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Tenth Series. Vol. XXXIII. No.1 Monday. July 2S. 1994

Sravana 3. 1916 (Saka)

LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

Eleventh Session (Tenth Lok Sabha)

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A Ayub Khan, Shri (Jhunjhunu)

Abdul Ghafoor, Shri (Gopalganj) Azam, Dr. Faiyazul (Bettiah)

Abedya Nath, Mahant (Gorakhpur) B

Acharia, Shri Basudeb (Bankura) Baitha, Shri Mahendra (Bagaha)

Adaikalaraj, Shri L. (Tiruchirapalli) Bala, Dr. Asim (Nabadwip)

Advani, Shri Lal K. (Gandhi Nagar) Balayogi, Shri G.M.C. (Amalapuram)

Agnihotri, Shri Rajendra (Jhansi) Ballyan, Shri N.K. (Muzaffarnagar)

Bandaru, Shri Dattatraya Ahamed, Shri E. (Manjeri) (Secunderabad) Ahirwar, Shri Anand (Sagar) Banerjee, Kumari Mamata (Calcutta South) Ahmed, Shri Kamaluddin (Hanamkonda) Bansal, Shri Pawan Kumar Alyar, Shri Mani Shankar (Mayiladuturai) (Chandigarh)

Ajit Singh, Shri (Baghpat) Barman, Shri Palas (Balurghat)

Akher Pasha, Shri B. (Vellore) Barman, Shri Uddhab (Barpeta)

Amar Pal Singh, Shri (Meerut) Basu, Shri Anil (Arambagh)

Anbarasu, Shri R. (Madras Central) Basu, Shri Chitta (Barasat)

Anjalose, Shri Thayil John (Alleppey) Berwa, Shri Ram Narain (Tonk)

I\nsari, Dr. Mumtaz (Kodarma) Bhadana, Stiri Avtar Singh (Faridabad)

Antulay, Shri A.A. (Kulaba) Bhagat. Shri Vishweshwar (Balaghat)

Arunachalam, Shri M. (Tenkasi) Bhakta, Shri Manoranjan (Andaman & Nicobar Islands) Asokaraj, Shri A. (Perambalur) Bhandari, Shrimati Oil Kumari (Sikkim) Athithan, Shri A. Dhanuskodi (Tiruchendur) Bhardwaj, Shri Paras Ram (Sarangarh) (i) Bhargava, Shri Girdhari Lal (Jaipur) Chaudhary, Shri Rudrasen (Bahraich)

Bhatia, Shri Raghunandan Lal (Amritsar) Chaudhri, .Shri Narain Singh (Hissar)

Bhattacharya, Shrimati Malini (Jadavpur) Chauhan, Shri Chetan P.S. (Amroha)

Bhoi, Dr. Krupasindhu (Sambalpur) Chauhan, Shri Shivraj Singh (Vidisha)

Bhonsle, Shri Prataprao B. (Satara) Chaure, Shri Bapu Hari (Dhule)

Bhonsle, Shri Tejsinghrao (Ramtek) Chavan, Shri Prithviraj D. (Karad)

Bhuria, Shri Dileep Singh (Jhabua) Chavda, Shri Harisinh (Banaskantha)

Birbal, Shri (Ganganagar) Chavda, Shri Ishwarbhai Khodabhai (Anand) Brar, Shri Jagmeet Singh (Faridkot) Chennithala, Shri Ramesh (Kottayam) Brohmo Chaudhury, Shri Satyendra Nath (Kokrajhar) Chidambaram, Shri P. (Sivaganga)

Buta Singh, Shri (Jalore) Chhatwal, Shri Sartaj Singh (Hoshangabad) C

Chhotey Lal, Shri (Mohanlalganj) Chacko, Shri P.C. (Trichur}

Chikhlia, Shrimati Bhavna (JunagartJ) Chakraborty, Prof. Susanta (Howrah)

Chaliha, Shri Kirip (Guwahati) Chinta Mohan, Dr. (Tirupathi)

Chandra Shekhar, Shri (Ballia) Choudhary, Shri Ram Tahal (Ranch i)

Chandrakar, Shri Chandulal (Durg) Choudhury, Shri Lokanath (Jagatsinghpur)

Chandrasekhar, Shrimati Maragatham Choudhury, Shri Saifuddin, (Katwa) (Sriperumbudur) Chowdary, Dr. K.V.R. (Rajahmundry) Charles, Shri A. (Trivandrum) Chowdhary, Shri Pankaj (Maharajganj) Chatte~ee, Shri Nirmal Kanti (Dumdum) Chowdhary, Shrimati Santosh (Phillaur) Chatte~ee, Shri Somnath (80lpur) Chowdhury, Shri A.B.A. Ghani Khan Chaudhary, Sqn. Ldr. Kamal (Hoshiarpur) (Maida)

(ii) o Dighe, Shri Sharad (Bombay No Central) Dadahoor, Shri Gurcharan Singh (Sangrur) Dikshit, Shri Shreesh Chandra (Varana

Dalbir Singh, Shri (Shadol) Diwan, Shri Pawan (Mahasamund)

Damor, Shri Somjibhai (Dohad) Dome, Dr. Ramchandr'a (Birbhum)

Das, Shri Anadi Charan (Jajpur) Orona, Shri Jagat Vir Singh (Kanpur

Dubey, Shrimati Saroj (Allahabad) Das, Shri Dwaraka Nath (Karimganj)

Dutt, Shri Sunil (Bombay North West Das, Shri Jitendra Nath (Jalpaiguri) F Das, Shri Ram Sunder (Hajipur) Faleiro, Shri Eduardo (Mormugao) Datta, Shri Amal (Diamond Harbour) Farook, Shri M.O.H. (Pondicherry) Deka, Shri Probin (Mangaldoi) Fatmi, Shri Mohammad Ali Ashrc Delkar, Shri Mohan S. (Darbhanga) (Dadra and Nagar Haveli) Femandes, Shri George (Muzaffarpur) Dennis, Shri N. (Nagercoil) Fernandes, Shri Oscar (Udupi) Deora, Shri Murfi (Bombay South) Fundkar, Shri Pandurang Pundlik (Akola Deshmukh, Shri Anantrao (Washim) G Deshmukh, Shri Ashok Anandrao (Parbhani) Gaikwad, Shri Udaysingrao (Kolhapur)

Gajapathi, Shri Gopi Nath (Berhampur Deshmukh, Shri Chandubhai (Bharuch)

Galib, Shri Gurcharan Singh (Ludhiana Dev. Shri Sontosh Mohan (Tripura West) Gamit, Shri Chhitubhai (Mandvi) Devarajan, Shri B. (Rasipuram) Gangwar, Dr. P.R. (Pilibhit) Devegowda, Shri H.D. (Hassan) Gangwar, Shri Santosh Kumar (Bareilly; Devi, Shrimali Bibhu Kumari (Tripura East) Gautam, Shrimati Sheela (Aligarh)

Oharmabhiksham, Shri (Nalgonda) Gavit, Shri Manikrao Hodlya (Nandarbar)

DOOmal, Prof. Prem (Hamirpur) Gehlot, Shri Ashok (Jodhpur) (iii) Ghangare, Shri Ramchandra Marotrao J (Wardha) Jaffer Sharief, Shri C.K. (Bangalore North) Ghatowar, Shri Paban Singh (Oibrugarh) Jai Prakash, Shri (Hardoi) Giri, Shri Sudhir (Contai) Jakhar, Shri Balram (Sikar) Girija Oevi, Shrimati (Maharaj Ganj) Janarthanan, Shri M.R. Kadambur Giriyappa, Shri C.P. Mudala (Chitradurga) (Tirunnelveli)

Gogoi, Shri Tarun (Kaliabor) Jangbir Singh, Shri (Bhiwani)

Gohil, Dr. Mahavirsinh Harisinhji Jangde, Shri Khelan Ram (Vilaspur) (Bhavnagar) Jaswant Singh, Shri (Chittorgarh) Gomango, Shri Girdhar (Koraput) Jatav, Shri Bare Lal (Morena) Gopalan, Shrimati Suseela (Chirayinkil) Jatiya, Shri Satynarayan (Ujjain) Gowda, Prof. K. Venkatagiri (Bangalore South) JaWali, Dr. B.G. (Gulbarga)

Gudadinni. Shri B.K. (Bijaipur) Jayamohan, Shri A. (Tirupattur)

Gundewar. Shri Vilasrao Nagnathrao Jeevarathinam, Shri R. (Arakonam) (Hingoli) Jena, Shri Srikanta (Cuttack) Gupta, Shri Indrajit (Midnapore) Jeswani. Dr. K.O. (Kheda) H Jha, Shri Bhogendra (Madhubani) Handique, Shri Bijoy Krishna (Jorhat) Jhikram, Shri Mohanlal (Mandla) Harchand Singh, Shri (Ropar) Joshi, Shri Anna (Pune) Hooda, Shri Bhupinder Singh (Rohtak) Joshi, Shri Oau Dayal (Kota) Hossain, Shri Syed Masudal (Murshidabad) K

Kahandole, Shri Z.M. (Malegam)

Imchalemba, Shri {Naga\and) Kairon, Shri Surinder Singh (Tam Taran)

Inder Jit, Shri (Oarjeeling) Kale, Shri Shankarrao O. (Kopergaon)

Islam, Shri Nurul (Ohubri) Kaliaperumal, Shri P.P. (Cuddalore)

(iv) Kalka Das, Shri (Karolbagh) Khan, Shri Ghulam Mohammad (Moradabad) Kamal, Shri Shyam Lal (Basti) Khan, Shri Sukhendu (Vishnupur) Kamal Nath, Shri (Chhindwara) Khanduri, Maj. Gen. (Retd.) Bhuwan Chandra (Garhwal) Kamat, Shri Gurudas (Bombay North- East) Khanna, Shri Rajesh (New Delhi)

Kamble, Shri Arvind Tulshiram Khanoria, Major pp. (Kangra) (Osmanabad) Khursheed, Shri Salman (Farrukhabad) Kamson, Prof. M. (Outer Manipur) Koli, Shri Ganga Ram (Bayana) Kanaujia, Dr. G.L. (Kheri) Konathala, Shri Rama Krishna (Anakapalli) Kanithi, Dr. Viswanatham (Srikakulam) Kori, Shri Gaya Prasad (Jalaun)

Kanodia, Shri Mahesh (Paten) Kotla, Shri Jaya Surya Prakash Reddy (Kumool) Kanshi Ram, Shri (Etawah) Krishna Kumar, Shri S. (Quilon) Kapse, Shri Ram (Thane) Krishnaswamy, Shri M. (Vandavasi) Karreddula, Shrimati Kamala Kumari (Bhadrachalam) Krishnendra Kaur (Deepa), Shrimati (Bharatpur) Kashwan, Shri Ram Singh (Churu) Kshirsagar, Shrimati Kesharbai Sonaji (Beed) Kasu, Shri Venkata Krishna Reddy (Narasaraopeta) Kudumula, Kumari Padamasree (Nellore)

Katheria, Shri Prabhu Dayal () Kuli, Shri Balin (Lakhimpur)

Katiyar, Shri Vinay (Faizabad) Kumar, Shri Nitish (Barh)

Kaul, Shrimati Sheila (Rae Bareli) Kumar, Shri V. Dhananjaya (Mangalore)

Kumaramangalam, Shri Rangarajan Kesri Lal, Shri (Ghatampur) (Salem)

Kewal Singh, Shri (Bhatinda) Kumarasamy, Shri P. (Paleni)

Khan, Shri Aslam Sher (Betul) Kunjee Lal, Shri (Sawai Madhopur)

(v) ppuswamy, Shri C.K. (Coimbatore) Mane, Shri Rajaram Shankarrao (Ichalkaranji) rein, Prof. P.J. (Mavelikara) Manjay Lal, Shri (Samastipur) Ismaria, Dr. Ramkrishna (Damoh) Manphool Singh, Shri (Bikaner) L Marandi, Shri Krishna (Singhbhum) lkshmanan, Prof. Savithri 'ukundapur~m) Marandi, Shri Simon (Rajmahal) djan Basha, Shri S.M. (Guntur) Maroaniang, Shri Peter G. (Shillong) Jdha, Shri Guman Mal (Pali) Masood, Shri Rasheed (Saharanpur) )vely Anand, Shrimati (Vaishali) Mathew, Shri Pala K.M. (Idukki) M Mathur, Shri Shiv Charan (Bhilwara) lade Gowda, Shri G. (Mandya) Maurya, Shri Anand Ratna (Chandauli) 1adhukar, Shri Kamla Mishra (Motihari) Meena, Shri Sheru Lal (Salumbar) "ahajan, Shrimati Sumitra (Indore) Meghe, Shri Datta (Nagpur) Aahato, Shri Sir Singh (Purulia)

l1ahendra Kumari, Shrimati (Alwar) Mehta, Shri Bhubaneshwar Prasad (Hazaribagh) .1ahto, Shri Rajkishore (Girdih) Mirdha, Shri Nathu Ram (Nagaur) li1ahto, Shri Shailendra (Jamshedpur) Mirdha, Shri Ram Niwas (Barmer) lAalik, Shri Dharampal Singh (Sonepat) Mishra, Shri Ram Nagina (Padrauna) Malik, Shri Puma Chandra (Durgapur) Misra, Shri Janardan (Sitapur) Mallikarjun, Shri (Mahbubnagar) Misra, Shri Satyagopal (Tamluk) Mallikarjunaiah, Shri S. (Tumkur)

Misra, Shri Shyam Bihari (Bilhaur) Mallu, Dr. R. (Nagar Kumool)

Mandai, Shri Srahmanand (Monghyr) Mohan Singh, Shri (Ferozepur)

Mandai, Shri San at Kumar (Joynagar) Mollah, Shri Hannan (Uluberia)

Mandai, Shri Suraj (Godda) Mujahid, Shri B.M. (Dharwad South)

(vi) Mukherjee. Shrlmati Geeta (Panskura) Netam, Shri Arvind (Kanker)

Mukherjee. Shri Pramothes (Berhampore) Nikam, Shri Govindrao (Ratnagiri)

Mukherjee. Shri Subrata (Raiganj) Nyamagouda, Shri S.B. (Bagalkot)

Mukhopadyay. Shri Ajoy (Krishnagar) o

Munda, Shri Govinda Chandra (Keonjhar) Odeyar, Shri Channaiah (Davangere)

Munda, Shri Kariya (Khunti) Oraon, Shri Lalit (Lohardaga)

Muniyappa, Shri K.H. (Kolar) Owaisi, Shri Sultan Salahuddin (Hyderabad) Muralee Dharan, Shri K. (Calicut) P Murmu. Shri Rup Chand (Jhargram) Padma, Dr. (Shrimati) (Nagapattinam) Murthy, Shri M.V. Chandrashekhara Pal, Dr. Debi Prosad (Calcutta North (Kanakapura) West) Murthy, Shri M.V.V.S. (Visakhapatnam) Pal, Shri Rupchand (Hooghly)

Murugesan, Dr. N. (Karur) Palacholla, Shri V.R. Naidu (Khammam)

Muttemwar, Shri Vilas (Chimur) Pandeya, Dr. Laxminarayan (Mandsaur)

N Pandian, Shri D. (Madras North)

Naik, Shri A. Venkatesh (Raichur) Panigrahi, Shri Sriballav (Deogarh)

Naik, Shri G. Devaraya (Kar:ara) Panja, Shri Ajit (Calcutta North-East)

Naik, Shri Ram (Bombay North) Panwar, Shri Harpal (Kairana)

Naikar, Shri D.K. (Dharwad North) Passi. Shri Balrai (Nainital)

Nandi, Shri Yellaiah (Siddipet) Paswan, Shri Chhedi (Sasaram)

Narayanan, Shri P.G. (Gobichettipalayam) Paswan, Shri Ram Vilas (Rosera)

Nawale, Shri Vidura Vithoba (Khed) Paswan, Shri Sukdeo (Araria)

Nayak, Shri Mrutyunjaya (Phulbani) Patel, Dr. Amrit Lal Kalidas (Mehsana)

Nayak. Shri Subash Chandra (Kalahandi) Patel, Shri Bheam Singh (Rewa) (vii) Patel, Shri Brlshin (Slwan) Pawar, Dr. Vasant NIwruItl (Nasik)

Patel, SI"'1 Chandresh (Jamnagiir) -Peruman, Dr. P. VaHai (Chldambaram)

Patel, Shri Haribhai (Porbandar) Pilot, Shri Rajesh (Dasua)

Patel, Shri Harilal Nanji (Kutch) Poosapati, Shri Anandgajapati Raju (Bobbili) Patel, Shri Praful (Bhandara) Potdukhe, Shri Shantaram (Chandrapur)

Patel, Shri Ram Pujan (Phulpur) Prabhu, Shri R. (Nilgiris)

Patel, Shri Shravan Kumar (Jabalpur) Prabhu Zantye, Shri Harish Narayan (Panaji) Patel, Shri Somabhai (Surendranagar) Pradhani, Shri K. (Nowrangpur) Patel, Shri Uttambhai Harjlbhai (Bulsal) Prakash, Shri Shashi (Chail) Pathak, Shri Harin (Ahmedabad) Pramanik, Prof. R.R. (Mathurapur) Pathak, Shri Surendra Pal (Shahabad) Prasad, Shri Hari Kewal (Salempur) Patidar, Shri Rameshwar (Khargone) Prasad, Shri V. Sreenivasa (Chamarajanagar) Patil, Shri Anwari Basavaraj (Koppal)

Prem, Shri B.L. Sharma (East Delhi) Patil, Shri Prakash V. (Sangli)

Premi, Shri Mangal Ram (Bijnor) Patil, Prof. (Shrimati) Pratibha Devisingh (Amravati) Purkayashta, Shri Kabindra (Silchar)

Patil, Shri Shivraj V. (Latur) R

Patil, Shrimati Surya Kanta (Nanded) Rahi, Shri Ram Lal (Misrikh)

Patil, Shri Uttamrao Deorao (Yavatmal) Rai, Shri Kalp Nath (Ghosi)

Patil, Shri Vijay Naval (Erandol) Rai, Shri Lall Babu (Chhapra)

Patnaik, Shri Sivaji (Bhubaneswar) Rai, Shri M. Ramanna (Kasaragod)

Patra, Dr. Kartikeswar (Balasore) Rai, Shri Nawal Kishore (Sltamaml)

Pattanayak, Shri Sarat (Bolangir) Rai, Shri Ram Nihor (Robertsganj) (viii) Raj Narain, Shri (Basgaon) Rao, Shrl D. Venkateswara (Bapatla)

Rajaravivanna, Shri B. (Pollachi) Rao, Shri J. Chokka (Karim nagar)

Raje, Shrimati Vasundhara (Jhalawar) Rao, Shri P.V. Narasimha (Nandyal)

Rajendra Kumar, Shri S.S.R. Rao Ram Singh, Col. (Mahindergarh) (Chengalpattu) Rao, Shri V. Krishna (Chikballapur) Rajesh Kumar, Shri (Gaya) Rath, Shri Rama Chandra (Aska) Rajeshwaran, Dr. V. (Ramnathapuram) Rathva, Shri N.J. (Chhota Udaipur) Rajeswari, Shrimati Basava (Bellary) Rawal, Dr. Lal Bahadur (Hathras)

Raju, Shri Bh. Vijayakumar (Narsapur) Rawale, Shri Mohan (Bombay-South Central) Rajulu, Dr. R.K.G. (Sivakasi) Rawat, Shri Bhagwan Shankar (Agra) Ram, Shri Prem Chand (Nawada) Rawat, Shri Prabhu lJil (Banswara) Ram Awadh, Shri (Akbarpur) Rawat, Prof. Rasa Singh (Ajmer) Ram Babu, Shri A.G.S. (Madurai) Ray, Shri Rabi (Kendrapada) Ram Badan, Shri (Lalganj) Ray, Dr. Sudhir (Burdwan) Ram Singh, Shri (Haridwar) Raychaudhuri, Shri Sudarsan (Serampore) Ramaiah, Shri Bolla Bulli (Eluru) Reddaiah Yadav, Shri K.P. (Machilipatnam) Ramamurthy, Shri K. (Krishnagiri)

Reddy, Shri A. Indrakaran (Adilabad) Ramasamy, Shri R. Naidu (Periyakulam)

Reddy, Shri A. Venkata (Anantapur) Ramchandran, Shri Mullappally (Connanore) Reddy, Shri B.N. (Miryalguda)

Ramdew Ram, Shri (Palamau) Reddy, Shri G. Ganga (Nizamabad)

Ramsagar. Shri (Barabanki) Reddy. Shri M. Baga (Medak)

Rana, Shri Kashiram (Surat) Reddy. Shri M.G. (Chittoor) (ix) !ddy, Shri Magunta Subbaramll Save, Shri Moreshwar (Anmgabad) .ngole) " Sawant, Shri Sudhir (Rajapur) ddy, Shri R. Surender (Warangal) Sayeed, Shri P.M. (Lakshadweep) ddy, Shri Y.S. Rajasekhar (Cuddapah)

Scindia, Shri Madhavrao (Gwalior) ,ngpi, Dr. Jayanta (Autonomous District)

,shan Lal, Shri (Khur;a) ScinCiia, Shrimati Vijayaraje (Guna)

'y, Shri Haradhan (Asansol) Selja, Kumari (Sirsa)

,ypradhan, Shri Arnar (Cooch Behar) Sethi, Shri Ar;un Chatan (Bhadrak)

S Shah, Shri Manabendra (Tehri Garhwal)

Idol, SAri Dharmanna Mondayya Shakya, Dr. Mahadeepak Singh (Etah) olapur)

Shankaranand, Shri B. (Chikkodi) Ihi, Shrimati Krishna (Begusarai)

Ii, Shri A. Prathap (Rajampet) Sharma, Shri Chiranji Lal (Kamal) likia, Shri Muhi Ram (Nowgong) Sharma, Shri Jeewan (Almora) lit, Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman (Ponnani) Sharma, Shri Rajendra Kumar (Rampur)

Ijjan Kumar, Shri (Outer Delhi) Sharma, Capt. Satish Kumar (Amethi)

3.kshiji, Dr. (Mathura) Sharma, Shri V.N. (Hamirpur)

3.team, Shri Mohammad Yunus (Katihar) Shastri, Acharya Vishwanath Das (Sultanpur) 3.nghani, Shri Dileep Bhai (Amreli)

Shastri, Shri Rajnath Sonkar (Saidpur) angma, Shri Pumo A. (Tura) anipalli, Shri Gangadhara (Hindupur) Shastri, Shri Vishwanath (Gazipur) araswati, Shri Yoganand (Bhind) Shelke, Shri Maruti Deoram (Ahmednagar) arode, Dr. Gunvant Rambhau (Jalgaon) Shingda, Shri D.B. (Oahanu) atrucharla, Shri Vijayarama Raju >arvathipuram) Shivappa, Shri K.G. (Shimoga) (x) Shukla, Shri Astbhuja Prasad (Khalidabad) Singh, Shri Rampal (Domariaganj) ,

Shukla, Shri Vidyacharan (Raipur) Singh, Shri S.B. (Rajnandgaon)

Siddhartha, Shrimati O.K. Tharadevi Singh, Shri Satya Deo (Balrampur) (Chikmagalur) Singh, Shri Surya Narayan (Balia) Sidnal, Shri S.B. (Belgaum) Singh, Shri Uday Pratap (Mainpuri) Silvera, Dr. C. (Mizoram) Singh, Shri Vishwanath Pratap (Fatehpur)

Singh, Shri Abhay Pratap (Pratapgarh) Singh Deo, Shri K.P. (Dhenkanal)

Singh, Shri A~un (Satna) Singla, Shri Sant Ram (Patiala)

Singh, Shri Brijbhushan Sharan (Gonda) Sivaraman, Shri S. (0ttapaIam)

Singh, Dr. Chattrapal (Bulandshahr) Sodi, Shri Manku Ram (&star)

Singh, Shri Devi Bux (Unnao) Solanki, Shri Surajbhanu (Dhar)

Singh, Shri Hari Kishore (Sheohar) Soren, Shri Shibu (Dumka)

Singh, Shri Khelsai (Sarguja) Soundaram, Dr. (Shrimati) K.S. (Tiruchengode ) Singh, Shri Lakshman (Rajgarh) Sreenivasan, Shri C. (Dindigul)

Singh, Shri Mohan (Deoria) Sridharan, Dr. Rajagopalan (Madras South) Singh. Shri Motilal (Sidhi) Subbarao, Shri Thota (Kakinada) Singh, Shri Pratap (Banka) Sukh Ram, Shri (Mandi) Singh, Kumari Pushpa Devi (Raigarh) Sukhbuns Kaur, Shrimati (Gurdaspur) Singh, Shri Rajveer (Aonla) Suhanpuri, Shri Krishan Dutt (Shimla) Singh, Shri Ram Prasad (Bikramganj) Sundararaj, Shri N. (Pudukkottai) Singh, Shri Ramashray Prasad () Sur, Shri Monoranjan (Basirhat)

Singh, Shri Ramnaresh (Aurangabad) Suresh, Shri Kodikkunnil (Adoor) (xi) Swami, Shri Chinmayanand (Badaun) TopiwaJa, Shrimatl Diplka H. (Baroda)

Swami, Shri Sureshanand (Jalesar) Topno, Kumari Frida (Sundargarh)

Swamy, Shri G. Venkat (Pedapalli) Tripathi, Shri Lakshmi Narain Mani (Kaiserganj) Syed Shahabuddin, Shri (Kishanganj) Tripathi, Shri Prakash Narain (Banda) T Tripathy, Shri Braja Kishore (Puri) Tandel, Shri D.J. (Daman & Diu) Trivedi, Shri Arvind (Sabrarkantha) Tara Singh, Shri (Kurukshetra) Tytler, Shri Jagdish (Delhi Sadar)

Tej Narayan Singh, Shri (Buxar) U

Thakore, Shri Gabhaji Mangaji Uma Bharti, Kumari (Khajuraho) (Kapadwanj) Umbrey, Shri Laeta (Arunachal East) Thakur, Shri Mahendra Kumar Singh (Khandwa) Ummareddy Venkateswartu, Prof. (Tenali)

Thangka Balu, Shri K.V. (Dharmapuri) Umrao Singh, Shri (Jalandhar)

Thite, Shri Bapusahib (Baramati) Unnikrishnan, Shri K.P. (Badagara)

Thomas, Prof. K.V. (Emakulam) Upadhyay, Shri Swarup (Tejpur)

Thomas, Shri P.C. (Muvattupuzha) Urs, Shrimati Chandra Prabha (Mysore)

Thorat, Shri Sandipan Bhagwan V (Pandharpur) Vadde, Shri SQbhanadreeswara Rao (Vijayawada) Thungon, Shri P.K. (Anonachal West)

Vaghela, Shri Shankersinh (Godhra) Tindivanam, Shri K. Ramamurthee (Tindivanam) Vajpayee, Shri Atal Bihari (Lucknow)

Tiriya, Kumari Shushila (Mayurbhanj) Vandayar, Shri K. T. (Thanjavur)

Tirkey, Shri Pius (Alipurduars) Varma, Shri Ratilal (Dhanduka)

Tomar, Dr. Ramesh Chand (Hapur) Varma, Shri Sushil Chandra (Bhopal)

Topdar, Shri Tarit Baran (Barrackpore) Veerappa, Shri Ramchandra (S\dar)

Tope, Shri Ankushrao Raosaheb (Jalna) Vekaria, Shri Shivlal Nagjibhal (Rajkot) (xii) Verma, Shri Bhawani Lal (Janjgir) Yadav. Shri Chotey Singh (Kannauj)

Verma, Shri Phool Chand (Shajapur) Yadav, Shri Chun Chun Prasad (Bhagalpur) Verma, Prof. Rita (Dhanbad) Yadav, Shri Devendra Prasad Verma, Shri Shiv Sharan (Machhlishahar) (Jhanjharpur)

Verma, Shri Upendra Nath (Chatra) Yadav, Shri Ram Kripal (Patna)

Verma, Kumari Vimla (Seoni) Yadav, Shri Ram Lakhan Singh (Arrah)

Vijayaraghavan, Shri V.S. (Palghat) Yadav. Shri Ram Saran (K~agaria)

Virendra Singh, Shri (Mirzapur) Yadav. Dr. S.P. (Sambhal)

Vyas, Dr. Girija (Udaipur) Yadav, Shri Satya Pal Singh (Shahjahanpur) W Yadav. Shri Sharad (Madhepura) Wasnik, Shri Mukul (Buldana) Yadav. Shri Surya Narayan (Saharasa) Williams, Maj. Gen. R.G. (Nominated Yadav. Shri Vijoy Kumar (Nalanda) Anglo-Indian) Yumnam. Shri Yaima Singh (Inner Y tAanipur) Yadav, Shri Arjun Singh (Jaunpur) z

Yadav, Shri Chandra Jeet (Azamgarh) Zainal Abedin, Shri ~angipur)

(xiii) LOK SABHA

The Spea/cBr

Shrl Shivraj V. Patil The Deputy Speaker

Shri S. MaIIikarjunaiah

Panel 01 Chainnen

Shri Sharad Dighe

Shri Peter G. Marbaniang

Shri Nitish Kumar

Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee

Shri Tara Singh

Shrimati Malini Bhattacharya

Shri Ram Naik

Shri P.C. Chacko

Shrimati Santosh Chowdhary

Prof. Rita Verma

Secretary-General

Dr. R.C. Bhardwaj

(xv) GOVERNMENT OF INDIA

Members of the Cabinet

Prime Minister and also Incharge of the Shri P.V. Narasimha Rao MinisterieslDepartments of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pensions, Science and Technology, Ocean Development, Electronics, Atomic Energy, Space, Rural Developme"t, Non-Conventional Energy Sources and Law, Justice & Company Affairs and the additional charge of the Ministry of Industry and other subjects not allocated to any other Cabinet Minister or Minister of State (Independent Charge)

Minister of Civil Supplies, Consumer Shri A.K. Antony Affairs & Public Distribution

Minister of Human Resource Development Shri Arjun Singh

Minister of Health and Family Welfare Shri. B. Shankaranand

Minister of Agriculture Shri Balram Jakhar

Minister of Railways Shri C.K. Jaffer Sharief

Minister of External Affairs Shri Dinesh Singh

Minister of Civil Aviation and Tourism Shri Ghulam Nabi Azad

Minister of Finance Shri Manmohan Singh

Minister of Power Shri N.K.P. Salve

Minister of Commerce Shri Pranab Mukherjee

Minister of Home Affairs Shri S.B. Chavan

Minister of Urban Development Shrimati Sheila Kaul

Minister of Welfare Shri Sitaram Kesri

(xvii) Minister of Water Resources and Minister Shri Vidyacharan Shukla of Partiamentary Affairs

Minister of Chemicals and Fertilizers Shri Ram Lakhan Singh Yadav

Ministers of State (Independent'Charge)

Minister of State of the Ministry of Coal Shri Ajit Panja

Minister of State of the Ministry of Mines Shri Balram Singh Yadav

Minister of State of the Ministry of Shri G. Venkat Swamy Textiles

Minister of State of the Ministry of Shri Giridhar Gomango Planning and Programme Implementation

Minister of State of the Ministry of Shri Jagdish Tytler Surface Transport

Minister of State of the Ministry of Shri K.P. Singh Deo Information and Broadcasting

Minister of State of the Ministry of Food Shri Kalp Nath Rai

Minister of State of the Ministry of Shri Kamal Nath Environment and Forests

Minister of State of the Ministry of Labour Shri P .A. Sangma

Minister of State of the Ministry of Capt. Satish Kumar Sharma Petroleum and Natural Gas

Minister of State of the Ministry of Steel Shri Santosh Mohan Dev

Minister of State of the Ministry of Shri Sukh Ram Communications

Minister of State of the Ministry of Food Shri Tarun Gogo; Processing Industries

Ministers of State

Minister of State in the Ministry of Shri Arvind Netam Agriculture

(xviii) Minister of State in the Ministry of Human Shrimati Basva Rajeswari Resource Development (Department of Women and Child Development)

Minister of State in t~inister's Shri Bhuvnesh Chaturvedi OffICe and Minister .T III in the Department ofE'. ic: ~y and Department of. . ., ,~d .iJAi;:;ister of State in the M' . try of· Science and Technology

Minister of State in the Ministry of Shri Eduardo Faleiro Chemicals and Fertilizers and Minister of State in the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs and Minister of State in the Department of Electronics and Department of Ocean Development

Minister of State in the Ministry of Law, Shri H.R. Bhardwaj Justice and Company Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Welfare Shri K.V. Thangka Balu

Minister of State in the Ministry of Civil Shri Kamaluddin Ahmed Supplies, Consumer Affairs and Public Distribution and Minister of Slate in the Ministry of Commerce

Minister of State in the Ministry of Industry Shrimati Krishna Sahi (Department of Industrial Development and Department of Heavy Industry)

Minister of State in the Ministry of Industry Shri M. Arunachalam (Department of Small Scale Industries and Agro and Rural Industries)

Minister of State in the Ministry of Shri M.V. Chandrashekhara Murthy Finance

Minister of State in the Ministry ot Defence Shri Mallika~un and Minister of State in the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Shrimati Margaret Alva Personnel, Public Grievances and Pensions and Minister of State in the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs (xix) Minister of State in the Ministry of Human Shri Mukul Wasnik Resource Development (Department of Youth Affairs and Sports) and Minister of State in the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Urban Shri PKlfglgon Development and Minister of State in the Ministry of Water Resources

Minister of State in the Ministry of Home Shri P.M. Sayeeu Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Power Shri P.V. Rangayya Naidu

Minister of State in the Ministry of Extemal Shri R.l. Bhatia Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Home Shri Rajesh Pilot Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Rural Col. Rao Ram Singh Development (Department of Wasteland Development)

Minister of State in the Ministry of Rural Shri Rameshwar Thakur Development (Department of Rural Development) and Minister of State in the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Non- Shri S. Krishna Kumar Conventional Energy Sources and Minister of State in the Ministry of Agriculture

Ministry of State in the Ministry of Extemal Shri Salman Khursheed Affairs

Minister of State in the Ministry of Civil Shrimati Sukhbuns Kaur Aviation and Tourism (Department of Tourism)

Minister of State in the Ministry of Rural Shri Ultambhai Hariibhai Patel Development (Department of Rural Development)

Minister of State in the Ministry of Health Dr. C. Silvera and Family Welfare

(xx) Deputy Ministers

Deputy Minister in the Ministry of Health Shri Paban Singh Ghatowar and Family Welfare

Deputy Minister in the Ministry of Home Shri Ram Lal Rahi Affairs

Deputy Minister in the Ministry of Human Kumari Selja Resource Development (Department of Education and Department of Culture)

(xxi) CONTENTS

[Tenth Series, Vol. XXXIII, Eleventh Session, 199411915-1916 (SakaJ)

No.1, Monday, July 25, 1994lSravana 3, 1916 (SakaJ

National Anthem - Played Obituary References 1-16 Oral Answer to Question:

*Starred Question No.: 1 16--33 Written Answers to Questions:

*Starred Questions Nos.: 2 to 20 33-88 Unstarred Questions Nos.: 1 to 73, 75 to 173, and 175 to 223 89-521 Re: Adjournment Motion 521-537 Papers Laid on the Table 537-543 Matters Under Rule 377 543-546, 547-549 (i) Need to set up a Tribal Unit in the All India Radio Station, Jeypore to broadcast programme in Desiya language Shri K Pradhani 543 (ii) Need to construct a bye-pass on National Highway at Bareilly in Uttar Pradesh Shri Santosh Kumar Gangwar 545 (iii) Need to construct a railway overbridge across Sarha Thala railway line in Chhapra. Bihar Shri Lall Babu Rai 545 (iv) Need to allot more LPG distributorships in Jalpaiguri. West Bengal Shri Jitendra Nath Das 546

(v) Need to extend Central Government Health Scheme to Chandigarh Union Territory for the benefit of the retired as well as working Central Government employees Shri Pawan Kumar Bansal 547

"The sign + rnar1

CoLUMNS

(vi) Need to introduce a new train service between Bijnore (UP) and Delhi Shri Mangal Ram Premi 548 Announcement Re: Adjournment Motion on Alarming 549, Situation in Assam 564-565

Pre-natal Diagnostic TechniqL.8S (Regulation and 549-563, Prevention of Misuse) Bill 565-610

As Reported by Joint Committee Motion to consider Shri Paban Singh Ghatowar 549

Dr. R. Mallu 552

Shri Syed Shahabuddin 553

Dr. Laxminarayan Pandeya 556

Dr, Vasant Niwrutti Pawar 560

Shrimati Malini Bhattacharya 565

Shri D. Venkateswara Rao 575

Dr. K.D. Jeswani 576

Dr. Kartikeswar Patra 582

Shrimati Girija Devi 585

Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh 588

Shri Dau Dayal Joshi 592

Dr. Girija Vyas 594

Shrimati Sumitra Mahajan 600

Shri George Fernandes 606

Adjournment Motion

Alarming Situation in Assam 61~736

Shri Chandra Jeet Yadav 610 Shri Inder Jit 614

Shri Jaswant Singh 625

Shri Syed Shahabuddin 633

Shri Uddhab Barman 657 (ii~

CoLUMNS Shri !

Kumari Mamata Banerjee 684

Shri Sultan Salahuddin ONaisi 689 Shrimati Bibhu Kumari Devi 690

Shri E. Ahamed 695

Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev 698

Shri Sobhanadreeswara Rao Vadde 707

Shri Balin Kuli 709

Shri Shibu Soren 712

Shri Mohan Singh (Deoria) 715

Shri Brahmanand Mandai 717

Shri Pramothes Mukherjee 719

Shri Laeta Umbrey 720

Shri Rajesh Pilot 722

Statement by Minister 736-738

Wage Revision of Port and Dock Workers

Shri Jagdish Tytler 736

Business Advisory Committee 738

E:orty-first Report - Presented LOK SABHA DEBATES

Vol. XXXIII, First day of the Eleventh Session of the Tenth Lok Sabha No.1

LOK SABHA Kim-II-Sung was not only a father figure I to his people but his charismatic personality was acknowledged by all. Monday, July 25, 1994/ With his passing away, ends an era. He SaNana 3, 1916 (Saka) was, till his death, the longest serving leader and was a legend in his life time.

Relations between India and The Lok Sabha met at Democratic People's Republic of Korea Eleven of the Clock have always remained cordial and friendly. We also recall President Kim-II-Sung's significant role within the Non-aligned Movement. As recently as April, 1992, [MR. SPEAKER in the Chait1 President Shankar Dayal Sharma, as Vice President of India, had visited the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and had the occasion to participate in the NATIONAL ANTHEM 80th birthday celebrations of President Kim-II-Sung.

The National Anthem was played. This House wishes to convey its heartfelt sympathy to the people and Government of Democratic People's Republic of Korea and to the members 11.02 hrs. of the family of the late President.

[English] I have also to inform the House with profound sorrow of the passing OBITUARY REFERENCES away of three of our former colleagues, namely Sarvashri Anant Prasad Dhusia, MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Members, Tula Ram and Kumari Abha Maili. we are going to make obituary references to our former colleagues who are no Shri Anant Prasad Dhusia was a more. But, before I make the obituary member of Fifth lok Sabha during references to them, we would like to refer 1971-77. He represented Basti to the sad demise of President Kim-II- Parliamentary Constituency of Uttar Sung of North Korea. This House wishes Pradesh. An educationist by profession, to place on record its profound sorrow Shti Dhusia was a devoted social worker and grief at the paSsing away of President and worked for the upliftment of the Kim-II-Sung of the Democratic People's depressed classes of the society. He Republic of Korea. President Kim-II-Sung also had special interest in the fields of will be long remembered for his valiant education, cottage industries and fisheries. services to his country and as a great He took keen interest in the proceedings revolutionary and nationalist. President of the House. 3 Obituary References JULY 25, 1994 Obituary References 4 Shri Anant Prasad Dhusia passed holding the portfolios of Home, Refugee away on 27 June, 1994 at Basti at the and Social Welfare dl:lring age of 81 years. 1962-69.

Shri Tula Ram was a Member of Kumari Abha Maiti was a freedom Second to Fifth Lok Sabha. He fighter and she actively participated in represented Etawah Parliamentary the 'Quit India' Movement in 1942. Constituency of Uttar Pradesh from 1957 to 1962 and Ghatampur Parliamentary A social and political worker, she Constituency from 1967-1977. worked for the upliftment of weaker sections of the society and for the benefit Earlier, he was a Member of Uttar of rural people. Pradesh Legislative Assembly during 1952-57. A journalist by profession, Kumari Abha Maiti was the editor of 'Satyagraha An agriculturist and teacher by PatOka' and was the Chairperson of profession, Shri Tula Ram was a member Editorial Board of 'Juger Oak'. A widely of Lucknow University Court. travelled person, she had attended the 12th Congress of the Federation of A devoted social and political Professional Women, in Canada, in 1971. worker, he served as the General Secretary of District Depressed Classes As an active Parliamentarian, she League. He also tnok special interest in made significant contributions to the solving the problems of rural people and proceedings of the House. welfare of the weaker sections of the society. Kumari Abha Maiti passed away on 2 July, 1994 at Kuala Lumpur at the age An active parliamentarian, he also of 69 years. served as a Member of Estimates Committee. We deeply mourn the lOss of these friends and I am sure the House would Shri Tula Ram passed away on join me in conveying our condolences to 27th June, 1994 at Etawah at the age the bereaved families. of 80 years. THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI P.V. Kumari Abha Maiti was a Member NARASIMHA RAO): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I of Sixth Lok Sabha during 1977-79 and rise to pay homage to one 01 the great was Union Minister of State in the leaders of our time, President Kim-II- Ministry of Industry. She represented Sung of the Democratic People's Republic Panskura Pariiamentary Constituency of of Korea. He guided the destiny of his West Bengal. She was also a Member nation for over four decades. first as a of Rajya Sabha during 1960-62. revolutionary and 88 soldier; and after the fonnation of DPRK. as Its Premier Eariier, she was a Member of West and later as President. So ~. was Bengal Legislative Assembly for two lenns his ldentlficatIon with his country that M during 1952-57 and 1962-89. She served came to peI80nIIy It. Hie puling away the State of West Bengal as 8 Minister INveI I void that wtI be dIfftcuII to ftI. 5 Obituary References SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Obituary References 6

President Kim-II-Sung was a strong was also a Member of the Estimates votary of the Non-Aligned Movement. Committee. He did a great deal of work India's relations with DPRK was very in rural areas and in agriculture. He good during his time. The people of India worked tirelessly for the welfare of the share the grief of the people of the weaker sections of society. Democratic People's Republic of Korea. I also wish to place on record the Sir, I would like to place on record condolence of this House on the passing our deep condolences to the families of away of this great leader. these Members and, of course, to the friendly people of DPRK on this occasion. We continue to look forward to strengthening our friendly relations with {Translation] DPRK. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE Three former Members of this (Lucknow): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I and my House passed away in the period after party share the sorrow and grief the last Session. Kumari Abha Maiti was expressed by your goodself and by the a veteran leader. She was one of our hon. Prime Minister on the sad demise important colleagues in the Congress of the President of North Korea, Shri party in those days. She was a freedom Kim-"-Sung and Kumari Abha Maiti, Shri fighter who took an active part in the Quit Tula Ram and Shri Anant Prasad Dhusia India Movement. She was also a and place our deep condolences on prominent journalist whose writing showed record. her jealous concern for women and for the rural poor. As a Minister in West have had the opportunity of Bengal and later as Minister of State for working with Kumari Abha Malti. Her Industry here, she displayed remarkable contribution within the House and outside administrative ability and leadership was very Significant. She succeeded in qualities. She was also a Member of earning a special place for herself in the Rajya Sabha for two years. social life. We all are profoundly grieved on her sad demise.

She maintained a life-long Shri Tula Ram and Anant Prasad commitment to the uplift of the weaker also were Members of 5th Lok Sabha. sections of society. Their'S was a remarkable contribution to the House. I place deep condolences on Shri Anant Prasad Dhusia was a behalf of myself and my party on record Member from Basti elected in 1971. He on their demise. took keen interest in social work particular1y in promoting education among Shri Kim-:I-Sung of North Korea the scheduled castes and scheduled was a great leader, a crusader and a tribes. He took special interest in helping nation-builder. There were dissenting the rural poor in setting up cottage differences with his ideology and his way industries In their homes to be able to of working but under his leadership, make a living in the village itself. North Korea successfully overcame great challenges and moved ahead on the path Shri Tula Ram was a Member tor of progress after crossing all the obstacles four successive terms from 1957. He in its way. 7 Obituary References JULY 25, 1994 Obituary References 8 I did not get an opportunity to see [English] him personally. I wanted to visit North Korea, via South Korea but he was SHRI SOMNATH CHATIERJEE averse to my seeing him after visiting (80Ipur): Mr. Speaker Sir, today we South Korea. He wanted me to visit grieve the passing away of an outstanding North Korea directly. According to him it world leader and statesman' President was not proper to visit North Korea via Kim-II-Sung of the Democratic People's South Korea. This also gives an insight . Republic of Korea. President Kim-It-Sung into his personality and his style of had fought for the liberation of his country functioning. Those who know him say and his people from an early age and that he was a different personality from he had put up a relentless battle against within than what he looked outwardly. He the imperialist forces, whether it be the was a very sensitive, sweet and Japanese Imperialism or the US affectionate personality. imperialism. And he was able to free his country from the stranglehold of those We all share this national mouming countries. of North Korea and I reiterate my solidarity with what you and hon. Prime Minister Sir, his contribution towards the said in this connection. practical application of Marxism-Leninism, is for all to see. He realised that the SHRI SHARAD YADAV principles of Marxism-Leninism based on (Madhepura): Mr. Speaker Sir, I and my a scientific concept, had to be applied party join you, hon. Prime Minister and in the concrete situation obtaining in his hon. Atalji in expressing our deep country and there lies his success. That condolences on the demise of great is why, we find that North Korea is a leader of North Korea Shri Kim-Ii-Sung. country where there is no unemployment, I agree that North Korea has, today, no poverty and no hunger. He made strongly emerged as a nation and the Significant contribution to the improvement leadership Shri Sung has provided in of the conditions of the people of his unifying this nation emotionally and in its country. And now Sir, we see in stark development is unique. contrast, what is happening to some of the former socialist countries. He had also been fighting relentlessly for the I, on behalf of myself and my party unifICation of the two Koreas. A life long place on record our deep condolences fighter against imperialism, believer in the to the bereaved family of a leader whose scientific basis of Marxism-Leninism, an remarkable life, full of a crusader's zeal, exponent and strong supporter of the was dedicated to the nation building. Non-Aligned Movement and a father figure so far as the socialist world is I, too, have had an opportunity of concemed, his passing away is a great working with Kumari Abha Maiti. She was blow not only to the friendly people of a Minister here in 1977. All these three the country of North Korea but to all who Members Contributed actively in the are striving for the establishment of debates and discussions of this House. societies free from exploitation and free from hunger. His passing away has been Lastly, I once again express my at an inopportune time, in a sense, condolences to their bereaved families because negotiations are going to start and thank you. on the question of nuclear arms. We 9 Obituary References SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Obituary References 10 hope that the Democratic People's which became a bastion of the Freedom Republic of Korea will continue to follow Movement. Kumari Abha Maiti was a part the ideals and example of President Kim- of that legacy and she had distinguished II-Sung. herself in the House. She worked as a Minister also in the House. We shall continue to have the closest friendly relations with the We shall also miss the absence of Govemment and people of North Korea. our two other colleagues, Shri Tuta Ram Sir, on my behalf and on behalf of my and Shri Anan! Prasad Dhusia. Party I convey our sincerest condolences to the Government and friendly people, So far as President Kim-II-Sung is of North Korea. We hope that this tragic concemed, I had the good fortune to visit loss will not halt the progress, both of his country two years ago as a guest of the country and the friendly people of the Workers Party of Korea. I met him North Korea. personally and also had for quite a length of time talks with him. So far as other colleagues, whom we have lost, are concerned, I have had Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have referred the privilege of working with them in this and the Prime Minister also referred to House since the Fifth Lok Sabha and I the fact that we have very good relations distinctly remember their active between our two countries, but I must partiCipation and contribution to the say that it was the ardent desire of the proceedings of this House. I also moum Government, the ruling party and of the their loss and I request you, Sir, to people of the Democratic People's convey our sincerest condolences to the Republic of Korea that the Indian Prime members of bereaved families. Minister should pay at least one official visit to their country which unfortunately SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA was not possible to bring about upto (Midnapore): Mr. Speaker, Sir, first of all, now. Especially, since the Prime Minister on behalf of my Party I wish to offer our visited South Korea, they were all the condolences at the passing away of more eager that a visit to their country these three colleagues of ours who made should also be arranged. I know the their own contributions to the work of this Prime Minister also was quite eager to House. go, but anyway during the life time of President Kim-II-Sung it could not come Kumari Abha Maiti belonged to the about. And, it is a tragic irony also that District of Midnapore of West Bengal, he passed away, though at a ripe old which district has eamed quite a place age, on the eve of the historically crucial for itseH in the course of freedom struggle, moment when for the first time a Summit particularly during 1942 Movement. She meeting, face to face meeting, between belonged to a group, I should say, of President Kim-II-Sung and the President Congressmen hailing from Midnapore of South Korea was about to take place district. We all remember Shri Satish which I think would have gone a long way Samant and several other old freedom In restoring peaceful and normal conditions fighters, both the Congressmen and in that part of the world and also helping Communists, who were strong in their towards the peaceful re-unification of the own way In the district of Midnapore COtIIltry which has been divided. From 11 Obituary References JULY 25, 1994 Obituary References 12

our own experience in this country, we upliftment of the poor and down-trodden. all feel that any country once divided. if He continued to work for the upliftment by the efforts of their own people, can of the poor even when he was no more be peacefully reunited on the basis of a Member of Parliament. He is not with certain agreed principles, nothing could us today. be better. Shri Tula Ram was no less than Unfortunately on the eve of that him. I also had an opportunity to work historic Summit Conference he has with him. He was greatly interested in passed away. social works and did a lot in the creative field. He worked throughout his life for All I want to say, Sir, is that, there his constituency, his district and used to be quite a lot of arcasm and particularly for the landless labourers. I chides, particularly, in the Western Press am confident that the people of his about the fact that he was always referred district will emulate his example and to in his country as the great leader. complete his unfinished task. Anybody who visits that country once and sees with his own eyes as to how The innocent nature, smiling face that country has been transformed and and simple personality of Kumari Abha developed over the years under his Maiti left and indelible impression on leadership would not be surprised that whosoever met her. She worked tirelessly his people, at least, do really sincerely for the upliftment of the women on regard him as the great leader. I do not national and international level. She had wish to add anything but the liberation creative suggestions for her mission and of his country and its advance to its was constantly anxious to achieve her present position was entirely due to his goal. I am sure that the path she showed efforts. will lead to the upliftment of the country's weaker sections and the women in Today, when he has passed away, particular. it is fitting that our country should pay a tribute to his memory. So, Sir, I join I urge you to convey our party's with others in hoping that his country will condolences to their bereaved families. be able to further advance and progress along the path which they have chosen. [English}

{Translation] Mr. Speaker, Sir, President, Kim- II-Sung will be known in the history as SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV a greater revolutionary and also a great (Azamgarh): Mr. Speaker, Sir, we are all statesman. He will be known as a builder grieved by the passing away of our three of the modem Democratic People's fonner senior Members. Republic of Korea. I had an occasion to meet him twice. first about 19 years Shri AIlant Prasad Dhusia was my before and then last I met him was 4 neighbour in district Basti and, usually. years before. we worked together. One who met him was greatly impressed by his innocent During my both the visits, I had disposition and his deep faith in the seen how North Korea has progressed 13 Obituary References SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Obituary References 14 in all aspects. It is a delight to see a He was a source of strength for new generation, a vibrant generation peace and solidarity. He had given his and a young generation, full of vitality support and cooperation to India at the and the most important thing is that times of crisis. He supported the Kashmir every inch of his land was used for issue and other important issues. In his agricultural purposes. He was a man who death, India has lost a good friend. was always concerned with peace, with international cooperation and he was a Three of our former Members of great friend of India. In my last meeting, Parliament passed away. They will be he, speciallt" conveyed the feeling that remembered for their valuable he would like that India and Korea should contribution. work together along with other Asian countries. On behalf of AIADMK, I pay my tribute and homage to all of them. His last concern was the unity of the Asian countries. He could see that SHRI CHinA BASU (Barasat): there was an onslal!ght on the developing join you and the Prime Minister and other countries in the field of economics, in the distinguished colleagues in the House to field of politics. Therefore, he was pay on my behalf and on behalf of my concerned with all this. party respectful homage to Kim-II-Sung, the President of the DPRK and the He was really working hard for the General Secretary of the Korean Workers' unity of the developing coufltries, Party. particularly the Asian people. The world knows that he was a I am sure, his joss is not only to great patriot and universaHy respected by the democratic people of Korea but to the people of Korea. He was consistent the entire people who are fighting for and valiant fighter against imperialism peace, who are fighting for building a and neo-colonalism. He was a consistent new world, who are fighting for a new friend of India. civilization and a new culture. The people of Korea and the people I would like you to convey our of India have got many common values feelings on behaH of my party to the to sustain. He lived and worked for democratic people of South Korea. building socialism in his country. He lived and worked to defend .world peace. He lived and worked to continue the fight SHRI P.G. NARAYANAN against imperialism and neo-colonialism (Gobichettipalayam): Mr. Kim-It-Sung and all kinds of machinations of the war- headed North Korea regime in the Second mongers of the wor1d. He had undying Wood War when two Koreas carne into faith in the ultimate victory of socialism. existence. He had been the President of He contributed for further enrichment of North Korea for the past 46 years. the universal teachings of scientific Throughout his long tenure, he had socialism by Introducing his very scientific maintained excellent and cordial idea, which is called the juchi idea of relationship with India. I hope the same applying S<:ientifIc and universal teachings relationship continue in the new wi. of Marxism, Leninism in the concrete regime also. situation of the country. 15 Obituary References JULY 25, 1994 Oral Answer 16

His demise is a great loss not only Korea. I also express my deep to the people of Korea but to the wor1d condolences to the family members of forces who are fighting against Shri Anant Prasad Dhusia, Shri Tula imperialism, who are fighting against Ram and Kumari Abha Maiti. Thank you, neo-colonialism, who are fighting for the Sir. defence of peace, who are fighting, as their goal, for establishing socialism. MR. SPEAKER: The House may now stand in silence for a short while On behalf of my party, I, once as a mark of respect to the deceased. again, pay my respectful homage to that great leader and great Statesman of the 11.36 hrs. world. The Members then stood in silence We had lost during the intervening for a short while period some of our valued comrades.

Sir, I, on behalf of my party and on my own behalf, also express my 11.38 hrs. grieved shock at the sad demise of Shri Anant Prasad Dhusia, Shri Tula Ram and ORAL ANSWER TO QUESTION Kumari Abha Maiti. I had the opportunity of having some close contacts with Kumari Maiti, who worked for the upliftment of [Translation] the downtrodden, particularly women. Prime Minister's Visit to Russia With these words, I thank you. + SHRI D. VENKATESWARA RAO *1. DR. SAKSHIJI: (Bapatla): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I associate SHRI DATIATRAYA myself with the feelings expressed in the BANDARU: House on the sad demise of the President Kim-II-Sung, President of North Korea. Will the Minister of EXTERNAL He was a great warrior, nationalist, AFFAIRS be pleased to state: revolutionary and a great leader. Mr. Speaker, Sir, he was responsible for the (a) whether the Prime minister development of the whole of Korea and visited Russia recently; he maintained good relations with India. He was a strong believer of Non-Aligned (b) if so, the issues discussed by Movement. him with Russian leaders and the outcome thereof; Mr. Speakef, Sir, he was the President of Korea for the last four (c) whether any agreements were decades. His sad demise Is sad not only signed during the visit in various spheres; for the Koreans but for all AsIans and aU the peopte. I extend on behalf of my (d) if so, the salient features thereof party and on my own behalf, my deep and the extent of their usefulness In condoIenceI to the frtencIy people of strengthening bilateral relations; and 17 Oral Answer SRAVANA 3, 1916·(SAKA) Oral Answer 18

(e) the time by which these (6) Agreement on Cooperation in agreements are likely to be implemented? the field of Protection of the Environment and N"atural THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Resources. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) to (e). A (7) Agreement on Cooperation in Statement is placed on the table of the the Exploration and Use of House. Outer Space for Peaceful Purposes. [English] (8) Memorandum of Under- STATEMENT standing (MOU) on Science and Technology Cooperation (a) Yes Sir. The Prime Minister in the field of Meteorology. visited Russia from 29 June-2 July, 1994. (9) Memorandum of Under- standing (MOU) on Science (b) Wide-ranging discussions took and Technology Cooperation place on international, regional and in the field of Metrology. bilateral issues. In particular, attention was focussed on furthering bilateral (10) Agreement on Formation of cooperation and overcoming obstacles in Indo-Russian Aviation Private the economic, commercial, defence, Ltd. sCience and technology and cultural fields. (11) Protocol to the Agreement on (c) and (d). Yes Sir. The following extending credit to the Republic documents were signed during the visit:- of India for financing long-term projects in the field of technical (1) Moscow Declaration on the cooperation and for purchasing Protection of the Interests of special equipment. Pluralistic States. A summary of the salient features (2) Declaration on the Further of each document is given in the D~velopment and Intensifica- Annexure. These agreements and MOUs tion of Cooperation between provide a framework for cooperation on India and the Russian a continuous basis in ttlese area. Federation. (e) The Agreements on Cooperation (3) Agreement on Cooperation in in Science and Technology, Information Science and Technology. Technology, Tourism, Protection of the Environment and Natural Resources, (4) Agreement on Cooperation in Exploration and Use of Outer Space for the field of Information P~ Purposes and the MOUs on Technology. Cooperation In Meteorology and in the field of Standardlsalion and Metrology (5) Agreement on Cooperation In have cIaU888 prcMding for automatic the field of Tourism. . extension unIeIa revoked by eIher Party. 19 Oral Answer JULY 25, 1994 Oral Answer 20

Concerned departments are already in aircraft, information. Cooperation in the the process of implementing these in the area of culture and human agreements and MOUs. The Agreement resources development. Concrete steps on Formation of Indo-Russian Aviation under the CEP. Concern over the Private Ltd. is in the process being continuing tension on the Tadjik-Afghan operationalised and the Protocol to the border. Affinity of approach with regard Agreement on extending credit to India to the Asia Pacific Region and the for financing long-term projects in the situation in Afghanistan. Support to the field of technical cooperation and inter-Tadjik dialogue. purchasing special equipment has taken effect. Cooperation In Science and Technology: Cooperation in fundamental ANNEXURE and applied research, industrial research. Encouragement of direct contacts. Moscow Declaration on the Exchange of scientists, scientific information, joint research, labouratories Protection of the Interests of Pluralistic States: Recognition of growing threat and setting up of design bureau. Research from aggressive nationalism, religious activities under ILTP. Nodal departments and political extremism, terrorism, Department of Science and Technology, separatism to the unity of pluralistic India and Ministry of Science and States. Inadmissable to arouse inter- Technology and Technology Policy, Russia. ethnic, inter-religious hatred. Support for the territorial integrity of these States. India understands Russian concerns that Tourism Cooperation: Establish- the fundamental human rights of all ment of contacts between organisations people in the FSU States should be and companies. Simplification of immigra- safeguarded. Russia appreciates the tion/customs. Facilitate the issuance of efforts made by the Government and the visas upto 3 months. Facilitate import people of India to strengthen social and exchange of publicity material. harmony, preserve territorial integrity, Exchange of statistics, experience in support to actions taken by India to hotel management. Assistance to each strengthen social harmony, preserve its other in training of staff. Opening of territorial integrity, to create atmosphere representations in either country. of confidence in South Asia. International Exchange of groups, promotion of community, international organisations individual tourism. Nodal Ministriesl urged to respect integrity of these States. Ministries. Department of Tourism, Ministry of Civil Aviation, India and State Committee for Physical Culture and On the Further Development and Tourism. Intensification of cooperation: Cooperation on such areas as terrorism, subversion, international crime, Exploration and U.. of Out.,. disarmament. In the area of trade and Space for Peaceful PUrpoM: Russian investment, encouragement to private Space Agency: Russian Space Agency and public sectors, joint ventures, and ISRO to be the implementing investments. In the area of Science and agencies. Cooperation In the field of Technology, cooperation in the areas of outer space,' space medIctnes, manned nuclear energy, outer space, passenger flight, space flights. The planning and 21 Oral Answer SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Oral Answer 22 conduct of joint projects, jOint use of species. The facilitation of direct contacts launch vehicles, space and ground between organisations (State, public and facilities. Intellectual property protection. private). The establishment of a working Consultation on annual basis between group. Forms of cooperation, joint the heads of the executive agencies. projects, exchange of information. Nodal Additional meetings be!ween the Foreign agencies Ministry of Environment and Ministries if necessary. Forests, India and the Ministry of Environment Protection and Natural Cooperation in the Field of Resources, Russia. Information Technology Nodal Agencies: Department of Electronics from Standardisation, Metrology and the Indian side and the Presidential Certification: Nodal agencies, Bureau of Committee on Informatisation from the Indian Standards and the Committee of Russian side are the nodal agencies. the Russian Federation for Cooperation in areas such as promotion standardisation, Metrology, and of jOint ventures, jOint information certification: A sub-working Group to be technology projects in ecology, medicine, established. Cooperation in the field of management, banking, stock exchange. standardisation, Metrology and Presidential Committee on Informatisation certification. Joint research and standards Policy. Encouragement of reciprocal specimen checks. purchases of information technology. Setting up of a working group under the Defence Related Agreements: Indo-Russian Joint Commission. Protocol to the Agreement on extending credit to the Republic of India for financing Memo~ndum on S&T long-term projects in the field of technical Cooperation in the Field of Meteorology cooperation and for purchasing special between the Indian Meteorological equipment, dated September 17, 1992: Department (IMD) and the Russian The Protocol makes amendments to the Federal Service for Hydrometeorology September 17, 1992 agreement and and Environmental Monitoring: Joint extends the period of utilisation of the work in the areas of meteorology, credit till September 1996. US $ 830 environmental monitoring, and climate. million worth of special equipment is to Exchange of scientists, information, joint be delivered under the Agreement. 5% projects. Nodal agencies the Indian interest, 7 years repayment maintained. Meteorological Department (IMD) and the Russian Federal Service for Agreement on formation of Indo- Hydrometeorology and Environmental Russian Aviation Pvt. Ltd.: Signed MonitOring. between Aviation Industries on Indian and Russian sides. Indian partners are Cooperation in the field of Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. and Industrial Protection of Environment and Natural Credit and Investment Corporation of Resources: Areas of cooperation include India Ltd. The Russian partners are the on subjects such as global environment, Moscow Aircraft Production Organisation. climatic changes, depletion of the ozotle The Mikoyan Design Bureau, State layer, conservation of biological diversity, Corporation for Armaments Export protection of tigers and Siberian cranes. 'Resvoorouzheniye' and the Ryazan State Prevention of trade in endangered Instruments Plant. 23 Oral Answer JULY 25,1994 Oral Answer 24 The Joint Venture will soon be DR. SAKSHLJI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, in registered under Indian Law and will reply to part 'c' of my question, the hon. provide a wide range of maintenance Minister has stated that the support and service to all aircraft of implementation process had already been Russian origin in India and in third started by the concerned departments countries. The Joint Venture shall have regarding the agreements, whereas the an authorised share capital of US $ 400 hon. Prime Minister had gone on a visit million. Equity 50:50. to Russia between 29th June to 2nd July and about one dozen agreements were [ Translation] signed during this period. I would ~ike to know, by when these agreements will be implemented. November is fixed for it but DR. SAKSHIJI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I I am doubtful about it as even after giving would like to thank the hon. Minister of in writing many a times regarding the External Affairs for laying down the agreements, the promises have not been answers of my questions on the table of kept. I would like to cite a small example the House. Besides it I would like to in this regard, even after making a know, as I had asked in part 'd' of my promise regarding the Ayodhya issue, question, how far these agreements will the issue was taken to the Supreme be useful in strengthening bilateral Court ... (Interruptions) Mr. Speaker, Sir, relations, but the hon. Minister has not if the hon. Members will behave like this given a proper reply to it. Moreover the then how one can express his views ... hon. Minister has not fixed a time limit (Interruptions) for the implementation of these agreements. My submission to the hon. Minister is that first of all he should give I would like to submit that the hon. reply to both of these questions only then Prime Minister had sent the Ayodhya issue to the Supreme Court under article I would ask the other question. 143 ... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: it will be taken as MR. SPEAKER: Please come to your supplementary question. the supplementary question.

SHRJ R.L. BHATIA: Mr. Speaker, DR. SAKSHIJI: Though the SiT, the details of all the agreements supplementary question I would like to between India and Russia has been request hon. External Affairs Minister given and regarding their implementation, that. we have also taken some decisions. Committees have been set up in some areas and in some areas the discussions MR. SPEAKER: Don't make have been completed and a few are yet submission but ask your question. to be completed. A final decision will be taken on all these things in the meeting DR. SAKSHIJI: My question is that of joint committees which Is scheduled how far these agreements will be useful to be held in November this year in India. in strengthening the bilateral relations Six groups have been formed for it which and what has been the usefulness of the will submit their reports by November. agreements made tiN date? Whenever The final decision wiD be taken in the joint the External Affairs Minister or.the Prime committee meeting. Minister of our country goes on a foreign 25 Oral Answer SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Oral Answer 26

tour, he goes there with a begging bowl of rupee had changed. Now one rouble in hand and this time also during the is equivalent to Rs. 25. foreign tour of the hon. Prime Minister, the same thing has happened ... So, in the present context, I wanted (Interruptions) to tell the hon. Prime Minister or the External Affairs Minister the mode of This time also a promise have repayment should be based on the been made to give loan. Our Prime present intemational market value. I want Ministers have been going on foreign to know whether this condition or whether tours with a begging bowl in hand till this perspective has come before the date ... (lnterruptions) agreement between India and Russia.

My question is that how long this My second question is a very practise will continue. important one and that is with regard to the transfer of the technology. I want to know whether because of the pressure MR. SPEAKER: What is the utility of United States, Russia was not inclined of such agreements? . to give that technology to India. I would also like to know whether this pOint had SHRI R.L. BHATIA: I would like to also come in the agreement or in the inform you that on such high level, discussion during the visit of the hon. discussions some issues are settled, Prime Minister. some policies are framed and the decisions taken are sent to the concerned SHRI R.L. BHATIA: Sir, with regard Ministries. This time also some high level to the debt which India owes to Russia, decisions have been taken in the it is true that ~ome time back when concerned Ministries of both India and President Yelstin'Was here in India, some Russia wiH decide it and the Ministries agreements werel entered into that India have taken up this work. We are will be paying Rs. 'sooo crores every year monitoring it so that the decision taken for 12 years and Russia will import goods by the hon. Prime Minister. against this debt.

[English] The hon. Member has also raised a point of Rupee-ROtt>le ratio. When we SHRI DATTATRAYA BANDARU: discuss this point, I think, we will have Mr. Speaker, Sir, the four-day visit of our to take a broad view of the total gamut Prime Mini~er to Russia was on two of relations between India and Russia. All important Issues. One is about liquidating these projects which were given to India the huge debt which this country owes were given at a very subsidised and low to the second giant, Russia, particularly rates as compared to the world market a surn of Rs. 30,000 crore is lying in the at that time. coffers of the Reserve Bank of India. Ear1ier when Mr. GOIbachev was In the Secondly, it was given on a special Government, the value of a rouble was Interest of 2.5 per cent. So, India, all equivalent to Rs. 19 in Indian currency. these years, has gained the advantage And because of the present political and of this debt. While making a settlement economic collapse of Russia, the value with regard to the debt, this ratio was 27 Oral Answer JULY 25, 1994 Oral Answer 28

fixed and accordingly we are dealing with and we have placed our view that it. is trying to intemationalise this qUE!lstion. Their view is very clear and that has Thirdly, the hon. Member has raised been stated by them that the maHer be the question of cryogenic engine. There discussed between India and Pakistan by was an agreement between ISRO on the a dialogue under the Simla Agreement. Indian side and Glavkosmos on the At the same time, they also say that the Russian side that they will supply to us intemationalisation of this question will this cryogenic engines and also the not help. second advantage that we could have was that they would give us the technical SHRI D. VENKATESWAI1A RAO: knowhow etc. But later on there was an Sir, India is the largest supplier of tobacco objection from America and they asked to Russia. Every year 40000 tonnes of us that let us revise the agreement tobacco is to be exported to Russia from again. So, in the new agreement, Russia India. But in the last two or three years has continued to supply us two cryogenic it got hampered. Last year, the engines with the additional two cryogenic Govemment of India gave an advanced engines with the option that they will credit of Rs. 100 crore to purchase supply to us three more cryogenic tobacco for Russia. engines. That means India will get seven cryogenic engines from Russia under the An agreement was entered into new agreement. But in this case, Russia buy 27,200 tonnes of tobacco, out of will not give us the technical knowhow. which 8,777 tonnes were not litted from But India will continue to get cryogenic India. I would like to know whether any engines as agreed upon. kind of arrangement was made to lift this tobacco and whether there is any SHRI DATTATRAYA BANDARU: programme to put the tobacco in the debt Sir, the question is about transfer of repayment route process. This is very technology. important as far as Andhra and Kamataka are concemed, where tobacco is the MR. SPEAKER: He has replied. He main crop. is not going to get it. SHRI R.L. BHATIA: Yes, Sir, SHRI INDER JIT: Mr. Speaker, Sir, tobacco is put in that agreement. The in the past, the erstwhile Soviet Union Prime Minister was very much emphatic supported India strongly on the Kashmir on this issue of tobacco that there should issue. I would like to ask the hon. Prime be a three-year prospective agreement Minister, who is happily present here, between the two parties· with regard to whether we can now count on Russia to tobacco, tea, leather goods, upper shoes continue to extend its full support to us and soya bean. These items were on the Kashmir issue at the UN and particularty discused to be the part of this elsewhere as a successor State to the debt arrangement so that India could Soviet Union. export. A three-year prospect has been agreed upon. SHRI R.L. BHATIA: Sir, so far as the Kashmir question is concemed, we THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI P.V. have discussed this problem with them NARASIMHA RAO): I would like to add 29 Oral Answer SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Oral Answer 30 something in this connection. I have SHRI R.L. BHATIA: Our relations been stressing and re-stressing the fact with Russia are very old and almost in to the tobacco farmer friends in Andhra every area we have cordial relations with and elsewhere that they should now each other. We have different perception reduce production of tobacco and switch in one or two areas but by and largB our to some other crops because worldwide relations are harmonious. You have made tobacco has become something which no a reference to security council. one wants to use. It leads to cancer. Medical science has proved it times {English] without number. I have been appealing to them in open meetings, public meetings, As 1 said, we have some different because my area also comes under perception so far as N.P.T. and other tobacco, and I have been warning them areas are concerned. that we cannot indefinitely make arrangement for the export of tobacco, either to China or to Russia or elsewhere, [Translation] particularly when their own condition does not really permit them to give any But as far as security council and priority to tobacco. So, these are matters U.N.O. are concemed, may be restructure which we have been trying our very best in your view, means that it should be to sort out. But there is a limit beyond restructured and democratised and ... which we cannot go, unless the farmers and our friends from the Opposition from DR. CHATTRAPAL SINGH: It Andhra and other States where tobacco means that India would be the member is grown, join us in this campaign that of the security councilor not. progressively they should bring the area of tobacco down and not increase it MR. SPEAKER: Please take your indiscriminately, as has gone on for seat. I think that he does not mean it some time in these States. but something else.

SHRI R.L. BHATIA: It is our view [Translation] that at the time of its formation the members were less but today the number SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH: Mr. is large. It should be represented and Speaker, Sir, the Indo-Russian relations people from all the areas should be have started a fresh, we should welcome given, representation. As far as India is It. Our hon. Prime Minister has also paid conoemed, Russia will support it. a visit there. I would like to know from the hon. Prime Minister and the hon. {English] External Affairs Minister if any change has come in the Indo-Russian relations SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: Mr. in the present international set up and Speaker, Sir, I will put that pOint in a If It is so, what is it? Secondly, whether further concrete way. I would like to know any discussion was held for the whether the Treaty ·of Friendship and Membership of our country to the security Cooperation which we had with the council, If so, was an assurance given erstwhile Soviet Union continues still in In this regard? the same form including the question of 31 Oral Answer JULY 25, 1994 Oral Answer 32 security in this region or not. I would also SHRI ATAl BIHARI VAJPAYEE: like to know whether the present Russia Mr. Speaker Sir, the cold war is over, now consid~rs India as the Most Favoured the Union of Soviet Republics have Nation in this region as the former Soviet diSintegrated and the Warsaw pact is Union was considering or whether they over but NATO is still intact. Not only equate us with Pakistan in the same way NATO does exist but the extension of it as far as this region is concemed. is also being done. The pOint of disarmament has been raised so is there SHRI R.L. BHATIA: Sir, Russia any scnchronisation between the considers India a great friend and there extension and strengthening of NATO is contact at all levels between us and and the disarmament? Had the policy there is cooperation with us. So far as adopted by our country regarding the the 1971 agreement is concemed, the N.P.T. and developing of missiles been Clause 9 of the agreement, which was discussed with the Russian leaders, what a security clause, is not there. But is their attitude towards it or we should otherwise there is complete cooperation take it granted that both America and in the field of culture and economy. Russia have the same opinion towards it. [Translation] [English] SHRI RABI RAY: Mr. Speaker, Sir, would like to know from the hon. SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO: Sir, Minister that this Indo-Russian agreement they know our position so well that they signed by the hon. Prime Minister and have not raised it at all during my visit. the President of the Soviet Union has been useful for our defence services [Translation] specially for our Air Force. I would like to know from the hon. Minister if it is also a fact that the Naval Chief of Russia had SHRI ATAl BIHARI VAJPAYEE: made a promise to give us a 'B' class Mr. Speaker Sir, I do not have to say aircraft career of 40500 tonnes, which anything and I do not have any complaint has not been completed as yet I would the hon. Prime Minister is satisfied with also like to know from the hon. Minister this reply. if any discussion was held in Russia for the benefit of our Navy? SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: Sir, I would like to ask just one question from SHRI R.L. BHATIA: As far as the the hon. Prime Minister regarding defence question of co-operation in the field of matters. Under the present circumstances, defence is concemed, a joint venture will 85 percent of the arms have been be set up for MIG's etc. Secondly a purchased for our defence services from committee has been set up, which will Russia. It is obvious here that whatever is have representatives of both Russia and written here about the defence related India, to find out the other fields of agreement, there is nothing clear in It about cooperation in defence services. As far the purchase of arms between our country as your question of naval ship is and Russia. On the contrary 830 million concemed, their Defence Minister is doHars have been mentioned, when 85 per coming on a visit to our country and a cent of our arms are purchased from discussion will be held with him. Russia, has the hon. Prime Minister 33 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 34 decided anything with them for the (g) whether these companies maintenance of the arms and for the spare propose to commence their marketing parts and other materials? activities within a time-bound period; and

SHRI R.L. BHATIA: Russia has (h) if so, the details thereof? given us 'a loan of 830 million dollars and we can purchase necessary parts and THE MINIST£;R OF STATE OF equipments for the updating of our THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND weapons from them by it. 830 million NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAF dollars has been given on loan by Russia SHARMA): (a) to (c). Under the Paralle for this purpose. Marketing System, the private agencief have been allowed to import LPG, using setting up their own facilities am distribution network for sale of suct WRITTEN ANSWERS TO imported . LPG at market determine! QUESTIONS prices. Individual parties do not need an~ specific permission from the Ministry c Parallel LPG Marketing Petroleum and Natural Gas for thl activities they intend to undertake unde *2. SHRI UDAYSINGRAO the Parallel Marketing System. Howevel GAIKWAD: they are required to obtain necessar SHRI VILASRAO NAG- approvals in accordance with th NATHRAO GUN DEWAR: provisions of other relevant Acts an Rules goveming safety, environment, etc Will the Minister of PETROLEUM At present no private party is ready wit AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to the facilities of their own for import c 11 state: LPG. private parties have signe Memorandum of Understanding with th public sector oil companies for the us (a) the names of the private sector of their handling and storage facilities ; companies permitted for parallel LPG pOrts for import of LPG. Several partiE marketing in the country and the criteria have planned to develop their own impc adopted for such permission; facilities. The Chief Controller ' Explosives has already issued licens! (b) whether arrangements for LPG for 14 bottling plants and also apprOVE import, storage, safety, price and bottling plans for setting up 61 other LPG bottlir have been made by them; plants by parallel marketeers.

(c) If so, the details thereof; (d) to (f). Govemment have r fixed any charges to be collected fre (d) whether the Govemment have the consumers. However, reports ha fixed some charges to be collected from come to the notice of the GovemmE consumers by these companies; about some parallel marketeers collecti deposits from distributors and consume (e) If so, the detalls thereof; The State and UT Govemments ha been advised to ban collection of depoE (f) If not, the reasons therefor; by parallel marketeers without makI 31 Oral Answer JULY 25,1994 Oral Answer 32

35 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 36 adequate arrangements for supply' of (c) the percentage of reduction these products. Besides, they have also made in the oil bill during 1993-94 as been advised to verify the genuineness, compared to the previous year; and antecedents and capabilities of persons! agencies intending to take up activities (d) the target fixed for 1994-95? under the parallel marketing system and to take appropriate action against persons THE MINISTER OF STATE OF found indulging in fraudulent and unfair THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND trade practices. Public have also been NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR suitably advised and warned through SHARMA): (a) and (b). The quantum of press releases that they must find out import of crude oil and petroleum products the antecedents, genuineness and is determined on the basis of availability capabilities of concerned parallel of crude oil and products from indigenous marketeers before entering into any sources. Efforts made to reduce the bill transaction within them. MRTP are through increased oil production, Commission also takes action against increased refinery production, persons/firms/companies indulging in conservation of oil products and unfair trade practices. competitive purchases.

An amount of US $ 6.958 billion (g) and (h). The private parties are was provided for import of crude oil and expected to commence activities under petroleum products during the year parallel marketing system depending on 1993-94. As against this, the actual their commercial decision. However, some import bill for 1993-94 was about US $ of the parties have already imported 5.471 binion. The reduction in the oil LPG, major portion of which has been import bill during 1993-94 as compared sold to bulk consumers. with the original approved import bill is estimated at US $ 1.487 billion. {franslation] (c) The oil import bill for 1993-94 is lower by about 10% as compared to Oil Bill the previous year.

*3. SHRt RAJESH KUMAR: (d) Government has approved an SHRIMATI BHAVNA import of 24.230 MMT of crude oil and CHlKHLlA: 14.773 MMT 01 petroleum products 10r an estimated value of US $ 5.980 billion for the year 1994-95. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to NatIonal Highway. state: ·4. SHRI LALIT ORAON: Will the (8) whether the Govemment had 8 Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be proposal to reduce the 011 Import bill; pleased to state:

(a) the amount allocated and (b) If 80, the achievements made released to Bihar during the last three In that direction 80 far; years for construction, repair and 37 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 38 maintenance of National Highways in the and the total amount likely to be spent State; thereon?

(b) the amount spent by the State THE MINISTER OF SlATE OF Government; THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (c) the head-wise amount allocated (a) and (b). The amount allocated and to the State for 1994-95; and released to Bihar during last three years for construction, repair and maintenance (d) the National Highways in Bihar of National Highways and the expenditure likely to be taken up for construction, incurred by the State Government are as repair and maintenance during 1994-95 under:-

(Rs. in Jakns)

Year Development Maintenance and Repairs

Allotment Expenditure Allotment Expenditure

1991-92 1142.00 1292.81 1012.30 1089.73

1992-93 1385.00 1384.91 1072.66 1072.73

1993-94 1920.00 1920.00 1276.45 1276.45 (tentative) (tentative)

(c) The head-wise details of the too ear1y to indicate the amount likely to amount allocated/released to the State be spent during 1994-95. for the year 1994-95 is as under:- Post Offices In Rented Buildings (Rs. in lakhs) *5. SHRI CHHEDI PASWAN: Will Year Development Maintenance the Minister of COMMUNICATlONS be Amount Amount pleased to state: allocated released (a) whether many post offices are functioning in rented buildings; 1994-95 1700.00 581.78 (upto 6194) (b) if so, the rent paid during the last three years, State-wise; (d) Development and maintenance of NatlonaJ Highways Is a continuous (c) the various efforts made by the PI'OC888 and funds are allocated state- Government 'for the construction of Post wise and not national highway-wise. It Is 0fHce buildings; and 39 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 40 (d) the amount allocated for the of buildings. The amount allocated during said purpose during each of the last the last three years for construction of three years? Post Office and Mail Office buildings is as under: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (Rs. in crams) (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. 1991-92 1992-93 1993-94 (b) to (d). Efficiency of Postal operations depends to a great extent on 19.30 20.00 25.95 the availability of spacious and well- designed buildings. It is, therefore, one The rent paid during the last three of the objectives of the successive 5 years for the Post Offices and Mail years Plans of the DepartmeHt of Posts Offices functioning in rented buildings to construct buildings for Post Offices circle-wise is given in the attached and Mail Offices. During the 7th Five Statement. Since State-wise figures are Year Plan, the Department of Posts not maintained, information Postal Circle- spent Rs. 155.55 crore on construction wise has been given in the Statement.

