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is . this evidence. He interfering this . always in WEDNESDAY, August 14, 1861., . in case an extraordinary manner. haas ?? There In the absence of Mr. Martin to resume the plaintiff's district. Moss. been strong party feeling in the cross-examination of Mr. the   Mackenzie and Moss were on separate sides counsel called always. I gave my evidence at Numba. -   ' .^GEORGE ^UNDERWOOD   . . ' ??'?: ALLEY .Mackenzie was -not. there. Moss was then in

said I   Court, on the : but not Bench. was of . she By Mr. Darvall I aM a medical practitioner, removed   .' unsound mind, and be residing, at -Nowra. I remember about six ought to from the it district, as abeut was dangerous to let her be at months Henry Goddard coming . tome   ago large. her... I think Mr Elyard ou the Bench. his wife, -to endeavor to get protection for was In of not having the evideuce of two He said she was in the bush, and that he had consequence further magistraites, remanded could get pro- medical she was applied to the but not men, for     evidence. of He No sanity was tection for her. said she was out of her other evidence her Brown's   given except opinion. Ivan who mind, and might be lost and starved, but he did Dr y, first particularly he feared her violence.; The gave evidence the time at Nowra. deposed not unsound say she could complaint that '''generally, :also was not of mind, he   people made that .she .   and find .the firebrands, no evidence of insanity, allowance was in habit of going about with making for said her being a Afterwards, having and one man named Montgomery, he found savage. made further enquiry, he deposed that she- was her building a fire under his house. This letter of others after: usound mind. He had- not made sufficient was written by me and signed by she apprehended. were taken first proceedings enquiry in instance was No the to enable him to first give a correct opinion. I know the of Moss before that letter. I saw her in daughter not examine her by Nowra, Goddard. It is not generally known, in the the lock-up at but I did declined to interfere, and condition. first is I of neighborhood that she under Moss' special said police; the it was of protection. of the him but he I never heard a rumour

referred to the Deuch. I to referred theiur kind. and him uas Martin: have pi Biddulph   interfere, Cross-examined Mr. I Cj^wl on and told him to by a the woman who anything happend and that to midwifery diploma from the. College .of the if would hold him responsible. I was in the bush I Anglice Lying-in-Hospital. am not a member was written of the This letter was reuianded N.S.W. Medical. Board, and never applied after sheto Nowra. be. frain Number My own opinion was to I am- not a member of a College of was decidedly mind, and that Surgeons, but I served full period. that of unsound my I have been she large. I upwards years the   unsafe it was perfectly for her to be at of 20 in dis communicated especially trict, with the of reside my opinion to Moss, and exception two years. I to half a mile from Moss. I wrote this letter   Moss, who was Mayor then, and had been for more than two mouths. I got the signatures to the petition in two days, certainly more to Biddulph. I remember Goddard, his brother, not than a [Petition and a neighbor, tailor,. week. produced on a half sheet of named Kerr— a and a res tell tradesman— evidence- paper. I cannot whether when pectable presented giving, before Moss   the in the ' other half-leaf was attached. It was not case at Nowra. There was no clerk there, absent. torn in that I presented another petition as he was Their eviileuce was that they way. felt in to the late Mayor, but I do not think I procured danger, because she was in the bush,' and danger they fire. the names of I on this piece of were in of The husband inter-   any persons see fered for paper. [This -was another half-sheet with a her more than for himself, and spoke it.] number of names on But I presented it something about her having a knife, and said he with the petition, and the were would not stop in the house with her. He stated names got by my instructions. iu I had no interview with Moss with she had been Purramutta GuoLus a dangerous lunatic. It reference getting this petition, nor conver was said she stood on her daughter's to up hair, sation with him about it. He did not advise aud drove a stick down her throat, and had me to a petition. I will not swear I burned tho beds and bedding. I looked for her get up had not in a conversation with Moss about the propriety of once myself the bush, and saw her last Sunday swear, I iu getting this but if I had week a 'about half a mile up paper, to gunyah from any would rather swear I had not. I had habitation. Her daughter supplied her with not many that' food, the conversations with Moss about it ; I swear and daughter and husband were trying positively. I do not think I had more to induce her to come to . I think the than one conversation. lives miles order was then made by Biddulph and Moss for Brown two from Nowra. There is no police protection, constables her to be taken up. They were on the Bench the being scattered here and there. I.wrote to the when evidence was given. There were two Colonial Secretary 'about, the when I examinations.' .Brown the constable said she had woman got ill no redress from the Bench. I was about gone from her husband from fear of present treatment, to'' but. ten months ago, when the husband, applied the there was no evidence but on the. contrary, Bench at. Nowra for protection for his wife. The that he treated her kindly. Brown volunteered he received this evidence. He is always in this answer was "I know nothing about

