FI,btb Series, Vol XIII, No.3 Tuesday, FebrD., 2S~U16 : Pbalg ...... 6, 1907 (Sau)

LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

Fifth Session (Eighth )

( Yo/. XIII contains Nos. 1 to 10)

LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW ,Price: Rs. 4.00 [Original English proceedings included in English Version and original proceedings included in Hindi Version will be treated as authoritative and Dot the translation thereof.] CONTENTS

No. 3-Tuelday, February 25. 1986/PhalgUIIIl 6, 1907 (SaIuJ)

CoWMNS

Oral Answers to Questions: •• 1-31 • Starred Questions Nos. 21 to 26, 28 and 29

Written Answers to Questions : ••• 32-277

Starred Questions Nos. 27, 30 to 37. 39 and 40 32-42

Unstarred Questions No. 224 to 236, 238, 240 to 336, 338 to 398, 400 to 427 and 429 to 44Z 42-277

Re. Question of Privilege against Shri Arif Mohammad Khan and Shri Z.A. Ansari, Ministers of State for expressing oppo­ site views on Code of Criminal Procedure (Amendment) Bill by Shri G.M. Banatwalla, M.P. 278-282 Papers Laid on the Table - 282-291 Committee on Public Undertakings-

Sixth Report and Minutes 291

Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance- 292-320

Reported statement made by the official spokesmen of a neighbouring country regarding recent disturbances in 292-320

Prof. K.K.Tewary ••• 292-302

Shri Chintamani lena 302-306

Dr. G .S. Itajhans ••• 306-309

Shri Ram Pyare Panika 310-312

Shri B.R. Bbagat 312-320

Business Advisory Committee- Eighteenth Report ... 321

*The sign+marked above the name of a Member indicates that the questiOQ was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member.

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CoLUMNS

Bills In trod uced- 321-357

Muslim Women (Protection of Rights on Divorce) Bill-Introduced ••• 321-356 Ravi and Beas Waters Tribunal Bill-Introduced 356-357

Statement reo Ravi and Beas Waters Tribunal Ordinance, 1986 357

Matters under Rule 377- 357 -365

0) Demand to raise support prices of all agricultural produce by about 25 per cent.

ShrJ K. Ramachandra Reddy 357-358

(ii) Demand for developing Northern part of Kerala to attract tourist traffic.

Shri Mullapally Ramachandran 358-359

(iii) Need to set up industrial units in of to provide gainful employment to the local people.

Dr. G.S. Rajhalls 359

(iv) Need for arranging adequate suppJies of coal to industries and small scale units in Orissa.

Shri Ananta Prasad Sethi 360

(v) Demand for diverting a few ships from Cochin, Mangalore and Tuticorin Ports to Calicut/Beypore Port to provide employment to idle workers at the latter port.

Dr. K. G. Adiyodi 360-361

(vi) Demand for financial assistance of Rs. 500 crores to Government to enable it to meet the acute drought there. Shri Virdhi Chander Jain ... 361-362 (vii) Need to take urgent steps for timeJy completion of big projects in order to obviate escalation in cost.

· Shri M 001 Chand Daga 362-363

(viii) Need to instruct the United Bank of India to 1ibera­ lise its policy in re~pect of tea financing.

Shri Ana1ldo Pathak , , 363 (lIl)

CoLUMNS

Ox) Need for remedial measures in order to meet the severe drouaht situation in .

Shrl Ahmed M. PtJlel 364-365

Motion of Thanks on the President', Address ••• 365-448 Shri Eduardo Faleiro 365-374 Shri Zainul Basher 375-433 Shri M. S. Gill 433-438 Shri Anadi Charan nas 438-441 Sbri Sharad Dishe 441-448

LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA AND NATUR.AL GAS be pleased to state:

(a) whether the prices of petroleum Tuesday, February 25, 1986/Phalguna 6, and petroleum products have been increas­ 1907 (SAKA) ed recently; The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the lb) if so, the rates of increase for the Clock. different products ;

(c) the reasons for effecting the above [MR. SPEA KER in the Chair] increase in prices ;

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS (d) the estimated additional revenue earnings as a result of the increase in [English] prices; and

Price iDcrease of petroleum aad petroleum (e) the extent to which these hikes will products raise the general price index '1 + THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE *21. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHRI NARSINH MAKWANA : SEKHAR SINGH): (a) to (e). A State­ Will the Minister of PETROLEUM ment is given below.

Statement

(a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The prices of some petroleum products were increased with effect fJ;om 1.2.1986. The prices of some of these products were subsequently reduced with effect from 6.2.86. The rates of increase/decrease are, given as under:

Price prior Increase Price Decrease Price Perccnta,ge to 31.1.86 w.e.f. as on w.e.f. as on in~rease 1.2.86 1.2.86 6.2.86 6.2.86 on 6.2.86 over 31.1~6

ATF 4739.85 500/KL 5239.85 5239.85 10.55 MS 6369.07 500/KL 6869.07 lOO/KL 6769.07 6.%8 .1 HSD 3007.55 180/KL 3187.55 72/KL 3115.55 3.59 SKO 1821.93 225/KL 2046.93 90/KL 1956.93 7.41 LPG 3028.9g 700/MT 3728.98 280/MT 3448.98 13.81 (DOMESTIC)

The Weiahted a\ferap increase in prices works out to S.40k. Oral Answers ]fEBRUARY 25,1986 Oral Answers 4

(c) Need to raise additional resources recent increase 5.4 per cent, the decHne for the plan and contain the rapid growth in demand is expected to be 1.2 per cent. in the consumption of the petroleum pro­ The Government is not resting content ducts, and curtail the value of imports. with this only. We are evolving a com­ prehensive package of measures for (d) The estimated ad_ditional annual conservation of petroleum and petroleum revenue earnings on account of increase in products. This will cover not only the prices of petroleum prcducfs is likely to working of the refineries itself but all the be of the order of abot: t Rs. 530 crores per sectors of the economy like industrial anDum on projected off takes. sector, the transport sector, the agricul­ tt;ral sector and household sector. It is (e) The rise in the prices of petro], expected that that WdY we would be able kerosene & HSD Oil will contribu te to a to reach the plan assumption level of 6.4 rise of 0.21 per cent to the general Whole­ per cent. sale price index. Regarding the first part of the question SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: I about comparable rise during the Janata must congratulate the hon. Minister that period and during the two years of g,fter raising the prices of petrokum Congress rule . (Il1terruption) The question products from 1.2.1986, the Government is there .... was pleased to reduce the prices on the demand of some of the Congn,ss represen­ SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: If tatives. Now, I would like to ask him yeu have got the particulars, then it is an whether it is a fact that priles of kerosene inspired supplementary. and LPG were increased substantially duting the golden rule of Janata Party. SHRI CHANDRA SEKHAR SINGH: From December, 1977 to September, PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: It 1979 there Were two rise. For kerosene was a diamond rule and not golden rule. the price rose by 19.4 per cent and for diesel 19.6 per cent. The average price rise SHRI SONTOSH MOl-JAN DEV: If was 19 per cent plus. During· 1985 86 and that be the case, what was the comparative 1986-87-if the pricls arc not raised again rise in prices of petroleum products during during 1986-87 -the weighted average price the two-year of Janata rule and two-year rise of SKO and diesel is 10.6 per cent. So, period of Congress ru Ie ? It is 19 per cent as against 10.6 per cent. , The Mini~ter has stated that the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: You consumption of petroleum products will have not given the figures of prices under be reduced. May I know the positive steps the first Government headed by Pandit Government has taken to reduce the Jawaharlal Nehru. consumption in Government and semi­ Gdvernment organisations? SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH: After all, there is some work left for you SHRI CHANDRA SEKHAR SlNGH : a]so to do. In reply to the 1a tter part of the question first, the growth of demand of consump­ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: So, tion of petroleum products for the fi\ e you want us to come back. All right, we petroleum products for which prices were will do it. raised, was 9 per cent between Aprjl to December, 1985. Ar.d if we tak~ a long­ SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : Sir, term perspective frem July, 1984 to in view of the fact that the Government, December, 1985 over the same period i.e. in the Jast three years, has given permi­ Ju]y, 1983 to Decrmi:'cr, 1984, tre rat( of ssion to various automobile industries. to growth was 7 pcr cent. It is estimated have new motor cars, is there any thinking that due to price rise, the demand will be in the Government and' wh'ether · the declined by 1.2 per cent. The price elasti­ Petroleum Ministry has coordinated with city of demand beinl .25 pel' cent and the the Ind~stry Ministry to :rethjnk £-about Oral A""Wef.f PItALGtJNA 6, 1907 (SAICA) Drat Anawers 6

this licensing procedure, and whether the from the National Grid and proper plann­ existing licences will continue or not? ing for thermal power in view of the abundant coal resources in the State of SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH: Orissa? Sir. the Government is in agreement with the approach of the hon. Member and we THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE feel that some of the policy decisions taken DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF in the past may have to be reviewed if MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) The power conservation of petroleum products has to shortage in Orissa during April, 1985 to be encouraged. I took a meeting of all January, 1986 was about 17.5 per cent. the concerned Secretaries of the Ministries The cont illued power shortage has mainly and I hope that in a month or so we will affected heavy and power-intensive indus­ be able to place before the House the tries. The unsatisfactory performance of package of measures which we intend to Talcher Thermal Power Station and low adopt in the future. reservoir levels have contributed to the power shortage. [ Translation] (b) To mitigate the power shortage, SHRI NARSINH MAKWANA : Hon. Orissa is being supplied power from Speaker, Sir, I want to know from the neighbouring systems to the extent practic­ hone Minister as to how consump~ion is able. To augment the generating capacity going to be reduced with the increase in in Orissa, two projects namely, Ib Va lIey prices and how he proposes to reduce the Thermal Project and Talcher super thermal value of imports? power station are under consideration.

SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH: SHRI JAGANNATH PATTNAIK: I have already told that the consumption Sir, keeping the power shortage and its will go down due to two measures. The effect in view, will (he State of Orissa be first is that with the increase in prices the given power assistance from out of the consumption is reduced and this is based unallocated quota, if that is available with on our past experience. "The same thing the Centre in different thermal plants, as can also be said on the basis of experiences a short-term strategy and if so, from in other countries. As I told earlier, the where, by when and up to what extent, price elasticity of demand is 0.25 per cent. particularJy to meet the needs of the On this basis, the demand is estimated to Cen tra1 sector in the Stqte ? be reduced by 1.2 per cent. Secondly, the reduction in consumption is being achieved SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: through conservation measures. The target Sir, the only Central station in the eastern for rate of growth of demand envisaged in region from where unallocated power or its the plan decument is 6.4 per cent. share can be supplied to Orissa is Farakka which has already been commissioned and :Englishl which will start 'Commercial generation from the month of March onwards. This Orissa's power requirement direction is already there that unallocated power from any Central Government *22. SHRI JAGANNATH PATTNAIK: thermal station will be given to a State Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased which is facing more serious shortage. So, to state: from Farakka, Orissa will be entitled for more power from the unalloWlted share when Farakka starts its commercial gene­ (a) the extent of power shortage in ration.. Orissa and its effect on the performance W industries.. public undertakings and ralchar Thermal Power Plant; and SHRI JAGANNATH PATTNAIK: Our national objective is that we should (b) whether there is any proposal for achieve self sufficiency in power sapply ,upply of minimum requirement of Orissa during the 7th. Plan. Keeping this in vicwp ... 7 FEBRUAR Y 25., 19-86 Oral J4""wers t. what positive steps are being taken for the neighbouring States to meet· the pre­ the execution of Ib valley super-thermal, sent shortage which Orissa. is facing. Talchar super-thermal and Indravati Hydel During the year 1985-86, from April to power projects during the 7th Plan period? January, Orissa continued to face shortage What is the scheduled time and what is of power. The availability Was 3707 million the expected date of completion of these units as against the requirement Qf 4495 projects? million units. Out of 3707 million units which Orissa got, there were 785 million SHRI AIUF MOHAMMAD KHAN: units which were made available from the A capacity totalling 483.5 MW is expected systems of Andhra, Madhya Pradesh, Bjhar to be added in Orissa during the 7th Plan and DVC. period. Today the probe m is that the other About the Ib vaJley ploject, it is States in the region are also facing short­ ages. The State of Madhya Pradesh pending with the Planning Commission which can supply some additional power for investment decision. The commission­ to Orissa is not in a position to supply ing schedule of this project will be known more than what they are supplying. after the resources become available. Presently they are supplying 29 nlillion units every month. Because of the bottle­ Regarding Talchar super-thermal power necks in the transmission system they station, the benefits of this station are cannot supply more power. There is a likely to come in the first year of the 8th new transmission lir.e which is to connect Plan. This project has already been placed Orissa with Madhya Pradesh, out of which before the World Bank and a preliminary the rvIadhya Pradesh portion has been appraisal of the Project has already been completed and the Orissa portion bas ,npt done by the World Bank. The negotia­ been completed. It bas to be completed tions are in an advanced stage. by the Orissa State Electricity Board. As soon as that portion is completed, possibly About the Indravati project, I do not Madhya Pradesh will be in a position to hav,e the details with me. I will coHect and supply even additional power to Orissa supply tile same to tae .h<>n. Meolber State Electricity Board. In addition to later ODe that, I may say, Orissa will have to im­ prove the Plant Load Factor of its own SHRI JAGANNA TH RAO: Apart thermal power stations which unfortunately from the long term measures of setting up is running at a very low Plant ~oad super thermal power station at Talchar Factor present]y. and in the State sect>or the utilisation of Ib valley proj.ect, what are the steps thr.t [Trans/ation] Government would 1ike to take, to ease the presellt situation? Setting up of academy for training of Judicial Officers NQW, OIissa is getting 45 MW from Madhya :Pradesh.., + *23 SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA WiN the Central Government see that SHRI KALJ PRASAD PANDEY: Orissa gets some s}1are from a"d also from DVC from 1st Will the Minister of LAW AND March tilJ end of June, for 4 months, JUSTICE be pleased to statt, : which is diftieult period? Win the Govern­ ment U6e its - good cffices to see that (a) whether Government have decided additional power supply to Orissa is made to set 'l2P any academy or institute for available from DVC and from Andhra impzrting training ta JUdicial Officers ; Pradesh?

J .. (b) if so, whether it will function under SH&I AR.IF MOHAMMAD KHAN: the direct control of (he Supreme Court G~«.-nt is tlyilll to lot powe;' from. and Oral Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10

. (c) when it will start functioning ? decide what kind of tr'lining should be imparted and how it should be tHE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE imparted. If the Government initiate MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE action on its own, it wouJd not be proper, (SHRT H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) to (c). because it is ,not good to exercise control Matter regarding imparting training to over the judiciary. The Chief Justice of judicial officers has been under considera­ India is seriously considering tbis proposal. tion of t~ . In one of The moment he gives us any suggestion in the resolutions passsed in the Conference this regard, the Government would take of Chief Justices of High Courts, Chief immediate action and would provide the Ministers and Law Ministers of States held required assistance. on 31st August and 1st September, 1985, it was recommended tha t there should be This is our intention that the training an institute or academy for the training of progrdmme for the judiciary should be judicia1 officers under the Chainnanship of decided by the and the Chief JU$tice of India. The Govern­ the trairling should be conducted through ment has rtquested Chief Justice of Indi" him. The Government cannot se~ up an to intimate the present position in this ~cademy for Adivasis on its own. We have regard and also the type of assistance he already asked the Chief Justice to look would require from the Government for into it and it is now under his considera­ setting up of the proposed institute/ tion. academy. It is not possible to indicate the definite date when this institute/ SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA : Mr. academy will start functioning. Speaker, Sir, it was never my intention that Government should have any control SHRl DILEEP SINGH BHURIA : Mr. over the judiciary. What I wanted to say Speaker, Sir, I thank the hon. Minister was that H.e Judges appointed for admini­ for the reply to nlY question and for giving stering justice to the people should be assurance in that regard. I am putting my such as could actu"JIy do justice to the supplementary with the same sense of people, that is, those who could sift the confidence. In the po~t Independent India, truth from the falsehood. The only thing a graduate is directly appointed a Judge. which I want to ask is that when it is under He is equipped with only bookish know­ consideration, will the Supreme Court be ledge and little practicable knowledge. We setting up only one institution in the have lllany backward areas in the country. country or will it re done at High Court My district is a backward district and the Jevel or district level or even at lower jails are already over-crowded. The people level? Therefore, I want to know why the do not know even the legal procedure and hon. Minister is not speeding up this by appointing a person from this area as process after giving it due cOf'sideration ? judge directly we are entrusting the life of an individual to him. I want to know why SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ; Apart from government do not speed up the process recommending a Central Academy, we of imparting training to a person who is have also asked the Chief Justices of the going to be appointed as Judge? Similar High Courts to have similar academies at training should also be imparted to the state 1evel as well. As soon as their sugges­ Harijans and the Adivasis. Since the hone tions are received, we shall take immediate Minister has replied that this proposal is action therecn. We have said so because still under consideration. I W.lnt to know need for such a training has been felt. The the time by which this training will be Judges and Judicial officers should have started? knowledge in this field.

SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: Mr. Speaker, SHRIMATI VIDYVATI CHATUR. Sir, I want to tell the hone Member VEDI: You remind them to set up an that the judiciary in India is independent academy soon. of the executive. It would be more appro­ priate if the Chief Justice of the Supreme SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: Your Court Of tbe Judses of the HiSh Courts r~milldins them will not hasten the proc~s$. 11 Oral Answers FEBRUARY 2S, 1986 Oral Answer' 12

SHRIMATI VIDYAVATI CHATUR­ before tq.e house in envisaging an institute -VEDt : You remind them, not we. before the creation of the Central judicial service. I would like to know whether SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: You see, any progress has been made in the creation there can be a cause for complaint if the and establishment of the Central judicial Chief Justices give a training programme service. and it is not implemented. But when the i Chief Justices have not given any pro­ SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: The Indian gramme and if We inItiate a programme on Judicial Service is also under consideration our own, it will not be good. As soon as but that does not form part of the training such a programme is received, action at programme of the judges. That is altoge­ Central as well as State level will be taken ther a different question. immediately.

SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: It [ Translation] is clear from the reply given by the hone Minister that they want to set up an Amendment to Election Laws academy. He has also stated that action will be taken on the recommendations ('If + the Chief Justices when such recomn1enda­ *24. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAJ : tions are received. I want to know whether SHRI C. JANGA REpDY : it is a fact that during his tour of Rajas­ than, the Chief Justice of India had said Will the Minister of LAW AND on 15.1.86 that tr.e huge number of pending JUSTICE be pleased to state: cases in different courts is an aspersion on the efficiency of Judicial officers. This is (a) whether Government propose to with this end in view that you said that bring forward legislation to amend the the suggestions from the Chief Justices election laws; would be considered as soon as they are received. So, I would say that (b) if so, the oUllines thereof; and you share the CO!1cern voiced by the Chief Justice of India. Keeping this is in view, you should fix a time limit by which this (c) if not, the reasons therefor ? academy is to be set up. [English] SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: We on our part can set up a Central Acad~my the THE MINISTER OF LAW AND day recommendation from the Chief JUSTICE (SHRI A.K. SEN) : (a) Yes, Justices of India is received. So far as the Sir. Government ar~ keen to amend the question of the states is concerned, it is election laws with a view to bringing about highly improper for the Central Govern­ electoral reforms. ment to give an assurance to this effect. (b) The Election Commission had [English] earlier forwarded a set of proposals on SYED SHAHABUDDIN : Mr. Speaker, electoral reforms. Further consultatioJl Sir, tbe training prograll'me pre-supposes with the Election Commission is continuing. the existence of a cadre. There are Sta te After the completion uf detailed examina.. c~dres for judicial service and I presume tion and the formulation of preljminary that the respective High Courts have got views on various proposals, Government programmes for giving to the judges either would hold consultations with the political as in-service training or training at ihe parties. It wou Jd not be feasible at thi~ time of recruitment. We are concerned stage to indicate the proposals which may with the Central situation. emerge on the basis of consultation with political parties. I would like to know from the hon. Minister whether he is not puttin$ the cart (c) Does not arise, Oral'Answers PHALOUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Ord/ Answers 14

[Translation] SHRI A.K. SEN: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have already replied to it, I have nothing SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAJ: Mr. Speaker, more to say in this regard. Sir, the hone Minister has stated that consultations thereon is going on. Through ~ SHRI C. },ANGA REDDY: Mr. yoti: 1 want tb ask for how long this con­ Speaker, Sir, The hon. Minister bas not -s\1'1 tatton wou'ld go -On. Is there any end to set any time limit in his reply. The cabinet it? What are the views of the Govern­ sub committee is holding consultations on -ment in this regard? In case the process electoral reforms. What are its proposals of !consultation with opposition leaders and to what extent have these been con ..

J t~kes 'Unduly long time or if the Govern­ sidered ? The President had clearly stated ment do not hav~ any views of their own, in his Address in 1985 that: wilt'the hO'n. Min'ister act on my suggestion and direct the Election Commission to [English] e-v61Te a system under which independents and anti-social elen1ents are barred from "Government are committed to 'cuntesting election ai'ld thereby clearing a a clean pu blic life. They intend to way fer the government? intiate a wide ranging discussion on electoral reforms with political parties [Engiish] and would welcome their cooperatIon".

SIIRI A. K. SEN: It is very difficult [Translation] . to put a time-limit on consultation with the Election Commis()ion because election No action has been taken in this regard process is the vcry COl C of our democratic al though a year has since passed. functioning and, by and large, the process has stood the test ...of time and the last MR. S:'EAKER : You have got a reply reforms we had "as in 1976 and, after that, to it. Now you may put another supple.. various proposals ha.ve come. Some of mentary. tbelTI emerge fronl the Constitutional amendment which took place by the 42nd SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: What has Amendment and we are considering ,"ll of been the opinion 0f the Cabinet Sub them. That was a very important qUl:"tion Committee in this regai d and by when the about Constitutional A mendment. There Gov~rnm _at would accept th.lt opinion. are various other important questions raised and a detailed examination wouJd be necessary both flonl the point oi view SARI A K. SEN: Action can be taken of their financidl implications and others. only when a proposal comes from the For instance, the question '- f setting up of Election Commission. We are also h:lving a political fund and election fund is a discussion on this matter. It can be matter which cannot be discussed very finalized only after the consultation is quickly and speedily. Therefore, I think, over. in all election matters, it is better we have elaborate consultations before we crystalise [English] proposals and put them before the political parties. We should not speedily finarsc SHRI DINESH : The the election process and elector"lI laws Election Commission is an independent which have stood the lest of time. Constitutional Body and when an indepen­ dent Constitutional Body has put forth SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI Where before the Government a set of proposals, there is a will there is away. what is the difficulty on the part of the Gov.:-rnment to make it public or to place [Translation] at least before the House to make it known to the Parliament Members and to By when you would be able to com­ the Opposition Parties what are the salient plete consultations so that this matter suggestions that have been proposed by the could be finalized at the earliest? Election Commission to the Government? IS Oral Answers FEBRUARY 2S, ~98' Oral AlUwe,.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Whether some feed back has, come from MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE the political parties and then we have (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): All those promised tbat sooner you WAllt a discus­ proposals which the Election Commission sion on this, we are ready for this. ~t to us have been c,irculated to political . parties earlier. That has been done. SHRI A.K. SEN: As far as I remember, subject to being corrected, throughout the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: procedure has been that the Government They are circulated and they are read out! first of all finalises the proposals which are circula ted to the various parties and t~ SHRI.DINESH GOSWAMI: Kindly the formal consultation with the political circulate to us. W-e have come now. parties takes place and uptill now usually we have only brought amendments before ~IR. SPEAKER: Late comers will the Parliament which have the sanction of also get. all the political parties and no controv~r.siaJ matter has ever been brought because we SHRI A .. K. SEN : The hon. Member have tried to keep the election law above will possibly bear in mind that a discussion party politics. . .in public is not very conducive to the finalisation of proposals before the pro­ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB: posals are finalised. Wait for a Mrs. Acqu ino to be created.

SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI : With a Production and cousumption of L.P.G. view to avoid repetition of examination of various proposals before the Government, + would the Government consider asking tbe *'25. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA : political parties to submit their detailed SHRI BANW ARI LAL memoranda on the proposals already sent PUROHIT: to them by the Ejection Commission? Ultimately when the Government is going Will the Minister of PETROLEUM to consult the Opposition Parties, since it AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to is going to be only a ritual, would the state : Government consider inviting memoranda from the political parties now itself ? (a) the annual production of L.P.G. in the country during the last three years ; MR. SPEAKER: So you believe in discussion ? (b) the approximate annual consump­ tion of LPG in the country ; SHRI H.R. BHARADW AJ: I think things are not clear. The E1ection Com­ (c) whether it is a fact that a Jarge mission proposes amendments in the number of applications are pending for election law and circulates them to all the the allotment of LPG connections; and political parties including our party and we receive their comments and we (d) if so, the steps being taken by discuss. We had a discussion earlier. Government to increase the production of Some were accepted and some were not LPG to meet the demand (1) accepted. For example, public funding of elections. That is a matter, which, as my senior told just now, requires a debate. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE With regard to other matters, I think we MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND also accepted certain proposals and we NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA enacted them. Now the election SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) to (d). A State­ the Assam elections and the 1984 elections men t is given below : ha ve given some clues to us as to how to stop certain things. All tbose proposals Statement have been circulated and J am going to (a) The annuaJ production of LPG in check up with the Election Commission the country during the last three years 17 PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) 18 wal as under : Is it a fact that the Government is 'releasing only less than 1} JaJdrs LPG Year MT connections every year? If so" how much time will it take to clear ~n the pending 1982-83 575,000 applications? Meanwhile-:the backlog will increase. So what is tbe programme before 1983-84 737,000 the Government to meet the demand of the people df th. country· ? 1984-85 873,000 The Minister in his rep1y has said that (b) The consumption of LPG in the they are going to commission some bottling country duriog the 1ast three years was as plants. What are those bottling' plants and under: what is -the time for their' etection and the time fOl' commissioning of those plants ? Year MT SHRI ~HANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH: 1982... 83 601,000 The hone ·Member has covered a very 'wide ground.. I would try to reco"llect all tne 1983-84 746,000 points raised by him and reply to them.

.1984-85 953,000 The ONGC fractionation plant at Hazira will be commissioned in February (c) As on 31.12.1985 around 37 1akhs 1987. The Barauni Refinery's coker plant applications were pending for allotment of was commissioned on January 9, 1986. All LPG connections. these stabilisation programmes at the refineries nlentioned have been completed. (d) LPG availability is likely to increase with the commissioning/stabilisa­ tion of the following: Now I wou1d like to exp1ain to the hon. Member the entire situation very (i) ONGC's fractionation plant at briefly. There are three points at which Hazira. the entire thing should move at a required pace or at the same pace. The availability Oi) Barauni Refinery's coker plant. of the LPG by the end of the 7th Plan period is going to be of the order of 2.38 (iii) Stabilisation of the expanded metric million- tonnes. LPG availability at capacities of the refineries at present includes production and some Cochin, Madras, Vishakhapatnanl imports. We have also in our country and Bombay (Hindustan Petro­ excess capacity for n1anufacturing of leum Corporation and Bharat cylinders. But the real bottleneck is that Petroleum Corporation). of bottling capacity. A t present, LPG-III is in operation and it would be completed (iv) Conlmissioning of additional by 1-4-88 which would raise the present bottling capacity. bottling capacity from 0.97 million tonnes to 1.6 million tonnes. But there would SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: The remain a gap between LPG availability and bon. Minister in his statement has replied bottling capacity, and we have proposed that as on 31.12.85 around 37 lakhs appli­ LPG-I V. The feasibility report is under cations were pending for a1Iotnlent of LPG preparation but the resource constraint has connecti~ns and the LPG availability is not allowed the Planning Conlmission to likely to increase with the commissioning give approval to some LPG bottling pro­ of and stabilisation of some projects. May jects as yet. So. this would leave a gap of I know from the hone Minister when these 0.78 million tonnes between LPG availa­ projects are going to be completed and bility and bottling capacity. If we are able what would be the production capacity to utilise the entire LPG by the end of after commissioning and stabilisation of the Seventh Plan period, then we would these plants? be raising our customer population from a 19 0,111 Answers FEBRUAR Y 25, 1986" 20 little over one crore at the end of this you have excess gas which you are ftaring. year 1985-86 to nearly two crores. ':fbe What exactly are your difficulties ? coverage would be of tbe order of 90 to 95 lakhs during the Seventh Plan period. SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH: But this depends on raising the bottling I exactly took the House into confidence capacity for which we are making efforts. to say as to what is the bottleneck ...•

SHRI CHINTAMANI lENA: My 'MR. SPEAKER: Bottleneck in bottl­ second supplementary would be whether ing. there is any programme before the Govern­ ment to popularise the bio-gas plant SHRICHANDRASHEKHARSINGH: called Dinabandhu, which is less costly, The reall bottleneck is in bottling capaoity. among the people in the rural areas so About the present capacity, the capacity that the demand for LPG will be tpinimis­ for cylinder-manufacturing in this country ed and if so, what is that programme. is very high-146 lakh cylinders. We would not be able to come up to that SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH: leveL There would always bet' ekcess Tbe programme is very much there. Bu t I capacity so far as cylinder-manuf..lcturing would not be able to give the details is concerned. As far as flaring is concern­ because it concerns another Ministry. ed, I would like to tell the House that flaring' is likely to become m-inimaJ very I Translation] soon in the Western Off-shore of India. But in the Assam Arakan area, flaring is SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: being done and it may continue for some Mr. Speaker, Sir, 37 lakh applications Were more time for two reasons because the gas pending in December, 1985. I want to fields are scattered over a wide area and know from the hone Minister the number some of the industries which are planned of applications, Ot't of 37 lakh applications, for utilisation of the gas available have not which are likely to be cleared by the come up in time. Government by the end of 1986 ? Recently, the A'Ssam [English] met me and I reiterated my offer that he should be able to utilise the gas avaifabl(!. SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH: We will make it available to them for The achievement till 31-12-85 was 12.70 setting up industries and power plants. Jakhs, and tbe tentative target for 1986-87 is 16 lakhs. This backlog will always AN HON. MEMBER: Why not bottl­ remain because new registrations will take ing is being done :n time? place. PROF. G.G. SWELL: I know that in SHRI G.G. SWELL: The Minister the north eastern India there is a great spoke about excess of gas cylinders in the demand for cooking gas. Why don't you country. It is also a tact that large quan­ supply it ? tities of our natural gas are being flared. And he talked about difficulties in bott1ing SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH: capacity. Now to us, laymen, aU that is The real difficulties are about the limited so much Greek .... bottling capacity. The bottling capacity has to be raised. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: He is not a layman, he is an intellectual. PROF. G.G. SWELL: We want to know what is the bottleneck. MR. SPEAKER: He is talking about bottling. Bottling can be done in many SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH: ways. The gas that is available in the north east is planned to be used by some industries. SHRI G.G. SWELL: It does not make ' There are a number of industries which are reason to us, You have e~cess cylinders, being set up. The)' do not come up in 21 Oral Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Oral Anlwers 22

time b~ause of so many other constraints, THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY because of the situation there and the (SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIWARI): resources factor. They are trying to do it There is nothing irregular I'would like to and they want us to commit ourselves to assure the Hon. Member. There are only make the gas available to them for setting regular collaborations. For some time up industries. talks are going on with dIfferent collabora­ tors and these are mentioned in the Press. In so far as the bottling capacity for So, it will refer to that. the entire country is concerned, there ~s a definite constraint. This is likely to become Coming to the nUlnber of collabora­ absolute if they don't increase it further tions, mainly these collaborations refer during the 7th Plan period. to the advent of new ranges of vehicles which are being introduced in the country and which require new specifications and Coilaboration agreements for a uto parts new standards regarding the components with Japan availability.

*26. SfiRI BRAJAMOHAN The Hon. Member is aware of the MOHANTY : Will the Minister of automotive transformation that is going INDUSTR Y be pleased to state: on in the country. New models are com­ ing in the \rarious fields, two wheelers, (a) the number of collaboration agree­ three wheelers and four wheelers and these ments signed during the last two years require new components. It is essential, for manufdcture of auto parts with Jdpan rather quint essential for tte development and other countries; of the auto industry that we should have the new components. (b) whether any study has been con­ ducted about the impact of such coHabo .. The Hon Member would be happy to ration on indigenous manufacturers ; and know that many among these auto ancillary industries which are now manu­ (c) if so, the details thereof? f,lcturing indigenous auto ancin~ries are also collaborating for manufacture of these new type of components. As I have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mentioned in my repJy, out of 83, 22 are DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL with Japanese manufacturers; out of 22, DEVELOPMENT (SHRI 1\.1. ARUNA­ 12 are of the existing manufacturers. Out CHALAM) : (a) During 1984 and 1985, of 83, 43 manufacturers are also 83 regular foreign colluborations have existing manufacturers. They are fully been approved in the auto ancil1ary sector. participating in modernising their techno­ Out of this 22 collaborations are with logy in the field of au to ancillaries. Japanese manufacturers. SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: (b) & (c). No, Sir. Sir, in part (b) of my question I had asked whether any study has been conducted SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: about the impact of such collaboration on Out of the 83 regular collaborations, I indigenous manufacturers. The reply to don't know how many irrcgul..lr collabora­ this is that no study has been conducted. tions are there. May I know whether the So far as existing Indian industry is con­ technology transfer is stipulated in the cerned they are entering into collaboration collaborCttion agreement. If so, of which but my question would be Vthether by this category ; viz., not available in the country collaboration the Indian Indigenous indus­ that is being imported or available but to try will be affected and also when it wiJl be meet the high domestic requirement it is possible for complete indigenisation of being imported or to promote the export the technology? potentiality; in respect of which of these categories how many collaboration. agree­ SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIWARI: ments have been entered into, I may assure th~ hon. Member that in 23 Or"z Answers FEBRUAR y. 25, 1916 24 substance our indigenous capability would The hon. Member would agree with me not be Affected.. It, wiH get upgraded and that we are passing through a phase of modernised wh'ich is necessary in the industrialization. In the context of modern times. By and large the ancillary industrialization, it is necessary to raise industry itself has welcomed, such deve­ the efficiency of petrol per litre. This is )opment in the field of automative industry. very vital. Today, fuel efficient engines They have welcomed it and it was evident are being produced throughout the world. in the Auto-Expo '86 Exhibition which was The usefulness of Maruti vehicle is that it recently held at Pragati Maidan. gives more mileage per litre. Therefore., our intention is to import such technolosy SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: When we as may reduce petroleum consumption and enter in to colla bora tion agreemen ts in the vehicles give more mileage. regard to basic models, should we also encourage separate collaboration agree­ SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL : ments in regard to ancillary parts? Is that When we are going ahead to reduce the best way of indigenising the modern petroleum consumption by modernising the technology. At this rate where do you auto industry, is there any proposal before draw the line, I would like to know from the Government to convert - in~ustrial the Minister ? alcohol i-nto gasolene, as has been done by Brazil, tQ reduce petroleum consump­ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: It tion ? is a piecemeal method. SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIWARI: SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIWARI: Although the suggestion of the hone The hone Member would agree that both Member is worth considering, yet in are essential keeping in view the modern today~s context, we cannot compare our­ technological requirements. In most of selves with Brazil. the advanced countries in the world, ancillary development is also considered Sir, Sugar is not porduced from Sugar­ very essential so that the requirements of cane is Brazil. They manufacture alcohol basic models are also met thereby. So, I from sugarcane; only a negligible quantity would suggest that there is no harm in of sugar is produced from sugarcane. laIn this. It is rather the usual procedure in told and so far as my information goes, most of the countries. that sugarcane in Brazil is used only for making alcohol. As against this, we in our [Trans/ation} country manufacture m'linly sugar from sugarcane. Thereafter, it is used in SHRI NARESH CHANDRA molasses, etc. CHATURVEDI: Mr. Speaker, Sir, a number of coUaborations are being signed [English] to promote auto industry and a Jot of emphasis is being given in this regard. Foreign aid for power leneration But an essential item which would be required to run these automobiles is *28. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE petroleum. When the price of petroleum PATIL : Will the Minister of ENERGY was raised recently, one of the pleas given be pleased to state : was to curb its consumption, but on the other hand, you are expanding the (a) whether Government are consider­ auto industries all along and are manufac­ ing a proposal to seek foreign aid during turing the vehic1es in a large number, the Seventh Five Year Plan period for which would tend to increase the petroleum installing 10,000 MW additional generating consumption. Therefore, I wou1d like to capacity of power in the country; nnd ask the hone Minister whether he would effect a cut on this Inode of transport or (b) jf so, the details thereof? would he go on expanding this industry? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIWARI: DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI· ~HAL~UNA 6i 1M? (SARA) Oral AM'WetI

ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN): (a) A Such projects would be selected on merit. number of power projects have been set Targets for power projects in all the Plans up with external assistance including are fixed for five years and based on funds received from International Financial the$e targets, the achievements are Institutions, bilateral aid as well as assis­ reviewed. tance from various consortia. This practice would continue during the VII Plan. The SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL : extent to which foreign assistance would I had asked whether a 15 year plan was be availed of will be determined by the formulated? But no repJy to this is quantum of additk)nal internal resources forthcoming. availaoJe after appraisal of the first year's plan performance. My second supplementary is that what was the quantum of foreign assistance (b) Projects f~r which full provision has during the Sixth Five Year Plan and how nOl been l1'\ade or no provision is available much capacity we installed or commissi.oD­ in the Seventh Plan but which are amenable ed to-date and how much capacity is to a quick start and are of regional expected to be installed during the Seventh importance are being posed for external Plan period with the foreign assistance ? assistance and each proposal will be con­ sidered on its merits. I have my third supplementary also. The Prime Minister had given an assurance [Translation] in the House that there would be no shortage of power during the Seventh Five SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL : Year Plan. I want to know the out1ine of Mr. Speaker, Sir, the question asked by the scheme through which you propose to me was: meet the shortage because how will you be able to fulfil the assurance when you [English] are still at the stage of mobilisation of funds? "Whether Government are con­ SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: sidering a proposal to seek foreign The total power generation capacity in aid during the Seventh Fi ve Year Plan the country at present is 45,000 M.W. In period for installing 10,000 M. W. the begining of the Sixth Five Year Plan, additional generation capacity of the total generation capacity was 28,000 power" ? M.W. It shows that the generation capa­ city has increased by about 50 per cent [Trans/atitm] during the Sixth Plan. The Barve SUlvey Committee was appointed to assess the No reply has been given to this. If we requirement of power in the country by go by our Five Year Plans, we are the end of the Seventh Five Year Plan and marching ahead. In the beginin8 of the the plan outlay for this Sector. This Sixth Five Year Plan, it was stated that committee recommended additional capa­ we were going to evolve a IS year long city of 30595 M. W. and an outlay of Rs. term plan. I want to know why no decision 65,000 crores in the Seventh -rifrJan. ~ \ But has so far been taken, keeping in view due to resource constraint, cuts were that; ,15 year long term plan? At least effected .and these cuts hit the Department thi6 decision should have been taken for of Power also. We got a little over Rs. the Seventh Plan period and the alloca­ 34,000 crores in the Seventh Plan and we tions made for power as demanded by us. set a target of installing 22245 M. W. addi­ tional capacity in the Seventh Plan. But SffRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN : according to the estimates of that commi­ Sir, as I told earlier, some projects can be ttee, the gap between the demand and the taken up in the Seventh Ptan also and installed capacity after the installation of forei-ln assistance for such power projects additional 22000 M. W. Capacity was about caB be sought in the same way as we have 10,000 M.W. Now the hone Prime been doing in the previouS five year plam. Minister has issued directives that there 27 Oral Answers YEDRUAR.Y 2S, 1986 Oral AnsWel'1 should be no shortage of power by the Imbalance in iDdustriaHsatioD due to disparity end of the Seventh Plan and'- that this gap in investment i. public aad private sectors should be bridged during this period. Hence, efforts are being made to mobilize *29. SHRI HARISH RAWAT ; Will resources for that within the country as the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to also through external assistance, proposals state : for whkh are under consideration. As I (a) the per Capita amount invested on told you earlier, each proposal will be industrialisation under public and private examined by the Departnlent of Power sectors separately in various States by the from tech~ical angles and thereafter it will end of the Sixth Fiv~ Year Plan ; be examined by the Department of Economic Affairs for the terms and con­ (h) whether it is a fact that this ditions of financial package and based on disparity in investment has led to great these aspects, a decision will be taken on imbalance in the pace of industrialisation merit. in various States; and (c) if so, the action proposed to be SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VY AS : Hon. taken by his Ministry to bridge this gap Speaker, Sir, as the hon. Minister has said during the current Plan period? just now that the projects would be select­ ed on merit, I want to know what de THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY merit remains when the hone Prime (SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIWARI); Minister has hinlself said that generation (a) to (c). A statement is given below. would be increased to the maximum. In view of this, will Rajasthan, the most Statement deficit state, be selected on merit for setting up of a power project? (a) to (c). State-wise data on the amount invested on industrialisation in public and private sectors separately are MOHAMMAD KHAN: SHRI ARIF not available. The Central Statistical Hon. Speaker, Sir, I have already said Organisation collects data on Factory that the Prime Minister has giv.en direc­ Sector through annual surveys of industry. tions that there should be no gap between. An annexure indicating total and per the demand and the installed capacity. capita invested capital in the Factory Our Plan is for the entire country and it Sector, based on the Annual Survey of will be our endeavour to see that this gap Industries 1982-83 Sumlnary Results and does not exist in any part of the country. 1981 Census, is annexed.

SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS: Mr. The pace of industrialisation in a Speaker, Sir, I had particularly asked region or a State depends, besides invest­ about Rajasthan. ments in industry, on a variety of factors like natural endowments, availability of infrastruchtre, raw material, skilled man... SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN: power, entrepreneurial initiative, industrial Rajasthan is also a state of this country. relation

ANNEXURE

Statement showing State-wise Total and Per Capita "Invested Capital" in the Factory Sector (Based on the Annual Survey of Industries 1982-83 Summary Results and 1981 Census).

State Total Invested Per Capita Capita1* Invested Capital· (Rs. Crores) (Rupees)

Andhra Pradesh 3572.56 667

Assam 557.29 280

Bihar 5962.54 853

Gujarat 5660.31 1660

Haryana 1760.70 1363

Himachal Pradesh 517.15 1208

Jammu & Kashmir 171.41 286

Karnataka 2708.74 729

Kerala 1692.66 665

Madhya Pradesh 4542.27 871

Maharashtra 10796.86 1720

Manipur 3.04 21

Megha]aya 92.54 691

Nagaland Negligible Negligible

Orissa 1761.34 668

Punjab 2457.45 1464

Rajasthan 2305.23 673

Tamil Nadu 504J.58 1041

Tripura 17.30 84

Uttar: Pradesh 6853.03 618

Wes(Bengal 5284.35 968

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• Provisional. SHRf HARIStI RA W AT: HOD .. WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Speaker, Sir) the fi nancial institutions also p]ay an important role in industrial deve­ [English] lopment. I want to know the state-wise investment made by various financial Capacity utilisation by Dew ee.eot IlDita institutions? If there is some disparity in the mdtter of investment, what instructions *27. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI­ are pre posed to be issued to the central GRAHl: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY institutic)1s to bridge the gap? be pleased to state :

SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIWARI: (a) the number of such new cement Sir, the figures presented before this units which have not achieved fun capacity augu~t House relate to the installed capa­ uti1i~ation as against the national average city and the investment made and the of 76 per cent; and major part of this investment has been nlude by the financial institutions. Hence, (b) the measures Government propose the per capita invested capital shown in to take to emphasise upon the management the statement actually indicates the quan­ of such units for redeeming their promise tum of investment made in a particular of making cement available to consumers State by the financial institutions. Sir, in at reasonable price? future .... THE MINISTER OF INDUSTR Y SHRI HA RISH RAW AT: What the (SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIWARI): Government is doing to bridge the gap, if (a) & (b). Out of new large cement plants there is any? which had gone into production during the years 1982-83 to 1985-86 (upto December, SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIWARI: 1985), capacity utilisation in respoXt of A committee !las been set up under the four units in the current year has been chairmanship. of secretary (Planning), Shri above l00~~. In respect of one unit, the Somayya which is going into the entire capacity utilisation was 90%. Out of eight question and this question is very impor­ units where capacity utilisation was below tant that financial institutions should 76%, two units had commenced l)roduction contribute more for increasing industrial only in 1985-86 and, therefore, it would production in backward areas and for take them some time to stabi1is~ their setting up more industries there. The production. The low capacity utilisation financial institution will certainly be in respect of other six units was due to consulted in the matter. internal constraints as wel1 as external SHRI HARISH RAW AT: True to his constraints. With a view to help the units humble nature, the hon. Minister has in over-coming the external constraints given a polite and ba1anced reply to my such as supply of wagons, coa1 and power, harsh question. I want to know from him etc., the Development Commissioner for what the Government propose to do to - Cement Industry has been holdin, regular remove disparity in the matter of invest­ meetings with the Cement Manufacturers, ment in differetlt states? Coal Department, Railway autherities etc. It may be mentioned that there has been SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIWARI: overall increase in the production of Sir, most humbly, I would say that the cement in the country from 23.32 milJion harshness which he has not shown in his in 1982-83 to estimated 32.S0 million question, that harshness ... tonnes in 1985-86. Consequently, cement is now more easily a vailable in the market MR. SPEAKER: You want to meet at comparitively reasonable prices. the harshness with politeness? Auto-Expo '86 Exhibition SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIWARI: I want to say forcefully in proportion to *30. DR. KRUPASINDHU BROI : the harshness. (Interruptions) SHRI ANAND SINGH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be 33 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answers 34

pleased to state: evaluated or about the pro.: ~dures adopt­ ed in that regard ; and (a) the main features/purposes and objective of the Auto-Expo '86 Exhibition (f) if so, the nature of objections which was held in New Delhi in January, raised and the reaction of the Government 1986 ; thereon?

(b) whether any export orders for THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Indian automobiles were booked in this MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND exhibition; and NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) No, Sir. (c) if so, the details thereof? (b) to (d). The recommendations receiv­ ed from Gas Authority of India Limited on THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY the award of contract for the construction (SHRI NARAYAN DUT'T TIWARI): of the HB] pipeline are being examined by (a) To commemorate their silver jubilee, the Government. Auto-Expo '86 was organised jointly by the Association of Indian Automobile (e) & (f). It will not be in the public Manufacturers (AIAM) and Automotive Component Manufacturers Association of interest to disclose the details at this stage. India (ACMA), in association with Associ~­ tion of Indian Engineering Industry (AIEI), primarily as an exposition of the technolo­ Setting up of oil terminal at Paradeep Port gical capability of the Indian automobile in Orissa industry. *32. SHRIMATI JA YANTI PATNAIK : Will the Minister of PETRO­ (b) No, Sir. LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased (c) Does not arise. to state:

(a) whether the Hindustan P~troleum Decision taken on H. B. J. pipeline Corporation is considering the question of *31. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: setting up an oil terminal at P..1radeep in Orissa; SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: (b) whether the P ~radeep Port Trust Will the Minister of PETROLEUM Authority have since earmarked suit.:lbJe AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to site for the location of the oil terminal; state: (c) if so, the reasons for delay in the (a) whether a decision on the foreign establishment of oil terminal at Paradeep ; consortium to implement the Hazira­ and Bijaipur-Jagdishpur gas pipeline project has been finalised ; (d) the steps taken to expedite the implementation of the above proposal? (b) if not, the reasons for the delay; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) the terms and conditions on which MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & the contract is proposed to be given; NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SlNGH) : (a) The feasibility (d) the date by which the final decision of putting up an oil terminal at Paradeep is likely to be taken ; in Orissa in the Seventh PLtn period has been reviewed by Hindustan Petroleum (e) whether Government have received Corporation, but owing to fiollncial con­ representations from certain firms that straints, no progress has been made in their tenders have not been properly this regard. Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answers 36

_ ) Yes, Sir. initiated for creation of these circles. It is not possible to indicate the likely dates of (c) & (d). As stated in the reply to the creation of new circles. part (a) above, there has been no progress on this proposal owing to financial con­ straints. Production of energy through domestic wute

Separate telecom. and postal circles for *34. SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU :

# Himachal Pradesb, Punjab and Will the Minister of ENERGY lte pleased to state : *33. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR: Will the Minister of (a) whether there is shortage of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: power supply to industries in almost all the States and whether 'domestic waste' can (a) whether a decision has been taken be used for producing energy; to create separate telecom. and postal circles for , Punjab and (b) if so, whether there is any proposal Haryana by trifurcating the existing North­ to set up 'domestic waste recycling plants' Western Circles; in order to produce energy;

(b) if so, the action taken so far in (c) if so. in which States; and this regard and the likely date and venue of the creation and location of the separate (d) if not, the reasons therefor? circles; and

(c) if not, the likely date by which a THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI decision would be taken and the date with V ASANT SATHE) : (a) Yes, Sir. effect from which they would be created?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) & (c). Waste recycHng plants to MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS produce energy from sewage waste are in (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) operation at Delhi, Maharashtra, Uttar Postal: Yes, Sir. A decision has been Pradesh, , Tamil Nadu, Madhya taken to create separate Postal Circles for Pradesh etc. Such plants are also proposed Himachal Pradesh and Punjab by trifurca­ to be set up in cities along the Ganga ting the North-Western Circle. (under the Ganga Action Plan) and other cities in India. A pilot plant for generation Telecom: No, Sir. of power from municipal solid wastes is under installation at Timarpur, Delhi. (b) & (c). Postal: Postmasters General, This project on commissioning in March Himachal Pradesh and Punjab will take 1987 will incinerate 300 MT of garbage cbarge of the two proposed Circles at per day and generate 3.75 MWe. Additional Ambala. Orders to this effect will be power-frorn-waste plants are also proposed issued as soon as approved officers are to be set up in other cities in different available. Thereafter, the headquarters of States. Some individual as well as com­ the two Circles will be shifted to munity and institutional biogas plants Cbandigarh and Simla at a convenient date linked to latrines for extraction of energy subject to availability of suitable accommo­ from waste through biogas have also been dation and sanction of supporting staff in set up in Gujarat, Mahardshtra, Punjab, the light of the present ban on creation of Blhar, Andhra Pradesh, Orissa, , etc. It is proposed to extend this I posts. programme so that sanitation as well as Telecom: The Government has approv­ energy recovery can be provided in villages ed creation of Posts of General Managers as welJ as towns. for the new Telecom. Circles of Himachal Pradesh and Punjab. Action has to be (d) Not applicabJe. 37 PHALGUNA 6. 1907 (SAKA) Written AlAlw"s

ketQ&loD! 0( 4e-licenied iadustries from Will the Minister of IN::lUSTRY be provlsieDs of M.R.T.P. Act pleased to sta te :

*35. DR.. T. KALPANA DEVI : Will (a) whether Governm.?nt have recently the Minister of INDUSTRY be pJeased to decided to de.. rescrve a large oomber of state : items reserved for the smaH-scale industry sector; (a) whether Government have decided to exempt all de-licensed industries includ­ (b) the reasons for de-reserving such ing shipping and hotel from the provisions a large number of items and whether of the Monopolies and Restrictive Trade it will adversely affect the growth of the Practices Act; small-scale industry sector ;

(b) if so, the details thereof; (c) the criteria followed in taking a decision for de-reservation; and (c) the advantages of the above mea­ sure; and (d) the incentives proposed to be provided to stimulate growth of small­ (d) whether it is not a departure from scale industry sector? the Industrial PoHcy followed so far? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIWARI): (SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIW ARJ) : (a) & (b). Reservation IDe-reservation of (a) & (b). The Centra] Government has items for manufacture in the smdll scale exempted the following industries from sector is a continuing process. Government the requirement of obtaining an approva 1 of India has appointed a Reservation under the Monopolies and Restrictive Committee under the Industries (Develop­ Trade Practices Act, 1969 : ment & Regulation) Act to make reco­ mmendations in respect of items which (i) Shipping Industry; should be reserved for exclusive production in the small scale sector. Decisions are (ii) Hotel Industry; and taken on the basis of recommendations made by this Committee Government has (iii) Delicensed Industries. received certain recommendations from this CommIttee. Government decision will The exemption has been notified in exer­ be taken in due course. cise of the powers vested in the Central Government under Section 22A of the (c) The following types of industries said Act. are generally considered for de-reservation:

(c) The basic approach behind the I. Industries where large imports are measure is to channelise investment by being allowed and/or where large the large industrial houses in the above scale smu ggling may be taking industries which are either capital intensive place. in nature or are prone to risks or involve sephisticated technology or would result II. Industries in high technology areas in the development of no-industry districts or those requiring greater impetus in the country. for promoting exports 'Which should necessarily be of large size (d) No, Sir. in order to reduce costs and be competitive internationally. De-reserving of items reserved for

small sector III. Industries where b~cause of con­ straints on size, the small sector .36. SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI: is unable to ensure quality pro­ SHRIIMOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI duction and cannot induct mod~rn KHAN: technology. 39 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written A.nswers 40

(d) Incentives provided for stimulating 12. Assistance for modernisation of growth of small scale industries inter-alia se1ected industries. include: 13. Ancillary development through 1. Fiscal concessions in the matter Joint Plant Committees of Public of excise duty. Sector Undertakings.

2. Priority in the disbursement of DMT prices loans by financial institutions on concessional rates of interest on *37. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY liberal terms. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : 3. Consultancy service, common facilities and technical assistance (a) whether it is a fact that though through Sma]] Industries Service Government recently reduced the pooled Institutes and Extension Centres. price of methanol a raw olaterial mixed with paraxylenc to make DMT, from Rs. 4. Testing facilities through Regional 6800 to Rs. 6300 per tonne, the three DMT Testing Centres and Field Testing manufacturers have not yet brought down Stations. DMT prices in line with Government's announcement; and s. Assistance in the procurement of scares raw materials (indigenous (b) if so, the steps proposed to be taken to determine fair prices for po]yester and imported). fibre and polyester filament yarn made 6. Reservation of industries for out of DMT ? exclusive manufacture in the THE MINlSTElt OF INDUSTRY small scale sector. (SHRI NARAYAN DUTT TIWARI): (a) The reduction announced by the 7. Reservation of items for exclusive Government in the pooled price of metha­ purchase by Government from nol from 1st December, 1985 has not small scale sector. resulted in any reductio,1 in the selling price of D MT. 8. Supply of plant and machinery on hire purchase basis through (b) The fdir selling prices for polyester National Small Industries Corpo­ staple fibre and polyester filament yarn ration. are proposed to be determined through cost study by BICP. 9. Marketing assistance by National Small Industries Corporation Short filling of gas in LPG cylinders through formation of consortia, organisation/participation in exhi­ *39. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER­ bitions/fairs in India and abroad, JEE: arrangement of buyer-seller meet, etc. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: 10. Assistance in exports. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM 11. Provision of training facilities in AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to .Small Industries Service Institutes, State : Prototype Development & Train­ ing Centres, National Institute (a) whether it ;s a fact that a number for Entrepreneurship and Small of LPG cylinders were found to be short Business Development, National in weight following surprise raids in Institute of Small Industry Exten­ various LPG bottling plants in the capital sion Traiuing, Tool Rooms, etc. and 41 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answers

(b) if so, the details thereof and action projects is to be achieved according to the being taken by Government in this new schedule? regards? , THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF ST ATE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND MOHAMMAD KHAN: (a) & (b). Out NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA of 28 hydro units with a capacity of 1167.S SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) & (b). The MW programmed for commissioning during Weights and Measures Department of the 1985-86, 3 units with a total capacity of Delhi Administrdtion inspected on January 95.5 MW are likely to slip. The delay in 7 and January 14. 1986, respectively the commissioning of these units is likely to be LPG bottling plants at Shakurbasti of the about 6 to 9 months which is primarily due Indian Oil Corporation and the Bharat to slippages in completion of civil const­ Petroleum Corporation. ruction and hydro mechanical works. Escalation in cost in respect of these units At IOC's plant, out of the 12 cylinders will be known after the projects are com­ checked, 10 were found short in weight, pleted. by 400 to 900 grams one was found having excess weight of 300 gL1ms and one was (c) Central Electricity Authority is ,dccurately filled. At BPe's plant, 7 out of monitoring the implementation of these 20 cylinders checked were found short in projects and have been discharging this weight by 150 to 1100 grams, 9 had excess function in a satisfactory manner. weight by 100 grams to 1450 grams and 4 were accurately filled. (d) These units are likely to be com­ missioned during 1986-87. The need for The oil companies are carrying out urgent effective project management and close maintenance of the mnchines and streng­ monitoring is being constantly emphasised thening the internal checking and control on project authorities. Central Electricity systems in order to minimise the erratic Authority is also monitoring the comple­ functioning of the automatic filling machines tion of these projects on regular basis. and the weighing systems. Acquiring of disproportioaate assets by Delay in completion of hydel power projects officials in public sector undertakings

224. SHRI PURNA CHANDRA *40. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE: MALIK: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased be pleased to state: to state: (a) the policy of Government in regard (a) the hydel power projects in the co­ to the officials in public sector undertak­ untry that have been further delayed in the ings acq uiring assets disproportionate to process of their completion by the end of their known income; 1985 stating the period for which delayed and the reasons therefor; (b) how many such cases have been reported so far from units like Coal India, (b) the estimated cost escalation in Steel Authority of India Ltd., State Trad­ respect of each of these projects; ing Corporation, Metals and Mineral Trading Corporation, Oil India, Oil and (c) the nature of the Central agency, Natural Gas Commission, Projects and if any, monitoring the implem(.ntation of Development India Limited., Engineering these projects and how Government evnlu­ Projects Ltd., Hindustan Steel Construc­ ~te its working; and tion Ltd. and similar other major public sector undertakings; and (d) the time by which! the ongoing hyde] pOWer projects and now likely to be (c) whether the officers of these completed and the manner in which the undertakings against whom cases have completion and commissioning .of these been reported were suitably prosecuted? 43 Written Answers FEBRUARY 2S, 19$6 Written .4n.JlNu

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether the Chairman, Karnataka DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL State Electricity Board has stated tbat . DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ upto 15 Mega Watt of power could be CHALAM) : (a) Model Conduct, Discip­ produced from the garbage in the Banga- line and Appeal Rules, illter alia provide lore city ; . that possession of pecuniary resources or prof)Crty disproportionate to the known (b) if so, whether Centre is proposiDI sources of income by the employee or on any scheme to produce power energy from his behalf by another person, which the garbage; and employee cannot satisfactorily account for, will be treated ~s misconduct. (c) if so, the details thereof? (b) & (c). Information about the number of cases reported from nlajor THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI public sector units is not readil:' available. V ASANT SA THE): (a) The Chairman, The same is being collected and will be Karnataka Electricity Board had indicated laid on the Table of the House. that according to certain estimates, 10 to 15 MW of power could be produced from the garbage of Bangalore. Pilferage from CCL mines in Talcber

225. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will (b) & (c). The Centre is implementing the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to a Project at T imarpur, Delhi which will state: incinerate 300 MT of garbage per day and will have an installed capacity of 3.75 MW. (a) whether his attention has been This Project is due for commissioning in drawn to the neWs item 'Pilferage from March 1987. It is proposed to have energy Central Coalfields Limited mines in from garbage plants set up in other Indian Takher' appearing in the 'Financial cities as well. The detailed analysis of Express', New Delhi, dated the 4 February, garbage is under progress in some cities 1986 ; and the technical feasibility will be ascertained after completion of these (b) if so, the details thereof; and analysis.

(c) the steps which are proposed to be taken to stop this pilferage which is U pgradation of sub-post offices in district depriving the Centre and the State Govern­ Kbargone in Madhya Pradesh ment of a huge amount of revenue? 227. SHRI SUBHASH Y ADA V : THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS VASA NT SATHE) : (a) Yes, Sir. be pleased to state :

(b) The newsitem refers to illegal (a) the names and number of sub-post mining of coal and pilferage of coal from offices, which are likely to be upgraded in collieries of Cer.traI Coalfields Limited the district of Kahrgone in Madhya in Talcher. Pradesh ; and

(c) The information is being collected (b) the time by which these will be and will be laid on the Table of the upgraded? House.

Sdaeae for production of power energy THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE from garbage MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) & 226. SHRI NARSING SURYA- (b). There are no proposals at present for W ANSHI,: Will the Minister of ENERGY upgradation of any sub post office· in the be pl~ed, to ltate : district of .Khargone in Madltya Pradeab.l 45 Written Answers PHAtGUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) Written A.nswer8 46

Fiscal policies obstructing growth of small (d) if so, the steps Government have scale ODitS taken to check such companies and action taken against them; and 228. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (e) the details of method adopted by state : Government to check the quality of medicines produced by the licensed manu­ (a) whether it has been noticed in the facturers ? past that India's fiscal policy had in some respect been obstructing the growth of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE small scale units ; DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETROCHEMICALS (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA SINGH): (a) & (b). To (b) if so,~ whether Government have the extent details are available, there are decided to remove all fiscal disincentives about 253 units in the organised sector in the way of the growth of small indus­ which are manufacturing drugs and tries into medium and large scale indus- pharmaceuticals. Out of these, 10 are tries; and FERA companies, having direct foreign equity exceeding 40%. (c) the steps Government have taken or propose to take to remove factors (c) To the extent information is avail­ responsible in this regard? able, no company in the organised sector is engaged in the production of drugs THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE without any industrial approval. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAl:. DEVE­ LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ (d) Does not arise. CHALAM): (a) to (c). Small Scale Units are provided fiscal concessions in the (e) Companies engaged in the manu­ matter of excise duty and priority in the facture of drugs have to comply with the disbursement of loans by financial institu­ provisions of the Drug & Cosmetic Act,. tions on concessional rates of interest on 1940 and the rules thereunder which are liberal terms. Government policy bas, administered by the State Governments. therefore, all along aimed at promoting the small 'scale units. The concessions Establishment of cement factory in Chbota granted to such units are reviewed from Udaypur (Baroda) time to time with a view to accelerate their growth. 230. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Pharmaceutical industries~in India and check pleased to state : on production of drugs (a) whether Government are aware 229. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: that there are deposits of lime stone in Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be the area of Chhota U daypur in Baroda pleased to state = district in Gujara t ;

(a) the num ber of pharmaceutical (b) whether Government propose to industries functioning in India; establish a cement factory in public sector in that area; (b) the number of foreign pharmaceuti­ cal industries out of them : (c) if so, the details thereof; and

(c) whether it is a fact that there are (d) if not, the other measures being a large number of unlicensed manufac­ taken to utilise the lime stone ? turers of drugs running their business in t~ country and they are producing poor THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Quality drugs ; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL 47 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answers 48

DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M ARUNA­ MANDAL: Will the Minister of INDUS­ CHALAM) : (a) According to the TRY be pleased to state : , there are no limestone deposits suitable for the manu­ (a) whether Government are raISIng facture of cement in Chhota Udaipur the ceiling on remuneration for Corporate area of Baroda district in Gujarat. Managers, who are already the highest paid persons in the country; (b) to (d). Do not arise. (b) whether Government are also Rise in price of coal proposing to do away with the need for conlpanies to take prior approval for fixing 231. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD the remuneration every time a Managing SETHI: Will the Minister of ENERGY Director is appointed; be pleased to state: (c) if so the reasons therefor and (a) whether Government have recently whether any guidelines have been or are raised the prices of coal; being laid down in this behalf, the broad ou tlines thereof; (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and (d) whether Government are also (c) whether the PI~nning Commission considering to do away with the need to has also approved n is proposal after publish the names of the employees studying the growth a~0r,gwith its reco­ drawing more than Rs. 36,000 a year in mmendations ? the BaldI1ce Sheets of the Company ; and

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (e) if so, the considerations which V ASANT SATHE): (a) & (b). C02] prices have weighed with them in doing so ? fixed w.e.f. 8.1.1984 on the recommenda­ tions of the Bureau of Industrial Costs & THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Prices, were due fer revision w.e.f. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL 1.4.1985. Since then, there has been DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ significant increase in the cost of produc­ CHALAM) : (a) to (e). In view of the tion of coal on account of escaldtion in recommendations of the High-Powered the cost of inputs such as stores, explo­ Expert Committee on Companies and sives, timber etc., increase in wages due M.R. T.P. Acts (Sachar Gommittee) and to rise in the ceiling for grant of bonus/ex .. severa I represen tations received, Govern­ gratia, revision of r~tes of Industridl D.A., ment is considering certain amendments to increase in underground allowance etc., the Companies Act. Proposals in this behalf increase in the price of petro1, oil and ha ve not yet been finalised. lubricant (POL), increase in Railway freight/fare, higher incidenc~ of deprecia­ tion and interest charges etc. Functioning of Public Service Telephones in Delhi Coal India Limited, therefore, requested for upward revision of coal prices and the 233. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: same was considered by Government and Will the l'vlinister of COMMUNICATIONS the pit-head prices of co::l have been be pleased to state: revised w.e.f. 9.1.19~6- (Ol) whether it is a fact that even in (c) Planning Commission concurred metropoJitan cities like Delhi the 'Public in the proposal of the Department of Coal Service Telephone' like '199', '198' and for revision of coal prices_ '191' often do not respond at all even during day time; Increase in ceiling on remuneration for Corporate Managers (b) whether these public service tele­ phones are expected to work 24 hours a ~z. SHRI SANAT KUMAR day; 49 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers

(c) the reasons taken for such a state (i) Installation of automatic exchange of affairs ; and of appropriate type at that station.

(d) the steps taken to make these (ii) ins(dllation of reIiahle transmis­ services dependable? sion medium required for linking that station to national network. THE MINISTER OF STATE OFTHE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (iii) Installation of appropriate termi­ (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (u) nation in the trunk automatic exchange to No, Sir. which the station is to be connected.