STATEMENT

Rent paid for Post Offices during the last three years circle-wise

(in Rupees)

1991-92 1992-93 ~993-94

1. Andhra Pradesh 13995136 15095962 16246145

2. Assam 2430550 2436740 2512975

3. Bihar 5239900 5239900 5239900

4. Delhi '" 2294278.58 2811738.04 2568638.09 5. Gujarat 6054970 6297930 6308044

6. Haryana 1301994 139n58 1522638

7. Himachal Pradesh 1574000 1703000 1814000

8. Jammu & Kashmir 1471226 1350871 1365386

9. Kamataka 9311419 10387443 12078012 41 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 42

1991-92 1992-93 1993-94

10. Kerala 13190155 12300066 13273668

11. Madhya Pradesh 6024194 5648120 6513740

12. Maharashtra 28431099.72 30652682.54 24237881.51

13. North-East 2487178 2764829 2930810

14. Orissa 4877110 4726840 5732116

15. Punjab 2371611.15 2383477.10 2485168

16. Rajasthan 3377564.48 3697264.48 4227442.92

17. Tamil Nadu 14674708 14047428 15243947

18. Uttar Pradesh 11122916.07 12535774.65 13657437.48

19. West Bengal 12500000 10600000 12200000

Total 142729910 146077823.81 150157949

[English] (c) the amount of investment involved from those companies; Power Sector (d) the broad features of, such *6. SHRI CHinA BASU: power projects and the places where SHRI MANJA Y LAL: they are likely to be set up; and

Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: (e) the terms and conditions laid down for generation and transmission of (a) the position in rego:rd to the power by foreign and private sector . power requirement and power generation companies? in the current year ·in comparison to that of the last year in Delhi and other States; THE MINISTER OF POWER (SHRI N.K.P. SALVE): (a) The energy (b) the number of foreign/private requirement and energy generation in sector companies that have agreed to Delhi, and other States during April-June, Invest for setting up of power projects in 1993 and April-June, 1994 are given in india; the Statement I & 11 attached. 43 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 44

(b) to (d). As on date proposals crores. Details of the proposals are given have been received from foreign based in the Statement-II/ attached. private companies (including NRls) and (e) The guidelines for investment joint ventures for setting up of 35 projects by private sector companies (both foreign for a capacity addition for 22432 MW and domestic) in the power sector are involving an investment of Rs. 73386 given in the Statement-IV attached.

STATEMENT-I

The energy requirement during April 9:J-June 93 and April 9+-.June 94

Name of the State! Energy Requirement (Figures in Mu Net) UT/System April 93-June 93 April 93-June 94

Chandigarh 173 192

Delhi 2860 3140

Haryana 2730 2790

Himachal Pradesh 356 402

Janmmu & Kashmir 855 955

Punjab 5040 5360

Rajasthan 3625 3970

Uttar Pradesh 8020 9185

Gujarat 7620 8110

Madhya Pradesh 5490 6210

Maharashtra 11295 11895

Goa 205 242

Andhra Pradesh 6665 6885

Kamataka 5370 5460

KeraIa 1905 2072 45 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 46

Name of the Statel Energy Requirement (Figures in Mu Net) UTISystem April 93-June 93 April 93-June 94

Tamil Nadu 6675 7325

Bihar 2175 2280

DVC 1920 1920

Orissa 2135 2250

West Bengal 3185 3360

Arunachal Pradesh 37.4 41.3

Assam 558.4 567.8

Manipur 70.3 77.2

Meghalaya 65.6 75.8

Mizoram 27.6 32.6

Nagaland 30.6 31.3

Tripura 66.1 73.0

All India 79155 84902

STATEMENT ..II

Statewise/Systemwise Energy Generation during April 93 - June 93 and April 94 - June 94

Name of the State/System Energy Generation (MUs) April 93 - June 93 April 94 - June 94

BBMB 3243 2761

Delhi 1656 1703

J&K 868 892 47 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 48

Name of the State/System Energy Generation (MUs) April 93 - June 93 April 94 - June 94

Himachal Pradesh 673 1344

Haryana 659 876

Rajasthan 2060 2240

Punjab 2903 3015

Uttar Pradesh 11971 13205

Gujarat 6731 7522

Maharashtra 10429 11717

Madhya Pradesh 8536 8908

Andhra Pradesh 7821 6985

Kamataka 3642 3786

Kerala 1504 1495

Tamil Nadu 7108 8286

Bihar 783 705

Orissa 1046 804

West Bengal 4092 4717

D.V.C. 1504 1767

Sikkim 7 9

Assam 215 294

Meghalaya 382 330

Tripura 38 41

Manipur 160 154

T alai All India n9n 83566 49 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 50

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~ Lei 0; .... N C') C') N g C') C') ~ 59 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 60 STATEMENT-IV come from sources other than Public Financial Institutions. Guidelines of the policy to encourage Greater Private Investments in Power Upto hundred per cent (100%) foreign Generation and Distribution to Tap equity participation can be permitted Additionality of resources. for projects set up by foreign private investors. The following are the details of the scheme to encourage greater private The condition of dividend balancing sector participation in the electricity generation, supply and distribution:- by export earnings which is normally being applied to cases of foreign investment upto 51% equity will not The Indian Electricity Act, 1910 and be applicable to foreign investments the Electricity (Supply) Act, 1948 in the power sector. have been amended to bring about a new legal, administrative and financial environment for private The rates for depreciation in respect enterprises in the Electricity Sector. of assets have been liberalised.

Private Sector can set up thermal With the approval of the Government. projects (coal/gas) and hydel projects import of equipment for power and wind/solar energy project of any projects will also be permitted in size. cases where foreign supplier(s) or agency(ies} extend concessional credit. Electricity Projects where the total outlay does not exceed Rs. 25 crores need not be submitted to the Central The customs duty for import of Electricity Authority for concurrence. power equipment has been reduced to 20% and this rate has also been extended to machinery required for Private sector companies can set up modernisation and renovation of enterprises to operate either as power plants. licensees or as generating companies. A five year tax holiday has been allowed in respect of profits and All private companies entering the gains of new industrial undertakings Electricity Sector hereafter will be set up anywhere in India for either allowed a debt-equity ratio upto 4:1. generation or generation and distribution of power. The five year Promoter'S contribution should be at tax holiday will begin from the year least 11% of the total outlay. of generation of power.

To ensure that private entrepreneurs The excise duty on a large number bring in additionality of resources to of capital goods and instruments in the sector, not less than 60% of the the power sector has been reduced total outlay for the project must to a lower rate. 61 Written Answers SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 62

The 16% return on the foreign equity National Telecom Policy included in the tariff can be provided in the respective foreign currency. *7. SHRI BRAJA KISHORE TRIPATHY: Fixed costs can be recovered at SHRI CHETAN P.S. 68.5% PLF. Attractive incentives are CHAUHAN: prescribed for performance beyond this PLF. Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state:

For generating companies the (a) whether the new National following incentives are offered:- Telecom Policy contemplates foreign equity participation; Normative parameters under which generating companies will operate (b) if so, the percentage of such have been notified which inter alia equity by foreign and multinational provide for 16% rate of return on the companies and the other conditions for paid up and subscribed equity. such participation;

(c) whether any guidelines have Generating companies operating coal been framed in this regard; based, gas based and hydro projects can sell power on the basis of a (d) if so, the details thereof; and suitably structured two part tariff. (e) the future of C-DOT based The specific incentives for Licensees technology? are:- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Licences of longer duration of 30 (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) The National years in the first instance and Telecom Policy amongst other things, subsequent renewals of 20 years envisages private investment and instead of 20 and 10 years association of the private sector to bridge respectively as it was before. the resource gap.

Higher rate of return of 5% in place (b), to (d). The guidelines for of the previous 2% above the RBI implementation of the National Telecom rate. Policy are under consideration of the Government.

Capitalisation of Interest During (e) The National Telecom Policy Construction (IDC) at actual cost (for places emphasis on encouraging expansion projects also) as against indigenous technology and setting up of 1% over RBI rate as it was before. a suitable funding mechanism for indigenous R&D so that the Indian Special appropriations to meet debt Technology can meet the national demand redemption obligations. and al~ compete globally. 63 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 64 Tapti Gas Field Environmental Action Plan

*8. SHRI SHANKERSINH *9. SHRI V. SREENIVASA VAGHELA: Will the Minister of PRASAD: PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be SHRI TARA SINGH: pleased to state: Will the Minister of POWER be (a) whether the Government have pleased to state: conducted any survey in off shore Tapti Gas field of Gujarat; (a) whether the NT PC with the concurrence of the World Bank has (b) if so, the latest assessment of embarked on an environmental action availability of gas in this area; plan for power plants in various States;

(c) whether the availability of gas (b) if so, the details of the plan and .in the area is sufficient to meet the the quantum of World Bank assistance shortfall at Hazira and the proposed received for the said task; power plant in Pipavav; (c) the plans of the NT PC to (d) if so, the details, thereof; ensure zero discharge of industrial effluent; and (e) whether the Gujarat Government has sent any proposal to supply gas from (d) the time by which the the Tapti gas field and carry the gas on environmental plan is likely to be land to Hazira; and implemented in all the NTPC power plants? (f) if so, the time by which the Government is likely to take a final THE MINISTER OF POWER (SHRI decision in this regard? N.K.P. SALVE): (a) and (b). The Environmental Action Plan of NTPC for THE MINISTER OF STATE OF its power plants in various States, inter- THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND alia, includes>- NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The (i) Upgradation of Electrostatic recoverable reserves in the mid-Tapti Precipitators wherever neces- and South Tapti fields are 31525 mm 3• sary.

(c) No, Sir. (ii) Implementation of comprehen- sive effluent discharge Cd) Does not arise. schemes.

(e) and (f). Two Undertakings of (iii) Implementation of Resettlement the Govemment of Gujarat where partners & Rehabilitation (R&R) Action in a consortium that submitted a bid for Plan in accordance with the the development of the mid-Tapti fields. R&R Action Plan in accor- The bid was not found acceptable. dance with the R&R Policy 65 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 66 approved by Government of (d) if so, the details thereof? India. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (iv) Implementation of ecological THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND monitoring studies, ground level NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR contamination monitoring SHARMA): (a) and (b). Govemment has studies, etc. so far invited foreign and Indian companies to bid for exploration blocks (v) Implementation of safety and in seven rounds of bidding. In the recently hazard management plans. concluded Seventh Round of bidding, 45 blocks had been offered from the following Part of the funds required for basins:- the implementation of the action plan would be provided by the Onshore: World Bank under the US $ 400 Million NTPC Power Generation 1. Assam-Arakan Project Loan.

2. Bengal (c) Studies have been initiated by the NT PC to explore the possibilities of zero discharge of effluents from their 3. Cambay power plants. 4. Cauvery (d) The Environmental Action Plan will be implemented in phases by 1998- 5. Gujarat-Kutch 99 for the activities identified to be executed at present. 6. Krishna-Godavari

Exploration of Oil and Gas 7. Punjab "10. SHRIMATI GIRIJA DEVI: SHRI SRIKANTA JENA: 8. Purnea

Will the Minister of PETROLEUM 9. Rajasthan AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Offshore

(a) whether global tenders have 10. Andaman been invited for 011 and gas exploration in certain parts of the country; 11. Bengal

(b) if so, the areas for which global 12. Cauvery tenders have been invited and the response thereto; 13. Krishna-Godavari (c) whether any decision has been taken In this regard; and 14. Saurashtra 67 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 68

12 bids have been received for 10 (b) if so, the estimated hydro- blocks by the last date for receipt of bids electric potential in those regions; and of 30.6.94. (c) the details of the hydel units (c) and (d). Bids are under cleared in the Northern and North-Eastern evaluation. regions during each of the last three years?

Hydro Electric Potential THE MINISTER OF POWER (SHRI N.K.P. SALVE): (a) and (b). The Hydro- *11. SHRIMATI VASUNDHARA electric Potential assessed by Central RAJE: Electricity Authority in the Northern and SHRI NAWAL KISHORE North-Eastern Regions is 30155 MW and RAI: 31857 MW respectively at 60% load factors.

Will the Minister of POWER be (c) The hydel projects accorded pleased to state: investment approval by the Planning Commission with respect to state sector (a) whether the Government are projects and by the Government of India aware of the tremendous hydro-electric for Central Sector projects in the last 3 potential of Northern and North-Eastern years are indicated in the Statement regions; attached.

STATEMENT

Hydroelectric Projects in Northem & North-Eastem Regions cleared by Planning Commission/Govemment of India during the last 3 years

Region/StatelName of Installed Estimated Date of the Project and Capacity Cost Sanction Implementing Agency (MW) (Rs. Crores)

1991-92

Northern Region

Dhauliganga SI. I 4x70=280 601.98 8.4.91 (NHPC) (Central Govt. Undertaking)

North-Eastem Region

Nuranang 3x2=6 9.85 19.8.91 (Govt. of Arunachal Pradesh) 69 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 70

Region/StatelName of Installed Estimated Date of the Project and Capacity Cost Sanction Implementing Agency (MW) (Rs. Crores)

Serlui 'S' 2x4.5=9 41.57 31.10.91 (Govt. of Mizoram)

1992-93

Northern Region

Nil

North-Eastern Region

Nil

1993-94

Northern Region

Tehri St. I (UP) 4x25D-1000 3391.40 15.3.94 THDC (Joint Venture of Govt. of India and Govt. of Uttar Pradesh)

Shahput1(andi 2x40+2x40+ 895.08 5.7.93 (Govt. of Punjab) 1x6=168

North-Eastern Region

Kopili St. I Extn. 2}c5O=100 111.00 14.5.93 (NEEPCO) (A Central Govt. Undertaking)

Telecom expansion (a) the Quantum of funds required by the Govemment for development *12. SHRI SULTAN SAlAHUD- and expansion of telecommunication net- DIN OWAISI: work; SHRI D.VENKATESWARA RAO: (b) whether Sweden has agreed to Will the Minister of help India in tele-communication COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: expansion programmes; 71 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 72

(c) whether any agreement has (b) the details of roads proposed been reached in this regard; and to be declared as National Highways during 1994-95; and (d) if so, the details thereof alongwith the names of other countries who have (c) the details of the proposals for shown interest in this regard? construction of bridges on National Highways during 1994-95 and during the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Eigth Plan? THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Based on Eighth THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Five Year Plan targets, the requirement THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE of funds have been assessed as Rs. TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): 40555 crores. However under National (a) Based on the allocation earmarked Telecom Policy 1994, the targets have under the Central Sector Roads been revised. programme in the 8th Five Year Plan, it has been possible to declare only one (i) To provide telephone on road viz. Kumool-Chittoor in Andhra demand by 1-4-97. Pradesh as National Highway so far.

(ii) To provide public telephone (b) It is too early to indicate the facility in all villages. details of roads likely to be declared as National Highways during 1994-95. The additional investment to the tune of approximately Rs. 23000 crores (c) In the Annual Plan (1994-95). is required for meeting this revised target it is proposed to take up the construction which is envisaged to come partly from of 245 bridges at an estimated cost of private sector and partly from department Rs. 336.05 crores and in the 8th Plan. of Telecommunications. 429 bridges at an estimated cost of Rs. 680 crores. (b) There is no specific proposal from Sweden in this regard. Murari Committee Report

(c) Question does not arise. ·14. PROF. UMMAREDDY VENKA- (d) Question does not arise. TESWARLU: Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: National Highways

*13. SHRI S.B. SIDNAL: WiH the (a) whether the Government have Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be considered the recommendations of the pleased to state: Murari Committee Report on the deep sea fishing industry; (a) the roads/State Highways proposed to be declared as National (b) 11 so, the recommendations Highways during the Eighth Five Year proposed to be implemented during 1994 Plan, State-wise; partlcularty in Andhra Pradesh; and 73 Written·AnswelS SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 74

(c) whether any relief has been normally be limited to 50%, this limitation announced since July 1, 1994 for the sick would not apply to captive mines of any units in the country? mineral processing industry. Enhanced equity holding can also be considered on THE MINISTER OF . STATE OF case to case basis. THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): (c) Kudremukh Iron Ore Company (a) to (c). While no reliefs on the basis limited has not entered into any joint of recommendations of the Technical venture projects. Hindustan Zinc limited Committee have been announced so far, and Nuigini Mining Company of AuStralia the action for consideration of the have signed an MOU on 18.7.1994 in recommendations has been initiated at New Delhi for undertaking evaluation and the inter-Ministerial level. development of known gold prospects in India. National Mineral Policy Central Road Fund *15. SHRI R. SURENDER REDDY: Will the Minister of MINES be pleased *16. PROF. SAVITHRI to state: LAKSHMANAN: SHRI V. DHANANJAYA (a) whether the new National KUMAR: Mineral Policy has eased restrictions on foreign investments in jOint sector ventures; Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Question No. (b) if so, the salient features of the 761 on February 28, 1994 and state: Policy; and

(c) the details of the new joint (a) whether the Group of Ministers venture projects envisaged between has implemented the resolution on Central Kudremukh Iron Ore Company and Road Fund; Hindustan Zinc Ltd. and foreign mining companies? (b) if so, the details thereof;

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (c) whether augmentation in CRF THE MINISTRY OF MINES (SHRI is in accordance with the revised BALRAM SINGH YADAV): (a) and (b). estimates; Yes, Sir. The National Mineral Policy, 1993 for non-fuel and non-atomic (d) if not, the reasons therefor and minerals, inter alia, states that induction of foreign technology and foreign the criteria adopted for making allocation from the CRF; and participation in exploration and mining for high value and scarce minerals shall be pursued. Foreign equity investment in (e) the details of on-going wor1cs joint ventures In mining promoted by that have been affected adversely due Indian Companies would be encouraged. to non-allocation of funds from CRF. While foreign investment in equity would State-wise? 75 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 76

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (e) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (f) whether the Government have (a) No, Sir. suffered any financial loss due to discontinuance of or for re-starting the (b) and (c). Do not arise. project; and

(d) Pending actual augmentation of (g) if so, the details thereof? Central Road Funds, the funds are being allocated as per old Resolution taking THE MINISTER OF POWER (SHRI into account the total cost of schemes N.K.P. SALVE): (a) Yes Sir. approved for State, total funds released previously, inter-se priority on All India (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. The French basis, requirements projected by the Consortium of firms has stopped the State Government and availability of work at site since August, 1992 citing the budget provision. prevailing security environment as the reason. (e) The Central Government does not make scheme-wise allocation of funds to the State Governments under Central (d) and (e). Yes, Sir. National Hydroelectric Power Corporation and the Road Fund. Only a lump sum amount is French Consortium of firms are placed at the disposal of States against negotiating the terms of resumption of the approved schemes. work and towards this end a Memorandum of Understanding was recently signed by Dulhasti Hydroelectric Power them. Project

(f) and (g). Yes, Sir. Delay in *17. MAJ. GEN. (RETD.) completion of the project will entail a cost BHUWAN CHANDRA over-run. KHANDURI: SHRI SANDIPAN BHAGWAN THORAT: Invutment Promotion

WUI the Minister of POWER be *18. SHRI HARIN PATHAK: Will pleased to state: the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (a) whether a Hydro-Electric Power Project has been under construction at (a) whether the Govemment have Dulhasti by a French firm; formulated and Implemented any investment promotion strategy In foreign (b) if so, whether the work has countries to highlight the comparative been discontinued quite sometime back; advantage of Investment In India; and

(c) if so, the reasons therefor; (b) If so, the details thereof?

(d) whether the Government THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE propose to re-start the work; MINISTRY OF EXTERNAl AFFAIRS 77 Written Answers SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 78

(SHRI SALMAN KHURSHEED): (a) Yes, overseas counterparts and with Sir. the active participation of Indian Embassies abroad, organised (b) The Government has formulated several promotional events on and is implementing a comprehensive the opportunities for investment investment promotion strategy aimed at in India. promoting foreign investment into India. (d) Intensive interactions have Within the broad framework of this been organised on investment strategy, several steps have been taken issues with several visiting high to disseminate information about India's level business delegations. new economic policies and highlight the Such delegations have also comparative advantages of investment been given assistance in into India. meeting with relevant institutions and Ministries.

(a) Several promotional events have been organised both (e) Importance has been given to abroad as well as in India to developing suitable publicity project the country as an material aimed at projecting alternative investment India as an attractive destination to international investment destination. Publicity corporate and business kits comprising brochures, a audiences. These promotional floppy diskette entitled "Doing Business with India" and video events have been addressed presentations have been by Ministers and senior regularly prepared and updated. Government officials as well as Govemment has worked closely representatives of business and with Apex Chambers and with industry. business and industry in preparing these materials (b) In addition, bilateral visits of aimed at projecting the Government delegations to liberalised economic policies. important countries are used to address targetted business (f) India's Embassies abroad have audiences and inform them of accorded high priority to our liberalised economic projecting India's economic and policies. commercial interests and in particular, to attracting foreign (c) Government is working with investment into India. As part apex industry organisations in of this effort, Heads of Missions its efforts to attract foreign and other officers have investment. Overseas visits of developed a wide range .of Indian business delegations are contacts with local business in particular, being used to communities, as welli as NRI project India. Our apex businessmen and are Chambers have, in constantly trying to motivate collaboration with their them to investing in India. 79 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 80

Government proposes to continue to US $ 675 million. Over 25 India-China with these various steps to take them collaborations are operating in both further in disseminating information about countries. At the recent meeting of the our economic reform programme amongst Joint Economic Group (JEG) headed by foreign investors. In particular, it is the Commerce Ministers of the two intended to lay increasing emphasis on countries in New Delhi, June 14-17, a sector-specific approach in inve5tment 1994 the trade protocol for 1994-95 was promotion efforts. Government and our signed. A new border trade route thorough Embassies abroad are trying to and will Shipki Pass in Himachal Pradesh opened continue to utilise every available in July 16, 1994, in addition to. the opportunity to project India as an existing route through Lipulekh Pass in investment destination. Uttar Pradesh.

(Trans/ation ] The Festival of India in China (May-June, 1994) saw an exposition of Indo-China Relations Indian art, culture, music, song, dance, textiles, science and technology, books, films, fashion and philosophy in 16 cities *19. SHRI SIMON MARANDI: Will throughout China. the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Other exchanges such as science and technology, agriculture, space, social (a) the steps taken the Government welfare, audit, civil services training and to strengthen further the trade, cultural personnel management are growing. and other relations with China during the last two years; and The growing trade and other exchanges with China are also a result (b) the response of China in this of China's positive and constructive regard? interest in these developments.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Steel Production MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) and (b). Following the visit of the Prime Minister to China *20. SHRIMATI SAROJ DUBEY: in September 1993, Government have Will the Minister of STEEL be pleased maintained the momentum of high level to state: exchanges with China with ministerial visits in the agriculture, culture, petroleum, (a) the details of production of steel coal and metallurgy sectors. The seventh in the country, State-wise; meeting of the India-China Joint Wonong Group was held in Beijing on 6-7 July 1994. Chinese Vice Premier and Foreign (b) whether China has offered more Minister Mr. Qian Qichen visited India cost effective technology for the from 17-19 July, 1994. production of steel and mining of iron ore; and

In the last two years, total two-way trade almost doubled in 1993 over 1992 (c) if so, the details thereof? 81 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 82

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Beijing (CERI) of China, while MIs. THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI Simplex, an Indian firm, has signed an SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) Details of agreement with MIs. China Metallurgical State-wise production of Saleable steel Import & Export Corporation for mini during 1993-94 are given in the enclosed blast furnace technology. A list of joint Statement-I. ventures in the iron and steel sector between India and China is enclosed as (b) and (c) Metallurgical & Statement-II. Engineering Consultants India Ltd. (MECON) is providing pulverised coal Chinese companies have also injection technology on the basis of shown interest in entering into joint know-how from their licensor, MIs. Central ventures for development of iron ore Engineering and Research Incorporation, mines in India.

STATEMENT-I

State-wise production of Saleable Steel (including Alloy Steel)

('000 tonnes)

SI. State/Union Territories Production No. 1993-94 (Prov.)

1. Andhra Pradesh 1204.7

2. Arunachal Pradesh

3. Assam 4.2

4. Bihar 5522.1

5. Goa 5.2

6. Gujarat 56.3

7. Haryana 93.1

8. Himachal Pradesh

9. Jammu & Kashmir 43.5

10. Kamataka 269.0

11. Kerala 0.1 83 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 84

SI. State/Union Territories Production No. 1993-94 (Prov.)

12. Madhya Pradesh 3553.7

13. Maharashtra 565.6

14. Manipur

15. Meghalaya

16. Mizoram

17. Nagaland

18. Orissa 1152.7

19. Punjab 212.9

20. Rajasthan 39.8

21. Sikkim

22. Tamil Nadu 73.1

23. Tripura

24. Uttar Pradesh 106.2

25. West Bengal 1286.8

26. Andaman & Nicobar

27. Chandigarh 23.8

28. Dac;lra & Nagar Haveli

29. Daman & Diu

30. Delhi

31. Lakshadweep

32. Pondicheny 31.9

Total 14244.7

Additional estimated production from 1660.0 *EAFnF units for which State-wise break-up is not available.

Grand Total 15904.7

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[English] (a) whether the Government have , made any requests to some foreign LPG Connections in Thane District, countries to persuade Pakistan to work Maharashtra towards a bilaterally negotiated settlement to the outstanding issues between the two countries including Kashmir instead 1. SHRI RAM KAPSE: Will the of intemationalising the issue; and Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the names of such countries and their reaction thereto? (a) thE:: number of applications for LPG connections pending with LPG distributors in Thane district as on THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE December 31, 1993, with period 01 MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS pendency; (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) and (b). Government during the course of usual Ministerial, Offici&1 and Diplomatic (b) the present position in regard e)'changes with other countries have and to the allotment; and will continue to apprise them of Government's commitment to seek the (c) the steps taken to reduce the resolution of all differences with Pakistan period of pendency? peacefully and through bilateral negotiations within the framework of the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Simla Agreement. However, there can bE:: THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND no role of any sort for any third country. NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR i here is general appreCiation for India's SHARMA): (a) to (c). As on 31st stand in this regard. December, 1993, there were 2.46 lakhs of applicants on the waiting list in Thane Dumping of Plastic Bottles by district. the waiting period of new LPG Pepsi connections depends upon the number of persons on the waiting list with the 3. SHRI SAN AT KUMAR MANDAL: distributor, slack with the distributor and Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING aiso the annual programme for enrolment INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: of new customers. Efforts are constantly on to release LPG connections to as many applicants and as early as possible, (a) whether Plastic Pepsi bottles subject to product availability. New from the United States processed under connections are released depending on unsafe conditions are being dumped into the waiting lists and slacks available with India; the distributors. (b) whether such plastic bottles are Negotiated Settlement to Bilateral a health hazard; and issues with Pakistan (c) if so, measures proposed to be 2. SHRI SHIV SHARAN VERMA: taken by the Government to prevent Will :he Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS such potential health hazard to workers be pleased to state: and consumers? 91 Wriffen Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 92 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Working Group on Narcotics. THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING During Prime Minister's visit to INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): US in May, 1994, the two (a) No, Sir. countries signed a Memorandum of Understanding (b) and (c). Do not arise. on Cooperative Measures to Increase Awareness and Support for Efforts to Combat Agreement to Comb",t Terrorism Production and Distribution of Use of Illegal Drugs. 4. SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA GAVIT: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL (ii) India and Spain have issued a AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Joint Declaration on combating terrorism, drug trafficking and (a) whether India has signed organised crime in February, agreements to combat terrorism and 1993. check illicit traffic in narcotics with a number of countries; (iii) An India-Pakistan Committee to combat drug trafficking and (b) if so, the names of such smuggling was set up in countries; and December, 1986. This Committee has been meeting from time to time to review the (c) the extent to which the drug trafficking and smuggling Govemment has achieved success in situation in the two countries this regard? and explore ways to improve the modes of exchange of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE information. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) Yes, Sir. (iv) with Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrghyzstan and (b) India has signed agreements to Turkmenistan, India has signed combat terrorism and/or to check illicit a Declaration on Principles of traffic in narcotics with the following Cooperation, which contains an countries: article providing for cooperation, inter-alia in the fields of terrorism, illegal intemational Mauritius, Zambia, U.K., U.A.E., trade in narcotics, etc. Russia, Bulgaria, Romania, Myanmar. (c) Not many incidents have occurred, prompting intervention under In addition, the prOVisions of above agreements, etc. However, Indian drug enforcement (i) India and US actively cooperate agencies maintain direct linkages with to combat illegal narcotics other countries to check illicit narcotics trafficking through the trafftcking. Considerable success has been mechanism of the Indo-US Joint achieved by means of joint efforts. 93 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 94

International Islamic Conferences (a) whether the Government have received proposals for installation of 5. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: telephones at Panchayat Offices from Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS the Howrah Zilla Parishad; be pleased to state: (b) if so, when and the details of (a) the brief particulars of Panchayat Offices; International Islamic Conferences organised by Non-Governmental (c) the number of Panchayat Offices Organisations in which participants were in Howrah District provided with sponsored or financially assisted by the telephones so far and the details thereof; Government during 1991, 1992 and 1993; and

(b) the details of Indian participation, (d) the time by which the rest of if any; the Panchayats are likely to get telephone connections? (c) whether any resolutions or declarations bearing on mailers of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF interests to India were adopted at these THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS conferences; and (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) No, Sir. The Government is not aware of any such (d) if so, the operative part of those proposal from Howrah Zilla Parishad. resolutions and declarations? However, it has been planned to install telephone in the Panchayat Villages. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (b) The question does not arise in (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) to (d). The view of (a) above. information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. (c) 71 Panchayat Offices ilave been provided with teleph"ne facility so Telephone to Panchayats in far as per details given in the Statement- Howrah, West Bengal I and II.

6. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: Will (d) Public telephones are planned the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be to be provided to the remaining pleased to state: Panchayats by March, 1995: 95 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 96

STATEMENT·I

Panchayat offices in Howrah District under West Bengal Te!ecom provided with telephone

SI. Name Telephone Date of No. No. installation

1. Amaraguri Amta-302 20.12.93

2. Amta Amta-264 01.01.91

3. Antila Bagnan-215 16.10.92

4. Anulia Amta-284 01.12.93

5. Badyanathpur BGN-288 1509.92

6. Bagnan BGN-203 02.06.92

7. Bagnan II BGN-204 02.06.92

8. Bainar, BGN-253 02.09.92

9. Bakshirhat BGI'J-285 03.09.92

10. Balichak Amta-307 03.01.94

11. Bangalpara BGN-282 16.09.92

12. Bargachia JBPR-42 01.01.91

13. Basantapur KPPS-40 01.01.92

14. Bhandarghacha Amta-283 01.12.93

15. Bhatora BGN-293 13.09.92

16. Bidhichandrapur CP-35 01.04.93

17. Bonharishpur Amta-234 01.01.94

18. Chandrabhag BGN-216 10.08.92 97 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 98

SI. Name Telephonfl Date of No. No. installation

19. Dehimandalgat AUDH-34 01.01.92

20. Dehimandalgat II AUDH-32 01.01.92

21. Gangadharpur Gangadharpur-37 02.03.92

22. Garbariachitnan BGN-292 10.08.92

23. Garbhanipur CP-40 01.05.93

24. GobindapiJr JVPR-27 01.01.91

25. Hailyan BGN-2R3 02.08.92

26. Haturia BGN-290 05.08.92

27. Haturia II BGN-289 05.08.92

28. Jagatballavpur JVPR-31 01.01.91

29. Jaypur Amta-301 20.12.93

30. Jhamtia Amta-305 23.12.93

31. Jhikira Amta-287 15.12.93

32. Kalyanpur BGN-284 07.08.92

33. Kanpur KPPS-30 01-01.91

34. Kasmouli BGN-291 06.01.92

35. Khalna Amta-303 22.12.93

36. Khardaha Amta-306 17.01.94

37. Khalave Bagnan-214 10.07.92

38. Khosalpur Amta-285 02.12.93

39. Krishnabad Amta-288 17.12.93 99 Written Answe~ JULY 25, 1994 Written Answer.s 100

SI. Name Telephone Date of No. No. installation

40. Kurchi-Sibpur Udayanarayanapur-34 01.02.92

41. Mugkalyan 8agnan-281 12.09.92

42. Orphuli 8agnan-286 12.08.92

43. Panch ala Panchala-30 28.12.91

44. Pantihal Jagatballavpur-39 12.02.91

45. Rashpur Amta-286 02.07.91

46. Sankarhati Jagatballavpur-24 02.04.91

47. Saratchandra 8agnan-259 01.05.93

48. Subsit 8agnan-287 12.07.92

49. Tajpur Amta-304 22.12.93

50. Udang Amta-282 20.11.93 51. Siyampur F.,•• 2315 1 52. Dinghala Falta-2317 During 53. Kamalbar Falt.·231. J 1993-94 54. 8aneshar Falta-2307 101 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 102 STATEMENT-II

Panchayat Offices in Howrah District under Calcutta Telephones provided with telephone

Name of Gram Panchayat Pub. Ph. (Telephone No.1 Date of Opening)

1. Utta~hapardah 6690-008 Village & P.O. 30-08-93 Utta~hapardah

2. Domjur 3 6690-810 Village & P.O. 21-03-93 Domjur-3

3. Dakshin Jhapardah-2 6690-811 Village & P.O. 31-03-93 Dakshinjhapardah-2

4. Begri-2 6690-013 Village & P.O. Begri-2 10-09-93

5. Mohiary-4 6690-007 Village Uttar Mohiary 30-08-93 P.O. Mohiary-4

6. Makardah-I 3 6690-014 Village & P.O. Makardah 3 11-09-90

7. Bankra I 665-1897 Village & P.O. Bankra 3-03-93

8. Bankra II 665-1898 Village & P.O. Bankra 3-03-94

9. Durgapur Abhoynagar 64-1686 Village Durgapur 5-03-94 P.O. Samabaygali

10. Bally-Village Bally 64-2749 P.O. Ghoshpara (Bally) 23-03-94

11. Sapuipara Basukuthi 64-3842 Village & P.O. Sapuipara .30-05-94 103 Written AnswelS JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 104

Name of Gram Panchayat PUb. Ph. (Telephone No.1 Date of Opening)

12. Mashila 6690-015 Village & P.O. Mashila 11-09-93

13. Andul 6690-011 Village & P.O. Andul Mauri 11-09-93

14. Duillya 6690-016 Village Duillya 11-09-93 P.O. Andul Mouri

15. Jorehat 6690-017 Village & Kamrangh 11-09-93 P.O. Jorehat

16. Sankrail 6690-020 Village & P.O. Sankrail 28-02-94

17. Banipur 6690-019 Village & P.O. Banupur 24-01-94

Import of Crude Oil during 1991-92, 1992-93, and 1993-94 has been as under:- 7. SHRI BAPU HARI CHAURE: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Year Quantity (in MMT) NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

(aj the trend in the import of crude 1991-92 • 23.99 oil during the last three years, year-wise; 1992-93 • 29.25 (b) the quantum of crude oil to be imported during the current financial year; 1993-94 • 30.82 and • Provisional (c) the steps taken by the Govemment to increase the refining (b) The import of 24.23 MMT of capacity to save foreign exchange going crude oil for the year 1994-95 has been out of the country? envisaged.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (c) Efforts are being made to THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND increase relining capacity by taking up NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR expansion of existing refineries and by SHARMA): (a) The import of crude oil setting up of new grass root refineries in 105 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 1 06 the Public Sector, Joint Venture and Bridge over Bhutahi-Balan River Private Sector in order to reduce expenditure on import of products. 9. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT [Translation] be pleased to state:

Commemorative Postal Stamps (a) whether the traffic on the road running almost parallel to the Indo-Nepal border is disrupted and blocked in the 8. SHRI GOVINDRAO NIKAM: Will absence or a bridge over the river the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Bhutahi-Balan and the river Bagmati; and pleased to state: (b) if so, the action proposed to be (a) whether Ahmednagar taken by the Govemment in this regard? Quincentenary Committee had requested to issue a Commemorative Postage THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Stamp in memory of Rani Chand Bibi and THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE Ahmednagar Fort on the occasion of TRANSPORT (SHRI ,JAGDISH TYTLER): completion of 500 years of Ahmednagar (a) and (b). The road in question forms City and Fort; part of the State Road network. The Central Govemment is primarily concerned with the roads declared as National (b) if so, the reasons for not Highways only, including bridges thereon. accepting the request so far; and it is, therefore, not possible for the Central Government to take action in the (c) the time by which the matter. Commemorative Postage Stamps are likely to be released? [English]

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Diesel Based Power Plants in THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Kerala (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). A proposal was received from Shri Yashwant 10. SHRI MULLAPPALLY Rao Patil, M.P. Lok Sabha for release RAMCHANDRAN: Will the Minister of of a commemorative stamp to mark the POWER be pleased to state: 5th Centenary Year of Ahmednagar Fort & Chand Bibi. This was placed before the Philatelic Advisory Committe~ for its (a) whether the Union Government consideration on 1.1.5.92 & subsequently have proposals to set up diesel based it was examined by the sub-committee power plants in Kerala; of the Philatelic Advisory Committee. However, the proposal was not among (b) if so, the details thereof; those recommended.

(c) the details of estimated cost (c) Does not arise. thereof; and 107 Written AnswelS JULY 25, 19!:!4 Written AnswelS 108

(d) the time by which the work is RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) to (d). The likely to be started for implementation of following proposals have been reCeived those proposals? from the Kerala State Electricity Board (KSEB) for installation of Diesel THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Generating (DG) projects in Kerala:- MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V.

SI. Name of the Project Capacity Estimated cost No. (MW) including IDC (Rs. crores)

1. Brahamapuram DG District Ernakulam 5x20 281.00

2. Kasargode DG District Kasargode 3x20 178.00

3. Kozhikode DG District Kozhikode 6x20 357.00

The Brahmapuram DG Station has The construction work in respect of since been sanctioned by the Planning Kasargode and Koshikode DG Stations Commission for implementation in the could commence only after investment State Sector. The land for the project has approval by the Planning Commission been acquired and levelling work is in has been accorded and funding progress. The orders for the supply of arrangements for their implementation main plant and equipment have not been are tied up. placed on the supplier. (Translation] The proposal for DG Station at Kasargode was techno-economically Road Tax on Petroleum Products cleared by the Central Electricity Authority (CEA) in December, 1992. Subsequently, 11. SHRI BHAGWAN SHANKAR the KSEB decided to change the site for RAWAT: Will the Minister of SURFACE this project as the earlier site was within TRANSPORT be pleased to state: 500 metres of high tide line. The KSEB have been advised to submit a (a) whether the Government have supplementary report bringing out the taken any decision on the proposal of changiMI in the scheme due to change increasing the rates of road tax on in site. As regards Kozhikode DG Station petroleum products; and (120 MW), the CEA has not considered it for techno-economic appraisal as all (b) if not, the time by which a the essential inputs/clearances have not decision is likely to be taken in this been tied up by the State authorities. regard? 109 Written AnsweIS SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written AnsweIS 110

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE SHARMA): (a) The average utilisation of TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): natural gas in Gujarat at present is 14.8 (a) and (b). The road tax is levied on MMSCMD. Motor Vehicles by the State Govemments in accordance with the rules/regulations framed by them under State legislation. (b) The average daily consumption Presumably, the Hon'ble Member is of LPG in Gujarat was 731.95 MT in referring to the. resolution on augmentation 1993-94 (Provisional). of Central Road Fund adopted by Parliament on 13.5.88. However, the (c) Around 7.3 MMSCMD of natural resolution has not been implemented so gas is currently being processed for far. Since the decision in this regard is extraction of LPG. GAIL has proposed yet to be taken, it is too early to indicate setting of an LPG and C2IC3 extraction the time by which it would be up plant at Gandhar. implemented.

Utilisation of Natural Gas In (d) to (e). The production of free Gujarat gas is regulated according to the demand.

12. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Will the STO in Gutarat Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 13. SHRI GABHAJI MANGAJI THAKORE: Will the Minister of (a) the quantity of natural gas COMMUNICAnONS be pleased to state: being utilised at present in Gujarat especially in its tribal areas; (a) the names of the cities in Gujarat where only one way STD f~ (b) the average quantum of LPG Is available; and being used every day;

(b) the time by which incoming and (c) the quantum of natural gas outgoing STD facility is likely to be made being processed in LPG in the State and available in those cities? the various schemes of the Govemment to Increase the production of LPG; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (d) whether gas of the wells having THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) The names of no oil is covered and preserved; and stations in Gujarat provided one way STD are given in the Statement attached. (e) if so, the details thereof?

(b) Both way STD facility is THE MINISTER OF STATE OF proposed to be given to all these stations THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND progressively by December '94. 111 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 112

STATEMENT SI. Name of Stations No. STC In Gujarat

Ranavav List of Stations in Gujarat provided 18. one way sra as on 21.7.94 19. Aditygna

SI. Name of Stations 20. Chorwad No. 21. Sherbag 1. Nandej 22. Balva 2. Sadra 23. Jhulesan 3. Navagam 24. Santej 4. Matar 25. Dhenoj 5. Adas

6. Napad Electronic Exchanges in Rajasthan

7. Sandesar 14. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 8. Kanjari be pleased to state:

9. Lasundra (a) the details of electronic exchanges commissioned in Rajasthan 10. Tarapur during 1992-93 and 1993-94;

11. Liliya Mota (b) whether there is any proposal to .set up new exchanges in the State 12. Derol during 1994-95;

13. Nabipur (c) if so, the details thereof district- wise; 14. Budhel (d) whether the Government 15. Vejalpur propose to expand modernised telephone exchanges in Rajasthan during the 16. Gambhoi remaining period of the Eighth Five Year Plan; and \1. Sa\a\ (8) If so, \he detal\a In this regard. 113 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 114 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (e) During the remaining period of THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 8th Five Year Plan it is proposed to:- (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) 386 electronic exchanges were commissioned in (i) Expand the capacity of eXisting Rajasthan during 1992-93 and 368 during telephone exchanges so as to 1993-94. Detail are placed in the provide telephones on demand. Statement-I attached (ii) Replace all life expired and (b) Yes, Sir. worn out electro-mechanical exchanges.

(c) District-wise details are placed (iii) To replace all linefinder type in the Statement-II attached. MAX-II and Strowger type MAX-III electro-mechanical (d) Yes, Sir. exchanges by Electronic exchanges.

STATEMENT·'

Details of Electronics Exchanges commissioned during 1992-93 and 1993-94

Technology Year Year 1992-93 1993-94

Siemens

Siemens AS US 2

E-10S 2

C-DOT Max-I 3

C-DOT SSM 1400L 5

C-DOT SSM 1000L 15 2

C-DOT SSM 4241 2

ILT 512P 21

E.SAX 200L

C-DOT 256P 115 Written AnsW81S JULY 25, 1994 WrIfen AnsW8tS 118

Technology Year Year 1992-93. 1993-94 crOOT 128P 209 210

Milt 64P 122 146

Total 386 368

STATEMENT-II District No. of New Exchanges New Exchanges proposed to be set proposed up during 1994-95

(District-wise list) 14. Bikaner 04

District No. of New 15. Barmar 07 Exchanges proposed 16. Jaisalmer 03

1. Jaipur 16 17. Nagaur 05

2. Dausa 04 18. Churu 01

3. Alwar 01 19. Sriganganagar 08

4. Bharagpur 02 20. Jodhpur 02 5. Dholpur 01 21. Ajmer 05 6. Kota 02 22. Bhilwara 05 7. Baran 00 23. Chittorgarh 02 8. Jhalawar 01

24. Dandhara 01 9 .. Sikar 05

10. Jhunjhunu 03 25. Dungarpur 02

11. Sawaimadhopur 03 26. Udaipur 01

12. Dundi 02 27. Pajsamand 02

13. Tonk 00 28. Pall 04 117 Wrltf8n Answers SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 118

(c) the steps taken/proposed to be District No. of New taken by the Government in this regard? Exchanges proposed . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 29. Sirohi 04 (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) and (b). The time taken by a passport office for issue 30. Jalore 04 of passports varies from office to office and depends on a number of factors including the staff strength, workload, {English] office infrastructure and completion of prescribed procedures. Some offices are now taking less time for issue of passport Issue of Passports as compared to that before the increase in passport fee as shown in the enclosed 15. SHRI RAMESH CHENNI- Statement in July 1993. THALA: Will the Minister of EXTERNAl AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) Government have taken a number of steps to reduce the time taken (a) whether there is inordinate delay to issue passports which include inter- in getting passport even after the increase alia, augmentation of staff strength, in Passport fee; introduction of productivity-linked incentive scheme, periodic inspections and (b) if so, the details thereof, State- computerisation of passport offices in a wise; and phased manner.

STATEMENT

Time taken by each Passport Office to issue the passport

SI. Office Tune Tune No. taken in taken as of Dec '92 31.3.94

1. Ahmedabad 105 days 80 days

2. Bangalore 28 days 73 days

3. Barany 70 days 49 days

4. Bhopal 40 days 79daya

S. Bhubaneshwar 60 days 44 days

6. Bombay 50 days. 52 days 119 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 120

SI. Office Time Time No. taken in taken as of Dec '92 31.3.94

7. Calcutta 90 days 30 days

8. Chandigarh 270 days 291 days

9. Cochin 180 days 48 days

10. Delhi 70 days 24 days

11. Goa 40 days 32 days .

12. Guwahati 60 days 28 days .

13. Hyderabad 80 days 45 days

14. Jaipur 240 days 44 days

15. Jalandhar 270 days 106 days

16. Kozhikode 330 days 66 days

17. Lucknow 180 days 114 days

18. Madras 150 days 37 days

19. Nagpur 28 days 35 days

20. Patna 300 days 280 days

21. Trichy 300 days 50 days

22 . Trivandrum 240 days 35 days

• Time taken as of 4.2.1994

[Translation J (a) the number of LPG outlets run by women in the country as on date; LPG Outlets to Women

16. SHRI A. ASOKARAJ: Will the (b) whether any special exceptions Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL are granted to LPG outlets run by women; GAS be pleased to state: and 121 Written Answers SRAVANA 3, 1916.(SAKA) Written Answers 122

(c) whether school dropout women {English] are considered for these agencies? Privatisation of Oil fields THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND 18. SHRI RAMCHANDRA NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR VEERAPPA: Will the Minister of SHARMA): (a) As on 1.6.1994.780 LPG PETROLEUM AND !\JATURAL GAS be distributorships were being operated by pleased to state: women all over the country either on proprietorship basis or partnership basis. (a) whether the Government propose to privatise a number of small (b) No, Sir. sized oil fields in the country.

(b) if so, the details thereof; (c) As per present policy for dealer selection, there is no separate reservation for women. They can also apply in (c) the conditions laid down for the response to the advertisements if they privatisation of these oil fields and the meet the eligibility criteria. benefits likely to be derived as a result thereof; and

Branch Post Offices in Bihar (d) the manner in which the resettlement of the employees is to be 17. SHRI RAM KIRPAL YADAV: affected as a consequence thereof? Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (a) the number of new branch post NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR offices sanctioned in Bihar during 1993- SHARMA): (a) and (b). Govemment of 94 and the number of such offices India has in August. 1992 invited foreign opened out of them; and and Indian private companies to partiCipate in the development of 31 small sized oil and gas fields. (b) the number of such offices proposed to be opened during 1994-95? A further offer of 33 small sized fields was made in October, 1993. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (c) The fields would be developed (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) During 1993-94. under production sharing arrangements, 90 branch post offices were sanctioned by the companies on their own, without in Bihar and all the branch post offices any partiCipation by ONGC/OIL. have already been opened.

The parties would have to bear (b) The targets for opening of post their share of statutory levies likely royalty offices during 1994-95 have not yet been and cess. The private companies share finalised. of oil would be paid for at intemational 123 Written AnsW91S JULY 25, 1994 WtItten AnsMW 124 market price; pricing of gas produced and above are considered for setting up would be on intemationally accepted of LPG distributorships, in a phased principles; manner. Nahataur Town in District Bijnor (U.P.) has not been included in the The involvement of private current LPG Marketing Pian 1992-94. companies in oil production would bring quickly into the production stream Export of St... discovered hydrocarbons reserves in the country and augment the indigenous 20. SHRI SURENDRA PAL availability of petroleum, thereby PATHAK: Will the Minister of STEEL be conserving foreign exchange reserves. pleased to state:

(d) No employees of ONGC will be (a) the details of proposals under affected as a result of development of consideration of the Govemment for the these fields by Indian and foreign import and export of steel during the companies. current financial year;

[Translation] (b) the foreign exchange earned from export and spent on imports of .... LPG Distributorship In Nahataur, during the last three years; and Uttar Pradesh (c) the impact of new economic 19. DR. MUMTAZANSARI: Will the policy on the annual import and export Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL of steel? GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (a) whether the Govemment have THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI cleared applications for the allotment of SONTOSH MOHAN DEY): (a) As per the L.P .G. distributorship of Indian Oil current export-import policy, export and Corporation in Nahataur town located import of steel is freely allowed. Import under the Bijnor District of Uttar Pradesh; . of steel depends upon the specific and requirements of importers in order to supplement indigenous availabUity both In (c) If so, the details thereof? terms of quantity and quality. Export of steel depends upon the demand 11'1 the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF intemational market and the prevailing THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND international prices. NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) and (b). Subject to (b) The value of steel exports and economic viabHity and product availabUity, Imports during the last three years Is as IocIIIions having a population of 20,000 under:-

Y.... Exports Imports 1991-92 Rs. 283 crores As. 1360 crores 1992-93 As. 708 crores As. 1625 crores 1993-94 (Prov.) Rs. 1673 crores As. 1433 croree 125 Written Answets SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 12& (c) With the liberallsatlon of the to be finalised. This matter is presently trade policy including the facility for duty under consideration of the Govemment. free import of raw materials for exports, convertibility of the rupee etc. steel experts STATEMENT have increased from 3.87 lakh tonnes in 1991-92 to 22.21 lakh tonnes (prov.) in Details regarding present status of 1993-94. On the other hand steel imports Value Added Services have not shown an increasing trend. As far as Value Added Services (English) are concerned, tenders have been invited for franchising of Cellular Mobile Telephone Services in four metro cities, Value Added Services Radio Paging Service in 27 cities in the first phase and for the rest of the country 21. SHRI HARISH NARAYAN in the second phase from Indian PRABHU ZANTYE: Will the Minister of registered companies on a non-exclusive COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: basis. The Indian Companies are required to have experience in. the operation of these services and in case they do not (a) whether the Government have have such experience they can have a finalised plan for value added services joint venture company with a foreign like paging and electronic mail services company having the requisite experience to be introduced all over the country; with equity participation in the joint venture. (b) if so, the details regarding the present status of the same; 2. Proposals have also been invited for franchising of other Value Added Services on a non-exclusive basis. (c) whether guidelines for new Proposals for these services are being Telecom Policy have been finalised, if so, received and examined on a continuous the details thereof; and basis. Only Indian registered companies are eligible for consideration. (d) the implications thereof in terms of extension of networ1< in rural and semi- 3. The present status of these rural areas with State-wise break-up. services is as follows:

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (a) Cellular Mobile Telephone THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Service: (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. 8 companies, 2 for each metro city of Bombay, Delhi, Calcutta and Madras (b) Details regarding the present have been provisionally selected. Some status of the Value Added Services are of the companies have approached the . given in the enclosed Statement. Court of Law. The matter is sub-judice in the Supreme Court. The hearings in (c) and (d). Guidelines for the case are over and judgment is implementation of T eJecom Policy are yet awaited. 127 Written AnswelS JULY 25; 1994 Writt9n Answers 128

(b) Radio Paging Service: matter is also sub-judice in the Court of Delhi and there is no stay. In the first phase of tender 15 companies have been issued letters of In the second phase of tender, the intent, out of which Seven Companies evaluation is under progress. have signed the licence agreement. The

(c) Others Value Added Services:

Service Proposals Letters of Under Remarks received intent issued. examination.

E-Mail 19 @ 14 5 @ includes 3, who have Signed LA.

Voic€ Mail 4 3

64 Kbps Data 9 7 2 Service

Audiotex 3 3

Video Conferencing

Others 3 3

Total 39 @ 24 15

Lead Free Diesel price of diesel, if any, due to this change; and 22. SHRI RAM NAIK: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (c) the time by which the lead free GAS be pleased to state: diesel is likely to be made available in the rural areas?

(a) whether the Government have THE MINISTER OF STATE OF decided to sell diesel containing less than THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND 0.5 percent lead, from April 1, 1996; NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) No, Sir. (b) if so, the international standard of lead in the diesel, and the rise in the (b) and (c). Do not arise. 129 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 130 [Translation] {English]

Business Channel Indian Council for World Affairs

23. SHRI RAM SINGH 24. DR. AMRIT LAL KALIDAS KASHWAN: PATEL: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL SHRI PRABHU DAYAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: KATHERIA: SHRI M.v.V.S. MURTHY: (a) whether the Govemment have SHRI RAJENDRA AGNI- received any representation for taking HOTRI: over the management of the Indian SHRI HARISH NARAYAN Council for World Affairs; PRABHU ZANTYE: SHRI SULTAN SALAHUD- (b) if so, the details thereof; DIN OWAISI: (c) whether the Govemment are Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- aware of the deterioration in the working TIONS be pleased to state: conditions and salary of staff in the council; (a) whether the Government propose to start a special postal service (d) if so, the steps taken by the 'Business Channel'; and Govemment in this regard;

(e) whether the Government (b) if so, the details thereof and the propose to take various measures time by which it is likely to be started? including possibility of introducing any Bill in Parliament for taking over the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF management of the council; and THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. (f) if so, the details thereof and the time by which these measures are likely to be implemented? (b) The Business Channel has been introduced with effect from 1st July, '94 in 6 important cities of the country viz THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta, Madras, MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Bangalore & Hyderabad. The scheme (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) Yes, Sir. envisages segregation of business mails posted in post offices or in mail offices (b) The ICWA Employees Trade across the counter in bulk by various Union have, from time to time, been organisations at the stage of collection, representing the Govemment for taking sorting & transmission, such segregation over the management of the Indian will help in streamlining the functioning Council of World i\ffairs. of mail offices and in the process it will ensure better disposal not only of the (c) The representations received mails posted in bulk but also the other from ICWA Employees Trade Union mails. contained such reports. 131 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answel3 132

(d) The Indian Council of World resources for the capacity addition Affairs is an autonomous body and programme in the electricity sector Govt. Government of India has no control over formulated a policy in 1991 to encourage its management. As such , it is not in greater participation by privately owned a position to take any steps in this enterprises in the electricity generation, regard. supply and distribution.

(e) and (f). As a policy, Govemment (b) The details of the policy are is not in favour of taking over of given in the enclosed Statement. The autonomous bodies. However, the reasons for introdUCing the policy was Government has decided to constitute a the widening gap between electricity high-powered committee to oversee the demand and supply and severe resource functioning of the Indian Council of World crunch faced by the State ElectriCity Affairs. However, as the Council is an Boards and Central and State Sector autonomous body, the Govemment can Generating Corporations. constitute such a committee only with its consent. Presently, the governing body STATEMENT of the ICWA is being persuaded to pass a resolution requesting the Govemment to constitute this high-powered committee. Guidelines of the policy to encourage Once this committee is constituted, it can greater private investments in power also look into allegation, demands and generation and distribution to tap complaints of ttoe staff. additionality of resources

The following are the details of the {TranslationJ scheme to encourage greater private sector participation in the electricity Power Sector generation, supply and distribution:-

25. SHRI SA TV A DEO SINGH: Will The Indian Electricity Act, 1910. the Minister of POWER be pleased to and the Electricity (Supply) Act, state: 1948 have been amended to bring about a new legal, administrative and financial environment for private (a) whether any decision has been enterprises in the Electricity Sector. taken to hand over various power projects to the domestic and foreign companies; and Private Sector can set up thermal projects (coal/gas) and hydel projects and wind/solar energy (b) if so, the details with reasons project of any size. therefor? Electricity Projects where the total THE MINISTEA OF STATE IN THE outlay does not exceed As. 2S MINISTRY OF POWEA (SHAI P.V. crores need not be submitted to RANGAVYA NAIDU): (a) With the the Central ElectricIty Authority for obfective of bringing in addItionaIIty of concurrence. 133 Written AnswsI5 SAAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written AnsWBI5 134 • Private sector companies can set to 20% and this rate has also been up enterprises to operate either as extended to machinery required for licensees or as generating modemisation and renovation of companies. power plants.

• All private companies entering the A five year tax holiday has been Electricity Sector hereafter will be allowed in respect of profits and allowed a debt-equity ratio upto gains of new industrial undertakings 4:1. set up anywhere in India for either generation or generation and Promoter's contribution should be distribution of power. The five year at least 11 % of the total outlay. tax holiday will begin from the year of generation of power. To ensure that private entre- preneurs being in additionality of The excise duty on a large number resources to the sector, not less of capital goods and instruments in than 60% of the total outlay for the the power sector has been reduced project must come from sources to a lower rate. other than Public Financial Institu- tions. The 16% return on the foreign Upto hundred per cent (100% equity included in the tariff can be foreign equity participation can be provided in the respective foreign permitted for projects set up by currency. foreign private investors. Fixed costs can be recovered at The condition of dividend balancing 68.5% PLF. Attractive incentives by export earnings which is normally are prescribed for performance being applied to cases of foreign beyond this PLF. investment upto 51 % equity will not be applicable to foreign investments in the power sector. For generating companies the following incentives are offered:-

• The rates for depreciation in respect of assets have been liberalised. Normative parameters under which generating companies will operate With the approval of the have been notified which inter alia Govemment, import of equipment provide for 16% rate of return on for power projects will also be the paid up and subscribed equity. permitted in cases where foreign supplier(s) or ageney(ies) extend Generating companies operating concessionaI credit. coal based, gas based and hydro projects can sell power on the The customs duty for import for basis of a suitably structured two power equipment has been reduced part tariff. 135 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 136

The specific incentives for Licensees Selection Boards were terminated on are: March 2, 1994, as the functioning of the Boards was not found satisfactory. Six Licences of longer duration of 30 out of the seven Oil Selection Boards for years in the first instance and the undermentioned States have since subsequent renewals of 20 years been reconstituted: instead of 20 and 10 years respectively as it was before. 1. Bihar

Higher rate of retum of 5% in place 2. Haryana of the previous 2% above the RBI rate. 3. Kamataka

Capitalisation of Interest During 4. Maharashtra, Goa, Daman & Diu Construction (IDC) at actual cost (for expansion projects also) as 5. Punjab against 1% over RBI rate as it was before. 6. Uttar Pradesh

Special appropriations to meet debt (c) As per existing policy, Oil redemption obligation. Selection Boards are constituedl reconstituted as under: (English] (i) A retired Judge of a High Court - Chairman Oil Selection Boards

(ii) A representative of 26. DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA: SC/ST/other - Member Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND weaker soctions NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (iii) A prominent public (a) the names of States where new figure - Member Oil Selection Boards have been formed so far: Abattoirs

(b) the reasons for changing the 27. DR. P.R. GANGWAR: Will the old Oil Selection Board; and Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: (c) the criteria followed by thE> Govemment to form the new Oil Selection (a) whether Govemment have given Boards? approval for the setting up of new abattoirs In the country during the Eighth THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Five Year Pian; THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR (D) if so, the amount allocated SHARMA): (a) and (b). The tenure of therefor and other details In this regard; Chairman and Members of seven Oil and 137 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 138

(c) whether the Government (d) The time by which this target propose to close down the existing is likely to be achieved? abattoirs in view of public protest? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Total number of INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): direct exchange lines as on 31-3-91 was (a) and (b). Permission to set up abottoirs 50,74,734. is given by the State Governments under the provision of the concemed State (b) Total number of direct exchange Governments. lines as 31-3-94 is 80,37,384. The increase of direct exchange lines from Various schemes to provide 31-3-91 to 31-3-94 being 29,62,650. assistance for modernisation and improvement of abattoirs and for (c) Based on Annual Plan 1994-95 integrated meat processing plants have 14 Lakh DELs are to be provided. been formulated and are operated by the Department of Animal Husbandry & (d) The above target of DELs is Dairying (Ministry of Agriculture) and planned to be achieved by 31-3-95. Ministry of Food Processing Industries. The total assistance released under various schemes of both the ministries [English} is Rs. 10.2 crores in 1992-93 and 1993- 94 Rs. 13.6 crores have been allocated Excess Billing in Delhi for 1994-95. 29. SHRI SHANTARAM (c) Does not arise. POTDUKHE: DR. LAL BAHADUR RAWAL: [Translation] SHRI RAJVEER SINGH: SHRI SURENDRA PAL Direct Exchange Lines PATHAK:

28. SHRIMATI KRISHNENDRA Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- KAUR (Deepa): Will the Minister of TIONS be pleased to state: COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (a) the number of complaints (a) the total number of direct recorded for excess billing in MTNL, exchange lines set up till 1991; Delhi during 1993-94 and 1994-95 (so far);

(b) the total number of such lines (b) the action taken by the .et up by the end of 1993-94; Government thereon; and

(c) the target fixed in this regard (c) the steps taken to ensure the for 1994-95; and correct billing to the customers? 139 Written AnsweIs JULY 25, 1994 Written AnswenJ 140 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF All DPs, pillars are put under lock, THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS to avoid misuses by any unscrupulous (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) The number of person. Entry to the exchanges has been excess billing complaints received during restricted. 1993-94 and 1994-95 (upto June, 1994) is as under.- Vigilance unit also conducts surprise checks with regard to possible misuse or diversion of line. Year No. of complaints

Roads in Gujarat 1993-94 11,581 30. DR. K.D. JESWANI: Will the 1994-95 3,124 Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be (upto June' 94) pleased to state:

(b) The complaints of Excess Billing (a) the details of on-going road is examined thoroughly from all aspects construction works in Gujarat sanctioned including clerical and technical faults as by the Union Govemment under Central per laid down procedure. In case of Road Fund; clerical error the bill is corrected immediately. In other cases, the fault (b) the details and estimated costs records, exchange equipment and the involved therein; outdoor plant are checked. The subscriber's calling pattem is also verified (c) the funds allocated by the with reference to his previOUS record and Govemment for these schemes; the observation report.

(d) whether the complete amount After considering all these aspects has been sanctioned by the Union a decision is taken on the complaint and Govemment; and suitable rebate is allowed to the subscriber, if found justified. (e) if not, the time by when the balance is likely to be released? (c) Besides issue of bills on computer, following steps have been THE MINISTER OF STATE OF taken to reduce the incidence of excess THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE billing ·complaints. TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTlER): (a) and (b). A Statement indicating the on-going works in Gujarat sanctioned Subscribers having STDIISD under Central Road Fund is given in the facilities are brought on electronic enclosed Statement. exchanges to the extent possible, which provides dynamic STOll SO locking facility. (c) and (d). Allocation of funds is done every year in lump-sum and not Indoor equipment and outdoor work-wise taking into account the total plants are regularly checked to ensure cost of schemes approved for the State, that there is no technical fault. total funds released previously, inter-se 141 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 142 priority on All India basis, requirements to Gujarat for on-going works under projected by State and availability of Central Road Fund during the last five budget provision. However, funds released years are as under:-

(Rs. in Jakhs)

1989-90 100.00

1990-91 150.00

1991-92 60.00

1992-93 70.00

1993-94 80.00

(e) Since release of funds under to indicate the time by when balance Central Road Fund depends upon the would be released. availability of budget provision, it is difficult

STATEMENT

SI. Name of works Date of Amount approved No. sanction under C.R.F. (Rs. in Jakhs)

2 3 4

ROAD WORKS

1. Establishing District Lab. 27.10.83 17.00 (Testing) at 10 places

2. Traffic Engineering Cell 13.1.86 30.12

3. Establishing RlLab and 6.3.86 11.75 Development Cell

4. Widening to intermediate 15.1.87 50.00 Lane of Uchhel-Nisar Road (35 Km) 143 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 144

2 3 4

5. Construction of Turing lanes 14.5.87 11.50 and Developing Rests areas on State Highways on Five places

6. Studies relating to Traffic 14.5.87 14.00 Volumes, Accidents Prone areas Partting Stoping Locations & Reconstruction for Temporary Safety & Capacity of High in 10 selected Heavily routes.

7. Widening to 2-lane of Unkhade 14.7.87 50.00 Lindi-Checklia road in selected 15 Kms (99.85 KM to 145 KM)

8. Widening to 4-lanes carriageway 14.7.87 65.00 on Ahmedabad-Mehsana road in Gujarat (selected 12 KM)

9. Construction of a para"el 28.2.92 98.67 service road on Ahmedabad bypass from Km 6/0 to 131230

BRIDGE WORKS

10. Construction of bridge and its 19.6.80 40.00 approaches across river Folku and diversion near Dhangadhra on Ahmedabad-Viramgan-Dhangadhra road in Surendemagar District.

11 . Construction of bridge with 15.4.87 14.71 approaches across river Shihan on Jamnagar-Khanbhlia-Davartta Road.

[Translation] (a) whether the Union Government have received proposal from the Oil Refineri.. in Maharashtra and Government of Maharashtra and Madhya Madhya Pradesh Pradesh for setting up of oil refineries in respective States; and 31. SHRI DATTA MEGHE: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (b) if so, the decision taken by the GAS be pleased to state: Union Government in this regard? 145 Written Answers SRAVAHA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 146

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (g) if not, the extent to which THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND maintenance worK has been c;anied aut NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR by the Government in Delhi during last SHARMA): (a) and (b). Government of six months? India has accorded 1st Stage approval to MIs Hindustan Petroleum Corporation THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Ltd. (HPCL and Mis. Bharat Petroleum THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Corporation Ltd. (BPCL) for preparing a (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). As per Detailed Feasibility Report for setting up National Telecom Policy, telephones are of.6 MMTP A grassroot refineries in Joint to be made available on demand by end Sector in Western India and Central India of year 1997. respectively. The locations of the above proposed refineries have been decided (c) Yes Sir. at Deoghar, .District Ratnagi ri, Maharashtra and Bina, Dis~rict Sagar, (d) No Sir. Madhya Pradesh respectively.

(e) The minimum time consumed Telephone Connections in Delhi is a few days. The maximum time cannot be ascertained as some telephones have 32. SHRI NITISH KUMAR: Will the not been installed due to area being Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be technically not feasible. pleased to state: (f) and (g). No Sir, However due (a) whether the Government have to large provision of telephone congestion fixed the targets to release telephone was encountered on a few exchange connections immediately on demand in routes due to higher traffic than Delhi State; anticipated at Planning stage. The number of .junctions on such inter exchanges (b) if so, the time by which this routes showing congestion are augmented target is likely to be achieved; suitably.

(c) whether a large number of [Translation] telephone connections were released in Delhi during the first three to four months Replacement of Gas Cylinders of the year 1994; 33. SHRI B.l. SHARMA PREM: (d) if so, whether all sanctioned Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND telephones have since been installed; NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

(e) the minimum and maximum (a) whether the leaking gas cylinders are not replaced by the concemed oil time consumed in the installation of these telephones; company whereas the gas dealers have to give replacement for the leak gas cylinders to consumers; and (f) whether the level of maintenance has declined due to increase in the (b) if so, the reasons therefor? number of telephones; and 147 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 148

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) (1) Bhopal, (2) SHARMA): (a) and (b). As per the Bhilai, (3) Gwalior, (4) Indore, (5) Raipur, ;lresent policy, distributors are under (6) Rewa, (7) Sagar and (8) Satna have instructions to weigh and also to check a waiting list of more than one thousand for leakage, each and every cylinder, in M.P. before delivery to customers. Any leaky cylinders found at the time of inspection (b) and (c). The Telecom Policy before delivery by distributors are to be 1994 envisages the provision of retumed to supply pOint for which full telephones practically on demand by reimbursement provided by oil company. 1.4.1997 all over the country. During 1994-95 it is proposed to provided 57000 In regard to leaky cylinders found new telephone connections in Madhya at the customers' premises during use, Pradesh. the same are replaced by new cylinder against free replacement or proportionate (d) and (e). Yes, Sir. During compensation. 1994-95 it is proposed to add 91,600 Switching lines in Madhya Pradesh out Telephone Connections in M.P. of which 2000 lines are proposed in Ullain.

34. SHRI SATYANARAYAN JATIYA: Will the Minister of (f) Question does not arise. COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: Telephone Exchanges with S.T.D. (a) the places in Madhya Pradesh where the number of applicants on the 35. DR. LAL BAHAOUR waiting list is more than one thousand RAWAL: as on June, 1994; SHRI RAJVEER SINGH:

(b) the measures taken to clear the Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- waiting list; TIONS be pleased to state:

(a) the number of telephone (c) the time by which telephone exchanges in the country selected for connections are likely to be provided; Hnking with STD facility during the last two years; (d) whether the Gcvernment propose to expand the telephone (b) the number of telephon. exchanges in the State particularty In exchanges out of them linked with thll Ujain; facility partlcularty In State of Uttar Pradesh; and (e) if so, the details thereof; and (c) the number of places which are (f) if not, the reasons therefor? proposed to be linked with STD facility? 149 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answen; 150

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF without telephone facility are 2,748 and THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 323 respectively. (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) 2496 stations were proposed for provision of S.T.D. (b) By March, 1995 all such facility during the last two years namely Panchayats are likely to be provided with viz. 92-93 & 93-94. this facility.

(b) A total of 3475 stations have Collaboration with Foreign been connected to the STD network Companies during the last two years. However, some of the stations planned have not yet been 37. SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES: linked to the STD network due to Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS constraints in respect of availability of be pleased to state: funds equipments, land, building etc.

(a) the norms followed by various In Uttar Pradesh 112 stations have countries to collaborate with foreign been linked to the STD network during companies in their domestic telecom 92-93 & 93-94. sector;

(c) 1294 stations are proposed to (b) whether the United States does be linked to the STD network during 94- not permit more than 20% foreign equity 95 subject to availability of resources in the domestic telecom sector; such as funds, equipment, land, building etc. (c) whether the Union Government propose to allow high equity holding by {English] foreign companies in the Indian telecom sector in view of the above facts; and Telephone in Panchayats in West Bengal (d) if so, the details thereof?

36. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE OF the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS pleased to state: (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Details in respect of some of the countries are given in (a) the number of Anchal Panchayat Statement attached. offices in West Bengal with and without telephone facility, separately; and (b) The information is being collected and will be placed on the Table (b) the time by which all the Anchal of the House. Panchayats are likely to be provided with such facility? (c) and (d). In the Indian Telecom manufacturing sector, proposals with upto THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 51 % foreign equity are allowed on THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS automatic approval basis. Proposals for (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) As on 30.06.1994, foreign equity in Telecom Value Added the numbers of such offices with and Services sector and proposals for more 151 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 152

than 51% foreign equity in the telecom within 10 years of grant of licence, i.e., ml:mufacturing sector are considered on by 2003. case by case basis by the Government. Norms for equity holding by foreign 3. Srilanka: companies in the Basic telecom services which has been permitted to Indian Foreign investments in Telecom registered companies under the National sector upto 40% are approved on Telecom Policy announced on 13.5.94 automatic basis and foreign investment are yet to be finalised. above 40% are subject to case by case approval. STATEMENT 4. Myanmar: Norms for collaboration with foreign companies Mayanmar Foreign Investment law does not allow foreign investment, 1. Indonesia: including joint collabortion{joint ventures, in telecommunications sector, which Under the liberalised regulations remains a total monopoly of Myanmar announced by the Government of Posts and Telecommunications, a State- Indonesia on 2.6.94, foreign investment owned enterprise, However, multinational upto 95% is permissible in Telecom. The companies, such as Ericsson and minimum equity holding for Indonesia Siemens are awarded contracts for partner which was earlier 20% was projects in the telecommunications sector reduced to 5%. in Myanmar from time to time.

2. Australia: 5. Germany:

There are no restnctions on the So far Telecom Sector has been foreign ownership for ·Service Providers" a govemment monopoly. A new Law in Telecom which can be owned upto providing for privatisation of Telecom. 100% by foreign companies. 'Service has been passed. This Law will come Providers' are entities which lease telecom into force from 1.1.1995. Under this law capacity from Licensed carriers and Govemment corporation 'Telecom' will provide full range of Telecom services offer 49% of its equity on the stock including Voice Services. exchange from 1996 onwards retaining 51%. There will be no restrictions for However, Australia has permitted participation by foreign companies in two general carriers, one with 100% telecom service. Govt. ownership and other with 51% Australian ownership. In addition, there 6. France: are three Mobile carriers one with 100% Govemment ownership, 2nd with 51% In France, regulatory framewor1< of Australian ownership and third with 1000k the French telecommunication industry .- foreign ownership. In the case of third governed by their law of December, 90. Ucensed company for mobile carrier, the Under telecommunication network 100% foreign ownership is required to be infrastructure, a company with more than changed to majority Australian ownership 20% of the registered capital or voting 153 Written Answef5 SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answef5 154 rights held directly or indirectly by foreign (c) the reasons for delay in giving nationals other than those belonging to clearance; and European Community cannot be granted licences to participate in the domestic (d) the time by which the project telecommunication sector in France. is likely to be cleared? Similarly, telecommunication services pertaining to telephone services between fixed pOints and telex services have been THE MINISTER OF STATE OF reserved for the public telecommunication THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI operator-France Telecom-only. SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) to (d). One proposal of Mis. Ashiana Alloys & 7. Singapore: Steels Ltd. for grant of industrial licence for manufacture of Mild Steel Ingots & Steel Castings for an annual capacity of In Singapore, foreign participation 13,500 Metric Tonnes at Digha Ghat. in basic telecom services is not permitted Patna, Bihar was received in June, 1994. al present. In the Value Added services, The proposal has already been examined there is no foreign participation restriction and an appropriate communication will and each case is considered on case by be issued shortly to the applicant. case basis.

Siliguri-Darjeeling Section 8. Vietnam:

39. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- In the are of domestic JEE: Will the Minister of SURFACE telecommunication services in Vietnam, TRANSPORT be pleased to state: foreign equity participation is not permitted. Involvement of foreign companies is the form of contractual (a) whether Government are aware business cooperation without equity that there are frequent landslides on the participation is allowed. For manufacture road connecting Siliguri to Da~eeling; of telecommunication equipment equity participation of upto 99% (but in practice (b) if so, whether Government only upto 70%) is permitted. propose to declare it as a National Highway; and Clearance for Steel Plant in Bihar

(c) if not, the reasons therefor? 38. SHRI MOHAMMAD ALI ASHRAF FATMI: Will the Minister of STEEL be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) whether any proposal for the (a) to (c). Road between Siliguri and setting up of a steel plant in Bihar has Darjeeling is already a National Highway. been lying pending with the Union It is occasionally affected by landslides Government; during rains. Immediate steps are taken to remove slips and to keep the road (b) if so, the details thereof; traffic-worthy. 155 Written Answe,;s JULY 25, 1994 Written Answe,;s 156

[Translation] 1991-92, 1992-93 and 1993-94, district- wise; and

Telephone to Gram Panchayats in (b) the total expenditure incurred Gujarat thereon?

40. SHRI CHHITUBHAI GAM IT: THE M:NISTER OF STATE OF Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Distric-wise details of such Gram Panchayats are given in the Statement attached. (a) the number of the Gram Panchayats in Gujarat provided with (b) The total expenditure incurred Telephone facility during 1990-91, is about Rs. 84 crores.

STATEMENT

Details of Gram Panchayats District-wise, provided with telephone facility in Gujarat

District 1990-91 1991-92 1992-93 1993-94

Ahmedabad 2 58 194 126

Gandhinagar 7 19

Baroda 31 47 323

Rajkot 3 89 35 231

Sural 188 27 127

Nadiad 116 266 344

Bhavnagar 3 46 78 160

Bhuj 5 46 85 158

Jamnagar 22 106 121

Junagadh 3 69 61 175

Mehsana 242 145 244 157 Written Answers SAAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 158

District 1990-91 1991-92 1992-93 1993-94

Valsad 2 111 63 134

Himatnagar 2 99 182 190

Palanpur 6 109 129 206

Surendranagar 6 92 55 295

Bharuch 5 48 153 183

Godhra 82 27 277

Amreli 121 83 75

Dang

Union Territory 2

Total 38 1576 1755 3370

[Eng/ish] (c) if so, whether the Government have made any assessment as to how Spillage of Oil much coral reef disaster is occuring in the country every year; 41. SHRI M.V.V.S. MURTHY: (d) the steps taken to check spillage SHRI BOLLA BULLI of oil in the country; and RAMAIAH:

(e) the various factors responsible Will the Minister of PETROLEUM for this oil spillage? AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (a) whether thousands of tonnes of NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR oil h'as spilled over either through SHARMA): (a) to (e). The information is accidents or washing of large tankers or being collected and will be laid on the during transfer of oil at ports every week; table of the House.

(b) if so, whether there was spillage Koel-Karo Hydel Project of huge quantity of all contaminating resort beaches on the Atlantic coast 42. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: when a barge slammed into a coral reef Will the Minister of POWER be pleased of San Juan; to state: 159 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 160

(a) the details of the schemes of (b) if so, the details thereof; and the Union Government for the implementation of the Koel-Karo Hydel (c) the time by which the Project in Bihar and the extent to which agreements are likely to be implemented? the Commitment has been fulfilled;

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) whether the Union Govemment have not made efforts for the execution THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND of the project; and NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) to (c). At the conclusion of the recent visit of Minister of State for (c) if so, the reasons therefor? Petroleum and Natural Gas to China, agreed minutes were Signed between the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. and China National Petroleum Corporation RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) to (c). In envisaging cooperation in the oil sector. December, 1993, Govemment of India had suggested to the Government of Bihar to explore the possibility of execution Coal Production by liSCO of the project through private participation since the current resource pOSition of 44. PROF. RITA VERMA: Will the NHPC did not enable it to start work Minister of STEEL be pleased to state: immediately on the project. The Govemment of Bihar however requested (a) the quantity of S.L.V. and the Govt. of India to provide funds or seggregated Jhama Coal produced by direct NHPC to arrange funds from Ramnagore Chasnalla, Jitpur Collieries of external agencies. It is not possible within Indian Iron and Steel Company (liSCO) the existing plan allocation for the 8th during 1991-92, 1992-93 and 1993-94; Plan to provide funds for speedy execution of the project. Also extemal funds even if available, normally cover only a part (b) the month-wise details of sales of the project cost. of seggregated Jhama and S.L.V. Coal in each of these collieries during 1993- [Translation] 94; and

Indo-China Agreement (c) the opening stock of S.L.V. and seggregated Jhama Coal in all the three 43. SHRI ARVIND TRIVEDI: collieries of liSCO as on March 31, SHRI JANARDAN MISRA: 1994? SHRI SHRAVAN KUMAR PATEL: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI Will the Minister of PETROLEUM SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) The AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to quantity of Segregated Low Value (S.L.V.) state: and segregated Jhama Coal produced by Ramnagore, Chasnalla & Jltpur CoUIeries (a) whether India and China have of Indian Iron and Steel Company Ud. entered into any agreement in the field (liSCO) for the yeara 1991-92, 1992-83 of oil recently; and 1993-94 Is given below: 161 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 162 UNIT: METRIC TONNES

Year Ramnagore Chasnalla Jitpur

1991-92 1,33,309 NIL NIL

1992-93 1,82,661 NIL NIL

1993-94 1,28,285 17,331 NIL

(b) The details of month-wise sales of segregated Jhama/S.L.V. coal during 1993- 94 are as under:

UNIT: METRIC TONNES

Month Ramnagore Chasnalla Jitpur Quantity Sold

April '93 6925.400 NIL NIL

May '93 5723.060 NIL NIL

June '93 3520.980 NIL NIL

July '93 273.060 NIL NIL

August '93 942.140 NIL NIL

September '93 11196.880 NIL NIL

October '93 18969.720 NIL NIL

November '93 14406.560 NIL NIL

December '93 11180.120 1116.20 NIL

January '94 11110.380 1998.48 NIL february '94 10303.700 2547.60 NIL

March '94 14240.920 1491.58 NIL

Total 108792.920 7153.86 163 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 164

(c) The opening stock of S.L.V. and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF segregated Jhama Coal as on 31.3.94 THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND is given below: NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) Oil Industry (Development) Act, 1974, provides for a levy of cess Chasnalla Ramnagore Jitpur on indigenous crude oil and natural gas as a duty of excise, to be credited to 10,053 53,455 NIL the Consolidated Fund of India, and the Central Govemment may, if Partiament [English] by appropriation made by law in this behalf so provides, pay to the Oil Industry Development Board from time to time Oil Development Cess from out of such proceeds such sums of money as it may think fit for being 45. SHRI MOHAN .RAWALE: utilised exclusively for the purposes of SHRIMATI BHAVNA this Act, viz. for the development of Oil CHIKHALlA: Industry, and for matters connected SHRIMATI SHEELA therewith. GAUTAM: (b) Since the inception of the Act Will the Minister of PETROLEUM and upto March. 1994, the Oil industry AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to Development board has provided loan state: assistance of Rs. 5175.00 crores to the oil industry to supplement its resources (a) the objectives behind levying for meeting capital and operational the Oil Development Cess; requirements. During this period, grants- in-aid to the tune of Rs. 93.11 crores were also disbursed for oil sector activities. (b) the extent to which these objectives have been achieved; (c) The present rate of levy of cess on crude oil is Rs. 900.00 per tonne. (c) the present rate at which the Oil Development Cess is being levied; (d) As on 31.3.94, the total accumulation in the Oil Industry (d) the total amount at present in Development Fund is Rs. 3007 crores. the Oil Development Cess Fund; (e) This amount has been utilised for funding capital and operational (e) the purpose for which the requirements of the oil industry. Part of amount collected has been utilised in the past; these funds has also been used for extending soft term loans and grants-in- aid for research and development activities (f) whether it is proposed to provide of relevance to the oil industry. this amount to the Oil Industry Development Board; and (f) and (g). As per Section 16 of Oil Industry (Development) Act, 1974, (g) If so, the details thereof? the Central Govemment may pay to the 165 Written Answers SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 166 Board such sums of money as the (d) the action taken against the Central Government may consider operators of those buses? necessary. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE Inter State Bus Service TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) and (b). No, Sir. However, the Govemment of National Capital Territory 46. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR of Delhi have informed that temporary SHASTRI: Will the Minister of SURFACE permits are issued to Contract Carriage TRANSPORT be pleased to state: buses under Section 87 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988 for going outside (a) whether parallel inter-State bus Delhi. Further they have also informed service to Hardwar, Rishikesh, Dehradun, that any violation of the terms of the Mussoorie, Agra, Jaipur, Jammu, Katra permit conditions, are checked by their etc. are being operated regularly from Enforcement Wing. different parls of Delhi; (c) and (d). The Govemment of National Capital Territory of Delhi have (b) whether these buses are plying further _informed that they do not maintain in utter violation of the Motor Vehicle Act, separate data about challans made for 1988; different type of vehicles for violation of the Motor Vehicles Rules. However, the data furnished by them in respect of the (c) the number of buses booked for challans made for all types of vehicies violating the provisions of A in last MV the during the last three years is indicated three years, year-wise; and below:

Year Total No. of challans made Total No. of for buses viz. DTC, Contract challans made Carriage, Mini buses, for other Redline Buses, Tourist States Buses Buses etc.

