1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2263 do not ask the Senator to. take my view Brig. Gen. Jonathan Waverly Anderson Col. Arthur William Vanaman (lieutenant of it. · (colonel, Field Artillery), Army of the United colonel, Air Corps; temporary colonel, Air States. · · · Corps), Army of the United States. Mr. BARKLEY. Does the Senator de­ Brig. Gen. Albert Monmouth Jones (colo­ Col. William Ormon Butler (lieutenant sire to proceed longer this afternoon, or nel, Infantry), Army of the Unite_d States. colonel, Air Corps; temporary colonel, Air would he care to suspend now? TO BE BRIGADIER GENERALS Corps), Army of the United States. Mr. CHANDLER. It suits me to sus­ Col. William Elmer Lynd (lieutenant colo­ pend. Col. Louis Emerson Hibbs (lieutenant colo­ nel, Air Corps; temporary colonel, Air Corps), nel, Field Artillery), Army of the United Army of the United States. Mr. BA3.KLEY. Then, I suggest that States. the Senator suspend at .this time. Col. Raymond George Moses (lieutenant Col. Douglass Taft Greene (lieutenant colo­ colonel, Corps of Engineers), Army of the Ji;XECUTIVE MESSAGES REFERRED nel, Infantry), Army of the United States. United States. · · · Col. ·John B3llinger Thompson (lieu­ Col. Robert Meredith Perkins (lieutenant The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. LA tenant colonel, Cavalry), Army of the United colonel, Coast Artillery Corps), Army of the FoLLETTE in the chair), as in executive States. United S~ates. session, laid before the Senate messages Col. Eugene Manuel Landrum (li~ute:p.ant Col. Edwin Jacob House (lieutenant colonel, from the President ·of the United States colonel, Infantry), Army of the United ,Air Corps) , Air Corps. submitting sundry nominations in the States. Col. Stuart Chapin Godfrey, Corps of Engi­ Army, which were referred to tbe Com­ Col. Staffo-rd LeRoy Irwin (lieutenant colo­ neers. nel, Field Artillery), Army of the United Col. Lewis Charles Beebe (lieutenant colo­ mittee on Military Affairs. · ' · States. · nel, Infantry), Army of the United States. GENERAL Col. William Spen~e (lieutenant colonel, faith, heavenly Father, ' with . morning Maj. Gen. Brehon Burke Somervell (lieu­ Field Artillery), Army of- the United Stat'es. faces and with morning hearts make us tenant colo-nel, Corps of Engineers), Army of Col. Basil Harrison. Perry (lieutenant colo­ eager to work and strong to endure. the United States. · nel, Field Artillery), Army ·of the United Dear Lord, we need to remember that States. · · APPOINTMENT IN THE REGULAR ARMY OF THE true and lofty souls have ever found rest Col. Withers Alexander Burress (lieutenant UNITED STATES colonel, Infantry), Army of the United States. in the de~pest perplexities; thus life is· Col. Robert Hilliard Mills, Dental Corps, to · Col. Robert Alexis McClure (lieutenant colo­ our teacher: acquiring great .value. En­ be assistant to the Surgeon General, with the nel, Infantry), Army of the United· States. able us to learn that mercy is greater rank of brigadier general, for a period of 4 Col. Ernest Nason Harmon (lieutenant colo­ than sacrifice, that truth is infinitely years from date of acceptance, vice Brig. Gen. mightier than fiction and that goodness Leigh C. Fairbank, assistant to the Surgeon nel, Cavalry), Army ol the United States. is superior to any type of greatne~s. General, who retired February 28, 1942. Col. Alfred Maximilian Gruenther (major, Field Artillery), Army of the United States. Toiling· with fidelity, exulting in the TEMPORARY APPOINTMENTS IN THE ARMY OF Col. Wilhelm Delp-Styer (lieutenant colo­ power to be and to labor even in the most THE UNITED STATES nel, .Corps of Engineers), Army of the United menial tasks, Oh, how simple and yet how TO BE MAJOR GENERALS States. sublime, dear Lord! We pray that we Brig. Gen. Lindsay McDonald Silvester Col. James Edward Wharton (lieutenant may thus be lifted above the infirmities (colonel, Infantry), Army of the United colonel, Infantry), Army of the Unit.ed States: of the :flesh and our souls brought into States. Col. Lucius DuBignon Clay (major, Corps of· Brig. Gen. Charles Philip Hall (colonel, In­ the region of supernal power. · In the Engineers), Army of the United States. name of our Redeemer and for His sakP. fantry), Army of the United States. Col. Charles Philip Gross (lieutenant colo­ Brig. Gen. Wade Hampton Haislip (colonel, nel, Corps of Engineers), Army of the United Amen. Infantry), Army of the United States. States. The Journal of the proceedings of yes­ Brig. Gen. Franklin Cummings Sibert Col. Paul Lewis Ransom (lieutenant colonel, terday was read and approved. (lieutenant colonel, Infantry), Army of the · Infantry), Army of the United States. United.States. Col. Raymond Alexander Keiser, Veterinary AMMUNITION CARRIERS Brig. GE!n. Robert Henry Lewis, United Corps. Mr. O'TOOLE. Mr. Speaker, I ask States Army. Col. Charles Everett Hurdis (lieutenant unanimous consent to address the House Erig. Gen. Alexander McCarrell Patch, Jr. colonel, Field Artillery), Army of the United (lieutenant colonel, Infantry), Army of the for 1 minute. States. United States. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to Brig. Gen. Orlando Ward (lieutenant colo­ Col. James Richard Townsend (lieutenant the request of the gentleman from New nel, Field Artillery), Army of the United colonel, Coast Artillery Corps), Army of the United States. York? States. There was no objection. Brig. Gen. Glen Edgar Edgerton (colonel, Col. Charles Spurgeon Harris (lieutenant Corps of Engineers), Army of the United co!onel, Coast Artillery Corps), Army of the [Mr. O'TooLE addressed the House. States. United States. His remarl{S appear in the Appendix. J Brig. . Gen. Raymond Albert Wheeler (colo­ Col. La Rhett Livingston Stuart (lieutenant BONNEVILLE'S CONTRIBUTION TO nel, Corps of Engineers), Army of the United colonel, Coast Artillery Corps), Army of the WINNING THE WAR States. United States. Brig. Gen. Russell Lamonte Maxwell (colo­ Col. Stanley Raymond Mickelsen (lieuten­ Mr. SMITH of Washington. Mr. nel, Ordnance Department), Army of the ant colonel, Coast Artillery Corps), Army of Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to United States. · the United States. proceed for 1 minute and to extend my ·2264 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE ·MARCH 11 remarks in the RECORD and to include gation of the handling of the ·Harry MESSAGES FROM THE PRESIDENT two brief letters. Bridges matter. Sundry messages in writing from the The SPEAKER. Is there objection to So far', the chairman of the Rules Com­ President of the United States were com­ the request of the gentleman from Wash­ mittee has been unwilling to grant me a municated to the House by Mr. · Miller, ington? hearing_ one of his secretaries, who also informed There was no objection.. I wonder if the chairman of the Rules the House that on the following dates Mr. SMITH of Washington. Mr. Committee really knows what I am asking the Presid~nt approved and signed bills Speaker, the Bonneville hydroelectric for. The reason I say this is that in his and a joint resolution of the House of project on the Washington side of the answer as to why he did not give me a the following titles: hearing, shown on page 2113 of the CoN­ Columbia River in my district is making On March 7, 1942: an essential and real, worth-while con­ GRESSIONAL RECORD, March 9, he says: H. R. 794. An act for the relief of Catherine tribution to our winning the war. The Furthermore, I feel that the passing of any Ward; two huge aluminum plants of the Alumi­ such measure by Congress would be held to be H. R. 1647. An act for the relief of William num Corporation of America at Van­ a bill of attainder, prohibited by the Consti­ H. Dugdale and wife; couver, Wash., and the Reynolds Metals tution of the United States. H. R. 1793. An act to authorize mailing of small firearms to officers and employees of Co. at Longview, Wash., are among the Does this great chairman really mean enforcement agencies of the United States; most important and essential war indus­ to say that my request for a congressional · H. R. 2300. An act to correct the descri'p­ tries in the entire Pacific Northwest. I investigation is a bill of attainder? This tion of land added to the Bryce Canyon Na­ am inserting in the RECORD letters from should be a surprise to every Member in tional Park pursuant to the act of Februa,ry Dr. Paul J. Raver, administrator of this House. Is not that one of the weak­ 17, 1931; Bonneville, and Mr. Donald M. Nelson, est excuses that could possibly be given in H. R. 2302. An act to adjust the boundaries Chairman, War Production Board, which denying a hearing, on a rule, for a con- of the Cedar Breaks National Monument and emphasize these facts. the Dixie National Forest, in the State of . gressional investigation? Uta.b, and for other purposes; The letters referred to are as follows: Can it be that this distinguished chair­ H. R. 2908. An act for the relief of William UNITED STATES man has this whole matter mixed up H. Evens; · DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, with an entirely different matter, namely, H. R. 4019. An act for the relief of John J. BONNEVILLE POWER ADMINISTRATION, the Allen bill, which passed this House by Jenkins; Portland, Oreg., March 9, 1942. a vote of 330 to 42? Or the second Allen H. R. 4401. An act to provide for the es~ Hon. MARTIN F. SMITH, bill, which passed this House unani­ tablishment of a commissary or canteen at House oj Representatives, Glenn Dale Sanatorium, Glenn Dale, Md.; Washington, D. C. mously? For his information, these are H. R. 4626. An act for the relief of the MY DEAR MR. SMITH: I am attaching hereto different matters, and I would hate to legal guardian of Jane Hawk, a minor, and a copy of a letter from Donald Nelson, which think that, due to any such mistake, I J. L. Hawk; I am sure will be of interest to you. was denied a hearing. H. R. 4648. An act to amend the act of Very truly yours, I believe this chairman should explain August 11, 1939 (53 Stat. 1418), entitled "An PAUL J. RAVER, his attitude and bring himself up to date. act authorizing construction of water con­ Administrator. servation and utilization projects in the PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE HOUSE Great Plains and arid and semiarid areas cf the United States," as amended by the act WA..rt PRODUCTION BOARD, Mr. PADDOCK. Mr. Speaker, I ask of October 14, 1940 (54 Stat. 1119); Washington, D. C., March 6, 1942. unanimous consent to address the House H. R. 6375. An act to amend subchapter 2 Administrator JAUL J. RAVER AND EMPLOYEES, for 1 minute and to extend my remarks of chapter 19 of the Code of Law for the Bonneville Power Administration, in the RECORD and to include a short District of Columbia; Portland, Oreg. letter. H. R. 6446. An act to provide for continu­ MY DEAR DR. RAVER: The prosecution of a The SPEAKER. Is there objection to ing payment of pay and allowances of per­ successful war program by this Nation on the request of the gentleman from sonnel of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, aml fighting fronts throughout the world requires Illinois? Coast Guard, including the retired and Re­ a vast army of workers wholeheartedly devot­ serve components thereof; the Coast and ing their efforts to greater and greater produc~ There was no objection. Geodetic Survey and the Public Health tion of machines and materials necessary for [Mr. PADDOCK addressed the House. Service, and civilian employees of the execu­ the armed forces. World War No. 2 will be His remarks appear in the Appendix.] tive department, independent establishments, won by our fighting men equipped with su­ EXTENSION OF REMARKS and agencies, during periods of absence from perior airplanes, tanks, guns, ships, and other post of duty, and for other purposes; and implements of modern warfare. Mr. THOMAS of New Jersey. Mr. H. J. Res. 248. Joint resolution to direct the As one of the Nation's greatest sources of Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to ex­ Commissioners of the District of Columbia power for war industries producing machines, tend my own remarks in the Appendix of to make an investigation and survey to de­ equipment, and supplies for the armed forces, the RECORD. termine the feasibility of the construction of the Bonneville-Grand Coulee Power Adminis-: subways in the District of Columbia for both tration, is vital to the successful prosecution The SPEAKER. Is there objection to streetcars and vehicular traffic. of the war. Every employee of your organiza­ the request of the gentleman from New On March 9, 1942: tion should realize fully his participation in Jersey? H. R. 962. An act for the relief of Mult­ the Nation's vital war-production effort. There was no objection. ·nomah County, Oreg.; While you and your employees ·are not In Mr. GATHINGS. Mr. Speaker, I ask H. R. 2980. An act for the relief of Na­ military uniform, nevertheless, I want you to tional Heating Co., Washington, D. C.; feel that your all-out contribution of con­ unanimous consent to extend my own scientious productive effort to supply electric remarks in the RECORD and to include H. R. 3966. An act for the relief of Estella power to essential war industries is of vital two letters I have received. King; and importance to the Nation's war program. H. R. 5413. An act to validate settlement The SPEAKER. Is there objection to claims established on sections 16 and 36 Bonneville Power Administration is a basic the request of the gentleman from Ar- · war-production agency. within the area withdrawn for the Mata­ Very truly yours, kansas? · nuska Settlement project in Alaska, and fer D. M. NELSON. There was no objection. other purposes. Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Speaker, I ask On March 10, 1942: HARRY BRIDGES unanimous consent to extend my own H. R. 6511. An act making appropriations Mr. LELAND M. FORD. . Mr. Speaker, remarks in the RECORD and to include for the Treasury and Post 0ffice Departments for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1943, and I ask unanimous consent to proceed for letters I received from Donald Nelson and for other purposes. 1 minute. Sidney Hillman, my reply to the Donald The SPEAKER. Is there objection to Nelson letter, and also a letter from the WAR DEPARTMENT CIVIL FUNCTIONS AP­ the request of the gentleman from Cali­ office of the Under Secretary of w·ar, PROPRIATION BILL, FISCAL YEAR 1943 fornia? pertaining to the clothing contracts. Mr. SNYDER. Mr. Speaker, I move There was no objection. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to that the House resolve itself into the Mr. LELAND M. FORD. Mr. Speaker, the request of the gentleman from Mich­ Committee of the Whole House· on the as this House knows, I have presented igan? state of the Union for the further con­ Resolution No. 401, calling for an investi- There was no objection. sideration of the bill Missouri, as well as our neigh­ June 30, 1943, for civil functions admin­ these dams are in abundance in these bors who live in northern Arkansas, are istered by the War Department, and for areas. Power can begin to be supplied deeply grateful to our good friend, the other purposes. by these two dams not later than De- gentleman from Arkansas, DAVE TERRY, Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. Mr. cember- 1_944. _ _ who has so generously given of his Speaker. I make the point of order that There is a power shortage already in great ability and untiring energy to the there is no quorum present. the State of Arkansas. Forty-eight per­ construction of Bull Shoals and Table Th~ SPEAKER. Evidently there is no cent of all of the power used in that Rock Dams. White River rises in the quorum present. State comes from outside of it. Boston Mountains, in northwest 4\rkan­ Mr. WOODRUM of Virginia. Mr. Likewise, there is a power shortage sas, and runs through three countie.5 of Speaker, I move a call of the House. in north Texas and in southern Missouri. my congressional district, back across The motion was agreed to. There are at least three large cities, northeastern Arkansas until it spills into The Clerk called the roll, and the fol­ Kansas City, St. Louis, and Springfield, . the Mississippi River. It :flows through lowing Members failed to answer to their in the State of Missouri, and Little Rock and drains a vast area of several million, names: in the State of Arkansas, Greenville in acres in southern Missouri and northern [Roll No. 37] Mississippi, and Memphis in the State Arkansas, and you will find in the White Arnold Jarrett Ramspeck­ of Tennessee, where there are waT in­ River Basin one of the richest alluvial Bates, Mass. Jenks, N.H. Reece, Tenn. dustries and activities already, and valleys in the whole United States. Bender Jensen Reed, Ill. others to be constructed, that will be sup­ The annual direct loss due to :floods in Bishop Johnson, Sasscer Bolton Lyndon B. Satterfield plied if these dams are constructed. that region is in excess of $2,000,000. Byron Kee Schaefer, Ill. I remind my colleagues that 95 percent The Army engineers, after extensive and Camp Kilburn Scrugham of all of the bauxite in the United States exhaustive surveys, have definitely stated Case, S.Dak. Kleberg Shafer, Mich. Casey, Mass. Kramer Shannon is located in this territory. Also there that, from the standpoint of :flood control Chenoweth Ludlow Sheridan are large deposits of manganese, lead, alone, these two dams at Bull Shoals on Cole, Md. McGranery Stratton zinc, cinnabar, and related products. the White River in Arkansas and at Table courtney McKeough Sumners, Tex. crosser McLaughlin Sweeney Furthermore, one of the best deposits of Rock on the White River in Missouri are Culkin Maas Tolan coal in this country for the manufac­ justified from an economic point of view. Curtis Magnuson Vreeland ture of synthetic rubber is located in They are also feasible from an engineer­ Douglas Merritt Walter Drewry Monroney West the heart of the Ozark Mountains, and ing point of view. Duncan Mundt Wheat the plants for the manufacture of syn­ As has already been pointed out, this Engle bright Myers, Pa. White thetic ·rubber will be located in this area is a great agricultural region. These Gavagan Norton Whitten Hancock O'Day Wigglesworth region. Ozark hillsides are dotted with sawmills Heffernan Osmers Wolcott If this war becomes more acute, it may and canning factories. We manufacture Howell Pfeifer, Worley . be necessary to remove essential war pro­ lumber and barrel staves. We perhaps Izac Joseph L. duction from the Pacific coast to a re­ grow and can more tomatoes in my con­ Jarman ftamsay gion far removed from possible air raids. gressional district than .any other equal The SPEAKER. On this roll call 359 It would be impossible to find sites bet­ area in the whole world. Power is Members have answered to their names, ter than those within serving distance needed not only for these m1lls and fac­ a quorum. of these dams. tories, but it is needed for the manufac­ Mr. WOODRUM of Virginia. Mr. Russia wisely located a large part of ture of Carthage marble and·stone, glass Speaker, I move to dispense with fur­ her war industries within and east of sand, clay products, bauxite, manganese, ther proceedings under the call. the Ural Mountains. We must not com­ and particularly in the great tri-State The motion was agreed to. placently refuse to prepare for the mining area of southwestern Missouri, The SPEAKER. The question is on future. Time is :fleeting. Production northwestern Arkansas, and northeastern the motion of the gentleman from Penn­ must not be delayed. These dams are Oklahoma where we· are furnishing lead sylvania that the House resolve itself needed now. and zinc for war production. into the Committee of the Whole House The CHAIRMAN. The time of the I want to advise the Members of the on the state of the Union for the fur­ gentleman from Mississippi has expired. House that this is no new thing. When ther consideration of the bill H. R. 6736. Mr. SHORT. Mr. Chairman, I ask I came to Congress 14 years ago I im­ The motion was agreed to. unanimous consent that I may proceed mediately began to fight for 'Table Rock Accordingly the House resolved itself for an additional 5 minutes. Dam. Only last summer I took the gen­ into the Committee of the Whole House The CHAIRMAN. The time is already tleman from Texas [Mr. THOMASON], the on the state of the Union for the further limited. gentleman from Alabama [Mr. SPARK­ consideration of the bill H. R. 6736, with Mr. SHORT. I understand that my MAN], the gentleman from Tennessee Mr. BUL WINKLE in the Chair. colleague from Missouri [Mr. BENNETT] [Mr. DAVIS], and the gentlemen from The Clerk read the title of the bill. is included in the list, and he has gladly Arkansas [Mr. GATHINGS and Mr. ELLIS] The CHAIRMAN. At the time the yielded that time to me, if that can be out to this Table Rock dam site. I am Committee rose yesterday an amend­ done. sure they will verify everything that I ment of the gentleman from Arkansas The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman say, that it has one of the greatest po­ [Mr. TERRY] was pending. Time on the from Missouri [Mr. BENNETT] was not tential power possibilities that can be amendment was limited to 45 minutes. included in the original calculation made found in the whole of the United States, The Chair has the names of the follow­ yesterday. in a great defense area that is vitally in ing Members to be allotted time: Mr. Mr. SHORT. He stood yesterday at need of hydroelectric power. RICH, Mr. SHORT, Mr. WOODRUM of Vir­ my side. This matter has been thoroughly in­ ginia, Mr. RANKIN of :Mississippi, Mr. The CHAIRMAN. However, the Chair vestigated and gone over by various com­ COLLINS, Mr. PLOESER, Mr. ELLIS, Mr. is going to include him by cutting half a mittees in and out of Congress during the POWERS, Mr. SNYDER. minute from the time of everyone else. past 14 years. Not only the National Mr. COLLINS. Mr. Chairman, in my The gentleman from Missouri is recog­ Rivers and Harbors Congress, a nonprofit opinion White River is the greatest river nized for 5 minutes. The gentleman and nongovernmental organization of in this country for the production of asks unanimous consent that he be al­ wh~ch I am president, and which is com­ electrical energy. Its power possi­ lowed an additional 5 minutes heretofore posed of many Members of Congress, bilities surpass those of any other river allocated to the gentleman from Missouri mayors of cities, outstanding engineers, in the United States. One dam, the Nor­ [Mr. BENNETT]. Is there objection? shipp3rs, and businessmen all over the fork Dam, is already being constructed, There was no objection. country, has given unanimous approval and if the amendment of the gentleman Mr. SHORT. Mr. Chairman, I de~ply to both of these dams, but the Federal from Arkansas prevails, a dam will be appreciate this additional time, though I Power Commission and the National Re­ built at Table Rock, which will have an regret that I have not at least 20 or 30 sources Planning Board have recom­ ultimate capacity of 120,000 kilowatts, minutes to speak in behalf of the amend­ mended it. The district engineer of the and another at Bull Shoals, with an ulti­ ment offered by our able colleague from United States Army at Little Rock, the mate capacity of 360,000 kilowatts. La- Arkansas [Mr. TERRY]. The people of Chief of Engineers, Maj. Gen. Eugene 2266 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11 Reybold, a man who stands at the top of So I want my friends particularly to Mr. TABER. I was very much inter­ his profession, have not only officially en­ bear in mind that this amendment offered ested to notice in the hearings that the dorsed it but have personally told me· on by the gentleman from Arkansas does cost per kilowatt of electric power sup­ many occasions that it is one of the finest not increase by one red cent or one thin posed to be produced by this project sites for a dam that can be found in the dime the authorization in the present would be 3.2 mills, as against a coal cost entire United States. measure. of approximately 2 mills. What does the Not only" would it give protection to Table Rock should not have been elimi­ gentleman have to say about that-kind the alluvial valley down in Arkansas, nated. of situation? · which would result in immense benefits Mr. MAY. Mr. Chairman, will the Mr. RICH. It is my opinion that the to the farmers of the country, but it would gentleman yield? cost does not warrant the construction furnish power for many industries in both Mr. SHORT. I yield to the distin­ of this project at a time like this, when Arkansas and Missouri. Not only the guished chairman of the Committee on the Nation needs every dollar .It can mar­ National Resources Planning Board, the Military Affairs. shal to prosecute this war. Federal Power Commission, and the Chief Mr. MAY. But if the appropriation is Mr. SHORT. Will the gentleman of Army Engineers, but the Flood Con­ included it will authorize the starting yield? trol Committee of this House, after bear­ of a dam that will cost how much? Mr. RICH. No; I cannot yield; I have ing this proposition for many years, re­ Mr. SHORT. Thirty-seven million not the time. I want to make my state­ ported it to this body. I want to say dollars; and which will pay for itself in ment, then I will yield. that when a bill gets past the gentle­ a short period of years and will produce man from Mississippi, WILL WHITTING­ In the first place, if you vote this item TON, who is an able lawyer and a fine hydroelectric power for 2.6 mills per into the bill,/ this project will cost $62,- gentleman, who exercises meticulous care, kilowatt-hour. 000,000. This project has never been it has to have some merit and some Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. Two and started. This one dam, when finished, worth. This House and the Senate au­ six-tenths mills. is supposed to cost $37,000,000, according thorized in the Seventy-seventh Con­ Mr. SHORT. Two and six-tenths to the hearings. Colonel Reber states gress, Public Law, 228, both of these proj­ mills pr kilowatt-hour, and that will that the first power will not be 'ready ects, and the Budget has approved it. produce 120,000 kilowatt;.: an hour. The until May 31, 1945. That is 3 years from The President has even gone to the trou­ now. The job will not be completed un­ result will be the starting of the process til June 30, 1946; that is 4 years and 4 ble of writing a letter to the Speaker of of electrolytic mining in that area in the the House of Representatives urging that months from now. Goodness knows we production of the lead and the zinc that want this war to be over a long time be­ both Table Rock and Bull Shoals be in­ is so essential to the conduct of the pres­ cluded in the appropriations in. this fore that. The situation is just this: measure. ent war effort. If you appropriate $37,000,000 for a On February 19, 1942, Mr. Harold D. Mr. DONDERO. Mr. Chairman, will :flood-control project, and we are going Smith, Director of the Bureau of the the gentleman yield? to add to that a few ..kilowatts of power, Budget, in a letter addres·sed to the Presi­ Mr. SHORT. Gladly. possibly it will do some good; I would not dent, speaking of Bull Shoals and Table Mr.· DONDERO. How many horse­ doubt that if we were in a position where Rock dams, said: power will be generated by the $37,000,- we could get out and construct it, and 000 to be expended? if we had the money, and if we had the [They] are recommended as necessary in if the interest of the war effort by agencies Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. One men, and we had everything that was directly concerned therewith. hundred and twenty thousand kilowatts necessary so far as priorities is concerned to get these generators, it would be all The following day the President of the an hour, or more than 1,000,000,000 kilo­ right; it would develop that country and United States, in a letter addressed to the watt-hours a year, of firm power alone. help the States of Missouri and Arkan­ Speaker of the House, said that he con­ Mr. DONDERO. If the gentleman fa­ sas, and I think it would be a good thing; curs in the comments and observations vors the generation of power there he but, Mr. Chairman, do you think to go of the Director of the Budget. would undoubtedly be in favor of the St. out and construct this dam, where it will Here is a proposition, if you please, that Lawrence project that would develop 2,- be 4 years and 4 months before it will has made every hurdle. It received the 200,000 horsepower; would he not? · develop any power, where not a pick has unqualified· endorsement of the National Mr. SHORT. Oh, no, that is a naviga­ been stuck in the soil-do you think it Rivers and Harbors Congress, the Federal tion· project as well as a power project. would be sensible? Where will you get Power Commission; was recommended by It will require 7 year... to complete it. It the money? the Army engineers, after spending also is .an international project. It calls, Mr. TERRY. Will the gentleman thousands of dollars surveying and in­ of course, for expenditures vastly greater yield? · vestigating, taking soundings and bor­ than those in this bill; besides, this prop­ Mr. RICH. I yield. ings down at these two dam sites on the osition has already been authorized by Mr. TERRY. I know the gentleman White River. Then a committee of this the Congress of the United States. It wants to be fair. He states that the House reported it. It was authorized by has been approved by all these Govern­ project will not be finished for 6 years. the Congress of the United States, ap­ ment agencies, and I want to urge the Mr. RICH. No; I said 4 years and 4 proved by the Budget, and urged by the Members of this House, in the interest of months. President as of vital necessity for our war national defense, and 1 believe it to be effort. Your subcommittee on appropri­ in the interest of national defense-to Mr. TERRY. Four years; but the en­ ations approved Table Rock along with vote for the Terry amendment which ergy will be produced in the spring of Bull.Shoals, but the full committee, by a will include Table Rock Dam. Food and 1945. majority of 4 votes, left it out. Why? munitions are essential to the winning Mr. RICH. That is .when they expect On a technicality. Because $6,500,000, of this war and the construction of these to begin to furnish energy. I quoted the initial allocation for Table Rock, two dams will furnish both. from Colonel Reber, who was the engineer would go above the authorization by about [Here the gavel fell.J who appeared before the committee. Mr. MAY. Mr. Chairman, will the three or four million dollars. But I want The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman to call to your attention the fact that the gentleman yield? from Pennsylvania [Mr. RicH] is recog­ Mr. RICH. I yield. amendment offered by the gentleman nized for 5 minutes. from Arkansas does not exceed by one Mr. MAY. This would be but the be­ Mr. RICH. Mr. Chairman, if there is ginning, the starting of a system of dams thin dime the authorization in the bill. any Member in the House of Representa­ It merely adds $2,l.Oo,OOO that we have in on the White River that would ulti­ reserve, to bring the authorization up to tives with whom I would want to go mately be like T.V. A., which was started the $49,000,000. General Reybold has . along, it would be my colleague from with $50,QOO,OOO, but which has cost us •. , told me within the past 2 days, and so Missouri who just preceded me. I love over $1,000,000,000. did Colonel Reber inform other Members, him like a brother. Mr. RICH. I would not be surprised that if they can get this $2,106,000 that Mr. TABER. Mr: Chairman, will the that that will ultimately be the case they already have, due to the elimination gentleman yield for a question? because there are two dams they want of the $6,500,000 allocated for Table Rock, Mr. RICH. I yield to the distinguished to construct now. The Bull Shoals Dam they can begin this project immediately. gentleman .from New York. · · that they also want in this bill will 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2267· cost $50,500,000. That is .in the bill also, the public power bloc, since in this proj­ 60,000 of which will be firm. It will in­ and it is the beginning of that project. ect $34,600,000 of the $37,000,000 iS crease the firm capacity of the private They want in this bill for that $16,700,- devoted to power? power company dam below it on the 000. So the sum total of these two, we Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. While White River by 15,000 kilowatts, and it know, is going to be $87,500,000. the light holds out to burn, the vilest will increase the capacity of Bull Shoals Mr. Chairman, to save America we sinner may return. below that by 16,000 kilowatts. There is ought to stop this, and stop it now. Will I am expecting to see a revival of no more economical power project in this you do it? Your vote will decide. righteousness all over this House. And Nation than this one. [Here the gavel fell.J may I say to the gentleman from Ala­ Mr. SHORT. Mr. Chairman, will the The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog­ bama that this project is of such glaring gentleman yield? nizes the gentleman from Mississippi importance under the circumstances that Mr. ELLIS. I yield to the gentleman [Mr. RANKIN]. I expect my friend the distinguished gen.:. from Missouri. Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. Mr. tleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. RicH] Mr. SHORT. These two dams are so Chairman, oh, how familiar these to go to the cloakroom, hold prayer for constructed that they are to operate to­ speeches against this proposal sound. a few minutes, and come out and support gether. The success or worth of one of The same crowd and the same words it wholeheartedly. the projects depends pretty largely on they used in opposing the development Mr. SHORT. Will the gentleman the completion of the other project. of the Tennessee Valley Authority and yield? Mr. ELLIS. That is right. -the development of the Columbia River Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. I yield to Mr. SHORT. While you cannot shoot project. I want to ask you: What kind the gentleman from Missouri. these dams at the Japs, they can generate of a predicament would we be in if their Mr. SHORT. May I say for the benefit the power necessary to produce muni­ opposition to the development of the of the RECORD that if the gentleman tions of war to fight the enemy. T. V. A. had prevailed? from Alabama, who has received so much Mr. ELLIS. That is right. In the In 1920 I heard these same arguments benefit from this public power program, Ozark hills are great deposits of manga­ against the completion of Muscle Shoals had not opposed this measure in the Ap­ nese, are great deposits of cinnabar, from Dam. They said, "V7e have a surplus of propriations Committee it would be in which mercury is made; there are great power in that area .." At that time the the bill today. deposits of bauxite, practically all in the American people only usea 40,000,000,000 Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. The Northern Hemisphere, and there are kilowatt-hours a year. This last year w·e gentleman from Missouri is wrong. great deposits of lead and zinc. The Fed­ used 160,000,000,000 kilowatt-hours, and Mr. SHORT. I am not wrong. . eral Government is moving forward. now today the administration is clamoring Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. The to develop these great resources to win for power in every section of the country. ·gentleman from Alabama is not opposed this war. The Federal Government has I am a member of the Rivers and Har­ to this project. told us . that . these projects are neces­ bors Committee that heard the testimony Mr. SHORT. He was in the com­ sary and essential in this program of with reference to the St. Lawrence proj­ mittee. winning the war. ect. Our great leaders came there advo­ Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. That Are you and I going to stand up here cating the building of that dam, and that was because of the parliamentary situa­ and say, "Oh, we know how to win this it would take just about as long to con­ tion. war"? Are we going to stand up here struct this one. Mr. Knudsen said that Mr. SHORT. Has he seen the light? and become obstructionists in a program there never will be enough power in Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. The for the winning of a victory against the America; there will always b~ a shortage. gentleman from Alabama is with us, and Axis Powers? We only used 160,000,000,000 kilowatt­ other Members of the House are going We would not have had this fight ex­ hours last year. Today there are 230,- to be with us. cept for a technicality, except for the 000,000,000 kilowatt-hours of annual This project is in an area where we fact that the committee thought-and production of hydroelectric power run­ are going to need more power if the it wa:s correct-that the $6,500,000 re­ ning to waste in this country that would war continues. All of our high-grade quested by the Budget exceeded the at'l:­ pay for itself, as this will, if the power bauxite comes from Arkansas. There thorization. They cut the item out en­ is developed, and it is in an area that is where we get many of our war ma­ tirely. Then the Army engineers told needs it worse than any other section of terials, and I sincerely trust that every us we should start this project. Tfl.e the country. Member of the House will vote for this Chairman of the Federal Power Commis:.. T'ne time will come when the American amendment. sion told us we must have· this project. people will use 1,000,000,000,000 kilowatt­ [Here the gavel fell:]. That is why he wrote the letter to Chair­ hours of electricity a year. The CHAffiMAN. The Chair recog­ man CANNON. If we must have this proj­ I am glad to know the gentleman from nizes the gentleman from Arkansas [Mr. ect, if it is essential for the war effort, Pennsylvania [Mr. RICH] hopes the war ELLIS]. surely you and I will not stop it. I hope will close so soon. God speed us in that Mr. ELLIS. Mr. Chairman, I am sure you will vote for the amendment. direction. But I am afraid we are in there is one point on which we can all [Here the gavel fell.] for a long-drawn-out conflict. I am agree, that is, that we are determined to The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog­ afraid we will have time to build all win this war regardless of what it takes. nizes the gentleman from Missouri [Mr. these dams and develop all this power On March 9 Chairman Olds, of the PLOESER]. from the St. Lawrence to the l''tio Grande Federal Power Commission wrote Chair­ Mr. PLOESER. Mr. Chairman, yester­ before the war is terminated and peace­ man CANNON, saying among other day I voiced my approval of my colleague ful conditions once more settle down things: the gentleman from Missouri [Mr. upon the world. As you know, I have As you know, the limitations on the manu­ CoCHRAN] in his particular opposition to advocated the development of hydro­ facturers to produce land turbines have be­ Table Rock Dam in Missouri. This is electric power in every . section of the come increasingly serious· on account of the part of the unnecessary spending pro­ country. necessity of pushing to the fullest extent-the gram that persists in the administration Mr. STARNES of Alabama. Will the naval and maritime ship program. The same under the false label of defense. The gentleman yield? manufacturing capacity is utilized for the members of the committee will not be Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. 