(b) Yes, Sir. (iv) Inst~llation of required termina­ ting equipment iiI the local exchange of (c) III view of reply at (a) and (b) that station. above question dces not arise. The above items of work in case of (a) To improve Directory Enquiry is likely to be completed during Service '197' it is proposed to computerise the 7th PJan perjod an:i STn facility will the same. Also daily test calls are made be provided thereafter. to '197', '198' and '197' services and remedial action is taken wherever any [English] deficiency is found. Appointment of retired persons in Bharat [Translation) Heavy ElectricaJs Limited

STD facility for metropolita n cities from 235. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the in Bihar Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to state : 234. SHRI CHA.NDRA KISHORE PATHAK: Will the Minister of COMMU­ (a) the names of the officers who are NICATIONS be pleased to state: ~till workipg in Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited after completing 58 years of age (a) the names of the major cities and (or after their retirement) as heads/consul­ metropolitan cities for which STD facility tants/advisers etc. giving their age as on is av,lilable from SahpfsJ. district in Bihar; 31st December. 1985, designation, quaHfi .. cati~ns, fieJd of acti\ity salary and perks; (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and and

(c) the time by which STn facility is (b) Government's policy regarding proposed to be provided for those metro­ appointment of such retired persons? politan cities for which it has not been provided? THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS CHALAM): (a) The names of officers with (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) At the requisite details are given in the present Saharsa district headquarter in attached statenlent. Bihar is not having S. T. D. f~~cilities with major cities and nletropolitan cities. (b) It is GO\ crnment's Policy that extension/re-employment of officers beyond (b) & (c). The provision of STD faci­ the age of their superannuation should be Jities to a place is depend~nt upon the resorted to only in exceptional circum­ completion of following items of work. stances. PEBRUAR\' 25, 1986 Wrlttm A,,_m

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Applicability of Iiberalised licensing policy and electric vehic1es have been developed. to drug industry Work is continuing to utilise these sources wherever feasible and also to develop more 236. SHRI NARESH CHANDRA economical systems. CHATURVED1: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (c) Does not arise.

(a) whether the recent liberalisation of [English] the liccr5i: g policy is applicable to the di ug iIldu!:>try, including MRTP, FERA Toning up of coal management and ex-FERA conlpanies ; and 240. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) if not, the reasons for excluding these companies from the benefits of (a) whether coal is becoming costlier liberalisation ? day by ddy because of poor quality of management, and because it is a case of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE adn1inistered price ; and DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETROCHEl\1ICALS (SHRI R.K. (b) if so, the steps contempLlted by JAICHANDRA SINGH) (a) & (b). Government 10 tone up the management? Liberalisation measures include faster disposals of applications for industrial THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI approvals and de-licensing. For all cate­ VASANT SATHE): (a) & (b). Increasing gories of companies, applications for cost of coal is on account of various industrial approvals are being disposed factors, some of which are beyond the with greater expedition. The schelne of control of management, such as, escala­ de-licensing, however, is applicable to tion in the cost of capitaJ goods, inputs non-FERA/non-MRTP companies only. and stores, increase in W.lges and other benefits, incre.lse in the cost of petroleum [Translation] products and freight and increase in deprecia tion and interest charges. However, Alternative sources of fuel management also plays a crucial role in nlaking the working of fllines and producti­ 238. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD vity of coal more cost efficient. This can RAWAT : Will the Minister of ENERGY be done by better utilisation of capacities be pltased to state : of plant and equipment, adoption and utilisation of nlodern technology, better (a) whether Government have taken inventory control, involvement of the any steps to find alternative sources of labour in management and improved coope­ fuel following increase in the prices of ration, reduction and deployment of surplus labour, training of the personnel, reduc­ oil ; tion in pit-head stocks and improvement in transportdtion, production of quality (b) if so, the alternative sources of coal and its suppJy to the consumers, etc. fuel found since 1982 to date; and Improvenlent in management so as to (c) if not, the reasons therefor? muke it J esuJt-oriented is a continuous process and Government is laying special THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI emphasis in this sector. VASANT SATHE) : (a) Yes, Sir. Vacancies of jodges in Supreme Court and (b) Biogas, Energy Plantations, Brique­ High Courts tted Re~idues, and soJar cookers for cooking, alcohols like ethanol, and 241. SYED SHAHABUDDIN : methanol, Solar, biomass and wind sources PROF. MADHU DANDA- (or power in rural areas in lieu of diesel VATB: 57 Written A.nswers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers

Will the Minister of LAW AND of Additional Judges/permanent Judges JUSTICE be pleased to state: were made in the High Courts.

(a) the number of posts of judges and (d) A time-schedule for taking advance additional Judges in the Supreme Court action for filling posts of Judges which and High Courts vacant as on 31 Decem­ are likely to fall vacant has already been ber, 1985 ; stressed on the Chief Ministers of the States and the Chief Justices of the High (b) the number of vacancies In the Courts. High Courts for more than one year; Pending cases in Supreme Court and High (c) the number of appointments made Courts during 1985 ; and 242. PROF. MADHU DANDA- V ATE : Will the Minister of LAW AND (d) whether Government propose to JUSTICE be pleased to state: work out a procedure for antic·ipating a vacancy so that it can be filled as soon (a) the total number of cases pending as it occurs 1 in Supreme Court and High Courts in the country; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LA WAND (b) the steps taken to clear these JUSTICE (SHRI H R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) arrears ? As on 31.12.1985, 3 posts of judges were vacant in the Supreme Court. On the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE same date, 47 posts of permanent Judges MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE and 15 posts of Addi tional Judges were (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) Informa­ vacant in the High Courts. tion as furnished by the Registries of Supreme Court and High Courts is given (b) There were 29 vacancies in the In attached statement No. I. High COllrts for more than one year. (b) steps taken to reduce pendency (c) During 1985, 32 fresh appointments are given in attached Statement No. II.

Statement I

Pending cases in Supreme Court and High Courts

Name of the Court Number of cases pending ------(As on 31.12.1985)

Supreme Court

Regular hearing matters 47,143

Admission matters 40,104

Miscellaneous matters 79,072

Total: 1,66,319 FEB1tUARY 25; )986

HIGH COUR'fS Number of eases pending

(As on 31.12.1985)

Andhra Pradesh 90,617

Gujarat 41,750

56,904

Punjab & Haryana 40,285

(As on 30.6.1985)

Allahabad 2,42,379

Bombay 1,06,-657

Delhi 74,226

Himachal Pradesh 9,768

Jammu & Kashmir 27,515

Karnataka 91,510

Kerala 1,14, 122

Madhya Pradesh 52,463

Madras 1,49,469

Orissa 26,921

Rajasthan 49,102

Sikkim 51

(As on 31.12.1984)

Calcutta 1,39,050

(As on 31.12.1983)

Gauhati 13,403

Statement n 1. Tbe Code of Civil Procedure was amended in 1976 to abolish Letters Patent Steps taken /rol11 time to time to reduce Appeals fr.om judgment of Single Judge of

pendency 4' the High Court in Second Appeal (Vide Section loo..A). The following steps have been taken 2. The Code of Criminal Procedure in recent rears, to reduce pendency in the based on the recommendations of the Lftw Supreme Court and Higb Courts: Commission wae enacted in 1973. 61 Written ~lfIWe,s PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written AtuWerl 62

3. The Judge strength of the Supreme (viii) The Supreme Court Rules have Court has been raised from 13 to 17, been amended empOWering excluding the Chief Justice, with effect Honourable JU'Clge in Chambers from 31-12-1977 by amending the Supreme and the Registrar to dispose of Court (Number of Judges) Act, 1956. certain types of matters which were previously being listed in 4. The sanctioned strength of the the Court. This has been to save High Court Judges has been increased the Court's time; from 3S1 in March 1977 to 430 on 1st February, 1986. (ix) Speciahzed benches are constitut­ ed to list particular type of matters 5. The Supreme Court has also taken relating to that branch of law in the following measures : which the Honourable Judges constituting the Specialized Bench (i) Priority is given to certain are experts. This enable the matters; Specialized Bench to dispose of such matter expeditiously. (ii) Miscellaneous matters are fixed daily; 6. Apart from the above, certain High Courts are taking the following (iii) Writ Petitions with identical steps for ensuring better disposal of cases : questions are grouped together and batches running from 50 to (a) Cases involving common questions 100 matters are listed together are being grouped by several for hearing ; High Courts;

(iv) Other matters involving identical (b) Matters fixed for hearing by questions are also identified from giving short returnable dates; time to time and put together and efforts are made to see that such (c) Dispensing with printing of groups are disposed of early ~ records; (v) The Supreme Court Rules were revised in 1966 providing for (d) Expediting and giving priority of printing of records under its own matters under certain Acts. superVISion. As that was also taking quite sometime, the Court 7. The recommendations contained of late, has started wherever in the 79th report of the Law Commission possible, dispensing with the have been examined. As action on majority preparation of recorus, and hear­ of the recommendations is to be taken by ing the appeals on Special Leave the State Governments and High Courts, Paper-Book itself, after the parties these have been sent to them alongwith the views of the Union Government and have fi]ed their counter-affidavits they have been requested to take nece­ and affidavits in reply; ssary action. (vi) To save the Court's -time, the Honourable the Chief Justice of 8. The Government have entrusted India is taking mentioning after to the Law Commission the study of the Court's hours, which were pre­ judicial system to introduce necessary viously taking at least about one reforms. The terms of reference are : hour; (a) the need for decentralisation of (vii) In criminal Appeals, Counsel for the system of administration of the Appellant is required to file justice by : cyclostyled record to save time in getting it printed, so that the (i) establishing, extending and matters could be heard early; strongthening in rural areas 63 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written A,1fIWerS 64

the institution of Nyaya to lessening the burden on the Panchayats or other mecha­ litigants; nisms for resolving disputes; (i) formation of an All India Judicia) (ii) setting up a system of parti­ Service; cipatory justice with defined jurisdiction and powers in (j) such other matters as the Commi­ suitable areas and centres; ssion considers proper or nece­ ssary for the purposes aforesaid (iii) establishing other tiers or or as may be referred to it from systems within the judicial time to time by the Government. hierarchy to reduce the volume of work in the 9. The Government have constituted Supreme Court and the High an informal Committee of 3 Chief Justices Courts. to examine the problem of arrears in High Courts and suggest remedial measu- (b) the matters for which TribuI1als res. (excluding services Tribunals) as envisaged in Part XIV-A of the Constitution need to be establish­ [Translation] ed expeditiously and various aspects related to their establi~h­ Facts on oil Reserves in Bettiah District ment and working. of Bihar

(c) the procedural laws with a view 243. SHRI ABDUL HANNAN AN­ gener(llly to disposing of cases SARI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM expeditiously, elimin~~ting unnece­ AND NATURAL G AS be pleased to state : ssary litigation, delays in hearing of cases and reform in procedures (a) whether the experts of Oil and and procedural laws and parti. Natural Gas Commission have stated that cularly to devising procedures there are Jarge reserves of oil below six appropriate to the forums envisa­ thousand feet in Bettiah district of Bihar; ged in items (a) (i) and (a) Oi) ; (b) whether the plant installed by the (d) the method of appointments to Commission had crack:d after drilling upto subordinate courts/subordinate the depth of 5,400 feet due to defective judiciary; foundation and the work came to a stand­ still and the Commission stated that there (e) the training of judicial officers; was no oil at that place ;

(f) the role of the legal profession in (c) whether Soviet experts after con­ strengthening the system of ad­ ducting survey of this area have pointed ministration of justice; out that oil is available beyond the depth of 6000 feet; (g) the desirability of formulation of the norms which the Government (d) whether it is a fact that Govern­ and the public sector undertak­ ment incurred an expenditure of Rs. 32 ings should follow in the settle­ crores on this project ; and ment of disputes including a review of the present system for (e) if so, the action proposed to be conduct of litigation on behalf of taken by Government in this regard '1 the Government and such undertakings ; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINSTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (b) the cost of litigation with a view NATURAL GAS ~HRI CHANDRA 6S W,itten Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written A,n.rwers

SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) to (c). No, Sir. December, 1985, was as under : The well Gandak-l in the Bettiah District was drilled as a parametric well to obtain MU sub-surface geological information. The drilling was terminated when the igneous Andhra Pradesh 15S7.7 rocks were encountered as that fulfilled the obj ective of dril1ing. Karnataka 787.1 Tamil Nadu 388.2 (d) The exploratory expenditure on this well was about Rs. 8.2 crores. Goa 68.1

(e) Does not arise. The entire output of energy from Kalapakkam Atomic Plant and Neyveli Lignite Thermal Power Station during this period was utilised by Tamil Nadu. [English] (d) The entire output from these sta­ CeDtrally Sponsored Projects in tions was utilized. Southern States Exemption of public sector from prmmoos ofMRTP Act 244. SHRI MULLAPALLY RAMA­ CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of 245. DR. G. VIJA Y A RAMA RAO : ENERGY be p]eased to state: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (a) the power projects in Southern States that are sponsored by the Union (a) whether the exemption of the Government ; pubJic sector from the purview of the Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices (b) the total power output from the Act is against the recommendations made Centrally sponsored projects in the Sou­ in the Sachar Committee Report ; thern States during 1985 ; (b) if so, the reasons therefor ; and

(c) the details of its distribution, State­ (c) whether it is correct that the wise; and amendments to the MRTP Act will result in excluding large companies and encom­ (d) the extent of energy reserves passing smaller industries? available at the end of last year? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF (a) The Sachar Committee has recom­ MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) Ramagundam mended that public sector should be brou­ Super Thermal Power Station,. Kalapakkam ght within the purview of the Monopolies Atomic Power Plant and Neyveli Lignite & Restrictive Trade Practices Act, 1969 Thermal Power Station have been set up in as regards monopolistic, restrictive and Southern Region in the Centra] Sector. unfair trade practices. The Committee is not against the exemption to public sector (b) The gross output of energy from as regards concentration of economic these stations during 1985 (January to power in the hands of the State for such December) was about 8190 MU. exemption is in public interest providing, as it does, countervailing force against (c) Actual supply of energy from the monopolies. Ramagundam Super Therma] Power Station during the period January to (b) & (c). Do not arise. Written AnsWers FEBRUAR Y 25, 1986 Written dnlWerj

Unauthorised use of Private Telephones by (e) the steps taken by Government to Telepbone Staff renlove the shortage of raw material and other impediment~ ? 246. SHRI MANIK REDDY: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be THE MINISTR OF STATE IN THE pleased to state : DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ (a) whether any complaints have been CHALAM) : (a) There are 23 units in the received from consumers in Delhi about country engaged in the manufacture of unauthorised use of private telephones by paper and paper board utilising soft-wood telephone staff including diversion of tele­ like bamboo, reed and eucalyptus. phones to "favoured" persens ; (b) & (c). The installed capacities of (b) if so, whether any redress has been these units, their production and capacity given to complaints; nnd utilisation during the last three years are as follows: (c) the action taken against the guilty staff, if any ? Year Installed Production Capacity THE MINISTER OF Sl ATE OF THE capacity utilization MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, Sir. 1983 11,60,860 7,46,370 64% (b) & (c). Sometimes such complaints 1984 11,60,860 7,85,240 67% are received generally after receipt of bills by the subscribers. In such cases because 1985 11,72,360 7,90.370 67% of belated state, it is not possible to iden­ tify the guilty telephone staff, if any.

If the actual callers are traced, rebates The capacity utilisation of these uQits in bills are given to the aggrieved subscri­ is low on account of a variety of problems bers while corresponding bills are sent to including financial constraints, manageria 1 subscribers suspected to have used the line shortcomings, raw material shortages, etc. by diversion. (d) The units affected are as follows: Soft wood using industries 1 Assam: Ashok Paper Mills 247. DR. K.G. ADIYODJ ; Will the Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to state: 2 Bihar : Rohtas Industries

(a) the number of major industries in 3. West Bengal: the country utilising soft-wood like bam­ boo. reed, eucalyptus; (i) Titaghur Paper Mills (b) tbe installed capacity and the actual production of the lin its for the last (ii) Bengal Paper Mil1s. three years ; (c) The problems of the Paper Industry (c) whether the actud ir.stalled capa­ are kept in view by the Industry, Govern­ city is being utilized by thc.se units, if not, nlent, Financial Institutions and other the reasons tht:refor ; concerned agencies, While formulating . appropriate remedial measures. Some of (d) the t:nits (State-wise) that are the units have taken up modernisation and affected due to short supply of raw mate­ technological upgradation with a view to rials, lock-ou ts etc. ; and achieving Increased economic u.eage of 69 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1901 (SAI<.A) W,Itten AtUWer"s 10

raw materials, higher yield, reduction in (b) the estjmated quantity of oil re­ energy consumption, improvement of sources in tkese places ? quality, pollution control and prevention of obsolescence. A package of fiscal THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE reliefs, by way of exche concessions, and MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND reduction/waiver of customs duty for im­ NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA ported ra\V materials has been extended to SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) Oil and gas have the paper industry, Infrastructural support been found at the following places in the has been improved by increasing allocation country during April 1985 to January of coal to the industry, 1986 :

[Translation] State Place! .Nature Gas-based thermal power station at Ramgarh, Structure of the titld Jaisalmer

248. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: ON-SHORE Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Andhra Narsapur Gas Tatipaka Gas (a) what would be the capacity of the Kaza Gas gas-based thernlal power station at Ramgarh (Jaisalmer) ; Assam: Tinkhong.. TinaJi Oil Rajgarh Oil (b) the progress made so far in regard to the construction of the said power Gujarat Karjisan. Gas station; and Pakhajan Oil

(c) the time by which the said power Tamil Nadu : Narima nam Oil & Oas station will be ready to supply ppwer to laisalmer district ? OFF-SHORE

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE West Coast B-141 pas DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHal ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) to (c). The Panna East Oil & Gas gas-based power project at Ranlgarh, with an installed capucity of 3 MW, proposed D-18 Oil by the Rajasthan State Electricity Board. has been accepted for inclusion in the D-172 on &, Gas State's Seventh Five-Year Plan. The time­ frame for completion of the project could be decided after placelnent of orders for (b) The above discoveries .Qploratory equipment by the State Electricity Board. and the quantity of oil and gas resources will be known after the structures are [English] delineated.

Places where on found LPG agencies in Kmala 249. SHRI MADAN PANDEY: Will the Minister of PETROLBUM AND 250. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU : Will NATURAL GAS be pleased to st~te : the Minister of PETROLEUM & NATU­ RAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) the places whefe oil a~ other petroleum products have been found (a) the total number of LPG ageDcies recently ; and in Kerala at pres eDt ; ~ Wrllten A"",erl FEBRUARY 2$, 198& 72

; (b) whether the existing agencies are 13. Ch erai/Edauankad able to cater to the entire requirements in Kerala ; 14. Trivandrum (2 locations) ]5. Kuttuparamba (c) if not, whether new agencies are loing to be allotted ; and 16. Ambalapuza 17. Kaipamangalam (d) if so, the details thereof? 18. Mannarghat THE l\-fINISTER OF STATE OF THE 19. Trichur MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & NA­ TURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA 20. Kattakada SHEKHAR SINGH:) : (a) There are 96 LPG 21. Feroko distributorship~ operating in Kerala at present. 22. Palghat/Podussery 23. (b) to (d). While the existing distribu­ Aroor torships are servicing the present customer 24. Chathanoor population, neW distributorships have been planned by the oil industry for better co­ 25. Vadakkancherry verage and new customers. The details 26. Nernom of the proposed distributorships are given in the attached statement. 27. Mal1apalli

28. Soornad North/Soornad South Statement 29. Parassala

The details of the LPG distributorships 30. Manalur planned to be created in the State 0/ 31. ChirayinkiJ Kerala by the Oil Industry under its various Marketb;g Plans 32. QuiJon 33. Perambra INDIAN OIL CORPORATION LTD. 34. Thamrassery 1. Chittoor/Thathamangalam 35. PayyoIi 2. Punelur 36. Parappanangadi 3. Adoor/Perakode 37. Aranmula 4. Neyyatinkara 38. Erumeli s. Vypeen 39. Mattanur 6. Patbanapuram 40. Tirurangadi 41. Kunnamangalam 7. Nedumangad 42. Kollengode 8. Paravoor 43. Nilambur 9. Kanjirapalli/Por kunram 44. Puthupa]]y

10. Haripad 45. Komni 11. Vadanapalli/Triprayar 46. KarakuJam 12. Nenmara/Ayalur 47. Cocbin (2 location.) PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) W,ltten "j1l6WN'

48. Ancbal Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : 49. ~8DaDthavady SO. Mannar (a) the total number of computerised telex and microwave system exchanges 51. Pampady proposed to be introduced in GUDuar and Prakasam Districts of Andhra Pradesh; 52. Kilikoloor/Kottamkara. (b) other measures proposed to be BHARAT PETROLEUM taken to improve the working condition CORPORATION LTD. of telephones in Prakasam and Guntur Districts of Andhra Pradesh; and 53. Cocbinl 54. OUur (c) the details thereof?

SSe Thiruvella THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 56. Alleppy MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) One 57. Balarampuram small computerised 20 Jines telex exchange has recently been commissioned at 58. Perin thaI Manna Chilkaluripet in Guntur Distt. No further 59. Kalpetta electronic Telex exchdnge in these dis­ tricts is planned at present. The following 60. Ponnani microwave schemes are working/plaaned :

61. Peermade 1. Guntur-Tenali-Vijawada (working) 62. Thodu Pusha 2. Guntur-Narsaraopet (UHF 63. Idukki workinl) 64.. MUDnar 3. Guntur-Chilkaturipet-) Planned Sattana Palli ) HINDUSTAN PETROLEUM CORPORATION LTD. (b) ar d (c). Telephone system work.. 65. Calicut (2 locations) iog in these districts is satisfactory. To improve it further, routine tests are taken 66. Trichur and prompt remedial action followed. Additional trunk circuits are being pro­ 67. Beypore vided on traffic justification. Service is 68. Kumbla being monitored periodically by the Department and immediate steps taken to 69. Cochin improve in the weak areas. 70. Trivandrum Recessioa in automelNle lDHstry 71. Alleppey 252. SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAGHA. 72. Taliparambha VAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pJeased to state: 73. Kodiyeri

74. Palghat (a) whether there is a recession in the automobile industry; ImprJ)vement in Telephone Senice in Pmasam and Guntur Districts 01 (b) jf so, the facts thereof; Andhra Pradesh (c) whether Governnlent propose to 25J. SaRI C. SAMBV: Will th~ limit the ,rowlb 9f capacity in this se~t9r 75 FEBR.UA'RY 2Y, 198' ) 76

in ordot to save on the oil consumption ; (b) Combined Offices (:tolegraph and Office) are available in towns with more than 5,000 population in tbe District of (d) jf so, tbe faots thereof? DhuJe.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) Does not arise in view of (b) DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL above. DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ CHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. However in case of Commercial vehicles on Iy the Delay in execution oJ power pro;e~t ia Kerala growth in sales is someWhat less than an­ ticipated. 254. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to (b) Does not arise. state : (c) Adequate capacity bas been approved in this sector to meet projected (a) whether the inordinate delay in demand. The sttategy is to optimise use executing the various power projects in of petroleum products through improve­ Kerala has caused tremendous escalation ment in fuel .efficiency of vehicles. in the cost of these projects ;

(d) Does Dot arise. (b) the names of such proj eets together with due original outlay and the escalated Opeaina of telegrapb offices iD Dhule cost; and District of Maharashtra (c) the main reasons for the delay in 253. SHRI MANIKARAO HODLYA execution? GAVIT: Will the Minister of COMMU­ NICATIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI (a) whether Dhule District which is ARIF MOHAMMAD KJ:IAN) : (a) to (c). the most backward Adivasi district of The setting up of power projects is a Mabarashtra State, has been facing great complex task involving various agencies dimculty due to non-availability of tele­ and requiring sequential matching of a graph offices ; wide variety of inputs. Delay on the part of anyone agency or mismatch in supplies (b) if so, whether Government pro­ of key material is liable to resu It in time pose to open new telegraph offices in each and cost over-run~. toWn having population of more than 5,000 in ~l1at district -; and It is difficult to indicate precisely the (c) if not, the reasons thereof? escalation in costs due only to the delays in their completion, since cost escalation THE MtNlSTER OF S1\c\ TE OF THE is a]so due to various other factors such MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS as genera) increase in prices, ineteased (SHRI ItAM NIW AS MIRDHA) : (a) No, prices of equipment, materials etc. Sir. Adequate telegraph facilities are available that includes one Departmentar A statement indicating the' ti~ and Telegraph Office and 43 Long Distance cost over-runs in respect of powe,r projects Public Telephones with tetegral'h facilities in Kerala along with reasons for delay in in the District of Dhule. their execution is atta~hed. 77 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer, 78

Statement

On-going Hydro Electric Projects in Kerala State

SI. Name of Original Revised Original Likely Reasons for No. Project and cost Estimated Commg. date of delay Capacity in (Crores) cost (Crs.) Schedule Commg. MW

1. Idamalayar 23.40 89.00 78-79 Unit-I Contractual pro- (2 X 37.5 MW) rotated blems, non- in July availability of 1985. adequate funds, Unit-II rectification 1986-87 work in power tunnel.

2. Idukki St. II 31.68 80.00 84-85 Unit-I Contractual pro- (3 X 130 MW) commd. blem~, delay in in Oct., deliveries/pro- 1985. blems of equip- Unit-II ments, unit erec- -Feb., tion. 1986. Unit-III -86-87

3. Kakkad 18.60 50.00 84-25 89-90 Contractual pro- (2X 25 MW) blcms, non- a vailabiJity of adequate funds.

4. KaJlada 11.80 12.50 84-85 89-90 Contractual pro- (2X7.S MW) blems, non- availability of adequate funds, delay in delive- ries/problems of (quipments.

S. Lower Periyar 88.43 142.07 89-90 90-91 Delay in place- (3 X60 MW) rr.ent of order for generating units and com- pletion of various civil works. 79 Written A1aWet's FEBRUARY 2S t 1986 Written ANSWers 80

[Translation1 to cooperatives and gives capital formation loans to institutions registered under Facilities/schemes for employment Societies Registration Act, 1860. A number opportuaities in rural areas of village industries included in the schedule to KVIC Act like collection of Forest 255. SHRIMATI SUNDERWATI Plants and Fruits, Manufacture of Gum NA WAL PRABHAKAR : Will the Resins, Manufacture of Katha, Cottage Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Match Industry, Bamboo and Canework state : etc. J and Khadi provide employment opportunities to women. In Kbadi, the (a) the details of facilities/schemes in spinning activity is undertaken almost force at present to provide employmentl entirely by women folk. semi-employment to the people in rural 2. Under the integrated Rural Deve­ areas, particularly to women ; lopment Programme (IRDP) assistance is provided to families below to poverty (b) whether the scheme of providing line to increase their income. As a special 'Amber Charkha' to rural and urban scheme of IRDP, a programme of develop­ women is also included in these schemes ; ment of women and children in rural areas was started in 1982 in 50 selected (c) whether Government feel that these districts of 22 States on a pilot project charkhas will help them to earn their liveli­ basis. The objective of this programme is hood ; to focus attention on women members of the family below the pover ty line so as to (d) if so, the "action being taken or improve their socio-economic status through proposed to be taken by Government in creation of various opportunities for this regard ; and income generation activities on self-sustain­ ing basis. This scheme provides supporting (e) if not, the reasons therefor ? service to women in the form of child care facilities, etc.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 3. The TR YSEM scheme launched in DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL 1979 intends to train the rural youth (18- DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ 35 years of age) from the target group of CHALAM) : (a) A statement is attached. families in the rural areas, in technical skills to enable them to take up self­ (b) Yes, Sir. employment in vocations in the broad fields of agriculture and allied activities, (c) Yes, Sir. industry, services and business activities ete. One rural youth per eligible family is (d) The programme relating to di~tri­ selected under this scheme. bution of charkhas is proposed to be ex­ 4. Another programme to provide panded during the Seventh Plan period. emploYlnent/semi-employment is the Natio­ nal Rural Employment Programme imple­ (e) Does not arise. mented through District Rural Develop­ ment Agencies (DRDAs) set up in all the Statement Districts of the country.

The Khadi & Vi1Jage Industries Pro­ (English] gramme, mainly implemented by KYle in rural areas, provide substantial employ­ Increase in assets of companies doe to raislog ment opportunities to women. KVIC of assets limit of MRTP Units provides assistance for training, supply of equipment, construction of work-sheds 256. SHRI H.M. PATEL: \Vill the and ,odowDs, working capital for purchase Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to of raw-materials, production and marketing. state: It also provides assistance for share capital (a) whether the raisins of the assets 81 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 82

limit applicable to the Monopolies and Mills, active participation by Govt. in the Restrictive Trade Practices Units has management of the Company. by reconsti­ resulted in increase in the total assets of tution of the Board of Directors, and also several companies; take over of the management of the Company. (b) whether this is also the result of the amalgamation of some companies into (c) The financial institutions are one; and engaged in working out the modalities for the rev!val and rehabilitation of the Com­ (c) whether Government propose to pany. The Central Govt. has no proposal nlake revaluation on the basis of fresh under consideration to take over the norms? management of the Company under the Industries (Development & Regulation) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Act. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ CHAI.,AM) : (a) No, Sir. Payment of royalty to Daimler Benz of West Germany (b) Ama]gamation of some companies into one would, generally, not result in increase in the total assets of the amalga­ 258. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA­ mating companies. MURTY: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (c) In view of (a) does not arise. (a) whether a royalty payment of 3.5 per cent spread over a IO-year period to Take over of Titagarh Paper Mills Co. Ltd., Daimler Benz of West Germany, the makers West Bengal of Mercedes cars which has collaboration with Bajaj Tempo, was approved by the 257. SHRI ANIL BASU: Will the Ministry of Industry and communicated to Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Daimler Benz ; state: (b) whether on the intervention of the (a) whether Government have received Ministry of Finance the royalty payment a memorandum dated 21 January 1986 was reduced to 3 per cent for a period of from Bengal Kagazkal Mazdoor Union 7 years; (CITU), 25-Parganas regarding taking over of the management of Titagarh Paper (c) if so, the reasons therefor; and Mills ~o. Limited, West Bengal; (d) whether such a change would not (b) if so, the salient points raised by impinge upon the realiability and credi­ the Union in the said memorandum; and bility of official announcements and communications? (c) the reaction of Government there­ to ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT ~OF INDUSTRIAL THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL CHALAM): (a) Approval for 3.5% DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA· royalty spread over a period of seven years CHALAM) : (a) Yes, Sir. was conveyed to the Indian company MJs. Bajaj Tempo Ltd. (b) In the Memorandum referred to, Government has been requested to take steps to lift the look out in the No. 1 (b) to (d). The matter is under re­ unit and for withdrawal of the notice of consideration on the advic~ of Ministry of closure of No. 2 unit of Titagarh Paper Finance, 83 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answers 84

Self-sufficiency in oil production (iii) Use of enhanced oil recovery techniques. 259. SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (iv) Induction of advanced technology. NA TURAL GAS be pleased to state: (v) Conservation measures aimed to (a) the production of crude in India curb consumption. during the Sixth Five Year Plan;

(b) the estimated production of crude Telephone exchanges in hUI areas of during the Seventh Five Year Plan Himachal Pradesh period; 260. SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI: (c) whether the crude production Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS would be able to meet the requirements of be pleased to state: the country during 1985-1990 ; and (a) the number of telephone exchanges (d) if not, the steps proposed to be proposed to be set up in the hiB areas of taken by Government to achieve self­ Himachal Pradesh during 1986-87 ; sufficiency in crude production? (b) the names of the places where THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE telephone exchanges were set up during MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND the last three years; and NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) 102.7 million (c) the names of the telephone exchan­ tonnes. ges proposed to be covered with Satellite? (b) 159 million tonnes. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (c) No, Sir. (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA) : (a) The number of telephone exchanges proposed (d) Some of the steps proposed to to be set up in the hilly areas of Himachal increase the production of crude and Pradesh during 1986-87 is 15. move to\\,ards self-sufficiency are:

(i) Intensification of exploration (b) The information is given in the which may eventually lead to atta-ched statement. enhanced production. (c) Kalpa and Koylong exchanges ar e (ii) Intensification of work-over opera­ proposed to be connected with Satellite tions. medium.

Statement Names of the exchanges set up during the last three years in Himachal Pradesh

1983-84 1984-85 1985·86 Proposed to be opened opened so far upto 31-3-86

1 2 3 4

1. Kuthera 1. Swargbat 1. Indora 1. Khora 2. Dadasiba 2. Bbarmour 2. Bara 2. Manikaran 85 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 86

1 8 3 4

3. Gherwin 3. Chaura 3. Sukhibain 3. Lanj 4. Dhaneta 4. Bhurany 4. Khundun 4. Masrehar S. Fatehpur S. Galore S. Mohrian S. Pir Saluhi 6. Bhang 6. Lamblee 6. Panjawar. 7. Baroh 7. Tonidevi 7. Baramana

8. Sataun 8. Gangath 8. Baragoan 9. Daroh 9. Kandwal 9. Nagli 10. Bbera- 10. Rakkar 10. Jabli 11. Dunera 11. Ranital 11. Khaire 12. Santokhgarh 12. Sunhi

13. Haripur (Kulu) 13. Dharampur

14. Paror 14. Kotti

15. Deothi 15. Paddar

16. Naina-Tikkar 16. Nagwain 17. Tikkar 17. Ghana Hatti 18. Nandpur 18. Rawlakair 19. DeoriooKbaneti 19. Sheelghat 20. Dhauli-Khan 21. Baddi 22. Mangarh 23. Ram-shahar 24. Sohari Takoli

Construction of post office buildings in (d) the steps Government proposed to Greater Bombay take to construct such post office buildings promptly '1 261. SHRI SHARAD DIOHE: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleasec1 to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) 16 (a) The number of plots of land reserved and acquired for constructing plots have been acquired in Greater pos t office buildings in Greater Bombay Bombay for post office bUildings. All these and still lying vacant ; plots are vacant.

(b) the details therQof ; (b) (i) The details of the plots which . . have already been acquired for post offices (c) the reaspns for tb, sapao ; and and which are Qot yet Ilti~ed are ,as 87 Written A nswepts FBBRUAR Y 25, 1986 88 follows Setting up of heavy Industry in Kerala 262. SHRI T. BASHEER : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Name of the Plot Area state : (In Square Metre) (a) whether there is any proposal under Government's consideration to set up heavy industries in Kerala during the 1. Backbay Reclamation 766.08 Seventh Five Year Plan period;

2. Bandra East 1108.00 (b) if so, the details thereof; and

3. Chakala MIDe 855.00 (c) if not, the reasons therefor?

4. D.N. Nagar, Andheri 1000.00 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL 5. Sid}' arthnagar, Guregaon 1000.00 DEVELOPMENT (SIIRI M. ARUNA­ CHALAM) : (a) to (c). There is already 6. Azadnagar, Andheri 896.74 a heavy industry unit in public sector in Kerala viz. the unit of HMT Ltd. at 7. Unnatnag, r, Goregaon 506.04 Kalamassery. There is no proposal under consideration of Government at present 8. Motilalnagar, Goregaon 1331.81 to set up a heavy engineering project in public sector in that State during Seventh 9. Poisar, Kandiva1i 736.05 Five Year Plan.

10. Gorai Road, Borivali 745.81 Steps taken to meet requirement of crude in Seventh Five Year Plan 11. Dabisar 592.19 263. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT : 12. Kurla 571.30 SHRI N. TOMB! SINGH: SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI : 13. Tagorenagar, VikhroH 1000.00 Will the Minister of PETROLEUM l4. Kannamwarn2gar, VikhroJi 2200.00 AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : 15. Powai 1226.76 (a) whether the crude production in 16. Bhandup East 549.25 India could meet the requirement of the country during the Seventh Five Year Plan; (ij) In addition, there are other plots which have been earmarked for (b) if not, the percentage of crude the Postal Department. The imported during the Sixth Plan period in taking over of such plots however relation to its requirements ; and depends upon various factors such as suitability and actual (c) the steps proposid to be taken by av~iIabjlity of plots etc. Government to meet the requirement of crude in the domestic market during the (c) It has not so far been possibie to Seventh Five Year Plan and the projected start construction of buildings on these target thereof? plots because of resource constraints. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (d) It is proposed to construct build­ MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND ings on some of these plots during the NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRJ\ 7th Plan subject to ~vai1abjljty of funas. SHBKHAR SINGH); (a) No, Sir, 89 Written AnsWers PHAtOUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answers

(b) A bout 55% of the country's Allocation of levy paper to States req uirement of petroleunl (crude and crude equivalent of products) was met through 265. SHRI P. NAMGYAL : Will the indigenous production during the Sixth Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Five Year Plan and the balance was state: imported. (a) the State-wise demand received (c) Following steps are being taken and allocation made of levy papers on to augment the hydrocarbon reserves and different paper llliJls for manufacturing crude oil production in the country : exerche notebooks and printing of text books during the years 1984-85 and 1985· 0) Intensification of exploration 86, separately ; which may eventuaJly lead to enhanced production. (b) whether it IS a fact that in spite of regular allocation made by the Control1ers of Papers, some mills are flouting the of work-over (ii) Intensification directives of the Controllers of Papers and operations. diverting their products elsewhere; and

(iii) Use of enhanced oil recovery (c) if so, whether a Jist of the default­ techniques. ing mills aJongwith steps taken against the defaulters and also steps taken to ensure (iv) Induction of advanced technology. regular supply of levy papers in future to various States will be placed on the Table? The target for production of crude oil for 7th Five Year Plan is 159 million THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tonnes. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ Energy Development Coo.ci) CHALAM) : (a) Allocation of White Print­ ing Paper to the educational sector for manufacture of exercise books and printing 264. SHRI P.M. SA YEED: Will the of text-books is made to the States/Union Minister of ENERGY be pleased to refer Territories depending on the availability to the reply given to Unstarred Question of such paper and in the context of the No. 2293 on 3rd December, 1985 regard­ student population of each State/Union ing setting up of Energy Development Territory. A Statement indicating the Council and state : State-wise allocation mad e during 1984-85 and 1985-86 is attached. (a) the progress made regarding the composttlon and functions etc. of the (b) & (c). Complaints are received Energy Development Council proposed to from time to time regarding short supply be set up ; and of White Printing Paper by different paper mills against the allocations made on them. (b) the names of the members of the Thes e are brought to the notice of the aforementioned Council and whether the mills and suitable directions issued for State Governments are represented on it ? expediting supplies. Periodic meetings are held with the representatives of the mills THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to review the supply position and for DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI clearance of backlog, if any, in supplies. ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) & (b). Oovernnlent have abo agreed to an The composition and functions of the increase in the pnce of White Printing proposed Energy Development -Council Paper by Rs. 800/- per tonne effective from are under consideration. 16th January, 1986. ~1 Written Answers FEBRUARY 2S, 1986 Written AnsWers 92

Statement

Statement showillg the State wise allocation 0/ White Printing Paper during the year 1984-85 &: 1985-86

1984-85 1985-86

S. Name of the Text Ex. Total Text Ex. Total No. Slates/U. Ts. Books Books Books Books

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

1. Andhra Prad esh 4891 3929 8820 46S5 3724 8379

2. Assam 1898 2619 4511 1930 2055 3985

3. Bihar 3025 4672 7697 4084 2838 6922

4. Gujarat 4002 3207 7209 3813 1543 5356

5. Haryana 4543 1123 5666 1348 1080 2428

6. Himachal Pradesh 1263 419 1682 476 383 8S9

7. Kamataka 3985 2781 6766 3502 2811 6313

8. Kerala 4712 3839 8551 4515 3615 8130

9. Madhya Pradesh 4144 3327 7471 3482 2904 6386

10. Maharashtra 7564 6084 13648 6884 5780 12664

11. Manipur 184 150 334 182 148 330

12. Nagaland 132 65 197 474 81 S55

13. Orissa 2233 1792 4025 2128 1705 3833

14. Punjab 2392 1713 4105 2940 1646 4586

15. Rajasthan 4305 2169 6412 3110 2089 5199

16. Sikkim 184 147 331 233 195 428

17. Tamil Nadu 5642 5593 11235 6138 4283 10421

18. Uttar Pradesh 11046 8875 19921 11408 8529 19937

19. A & N Islands 35 29 64 26 22 48

20. West Bengal 4787 2075 6862 S044 4051 909S Written AnsWers PHAtGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

21. 90 72 162 90 74 164

22. Delhi ] ]63 1180 2343 1155 960 2105

23. Goa, Daman & Diu 176 140 316 171 138 309

24. Mizoram 102 81 183 220 104 324

25. Pondicherry 97 82 179 96 78 174

26. Jammu & Kashmir 5]1 411 922 502 303 805

27. MegaJaya 205 166 371 202 164 366

28. 1001 807 1808 609 530 1139

29. Arunachal Pradesh 19 14 33 58 60 118

30. Lakshdeep 7 4 11 8 4 12

31. Dadra & Nagar 7 4 11 8 4 12

TOTAL 74355 57627 131972 69491 51901 121392

Licence for Industrial SolveDt plant to Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Kerala State Industrial Development NATURAL GAS be ple:1sed to state: Corporation (a) whether there is considerable delay 266. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHA­ in providing cooking gas to existing custo­ MAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY mers in various parts of the country in­ be pleased to state : el u ding Delhi ;

(a) Whether any licence has been given (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and to the Kerala State Industrial Development Corporation by the Central Industrial (c) the average time taken for provid­ l.icence Committee to set up an industrial ing gas supply to existing consumers? solvent plant ; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) jf so, the details thereof? MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) and (b). As on DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL 31-1-1986 there is some backlog in supply DEVELOPMENT (SHRI 1\1. ARUNA­ of LFG cylinders in a few markets in the CHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. country. The reasons for delay in meeting the peak (winter) season demand are inade­ (b) Does not arise. quate bottling capacity in some areas, transportation bottlenecks, industrial rela­ Delay in providing cooking gas in Delhi tions problems of distributors and disrup­ tion of supplies caused by Rasta Roko 267. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: agitations and bandhs. Written Answers F~BkUAR.Y 25, 1986 Written AnsWers

(c) LPG distributors are under instruc­ Karnataka met the Minister of Energy on tions from the oil companies to supply 13th January, 1986. refills within 48 hours of receipt of request for a customer. (e) Maharashtra was requested to supply surplus power to the extent possi­ Power shortage in Karnataka and bJe to Karnataka. Gujarat States (f) Chief Minister, Karnataka discus­ 268. SHRI K. V. SHANKARA sed matters relating to power sector in GOWDA: Karnataka including the problem of power SHRI B.V. DESAI: shortage.

Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Central Assistance to Bihar Government for Augmenting power resources (a) whether Union Government have taken various steps to help Karnataka and 269. DR. G.S. RAJHANS: Will the Gujarat States which are facing severe Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state : power shortage ; Ca) whether Bihar Government has (b) if so, the details of the steps being sought from the Centre 'liberal assistance' taken to help these States ; for augmenting it~ power resources re­ cently ; (c) whether he had directed the Maharashtra Government to rush power (b) If so, full details thereof in this to both the States ; regard and whether the Union Government have provided/propose to provide any (d) whether the Chief Minister of assistance to the Bihar State ; Karnataka met him on 14 January, 1986 and apprised him of the grave situation (c) whether the Union Government that the State has been facing due to power have also reviewed the position of power shortage for the Jast three years ; availability in Bihar recently; and (e) what help and assistance Union Government has provided to the State (d) if so, the details thereof? after the Chief Minister's meeting ; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (f) the points raised by the Chief DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI Minister during the meeting ? ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) & (b). According to the available information, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE no such request has recently been received DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF from the . The MOHAMMAD KHAN) ; (a) to (c). annual plan for 1986-87 for Bihar was Kamataka has been facing power shortage finalised on 7-2-86 in the Planning Com­ due to reduced hydel generation. Power mISSIon. Central assistance is given to 6hortage conditions developed in Gujarat the States in the form of block Joans and during the mid of January, 1986 for about block grants. It is not related to any a week due to multiple outages of thermal specific programme/project. units. Maharashtra Government was requested to render maximum assistance (c) & (d). The power position of Eas­ to these States to mitigate the power tern Region was recently reviewed in a shortage conditions. Gujarat is now, by meeting at Calcutta. The need for early and large, meeting its energy requirements completion of power projects, stabilisation fully. of generating units, training of adequate manpower for operation and maintenance (d) Yes, Sir. The Chief Minister of etc. was impressed upon Bihar authorities. Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) Written A.nswers 98

Loss of Telegrams in C.T.Os THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 270. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Yes, Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS Sir. The statistical information is furni­ be pleased to state : shed in the Annexure.

(a) the number of telegrams which got lost in the Central Telegraph Offices (b) The main contributory factors for located at Calcutta, Bombay, Madras, such losses are : New Delhi, Hyderabud, Bangalore, Pune, Amritsar, Jaipur, Lucknow, and (i) Human failures in the course of Srinagar during the last two years, year­ manual handling of telegrams at var­ wise break-up for each office ; ious stages and

(b) the main factors contributing to (ii) Technical faults on lines and equip­ such losses; ment.

(c) the percentage of transit telegrams which got lost in the above offices during (c) Furnished in the attached state­ the said period showing separate figures ment. in each case; and (d) On the whole, there has been no (d) has the number of loss of telegrams appreciable change in the number of tele­ illcreased or decreased after the introduc­ grams lost after the introduction of Store tion of Store and Forward Telegraph and Forward Telegraph system. Efforts working, giving reason~ for the same and are continuing to up-grade Telegraph the remedial measures taken? Network to minimise the loss of messages.

Statement

Statement showing the number of Telegrams lost in Central Telegraph Offices during the years 1983-84 & 1984-85.

No. of Telegrams Percentage of transit telegrams 51. Name of the eTO lost during lost during No. 1983-84 1984·85 1983-84 1984-85

1 2 3 4 5 6

1. Calcutta 37 32 Negligible

2. Bombay 5059 5450 0.020 0.017

3. Madras 160 147 0.001 0.001

4. New Delhi 209 206 .0176 .016

5. Hyderabad 85 71 0.003 0.002

6. Banga]ore 12 32 0.0003 0.0007

7. Pune ' 48 65 0.03 0.05 Written A.nswers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written .Answer.r 100

------~------.~,.------1 2 3 4 5 6

8. Amritsar Nil Nil Nil

9. Jaipur 13 25 0.002 0.008

10. Lucknow Nil Nil Nil Nil

11. Patna Nil Nil Nil Nil

12. Srinagar (J & K) 12 10 Negligible

Writing off of accumulated losses Haryana State where Mini Telephone incurred by Public Sector Units Exchanges are likely to be opened during the year 1986-87 ; and 271. DR. B.L. SHA fLESH: Will the Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to (b) [&.Inds allocated and capacity of state : e~ch Mini Telephone Exchange?

(a) whether Goven.ment propose to THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE write off the accumulah:d losses incurred MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS by the public sector units functioning (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA) : (a) Eight under the Departmt:nt (Jf Public Enter­ new MAX-III type mini telephone ex­ prises ; changes are proposed to be opened in Haryana during 1986-87. The names of ('9) if so, the broad outlines of the the places are yet to be identified as the capital restructuring package on anvil, the opening of mini-exchanges depends on (i) names of these loss-making units and the Requisite demand (ii) Financial viability accumulated loss sustained by each of of the proposal. these units ; and

(c) how far this writing off of losses (b) No separate funds have been will help in the efficient and viable func­ allocated for the purpose. The funds will tioning of these units in future? be met from the lump sum grant with the fl..spective division. The capacity of all THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the exch;1nges proposed to be installed are DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL 25 lines. DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA ... CHALAM) : (a) No final view has been taken regarding any financial relief that Connecting major cities with Bbopal might be required by the loss making by S.T.D. system public sector undertakings under the Department. 273. SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHARMA: Will the Minister of COM­ (b) & (c). Do not alise. MUNICA TIONS be pleased to state: Mini Telephone Exchanges in Haryana (a) whether it is a fact that some new 272. SHRI DHARAM PAL SlNOIl maj or cities are to be connected with MALIK: W,ll the Minister of COM­ apopal by S.T.D. system before 31st MUNICATIONS be pleased to state : Marcb, 1986 ;

(a) the names and number of places ~ (b) if ~o, the details thereof ; 101 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SA1(A) Written Answer8 . 102

(c) whether TAX (Trunk Auto Ex­ 19. Palladam change) Bhopal will be ready by the end of this year ; and 20. Pondicherry

(d) the future programme to connect 21. Palai various cities of Madhya Pradesh on national net work through satellite 22. Rameswaram system? 23. Shivkasi THE MINlSTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 24. Tiruchengode (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Yes, Sir. 25. Tirupati

(b) In addition to the 120 stations al­ 26. Tuticorin ready connected to Bhopal on STD through Indore Trunk Automatic Exchange 27. Theni 33 more stations including a number of district Headquarters as detailed below are 28. Udumalpet Hkely to be connected by STD system with Bhopal before 31-3-1986. 29. Varanasi

1. Allahabad 30. Vellore

2. Aruppukottai 31. Villupuram

3. Chidambaram 32. Virudhnagar

4. Chingalput 33. Warangal

5. Chalkudi In addition point to point STD bet­ ween Bhopal and Vidisha will be availabJe 6. Dibrugarh before 31-3-1986.

7. Dindigal (c) No, Sir.

8. Dewas (d) A nUDlber of earth stations are proposed in the 7th Plan based on justifi. Gopi ChatipaJayam 9. cation and need. The requirements of Madhya Pradesh will be considered. 10. Kharagpur " 11. Kurnool Additional demand for keroseae by Kerala for fishing sector 12. Kovilpatti 274. PROF. P. J. KURIBN : Will the 13. Kangayam Minister of PETROLEUM & NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : 14. Lucknow

15. Mannargudi (a) whether Kerala has demanded additional quantity of kerosene for meet­ 16. Mayawaram ing the requirements of the fishing sector;

17. Mandsaur (b) if SD, tho quantity demanded ; and

18. Nagarkoil (c) the quantity actually supplied ? Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written An.rwe,s 104

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) whether rules regarding regularisa­ MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & NATU­ tion of capacities in excess of licensed RAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR ones, have been liberalised recently ; SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, the details thereof; and (b) & (c). On the request made in April/May, 1985 by the Govt. of Kerala (c) the reasons for this liberalisation ? for an allocation of 1,500 KL for meeting the requirements of the fishing sector, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1,000 KL per month of kerosene is being DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL allccated to the State for this purpose. DEVELOPMENI (SHRI M. ARUNA­ CHALAM): (a) to (c). With a view to Survey of foreign collaboration in Indian enable the industrial undertakings to industry maximise their production by optimum uti­ lisation of installed capacities, the scheme 275. SHRI B. V. DESAI: Will the of re-endorsement of capacities announced Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to in April, 1982 has been re-introduced in state: a modified form, the details of which are given in the Ministry of Industry, Depart­ (a) whether more than 43 per cent of ment of Industrial Development's Press the proposals of foreign collaboration Note No.1 (1986 Series) dated 15.1.86, during the 4 years ending 1984 became copies of which have been supplied to the infructuous ; Parliament Library.

(b) if so, whether the Fourth survey LPG agencies given to freedom fighters of foreign collaboration in Indian industry 277. SHRI CHIRANJI LAL SHARMA: 1977-78 to 1980-81, conducted by the Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Reserve Bank of India, shows that the NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : number of infructuous proposals from East European countries were almost twice (a) the total number of gas agencies those of effective agreements with these given to freedom fighters in Haryana so countries ; and far; and

(c) if so, the other points that have (b) the total number of gas agencies been highlighted by the survey and steps proposed to be given to freedom fighters taken to r{move the defects pointed out by during 1986 ? them? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTR Y OF PETROLEUM & DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) & (b). Two LPG CHALAM) : (a) to (c). The information distributorships have been awarded under is being collected and will be laid on the the 'Freedom FIghters' category in Table cf the House. Haryana so far. While selection for a third is under way, a fourth distributor­ ship under this category is included in the Liberalisation of rules ftr regularisation oil industry's Marketing P1an 1985-86. . of capaciti~s in excess of licensed ones [Translation] 276. SHRI : Setting up of petro chemical complex at Barauni SHR~I ANAND SINGH: 278. PROF. CHANDRA BHANU Will the Minister of lNDUSTR yf be DEVI : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY pleased to state: be pleased to state: t 105 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answe;~ 106

(a) whether keeping the Barauni based the Minister of IN DUST R Y be pleased to oil refinery and the unemployment prevail­ state : ing there in view, Government propose to set up immediately a petro-chemical com­ (a) whether it is a fact that the pro­ plex at Barauni ; and duction in all the three plants of the Heavy Engineenng Corporation (HEC) in (b) if so, when the work of setting up Ranchi (Bihar) has been stopped since 11th the complex there is likely to be started? January, 1986 after the Bihar State Elec­ tricity Board disconnected power connec­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tion for non-payment of the electricity DEPARTME~T OF CHEMICALS & bills; and PETROCHEMICALS (SHRI R. K. JAICHANDRA SINGH) : (a) and (b). (b) if so, the details of the.arrears and Location of such projects is decided on the reasons for non-payment? techno-economic consideration. In the report submitted in Mar~h, 1981, the Site THE MINI3TER OF STATE IN THE Selection Committee constituted by DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Government of India had inter-aUa recom­ DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ mended that the site at Barauni might be CHALAM) : (a) & (b). Power was dis­ suitable for setting up of a caprolactam connected for about 33 hrs. on 11 th and plant and the downstream units based on 12th Janulry, 1986 due to non-payment of aromatics. Accordingly, a letter of intent bills on account of funds constraint and has been issued in July 1985 to the Bihar production Was disrupt d. State Industrial Dev .lopmen t CorporatIOn Ltd. for the setting up of a plant at The arrears claim of Bihar State Elec­ Barauni for the manufacture of 50,000 tricity B02rd as on 11.1.1986 on Heavy tonnes/year of caprolactam. Engineering Corporation Ltd., (HEC) was Rs. 3.03 crores. As against this, HEC's claim of Rs. 3 crores on Bihar State Elec­ [English] tricity Board is under arbitration. Replacement of Imphal Telephone Exchange machinery I r:crease in price of coal 279. SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be 281. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA pleased to state: REDDY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (a) whether Government are consider­ ing the replacement of the present Tele­ (a) whether due to the increasCi in price phone Exchange machinery at Imphal by of coal the power units have to spend 3 another one in the nea" future; and per cent more on purchase of coal ; and

(b) if so, the details and reasons (b) the impact of this additional ex. thereof? penditure on the power generation?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF ENERGY MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI V ASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA): (a) & While considering the recent revision of Lb). There will be no replacement during coal prices, its impact on major consum­ Ihe Seventh Plan period. ing sectors such as Steel, Railways and Power etc. and on the eCO'lomy of the NOD payment of electricity bills by Heavy country, as a whole, was kept in view. The Engineering Corporation, Ranchi impact of increase in the price of coal w.e.f. 9-1-1986, on power sector was esti­ 280. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will mated to be 1.33 paise per unit (about 3%). 107 Written Answers FEBRUARY 2S, 1986 Written AlINe,., 108

Citroen car versus Maruti PETROCHEM[CALS (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. 282. DR. CHINTA MOHAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (b) & (c). The Policy Statement would state: be self-explanatory.

(a) whether it is a fact that Citroen (d) Shortly, Sir. Car offers several advantages over Maruti and other small cars in the market, especial1y in final customer price, running Production of coal costs, spares, etc. ; and 284. SHRI Y ASHW ANTRAO (b) whether Government will ensure GADAKH PATIL : Will the Minister of that indigenisation of Citroen is a part of ENERGY be pleased to state: the project in reasonable time-frame unlike Maruti which seems no where in sight? (a) whether Government have scaJed down the current year's production target THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of coal; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ (b) if so, by how much; and CHALAM) : (a) & (b). The application received from Mis. Escorts Limited for (c) the reasons for scaling down the the manufacture of Citroen car is under target? consideration. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI New Drug Policy VASANT SATHE) : (a) Yes Sir.

283. SHRI AKHTAR HASAN: (b) & (c). Since the pithead stocks of coal rose to an abnormally high figure of SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRASAD 30.4 million tonnes on 31.3.1985 and the SINGH: coal stocks were catching fire on account SHRI CHANDRA KISHORE of spontaneous combustion at a number of PATHAK: places, the target of coal production was reviewed and the target was reduced from SHRI NARESH CHANDRA 158.50 million tonnes to 154.5 million CHATURVEDI: tonnes.

Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : [Translation]

Allotment of quarters to employees of Heavy (a) whether a comprehensive Drug Policy is under the active consideration Engineering Corporation, Ranchi of Government; 285. SHRI RAM BAHADUR SINGH: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY (b) if so the salient features of the be pleased to state : new policy; (a) whether it is a fact that the quar­ (c) the nature of steps being taken to ters built for the employees of Heavy ensure availability of standard drugs to Engineering Corporation, Hatia, Ranchi the common man in this policy; and have not been allotted to them but have been allotted to police personnel, who do (d) when the new policy is likely to not even pay the rent thereof; and be announced ? (b) if so, the action being taken by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Government to ensure that the quarters DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND are allotted to the employees of H.E.C., 109 Written A.nswers PHALGUNA '6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 110

Hatia, Ranchi and the rent due from police Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Limited and personnel is recovered? Hindustan Antibiotics Limited.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Setting up of Oil Refinery at MangaJore DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M ARUNA­ 287. SHRI V.S. IYER: CHALAM) : (a) & (b). A few quarters Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND only have been alJotted by Heavy Engineer­ NATURAL GAS be bleased to state: ing Corporation on rental b,lSis to the police personnel posted in Police Stations in (a) whether the .Setting up of Oil HEC township for main'enance of law and Refinery at Man,galore has been iQ-cluded order. BEe has taken up the matter of in the Seventh Five Year Plan; recovery of rent due, with Government of Bihar. (b) if so, the amOUl)t earmarked during 1985-86 ; and [English] (c) the time by which the Refinery is Assj~taDce to the public sector to recover Jikely to start? their dues THE ~1INISTER OF STATE OF THE 286. SHRI S.M. GURADDI: Will MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND the Minister of INDUSTRY be pJeased to NATURAL GAS (SHR[ CHANDRA state : SHEKHAR SING H) : (a) Yes Sir.

(a) whether it is a fact that several (b) 0.78 crOTes (Redsed Estimate). public sector units dealing in Chemicals and Pharmaceuticals have their bjlJs for (c) Offers received from the various the products and medicines supplied to parties for setting lip this refinery in the Central Government Hospitals, Dispen­ joint sector are under examination by saries and State Governments in heavy Government. arrears ;

(b) the reasons for one public sector Decrease in efficiency of thermal pJants unit owing to another public sector unit and not paying regubrly 288. SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRAS~D to the public sector units; 2nd SjNGH : Will the f\iinister of ENERGY be pieased to state : (c) whether Government propose to take any steps to assist these public sector (a) whether efficiency of the thermal units to recover their dues? plants is decreasing in the country ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the details thereof and the DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND steps Government propose to take to raise PETROCHEMICALS (SHRI R.K. JAI­ thermal plants' efficiency ? CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) and (b). There are sizeable outstandit1gs from State THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Governments presu mably due to budget DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI constraints. ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) & (b). No, Sir. The average all-India Plant Load (c) In February, 1985, the State Chief Factor of thermal power stations during Ministers and Heads of Union Territaries the period April, 1985 to January, 1986 were requested, inter-alia, for clearance of was 51.3% as compared to 47.9 per all the outstanding bills of Public Sector cent during 1983·84 and 50.1 per cent drug companies. In October, J 985, Chief during 1984-85. To furth 2r improve the Ministers were again reminded in this Plant Load Factor, a number of measures reBard in respect of outstandinBs of Indian are bein~ t~ken on a contineops t>aSi$ Jl1 Written Answers FEBRUARY 2S, 1986 Written Answer, 112 which include (i) assistance to State Electri­ JUSTICE be pleased to state :. city Boards/Power Stations for undertaking plant betterment programmes; (ii) assist­ (a) whether Government are consider­ ing State Electricity Boards/Power Stations ing to reduce the voting age to 18 years ; in procurement of requisite quality and quantity of coal and also spare parts (b) if so, the details thereof; and from indigenous and foreign sources; (iii) visit of Task Forces and roving teams to (c) if not, the reasons therefor? identify weak areas requiring improvement and preparation of time-bound programmes THE MINISTER. OF ST ATE IN THE for rectification; (iv) training of engineers MINISTR Y OF LAW AND JUSTICE and opera tion and maintenance personnel ; (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a)' No, Sir. and (v) implementation of a centrally­ sponsored renovation and modernisation (b) Does not arise. scheme covering 32 thermal stations, with Central loan assistance totalling Rs. 500 (c) Having regard to the socio-econo­ crores. mic conditions obtaining in our country, it is not considered practicable or advan­ [Translation] tageous now to lower the voting age. Blackmarketing of LPG in traDS- area, Delhi State-wise electrification of villages 289. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRIPA THI : Will the Minister of PETRO ... 291. SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA : LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased PROF. K.K. TEWARY : to state:

(a) whether black-marketing in gas Will the Minister of ENERGY be cylinders is going on openly in trans­ pleased to state : Yamuna area of Delhi ; (a) the number of villages electrified (b) if so, whether Government have in the country so far; investigated into the matter; (b) the number of villages remain to (c) if so, action proposed to be taken be electrified, State-wise; and to check it ; and (c) the time by which those villages (d) if not, the reasons therefor? are expected to be electrified? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) No such reports ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) Based have been received by the oil industry. on the information received from States, 377,783 villages had been electrjfied in the (b) to (d). Do not arise. country upto 31.12.1985.

[English] (b) The number of vil1ages remaining to be electrified State-wise are given in Reduction in age limit for voting the attached statement.

290. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : (c) Cent per-cent electrification of SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRASAD villages in the country is expected to be SINGH: achieved during Seventh and Eighth Five Year Plans, su bject to a vailabilit)' of Will the Minister of LAW AND resources, 113 Written Answer" PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 114

Statement 1 2 3 Statement indicating "State-wise number of villages remaining to be electrified as on 31.12.1985 as per 1971 22. West Bengal 18,614 census.

Total (States) 195,956 s. States Village remaining No. to be electrified Total (U.Ts.) 2,387

1 2 3 Total (All-India) 198,343

1. Andhra Pradesh 4,087 ($)-The revenue block has been 9,448 2. Assam reckoned as the smallest adminis .. trative unit by the census 3. Bihar 32,984 authorities.

4. Gujarat 1,497 (+ )-62 vil1ages have been declared un­ inhabited. 5. Haryana (a)-As on 31.8.1985. 6. Himachal Pradesh 1,901 (b)-As on 30.11.1985. 7. Jammu & Kashmir 768

8. Karnataka 3,611 (b) Crisis in Heavy Engineering Corporation Plant at Ranchi 9. Kerala 292. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY 10. Madhya Pradesh 28,770 Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : 11. Maharashtra 2,149 (a) whether it is a fact that the Heavy 12. Manipur 1,294 Engineering Corporation at Ranchi is facing a severe crisis; 13. Meghalaya 3,295 (b) whether it is also a fact that this 14. Nagaland 278 (a) prime industrial unit suffers from securing orders; 15. Orissa 22,950 (c) whether this plant built by the aid 16. Punjab - <+> of the U.S.S.R. depends to a great extent on orders from U.S.S.R. ; 17. Rajasthan 13,153

18. Sikkim 201 ($) (d) whether due to frequent changes in the administrative machinery it is diffi­ 19. Tamil Nadu 28 cult to fix responsibility on the officers ;

20. Tripura 2,780 (e) whether Government have conduc­ ted any enquiry to know the causes of the 21. Uttar Pradesh 48,086 crisis; and its Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 116 by tbe oil martedo. companies (rom (f) if so, the measure~ taken by Go­ various markets in tbe country_ vernment to put the Unit 10 proper order? (b) Such complaints arc investilated THE MINISTER OF STA TE IN THE by the companies and appropriate action DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DE· VELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- is taken. CHALAM) : (a) There bad been some in­ dustrial unrest and consequent loss of pro­ (c) Under-filling as well as over-filling duction in Heavy Engineering Corporation of cYlinders has been reported recently at Ltd., Ranchi (HEe). some bottling plants of the oil industry. This has been found to be due to erratic (b) Not in the recent past. functioning of the automatic filling machines and the weighing systems as a (c) No, Sir. result of heavy wear and tear in the course of intensive utilisation of the plant for (d) No, Sir. meeting the peak winter demand.

(e) & (0. Apart from industrial unrest, (d) The oil companies are carrying out lower productivity is amongst various urgent maIntenance of the machines and reasons for the present position in HEC. strengthening the internal checking and With a view to assisting the Company, control systems. Government have taken various steps including modernisation of the plant, Performance and targets of cement Industry strengthening of the management, and providing funds to the extent feasible. 294. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Complaints regarding short weight of L.P.G. pleased to state: 293. SHRI K P. UNNIKRISHNAN (a) whether there has been satisfactory PROF. P.J. KURIEN : production performance of cement indus­ try during the Sixth Five Year Plan as per Will the Minister of PETROLEU M targets fixed by Gov~rnment ; AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : (b) whether it is a fact that Govern­ ment had tried to give assistance to the (a) whether complaints have been re­ industry in various spheres including re­ ceived from all over the country about duction in levy quota and announced sale of under-weight LPG cylinders and various Iiberalisation measures, but the refills to the consumers ; industry had not tlken full advantage of these measures and had no programmes (b) whether these complaints have for modernisation of their units ; and been gone into by appropriate authorities or any enquiry conducted; (c) the targets fixed by Government to be achieved during the Seventh Five (c) the reasons fer such under-filling; Year Plan in cement industry? and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) the action taken to prevent under­ DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DE­ filling by the marketing companies? VELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ CHALAM) : (a) Considering the various THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE infrastructural constraints, performance MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND of the cement industry during the Sixth NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA Five Y car Plan is considered satisfactory SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) Complair.ts about in as much as cement production increased under-weight LPG cylinders are rec, h ed by 71 % from 17.62 million tonnes in 1979- in the course of their business operations 80 to 30.17 million tonnes in 1984-8~. 117 Writtell A"""'" PHALGUMA 6. 1907 (SAKA) Writt", A,1UWe" t18

(b) Taking advantage of the various OYT 407 measures of Hberalisations announced by the Government, cement industry and Non OYT 2217 undertaken an ambitious programme of modernisation/expansion at a total cost of Total 2624 over Rs. 2,600 crores and a cumulative expenditure of Rs. 763 crores had actually been incurred tiH March, 1985. (d) No, sir. (c) A production target of 49 mil1ion (e) A 3000 lines electronic exchange tonnes has been fixed for the last year of has been planned for instdlation at the Seventh Plan period MandaveH Exchange site during 1987-88.