April, 91 - March, 92 3182 564

April, 92 - March, 93 8553 821

April, 93 - March, 94 27619 593

{Translation] (a) whether the Government have decided to construct a shipyard in Hazira; Shipyard In Hazlra (b) if so, the details thereof; and 47. SHRI MAHESH KANODIA: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT (c) if not, the reasons therefor? be pleased to state: 167 Written Answets JULY 25, 1994 Written Answets 168

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Posts has taken up a programme of THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE transmission of Money Order advice TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): through satellite channel. The first phase (a) Government of India have no proposal of this programme envisages setting up to construct a shipyard of 75 micro earth stations In the country covering the State capitals and remote (b) and (c). Do not arise. and hilly areas. The 75 locations selected for such micro earth stations is given in Satellite Money Order Service In the Statement attached. Each micro earth District Headquarters station c0!lsisting of a VSAt (Very Small Aperture Terminal) and other necessary peripherals, is to provide expeditious link 48. SHRI ARJUN SINGH YADAV: to other Post Offices situated around it Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS for a more efficient Money Order service. be pleased to state: The number of micro earth stations for satellite transmission of Money Orders is (a) whether the district headquarters proposed to be enlarged subsequently to in different States have been linked with provide more intensive coverage of the the Satellite Money Order Service; country.

(b) if so, the number of headquarters which have been linked with this service (c) The Department has launched and the number of those yet be linked; a pilot scheme during 1993-94 at six and locations namely Delhi, Madras, Bangalore, Lucknow, Shimla and Patna where micro earth stations have been set (c) the work done in this regard up to work out and refine the detailed during 1993-94 and the scheme of the procedures for the system. Government for 1994-95 in this regard?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF With successful implementation of THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS the pilot scheme, the project will be (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). In order implemented in phases from 1994-95 to provide speedier and more effective with the setting up of micro earth stations Money Order Service, the Department of in the remaining locations.

STATEMENT

Ust of Proposed Locations for Micro Earth Stations (VSA TS)

SI. Name of the Circle Town/Cities No.

1. Assam 1. Guwahati, 2. Sllchar,3. Tezpur, 4. Dibrugarh, 5. North Lakhimpur

2. Andhra Pradesh 1. Hyderabad, 2. Vijaywada, 3. Visakhapatanam, 4. Tirupati, 5. Kumool 169 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 170

SI. Name of the Circle Town/Cities No.

3. Bihar 1. Palna, 2. Ranchi, 3. Gaya, 4. Purnia, 5. Darbhanga, 6. Madhepura, 7. Muzaffarpur

4. Delhi 1. New Delhi G.P.O.

S. Gujarat 1. Rajkot, 2. Baroda, 3. Ahmedabad

6. Himachal Pradesh 1. Shimla, 2. Mandi

7. Haryana 1 . Ambala, 2. Rohtak

8. Jammu & Kashmir 1. Jammu, 2. Srinagar

9. Kamataka 1. Bangalore, 2. Mysore, 3. Dharwad, 4. Mangalore, 5. Raichur

10. Kerala 1. Trivandrum, 2. Calicul, 3. Cochin

11. Madhya Pradesh 1. Raipur, 2. Jabalpur, 3. Indore, 4. Rallam, S. Bhopal 6. Gwalior

12. Maharashtra 1. Nagpur, 2. Bombay, 3. Pune 4. Panaji, S. Aumagabad

13. North Eastern 1. Shillong, 2. Aizwal, 3. Agartala, 4. Kohima

14. Orissa 1. Bhubaneswar, 2. Sambalpur

1S. Punjab 1. Ludhiana, 2. Jalandhar

16. Rajasthan 1. Jaipur, 2. Jodhpur, 3. Udaipur, 4. Ajmer, S. Kota

17. Tamil Nadu 1. Madras, 2. Coimbatore, 3. Madurai, 4. Trichi, 5. Thanjavur

18. Uttar Pradesh 1. Lucknow, 2. Kanpur, 3. Varanasi, 4. Agra, 5. Allahabad, 6. Saharanpur, 7. Bareilly, 8. Rudraprayag

19. West Bengal 1. Calcutta, 2. Siliguri, 3. Port Blair 171 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 172

[English] (b) whether the Government has fixed any maximum deposit amount and Substitute for Petrol Developed by the maximum price for LPG being sold Patrex by these private LPG dealers;

49. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: (c) if so, the details thereof; Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (d) the amount of deposit and the rate of LPG being sold by private LPG (a) whether Patrex Fuel India has dealers in Karnataka; developed a substitute for petrol as reported in the, 'Times of India' dated (e) whether some of the private June 24, 1994: LPG dealers are collecting huge amount as depOSits and selling LPG at exorbitant (b) if so, whether Bharat Petroleum rates; and Corporation Limited has tested the product developed by Patrex Fuel India Ltd.; and (f) if so, the action proposed to be taken in this regard? (c) if so, by when it is likely to be made available in the market? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND SHARMA): (a) Under the Parallel NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR Marketing System private agencies are SHARMA): (a) A claim has been made free to appoint distributors and register by Patrex Fuel India that they have customers. developed a substitute for petrol as reported in the Times of India (b) to (d). Under the said system dated 24-6-1994. private agencies have been allowed to import LPG using/setting up their own (b) BPCL has tested a product facilities and distribution network for sale presented by Patrex Fuel India. of such imported LPG at market determined prices, under their own terms. (c) Government has not permitted The Government does not regulate price private marketing of petrol or its or deposits, etc. equivalent. (e) and (f). Some such reports LPG 0 ••1.... In KarNItakli have come to the notice of the Government. The State and UT Govemments have been advised to ban 50. SHRIMATI CHANDRA PRABHA collection of depOSits by parallel URS: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM marketeers without their making adequate AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to arrangements for supply of these state: products. Besides, they have also been advised to verify the genuineness, (a) the number of private LPG antecedents and capabilities of personsl dealers in Karnataka; agencies intending to take up activities 173 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 174

under the parallel marketing system and nut farmers cooperative societies to to take appropriate action against persons ensure remunerative prices for farmers; who have been found indulging in and fraudulent and unfair trade practices. Public have also been suitably advised and warned through press releases that (g) if so, the details thereof? they must find out the antecedents, genuineness and capabilities of concemed THE MINISTER OF STATE OF p"rallel marketeers before entering into THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESS- any transaction with them. MRTP ING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN Commission also takes action against GOGOI): (a) to (g). As cashew processing persons/firms/ companies indulging in is being done mostly in the small scale unfair trade practices. and unorganised sector, information regarding State-wise number of units, Cashew Nut production and quantum of processing, number of co- processing operative societies etc. are not maintained centrally. However, as per the available 51. SHRI R. DHANUSKODI information there are some 690 factories ATHITHAN: Will the Minister of FOOD processing raw cashew nuts in the country PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased which are mostly located in the cashew to state: producing States of Kerala, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Goa, Maharashtra. (a) the number of cashew nut Orissa. Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, processing units, State-wise; Pondlcherry and Tripura. State-wise production of raw cashew nuts during 1990-91, 1991 -92 and 1992-93 are given (b) the quantity of raw cashew nuts in the Statement attached. In addition to processed annually in each States during processing of cashew nuts produced the last three years; within the country, India also imports raw cashew nuts and process them in the (c) whether cashew nut producers factories. Import of raw cashew nuts in are not getting remunerative prices for the years 1990-91, 1991 -92 and their products; 1992-93 were of the order of 82,639 MT, 1,06,322 MT and 1,33,293 MT (d) if so, the details thereof; respectively. Thus, the total amount of cashew processed in the country which (e) the number of cashew nut is inclusive of processing of domestic raw farmers co-operative societies, State-wise; cashew during the year 1990-91, 1991- 92 and 1992-93 was estimated to be of (f) whether the Union Government the order of 3,77,229 MT, 4,11,632 MT have taken steps to encourage. cashew and 4,82,683 MT respectively. 175 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 176

STATEMENT

Production of Raw Cashew Nuts

(Unit: Metric Tonnes)

State Years

1990-91 1991-92 1992-93

Kerala 1,42,100 1,43,200 1,51,600

Kamataka 25,770 26,750 31,260

Andhra Pradesh 37,770 40,360 44,880

Orissa 29,100 31,840 39,060

Maharashtra 29,510 31,960 25,590

Goa 14,100 14,490 33,810

Tamil Nadu 12,470 12,710 19,190

West Bengal 3,440 3,660 3,660

Pondicheny 280 290 290

Tripura 50 50 50

2,94,590 3,05,310 3,49,390

Utilisation of Natural Gas in Tripura (b) if so, the details of the scheme and the estimated cost of the same; 52. SHRIMATI BIBHU KUMARI DEVI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM (c) whether the Government have AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to taken a decision in regard to the state: implementation of the scheme; and

(a) whether a scheme has been (d) the time by which the same is prepared for the utilisation of the natural likely to be completed? gas available in Tripura for domestic distribution through pipelines in and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF around the city of Agartala; THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND 177 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 178

NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR (a) the total number of LPG SHARMA): (a) to (d). The Tripura Natural distributors in private sector oil companies Gas Company (TNGC) is distributing operating in each district of Gujarat as natural gas to industrial and domestic on March, 1994; consumers in and around Agartala. TNGC is at present drawing 500 SCMD of gas (b) the total number of consumers from Gas Authority of India Ltd. registered and in waiting list in the agencies; and Post Offices in Gram Panchayats of Gujarat (c) the time by which all the consumers registered are likely to get 53. SHRI HARIBHAI PATEL: Will connections? the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (a) the total number of Gram NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR Panchayats in Gujarat; SHARMA): (a) to (c). Under the Parallel Marketing System private agencies are (b) the number of Gram Panchayats free to appoint distributors and register out of them with Post Office facility till customers without any involvement of the March, 1994; and Govemment and the infonnation is not available with the Govemment. (c) the time by which the post offices are likely to be opened in the [Translation] remaining Gram Panchayats? Shortage of Instruments THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 55. SHRI RAMESHWAR PATIDAR: (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). There Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS are 13108 Gram Panchayats in Gujarat be pleased to state: and out of these 8077 Gram Panchayats are with Post Office facility at present. (a) whether Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Limited is facing acute shortage (c) Post Offices are opened under of the instruments to be installed in the annual plans subject to availability of telephone exchanges due to which delay funds. While priority is given to Gram is being caused in replacement of the old Panchayats in opening of post offices, it exchanges; is not possible to indicate a time-frame for covering all Gram Panchayats. (b) if so, to what extent the working of the telephone network has been Private Sector LPG Distribution in affected on account of that; and Gujarat (c) the steps taken to overcome it 54. SHRI HARIN PATHAK: Will the and the remedial measures taken to Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL improve the functioning of Mahanagar GAS be pleased to state: Telephone Nigam Limited? 179 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 180

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) if so, the time by which a final THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS decision is likely to be taken in this (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) No Sir. The old regard? and life expired exchanges are being replaced in a phased manner. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (b) and (c). Does not arise in view NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR of the (a) above. SHARMA): (a) and (b). Subject to economic viability and product availability, Directions to LPG Distributors LPG distributorships are opened at locations having population of 20,000 56. SHRI RAJVEER SINGH: Will and above in a phased manner. There the Minister of PETROLEUM AND is no proposal at present to set up LPG NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: distributorships at Fatehganj West, Mirganj and Nawabganj Municipality of Sareilly (a) whether the Government have (U.P.) directed LPG distributors to ensure that the employees who would go to supply [English] the LPG cylinder would also carry weighting instrument with him; and Oil Exploration

(b) if so, when such directions were 58. KUMARI FRIDA TOPNO: Will issued and the time by which the same the Minister of PETROLEUM AND would be implemented? NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (a) whether a meeting was held THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND recently in New Delhi to formulate a plan NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR for oil exploration for the next three SHARMA): (a) and (b). No such directions years; have been given to the LPG distributors. However, LPG distributors are under (b) if so, the decision reached at instructions to carry out pre-delivery the meeting; and checks including correctness of weight of a filled LPG cylinder at their godowns. (c) the areas selected for oil exploration in the country and estimated LPG Agencies in Bareilly. U.P. quantity of oil projected to be produced?

57. SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR THE MINISTER OF STATE OF GANGWAR: Will the Minister of THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR pleased to state: SHARMA): (a) to (c). A proposal for enhancing the exploration effort in the (a) whether the Government Eighth Plan has been formulated which propose to set up LPG agencies at includes:- Fatehganj West, Mirganj and Nawabganj Municipality at Sareilly in Uttar Pradesh; (i) National Seismic Programme. and 181 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 182

(ii) Deep Water Exploration. (b) if so, the details thereof; and

(iii) Exploration in Frontier areas. (c) if not the reasons therefor?

(iv) Acquisition of acreage/reserves THE MINISTER OF STATE OF abroad. THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): Assistance to South Africa (a) No, Sir.

59. SHRI ANNA JOSHI: Will the (b) Does not arise. Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: (c) On the basis of verification of membership among the Port and Dock (a) whether the new Government Workers at Paradeep Port conducted by of South Africa has approached the the Ministry of Labour for the period as Government for assistance in respect of on 31-12-1990, Utkal Port & Dock Workers skilled/ professional manpower, Union is entitled to both the seats. As machineries etc. from India for their there are two factions in the Union, there developmental schemes; is a dispute about its leadership. Title suit in this connection is pending. Since this (b) if so, the details thereof; and Union is entitled to both the seats, it has not been possible to nominate the trustees till title suit is disposed. (c) the steps taken by the Government in this regard? [Translation} THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Private Parties to Import LPG (SHRI SALMAN KHURSHEED): (a) to (c). The Government is discussing various 61. SHRIMATI PRATIBHA aspects of bilateral cooperation with the DEVISING PATIL: Will the Minister of Government of South Africa. The PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be Government of India has offered technical pleased to state: and other assistance to the new South African Government. (a) whether the Government Plave permitted private sector LPG companies Pradeep Port Trust to import LPG;

60. SHRI LOKANATH (b) if so, the details thereof and the CHOUDHURY: Will the Minister of quantum of LPG to be imported: SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (c) whether these parties have made arrangements for storage of LPG; (a) whether the proposed labour trustees in Paradeep Port Trust have been nominated; (d) if so, the details thereof; 183 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 184

(e) the measures being taken by (a) whether the Government the Government from safety pOint of propose to revise the ratio of view; compensatory payment in the event of the insured goods getting lost in transit (f) the details of the waiting list for and whether such cases are proposed LPG connection with each of the to be brought within the purview of distributor; and Consumer Protection Act;

(b) if so, the details in this regard; (g) the time by which the registered and consumers are likely to get connections?

(c) if not, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS SHARMA): (a) to (e). Under the Parallel (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) to (c). There is Marketing System, private agencies have already a provision under the rules to pay been allowed to import LPG, using/ compensation not exceeding the amount setting up their own facilities and for which a Postal article has been distribution network for sale of sllch insured in case of loss of the insured imported LPG, at market determined article subject to the condition that prices. Individual parties do not need any compensation so payable shall in no permission from the Ministry of Petroleum case exceed the value of the articles lost and Natural Gas for undertaking parallel or the amount of damage caused. Postal marketing system. However, they will services are already under the pur,/!9w have to obtain necessary approvals under of the Consumer Protection Act. However, the relevant Acts and Rules regarding the liability of the Government is limited safety, pollution control etc., as applicable. to what has been laid down in the Indian 11 parties have entered into Memorandum Post Office Act. of Understandings with Government Oil Companies for utilising their import and storage facilities. By 15.7.1994, 20424 Hiring of Tankers MTs of LPG have been imported by the private agencies. In addition, one party 63. SHRI PHOOL CHAND VERMA: is reported to have imported 5,000 Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND cylinders of 11 Kg. capacity each. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

(f) to (g). Under the said scheme (a) whether Government's attention the private agencies are free to appoint has ben drawn to the news-item appearing distributors and register customers without in 'Rashtriya Sahara' dated June 28, any involvement of Government. 1994 under the caption 'Tel parivahan ke purane farmule se sarkar ko karoron ka nukasan'; Payment for Lost Items

(b) if so, whether the hiring charges 62. SHRI KASHIRAM RANA: Will of a tanker in the international market are the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be less as compared to Indian formula pleased to state: adopted in hiring tankers; and 185 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 186 (c) if so, the reaction of the [TranslationJ Government thereto? Visit of Foreign Delegations THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND 65. SHRI RATILAL VERMA: Will NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be SHARMA): (a) to (c). The hire charges pleased to state: under cost plus formula of old national fleet are currently lower than the market (a) the countries from where high rates but new ship acquisitions are costing powered delegations visited India from more. march, 1994 to June, 1994 under the leadership of heads of the State and [English] Heads of the Government;

(b) the broad details of the talks Privatisation of Petroleum Products held with those delegations, country-wise and the outcomes thereof; and 64. SHRI P.C. THOMAS: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (c) the views expressed by these GAS be pleased to state: delegations in regard to Kashmir issue; country-wise? (a) whether the Government propose to privatise production and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE distribution of petroleum products in the MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS country; and (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) The names of the countries, whose high-powered delegations led by their Heads of Sialel (b) if so, the details thereof? Heads of Government visited India from March, 1994 10 June, 1994, are Polanj THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Maldives and Argentina. THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR In addition, Ihe Heads of Siale! SHARMA): (a) and (b). Government has Government of the following countries already approved proposals for private visited New Delhi to attend the re- investrnent including foreign investment convened G-15 Summit in March, 1994; in refining and have granted LC,s to seven private parties to set up oil Indonesia, Zimbabwe, Nigeria, refineries in the country. Senegal, Malaysia and Argentina.

Parallel Marketing has been (b) Information, country-wise, is as introduced to promote private sector under: initiative and investment in Marketing of LPG, SKO and LSHS and other Poland decanalised products with the objective of increasing availability of these products Issues conceming international and in the country. regional affairs as well as biiateral 187 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 188 cooperation were discussed. Views were reaffirming its continued relevance. There also exchanged on disarmament. On were also fruitful bilateral diSCUSSions bilateral aspects, the two sides concurred held with these leaders. on the need to strengthen trade and economic ties and activise the Indo- (c) Country-wise pOSition is as Polish Joint Business Council and the under: Indo-Polish Joint Commission. It was also decided that the two sides would exchange views on restructuring of the Poland UN Security Council and cooperate and coordinate efforts in GATT in relation to The outstanding issue between India the follow up of the Uruguay Round and and Pakistan should be settled bilaterally particularly the Multi-Fibre Agreement. and that they were against the intemationalisation of this issue. Maldives Maldives Discussions covered the issues of mutual interest of bilateral, regional and Kashmir problem should be international nature and the areas of amicably and peacefully resolved through existing and future cooperation between a dialogue between India and Pakistan. India and Maldives. The visit led to better understanding of each other's views and enhanced cooperation between the two Argentina countries. Did not express any view on Argentina Kashmir issue.

Wide-ranging discussions on G-15 Summit international, regional and bilateral issues were held. Four Agreements--(i) Though there was no reference to Agreement 00 abolition of visas for Kashmir in Joint Communique issued at diplomatic and official passport holders; G-1S Summit, it highlighted the threat (ii) Agreement on establishment of Indo- posed by terrorism in the following words: Argentina Joint Commission; (iii) Intent on signing of Cultural Exchange "Terrorism has emerged as one of Programme; and (iv) Memorandum of the most dangerous threats to the Understanding on cooperation between enjoyment of human rights. Exim Bank of India and its Argentina Terrorists and their organisations counterpart organisations were signed. violate the human rights of innocent civilians while at the same time G-15 Summit undermining the free functioning of democratic institutions. Terrorism However, discussions with the takes on a particularly pernicious Heads of State or Government, who had character when it is aided from come for the G-15 Summit Meeting, were abroad. The international community mainly in the context of G-15, chalking should cooperate effectively to out areas of concrete cooperation and prevent and combat terrorism." 189 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 190

[English] (e) if so, the details thereof?

Adulteration of Petrol THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND 66. SHRI JAGMEET SINGH SRAR: NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND SHARMA): (a), (d) and (e). The MS/HSD NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Control Order, 1990 and marketing discipline guidelines are in operation for (a) whether the Government have curbing adulteration/malpractices at the issued guidelines to the petrol pumps retail outlets. As per guidelines, regular and connected shops under its inspections are carried out by Oil department with regard to put a check Company Officers and Joint Industry on adulteration of petrol; Teams. Surprise inspections are made by mobile laboratories. Density checks under MS/HSD Control Order are carried (b) if so, the number of such cases .out by dealers and Oil Companies. Filter handed over to vigilance department for paper test and furfural doping test are enquiry during the last three years; also carried out for checking adulteration. In proven cases of adulteration, punitive (c) The number of persons against action is taken including termination of whom action has been taken after dealership. ascertaining the adulteration alongwith the number of petrol pumps cancelled by (b) and (c). In cases of adulteration Government, State-wise; detected by Oil Companies, action is taken by the Oil Companies themselves. (d) whether the Government propose to formulate any policy in this The State-wise details of cases of regard so that common consumers are proven adulteration wherein action has not cheated by supplying unadulterated been taken by the Oil Companies are petrol; and given in the enclosed Statement.

STATEMENT

State Name of the Dealer Action Taken and Location

1. Orissa 1 . Kedar Gauri Service Station Delaership Bhubaneshwar terminated 2. Janpath Service Station, Bhubaneshwar -do- 3. Sadri Narain, Kashi Prasad, Shadrak -do-

2. Uttar Pradesh 1. Singh Service Station, Dehradun -do- 191 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 192

State Name of the Dealer Action TakeI' and Location

3. Maharashtra 1. Mis. M.P. Auto, Dealership Kamptee Road, Nagpur. terminated 2. Jay Auto, BOl)"lbay. -do- 3. Mis. Ram Agencies, Saoner. -do- 4. Mis. Parthsarthy, Shahpur. -do-

4. Karnataka 1. Mis. N.A. Service Station, -do- Bangalore

Road Construction Projects (d) the extent of usefulness of the visit in regard to Indo-Taiwanese 67. SHRI DHRMANNA MODAYYA relations? SADUL: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (a) whether a large number of (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) No Sir. private sector projects for road building are lying pending with the Union (b) to (d). Does not arise. Government; and Maintenance of Buses (b) if so, the details thereof? 69. SHRI SHRAVAN KUMAR THE MINISTER OF STATE OF PATEL: Will the Minister of SURFACE THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) No, Sir. (a) whether Government's attention has been drawn to the report in the (b) Does not arise. 'Hindustan Times' dated July 9, 1994 captioned, "Dirty buses add to commuters Visit of Prime Minister of Taiwan woes";

68. SHRI JAGAT VIR SINGH (b) if so, what are the standards DRONA: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL laid down, if any, about the facilities, AFFAIRS be pleased to state: structure and maintenance of buses in the Union Territory of Delhi under DTC (a) whether the Prime Minister of and under ST A permits; Taiwan recently visited India; (c) whether any inspection and (b) if so, the details thereof; survey of all these buses has since been carried out and if so, details thereof; (c) the broad (tetails of the talks held by him with Indian leaders and the (d) the total number of buses in the outcome thereof; and DTe fleet as on April 30, 1994; 193 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 194 (e) whether Government propose (a) whether the Government have to reduce the size of the DTC fleet; and given its approval and arranged required financial assistance for the Kayamkulam (f) if so, the details thereof? Thennal Power Project in Kerala;

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) if not, the time by which the THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE approval would be given and the financial TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): allocation made; and (a) Yes, Sir. (c) the financial institution funding (b) and (c). Under the provisions the project? of Section 56 of Motor Vehicles Act, 1988, Stage Carriage Permit buses are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE required to obtain certificate of fitness MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. which is valid for one year. Inspection is RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) to (c). The carried out at the time of renewal of Government of India have recently certificate of fitness by the Board of decided that the Kayamkulam Thennal Inspectors. The dimension, facilities, Power Project in Kerala will be structure etc. of the buses are checked implemented by the National Thennal as per the conditions laid down in Rule Power Corporation (NTPC). NTPC would 91 to 122 of Central Motor Vehicle Rules, arrange for requisite finance partly through 1989. The owner of the bus plying under its own resources and partly through State Carriage Permits is responsible to commercial borrowings, issue of bonds, keep the bus neat and clean as per etc. A token provision of Rs. 1 crore has permit conditions. So far as DTC is been made by NTPC in the current concerned, all the DTC buses are checked financial year pending investment approval for the cleanliness/presentability at the for expenditure on establishment etc. time of out-shedding from the Depots Investment approval to the project will be everyday. accorded after updating of the cost estimates. (d) As on 30-4-1994 DTC had a fleet strength of 3505. Match Wax

(e) and (f). It has been decided to 71. SHRI BHUPINDER SINGH keep the fteet strength of DTC fixed at HOODA: Will the Minister of 3500 buses. PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Kayamkulam Thermal Power Plant (a) whether there is surplus 70. SHRIMATI SUSEELA availability of match wax in the country, GOPALAN: after regular allotments; PROF. K.V. THOMAS: (b) if so, whether any regular Will the Minister of POWER be allotment of match wax is being provided pleased to state: to the Haryana; 195 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 196

(c) if not, whether any demand of (b) the number of the village- Haryana is pending with the Union panchayats proposed to be provided with Government and if so, the reasons for the said facility during 1994-95; and delay in allotment;

(c) the time by which the above (d) whether regular allotment of facilities is likely to be provided to Bahal, match wax has been considered recently Luharu, Dadri, Boni-Khera, Tosham and in any other cases; and Bond located in Bhiwani district of Haryana? (e) if so, the details thereof?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). SHARMA): (a) At present there is no Information is being collected and will be surplus availability of paraffin wax type- 1aid on the table of the House. III (match wax). To make the product easily available, paraffin wax has been (c) the details are as under:- decanalised with effect from 1.4.1992.

(b) The allocation of paraffin wax (i) Bothway STD facility has type-III is made to some StateslUTs on already been provided at Dadri, regular basis. Howe'Jar, adhoc allocations Bawani-Khera and Tosham of match wax have been made in the during March, 1994. past to various StateslUTs including Haryana to liquidate the surplus availability (ii) STD facility in outgOing direction at that particular point of time. has also been provided at Luharu during March, 1994. (c) to (e). The Directorate of Industries, Haryana has requested allotment of about 700 MTs per month (iii) Bothway STD facility to Bahal, of paraffin wax type-III (match wax) on Bond and Luharu has been regular basis. The demand of individual planned to be provided during State/UT is decided on a case to case the year 1994·95. basis, on merits. Agreements with foreign countries fT fans/ation] in Power Sector

STD Facility to Village Panchayats 73. SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): Will the Minister of POWER be pleased 72. SHRI JANGBIR SINGH: Will to state: the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (a) the names of the foreign (a) the number of the village countries with whcih agreements relating panchayats provided with STD. facility to power generation have been signed during the last three years, State-wise; by Indian Govemment during June, 1994; 197 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 198

(b) the country-wise names of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE companies which are coming forward to MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. invest in power sector of India and the RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) No Agreements amount likely to be invested by each of have been signed with foreign countries them; and for power generation in private sector in June, 1994. (c) the extent to which the power production is likely to go up in the country (b) and (c}. The details are given as a result thereof? in Statement attached. 199 Written Answ81S JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 200

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Country-wise break up of the proposals

Country Capacity Cost No. of Otters

1. USA 14169.00 46596.39 22

2. UK 2050.00 6525.00 3

3. Germany 2154.70 6678.14 2

4. Australia 888.00 2553.73 3

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[English] [Translation]

Gold in Assam L.P.G. Bottling at Gorakhpur, U.P. 76. SHRI PANKAJ CHOWDHARY: 75. SHRI KABINDRA Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND PURKA YASTHA: Will the Minister of NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: MINES be pleased to state: (a) whether the Union Govemment (a) whether the Government have received proposal from the Uttar propose to conduct a survey to reasses Pradesh Government to set up a bottling gold availability in the country; plant at Gorakhpur;

(b) if so, whether the sands of river (b) if so, the decision taken by the Subansiri in Assam was found to be rich Union Govemment in this regard; and in gold deposits; and (c) the amount estimated to be (c) if so, the steps being taken to spent on setting up of this bottling plant? extract these reserves? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTRY OF MINES NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAV): (a) SHARMA): (a) No such proposal has Yes, Sir. been received. One LPG bottling plant is already operating at Gorakhpur. (b) A study by the Regional (b) and (c). Do not arise. Research Laboratory, Jorhat and Directorate of Geology and Mining {English] (Assam) has indicated poor incidence of Passport Offices 0.37 gIt of gold in Subansiri river, Assam at some places. n. SHRI S.M. LAWAN BASHA: Will the Minister of EXTERNAl AFFAIRS (c) Does not arise. be. pleased to state: 211 Written Answets JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 212

(a) whether there is any proposal phased manner, improvement of the to hand over the function of issuing infra-structure of passport offices, regular passports to the Ministry of Home Affairs. inspections of passport offices, and augmentation of staff strength, as (b) if so, the reasons therefor and necessary. the present status of the proposal; Steel Units (c) whether there is any proposal to streamline the system of public dealing 78. DR. KRUPASINOHU BHOI: Will in passport offices; the Minister of STEEL be pleased to state: (d) if so, the details thereof; (a) the details of major, minor and (e) whether the Government have medium steel units being set up in Orissa introduced any innovations in the system during the Eighth Plan; and of processing passport applications during the last one year; and (b) the progress made so far in this (f) if so, the details thereof? regard?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) No, Sir. SONTOSH MOHAN OEV): (a) and (b). According to the information received (b) Does not arise. from the State Government of Orissa, five steel plants and one cold rOiling mill (c) to (f). Streamlining the working are proposed to be set up in Orissa of the passport offices is a continuous during the Eighth Plan. The details of process involving various steps like these plants and their progress are given compulerisation of passport offices in a below:-

SI. Name of the Unit Product & Capacity Progress No. & Location (in lac tonnes)

1. Mid-East Integrated ~ 1 531 acres of land Steel Ltd., Oaitari Pig Iron- 4.64 taken over by the Phase-II company. Site work Steel - 500 started. Chinese collaboration approved.

2. Brahamani Iron and Concast Steel Co., Oaitari Slabs - 5.50 La.nd allotted.

3. Neelachallspat Billets & Land acquisition Nigam Ltd., Oaitari Siabs- 10.00 is in progress. Loan application to lOBI made. Application for Environment clearance made. 213 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 214

SI. Name of the Unit Product & Capacity Progress No. & Location (in lac tonnes)

4. ORIND Steels Ltd., CR Steel Land allotted Daitari Coils - 5.00

5. Bhusan Steels & Concas! Land allotted. Site Strips Ltd., Daitari. Slabs -- 6.50 demarcation work in progress.

6. Mesco-Kalinga Steels HR Steel Land allotted. MOU Ltd., Daitari. Coils - 12.00 signed with State Govt. for implementation of the project.

Indian Missions THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 79. SHRI PREM CHAND RAM: Will (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) A list containing the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be the names of the countries where there pleased to state: is no Indian Mission at present is given in the enclosed Statement. (a) the countries where there is no Indian Mission; and (b) An Indian Mission is likely to be opened in Colombia. However, a formal (b) the names of the countries announcement will be made after the where Indian Embassies are likely to be necessary administrative procedures have opened during 1994? been completed. STATEMENT

Names of the countries in which resident Indian Missions do not exist.

1. Benin 13. Gambia

2. Burklna Faso 14. Guinea

3. Burundi 15. Guinea Bissau

4. Cameroon 16. Lesotho

5. Cape Verde Islands 17. Uberia

6. Central African Republic 18. Malawi

7. Chad 19. Mali

8. Comoros 20. Niger

9. Congo 21. Rwanda

10. Equatorial Guinea 22. Sao Tome & Principe

11. Eritrea 23. Sierra' Leone

12. Gabon 24. SWaziland Wtilten Answers 216 215 Written Answers JUL Y 25, 1994

25. Togo 56. Luxemberg

26. Zaire 57. Monaco

27. The Bahamas 58. San Marino

28. Cook Islands 59. Antigua & Barbuda

29. Marshall Islands 60. Barbados

30. Nauru 61. Belize 31. New Caledonia 62. Bolivia 32. Society Islands 63. Caynan Islanos 33. Tonga 64. Colombia 34. Tuvalu 65. Costa Rica 35. Fiji 66. Commonwealth of Dominica 36. Kiribati 67. Dominican Republic 37. Papua New Guinea 68. Ecuador 38. Solomon Islands 69. EI Salvador 39. Vanuatu 70. Grenada 40. Western Samoa 71. Guatemala 41 . Azerbaijan 72. Haiti 42. Albania 73. Honduras 43. Armenia 74. Nether1ands Antilles 44. Bosnia-Herzegovina 75. Paraguay 45. Croatia 76. St Christopher and Nevis 46. Estonia

47. Georgia 77. St Lucia

48. Latvia 78. St Vincent and the Grenadines

49. Lithuania 79. Turks and Caicos Islands

SO. Moldova 80. Uruguay

51 . Slovak Republic 81. Taiwan

52. Slovenia 82. Djibouti

53. The Holy See 83. Mauritania

54. Iceland 84. Somalia

55. Uechtenstein 85. Gibraltar 217 Written Answers SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 218

Automatic Telephone Exchanges in (b) if so, the details thereof with Kerala locations and capacity of each exchange?

80. SHRI THA Y/L JOHN THE MINISTER OF STATE OF ANJALOSE: Will the Minister of THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir.

(a) whether the Government (b) As given in the enclosed propose to set up new automatic Statement. telephone exchanges in Kerala; and

STATEMENT

New Automatic Telephone Exchanges proposed to be set up in Kerala during 1994-95

Alleppey

(1) Arthinkal 256 PC-DOT RAX

(2) Pathirapally 256 PC-DOT RAX

(3) Alleppey Unit III 2000 Lines RLU

Cannanore

(1) Vaniyappara 256 PC-DOT RAX

(2) Tellicherry Unit II 3000 Lines RLU

Calicut

(1) Rec Calicut 256 PC-DOT RAX

(2) Calicut Unit II 10000 Lines (New Technology)

(3) Calicut Unit III 5000 Lines E-10-B Main

Ernakulam

(1 ) Manjapra 256 PC-DOT RAX

(2) Murukkumpadam 256 PC-DOT RAX 219 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 220

(3) Emakulam Unit IV 2000 Lines (New Technology)

(4) Emakulam-Wellington Island Unit" 3000 Lines C-DOT MAX I

(5) Kothamangalam Unit " 2000 Lines C-DOT MAX I

(6) Perumbavoor Unit " 3000 Lines C-DOT MAX I

Palghat

(1 ) Pal ghat Unit " 5000 Lines RLU

Pathanamthitta

(1) Vallicode-Kottayam 256 PC-DOT RAX

Quilon

(1) Quilon-Vellayittambalom 2000 Lines RLU

Trivandrum

(1) Trivandrum-Kaithamukku 4000 Lines (New Technology)

(2) Trivandrum-Kaimanam 2000 Lines (New Technology)

(3) Trivandrum-Medical College Unit " E-10-8 (M) 4000 Lines

Total 20 Exchanges

[Translation] (b) if so, whether any provision of foreign assistance was envisaged in this LPG Godown Between Jhansi and regard; and Kanpur (c) if so, the details thereof? 81. SHRI GAYA PRASAD KORI: WIll the Minister of PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR (a) whether the Government SHARMA): (a) No, Sir. propose to set up a LPG godown on the National Highway between Jhansi and Kanpur in Uttar Pradesh; (b) and (c). Do not arise. 221 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 222

[English] (a) the number of proposals pending with his Ministry for release of Rates of STD Telephones Calls commemorative stamps as on June 30, 1994;

82. DR. R. MALLU: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to (b) the number of such stamps state: released during 1993-94 with names of eminent persons; (a) whether domestic rates of STD calls and FAX are halved after 9 P.M., (c) whether any recommendations and on holidays; from the Govemment of Maharashtra is pending for issue of commemorative stamps; and (b) if so, the details thereof;

(c) whether the Government (d) if so, the details thereof? propose to provide similar facility for overseas calls also; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (d) if so, the details thereof; and (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) The number of proposals pending as on 30.6.94 for consideration by the Philatelic:: Advisory (e) if not, the reasons therefor? Committee, which functions in the Department of Posts to advise on such THE MINISTER OF STATE OF matters are twenty-nine. THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). The (b) The total number of stamps domestic rates of STD calls and FAX are issued during the period June '93 to charged at 25% of the normal tariff June '94 is 31 out of which 15 were of between 2100 hours to 2400 hrs. and eminent personalities. 0000 hrs. to 0600 hrs. on week days, National Holidays and Sundays for radial distances over 50 K.Ms. between any (c) No Sir. two exchanges or between any two long distance charging centres. (d) Does not arise.

(c) to (e). The question of tariff for [Translation] ISO calls is dependent upon number of factors including revenue sharing with other countries and is therefore examined Diamond Mining Sector by the Govemment periodically. 84. SHRI UPENDRA NATH Commemorative Stamps VERMA: Will the Minister of MINES be pleased to state: 83. DR. VASANT NIWRUTTI PAWAR: Will the Minister of (a) the country's share in interna- COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: tional diamond. ma.xet; 223 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 224

(b) whether the selling price of the Understanding on conducting an Indian diamonds abroad is lower than the aeromagnetic Survey of Bihar. corresponding domestic selling price;

(b) if so, the details thereof; and (c) the details of the benefits accruing to the diamond mining and trading sector as a result of the new (c) the time by which the above Economic Policy adopted by the Union agreement would be implemented? Government; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (d) the number of workers engaged THE MINISTRY OF MINES in the diamond mining sector and the (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAV): (a) employment potential of this sector in the Yes, Sir. near future?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) The Geological Survey of India THE MINISTRY OF MINES (SHRI (GSI) signed an MOU with Oil India BALRAM SINGH YADAV): (a) India has Limited on 16th September, 1993 to 40% share in the international market in conduct high resolution aeromagnetic cut and polished diamond. surveys over parts of Ganga Valley in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar for a period of two years for acquisition, processing and (b) Selling price of diamonds depend interpretations of the high resolution on their quantity. aeromagnetic data with the objective of identification of exploration targets for oil. (c) As a result of New Economic Policy of Union Government, some reputed International Diamond Mining (c) Aeromagnetic surveys Companies are taking interest in exploring commenced from 20th November, 1993. new mines for diamond production. Some Companies have shown interest in Companies Producing 50ft Drinks technical collaboration with NDMC for increasing Diamond production from its Diamond Mining Project, Panna, Madhya 86. SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: Pradesh. Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: (d) Total employees employed by NDMC as on 30.6.94 are 681 in its (a) whether the Government have diamond mixing project situated at Panna. formulated any scheme for production of soft drink in the country by unemployed MOU betw.. n G51 and Oil India persons;

85. SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRASAD (b) if so, the details thereof; and SINGH: Will the Minister of MINES be pleased to state: (c) the detaUs .,f indigenous and (a) whether G.S.I. and Oil India foreign companies producing soft drinks Ud. have signed a Memorandum of in the country? 225 Written. Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 226

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 4539 MMSCM. This is presently THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING transported to Uran through a subsea INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): pipeline for use by industries in fertilizers, (a) No, Sir. power, petrochemicals, etc. Another pipeline from Bombay High (ICP platform) (b) Does not arise. to Heera field is presently under construction to facilitate transportation of (c) Soft Drinks are normally additional gas from Bombay High to Uran understood as Sweetened Aerated Water. through the existing trunkline. There are 650 indigenous companies licensed under Fruit Products Order as [English} on 1.1 .1994 for producing Sweetened Aerated Water. No foreign Company is Manganese Ore India Limited producing soft drinks in India. However, Mis Pepsi Foods Ltd., and Mis. Britco 88. SHRI RAMCHANDRA Foods Co. Pvt. Ltd. are manufacturing GHANGARE: Will the Minister of STEEL soft drink concentrate. be pleased to state:

Production of Natural Gas and (a) whether the Manganese are Crude Oil in Bombay High India Limited has signed a memorandum of Understanding with the Government of 87. SHRI SURAJBHANU SOLANKI: India for the year 1994-95; and Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details thereof? (a) whether natural gas is being produced alongwith crude oil in the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Bombay High; THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) (b) if so, the quantity produced Yes, Sir. during 1993-94 and the manner in which it is proposed to be utilised for industrial (b) As per the MOU signed by purposes; MOIL with Government of India, during the year 1994-95. MOIL expects to (c) whether any pipelines are being produce 6.25 lakh tonnes of Manganese laitj for the supply 01 natural gas 01 Ore and 385 tonnes 01 Electrolytic Bombay High from main land to terminals; Manganese Dioxide (EM D) with an and expected net tumover of Rs. 82.76 crores and a profit (after tax) of Rs. 9.19 crores. (d) if so, the details thereof? {Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Conversion of Telephone Exchanges NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR in Delhi and Uttar Prsdesh SHARMA): (a) Yes, Sir 89. SHRI RAJ NARAIN: Will the (b) to (d). The gas production from Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Bombay High during 1993-94 was about pleased to state: 227 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 228

(a) whether the Government (f) if so, the details thereof and the propose to replace the old telephone date on which they are likely to start exchanges in Delhi and Uttar Pradesh functioning? during 1994-95 and 1995-96; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) if so, the details with locations THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND thereof, year-wise; and NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) and (b). Three ONGC (c) the number of persons on the projects namely Neelam Development, waiting list for telephone connection in L-" Development and L-"I Development Dehradun, Gorakhpur and Varanasi which were scheduled to commence Divisions in Uttar Pradesh and Paschim production this year have observed cost Vihar in Delhi as, on June 30, 1991 and escalation. While revised cost estimates on October 31, 1994 separately? for L-" & L-"I projects have been received from ONGC,_ the revised cost estimate THE MINISTER OF STATE OF for Neelam Oevelopment has since been THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS approved. (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) Neelam Project has since (b) and (c). The information is commenced production. being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. (d) Steps taken to check cost over- runs include:- {Engfish]

(i) To provide an exclusively ONGC Projects dedicated group of personnel to coordinate timely execution 90. SHRI RAM NIHOR RAI: Will of the projects; and the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (ii) Award of contracts at fixed lump-sum basis to the extent (a) whether some of the Oil and possible. Natural Gas Corporation projects, scheduled to commence production this year are suffering huge cost overruns: (e) and (f). Four medium sized fields-Mukta, Panna, Mid & South Tapti (b) if so, the details thereof; and Rawa have been awarded to two consortia of Indian and foreign companies for development under jOint sector. (c) by when the NEELAM projects Contracts have not been signed so far. are likely to start production;

(d) the steps taken to avoid Telephone Connectione In escalation in the original cost; U.haratrtra

(e) whether ONGC have given 91. SHRI RAM KAPSE: Wig the number of oil fields to the Indian and Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be foreign entrepreneurs; and pleased to state: 229 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 230

(a) the number of persons on the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF waiting list for telephone connections in THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Maharashtra, district-wise and category- (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Information is wise; given in the enclosed Statement.

(b) and (c). Telecom Policy 1994 (b) the time by which the waiting envisages the provision of telephone list will be cleared; and connections practically on demand by 1.4.97 a" over the country. During 1994-95 it is proposed to provide 2,47,000 (c) the programme, if any, chalked new telephone connections in out for the purpose? Maharashtra including MTNl Bombay.

STATEMENT

Number of Persons on waitng list for Telephone Connections in Maharashtra, District-wise and Category-wise as on 31.3.94

SI. District OYT SPl GENl Total No.

1. Bombay (MTNl) 5316 937 87043 93296

2. Thane (Kalyan) 3901 123 31019 35043

3. Nasik 805 828 1n46 19379

4. Nagpur 1498 1304 25088 27890

5. Jalgaon 131 292 7263 7686

6. Raigad 73 10 2020 2103

7. Ahmednagar 59 234 10051 10344

8. Aurangabad 635 612 11256 12503

9. Jalna Nil 1416 1417

10. Nanded 164 51 3559 3n4

11. Parbhani 5 9 1587 1601

12. Latur 147 310 4172 4629 231 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 232

SI. District OYT SPL GENL Total No.

13. Beed 14 33 1612 1659

14. Osmanabad 3 5 912 920

15. Kolhapur 210 233 11470 11913

16. Solapur 1020 791 8926 10737

17. Sangli 322 223 6485 7030

18. Satara 5 12 1561 1578

19. Ratnagiri 138 123 3425 3686

20. Sindudurg 8 39 1131 1178

21. Pune 187 1033 53688 54908

22. Dhule 65 46 3274 3385

23. Akola 152 140 4341 4633

24. Amaravati 47 91 3794 3932

25. Dhandara 34 30 1189 1253

26. Buldana 84 875 960

27. Wardha 4 2 1173 1179

28. Yeotmal 76 82 1664 1822

29. Ghandrapur 5 Nil 2109 2114

30. Gadchiroli Nil 2 388 390

15026 7679 310237 332942 233 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 234

Maritime Boundaries with Pakistan Bangladesh and Bangladesh (a) Indo-Bangladesh talks on 92. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: maritime boundary in the Bay of Bengal Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS were first held in November 1974. The be pleased to state: last round of talks was held in August 1982. Despite these talks, no substantial progress has been achieved so far. (a) the progress made in the bilateral negotiations on demarcation of (b) The water is being pursued maritime boundaries with Pakistan in the through diplomatic channels in order to Arabian Sea and with Bangladesh in the seek resumption of the Indo-Bangladesh Bay of Bengal; talks on demarcation of maritime boundary. (b) the exact status of negotiations; and (c) No agreement has been concluded because of divergent (c) the reasons for the delay in the approaches and viewpoints of the two conclusion of agreements? sides.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Vehicular Pollution MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) to (c). A 93. MAJ. GEN. (RETD.) BHUWAN Statement is attached. CHANDRA KHANDURI: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: STATEMENT

(a) the comparative figures of the Pakistan daily emission of vehicular pollution in Delhi, Bombay, Calcutta, Madras and (a) to (c). We have held five rounds Bangalore; of discussions with Pakistan with a view to demarcating the India-Pakistan (b) what percentage of total maritime boundary in the Sir Creek area. atmosphere pollution is caused by The last round of talks on the issue were Vehicles in these cities: and held at New Delhi on 5-6 November, 1992 during which the two sides had a (c) the action proposed to be taken detailed exchange of views. However, by the Government to control vehicular the differences in the interpretation of the pollution in the major metropolitan cities? boundary in the Sir Creek area persist. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Government have since conveyed THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE to Pakistan certain constructive and TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): specific suggestions which can form the (a) to (c). The information is being basis of a comprehensive and meaningful collected and will be laid on the Table dialogue on the issue. of the House. 235 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written AnsW91S 236 National Mineral Development with his Ministry for 1994-95 recently; Corporation and

94. SHRI R. SUR ENDER REDDY: (d) if so, the details thereof? Will the Minister of STEEL be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (a) whether the performance of the (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) and National Mineral Development Corpora- (b). While the production of iron ore and tion (NMDC) has been improving over diamonds by the National Mineral the last three years; Development Corporation Limited (NMDC) has been increasing every year, profits have been affected over the last three (b) if so, the details of the tumover, years primarily due to increase in profits and dividends paid by the NMDC operational costs and decline in the during the last three years, year-wise; export prices of iron ore. Details of the tumover, profits and dividends paid by (c) whether the Corporation has the NMDC during the last three years are signed a Memorandum of Understanding as under:-

1991-92 1992-93 1993-94 (Prov.)

(i) Sales As. 304.74 crores Rs. 299.37 crores Rs. 306.54 crores Turnover (including other income)

(ii) Net Profit As. 145.21 crores As. 116.30 crores Rs. 96.74 crores

(iii) Dividend As. 26.43 crores Rs. 26.43 crores Rs. 26.43 crores paid (Proposed)

(c) and (d) In the Memorandum of the Company has undertaken to achieve understanding for 1994-95 signed recently the following physical and financial targets between NMDC al1d the Steel Ministry, during 1994-95:-

(i) Production of Iron Ore 11.2 Mlllicn Tonnes

(ii) Production of Diamonds 17800 Carats

(iii) Gross Margin Rs. 78.26 crores

(iv) Net profit to Capital 11.51% employed 237 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SMA) Written ~ 238 Distribution of Dealership for LPG! AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to PetrolJDiesel In Kerala state:

95. SHRI MULLAPPALL Y (a) the number of licences issued RAMCHANDRAN: Will the Minister 01 by the Government during the last two PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be years for allotment of petrol pumps, pleased to state: diesel pumps and LPG agencies respectively;

(a) whether the Union Government have received complaints about (b) the number of licences out of distribution of dealership for LPG and them given to persons belonging to Petrol/Diesel bunks in Kerala; Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes, Backward classes, handicapped, educated unemployed and persons retired from the (b) if so, the details thereof; Armed forces and Para-military forces, State-wise;

(c) whether the Oil Selection Boards has been disbanded before its normal (c) the number of licence-holders tenure in Kerala; and against whom complaints regarding less measurement and aduheration have been received and the action taken against (d) if so, the reasons therefor? them;

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (d) the number of foreign companies THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND which have issued licences for petroV NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR diesel pumps and LPG agencies alongwiltl SHARMA): (a) to (d). Complaints were the State-wise number of licences issued received against the functioning of the by them; and Oil Selection Board for Kerala and Lakshadweep including a few Writ (e) the number of licences proposed Petitions filed in the High Court of Kerala to be issued in the public sector and against the selections made by the OSB. private sector during the current financial In view of this, the tenure of the Chairman year, the State-wise details thereof? and the Members of OSB (Kerala & Lakshadweep), which was due to expire on 31.12.1994, was terminated on THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 2.3.1994, in public interest. THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) Letters of Intent for petroil [Translation1 diesel Retail Outlets and LPG distributorships are issued by the Oil Marketing Companies on the Allotment of Dealership recommendations of the Oil Selection Boards and also in pursuance of 96. SHRI BHAGWAN SHANKAR Government sanctions issued under RAWAT: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM discretionary powers. 239 Written AnswetS JULY 25, 1994 Wrltlen AnsW91S 240

Accordingly, LOla issued during the free to appoint distributors for LPG and last 2 years are reported as under:- kerosene without any involvement of Govemment. PetroVdiesel are not allOwed to be marketed by private agencies RO LPG including foreign companies.

1992·93 32 104 Bridges In Gutarat

1993-94 671 381 97. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (b> The existing policy provides GAS be pleased to state: reservation for different categories of people as under.- (a> whether Oil and Natural Gas Commission have allocated funds for the construction of bridges in Gujarat; SClST 25% (b) if so, the details thereof; and PhysicaUy 71f1% handicapped (c) the amount spent so far by the Oil and Natural Gas Commission on the Defence 71f1% Construction of bridges in Gujarat?

Freedom Fighters 5% THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Open 55% NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) to (c). ONGC Ltd. have There is no separate reservation not specifically allocated funds for for backward classes and educated construction of bridges in Gujarat. unemployed persons. However, the Corporation has assisted the Govemment of Gujarat with a sum of Rs. 2 crores for construction of an (c) Six dealerships have been over-bridge over Sabarmati Railway terminated after charges of adulteration Crossing at Ahmedabad. Of this, Rs. 1 against them have been proved. crore was released during 1992·93 and balance Rs. 1 crore was released during (d) and (e). About 1400 RO 1993-94. dealerships and 850 LPG distributorships already included in the Marketing Plans Telephone Dues Agalnat are due to be allotted during ~he current Ex. Mlnlat.ralEx.M.Pa. year by the public sector Oil Marketing Companies. Actual number would depend on various factors such as the number 98. SHRI LALIT ORAON: win the of candidates applying in response to Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be advertisements and the number of pleased to state: interviews that could be conducted by the Oil Selection Boards. Under the Parallel {a> the details in regard to those Marketing System private agencies are Ex. MinisterslEx. Members of Parliament 241 Written Answers SRAVANA3,1916(SAKA) Written Answers 242 and retired Government Officers as on Power Finanoe Corporation 30th June, 1994 against whom telephone bills for more than ten thousand rupees 100. SHRI JAGAT VIR SINGH are outstanding and they have not made DRONA: Will the Minister of POWER be any payments in this regard for the last pleased to state: six months of more; and

(a) whether the Power Finance (b) the action taken by the Corporation propose to raise resources Governrnent so far to recover the amount through bonds; outstanding against them? (b) if so, the details thereof; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (c) the purpose for which the (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). The amount realised through bonds is information is being collected and the proposed to be utilised? same will be laid on the Table of the House. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. {Eng/ish} RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) At present there is no proposal before the Power Finance Corporation to raise resources through Consular Offices in Hyderabad Bonds.

99. SHRI DATTATRAYA (b) and (c). Do not arise in view BANDARU: Will the Minister of of (a) above. EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Oil Exploration (a) whether Andhra Pradesh Government has requested the Union 101. SHRI S.B. SIDNAL: Will the Government for setting up Consular offices Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL of some of the developed countries in GAS be pleased to state: Hyderabad; (a) whether the Govemment had (b) If so, the reaction of the invited bids in 1993-94 for oil exploration Government thereto; and in various blocks;

(b) if so, the foreign and Indian . (c) the steps proposed to be taken companies which have responded; by the Government in Jhls regard?

(c) the details of companies which THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE have been allotted exploration work, MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS company-wise and State-wise; (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) No, Sir. (d) whether all the blocks have (b) and (c). Does not arise. been allotted; and 243W""~ JUly 25, 1994

(e) If not, the reasons therefore? 0kIand Oil Company, USA

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Command Petroleum Holding Nl, THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Australia NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA):

(c) to (e). While proposals received under Fifth Round are under considera- Tata Petrodyne, New DelhI tion of Govemment, negotiations with bidders who submitted bids under Sixth Reliance InMtries. Bombay Round are in progress. The bids received under Seventh Round are under evalua- Videocon Petroleum, Aurangabad, tion. larsen & Toubro. Bombay STATEMENT Hindustan 01 Exploration Co.• Baroda fifth Round Rupsa Petroleum, West Bengal Indian Companies Gujarat State Petrochemicals Hindustan Oil Exploration Company, Corporation. Ahmedabad Baroda Phoenix Overseas, New DelhI Essar Oil, Bombay Harsh Oil and Gas consultants, New Videocon Intemational ltd., Delhi. Ahmedabad Naharwar Mart

Rupsa Petroleum Petrodrtll (P) Ud., New DelhI

Tata Petrodyne (P) ltd.

BHP Petroleum. Australia

Rexwood Corporation. USA Amoco Petroleum Co., USA 245 Wtmen AnsW91S SRAVANA 3, 1918 (SAKA) Written AnsweIS 248 Enron Exploration Co. USA EuroInue 01 VSNL

Command Petroleum, Australia 102. SHRI BAPU HARI CHAURE: Vaalco Energy, USA SHRI PARAS RAM BHARDWAJ: Phoenix Geophysies, Canada Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- TIONS be pleased to state: Samson International, USA

(a) whether attention of the Rexwood Corporation, USA Government has been drawn to the news-item captioned "VSNL losing As. 1 Okland Oil Co., USA crore a day" appearing in the 'Hindustan Times' dated July 11, 1994 regarding re- Seventh Round launching of Eurolssue of VSNL;

Indian Companies (b) if so, the facts thereof; and

Gujarat State Petrochemicals Ltd. (c) the reaction of the Govemment thereto? Essar Oil Ltd. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Harsh Oil and Gas Consultants (P) (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. Ud.

(b) VSNL, had proceeded for a Phoenix Overseas Ltd. Euroissue of 20 Million Shares as per Government approval. However, as the Reliance Industries Ltd. indicative price at the end of the book- building process was found less than Tata Petrodyne As. 1400, the Company in consultation with the Government deferred the issue. Hindustan Oil Exploration Company (c) The amount of loss quoted in the Newspaper appears to be without the Foreign Companies • basis.

Phoenix Geophysics Ltd. Canada

Vaalco Energy Inc. USA 103. SHRI RAMESH CHENNI- THAlA: Rexwood Corporation and OkJand Oil SHRIMATI SAROJ DUBEY: Co. USA WDI.the Minister of COMMUNICA- 0peeIa Geophysical System, USA TIONS be pIeaaed to .....: 247 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 248

(a) the break-up of the backlog (b) Yes, Sir. applications for telephone connections as on date, State-wise; (c) National Telecom. Policy 1994 (b) whether there is any action plan envisages to provide telephone prepared to clear the backlog; and connections on demand by 1.4.1997. Exchanges are being planned accordingly (c) if so, the details thereof? to meet the above objective. During 1994-95 annual plan, a target of providing THE MINISTER OF STATE OFTHE 14 lakh new telephone connections has MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI been fixed. Efforts are also being made SUKH RAM): (a) State-wise waiting list as to procure additional equipment on lease on 30.6.94 is given in the enclosed to reduce the backlog of waiting list. Statement.

STATEMENT

Telephone Connections

SI. Name of the State Waiting list as on No. 30.6.94

Andhra Pradesh 160880

2. Ass~ 12798

3. Bihar 34901

4. Gujarat (includes Dadar, Daman, Diu & Nagar Haveli (U.Ts) 211636

5. Haryana 62811

6. Himachal Pradesh 16801

7. Jammu & Kashmir 19958

8. Kamataka 176812

9. Kerala (includes Lakshadweep (U.T.) 325434

10. Madhya Pradesh 51933

11. Maharashtra (Includes Goa State) 353248 249 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 250

SI. Name of the State Waiting list as on No. 30.6.94

12. North East (Includes Arunachal Pradesh, Manipur, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland & Tripura) 6715

13. Orissa 6636

14. Punjab (Includes Chandigarh (U.T.) 204440

15. Rajasthan 174383

16. Tamil Nadu (Inciudes Pondicherry (U.T.) 319811

17. Uttar Pradesh 131057

18. West Bengal (includes Sikkim State) 77584

19. Delhi 260669

[Translation] of U.P. for which O.B. numbers have been issued but connections h2ve not Telephone Cormection been provided so far;

104. DR. SAKSHIJI: Will the Minister (b) and (c). The cases are pending. of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to being technically non-feasible for want of state: external plant and wi:1 be cleared by September 1994. (a) the number of such cases in Mathura district of Uttar Pradesh where [Englis·~l telephone connections have been sanctioned and O.B. number issued but connections have not been given so far; Committee for Telecom

(b) the reasons therefor; and 105. SHRI UDAYSINGRAO GAIKWAD: (c) the time by which these cases SHRI MANJAY LAL are likely to be cleared? SULTAN: SHRI SALAHUDDIN THE MINISTER OF STATE OF OWAISI: THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS SHRI M.V.V.S. MURTHY: (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Sir. A total of SHRI RAM PRASAD 429 caaea are pending In Mathura District StNGH: 251 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 252

MAJ. GEN. (RETD.) Gas-Based Power Generation BHUWAN CHANDRA KHANDURI: 106. SHRI RAJESH KUMAR: SHRI BOLLA BULLI SHRIMATI SHEELA RAMAIAH: GAUTAM: SHRI MOHAN RAWALE: SHRIMATI PRATIBHA Will the Minister of POWER be DEVISINGH PATIL: pleased to state: SHRI P.C. THOMAS: SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: (a) whether the National Thermal SHRI PANKAJ Power Corporation has cut down gas- CHOWDHARY: based power generation; SHRI SHIV SHARAN VERMA: (b) if so, the details and reasons therefor; and Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- TIONS be pleased to state: (c) the steps proposed to be taken to restore full production in these units? (a) whether the Committee consti- tuted to privatise the Telecom sector has THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE submitted its report; MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. RANGAYYA NAIDU) (a) No, Sir. As (b) if so. the broad recommenda- against a target for generation of 3248 tions made: million units from its gas based power statIOns In the period 1.4.1994 to (C) whether the Government pro- 31.7.1994, the National Thermal Power pose to implement these recommenda- Corporation's gas based power stations tions; and had already generated 3259.3 million units by 17.7.1994 itself. (d) if so, the details thereof; and (b) and (c). Do not arise. (e) if not, the reasons therefor? [Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTFW OF COMMUNICATIONS Huller Mills (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes Sir. Joshi Committee, which was appointed to 107. SHRI CHHEDI PASWAN: Will suggest guidelines for implementation of the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING National Telecom Policy, has submitted INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: its report. (a) whether the Government have (b) to (e). The report is under made eHorts for modernisation of huller consideration of the Government. A final mins in the country; decision will be taken at the time of formulating the guidelines for (b) if so, the number of such mills implementation of the National Telecom. modernised during the last two years; Policy. and 253 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 254

(c) the subsidy provided during DTC Bus Fares 1993-94 for the setting up of huller mills, State-wise? 108. DR. MUMTAZ ANSARI: SHRI PARAS RAM THE MINISTER OF STATE OF BHARDWAJ: THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): Will the Minister of SURFACE (a) Yes, Sir. TRANSPORT be pleased to state:

(b) Information will be collected (a) whether the Government have from the States and iaid on the Table increased D.T.C. and private bus fares of the House. in Delhi a few days ago:

(c) Amount of subsidy provided to (b) if so, the date and percentage various States during 1993-94 for of such increase; and modernisation of Huller Mills is detailed as under>- (c) the main reasons therefor?

Manipur Rs.12.10 lacs. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE Uttar Pradesh Rs.4S.00 lacs. TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) and (b). The Government have Tamil Nadu -As. 30.00 lacs. increased the fares of DTC buses with ef1ect from 21-6-1994. The increased Himachal Pradesh Rs. 1.80 lacs. fares have also been adopted by the Government of National Capital Territory Kerala Rs. 5.00 lacs. of Delhi in respect of private buses plying in Delhi under ST A permits. The percentage increase in different slabs is Total Rs.93.90 lacs. as under:-

Distance Percentage (slab) increase

Upto 5 K.M. Nil

Over 5 K.M. upto 6 K.M. 100%

Over 6 K.M. upto 8 K.M. Nil

Over 8 K.M. upto 15 K.M. 50%

Over 15 K.M. upto 16 K.M. 100%

Over 16 K.M. 33%

G.L. Service 25%

Ltd. Service 33% 255 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 256

(c) The fares have been revised to (e) Does not arise. meet the cost of operation which has gone up considerably due to increase in Lead Free Petrol the cost of fuel, lubricants and other inputs. 110. SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD: [English] SHRI TARA SINGH: SHRI PHOOL CHAND LPG Bottling Plant in Saurashtra VERMA:

Will the Minister of PETROLEUM 109. SHRI SHANKERSINH AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to VAGHELA: Will the Minister of state: PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) whether the Government have formulated any scheme for providing lead (a) whether the Government free petrol in metropolitan cities of the propose to set up a new LPG bottling country; plant in the Saurashtra region of Gujarat State; (b) if so, the details thereof; and

(b) if so, the details thereof; (c) the amount likely to be spent on this scheme? (c) the estimated cost of the project and the place where it is proposed to be THE MINISTER OF STATE OF set up; THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR (d) whether there is any SHARMA): (a) and (b). Government have collaboration with any foreign company formulated a plan of lead phasing in for setting up of this project; and petrol for metropolitan cities. According to the pian, by December 1994, petrOl supply to Metros (Bombay, Delhi, Calcutta (e) if so, the name of the foreign and Madras) should have a maximum agency and the terms and conditions lead level af 0.15 gm/litre as against the negotiated in this regard? current BIS specification of 0.56 gm/litre (Max). The supply of low lead (0.15 gm/ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 1 maximum) M.S. to all four metropolitans THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND have already commenced. NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. n.ere is By December, 1997, Delhi and a proposal to set up a LPG bottling plant Bombay would be supplied with zero lead with a capacity of 44 TMTP A at T adadi MS, whereas the rest of the country near Bhavnagar in Saurashtra region would have MS supplies of lead content with an estimated cost of Rupee 36 not exceeding 0.15 gm/litre. However, it crores. has been decided to introduce from April 1995, in a few selected retail outlets, (d) No, Sir. supply of zero lead petrol in four 257 Written Answers 3AAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 258

metropolitan cities in order to cater to the SHARMA): (a) The production of gas in requirement of the new vehicles which 1993-94 in Gujarat was as below:- would be fitted with catalytic convertors.

(MMSCMD) (c) The estimated cost for putting up of catalytic reformers in the existing refineries would be approximately As. North Gujarat 2.13 960 crores. South Gujarat 3.80

[Translation] (b) 21.21 MMSCMD has been allocated to projects in Gujarat. The Natural Gas allocations are not made yearly.

111. DR. AMAIT LAL KALiDAS (c) and (d). It has not been feasible PATEL: to consider requests ~or gas from new SHRI KASHIRAM RANA: projects and for additional gas from existing projects as the gas projected to be available is fully allocated, Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to (e) The Government have taken up state: schemes for enhancing the production and availability of gas in the state both (a) the annual production of natura! from onshore and offshore fields. gas in Gujarat, area-wise; National Seminar on Hydrology and Mining (b) the quantum of gas allocated for industries in the State every year, 112. SHRI SATYA DEO SINGH: Will the Minister of MINES be pleased to state: (c) whether various industries in Gujarat are not supplied gas according to their requirement; (a) whether a national seminar of experts in Hydrology and Mining was organised recently: (d) if 50. the reasons therefor; and (b) it so. whether certain suggestions were made to solve the (e) the steps being taken by the water problem in Delhi: and Government to meet the demand of those industries and to set up gas based (c) if so, the details thereot and the industries in the State? reaction of the Government thereto?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND MINISTRY OF MINES (SHRI SALRAM NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SINGH YADAV): (a) Ministry of Mines has 259 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 280 not organised any national seminar of (a) whether any agreements have experts in Hydrology and Mining. been signed between India and Bulgaria recently; and (b) and (c). Does not arise. (b) if so, the salient features of Conversion of Telecom into each of these agreements? Corporation THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 113. SHRI MANJAY LAL: MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS SHRI RAM PRASAD (SHRI SALMAN KHURSHEED): (a) Yes, SINGH: Sir. Six Agreements were signed with Bulgaria on May 26, 1994 during Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- President's visit to Bulgaria (26-29 May, TIONS be pleased to state: 1994), namely, Agreement on Combating Organized Crime, Intemational Terrorism, (a) whether attention of the Illegal Trafficking in Narcotics and Government has been drawn to the Psychotropic Substances; Agreement on news-item captioned "Doordarshan Vibhag Avoidance of Double Taxation; Agreement Ko Nigam Mein Nahin Badia Jayega" on Tourism Cooperation; Agreement on appearing in the daily 'Jan satta' dated Quarantine and Plant Protection; July 3. 1994; Veterinary and Sanitary Agreement; and, a Protocol for Consultations and (b) if so, the facts thereof; and Cooperation between the Ministry of Extemal Affairs and the Ministry of Foreign (c) the reaction of the Government Affairs of Bulgaria. thereto? (b) The salient features of the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Agreements are as follows:- THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM) (a) Yes, Sir. (i) The Agreement for Coopera- tion in Combating Organized (b) and (C). The recommendations of Crime, Intemational Terrorism the Athreya Commit1ee on reorganisation and Illicit Trafficking in Narcotic of Telecom Department were considered Drugs and Psychotropic Sub- by the Government and the same stand stances is to be implemented disposed in the light of the new Telecom by the Ministry of Home Affairs Policy. of India and the Ministry of Interior of Bulgaria. It provides Agreement with Bulgaria for exchange of information, regulations, fruits of research, 114. SHRI CHETAN P.S. equipment and experts for the CHAUHAN: purpose of combating intema- SHRIMATI DIPIKA H. tional terrorism, narcotics, or- TOPIWALA ganized crime including ec0- DR. RAMKRISHNA nomic offences, forgery, illegal KUSMARIA: arms deals etc.

Will the Minister of EXTERNAL (iI) The Agreement on Avoidance AFFAIRS be pleased to state: of Double Taxation Is to be 281 Written ~ SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 262

implemented by the Ministries Ministries of both countries. of Finance of both countries. This Agreement provides for This Agreement provides tor cooperation to preserve their protection of citizens from territories from epizootics in double taxation on incomes case of exports, imports and earned in their country from transit of live animals, materials business, employment, athletic for animal reproduction, infec- or artistic performances and tious diseases. It envisages prevention of tax evasion. This exchange of information, regu- is a basic agreement facilitating lations, experts as well as joint greater interaction, particularly efforts at research, develop- between the business and en- ment and prevention. trepreneurial communities of both countries. (vi) The Protocol for Consuaations and Coopera.;;on between the (iii) The Agreement on Tourism Ministry of Extemal Affairs of Cooperation is to be imple- India and the Ministry of For- mented by the Department of eign Affail'S of Bulgaria pro- Tourism of both countries. It vides fur consultations at the provides for joint tourism pro- level of Ministers, senior offi- motion and publicity, simplifica- cials. delegations to the UN tion of travel formalities, en- and other intemational fora, couraging investment in Embassies and Consulates in tourism, exchange of informa- third countries. on bilateral, re- tion and personnel This gional and global issues. Agreement is to be monitored by a joint working group. [English]

(iv) The Agreement on Quarantine National Marine Fisheries and Plant Protection is to be Development Board implemented by the Ministries of Agriculture of both countries. 115. SHRI A. ASOKA RAJ: Will the This Agreement provides for Minister of FOOD PROCESSING IN- cooperation to prevent the DUSTRIES be pleased to state: penetration of diseases, pests and weeds on plants and plant products. It envisages joint ac- (a) whether the Government pro- tion in issuing phyto sanitary pose to set up a National Marine Fishe- certificates, exchange of infor- ries Development Board for the overal mation, monitoring import, ex- development of the deep sea fishing port and transit of live plants, sector; and seeds, plant products with a view to controlling infectious (b) if so, the time by which the diseases. Board is likely to be set up?

(v) The Veterinary and Sanitary THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Agreement is to be imple- THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESS- mented by the Agricultural ING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN 263 Written Answets JULY 25, 1994 Written Answe/S 264 GOGOI): (a) It is proposed to set up a Fishing Problems In Palk Strait National Marine Fisheries Development Board for the overall development of the 117. SHRI SULTAN SALAHUD- fisheries sector. DIN OWAISI: SHRI MANORANJAN (b) The Board is proposed to be BHAKTA: set up in the 8th Five Year Plan period. SHRI BOLLA BULLI RAMAIAH:

P .M.G. Zones Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: 116. DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS (a) whether Indian fishermen are be pleased to state: free to fish in Palk Strait as per Kachcha- tive agreement; (a) whether the Government pro- pose to create new Post Master General (b) if so, the details thereof; Zones in the country; (c) whether Indian fishermen are (b) whether any survey has been prevented from fishing in Palk Strait; conducted in this regard during the last three years; (d) if so, whether the Govemment had taken up this matter with the Gov- (c) if so, the details thereof, State- ernment of Sri Lanka; and wise; and (e) if so, the latest information in this regard and the results achieved by (d) if not, the reasoos therefor? the Government?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) No, Sir. (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) to (e). Under the Maritime Boundary Agreements of (b) No, Sir. 1974 and 1976 between India and Sri Lanka, the Indian fishermen are free to fish In the Palk Strait on the Indian side (c) Does not arise. of the International Boundary Une (IBl) as delineated by these Agreements. The (d) The existing Postmaster Gen- Agreements also provide for the traditional eral Zones to the country are considered rights of Indian fishermen In respect of eufftcient to meet the need of Postal set the Island of Kachchativu which lies on up. Keeping In view the need for strict the Sri Lankan side of the IBL. The I$sue economy in the Government expenditure of attacks on Indian fl$hermen In the Palk as also administrative exigencies, It 1$ Strait has been taken up strongly by the also not considered necessary to create Government with the Government of Sri any new Postmaster General ZOAe. Lanka. The two sides have agreed to 265 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 266

Implement effectively the measures [Translation] devised to prevent such incidents. All relevant aspects of this matter continue LPG Agencies in Maharashtra under discussion between the two Govemments. 119. SHRI DAnA MEGHE: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Global Crude Price. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

118. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: (a) whether the Government pro- SHRI DHARMANNA pose to set up LPG distributorship at MONDAYVA SADUL: those places where population of more SHRI TEJ NARAYAN than 20,000 exists in Maharashtra; and SINGH: (b) if so, the details thereof? Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE OF state: THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR (a) whether attention of the Gov- SHARMA): (a) and (b). Subject to eco- ernment has been drawn to the news nomic viability and product availability, item captioned ·Spurt in global crude locations having a population of 20,000 priCes sets BOP alarm bells ringing" and above as per 1991 census are appeared in the 'Business Standard' , considered for setting up of LPG New Delhi dated July 2, 1994; distributorships in a phased manner. Accordingly, proposed for setting up 76 (b) if so, the facts of the matter LPG distributorships at different locations reported therein and the reaction of the in Maharashtra have been included in the Government thereto; current LPG Marketing Plan 1992-94.

(c) whether any contingency plan Conversion of Telephone Exchanges has been wof1(ed out to avoid any in Maharashtra adverse effect on the balance of payments; and 120. SHRI VILASRAO NAG- NATHRAO GUNDEWAR: WiD the Minis- (d) if so, the details thereof? ter of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (a) the names of telephone ex- NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR changes in Maharashtra which have not SHARMA): (a) to (d). Imports of crude been converted Into electronic exc:hange8 oil and petroleum products are on the so far, District-wise; and basis of maf1(et refated priCes. The priCes , .. liable to fluctuate from time to time due to various global factol'S. It is too (b) the time by which these ex- early to assess the Impact of such changes are likely to be converted into fluctuations on the 011 Import bill. e~ronic exchanges? 267 Written Answers JULY 25. 1994 Written Answers 268 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF SI. Name of Exchange THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS No. (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Information is given in the enclosed Statement-I. 11. Worli-2 (b) All MAX-III. MAX-II (IF Type) and life expired electro mechanical ex- changes are planned to be converted 12. Prabhadevi-1 into Electronic exchanges by the end of VIII plan as per information given in 13. Shivaji Park-1 Statement-II enclosed.

STATEMENT-I 14. Shivaji Park-2

Non-Electronic Telephone Exchanges 15. Wadala-l of MTNL Bombay

16. Matunga-8 St. Name of Exchange No. 17. Vile Parle-l

1. Cooperage-2 18. Vile Parle-2

2. Cooperage-3 19. Andheri-2 3. Fountain-1 20. MarDl-1 4. Gamdavi-3 21. Marol-2 5. Malabar Hill-1

22. Mankhurd-1 I. Malabar HHI-2

7. Mazgaon-1 23. Ghatkopar

I. Mazgaon-2 24. Mulund-1

9. ~-3 25. Thane-2

10. Worli-1 26. Turbhe-1 269 Written Answers SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 27C

Maharashtra Telecom Circle

SI. Name District No.

1. Ahmednagar Ahmednagar

2. Ahmednagar-MIDC -do-

3. Alkuti -do-

4. Amrapur -do-

5. Bhalwani -do-

6. Bhanbora -do-

7. Chapadgaon -do-

8. Chinchodi Shirai -do-

9. Dahisaone -do-

10. Gabrai -do-

11. Goregaon -do-

12. Hangawadi -do-

13. Jalka -do-

14. Jamgaon -do-

15. Jawala -do-

16. Kanhaur Pathar -do-

17. Kasara Pimplgaon -do-

18. Kharvandi -do-

19. Kher -do-

20. Koigaon -do- 211 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 272

SI. Name District No.

21. Kombhali Ahmednagar

22. Kopargaon -do-

23. Koradgaon -do-

24. Mahijalgaon -do-

25. Maka -do-

26. Mandavsaon -do-

27. Mangalapur -do-

28. Manikddaundi -do-

29. Miri -do-

30. Narayan Bavan -do-

31. Palabhi -do-

32. Lahoore -do-

33. Bangamner -do-

34. ShahatakaJ -do-

35. Shinde -do-

36. Bhriampur -do-

37. Takli Dhokeshwa -do-

38. Visapur -do-

39. Adbgaon -do-

40. Akola Akola

4'. Alegaon -do- 273 Written Answers 8RAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 274

81. Name District No.

42. Andura Akol.}

43. Asegaon Bazar -do-

44. Danapur -do-

45. Dhamikhadi -do-

46. Biroli -do-

47. Hatrun -do-

48. Masalapen -do-

49. Medshi -do-

50. Nimba -do-

51. Rithad Rithad

52. 8helubazar -do-

53. 8hendurian -do-

54. Wadebgaon -do-

55. Adgaon Amravati

56. Amravati -do-

57. Ajangaon (Bari) -do-

58. Asadpur -do-

59. Sadnare -do-

60. Badgaon -do-

61. Kapostalni -do-

62. Rithpur -do- 275 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 276

SI. Name District No.

63. Aurangabad Aurangabad

64. Amalner -do-

65. Dhondrai -do-

66. Parli Vaijanath Aurangabad

67. Takrawan -do-

68. -do-

69. Bhandara Bhandara

70. Chandur-Biswa Buldana

71. Deulgaon-Mail -do-

72. Dhamngaon-Bhade -do-

73. Dongarkhandala -do-

74. Dudha -do-

75. Dusarbid -do-

76. Eklara -do-

77. Hiwara (BK) -do-

78. KaJwad -do-

79. Khamgaon -do-

80. Mera BK -do-

81. Narket -do-

82. Impalgaon-Kale -do-

83. PCT!laJj -d

SI. Name District No.

84. Sharla Buldana

85. Sultanpur -do-

86. Tikdoi -do-

87. Utradeth -do-

88. Buldana -do-

89. Chandrapur Chandrapur

90. Chandrapur-MIDC -do-

91. Khambada -do-

92. Kolari -do-

93. Kotnari -do-

94. Kagrl -do-

95. Pathari -do-

96. Pombhuruna -do-

97. Shamkarpur -do-

98. Bhadane Dhule

99. Bhatpura -do-

100. Boradi .

101. Chilane -do-

102. Dhule -do-

103. Gidhade -do-

104. Hisale -do- I 279 Written Answers JULY 25,1994 Written Answers 280

SI. Name District No.

105. Khandawali Dhule

106. Khekda -do-

107. Kudhawan -do-

108. Lamkani -do-

109. Mahergaon -do-

110. Mod -do-

111. Nimbul -do-

112. Padelde -do-

113. Sule -do-

114. Torkheda -do-

llS. Vadkalambi -do-

116. Wadi Bk -do-

117. Amadade Jalgaon

118. Amalner -do-

119. Anjale -do-

120. Bahadarpur -do-

121. Bhadli -do-

122. Bhugaval -do-

123. Chalibgaon -do-

124. Chandoan -do-

125. Gapukheda -do- 281 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 282

SI. Name District No.

126. Gondagaon Jalgaon

127. Gudhe -do-

128. Matall -do-

129. Idgaon -do-

130. ,Jalgaon -do-

131. Janve -do-

132. Karki -do-

133. Khatora -do-

134. Khadhane -do-

135 Kharchi -do-

136. Kinhi ·do-

137. Lasur -do-

138. lohara -do-

139. Mohiabare -do-

140. Moyakhed (D) -do-

141. Mudi -do-

142. Nanded -do-

143. Nimkhedi -do-

144. Pardnada -do-

145. Pimpal-Koma -do-

146. Salgaon -do- 283 Written Answets JULY 25. 1994 Written Answers 284

SI. Name District No.

147. Salve Jalgaon

148. Sonwad -do-

149. Suhasgaon -do-

150. Janaswadi -do-

151. Umbarkheda -do-

152. Uttkheda -do-

153. Vardi -do-

154. Varkhedi -do-

155. Wakdi -do-

156. Wakdo -do-

157. Dahiwad Jalna

158. Bolapangri -do-

159. Jalna -do-

160. Paradh -do-

161. Patoda -do-

162. Raniunchedaon -do-

163. Satona -do-

164. Bhrishti -do-

165. Ichalkaranji Kolapur

166. Kolapur-I -do-

167. Lamanjam -do- 285 Written Answers 8RAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 286

81. Name District No.

168. Itwari Nagpur

169. Bethogra Nanded

170. Chikhali -do-

171. Kalamban -do-

172. Komari -<10-

173. Kautha -do-

174. Nanded -do-

175. Niwgha -do-

176. Osmanagar -do-

177. Rajura -do-

178. Ratoli -do-

179. 8arsam -do-

180. Oonkuln -do-

181. Talni -do-

182. Umra -do-

183. Waghi -do-

184. Abhar Nasik

185. Ambad (Nasik) -do-

186. 80j -do-

187. Dedlali (Nasik) -do-

188. Dagama -<10- 287 Written Answers JULY 25,1994 Written Answers 288

SI. Name District No.

189. Kalwadi Nasik

190. Kandhana -do-

191. Karanjawan -do-

192. Khadak-Sukene -do-

193. Malebaon -do-

194. Maralboi -do-

195. Mashi -do-

196. Nasik-city -do-

197. Nasik-Road -do-

198. Nimgaon Nasik

199. Sawkarwadi -do-

200. Umrale -do-

201. Vadel -do-

202. Blrgaon -do-

203. Usmanabad Usmanabad

204. Adgaon Parbhani Bazar

205. Boregaon -do-

206. Kanhergaon -do-

207. Mandapur -do-

208. Parbhani -do- 289 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 290

SI. Name District No.

209. Potra Parbhani

210. Rampuri -do-

211. Shelbaon -do-

212. Waranga -do-

213. Ane Pune

214. Baramati -do-

215. Belha -do-

216. Bopgaon -do-

217. Dauno -do-

218. Inamgaon -do-

::>19. Kadus -do-

220. Karde -do-

221. Khed Shivapur -do-

222. Khutbav -do-

223. Koregaon (Bhika) -do-

224. M. Padyl -do-

225. Mandki -do-

226. Nangaon -do-

227. Nira Narsinghpur -do-

228. Pait -do-

229. Pune City-1 -do- 291 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 292

SI. Name District No.