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  do answer he received was "I know nothing about cause conversation Moss. Tho writing wife, any with your go about your business." I never said from is on the of,this Moss'. I did not see him to Brown' after seeing her there was nothing the back write it. instructions Mr. JIoss wrote to matter with her, but I said she was as mad as a (Tho the after the - I March hare. an bible in constable about looking woman.) She had English her ,   two went in together hand, turned upside down, and was gabbling. I am sure these papers is letter Moss showed me he from did not have conversation with Moss before This a got effect   giving the clerk at Windsor. (Letter read to .my evidence. After giving my evidence that she was committed as a dangerous lunatic on Brown did not say "Doctor, you have soon altered till the 10th October, 1857, by the Bench at Windsor.) your opinion." From Nov. 1859 the publication publication of the of the libel I scarcely exchanged words with From November, 1859, to the   letter written by to Berry, Moss Moss, but when the libel was published I said Mackenzie Mr. contrary friends - on the and were not to him I will step forward and assist you, as I myself   enemies— but seeing endeavour to considered it was an atrocious a tempt to crush the oppress him, rendered assistance.   him. I evidence about the woman at the I my gave got sheet con- the Judge: I this Numba Court. I was there on behalf of the By paper (half

That taining signatures to petition) from Goddard or husband. Moss did hot ask 'me to go. was  

when Richards conducted the proceedings. I had

no interview with Richards as to. the. evidence I

getting ... would give, nor did I tell Mr. Moss.In  

considered the fact the petition to Bench, I up the daughter. cannot   iii' positively of a woman being the bush for months a dis- his I say whether I it district, had in possession before. I this (one grace to the and a reproach to justice and my gave of tho half-sheets)   humanity. Busfield is a miller, and lives in to tho daughter to get signed; there   Park-street. He had the' steam mill at Nowra. was more paper with it.

arson," the woman The words was convicted of   By Mr. Martin: I have the letter from Dr. are in the petition from Brown having stated she Campbell. [Letter put in and read to the effect in the that was prison for arson. I wrote to Clerk of no person of the name of Goddard had been in it, it.   the Bench at Windsor about- and found that the asylum for the 13 Dr. Campbell had superintendent.] years   was Mr. .Moss did not tell me been not true. she had       been arson. convicted on   wrote   of I the 17th letter from tho gaol [A at Parramatta was put May, also, to Dr. Campbell at Tarban Creek, rela in it in and read, which was stated that the wo- there. tive to the woman having been I had no man had been sent to Turban Creek from that it, William, Mr.' it but Sir. conversation with Moss about and was gaol Maiming explained that   him; receive not done in concert with but I advised him Campbell refused her.]   to write to the Clerk of the Bench at Windsor, as HENRY MOSS: I thought' that in his oflicial capacity he could Cross-examination resumed hy Mr. Martin: I write better than I could, in order to arrive at the did not after employ Richards, or ask him to to the truth. This petition was I think go got up gave my had conversation Court.I I some   evidence at Numba. I moved in the matter in with him in reference the neglected to woman, who I said must of the having brought consequence magistrates told be I him husband their duty. Mr. Moss showed me the letter he up, and her was   .Bench, at going to retain him. I received went to Namba object had from . the Clerk of the to to their proceedings, it Windsor, 'and I showed him .the letter I got from   as a ratepayer, thinking custody about was duty to protest, against the Dr. Campbell. The woman was my woman being in jurisdiction   removed out my mayor. I a during as month these examinations, and was con of a   stated opinions I had always fined in the lock-up, which was not a com mantained, that very this ill woman was of fortable place. I have no feeling towards unsound mind, and I thought it listen duty to to what was I and never accused him with letting a my going on. Brown, it thought duty to questions if I murderer escape, and never apologised ,to him for my suggest choosed, I frequently it. having made. such imputation. I said this: I have done This letter to the constable about the woman was written on made use of' the words; Mr. Mackenzie suggested the of the it if evening day I was sworn in, the an apology and Brown said he would accept to best of belief. I retracted, item by item, what I had in the my Goddard had 110 conversation put about Mercury. before that wife's state this: event with I said he had never done his me his of mind. After receiving the petition I did I so still: a worse constable I never not duty, and it the next say meeting the bench, life. present at because saw in I intend to him removed, of   my have I started received   the day beforeI to play and I am in the matter now, and have in a work for cricket getting ground match at Kiama. On the day I returned been for nine months the I received the letter from the Attorney-General, removing him.     it,