Expansion of My'apore-Mandaveli Exchange (f) Land has been acquired at Manda­ in Tamil Nadu veli for installing an electronic exchange to meet the growing demand of the area ; 295. SHRIMATI VYJA Y ANTHI- MALA BALI : Will the Minister of COM­ (g) Building plans and estimates for MUNICATIONS be pleased to state: the construction of telephone exchange building are being processed for sanction (a) whether it is a fact that there is) and construction is expected to start in a only one telephone exchange to cover year's time. Mylapore-Mandaveli area in Tamil Nadu;

(b) the capacity of lines in this ex­ [Translation] change; Efforts to reduce consumption of Petroleum (c) the number of applications (cate­ Products gory-wise) for telephone connections under OYT and other categories in this telephone 296. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI exchange in the year 1985 ; SHAKT A WAT : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be (d) whether the existing capacity of pleased to state: this exchange is sufficient keeping in view the demand of new connections; (a) whether it is a fact that Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) have been (e) if not, the steps taken by Govern­ facing great difficulty due to fall in petro­ ment to expand this telephone exchange; leum prices in the world market ;

(f) whether any land had been allotted (b) the reasons for increasing the for construction of new building of this prices of petroleum products in the country exchange to expand its present working when there is possibility of the prices of capacity; and petroleum falling down from 28 dollars per barrel to 20 or 18 dollars per barrel ; (g) if so, the reasons for not starting the construction work as yet '1 (c) the efforts made to reduce tht! con­ sumption of petroleum products to safe­ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE guard national interest and achieved se]f­ MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS sufficiency without developing alternative (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, sources of cr.ergy ; and Sir. (d) if so, the steps proposed to be (b) 6800 lill es. taken in future to give relief to the common man? (c) App1ica~ions for telephone connec­ tions urder OYT andother categories are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE as follows: MINISTR Y OF PETROLEUM AND 119 Written Answers FEBRUARY 2S t 1986 Written Answm 120

NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA the Minister of PETROLEUM AND SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) Reports to that NATU RAL GAS be pleased to state: effect have appeared in the press. (a) whether all the L.P.G. cylinder (b) The prices were increased to con­ manufacturers in Kerala are getting suffi­ tain the rapid growth in the consumption cient orders from the user companies so as of petroleum products and to raise re­ to become economical1y viable; sources for the Plan.

(c) and (d). Measures are initiated to (b) if so, the details thereof ; conserve use of petroleum products and their efficient and economic use, for deve­ (c) whether there were complaints in loping alternate source of energy etc., the past about lack of orders ; and These are expected to contain prices to some extent of petroleum purchases. (d) if so, the steps taken to remove these complaints ? Waiting list of LPG in Rajasthan THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 297. SHRI BANWARI LAL BAIRWA : MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NA TURAL GAS (SARI CHANDRA SHE­ NATURAL GAS be pJeased to state : KHAR SINGH) : (a) to (d). According to information available with the oil industry, (a) the number of persons in Rajasthan there is one unit in Kerala for manufac­ on the waiting list for getting cooking gas ture of LPG cylinders. This units did not connections, district-wise; and quaJify for placement of orders under the po1icy decided upon earlier in the year. (b) the number of gas connections The oil industry has recently placed orders being provided in Rajasthan every year on this unit. . and the number of connections likely to be provided by the end of 1986 ? Agreement with U.S.S.R. for drilling in Cambay and Cauvery basin THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND 299. SHRI V. TULSIRAM : Will the NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA Minister of PETROLEUM & NATURAL SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) As on 31-12-85 GAS be pleased to state: there were approximately 1,46,220 persons on the waiting list in Rajasthan for getting (a) whether agreement between India cooking gas connections. Dhtrict-wise and the Soviet Union has been reached for details are not readily available. oil search in Cambay and Cauvery basins;

(b) During 1985, 41153 connections (b) if so, the details thereof and the were released in Rajasthan. Release of time by which the work is expecte d to be new connections in the country is made commenced, the quantity and quality of under the annual enrolment programme of oil expected to be drilled ; the oil industry and is determined by augmentation in the availability of LPG, (c) whether the agreement includes bottling capacity, trnnsportation arrange­ ments and other infrastructure. Release drilling of oil found in the basins of Godavary and Krishna rivers in Andhra of new connections in Rajasthan in 1986- 87 will be made in terms of the oil indus­ Pradesh; tries target for that year. (d) if so, the details thereof and if not. (English] the reasons therefor;

Steps taken to remove Complaints of L.P.G. (e) whether ONGC alone will dril1 the Cylinder MaDufacturers in Kerala oil in the basin of Godavari and Krishna rivers or Government propose to enter into 298. SHRI K. MOHAN DAS : Will contract with some other country; and 1~1 Written A.nswers PHAtGtJNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answers

(f) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Out MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND of 10 main Islands only two viz. Kavarathy NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA and Minicoy are conrected by Telephone SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. Service to Kerdla Mainland.

(b) Soviet organisations will carry out (b) The following steps are proposed intensive integrated exploration in North to be taken to improve the telecommuni­ Cambay and Cauvery onshore basins as ca tion services in the I ~Iands.

per pr('gnl mme given below : (i) Satellite Earth Stations have been proposed at Androth, Agatby, North Cau very Ameni and Kalpani. UHF links Cambay (Radio &ystems) have been pro­ posed between Ameni-Kadamath, Ameni-Kiltan. Chetlat-Kiltan and Chetlat-Bitra. Seismic survey 3100 LKM 4000 LKM (ii) STD for Kavarathy has been pro­ Drilling posed for 1988-89. (a) No. of (iii) A 45 lines telephone exchange has wells 38 37 been proposed at Chetlat for the Cll rren t financ ial year. (b) Meterage 81,500 1,22,000

Duration 1986-1992 1986-1995 [Translation]

S.T.D. services between Delhi and Ballia and (c) No, Sir. betll'een Delhi, Azamgarh and Gazipur

(d) Against the option given, the Soviet 301. SHRI JAGANNATH CHOU­ Side have chosen 8reas in the North DHAR Y : Will the Mini~ter of Cambay and Cauvery onshore basins COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state:

(e) & (f). According to the present (a) whether Government propose to plan, ONGC alone will drill oil wells in the introduce S.T.D. serVice between Delhi onland Krishna-Godavari basin. However, and BaHia and between Delhi Azamgarh it has been decided to offer a few block~ and Gazipur ; jn the offshore areas of this basin to foreign oil companies to bid for exploration. (b) if so, the time by which it is likely to be introduced ; and Connecting islands in Laksbadweep with Kerala mainland by telephone senice (c) if not, tbe reasons therefor? 300. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, (a) how many islands in Lakshadweep Sir. are connected to Kerala mainland by . telephone services ; and (b) & (c). It is planned to introduce STD facilities to BaHia, Azamgarh and (b) the steps proposed to be taken to Gazipur during the 7th plan period by improve the communication system in the linking them with Varanasi Trunk Auto.. islands? matic Exchange which will provide nation .. Written Answers FeBRtJA1t Y 2S, 1986 . Written Answd4 124 wide subscriber dialling facility to number made to the (under of stations including Delhi. State quota) during the years 1984 and 1985 a re given below : [English] (figures in thousand tonnes) Connecting Bankura with Delhi and Calcutta bySTD Year Allocation Despatches 302. SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA: (including (including Will tbe tvlinister of COMMUNICATIONS Irrigation Irrigation be pleased to state : & Power & Power Projects) Projects) (a) whether there is any proposal for connecting Bankura with Delhi and Calcutta by STD system; and 1984 66 27

(b) if so, the details thereof? 1985 67 36 (Provisional) THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) & Details of rigs deployed for drilling (b). Bankura is a manual exchange. It has been planned to connect Bankura with Delhi 304. SHRI AMAL DATTA: Will and Calcutta for STD by linking it with the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Asansol Trunk Automatic Exchange after NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : automatisation of Bankura and providing reliable transmission medium between (a) the places where drilling for petro­ Bankura and Asansol. leum/gas is going on and the stage of drilling in each such place details thereof; Allocation of cement to Tripura (b) how l11any rigs are in use for oill 303. SHRI AJOY BISWAS : Will the gas exploration ; Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (c) whether the present number of rigs are insufficient and in some case unsuit­ (a) the total requirement of cement of able; Tripura in 1984 and 1985 ; (d) whether non-availability of suitable (b) the allocation of cement by the rigs is hindering dril1ing operations; and Union Government to Tripura during the above period; and (e) if so, the details thereof? (c) the actual quantity of cement despatched during the period to Tripura ? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) The drilling is DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ going on in the foJJowing pJaces/basins ; CHALAM): (a) The requirements of State Governments for cement are not Cambay obtained on regular' basis, nor had the Government of Tripura intimated th~ir Assam and Arakan requirements in 1984 and 1985. Kutch-Saurashtra (b) and (c). The details of allocation of levy cement and despatches of levy cement Rajasthan Written Answers f»HAtGUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) Written A1J8Wers

Bengal THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Cauvery NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) No, Sir; there Krishna-Godavari is firm commitment to supply gas only for meeting the feedstock r~quirements of RCF, Arunachal Pradesh ThaI ; gas for fuel is being supplied purely on a fallback basis, subject to its avail­ Andaman Offshore ability, after meeting the requirements of priority consumers on regular basis ; Bornbay Offshore and (b) & (d). With increase in offtake by North East Coast. the priority consumers for whom gas is being supplied on regular basis, surplus The drilling in most of these places is availability of gas for supply to fallback exploratory and continues according to the users has reduced since September 1985 ; plan. (c) The fueJ requirement of RCF ThaI (b) Presently 53 rigs in operation for is equivalent to I mi1Jion cubic metres of exploratory drilling. gas per day; its boilers are equipped to use both coal and gas for fuel purposes. (c) The existing 1 igs are suitable and there is p]an to ~cquire/(.hartcr bire more rigs to fulfil requirements of the Installation of telephone connections in ears plan. 306. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: (d) No, Sir. Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (e) Does not arise. (a) the number of telephone connec­ Supply of Gas to ThaI Unit of Rashtriya tions installed in cars in New Delhi ; Chemicals and Fertilizers Ltd. (b) the time by which the system of 305. SHRI D.B. PA TJL: Will the instal1ing telephones in cars will start Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU­ commercially in other metropolitan cities RAL GAS be pleased to state: like Calcutta and Madras;

(a) whether it is a fact that there was (c) whether there is any restriction on a firm commitment to supply gas by Oil number of telephones to be installed in and Natural Gas Commission to Rashtriya cars; and Chemicals and Fertilizers Ltd. for its pro­ ject for production of fertilizers at ThaI, (d) if so, what would be the quantum Distt. Raigad (Maharashtra) for both of such connections to be installed in purposes i.e. as raw material and as cars? energy; THE MiNISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) whether it is also a f~ct that supply MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS of gas for energy purpose has been cut (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA) : (a) 38 down since August, 1985 ; mobile telephones in cars have been installed in Delhi so far. (c) if so, the details of the requirenlent of R.C.F. of gas for energy purpose; and . (b) It is proposed to introduce car telephones in other metropolitan cities (d) the reasons for cutting down the depending upon viability and popularity supply of gas ? of the service introduced in DeJhi. 1~1 Written Answers FEtJltuARY 2S, 1986 Written A.nswer,

(c) and (d). The equipped capacity of (d) if so, the details in this regard? the mobile radio telephone system in Delhi is 100, which can be increased if there is THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE demand for the same. MINISTR Y OF PETROLEUM A NO NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA Power througb micro-hyde) projects to SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) & (b). During Sikkim the current year (1985-86) six seismic and one gravity magnetic parties are in opel a­ 307. SHRIMATI D.K. BHANDARI: tion in West Bengal. Three rigs are also Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased engaged in exploratory drilling. to state : (c) & (d). The al,"ea is considered pro- (a) whether Governn1ent are aware spective but so far no commercia) that in hin areas power through micro­ discovery of hydrocarbons has been made. hydel projects could help in arresting denudation of wood used for fuel con­ sumption ; Opening of branch post offices

(b) if so, the number of micro-hyde I 309. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: Will schemes that have been thought of by the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Government in areas which have high pleased to state: power generating potential; and (a) tbe number of branch post offices (c) if the reply is in the affirmative, sanctioned in each state in 1983-84, 1984- whether Sikkim has been included as one 85, 1985-86 ; of those areas ? (b) hoW many of these branch post THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE offices were opened; DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) Yes, Sir. (c) reasons for not opening the remain­ ing branch post offices already sanctioned; (b) & (c). Micro/mini/small hydel and schemes are currentJy being executed under the various State Plans and 87 (d) the time by which tht:se branch schemes are under operation and 78 post offices will be opened? schemes are under construction in different parts of the coun try. In Sikkim, there are THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 3 such schemes under operation and 2 MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS more under construction. (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA): (a) The number of branch post offices sanctioned Oil exploration in West Bengal in each State in 1983-84 and in 1984-85 is indicated in the attached statement. During 1985-86 no post offices were 308. SHRI PRIY A RANJAN DAS sanctioned on account of the ban on MUNSI : Will the Minister of PETRO­ creation of posts. LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : (b) Out of 2314 post offices sanctioned (a) whether any programme of fresh during 1983-84, 2146 were opened. During oil and gas exploration is likely to be 1984-85, 62 post offices which were sanc­ taken up this year in West Bengal; tioned on the basis of a special relaxation obtained from the Ministry of Finance (b) if so, the details thereof; were also opened.

(c) whether entire sea coast of Digha (c) During 1983-84, 168 post offlces (Contai), M!dnapore is full of oil reserves; sanctibned were not opened on account of and ' . the ban on creation of posts. ' W,ltten A"swer" PHALOUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) W,ltten AIINer's

(d) As and when the ban on creation postal facilities that may have become of posts is lifted or relaxed, the remaining available in the meantime under the newly cases may be considered taking into introduced scheme of licensed postal account the resources available, and the agents.

Statement

Branch post offices sanctioned and opened in each State/Circle ..

SI. Name of the State/ 1983-84 1984-85 No. Circle Sanctioned/Opened Sanctioned & Opened

1 2 3 4 5

1. Andhra Pradesh 150 147 1

2. Bihar 311 198 8

3. Delhi

4. Gujarat 98 98 1

5. Dadara & Nagar Ha veli

6. Jammu & Kashmir 33 33 3

7. Karnataka 50 50 1

8. Kerala 75 13 1

9. Lakshadweep

10. Madhya Pradesh 218 268 8

11. Maharashtra 225 216 7

North Eastern

12. Assam 113 106 1

13. Arunachal Pradesh 23 13

14. Meghalaya 6 6 1

15. Manipur 15 15

16. Mizoram 7 5 1

11. Nagaland 16 16

18. Tripura 4 4 1~1 Wrilten AliNe;' FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answer; 132

1 2 3 4 5

North Western

19. Haryana 46 38

20. Punjab & UT Chandigarh 27 27

21. Himachal Pradesh 34 34 6

22. Orissa 120 120 3

23. Rajasthan 144 144 5

24. (a) Tamil N"du 110 120 3

(b) Pondicherry

25. Uttar Pradesh 337 331 8

West Bengal 177 146 4

26. Sikkim 3 3

27. Andaman & Nicobar 2

Total 2314 2146 62

Review of 'No Industry District' Scheme (b) The Recommendations of the Committee are awaited. 31{). SHRI S.G. G HOLAP : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be p]eased to state: Oil production from Bombay Higb and Gujarat oil fields (a) wbether it is a fact that a com­ mittee was appointed to review 'No In­ 311. SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEK­ dustry Distrjct' Scheme and to revise it WAD : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM appropriately; and AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : (b) if so, the recommendations of the committee and action taken by Government thereon? Ca) the crude oil production expected during Seventh Five Year Plan from diffe­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE rent oil fields in Gujarat ; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M ARUNA­ (b) the crude oil production from CHALAM) : (a) An Inter-~1inisterid Bombay High and its satellite fields from Committee has been appointed to review 1980-81 to 1984-85 ; and and revise the scheme of industrialisation of backw'!rd areas including 'No-Industry (c) the target fixed for production of Districts~ . crude oil by the end of Seventh Plan ? Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answers 134

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) The number of appJications received MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND for neW connections during this period NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA are as under :- SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) and (c). The target for production of crude oil in the Telephones Tel.:!x country for Se\enth Five Year Plan is 159 million tonnes including 25 million tonnes 1. Rajkot City 2,262 14 from different oil fields in Gujarat. 2. Rajkot District 1,257 12 (b) 63.36 DliHion tonnes. (excluding city)

3. Other Districts in- rTrallslation] cluding Ahmedabad 42,867 237

New Telex and Telephone connections in (c) The number of persons on the wai­ Gujarat ting list as on 31-1-86 is as under:

312. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN Telephones Telex RAMJIBHAI MA V ANI: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to 1. Rajkot City 9,086 Nil state : 2. Rajkot Distt. (exclu- (a) the number of new connections of ding Rajkot City) 1,458 9 telephone and telex given in Rajkot City, Rajkot district and other districts of 3. Other Districts inclu- Gujarat during the period from 1-1-85 to ding Ahmedabad 85,259 308 10-2-86 ; (d) The new connections expected to (b) the number of applications for new be given upto December, 1986 are as connections received during this period; under:

(c) the number of persons on the wai­ ting Jist as on 31-1-86 for such connections Telephones Telex at the aforesaid places; and 1. Rajkot City. 5,000 On Demand (d) the number of new connections 2. Rajkot Distt. (exclu~ expected to be given upto December, ding Rajkot City) 400 1986 ? 9

3. Other Districts inclu­ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ding Ahmedabad 25,000 MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS 65 (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA) : (a) The number of neW connections of telepqone [English] and Telex given from 1-1-1985 to 10-2-1986 are as under: Capital outlay for optimum utilisation of gas recovery T ~ lephones Telex 313. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the Rajkot City . 485 7 Minister of PETROLEUM AND NA TU­ RAL GAS be pleased to state : 2. Rajkot District 1265 Nil (excluding city) (a) whether any estimate of reco\'crable gas reserves in the country has been made 3. Other Districts and any programme for optimum UtilisltioD including Ahmedabad 21866 ISS thereof envisaged; FEBRUARY 25, 1986 "rlll", A",.", 1U iaJ 1f,11111I iuwers

(b) if so, the estimated reserves in the' United Nations Development Programme offshore areas; and (UNDP), United Nations Industrial Deve­ lopnlent Organisation (UNIDO) and Coal (c) the board outlines of the pro­ India Limited. The Report bas examined gramme and the capital outlay involved the technology to be adopted for and the and areas identified? economics of a plant to manufacture 1 million tonnes of liquid products per year. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE According to the Report the project would MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND involve a capital investment of Rs. 2,800 NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA crores. SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. New policy approach for management (b) The recoverable offshore gas re­ of public enterprises serves have been estin1ated at about 380 biJIion cubIc metres as on 1-1-1985 ; 315. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the Minister of JNDUSTR Y be pleased to (c) The recoverable reserves of gas in state : the offshore are spread over in different parts of the country such as \Vestern off­ (a) whether the Standing Conference shore, Andbra Pradesh, East-Coast , etc. on Public Enterprises (SCOPE), an orga­ It is proposed to produce and utilise gas nisation of public sector companies, has for production of fertilizers, petrochemi­ thrashed out a new policy approach in cals, generation of power and a host of regard to the management of public enter­ other applications. A total capital outlay prises ; of about Rs. 3000 crores has been proposed in the Seventh Plan period for creation of (b) if so, its broad outlines; and necessary production, processing trans­ portation and LPG extraction facilities in (c) Government's reaction thereto? respect of gas from the Western Offshore areas. This excludes the outlays required THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE for setting up of gas-consuming projects. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ Report of Coallodia Limited on Production CHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. of synthetic liquid fuel s from Coal (b) & (c). Does not arise. 314. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Construction of Power Plants in Orissa

(a) whether the Coal India Ltd. (CIL) 316. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: bas since presented the preJiminary feasi­ WilJ the Minister of ENERGY be pleased bility report on the production of synthetic to state: liquid fuels from coal prepared under a UNDP-UNIDO supported project; (a) whether Orissa State Electricity Board had called for detailed technical (b) jf so, the broad outlines thereof; and budgetary offers from various inter­ and nationally reputed firms for construction of two power plants in Orissa ; (c) if not, the time likely to be taken by the elL to present the report? (11) if so, the response thereto and the THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI action taken by the Orissa State Electricity VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). A pre­ Board; feasibility study report on preparation of synthetic oil from coal has been presented (c) whether these projects are pending to the Government of India. The Report with the Government of India for clea­ lias been prepared by a consultan t for rance ; and 137 PHALOUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) Written Annver, 138

(d) if so, the details thereof and by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE when these projects win be cleared ? DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVB. LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) The foUowing companies are presently DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF engaged in the manufacture of razor MOHAMMAD KHAN): (a) & (b). The blades: Government of Orissa have informed that the Orissa State EJectricity Board have invited global tenders for two gas turbine 1. MIs. Harbans Lal Malhotra & Sons, plants and the closing date is 28-3-86. The Calcutta. Government of Orissa have also received preliminary offers from foreign equipment 2. Mis. National Razor & Blade Com­ suppliers, with financial packages, for the pany, Calcutta. Ib Thermal Power Project. A decision in regard to offers for this thermal plant can 3. Mis. Centron Industrial Alliance be taken on receipt of detailed offers Ltd., Bombay. con sid ering various factors such as resource constraints, technic,' 1 & financial sui ta­ 4. Mis. Vidyut MetalIics Limited, bility of the offers, availability of matching Bombay. rupee requirement, availability of equip­ ment indigenously etc. 5. Mis. T.T. Blades Ltd., Madras. (c) & (d). The Project Report fOl Gas Turbines, submitted by the Orissa autt-.o­ 6. Mis. Sharpedge Limited, New rities to the Centra I Electricity Authority Delhi. can be consid ered for techno-economic clearance after all the nece::;sary inputs 7. Mis. Indo Swing Ltd., IIyderabad. including fuel are tied up. The Ib Thermal Power Project has been accorded techno­ 8. Mis. Everkeen Razor Blade Com­ economic approval by the Central Electri­ pany lAd., Bombay. city Authority. 9. Mis. Wiltech India Ltd., Bangalore. Companies manufacturing blades (b) None. 317. SHRI CHINTAMANI lENA Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (c) & (d). Yes, Sir. An Industrial Licence was issued to Indian Shaving Pro­ (a) the names of the companies which ducts Ltd. in December, 1984 for establish­ are manufacturing blades in the country; ment of a New Undertaking in Bhiwadi (Rajasthan) for manufacture of :Razor Blades with an annual capacity of 300 (b) the names of the foreign companies Minion Numbers in collaboration with out of them; MIs. Gillette Blade Mfg. Co. of USA. Further, a proposal of MIs. Hyderabad (c) whether any new licence has been AlIwyn Ltd. for manufacture of (i) Safety issued for installation of new blade factory Razor made with an annual capacity of in the country; 240 million Nos. ; and (ii) Twin Track Shaving Systems with an annual capacity (d) if so, the details thereof; of 60 Million Nos. in collaboration with Mis. Warner Lambert of USA has also (e) whether any foreign company has been approved. applied for granting licence for installation of blade factory in India; and (e) No, Sir. (f) if so, the details thereof and the action taken thereon ? (f) Does not arise, 139 Written Answers FEBRUARY 2S, 1986 W,ltten ~nswers 140

Undertaking of coal exploration work in and HAL are engaged in the production collaboration with USSR of some Anti-T.B. and anti-Leprosy formu­ lations. Names of other non-FBRA 318. SHRIMATI JAYANTI companies, who are producing anti.. T. B. PATNAIK: 'ViII the Minister of and Anti-Leprosy bulk drugs in the ENERGY be pleased to state : organised sector are giv~n in attached statement. (a) whether Government have a pro­ posal to undertake the coal exploration (c) Several anti-T .B. and anti-Leprosy 'work in collaboration with USSR ; drugs have been delicensed for non-FERA and non-MRTP Companies. (b) if so, the name and the number of coal mines identified for exploration with Statement the joint collaboration of India and USSR; and Sl. Name ~f Drug/Name of the (c) the details of the terms of agree­ No. Company ment signed between USSR and India to implement the above programme? A. Anti-T.D. Drugs THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). A I. Pas & Salts: contract has been entered into between Technoexport, USSR and Central Mine 1. Bio-chern & Synth Pharming & Design Institute, Ranchi on rendering technical assistance to CMPDI 2. IDPL in i~proving coal drilling operations. The contract provides for training of Indian 3. Wander personnel in USSR and deputation of Soviet experts to India for preparing a 4. Bio-Evans drilling manual and instructions. II. I.N.H. Another contract with USSR on trans­ fer of technology in coking coul exploration 1. Cherno Pharma is under consideration of Geological Survey of India. 2. Suneeta Labs.

Production of anti-T .B. and Leprosy Drugs 3. Bio-Evans

319. SHRIMATI JA Y ANTI III. Thiacetazone PATNAIK: Will the Minister of INDUS­ TRY be pleased to state: 1. Unichem Labs.

(a) whether Government have taken 2. Bio-Evans steps to produce some anti-TB and anti­ leprosy drugs in the country ; IV. Ethambutol

(b) if so, particulars of the Indian firms L Themis Chemical which produce such drug in the country; and 2. Cadila Labs.

(c) the other steps taken to encourage 3. Lyphin Chemical Indian firms to produce such drugs? 4. Lupin Labs. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND 5. Reptakos Brett PETROCHEMICALS (SHRI R.K. JAI­ CHANDRA SINGH) ; (a) & (b). IDPL 6. Sarabhai Chemical 141 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6. 1907 (SAKA) Written An!werl 142

v. Pyrazinamide CHANDItA SINGH): (a) and (b). A complaint has been filed in the United 1. Standard organics States Federal District Court, New York, for claiming inter-alia, compensatory and 2. Indo Pharma punitive damages. The first and second pre-trial Conferences have taken place. 3. Morani Chemicals Arguments on the motion of 'forum DOD­ conveniens' moved by Union Carbide B. ADti-Leprosy Drugs Corporation (UCC) have also been heard by the Court. The ruling of the Court on I. DDS (Dapsone) the motion is awaited.

1. Burroughs Wellcome (c) to (e). Negotiations with Union Carbide Corporation (UeC) are being held 2. BCPL under the umbrella and directions of the Court which are to be respected. 3. Tuber Pharma Relaxation in M.R.T .P. Act II. Clo/azimine 321. SHRI SANAT KUMAR 1. Astra IDL MANDAL : Will the Minister of INDUS­ TRY be pleased to state : 2. S.G. Chemicals (a) whether Government have decided to relax further the Monopo1ies and Settlement of compensation claims to the Restrictive. Trade Practices Act resulting Bhopal gas victims in its losing all its teeth, which were pro­ vided mainly to curb concentration of 320. SHRI SANAT KUMAR economic power at the time of its enact­ MANDAL: ment in 1969 ; and SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: (b) if so, the reasons therefor and the considerations which have impelled Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Government to resort to such a course of pleased to state: action? (a) the stage at which tbe settlement THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of compensation claims to the Bhopal g~s victim s stands at present; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- CHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. • (b) whether these cases shall be tried in U.S. or in India ; (b) Does not arise. (c) whether the Union Carbide is not serious about reaching a settlement; Number of ofticers and Employees in Dharat (d) whether any out-of-court settle­ Heavy Electricals Ltd. ment of the claims arising from the tragedy is also being mooted by the U.S. Courts; 322. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Will and the Minister of INDUSTRY b>! pleased to state : (e) if so, Government's reaction thereto '1 (a) the number of officers of the rank of Additional General Managers and above, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE at Delhi Offices of Bharat Heavy Electri­ DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND cals Ltd. alongwith the strength of other PETROCHEMICALS (SHRI R,K. JAI- officers and enlployees at Delhi; 14J Wrilt~" Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 W,lllell AlLfWe,., 144

(b) the total Dumeer of officers of the Magnet Hydro Dynamics, rank of Additional General Managers and Tiruchirapalli 215 above in whole of BHEL with the number of such officers in each category; and . Boiler Auxilliaries Plant, Ranipet . 2301 (c) the total number of employees at Control Equipmen t Division, each of BHEL's units '1 . Bangalore 2703

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Electroporcelains Division, DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Bangalore 1697 DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA .. Industrial Systems Group, CHALAM) : (a) There are 46 officers of the Bangalore 409 rank of Additional General Managers and above at BHEL's Delhi offices a]ongwith Jagdishpur 423 2~Ol other officers and employees. Goindwal 74

(b) There are 107 officers of the rank Varanasi 62 of Additional General Managers and above in the whole of BHEL. The category-wise Rudrapur 51 break-llp of such officers is given below: Power Group 4566 Chairman & Managing Director 1 Industry Sector 344 Directors 3 International Operations 49 Group General Managers/ Regional Operations Division 521 Executive Directors 12 Corporate Office, New Delhi 699 General Managers 64 Management Development Additional General- Managers 27 Institute, New Delhi 14

(c) The total number of employees at each of BHEL's units as on 30.11.85 was Production and profit/loss in Bharat Heavy as under: Electricals Ltd. Bhopal 18433 323. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Will Jhansi 1565 the Minister of INDUSTR Y be pleased to state : Heavy Electrical Equipment Plant, Hardwar 10704 (a) the total production and profita­ Pol1ution Con trol Research bility of Bharat Heavy Electrical Ltd. Institute, Hardwar 24 alongwith production and profit/loss figures for each of BHEL's units in each Central Foundry Forge Plant, of the last three years; Hardwar 1455

Heavy Power Equipolent Plant, (b) whether the bulk of BHEL's profit Hyderabad 10519 comes from suppJies to State Electricity Boards which are to pay higher for the R&D/Energy Systems Group, power generation equipment and spares Hyderabad 1004 because of BHEL's monopoly in India in this field ; and High Pressure Boiler Plant, TiruchirapaUi 14347 (c) how many Boards bave complained Seamless Steel Tube Plant, about prices or qualitY' of the equipment TiruchirapaJJi 1117 supplied &0 th~m ? l45 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written An.nvers 146

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE whether Planning Commission has also DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL approved the same? DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ CHALAM) : (a) to (c). The information THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE is being collected and will be placed on the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Table of the House. NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) No, Sir. Collaboration agreements signed by BHEL (b) Does not arise. 324. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pJeased to Import of containerised electronic excba.gel state : 326. PROF. NARAIN CHAND (a) how many collaboration agreements PARASHAR: Will the Minister of were signed by BHEL with foreign/Indian COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: companies in the Sixth Five Year Plan period, giving in each case the name and (a) whether Government have placed address of collaborator, name of Indian any orders for the import of containerised agent if any, year of collaboration, pro­ electronic exchanges of less than 100 capa­ duct(s) covered, amount so far paid on city from Japan and France during the past three years, including the current account of lump ~ sum charges, royalties, engineering and design charges, purchase financial year; of equipment and components etc. and such amount/fee likely to be paid in 1985- (b) if so, the names of the stations for 86 and 1986-87 ; which the exchanges have been ordered to be imported, circle-wise, the date of (b) whether BHEL's some Indian com­ p1acing the order and the dates on which petitors have entered into collaboration they have been received along with the agreements with foreign companies for cost in each case ; and similar equipment at much easier terms and for lower payments ; and (c) if not the like]y date by which the exchanges would be received, the reasons (c) whether detailed techno-economic for delay and the likely dates by which studies and comparative capabilities of they would be installed at each of the the collaborators were made before enter­ stations for which they have been allo­ ing into contract with them? cated ? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY O~~ COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) No DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ order for impol t of containerised Electro­ CHALAM) : (a) to (c). The infornlation nic Exchange of less than 1000 lines has being co11ected and wi11 be pJaced on is been placed. However orders for import the Table of the House. of 67 Nos. Non containerised Electronic Exchanges of sizes 400 lines and 600 lines Purchase of helicopters by O.N.G.C. fronl Japan have been placed.

325. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANI- (b) Information indicating the names GRAHl: Will the Minister of PETRO­ of the stations, circle-wise the size of LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased exchanges and their cost are furnished in to state: the attached statement. The orders were placed on 28.8.8S. All the exchanges (a) whether the Oil and Natural G,~s have been received in the country during Commission has sought permission to have January-February 1986. 22 French Dauphin 365 .. N helicopters for use in the Seventh Five Year PLln ; and (c) These exchanges are planned for installation during the next financial year

(b) if so, the details thereof and i.e. 1986-87 t 147 Writ/en Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answers 148

Statement

Details 01 small sized electronic exchanges

s. Name of Station Equipped Telecom Circle FOB Cost No. capacity (J. Yen) of Exchange

1 2 3 4 5

1. Armoor 400 Andhra Pradesh 19,279,496 2. Kothagudam . 600 -do- 21,574,564 3. Ramachandran Puram 400 -do- 20,972,288 4. Dumka 400 Bihar 18,984,376

S. 400 Bihar 18,984,376 6. Madhubani 400 Bihar 18,984,376 7. Nawadah 400 Bihar 18,984,376 8. Purnea 600 Bihar 21,085,780 9. Khaira 400 Gujarat 20,752,376

10. Kathua 400 J & K 19,484,312 11. Bajpe 400 Karnataka 18,529,524 12. Yelwal 400 -do- 18,529,524

13. KaJpetta 600 KeraJa 25,858,088 14. Mannar 400 Kerala 20,486,904

15. S.L. Puram 400 Kerala 20,482,688 16. Betul 400 M.P. 19,326,688

17. Datia 400 M.P. 19,256,512

18. Dhar 400 M.P. 19,256,512 19. Khargone 400 M.P. 19,256,512 20. Mandla 400 M.P. 19,256,512 21. Shajapur 400 M.P. 19,256,512 22. Ambikapur 600 M.P. 22,093,404 23. Balaghat 600 M.P. 22,093,404 24. Tikamgarh 400 M.P. 19,256,512 25. Bhind 600 M.P. 22,093,404 26. Guna 600 M.P, 22,093,404 149 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 150

1 2 3 4 5

27. Shivpuri 600 M.P. 22,093)404

28. Mamnad 600 Maharashtra 22,131,348 29. Mangaon 400 Maharashtra 19,433,720

30. Roba 400 Maharashtra 19,362,728 31. Hoflong 600 North-East 21,281,892 32. Lungleh 400 North-East 18,976,760

33. Naharlagon 400 North-East 19,508,316 34. Bilaspur 400 North-West 18,936,912 t 35. Nahan 400 North-West 19\484,176

36. Hamirpur 400 North-West 20,590,400 37. Una 400 North-\Vest 19,516,408

38. Chamba 600 North-West 22,134,476

39. Kulu 600 North-West 22,102,244 40. Keonjhar 600 Orissa 20,828,740

41. Koraput 400 Orissa 18,766,096 42. Phulbani 400 Orissa 18,910,392

43. Sundergarh 400 Orissa 18,768,000

44. Baripada 600 Orissa 21,076,260 45. Dhendanal 600 Orissa 20,828,740

46. Chattarpur 400 Orissa 18,800,232 47. Dungarpur 400 Rajasthan 22,346,092 48. Jalore 400 Rajasthan 21,102,440

49. JaiseImer 400 Rajasthan 19,01211 800 50. Jha]war 400 Rajasthan 19,229,992 51. Sawai-Madhopur 400 Rajasthan 19,167,432

52. Sawai-Madhopur (RS) 400 Rajasthan 20,436,992 53. Sirohi 400 Rajasthan 19,330,496

54. Bundi 600 Rajasthan 21,258,500

55. Tonk 400 Raj~lsthan 19,330,496 56. Jhun Jhunu 600 Rajasthan 22,347,724

57. Fatehpur 400 Uttar Pradesh 18,912,296

58. Gazipur 400 -do- 19,266,032 151 Written A1t6Wrs FEBRUAR Y 2S, 1986 Written AltSwers 152-

1 2 345

59. Lalitpur 400 -do- 18,980,568 60. Pauri 400 -do- 18,914,200

61. Pitharagarh 400 -do- 18,914,200 62- Orai 400 -do- 19,048,840 6l. Sultanpur 600 -do- 21,294,540 64. Banda 600 -do- 21,294,540 65. Rani Khet 400 -do- 19,330,496 66. Alipurduar 600 West Bengal 22,529,556 67. Sainthia 400 -do-- 20,260,464

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Note: (Rs. 100=16.55 Japanese Yens).

Opening of Branch Post Offices (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) & (b). Requests received from various 327. PROF. NARAIN CHAND sources for opening of Post Offices are PARASHAR: Will the Ministtr of examined with- reference to the norms COMMUNICA TIONS be pleased to state: pres('ribed by the Department and within the resources available Post Offices a r~ (a) whether a number of proposals for opened according to the priorities deter­ opening new Branch Post Offices were mined by the Circle authorities. Those fOWld to be justified in each one of the proposals which satisfy the prescribed Postal circ1es but the Branch Offices could norms but which cannot be S.tn ctioned due not be opened on account of the ban to paucity of resources or other factors imposed by the Government on the filling such as ban on creation of posts are held up of existing vacancies and the creation over for re-consideration at an appropriate of now posts ; time.

(b) if so, the number of such justified As on 31.3.1935, there w~re 2370 such proposals, as per the existing norms at proposals in all the postal circles taken the end of Sixth Five Year Plan for each together. The State-wise distribution of cirtJe (f01' e2ch State in the case of multi­ this number is given in the attached State circles) ; statement.

(c) whether Government would ensure (c) Taking into account (i) the con­ that atleast these Branch offices are opened straints of resources (ii) the continuing dllrill'~ the Seventh Five Veer Plan so rs ban on creation of posts and (iii) the fact to provide the necess2ry facilities to the thc::t by and large the postal network in rural areas ; the country both in urban and rural areas is reasonably well developed, opening of (d) if so, the targets for each year of new post offices during the remaining years tlte Seventh Five Year Plan; and of the Seventh Plan may be on a limited scale. However, licensed postal agencies (e) if not, the reasons therefor? may be set up ill some of the areas.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE .. (d) In view of the position explained MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS in part (c) above, targets have not been i53 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) laid down for each year of the Seventh Plan. 1 2 3

(e) The reasons are contaLlcd in answer to part (c) above. 11. North Western

Statement (a) Punjab 40 (b) Haryana The number 0/ proposals as on 31.3.1985 28 ill which the norms for opening 0/ Post (c) Himachal Pradesh 18 Offices are fulfilled. 12. Orissa 118

S1. Name of Circle/ No. of 13. Rajasthan 52 No. State/Union Proposals Territory justified 14. (a) Tarnilnadu 84 (b) Pondicherry 1 2 3 15. Uttar Pradesh 555

16. (a) West Bengal 237 1. Andhra Pradesh 80 (b) Sikkim 13 2. Bih r 179 (c) Andaman & Nicobar Island 2 3. D~lhi

4. (a) Gujarat 92 Total: 2370 (b) Dadar Nagar Haveli

5. Jammu & Kashmir 37 Modernisation of Coal Washer's

6. Karllataka 93 328. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RA W AT: Will the Minister of ENERGY 7. (a) Kerala 197 be pleased to state :

(b) Lakshdweep (a) whether both coking and nOD­ coking coal have been effected due to 8. Madhya Pradesh 227 deterioration of its quality in the coal fields; 9. (a) Maharashtra 174 (b) Goa (b) if so, whether Government are contemplating to find its solution by modernising the existing coal washeries 10. North Eastern and increasing their capacity; and (a) Assam 48 (c) if so, the time by which they are (b) Arunacha] Pradesh 15 proposed to be modernised· '1 (c) Manipur 20 THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (d) Megha\aya 26 VASA NT SATHE) : (a) There has been a gradual decline in the quality of Non­ (e) Mizoram 10 Coking coal in certain coalfields and also (f) Naga]and 17 the quality of raw coking coal fed to the washeries mainly due to the depletion of (I) Tripura 8· reserves of superior grades of coal. ISS Written AnsWets FEBRUAR. Y 2S, 1986 Written Answers

(b) & (c). A number of steps are being Increase in price of Newsprint taken to improve the working of the washe­ ries. These include modification of the 330. DR. T. KALPANA DEVI : plants to beneficiate the fines, installation SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: of the balancing facilities to optimise the plant opcrution etc. Modernisation scheme Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be has been ccmpleted in some of the washe­ pleased to state: ries while in others, preliminary work has been taken up and the modernisation (a) whether representations have been scheme is expected to be completed bet­ recd ved by Government from the Indian ween two to three years time. and Eastern Newspapers society regarding recent steep hikes in the price of newsprint Allocation of kerosene to Orrisa causing an unbearable burden on the neWs­ paper~ ; 329. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT­ NAIK : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM (b) if so, the details thereof; & NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (c) whelher the working of the public (a) the total allocation of kerosene sector units manufacturing newsprint had made to Orissa in 1985 and also proposed been thoroughly investigated before decid· to be made upto February 1986 ; ing to increase the price of newsprint;

(b) whether it is a fact that kerosene (d) if so, the outcome of the investi­ allocated to Orissa from Central pool is gations ; and much inadequate ; (e) the measures proposed to be taken (c) if so, whether Government propose by Government to ensure supply of ade­ to increase the allocation of kero~ene in quate quantities of newsprint to the news: 1986 ; and papers at reasonable prices ?

(d) if so, to what extent? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEV­ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & NATU­ CHALAM): (a) & (b). Representations RAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR have been received from the Indian and SINGH) : (a) A total quantity of 106,630 Eastern NewspJper Society stating that tonnes of kerosene was allotted to Orissa the recen t increa~e in the price of indige­ State during 1985, apart from 10,105 nous newsprint has adversely affected the tonnes per month al10cated for January economic viability of the newspaper in­ and February, 1986. dustry, and that it should be withdrawn.

(b) to (d). Under the present policy, (c) & (d). The claims of the indi­ the requirement of kerosene of States/ genous newsprint manufacturers for revi­ Union Territories, inc1uding Orissa State, sion of their ex-mill prices on account of is normaUy assessed by allowing a 5% the escalations in the cost of raw materials growth over the allocation made during the and other inputs were got examined by corresponding period of the previous ),ear the B.I.e.p. before Government decided on a four-month-block b~sis. However, to permit the price increase. A large part keeping in view the persistent requests of the escalations in costs c1a"imcd by the from the State Government, Orissa State n1anufacturers Was on account of the in­ has been aJlocated a quantity of 106,630 crease in working costs for forest raw tonnes of kerost;ne during 1985 which is materials and related taxes, increases in about 6.00/0 more than the allocation of royalties, hikes in power rates and increa­ 100,900 tonnes made in 1984. Allocations ses in tax on self-generated power. The during the remaining part of 1986 win be views of the representatives of lENS with made on the basis of tbe policy mentioned regard to the review of price of indigenous above. newsprint wer~ also taken into account. 157 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written A.nnvers 158 by the BICP while finalising their recom­ pris~s, for which the Public Enterprises mend~tions on the increase to be allowed Selection Board (PESB) have made recom­ to the indigenous manufacturers. mendations but appointments are yet to be made by Government are 21 and 24 res­ (e) As a result (If the various mc(:slIres pectively. taken by Government in the past, installed capacity for manufacture of newsprint has (b) Delay in making appointments increased from the level of 75,000 tonnes arises on account of various factors such in 1981 to 2.80 lakh tonnes in 1985. The as vigilance clearance, verification of indigenous industry is working to more than character and antecedents of individuals 90% cap~cilY utilisation. An additional prior to their appointment and time invol­ capacity to the extent of 7.46 lakh tonnes ved in placing the cases before the appro­ has been approved, which is in various priate authorities etc. stages of implementation. In ordlr to make up the short fall in indigenous (c) In regard to the existing vacancies, supply of newsprint, sizeable quantities of officiating arrangements have been made newsprint are being imported. While the so that the work of these enterprises does prices of imported newsprint is fixed on not suffer. the recommendation of the Newsprint price Fixation Advisory Committee, the indigenous newsplint manufaClUr(fS are [TrallsJat ion] allowed to cbarge only the prices based on nornlative criteria and as recommended by Demand for gas.at reduced price by tea the BICP. companies

,. Vacancies of chief executive and functional 332. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA : directors in public enterprises Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be ple2.sed to state: 331. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE: (a) whether the Tea Companies have SP.RI NARAYAN CHOUBEY : made a demand to reduce the prices of natural gdS ; Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) whether these companies are even prepared to bear the cost of laying pipe­ (a) whcthtr it is a fact that despite the Hnes ; selection of the incumbents by the PubHc Enterprises Selection Board, appointlnents of as many as 44 Chief Ex(cutiv('s and (c) whether it is a fact that the Oil Functional Directcrs in Public Enterprises and Natural Gas Commission has been are yet to be made by Governnlent ; destroying gas worth crores of rupees daily dt.;e to lack of adequate storage facility; (b) jf so, the reasons for delay in mak­ and ing these appointments; .and (d) the reasons for not supplying gas (c) the impact 011 the 0\ erall perfor­ to Tea Companies? mance of the units by delay in making thc.se appointn'ents ? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ~llNJSTRY OF PETROLEUM AND THE MIN1STER OF STA TE IN THE NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ CHALAM): (a) According to aNailable (b) Does not arise, as gas is already information, the number of vacancies at being suppJied to the tea companies either the level of Chief Executives (full-time through their own pipelines, or through Chairmen/M~naging Directors) and Func­ pipelines laid by the gas transportation tional Directors in Central Public Enter- agency. 1!9 Written'" Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answers

(c) A part of the associated gas pro­ (c) whether solar energy is also being duced by ONGC in Assam is being flared utilised for industrial purposes; on account of failure of consumers to lift the committed gas offtake. (d) if so, the details in this regard ;

(d) Gas supply is being nlade to tea (e) the cost of the solar energy plants; companies as and when they request for and it. (f) the amount provided in the Seventh [Ellglish] Five Year Plan for maximum utilisation of solar energy?

Existing capacity of automobile manufac­ THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI turing units and their expansion VASANT SATHE) : (a) & (b). 20 numbers of village level Renewable Energy Centres 333. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : are already functioning in various parts of Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be plea­ the country. These consist of a combi­ sed to state : nation of different new and renewable energy systems such as solar photov.oltaic (a) the existing capacity of the diffe­ operated street lights, water pumps, com­ rent units manufacturing automobiles; munity television, radio and refrigerators ; wind pumps ; biogas plants; improved (b) whether those units have made chulhas; solar cookers; solar hot water requests for expanding their capacities; systems, solar stills bio-mass gasifiers; and energy plantations etc. These are estima­ ted to be alreadY benefitting 15-20 thousa9d (c) if so, the decision of Government village inhabitants. In addition about two in the matter? hundred villages have already been provi­ ded street and community lighting by solar energy benefitting about one lakh inhabi­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tants. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ (c) Yes, Sir. CHALAM) : (a) The information is avail­ able in the booklet 'Indian Automotive (d) 640 solar thermal systems have al­ Industry' published by DGTD, Ministry ready been installed in various parts of the of Industry. A copy is available for re­ country for heat applications in industries, ference in the Lok Sabha Library. dairies, hotels, hospitals, canteens etc. (b) & (c). The requests for expansion (e) Cost of solar energy systems de­ of capacity, received from time to time, pends on type, size, utility and site where are considered on merits. the system is being installed.

(f) An amount of Rs. S9 crores has [ Translation] been allocated in the 7th Plan for the solar energy programme, including Re­ Solar energy centres search & Deve)opment.

334. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA : 'No Industry' Districts in Madhya Pradesh Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased and Industries set Dp with Central to state: Assistance

(a) the number of solar energy centres 33S. ·SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA : functioning at present in the country ; Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be plea­ sed to state: (b) the number of persons being bene­ fited by these centres ; (a) whether it is a fact that eightoen t61 "'ritle• .A"swer, PHAlGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer, districts of Madhya Pradesh have been allocation made at a higher growth rate, declared 'No Industry' districts by the on receipt of request from the State Govt., Union Government ; an additional ad hoc allocation of 1, 17S tonnes of kerosene per month for the (b) if so, the number out of those months of Nov., 85 to Feb., 86 was also where industrial units have been establi­ made as a special case to Madhya Pradesh shed with Central assistance by the end of raising the total allocation to 25,Q90 tonnes the Sixth Five Year Plan; per month for the above 4 months.

(c) the number of industrial units out No proposal to raise the kerosene of those where production has started allocation to 30,000 tonnes per month is and under consideration. Fuoctioning of telephoDes in Azamgarh (d) if production has not started in District (U.P.) those units. the reasons therefor? 338. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL pleased to state: DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ CHALAM) : (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether telephones in Azamgarh district of Uttar Pradesh always remain (b) to (d). Information is being collec­ out of order; ted and will be laid on the Table of the House. (b) whether it is a fact that no call for any place in the district matures even Allocation of kerosene for Madhya Pradesh from the ex change and telephone call are 336. SHRI DILEEP SINGH BHURIA : held up again and again ; and Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : (c) if so, whether Government propose to provide better telephone service to the (a) whether any proposal to increase subscribers by bringing about improvement the monthly allocation of kerosene for in this telephone exchange with a view to Madhya Pradesh from 23,600 metric tonnes give reli to them ? to 30,000 metric tonnes is under considera­ tion keeping in view the shortage of fire­ THE MINISTER OF STA TB OF THE wood and cooking gas in the state; and MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA) : (a) No, (b) if so, the time by which the in­ Sir. crease in allocation is likely to be made? (b) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) The functioning of telephone ser­ MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND vices in Azamgarh District is satisfactory. NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA However, close watch is being kept on the SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) & (b). The re­ performance of telecom. services in quirement of kerosene of 'itates/Union Azamgarh district and efforts are made to Territories including Madhya Pradesh is improve the service further. normally assessed by allowing a 5% growth over the allocation made during the corres­ [English] ponding period of the previous year on a four-month-block basis. Steps to iblproye telepltone dial tOile in BbubaDeswar For the present Winter Block compris­ ing tbe months o( November, 1985 to 339. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI. February, 1986, al1ocation at the enhanced GRAHl: WiU the Minister of COMMU­ rate of 71% has been made to enable the NICA TIONS be pleased to state : State Governments to meet the likely in­ creased demand. Over and above the (a) whether it has come to his notice Written An.rwer~ PEBRtJAR. Y 25, 1986 "'ritten Answer; that the users of telephones in Bhubaneswar sidering t be recommendations of Bureau (Orissa) are experiencing great difficulties of Industrial Costs and Prices was due for in getting dial tones in their telephones revision w. e.f. 1.4.1985. Since the last instantly due to the old cross bar equip­ revision, there has been substantial ment set up there; increase in the cost of production due to various factors such as escalation in the (b) whether requests have been recei­ cost of inputs such as stores, explosives, ved by the Ministry fer providing addi­ timber etc, increase in wages due to tional tr

(d) the steps propc sed to be taken by (a) whether Government have received Goy\:rnment to prevent esc2lation of prices representations in regard to increase in of luch consumer goods ? the price of molasses from different States;

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (b) if so, the details thereof; and VASANT SA THE) : (a) The price of coaJ fixed with effect from 8.1.1984 after con- (c) Government's reaction thereto 1 165 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answers 166

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Fall in sale of heavy commercial vehicles DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND due to insufficient funds available to PETROCHEMICALS (SHRI R.K. JAI­ transport operators CHANDRA SINGH): (a) & (b). The Indian Sugar Mills Association, in its Memorandum on long-term ~ugarcane and 343. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE sugar policy submitted to Government, PATIL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY has requested that the controlled price be pleased to state : on sugar Factory molasses should be increased to Rs. 20/- per quintal. (a) whether Government are aware that the production of heavy commercial (c) Policy on molasses would be vehicles has gone up considerably during decided after due consideration of all the financial year 1984-85 b!lt its sale has related aspects, including the impact on fallen down considerably as a result of alcohol-based industries. insufficient funds and reasonable terms to buy -tliese vehicles by transport operators;

Manufacture of tyres and suggestion for (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and reducing prices (c) the steps taken or proposed to be taken by Government to make sufficient 342. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE funds avuilable to the transport operators PATIL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY by Banks and other Financial Institutions? be pI eased to state :

(a) whether the tyre manufacturing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE industrial units are {lot producing sufficient DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL rubber tyres with their full installed capa­ DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ city resulting in shortage of tyres in the CHALAM): (a) & (b). No, Sir. However, country; in case of medium and heavy commercial vehicles, sale is somewhat less than anti­ cipated on account of improved per­ (b) if so, whether the tyre industry formance of Railways. have suggested exemption in customs and excise duties which lead to escalation of (c) Following measures have been prices in the industry; and taken by the Government to stimulate demand for mediun1 and heavy commer­ (c) if so, Government's reaction to cial vehicles : the suggestion of the industry? (i) A vailabitity of credit to State Transport Undertakings' under THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE lOBI's bill discounting system DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL has been enhanced. DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ CHALAM): (a) No, Sir. (ii) The condition of 10% margin money for STUs has been waived till 31.3.86. (b) and (c). Proposals are received from tyre industry from time to time for various fiscal reliefs so as to be (iii) Period of loan repayment in case able to reduce the prices of tyres. of small operators enhanced from Government are constantly reviewing 4 to 5 years till 30.6.86.. measures required to stabilise the prices of automotive tyres by stabilising as far (iv) Ceiling on No. of national per­ as possible the cost of manufacture of mits for freight carriers has been tyres. lifted. t61 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answers 168

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Rural electrification schemes for Almora (b) if so, the details thereof, the dates and Pithoragarh (UP) on which these were accepted and the total amount of loan sanctioned so far? 344. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state : DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN): (a) & (b). (a) whether any proposals have been During the current year upto January, received from certain development blocks 1986, the REC received two Rural Eelectri­ of Almora and Pithoragarh districts of fica tion Schemes for Almora District which Uttar Pradesh under Rural Electrification ha ve been sanctioned with the following Scheme for approval of Rural Electri- details:

Block Date of Total loan No. of Completion sanction sanctioned villages period (Rs. in lakhs) covered

1. Bnikiasain 'MNP' Feb 86 72.38 40 5 years

2. Chankhutiya 'MNP' Feb. 86 72.79 40 5 years

Seven more MNP schemes have been received for Almora District in February, 1986. No scheme has been received for Pithoragarh district during the current year.

Electrification of vinages in U.P. achieved by the end of this year in the referred Districts of Uttar Pradesh is 345. SHRI HARISH RAW AT : Will as 'under : the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Dehradun 79.0% (a) the percentage of villages proposed to be electrified by the end of this year in Chamoli the districts of DehraduD, Chamoli, Uttar­ kashi, Tebri,' Almora, Pauri Garhwal, Uttarkashi 67.7% Pithoragarh and Nainital in Uttar Pradesh; Tehri 43.3% (b) whether the percentage of villages electrified in some of these districts is less Al mora 56.0% than the all-India percentage in this regard; and Pauri GarhwaJ 36.8~~

(c) if so, the efforts likely to be made Pithoragarh 36.3% by the Government to increase the per­ centage of villages to be electrified in these Nainital 87.00/0 d:ltricts ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) The percentage of village electrifi­ DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF cation in these Districts is less than the MOHAMMAD KHAN): (a) Percentage all-India percentage except in the Districts of villase electrification likeJy to be of Dehradun, Uttarkashi and Nainital. 169 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6. 1907 (SAKA) Written Anlwers ]10

(c) All the hill areas have been includ­ Reduction in prices of petroleum products ed within the purview of Minimum Needs in proportion to fall in prices In inter­ Programme which envisage coverage of 65 natioDal market per cent of villages in all the States by the end of 1980s. Wide range of strategies in­ 347. SHRI HARISH RAWAT : cluding liberalisation of norms for loan SHRI NARSINH MAKWANA: assistance have been evolved to give the benefit of electricity to these areas expedi­ tiously. In addition, REC has opened a Will the Minister of PETROLEUM sub-office at Dehradun which helps the AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to State Electricity Board in formulation of state: new schemes and monitoring of on-going schemes in the hill district~ of Uttar (a) the amount of foreign exchange Pradesh. likeJy to be saved by India as a result of fall in purchase prices of petroleum pro­ ducts in the international market;

Hydro electricity pOtential in Uttar Pradesh (b) whether Government propose to reduce the sale prices of these petroleum products in proportion to the faU in their 346. SHRI HA RISH RAW AT: Will purchase prices ; and the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state : (c) if not the reasons therefor?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) the total hydro-electricity potential MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND of various rivers and water-falls in Uttar NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA Pratlesh and the extent to which this SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) The oil market potential is being h~rnessed at present; is still fluid. Import to be effected during and January to March 1986 is estimated to cost less by Rs. 135 crores relative to average cost for April to December, 1985. (b) the various steps being taken for exploitation of the existing hydro-electri­ (b) No. Sir. city pOlential during Seventh Five Year Plan and the extent of the total hydro­ (c) Although the current international electricity potenti al likely to be utilised by oil market is soft in the near term, there the end of the Plan period? is a general consensus among international analysts that it is bound to become increas­ ingly tight in the coming years and the oil THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE supply/demand balance has to be managed DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF in a manner as would safeguard the MOHAMMAD KHAN): (a) The total national interest in the long run. hydro-electric potential of the variolls rivers in Uttar Pradesh has tentatively been {English] assessed at 9726 MW at 60% load factor, out of which 1422 MW has been harnessed. Management of Badarpur Thermal Power Station (b) Six hydro-electric projects with a total installed capacity of 2396 MW are 348. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: presently under various stages of execu­ Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased tion. Out of this, 304 MW is expected to be to state: commissioned during the 7th Plan period. ]n this way total potential of 1726 MW (a) whether Government have since is expected to be utilized by the end of considered the recomnlendations made by 7th Plan period. the committee appointed ill December, 171 Written Answers FE;BRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answers 172

1984 to examine the question re: future (b) if so, the names of the countries pattern of ownership and management of which are taking part in oil exp loration or Badarpur Thermal Power Station; have offered to do so ;

(b) if so, the action taken by Govern­ (c) the locations where foreign coun­ ment thereon; tries are being allowed to . tuke up oil exploration work ; (c) the agency to which the manage­ ment of Badarpur Thermal Power Station (d) the terms and conditions in each is proposed to be entrusted after the expiry case; and of the period of agreement with the National Thermal Power Corporation; (e) which other areas in the oil (d) whether a separate organisation is industry are being considered for foreign contemplated for the operation and main­ participation and_ transfer of latest technology? tenance of Badarpur Therma I Power Station; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (e) if so, the details thereof and when MINISTR Y OF PETROLEUM AND it is likely to be set up ? NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEHKAR SINGH) : (a) to (d). Pursuant THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to the agreements signed in Moscow on DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF May 22, 1985 between India and the MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) & (b). Soviet Union on economic, trade and Recommendations of the Committee scientific and t(chnical cooperation, the regarding the future pattern of ownership Soviet organisations will c.ury out intensive and management of Badarpur Thermal integrated exploration in North Cambay Power-Station· have been considered by and Cauvel y onshore basins, as per pro­ the Government and it has been decided gramnle given below: to maintain the status quo for the present.

(c) The present management contract North Cauvery of National Thermal Power Corporation Cambay is valid till March, 1988.

(d) No such proposal is under COfl- Seismic survey 3100 LKM 4000 LKM sideration at present. Dri11ing (e) Does not arise. (a) No. of Participation in oil explpratioD by foreign we1ls 38 37 countries (b) Meterage 81,500 1,22,000 349. SHRI E. A YY APU REDDY: Duration 1986-1992 1986-1995 SHRI V. SO.BHANADREES­ WARA RAO:

SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: (e) Besides exploration, the other areas that are being considered for foreign Will the Minister of PETROLEUM & participation, including transfer of tech­ NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: nology, are horizontal drilling; deep water production technology; production (a) whether foreign countries have of heavy oil; drilling in high pressure been recently aJlowed by Union Govern­ high temperature regimes; marginal field ment to take up oil exploration programme development; gas processing and utilisa­ in India; tion. 173 Written AnlWers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written A.nswera 174

Supply of gas for domestic consumption and Will the Minister' of PETROLEUM AND fertilizer manufacturing units NATURAL GAS be ple(lsed to state:

350. SHRI E. A YY APU REDDY: (a) the reasons for increasing the price Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND of petroleum, diesel oil and LPG cylinders; NA TURAL GAS be pleased to state : (b) the estimated amount of profit (a) the quantum of natural gas propos­ likely to accrue to the Oil & Natural Gas ed to be utilised for domestic consumption Commission on account of this hike in the during the year 1986 and the consequential prices; addition in the number of domestic connections proposed to be given in the (c) the actual difference in prices year 1986 ; and between the petroleum products in the international market and in the domestic (b) the quantum of natural gas which market; and is proposed to b~ diverted for fertilizer manufacture units during the year 1986 ? (d) the increase in the output of the ONGC in its products during the year THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 1985 as compared to its products in the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND year 1984? NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) About 50,000 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE cubic metres of natural gas per day is MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND being supplted fl)[ domestic use In Baroda. NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA Supply of natura] ga'S to dOlnestlc con­ SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) The increase in sumers in BharuLh and Ankleshwar towns the price of petroleum products was done • in Gujarat has recently been aproved, and with a view to contain the rapid growth the State Government h~s been asked to in the consumption of petroleum products ttike neces~ary follow-up action. and the need to raise resources for the Plan. (b) During the year 1986, a total quantIty of about 12.70 million cubic (b) No profit accrues to ONGC on metres of g~s pcr day h~s been committed • account of these hikes. for supply to various fertilizer units in the country. (c) A statement is attached.

(d) The crude production of ONGC Profits to O.N .G.C. On account of increase during 1984 was 25.16 MTs and during 1985 in price of petroleum and petroleum (provisional) 27.23 M Ts. Production of products LPG and Natural Gas for 1984 and 1985 was 228 and 301 thousand tonnes and 5189 351. SHRI E. A YY APU REDDY: and 6328 million cubic metres respectively. 175 Writte" Answers FEBRUARY 2S, 1986 Written .t41f11Hr. 176

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Losses suffered by ONGC due to fire accidents manifolds, control valves, appro­ in Oil II ells- priate blow-out preventors, 'Shear 352. SHRI E. A YY APU REDDY: rams for BOP stacks, etc.

PROF. RAM KRISHNA MORE: -All necessary safety measures are SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : being taken. Source for fire such as oil pits etc. are as a rule moved DR. B.L. SHAILESH : away from the well head. SHRI YASHWANTRAO GADAKH PATIL : -Necessary fire fighting equipment is being acquired. SHRI MAHENRA SINGH: SHRI UTTAM RATHOD : -A number of ONGC personnel have been trained in India and abroad Will the Minister of PETROLEUM including som',: with MIs Red Adair AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to to meet any eventualIty. The or­ state: ganisation is supplying safety nlanu­ als to the concerned personnel and (a) the losses suffered by Oil and carrying out periodic BOP and fire Natural Gas Commission on account of fighting t ria1s. fire accidents in the oil wells, particularly fire at Kadi exploratory oil wen in (c) Enquiries into the cause of fire are Gujarat; conducted and the sugg~stions made in the reports for safety measures are implemen­ (b) the steps taken by ONGC to pre­ ted. A D2partment~1 inquiry has been vent such fire accident~ ; ordered by ONGC to go into the cause of fire at Kadi well. (c) whether any enquiry has been con­ ducted into the cau~es of the fire, if so, the (d) Claims of the local public affected conclusion thereof ; by the fire at Kadi well No. 53 have been received and are being assessed in consul­ (d) the amount of compensation paid tation with the State Government authori­ to the local public affected by fire at Kadi ; ties. No cotnpen')ation has so far been paid to any of the claimants. (e) whether ONGC is equipped to put out such fires; and (e) and (f). ONGC is equipped to com­ bat normal fires. They are enhancing (f) if not, the reasons therefor? their capabilities further by acquiring more sophisticated eql'ipments. Help of other THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE agencies including foreigl1 experts is also MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND sought in extraordinary circumstances. NATURAL G:AS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) During the last three years 1983-84 to 1985-86 the loss due Cost of power projects taken up during to fire accidents are as follows: 7th rlan

(i) Sanand Well No. 65-Rs. 1, lakhs. 353. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT.. NAIK : Will the Minister of ENERGY be (ii) Kadi Wel1 (preliminary estimate)­ pleased to state the estimated cost of the Rs. 180.5 lakhs. power projects proposed to be undertaken in Seventh Five Year P.lan period? (b) Some of the steps that have been taken to prevent as well as to combat fire THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE accidents are : DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF MOHAMMED KHAN) : A capacity bene­ -Providing more dependable hardware fit of 22,245 MW is envisaged during the and equipment like choke and kill Seventh Plan frvffi the ongoing/sanctioned 181 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 182 schemes and schemes cleared by the Cent­ number of such pending cases which ral Electricity Authority. The total esti­ occured at different periods of time is 156. rna ted cost of projects which would yield benefits in the Seventh Plan is estimated to be of the order of Rs. 24,000 crores. [English] Part of this cost has already been incurred before the start of the Seventh Plan to Measures to prevent neo-netal deaths provide part benefits in the Sixth Plan and some of the costs may spill over to the 355. DR. T. KALPANA DEVI: Will Eighth Plan for benefits in the Eighth Plan the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to period. state:

(a) whether anti Rh immunoglobulins [Trans/ation] injt'ctions which prevent thousands of neo­ nat~l deaths are proposed to be made Complaints of embezzlement in Post Offices availabJe at cheaper rates like other life in Bihar circle saving drugs;

354. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state· (c) the alternative measur~s proposed to be t~ken by Government to prevent (a) whether it is a f,1ct that some peo­ neo-na t,' 1 d, alhs of Rh incompatibility? pk h,.vc made (. (lmf laints of embezzlement in the Branch Post Office, F~lzuJ!ah rUf, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE District Gopalg,~nj (BillaI) ; DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETROCHEMICALS (SHRI R.K. JAI­ (b) if so, the actIOn take.l "0 Lr agdi­ CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) to (c). Ante­ nst the guility officers; Rh immunoglobulins injections are not yet manufactured in the country. However, (c) th.e number of persons whose like many life saving drugs, these injec. accounts have been misapPlopriated in tions are al10wed to be imported liberally this post office and the amount so mis­ under OGL, without payn1ent of any im­ appropriated aJ1d the number of depositors port duty. whose money has bcen refunded ; and

(d) whether such cases of embezzle­ Targets for Oil exploration and production ment in many other rost offices, particu­ of crude by Oil India larly in Bihar Circle have also come to light and if so, the details in this regard? 356. DR. T. KALPANA DE VI : THE MINISTER OF ST ATE OF THE DR. B.L. SHAILESH : MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, Will the Minister of PETROLEUM Sir. AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) The Extra Departmental Branch Postmaster, the main C'ffendcr who com­ (8) whether the Oil India Limited is mitted Savings Bank fraud has be~n put off expected to achieve its targets for the duty. The case stands reported to police. current year in respect of drilling and crude output; (c) A total amount of Rs. 48,265/- in an savings bank (lCCollnt'\ h~ts been mis­ (b) if so, the broad outlines there of appropriated and money has been refunded and the C~lpitaJ outlay involved; to only one depositor so far. (c) if not, the extent of shortfalls and (d) Yes, Sir. In Bjh~r cirek the the reasons therefor; and 183 Written Answers FEBRUARY 2S, 1986 Written Answer, 184

(d) the targets fixed for t986-87 and NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA the measures proposed to be taken to SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) to (c). The ensure that these targets are achieved? broad outlines of the likely achievement vis-a-vis 'targets in respect of the physical THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE programmes of OIL for 1985-86 are" as MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND follows:

Target Anticipated Percentage Achievement shortfall

(i) Crude Production (MMT) 3.03 2.73 90

(ii) Drilling metreage (000 metres) 170.7 117.4 69

The shortfall in crude production was (5) Carrying out study of the new mainly ~ue to the ageing of Moran and developing field (Jorajan) to maxi­ N,aharkatia oil fields, lesser development mise production. drilling due to delay in delivery of rigs, unanticipated field problems at Jorajan, (6) Increasing well productivity by etc. The shortfall in drilling was rna inly fracturing pay-zones, and taking due to delay in delivery and conlmission­ care or sand-production which jng of indigenous rigs, deferment in drilling impedes regular production. programme in Mahanadi, Rajasthan and Andaman offshore. Use of fibre optics technology for pipeline The Plan outlay for 85-86 for OIL was Rs. 280 crores. The revised outlay is Rs. 357. DR. T. KALPNA DEVI : Will the 188 crores. Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU. RAL GAS be pleased to state: (d) The targets for 1986-87 (provisio­ nal) are as follows: (a) whether fibre optics technology for pipelines is being introduced by Hindustan (i) Crude production (MMT). 2.99 PetroleUlTI Corporation Limited as repor­ ted in 'The Times of India' of 4th (ii) Drilling metreage 180.9 February, 1986 ; (000 metres) (b) if so, the details thereof; The measures proposed to be taken to achieve the targets are : (c) whether this technology involves (l) Increased tempo of developmental imports of raw material and the foreign drilling/exploratory drilling. exchange ; and

(2) Acceleration of workover efforts. (d) if so, the details thereof?