230. Pune City-2 Pune

231. Pune City-3 -do-

232. Pune-M-Shine -do-

233. Pune-Pim-Chind-1 -do-

234. Pune-Shivajinagar -do-

235. Pune-Urali-Kanchan -do-

236. Belgaon -do-

237. Waghapur -do-

238. Abloli Ratnagiri

239. Burar.:!; -do-

240. Dabhil -do-

241. Lavel -do-

242. Palshet -do-

243. Posare -do-

244. Ankali Bambli

245. Billur -do-

246. Jarandi -do-

247. Nandyal -do-

248. Nabaj -do-

249. San-NRI-MIDC -do-

250. Sangli -do- 293 Written Answers SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 294

51. Name District No.

251. Sankh Sang Ii

252. Vita -do-

253. Karad Salara

254. Satara -do-

255. Kudal Sindhudurg

256. Pandharpur Solapur

257. Solapur -do-

258. Bhiwandi Thane

259. Birwadi -do-

260. Dandi -do-

261. Dhakti Dhanu -do-

262. Dhu~alwadi -do-

263. Dolkham -do-

264. Domvivli Thane

265. Edwan -do-

266. Kalyan -do-

267. Pal ghar -do-

268. 5arawali -do-

269. 5henva -do-

270. Ulhabnabar-1 -do-

271. Antora Wardha 295 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 296

SI. Name District No.

272. Kandhali Wardha

273. Mangrul -do-

274. Pimpalguta -do-

275. Sahur -do-

276. Sarvadi -do-

277. Tahnebaon -do-

278. Wardha -do-

279. Anjankhed Yeotmal

280. Badegaon -do-

281. Brahmangaon -do-

282. Karanji -do-

283. Khairi -do-

284. Lohi -do-

285. Mohada -do-

286. Ramnagar -do-

287. Runzo -do-

288. Shembal -do- Pimpri

289. Vasantnagar -do-

290. Yeotmal -do- 297 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 298 STATEMENT-II 3. Buldhana

MAX-I to be replaced by Electronic 4. Yeotmal Exchanges by the end of the VIII Five Year Plan 5. Bhusawal Pune 6. Akkalkot 1. Cantonement 7. Parbhani 2. Shivajinagar 8. Osmanabad 3. City-I, PC Cross-bar 9. Barsi Bombay 10. Shiroli 1. Cooperage-2 11. Karad 2. Cooperage-3 12. Phallan 3. Fountain-1

13. Chiplun 4. Gamddvi-3

Ratnagiri 5. Bycula-3 14.

6. Shivaji Par1<-1 15. Shrirampur

7. Shivaji Par1<-2 16. Kopergaon

8. Matunga-2 17. Satpur

9. Andheri-2 C. MAX-III

10. Thane-2 231 MAX-III exchanges 10 be replaced by electronic exchanges. 11. Turohe-1

{English] List of MAX-II, .exchanges proposed to be replaced by Electronic exchange Telephone in Post Offices of West by the end of the VII Five Year Plan Bengal

1. Khed Shivapur 121. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will 2. Bhandara the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: 299 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 300

(a) the number of Post Offices in (d) if so, the steps being taken to West Bengal with and without telephone conserve these marine resources? facilities, separately; and THE MINISTER OF STATE QF (b) the time by which all Post THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING Offices are likely to be provided with INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): such facility? (a) Assessment of deep sea shlVnp resources along the East Coast was THE MINISTER OF STATE OF made by the ESI, during THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 1980-88. However, no specific survey for (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Number of Post Andhra Pradesh Coast alone has been undertaken. Offices in the West Bengal Circle with telephone facilities is 1323. (b) Potential annual yield of deep sea shrimp has been assessed at 2000 Number of Post Offices in the West tons along the East Coast in the 1 00- Bengal circle without telephone facilities 300 metres depth range. is 7440.

(c) Although data obtained fro.n (b) Govemment have adopted a scientific survey do not indicate any policy to provide public telephone to each definite signs of over fishing of deep sea village. These public telephones are to fishing resources, catch per boaVcatch be provided at suitable places e.g. (1) per unit of effort has come down due to Post Offices (2) Panchayat Head large scale increase in the number of Quarters, (3) Grocer's shops or any different types of vessels. other place easily accessible to public. As Post Office is only one of the suggested locations, no such time has (d) In order to concerve resources been fixed. in the area no new deep sea fishing vessels are allowed to be introduced for shrimping in the upper East Coast. Deep Sea Shrimp Fishing

[Translation] 122. PROF. UMMAREDDY VENKATESWARLU: Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be Assistance to Food Processing Industries pleased to state:

123. SHRI CHHITUBHAI GAMIT: (a) whether any assessment has SHRI LALL BABU RAI: been made of the existing deep-sea SHRI HARI KEWAL shrimp resources off the coast of Andhra PRASAD: Pradesh in 1993-94; SHRI AAJUN SINGH YADAV: (b) if so, the details thereof;

Will the Minister of FOOD (c) whether scientific survey has PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased shown overfishing in that area; and to Slate: 301 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 302

(a) the details of Food Processing [English] units functioning in the tribal areas of the country, State-wise; Machkund Hydro-Electric Project

(b) the subsidy provided to each of these units; and 124. SHRI D. VENKATESWARA RAO: Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: (c) the details of assistance provided under various schemes to Uttar Pradesh and Bihar, during the last three years, (a) whether Machkund Hydr0- year wise? electric project had suspended power generation in the month of May and June, 1994 due to drop in water level THE MINISTER OF STATE OF in the reservoir; THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): (a) Since the food processing are both (b) if so, the details therefor; in the organised and unorganised sectors, details of all food processing units functioning all over the country including (c) the time by which the work is these in the tribal areas, state-wise, is likely to be started; and not maintained centrally. (d) other details in this regard? (b) and (c). Ministry is operating various Plan schemes for development of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE food proceSSing industries in the country MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. including those in the tribal areas. RANGA YYA NAIDU): (a) and (b). Assistance level under some schemes Machkund Hydro-electric project for the tribal areas are 25% more than suspended power generation from in other areas. Year-wise details of 8.6.1994 to 30.6.1994 due to drop in the assistance under the various schemes to water level in the Machkund reservoir. UP and Bihar during the last 3 years are The power house was functioning in the given below:- month of May, 1994.

State Year Amount (c) Machkund Hydro-Electric Project (Rs. in laJchs) started power generation from 1.7.1994 after improvement in the water level in the reservoir. Uttar 1991-92 12.39 Pradesh 1992-93 66.30 1993-94 20.48 (d) The generation in the months of May & June, 1994 was 23 MU & 5 MU respectively against target of 40 MUs BIhar 1991-92 9.65 for each month. The generation in July, 1992-93 Nil 1994 upto 15th July, 1994 was 21 MU 1993-94 33.628 against target of 24 MU. 303 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 304

[Translation J THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) and (b). In Financial Position of SEBs accordance with Section 59 of the Electricity (Supply) Act, 1948, the State Electricity Boards (SEBs) are required to 125. SHRI UPENDRA NATH achieve a surplus of not less than 3% VERMA: Will the Minister of POWER be of the net fixed assets at the beginning pleased to state: of the year. Based on the annual accounts of the SEBs for the year 1992-93, out of the 17 Boards, only six SEBs, namely, (a) whether the financial position of State Electricity Boards of the country is Haryana, Punjab, West Bengal, Assam, Meghalaya and Orissa have not been not sound and these Boards are burdened with heavy financial debts; and able to achieve the 3% Rate of Retum. As per the available information, details of the Govemment loans and other loans (b) if so, the State-wise details of the SEBs, as on 31.3.1993, are as thereof? enclosed in the Statement.

STATEMENT

The Government and other loans of the SEBs as on 31.3.1993

(Rs. in Crores)

Name of the SEB Govt. Loans Other Loans Total Loans

(1) (2) (3) (4)

MPEB 2417.40 3309.90 5727.30

PSEB 3028.50 755.70 3784.20

MSEB 3959.20 3054.90 7014.10

APSE8 2165.03 1626.62 3791.65

GEB 2568.80 1670.80 4239.60

KEB 437.70 503.80 941.50

KSEB 5:;O.~ 615.30 1153.60

RSEB 1178.61 1320.25 2498.86 305 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 306

(1 ) (2) (3) (4)

WBSEB 93.68 2001.22 2094.90

UPSEB 7618.52 4851.94 12470.46

OSEB 548.08 684.97 1233.05

HSEB 681.51 1252.95 1934.46

TNEB 920.06 2181.92 3101.98

BSEB 191-92) 1073.90 1951.28 3025.18

ASEB (Est.) 593.70 700.60 1294.30

Total 27822.99 26482.15 54305.14

Note: Information regarding HPSEB and Meghalaya SEB is not available.

Minerals Excavated in Rajasthan of mineral excavation industry in the State? 126. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT: Will the Minister of MINES be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE OF to state: THE MINISTRY OF MINES (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAV): (a) Details of Mineral production for the year (a) the details of Minerals excavated 1989-90, 1990-91 & 1991-92 are given in Rajasthan during the last three years; in the enclosed Statement.

(b) the details of these minerals (b) and (c). No State wise break- exported from the State during the above up of minerals exported and the income period; therefrom is maintained.

(d) A liberalised National Mineral (c) the income eamed by Rajasthan Policy was announced in March, 1993 Government through these exports; and and the same followed by amendments of the MM(R&D) Act, 1957 so as to make (d) the steps being taken by the investment in mineral sector more Government for developmenUexpansion attractive. 307 Written Answers JULY 25. 1994 Written Answers 308 'S CD .- 0 « M t:: ::I ~ Z ~ 01 ~ ~ ~ III "'iii oj C\i C\i ..; N > - i M 0 ~ N ~ 0 cD cD ,..: ..; oj N 10 N 10 -s 10

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(English] (d) the time by when the project 1$ likely to be implemented? Post Offices in Kerala THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 127. PROF. SAVITHRI THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE LAKSHMANAN: Will the Minister of TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (a) Yes, Sir.

(a) whether the Government (b) The estimated cost of the project propose to open more new Post Offices is Rs. 238.14 crores. in rural areas of Kerala;

(c) No, Sir. (b) if so, the details thereof, District- wise; and (d) The project is expected to be completed within 30 months. (c) if not. the reasons therefor?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF [Translation] THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes Sir. Computers in Post Offices

(b) The targets for the current Plan 129. SHRIMATI BHAVNA 1994-95 have not yet been finilised. CHIKHALlA: SHRI BALRAJ PASSI: (c) Question does not arise in SHRI PANKAJ views of (a) above. CHOWDHARY:

Mangalore Port Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: 128. SHRIMATI CHANDRA PRABHA URS: Will the Minister of (a) whether the Government have SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to taken steps to compute rise the sorting state: out of mail in some cities;

(a) whether the Government (b) if so, the details thereof; propose to upgrade the existing oil jetty at Mangalore port to handle LPG and (c) whether some more cities are other Uquid cargo; proposed to be brought under computerisation during the current year; (b) if so, the estimated cost of the project; (d) if so, the details thereof, State- wise; and (c) whether Mangalore Oil Refinery has agreed to share the cost of the (e) the expenditure likety to be proposed project; and incurred thereon? 317 Written Answers SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 318

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (c) if so, the steps taken to clear THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS the waiting list? (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. An Automatic Mail Processing System THE MINISTER OF STATE OF consisting of two Sorting Machines, a THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS manual Coding Desk and ancillary (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) The number of machines has been installed at Bombay persons on waiting list as on 30.6.94 in Airport Sorting Office and it is in operation Kamataka, District-wise is given in the since April 1993. The total cost of enclosed Statement. installation of the system at Bombay was about Rs. 22 crores, including Customs (b) and (c). National Telecom Policy duty, building and other charges. 1994 envisages to provide telephone connections on demand by 1-4-97. Exchanges are being planned accordingly (c) to (e). Orders have been placed to meet the above objective. During tor an automatic mail processing system 1994-95 a target of providing 79,000 new at Madras and it is expected to be telephone connections has been fixed for installed at Madras Airport Sorting Office Kamataka Telecom Circle. Efforts are by the end of the year. It is proposed also being made to procure additional to instal similar systems at Delhi, equipment on lease to reduce the backlog Bangalore and a few other mail of waiting list by end of the year. concentration centres is due course. The cost of the system to be installed at Madras Airport Sorting Office will be STATEMENT approximately Rs. 10 crores excluding Customs duty, building and other charges. SI. Name of the Total Waiting No. District Ust [English]

1. Bangalore 107008 Telephone Connections in Karnataka 2. Dakshina Kannada 19700

3. Mysore 9422 130. SHRI V. DHANANJAYA KUMAR: Will the Minister of 4. Hubli. 6696 COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: 5. Belgaum 5132

~a) the number of persons on the 1036 waiting list for telephone connections in 6. Sellary Kamataka, District-wise; 7. Bedar 886

(b) whether the new telecom policy 8. Bijapur 1412 envisages immediate telephone connection to the applicants; and 9. Gulba!:2a 2030 319 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 320

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF SI. Name of the Total Waiting THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND No. District List NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) There is no such proposal 10. Raichur 769 at present.

11. Davangere 2905 (b) and (c). Do not arise.

12. Hassam 2309 Production from Bombay High

13. Mandya 1136 132. SHRI MOHAN RAWALE: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND 14. Kolar 2641 NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

(a) whether the Oil and Natural 15. Tumkur 3212 Gas Corporation has invited offers from foreign companies to increase the Chickmagalur 1844 16. production from Bombay High;

17. Madikeri 2409 (b) if so, the details and terms and conditions thereof; 18. Shimoga 3843 (c) the particulars of offers from 19. North Canara 242:3 foreign companies received by ONGC;

(d) whether these foreign companies Total 176813 are demanding a share in the entire crude output of Bombay High; and

LPG Pipelines in Gujarat (e) if so, the reaction of the Govemment thereto? 131. SHRI HARIN PATHAK: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE OF the Minister of PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) to (e). ONGC had (a) whether the Government ascertained the interest of companies propose to lay LPG pipelines in with adequate technological and financial Ahmedabad, Baroda, Surat, Rajkot and capabilities for additional development of Gandhidham cities of Gujarat; the Bombay High field. Five bids have been received by the last date for receipt of bids of 1oth April, 1994. (b) if so, the details thereof; and The companies which have (c) by when the consumers in indicated interest are Amoco, Chevron, these cities are likely to be provided LPG Occidental and Arco (all of the USA) and through pipelines? Total of France. 321 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 322

The bids are under evaluation by Bombay High Petroleum Products ONGC. 134. SHRI ANNA JOSHI: Will the [Translation] Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

Manufacture of LPG Cylinders (a) the total investment made in the Bombay High Petroleum Products Project 133. SHRI RAJVEER SINGH: Will at Bombay; the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) the turnover of the project for 1991-92; 1992-93 and 1993-94 and the projected turnover for 1994-95; (a) the total number of L.P.G. cylinders manufactured in the country during the last three years; (c) the reasons for low turnover during the previous year;

(b) whether the persons in the (d) whether the products of the waiting list for L.P.G. connections are not project have good demand in the domestic getting L.P .G. inspite of availability of and international market; L.P.G. cylinders; and

(e) if so, the details thereof; and (c) if so, the measures adopted by the Government to provide L.P .G. (f) the measures taken or proposed connection? to be taken to exploit the potential to the maximum? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND SHARMA): (a) During 1991-92 to 1993- NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR 94 Government Oil Companies procured SHARMA): (a) The total investment made 81.56 lakhs LPG cylinders from the in Bombay offshore Project as on 31 st cylinder manufacturing units. January, 1994 was Rs. 20047 crores.

(b) and (c). The LPG connections (b) The gross revenue from the provided to waitttsted persons depend Bombay offshore project during the year not only upon availability of cylinders but. 1991 -92, 1992-93, 1993-94 was Rs. 5933 inter alia, on product availability, slack crores, Rs. 6205 crores and Rs. 6741 available with existing distributors and crores (Prov.), respectively. The projected planned enrolment of new customers. revenue for the year , 994-95 is Efforts are constantly on to release LPG Rs. 8306.73 crores. connections to as many applicants and as early as possible, by ensuring (C) Does not arise, as revenue for enhanced availability of LPG from the year 1993-94 was more than that for indigenous sources and imports. the year 1992-93. 323 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 324

(d) and (e). ONGC is producing (b) and (c). The Government of crude oil and natural gas from Bombay Bangladesh have not yet reacted offshore fields which have a ready positively to our proposals. demand. (English] (f) A number of schemes for increasing crude oil and natural gas Power Projects production from Bombay High have been taken up. These include - (i) development 136. SHRI HARISH NARAYAN of some new fields namely Neelam, PRABHU ZANTYE: Will the Minister of South Heera; and (ii) additional POWER be pleased to state: development of some existing fields namely L-II and L-ili. Similarly, additional development of Bassein free gas field (a) the details of the power projects has also been taken up. cleared during the last two years with salient features like cost, capacity, time profile, location, State-wise for thermal [Translation] and Hydro projects, separately;

Transport Facilities through (b) the projected demand and Bangladesh production of power during the 8th Plan, State-wise and efforts being made to 135. SHRIMATI PRATIBHA meet the same in general and for Goa DEVISINGH PATIL: Will the Minister of State in particular; EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleasen to state: (c) the steps taken for improvement (a) whether the Govemment are of the working of State Electricity Boards negotiating with Bangladesh in regard to and results achieved therefrom; transport facilities through that country to the North Eastern States; (d) the break-up of the foreign investment/assistance committed so farl (b) if so, the outcome of the under consideration in power projects; negotiations held so far; and and

(c) the time by which this is likely (e) the details of the projects under to be finalised? active consideration for approval from various State?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. (SHRI R.l. BHATIA): (a) The Govemment RANGAYVA NAIDU): (a) Details are of India have been interested in securing given in the Statement-' attached. multi-modal transit facilities through the Bangladesh territory to the North Eastem States and have taken up the matter with (b) The State-wise anticipated power the Governrnent of Bangladesh on a supply position in the terminal year of 8th number of occasions. Plan is given in the Statement-II attached. 325 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 326

Various efforts being made to of energy from surplus to deficit ares, improve the power supply position include and promotion of private sector investment expediting commissioning of new in the power sector. generating capacity, improving the performance of the existing power There is no power generating utility stations, reduction of transmission and in Goa State. However, the power supply distribution losses, implementation of position in the State of Goa is as better demand management and energy follows:- conservation measures, arranging transfer

Demand Availability Surplus/ % Decifict

Peak MW 185 236 +51 +27.3

Energy MU 932 1960 +1028 +110.3

(c) A number of measures have SI. Agency/Country Loan/Grant been initiated to improve the functioning No. (In D.C.) of the State Electricity Boards. These, inter-alia, include signing and monitoring of Operational and Financial Action Plan 4. CANADA 194.07 (OFAP) by Power Finance Corporation 5. FRANCE 1903.43 (PFC), rationalisation of tariff, regular payment of rural electrification subsidy by 6. JAPAN (LOAN) 386990.00 the State Govemments, improvement in Plant Load Factor and Plant availability, 7. KUWAIT FUND 7.0 reduction in transmission and distribution losses, conversion of State Govemment 8. SAUDI FUND 172.00 loans into equity, etc. 9. SWEDEN 1480.00 (d) The break-up of the foreign 10. U.K. 222.99 investment/assistance committed so far/ under consideration in power projects is 11. GERMAN 1871.31 as follows:- 12. JAPAN (GRANT) 148.50 (in millions) In addition, in response to 51. AgencylCountry Loan/Grant Govemment of India's policy, interest has No. (In D.C.) been expressed by the private enterpreneurs in putting up 75 power 1. IDA 583.49 projects involving an approximate investmetn of Rs. 1,04,152 crores. 2. IBRD 6205.32 (e) Details are given in the 3. ADS 990.00 Statement-III attached. 327 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 328 STATEMENT-I

List of Scheme cleared by CEA during the past two years

SI. Name of Scheme Capacity Cost No. (MW) (Rs. crs.)

A. THERMAL

Uttar Pradesh

1 . Unchahar TPS SI. III. 2x210 1154.34 (Distt. Raibareli)

Gujarat

2. Gandhinagar TPS Extn. 1x210 682.00 (Distt. Gandhinagar)

Kerala

3. Kasarkode DG Sets 3x20 178.00 (Distt. Kasarkode)

Bihar

4. Muzaffarpur TPS Extn. 2x250 1452.13 SI. II (Distt. Muzaffarpur)

Tripura

5. Agartala DG Sets 4x21 295.83 (Distt. West Tripura)

Bihar

6. Katihar TPS 2x250 1783.00 (Distt. Katihar) west Bengal

7. Kolaghat TPS 1x25 9686.00 329 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 330

SI. Name of Scheme Capacity Cost No. (MW) (Rs. crs.)

A&N Islands

8. Diesel Power Station 4x5 69.94 at Bamboo Flat-Port Olair-South Andaman

B. PRIVATE

Northern Region

Himachal Pradesh

1 . Baspa HE Project 3x100 949.23 Distt. Kinnaur (MIs Jaiprakash Ind.)

Western Region

Maharashtra

2. Dabhol GICC TPS 2015 9051.27 Distt. Ratnagiri (MIs Oabhol Power Co. & Enron Dev. Corp.)

Gujarat

3. Gandhar (Paguthan) OCGT 655 2298.14 Distt. Bharuch MIs. Gujarat Torrent Energy Corpn. Ltd.

Madhya Pradesh

4. Pench TPS 2x210 1272.23 Distt. Chindwara MIs. Century Power

5. Maheshwar Hydro 10x40 1073.00 Electric Project 331 Written Answers JULY 25,1994 Written Answers 332

SI. Name of Scheme Capacity Cost No. (MW) (Rs. crs.)

South em Region

Andhra Pradesh

6. Jegurupdu GTCC TPS 216 827.00 Distt. East Godavari MIs GVK Industries

7. Godavari GICC TPS 208 748.43 Distt. East Godavari MIs Spectrum Power Generation Ltd.

C. HYDEL

SI. No. Name of Scheme Cost. Installed Location (Rs. Cr.) Capacity (State) (MW)

1. Chambera St. II 1025.18 3x100=300 H.P.

2. Purlia PSS 1456.66 4x225-900 W.B.

3. Tuirial 158.95 2x30=60 Mizoram

4. Pamai 143.00 3x12.50=37.50 J&K

5. Loktak DIS 349.00 3x30=90 Manipur

6. Bargam Canal 28.37 3x3=9 Orissa

7. Sawalkot 1550.35 3x200=600 J&K

8. Keogal. 50.47 2x6=12 H.P.

9. Matana 214.78 2x43=86 H.P.

10. Teesta St. V 1445.96 3x170:510 Sikkim

11. Mamikeda 106.94 2x20=40 H.P. 333 Written Answers SAAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 334

SI. Name of Scheme Cost Installed Location No. (As. Crore) Capacity (MW) (State)

12. Tuivat 659.27 3x70=210 Mizoram

13. Maheshwar 1073.00 10x40=400 (Private Sector)

14. Omkreshwar 1216.95 8x65=520 M.P.

STATEMENT-II

Anticipated Power Supply Position during the 8th Five Year Plan

Aegion/State/UT Energy Requirement Energy Availability (MU) (MU)

Haryana 15183 11254

Himachal Pradesh 3254 2831

Jammu & Kashmir 5836 7317

Punjab 23851 21488

Rajasthan 22232 12463

Uttar Pradesh 43957 38712

Chandigarh 859 436

Delhi 14416 16275

Total (NA) 129587 114188

Gujarat 33645 27645

Madhya Pradesh 28104 26251

Maharashtra 58036 52613 .

Goa 932 1960 335 Written Answers JUL Y 25, 1994 Written Answers 336

RegionlStatelUT Energy Requirement Energy Availability (MU) (MU)

D. & N. Haveli 313 54

Daman & Diu 130 50

Total (WR) 121159 1-12417

Andhra Pradesh 35062 24375

Kamataka 24188 20228

Kerala 11893 8322

Tamil Nadu 30528 27786

Pondicherry 1519 770

Total (SR) 103191 84173

Bihar 1219C 10767

Orissa 14919 11856

West Bengal 17159 18605

DVC 11670 15446

Sikkim 72 390

Total (ER) 56011 59125

Arunachal Pradesh 199 340

Assam 4264 5619

Manlpur 426 391

Meghalaya 454 659

Mizoram 193 198

NaaaIand 200 372 337 Written Answers SAAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 338

Aegion/State/UT Energy Aequirement Energy Availability (MU) (MU)

Tripura 432 492

Total (NEA) 6169 8601

A & N Islands 140 105

Lakshadeep 17 18

All India 416274 378626

STATEMENT-III

Schemes under Examination in CEA a Private Sector

SI. Name of the Project Estimated No. Capacity, Fuel Distt. Cost & Name of the Promoter as per PA (As. Crs.)

Northern Region

Rajasthan 1 . Chittorgarh TPS 1384.0 - lx500 MW - Coal - Distt. Chittorgarh - MIs Century Textiles & Industries Ltd.

Eastern Region

Orissa 2. Dubri TPS·· 1548.7 - 2x250 MU - Coal - Distt. Cuttack - MIs Kalinga Power Corpn. Ltd. (With Equity Participation by Mis. North East Energy Services Inc. USA 339 Written Answers JULY 25; 1994 Written Answers 340

SI. Name of the Project Estimated No. Capacity, Fuel Distt. Cost & Name of the Promoter as per PR (Rs. Crs.)

3. 1 B Valley TPS" Unit 3&4 2077.1 - 2x210 MW - Coal - Distt. Sambalpur (A Joint Venture Between AES Transpower-a sub- sidiary of AES Corpn. USA & OPGCl).

Bihar

4. Jojobera TPS 1239.77 5 NW - 3x67 - Coal - Distt. East Singbum - Mis Jamshedpur Power Co. Ltd. (Promoted by TlSCO & TELCO).

5. Chandil TPS 1379 2 x 250 MW - Coal - Distt. Singbum Mis RPG Enterprises.

West Bengal

6. Gouripore TPS 500.00 - 2x67.5 MW - Coal - Distt. 24 Parganas North - Mis Gouripore Power Co. LId. (Promoted by WBSEB and Birta Technical Services.)

7. Balagarh TPS 1671.48 Units 1 & 2 - 2x25O MW • Coal - Oistt. Hooghly • Mis CESC Ltd, 341 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 342

SI. Name of the Project Estimated No. Capacity, Fuel Distt. Cost & Name of the Promoter as per PR (Rs. Crs.)

North-East Region

Arunachal Pradesh

8. Kharsang Gas Engine 31.00 based TPS - 2x4 MW - Gas - Distt. Changlang - MIs Intercorp Industries Ltd.

Western Region

Maharashtra

9. Khaperkheda TPS Unit 5 & 6 1353 - 2x210 MW - Coal - Distt. Nagpur - MIs Aranco Line Shipping Co. Ltd. Valetta, Malta

10. Bhadravati TPS 5235.2 - 2x500 MW - Coal - Distt. Chandrapur - Mis Nipplon Group, India, CEG, UK and EDF. France.

Gujarat

11. Mangrol (Lignite) TPS 1082.81 • 1x250 MW · Lignite • Distt. Sural · MIs Gujarat Power Corpn. ltd.

12. Hazira GICC TPS 1650.00 • 500 MW • Naphtha • DiSH. Surat • Mis Essar Power Ltd. ~Pfom()\ed O'i ~s tssat Gu\ara\ l\o.) )43 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 344

SI. Name of the Project Estimated No. Capacity, Fuel Distt. Cost & Name of the Promoter as per PR (Rs. Crs.)

13. Power Plat (GICC for GIPCl) 415.25 - 145 MW - NaphthalDistiliate/Gas - Distt. Baroda - Mis Gujarat Industries Power Co. ltd.

Madhya Pradesh

14. Korba (West) TPS 1600.45 Unit 5 & 6 - 2x210 MW - Coal - Distt. Bilaspur - Mis India Thermal Power Ltd. promoted by Mis Mukund ltd.

Southern Region

Tamil Nadu

15. Cuddalore TPS 5575.00 - 2x535 MW - Coal - Distt. South Arcot - Mis CuddaJore Power Co. (Consortium of foreign and Indian Companies led by Mis Intemational Contracting and Marketing Corpn. USA)

16. Neyveli (Zero Unit) TPS - 1 x 250 MW - Lignite - Distt. South Arcot - Mis ST -eMS Electric Co., Power Systems, USA and CMS Generation, USA. 345 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 346

SI. Name of the Project Estimated No. Capacity, Fuel Distt. Cost & Name of the Promoter as per PR (Rs. Crs.)

Kamataka

17. Mangalore TPS 4776.84 - 6x167 MW - Coal - Distt. Dalkshin Kannada - MIs Mangalore Power Co. (A subsidiary of Cogentrix. Inc. USA and General Electric Capital Corporation)

Andhra Pradesh

18. Visahakhapatnam TPS 5817.00 - 2x500 MW - Coal - Distt. Vishakhapatnam - Promoted by MIs Ashok Leyland Ltd., India and National pic of UK.

SI. Name of the sc"~me Capacity Estimated Cost No. and District (MW) Rs. Cr.

B. THERMAL

Rajasthan

1. Suratgam TPS St. II 2x25O 2129.20 - Distt. Sriganganagar

Gujarat

1. Wanakbori TPS Extn. (U-7) 1x210 657.83 - Distt. Kheda

2. Ugnite Based TPS at 2x120 1163.22 Akrlmota - Distt. Kutch 347 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 348

SI. Name of the scheme Capacity Estimated Cost No. and District (MW) As. Cr.

3. Lignite based TPS at Ghogha 2x120 856.22 - Distt. Bhavnagar

Andhra Pradesh

1. Krishnapatnam TPS Sf. 2x250 4365.41 - Distt. Nellore

2. Aamagundam TPS Ex1n. 2x250 1673.73 - Distt. Karimnagar

3. Simhadri TPS 2x500 3100.88 - Distt. Vishakhapatnam

Kerala

1. Kozhikode DGPP at Eddakkara 120 357.00 near Thalkalathur - Distt. Kozhikode

Tamil Nadu

1. Diesel Engine Power Plant 100 302.93 at Samalpatti - Distt. Dharmapuri

C. HYOEL

Andhra Pradesh

1. Nagarjuna Sagar 50 273.02 Tail Pond Dam HE. - Distt. Nalgonda & Gundoor

Assam

1. Kerbi Leagoi (Lower Sorpan;) 100 284.30 (Karbi AnaIong) 349 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 350

SI. Name of the scheme Capacity Estimated Cost No. and District (MW) Rs. Cr.

Himachal Pradesh

1. Parbati SI. " 800 1115.80 Dislt. Kullu

2. Parbati SI. III 501 660.14 - Dislt. Kullu

3. Renuka Dam MPP 40 93.84 - Dislt. Sirmur

Jammu & Kashmir

1. Ans SI. " 30 110.83 - Dislt. Dharmari

2. Shitkari Kulan 84 383.43 - Dislt. Sri nagar

Karnataka

1. Varahi Tail Race 15 65.42 - Dislt. Dakshna t

Kerat.

1. Adirappally 160 150.16 - Distt. Thrisur

Madhya Pradesh

1. Gandhi Sagar PH " 160 228.60 - Distt. Mandsaur

Maharaahtn

1. Chikhaldhara 400 513.40 - Distt. Amravatl 351 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 352

SI. Name of the scheme Capacity Estimated Cost No. and District (MW) Rs. Cr.

Orissa

1. Sindol 320 2246.14

2. Hirakud-B and Chiplima-B 408 1339.65 - Distt. Sambalpur

Punjab

1. Shahpurkandi 168 945.45 - Distt. Gurdaspur

Uttar Pradesh

1. Gori Ganga St. III A&B 140 396.27 - Distt. Pithoragarh

2. Bowala Nand Prayag 132 380.66 - Distt. Chamoli

3. Tapovan Vishungad 360 55562 - Distt. Chamoli

4. Vishnu Prayag 400 868.00 - Distt. Chamoli

West Bengal

1. Raman St. III 60 169.07 - Distt. Darjeeling

Electronic Exchanges In Gujarat (b) if so, the reasons therefor;

137. SHRI KASHIRAM RANA: Will (c) the steps taken by the the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Government to remove such difference; pleased to state: and

(8) whether the standard of (d) the number of modem and telephone exchanges in Gujarat is lower electronic telephone exchanges in Gujarat than oIher States; in comparison to other States? 353 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 354

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF possible to met the full demand of States THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS due to restricted availability of Kerosene (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) No, Sir. in the Country, foreign eXChange constraints, and heavy subsidies involved. (b) and (c). Does not arise. Kerosene, however, is now being (d) The number of modem and imported under the parallel marketing electronic exchanges in Gujarat as on scheme for sale at market prices. 31-3-94 is 1048 which works out to 83% Kerosene is available in open market in of the total number of exchanges in the Gujarat. State as compared to the All-India percentage of 83.6%. (d) The monthly demand made by Gujarat Govemment for kerosene for the {Translation] fishing industry is 1946 MTs. The total allocation of Kerosene to Gujarat for the Kerosene to Gujarat year 1990-94 was 790313 MTs including 390 MTs for fishing industry. 138. SHRI RATILAL KALIDAS VARMA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM {English] AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Oil Refining Capacity (a) whether the Govemment of Gujarat has sent a proposal for allocation 139. SHRI JAGMEET SINGH of required quantity of Kerosene for SRAR: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM fishing industry; AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) if so, whether the Union Government propose to allocate required (a) whether the Govemment have quantity of Kerosene to the State; fixed target regarding setting up of oil refineries during the Eighth plan period; (c) if not, the reasons therefor; and (b) if so, details thereof; (d) the monthly demand of kerosene for fishing industry in Gujarat, and the (c) the total oil refining capacity set quantity supplied to Gujarat during 1993- up by the end of 1993-94 in the country; 94?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (d) the percentage of this capacity THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND used in refining of indigenous crude oil NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR during 1991-92, 1992-93 and 1993-94; SHARMA): (a) Yes, Sir. (e) whether some quantity of crude (b) and (c). Kerosene is a defICit oil is also produced in 1he country which product and more than 40% of our is not refined in the incftgenous oil requir&ment is met by imports. It is not refineries; and 355 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 356 (f) if so, the quantity of crude oil Service Tax sent to foreign countries during 1991-92, 1992-93 and 1993-94 for refining? 140. SHRI SHRAVAN KUMAR PATEL: Will the Minister of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR (a) whether Mahanagar Telephone SHARMA): (a) and (b). The project Nigam Ltd., has decided to pass the demand of Petroleum products from the burden 'service tax' levied under the year 2001-2002 is estimated to be 'Budget on Telephone Companies! approximately 102 MMTPA. Present Corporations, to the consumers; and refining capacity in the country is 53.4 MMTPA. Considering the proposed expansion of existing refineries and based (b) if so, the reasons therefor? on the LOI issued till now to various parties, the refining capacity is expected THE MINISTER OF STATE OF to increase to around 119 MMTPA for THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS meeting the estimated demand of (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). The petroleum products by 2001-2002. Service Tax is recovered from the subscribers of Telephone Connection as (c) The total refining capacity in the per Finance Act, 1994 and rules made country by the p.nd of 1993-94 is 53.40 there-under. MMTPA. [Translation] (d) the percentage of indigenous crude oil out of total crude refined during Talks with United Arab Emirates the last three years is as under:-

141. SHRI PANKAJ CHOWDHARY: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Years Percentage be pleased to state:

1991-92 54.7 (a) whether any political level talks were held recently with United Arab Emirates; 1992-93 45.2

(b) if so, whether the issue of 1993-94 43.7 extradition treaty was also discussed during the course of negotiations between the two countries; (e) No, Sir.

(c) whether any agreement has (f) Does not arise. been reached between the two countries in regard t~reto; and 357 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 358

(d) if so, the details thereof? Silk Mines in Orissa

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 143. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS Will the Minister of STEEL be pleased (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) and (b). No to state: recent talks at pOlitical level have been held with UAE. However, the issue of (a) the list of sick iron ore and Extradition Treaty, which was first manganese ore mines in Orissa; discussed at the meeting of the Indo- UAE Joint Commission in New Delhi in January 1994, was considered at technical (b) the reasons for the sickness of level discussions in Abu Dhabi on these mines; and February 7-8, 1994, with a view to concluding an Extradition Tieaty. (c) the details of the steps taken for their revival? (c) No agreement has yet been reached and both sides are now evaluating the results of negotiations held in February 1994. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) According (d) Does not arise. to the information furnished by the Government of Orissa, 4 iron ore mines {English} each in Mayurbhanj and Sundargarh Districts and 2 iron ore mines in Keonjhar District are reported to be closed. LPG Price by Private Sector Likewise, 2 manganese ore mines are reported to be closed in Sundargarh 142. SHRI S.M. LAWAN BASHA: District. List of these mines is shown in Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND the enclosed Statement. Production in NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: some other mines is also stated to have fallen during the year 1993 as compared to the production in the year 1992. (a) whether the prices of LPG through private parallel market system is cheaper than that supplied by the public (b) The reason for closure and fall sector; and in production in the mines is reported to be mainly the decline in export and (b) if so, the reasons therefor? domestic demand.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (c) Some of the mines owners are THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND reported to be making efforts to prepare NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR calibrated iron ore which at present has SHARMA): (a) and (b). The products a better market. Improvement market imported under the Parallel Market System conditions will also help in the revival of can be sold at market determined prices. the mines. There is no price control by Government. 359 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 360

STATEMENT

SI. Name of the lessee Location of mine No.

Iron Ore Mines

1. Partha Das Maharajpur, Distt. Mayurbhanj

2. J.K. Chaubey Parunapani-Bhuyanbasa, Distt. Mayurbhanj

3. J.K. Chaubey Budhrajpahar, Distt. Mayurbhanj

4. Late R.K. Padia Badamarinda, Distt. Mayurbhanj

5. Orissa Mining Kasira, Distt. Sundargarh Corporation

6. Orissa Mining Bhanjapali, Distt. Sundargarh Corporation

7. A.M.T.C. Narayanposi, Distt. Sundargarh

8. S.D. Sharma Railela, Distt. Sundargarh

9. Mineral Trading Bhalubeda, Distt. Keonjhar Syndicate

10. M.A. Das Bhalubeda, Distt. Keonjhar

Manganese Ore Mines

1. U.C. Mishra Kusumdihi, Distt. Sundargartl

2. B.1. Company Kusumdihl, Distt. Sundargarh

SchoIarahip to Foreign Students (8) the country-wlse number 01 for study In India foreign students nominated and provided scholarships by the Government for study in Jndia during a year; and 144. SHRI PREM CHAND RAM: Will the Minister of EXTERNAl AFFAIRS (b) the number of such students be pleased to state: from Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and 361 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 362 other neighbouring countries during each utilised by foreign students during of the last three years? 1993-94 is enclosed.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) A Statement-II showing MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS scholarships utilised during the last three (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) Statement-I years by neighbouring countries is also showing country-wise slots offered and enclosed.

STATEMENT-I

Countrywise slots offered and utilised by foreign students during 1993-1994

51. Country Offered Utilised No.

1. Afghanistan 8 8

2. Algeria 3 2

3. Australia 7 2

4. Azerbaijan 2

5. Arab Republic of Egypt 12 6

6. Bhutan 6 6

7. Bangladesh 113 100

8. Belgium 3

9. Barbados 2

10. Bulgaria 2

11. Bahrain 4

12. Czechoslovakia 5

13. China 25 17

14. Canada 2

15. Cyprus 4 3 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 364

SI. Country Offered Utilised No.

16. Combodia 2

17. Cameroon

18. Dominica

19. Ethiopia 11 3

20. France 16 13

21. Fiji 11 7

22. Greece 2

23. Ghana 8 4

24. Germnay

25. Gambia 8 7

26. Guyana 5 2

27. Hungary 3 2

28. Iraq 13 10

29. Iran 3

30. Israel

31. Italy 5 4

32. Indonesia 15 15

33. Japan 8 5

34. Jordan 6 3

35. Jamaica 2

36. Kenya 20· 13 365 Written Answers 8RAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 366

81. Country Offered Utilised No.

37. Kuwait

38. Khazakhistan 5

39. Khyrgistan

40. Lesotho

41. Laos 2

42. LJbanon

43. Maldives 7

44. Myanmar 7 5

45. Mauritius 51 38

46. Malaysia 9 3

47. Mexico 4 3

48. Mongolia 10 10

49. Malta 2 2

50. Morocco 0

51. Norway 4

52. Nigeria 12

53. Nethertands 3

54. New Zealand 2

55. Nepal 92 90

56. Namibia 4

57. North Korea 367 Written Answers JULY 25. 1994 Written Answers 368

SI. Country Offered Utilised No.

58. Oman

59. Poland 8

60. Phillippines 5 4

61. Portugal 2

62. Pakistan 2

63. Palestine 8 3

64. Qatar

65. Romania 3

66. Russia 8 8

67. Syria 8 6

68. Somalia 5 5

69. Sudan 6 5

70. Sri Lanka 60 44

71. South Korea 3 2

72. Saudi Arabia

73. Sweden 2

74. Spain 5 3

75. Senegal

76. South Africa 15 4

n. Seychelles

78. SADA 2 369 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 370

SI. Country Offered Utilised No.

79. South Pacific Island 2

80. Suriname 2

81. Turkey 4

82. Thailand 15 16

83. Tanzania 6 6

84. Trinidad & Tobago 6 4

85. T adjikistan 2

86. Tunisia

87. Turkmenistan 2

88. Uganda 12 9

89. Uzbekistan 7 5

90. United Kingdom 2 2

91. UAE

92. Vietnam 17 14

93. Yemen 27 24

94. Zambia 7 2

95. Zimbabwe 15

96. Zaire 3 3

Total 837 563 371 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 372 STATEMENT-II

Scholarships utilised for the last three years by neighbouring countries

SI. Country 1991-92 1992-93 1993-94 No. Utilised Utilised Utilised

1 . Afghanistan 10 14 8

2. Bangladesh 78 112 100

3. Bhutan 2 2 6

4. China 17 15 17

5. Maldives 8

6. Mauritius 39 42 38

7. Mynamar 4 3 5

8. Nepal 85 83 90

9. Sri Lankda 54 64 44

1o. Pakistan

Total 298 336 308

Inland Water Transport in Kerala TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) and (b). A scheme to modernise 55 145. SHRI THAYIL JOHN jetties for passenger ferries in the ANJALOSE: Will the Minister of SURFACE waterways to be implemented by the TRANSPORT be pleased to state: Govt. of Kerala was sanctioned by the Govt. of India as Centrally Sponsored (a) the total amount provided to Scheme at a cost of Rs. 136.38 lakhs Kerala by the Union Government for the in January, 93. A request from the State development of Inland water transport Govt. for release or funds during 1994- system in Eighth Five Year Plan; and 95 has not been received so far.

(b) the details of progress achieved so far in this regard? A provision of As. 62.00 crores for development of the West Coast Canal in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Kerala exists in the 8th Five Year Plan. THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE However, against the provision of 373 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 374 Rs. 3.00 crores, an amount of Rs. 65.00 Kolar Gold Fields lakhs was spent for this purpose during 1993-94. A provision of Rs. 1.00 crore 147. SHRI SANDI PAN BHAGWAN has been made during 1994-95. THORAT: Will the Minister of MINES be Champakara and Udyogmandal Canals pleased to state: have already been dredged to the required depth, to facilitate smooth inland water (a) whether attention of the transport movement. Government has been drawn to the news report appearing in the Economic; Times Setting up of Food Processing dated June 8, 1994 under the caption Units "Foreign Majors in race for Gold Mining in Kolar"; 146. DR. VASANT NIWRUTTI PAWAR: (b) if so, the details of the proposals SHRI MOHAMMAD All received from foreign companies; ASHRAF FATMI: SHRI LALl BABU RAI: (c) the reaction of the Government thereto;

Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased (d) the action taken/proposed to be to state: taken to aliow participation by foreign firms in gold mining;

(a) whether any proposals are lying (e) the advantage of allowing foreign pending with the centre for selting up of firms to enter Gold Mining in the ccuntry; new food processing units in the country and as on 30.6.1994; and

(f) details of future plans for boosting (b) if so, details thereof? Gold Mining operations in the country?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING THE MINISTRY OF MINES (SHRI INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): BALRAM SINGH YADAV): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) and (b). Almost all Food Processing Industries have been de-licensed and, (b) and (c). Some foreign companies therefore, do not require Industrial had shown interest in collaborating with Licence. However, those units engaged Bharat Gold Mines Ltd. (BGML), Govt. in the brewing and distillation of alcoholic of India Undertaking engaged in gold beverages and manufacture of those mining. The company has recently invited items which are reserved for small scale offers for collaboration in the field of sector are required to take licence. As exploration and explOitation of gold and per available information 28 applications treatment of mill tailings by 1.8.94. for manufacture of beer and 5 applications for manufacture of potable alcohoVlMFL (d) to (f). With opening up of gold were pending with this Ministry as on for exploitation by private sector, 30.6.1994. participation by the private parties in gold 375 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 376 exploration has become possible and is far and the number of such post offices expected to bring in additional resources from where the telephone connections and upto date technology in this sector. have been withdrawn and installed in different Panchayat Bhawans; [Translation] (b) the number of the Panchayats LPG Distributors in Rolling in the State not provided with telephone Marketing Scheme facility so far; and

148. SHRI RAMASHRAY (c) the number of Panchayats PRASAD SINGH: provided with telephone facility and the SHRI TEJ NARAYAN amount spent for this purpose during SINGH: 1993-94?

Will the Minister of PETROLEUM THE MINISTER OF STATE OF AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS state: (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) The information is being collected and will be laid on the (a) whether the Government table of the House. propose to appoint LPG distributors in the rolling marketing scheme; (b) The number of Panchayat Village without telephone facility as on 30.6.1994 (b) if so, the details in this regard; is 5216. and

(c) if not, the reaction therefor? (c) The number of Panchayat Villages provided with telephone facility during the year 1993-94 is 6157 and the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF amount spent is about Rs. Crores. THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND n NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) to (c). LPG Marketing [English] Plan 1992-94 containing proposals to set up 623 LPG distributorships has already Passport Office in Kerala been approved by the Government and is under execution by the Industry. 150. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMCHANDRAN: Will the Minister of Shifting of Telephones in Panchayat EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be pleased to state: Bhawan in M.P.

149. SHRI SURAJ BHANU (a) the number of passports issued SOLANKI: Will the Minister of by Kozhikode, Cochin and Trivandrum COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: Passport Offices during 1993-94;

(a) the number of the post offices (b) the number of applications In Madhya Pradesh where telephone pending at these offices as on 30th June, connections have not been provided 80 1994; and 377 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 378

(c) the arrangements being made (c) The steps taken to expedite the at these offices to expedite the clearance issue of passports at these offices include, of passport applications? inter-alia, augmentation of staff strength, computerisation of these offices, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE productivity linked incentive scheme, MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS inspection of these offices and the (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) and. (b). The implementation of inspection reports. information is given in the Statement attached.

STATEMENT

The number of passports issued by Passport Office in Kerala during 1993-94 (1.4.93 to 31.3.94) and the number of applications pending as on 30.6.94

SI. Office Number of Total Pending over No. ppts issued pendency a month as as on 30.6.94 on 30.6.94

1. Cochin 129260 4530 2835

2. Kozhikode 330722 5225 1782

3. Trivandrum 179002 8490 980

638984 18245 5597

{Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF MINES Indian Bureau of Mines (SHRI BALRAM SINGH YADAV): (a) No, Sir. 151. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Will the Minister of MINES be pleased to state: (b) Does not arise.

(c) and (d). The proposal of Indian (a) whether any Regional Office of Bureau of Mines to open a Regional Indian Bureau of Mines is functioning in Office at Ahmedabad has not materialised Gujarat; so far due to financial constraints.

(b) if so, the details thereof; [Eng/ish]

(c) if not, whether the Govemment By Passes In Andhra Pradesh proposes fo open a Regional office in the State; and 152. SHRI DATTATRAYA BANDARU: Will the Minister of SURFACE (d) if not, the reasons therefor? TRANSPORT be pleased to state: 379 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 380 (a) whether the Govemment of Private Participation Multl-crore Andhra Pradesh has submitted proposals Road Projects to seek financial assistance from the Union Govemment for the construction 153. SHRI R. SURENDER REDDY: of by passes during 1993-94; Will the Minister ·of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state:

(b) if so, the details thereof; and (a) whether the Govemment have recently thrown open multi-crore. worth (c) the time by which the Union road projects to the private sector on Govemment are likely to allot the required 'Build, Operate and Transfer' (BOT) basis; funds? (b) if so, the details thereof;

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (c) whether a number of such THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE projects have been identified; TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) and (b). The Central Govemment is (d) if so, the details thereof; and primarily responsible for development and maintenance of National Highways (e) the details of the private in the country. Presumably the Hon'ble companies including the multinational and Member is referring to bypasses on NRls who have shown interest in this National Highways in Andhra Pradesh. regard? A proposal for construction of 17.88 kilometre long bypass around Eluru Town had been received during 1993-94 from THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Govemment of Andhra Pradesh as part THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE of the improvement of National Highway TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): from Vijayawada to Eluru. This project (a) 10 (d). Yes, Sir. A Statement indicating is proposed to be executed with the loan the details of the projects identified and assistance from Asian Development thrown open for Private Sector Bank. Participation is attached.

(e) The domestic/overseas (c) As the project is at presanction Companies from U.K., Malaysia, Canada, stage, it is too early to indicate the time Australia etc. have been envIncing interest by which the required funds are likely to In taking up highway projects on Builds, be aJIotted. Operate and Transfer basis. 381 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 382

STATEMENT

Name of Project State Approximate Approximate Cost Length in Km. in Rs. million

A. BYPASSES

1. Moradabad Uttar Pradesh 20 600

2. Combatore Tamil Nadu 27 400

3. Akola Maharashtra 14 300

4. Amravati Maharashtra 18 300

5. Hubli-Dharwad Kamataka 30 400

6. Udaipur Rajasthan 17 250

7. Nellore Andhra Pradesh 18 250

6. Shillong Meghalaya 27 650

B. BRIDGE

1. Bridges on Kullu bypass Himachal Pradesh 202

2. Bridges across Talpona & Galgibagh Goa 200

3. Varapuza bridge across Periyar Kerala 260

4. Sheonath bridge on Durg bypass Madhya Pradesh (Including Durg bypass) 240

5. Second Vivekananda bridge West Bengal 2200 383 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 384

Name of Project State Approximate Approximate Cost Length in Km. in Rs. million

6. Jiabhareli bridge Assam 700

7. Nizamuddin bridge Delhi 430

8. Sharavathi bridge Kamataka 300

9. Second Narmada bridge at Zadeshwar Gujarat 450

c. EXPRESS WAYS

1. Delhi-Kamal- Delhi and 200 10,000 Ambala Haryana

2. Delhi-Ghaziabad Delhi & U.P. 414 25,000 -Kanpur

3 Kanpur- Uttar Pradesh 310 20,000 Varanasi

4. Bombay-Sural- Maharashtra & 375 45,000 Vadodara Gujarat

5. Bombay-Pune Maharashtra 150 9,000

6. Faridabad- Haryana & 45 3,000 Noida-Ghaziabad U.P.

7. Bombay-Nasik Maharashtra 145 8,700

8. Bangalore- Kamataka 140 9,000 Mysore

9. Ghazlabad- Uttar Pradesh 49 3,000 Meerut 385 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 386

Telephone to Villages (c) if so, the details thereof, Statewise?

154. SHRI S.B. SIDNAL: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS pleased to state: (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) The number of villages in the country, having telephone facility as on April, 01, 1994 is 1,42,552. (a) the number of villages in the Statewise details are given in the enclosed country having telephone facility, Statement. Statewise;

(b) and (c). Yes, Sir. The Target (b) whether the Government for the year 1994-95 is to extend this propose to extend this facility to more facility to 1,05,883 additional villages. villages during 1994-95; and Statewise details are given in the enclosed Statement.

STATEMENT

VILLAGE PUBLIC TELEPHONES

Status as on April 01, 1994

SI. Circle/State Total No. of VPTs as on Target for No. inhabited 1.4.94 1994-95 villages

1. Andhra Pradesh 29341 19266 4250

2. Assam 20459 4405 4000

3. Bihar 79208 8202 18000

4. Gujarat including 18735 9226 4435 Dadra Nagar, Daman & Diu.

5. Haryana 7190 4816 1130

6. Himachal Pradesh 16997 2316 1000

7. Jammu & Kashmir 6447 881 700

8. Kamataka 27024 5108 7000 387 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 388

SI. Circle/State Total No. of VPTs as on Target for No. inhabited 1.4.94 1994-95 villages

9. Kerala including 1530 1512 18 Lakshadweep Island

10. Madhya Pradesh 71386 18117 13000

11. Maharashtra 36187 14309 6500 including Goa

12. North-East 15192 1574 1000 Including Arunachal Pradesh, Manipur, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland & Tripura.

13. Orissa 51057 5258 10000

14. Punjab 13252 7558 1550

15. Rajasthan 37889 6141 5000

16. Tamil Nadu 15826 11777 2000 including Pondicherry

17. Uttar Pradesh 112568 18564 16300

18. West Bengal 43306 3528 10000 including Andaman Nicobar & Sikkim

Total 603594 142552 105883

[Translation J (a) whether the construction work of the first stage of Nathpa-Jakhari Power Project is going on as per schedule; NatptunJakhari Power Project

(b) whether the construction cost of 155. DR. SAKSHIJI: Will the the project has escalated manifold from Minister of POWER be pleased to state: its original cost; 389 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 390

(c) if so, the extent thereof; The remaining outstanding issues are under examination and review by both (d) whether the Government have Governments. Further negotiations with enquired into the reasons for such a view to finalizing the Agreement are escalation; and expected.

(e) if so, the details thereof? The Joint Indo-US Statement issued during PM's visit to the USA in May, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1994, states that the two leaders noted MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. that the United States and India have RANGAYVA NAIDU): (a) The construction begun negotiations on a new Extradition of civil works of Nathpa Jhakari hydro- Treaty which they hope to complete in electric power project commenced a few the near future. months ago. The contract for supply, erection and commissioning of the electro- Oil Exploration mechanical equipment has been awarded recently. It is expected that duration of 157. SHRI RAJESH KUMAR: the construction will be about five years. SHRIMATI SHEELA GAUTAM: (b) and (c). The estimated cost of SHRI RAMESHWAR the project has undergone an upward PATIDAR: revision from Rs. 1678.02 crores to Rs. 4337.95 crores at March, 1993 price Wilt the Minister of PETROLEUM level. AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (d) and (e). The revised approved project cost is based on March 1993 (a) whether he had recently visited price level whereas the earlier estimates Singapore; were based on September, 1988 price level. (b) if so, whether he had made any offer to the foreign investors in the field Extradition Treaty with us of oil exploration and development under the Government's liberal economic policy; 156. SHRI RAJESH KUMAR: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be (c) whether any discussion has pleased to state the progress made in been held with the Government of regard to signing of extradition treaty with Singapore in the field of oil exploration; the US during the visit of Prime Minister and to that country? (d) if so, the details of the proposals THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE likely to be finalised and implemented? MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI SALMAN KHURSHEED): India and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF US held one round of discussions on a THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND new bilateral Extradition Treaty in NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR September, 1993. A large measure of SHARMA): (a) to (d). A delegation led agreement has been reached on the text. by the Minister of State for Petroleum 391 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 392

and Natural Gas visited Singapore in the (a) whether some gangs engaged last week of March, 1994, to acquaint oil in providing STD and ISO telephone calls companies with the opportunities for at cheap rates in various parts of the investment in the oil and gas sector in country, particularly in Delhi, are active India. Discussions were also held with causing losses of crores of rupees to the the Economic Development Board of Government; Singapore regarding prospects of prominent companies from Singapore participating in the petroleum sector in (b) whether such gangs have been India. nabbed in various parts of the country in which the employees of telephone department are also found to be involved; Sokaro Steel Plant

158. SHRI LALIT ORAON: Will the (c) if so, the details thereof; and Minister of STEEL be pleased to state: (d) the effective steps being taken (a) whether the modernisation work by the Government to check such misuse of Bokaro Steel Plant has been given to of STD/ISD facility? c ~0reign firm at uncompetitive rates;

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) if so, whether an Indian company THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS had offered to carry out the modernisation (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. at a much lower cost; and

(c) if so, the reaction of the (c) Cases of diversion of telephones Government thereto? for STD/ISD purposes have come to notice from places like Delhi, Jaipur, Madras, Agra, Bangalore, Bombay, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Calcutta etc. Assistance of CBI/Police THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI has been taken to investigate such cases SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) and (b). and some private persons and No, Sir. Bids were invited and received departmental officials involve have been on a global basis from pre-qualified apprehended. Suitable action has already bidders including Indian parties. Orders been initiated against the persons involved have been placed for these global in such cases. packages of Bokaro Steel Plant Modernisation on the lowest, technically acceptable, tenderers which include an (d) Surprise visits have been Indian Company. strengthened at all sensitive points in the telecorn network. Four special cells of (c) Does not arise. CSI, each under the charge of a DSP, has been sanctioned recently. These Cells will function at the four metropolitan Misuse of STDIISD Calls cities and cO-Qrdinate with the departmental officers in effectively dealing 159. SHRt CHHEDI PASWAN: Will with cases of diversion of telephones. the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be The Indian Telegraph Act, 1885, is being pleased to state: 393 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 394

amended to provide for df;lterrent penalties April, 1994 to June, 1994 were as for these who indulge in diversion or take follows:- advantage of diversion or abot in the diversion of telephones. Subscribers of Electronic ~xchanges have been advised (All figures in net MU) to use STD Dynamic lock facility to April, 91 - June, 91 prevent misuse. Requirement 8100

[English] Availability 7801

Requirement of Power in Gujarat Shortage 309

160. SHRI SHANKERSINH % shortage 3.8 VAGHELA: Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: (c) Proposals for setting up eight Power projects have been received in the (a) whether various parts of Gujarat Central Electricity Authority for accord of are facing power shortage at present; techno-economic clearance. Of these, the Gandhar Scheme (864.7 MW) has been cleared by Central Electricity (b) the total requirement of power Authority. in Gujarat and the quantum of annual power generation in that State; (d) Two hydro-electric projects viz. Sardar Sarover (6x200+5x50MW) at an (c) the number of new power estimated cost of Rs. 1950.94 crores and generation projects in the state under Kadana PSS Extension (2x60 MW) at an consideration of the Government and the estimated cost of Rs. 120.51 crores are number of projects, which have been presently under construction. cleared during 1993-94; (e) At Bamanbore and Dhank two (d) the names of places in the wind power generation projects of capacity State earmarked for hydro-electricity of 2 MW each are under erection. generation schemes and their estimated cost and profit and loss; and India-China Joint Working Group

161. SHRI V SREENIVASA (e) the names of the places where PRASAD: projects for generation of wind power will SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: be set up a10ngwith quantum of electricity SHRI SANAT KUMAR likely to be generated thereby? MANDAL: SHRI R. SURENDER • THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE REDDY: MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. SHRI ANNA JOSHI: RANGAVYA NAIDU): (a) and (b). The SHRI TARA SINGH: requirement of power. its availabilty and SHRI DHARMANNA MON- the extent of shortage in Gujarat during DAVY A SADUL: 395 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 396

SHRI ATAL BIHARI the two sides have different views as to VAJPAYEE: its alignment and for the redeployment PROF. RASA SINGH of military forces along the border. No RAWAT: separate agreement with China on demarcation of the LAC or troop Will the Minister of EXTERNAL reductions was reached dl..,ing this AFFAIRS be pleased to state: session of the JWG.

(a) whether the meeting of India- 3. During the discussions the two China Joint Working Group on border sides noted with satisfaction that the issue was held at Beijing recently; situation along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) was peaceful and that confidence (b) if so, the broad details of the building measures already in place were discussions held and the outcome thereof; working well. The two sides exchanged and views on further confidence building measures and agreed in principle that additional pOints for meetings between (c) whether any agreement has the border personnel of the two countries been reached in regard to demarcation will be established. Specific details of Une of Actual Control and the troop regarding these additional points will be reduction at the border; worked out in the India-China Expert Group. The two sides also took note of (d) if so, the salient features thereof; the considerable progress made at the and first two sessions of the Expert Group. They noted that the Expert Group had (e) the follow up steps taken on the reached agreement on its work outcome? regulations. The leaders of the two delegations directed the Expert Group to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE continue to adopt a positive and MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS constructive approach in its future work. (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) to (e). The 7th meeting of the India-China Joint Working 4. The two sides also took this Group (JWG) on the Boundary Question opportunity to exchange views on all was held in Beijing on July 6-7, 1994. aspects of India-China relations. Both sides expressed happiness at the steady 2. During the meeting the two sides and perceptible improvement in bilateral continued discussions aimed at arriving . ties and reiterated their commitment to at a fair, reasonable and mutually maintain this positive trend in their acceptable settlement of the India-China relationship. Views were also exchanged boundary question. Both sides held on regional and global issues of mutual discussions on the ifTIPlementation of the interest. There was convergence of Agreement on the Maintenance of Peace positions on several International topics. and Tranquility aJong the Una of Actual Control in the India-China Border Areas, 5. The next meeting of the Joint which was signed during Prime Minister'S Working Group will be held In New Deihl visit to China on September 7. 1993. The at a mutually convenient date In 1995, Agreement provides for clarification of preceded by a meeting of Its Expert Ihe Une of Actual Control (LAC). where Group in ear1y 1995. 397 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 398

[Translation] (c) the target fixed to increase the number of such villages during the year Telecom Facility in Villages 1994-95?

162. SHRI SATYA DEO SINGH: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF SHRI BRIJBHUSHAN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS SHARAN SINGH: (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) As on April 1-, 1994, the total number of such villages Will the Minister of is 142552. COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (b) Statewise details are given in (a) the total number of villages Statement, which gives a comparative having telecommunication facility in the study of the telecommunication facility country at present; provided in the States.

(b) the names of the States having _(c) The target fixed for 1994-95 to more villages equipped with increase the number of such villages is telecommunication facility than other 1,05,883. State wise details are given in States in the country; and the Statement attached.

STATEMENT

Village Public Telephones/Telecom facility Status as on April 1st, 1994

SI. Circle/State Total No. of Villages Target No. inhabited Public Telephone for villages as on 01.04.94 1994-95

1. Andhra Pradesh 29341 19260 4250

2. Assam 20459 4405 4000

3. Bihar 79208 8202 18000

4. Gujarat including 18735 9226 4435 Dadra Nagar, Daman & Diu

5. Haryana 7190 4816 1130

6. Himachal Pradesh 16997 2316 1000

7. Jammu & Kashmir 6447 881 700

8. Kamataka 27024 5108 7000 399 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 400

SI. Circle/State Total No. of Villages Target No. inhabited Public Telephone for villages as on 01.04.94 1994-95

9. Kerala including 1530 1512 18 Lakshadweep Island

10. Madhya Pradesh 71386 18117 13000

11 . Maharashtra including 36187 14309 6500 Goa

12. North-East including 15192 1574 1000 Arunachal Pradesh, Manipur, Meghaiaya, Mizoram, Nagaland & Tripura

13. Orissa 51057 5258 10000

14. Punjab 13252 7558 1550

15. Rajasthan 37889 6141 5000

16. Tamil Nadu 15826 11777 2000

17. Uttar Pradesh 112568 18564 16300

18. West Bengal including 4330& 3528 10000 Andaman. Nicobar & Sikkim

Total 603594 142552 105883

{English] in bulk quantity for sending replies to TV programmes like Quiz, creating scarcity Post Cards of the Post Cards for general public; and

163. SHRI JAGAT VIR SINGH (b) if so, the action taken or ORONA: Will the Minister of proposed to be taken to stop such COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: misuse of post cards?

(a) whether the Government are THE MINISTER OF STATE OF aware that Post Cards are being misused THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 401 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 402 (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). It is a (a) whether his Ministry has fact that postcards in large numbers are received a good response to the new being used for sending replies to TV power policy from both private and public programmes etc. sectors;

The Department of Posts is, (b) the number of power projects therefore, considering a proposal tv to be undertaken during 1994-95 and the introduce a separate category of postcard quantity of power generation likely to be which will be used for prize-winning achieved and the power production competitions organised through TV, Radio, capacity to be added as a result thereof; Newspapers etc.

Indo-Iranian Pipeline Project (c) whether these projects will be able to overcome the power shortage at present prevailing in many States; and 164. SHRI A. ASOKARAJ: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (d) if so, the details thereot?

(a) the steps taken to implement THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Indo-Iranian pipeline project to supply MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. natural gas to India; and RANGAYVA NAiDU): (a) Yes Sir.

(b) The places in India which would (b) 42 on going power projects in receive supply of natural gas under this Central and State Sectors with a capacity scheme? of 4598.75 MW are programmed for commissioning during 1994-95. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR (c) and (d). These projects will help SHARMA): (a) Expert Groups from India in reducing the power shortage to some and Iran are jointly wor1

Will the Minister of STEEL be Power Policy pleased to state: 165. SHRI SULTAN SALAHUD- DIN OWAISI: (a) whether there has been delay SHRI BOLLA BULLI in the modemisation of liSCO; RAMAIAH: (b) if so, the details thereof and the Will the Minister of POWER be escalation in the cost of modemisation please to state: as a result thereof; 403 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 404

(c) whether a Central Government tc) and (d). Government have not undertaking has offered to mode mise received any such proposal from any liSCO at a lower cost than that offered Central Government Undertaking. by private concerns; and However, the Chairman-cum-Managing Director, Hindustan Steel works Construction Limited (HSCL) has, purely (d) if so, the details thereof and the in his personal capacity, written to a reaction of the Government thereto? Central Trade Union leader suggesting that it may be possible to increase THE MINISTER OF STATE OF liSCO's production of hot metal to 1 .45 THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI million tonnes per annum with an SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): (a) and (b). investment of Rs. 2130 crores. It has It has not been possible for Government also been clarified that this is only a to take an investment deciSion for broad concept which is not based on any modernisation of Indian Iron and Steel detailed feasibility study. Company Limited (liSCO) due to constraint of resources in Government (TranslationJ and Steel Authority of India Limited (of which liSCO is a subsidiary). Trans-Border Bus Service with Nepal

Government, thereTOre, decided to 167. SHRI DAnA MEGHE: Will allow private sector participation in the the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be equity and management of liSCO for the please to state: purpose of ensuring expeditious modernisation of its Burnpur Steel Works. Government proposed to introduce a Bill (a) whether the Government for empowering Government to allow propose to start trans-border bus service SAIL to transfer its share holdings in between Nepal and India; and liSCO to private persons for this purpose. The Bill was under consideration of the (b) if so, the details thereof and the Department Related Parliamentary time by which this is likely to be Standing Committee on Industry which implemented? presented its report to Pariiarnent in April, 1994 the Report are being followed THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE up. MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) No Sir.

Meanwhile, liSCO has become a sick industrial company in terms of the (b) Does not arise. Sick Industrial Companies (Special Provisions) Act, 1985, and the Board of Termlssion to Import Petroleum Directors of the company have made a Products and LPG reference to the Board for Industrial and Financial Reconstruction (BIFR) as 168. SHRI BHAGWAN SHANKAR required under section 15 of the Act for RAWAT: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM determination of measures to be adopted AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to with respect to the company. state: 405 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 406

(a) the number of indigenous and Under the Parallel Marketing foreign multinational companies to which System, Kerosene, LPG, LSHSfLSWR Government have given permission for have been imported by the Private import of petroleum products and LPG Agencies. Likewise, other Petroleum in private sector; products like CBFS, RPC/CPC, Hexane and BenzenelToluene are also being imported. Govemment have also approved (b) the future plans for the sale of the formation of Joint Ventures by the petroleum products and LPG by these companies and the quantum thereof, Public Sector Companies with Foreign State-wise; Companies as detailed below for manufacture and marketing of lubricants:~

(c) the time by which their sale is 1. Bharat Petroleum Corporation likely to be commenced on the basis of Limited with Shell. permission accorded to them; 2. IBP with Caltex. (d) whether the Government have made any arrangements to check the 3. Indian Oil Corporation Limited functioning and management of these with Mobil. companies; and 4. Indian Oil Corporation Limited with Balmer Lawrie & Co. (e) if so, the details in this regard? Limited and Nyco.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 5. Balmer Lawrie & Co. Limited THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND with Fuchs. NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) to (e). Under the Parallel {English] Marketing System, the Government had allowed the private agencies to import National Highways in Andhra and market Kerosene, LPG and LSHS Pradesh by using/setting up their own import facilities and distribution network. They 169. PROF. UMMAREDDY do not need any permission from the VENKATESWARLU: Will the Minister of Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas. SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to However, they are required to obtain state: necessary approvals under tbe relevant Acts and Rules from the CentraVState/ (a) the details of oo-going road- Local authorities regarding safety, pollution widening scheme on the National control, etc. as applicable. Highways in Andhra Pradesh scheduled for completion in 1994-95; Govt. have decanalised the import of follOwing items: 1. LPG 2. SKO (b) the present stages of the various 3. NAPHTHA 4. LUBRICANTS 5. LSHSI such schemes, especially on N.H. No.5; LSWR 6. HEXANE 7. BENZENE! TOLUENE 8. RPCfCPC 9. CBFS 10. (c) whether some such schemes PARAFFIN WAX. have been delayed; and 407 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 408

(d) if so, the reasons therefor? [Translation]

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Iron and Steel, Ranchi THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): 171. SHRI UPENDRA NATH (a) and (b). Two schemes on National VERMA: Will the Minister of STEEL be Highway 7 and one on National Highway pleased to state the progress achieved 43 for widening are scheduled for by the Research and Deve!opment Centre completion during 1994-35. These are in for Iron & Steel (RDCIS), Ranchi, during advanced stage of progress. the last three years;

(c) and (d). There has been some THE MINISTER OF STATE OF delay on two schemes on National THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI Highway 7 due to slow progress by the SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): Steel Authority contractors. of India Limited has taken up number of steps to improve its research and Indo-Norwegian Agreement development programmes. Research and Development Centre selects and pursues 170. SHRI D. VANKATESWARA such projects which would lead to RAO: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM maximum benefits i:1 terms of AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to improvement in productivity, quality and state: yield, reduction in rejection, reduction in input cost as well as reduction in specific (a) whether a high level technical consumption of energy and materials and delegation of oil experts from Norway development of new products. To meet have visited India to explore the possible such requirements, projects taken up by avenues of Indo-Norwegian co-operation Research and Development Centre have in the field of oil and gas sector; been classified in the following categories>

(b) if so, whether any agreement has been reached with Norway in this Plant Performance Improve- regard; ment (PPI) which accounts for the bulk of Research and Development efforts and are (c) if ::'..:, the details of the directed towards improvement agreement; and in productivity, quality, yield and energy conservation and (d) to what extent Norway is going development of new products to help India in exploring the oil and gas in steel plants of SAIL. in the country;

Basic Research (BSR) and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Major Technology Develop- THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND ment (MTD) for developing new NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR steel technologies. SHARMA): (a) No sir.

Investigation and Consuhancy (b) to (d). Do not arise. Assignment (ICA). 409 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 410

The salient features of the progress and coke, optimum slag regime, made by Research and Development used of higher RAFT, optimising Centre for Iron & Steel (RDCIS), Ranchi, the concast bloom size and during the last three years are given the roll pass design, use of below:- LMC in soaking pit walls etc. have resulted in better quality, 1991-92 increase in productivity and improvement in yield.

- Upgradation of charging Decrease in specific fuel system of sinter mix, consumption by modification of introduction of improved roll insulation of skids in reheating pass lubrication system in fumaces, decrease in ladle CRM, optimisation of tuyere heating time, resulted in parameters, development of reduction of specific energy indigenous cold rolling oil consumption in Steel Plants. (06RO-m2) for TMC and application of low moisture castable for tundish lining Development of new products resulting in improvement in suited for railways, GAIL, Sugar productivity and yields. Industry etc. such as hot rolled plates, ERW pipes & corrosion resistant steel. Reduction in energy consumption by introducing variable voltage frequency Development of import substi- blowers, computer control tution items like cold rolling oil system and double layer skid for increasing rolling rate, ME10 insulation system besides grade plates used for making cartridge cases, infrared improved ladle preheating photocell looper controllers for system. skelp mill, non-contact type maintenance free sensor for Development of market oriented wire rod mill and 92% Si02 products. based exothermic hot repai. mass for coke ovens. Development of technology for thin strip casting. 1993-94

1992-93 Development of SAILMA 450 HI Grade Steel at Shilai Steel Plant substituting imports Improved sinter making, earthmovers, impellers and decrease in rejections of excavators. blooms by installation of automatic cutting system. Implementation of condition Optimisation of Slab Length based Monitoring System, Cutting for Plate Mill of SSP to improved screening of sinter suit market requirement. 411 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 412

System Development of Heat of COMMUNICATIONS be please to Treatment and Manufacturing state: Process of Locomotive Wheels at Durgapur Steel Plant. (a) whether Department of Telecommunications (DOT) owes large Development of Technology for sums to Public Sector Undertakings of Production of High Strength the Ministry of Defence; Crane Wheels at Alloy Steel Plant, Durgapur. (b) the details of amount owed- PSU-wise and year wise; Development of Cold Rolled CORTEN steel through ASP- BSL route for meeting (c) the reasons for non-clearance requirement of the Railways. of the dues;

World Bank Aid to Power Grid (d) whether DOT pays interest to Defence PSUs for the amount owed; 172. PROF. SAVITHRI LAKSHMANAN: Will the Minister of POWER be please to state: (e) if so, at what rate; and

(a) whether Power Grid has (f) if not, the reasons therefor? implemented its important projects through Wond Bank's assistance during 1993; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (b) if so, whether the unified load (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) to (f). The despatch and communication project for information is being collected and will be Southem Region are also included in the laid on the table of the House. said scheme; and

(c) if so, the funds allocation for Pakistan's Involvement in Terrorism Southem Region Projects? in Kashmir

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 175. SHRI BAPU HARI MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. CHAURE: RANGAVYA NAIDU): (a) and (b). Yes SHRI PARAS RAM Sir. BHARDWAJ: SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA (c) Estimated cost of the project is GAVIT: As. 621.57 crores. Will the Minister of EXTERNAL Due. Against PSU. of Defence AFFAIRS be please to state:

173. MAJ. GEN. (RETD.) BHUWAN (a) whether the Government have CHANDRA KHANDURI: Will the Minister shown to US and other countries the 413 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 414 evidence of Pakistan's involvement in Visa lo Pak Nationals terrorism in Kashmir; 176. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: (b) whether the Government have Will the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS also showed evidence of training of be please to state: terrorist elements in Afghanistan for operation in Kashmir; and (a) the number of applications received by the High Commission of India, Islamabad, and Consulate General (c) if so, the details thereof and of India, from Pakistani nationals their response thereto? for visas to visit India during 1991, 1992 and 1993, year-wise.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) the number of Pakistani nationals MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS who where granted visas to visit India, (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) to (c). year-wise; Government have apprised the international community of Pakistan's (c) the number of Pakistani nationals support to subversion and terrorism who actually visited India, year wise; and directed against India, including training imparted to militants in camps located in (d) the number of Indian nationals Pakistan and Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir who visited Pakistan, according to our as well as of training facilities arranged emigration records, year-wise, during by Pakistan in locations within these years? Afghanistan. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS There is general appreciation in the (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) The number of international community of Pakistan'S role visa application received from Pakistan in aiding, abetting and supporting terrorism nationals to visit India, year-wise; in J&K.

1991 1992 1993

(i) High Commission of 40480 34886 36200 India, Islamabad (ii) Consulate General of 160933 152094 16831 India, Karachi (b) The number of 194182 178431 45927 Pakistani nationals granted visas to visit India; (c) The number of Pak 196878 166728 52898 nationals who visited India. (d) The number of 72994 67752 65723 Indian nationals who visited Pakistan: 415 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 416

Supply of Natural Gas to (a) the number of applications for Maharashtra by Oman allotment of I.S.D.lS.T.D.IP.C.O. Booths, received in Gujarat during the 1992-93 177. SHRI MOHAN RAWALE: Will and 1993-94, district-wise; the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) the number of the applications disposed of out of them during the said (a) whether the Maharashtra period and number of the booths allotted Government has urged the Union so far; Government to supply natural gas proposed to be imported from Oman/Iran (c) the time by which the remaining to Maharashtra; applications would be disposed of; and

(b) whether the Stal! Government has offered free of cost the land required (d) the total number of telephones and other facilities needed for locating given to the various panchayats so far the shore terminals for the marine pipeline; in the State, District-wise?

(c) if so, the details thereof; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (d) the reaction of Government (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) to (d). The thereto? required information is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR (English] SHARMA): (a) Yes, Sir. Privatisation of Port Activities (b) and (c). The Govemment of Maharashtra have proposed the setting up of a new gas terminal at Usar. 179. SHRI JAGMEET SINGH BRAR: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (d) The landfall pOint of the submari"e pipeline will be decided on techno-economic considerations. (a) whether the Government have identified the Port activities in the 11 [Translation] major Ports in the country that are proposed to be prlvatised; and

STDIPCO in Gujarat (b) if so, the details thereof? H8. SHRI RATILAL VARMA: SHRI MAHESH KANODIA: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE Will the Minister of TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (a) Yes, Sir. 417 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 418

(b) The following activities have (d) if so, whether the Govemment been broadly identified for obtaining have taken any decision in this regard private participation in 11 major Ports: so far;

(i) Setting up of Container (e) if so, the details thereof; and Terminals.

(f) if not, the reasons therefor? (ii) Setting up of Warehousing and Storage facilities. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (iii) Operation and maintenance of THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND various cargo handling NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR terminals. SHARMA): (a) As on 30.6.1994, there were 22 LPG distributorships functioning in Gorakhpur Division of Eastem Uttar (iv) Provision of pilotage and Pradesh. cranage services.

(v) Dredging. (b) The existing average demand of LPG in Gorakhpur Division is about (vi) Maintenance of various port 80,000 cylinders pH month. This is being met in full by the Industry. craft and other equipment.

(vii) Leasing of Equipment. (c) to (f). Requests are received from time to time for opening of more {Translation] LPG distributorships in different parts of the country including the Gorakhpur Division of Uttar Pradesh. These are sent LPG Agencies in Gorakhpur, U.P. to the Oil Industry for survey. Subject to economic viability and product availability, 180. SHRI PANKAJ CHOWDHARY: locations having a population of 20,000 Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND and above are included in the marketing NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: plan for opening of LPG distributorships in a phased manner. Accordingly, eight (a) the number of LPG agencies in LPG distributorships have already been Gorakhpur Division of Eastem Uttar advertised in Gorakhpur DiviSion for Pradesh; selection of distributors through the Oil Selection Board for Uttar Pradesh. (b) the present demand and supply position of the LPG in the Gorakhpur {English] Division;

STDIPCO Committees (c) whether the Government have received applications for opening of more LPG agencies in Maharajganj, 181. SHRI S.M. LALJAN BASHA: Sidharthnagar, Deoria, Basti and Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS Gorakhpur Districts; be pleased to state: 419 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 420

(a) whether STD/PCO Committees (e) if not, the names of the States were established all over the country in to whom this gas is proposed to be January, 1994 for alloting STD/PCO provided? Telephone connections to the unemployed youths; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (b) if so, the number of meetings NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR held by these Committees from January SHARMA): (a) and (b). The Oman Oil 1994 to June 1994; and Company (OOC) has completed the pre- feasibility study for the transport of 56.6 MMSCMD of gas to India. The terms and (c) the number of STD/PCO sanctioned district-wise particularly in conditions for importing gas from Oman are under discussion with the OOC. The Andhra Pradesh during that period? pre-feasibility study for the import of gas from Iran is yet to be taken up. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (c) to (e). The State-wise distribution (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) of the 320 of the imported gas w!U depend on the Secondary Switching Areas in the country, techno-economic feasibility of non-official members for 121 SSA STD! transportation and utilisation of gas. PCO Allotment Committees have since been nominated. Schemes of Oi' Sector for Madhya Pradesh (b) and (ci. The required information is being collected and will be laid on the 183. SHRI SURAJBHANU Table of the House. SOlANKI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be [Translation) pleased to state:

Import of Natural Gas (a) the details of the projects! schemes pertaining to oil sector from. 182. SHRI PREM CHAND RAM: Madhya Pradesh which are under Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND consideration of the Government; NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) the reasons for delay in (a) whether the Government have according approval to these projects; and decided to import natural gas; (c) the time by which these projects! (b) if so, the quantum of gas likely schemes are likely to be approved? to be imported country-wise; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (c) whether a part of the imported NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR gas would be provided to Bihar; SHARMA): (a) to (c). The Government has granted the first stage· approval to (d) if so, the quantum of gas likely BPCL for preparing a detailed feasibility to be provided to that State; and report for setting up of a refinery at Bina 421 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 422

(M.P.) as a joint venture between BPCL (c) the total expenditure incurred & Oman Oil Company, OMAN. thereon?

{English] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Telephones to Panchayats in (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). As on Andhra Pradesh 30.6.1994, the number of Gram Panchayats provided with telephone 184. SHRI DATTATRAYA facility in Andhra Pradesh is 13705 out BANDARU: Will the Minister of of which 1440 Gram Panchayats were COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: provided with the facility during 1993-94. District-wise details are given in the (a) the number of Gram Panchayats enclosed Statement. provided with telephone facility in Andhra Pradesh so far, district-wise; (c) The total expenditure incurred (b) the number of Gram Panchayats so far is about 172 crores, out of which out of them provided with the said facility about 18 crores was incurred during the during 1993-94; and year 1993-94.