taken   and then thought Darvall duty not to fur- Mr. take By interest my in any I have an   in ther steps the matter. I never had it in public matters for without consulting my twenty years pocket at have of the these proceedings   meeting bench. After I I any re- done all in it, anyone. be- ceived and before of the   meeting bench, I   any it do so, cause I have thought right to and not ; the letter the conversation got from Attorney-General. I with Moss. was

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; the letter got from the Attorney-General. I 1 was w.ts charged with, This happened 13 years not at Nowra bet ween- the reception of the pc-tit ago. A constable swore I wanted him to do tion the letter and from tho Attorney-General. I in. something. Two letters of :mino were- put cannot whether the petition in say was the tame (One letter read, in which Moss solicited .'soine state as. now, when ! received it. I think both friend to a subscription for Smart; a get . con pieces up formed one sheet ; I then but now look at stable who had distinguished himself by his active it could them, not have been so, I do not recol endeavors to apprehend a man charged with lect it receiving a- ion before pet this one. By the burning Moss'js father's barns, &c.) Smart in pin holes in M10 picce of I this 7 paper, think was duced me to write mat : letter,' [Sir William attached to the other piece of I did paper. not .Manning said there was a charge of 'arson for petition till it she the was presented to 1110, and which a was then liable to transportation till person knew it 'J nothing about I received a letter from life. for hat was defeated. JIoss was tried Dr. Alley wishing to know where I would receive if .'had for subornation of perjurj ; but the perjury the deputation. I did not ask life, Alley or Richards .Sii cjeded, the man would liavo been tried j'or to get such a petition The people who, signed ; up and he (who then acted as Judge) was inCiienced it resided in' ' at Nowra. I never this saw paper in passing sentence on JIoss, by tho consideration'' the hands of Goddard's daughter, at time, I any ?that a man, through whose perjury another might told Brown, not lo remove the life, her from JIuuici have' been transported for deserved trans pality. there because was great dissatisfaction that life portation himself,] I know my was sworn ; cases originating in .'betaken should ? Nowra to .that timet. lias ? .away, at Mackenzie nKvays op- this Numba. I wrote letter iu of is 110' consequence posed /me in political matters $ but there leaving for Kiama. I was never at the my hut personal misunderstanding between us that I occupied by Goddard -while he lived there. I know of Some years ago hc-sigucd- a, petition to : was 011 tho most distant terms with liim. Tho the Governor for a commutation of sentence, girl .niy has never been in in the my bedipom night which was headed by .i large- number- of naijies. or early in the nor in ? morning, room alone It of fojfiu. ; ] any .was a ine^e matter .,. with me, except one occasion, when, 011 her com Sir W. Manning 'j One witness- was nnder 1 ing to the store, I might have been alone with By committal for. perjury,, and his liberty depended: her. I never sat 011 the sufa with her, with my on conviction; That is the man- who has arm neck, round her and one of her legs over my [ since been hanged. His name was Barber.: mine. In September '59 she never sat 011 niy police bed Smart -has been dismissed from tho forco, with me, with my arm round her. waist, nor lias his situation and the chief constable lost long . did I pull down the blinds and shut the door. I