(3) Meeting greater requirement of artificial lift by putting more THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE wel1s on gas lift by ir.stallation of MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & NATU­ compressors as welJ as by instal­ RAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHE­ lation of pumps. KHAR SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(4) Increased effort fer pressure (b) The system, as installed on the maintenance by water and gas Bombay-Pune pipeline consists of the injections. following: 18~ Written Answers l'HALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers

(1) Approx. 175 KMs of Fibre Optics NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA cable connecting main trans­ SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) The anticipated mission station at Trombay and production of crude oil in the country the receiving terminal at Loni. during ~935-86 is 29 9.+ million tonnes.

(2) Voice conversion and Transmis­ (b) The gross imports of crude oil are sion System at .. Trombay/Vashi/ likely to be around "15 million tonnes. Khopoli/Telegaon and Loni. (c) In view of fall in international oil (3) Six repair stati"ons along the route prices it is proposed to import crude oil for boosting the signals to the market related p,rices. required strength. Random censuS of bio-gas plants by Khadi Presently the system is providing voice and Village Industries ComjssioD communication between all the above points very satisfactorily. 359. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY :

(c) & (d). Yes, Sir. The entire~ system, PROF. RAMAKRISHNA including cable and conversion/transn1ission MORE: equipment, bas been imported from M/s. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : STC. U.K. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be The total expenditure in foreign ex­ pleased to state: change covering cost of the- system, spares, installation/commissioning and supervision (a) whether the random census of bio­ charges, is estimated arourrd £ 8,50,000. gas plants set up under the aegis of the Khadi and Village Industries Commission Production and import of crude oil has revealed that out of 13216 bio-gas plan ts ; 826 bio-gas plan ts were untrace­ 358. SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI : able in Bihar, Tamil Nadu and Maha­ SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- rashtra ; WARA RAO: SHRI B.V. DESAI: (b) whether final completion certifica­ tes in cases where subsidies have been SHRI UTTAM RATHOD : paid in Madhya Pradesh for bio-gas pro­ SHRI MADAN PANDEY: gramme, were not a \ ailable in all the cases; and SHRI BANW ARI LAL BAIR W A :

WilI the Minister of PETROLEUM (c) if so, the action proposed to be AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to taken against the guilty officials of Khadi state : and Village Industries Commission?

(a) the estimated production of crude THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE oil in India during 1985-86 ; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA- (b) the estimat&d gross quantity of CHALAM) : (a) During the census of Gas crude oil proposed to be imported ; and plants in fl urteen selected districts of lVlaharashtra, Tamilanadu and Bihar States, (c) whether in view of the dow nward out of 13,216 bio-gas plants taken up for trend in the international oil prices, the survey, 826 bio-gas plants were reported import of crude oil through term contract as nOD-existent. on country to country basis is proposed to be changed in favour of spot purchases? (b) 60% subsidy was paid for 588 plan ts in Madhya Pradesh which were not THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE. fully completed and commissioned. Action MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND has been taken to complete the incomplete i87 Written A.nswers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answers tss plants so that the beneficiaries who are (jj) setting up of a system of partici­ mainly tribal people are not put to any patory justice with defined j uris­ inconvenience. Out of these plants, 429 diction and powers in suitab Ie have so far been completed and put into areas and centres ; operation. Work for completing the re­ mainin g plants is in progress. (iii) establishing other tiers or systems within the jUdicial hierarchy to (c) The concerned erring officials viz. reduce the volume of work in the Devc]opment Officer and the Assistant Supreme Court and the' High Director working in Madhya Pradesh Courts. durir.g 1984-85 have been charge sheeted and the Deve]opnlen t Officer is under sus­ 2. The matters for which Tribunals (ex­ pension. Explanations of other concerned c1udiIlg services Tribunals) as envisaged technical staff have also reen called fof. in Part XIV-A of the Constitution need to be established expeditiously and [Translation] various aspects related to their esta­ blishn1ent and working; Judicial Reforms 3. The procedural laws with a view gene­ 360. SHRI KAU PRASAD PANDEY: rally to disposing of cases expeditiou­ sly, elimin~ting . unnecessary litiga tion SHRI T. BASHEER : and delays in hearing of cases and PROF. P.J. KURIEN : reform in procedures and procedural laws and particularly to devising pro­ Will the Minister of LA W AND JUS­ cedures appropriate to the forums en­ TICE be pleased to state: visaged in iteITIS 1 (i) and 1 (ii).

(a) whether Government have taken 4. The method of appointment to subor­ any steps during this year regarding judi­ dinate courts/su borGinate judiciary. cial reforms; and

(b) if so, the details thereof '! 6. The role of the legal profession in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE strengthen ing the system of adJninis­ MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE tration of justkc. (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ) : (a) and (b). The Government have entrusted to the 7. The desil ability of formulation of the Law Commission the study of Judicial norms which the Government and the system to introduce necessary reforms. public sector undertakings should The terms of reference are given in the follow in the settlement of disputes attached statement. including a review of the present 5ystem for conduct of litigation on be­ Statement half of the Government and such undertakings. Terms of Reference in the context of studying Judicial reforms by the law 8. The cost of 1itigat~n with a view to commission lessening the burden on the litigants.

1. The need for decentralisation of the . 9. Formation of an All India Judicial . system of administration of justice by- Service ; and

0) establishing, extending and 10. Such other matters as the Commission strengthening in rural areas the considers proper or necessary for the institution of Nyaya Panchayats purposes aforesaid or as may be refer­ or other mechanisms for resolving red to it from time to time by the disputes ; Government. Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) Written An.fWeJla

[English] (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. However, sinc.! this plan had not included all relevaut Losses suffered by I D.P.L. aspects, IDPL has decided to revsie it further. 361. SHRI MURLIDI-iAR MANE: SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT : Settjng up and upgradatjon of post offices Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be in Himachal Pradesh pleased to state: 362. SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI (a) wr.el her it is a fact that Indian Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS Drugs and Pharmaceuticals Limited, a be pleased to state : pl1blic sector enterprise, has been running into heavy losses; (,,) the number of post offices proposed to be set up and the existing post offices (b) if so, the extent of loss during the proposed to be upgraded in Himachal last three years; Pradesh during the year 1986-87 ;

(c) whether Government have recently received a revival plaJl from Indian Drugs (b) the names of places where these post offices are propcsed to be set up or and Phurmaceuticals Limited; and upgraded; and (d) if so, whether the revival plan is under consideration of the Government? (c) the number and names ot the places where po~t offices were actually THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE opened or upgraded during the last three DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND years in Himachal Prade~h ? PETROCHEMICALS (SHRI R.K. JAICHANDRA SINGH): (a) and (b). THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Yes, Sir. The net losses incurred by IDPL MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS during the last 3 years are as under: (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) & (b). There are no proposals at present Rs. in lakhs for setting up new post offices or for upgra­ dation of existing post offices in Himachal 1982.. 83 24.01 Pradesh during 1986-87. 1983-84 19.43 (c) The information is furnished in 1984-85 26.25 the attached statement.

Statement

Statement showing the number and names of post offices opened or upgraded in Himachal Pradesh during the last three years

Year Post Offices opened Post Offices upgraded

1 ') 3

1983-84 1. Biyara 1. Raghunathpura

2. Aghar 2. Saidaloo

3. KathibadoI 3. Ghaidur 191 W,Jtten Answul :FeBR.UARY 25, 1986 W,'t,.,. AIUW,'

1 2 3

1983-84 4. Prauri 4. Gulroor

S. Kotla S. Sanair

6. PanjoJa 6. Khol

7. Belt 7. Dhandhol

8". BaJag 8. Ran-gas

9. Upperli Baheli 9. Kh ani ara

10. Shirar 10. Chanaur

11. Ranol ]1. Oel

12. Ka-diwan 12. Bhalath

13. Sarahan 13. Jangal beri

14. Suket

IS. Mundu

16. Jardobha

17. Amman

18. Samoorkalan

19. Mansai

20. Bholi

21. Diggar

22. Khabli

23. Gaharajatrun

24. Kwareg

25. Bhigan

26. Kh~ri

27. SbaJw8r

28. Soja Written Answers PHALGUNA G, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answer, 194

1 2 3

1983-84 29. Anath

30. Nayagram

31. Ropa

32. Kikim

33. Mooring

34. MuJing

1984-85 1. Po1edakhala Nil

2. Palansikalan

3. Karel Punto

4. Mindal

5. Kolong

6. Karpat

1985-86 Nil Nil

Representation of SC I ST on the Board of these two organisations i.e. ONGC and Directors of ONGC & IOe I.O.C. '1

363. SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI: THE MINISTER OF· STATE OFTHE Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: NA TURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) No, Sir. (a) whether there is any member (b) The reservations stipulated belonging to Scheduled Castes or Scheduled for Tribes on the Board of Directors of Oil members of the SC/ST are not applicable to Board level appointments. and Natural Gas Commission and Indian Oil Corporation ; (c) The Directors of IOC and Members of ONGC are appointed by the Go\'ern­ (b) if not, the reasons therefor; ment with reference to their official posi­ tions a nd their specialized knowledge in (c) the criteria for nomination of their respective fields of relevance to these members on these Boards of Directors; organisations, in terms of the Articles of and Association of IOC and the provisions of Oil & Natural Gas Commission Act, 1959. (d) whether Government propose to include at least two members belonging to (d) In view of reply to parts (b) & {c} SC and ST on the Boards of Directors of above, question does Dot arise. Written Answers FEBRUAR.Y 25, 1986 Written Answers

Dereservation of Iadustrial Products for the 1985 was 6.3 per cent as against 7.8 per small scale sector cent during the corresponding period last year. The rate of ~ndustrial growth during 364. SHRI SHARAD DIGHE : Will the current financial year would have been the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to higher but for lower rate of grow.th in state: electricity & mining sectors and certain factors such as infrastructural constraints, (a) whether it is a fact that the under-utilisation of capacities, shortage of Narasaimham Panel on physical to financial power, etc. controls has recommended a gradual dereservation of industrial products for the The Government has been taking small-scale sector; and several steps to stimulate industrial produc­ tion through appropriate changes in (b) if so, Governments decision on the industrial licensing and import policies as recommendation? well as through monetary and fiscal measures and improvement in infrastnic­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ture. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ Central investment iif Kerala for develop­ CHALAM) : (a) Yes, Sir. ment of industries in public sector

(b) Reservation/Oereservation of items 366. SHRI T. BASHEER : Will the for manufacture in the small scale sector Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to is a continuing process. GOVtrnment of state : India has appointed a Reservation Committee under the lOR Act to make (a) the amount of Central investment recommendations in respect of items which in Kerala for the development of industries should be reserved for exclusive production in public ~ector during the Sixth Five Year in the small scale sector. Decisions are Plan; and taken on the basis of recomnlendations made by this Conlmj ttee. (b) the total outlay of Central invest­ ment for the development of industries in Deceleration of growth rate in industrial Kerala dlJring the Seventh Five Year production Plan?

365. SHRI SHARAD DIG HE: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of INDUSTRY be p]ellsed to DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL state: DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ CHALAM): (a) Presumably the Hon'ble (a) whether it is a fact that the data Memb~r is referring to investment of relating to the index numbers of industrial Centlal Public Enterprises in Kerala. The production which are available for the investment of the Central Public Enter­ current financial year, show a deceleration prises represented by Gross-Block etc. in of the growth rate ; Kerala as on 31.3.1980 and 31.3.1985 are as follows: (b) if so, the reasons therefcr; and Rs. in crores (c) the steps Government propose to take accelerate it ? As on 31.3.1980 422.84

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE As on 31.3.1985 831.22 DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (provisional) DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ CHALAM): (a) to (c). According to CSO (b) Centra] outlays are not decided on Index of ludustriaJ Production, the rate of a state-wise basis. The ceJ)tral outlays are iDdustrial growth during April-November, concerned with many infrastructural and 191 Written AnsWers PHALGUNA t), 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 198 social services sectors. A Iso the location sely affecting the postal employees now in of industrial projects is decided on techno­ service. economic feasibility and cannot be pre­ determined on a state.. wise basis. (d) Does not arise in view of replies to parts (a), (b) and (c) above.

Sale of postal covers and stamps etc. bJ Oil exploration in Kerala Private agencies 368. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the 367. SHRI T. BASH EER: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU­ Minister 'of COMMUNICATIONS be RAL GAS be pleased to state: pleased to state : (a) whether the Oil and Natural Gas (a) whether it is a fact that Government Commission has undertaken any off-shore have decided to hand over certa in works operation in Kerala; as sale of postal covers and stamps etc. to Private agencies ; (b) if so, the details thereof ; and

(b) if so, the reasons therefor? (c) the details of the future plans of oil exploration in Kerala '1 (c) whether Government are aware that such decision will adversely affect the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Extra Departmental Postmen and certain MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & NATU­ other categories who are now in service; RAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR and SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir.

(d) if so, what steps Government have (b) So far about 24500 line kms. of taken in this regard ? seismic work was conducted and three exploratory wells drilled. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (c) During the Seventh Five Year (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA): (a) A Plan, it is proposed to undertake seismic scheme bas been introduced under which work of about 29 thousand line kms. and licensed Postal agents are appointed on drill 12 wells. commission basis to sell postage stamps .-. t stationery, book registered letters and Waiting list of LPG connections stch mail to post office. ta~ 369. SHRI P.M. SA YEED : in (b) The objective of the scheme is to ~rovide certain basic postal facilities in SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: new areas where for reasons such as con­ straint of resources, ban on creation of WilJ the Minister of PETROLEUM posts, Don-availability of accommodation & NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: or prescribed norms not being satisfied, regular post offices are not established. (a) the number of applicants waiting for new Liquified Petroleum Gas connec­ (c) Licensed postal agents are not tions in the country ; required to deliver mail. This responsibility is discharged only by departmental and (b) the number of connections released extra departmental employees. Further, during the year 1985 ; baving regard to the fact that only certain )imited postal functions are entrusted to (c) the time likely to be taken to :!censed postal agencies and their number liquidate the waiting list; and 'at present is only about 0.3% of the number of post offices iu the country t (d) the impediments Government: are there is DO question of the scheme adver- facing in giving the connections? Wrltten Answets FEBRUARY 15, 1986 Written AMwers

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Structure of metropolitan Telephoae MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND CorporatioD NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA· SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) As on 3 I .12.85 371. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: approximately 37 lakh applications are SHRI BANW ARI LAL pending for allotment of LPG connections. PUROHIT: SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: (b) During January-December, 1985, SHRI SANAT KUMAR 16.13 lakbs LPG connections were released. MANDAL :

Will the Minister of COMMUNICA­ (c) and (d). Connections to persons TIONS be pleased to state : on the waiting list are being released in a phased manner under the annual customer (a) whether the proposed metropolitan enrolment programme (f the oil companies Telephone Corporation would be registed which is presently around 16 lakhs per as a company under the Indian Companies annum. Release of connections is deter­ Act; mined by augmentation in LPG availability as well as of infrastructure like bottling (b) if so, the details about its struc­ plants, transportation facilities and distri­ ture; butorships network. (c) whether the services of existing employees of the telecommunications system in Delhi and Bombay would be Foreign collaboration for manufacture of transferred to this Corporations ; and passenger car (d) whether the Corporation will run the telephone system on purely commercial 370. SHRI P.M. SA YEED : Will the consid erations ? Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Question No. 4325 on 17 December, 1985 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE regarding modernisation of car industry MINJSTR Y OF COMMUNICATIONS and creation of fresh capacity and state : (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA): (a) Yes, Sir.

(a) whether a decision has since beeri (b) (i) The Registered Offic~ taken regarding issuing of industrial licence Metropolitan Telephone C for foreign collaboration for the manufac­ poration Ltd. will be locat ture of passenger car; and in Delhi.

(ii) It will have a Board of (b) if so, the number of proposals Direc tors consisting of not approved by Government with their names less than 8 and not more and other details like capacity and capital than 12 Directors. The full iD\'olvement etc? time Directors will be 5 in number and the rest will be part time Directors some of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE whom could be non-officials. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL Initially the Secretary, DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ Department of Telecommuni· CHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. cations (DOT) is proposed to I be the ex-office part timp Chairman of the Corpora' (b) Does Dot arise. tion. 201 Written Annver.r PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers

(iii) The Corporation shall have Power shortages an authorised share capital of Rs. 800 crores. 373. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT : Will the Minister of ENEItGY (iv) The Corporation will have be pleased to state : authority to accept fixed deposits and resort to market (a) whether the delegates from the borrowings through deben­ neighbouring states have represented to tures etc. the Government to tide over the current acute power shortages; (c) Employees recruited by Bombay and Delhi Telephones will be transferred (b) if so, the outcome of the talks held to the Corporation to the extent posts are with the delegates; and available. (c) the steps taken by Government to (d) Commercial aspects will form one provide adequate power to the neighbour­ of the important considerations for the ing States? Corporation. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF Programme of ONGC for oil recovery in MOHAMMAD KHAN): (a) to (c). Seventh Plan Requests and representations from various States are received from time to time for 372. SHRI BANWARI LAL assistance from the neighbouring States PUROHIT: Will the Minister of PETRO­ to tide over power shortages. Assistance LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased is given to these States to the extent to state: possible depending upon the power supply position in the neighbouring States and (a) whether the Oil and Natural Gas the availability from the Central Statioas. Commission has recently enhanced oil recovery programme during the Seventh Plan period ; Price coRtrol on mediciaes (b) if so, the total expenditure likely 374. DR. G.S. RAJHANS : to be incurred on this programme; SHRI NARESH CHANDItA (c) whether, Government propose to CHATURVEDI: take any assistance from other countries in this regard ; and Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (d) if so, the details thereof? (a) whether a large number of Mem­ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE bers of Parliament have voiced serious MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND concern at the "Virtual looting" of con­ NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA sumers by the drug industry and called SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) ONGe has pro­ for a strict price control covering all grammes for introducing enhanced oil medicines; recovery techniques. During the 7th Plan period they have 9 such pilot projects to (b) whether Government have taken be implemented. any action on the representation of M.Ps. ; and (b) Rs. 52.30 erores. (c) if so, full details thereof? (c) & (d). Back up consultancy is being sought from MIs Keplinger Associates of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE USA and MIs Scientific Software Inter­ DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND comp, USA for two of the pilot projects, PETROCHEMICALS (SHRI R.K. 203 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written .t4118Wen 204

JAICHANDRA SINGH) : (a) A memo­ and evolving suitable programmes randum signed by 34 Members of of diversification. Parliament has been received which sets out their views on the Drug Policy and (vi) Improvement in marketing prac­ urges the Government to exercise strict tices so as to reach a pre-eminent price control on medicines. position.

(b) & (c). The various view points are (vii) Conducting training programmesj kept in mind in formulating the New Drug short refresher courses for im­ Policy. provement of management skills in the various Divisions of the Performance of public sector undertakings undertakings. in chemicals, drugs and pharmaceuticals (c) During Seventh plan period Public 375. DR. G.S. RAJHANS: Will the Sector Undertakings in the Chemical Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Sector wi)) continue to be a source of state: Chemicals/Chemical intermediates needed in dyestuffs, rubber chemicals, pharmaceu­ (a) whether a meeting was held with ticals and basic pesticides for National him to review the performance of public Malaria Eradication Programme. sector undertakings in the chemicals, drugs and pharmaceuticals industry ; The obj ective of public sector drug undertakings in the Seventh Plan is to (b) if ~o, details of the discussions continue nlaking available essential and held; and life saving bulk drugs and formulations and to reach break-even level of perfor­ (c) to what extent the working of the mance. By the terminal year of the public sector undertakings and pharma­ Seventh Five Year Plan (1989-90), it is ceutical industry will be improved during anticipated that indigenous production of the Seventh Five Year Plan period? bulk drugs would be Rs. 808.4 crores while that of drug formulations Rs. 377S THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE crores. DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND PETROCHEMICALS (SHRI R.K. JAI­ 'No industry' areas in States CHANDRA SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. 376. DR. G.S. RAJHANS! Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (b) Besides the review of the perfor­ state: mance of the pu blic sector undertakings the following points were emphasized : (a) whether Government have recently "asked the State Governments to identify 0) No laxity on safety and overal1 and comment on 'no-industry' areas in environmental protection. their respective States ;

(ii) Adoption of new management (b) if so, the time by which such com· techniques. ments have been asked for by Govern­ ment ; and (iii) Inventory control and the possi­ bility of raising additional resour­ (c) the purpose for asking conlments ces for the Seventh Fi ve Y car in this rC'gard ? Plan. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (iv) Technol<>gy upgradation and DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE· rationalization· of product-mix. LOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. (v) Identifying short-term and long. ~erm ,oals for the undertakings (b) & (c). Do Qot arise, 205 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Wrillen Answer,

[Translation] (c) whether it is a fact that Coal Limi- ted and other public sector coal under- Nationalisation of coal companies takings bdve suffered loss even after in­ creasing the prices of coal and if so, the 377 ~ SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: total loss suffered by them so far since Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased the nationalisation thereof? to state: THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHR} (a) the date on which coal companies VASA NT SATHE) : (a) & (b). Coal mines were nationalised and the coal prices pre­ were nationalised in two phases. Coking vailing at that time as also at present and coal mines Were nationalised with effect the percentage by which these have in­ from 1.5.1972 and other coal mines were creased so far ; nationalised w e.r. 1.5.1973. At the time of nationalisation the average pit-head (b) the prices at whiLh coal was avail­ price of coal was Rs. 37.50 per tonne. able to consumers in the opt:.n market at Since nationaJisatibn, pit-head prices of the time of nationalisation and the prices coal have been revised seven times as at which it is available at present; and under:

Date of Average pit·head % increase over Pit-head priee

].4.1974 47.50 50.50 86.00

1.7.1975 64.92 67.65 36.67 33.96 86.00 Nil

17.7.1979 101 18 99.92 55.85 47.70 110.00 27.90 . 14.2 1981 128.02 136.85 26.52 36.96 15000 36.36

27.5 1982 145.90 154.75 13.96 13.08 175.00 1667

8.1.1984 183.00 192.00 25.43 24.07 175.00 Nil

9.1.1986 210.00 219.00 14.75 14.06 175.00 Nil

The price of soft coke, a common (c) Coal India Limited and its subsidia­ man's fuel, has not been increased after ries have heen suffering Josses till 1980-81. 27.5.1982. However, its price for indus­ In 1981-82. Coal India Limited as a whole trial use has been fixed at Rs. 300.00 per earned a profit of Rs. 34.20 crores. The tonne w.e.f. 9.1.1986. losses suffered by COlI India Limited as a whole during 1982-83, 1983-84 and 1984-8S Retail prices of soft coke are fixed by have been Rs. 5.34 crores, Rs. 242 68 the State Governments/Union Territories crores and Rs. 78.03 crores respectively. and vary from State to State. The cumulative loss/profit of Coal India 207 Written Answer, FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answer.

Limitod and its subsidiaries as on 31.3.1985 manufactured with collaboration of Japan; is indicate.d below : (b) whether spare parts of Maniti car are not available in India ; (-)=loss (+ )=profit (Rs. in crores) Name of the Com- Cumulative loss/ (c) if so, the reasons thereof; and pany/ Division profit upto 31.3.1985 (d) the steps being taken to make available spare parts of Maruti car? CIL/NEC (-) 105.81 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ECL (-) 649.61 DEPARTMENT OF _INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ BCCL (-) 628.79 CHALAM) : (a) Yes, Sir.

CCL (+) 172.38 (b) No, Sir.

WCL (-) 5.49 (c) & (d). Do not arise.

CEMPDIL (+) 1.47 Telephone facilities in the villages of ----- Haryana Total (-) 1215.86 ----- 380. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK : Will the Minister of COMMU­ (English] NICATIONS be pleased to state:

Introduction of tape recording of orders of (a) the names and number of villages Supreme Court and High Courts in H aryana which are likely to provided with telephone facilities during the year 378. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY : 1986-87 ; and Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to state : (b) the financial implication thereof?

(a) whether the Supreme Court has THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE introduced tape recording .of the orders MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS pronounced by the judges to ensure their (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA): (a) 72 accuracy; and villages are proposed to be provided with telephone facilities during the year 1986- (b) if so, whether a similar system is 87. The names are given in the attached proposed to be introduced in the various statenlent. High Courts and District Courts ? (b) The expenditure is estimated at THE MINISTER OF STA TE IN THE about Rupees Seventy Two Lakhs (72 , MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE lakhs). (SHill H. R. BHARDWAJ): (a) & (b). No, Sir. Statement

AftliJabillty of spare parts of Maruti car S1. N arne of Village No. * ,379. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: SHR.I MANIK REDDY: 1 2

WiJl the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state ; 1. Karnpur

(a) whether M~ruti <;ar ~~ bein, 2. SafilpQ~ 209 PHALGUNA 6. !907 (SAKA) 211

1 2 1 2

3. Ajijpur DISTRICT

4. Marwah Khurd 26. Kalkkho S. Fatehgar h MOHINDERAGARH DISTRICT 6. Farraukhpur 27. Jhangroli 7. Khanpur DISTRICT 8. Saran 28. Chaharwala 9. lai Dharn 29. Nathu Sari Kalan 10. Dudhar 30. Ottu DISTRICT 31. Surtia 11. Armali 32. Kaluna AMBALA DISTRICf 33. 12. Mandoli 34 Saketa Khere

BHIWANI DISTRICTS 35. Khuyan Malkhana

13. Garena 36. Masitan

14. Lilas SONEPET DISTRICT 15. Phura Khurd 37. Kohla 16. Masani 38. Moi 17. Mandboli 39. Jasrana IS. 40. Bhogipur 19. Khere 41. Chulkana 20. Karanpura 42. Nahari 21. Issarwal DISTRICT 22. Saral

23. Leghabanan 43. Dhankot

24. Bagena 44. Nathupur

~~. SJterah 4~f Mo]ben~ 211 Written AlfSWers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written ~An8Werl 212

1 2 1 2

46. Mohammadpur Ahir 67. Khera

47. Jaurasi 68. Kabri

48. Indri DISTRICT

69. Busana MOHINDERGARH DISTRICT 70. Morkheri 49. Patikana HISSAR DISTRICT SO. Goad

51. Nangal Kalia 71. Rawat Khcra

S2. Zainabad 72. Mundana

53. Lisan U pgradation sub-post offices in Haryana

54. Qutabpurmo 1a 381. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: Will the Minister of COMMU· NICATIONS be pleased to state : DISTRICT

SSe Sihol (a) the names and number of sub-post offices which are Jikely to be upgraded in 56. Janauli Haryana during the current year; and

57. Pingor (b) by what time these will be up­ graded? 58. Manpur THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 59. Utawar MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA): (a) No 60. AHmao sub-post office is likely to be upgraded in Haryana during 1985-86. HND DISTRICT (b) The question does not arise in view of reply to part 'a' above. 61. Kbera Khemwati

62. Kbarawal Saving in foreign exchange due to decHoe in oil prices in intema tional market 63. Khera Karamji 382. PROF. P.l. KURIEN: Will the 64. Roopgarh Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU­ RAL GAS be pleased to state:

KARNAL DISTRICT (a) whether there has been a ~harp decline in the oil prices in the interna­ 65. Garhi Jattan tional market;

66. Kahanpur (b) if so, the details thereof; 213 Written Aruwer, PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer, 214

(c) whether India bas made spot pur­ been promoting steps for conservation of chases of oil at these reduced rates; and petroleum products, such as :

(d) if so, the amount of foreign v ex_ (i) by carrying out model depot pro­ change saved in these transactions? jects in several State Road Trans­ port Undertakings, leading to an THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE estimated saving of 6 to 11% in MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND diesel consumption. NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. (ii) instituting trophies for State Road Transport Undertakings in respect (b) The spot market prices of certain of improvement in kilometers per grades of crude ranged from $ 19 litre performance. to $ 22/bbl during January, 1986. (iii) organising driving training pro­ (c) and (d). Imports to be effected grammes in State Road Transport during January-March, 1986 are estimated Undertakings, Indian Oil Corpora­ to cost less by Rs. 135 crores relating to tion, Indian Airlines, Oil India average cost for April-December, 1985. Limited, etc.

Study conducted by Energy Advisory Board Measures to reduce consumption of petroleum on energy crisis products 384. SHRI B. V. DESAI: Will the 383. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Minister of PETROLEUM & NATU­ RAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that the country is faced with a prospect of serious energy (a) whether the consumption of crisis ; petroleum products has increased during 1985 as compared to the previous year ; (b) if so, whether a study was conduc­ ted by the Energy Advisory Board in (b) if so, the details thereof; which it was stated that energy shortages are likely to continue for quite SODle time (c) the specific measures taken to in India; reduce the consumption of petrol and its products in the Government sector; the (c) if so, the main reasons put forth details thereof; and by them in this regard ; and

(d) the details regarding the achieve­ (d) the steps being taken to meet the ment in this respect ? serious energy crisis?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF NATURAL GAS ~HRI CHANDRA MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) &. (b). In the SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. light of the projections of the Advisory Board on Energy on the Energy Demand (b) The consumption of petroleum and Supply position in the year 2004 .. 05, products during the year 1985 was about it has been indicated that energy shortages 40.1 milJion tonnes as against 37.8 million could become acute with increased tonnes in 1984. commercial energy consumption and the passage of time. (c) & (d). Apart from instructions issued by Government for economy in (c) The report has indicated that there non-plan expenditure, the Petroleum is likely to be a deficit in the availability Conserv~tion Rese4rch A$~ociatioQ bas of oil for meetiDf the domestic d~lUaD~ 215 Written Answers FEBR.UARY 2S, 1986 W,ltten Answers 216 takin, into account the present supply­ Ameniment to Indian Compaaies Alt demand position. 386. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN SINHA: (d) The present approach is to reduce dependence on oil to the maximum extent DR. B.L. SHAILESH : possible, increasingly use indigenously available energy resources and promote Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be efficient utilisation of various energy pleased to state : sources. (a) whether Government propose to amend the Indian Companies Act to raise State funding of elections or abolish the ceilings on managerial remuneration ; 385. SHRI B.V. DESAI: (b) if so, the detai1s thereof; and SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : SHRI M.V. CHANDRASHE­ (c) whether any change in the Act is KARA MURTHY: also being considered to ensure that benami share purchases are not alJowed SHRI N. DENNIS: to be registered '?

WiU the Minister of LA WAND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE JUSTICE be pleased to state: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ CHALAM): (a) & (b). Government is (a) whether Government are consider­ considering certain amendments to the ing a proposal for funding the elections; COlnpanies Act. Proposals in this behalf have not yet been finalised. (b) if so, whether suggestions from the various political parties have been received (c) Provisions relating to disclosure of by Government in this connection ; beneficial interest in shares already exist in the Companies Act. No proposal for (c) if so, the details thereof; and amendment in this regard is presently under consi deration. (d) when a final decision is likely to Deficit in power supply in eastern region be taken in this regard ? 387. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE SINHA: Will the Minister of ENERGY MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to state : (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) to (d). There is no proposal under consideration (a) whether there would be continued at present for State funding of elections. deficit in power suppJy in the eastern Attention is invited to the reply given to region during this summer; Starred Question No. 295 dt. 2.4.1985. The Election Commission has only suggested (b) jf so, details thereof; and that tbe election expenditure may be shared pardy in kind through supply of (c) how much of the deficit in power free copies of rolls, free mailing of elec­ supply as compared to demand, is due to tion literature, etc. The Commission has poor performance of existing plants and reiterated this view recently and suggested how much is due to delays in completing that in the existing circumstances public planned power stations '? financing of elections may be only in kind. In making this suggestion, the Ejection THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Commission had taken note of the views DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF of v~jous political parties! MOHAMMAD KHAN): (a) & (b). Tbe i11 Written A."nvers pttAtGUNA 6, t907 (SAKA) Written An.rwers power shortage in the Eastern Region (b) and (c). The term 'Upgradation' during March, 1986 is expected to be means raising the status of a post office about 13 per cent. The assessment made from an extra departmental to a depart­ by the Central Electricity Authority indi­ mental post office or from a departmental cates that Eastern Region will contInue to sub post office to head post office. Such face power shortage during the coming llpgradatlons are sanctioned taking into summer months. Detailed power supply account workload, the anticipated loss and position for the period beyond March, other factors. It is not that telegraph 1986 is, however, being worked out. facilities are necessarily provided at the time of upgradation. There are separate (c) The power shortage in the Eastern norms for provision of telepgraph facilities Region is mainly due to (i) inadequate in post offices which are independent of installed generating capacity; (ii) Com­ Upgl adation. paratively unsatisfactory performance of thermal power stations; and (iii) erratic and insufficient rainfa]) conditions result­ Developmen t of telecommunication system ing in low water levels in hydel reservoirs. in Haryana However, it is not practicable to assess power shortage separately for each reasoo. 389. SHRI CHIRANJI LAL SHARMA: Will the Minister of Upgradation of post offices in Haryana COMMUNICA TIONS be pleased to state : 388. SHRJ CHIRANJI LAL SHARMA : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to (a) the proposals for the development of telecommunication system in Haryana state : for the next year and during Seventh Five (a) the number of post offices upgrad­ Year Plan period ; and ed in Haryana last year; (b) the total outlay for the same 1 (b) whether it is a fact that telegraph facilities are not available in nlany of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE tho~e pest offices In~pite of upgraddtion; MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS and (SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA) : (a) The information is given in the attached state­ (c) if so, the steps being tdken in this ment. regard?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) (i) The outlay for J986-87 is MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Rs. 8.2 crores. (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) No post office was upgraded in Haryana during (ii) The outlay for 7th Plan is the year 1985. under fin ali sa tion.

Statement

Proposals for development of communication system in Haryana for 1986-87

Schemes proposed to be commissioned subject to availability of equipment are:

1. (a) Sirsa 1000 lines extension-containerised eJectronic exchanges.

(b) Gurgaon 1000 lines extension- -do-

(c) Rohtak 300 yne. expaasioD-MAX-I exchange 21~ JJi,lttnt Answets FE B1tttAIt Y 25, 1986 W,'tteh AnNe';

(d) Hissar -do-

(e) -do-

(f) 100 lines expansion-MAX-ll exchange

(g) Sonepat -do-

(b) -do-

(i) -do-

(j) lind -do-

(k) 120 lines expansion-CPM exchange

(I) Gobana -do-

(m) -do-

2. 8 new MAX-III exchanges proposed to be opened.

3. LDPTS-72 proposed to be opened.

4. MARR System proposed at : (1) Kaithal with 23 stations

(2) Kurushetra with 6 stations

5. (1) Replacement of 20-lines cabinet type telex exchange by 50 lines Main at .

(2) Extension of Yamunanagar telex exchange by 20 lines.

(3) Extension of Ambala telex exchange by 20 lines.

6. Ca"ier Systems Proposed :

1. Rohtak- HI system

2. lakhal-Tohana-GI

3. Kaithal-Nirwana-G 1

4. -Kai thal-G 1

s. Hissar-Barwala-G 1

6. Ambala-Kaithal-H2

7. Karnal-Indri-G 1

8. Jind-Uchana-Gl

9. Kalanwali-Sirsa-G 1

7. Commissioning of Ambala-Chandigarh-Shimla wide baud microwave system. b1 JIIrltlen .AnsWers PHALGUNA 6, 1901 (SAtcA) Written AlIIWn,

8. Development proposals for 7th Plan :

Detailed plans for development of telecommunication system in Haryana are under finalisation. However, some of the plans proposed are rs under:

(a) Replacement by 6000-lines E-I0B at Gurgaon.

(b) National Subscriber's dialling proposed for Jind, Kurushetra and Narnaul.

(c) Expansion of :

(i) Hissar, Rohtak exchanges by IS00-lines each.

(ii) Yamunanagar exchange by 2100 Jines.

(d) Development of 930 coaxial kilometer systems.

(e) (i) Replacement of Delhi-Sonepat, Delhi-Gurgaon and Delhi-Rewari existing microwave system by digital microwave.

(ij) Linking of AmbaJa to Ludhiana by wide band microwave system.

Location and capacity of new cement plants location?

390. SHRI CHIRANJI LAL THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHARMA: WIll the Minister of DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL INDUSTRY be plea~ed to state: DEVELOPMENT (SHRf M. ARUNA­ CHALAM): (a) & (b). The details of new (a) the details of the new cement cement factories, both large as well as Mini factories set up dUflng 1986 with their Cement Plants, which were set up in 1985 location and capacity ; and are given in the statement-I. The details of units likely to go into production in (b) the cement plants to be set up 1986 are given in the statement-II during 1986 with theIr capacity and attached.

StatemeDt-1

List of /lew cement factories set up during 1985

S1. Name of the Unit Location of the Capacity No. factory (Tonnes)

1 2 3 4

1. MIs. Shriram Cement Ltd., Dt. Banaskanta 66,000 Gujarat 2. Kalinga Cement Ltd., Dt. Sundergarh 29,700 . Orissa 3..- Hemadri Cements Ltd., Dt. Krishna 66,000 - A.P. 4. Kalyan Sundram Cement Dt. Banaswara 66,000 Industries. Rajasthan 1 2 3 4

5. Swadeshi Cement Ltd. Dt.laipur 66,000 Rajasthan 6. Pancbmahal Cement Co. Dt. Panchmahal 66,000 Ltd., Gujarat 7. Shree Cement Ltd. Beawar 6,00,000 Rajasthan 8. Sagar Cements Ltd., Dt. Nalgonda 66,000 (A.P.) 9. Vikram Cement Dt. Mandsaur 5,00,000 (M.P.) 10. Texmaco Ltd. Dt. Cuddapab 5,00,000 (A.P.) 11. Dhar Cement Ltd., Dt. Dhar 66,000 (M.P.) 12. Karnataka Cement Ltd. Dt. Gulbarga 66,000 (Karnataka) 13. Radha Kishan Cements Dt. Banaskanta 66,000 (Gujarat) 14. Alagappa Cements Dt. Trichy 36,000 (T.N.) 15. Venus Cements Ltd., Dt. Debra Dun 14,400 (U.P.)

16. Vasavdatta Cement Dt. Gulbarga 5,00,000 Karnataka 17. Janlagbu Cement Dt. Sikar 33,000 Udyog Ltd., Rajasthan 18. Kamdar Cement Ltd. Dt. Junagarh 66,000 Gujarat 19. Gujarat Himalaya Dt. Junagarh 50,000 Cements Ltd., Gujarat 20. Tan-India Wattle Dt. Salem 33,000 Extracts Co. Ltd., T.N. 21. Suvidha Cements Dt. Dhar 33,000 (M.P.) 22. Karnataka Minerals & Mfg. Dt. Chitradurga 66,000 Co. Ltd., (Karnataka) 23. Patel & Lakka Cement Dt. Kutch 10,800 (Gujarat) 24. Ajmera Cements (P) Ltd. Dt. Junagarh 30,000 (Gujarat) l»HALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAkA) Written Answer8 226

StatemeDt~U

Additional cement capacity likely to fructify during the year 1986

SI. Name of the Unit Loca tion of the Capacity No. factory (Tonnes)

1. Raymond Cement Dt. Bilaspur 5,00,000 (M.P.)

2. Birla Cement Works Dt. Chittorgarh ~,OO,OOO (Rajasthan)

3. Gujarat Amhuja Cement Dt. Amreli 7,00,000 (Gujarat)

4. Manikg rh Cement Dt. Chandrapur 10,00,000 (Maharashtra)

S. Priyadarshini Ccnlents Dt. Nalgonda 4,00,000 (A.P.)

6. Vikram Cement Dt. Mandsa u r 5,00,000 (M.P.)

7. C.C.I. Dt. Rangareddy 10,00,000 (A.P.)

8. Modi Cement Dt. Bilaspur 9,00,000 (M.P.)

9. Raasi Cement l Dt. Nalgonda 8,00,000 (A.P.)

10. Hari Ganga Cement Dt. Chandrapur 66,000 (Maharashtra)

11. Abhishekh Cement Dt. Damoh 66,000 (M.P.)

12. Bharat Food India Ltd. Dt. Siddhi 66,000 (M.P.)

ComaeetfDg district headquarters of Haryana (b) whether there is any proposal to by S.T.D. systl'm connect all the district headquarters of Haryana by STD system during the Seventh 391. SHRI CHIRANJI LAL Five Year Plan period; and SHARMA : Wi)) the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) if so, the details thereof?

Jind, Kurukshetra and Narnaul (Mahender- garh) the three District Headquarters of Sector lnd ustrial licences Haryana (out of 12) have not been connec- issued ted with STO in the national network, CJt present. (1) Central Govern- 3 (including 2 carry- ment Undertak- on-Business Heen- (b) Yes, Sir. ings ces)

(2) State Public Sec­ 3 (c) lind is an automatic exchange of tor Undertakings MAX-II type while Kurukshetra and (inc. SIDe) Narnaul are manual type exchanges. These have been planned to be provided with (3) Private Under­ 69 (including 53 STD by linking lind and Kurukshetra with takings Carry-on -Business Ambala Trunk Auton1atic Exchange and licences) Narnaul with New Delhi Trunk Automatic Exchange after autornatisation of manual exchanges and providipg reliable trallsmi­ Total 75 (including S5 ssion medium. Carry-on-Business licences) [Translation]

An industrial licence is issued with an Setting up of Big Industries in Bihar initial validity period of 2 years within which the entrepreneur is expected to commence production. However, further 392. PROF. CHANDRA BHANU extension beyond the initial validity period DEVI : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY of 2 years can also be granted by the be pleased to state: administrative Ministries concerned on sufficient justification. It generally takes about 3 to 4 years for an industrial project (a) whether it is a fact that the Union to fructify. Actual gestation period, how­ Government have not set up any big in­ ever, varies fronl project to project. dustry in Bihar during the last three years ; [English]

(b) whether it is also a fact that no Construction of building for ImpbaJ Bench big industry has been set up there in the of Gaubati High Court private sector as well; and 393. SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: Wi]] the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be (c) if so, the reasors thereof? p)eGsed to state :

(a) whether there is any progress in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the construction of a building to house DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL the IrnphaJ Bench of the Gauhati lligh DEVELOPMENT tSHRI M. ARUNA­ Court; CHALAM) : (a) to (c). No, Sir. Under the pro\'isicDs of Ir.dustries (Development (b) if so, the details thereof; and & Regulation) Act, a teta) No. of 75 Industrial licences were granted for Bihar (c) if not, the reasons thereof? during the years 1983 to 1985. Sector-wise break up of these industrial licences is as THE MINISTER OF STATE IN bolow:- THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND Written Answers PHALGuNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 230

JUSTICE (SHRI H. R. BHARDW Al) : (c) &. (d). The views of the iENS (a) to (c). _ The information received from on the price of indigenous newsprint have the Registrar of Gauhati High Court been taken into account by BICP while states that regarding construction of High finalising their recommendations. Court building for the ImphaI Bench, has issued nece­ Action taken against setting up L. P. G. ssary notice under' Land Acquisition Act filling plants Dear residential areas and the matter is under process. It is expected that acquisition of Land may be 395. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will completed so on. the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Rise in price of indigenous newsprint (a) whether an L.P.G. filling plant 394. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Will was set up two years back in the vicinity the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to of residential colonies in Jodhpur; state : (b) whether it is a fact that at the (a) whether it is a fact that the price time of construction, attention of Govern­ of indigenous newsprint has been raised by ment was drawn against setting up of the about Rs. 1000/- and Rs. 1600/- per tonne plant near residential area; with effect from Deceluber 31, 1985 ; (c) if so, the details thereof; and (b) if so, the details thereof and reasons therefor ; (d) the action taken in the light of protest from the residents and in confor­ (c) whether h is a fact that the news­ mity with the outlook that L.P.G. plants paper industry was not consulted in this should not be put up near residential regard; and areas?

(d) if so, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) to (d). Hindustan DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ Petroleum Corporation has commissioned CHALAM): (a) & (b). Based on a a LPG bottling plant at Jodbpur in Octo­ study made by the Bureau of Industrial ber, 1984. The plant has been set up in Costs and Prices, the Central Government an industrial area specifically earmarked have permitted the indigenous newsprint by local authorities for petroleum instal­ manufacturers to raise their selling prites lations including LPG. Before commis­ to the extent indicated below w.e.r. sioning the plant, the Corporation obtain­ 31.12.1985 : ed requisite c1earances under the relevant statutes and regulations, including licence Name of the Increase permitted from the Chief Controller of Explosives. manufacture:r: Work on the remaining facilities at the plant has been stopped following an order (1) National News­ Rs 1860 per tonne on 31 7.85 by the Munsif Magistrate, print & Paper Jodhpur for maintaining the status quo. Mills (2) Mysore Paper Rs. 960 " , , Low cost economy in industries due to Mills rise in coal pri~e (3) Hindustan News- Rs. 960 " " print Ltd. 396. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA (4) Tamil Nadu Rs. 9~O " " REDDY: Wil1 the Minister of ENERGY Newsprint & be pleased to state : Paper Limited. (a) whether it is a fact that due to 231 Written A.nsWers FEllaUAl{Y 25, 1986 Written Answers the rise in price of coal industries cannot (b) & (c). It is planned to provide achieve a low cost eCOI:omy ; around 0.783 lakh Direct Exchange Lines and around 200 numbers of long distance (b) whether this will result in pushing public telephones in Andhra Pradesh during up the cost of industrial goods; and the 7th Plan period.

(c) whether the r(sultant inflation Relaxation granted in favour of companies trend will affect the economy of the covered by MRTP and FERA Acts country adversely? 398. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI REDDY: VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). While SHRI SURESH KURUP ~ considering the revision of pric;:s of coa 1, its impact 011 various consuming sectors as Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be well as on the economy of the country, as pleased to state: a whole, was kept in view. (a) 'Whether it is a fact that after The imp~ct of the revision of COJI prices on the 3 m(1jor ccnsllming [ectors librralisation of Industrial Licencing Policy, Government have granted a spate of namely Power, Steel and Railways h2S relaxations in favour of companies covered been estimated about 3~o, 2 83~{, and O.9~~ respectively on their cost of production/ by Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices Act (MR TP) and Foreign Ex­ operations in a full ye~.r and the impact change Regulation Act (FERA) ; on the economy as a whole is estimated dt about 0.6%. ,(b) if so, what are those relaxations;

Telecommunication plans during Seventh (c) whether it is also a fact that Plan period exemption from licensing in as many as 22 industries and their export obligation 397. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA has been drastically reduced by rationa­ REDDY: Will the Minister of COM­ lisation of licensing policy ; and MUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (d) whether this has an adverse (a) wtJether the Department of Tele­ effect on the Indian economy ? communications have plans to add about 11 lakh direct telephor:e exc.hang~ lines THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and abotlt 9('00 kilo-metre 10Jlg di~tance DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL public telephones during the Seventh Plan DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ period; CHALA M): (a) to (c). In the context of the need to maximise production, (b) what is the quota allotted to adoption of modern technology involving Andhra Pradesh ; and substantidI investments and increased capa­ city utilisation, Government had libcralised (c) how wany telephone eXlhange the I ndustrial Licensing Policy and proce­ lines and how many kIlo-metre Jong dis­ dure recently. The rdaxations aHowed tance pllblic tdcphonl s will be added in in I espect of MRTP/FERA companies Andhra Prade5lh durir g Seventh Plan? include :-

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (i) Linli t of fixed assets for quali­ THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICA­ fication as MRTP Company has TIONS \SHRI RAM NIW AS MIRDHA) : been raised from Rs. 20 crore to (a) Yes, Sir. During the 7th Ph:n period Rs. 100 crore. tl:e Department of Telecommunications pJans to add about 11 lakh direct Tele­ (it) The proposals for setting up 27 phone Exchange lines and about 9,000 long specified industries by MRTP 4istanc.e public Telephones. Companies have been exempted 233 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Writ tell Answers 214

from Sections 21 and 22 of the (c) whether power capac;ty is proposed MRTP Act, subject to certain to be set up with the Soviet assistance conditions. during the Seventh Plnn ; and

(iii) The list of industries for partici­ (d) if so, the details thereof? pation, among others, by MRTP/ FERA Companies, called Appen­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE dix-I industries, has been DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF revised. MOHAMMAD KHAN) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) In the meeting, the Working Group (iv) The conditions regarding exports reviewed the progress made in the imple­ upto 50~1o and 30% for setting up n1entation of the programme of coopera­ Non-Appendix - I industries by tion between tile two countries in the field MRTPjFERA Companies in cen­ of power which largely covered the follow­ trally d(c], red category 'B~ & 'C~ ing ; districts and category' A' districts have been reduced to 25% and nil, respectively. (i) Construction of Vindhyachal Tbtrmal Power Station and asso­ ciated transmission lines; (v) 23 industries out of 27 industries mentioned in (ii) above have been (ii) Construction of Kahalgaon Ther­ exempted frem industrial licensing mal Power Station; under the Industries (Develop­

ment and R, gl!l~ tion) Act, 1951 (i ~i) l\.lain tenance and repair of power even in resp,-ct of proposals from equipment of Soviet design in­ MRTP Companies, provided th~t stalled at Power Stations in India; the industrial undertaking is locat­ and ed in any of the centrdly declared backward areas. However, in (iv) Training of Indian specialistS' in regard to FERA Companies, the USSR in the field of Hydro Power existing procedure for obtaining and Power Systems. clearance under FERA will continue. The possibilities of Soviet cooperation for new th. rmal and hydro projects W~re Copies of Press Notes No. 32 also considered at the meeting. & 3S (1985 Series) and No. 6 (1986 Serifs) issued in this reg:Hd (c) & (d). The Vindhyachal Therrtl1l . have been supplied to the Parlia­ Power Station (6 X 210 MW), under execu­ ment Library. tion with the Soviet assistance, is targetted to be commissioned in the Seventh Plan (d) No, Sir. period. Kahalgaon Thermal Project (4 X 210 MW) will also be taken up with Soviet assistance during the Seventh Plan. Meeting of Indo-Soviet Working Group on Power Development of Raj Mabal Coal Mines II itb Canadian Assistance 400. SHRI YASHWANTRAO GADAKH PATIL : Will the Minister of 401. SHRI Y ASHW ANTRAO ENERG Y be pleased to stJte : GADAKH PATIL: Wil1 the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (a) whether a meetjng of the Indo­ Soviet Working Group on Power was held (a) whether visiting Can ldian team has in December, 1985 ; recently offered assistance in developnlent of the Raj Mahal Coal Mines linked with (b) if so, the outconlC of the discus­ the Farakka and Kalgaon Super Thermal sion ; Stations; 235 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answers 236

(b) if so, the details thereof; and and Rokhia in Tripura. The total geologi­ cal reserves of gas in Tripura as 011 1-1-85 (c) the decision taken by Government is about 5738 million cubic metres. The thereon 7 area is considered to be prospective for hydrocarbon discoveries. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE) : (a) Yes, Sir. An (c) The finds at Gojalia and Rokhia offer has been received from MIs Met are still in the assessment stage. The gas Chern Canada for the development of the from Baramura is proposed to be supplied Raj Mahal OCP to a capacity of 10 mty to Tripura 'State Electricity Board. by 1991 on a performance guarantee basis. Donations received by political parties and (b) It is a package offer comprising social and religious organisations tbe following : 403. SHRI ANAND SINGH: Will (i) Consultancey Services the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to state: (ii) Technical Services

(iii) Purchase of equipment with (a) whether Government have taken any Canadian credit. A formal propo­ decision to ensure that all political par­ sal for Canadian aid has been ties and social and religious organisations received. are made accountable for the money re­ ceived by them as donations and otherwise (iv) Supply and installation of select­ from sources within the country and ed computer Soft-Ware in the abroad ; areas of material management, preventive maintenance and auto­ (b) if so, the details thereof; and matic truck despatching. (c) the steps t,)ken or proposed to be (v) Total Mine Management by Elec­ taken in pursuance thereof? tronification. THE MJNISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) The proposal is under examination. MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) to (c). Oil and gas resenes in Tripura The moneys received by political parties, social and religious organisations from 402. SHRI ANAND SINGH: Will abroad are governed by the provisions of the Minister of PETROLEUM AND the Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Act, NATURAL GAS be p1eased to state : 1976 which is admini'ltered by the Minis­ try of HOlne Affairs. (a) whether the latest finds of oil and gas reserves in Tripura hold good pros­ There does not appear to be any pects of oil and gas reserves in the region; single agency or regulatory measure governing acceptance or utilisation of all (b) if so, the details of the oil and gas donations from sources within the finds in Tripura so far and Government's country. assessment thereof ; and Assistance to public sector to recover their (c) the steps being taken to harness dues tbese resources ? 404. SHRI S.M. GURADDI : Will THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the Minister of PETROLEUM AND MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) & (b). Gas (a) whether it is a fact that several bas been discovered at Baramura, GojaJia public sector Petroleum Units have .. . .. ,"" ~ their 237 Written A"swerl PHALOUNA; 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answerl 238 bills for the products supplied to Central (b) In addition to b~nefits froni the Government HospitaJs, Dispensaries and power projects currently u ,del' execution State Governments in heavy arrears; in Karnataka, the State has, in order to meet the demands, been allotted shares (b) the reasons' for one public sector from the Ramagundam Sup~r Thermal unit owing to another public sector Power Station of the NTPC, the Neyveli unit and ~tate Governments Dot paying Second-Mine Cut Thermal Station and the regularly to the public sector units; and Kalpakkam Atomic Power Station.

(c) whether his Ministry propose to take any steps to assist these public sector Re·opening of Madba vanagar and Higb units to recover their dues ? Grounds Post Offices

406. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE WiJI the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND be pleased to state: NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) to (c). The (a) whether the Madhavanagar and Public Sector undertakings under the ad­ High Grounds Post Offices were closed ministrative control of this Ministry do down because th~ G.!neral Post Office, not have any of their bills pending with Bangalore was temporarily located at High Central Government Hospitals and Dis .. Grounds; pensaries. As regard~ dues from State Governments, there are some outstanding (b) whether the General Post Offices dues mostly from State Road Transport has since been shIfted to its new building; Corporations and St.Ate Electricity Bo:uds. Payments are pending mdinly due to dis­ (c) if so, whether Government propose puted claims or paucity of funds. This to reopen the closed Post Offices at Ministry is already pursuing speedy settle­ Madhavanagar and High Grounds ment of the outstanding dues and the Bangalore, as there are no other Post matter will shortly be taken up with the Offices in these big residential and com­ State Governments at the highest level. merchl areas; and

Proposed taking up of Super Thermal Project (d) if not, reasons ther ..:for '1 in Karnataka THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 405. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) to state: Madhvanagar Post Office w~'s functioning in a private budding rented by General (a) whether there is any proposal Manager, Telephones. The building was before the Government to take up a Super to be vacated and handed over to the Thermal Project of 2000 MegaWatts in owners. The Post Office was therefore .. K.arnataka to overcome the acute power closed with effect from 1 3.1984 and the shortage; and counters of the Post Office were merged with the GPO than functioning in Poorna (b) if not, whether Government pro­ Prasad building in Crescent Road. As pose to see that it is taken up imme­ regards High Grounds Post Office, the diately since no power projects have so rented building in which it was accom­ far been financed by the Union Govern­ modated was found to be unsafe for occu­ ment in Karnataka '1 pation and no other suita ble rented accommodation was available. This Post THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Office was therefore close with effect from DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI 1.10.1983. In taking these decisions~ the ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN): (a) No fact that the area in Question is served such proposal is prcsen tly under considera­ by four other Post Offices (Gandbinagar" tion. Seshadipuram, Legislators Home and 239 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 WritUR A.IIIwM. I 240

Kumara Park West Extension Post Offices) Printiag of Bangalore teJephoae director, .... , located at a short distance of one another Kannada laaguap was also taken into account. 408. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYBR: (b) The GPO is now functioning from Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS its new building on Raj Bhavan Road. be pleased to state : However, a Post Office continues to func­ tion in the old building (Poorna Prasad (a) the total number of telephone BuiJdings) in Cresecent Road also. connections in the Bangalore city ; (b) the total number of telepbone (c) & (d). No, Sir. As stated in reply connections held by the Government of to part (a) and (b) above, the whole area Karnataka and its undertakings for the is adequately served by a number of Post use of its offices and officers; and Offices. Therefore there is no proposal to re-open the closed Post Offices. (c) whether Government propose to direct the Bangalore Telephones to print the Telephone Directory in Kannada and Appointment of Internal Auditors in Puhlic make it available to a1l State Government I Sector Undertakings offices and undertakings?

407. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be plea­ MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS sed to state: (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Total number of telephone connections in (a) whether it is a fact that all Central Bangalore city is 76,058. (as on 19.2.1986) Public Undertakings are not having full time Internal Auditors ; (b) Total number of telephone con­ nections provided for the and its undertakings is about (b) if so, whether Government propose 4000. to direct them to appoint full time In ternal Auditors; and (c) Telephone directory can be printed in a regional language if there is a demand (c) whether it has come to the notice of the order of 15% of the total require­ of Government that some of the Central ment of telephone directories. A study Public Sector Undertakings have appointed conducted in 1984 did not indicate ade­ Internal Auditors who are not employees quate demand for Kannada version of the of the Company ? directory for Bangalore city.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE [Translation] DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL

DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ Improvement in Foreign Commuoleatloa' t CHALAM) : (a) Yes sir. Service

409. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAa (b) At present there is no ~uch pro­ TRIPATHI : Will the Minister of posal. However, the Government have COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: already advised the Administrative Ministries/Departments to introduce a (a) whether Government propose to proper system of internal audit in the take any steps to bring about improvement enterprises under their administrative in Foreign Communication Service ; control, if such a system is not already in existence. (b) if so, the details in this regard an, the time by which improvements &to (c) Yes sir, likeJy to be made therein , an4 241; : PHALGUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answers 242

(c) the total expenditure likely to be Withholding of LPG supply by distributors incurred on this scheme and the number on eve of price hike of persons likely to be benefited thereby ? 410. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRIPATHI : Will the Minister of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE PETROLEUM & NATURAL GAS be MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS pleased to state : (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Improvement of foreign communication (a) whether it is a fact that due to services is a continuous process designed possibility of hike in prices, LPG distribu­ to keep the available facilities on par with tors had stopped supplying gas cylinders the international standards and require­ in Delhi and various parts of the country ments. The programmes have, however, some days before the actual hike in prices; to keep in view resource constraints and general technical limitations, within the (b) if so, Whether Government proposo time frame of each plan period. to take any action against them;

(b) During the 7th Plan period, OCS (c) whether Government propose to is planning a number of new schemes for conduct an inquiry as to why cylinders improvement of services such as were not supplied when the bookings had been made five days before the price hike; (1) Augmentation of Gateway Tele­ and phone Switching systems at Bombay. Madras and New Delhi (d) if not, the reasons therefor? and microwave links to Earth Stations; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND (2) Construction of Coast Earth NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA Station to work with the Inter­ SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) No, Sir. national Maritime Satellite system; (b)' Does not arise.

(3) Construction of a West-ward (c) and (d). There was some backlog Submarine Telephone Cable to in supply of refills in the the Gulf; of Delhi due to certain operational problems, including erratic functioning of (4) Extension of ISD services to a automatic carousel filling machines and number of countries depending on weighing systems at some bottling plants. feasibility and preparedness of Action for improving the position is beiet the other-end Administrations. taken.

With a view to allow for more [English] flexibility in the day-to-day functioning of the Overseas Security arrangement at I.O.C. terminal at Communications Service a deci­ Bijwasan, Delhi sion has since been taken to con .. vert the Organisation into a 411. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY : Public Limited Company with Will the Minister of PETROLEUM & effect from 1.4 86. NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

(c) The approved 7th Five Year Plan (n) whether it is a fact that two night outlay for the Overseas Communications watchmen at the Indian Oil Corporation's Service is Rs. 146.55 crores and the bene .. terminal on Bjjwasan Road, DeJhi were fits of the service will accrue to all the attacked by robbers on 14th January, 1986 users of the international telecommunica­ and attempt Was made to open the cash tioQs, ~h~st in tbe Accounts Department; 243 Written Answers FEBRUAR.Y 25, 1986

(b) if so, the details thereof THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMEN.. (SHRI M. ARUNA­ (c) whether the security ... of this termi­ CHALAM) : (a) & (b). Industrial Policy nal had been a matter of dispute between Resolution (1956) continues to provide Government and the Indian Oil Corpora­ the basic framework of the industrial tion ever since the terminal was policy of the Government and there is no set up in 1983 ; and proposal to revise it. As regards import of know-how, components and import (d) if so, the efforts being made to substitution, such proposals are consi dered take early decision in the matter in the on merits and are allowed only if indigen­ interest of security ? ous capability is not available in such areas.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Suspension of supply of steel pipes for HBJ MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & NATU­ projects by West G ermaa supplier RAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SING H) : (a) Yes, Sir. 413. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA­ MURTY: Will the Minister of PETRO­ LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased (b) About 10 armed persons entered to state: the Bijwasan Terminal around 2.15 A.M. on 14.01.1986 and demanded keys to the (a) whether it is a fact that Bergrohr, safe from the two watchmen on duty. the West German supplier of steel line Since the watchmen could not give the pipes for the Hazira-Bijaipur-]agdishpur keys, they were struck with iron rods, etc., pipeline project has suspended its supplies and were locked up in a room. There­ following serious differences with Gas after, the intruders attempted unsuccess­ Authority of India Limited; fully to breakopen the safe with the aid of LPG/oxygen gas cylinders taken from (b) if so, the details of the points of the canteen/repair workshop of the Termi­ d iff ..!rence; nal. They went away around 5.00 A M. after taking items like pocket calculators, (c) whether it would cause delay in the air blowers, etc., as also Rs. 450/- in cash implementation of the said project; a 11d from the pockets of the watchmen. (d) the action proposed to be taken by Government to ensure expeditious (c) No, Sir. completion of the prcject ?

(d) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND Review and revision of Industrial Policies NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) No, Sir. 412. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: (b) & (c). Do not arise. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state : (d) The offers received in response to the tender floated by Gas Authority of (a) whether Government propose to India Limited for the construction of the review and revise the industrial policies HB] Pipeline Project are being evaluated. which absorb large amounts of foreign exchange by way of importing know-how Retirement age of Supreme Court and and components and producing import Court Judges substitutions at high cost; and 414. SHRI H.M. PATEL: Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be (b) if so, the broad lines on the basis pJeased to state : of which the policies are proposed to be revised 1 (a) whether Government arc content- 245 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 246 plating a constitutional amendment for (c) The BICP studies have revealed increasing the retirement age of the that increase in car prices was commen­ Judges of the Supreme Court and the High surate with the cost of production and Courts; inputs.

(b) if so, the time by which Govern­ Increase in telecom outlay ment prop~se to bring forward an amend­ ing Bill before the Parliament ; and 416. SHRI V. TULSIRAM : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (c) whether Government propose giving retrospective effect to benefit persons (a) whether Government are consi­ who have retired after 1st January, 1985 ? dering to increase telecorn. outlay during the Seventh Five Year Plan; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (b) if so, the details thereof; (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) to (c). The question of improving the service (c) whether the twin city of Hyderabad conditions of Judges inclu.s:Jing the increase will also be taken over by the Metropolitan in their saJaries and the retirement age of Telephone Corporation, if SOl the details Judges in engaging the attention of the thereof and if not, the reasons therefor; Government. and

(d) the extent to which this new Car industry and consumer weighed down by system wili improve the working of policies of Government telephone system in the country?