STATEMENT

Districtwise details of Gram Panchaysts in Andhra Pradesh provided with telephones

SI. Name of the SSA Total No. of Total No. of No. Panchayats with Gram Panchayats Telecom. faCility. provided with telephone facility during 93-94

1. Adilabad 215 10

2. Anantapur 723 63

3. Chittoor 736 61

4. Cuddapah 438 84

5. East Godavari Dist. 848 17

6. Guntur 908 48

7. Karimnagar 633 55 423 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 424

SI. Name of the SSA Total No. of Total No. of No. Panchayats with Gram Panchayats Telecom. facility. provided with telephone facility during 93-94

8. Khammam 509 41

9. Krishna 873 68

10. Kumool 738 13

11. Mahabubnagar 749 169

12. Madak 528 13

13. Malgunda 763 137

14. Nellore 652 125

15. Nazibabad 360 11

16. Prakasam 641 123

17. Ranga Reddy 475 41

18. Srikakulam 616 150

19. Visakkapatnam 590 102

20. Vizianagaram 446 73

21. Warangal 467 36

22. West Godavari Dist. 797 0

Total 13750 1440

T~hone Exchanges In Kanurtaka (a) the number of the telephone exchange in Kamataka proposed to be 185. SHRI S.B. SIDNAL: Will the converted into electronics exchanges Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be please during 1993-94; to slate: 425 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 426

(b) the number out of them already THE MINISTER OF STATE OF converted and the number of exchanges THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND yet to be converted, district-wise; and NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) During the period April- June, 1994, consumption/sale of LPG by (c) the time by which the remaining the Government oil companies in Tamil exchanges are likely to be converted with Nadu has been 59468 MTs. details thereof?

(b) Release of new connections is THE MINISTER OF STATE OF dependent inter-alia upon product THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS availability, slack available with the existing (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) to (c). No specific distributors, viability of the distributors targets were fixed for 1993-94 for and total enrolment plans, etc. Efforts are conversion of exchanges into electronic. however, constantly on to release LPG However 300 exchanges were converted connections to as many applicants and into electronic during 1993-94, in as ear1y as possible. Kamataka. Premium for Power Companies As on 01.04.1994, 243 non electrical exchanges existed in Kamataka, out of 187. SHRI SULTAN SALAHUDDIN which 106 have been converted into OWA!SI: Will the Minister of POWER be electronic, so far during 1994-95. The pleased to state: remaining exchanges will be converted progressively and as per the Policy of the (a) whether the Govemment have Department. assured powe; companies at 16% rate of retum on the premium raised in equity Districtwise information is oeing issues; collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. (b) if so, the details thereof and the points raised by private sector and foreign LPG Connections in companies in this matter; and Tamil Nadu (c) the action taken by the Govemment on suggestions made by 186. SHRI A. ASOKARAJ: Will the those companies? Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. (a) the demand and supply of LPG RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) to (c). It is in Tamil Nadu at present; and considered that Premium raised while issuing shares, and actually utilised for the construction of power projects should (b) the steps Govemment propose aiso be entitled to retum as for equity. to take to provide more LPG connections No formal Notification has, however, in the State? been issued in this regard. 427 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 428

[Translation] with telephones in Gujarat. The information with regard to the names of Wireless System in Gujarat the Panchayat villages is being collected and shall be placed on Table of the House. 188. SHRI N.J. RATHVA: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (d) As on 30.6.94, 429 Gram Panchayat Telephones were faulty due to technical faults either in the base (a) whether the Government are station unit or in the remote station unit. aware that battery based wireless system being operated in the village panchayats (e) Technical Teams from the stops functioning after a period of about manufacturers are being deputed to rectify one month; the defects. Some systems are being replaced. (b) if so, the details in this regard; Multinationals in Food Processing (c) the names of the village Industries panchayats in Gujarat where such telephone exchanges are functioning; 189. SHRI BHAGWAN SHANKAR RAWAT: Will the Minister of FOOD (d) the details of the technical PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased faults in such telephone exchanges to state: functioning in the State; and (a) whether for issuing licences to (e) the remedial measures oelng multinationals for setting up Food taken by the Government in this regard? Processing Industries, certain conditions for export of their products were laid THE MINISTER OF STATE OF down; and THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) and (b). Sir, (b) if so, the names of companies Most of the Gram Panchayat telephones that have breached these terms of using battery based wireless systems are agreement? functioning satisfactorily. However, some of the older wireless systems have THE MINISTER OF STATE OF become defective within a short period THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING of installation. As on 30.6.94, 429 Nos. INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): out of 3577 Nos. of Wireless based (a) While granting approvals for foreign Gram Panchayat telephones were faulty. investment which has been allowed in various Food Processing sector under (c) Telephone exchanges are not the new Industrial Policy of July '91, being planned for village panchayats. certain conditions such as foreign However, Government have policy to exchange neutrality, dividend balancing provide public telephone in Panchayat non-repatriation of dividend, and exports Villages in Gujarat. As on 30.6.94, 3577 etc. are laid down on a case to case Panchayat Villages had been provided basis. 429 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 430

(b) There are certain alleged (f) if so, the details thereof? violationlbreach of the condition of agreement by Mis. Pepsi Food Ltd., THE MINISTER OF STATE OF which is under investigation in the Office THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS of the Director General of Foreign Trade. (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) to (f). The information is grouped under Central [English] Govemment, State Government, Defence & Private categories only. This has been called for and the same will be placed Telephone Revenue Arrears on the Table of the House.

190. SHRI A. SURENDER REDDY: Investment in Telecom Sector Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: 191. SHRI D. VENKATESWARA RAO: Will the Minister of (a) the total telephone revenue COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: arrears due (as on 30.6.1994) from the Central Govt. Group, Central Public Sector (a) whether he had initiated Undertakings, State Govemments, State discussions with representatives of Public Sector Undertakings, Private organisations who had taken interest in Parties, etc., investing in the telecom sector;

(b) the break-up of the arrears (b) if so, the details of the main MinistrylDepartment-wise of the Central points discussed and the outcome thereof; Government, Central Public Sector and Undertakings-wise, State Govemment- wise and State Public Sector Undertakings-wise; (c) the follow up action taken! proposed to be taken thereon?

(c) the reasons for accumulating THE MINISTER OF STATE OF huge arrears in respect of Central and THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS State Governments and their (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes, Sir. undertakings;

(b) and (c). The view expressed by (d) the details of the measures various organisations being taken as part taken to recover the arrears from the of input for framing the guidelines for Government departments and the amount implementation of National Telecom of arrears recovered during the last three Policy. years, year-wise;

[Translation] (e) whether the Government envisage to impose any deterrent Preservation of Tomato penalities on the Central and State Government departments and their undertakings to ensure prompt payment 192. SHRI UPENDRA NATH of telephone bills, and VERMA: Will the Minister of FOOD 431 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 432 PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased (c) whether any negotiations have to state: been held with any foreign Countries! Agencies in this regard; (a) whether tomatoes are available in plenty in Chatra and Palamau districts; (d) if so, the details thereof; and

(b) if so, whether Govemment (e) the participation of the KeraJa propose to encourage entrepreneurs in Government and the Union Govemment setting up tomato processing units in the in the implementation of this project? State; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (c) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTlER): THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (a). No such proposal is at present under THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING the consideration of Ministry of Surface INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): Transport. (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) to (e). Do not arise. (b) and (c). The Ministry had formulated several development schemes for providing assistance to various Exploration of 011 organisations such as, State Govemment undertakings, Joint sector undertakings, 194. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDiN: cooperative sector, voluntary agencies, Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND private sector etc. for setting up/upgrading NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: of fruit and vegetable processing industries, setting up of training-cum-fruit (a) whether there have been several processing centres. No request has been rounds of offers to Indian and foreign received for assistance from these companies to bid for all blocks, for districts. exploration of petroleum off-shore and on-shore; [English}

(b) if so, the dates of the offer and Islands Around eachin the list of distinct blocks offered so far with their areas and locations; 193. SHRI MUllAPPAlLY RAMCHANDRAN: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to (c) the names of blocks for which contracts have been Signed; state:

(a) whether the Government (d) the names of blocks for which propose to take up a project to connect negotiations with the short·listed bidders the islands around Cochin in KeraJa; are In progress;

(b) if so, the estimated total cost (e) the names of blocks for which of the project; the bidders are yet to be shoIt-liated; 433 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 434

(f) the names of blocks for which received are given in the enclosed no bid had been received and the reasons Statement. for lack of interest; (g) Yes, Sir. (g) whether the Government have formulated a standard agreement for (h) The contracts would be such contracts; and production-sharing contracts with a contract period, in case of crude oil and (h) if so, the details thereof? associated gas of upto 25 years. Companies are exempted from payment of bonuses and statutory levies. The THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Government of India would have the first THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND right of refusal in respect of the oil NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR produced under these contracts, with SHARMA): (a) Yes, Sir. companies being paid for their share of oil at intemational price. Provision for (b) to (f). The information regarding participation by ONGC/OIL in the venture dates of offer, the basins from which at the exploration and/or the development blocks have been offered, details of stage has been made and ONGC/OIL blocks, their area, blocks for which could have a participating interest of 30% contracts have been signed, blocks for to 40% in the venture. Provisions have which negotiations are in progress, blocks also been made for the development of for which negotiations are yet to be held commercially exploitable natural gas and blocks for which no bids have been resources.

STATEMENT

Basin! Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negolia- Contract Received tion in lion Yet Signed Progress To Start

Fourth Round (Date of Offer. September, 1991)

Andamand Offshore

AN-OS-90/1 7010 NO NO NO NO

AN-OS-90/2 6240 NO NO NO NO

AN-OS-9OI3 7530 NO NO NO NO

AN-OS-9OI4 19300 NO NO NO NO 435 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 436

Basin! Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negotia- Contract Received tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

AN-OS-90/5 13100 NO NO NO NO

AN-OS-90/6 12300 NO NO NO NO

AN-OS-9017 18975 NO NO NO NO

AN-OS-90/8 14600 NO NO NO NO

AN-OS-90/9 11100 NO NO NO NO

AN-OS-90/10 6460 NO NO NO NO

AN-OS-90/11 5110 NO NO NO NO

Bengal Offshore

NEC-OS-90/1 16000 NO NO NO NO

NEC-OS-90/2 7300 NO NO NO NO

WB-OS-90/1 6440 NO NO NO NO

Bengal Onshore

WB-ON-9O/1 10150 YES BID REJECTED NO

WB-ON-90/2 7520 NO NO NO NO

Bombay Offshore

BB-08-9O/1 9945 NO NO NO NO

BB-08-90/2 10040 NO NO NO NO

BB-08-9OI3 13470 NO NO NO NO

B8-08-90/4 19270 YES OFFER WITHDRAWN BY BIDDER

Cachar Onshore

CR-oN-90/1 2570 YES BID REJECTED NO 437 Written AnswelS SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 438

Basin! Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negotia- Contract Received tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

Cauvery Offshore

CY-OS-90/1 81 YES YES NO

Deccan Syneclise Onshore

DS-ON-90/1 92070 NO NO NO NO

Ganga Valley Onshore

GV-ON-90/1 17600 NO NO NO NO

GV-ON-90/2 24440 NO NO NO NO

GV-ON-90/3 30000 NO NO NO NO

GV-ON-90/4 34000 NO NO NO NO

GV-ON-90/5 24000 NO NO NO NO

GV-ON-90/S 15960 NO NO NO NO

GV-ON-90n 14800 NO NO NO NO

Gondwana Onshore

GN-ON-90/1 18400 NO NO NO NO

GN-ON-90/2 13400 NO NO NO NO

GN-ON-90/3 29200 YES· YES

Gujarat Kutch Onshore

GK-ON-90/1 36895 YES BID REJECTED NO

GK-ON-90/2 4920 YES YES NO

GK-ON-9013 11820 YES BID REJECTED NO 439 Written Answers JULY 25. 1994 Written Answers 440

Basin/ Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negotia- Contract Received tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

Kerala Konkan Offshore

KK-OS-90/1 19575 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/2 18250 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/3 20755 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/4 27955 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/5 29290 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/6 27700 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/7 24670 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/8 37010 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/9 45675 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/10 15580 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/11 41915 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/12 20755 NO NO NO NO

Krishna-Godarvari Offshore

KG-OS-90/1 4367 YES NO

KG-OS-90/2 4875 NO NO NO NO

KG-OS-90/3 4495 YES BID REJECTED NO

KG-OS-90/4 9425 NO NO NO NO

Mahanadi Offshore

MN-OS-90/1 9700 NO NO NO NO 441 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 442

Basinl Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negotia- Contract Received tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

MN-OS-90/2 7600 NO NO NO NO

MN-OS-90/3 5800 NO NO NO NO

Mahanadi Onshore

MN-ON-90/1 7550 NO NO NO NO

MN-ON-90/2 3800 NO NO NO NO

Mizoram Onshore

MZ-ON-90/1 9260 NO NO NO NO

Palar Offshor

PR-OS-90/1 7800 NO NO NO NO

Palar Onshore

PR-ON-90/1 7225 NO NO NO NO

Punjab Onshore

PB-ON-90/1 6640 NO NO NO NO

PB-ON-90/2 24600 NO NO NO NO

Rajasthan Onshore

RJ-ON-90/1 8230 YES YES NO

RJ-ON-90/2 13100 YES BID REJECTED NO

RJ-ON-90/3 23820 YES BID REJECTED NO

RJ-ON-90/4 16600 NO NO NO NO

RJ-ON-90/5 16030 NO NO NO NO 443 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 444

Basin! Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negotia- Contract Received tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

Vindhyan Onshore

VN-ON-90/1 32800 NO NO NO NO

VN-ON-90/2 37200 NO NO NO NO

VN-ON-90/3 16000 NO NO NO NO

VN-ON-90/4 22000 NO NO NO NO

VN-ON-90/5 28000 NO NO NO NO

Total 13 3 2

FIFTH ROUND

(DATE OF OFFER: JANUARY, 1993)

Assam-Arakan

AA-ON/3 3000 NO NO NO NO

ASM-ON/9211 3070 NO NO NO NO

ARP-ON/9212 1900 NO NO NO NO

ARP-ON/9213 350 NO NO NO NO

CR-ON/90/1 2570 NO NO NO NO

Bengal

WB-OS/90/1 6440 NO NO NO NO

WB-ONOS/l 12800 YES NEGOTIATIONS COMPLETED NO 445 Written Answem SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answem 446

Basin! Area Whether Whether Whether Whether 810ck Sq. Kms. 8id Negotia- Negotia- Contract Received tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

W8-0N/3 11000 NO NO NO NO

Bombay

88-0S/90/1 9915 NO NO NO NO

88-0S/90/2 10040 NN NO NO NO

88-0S/90/3 13470 NO NO NO NO

88-0S/90/5 9095 YES NEGOTIATIONS COMPLETED NO

88-0Sl6 7020 NO NO NO NO

88-0S/7 6000 NO NO NO NO

88-OS/8 8225 YES NEGOTIATIONS COMPLETED NO

88-0S/9 17820 NO NO NO NO

Cauvery

CY-OS/2 14996 YES NEGOTIATIONS COMPLETED NO

CY-OS/5 13000 NO NO NO NO

Gujarat-Kutch

GK-ONl90/1 36895 NO NO NO NO

GK-OS/5 5000 YES NEGOTIATIONS COMPLETED NO

Gujarat-Saurashtra

GS-ONI1 43000 NO NO NO NO

Kerala-Konkan

KK-OS-9OI4 27955 NO NO NO NO 447 Written Answers JULY 25,1994 Written Answers 448

Basin! Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negotia- Contract Received tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

KK-OS-90/6 2nOO NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/10 15580 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/11 41915 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS-90/12 20755 NO NO NO NO

KK-OS/13 22950 NO NO NO NO

Krishna-Godavari

KG-OS-90/2 4675 NO NO NO NO

KG-OS-90/3 4495 YES NEGOTIATIONS COMPLETED NO

KG-OS-90/4 9425 NO NO NO NO

KG-OS/5 5626 NO NO NO NO

KG-OS/6 8n5 YES NEGOTIATIONS COMPLETED NO

Mahanadi

MN-ON-90/1 7550 NO NO NO NO

MN-ON-90/2 3800 NO NO NO NO

MN-OS-90/1 9700 NO NO NO NO

MN-OS-90/2 7600 NO NO NO NO

MN-OS-90/3 5800 NO NO NO NO

Nortw-East-coast

NEC-OS-90/2 7300 NO NO NO NO

NEC-OS-9213 6100 NO NO NO NO 449 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 450

Basin! Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negotia- Contract Received tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

Palar

PR-OS/2 8100 NO NO NO NO

Rajasthan

RJ-ON/90/2 16100 NO NO NO NO

RJ-ON/90/3 28820 YES NEGOTIATIONS COMPLETED NO

RJ-ON/90/4 16800 YES NEGOTIATIONS COMPLETED NO

RJ-ON/90/5 16030 YES NEGOTIATIONS COMPLETED NO

RJ-ON/6 5390 NO NO NO NO

Total 10

SIXTH ROUND

(DATE OF OFFER: AUGUST, 1993)

Assam-Arakan

AA-ON/1 25700 NO NO NO NO

AA-ON/2 13250 NO NO NO NO

AA-ON/3 3000 NO NO NO NO

AA-ON/4 6500 NO NO NO NO

AA-ON/5 1700 NO NO .NO NO

AA-ON/6 2400 NO NO NO NO

AA-ONf7 1800 NO NO NO NO 451 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 452

Basin! Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negotia- Contract Received tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

ASM-ON-9211 3070 YES NO YES NO

ARP-ON-9212 1900 YES NO YES NO

ARP-ON-9213 350 NO NO NO NO

CR-ON-90/1 2570 NO NO NO NO

Bengal

WB-ON-9OI1 10150 YES YES NO

WB-ON-90/2 7520 NO NO NO NO

WB-ONl3 11000 NO NO NO NO

WB-OS-90/1 6440 NO NO NO NO

NEC-08-90/2 7300 NO NO NO NO

NEC-OS-9213 6100- NO NO NO NO

Bombay

BB-08-90/l 9945 NO NO NO NO

B8-08-90/2 10040 YES NO YES NO

88-08-90/3 13470 NO NO NO NO

B8-08-9OI4 19270 NO NO NO NO

BB-OSl6 7020 NO NO NO NO

BB-OS17 6000 YES NO YES NO

BB-OS19 17820 NO NO NO ,.. 453 Written AnswelS SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 454

Basin! Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negotia- Contract Received tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

Cambay

CB-ONl2 1710 YES YES NO

CB-ONl3 510 NO NO NO NO

CB-ON/4 400 NO NO NO NO

CB-ONl5 730 NO NO NO NO

CB-ONIS 145 NO NO NO NO

CB-ON/7 525 YES YES NO

CB-Os/1 3290 YES YES NO

C8-0S/2 3590 YES YES NO

Cauvery

CY-OS/5 13000 NO NO NO NO

Gujarat-Kutch

GK-ON-90/1 36895 NO NO NO NO

GK-ON-90/3 11820 NO NO NO NO

GK-OS/6 2275 YES YES NO

Gujarat-Saurashtra

GS-ONll 43000 YES NO YES NO

Krtshna-Godavart

KG-ONl1 4\&) 00 00 "'(} 00

KG-05-9OI2 4675 NO NO NO NO 455 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 456

Basinl Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negotia- Contract Received tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

KG-OS-90/4 9425 NO NO NO NO

KG-OS/5 5625 NO NO NO NO

Pumea

PA-ON/i 10500 NO NO NO NO

PA-ONl2 7400 NO NO NO NO

PA-ON/3 4550 NO NO NO NO

Rajasthan

RJ-ON-90/2 18100 NO NO NO NO

RJ-ON/6 5390 YES YES NO NO

TOTAL 12 7 5

SEVENTH ROUND

(DATE OF OFFER: JANUARY, 1994)

Andaman

AN-OS-9214 3100 NO NO NO NO

Assam-Arakan

AA-DNl1 25700 NO NO NO NO

AA-DN12 13250 NO NO NO NO

AA-DNl3 3000 YES NO YES NO

AA-DNl4 6500 NO NO NO NO

AA-DNIS 1700 NO NO NO NO 457 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 458

Basinl Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negotia- Contract Received tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

AA-o.N/6 2400 NO. NO. NO. NO.

AA-o.Nn 1800 NO. NO. NO. NO.

AAP-o.N-94/1 870 NO. NO. NO. NO.

ARP-o.N-9213 350 NO. NO. NO. NO.

CR-o.N-90/1 2570 NO. NO. NO. NO.

Bengal

NEC/o.SI90/2 7330 NO. NO. NO. NO.

NEC/o.S/9213 6100 NO. NO. NO. NO.

WB/o.S/90/1 6440 NO. NO. NO. NO.

WB/o.N/90/2 7520 NO. NO. NO. NO.

WB/o.N/3 11000 NO. NO. NO. NO.

Bombay

BB-o.S/90/1 9945 NO. NO. NO. NO.

BB-o.SI90/3 13470 NO. NO. NO. NO.

BB-o.S190/4 19270 NO. NO NO. NO.

BB-o.8I6 7020 YES NO. YES NO.

BB-QS19 17820 NO NO. NO. NO

Cambay

CB-o.Nl1 7300 YES NO YES NO

CB-ON13 510 . YES NO YES NO 459 Written Answets JULY 25, 1994 Written Answets 460

Basin! Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negotia- Contract Received tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

CB-o.Nl4 400 YES NO. YES NO.

CB-ONl5 730 YES NO. YES NO.

CB-ONl6 145 YES NO. YES NO.

Cauvery

Cy-o.N-OSll 4725 YES NO. YES NO.

Cy-o.Sl3 7162 NO. NO. NO. NO.

CY-OSl4 3402 NO. NO. NO. NO.

Cy-o.Sl5 13000 NO. NO. NO. NO.

Cy-o.Sl6 5300 NO. NO. NO. NO.

Gujarat-Kutch

GK-o.N-90/1 36895 NO. NO. NO. NO.

GK-ON-90/3 11820 NO. NO. NO. NO.

GK-o.Nl4 1550 YES NO. YES NO.

Krishna-Godavari

KG-o.Nll 4180 NO. NO. NO. NO.

KG-o.SI9OI1 1-675 NO. NO. NO. NO.

KG-OSI9014 9425 NO. NO. NO. NO.

KG-o.Sl5 5625· NO. NO. NO. NO.

Punjab

PB-ONl4 19640 NO. NO. NO. NO. 461 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 462

Basin/ Area Whether Whether Whether Whether Block Sq. Kms. Bid Negotia- Negotia- Contract Recei\ed tion in tion Yet Signed Progress To Start

Pumea

PA-ON/1 10800 NO NO NO NO

PA-ON/2 7480 NO NO NO NO

PA-ON/3 4550 NO NO NO NO

Rajasthan

RAJ-ON-94/1 3500 NO NO NO NO

RAJ-ON/90/2 13100 NO NO NO NO

Saurashtra

SR-OS-94/1 9150 YES NO YES NO

TOTAL 10 10

Untreated Water for Ice Cream THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI TARUN GOGOI): 195. SHRI MOHAN RAWALE: Will (a) The manufacturing of ice cream is too Minister of FOOD PROCESSING reserved in the small scale sector and INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: no industrial licence is required for the manufacturing of ice cream in small (a) whether Government are aware scale. of the mushroom grow1h of smaU ice- cream plants in Delhi; (b) and (c). The quality and purity of ice cream is regulated and action is taken under the Prevention of Food (b) whether these small plants do Adulteration Act. not adhere to the purity standarcc; laid down by the Government; and Programmes Financed for Oil and Gas Exploration (c) if so, the action the Government has taken or propose to take against 196. SHRI JAGMEET SINGH such ice-cream manufactures? SRAR: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM 463 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 464

AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to Year MMT state:

1992-93 26.95 (a) the details of programmes financed for oil and gas exploration 1993-94 27.17 during the Eigth Five Year Plan including public, private and foreign financial 1994-95 investment separately alongwith the 32.51 projected production targets, year-wise; 1995-96 38.37

(b) the details of international 1996-97 44.45 assistance so far committed for the oH and gas exploration programme; and (~ The International Assistance committed to ONGC Ltd., for its various (c) the details of the programme for development schemes during the 8th the international bid for all types of wells Five Year Plan Period is given below:- and the policy modifications? (Rs.lcrores) THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Institutional Loan 3521.54 THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) The programmes to be Supplierlbuyers credit 2n4.88 financed for oil and gas exploration of Oil and Natural Gas Corporation Limited and World Bank relending by Oil India Limited during the 8th Five Year Government of India 464.00 Plan are as follows:-

6760.42 (Rslcrores) As regards OIL, for their oil and Survey Drilling gas exploration development and production functions, the World Bank has committed a loan of US $ 140 million in ONGC Ltd. 732.31 11308.31 1987.

OIL 176.00 647.97 (c) Two rounds of offers of discovered fields have been made so far. Blocks for exploration are also being Privatelforeign investment in offered on a continuous round-the-year exploration is not quantifiable since wort< baais. Recently, under the 7th Round of programmes are committed without any bidding for exploration of oil and gas, 12 minimum expenditure commitment. bids have been received tor 10 blocks by the last date of 30th June, 1994. The yearwise 011 production during Incentives offerJKi for both the exploration the Plan Period will be as foIIowa:- blocks .and discovered fields Include 8 465 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 466

concessional rate of corporate tax, retail outlets of Kerosene in GUjarat, payment of intemational price for the particularly in tribal areas, as on June 30, company's share of oil, exemption from 1994; customs duty and pricing of gas produced on internationally accepted principles. (b) the number of proposals out of them related to tribal areas of Gujarat; Export from Visakhapatnam and

197. SHRI S.M. LALJAN BASHA: (c) the steps taken for granting Will the Minister of STEEL be pleased approval to these proposals? to state:

(~) the total export of steel from THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Visaknapatnam Steel Plant in 1993-94; THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR (b) whether the Government SHARMA): (a) to (c). Proposals to set prvI.cse to convert this plant into an up 53 RO dealerships, 65 LPG ExpOr1 Oriented Unit; and distributorships and 12 SKO-lDO dealerships at different locations in Gujarat including tribal areas are part of the (c) if so, the details thereof? current Marketing Plans. Selection of dealers/distributors for the locations THE MINISTER OF STATE OF included in the approved Marketing Plans THE MlNISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI are in progress as per prescribed SONT0'6H MOHAN DEV): (a) procedUfe through the Oil Selection Board Visakhapatnam Steel Plant exported 4.07 (Gujarat). lakh tonnes of Steel valuing Rs. 343.29 crores during 1993-94. Besides, VlSakhapatnam Steel Plant also exported {English] 6.02 lakh tonnes of Pig Iron valuing Rs. 253.16 crores during 1993-94. Consumption of lubricants

(b) No, Sir. 199. SHRI S.B. SIDNAl: WiH the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NAruRAL (c) Does not arise. GAS be pleased to state:

[Translation] (a) the total consumption of lubricants in the country during 1992-93, LPGlPetrollKeroaene outlets in 1993-94 and the estimated consumption Gujand during 1994-95;

198. SHAI N.J. RATHVA: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NA ruRAL (b) whether the Government GAS be pleased to state: propose to take steps to reduce the increasing consumption of lubricants; and

(a) the details of the proposals for opening LPG agencies, petrol pumps and (e) if so, the details thereof? 467 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 468

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): SHARMA): (a) The total quantities of (a) and (b). Foreign investment by private lubricants marketed by the Public Sector participation has been invited by the Oil Companies during 1992-93, 1993-94 Government. Proposals have been and the estimated consumption during received from several foreign investors 1994-95 are given below:- for investing in the Ports sector and not from the countries.

Year Sales (In TMTs) (c) and (d). Kandla Port has entered into an agreement for leasing berth No. 1992-93 752 6 to MIs. Gee Pee Corporation Limited, Bangkok for handling of bulk and break 1993-94 692 bulk cargoes. (Provisional) Southern Gas Grid 1994-95 780 (Esimated 201. SHRI MULLAPPALL Y Consumption) RAMCHANDRAN: SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: (b) and (c). The Govemment have DR. LAXMINARA YAN initiated various measures for PANDEYA: conservation and reduction in consumption SHRI P.C. THOMAS: of lubricants. This includes the introduction of multigrade long drain lubricating oils Will the Minister of PETROLEUM by the Public Sector Oil Companies. AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Shipping and Ports Sector

(a) whether any financial decision 200. SHRI D. VENKATESWARA has been taken to set up a Southem Gas RAO: Will the Minister of SURFACE Grid; TRANSPORT be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details thereof; (a) whether Government have invited foreign countries to invest in the (c) whether any negotiation with Shipping and Ports sector in 1994; Oman Oil Company or any other country is underway; (b) if so, the details of countries that propose to invest in this sector; (d) if so, the present terms and conditions of the agreements offered by (c) whether any agreements have Oman Oil Company;. been signed; and (e) whether the ChIef Ministers of (d) if 50, the details thereof? Southem States have represented this 469 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 470

proposal before the Union Government; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF and THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR (f) if so, the details of response SHARMA): (a) to (c). A few foreign thereto? companies have plans to market LPG by setting up joint ventures with Indian THE MINISTER OF STATE OF private and public sector companies. THE MINISTRY GF PETROLEUM AND These foreign companies include Shell NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR International, Caltex Petroleum SHARMA): (a) and (b). Although the Corporation, Mundogas etc. They' are in concept of Southem Gas Grid has been the process of developing necessary accepted in principle, no investment infrastructure for importing and marketing decision has been taken as yet. LPG.

(c) and (d). The principal terms of Power Shortage in Madhya Pradesh the Long Term Gas Supply Contract to be signed with Oman Oil Company are 203. SHRI KHELAN RAM JANGDE: being discussed. Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: (e) and (f). The Chief Ministers of the Southern States have demanded the (a) the shortage of power being early projectisation of the gas grid. The faced by Madhya Pradesh and Gujarat State Govemments of the Southern region at present and the annual loss suffered have been asked to firm up the locations by the States during the course of and the requirements of gas based transmission of power; projects. (b) whether the Union Government [Translation] propose to check the loss suffered due to transmission and to provide any LPG Distribution financial assistance to the States for modernisation to transmission system? 202. SHRI BHAGWAN SHANKAR RAWAT: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ",NO NATURAL GAS be pleased to MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. state: RANGAYVA NAIDU): (a) The shortage of power being faced by' Madhya Pradesh and Gujarat at present are 9.6% and (a) whether the Government have 3.6% respectively. The annual T&D loss received any proposal from foreign suffered by Madhya Pradesh and Gujarat companies for distribution of LPG in the during 1992-93 were 22.52% and 22.20% country; respectively .

(b) if ao, the details thereof; and (b) Comprehensive guidelines have been issued by CentJlU Electricity Authority (c) the cities in which the foreign to the Power utilities for reducing companies propose to start gas Transmission and Distribution losses. distribution system? These include, conducting of Energy Audit 471 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 472

for identifying the system elements (a) whether the Government have responsible for excessive losses, instaHing received offer for foreign investment in capacitors to improve the voltage profile, the shipping sector; preparation of system improvement schemes for strengthening the improvement of the systems, installing (b) if so, the details thereof; tamper-proof meter boxes, intensifying surprise raids and launching prosecution (c) the reaction of the Government against the persons found indulging in thereto; theft of energy. Theft of energy has been made a cognisable offence from August 1986 under the provision of Section-39 of (d) the details of foreign assistance the Indian Electricity Act, 1910. An sought for development and incentive scheme was also introduced by modernisation of ports in Maharashtra; the Government of India among the State and Electricity Boards/Electricity Departments from the year 1987 for bringing about reduction in Transmission & Distribution (e) allocation and utilisation of losses. Power distribution falls within the central funds during the last three years preview of Electricity Boards/Electricity for development of shipping and ports in Departments constituted by the State Maharashtra? Governments. The power utilities have to arrange financial resources on their own for modernisation of their power systems. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE [Eng/ish] TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) Yes, Sir. Foreign Assistance for Shipping

204. SHRI SANDI PAN BHAGWAN (b) and (c). Government have THORAT: Will the Minister of SURFACE approved the proposals of the follOwing TRANSPORT be please to state: foreign companies:-

51. Name of the Company Nature of foreign investment No.

1. MIs. G~e Shipping 40% foreign equity participation Company Umited. Bombay. to acquire the vessels.

2. MIs. Sea. Span Shipping 51 % foreign equity Company Bombay. participation to acquire the ships.

3. Mis. Ready Foods Umlted 50"" NRI contribution to BangaJore. operate Shipping Services. 473 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 474

SI. Name of the Company Nature of foreign investment No.

4. MIs. Shreyas Shipping 72% share in the paid up Limited, Bombay. capital as foreign equity participation for operating shipping service in the country.

5. MIs. West Asia Maritime Investment to the extent of Limited, Madras. US $ 12 mimon as equity capital by promoters and associates.

6. MIs. Sambawang Shipyard 50% of equity participation Limited, Madras. for providing tumkey instrumentation job.

7. MIs. Ugland Maritime 51 %. foreign equity participation Services Limited, for providing crew manning Bombay. services, ship repair services, technical inspection and ship related technical services.

8. MIs. Marine Management Proposal to formulate a Joint Services Pvt. Limited, Venture Company with B.T. Bombay. Shipping Limited, Bermuda to acqire a ship. The company has proposed to invest 100% equity of the capital.

9. MIs. Panalpina World CoRaboration in freight Transport, Switzeriand. forwarding with equity participation to the extent of 99.9% by foreign coilaboratorlNRI.

10. MIs. Concord Freight Foreign collaboration in sea' System Limited, and air transport systems Bahamus. with equity participation to the extent of 50%.

11. Mis. Hecny South West Foreign collaboration in clearing Asia Limited, British, consolidating and forwarding agents Vergin. for sea and air cargoes with equity participation to .the extent of 40% 475 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 476

The proposal of MIs. Hoko Express Maharashtra and will be laid on the Table Limited, Hong Kong, regarding foreign of the House as and when received. collaboration in cargo handling for air and shipping cargo was not approved by the Government. (e) Allocation and Utilisation of Central Fund during last three years for (d) Information is being collected development of Ports in Maharashtra is from the State Government of as under:-

(Rs. in crores)

Allocation Utilisation

1991-92 1992-93 1993-94 1991-92 1992-93 1993-94

Bombay Port 40.00 73.43 86.00 12.45 26.09 43.38

Jawaharlal Nehru Port. 65.40 57.30 63.00 42.80 26.92 15.25

Total 105.40 130.73 149.00 55.25 53.01 58.63

No funds have been allocated for shipping during the last three years.

(TranslationJ (c) the time by which the waiting lists are likely to be cleared?

Waiting List for LPG Connections THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR 205. SHRI S.L. SHARMA PREM: SHARMA): (a) to (c) A statement showing Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND distributorwise waiting list for LPG NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: connections in Delhi is given in the enclosed Statement. New LPG connections are released in a phased (a) the number of persons in waiting manner throughout the country including Jist for LPG connections with each of the Delhi depending upon the availability of distributor in Delhi; LPG, total new customer enrolment, waiting list, slack available with the (b) the reasons for not providing dIStributors and their viability. Efforts are, gas connection to them; and however, constantly on to release LPG connedlons to as many applicants and as early as possible. 477 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 478

STATEMENT

Distributorwise waiting list in Delhi as on 1.7.1994

SI. Distributor Name Location Waiting List No.

1. Shreshtha Gas Service Delhi 1947

2. Kansal Gas Service Delhi 3033

3. Vee Vee Enterprises Delhi 16363

4. M S Enterprises Deihl 8817

5. A~un Enterprises Delhi 5581

6. Keerti Gas Service Delhi 4649

7. Jagan Enterprises Delhi 7714

8. Gauri Enterprises Delhi 16547

9. Amrit Enterprises Delhi 3000

10. Amar Gas Service Delhi 5964

11. Jagannath Enterprises Delhi 2521

12. Agro Industrial Commodities Delhi 290

13. Aar Kay Enterprises Delhi 1271

14. Amar Geet Gas Service Delhi 1256

15. Anantji Gas Service Delhi 347

16. "tul Ent9tpns9s Delhi 1324

17. o P Thakore & Company Delhi 583

18. Devi Anupama Gas Service Delhi 1953 479 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 480

SI. Distributor Name Location Waiting Ust No.

19. Cactus Ully Enterprises Delhi 43

20. ,Jayant Gas Service Delhi 2017

21. Jagjyoti Enterprises Delhi 901

22. Mahanil Gas Service Delhi 2534

23. Manohar Gas service Delhi 1039

24. Shivanika Enterprises Delhi 2970

25. Popular Chemist Delhi 1105

26. Sunil Enterprises Delhi 698

27. South Delhi Gas Service-I Delhi 663

28. Bhakti Enterprises Delhi 3091

29. Vikram Enterprises Delhi 1555

30. Aftab Enterprises Delhi 1394

31. Necolian Enterprises Delhi 2938

32. Sondhi Gas Service Delhi 7064

33. Hitebh Enterprises Delhi 758

34. Usha Gas Service Delhi 2406

35. Dikshit Gas Seva Delhi 4518

36. Sona Enterprises DeIhl 2866

37. 0aJIp Gas Service DellI 93

38. AIka Flame DellI 1760 481 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 482

SI. Distributor Name Location Waiting List No.

39. Bakbon Gas Service Delhi 921

40. Kanwal Gas Service Delhi 763

41. Kiran Gas Service Delhi 4976

42. Zaliadhar Gas Service Delhi 6051

43. Jagdamba Sai Gas Agencies Delhi 3172

44. Vear Jyoti Enterprises Delhi 1141

45. Anubha Gas Agency Delhi 642

46. Jattin Gas Service Delhi 2845

47. Kay Aar Enterprises Delhi 1028

48. Flame Centre Delhi 1259

49. Fayal Gas Delhi 760

SO. Vidhya Sagar Gas Agencies Delhi 1660

51. Santosh Enterprises Delhi 1834

52. G.S. Enterprises Delhi 8214

53. O.P. Agency Delhi 5449

54. Saroj Enterprises Delli 1347

55. K.S.B. Enterprises Delhi 986

56. A Reserve Petroleum Depot Delhi 6658

57. Ranvir Enterprises DellI 2509

58. Patparganj Gas Service DellI 2574 483 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 484

SI. Distributor Name Location Waiting List No

59. Shubh Gas Service Delhi 1979

60. Hari Singh Gas Service Delhi 4420

61. Poonam Gas Agency Delhi 3841

62. J J Gas Service Delhi 3416

63. Vishal Gas Service Delhi 4693

64. Perey Lal & Sons P. Ltd. Delhi 227

65. Rajdhani Gas Service Delhi 3480

66. Sanjiv Gas Service Delhi 465

67. Shaheed Subhash Gas Service Delhi 3537

68 Sagar Enterprises Delhi 1721

69. Joginder Enterprises Delhi 4638

70. Veena Gas Service Delhi 1679

71. Kataria Gas Service Delhi 4281

72 Paradise E'lterprises Delhi 3483

73. Rajhans Gas Service Delhi 834

74. Jaspreet Gas Service Delhi 2245

75. Leela Gas Service Delhi 2389

76. S I Gas Agency Delhi 682

77. C La! & Sons DeIhl 1309

78. Dee Pee Enterprises DelhI 2466 485 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 486

SI. Distributor Name Location Waiting Ust No.

79. B.N. Gupta & Co. Delhi 5463

80. Prem Gas Service Delhi 2067

81. Nath Traders Delhi 404

82. R K Agencies Delhi 2075

83. Sukh Dham Gas Service Delhi 1101

84. Unique Enterprises Delhi 2579

85. Shaurya Enterprises Delhi 6160

86. S.D.P. Enterprises Delhi 1783

87. Tanwar Gas Service Delhi 1777

88. Qutab Gas Service Delhi 2105

89. Blossoms Enterprises Delhi 594

90. P C Gas Service Delhi 1693

91- Banaras Gas Service Delhi 1229

92. Pra Jyoti Enterprises Delhi 4605 .. 93. Tanushree Gas Service Delhi 548

94. Associated Trading Co. Delhi 3574

95. Deepti Enterprises Delhi 1198

96. Bite Agencies Delhi 2015

97. Kalkaji Gas Service Delhi 1244

98. Shahl Automobiles Delhi 5725 487 Written Answers JULY 25,1994 Written Answers 488

SI. Distributor Name Location Waiting Ust No.

99. Nandi Gas Distributors Delhi 12145

100. Angad Enterprises Delhi 3485

101. Nipro Gas Agency Delhi 1728

102. Ess Bee Enterprises Delhi 4418

~03. Rohini EntefPrises Delhi 1006

104. Gandhi Nagar Gas Service Delhi 7282

105. Karol Bagh Gas Agency Delhi 198

106. KWIC Gas Service Dethi 1545

107. Raminder Gas Service Delhi 4798

108. Rakant Enterprises Delhi 3742

109. Vicky Agencies Delhi 4153

110. Vijay Rattan Enterprises Delhi 5153

111. Citizen Gas Enterprises Delhi 1109

112. Delhi State Civil Supplies Delhi 1360

113. Shanna Gas Company DelhI 17327

114. Shalimar Gas DeIhl 2871

115. Japneet Enterprises Delhi 1370

116. Arya Gas Service DeIhl 1556

117. Sabharwal Enterprises Delhi 3241

118. Khan Enterprises Delhi 4033 489 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 490

SI. Distributor Name Location Waiting List No.

119. K-2 Intemational Delhi 4394

120. Alik Gas Agency Delhi 3163

121. Supreme Enterprises Delhi 11235

122. Kichenaids Delhi 2675

123. Hem Gas Agency Delhi 1902

124. Sidhart Enterprises Delhi 459

125. Mars Enterprises Delhi 933

126. Vandana Enterprises Delhi 2286

127. Pear1 Gas Service Delhi 3662

128. Prem Nath Motors Pvt. Ltd. Delhi 1019

129. Prabhat Gas Service Delhi 1584

130. Abhu Gas Service Delhi 2701

131. Chandra Gas Service Delhi 10315

132. Evergreen Gas Agency Delhi 4327

133. Sunder Shyam Enterprises Delhi 3511

134. 8ahaj Enterprises Delhi 2680

135. Puneel Gas Service Delhi 1913

136. Rani Bagh Gas Service Delhi 1502

137. Kandhari Gas Service Delhi 683

138. Avtar Gas Service Delhi 1032 491. Written AnswelS JULY 25.1994 Written AnswelS 492

$I. Distributor Name Location . Waiting U~t No.

139. Priya Service Delhi 1234

140. Su~eet Fuel Depot. Delhi 1698

141. Airforce Gas Agency Delhi 0

142. Alok Gas Service Delhi 5822

143. Anand Gas Service Delhi 4551

144. Arora Gas Agency Delhi 1936

145. Ashoka Stores Delhi 117

146. Bharat Gas Service Delhi 6300

147. Chanakya & Siddhart Gas Co. Delhi 869

148. Dammo Enterprises Delhi 3747

149. Deepak Gas Service Delhi 2188

150. Durga Agencies Delhi 3n2

151. Engineers Enterprises Delhi 8139

152. Ess Ess Enterprises Delhi 191

153. Friends Gas Sennce Delhi 1708

154. Gautam Enterprises Delhi 8420

155. Hitesh Gas Service Delhi 3860

156. Jwala Agencies Delhi 533

157. Kain Gas Agency Delhi 11215

158. Kavert Enterprises DeIhl 1640 493 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 494

51. Distributor Name Location Waiting Ust No.

159. Kayson Enterprises Delhi 1117

160. Khera Gas Service Delhi 4168

161. Kitchen Care Delhi 5933

162. M. D. Enterprises Delhi 4082

163. Manvir Gas Agency Delhi 6240

164. Mayapuri Gas Co. Delhi 2234

165. Milind Gas Service Delhi 1626

166. Modem Cookeries Delhi 3027

167. Nikhil Gas Service Delhi 4938

168. Pankaj Gas Service ~# Delhi 16283

169. Pratap Jyoti Delhi 5122

170. Priyanika Gas Service Delhi 1244

171. Rahul Agencies Delhi 1154

172. Raja Gas Service Delhi 4070

173. Raman Gas Service Delhi 430

174. Ratawal Gas Service Delhi 2301

175. Robin Gas Service Delhi 3125

176. Rohit Gas Agency Delhi 4086

177. Ruchika Agencies Delhi 2967

178. Sachin Gas Service Delhi 253

179. Santoshi Gas Service Delhi 6267 495 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 496

SI. Distributor Name Location Waiting List No.

180. Sarla Enterprises Delhi 276

181. Satish & Company Delhi 1654

182. Sharman Gas Company Delhi 7823

183. Shiv Shakti Gas Service Delhi 419

184. Shyamji Enterprises Delhi 4620

185. Sunny Gas Service Delhi 4059

186. Umika Agencies Delhi 680

187. United Agencies Delhi 1504

188. Varun Gas Service Delhi 6600

189. Veejay Gas Service Delhi 2926

190. Victory Enterprises Delhi 1471

191. Westend Gas Service Delhi 2498

192. Vijay Gas Agency Delhi 32n

193. Sobhagya Agency Delhi 34

194. South Delhi Agencies Delhi 2636

195. Anand Stores Delhi 1817

196. Fairdeals DelhI 375

197. Gujatat Agencies Delhi 987

198. Smart Dry Cleaners DelhI 683

199. Standard Stores Delhi 2189 497 Written AnswelS SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 498

SI. Distributor Name Location Waiting Ust No.

2.00. Fairways Delhi 2644

201. Amit Gas Agency Delhi 570

202. Amarsons Delhi 1441

203. . Gujarat Gas House Delhi 1nO

204. DFllhi Gas Co. (Terminated) Delhi 1000

205. Sawhney Gas agency Delhi 5451

206. Mini Gas Service (Terminated) Delhi 0

207. Raju Gas Service Delhi 7435

208. Kamal Gas Service Delhi 1025

209. Ganga Enterprises Delhi 1023

210. Kamakhya Enterprises Delhi 410

211. Ram Agencies Delhi 1370

212. Smruti Gas Service Delhi 6448

213. Shivtej Enterprises Delhi 1451

214. Pelican Gas Agency Delhi 3068

215. Bawana Gas Service Delhi 2818

216. Devl Dayal Enterprises Delhi 2091

217. Trehun Sons Delli 2358

218. Cauber8 Delhi 6116

219. Navyug Agencies Delhi 1308 499 Written Answers JULY·25, 1994 Written Answers 500. , SL Distributor Name location Waiting LisI No.

220. Noble Traders Delhi 2016

221- Reliance Traders Delhi 1104

222. Shakti Traders Delhi 1001

223. Paschim Gas Service Delhi 1071

224. Laxmi Enterprises Delhi 1958

225. West Delhi Gas Delhi 4018

226. Patel Nagar Gas (Terminated) Delhi 1313

227. Khullar Enterprises Delhi 1531

228. J.P. Gas Service Delhi 985

229. Prem Gas Delhi 700

230 Srij Gas Delhi 870

231- Vardhman Gas Delhi 7002

New LPG Distributorship In Delhi. (c) if 90, the details thereof; and

206. SHRI S.L SHARMA PREM: (d) If not, the reasons therefor; Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (a) whether the number of LPG NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR <:1ealers in the capital are insufficient in SHARMA): (a) to (d). As on 1.4.1994, view of the requirement of LPG there were 229 LPG distributorships consumers; tunctlonignln Delhi. In addition, proposals for 27 more LPG dlstrbrtorshlps have (b) if so, whether the Govemment been Included In the current LPG propose to appoint new gas dealers In Marketing Plan for Deihl. Selection of Delhi during 1994-95; distributors through the Oil Selection Board Is in progress. 501 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 502

[English] Auto Rickshaw Fares

Foreign guarantee policy for Private 208. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: Power Projects Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: 207. PROF. UMMAREDDY VENKATESWARLU: (a) whether after the recent hike in SHRI BRIJ BHUSHAN alito fares, the metres have been SHARAN SINGH: corrected to reflect the revised rates; SHRI LALIT ORAON: (b) if not, the reasons therefor; Will the Minister of POWER be pleased to state: (c) whether any check has been done to detect defective metres;

(a) whether the Government have (d) if so, the number of auto drivers agreed to provide guarantee for loans to found defaulting; and be taken by the Private Power Projects from the multi-national agencies that required such a guarantee under its (e) the action proposed to be taken statutes; against them?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) if so, the details of the policy THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE adopted in this regard; TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) to (e). The information is being (c) whether this guarantee has collected and will be laid on the Table helped in persuading the foreign countries of the House. to invest in India; and [Translation] (d) how many countries have now agreed to invest in power projects in Jyoti Basu Committee Report India? 209. PROF. RASA SINGH RAWAT: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of SURFACE MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. TRANSPORT be pleased to state: RANGAYYA NAIDU): (a) No Sir. (a) whether the Jyoti Basu Committee constituted to look into the (b) and (c). Do not arise. nation-wise strike by truckers in July, 1993 has submitted its report; (d) As on date proposals have been received for setting up of 35 power (b) if so, the findings and the projects from foreign based private recommendations of tI:le report; companies belonging to USA, UK, Germany, Australia, Japan, Matta and (c) whether the Government have Israel. considered this report; 503 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 504 (d) the steps proposed to be taken Road links to Tribal Areas in by Govemment in this regard and; Madhya Pradesh

(e) the income eamed by the States 210. SHRI KHELAN RAM JANGDE: through toll tax at present? Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: THE MINtS'TER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT (SHRI JAt'iDISH TYTLER): (a) whether Government have (a) Yes, Sir. received any proposal from the Government of Madhya Pradesh for (b) to (d). The Committee observed connecting the densely populated tribal that the Octroi is protected by Entry-52 areas to the main roads; and of the State list in the Constitution and there was no question of its abolition. (b) if so, the reaction of the However, their were delays at check- Government thereto? posts, which were often related to a possible complicity between a section of truck operators and a section of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF employees, resulting in tax evasion. THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE Therefore, the Committee recommended TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): that the States may within their own (a) and (b). Ministry of Surtace Transport Constitutional rights and specific is primarily responsible for development characteristics, choose to stream-line the and maintenance of National Highways system of levy, assessment and collection and all other roads including tribal roads of octroi and entry tax with a view to are mainly the responsibility of concemed reducing the delay and tax evasion. State Govemment and funds for the However, no action lies on the part of same are provided in State plan/Budget the Central Government on the under Minimum Needs Programme. recommendations of the Committee, since this is a Stale subject. {English]

(e) This toll (octroi) is not levied by Quality of Lubricants all States. As per information fumished to the Committee, the total eamings of some of the States are as follows:- 211. SHRI RAJNATH SONKAR SHASTRI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be Haryana As. 42 crores pleased to state: (approx)

Rajasthan Rs. 129 crores (for the year 1992-93) (a) whether the Government are aware that the lubricants available in the Orissa As. 32.95 crores capital are of spurious one; (for the year 1992-93)

Maharashtra As. 1090 crores (for the year 1992-93) (b) If so, the number of samples of lubricants lifted from the petrol pumps Gujarat As. 340 crores in Delhi in the last one year; 505 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 506

(c) the number of samples out of (d) if so, the details thereof: them found to be spurious and the action taken in the mailer; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE (d) whether the petrol pumps are TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): also not providing quality oil to the (a) Yes, Sir. consumers;

(b) Mis. Bremer Vulkan of Germany (e) if so, the number of cases of for fleet replenishment tanker for Navy providing less quantity of oil to the and Mis. Griffon Hovercrafts of consumers in Delhi detected in the last Southampton, UK for Hovercrafts for one year; and Coast Guard.

(f) the corrective steps the (c) Yes, Sir. government propose to take in this regard? (d) The Cooperation Agreement signed with Mis. Bremer Vulkan of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Germany is for providing design and THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND necessary data to enable Cochin Shpyard NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR Ltd. (CSL) to submit an offer for fleet SHARMA): (a) to (f). The information is tanker and subsequent construction of being collected and will be laid on the the vessel in CSL. The Memorandum of Table of the House. Understanding signed with Mis. Griffon Hovercrafts is for technology transfer and Cochin Shipyard Limited eventual manufacture of Hovercrafts in CSL. 212. SHRI ANNA JOSHI: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be Democratisation of UN Security pleased to state: Council

(a) whether the Cochin Shipyard 213. SHRI SHRAVAN KUMAR Limited (CSL) has recently sought PATEL: Will the Minister of EXTERNAL collaboration with foreign shipbuilding AFFAIRS be pleased to state: companies to enable it to undertake manufacture of fleet replenishment tankers for the Indian Navy and hovercraft for the (a) whether the Government have Coast Guard; taken any steps for the complete democratisation of the UN Security (b) if so, the particulars of the CounCil by way of increasing the foreign shipbuilding companies with which representation of developing countries collaboration tie up has been sought; and elimination of the provision of 'Veto Power'; and

(c) whether any agreements/ Memoranda of Understanding has been (b) if so, the details of the steps signed in this regard; and taken so far? 507 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 508

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS THE MINISTRY OF FOOD (SHRI R.L. BHATIA): (a) and (b). Yes PROCESSING INDUSTRIES (SHRI Sir. India supported Resolution 48/26 TARUN GOGOI): (a) to (c). Tbe entitled "Question of equitable information is being collected and will be representation on and increase in the laid on the Table of the House. membership of the Security Council", which was adopted by the 48th Session of the UN General Assembly by LPG Production and Distribution consensus. The resolution established an Open-Ended Working Group in which 215. SHRIMATI SAROJ DUBEY: India participates, to consider all aspects Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND of the question of an increase in the NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: membership of the Security Council and other matters related to its working. The Working Group will submit a report on (a) the target fixed br LPG the progress of its work to the General production and to provide LPG Assembly before the end of its 48th connections to the consumers during Session. The subject is on the provisional Eighth Five Plan; agenda of the 49th Session of the UN General Assembly this year. (b) the number of Consumer to whom LPG connections have been [Translation} provided so far, State-wise;

Fishing Trawlers (c) the number of applications registered in the waiting lists for LPG 214. SHRIMATI SAROJ DUBEY: connections State-wise; Will the Minister of FOOD PROCESSING INDUSTRIES be pleased to state: (d) whether the Government have any scheme to clear the waiting lists; and (a) whether some foreign companies propose to use large fishing trawlers (e) if so, the details thereof? which have disastrous effects on marine life; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (b) if so, whether the Government THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR propose to impose a ban on the use of SHARMA): (a) Revised LPG production such trawlers; and estimates and enrolment plans for LPG connections during the 8th plan period (c) if not, the reasons therefor? are as follows:- 509 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 510

LPG production estimated New enrolment plans for LPG connections (TMTPA) (LAKH)

1992-93 2571 8.7 (actual)

1993-94 2699 13.6 (provisional)

1994-95 2516 20.0 (planned)

1995-96 2536 10.0 (planned)

1996-97 2832 40.0 (planned)

(b) and (c). A Statement is annexed. Plans have been drawn for higher availability of LPG by increasing the (d) and (e). Efforts are constanlly capacity of existing production sources, on to release LPG connections to as Rutting up ney, plants and augmenting many applicants and as early as possible. the supply through higher imports.

STATEMENT

State LPG Customers· Waiting List for population with the LPG connections with public sector oil the public Sector companies as Oil Companies as on 1.4.1994 on 1.4.1994

Andhra Pradesh 16.46 7.55

Arunachal Pradesh 0.21 0.16

Assam 3.15 1.28

Bihar 6.45 2.95

Goa 1.31 0.60

Gujarat 17.93 8.50

Haryana 6.21 3.44

Himachal Pradesh 2.16 0.73 511 Written Answers JULY 25, 1994 Written Answers 512

State LPG Customers Waiting List for population with the LPG connections with public sector oil the public Sector companies as Oil Companies as on 1.4.1994 on 1.4.1994

Jammu & Kashmir 2.26 1.24

Kamataka 10.73 5.21

Kerala 7.23 4.79

Madhya Pradesh 11.00 4.42

Maharahstra 35.05 17.07

Manipur 0.44 0.13

Meghalaya 0.29 0.08

Mizoram 0.29 010

Nagaland 0.27 0.13

Orissa 2.76 1.24

Punjab 7.86 4.79

Rajasthan 7.51 7.61

Sikkim 0.10 0.10

Tamil Nadu 16.81 11.55

Tripura 0.33 0.28

Uttar Pradesh 23.56 13.39

West Bengal 10.63 8.70

Union Territories

Andaman & Nocobar 0.07 0.08 513 Written Answers SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 514

State LPG Customers Waiting List for population with the LPG connections with public sector oil the public Sector companies as Oil Companies as on 1.4.1994 on 1.4.1994

Chandigarh 1.43 0.75

Dadra & Nagar Haveli 0.04 0.02

Delhi 14.43 6.97

Daman & Diu 0.08 0.03

Lakshadweep 0.01 0.00

Pondicherry 0.33 0.29

Gas based Power Plant in Uttar (h) the total quantum of power in Pradesh Megawatts likely to be generated by these plants and the time by which these are likely to be commissioned? 216. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: Will the Minister of POWER be pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to state: MINISTRY OF POWER (SHRI P.V. RANGAVYA NAIDU): (a) and (b). TheU.P. State Electricity Board (UPSEB)I National (a) the names of the locations in Thermal Power Corporation (NTPC) had Uttar Pradesh at which it is planned to planned to set up the following gas based set up gas based power plants; and power plants in the State of Uttar Pradesh:

UPSEB:

1. Jagdishpur Combined 210 MW Cycle Gas TUlbine Project, Distt. Sultanpur

2. Avala Combined Cycle 600 MW Gas Turbine Project, Distt. Bareilly.

3. Babrala Combined 600 MW Cycle Gas Turbine Project, Distt. Badaun. 515 Written AnswelS JULY 25, 1994 Written AnswelS 516

4. Shahjahanpur Combined 600 MW Cycle Gas Turbine Project, Distt. Shahjahanpur

NTPC:

1. Farukhabad Combined 800 MW Cycle Gas Turbine Project, Distt. Farukhabad.

2. Dadri Combined Cycle 408 MW Gas Turbine Project-II, Distt. Ghaziabad

These schemes are not being NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR pursued as gas linkage for these does SHARMA): (a) No, sir. not exist. (b) to (d). Sometimes such Purchase of Gas Stove complaints are received. The customers are at liberty to purchase hot-plate from any source provided it bears the lSI 217. SHRI TEJ NARAYAN SINGH: marl(. The distributors have standing Win the Minister of PETROLEUM AND instructions not to insist on purchase of NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: hot-plate from them and are required to display a notice in their showrooms that (a) whether there is any provision it is not obligatory for a customer to to the effect that it is mandatory on the purchase hot-plate from the distributor part of consumers to buy gas stove from releasing the connection. The Mar1

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (8) whether a study has indicated THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND that the condition of the National Highways 517 Written Answe~ SRAVANA3, 1916 (SAKA) Written Answers 518 in the country has not been improving (c) Does not arise. over the years; and (d) The terminal can handle (b) if so, the steps proposed to be 1,80,000 TEVs of containers per annum. taken by the Government to rectify this situation? Container Terminal at Cochin

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF 220. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): be pleased to state: (a) and (b). There has been no specific study. However, maintenance of National (a) whether the new container Highways is a continuous process and terminal at Cochin Port is ready for roads are kept in a traffiC worthy condition commissioning; within the available resources.

(b) the total cost of this project; and Jawaharlal Nehru Port Trust

(c) whether this terminal will be 219. SHRI SANDIPAN BHAGWAN operated by private firms? THORAT: Will the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE (a) whether the government have TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): tinaiised a project for the construction of (a) The trial of one out of the two gantry a container terminal at Jawaharlal Nehru cranes to be installed at the container Port TrusT (JNPT); terminal has started.

(b) if so, the details thereof; (b) The estimated revised cost of the project is Rs. 70.38 crores. (c) the likely time of its completion; and (c) No, Sir.

(d) the benefIts to be' accured by New Port at Kakinada the implementation of this project? 221. SHRI M.V.V.S. MURTHY: Wili THE MINISTER OF STATE OF the Minister of SURFACE TRANSPORT THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE be pleased to state: TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) The container terminal at Jawahartal (a) whether Kakinada has emerged Nehru Port has already been constructed as a key commercial centre for import and commissioned long ago in 1989-90. and export of various commodities;

(b) There are 3 Container Berths (b) if so, wheiher Government equipped with 3 Rail Mounted Quay propose to construct a new port here; cranes alongwith allied equipments. and 519 Written Answers JULY 25; 1994 Written Answers 520

(c) if so, the main projects that will (a) whetner the Government be undertaken under this programme propose to deregulate the price of natural and the time by which these projects are gas in the hydrocarbons sector; likely to be completed? (b) if so, whether all the gas-based THE MINISTER OF STATE OF industries have been allowed to determine THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE the gas price; TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): (a) Yes, Sir (c) if so, whether the gas deregulation will also be in line with the (b) Deep water port is already parallel marketing scheme for imported under construction at Kakinada by the LPG and kerosene; and State Government of Andhra Pradesh with the assistance of Asian Development (d) if so, to what extent decontrolling Bank. natural gas price is going to help the Government and the customers? (c) The main components of the projects are as follows:- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (i) Construction of three berths. NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR SHARMA): (a) to (d). Gas prices have (ii) Construction of island break- been fixed by the Government for the water. period upto 31.12.1995. Fuel oil related prices of gas are being allowed to private (iii) Capital Dredging. developers of oillgas fields to attract more investment. This is envisaged to (iv) Procurement of floating craft. make available Natural Gas at competitive prices to consumers.

(v) Procurement of cargo handling equipments. Kerosene to Small Scale Industries

(vi) Provision of navigational aids 223. SHRI JAGMEET SINGH and other auxiliary facilities like SRAR: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM internal roads, administrative AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to buildings, fire-fighting, water state: supply, electrification etc. (a) whether the Union Government The project is expected to be have stopped allocating Kerosene to completed by August. 1996. small scale industries which they were getting through the Public Distribution Deregulation of price of Natural System at subsidised prices; and Gas (b) if so, the reasons therefor? 222. SHRI M.V.V.S. MURTHY: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND 521 Re: Adjournment Motion SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Re: Adjournment Motion 522

NATURAL GAS (CAPT. SATISH KUMAR MR. SPEAKER: Would all the SHARMA): (a) and (b). The Central questions like to get ventilated on one Government makes only bulk allocation and the same day? to the State Govemments every month, who arrange and control its distribution SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: It through the Public Distribution System. is for you to decide how and when should Only Kerosene supplied for domestic they be given went to. consumption is sold at subsidised rates. Supplies to small scale industries as per I had written a letter to you. Three allocations made by State Govemments Members of this House were assualted are made at the industrial rate. In view in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar during the last of the increasing availability of kerosene few days. Ours is the largest democracy in the open market through parallel in the world, a multi party democracy. marketing, State Governments have been being a pluralistic nation, we enter into advised not to allot Kerosene .to industries agreements and treaties with other states out of allocation made by Central but what condition prevails on our home Government and instead direct them to front? One can easily visualise the security parallel marketing. conditions of a common man, the predicament of his life, when the Members of this Parliament are not safe. I am pointing towards the assulats made on 12.00 hrs. the lives of Shri Advaniji. Shri George Femandes and a Member of Jana!a Dal RE: ADJOURNMENT MOTION (Bommai). Shri Ram Prasad Kushwaha.

[English] It is not a question of law and order MR. SPEAKER: I have received alone and. thus, I do not want to project many notices of Adjournment Motion on it as a matter of breach of privilege but killing of 70 persons by Bodo terrorists should not there be a proper arrangement in Barpeta. There are Adjoumment Motion for allowing the Members of Parliament notices given by Shri Vajpayeeji, Shri to carry on their work and political Mohan Singhji, Shri Chandra Jeet Yadavji, activities freely and uninterruptedly Shri Sharad Yadavji and there are other throughout the country? Should not they aspects also on which I have received get an assurance to this effect in this Adjoumment Motion notices. I will have House? 'The unfortunate part of it is that to hear as to how they can be admitted. the assailants of both UP and Bihar have direct or indirect connection with the [Translation] ruling party of these States. This is a matter of concern. I would like this House SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE to discuss this matter and that is why (Lucknow): Mr. Speaker, sir, with your I have given you this notice ... kind permission I would like to make one (Interruptions) more submission before I come to the notice of adjoumment motion given to Therefore, I had urged you to direct you. Our minds, like the cloudy sky the hon. Home Minister to come before outside, are also clouded with many the House with all the facts related to questions which are striving for ventilation. these incidents. It is for you to decide 523 Re : Adjoumment Motion JULY 25,1994 Re : Adjoumment Motion 524 as to under which rules this matter MR. SPEAKER: Vljpayee Ji, this is should be discussed, but it is a very not the time for regular discussion. serious matter. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAVEE: Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have also Mr. Speaker, Sir, by telling all this, I am given a notice of another question i.e. the making my case. You might say that this sugar scandal. The Parliamentary matter is related to the State Govemment Committee is conducting an inquiry into but I say that the Central Govemment the matter and the Government did not intervene into the Assam affair simultaneously, made an announcement on time. That is why the situation is regarding an Administrative preliminary slipping out of hand and see the language Enquiry. What does it mean? The of my adjoumment action. Mr. Speaker, Parliamentary Committee is an all-party Sir, you, are aware that I lay a great committee. Does not the Govemment emphasis on the proper language. have faith in that committee. That committee was going to record the MR. SPEAKER: That is why depositions but in the meanwhile you made a mention of that at the very declared a Govemment inquiry. We had outset. demanded a judicial, non-partisan enquiry. What do you mean by this. There was SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: such a great scandal and still a cover But you are reading out something else. up operation is going on. Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is also an important matter and I want that the 'adjoumment motion' about MR. SPEAKER: That I am telling which you made a mention of should be on behaH of everybody. taken up today. SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Central Governrnent Whatever happened in Assam is a has failed in its duty and for that we matter of concem for the whole nation denounce it and want a leave to be and the House should take notice of it. granted moving an adjournment motion The language of my adjoumment motion for on this question. does not speak of the massacre along but the Govemment of Assam has failed miserably in its duty and it is not I alone SHRI SHARAD YADAV who says that. Shri Pilot would agree (Madhepura): Mr. Speaker, Sir, the leader with me if he is present in the House. of the OppOsition, Shri Atal Bihari He had been there yesterday for an on- Vajpayee has raised three questions and the-spot assessment. I congratulate him I agree that these are very important for his prompt action. His comment was questions. The situation in Assam is very that the Govemment did not do the relief serious today and I suppose that many work. People were killed in the relief people have given notices of adjournment camps. Mr. Speaker, Sir, people ran into motion on It. Leave may kindly be granted the relief camps for the safety of their to move these motions. This matter has lives and they were killed there only. acquired serious dimension because the There was no police arrangement. The people who ran for their lives into the massacre lasted for 3 fuU hours. relief camps were massacred in the 525 Re: Adjournment Motion SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Re: Adjournment Motion 526 camps themselves due to inactiveness of out the names of the members of the the State administration. The Government Governments and parties that come to failed to provide security to the people surface whose hands were there behind who came into these relief camps from the Bhopal incident; there is an inquiry villages and other areas. There will be committee for that. But a Government no other matching example of' the existed in Bhopal and the former Prime inertness and callousness of the State Minister Shri V.P. Singh and I visited the administration of the Government of place. Our vans were broken and acid Assam in History. Therefore, it is a was thrown on us. A tumour had emerged serious matter and demands that leave on my head that was removed with the for moving the adjournment motion to be help of an operation. The rostrum was granted. The situation in the whole North- burnt to ashes. I was a victim of East has turned serious due to this brickbating at Gorakhpur which resulted inertness of the state administration of in four wounds on my body. The house Assam. of Shri Paswan was torched at Betur.

Mr. Speaker, Sir, the other issue I agree that violence in whatever is that of Sugar scandal. There was a form it may be is the manifestation of loss of public mOiley to the tune of Rs. an attempt to veil the truth by stopping 10,000 crores due to the procrastinated a debate in a democracy. All the parties decision by the Central Government and should not only condemn this but also its disorderly functioning. The poor people try to check it. We shouid not blame each of the country are very pelplexed due to other and should appreciate the fact that it and have come to know how money emotions of some people are easily and assets are being looted in India in aroused whereas for other it is a the name of public works. weakness. Emotions should not pave way to partisan attitude but should be Due to this Government, the people dealt in a judicious manner. are today faced with the question as to what type of relationship should prevail I request you to kindly admit the between the Ministers and the adjournment motion on Assam. One bureaucrats. The minister issues a hundred people are feared killed there. statement that the decision was taken while he was on tour. Then the Secretary to Government, the officer makes a [Eng/ish] press statement. During all this the P.M.O. maintained silence. Thus it is a serious SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE matter and as a result of all this the (Bolpur): Sir, there are \'ery many innocent people of India are being churned important issues undoubtedly and we under the pressure of inflation. had also given Adjournment Motion on this question of sugar, what you call, The assault on our colleagues calls scandal. But, Sir, what has happened in for a comprehensive debate. Atalji was Assam, yesterday, is extremely shocking saying that he does not want to discuss and is of dangerous proportions; it is an this issue. There are not only these three explosive situation. Our Member, Mr. instances of assault. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I Barman, represents that area-Barpeta; may tell you that I do not want to point he has been there. Mr. Pilot was there: 527 Re : Adjournment Motion JULY 25, 1994 Re : Adjournment Motion 528

I am happy that he had rushed to Kindly treat this matter as of utmost Barpeta. urgency.

Sir, I demand that immediately a [Translation] statement should be made and we can start discussion on that statement. This SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV is not a matter which we should go into (Azamgarh): Mr. Speaker, Sir, a" the by formalities only because in that part three issues are very important but Shri of the country the situation is such that Vajpayee ji has made them three-in-one. people who had taken shelter are being It would be better if we take up each almost butchered and that too with issue separately. Whatever has happened impugnity. Instead of getting relief they at Barpata is a matter of great sorrow have got the bullets and they have been and anxiety for the nation. Nearly, 60- killed. I cannot recall any such situation 70 persons have been killed in a refugee in the past where in a relief camp people camp. Recently, two days back 22 have been killed. People who had gone persons were killed in an incident. Even there for the protection of their lives had then the State Government did not take been killed. There is a Govemment precautionary measures. The Chief there; there are paramilitary forces there; Minister had been visiting the camp for army has been brought in already, but three days but even then he could not in spite of that people have been protect them. Only after the meassacre, massacred like this. This is a matter he asked for the assistance of Army and where we must express our greatest the Central Govemment. Earlier he was concern about it. keeping quiet over this matter. There has been an unanimous demand that Chief Sir, I request the Government to Minister should take moral responsibility make a statement immediately. Let it be for it and resign. Secondly, the at 2 O'clock. And as soon as that Govemment of India should also take the statement is made, let us begin the responsibility of this incident. I am saying discussion on it. We do not mind that. this because these are very sensitive Sir, you can provide a time limit. Let this areas. If we do not take proper care and Parliament show its greatest concem make effective security arrangement, such about the situation that is prevailing there incidents can take dangerous turn and and see what should be done and what that can pose a challenge for our national the Government proposes to do. unity in future. Therefore, I would like to say that this Adjournment motion should So far as other matter is concemed, be taken up. I also strongly support this Adjournment Motion on this sugar question. We also Secondly, our three senior Members wish to raise other important issues. But have been assaulted. I do agree with Shri I earnestly request you to kindly allow a Sharad Yadav that such assaults have discussion on this. I believe the taken place earlier also. These things Government is prepared, from the nodding should be looked into and some decorum of their heads, to make a statement on should be maintained so that democratic this. They are prepared to make a system could woft( smoothly. , condemn statement on this. After that let us start the attacks on Shri Advani, Shri George the discus8ion on this Issue. Fernandes and Shri Kushwaha jl. The 529 Re: Adjournment Motion SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Re: Adjournment Motion 530 attack on Shri George Femandes is of contents of each of these issues, I would different nature. He was going to his suggest that every one of them-these constituency and Parliamentary session three or four issues .which have been was about to commence. Other six raised-must be discussed in the House. Members of Parliament-Shri Abdul You have called a meeting of the Business Ghafoor, Shri Syed Shahabuddin, St.ri Advisory Committee this aftemoon. I Nitish Kumar, Shri Manjay Lal and Shri would suggest that all these issues which Brishin Patel-were accompanying him. have been raised-if any of them is The State Government knew about it permitted by you to be brought by way that....{/nterruptions) It was announced of adjoumment, it is a different matter-but there that Shri George Femandes would they must all be discussed in this House. not be allowed to enter his Constituency. I am saying it as an allegation. The car But I would say that on the opening of Shri George ji was stoned. At that time day of Parliament when we are confronted D.S.P. and S.D.M. were present there with this horrifying massacre which has and anti-social elements continued to taken place in Barpeta, I think that should attack his car. My allegation is that the be given priority. In this case, they have State Chief Minister had gone there two an advantage because the Minister of days ago and he has not made any Intemal Security reached that spot. He security arrangement for Shri George had made a first-hand study, I am sure, Femandes. Under the conspiracy of the of the situation. They can make a Bihar Government, he was attacked. statement here, which they must make. (Interruptions) We have also met the On the basis of that statement, there President in this regard. I would like to say should be a discussion. Otherwise, if this that this incident should be condemned. massacre is not taken up today, we do It is a matter of breach of privilege. not know what is going to happen tomorrow or in the following days. The So far as sugar scandal is reaction in the country will be very bad. concemed, I demand that a judicial inquiry The reaction will be very bad. People will should be conducted into this whole affair. ask; What is the Parliament doing? A The assurance given by the Govemment large-scale massacre takes place like to conduct an inquiry into it, would not this and we do not say anything about create confidence among the people. Big it. Therefore, I think, this should be given scandals are taking place but there is no a priority. accountability, no culprit is arrested and no body is punished. Corruption is rampat. The other issues of physical I, therefore, demand that the presenting assaults on Members, the sugar scandal inquiry should be stopped and a judicial all these issues must be taken up one inquiry should be conducted into this sugar by one in this House. I would request scandal, All the facts should be brought you to please see to it that the busi"ess before the country and the House and the is arranged in such a way through the culprits should be penalised. Business Advisory Committee that in a day or two, we can go through all these items and discussions can be held. {English] (Interruptions)

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA THE MINISTER OF WATER (Mldnapore): Without going into the RESOURCES AND MINISTER OF 531 Re: Adjournment Motion JULY 25, 1994 Re : Adjoumment Motion 532

PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI This partic~ar matter calls for a VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA): We share the dispassionate discussion. A disppssionate anxiety of the Members which they have discussion can take place in the form of expressed on these issues. Without going a discussion. You know, Si(, the into the merits of the question, we will implications of an Adjoumment Motion. discuss the matter in the Business Then, they are sharply divided on party Advisory Committee and decide about lines. In order to have a purposeful and that. But the Govemment is ready to a dispassionate discussion on this serious make a statement on the Assam problem, we should have a discussion massacre. If you permit us, we can make after the statement by the Minister. it right now. I suppose the Minister of Internal Security is ready with the SHRI JASWANT SINGH Statement. Or, it can be made at two (Chittorgarh): entirely agree with the of the Clock and it can be followed by hon. Minister of Parliamentary Affairs a discussion, if you so permit it. I think that there is a special meaning to an it would be in the fitness of things that Adjoumment Motion. Why I pleading for after the statement, a discussion of short an Adjoumment Motion on the question, duration tollows. We can decide at what situation in Assam, is because In an time it can be taken up for discussion. Adjournment Motion, there is an inherent (Interruptions) aspect of censure of the Central Government. {Translation} MR. SPEAKER: Shri Jaswant SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): But Singhji, I am not giving any decision on in view of seriousness of the issue, it this point right now. I will give my should be taken up in Adjoumment decision on this later. But you shall have Motion ... (Interruptions) to convince me as to how it can be taken up as an Adjoumment Motion. I am SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: asking that question. Mr. Speaker, Sir a discussion on Assam is very important and it is also equally SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Indeed. important on as to how the discussion Would you permit me only a minute to is taken up. The Govemment can make convince you? statement during Adjournment Motion also. Please take up the Adjournment SPEAKER: How is the Central Motion and we are pressing for it. Govemmen~ more responsible than the State Government? {English] SHRI JASWANT SINGH: Indeed. MR. SPEAKER: Let me decide the Here is a situation in the State of Assam. issues one atter the other. I am not going Into the aspect that the State of Assam Is governed by the same SHRI VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA: party 8S is governing the Union Various senior hon. Members have Govemment at DeIhl. That Is not the suggested that after the statement of the point. But the point Is that the situation Government, a discussion can follow. I in Assam has not deteriorate only think that is a more sensible thing to do. yesterday. Progresalvely, over the past 533 Re : Adjournment Motion SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Re: Adjournment Motion 534 so many months, the situation in Assam [Translation] is deteriorating. The State Government does nothing; the Central Government If I allow you, then you may speak. does nothing until finally a situation Shri Chandra Jeet Yadav has submitted culminat.es in the massacre. it more precisely.

MR. SPEAKER: I would like to [Englishj know one thing. Can the Central Government interfere in these matters if MR. SPEAKER: This is not good. the State Government is in existence there? There are so many points before me today and I do agree with the hon. SHRI JASWANT SINGH: The failure Members that these are the pOint on of the State Government cannot be an which there should be a discussion in explanation for inaction by the Central one form or the other on the floor of the Government... (Interruptions) House. As to how and when and in what form we can taken up these matters for MR. SPEAKER: Can they do it discussion. We can certainly decide in constitutionally? the Business Advisory Committee in consultation with and with the advice SHRI JASWANT SINGH: My point given here by the hon. Members. I am is this. The failure of the State not saying what I am going to do on the Government cannot be cited as a reason Barpeta issue. But before that I would for inactivity or inaction by the Central like to say that there are other issues Government. Tl)ere is a responsibility, a like floods and so on. I am going to take continuing responsibility that the Union them up afterwards. Please do not feel Government has... (Interruptions) agitated. Now as far as this Barpeta issue is concerned. I have received so MR. SPEAKER: I have understood many notices. It would be necessary to please. find out who can move this Motion and all those things. This is a very important (Interruptions) matter. But whatever we do in the House has to be done in such a fashion that SHRI JASWANT SINGH: We wish it does not create bad precedent for us to highlight the failure of the Central in Mure. This is an important matter and Government... (Interruptions) I think. the Members have one and the same opinion on this matter. I am looking [TranslationJ to this matter not only from the point of view of killings that have taken place over SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Deoria): Mr. there but I attach a greater importance Speaker, Sir it is my motion and I should to what has happened over there. And be allowed to speak. because of that, I am inclined to give the consent to the notice given by the hon. [English} Members to move this Adjournment Motion. I would like to hon. Minister to MR. SPEAKER: I have allowed make a statement. you, then you may speak. Shri Chandra Jeet. (Interruptions) 535 Re : Adjournment Motion JULY 25, 1994 Re : Adjournment Motion 536 SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA unprecedented rains, heavy floods have (Midnapore): That show how the State caused a lot of damage to the standing Govemment is functioning. crops in Kamataka State, particularly in some of the districts like Mangalore, MR. SPEAKER: That would also be Mysore, Chikmagalore and Hassan. taken into consideration while making the Standing crops worth about Rs. 10 to Rs. statement and if the statement is made at 15 crore in each of these districts have the initial stage only, the discussion can been damaged. be very very pOinted. Blot please do not insist on a procedure which can derail our MR. SPEAKER: May I suggest to proceedings in the House. if follows the you that I will ask the hon. Minister to rules, that will help us. If we do not follow collect the information and make a the rules that will not help us. statement? After the statement is made, I will give you and others also an As far as other issues are concemed, opportunity to speak on that. We may have received a letter from Shri discuss it in a proper manner. Vajpayeeji. I have sent that latter to the Home Minister for information on what has SHRIMATI CHANDRA PRABHA happened to the hon. Members. After I URS: Heavy damage and unprecedented receive the information, I will certainly havoc have occurred there resulting in consult the leaders of the parties and then deaths. There are damages to the houses. discuss the matter with them and we will People there say that in the last 35 years find out as to what is to be done, how it is they have not seen such a flood. The to be discussed, what is to be done in this whole lot of standing crops have been matter. We can have a detailed discussion damaged. on that matter. On other issues also, you please study the rules, you study the MR. SPEAKER: I will allow you make Constitution, you study the law and please that statement afterwards. advise me as to what you expect me to do. If it is within the rules, I am ready to do SHRIMATI CHANDRA PRABHA anything you want. If it is not within the URS' Thank you. rules, all of you sitting here should decide SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMY what to do,l will do that. I have no objection. (Coimbatore): (Original Speech in Tamil) But either it should be within the rules or I would like to bring to the notice of this all of you should decide what is to be done august House the sorry plight and the sad on the floor of the House. story of Adivasi Harijan women and the (Interruptions) injustice done to them and the violence let loose on them. This is not an isolated or SHRI E. AHAMED (Manjeri): It is an an ordinary matter but this warrants the Adjoumment Motion or a Call Attention? attention of the Govemment. I would like I have given notice for a Call Attention. to draw your attention to what had happened in a small village Chinnampathi MR. SPEAKER: This will be balloted which comes under Mavittipatti Panchayat and we will find out who can move the in Mudukkarai union nearCoimbatore. The Motion. simple villagers who live in that hill side village live on the spoils of the woods SHRIMATI CHANDRA PRABHA nearby. There had been a gang rape of URS (Mysore): Due to unusual and Harljan and tribal women at knifepoint.. I 537 Papers Laid SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Papers Laid 538 have visited the area and they narrated TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): me the sad incident which has been I beg to lay on the Table a copy each reported in almost all the Newspapers of the following notifications (Hindi and published in Tamil Nadu. I request aU the English versions) under sub-section (3) Members and leaders present in this of section 458 of the Merchant Shipping House including the Leader of the Act, 1958:- Opposition to take up this matter to provide justice to those helpless women. I am not (1) The Merchant Shipping trying to gain political mileage out of this. (Registration of Indian Ships) Since it concerns tne SCs and ST s I would Amendment Rules, 1994 like to request the Union Home Minister published in Notification No. to probe the matter and come out with a G.S.A. 160 in Gazette of India statement on this issue before this House. dated the 2nd April, 1994. Those women should get justice and a judicial probe should be ordered. I request the Centre to initiate action and give (2) The Merchant Shipping adequate protection to Adivasi Harijan (Registration of Indian Fishing women who are treated in an indifferent Boats) Amendment Rules, 1994 fashion by the authorities over there. published in Notification No. G.S.A. 218 in Gazette of India dated the 7th May, 1994. SHRI P. G. NARAYANAN (Gobichettipalayam): The State Govemment is taking proper action. There [Placed in Library. See No. LT -6075194] is nothing to worry about it. The Hon. Membe;, instead of raising this here, ought Memorandum of Understanding bet- to have brought this issue to the notice of ween National Mineral Development the State Government, if there is any lapse. Corporation and Ministry of Steel for the year 1994-95 MR. SPEAKER: I thank you very much. Half an hour is over. Now Papers THE MINISTER OF STATE OF to be Laid on the Table ... (Interruptions) THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): I beg to lay MA. SPEAKER: Tomorrow. on the Table a copy of the Memorandum of Understanding (Hindi and English versions) between the National Mineral Development Corporation Limited and 12.33 hrs. the Ministry of Steel for the year 1994- 95. [English] [Placed in Library. See No. LT -6076194] PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE

Notifications under Merchant Notification under Income Tax Act, and Shipping Act, 1958 1961 Customs Act, 1962

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI M.V. 539 Papers Laid JULY 25, 1994 Papers Laid 540

CHANDRASHEKHARA MURTHY): I beg memorandum regarding to lay on the Table:- revised rates of exchange for conversion of certain (1) A copy each of the following foreign currencies into Notifications (Hindi and English Indian currency or vice- versions) under section 296 of versa for purposes of the Income Tax Act, 1961:- assessment of imports.

