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Ebook Download Twilight of the Idols TWILIGHT OF THE IDOLS PDF, EPUB, EBOOK Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche,Duncan Large | 176 pages | 01 Apr 2009 | Oxford University Press | 9780199554966 | English | Oxford, United Kingdom Nietzsche : Twilight of the Idols I'd say it depends on which of the 51 individual sections you're reading, as Nietzsche riffs and jazzes and shreds his way from topic to topic. Jesus there are some brutal breakdowns here, and definitely some highlights: "Our true experiences are not garrulous. They could not communicate themselves if they wanted to: they lack words. We have already grown beyond whatever we have words for. In all talking there lies a grain of contempt. In section 34, for example, Nietzsche explains that anarchists and socialists he uses the terms interchangeably simply enjoy the feeling of complaining, which satisfies a certain revenge they want to take upon the world- therefore it seems, in Nietzsche's conception, that any attempt at social or political reform is just narcissism. In other words: this whatever this happens to be at a given point in time, presumably is just the way it is, and it's pointless to try to change or reform it. I feel that way myself, at times. But isn't this also a kind of masochism, a kind of fatalism? Nietzsche on old age and sickness: To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost, ought to entail the profound contempt of society. Physicians, in their turn, ought to be the communicators of this contempt- not prescriptions, but every day a fresh dose of disgust with their patients It would be good job security for Nietzsche too, because even if Biden and Harris win, they can just retain Nietzsche- they can have him say essentially the same things, just with a nicer tone, throw in some rhetorical bullshit about restoring the soul of America- and Nietzsche can provide ideological cover for why they'll never support universal healthcare. Later, Nietzsche continues to express some values that I'm going to be polite and refer to as conservative: I have already For institutions to exist there must exist the kind of will, instinct, imperative which is anti-liberal to the point of malice: the will to tradition, to authority, to centuries-long responsibility, to solidarity between succeeding generations backwards and forwards in infinitum. Didn't I read once that Nietzsche's Nazi bitch of a sister altered some of his writing years later in order to make it seem like he would have approved of the Nazis? Is it possible I got one of those copies? The stupidity, fundamentally the instinct of degeneration which is the cause of every stupidity today, lies in the existence of a labor question at all. About certain things one does not ask questions : first imperative of instinct So here's my question for Nietzsche, and I hope he answers me here on Goodreads. Your book, quite provocative and insightful at times, seems to be about how people worship arbitrary idols without even being conscious of it. But why then do you think your readers should have such reverence for the rule of "instinct"? Why should I have any respect at all for concepts like "tradition, authority and centuries-long responsibility"? And why do you, for that matter? By the time we get to track 11, the outro, What I Owe to the Ancients , it's as if a storm has passed, although there's a sense of lingering danger and tempestuous seas. Nietzsche reiterates the connection between Socrates actually, now he's talking about Plato, but those two fellas had similar ideas, didn't they? Idols, in other words. Nietzsche finishes by re-emphasizing the necessity of offering an ecstatic YES to life, "affirmation of life even in its strangest and sternest problems. I agree that it's good to be adaptable, to work through hardship, and that there's something powerful in the idea of being able to say YES to every experience, to accept everything as material for a creative life. And I can understand why people living in troubled times that would be all of us, now find solace and inspiration in this idea, and in Nietzsche's writing in general. I'm with him just up to the point where that affirmation becomes fatalism, an excuse for keeping things the way they are, and where the ecstatic YES becomes contempt for anyone who doesn't or can't follow suit. Probably doesn't deserve a place in the heavy metal pantheon like Schopenhauer's Forever Baptized in Eternal Fire or Kant's Seventh Son of a Seventh Son , or even Nietzsche's self-titled debut, but an album that's worth getting out of the drawer and giving a re-listen, if it's been a while. View all 8 comments. I intend to write an essay about three of the books written in by Nietzsche: the most explosive, the "crazy" ones. What I have found out, re-reading them, is that Nietzsche wasn't crazy at all when he conceived "The Twilight of Idols" for instance as some psychiatrists claim. His truths are more powerful, deeper and more energetic. There is an incredible tension but also a massive - almost unbelieveable - intuition. In his hidden, occult way pre-psychanalytic , Nietzsche is almost always I intend to write an essay about three of the books written in by Nietzsche: the most explosive, the "crazy" ones. In his hidden, occult way pre-psychanalytic , Nietzsche is almost always right. His truth may be "perverse" but it is nevertheless a strong truth. I'd rather be insane with Nietzsche than "normal" with Kant. However, because Nietzsche has written this books weeks before his mental breakdown, they are somehow mythologically charged. Before experiencing his abyss, the German writer had perhaps the most formidable intelectual adventure of all times: if Zarathustra is Everest, Genealogy of the Morals and the writtings from the fateful are a trip to Moon and Mars. The aforementioned virtual essay of mine will probably emulate Papini's tone from the "Twilight of Philosophers". May 11, Geoff marked it as to-read. Jan 07, Griffin Wilson rated it it was amazing Shelves: ph-modern , z-nietzsche. Most excellent. I could recommend this as a good place to start with Nietzsche. He wrote it at the end of his life and seems to bring a lot of ideas from different works together here: critiques of Plato and his impact on the Western tradition, of Christianity, and of "modernity" and various thinkers it produced along with bits and pieces of his solution. I doubt this chaos was natural, since he spent a lot of time thinking about the format he was about to put it with the Antichrist in one book , but there's no doubt he's the gift of writing. I can't approve all his thoughts, but among this ideas flooding, you can't remain neutral. You'll going to be there trying to rebuild what the flood has already demolished, trying to pick some new materials, strong enough to resist the Hammer of the philosopher.. More precisely: we are never understood — hence our authority. You run ahead? Are you doing it as a shepherd? Or as an exception? A third case would be as a fugitive. First question of conscience. Are you genuine? Or merely an actor? A representative? Or that which is represented? In the end, perhaps you are merely a copy of an actor. Second question of conscience. Are you one who looks on? Or one who lends a hand? Or one who looks away and walks off? Third question of conscience. Do you want to walk along? Or walk ahead? Or walk by yourself? One must know wh You run ahead? One must know what one wants and that one wants. Fourth question of conscience. Friedrich Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols Nov 12, lavinia rated it did not like it Shelves: philosophy. I am most likely going to burn in reader's hell for this rating. I never really liked Nietzsche, his style always seems to influence the weak with rebellion, especially teenagers. His anger with Christianity is so big that I believe this guy is responsible for a third of today's atheists. Especially if you're in high school, this book is going to influence you a lot. He focuses on how people trust and value much more their non-sensorial traits and how the real sensors are neglected and considered I am most likely going to burn in reader's hell for this rating. He focuses on how people trust and value much more their non-sensorial traits and how the real sensors are neglected and considered perhaps too shallow he gives the nose as an example. He talks a lot about Christians and they're beliefs in heaven, about how this proofs they're dislike of the real world. He picks on Plato a lot, and later on some german philosophers. Overall, this was a drag to read, with no valuable take-aways for me. Luckily it's a short book, otherwise I would have given up for sure after the first hundred pages. View 1 comment. Sep 29, Ali Gilani rated it it was amazing. Nietzsche writes in a vague prose, and there are multiple interpretations of his texts, but I will make it simpler for me and write my first impressions of the book. I believe it is a great piece of prose. And his aphoristic style is short and curt and as the name of the book suggests, it really feels like someone is pounding you with a hammer.
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