415. DR. G. VIJA Y A RAMA RAO: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS pleased to state : (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) & (b). The possibility of raising additional resources during the Seventh Five Year (a) whether it is a fact that the car Plan through borrowings from the com­ industry and consumer continues to be mercidl market etc. is being explored. ~eighed down by Government's policies as revealed in the 18th Report of Estimates (c) No, Sir. The charter for the CommIttee of Eighth Lok Sabha ; Metropolitan Telephone Corporation is to take over the telephone system only in (b) whether there is any plan to the union territory of Delhi and Bombay. manufIlcture steel for the car body indigenously; and (d) The new system is proposed from the point of view of the flexibility in management and raising additional (c) whether periodic and steep increase financial resources. These two aspects in car prices since 1970 are considered are expected to help in improving the normal by any yardsticks by Government? working of the telephone systems.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Relaxation of Industrial Licence RulfS for DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DE­ Selected Industries VELOPMENT (Sl-IRI M. ARUNA­ CHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. 417. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (b) Bokaro Plant has already developed state: steel for the car body and is now in process of stepping up production (a) whether Government have decided ~apacity. to r~lax Industrial Licence Rules in respect 247 Written A",nper, FEBR.UARY 2S, 1986 Written AlISWera 248 of big Business Houses covered under (b) if so, the action taken by Govern­ MRTP and FERA for setting up any of ment against such cases of tax evasion the selected 23 industries in the Centrally and smuggling during 1984·85 and 1985-86 declared backward areas ; upto 31st January, 1986 and the outcome thereof; (b) if so, the details of such big Business Houses who intend to set up (c) the details of action taken against industries in the backward areas of the P&T Officers found guilty; and Andhra Pradesh; and (d) the details of preventive measures (c) when necessary permission will taken or proposed to be taken by Govern­ be granted indicatIng the information n1ent to chc(k such irregularities and about the industries to be set up and malpr~ctices ? location thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DE­ (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) to VELOPMENT (SHRT M. ARUNA· (d). The information is being collected CHALAM) : (a) Government had already rtnd will be laid on the table of the exempted certain industries from the House. operation of Sections 21 and 22 of the Monopolies & Restrictive Trade Practices Complaints regarding telephone service Act. As a part of liberalisation of between Delhi and Ballia industrial Jicensing policy :--.nd procedures, 419. SHRI JAGANNA1H CHOll Government have further extfndcd this DHAR Y : Will the Minister of COMMU facility and have de-licensed these indus­ NIC ATIONS be pleased to state: tries with the excepti0n of five in the case of MRTP(FERA companies provided (a) whether Government have received the parties set up capacities in centrally con1plaints to the effect that trunk calls declared backward areas. beaked for BaHia from Delhi do not mature as Varanasi-Ballia telephone (") As the decision was announced service general1y remains out of order; only very recently towards the middle of January, 1986, it is premature to indicate (b) if so, whether Government are the details of MR TP /PERA companies seriously thinking of taking steps to remove who proposed to set up industries in such such complaints ; and areas including Andbra Pradesh. (c) if so, the details thereof? (c) As the industries concerned have been de-licensed, no permISSIon from THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Government is called for, provided such MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS proposals conform to the scheme of deli­ (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) No, censing announced by Government. Sir. [Translation] (b) & (c). In view of reply at (a) above, question does not arise. Tax evasion and smuggling through parcels [English] 418. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: Will the Minister of Discontinuance of Railway Mail Service by COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to appointing private agents state : 420. DR. SUDHIR ROY: Will the (a) whether it is a fact that prohibited Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be goods are smuggled through the means of pleased to state : insured parcels resulting in smuggling as well as ta~ evasion ; (a) the reasons for di$Continuins Rail- Written Answers PflALGl1N A 6, 1901 (SAKA) Written An.rwers way Mail Service and appointing private TI-IE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE agents for collecting mails from the letter DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL boxes; and DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ CHA LA M): (a) The requirements. of State Governments for cement are not (b) the impact of the said change on obtained on regular basis, nor had the postal efficiency and errkployment potential Government of West Bengal intimated of the Department? their requirements in 1984 and 1985.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) and (c). The details regarding the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS allocation of cement made and the actual (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) Rail· quantity of levy cenlcnt despatched to way Mail Service has net been discon­ 'Vest Ber.gal (under State Category) in tinued . .f\.1aiJ from letter boxes contir,ues 1984 and 1985 arc given below: to be coneeted by letter box p{.ons and sinlil"r other d( partmental and extra­ (figures in thousand tonnes) departnlental (mpJoye(s. Howevtr, where a licens<. d postCl] ager t is [lppcintEd to sell post,ge stamps ar.d stade nery ~nd to book Year AllocatiC'n Despatches registen d letters, he is also required to (includir g (including clear the letter box installed at tl~c pre­ Irrigation Irrigation mises. This facillty is necessary so that & POWer & Power customers who purch3se postage stamps Projects) Projects) and stationery at the licensed p05.tal agency maya Iso post their correspondence at the 'same premises if they wish to do 1984 948 634 so. 1985 945 524 ( Provisional) (b) The practice of requlflllg licensed postal agent to clear and despatch postal articles posted at his premises speeds up Industrial development of Sindhudurg and the process of mail despatch. The employ­ Ra tnagiri districts ment potential of the Department is hardly touched by this procedure because the 422. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: proportion of licensed postal agencies to \-Vill the Minister of INDUSTRY be regular network of post offices is on1y pl(ased to state : about 0.3%. (a) whether it is a fact that mainly AHocation of cement to 'Vest Bengal due to lack of infrastructure like the rail­ ways, there has been uDsatisfactory industrial development in Sindhudurg and 421. SHRI AJOY BISW AS: Will Ratnagiri districts of the backward Kooun the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to region of Maharashtra ; state : (b) if so, whether through special (a) the requirement of cement of West incentives, industrialisation of this back­ Bengal in 1984 and 1985; ward region will be undertaken; and

(c) whether a time-bound programme (b) the quota allocated by the Union will be fixed for such a development? Government to West Bengal Government during the abo\'e period; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL (c) the actual quantity of cement DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ despatched during the period to West CHALAM) : (a) to (c). According to the Bengal? information received from the Department JJi'r/tten A.nswers PElJRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answers of Railways, final location survey for a maximum of Rs. IS lakhs besides COD­ Mangalore-Madgaon rail line and updating cessional finance and concessions in income of earlier survey for Madgaon-Roha tax etc. Development of infrastructure for stretch passing via Ratnagiri is in pro­ idustrial development in particular district/ gress. Further action will be taken after districts is, however, primarily the res­ completion of survey on the basis of the ponsibility of the State Government financial remunerativeness of the project concerned. and availability of resources. Sindhudurg and Ratnagiri districts of Maharashtra have been included in Category 'B' of the During the years 1983 to 1985 the industrially backward districts and the following number of Letters of Intent (LI), entrepreneurs setting up industries in these IndustriJI Licences (IL) and DGTD regis­ districts are eligible for 15~1o Central trations were issued for setting up Subsidy on the investments made on land, industries in Ratnagiri and Sindhudurg building, plant and machinery subject to districts :

. RATNAGIRI SINDHUDURG

Year LI IL DGTD LI IL DGTD

1983 4 2 1 1 1984 6 3 7 2 1 2 1985 4 3 9 1 1 1

Detai1s of Letters of Intent, Industrial Categorisation of two aDd three wheelers Licences and DGTD Registrations such as name of unit, item of manufacture, 423. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI location etc. are published by the Indian SHAKTA W AT: Will the Ministry of Investment Centre in their Monthly News INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Letter, copies of whicb are available in the Parliament Library. (a) whether Government have decided to categorise all types of motorised two During the years 1983-84 to 1985-86 and three wheelers; (upto 31.1.86) an amount of Rs. 8.99 crores was reimbursed under the Central (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and· Investment Subsidy Scheme to the Government of Maharashtra. Year-wise (c) whether any other vehic1es were break-up is as follows : ca tegorised ear lier ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Year Amount DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ 1983-84 2.61 crores CHALAM) : (a) to (c). All motor vehi­ cles have been grouped into the following 1984-85 3.65 crores two categories for the purpose of licensing 1985-86 2.73 crores with a view to improving capacity utilisa­ (upto Jao. 86) tion and achieving larger volume produc­ tion :

District-wise details of disbursements (i) Two and three wheelers upto prc not maintained. 350 cc eOlline capacity. Written Anawers PHALGUNA 6" 1901 (SAKA) Written Answer, 254

(ii) On-road automobiles having four for the enterprise as a whole, it is not or more wheels. considered practicable to provide details asked for. Losses/profits incurred by Public Sector Undertakings (d) The information on important projects under implemcnt.ltion with details 424. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA­ of original schedule of completion and MURTY: anticipated date of completion alongwith the original approved cost and the antici­ PROF. CHANDRA BHANU pated completion cost are given in Table DEVI: 12.5 of Chapter 12 of Public Enterprises Survey 1983-84 Volume 1, Page Nos. 131 to 134. Will the Minjster of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Raising of plant load factor in power plants (a) the losses/profits incurred by the various Public Sector Undertakings during 425. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA­ the last three years : ~fURTY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) the total amount invested on each of them and the cummulative losses up­ (a) whether Government have worked to 1985-86 ; out a plan or circulated suitable instruc­ tions for power plants to raise the plant (c) when those were expected to break load factor from 50 per cent to 60 per even as per the feasibility report and when cent or so ; they are expected to reach that position; and ( b) the steps taken to achieve the above goal and whether it is intended to (d) the actual escalation of cost due save thereby an investment of about to de1ay in completion of these projects in Rs. 11,000 crores ; time separate]y ? (c) whether the corporate sector is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE proposed to be involved in the power sector ; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ CHALAM) : (a) The details for three (d) jf so, the details thereof; and years ending 1983-84 are available ill Volume 3 Part I of the Public Enterprises (e) whether the Central Electricity Act Survey 1983-84 placed on the Table of the is sought to be amended for the above House on 15th March, 1985. purpose 'I

(b) The accounting year for most of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the undertakings for 1985-86 wHl be closing DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI only by 31.3.86 and therefore the details ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN): (a) & (b). are Dot avaiJable. However, the figures A number of measure~ are being taken as on 31.3.1984 are available in Volume to improve the Plant Load Factor of 1 of the Public Enterprises Survey 1983 .. 84 thermal pew .. r stations. These measures vide Page 169, Statement 16.1. The include (i) assistance to State Electricity 1984·85 Survey is also scheduled to be Boards for plant betterment programmes; placed before the House in the current (ii) assistance to SEBs for procurement of Session. requisite quantity and quality of coal; (iii) training of engineers and operation (c) As the feasibility reports are pre­ and mairTtenance personnel; etc. Besides, pared in many cases for individual projects a Centrally Sponsored Scheme for Reno­ Within an enterprise and not necessarily vation and Modernisation of thermal Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986

power stations is also being implemented. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Measures to improve the plant load factor THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL are being taken on a continuous basis and DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ as a result of the measures taken so far, CHALAM): (a) Bharat Heavy Plate & the plant load factor has increased from Vessels Ltd. which incurred losses till 47.9 per cent in 1983·84 to 51.3 per cent 1978-79, has been earning profit since during April, 1985 to January, 1986. 1979·80.

(b) & (c). The installed capacity of (c) & (d). The policy with regard to Bharat Heavy Plate & Vessels Ltd. and generation and distribution of eJectricity is the annual production during 1979-80 to regulated by the Industrial Policy Resolu­ 1984-85 is as under :- tion 1956. According to this Resolution, the generation and distribution of electri­ city falls under Schedule 'A' category of Year Installed Actual Pro- industries, the future development of capacity duction which is the exclusive responsibility of the (Tonnes) (Tonnes) State. The Resolution does not preclude the possibility of the State securing the cooperation of the private sector enter­ 1979-80 23210 6029 prises in the establishment of new units 1980-81 23210 13949 when the national interest so requires. As per this policy, Government have 1981-82 23210 13298 allowed replacement and expansion of 1982-83 23210 8222 units in the existing privately-owned power utilities. Permission for captive power 1983-84 23210 7568 units is accorded where the power require­ 1984-85 23210 11430 ment is substantial and continuous and reliable supply is necessary. The unit being a jobbing one, the (e) No, Sir. products are largely tailor made and custom built. Production planning is done on firm orders and in many cases Capacity utilisation by Bharat Heavy the design documentation has to be Plates and Vessels Limited approved by the customers or their consul­ tants. Some of the products in terms of 426. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA­ which the origina1 capacity was determi­ MURTY: Will the Minister of INDUS· ned, have had to be substituted owing to TRY be pleased to state: di versification schemes undertaken subse­ quently for better utilisation of facilities. Apart from inadequate orders change in (a) When the Bharat lleavy Plates and product mix has also contributed to actual Vessels Limited is expected to break even production in physical terms being lower according to the collaborator's feasibility than the capacity installed at the time of report and whether it continued to incur establishment of the plant. losses till 1978-79 ; Bifurcation of Posts and Telegrapbs (b) the rated capacity of the Bharat Department Heavy Plates and Vessels LiIllited and the annual output from 1979-80 to 1984-85 427. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: with reasons for low out-put; and Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) whether the overall capacity of the Plant was derated to 18,000· tons per (a) the reasons which is made it annum from about 23,000 tons and jf so, necessary for the Government to bifurcate the reasons therefor ? tclearaphs from the postal department; 257 Written Answers. PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written 'Answers 258

(b) whether it is a fact that this Telephone Alaram call and wake up call bifurcation has given a great set back to facilities in Delhi the working of the postal department in rural areas ; 429. SHRI PRIY A RANJAN DAS MUNSI: Will the Minister of COMMUNI­ (c) whether Government are aware that CATIONS be pleased to state: in rural areas when sub post office'S were sanctioned in the past, both posts and (a) whether telephone alarm call and telegraphs departments were working under wake up call facilities by dialing 113 have the sanle roof in good harmony and co­ been closed for operatIon in Delhi; and ordination; and (b) if so, the reasons thereof? (d) whether Government are also aware that became of bifurcation of tele­ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE graphs department from postal department, MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS the entire working of Postal department (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) No, has been in great jeopardy? Sir. However, this service was tempo­ rarily suspended for the period from THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 3.1.1986 to 26.1.86 due to shortage of MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS operative staff. (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a) The Sarin Committee on 1 elecommunications (b) In view of reply at (a) question set up by Government of India on 27th does not arist. May 1981, observed that a common P&T Board managing two totally disparate Supply of gas to fertilizer factorjes in services the posts and the telecommunica­ Hazira and Ankleshwar in Gujarat tions, one labour-in tensive and other capital and technology-incentive had not 430. SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEK­ worked satisfactorily, even in the existing WAD: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM situation. The Telecommunications service AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: is poised for an unprecented growth adap­ ted to the latest technology. For precisely (a) whether natural gas from Bombay the same reason, many of the telecommuni­ High and its satellite fields would be given cation administrations in the w0rld, both to fertilizer factories that are fast coming developed and developing, have scp~ratld up near Hazira and Ankleshwar in Gujarat Telecommllliic,1tions f10m the posta) ser­ instead of flaring up this natural gas; and vices. Such a separation already existed in India except at the Headquarters. The (b) if so, the details thereof? time had come to bring about this separa­ tion at the Board level also. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE The Committee also recommended MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND bifurcation of P&T Department into a NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA separate Department of Telecommunica­ SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) & (b). Associated tions and a Department of Posts. The Natural Gas produced at Bombay High is recommendations were accepted by the being supplied to : Government of India. (i) ReF Trombay, (b) No, Sir, telegraph facilities pro\!\­ ded in rural post offices before bifurcation (ii) ReF Thd-Vaishet, continue to be available to members of the public, after bifurcation also. (iii) Deepak Fertilizers & Petrochemi­ cals Limited, Taloja and (c) Yes, Sir. (iv) KRIBHCO twin Fertilizer Plant, (d) No, Sir. Hazira. ~S9 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answe,s 260

After April 1986, when the additional (d) Government have liberalised poli.. compression facilities are commis­ cies in the area of industrial approvals sioned in Bombay High it is and foreign collaboration. ex.pected that fidring will be minimised. Capacity utilisation of Maruti Udyog Limited Production of bulk drugs 432. SHRI V.S. VIJA Y ARAGHA VAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be 431. PROF. RAMAKRISHNA MORE: pleased to state : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (a) the total capacity of Maruti Udyog I.td. and actual production; (a) to what extent the production of bulk drugs and formulations fell short of (b) the total demand for different types the revised target for the Sixth Five Year of vehicles; and Plan and the reasons therefor; (c) the steps being taken to meet the demand? (b) to what extent the gap between the demand and supply of drugs and for­ mulations widened as a result thereof; THE MlNISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ (c) the estimated target for tbe produc­ CHALAM) : (a) The installed 'capacity of tion of bulk drugs and formulations during Maruti Udyog Limited, is forty thousand the Seventh Five Year Plan period ; and vehicles. Production during the year 1985·86 is estimated around 52 thousand (d) how Government propose to vehic1es. achieve the target to narrow the gap between demand and supply ? (b) About 2 lakh customers are wait­ listed. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND (c) The company is making efforts to PETROCHEMICALS (SHRI R. K. manufacture 85 thousand vehic1es during JAICHANDRA SINGH) : (a) In 1984 .. 85 1986-87 against project report figure of 60 (the terminal year of the Sixth Five Year thousand. The work of Phase II Expansion Plan) production of bulk durgs was about is in progre~s and will rdise capacity to Rs. 377 crOTes as compared to the revised 1,00,000 vehicles per year. target of Rs. 500 crores. The correspond­ ing figures of formulations are Rs. 1827 [Translation] ecores and Rs. 1950 crores respectively. Moderoi sation of telephone Services in One of the major reasons for the non­ Gujarat fulfilment of the targets was that the demand for various drugs did not pick up 433. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN as anticipated. RAMJIBHAI MAVANI: Win the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state : (b) Dtes not arise. (a) the number of places in various (c) The requirement of bulk drugs circles of Gujarat where it is proposed to and formulations during 1989-90 (the modernize telephone system; terminal year of the 7th Five Year Plan) is estimated to be Rs. 1033.4 crores and (b) the time by which this work would Rs .. 3775 crores respectively. be completed; and ~61 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers

(c) the details of the scheme to this MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS effect? (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA): (a), (b) and (c). The required information is given THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE in the statement given below:

Statement

Electronic telephone exchanges are planned to be provided at the following places during the 7th Plan period as per details given against each :

S1. Name of Capacity Programme for commissioning No. place (tentative)

1 2 3 4

1. Ahmedabad 43,000 Jines 10,000 lines already commissioned

(i) Local exchanges 8,000 lines during 1986 ... 87 8,000 lines during 1987 ... 88 10,000 hnes during 1988-89 7,000 lines during 1989-90

(ij) Trunk Automatic 3,000 lines During 1989.. 90 exchange

2. Baroda

(i) Local exchange 10,000 Jines during 1989-90

(ij) Trunk Automatic exchange 2,000 lines During 1989-90

3. Sural

(i) Local exchange 6,000 lines 4,000 lines during 1988-89 2,000 lines during 1989-90 Oi) Trunk Automatic exchange 2,500 lines 1,000 lines during 1987.. 88 1,500 Jines during 1988-89 4. Rajkot

(i) Local exchange 2,000 Hnes during 1988-89.

(ii) Trunk Automatic exchange 3,500 lines 2,000 lines during 1988-89 1,500 lines during 1989-90

5. Gandhidbam 4,000 Hnes 2,000 lines already commissioned 2,000 lines during 7th Plan.

6. Gandhinagar 3,000 lines During 1986-87 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written A.nswers

1 2 3 4

7. Vera val 3,000 lines 2,000 lines already commissioned 1,000 lines during 7th Plan.

8. Porbandar 4,000 lines 3,000 lines already commissioned ],000 lines during 7th Plan.

9. Mehsana 4,000 lines 3,000 lines already commissioned 1,000 lines during 7th Plan.

10. Kodinar 400 lines During 1986-87.

Setting up of Lok Adalats Bihar 5 Haryana 2 434. SHRIMATI PATEL RAMABEN Maharashtra 6 RAMJIBHAI MA V ANI : Will the Minister of LAW AND JUSTICE be pleased to Orissa 3 state : Rajasthan 3 TC!mil Nadu 2 (a) the number of Lok Adalats held in Uttar Pradesh 30 Gujarat and various parts of the country Delhi 2 during the period from 1 January, 1985 to 14 February, 1986 ; Lok Adalats are yet to be held in th~ (b) the details in this regard ; remaining States and Union territories.

(c) the number and nature of cases (b) and (c). At the Lok Adalats cases settled; of every type are taken up including Civil, Criminal, Matrimonial, Revenue, (d) the names of the States and Union Motor Accident Claims and disputes of Territories where Lok Adalats have not miscel1aneous nature. Special Lok Adalats been held; and are held by the State Legal Aid and Advice Board for handling old cases under Motor (e) .the names of the States and districts Vehicle Act. The following are the total in which Lok Adalats will be held in number of cases handled and finally settled state-wise: 1986 ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Andhra Pradesh 2000 (During mon ths MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE of January and (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) and (d). February, 1986) According to the information furnished by the Committee for Implementing Legal Bihar 2595 Aid Schemes: Gujarat 3724 Haryana 5000 (Approximately) The details of Lok Adalats held in Maharashtra 1610 country during the period from 1st January, 1985 to 14th February, 1986 are as under: Orissa 490 Rajasthan 27180 Gujarat 17 Uttar Pradesh 56728 Andhra Pradesh 6 Delhi 326 265 Written Yl,nswers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer8

(e) Every State Legal Aid and Advice (b) whether there is sudden increase in Board is being motivated for holding Lok the rate of accidents, if so, the reasons Adalats in 1986. thereof ; and

[English] (c) whether it is a fact that none of

\ the officers and supervisors remain under­ Fatal accidents in Dharat Coking Coal ground with the workmen to scrutinise Limited safety provisions resulting in accidents? 435. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI to state: V ASANT SA THE): (a) There have beoD 13 fatal accidents involving 15 persons in (a) the number of fatal accidents in the mines of Bharat Coking Coal Limited the mines of Bharat Coking Coal Limited in the 1ast 4 months. The details of these in the last four months, facts in detail ; accidents are as under :

Date of Place Cause of accident No. of persons Accident killed

-8.10.85 Nichitpur Hit by Dozer 1

9.10.85 Sendra Side fa1l 3

10.10.85 Angarpathra Run over by empty tut-s 1

10 10.85 Nudkhurkee Blasting 1

17.10.85 Lodna Fell down in the shaft 1

31.10.85 Mudidih Side fall 1

9.11.85 Gondudih Run over by moving haulage 1

21.11.85 Mudidih Hit t-y the Cable 1

23.11.85 Muraidih Fall of dozer blade 1

26.11.85 Bhowra South Fall from the Pontoon 1

6.12.85 GopaJichak Fall of ground r

12.12.85 Kuya Side fall 1

20.12.85 Alkusa Roof fall 1

There has been no fatal accident in the but no specific reasons can be attributed month of January, 1986. for this increase.

(b) There has been an increase in the (c) No, Sir. rate of accidents in the later part of 1985 267 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answers 268

[Tran.rlation] [English]

Oil reserve in Dulli Patti village, District Cases of overbilling and dead telephones Madhubani, Bihar 437. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO : Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS 436. SHRI ABDUL HANNAN be pleased to state : ANSARI: Will the Minister of PETRO­ LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased (a) whether there is any remedial to state: administrative scheme in respect of over­ billing and dead telephones in operation (a) whether oil reserves have been throughout the country ; found by experts at Dulli Patti village of KhazoH block in District Madhubani, (b) the number of cases of over-billing Bihar; and dead te1ephones settled during the last three years, State-wise; (b) whether it is a fact that the plant removed from Bettia is being installed (c) the number of cases at (b) settled there by the Oil and Natural Gas Commi. in favour of subscribers; and ssion which has ini tia ted the preliminary work; (d) if so, whether any cases have come up so far under section 7(b) of the Indian (c) whether any representation has Telegraph Act? been submitted to Government in this regard; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTR Y OF COMMUNICA TIONS (d) whether Government propose to (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Yes, take concrete steps in this direction so Sir. that the wastage of money may be checked and success achieved by the Oil and (b) & (c). The information is being Natural Gas Commission? collected from the units and will be placed on the table of the House as early as THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE possible. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA (d) Yes, sir. SHEKHAR SINGH): (a) & (b). No oil has yet been found in the Madbubani District [Translation] of Bihar. One parametric well is proposed to be drilled here to obtain subsurface Setting up of gas-based thermal power plant geologica1 information by the same rig in Kota by National Thermal Power used for drilling Gandak well in the Bet tia Corporation district. 438. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be (c) & (d). Representations have been pleased to state : .received against removal of ONGC rig from Bettia District and also for induction of more rigs in the area. As further drilling (a) whether it is a fact that Union in Gandak area C2n be undertaken only Government have decided for setting up after analysing the data collected so far of a gas-based thermal power plant of 500 which will take sometime and the rig megawa tt capacity, nea r Anta in Kota cannot be kept idle, it is proposed to be district by National Thermal power moved to Madhubani for drilling a para­ Corporation ; and metric well. Exploration in this basin is being carried out by ONGC according to (b) if so, the time by which the work a wel1 conceived plan, for this power plant would be taken up 269 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 270 and the time by which it would be com­ expanded. Projects relating to production, pleted'l conversion and utilisation of biomass have reached the extension stage and biomass THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE gasifiers have been commercialised. Manu­ facturing of infrastructure for various DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARIF technologies has been established and is MOHAMMAD KHAN): (a) & (b). It is steadily expanding. A number of energy proposed to set up a gas-based power plant self sufficient villages have been set up and of 430 MW capacity near Anta in the Kota a programme initiated for thousands of District. The project would be imp1 ement­ such villages, where the power, cooking ed by the National Thermal Power Corpo­ and lighting needs of the entire village ration. The first Gas Turbine unit at Anta would be provided by locally available is scheduled for commissioning twenty­ non-conventional sources of energy. four months after the placement of orders for main plant and equipment. R&D activities have been intensified further to reduce the cost and improve [English] efficiency of renewable energy systems. Development of non-conventional energy sources (b) & (c). A board perspective plan has been prepared which envisages the 439. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: Will the installation of 15,000 MW of power and Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: meeting 20% of total energy needs by the turn of the Century fIom non-conven­ tional energy sources. (a) the progress achieved in developing non-conventional energy sources; Safety measures taken at Oil Wells under Oil Mines Regulations (b) whether any perspective plan has been prepared in this regard; and 440. DR. G.S. RAJHANS : (c) if so, the details thereof? SHRI ANAND SINGH:

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Will th~ Minister of PETROLEUM VASANT SATHE) : (a) As a result of in­ AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to tensive R&D activities and demonstration state: programmes taken up in various areas of non-conventional energy sources, a number of technologies have been developed which (a) whether attention of Government have been found technically feasible for has been drawn to a news item captioned various applications including generation "Many Oil \Vells 'Threat' to Life" appear­ of electricity. Large scale Extension Pro­ ing in "The Hindustan Times" of 12th grammes such as National Programme on January, 1986; Biogas Development, National Programme of Improved Chulha, Solar Thermal (b) if so, whether it is a fact that Extension Programmes ha ve been launched several oil wells are located in the country throughout the country and are being near residential colonies and have not expanded consistant with the financial taken statutory steps under the Oil Mines constraints. These are already providing Regulations, 1984 ; and saving energy for lakhs of individuals and institutions throughout the country. Solar photovoltaic systenls have been deve­ (c) if so, the reaction of Government thereto ; and loped and are being increasingly deployed for electrifying remote villages and other small power needs. Two wind farms for (d) the steps contemplated by Govern­ large scale electricity production have ment to provide adequate safety rneasur~3 been set up and this capaci~)' is being in these oil well$ ? 211 Written Answers FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Answer, 272

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) the details of the Ministries to MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND which the reports, already tabled in both NA TURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA the Houses, have b~en sent for considera­ SHEKHAR SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. tion of the recommendations made therein as well as the dates on which these reports have been sent to them; and (b) to (d). While drilling oil wells near villages/townships, statutory steps and (c) the action taken by his Ministry on safety precautions are always taken under the reports on which the Ministries have the Mines Act and Regulations. These expressed their opini on till date? include installation of a Christmas Tree, steel fencing of sufficient height around THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE the well and periodic checks for leakages, MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE dtmarcation of areas for 'N 0 Smoking', (SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ): (a) & (b). etc. The Law Commission during the last three years have submitted 26 reports in all. 25 [Translation] reports out of them have been laid on the Table of both Houses of Parliament Action taken on Lall' Commission reports and one report not so laid. The informa­ tion regarding the subjects of these reports, the names of the Ministries to whom and 441. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : the dates on which these have been sent Will the Minister of LAW AND is given in the attached statement. JUSTICE be pleased to state: (c) The Government has decided not to (a) the total number of reports sub­ proceed with the recommendation made in mitte~ by Law Commission during the last the Ninety... fifth Report. The recommenda­ three years alongwith their subjects and tions made in the One Hundred and Fourth out of these which have been laid on the Report has been inlplemented by enacting Table of both the Houses of Parliament the Judges (Protection) Act, 1985. The and also which have not been laid on the views/opinions of the Ministries/Depart­ Table so far; ments on the other reports are awaited.

Statement

s. No. of Subject matter of the Ministry! Department Date when No. the Report to whom sent sent Report

1 2 3 4 5

1. 88 Govt. Privilege in Evidence Ministry of Home Affairs 4.5.84 Sections 123-124 and 162 Deptt. of Legal Affairs/ Indian Evidence Act, 1872 Legislative. and Art. 74 and 163 of the Consti tu tion.

2. 89 Limitation Act, 1963. Legislative 24.8.84

3. 90 The grounds of divorce Legislative 26.4.84 amongst Christians in India- Section 10, Indian Divorce Act, 1869. 273 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 274

1 2 3 4 5

4. 91 Dowry Deaths and Law Legislative 26.4.84 Reforms-amending (i) the Hindu Marriage Act, 1955 (ii) I.P .C., 1860 (iii) Indian Evidence Act, 1872.

5. 92 Damages in Applications Legislative/Justice/Legal 4.5.84 for Judicial Review-Reco­ Affairs Ministry of Home mmendations for Legisla- Affairs. tion.

6. 93 Disclosure of sources of I&B 16.5.84 Information by Mass Media. Legislative Deptt.

7. 94 Eviden ce obtained illegally Legislative 11.5.84 or improperly-proposed Sec. 166A-Indian Evidence Act, 1872.

8. 95 Constitutional Division with­ Justice 5.2.85 in the Supreme Court-A proposal for.

9. 96 Repeal of certain obsolete Justice/Legislative, 1.9.84 Central Acts. Ministry of Labour/Petro­ leum/Finance.

10. 97 Section 28, Indian Contract Legisla tive 10.9.84 Act-Prescriptive Clauses in Contracts.

11. 98 Section 24 to 26, Hindu Deptt. of Legal Affairs Marri[.ge Act, 1955, Orders for Interim Maintenance and Orders for the Mainte­ nance of children in matri­ monial proceedings.

12. 99 Oral and written arguments Deptt. of Justice. 25.8.84 in the Higher Courts.

13. 100 Litigation by and against DepU. of Justice/Legis­ 25.8.84 the Govt.-some recommen­ lative Deptt. & Personnel 7.11.84 dations for reform. & Training.

14. 101 Freedom of speech and Ministry of Home Affairs} 6.2.84 expression under Art. 19 of Industry. the Constitution-reco­ mmendation to extend to Indian Corporation. 275 Written Answer, FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Written Anlwer.r 276

1 2 3 4 5

, 15. 102 Sec. 122 (1) of the Code of Ministry of Home Affairs 6.2.85 Cr. P.C. Imprisonment for breach of 'Bond for keeping peace with sureties.

16. 103 lTnfair terms in Contracts. Legislative Department 5.2.85

17. 104 The Judicial Officers Pro­ DepU. of Justice. 6.2.85 tection Act.

18. 105 Quality Control and Inspec­ Ministry of Food & Civil 4.3.85 tion of Consumer Goods. Supply/Industry & Com­ pany Affairs & 14 others.

19. 106 Sec. 103A Motor Vehicle Ministry of Transport. 1.3.85 Act, 1939, Effect of Trans­ fert of a Motor Vehicle on insurance.

20. 107 Law of Citizenship. Ministry of Home Affairs 29.5.85

21. 108 Promissory Estoppal. Legislative Department 29.5.i5

22. 109 Obscene and Indecent Ministry of I & B/Home 29.5.85 Advertisement and Displays Affairs. Sec. 292-293 I.P.C.

23. 110 The Indian Succession Act, Not laid on the Table of 1925. Parliament.

24. 111 The Fatal Accident Act, Industry/Transport/La bour 9.1.86 1855. Finance.

25. 112 Sec. 45 of the Insurance Finance. 9.1.86 Act, 1938.

26. 113 Inj uries in Police Custody. Home Affairs. 15.1.86

[English] tant Secretary of Commerce visited India in January 1986 to explore trade and U.S. trade mission for oil and gas in India investment prospects in the field of oil and gas in India ; 442. SHRI MAHENDRA SlNGH: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state : (b) if so, the outcome thereof; and

(a) whether a high level U.S. trade (c) the fo]low-up action being taken in mission headed by the U ,S. Deputy Assis- that resard ? 277 Written Answers PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) 278

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 12.02 hrs. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & NATU­ RAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR RE : QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE AGAI­ SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. NST SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN AND SHRI Z.R. ANSARI, MINISTERS OF STATE FOR EXPRESSING OPPO­ (b) The two sides exchanged views regarding speedier processing of tenders, SITE VIEWS ON CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE (AMENDMENT) BILL BY terms and conditions of the next round of bidding for exploration contracts, possi­ SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA, M.P. bilities of joint ventures in oil field equipments and services, etc. [English] (c) The Mission was. of an exploratory nature. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Rajapur) : I am raising a privilege [English] question. According to Article 7S (3) of the Constitution, the Council of Ministers 12.00 hrs. sha1l be collectively responsible to the SHRI NARAYAN CHAUBEY (Mid­ House of the People. Shri Banatwalla napore) : A large number of women are introduced a Private Member's Bill. Shri waiting .. Arif Mohammad Khan and Shri Z.R. Ansari spoke on the Bill and both of them PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE are members of the Council of Ministers. (Rajapur) : Article 75 (3) of the Constitu­ One of them ~upported the judgment of tion says .... (Interruptions). the Supreme Court .... (Interruptions).

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE MR. SPEAKER : No, no. I have got (BoIpur): They are waiting near the you. Parliament House. They are protesting against the introduction of this Mus1im PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : It Women's Bill. is the failure of the collective responsi­ bility. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat) : They want to corne and meet you Sir, but MR. SPEAKER: All right. If you they are not being allowed to come in .... want, I will give you my ruling. (Interruptions) There is a delegation. They have come here. They are not PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Do allowed. not do it hurriedly just as the Government is doing in bringing forward this Bill. MR. SPEAKER : Now, three or four people are always allowed to come and MR. SPEAKER : No, no. I have taken meet me. No problem. great care. I disallowed the Bill. You (Interruptions) know! MR. SPEAKER: It has never been a PROF. MADHU DANDA V A TE problem and it is not going to be a pro­ I do not know Sir. blem now also. They can always come. MR. SPEAKER: Don't you know? SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA ; The Security people are creating a problem. Kindly ask them .... (Interruptions) PR0F. MADfIU DANDAVATE : No Sir. I only had a suspicion that you were MR. SPEAKER : There is nothing disallowing it ! much to worry here. MR. SPEAKER: Professor, sometimes (Interruptions) your intuitions are correct! 279 Re: Question 0/ Privelege FEBRU ARY 25, 1986 Mohammad Khan and Shri 280 against Shri Arif Z.R. Ansari

PROF. MADHU DANDA V ATE: the Bill has not been placed before the Whatever ruling you may give, it should House. guide the Parliament for generations to come. A contempt of the House can generally arise only when something is done which. MR. SPEAKER: No problem. I have directly or indirect1y causes or tends to gone into the subject thoroughly and exa­ cause obstruction in the functioning of the mined every aspect of it. House, Members, officers or committees. I do not find any of the afores:.tid ingre­ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : In dients in the speeches made by Shri Arif this House, is there a single precedent Mohamm:::.d Khan and Shri Z.R. Ansari. where two nlembers of the Council of Moreover, uIle~ed violation of any Consti­ Ministers have t::lken opposite stands? tutional or st3.tutory provision is a matter to be decided by courts nnd no parlia­ MR. SPEAKER : On 30th ]ar.uary mentary privilege would arise in such 1986, Prof. Madhu Dandavate gave notice cases. of a question of privilege against Shri Arif Mohammad Khan, l\1inister of State in Accordingiy, I withhold illY consent the Department of Power and Shri Z.R. under rule 222 to the raising of the matter Ansari, Minister of State in the Ministry in the House ~s a question of privilege. of Environment and Forests for viola ting Article 75 (3) of the Constitution by ex­ SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE pressing totally oppo~ite views ('11 a Pri­ (Balpur) : Express your annoyance, Sir! vate Memb(r~s Bill, namdy, the Cod~ of Criminal Procedure (Amendment) Bill, PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Sir 1985 by Shri G.M. Banatwalla, M.P. The which code would you recommend? contention of Prof. Da ndavate is that while participating in the debate on the SHRI SOl\1NATH CHATTERJEE above Bill, Shri Arif ~loh;'_tmmc.d Khan What i"\ this? and Shri Z.R. Ar.sari both members of Council of Ministrrs, vehemently expressed MR. SPEAKER: It is a democracy. diametrically opposite views on the Supreme Court judgment in the 'Shah SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA Ba~o Case' ; the former defended the RAO (Vijayawada): Sir, we have given a judgment while the latter attacked it in no privilege motion against the Prime Minis­ uncertain terms. Thus, both the Ministers ter and the Home Minister with regard to had violated the principle of collective Ram Swaroop case, making concerted responsibility and thereby committed a efforts to malign the integrity of the breach of privilege and contempt of the Members and the Opposition Parties .... House. (Interruptions) ** As the House is aware, the Code of Criminal Procedure (Amendment) Bill MR. SPEAKER: Not al1owed. It is seeking to amend Sections 125 and 127 of sub-judice. I will allow those Members the said Code dealing with maintenence who are concerned with it. allowance to wives, children and parents, is a Private Member's Bill and is at the SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. stage of general discussion. The concerned DEO (Parvathipuram): What about my Minister who will spel1 out Government's notice? considered views/decision in the matter has yet to reply to the debate. * As such MR. SPEAKER: I have disallowed it. the policy decision of the Government on (Interruptions) **

* Position as on 30th January 1986. The Bill has since been withdrawn, ** Not recorded. ~81 Re: Question of Prive/ege PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Papers Laid 28~ against Shr; Ari! Mohammad Khan and Shri Z.R. Ansari

MR. SPEAKER: I have just said that MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. No, if the name of any Member from this not aUowed. House has been mention ~d, I will allow him.

SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA 12.09 hrs. (Bankura) : There should be a discussion.

MR. SPEAKER: No. Not allowed. I PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE am not allowing it. ( lllterruptions)** [English] Economic Survey, 1985.. 86 PROF. K.K. TEWARY (Buxar) :.Sir, we have been gi\ ing notices and also THE l'vIINJSTER OF FINANCE (SHRI nlceting you for a discussion on the VJSHWANATH PRI\TAP SINGH): deteriorating situation in Punjab .... I b(g to Jay on the Table a copy of the (Interruptions) 'Economic Sur\' ey', 1985-86 (Hindi and ErgJish versions). [Placed in Library, MR. SPEAKER: Give a notice, I will See No. I.T.-1971/86.J consider it. There is no problem. Review on and Annual Report of the I.B.P. [Trails/at ion] Company Ltd., and its subsidiary Messrs. Balmer Lawrie and Co., Ltd., for 1984-85, SHRI SULTAN SALAHUDDIN Oil Industry Defelopment Board, New Delhi OWA1SI (Hyderabad) : There is un­ for 1984-85 and Oil and Natural Gas Com- rest in the country 8S a whole. \Vhat is mission for 1984-85. being done in resp~ct of BJbri M2~jid? Firing is takirg place everywhrre .... THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ( Interruptions) MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI CHANDRA [English] SHEKHAR SINGH): I beg to lay on the Table: MR. SPEAKER : No. Not 'lllowed. \\'e will discllss this question-comm .. lt,al (1) A copy each of the following situation-- sc'mc {in1: whl:n the sin!dion p ... pers (Hindi and English ver­ uriscs. sions) ·under sub-section (1) of ( Interruptions) section 6J9 A of the Companies Act, 1956 : SHRI lNDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat) Something was decided in the Business (i) Review by the Government Advisory Comn1 ittee I am told, about this on the working of the IBP (spionage case. We have not been told .Company Limited and its that you have withdrawn yo~r consent to subsidiary Messrs Balmer the AdjoUl nment fvlotion which we have Lawrie and Company Limi.. given. ted for the year 1984-85.

MR. SPEAKER : Not allowed. No (ii) Annual Report of the IBP discussion. I hJ.ve allowed only self­ Compal y Limited and its expl< nation by hoso(. ver Men1ber is thert'. w subsidiary Messrs Balmer is a subjudice matter. It Lawrie and Company Limi­ (Interruptions)· * ted for the year 1984-85

•• Not recorded. Papers Laid FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Paper, Laid

along with Audited Accounts Limited, New Delhi, for the and the comments of the year 1984-85. Comptroller and Auditor General thereon. [Placed in Library. See No. Lt-1974/86.] [Placed in Library. See No. LT -1972/86.] Profit and Loss Account etc. of Telecom­ munications Branch of Posts and Tele­ graphs Department for the year . (2) (i) A copy of the Annual Re- port (Hindi and English 1983-84 versions) of the Oil Industry THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Development Board, New MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS Delhi, for the year 1984-85 (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) ; I beg to along with Audited Accounts lay on the Table a copy of the under sub-section (4) of Profit and Loss Account and section 20 of the Oil In­ Balance Sheet (on accural basis) of dustry Development Act~ ]974. the Telecommunications Branch of Posts and Telegraphs Department for the year 1983-84. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi 1975/86.] and English versions) by the (Interruptions) Government on the working of the Oil Indust9 Develop­ MR. SPEAKER: It is my ruling. It ment Board, New Delhi, for cannot be challenged. the year 1984-85.

(3) A statement (Hindi and English Notification under Delhi Development versions) showing reasons for Authority Act, Annual Report etc. of delay in laying the papers men­ Delhi Urban Art Commission, tioned at (2) above. New Delhi for 1984-8S.

{Placed in Library. See No. LT- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1973/86.] MINISTRY OF URBAN DEVELOP­ MENT (SHRI DALBIR SINGH): I beg (4) (i) A copy of the Annual Re- to lay on the Table- port (Hindi and English versions) together with Audited Accounts of the Oil (1) A copy of the Delhi Develop­ ment Authority (Zoning) Regula­ and Natural Gas Commission tions, 1983 (Hindi and English for the year 1984-85 and of its subsidiary company versions) published in Notification No. S.O. 161 in Gazette of India Hydrocarbons India Limited, dated the 18th January, 1986, New Delhi for the year 1984... under section 58 of the Delhi 85, under sub-section (3) of Development Act, 1957. section 23 read with sub­ section (4) of section 22 of [Placed in Library. See No. LT- the Oil and Natural Gas 1976/86.] Commission Ac~, 1959. (2) (i) A copy of the Annual (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi Report (Hindi and English and English versions) by the versions) of the Delhi Urban Government on the working Art Commission, New Delhi, of the Oil and Natural Gas for the year 1984-85, under Commission for the year section 19 of the Delhi 1984-85 and of its subsidiary Urban Art Commission Act, company Hydrocarbons India 1973. 285 Paper' Laid PHALGVNA 6, 1907 (SA~) Papers Laid 2St)

(ii) A copy of the Annual of the Mining and Accounts (Hindi and English Allied Machinery Cor­ versions) of the Delhi Urban poration Limited, Dur­ Art Commission, New Delhi, gapur, for the year for the year 1984-85 together 1984-85. with Audit Report thereon, vnder sub-section (4) of sec­ (ii) Annual Report of the t'ion 20 of the Delhi Urban Mining and Allied Art Commission Act, 1973. Machinery Corpora­ tion Limited, Durgapur, (iii) A statement (Hindi and for the year 1984-85 English versions) regarding along with Audited Review by the Government Accounts and the com­ on the Audited Accounts of ments of the Comp­ the Delhi Urban Art Com­ troller and Auditor mission. New Delhi, for the General thereon. year 1984-85. [Placed in Library. See [Placed in Library. See No. No. LT-1979/86.] LT-1977/86.] (b) (i) Review by the Govern­ Oil Pressure Stoves (Quality Control) Order, ment on the working 1985, Statement re : Review on Mining and of the National Instru­ Allied Machinery Corporation Ltd., ment Limited, Calcutta, Durgapur, for the year 1984-85, National for the year 1984-85. Instruments Ltd., Calcutta, for the year 1984-85, Lagan Jute Machinery Com­ (ii) Annual Report of tbe pany Ltd., Calcutta, for tbe year National Instruments 1984-85, etc. Limited, Calcutta, for the year 1984-85 along THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE with Audited Accounts DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL and the comments of DEVELOPMENT (SHRI M. ARUNA­ the Comptroller and CHALAM): I beg to lay on the Table : Auditor General there- on. (1) A copy of the Oil Pressure Stoves [Placed in Library. (QuaJity Control) Order, 1985, See No. LT-1980/86.] (Hindi and English ver~ions) published in Notification No. (c) (i) A statement regarding G.S.R. 757(E) in Gazette of India Review by the Govern­ dated the 25th September, 1985, ment on the working under sub-section (6) of section of the Lagan Jute 3 of the Essentia1 Commodities Machinery Company Act, 1985. Limited, Calcutta, for tbe year 1984-85. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 1978/86.] (ii) Annual Report of the Lagan Jute Machinery (2) A copy each of the following Company Limited, Cal­ papers (H indi and English ver­ cutta, for the year 1984- sions) under sub-section (1) of 85 along with Audited section 619A of the Companies Accounts and the com­ Act, 1956 : ments of the Comp­ troller and Auditor (a) (i) A statement regarding General thereon. Review by the Govern­ [Placed in Library. See ment on the Working No. LT-1981/86.J 287 Papers Laid FEBRUARV 25, 1986 Papers Laid

(d) (i) A statement regarding Limited, Patna, for the Review by the Govern­ year 1984-85 along with ment on the working of Audited Accounts and the Maruti Udyog Limi­ the comments of the ted, New Delhi. for the Comptrol1er and Audi­ year 1984-85. tor General thereon. [Placed in Library. See (ii) Annual Report of the No. LT-1984/86.] M.aruti Udyog Limited, New Delhi, for the year -(g) (i) A statement regarding 1984-85 along with Review by the Govern­ Audited Accounts and ment on the working of the comments of the the HMT Limited, Comptroller and Audi­ Bangalore, for the year tor General thereon. 1984-85. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-1982/86.] (ii) Annual Report of the H MT, Bangalore, for te) (i) A statement regarding the yedr 1984-85 along Review by the Govern­ with Audited Accounts ment on the working and the comments of of the Bharat Process the ~omptro11er and and Mechanical Engi­ Auditor General there­ neers Limited, Calcutta on. and itb subsidiary viz., [Placed in Library. See Weighbird (India) Limi­ No. LT-1985J86.] ted, Calcutta, for the year 1984-85. (b) (i) Review by the Govern­ ment on the working (ii) Annual Report of the of the Hindustan Cables Pharat Process and Limited, for the year Mechanical Engineers 1984-85. Limited, Calcutta and its subsidiary viz., Weighbird (India) Limi­ (ii) Annual Report of the ted, Calcutta, for the Hindustan Cables Limi­ year 1984-85 along with ted for the year 1984-85 Audited Accounts and along with Audited the commen ts of the Accounts and the com­ Comptroller and A udi­ ments of the Comp­ tor General thereon. troller and Auditor General thereon. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-1983-86.] [Placed in Library. See No. LT-1986/86.] (f) (i) A statement regarding Review by the Govern­ (i) (i) A statement regarding ment on the working of Review by the Govern­ the Bharat Wagon and ment on the working of Engineering Company the Bharat Brakes and Limited, Patna. for the Valves Limited, Cal­ year 1984-85. cutta, for the year 1983-84. (ii) Annual Report of the Bharat Wagon and (ii) Annual Report of the Engineering Company Bharat Brakes and Va)· PHALGUNA '6, {907 (SAttA)

yes Limited, Calcutta, on the working of the Auto­ for the year 1983-84 motive Research Association along with Audited of India, Pune, for the year Accounts and the com­ 1984-85. ments of the Com­ [Placed in Library. See No. ptroller and Auditor LT-J990/86.] General thereon. [Placed in Library. See (6) 0) A copy of the Annual Report No. LT-1987/86] (Hindi and English versions) of the Central Machine Tool 0) (i) A statement regarding Institute, Bangalore, for the Review by the Govern­ year 1984-85 along with ment on the working of Audited Accounts. the Jessop and Company Limited, Calcutta, for (ii) A statement (Hindi and the year 1984-85. English versions) regarding Review by the Government (ii) Annual Report of the on the working of the Central Je~sop and Company Machine Tool Institute, Linlited Calcutta, for Banga)ore, for the year the year 1984-85 along 1984-85. with Audited Accounts [Placed in Library. See No. and the comments of LT-1991/86.] the Comptroller and Auditor General there­ (7) (i) A Copy of the Annual on. . Report (Hindi and English versions) of the Indian Ply­ (3) Three Statements (Hindi and wood Industries Research English versions) showing reasons Institute, Bangalore, for the for delay in laying the papers year 1984-85 along with mentioned at (h) to (j) to item Audited Accounts. (2) above. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- (ii) A statement (Hindi and Eng­ 1988/86.] lish versions) regarding Review by the Government (4) A copy of the Annual Report on the working of the Indian (Hindi and English versions) of Plywood Industries Research the Controller General of Institute, Bangalore, for the Patents, Designs and Trade Marks year 1984-85. for the year 1984-85 under section [Placed in Library. See No. 126 of the Trade and Merchandise LT-1992/86.] Marks Act, 1958. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 1989/86.] Review on and Annual Report Gf Smith Stanistreet Pharmaceuticals Ltd., (5) (i) A copy of the Annual Report Calcutfa, for tbe year 1984-85. (Hindi and English versions) of the Automotive Research THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Association of India, Puae, DEPARTMENT OF CHEMICALS AND for the year 1984-85 along PETRO-CHEMICALS (SHRI R.K. JAI­ with Audited Accounts. CHANDRA SINGH): I beg to Jay on the Table a copy each of the following Oi) A statement (Hindi and papers (Hindi and English versions) under English versions) regarding sub-section (I) of section 619A of the Review by the Government Companies Act, 1956 : 291 Committee on Public FEBRUARY 2S, 198~ Undertakings

(I) Review by the Government on 12.09 brs. the working of the Smith Stani­ street Pharmaceuticals Limited, CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER Calcutta, for the year 1984-85. OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE

(2) Annual Report of the Smith [English] Stanistreet Pharmaceuticals Limi­ ted, Calcutta, for the year 1984-85 Reported statement made by tbe official spokes­ along with Audited Accounts and men of a neighbouring country regarding the comments of the Comptroller recent disturbances in India and Auditor General thereon. [Placed in Library. See No, LT- PROF. K.K. TEWARY (Buxar) : I call 1993/86.1 the attention of the Minister of External Affairs to the folloWing nlatter of urgent public importance and request that he may make a statement thereon:

'~The reported statement made by the official spokesmen of a neighbouring country 1208 brs. regarding recent disturbances in India and the reaction of the Government in the COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC matter. " UNDERTAKINGS

MR. SPEAKER : My ruling is ruling. [English] You cannot challenge this. Not allowed.

Sixth Report a nd Minutes SHRI IN DRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat) : Will you ask the two Ministers who have resigned to make Statements? SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY (Krishna­ giri) : I beg to present the Sixth Report MR. SPEAKER: If they want, they (Hindi and English versions) of the can. Committee on Public Undertakings on General Insurance Corporation of India SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: Why the and Minutes of the sittings of the deh1y ? Committee relating thereto. MR. SPEAKER : I do not know. Guptaji, I cannot force them. (Interruptions) (InterruptionJ) SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA MR. SPEAKER: It ib my ruling. I (Bankura) : Sir, there is a convention in have given my ruling. the House.

( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I cannot force them.

MR. SPEAKER: Not alJowed. I have SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE given my ruling. (Bolpur): The Ministers have resigned, ( /lJterruptions) and they have their own .... (Interruptions) The Ministers have resigned. HoW? This House does not know. ~93 Calillf8 Attention PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Calling AttMtlon

SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: The in India the Minister of State in House should know why they resigned. the Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated that the people of Pakistan "cannot r~main' MR. SPEAKER: :Here and now I indifferent to the pligh t of human beings, give my permission to them. No problem. particularly those with whom they share Let them. I don~t deny them this privilege. bonds of religion, culture and family ties". They are welc\lme. Anybody is welcome. Similar statements were made by the And you are also we1come, if you like to Government of Pakistan in its National do it. No problem. Assembly on June 12, 1985, and in their Senate on July 9, 1985. In addition there have also been other objectionabJe state.. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY .** ments. (Interruptions)~ * We have noted with concern the above MR. SPEAKER Whatever Mr. tendency of the Government of Pakistan Reddy says does not go on record at all. in recent years to make unwarranted .. references to and take an unhealthy [ Translation] interest in the minority communities in India. While professing adherence to the Jaipalji, it is no use. It is immaterial principle of non-interf\!rence, these whether the statement is made or not, references cannot but be regarded ac; a. there is also no use of getting ~ gitated. blatant interference in our internal affdirs. (Interruptions). Please sit down, what shall I do if your blood pressure goes high Honourable Members would also recall or you develop SOlne other trouble ...... that in the historic Simla Agreement, (Interruptions) India and Pakhtan mutually agreed that adherence to the principle of non-inter­ [English] ference in internal affairs is a pre-requisite for reconciliation, good neighbourliness and SHRI AMAL DA TT A (Diamond Har­ durable peace between them. While mak­ bour) : Whenever Government wants, they ing a statement ill their National Assembly will bring out some thing .•• (Interruptions)** of Pakistan in July 1974 when the Sadar Bazar riots took place in Delhi, the then MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. Government of Pakistan stated that under the Simla agreement it would be treated as an internal matter. The attitude of the Government of Pakistan is now at vliriance with the earlier stand. CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE The Government of India have on -Contd. several occasions made it clear to the Government pf Pakistan that such state­ Reported statement made by the official ments are contrary to the Simla Agreement spokesmen 0/ a neighbouring country and not conducive to the promotion of regarding recent disturbances ill harmonious and good neighbourly relations. India On our part,. we ha ve ,refrained from commenting on reports of sectarian ripts, [English] denial of democratic rights and restrictioD ~ on freedom of religitl,us worship ~ lJlino- THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL rity communities including the Aiuitedias AFFAIRS (SHRI B.R. BHAGAT): In a in Pakistan even though.. t~ere has ~Il statement made in its Senate on February public concern voiced on these. develop­ 20, 1986 regarding some recent disturbances ments in India and elsewhere. It is" our

*. Not recorded. I'BBR tJAi y is, t986 Calling Attent/on hope that the Government of Pakistan will think-tank, wbo is also by the way tbe tate due nole of these facts and desist Director-General of the Institute of from luch actions which cannot but Strategic Study in Pakistan; and this adversely affect our efforts to develop gentleman, this Gen. Akram Khan-see friendly aDd cooperative relations with how monstrously he distorts the history PatistaD. of this sub-continent that will reveal to us the ugly design of the military janta and PROF. K.If. TEWARY: Mr. Speaker, their attempts to destabilize our country ; Sir. I am happy that the Minister bas whether it is a question of minority or made a categorical statement. On earlier whether it is a question of the terrorists occaaion~, you had allowed 40 minutes; in Punjab. This spans the entire gamut sometimes one hour. and this makes a terrible reading, the statement, the article. I am quoting only extracts from a series of articles from Gen. MR. SPEAKER: You are part and Akram Khan. He says as follows : parcel of the decision ; you cannot violate ),our own charter. "We regard ourselves at the successors of Muslim rulers of India - PROF. K.K. TEWARY: I will confine m)'klf to the points which are directly who, in spite of being a minority, ruled over a large population of relevant to the debate today. I am happy, in the subcontinent. We claim the aa I said, that the Minister has taken a legacy of Muslim Sultans and Emperors very categorical stand about the gross of India and are not about to submit interference of Pakistani military janta in to the pre-eminence of Hindus. If the internal a!fairs of cur country. But Pakistan, as a smaller country, would this is perha~ at variance with tbe recent attempt of the Government of India to not accept India as pre-eminent, then improve friendly relations with Pakistan. the rest of the world was not likely to regard India as such." There have been spate of activities all aJong the line to improve our relations with the neighbours. But. in spite of all This is the thesis ; this poisonous this, Pakistan has been adopting a very thesis, is propounded by rulers of Pakistan stubborn attitude and has been trying to with Whom we have been trying in recent exploit every conceivable problem that we months to have all kinds of relations face today as a country, as a nation. including our offer of a treaty of friend­ ship and cooperation. He further states and the design of dismembering India 12.16 Ian. becomes crystal clear. He says as foHows: [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair] "India is not one country; it bas never enjoyed the unity which is the I do nat blame Pakistan as such, hallmark of a nation state. The people because P~aD is at best a surrogate who can be regarded as being Stat~, a vassel, a Trojan Horse, a caCs potentially separatists are the Sikhs, paw at werst. The people who are egging the Dravidians (the four southern 08 Pakistan; to enpge in this game of States of the peninsula) and the north­ dataBilmna OtIr ccuntry are well-known: eastern p(ople who include the Nagas, aad 1 .oabl1!ave been very happy if the the Mizos, Tripura and Assam." hone Minister would ba \'e revealed the Jinks of Paki~an and the patrons of Again he says as follows: Plldltaa who .have been engaged in all kill. of sucb activities in theit global "If the people of the sub-continent Ittatelic and lae,emoniatic intereat. can comprise two na tions, why Dot three ? Why not four or five or si" 1" Recefltly. f came across a .mrs of .niG1ca written by DO Jon a person than This is tbe real intention of the junta ."" itnp~ mem'- of Zill-\ll... H"q Tul\q in Pakistan. And then, with a 2" CaUing ~ttentlo" PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Calling d!,elllion sense of bravado and a sense of victory, the Indian people is another questioa. he declares, I Quote again: Unity is sometimes more important to the unifiers than to the unified. If "Time is in our favour because less energy had been dissipated in the problems which India is beset in combating the country's natural cea­ the 80s, are becoming increasingly triCugal Corces, perhaps more could difficult to solve, and instead of going have been done to improve the people·, from strength to strength India is going living conditions." from weakness to weakness." Imagine this Satanic-I would say­ He pins his hope on our internal observation of an ex-President of America differences. In this connection, I refer to about the unity of this country! the patrons of Pakistan, the imperialist forces. We in India inherited a divided Therefore, the entire gamut of thinp sub-continent; divisions were created. suggests only one conclusion, that the Animosities as legacy w ere left and what forces of anarchy are abroad. The (orces the patrons of Pakistan sitting in Washing­ of anarchy ha ve been engineered by ton ha\ e been speaking about this scenario, outside forces, by outside powers and this difficult and bizarre scenario on the Pakistan is a surrogete, is a proxy of sub-continent will be clear to us. There American imperia1ism-bccause there is appears to be a convergence of strategic total strategic consensus between the opinion between the American and the Americans and the Pakistanis. Pakistanis. Therefore, all along we have been emphasising that the forces are out I would like to put it to the Minister to de-stabilise us and we cannot forget tbe whether it is not a fact that the Punjab harrowing experience we had to undergo­ Chief Minister, Mr. Bamala bas beeD this nation had to undergo-for the last crying himself hoarse about the Pakistani two years. interference in Punjab. Now, the killiDas of innocent people of Punjab, the lootin. Mr. Richard NixOD, the ex· President of the armoury, forceful occupation of the of America and I hope the members in highest spiritual seat of the Sikhs has the House will look at this situation with been done by a handful of people and behind all these activities is the discerni. utmost seriousness because what Richard ble hand of Pakjstan. Nixon seeks to convey to us is collective wisdom of the American people. It appears that the American administration, and the I would also like to draw the atten. American people have been engaged all tion of the Minister to a similar statement over the world in such ugly games of only recently made by the same destabilisation, murders of political Chief Minister. They have been talkiDl leaders, destruction of the unity of about the Simla Agreement. We should nations, and so on. Mr. Richard Nixon not forget that the author of the Simla in his book, "Leaders" says, and I quote: Agreement was initially taken into protec­ tive custody by the present rulers and he was ultimately haDled. He should Dot "For, as the Shah's comments put so much store by tbe Simla Agreement. , indicated, " While he bas been talkin, of the Sbala Agreement, in MajJis .. e-8bora the Pakistan -he was referring to the Shah of Parliament the same Minister said: The Iran- same Minister has said t~at 'we do DOt finally ruJe out use of force for IiberatJoo "it was no more in the natural of Jdmmu " Kashmir although we coati. order of things for all India to be nue to explore tbe possibilities of aD one country than it was for all Europe amicable settlement in iDternatioaaJ fOIl'. to be one country; Jinguistically, And we are barpinl on the point that ethnically and cuI turally , India is Simla Agreement is all that sacrosaact, but even more diverse than Europe. But Pakistan authorities. in tlaarant violado. Whether this accomplishment bonefited of international DOnna &ad ••ee.eo" Calling Attention FEBRUAR Y 25, 1986 Calling Attention have been tryin& to intern",ionalise every Is it not a fact that after the visit of issue of ~ispute. Zia-ul-Haq to Sri Lanka, there has beon spurt in genocide and terror in Sri Lanka Till recently, Pakistan was fighting an against Tarnilians. And on his return to -undeclared war in Siachin Glacier. You Pakistan a similar wave of terror has been wtre recently in the UN where I was also unleashed in Punjab also. Pakistanis in collusion with their menters, the imperia­ present. r •• list forces, are trying to create problems *' for us. We hdve been aware of this all MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Please along. I do not know why the country is wind up. not being taken into confidence ..•

PROF. K.K. TE\VARY : I am raising MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : What is very important questions. You allow me the clarification you want? to speak. Please listen to nle. PROF. K.K. TEWARY : Two minutes MR. DEPlTTY·SPEAKER: I cannot more. go on listening to you indefinitely. Therefore, in this background, the dis­ PROF. K.K. TEWARY: I would lIke turbances here in the country are the to know from the hon. Minister whether unfortunate legacy of colonial designs, Pakistani authorities have respected this colonial machinations and conspiracy. agreement or understanding. Why was Unfortunately, we are still victims of this the question of Kdshnlir raised in the continuing division among our people. I recent session of the UN Assembly both would like to know as to what we have by the President of Pakistan and its done to isolate such characters, such per­ Foreign Minister? And I do not know sons, such tendencies and such ideas. For · what were the compelling reasons which this the unity of Indian people is impor­ prevented us even from using our right of tant. What is happening in U.P. today? reply. What is happening in Jammu and Kashmir? This is a clear attempt. For the last one Pakistani hand has been discovered year, preparations were underway for from some of the papers recovered liberation of a particular temple. Now t from the possession cf some extremists in in all thIs scenario the hand of Pakistani Tripura. Pakistan is getting involved not authorities, Paklstani Government in only on the question of disturbances on destabilising OUf country becomes very rejigious grounds or on other grounds in important .... (Interruptions). tbe country but they are directly support­ ing the 'Khalistani' terrorists. SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA: Sir, I am on a point of Order. I object to the I would like to know whether it is not words 'liberation of a temple'. It was a a fact that under the covert operations of Masjid there, Babri Masjid, which is being CIA $400 minion are being given to taken over by them. Mujahideen of Afganistan and training camps have been 8t:t up in Pakistan. The PROF. K.K. TEWARY: Did I talk same training camps are being shared by anything about that? I did not refer to Sikh extremists and Mujahideen and the that. Purposely I did not talk about that. 'same level of training is being imparted You are too sensitive and you are pro­ to 'Khalistanis'. Is it not a fact that testing too much Mr. Banatwalla. Pakistan was receiving $3.2 bdlion, now this bas been enhanced to $6 billion, as SHRI G.M. BANATWALLA : You a package for military and economic are travelling beyond the area of the support 1 Calling Attention .... (Interruptions).

• Please enlighten the House about the PROF. K.K. TEWARY : Purposely I "rec~nt visit of Zia-ul-Haq ~ to Sri Lanka. did not speak about that ... (Interrllptions). 301 Cal ling Attention PHALGUNA 6. 1907 (SAKA) Calling Attention 30.2

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now I am have taken this decisior. Y JU go and calling Sbri Chintamani J ena ...... read the rules. (Interruptions) PROP. K.K. TEWARY : I have to put all the questions before the Foreign SHRI O.M. BANATWALLA: You Minister. I have been very categorical are covel1iog such a large ground over in my questions but the kind of impatience there, so many other things, instead of that you are showing ... (Interruptions). restricting yourself to the subject of the Calling Attention ...• (Interruptions). MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : I have been patiently listening to you but be MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : I have brief. That is what I am saying. called Shri Jena to speak. Mr. Tewary, pIe ase take your seat. I cannot allow you ..•.. PROF. K.K. TEWARY : I am very brief. It needs some prelude, some ex­ (Interruptions) planation from the Foreign Minister. In the light of all the questions that I have PROF. K.K. TEWARY: Why you put, I think there should be no hurry in cannot allow me ? reaching any agreement with Pakistani authorities. Recently there has been an MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER : You have agreement in which it is said that India taken too much time. will not attack the nuclear installations of Pakistan and vice versa, as if India was PROF. K.K. TEWARY: How much preparing to launch an attack on Pakistani time I have taken? nuclear installations. The international­ lev.!rage available to us on the mechailisms MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You have of Pakistan is lost in the process if you taken twenty minutes. show that you are over anxious. In spite of all the mounting eviden-;e, we cannot PROF. K.K. TEWARY: You donot go on brushing under the carpet. We have und(rstand the inlportance of this question, to confront this issue because the para­ that is why you are asking like tbis. I am mount question is of national s~curity, its sorry to say this that you are holding the stability. The bigger forces are eng..lged Chair and if you do not understand ...... in destabilising our country. Therefore, (Interruptions). This is not aafu bhanta ka when we speak about Pakistan, we should doom, this is a question of national also speak about all those who hJ.ve been funding Pakistan, who have been suppor­ security .. (Interruption~). ting Pakistan, who have been arming Pakistan to destroy our unity. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You are not specific. You are going on taIsing lot SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA of time. (Balasore) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the hone Minister in his speech has referred PROF. K.K. TEWARY: How much to the Simla Agreement .... (Interruptions). time did I take? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: After the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You have Members have put their questions, the taken fifteen minutes. Minister wjJl reply at the end. He has to reply to all the questions. PROF. K.K. TEWARY: You have allowed people to speak for 50 minutes. PROF. K.K. TEWARY : Sir, this has been the convention in the House .••• (Interrupt ions). MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have not allowed. Why you are saying that? I MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You go have not allowed anyone. This is the through the rules. I may tell you that decision that we have taken recently. We now we have changed the rules. 303 Calling Attenlton FEBRUAR.Y·2S. 1986 Calling Attention

, PROF. K.K. TEWARY : Mr. Deputy PROF. K.K. TEWARY·: You are Speaker, Sir, you would have also seen in forgetting. Never before had we done the Seventh Lok Sabba that the Minister this thing. replies to every Member's questions. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Since MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : You go November it has been going on. It is not a and read the Bulletin Part-II. Now we new thing. In the last session itself it was have changed the procedure, rules and done. Everybody accepted. Mr. Tewary everything. After the questions are raised I don't know whether you were here at by an the Members, finally the Minister that time during the last session. will reply. Even your questions also. PROF. K.K. TEWARY : Numerous PROF. K.K. TEWARY : This is dilu­ Calling Attention Notices were given and ting. each one pu t his question and reply was given to each individual member. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: "There is DO question of diluting. The Minister will MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, Shri take down your questions and then be Jena. will reply. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA : Sir, the PROF. K.K. TEWARY: This will hone Minister in his reply to the Calling result in the utter dilution of the replies. A ttention Motion referred to the Shimla agreement. I would like to draw the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Now, attention of the hone Minister to a news what can I do? This is the decision taken item published in the Hindustan Times on by everyone. 10-2-86.