(i) The Income-tax (Second (ii) S.O. 336(E) published in Amendment) Rules, 1994 Gazette of India dated the published in Notification 27th April, 1994 together No. S.O. 370(E) in Gazette with an explanatory of India dated the memorandum regarding 12th May. 1994. revised rates of exchange for conversion of certain (ii) The Income-tax (Fourth foreign currencies into Amendment) Rules, 1994 Indian currency or vice- published in Notification versa for purposes of No. S.O. 416(E) in Gazette assessment of exports. of India dated the 30th May. 1994. (iii) S.O. 394(E) published in Gazette of India dated the (iii) The Income-tax (Fifth 27th May. 1994 together Amendment) Rules. 1994 with an explanatory published in Notification memorandum regarding No. S.O. 419(E) in Gazette revised rates of exchange of India dated the for conversion of certain 31st May. 1994. foreign currencies into Indian currency or vice- (iv) The Income-tax (Sixth versa for purposes of Amendment) Rules, 1994 assessmen~ of imports. published in Notification No. S.O. 434(E) in Gazette (iv) S.O. 395(E) published in of India dated the Gazette of India dated the 7th June, 1994. 27th April, 1994 together with an explanatory (Placed in Ubrary. See No. LT-6077/94) memorandum regarding revised rates of exchange for conversion of certain (2) A copy each of the following foreign currencies into Notifications (Hindi and English Indian currency or versions) under section 159 of vice- the Customs Act, 1962:- versa for purposes of assessment of exports.

(i) S.O. 335(E) published in Gazette of India dated the (v) G.S.R.482(E) published in 27th April, 1994 together Gazette of India dated the ",\\'t\ ..." ~'_'~''''''''\Ot'f 1st June. 1994 ~e{ 541 Papers Laid SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Papers Laid 542

with an explanatory Notification when imported memorandum making into India from the whole certain amendments in the of the basic and additional Notification No. 44I91-Cus., duties of Customs leviable dated the 30th May, 1991. thereon.

(vi) G.S.R. 525(E) published [Placed in Ubrary. See No. LT-6078/94] in Gazette of India dated the 22nd June, 1994 Statement showing action taken by together with an the Govemment on various assur- explanatory memorandum ances promises and undertakings regarding exemption to given by Ministers during Eighth, goods specified in the Ninth and Tenth Lok Sabha Table annexed with the Notification when imported into India for carrying out THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE repairs, reconditioning or MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE re-engineering, from the DEVELOPMENT (DEPARTMENT OF whole of the basic and YOUTH AFFAIRS AND SPORTS) AND additional duties of MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY customs leviable thereon. OF PARLIAMEI\ TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI MUKUL WASNIK): I beg to lay on the (vii) G.S.A. 526(E) published Table a copy each of the following in Gazette of India dated statements (Hindi and English versions) the 22nd June, 1994 showing action taken by the Govemment together with an on various assurances, promises and explanatory memorandum undertakings given by the Ministers during regarding exemption to the various sessions of Eighth, Ninth and goods specified in the Tenth Lok Sabha:- Annexure of the

(1 ) Statement No. XXXV - Eleventh Session, 1988 [Placed in Ubrary. See No. LT -6079/94] Eighth (2) Statement No. XXXII - Thirteenth Session, 1989 Lok [Placed in Ubrary. See No. LT-6080194] Sabha

(3) Statement No. XXVI - Fourteenth Session, 1989 [Placed in Ubrary. See No. LT-6081194]

(4) Statement No. XXVIII - Second Session, 1990 [Placed in Ubrary. See No. LT-6082J94] Ninth (5) Statement No. XXV - Third Session, 1990 Lok Sabha [Placed in Ubrary. See No. LT-6083194}

- Sixth Session, 1990 1 (6) Statement No. XXI \~ \n Library. See No. LT-6084I94} I 543 Matters Under JULY 25, 1994 Rule 377 544 (7) Statement No. XXI - Seventh Session, 1991 J [Placed in Library. See No. LT-6085/94)

(8) Statement No. XXI - First Session, 1991 [Placed in Library. See No. LT-6086/94)

(9) Statement No. XVIII - Second Session, 1991 [Placed in Library. See No. LT-6087/94]

(10) Statement No. XVI - Third Session, 1992 [Placed in Library. See No. LT-6088/94]

(11 ) Statement No. XIV - Fourth Session, 1992 [Placed in Library. See No. LT-6089/94) Tenth (12) Statement No. XI - Fifth Session, 1992 Lok [Placed in Library. See No. LT-6090/94] Sabha

(13) Statement No. X - Sixth Session, 1993 [Placed in Library. See No. LT -6091 /94J

(14) Statement No. VI - Seventh Session, 1993 [Placed in Library. See No. LT-6092/94J

(15) Statement No. IV - Eight Session, 1993 [Placed in Library. See No. LT-6093/94J

(16) Statemero l No. III - Ninth Session. 1994 [Placed in Library. See No. LT -6094/94 J j

12.34 hrs. There is an All India Radio Station at Jeypore where one short wave station MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 has been sanctioned at a cost of about Rs. 7 crore during last year. The tribals of this area can understand and speak (i) Need to set up a Tribal Unit in the "Desiya" local language. the All India Radio Station, Jeypore to broadcast In Baster District Agriculture programmes in Desiya language Programme is being broadcast in Chatis Garhi language, but in Jeypore, it is done SHRI K. PF1ADHANI (Nowrangpur): in Oriya which is not followed by most Koraput District of Orissa and Bastar of the tribals. A request has beell made District of Madhya Pradesh are the largest to the Information and Broadcasting tribal districts both in size and population Ministry to start a 'Tribal Unit' here at and are situated adjacent to each other. Jeypore to broadcast not only Agriculture People of this area are the most backward Programme in "DESIYA LANGUAGE" but socially, educationally and economically. also other educational programmes on 545 Matters Under SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Rule 377546 health, education, hygiene, etc. to promote bazar. There is heavy traffic in that bazar their development in a multifarious and the people face a lot of difficulties manner. I urge upon the Central due to the railway crossing. Government to expedite the work early in the matter. Therefore, I would request the hon. Railway Minister to take immediate action (ii) Need to construct a bye-pass of for the construction of a railway overbndge National Highway at Bareilly in across Sarha Thala railway line. Uttar Pradesh (iv) Need to allot more LPG Distributorships in Jalpaiguri, [Translation} West Bengal

SHRI SANTOSH KUMAR [English] GANGWAR (Barelly): Mr. Speaker, Sir, Bareilly is one of the major industrial city SHRI JITENDRA NATH DAS in Uttar Pradesh. It is situated at National (Jalpaiguri): Sir, I like to draw the attention Highway No. 24 between Delhi and of the Government towards a· long- Lucknow. Taking into consideration upon standing demand of the people of different advantages, Bareilly was selected Jalpaiguri. Jalpaiguri is a divisional town to develop as a counter Magnet city but there is only one IOC distributor under National capital region and for that running with nearly 15,000 consumers. purpose a plan was formulated for a About seven thousand applications are systematic development of Bareilly. But pending for LPG connections. The even after a lapse of such a long time, demand of the people there is Increasmg the said plan could not be implemented vertically In these days of fuel Crisis. and that is why no development works are being carried out there in Bareilly. I urge upon the Government to There is an urgent need to construct a provide more LPG distributorship at bye-pass on the national highway and an Jalpaiguri. over-bridge on Choupala railway crossing in Bareilly. Therefore, keeping in view the [English] development and necessities of Bareilly I request the Central Government to SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY make immediate arrangement of (Jagatsinghpur) Sir, I want to make a appropriate funds so that said works statement. You had been kind enough to could be undertaken at priority basis. ask the hon. Minister to p,epare the fact5 (Interruptions) about 'floods'. The country IS in floods Especially in my Constituency. lakhs of (iii) Need to construct Railway people are today sitting on the Overbridge across Sarha Thala embankments and they would not be Railway line in Chhapra, Bihar able to go back to their homes for four months. SHRI LALL BABU RAI (Chhapra): Mr. Speaker, Sir, railway line at Sarha MR. SPEAKER: 'Y ou are going Thala in my constituency Chhapra IS back to the same thing. You can raise situated in the middle of the city and on this tomorrow also. Why do we not start both sides, it has a densely populated the proceeding like this? 547 Matters Under JULY 25, 1994 Rule 377548

SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: Govemment Health Scheme to the city Sir, you may allow a discussion under has caused great inconvenience and rule 193. difficulty to all these employees, particularly to the retired. It is a compelling MR. SPEAKER: I will allow you nece&sity that a CGHS hospital and tomorrow and not today. dispensaries are opened in Chandigarh immediately. To mitigate the difficulties of SHRI LOKANATH CHOUDHURY the eligible people. It will be in the fitness (Jagatsinghpur): Sir, I will say only one of things if they are granted temporary thing. When we discuss the issue of entitlement to be treated at the PGI. Any floods, the Water Pesource Minister delay in the matter will only aggravate should be present. the problems of these senior citizens who have given the best of their lives serving the country. MR. SPEAKER: Shri Lokanathji, please do not do like this. I urge the Government to take immediate action in the matter. MR. LOKANATH CHOUDHURY: Sir, the Minister must reply as to what (vi) Need to introduce a new train preventive measures are being taken by service between Bijnor (U.P.) and the (?ovemment. Delhi.

MR. SPEAKER: This is not correct. [Translation] I said that it wa.o. important and it would be raised tomorrow also. SHRI MANGAL RAM PREMI (Bijnor): Mr. Speaker, Sir, even after so Now, Shri P .K. Bansal. many years of Independence. there is no rail facility from Bijnor to Delhi as a result 12.40 hrs. of which people have to face a lot of difficulties. Only Mussoorie Express train MATIERS UNDER RULE 377 - passes through here which covers only Contd two Assembly Constituency of the district and this train does not touch the rest of the five constituencies. The passengers (v) Need to extend Central who want to come to Delhi, have to go Government Health Scheme to Chandigarh Union Territory for to Moradabad or Nazibabad and that is why they face difficulty in getting seats the benefit of the retired as wen or reservation in the trains. as working Central Government Employees Therefore, I request the Railway Minister that Bombay Express, which [English] runs from Dehradun to Bombay via Luksar, Saharanpur and Delhi, should be SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL diverted from Luksar to Nazibabad, (Ch:!ndigarh): Sir, there are about 20,000 Nagina, Dhampur. Tyohara. Muradabad Central Government employees in and Delhi or a new train should be Chandigarh and a large number of those introduced which should cover all these who are retired. Non-extension of Central stations. All of these stations are 549 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) and Prevention of 550 Techniques (Regulations Misuse) Bill commercial centres of Bijnor district, diagnostic techniques for the therefore, it is necessary to introduce a purpose of detecting genetic or new train service for Delhi which should metabolic disorders or chromosomal cover all these stallons. abnormalities or certain congenital malformations or sex-linked 12.41 hrs. disorders and for the prevention of the misuse of such techniques for ANNOUNCEMENT RE: ADJOURN- the purpose of pre-natal sex MENT MOTION ON ALARMING determination leading to female SITU c\ TION IN ASSAM foeticide; and for matters connected therewith or incidental the.reto, as [English} reported by Joint Committee, be taken into consideration: MR. SPEAKER: Well, after the lunch intelVal, I think, the names of the A Bill to prevent misuse of persons who have given their notices will diagnostic techniques for determination be balioted. The name of the person who of the sex of the foetus, leading to female can move the notice will be pronounced. foeticide. the Pre-Natal Diagnostic And he may move the notice. Then, we Techniques (Regulation and Prevention will take up the discussion at 4.30 p.m. of Misuse) Bill was introduced in this But the procedure which is required to House on 12th September, 1991. allow this motion to come before us will Recently developed scientific be completed after the intelVal. techniques enable pre-natal determination of the sex of the foetus. These techniques, useful in determining genetic disorders 12.42 hrs. and abnormalities of the foetus, are also misused. PRE-NAT AL DIAGNOSTIC From time to time, women's TECHNIQUES (REGULATION AND organisations, sociologists and prominent PREVENTION OF MISUSE) BILL members of the public has been urging the Government to take steps to curb As Reported by Joint Committee . this abuse. Contd. A conference of medical experts, [English] administrators, voluntary organisations and legal experts in 1986, unanimously THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE recommended that pre-natal technique MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY tests should be regUlated and m:suse of WELFARE (SHAI PABAN SINGH test for prediction of sex of foetus should GHATOWAR): Sir, on behalf 01 Shri B. be banned. Shankaranand, I beg to move:' Government of India constituted a -That the Bill to provIde for the Committee under the Chairmanship of regulation of the use of pre-natal the thell Health Secretary. Government

, Moved with the recommendation of the President. 551 Pre-natal Diagnostic JULY 25, 1994 and Prevention of 552 Techniques (Regulations Misuse) Bill [Shri Paban Singh Ghatowar] Sir, the Bill may now be taken up of Maharashtra in 1987 to, inter alia, go for consideration. into the details of a comprehensive legislation. On the draft Bill submitted by MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Motion the Committee, the opinion of the State moved: Government were sought. Most of the State Governments welcomed the "That the Bill to provide for the proposal for enactment of a regulation of the use of pre-natal diagnostic techniques for the comprehensive legislation. purpose of detecting genetic or metabolic disorders or chromosomal Pre-Natal Diagnostic Techniques abnormalities or certain congenital (Regulation and Prevention of Misuse) malformations or sex-linked Bill was introduced in this House with a disorders and for the prevention of view to prohibit pre-natal diagnostic the misuse of such techniques for techniques for determination of sex of the purpose of pre-natal sex the foetus leading to female foeticide. determination leading to female Such abuse of techniques is discriminatory foeticide; and for matters connected against the female sex and affects the therewith or incidental thereto, as cilglnity and status of women. A legislation reported by Joint Committee, be is required to regulate the use of such taken into consideration." techniques and to provide deterrent punishment to stop such inhuman act. DR. R. MALLU (Nagar Kurnool): The i3ill was subsequently referred to a Respected Deputy-Speaker, Sir, thank Joint Committee of Parliament. The Joint you very much for giving me a chance Committee elicited public opinion about to speak on the Pre-natal Diagnostic the Bill and submitted its repor! to the Techniques (Regulation and Prevention Hon'ble Speaker of the Lok Sabha during of Misuse) Bill. Sir, this is a very Important the 1992 Winter Session of the Bill and this issue has very much been Parliament. agitating the women's organisations all over the country and for that matter, all 12.45 hrs. over the world too. This Bill is going to prevent the misuse of pre-natal tests for [MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER in the Chaj~ the purpose of termination of female foetuses. It is a fact that in many of the The amended version of the Bill, metropolitan cities such as Bombay, as reported by the Joint Committee, is Calcutta, Madras, Hyderabad and in many placed on the Table of the House. other important cities also, these pre- natal tests are misused and if the foetus commend the Bill to the hon. is a female, there are many instances Members for consideration and passage where the parents are opting for the with a view to adequately regulating and termination of the pregnancy. That is preventing the misuse of the pre-natal why, a number of voluntary organisations diagnostic techniques and providing all over the country and women's penalties to those who choose to operate organisations in particular, have contrary to the law of the land. I urge demanded that a Bill to protect the the hen. Member to support the Bill. female foetuses be passed. If we do not 553 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) and Prevention of 554 Techniques (Regulations Misuse) Bill take the necessary legislative measures have been developed. But, that is not the to curb this sort of misuse of the pre- only form of gender discrimination. There natal tests, I am afraid there will be an are reports of widespread female imbalance in male female ratio which infanticide in our country, Little girls are create a lot of problems to our nation as deliberately killed after they are bom a whole. That is why, I fully support this There are widespread situations of gender Bill. discrimination in child care. A female child does not get the same me,asure of As pointed out by the hon. Minister, nutrition, the same measure of care or a Joint Committee has already discussed the same measure of food as compared the Bill in detail, point by point When to the male child. Each one of us should this Bill becomes an Act, it is going to look at our own social circumstances, be useful for prohibiting the misuse of pre-natal diagnostic techniques for sex- We know that for some reason or determination of the foetus leading to the other the Indian family prefers the foeticide, i.e. killing the foetus, denying son to the daughter. The Indian family it a chance to be bom. The Bill seeks cares more for the son than for the to prohibit advertisement of pre-natal daughter, particularly in agricultural diagnostic techniques for sex- communilies where perhaps a son is determination of the foetus; to regulate considered to be an asset in terms of the use of pre-natal diagnostic techniques field work. Such altitudes are very for the purpose of detection of specific widespread, This gender discrimination genetic abnormalities or disorders and against the female also expresses itself permitting the use of such techniques in the crime of dowry buming which is only under certain conditions by the perhaps increasing in scale with every registered institutions. The Bill aiso passing year. The point that I am trying provides for punishment for the violation to emphasise, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, of the provisions of the proposed is that female foetiCide is not the only legislation. Under these circumstances. I act of gender discrimination and, strongly support the Bill and I request therefore, this problem must be viewed that all the hon. Members, irrespective in its total social dimension. of the party to which they belong. should support the Bill in the large national My first point is that there has to interest and in view of the representations be programme of social education, given by voluntary and other women's Without social education. without granting organisations of this country. equality of opportunity to the women to develop in all aspects. we cannot possibly SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN enforce any measure against female (Kishanganj): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, foeticide, After all. look at the motherl the Bill before us has a social dimension. The mother IS a woman. Look at the It is a very important Bill. but I am afraid mother-in-law who takes her daughter-in- that the Bill may not make much impact law to the doctor for test. She IS also on the social science. Sir. gender a woman, So, one woman and another discrimination has been in-built in our woman conspire with the doctor to get society for centuries. Today it expresses a woman killed in foetus stage, Isn't it itself in the form of female foeticide ignoble? So, unless social awakening through these diagnostic techniques that takes place merely regulatory measures 555 Pre-natal Diagnostic JULY 25, 1994 and Pf'8vention of 556 Techniques (Regulation) Misuse) 8ill [Shri Syed Shahabuddin] effective as they should be. In my will not do. That is the first point I want opinion, a member of the medical to make and the Bi!I does not make any profession who uses the scientific provision for social education, for publicity techniques for killing should be de-frocked, or for awakening the public conscience. de-robed. To that extent the Bill is incomplete, inadequate. He should be delicensed. He has no business to misuse his skill and Sir, there is no doubt that there has exploit a scientific technique and a been an increasing imbalance between technology for a blatantly anti-social the male and female ratio in our inhuman purpose. Medical science is to population. From census to census, the relieve pain, is to relieve distress, is to Census Superintendents and the census remedy sickness and not to kill people documents have taken note of this fact. and not to take life. Therefore, I feel that Uniformly throughout the country the perhaps the Govemment may consider average number of women per thousand advising that the Medical Councils must of population is less than the number of impose a penalty, the absolute penalty, male per thousand of population. the maximum penalty of delicensing a Naturally, in a logical sense they should member of the medical profession, if he be equal because after all vast numbers is found, by a competent body, a body are involved. Statistically they should be of his peers or by a judicial authority or equal but even if it is 950 or 954 per by the Board as envisaged in the Bill to thousand of male population, obviously have participated wilfully, deliberately in there is something wrong somewhere. an act to killing. Nothing else will do. But what is more frightening is that while Therefore, I would suggest to the hon. this is the national average, disparities Minister that while the entire House are much larger in certain parts of the supports this Bill, the Bill has to have country and again within the same State, more teeth and I would suggest that perhaps in some regions than in the there should be a provision in the Bill that other region. Therefore, it has a a Report on the impact of the Bill must demographic dimension. It has to be be presented to the House at least after related to the rights and customs of three years of its promulgation so that particular groups and sub-groups and the House has a chance to review communities and sub-communities in our whether the Bill has been effective in society and this measure of social curtailing this social malady. education, that I talked about, Mr. Deputy- Speaker, Sir, has to be effectively directed With these few words, Mr. Deputy- at those communities and sub- Speaker, I support the Bill but while communities in which the female-male supporting the Bill I urge upon the ratio is lower than even the national Minister to improve the punitive measures average because that is where the that have been envisaged in this Bill. disease lies, that is where the focus lies. [Translation} Sir, the Select Committee has made many improvements in the Bill. We DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEYA support the Bill but still I find that the (Mandsaur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we punitive measures are perhaps not as are discussing a very important Bill and 557 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) and Prevention of 558 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill certainly there is the need to pass it other laboratory tests to predict the sex of unanimously. foetus, should be specifically entrusted with the responsibility for ensuring that they do In our society women are being not misuse their knowledge of equipments. increasingly subjected to atrocities on various issues from time to time. There It is correct that such things are is every possibility of rise in the atrocities required in medical science so as to against women. With the scientific make the maximum use of the available advancement in prenatal sex diagnostic knowhow, but at the same time, though techniques it has become simple and for checking misuse of these, some easy to detect the sex of child at deterrent provisions have been made in gestation stage. Now this technique is the Bill yet many a thing have not yet being misutilised by the medical been covered in it. Glaring instances of professionals to detect the sex of the misuse of these techniques have come child in the womb so as to coerce the to light and thousands of women have people to go in for medical terminal of been victimised. pregnancy. Women are being subjected to this sort of atrocity and they are being The Select Committee has at length forcibly taken to medical clinics for such discussed. the Bill and after having heard prenatal diagnostics. Though provisions many evidences they have suggested regarding prenatal foetus sex diagnosis that a comprehensive Bill be brought in have been incorporated in this Bill i.e. this regard. I would like to submit that when and under what conditions this type subsequent to this Bill all the units of investigations can be undertaken, yet watching the interests of women or this Bill is not comprehensive despite dealing in the activities pertaining to being useful. There is the need to further women should become more alert. Some add some provisions to the Bill. Though provisions in this Bill should also be it has been provided in the bill as to who made regarding the medical personnel can avail such facility and in what dealing in Bioscopy, Sonography and circumstances, and penal provisions Biopsy. Though some provisions have against misuse of this facility have also already been made yet I do not think been incorporated in the Bill, yet these to be adequate. I feel that there provisions regarding specific punishments is the need for detailed explanatory need to be incorporated. clauses. I am also in favour of making Specific penal provisions need proper use of these scientific know how to be incorporated in the Bill to check and against misuse of these techniques. such atrocities on women. If a clearcut These should be used in positive manner. case is established regarding Medical fratemity should use their talent wilful violation and misuse of the sex to benefit the society and to throw open techniques and especially in the new vistas of welfare, and should not 13 hrs. event of any sex diagnostics definitely get involved in committing undertaken against the wishes of atrocity against the wishes of women. women, then the concerned medical Though efforts have been made to personnel do not deserve to hold any incorporate such provisions in this regard medical post and their registration should yet it lacks many a thing which essentially be cancelled forthwith. All the institutions, require clearcut clarifications. These whether doing Sonography, X-Ray or any should be definitely included in the Bill 559 Pre-natal Diagnostic JULY 25, 1994 and Prevention of 560 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill [Dr. Laxminaryan Pandeya] 14.09 hrs. to enable us to put before the country a useful Bill. Then only a regulatory and The Lok Sabha re-assembled after deterrent Bill can be brought. All provisions Lunch at Nine Minutes past Fourteen should be made to check misuse of the of the Clock. scientific knowhow. It is possible only if clear cut provisions are made in this {MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER in the Chait1 regard. PRE-NATAL DIAGNOSTIC Before passage of Bill by the House TECHNIQUES (REGULATION AND would like to have a categorical PREVENTION OF MISUSE) BILL assurance from the hon. Minister to the - Contd. effect that in future all the lacunae will be somehow removed. He may explain As Reported by Joint Commltt.. - that now he is going to do so, so that Contd. for the welfare of the society the rights of women are safeguarded; social equality DR. VASANT NIWRUTII PAWAR and proter.tion is ensured and we may (Nasik): Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker feel assured that checks are there to Sir, for allowing me to speak on this Pre- stop misuse the Bill in future. In view of Natal Diagnostic Techniques Bill, 1994. the spirit of the Bill it should be definitely passed. However, I would like to urge the hon. Minister to give clarifications on the At the outset I will like to points raised by me to enable unanimous congratulate the Government for bringing smooth passage of the Bill, which has out this legislation and also my been brought from the social point of compliments to aU the women welfare view and for providing social protection organisations for creating a pressure <)n to women. the Government for bringing this legislation.

[English] Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, in Maharashtra there is already a Bill to this MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: There effect and that is why the pre-natal are still some more hon. Members who diagnostic techniques were restricted in want tc participate in this debate. I think Maharashtra. But the people are used to they can do so after the lunch. go out of that State to get this sex detennination test done in the nearby The House stands adjourned to States and that is how the importance meet at 02.05 p.m. of this BUI is thera 80 that it will be effective aU over our country. 13.05 hrs. This Bill provides for the regulation The Lok Sabha then adjourned for of the use of pre-natal diagnostic Lunch till Five Minutes past FourtHn techniques and to detect that genetic and of the Clock the metabolic disordera, the chromosomal abnormalities and certain congenital 561 Pre-natal Diagnostic SAAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) and Prevention of 562 Technique (Regulation Misuse) Bill malformation or sex-linked disorder or hon. Minister, the Government Secretary, haemoglobinopathies. This regulation is two Geneticists and a Gynaecologist and very important because we have to social workers will be there. The most provide diagnostic techniques, which are important part of this Bill is the work of through the amniocentesis, through the the Central Supervisory Board. Their chorionic villi biopsy or the foetoscopy or function is to advise and to review the the ultrasonography. But this was being implementation, to create a public misused. And that is why, to prevent the awareness about the female foeticide in misuse of such techniques for sex the country as well as to maintain the determination, to avoid and to stop the code of conduct for all the clinics and female foeticide, this Bill has been brought the laboratories. in. There is going to be an Appropriate The main object of -this Bill is to Authority appointed by the Central stop the female foeticide as well as to Government in the Union Territories as improve and to maintain the dignity and well as by the State Government in their the status of our Indian women. respective States, which will grant the registration or enquire about the matters Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, this Bill of registration for the Counselling Centres, provides for the regulation and for the Clinics and Laboratories. They will regIStration of all the genetic clinics, all maintain the standards of the Genetic the genetic laboratories as well as the Counselling Centres. Also if there are Genetic Counselling Centres. There are any complaint, they will investigate. And certain conditions for a woman who can there is also an Advisory Committee to undergo this diagnostic technique and help this Appropriate Authority, where they are : she has to be above the age two Gynaecologists and three social of 35 years; there has to be a history workers will be there out of which one of spontaneous abortions or foetal loss has to be from the women organisation. twice or thrice; if there is any exposure That is very important. This will definitely to the drugs or radiation to the chemicals; facilitate the work of the Appropriate and to prevent the mental retardation. Authority. Only then she can be allowed to undergo this pre-natal diagnostic technique in the There is an provision in the Bill for Genetic Counselling Centre or the offences and the penalties. Even if there Laboratory . is an advertisement or even if there is any lacuna in the Genetic Counselling There is a provision that there Centre or the Laboratory, the person is cannot be any compulsion by the husband subjected to the three years' imprisonment on the wife to undergo this technique and and As. 10,000 fine or it can be extended that is very important. A written consent to five years' imprisonment and As. as well as the briefing of a patient by 50,000 fine. the doctor is the most important one and that provision has already been made. If the guilty person is a doctor his name will be debarred from the medical I appreciate the provision made for register for two years. This is what the a Central Supervisory Board, where the Bill has provided for. But even though we 563 Pre-natal Diagnostic Techniques JULY 25, 1994 Announcement Re: S64 (Regulation and Prevention Adjoumment Motion on of Misues) Bill Alarming Situation in Assam [Dr. Vasant Niwrutti PawarJ 14.22 hrs.

are passing this legislation unless and ANNOUNCEMENT RE: until there is public awareness, nothing ADJOURNMENT MOTION ON can be done. The society's preference ALARMING ,SITUATION IN is for a son, which has to be tackled ASSAM - Contd. property. The society must be taught the importance, the dignity of a women or MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: In the of a girl child. Then only this Bill will be morning it has come to our notice that of some use. Otherwise, the people are the names of the Members who gave going to find out a number of lacunae notices of Adjournment Motion are being and they will use Pre-natal Diagnostic balloted. I shall just read the result and Techniques for determination of the then we proceed to the same subject. sex and it will continue for the female foeticide. I have to inform the House that the hon. Speaker has received four notices So, I request the hon. Minister for of Adjournment Motion to discuss the Health to devise a review and the alarming situation in Assam and the monitoring system where every two years failure of the Central Government to we review as to what is happening to this intervene timely from the following Bill and whether the records of the Members:- Genetic Counselling Centres, Genetic Laboratory or Genetic Clinic are being 1. Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee properly maintained and if there is any need for amendments, the hon. Minister should not hesitate to come forward to 2. Shri Chandrajeet Yadav Parliament again. This is a very important Bill. We are all thinking in terms of 3. Shri Mohan Singh maintaining the dignity and the status of women in our country and this Bill 4. Shri Sharad Yadav definitely curtail the female foeticide in our country. There are regular Hon. Speaker has given his consent advertisements that within Rs. 100/- one to Shri Chandrajeet Yadav who has can get amniocentesis. The amniotic secured first place in the ballot to seek Fluid is tested and the sex is being told leave of the House. and if it is a female sex. foeticide is being done. That will be prevented because of this Bill. So. I welcome this Bill and I SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV support all the measures which have (A%amgarh): I seek leave of the House been suggested in this Bill. for moving the Adjoumment Motion to discuss the alarming situation in Assam and the failure of the Central Government Once again. I congratulate the to intervene timely. Government for brining forward this Bill.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Is the leave opposed? 565 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) and Prevention of 566 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill

Nobody is opposing it. Then the of our social prejudice and, therefore, it leave is granted. cannot be done away with simply by making a legislation. I do not agree with Under Rule 62, not less than 2-11 this. However, I do agree that the 2 hours are allotted for its discussion. incidence of female foeticide which is the The motion will be taken up at 16.30 way in which these prenatal diagnostic hours. tests are misused, is a symptom of the real disease. The disease is, infact, the social devaluation of women, and this social devaluation of women is being 14.23 hrs. enhanced today, is being aggravated today because our Government has PRE-NATAL DIAGNOSTIC followed a model of development which TECHNIQUES (REGULATION AND is bound to enhance the marginalisation PREVENTION OF MISUSE) BILL of weaker social groups, like Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes, women and As reported by Joint Committee other weaker sections of society. So, it Contd. is this marginalisation of women and social devaluation of women which is the SHRIMATI MALINI BHATTA- disease; the misuse of pre-natal diagnostic CHARYA (Jadavpur): Sir, I rise to speak tests for female foeticide is merely the on Pre-natal Diagnostic Techniques symptom. (Regulation and Prevention of Misuse) In fact, we do find that in certain Bill. The reason why I rise to speak is cases where there is a traditional society, that I was one of the Member of the Joint when that traditional society breaks up Select Committee which deliberated on and when this traditional society becomes the Bill and I was one of the Members a part of social change and so-called who gave a note of dissent regarding the economic development, then new evils recommendations of the Bill on some are introduced. We find that dowry system specific issues. It is not as if I want to which had not existed before in that oppose the Bill or prevent it from being society because women were workers in passed. I think, something is better than that SOCiety. is now introduced. Dowry nothing and this Bill has long been waited becomes a newly introduced evil in these for and as such I am not opposing the societies and then female foeticide also Bill. But I want to point out some serious comes in the wake of that. But while I loopholes in the Bill which I believe may admit all this. I would think that not detract from its effectiveness. having the legislation would mean that SOCiety sanctions such barbarism and, Some people who have opposed therefore, I think that it is important to the bringing of legislation in this respect have the legislation. The Central have said that just as by passing the Committee which discussed this problem Anti-dowry Act it has not been possible of sex determination also in 1989, for us to contain the evils of the dowry recommended that there should be such system, similar1y it is no use bringing this legislation. and I agree with it. legislation because the incidence of female foeticide, following foetal sexual Banning of these tests is not diagnosis, is something which arises out possible because these tests are only 567 Pre-natal Diagnostic JULY 25, 1994 and Prevention of 568 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill [Shrimati Malini Bhattacharya] being supported by all kinds of specious but sophisticated arguments. The one incidentally to be used for sex argument that is given is that this, kind determination. Their real use is something of sex selection is important for the sake different. They are used for detecting of a balanced family. Now, I think that genetic defects and abnormalities in this notion of a balanced family, having foetuses and for other reasons and, the parents and one male child and one therefore, it is not possible to have these female child is a thoroughly unscientific tests banned altogether. Therefore, it is and illogical proposition. I do not see why necessary not to ban these tests but to a family that has two male child is not regulate and to prevent their misuse. Up considered to be unbalanced and why a to this point I agree with what is given family that has more than one female in this Bill. I think that after the report child is considered to be an unbalanced of the Joint Select Committee, the family. Moreover, even if there is a Govemment has taken a very long time female foetus and if that female foetus to table this Bill. But now that they are is aborted, there is no guarantee that the tabling this Bill, now that it is being next pregnancy will produce a male child discussed in the Parliament, I hope it will inevitably. be taken up with some proposed amendments. As a matter of fact we find that this slogan of a balanced family, which is a I do not want to go into the thoroughly unscientific idea as I have horrendous and sensational stories of the said, is being used in such a manner that massacre of innocents even in the womb the balanced in the male-female ratio of not because they possess any defect but our total population is being jeopardised. simply because they are female. I do not We find that in our population the ratio want to more than merely mention that of female to males is continuously going while 85 percent doctors in our country down. Now it is 927 females to 1,000 are opposed to this kind of pre-natal sex males, I am not saying that this is selection, yet there is a certain small, but because of these female foeticides alone. very strong, lobby within the medical No, not because of that alone but because profession, a very strong vested interest, of the general neglect from which the which not only encourages this practice female baby suffers in our society there but in defiance of the hippocratic oath is great mortality in female babies and even juggle with the test reports and so on. However, if this argument of a persuade clients to abortion hiding the balanced family is projected and if every fact that the foetus is, in fact, not female time a female foetus is detected it is but male. They also promote spurious aborted, then it is likely to increase this methods said to result in the birth of male imbalanced in the male-female ratio in children. Moreover, many of the tests our population. which are used for sex determination can only determination the sex of the foetus The other specious argument that at stage when abortion is extremely is given again is a very modem argument. I. hazardous for the mother. It is said that it is a democratic right ,of parents to choose parenthood. We ~Ik So, all these things are happening; of parenthood by choice these days. The all these things are taking place and we argument relates to family planning and find that these horrendous things are the foeticide of the female chil9. justified 569 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) and Prevention of 570 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill on this ground that this is a part of family considered a failure of the family planning planning. method, that is what I am unable to understand. It is only when the mother It is argued that since abortion as bears a female foetus it is said that the such is legalised why should that right family planning device has, failed. This be restricted in the case of a female is not so if, in case, the foetus is a male foetus just because it is female. It is foetus. And therefore I think that the argued that if this Act is passed then one question of democratic right or of choice of the basic democratic rights of the in parenthood does not arise here at all. parents ~ the right to choose their It cannot be a democratic right to decide children will be impinged upon. Now, as not to have a child simply because it is matter of fact, in the Medical Termination female. It is merely a submission to of Pregnancy Act, 1971, "injury to physical prejudice. and mental health of the mother" is one of the grounds on which medical The third argument that is used is termination of pregnancy is allowed. And that the advance of research in medical this clause "injury to the mental health sphere should not be curtailed. Again, of the mother" is explained and the Sir, I would like to point out that here explanation includes "failure of any device no one is speaking of curtailing research, for the purpose of limiting the number of but only of regulating the purpose for children". In other words. here what is which it is used. And research particularly being said is that if there is a failure of in the medical field is not just for its own family planning devices adopted by the sake. It is meant for the benefit of parents. in that case also the mental mankind and if it goes in the opposite anguish that is caused to the mother may direction, if it takes away the right of the be a ground for medical termination of female child to live, then of course, giving pregnancy. Now it is said that when a an excuse in the name of advancing mother conceives a girl child which she medical research is not enough. had not intended to. then that causes mental anguish and, therefore, female foeticide is justified on that ground. You Therefore, all these arguments are will see that the argument for family based in false logic. Appeals are made planning and the argument for planned to the weakness and the prejudice of parenthood is speciously being used to would-be parents, a certain prejudice promote female foeticide. I would say which is ingrained in society. And, that this is an atrocious prevarification therefore, a Central Act in double and it is a juggling with the real intention necessary. Sir, I will now end by making of the Medical Termination of Pregnancy certain pOints about the amendments Act. Medically, medical termination of which I have to offer to this Bill. pregnancy cannot be considered as a substitute for regular family planning There are two ranges of tests by method. It is only to be used in very which the sex of the foetus may be extreme cases. And when a mother uses identified. Of course, these are certain family planning devices and in • overlapping. There are one set to tests spite of that she becomes pregnant that which are carried out primarily for the may be called a failure of family planning detection of genetiC defects and devices. But if a mother conceives a abnormalities in foetus like amniocentesis, female foetus, why should that be chorion Vitti Biopsy, foetoscopy and others. 571 Pre-natal Diagnostic JULY 25, 1994 and Prevention of 572 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill [Shrimati Malini Bhattacharya} I have suggested that these genetic tests should be confined to the public sector, When these genetic tests are carried out, perhaps with some relaxation for a few the sex of the child also may be detected apex institutions which are run by some incidentally. of the acknowledged genetic specialists. If the private sector is allowed into this, There is a second range of tests in spite of the licensing system, this which may be used for a whole range spilling over of genetic tests in the private of other purposes not only on pregnant sector is likely to create a proliferation women but also on others. Of these of clinics where there would be sub- ultra-sonography is the most well-known standard or spurious tests which are very and the most widespread of these likely to happen. As a matter of fact, the methods and this is sometimes used on Central Committee in its report also said pregnant women to determine the size - although it did not rule out private or position of foetus in pregnant women practitioners from getting approval for and incidentally again, the sex of the genetic centres, laboratories and clinics child can also be detected. - yet they had also in the report said that the Govemment should review this In the course of our discussions in matter five years after the legislation is the Joint Committee, we found out that enacted, to see whether the licensed as yet the number of trained genetic institutions in the private sector deserve specialists in our country is relatively to continue with activities or whether any small. change in policy is necessary in order to The Central Committee report restrict the activities only to the mentions that some specialists have. set- Govemment. up well-equipped genetic clinics but I They are saying that you should believe that these clinics can be counted allow the private sector to set up clinics on one's fingers only. There are very few and then, after five years, if you find that trained geneticists in our country and, the private sector clinics are not keeping particularly courses in genetic sciences up to the standard, in that case, bring are not available in most of the medical it back to the Government sector. I am colleges and institutes so far. Anyway, saying in my amendment that you should these tests are prescribed for pregnant start from the other end; start with the women, only in a specific number of Government sector, start with the public cases. All women do not have to go sector. Then, if you find that more clinics through these tests. It is only a limited are needed, more specialists are needed, number of women With certain specific then, in the next four to fIVe years, give problems who are prescribed these tests such specialist training, open such courses and, therefore, the proliferation of genetic in medical colleges and hospitals and units is neither possible in our country after a number of qualified geneticists nor is it necessary because the genetic have appeared on the scene, then only tests that are required can be held in the you should open it up to the private public sector medical colleges and sector. Why should It be opened up to hospitals and at the most, in some of the the private sector when there are not apex institutions where these small sufficient number of geneticists available? number of specialists have set up the As I said eartler, this Is likely to create equipment. Therefore, in my amendment a proliferation of genetic units and 573 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) and Prevention of 574 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill laboratories which, in spite of being suggested. If these amendments are not spurious and substandard, would try to accepted, I feel that there would be a get the licence from the licensing kind of a compromise by the Government authorities by hook or by crook. We know with the very strong lobby that exists that private sector clinics are doing within the medical profession, people pathological tests. But how many of who are trying to set up these clinics these pathological tests are authentic? everywhere, in every alley and in every We know that we have the Drug by-lane. They are setting up these clinics. Controller's Office. And, yet, spurious There will be no way out. Just by and substandard drugs abound in our licensing them, you cannot prevent them country. So, where the situation is like from doing whatever they want to do. that, it seems to me safer to keep these Therefore, I request the Government tests confined to the public sector with earnestly not to make any compromise some apex institutions also being allowed, on this issue and not to give in to this at least initially. very strong lobby of medical practitioners I am now nearing to the end. This who are only thinking of the profits they is the first amendment that I have can make out of this sex detection and suggested. The other amendment that I female foeMide. have suggested is that the equipments There is another amendment that including the uHra-sonography equipment I have suggested that in the Act, women - which are used for various kinds of also come to be penalised. The pregnant tests not only on pregnant women but woman, the women who has gone through also on others - are to be registered. these tests and foeticide comes to be It would, of course, be impossible and penalised. In fact, we find that in our undesirable to keep it confined to the country most often women have very public sector alone. However, the function little choice as far as their own procreative of the licensing authorities may be life is concerned. simplified by registering. clinics which have such machine, that is, the ultra- More often, they have to yield to sonography machine. Please register such the pressure of their family, the pressure clinics. That is what the licensing authority of society, the pressure of the people should do. around them. Therefore, if women are Now, I come to monitoring what is penalised for undergoing this sex happening in these clinics. Monitoring determination test or for foeticide, that should be done on the basis of the would mean double punishment for them records of these tests conducted on - pressure from their family on the one pregnant women, which these clinics hand and then penalty from the would be required to keep. So, these Government on the other. The very fact clinics will have ultra-sonography that this Bill has to be brought to machines. All these clinics will be Parliament reveals the hideous face of registered and they will have to keep a the prejudice of society acted upon by record of the tests conducted on them. the unbridled greed of some medical Then only the licensing machinery, the practitioners. A girl is condemned as monitoring machinery can be much useless and as s burden even before she simplified and I think It can work much is born and she is got rid of. I, therefore, more effectively. So, this is the other wish the Bill success and because I wish Important amendment that I have the Bill success, I earnestly request the 575 Pre-natal Diagnostic JULY 25, 1994 and Prevention of 576 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill (Shrimati Malini Bhattacharya) certain procedural aspects are mentioned in the medical profession ethically for the Minister to accept the amendment that purpose of detecting certain diseases, I have proposed. these kinds of procedures are misused for the female foeticide activity and in SHRI D. VENKATESHWARA RAO turn people are benefiting themselves (Bapatla): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I rise with a lot of money, by misusing this to support the Bill, that is, the Pre-Natal procedure. Diagnostic Technique (Regulation and Prevention of Misuse) Bill, 1991. The In this Bill so many things have Govemment took a long time to introduce been put like the registration of the this Bill and to make it an enactment. genetic counselling and laboratories and This is basically to stop the female establishment of Central Supervisory foeticide programme that is going on in Board. For violating these conditions the country. As the hon. Members have there are punishments like imprisonment expressed, this is not only because of and fine. Before introducing this kind of the imbalance that is going to take place a Bill. one should take care to see that between male and female ratio but this a wide publicity is given so that people is also much concemed with the dignity around and those who are practising will and respect of the women as a whole. come to know about this. They will take This pre-natal diagnostic techniques, the care of the whole situation and control so-called ultra-sonography, the analysis themselves. As our colleagues were of amniotic fluid, chorionic Villi, blood or suggesting. while registering for this kind any tissue of a pregnant woman is made of facilities, the licencing process should mainly to direct some genetic or metabolic be simplified. The other measure that disorders or chromosomal abnormalities should be taken is to give a wide publicity or congenital anomalies or for this kind of a Bill. haemoglobinopathies or sex-linked diseases. Such kind of diseases, such With these points I support the Bill. kind of abnormalities should be detected from my side and from my party side. by this kind of technique. But it is being_ that has been introduced here. misused to detect the sex during the early pregnancy and, in tum. it is turning DR. K.D. JESWANI (Kheda): I thank out to be used for female foeticide you very much for giving me an activity. opportunrty to share my views on the As the hon. Member was Pre-natal Diagnostic Techniques mentioning. there are arguments or there (Regulation and Prevention of Misuse) is a kind of residence to stop this kind Bill. 1991. Just like the Bill on Organs of enactment from various quarters saying Transplantation. this is also a Bill which that it is like a kind of family planning has been iii-fated. It has been hanging programme or a democratic right for the in both the Houses tor the last three or individual to express his desire to have tour years. In the lok Sabha itself It has a small family or something like that. On been tossing from session to session. the other hand. the arguments are very ba~s and some of these doctors or The Bill was first introduced In the medical professionals are also against Lok Sllbha on 12.9.1991. It was referred this Bill for various reasons. Here when back to a Joint Committee of both the 577 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKAl and Prevention of 578 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill Houses on 16.9.1991. The report was type of population control method is submitted on 16.12.1992. Since then the never employed on the society. This Bill was pending to appear in the Lok went on for almost two decades by which Sabha. Meanwhile we have lost a time it has deeply eroded the actual precious time of about sixteen months for structure and the fabric of the society. this important Bill to be passed by the It has assumed a mammoth shape and Lok Sabha. even the illiterate masses' are in possession of a throug!l knowledge of However, better late than never, I the availability of these techniques, which certainly welcome the provisions of the is the most unfortunate part of the whole Bill except for some of the reservations game. which I have of my own. I have something to say about the slack and sadist attitude Because of this provision there has of the Government to the scientific been rise in the number of sex advancements taking place in the country. determination centres all over India. I The Government is not able to perceive would give you some of the alarming the right perspective of the marching age statistics which are really shocking. 75,000 and the advancement of science. This female foetuses were destroyed in the has happened on more than one occasion country between 1978 and 1982. I am when some of the scientific Bills on the giving you some of the authentic figures. medical subject are brought before the All of them were destroyed using the Parliament. amniocentesis test. According to a study conducted in 1986. 84 percent of the In our country the pre-natal gynaecologists interviewed were found diagnostic techniques have been in vogue using amniocentesis for sex determination for more than tow decades. By now there in Bombay itself. They performed on an are a variety of modalities which are in average 270 sex determination tests per vogue and they are meant for pre-natal month. 2400 sex determination tests diagnostic techniques. Most of these were conducted in Baroda city itself in techniques are used for the sex the year 1987. The population of the city determination and a few are only used is nearly around 14 to 15 lakhs. Sex for the intrauterine status of the foetus. determination clinics in Delhi performed All this has been going on before the an average of 11.100 tests in the year eyes of the administration and the 1988 alone. According to newspaper Government. In fact, when the MTP Act reports. in 1988 the estimated toll of was introduced in 1971 and the embryonic female foetuses in Gujarat, that is my death was legalised, the medical fraternity State. is unfortunately 41.000. Between brought home the techniques of pre-natal 250 and 350 sex determination tests are intrauterine sex determination on the conducted daily in the State of Gujarat. Criminal demands of the society. Of This is the ill effect and a deep rooted course the MTP Act was introduced in effect which is inhumanly characterised the madness to curb the rising population, by the society during the last two decades. but it was an unfortunate after that the administration and the society did not Several sociologists consider female realise the diversion of the method to the foeticide to be a continuation of female crimlnalisation in the form of female infanticide. Scientific development have foeticide. In other parts of the world, in only transferred the elimination of the girl many of the advanced countries, this child from the born to unborn stage. The 579 Pre-natal Diagnostic JULY 25, 1994 and Prevention of 580 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill [Shri K.D. Jeswanil has been introduced for the public awareness against the female foeticide. sex detennination tests are a powerful There is no definite programme which example of what can happen when has been chalked out for the public modem technology colludes with the awareness. Actually, this is the main forces of a traditional society. factor which is necessary to abandon all 14.59 hrs. the misuses of these tests. Rest of the whole Bill is occupied [SHRI SHARAD DIGHE in the Chait1 by the description of different punitive For more "than a decade, activists measures. This is not going to take you of women groups have been demanding in the right direction. A definite programme a national legislation to ban the use of for public awareness needs to be chalked these pernicious tests for sex out which should be taken down to the detennination. Sex selective abortions masses. The Government should are illegal because they violate articles fonnulate a definitive programme and 14 and 15 of the Indian Constitution launch a vigorous drive for the public which forbid discrimination against women. awareness. Too many of punitive II is argued that easy recourse to sex measures would scare the medical and detennination tests will reinforce prejudice para-medical personnel. And ultimately, against female children and further lower they tnight, by and large, abandon to the status of women. To begin with, the take the advantages and advances of the Constitution guarantee equal rights to medical science. The medical personnel men and women. Also it is the might go for a guarded practice as they fundamental duty of men, under article did while the Organ Transplantation Bill 51 (a) of our Constitution, to renounce was in vogue. It will again be futile for the practices derogatory to the dignity of the further progress of the medical science women. This has been the status in the in the country. The Govemment should country so far. In spite of having a full take care of this aspect too. knowledge of the whole gamut, the There is still a lot of scope of Government has not paid any serious escapism and avoidance of the law. For attention to the problem for such a long example, uHrasonography is a wider field period of time. Now if you enact any which contributes a lot for the pre-natal fonnula or rules and regulations, the diagnostic procedures. Since it is a non- people are going to find out sufficient invasive techniques, it is very frequently Icx.pholes which will break the actual used for the diagnostic and prognostic tabric of the law because they have been purposes. Even otherwise, that is the practising it for such a long time ot two reason why I would like the hon. Minister decades. to add a small clause. Clauses 6 (a) and 15.00 hrs. (b) are there. I would request the hon. Without involving the society and Minister to add one more clause, that is, without creating a substantial aw ..reness, 'S(c)': only the enactment ot the law cannot 'hat no person shall conduct or suffice the requirement and it cannot cause to be conducted any control the whole affair. Even in the sonography and report the findings tormat of the present Bill, only one which may hit at the male or sentence in clause 16, sub-sectlon (III), female sex poetttvely or negatively .• 581 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) and Prevention of 582 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill I am a medical man. I know where justify the cause of this Bill. Then and the loopholes are in the medical then alone, the legislation of the offences terminology when somebody can say and the penalties provided in Section 22 that my report is scientific. This is because will have some purpose. With these few the sonography might report in his cautions and suggestions, I would request conclusion of the USG findings as the the hon. Minister to include some of the presence of a ascrotal shadow. points that I have mentioned in my narration. Now it is absolutely a normal finding in the hands of a sonologist which you Thank you Sir for giving me an cannot refute nor can you challenge it opportunity. in the court of law. When we are going to enact this law, we have to take care DR. KARTIKESWAR PATRA of these minute scientific advancements (Balasore): Hon. Chairman Sir, I am very and loopholes in the scientific terminology. much grateful to you for calling me to It is taken as a routine finding by a participate in the debate. I support this sonologist. But ultimately, it will mean the Bill. sex of the foetus. Though I am not a medical man, Under clause 23, you have imposed I had the opportunity to be nominated as rigorous punishment for the women who a member of the joint Committee. Sir, our are defaulters. Now this is quite Committee discussed the Bill threadbare. unconvincing. As eartier mentioned by This Bill was brought before the House some of our hon. Members, I do agree on 12 September 1991 and it was that a majority of womenfolk - about 70 referred to the joint Committee on 16 percent are illiterates and it takes a September 1991 . The Report of the long span of time by which the law of Committee was presented on the land reaches their knowledge. I see 22 December 1992. The Joint Committee a great danger in the provisions of the submitted its report nearty after one year. punitive measures meant for these after very detailed deliberations. Sir, there women. I would request the hon. Minister was an expectation that this type of a to take into consideration this point also. Bill should have come before the House a decade back. But it could not be The Bill has a provision of various brought eartier Now that the Bill is before administrative formalities to govern the the House, I request all the Members to whole aspect of this issue. But these support it because it has been brought provisions should not be left alone on the before the house only after a detailed papers and these should be property and thorough discussion on the pros and administered. cons of the Bill out of 16 Members of The main aspect is that of the the joint Committee, 13 are of the opinion periodical review by the Central that this Bill should be pressed for betting Supervisory Board as has been provided passed in this House. in clauses 7 to 16. I would say particularly Why I am requesting all the hon. the five provisions regarding the functions Members to support this Bill is because of the Board mentioned in clause 16 of the findings of the Joint Committee. should be adhered to property. The joint Committee did not leave any The appropriate authorities should of the points and it did consider aU work efficiently and honestly, which may aspects in great detail. Now three hon. 583 Pre-natal Diagnostic JULY 25, 1994 and Prevention of 584 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill [Dr. Kartikeswar Patra] or a clinic shall be bound by these provisions. The Committee is also of the Members of the joint Committee had opinion that even those who print such given a note of dissent. I would like to an advertisement material should also be make a request to them that they should punished. Accordingly, the Committee \ consider the fact that all the issues had has provided a new sub-Clause 2 to this been discussed in 18 sittings of the joint Clause and Committee feel that instead Committee where all the pros and cons of person employed in a Counselling had been taken into account. That is why Centre, Laboratory or clinic only those they should support the Bill. Vigorous persons who render profeSSional or efforts were made by the joint Committee technical services should come within the through the press and other media to purview of the penal provisions of this elicit public opinion on a large ~!e Bill. The Committee did not even leave throughout the country and I would like the husband who are involved in foeticide. to submit here that the Committee had The Clause provides that the court shall received memoranda from 304 members. presurtte unless the contrary is proved The Joint Committee had also visited that the pregnant women has been some organisations to find out their views compelled by her husband or the relative and also about their style of functioning. to undergo pre-natal diagnostic technique 25 non-official organisations also and such person shall be liable for appeared before the Committee and abetment of offence under Section (3) of gave evidence. On the basis of their Section 23. evidence and suggestions, the Joint Committee took certain decisions. The The Committee has also taken into committee finally brought 48 amendments consideration as to how the Advisory to various clauses of the Bill. Here you Committee will be formed, what will be can find the motto or aim of this Bill the ratio of representation between States which has been clearly mentioned in the and the Centre and how many technical Bill. The aim of the Bill is prevention of persons will be represented in that misuse and regulation of pre-natal advisory committee. All that has been diagnostic techniques. taken into consideration. In the Original Bill wherever there were lacunae, those This diagnostic technique has been have been rectified. I think that the Bill misused throughout the country because in its present form is very useful for the a female child is considered to be a people of our country. After considering burden on the society. That is the thinking the pros and cons of the Bill these of a large number of couples in our amendments were made. These country and that is why we have a large amendments have been properly number of female foeticide. considered by all the Members of the Joint Committee. Out of 16 Members of The main object of the Bill is to the Joint Committee, 13 Members have protect the misuse of pre-natal diagnostic approved the amendments and the Report techniques. Here you will see that the of the Joint Committee has been penalty dause has also been very clearly considered by hon. Health Minister. Since dispelled. The Committee has amended the longstanding expectation of the the sub-Clause to provide that even any Members to bring this Bill before the agent on behalf of the Centre, Laboratory House has been fulfilled, I request all the 585 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3, 1916.(SAKA) and Prevention of 586 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill Members to support this Bill and it should some women had accepted in a magazine be passed by this august House. published about two weeks ago in Selam district that they would rather like to kill [Translation] their daughters. This is the pathetic situation in our barbarous society. There SHRIMATI GIRIJA DEVI (Maharaj are so many reasons i.e. social, economic Ganj): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I rise to support and religious. I do not intend to pass the Pre-natal Diagnostic Technique sarcastic remarks on any particular (Regulation and Prevention of Misuse) religion. I do believe that religion is Bill. If we look into the general outlook nothing but worshipping, the mother land; of our society, it depicts an ironical it is the creation of traditions and cultural situation. There is no country in the world heritage, religion is nothing more than other than ours where women were given that. If it was not so, women would not freedom, responsibility and rights for have been insulted everywhere such a long time. However, it is irrespective of any particular religion. unfortunate that after birth, female infants, young girls and women are exploited a In comparision to the man-woman lot, and their plight goes on from widow- ratio of 1000 : 991 in 1901, the census hood till death. They are deprived of their of 1990 reveals that the difference in the right to live as widows, rather they are ratio has increased to 1000: 910. bumt alive; and all this is being done even in this country itself. At the same Female infanticides have been time, the status of woman is glorified; taking place. The more technical she is symbolised as goddess. II is said development took place, the more cruelty that heaven is found in the lap of mother. has been committed '0 the female infants. There comes a time when we worship Earlier, the underlying factors of female girls and ironically this is the same infanticide in Rajasthan, Tamil Nadu etc. counlry where we are leading in female were social and economic. But today, the foeticide in this century. motives behind them are different. The more development and progress we are The progress of any society is making in the field of science and judged by Ihe freedom given to women technology, the more degraded our and the status they enjoy in the society. attitude is towards women. But not to talk of freedom to women. The reservation proposed to be provided to We developed genetic technology them in order to enable them to play a with a motive to prevent genetic diseases significant role in Panchayat and other and also to detect hereditary or metabolic institutions under 73rd Amendment has deformities or characteristic dissimilarity been restricted to only 33 percent. Our or a few unborn and sex deformities. population is 50 percent against which This technology was development to we have been provided just 33 percent detect whether the mental and physical reservation. for which everybody was development of the unborn child is normal grateful to the Government. So far as or not whether the unborn child is initiatives taken with regard to the handicapped. However, instead of using contribution of women is concerned in it for creative purposes started misusing playing decisive role in the development it to detect the sex of the child; thus of the nation, I would like to submit that leading to the widespread practice of 587 Pre-natal Diagnostic JULY 25, 1994 and Prevention of 588 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill [Shrimati Girija Devil sophisticated genetic technology and conducting genetic tests should be committing foeticide if the unbom child banned. However, the clean and healthy is female. atmosphere of our society demand that not only the present generations but also One of the hon. members from future generations should enjoy the Gujara! was referring just now to the benefits of the advancement made in the survey conducted in 1986. Female field of science and technology so that foeticides in lakhs take place in big cities the coming generations are protected of India like Bombay and Delhi. There are from physical and mental deformities. several other datas which cannot be That is why the existence of clinics collected and included in the statistics. equipped with most sophisticated genetic I would like the discussion to be extended technology is essential. However, it is a little more. This infection has reached only if the restrictions proposed in the Bill even the most backward areas thus are enforced strictly. that the motive of leading to disproportion in the sex ratio. the Bill would be realised. When enquired, it was revealed that people particularly those having adequate Sir. it is said that MRTP Bill is financial resources approached even associated with thiS Bill due to which this distant medical centres to get treatment Bill was passed in 1991. The introduction to thiS effect and get the female foetus of MRTP Bill has always been a matter removed through advanced genetic of obJeclion. If we do not propagate this technology. Bill separately. we would ne .. er be able to achieve our motive. Sir. after a long time this Bill has been passed in Maharashtra, Haryana It had been due to the excesses and Rajasthan. The Central Government committed to women that they conceived also propose to pass it now In 1994 after on the other hand there had been women a long wait since 1991 However, realising who gave birth to many children or that It IS better late than never I would disabled children due to Inadequate gap like to express my gratitude for Introducing between thelf deliveries. In both these the Bill, I also support il. We will have cases either It was the unmarried girl or to make provIsions against the social. the mothers of many children who had economiC and religious factors underlying to suffer phySical torture If MRTP Act the Wide spread practice of female is mcluded mto the Bill. we wOuld not be foeticide. we will have to propagate the able to achieve our motive. matter. Keeping in view the Importance We do agree to whatever prOVIsions given to it m the Bill, it is the Joint have been made in thiS Bill. However, responsibility of all of us to make all out it appears to me that when thiS law IS efforts and provide our co-operation in implemented people would find out other the prevention of thiS evil. Unless we alternatives. Therefore we would have to take the initiative to this effect the wide be cautious and take stringent measures spread practice of female foeticide would for the implementation of the Bill, only not be checked and our hard labour then we would achieve the targets. dunng the last several years would go SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD waste. SINGH (Jahanabad). Mr. Chairman, Sir, Many hon. Members are of the I thank you for giVing me time to speak opinion that the cliniCS having on this Bill. 589 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) and Prevention of 590 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill The Pre-natal L)lagnostic newly born children are found perfectly Techniques (Regulation and Prevention normal. That is why, the Central of Misuse) Bill, 1991, dates back to 1991 Government should consider their plight but we are discussing it in 1994. It took and make a prOVision for them so that a long time to introduce this Bill and it they could earn a decent livelihood. Our has been returned by the Select colleague has just mentioned that Committee. I support this Bill in its sophisticated techniques are being entirety. resorted to by people to ascertain the sex of the foetus. This is mainly being The first and the foremost point is, done by the middle class and the upper that the women have been at the top in class. The people belonging to the lower our country. GOddess Saraswati class are unable to avail such facilities. symbolises education, Goddess Lakshmi Such facilities are only meant for those symbolises wealth and goddess Durga who have wealth and who are well- and goddess Kali symbolise annibilators settled in life. Only those people resort of enemies and fighting battles to such killings. Such techniques are to respectively. But in the feudal system, be resorted to. to find out whether the the place of women was relegated to a unborn child is healthy or not or whether baCkward place and many restrictions he has developed some disability or were imposed on them an<:! their tights whether the foetus is developing well etc. were being infringed. This Bill makes one but it is being resorted to, for exactly realize that the standard of maternity opposite reasons. These techniques are facilities tias really gone down. Even used to ascertain the sex of the foetus today in 80 percent villages deliveries of and if it is a female then it is killed. ThiS childr9n are not done by doctors or Technique is being resorted to every now nurses. The midwives deliver the children and then. The reasons behind it are not in villages. If you compare the data of financial ones but because it is in vogue. such delivery cases with those done in The status of a female child is lower than hospitals you will find that the number that of a male child and it gets proved of mortality rate of mother and child is when the male child is kept and the more in hospital than in villages. But female one is killed. The evil of dowry even now, be it the State Government can also be a factor. The practice of or the Central Government, nobody has dowry is more prevalent in the lower given any attention to those women who middle class and the upper class. Most do not have proper rnaternity facilities of the people resort to these techniques and nor has any arrangement been to find out the sex of the unborn child made for them. I am telling you about and if it is a female ~hild, they get it killed Bihar, women were imparted such training to save themselves from giving dowry. but inspite of giving such training, no We must do someltling to do away with financial arrangement was made for them such evil practices in society. The doW'Y and they are still working in villages. I system is also responsible to a larger would like to make a submission to the extent for the lower status of women. Central Government that these women The attention of the Government will are in no way less than doctors and have to be drawn to this fact also that trained nurses. They are efficiently doing those anti-social works should not be their work and the number of mortality undertaken which are against humanity. rate of mothef- child is also less. The The Govemment must consider this aspect. 591 Pre-natal Diagnostic JULY 25; 1994 and Prevention of 592 Techniques (Regulation MisUS6) Bill [Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh) SHRI DAU DAYAL JOSHI (Kota): Mr. Chairman, Sir, it is the misfortune of It is correct that you have made my country that though Indian Saints had provision for punishment also bol there highlighted the importance of woman bU1 may still be women who are ignorant of during the intervening period her status such provisions and who get pressurised in society took a nose-dive. How had it by their husbands in doing so. They are happened? W~y were they treated with not to be blamed for this. Sol we ask disrespect in this period? Our Rishis had you that why is it so that they will be maintained that- punished without any fault. The women who already have one or two female "YaIr. naryastu poojyante, ramante tatra devta." children fall low in the eyes of their husband. This practice of female I am of the opinion that this decHne infanticide is not prevalent in the lower in the status of women was probably due class. We have seen that the lower class to their being treated as an object of families do not kill their female children sexual pleasure during the period when even if the number of their female we were enslaved and perpetration of children is more than two whereas the excesses on them during Moghul period. upper class families get the unbom female child killed. The society is riddled After the Moghul period Sritish with such proclivities. If you do not dictators also viewed women in the same properly implement this recently enacted manner. I remember this period of history. law then its purpose wiD get defeated. . We had a great strength of character in On many an occasion laws have been Shivaji, when Marathas brought a 16 enacted with a view to curb child labour, year old girl alongwith the loot and bol you have not been able to do that. offered Shivaji to make her his queen, There is a provision for punishment in Shivaji was overwhelmed by her innocent that but the law was not properly beauty and wished that her mother had implemented. I wonder how will this law the same kind of beauty because, as he be implemented because the women are said, that the girl was like his mother. getting their foetuses aborted after getting He ordered the Marathas to safely drop ascertained the sex of the child. I want the girl at her place. to know as to how this law can be Sir, a different kind of example is impJe"mented? that of Allouddin Khllji who had come to I would be honest in saying that the conquer Chlttore. When he heard about Members of all the parties have supported the beauty of Padminl he became this law that shows that it is a good law obsessed with the idea of possessing her bol it should be implemented also. It has and forgot all about the battle. Sol when been done to cure diseases, j( should not he could not get her, he longed to have prove to be 'a malady itseH. It shOuld be at least a glance of her beauty. When resorted to, to detect certain deformities he saw her reftection In the mirror he only and not for termination of pregnancy. became more obsessed and started the Because as a result thereof, the women battle. Sol Padminl alongwith other 14 are dying or they are becoming w~k and thousand queens immolated herself. I falling prey to dise8S8$. The girls also get would like to mention that there has adversely affected by such tendencies in never been a single incident In Indian the society. With these words, I c:onctude. .,. culture of showing disrespect to women. 593 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) and Prevention of 594 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill If at all anybody has insulted The Government proposes to provide 30 women, it was in Mughal period. The percent reservation of seats for women Woman has been insuHed by today's under electoral reforms, but this Bill has modemism. This Bin has been introduced already been passed in Rajasthan two here late. The date furnished by Shri years back. Similar1y the Government JeswaniF are shocking. The date show proposes to introduce one more Bill the number of female children being which envisages the disqualification of killed. Shrimati Girija ji has also mentioned the membership of the legislative that the number 'of males is increasing Assembly and Par1iament in case of as compared to females. It is a matter those members having more than two of concern that today there are 1000 children. But in Rajasthan such Bill has men against every 910 women. been passed one and a half years back in which it has been provided that a The hon. Minister has been person having more than two chiidren will postponing this Bill for a long time. But not be able to contest the elections of now I would like to thank him that municipalities and Gram Panchayats and ultimately he has introduced this BHI in similar1y the membership of Member the House. having more than two children during their Tenure as members will also been This Bill is very good but even now lose their membership. Thus, Rajasthan there are many draw backs in it. It needs is much advance9 in this respect. to be reviewed. For example, a provision has been made for imposing a fine -of Lastly, I would like to mention only Rs. 10.000 against a doctor whereas the this much regarding this Bill that although fees of the test if Rs. 10,000. However, the introduction of the Bill has been there is also a provision for 3 years delayed yet it is better late than never imprisonment in this regard. I request and I hope it will do good for the country that in order to make this law more and ultimately will help in improving the stringent. The amount of the fine should alarming situation in respect of the ever be raised and the period of the falling number of women in the society. imprisonment should also increased to 5 It requires to adopt more sensitive attitude years. Moreover the people should not to the women. With these words I be deprived of the other benefits of conclude. ultrasonography. DR. GIRIJA VYAS (Udaipur): Mr. Advertisements have also been Chairman, Sir, through you, first of aU I banned. Through this Bill Private clinics would like to congraulate the Ministry and should also be baJ:lned. Certain essential Shri Dau Dayal Joshi as well. It is better tests should be allowed in the Government late than never. We should have hospitals and medical colleges. Such introduced this Bill much ear1ier. I was tests should also be allowed in good enroute to Parliament and as soon-as the private hospitals as Escort and others. driver tumed the radio on, the song Similarly the Committee appointed for 'madad mangti hai yah Radha lei beti, this purpose has visited many Status in Yashoda ki beti aur jubeda ki bali' was India and submitted its recommendations. being aired on it. It made me to think My submission is that all those that these 'daughters' existed in the past recommendations Should be implemented. and today those girls. are seeking help Rajasthan is very advanced in this regard. who are often killed before taking birth. S95 Pr&-natal DIIIgnostic JULY 25, 1994 IIIId Pnwenlion of 596 Techniques (ReguIafJon Misuse) Bill [Dr. GIrija Vyas] certain definitions. I am thankful to those who have· tried to distinguish between I met two or three hon. Lady Members genetic council centre, genetic clinic and before coming here. They tokl me that genetic laboratory. In chapter three, lit situation has worsened to such an extent has been stated clearly as to under what that a woman can get rid of her female circumstances and regarding what child in the womb in any smaH clinic after diseases these tests can be carried out. paying a paltry amount of Rs. 50 only. The Sixth part of the fourth column of I do not support fully what Shri Oau chapter three reads: Oayal Joshi tokl just now. It is stated in 'Upanishads' that 'Yatra naryastu {English} pujayante tatra ramante devata'. But I would like to remind you that this is a ·any other abnormalities or diseases country where Sita was banished and as may be specified by the Central stigmatized. It is a country where Ahilya Supervising Board.· was forced to be metamosphosed into a rock. [Translation} Our country is called the country of Panchalika and Draupadi was forced Here I would like to submit that to denude. Our society is not changing there will be sufficient scope for misusing according to times but the condition of the word 'any othe(. I do not want that women as well as children has been this be made more specific. Ctause-Sixth worsening with the passage of time. The says that no sex-determinatlon will be region in Rajasthan from which I hail has allowed in a genetic council centre, genetic been famous for many women of repute. Laboratory or a genetic clinic. It has been If in the history of Mewar the names of given the legal forcQ. Whenever the issue women like Meera, Durgawati, Padmini of formulating law regarding women is and Kamavati who have shown their proposed, we are a bit scared. This skills, are excluded then nothing is left country has formulated a number of in the history. There has been the region laws. I would like to congratulate the hon. in Rajasthan where female children were Prime Minister who has provided 33 killed under the cot soon after their birth. percent reservation to the women in the The female chIdren were killed because political field. Prior to this law there had the parents wanted to avoid the sufferings been many other laws for social, cultural, they had to go through during searching political and economic upllftment of for a suitable bridegroom and managing women. But laws are not implemented huge dowry. I, therefore, understand properly. The women folk fear whether their pain and I halt from the area where this law wII be successfuly Implemented the RUpmatI Inddent took place some or not. years ago. Taking this Into consideration eome women organiIatIonI raised their There are three factors required for voicea against It and I would like to thank the proper Implementation of a law. First, the Gcwemment of Rajasthan which had the law should be 8t("IgeIIt, HCOndIy, the tIIIcen InIItetIves In this regard Md held admInIItratIon IhouId be Itrict and thinly • up • 1M BII WIll puaed by the the pd:IpaIIon of people In implementing c... I coneIder thII BII Important the law. It hal II)8CIIIcIIIy been mentiOItId ___ for 1M .... time It .. eIuckI.,.d In II tMt no Idnd of ... for leX- 597 Pre-natal Diagnostic SAAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) and Prevention of 598 Techniques (Regulation MIsuse) Bill determination will be allowed. Besides, Sajjan Singh practised something different. law enforcing provisions have also been The junior rular of Salumbar got the trees made that anybody found guilty of violating cut. He was summoned by the Maharaja the law will be prosecuted. In order to in this connection. When he met the implement a stringent law a sensitive and Maharaja he found that from toe to head strict administration is also essential. In the Maharaja was covered with bandages. this regard I would like to suggest that When he asked the Maharaja, "what in consultation with the State Government happened" he was told that there was the Central Govemment should set up a nothing special but Maharaja was feeling cell where the women can lodge their hurt due to the felling of trees by him. complaints. Since the time I have I want that the administration should also assumed the office of the chairperson of develop such sensitiveness. Therefore, women congress I have found that .... such a cell should be set up where they may be able to appeal. SHAI HAAI KISHOAE SINGH (Sheohiir): From that very period atrocities The third thing is the participation on women have increased and its reason of people in this drive. Unless awareness is best known to her alone. is created among women and women organisations come forward. nothing "1\ • DR. GIAIJA VYAS : I have substantial will be achieved. I remember endeavoured to make the society aware the saying of Tulsidas ·dhol. ganwar, of those atrocities. I am happy that you shudra. pashu aur nan". He further added have become sensitive to those atrocities Una mohe nari na rupah". I, totally opposed and started raising voice against them. the view expressed in the first line of On this occasion I remember a complet: Tulsidas here. But I fuDy agree with the second line. H is really a fact that a "Abhi tewar Kahan badIe hai inke woman is an enemy of woman. Even today you will find that the person who Abhi apna daur inkaIab ka hai takes a woman to a clinic is none but

Abhi tapish Mi. abhi sahra hal a woman of close relation like her mother- in-law, sister-in-law or a sister. But I am Abhi daur kahan guIab guIabi lIB'. sure that the time when women start realizing that the female foetus belongs We are now in the course of to their own species then only this evil revolution. I want to suggest this because practice wiI corne to a stop. I. therefore, after the cell is set up, women can appeal to all of you to help the appeal there as I am still not very sure Government in creating awareness among about the setting up of such a cell. I, women. I would like to submit to the therefore. urge the Government to review Government also that merely the it and try to make the law more stringent. formulation of a stringent law wiD not serve the purpose. The strict The sensitiveness in the administration and the ~ of administration is also a must. I would like Government and the people is also to give an example from my region. needed in this respect. Mewar. Under the law nobody could cut a tree but the felling of trees continued. SHAI HARCHAND SINGH (Aopar): On seeing this. a gentleman, named The population has grown too much. 599 Pre-natal Diagnostic JULY 25, 1994 and Prevention of 600 Technique (Regulation Misuse) Bil/ [Translation] that if she gives birth, God knows in which form she will serve the humanity. DR. GIRIJA VYAS: Have you ever thought about the population which has There is one more thing that women increased enormously? Just now Girija are guided by their husband or relatives Devi Ji had stated that the male female and in that case the law will have to be ratio has come down to 1000 : 910 stem enough. Last year's data show that children. I point out one thing that in 1100 women died during sex tests. You future 50 percent people will have to know that if any lady has to carry out remain unmarried like me. abortion two or three times in a year, it would certainly deteriorate her health. Sir, as far as the question of stem Alongwith this abominable custom there laws are concemed, I am thankful to the are many other custom also which have Ministry, since it has made an effort in attached to it. These will be automatically this regard but by providing merely 5 to stopped after the passing of this Bill. 50 thousand rupees, it will not serve the Dowry is a major fashion these days. If purpose. Such a person should be sent a female child takes birth and she gets to jail in any case. The duration of all the rights of an individual, she will imprisonment can be increased to several herself fight against dowry but an years in that case. Besides it, the awareness should be brought therefor. registration of institutions will be cancelled. Such sort of awareness should brought I think that both these things should be that the female child who takes birth will adopted simultaneously. As I have said neither give or take dowry in future. This "Nari Na Mohe Navi Ka Roopa", So when bill should not remain on papers only. It we are heading towards 21 st century we should be passed in each State. I think must get rid of such psychology. I have that after implementation the Union said one more thing that the women Govemment will take action on it. belong to one caste but they are opposing the other caste but such a tendency will Sir, I am coming to the last point be an end to this gender. In that case that the registered doctors do not have the woman, who thinks in terms of killing recognised sex centres and the Ministry her before her birth, should be punished. has some doubts in this regard, therefore, I have seen at various places, where sex something should be done in this direction. tests were carried out before enacting This Bill was the demand of the time but this law, that it has taken two shapes. it has been brought very late even then On one hand become a fashion and on I come to the point t~t this Bill will the other hand it has become a custom. maintain the dignity of the women and As fashion some educated women claim it will generate the feeling of individuality that they have carried out the sex test among them and the female child which and they will not give birth to a female was killed earlier, will be given birth to child and as a custom they go with their knock the doors of the 21st century. With mother, mother-in-law and the sister-in- these words, I support the Bill. law for the sex test and get from the female foetus before it takes birth. It she 16.00 hrs. is a partner in killing the female child then she should also be kept in jail. As I have SHRIMATI SUMITRA MAHAJAN said that before birth of child she prays (Indore): Mr. Chairman, Sir. I rise to 601 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) and Prevention of 602 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill support the Bill, brought here today. But 16.03 hrs. during the discussion which is going on here, we should not treat women as [SHRIMATI SANTOSH CHOWOHARY in the different from ourselves and a commodity. Chairj Many examples have been cited here and sometimes it was treated as a visited s(;veral places and held Goddess and sometimes she was threated discussions .with many people and many as a slave but that woman has been social institutions and thereafter submitted repeating from time immemorial that she the report of this committee. It is also should neither be treated as Goddess or a fact that merely enacting the law will a slave, but she should be considered not bear any fruits. When the process as a human being. Both the man and of enacting the law goes on, it is the gift the woman have some right and duties. of the human brain that it starts finding She is not altogether a different thing but out the loopholes of the law and renders a part of this society. Today, when this the law totally ineffective. Bill is going to take the shape of a law, I would like to submit that the process Madam Chairman, while we were of social justice is taking place here and discussing about it in Bombay, a famous we are going to provide social justice. It gynaecologist, who runs a major genetic was necessary for several years. Today, centre informed us that the law should I think that while we are heading towards be enacted but banning the test will not 21st Century, why such psychology has serve any purpose. The tests are carried generated? Why the practice of foeticide out for one reason or the other such as is increasing? The incidents like Jalgaon to check the abnormaiity in the child, the case and the rape incident of Madhya heridity diseases and the side effects of Pradesh in which it was said that the a medicine on the woman etc. but it is compensation was given twice and difficult to say that these tests will not happening and we opposed these but be carried out to know the sex of the even then such things are going on. foetus. Medical science is so much Such trend is developing among the advance today that in foreign countries people that they are saying that it should researches are being done to determine not be discussed now. The dignity of the sex of the foetus through a blood test woman is being degraded in one way or only. For this purpose there is no need the other in Jalgaon Incident. My to all to approach a genetiC centre. It submission IS that why such incidents are may take 10-20 years when such facility happening? Why the dignity of man is will reach in our country but it is possible. not being degraded. All this was Therefore, it is necessary to curb such happening ir: your city and you could not tendency the foeticide should be protect them. Somewhere you considered as murder. Just now an are responsible for it. Why not example has been cited that after each the man in that city are feeling ashamed 1000 males, there are only 900 or 950 off. Why such tendency towards females. My submission is that we should women in the society is growing? take it as the killing of a person and we Before bringing this Bill, a discussion are closing the doors of the world for the was held here and a com- child. This right has not been given to mittee was formed I was a us by anyone but we are enjoying it, member of that committee and we had. openly and in this way we are heading 603 Pre-natal Diagnostic • JULY 25,1994 and Prevention of 604 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill [Shrimati Sumitra Mahajanj Today, when we have made this law, the provision regarding punishment towards satanism. We should consider it contained therein are in the right direction. in this perspective. Therefore, from the While talking to social institutions on the point of social justice, this Bill is important question of awarding punishment, it and there is a need of social awareness. becomes clear that in case a person Therefore, this committee has envisaged instigates a woman for committing a a Central Supervisory Board, which will crime, the needle of suspicion, first of aJi not only give timely advice but it will also points towards the husband. Therefore, prepare schemes to launch social before awarding punishment to anyone, awareness campaigns. we will have to think of her husband that if he has a hand in instigating his wife When this law was enacted in to go for abortion. It is only at the end some other States also, and we observed that we should think of the woman the situation there, we came to know that because no woman would like to commit this law was enacted in Maharashtra such a crime. If there is a tumour in our some 3-4 years back, the people as well body, we have to undergo a lot of pain as the social organisations are aware while taking it out. But it is a question there, but even after 4-5 years not a of a living being. Therefore, no woman single case has been proved and not a or mother would like to part with a living single person was punished under this being from her body. It may never law. happen. In this connection, I talked to the women in many social institutions, where This is the position in regard to many men were also present. All were implementation of this law. That is why, of a unanimous view that while making I had said in the beginning that once a a provision in regard to award of Bill becomes l.aw, the people start finding punishment, no woman should be loopholes in it. The second hitch is that punished and it should be thought only the Chairman or Chief of the AdviSOry at the end because there may be one Board of the State is a Government or two percent women who can go to officer 8I')d he doos not have time for such ar. extent. However, I would say calling the meeting of the Advisory Board. that as per our social misconceit, it is WtTetfthe problems Hke foeticide comes generally seen that even in an educated before him, he does not have time to get family a pressure is put on the woman them investigated property. Even after from the very day of conception that the enactment of a law, the system remains male child should take birth in their ineffective. Therefore, even if we make house. Everybody would expect a provision for rigorous punishment, none grandson or son but I have never heard will be able to get punishment. It was anyone to say that a female child should also suggested that there is no necessity take birth. Though. many homes need a to constitute an Advisory Board and girt. yet nobody likes to happen this. make a Government official its Chairman, I would say that if we would amend the I mean to say that from the very first day. a severe mental pressure is put provision that instead of a Govemment on the woman. It is my view that if a offICial, a member of any social institution woman wants that she would not go for or any social worker or a doctor becomes a second or third female child. such a the Chairman of this Board then it can woman should also not be given function with its full strength. punishment. 605 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) and Prevention of 606 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill It is seen that such cases are not wisdom and culture of a mankind. Today, reported in big genetic centres. There are the need is to think over it in the right several research centre.s where I got an perspective so that socially, we may get opportunity to visit. I was told whenever better result in future. If we could a case is referred to their centre and a implement this law property, it would be test is carried out to find out the helpful in building a better society. abnorma~ties, they never tell about the sex of the foetus. It is even not mentioned Madam Chairman, I know that it is in the case file. They showed us many not possible that if this law is enacted case files also. I also got an opportunity today, such type of centres will be closed to visit Bombay Hospital. There, we were tomorrow or the cases of foeticide will also shown several case files. They also stop. But it would help in creating a told me that though they can immediately mental awareness among people and the detect the sex yet they do not record it society will prepare itself to desist from in the case file. These type of cases are such acts. Those people, who indulge in generally reported from the small genetic such acts will be overawed by the fear centres located in the lanes of a city. and they will be constrained to think over Aecently, we talked about imposing it once again. If the Bill leaves this much restrictions on such advertisement of impact in the minds of the people, I because only the doctors having their would think that we have moved a little clinics in the lanes of a city are responsible forward toward our goal. for this act. The proposal moved by Dauji in regard to impnsonment is a good step Madam Chairman, as has been because a fine of Rs. 10,000 is just equal said just how that there is a fear among to nothing. If a culprit even after paying the men about giving 33 percent a fine of As. 10,000 is lawfully let off, reservation to the women. They think this step is also good because again he that if this proposal is implemented, there become free to earn As. 50,000 by will be women at every level. However, adopting the same method. Therefore, it should not happen. I have myself there must be a provision for imprisonment observed that when we talk about giving for a period of one or two months or 33 percent reservation to women in the otherwise. Simultaneously, it should also House, we discuss this issue reluctantly be provided therein to cancel the and think that the women will dominate registration of such clinics. the men and they will be seen at every To me, this Bill appears to be a position. I am not talking of an individual. good one because this Bill has been I am talking of the whole society. That brought before the House for discussion is why, I have said that women too are after a number of days of submission of a part of the society. Women should also the Committee's Report. Now, it will get the rights which are being enjoyed become a law but it would effective only by the men. In other words, the woman when it is understood in the right should be viewed equal to men. perspective. The scientific researches carried out in our country can on the one welcome this Bill from the core hand, be utilized property and on the of my heart. other hand, it can be used for making lethal weapons. Now the question is how SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES can it be utilized? It all depends on the (Muzatfarpur): Madam, Chairman, I do 607 Pre-natal Diagnostic JULY 25, 1994 and Prevention of 608 Techniques (Regulation Misuse) Bill IShri George Fernanades) has a contribution in it. We have been seeing that the increase in population not know how far this Bill will help in from village to district level, from district resolving this problem. However, I agree to state level, from state to national level that ultimately it is a question of psyche. and from nation to world level is almost There has not been any dearth of laws in equal proportion. We have started in our country regarding protection of different methods to do away with this women but we have not been able to law of nature but how will this Bill be able make a law which could change the to counter this? psyche of a man. Some Members have apprehended that how far it would create I have got a report of 1991 census a new awareness but there are other with me. Commenting on sex-ratio, the Member who are hopeful of good result. report submitted by the Census In continuation of this chain of opinion, Commissioner says: I would also like to express my views. Madam Chairman, though the {English] process of changing the psyche of mankind have been going on for a long "The reason for the general disparity time yet instead of achieving success, we in the sex ratio and the declining are retrogressing. The dowry deaths are trend over the years need further not declining. Rather, their numbers are examination, Studies made so far increasing. On the other hand, the cases have offered several explanations of rape and atrocities on women are also for this phenomenon in the past. on the rise. Even the birth 01 a girl child Some of them are preference for in a family has become a curse. We do male children resulting in neglect of not see any change in the psyche of female babies." mankind. There are many evidences of such acts. Though as per the official {Translation] data, the rate of literacy among women is increasing every decade, yet the factual The Government will come out with position remains blochanged. If there has a legislation to check the Ca5GS of been rise in the literacy rate of women, foeticide but the document to the the rate of literacy among men has also Government of India says that in a quest increased proportionately. Now, the for a male child, female chlld is treated difference remains the same. Therefore, so badly that she dies before attaining we should find out the reply of t!1e basic the age of even five years. question on which we are deliberating upon in this House. I agree that it is not [English] only an outrage which a woman has to free but she is a victim of other "The relative gap in the health oppressions also. In a way, it is an conditions between males and oppression on the whole society because females and certain types of when the mankind tries to do away the moralities which are sex selective, law of nature the injustice is not only the adverse sex ratio is also done to the women but ItNt whole society. due to lower expectation of lite at The nature has build the society. Neither birth for females in the past any big political leader nor a great man comP\lred to males. P.ut of which 609 Pre-natal Diagnostic SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Adjournment Motion Re.· 610 Techniques (Regulation and Alarming Situation in Assam Prevention of Misuse) Bill

is due to high maternal mortality. census, Kerala is the only state where It is, however, difficult to pinpOint the population of women exceeds men. any particular reason for the There is 1040:1042 ratio between men declining sex ratio which requires and women. The chain of decrease a derailed analysis." started after independence. The figure indicate that no check is being exercised (Translation] on this downward trend. Rather the This report was submitted four situation has deteriorated. Therefore, in years back but then no analysis has this regard. I would only like to say that been done. Has any study been the advice of inquiry given by the Census undertaken by the Government to find Commission to the Govemment should out the reasons or has any institution be accepted. The Government should do taken steps in the direction of finding any away this kind of oppression being meted solution? One horrible thing which comes out to women in this country and initiate to my notice from the census report is special efforts from its side. that the process of decrease in the With these words. I support this population of women started after Bill. independence. If the Government has gone into It then I would like to ask the 16.29 hrs. Government to especially ascertain the circumstances due to which downward ADJOURNMENT MOTION RE: trend in the population of women in ALARMING SITUATION IN comparison to men started after ASSAM independence. The data of nine decades [English] i.e. from 1901 to 1991 are in this Census Report, 1991. According to them in June SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV 1901, the states were not in its present (Azamgarh): 1 beg to move: form whereas the districts and villages were there. However, taking into account "That the House do now adjourn." the present position of a state alongwith (Translation] its districts and villages, the Census Commission has submitted the figures Madam. Chairperson. through this from 1901 census onwards. According to Adjournment Motion I would like to draw the figures, in 1901 the population of the attention of the House towards the women was more in nine provinces. sad incident of Barapeta district of Assam. Similarly, the population of women in which took place two days earlier. It is 1911 was more in 10 states: in 1921, a matter of great concern for the whole 11 states and in 1931, 9 states. Further, country. I would like to say that it is a in the pre-independence census in 1941, serious matter and should be taken the population of wo~en was more in 9 seoousl'i b'J the House. states. The coun\ry became independent in 1947. Again, a census was conducted. Madam. the border areas of our In 1951, the population of women was country are inhabitated mostly by tTibals more in nine states. In 1961, the figures or such people live. who lead a very hard came down to 8 states; in 1971, 3 states Ine in hilly areas and forests. They had and in 1981, 2 states. As per 1991 been deprived of all the facilities meant 611 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 612

[Shri Chandra Jeet Yadav) of meetings with the State Government as well as with leaders for common citizen of the country for the of All Bodo Students Union (ABSU) centuries. In many areas, they have only and Bodo People's Action grass and plant leaves to eat. They have Committee (BPAC). The State no arrangement for education and health. Government has also sepa -ately They have been alienated from the held discussions with the Bodo national mainstream because of some leaders. As a result it has been special circumstances in the country. It considered necessary to set up an was really unfortunate that less attention administrative authority within the was paid towards them during the State of Assam under s scheme, Britishers period. Only working for the details of which are outlined in Missionaries and voluntary organisations the succeeding paragraphs." paid attention towards them. I am very sorry to say that the tribals livil'g in border areas of the country, who are [Translation] called Scheduled Tribes are still leading a very hard life even after 46-47 years Go'/ernment of India is involved in of our Indep€ndence. The nation has not it since very beginning. Shri Rajesh Pilot paid the required attention towards them. was directly involved in the settlement That is why the people of the area took made with the Defence Council of to arms to express their revolt. The Bodoland. Government of India had issued Government did not pay any attention to some guidelines for it. If you will study them until they followed the path of it, you will find that it says: violence.