1 yield production of land and marine turbine misled. I have the confidence that the to the distinguished gentleman from equipment that is used for the production of steam-plant turbines. ' vote will defeat this amendment. In ad­ Alabama. dition, I hope this House, in committee, Mr. STARNES of Alabama. The dis­ He goes on to say that hydroturbines will strike out of this appropriation bill tinguished gentleman from Mississippi can be had for the development of hydro­ the section allocating funds for Bull [Mr. RANKIN] is undoubtedly the ablest electric power in this area and that it is Shoals in Arkansas. I understand that and most ardent advocate of public power very dobtful that steam-turbine genera­ my colleague will introduce an amend­ development in America. I wonder how tors can be had to sufficiently increase ment to strike Bull Shoals from this bill. he welcomes to his ranks this morning the capacity of this Nation. I shall support such an amendment. I · the gentleman from Missouri · [Mr. This great project will have an ulti­ have the confidence that this opinion will SHoRT] to help him, the New Deal, and mate power capacity 9f 120,000 kilowatts, today prevail and thereby save from 2268 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11 $77,000,000 to $90,000,000 of expense un­ row ·and every ounce of energy and every Mr. TERRY. Mr. Chairman, will the necessary at this time. yard of wire and every sack of cement we gentleman yield? Mr. Chairman, I shall vote against this can get to build real defense projects that Mr. POWERS. I am sorry; I cannot amendment. are going to help win this war. I hope it yield. . The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog­ will be the pleasure of the Committee in Mr. STARNES of Alabaxp.a then asked: nizes the gentleman· from Virginia [Mr. this instance, and in other instances, to What great industrial center is in that par.. WooDRUM]. lay aside at least for the time being these ticular area? Mr. WOODRUM of Virginia. Mr. worthy projects until a more opportune Colonel REBER. The Kansas Citys in Mis .. Chairman, I know that public service time, when we can turn to developing the souri and Kansas, and St. Louis, Mo., are often makes strange bedfellows, but I actual resources of our country. Let us probably the closest. never did think you would get a bed big devote all of our interest today to this Mr. STARNES of Alabama. They are over on enough for my friend the gentleman war effort, and do ·not ever go on the the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers? · from Mississippi [Mr. RANKIN] and my assumption that a hydroelectric plant Colonel REBER. Yes. Mr. STARNES of Alabama. How far away is friend the gentleman from Missouri [Mr. that you start to work on now could ever that? SHORT] to sleep in on the power ques­ help win this war. Colonel REBER. St. Louis is about 210 miles tion. But here we are today. I guess There is need for power today, although away, and the Kansas Citys are about 180 it is just another old case that depends they have power to run the industries as miles from Table Rock. on whose baby has the measles. they stand now, and you have· not even . Mr. STARNES of Alabama. Do you not run There is one thing I wish we would started to ration electric power. Go out into the question, then, of the cost of trans• get clear. If we want to go ahead in on the streets of Washington at 7:30 some mission of power· developed there to any de· this emergency-and we are supposed to morning and you will see in the great city fense industry engaged in the war effort? be trying to win a war-and put in some here that they burn the electric lights Colonel REBER. You do face that problem projects in our districts that we would way into the daytime or almost until the of transmission; yes, sir. like to have ·and that under ordinary cir­ sun comes out. A great wealth of elec­ Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. Mr. cumstances would be commendable and tric power could be saved and conserved Chairman, will the gentleman yield? justifiable, why, vote them in; but please for use in war industries if we were ra­ Mr. POWERS. I cannot yield as I do not be under the mistaken thought tioning electric power as we are rationing only have 5 minutes. that this is a war project. It is not that rubber, tires, and other war essentials. When. Table Rock was first advocated, under the widest stretch of the imagina­ A high-ranking representative of the . it was advocated as a flood-control proj­ tion. War Production Board told us a few days ect, not as a power project. The power Mr. SHORT. Mr. Chairman, will the ago-and it is no secret-that while the was incidental. This is borne out by the gentleman yield? President's production objectives, as I report of the Chief of Engineers as con­ Mr.. WOODRUM of Virginia. I am have indicated, which he outlined to the tained in House Document 917, Seventy­ sorry; I have only 5 minutes. Congress several months ago, seemed sixth Congress. In this report the Chief Mr. SHORT. The Army has re­ fantastic at the time, this official said he of Engineers recommended gradual de­ quested it. had every reason to believe now that. they velopment, both as to Bull Shoals and Mr. WOODRUM of Virginia. Yes, I would be accomplished. Table Rock, and, evidently, that was in know it; and what a strange thing to [Here the gavel fell.] - the minds of· the members of the Flood hear my friend from Missouri urging the Mr. POWERS. Mr. Chairman, there Control Committee in authorizing these House to do something because the Pres­ is . very little I can say that would be two projects. ident said do it. nearly as forceful as the speech just made Mr. Chairman, there is rione of our What is the situation. on this project? by the gentleman from Virginia [Mr. national defense program in Table Rock, The President laid down a production WooDRUM]. I do want to point out, and I sincerely hope the amendment is objective that at the time he laid it down however, a few facts to the Members of voted down. seemed fantastic. He said we should this House-cold, hard facts, that cannot Mr. WINTER. Mr. Chairman, will the have 60,000 airplanes in 1942, 125,000 in be refuted. gentleman yield? 1943; 45,000 tanks in 1942; 75,000 in 1943; If you retain Table Rock and if you 8,000,000 tons of shipping in 1942 and a retain Bull Shoals, and an amendment Mr. POWERS. I yield. very much increased amount of shipping on that will come within a very short Mr. WINTER. ·noes the gentleman in 1943. That was his production time, you are committing the CongreSs know that at Lake Catherine, Ark., the schedule in January to win this war. If to an expenditure of $90,000,000. I Government is now constructing its own we can maintain that schedule the war wonder if every Member of this House 120,000-kilowatt plant with which to will be won. But you will never win this knows what $90,000,000 means? It make this bauxite, and will have it done war by electric power that does not come would take the entire income tax paid by in a few months. into being until the· spring of 1945. all Members of the House and Senate­ Mr. POWERS. I did not know that. It_is a fantastic suggestion to say that at the rate of $1,000 or more per year Mr. WINTER. That is the fact, and we should build hydroelectric power now , per Congressman-for a period of 45 private utilities have now agreed to fur­ that does not come into being until 1945, years to pay out $90,000,000. nish in the interim the 65,000 kilowatts and begin the manufacture of aluminum I wonder also what the average tax­ necessary to operate the plant until the in 1945. It takes a year or a year and a payer understands by $90,000,000 in Government's own generating plant is half from the time you make the alumi­ terms of his own income tax? Assuming complete

Mr. SNYDER. Mr. Chairman, let me Had the Terry . amendment carried the The CHAffiMAN. Th~ gentleman will make this explanation: The amendment House would have committed itself to an state it. would permit the initiation of new proj­ additional appropriation of $87,500,000 Mr. POWERS. How much of the time ects, which Mr. Utz, in charge of this according to the argument of the Army allotted for debate of these amendments work, fears that the War Department engineers. You struck out one of these remains? may call upon the Department of Agri­ projects, the Table Rock project; now let The CHAIRMAN. Thirteen minutes culture to perform in connection with us strike out the other, Bull Shoals, and remain. defense projects of one character or an­ stay within the authorization, because, Mr . .POWERS. As ranking minority other. The control of the matter would as I said last night, the Chair has time member of the committee, may I aEk for be left with the War Department, since and again ruled that even though the 5 minutes immediately following the gen­ joint approval by the Secretary of War appropriation is above the authorization, tleman from Arkansas [Mr. TERRY]? and the Secretary of Agriculture is re­ if the job is in progress an amendment The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman quired. That is all that is involved. is in order to go above the authorization; from Arkansas is recognized for 5 min­ Mr. MAY. Who is Mr. Utz? in other words, you are making an addi­ utes. Mr. SNYDER. He is the head of the tional authorization here, unless you do Mr. POWERS. That will leave 8 min­ agricultural unit that has to do with the adopt my amendment, to go above the utes. May I, as ranking minority mem­ Agricultural Department's province in $49,000,000 which the Congress has ber of the committee, be recognized for the flood-control program. Mr. Utz is a already authorized for the White River 4 of the 8 minutes? very capable and efficient official. It was Basin. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman he who indicated the appropriateness of Mr. TERRY. Mr. Chairman, will the from Texas, a member of the committee, curtailing his activity at this time in the gentleman yield? asked for recognition. interest of national defense. He is an Mr. COCHRAN. Just a minute. The Mr. RICH. Mr. Chairman, I, a mem­ exceptional man indeed; a national de­ gentleman had his time. ber of the committee, asked recognition. fense man. There is one plant out there, as I said, The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Mr. MAY. I congratulate the gentle­ a national defense plant, an aluminum Pennsylvania [Mr. RICH] asked for recog­ man. plant. The hearings show they are go­ nition, and he is a member of the Com­ Mr. POWERS. Mr. Chairman, will ing to have their own power plant. mittee. the gentleman yield? They do not need this dam for their Mr. PITTENGER. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. SNYDER. I yield. ·power: they are going to have their own am not a member of the committee and Mr. ·POWERS. There is nothing power plant; that is provided for. The I would like recognition. wrong with the amendment,. and I think Government is building the plant, or, at Mr. MARTIN of Massachusetts. Mr. there should be no further discussion. least, has advanced the money; so let us Chairman, a parliamentary inquiry. The CHAIRMAN. The question is on not include that national defense project The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will the amendment offered by the gentleman on the bauxite field o! Arkansas in say­ ing this is a defense project. I say it is state it. from Pennsylvania LMr. SNYDER]. Mr. MARTIN of Massachusetts. Does The amendment was agreed to. criminal at this time to provide for these projects when you cannot get any power the Chair mean to say that the rankin'g Mr. COCHRAN. Mr. Chairman, I of­ minority member of the subcommittee fer an amendment. from them untii 1945 and might not get it then. having the bill in charge may not have The Clerk read as follows: time? Amendment offered by Mr. CocHRAN: Mr. ELLIS. Mr. Chairman, will the The CHAIRMAN. The Chair stated gentl.~mar .· yield? On page 7, line 5, after the word "law", there would be 8 minute.s remaining for strike out "$144,973,700" and insert "$128,- Mr. COCHRAN. Just a minute. 273,700." . those Members wishing to be heard on Mr. ELLIS. It is 1944 on· this dam. this amendment. Mr. COCHRAN. Mr. Chairman, the Mr. COCHRAN. How about Norfork? Mr. ELLIS. It is 1944, though, on this ·Mr. POWERS. Within those 8 minutes purpose of this amendment is· to com­ probably the gentleman from Pennsyl­ plete the job. It is onJy half done. dam. Mr. COCHRAN. The gentleman has · vania [Mr. SNYDER], chairman of the sub­ When you voted down the amendment committee, will want to say something. offered by the gentleman from Arkansas made statement after statement about the projects in this basin. He has said Certainly I do as ranking minority. I [Mr. TERRY] you struck out the Table am asking that I have 4 niinutes of the Rock project. My amendment proposes almost everybody favors everything he wants. He has quoted almost everybody 8 remaining minutes. to strike out the Bull Shoals project by The CHAIRMAN. I think that is cor­ reducing this appropriation to let the as favoring the project. I was the only one who appeared before the Flood Con­ rect. War Department know that the Congress Mr. POWERS. May I ask that I close of the United States does not · want the trol Committee in opposition to it. I am consistent in my opposition. If I thought debate on the amendment? engineers to go ahead with the Bull · The CHAIRMAN. Is the gentleman Shoals project. for ·a minut"e that this was a national defense .Project, I would vote for it. I for or against the amendment? The Norfork project is already in prog­ Mr. POWERS. I am very much for ress. That is provided for in this bill. will vote for anything that is necessary It will be completed as a power project. to bring this war to a successful conclu­ the amendment. Originally a flood-control project, it is sion, but I am not going to let the plea The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman now a power project. Let us go ahead .of national defense put over projects from Arkansas [Mr. TERRY] is recognized with the Norfork project. Now bear in which, in my humble opinion, are not for 5 minutes. mind YO'\l are not goipg to get any power necessary. Here is an opportunity to Mr. ELLIS. Mr. Chairman, a parlia­ from Norfork until 1945 and will not get save $87,500,000. Let us do so, and use mentary inquiry. it then unless you· get priorities so they that money to buy ships, planes, tanks, The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will can get turbines, generators, and the and other material to win the war. state it. · other machinery necessary to generate [Here the.gavel fell.] Mr. ELLIS. Mr. Chairman, awhile ago power. I do not know whether they are Mr. TERRY and Mr. POWERS rose. I withdrew my objection to proceeding going to get it or not. When I tell you The. CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog- here·. This project is in my district. I that Members of this House today can­ nizes the gentleman from Arkansas [Mr. did not understand the unanimous-con­ not get priorities to buy typewriters for TERRY]. sent request to limit the debate. their offices you will realize how hard Mr. POWERS. Mr. Chairman, I am The CHAIRMAN. The Chair may say it is to get priorities from those in con­ ranking minority member of the com­ to the gentleman from Arkansas that the trol. Your Committee on Accounts is mittee and am seeking recognition. gentleman from Virginia made the re­ trying to get permission to buy type­ The CHAIRMAN. The Chairman flrst quest standing right beside the-gentle­ writers. recognizes the gentleman from Arkansas man and he said he withdrew his objec­ I said last night in opposing the Terry [Mr. TERRY]. tion. amendment that the original authoriza­ Mr. POWERS. Mr. Chairman, a par­ Mr. ELLIS. Mr. Chairman, a further tion for these projects was $49,000,000. liamentary inquiry. parliamentary inquiry. 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2271 The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will should n'ot turn down the recommenda­ Mr. ELLIS. Mr. Chairman, this proj­ state it. tion of the engineers, of the Federal ect on the White River in Arkansas will Mr. ELLIS. Mr. Chairman, will I be Power Commission,. and of the President produce a total of 448,000,000 kilowatt­ permitted to have any of the time that of the United States. According to a hours of electricity a year. It will have is remaining? letter from Mr. Olds, he says that the an ultimate capacity of 336,000 kilowatts. Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I demand electric power produced by these dams In the spring of 1944 the first units of the regular order. will be thrown into a vast power pool this project will be brought in. A total The CHAIRMAN. The regular order for the war program and will be used in of 126,000 kilowatts of firm power will be is demanded. The gentleman from a number of Midwestern States, the five brought in in the spring of 1944. Arkansas is recognized for 5 minutes. States of Mississippi, Missouri, Tennes­ Mr. Chairman, it seems to me we are Mr. TERRY. Mr. Chairman, the see, Arkansas, and Oklahoma. I say creating here at this time a breach in amendment which was adopted a few even though you are against public power our war effort that should not be created. minutes ago knocked out of the bill about and 'in favor of the private utilities, the It seems to me we are endeavoring to tell $2,000,000 to start construction on Table power we will produce from this dam is the President of the United States, the Rock. I feel that the committee prob­ absolutely essential to the war effort and Commander in Chief, the War Depart­ ably felt that my amendment would in­ will be used by both public and private ment, and the Federal Power Commis­ crease the amount over the authorization agencies, and I ask that the amendment sion, which is charged with the responsi­ given by the legislative committee, even be voted down. bility of finding power to prosecute this though approved by the Budget. That is [Here the gavel fell.J war program, how to run a war. I think not a fact, because that amendment Mr. ELLIS. Mr. Chairman, I ask that is not our purpose here in time of would not have been over the Budget or unanimous consent that the time be ex­ war. the authorization. tended 5 minutes and that after the Mr. POWERS. Mr. Chairman, will Here we have an amendment to strike other speakers have spoken I may be the gentleman yield for a correction? out the reservoir project known as Bull heard. Mr. ELLIS. I am sorry. Shoals in northern Arkansas. This proj­ The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection I think that is exactly what we would ect has been highly recommended by the to the request of the gentleman from be doing. We have a war on our hands. Army engineers. Arkansas fMr. ELLIS]? We are told by the Federal Power Com­ On page 65 of the hearings appears the Mr. POWERS. Mr. Chairman, re­ mission that we may have to almost dou­ following: serving the right to object, I shall not ble the power capacity of this Nation Mr. SNYDER. I understand there has been object for the simple reason, as the gen­ in order to win this war. This project considerable opposition by local interests to tleman says, this project is in his dis­ is a hydro project, it is true. Down in the Table Rock project. My recollection is trict, and I think he has a perfect right my State we are developing 120,000 kilo­ that certain people out there maintain that to be heard on it. I could not object to watts of steam power in order to make such power as may be needed in that area a request of that kind. available in that area, where a shortage for defense needs can be furnished more ex­ Mr. RICH. Mr. Chairman, reserving peditiously in other ways and at much less of power exists, sufficient power to carry cost. What have the Army engineers to say the right to object, and I will not object on the war effort . .We need this power. about that? since it is in his district. but last night We need all the power we can get in that General REYBOLD. I doubt that consider­ I had an amendment to present to this area. We have the minerals. we have ably. section; I asked for recognition from the the natural resources. The Nation is Mr. TERRY. Mr. Chairman, will you state .Chair this afternoon; I was recognized calling upon us for that manganese, that what people are making that criticism? once, then things got in a turmoil and lead, that zinc, that mercury, and that Mr. SNYDER. I do not have their names at the Chair forgot to recognize me. aluminum. Those in charge of this war hand. They wrote about it I was trying The CHAffiMAN. The Chair did not to ascertain if the Army engineers endorsed program have said to us that this power the feasibility and virtue of these dam proj­ forget the gentleman. The Chair could is necessary in order to develop these ects on the Arkansas 1White River]? not do that. . resources. General REYBOLD . We do, wholeheartedly. Mr. RICH. The fact of the matter is Mr. SHORT. Mr. Chairman, will the he did not recognize me. If the gentle­ gentleman yield? Mr. Chairman, the engineers say that man from Arkansas has 5 minutes, I this project is neceS'Sary for the war ef­ Mr. ELLIS. I yield to the gentleman think we would be very glad to have 5 from Missouri. fort. Mr. Leland Olds states that these minutes also. projects are essential as a part of the war Mr. SHORT. What the gentleman is program. The President of the United The CHAffiMAN. The gentleman saying is absolutely true, but I hope he States has requested that this Budget from Pennsylvania asks unanimous con­ does not fail to point out to the Mem­ item be sent down here, recommending sent that the time be extended for 10 bers of the House that the construction the inclusion of Bull Shoals as a part of minutes, 5 minutes for the gentleman of Bull Shoals Dam will prevent the flood­ the war program. Since when has this from Arkansas [Mr. ELLIS] and 5 min­ ing of thousands of the most i'ertile farm House started throwing back into the face utes for the gentleman from Pennsyl­ acres you will find in this country. of the Army engineers the recommenda­ vania [Mr. RieHl. Is there objection? Mr. ELLIS. That is true. The Bull tions they have made in behalf of the Mr. DOMENGEAUX. Reserving the Shoals Dam will provide about. one-third war etfort? This Bull Shoals Reservoir right to object, Mr. Chairman, I ask of the flood control that is necessary to will be producing energy and power the unanimous consent that the time be ex­ completely control the devastating floods latter part of 1944. The gentleman from tended t..n additional 5 minutes in order 9f the White River. Virginia has said that if this power is not that I may have an opportunity to speak. Mr. SHORT. We need food as well as produced until 1944, it will be too late. The CHAffiMAN. The gentleman munitions to win the war. I say to the gentleman from .Virginia, from Louisiana asks unanimous consent Mr. ELLIS. That is all true. where does he get this prophetic wisdom that an additional period of 5 minutes, Mr. Chairman, we are faced with an­ to say that the war will be over by 1944? or 15 minutes in all, be granted in order other problem, a problem of getting tur­ We are now building battleships, we are that he may speak on the amendment. bines to supply the additional power that now building great plants all over the Is there objection? is necessary in · this war effort. The country which will not go into production Mr. POWERS. Reserving the right to Chairman of the Federal Power Commis­ until after the time that this dam will be object, Mr. Chairman, I shall not object sion in his letter to Chairman CANNON, producing the energy .that is needed in if I may have my 4 minutes after the which has been read here, pointed out the war effort. other gentlemen have consumed their clearly to us that we may not be able to Mr. WOODRUM of Virginia. Does portion of the 15 minutes. get sufficient turbines now to supply the the gentleman ask me a question? The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection ships we need in our war program, yet the Mr. TERRY. No. to the request of the gentleman from very capacity that is needed to build Mr. WOODRUM of Virginia. I wanted Louisiana? steam turbines is needed to build turbines to tell you where I got the prophetic There was no objection. for these ships. Another kind of capacity information. . The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog­ is needed to build hydro turbines. This, Mr. TERRY. Mr. Chairman, I say to nizes the gentleman from Arkansas [Mr. therefore, would not conflict with the the members of the committee that they ELLIS]. shipbuilding program and would open up 2272 CONGRESSIONAL .RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11 new avenues for the expansion of the first we must win the war; so vote for $37,000,000 for Table Rock. I hope now power program of this Nation. this amendment. that we are going to refuse to authorize Mr. Chairman, I appeal to you, do not [Here the gavel fell.] an eventual appropriation of $50 ,000,000 strike the Bull Shoals Dam out of this The CHAIRMAN. · The Chair recog­ for Bull Shoals. Ninety million dollars bill. nizes the gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. will buy a great quantity of tanks. [Here the gavel fell.] DOMENGEAUX] for 5 minUtes. . Ninety million dollars will buy a lot of The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog­ Mr. DOMENGEAUX. Mr. Chairman, equipment that is more sorely needed nizes the gentleman from Pennsylvania my request was that the time be ex­ now than these two projects, which [Mr. RICH]. tended for 5 additional minutes to allow started as flood-control projects and are Mr. RICH. Mr. Chairman, certainly if me an opportunity to speak on an now sought to be sold to us under the I thought this project we are now consid­ amendment which I propose to offer. guise of power and national defense. ering was vital ·~o the winning of this war, Mr. POWERS. The gentleman then [Here the gavel fell.] I would be for it, but when I look over wishes to spE!ak after the vote on the Mr. SNYDER. Mr. Chairman, I this War Department civil-functions ap­ Cochran amendment? thought everyone would be in favor of propriation bill and realize that we are Mr. DOMENGEAUX. That is correct. leaving this provision in the bill. There appropriating hundreds of millions of Mr. POWERS. Mr. Chairman, this are a number of reasons for this: First, dollars in this bill, it seems to me the Bull Shoals project falls in the same it had the endorsement of the whole com­ flood-control projects we have already category as Table Rock and is not a mittee of the Committee on Appropria­ started are the ones that logacilly should national defense project. The gentle­ tions, it had the prior approval of the be completed. That we should launch man from Arkansas gtated a few mo­ subcommittee in charge of the bill, new projects now, with conditions as they ments ago that power would be developed and then every agency downtown-the are in the country today, seems more like there during April of 1944. I call your War Production Board, the Army, the sheer folly than common sense. attention to a statement made by Colonel Navy, and everybody else having to do Yesterday the Committee on Ways and · Reber on page 76 of the hearings, stating: with defense, have asked for it as a na­ Means brought in here·a bill to raise the Bull Shoals starts to deliver power prac­ tional defense need. national debt limit from $65,000,000,000 tically in 1945; that is, December 1944. It Mr. DITTER.. Mr. Chairman, will the to $125,000,000,000, a jump of $60,000,- will be completed in 1945. gentleman yield? 000,000. The greatest debt this Nation Now it will be completed, Mr. Chair­ Mr. SNYDER. No; the main reason has ever faced is before us, and it will be man, in 1945, provided they have suffi­ I am for this provision is this: This v..- ar upon us very soon. What does this bill cient rainfall and provided they can ob­ is liable to last much longer than any of do in that respect? If you adopt the tain priorities for construction of the us suspect, and we must provide for the amendment offered by the gentleman project. If the rainfall is not sufficient worst and pray that the ·worst will never from Missouri [Mr. CocHRAN], you will and the priorities are not granted, then come. We may be asked, Mr. Chairman, save $50,500,000. You will not do it in it may not be completed in 1960. to move all of our factories from Cali­ this bill, since the amount in this bill is Mr. PLOESER. Mr. Chairman, will fornia to the interior regions, just as $16,700,000, but in order to complete this the gentleman yield? Russia had to do, and I am afraid ·chat project there will be needed $33,700,000 . Mr. POWERS. I yield to the gentle­ if we do not go along with this project additional. We have not done a thing on man. we may later find ourselves guilty of hav­ this project except to survey it. WhY Mr. PLOESER. I would like to ask ing lacked proper vision. If we turn this start something new when it will take us the gentleman from New Jersey if he down it may prove to be as serious as until 1946 to complete it? turning down other essential defense ce­ has any knowledge about a move on the mands. That is what I am fearful of. Mr. ELLIS. Oh, no; 1944. part of 0. P. M., now the War Produc­ Mr. RICH. Or 1945. So I ask the committee to adhere to our tion Board, to· deny priorities on part recommendation. Mr. ELLIS. 1944. of thit other project, the Norfork Mr. RICH. 1945. project? The CHAIRMAN. The question is on Colonel Reber said the first power can the amendment offered by the gentleman Mr. POWERS. I have not any defi­ from Missouri [Mr. CocHRAN]. be delivered at , the Bull Shoals site, as­ nite knowledge, but I have heard they suming, of course, that they have ade­ The question was taken; and on a dlvi­ have been denied priorities, and if they sion (demanded by Mr. CocHRAN) there quate priorities, C'n December 31, 1944, deny priorities on the Norfork project, and that the project would be completed were-ayes 104, noes 65. they will deny them on this project. So the amendment was agreed to. on April 30, 1945. Mr. PLOESER. And all of this is pred­ Three years from now. Mr. DOMENGEAUX. Mr. Chairman, I icated on the assumption that priorities offer the following amendment, which I Three years from now is a long time. wili be allotted. It will be 1945 before this project is send to the desk. Mr. POWERS. It is based on two as­ The Clerk read as follows: completed and it seems to me that if sumptions, that the rainfall is sufficient, we are going to win this war, as sound and also that they get priorities. Page 7, line 5, strike out "$144,973,700" and legislators we must take into. considera­ Mr. COCHRAN. Mr. Chairman, will · insert in lieu thereof "$145,933,700." tion the ordinary procedure to do so, and the gentleman yield? Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairmap, I make when we think of the things that are Mr. POWERS. I yield. • the point of order against the amend­ going against us today, we must realize Mr. COCHRAN. Is it not true that in ment on the ground that there has been that the responsibility now is yours and rejecting the Terry amendment $37,­ a change already in this figure and an­ mine, and you have got to realize that $500,000 was saved? other change cannot be considered. you cannot start a lot of projects just Mr. POWERS. That is correct. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman is because Members of Congress would like Mr. COCHRAN. And is it not true correct. The figure cannot now be to see them established in their districts. that if this amendment is adopted, $50,- amended. Gracious goodness, I would not do a thing 000,000 will be saved? Mr. DOMENGEAUX. Mr. Chairman, against any Member of Congress if I Mr. POWERS. The gentleman is cor­ I ask unanimous consent that the amend­ thought it was going to make for the rect. ment be changed at this time so as to co­ welfare of this Nation, and this is es­ Mr. COCHRAN. Furthermore, is it incide with the amount deducted by the pecially true of some of our friends who not true that if the power dam at Nor­ last amendment. have talked here this afternoon. But fork goes ahead and there is no delay Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I shall be we have got to be able to say "No," and -there, there is money in this bill to con­ glad to reserve the point of order so that that is what this administration has got tinue and complete the Norfork project the gentleman can speak, but I cannot to be able to do. You must do the most and we are not in any way whatever withdraw the point of order. important things first. You have got harming the Norfork project? The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman to say "No" by voting for this amend­ Mr. POWERS. That is correct. from Louisiana is recognized for 5 min­ ment, so we will strike out this appropria­ Now, Mr. Chairman, a few minutes ago. utes. tion at this particular time. If we want the Committee refused to appropriate or Mr. DOMENGEAUX. Mr. Chairman, the privilege to· do the necessary things, authorize an eventual appropriation of the amendment that I have just offered 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2273 provides an increase of $960,000 for the as essential to the winning. of this war This section is also dotted with many initial construction of the Teche Ver­ as munitions, and we of south Louisiana oil fields, and in this emergency, oil is a milion project, situated in the southern are anxious to make our contribution. vital necessity and the completion of portion of southwest Louisiana. The en­ We cannot build munitions, but we can these projects would naturally aid in tire project includes an appropriation of produce food. transporting this oil by water. The pro­ $1,390,000. This project was approved Mr. Chairman, in offering amendments duction of oil in this locality av.erages , by the engineers, and subsequently ap­ to the bill under consideration, I feel that over 85,000 barrels per day. proved by this House during this Con­ I shotild give an explanation to this House Our United States engineers have gress. In addition to that, the National as to the importance of the Teche Ver­ made a complete investigation of these Rivers and Harbors Congress has placed milion and Mermentau projects to our projects and find they are economically this project in classification A. national defense and'the relatively small justified by a ratio of 2 to 3. This ratio I shall try to give you a picture of what cost of completing these projects as com­ is high as compared to other projects has been happening in southwest Loui­ pared to the enormous benefits we would passed by this House; however, from a siana. If it were not my b.onest belief receive and the losses that would proba­ local point of view, when considering the that this project would materially assist bly be prevented. staggering losses experienced and our po­ in our efforts to help out this war, I would These bayous are located in the extreme tential resources, it is a very conserva­ not offer the amendment ·at this time. southern portion of southwest Louisiana. tive figure. These projects involve the These two rivers or bayous as we com­ They empty into the Gulf of Mexico and deepening and widening of . th~se monly call them in Louisiana drain ap­ drain a good portion of the northern part streams. Hardly any material under proximately 1,500,000 acres of fertile al­ of the State. In years past, improvements priority restrictions will be needed for luvial black soil in that section of the have been made to local drainage areas, their completion, most of the work being country. It is the largest rice producing and much work has also been done in the the removal of sediment. When com­ area in America. Cotton, truck farming, form of spillway levees in the·Atchafalaya pleted, we will have opened new routes and sugarcane are some of the crops Basin, which is adjoining. The result has for water transportation connected with planted in· that immediate area. In ad­ been that these streams have been clog­ the intracoastal canal system. We will dition to that 85,000 barrels of oil are ging themselves up with silt, and at the have taken measures to prevent a recur­ produced in that immediate locality and same time are now required to carry more rence of past periodical floods, and we there are the largest salt and sulphur water than formerly. This became very will have a controlled supply of fresh deposits in the world in that immediate apparent in the fall of 1940, when, after water for the irrigation of rice lands. locality. For many years past, and par­ a large rainfall, we experienced the phe­ On several occasions our Secretary of ticularly last April 1940 that section of nomenon of seeing water go upstream in Agriculture, Mr. Wickard, has stated that the country was visited by a flood, which these bayous. This was caused by their "food will win- the war and write the brought about an actual damage to clogged conditions at and near their out­ peace." This section is a veritable bread­ crops, to cattle and livestock. of over $8,- lets. basket, and its production could be dou­ 000,000. Every year we can expect peri­ In this flood alone, losses and damages bled under proper conditions, and the odically a flood in that section of the amounted to about $8,000,000. Many added form of transportation would fur­ country, and it is caused by the al.