SHRI G.G. SWELL (ShilIong): Mr. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. Chinta­ Deputy Speaker, Sir, if there has been a mani Jena, you kindly take 5 minutes change in the procedure, we are not only. aware •... (Interruptions). Have patience for one minute. I say, if there has been SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: I am a change .... (Interruptions). If there has taking 5 minutes only. I am putting only been a change in the procedure We should questions. have been informed about it. Pakistan'S Minister of State for Foreign MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Already Affairs, Mr. Zain Noorani said like this. I informed. Every cne has been informed quote this portion. It says: about it.

SHRI G.G. SWELL: We don't know. "Replying to another question, the Secondly, if there has been a change, it is Minister said, the Shim)a agreement did a wrong change. Prof. Tewary has pu t not take away Islamabad's 'right' to raise certain questions. Everybody also will the issue at International Forums.'" have to put his question. In the end the Minister gives his reply. I t means that My hon. friend Prof. Tewary has said his reply to the questions will not be com­ that Pakistan has no respect for the plete ard the whole thing is diffused. This Shimla agreement. I must say that our is not the purpose of the Calling Attention. Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi has I think we should have a change in the extended his hands of cooperation and procedure. friendship to Pakistan but in return what is it that Pakistan is doing? They have MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : In the no respect for the Shimla agreement. Now, last session itself it was done. It is not a what is the attitude of this Government in new thing. Last session itself it was this respect? I would like to know .this. cbansed, May I know from the hOD. Minister 305 Call11l.8 Attention PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Calling Attention categorically whether our Government bas say that in respect of all these communal protested against this unwarranted action riots etc. there is a hand of the Pakistan of Pakistan through diplomatic channels? Government and the Pakistani people. In If so, when, and what is the reaction of support of this, the Pdkistan Government the Pakistan Government? is training the extremists and also sending thenl to our country where they are crea­ Regarding communal riots etc., I must ting communal disturbances. In this con­ say that these disturbances are being nection, m:lY I know from the hone instigated by the Pakistan Government. I Minister what our Government is going to am just quoting what has appeared in do to counter these types of actions of the several national newspapers of Delhi. It Pakistal Government? appears that Pakistan's actions are being ignored by our Government. I will quote [ Trallslatioll] from the newspaper Hindustan Times d~lted 2nd February, 1986. It has appeared o!11y DR. O.S. RAJHANS (Jhanjharpur): a fortnight back. The he.lding is : Mr. Deputy Speaker, I have to say many things but as you are a1lowing me quite "Pak. blue-print for anarchy in short tilne, I would mention two or three Punjab. " And then it says: points. There is a proverb in English-

"A top Colonel of the Pc.lkistan Army [English] has prepared a bluc-print for spreading anarchy in Punjo.lb, to be followed by One step forwdrd, two steps backw~rd. direct intervention by the PakIstan Army."

So many other things are there. The [Translation] hon. Deputy-Speaker will not allow me to speak more. But this is another thing There J" cr.e more which goes like which I quote from Hindustan Times dated this- 2nd February 1986. [English] "The blue-print, which prepared six months back is being implementeJ in Blow hot, blow cold. phases. "

[Translation] But my hon. friend, Prof. Tewary h;:ts already explained as to how Pakistan Pakist,m is doing the same thing. For trains Punjab extremists. Th:s has also the past on e year .... come as a news item in Hindustan Tilnes dated 11th February 1986. Similarly, other news items are also published in the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Indian Express and similar such national This is a Russian proverb. dailies of our country. DR. G S. RAJH A.NS: I do not know So, may I know whether the Govern­ much about it. I am an illiterate person. I ment is aware of this situation? If so, have just quoted the proverb. what is the action taken by the Govern, ment to protest ag~ in~t this before the THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL Pakistan Government? Also. when they AFFAIRS (SHRI B.R. BHAGAT): You have no respect for Simla Agreement, what have a Pb.D. degree and you still claim to is the Government thinking alternatively be illiterate. to face the situation because thes,e types of actions. of the Pakistan Government and DR. G.S. RAJHANS: We have been Pakistan people are creating strained rc­ trying to norm.llise our relations with lations between the two countries ? I must Pakistan for the past OIle year. Discus- 301 Calling AlienI/on FEBRUARY 25, 1986 308

sions have been held at political JeveJ and [Trans/atlon) OfficiaJ level abroad. We were happy to learn that at the SAA RC Conference in I would say there is a vast difference Dacca, the Presid ent of Pakistan had between what Pakistan professes and What expressed his desjre to improve relations it practises. We had thought that relations with India and normalise relations with with Pakistan would improve but it seems other countries of the region. I am happy a far cry. A few days back the Pakistani that when Pakistan President visited India Minister of state Shri Noorani said in the on 17th December, he expressed his desire National Asseni'bly that they would take to improve relations with India. I would up the Kashmir issue in the various like to quote from the Hindustan Times internatiom:l forums and reveal to the dated 18.12.85 wherein President Zia has entire world, the way India is treating said- Pakistan. This statement came despite President Zia's assurance in the presence [English] of Shri Noorani in New Delhi on Decem.. ber 17 that the Kashmir issue and other "In rep]y to another question, issues would be solved in accordance with the Simla Agreement. It WdS a big jolt. Gen. Zia said, the question of terror­ We thought that our relations were im­ ism in Punjab had been discussed and proving with Pakistan but it was not to he had as~ured Mr. Gandhi that be. I have to mention two points in this Pakistan was totally ag:-- inst terrorisln connection. I would like to ask the hon. of any kind and vitiated the spirit of External Affairs Minister about the out­ normalising. come of his talk with President Reagan and Mr. Shultz of America, about the "Asked about Kashmir, Gen. Zia arms aid being given to Pakistan by said that the issue would be solved in America and whether they gave any the spirit and letter of Simla Agree­ assurance to India. ment at an appropriate time".

I would also like to know from the [Translation] Government whether the proposed good­ .. will visit of the hon. Prime Minister in There is a pro\ erb in Hindi which 1986 stands cancelled in view of a change says- in Pakistan's attitude and because of his utterances. It is a major question bccau~e Tere vaade per jiye ham President Zia said during his visit to this To ye joan chhoot jaye country that Hon Prime Minister, Shri Khushi se mar na jate Rajiv Gandhi would pay a goodwill visit to Pakistan in the first half of 1986. Agar aitbar na hoto.

General Zia painted a picture which It is a well known principle in Inter­ indicated that enemity and conflict between national politics that the Government of a the two countries would soon come to an country is considered distinct from the end. Our hon Finance Minister went to people. The American media explained to Pakistan and signed a trade agreement. the American people how President Marcos turned despot and compelled President Reagan not to help him and now he is [English] fleeing PhiHipines. Did the Indian Govern· ment ever try to enlighten the Americans PROF. K.K. TEWARY: But that or Pakistanis about the activities of their Economic Minister was dismissed because Governments? Has any effort been made he was favourable to the agreement and at the diplomatic level to educate the to India. Americans who believe in democracy through the media or Universities that DR. G.S. RAJHANS : Yes, the Minis- . the American military aid to Pakistan is ter was dismissed. apinst their interest? Has any effort been 309 C4Il'", Attention PHA LGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Calling Attention 310 made to remind the 'Pakistani people that SHRI RAM PYARE PANlKA we ate brethren and that their Government (Robertsganj) ~ Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, is trying to befool them 7 So far as the hone External Affairs Minister~s reply communal riots aTe concerned it is really to the calling Attention notice is clear and unfortunate. We have been able to check correct and we hav;! come to know of it. Sir, I,would like to say that since Government's opinion in this nlatter. independence Pakistan has become a con­ stant source of trouble for us. We have But, Sir, while agreeing with the tried our best to normalise relations. opinions expressed by hon. Mt:-mbers parti­ After the 1947 conflict with Pakistan, cularly, Shri Tiwari a!1d Shd Rdjhans, I Pandit Nehru had appealed to them to would like to draw the attention of the sign a 'No war Pact' because once both hon Minister to another point. Recently, were one country and the same blood was he said that he was to visit Pakistan in flowing in their veins as well. After the March but due to Budget Session he is 1965 war, this was again repeated in the not going there now. I am sure he would "Tashkent Agreement". Once again in certainly go there and so would the hone 1971 when Pakistan invaded India the same Prime Minister. The situation is extremely • offer was made at the 'SimlJ. Agreenlent', serious btcause on the one hand our but unfortunately Pakistan agrees to it Government and the hon. Prime Minister every time and later on backs out. Some are trying to create communal h.umony people believe that America is at its back. in the country, which has started yielding There are imperiaHst forces which do not results, and on the other h1nd the state­ wish to see India progress. The need of rnent by a Pakistani Minister of state the hour is to realise this and convey it to in the P,lkistani Senate at this hour the people of Pakistan as well th:lt th~se has not only tended to deteriorate the imperiaJist forces want to keep both the relations between the two countries but countries in poverty. We have to realise also highlighted a fact which i~ most that both the countries are being forced unfortunate and ridiculous. to spend huge amount on Defence budget which could otherwis e be spent on econo­ Sir, Just now the name of Mr. Shu1tz mic development. was mentioned. About two or three days back, Mr. Shultz had said in a statement Sir, a very serious situation is erupting. that they were requesting Pakistan to It would not be wrong to blan1e the withdraw its armies from the Indiall foreign powers for the riots and other borders and try to reduce their strength as violent incidents in the country. It has far as possible. One fails to understand been observed in the past that in these why on the one hand America gives riots there has always been foreign halJd military aid to Pakistan and on the other we would like to point out to the hon. hand it speaks of giving directions to External Affairs Minister most humbly Pakistan. This is not a single instance that the diplomatic mISSions abroad, which is detrimental to cooperation, trust particularly in America do not ever try and goodwill between the two countries to educate the people in this regard. They but it has often been done by Pakistan. are bureaucratic in their approach. They never want to reveal to them as to what Recently, President Zia-UI-Haq. during India proposes to do in this respect. his visit to this country, had assured that he wanted to follow the Simla Agreement Therefore, the need of the hour is to in letter and spirit. But Sir, there is a wide educate the people of Pakistan that their gap between wrat he professes and what interest lies in friendly relations with he practises. 1 he hon. Minister has clari­ India and not in what the National fied tre sitllation that P~kistrn is trying to Assembly of Pakistan or the Ministers vitiate the relations by issuing such pro­ advocate. vocative statemeQts time and again, where­ as the goverrment of India has never I would like to know what the Irtdian interfered in the interna1 affairs of Pakistan. Government proposes to do in this If one goes through the history of respect. Pakistan one finds that just after 38 years 311 Calling Attention FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Calling Attention 312

of its coming into existence, it was frag­ important issues are not settled, tbe bon. mented into two parts. The entire world Prime Minister and the hon. Minister knows about the deplorable conditions should not go on this tour. I wish to say prevailing in the esrtwhile East Pakistan­ this much only and thank you very much. now Bangladesh-and the policy of dis­ crimination against that part of the country {English] being followtd by the Pakistani Govern­ ment. The result W:1S fragmentation of Pakistan. SHRI B.R. BHAGA T : I am grateful to the hone Members for raising some very crucial questions regarding our relations In view of the above mentioned f,lets with Pak~st:ln. I would like to request the hone External Affairs Minister as well as the hone Prime Shri K.K. Tiwari raised five questions. Minister not to go on the tour to Pakistan First, h~ said why Kashmir issue Was rais­ until the Governn1ent is once again reassur­ ed i;} the UN by Pakistan. (2) Pdkistan's ed by Pakistan that they would not oilly deep involvement in Kalistani terrorists honour the Simla Agreelnent but also the and Pakistan~s continuous effort in tr ..lining trade agreement and the agreemen t on the terrorists and propagating the not attacking each other's places of Kalistanis' philJsophy to destabilise the strategic importar.ce, which they sigped country. (3) The aid package of over 6 here recently, in view of the wide gap biIlilJfl dollar') from the United States of between their practice and profession. The Americll and (4) President Zia's visit to. entire country is agitated over tht;ir Sri Lank 1. behaviour. Our Government is conti"lu­ ously trying to improve relatjons with 1300 hrs. them but, unfortunately, whenever a cordial atmosphere is established a lIon. Member Shri Jena also referred deliberate attempt is made by them to to some of these questi0llS and he asked vitiate it. Sir, the entire world knows that if w ~ h ill n1ade a form 11 protest to terrorist training camps have be:n set up P.lkistan. He has also said th:lt Pakistan in Pakistan. Have they been set up for is trying to foment anarchy in PU!ljab ; he establishing goodwill ? We often cap ur'~ quoted from the Hilldustall Times; this weapons with Pakistani markings from the p~rtai:1s to th._; same suhj~ct-matter which extremists. Recently, the hijdckers WeI e was raised by Prof. Tewari. He also found to be carrying a pistol made ia referred to the extremist activity in parts Pakistan. We would like to give two cr cf Punjab being hc1peJ by Pakistan. He three assurances becau~e we find th_. t also ref~rred to Pakistan's hand in fomen­ Pakistan has be. n indulging in the',c tirg commun.tl riots in India. He quoted activities one after the other for lopg now. some allegations that Pakistan was fomen­ ting communal riots in India. The Indian Government should ask the Pakistani Government to The last two hone Members spoke in assure in unambiguous terms th&t the Hindi and I propose to reply to them in Simla agreement and other agreements, Hindi. The subj,~ct was, more or less, which have been sigped recently, would be the same. Pakistan, he said, is blowing fo:Wowed in letter and spirit ar;d no terro­ hot and eold and one step backward and rist training camp would be run in two steps forward ....• Pakistan which were behind the terrorist activities in this country. What is h,!ppcn­ SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA That is ing in the Kashmir valJey? Tlrrorist referring to the hockey match .• training camps are being run with the help of Pakistan and until an assunmce to this SHRI B.R. BHAGAT : There we are effect is not given, the people would like equal: We ~re quits on that. to know whether the hone Prime Minister would go on the proposed Pakistal1 tour. SI-.: RI G.G. SWELL: Two steps back­ I would like to request that tiJl these w,:rd ... nd OLe step forward. j13 Caliing Altention PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Calling Attent/on j 14

SHRI B.R. BHAGAT : I anl quctirg attend the Joint Commission meetin g bim. He said : one step backward and whIch is held at the Foreign Ministers' two steps forward. level. Last time it was held in Delhi, and noW it is their turo, it is to be held in IsLtmabad, and he asked me to Then he asked what assurance I got come th(re in March. I wrote to him when I visited the USA and in my talks th.lt, for two reasons, it was not possible with the Ptesident and other leaders re­ to :.lccede to his requ'.:~ t to visit in March. garding U.S. ar01S aid to Pakistan. He Firstly, the preparatory work for that and also Mr. Panika said that Lei,her I imp0rtant meeting ell the Foreign Ministers' should go to Pakistan nor the Prime level has nut b~en d:>ne; there are some Minister !_.,hould go ... Sub-Commissions' meetings to be held at the technical level and first those meetings DR. G.S. RAJHANS: I wanted to should be held a rd their report should know whether the Prime Ivtinister would be u vailabl~ 2.t the Joint Commission's be going. I did not SUgglst that be should meetiIlg so that de",jsir ns can be taken at not go. that level.

SHRI B.R. BHAGA T : Another point Stcon~ly I said that the budget session made was whdhlr v.c I" d made .'ny (t PdrJi~'ment has begun or it was about effort at dipklratlc h v_l to cdl cate tLe to begin (bee .. use he v.rt te a few days Americ~,n "nd the p, klqanr pv'pk about back befon: tre Parliamer t session) and I the nature of the regime in Paklstd!'. ean Oldy thInk of visiting after the budget sessIon of Parliament is over i.e., after I think, th(se ,re the qtlLstions th ... t May 7th. 1 here is no c0mmitment, but have been asked and I propose to fl pl) it depends because the Joint Commission to these ... meeting is ~n on-going exercise between the two countries ar.d if the conditions PROF. K.K. TEWARY You will arc good certainly I would like to go. recall, Sir, I had referred to a very senous matter. In the book of Mr. Rllhard PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: It Nixon, the concept of IndLtl1 unit), the WJll ec a pc rt of deficit financing. conccpt of India as a natlon·Slate, has been questioned. A similal lhing h .• s SHRI B.R. BHAGAT : Whose deficit? been said by Mr. Akrum Khan, ._m oHlcial of the P~klstan Government. Tl. se arc PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: His also important and hI! shou1d cl.1.flf' the deficit. position vis-a-vis these also. SHRI B.R. BHAGAT: The question of Prime Minister's visit does not arise at SHRI B.R. BHAGAT: That C(Jrnes the present moment because a lot of things under Pakistan's effort to destabilise India :lre to be done. This visit was conceived and foment otber troubles. as a culmination of the entire process so thLlt at the end when the Peace and Friend­ Before 1 reply to these questil ns, let ship Treaty and the Non Aggression Pact me put the whole question of Indo­ that they have proposed, are finalised the Pakistan relations in a prop,,- r pCf~pective Prime Minister's visit can take place as a and clear one or two misconceptions about mujor historic event of beginning a new the recent initiative that has b(._en taken relations:·.jp betwecn the two countries. ~ to promote friendly relutions with But still we are very v ~ry far away and we Pakistan. don't visualise an early visit of the Prime Minister to Islamabad for this purpose. It is not true that I have decided to go in May. What I said was, Pakistan's India and Pak.istan are right from the Fordgn Minister, Mr. Sahabzada Yaqub beginning trying to build a framework of K.han, wrote to me to visit Pakistr.n in friendly relationship based on mu~ual trust March, in tbo first week of March, to and cooperation and in m~tual interest. Calling Attention FEBRUARY 2S, 1986 ~alt;ng Attention

As you know, we have been rebuffed time They discussed this question. They and again. The first breakthrough was in have agreed on two points. First, not to the Simla agreement and in the Simla resort to force in settling the Sieachen agreement this princip1e Was accepted bet­ glacier problem. It was an important ween two Governments that all questions agreement that even in Defence matters should be settled between the two countries not to resort to force. Secondly, to settle peacefu lIy, through negotiations bilaterally. this question through dialogue and mutual All questions including the question of discussion. Kashmir were there. That was a major breakthrough. Pakistan, on all matters~ Similarly on trade question the Finance accepted t'hIS principle since they had put Minister went there. For the first time their signature on it-bilateralisnl in the Pakistan agreed to open private trade. relationship between the two countries. They were not agreeing to private trade But they have said and they maintain so far. Trade fronl India was totally their right to raise the Kashmir question banned and they agreed to this principle in the United Nations or in other inter­ that it will be in the framework of non­ national forums. We have not agreed to discriminatory pattern, that is, the trade that. We have been saying that Kashmir on the basis of most favoured treatment. question also should be solved and can These are some of the bilateral achieve­ only be solved in the same spirit bilate­ ments that have been made but still we rally through negotiations. have to go a long way to evolve a frame­ work of cooperation. With Pakistan we are emphasising let us try to build confi­ Even today. because of this stand, dence among the people and among the may be because of their domestic com­ governments of the two countries. The pulsions they are saying it, but right from confidence building measure is very im­ the beginning they are saying it. Even portant all these questions be said that today President Zia, when he speaks on it, Pakistan is motivated differently: Pakis(tan says that Kashmir question will be solved is egged on by certain outside powers in a in the spirit of Simla agreement. The different direction ; Pakistan has certain Foreign Minisier Yakub Khan, when he other evil designs; Pakistan does not wish refers to it, says that Kashmir question good of India and that even it is engaged will be solved in tbe spirit of Simla agree­ in de-stabilising process and it does not ment and in the light of the UN resolu­ stop short of fomenting the trouble when tions. He goes a step forward and the it wants to and, as such, our emphasis ics Prime Minister Junejo, when he speaks, on confidence building measures. altogether rules out the reference to Simla agreement. He says that Kashmir question can be solved only in the context of the The subject-matter of Call Attention is UN resolution. (Interruptions). important because the Minister of State, Shri Noorani, a junior Minister, making an important statement which is contrary to I am putting tbis because they are not the statement made by either a senior only blowing hot and cold; but different Minister or by the President. people speak with different voices. It is their own problem. PROF. K.K. TEWARY It is done on the Floor of the House. It is govern­ In so far as India is concerned, we ment's statement. maintain that only bilateralism, bilatera­ lism, bilateralism C3n be the basis of dis­ cussions and solutions of all problems SHRI B.R. BHAGAT: I am not between India and Pakbtan. (Interruptions). questioning this. I am saying the propriety In the same spirit the agreement was of the junior Minister making a statement signed on 17th December. The six point because this is a matter .•.• agreement Was signed in the same spirit in all respects. For the first time, the two PROF. K.K. TEWARY : The state­ Defence Secretaries met in Islamabad. ments made outside have no value. Calli"g Attent/on pkALGtJliA 6, 19

SHRI B.R. BHAGAT I have said He made a statement there in Pakistan that that in my reply. I said that contrary to we want to build a friendly relationship the statement made by the senior Minister and cooperation, firm relationship. He or even the President in July 1974 while believes in trying to build confidence, making a statement in their national build relationship with this country and assembly of Pakistan when the Sadar after all these two neIghbouring countries Bazar riots tOok place in Delhi, the tben are Hi good hlgh sentiments. But this government \'f Pakistan said that under statement and some other statements go the Simla agreement it would be treated contrary to this point of view. They rs an int("rnal matter. This was the create a wrong climate for proce~sing, in Pakistan Government's own statement. trying to create good neighbourJy relation­ That w~s dn elected AssembJy. This is a ship In Pakistan. semi-elected Assembly. You can imagine that was an elected Assembly and the Another point in this particular connec­ statement made by the President. tion, although a question was askc;-d by (Interruptions). more than one Member, is about Pakistan's involvement in the terrorists activities, I am arguing a sensitive matter. encouraging terrorists. We have been Please don't try to disturb me as the telling them that this is a very crucial chain of thoughts gets broken. I am matter to create motivdtlon, to create a saying that you see the peculiar sltu,Hion. proper trust and confidence. (Interruptions) On account of the lllterrJal pressures in I know we have hard evidence. Pakistan here in the semi-elected Assembly a junior Minister mak&ts a statement that SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: You have the similar matter is not an internal said that you have got hard evidence. matter. Why don't you ask them to hand over those people? Why don't you demand PROF. K K. TEWARY: Then by from them to hand over them back? that logic Zla-ul-Haq is a dictator. He is not e\ten semi-dected. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub­ nagar) ; Have you dema'1ded ? SHRI B.R. BHAGAT Let me complete the POil1t 'hat I "n1 making. SHRl B.R. BHAGAT: They are What I am saying IS that this is a nega­ raining them. They h,lve provided arms. tive factor ..• and other facilities to them and we have mdde it repeatedly known at all levels about this. They have been denying it PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : and they are not dOJng anything. They Mr. Tewary is pre~surising him physi­ have been denying it. But we have told cal1y. them that we have got the evidence and we know about that. But their position SHRI G.G. SWELL : Are you saying is that they are denying it. I have said semi-elected or semi-]jterate ? that this is very important and we know how far you are involved in this and if SHRI B.R. BHAGAT : I cannot use you say that you are not involved, as a very atrocious words. measure of friendly relationship with us, good neighbourly relationship with us, SHRI G S. SWELL: I misheard you. we will know that and as iong as you are

involved in terrvristsf we wiH keep a watch SHRI B.R. BHAGAT: The point I over thenl. This is a crucial matter and urn makll"1g is that this statement is a nega­ this process of friendship will not proceed tive f~ctor and it goes contrary to the further because it is a vital issue. You whole process of confidence building may say many good things openly, but measure and this is a commitment. Now, realJy what you do at the grass-root level President Zia came here and signed this in crucial matter is very important and this agreement, 6 .. point agreement. He made is a matter in which we are very alert and. a statement here. He addressed them: we are aware of the statement by the i19 Calling Attention FEB:kUAR Y 25, 1986 Calling AttentIon

Chief Minister of Punjab, Sardar Barnaia. which they are, and which they deny, we Even in the recent happenings, they see will go by our own assessment, there can­ the hand of Pakistanis there. This is a not be any progress in the peace and serious matter and this will bring com­ friendship with Pakistan. plete]y negative process of friendship. Now, about the American aid package PROF. K.K. TEWARY: What have to Pakistan. Pakistan has asked for yeu dore about that? increase in the economic and military aid to the extent of 6.5 billion dollars. This SHRI B.R. BHAGAT· We can't is the second instalment to begin after broadcast that. We can't do that. Every­ October, 1987. This is before the Con­ thing is possible. Ouly this morning, the gress. In my discussions at all leve]s, Pakistan Ambassador, Mr. Noorani was I have raised this question and the point caned in regard to the statement about I have made is that We know for this matter. We have made a statement, what reasons they are giving aid to protested to them that this is wrong and Pakistan. The American position is that this has been done which is objectionable. they have a feel that Pakistan is seriously We protested that this is going to

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: How long ago have you given evidence of these PROF. K.K. TEWARY: What about seven peopJe? the covert operations of CIA with 400 million dollars support for training of Sikh SHRI B.R. BHAGAT: I would Dot terrorists and mujahidins ? be able to tell you, but apparently some months ago. But they are denying all such SHRI B.R. BHAGAT: Well, we are things. But the point I am makir~g is that concerned with a11 this. I mentioned to we are aware of their involvement. We you about the Am{;rican's perception. To have told them that we are aware of this what extent, diversion of that aid takes and we will judge them by their behaviour place for Khalistan trainees, whether they in this question. If they are not involved, are trained with that fund or with some only then we wilt trust them, not otl)erwise. other fund, it is all immaterial. What is There is no hanky.. parky in this. As long important is that Kha1istanis are trained .a our assessment is that Pakistan is in­ and we have to take care of that and we volved in terrorist activities in Punjab, are alert on that point. 321 Musl;m Women PHAtGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Rights on Divorce) (Protection of Bill

13.25 brs MR. DEPUTX-SPBAKER: Let him move the Bill first. Then you can object. The Lok Sabha then adjourned for Lunch till twenty-five minutes Past Fourteen THE MINISTER OF LA WAND of the Clock. JUSTICE (SHRI A.K SEN): Under Rule 372, I have to move first. Then, if it is opposed, the Deputy-Speak~r would be The Lok "Sabha re-assembled after Lunch kind enough to give you a chance to make at twenty five minutes past Fourteen a statement and then it is for me to make a reply. of the Clock. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE [MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER in the Chair] (Rajapur) : That is a very 'sane' attitude!

BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE SHRI A.K. SEN: I beg to move for leave to introduce a Bill to protect the [English] rights of Muslim women who have been divorced by, or who have obtained divorce Eighteenth Report from their husbands and to provide for matters connected therewIth or incidental The MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN­ thereto. TARY AFFAJRS AND TOURISM (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT) : I beg to move: SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI (Adilabad) : The point which I want to raise is this .... (Interruptions) I (:tm net opposing the "That this House do agree with introduction of the Bill. the Eighteenth Report of the Business Advisory Committee presented to the (Interruptions) House on the 21st February, 1986." MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : I will call MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The those members Who are opposing the Bill qu esti{)n is : one by one and they may make their state­ men ts. Shri Mool Chand Daga ..... He is absent. Shri Saifuddin Chowdhary. Please "That this House do agree with make a brief statement. the Eighteenth R (port of the Business Advisory Ccrnmittee presented to the SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY House on the 21st February, 1986." (Katwa): I oppose the introduction of this Bill. This is a black Bill. The heading The motion was adopted. of this Bill is misleadIng. It says that the Bill is to protect the rights of Muslim women. Actua11y, the Bill is meant for deprivation of their rights. The very 14.27 hrs. heading is a misnomer. This is not at all in accordance with the teachings of Koran. MUSLIM WOMEN (PROTECTION OF On that count, I do not want to go into RIGHTS ON DIVORCE) BILL* detail again because on an earlier occasion when the Private Member's Bill was being discussed in the House I made my views [English] clear and I stand by them. This vcry Bill violates the Preamble of MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri A.K. Sen. our ~onstitution wherein we had resolved that we shaH strive to constitute India (Interruptions) into a secular country.

* Published in Gazette of India Extraordinary Part IT, section 2, dated 2$.3,1986. Muslim Women FEBRUARY 2S t 1986 Rights on Divorce) (Protection of Bill

Now this Bill is the result of that event MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: No. No. when a very good judgment was given by You can circulate it. the highest court in the country, on which certain sections of people from the Muslim SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY : community demanded certain things which But anYWdY, everybody should procure a I cannot call secular. I may call them copy each. Salinl Ali, is he not a Muslim? fundamentalists, but DOW I believe that Qwaz Ahmed Abbas, is he not a Muslim? they are happy to be cal1ed fundamentalists. Then how you decided? I say they are They think that they have something secular. You are not heeding to them. fundamental. The other view may be in nlajority for the time being. Why shot. 1d a secular Govern­ The whole thing is very wror.g, it is ment not surrender to them? This Bill detrimental to our country and it is an violates Article 14 of the Constitution. It affront to the woman community. says: (Interruptions) "The States shall not deny to any

It is derogatory and detrimental to the person equality before the Jaw I or Muslims. And this is going back on what equal protection of the Jaws within we have achieved in our country till now. the territory of India". I believe if those great men of our country who fought for the 1 ights of women and But this Bill clearly takes away the for social reforms were here today, they protection of law from mushnl women would have jointly opposed this Bill. who are very much the citizens of this What had been achie\ ed by scch great country. It contravenes Article 15(i) of the personalities like- Ram Mohan Roy and Constitutjon, which says: Maulana AZ8d will now be demolished completely. "States shall not discriminate against any citizen on grounds only of Now I say this with force that the religion. race, caste, sex, place of whole Muslim community is not represent­ birth or any of them." ed by those people who advocate this Bill. I have great respect for Shri Ansari, Shri This Bill is obviously doing the same Banatwalla and Shri Sait But here, I have thing It discrimin~tes against a particular a memorandu m with me signed by more section. How they are doing it? Because than a hundred reputed Muslim men and they ' .. re muslims. women. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Shri SHRI EBRAHIM SULEMAN SAlT Chowdhary, please be very brief. (Manjeri) : Actors and dancers! SBRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: SHRI SAJFVDDIN CHO\VDHARY: So there is a clear case of discrimination. May be they are dancers. But there is I am speaking on the constitutional secular dance. But you are dancing to grounds .... the tune cf somebody who I say are enemies of our country. I would also like to read (Interrupt ions) out some names .... MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: According (Illterruptiolts) to rules, yeu have to make a brief state .. mente MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: No, No. It is not neces~ary. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: (Interruptions) Now, SIr, it also violates Article 44 of the Directive Principles. So, many years SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: ago, we said that we shall endeavour to Mr. Deputy-Speaker, I want to read out have a uniform civil code. But, this these names, because ·it is a very-very Government is demolishing what we ba ve iml'ortut Bill. already achieved. I do nol want to take 325 Muslim Women PBALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Rights on DbJorce) 326 (Protection of Bill

much time. So many good things seem Which concern-s not only the largest apparently to have been there. The family mjnority community that we have in this will look after. The Wakf Boards, look country, but also concerns all the citizens after, no doubt, when t he husbands throw of this country, whatever religious -deno­ out their wives. They naturally go back minations they nlay belong to. to their family and family looks after. But what provis,ion has been made to take the We have always been of the view that husbands to task who tyrannically and in there shouid be no attempt by the State a pervertl':d ill-manner with such an easy to impose on any religious community, way throw out their wives. A re we think­ something which that community considers ing of the women folk of our country to to be a violation of its personal laws. whom you can just SQy 'Talaq' and they Whatever my personal views on that are talaqed ? They are divorced. Is this a subject may be, we are against possible civil law? I just don't support it. When imposition of something which members you are talking of going to the 21st of that community consider to be a Century, where are you going upto ? violation of their personal law, or divine law or whatever it is. Now, you say the father will lookdfter them. In this way, if the Jaw is made which will encourage that kind of Talaq, There should be some movement for the women folk will be in misery, in reform, for amendment, which should come priInarily from that comnlunity itself. destitution and all t h~ t. Until that happens, any attempt to impose Now, Sir, I remipd they will go back something against the wiJl of that community is bound to lead to all sorts of to tneir parents. The}, won't kill them. No doubt. You don't know that how much difficulties and conflicts which we should money is n.quired to marry away a try to avoid. daughter. They will sell away their pro­ perties for the ~ake of dowry. You have All this hullabaloo has begun with said that dowry will not be there. But in Section 125 of the Criminal Procedure every Dlarriage, the father sells his pro­ Code. But I want to ask whether Section perty and gives money as dowry. What 125 compels any woman-of course it is will happen to that? How much they can a Section which docs not refer to a spend ? That I wan t to know. I remind particular community-or does it force, you that what kind of psychology will or compel any woman of Muslim or of come. I don't want that to happen. But any- other community to go to a court if in the Seventh Century Arabia, they used she does not want to? If she does not to bury their daughters alive. They didn't want to go to the court, Section 125 does like daughters to be born. If any single not compel her to go. A woman may say : torture increases to the women-folk in 'I prefer to be governed by the Shariat. our country as a result of this Bill, what I am not going to go to a court. I prefer will happen. If any more divorces take to go to the court of the Kazi, rather than place, then I will blame you, the whole go to the Supreme Court. ~ How can you country will blame you-this Government. compel her to go to a court 1 So, what is there in Section 12S-Mr. Banatwalla, of If tyrannical divorces increase, then course, wanted by his Bill that explicitly I will blame this Government. the Muslims must be excluded from Section 125. Why? Anyway, now the Government With these words, Sir, I strongly is not, of course., trying to have that, i.e. oppose this Bill and I hope and I request specific exdusioll from Section 125, that sonle sense will prevaJ) still if you because that would not stand the test of withdraw this Bill or do somethiflg that a legal challenge at all. So, they have wilJ not take away the rights of the taken to another device, by bringing this muslim women of our country. new Bill. My objection to this Bill is on 2 or 3 grounds, which I will brie.tly lSHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat) : indicate. I am not going into the merits This is, of course, a very sensitive matter, of this Dil1 just now. 327 Mus!im"'Women FEBRVARY 25. 1986 Rights on Divorce) 328 (Protection. of Bill

My contention is that the Parliament tions (save questions relating to of Ind.ia cannot be, hnd should not be agricultural land) regarding intestate asked to give its support to a pitce of succession, special property of females, legislation which runs counter, firstly to including personal property inherited Articles 14 and 15(1) of the Constitution, or obtained under contract or gift or and which runs counter to Article 44 of any other provision of Personal Law, the Constitution. There are many things marriage, dissolution of marriage, in this country which we have not been including talaq, ila, zihar, lian, khula able to do, or sometimes which we have and mubaraat, maintenance, dower, omitted to do, in keeping w:th those guardianship, gifts, trusts and trust Artic!es. There are rnallY things ill the properties, and wakfs (other than Directive Principles of State Policy which charities and charitable institutions we have not been able to fulfil, or some­ and charitable and religious endow­ times we have onlittcd to bother about. ments) the rule of decision in cases But this is something different. Here, a where the parties are Muslims shall legisl(1tion is being brGught whkh asks the be the Muslim Personal Law (Shariat)." Parliament of India to lend its support to something which runs podtively cbunter This was passed nearly 50 years ago, to these provisions of the COl~stitution. nearly half a century ago, when the c0untry was enslaved by the foreign rules, when there was no Constitution in our We may not alwc.Ys be able l01medi­ country, and this has not been repealed ately to have a Common Civil Code. to this day. This Act is still in force. So, There are difficulties. I undei stand that. either by this being in force or by virtue But the Constitution says that that should of Section f25 of the ~r. P. C., - it does be the direction in which the State should not compel any wornl n to go to a court if move; not the opposite direction. It may she does not want to go. You will kindly re­ take a long time to rt~ch the Common member that even Shah Bano was not divor:­ Code. There may be many difficult ies and ced by her husband in the beginning; in the obstacles. But this Bill a&ks y~u to reverse, beginning, he simply drove her out of the turn round, and not move towards a house; he only chose to divorce her when uniform Civil Code, but to go backwards. she went to the court; when she went And we are asked to vote fer this Bill for maintenance and relief to the court, in this ·Parliament. then he gave her divorce. This shows what the actual state of affairs is. Therefore, I I say that A rricl es 14 and 15(1) are am not,' at the mom ?ot, going into the fundameptal rights which are given to whole question of what it means for the every citizen of this country, Therefor~, right of women of the Muslim community we cannet be asked to do somethirg whkh as we all know and I know very well also is lawless. FOf. that matter, in the ye Ir and I hav~ a Muslim wife for the benefit 1937, Icng before We had the Cor.st ituti011, of those people who do not know; let long before the country became indepen­ them know now, I wish I could have d.ent, there was a statute which has not brought h~r h~re ; she could also teU you been repealed yet by ~1r. Sen He has not a ft:w things. (Interruptions). come before Parliament asking for a repeal of the App1i-:at~on of the Shariat THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Act, 1937. It is still on the St[;tu te Book, MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT AND pas5.t'd by the Btitish in th _ir time. What FORESTS (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): You does the AppHeation of Shariat Act of wBI not be covered by that law. 1937 say? It should S~, tisfy Mr. Banatwalla and everybody else of his way of thinking, SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: No, it If I may just re, d Section 2 pf that A<:t. will not be covered by that law. We are it says: The arpii:alkn of Persor.al Law talking about interpretation of the Divine to Muslims saY6 as follows: Law. You interpret it. Sbe also interprets it. Anyway, forget it. "Notwithstar.ding any custom PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB :H e or US3ee to the contrary, in all ques-. is in favour of her protection. 329 Muslim Women PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Rights on Divorce) 330 (Protection of Bill

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: I am know are bankrupt or s _li1 :-blnkrupt; they objecting most strongly now to what have no money. they are doing. I f you leave things as they are, weB, that js one, tbing. Let the And I do nut want th~t a woman status-quo remain as it is Shariat is there; should have to run after th~ State Wakfs it cannot be changed just now. The Divine Board. Why should she ? Even that Law is there. Section 125 is there which much is not there that any order given by does not compel any woman to go to the the State Wakfs Board should be enforced court. She can be prevented from going through the Court so that she can go to to the court also if somebody wants to the Court with proper dignity and re4)pect. prevent her. It is one thing. But here She cannot run after the Wakfs Board what the government is doing? It is tak­ which mayor nlay not PJy her and makes ing some portion out of the Shariat and her go rounJ and round in circles. incorporating it in a piece of legislation which is to be passed by Parliament This AN HON. MEMBER: The Court will is something which is re~Llly too much. We order. are not going to \ote in favour of provi­ sions of the Pers'jn~! Law. Why should SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: If the we ? Why should allY of these Mus1im~ who court will order, then why not under have issued a stateme.1t today? Are they Section· 125? You do not hke the Court not Muslims? }v11. such ~nd such whom I When it comes under section 125. You only respect very much h the Prtsident of the lIke the court when it comes under Mr. Muslitn League () nd say~ th~y are d ..'IJcers Ashok Sen's n\!w R.ll. Why? and acton. Lu fi ..,t ISl.d11 make a stJ.t~­ ment that thos~ ptople who are actors and dancers are not entitled to call them­ I had an open mind, bec~use for rea­ selves Muslims. The majority of the sons whkh I stated earlier I am quite sympathetic to tn't th(" Muslim community in this country are see minority com­ poor people How many very big capita lists, munity is not givel1 any kind of affront or land-lords and multI-millionaire are there mood to ft:el a griev.lnce l~k-:? that. But among the Muslill1 community in this when I find Mr. Banatwalla-of all the people- wel{~cming this Bill. and other country? Hardly cl hlnd-ful. The ov~r­ people, yo~ see who w~re so whelming nlajority b of poor people And strident that f\111slims must be excluded fronl 125 and then Section 125 WdS mlant specifically they are welcoming this BilJ, naturalJy a to prevent indigence and penury amor g suspicion arises in everybody's mind what women of poor fdmihes who have no means of m.lintena'lee. But here what is is there in it after all, then? What is there in it? Except that th~ husband's 1i lbi!ity being done? These articles of the DJvinc is being got n strict~d as it is not there in Law, the Persona 1 Law ..lfe being incorpo­ personal law ~nd the court to which she rated into an Act. The liability of the will go by the provisions of this law, its husband which js limited in the Personal powers are all restricted, it is put in a Law is to be limited exactly in the same ~trait jacket ; You cannot go beyond way in this Bill only for the period of giving liability for the ;>eriod of Iddat ; "iddat" and in the case of children for there is noth ing new, th~\t is there in the two years. After that, he is free; he has personal h~w. got no liability at all. After th.\t, what is the family of the woman 1" The ~amc peor people. Can you imagin~ Who live in those SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU (Gobi­ poor areas of our cOl.ntry? Their family chettipalayam) : Three months. is going to be burdtned with the liabi1ity of supporting that woman or looking after SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: You can thnt woman; and if that cannot be done, give for three months, a ld if there are then what is the gleat remedy proposed children or a child for two years-this is now? lhe court n1ay make an order also in your personal Jaw. What is the asking the State Wakf Board to maintain new thing? The thing about the Mehar her. Most of the St~te Wakf Bo~rds l the Dower is nothins new. That also we Muslim Women FEBRUARY 2.5, 1986 Rights on Divorce) 332 (Protecti on 0/ Bill

know is fictitious some times. She signs against him. But officially the Govern­ away so man), things at the time' of the ment had nothing to say. They bad marriage. Then what remains there? Go nothing to say. What is the standpoint to the family? That is also strained. I do of the Govern~nt, we do not know. Now not know whether it is in the personal law. .they have come with this Bill and it makes This-I do not know why-the family is it quite clear. something which is not realistic at all in the conditions of the Muslim community A nd then, why was Mr. Arif today. And, putting it on the Wakf Mohammad Khan put in this difficult Boards means that the State Gvvernments position ? Is he not a Muslim? win have to share a big burden. Even if (Interruptions). these are to work at all then the funds of the State Wakf Boards will have to be I want to know, is he not a Muslim ? replenished by the State Governments and no doubt they have got other financial -.~ SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE respon~;b.ujtj-e"S. They cannot be burdened (Balpur) : Is he a d~lncer ? like this. The whok sum and substance of it is, that they, having become panicky and shaky because of the outcry which is SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Is he a going on in the country from the more dancer or an acrobat or what? conservative orthodox and fundamentalist section of the Muslim comlDunity. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Mr. (Interruptions) Gupta, please wind up now.

I charge this Government, they have SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: I say that not consulted a representative cross-section proper consultation has no t been done. even of the Muslim community. The Prime Minister has told us whom they If the Governm -:nt is hell bent on baNe consulted t Certain hand-picked passing this Bill, they should better refer it people brought to thelD with a particular to a select committee; let there be proper point of view only. And then came this witn~sses and their evidence be taken consultation. Why? Why do you not from all parts of the cou ntry. Do flot consult other people in the Muslim rush through sensitive things like this. community who may have a different Because, there will be a backlash also. I view point. If they have a different view may warn Shri Sen. (Interruptions) I point they cease to be Muslims or what? So, I say that proper consultation with the think he should root be more secular than Muslim community has not been done. I anl ! And this thing is being passed off now as though it represents the view of aU the You may satisfy certain section or any Muslim community as a whole. minority community but there is a danger of backlash from somewhere else. So, Sir, this thing should not be rushed what is going on in the country every day? through in this way at aU. Just because The country is being torn to pieces ! Torn there is an agitation outside, just because to pieces ! Torn to pieces by this type of the Congress party has been defeated in conflicts! Do not do some thing which some t'y-election where they have lost the will un leash any communal backlash­ Muslim vote, they are shaking in their communal backlash which you will not be shoes now. able to control also.

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE Please be careful; please be cautious. They are going to lose it anyway. Take everybody into confidence; consult everybody concerned. Do not rush through ; SHRI INDRAJIT G UPT A . ~ One do not stempede, because you have got a Minister had the courage to ·speak and huge majority you can pass any thins you another Minister immediately spoke like. 333 Muslim Women PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Rights on Divorce) 334 (Protection of Bill

Therefore, I oppose the introduction Supreme Court which is bi:'L~i 'g on all the of this Bill at this stClge. High Courts, would b';;coin~ law of the land. SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Harbour): Most of things which needed Now, this Bill has been brought here to be said had already been said. by the ruling party to take advantage of their majority to put b.1ck the clock of It is very strange that the Government progress which this country has been professing to uphold secular forces, has slowly making. Therefore, this Bill is not noW thought it fit to bring a Bill which only discriminatory and unconstitutional would put back the clock by 100 years. but it is also against the law which we bad It is very peculiar that in countries which in this couniry for quite some time. Be­ are predominantly Muslim, they do not cause of wide divel gence of opialion, it is allow this Shariat Jaw. Now, if we h:::ve obligatory on the part of the Government the Shariat Idw alre,dy in the stdtute to consuit everybody -on fliTs matter. The book, L t it be there. Bl.t there is no Prime M~:1i'}ter did pto~~se that no Bill reason why a portion of it should be incor­ would be introduced without having COD­ porated in the general ldw of the country sultations with all the parties concerned. and rushed through. It will be d)~crirnina­ But that has not been done. Not even tory towards those to whom a]JegedJy they the position obtaining io other Muslim are going to give protection, but actually countries has been brought before us. they are going to be deprived of thdr Withou t doing that this Bill has been rights. brought forwdrd.

I protest a~ainst this and I oppose the A lot of hulh:.baloo has been raised introduction of this Bill very strongly. after the Supreole Court judgment on Section 125 ·of thp Criminal Procedure Code. What w'- h, ve missed is that this SHRI MANIK SANYAL (Jdlpaiguri) : is not the first tim~ th. t ~uch a judgment Mr. Deputy Spe ,ker, Sir, I oppose the hac; bern handed ('own from the cot rt. iqtroduction of this Bill. This proposed But for the last ten yeai s or more, such legislation is a sh ..dn\..fll) belr~ yal of the judgments have been there. I hqve here fundamental 1 ights of nlrllio-.!s of Muslim a judgment of Justice B.Lhrul while WOOlen of our country. If this Bill is be was a puisne judge of the Assam High adopted t-y the House, it would le:.\d to Court. He had qur)ted from the Kora'1 the e'1slavement of Muslim women and set By quoting from the Koran he h.ld been back the social progress of our society by able to show thdt in the Koran it is per­ centuries. The clauses in this Bill allow missible to give m~li,ltena lee to the the husband of the divorced woman to divorced wife. Rhymes and verses of the escape his responsibility of m..lintenance Koran are quoted here. Later on, this which is restricted only to the period of learned judge was elevated to the Supreme three months. By introducing the Bill, Court. He resigned as a judge from the the Government has gone back on its com­ Supreme Court. He has been brought by mitment made through the Prime Minister this party to to adorn it. He to the womea organisations and other had given this judgment. He had derived representatives of public opinion, _ that a the authority and co,clusion from the proper discus~ion will b~ h~ld with them Koran itself. Therefore, it shows that on £111 aspe:ts of this problem before the there is a wide differen ~e of opin iO.l even Gov~rnm~nt takes any steps. The manner amongst Muslims. Som~ here say that in which this B~1l has bee 1 h.lstily intro those who have the opposite opinioll t are duced through the blCk dOJr has deprived not Muslims. But can they say that Mr. big sections of Muslim Wv nen fr)m ex­ Bahrul Islam also is not l Muslim because pressing their l"!gitim.lte views on the he has given this opinion? The Supreme question. As such, the i 1trodu::tion of Court may have had the occasion to deal this Bill appeases the m-Jst backward with the case of this type for th~ first tim~ fundamentalist v:eNs and does grave in­ and, therefore, the judgment of the justice. I appeal to the rulin8 part)' to 335 MllSlim WOlMn FEBRUARY 25. 1986 Rights on Divorce) 336 (Protection of Bill rethink this matter and take the opinion reme Court judgement and those who of all sections affected by this problem and are against the Supreme Court judge­ not to be swayed by narrow electoral and ment, this is what the Prime Minister partisan considerations. Therefore, I hhd told. And the day we get those oppose the introdu~tion of this Bill. papers, we get also the draft Bill. Even it has b~en made quite clear by the Minister PROF. MADHU DANDA VATE (Raja­ that they have not drafted the BilJ on the pur): Mr. Deputy Speake., Sir, I basis of the consultations with Opposition, do not want to go into the merits of this they have consulted some scholars. I Bill but I want to make a proposal at the would like to make one point very clear. introduction ~tage itself so that .. (Interrup­ We want to get the issues sorted out after tiolls). this controversy but in sorting them out, I would not like the entire society to face - At~ HON. MEMBER: Why don't­ a confrontation in which any religious you allow Mr. Sh~h'lbuddin to sp~ak? commoDity on one side will feel that actually there is an affront against them and on the other ~idc no women ~hould PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: also feel th,lt allY Bill thJ.t is evolved. will Don't worry. We will mind our own party, do injustice to them. There will be scholars, you manage yours. there will be differ~nt interpretations of Shariyat, there will be interpreta tions of SHRI Z.R. ANSARI Rest assured Islamic Jaw, and ,",fter those discussions that it is fully managed. 2.nd discussions with the Leaders of the OpPo5lition if the Bill is framed, in that PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I case some sort of a ccnsensus can be have seen, Mr. Ansari, how two Ministers arrived at. Maulana Azad, after the speak in two different voices. We will partition of the country, in one of the not do that. .. (Interruptions). While oppos­ BOlnbay Inectings said: ing the Bill at the introduction stage itself~ I want to make some observations and make a proposal which should be accep­ [Translation] table even to the Members of the ruling party. The major point that is miss~d We are afraid of one thing th:lt in the today is that there were two rounds of first instance, there was partition of the talks by the Prime Minister with the country and then th~t of hearts. Leaders of the Opposition and in the last round of talks the Prime Minister had assured us that they will get the position [English] paper prepared where they will give us the Constituent Assembly debat(s, the posi­ The country has been partitioned into tion in various Islamic countries, various two but I do not want the mind and heart interpretations of the personal Jaw and of the scholar to be divided into two frag­ other things brought into the Shah Bano ments and, therefore, we will contribute case and will place" them before us. He our best to see that some sort of a sol ution had said, "Once we are able to provide is found out in which neither a religious you this material, after ten or fifteen days community wi)) feel alienated and, at the we will meet again and will discuss". An same time, no woman will feel, no divorcee assurarce was given to various types of will feel (: ggrieved. Th'it way we can sit deJegations who were both pro-Sh"h Bano tog(ther and try to find out the way out case, anti-Shah Bano case All sorts of and in that case a more acceptable Bill can delegations met and to all cf them the be brol1ght. And, that is the ground; not Prime Mir.istcr had assured that without the ground of merit but the ground of consulting the Oppositicn Leadprs they procedure. But if this particular counsel wouJd not draft and fcnnulate the BiB. was listened to, I am sure, both the sides Even to the women delegations which can agree. As the Prime Minister has went, the Opposition Members who went, promised, the Opposition leaders and those wh9 are in favour of the Sup- various persons can have a discussion and 337 M llllim Women PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Rights on Divorce) 338 (Protection of Bill we can try to sort out the problems and session ; it was 2 or 3 days before the bring a Bill which will unite society and next session. will not divide society. That is why I do not want a hasty introduction of this Bill PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: at this stage. Thank you. Mr. Prime Minister, on the previous day, on the 19th, when you had invited us,­ even on that day your Draft Bill was THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI already printed and it was ready. So, RAJIV GANDHI): May I clarify? I do plea"e do not give the impression that it not want to talk on this but I am clarify­ was no t ready. ing just becuuse Prof. Dandavate mentioned that 1 have promised to do certail) things. SHRI RAJIV GANDHI: Dandavateji, I heard on]y the tail end. So I am sorry please let me finish. that I cannot talk about the first part. (Interrupt ions)

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Order, Tail gives a very wrong impression, Sir ! or~er. Le! him finish. Then you can ask.

SHRI RAJIV GANDHI: I won't ask SHRI RAJIV GANDHI: They are you to repeat the first part! I would just getting very excited. The Draft Bill was like to clarify, without commenting on the not ready on the 19th and I am coming substantive aspect which I might do later to the other point also W.; felt it was tha t I had had two rounds of discussions necessary to try and introduce this Bill with the opposition as a whole sitting last Friday for various reasolls which I together apart from some other talks that have brought to your notice. We have I had in dividuaUy with people. And, after had one other Bill which we brought in­ the last session, we did decide that we well, I will not say quite in a similar Y{ould collect some information which we manner, but in a similar rushed mannec­ would give to the opposition leaders who which was the Anti-Defection Bill. It was were present. Unfortunately I we got a brought in, in roughly the same type of little delayed in giving that information. time-frame. You cooperated at that time I accept that mistake on our part On the and we altered Clauses that you did not other hard, what was decided at the last )ike. I was willing to alter Clauses in oppositi on meeting-I: I remember a right­ this Bill that you do not like. But you was that I W.as told by the opposition were not even tdiking on the substantive when everyone was pre~ent including aspect and we never got round to that. some people from our party, that So, the opportunity was there. I should talk with certain Muslim groups and try to find out what is in their 15.03 hrs. minds. On the basis of that, I talked with a group of Muslim leaders and they were [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] not just obscurantist leaders; they were people from his party, from other parties The exercise of calling the opposition in the opposition. On the basis of those was not just a facade or white-wash~ We discussions and following up from those do want your opinion. We want your discussions, we came up with the proposed inv()lvement and specially on an issue like Blll. Now, I had also suid that I would this when everyone is involved. consult the Opposition before we came up with the Bill. I had invjted the Opposition SARI NARAYAN CHAUBEY to meet me On the 19th for this Bill. It (Midnapore) : There is the Select Comnli­ may be an error on our part that I did not uee. say specifical1y that you will meet me for this Bill. But last time when we had met, SHRI RAJIY GANDHI: I have not we had left 'this open, that we will meet spoken about the Select Committee. I am to discuss this BiIJ before the rlext session. answering a specific point that you made. Now, it was not 10 days before the next Thank you. 339 Muslim Women FEBRUARY 25, 1986 Rights on Divorce) 340 (Protection of Bill

DR. A.K. PATEL (Mehsana): Mr. Artic1e 37 are being violated jn this Bil1. Speaker, Sir, I strongly oppose the intro" As Shri "Gupta has rightly pointed out that duction of this Bill. Actually it was the if a woman in a divorce case seeks redressal duty of hon.· Lady Members of the House under section 125 of the Criminal Procedure to oppose this Bill. Unfortunately they did Code, Sh~riat can prevent her. When she not. is not able to get redressal from any quarter, she is forced to knock at the door SHRIMATI BIBHA GHOSH of justice but now even th~t right is being GOSWAMI (Nabadwip): I anl opposing snatched from her. it. I read in today's 'Hindustan Times' (Interruptions) that the introduction of this Bill will encourage divorce. People would very DR. A.K. PATEL: I will not repeat easily marry again and again and get rid the things told by my hone friends. I will of their wiv~s. only say that the Bill violates Articles 44 and 37 of the Constitution. In tlct. MR. SPEAKER: We nrc not bJnntng there is a directive for a conlmon man ia!;c. clvil code. But instead of framing a . common civil code, we are going SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: This back, as told by my hone friends. I wo\\ld result in additional burden on the request the hone Minister not to be in a fath::r and the blothers of the djv~)rced hurry, but to think about this Bill again woman. and send it to the Select Committee. Thank you. SHRI MADHU DANDA VA TE: It is a fact. [Translation] SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Go and SHRI C. JANGA REDDY (Hanam­ see in Hyderabad how people are being konda) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, Several fl1rced by poverty to go to Arab Countries. Members opposed this Bill at the intrcduc­ This IS happening in Hyderabad and you tion stage itself. Shri Patel, Shri should be ashanled of it. Those who ure Gupta and Sbri Choudhiuy have stated instrumental in bringing this Bill should that this is ultra Vires of the Constitution. also be ashamed of it because so many people- are being sold to Arab Countries as Article 44 of the constitution provides a result of this. An old min of 50 years is for a common civil code. marrying a young girl of 25 y'e:1rs and taking her away while we are mute spec­ tators of the whole show, only because she [English] is poor.

"The .State shall endeavour to MR. SPEAKER: Are your intentions secure for the citizens a unifortn Civil good? code throughout the territory of India. " SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: We should understand that the burden we are going [Translation] to lay on the Wakf Board will only add to the burden on Government and the society. Even after 38 years of Independence we If a woman, divorced by her husband, are unfLble to bring about a uniform civil falls prey to prostitution it would only code in the country. We are in fact moy­ corrupt the society. On the oth -r hand ing backwards. InsteJd of enacting a j f she stays with her father, he will h'.tve unjform civiJ code we are trying to have to divorce his wife in order to support two Criminal Procedure Codes. This is her and if she goes to her brother, his wife very much agaffist the Constitution. The may desert him. In this way Governm~nt Fundamental risbts 8uaranteed under are encouraging them. Instead of a 341 Muslim Women PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Rights on Divorce) 342 (Protection of Bill

Common Civil Code, personal laws are any notice, a Bill of this controversial being encouraged in the country. nature was sought to be introduced. I would like to know what is the great hurry A Mu~lim woman will certainly knock in this. The bon. Prime Minister refers at the doors of justice to get maintenance to a similar haste with which another Bill from her husband after divorce. Shri was passed. Is that the normal procedure Banatwa11a is pursuing this Bill for the for the purpose of introducing and passing last one year. Much hue and cry has been Bills, specially a Bill of controversial raised outside Parliament as well. If nature like this, dealing with personal Government had wished to bring this Bill, laws, when there are several different it cou1d have done it a year ba~k. Two conflicting views about it ? hon. Ministers of the Cabinet spoke at length about this Bill and th<'y expressed UptiI now; the Constitution is there and contrary views. One said that it was articles 14 and 15 are there. The Supreme against 'shariat' and the other said that it Court has said very categorically about is in 2c~orrlance to the spirit of 'Shariat'. the right to life and right to livelihood, The Supreole Court juogeme!"t I;SJ~~ well which are part of [he fU!1d~mcntal rights. intended and therefere it should have The)' are an ingredient of and is inherent been implemented. in right of equality in this country. Who will take recourse to a claim for mainte.. I would like to submit that the nance ? They are those indigent and poor Government should not have brollght this women and poor divorced women. There­ Bill. This is against the spirit of Constitu .. fore, the Supreme Court came to the tion and breach of the Fundamental Rights. rescue of a very handful section of people, There should be no difference between namely Muslim women who Were in finan­ the rights of a Hindu and a Muslim woman cia1 difficulty. Now, this type of haste is living in the same society in this respect. shown in a controversial matter like tbis. This Bill will once again disturb the peace \Vhen the questlen of fundamental rights in the country. I apprehend that divisive is involved, a Bill is being introduced in forces are at work and, therefore, I would this manner, for which no justification is request the hOD. Prime Minister to with .. heir g given. If YOl1 kindJy see the State",: draw this Bill. ment of Objects and Rlasons, the only object and rea)on }OU will find is to nullify Supreme Court decision. A large number [English] of eminent people of the Muslim commu­ nity may be today described in derogatory SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: terms by the President of the Muslim Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is a very sad day that League .... this Parliament is being made a party to the proposed legislation like this which is PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: intended to nul1ify the progressive judge­ One is a Member of the Planning ment of the Supreme Court. Commission ?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Mr. MooI SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Chand Daga is here. But writers, respected persons like Shri Salim Ali who is a Member of Parliament, SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Vice-Chancellor of Delhi University, the He WclS made to remain out of the House Men1ber, Planning Commission, ex-Vice­ when his name was cd11ed. Chairman, UGC, film actors, film script writers, poets, professors and speakers, Sir, there is unseemly haste with (Interruptions) it is very easy to laugh at. which this is sought to be introduced. But for your kind decision. it would have I would like to know from the bon. been smuggkd in on the last Friday, when Prime Ministt'r, is this a matter which will without any item in the agenda, without be decided on party lines'? Is it a matter that item in the list of business. without of partisan coosiderati,?o? What is.this 343 Muslim Women FEBRUARY 2S, 1986 Rights on D/VCtrce) 344 (Protection of Bill

hurry and w.hy don't we find anybody upliftment of women ! This is the sample there ? Why Mr. Ari f Mohammad Khan that We are getting and it is sought to be · is made to keep silent 1 I am sure if passed. This is the provision for the there is freedom of conscience .... welfare of women ! I would like to know' from the Law Minister. I know he is not AN HON. MEMBER: What happened happy. But what can he do? I do not to lady Members 1 know whether the Prime Minister is happy. In his youthful exuberance he might have wrongly read the minds of 'the people. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Whom have you consulted'1 He said that Let there be proper consul ta tion. I ba ve a he consulted even somt!body from Janata, list. We have no personal axe to grind som~ Muslim leaders from Jlnata. But has here. We feel, in a matter like this, a he consulted th~se people? I will give the particular ·decision which was welcomed by names. I believe the hon. Prime Minister a very large section of Muslim and Indian has got it. If he h:ls not got it, we shall give women and Indian people, which was giving him. Has he consulted any of tnem'? to them very minimal rl6h,,~-(ney are not There~~c, this is a nl-ltter which should made Hegums or anything like th~t but a not be rushed through. There is no pres­ minimum reasonable nlaintenance to be tige involved t!1at you must intl oduce it provided to them -noW this mighty to-day_ Why do you mlke it a prestige Government of I ndia, with huge majority, issue? Hold your band have a wid ~r range is tt ying to bundoze a legislation like this, of consultations. Ev~n the Opp0~ition for which even tod;.y a deputation ml!t Mr. Le..1ders are &marting under the justified Spe~ker. They ar~ ~gitating and prote'lting. fe ... ling that they were not given a fully We have got this very simple minim~l opportunity of discus3ion with the Prime right, the right to snrvive, not to beg, and Minister. instead of being forced to beg and to go to her relations, the husband who is responsible is being asked to pay a reason­ The Bill was printed on the 19th It able amount and this mighty Government may be that they have a very big pr\:ss, a of India today, with massive mandate very efficient pr~ss .... about which we are reminded every drlY, is trying to bulldoze a legislation like this. PROF. MADHU DANDA VA 1 E: It It is an unconstitutional, illegal and W.lS printed with retrospectiv~ effect! inhuman attempt on. the part of the Government to push a legislation like this. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: It I do not know who will laugh last on this was printed on 19th February, the dJ.tc issue. Today Mr. Ansari is laughing. fixed for consultation. Therefore, I do not know how much open-ness is there in the SHRI Z.R. ANSARI: It is only I who mind of the Prime Minister and in the wi)) laugh last. mind of the Government. Therefore, I appeal to the Pr.ime Minister and the SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Government and also to the Party and the Members of the Party. Please don't You may think so today bec~use you have got the blessings of the Prime Minister. mortgage your conscience alJ the time on When you will lose tbat blessing, then you an issues. Give your thought. I request will .. know ! I do not wish to be un-pleasant the Law Minister. Ycu please don't press about this matter. \Ve feel the matter of for introduction of this Bill to-day in a land relat·ing to women· should be treated hurry. Please consider it and don't a sort not with any lack of seriousness. To put of sell away your conscience by way of it. very mildly, the wornert of thi<; country appeaseme:lt to the obscurantists. have been at the receiving end for decades (Interruptions) even after independence. Even when there is 36% literacy in th is coun try, women are KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE only 24% literates. They are suffering (Jadar.pur) : What is this, Sir? .... more. There is a Ministry on Welfare. Minfstry is there for the protection and (Interruptions) ~4S Muslim Women PHAtGUNA 6, 1~7 (SAKA) Rights on Divorce) (Protection of /Jill

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: MR. SPEAKER: Listen sometimes. Is she supporting the Bill, Sir? Ha ve you got a licence to shout? (Interruptions) SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY : To-day she must be protected. MR. SPEAKER: I will ask you to witlldraw fr,om the Huuse, if you persist SHRI SbMNATH CHATTERJEE: ** like this. Now I did not hear anything. I \\ ant to know what was the word. I will (Interruptions) look into it. If all of you 4 or 5 members speak, nothing comes to me. SH RI AsDTOSH LAW: This terrn** is unparli: mentary. I know what is the (Interruptions) meaning of it. In Bengali we know what is the meaq.ing. MR. SPEAKER : Please sit down. I will go through the record and see. MR. SPEAKER: Is it unparliamen­ tary? ... PROF. K.K. TEWARY: Sir, he is always in the habit of speaking like this, (Interruptions) using derogatory terms. lIe is always doing like this. Last time he \\ as trounced by' SHRI ASU10SH LAW: It ~hOllld be her in Jadavpur. expuJiged and he should apologise. H;:: is • talking about women alid womcn~s rights (Interruptions) and how can he use such an expression against a woman? SHRI R.P. DAS (Krishnagar): It is only a proverb. It is not unparliamentary. PROF. K.K. TE\\/ARY: He is a very You shouJd know the language. It is not senior n1cmbrc of the House. He must cerogatory. withdraw that expression. He was eloquent (Interrupt ions) about wonlen......

(Interruptions) PROF. K.K. TEWARY : I will never usc such language for a Member of this MR. SPEAKER: Order, order. House. Please show resp~ct to this House .