Today, we are discussing the [English] Bodoland problem. An accord was signed on this problem in the presence of Shri "The finances for the BAC will be Ra)esh Pilot and the Chief Minister of the earmarked under a separate sub- State. The accord clear1y mentions several head within the State Budget in pOints. In the morning Hon'ble Speaker keeping with the guidelines it laid asked Shri Jaswant Singh- How down by the Government of India Government of India involved in this from time to time." matter? I would like to say that its Preamble clearly says that: [Translation] [English] The Government of India was "Both the Government of India and involved in this matter and was a party the Government of Assam have in it since the beginning. According to the been making earnest efforts to Act that involvement is still there. bring about an amicable solution to Guidelines for them to be issued from the problems of the Bodos and time to time, financial resources are to other plain tribals living in the north be made available and their problems are bank of river, Brahmaputra, within to be solved through discussion with Assam. Towards this end, the them. Four major inddents have taken Government of India held a series place since last October in which hundreds 613 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 614 of people have been killed. Properly incident, with his Cabinet collegues? I worth crores was damaged. People of would like to say that Assam Government the area have a feeling of insecurity. is mainly responsible for these killings. Except the Bodos, all other people It cannot escape its responsibility. whether they are Muslims, Nepalis, Bangalis and people belonging to any [English} o,!,er community, all have a feeling of insecUrity. Now their own lives, property SHRI INDER JIT (Darjeeling): and future of their children is not safe Initialy, there was a major demand that there. a statement should be made by the hon. Minister. I think, it would be a good idea Madam, two major incidents took if the hon. Minister tells us what exactly place during the last month in which 17 has happened and the discussion could persons were killed. People, living in this then be on the basis of authentic facts. camp told that 200 persons were killed (Interruptions) before this very incident and large number of people are still miSSing. No one knows as to whether they are living or not. No [Translation] one knows about the whereabouts of these persons? I do not know how these SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: incidents become so grave? Earlier, the Yes, you are saying the correct thing. Chief Minister visited the site of incidents Adjoumment Motion is being debated in with his Cabinet colleagues and said that the House.... (Interruptions).... The 200 persons were killed and hundred Minister cannot make a statement in the others are missing. The Chief Minister middle of the discussion .... and the State machinery made (Interruptions) .... arrangements for their own security but common man is insecure there. There is [English] not a single incident in which refugee camps were given full protection by THE MINISTER OF STATE OF providing electricity for the whole night or THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI by providing policemen with AK47 for SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): What is the protection of public. As per my line of your Adjournment Motion, you information, 15 children, 20 women, some kindly tell us. Is the Adjournment Motion old persons and patients died in the of the Bodo situation or against the accident. I know that Shri Rajesh Pilot, Government of Assam or against the Shri P.M. Sayeed, Shri Bommai and Central Government? If you kindly read three Ministers visited the place. People out the wording of the Adjournment ot-the refugee camp and some policemen Motion, it will be to our benefit. present there, told that they met the (Interruptions) Chief Minister and several other Ministers to tell them that they had received information of attack and thus they need [Translation] protection. But no action was taken, no additional police force was sent for. No SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: help was sought from the BSF and army Please listen to my speech, You will personnel living in the area. Then why come to know about the fact ... the Chief MInister visited the place of (Interruptions) 615 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 616

{English] leaders into confidence in finding a solution to the problem, they have been divided and the Central Govemment and the SHRI LAL K. ADVANI (Gandhi State Chief Minister are using them to Nagar): Madam, the Adjournment Motion realise own selfish motives. Efforts were has been admitted by the Chair, it would made to make use of Bodo leaders for be in the specific form and it would be their own political gains. They are trying proper for the House to know the wording to get political mileage out of this problem. of the Adjournment Motion because so It is really sad to say that, to derive a far as we are concerned, so far as my political mileage out of the problems of Leader Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee is this backward area, this problem has concemed, we have given an Adjournment been made further complicated. Motion because we thought that the Goverrvnent of India had a duty to Sir, it was also provided in the act intervene in the situation and it had failed that Bodo predominated areas would be to intervene. Therefore. we had moved identified and forest land would also be an Adjournment Motion here ..... taken into conSideration. Forests and (Interruptions) Environment department was asked to assist in identifying such areas. But what SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: has happened? I would like to know from The Govemment of India has a duty. The Shri Pilotji whether it is not a fact that Government of India has a continuous this problem has been created because duty. .... (Interruptions) of the fact that 100 Villages predominantly inhabitated by Bodo people have not been included in recently constituted SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DeV: In Bodo land. Is it not a fact that 10 krns. all probability it should be read out. We long strip along Bhutan border has not must know what is that we are discussing. been included in BodoIand whereas Bodo (Interruptions) people constitute majority in that area. In this way their integrity and patriotism is (Translation] being suspected and they are made to feel that because they are living near Bhutan border, they are not included in SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV: the Bodo-land. It is also a reason of their Mr. Chairman, Sir. the accord, which was resentment. Is there any provision in the signed there, has completely proved to Act for providing security to non-party be a failure. Many things have been said people? Are these your security about the accord. Many statements were arrangements that hundreds of persons made by the State Chief Minister and the are being killed there and thousands of Union Home Ministry that atter persistent people are living in refugee camps. I efforts and several talks, a solution has accuse the State Chief Minister for this been found to the problem. But during situation. last nine months four major incidents have taken place in which hundreds of Mr. Chainnan. Sir. the Chief Minister people have lost their lives and thousands of Assam was my good friend there was of people have become homeless. a time when he was very famous as a Disturbance, in the area has rather youth leader but some times power and increased. Instead of taking all Bodo wealth intoxicate 8 person to the extent 617 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 618 that he forgets all principles. That brings Being a Minister you have not done your about a complete change in his character duty. I have read in the Newspapers that and working style and some times he it was admitted by Shri Rajesh Pilot that work in such a manner, to get cheap the steps which should have been taken, popularity, which shakes the very have not so far been taken by the foundation and pose great threat to the Government of Assam. The Assam national unity also. To get merely a Government have failed in its cheap popularity, the Chief Minister has constitutional obligations. I do not say released those persons who were involved that it should be dismissed but what I in murder cases. It was said that he was would like to say is that during the time very generous and wanted to bring them of 5-6 months which you will gain, you to the mainstream. Not only this but I should think about all aspects of the think they were rewarded by giving Maruti problem and the reasons for which this cars and wine contracts. It is a general accord could not be implemented properly. feeling in that area that good citizens You should find out its drawbacks so that who were with the country during the recurrence of such incidents could be time of crisis and who were working to averted. Four big incidents have occurred restore peace there, have been sidelined. there and a large number of killings have It is a very dangerous thing. Shri Chalihaji. taken place in refugee camps during last you please tell us as to what is the two weeks. These incidents have occurred situation there and whether normalcy has under the nose of Assam Government been restored or whether people are where the entire State Council of Minister happy there? Is it not the fact that the was present. That is why I would like to prevailing situation has posed threat to say that the State Government and State our national security? One year back, Assembly should be suspended and the Army officers had wamed the Chief Government should hold talks with other Minister that the things were not going parties also. All the parties in the State smoothly and there were certain people have demanded that. since the State who were acquiring arms and some of Government failed in its duty. actIon our intelligence persons were also involved should be taken against it. in it and they should be asked to stop such things. I think LB. and RAW are would like to demand that financing two different groups as they immediate security arrangement should done in case of LTIE or Bhindrawala to be made for non-Bodo villages in that create rift among the groups to weaken region. The police or the army should be their morale. It is a national problem and deployed in every village. The need of it cannot be solved like this. Such the hour is that the Government should problems can be solved with wisdom and take full responsibility of protecting the by creating a congenial atmosphere. I lives and properties of non-Bodo people. think such abominable and vile strategies I have not read any thing in the adopted for political gains ultimately prove newspapers about compensation, to be disasterious. The same thing is therefore, I would like to say that at least happening in that area also. The Rs. two lakhs should be given immediately identification work has not yet been to the next of kin of each deceased completed. Why talks were not held with person. And other needful steps should other groups active in that area. What also be taken for them because like steps have been taken to provide security Kashmiri people, they have also become to the minorities? It was your re·sponsibility.· refugees. They do not have tents, food 619 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 620

[Shri Chandra Jeet Yadav] of the situation on the report given by a senior Member of Parliament? The and other means of livelihood. There is hon. Member had also a talk with the no arrangement of education for their Minister. Even after such a serious children. Therefore, you should evaluation of the situation, the State immediately provide security arrangement Government remains inactive and no and other means of livelihood to them. effective steps were taken on the report. It was also stated by the hon. Member The Central Government should that: chalk out a time bound programme to identify the actual areas of Bodoland. {English] What will be done to a non-bodo village which is surrounded by bodo villages? "As you know, not a single Bodo There are such villages which have been has been killed or even injured. included for the purpose of contiguity The violence was wholly one-sided which has also given rise to the and unspeakably brutal. I am resentment. You have to think about it authoritatively informed that it was also. organized by the ABSU, a fraction of the Bodo Movement which is I would like to cite an example of &;aid to be financed by some Central the activeness of the Government. Our agencies. Indeed, the BSF is also colleagues Shri Shahabuddinji went there said to have received at one stage on 9th July, 1994 on an invitation from the support in money and material the local people. He has witnessed the from the Central agencies." situation with his own eyes. He could not have a talk with the Chief Minister of the 16.54 hrs. Stale. The Chief Minister asked him to talk to his Minister. He met the Minister [MR. DePUTY SPEAKER in the Chait1 and immediately after that he wrote a letter on 9th July in which he has stated that: [ Translation]

(English] I would like to know whether the State Chief Minister has contacted you after "There was failure of intelligence receiving the report that such serious when the massacre tool< place allegations have been levelled and earlier - he was referring to the whether he has taken any steps to earlier massacre and not this establish the truth? Had he contacted present massacre-but now there is you, I am sure, you would have definitely not only an administrarive failure contacted the hon. Member to know the but a collapse of the political will reasons for making such serious to protect the life and property of allegations. I was tok:! by Shri Shahabuddin the non-Bodos.· that he had also endorsed a copy of the said letter to you. Was It not your duty [Translation) to contact him on Telephone to ascertain the facts and to know about his Was it not enough for the Chief authoritative sources for making such Minister to take notice of the seriousness serious allegations. But you did not do 621 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 622 that. No action was taken by the aggravate, no feul may be added to the Government. Therefore, I would like to fire and the innocent people may not say that the Central Government should become victims of violence, the hon. take such things seriously. The Parliament Home Minister should at least give a is taking it seriously and discussing it categorical assurance to the House. under Adjournment motion. Such problems are above all interests. Many With these words, I think the such problems have cropped up in Adjournment motion moved by me, would different parts of the country and our be taken by the House seriously. With enemies are looking for an opportunity these words I conclude. to take advantage from such problems. All of you know why they are dOing so? Therefore, I would like to say that it [English] should be taken up seriously and an acceptable solution should be. found to MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Motion this problem. moved:

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, through "That the House do now Adjourn". this House I would like to request you that a goodwill delegation of Parliament SHRI INDER JIT (Da~eeling): Mr. should be sent there so that our people Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to oppose the living thousands of miles away from here Adjournment Motion. may also realise that some one is there to share their sorrows and sufferings. Therefore, I request that this thing should However, I welcome this opportunity be brought in the notice of the hon. which is provided to discuss the Speaker that a Parliamentary delegation happenings in the North-East and, more be sent there. That would convince the particularly, in Barpeta. What has people and it would prove to be useful happened must not only sadden also. Therefore, the Government must do everybody but should make us al\ hang it. our heads in shame that in a refugee camp, young and old people and women and children were slaughtered in a totally Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we have barbaric manner. Nevertheless, I do wish friendly relations with Bhutan and we that prior to this discussion, we should have common border with it. There is no have had an opportunity to hear the hon. doubt in the minds of the people. The Minister. That would have enabled us to basic thing is the confidence among the discuss the happenings in Sarpeta in people and I think we must send our their proper perspective. At the moment, condol~nces to the breaved families. The we seem to be discussing the whole persons, who have been killed, were affair in the light of newspaper reports, innocent, while they were asleeping they and in a certain vacuum. were attacked upon all of a sudden. The Central Government should giv.e assurance that a complete security, be My friend, Shri Chandra Jeet Yadav It by police or army, would be provided has made grave allegations. He has to the people. Therefore, I think that with demanded the suspension of the a view that the problem may not further Ass.embly. 623 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 624

[Shri Inder Jitl on one point. They do not want another Tripura to be repeated ever. They want 17.00 hrs. their survival. They want their identify. They want their lands to be protected. He has demanded the dismissal of This is something which we are ndt able the Government and has many more to understand. unfair and extreme suggestions. I am afraid, this is one of those typical cases Only recently, the North-East Chief where we speak from hind wisdom and Minister met here. The Chief Minister of swing from one extreme to the other Mizoram and the Chief Minister of extreme. What has happened is surely, Nagaland, opposed the lifting of the inner as I said earlier, something most line permit. Why? Because, the Chief distressing. But, Sir, it should also give Minister of Mizoram went on record to us an opportunity to direct our attention say: ·You lift the inner permit and we to what is happening in the North·East. shall be swamped as the tribals of It has been my privilege to visit the Tripura were swamped." Is this what is North·East fairiy regularly and repeatedly going to happen? The basic psyche must since 1966. This year itself I have visited be understood. Guwahati thrice and also some of the What has happened in Barpeta North-Eastern States in the past few deserves to be condemned in the weeks. I have been conscious of what strongest language. But we must also has been happening for a long time. In direct our attention to the basic issues fact, what has happened in Barpeta is and not merely what has happened in something which one could perhaps have this particular instance. I go along with anticipated. Alas, What is happening in my friend Shri Chandrajeet Yadav that the North-East is not getting the required every effort must be made to provide attention of this House. relief and succour and see what has happened. However I accuse my friend As I have said, the massacre of the Shri Chandrajeat Yadav of speaking from refugee is something to be totally hind sight. Is it or is it not a fact that condemned. But the question is: What is the Chief Minister of Assam carried his happening in the North-East? We are own Cabinet to this particular place, talking in terms of Bodos and Non- Barpeta? Bodos. I would like the Minister to tell the House who are these Non-Bodos. They stayed there night and day Are these Non-Bodas not mainly migrants and what did they do? The whole exercise from across the border from was to provide relief--and to provide Bangaladesh? Are these Non-Bodos not adequate protection. What is being said the people who have been trying to is that only eight or ten twelve policemen encroach on the tribal lands? Are these were provided for protecting this particular so-called Non-Bodos not trying to repeat refugee camp. I checked with some Tripura? police persons. Nonnally, you never have more than ten or twelve people protecting What happened to Tripura? I want a refugee camp. What has happened is this House to understand one basic unfortunate. Perhaps, one can say there point. I want this House to take notice has been some lapse. This might have 01 one basic fact in regard to the North- been anticipated. But this is a Idnd of East. The North-Eut is very very sensitive thing which hal been happening 625 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) AJannbgSituatJon in Assam 626

repeatedly and this House is not taking today is to beg of this House to look the notice of it. more important, the more basic issue facing area. Earlier today, my attention was drawn to one other tragedy. I was The basic problem, the basic reminded of what happened in Tripura in malady in the area is the malady of 1980-about the famous, rather infamous illegal, continuing infiltration from Mandai massacre. Bangladesh. This is not being tackled at all. We keep talking about ethnic disputes, SHRI JASWANT SINGH we keep talking of tribals and non-tribals. (Chittorgarh): It happened on 6th June, But the basic problem is one of illegal 1981. immigration from Bangladesh. This moming, I took the liberty of ringing up SHRI INDER JIT: ! stand corrected. some friends in Guwahati, people in It took place on 6th June, 1981. What higher authority, people whose honesty has happened? There, the tribals reacted I would not question. They warned that to the fact :hat they were being pushed similar problem were likely to come up back and further back into the hiils. Their in several other districts. The districts lands were being encroached upon and mentioned, apart from Barpeta, were nothing was done about it. Ultimately, it Goalp~ua, Dhubri, Bongoigaon, Mangaldoi led to a dispute. The whole thing and Kokrajhar. Yes, we have already had conflagrated. What was the result? the problem in some. But there will be Several scores of tribal villages were more problems unless we face this basic torched. The tribals then came down and issue. hit back and we had a massacre in which both sides lost lots and lots of people I was in NagaJand recently. Whether both old and young women and children. it is Meghalya, Nagaland or any of the North-Eastem States, the basic issue is Therefore, the question is: What do that the people, the tribals have a certain we do? Here it is very well for us to say sense of apprehension, a great fear that 'sack the Government'. I do not think that they would be swamped. As I said that is the remedy. The Government was earlier, they do not want their States to there at Barpeta. The Government sought become another Tripura. They say: to do whatever was possible in the "Tripura? Never, never, neverl· This is circumstances. The Govemment has now something to be understood. Therefore, asked for the aid of the military authorities. I would say that it is a good idea to send a goodwill delegation. In fact, more than a goodwill delegation, an all-party They have done this. In so far as par1iamentary delegation because this is the Centre is concemed, the Centre too a national issue. rushed the Minister for Intemal Security Mr. Pilot accompanied by Shri P.M. Sayeed and Shri Gogoi. The Centre has SHRI JASWANT SINGH: To do not been lagging behind. The Centre has what? extended every possible help in the matter. And I think. this help should go SHRI INOER JIT: To look into what a long way in tackling the problem that exactly has happened and to go Into the has come up. But my purpose in speaking deeper problems of the area. 627 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 628

[Shri Inder Jitl and another and between the tribals and the non-tribals in the hope of creating a My friend Shri Jaswant Singh and major problem in the Siliguri Corridor. If I spoke earlier of Mandai massacre on they succeed in the Siliguri Corridor, as June 6, 1981. At that stage, the then they have succeeded in some other Prime Minister sent a group of senior places, we must understand and Congress people, headed by Shri Dinesh remember that this will mean that the Singh. This particular group also included entire North-East will be cut off. There some independent individuals. They went will be no land link left with the North- along and studied the whole problem-the East. We would have to fly across. There law and order problem, the political will be no trains and you will have to fly problem and the social problem-and all your stuff from across this part of the they came up with certain country to the North-East. This could recommendations. become a problem. And I feel this issue must be addressed as a national issue. What were the main Unfortunately, there is too much of pOlitics recommendations? The basic in all this. recommendation was the problem of encroachment of tribal land by the non- I say this as one who has been tribals mainly from across the border going to that area regular1y and repeatedly must be tackled. This was the basic as a journalist since 1966. There is too issue. Even where the Government much of politics-vote-bank politics and intervened, what happened. In paper, the nonvote-bank politics- and all kinds of land was handed back to the tribals. But, things. Therefore, I would urge the in reality, they never get it back with the Minister, and I would suggest to the result that over the last four decades, Speaker through the Deputy Speaker their suspicions, their fears have been that there is need to look into this deeper fed continuosly. Something, therefore problem, the basic problem of continuing needs to be done in this particular infiltration of Bangladeshis from across direction. the border. We must seriously think in terms of identifying Indians and giving During one of my recent visits, I them identity cards. We must seriously was also told of the kind of problems that do this. This is not being done. We are are coming up. My friend Shri Chandra not even identifying the illegal migrants. Jeet Yadav talked about the failure of I personally think that what is needed to intelligence. Yes, there has perhaps been be done is to apply the Foreigners Act a failure of intelligence. But the problem very firmly, very sternly; identify those is that we are not able to get the kind who are Indians and those who are non- of intelligence which we want. The lSI, Indians. If we can do that, we would have unfortunately, is infinitely more successful. solved half the problem. A point to which my attention was drawn recently during one of my visits was the Likewise the other thing is, I would problem to which this House has never appeal to the Minister that what we need directed its attention. That is a problem very urgently to do is to seal our borders which is sure to come up later as the with Bangladesh. We tried in the past to problem of the Siliguri Corridor. Here, we do this but Bangladesh protested. I do see the 151 planning all kinds of things, not think we should ever care for this all kinds of troubles, trying to promote kind of a protest. The problem of Punjab a conflagration between one community continued dangerously 50 long as we 629 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 630 were not able to seal the border. Once psyche. We have a basic problem in we effectively sealed the border, we were Barpeta. It must be looked at. But more able to tackle the law and order problem than that, the basic issue of the tribal and and also the political problem on our side the non-tribal and their basic psyche has of the border. Therefore I would say that to be addressed. We are not addressing we need to seal our borders with the psyche. Bangladesh ignoring whatever protests Bangladeshis might make. I just cannot You go to Meghalaya. As I said, understand Bangladesh protesting in the in Meghalaya many walls have it written past against our sealing the border. Of at the moment: "we are Khasis by blood, course, we must seal our border. We Indians by accident". It reflects a fear. must protect our border. We must protect I talked to some of the students involved. our security. These students made it clear to us that if the centre can protect their tribal In fact not long ago we had a very identity and if it can protect their tribal senior witness in the Standing interests, they would have no quarrel Parliamentary Committee on the External with India. They are Indians unlike many Affairs. I asked him one question; What people in Nagaland whose view is some is your perception of the India's security what different. concerns? His answer was very very interesting. I should not disclose the In Nagaland we haVe a problem. identity of this individual who is one of The NSCN is there. The Khaplang group our top people. What was his concern? and the Isac Sue and the Muivah group. He said his concern mainly was of All these groups are creating problems. continuing illegal infiltration by foreigners But the people of Nagaland, too, speak from across all the borders. He said this with one voice. What do they want? They was something which the Parliament of want their tribal identity protected. They India needed to take a good close look want their tribal land protected. They at. Therefore we must seal the border. want to survive. So long as we are not We must go in for foolproof identity cards able to deal with the basic psyche, we irrespective of the cost. Above all, the will never be able to deal with the basic problem of the tribals and the non-tribals issue that confronts us. Our security in must be considered. I would appeal to the northeast will continue to be the Minister, and as a party colleague, threatened. urge him through you that we must ensure that there is no repetition of Tripura. I will not take any more time of this House. I have made my points. My basic Earlier today a friend from the appeal, once again, is: please let us look South asked: what is the problem? I said at their psyche. This psyche must be tackled, if we the North-East to continue the problem was very simple. This friend to be a part 0\ our country, 0\ our 9rea\ comes trom Pondicherry. So I asked him land. what is the population ot your place? He said nine to ten lakhs. I asked; ·Suppose some 15 lakh outsiders were to came in SHRI SRlKANT JENA (Cuttack): and settle down in Pondicherry, how Please make one pOint clear. Are the would you like it?" He said he would people who got killed by the militants never never accept it. This is the basic Indians or not? 631 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation In Assam 832

SHRI INDER JIT: Sir, a question SHRI INDER JIT: May I be ~s been put to me. I will merely say permitted to clarify? I said in the beginning that I would like to get the light on this that what has happened must hang our particular matter from the Minister. But heads in shame. (Interruptions) as I said the basic issue is not one of Bodos and non-Bodos. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI SHRI SRIKANT JENA: Are the SANTOSH MOHAN DEY): Sir, I am from non-Bodos totally Bangladeshi people or North-eastem area. Therefore, I shaD Indian people? make an appeal to this august House. While discussing the North-eastem issues, SHRI INDER JIT: Most of them, we should not create any problem. We according to my understanding, are should try to solve it. From that angle, migrants from across the border. all Members should speak. The main (Inteffuptions) There is a problem. And problem of Assam or North-eastem State the problem can be tackled by identifying is not infiltration. The main problem II Indians and identifying the foreigners. that people go to Assam either in this (Inteffuptions) season or in that season. They become experts. (Interruptions) They corne and live. (Interruptions) We shall appeal to SHRI KIRIP CHALIHA (Guwahati): this House, irrespective of religion, this Mr. Inder Jit, I will just appeal to you. is an issue about which everybody is very We are discus&i"y a very sensitive matter. much worried. Some people have died. People have been killed. You cannot just term some people as foreigners or non- foreigners. Please have respect for the We want to solve it. Let us have people who have died. They were all a discussion with a dispassionate mind. Indian people. (Interruptions) Let us solve it. How it can be solved wiI come out during the discussion. Let us MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Let us not pinpoint individuals or political parties. know his views. (Interruptions) This will not be fair and thereby you will not solve the problem. You will creale problem because the situation is stiI SHRI SWARUP UPADHYAY tense there. I have spoken to the Chief (Tejpur): Even after 30-40 years, they Minister only an hour before. The Army are foreigners. (Interruptions) What kind is patrolling the area. It Is quite teOM. of justice is that? (Interruptions) There is tension. So, this House should give a message whereby It cools down. KUMARI MAMT A BANERJEE I will appeal to all parties. Let us discu88 (Calcutta South): It is a very sensitive this issue. That will be the right approach. subject. (Interruptions) There was Nehru- Liaqat pact. After 1971, there was a pact SHRI INDER JIT: I have been between Shrimati Indira Gandhi and Shri misunderstood.... (Interruptions) Mujibur Rahman. (Interruptions) They are not foreigners. (Interruptions) They are very much Indians. (Interruptions) I I am being misunderstood. I said request you that line should be expunged. at the very beginning that we need to (Interruptions) hang our heads in shame .•. (IntemJptIons) 633 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 634

MR DEPUTY -SPEAKER: Shri Inder largely in agreement with what the Jit is saying that he is being member from the Treasury Benches is misunderstood. Let us know the correct saying. position. Sir, what we are addressed with SHRI INDER JIT: I said at the very today is not to discuss a routine law and beginning that we need to hang our order default by the State Government. heads in shame for what has happened. We are also simply engaged in discussing It should never happened. And it is not one of the characteristics, and also by my intention to add fuel to the fire. No! now routine, failures of the Cemral On the other hand, I am saying that you Govemment. What we are discussing cannot tackle the problem unless you go Sir, is a horrifying illustration of the into the basic problem. I am in full consequences of an absence of policy agreement with what Mamta Bane~ee combined with a broken and a has just now said. I have not gone into mendacious government and the details. I am merely saying that the administration. Sir, the hon. Member issue of foreigners cannot be overlooked. form Da~eeling, Shri Inder Jit referred to Mandai. In this assembly other than the SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN hon. Member from Tripura itself, my (Kishanganj): You have misled the House! good friend presently from Tripura and who was not from Tripura before. viz. SHRI JASWANT SINGH hon. Sontosh Mohan Dev, there are only (Chittorgarh): Mr. Deputy-Speaker Sir, I two other Members who have had an rise to support the Adjournment Motion occasion to visit Mandai on Sixth of June which has been moved by my hon. friend 1981. I well recollect and I was privileged to discuss the alarming situation in Assam then to be granted this opportunity by and the failure of the Central Government Lalji Advani to accompany my leader Shri to intervene timely. It is necessary to Alai Behari Vajpayee 10 Mandai in the read out the text of the motion so as to month of June in 1981. I find it necessary focus our concerns on what it is that we to take the time of the House. I weU are seized off. remember, going with Atalji, we are not part of the official delegation. There was indeed a delegation Ihat was sent by the I must, at the very outset, say two former Prime Minister, the late hen. things. Firstly, I would like to sat that Shrimati Gandhi. She did direct the hon. death is a great leveller and death is not Raja Saheb. Dinesh Singhji to lead a identified through nationality. It is a very Congress Delegation to Tripura. saddening event that has takes place and without getting involved in the controversy-a needless controversy that I remember, Sir, going in a car attended upon the conclusions of my from Agartala to Mandai with Atalji. It was hon. friend Shri Inder Jit, the previous a mass grave of 232 bodies. It was about speaker from the Ruling Treasury 3 o'clock in the afternoon by the time we Benches-I would like to say that I agree reached Mandai. I was horrified to find with the broad thrust of his assertion. I that despite the deployment of army and do not know if he speaks for his party other forces pie dogs were scratching at or if he speaks for himself, but I find this grave. I remember a security official myself in the unusual position of being asking Atalji." Aur Dekhana Hai Aapko?·. 635 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 636

[Shri Jaswant Singh] Govemment, "Please, be mindful of what is happening in the North-East." I And I well remember Atalji even then remember even this year itself, Sir, I had saying, "Bas, Bahut Ho Gaya" Sir, this submitted to this Govemment that to my "Bas, Bahut Ho Gaya" might well have mind the situation in the North-east-I been said in the context of this mass treat Assam and all that as part of the grave of Mandai but now in this month totally of the North-East-is more serious of near end of July, 1994, a decade-and- than is made to appear, or than is made a-half later, these words "Bas, Bahut Ho across. In certain respect I do submit, Gaya" ring in my ears as a kind of Sir, that it is potentially more serious than waming to the entire nation of what is even the situation in the valley of Kashmir. to come when it comes to the whole of I have said this earlier and I do not say North-East. it because I wish to be an alarmist, I merely repeat what I have said. No doubt There was even then a discussion this specific and heinous crime has to be in the Parliament about Mandai, a on account of our failure somewhere, it discussion about what had taken place is no good saying that nobody has failed, and a great many speeches were made that the State administration has and many Members poured their anguish conducted itself perfectly, the law and in the House, expressed their concerns. order agencies have done their job What saddens me, Sir, that after Mandai perfectly, the intelligence agencies have and also after Nellie and quite rightly forewarned or have conducted themselves after all the killings of virtually the entire perfectly, the Central Government has decade of the eighties Assam, it appears discharged all its responsibilities perfectly as if we are still at the same position; and despite that this has taken place. that we have learnt no lessons, or as if Mandai or Nellie, or Assam of 1983, I do not think that this has been 1982 and 1981 or even subsequently allowed or anyone has convined at it. Sir, was not at all there. That is why I say, if this has happened, then certainly, Sir, that this discussion is not a discussion somebody is to answer. I submit to the about a simple or a routine failure of a Treasury Benches th:!t who it is to State Government or the by now answer will depend on the total characteristic failures of the Central deliberation of this House. Govemment, about what they should do or what they have not done. We are There are occasions in the life of addressing ourselves about the situation a Govemment, and the life of even this that seems to perpetuate itself certain Assembly, this Tenth Lok Sabha. when specific reasons. I will not list all these you have to address yourselves to the reasons. enormity of the question that is being posed. Most certainly, do by all means I am not gladdened but I would like protect and defend your State to point out, Sir, that for the last three Govemment. They are of a similar political years I have been privileged to participate persuasion. Do, by all means, with all the in discussions on the debates arising facts at your command and all the from the Address of the President to the eloquence at your command, protect the Joint Session of Parliament. In each of Union Government or the Central those debates, with as much concem as Govemment from whatever defaults we I can command, I have cautioned this wish to or actually point out. But do also 63! Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 638 please, simultaneously, at the same time, would like to caution, in all humility, this for the sake of India, protect the entire Assembly that you will do what you do North-East for our posterity, and for the in the North-East at the peril of the entire generations to come. If you do this and North-East and at the cost of the unity if you are able to convincingly combine of India. these three responsibilities, most certainly, I will be the first one to stand up and Secondly, Sir,-this is not a say I am not going to vote with Mr. hierarchical order of the characteristics in Chandra Jeet Ydav's Motion of their order of importance-it is the Adjournment. But you have to convince characteristic that strikes me as what me about combining these three concerns typifies the totality of the North-East. If first. Very briefly, I find it necessary to I started by giving the illustration of what point out-because, I do not know whether happened in Mandai, I have to point out my pleadings in earlier interventions had that in the overall picture of North-East, even eached the Prime Minister-some what characterises the approach of things, because my pleadings had gone successive Government is the absence unheard. Let me very briefly and only of an overall policy for the North-East. illustratively, not exhaustively, submit to This overall policy for the North-East has you, Sir, what to my mind are the resulted in what I call a fracturing, a characteristics or the ailments of the splintering effect in the North-East. North-East and let me also, Sir, for the sake of clarity of what I am saying when I talk of the North-East, let me also say You admitted to give to every kind of political and social particularism, a of what am I talking. I am talking of the different political identity. This process entire undivided State of Assam, of Tripura, Manipur, Meghalaya, Mozoram, has now gone to its very ultimate. For Nagaland and I am also, Sir, talking of every separate social identity, you wanted to give a political recognition, This political Sikkim. I am also, Sir, in a very real recognition has resulted in a splintering sense talking of areas of North-Bengal and I am also talking about, in the totally of the North-East. It is time for us to address ourselves to reversing of this of my concern, of certain contiguous process. How are we to reverse this areas of, which are adjoined or which enable us to move into that funnel or process of the splintering of the North- corridors through areas of Bihar. I am East? It is not an occasion for me to go also, Sir, referring to a sovereign into any elaboration of how we are to do independent nation which is land-locked it. But if we do not do it, if we do not by the North-East and I refer to Bhutan. address ourselves, the surely, we are This is what I mean when I talk ot North- blind to the reality that stares us in the East. What are the characteristic? Firstly face. and very briefly-I will not elaborate-this geographical distance from Delhi has have regard for the undoubted resulted in an emotional separation of the commitment of the Members of the North-East from this Capital city. Unless Treasury Benches both past and present you address yourselves to shortening for their integrity, for the great nationalism, this geographical distance-this is purely for the welfare of the nation. I do not a technical problem this emotional doubt it. I do not question your bona distancing will not be ended unless you fides. Certainly, I am not entitled to do not end this emotional distancing, I question your bona fides when it comes 639 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25,1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 640

[Shri Jaswant Singh] it suits' you tuming amber light on and then tuming it into red light. I will have to one or another Member of this House. an occasion to illustrate what this does But, certainly, I do question your and I would like to elaborate it furth~r judgment; certainly, I do question your later. ability to implement whatever you have yourselves said. The problem in the I agree with my previous speaker, totally of the North-East, on account of the hon. Member from Da~eeling. One agreements arrived at with the people is of the factors which we are witnessing that those very agreements are not being in the entire North-East is this factor of honestly implemented; those very electoral interests taking priority over agreements are being uptumed; those national interests, including unbelievable very agreements for one reason or and exceptional corruption. For the first another are being thwarted; those very time, the Union Home Minister, in this agreements are being permitted to decay very House, partiCipating in a discussion~ I resulting in discontent, to a defiance of think it was about Manipur admitted that authority. The full circle completes in this what we were witnessing in the North- fashion. East by way of corruption was unbelievable. We charge you, the Treasurl Benches, for this, because you have The kind of cor'\!etion that is now been more in the seat of authority, rampant, subsists not in just one State, holding offic(l and power; we charge you in every single State of North East it is for not implementing those agreements. beyond descriptioR. These are riot Certainly, in that sense, you carry greater perhaps the exact words of the Union. responsibility. The next factor in the Home Minister. This is certainly what the entire North-East is thi~ without any Union Home Minister unequivocally doubt. If we do .flot recogQise it, we do conveyed here and I recollect vert well it ~ our own peril. The probl~m of that I stood up and congratulated the lJ~hecked illegal immigration and their Home Minister. To my mind, this is the JIliiny consequences for the country; first time ever I have heard that a Union social and economic consequences Minister has admitted' to one of the single including political consequences of greatest failings of the North-East. Involuntary, demographic aggression upon one 0( land; this is wl'lat we are witness It saddens me. It does not delight in the totally of the North-East. There '!'le. I do not wish to score debating again I am not going into the details of pOints. My good friend, the Union Minister It. I will refer to thi$ particular point a little of State for Home would perhaps not later. take it amiss. I would appeal to him not to take it amiss, when I point out to What is the ·next characteristic? another cause that has caused this Where is the next fault that I find with difficultly; which is a lack of coordination the Central GovemmenHt is with this in the Unio!) Home Minister itself, This stop and go method of containing or lack of coordination in the Union Home checking insurgency. Insurgency is not Ministry results in an erosion of the controlled by a method of traffic light. authority of the Home Ministry. It results You cannot control Insurgency every now in the officials, of not just the Home and then like a traffic police man when Ministry but all the officials of the 641 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3.1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 642 administration of law and order from top This is not a newspaper report. to bottom. then being pulled in different This is a quotation from the report of the directions. If the instrument of authority Union Home Ministry of the year 1992- of the State of India is broken. is not 93. I am not the author of the Union working to one purpose. if the sword with Home Ministry'S report. The Treasury which you wish to fight. if that sword itseH Benches and the Union Home Ministry be blunted. then how will the State or itseH are the author and the Union Home this nation fight? Ministry itself cannot go back on what it has submitted as an annual report to Par1iament itself. The Union Home Minister is charged with a grave and serious responsibility. of all the responsibilities. not just of the Why I found it necessary to cite North East but of the entire nation If the this report, is not again to score a Union Home Ministry blunts its own debating pOint. There is no debating point sword. then it does not require me to to be scored in reminding everyone of even point out the consequence. what is already one year old. I am sure the hon. Minister of State for Union Home Ministry has had a hand in the This is not an observation about drafting of this report. It is therefore, not the Union Home Ministry. this is an necessary for me to remind him what he observation about the Captain of this himself reported to Par1iament, but it is team. This is an observation about the necessary for me to remind this House Prime Minister. This is a relijlonsibility of that in our preoccupation with the politics the Prime Minister. He has to address of the immediate, let us not forget about himself to this problem and I charge the the continuing realities of the North East. Prime Minister with continuing and deliberate default in this regard. I was talking about illegal immigration. I would like to point out just I have said that I will not elaborate two or three aspects of it, I am not going an these pOints, but there are one or two to repeat the obvious. aspects that I do wish to elaborate and if I exceed 'my time, I seek your I am informed that Pakistan indulgence. Television and Pakistan Radio, or through whatever other means they have at their disposal, are painting the happenings in I will quote a small passage: Barpeta as a Hindu-Muslim strife and as an attack by Hindu on Muslim. "The phenomenon of influx of population from erstwhile Pakistan, unchecked illegal immigration is now Bangladesh, has made the not a Hinds-Muslim question. Against this local population feel outnumbered. Pakistan propaganda that is being Economically the influx has cost a propounded, we have to recognise that heavy burden on the economic our international boundary or border, infrastructure in the North East. wherever not especially enabled through This has also seriously impaired international agreements. is not a border serious cohesion and often resulted for "'" immigration. Sir. our international in eIMIc tension and group clashes." boundary ceftainIy with erstwhile East 643 Adjoumment Motion Re: JULY 25,1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 644

[Shri Jaswant Singh} create this SULFA, not SELFA. I am eager to know this. Perhaps the Union Pakistan-exactly what the Union Home Minister himself will inform me that to Ministry is saying-now 8angaladesh, has persuade ULFA, to give up being U1..FA been under assault for decades. If now, and become SULFA, money is handed Sir, this international boundary buckles out. You wish to give them money. under the sheer weight of this assault, then Barpeta is only one of the examples. Sir, I have been informed, and this Let us not be misled into thinking that horrifies me, that in the context of 8arpeta by itself or what has happened Nagaland to persuade some of the Naga in 8arpeta is an ailment in itself. Sir, it insurgents to give up, an inducement of is not an aliment, it is but a symptom; Rs. 200,000 per head was offered. If you it is but a manifestation of greater ill and are an insurgent and if you lay down that greater ill is continued neglect of a arms, you will get Rs. 200,000. One very serious national problem, which is former Chief Minister of Nagaland of unchecked illegal immigration in this persuades 400 of his known tribal men, country and if we do not recognise that 400 of his known followers to falsely for what it is, it is not a Hindu-Muslim declare themselves as insurgents, go question, it is a question of the nationality and surrender falsely. He says, if there of this country, which nationality is not is nothing, at least you will get Rs. 2 lakh. to be bartered away simply by the How can you deal with this, my dear fraudulent procurement of a ration card. friend, Shri Sontosh? What games are Unless we recognise this reality, we will we playing? And we come up here-I continue to perputate our difficulties. recollect very well-that in the Union Cabinet's Address to Parliament, put Sir, now I come to 'stop go method' across to the country, through the mouth of playing with insurgents. Look at what of the President, the line says, "the the Government of Assam has done with situation in the North-East is improving". ULFA. You as the Army to go an Simultaneously, I point out that an eradicate ULFA. Th'3 Army takes action. intelligence report of the Army says, it The Army is on the verge of succeeding is not improving; the report of the totally. You say now come back. Three Governor of Manipur, the Lt. General months later, when you find that all that Nayar saya that it is not improving. has been achieved is now evaporating, you say, now you go again. This 'stop Firstly, I am told that you cannot go method' firstly erodes the authority of quote this document. I pOinted out that the State; secondly it cripples those very I really quoting what are the official agencies including the Armed Forces and documents, the Government itself is your paramilitary and your other State quoti.ng the same. What kind of curtains, police from acting with purpose, morale what kind of blinds are we wearing? and determination; and thirdly, most Please for Heaven's sake, even now importantly, every successive occasion recognise the realities of the North East on which you then repeat this action is for what it is worth. going to be so rnuch less effective. Assam is a classic example of what you Sir, now, I come to the non- have done by this 'stop go method' of implementation of the Accords. Sir, it will checking insurgency. Also, you in the take me only one minute. My party had face of ULFA to counter ULFA, you done me a great honour by deputing me 645 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 646 in those momentous years of being part moral authority to continue in office for of these tripartite discussions when the even one additional day. The Union Assam agitation was going on. And I Govemment has a responsibility to the looked with some sadness at the text of Constitution, to this Assembly and to the the Bodo Accord and Assam Agreements people of India. The only manner in that electoral rolls used in 1967 shall be which it can fulfil that responsibility is regualarised and foreigners who came to through the dismissal of that State Assam after 1966 shall be deleted from Govemment and through the immediate the electoral rolls in force. For this imposition of President's Rule in that purpose, the Govemment of India will State. undertake suitable strenghtening of the Govemment machinery. All persons earlier Secondly, I make a demand, even expelled from Assam who have since re- at this belated stage-whether it is Assam entered illegally after March 25, 1971 Accord or any of the other Accords in shall be expelled, foreigners who came the North East-you could say that in after that shall continue to be detected, letter, I have done it; but ask yourself deleted and expelled in accordance with if in spirit you have implemented that law. None of this has taken place. Not Accord. Please implement it. one of these have taken place and if it does not take place in this case, if you have difficulties in Mizoram, if you have My third demand relates to difficulties in Tripura and for the first time continued illegal, unchecked immigration. Meghalaya talks about it, these are not Please recognise that problem. Take matters to be taken lightly, At the root such steps as are necessary of all this, it is the agreements not being intemationally. I was giving an example. implemented, agreements being permitted In Bhutan, today, they are saying that the to decay, that decay resulting in defiance State of Cooch Behar is issuing citizenship arising again and defiance in tum creating certificates. insurgency. And if the District Magistrate or the Sir, you have been most Collector of Cooch Behar issues considerate to me. I will conclude now. citizenship certificates, those people go On behalf of my party, I am making four with citizenship certificates to Bhutan and or five demands. We do not ordinarily do Bhutan says we are obliged; they are it. We are mindful of the rights of the canying Indian citizenship certificates and State Govemments. We are conscious of we must let them in. Sir, since when has it because we are the victims of it and the right for issue of citizenship certificate we have been repeatedly victims. been passed on or devolved upon to Therefore, when BJP makes a demand District Collectorates? If it is happening, that if any action is to be taken against please put a stop to it. We believe that the State Government, we do not make unless a national register of citizens in that demand lightly. Nevertheless, we Assam is not reconstituted-by all means feel that the situation prevailing in Assam you use 25th March, 1971 as the cut- today is such, indeed in other parts of off date--but have a national register of the North East, but that is a different citizens and along with that national matter. But the situation prevailing in register of citizens, please implement Assarn today in such that the present what we, in the B.J.P., have been saying Government of Assam has no longer any for a very long time-a rnulti-purpose 647 Adjoumment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 648

[Shri Jaswant Singh] partition and the partition has resulted In a consequence and that result Is the identity card and you have that multi- uplifting and uprooting, a movement of purpose identity card not just in the North millions of human beings not just in ~ East but elsewhere also, but certainly in West but in the East also. And that there the North East at the very earliest. is a distinction between a refugee wh.o comes and seeks refuge In your land as Sir I have said enough. I would like a refugee and an iUegal immigrant. An to conclude with a word caution. iUegal immigrant comes surreptitiously with a view to exploiting things. There is SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: a distinction. The distinction Is self-evident. Before you conclude can I say something? I do not make this distinction on grounds I am extremely grateful for your very of faith. great speech. Your Party's stand in Assam, as far as I know on the basis Sir, I will conclude. I am most of the memorandum given to the Election grateful to you for having given me this Commission of India, is that those who opportunity. But I would like to say that have come after 1971, except the Hindu unfess you have a comprehensive policy should be deported. Is it your official for Assam and the North East, we win stand or the stand of your Assam branch? continue to repeat the mistakes that we are making. This Is my caution and it is SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I think it my hope, nevertheless, Sir, that at the is a very valid question. But I would not end of this decade, like we had .. look at it as Hindu and Muslim. discussion for Mandai In 1981, It is my hope that in 1996 or 1997 we do not have yet another discussion on yet SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: another incident of this kind in Assam 01 Your memorandum is like that. I have got the North East. 8 copy of it.

I support the Adjoumment Motion SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I am sure moved by my friend. you have it.

17.58 tin. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: I can send It to you. It is signed by your M.P. Shri Kabindra Purbyastha, sitting [StR P .C. CHAcKo In the Chabj here. . ..•. (Interruptkms) SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN SHRI JASWANT SINGH: I treat (KlshanganD: Sir, this moming In reply JO your question with utmost seriousness. the first question, we are told of the We have consistently made a distinction Moscow Declaration on plural socieIIes. between the consequences of partition, I also recall, Mr. ChaIrman, that there is the status of 8 refugee and an UIegaJ a U.N. Declaration on the rights of migrant. I do not make a distlnction on minorities which our Govemment have the basis of faith. But I do make a supported. There Is ai80 Gandhljl's wordI cI8IIncIion on the baal8 of Intent. I do 01 wisdom that a society's Stale .. recognise the reality of the consequence c:MIIzation shall be judged by III ...... of partIIIon. You cannot wIIh lIW8y of rninoItIIea. 649 Adjoumment Motion Re: SRAV ANA 3, 1916 (SAKA~ Alarming Situation in Assam 650

am making these three foreign immigrants. Yes, they are Bengali observations because minorities create speaking; yes, they are of Bengali origin, plurality and the minorities are not only but they came to that part of the country religious, but they can be linguistic, they 100 year ago, 75 years ago, generations can be racial, they can be cultural, they ago. They are not current immigrants can be ethnic and they can be regional. whom you can take by the collar, knock and throw out of the border. They are 18.00 hrs. Indian nationals by any legal standards, by any constitutional scale and they have their rights as much as you and, and The minorities are not limited to I the hon. Minister have. Therefore, I feel only one dimension. The minorities can that, we should not lose track. be at the village level, at the block level, at the district level, at the State level and they all have to be treated fairly in their Sir, Mr. Inder Jit, my good friend, own places. has tried to throw, if I may say so, a number of red herrings across our track. I think he has been most inhuman. It is Now, for the last decade or two we tragic that we should hear in this House have gone on a senseless spree in a justification of brutal massacres on a creating mini State, micro State, minute false ground that they are foreigners. homelands, even creating small zones.

SHRI INDER JIT: Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, I would like to place Sir, I want to make a clarification. it before you for your consideration that howsoever minutely you cut up any area inhabited by human being you cannot SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: I am have an absolutely homogeneous pocket. not yielding to you. There will always be minorities there. It will always be a plural society and SHRI INDER JIT: I have not therefore, I feel that this existence of justified. minorities should not and cannot justify in all human conscience the practice SHRI SYED SHAHABUDOtN: I am which has acquired the name of ethnic not yielding. cleansing. Sir, the Census of India says that I allege, Mr. Chairman, that what between 1971 and 1991, the rate of happened on a massive scale in Bosnia growth of population of Assam is less and Rwanda has been happening on a than the rate of growth of India as a mini scale in these district of Assam. whole. Where is the theory of illegal Kokrajhar and Bongaigaon and Barpeta. immigration? Where is the case of massive It Is only a difference of dimension, a infiltration? Yes, I do not rule out that in clfterence of quantity, but there is no any porous border, given this inefficient qualitative difference at all. You are trying Government, you will always have a few to throw out people who do not belong thousand people strolling across back to you, who are different from you and and forth. But where are thosa Iakhs? It is absolutely wrong on the part of some There are the Census figures. If we do of our colleagues here to say that those not believe in our own Census figure J who are being ousted from BodoIand are do not know what we believe in. We 651 Adjournment Motion Re: • JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 652 IShri Syed Shahabuddin] prosperity of Assam; and their villages have also been attacked. But, I would not seem to believe only in our prejudices, like ourselves to be involved in this larger in our own perceptions, in our false question and of larger dimension. Here notions, in our own false ideologies. is a human tragedy. And all that has been said here is merely an alibi, is merely a justification, is merely a plea to Mr. Chairman, I am not justifying ignore the human dimension of this illegal immigration. If there is a single tragedy and confuse ourselves with all case of illegal infiltration, it is the duty the legalities. of the Executive, the State Executive and the Central Executive to act in accordance Sir, what has the State Government with the law, even to prosecute anyone done? The State Government was in accordance with the law on the ground cautioned. The State Government has of suspicion. If he is found to be a not taken any action against a single foreigner, you deal with him according to individual involved in the last two the law. But you cannot refuse protection, massacres-October 1993, and June you cannot at massacres and you cannot 1994. In October 1993, not a single allow the guilty to go unpunished. person was arrested while hundreds were ..... (/nterruptions) killed; in June 1994, six persons who were witnesses were arrested; they were SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA not supposed to be culprits. They had (Madhuban): Please do not use phrases only seen things happening and they like ·on the grounds of suspicion". This were let off quietly. must not be part of the record. Sir, in that part of the land, there SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN is a BSF-not our Border Security Force, (Kishanganj): I am deliberately using that it is the Bodo Security Force. It goes its phrase but the executive must have a around freely carrying arms, terrorising the people and this Chief Minister or this prima facie case. Naturally, on account GoVernment Assam which applied all its of suspicion, it shall try to find out more. I am saying, do not ignore it. I agree with strength against ULFA and has been able Mr. Jaswant Singh. Please do not ignore to contain it to a large extent not lifted a Single case. Please collect the a finger against the Bodo Security Force. This is my allegation. Sir, all that it has information, make the enquiry and if you have a prima facie case, apply the law. done is that it has tried to perpetuate the I am sure that that satisfies you, Sir. problems. There were difficulties about the delimitation of the Bodoland. There are unresolved issues. What should have Sir, what I am trying to talk about been done is to reconcile those is this. They are not foreigners; those differences, is to sit down with all the who have been killed are Indian nationals. people of the area, with all the political And they were not only BengaJis,-let me leaders of Assam and work out a try to correct for the record-they were reasonable human solution. After aU there Santhals, they were Nepalese, they were are non-Bodos In Bodoland and they wID Arains who were migrants from my State also always be there and there are Bodos of Bihar who have been there for outside the BodoIand and they wi. also generations working and toiHng for the always be there.and both of them have 653 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 654

to live in peace, amity and goodwill with Above all, I would like to draw your their own social environment. And, attention to the policy followed by the therefore, something has to be worked present leadership in Assam. The out. But it is not resolving the delimitation leader.,hip was not to deal with Bodo issue, the question of non-Bodo villages problem or to deal with the problem of any being included in the Bodoland. It is like community but to utilise the old imperial taking one Sikh village 10 miles away formula of divide and rule. So, the Bodo from the Punjab border in Haryana and movement was divided. One was placed adding it to Punjab on the ground that in power and the others were placed it is peopled by Sikhs. Can that be outside. The result was rivalry. In any justified? Why cannot live safely in such situation, it is always the radical Haryana and, therefore, why cannot Bodos extreme which gains ground and that is live safely outside the Bodoland? Yes, precisely what has happened. I am told the contiguous area peopled by the that one section was supported by Mr. Bodos in which the Bodos have a Saikia and the other section was supported concentration must be part of Bodoland. by his opponents within his own party. But this problem was not tackled for One section was supported by one set of resolution at all. No steps were taken for people in the Home Ministry here and the the resettlement of the displaced persons, other group of people were supported by Mr. Chairman. People who were displaced another set of people in the Home Ministry last October are still living in camps, in here. One set of people were supported unapproachable, inaccessible camps. Mr. by the Home Ministry and the other set of Chairman, do you know that 150 persons people were supported by Assam have died in those camps because of lack Government. In this trilateral or tri- of medicines, much more than the number dimensional division of the people of of people who were killed by the Bodo Bodoland, such a crisis has to occur. I am Security Force and all Bodo Students cautioning you that this is not the end of Union in those disturbances? It is amazing. the matter, that no more massacres are I drew the attention of the Assam going to take place and, therefore, we Govemment to do something about those have to look of it in a very sensible camps, to create conditions in which manner. people can live and go back in peace to their homes; they can have a sense If you go through the Act passed of security. I found a reign of terror, Mr. by the Assam Assembly, it must be clear Chairman. People were not prepared to that the responsibility for the protection go back. There were no police outposts of minorities of Bodoland is with the and even your Army presence, Mr. Rajesh Assam Government. The Assam Pilot, was only illusory. They were Government has failed in that statutory supposed to be patrolling in some responsibility. It was said there that if accessible areas they were not penetrating there is a break down of law and order those areas where people's lives were in in the Bodoland area, then the Bodoland danger. Council may be dissolved and the Governor of Assam after the first At no pOint of time, in October or massacre came on the TV and radio and in June, was any area placed directly told the Bodo militants that "if you do not under army control. It was not done. That behave and if there is another massacre, is the specific allegation I am making to we will dissolve the Council.' Now we you. The measures taken were ineffective. have the fourth massacre; 655 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 656

[Shri Syed Shahabuddinj found in the social environment based on justice and fairplay and harmony. I would appeal to the Government that let us not look at the problem in a It cannot be found under the piecemeal manner. I agree with my friend umbrella of any individual or any party. Shri Inder Jit who has said just now that Therefore, I suggest that Mr. Saikia is you cannot have a design for the North- incapable of running Assam in its East like a quilt-patch each claiming a interests. I think his time has come. We certain iota or a certain degree of gave him a long rope. He was the Chief sovereignty. Let us have an over-all Minister when the Nellie massacre took design. I think that existed in the British place. We forgot that 10,000 people were time. It has broken down now. It can be massacred in cold-blood. It was like re-established on the principle of mutual drops of water on a duck's back I respect and decentralisation. There are identities which need to be recognised. But those identities are of such a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE dimension in quantitative terms that they MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI can be fitted into a purely federal pattern RAJESH PILOT): It happened during the of autonomy as a bloc. as a district. as election time. Our party was in power an autonornous region. within a common afterwards. state which should be viable. Your policy that has been followed over the last ten years. is a completely misdirected policy SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: But and that is making life unsafe for the your Government was in power. What I minorities in every one of these areas. am saying is that in any case the present May be. economically. also more difficult record of Shri Saikia is clear. We gave for them. May be culturally impoSSible for him a long rope. The Government should them. May be. phYSically difficult for not stay for a day. All parties across-the- them to eXist. Therefore, you should look board in Assam have demanded his at your entire scheme of things. dismissal. I am sure, many Members of your own party think that the time has come for changing the leadership of Shn Saikia was kind enough to Assam. Therefore, I suggest that the send me a minister to have a two hour Government be dismissed and the Assam discussion with me. What I told him I Assembly be kept in suspended sorted out forth a record, In a letter and animation. Secondly, this area of Bodoland sent it to him a copy of which I also sent must be brought directly under the control to the Home Ministry. I do not know if of the Central Government and should anythtng has been done. I think we stay there with the presence of the Army. cannot wait any longer. Mr. Saikia has with the presence of the Central Reserve been playing a pOlitical game in Assam. Forces until law and order is established. He knows that his future depends on the At the same time, you should talk with support of minorities. His technique is to all segments of the Bodo opinion and instill fear and terror in the minds of the work out a fair arrangement in which, as minorities and then to say"' would I said earlier, the Non-Bodo villages may protect you, come and take shelter under be kept out. But all the Bodo areas can my umbrella: This will not do. True be integrated and can be rightly given security to the minorities can only be to them. 657 Adjournment Motion Re: SAAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 658

After saying these words, I would villages which were affected big or like to make one more suggestion. Please small -numbering around 56 villages. The do not treat the Bodos as foreigners. people affected, Bodos and religious They are, perhaps among the oldest minorities, number more than 50.000. inhabitants of this sub-continent older than we are. They are Indians. There is And this incident took place in a no justification at all. I am pleading their large area covered by the River Benky case, for, you are taking away 10 kms. in the West and River Pohumara in the strip along the Bhutan border. It is theirs. East covering a population of abo~t five Nobody else lives there. It may be to seven lakh. This gruesome murder, sparsely populated. Please give it to gruesome happening was there and the them. But then do not fo;ce the Non- Bodos were also affected. But the most Bodo villages, which have no contiguous affected section of the population was Bodo village in the main Bodoland, into the Muslim minority. They came in the Bodoland area as a compensation. streams, uprooted from the houses for You cannot have security at the expense shelter. I rushed there on 20 July. : tried of the minorities living in the south. to contact the Minister and other officials Therefore, my last word is that it is a at Dispur. There were no Ministers. The very tragic situation. I knew it was Chief Minister was in Delhi. The Home coming. But I did not know that it would Security was also there in Delhi and the come so soon. I would not be surprised Chief Secretary was also there in Delhi. that if this Government does not take And the only Minister I could contact was notice today, more massacres will take Shri Mukut Shanma. I infonmed him about place in the near future. I hope that will the serious situation prevailing there. I not happen. I think the Government will tried to contact Rajyapal over telephone. wake up. I tried to contact the hon. Home Minister Shri S.B. Chavan over telephone. But he was ill. I was infonmed at that time that SHRI UDDHAB BARMAN (Barpeta): he was going to Bombay. I tried to Mr. Chairman, Sir. with a heavy heart contact the hon. Minister Shri Rajesh and with much concem I am participating Pilot. He was busy in a meeting. I told in the Adjournment Motion which I his Private Secretary to kindly take note support. Gruesome murder has been of what was happening in that area. I committed on the night of 23rd. The told him that the situation demands that refugees who were uprooted from their more forces including military should be houses were murdered. Practically, bullets sent there. I was not given an assurance were showred on them killing and injuring for taking any step from the side of the many. There were no measures to protect Centre. So, the situation drifted like the lives of these innocent people. This anything. There was no force, no Anmy incident, this sort of violence, gruesome and people there were panic-stricken. and horrifying violence has been taking They fled to other places for shelter. This place in that area since the night of 19th happened on the 20th of this month. This July. I was there on the moming of 20th violence also extended to other places. July. People were coming in streams for There was hardly any step taken to shelter. On the 19th July, in the night, protect the lives and property of the there were clashes between Bodos and people of that area. Practically, there was Muslims. This continued up to 22nd. I no administration to protect the lives of can give a list of the names or the the people, to protect the property of the 659 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 660

[Shri Uddhab Barman] blast killing more than six police officials. I am told, the police, to nab the extremists people there-both Bodos and minorities. tried to make use of some Muslim youth: The Government has no moral right to I am told they were dressed "in police continue in power in the State. uniform. They went to the villages in search of the Bodo extremists; but they harassed the Bodo people there. There Now people are taking shelter in was an allegation that some committed areas, about fifty kilometres away from rape and looting were also committed on the area from where they were evicted. the Bodo people. This has entirely Some of the people went to Koyakushi, aggravated the situation. On 19th of this 30 to 40 kilometres away from their month when the police with some Muslim places of residence. There was no youth went to Dhekiajani there were administration. I contacted the police clashes. The clashes continued-Bodo officials when their houses were being people attacking Muslims and Muslims burnt and violence was taking place, The attacking Bodos. This conflagration police officials said that storm was over covering many areas there went on. So and the situation was coming down. How naturally a question comes as to who is did he assess the situation? What is his responsible for the entire situation, who assessment of the situation? How do are the people responsi:Jle for that. I they assess the situation? This is the fate want that the Central Government and of the people there. So practically, there the State Government should identify the was no administration at that point of culprits and also identify which are the time and there was also no proper social factors responsible for this. assessment of the situation. On the 22nd, some Ministers went there and in Some of my colleagues have the evening the Chief Minister also went already cited the incidents of Kokhrajhar to Barpeta Road. I talked to the Minister. and Bongaigaon. In May this year there We suggested them that more deployment were incidents in Kokhrajhar district. The to forces should be there as people were Bodo Security Forces committed the very much panicky and without security. mischief. In Bongaigaon district there There is no resistence. So more were clashes and a large number of deployment of forces including Army Muslim minority people were attacked. I should be sent there. But the Ministers also went to that area. Now the incident instead of collectively meeting the in Barpeta district has occurred. One aggravating situation, were quarrelling after another these clashes are being among themselves. One of the organised. The people who suffer the Ministers-a State Minister created a most are from the poorer sections of the scene paralysing the entire police society. I know a lot of the area. Which administration. So the entire administration are the forces which commit these violent could not be geared up to protect the activities on these poorer people? These lives and properties of the people there. forces should be identified and exemplary punishment should be meted out to This is the situation. People are them. saying that this particular Minister is creating a situation which is exploited by There is a lot of problem for Bodo the Bodo Security Force. You know that people. They are poor and deprived. on 13th of this month there was a bomb They org~nised a movement for a 661 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 662

separate State. Now they are given an We do not agree to such argument. We autonomous council. Our party supported do not agree that all Muslims are that autonomy should be given to the Bangladeshis. This has created an anti- Bodo people. A good chunk of them Muslim feeling there. The campaign should be involved in the democratic against the Bangladeshis is now administration of the area and in solving amounting to a campaign against the their problems themselves. Our party has Muslims living there. Some Bodos also stood by this demand. We want even indulge in such a campaign. This is now that Bodo people should be given creating the problem. more autonomy. 1 . ~ . We are for detection of foreigners. But in passing the Bodo autonomous We are for the 1971 as the cut-off year. Council Bill in Assam Assembly the State All parties agreed to 1971 as the cut- Government created a lot of problem. It off year. Since long back, we have been is a serious and sensitive problem. All demanding that the border should be parties should be taken into confidence. sealed. We do not understand what The Bill was hurriedly passed in the prevented the Central and the State Assembly creating a lot of confusion Governments to seal the border and to among the Bodo and the non-Bodos. settle the question of infiltration. Some Even in Bodo land autonomous council people are coming from Bangladesh to area in certain areas there are more non- India. Those people who have come after tribals than tribals. Our demand was that 1971 should be detected and sent back. where there are 50 percent or more Bodo people, that should be included in Who prevents the Govemment from the Bodo autonomous area, so that the doing this? But they are utilising the Bodo people can better serve themselves. bogey of foreigners to disturb the unity But that was not done. All political parties of the people in the State. This is were not taken into confidence when the disintegrating the society in Assam. The Bill was passed. We should create some integration and unity of the people in confidence among the Bodo and the non- Assam is being eroded bit by bit. Bodo people. The nO:1-Bodo people are also feeling that they are insecure in the We all know that Assam is a Bodoland area. They are forming non- multilingual and multi-cultural State. There Bodo Protection Samitis, etc. and the are Assemese people. There are Bengalis. ruling party is encouraging them. Muslim are also there. There are tribals. Many of our friends in Delhi and Assam At the present moment, there is a do not recognise the fact that Assam is lot of confusion among different sections a multilingual State. There is a lot of of the people. So, the situation has problem in Assam. The Assamese people created a lot of problems. There is a lot are also having a lot of genuine problems. of campaign against the Muslim minority. The minorities are also having some These people are mostly the victims of democratic aspirations. If we want to erosion of rivers Brahamputra, Benki, integrate the different section of Assam, Manas, etc. They went there for decades. we must recognise this fact that Assam They cultivated the land. Some of them is a multilingual and multi-cuftural State. have been settled by :he Government We must keep in mind the democratic itself. Someone may be there, but all aspirations of the minorities whether they Muslims are not foreigners Bangladeshi. are Muslims or Bengalis or tribals. If we 663 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 664

[Shri Uddhab Barman] North Eastern part of India. I should say that it is indeed a very welcome departure. do not recognise this fact, we will not be able to tackle the problem of Assam. But Sir, there come moments in a the present Government in Assam is man's life when truth stares at you bluntly creating problems. One section of people and slaps you hard in your face and it is being set against the other. This is is very difficult for you to adhere to creating more problems. So, I wish that proprieties and etiquettes. It is specially a democratic and scientific approach so if the truth concerns us all; specially should be preferred to solve the problems when the truth concerns not only Assam. of Assam. Because I do not believe that what is happening in Assam tOday-and I have In this context, I want that the been repeating it again and again-what Central and State Governments is happening in the North Easl today immediately arrange to send relief material concerns us all. If some of you have a to the inmates of the relief camps. They false hope that what is happening in the are without food, without security and far off Assam and North East will never without medical aid. And there should happen here, then you are living in a also be some discussion among the fool's paradise. I have been telling time political parties and other people also, so and again that the contradictions and the that the Bodo Autonomous Council can conflicts that are arising in Assam today function properly. will definitely be taking place in the rest of the country tomorrow. Unless you take MR. CHAIRMAN: Please wind up. strong steps to halt the process of disintegration, the whole process of SHRI UDDHAB BARMAN: I am conflict and confrontation, I am sorry to concluding Sir. At the same 1ime, I would say that Assam will undoubtedly become like to reiterate that criminals who always the graveyard of Indian Democracy and are responsible for the situation now Indian Democracy as a whole might not occurring in that area should be identified survive. It is with this spirit that we have and exemplary punishment should be to ponder over this quest:on and look into meted out to them. The Govemment the various aspects as to why the situation must taken all out security measures. has aggravated so badly.

With these words, I conclude. Sir, violent delights have violent ends. Under no circumstances can we SHRI KIAIP CHAUHA (Guwahati): afford to play politics with human blood. Mr. Chairman Sir, I do not support the I totally disagree with what Shri Inder Jit Adjournment Motion moved by Shri has said, in whatever spirit he might have Chandrajit Yadavji. But I definitely said that. When human lives are lost, you welcome the spirit in which the discussion cannot find any excuses. When you seek is taking place in the sense that at a point excuses, you accuse yourself. of time when a terrible tragedy is engulfing Assam, Parliament, the highest body has People have died. Aod the death decided 10 show its concem and more that has occurred in Barpeta .is a importantly an attitude of trying to massacre. These massacres are taking understand what is happening in that place repeatedly in the North East in 665 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 666 various forms. They are not limited to go on for ever. I would definitely like to strifes between tribals and non-tribals. In pinpoint some of the facts. Nagaland, there are conflicts between Nagas and Kukis. In Assam we have am very grateful to the discussed the Barpeta problem. I have observations made by some of the senior come from Assam only yesterday. We leaders. I know Jaswant Singhji since my were discussing this issue. A number of childhood. Atalji Vajpayee have been refugees who are living in the camps are time and again visiting our place. I would Rajvanshis and Rajvanshis are also like to say that media has to be little original inhabitants of Assam. A number more responsive to the needs of North- of them are Bengali Hindus. Bengali Eastern State. Unless massacre ,takes Hindus also got killed. I would only like place or big firing takes place, media is to stress that a superficial approach and not concerned about what is happening trivial solutions and above all experts in the North-East. Today there is no who fly down to North East for one day difficulty with regard to communication. and come back here, can never solve the We have only to be a little more problem of North East. They will responsive. Today media has to playa complicate the problems still further and very big role and unless the media and in that process destroy India as a whole. the Parliament go deep into the problem, we cannot find any solution. As Jaswant Sir, what a tangled web we weave Singhji said. it is true that massacre is when first we practice to deceive! Should just a symptom, is just an outward I say more on that? Today, at this point manifestation of the inner cancer and we of time I cannot say like lady Macbeth have to find out where the inner cancer that even when I wash, I see blood in is. And, here we have the time to find my hands. Innocent children, women are out where the cancer is. In this country being killed. I cannot say like lady the biggest problem that we have is the Macbeth, problem of time. We hardly have time to discuss anything. We do not have time ·Out, dammed spot. to discuss even our national security. We partiCipate in discussion without knowing out, I say, one, two why. the reality. For example. take the Bahjani incident. It cannot be a communal Then it is time to do it." question because I have been told that there are about 9000 Muslims in 2 particular village wno have been protected I cannot tum myself into lady by 10,000 Hindu Assamese. This IS on Macbeth. Under no circumstances I can recvrd and Shri Rajesh Pilot has himself do that and that is why, Sir, I have been time and again appealing to you, please seen it. do not convert Assam into a killing field. Unfortunately. today Assam has become Sir, we have talked about a number a killing field in spite of everything because of problems and I am entirely in 'Brutus is an honourable man.' It is very agreement with some of the basic difficult at times when murders take place questions which have been pointed out to justify action. Still I will try to be by Shri Chandrajit Yadav, Shahabuddinji rational and not emotional at aU because and Jaswanl Singhj;, How long will life comes and goes and things have to fragmentation and structuring of Assam 667 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 668

[Shri Kirip Chaliha] go on misusing my political authority? Can I hide all my inefficiency by saying continue? By strengthening the cause of that my State IS a trouble-tom State? separatism in Assam, are you trying to Suppose I assume that there is '. a hide out your own inefficiency in Uttar possibility of political interest or for my Pradesh or Madhya Pradesh? Are you own personal benefit, insurgency and trying to become champions of tribals in anti-national activities are allowed to go Assam just to get some votes in Bihar, on unabated, what will you say? Is it not U.P. and Madhya Pradesh? ·(ou have to a very dangerous thing? Whenever there be little more rationale about it. The other are massacres, you send relief materials. day in the Home Ministry one senior You are distributing these relief materials Member asked me that massacre has to more than one lakh people, Suppose taken place in one tribal area and 23 I say that it gives us an opportunity to women have been raped. So autonomy get 50 per cent commission for distribution has to be given. I told him that in Uttar of medicines, then what will you say? Pradesh or Madhya Pradesh for hundred Suppose I say that politics of human of years now Jagirdars, Zamindars or blood must become th~ future profession Thakurs have kept the entire caste of the in this country, then what will happen? people as their personal property and Can you just dismiss this as an unfounded exploited them. Are you giving them truth and wild imagination of a young autonomy? There cannot be dichotomy idiotic Parliamentarian? When truth hurts in dealing with a situation. That is the you and inconvenience you, then truth first priority wnen you are dealing with hurts you more. I would appeal to you a situation like this and I assert that the all and to this House once again to problem of North-East cannot be dealt understand the psyche of the North-East with in isolation. as has been said by Mr. Inder Jit. The psyche of the North-East has to be seen You will be having contradictions in its multidimensional aspect not in one there. You already have Laloos today. aspect. I am an Assamese, I know that You have the Mandai Commission division my State was in isolation. So I have taking place here in North India. There every right to feel aggrieved. Does it are fantastic contradictions which will mean that you will allow me to take up come if not today, tomorrow. You are arms tomorrow in order to kill somebody? already having it. These are very pertinent The Indian nationalism, the land of this points. But there are one or two equally country and the commitment to this pertinent pOints which have not been country cannot be sacrificed because I pointed out by anyone. I would like to have certain grievances. Because of just ponder over it by hinting at the these grievances if I take to arms, I problem. Sir, you will be surprised if I say cannot be pardoned. A line has to be that insurgency, extremism and demarcated whether there is a border or massacres are very profitable businesses no border. in politics. Sir, excuse me for saying so. Suppose I say today that in my State I Unfortunately, Accords are made have a problem of extremists. Can I at the drop of a lat; Accords are made exploit that situation with an unlimited for exhibiting in Television, Accords which political authOrity that I have with me? are never implemented and people get Can I go on exploiting people? Can I go hurt. We have to understand the on taking recourse to corruption? Can I compulsions of situations. Sir, I am 669 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 670

saying these things precisely because who had surrendered to ULFA rule the these are distortions which are coming roost. into our political system. These are the distortions which are taking place in Everybody listened to them. The Indian Parliamentary democracy. People Government officials listened to them. are misusing the system to discredit the that is the policy of the Indian Government. system and this might finish off the entire We cOl1demn Bodo extremists who killed political edifice of the country. So, we these people. We are saying that they have to be a little alert and cautious. should be brought to book. The guilty has to be punished. Suppose tomorrow they Sir, I was the President of the decide to join the mainstream. What do Youth Congress of Assam for six years. we do? How long will this process of Those were the days when ULFA killings appeasement, appeasing anti-national were taking place. The General Secretary forces continue? If my son tells me of the Youth congress of Assam was today, "My dear dad, I should have killed killed because he held a Congress you because you are a nationalist. If I Meeting. I am not saying this because had killed you, I would have got what I I was there. I believe in a particular wanted; but I did not kill you. So, I am ideology. We are nationalists. The suffering." What answer do I have? But Congress is the only nationalist party. I there is an answer from the top. It is brought his widow along with all the MPs being practised by top people. of Assam. I went to a particular Minister. I told him that her husband had sacrificed So, Assam's problem is not a his life for the cause of nationalism. You simple problem of tribals and non-tribals; at least sanction her a petrol pump of it is not a problem of immigration only; a gas agency so that her family can be there are other facets also. Who are rehabilitated. They had an independent these immigrants, the Bangladeshis business also. Their business was totally Hindus? Who are immigrants from shattered because of this. Still nothing Bangladesh? You had partitioned this had been done. But the person who had country. They did not have any place to killed him had been rewarded. The Home live there. They came and settled down Ministry's policy was such that they had here. They are Bengalis. When they given Rs. 2 lakh, a Gypsy car, contracts, came here, they did not bring everything. jobs and what not. They are people like simple shopkeepers: they are ordinary people. You condemn Some of these people had come them to hell. That is the obligation you and asked me to give them petrol pumps, are doing to this country for the partition. I said, "my goodness, petrol pump also·, Who are the immigrant Muslims? I am helpless. I am a member of Infiltration is not welcome. Most of them Parliament from Guwahati for the last were invited by the Government to do three years. Can you believe that I could cultivation because they needed peasants. not give contracts or liquor shops, jobs That side has to be looked into. Every and so on being given to some of them. problem has got different facets. You A number of workers were working for have to look into its totality; you cannot me for the last six years for the cause isolate it. It is not a question of making of nationalism, but I could not do anything 2 + 2 = 4. Had it been so, there would for them. Why? It is because the people not have been any problem in Assam. 671 Adjournment Moition Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 672

[Shri Kirip Chalihaj get any answer. No constable was suspended for this decision; no Inspector Unfortunately, nothing has been done in was suspended for this decision. Now, this regard. if we allow the extremists to go' to another country, who is to take this The other day, I asked the Home blame? Is it I or you or the Home Ministry Secretary in a meeting of the Standing or anybody else? Committee certain questions. You will be shocked to know that the reply of the Someone earlier had said why has Home Secretary was that if I could it failed? Something must have gone answer all these questions. there would wrong somewhere. When everything was have been no insurgency in Assam. So, all right, still things failed. It means that what do we do? It is not that these accountability has to be there. people do not know it. I know Shri Rajesh Pilot, who is sitting in front of me, since I have ben repeatedly appealing, my young political life. You will be whenever I get a chance to speak I try surprised to know that more than 60 per to keep myself away from the controversy cent people who know politics in Assam of Assam -that this question has to be do not consider him U. P. walla; they taken very seriously. consider him Assamese. He knows each and everybody by name. But has he been able to do anything? What is the What is the future of hundreds of secret of not doing anything I do not thousands of nationalists like me in this know? There may be some secret. But country? The people and my children, I am just hinting at certain things. II is who believe that this land, this country difficult to say certain things. What is belongs to us, is our country and no really important is the role of the army, amount of provocation can take us away Once again, we have placed certain from this country-what future we have districts in Assam under the control of for them? Have we been encouraging the army. But What can army do? When nationalism or have been encouraging you send army there, the State terrorism? Have we been encouraging Government issues an official press idealism or have we been encouraging statement condemning the role of the corruption and opportunism? Have we army at times questioning the wisdom of been encouraging straightforward the army. How do you blame the poor commitment to the nation or have we army? I do not find answers to these been encouraging small time machiavillian machinations which are ruining this questions. country? You are talking about extremism. At one point of time, three top ULFA These are the questions which I leaders-Chainman, Vice-Chairman and cite keeping in mind not only the specific the General Secretary except the incident of Barpeta massacre but these Comrnander-in-Chief-were in police are the questions which concern us all. custody. One morning we heard that they These are the questions which will come had fled to Bangladesh and they were up today or tomorrow in the context of under pressure from lSI. I asked who Barpeta, if not in the context of Barpeta, sent them to Bangladesh, who allowed then in the context of Ayodhaya, if not them to go from this country. I did not in context of Ayodhaya then in the 673 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 674

context of some other place which will Sir, in 1991, the Saikia Government keep coming. We hope these questions came to power in Assam and I must say, get stopped and we find an answer and what my friend Shri Krip Coaliha has a political will of the Government is elaborated is correct. I am very happy exhibited in full measure not only for that he showed the courage to depict the show but in the real sense. Otherwise, real picture and activities of the it will be very difficult to control this Government of Assam. Whatever he was situation and one day my children, like telling were the activities and actions of Lady Macbeth, might say, 'Is this a the State Government of Assam. dagger which I see before me; the handle towards my hand, come let me 19.00 hrs. . clutch this and stab somebody. And since this present Gcvemment came to power in 1991, in all the fields, SHRI KABINDRA PURKA YASTHA in the State of Assam. the situation has (Silchar): Mr. Chairman Sir, I rise to been worsened. In no field. there is any support the Adjournment Motion brought sign of improvement. in connection with the Barpeta incident and the present situation in the State of MR. CHAIRMAN : Shri Purka- Assam. yastha, please sit down for a minute.