>cumu­ thousand head of cattle were lost; and as nish an additional means of getting our lation of silt and other deposits in these most of this grazing land is very low, natural resources, such as oil, sulfur, bayous, which prevents natural drain­ even until today some of it has remained salt, lumber, and agricultural products to age. flooded. the points where they are most needed. Mr. PLAUCHE. Mr. Chairman; will Just this past week I received telegrams The completion of these projects is the gentleman yield? from that section, stating that even after definitely of vital necessity to our na­ Mr. DOMENGEAUX. Yes. a slight rainfall much of that land which tional defense program, and in view of Mr. PLAUCHE. Is it not true that the was recently planted is again under water, the small cost as compared to the bene­ Mermentau River project, which was ap­ in which the farmers plead that the Gov­ fits that would be derived, and the fact proved at the same time as the Teche ernment do something to help them pro­ that this section of the country has not - Vermilion project should be developed at tect their crops so that they may produce had the privilege of enjoying any of our the same time, to be effective? more for our national defense effort. The national defense expenditures in the Mr. DOMENGF.AUX. There is no fishing industry and oil industry, which form of contracts or otherwise, ·I ask doubt about that. They are kindred both use boats in their line of endeavor, that my amendment be unanimously projects. they complement one another, have also contacted me urging that every­ approved. and without the completion of both you thing possible be done to open these Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I insist could not expect the relief that the peo­ streams so that they may conduct their upon my point of order. ple of that section are entitled to and if business without the fear of existing haz­ The CHAIRMAN. The point of order we get the relief it will essentially aug­ ards that now damage their boats and is sustained. ment the production of crops, and natu­ cause many delays in their operation. I Mr. NORRELL. Mr. Chairman, I rally develop the oil production. shall be glad to show any Member of this move to strike out the last word. Mr. PLAUCHE. Should the point oi House these letters and telegrams. upon I ask unanimous consent to revise and order be overruled, would the gentleman request. extend my remarks. consent to substitute an amendment to This section of Louisiana is one of the The CHAffiMAN. Without objection, include the $969,800 which has been ap­ most prolific farm sections of this coun­ it is so ordered. proved for the Mermentau Basin project? try insofar as the variety of agricultural There was no objection. Mr. DOMENGEAUX. Gladly. crops are concerned, and the bayous Mr. NORRELL. Mr. Chairman, I am Mr: COLMER. Mr. Chairman, will the mentioned form a natural drainage area very much interested in this part of the gentleman yield? for approximat~ly 1,500,000 acres of appropriation contained in the bill under Mr. DOMENGEAUX. Yes. land, two-thirds of which is under culti­ consideration . . Mr. COLMER. As I understand the vation, and most of the remainder being On April 21, 1927, a portion of the gentleman, this project has received good pasture land for the raising of district of which I have the honor to authorization from the Flood Control stock; however, continued periodic floods represent suffered the most tremendous Committee, and has also received the ap­ are not only reducing the natural wealth and devastating flood recorded in his­ proval of the engineering department of of this section but are having a severe tory. The flood of that year in the al­ the Government. effect upon the social and economic wel­ luvi~l valley of the Mississippi River took Mr. DOMENGEAUX. The gentleman fare of our people. The banks in many a toll of something like 200 lives. ren­ is correct. instances are refusing loans on farms dered approximately 700,000 people Mr. COLMER. I hope the gentleman that were at one time ·very prosperous. homeless for approximately 1 month, and from New York [Mr. TABER] will not in­ Some of the farms originally flooded are inflicted property damage estimated to sist upon his point of order. now under cultivation; however, the· risks be upward of $200,000,000. Since 1927, we Mr. DOMENGEAUX. I thank the of flood, even from small rains, is so have been wanting flood control within gentleman. Mr. Chairman, I think we great that the extension of investment the levee walls of the Mississippi River, all appreciate the fact that food is just capital has been greatly curtailed. but nothing has been done by Congress 2274 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11 during all of these years to accomplish are not entitled to compensation, they 2-foot freeboard over the west side of the this desire on the part of our splendid now take the position that they are en­ river in this· area. citizens. It is commonly known that titled to equal levee protection with their Last year you very kindly passed the flood control in this section of the Mis­ neighbors to the north, south, and east provisions of the Overton-Norrell bill sissippi River is the greatest problem of of the Mississippi River, such levee pro­ and thereby extended to the citizens of its kind in all the world. General Tyler, tection now being possible, according to southeast Arkansas and northern Louisi­ before our Flood Control Committee the testimony and reports of our Army ana a new hope. · We are greatly hearings this year, testified in part as engineers. encouraged. Wo'rk on the levees has al­ follows: In the report of the Army engineers, ready started and if this appropriation It is well known that flood control in the contained in Document No. 90, several is made the work may · be continued. alluvial valley of the lower Mississippi River suggestions for the control of the flood­ through the ensuing year. Additional is the greatest problem of its kind in an the waters of the Mississippi River were appropriation will be asked from year to world. For over 50 years, or perhaps 100.' made. They have been very efficient in year until the levees are constructed · ac~ years, progress on that plan has been con­ cording to the ·bill which passed the House tinuous until the protection now afforded their work and have secured the maxi­ is good-better than anybody 25 years ago mum benefits from several of the meth­ last year. Adequate flood protection thought it would be. ods suggested in House Document No. 90 shall _thereby be extended to the property to reduce the flood hazards of the Missis­ owners residing upon the west side of After the devastating flood of 1927 the sippi River. Some of the methods are the Mississippi River. I hope the ap­ only request our citizens made of the as follows: propriation is made. It has the approval United States was that our National Gov­ First. DrEdging the river annually. of the engineers~ Budget Bureau, Appro­ ernment give us a fair assurance that · Second. Side channels. priations Committee, and the President. the calamity. of 1927 would not again Third. Set-back levees. It continues·the work that you authorized occur. Fourth. Straightening river channel. last year. On May 15, 1928, the Congress of the Fifth. Clearing between levees. I thanlt you·. United States recognized . and accepted Sixth. Forestry work. The Clerk read as follows: national responsibility for flood control Seventh. A multiplicity of other mindr on the main stem or channel of the Mis­ HYDROELECTRIC POWER suggestions. Power plant, Fort Peck Dam, Mont.: sissippi River throughout its alluvial val­ On page 18 of the Commission's report, For completing the construction of the leY .. and adopted the Jadwin plan, as set further to illustrate how successful the hydroelectric power plant at .Fort Peck Dam, forth in House Document No. 90, Seven­ efforts of our Army engineers have been ·Mont., as authorized by the act approvetl tieth Congress. The Jadwin plan. among , in the operation of several methods of May 18, 1938 (52 Stat. 403) ; to remain avail­ other things, provided for diversions flood control, as above mentioned, we able until expended, $1,300.,000. .from the main channel of destructive find that the Mississippi River has been Mr. O'CONNOR. Mr. Chairman, I ask floodwaters in excess of the carrying ca­ shortened between the mouth of the pacity of the then existing levees, the unanimous consent that I be permitted White River and the lower end of the to revise and extend my remarks . .most important of which diversion was Glasscock cut-off approximately 137 the Boeuf floodway in the critical mid­ The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection miles. · This was done by straightening to the request of the gentleman from dle section of the river lying immediately the river channel. It is well established south of the mouth of the Arkansas River Montana rMr. O'CONNOR]? that the Army engineers have very Mr. CASE of South Dakota. Mr. and fl0wing through southeastern Ar­ greatly increased the flood-carrying ca­ kansas into Louisiana designated to carry Chairman, reserving the right to object, pacity of the Mississippi River through I would like to ask the &entleman if he approximately 100,000,000 cubic foot­ · the other methods mentioned above, and, seconds of water, 6 times the volume of is satisfi·sd that this $1,300,000 will com­ . water flowing normally over the Niagara as a consequence, have very greatly re­ plete the construction of the hydroelec­ Falls. duced the height of crest flow lines of tric power plant at Fort Peck? The property owners of that area upon all floods confined between front-line Mr. O'CONNOR. The only informa­ . the passage of the act assumed that it levees. tion I have on the subject is obtained was necessary for the floodway to be con­ General Tyler further testified before from the hearings. I notice that the - structed in order to give the maximum our Flood Control Committee, as follows: Budget or the President sent a special levee benefits possible to the greatest In J 928, when the existing project was request to the committee a::king for area affected by the floods, and while laid down to include a west-side overland $1,300,000 for the purpose of construction they did not desire to sell their property floodway in the middle section, the capacity of the powerhouse, surge tanks, and pen and very greatly hoped for adequate flood of the main river leveed channel was esti­ stocks. mated at about 1,950,000 cubic feet per sec­ Mr. CASE of South Dakota. I call at­ . control, they felt that under the guaranty ond, and the capacity of the tl.oodway at contained in the fifth amendment to the about 1,250,000 cubic feet per second. The tention to the fact that the language Constitution of the United States that capacity of the main river leveed channel reads, "for completing the construction "private property shall not be taken for at Arkansas City is now about 2,600,000 cubic of the hydroelectric power plant at Fort public use without just compensation," feet per second. Had these conditions existed Peck." That places a limitation upon the they were entitled to equal levee protec­ in 1928 serious consideration quite probably appropriation to be made for the Fort tion or just compensation for their prop­ would have been given to confining the proj- Peck hydroelectric power plant. erty. They were willing for the authori­ . ect flood between the main levees, for to Mr. POWE'RS. Mr. Chairman, further do so would not have involved such substan­ reserving the right to object, the Army ties to determine which should be done: -.tial increases in levee heights as were then (1) Levee protection; (2) compensation estimated. .engineers testified that that amount of for property caused by the floodway. I money would complete the project? think it can be said that the property The report of the Mississippi River Mr. CASE of South Dakota. The testi­ owners accepted the decision at that time Commission contained among other mony is that that question was asked with of Congress, that the sacrifice of their things the following statement: respect to the power plant at Bonneville. property in the Boeuf floodway was nec­ Had the flood conditions of today existed I was unable to find a direct statement essary in order to protect the remainder in 1928, consideration also would quite prob­ on Fort Peck. of the alluvial valley of the Mississippi ably have been given then to a west-side Mr. O'CONNOR. Here is the testimony River, and, of coJirse, assumed that they tl.oodway of less capacity than the one recom­ of Colonel Burton, with reference to the ·would receive fair and reasonable com­ mended and adopted. gentleman's question. pensation for their property. After much testimony and extensive These additional funds are required for the To this end a· test suit to collect reason­ arguments the Flood Control Committee construction of the powerhouse, surge tanks, able compensation for their property was finally recommended the adoption of and pen stocks. 'prosecuted through the Supreme Court plan No. 4, which was the provision of These additional funds plus those now on of the United States under the style of the Overton-Norrell bills, with one modi­ hand are required to meet payments under the final contract. * * * By July 1, 1943, Mrs. Julia Caroline Sponenbarger against fication, to wit: That the levees in the it will be ready for the delivery of power. The United States, and the Court's decision Yazoo Basin on the east bank of the Mis­ entire project will probably be completed 6 to was to the effect that they were not en­ sissippi River,· south of Coahoma-Bolivar 9 ' months later. We h ave been requested to titled to compensation. Hence, if they County line in said plan, shall have a expedite the job to produce power. 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2275 That is page 93 of the hearings. Then return to this paragraph for the purpose ered to the Bonneville Administrator for on page 94 Colonel Burton said: of further consideration. sale. We expect that this w111 complete it, unless Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I would Aluminum is one of the essential ma­ there should be a large amount of delay due be willing to have the gentleman strike terials which we must have in larger to the nonreceipt of materials and things of out the last word and make a speech, but quantities than now available if we are that kind which would result in claims on I could not agree to his request. . to achieve the goal of full production in the contract. Barring unexpected happen­ ings of that kind, this will complete 1t. The CHAIRMAN. Objection is heard. order to win the war. The Bonneville The Clerk will read. Dam itself is completed. The water in That is all that the evidence shows as The Clerk read as follows: the Columbia River is available. The to being sufficient to complete the plant. transmission lines are rapidly being com­ The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection Power plant, Bonneville Dam, Columbia pleted, which will provide the facilities to the request of .the gentleman from River, Oreg.: For completing the construction to deliver the power to the manufactur­ of the hydroelectric power plant at Bonne­ .Montana that he may be allowed to ex­ ville Dam, Columbia River, Oreg., as author- ing centers. And it now remains our tend his remarks? . ized by the acts approved August 30, 1935 job to complete the generating units There was no objection. (49 Stat. 1038), and August 20, 1937 (50 Stat. themselves. This appropriation will Mr. O'CONNOR. The amount of $1,- 731), to remain available until expended, mal~e possible putting into active pro­ 300,000 included in this bill is, as pointed $4,166,000. duction the 10 units in this great proj­ out, for the purpose of completion of ect. At Troutdale, near the Bonneville the power plant at Fort Peck. The pri­ Mr. ANGELL. Mr. Chairman, I move 'project itself, in my district·an aluminum mary purpose, of course, in building the to strike out the last word. reduction plant is being rushed to com­ Fort Peck Dam was navigation and flood , The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman is pletion, being one of a number in the control. Power was incidental. The recognized for 5 minutes. Columbia River area. The Bonneville Congress in 1938 provided for the in­ Mr. ANGELL. Mr. Chairm8tn, on yes­ Power Administration is advancing con­ stallation of power facilities. This move terday when we had under discussion struction of 2 transmission lines, 1 of on the part of the Congress was a very under the 5-minute rule H. R. 6736, I 115,000 volts and the other 230,000 volts, wise one. as all who had given the sub­ asked for recognition to urge support of to connect with the Troutdale operation. ject any thought knew that within a the appropriation for the Bonneville Fifty-six Bonneville contracts have al­ srort time there would be a dearth of project, which appears on page 9 of the ready been executed for power, making electric power not only in the north­ bill, calling for an appropriation of a total power commitment of 425,635 western section but throughout the $4,166,000. This amount is in accord­ kilowatts. The total executed contracts United States." ance with the Budget estimate and has and contracts under active negotiation, I yesterday touched upon the potential the support of the committee. This ap­ as reported by the Bonneville Power Ad­ use of this power with reference to min­ propriation will furnish the needed funds ministration, in its release of February 7, ing for such as 'Strategic minerals, and to complete the power installations in aggregate 875,885 kilowatts. so forth. This power will also be used the Bonneville project on the Columbia I urge approval of this appropriation for irrigation covering great sections of River. The project calls for 10 gener­ recommended by the Budget and the llrid country in both Montana and west­ ating units with a capacity of 518,400 committee, so that the Bonneville proj­ ern North Dakota. In places water will kilowatts. As shown by the hearings be­ ect may be completed at the earliest pos­ be pumped to some considerable height to fore the committee, pages 96 and 97, 6 sible moment and the energy put to work attain the necessary purposes. Even of the 10 units have been completed and in supplying bombers and other fighting though power is available in 1943, it is 5 are now in operation, and the remain­ planes for our armed forces. not likely that transmission lines will be ing 4, with the funds provided by this The Clerk read as follows: installed in time to permit the use of this bill, will be completed within a period-of power for irrigation purposes much be­ 2% years. Most of the units will be com­ THE PANAMA CANAL fore the summer of 1944. It was, indeed, pleted long before the final completion of For every expenditure requisite for and in­ a very wise move on the part of the Pres­ the last unit. cident to the maintenance and operation, ident to ask for the appropriation in­ It is unnecessary for me to call to sanitation, and civil government of the Pan­ cluded in this bill, namely, $1,300,000, ama Canal and Can!ll Zone. and construct ion your attention the critical situation con­ of additional facilities, including the follow­ and request that the job of completion fronting· us in our war effort, in our all­ ing: Compensation of all officials and em­ of the power plant be expedited. out effort to furnish fighting aircraft not ployees; foreign and domestic newspapers and Mr. CASE of South Dakota. Mr. only for our forces on the battle fronts periodicals; lawbooks; textbooks and books of Chairman, I move to strike out the last but also for our own defense here in con­ reference; printing and binding, tncludi;ng word. tinental United States. The outstanding printing of annual report; per;5onal services Mr. Chairman, resuming the matter, in deficiency in our fighting strength has in the District of Columbia; purchase or ex­ order that we may have a complete change of typewriting, adding. and other ma­ been aircraft and unquestionably has led chines; maintenance, repair, and operation of understanding as to just what this does, to the adverse results in the engagements motor-propelled and horse-drawn passenger­ I would like to ask the gentleman from which we have had thus far. The pool carrying vehicles; claims for damages to ves­ Montana [Mr. O'CoNNO'R] if he is satis­ of hydroelectric power produced in the sels, cargo, crew, or passengers. as authorized fied under that testimony that this ap­ Columbia River area, and particularly by section 10 of title 2, Canal Zone Code, a.s propriation is sufficient, and whether the the power coming from Bonneville and amended (54 Stat. 387) ; claims for losses of language should remain "for completing Grand Coulee, is furnishing the neces­ or damages to property arising from the con­ the construction"? duct of auth...,rized ~usiness operations; claims sary energy · to produce much of the for damages to property arising from the Mr. O'CONNOR. My judgment is that aluminum going into airplane construc­ maintenance and operation, sanitation, and it would be clearer in the bill if the bill tion. civil government of the Panama Canal. and provided language to the effect that the When Bonneville and Grand Coulee construction of additional facilities; acquisi­ amount would be used for the continua­ shall have been completed, the 518,400 tion of land and land under water, as au­ tion of the construction of the plant. kilowatts at Bonneville, added to the thorized in the Panama Canal Act; expenses However, the ·highest authority says 972,000 kilowatts at Grand Coulee, will incurred in assembling, a.ssorting, storing, re­ $1,300,000 is sufficient to complete the pairi·_g, and ·selling material, machinery. and make a heavy contribution to the needed equipment heretofore or hereafter purchased plant. hydroelectric power for carrying on or acquired for the construction of the Pan­ Mr. CASE of South Dakota. May I aluminum production. General Rey­ ama Canal which are unserviceable or no suggest to the gentleman that I think he bold reported to the committee, as longer needed, to be reimbursed from the should satisfy himself on that point, and shown on page 98 of the hearings, that proceeds of such sale; expenses incident to if there should be some change made in during the calendar year 1941 there were conducting hearings end exaz.aining estimates that language, that he seek to have that for appropriations on the Isthmus; €Xpenses generated 1,480,390,000 kilowatt-hours, incident to any emsrgency arising because of change made in the Senate. which is 86 percent of the maximum pos­ calamity by flood, fire, pest ilence, or like I yield back the remainder of my time. sible energy which could have been gen­ character not foreseen or otherwise provided Mr; O'CONNOR. Mr. Chairman, I ask erated by the equipment installed in that for herein; travel expenses when prescribed unanimous consent that upon the con­ project and utilizing the water available. by the Governor of the Panama Canal to per­ clusion of the reading of the bill we may Of this amount, 98.5 percent was deliv- sons engaged in field work or traveling on 2276 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11 official business; not to exceed $2,000 for point of order, Mr. Chairman, that the reason: It indicates our plebeian stand­ travel and subsistence expenses of members gentleman from Pennsylvania is out of ing. We are not of the autocracy and of the police and fire forces of the Panama the plutocratic group that has fine pages. Canal incident to their special training in order in discussing the St. Lawrence proj­ the United States; transportation, including ect under the 5-minute rule and in read­ We do not have the glossed paper·, the insurance, of public funds and securities be­ ing editorials from some newspaper that tinted pictures, the costly steel engrav­ tween the United States and the Canal Zone; is lambasting the administration and the ings which the majority has at its com­ purchase, construction, repair, replacement, St. Lawrence project. I niake the point mand as a result of the Government pub­ alteration, or enlargement of buildings, struc­ of order that the gentleman is not in licity staffs. All we have are the sheets tures, equipment, and other improvements; order. that the common man can read. Now, and for such other expenses not in the United The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will Mr. Chairman, I should like to read the States as the Governor of the Panama Canal paragraph in question and ask unani­ may ~eem necessary best to promote the main­ proceed in order. tenance and operf!.tion, sanitation, and civil Mr. DITTER. Mr. Chairman, may I mous consent to insert the entire editorial government of the Panama Canal, and con­ first correct my distinguished friend from at this point. struction of additional facilities, all to be ex­ Mississippi for whom I have a high re­ The CHAIRMAN. . That cannot be pended under the direction of the Governor gard by saying that I had not as yet done in the Committee. of the Panama Canal and accounted for as started to read. Up to this point I had Mr. DITTER. I ask unanimous con­ follows: carried on an ad lib discussion entirely. sent that at this point I may include the Mr. DITTER. Mr. Chairman, I move If the subject of the St. Lawrence seaway editorial in its entirety. to strike out the last word. - is so distasteful to my friend from Mis­ The CHAffiMAN. The gentleman will All of us from Pennsylvania know the sissippi who is usually most generous and have to secure that permission in the standing of the Patriot, one of the out­ gracious in debate-- House .. standing newspapers of the State. The Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. Let me Mr. DITTER. I will make that request colloquy that took place at an earlier say to the gentleman from Pennsylvania when we go back into the House. The hour today with reference to the con­ that I objected because this was some of editorial, Mr. Chairman, is a common­ struction of dams and the attitude of the usual anti-St. Lawrence propaganda. sense statement of facts. It is· a strong, my distinguished colleague the gentle­ The CHAffiMAN. The gentlem~n will forthright declaration of principles which man from Pennsylvania [Mr. SNYDER], proceed in order. are sound. It is a timely warning to the who is chairman of the subcommittee, Mr. DITTER. Now I should like to Congress against "pork barrel" legisla­ prompts me to take this time to direct proceed in o:r;der by reading the para­ tion. It is an appe~l t• the men of Penn­ his attention and the attention of the graph to which I refer. sylvania to be on '!;heir guard against House to an outstanding editorial in the Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. Mr. threatened invasions into fields which Patriot under date of March 10. Chairman, reserving the ·right to object, provide the opportunity for thousands of The editorial is entitled "A Threat to before reading that editorial, will the her people for gainful employment. It is Pennsylvania." It is an appeal by an _ gentleman state what paper it is from? . not propaganda such as has been sug­ outstanding journalist and able editor to Mr. DITTER. Mr. Chairman, I had gested. Pennsylvanians to oppose the St. Law­ hoped that someone on the oth.er side The St. Lawrence waterway is not a rence seaway project. Emphasis is laid would ask that question. If the gentle­ new proposal. The administration has in the editorial not only on the expendi­ man knew of the Patriot of Harrisburg urged it for a long time. It was advocated ture of funds and that the seaway has as we who come from Pennsylvania do, before the acceleration of the defense no place in the defense program but it he would know that its publisher is an program. The Florida ship canal, Passa­ emphasizes particularly the threat to the outstanding Democrat. My impression maquoddy, and the St. Lawrence were a coal-mining industry of the State. The has always been that its editorial policy trio, none of which received approval. editorial appealed to me. I should like was Democratic. This is a Democratic More· recently the St. Lawrence project to quote just one paragraph from it, par­ paper. This is not a Republican sheet. has been clothed with a national defense ticularly for the benefit of my colleagues I wanted to compliment the Democratic garb. How it can be finished in time to from Pennsylvania. I am hopeful that Party by showing the change of heart on be of value as a part of the defense pro­ both Republicans and Democrats alike the part of an ou';standing Democratic gram has not been made clear. Where from the Keystone State will stand publisher to give expression in an edi­ we are to get the men, the materials, or shoulder to shoulder in opposing the torial such as this condemning the St. ' the money at this time has not been project known as the St. Lawrence sea­ Lawrence seaway and advancing the shown. How we can afford to divert the way. cause of the coal miners of Pennsylvania. man-hours from our all-out war effort to Mr. SNYDER. Mr. Chairman, will the . His name· is McCormack. this project remains a mystery. gentleman -yield? Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. I am not The issue which involves the coal min­ Mr. DITTER. I will be glad to yield. interested in furthering the welfare of ers, their opportunity to work and earn Mr. SNYDER. I did not know that the coal barons of Pennsylvania, but I · an honest living is not a new one. As the that project was involved in the bill withdraw my objectioa. editorial suggests, we should make every under consideration. Mr. DITTER. Mr. Chairman, I ask effort to revitalize the stricken coal dis- Mr. DITTER. Answering my friend, I unanimous consent to proceed for 2 addi­ - tricts. Is it unreasonable to urge that did not know that we had confined the tional minutes. steps be taken to create rnor~ jobs for discussion in any way, as we have offered The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman idle miners? Is it unreasonable to ad­ these pro forma amendments to items from Pennsylvania asks unanimous con­ vocate the stimulation of tlie industry that were carried in the bill. sent to proceed for 2 additional minutes. and to oppose its suffocation? Is it un­ Mr. SNYDER. We have not. Is there objection? reasonable for Pennsylvanians to guard Mr. DITTER. It seems to me we have There was no objection. against an invasion which strikes at -the gone far afield on other subjects. .I Mr; STARNES of Alabama. Mr. very .heart of its industrial life, and think the St. Lawrence project is within Chairman, will the gentleman yield? - which, if successful, would rob thousands proximate distance of items contained in Mr. DITTER. After I have read one of her sons of their livelihood? the bill. I think it is not only relevant paragraph. But, Mr: Chairman, those of us who but pertinent. So I believe that'the edi­ Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Chairman, oppose the project are not prompted torial I am referring to has a place, and will the gentleman yield right there? solely by our interests in the Keystone it should have a place, particularly in the Mr. DITTER. I must yield to the ma- State. W_ere the project justifiable as .a mind and heart of my distinguished jority leader. · defense effort · every worthy Pennsylva­ friend from the coal-mining district of Mr. McCORMACK. I wanted to call nian would subordinate the interests of the western part of Pennsylvania. the gentleman's attention to something the State to the welfare of the Nation. Mr. HAINES. Mr. Chairman, will the I believe he wants to correct. He re­ Pennsylvania contributes generously to gentleman yield? ferred to this as a Democratic paper, not the support of the Federal Government. Mr. DITTER. No; I cannot yield any . a Republican sheet. I think he ought to It has the right to expect protection. It further at this time. correct that phrase "Republican sheet." is entitled to the maintenance of safe­ Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. Mr. Mr. DITTER. Mr. Chairman, I pur- . guards against-proposals which would rob Chairman, a point of order. I make the posely used the word "sheet," sir, for this. the State of millions of dollars in in- 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2277 vested capital and in invested work op­ One reason Governor James called the Mr. WHITE. The gentleman has portunities. legislature in special session was to consider enumerated here a great many benefits. wartime emergencies. The. threat to Penn­ Mr. PITTENGER. There is the Snake I submit the editorial to which I have sylvania in the St. Lawrence waterway is a. referred: war as well as peacetime danger. The legis­ River in Idaho, and I am in favor of [From the Patriot, Harrisburg, Pa., of March lature. could recognize and meet it with that. 10, 1942] appropriate action. Mr. WHITE. Is not the Pana~a THREAT TO PENNSYLVANIA Canal vital to national defense at thls Mr. PITTENGER. Mr. Chairman, I time? Despite Nation-wide protest, "pork barrel" rise in opposition to the pro forma legislation at Washington still includes pub­ Mr. PITTENGER. Yes; if we did not lic funds for the extravagant and wasteful amendment. have that I do not know what we would St. Lawrence Waterway. Mr. Chairman; I am very much op­ do. I want to say in all seriousness that Camouflaged as a. defense and navigation posed to this amendment. As I read the these power projects in the Arkansas propos~!. it is essentially another Federal bill the pro forma amendment has to do Valley, which is a long, long way from hydroelectric project and, as such, threat­ with the Panama Canal, its mainte­ my home, are of absolute benefit and ens one of Pennsylvania's great bulwarks, the nance, its operation, and other things coal industry and all its dependents. value to the American people, and you connected with it. are going to regret the action you took Should Congress finally approve the St. Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. Mr. Lawrence project, not only would many mil­ this afternoon. lions of tax dollars be taken from the Amer­ Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. VOORHIS of California. Will the ican people for a job that would be years Mr. PITTENGER. I yield. gentleman yield? in building, but afterward and for endless Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. As the Mr. PITTENGER. I yield to the gen­ years, many millions of dollars would be gentlen1an knows, these enemies of t?e · tleman from California. taken from the operators and miners of coal st. Lawrence power project were enemies Mr. VOORHIS of California. I agree because of the substitution of water for also of the Panama Canal. steam in the generation of electricity. Fur­ with the gentleman's last statement. I Mr. PITTENGER. The gentleman is would like to ask him whether he does thermore, it would cut into the supply of .correct; · and they were opposed to the materials urgently needed for war. not feel that in connection with the So rncalculable is likely to be the loss suf­ Panama Canal as they are to-all great things we consider in this House we have fered by Pennsylvania from th~s fantastic projects that are of great benefit to the got to consider them from a purely na­ and uneconomic Federal program that selfish American people. The Panama Canal is tional standpoint and not from the stand­ as well as patriotic interests suggests an a rivers and harbors project~ it is a trans­ point of any one State or section? all-Pennsylvania effort to eliminate it. The portation project; it is in line with these threat to the State's welfare and one of its two projects in the Arkansas valley that Mr. PITTENGER. May I say to the · basic industries is so real that the full ex­ were turned down this afternoon, a move gentleman that the world is on fire. fhis - tent of it should be ascertained by expert that this House will regret. It is in line country is facing a problem it has never . investigation. faced before. If we do-not get rid of the To this enci Governor James would be with the deepening of the Delaware sectional viewpoint, we are doing damage · justified in summoning a non-partisan {)On­ River that makes Philadelphia a port to America. terence of capable Pennsylvanians, who could instead of a little mud fishing hole. plan the raising of su:ffl.cienL funds to employ Mr. CULKIN. Mr. Chairman, will the Mr. VANZANDT. Will the gentleman i experts and engineers to study the paralyz- gentleman yield? yield? Mr. PITTENGER. I yield to the gen­ 1 ing effects, not only on the mining industry, Mr. PITTENGER. I yield. · but the railroads of this State, once the Mr. CULKIN. Is it not a fact, I ask tleman from Pennsylvania. generation of power on the St. Lawrence Mr. VAN ZANDT. We have heard a starts competing with power generated by the gentleman from Minnesota, that ~he same influences that are now opposmg lot of talk about power projects. Can the steam from Pennsylvania coal. gentleman tell us how we can get some of Such a study would reveal to what extent the St. Lawrence seaway attempted to steam-generated power is more economic sabotage the Panama Canal? this power to General MacArthur? than power from the costly installation of Mr. PITI'ENGER. They have at­ Mr. PITTENGER. I will leave that up dams and other works on the St. Lawrence. tempted to sabotage everything that was to the War Production Board, the Army, It could find to what extent the coal mines of benefit to the American people. the Navy, and the Commander in Chief. of the State would be crippled and the loss That is their job. If we all put our shoul­ of coal tonnage the railroads would suffer, I yield to the gentleman from Missis­ sippi. ders to the wheel and develop our domes­ 1f coal now or to be used later in the gener­ tic economy 100 percent we will be dojng ation of electric power loses its present and Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. The gen­ something practical here that will set in potential markets. tleman from New York called the gen­ The findings of such a conference would motion the forces that I hope will bring tleman's attentio~ to the fact that when aid to General MacArthur. · make hard-hitting_ammunition for Pennsyl­ we were trying to build the Panama vania's United States Senators and Congress­ Canal this same old influence, like the Mr. SHAFER of Michigan. Will the men in smashing the St. Lawrence project in Irishman's horsefly he thought was a ·gentleman yield? Washington. Certainly these representatives · Mr. ·PITTENGER. I yield to the gen­ of the people can offer no excuse against hornet-they have changed their suits, tleman from Michigan. doing- their utmost to protect the welfare but we know their voices. They were of their home State. raising the same objections then and Mr. SHAFER of Michigan. I would Federal projects like the St. Lawrence in­ making the same vicious fight aga·nst like to have the gentleman clarify a ques­ flict double punishment on such coal-pro­ the building of the Panama Canal. And tion in my mind. ducing States as Pennsylvania; not only are again let me call attention to the fact Mr. PITTENGER. On th? Panama the taxes of Pennsylvania used to build such they ~ade the same fight against the Canal? projects but later, through competition with Mr. SHAFER of Michigan. Is the gen­ water power, the dollars of investment, capi­ supplementary locks of the Panama tal, wages, railroad rates involved in the Canal. tleman for or against the St. Lawrence mining and transportation of coal are Mr. DITTER. Mr. Chairman, a par­ seaway? · impaired. · liamentary inquiry. Mr. PITTENGER. I am 100 percent As has been said repeatedly, if the Federal The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will in favor of it. Government has concern for the welfare of state it. Mr. DITTER. Will the gentleman Pennsylvanians, it will nurse rath:er than · Mr. DITTER. Does the gentleman yield? curse the ailing coal industry of th1s State. Mr. PITTENGER. I yield to the gen­ Instead of suffocating mining it would stim­ from Minnesota have the floor or does ulate it; revitalize the stricken coal districts; the gentleman from Mississippi have the tleman from Pennsylvania. create more jobs for idle miners; supply floor? Mr. DITTER. I just want to ask hew tonnage for railroads, with corresponding Mr. PITTENGER. Oh, I know who long it is going to take to do this St. Law­ increases in jobs and in mercantile and other has the floor. ·I do not need any advice rence seaway job? sales throughout the State. on transportation or on who has the Mr. PITTENGER. I do not care how Pennsylvania ought not to sit dumb before floor. I am slightly familiar with both long it takes. The sQoner it is started this threat to its welfare-it need not. With subjects. the quicker it is done. We need it now, the findings of an expert commission, Penn­ ·sylvania can go to Washington and "spike" Mr. WHITE. Will the gentleman and we will need it 4 years from now. the St. Lawrence waterway for the unwise, yield? [Here the gavel fell.] ill-timed, discredited fantasy 1ts dreamers Mr. PITTENGER. I yield to the gen­ Mr. WHITTINGTON. Mr. Chairman, have made of it. tleman from Idaho. I move to strike· out the last two words. 2278 - CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11 Mr. Chairman, I am sure that the in­ They have tried to tell you that it Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. Cer­ quiry of the gentleman from Pennsylvania would take years and years to construct tainly, and the cost of that coal. [Mr. DITTER] to the chairman of the sub­ it, the same old argument they used Mr. VOORHIS of California. In a committee the gentleman from Pennsyl­ against the Tennessee Valley Authority; place where you do not have the coal it vania [Mr. SNYDER] was for the purpose the same old argument they used against obviously will not work. of eliciting information although not the developments on the Columbia Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. This. with respect to a matter under consider­ River. Now, as a matter of fact, it power is in the very region where power ation. He undertook to ask the gentle­ would take only 18 months of straight is going to be needed most because of man's attitude with respect to the St. work, if they could work the entire year. the density of population. The people Lawrence seaway project which, of If the weather would permit them to within the distribution radius of this course, is not under consideration. It work the year around, the St. Lawrence project are now overcharged more than · would have been in order, of course, for project can be constructed in 18 months. $400,000,000 a year for their electric a question to have been propounded to Mr. DITTER and Mr. VAN ZANDT lights and power. the gentleman in charge of this pending rose. Mr. CULKIN. Mr. Chairman, will the appropriation bill the gentleman from Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. I yield gentleman yield? Pennsylvania [Mr. SNYDER] with respect to either one of the gentlemen represent­ Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. I yield to his attitude on the principal matter ing the coal districts of Pennsylvania. to the gentleman from New York. under consideration, to wit, flood control. Mr. DITTER. I think the gentleman Mr. CULKIN. The past opposition to Mr. Chairman, after the Common­ is fair enough that he would want me the Bonneville Dam, the Grand Coulee, wealth of Pennsy!vania, for 40 years and to correct something on the record with and the Tennessee Valley Authority, I more, had pleaded and pleaded with the. reference to the district that I represent. assume, covers its face in shame tod:>-!7. Congress of the United States to provide I do not represent a coal district. This . by reason of this power · being for the protection of the great city of Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. I know gravely needed for national defense. Pittsburgh, reminding Congress and the that, but the gentleman is speaking for Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. That is country repeatedly, that the State of the coal ipterests. true. Did not the gentleman just now Pennsylvania had contributed greatly to Mr. DITTER. What I want to say to hear some of them speaking? the revenues of theNatton,it remained for the gentleman is that all I was doing was Mr. CULKIN. l was with them on the Congress under the present adminis­ subscribing to the sentiment of a Demo­ some ot those projects. I plead guilty. tration to adopt, in 1936, the Flood Con­ cratic editor with reference to the St. Today, however, Bonneville, T.V. A., and trol Act, under which one reservoir after Lawrence seaway. Grand Coulee are no\\ an essential part the other-six in all-have been con­ Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. I decline of national defense. We could not make structed, with the assistance of the gen­ to yield furtner. I fear he was reading war without them. I hope history will tleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. SNYDER] some more coal operators' propaganda, not repeat itself in the case of these and under appropriations by the sub­ or railroad propaganda. . gentlemen. committee, of which the gentleman from Mr. VANZANDT. Mr. Chairman, will Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. Of Pennsylvania [Mr. SNYDER] is chairman. the gentleman yield? course, this country would be paralyzed As a result of his championing those Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. I yield if it were not for the Tennessee Valley projects the city of Pittsburgh and the to the gentleman from Pennsylvania. Authority and the developments on the Pittsburgh area are now being protected Mr. VANZANDT. Of course, I repre­ Columbia River. by flood-control reservoirs that have been sent a coal district. Mr. RABAUT. Mr. Chairman, will the constructed under authorizations and , Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. Yes. gentleman yield? appropriations of the Congress of the Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. I yield United States. No Member has been Mr. VANZANDT. Can the gentleman to the gentleman from Michigan. more vigilant and active in behalf of flood tell us when the St. t.awrence seaway bill Mr. RABAUT. Bringing the question control throughout the United States, will reach the floor? of coal into ·the discussion of the St. and especially in Pennsylvania, than the Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. If I had Lawrence seaway is just about as ridicu­ capable and efficient chairman of the my way, it would have been here before lous as if, 25' years ago, producers of subcommittee of the War Department now. I am hopeful that it will be here oats had opposed the manufacture of appropriations for both military and civil within the next few days, or at least in automobiles on the theory that the new functions, the gentleman from Pennsyl­ the next few weeks. gasoline buggies would displace horses vania [Mr. SNYDER J. · Mr. MAY. Mr. Chairman, will the anf' thereby reduce ~he market for oats. Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. Mr. gentleman yield? · Their position would have been no more Chairman, I move to strike out the last Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. I yield absurd than the present position· of the three words. for a question. coal J,>roducers on the St. Lawrence issue . Mr. Chairman, since the gentleman .Mr. MAY. I come froin a coal district. Mr. THOMAS F. FORD. Mr. Chair­ from Pennsylvania [Mr. DITTER J, repre­ Does the gentleman know that Mr. Gano man, will the gentleman yield? senting as he says, the interests of the Dunn, the most noted engineer in .this Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. I yield coal · producers of Pennsylvania, sees· nt country, testified before the Hou.se Appro­ to the gentleman from California. to rise and attack the administration's priations Committee and before the Sen­ Mr. THOMAs-F. FORD. Is it not a program for the development of power ate Appropriations Committee that elec­ fact that the coal consumption in the in the St. Lawrence, may I say to him tricity can be produced cheaper from Tennessee Valley has increased almost that we went through the testimony on coal than it can from hydro? 1,000 percent since the hydroelectric that bill for months and months. We · Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. I do not plants were put in, because they have to had before us the representatives of the know whether he testified to that effect have it for stand:..by plants? administration who are now charged or not, but I know it is not being produced [Here the gavel fell.] with the duty of supplying the imple­ more cheaply. Besides, this power in Mr. McGRANERY. Mr. Chairman, I ments of war, and they all testified that these ·streams belongs to us. It belongs ask unanimous consent that the gentle­ this St. Lawrence dam, this St. Law­ to the American people. It is now going man from Mississippi may proceed for rence power project, that would provide to waste and running w::;t.nton to the sea, 1 additional minute. for the American people more than and it will be doing so for all time to come Mr. DITTER. Reserving the right to 6,000,000,000 kilowatt-hours of electricity unless it is developed. object, Mr. Chairman, I think the gentle­ a year, is absolutely necessary from the . Mr. VOORHIS of California. Mr: man from Pennsylvania should have 5 standpoint of national defense. Not Chairman,will the gentleman yield? minutes rather than 1 minute. My re­ only that, but Mr. Knudsen himself came Mr; RANKIN of Mississippi. I yield to gard for him and his ability is such that before the committee, and when asked if the gentleman from California. I think he should have 5 minutes. we did not already have a surplus of Mr. VOORHIS of California. On. the The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman power, stated: question of whether or not you can pro­ from Pennsylvania has asked unanimous We not only do not have a surplus of duce electricity cheaper with coal, that consent that the gentleman from Mis­ power, but we never will have a surplus of depends altogether on whether you have sissippi be permitted to proceed for 1 power. 'the coal and where you have the coal. additional-mir.ute. Is there objection? 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2279 There was no objection. may be mistaken, but the letters I get themselves a wonderful service if they Mr. McGRANERY. I just wanted indicate that the folks are dissatisfied would keep quiet since Pearl Harbor. half a minute to inform my distinguished with all of us, regardless of party, regard­ Mr. HoFFMAN is one of those gentlemen. friend, the gentleman from Pennsylvar..ia less of our individual records. -They want A man taking the position that the very [Mr. DITTER], that the authoritative us to straighten things out-to be our­ excellent gentleman took on the floor newspaper he held up for the edification selves. These fellows down in the depart­ here, with that ability to talk, I think has of the House, a Democratic newspaper, ments would not like anything better· shed less light on more subjects than any supported Mr. Willkie in 1940. than to have an entirely new Congress, man on the floor since I have been here, Mr HOFFMAN. He is a Democrat. none of whom would be up to any of the but one who voted against everything Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. It cer­ tricks that they like to play. Do you not that was to prepare this Nation for the tainly ought to be in good standing w:lth see where we are cJ.ught? We all may position it is in now, one who voted the power trust if it supported Willkie. be in for taking a licking come November. against drafting soldiers when we needed That answers everything that has been While that may be a good thing for na­ them more than we ever had; one who said on the other side of the aisle. tional defense, the way we are acting or voted against increasing our Navy: one [Here the gavel fell.] failing to act, yet I am sure that is not who voted against every measure we have Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, I a very popular idea here among our­ had up, practically, to prepare this Nation move to strike out the last word. selves. Congress will not be able to duck for defense, should be the last one now Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, any­ the wrath of the people just because some to get up and plague and to :flay and :flail one listening_ to the debate yesterday executive fails in his duty when it is also those who are trying to do something to would have gotten the idea that it was our duty to see that action is taken. go to town and fight our battles when the up to Congress to save a little money Let me read to you what this young Nation is confronted with the danger sometime and that this was the time. man from home-Aubrey Brady-writes: it is now. The folks back home, if my letters are any People out here are beginning to be very Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Chairman, will indication, are still disgusted with Con­ uneasy and some wonderment and bewilder­ the gentleman yield? gress. They have not taken us back into ment is in their conversation, not to mention Mr. PATRICK. Oh, certainly, I could the family circle nor forgiven us for that anger and resentment, at some of the news coming from Washington. not fail to do so. pensions-for-Congressmen business nor Mr. HOFFMAN. I shall not at this for our rubber-stamp qualities. We are Listen to this: time attempt to answer those inaccu­ still on probation. They want to know why it is necessary to racies to show the complete lack of foun• Mr. DITTER. Mr. Chairman, will the be continually voting more money when the dation for the statements to which the gentleman yield? · huge sums previously voted are not used up. gentleman has just given voice. Some Mr. HOFFMAN. I yield to the gentle­ Why are we being given good news of engage­ other occasion will be used for that pur­ man from Pennsylvania. ments for a day .or two, then the Japs win the battle? Where are those men that they . pose and I shall then point out that the Mr. DITTER. I should like to ask the were told were on their way there, with equip­ policies I have advocated we now know gentleman whether he knows that a very ment, etc.? Why are we sending men east were better than those followed, and had substantial number of common-sense when the immediate trouble is·in the Pacific, they been adopted we would not now be Democrats supported Willkie last year which is west? When are those people who in the unprepared condition in which we just the way the editor of this paper did? are telling us .re don't know what it is all :find ourselves. I ask the gentleman this Mr. HOFFMAN. I do not know much about going to start proving they know what question: Was the potato peeling which about that Willkie campaign. I have it is all about? Our people, like all others the gentleman carried on while acting as who are thinkhlg, do know what it is all tried to forget as much of it as 1 could. about. How can they help it, with their a picket down at the White House a de­ This is what I wanted to say. Talking sons, brothers, husbands, fathers, neighbors fense activity? in a large store operated by a couple of in the service; when they are being forced Mr. PATRICK. Yes; it was, because farmers who have made a success of from work, buying bonds, paying taxes, the gentleman knows he begged me for . merchandising as well as of farming­ skimping to keep going on, without asking the peelings to keep them as souvenirs. farmers sometimes· operate stores in for help, and then being told that they do The CHAffiMAN. The time of the Michigan when they get ahead a little not realize how serious it is. Do you people gentleman from Alabama has expired. bit-they asked me. "What are you fel­ in Congress really think we are simple be­ cause we are not on a Government pay roll The Clerk read as follows: lows doing down there in Washington?" somewhere? SEc. 3. No part of any appropriation con­ I said-and this was more than a year What they [our people J would like to know tained in this Act or authorized hereby to ago-"Oh, you know we ·are spending is this: When are. we going on the offensive; be expended shall be used to pay the com­ some more money." One word brought when are we going to attack where it will pensation of any officer or employee of the on another, until several were taking hurt? If our forces are not ready, when will Government of the United. States, or of any part, and the remarks became real per­ they be ready? Are all of our officers Mc­ agency the majority of the stock of which sonal. One fellow jumped all over me Cl'ellans except MacArthur? Clare, these is owned by the Government of the United · and he said, "You have not done a thing people are tired of being treated like simple­ States, whose post of duty is in continental tons and cowards by the people who are United States unless such person is a citizen down there but just talk, and you have running this war. of the United States, or a person in the not gotten anywhere." I told him I service of the United States on the date of had but 1 vote out of 435. Another There is food for thought and reason the approval of this Act who being eligible fellow said-they were both friends of for action packed in that letter. for citizenship had theretofore filed a decla­ mine-"Clare is one .1t the best of them [Here the gavel fell.J ration of intention to become a citizen or down there." Naturally I did not dispute who owes allegiance to the United States. Mr. PATRICK. Mr. Chairman, I move This section shall not apply to citizens of the that; he said that I was doing all right to strike out the last four words. Commonwealth of the Philippines. here, and then the :first man said, "Yes; Mr. Chairman, I will confess that I ·do I know he is, but," he said, "the whole have the advantage of the radio. It took Mr. MAHON. Mr. Chairman, I move blankity-blank outfit does not amount to me 4 years to learn that. I did not have to strike out the last word. a tinker's damn." Now, Mr. Chairman, a monopoly of the :floor. I had to yield I had sought recognition earlier in the there are a lot of folks who think that that to the gentleman from Michigan debate, but what I have to say will be same way. We have given blank checks; [Mr. HoFFMAN]. I wish to say that those equally appropriate here. Appropria­ we have tried to shirk responsibility. We two gentlemen who told him that certain tions. for our vital installations in the do not insist upon protection for workers. Members of Congress would have to go Panama Canal Zone are before us in this We let money be wasted. back home or quit shooting off their paragraph, but they are not in dispute, Mr. PATRICK. Mr. Chairman, will mouths too much, certainly were his and I should like to speak in a general the gentleman yield? friends. He recognizes the fact they are way about another extremely important Mr. HOFFMAN. No; you have the friends of his and he does not realize just matter. radio-a broadcast-every few days. I what good friends they were, as is patent Today in making appropriations of have not. by the consistent behavior the gentleman public money consideration should be Now there is no joke about the way has followed. given to one question and one question the people are acting and talking about Now, there are a few gentlemen here alone: How will this appropriation con­ Congress. Let me tell you something. I on the floor of the House that would do tribute to the winning of the war and 2280 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD~HOUSE MARCH 11 the saving of American lives? All other OFFICE SPACE USED IN WASHINGTON tive Office," and acts making appropriations questions, however important they may Mr. MAHON. We need office space in Wash­ for the Military and Naval Establishments, be in peacetime, are absolutely unimpor­ ington rather badly for defense agencies. shall be used for the purchase or exchange How much room do you occupy? of any motor-propelled passenger-carrying tant and unworthy of consideration at vehicle without the specific approval of the this time. Mr. MAHON. Would you put in the record Secretary of War and the Secretary of the An unhappy situation exists in many of Navy. the Government departments. The divi­ approximately the number of square feet that sion chief in the bureau wants to glorify you use for office space? Mr. RABAUT. Mr. Chairman, I offer Mr. UTz. Yes, sir. The 77 people now em­ the following amendment, which I send himself and his division by grasping as ployed in Washington use 8,625 square feet of much money as possible for his division space. About 500 square feet of this space to the desk. and by having under his direction the will be released April 1. The Clerk read as follows: largest possible number of people. The Mr. MAHON. The Government is in need of . Amendment offered by Mr. RABAUT: Page more money he spends and the more peo­ highly specialized people. Nearly all of your 18, line 5, strike out the words "without the ple he employs the more important he people are college men? specific approval of" and insert "if such pur­ Mr. UTz. Yes, sir. chase or exchange interferes with the priori­ feels himself to be. He does not devise Mr. MAHON. Well trained? ties or quotas for military and naval pur­ means of reducing the number of his em­ Mr. UTz. Yes. sir. poses, as determined respectively by." · ployees and the amount of money spent. Mr. MAHON. Many of them engineers? He does exactly the opposite. This prac­ Mr UTz. Not as many as we really need. Mr. TABER rose. tice is indefensible in time of peace, and We have lost more engineers than from any Mr. SNYDER. Mr. Chairman, we ac­ in time of war it is nothing short of dis­ other .group. cept the amendment. loyalty to the Government. This prac­ Mr. MAHON. But you are glad to lose them Mr. TABER. I reserve the point of for the war. order· on the amendment, Mr. Chairman. tice must be stopped. Mr. UTz. Yes, sir. Mr. Munns just tells me In this particular bill for the civil func­ that most of the engineers we still have left Mr. RABAUT. Mr. Chairman, I sub­ tions of the War Department there was are above draft age. mit that the point of order comes too originally an item of one-half million Mr. MAHON. But they are not necessarily late. The purpose of this amendment is dollars for flood-control surveys and above the age of usefulness, are they? clarifying. Here we have the Army and studies, a work of importance but having Mr. UTz. No. the Navy, the two busiest agencies of the no direct relation to .the war effort. This • • Federal Government. According to the work was begun in 1938. Nine mil.lion Mr. MAHON. I do not mean to appear an­ anguage in the· bill every person from a dollars have been spent in surveys and tagonistic-! am very strong for this pro­ doctor to the 10,000 employees of the gram of soil conservation; I am just asking F. B. I. would be required to go to the plans, but actual work has been begun these questions in order to make up my upon only one project. Two hundred and mind whether I, as one Member of Congress, Army and Navy for ,permission to buy or seventy-five million dollars of proposed am willing to go along with a continuation exchange a car. It is just another job work has been surveyed and plans m~. de ·of this program when the world is on fire. placed upon the two agencies of the Gov­ for actual development. This gives a Will you also advis€: me approximately how ernment that now have a great amount good backlog of work which will be avail­ much money it would cost to . carry out the of work, more than they can possibly do able for immediate consideration after $9,000,000 worth of plans that you have made at the present time. To put it in the lan­ the end of the war. since 1938; that is, to develop the projects guage of the street, they already have This work is directed in the Depart­ that you have planned? their hands full. What does this pro­ Mr. UTz. I suspect that it would run to It ment of Agriculture by Mr. E. J. Utz, a somewhere around $275,000,000 or above. posed amendment do? strikes out on man of fine ability and high degree of Mr. MAHON. In other words, the idea of page 18 of the bill the words "without patriotism. In evidence thereof I quote planning now for the time when the war is specific approval of" and inserts "if such the following from the hearings on this over, which is a very indefinite thing, would a purchase or exchange interferes with Wll: - , not hold so well, because ·we have already the priorities or quotas for military and Mr. MAHON. I think we are interested in planned a lot of thing::; that would take a naval purposes as determined respec­ this country, in trying to eliminate work that long time to complete? tively by" the Secretary of War and the can be suspended for the time on account Mr.. UTZ. Yes, sir. Secretary of the Navy. In other words, it of the war. I am wondering if, in connec­ And so the half-million-dollar item gives priority to the Army and the Navy tion with this item, you could almost fold up ·was eliminated from the bill in committee. for the purposes you desire, and stops this thing until the war is over. every Tom, Dick, and Harry from requir­ · Mr. UTz. Yes; we could fold this up. Of A tremendous sum of money can be course, we have to recognize that we have a lot saved for the war effort if we will sus­ ing their decision in every specific case of work here that is not completed. There pend for the duration of the war non­ of purchasing or exchanging an-automo­ would be considerable waste, because we essential projects and programs however bile. This is a good amendment and could not get the same people back to pick attractive they may be as peacetime proj­ should pass. up where we left off. It would be very waste­ ects. And what is equally important, Mr. SNYDER. Mr. Chairman, the ful. But if it is essential to do that in con­ essential manpower will be released for committee accepts the amendment. nection with the war, I do not think there the winning of the war. The CHAIRMAN. The question is on is anything that cannot be eliminated at the amendment offered by the gentleman this time - There is no doubt but that millions Mr. MAHON. It just impresses me this way: of dollars are being spent on Govern­ from Michigan. You have referred to these projects, from the ment employees and projects which could The amendment was agreed to. Kickapoo River, in Wisconsin, on down the be eliminated altogether or at least sus­ The Clerk read as follows: line, to many of them in Texas, in which the pended until the war is over. SEc. 7. This act may be cited as the "War people, even those who live in those areas, are Department Civil Appropriation Act, 1943." not as much interested as they are in the I reassert the necessity of testing every war; they are interested in the war more appropriation item with the question: .Mr. CANNON of Missouri. Mr. Chair­ than they are in this long-range planning. How will this appropriation contribute to man, I wish to say a word in appreciation And, as you know, planning never comes to the winning of the war and the saving of of the form in which the bill has been an end. American lives? . presented to the House, and of the ad­ Now, you have worked on this since 1938 This test is sound, and you may be and not a spade bas been turned actually to mirable way in which it has been handled prevent erosion, bas there? sure that it will meet with the hearty by the distinguished gentleman from Mr. UTZ. Yes; there has; on the Los Angeles approval of those who are paying their Pennsylvania [Mr. SNYDER]. His sub­ project. taxes this month and who are confronted committee has had the primary respon­ Mr. MAHON. That is the only place where with higher taxes in the immediate fu­ sibility for the appropriations providing you have actually done anything but plan? ture. It will also.meet with the approval for the War Department, and to them is Mr. UTz. That is the only place where funds of American sons who face the enemy on due in large part the advanced degree have been released to us with which to start the battle fronts of the world. of preparedness · in which the country actual control work. Mr. MAHON. And about all that will happen The Clerk read as follows: finds itself at this critical time. 1!' we suspended the operation of your agency SEc. 6 No part of any money appropriated The gentleman from Pennsylvania is now would be a suspension of plans? by this act or any other act, except the perhaps as well acquainted with the Mili­ Mr. UTz. That is correct. appropriation "Contingent expenses, Execu- tary Establishment and its needs as any 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2281 Member of either the House or the Sen­ The bill was ordered to be engrossed For that combined strength we can ate. He has made frequent personal in­ and read a third time. and was read the thank the decision we took a year ago spection of facilities, both here and third time. today. With that combined strength we abroad, and has a wide and intimate ac­ The SPEAKER. The question is on go forward along the steep road to vic­ quaintance with the activities for which the passage of the bill. tory. the bill provides. It was through his The bill was passed. FRANKLIN 0. RooSEVELT. earnest suggestion that the tests were A motion to reconsider was laid on the THE WHITE :. .-lousE , March 11, 1942. made which resulted in the adoption of table. W. M. HURLEY AND JOE WHITSON-VETO the Garand rifle, so highly praised by LEND-LEASE ACT-MESSAGE FROM THE MESSAGE (H. DOC. NO. 660) General MacArthur in his report from PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES Bataan. · (H. DOC. NO. 661) The SPEAKER laid before the House Equal credit is due the gentleman from The SPEAKER laid before the House the following veto message from the New Jersey [Mr. POWERS], and both the the following message from the President President of the United States which was majority and minority members of the of the United States which was read by read by the Clerk: subcommittee. Too much cannot be said the Clerk, and together with the ac­ in commendation of their work on the companying papers referred to the Com­ To the House of Representatives: annual bills, the supplementary bills, and mittee on Foreign Affairs, and ordered I return herewith, without my ap­ the bill now before the House. At a time printed: · proval, H. R. 3200, a bill "Conferring when the need of Army personnel and jurisdiction upon the United States Dis­ armament was a much mooted question, To the Congress o/ the United States: trict Court for the Eastern District- of and frequently in the face of bitter criti­ I am transmitting herewith to the Arkansas to hear, determine, and render cism, they sponsored appropriations Congress a report on the first year of judgment upon the claims of W. M. Hur­ without which the Army and the country lend-lease operations. · ley and Joe Whitson." would today find itself in an embarassing One year ago, in passing the Lend­ The bill would confer jurisdiction on state of unpreparedness. No agency of Lease Act, the American people dedicat­ the court to adjudicate the claims of W. the Congress has exhibited a higher de­ ed their material resources to the defeat M. Hurley and Joe Whitson, of North gree of patriotism or statesmanship. of the Axis. We knew then that to Little Rock, Ark., against the United They are entitled to the appreciation of strengthen those who were fighting the States f.or alleged damages resulting from· the Congress and the country. Axis was to strengthen the United States. the breaking of a dike constructed by the Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I rise in We recognized then the lesson that has United States Government on the Arkan-· opposition to the pro forma amendment. since been hammered home to us by sas River near property belonging to For many years the gentleman from New Axis treachery and Axis arms-that the them. Jersey [Mr. PowERS] has been the rank­ rulers of Germany anJ Japan would nev­ On October 14, 1940, I withheld my ap­ ing minority member of this subcommit­ er stop until they were thrown from proval from a bill (H. R. 775) author­ tee. His efforts to bring in a coordinated power or America was forced to its knees. izing payment of the sum of $500 to bill for national defense have been out­ Now that we have had to dedicate our W. M. Hurley and the sum of $1,500 to standing. It is largely due to his efforts manpower as well as our material re­ Joe Whitson for damages to their prop­ that the Congress has provided large sources to the defeat of the Axis, the erty as the result of the alleged failure sums of money to provide for experimen­ American people know the wisdom of of the United States to keep in repair a tation and development of our airplane the step they took L year ago today. Ciike constructed on the Arkansas River. and the other implements of war.· I Had not the nations fighting aggression I pointed cut in my veto message that think the Congress of the United States been strengthened and sustained-their in making this improvement for the ben­ and the people at this time owe to Mr. armed forces with weapons, their fac­ efit of navigation the Government did PowERS a great debt of gratitude. He tories with materials, their people with not irilpliedly contract with adjoining or has done a :wonderful job. food-our presently grave pcsition might nearby landowners or assume a moral [Here the gavel fell.J indeed be desperate. But for the contin­ obligation to keep it in repair and pro­ Mr. SNYDER. Mr. Chairman, I move ued 'resistance of these steadfast peoples, tect them from the consequences of a that the Committee do now rise and re­ the full force of the enemy might now break, and that it had not been shown port the bill taLk to the House with sun­ be battering at our. own ports and gate­ that the improvement itself, either di­ dry amendments, with the recommenda­ ways. rectly or indirectly, caused the damage tion that the amendments be agreed to Lend-lease has given us experience to the property of the claimants but and the bill as amended do pass. with which to fight the aggressor. Lend­ rather was the result of unprecedented The motion was agreed to. lease has expanded our productive ca­ high river conditions obtaining in Feb­ Accordingly the Committee rose; and pacity for the buildin:; of guns and tanks ruary 1938, and the impingement of the the Speaker having resumed the chair, and planes and ships. The weapons we flood water due to the dumping of old Mr. BuLWINKLE, Chairman of the Com­ made and shipped have been tested in automobiles and other refuse in the river. mittee of the Whole House on the state actual combat on a dozen battlefields, If it is the wish of the Congress that of the Union, reported that that Com­ teaching lessons of untold value. the court be given jurisdiction to pass mittee had had under consideration the Lend-lense is now a prime mechanism upon the merits of this case, such juris­ bill H. R. 6736, and · directed him to through which the United Nations are diction should be granted on a basis which report the same back to the house with pooling their entire resources. Under would protect the interests of the Fed­ sundry amendments, with the recom­ the Lend-Lease Act, we send our arms eral Government. mendation that the amendments be and materials to the places where .they · The provisions of the bill under con­ agreed to and the bill as amended do can best be used in the battle against the sideration art at least ambiguous as they pass. Axis. Through reciprocal lend-lease fail to provide that the Government Mr. SNYDER. Mr. Speaker, I move provisions we receive arms and materials should be liable only in the event that the previous question on the bill and all from the other United Nations when they negligence on its part is -shown and are amendments to final passage. can best be used by us. subject to an interpretation that th~ Gov­ The previous question was ordered. The war can only be won by contact ernment assumes liability for the dam­ The SPEAKER. Is a separate vote with the enemies, and by attack upon ages. if they are established, without re­ demanded on any amendment? If not, them. That takes time,. for the United quiring proof of negligence. Regardless the chair will put them en grosse. Nations need more and still more equip­ of any other considerations, the court The question is on agreeing to the ment and transportation. Success will should not be given jurisdiction in such amendments. come dearly, at the price of defeats and a manner as will enable it to render judg­ The amendments were agreed to. losses. The offensive that the United ment in favor of the claimants unless it The SPEAKER. The question is on Nations must and will drive into the found that there was negligence on the the engrossment and third reading of the heart of the Axis will take the en tire part of the Government, which resulted bill. strength that we possess. in the property damage. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11 I regret, therefore, that I find it neces­ today and 'tomorrow to keep us busy, it decided on 3 hours, that. the time for sary to withhold my approval from the could go over until Friday. general debate be fixed-at 2 hours. bill. Mr. McCORMACK. I think there will The SPEAKER. The gentleman from FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT. be enough debate on this bill tomorrow New York asks· unanimous consent that The WHITE HousE, March 11, 1942. to consume the afternoon. That is my general debate on the resolution be ex­ impression. tended to 2 hoUrs. Is there objection? The SPEAKER. The objections of the [Here· the gavel fell.] Mr. HOFFMAN. Mr. Speaker, I President will be spread at large upon the SELECT COMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE object. Journal and the message and bill referred UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, I yield to the Committee on Claims, and ordered . myself 5 minutes. . printed. Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, I under­ The SPEAKER. The gentleman from ORDER OF BUSINE~S stand I am to be recognized to ask for Illinois is recognized for 5 minutes. consideration of House Resolution 420. 'Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, I will pro­ Mr. MARTIN' of Massachusetts. Mr. In that connection I am going to: ask Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to ceed for a few minutes only in order that unanimous consent that I may have 15 I may keep faith with those gentlemen proceed for 1 minute .. additional minutes, for this reason: Orig~ The.SPEAKER. ;Is there objection?· to whom I promised time. Personally, I inally the Rules Committee voted for 3 feel that we, and the country likewise, There was no objection. hours' general debate. Yesterday that Mr. MARTIN of Massachusetts. Mr. have much more important matters to was rescinded, and only 1 hour has been take up our time than debating a reso­ Speaker, I would like to find out, if I permitted ul)der the general rules. of the could. from the majority leader what lution extending the life of the Dies com­ House. I have made some promises tQ mittee. rhe committee has already been the legislative program will pe for the · Members, believing that the 3 hours rest of the day? investigating for 3 years and 10 months would be forthcoming. I have done and has expended $385,000--more than Mr. McCORMACK. Of course, the everything in my power to try to s~tisfy Dles resolution will be taken up immedi­ any other committee in the history of the a few gentlemen who have asked me :(or House-and; in addition, nearly an addi­ ately and the debate will be for 1 hour, time, and therefore I would appreciate it as I understand. After that we will tional $90,000 has been expended for· if I could have unanimous con'sent fo'r 15 , printing. · take up the Department of Agriculture additional mirnites. appropriation bill in the hope of d:s­ Mr. FISH. Reserving' the right tp. ob­ I regret that I am obliged to oppose posing of the parity provision this after­ ject, Mr. Speaker, I have no objection the passage of the resolution to continue noon. if the minority side could also have 15 the· Dies committee, because it has failed Mr. MARTIN of Massachusetts. We minutes. We bave a great number -of to penetrate and investigate the real will probably get through with parity and requests on this side. I would be verY Fascists and. Nazis of this country that · that is all as far as the agricultural are really the greatest danger to our glad to have the request granted, but ft is country. appropriation bill is concerned today? a very bad precedent to establish if the Mr. McCORMACK. That would be gentleman should conf:ine it to 15 min­ Mr. Speaker, in view of the fact that my suggestion to. the extent to which we the time has been taken away from me utes for himself only. that I originally intended to have, I ask should go today. After the Department Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Speaker, I object. of Agriculture appropriation bill is con­ unanimous consent to revise and extend Mr. SABATH. I am doing so because my remarks. cluded the Rogers bill will be taken qp. of the fact that at the time when the The gentleman asked me personally a 3 hours were rescinde.d-- The SPEAKER. Without objection, it few moments ago about the Rogers bill. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from is so ordered. That will come next in order after the New York [Mr. ANDREWS] has already There was no objection. appropriation bill. objected. Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, I origi­ Mr. MAY. Mr. Speaker, will the gen-· Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, I call up nally helped to create the Dies commit­ tleman yield? House Resolution 420, and ask for its tee, and in great measure was responsible Mr. McCORMACK. I yield. immediate consideration. for the gentleman from Texas being Mr. MAY. Is it probably the fact that The Clerk read as follows: made chairman of that committee. we will not reach the Rogers bill before At that time, he· assured me that the Friday, or may that be reached tomor­ Resolved, That the Special Committee to committee under his chairmanship would Investigate Un-Amer'lcan Activities is au~ row? thorized to continue the investigation be­ continue to penetrate all subversive and Mr. McCORMACK. I wish I could gun under authority of Hotlse Resolution 282 uh-American activities that wer-: brought answer the gentleman, but that depends of the Seventy-fifth Congress, and continued to light by the McCormack-Dickstein entirely upon the House and how long under House Resolution 26 of the Seventy­ committee. However, within a few the debate continues. The Rogers bill is sixth Congress, and continued under House months, I was obliged to urge him to pro­ next in order after the Department of Resolution 321 of the Seventy-sixth Congress, ceed to investigate these Nazi un-Ameri­ and continued 'uhder House Resolution 90 of Agriculture appropriation bill. I am the Seventy-seventh Congress, and for such can activities as he had promisej. • hopeful that the situation will be such purposes said committee shall have the same Personally I know Mr. DIES is a very that we can finish those two matters power and authority as that conferred upon capable and resourceful gentleman. He this week and the House can adjourn over it by said House Resolution 282 of the Sev­ is a splendid publicist and has received Saturday. enty-fifth Congress and shall report to the greater publicity than · any Member in Mr. MARTIN of Massachusetts. The House as soon as practicable, but not later the United States because of the speeches Department of Agriculture appropriation . than January 3. 