PROF. K.K. TEWARY (BuxJr) : He . (Interrupti-Olls) is a very senior member of the House. He is talking so eloquently about the rights of MR. SPEAKER : I will look into it. women and this is the expression be is u~ing for a woman here. It is very nasty SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA expression. (Bankura): We, the leaders .of the Oppo­ (Interruptions) sition parties categorically told the Prime Minister not to hurry through this Bill, MR. SPEA KER: Whatever is un· not to introduce this Bill. In spite of that, p. rliamentary, I will go through the records that day~tfie law Minister came' to intro­ and expunge it. Now you please take duce and as we resisted, you did not your seat. allow the Law Minister to introduce the Bill. Sir, in the name of giving protection (Interruptions) to Muslim women, what little right is there in Section 125 Cr. P. C. that is now MR. SPEAKER: My dear friend~ if being tak~n away by passing this Legisla­ there is any unparlian1entary word, I will tion. On Friday, a delegation of Muslim go through it 2nd expunge it. women also met tbe Prime Minister. He (Interruptions) assured them that before introduction of

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the Bill he would consult them. He did [Trans!ation] Dot consult them. They met you today. They told the Sp~aker also about their If you want to consult us, you can do opposition to this when they met him on it right now. But our complaint is that Saturday or Friday. Thlre is also intel1ec­ you have no intention to consult us. tuaIs and other people who expressed against this Legislation.' So, I appeal thn1ugh ) (u, to the Governnlent not to [English) hurry thro~gh, rush through this Bill. TIH:y should withdraw it. If they cannot, You only wanted to put up a show of they can r~fer it to the Joint Select consultation. Committee so that the Joint Select Committee can take opinion of various [Translation] sections of the peop1e and the poor Muslim women who live in the Recently, you evolved a new strategy. viJlages. They could take and coHeet I am very sorry that yo~ consult us 15 opinion of the women. So, I appeal not to minutes or half an hour before when burry through this BiB. every thing is already decided. Then vou invite us. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI (AdiJabad) : Sir, I de not war. t to n.peat wh~t bas. been [English] already said. Only one point I would like to make i.e. regarding consultation. We have just heard the Prime MJnister did not We rush up to your room. consl.JIt the Opposition Leaders on this point. I do not want to go into the [Translation] details but one thing he must realise. On the 21st, when we met him there, we Then you say that decision on these requested him to give us time. Because it things has already been t~ken. When we was only on that day, in that meeting, the raised this point, you said in the House- material was supplied to us, the Bill was also supplied to us. And we requested him to give us time to go through the [English] material which Was supplied to us and suggested that we could meet after a few "No, I WItS not consultitlg ; I was just days. Some people said, "After one infornling you". week". He could have said, ~'An right; you take three days". In any case he [Tra'ls/ation] waited for five days. Who prevented him from consulting us yesterday? If there is THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI a will, there is a way ...... RAJIV GANDHI) : May I speak a few words? [Translat ion)

Had you desired to consult us, you. [EnglIsh] could have consulted us yesterday, you could have consulted today as well or The hone Me rnber is very right that can consult us tomorrow. You might it is now Tuesday and the Bill has been recollect that when you were consulting us on the Anti-Defection Bin, discussion available to Members from Friday, if I was going on the Bill here. r(mem b er corrett Iy. He is also right that I have not caBed the Opposition to dis­ (Engliah] cuss the Bill after that nlceting on Friday_ At the same time I would like to say that, The Bill was being considered and we first, this matter has been .under cODsid~er:a. were meeting in your room and you were tion, not just in the two or three meetings consulting us. we have had with the Opposition, but this 349 Muslim Women PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Rights on Divorce) (Protection of Bill

,has been a matter which-I do not remenl­ consultation must be collectively. ber the date now-for something like ten months has been on the nlind of almost SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI: As I everyone in this country. 1t has not was pointing out, at the tinle whe:l we dropped out of the sky on to cur laps. It were discussing the Anti-Defection Bill, has been a current issue, it h.lS been we were consulted like that. What pre­ debated in the H.ouse, it has been a live vents you from consulting even today or issue for n Io~ng time. And if there was tomorrow 1 That is why, on this ground anything that any of the Members (Jf the only, I have some objection. OtherWise, Opposition had to suggest about the Bill, I have no objection to the introduction of you ar~ absolutely right, yeu had five the Bill at all. days, you could have picked up the tele­ phone and said, "I want to talk about the MR. SPEAKER: The Minister. Bill; can you give me time 1" and I would have given you time. But you have not THE MINISTER OF LA WAND bothered to do that. You are just trying JUSTICE (SHRI A.K. SEN) : Mr. Speaker, to make a point here. (Interruptions) Sir ..

I l'.m just saying this If I had five SOME HON. MEMBERS: Mr. Daga days to ask you, wel1, I had given you the also wants to speak. paper, I hud asked you for a response and you hud not responded; you also had MR. SPEAKER: H is name is not five days to respond) you had five days in with me. which) ou could phone my office and say, ( Interruptions) "Please give us lime; we want to stop this Bil1 immediately, we have valid points SHRI RAJIV GANDHI : If the to stop it". A t no stage have you given opposition, il1dividuaHy or collectively, any substantive ar~ument. has any substantive points to make on this, (Interruptions) we will discuss the points with them and jf we find them relevant we will look PROF.MADHU DANDAVATE: It into them. is a question of sitting r('ur,d the table~ evolving a consensus d'~d SOt til g out the SHRI A.K. SEN: Mr. Speaker Sir, I issue. must confess that I anl nol unhappy that the Bill we are bringing forward bas provi­ SHRI C. 1\1 ~DHA V REDDI: \Vhat ded a platform for the opposition to unite I was trying to poil:t out was this. The together, which is a rarc occurence. Prime Minister w~'s right. It is cnJy now I have learnt that he wants that the PRORMADHU DANDAVATE: He individual leader shou1d approach hinl and is provoki ng more and more unity ! consl!]t him .• SHRI A.K. SEN: As I said, I am very SHRI RAJIV GANDHI.: Either happy that I have been of some assistance individually or as a group; I have no for your unity. But, instead of replying objection. You ju~t h,.ve to telephone to each Member separately. may I anQ ask my office and we will give you summarise the main points made on the time. floor of the House'? The first is un.. necessary haste. I think, Shri Somnath SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI: Now I Chatterjee said unseemly haste. There am a~king, I am requesting: please consult was a waiting of r ine months during the leaders of the Opposition before the which the Bill of Shri Banatwalla was Bill is finally considered. If ycu want, debated on the floor of the House. you can do it HOW itself.

! SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE That wfls not. y.q.ur Bill. That was not Individu~lly. we may gO ~for -djnner, b\lt tqe Government's BiU. 1S1 Muslim Women FEBRUARY 1S, 1986 Rights on Divorce) (Protection of Bill

SHRI A. K. SEN: If you think that labour he has bestowed on the matter in you have closed your eyes and ears during spite of a ~very heavy schedule .... tbese nine months. (Interruptions). I am entitled to .presunle that the House was PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE; He alert and it listened to the debate which· always does it irrespective of the ·poHcy. went on for days and days. And behind the scene the Prime Minister had taken SHRf A.K. SEN: He took personal care to i!scertain the views·of a1most every care in ascertaining the views of the section of the people. community to which this Act is supposed to apply. It is true that the consultation with the Muslim leaders had a priority and was Now that the point is very clear, let given more importance. And it must be us not widen the scope of the Bill. We so. When we are 1egislating on the are dealing with a very limited problem. personal 1aw of a community,. it is our The question of maintaining indigent bounden duty to give priority and impor­ divorced women. tance to the views of that community. (Interruptions). It is the declared pulicy As I have studied the law involved of the Government since the time of with the help of Muslim scholars, we Pundit Jawaharlal Nehru that in matters apprehend that Muslim Law makes bene­ of personal law the views of the commu­ ficent provisions not merely for widows, nity concerned Dlust prevail and the or divorced women, but also for all Government wiJl not nlove until a con­ women. We are now on the subject of sensus had been reached in the community. divorced Wonlen. The injunction is that Tha t remains the policy today and the they are not to be thrown on the streets. Prime Minister declared it in no uncertain But nevertheless there 'are several stages tt:rms on more than one occasion and I in which that problem has to be tackled hope that there wi]] be no doubt about it. according to Islamic injunctions. The That being the policy Sir, we have first is the period during which the woman followed that policy truly and faithfully. still bears the semblance of a connection with her former husband, that is the lddat. SHRI NARAYAN CHAUBEY: If During that period, the hu~band must you speak of the consensus among the maintain her, after iddat if she is bearing community, then you should reintroduce a child of the husband, during the period the Sati system •. during which her pregnancy continues; the same obligation is cast on the husband. SHRI. A.K. SEN: Mr. Choubey is After that period, if she is suckling the always very impatient. Chou bey means baby of the husband, the husband must a person learned in all the four Vedas. I maintain her, until the child is two years never knew that he has become learned old.. Now, what are we to do? Are we in Quranic law also. I am very glad that not to follow the injunction of the Muslim he has now turned his attention from the law on this matter? I am afraid we have Vedas to the Quran. I shall learn Quran to. Let there be no mistake about it. Our from Mr. Choubey next time. secularism does not mean that every man or woman must fol1ow the same creed and faith in the same manner.. The rich cul­ SHRI EBRAHIM SULEMAN SAlT tural heritage of this coph try is due to (Manjeri): You cannot learn Quran from the fact that each community which has him. (Interruptions). become part of our nation bas contributed its own life-stream into the nation a·nd SHRI A.K. SEN: As a responsible they follow their own creed and faith in Government must behave,' the Prime their own way without interference. That Minister and the Government took great is secularism. In other words it means care to ascertain the view of the Muslims. no inquisition, no persecution of persons In this case I must cOlllf"atuJate the Prime in following their own faith. Each' one Minister for the immense patience and· is entitled under Article 2S and 26 to ;s~ . Muslim Women PHALGtmA 6, Ito? (SAKA) Rights on Divorce) 3~4 (PNJleelion 0/ Bill '

fo11ow his-oWn faith and oreed in his own' Co~e that it should not apply to the WBJ. I t does not mean every body must Muslim community in all its rigonr, I do speak the same language, everybody must not think they are very wrong in their pray in the way as if the Shaivites and the demand. Vaishnavites have to follow the same path or that the SHins and Sunnis have to pray SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA (Tam~r in the sa~e manner. (Intenruptions) Juk): What is the argument? There is Please. Please. We have heant' you no argument. enough. This is not the way to under­ stand the pulse ("If a communi~. No SHRI A.K. SE~ : If the hon. Member, spiIJit of 'tolerance or patience is e~hibited does not follow the argument, it is not my by such outbursts. Please have patience. fault. An argument has to be followed It does D('tt appear that you have studied and listened to. the matter. Al1 the issues will be unfolded ( Interruptions) when we put the facts at the time of consideratioh. I think Mr. Chaubey is ta1king about himself. He can only talk about himself: Sir, we have taken a fairly long time (Interruptions) . to understand the matter and our under­ standing is -that the features of the Bill SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: reflect the opinion of the vast majority Mr. Choubcy says why are you committing of the Mus1ims about their own law. It further siJ.ls ? is quite true that about hundl"ed or five hundred intellectuals or quite a large SHRI A.K. SEN: This is what is number of people outside that particular called in legal language ipsi dixit. Mr. list feel in a different way. That mU6t be Chaubey is always for ipse dixit. 1 do not so in a democratic country where each one expect that he will believe what We say. is entitled to interpret his own religion There we are at one. I have never con­ including the Quran. But we have to find vinced myself that he will believe what I the consensus of the lComlnunity and we aiD saying. We have spent a g06d deal have found it in a particular manner. We of time and study on this matter and the do not think we have found it wrongly. charge that we h~ve brought the Bill in Now, the difficulty arises because of hot haste is not correct. The next point intolerance which is being shown by those is about not consu lting the Opposi­ who feel our view is incorrect. This is tion. The Prinle Minister has already what the Bbagwad Gita says: answered the charge. I do not think the charge is correct. They were invited and Jallam; dharrnam na charney pravritti, I know that the Opposition representing Janami adharmam na charney nivritti. the Muslim community has had prolonged consultation. It may be thlt on the I know what is virtue but I do not baJance the Prime Minister has given more want to follow ; I know what is cadharma~ importance to the views of the community but I do not want to stop it. This is the which is going to be affected by this law very essence of intolerance. than those of others.

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Is Now, about women, we have heard a that the official policy of the Congress ? lot.

SHRI lA..K. SEN: Whioh ORe? The AN HON. MEMBER : There is nb oftIclal policy of the Congress is to allow' muslim constituency in this cuantry. You . the veice of dissent in every way. That cannot reflect that you are the only' persdn is the very basis or our Constitution. That representing tbe muslim community. spirit of tolerance which respects the opposite view, oblige'l us to respect the SHRI A.K. SEN : While bringing" view of the Muslim community. About tbis BiU before this House, we have never SeotiOll lZS of tbe· Criminal Procedure thought of any constituency or a vote, Ms.. Musl)m Women

~SHRI SATYA GOPAL MISRA: Court. We are not going into ·the merits. TJaca. why are you claiming that you are As quoted by the Supreme Court, as Aayat speaking on behalf on muslims alone. 241 of 'Surah Baquar' only says, that it it the duty of the virtuous men to: maintain SHlU A.K. SEN: Who said so ~ I do the indigent divorced women. Now, Dot think we have said so. virtuous men means according to the Interruptions) Muslim Scholars the community and [ not r the husband of the divorced woman. Her MR. SPEAKER: No running com­ maintenance is a charge on the community mentary please. It is a bad habit that you as a whole. Therefore, we have provided are developing. that under certain circumstances the duty to maintain indigent divorced woman is SHRI A.K. SEN: All I said was that on those certain members of her family this law was meant to affect a particular and failing them on the community. I community and that community's view think that expI esses also the spirit of must ha\e predominence in our judgement compassion for women under Muslim Law. and that is the way to approach this pro­ With these words, I humbly submit that blem in a secular democracy. the motion should be passed.

Now, Sir, it is said that we have not MR. SPEAKER: The question is : thouaht about women. What we have thought of '1 The whole su bject is a bout "That leave be granted to intro­ divorced women. It is true that we have duce a Bill to protect the rights of not thought of undivorccd women, which Muslim women who have been divorced is beyond the scope of the Act. We are by, or have contained divorce from, not thinking of women in genera). Of their husbands and to provide for coW'se, we are all fond of women either as matters connected therewith or inci­ mothers or as sisters or as wives or as dental thereto." friends, but that is not the subject matter of the Bill. The motion was adopted.

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: I SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Then, I do not think that in a matter like this you am walking out. should make such an observation. (Shri C. Janga Reddy thell·left the House) SHRI SATYA GOPAL MISRA: He is speaking as if he is in a drawing room. SHRI A.K. SEN: I introduce the This is Parliament which is the highest Bill. forum of the country.

SHRI A.K. SEN: There is something like a humour. If that subject is unknown IS.50 hrs. to a particular Member, I can't help it. RAVI AND BEAS WATERS TRIBUNAL Now, Sirt the subject of compassion for women, in general, is not the subject BILL matter of this Bi11 at all. We are on a limited field of divoree of women and [English] their provision for n'laintenance during various periods of their life and cert~in THE MINISTER OF WATER RE­ contingencies which may arise, that is, SOURCES (SHRI B. SHANKARA­ wben during th(se pericds those who are NAND): I bel to move for leave to charged with the cuty to maintaiq them introduce a Bill to provide for the consti­ fail 10 do so, the community has to tale tution of a Tribunal for the verification of tbe charge. This is according to our the quantum of usage of water claimed by understanding of the Muslim law. This the farmers of Punjab, ., Haryana, and IDa" be di1f'erent (com views of the Supreme Rajasthan from the RavJ..Beas system •• Motlers tinder PltALGUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) /lule377 J58

on the 1st day of July, 1985 and the Their backbone is broken. Whenever they' . waters used for consumptive purposes and ha ve to purchase, they have to pay high for the adjudication of the claim of Punjab prices. When they try to sell their pro­ and Haryana regarding the shares in their duce they have to sell a t a very low price. remaining waters. Present rise in prices of products like kerosene, petroleum products and fertili­ MR. SPEAKER : The question is : zers has raised the cost· of inputs of agriculture to a very high degree. Com­ "That leave be granted to intro­ parative rise in prices of rice and wheat is duce a Bill to provide for the consti­ nominal. Other agricultural products tution of a Tribunal for the verification remain at the same level of prices. Due to of the quantum of usage of water the present rise in prices, the agricul­ claimed by the farmers of Punjab, turists are crippled economica11y. The Haryana and Rajasthan from the Ravi­ support price given to agrjcultural Beas system as on the 1st day of July, produc~ is very meagre and it does not 1985 and the waters used for consump­ take into account the risk involved, and tive purposes and for the adjudication the sufferings of the agriculturists who of the claim of Punjab and Haryana have to work day in and day out. It is regarding the shares in their remaining high time that the Central Government waters." raises the support prices of aU agricultural produce by about 25 per cent and save the The motion was adopted. agriculturists from economic disaster.

SHRI B. SHANKARANAND I 15.53 hrs. introduce the Bill. [SHRI N. VENKATA RATNAM in the Chair] STATEMENT RE : RAVI AND BEAS WATERS TRIBUNAL ORDINANCE, (ii) Demand for developing Northel'll part 1986 of Kerala to attract tourist traffic. [English] SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- CHANDRAN (Cannanore) : Sir, the State THE MINISTER OF WATER RE­ of Kerala has high tourist potential which SOURCES (SfIRI B. SHANKARA­ has not been tapped at all. This is most NAND) : I beg to lay on the Table an obvious in the northern half Qf Kerala explanatory statement (Hindi and English which is absolutely cut off from the toutist versions) giving reasobs for immediate map of India. -. legislation by the Ravi and Beas Waters Tribunal Ordinance, 1986. Kerala, with its long coastal line, numerous rivers and back waters, famous tropical forests such as the Silent Valley, the green hills of Wynad with its' rich 15.Sl hra. forest wealth and rare species of anjmais, the temples and places of historical impor­ MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 tance has much to offer to - a tourist. However, the birth place of PC\zha!JSi Raja [English] and Kunhali Marakkar who fought" against alien powers, the place where the Porto:­ (i) Demand to raise support prices of all gucse saHer Vasco-de-Gama first landed iii agricultural produce by about 25 per cent. India, the several forts etc. have laU been ignored by the Tourist Departm4nts botb SHRIK.RAMACHANDRA REDDY at the State level and at the Centre. ~. (Hindupur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, agricul­ turists are facing a lot of hardships due to It is to be noted that the temple aJff$ unremunerative prices for their produce. of Malabar such as The1YGm and Tlaira and ~EBRtJARY 15, i986

(Shri MuUappally RamachandranJ (iv> Need for arraaging adequate supplies of coal to industries and small scale uaits martial arts like Kaiaripayattu will defini­ in Orissa. tely be fascinating to the tourists. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD SETHI (Bhadrak) ~ There is an acute shortage of The best Ayurvedic treatment in the Or. A and B coal needed for industrial country is availabJe in north Kerala and the prominence that this method of treat­ consumption in the State of Orissa. The ment has in today's world should, no total daily requiremen t of Grade A and B doubt, offer an attraction to tourists from coal is of th e order of 82 wagons, which outside. works out to about 2500 wagons per month. This requirement is supposed to be met by the Talcher Collieries of the Coal India Despite the above, it is sad to note Ltd. whose daily production of Grade A that tourism has not even taken shape. in and B coal is about 45 wagons or about this area. It is high time that the Ministry 1500-1600 wagons per month at the most. come forward to develop tourism in this As a result, most of the industries in the part of Kera)a. State have been forced to drastically cut down production resulting in idle capacity. Some ba\e faced closure and more parti-' (iii) Need to set up industrial units in Madbu­ cularly two major units such as the Orissa bani distrid of Bihar' to provide gai.nful Textile Mills at Titagarh, Paper Mill at emplOJ1llent to the local people. Choudwar are worst affected. Industrial production has also greatly suffered in the DR. O.S. RAJHA NS (Jhanjharpur): process. It is high time that arrangements District Madhubani, a part of Mathila to mitigate the position are made. regioD of north Bihar, is very backward industrially. ~lthough raw material such as mango, vegetables, sugar cane, jute, New SSI units set up in Orissa are also rice paddy straw, paddy husk and other facing the problem of getting their require­ aaricultural produce is available there in ment of hard coke from the Bharat Coking abundance, yet in this area no industry Coal Ltd. which is also a subsidiary of the has been set up so far. Coal India Ltd. The Bharat Coking Coal Ltd. has not been able to make arrange­ Formerly a couple of sugar factories ments for supply of hard coke on regular were set up' there but the same have. basis to the new unit, but prefers working remained closed for a number of years. out arrangements on month to month basis, AI a result, a large number of local labour which makes for an element of uncertainty 10 elsewhere in search of jobs. and also may leave voids in the arrange­ ments of mon th to month basis to the handicap and periodical deprivation of the Delicious mangoes are available ht:re new SSI units. It is necessary that supply at a throw-away price. As such, a mango of hard coke to new SSI units on a regular based industry ~n be set up by the Food basis should be made. Therefore, I request a~d Civil Supplies Ministry which can the Government of India to take immedi­ tive employment to a larg~ number of ate and effective steps to save the Small people. Scale Industrial Units from crisis.

Other. iftdustries can also be set up (v) Demand for diverting a few ships from based ~n the raw materials mentioned Cochin, Mangalore and Tuticorin Ports above. , to CalicutjBejpore Port to provide employment to idle workers at J wot.ld, therefore, request the Govern­ the Jatter pOrt. tnent of ttdia to set up induc;trial units in Madhuba'tli district as soon as possible DR. K.G. ADIYODI (Calicut): The 10 that the local people could be provided Calicut/Beypore port is one of the oldest ;;fth ..inful employment. ports in the country. Recently, some steps " '" ' ~ ~ Matters Under !HAlGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) Rale t11

were taken to improve this port especially heads will perish if adequ3te fodder is Dot clearirlg of the silt, etc. arranged for them.

The port is now ready to handle some The Seventh and the Eighth Finance ships whereas it is learnt that the ships Commission had recommended that the are in queue to find a berth in Cochin, Central GoverLment should provide cent Mangalore and Tuticorin Ports. To per cent grant to the States in such unusual provide employment to idle workers, it is circumstances. I, therefore, strongly appeal requested to divert a few ships to the to the Central Government to exercile Calicut/Beypore Port without deJay. special powers and provide Rs. 500 crores as special assistance to the state Govern­ ment to enable then to tackle the famine [Translation] situation effectively.

(vii) Need to take urgent stej)s foJ' timel)' (vi) Demand for financial assistance of Rs. completion or big projects in order to 500 crores to Rajasthan Government to obviate escalation in cost. enable it to meet the acute drought there. SIIRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (Pali) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, due to the deJay in the completion of 23 major Projects pertainiD, SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN to power, coal, steel, cement, Railway, (Barmer) : Mr. Speaker, Sir, this year the atomic energy, the costs thereof have whole of Ra iasthan is facing terrible increased two times and one and a half fanline situation due to in3dequate and time.). A major portion of public uncertain rains. Such famire did not take money is invested in the power projects place in the 12st seven decades. This and a power proj cct is completed in 10 to f?mine is the fourth during the last five 11 years and an irrigation project take as years. many as 20 years for completion. Some of the important projects wbose costs I n all the districts of Rajasthan, out have doubled are two super thermal power of 33,000 villages c bout 28,000 villages, stations at Ramagundum, Furvande Pro­ having a population of 2 crores to 3 crores, ject, Bokaro thermal station, salal project. and also the cattle have beell affected by Dulhasti and Vishakhapatnam refinery the acute famine. expansion projects, MuncJhi, Bioa and Rajmolu coal projects and Namvelli second The state Government had requested power proj ect. The main cause of this for Rs. 580 crores fron1 the Central Govern­ delay is centralisation of important deci­ ment to meet the situation created by sions. The managers are given powers famine. The break-up of this SUUl was­ but this situation is not likely to improve Rs. 350 crores for relief works, Rs. 50 without making them answer~ble. But the crores for protection of cattle wealth, bureaucracy does not wallt to share Rs. 20 crores nutrition programme and its powers and the political leadership Rs. 10 crores for tools, drinking water, also sides with than. It is the Government rigs and tankers. But only Rs. 71 crore~ employees who are responsible for escala­ have so for been sanctioned mostly as tion in the original costs of 23 public Plan advance which is quite inadequate. proj eets. For example, the Nathpa Zhakhari Project is pending fQr the last Since the relief work has been inade­ 12 years. Its estimated cost haa increased quate due to limited resources of the manifold. When the project was drawn in state, there has been a state of starvation 1974, the estimated cost thereof was Rs. at many places. lhere is acute shortage 254 crores and in 1986 its cost was estima~ of drinking water in the desert areas of ted at Rs. 1400 crores. But so far the Rajasthan and this critical period extends project is only on. the drawing board or from March to the 15th of July. If more in the files. people are not given employment, they may fall victim to a number of diseases and The Government have creattd a die as a result thereof. Thousands of ca.ttle Ministry of ProBramme Implell1eQtatiou. FEBR.UARY 25. 1986 Rille 377 Mot'Ns, . Under

~hri Moo) Chand Daga] 16.00 brs.

But its work has not started yet. Efficiency (ix) Need for remedial measures In order to and promptness in the administration are meet the severe drought situation in simply a slogan. So I would like to draw Gujarat. the attention of the Minister for Implemen­ tation to .this jmportant subject. SHRI AHMED M. PATEL (Broach):

, A grave situation has arisen in Oujarat [English] due to drought conditions in a number of districts, especially Saurashtra and North ('riB) Need to instruct the United Bank of Gujarat. It has affected almost ha If the lBdia to Iiberalise its policy in respect of population of the State.. Rivers and tanks tea financing. have dried up. Big storage tanks. dams and reservoirs are fast running out of water. The uncertainty of rains makes SHRI ANANDA PATHAK (Darjee­ matters worse. The farmers in villages are ling): Sir, due to sudden squeeze by the wors t affected. There is no crop and United Bank of India for Tea Financing fodder. Cattle are facing extinction. There for the Season 1986 the fund position of is fear of large scale migration. a large number of tea gardens in Upper Assam, Cachar, Dooars, Tera} and The State Government are doing their Darjeeling is reported to have been adver­ best for the supply of water and fodder. sely affected and as a consequence of They are mobilising tanks and transport which the workers of some of the tea vehicles. They have requested the Railway gardens especially in Darjeeling and Ministry to run special tanker trains. They Jalpaiguri Districts are not getting their have approached the Central Government wages, salaries and ration for weeks for maximum financial aid and supply of together. The vital cultivation works of fodder, etc. tea plantation have badly suffered and the supply of essential inputs have also I urge the Government to immediately been stopped. This situation has caused consider the fol1owing requirements which alarm among the tea garden workers, would go a long way in easing the drought employers and others concerned. Accor­ situation: ding to the changes made in the norms for advancing loan, the United Bank of 1. Railway Ministry make available India has stipulated 25% margin money as many tankers as possible to investment by tea garden~ seeking loan as supply water to drought affected against 15% fixed by other banks and areas as was done in the case of refusing to accept the evaluation of tea Madras in the recent past. stocks made by registered and recognised brokers. The Bank has even refused to 2. Tankers from the Defence disposal allow the gardens of Darjeeling to draw quota be provided to facilitate fonds for the implementation of long term distribution of water. developmental schemes sanctioned by the Government of India for revamping the 3. Enough number of rigs be supplied sick tea gardens stalling all development to tap underground water. works. 4. Huge stocks of category food In view of the above, I urge upon the which are rotting with the Food Government to ask the Bank concerned to Corporation of India be made liberalise its policy and ensure flow of available to the State Government fund for tbe smooth running of tea at concessional rates to meet the gardens. scarcity of fodder.

I also urge upon the Government to s. A team of scientists be deputed make a "tatement in the Rouse in this to look into the problems and roprd. su,gest remedial measures. J~ MOlttllfo/TIumJc. Oft PHALGUNA 6. 1907(SAKA) the Pre,ident'. Addresl 366

6. The State Government have of the , asserted requested the Central Government in several resolutions of the All India for assistance of Rs. 342 crores. Congress Committee, and implemented by tOOOA, assistance may be provided tbe different Congress Governments since te the State Government by 1947. Those are indeed the policies which treating the current drought as a have brought this country from those day. natural calamity of rare severity. in 1947 when We had people in this country dying for Jack of food, to the present position, when we are proud to say that 16.05 hrl. it is a credit to this Government, it is a credit to this nation that We have reached MOTION OF THANKS ON THE a stage where from a condition of poverty, of utter hunger, from a condition even in PRESIDENT'S ADDRESS the '60s when we were living as the saying goes, in a condition of ship-to-mouth, to [English] the present position in which we have a sub­ stantial surplus of foodgrains. We are now MR. CHAIRMAN: Now Shri Eduardo in a position to export these very commo­ Faleiro to move the Motion of Thanks on dities for which are people yearned tbirty the President's Address. years ago.

SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO (Mor­ The policies of the Indian National mugao) : Sit, I beg to Dl0ve : Congress have been reiterated by this Go,ernment They are the same policies "That an A ddress be presented which this Government is carrying on, if to the President in the following I may say so, with greater enthusiasm, tenns : with greater sense of commitment, with a greater zeal and dedication for its imple­ 'That the Members of mentation.

Lok Sabha assembled in thIs I Session are deeply grateful It was the Indian National Congress to the President for the agaIn, which saw to it that our industrial Address which he has been situation, which at the time of indepen­ pleased to deliver to both dence was such that we had to import Houses of Parliament assem­ even pins a.d needles from England and bled together on the 20th other foreign countries, has redched a February, 1986.' " stage today when we are the tenth largest industrial nation in the world, when we In his Address, the President has made are m"king aircrafts, when we make the a very comprehensive assessment of the most sophisticated machinery. Therefore, different spberes of national activity. He we have a situation which is unique, in has really conducted a sort of overview of fact, for any developing country. This has the State of the Nation. And be has parti­ been achieved by the Indian National cularly dealt with the economic, political Congress and the Congress Governments and foreign policy aspects. May I, there­ which have been in power for the last fore, begin with that portion of his more than 30 years, except for the Address where he bas taken most of the intelregnum of three years, to which I time, 'Viz. the economic scene? shaH come later. This is what the Congress party has achieved by going ahead This is also in continuation, as it were, on the path of prosperity and welfare for of the last discussion we bad in this all sections of the people, particularly fot House ; and that has also been on one the most deprived sections, and by going aspect of economic problems facing this ahead on this difficult and narrow path of country. The policies of this Government self-reliance in a parliamentary democracy. over the last one year which the President has, in fact, commended in bis Address These are not mean achievements. are the reiter.tion of the traditioJUlJ policies These a~hievcments have Qot l)eon • Moliqn 0/ Tlaaaks on PEBR UAIl Y 25, 198'6 mhd Eduardo Faleiro] achieved in ,pite of successive; oil crisis ~ which has damaged the entixo world's obt~jned Just by the circumstances economy. but, has particularly damaged of the monsoons and of the wheathel. the economy of the developing I:ountries. lJ is not as if the Green Revolution has This has been achieved in spit; of quota bC(D achieved just because the gods have restrictions imposed on our export and favoured us during some years or some for tha,t matter on the developin, (:ountries ~eason$t or the otber. The Green Revolu­ by the richer countries of the world. These ti9n which has put this country in the things have not been achieved just by world map of agriculture, the Grecn chance; these things have not been llevolution which is studied in every achieved by leaving things to take their single Agricultural University of the own way. How successful ~~ •~n the world, is a miracle in agriculture; and it policy of the Indian National. Congress is studied particularly in the developing \\'hich this government reiterates with great countries as a strategy to be followed by enthusiasm How dangerous it is to deviate aU of them to attain self-sufficiency in from this path can be seen frolb w.hat ~riculture. The Green Revolution has happens from the tragic, disasterous b~n the result of concerted, intensive experience of 1917 to 1980 ..'1 In these years, and systematic effort at building our infra­ as ne,ver before what was the rate of structure and bringing in technology to agricultural growth? In 1979-"80, the the rural areas. opposition parties combined and their rule led destruction to our economy.. What This has been the result, the achieve­ economy they left us on the agricultural ments on the question of foodgrains which growth? It coll~!psed and went down I may say gntphically have incec1sed from to (minus) 4 per cent; the industrial the First Plan in 1950-51 from 15.8 milJion growth collapsed and weot down to tonnes to the present position of 146.2 (minus) 2 per cent. The aggrt8ate growth million tonnes; that is 1984-85 figure. of economy collapsed and went down to This tremendous Sllccess has been achieved (mhUlS) 5.3 per cent. by the infrastructure which the consecu­ tive Con~ress Goverr.ments have built in We had been fortunately, rapidly, this country. reiterating again the policy of the Congress Take irrigation. In 1950-51, in the Party under the stable, dynamic and great beginning of the First Five Year Plan, leadershIp of Smt. Indira Gandhi; under itrlWas of the order of merely 22 6 million her leadc,rship, we were able to recover it hectares which had arisen fantastically and now we have a growth rate which is three times to 60.5 million hectares in of the ord:r of 6.3 per cent; and on this 1984-85. The ferti1izer consumption has trend, on this line, whh the enthusiasm of a history of its own; a history which is this youthful government.J which has the extraordinary and unnlatched anywhere. dynJmism of the youths and yet the We have gone from a paltry 7 million wisdom of the older generation, we have tonne8 in 1950-51 to the present position no doubt that the target laid down by the elf i.2 million tonnes, which is more than Seventh Five Year Plan of about 8 per t.tD .times figure in just 20 years. Similar cent of the growth of the economy, wiIJ is the position, as far as industrial produc­ definitely be achieved. tion is concerned. Forget about 1950; forget about 1947. We were not manu­ What has been specifically acHIeved facturing, as I have said, needles and pins. over the last one year '1 I will riot take Just to go to ) 960-61 which wa~ the begin­ much time, but I may just point out the Bing of the Third Five Year Plan. Taking substantial achievement over the last one the base year as 1970, the value of our year of this government on the economic industrial production at constant prices in front by pointing out at the figures of 1960-61 was just 60 ; the index was 60, 20 some of the core sectors. '1 years ago: within 20 years~ it has risen to 183 4 which is mere than three times; As far as electricity generation is con­ and this has been achieved in spite of cerned, it has risen from 156.6 billion world .. wide recession; this has been units in 1984 .. 85 to 170 billiott'ttnits. J d set M_folf o/fJ'hank8 on \ PBALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAX-A) the hu14elll's AtlllNn :wo

Gas production in millions of cubic leader of this countl"J(, that he dooI 10 "' Jlletres-by the users- has risen from 3,401 the most remote parts of this countryt he in 1984-85 to 3,662 in 1985-86. Coal pro­ goes through mud and slull to .ee how duction in the same period rose from these programmes are being implemellted. 147.44 miNion tonnes to 154.50 million If this type of inspiring, dedicated and full tonnes. These are some of the indicators. of zeal approach of our leadership conti­ What is even \more spectacular and even nues we have indeed very bright days more important for this Government are ahead we have a sense that 'the prosperity the measures taken for the down­ of these programmes will definitely succeed trodden, for the poorest, the anti-poverty to the utmost. measures. It was a tragedy, and an indi­ cation of how much damage a deviation Just to show the manner and the from the Congress policies can do to the efficacious manner in whicn the a1rtj~ economy and to the people of this country poverty programmes have been conducted. when we say that in 1977-78 when tbe I would like to mention the figures wh1el1 Congress Party was voted out of power, were given by the Planning Commission tbe people below poverty line were 48 per and by the Central Statistical Orlanisation cent of our population, below poverty line of the Governnlent of India. being taken as those households with an annual income of Rs. 6,400 in the rural Sir, to take alone the IRDP petfor­ areas and Rs. 67,300/ .. in the urban areas mance in the Sixth Plan the total alloca­ at varying prices, by-just now it was tion in crores, the targets fot 1984-85 was said-by the present prices and figures. for Rs. 1,500 crares and the goals have Forty.. eight percent people were below e)flCeeded the target by 1 766.81 crores, the poverty line when we were voted more, therefol e, than Rs. 300 crores. The out of power. Within two to three result has been in the increased number of years-the gentleman to my right people who come above the poverty line. cries hoarse about the poor-they mana­ One hundred and fifty lakh houseQolds ged to do this for the poor, they managed was the target. That is in the Five Year. i to increase substantially the number Plan, out of which, nct only 159 lakhs of the poor in this country and were ~ctuany benefited, 15 or more than just within three years, when they left 15 lakh were benented oVer and above the 1977 to 1979 or rather from 1977-78 to target. The actuals were in fact. for So'S 1979 80 this figure of the poor people, of more or 165.62 lakhs. Thes;, are speeta~ people below the poverty line rose specta­ cular performances. No doubt, that If cularly from 48 per cent to 52 per cent. this line is taken the objectives COD~m­ It goes to the credit of our Government, plated in the Seventh Five Year PJan will it goes to the credit of the anti-poverty be achieved, that is beyond dou~t is ,pet measures adopted in the Sixth Five Year the performance of the Government at this Plan, that within abcut four or five years moment. the figure of people below the poverty line has now dropped dramatically to 37 The President, for the first time.. as f ) . per cent. These are 1984 .. 85 figures. can recollect, in many years has mentioned. at the very outset of his speech, the ques­ How has all this been achieved? tion of Punjab. I shan like to say here and.. It has been achieved through the t have indeed no doubt that all sectioPs: growth of our etcnomy in general, of the House will join me in applauding that it has also specifically been achie­ the Government of this country for having. ved by the anti-poverty programmes, entered into the Punjab and A$$am the IRDP programme, the NREP pro­ accords. These were acts of major states­ gramme and the programmes which were manship. The Prime Minister, rising instilled and introduced in the Sixth Five above a personal tragedy of immesaurablc' Year PJan to combat the poverty in this dimensions and committing lnore than any­ country. It has not merely been the pro­ thing else to the unity and integrity of this gramme. It has been the implementation country, had entered into 'this historic of the pr('gramme and we must congratu­ accord of Punjab at the time when .the late the 'Prime Minister, the very top prop~s of doom wor>C1 l sayit18 tl\abit in M.tIon ofT"tJIfIb Oil FEBRUAltY 25, 1986

(Shri I!"cdo PaieirG) merely to two parties who were present there, but because there was a third pany would DOt $ucc~ed, that normalcy wou1d there apart from the United Statel leade.­ DOt come back to Punjab. We have seen ship and the Soviet Union leadership. That that a democratic option has prevailed. third party was invisible. Though invisible We have seen that against the prophets it played a major role. Without this third of doom elections in Punjab and Assam party the Geneva talks would not have have been carried out peacefully. taken place. And the third party was indeed the world public opinion-the world It is triIe that the duly elected Govern­ public opinion that wants peace, that world ment of Punjab, the Akali Government, public opinion that wants de-escalation of has been saying again and again that it tension, that world public opinion that .taDds com.mitted to the unity and integ­ wants a future safe for self and for future rit, of this country. It is undoubtedly generation. In building this world public ~ that they did express their total opinion, the Prime Minister of this country opposition to the traitors that go by the along with five other leaders of regionaJ name of pro-Khalistani extremists. It is powers all around the world-some of also true that their performance, the per­ them involved in military blocs-took this formance of the Government in Punjab, initiative of coming with concrete pro­ has fallen far short of their promises and posals of de-escalation of tensions and for statements. Time is inde~d running out peace. The role played by the Prime of Mr. Barnala and AkaJi Government. Minister and the Government of India on Time is also running out for all the politi­ the question of South Africa particularly cal forces who believe that for evesy at the Nasau Conference is very note­ situation there is a democratic alternative. worthy, because many countries are taking a very hard Hne on this issue-countries Time is indeed running out for all of which are not prepared to come out against us who beJieve that there is always a way the odious rascist regime in South Africa, in wltich tbe ballot can prevail over the and against odious rascist system of gullet. apartheid. It was due to the good offices Peace has been said as indivisible. of our Prime Minister in particular that a compromise, a negotiated type of under­ What happens in other parts of the world does affect us, does affect every country. standing was worked at. And then we have the group of eminent people who Today we are living on the brink of a will try to find a peaceful solution to the nuclear holocaust. What does one gain if he tremendous economic progress and 'question of South Africa where we have a great honour for us, and Indian, Sardar political progress if the world is to be Swaran Singh as one of the distinguished "'own up. Nuclear winter is a possibility. members. However, I should think and I In fact, wbat scientists say, it will happen believe that the contribution of this if a nuclear war takes place however far Government over the last one year has from our country. Therefore, it is a been spectacular and unique in the field mattCl' to be commended. Therefore, it of foreign policy, in the field of our is a duty of all of us tt' welcome the relations with our neighbours. Never peace proposals put forth by General before since independence has the sub­ Secretary Gorbachov of USSR and We do continent been free of tension, has this expect and hope that there will be a cons­ atmosphere of friendship or attempt at tru.Ctive and positive response from the friendship prevailed, as at present. Of United States administration to these course, we are having problems with proposals. Pakistan, and situation with Pakistan and The Geneva Conference was a major tbe manner of reaching an agreement with step in de-escalation of world tension. Pakistan is difficult. And it is difficult Much substantial pr>ogress might not have because Pakistan, the Pakistani ruling oli­ achieved, but a dialogue which had been garchy perceives India as a threat which interrupted for a long period of time, has is in existence, a threat not because of its bee. re-started and that itself is a major size, a threat not because of the military adlicl'emont. Tbit" achievement is due not strcnsth of India- because PakistaD DOW 3" Motloll 0/ ThtmTea on PHALOtJNA 6. 1907 (SAKA) the Pre,ident's Address 314 is well armed-India is a threat to are in many respects one. Over the last Pakistan because here there is a secular ODe year this dynamic Government has country, because here there is a democra­ gone ahead with the task of nation.buHding. tic country, and this secular democratic The challenges have been many, the country stares on the face to the Pakistani challenges have been many always in the oligarchy which has been preaching and history of this country, the challenges will trying to convince its peopJe that the continue to be there for five years, for ten countries in the sub-continent have got to years, for a century to come, but what is have a communal element, have got to be important is that the people of this theocratic in nature, have got to be country should be one. It is really authoritarian and dictatorial in character. immaterial whether one belongs to a The Pakistani leadership is baving on its group which constitutes 80 per cent of border a country which is secular, the the population or whether it belongs to a Pakistani leadership is having on its border group that constitutes ten p~r cent or two a large country which is democratic and per cent of population. The question is committed to parliamentary democracy, a not of statistical break up, the question is large country which is respected all over of political, social and national unity and the world. I will mention here that just integrity. Whether we belong to this group in January last, a survey was conducted or that group, whether we profess this at the United Nations to find out which religion or thlt religion or no reJigion, we are the countries that can influence world are a11 equally patriotic, we are all equally opinion more, and the results were United children of Mother India, we are all States, Soviet Union and, immediately in equa1ly loved by Mother India. Nobody the third place, India as the country that should have any doubt about this point is most respected in the world, a country that there are forces at work whose aim is that is most respected amongst the inter­ only to disturb our unity. Religious funda­ na tional community. This is definitely a mentalism is on the rise. ReJigious funda­ threat the Pakistani oligarchy. How can mentalism, one has to be clear, is nothing they convince their own people that a more than a later-day version, a crude and theocratic regime must exists when just more obscurantist version, of Fascism. across the border they have a secular Fundamentalists are Fascists. Fundamenta­ region 7 How can they convInce their lists are Anti-social elements and they must people that a dictatorship and a military be dealt with as such. What is essential dictatorship is a must when just across the to meet the tasks ahead is th3t the people border, for more than 30 years, in the face of this country, irrespective of religion or of enormous problems, we have faired a language or race or region of this country,. parliamen tary democracy? This is the must work together. Let us crystalise threat that they perceive. This is the only unified national energy. Let us not get threat that they perceive from this side of involved in unnecessary confrontations the world. Our responses and our initiatives that dissipate national energy. If we are in the Indo-Pakistani dialogue must be together we shall undoubtedly win, we corresponding, must hold the same dinlcn­ shall undoubtedly build a future full of sions of their reactions, of the statements, prosperity, peace and harmony for our­ of the deeds of Pakistani leadership. And selves and for generations to come. We while we have a measured response in shaH undoubtedly overcome all our these initiatives, we must build bridges difficulties. Thank you. with the people of Pakistan because there is a very large constituency in this country MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: and an equally large constituency in Pakistan, a constituency for peace, a "That an Address be presented to constituency for cooperation, a consti­ the President in the following terms: tuency for friendship between our two countries. We have so many things in 'That the Members of Lok commOD. We have a common history, a Sabha assembled in this Session common cultural heritage and we must be ate deepJy grateful to the Presi­ friends, we must live together for tlIe dent for the Address which he prosperity of both the people who, in fact, bas been pleased to deliver to 315 Motion 01 Thonks on FEBRUARY 2S, ~86 the President's AtMresI 31~ fMr. Chairman] spreading disturbances and violence emanated from that place. The life of the both Houses of Parliament law abiding citizen did not remain secure assembled together on the 20th in Punjab. The economy of the Punjab February, 1986.' " had been fully derailed and it appeared that the fire which had engulfed Punjab -Now, Mr. Zainul Ba'iher to second would prove disastrous but our Govern .. the motion. ment dealt with the Punjab situation with iron hand. The Government [Translation] reluctantly took some strong steps to control the Punjab situation and We had SHRI ZAINUL BASHER (Ghazipur) : to pay a heavy price for it. Our _ popular Mr. Chairman, I rise to support the Motion Prime Minister, Shrimati Indira Gandhi moved by Shri Faleiro. who was not only leader of our Party and country, but was also a great leader of Mr. Chairman, Sir, the President has the world, had to sacrifice her life to reviewed tbe work done by Government sust::lin the unity and integrity of the during the last one year and outlined the country and to restore peace in Punj abo programmes and policies to be followed Shri became a martyr. by Government in the following year. The President has mentioned some challenges facing the country. He referred to those In that atmosphere, the responsibility anti national elements who have reorganis­ was entrusted to a young man. In Decem­ ed themselves to engage in subversive .:t~ti­ ber, 1984 when elections to the Lok Sabha were being held, elections were not being vities ag.. 1inst the country. \Ve kr~ow fully wen that the anti-national elements have held in two states, Punjab and Assam. All always been active in the country. Such these problems posed grave challenges for elements, whether in the guise of politi­ those who lived and believed in democracy cians or in any other guise have always because the two sta tes situated in the far jeopardised the interests of the country. East and the far West of the country were not participating in the elections and that Mr. Chairman, Sir, we remember very their representatives would not be coming well the period betweeu 1971 and 1977 to Lok Sabha. Elections to Lok Sabha were when attempts were made to overthrow the held in December, 1984J at a time when Government through agitations. Although the country faced this chal1enge, the this attempt did not take the form of vio­ atmosphere in Punjab and Assam was lence yet they took to streets to overthrow tense and there was danger to the national the legally elected Government and to integrity and unity of the country. But the demand the resignat ion of the Members people of the country standing like a rock of Legislative Assemblies and of the gave massive mandate to our young Prime Parliament who were elected according to Minister Shri Rajiv Gandhi and the the law and the Constitution and this Congress Party. attempt continued unabated. Between 1980-85 these attempts took a violent turn. This massive mandate was in support At the time of elections in 1980, Assam of the integrity and the unity of the was passing through a great upheaval. It country, to strengthen the economy of the became difficult to hold elections there. country and to take the country forward. When attempts were made somehow to

restore peace in Assam I the situation in Punjab took a serious turn. In Punjab, After becoming the Prime Minister, Shr i Rajiv G,~ndhi said first of al1 be some clements organised themsth e~ on wanted to solve the problems of Assam communal lines [:nd ~tart(d mayhem in an and Punjab in the interest of the nation. unashamed manner. The Cl im behind such bloodshed was to ,,]ie-nate Punjab from the The Prime Minister was the son of that rest of the coun try. mother whose body had been riddled with bullets by the extremists. Bitterness in his A sacred place like Golden Temple hrart was natural. Anybody whose mother . was converted into a f(ift and all activities has been assassinated by some persons ~7' Motion 0/ Tlatmlc, on PlIALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) the Pre,iJent's Address 374 will feel bitter but the Prime Minister in the society with their hard work-be it when he took the reins of the nation in in the field of trade, industry, agriculture his hands, had no such feelings. He was or armed forces. To some of our Sikh determined to mainta_in national unity and brothers who were feeling a little depressed, peace in the country so that the people Punjab (lccord gave them respect and could lead a respectable life. honour.

It was hop ~d t'hat the Punj

IShri Zainu) Basher] Party leader-I do not want to name him, he is also not a Member of this House, parts of the country. These forces are not Prot Dandavate may have objection to it confined to a particu)~r community, they but I would not name him-has are present in all the communities and are threatened ...... adopting different modus operandi. But their (' im is one and that aim is to en­ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE danger the unity and integrity of the (Rajapur) : You may name me if you so country. These forces are present in desire. different forms among our Hindu brethren, Muslim brdhren, Sikh brethren and SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: I have a Christian brt"thren and all these forces great regard for you, but I cannot say so work in differer.t W.1ys. Their main objec­ about the gentleman of whom I am talking. tive is to jeopardize the integrity of the He has threatened to overthrow the present country. The communal tension preva i­ Government through agitations. ling in Jammu and Kashmir today, which at times takes the form of communal riots, AN HON. MEMBER: He also derails should be condemned. Similarly, the com­ the train. munal riots taking place, or being enginee­ red in Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra, Madhya SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: Now, he Pradesh, Bihar and other places should wi]] overthrow the Government. Such talks also be condemned without going into the and threats give encouragement to the matter as to who is at fault. forces engaged in anti-national activities and are harming the unity and integrity of The common man and the rural masses the country. These people were engaged want to live in peace. 75 to 85 per cent in such activities between 1971 and 1977. population in the rural areas belongs to the During this period, they used to talk of majority community but no riots take place overthrowing the Government during their there. The riots are confined to the cities speeches at in Patna. They and some anti·national forces are always did not talk of overthrowing the Govern­ behind these riots. Some forces from ment through ballot box but through agi­ within the country are working to endanger tation, satyagraha, demonstration, sit-in the unity and the integrity of the country and gherao. Can the Governments be and there are some external forces are changed through such means in a demo­ also at work. At the instance of these cracy, Mr. Dandavate ? The Government external forces, the forces within the is changed through the ballot box. country are regrouping themselves to gain strength in order to jeopardize the unity PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: It is and the integrity of the country through saving grace that Gandhiji is not alive, anti national activities. Mr. Chairman, otherwise, they would have criticised him Sir, the President has rightly exhorted the also. countrymen that those who love democracy, n~tional unity and those who stand for SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: Gandhiji national integrity should join hands to never advocated overthrowing of constitu­ counter these forces. But I am sad to say tionally elected Government of your own. that I do not know how much attention On the contrary, Gandhiji adopted our political oppnents will pay to this satyagraha. appeal. I can say that their record so far has been that they have encouraged such SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI forces. (Mandsaur) : You might have seen in the In our country, we have political parties newspapers that th(_' leader has talked which encouraged communal parties and about toppling Prof. Madhu Dandavate communal forces. We have political also. Perhaps, you are not aware. parties and leaders in this country who talk of and try to change tbe democrati­ SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: At least, I cally, constitutionally and legally elected shall be very distressed at Prof. Madhu Jovernmenu through agitations. A Janata Dandavate's toppling. iSI MDtl." 0/ 'rhallk, on ~HALobNA~, 1901 (SAKA) the PnsiJe"t·, Adtlres, ~ai

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: If [Translation] you continue like this, I shall be automati­ cally toppled. We would have been happy had a national party won elections in Assam. The SHRI ZAINUL BASliBR : Mr. Janata Party won elections in Kern ataka, Speaker, Sir, such talk is going on that we did not feel unhappy. they will topple the democratically elected SHRI INDRAHT GUPTA (Basirhat): government t'ftrough agitations and satya­ But your Prime Minister has said that they grahas. The elections are now over. OUf are happy that a regional party has won. party and our Prime Minister were given a massive mandate. Elections are due to SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: The Prime be held in four years' time. You defeat Minister might have said that we welcome us in that election and come to power jf the choice of tce people, but what I want you bave power to do so, if the people to say is that a regional party came into support you, although we know that the power because you w.ere not able to pro­ way they are carrying on their activities, vide an alternative to the Congress Party. they would not be able to come to this side for a long time to come. The people SHRI C. MADHA V REDDI do not support them but still they poke (Adilabad): Are you unhappy that a their nose in all matters. They are also regional party has won ? meddling in the Punjab affairs saying that they were not consulted. After aU, what SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: Yes, I am. is their standing in PUfljab? It is only the I would have been happy, had Prof. congr(ss ar.d the AkQli Dal there. On the Madhu Dandavate's party won in Andbra question of Assam, they say that they were Pradesh because a regional party en­ not consuIH.d. We do consult them and courages the forces engaged in anti­ should consult them but what is their national activities by fanning communalism, standing in Assam? In Assam, it is either linguistic feelings and regionalism. 'Such the congress or the A.G.P. or a third forces get their strength from regional regional party. This rise of regional par­ parties. I do not say that regional par­ ties points to the weakness of the national ties are anti-national parties, I dare Dot parties. say such a thing because they are running the Governments but this much I must say SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY that their activities encourage the anti­ (Midnapore): This is your weakness as national part ies and anti-national forces. well. Mr. Chairman, Sir, today we are facing these challenges towards which the bon. SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: This is your President has indicated. We shall have to weakness. How can we strengthen you? combat these challenges. We love the Should we give you an injection ? unity and integrity of the country utmost and disintegration of the country cannot SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: You be thought of. To sustain our coun~ry's were in power in Assam, how did they unity and integrity, even if all the people came into power? ..... (Interruptions) of India have to sacrifice themselves, they will not hesitate. I want to appeal to my SHRI ZAINUL BASHER : Truly friends sitting on the otber side that" as speaking, the rise of regional parties is an the hon. President bad said, all those indication of the bankruptcy of national people who have faith in the democratic parties. system should join hands and meet the challenge of anti-national elements collec­ [Eng/ish] tively.

SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY : Inclu­ Mr. Chairman, Sir, Shn Sduardo ding the Congress Party. Faleiro has already spoken in detail about the achievements of the Government SHRI ZAINUL BASHER.: No. The mentioned in the Presidential Address. 1 CODIl'CSS Party is a Rashttiya Party. do not want to 10 in those details but 1 Motio" 0/ Tltanks on

IShri Zainul Basher] Mr. Chairman, Sir, OUT ecollomy is dependeat on agriculture. Our Govern­ welcome one thing most, mention.ed in the ment can help the farmers of our country Pre6ideDt~s Address. In the Address the by formulating a long term agricultural detailed Aariculture Policy has been an­ policy. At present, only 20 per cent of nounced. 1 welcome and appreciate it. our land comes under irrigation. If we are able to irrigate cent per cent or 75 per I I ;Sir, It is a country of farmers. III this c.c,ubtry 75 per cent people are farmers. cent land and provide power and fertilisers to the farmers, then they will produce They are et~gaged in farming. There are more than the farnlers of the world. But no two opinions that in the m:1tter of agri­ at the same time, it is also necessary tbat culture cur farmers have made consider­ they are provided renumerative prices for able advancement. In the entire world, Iadia is commended for the miracle achie­ their produce. ved by the Indian farmers. There was a Prices are increasing. At the moment time when in this country the foodgrains I would not like to dwell on this subject were not" produced even to meet the because Railway Budget is due and General requirement of our own people and the Budget is also due. Ti1J the two Budgets English used to go to the American m~:rket with a begging bowl to arrange foodgrains are present~d, I would not like to touch the subject. But this much I know that for the people of India. Now the food­ increase in the prices has been effected grains produced in the sa.me country arc with a purpose and according to the policy sufficient not only to meet the requirements of the Government. For this the Finance within the conntry, but they are exported also: Minister has given some arguments also. . Sir, I remember the position prevailing 17.00 hrs. in 1958, 59 and 60. ~t,that time I was a stu­ d~t of AII~habad_ University. I used to go Today we have to pay attention to the 75 t~ ~y village in Ghazipur di~trict. On my villages also where per cent of the 1i way. there was one Saidpur bazar. ~Q that population of the country yes. In the baplr, drums of molasses used to be kept villages, 50 per cent of the primary schools and 15 per cent of people working in our are without buildings. The children study fields satisfied their hunger by consuming under the trees. We are also to keep in ih, .1 reconect it very well. Nowadays mind that people have to cover a distance the molassts is not used for this purpose. of 25 Kms. to reach a hospital and where J!cople now get proper food. hospitals are available, there are no approach roads. The patients die on the How is it that foodgrains are being way to the hospital. We have tt) think produced in our country in such abun­ about them also. We must consider the datrce 1 The farms are the same, rather the fact tllat we have to take agrjculturaJ burden of population on it has increased. produce to the markets for which roads There has been futthet fragmentation of are not available, transport is nut available land boldings, but the same field gives now and other facilities are not avai1able. We more yield. The farmer has done a mira­ have to provide for these facilities. Mr. cle in this country. Who was behind this Chairman, Sir, if we look at the conditions miracle achieved by the farmer? It was ptevailing in the villages we shall find tha t the G'ovemment of' India. (Interruptions) though we talk of entering the 21st century, The'Congress Government. The Govern­ our villages have not reached even the 20th ment of India provided irrigation facilities, century. We have to accelerate their fertilisers, power to the farmers and in­ progress and make available to them means formed them about the modern techniques of development. We have to step up the of farming, neW varieties of seeds were pace of construction of schools and roads.~ developed and were supplied to the We have to think of taking. them forward farmers. Tllf§' is tbe reason that the food­ speedily. We have developed much and grain' produced' in the country is sumdent we have covered a long distance of develop­ npt only" to meets our own requifement, ment but we have yet to go" miles. A b.\lt we ate tf)'ins to export it also. Hindi poet has said : ~ , I, JIfltit at Udde,lcya _in IuJi wantl has 1:0lD.e, Hum do ,",mare do ••••••••••••••• IIhavtmI mel" tik jtlana, (IIIt,r,upllonl)

KlIt'u pahu"chana us 8eenitt par, };ske SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: The anti­ defection Bill bas cleansed the puWic · life. aage raah nahin. In tbe legaJ field, 'Lolc Adalats t ba've beeD coastituted to provide speedy justice, fiJr Developm<.'nt has no limit, we have Gowrnment employees Tribunals bave still to go miles. For this money and been constituted. A new textile pelicy hal Atsour0e8 !are required. In this perspec­ been formulated so that the handloom tive we have to think of aU the things- with sector gets,lil1ip. A neW education policy a cool mind. The hon Finance Minister is on the anvil. Last year many good has said th~ tt~ b;~s an open mind and his activities were initiated like converting the options are open. Some of our friends in barren land into cultivable land, cleansing the Congress Executive have opposed the price hike and prices have been brought the river Ganges, makinl prog:ess in alle­ viating poverty and industrial growth~ down to some extent. I am hopeful that Shri Faleiro has given details of alJ these a clear picture will emerge after tbe Budget activities. In this way this year has been is presented. a year of achievements and I am fully confident that the coming year will provt Mr. Chairman, Sir, the details of the to be a better year and Government wouW happenings during the year mentioned in show better performance. We shaH march the President's Address show that this has towards development with greater speed been a unique year in the matter of good provided anti-national elements are curbed, and welfare activities. Anti defection Bill la wand order is restored and the partie. was introduced to clean the publk life and backing these anti-national elements be­ to effect improvement in it. One year has have properly and fulfil their duties passed and no defection has taken place. properly. ' ~ Otherwise upto now many Governments would have been toppled and many Mem­ If law and order is restored, in the bers would have defected from this side entire country, we shall maq muoh pr()­ t.o the other sid.e and from that side to gress. With this hope and confidence, l this side. once again support the Motion presented by Shri Falejro on the PresideDrs Afklress. SHRI HARISH RA W A T (Almora) : They come from that side to this side. [English] People do not go from this sid.e. MR. CHAIRMAN: Hon: Members SHill Z~INUL BASHER: May be, present in the House whose ame~ments anytbing_ can happen. (Interruptions) Mr. to the Motion of Thanks have been' Circu­ Reddy, yopr Party has not been elected, I lated, may, if they desire to move their do not know bow you have managed to amendments, send slips to the Table within come here. It seems you have come with fifteen minutes indicating the 81. Numbers the support of TeIlJIu Desam, otherwise of the amendments that they would like to you too would not have come. move. Only those amendments will be treated as moved and a list showing the SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOO­ serial numbers of those amendments treated WALIA (Sangrur) : You should thank the as moved will be put up on the Notice regional parties that they are the cause Board shortly. In case any Member f)Oints of ejection of such people. out any discrepency in the list, be may kindly bring it to the notice of the officer SRI.\! ~INUL BASHER I: You have at the Table without delay. not brought anyone, 'yOU ,have Dot brought even Sbri Subramauiam Swami. SHRI B. A YYAPU RaDDY (Kumool) : The Memben who are present SH1l1 :RAM PYAR.E; PANIKA here may·.., that they are mo... the (llobertlaanj) : it is sood tttat"Sbti lle\l4y aneD4menti. • MR. CHAIRMAN.~ When there is a wrona telecast and broadcast by TV large number, you have to give it in writ­ aD4- Radio particularly in the case of ina to tbe Chairman. Delhi Bandh news OD 10 February, t986 at ~1.30 hrs. 00, T.V. that. the SHlUiE. A YYAPU REDDY : Instead ca1J by opposition parties for Delhi ., 9ur "ldting again and tabling it, I may Bandh failed to evoke any response." .. tbat' I am movinl. my .amendments (2) YIlich ate standing in my name. Please ,I Dote do_. That at the end of the mQtioD, the following be added, namely : MR. CHAffiMAN: You may piea!=e send a slip. "but regret that the Address faU. to mentipn that in recent years news­ SHItI E. A YY APU REDDY: Actually papers, which in the present media we had tabletl them Cllready.. When we world, are the only free instruments of stand up Mid say, it is for them to mark. communication, are becoming increas­ m.Iy costlier because of levies imposed SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI (Adila­ on and hikes in prices of newsprint." bad) : The Office should have prepared a (3) list of those who are moving the amend­ ments. That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : SHRI V S. KRISHNA IYER (BangaJore South) : Sir, I beg to nlove amentlments "but regret that the Address 6fi to 83 for which I have given notice. nowhere expresses deep concern abou t the people losing faith in the judicial MR. CHAIRMAN: Please send a system because of serious delay in slip. Just write it on a slip and send. deciding cases and high expenses

involved therein. U (4) . SHRI C. JANGA REDDY J(H~Aam­ kottda) : I aWD moving my amendmenls 1 to 11. That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : MR. CHAIRMAN: Please send a slip. '''but regret that the Address faBs to mention deep concern about Shri Mtwa Singh Gill. Govern'ment's policy of investing huge sums of public money in public enter­ SIfRI C. JANGA REDDY: I beg to prises and taxing the common man more move: anll more by raising the prices of their products ':again and again without beinl able to run them efficiently:' (5) ~ ~!Tbat a\ the end of the motion, the fQllowina be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the ~ I following be added, namely : "but regret that there is no tDe~tion in the AdQress that the O<>vernmect has failed to carry out "but regret that the Address tile.- ~~ctoral reforms in the year 1985 makes no mention of the Government's al was promised in the last Presiden- reluctant attitude and half-hearted -t..,1 f~ddress." (I), measures to check the infilt~ation of Bangladeshis into India !(hich is a po!itive risk to the ibterrllFand ter­ That at the end of the motion, the ~x nat security of the countty .~t (6) Y6t1oiiiag be added, namely !

Ullut d'e.ret tbat the Add,"S fails ,," tRlAt at tbp end of t~ motieR. the ~o mention any concertt atKnlt tee rNJ9wiq~ addedJ Aamely : "but ,rearet tha t the Address does That at the end of the motion, tbe not mention ab4lut Government's following be added, namely : failuro in honouring its 1983 Agreement with the Delhi University Teacher's "but regret that there is no men­ Association regarding Introducing tion in the Address about the reduction ProfessoJ;s srade ~n Delhi Colleges." (7) in the prices of essential commodities ]ike petroleum products, ricQ, s.ugar, That the en d of the motion, the fertilizers, coal etc. which were ,enha.n­ following be added, na in ely : ced recently." (66)

"but regret that the Address does That at the end of the motion, the not mention about Government's following be added, namely: failure in stamping 0Ut the menace of terrorists in Punjab and other parts "but regret that the Address does not of the country which is being actively mention anything about the implemen­ abetted by the training of terrorists tation of the Mahcdan CommiSsioll in Pakistan." (8) A ward with regard to Maharashtra­ Karnataka border dispute." (67) That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the fo])owing be added, namely: # following be added, namly: "but regret that the Address does not mention about Government's failure "but regret that the Address does in learning and adopting suitable fire not mention about taking up- of the ~ preventing' measures after the Gopal long pending Vijaynagar steel plant in Tower fire in Delhi which has ultimate­ Karnataka." (68) ly resulted in severe loss of life and property in the fire in Delhi's 5-5tar That at the end of the motiQD,' the Siddharth Continental Hotel Oft 24 following be added, namely: 1anuary, 1986." (9) "but regret that the Address does That at the end of the motion, the not spell out any concrete steps for following be added, namely : solving the unemployment problem in the country.n (69) "but reg~et that the Address does Dot take notice of the deep resentment That at the end of t"he motion~ the prevailing among Government em­ foUowing be added, namely : ployees about Government's not taking any positive'step to remove their fear "but regret that the Address does of dismissal from service without being not take note of the wide spread dis­ assigned any reason therefor." (10) content among Government servants, consequent upon the Supreme Court That at the end of the motion, the judgement in the matter of dismissal following be added, namely : of Government servants." (70)

1 "but regret that the Address no­ That at the end of the motioil, the where mtntions the acute sufierings following be added, namely : ' i l and deep agony beioS e)tperienced by people due to severe drought condi­ "but regret that the Address does tions prevailiD~ in certain area.s of not mention about the CODcret~ steps

Rajasthan; Gujaratl Mabarashtr~ and Government proposes to take to iurb Karnataka.~· (11)" · terrorist activities in the counttv.'F (71l

SHRI V.s. ~KRISHNA IV'P.R ~ I beg I That at the 'end of \he m~~o.a,{" f~~ to move: followina be added, Damel)' : itt Motion 0/ Thanks on Fi!BRUAllY 25,1986

(Shri V.S. Krishna Iyer] "but rqret that the Acldre.. does not tab note of the failure of the "but regret that the Address does Government to unearth black moeey." Dot mention about solving Shri (79) Lankan problem." (72) That at the end of the motion, the Thai at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : 1bUowiD'1 be added, namely: "but regret that in the Add.... "but regret that the Address does there is no mention about the danger not mention about soJving the flood and of nuclear war threat en ins humanity famine conditions in several states on a and the efforts made by the Govern­ permanent basis." (73) ment of India to prevent nuclear war." (80) lhat at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: "but regret tbat the Address does not mention about tbe necessity of "but regret that in the Address increasing the sbare of the States with there is no mention about the inter­ regard to various dutiesr,and taxes. n( 74) ference of the World Bank and the I.M.F. in India's economy which has That at the end of the motion, the become more pronounced and that following be added, namely: the World Bank has been demanding abolition of food subsidies and press­ "but regret that the Address does ing for reduction of consumption not mention about making the National standards of the people.'· (81) Development Council a statutory body." (75) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: "but regret that in the Address there is no mention of the establislr .Cbut regret that the Address does ment of Mangalore Oil Refinery and not specify the time when the Fourth the Electronic Digital Trunk Exchange Pay Commission would submit its Factory in Karnataka, which are long report to Government." (76) over due." (82)

That at the end of the motion, the That at tbe end of the motion, the followiaS be added, namely : followiDi be added, namely :

"but resret that tbe Address does "but regret that the Address does not mention about making AIR. and not mention about the need for imple­ Doordarshan as autonomous' bodies." menting the recommendations regard­ (77) ing reservations in Government service of MandaI Commission." (83) That at the end of the motion, the followina be added, namely: SHR.I K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY (Hindupur) : I beg to move : "but regret tha t the Address does not rt'fiect the power-crisis in the country and the steps taken to solve That at the end of the motioDt th the same." (78) following be added, namely:

That at the end of n.e motion, the "but dlret that there is no (o11owmS be added r namely : mention in the Address of any pia to »3 AH.w. ,qTitMhOll PHALGUNJ\ 6. 1901 (SAU) tlte Pre&ident', AMresI ..

iIDPcoV'O the fate of tile people reuding the inequalitiea of income and expo.... in chroaiealb' drolllht affected areas ture among the people in the country." in the country especially in Rayalseema (90)

diltrict& in Andlln Pradesh. It (84) That at the end of the motion, the That at the,end of the motion, the foHowing be added, namely : fellow.. be added, namely : "but regret that thepe II DO "but regret that there is no mention in the Address about .tepa mention In the Address of the total to remove the sickness in industrial apathy and disregard shown in the sector...- and unrest among industrial allotment of funds for meeting ou t the labourers." (91) appaling drought situation prevailing in Anantapur district of Andhra That at the end of the motion, the Pradesh." (8S) foliowiDS be added, namely:

That at tbe end of the motion, the "but regret that there is no following be added, namely: mention in the Address of the travails and tribulations of the handloom "but regret that there is no workers due to the short-sighted and mention in the Address about elec­ suicidal textile policy or the Union Government." (92) toral reforms as promised in the Presidential Address in 1985." (86) That at the end of the motion. the following be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: "but regret that there is DO "but regret that there' is no mention in the Address about the mention in the Address about the steps thorough failure of the programmes of taken to eradicate poverty and to NREP, IRDP, DPAP, RIEGl» and bridle tbe gap between the rural poor TRYSEM intended for alleviation of and the urban rich." (87) poverty among the rural people." (93)

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : following be added, nam~ly : .