The Barpeta incident is not a solitary We took up this Adjournment Motion one. It is one of the incidents in chain at 4.30 p.m. and the time permissible is two of the incidents. While speaking regarding hours and thirty minutes. Now it is 7 p.m. If this incident, I must bring before the the House so desires, we will extent the House the activities of the Govemment time. There are 11 more Members who now ruling the State of Assam. would like to participate in this discussion.

The hon. Members are aware that First thing is since the independence this is an Adjournment Motion and we of the country maya time in the House, have to wind up the discussion today I have told, the sense of alienation itself. So, we extent the time by one among the people of the North East is hour, that is, upto 8 p.m. I request the growing. This is only because since the hon, Members to be brief. partition of the country, no Government·-neither the Central (Interruptions) Government nor the State Government- put any importance on the problem of the SHRIMATI BIBHU KUMARI DEVI North Eastem States in any field; in the (Tripura East): We can take it up economic field, cultural field, social field tomorrow. (Interruptions) or in any respects. So this is the main cause that the people of North East feel MR. CHAIRMAN: That is not alienated from the mainstream of Ihe possible . So, I take it that the sense country. This is most unfortunate and for of the House is to extend the time up that the party which is ruling is solely to 8 p.m. for the time being. responsible. The Government at the Centre as well as the State Govemment Shri Purkayastha, you can confinUl are solely responsible for this. your' speech. 675 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 676

SHRI KABINDRA PURKA YASTHA: cause for dissatisfaction and division Sir, this Saikia Government is somehow among different communities and linguistic trying to maintain its power, to retain its groups in the North-East. power. That is why. this Saiki a Governrnent has taken up the path of Sir, the present incident has started divide and rule. Sir, it is so unfortunate on 13th, of this month when one Additional that all the tribal groups are somehow SP and six police persons were killed. allured to approach the Government to This is the starting of the present situation. get autonomy. Whoever approaches the And after that, tor two or three days, there Saikia Governrnent, without any thinking, were to some extent calm. But from 18th the Saikia Government says that they will again, this group clash has started. And get autonomy. This is not for the benefit it is so unfortunate that it happens when of that particular group of tribal. This is the Saikia Govemment has moved its only to maintain the position of the Saikia Cabinet and is sitting at Barpeta. Even Government in the State and to create then, they cannot control anything. divide and rule policy among different groups to retain its power. This is the The tackling of the matter by the policy of Saikia in the State of Assam State Government or by the Ministry was and that has created division in the State very unfortunate. The Govemment should of Assam among different sections of take initiative as to how the peace can people and among different communities. be restored as to how the situation can be changed. However, the Government Sir, this Bodo agreement was made is thinking to divide the people. and the people at mat time thought that definitely through the Bodo agreement, Then, under the leadership of one some sort of peace might corne. But you Minister of State and with the help of a will find that after the agreement was high police official, an attack was made signed, practically no peace has come, in the Bodo villages and Bodo people rather people have been divided further. were killed and women were raped. That This has become one of the causes for incident created a resentment among the the latest incident. people of the area. That happened on the 22nd. This created a resentment Sir, the question of infiltration has among the Bodo people and that is why come up. It is surprising to notice that killings took place on the 23rd and for while that Horne Minister. Shri S.B. that the Govemment of Assam is solety Chavan, speaking in a Press Meet in responsible. After the incidents, the people Guwahati, in the presence of the Chief had to aborden their own houses to take Minister of Assarn, declared that this shelter in the camps. In the. carnps, there infiltration had created a havoc in the must be some sort of security. There was North-Eastern States whereas the Chief no security. So, this happened. And Minister of Assam says that there is no Hindu, Muslim, tribal and non-tribal infiltration. So, you will notice, where the questions have grown so much. There Govemment stands. Practically, there Is are many other things which are linked no correlation or coordination between with this incident. the State Govemment and the Central Govemment. As a result of this, this Recently, the Saikia Govemment took infiltration Is being denied by the State another step. The Saiki a Government Govemment. And this Is also another started to award pattas tl) people partlcularty 6n Adjoummenr Motion Re: SRAVANA 3.1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 678 to the char inhibitants. Generally the people different aspects of the issue like the of the State of Assam were of the opinion illegal migrants from different borders. that the awarding of pattas should be made the issue of different tribals and non- just after taking a decision or making an tribals etc. Sir. this is very much surprising investigation whether a man is a citizen of that this has not been taken up very the country or of the State. But without seriously though it is a very much tragic dOing this the Govemment of Assam started incident and a very serious matter. It awarding pattas. This also created should have been taken up by the resentment among the tribal and non-tribal Treasury Benches with all seriousness. people of the State. This is not a sOlitary incident. This is due to the wrong policy and My young friend from the Treasury wrong action of the Government and the Benches. Mr. Krip Chaliha has told a lot Government is solely responsible for all of things. he has touched all the aspects these things. At this stage. what I say is that and he has rather exposed the State the Government must take an attitude not Government in all respects. Mr. Krip of division and not of dividing the people but Chaliha has rightly said that the present to see as to how the problem can be solved. government· ..•

Lastly. though it is said that Similarly Mr. Chaliha has gone to punishing the culprit is not the solution the extent of charging' and the State yet in my opinion. at this stage. culprits Government is adopting all sorts of must be detected and punished so that methods. all sorts of tricks and all sorts such incidents do not occur in future. of games in order to woo different sections of the people. With these words. I conclude my speech. MR. SPEAKER: I will look into the record and that which cannot go on DR. MUMTAZ ANSARI (Kodarma): record will be removed from the record. Mr. Chairman. Sir. this is a tragic incident which has taken place in that part of the DR. MUMTAZ ANSARI: Sir. I am county which must be condemned by all saying whatever has been said. in the strongest words and in the strongest language. But it is very much surprising MR. SPEAKER: Let us speak as that at least 60 or 70 persons have been responsible Members of the House. killed in the refugee camps in Barpeta and at least 100 persons have been DR. MUMTAZ ANSARI: Sir. I am wounded and more people are reported telling the same thing that has been said to have been killed and dead. by the hon. Member.

19.10 hrs. The entire Govemment machinery has failed to protect the life and property [MR. SPEAKER in the Chait1 of the people-whoever they may be, either Muslims or Hindus or tribals or But stiD, the persons from the non-triblas, whatever may be their colour. Treasury Benches are also mixing up I do not dispute the fact that it is very

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[Dr. Mumtaz Ansari] to 5 thousand. Some 50,000 persons have fled from different villages. Sir, much tragic incident where the Home there is the rule of jungle there. The Minister has also dashed and he has also people are seeking refuge. They are assessed the alarming situation. Separate coming to shelter camps and refugee notes by both the Ministers of Home camps. They are coming under the Ministry have also been submitted to the umbrella of the State Government in Prime Minister saying that these are the order to get protection of life and property. realities, these are the incidents which It is surprising that the shooting spree have taken place. Similar1y the hon. is going on there also. In, such Member from the Treasury Benches who circumstances, where will the people go? is just inciting the feelings all over the country by such statements that North It is just lame excuse and it is very East region is burning is making such inhuman approach that the people say statements. These statements will just that they are the illegal migrants coming incite the feelings all over the country form across the border or coming form and in that case the whole of the country Bangladesh. There may be different other will be burning. So, let us refrain and let issues also. I do not dispute that. There us just abstain from such type of is the law of land and the law of land :>Iatements. We must see it with all is there to discriminate these illegal gravity and seriousness and in the right migrants coming from different other perspective as to how to stop the borders and the real inhabitants, those massacre and how to stop the mass real citizens of the country who are the killing and how to stop such type of tragic real inhabitants of the State. These are incidents which are taking place in that all separate issues. part of the country. But when the human beings are And, Sir, this is not the Single being killed, these people are not sensitive incident which has taken place. In enough and they are mixing up all the October, 1993 also some people were issues together. That is why, I say that killed in Kokrajhar and Bongaigaon this Saikia Government should not stay districts. Similar1y in the month of May, in power even for a single day more, 1994 at least 40-50 persons were killed because for a long time such type of by the 'Bodo Security Force'. I think a inhuman and tragic incidents are taking different nomenclature has been given to place in that part of the State on one them. So, these incidents show the pretext or the other. The State political willingness on the part of the Government is very much insensitive to State Government that the State all these issues. The State Government Government is not willing to control all has altogether failed in Its duty. The such types to incidents which are very State Government of Assam headed by much tragic in nature. Mr. Salkia has no moral authority, no moral right to continue in power. It Is the We see that the Chief Minister was primary duty of the State Government to also there at a distance of just 15 look after the law and order problem. It kilometres and the police guards were Is the primary responsIbiUty of the Central also posted in order to safeguard all Government also to look after the life and these persons who are HYing in the property of the people living in that part refugee camps. They number at feast 4 of the country. 681 Adjoumment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 682

MR. SPEAKER: Please conclude problems of tribals and non-triblas. There now. are certain issues relating to poverty and backwardness of the State in certain DR. MUMTAZ ANSARI: Sir, the parts of the State. So, the Central State Government has failed, the entire Government must attend to all these machinery has failed and the Central issues. They are the responsibilities of Government has also failed. The Central the Central Government. The Central Government is not foisting any Government cannot escape from all these responsibility on the State Govemment. responsibilities. Why is the Central The Central Government is aligning Govemment not invoking the provisions blatantly to carry on the Government of Article 356 of the Constitution? This there. type of a State Govemment has no moral right to continue in power. So, Article 356 Sir, the people who killed the of the Constitution there at a very short innocent people there are of such nature notice. and they should rather be hanged because they are just killing the people. So, this is my humble appeal that It is the primary duty and responsibility the Central Government must take action of the State Government to protect the and the State Government must be life and property of the people. But they dismissed summarily. The Central are rnaking discrimination and they are Govemment must also try to attend to trying to take political mileage. all these bubbling issues so that such type of tragic incidents do not take place MR. SPEAKER: Now, you helve to in the country again. conclude. Otherwise I am going to call other Members. [Translation]

DR. MUMTAZ ANSARI: Sir, I have SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR (Gopal- just started. ganj): Mr. Speaker, Sir, Shri Jaswant Singh ji delivered his speech. I have an MR SPEAKER: You come to the infatuation for the voice and dictum of rnain points; description is not necessary. Vajpayee ji. I was sitting here to listen to him but he did not speak. After all this one thing flashed in my mind. Babari DR. MUMTAZ ANSARI: There are Masjid was demolished. Vajpayee ji had many issues. regretted the incident and said in the House that it should not have happened. MR. SPEAKER: I do not rnint if you The demolition of mosque did not hurt touch the issues. m~ as much as the scene of deployment of army there. After watching it on TV, DR. MUMTAZ ANSARI: Sir, I am I asked to myseH what was happening concluding. here? What sort of Govemment is it? Same thing is being repeated today. You There are regional imbalances. The and these people will greatly benefit from Central Governrnent should try to remove this. We stand no where but what will all these regional imbalances. There are you do? I can tell you the way out. This certain tribal issues also. The Central is second such incident 'Aaye Aapke Government must try to solve all these Ghar Aur Wahan Hua Katie Aam'. In 683 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 684

[Shri Abdul Ghafoor) [Translation] some paper, I read that Shri Saikia while SHRI ABDUL GHAFOOR: This way, in the Circuit House was gheraoed by the blot on them will also be wasl:led off. people who enquired what the We removed them and we removed Govemment was upto? The bodyguards ourselves, too. With these words, I wam of Shri Saikia abandoned him. He had them and sit down. a very narrow escape. This is the prevailing law and order situation in the {English] country. What is happening today? President's rule is imposed on a State on petty excuses and the case is filed KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE before the Supreme Court. Two-three (Calcutta South): Sir, I oppose the text days back, I watched on TV some of the Adjournment Motion moved by military personnel saying that all our Shri Chandra Jeet Yadav. Ministers are corrupt. They apprehend the people and beat them up. It is Sir, I am grateful to you because happening everywhere. Why do not you you have given me this opportunity to dare to do something in this regard? express my view. Since everything has been said by the other Members, I am not going to discuss this issue in detail. While speaking Shri Jaswant Singh I wish to make only one observation. We ji had made a theme of the things. Shri condemn what has happened in Barpeta; Pilot and Shri Chavan are at logger- we condemn the massacre. Eariier also heads. Why do not you say anything. we have seen the Nellie incident and the Their Member said that a person like me Mandhai incident. Even in Shillong alSO, can not contest election. (Interruptions)" the same thing is going on. In Bihar also, eleven persons died. This is a very [English] serious matter. But the only problem is that wherever the Congress Government MR. SPEAKER: This is not going is in power, then all Opposition Party Members ask for the imposition of the on record. President's Rule under Article 356 and they also ask for their resignation, but [Translation] wherever they are in power, they would not criticise their Government. Whatever SHRr ABDUL GHAFOOR: Mr. we have to do, we have to do it Speaker. Sir, I give them a warning. consciously. That... (Interruptions)" .... May say it gently that they should be removed. In Assam, though everybody is criticising Shri Hiteshwar Saikia, we have to admit the point that Shri Heteshwar {English] Saikia is the man who has tried his best to restore normalcy ...... (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: This is also not You win say that nothing has been done going on record. because your Government is not there.

• Not rec:onSed. 685 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 686 If I say that so many things are happening to consider the infiltration problem that in Rajasthan, then you will not admit it. existed up to 1971 and what it is now. I am not politicizing it. According to our Constitution and agreement, we have to appreciate that What has happened in Barpeta is Pandit Nehru and Shri Liaquat Ali Khan a very serious thing. My first demand is in Pakistan and Mrs. Indira Gandhi and that the Home Ministry should investigate Sheikh Abdul Rahman have made some the matter through the CBI and find out pact and, according to that pact, those who are the leaders who have a who have come from Bangladesh upto relationship with the underground world. 25th March, 1971 were very much Indian. They have relations with the insurgent They are not foreigners. So, do not leaders, the Mafia gangs and those who compare them with people who are have the money power, especially the staying there from 75 years or 100 years muscle power of the insurgent world. and 25 years. They are not foreigners. There are some political leaders who If there are some problems of infiltration, have got good relations with those people then Government can take over the issue and that is why, sometimes, the political with Bangladesh Government and with leaders due to their vested interests other Governments. mislead the people and create these problems. The House will be surprised to know that in the North Eastem region, So, I request the hon. Minister to specially the minorities are a problem. investigate into the matter and if you see They do not have right to property. Even anybody, however big a leader he may women and children are not spared. I be, if he indulges in insurgency, he have seen this in Nagaland, Arunachal should be punished and he should not Pradesh and Assam. We have to look be rewarded and he should not be after the problems of different tribals and allowed to contest the election. remove their problems.

Of course, I was told that they are {Translation] using modem equipments. In Barpeta also, they have used the rocket and SHRI DAU DA VAL JOSHI (Kota): other modern equipment. Assam In 1971, there were only 35,000 Government did not have the modem Bangladeshis here. Under Nehru-Liaquat equipment. Assam is a very poor State. agreement, there were only 35,000 Tripura is a very poor State. Bangladeshis and today 3 lakhs of them have intruded into the North-Eastem I request the Government that when region. What do you have to say about State Government has declared it a it? disturbed area, ~ Central Government should hand over this area to the army KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: with full authority so that army should Why are you crying? I do not know. control the situation. Every Bangladeshi is not a bad character. You should know this. Those who • Shri Inder Jit has said that it is migrated to Indian during 1971, came because of infiltration. Of course, there under the Indira Gandhi-Mujib-ur-Rehman is some Infiltration problem. But you have pact and not because your party wished 687 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alannlng Situation In.Assam 688

[Kumari Mamata Bane~ee] ago 11 people were bumt alive in Bihar. Why do not you seek the resignation of that. You must understand that it is CI Bihar Govemment. You must be fair but sensitive subject, whether it is so or not. when it affects your party, y~ will keep I do not know wherefrom he has procured mum and raise a hue and cry in the these statistics. matters In which our party is involved. This is not a party matter. I would like [English] to speak the truth only. I would request to hand over the disturbed area to the MR. SPEAKER: You do not have anny. to reply please. [English] [Translation] There is a feeling among the tribal people that and KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: I more more develcpmentaJ should be carried in their agree that the problem of infiltration is works out areas. They have a feeling that they are more serious in the North-Eastem States. isolated from the mainstream. People But another factor that should not be should not get this feeling. Secondly, the ignored is that the people who have anny people should get the full migrated under the Indira Gandhi-Mujib- power and authority so that the lives of the ur-Rehman pact during 1971 war or at minorities can be protected there. The the time of Nehru-Uaquat Pact should be Govemment should give compensation entitled to Property rights and right to live to the families of those who had died. here. It should be examined as to how, The Govemment should rehabilitate the why and when Bangladeshi people came families of those who had died. I must over to India. I am not talking about the say one thing to the Minister. In the present. You should not make a case of the ULFA people, those who have discussion in this regard. surrendered, they are getting Rs. two lakhs. But in the case of these people [English] who had died, who fought for the country, their families are not getting one rupee. MR. SPEAKER: You do not get Their families have not yet been delayed. You proceed with your speech. rehabilitated. I think the Govemment should change the policy and Government [Translation] should rehabilitate the famWes of those people who died for the sake of the SHRI RAJENDRA AGNIHOTRI country. (Jhansi): What have you to say about their number rising from a mere 35,000 Sir, I do not want to elaborate to 3 lakh? Who is responsible for that? much because there are so many speakers who want to speak, I think, our KUMAR I MAMATA BANERJEE: country Is a vast country. Different types You are responsble and your poIitlca Is of people are staying In this country, responsible for that. It is because of Somebody may be a Hindu, a MusHm, poIItIdsing every issue. You want the a BengalI, • BIhari and a Maharashtrtan. Government of Assam to resign for what Somebody may belong to other has happened at 8arpeta but two days community. But we have .. to live 689 Adjoumment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 690 together. We are Indians. We have to be massacre is a clear indication to the fact Indians. We have to strengthen our that the Govemment has totally failed in country. That is why I think this this matter and the Congress is itself Adjoumment Motion should be withdrawn. advocating the handing over of the area We have to strengthen the hands of the to the army. I would like to say that in State Government. The Central such a situation where the Govemment Government should give all sorts of has failed miserably, why President's rule assistance to the State Government so is not being imposed there? How long that the State Government can curb the can we remain silent spectators of the terrorist activities immediately. If it is not loss of human lives there? done, if the Government is going to indulge in this type of a thing, then, I only want to say in this matter everywhere this type of people would that enough is enough and the come up and create havoc. You know Govemment must take some steps. Such about the politicians. They are playing incidents are repeatedly taking place in vote politics. They are doing this for their Assam. I feel that such incidents are a own vested interests. This type of a thing stigma on humanity and these should be is going on. Ultimately, the people are stopped by taking drastic steps. suffering most. That is why, the political leaders should not be spared in this type SHRIMATI BIBHU KUMARI DEVI of an activity. (Tripura East): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to oppose this Adjoumment Motion. But With these words, I conclude. I am today we have to analyse the situation grateful to you because you have given of the North-East from the national angle me this opportunity to speak. At the and from the point of view of security of same time, I request the Minister to look the country. Therefore, this House has into the matter seriously so that this type a collective responsibility towards the of an incident cannot occur. Indian people. Every time I read of these holocausts, I am reminded of the [Translation) 6th June, 'Mandai Massacre' that we had suffered in my State in 1980. It was in SHRI SULTAN SALAHUDDIN 1980 and I remember it because Mrs. OWAISI (Hyderabad): Mr. Speaker, Sir, Gandhi was then alive and I remember whatever happened is very deplorable having had a lot of discussion with her and these incidents should be with regard to this problem, I have seen condemned. And when Shri Rajesh Pilot how both the communities had suffered went there, there was a report in the then. When we discuss these things here newspapers that it happened due to lack in this House. It becomes an issue for of communication as a result of that every party. It becomes a personal issue information could not be received on time for those who want to promote one which worsened the situation there. Now community or the other. And as my friend the question arises why all this is Shri Kirip ChaJia has said, in politics, a happening there when a Govemment new trend has come where political very much exists there? On the other benefit is also derived by using these hand, it is being said that Bangladeshis communal proble~ for personal benefits. have infiltrated. The question is who I have spoken earlier in this House with allowed them to infiltrate and how did regard to the problems Qf the tribals. they infiltrate to all. Then the subsequent Why has this problem come up? Why 691 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 692

[Shrimati Bibhu Kumari Devil the same time, you had a commitment, the Indian Constitution has a commitment has this problem become such a buming to settle tribals, landless tribals and the issue? My friend Shri Inder Jit earlier has Jhumias on their own land. said that they do not want another Tripura to be repeated. Tripura was a tribal State, tribal majority State and Their land was taken first to settle today we have to literally to beg for our immigrants or people who had just come in; they were not even immigrants; they own seats, either it goes to insurgency as some political regional parties have were also people who had walked into started which is bad for the nation, which the State. I must stress again and again that it is not against certain groups or is bad for the State, which is bad for the certain classes of people; but it is for the country and which is bad for our national image seen fingers of little children being national interest. Today in Tripura we crushed, I have seen women whose have no rehabilitation Department. Since 1961 there is no rehabilitation Department. hands have been hacked, I have seen You are spending only As. 80,000 on the young men who have become handless. refugees in Tripura, the erstwhile East At the same time, wherever the Bengal refugees. I do not know what opportunity has arisen it has happened West Bengal is getting. In Dandakaranya to the other side also, maybe in a lesser for twelve thousand people you are degree. Our Govemment must recognise spending crores and crores of rupees. this fact. This House must recognise the Where does that money go? That means fact that whichsoever Government comes there is no coordination among the Home, to power that for the sake of the vote the Law, the Agricultllfe and the RD banks, we cannot sacrifice national Departments. As per the All India Land interest. Reforms Act there was a certain ceiling on land. That ceiling limit is not applicable In Tripura, in 1949 when it merged in places like Tripura where one family with the Indian Union, there was a can take 50 acres of land because it take reservation made by the then in the wife's name, wife's mother's name, Government, the erstwhile princely State etc. I was the Revenue Minister there for a 1960 square miles of tribal reserve and therefore I went in depth into this and it was impiemented in 1974 during problem. You find that people just got the time of Mrs. Gandhi. She was first their lands transferred, a system which advised by the Government to remove does not exist in the State, the Bargadar this reservation and mind you, in all the system coming from West Bengal. We manifestos of the State Government, the have all the non-tribal population forced promises that were given to the tribal on the State. people were that this 1960 square miles of territory which was reserved and today which has becomE;! the scheduled reserve Recently I had brought about the area would be theirs. In the meantime, Sixth TLR amendment. Our people do we allowed infiltrators to enter there. not even know why It was passed They had already captured the unanimously by both the parties. It was administration, they were more educated, a welcome proposition. But, for four economically better off. Tribal lands were years It kept hanging over here. It has acquired for rehabilitation of the non- been sent back by the President or was tribals. Therefore, bitterness started. At recalled. I do not know why. It was for 693 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 694 helping those tribals whose lands have own forces. We have got educated young been alienated and to ensure that the boys; we do not have job opportunities transfer of land would not become easy. there; we do not have industries there; The present Government there has now we have a different style of life; not a made it easy. I did not allow any mortgage single person has been recruited. I have to any institution, any company. My suggested that instead of giving profits friends over here can influence their to the contractors and politicians and Government in this regard. Why are whoever they may be, why do not we these poor people being used? raise about a hundred battalions?

The Bodo problem is a similar The people, who know the problem. They have become terrorists topography of the area, who are the trying to protect their own lives. They people of the region, if recruited naturally have been called insurgents when they feel involved in the national activities of were trying to protect their lives. They trying to protect the borders. That is one are not educated. Their livelihood depends of my suggestions. That way, we can on land. They get their food from that seal our border. We will be spending while a non-tribal has some occupation; about Rs. 15 crore. But you will spend either he is a caste based man or he more than that by putting up barbed wire. has got some education or he has got You cannot put up barbed wire through some training with regard to putting up jungles. We have about 10,000 Naga a shop and getting some sort of boys who are graduates just sitting idle. employment. So we must be rational We must not forget the fact that in the about it and look at it from that angle. whole world, the intemational politics has I have also suggested to the Home changed. The polity of small nation theory Ministry time and again ... has come up. We have seen the Soviet Union breakup. People are conscious of [Translation] their ethnic identity. A Bengali say, ·Yes, Bengali is my language." A tribal says, SHRI HARCHAND SINGH (Ropar): "Khasi is my language. Why should I not Mr. Speaker, Sir, lands have been taken be allowed to speak in that language? away from princes; poor farmers have Why should I not be allowed to dress not been divested of their lands. myself in that dress?" So, these are psychological motivations for any nation {English] to come up. A Bengali today is proud of Deshbandhu Chittaranjan Das. He is SHRIMATI BIBHU KUMARI DEVI: proud to Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose. We have a long boundary. I met the He is proud of Rabindranath Tagore. He State Home Minister. I have made is proud of the whole galaxy of great enquiries and found out that more than people. That is one of the reasons that 50 percent of our Border Security Forces the Bengalis will think of the tow Bengals have been moved to Kashmir. Our border uniting one day. Of course, that is from outposts are very thinly manned. West Bengal. I would not say that of East According to the Home Ministry budget Bengal: this year no amount was spent or anything invested for the last five years on the MR. SPEAKER: I do not think that Assam Rifles. One should have one's is necessary. It will go off the record.

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SHRIMATI BIBHU KUMARI DEVI: this adjournment motion as it is very Another thing which, I think, we should important on the part of the Government all be sensitive to is that for the last 17 to be accountable to this highest forum to 18 years, the tribals, who come from of democracy in our country. across Bengladesh, have been living in camps. They are given a teaspoon of oil The Govemment of India is fully and terrible rations. When the immigrants aware of the fact that such things are come or the infiltrators come, there is happening in Assam. First it was in 1993. somebody to take care of them here. Again Sir, within a period of one and a They are not put in a jail. Today, we are half months, three massacres have taken driving them back without giving any place. The first one was on May 27 when guarantee to their customary personal the Bodo extremists attacked villages in law, their religion Of any thing. Therefore, Kokhrajhar killing 27 people and maiming they come back again. We are pushing several people. Twenty five thousand the Chakmas back again. So, this creates families were rendered homeless. I would a feeling of injustice from the Government like to ask the hon. Minister of State for side. I am sure, the House also Internal Security one thing. Having known appreciates this fact. These are some of the situation in Assam and the attacks the things which I have raised now. But of Bodo extremists in recent past, well I think, the time has come for us to set in advance why did not the hon. Minister our house in order and seriously analyse himself visit there? the problems of this insurgency, the problem of terrorism. Why should it happen in a free india, in a country which It is a known fact that the State has believed in Gandhian pnnciples, a Government of Assam has miserably country which has secular principles? I failed in protecting the lives and property definitely and most unhesitating by of innocent people and the Administration cOl'ldemn the heinous killings of Barpeta. has failed in discharging their duties. And I hope that some of my suggestions will it was not once! It happened several be taken note of. There have been very times. The Govemment should also have many valuable suggestions coming from known the fact that in the Bodo Act the opposition as well as from my own passed by the Assam Government in party. 1963, there are two very important provisions. One provision is regarding SHRI E. AHAMED (Manjeri): Mr. minorities that in the Bodo autonomous Speaker, Sir, at the outset, I also share land, the life and property of the minorities the views given expression to by my hon. should be given protection and in the colleagues condemning what has event of the failure of the concerned happened in Assam. Whatever happened authority to protect the life and property in Assam was not only a mere law and of the minorities, the Govemment has order problem. It was a challenge to the the power to dissolve the Council. No very ethos of our country, the spirit of protection was given to the citizens of the co-existance and also th3 rule of law for Bodoland area. I do not want to commu- which we have been proud about, in this nalise the issue. Since there is a provision country. towards the protection of the minorities, is it not the duty of the Governor to I may take this opportunity to pay dissolve that Council in the event of a compliment to you, Sir, for admitting failure to give protection? And is it not 697 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 698 the duty of the Central Government to to it only because it is a fact. I do not direct the State Government accordingly? like to refer to such matters with any sort of communal overtones or feelings. But it is a fact that hapless minorities have The second massacre has taken been massacred. It is a fact that Hindus place on July 17 in Barpeta district to also helped Muslims. It has been pointed which many hon. Members have referred. out by Shri Kirip Chaliha. Therefore, Therefore, I avoid repetition and I do not there is a lapse incident on the part of want to go into the details. Even then, Assam administration. what actually happened? I do not want to hold Shri Saikia or anybody personally responsible. But as the Chief Minister I do not want to take much of the and as the head of the Government, is valuable time of the House. Many hon. it not his duty to keep the Central Members have referred to the Bodo Government informed of the matter and Issue, the problem of ethnic feelings and ask for the help of the Army? Why did how all this has happened and so on and the State Government, or for that matter so forth. I do not want to go into all those even the Central Government, wait till the detaiis. Ministers from Delhi flew into Assam to see and arrange for the military support? But what is the guarantee that the Had there been military support earlier Minister will be able to assure tne House and had there been timely action, this that such things will not happen in unfortunate massacre would not have future? He should also enlighten the happened. Well, Mr. Inder Jit would say House what steps he has taken in this that they are foreigners. I deny it. Even regard. One thing is certain that the Shri Chaliha and other hon. Members in people of that State-I am mainly referring the treasury benches have denied it. For to the minority communities-have lost argument's sake, even if those people the confidence in the State Government were foreigners, should they be killed like not because it is a personal matter but that? Is it not quite an uncivilised manner because of the act of omission and of doing things? Should such events commission on the part of the State occur in a country like India? Have they Government. not damaged our prestige and tarnished our image in the comity of nations? Should we not behave in a responsible Sir, with these few words I once manner? It is not a matter whether the again appeal to everybody in the country Muslims are killed or Hindus are killed to be aware of this sort of act of terrorism or Bodos are killed. First of all. such which is being indulged in by certain things should not have happened. We people. The Government should be very must see to it that they shall never occur careful in tackling these things and should again. The third massacre happened take appropriate and urgent measures to yesterday at relief camp, killing 72 give protection to every citizen, particularly persons, quite horrible. the minorities in this country.

It is an undisputed fact that a THE MINIST!;R OF STATE OF cluster of villages where the minorities THE MINISTRY OF STEEL (SHRI have been predominantly residing were SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): Mr. Speaker, burnt down. It is a fact and I am referring Sir, several hon. Members from different 699 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 700

[Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev] assimilate ourselves culturally, politically and also mentally with the national feeling. parties have participated in this debate. Being a North-Eastern Member myself I Jaswant Singhji made fi\1e pOints in was just thinking what is our status in his speech and he referred to emotional the national scenario. The discussion that separation and distance. Emotionally the has taken place so far has highlighted people of North-East are separated from one thing, that the situation on North- the rest of the country. I think in a very East is very bad and the political parties very emotional and harsh word and their leaders in North-East are totally Shahabuddinji has also referred to it. corrupt and they are unable to run the Maharani Bibhu Devi has mentioned that State. in tribal and non-tribal areas are lakhs and lakhs of unemployed people. My good friend Jaswant Singhji has brought out an analogy ~hat after 20.00 hrs. Independence the North-Eastern States have been mostly ruled by the Congress There are elements from outside and, therefore, Congress is basically who tell them and give them an idea that responsible for the situation that is if their problem is not solved, let them prevailing there now. It is a fact that in take to arms. That is the only solution. Assam we also had Janta Party rule As one of my colleagues. Mr Kirip and the rule of AGP, a regional party. Chaliha himself being a Congress Similarly in Mizoram we had the rule of Member-maybe out of pain - has also Shri Laldenga, CPM and Congress ruled said that taking arms into the hands has the Tripura and other regional parties become one of the fashions in the North- ruled the State of Manipur. So, it is Eastern States and it is more easier to something unpalatable to identify the earn than to ask for a job. How are the Congress as a villain in the North-East. national parties and national leaders going I would say that is a total injustice to the to solve this problem? This is the issue party. of today. There is no denying the fact that after so many years Independence the During Nelli incident myself, Mr. situation in North-East is not the one Rajesh Pilot, along with some journalists which is desirable and it will be wrong and other, reached there within four or to identify the Congress Party as the five hour. We had seen that people were culprit for it. The people of North-Eastern killed and thrown out there. They were States have time and again changed the saying that as foreigners they were Government . On the floor of this House attacked. They were saying that you see I have even heard my friend Jaswant the mango trees. The age of the rnango SinghP' saying that during the Assam trees is as old as theirs. The age of the agitation he was made to liaison on mango trees is more than fifty years or behalf of his Party with the agitationists. fifty-five years. But because they are In the last week he also said that as one speaking Bengali or because they are of the Advisors he gave them the Muslims or Hindu, they are considered opportunity to come to power and rule as refugees or foreigners. the State. I am not against AGP or any other party. Being a North-Eastern Now, the leader of the Bharatiya Member I must say that we must Janta Party, Mr. Vajpayee has also 701 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 702

encouraged me to speak here. But I They said, 'no'. They said that the quite oombly ask Mr. Vajpayee, one students are saying that there are people "'I:fuestion. Mr. Jaswant Singh has reiterated who come from Orissa and Bihar and it today also. The people who had come they stayed there as foreigners. This is to Assam, after 1971, if they were an overall thinking of certain regional Hindus, they must get the voting rights parties. Are we going to adjust to that and they must stay there permanently. situation? I do not think so. Today. there The muslims must be thrown out. An is an allegation against the Chief Minister analogy has been brought forward today of Assam. The Chief Minister of Assam by Mr. Jaswant Singh that they being the must resign. Mr. Hiteshwar Saikai has refugees should be given their rights. failed. The incident which had happened Does his stand not lead to irritation with is one of the worst incidents that had the muslims? You may also be thinking ever happened. But does the Chief that I am telling something against the Minister leaving the State Capital and interests of the Hindus. As Mr. staying in a camp after the incidents Shahabuddin has said that you must also which had happened after 19th not prove see that if the Congress says that all the that there is a problem? There is failure muslims are foreigners, we are committing of the administration. As Mr. Rajesh Pilot a mistake. Today, in Nagaland, in the said. as the Congress Party. we never voters' list, if your title is 'Roy', your name failed to admit that we have not been will be deleted. But there are so many able to protect those who are in the 'Roys'. Who are Khasis you can ask the camps. Definitely there are some failures. • Chairman of the Panel who is here; that But under what circumstances? Do you a retired Chief Secretary whose title is mean to say that it is intentional? As Mr. also 'Roy' his name had also been Shahabuddin has said that the Chief deleted. The enumerators thought that Minister of Assam is playing one group he was a Bengali. In Assam, there are with the other. If you say that the Assam 'Bhattacharyas' who are Assamese. Their Govemment should resign, first let the names were being deleted. In North- 10 MLAs of the BJP resign. You show Eastern States, the Bangali-Hindu and us the way. Muslims are being treated in a manner 'which is creating irritation among the You show us the way. Resignation tribals. The Prime Minister formed a nine- is not the solution. I was a Member of Member Committee, consisting of the Parliament in 1980 when the Dinesh following Ministers viz., Mr. S.B. Chavan, Committee Report was submitted here. Mr. Pranab Mukherjee. Dr. Manmohan Many MPs in this House said that the Singh. Mr. A.K. Anthony. myself, Mr. CPM Government should resign. Mrs. Margaret AI'¥i and so on. We had toured Indira Gandhi said, ~Resignation is not that place. There is a talk that the Centre the solution. That is the elected is neglecting them. The mandate was to Government; it must be fhere. With their look at the tribal problem vis-a-vis non- help, we must solve the problem." That tribals. An hon. Member from Manipur should be the attitude of the debate. This was also there. I think he is present here. debate is not to score any point against lOne of the former Chief Ministers came any individual. and told us that there are foreigners in Manipur and they must be evicted. We If Mr. Saikai is to be removed, it said. 'yes', but that will be done according is the prerogative of the State Government to our policy from viz. 25th March. 1971. and the State Congress to decide, not 703 Adjoumment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 704

[Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev] Mr. Jaswant Singh has rightly said that the Kashmir Government is probably by telling that Saikia is guilty. You hold taking control over the situation there. an enquiry. If it is proved that he is guilty, They have done it better than in the past. then you remove him. We will be too In Punjab, we have proved it that we can pleased. When Mizoram agreement was do it. Now, this thing is being shifted to signed Mr. Lalthamhawla resigned. Then Assam. This is an issue in which all the election was held there. Mr. Laldanga parties should join together and solve this was in power. Mr. Saikia was there problem. Assam in 1983. After the Assam Accord, he resigned. I do not want to go into the Again I shall appeal to you, not as details of these Accords. But we never, a Minister but as one belonging to the as the Congress Party, tried to stick to North-Eastem region, that it is high time power for the sake of power. Naturally, that all political parties either under your any political party will try to rule the leadership and guidance or with the help country. But the basic that problem is the of the Prime Minister should sit and forces which are operating there from decide about it, not by identifying which outside the country, they are trying to put political party is guilty and which political Nagas against Kookies. When I was party is not guilty. I am not one of those there, Mr. Inder Jit was in Nagaland. who want that any national party, whether People came and told us that one group it is BJP or CPI or CPM or Congress, was fighting against another. When they will try to see that Assam or the North- were brought to the pOlice station they Eastern region should go in that way. Let said that they had received training in us forget what regional parties said; let Bangladesh. I come from one part of us come together and try to see that it Assam. It was told by my mother Mrs. should be decided once for all. Indira Gandhi that it was an island of peace. Just two days ago, the gun of one One of the bogies in Assam today guard of the BJP MLA-BJP Members of is that is being wasted in all the States. Parliament will bear me out-was If you go to any Ministry and ask for rice, snatched, which never happened before. they will say. "Why should we give rice?· Ultimately, the people chased them along It will go to Bangladesh." If you go as with the police and caught them. What an Assam MP or Tripura MP and ask do they say? I do not know whether Mr. for money for Tripura, they say, "Money Rajesh Pilot will agree with me. is being wasted." That is not a fact. It may be a fact that some of us are corrupt. I may be corrupt. You need not Mr. Speaker, Sir, you have done be. If I am corrupt and you can prove a right thing by allowing this debate. it, then you can say that Mr. Sontosh Those people who were arrested said Mohan Dev has no authority to stay with that 22 boys from Manipur went to the Central Government. If any Minister Bangladesh and received training, They is corrupt, you remove him. But for that, came back. They also divulged that don't punish the people of North-Eastern Bengalies from Meghalaya and Manipur region. If you say that we are all Muslims-as admitted by Mr. Syed corrupt-as he has said-without proving Shahabuddin-had gone to Bengladesh. it, then this will not help. If there is They were trying to create trouble all corruption, there is a system to identify over the North-Eastern region. It. 705 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1.916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 706

But the same corruption is starving it is true. By taking this on the first day Assam and other North-Eastern region itself a message has gone to the out of funds. It is a volcanic situation. distressed people of Barpeta that this I do not want to dispute anybody. They august House has given importance to have said their point of view. As a man them. from Assam, I am grateful to the present P'ime Minister that he has formed a All of us condemn these killings. committee. I do not want to share all that Whoever is guilty must be punished. We we have said, but we are submitting our are distancing the North-East as Shri report to the Prime Minister. Jaswant Singh has said. He has gone to the North-East and he knows about A booklet was presented to us in it. So I appeal to you that let us take Nagaland, demanding greater Nagaland a decision that we will come together to to be formed. I have passed it on to the solve the problem of North-East, going officer in charge in the Home Ministry above party level, not identifying who is that it should be enquired into. This is at fault and who is not. All political parties what is happening. All of us must come have their share. If there is a fault it together. belong to the national and regional parties; if there is a credit it goes to the people Shri Rajesh Pilot has visited the of North East. But I can say from the spot very quickly. It was so quick that North Eastern side that till now 80 to 90 he forget to call me. I came to know percent people of the North East are about this when he reached there. But nationalist. They do not belive in these he has taken a prompt action. He has regional activities. visited the site and he will tell about the incident. I do not want to go into all this. We have met many professors, we I only want to draw the attention of the have met many Government officers and House that, let us not try to say that Shri they have given us very valuable Sailaa is bad or so and so is good. suggestions. What Shri Jaswant Singh Removing Shri Saikia will not solve your has said, was also discussed in Manipur. problem. Another Saikia will come from They said let there be a Monitoring the Congress or somebody else may Committee from the Centre in each State come. That is not the solution. to see that every penny that comes is utilised properly. They are not saying that SHRI SRIKANTA JENA (Cuttack): do it, they are saying monitor it, especially The Congress is full of Saikias. because in the North Eastern States we (Interruptions) ~t 90 percent as grant and 10 percent as loan. We are being looked after. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN OEV: I would like to appeal to this august House With these words, I again appeal to as a man from North East, I am extremely everybody that do not treat us from North- greatful to the hon. Speaker that he has East as if we are your bad children. I am given the first day Itself for discussion on sample from the North-East. We are here,· this subject. Thereby you yourself have we have certain black spots. We have sent a message to the North-East that certain things which you must correct and . the Partiament of this country is not for that we need your blessings, we need .neglecting them. I am not flattering, Sir, your guidance. We do not want you to 07 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 708

,hri Sontosh Mohan Dev] accountable to the SAC for their perfonnance and the assessment ~primand us. We do not want you to tell of their work recorded by the SAC s to go to hell. Call us, we will sit with authorities .. " (Interruptions) , :>u and discuss with you. Let there be a abate other than this. Mr. Speaker is SHRI RAJESH PILOT: Kindly see ressing me to finish, otherwise I would the next sentence, which says: " .. and ave spoken more. the assessment of their work recorded by the BAC authorities, win be I am grateful to you for giving me incorporated to their ACRs by the State lance, Sir. Government.'

SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA AO VADDE (Vijaywada): Mr. Speaker, RAO VADDE: What I would like to notice ir, thank you for giving me this of the hon. Minister of State is this. You Jportunity to participate in the discussion. clearly dema~ate whose responsibility is will take only three minutes. to protect the law and order situation in the Bodo Autonomous Council area. Does Several hon. Members have made it come under the State Government? If 3veral points, with which I agree. Sir, the the Bodo Autonomous Council been lain intention with which I have taken this entrusted with the development and giving Jportunity is to support the Adjoumment protection to the people of that area, lotion moved by Shri Chandra Jeet Yadav naturally it must be with the Bodo 'ld to express serious concern on behalf Autonomous Council. This is what I ! our Party to the victims and to condemn would like to bring to the notice of the Ie heinous crimes committed by the Minister. lilitants belonging to Bodo Security Force. ere, the most important thing which The second main point which I lakes us feel very bad is that presence would bring to the notice of this House , the hon. Chief Minister and near1y two- is-Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev has also lirds of his Cabinet Members, who were mentioned about this-that a good number st 15 kilometres away from the scene, of youth is being influenced by lSI or )uld not prevent this incident. And that some other organisations or some other 00, for nearly two hours, this killing spree agencies working from outside the as going on, there was nobody to protect country. They are unemployed and it is Ie unfortunate people, who were there in the poor condition, which is influencing Ie camp. Sir, this is the most them. ,"demnable thing. Here, I would like to :>int out two things. Firstly, in this Bodo Though the Annual Plan for Assam ceord, which was signed, I find in this has been fixed by the Planning vii and police services, nowhere it has Commission at Rs. 960 crore, nearly a 3en stated, whose responsibility is to sum of Rs. 700 crore has been deducted rotect the law and order. " is merely towards the amount due In the previous sted here, I quote: years, leaving only a sum of Rs. 200 to Rs. 300 crore to the Assam Govemment "The officers posted to the Bodo for developmental work of the whole Autonomous Council areas wIU be State. Now, will h be suffident? Now, one 709 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 710

more very a:arming pOint is that though Eastern Region. Those causes must be a sum of Rs. 25 crore has been found out. There are many reasons why earmarked for flood relief programme, a the Bodas are not satisfied with the sum of Rs. 24.6 crore has been deducted Accord. The Accord is neither satisfying for the earlier dues of the State the Bodo nor the people of Assam. This Government. My submission to the has confused the people of the Assam. Central Government is this. Kindly have I want to say that this is the direct fall a rethinking over this matter and postpone out of the Accord. The Central the collection of these dues and allow Government as well as the OppOSition substantial amount with the Government Parties are trying to pass the back to the of Assam and also the Autonomous State Government. The State Government Council to really develop the area. Just with the limited paramilitary forces are forming the Bodo Autonomous Council fighting against all odds of the extremists will not do any help to the Bodos or non in Assam. There are extremists in ULFA, Bodos in the Autonomous Council area. NSCN, there are Bodo extremists and You must provide necessary funds for there are other communal and regional their real progress and development, forces. With the limited forces how can which alone, at least to some extent, will the State Government manage all these not make these unemployed youth to fall things. It is difficult to manage unless the prey to the designs of this anti-national Central Government sends the element. I only suggest that an All Party Paramilitary forces there. delegation may go to this place and enquire into these happenings and again Again, I want to cite an example. report to your goodself. The Punjab is having 350 companies of paramilitary forces whereas in Assam Sir, I congratulate you for admitting there are only 50 companies. That is not this Adjournment Motion on the very first sufficient. There are 21 roads to the day of this Session. Bhutan border from the Bodo land through which the Bodo extremists operate. The SHRI BALIN KULI (Lakhimpur): Mr. State Government has asked the Central Speaker, Sir, I rise to oppose this Government to seal this route with Bhutan Adjournment Motion of the Opposition. border years ago. But, it has not been done so far. So, the Assam Government or the paramilitary forces are not able to It is a very sad thing that had check the extremists. happened in Assam. We are ashamed for it and it is a shame for the democracy. The House is discussing this today and Some hon. Members particularly the hon. Members are also expressing Shri Jaswant Singh have expressed their their concern. We are also expressing feelings that the people of North-Eastern the same concern about the matter. The Region are corrupt. The meaning of the hon. Members failed to mention one word 'Corruption' has a wide dimension. thing and that is the diagnostic reason He has properly explained whether the for such happenings again and again. people of North-Eastern Region are Shri Inder Jit and Shrimati Bibhu Kumari sexually corrupt or monetarily or socially Devi have analysed this problem. There corrupt. Though Shri Santosh Mohan are reasons why the tribals are dissatisfied Dev has replied to it properly, yet the and there is an uprising in the North- North-East~m Region is yet to find people 711 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 712

(Shri Balin Kuli] Congress Party and the Government of Assam are fighting against all odds. If it like Tulmohan Ram and V. Ramaswamy, is not supported by the national parties about whom the House had discussed. and by this House, then Shri Salida alone They are not from the North-Eastern cannot fight against all these things. Region. The people of the North-Eastem Region are learning corruption from the Sir, I appeal to the Members of the people of this part of the country. The hon. House and all the political parties lAS Officers; the IPS Officers, not to speak of dissolving the House or businessmen, administrators and suspension of the Assembly and they Governors are all from this part of the should rather help the State Government country. The people of the North-Eastem and support the State Govemment to Region are learning corruption, if any, fight out all these external forces in from these people only. If you being out keeping Assam with India. these people then only you can see whether the North-Eastem people or the tribal people are corrupt or honest. With these words, I conclude.

The other thing Shri Chanora Jeet (English) Yadav has also said that the Assam Government has given crores of rupees, MR. SPEAKER: I think we had this cars, business and employment to the discussion for sufficiently long time. There murderers. are tow or three names with me and I would like to allow them to speak. But It is also not fair to allege such I request them to be very brief. Shri things against the Assam Government. Shibu Soren to speak now.

The democratically elected [Translation) Government of Assam cannot be dissolved or suspended for one incident or the other. If this Congress Government SHRI SHIBHU SOREN (Dumka): under the leadership of Shri Saikia is Mr. Speaker, Sir, the incident that took functioning, it is functioning under heavy place on 23rd in Barpeta in Assam is odds. This Government is protecting the related to tribals. I am also a tribal and minorities. This Government is fighting the people have elected us to solve such against corruption, against extremist problems. forces and for the national interest. It is Shri Salkia who is standing like a rock It is not true that the State ..iost all odds fighting for the cause of Government had no information regarding the nation. such a serious incident, whatever takes place In the villages is known to somebody He is not helped by the other or the other. Therefore, there is the need national parties like the B.J.P. wbich is to go Into the root 'of the problem. dMdIng the people In Assam between Bodo/and Autonomous Council was . Hindus and Muslims. The other regional recently set up there to bring peace and party like the A.G.P. is also there; It for making development of the area and wants to separate Assam from India. The to avoid such serious incidents. The facts 713 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 714

relating to it have been suppressed and of entire details in this regard. Merely no actual picture is being presented. making speeches in the House will not Problems and strategies are extensively serve any purpose. Tribals are totally discussed by the tribals in the villages. dependent on forests. After forests were out, the tribals started making use of In 1982, I visited Assam. I am a such land for agriculture purposes, but Santhal and many Santhals of Dumka, the crooked elements got the lands Ranchi and Orissa for the last 100 years registered in their names. Though many have been living in Assam. There I had laws were enacted, yet not a single one got a chance to interact with the local proved effective. After every incident the people for a week or 10 days. Educated Govemment officials visit the site and youth of the area expressed their hold discussions, but nothing happens. A discontent and all of them stressed only paltry sum of Rs. 1,000 or Rs. 2,000 are one thing that the Government is paid as compensation. It has been deliberately not solving their problems. happening in the country till date. The The Government is neither giving them tribals do flOt want any other thing, but their rights nor providing them with jobs. to join the mainstream. On being enquired from many. qualified youth about their intentions, all of them MR, SPEAKER: You are raising a expressed their disappointment by saying question, which is time-consuming. that now there seems to be no way out.

Jharkhandis in Bihar are also iacing SHRI SHIBU SOREN: Sir, I am not similar problems i.e. development of the taking much of your time. Nobody wants area and returning of their lands as the to discuss our problems. Even after tribals of Bihar have no other means of getting educated the tribals are living. The tribals cannot enter into trade unemployed. The tribals of (;>oe village and business and also do not have are being benefited, but of other villages ample employment opportunities. Though are not being given any benefits. If you for name sake reservation is there in the say that tribals and non-tribals have done State Government and in the Centre anything wrong, you must prove it. Govemment jobs yet no adequate follow Injustices being meted out to the tribals up action is being taken. Earlier it was should come to an end. Every believed that with education, employment Govemment speaks about the problems avenues will open us. However, now of the mbals. I would liKe to know what even after getting educated jobs are not are these? If problems are there, then in sight. Therefore, discontentment is these should be solved. Problems like prevailing. I think this is the reason why Bodoland will surface all O'ler the country the youth of the area have taken such which cannot be stopped. From where a wrong step. In the entire country justice AK-47 rifles are coming to kill the people. has not been done with the tribals. Tiibals are less educated and less Everywhere, whether it be Rajasthan, intelligent. Simply supplying arms, food Maharashtra, Assam or Andhra Pradesh, and other things to us anybody can tribals are being killed. Whatever may tempt us to do any wrong. Tribals jumped happen anywhere but we are only being into politics became MPs, MLAs and killed. We condemn such incidents, but Minister, yet nobody listens to us. This such killings are still continued. The is what we experience here that even Govemment must be in the knowledge tribal MinlstelS have no say in any 715 Adjoumment Motion Re: JULY 25,1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 716 [Shri Shibu Soren] constitution of the Bodoland Autonomous Council within the matter. I am not saying it all for the sake Council area shall be prot~cted in of speaking. ThiS relates to Bihar.... matters pertaining to land and their language." [English] {Translation] MR. SPEAKER: Please conclude now. Section 12 of the Act says that if the Council fails to discharge this duty [Translation] then the Govemor can dismiss the Council and assume all its powers. The hon. SHRI SHIBU SOREN: What would Minister should inform us what has the become of our country. For years we Govemor done in this regard? have been shouting. Incident like Assam might happen in Bihar also or in any Thirdly, since the Signing of the other State. Such incidents should not Bodo Accord, may statements have been recur. Such incidents are also happening given by the Ministry of Horne Affairs of in West Bengal. the Govemment of India and in the interview to PTI the hon. Minister of {English] Home Affairs of the Government of India has categorically stated that: MR. SPEAKER: You should conclude now. I am going to call the next {English] Member to speak. "The Bodo Accord was arrived at [Translation J without working out all these details. It is because of this that the SHRI SHIBU SOREN: Sir, I demarcation of the boundary of the conclude. Bodo Autonomous Council is proving to be a very difficult task, SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Oeoria): Mr. Mr. Chavan told the Pressmen. Speaker, Sir, since time is Jess, I will Chavan said .." raise some specific points only. Statistics regarding the persons killed in ghastly MR. SPEAKER: We do not quote incidents are not available with us. The the newspapers. hon. Minister is requested to furnish these details. Consequent upon BodoIand {Translation] agreement with the consent of the Hon. President on 14th May, 1993 in the SHRI MOHAN SINGH (Oeoria): Sir, Gazette of Assam an Act was notified. I mean to say that the hon. Minister of Section 51-52 of the Act is as follows:- Home Affairs of the Government of India has him8eIf admitted that the Bodo Accon:I [English} was signed in haste. The hon. Minister further states that spilt has taken place -All rights and interests of the non- In the Bodo leadership as some new tttbaI8 cllJzens on the date of extremists have joined in and the 717 Adjourn",."t Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 718

Chairman appointed by the Centre is not nobody is prepared to take responsibility recognised by other extremist of this incident. Neither the State organisations. The hon. Minister is urged Government nor the Centre prepared to to throw light on the present status of take the responsibility. No party is the Bodo Accord. I would like to submit prepared to take' responsibility. Then why that on 17th June a Committee was set such incidents are recurring unabated for up by the Hon. Prime Minister which years? Just now Shri Barmanji gave the comprises members of the rank of details of the incident in a chronological Ministers and it will tour whole of the order. On the 19th, the houses were North-East and submit a report regarding gutted, 'Iooted and people were killed. the problems being faced by the people The incident took place when the Chief there. I would like to urge the hon. Minister was also present there. Economic Minister to also lay on the Table of the issues have also been raised here. As House a copy of the report and then Shri Shibu Soren has stated here that discussion should be held on it to the tribal people are exploited, tortured ascertain the views of the House and under privileged. The Central regarding the problems of North-East. Government and the State Government do not pay attention to their economic The fourth thing that I would like demands, therefore, they resort to to mention is that the amount of Rs. extremism. We do condemn the incidents three thousand crores given by the Central which reccur there. We discuss them in Govemment for checking terrorist activities the House but we do not come forward there, is not an aid, it is rather a sort to find a solution. The persons who have of loan against the State. In order to been given this responsibility are not suppress agitations there Assam owes a prepared to discharge their responsibility. debt or rupees 3000 crore to the Central This is the reason that such incidents are Government at present. Therefore, no taking place continuously which is harmful development work takes place there. I for the country. would like to know from the hon. Minister as to what are the Government doing to On behalf of my party, I would like resolve the problems which impede the to submit that dialogue should be started development work in Assam and the with the Bodo extremists tribals and Government have resorted to take loan? minorities on economic problems and There are certain issues on which I would restoring law and order. Government not like to speak but I would like to put should guarantee the safety of lives of them in a question f(llTTls because the all the people. If the security of lives of time is short and with these words I people is not guaranteed by Govemment, would like to conclude here. who-else will do that? There should be rule of law, extremist forces should be SHRI BRAHMANAND MANDAL contained and if necessary army should (Monghyr): Mr. Speaker, Sir, several be pressed into service then only the persons including children, women and safety of the people can be ensured. The old men were massacred in the State Government and the Central Assam-Barpeta incident that took place Government were aware of the possibility on the 23rd. It should be condemned of such happenings. But the Government strongly. I support the Adjournment Motion could not take effective steps in time. introduced here and whatever has been Therefore, I am of the opinion that the hid In the august House, it seems that State Govemment should be dismfssed 719 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, .1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 720

[Shri Brahmanand Mandai] the situation. I do not suggest that the State Government should be dismissed. and the Central Government also should But it may be noted that., Assam take the responsibility and make a clean Government should have no moral or breast of it. The situation cannot improve social right to hold on to power. unless the mistakes committed are conferred. With your kind permiSSion, I beg to recall the saddest episode of Kokrajhar Mr. Speaker, Sir, I ~·ave to say only killings or Bongaigaon killings. I think that it is a matter of great sorrow that Barpeta is a new addendum to the tragic such massacres take place in which history of mankind where man was killed hundreds of people are killed but no by man. May I remind this House that endeavour is made to solve the main it is the feeling of the local people, of problem although a discussion is held. I the minorities specialiy that the minorities hope that the Central Govemment will are in danger there. Their sentiment has pay attention to it in future. With these been ignored. Their sentiment has been worlds I conclude. wounded brutally. The situation is so sensitive that it may lead to the growth of intemational misunderstanding between [English} the two cQuntries-Bangladesh and India. So, I beg to submit that the entire North- SHRI PRAMOTHES MUKHERJEE Eastern Zone has turned into an active (Berhamporp\' I am a new comer to this volcano which may erupt at any moment. House. May I be allowed to speak This is due to the mishandling of the something on the matter? situation by the Government of India during the last three or four decades. If MR. SPEAKER: You will be allowed, the grave situation in Barpeta is not But you please make a very brief stopped now, then, it may act as a statement. prelude to the volcanic eruption which is undesirable. So, I beg to support the SHRI PRAMOTHES MUKHERJEE: Adjournment Motion. I offer my thanks I nse to support the Adjournment Motion and gratitude to you for allowing me to moved by our hon. friend Shri Chandra speak on the burning issue. With these Jeet Yadav. words, I conclude.

This is only because in Barpeta, SHRI LAETA UMBREY (Arunachal human lives have been lost and valuable East): Sir, I rise to oppose the public property has been damaged and Adjoumment Motion. At the same time, communal harmony is at stake. The I also condemn the barbarous, situation stands so critical that it may indiscrlminate killings of innocent people give rise to communal tension and in Barpeta, In this incident. if any individual communal riots all over the territOrial has been pained and Sincerely concerned districts of the COUlltry, It is my unfortunate them. it must be Shri Hiteshwar Saikia. observation that the State Administration But unfortunately there have been wild and the Assam Government have totally allegations against him. I would like to tailed to control the situation. They could say that Shri Saikia was not on holiday. not realise the gravity of the situation Hew was not doing merry making with beforehand and they could not control his Cabinet coUeagues in Barpeta that 721 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 722 night when the incident took place. He who decide everything. Now, I must say was very much concerned. He had taken that Shri Hiteswar Saikia has done his all efforts to contain the situation. In spite best. But perhaps, he must have taken of his efforts, it is unfortunate that it has certain wrong steps. He should try to been alleged that he has not taken any correct himself and take the suggestion steps. It is not only that. When we see from his colleagues. There is nothing his life history, in his long innings in wrong in consulting the opposition in his polities, he has made many sacrifices own State. which, I think, anyone of us might have never made. So, let us not allege that However, last but not least, I would Shri Saikia has not done anything. Let like to say that the problem in the North- us try to find out solutions. While trying East is aggravating because the tribal to find out solutions, we must be very sentiments are not properly understood careful. I have heard my colleague Shri and they are not properly consulted. I Inder Jit. He said that this is because hope, Shri ~ajesh Pilot, the Minister of of the continous infiltration. But I think State for Internal Security, who is very I must put it in other words. It is because popular and who is very familiar with the of the continuance of the encroachment entire North-East area, will come up with and exploitation which has provoked all new strategies, new policy for the North- these unfortunate incidents. It is the Eastern region. explOitation and encroachment of the non-tribals on the' tribal land which is With these words, I oppose the leading to this situation. Whatever be the Motion. number of the tribal land people, they have their cultural, economic, social and above all pOlitical aspirations. You cannot THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE deny them those things just because you MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI are in majority. This is one thing. The RAJESH PILOT): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I other thing is, as Shri Sontosh Mohan share the anguish and the concern of the Dev has rightly said, it is the ignorance House with a very heavy heart. And I of the people who are in authority. think. any Minister in this Ministry will always pray to God that he does not And anybody who had been to have to reply to such a debate. I was North-East once in his life-time, becomes hearing everyone's view and I would the authority, he becomes the expert on share some of the information which I North-East. This is unfortunate. So, I have received from the Slate Government must say that whenever there is a so that records are set correct. problem, it is not the North-Eastern problem alone but any problem of any As desired by the han. Prime region, I think, it is better to consult and Minister, I with my colleague Shri Sayeed discuss with the representatives of those and Shri Tarun Gogoiji and some of the areas. There are so many problems in MPs, who were available, flew to the North-East. I have been here for the Guwahati and then to Barpeta Road last five years and I have never found where this camp was there. The Chief whether this Government or any other Minister and his all colleagues were Government, ever consulting the available. State Govemment officials were representatives of that area. It is also available. So we were there and had unfortunate, I think, it is the bureaucrats a discussion with them. They told us that 723 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 724

[Shri Aajesh Pilot] two hour firing with them and three of the Border Security Force personnel on 19th July, some of these Bodo security were killed. But by that time the qamage force people started creating some had been done. The army was called on problem in some of the villages in the the 20th itself for a flag march in that Barpeta district. And there was a counter area. But they were not deployed on the by the police and between 19th night and points. They thought that the flag march the 20th night, they set fire to some 250 will be able to control and the police will villages and nearly 16 people lost their take care of the situation. lives between 19th July and 21st July. Police also countered them at some They have told us that a total places and three miscreants were reported number of 54707 persons have taken Jo have been killed by the police during shelter in 26 different camps and the the exchange. Police was active between situation is tense in Barpeta and the 19th to 21st July. But what impression, adjoining districts. We were talking to the I gathered after talking to police officials hon. Chief Minister and his colleagues; and the officials of the State administration I had a detailed discussion with the local was that the strength of the force was leaders. When we went to the camp we not adequate up to 21 st. By the time they talked to the inmates of the camp also. called some of the forces further to Some of the people in the camp, as the augment their efforts, from 21 st to 23rd hon. Member said, did point out that they night, it was all quiet, there was no did inform the police, but the police force incident. And on 23rd night and 24th was not available. I must not hide this morning, that is, round about 1 o'clock from the House. I said this there itseH. in the morning, some people from Bhutan That is why in my briefing with the Chief border came to the civilian camp at Minister I said that the people who were Bansbari which is roughly 30 to 35 from the administration, who are kilometres from the Bhutan border. People responsible there, should have acted on by that time had started coming out from the 19th and the 20th some degree and those affected areas and started setting some more supplementary forces could on in these camps. have brought there knowing the apprehension. Then I asked the DC At that juncture these people started whether he had any apprehension that firing first at the police post which was this incident could be more serious. He guarding them and then on the innocent said yes and no-·he could not answer me people who were camping there. This is very correctly. I called my IB Officer. I where the tragedy took place. That night asked him whether he had informed the ;35 inmates were killed and nearly 70 State Administration about the likely were injured on 24th ear1y morning. apprehension of serious incidents with their movement. The crux of the total problem is, we at that moment did not have sufficient Here what I would like to share with force and the arms which the Bodo the House is that we had been asking Security Forces had were all LMGs, AK all the State Governments to use the 47 with tracers and SLAs. At this juncture information available with the intelligence what I was briefed by the State agencies, so that such situations could administration was that at one stage the be avoided. That is why nearly a year police countered them. It was nearly a back we have taken a decision. I wrote 725 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3, 1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 726

to all the hon. Chief Ministers that every to the same place, to the same area. week our IB Officer would brief the DC Earlier I had gone there when the and SP; once in 15 days the incidents in Kokhrajhar and Bongaigaon Commissioner, IG Police; and once in a took place . .month the Chief Secretary and the DG to brief about the whole' State, so that The Accord has been talked about everyone from the district level to the very much by.most of the Members. Let State level is aware of what is happening me share some of my views on this. in their respective district and 'respective Where were we in 1991' in Assam? What State. This coordination was not there; was the situation in Assam? I do not I must accept it. That is why the want to compare the figures that in so arrangement of supplementary force and and so year, so many were killed in the other things could not be made which I Bodo agitation and now so many have pointed out to the hon. Chief Minister on been killed. It is not the right approach, the spot there itself. When we went there I am not comparing them. But when we to the camp, relief had been provided came into the Govemment in 1991, the whatever the State could do. But the situation was very tense in Assam. main demand from everyone was that the Army must be moved in. 21.00 hrs. Before going there I had a word with the hon. Prime Minister and he said The Bodo activities were on the that he had already received that peak in 1989-90. I do not want to message from the State Govemment mention the figure. They are very scaring. and the State Govemment must do the In 1989-90 the whole area was disturbed. formalities of calling the Army for such When we came in the Govemment operations. By the time I took off they subsequently, from 1985 onwards. late had done it and when I reached there Shri Rajiv Gandhi was the Prime Minister. the Brigadier was available and he said I still remember that the talks were going that they are moving into all the places on so that we could reach some decision required by the State Govemment. Just and the peace could be restored. now. one hour back. I have got the information that the full brigade was After late Rajivji, Mr. V.P. Singh moved in by today aftemoon. In addition took over as the Prime Minister. That whatever bettalions were there-we were Government was continuing the talks on operating one or two battalions in those the same lines. When we came in power, areas-they have taken over positions what had been discussed between and 55 companies of paramilitary forces subsequent Government, we followed of CRP and BSF were there. They the same trend. We brought them down wanted an additional 15. But we have from aSking for a Bodoland to Bodoland five companies near Guwahati and we Autonomous Council. That was the crutch. have routed them to Barpeta and kept We wanted thern to come to a Council. them at the (:lisposal of the State We told them, "You want your Govemment. development. You want your culture to be retained." So, Bodoland is not At the moment the situation is acceptable to the Government. We can under control. It is very unfortunate. You give you autonomous Council so that you can well imagine that it is my third visit can achieve what you want to achieve

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[Shri Rajesh Pilot] As far as insurgency is concerned, we have been going very strong against through Bodoland Autonomous Council. insurgency. We have tried to, curb On that platform, me and hon. Chief insurgency to a great degree. We had Minister, Shri Saikia, had a long been achieving that in many ways in the discussion with them. Then, an accord State of Nagaland, Manipur and, to some was agreed and it was signed. extent, in Assam itself. So, accord was done with that spirit. What Shri Chandra Jeet Yadav has said is unfortunate. Shri No accord is perfect. No accord Syed Shahabuddin also said that when could be said that this is the best solution they did an accord, they were not a for any problem. Accord is an approach team. All of them were together. We to reach nearer the solution. You take signed the accord. any accord-Assam accord, Mizoram accord. About Kashmir, we had an accord with Shri Farooq Abdullah. We had tried They all went with a very good to reach nearer the solution. Everyone feeling. I still remember that in 1993-end, has said that there was a political lining when I had gone for a public meeting, on this accord. As far as Congress Party there were really 10 lakh people. All were is concerned, I still remember that in walking on their foot to the public meeting. 1986, when late Rajivji was Prime Minister, There was a sea of people. All were we had a Government under Chief happy about this accord. The Minister, Shri Saikia. And Shri Saikia apprehension among the people is about resigned. We fulfilled whatever the accord Bodos and non-Bodos. Unfortunately, an was desiring. election could not take place. Frankly speaking, it is an ad hoc body which is functioning. It is supposed 10 be an Similarly, in Mizoram, as Shri elected body. We have kept 'nominated Sontosh Mohan Dev has said, we had from non-Bodos' so that they have a say an elected Govemment. We had sacrificed in the functioning and in implementing to bring normalcy in that area. You see the policies and they have a say in the whole history of North-East. The development. That is why that ratio has efforts of every Govemment at the Centre been kept. have been to bring them into the mainstream. Today, the main job of the As far as boundary is concemed, Govemment is how to bring every part it is 50 per cent and above where the of the North-East into the mainstream. Bodo population is or in the form of We have problem in talks in every State .;ontiguity if it is less then 50 per cent. whether it is Nagaland or Manipur or In that spirit or with that yardstick, we Tripura or Arunachal Pradesh-peculiar have demarcated the boundary. problems in peculiar States. The common approach that we have is that we have open-heart talks with anybody who has They met me nearly a month back. any communication gap. Wherever the They - both groups - said that this was Govemment could come out with that not proper for us. We have said, "All approach, we can bring them together right, we will sit with you. Whatever are into our mainstream. We have been your problems, we are ready to solve taking that approach. them. But you must bring peace." 729 Adjournment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 730

Bodo Security Force was not a part allocations for modeming their police of the accord. Bodo Security Force never forces, their weaponry, vehicles, wanted an accord because they are living communication systems and so on. Even on extorting money. They are living in in Assam, we have straightway given 500 many ways. They are killing people and AK-47s so that the weaponry of our have their own line of living. So Bodo police force is equally good and the Security Force was never happy with the insurgents do not have superior arms accord. But AAPSU and PPP were against compared to ours. Modernisation of the accord from the beginning. At that communication facilities and updating time, it was Bodoland Action Committee them is also resorted to. I am told that and now it is Bodoland People's Party. most of the States are modernising their They were all agreeing that they would police forces or are in the process of see that peace was maintained. modernisation.

Sir, our efforts will continue to bring We have taken yet another decision. them around on a common platform The North-East being a very sensitive because it is very important and area, whatever paramilitary forces we development in that area can take place have got in that area, we have made a only when there is peace and normalcy. separate zone for the North-East and at Guwahati itself, there is a reserve Many hon. Members have asked available which can look after all the as to what we are doing about the seven States. We have made it a situation. Shri Inder Jit has said that the permanent zone so that we do not have situation in the North East is becoming transport the Force from Northern or more and more tense. Yes, to some Southern parts of the country to the extent it is correct. Even yesterday, we North-East. We are keeping certain level had received information that a while of the Forces always available in the colonel was going in a jeep, an North-East. I may also mention here that underground militant fired at him and he the Army has done such a good job in was killed. If you see the history of those areas. They have become so very Nagaland and Manipur, we find that for friendly with the people there and they the last so many years, we have been have helped a lot in bringing the people facing the insurgency problem in these to the mainstream in these States. States. One point is raised as to whether the lSI is involved in this sector. Yes. we One more thing is mentioned here do have some information that some of and I must share it with the House There the groups are in touch with the lSI and was not much of coordination earlier and they are making Bangladesh or Thailand I must accept that it was one of the faults as their rear base thought Chitgong Hill in our system. This problem is there in Tracts and are trying to fuel insurgency all the seven States and what is happening in our part of the country. We are aware in Nagaland was not known to Assam of that and we are taking counter and what is happening in Assam was not measures. We have succeeded in many known to Manipur. Nearly four months ways whereby they are not able to back, we have coordinated with all the achieve their designs. seven States and we have started with a coordinating centre at Shillong so that As a special case in the North the Chief Minister of Assam would know East, we have given them special what is happening in Manipur and the 731 Adjoumment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Alarming Situation in Assam 732

[Shri Rajesh Pilot] to accommodate their views and bring normalcy and peace in that part of the Manipur Administration .would know what area otherwise it will not be able to is happening in Arunachal Pradesh. All develop. Jaswant Singhji has said that the seven States must coordinate and geographically and sentimentally they feel correlate together and then only we can that they are away from the rest of the fight insurgency as a team. As it is a country. We have taken decision to national problem, it has to be fought with connect these areas with rail and even that spirit. This is being worked out. This we have asked to connect at least the has been started just two or three State Headquarters or Capitals of these months back only and it will take some States with air1ines. more time before it becomes perfect. Once this coordination work is perfect, The Central Government has it will reduce half of our problem in the always treated North-East as a special North East. sector. We have a separate formula to allocate funds for them so that we can I have got to verify from the State understand their problems better. Our Government. Many Members from main thrust is to bring them to the different parties have raised a number of mainstream. Our thrust is that our brothers points. I have not replied to all the pOints and sisters living in the far flung areas raised by the Members but I assure you do not feel far away from us. Every effort that I have noted down all the points. should be made to see that such incidents do not recur again. Our appioach will be strong administratively as also politically. MAJ. GEN. (RETD.) BHUWAN We will definitely see to it that they are CHANDRA KHANDURI (Garhwal): But, brought to the mainstream. those are very serious allegations against the State Government and those should KUMAR I MAMATA BERNEJEE: be looked into. What about compensation?

SHRI RAJESH PILOT: The Chief (Interruptions) Minister has accepted in front of me that wherever lapses have taken place, he MR. SPEAKER: You may give reply will take action against the people concerned. As far as other things to her point only and other points may mentioned by my colleague are not be replied. concerned. I would certainly verify from the State Government and let the House SHRI RAJESH PILOT: The State know about it. I request the House to Government has assured that due relief seriously consider this. North East is a and compensation will be given to all the very sensitive part of our countl)'. The victims. people there are very sensitive in nature. They are straight forward and vel)' With these words I request Shri affectionate people. The main thrust of Chandra Jeet Yadav, knowing the the Government is to bring them back sensitivity of the subject, to withdraw his to the mainstream, Even today I got a motion. We ara all one. There is no call that tomorrow they are sorting out difference between the Opposition and the HPC problem. We have tried our best the ruling party. We aU ahare the same 733 AdjolJmment Motion Re: SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) Alarming Situation in Assam 734 concern. We have made efforts though Sir, I think that this is one of the they may not be visible to you. I assure very few Adjoumment Motions which was you that they will soon by more visible not debated on party lines. I find that to you and you will then realise that we most of the speakers expressed the are moving in the right direction. Wherever same concern. They had not only pointed we have faltered we will certainly try to out the weaknesses, the lapses but they improve. We all have the same spirit, the had also made many positive suggestions spirit to improve the situation there. So, so that the things may improve, I am glad this should go as a message to the that the Minister of State for Home nation that we will fight such forces and Affairs, Mr. Rajesh Pilot had accepted we will bring our brothers and sisters that there was lack of coordination; there living in that part of the area to the were certain lapses; and there were mainstream. We will not relax till that aim certain information but the local is achieved which was set forth by late administration could not promptly act Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru when he spoke upon them. Even the Reports which were in Nagaland saying, "I do not need submitted by Intelligence Agencies were Congress here. I need my Nagaland also not seriously taken note of. I think people with India, Congress is the second that the Government should have come part. Nagaland people with India is the out with some more positive thinking first part." That should be the spirit. about certain issues that were raised in this debate. We have said that still there SHRI SOBHANADREESWARA is a confusion regarding the real area RAO VADDE: You have told a very right which forms the Bodo land. It has been thing. found that round about 100 villages are there which are not Bodo majority villages MR. SPEAKER: I am not allowing but even then they form part of Bodo this. land. This is one of the serious concerns. SHRI RAJESH PILOT: Sir, I request Shri Chandra Jeet Yadav to withdraw his There is another genuine feeling motion. among the Bodo people that the border areas of Bhutan had been taken away SHRI CHANDRA JEET YADAV from them. There were some doubts. It· (Azamgarh): Sir, I must start my reply happens to be an intemational border. by thanking you because but for your Why have they taken out those areas? consent this debate would not have While the other States viz., Uttar Predesh, taken place. As Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev Bihar, Jammu and Kashmir and Punjab has said very rightly, this debate has have also border areas, those areCtS served a great purpose by sending a belong to those particular States. I think message to our brothers and sisters that the Govemment should give a serious living far away in that area that this thought to it and rectify the mistake. highest forum in a Parliamentary democracy feels concerned if such Another thing which the Home incidents happen anywhere in any part Minister himself had admitted is this. It of the country. Our main purpose was is unfortunate that there are two groups that we must immediately express our in Bodo. But this is also a fact that concem. We should take necessary steps because of political interests, a rivalry to prevent such unfortunate things to within that organisation has been exploited happen again in future. and has been used. I think that when 735 Adjournment Motion Re: JULY 25, 1994 Statement By Minister 736 Alarming Situation in Assam

[Shri Chandra Jeet Yadav) identified, am sure immediate and prompt action will be taken to remove it comes to the question of national them, interest, such petty politics or small party interests should not be taken into Other issues have also been raised. consideration. I do not want to repeat them; but I think the Government must take them into Mr. Jaswant Singh had used a very consideration. So far as the Home appropriate phrase or expression that Minister's appeal is concerned, I will only there is a kind of emotional distance say that I am not asking for division nor between our people and the people living will I request other Members of the in that area, I think that not only economic House from this side to ask for division. measures but some other measures But it will be difficult for me to withdraw have to be taken. I am glad that the the motion at this stage. Prime Minister had set up a strong nine- Member Cabinet Committee to look into MR. SPEAKER: I shall now put the problems of those areas and also to Motion for Adjournment moved by Mr. mobilise extra resources in order to help Chandra Jeet Yadav to the vote of the th: people of North-Eastern areas. I am House. The question is: happy that the Prime Minister himself - while addressing his Party rally at Red "That the House do now Adjourn" Fort-had said that many people feel that now he has a majority and therefore he The motion was negatived. will give up the path of consensus but he said that he will not give this up.

But. I think, somewhere, there are 21_21 hrs. certain weaknesses, When such issues come up, the Government not only should [English) take into confidence the Ministers and form a Committee of team for sending STATEMENT BY MINISTER them to the affected places-' because administrative measures after all have to Wage Revision of Port and Dock be taken by the Government -but on Workers such issues, I think there is a need for wider consultation. I say that the Leaders THE MINISTER OF STATE OF of all the Parties in Parliament should be THE MINISTRY OF SURFACE taken into confidence. It is not that we TRANSPORT (SHRI JAGDISH TYTLER): are going to make excellent suggestions The wages of Class III & IV workers and and find a magic wand to solve all the employees of Major Port Trusts and problems. Dock Labour Boards have been due for upward rtwlsion from 1.1.93. A Bipartite But that sends a message itself. It Wage Negotiation Committee under also serves the purpose that it is being Chairman, Bombay Port Trust and taken as a national issue and the people consisting of representatives of labour of other parties are involved. I think the has been negotiating the Increase since weaknesses which the Government has some time. On 24.7.94, the negotiations 737 Statement By Minister SRAVANA 3,1916 (SAKA) BAC Report 738 have concluded successfully with a received from all the All India Labour Memorandum of Understanding (M.O.U.) Federations working in the Ports and being signed between the management Docks, for which I extend my heartiest of the Major Port Trusts & Dock Labour congratulations to the labour leaders and Boards and the 5 All India Federations to the workers. I trust and hops that this of Port and Dock Workers. The M.O.U. will be a forerunner for other industrial provides for a just and fair increase in sectors to have wage settlements in a the wages for the workers at climate of peace and with higher levels approximately 19% increase in the wage of productivity under the dynamic bill. The wage increase will be valid for leadership of our Hon'ble Prime Minister. the next 5 years.

This M.O.U. has been reached without any strike or i:1dustrial unrest, 21.24 hrs. and without loss of a single manday which was not so in the last two wage BUSINESS ADVISORY revisions and is truly a landmark COMMITTEE achievement. Ports is the first major industrial sector where a wage settlement Forty-First Report has been reached in the current round of wage revision for workers. [English]

The M.O.U. provides for a 7% per THE MINISTER OF WATER year increase in productivity parameters RESOURCE AND MINISTER OF like gangshift output and ship berthday PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI output, so as to decrease the tum round VIDYACHARAN SHUKLA): I beg to time of the vessels and therefore increase present the Forty-First Report of the •efficiency and reduce congestion. It also Business Advisory Committee . provides for increased datums and accelerating incentive schemes. MR. SPEAKER: I thank all the Members for their full cooperation. The Unproductive practices are sought House stands adjourned to meet to be eliminated. With this and with tomorrow, 26 July, 1994, at 11 a.m. rationalized manpower development, the unit cost of operation would be kept at 21.25 hrs. present level. The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven of the Clock on Tuesday, July The signing of the M.O.U. with 26, 19941Sravana 4, 1916 (Saka) such positive features has been possible due to the lull hearted co-operation