1943, the results of its in­ and releases he has made and issued vestigations, together with its recommenda­ bill and then the Rogers bill? tions for necessary legislation. from time to time. Mr. McCORMACK. The Rogers bill Unfortunately he has failed to keep can come up on Friday if the situation The SPEAKER. The gentleman from the pledge that he made to the House is such that it may be considered at Illinois is recognized for 1 hour. and to me to carry on the work for which that time. Mr. SABATH. I presume the gentle­ his committee was created. I regret Mr. MAY. I wond~ if we could not man from New York wishes me to yield that, notwithstanding his ability, he has agree to let the Rogers bill come up on him the usual time? permitted himself to be misled by shrewd Friday? Mr. FISH. The usual 30 minutes, and vicious Nazi-Fascist propagandists. Mr. McCORMACK. Of course, it is not 29%. In this connection, George Sylvester next in order. You cannot displace the Mr. SABA TH. I was in hopes, in view Viereck and the many' Nazi-Fascist Department of .Agriculture appropria­ of what has been said, that the gentle­ agents and propagandists have succeeded tion bill with the Rogers bill, so it fol-· man would not ask for more than 20 in diverting attention from their activi­ lows this bill. minutes that I might have a chance to ties by continuously charging everyone Mr. MAY. I did not want to displace keep the promises I made. who has tried to unmask them and their it. I would rather it would come up on Mr. MARCANTONIO. Mr. Speaker, I stooges with being Communists or con­ Friday, if possible, than tomorrow. If ask unanimous consent, in view of the nected with organizations with commu­ we are sure we can have enough to do fact that the Committee had originally nistic leanings. They have succeeded in 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECOR.D-HOUSE 2283 imposing, yes, misleading, Members of Sullivan served as chief investigator for In the best interests of the country, I this House as well as Members of the the Dies committee. appeal to those Members of this, as well other body. On the other hand and at John B. Trevor and Walter Steele, of as the other body, who may have per­ the same time, Mr. DIES has branded the American Coalition, affiliated with mitted themselves to be imposed upon hundreds of labor leaders and honest, Nazi groups. Intimates of Gerald Winrod by shrewd, conniving Nazi-Fascist propa­ well-meaning Americans who believe in and James True. gandists, to now unite in the vital task of progressive legislation, yes, humane New Walter o. Ogden of the Christian Front. winning this war. Deal policies, as . Communists and So­ Fourteen members of this front were I realize that, regardless of what evi­ cialists. indicted in Brooklyn for seditious activi­ dence is offered against the adoption of Despite his statements to the contrary, ties. this resolution, that it wm pass the I must charge that he has not, as re­ Father Coughlin, Social Justice. Tied House, but and notwithstanding the fact lentlessly as he should have, investigated up with Christian Front and Christian that it. will in a great measure interfere the Nazi Fascist leaders and propa­ Mobilizers. Coughlin nominated Dies for and conflict with the investigation that gandists. From information I have, all President in 1940. is now being made by the F. B. I. I feel of those who have already been indicted George A. Van Nordall and Edwin that it would be wiser to give that money and convicted have been brought to jus­ Westphall, the Crusaders for American­ to the F. B. I., because during the exist­ tice by the F. B. I. ism. ence of this committee, I do not know of Fritz Kuhn, Wilhelm Kunze, the Nazi Joe E. McWilliams, a bund member, a single bill that the committee has in­ spy ring in New York, Laura Ingalls, leader of the Christian Mobilizers. troduced that would more easily bring George Hill, and George Sylvester Viereck Stanley E. Smith, George Goadby, and about the apprehension of the Fascists, are convictions obtained by the Depart­ Robert Edmundson, bund members and Nazis, arid now of the Japanese forces ment of Justice as the results of the American Nationalists. undermining our unity and bringing F. B. I. investigations and not by the A. Allen Zoll, leader' of the American about as much discord as possible. Dies committee. Patriot. Wizard Colescott of the Ku Mr. Speaker and gentlemen, I have in Mr. DIES has claimed credit for bring­ Klux Klan. my possession thousands of letters, tele­ ing about the arrest of William Dudley Manfred Zapp of the Trans-Oceanic grams, news items, articles, and editorials Pelley. I am obliged to differ with him. News Service. from papers and people all over the The facts are that Pelley was convicted The United Electric News states: United States. Many of them who for­ . on evidence uncovered by the McCor­ While DIEs himself has attended dinners merly supported the gentleman from mack-·Dickstein committee and is serv­ along with Fritz Kuhn, the Nazi leader now Texas [Mr. DIES] now urge the discon­ ing time for stock deal frauds for which in jail, he has given only the most minor tinuation of the committee. I insert only he was convicted years ago. attention to the German-American Bund. a few of the many letters and telegrams In fact, Mr. DIES' agents maintained Edwin James Smythe, commander of that came to me during the past few for a year that they could not find Pel­ the Protestant War Veterans, referred weeks, leaving to other Members the in­ ley, notwithstanding that he had spent to Hitler as the greatest living Christian sertion of editorials and news articles: most of his time right here in Washing­ since Jesus Christ. DUKE UNIVERSITY, ton-and did not find him. Ralph Townsend, of Scribner's Com­ Durham, N . C., February 11, 1942. However, they did find him when the mentator, the America First organ; Hon. ADOLPH J. SABATH, Hoffman resolution was considered by George Christian, of the Christian Cru­ Chairmart of the Committee on Rules, the Committee on Rules on charges that House Office Building, saders; General Moseley; Gerald Smith; Washington, D. C. had been made by Representative HooK Colonel Hadley; Winfield Jones; and on the floor of the House that Pelley MY DEAR MR. SABATH: I write to ask you to E. N. Sanctuary. use your infiuence to prevent a continuance had boasted that he had written letters This failure to investigate was not due of the Dies committee, which I understand stating that the Silver Shirts, of which to his lack of money, because his com­ is asking for another large appropriation and he was a leader, could trust Mr. DIES. mittee has already received $385,000. In an extension of its life. At the hearing Mr. Pelley testified that February 1939 Mr. Warren, then chair­ It has nothing to show for its work except a certain letter bearing his signature was man of the Accounts Committee, stated: publicity for its chairman, the arousing of a forgery, and a man named Mayne, who prejudice against liberals, and an addition to Mr. Speaker, this resolution carries the the "scares" which harass our citizens need­ worked for the Dies committee at one largest single amount ($100,QOO) ever brought time, and also with Pelley, forged the lessly. Our regular agencies can adequately before me. If this investigation is not to be care for the real domestic enemies. letter. It is indeed strange that appeals terminated within 1 year, I would not have Cordially yours, for leniency and every effort was made supported it. I have always opposed these ELBERT RUSSELL, to save David G. Mayne from imprison­ perpetual investigating committees. Dean Emeritus. ment after he had pleaded guilty. In February 1941 Mr. COCHRAN, the Mr. Speaker, it should be remembered present chairman, stated: DEAN'S OFFICE, that 2 years ago, when he asked for ·con­ Mr. Speaker, with the unexpended balance, THE SCHOOL OF THEOLOGY, tinuation of bis committee, the gentle­ the resolution carries $154,000 which the gen­ THE UNIVERSITY OF THE SOUTH, man from Texas [Mr. DIES], and again tleman fFom Texas [Mr. DIES] states is suffi­ Sewanee, Tenn., February 9, 1942. last year, assured the Committee on cient to carry the investigation through. A Hon. ADOLPH J. SABATH, Rules and the House that he would not total of $385,000 has been appropriated. This Chairman, Committee on Rules, give out any statements or issue any re­ is more money than ever heretofore appro­ House of Representatives, leases without the consent of his com­ priated by the House for the use of a special Washington, D. C. committee. MY DEAR MR. SABATH: I understand that the mittee, and that he would proceed stren­ Dies committee will expire on March 31 and uously to investigate the Fascists, Nazis, Mr. Speaker, I deeply regret that there that House Resolution 420 has been intro­ and any and all organizations connected are some Members who are supporting duced by Mr. Dies to continue 'its life. with them. Mr. DIEs because of his activities against It seems to me that this committee has As it is, notwithstanding his assurance, organized labor which, notwithstanding done a great deal of harm, and I earnestly there are many organizations and indi­ the few deplorable strikes, is demonstrat­ hope that you will see your way clear to vote viduals that have not been investigated ing a real patriotic spirit during this against its continuance. and their activities brought to light as critical time. Sincerely yours, they should have been. Here I point out I hold no brief for the Communist form FLEMING JAMES. a. fpw of them: George E. Sullivan­ of government, but everyone must recog­ known as Slap-Happy Eddie-an active nize that the Soviet Government and the OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLA., February 9, 1942. Nazi supporter and attorney for former Russian people are rendering our coun­ Representative ADOLPH J. SABATH, Congressman Thorkelson. To the latter's try a real vital service in this war. ChaiTman, Committee on Rules, many vicious and lying inserts into the I feel, and I think the country agrees, House of Representatives, CONGRESSIONAL RECORD I have objected that we should desist from attack on a Washington, D. C. and pointed out that they emanate' from valiant nation doing its best -to bring DEAR SIR: This letter is to register my most and are a part of_ Nazi propaganda. about the defeat of Hitlerism. strongly seated aversion to the continuation 2284 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11

of the Dies committee, as proposed in House RELIGIOUS FORUM, SPOKANE, WASH., February 2, 1942. Resolution 420. Los Angeles, February 9, 1942. Han. ADOLPH J. SABATH, MARTIN DIEs has always been a destructive Han. A. J. SABATH, . Washington, D. C. and dagrading force in American democracy. Chairman, House Rules Committee, DEAR SIR: Respecting the Dies committee In this war period, when all sections of the Washington, D. C. request for another $100,000, may I say that American people are united behind our Gov­ DEAR SIR: We urge on you, very emphati­ I know of no greater waste of funds than this. ernment's all-out effort to win the war cally, "to let the Dies committee die." A few The Dies committee has gone oil on more against fascism and aggression, MARTIN DIEs' of the many reasons briefly stated are- wrong scents and developed more prejudice activities are doubly harmful to our just Instead of investigating and exposing the with its attacks based on inadequate infor­ cause. His committee is a friend and agent real fifth columnists it spent its time and mation than any other group, official or un­ of Hitler, n~thing more. money in smearing every type of progressive official, in my time. Now that he is pressing for a continuation and exerted and expended its energies to In view of the favorable work that the of his committee and for funds, he makes destroy the labor movement. Federal Bureau of Investigation has been the same old gesture of pretending to in­ DIEs himself is and has been very closely doing, it seems to me that at this long last vestigate the real enemies of our country, associated with professional anti-Semites and the work of this committee might well be the Nazi agents and propagandist organiza­ open Fascists. discontinued. tions. This pretense does not fool anyone. DIES with his disruptive tactics and Red Yours faithfully, If PIES were sincere, he would bring to jus­ . baiting is today one of the most powerful B. H. KIZER. tice and to light the activities of many Fas­ factors against national unity. cist organizations and individuals whom he And need we call to your attention that has been shielding for several years. before each new appropriation he always CHICAGO, February 6, 1942. Han. ADOLPH J. SABATH, The continuation of his committee will promises to go after the real Fascists, only mean more Red baiting, labor baiting, ad­ to go back to his one-purpose job of defend- Chairman of the Committee on Rules, ministration baiting, with the result that . ing and advancing everything reactionary. House of Representatives, national unity and the fight against- foreign We ·believe that there is a need to expose Washington, D. C. and native fascism will be seriously ham­ and stop the fifth columnists in our country, DEAR SIR: I note that Representative DIEs but certainly DIES has proven through all is again requesting an extension of life of his pered. committee and as an inducement he has is­ Therefore, I urge you- most strongly to these years where his heart and interests lie. So we urge upon you "to let the Dies com- sued his fantastic report of espionage. It reject House Resolution 420 in the interest . mittee die." · seems to me that the report convicts Mr. DIEs of national unity and American democracy. Respectfully yours, of criminal negligence. If he really knew as Sincerely yours, much- as he says he knew, he could have NENA BETH SHAW, RELIGIOUS FORUM, DAVID GRANT, Chairman. prevented the Pearl Harbor attack. I believe that the man is untrustworthy CHRIST CHURCH RECTORY, THE WALNUT STREET and a Il'lenace to Americanism and I hope PRF;SBYTERIAN CHURCH, that you-will vote against House Resolution Cambridge, Mass.,. February 7, 1942. 420. . Han. A. J. SABATH, Philadelphia, February 11, 1942. Chairman, Committee on Rules, ' The Ho~orable A. J. SABATH, Very truly yours, House of Representatives. Chairman, Committee on Rules, · LEON M. DESPRES. DEAR MR . SABATH: As a citizen I would like House Office Building, to register a protest against continuing the­ Washington, D. C. MY DEAR CONGRESSMAN SABATH: With a .PHILADELPHIA, PA., February 9, 1942. appropriation -for the Dies committee, which Hon. ADOLPH J. SABATH, matter I have been informed, rightly or . multitude of intelligent Americans, I believe that it will be disastrous, in this time of Chairman of House Committee on Rules, wrongly, will come before the House commit­ Washington, D. C.: tee soon. As far as I have been able to fol­ · strain when unity is essential· to our national salvation, to have the Dies committee con­ Sincerely urge no further appropriation to low the work of the committee it seems to _un-American Dies committee. · · me that they have attacked some people but ti.nued. To do so will be worth an entire army division to Hitler and Hitlerism. ERNEST N. VOTAW, have not attempted to protect us against President, Philadelphia Lawyers Guild. notoriously fascistic people, who seem to me I assure you of my appreciation of the more dangerous than many they have spent splendid service that you. have rendered and time_ investigating. are rendering to the Nation. THE MEADVILLE THEOLOGICAL SCHOOL, Very truly yours, Respectfully· yours, Chicago, February 9, 1942. GARDINER M. DAY. J. A. MACCALLUM. Hon. A. J. SABATH, , Chairman, Committee on Rules, THE UNIV.ERSITY OF WISCONSIN, _ House of Representatives. THE FELLOWSHIP OF RECONCILIATION, . Madison, February 3, 1942. MY DEAR MR. SABATH: Permit me to express New York City, February 10, 1942. Hon. ADOLPH J. SABATH, · the opinion that It would be inadvisable to Han. ADOLPH J. SABATH, House Office Building, give the so-called Dies committee further op­ Chairman, House Rules-Committee, Washington, D. (J. portunity to make the kind of sensational House of Representatives, PEAR l:?IR: I hope that the House will not and indiscriminate investigation that has Washington, D. C. accede to Congressman DIEs' request for an­ hithertc.'- marked its proceedings. The com- MY DEAR MR. SABATH: As cosecretary of the - other year's. extension of the a'ctivities of his . mittee, despite the unbalanced attitude of its Fellowship of Reconciliation, I am certain that committee. Now is the time to promote unity chairman, did a real service in arousing the the 10,000' members of the fellowship would in the interest of defense, and the type of - American people to . the very real danger of wish me to protest to you and their other _ lrive~tigation ·his committee has been doing - subversive activities, but by now our people Congressmen against another year's extension . ·is anything but a happy way to promote are arouse

that has already shown a disposition to judge Though we are now waging war against the WELLESLEY, MASS ., February 8, 1942. by labels rather than by facts, and has done Axis, Mr DIES and his committee could never Chairman A. J . SABATH, grave injustice by smearing the reputations bring themselves around to an effective inves­ House Office Building, of good men and women. The work of such tigation of Nazi spying or Fascist plotting. Washington, D. C .: a committee makes not for loyalty but for The committee spent money lavishly through Allow me to protest strongly against ap­ disloyalty to the United States. the year!S attacking democratic organizations, probation for Dies committee. Very sincerely yours, trade unions, farm groups, consumer organi­ FLORENCE CONVERSE. SIDNEY B. SNow, President. zations, and cooperatives. But it never had the time or inclination to expose the truly . BROOKLINE, MASS., February 8, 1942, THE UNITARIAN CHURCH, un-American fuehrers. A. J. SABATH, Lincoln, Nebr., February 5, 1942. Now the Dies committee says that its work House Office Building, Hon. ADOLPH J . SABATH, is unfinished and asks that it be continued. Washington, D. C.: Washington, D. C. The Dies committee will never finish what it We trust you will discontinue un-Amer1- DEAR MR. SABATH: It has been called to my never chose to begin, and we agree with the can, unpatriotic Dies committee. attention that MARTIN DIES is asking for an­ C. I . O.'s statement urging the refusal of its MR. AND MRS. JOHN F. MOORS, other $100,000 for his committee. In my request for further continuation. The work Brookline, Mass. judgment this is another case of wasting the of· dealing with foreign spies is too serious at this time for any loose handling by unsympa­ public's money. I regret to say that Mr. DIES JAMAICA PLAIN, MAss., February 7, 1942. is an unmitigated nuisance. thetic parties. Representative A. J. SABATH, I am, The Dies committee il' impeding the war House Office Building, Respectfull!' yours, effort and jeopardizing national unity, as · · Washington, D. C.: ARTHUR L. WEATHERLY. among other things, its recent attempt to use .We strongly oppose further continuation the Lash case as an attar:k on Mrs. Roosevelt Dies committee as injurious to morale of a THE NEW YORK CONFERENCE and its absurd charges against Leon Hender­ nation defending freedom. FOR INALIENABLE RIGHTS, son. PHELPS PUTNAM. New York City, February 7, 1942. At its Omaha convention, the National UNA PUTNAM. MY DEAR CONGRESSMAN: This brief letter Farmers Union passed a strong resolution FRANCES FRITCHMAN. asking you to vote "No" on the continuation condemning the undemocratic character of REV. STEPHEN FRITCHMAN. of the Dies committee is sent to emphasize the Dies committee, and we now want to ask MRS. HENRY PUTNAM. the rna.; communications already submitted your support in opposing any further appro- by informed and honest Americans making priations for the Dies committee. ' Respectfully yours, CLEVELAND, OHIO, February 9, 1942. the sar e request. Han. A. J. SABATH, I am sending it to emphasize. certain FARMERS' UNION LIVE STOCK COMMISSION, CHAS. D. EGLEY, Manager. House Office Building, points: Washington, D. C.: 1. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is Copy to Hon. ADOLPH SABATH, chairman, House Rules Committee, Washington, D. C. I earnestly protest against resolution giv­ sufficient. The Dies committee is duplica­ Ing further support to DIEs. tion. It spends uselessly much-needed D. R. SHARPE. money. PHILADELPHIA, Febru(l,ry 7, 1942. 2. The Dies committee has been and will be Representative ADOLPH J. SABATH, a menace to national unity, and to our Presi­ Chairman, House Rules Committee, Los ANGELES, CALIF., February 10, 1942. dent's policies which the country overwhelm­ Washington, D. C. Representative ADOLPH J. Si.BATH, ingly supports. DEAR REPRESENTATIVE SABATH; House ReSO• Chairman of the Rules Committee, 3. The Dies committee has consistently at­ lution 420 is coming before your Rules Com­ House of Representatives, tacked labor unions and liberal people while mittee at an early date. I am asking you Washington, D . C.: allowing Fascists and Nazis to go unrebuked. to ·appose this .resolution MARTIN DIES represents. the spirit of fascism We have faith that you who represent the · Mr DIES has done .much harm so far in his abroad in America today. Therefore urge, American people will insist upon an immedi­ condemnation of all that is American. He in the interest of national unity and an ate termination of the Dies committee. is a hindrance to our national defense pro­ eventual American victory, you make every Faithfully yours, gram. If we have known un-American ac­ effort to defeat bill 420. ROSALIE MANNING, tivities the Federal Bureau of Investigation ARNAUD. DUSSEAU. President. should handle the investigation. May we count on you to oppose this reso­ PALO ALTO, CALIF., February 10, 1942. WELLESLEY, MAsS., lution? Representative ADOLPH J . SABATH, February 1, 1942. Thank you. · House of Representatives, Bon. A. J. SABATH, . WIJ..HELMINA A. CARVER. Washington, D. C.: Chairman, Rules Committee, Respectfully protest extension of · Dies washington, D. c. . BOSTON, MASS., February 10, 1942, committee. He has promised, but never ob· . DEAR SIR: May I express my strong hope tained, information- of. Fascist spies. Pro­ that the appropriation of half a million dol­ Han. A. J. SABATH, Washington, D. C.: moted disunity and hindered defense by at­ ~ar!S for the Di~s committee may not be made. tacking labor and Red:-baiting the Presid.ent's We have better uses for our money in this Because I believe that the effect of the present policies of the Dies committee is not appointees, thus comforting our enemies. grave hour than _to spend it 'on incitement S. W. WEYMOUTH. to often unfounded fear. helpful in sustaining and building up na­ Respectfully yQurs, tional morale, I ·hope very much that the life v. D. ScUDDER. of this committee may not be continued, and NEW YORK, N.Y., February 9, 1942. I would urge that your committee do not Chairman A. J. SABATH, recommend passage of the proposed bill. Washington, D . C.: PHILADELPHIA, FREDERICK M. ELIOT. Urge Rules Committee refuse extension February 9; 1942. Dies committee today. MY DEAR CoNGRESSMAN SABATH: I want to ELSIE D : HARPER, say that I am for the defeat of· the resolu­ ._ CAMBRIDGE, MASS ., February 8, 1942. Pleasantville, N. Y. -tion-No. 420-to extend the life of the Dies Chairman A. J. SABATH, committee for another year and hope that Rules Committee, you will do. everything in your power to see House Office Building, . NEw YoRK, N. Y., February 9, 1942. that this committee, which has been run so · ' Washington, D. C.: Chairman A. J. SABATH, badly, is not continued. Opposed to further appropril:ition for Dies House Office Building, Yours tru1y, committee. Feel it endangers free speech. Washington, D. C.: ELIZABETH FRAZIER. M. L. THOMAS. Urge Rules Committee refuse extension Dies committee today. · FARMERS' UNION LIVE VALPARAISO, IND., February 9, 1942. RHODA MCCULLOCH, STOCK COMMISSION Co., .Hon. A. J. SABATH, · New York City . South St. Paul,· Minn., February 4, 1942. Chairman, Rules Committee, Han. JoHN P. O'HARA, . House Office Building: Los ANGELES, .CALIF., February 10, 1946. Member of Congress, Washington, D. C. To the best of my knowledge and belief, the Representative ADOLPH J. SABATH, HoNORABLE SIR: The Die~; committee is ·record of the Dies committee does not jus­ Chairman, Rules Committee, House of 'again asking that it be continued, and Dies' tify its continuance from the funds tliat must Representatives, Washington, D. C.: resolution to this effect is now before the -come from the taxpayers. Strongly urge that you do utmost to defeat House Rule~ Committee. . . JAMES H. MCGILL. H. R. 420. Publicity mongering detrimental LXXXVIII--144 2286 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11 to war effort. Federal Bureau of Investiga­ of this committee to investigate enemy sub­ years ago. Among his letters, there was tion and Intelligence Services adequate with­ versive activities warrants this suspension. one in which he solicited funds from the out Mr. DIES. Respectfully, German Consulate in New York. In an­ JosEPH L. HABER. FRED BRAKEBILL. other letter which he wrote to the fore­ most Nazi propagandist in Germany, Herr BEVERLY HILLS, CALIF., February 9, 1942. SUNNYVALE, CALIF., March 6, 1942. Representative ADOLPH SABATH, HousE RULEs CoMMITTEE, H. R. Hoffman, Smythe expressed his bit­ Chairman, House .Rules Committee, House Office Building, ter hatred of the Dies committee in the Washington, D. C.: Washington, D. 0.: following language: "I went before the Continuation un-American Does committee GENTLEMEN: The continuance of the Dies un-American Dies committee August 1. dangerous to American unity. End the Dies committee puts the stamp of congressional This rat," meaning DIEs, "double-crossed farce and give us a. real investigation of approval on witch-hunts among patriotic .the American people and sold out to the Coughlin and other Fascist forces. American working people. DIEs' phoney re­ enemy." It is significant that both Ed­ MADELAINE RUTHVEN. port is only being given because he wants more money. ward James Smythe and Adam Lapin, Very truly yours, newspaperman for the Communist Party PHILADELPHIA, PA., February 8, 1942. VERN SCHESSLER. in Washington, call our committee the ADOLPH J. SABATH, un-American Dies committee. Judged Chairman, House .Rules Committee, Washington, D. C.: NEw YoRK, N. Y., March 11, 1942. by the standards of the Nazis and the National unity necessary for victory. Urge Representative ADOLPH J. 8ABATH, Communists, our committee is worse than vote against Dies committee. Chairman, .Rules Committee, a failure; it is a positive menace. ANNE Fox. House Office Building: The public affairs committee of the Na­ Mr. Speaker, I could discuss in great tional Board of the Young Women's Chris­ detail the facts concerning our commit­ NEw YoRK, N. Y., February 11, 1942. tian Association urges discontinuance of Dies tee's numerous enemies, but that would Hon. ADOLPH J. SABATH, committee. In our judgment, work of this take more time than I have at my dis­ Chairman, .Rules Committee, committee can better be carried on by Fed­ posal. I can only remind the House House of .Representatives, eral Bureau of Investigation. that three of the largest and most in­ Washington, D. C.: DR, EMILY HICKMAN, Chairman. The Dies committee has been destructive fluential Communist-dominated ·organi­ of national morale with its insidious scare- • Mr. SABATH. I now yield 30 minutes zations in this country have sent briefs head-hunting accusations irresponsibly made to the gentleman from New York, for containing scurrilous attacks, replete .with no opportunity of rebuttal, and with its debate only. with misstatements of fact, to the Mem­ generally undemocratic procedures. Has ac­ Mr'. FISH. Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 bers of this House urging the discontin­ complished little or nothing toward uncover­ uance of our· committee. These organi­ ing actual agents of Nation's enemies. Em­ minutes to the gentleman from New York phatically urge opposition to any appropria­ [Mr. MAsoN], a member of the Dies com­ zations are the National Lawyers Guild, tions whatsoever toward its continuation. mittee. the National Federation for Constitu­ DAN H. KRUPP. Mr. MASON. Mr. Speaker, in consid­ tional Liberties, and the International eration of the resolution that is before Labor Defense. Adolph Berle, Assistant NEW YoRK, N. Y., February 11, 1942. the House, a resolution to continue for Secretary of State, resigned from the Hon. ADOLPH J. SABATH, another year the so-called Dies commit­ Natio~al Lawyers Guild 2 years ago, Chairman, .Rules Committee, tee, I wish to call the attentiou of the declarmg publicly that he had found that House of .Representatives, Members to the old and quite generally the guild. was completely dominated by . Washington, D. C.: accepted maxim, "A man may be known Commumsts. The International Labor Dies committee perils national unity. Urge Defense and the National Federation for strong opposition to appropriations. by the company he keeps." As a corol­ FRANCES BRANDMARK. lary to that well-known maxim I offer Constitutional Liberties are composed al­ the following: "A man may be known by most exclusively of Communists and the enemies he makes," and its converse, Communist fellow travelers. NEW YORK, N.Y., February 11, .1942. "A man may be known by the friends he At this point I want to list some of ADOLPH J. SABATH, makes." the enemies of whose hostility we are Chairman, .Rules Committee, proud; and also some of the friends of House of .Representatives, Mr. Speaker, I know of no better way Washington, D. C.: in whi(:h to appraise tbe work of the Dies whom we are even more proud. I shall Urge no appropriations to pro-Hitler Dies committee than to look into the char­ name only a few in each category but committee. acter of its friends and its enemies. ·A enough to give you a clear picture.' BETTY HERBST. colorless and ineffectual person may have Our enemies: no enemies and very few fast friends. Fritz Kuhn and the German-American NEW YORK, N. Y., February 11, 1942. Whatever else may be said of the Dies Bund, a Nazi organization. Hon: ADoLPH J. SABATH, committee, it must be recognized by The Silver Legion of America, the Chairman, .Rules Committee, all that our committee has stanch Pelley outfit. House of .Representatives, friends-countless in their number-and The Kyffhauserbund, another Nazi or­ Washington, D. C.: also desperate enemies-not so numer­ ganization. Dies committee impedes national unity. Urge opposition to further appropriations. ous, but qualitatively very significant. National Workers' League, a Nazi anti­ JUNE MmKEN. I doubt if any committee of the United Jewish group. States Congress has ever been so hyster­ Knights of the White Camellia, George CHICAGO, ILL., February 8, 1942. ically attacked as the Dies committee, Deatherage's old outfit-a Fascist group. Congressman ADoLPH SABATH, and I also doubt if ever any committee The Communist Party and its many Chairman, House .Rules Committee, has been so wholeheartedly defended as front organizations. House of .Representatives, · the Dies committee. National Lawyers Guild, controlled by Washington, D. C.: Our committee has files of the Weckruf, Communists. Strongly urge discontinuance of Dies com­ newspaper of the German-American International Labor Defense, also con­ mittee as serious obstacle to national unity and civilian morale. Hope your committee Bund, which contain scores of the most trolled by Communists. will render the Nation high service by ending v1cious articles against the Dies commit­ International Workers Order, con­ this fantastic side show. tee. Speaking for myself and, I am sure, trolled by Communists. Rev. DWIGHT J. BRADLEY, for the rest of the members of our com­ National Federation for Constitutional Director, Council for Social Action, mittee, I say that we are proud of the Liberties, another Communist outfit. Congregation Christian Churches. enmity of the German-American Bund. Our friends: I consider that richly merited enmity a The American Legion. AGNEW, CALIF., March 7, 1942. badge of honor. The Veterans of Foreign Wars. HOUSE RULES COMMITTEE, Another example is the case of one Ed­ Disabled War Veterans of America. House Office Building, Daughters of the American Revolution. Washington, D. C. ward James Smythe. Smythe has been DEAR CoMMITTEE: The morale of millions one of the crew of pro-Nazis operating Sons of the American Revolution. would be raised by the abolition of the under the guise of patriotism. Our com­ Knights of Columbus. lubor-busting Dies committee. The refusal mittee seized Smythe's complete files 2 The Catholic Churches of America. 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2287 Federation of Women's Clubs of Amer­ Mr. THOMAS of New Jersey. I also Fritz Kuhn, now in the penitentiary, ica. hope that we will not remove the smile warmly approved the Dies committee Benevolent and Protective Order of from the genial gentleman·from Massa­ and urged its continuation. If you are Elks. chusetts [Mr. ELIOT]. going to judge the committee by the · Junior Order of American Mechanics. Mr. COFFEE of Washington. That is standards and criterions set up by the The American Federation of Labor. fine. I will incorporate that remark in gentleman from Illinois, I submit that One hundred and twenty-nine million my statement because what I have to the support of the three leading Fascists Americans out of the one hundred and say refers to all, both proponents and in the United States is not any great thirty million the census figures show. -opponents. · recommendation. Mr. Speaker, these lists of friends and · Personally for the membership of the We come to the question of who sup­ enemies of the Dies committee tell the Dies committee I entertain profound af­ ports the Dies committee and who op­ whole story in a nutshell-more elo­ fection and deep respect. For each in­ poses it. We should not draw any in­ quently-than any words I can use. Truly, ·di':idual member of that committee I ·vidious distinctions as between honest, a ,man may be known by the enemies he have a very warm feeling in my heart. honorable, and patriotic citizens who dis­ makes and also by the friends he makes. My attitude does not spring from a per­ agree as to the merits or demerits of ·I believe the stand of these various or­ sonal difference. My conviction is one the Dies committee. ganizations· on the Dies committee calls founded on principle and objective con­ William Dudley Pelley, of the Silver for the continuance of the committee's clusions. Shirts, testified before the Dies commit­ labors in the interest of Americanism . I am reminded of what was said in the tee itself, as follows: ·and national defense. I also feel sure ancient Roman days: "Ave, Imperator, I subscribe so completely • • • with that 95 percent of the membership of this morituri te salutamus." "Hail, Caesar, ·the work which has been done by the Dies -House believes the record of the com­ we who are about to die salute thee." committee-and I have expressed it outside mittee warrants its continuance and-will We who are opponents of the continu­ in publications--that if its work continues so vote. ation of the Dies committee recognize and goes on the Silver Shirt Legion stops. [Here the gavel fell.] all too well that we will be overwhelm­ We have no more use-for it. • • • Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, I yield the Mr. THOMAS. Do I understand you to say ingly defeated in this fight, but we are that if the Dies committee continues with gentleman 1 additional minute. going to make the fight because we be­ its investigations the Silver Legion will im­ Mr. MASON. Mr Speaker the .com- ·lieve deeply in the fundamentals for ·mediately fold up? . mittee has been accused of making mis­ which we stand. Mr. PELLEY. I would say yes, with my bless­ -takes. Truly, the committee has made The gentleman .from Illinois said 'that ing If the Dies committee will go·ahead-­ mistakes. What Member of this . House . -we should judge the committee by the Mr: THOMAS. That answers the question. has not made mistakes? ·what commit­ friends it has made and by the character (Hearings, val. 12, p. 7527, Feb. 8, 1940.) tee of this House has not made mistakes? of its enemies. He has referred to Fritz The Silver Legion has folded up. Because it has made mistakes, they seek Kuhn, of the Gerinan-American Bund, The pattern of leniency toward the to have the committee killed. If that is as being an opponent of the Dies com­ Fascists has remained unvaried through­ the purpose, perhaps the committee that mittee. The gentleman referred to Mr. out the existence of the Dies committee. ·brought in the pension bill should be William Pelley, of the Silver Shirts, as From the testimony of William Dudley killed off, too, and many other commit­ being an opponent of the Dies commit­ Pelley, head of the Silver Shirts, before tees of this House that have made mis­ tee. He has referred to Mr. Deatherage the Dies committee on February 7, 1940: takes. But, Mr. Speaker, if you strike ·and his Knights of the White Camellia as I founded the Silver Legion in 1933 a balance, putting the mistakes on one being opponents of the Dies committee. • • • to propagandize exactly the same _:de as the liabilities of the committee These are among the leading Fascists in principles that Mr DIES and this committee and the achievements of the committee the United States. The fact of the mat­ are engaged in prosecuting right now-in on the other side as the credits of the ter is all three of these gentlemen have other words, antagonism to subversive influ­ committee, striking a balance, the bal­ warmly endorsed the Dies committee and ence in the United States (p. 7208 of the ance will be found on the right side. have urged its continuation. Mr. Death­ .hearings) . [Here the gavel fell.J erage· stated in three different riews·­ In the course of the hearings a portion Mr SABATH. Mr. fipeaker, I yield papers that he warmly supported the of Mr. Pelley's propaganda was read to 5 minutes to the gentleman from Wash­ work of the Dies committee. him, as follows: ington [Mr. COFFEE]. What did Mr. Pelley say? Mr. Pe1ley, We leaders are risking our lives to write a Mr. MARCANTONIO. Will the gentle­ ·in his publication Liberation of November · new page in American history. We do not man yield? 23, ·1939, said: propose to see America made the rag bag Mr. COFFEE. of Washington. I yield As soon as Pelley learned that DIEs had been and wastebasket for an element that Hitler to the gentleman from New York. voted his committee, he-Pelley-wanted is con trolling in Germany. Mr. MARCANTONIO. The gentleman to know at once whether his Silver Shirts faced a repetition of the Dickstein crack­ After reading this extract, Mr. Pelley from Illmois [Mr. MASON] has stated that was asked: the committee is going to be judged by down of 1934. To ascertain this, Pelley dis­ patched a trusted representative to interview What is your comment on that? the friends it keeps and the friends it DIES, and that DIES had declared, "I am not has. I point to an article in the Daily interested in Pelley. On the whole, I con­ Mr. Pelley replied: Oklahoman of February 25, 1942, where-· sider that he's done a good job"-referring · Isn't that exactly what the Dies committee in it is reported that the Ku Klux Klan to the La Follette expose. is doing? (p. 7236). endorses the Dies committee. Mr. COFFEE of washington. I am Fritz Kuhn, leader of the German­ This approval of the Dies committee American Bund, in an interview in the was stated by a man who under oath going to get to that. New York World-Telegram, December 8, Mr. Speaker, this i.<; not the first time testified freely _that he approved "the the Dies committee has come before this 1939, paid his respects to the Dies com­ work of Hitler" and "his manner of con­ honorable assemblage for ratification mittee and said: trolling Germany." and continuation. The House is in a I am in favor of it-the Dies committee­ Many patriotic citizens support the more or less jovial humor today and I to be appointed. again, and I wish them to Dies committee, as hab been brought out. ·hope we will continue to maintain our get more money. On the other hand, equally.patriotic citi­ good humor. I hope that we will not The following is from William Pelley, zens bitterly condemn the Dies commit­ chase the smile off the face of the genial head of the Silver Shirts: tee. ann brilliant gentleman from Texas, the I founded the Silver Legion in 1933 to [Here the gavel fell.] chairman of this committee, with whom propagandize exactly the same principles that Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 I exchanged the most pleasant colloquy Mr. DIEs and his committee are engaged in additional minute to the gentleman from the other day. prosecuting right now; in other words, an­ Washington. Mr THOMAS of New Jersey. Will the tagonism to subversive influences in ·the Mr. COFFEE of Washington. Mr. gentleman yield? United States. Speaker, I regret that although we were Mr. COFFEE of washington. I yield That "is on page 7208 of the Dies hear­ promised by the Rules Committee 3 hours to the gentleman from New Jersey, ings, of discussion, it has now been cut down to 2288 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11 1 hour; and the time is not sufficient to committee. I want no committee to be belligerent, is Soviet nussia? Great God, afford us an opportunity to debate th~ permitted to function whose activities gentlemen, we are dealing with dynamite merits of the resolution so palpably menace the good relationship today. This is no time for maudlin I have here a few editorials from lead­ between the United States and the Soviet sentiment and paying homage to old ing newspapers of the United States op­ Union. shibboleths. This is reality-grim, stark, posed to the Dies committee. One of The other day Radio Berlin broad­ blazing reality. We are faced by condi­ them is PM, a New York daily newspaper; cast a jibe at the United States, as tions, not theories. It is unfortunate one is from the New Republic; another is it is wont to do daily, but this time it that those in charge of our foreign rela­ from the Nation; another is Time maga­ directed its special attention to the gen­ tions, and those Army and Navy officers zine; another is Newsweek; another iP the tleman from Texas. The German an­ who have made joint war plans with Springfield Republican; another j.c:; from nouncer broadcast in English that Herr Russian high army and navy officers, were the In Fact. Another is from the Galves­ Dms must have been embarrassed if not not sought out and their opinion solicited ton News; another is by Ernest K. Lind­ humiliated, because Gen. Douglas Mac­ in connection with this situation. ley, a leading nationally known columnist. Arthur had sent a cablegram of friendly Here are some pertinent editorial ex­ I have here a list of 500 of the leading greeting to Joseph Stalin, Dictator of pressions which should be of interest to intellectuals, writers, and thinkers in the Russia, complimenting the Russian Army the House in connection with the con­ United States, petitioning this Congress for having achieved the greatest military tinuation of the Dies committee. to disuand the Dies committee. upset and victory and all-round army S t: . Louis Post Dispatch: Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent accomplishment in recorded history. THAT MAN DIES AGAIN. that I may revise and extend my remarks Gen. Douglas MacArthur freely .employed If MARTIN DIES, the voter-repudiated Texas and refer briefly to some of these edi­ superlatives in lauding the intrepidity politician, has his way about it, he is going torials, by quoting herein excerpts there­ and tenacity of the Russian Army in their to break the record of the nine-lived cat. from. engagements with the Nazi invaders. He wants another $100,000 to finance another The SPEAKER. Is there objection to The German broadcaster thus called at­ year of peeking under the bed, and the House the rP-quest of the gentleman from Wash­ tention to the· Dies committee's frequent Rules Committee has sent the request to ington? sneers at the Soviet Union and the many the floor . ·Apparently In an effort to give it a touch of There was no objection. remarks made by the· chairman of that wartime justification, DIES has disclosed that Mr. FISH. Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 ad­ committee on public platforms through­ the President and the State Department pre­ ditional minute to the gentleman from out the country reflecting upon the vented him from holding public hearings last Washington, if he so desires. U. S. S. R. at a time so critical to the year regarding Jap subversive activities. In Mr. COFFEE of Washington. I thank destiny of the United States. We can't other words, we suppose that, If it hadn't the gentleman very much. afford to offend the Soviet Union, much been for President Roosevelt, Secretary Hull I have not time now to read any excerpts as we may disagree with its philosophy and also the Attorney General, MARTIN DIES from these editorials other than to re­ of government. This is no time for any would have prevented Pearl Harbor. That is a lot of claptrap. At that time, we mind you that there are plenty of maga­ official committee of Congress to be toss­ were striving to maintain peaceful relations zines and newspapers in this .country ing brickbats at our Allies. We should, with Tokyo, and Jap-baiting would have been that take the view that the Dies commit­ on the other hand, be following the in­ no help. Why did not DIES hold secret hear~ tee, having already expended $385,000, spiring example of that military genius ings, or, better still. whisper a word or two and not having exposed clearly as a fas­ in the far Philippines who has demon­ into Edgar Hoover's ear, or to the Army and cist Mr. George Sylvester Viereck, not strated his right t.o respect and admira­ Navy intelligence staffs? having found out about Laura Ingalls, not tion-the incomparable Doug Mac­ DIEs has been operating for a long time having pitilessly exposed the Christian Arthur, the exploits of whose leadership now by virtue of a statute which authorizes Congress to conduct investigations with a Front in New York, not having found out and whose army have thrilled all patriotic view to the enactment of legislation. The about the numerous German spies who Americans to the very core of their being. country has yet to hear a meritorious sug­ have been apprehended by the F. B . I. We have reason to know that Russian gestion of that nature from his committee. and are now being prosecuted, has already officials are offended by the L:discrimi­ As a matter of fact, he has turned it into a forfeited its right to continuation. I shall nate reflections upon the Soviet Govern­ one-man show which has stimulated the sort attach some pertinent editorial expres­ ment made by the irrepressible gentle­ of prejudices which, unfortunately, have a sions. It seems to me that we now have man from Texas, the chairman of the cash value on some lecture platforms. He has gone Mrs. Dilling and her redbacked agencies within the Federal Government committee under discussion today. Re­ book one better. empowered to carry on the work of ex­ cently, the gentleman offered two amend­ The United States needs to be vigilant. If posing un-American activities, agencies ments to a bill affecting citizenship some of us did not fully realize that before which will do it in a legal and ethical way, rights in the House of Representatives. Pearl Harbor. we certainly do now. But what carrying out the principles of the Ameri­ These amendments were overwhelmingly can DIES contribute to national vigilance? can Bar Association as set forth in its defeated. The erudite chairman of the His show has gone on long enough. It bas legal ethics code, according to the ac­ House Judiciary Committee, the gentle­ degenerated into something little better than cused the right to a hearing and per­ man from' Texas [HATTON SUMMERS], in a personal racket. It's time to call a halt. For $100,000, we can buy three medium mitting him to be present and to be opposing his colleague's amendments, ~nb. · represented by counsel. gravely deplored any action which the Mr. Speaker, the-Federal secret service, House might take which might jeopar- · The Herald, of Spartanburg, S. C.: the Army and Navy Intelligence, the dize the cordial relations between the DIES WANT{!> MORE MONEY F. B. I., the Department of Justice, are United States and Russia. Representative DIES, chairman of the con­ equipped to perform completely and effi­ Whether we like it or not, Russia is the gressional committee investigating un-Amer­ ciently the exposure of subversive activi­ one country in the world today which is ican activities, has asked for an appropria­ ties in a way which will bring to justice making a decisive military stand and ac­ tion of $100,000 to enable a thorough investi­ those culprits guilty of undermining our complishing effective results against the gation of the activities of the Ku Klux Klan form of government. They are perform­ in every State. The request was made after Nazi hordes. We need her fighting with Mr. DIEs had a conference with the imperial ing assiduously every day, without fan­ us side by side. We should render her wizard of the Klan. The meeting was behind fare, without newspaper notoriety, but honor for her sacrifices. The State De­ closed doors, and Mr. DIES said-the Ku Klux with results which are very apparent to partment should have intervened in this Klan potentate had promised cooperation the casual researcher. matter of continuing the Dies committee, with the committee. I am no defender of communism, nor and should have pointed out to the Mem­ Why the imperial wizard should ask this of the Communist Party. I am not ap~ bers how the very security and future . of investigation is not known. Why the Gov. pearing in the role of critic of the Dies our country is threatened by an unfavor­ ernment should appropriate $100,000 to pro­ long the life of the Dies committee that tt committee motivated by any sympathy able reaction at the hands of the Soviet may make the investigation is not to be by, or affili&tion with the Communist Union. Is it not possible for this House understood. Party. Vke Wendell Willkie and the St. to recall that we are engaged in a war Mr. DIES likes the spotlight. He has spent Louis Globe-Democrat, I concede it to be against Japan, against Italy, and against much public money to air his personal views my high patriotic duty to resist legisla­ Germany, and that our most potent ally, on the dangers to the Nation. He may have tion insuring the continuation of this our most tireless and yet sensitive co- done some good. We cannot say that he has 1~42 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2289 not. But if the Congress desires to get some­ Time magazine: instance, that he attempted to discredit Leon Henderson, Price Control Administrator, by where with appropriations for investigating DIES IRATE un-American activities, we believe the Amer­ associating him with the Technocracy move­ ican people would like to see the money Should the Dies committee be continued? ment which had quite a vogue during the turned over to the Federal Bureau of Inves­ That annual question was up again before early days of the depression. Certainly Mr. tigation. Let Hoover do the trick, and forget the House. The answer would be "yes"; DIEs was only showing his ignorance in mak­ Representative DIEs. · MARTIN DIES would perhaps get another ing this charge. Even though Mr. Henderson swatch of money, perhaps another $100,000.1 had been as close to the movement as DIEs Kenneth G. Crawford, in the news­ In the meantime he bad some bad moments. asserted, which he was not, it would be no paper PM, New York City: Many a House committee witness testified reflection upon him. Every thinking man on the un-Americanism of DIES' study of was interested in any proposal to better eco­ BREAK IT UP, BOYS un-Americanism. One well-noted point: In nomic conditions and to alleviate the con­ All the people of the United States of Axis propaganda broadcasts, according to sequences of the depression which was so America-and particularly those who will be Federal Communications Commission listen­ seriously affecting our body politic. Tech­ eligible to vote in the forthcoming congres­ ers, MARTIN DIEs was one of the most-praised nocracy was one of the ideas suggested as a sional elections--should read two ·recent is­ of all Americans way to bring back prosperity. It received the sues of the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD (March 4 Red-faced, MARTIN DIES demanded an ex­ attention of a great many persons sincerely and March 6) . planation. Federal Communication Commis­ interested in improving conditions. They These two issues record what happened to sion's Chairman Fly, a favorite Dies target, studied it for what it might be worth. It was ToM ELIOT, a new Member from Massachu­ replied: found lacking and we have heard little of setts, when he undertook to hold Chairman "Representative DIES received as many fa­ it for some years. MARTIN DIES, of the House Committee on vorable references in Axis propaganda to this When DIEs attacked Henderson, who is a Un-American Activities, responsible for some country as any living American public figure. sincere and nard-working patriot, for having misrepresentations of fact about the commit­ His opinions were quoted by the Axis without investigated technocracy, he was once again tee's work and to expose the committee's criticism at any time. The remarkable thing attempting to besmirch a liberal merely be­ recent Yellow Paper as the fraud it is. is that Congressman DIES should be presented cau.se he is a liberal and for no other purpose. On the earlier occasion the House cheered to Americans by Nazi and Fascist propagan­ And he was so attacking Henderson because a speech in which DIES was so corny that dists as ali authority whose opinions should he, DIEs, is a Fascist and is usi'ng the methods any group of bright sixth-grade boys and be heeded." of that kind of people in an effort to dis­ girls would have laughed at him. On the Scarcely bad this deft needle slipped in credit liberalism in general. second occasion the House deliberately when up rose Massachusetts' young THOMAS If we were in the least jealous of our gagged ELIOT by adjourning in the midst of H. ELIOT to deliver the sharpest attack on democracy and of our American way ot life, an address in which he proposed to show up DIES the House ever heard. . we would rise up in arms against DIES and the Yellow Paper hoax. · "[The committee has] all too often acted his witch hunts ana we would make our Most Americans will be baffled by the two irresponsibly. • • • Rash and reckless in opp.osition to him so vocal that the House of . incidents as set forth in the CONGRESSIONAL a time of national danger. The Representatives of our Congress would refuse RECORD . Why was ELIOT put on the spot by Dies committee's definition of 'subversive' is to appropriate one more cent to ·enable him the House. made the butt of slurs and repri­ so fantastic as to defy belief. A vote against to continue his un-American activities. For mands. when DIES was the Member whose the Dies committee is a vote for responsible that is just exactly what they are so far as statements wouldn't stand examination? government." the general average is concerned. Why was ELIOT gagged and not DIES? Why As evidence, young ToM ELIOT cited chapter MARTIN DIES has long ago forfeited any is our Congress no longer a forum in which and verse from a new Dies dossier .of "sub­ right that he might have had to conduct free speech is upheld? What goes on here versive" Government employees. On .the list, such investigations as the committee headed anyway? · · said ELIOT, were: by him has been proposing tq conduct these All these questions can best be answered, An employee who endorsed the National many years. What with his attempted be­ perhaps, by another incident that the CoN­ Youth Administration (also endorsed by War­ 'Smirching of Governor, now Supreme Court GRESSIONAL RECORD does not mention. Rep­ den Lewis E Lawes and a member of the Justice, Murphy, Leon Henderson, and many resentative JoHN RANKIN's secretary acci­ Dies comzp.ittee) . other sincere patriots whose only offense was dentally sent to the Public Printer a letter One Mary Johnson-because a different to attempt to make their country a better addressed to the public schools of Mississippi, place in v:hich for all of us to live, he has in which RANKIN offered to provide every Mary Johnson drew a picture for a Com­ munist paper in 1936. definitely ranged himself with the Fascist school with an autographed photograph of elements of the country who in their hearts himself suitable for framing. The letter was One George Saunders; a Roman Catholic from San Francisco, listed by DIES as a hate democracy and are forever conniving to deleted from the RECORD to save RANKIN em­ undermine and destroy it. · barrassment. Communist of Pittsburgh. An employee who once signed a petition Not one cent for more witch hunting should DIEs and· RANKIN are ·both old-timers in against the Dies committee. be the answer to DIES. Not one cent to fur­ the House. They· are both pretty average ther the interests of the Fascists by drawing :fellows with rather vulnerable records. Gazette, of York, Pa.: red herrings across the trail and attempting Neither one, in all probability, could get to discredit good Americans who really believe another job as good as his present one if NOT ANOTHER CENT FOR DIES MARTIN DIEs will soon be asking the House in the democratic way and are willing to do beaten for re-election. Lots of other Mem­ 'what they can to make this a government bers of the House are in .the same boat. So of Representatives for more money with which to continue investigating un-American of the people, by the people, and for the they stick together, protect each other, pro­ people, in fact as well as in theory. After mote each other. When a newcomer like activities. That is the purpose for which his committee was created and for which money all, we. are fighting fascism abroad. It is ELIOT undertakes to show them up, they gag ridiculous that we should permit -MARTIN . him. bas been appropriated by the House. What has actually happened, however, 'is very dif­ DIES, one of our outstanding American Fas­ Free speech is nice, but it is not to be cists, to conduct investigations which in­ tolerated if its going to hurt one of the _boys, ferent. Mr. DIEs has followed the fascist line from evitably result in attempts to cast discredit particularly one of the boys who, like DIES, upon liberalism by insinuation that it is com­ has for several years been making good in the very moment his investigations started. It has beome so typical that it is surprising munistic, which in truth it most decidedly the newspaper headlines. Sure his stuff is is not. a little phony. So what? He's shown up that he has been allowed- to get away with some Communists, hasn't he? What if a it for so long. The technique is to make Herald, of Cheyenne, Wyo.: conversation about running down Nazi and few innocent people-Europe on a trip. spendi7;1g $100,000 than by renewing the ap­ to be credited to the Dies committee's per­ More to the point would be an investiga­ sistent investigations indicates that the com­ propriation asked in the House of Represent­ tion of DIES himself. Let him tell why he mittee does not enjoy the confidence of Con­ atives for continuance of the Dies commit­ appeared on the same public platform with gress. If this inference is justified, why tee. Nazi Fritz Kuhn, and was on friendly terms should the committee get further authority This committee occasionally in the past has with American Fascists; why he failed to ex­ to run an inquisition? Congressional in­ served a usefUl purpose. But its methods pose Deatherage and Viereck; or why he per­ vestigations are held for the purpose of ob-· have not always been those to inspire con­ sistently attacked administration and labor taining information that would aid the legis­ fidence. Its investigators, on the basis of leaders. lators in framing new statutes. loose generalization, have blackened the rep­ Now that war :nas come the job of run­ utation of many who were given little The following is an editorial from the ning down subversive activities and exposing chance to defend themselves; in recent weeks Hartford vernment can take land, prop­ Its record is one in which the Congress The purpose of H. R. 5580 is to pro­ erty, and tires, they can take private cart have no pride, and its procedure at hibit subversive individuals from repre­ planes. The only planes that should be times has been violative of what we senting employees in labor unions. If the allowed to fly, except in exceptional cir­ Americans like to call fair play. No Attorney General finds, after due notice cumstances, are military and air-line longer can I condone its misdeeds, and, to such individual and affording him an planes. having no hope that it will reform, I opportunity for a hearing, that he is a The time has come when all Americans hope its continuance .Will not be author­ subversive individual, and by order so must work, fight, and sacrifice if we are ized. Money appropriated for expendi­ declares, then for all purposes of this act going to win this war. We must win in tures by that committee is worse than such individual shall thereafter cease to order to preserve our liberties and pro­ wasted. I shall vote "nay." have and cease to be entitled to such tect our high standard of living. Amer­ Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, I yield status. In case any organization, agency, ica must wake up. America has no place 5 minutes to the gentleman from New committee, or plan has a subversive indi­ for an individual who places any other York [Mr. MARCANTONIO]. vidual as an officer, it ceases to have any flag, constitution, way of life, or any other Mr. FISH. Mr. Speaker, I yield the ' rights under the National Labor Rela­ ideals of government above our own. We gentleman 2 additional minutes. tions Act until it shows to the satisfac­ must gird ourselves to resist all attacks on The SPEAKER. The ge;ntleman from tion of the Attorney General that no offi­ the American way of life. New York is recognized for 7 minutes. cer is a subversive individual. Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, I yield Mr. MAF..CANTONIO. Mr. Speaker, We have had very little sabotage in our 1 minute to the gentleman from North · there are several points at issue which defense industries up to this time. This Carolina [Mr. FOLGER]. have been raised since the discussion is due, in part, to the commendable work Mr. FOLGER. Mr. Speaker, I am with regard to the continuation of this of the F. B. I., the Dies committee, and voting against the continuation of this committee commenced before the Rules other agencies. Perhaps the time is not committee, and I might as well say to you Committee. One of then. is: Who was ripe for large-scale sabotage by the AXis. that in part it is personal. I have come responsible for Pearl Harbor? Of course We know that there are numerous Ger­ near dying on the floor of this House none of us in the opposition took Mr. man, Japanese, and Italian agents in since I have been here and I owe to the DIEs' contention very seriously, except this country under orders from abroad. gentleman from Texas, Judge SuMNERS, that we felt it was our duty to challenge Their orders thus far have been to lie the fact that I am alive now, I think. his charge of dereliction against the ad­ low, avoid detection, and be prepared to I reai'ize that this committee has done ministration and give the true facts to strike at the right moment to do tl_le most a wonderful work in some respects. I the Nation, particularly as the gentlema.n defense damage and create the greatest know that every man on the committee from Texas [Mr. Dms] had asserted that amount of confusion. We cannot afford is of the highest patriotism, and I have he had information which, if he had been to relax and congratulate ourselves that learned to know and love and highly re­ permitted to reveal it, would have averted we have taken adequate precautions gard them, but I am of opinion that the the tragedy at Pearl Harbor. against them. We need to be constantly work of the committee, which they have The record will demonstrate that no and increasingly on guard. You may developed on the floor of the House, is one prevented Mr. DI.ES from revealing have some of them in your own com­ dangerous, when we take into account his information and that despite the munity. They will probably try to get a that while Russia was one of our main fact that the Attorney General had re-· foothold in our civilian defense program. Allies and source of help and protection, quested the information which the gen­ None but Americans should be placed attack was made on them, to no use, tleman from Texas · said he had, the on guard. The time has arrived to place highly dangerous, by the committee gentlem.an from Texas has never fur­ a double guard, if necessary, around our chairman while we were looking to Rus­ nished that information. We may argue defense plants, strategic materials, and sia for help. These mistakes might occur this matter as much as we want; but food storage plants. Almost every day again. there is one proposition that stands out, you can notice an article in the news­ The SPEAKER. The time of the gen­ and that is that the Attorney General, papers about an explosion or a fire in one tleman from North Carolina has expired. on August 13, asked for the specific of our defense plants. Several examples Mr. SABATH . . Mr. Speaker, I yield information which the gentleman from are Normandie, ordnance blast at Bur­ the gentleman 1 minute more. Texas said he had. The fact is that lington, Iowa, wool fire in Boston, mag­ Mr. FOLGER. Mr. Speaker, I do .not never has the gentleman from Texas nesium fire in Nevada. feel that there is a sufficient and proper turned over the information which the Newspaper pictures have shown that understanding between the activities of gentleman from Texas described to be some of our storage places are not well this committee and the Government it­ of such character that if he had been guarded. We need a department with self. I do feel that the most efiicient permitted to reveal it, would have averted authority to hire some two-fisted vet­ way of putting down and eliminating the tragedy at Pearl Harbor. It is true erans or hunters who can shoot. This sabotage and things which are detrimen­ that recommendations were made would be a good job for the veterans of tal to us is through the F. B. I. and the against public hearings on the matter, the first World War to handle. It is bet­ Department of Justice and the Military but certainly with information of that ter to have too many guards than too and Naval Intelligence, and that all these kind in the possession of the chairman few. Do not forget it takes time to build should be controlled under one head. I of this much publicized committee, it these defense plants; let us protect them. am afraid we will gum up the situation was his duty, it seems to me and to every To accomplish this purpose I have intro­ if we keep this up. · reasonable person in this country, if that duced a bill to provide more guards for · [Here the gavel fell.] information was of such serious char­ our defense industries. Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, I yield acter, to at least whisper it into the ears To do a real job against sabotage we 1 minute to the gentleman from Penn­ of the Attorney General or to whisper it must increase our restrictions on private sylvania [Mr. EBERHARTER]. into the ears of Mr. J. Edgar Hoover, airplanes. I know you will say that their Mr. EBERHARTER. Mr. Speaker, I head of the F. B. I. That was never licenses have been revoked and the own­ am convinced beyond all doubt that the done. The correspondence is a matter ers are being fingerprinted. They are net result of the labors of the Committee of record. also double checked at the airports. to Investigate un-American Activities is I repeat, the record shows that despite However, there is nothing to prevent any harmful to the Nation's war effort. It the fact that the Attorney General on pilot from taking off from a cow pasture has excited suspicion unduly, created dis­ August 13 asked for that information, or selling his plane to a subversive indi­ trust and disunity, and has embarrassed the gentleman from Texas never turned vidual. If subversive individuals get pos- and hampered the orderly functioning o! over that information to him, who is 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2295 charged with the apprehension and pros­ our country, as proven. by world events. I submit that we need it more during a ecution of spies and fifth columnists. I call as my chief witness on that point time of war than we do at any other Now, with regard to the character of none other than a distinguished mem­ time, because the work of subversive in­ the information: Last Saturday after­ ber of that committee, the gentleman terests is more active and far more noon before- this House I had the long­ f;rom California-£Mr. VooRHIS], who on harmful during wartime.· sought opportunity to reveal to the mem­ page A725 of the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD I think the Dies committee has done bership of the House the character of the s~d: · one of the finest jobs that has ever been information. I showed how, page for Some of the most important pro-Nazi and done by any committee since I have been page, comma for comma, period for pe­ pro-Fascist people in America are highly in Congress. They assuredly have gone riJod, most of this material was lifted placed and wealthy and powerful people out and brought to the public attention bodily, word for word, from a news letter whose activities are seldom if ever in the the subversive interests in this country published in Los Angeles, Calif., by New open. A thi~d reason is that the committee that were tying to fifth columns, and Research Service, sold for 10 cents a copY, has on its staff no expert in this field, no one who knows 'it from the inside. . that whole subversive gang. Particu­ as far back a$ July 16. larly at this time do we need this com­ In t.hat discussion I granted the com­ The whole set-up, the whole back­ mittee when this country is filled with mittee the benefit of every doubt. I even ground, the whole work, the whole activ­ a bunch of weak-kneed officials who have said assuming that the publisher of this ity of this committee guarantees its fail­ not the intestinal fortitude to do thei'r News Letter went to the committee and ure to do the real job against the enemies duty, who sit in their o-ffices and split said, "Gentlemet:J., here . is material that of the Nation in the future. The same hairs over the so-called rights of minori­ you may use. You may copy it. I do not reasons account for its failure in the past. ties. This is wartime, and we . need a. want any credit." assuming that· that is Mr. VOORHIS of California. Mr. committee like the Dies committee to all true, bear in mind, however, that the Speaker, will the' gentleman Yield? · turn on the light of publicity where it issue involved is not one of violation of Mr. MARCANTONIO. I refuse to is so badly needed. copyr~ ght nor one of authprization. yield. I have quoted the gentleman ac­ Mr. DIES, I commend you, I congratu­ When this yellow book was published by curately, and I refuse to yield at -this late you and your committee of real, this committee, what was it supposed to time. courageous, red-blooded Americans for be? It was supposed to represent the This committee has been acclimated to the splendid work you have done; I am work, the investigation, the translation, and its activities have been based on surprised to know that any man in this of whom? Of the Dies committee. In­ what? On the anti-.Comintern bogey, the House would ever come out and take up stead, what does it turn out to be? In brain child of the Rome-Tokyo-Berlin the other side of this question. I may page after page it turns out to be the axis. Accordingly, · the committee did , be prejudiced, but I cannot- see anything work. the translation. the investigation of nothing else but direct its energy toward but the American side on your side of the person who issued this News Letter building up bias, prejudice, and hatred this question. and who sold it to the public for 10 cents against the Soviet Union. What .a per- . Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance a copy on ·July 16, 1941 feet job for Adolf Hitler. The results of my time. You can argue as much as you want have been what? The results have been The SPEAKER. The gentleman on this proposition, but you cannot get that its activities have been diverted from yields back one-half minute. away from that fact that these sections the real enemies of our country. Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 in the report are copied word for word. This committee therefore is untrained . minutes to the gentleman from Cali_. . In one place, for instance, where the and unfit to do the job that has to be -fornia lMr. VOORHIS]. newsletter says, "Illustration on this done today; namely, to investigate Jap­ Mr. VOORms of California. Mr. page," and it has an illustration, the anese, Fascist, and Nazi activities within Speaker, there can be no doubt that the Dies committee, in making the copy, left the United States. , Let me quote to you amount of material on various kinds of out the illustration but forgot to omit from a very left-wing magazine, Collier's. antidemocratic activities which this com­ the words "Illustration on this page." magazine, of March 7, 1942. an article mittee has assembled is very great, in­ The seriousness of this lifting is not one entitled "I Don't Like To· Travel" by deed. Neither, in my judgment, can . of . violation of copyright or of lifting Quentin Reynolds, a man whom we all there be any doubt but that those people without authorization. _The deplorable . respect, a man who ·has seen this war who are in positions of leadership in all and serious character of this word-for­ and has had close touch with it, who types of antidemocratic organizations are word copying is that the committee mis­ knows that this war is an anti-Fascist opposed to the committee. represented to the House and to the war. Here is what he said. What I want to use these 2 minutes ·country as its work, words, translation, [Here the gavel fell.] for is to. speak about the future of the and investigation the words, work, trans­ Mr. FISH. Mr. Speaker, I yield the committee, whose continuation I assume. lation, and investigation of someone else gentleman one-half minute. In my judgment, the future of the com­ contained in a news letter published July The SPEAKER. The gentleman may mittee should be devoted primarily and 16, 1941, and sold for 10 cents a copy. proceed for one-half minute. with every bit of major emphasis at its This is the issue raised by my charges, Mr. MARCANTONIO. He said: command to the doing of a job. of ex­ and I trust Mr. DIEs will stick to this It made one wonder, it made one wonder · posing and combating the work of peo­ issue of misrepresentation. if some of the Washington committees which ple who attempt to create confusion in If you will turn to pages 1733, 1734, in recent years have spent so much time and our country and to build up ·sympathy and 1735 of the report, you will find money investigating Soviet propaganda in with the Nazi philosophy of government. another translation lifted from another America, would not have done better to look into the sources of the anti-Soviet propa­ Thus they seek to weaken America's war source; that is, the China Weekly Re­ ganda in America. effort. I believe the whole record of the view, September 2, 1939. This was done committee will stand or fall on the basis again without giving credit to the source. I submit that on the record and on of how well it does that job. For cur No proof of authorization in this case. the facts this committee has failed to country is at war and our work must be I challenge the gentleman from Texas investigate the real enemy, and in so fail­ focused upon its enemies. to orate this one a way. ing it· has tended to cause. disunity, divi­ The quotation the gentleman from . I do not want to dwell on these things sion, and disruption among those who New York read is a correct quotation too long; because you cannot do much are . today joined in a collective effort to from what I said in my speech of Feb­ in 7 minutes. But why do these things defeat fascism all over the world. ruary 25 about the committee's work and happen in connection with investigations [Here the gavel fell.] the dangers of undercover Nazi and of Japanese, Nazis, and Fascists? Be­ Mr. FISH. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 Fascist influences, but if he had gone cause this committee is not attuned, it minutes to the gentleman from Cali­ forward he would have found that the is not prepared, it is not geared, it is not fornia [Mr. LELAND M. FORD]. reason I made the point I did was that disposed, it is not capable in view of its Mr. LELAND M. FORD. Mr. Speaker, I was saying that this committee should record, to investigate these people who I have heard it said that we do not need supply itself with staff members primar­ have been and are the real enemies of the Dies committee during a time of war. ily equipped to do the sort of job I have 2296 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11 just outlined. I believe it should; I hope We must not knowingly insult any nation with inefficiency and laxity in adminis­ it will. which is now engaged in this war as an ally trating the law. I believe also-and I would not be true of our own. October 1941: Criticized the Presi­ to my own convictions in this matter if Since the creation of the Dies commit­ dent's statement about Soviet Constitu­ I did not say this, and I have said it tee several years ago, approximately tion at a time when the President was many times in the committee itself-that half a million dollars has been expended seeking better relations with Russia. the committee should function more as a without one piece of concrete, construc­ November 1941: Denounced Leon Hen­ committee. tive legislation submitted to Congress. derson as a Communist sympathizer. What I mean by functioning as a com­ Little was heard from the Dies com­ January 1942: Admitted he had not mittee is this: I believe regular meetings mittee about Japanese dangers until after studied conference report on the price­ ought to be held at which time decisions Pearl Harbor, and now the gentleman control bill, but said he would vote about the committee's work and its pub­ from Texas· [Mr DIES] saY.s: · against it if the President put Henderson lic statements ought to be made. Sec­ If the Department of State had permitted in charge. DIES periodically condemned ond, I believe statements by the commit­ us to investigate the Japs, Pearl Harbor organizations supporting F. D. R. foreign tee or its members bearing upon its work would have been averted. policy as Communist frorits, among them should only be made after a majority were China Aid Counsel and the Refugee of the committee has approved. And I This statement hit the Hearst head­ Scholarship and Peace Committee. The believe information in the committee's lines all over the country-but on October late Sara Delano Roosevelt, mother of possession should be--as I am informed 24, 1941-just a few weeks before Pearl F. D. R., served on both. Labor is anoth­ it has been-always available-all of it­ Harbor. the gentleman from Texas, MAR- . er t:;~.rget of the Dies committee in con­ to law-enforcing or intelligence agents of TIN DIEs, speaking to the New Orleans stant unwarranted statements when the the Government, but not to anyone else Association of Commerce, said that- records :.,how that shipbuilding, muni­ except after committee action has been the Japanese policy was just a bluff-and not tions, tanks, and guns are being produced taken to release it. too gooct a bluff at that. A lot of Americans ahead of schedule, due to the superhu­ That the committee has not acted more like myself would like to see them bring their man efforts of labor in this critical hour. as a committee is due in part to the fact coal burners out for a good liclting, but they I do not question the patriotism of the that it has never had regular meetings won't. gentleman .from TexaJ, MARTIN DIES, and and partly to the fact that members have The gentleman from Texas [Mr. DIES] if we were stilLat peace I would readily been lax about attending meetings when has been constantly offending our ally, vote to continue the committee, but we the chairman has called them. Soviet Russia, instead of ferreting out must gather information on subversive America is at war. The duty of this Axis agents and Fascist leaders in Amer­ and un-American activities that tend to committee is to expose the work of agents ica. The Federal Communications Com­ undermine our democracy in a quiet of the nations against which we are mission Chairman in ·a letter said, and I manner, without advanced newspaper :"";hting and of those wno -give propa­ quote: · headlines, and this can best be accom­ ganda aid to such agents. Sometimes it plished through the F. B. I.; one of the will be the committee's duty to work very That the chairman of the Dies committee finest and most fearless investigating has been frequently and favorably quoted on quietly indeed, simply passing on infor­ Axis propaganda broadcasts beamed to this agencies in the world. Within the past mation to those who can make arrests Hemisphere. week the F. B. I. in their quiet, efficient, · and catch spies and do work of that kind and unheralded manner arrested over which this committee cannot do. ·Some­ The Dies committee, in its reckless re­ 1,976 enemy aliens throughout the coun­ times it will be the duty of the committee lease of statements to the press which try and recovered vital maps,. ammuni­ to speak out and give information to the . always hits Hearst's and other newspaper tions, and radio sets in their possession. people directly. headlines, called un-American or Com­ Thousands of F. B. I. agents are quietly [Here the gavel fell.J munist-front organizations-one which working in the shipyards, in industry, in Mr. WEISS. Mr. Speaker, I supported contained such outstanding Americans agriculture, and mingling with the popu­ the Dies committee, House Resolution 90, as: Senator Barbour of New Tersey; the lation in civilian life guarding against on February 11, 1941. This was a resolu­ able and distinguished Senator Carter sabotage and espionage activities. I tion for the continuation of the Special Glass of Virginia; Alfred E. Smith, for­ trust the F. B. I. Committee to Investigate Un-American mer Governor of New York; Rev. M. E. Let me conclude: Activities. This was during peacetime. Sheehy of Catholic University; Attorney Just as important as the gallantry of We are now at war.in a conflict which has Gene1 al Biddle; Senator Bennett Clark our Army in the front trenches and our enveloped the four corners of the uni­ of Missouri; Thomas E. Dewey, former Navy in defense of our island outposts is verse. This is a titantic struggle between district attorney of New York; Josephus the sober, yet grim, determination· on