"but regret that there is no "but regret that there is no mention in the Address about the mention in ·the Address about the negligent attitude of the Government steps for removal 0 f unemployment to bring about socialistic pattern of and underemploy m ent among the rural sOQety in the Country." (88) people and the ed ucatod unemployed." (94) That at the end of the motion, the follOWing be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, tho (ol1owing be added, namely:

"but regret that there is no "but regret that there is no mention in the Address about impos­ mention in the Address about the defay ing of any ceiling on urban property." and discrimination by the Union (89) Government in giving Central Water Commissions's clearance for tbe That at the end of the motion, the irrigation projects in sonle States ruled followlDI be added, namely; by Non-Congress Government." (95)

"but rearet that there is no That at the end of the motion, tb~ montion in tbe Address about redpcins follow in, be added, Dlmel)' ~J9S . . MotioD 0/ Tlumks on FEBRUARY 25, 1986{ the President's ~ddreu ~96

Ii IShri K. Ramachandra Reddy] mention in the Address about making 'right to w.ork as a fundamental right "but regret that there is no and providing unemployment allowance mention, in the Address of effective for the unemployed and underemployed steps tor solve the problem of drinking in the rural areas." (102) water in the country." (96) That at the end of the motion, the T'bat at the eqd of the motion, the following be added, namely: ,following be added, namely : "but regret -that there is no "but regret that there is no mention in the Address of any con­ mention in the Address of the failure crete steps for eradicating unemploy­ of the Government in solving a dispute ment amongst the educated youth." between the States of Andhra Pradesh, (103) Karnataka and Maharashtra over Telegu Ganga Issue." (97) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : "but regret that there is no "but regret that - there is no mention in the Address about steps mention in the Address of the for giving remunerative prices to the inordinate delay in solving the Sri farmers for their produce to improve Lankan problem resulting in the their ]ot." (104) massacre of Tamilians in Sri Lanka." (98) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : "but regret that there is no mention in the Address about the "but regret that there is no development of rural people and mention in the Address about the agriculturists by providing them good steps for reforms in administrative accommodation, nledical facilities, system so as to make it more dedica­ better quality seeds and scientific ted to meet the growing needs of the expertise." (105) country and the people." (99) That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: following be added, name]y: "but regret that there is no "but regret . that there is no mention in the Address about the mention -in the Address about the steps misuse of AIR and Doordarshan and to make justice speedy and cheaper the need for giving them autonomy." for the common man." (100) (106) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the following be ,added, namely: "'but regret that there is no mention in the Address about the "but regret that there is no allotment of sufficient funds for affore­ mention in the Address about the station in the country, especiaJ1y in improvement and development of areas of very low rainfall." (101) people below the poverty line whose number has increased consideredly." That at the end of the motion, the (107) following be added, namely : That at the end of ;.the motion, the

"b\lt resret tbat there f in po foUowinS be add'ed, n~mely : 391 Motion 0/ Thankl on. PHALGUNA 6. 1907 (SIAKA) the President's Adtl-.ess 398

"but regret that there is no mention in the Address ab01lt .provid­ mention in the Address. about the ing school-buildings and other infra­ effective steps for preventing denuding structure for elementary education in of forests. It (108) thousands of villages clamoUring for

" J school-building for ele~elltary ~~uca- That at the end of the motion, the tion and at the same time spel1ding followmg be added, namely : crores of ruppes on Model schools and residential schools." (113) "but regret that there is no mention in the Address about the That at the end of the motion, the formulation of a long term plan and following be added, namely : allotment of sufficient funds by the Union Government to combat the "but regret that there is no recurring famine in Rayalseema districts mention in the Address about the Union in Andhra Pradesh." (109) Government's deliberate delay in implementation of Punjab Accord." That at the end of the motion, the (114) following be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that there is no following be added, namely: mention in the Address about the allotment of funds for taking up in­ "but regret that there is no mention well bore project for drilling in-well in the Address about the steps taken bores at Government's cost in all the to implement the Assam Accord. "(134) irrigation wells in Anantapur and Chittor districts of Andhra Pradesh That at the end of the motion., the which are chronically drought-affected following be -added, namely: areas." (110) "but regret that ther~ is no men­ That at the end of the motion, the tion in the Address about the failure following be added, namely : of the Government in solving the Sri Lankan probJenl and to save the "but regret that there is no massacre perp;:: traled on tQe Tami- mention in the Address about steps for lians ,. (I 35) ~ '_ rapid industrialisation in chronically drought affected districts of Rayalseema That at the end of the motion, the in Andhra Pradesh." (111) following be added, namely :

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret tha t there is no men­ following be added, namely: tion in the Address about the delibe­ rate hike in prices of all essential "but regret that there is no commodities by the Government a mention in the Address about steps to few weeks before the Budget Session.u be taken to start T.V. Relay Stations (136) at places of historical importance like Kadiri and Penugonda in Anantapur That at the end of the motion, the districts of Andhra Pradesh and in follOWing be added, namely : places of high altitude like Horsely Hills in Chittoor district and Palakon­ "but regret that there is no men­ dalu near Pulivendula in Cuddapah tion in the address about the infla­ district in Andhra Pradesh." (t12) .. tionary trends in all commodities as a result of the faulty policies of the That at the end of the motion, the Government." (137) folloWing be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the n9 fQllowill$ be added, namelr ; JIo,ltm 01 Thanks OD FEBRUARY 2S, 1'986 'I the Prelident', Addreu fShri K. Ilamachandra Reddy] That at the end of tae motioR, the following be added, namely : "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address about the reduc­ "but regret that there i. no men­ tion the subsidy on fertilizers there­ in tion in the Address that the Govern­ by increasing the burden on farmers ment have not so far -decided to pay who are already over-burdened." (138) market rate of compensation for the lands acquired from the displaced per­ That at the end of the motion, the sons in Visakhapatnam Steel Plant following be added, nan1ely : area." (127) "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address of the steps to That at the end of the motion, the curtail the enormous wasteful expendi­ fonowing be added, namely: ture in Administration, the plan and non-plan sector." (139) "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address about the fire SHRI FRANK ANTHONY (Nomi­ accidents in Steel Plants at Rourkela, nated-Anglo-Indians): I beg to move : Visakhapatnam, Visakhapatnam Port Trust and Siddharth Continental in That at the end of the motion, the Delhi which have caused huge loss of following be added, namely: life and property." (128)

"but regret that there is no men­ That at the end of the motion, the tion in the Address that the Union foHowing be added, namely: Government will, when necessary, intervene to protect the linguistic and/ "but regret that thete is no men­ or religious minorities, as guaranteed tion in the Address that the progress under Article 30 of the Constitution, in construction of Steel Plant at from educational or linguistic or reli­ Visakhapatnam is not satisfactory be­ gious oppression by State Govern· cause of uncertainty of grant of funds H ment. (115) by the Centre." (129)

SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMAMURTY That at the end of the motion, the (Visakhapatnam) : I beg to move: following be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address that several public "but regret that there is no men­ sector undertakings are incurring heavy tion in the Address that the Govern­ and recurring losses inspite of huge ment are considering proposals for investments and programmes under.. reduction of the size of the Visakha­ taken for their expansion and moderni­ patnam Steel Plant and also reducing sation." (130) the job opportunities considerably." (125) . That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the I following be added, namely: "but regret that there is no men­ ~'but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address that the Centre tion in the Address that the Govern­ has DQt so far cleared several major ment have failed to impl ement its and multipurpose projects in various earlier decision to provide job to at States." (131) least one person of every displaced family in the Steel plant area of That at the end of the motion, tbe Visakhapatnam." (126) followins b.e added, oamol)' ~ 401 MDtu. ofTltMk1 Qn PHALGUNA 6/1907 (SAKA) tlte Pruidnlt's AtI4Ie" ..

"but regret that there is no men­ "but regret that the Address does tion in the Address that the Govern­ not mention about the fact that the ment have failed to clear Telugu Ganga entire economic structure has been and Polavaram Projects in Andhra violently upset by the steep fall in the Pradesh and also to arrange a meeting value of the rupee on account of the of Chief Ministers concerned in respect soaring of prices of all commodities." of Vamsadhara and Icchampalli (147) Projects." (131) That at the end of the motioa,. abe That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : foUowing be added, namely : "but regret that there is DO men­ Ubut regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address that DO expeditious tion in the Address about the recent steps were taken to avoid tba failure policy of indiscriminately allowing the of the Mathew Commission for imple­ multinationals to edge out even the menting the Punjab Accord." (148) public sector projects like BHEL, ECIL, HMT etc. which have proved That at the end of the motion) tile technical competency and expertise to following be added, namely: undertake certain works now being entrusted to the multinationals." "but regret that there is 80 men­ (133) tion in the Address that the implemen­ tation of the Anti-Poverty Programme SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY has not shown any tangible results< and (Kurnool) I beg to move: that there has been no firm commit­ ment in tackling rural poverty and in bringing agrarian economic gr0wth and That at the end of the motion, the progress." (149) following be added, namely: That at the end of the mtiOil, the "but regret that there is no men­ following be added, namely : tion in the Address about the expedi­ tious clearance of very important national projects, like Telugu-Ganga "but regret that there is no men­ Project, Polavaram Project and Cham­ tion in the Address that no attempt palli Project, which have been pending has been made to avoid bureaucratic clearance with the Union Government delay, corruption and inefficiency." for a very long time, inspite of Govern­ (ISO) ment of Andhra Pradesh's best efforts to take up these projects for immedi­ That at the cnd of the motion, the ate execution, so that the wastage of following be added. namely: precious water of rivers Krishna and Godavari could be avoided." (145) "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address that the public That at the end of the motion. the sector undertakings have not shown follOWing be added, namely: any impro"vement whatsoever and that the losses in the public sector under­ takings are steadily mounting up to a "but regret tha t there is no men­ staggering figure of Rs. 2.000 crores tion in the Address about the reasons per annuln." (151) for the steep hike in the prices of essential commodities, wheat and rice, fertilizer, coal and petroleum pro­ SHRI ANANDA PATHAK (Dar- ducts." (146) jeeling) : I beg to ... move :

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : follOWing be added, namely : Motion 0/ Thanks on FEBRUARY 25, 1986 . the PresitlMttts._Address 404 fShri Ananda Pathak} That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that in the Address following be added, namely : 'there is no mention about the need to check the erosion of top soil in diffe­ "but regret that in the Address rent hilly areas of the country includ· there is no mention about the need to ing Darjeeling hill." (172) expedite the implementation of Rs. 43 crore Revamping Project for the tea That at the end of the motion, the gardens in the hill areas of the district fciIlowiDg be added, namely : of Darjeeling in West Bengal." (178)

"but regret that in the Address That at the end of the motion, the there is no mention about the need following be added, namely: to include Nepali- language in the Eighth Schedule to the Constitution." "but regret that in the Address (173) there is no mention about the failure of the Government to relax the restric­ That at the end of the motion, the tions on foreign tourists in the district (ollowing be added, namely : of Darjeeling." (179)

"but regret that in the Address That at the end of the motion, the there is no mention about the need following be added, namely to grant regional autonomy for the people in the three hill sub-divisions "but regret that in the Address Qf the district of Darjeeling and co nti­ there is no mention about the need ,auous a;reas in the neighbouring district to set up a Sainik School in where the Nepali speaking people are DarjeeJing." (180) in majority within . the State of West Bengal." (174) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: 'fhat at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely "but regret that In Ul~ Address there is no mention about the failure "but regret that in the Address of the Government to enforce labour there is no mention of or providing legislation awards of the tripartite more Centrai assistance for overall agreements, etc. in the interest of the development of hill areas in the dis­ working class." (l8I) t1'ict of Darjeeling." (175) That at the end of the motion, the That at the f TId of the motion, the following be added, namely : rollo\\ting be added, namely: "but regret that in the Address "but regret that in the Address there is no mention about the failure there is no mention about the need (0 of the Government to ensure strict develop tourism in the district of enforcement of provisions of the Provi­ Darjeeling which is one of the most dent Fund Act and Scheme framed beautiful tpurist areas in the world." thereunder in the interest of the (176) workers. " (182)

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: following be added, namely:

"but regret that in the Address "but regret that in the Address there is no mention about the failure there is no mention about the failure of the Government to take over the of the Government to solve the prob­ closed and sick tea plantations in all lem of reservation of seats in the the tea growing States." (77) Sikkim Legislative Assembly.B (183) 40S Motion 01 Thanks on PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) the President's Addt'eu t06

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, tb.e following be added, namely : folloWing be added, namely:

"but regret that in the Address there "but regret that there is no men­ . is no mention about the need to set tion in the Address about the failure up a television centre at Siliguri." of the Government to consult all . (184) Central Trade Unions and standing Labour Committees before bringing That at the end of the motion, the any labour legislation for enactment." following be added, namely : (230)

"but regret that in the Address That at the end of the motion, the there is no mention about the failure following be added, namely: of the Government to expand the All India Radio Station with the facility of "but regret that there is no men­ Studios at Kurseong." (185) tion in the Address about the failure of the Government in formulating That at the end of the motion, the uniform policy for giving loans to .,J following be added, namely : the people of rural areas by nationali­ sed banks." (231) "but regret that in the Address there is no mention about the failure That at the end of the motion, the of the Government to introduce a following be added, name]y : direct train from New Jalpaiguri to New Delhi." (186) "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address about the failure That at the end of the motion, the of the Governnlent to reduce the following be added, namely: interest rates on loans given to margi­ nal farmers and share·croppers." (232) "but regret that in the Address there is no mention about the need to That at the end of the motion, the introduce a super fast train from New following be added, namely: Jalpaiguri to Calcutta!' (187) "but regret that there is no men­ That at the end of the motion, the tion in the Address about the failure following be added, namely : of the Government to bring down the prices of steel and cement." (233, ~ "but regret that in the Address there is no mention about the failure That at the end of the motion, the of the Government to seal the border fol1owing be added, namely : with Bangladesh and save th~ people of border areas like Islampur, Chopra and other parts of West Dinajpur "but regret that there is no men­ district in West Bengal from the atro­ tion in the Address about the failur. cities and plundering by the anti-social of the Government to protect the elements coming from across the handloom weavers of the country." border." (188) (234)

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion. the following be added, namely : following be added, namely;

"but regret that there is no men­ "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address about the failure tion in the Address about the equit­ of the Government in taking effective ab1e distribution of river waters for steps to DllDlmlse accidents in coal irrigation (purposes among various mines." (229) States." (235) M11 Motion of Thanks on FEBRUARY 25, 1986

(SIlri Ananda Pathak] "but regret that there is no mention in the Address regarding the punitive That at the end of the o10tion, the steps to be taken for deliberate viola­ following be added, namely: tion of reservation order for Scheduled Castes and Sch eduled Tribes." (242) "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address regarding the threat to the integrity of the country from That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: increasing comnlunal and caste feelings and the steps taken to tackle the menace." (236) "but reeret that in the Address there is no mention about the need to grant regional autonomy to the Nepali spea­ That at the end of the motion, the king people in three hill sub·divisions following be added, namely : of the district of Darjeeling within the State of West Bengal." (241) "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address about the failure That at the end of the motion, the to implement the land ceiling laws." - following be added, namely : (237)

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that -in the Address there following be added, namely : is no mention about the need for pro­ viding more central assistance for the "but regret that there is no mention developmen t of biB areas in the district in the Address about the failure to ('f Darjeelir~g.~' (244) end the vast disparity in the prices of agricultural commodities and industrial That at the end of the motion, the products." (238) foHowing be added, namely

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that in the Address there following be added, namely: is no DlentioD about the need to deve­ lop tourism in the district of Darjee­ "but regret that there is no mention ling which is one of the most beauti­ in the Address about the need to enact ful tourist areas in the world." (245) a central legislation for agricultural workers." (239) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, nalnely : Tbat at the end of the motion, the foHowing be added, narnc1y : "but regret that in the Address there is no mention about the failure of the "but regret that there is no mention Go\'ernment to undertake concrete in the Address about the need to pro­ measures to revamp and rejuvenate the vide bouse sites to the landless poor tea industry in the tea district 0 f and necessary financial assistance to Darj eeling. " (246) construct houses." (240) That at the end of the motion, the That at the er.d of the motion, the following be added, name1y : fol1owing be added, namely:

"but regret that there is no mention "but regret that in the Address there 1n the Address about the clear and is no mention about the failure of the firm policy of the Government regard­ Government to provide pension to ing nationaJisation of industries." agricultural labourers, widows and (241) disabled persons." (247)

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : followjng be added, namely: 40§ Motion 0/ Thanks on PHAtGUNA 6, 190; (SAKA) the Presidentjs AddrU8 416

"but regret that there is no mention "but regret that in the Address the.. in the Address about the need for is no mention about the need to fight exempting the poor and marginal far· against all obscurantist, communal and mers, bargadars and agricultural wor­ unden10cratic ide:.1S in the field of kers from the payment of agricuJtur,-tl educatjon." (254) and other Government loans and interest an co-operative loans through­ That at the end of the motion, the out the country." (248) following be ~dded namely:

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that in the Address followirg be added, namely: there is no mention about the need for indusio.} of Nepali, Maithili, "but regret that in the Address there Manipuri and Dogri languages in the is no mention about the failure to put Eighth Schedule to the Constitution." curbs on consumption by the rich." (255) (249) That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the following be added. namely: following be added, namely: f'but regret thJt in the Address there is no m~ntlon about the failure "but regret that in the Address there of the Government in checking the is no mention about the curtai1ment of recurrence of flood havoc in the powers of the State Governments." country." (256) (250)

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: following be added, namely :

"but regret in the Address there "but regret that there is no mention is no mention tbat planning would be in the Address about the miseries and decentralised right upto the village difficulties faced by thousands of level." (288) Tribal people displaced in the course of implementation of different projects in the country." (251) That at the end of the nlotion, the fol1owing be added, namely; That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : "but regret that the Address fails to mention thLit the objectives as "but regret that in the Address there adumbrated in the Industries (Develop­ is no mention about the fact that the ment and Regulation) Act, 1951 would fruits of development are beyond the be redefined, and the responsibility for reach of a large section of popula­ overall planning and licensing of tion." (252) industries would be transferred to the States." (289) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: "but regrct that in the Address there is no mention about the failure of the "but regret that in the Address Government to evolve a policy to there is no mention about the need eradicate mass il1iteracy from the for setting up of a nuclear plant in country." (253) West Bengal." (290)

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion. the following be added, namely : foHowing be added, namely : 411 Motion 0/ Thanks on the Pres/dent IS Address 41~

(Shri Ananda Pathak] That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: "but regret that in the Address there is no mention about the need for "but regret that in the Address setting up of a HMT unit in West there is no mention about the failure Bengal." (291) of the Government to implement the directive principles embodied in articles That at the end of the motion, the 38 to 50 of the constitution." (298) following he added, nanlely :

"but regret that in the Address That at the end of the motion, the there is no mention about the per following be added, namely: capita availability of many essential articles which are far short of the "but regret that in the Address goals set in the early years of plann­ there is no mention about the failure ing. " (292) of the Government to guarantee the trade unions their rights of collective That at the end of the motion, the bargaining and other trade union rights following be added, namely : without any discrimination." (299)

"but regret that in the Address That at the end of the motion, the there is no mention about the large foHowing be added, namely: number of Bills passed by the West Bengal Assembly which are pending "but regret that in the Address President's assent since long." (293) there is no mention about the failure of the Government to set up a Commi­ That at the end of the motion, the ttee consisting of sitting judges of High following be added, namely : Courts to rectify the existing erroneous working class consumer price index." "but regret that in the Address (300) there is no mention about the accidents in mines resulting in the death of That at the end of the motion, the several hundred mine workers." (294) following be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : "but regret that in the Address . there is no mention about the mis­ "but regret that in the Address management and maladministration of there is no mention about the danger industrial units taken over by the of the elitist education sought to be Government." (301) introduced by the proposed new edu­ cation policy." (295) That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: following be added, namely: "but regret that in the Address there is no mention about the U.S. and "but regret that in the Address Pakistan which are trying to destabilise there is no mention about the failure of the Government to acquire surplus India through their nefarious activities land in the country and distribute the of aiding and encouraging secessionist forces in the country. tt (302) land to the landless labollrers." (296)

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: following be added, namely :

"but regret that in the Address "but regret that in the Address there is no mention about the minimum there is no mention of U.S. imperial­ wa,es for working people." (297) ism which is trying to encircle India by 41~ MOllon ol'Tnanks on PHAtGUNA 6, 1901 (SAKA) the Presiden,,'. Addr.eks 4t4

establishing military bases around our "but regret that in the Address there country and by supplying sophisticated is no mention abollt the problem of arms to regimes hostile to democracy." rehabilitation of refugees from Bangla­ (303) desh in the country," (309)

That at the end of the Dl0tion, th~ That at the end of tho motion,: the following be added, namely : follOWing be added, namely:

"but regret that in the Address "but regret that in the Address there thel e is no mention about the root­ is no nlention about the inability of cause Ii which harm the unity and . the Government to amend the Consti­ integrity of the country and the tution to make

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that in the Address there following be added, n2meJy : is no mention about the intreasing nlenace of dowry and dowry deaths "but regret that in the Address there in the country," (312) is no mention about the sinister role played by the Dlultinationals in the That at the end of the motion, the third world by passing on their dis­ following be added, namely : carded technologies." (306) "but regret that the Address .has failed to mention about tae historical iDlPor­ That at the end of the motion, the tance of Supreme Court judgement on following be added, namely : the Shah Bano Case." (313) ,

"but regret that in the Address there That at the end of the motion, the is no mention about the need for following be added, namely : abandoning the Government's present policy of wooing the multinationals." "but regret that the Address has failed (307) to mention about the need for setting up of a ship repairing yard in West That at the end of the motion, the Bengal." (314) following be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that in the Address there fol1owing be added, namely: ., is no mention about the failure of the Governnlent to take long term "but regret that in the Address there measures with a vjew to alleviating the is no mention about the Deed for obnoxious effects of Bhopal tragedy." setting up ot: a ship building complex (308) at HaJdia in West Bengal." (3IS)

That at the end of the nlotion, the That at the end of the motion. the foI1owin~ be added, namely = following be added, namely : ~t i .M.,u,n 0/ Thonks 011

(SIari Anaad.a Pathak) "but regret that in the Address there is no mention that the post of Gover­ "but regret that in the Address there nor will be abolished and alternative is no mention about the need for institutional arrangements made for setting up of an electronic unit in maintaining chanels of communication West Bengal." (316) between the Union and the States." (322) That at the end of the nlotion, the following be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : ~'but regret that in the Address there is f.O mention about the need for "but regeet that in the Address there expansion and modernisation of the is no mention that the subject of Durgapur Steel Plant, Alloy Steel Plant, education would be reverted into the Durgapur and lISCO, Burnpur and State List." (323) Kulti Work." (317) That at the end of the motion, tbe That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : following be added, namely : "but regret that the Address fails to '(but regret that in the Address there mention that there is need for special is no mention about the delay on the grants for universities which the States part of the Central Government to cannot meet." (324) clear the West Bengal Government's proposal to set up new Power Units That at the end of the motion, the in tI;le State." (318) following be added, namely :

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that in the Address there following be added, namely : is no mention about the need for deletion of- "but regret that in the Address there (a) Concurrent List and the transfer is no mention about the institutional each of the items covered by it to arrangements made for setting up of a the State List; IDPL's unit in West Benga1." (319) (b) article 248 and introduction of That at tbe end of the motiou, the an explicit provision so that the f~]Jowins be added, namely: residuary powers vest with the States and not with the Union; "but regret that in the Address there .is no mention about the need for (c) Need for deletion of. or amend .. reopening of closed industrial units in m~nts to, articles 249, 252 and West Bengal by nationalising these 254 so that no State could be units." (320) deprived of any legislative powers which belong to it without its That at the end of the motion, the prior concurrence ; foHowing be added, namely : (d) articles 200 and 201 in their C'but regret that in the Address there present form and making it obli­ is DO mention that unemployment gatory OD the part of the allowance would be given to the to give Assent to all Bills passed unemployed persons till they get job." by the State Legislature on items (321) belong to the State List." (32S)

That at the end of the motion, tile That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : fol1owins be added, name!y : 4i 7 M(}tion o/ThDnks on PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) the President's AdJres,f 418

"but regret that the Address fails to That at the end of the motion, the mention that the articles 247 and 254 following be added, namely : would be so amended that the Union Government's powers to legislate on "but regret that in the Address there items belonging to the State List do is no mention about the child labour not exceed beyond a period of six system prevailing in the country." months." ..(326) (333)

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: foHowing be added, namely :

"but regret that in the Address there is "but regret that in the Address there no mention that tbe State Governments is no mention about the failure would be allowed parallel jurisdiction of the Government to give land/ over radio and television." (327) property rights to refugees from erst .. while East Pakistan now settled in various parts of the country." (334) That at the end of the motion, the following be adtJed, namely: That at the end of the motion, the fo]]owjng be added, nameJy : "but regret that in the Address there is no mention of the need for adequate "but regret that there is no mention financial help to the States which are in the Address about the failure of affected by the drought, flood and the Government to locate one unit of other natural calamities." (328) Bharat Electronics Limited in West Bengal." (335) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the follOWing be added, namely : "but regret that in the Address fails to mention the increasing insecurity in "but regret that there is no mention the rail travel." (329) in the Address about the failure of the Government to have a policy of That at the end of the motion, the national minimum wage." (336) following be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that the Address fails to follOWing be added, namely : mention the increasing rail accidents and derailments." (330) "but regret that in the Addres s there is no mention about the threat being That at the end of the motion, the posed to the peace and security of following be added, namely: the world by U.S.A. due to its policy of heavy militrisation." (337) "but regret that in the Address there is no mention allout the fact that the That at the end of the motion,. the countryside is stiil outside the purview following be added, namely : of the public distribution system." (331) , but regret that in the Address there is no mention about the growing That at the end of the motion, the pressure from the multinationals for a following be added, name1y : free run of the underdeveloped countries so that neocolonialism gets "but regret that in the Address there back what old colonialism lost." (338) is no mention about the prevailing bonded labour system in the country." That at the end of the motion.. the (332) following be added. namely ; 419 MotIon 0/ Thanks on FEBRUARY 25, 1986 the President's Address 420

[Shri Ananda Pathak] That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : "but regret that in the Address there is no mention about the U.S. naval "but regret that in the Address there base in Diego Garcia in the Indian is no mention about the need-based Ocean which is a constant threat to wage policy in India." (345) the security of tbe littoral States." (339) That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : following be added, namely : "but regret that in the Address there "but regret that in the Address there is no mention about the need for is no mention about the rapidly radical land reforms in the interest of deteriorating international situation the peasants and agricultural labou­ and the danger of war due to imperia­ rers." (346) lists pursuing their policy of arms build-up, stationing new and powerful That at the end of the motion, the neclear missiles in Europe, policing of following be added, namely: Gulf area and tbe India Ocean with the expansion of existing bases like "but regret that in the Address there the nuclearised Diego Garcia and is no mention about the failure of the setting up of new bases." (340) Government to curb the monopolists and foreign multinationals in the country." (347) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: "but regret that in the A ddress there is no mention about the arming of "but regret that in the Address there Pakistan with lethal weapons by the is no mention about the fact that the United States of America and the Government is giving further conces­ resultant threat to th~ country's sion to monopolists and multina­ security." (341) tionals." (348)

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the foUowing be added, namely: following be added, namely :

Ubut regret that in the Address there "but regret that in the Addrebs there is DO mention about the failure of the is DO mention about the deteriorating Government to nationali~e all the economic situation in the country foreign assets ill the country." (342) where the rate of inflation is increas­ ing day by day resulting in steep rise That at the end of the motion, the in the prices of essential commodi­ following be added, namely : ties." (349)

"but regret tbat in the Address there That at the end of the nlotion, the is no mention about the failure of the following be added, namely: Government to nationalise the mono­ poly holdings of our country." (343) "but regret that in the Address there is no mention about the all-round That at the end of the motion, the attack on the living standards of the following be added, namely: people through increased taxation and attacks on the wages of the workers "but regret that in the A ddress there and employees." (350) is no mention about the increasing illlpoverisation of the rural masses." That at the end of the motion, the (344) followinS be added, namely; 421 Motion 0/ Thanks on PHAl..GUNA 6, 1901 (SA:KA) the President's Address 422

"but regret that in the Address there record production during the last is no mention about the need for the year." (202) abolition of contract labour system in the country." (3SI) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : "but regret that the Address does not take note of the disproportionate rise in "but regret that in the Address there the Consumer Price Index compared is no mention about the Government's to the change in the wholesale price failure to ensure equal pay and facili­ index of the essential commodities." ties for working women." (3S2) (203)

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the (ollowing be added, namely: following be added, namely:

"but regret that in the Address there "but regret that there is no mention is no mention about the failure to in the Address about the ever increas­ reach the goals of per capita minimum ing number of big and small industries income and per capita mInImum falling sick." (204) availability of many essential commo­ dities to majority of population in That at the end of the motion, the the country." (353) following be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that the Address does not following be added, namely : express Government's concern of the repeated postponement of the proposed "but regret that in the Address there international conference on converting is no mention about the conspicious the Indian Ocean into a zone of consumption by the afiluent and miser­ peace." (205) able living conditi ons of the vast majority of the common people." (354) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : "but regret that the Address does not mention the need to give unemploy­ "but regret that in the Address there ment allowance to the unemployed is no mention about the mounting un­ persons." (206) employment in the country." (355)

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat) : That at the end of the motion, the I beg to move : following be added, namely:

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that the Address does Dot following be added, namely : mention the importance of public sector in the economy and measures "but regret that the Address does not proposed to be taken to strengthen take Dote of the stagnation in the and make viable public sector units production of oilseeds, pulses, cotton such as timely completion of projects, and jute in the country." (201) utilising their full capacity t etc." (201)

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : following be added, namely:

"but regret tbat there is no mention "but regret that the Address does not in the Address about the abnormal rise mention tbe need for implementatioc in the prices of foodgrains despite' its of a composite price policy ensurinJ 42j Motion 0/ Thanks on FEBRUARY 25, 1986 the President·s Address 414

(Shri Indrajit Gupta1 That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : remunerative prices to peasant produ­ cers, parity between the prices of "but regret that the Address does not agricultural produce and industrial mention that the existing laws relating products and inputs, limiting and to the minimum agricultural wages difference in the prices paid to the are not being faithfuIJy implemented primary producers and charged from in a number of States as a result of the the actual consunlers to twenty per influence of the landlard elements on cent and guaranteed supply of all the Government and the administra­ esselltial commodities at controlled tion." (213) prices through a net work of public distribution system by nationalising That at the end of the motion, the wholesale traders." (208) following be added, namely :

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that the Address does not following be added, namely: express serious concern of the fact that even after 37 years of independence "but regret that the Address does not nearly one third of the Indian villages take serious view of the failure of the are not provided even with drinking Government to revamp and extend water." (214) public distribution system which is essential for checking price rise and That at the end of the motion, the ensuring supply of the daily necessities following be added, namely : to the people." (209) "but regret that the Address does not mention the urgent need to enact a That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : comprehensive Central Legislation for Agricultural workers." (215)

"but regret that the Addres~ does not contain any meaSllres to nationalise That at the end of the motion, the jute, cotton textiles, sugar, vanaspati, following be added, namely : medicinal drugs and other essential food producing industries." (210) "but regret that the Address does not take serious note of the fact that FERA measures are not being faithfully That at the end of the motion, the enforced and that they are being following be added, namely: defied by the multinationals." (216)

"but regret that the Address does not That at the end of the motion, the take nOle of the fact that funds alI 0 .. following be added. namely: cated for agriculture, irrigation and rural de.velopment mainly go to the "but regret that the Address does not benefit of the rith while the poor propose to put any effective curbs on sections are denied these benefits." the drain in our national resources as (211) a result of remittances of profits, interest, royal-ties and dividends by That at the eLd of the motion, the the multinationals from this country." fol1owing be added, namely : (217)

"but regret that the Addrf'ss does nut That at the end of the motion, the take a serious vkw of the fact that following be added, namely : in most of the States the implementa­ tion of the Llnd reforms including the "but regret that the Address does not land ceilings and distribution of surplus mention about the growing regional land to tbe tiller has come to a dead imbalances and steps to correct them." halt." (212) (218) 425 Motion 0/ Thalfks on PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) the President's ddt/rels 426

That at the end of the motion, the exploitation of Adivasis by the mine following be added, namely : owners engaged in illegal mlolng operations in tribal areas of Orissa, "but regret that the Address does not Bihar and Madhya Pradesh." (225) mention'. about the mounting unemploy­ ment and under employment in the That at the end of the motion, the country." (219) following be added, namely:

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that the Address makes no following be added, namely : ref~rence to the proportional repre­ sentation as a measure of electoral "but regret that the Address does not reforms." (226) take note of the failure of the Govern­ ment to unearth black money effec­ That at the end of the motion, the tively. " (220) following be added, namely :

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that the Address does not folloWing be added, namely: show due concern at the growing econimic disparities resulting in more "but regret that the Address does not and more people going below the mention about the recognition of trade poverty line, H (227) unions through secret ballot." (221) That at the end of the mation, the That at the end of th~ motion, the foHowing be added, namely: following be add~d, namely : "but regret that the Address does not "but regret that the Address does not nlention about the need of incorporat­ take note of the continuous liberalisa­ ing the right to exercise franchise on tion of Industrial policy in favour of attaining 18 years of age as a funda­ Inonopolists and multi-nationals." mental right in the Constitution." (222) (228)

That at the end of the motion, the That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : follOWing be added, nL!mely :

Hbut regret that the Address fails to "but regret that there is no men­ mention anything about the increasing tion in the Address about the Govern­ menace of dowry and dowry deaths ment failure to curb the growth of in the country.H (223) monopoly industrial houses in the country." (257) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : "but regret that there is no mention in the Address of any proposal to "but regret that there is no mention reserve 25 per cent of jobs for women in the Address about Adult Edu­ in Government and semi-government cation Programme and steps proposed offices in order to find a solution to to be taken for its reactivation." (258) the problem of women's unemp]oy­ ment." (224) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the follOWing be added, namely: "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address of the progress "but regret that the Address does not made in the implementation of the show any concern over the continued National Health Policy." (259) 427 Motioll 0/ Thanks Oil FEBRUARY 25, 1986 the President's Addre" 418

[Sbri Indrajit Gupta] That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address of any steps for "but regret that there is no men­ the abolition and rehabilitation of bonded labourers in the country." (266) tion in the Address of the huge arrears to be paid to the sugarcane growers by the sugar mills in the country." (260) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely :

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that there is no men­ rolJowing be added, namely: tion in the Address 'of any scheme to effectively check the terrific floods and "but regret that there is no men­ drought which occur every year in tion in the Address of the US imperia­ different parts of the country." (267) lism as the main factor for not allowing to turn the Indian Ocean into a zone That at the end of the motion, the of peace." (261) following beadded, namely:

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that tbere is no men­ following be added, namely: tion in the Address about the measures to solve the problem of mounting "but regret that there is no men­ illiteracy in the country." (268) tion in the Address about the USA as the main factor endangering the world That at the end of the motion, the peace and particularly the peace in following be added, namely: Europe." (262) "but regret that there is no men­ That at the end of the motion, the tion in the Address about the need to following be added, namely: grant pension to aged agricultural workers." (269) "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address about the growing That at the end of the motion, the expansion of the US military base in following be added, namely: Diego Garcia and arms build up in .. eluding nuc]ear arms there." (263) "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address of the continued brutal atrocities on Harijans and That at the end of the motion, the Adivasis in different parts of the following be added, namely: country particuJarly in Bihar and U.P." (270) "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address about the steps for That at the end of the motion, the fono­ the inclusion of Nepali, Manipuri, wing be added, namely: Maithili, Santhali and Bhojpuri lan­ guages in the Eighth Schedule of the "but regret that there is no men­ Constitution." (264) tion in the Address of the malpractice in the implementation of various pro­ That at the end of the motion, the grammes such as JRDP, NREP and following be added, namely: RLEGP." (271)

"but regret that there is no men­ That at the end of the motion, tbe tion in the Address about the increa­ fo11owing be added, namely. siDg tentacles of multinationals in Indian economy." (265) "but resret that the Address docs 429 Motion 0/ Thanks on PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) the President', Addre" 430

not take note of the anti-working cl ass That at the end of the motion, the policy of the Government marked by foHowing be added, name 1y ; attacks on the trade union rights and otherwise also by repressive measures "but regret that there is no men­ and, there is no mention of Govern­ tion in the Address to take effective ment's intention of repealing such acts and immediate steps to fil) the unfilled like ESMA." (272) posts reserved for Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes." (278) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : "but regret that there is no men­ tion in the Address of ever increasing "but regret that there is no mention in foreign repayment liability." (273) the Address about granting sufficient funds to ameliorate the condition of the drought-affected people in various That at the end of the motion, the States." (279) foHowing be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the Ubut regret that there is no men­ following be added, namely : tion in the Address about the Indian women who victims of obscurantism, semi-feudal outlook and despite equa­ "but regret that there is no mention in lity of sex as proc1aimed, in the Cons­ the Address about introducing workers titution, are denied equal treatment participation in management." (280) including equal wages." (274) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: "but regret that there is no mention in the Address about slums in all the big "but regret that there is no men­ cities and the measures to ameliorate tion in the Address of the frequent, the condition of slum dwellers." (281) eruption of comnlunal violence in various parts of the country disrupting the communal harmony." (275) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely:

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that in the Address does following be added, nanleJy : not take serious note of the power crisis in the country affecting the utili­ "but regret that there is no men­ sation of existing capacity in the in­ tion in the Address of the growing dustrial sector and steps to be taken to insecurity among the government solve the problem. " (282) employees consequent on the recent Supreme Court Judgement on Art. 311 Tha tat the end of the motion, the (2) of the Constitution." (276) following be added :

That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that there is no mention ir following be added, namely : the Address about the interference 0 the World Bank and the IMP in India': "but regret that there is no men­ economy which has become more pro tion in the Address of the failure to nounced and that the World Bank ha: give compulsory education to the been demanding abolition of food an, children in the age group of 6 to 14 fertiliser subsidies and pressing fo years as provided jn the Constitution." reduction of consumption standards 0 <277) the people." (283) 431 Motion 0/ Thanks 011 FEBRUARY 2S, 1986 the President's Address 432

[Shri Indrajit Gupta] "but regret that there is no mention in the Address of the need to develop That at the end of the motion, the alternative sources of energy, specially following be added.:. Ethyl and Methyl alcohol on th. exam­ ple of Brazil." (357) "but regret that there is no mention in the Address about the need for imple­ That at the end of the motion, the menting of MandaI Commission regar­ following be added, namely : ding reservations in government service." (284) "but regret that stress on population control is missing in the Address." (358) That at the end of the motion, the following be added : That at the end of the motion, the "but regret that there is no mention in following be added, namely: the Address of the crippling effects of the liberalised import policy on the "but regret that there is no mention in indigenous capital goods industry." the Address of National drug policy (285) and need to bring all drugs and pharmaceuticals under one umbrella of Health Ministry." (359) That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely: That at the end of the motion, the following be added, namely : "but regret that there is no mention in the Address about the necessity of "but regret that there is no mention taxing the agricultural income to raise in the Address about enlarging and internal resources." (286) improving the public distribution system and the need to establish pricing and That at the end of the motion, the marketing authorities for different con­ following be added, namely : sumer goods to protect producers and consumers. " (360) "but regret that there is no mention in the Address about the necessity of That at the end of the motion, the re... examining the automobile policy following be a dded, namely: and the need to give more stress on efficient and reliable public transport." "but regret that there is no mention in (287) the Address about the need to improve productivity in protective foods for the SHRI D.N. REDDY (Cuddapah): I common man, specially vegetable, beg to move: fruits and milk." (361)

That at the end of the motion, the follo­ That at the end of the motion, the wing be added, namely: following be add ed, namely :

"but regret that there is no mention in "but regret that there is no mention in the Address of the importance to im­ the Address about a pragmatic approach prove and upgrade the lowly bullock­ to low cost housing for the poor." (362) cart, on which depends a great deal of our farm output including transport, That at the end of the motion, the and there is also DO reference to im­ following be added, namely : prove the plough and the hurdles our farmers are faciog." (356) "but regret that there is no mention in the Address about the need to enlarge That at the end of the motion, the dyland farming and to increase produc­ ollowing be added, namely : tion of pulses, oil seeds and sugar by 433 Motion o/Tha1lkJ 011 PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) the President's Address 434

revamping the transfer of technology of that 679 persons belonged to this com­ programmes." (363) munity. Twenty-two persons were hit by the bullets of the British imperialism at Budge Budge Ghat far way from the SHRI M.S. GILL (Ludhiana) : Mr. frontiers of Punja band a11 those 22 persons Chairman Sir, I have stood on my feet were Sikhs and belonged to my community. with your permission and with the blessings It is, therefore, when I say that I speak on of the opposition party, especially the behalf of the Shrimoni Akali Dal I mean leaders of the Telugu Desam who had to say I speak on behalf of the ... given their time to me to participate on behalf of the Shiromani Akali Da1 in the discussion on the Presidential Address SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA: Instead which was read out before the Joint sitting of the word 'my' you should say 'our' of both the House a few days ago. community.

SHRI M.S. GILL: Again at the time To many of us here in the House and of emergency this is the party which has to a greater number outside the House, risen to the occasion and fought for the Shiromani Akali Dal is a party with only liberation of the people of IndLl who were regional stature. But history is a witness tied down hand and foot under tbe law of that this party has risen to the stature of a emergency_ I am speaking on behalf of national party as and when the exigencies that party. Particularly I want to bring of the time so demanded, as and when to the notice of this House and through the lash of events so desired, as and when this House to the notice of millions of the national emergency so challenged. people who are living on the shores of Therefore, I am speaking on behalf of this India -fishermen, workers, labourers and party which has taken a great heroic part also millions of people who are living in in the freedom struggle and the war of the valleys near the lofty Himalayas and independence with all other parties, shoul­ the people working in the fieJds and the der to shoulder with patriotic people, mines. I want to bring to their notice that shoulder to shoulder with patriotic parties there is a party", hich has fought for the including the Indian National Congress. freedom of India. But on the other hand They have laid down their lives, they have a particular action was taken on behalf of suffered innumerable sacrifices at the altar the ruling party to paint us dark, traitors of the freedom. or extremists.

I may quote, if you permit me, that SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA: Not during the struggle for independence there at all. Sir, this is totally wrong. We were only 120 freedom fighters who were ha ve always high regard for the Sikhs. sent to the gallows by the British Imperialism. Out of this 121 people who (Interruptions) kissed the gallows 93 persons belonged to the Sikh community-the community [Trans/at ion] which believes in the preachings and teachings of Guru Gobind Singh and Guru SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI Nanak. The harshest punishment which (Mandsaur) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would was awarded by the British imperialism on like to point out this much that Shri Meva the freedom fighters was that of transpor­ Singh Gill has stated very good things but tation for life, may be in Burma, Malaysia, he may also add to what he has already Andaman and cellular jails. This punish­ stated that the person who has delivered ment was awarded to 2646 freedom fighters this Address also belongs to their com­ of India and out of this 2147 persons munity, he is also a sikh. belonged to my community. They were Sikhs and they fought in the forefront for [Eng/ish] the liberation of their mother country. Again ] 300 persons were sent down the THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN­ drain by the bullets of Gen. Dyer and out TARY AFFAIRS AND TOURISM (SHRI 435 Motion of Thanks on FEBRUARY 2S. 1986 the President's Address 436

H.K.L. BHAGAT) : May I add ODe word the very outset, I would say that this for the information of the bon. Member? Address is the sta tement of studied silence. Sikhs are one of the most patriotic people statement of omissions. This is a state­ in this country. None of us in the ruling ment of promises forgotten, this is a state­ party has ever called them traitors. We ment of promises unfulfilled and the assu­ have always said they have been patriotic. rances and commitments betrayed. In Individuals nlay have been killers; indivi· this Address, I would say that particularly duals may have been terrorists and indivi­ law and order situation in the country has duals may have been murderers but never not been mentioned deliberately_ Particu­ the Sikh community. They are one of larly, the growing gap between the rich and the most patriotic people. the poor has not been mentioned. Particu­ larly in this Address, the misery of the SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA: We people has been omitted to be mentioned. are proud of Sikh community. A deliberate attempt has been made to cover up al1 these things by certain THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI phraseology, I should say, bombastic VASANT SATHE) : We have always said phraseology J and the truth has not been so. Please correct yourself and do not brought before the people of the nation. repeat it again. Today, we get up early in the morning to read that several persons have been killed, rnutilitated and roasted alive in the flames SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT: They have of communalism. Today, we woke up in fought, died and suffered with the the morning to know that there are groane, Congress. The Akali Party has also made moans of the ladies and young brides who great sacrifices for the country. had been roasted alive for the sake of insatiable lust for dowry. Every knock at SHRI M.S. GILL: This is what I am the doors of the people, today is a note of saying. Akali Party has Inade so many death-knell. We have seen that the sacrifices for the people of the country. calmness of the dusk and dawn is the calmness of the death and despair. Today 17.15 hrs. the story of law and order inside the four walls of the house is the story of in-laws [MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER in the Chair] and their hang orders and outside the four walls the story of law and order is the story of outlaws and their loot orders. [Translation] Today, we see that the story of the day is the story of curfews. It is the story of SHRI VASANT SATHE: Mewa Singh imposition of section 144 Cr. P.C. It is ji, you are giving a velY good speech. I the story of valley of bullets. This is the would request you not to say that the rul­ story of today's time. Today the story of ing party has tried to defame the entire the night fall is the story of those who fall Sikh community. This is not true. This down in the deep dungeons of yesterday goes on record. No Member belonging to beca use we find these people shelt erless, ruling party has ever ~aid so. who are empty stomach, who are bare­ footed and who have nothing to eat. This [English] is the story of the night-fall and you will find them on the pavements of the cities, SHRI M.S. GILL: The party never cosmopolitan cities and now they are passed such resolution. But some persons increasing day by day. This is the story who get the opportunity say so. which we are facing and the President's Address has deliberately omitted this aspect of the Jife of the people. I would say that AN HON. MEMBER: Nobody. it was not long ago. here in this capital, in ( Interruptions) the cities of the Northern India-it was in Bokaro, it was in Kanpur-we have seen a SHRI M.S. GILL: Now, I would 1ike tragic drama unparalleled in the history of to discuss on tbe President's Address. At civilisation, unsurpassed in the histor1 of 437 Motion o/Thanks on PHALGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) the President's Address 438

hatred and we have seen that it was here that the number of such people has not quite close to the Ministry of Home Affairs, been reduced in previous years, but it has under their very nose, under their very gone up. Black money to the tune of eyes, a drama was enacted on the banks Rs. 36000 crores is in circulation in this of Jamuna. It was here that infants and country and it is creating hell in our toddlers were snatched away from the country. That is the reason the prices arms of their mothers and torn as under in are rising and people are becoming poorer. the name of unity of India. It was here On the other hand, we are talking of our that in the name of Akhand Bharat Mata achievements. Our achievements are not that mothers and sisters Were subjected to the achievements of this Government. gang rape before the eyes of their sons and brothers. It was here that persons The green revolution in our country is were caught hold of and they were made not because of the Government; it is be­ to dance the dance of death by putting cause of the hard labour of the Punjab burning rubber tyres round their necks. farmers and others. This is due to the It was here that several persons were hard labour put in the fields by those caught hold of, they were beaten, they people who are not paid well. This is not were decimated and cut into pieces in the due to the efforts of Government alone - name of integrity. It was here that houses and there is no mention of this in the were burnt, jhugis and jhonparis were President's Address. burnt ; it was here that such a great yagna was performed. An these things happened AN HON. MEMBER : Labour comes before the very eyes of the Home Minis­ from Bihar, Orissa and other places. try. All the~e facts have not been men­ tioned in the President's Address. SHRI M.S. GILL: We are thankful for that. But, here the question is efforts Punjab looked towards this august of the Government in this regard. The House, to the echelons of high power, but point is the major effort is on the part of not a finger was lifted, and not a voice the farmer and the farm labour. That is was raised against this holocaust. These why this green revolution has come. It is aspects have not been mentioned in the not that we have brought about these President's Address. things only with the efforts of the Govern­ ment. A question is writ large on the face of millions of people: who reigns India? With these words, I oppose the motion Whether it is Lord Rajiva of Congress (I) of thanks on President's Address. or Lord Shiva, the Lord of death, despair and destruction. That is the question. [Translation] This question should have been gone into in the President's Address, but it has been SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS deJiberately left out. (Jaipur) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, while supporting the Motion of thanks on the On the one hand, we see that the gap President's Address I would like to say a between the rich and the poor is increasing few words. day by day. We find that the high-rise buildings are coming up every day, and Political will is needed to run the simultaneously, we find that the slum areas country and on1y the congress Party has are also getting doubled and tripled in the this will. This party has been active since depressed areas. That is the situation. 1947 when the country was partitioned. On the one hand, some people are be­ We owe the ·progress of the country to the coming rich, on the other hand, the people congress. are becoming increasingly poor and poor day in and day out, and the teeming The country has made considerable millions of India cannot make their both progress in the field of education and ends meet. The number of people below health. The progress has been possible the poverty line is increasing. I dare say because the Congress Party remained in 439 Motion 0/ Thanks on FEBRUARY 25, 1986 the President's Address 440

[Shri Anadi Charan Das] Unless 8 ceiling on property is imposed in the same way as ceiling bas been power continously. The congress party imposed on land holdings, We shall not be has been in power except for two and a able to secure the benefits for the poor half year period. I do not agree with the people which we intend the provide them. contention of the Opposition that there If a single family has multiple sources of has been no appreciable progress in the inconle, we shall not be able to create country_ There has been consistent and sources for others. It has been envisaged significant improvement. Now the food­ under RLEGP to provide employment for grains are available to all. Previously, at least 100 days in a year but this is not famine was a recurring feature in Orissa being implemented properly at the imple­ but now the situation has improved a lot. mentation stage. It was at the instance

The credit for it goes to the Congress of our former Prime Minister t late Shrimati Party. Indira Gandhi that the Planning Commis­ sion formulated programmes to provide Our Prime Minister has fulfiHed the benefit to each and every person but promises he had made. Zamindari system RLEGP has not been successful in this has been abolished. We have brought respect because of the failure to identify about land reforms and enforced land the persons to be covered under this ceiling in the country and as a resu]t programme. This is not the case of a thereof we are in a position the export particular State. Be it Andhra Pradesh foodgrains to other countries. All these or any other State, everywhere the bene­ works have taken place on large scale. ficiary does not get the benefit. They do not get work for 100 days. Therefore, It was the dream of Gandhiji, Nehruji the implementation of such programmes and Indiraji to bring socialism in the needs to be improved so that people can country and that dream has been realised. get the benefit. Our Prime Minist(r is committed to the establishment of sovereign democratic The President has in his Address said republic in the cOl'ntry which he is trying that the 20 Point Programme will be im­ to fulfil. proved further. We hope that it will be done. The Government must ensure that The President has in his Address dwelt no single family possesses more than one on the performance of the Government house. A one-family one-house norm last year and outlined the programmes should be adopted. Unless this is done, and policies to be followed next year. I we shall not be able to curb exploitation whoJe-heartedly welcome it. It is onJy which is going on in the country and due to the policies of Government that neither shall we be able to benefit the nationalisation of banks took place, poor because only a handful of persons moneylending system was abolished and will corner all the benefits. The Presiden t black money was unearthed. The people in his Address has said that next year the who were victims of exploitation to-date 20 Point Programme will be revised so as have been freed from it. to benefit the poorest of the poor in the country. In the case of Harijans and Adivasis the main drawback is illiteracy. The Opposition have been saying that Therefore, education should be given top the cou ntry has devia ted from the pa th of priority so that these people may make socialism. J think they do not khow tbe progress and take advantage of the benefit meaning of socialism. The definition of properly. socialism in our country is different from other countries. AU the programmes, whether IRDP, RLEGP, NREP or Pro­ The Prime Minister has Jaid stress on grammes for Harijans and Adivasis or the importance of deanliness. Everyone programmes for backward areas or the hill should cooperate with him in this respect areas, have been formulated for the eradi­ so that c1earliness is brought about in cation of poverty. What more can be every sphere of society. In the end, the done 1 President has laid stress on tbe unit)' of 441 Motion 0/ Thanks on PHAlGUNA 6, 1907 (SAkA) the President's Address 442 the country _ After the accords were sig­ many of the Opposition leaders also pro .. ned in respect of Assam and Punjab, phesied that there would not be peaceful elections were held and democratic elections in Punjab. But the word of the Governments were formed in those states. Prime Minister proved true, and the But some anti-national elements are not elections in both the Statcs, particularly in cooperating .with the Government. I Punjab, were very pC3ccfully carried on ; would like to point out that there is un­ and as I had stated earJier, a democrati­ abated increase in the population of the calJy-eJected Government came in power. country_ Previously the population stood The greatest danger or the greatest enemies at 4S crores but it has doubled now. The in this region are the terrorists and extre­ Government should take steps to curb the mists who want to dc-stabilize the elected growth of the population. Government, and to continue the conti­ nuous confrontation as far as this Govern­ With these words I again support the ment is concerned. Therefore, the major President's Address and conclude my work or task of the Government in Punjab speech. would be to put an end to this extremism, and to entcr the main-stream of India and to show that like rest of I ndia, there is [English] peaceful government, and steps have been taken towards prosperity of that State. SHRI SHARAD DIGHE (Bombay Some difficulties have arisen out of that North Central): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Accord also. Mathew Commission could Sir: I rise to support the Motion moved not give a solution to the transfer of the by tbe hone Member Shri Eduardo Faleiro, Capital, namely. Chandigi:,rh and also the and seconded by the hone Member Shri trans:er of certain Hindi speaking areas in Zainul Basher, thanking the President for Punjab to Haryana. Therefore, the imple­ his Address to our two Houses. The mentation of that Accord is also passing Address given by the President on the first through sonle rough-weather. But I am day of the Session naturally contains the sure that under the kadcrship of our achievements of this Government made Prime Minister, soon, solution would be during last one full year. It also mentions found out, as far as implementation of that fully the major trends in Ollr economy, Accord is concerned. I will appeal to the and ends with an outHnc of some priority Akali Governlnent in Punjab to deal with areas for the next year. extremists and terrorisls firmly and also rise above pa rty poli tics an d secartianism Sir: As far as the achievements of and cooperate with the Centre in arriving last year are concerned, the major achieve­ at a happy solution, as far as implementa­ ments of this Government, I should say, tion of Punjab Accord is concerned. were punjab and Assam Accords. They have been achieved by our Prime Minister. The Assanl Accord has also resulted, In those two States, for a 10l1g time there as I stated, in the institution of a demo­ was no democratically-ejected Govern­ cratically elected government in that State, ment. A nd in a democracy, it was not and soon that State also will take strides proper to have two States, especially in in prosperity and continuous progress. a federal set up, without democratically­ elected Governments. Similarly, they Now, after dealing with this main were also not represented in this House. achievement of the Government, I may And it was but proper that the two States also refer, in short, to the major trends in should be represented in this House as the economy which are also taking us to early as possible. From this parliamen­ prosperity and giving good trend to the tary point of view, the Accords in both economy of this country. I may not go the States had a great significance. I into details regarding achievement in this ,hould, therefore, say that it was a feather field. Several figures have been given by in the cap of the Prime Minister to have the first speaker on this Motion. Other achjeved these two Accords. details are also given in the President's Address. I will deal critically with one or Whoa the Punjab Accord was sisned. two aspects in this regard. .443 Motion 0/ Thanks on FEBRUARY 25, 1986 the President's Address 444

[Sbri Sharad Dighe] selling of lands of these mills which have been ta ken over by the Government. These As far as the textile policy is concer­ should be immediately nationalised and a ned, my constituer.cy, namely, Bombay is strenuous effort should be made to run intimately connected with the implemen­ them and to employ all the workers who tation of the new textile policy. We are, are there. of course, awaiting, the full implications and the n.>sults of this textile policy I would also refer to a very urgent throughout the country, but in particular problem regarding the policy of tbe certain problems have arisen, as far as Government to curb the growth of con­ Bombay is concerned. In the year 1983-84, sumption of petroleum products. Unfor­ in Bombay 13 textile mills were taken tunately, the opposition parties raised this over pending nationalisation; and it issue under the device of an adjournment is now reported or rather leaked out in motion and, therefore, there could not be the Press the other day tha t even though free discussion in this House. One party the Centre has taken over J 3 textile mills, was driven to the lobby of 'Noes', the losses are being incurred in 10 mills out of other party was driven to the lobby of 13 and therefure it may not be possible to , Ayes'. My submission is that there nationalise them. My submission and should be re-thinking and close thinking appeal to the government would be that on this issue. when these textile mills were taken over, new textile policy was not announced at As far as the Government's options are all : mills were taken over according to the concerned, I know they have been stating old policy. Therefore, the same test of that there are hard options. and that viability may not be applied as far as these Government had to increase the adminis­ mills are concerned; and full trials will tered prices in order to curb further COD­ have to be given for the viability of these sumption of petroleum products in this mills; and only because at present 10 country. There are many authorities which mills are making a little losses we cannot have been contesting this position. I would say that we shall refuse to nationalise refer to the opinion expressed or observa­ tbem. Ful1 opportunity will have to be tions made by one of the Members of the given because it is a question of thousands Planning Commission itself. Mr. Abid of textile workers in Bombay who have Hussain, while inaugurating the ninth been unemployed. Even in these mills meeting of subLcommittee for review of which are being taken over, full employ­ chemical industry on 18 February, 1986, ... ment has not been there; only some observed that he had told the Prime: workers are employed, and others are Minister that the public sector units should facing still unemployment. If we ulti­ not be allowed the easy option of showing mately decide not even to nationalise these profit by jacking up the administered prices. mills and merge them with other units, The public sector must b.e made to toil then the problem of unemployment will bard for improving its returns and earning arise as far as Bombay is concerned. profits. They sbould not be given money easily by allowing such prices increase." There is a suggestion reported in the Now, this is the opinion expressed by one press that some of the land of these mills of the Members of the Planning Commis­ can be sold in order to raise funds for sion, who is still a Member of the Planning making viable these textile mills. It will Commission. If this is so, then we can­ also be a disastrous step as far as these not say that the only option before the mills are concerned, because in Bombay Government is to raise the prices and land is DOW like gold pieces. Especially bridge the gap by raising prices of these the lobby of builders is after these mills petroleum products. I feel that there are and after those who are in charge of these other methods also available to the Go , mills to persuade them to take decisions vernment which may kindly be considered' so that the land will be sold which they and c)osely examined by the Government will take charge and earn crores of rupees even at this stage. For example,> the rapid as profit. Therefore, I would caution growth in the consumption of energy has the Government not to faU in trap in been put before us, but as the fi,urcs • < • . . 44S AI otion 0/ Thanks on PHAlGUNA 6, 1907 (SAKA) the President's Address 446 show. India's per capita consumption of oil record and they are not being implemented is woeful1y low at 0.4 barrel per annum as far as this aspect is concerned. There­ as against 21 barrel in USA, 13 in J~pan fore, my Sl1bnlis~ion is that those measures and five even in a developing country like Inay be taken. I do not suggest that Argentina. So, compared to these countries, rationing In.1Y be introduced. It may we cannot say that our consumption has perhaps create practical problems, but as gone up so much and we must take im­ far as the industries are concerned, as far mediate steps to stop it. Further, I may as the private and public undertakings are also point out that in the Mid-term concerned, we can put a curb on them that Appraisal of the Sixth Five Year Plan, it they should reduce their consumption, say, was estimated that the consumption of by 5 per cent or 10 per cent. That will petroleum prcducts would be still higher have immedbte curb on the consumption than at present. ] have got certain figures of petroleum products as far as the to show that. The demand for petroleum industries are concerned. So, ·whatever products in 1984-85 was originally estima­ steps h ad been Uken to conserve petro­ ted at 45 55 minion tonnes at the time of leum in the mid-seventies in the wake of the Sixth Five-Y (ar Plan formulation. the international oil crisis have already This I am quoting from the Midterm been reversed. At the time of the inter­ Appraisal of Sixth Plan, August 1983, pages national oil crisis we had suggested and 70-73. So, at that time also it w<::s esti­ we h,'d taken several steps to curb this. mated that the demand for petroleum pro­ But noW they h.lve been reversed. Now ducts will be 45.55 million tonnes. As We are trying to curb the comsumption against that, in 1984-85 our demand has only by hikes in the administered prices. been only 38.5 million tonnes. So, even Therefore lllY submission is, this will have our own estimates were that the demand to be looked into ag:dn. If any remedy would be more than What it is at present. can be found out then they may be thought Therefore, my submission is that this point over, as far as this aspect is concerned. may be closely considered and examined. It is not that the demand for petroleum So far we have encouraged the auto­ products has gone very high, beyond the nl0biJe production for the last many estimates, and, therefore, it nlust be curbed months. Suddenly at the Jast moment immediately by hiking the price. It does now we are trying to review the whole not also stand to experience that by rais­ po1icy on that count. My submission is that ing the prices, consumption will go down. perhaps it is too late now to try to reverse All these years, whenever the prices were the whole policy. We should have done , raised, as far as the petroleum products it earlier. We shculd have thought about are concerned, there never bas been this earlier than today and that would decrease in th~ consumption of petroJeuDl have helped us from this point of view. products. The shock of this remains only for a few weeks and within a short time the consumption is restored back to the Therefore my submission is, as I stated. even though at that time it was merely in original position. Therefore, this renledy the form of an Adjournment Motion, a which the Government has resorted to namely, increasing the prices of petroleum real full-scale discussion should have taken place. A national debate has to take place products in order to curb the consunlption, does not Itand to reason according to the because it is a fundamental economic past experience. policy. None should stand on prestige. As far as this issue is concerned, the real My further submission is that several truth must be arrived at by examining all other measures could be taken to curb the the aspects of our policy. From these consumption of petroleum products. In points of view, my sllbmission is, the deed, since long these measures have been economic priorities which we are going to suggested but we have not implemented decide and which we are going to examine, -them. For example, the Kapoor Com­ must be Jooked at from the national point mittee Report is gathering dust. Various of view, not from any party point of view other Reports suggesting measures to be or from any sectarian point of view. The taken for curbing tbe consumption are on real interest of the nation must be taken «1 Motion 0/ Thanks on FEBRUARY 2S, 1986

[Sbri Sbarad Dighe] is the 'cause of the summons'. Why are we called? Future plans at length should into account and then the policy should have been mentioned. Hereafter at leasj be framed accordingly. I hope that the constitutional experts of the Government will apply their minds to this aspect. The purpose of the President's This Address by the President contains Address to Parliament is only to give the several good achievements. Several good cause of summons. Why are you sum­ trends are also shown. But there should moned? What are you going to do? So, ha ve been no misunder;;tanding. I say this from that point of view, mere vague because one of our colleagues was referring references to policies alone are not suffi­ to the Delhi atrocities not having been cient. What are the concrete steps which mentioned here. In this respect he was you are going to take? What are the making a mistake. The first President'S concrete subjects which you are going to Address took place on January 17, 1985. discuss? What is the concrete legislative Those incidents are prior to that. This business which you are going to undertake Address will not contain any reference to not only in this session but throughout incidents which had taken place prior to the year. That should be indicated at the last Presidential Address. So, from least hereafter in the President's Address. that point of view, t ha t criticism appears to be based on some sort of misunder­ standing as far as the Presidential Address With these words I conclude. is concerned. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The House now adjourns to meet again at Eleven of The last point that I want to touch the clock to-morrow. only cursorily is this. As a student of the Constitution, as a student of Parlia­ mentary Practice and Procedure, I would 18.00 brs. like to point out to the Government very humbly that the purpose of the President's The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Address is Dot merely to say about the Eleven 0/ the clock on Wednesday, achievements of the Government. This is February 26, 1986/Phalguna 7, 'the cause of the summons which is given 1907 (Saka). to us'. The President has summoned us to meet in Parliament. President's speech

Shri Dursa PrintiD8 ~rcss, Delhi.