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S. HRG. 108–868 REVIEW OF DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE DETENTION AND INTERROGATION OPERATIONS HEARINGS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED EIGHTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION MAY 7, 11, 19; JULY 22; SEPTEMBER 9, 2004 Printed for the use of the Committee on Armed Services ( VerDate 11-SEP-98 10:27 Nov 08, 2005 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 6011 Sfmt 6011 96600.TXT SARMSER2 PsN: SARMSER2 REVIEW OF DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE DETENTION AND INTERROGATION OPERATIONS VerDate 11-SEP-98 10:27 Nov 08, 2005 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 6019 Sfmt 6019 96600.TXT SARMSER2 PsN: SARMSER2 S. HRG. 108–868 REVIEW OF DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE DETENTION AND INTERROGATION OPERATIONS HEARINGS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED EIGHTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION MAY 7, 11, 19; JULY 22; SEPTEMBER 9, 2004 Printed for the use of the Committee on Armed Services ( U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 96–600 PDF WASHINGTON : 2005 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512–1800; DC area (202) 512–1800 Fax: (202) 512–2250 Mail: Stop SSOP, Washington, DC 20402–0001 VerDate 11-SEP-98 10:27 Nov 08, 2005 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 96600.TXT SARMSER2 PsN: SARMSER2 COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES JOHN WARNER, Virginia, Chairman JOHN MCCAIN, Arizona CARL LEVIN, Michigan JAMES M. INHOFE, Oklahoma EDWARD M. KENNEDY, Massachusetts PAT ROBERTS, Kansas ROBERT C. BYRD, West Virginia WAYNE ALLARD, Colorado JOSEPH I. LIEBERMAN, Connecticut JEFF SESSIONS, Alabama JACK REED, Rhode Island SUSAN M. COLLINS, Maine DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii JOHN ENSIGN, Nevada BILL NELSON, Florida JAMES M. TALENT, Missouri E. BENJAMIN NELSON, Nebraska SAXBY CHAMBLISS, Georgia MARK DAYTON, Minnesota LINDSEY O. GRAHAM, South Carolina EVAN BAYH, Indiana ELIZABETH DOLE, North Carolina HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON, New York JOHN CORNYN, Texas MARK PRYOR, Arkansas JUDITH A. ANSLEY, Staff Director RICHARD D. DEBOBES, Democratic Staff Director (II) VerDate 11-SEP-98 10:27 Nov 08, 2005 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 0486 Sfmt 0486 96600.TXT SARMSER2 PsN: SARMSER2 C O N T E N T S CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF WITNESSES ALLEGATIONS OF MISTREATMENT OF IRAQI PRISONERS MAY 7, 2004 Page Rumsfeld, Hon. Donald H., Secretary of Defense ................................................. 5 Myers, Gen. Richard B., USAF, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff ........................ 11 Smith, Lt. Gen. Lance L., USAF, Deputy Commander, United States Central Command .............................................................................................................. 13 Brownlee, Hon. Les, Acting Secretary of the Army .............................................. 15 Schoomaker, Gen. Peter J., USA, Chief of Staff of the Army .............................. 16 ALLEGATIONS OF MISTREATMENT OF IRAQI PRISONERS MAY 11, 2004 Cambone, Hon. Stephen A., Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence .......... 96 Smith, Lt. Gen. Lance L., USAF, Deputy Commander, United States Central Command .............................................................................................................. 102 MG Antonio M. Taguba, USA, Deputy Commanding General for Support, Coalition Forces Land Component Command ................................................... 102 CONTINUE TO RECEIVE TESTIMONY ON ALLEGATIONS OF MISTREATMENT OF IRAQI PRISONERS MAY 11, 2004 Alexander, LTG Keith B., USA, Deputy Chief of Staff, G–2; Accompanied by MG Ronald L. Burgess, Jr., USA, Deputy Chief of Staff, J–2; and MG Thomas J. Romig, USA, Judge Advocate General ..................................... 391 ALLEGATIONS OF MISTREATMENT OF IRAQI PRISONERS MAY 19, 2004 Abizaid, GEN John P., USA, Commander, United States Central Command ... 565 Sanchez, LTG Ricardo S., USA, Commander, Multi-National Force—Iraq ........ 568 Miller, MG Geoffrey D., USA, Deputy Commander for Detainee Operations, Multi-National Force—Iraq ................................................................................. 574 Warren, COL Marc L., Staff Judge Advocate, CJTF–7 ........................................ 574 (III) VerDate 11-SEP-98 10:27 Nov 08, 2005 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 96600.TXT SARMSER2 PsN: SARMSER2 IV Page THE DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY INSPECTOR GENERAL REPORT ON DETENTION OPERATION DOCTRINE AND TRAINING JULY 22, 2004 Brownlee, Hon. Les, Acting Secretary of the Army; Accompanied by GEN Peter J. Schoomaker, USA, Chief of Staff of the Army; and LTG Paul T. Mikolashek, USA, Inspector General of the Army ....................................... 