our two different worlds, and one must fall. Daniel5, former Ambassador to Mexico; home front to stand as a united people The liberties and freedoms that are our Governor Saltonstall of Massachusetts; against the threats from abroad and heritage are not only challenged, but William Allen White; and Wendell work together to accomplish the multi­ civilization itself is threatened. Unity; Willkie. It makes this Congress look silly tude of tasks which are ours. Our yes, national unity_ is our only hope of indeed to tolerate such utterances, let strength is the unison, the inspiration, averting a catastrophe, for the national alone condone and encourage this side­ and the will to win with which we go danger is extremely grave and perilous. show by annually voting more appropria­ about our duties as civilian defense Unity and cooperation with all nations tions to continue the committee. workers, in the mills, in the mines, or at opposing the ruthless Axis tyrants are a The gentleman from Texas, MARTIN the assembly line. vital prerequisite to victory. And then DIES, said to the House on March 4 that Yet even on the home front we have victory can only be accomplished after he intend·ed the expose of an Axis plot to to beware of enemies. Two of the most a long, hard, bloody, and costly struggle. smear personally and undermine confi­ dangerous, rendering most efficient serv­ Do the American people want congres­ dence in President Roosevelt. Has the ice and giving greatest comfort to our sional investigating committee chairmen gentleman from Texas [Mr. DIES] always foes, are rumor and malicious gossip and in newspaper headlines blasting about cooperated with our President and sup­ unwarranted newspaper headlines that Russian communistic dangers, as the ported him, for whom he has suddenly help divide the American people. They gentleman from Texas, MARTIN DIES, did shown such regard and interest? Let's creep in the dark, are invisible, spread in his speech to the House on January look at the record. like wildfire, and do devastating work 28? I detest communism and its unor­ August 1940: Demanded President to They serve the enemy well in time of thodox philosophy, but I pray and thank remove Ickes from cabinet. war; they create distrust and suspicion God that Russia and whatever they be­ October 1940: Said President Roosevelt and weaken our efforts. And, tragically lieve in and stand for are on our side in was evasive on restrictive measures enough, we often, though inadvertently, this present world struggle. As the dis­ against Communists, Nazis, and Fascists become allies of the enemies. tinguished and able gentleman from for fear he might antagonize a few votes I will not vote to waste $100,000 for Texas, HATTON SUMNERS, coming from the j.n the November election. the continuation of the D:es committee. same State as MARTI~ DIES, so well said December 1940: Charged Attorney Let us vote to give this $100,000-or let to the House recently, and I quote him: General Jackson, now in Supreme Court, us make it $500,000-to the F. B. I. to in- 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2297 crease their present personnel and it will Jonkman Paddock Snyder Until further notice: Kean Patman South be money well expended and will repay Keefe Patton Sparkman Mr. McKeough with Mr. Vreeland. this Congress a thousandfold for its wise . Kefauver Pearson Spence Mr. Camp with Mrs. Bolton .. decision in a time of national emergency. Kelly,m. Petersen, Fla. Springer Mr. Drewry with Mr. Maas. Kennedy, Peterson, Ga. Starnes, Ala. Mr. Jarman with Mr. Bates of Massachu• Let us quit these rumors and propa­ MartinJ. Pfeifer, Steagall ganda dissemination that tend to divide Kennedy, Joseph L. Stearns, N.H. setts. ourselves-yes; that even tend to divide Michael J. Pittenger Stefan Mr. Kerr with Mr. Howell. Keogh Plauche Stevenson Mr. Patrick with Mr. Stratton. the allied nations-and let us embark on Kilday Ploeser Sullivan Mr. Cannon of Florida with Mr. Osmers. a program to divide the enemy. Kinzer Plumley Sumner, Til. Mr. Arnold with Mr. Kilburn. For the sake of national unity, let us Knutson Poage Sumners, Tex. Mr. Kleberg with Mr. Bender. eliminate the Dies committee. Kocialkowski Powers Sutphin Kunkel Priest Sweeney Mr. Buck with Mr. Martin of Iowa. Mr. MARCANTONIO. Mr. . Speaker, a Lambertson Ramspeck Taber Mr. Cole of Maryland with Mr. Jenks of New p~rliamentary inquiry. · Landis Randolph Talbot Hampshire. The SPEAKER. The gentleman will Lane Rankin, Miss. Talle Mrs. Norton with Mr. Jarrett. state it. Lanham Rankin, Mont. Tarver Mr. Kramer with Mr. Curtis. Lea Reece, Tenn. Tenerowicz Mr. Crosser with Mr. Bishop. Mr. MARCANTONIO. Is the resolu­ LeCompte Reed, Ill. Terry Mr. West with Mr. Douglas. tion subject to amendment? Lewis Reed, N.Y. Thill Lynch Rees, Kans. Thorn Mr. Gavagan with Mr. Mitchell. The SPEAKER. If the previous ques­ McCormack Rich Thomas, N.J. Mr. Vasey of Massachusetts with Mrs. Byron. tion is ordered, it is not subject to McGehee Richards Thomas, Tex. Mr. Bradley of Pennsylvania with Mr. amendment. McGregor Rivers Thomason Heffernan. Mr. SABATH. Mr. Speaker, I have McLaughlin Rizley Tibbott Mr. Izac with Mr. Sasscer. McLean Robertson, Tinkham Mr. Ramsay with Mr. Scrugham. agreed tbat I will not yield to anyone McMillan N. Dak. Traynor to offer any amendment to the resolu­ Mahon Robertson, Va. Treadway Mr. Schaefer of Illinois with Mr. Tolan. Manasco Robinson, Utah Van Zandt Mr. Walter with Mr. Sheridan. tion,· and I am going to keep my faith, Mansfield Robsion, Ky. Vincent. Ky. Mr. Larrabee with Mr. White. as I always try to do. Therefore, with Martin, Mass. Rockefeller Vinson, Ga. Mr. Worley with Mr. Shannon. regret, I move the previous question. Mason Rockwell Voorhis, Calif. The previous question was ordered. May Rodgers, Pa. Vorys, Ohio The result of the vote was announced Merritt Rogers Mass. Wadsworth as above recorded. ' The SPEAKER. The question is on Meyer,Md. Rogers, Okla. Ward agreeing to the resolution. Michener Rolph Wasielewski A motion to reconsider was laid on the Mills, Ark. Romjue Weaver table. Mr. MARCANTONIO. Mr. Speaker, I Mills, La. Russell Welch demand the yeas and nays. Monroney Sanders Wene DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE APPRO­ Moser Satterfield Wheat PRIATION BILL, FISCAL YEAR 1943 The yeas and nays were ordered. Mott Sauthoff Whelchel . The question was taken; and there Mundt Schuetz Whitten Mr. TARVER. Mr. Speaker, I move were-yeas 331, nays 46, not voting 54, as Murdock Scott Whittington Murray Secrest Wickersham that the House resolve itself into the Com­ follows: ' Myers, Pa. Shafer, Mich. Wigglesworth mittee of the Whole House on the state [Roll No. 38] Nelson Sheppard Williams of the Union for the further considera­ YEA8-331 Nichols Short Wilson Norrell Sikes Winter tion of the bill (H. R. 6709) making ap­ Allen, Ill. Cluett Gifford O'Brien, N.Y. Simpson Wolcott • propriations for the Department of Agri­ Allen, La. Cochran Gilchrist O'Connor Smith, Maine Wolfenden, Pa. culture for the fiscal year ending June 30, Andersen, Coffee, Nebr. Gillette O'Hara Smith, Ohio Wolverton, N.J. H. Carl Cole, N.Y. Gillie O'Leary Smith, Pa. Woodruff. Mich. 1943, and for other purposes. Anderson, Calif. Collins Gore Oliver Smith, Va. Woodrum, Va. The motion was agreed to. Anderson, Colmer Gossett O'Neal Smith, Wash. Youngdahl N. Mex. Cooley Graham O'Toole Smith, W.Va. Zimmerman Accordingly the House resolved itself Andresen, Cooper Grant, Ala. Pace Smith, Wis. into the Committee of the Whole House · August H. Copeland Grant, Ind. on the state of the Union for the further Andrews Costello Green NAY8-46 Angell Courtney Gregory Baldwin Granger Marcantonio consideration of the bill (H. R. 6709) the Arends Cox Guyer Bloom Haines O'Brien, Mich. agricultural appropriation bill, with Mr. Barden Cravens Gwynne Buckler, Minn. Hill, Wash. Pheiffer, RAMSPECK in the chair. Barnes Crawford Hall, · Celler Hook William T. Barry Creal Edwin Arthur Coffee. Wash. Jackson Pierce The Clerk read the title of the bill. Bates, Ky. Crowther Hall, Delaney Kee Rabaut Mr. TARVER. Mr. Chairman, I desire Baumhart Culkin Leonard W. Dickstein Kelley, Pa. Sabath Beam Cullen Halleck Dingell Kirwan Sacks to submit a unanimous-consent request. Beckworth Cunningham Hancock Downs Klein Scanlon When the Committee rose on Monday it Beiter D'Alesandro Hare Eberharter Kopplemann Schulte was considering, and had been consider­ Bell Davis, Ohio Harness Eliot, Mass. Leavy Shanley Bennett Davis, Tenn. Harrington Fitzgerald Lesinski Somers, N.Y. ing for a considerable while, the C-om­ Blackney Day Harris, Ark. Fogarty McGranery Weiss modity Credit Corporation paragraph in Bland Dies Harris, Va. Folger Mcintyre Wright the bill, and there is, I believe, e>ne amend­ Boehne Dirksen Hart Ford, Thomas F.Maciejewskl Young Boggs Disney Harter Gale Maciora ment pending which would strike out the Boland Ditter Hartley NOT VOTING-54 limitation which would prohibit the use Bonner Domengeaux Healey of the funds of the Commodity Credit Boren Dondero Hebert Arnold Heffernan Norton Boykin Daughton Heidinger Bates, Mass. Howell O'Day Corporation in the sale of agricultural :Bradley, Mich. Duncan Hendricks Bender Izac Osmers commodities owned or controlled by the Brooks Durham HeEs Bishop Jarman Patrick Government at less than parity prices, Brown, Ga. Dworshak Hill, Colo. Bolton Jarrett Ramsay Brown, Ohio Eaton Hinshaw Bradley, Pa. Jenks, N. H. Sasscer with certain modifications as to the sale Bryson Edmiston Hobbs Buck Johnson, Schaefer, Ill. of deteriorated wheat and wheat for in­ Buckley, N. Y. Ell1ott, Calif. Hoffman Byron Lyndon B. Scrugham dustrial alcohol purposes, and cotton for Bulwinkle Ellis Holbrock Camp Kerr Shannon new cotton uses. At that time I sought Burch Elston Holmes· Cannon, Fla. Kilburn Sheridan Burdick Engel Hope casey, Mass. Kleberg Stratton to have the Committee agree to limit Burgin Faddis Houston Cole, Md. Kramer Tolan further debate to an additional 30 min­ Butler Fellows Hull Crosser Larrabee Vreeland utes, but that was unsatisfactory to a Byrne Fenton Hunter Curtis Ludlow Walter Canfield Fish Imhoff Dewey McKeough West majority of the Committee. At this time . Cannon, Mo. Fitzpatrick Jacobsen Douglas Maas White I wish to request unanimous consent that Capozzoli Flaherty Jenkins, Ohio Drewry Magnuson Worley further debate or the paragraph and all Carlson Flannagan Jennings Englebright Martin, Iowa Carter Forand Jensen Gavagan Mitchell amendments thereto be limited to close Cartwright Ford, Leland M. Johns So the resolution was agreed to. at 5 o'clock. In submitting this request Case, S.Dak. Ford, Miss. Johnson, Calif. I wish to say it is my purpose after the Chapman Fulmer Johnson, Ill. The Clerk announced the following Chenoweth Gamble Johnson, Ind. pairs: conclusion of action on this paragraph, Chiperfield Gathings Johnson, On this vote: to· move that the Committee rise. Clark Gearhart LuthcrA. The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection Clason Gehrmann Johnson, Okla. Mr. Ludlow for, with Mrs. O'Day against. Claypool Gerlach Johnson, W.Va. Mr. Englebright for, with Mr. Magnuson to the request of the gentleman from Clevenger Gibson Jones against. Georgia? · 2298 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11 Mr. GILCHRIST. Mr. Chairman, re­ . to parity as quickly as the Government Street Journal of the 29th of January, serving the right to object, how will the removes the depressing effect from these and will read some of the headlines and time be distributed? sales at less than parity. There is a de­ statements therein contained: Mr. TARVER. That, of course, will be liberate attempt by the Government at [From the Wall Street Journal of in the discretion of the Chair and I would the present time to drive the price below January 29, 1942] not have anything to do with that. parity, and it has been publicly stated by WICKARD'S REMARKS ON CORN WEAKEN MAJOR Mr. GILCHRIST. I should like to . responsible officials of the Government MARKETs-COTTON DECLINES AMOST $3- have 4 or 5 minutes. that it is their purpose and their desire FUTURES INDEX CLOSES OFF 1.34 Mr. TARVER. The Chair, I am sure, to drive the market down below -parity. COMMODITY TRENDS will endeavor to deal fairly with every­ This means driving the return or the Commodity markets were thrown into sud­ one who desires to speak. wages of the individual down below den upheaval yesterday by Secretary Wick­ Mr. DffiKSEN. Mr. Chairman, re­ parity. ard's remarks on recent trading in corn. serving the right to object, and I shall As to the suggestion that the Govern­ The break was the heaviest suffered since not object, I would suggest to the gentle­ ment loan of 85 percent of parity will fix mid-October 1941. Cotton at the day's lows man from Georgia that the last 10 min­ was off $3.05 a bale, corn and rye the limit the price of the next crop, I must dis­ decline of 5 cents a bushel permitted dur­ utes of the time be reserved for the sub­ agree with my good friend from Oregon. ing 1 day's trading, and soybeans within committee and be divided between the Demand will bring prices up. Th·e de­ one-eighth cent of 6-cent permissible decline. minority and the majority. mand for all basic farm commodities is Mr. TARVER. I add that to my re­ better today than it has been for years. And here is another excerpt from the quest, Mr. Chairman. I think on this Cotton is bringing a reasonably good daily market report of the Wall Street side we probably would not require the price-not because of any 85-percent-of­ Journal for January 29: 5 minutes we would have, but in case parity loan. The price is substantially· The upturn in cotton was halted I'esterday. there might be some developments in the above the loan value simply because the A selling movement which at the close had $2.35 $2.95 debate that might make it advisable to market want~ cotton, and no deliberate forced values down to a bale was touched off by the announced intention of use such time I will incorporate that in effort is being made to break the cotton the Department of Agriculture to stabilize my request. market, as is being made in the case of corn prices around 85 percent of parity. Mr. RANKIN of Mississippi. Mr. wheat and corn. The only basic com­ Chairman. reserving the right -to object, modities that are selling appreciably be­ In justice to the Secretl:\.rY let it be what page does that take us down to? low parity today are the commodities said that these markets have recovered Mr. TARVER. This paragraph ends · that the Department of Agriculture is materially, but no man ought to have the on page 78. I contemplate, Mr. Chair­ deliberately trying to hold down. And power to cause such losses. Now the gen­ man, that the next paragraph should be why should the Government try to keep tleman from Oregon proposes by his read, but not debated or any amendments any farmer from getting parity in the amendment to allow the Secretary to sell thereto considered this afternoon. market place? surplus stocks away below parity. Farm­ The CHAffiMAN. Is there objection I believe, Mr. Chairman, that the time ers are entitled to parity. No man should to the request of the gentleman from has come to make good on our oft-re­ expect to put them or any of them on a Georgia? peated pledge of parity prices for agri­ lower level. They want equality, and no There was no objection. culture. For many long years our Gov­ man should be given the power to pre­ The Chair recognizes the gentleman ernment has told our farmers that it vent what Congress has been striving to from Texas [Mr. PoAGE]. wanted them to enjoy parity prices. On give to the farm people during the past Mr. POAGE. Mr. Chairman, on yes­ the other hand, it has loaned them 51 10 years. Let us have justice for agri­ terday the distinguished author of this percent of parity and other similar low culture. amendment said he could not understand figures. on their crops. When the farmer We ought not to require some of our ·why anyone would want to keep this pro­ needed help the most, his Government farmers to produce feed at 80 or 85 p·er­ vision prohibiting the sale of commodi­ graciously offered him a loan of 50 cents cent of parity in order that feeders may ties at lesf than parity in the bill. I was on the parity dollar and told him to be get 130 percent of parity. Corn is now a little surprised at my good friend from thankful. He was grateful for the small at 81 percent, while hogs stand at 110 Oregon making that statement after the favors he received, and now there are percent of parity and beef cattle are at interest I know he has shown in securing those who seem to think that he should 13r percent thereof. If this amendment a fair price for the products of the farm. be delighted to always enjoy a condition carries, it then may be said with one of The reason we want this provision in the of peonage. He is told, at a time when old- bill, Governor, and the reason we want industrial wages are higher than they unto every one that hath shall be given, it,.! will say to all of the Members of the have ever been in the history of the world and he shall have abundance; but from him Committee, is because we believe the and while agricultural prices are still 20 that hath not shall be taken away even that farmers of this Nation are entitled to a percent under the 1929 level, that he which he hath. reasonably fair return for the products should receive only 85 percent of parity I want all farmers to be prosperous. of their labor just the· same as any other and like it. Mr. Chairman, if you adopt Livestock producers should have good re­ citizen of the Nation. I do not believe this amendment, the farmer will have to turns, and good prices for feed eventually any group in this Nation is ordained of get along with 85 percent of a fair price, bring good prices for livestock. You can God or of government to work for starva­ but you cannot make him like it, and not make much money in the end by tion wages in a condition of peonage in you cannot make me believe that it is feeding cheap corn. Two minutes is a order that other groups in this Nation fair. short time to talk about this. . may enjoy a larger income. [Here the gavel fell.] The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gen .. Mr. PIERCE. Mr. Chairman, will the Mr. GILCHRIST. Mr. Chairman, I tleman from Iowa has expired. gentleman yield? shall now call Mr. Wickard, the Secretary Mr. O'CONNOR. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. POAGE. Surely; I gladly yield to · of Agriculture, as a witness. He is a think it would be well to read just what my good friend from Oregon. good friend of mine; he is a good Secre­ is sought to be eliminated from the bill, Mr. PIERCE. Is not the price of wheat tary of Agriculture; and ht is 0. K. He and then we will have a more thorough fixed this. fall by the loan value, with was down at Atlanta on January 28, and understanding: the prospect of its being upward of 200,- there made a speech to some gathermg, Provided further, That none of the funds 000,000 bushels more than we had a year and the next morning the markets· in made available by this paragraph shall be ago? · Chicago dropped 5 cents on corn and used for administrative expenses connected Mr. POAGE. I do not think so, Gov­ rye, and almost the limit on cotton. This with the sale of Government-owned stocks of ernor. drop in market prices aggregated mil­ farm commodities at less than parity as de• Mr. PIERCE. The loan value alone lions and millions of dollars, and the fined by the Agricultural Adjustment Act of will fix the value. farmers of the country suffered it. This 1938. Mr. POAGE. There you and I entirely loss was caused by the speech which the If this amendment goes through, there disagree. I believe that the price of all Secretary of Agriculture made in Atlanta is not one single bit of protection for the of these basic farm .commodities will go the night before. I have here the Wall wheat or the corn farmer, or any other 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2299 farmer in connection with trying to se­ Mr. PACE. Would not the gentleman propriations for agriculture. Heaven cure parity prices. We have a tremen­ add that striking this provision might knows, we need to economize. dous surplus of wheat now and of corn. be accepted by the Department as a We were told ,bY' the gentleman from We have a surplus of all kinds of farm green light to start dumping these Georgia, chairman of the subcommittee, products. With that provision out, the commodities? and likewise by the gentleman from Government of the United States, just as Mr. HOPE. I think they would be jus­ Kansas, ranking Members of the sub­ the gentleman from Missouri [Mr. CAN­ tified in thinking that we ·had no objec­ committee, neither of whom can be NON] pointed out the other day, has the tion to it. rightfully classified as spendthrifts, that power to control the price by placing any [Here the gavel fell.] the appropriations recommended this or all of these Government-owned or The CHAffiMAN. The Chair recog­ year are approximately 33% percent, or Government-controlled products on the nizes the gentleman from Michigan [Mr. one-third, less than a year ago. In the market. Then down goes the price. Now HooK] for 2 minutes. Committee of the Whole House we have is the time to show whether we are friends Mr. HOOK. Mr. Chairman, it may be made further drastic reductions. of the farmer or whether we are going to If the ax is applied to the other appro­ render him lip service or actual service that in the 8 years I have been a member of the Committee on Agriculture I have priations yet to be considered, in the same by giving him parity, as the country has proportion that it has been applied to the promised to give him. not gotten through my head what the agriculture bill, we will have gone a long Mr. COFFEE of Nebraska. Mr. Chair­ farmer actually wanted. I have always heard that a surplus was not a good thing way toward drastic reductions in govern­ man, will the g~ntleman yield? for agriculture. Now we have these large mental expenditures. Mr. O'CONNOR. Yes. It is almost amusing at times to note Mr. COFFEE of Nebraska. Does the surpluses that are a threat upon the mar­ ket.· we will have another big crop how some of our friends become excited gentleman_think that the retention of and shed crocodile tears in behalf of this provision in the bill will absolutely this year piling on top of these surpluses now on hand. If in an orderly way we economy when agriculture is involved. prevent the Community Credit Corpora­ But when we began to talk about parity tion from selling any of these stocks can place in the channels of commerce those heavy surpluses that i: have always prices for· farm products, and when we below parity? talk about putting the farmer on even Mr. O'CONNOR. It will prevent them been told were a burden upon the market and a danger to the·farmer, I think we keel with industry and labor, the poor from using any of the funds provided in old farmer is immediately branded as a this bill. It may be done but such action would help not only the farmer but the profiteering, greedy old money grabber would be contrary to what we have been consumer as well. In other words, we and chiseler, who is trying to bring about saying and doing. put in a control program for the purpose of eliminating surpluses, in order to give uncontrolled inflation and cost the public Mr. TABER. The gentleman would a billion dollars iti food prices. How ut­ not like to hold out to the farmer the be­ the farmer a better price for his com­ modity. terly ridiculous. lief that the retention of the provision in It is passing strange, to say the least, this bill would be -vi any protection what­ Now that we have a surplus and what that just a few months ago, when we wc.-re ever? is known as the ever-normal granary, or getting ready to make another campaign, Mr. O'CONNOR. I say, this, that it whatever it is called, they say, "Let us what pretty language we used in our re­ goes just as far as you can in a bill of this keep that surplus. Do not let it go out spective party commitments.. Our kind. into the channels of commerce unless friends on this side of the aisle were Mr. TARVER. - It will be effective un­ we can sell it at not less than parity." If pledging full parity at the market pl-ace; less it is evaded. we can get rid of that surplus, if we and on this side of th~ · aisle, at Phila­ Mr. O'CONNOR. Exactly. Yes; if can get it into the channels of com-· delphia, we were saying, "Within the the Government does not evade or duck, merce, even below parity at this time, if shadows of Independence Hall we sol-. it will prohibit the sale of those com­ we get rid of that surplus certainly you emnly reaffirm that a prosperous and modities helow the parity price. will go up to parity when you do not stable agriculture is the foundation of our The CHAIRMAN. The time of the have a surplus. The question of supply economic structure, and the farmer is gentleman from Montana has expired. and demand will then govern the .mar­ entitled to a profit price for his products Mr. HOPE. Mr. Chairman, I am op­ ket. If you keep that surplus there, you and a temporary and permanent govern­ posed to the Pierce amendment. I say are going to be at the mercy of the mental policy which will establish and that, notwithstanding the fact that I am speculators.. You are going to depress . maintain for him. an equitable balance .not very well satisfi.ed with the language the market when this artificial thing is · between labor, industry, and agriculture.'~ in the bill. I think it was perhaps a over. The President of the United Did we mean it when we said that in mistake to put a provision of this kind_in States, the Secretary of Agriculture, and . 1940? Was it merely pretty language, the bill. I think · it would have been others interested in winning this war, to secure votes? Or do we sincere:y want better to leave the matter to the Com­ tell us that we should not keep this equality for the farmer, when compared mittee . on Agriculture, which is already restriction in this bill. I am willing to with labor and industry? That is all considering legislation of this kind-. But defer to their judgment. Inflation is a parity undertakes to do. if we adopt the Pierce amendment, the real danger. If we spiral prices in agri­ You vote day . after day to keep the House is going to go on record as being culture, labor, and. industry, we will ruiri wage scale high. You say to the worker, opposed to the parity principle. I of­ this Nation with inflation which will im.: "You shall wqrk only 40 hours per week, fered an amendment to this provision the pede our war efforts more than Pearl and for overtime you shall be paid time other day, which I felt would be helpful. Harbor. Let us be sensible, gentlemen. and one-half, and for holidays and Sun­ luxuri~s I think the provision as now written is Give up some of our peacetime days, double time." You say to the indus~ too rigid, even with the Reed amendment. and go· on a war footing. Any retarding trialist, "We gua'rantee and underwrite Nevertheless, if we adopt the Pierce of the war effort means more sacrifice your contracts for national defense ma­ amendment this House will have gone on and loss of life. Vote for this amend­ terials on a cost-plus basis"; but to the record as being opposed to the .principle ment and support your Commander in farmer you say, "You are entitled to only that the Federal Government ought to Chief. 85 percent of parity, and if· you insist use its powers to give the farmer parity, The CHAIRMAN. The Chair- recog­ on equality, we will dump upon the mar­ instead of using those powers to keep nizes the gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. kets of the country wheat and corn prices below parity. So I hope that not­ RIZLEY] for 2 minutes. owned or controlled by the Government, withstanding the fact that I ~m not en­ Mr. RIZLEY. Mr. Chairman, the past in order to keep the market price of your tirely in accord with the language now in 6 days have been consumed in this debate produ'cts below the parity level." · the · bill, we will vote down the Pierce on appropriations for agriculture. Just a few weeks ago this House, by a amendment and then let the Senate or A stranger within our gates would un:. very substantial majority, said to Brother the conference committee work out the doubtedly come to the conclusion that Henderson, the Price Control Adminis­ proper detail. we are attempting to balance the entire trator, "You must not discriminate Mr. PACE. Mr. Chairman, will the national budget and doing it all through against the farmer, you must not fix gentleman yield? the appropriations that have been rec­ a maximum price for any agricultural Mr. HOPE. I yield. ommended by the subcommittee on ap- commodity below (a) the market price 2300 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH· 11 equivalent to 110 percent of the parity to encourage the sale of farm commodi­ farmer, hard-working =nonstriking farm­ price, or comparable price for the com­ ties below parity. er, what you kickin' for? We ain't goin' modity adjusted for grade, location, and If you have not gone into the details d_o nothing to you but skin you and gut sea~onal differentials, as determined and of the matter involved I ask you to read you. We admit that since the parity published by the Secretary of Agricul­ the speeches made by the gentleman from period 1909-14 the wages of labor have ture; or m New York [Mr. WADS­ question. I ani not in favor of the Gov­ PApEJ. . WORTH], who only had 2 minutes and ernment dumping what may be regarded Mr. PACE. Mr. Chairman, there are had not yet the opportunity to make the as surplus and thereby depressing the two things the gentleman from New statement he wanted to make. market, but I do think that in view of York [Mr. WADSWORTH] should consider. Mr. WADSWORTH. Mr. Chairman, the demand for grain to make alcohol, One is that on March 1 cattle were sell­ the gentleman from Nebraska is very which in turn is converted into smokeless ing at 130 percent of parity, and it is a kind and takes me completely by sur­ powder, that a great deal of it can and little hard to understand why, when he prise. It is my own fault if I cannot will be used for that purpose. . is receiving that price, he would not want say anything in 2 minutes. Mr. Chairman,. let me say again that the wheat and corn producers to get at I was going to call attention to the since our Government is asking our · least 100 percent of parity for their com­ observations made by the gentleman farmers to produce more and more food modity. He also overlooked the fact from Nebraska the other day apropos of of all kinds, and especially meat and that when the cost of feed goes ur. .to the the problem of the feeder. The price of dairy products, there should not be any cattle raiser his parity price goes up. So feed in which farmers are interested in difficulty in the use of any extra grain there cannot be any great loss to the greater numbers even than those who that we might have on hand if we will cattle producer. raise it is rapidly going up. The whole use a little judgment in taking care of it. I want to say this and I do not want enormo~s dairy industry is affected, ,the So far as corn is concerned, only a small to be critical of anyone. I do not see whole beef-feeding industry, the whole part of it is used for human food; nearly . how anyone who appreciates the eco·­ hog- and lamb-feeding industries, they all of it is used for feeding livestock, nomic . condition of the farmer or the are all affected. which in turn is converted into meat. It condition of the United States Treasury I anticipate if this provision is left in appears that in the very near future the can vote for this amendment. This the bill prohibiting the Commodity demand for dairy products and meats is amendment, if adopted, is likely to cost Credit Corporation from selling any of .going to be aL we can supply. We will the United States Treasury $400,000,000, this stuff for good feed that the price need all the grain we can possibly produce because we have voted to give the farmer of feed will · go up higher and higher and in order to satisfy the demands for meat, parity either ·out of the market place or will increase five to ten dollars a ton in poultry, and dairy products. Mr. Hen-· out of the United States Treasury. The the next month. You will notice, and derson, the Price Administrator, has just gentleman from New York [Mr. TABER] the gentleman from Nebraska will notice, recently served notice that he is placing figures that that would cost $350,000,000. that only yesterday or the day before Mr. a ceiling on the price of pork. It is likely I think he is high. I think it could prob­ Henderson put a ceiling on the wholesale -that the same thing will be done to beef ably go to $250,000,000, unless we can price of pork. That is your beginning. and other meat products within the keep the price up around parity, so there That, of course, governs the price of rather near future. is $250,000,000 that will be saved the live hogs. If Mr. Henderson can put a Treasury if the farmer can get parity ceiling on the finished products of feed Mr. Chairman, I do not think the prices when he sells his products. and you encourage a rise in the cost of adoption of the amendment before us will make much difference, except' that the. Mentioning one item, the Government feed, you will completely dislocate the has a little over 5,000,000 bales of cotton. - whole livestock and da1ry industry. approval of it might lead the producers of the country to think that Congress does It has invested in it approximately 13 I hope this amendment is adopted. and a fraction cents. It is selling that Mr. COFFEE of Nebraska. Mr. Chair­ not favor parity prices for farm products. cotton under the present law in an or­ man, I want to impress upon the Mem­ I know Congress does not want to leave that impression. derly way, 300,000. bales a month. The bers at this point that it has only been last it sold was at 19.30 cents per pound. by virtue of the Commodity Credit laws Mr. Chairman, the farmers of this It is making a profit of a little over 6 that the price of corn, wheat, and cotton country are certainly not demanding ex­ cents a pound or $30 a bale. Multiply ·are maintained at the price today. The orbitant prices for their products. · All in that by 5,000,000 and you will see that · Government is not trying to tear those the world they want is a fair and reason­ under the present arrangement the prices down. It is only by virtue of this able price on the basis of what they are United States Government will recover loan program that these prices are up required to pay for the things they need about $150,000,000 profit out of the cotton today where they are. to buy. it now has on hand. If we permit the [Here the gavel fell.] Mr. Chairman, I am sure tne farmers Government to dump that cotton 4,000,- The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog­ and producers of this country would be a 000 or 5,000,000 bales at a shot, and break nizes the gentleman from Kansas [Mr. lot better off and better satisfied if a good the market, not only will the United REES]. many of the restrictions now in effect States Treasury itself lose $150,000,000 Mr. REES of Kansas. Mr. Chairman, could be remoyed. Let them go ahead but those fellows down in my country in view of world conditions and survey­ and produce food supplies in line with the who today are putting the seed in the ing the situation as it exists in our coun­ increased demand. ground will face a flooded market when · try today, I am not so much alarmed Mr. Chairman, this country is gping to the new crop is ready to move. concerning surpluses of grains and other hold the farmers and producers of the I certainly do not want wild inflation food products as some of my fellow Mem:.. country responsible for supplying an in­ and I do not believe that giving the farm­ bers seem to be this afternoon. In the creased demand for food for it·s con­ ers of this Nation a fair or parity price first place, I think a little surplus of crops sumers that includes hundreds of thou­ -for their products will cause inflation. might act as a kind of safety valve. As I sands of factory workers and millions of other groups have been permitted to re­ have heretofore suggested, a great share. men under arms. Not only that. The· ceive increases far beyond the parity level, LXXXVIII--145 2302 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11 some as much as 400 percent above If this amendment is adopted, then the ing to economize at the expense of the pai'ity. Secretary of Agriculture can continue to farmer. Those who produce the food and fiber sell surplus commodities below parity If you vote for the amendment offered to feed and clothe this Nation ask merely prices. , by my friend and colleague the gentleman for equality of treatment. You should , We have two groups debating in the from Oregon.[Mr. PIERCEl, you are voting not ask or expect them .to accept any interest of the passage of this amend­ to take money out of the Treasury of the less. ment. United States because it is a known fact The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog­ One group says: that you are going to haye to pay the dif­ nizes the gentleman from New York Cut the price of certain farm products be­ ference between the 8!; percent of parity [Mr. EDWIN ARTHUR HALL]. . low parity so that you may give to my farm­ and parity unless the price of cotton, Mr. EDWIN ARTHUR HALL. Mr. ers an opportunity to take advantage of same corn, and wheat reach parity price. Chairman, during the debate today the so as to get a parity price for that which they What are you doing when you continue remark was made that each Representa­ produce. to give to the Governmer1t. the right from tive who spoke from the Well of this This is ridiculous; that is, proposing to day to day to place these commodities on House should let the opinion of his own penalize one group of farmers in the the market below parity? district be submerged in the national interest of another group. I will tell you what you are doing. good. However, I cannot follow that I call the attention of the gentleman You are simply giving to the speculators suggestion in this instance, and urge the from New York [Mr. WADSWORTH] to the an opportunity to ride the futures mar­ Congress to vote against the amendment serious problem confronting the dairy, ket up and down, on all reports and Which is here presented. The dairymen livestock, and poultry people, and that rumors, making millions, without pro­ of my section have been through much is, the price they are paying, after it ducing a living thing. hardship. They have suffered. great leaves the Government and passes I am wondering how long General losses from flood, from ·fire, and from through various hands the manufac­ Motors, the International Harvester peo­ famine. Now, to top it all off, they are turer and others, and on to the people, ple, or any other large industry or busi­ being deprived of the labor which is nec­ whom he is now representing. ness concern, would be able to continue essary to run their farms and operate I charge today that the feed the in business if their products were mar­ their dairies. ·Add to that the cost of farmer buys for livestock and poultry is keted and handled as farm products are labor and the rising cost of ·feed and about $10 or more per ton higher than marketed and handled today. · you will have the reason for my support it should be, although the original price, As far as I am concerned, parity prices of the gentleman's amendment, which the farmer's price, is below parity. today, as suggested by the Secretary of will bring about lower feed prices. The price-control bill, which clearly. Agriculture, are very unfair because, in Mr. BENNETT. Mr. Chairman, will intended to secure for farmers full par­ working out parity, the Secretary of Ag­ the gentleman yield? ity price-in fact, 110 percent of parity­ riculture does not take into consideration Mr. EDWIN ARTHUR HALL. I yield which would have given to cotton farm­ farm wages and that price for farm prod­ to the gentleman from Missouri. ers, for instance, around 21 cents for ucts which would give to farmers· a fair Mr. BENNETT. It has been stated their cotton, has been so administered and just portion of the national income. here that Mr. Henderson is fixing a ceil­ that the Secretary has been permitted to For many years those of us who are ing on the price of meat. Does the gen­ sell these surplus prbducts, especially deeply interested in the farmers of this tleman from New York know anything wheat and corn, below parity price. country have been doing everything pos­ about a disposition on the part of Mr. It appears from statements made by sible to see to it that farmers are paid a Henderson to fix a ceiling on the price the Secretary that this will enable thol:je fair price for their products, a price, as of harness, and mowers, and plows, and who are. engaged in the livestock and stated, which would give to them a just binders, and so on? poultry business to buy these products at proportion of the national income. Mr. EDWIN ARTHUR HALL. I do not a cheaper price, which would tend to For the first time during the admin­ feel that that applies to this particular hold down the ultimate price paid by istration of President Roosevelt we have amendment in any way, because we are consumers. been able to bring farm products, espe­ discussing only the availability of lower- · cially cotton, up to · the so-called parity In the meantime, it appears to me that price. than-parity prices for feeders and dairy­ neither Mr. Henderson nor the Secretary men. I voted for parity when it came of Agriculture is doing anything about It appears now that the Secretary of before the House in the price-control controlling the prices which consumers Agriculture, who is supposed to repre­ bill. I cannot go so far as to support have to pay. In other words, those who sent the best interests of the farmer, is what some consider as parity which, in are operating between farmers and con­ determined to force the farmer's price reality, is way out of reach for my sumers are permitted to add on profits · below parity, even at-the expense of the farmers. to the extent that wher these products taxpayers of the country. Mr. COFFEE of Nebraska. Mr. Chair­ reach the consumer the consumer has to During the fall of 1940 and the spring man, will the gentleman yield? pay unreasonable prices, and that is the of 1941 cotton was selling for 10 and 11 Mr. EDWIN ARTHUR HALL. I yield thing which is destroying the very peo­ cents per pound. to the gentleman from Nebraska. ple you are trying to help, as well as the We reported from the Agriculture Com­ Mr. COFFEE of Nebraska. The gen­ consuming public. mittee a bill, which was passed by Con­ tleman is a member of the Committee on gress and signed by the President, pro­ Agriculture, and he has heard arid knows I have letters in my possession coming viding for an 85-percent parity loan. that parity prices do not fit the livestock from those engaged in the poultry busi­ Immediately the price of cotton and industry at all. ness stating that they are having to pay $64 per ton for mixed feed for their wheat ·commenced advancing until cot­ Mr. EDWIN ARTHUR HALL. I agree poultry. ton reached 19 cents and wheat, which with the gentleman. I think that feed had been selling at 60 cents per bushel, must be made available to these dairy I am in receipt of a letter from one of reached a price of $1 to $1.25 per bushel. farmers at low costs if they are to remain my constituents stating: Now it appears that there are those in the dairy business. In that the Government is begging us to who propose to tear down the whole price increase production, I have secured a larger [Here the gavel felU number of hens, with the hope of producing structure, which, if you are successful Mr. FULMER. Mr. Chairman, I have more eggs, with the further hope of being in doing, will put an end to the farmers listened with a great deal of interest to helpful in this great emergency. in this country. the debate on this amendment which However- It is pitiful to me to see Members wou~d permit the Secretary of Agriculture standing upon the floor of this House to continue to sell Government-owned This same party states- trying to destroy our farmers, the most surplus farm products below parity. I am ·having to sell my eggs at 20 cents per patriotic group in this country, in the dozen, and I am paying $61 per ton for poultry I confess that I cannot understand the feed. name of economy and on the ground philosophy of those who are anxious to that farm prices today are destroying adopt the amendment offered by my good There is one other group in this House, the consumers of this country. friend and colleague [Mr. PIERCE] of the so-called economy group, in season I challenge that statement, and, more Oregon. and out of season, standing up and try- than that, it is ridiculous and untrue. 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 2303 It is ·a known fact that prices which farms a;s landowners and into tenant Second. The. shortage of fertilizer ma­ farmers have to pay for that which they farming. terial, especially nitrate of soda, which, purchase are either fixed under legisla­ As a matter of fact, the. beginning of according to the information that I have, tion passed by the Congress or by mo­ the downfall of agriculture was frpm the is being very unfairly distributed. nopolistic groups who are able not only effect of the passage of the Protective Third. Under the priorities program, to control the production and distribu­ Tariff Act. wherein farmers are not going to be able tion of their products but are absolutely This·tariff policy has consistently oper­ to secure many farm implements, truck able to fix the prices thereon down to ated against the farmer in eve:r:y section transportation, and other things neces­ the ultimate consumer; you can take it of the United States and to the definite sary to carry on successful farming or leave it. advantage of the industrial groups. Dur­ operations. Let me state that as far as I am con­ ing all of these years, while the Congress I want to call your attention at this cerned the procedure on the part of the was taking care of industry with a tariff, · time to. the fact that unless something is Congress in giving price-fixing privileges as well as the passing of legislation from done not only to see to it that farmers are to industry, railroad, .labor, and other tjme to time giving special legislative paid a fair price for that which they groups, while feeding agriculture prom­ privileges to banks, railroads, labor, the produce, but to remedy these serious ises, thereby forcing agriculture into rJoal industry-in fact, practically all problems just referred to, we are not economic slavery, will go down in history groups except farmers-in the mean­ going to be able to produce suffic,ient food as the greatest economic blunder that while farmers have been. losing their and fiber to take care of our people and was ever foisted on a free, patriotic, and farms, becoming tenants and wandering our allies, which is very necessary if we liberty-loving minority. migrants, all of which has brought about are going to be able to win this .war. Farmers are engaged in the most increased Unemployment and billions of ·I hope that the amendment will be technical and complicated business of dollars in losses to business and to our voted down. any line of industry in the United Government. No one today is advocat­ The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog­ States. Many of these people, through ing destroying the tariff policy or these nizes the gentleman from New York [Mr. no fault of their own are uneducated; special legislative privileges given to other TABER]. yet they are supposed to know all about groups, except in certain instances, on Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, a good the various types of soil, kinds and quali­ account of the present emergency. deal of the wheat and corn that is now in ties of planting seed, various grades and However, those of us· who actually and storage or that now belongs to the Gov­ types of fertilizer, and how to properly sincerely represent farmers, that great ernment or is under its control ought to grade their products, of which cotton has class of citizens, who are responsible for be gotten rid of just a~ fast as it can be some thirty-two-odd different grades as feeding and clothing 130,000,000 Amer­ for use in feeding cattle and hogs and to color, staple, and so forth. icans, demand that farmers be given sheep and poultry and for the purpose More than that, farmers are engaged legislation which will definitely place of making alcohol. in the most hazardous business of any in them on an equal economic basis with We have an opportunity now to get rid the country. They have to contend with those other groups and in a position of that stuff. It now and will for many all types of weather-dry and rainy sea­ whereby they may be· properly protected years to come, unless it is moved off, be sons, floods, drought, hailstorms-insects in their own markets: a constant menace to the price which the of every kind, including the cotton boll It appears to me, from the President farmer can receive. I do not believe that weevil, pink boll worm, corn borer and on down to the Secretary and numerous the disposition of this stuff is going to grasshoppers, all of which annually leave Members of Congres.s, that they do not affect materially the price which the thousands of tarmurc:: financially in a realize the importance· of a successful farmer will receive. I do not propose, helpless and hopeless condition. agriculture at this . time, when we are under any circumstances, to be a party If you will take a look at the cotton engaged in one of the greatest struggles to carrying language in here and going crop in South Carolina last year, you will ever in the history of this country. out to the country and saying to the be able to observe a real picture of what The thing that I am fearful of is that farmers that this says that the Com­ I am talking about. we are going to wake up within· the next modity Credit Corporation shall not sell This brings me to one of our major 12 or 24 months to the sad realization below parity price, because it does not, farm problems, that is, the marketing of that the farmers of this country, with and it will not, have that effect. It is farm products. all that they have to contend with. with easy enough to get around it. You are Farmers operate as individuals. Their the type of assistance th~y are receiving simply making a misrepresentation to the products are marketed without any re­ at the hands of those who should be farmer and the people on behalf of the gard to proper grading as far as the deeply interested in a successful agricul­ House of Representatives if you pass the farmer is concerned. He has to take the ture which is necessary in order to win bill with this language in it, for two rea­ other fellow's grading. this war, instead of having an increased sons, for the purpose of keeping myself If we should attempt to legislate to es­ production, which the Secretary of Agri­ in a position where I want to tell the tablish an up-to-date cooperative mar­ culture is requesting at this time, will truth about what I am doing, and for the keting system from the county, through have a production even below normal. further reason that I want to see those the State and national cooperative agen­ Let me give you some definite prob­ surpluses eliminated before it is too late cies, with financial assistance and guid­ lems confronting agriculture, the seri­ and before the people who are raising ance by the Federal Government, so that ousness of which, apparently, the Presi­ stuff on the· r'arm are ruined as a result farm products may be properly graded dent, the Secretary of Agriculture, and of hanging on to that stuff so lom!:. and properly distributed, when and many Members of Congress do not The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog­ where needed, at a fair price, which realize: nizes the gentleman from Alabama [Mr. would be helpful, also, to consumers, why First. The shortage of farm labor STEAGALL]. you would hear a howl from these para­ brought about for three reasons-draft­ Mr. STEAGALL. Mr. Chairman, I am sites" who · are now operating between ing many from the farm, W. P. A.• and sure Members of the House are just as farmers and consumers equal to the other activities, and, in that thousands familiar as I am with what transpired blasting bombs of H'tler. have left the farms, entering other lines during recent weeks with respect to the The time . was that 90 percent of our of work with private industry, national legislation passed by this House relating people lived on the land or in small defense factories, or employment with to farm products. towns. In these years agricultural prod­ the Government. Naturally, we cannot The provision of the pending bill to ucts formPd the mainspring of our com­ blame these people for leaving the farm which the amendment is offered is noth­ merce. because of the difference in wages re­ ing more or less than an effort of the During all of these past years, however, ceived in connection with these various House to require ·observance of existing because of the changes in policies, legis­ lines of work as compared with the small law by the agencies of the Government lation, and the monopolistic operations wages ,paid on the farm, being the best established under laws passed by Con­ of certain groups, agriculture has been that farmers can do based on the price gress. This is all there is in this pro­ gradually declining with thousands of that they receive for that which they vision of the pending bill. It presents a good, honest farmers being forced off the produce. larger issue that transcends the mere 2304 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE MARCH 11 matter of price control. The question men representing dairy farmers do ferability clause that provides for ex­ now is whether legislation passed by Con­ not let him do it in your State. I know change of funds up to 5 percent, and, gress shall be treated as the law of the they will not let him do it in Oklahoma. besides that, the President has a blank land. If we are not to require the ob­ Imagine a 5-day week for dairy cows. check and can provide for any amount of servance .Qf the laws now on the statute He may brag about the manner in which money desired. It was, therefore, rather books designed to protect the farmers cf he has been able to mine the miners, intriguing that the President was so elo­ the country and those who toil on our but I do not believe he can fleece the quently silent on this point on Monday farms against exports to beat down the dairy farmers. Another point: Some of night when he addressed the country. wages of farm labor to unbearable these agencies are building information There remains, then, the element of pub­ levels-if we are not going to require centers-using funds which should be lic psychology, I think the· thing that the observance of those laws we ought to spent for defense purposes. The public bothers most everybody is the general reconsider and repeal those measures by does not want that kind of information. reaction and the idea that will be gotten proper legislative procedure. If we are The . information they desire is how we by the farmers of the country as to what not going to do that we ought, out of can build more bomber planes, tanks, the intent of Congress is with reference regard for the dignity and prestige of cannons, and ammunition, produce food to parity. We talked on it as early as the Congress and t:Pe prerogatives of the for defense, and how we can control the 1938, in the second farm bill. We have legislative branch of the Government, to strike situation, so that we can operate been discussing it for years and have require those responsible for the en­ 24 hours a day and longer than 40 hours given assurance of parity. Then we forcement of legislation to respect and a week. The people out home want to come along with the Price Control Act obey the laws under which they hold write some of the legislation instead of and in section 3-A give the farmers as­ their jobs. If we are not going to repeal the department heads doing it. I be­ surance that there sha11 be no maximum these laws, we ought to require those lieve that labor restrictions should be price below the level that represents charged with authority for their admin­ removed to the extent that labor coulc'l, practically 110 percent of parity. There istration to enforce them as they are work at least 8 hours a day 6 days a week is the additional fact that on Mon­ written upon the statute books. and direct defense plants to operate 3 day last we passed the parity section of Miss SUMNER of Illinois. We ought at shifts of men-that is, operate 24 hours this bill, and we cannot go back to it now. least to make it clear to the public just a day continuously. Furthermore, Mr. There could be a motion to recommit, but exactly what we have been trying to do. Henderson may know how to pedal a bi­ there is no other way to get at it. It Mr. STEAGALL. Everybody knows cycle, but I do not believe he knows the provides and, in fact, directs the Secre­ what Congress has been trying to do. problems of the farmers of the country. tary of Agriculture to make commitments There is no misunderstanding about He will not even allow you 5 ounces of and incur obligations for full parity. that; after an arduous struggle lasting camelback rubber to mend and really That is the language of the bill now over a period of years, we have been able preserve and conserve a 25-pound tire. before us. to enact legislation to secure parity prices This is false economy. The hour :Pas To incur obligations and make commit­ as the least that justice demands. This arrived when you and I, as Congressmen, ments for full parity. was agreed by everybody to be right, and representing the people, write the laws Where does it leave us if we are going we now propose to enforce it by control of and see that they are enacted. I am to play botL ends against the middle? appropriations, which seems to be the for 100-percent parity for farmers. only method left to enforce it. That would be torpedoing parity. It is Mr. CARLSON. Mr. Chairman, it an in~onsistency. I am afraid that we The CHAffiMAN. The Chair recog­ seems to me that we have just got down may get ourselves in the position of the nizes the gentleman from New York [Mr. to a very practical situation. This House little mule that was balky and fell down REED]. and this Congress has gone on record in the street. The farmer could not get Mr. REED of New York. Mr. Chair­ for parity, for agriculture. I think the him to budge. Finally a veterinarian man, I just want to clear away all this chairman of the Committee on Agricul­ came alon[, and the owner said, "I can't aJarm about this surplus so far as grain ture hit the nail on the head when he do a thing with this mule." The vet­ is concerned. Here are some fi§;ures said that if this House votes for the erinarian reached into his case, got out brought out in the hearings before our Pierce amendment and tells the farmers a syringe and squirted something into committee today which I think will be of this country they will not get parity the hindquarters of the mule, and he got of interest. or are not entitled to it, the Treasury of up and ran down the street. The owner It requires 55 gallons of alcohol to the United States will be called upon for said, "How much is that?" The veteri­ dehydrate the necessary amount of pow­ from three hundred million to four hun­ narian said, "That is 10 cents."- The der to· fire a 16-inch shell. To produce dred million dollars. That is the first owner handed him 30 cents and said, 1 gallon of alcohol requires 16% pounds thing. The second is, there has been a "Here; give me two more shots of that of raw sugar. To fire a 16-inch gun once great deal of discussion about surpluses. so I can catch that mule." is equivalent to the firing of 907% I think we ought to quit worrying about That is the position we are in at the pounds of raw sugar~ Every time you these surpluses. The gentleman from present time. Having assured the coun­ fire a 16-inch gun you fire 22 bushels of New York [Mr. REED] told us a few try of parity, which we adopted by a corn, the amount necessary to dehydrate moments ago how many bushels of corn 2-to-1 vote on this bill on Monday, yet the powder contained in a 16-inch shell. it takes to produce the alcohol to fire one we are going to have to have a couple When you consider your surplus and 16-inch shell, and we do not need to of shots of something out of the Treasury realize the magnitude of this war, you worry about surpluses very long, if we in order to catch that index level for farm will see what is going to happen to this quit using sugar and use corn to produce prices. If the elimination of the pro­ surplus. alcohol. Let us produce all of the corn posal in the bill to compel the Commodity The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog­ we can in this country. The European Credit Corporation to sell at parity nizes the gentleman from Oklahoma countries are going to need it, and we should result in a lowering of farm [Mr. WICKERSHAM]. are going to need it, and therefore this prices, it would require a larger amount Mr. WICKERSHAM. Mr. Chairman, afternoon I hope the House will vote of funds out of the Treasury to carry out I believe the one-gallus farmers are down the Pierce amendment and retain the parity mandate contained in this bill. getting tired of some department heads this provision in the bill. Now, with respect to alcohol, do not openly and flauntingly ignoring the pro­ Mr. DIRKSEN. Mr. Chairman, it was be disturbed about that. Notice in the visions of the law and making their own the great Sage of Concord who said that hearings that the Commodity Credit Cor­ rules. There is another item which I a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of poration refers to "Government-owned desire to mention here: Mr. John L. small minds, but, notwithstanding that commodities." Included in that are 157,- Lewis has been going over the country fact, on a question of policy I do like to 000,000 bushels of corn and 170,000,000 exacting excessive payments from the be consistent. This matter has disturbed bushels of wheat. patriotic men in order that they may me a good deal, particularly so since I There has been more misinformation receive employment in the defense recognize the complete inefficacy of the on 'this floor about the subject of high­ plants. He is also traveling around provision which is now in the bill if the proof industrial alcohol for the produc­ making an effort to organize the dairy Commodity Credit Corporation is dis­ tion of powder than any other subject farmers, and I hope you other Congress- posed to circumvent it. There is a trans- that I have heard ventilated here. The 1942 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE _2305 com and wheat referred to above belongs affairs of the Government may be so dis­ the farmer below parity on anything he to the Government. It can be transferred honest as to seek to avoid a mandate by grows or sells. In our section of the by other methods than by sale. This can the Congress of the United States. I do country most of the small business is be transferred to the distilleries. It is not not wish to believe that. I do know this suffeti.ng greatly because they have re­ a sale. It can be converted into alcohol to be true, however, that if we keep this ceived no war-production business. We and the Government could furnish the limitation in the bill, by rejecting the have no industries to speak of in the great grain and simply pay the cost of con­ Pierce amendment, we will send to the Southwest. If the farmer is cut below version. So you see there is no problem. Senate the framework upon which that parity on the things he has to sell the Here are 327,000,000 bushels of grain that body may build an effective limitation small business man in our section is the people of the United States own to­ which nobody can avoid, no matter how going to suffer even more than the day that will manufacture approximately much he may be inclined in that direc­ farmer. If farm markets are broken the 775,000,000 gallons of 190-degree high­ tion, and which, under the rules of the result will be economic bondage for the proof alcohol, for the manufacture of House, it is not possible for us to incor­ entire Southwest. smokeless powder. porate in the bill. As a matter of fairness, of equity, and Do not be concerned therefore as to I think we may rest assured, in view of justice, the farmer of this country whether or not we have got the grain of the recent 2 to 1 vote by the Senate ought to have at least parity for every­ with which to do it. in favor of substantially this proposal, thing he has to sell. I cannot conceive A wrong impression may go out to the that that body, when it does complete ac­ why the Department of Agriculture or the farmers today on this thing, after. all the tion upon this portion of the agricultural administration would want to take any assurance we have given them concern­ appropriation bill, will have in the bill a action that would force the price of farm ing parity. If we are going to dip in provision which will be absolutely effec­ commodities anywhere below parity. with the right hand, under the direction tive. Even parity prices for farm products do adopted by this committee, to achieve What are the duties of the Commodity not mean parity income for the farmer, full parity, and ·then torpedo the price, Credit Corporation? because he does not raise cash crops on then we will have to reach down into Are you in favor of having the Corpo­ his retired acreage. It seems to me as a the sanie Treasury and get larger quanti­ ration discharge the duties which devolve matter of simple justice that we ought ties of funds with which to achieve that upon it? I read from the justifications: not to dump on the market any surplus same level. First, to protect and increase farm income; commodity that would force the price of second, to stabilize farm prices; third, to any farm product below parity. My notion is that the committee lan­ maintain an adequate reserve s~pply of farm guage ought to be supported and that we products. [Here the gavel fell.] ought to oppose the amendment offered The CHAffiMAN. All time has ex­ by the gentleman from Oregon [Mr. Do you think it is protecting and in­ pired. PIERCE]. creasing farm income to undertake to The question is on the amendment [Here the gavel fell.] manipulate the market as they admit offered by the gentleman from Oregon. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog­ they are undertaking to do to the dis­ The question was taken; and on a· di­ advantage of the farmer and for the vision (demanded by Mr. PIERCE) there nizes the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. purpose of depressing the value of farm TARVER]. were-ayes 47, noes 116. products? The question answers itself. Mr. O'BRIEN of Michigan and Mr. Mr. TARVER. Mr. Chairman, I have I am insisting, Mr. Chairman, that already addressed the Committee once on PIERCE' demanded tellers. fairness to the farmers of the country Tellers were refused. this subject matter. I do ·not propose and compliance with the promises made to consume very much of your time now. by Democrats ·and Republicans in their The Clerk read· as follows: I am somewhat amazed by the contra­ national platforms for 10 years requires Administrative expenses: Not to exceed dictory arguments which have been ad­ that we keep this limitation in the bill $775,000, in addition to the funds provided vanced by gentlemen supporting the and reject the Pierce amendment. bJ section 32 of the act entitled "An act to Pierce amendment, and who are in favor amend the Agricultural Adjustment Act, and [Here the gavel fell.] for other purposes," approved August 24, of striking this limitation out of the bill. The CHAIRMAN. Does any other 1935, as amended (7 U . 8. C. 612c), shall be On the one hand, they say it will be Member desire recognition on this p~ra­ available for administrative expenses in effective and will prevent certain con­ . graph? There are still 3 minutes re­ carrying out the provisions of said section sumer interests in this country from re­ maining. 32, as amended, and the Agricultur:il Mar­ ceiving at prices at which they ought to Mr. H. CARL .ANDERSEN. Mr. Chair­ keting Agreement Act of 1937, as amended be permitted to buy farm products owned (7 U. 8. C. 601 et seq.), including personal man, I wo'uld like to be recognized briefly. services in the District of Columbia. or controlled by the Government, and The CHAffiMAN. The gentleman which those consumers need. On the from Minnesota [Mr. H. CARL ANDERSEN] Mr. COLLINS. Mr. Chairman, I move other hand, they say that becaus~ it is is recognized. to strike out the last word. merely a limitation upon the expenditure Mr. H. CARL ANDERSEN. Mr.Chair­ Mr. Chairman, this subcommittee has of fund!;; by the Commodity Credit Cor­ man, I shall take but a minute to repeat heard considerable testimony on the gen­ poration, it will not be effective; it may · what I said the other day, that if you eral subject of rubber, a subject of inter.:. be evaded, and that therefore by adoption agree to this amendment you say to the est to every person in the country. of the limitation contained in the bill we farmer, in effect, that he is not entitled The position in which the Nation finds are telling the farmers of the country to more than 85 percent of parity on itself respecting supplies of rubber is one . that we are accomplishing something for wheat and corn. that hits every individual ot the Nation them when, as a matter of fact, we are I was astonished that three Members directlY. There are· more public an­ not. In other words, they say on the who are my friends and big cattle feeders nouncements and comments, more ·pub­ one hand that the proposal will work and or Representatives of such cattle-feeding licized regulations, and more stories, therefore it ought to be adopted. They districtS should rise in this Well today jokes, 13.nd cartoons on the subject of say on the other hand that the proposal and advocate that we not insist on parity rubber than on a.ny other strategic oom­ will not work, and therefore it ought not on corn and wheat. In other words, they modity today, Tbere are some important M e~opted. I am reminded, without in­ would have the corn and wheat farmer facts on the subj~ct tbp.t the Amerioan !.~pon tending to renect either Arizona-California; to the organization is rendering our people and Committee on Indian Affairs. to it and its membership should go the Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. Mr. 1478. A letter from the Secretary of War, highest respect of the American people. Speaker, my extension of remarks will transmitting a draft of a proposed bill to [Here the gavel fell.] run a little over the amount allowed provide for the decentralized settlement and Mr. BECKWORTH. · Mr. Speaker, I under the rule. I ask unanimous con­ payment of damage claims arising from activ­ ask unanimous consent that the gentle­ sent that it may be printed in the RECORD ities of the Army, other than in foreign coun­ notwithstanding that fact. tries; to the Committee on Claims. man be permitted to proceed for 5 addi­ 1479. A letter from the Secretary of War, tional minutes. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to transmitting a letter from the Chief of En­ The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gentlewoman from gineers, United States Army, dated Decem· the request of the gentleman from Massachusetts? ber 31, 1941, submitting a report, together Texas? '!'here was no objection, with accompanying papers on a survey of 2310 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE MARCH 12 the Palarm Creek in Faulkner and Pulaski Marys River from a point in or near the city By Mr. BISHOP: Counties, Ark.,· authorized by the Flood Con­ of Sault Ste. Marie, Mich., to a point in .the H. R. 6770. A bill to correct an error to con­ trol Act approved on August 28, 1937; to the Province of Ontario, Canada," approved De­ firm, as of March 2, 1861, the title to certain Committee on Flood Control. cember 16, 1940; without amendment (Rept. saline lands in Jackson County, State of 1480. A letter from the Secretary of War, No. 1890). Referred to the House Calendar. Illinois, to Edward Holden; to the Committee transmitting a letter from the Chief of En­ J_\fr . HALLECK: Committee on Interstate on the Public Lands. gineers, United States Army, dated Decem­ and Foreign Commerce. H. R. 6080. -A bill By Mr. ALLEN of Illinois: ber 24, 1941 , submitting a report, together authorizing the county of Lawrence, Ill., to H. R. 6771. A bill for the relief of Roy De­ with accompanying papers, on a preliminary construct, maintain, and operate a toll bridge lavergne; to the Committee on Claims. examination of the Hatchie River and trib­ across the Wabash River at or near St. Fran­ By Mr. GREEN: utaries, Mississippi and Tennessee, author­ cisville, IlL; without amendment (Rept. No. H. R. 6772. A bill for the relief of Mrs. Cora ized by the Flood Control Act approved on 1891). Referred to the House Calendar. B. Jones and James C. Jones; to the Com­ August 11, 1939; to the Committee on :F'lood Mr. YOUNGDAHL: Committee on Inter­ mittee on· Claims. Control. state and Foreign Commerce. H. R. 6495. A By Mr. KLEIN: 1481. A letter from the Secretary of War, bill granting the consent of Congress to the H. R. 6773. A bill for the relief of Jean transmitting a letter from the Chief of En­ State of Minnesota to construct, maintain, Rudnikoff Bloomstein; to the Commit tee on gineers, United States Army, dated January and operate a free highway bridge across the Immigration and Naturalization. l, 1942, submitting a report, together with Mississippi River at or near the village of H. R. 6774. A bill for the relief of Ruth accompanying papers, on a preliminary ex­ Brooklyn Center; with amendment (Rept. No. Rudnikoff Stotland; to the Committee on amination of Toro Negro River and .tribu­ 1892) . Referred to the House Calendar. Immigration and Naturalization. taries, Puerto Rico, authorized by the Flood Mr. BULWINKLE: Committee on ·Inter­ By Mrs. SMITH of Maine: Control Act approved on August 11, 1939; state and Foreign-commerce. H. R. 6730. · A H. R. 6775. A bill for the relief of Cornelia to the Committee on Flood Control. bill to protect the public health by the pre­ Hunton; to the Committee on Invalid Pen­ 1482. A communication from the President vention of certain practices leading to dental sions. of the United States, transmitting a defi­ disorders; and to prevent the circumvention ciency estimate of appropriation for the of certain State or Territorial laws regulating PETITIONS, ETC. Treasury Department for the· fiscal year 1941 the practice • of dentistry; without amend­ amounting to $30.412, and supplemental esti­ ment (Rept. No. 1893). Referred to the Com­ Under clause 1 of rule XXII, petitions mates of appropriations for the fiscal year mittee of the Whole House on the state of and papers were laid on the Clerk's desk 1942 amounting to $2,840.000, in all, $2 ,870,412 the Union. and referred as follows: (H. Doc. No. 662); to the Committee on 2550. By Mr. ANDERSON of California: Pe­ Appropriations and ordered to be printed. PUBLIC BILLS AND ,RESOLUTIONS 1483. A communication from the President tition of the Board of Supervisors of San of the United States, transmitting four sup­ Under clause 3 of rule XXII, public Benito County, Calif., urging the evacuation plemental estimates of appropriations for tne and concentration of all Japanese and their bills and resolutions were introduced and descendants to a concentration camp under Department of Agriculture for the fiscal year severally referred as follows: 1942, three totali:p.g $7,350,000 to remain avail­ supervision of the Federal· Government; to By Mr. PRIEST: the Committee on Immigration and Nat­ able until June 30, 1943, and one for $4,200,- H. R. 6765. A bill authorizing the President 000 to remain available until expended; in uralization. to require persons deferred under the Selec­ 2551. Fy Mr. BULWINKLE: Petition of sun­ all, $11 ,550,000 (H. Doc. No. 663); to the tive Training and Service Act of 1940 to r.-e.r­ Committee on Appropriations and ordered to dry citizens of Kings Mountain, Cleveland form civilian se:r;vice of importance to the· County, N. C., favoring Senate bill 860 or be printed. prosecution of the war; to the Committee on 1484. A communication from the President House bill 4000; to the Committee on Mili­ Military Affairs tary Affairs. of the United States, transmitting supple­ By Mr. CELLER: ~ental estimates of appropriations for the H. R. 6766. A bill to permit- officers of the Veterans' Administration for the fiscal year Army and Navy, commissioned since December 1942, amounting to $1,670,000 (H. Doc. No. 7, 1941, to continue to hold their civil offices 664); to the Committee on Appropriations while on active duty during the war; to the SENATE and ordered to be printed. Committee on Military Affairs. 1485. A communication from the President By Mr. PEARSON: THURSDAY, MARCH 12, 1942 of the United States, transmitting a draft H. R. 6767. A bill abolishing the Work Proj­ (Legislative day Thursday, March 5, of a proposed provision pertr.ining to an ects Administration; to the Committee on ot existing appropriation for the Department of Expenditures in the Executive Departments. 1942) Labor for the fiscal year 1942 (H. Doc. No. By Mr. LANDIS: · The Senate met at 12 o'clock noon, ·on 665); to the Committee on Appropriations H. R. 6768. A bill authorizing the President and ordered to be printed. to appoint persons to guard plants, material, the expiration of the recess. and utilities necessary to the prosecution of The Chaplain, the ·Very Reverend REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON PUBLIC the war; to the Committee on the Judiciary. Z~Barney T. Phillips, D. D., offered the BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS H. R. 6769. A bill to provide for the seizure following prayer: of ;nonessential aircraft, and for other pur­ Under clause 2 of rule XIII, reports of poses; to the Committee on Interstate and 0 Lord God, who art the Guide and committees were delivered to the Clerk Foreign Commerce. Leader of the generations of men, who for printing and reference to the proper By Mr. CARTWRIGHT: hast called us with our limitations to be calendar, as follows: H. R. 6776. A bill to authorize the purchase joyful inheritors of the wonder and glory of certain interests in lands and mineral of Thy Kingdom: We humbly acknowl­ 1\ll'_r. SANDERS: Committee on Interstate deposits by the United States from the Choc­ and Foreign Commerce. S. 1971. An act to edge our utter unworthiness of Thy mer­ taw and Chickasaw Nations of Indians; to the cies, and confess how little we have done legalize a bridge across Bayou Lafourche at Committee on Indian Affairs. Valentine, La.; without amendment (Rept. By Mr. GIBSON: to exalt in freedom and fullness the faith No. 1888) . Referred to the House Calendar. H. R. 6777. A bill to further protect the of our fathers, brought to us through so Mr. TENEROWICZ: Committee on Inter­ rights of individual employees under the Na­ many perils, purchased with such state and Foreign Commerce. S. 2133. An tional Labor Relations Act through denying sacrifice. act to revive and reenact the act entitled "An certain representatives and labor organiza­ Forgive us our long neglect of this our act granting the consent of Congress to the tions their status and benefits as such under bounden duty, our past unfaithfulness, State of Michigan to construct, maintain, the National Labor Relations Act; to the and operate a toll bridge. or series of bridges, our deafness to Thy call, with its conse­ Committee on Labor. quent neglect of opportunities. Give to causeways, and approaches thereto, across the By Mr. COLLINS: Straits of Mackinac at or near a point be­ H. Res .. 455. Resolution expressing the sense our Nation power to face with courage the tween St. Ignace, Mich., and the Lower Penin­ of the House of Representatives that there issues of this present time that she may sula of Michigan," approved September 25, should be a consolidation of Federal agencies go forth daringly, trusting in the leader­ 1940; without amendment (Rept. No. 1889). concerned with the production of natural ship Thou dost inspire, and, unfettered Referred to the House Calendar. and synthetic rubber; to the Committee on by the past, may one day bring the na­ Mr. TENEROWICZ: Committee on Inter­ Expenditures in the Executive Departments. state and Foreign Commerce. S. 2134. An tions of the world into that perfection act to revive and reenact the act entitled "An which is the Father's will. Through act authorizing the State of Michigan, acting PRIVATE BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. through the International Bridge Authority THE JOUR~AL of Michigan, to construct, maintain, and op­ Under clause 1 of rule XXII, private erate a toll bridge or series of bridges, cause­ bills and resolutions were introduced and On request of Mr. BARKLEY, and by ways, and approaches thereto, across the St. severally referred, as follows: unanimous consent, the reading of the