680 THE INVESTIGATION OF THE 205TH MILITARY INTELLIGENCE BRIGADE AT ABU GHRAIB PRISON, IRAQ SEPTEMBER 9, 2004 Kern, GEN Paul J., USA, Commanding General, United States Army Mate- riel Command; Accompanied by LTG Anthony R. Jones, USA, Deputy Com- manding General, Chief of Staff, United States Army Training and Doctrine Command; MG R. Steven Whitcomb, USA, Special Assistant to the Com- mander, United States Central Command; MG George R. Fay, USA, Deputy Commander, United States Army Intelligence and Security Command; and MG Antonio M. Taguba, USA, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs, Readiness, Training, and Mobilization ................................... 1049 THE REPORT OF THE INDEPENDENT PANEL TO REVIEW DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE DETENTION OPERATIONS SEPTEMBER 9, 2004 Schlesinger, Dr. James R., Chairman, Independent Panel to Review Depart- ment of Defense Detention Operations .............................................................. 1313 Brown, Dr. Harold, Member, Independent Panel to Review Department of Defense Detention Operations ............................................................................ 1317 VerDate 11-SEP-98 10:27 Nov 08, 2005 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00006 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 96600.TXT SARMSER2 PsN: SARMSER2 ALLEGATIONS OF MISTREATMENT OF IRAQI PRISONERS FRIDAY, MAY 7, 2004 U.S. SENATE, COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES, Washington, DC. The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 11:45 a.m. in room SD–106, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator John Warner (chairman) presiding. Committee members present: Senators Warner, McCain, Roberts, Allard, Sessions, Collins, Talent, Chambliss, Graham, Dole, Cornyn, Levin, Kennedy, Byrd, Lieberman, Reed, Akaka, Bill Nel- son, E. Benjamin Nelson, Dayton, Bayh, Clinton, and Pryor. Other Senators present: Senator Bill Frist. Committee staff members present: Judith A. Ansley, staff direc- tor; and Leah C. Brewer, nominations and hearings clerk. Majority staff members present: Charles W. Alsup, professional staff member; L. David Cherington, counsel; Regina A. Dubey, re- search assistant; Ambrose R. Hock, professional staff member; Thomas L. MacKenzie, professional staff member; Elaine A. McCusker, professional staff member; Lucian L. Niemeyer, profes- sional staff member; Paula J. Philbin, professional staff member; Lynn F. Rusten, professional staff member; Joseph T. Sixeas, pro- fessional staff member; Scott W. Stucky, general counsel; and Rich- ard F. Walsh, counsel. Minority staff members present: Richard D. DeBobes, Democratic staff director; Kenneth M. Crosswalt, professional staff member; Evelyn N. Farkas, professional staff member; Richard W. Field- house, professional staff member; Jeremy L. Hekhuis, professional staff member; Gerald J. Leeling, minority counsel; Peter K. Levine, minority counsel; Michael J. McCord, professional staff member; William G.P. Monahan, minority counsel; and Arun A. Seraphin, professional staff member. Staff assistants present: Michael N. Berger, Bridget Ward, Nich- olas W. West, and Pendred K. Wilson. Committee members’ assistants present: Cord Sterling and James B. Kadtke, assistants to Senator Warner; Christopher J. Paul, assistant to Senator McCain; Mark Powers, assistant to Sen- ator Inhofe; Darren M. Dick, assistant to Senator Roberts: Arch Galloway II, assistant to Senator Sessions; Derek J. Maurer, assist- ant to Senator Collins; Lindsey R. Neas, assistant to Senator Tal- ent; Clyde A. Taylor IV, assistant to Senator Chambliss; Aleix Jar- vis and Meredith Moseley, assistants to Senator Graham; Christine O. Hill, assistant to Senator Dole; Russell J. Thomasson, assistant (1) VerDate 11-SEP-98 10:27 Nov 08, 2005 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00007 Fmt 6633 Sfmt 6633 96600.TXT SARMSER2 PsN: SARMSER2 2 to Senator Cornyn; Sharon L. Waxman and Mieke Y. Eoyang, as- sistants to Senator Kennedy; Christina Evans and Erik Raven, as- sistants to Senator Byrd; Frederick M. Downey, assistant to Sen- ator Lieberman; Elizabeth King, assistant to Senator Reed; Davelyn Noelani Kalipi, assistant to Senator Akaka; William K. Sutey and Dan Shapiro, assistants to Senator Bill Nelson; Eric Pierce, assistant to Senator Ben Nelson; William Todd Houchins, assistant to Senator Dayton; Todd Rosenblum and Rashid Hallaway, assistants to Senator Bayh; Andrew Shapiro, assistant to Senator Clinton; and Terri Glaze, assistant to Senator Pryor. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JOHN WARNER, CHAIRMAN Chairman WARNER. The Committee on Armed Services meets today in the first of a series of hearings to receive testimony re- garding the mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners by some—I repeat, some—elements and certain personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States in violation of U.S. and international laws. Testifying before us today is the Secretary of Defense, the Honor- able Donald Rumsfeld. He is joined by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Richard Myers; Acting Secretary of