' since. Another witness, a publican, was killed by ? never made use of indecent expressions about liiim . .rJIy fatlier publican.' a dray going over .was a her; nor did I iu January last lie . 011 the ^ grass near Yass. was charged with setting behind Hyam's store and have connection with Mackay lire father's place. told her, in 'GO. to This Barber uiej nor April The mother never my 1 he had- 'heard a ; coiiversal;oiv'liet.ween -two men threatened me for going with her daughter. I ?who fire to the stack,*: and ? through the evi never at. her father's hut'offercd set her mo.ney to go of parties committed for to bed with Iler dence I got, Barber, was me, mother never said to me,

- interestuti. niuiseii b ? perjury, 1111a tlien Giuart, wno you —y'Mtms^ you- have been with my I- stick ill iu the 1110 to write a letter to his friends daughter, you. I was sworn linder a case, got subscription for liim ; commission sent to Aldcorn. I to raise a and they .were I James deny that nil the imputations set forth iii the libel. (Mr. made «se of as tending to show I wanted to this -party. ; I know who brought JIartin here' referred to the letter sent hy JIac suborn do uot in tho against. 1110-:; -Mackay. and Pod.nore kenzie to Berry, which n'as a passage' to the charge -..-I effect, -tliat witnesses:- was educated at. the the . were Sydney magistrates hud made up their ,1 ' miiids College. was a tickct-of-leavo holder in the not to set with a man who had been a

district. ? I. the' ticket-of-leave perjured convict, which witness eaid referred -to Shoalhaven got liim.) .about two and six months:! alter com JIany years ago I was unfortunately' years -my ' [ mittal. 1 .resided Slioalliaven. since. obliged to succumb to the laws ot the country, have at ever jurisdiction but life 1 was about- ninemonths under the of my was sworn away. . Robert Lowe ap

JIackenzie..: No , charge has ever been brought peared for. me; one man who gaye evidence by- against me was under committal for perjury. He :ugaiii3t-iiie ssnce. I have heen.employed niy last .brother-in-law. b^ven in was' hanged when I heard of him.- He was JIackenzie has the dis : is tried for but tnct since I have been there. This, the -letter not perjury, got his liberty on my downfall, Lowe would iiot call witnesses for the 1 had lrom the Attorney. General. [Letter read :; ,t. defence. which asked Moss to make a-emarks on lie-charges I was ^sentenced to 7 years transporta ' tion. I do not remember the observations of- the conveyed: 111 Mackenzie's letter to Berry.] I the tiihe. I 'wiis received this document subsequent to this petition. Judge at then about 17 years | old. sis 111 ; it was signed nine Five or witnesses appeared against me, [Document put by persons, relerred signed r and to another petition by twent;. , .one named Monarch7, had- been previously con- ]

' : ?'. ? lour.] - victed, The sentence was committed to five years afterwards. It was subornation of perjury 1 w.ts with, This 13 the.. I receivod- these, two

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the.. believe the for of By- Judge:: I receivod- these, two pnpers woman was discharged want evidence. I containing, tho p'utition at the same time. medical never- beard JIackenzie lie By Sir W. Jlanning : 1 ceased to bo under the asked whether would be examined about the control tho policc woman's sanity. He spoke to me about the of about 17 years, ago. .. 'A after, before the letter, ur.d after was month or six weeks7 Jlackcnzio sigrted the woman she nppre petition for pardoffc liended, and during the and my free examinations remands Jlr.- Isaiics : I asked Jloss come the 'Bench; By The petition was for a free at Nnmba, to to

pardon. ? because he was the closest magistrate to me,

' J01JN. lUIiDUI.T'II. mtNTiY goddaisd:

: : By Jlr. Darvall 1 am a Justice of the Pcnce, By Sir Win. : Jlanning I was a whaler for and '-reside at Shoalhaven. I remember Dr. merly, and married at the Sandwich Islands 22 I six Alley calling .011 1110 with reference to that, years ago. I came to this colony about years woman. I afterwords'- communicated to Moss ago, 1 resided in Sydney about one month. I befoi;e left; what A'ey told nnj she was apprehended. my wife aud 'daughter at niy sisters, and I, I told him that the doctor ?represented that as went to the Hawkesbury, where 1 lived with my interfere,, sistci. a magistrate, ought to us a woman After living with her some time, I sailed being si lunatic was at large, eudungei;irig her a small vessel from the Hawkesbury to Sydney life, anil back. own and a nuisance to other people, nnd that I took my wife and daughter on it was discreditable to. the district to let her roam board at Sj'dney, and sailed for the- Ha-wkeshnry. about in the bu?h,. 1 asked, him if he would Oil a Sunday. ;she jumped .overboard; at 10 lit, come tho Cou.it, did o'cb ck, the mouth of the .lLawkesbury... i aiul up next morning to r and he conducts,, the overboard aijd There was an enquiry into this woman's my daughter pushed boat for her. her. was and a warrant was issued apprehension. saved -She -always wandering away, iii' I Siit and would not stop at and slept I afterwards in her case, once Nowra and home, away. iu took her to the Windsor Bench because slie would once Numba. When A'ey called upon me, for thirteen days. We had Moss had said nothing, at all about the woman. not eat anything to , ' to foot foot take Wha'tT did afterwards was from 110 suggestion' bf bind her hand hand and to to

| his, her there, and she.wus sent to gaol and then to but on my own judgment. I saw-, her when

: tfarramutta Gaol. three weeks in She , she Wiis. brought lip, ami from her manner, and was

: Windsor Gaol. She was before two doctors and what 1 ki:ew before, I should say she was. insane. I iivlivaAions four magistrates, observed 110 particular of insanity who sent her to Parrainntta five months. I after about her then, but she seemed not to lyidw. what Gaol, where she remained !..-en living- anil with me was going on. I believe she 1ms in wards went to Shoalhaven, took her right, the bush since, nnd not with her husband. I am from Parramutta, though she was not then existing though better. I lived with brother four or not aware of any improper intimacy, my five to'live of between JIoss aud this girl, mul never heard months, and then went at the back it. the 'anybody' stato I should think there was Hyam's, She was always going about bush, stop7 arid personal feeling' between. JIackenzie and JIo?p and would away three or four days, my ! follow her' victuals. [Petition was here read, that JIoss- having sa-v.i daughter used to about with life worse; the the of u soldier nt Cockatoo, had- been strongly Latterly she got She burnt two beds five dresses our recommended for a free pardon. This had. been and belonging to daughter, and herself with. signed hv JIackenzie, and was- dated July 8th, took a knife aud an axe to cut She first 1S53. threw, the axe at ray head. The complaint said Jrr. Isaacs : first Goddard I made about her was to who By I . saw 'Mrs. Graham, about a week, before the warrant was granted. 'What, have I got to do with your wife? Go I liavj heard she has been discharged twice when -about. .your; business;';'. Mackenzie then gave m'e

first the constable, . brought before the Bench ; that was the a note to Ross and he.teok her up. I JIoss I This was a before I spoko to Moss. I think time spoke to upon the subject, when year asked him to attend the Court. I live about 1J JIackenzie heard me talk to, Graham, and then miles from Nowra, and have been at JIoss' gave me a note. She was put into the Numba girl Jlacr frequently. I do not- recollect seeing the 011 .lock-up, I attended the Court, and found his I kenzic waiting for another magistrate, and then premises, do not know of any circumstance, Grahaiii '-' I called in that would lead to ill-will between Jlackeiizic came, When was JIackenzie said y-jas niad. I. said and JIoss. I am personally acquainted with she not I thought she wit's/ lie if JIackenzie, and do not recollect liim saying he and asked me I had another woman to ill place,. told had. feeling against JIoss. put in her I , him 110, and never discharged. By Jlr. Darvall : I do not recollect JIackenzie thought of sech a thing. She was JIoss I told afraid talking to me aborit JIoss assuming the precedency When I 'went to liim I was to in the'-house liter, a knife on the Bench. When under examination the stop with as she had her, and out of her mind. woman did not seem to understand what was concealed about was He a noto to Greev.es the constable, going on, I never- lieanl her speak any English gave ine words., Tho conduct of Moss.since I have known who apprehended her ou a Sunday morning, when;

; followed- the lock-up. him has been that of an upright individual. I she him and mo to She I.)r. lier, believe the woman was discharged for want of cannot speak English. Ivamy examined

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I inn the cannot speak English. I.)r. Ivamy examined lier, daughter of the last witness.. Before1 riiy mother and she was disuliarged. SI10 was afterwards was taken l into custody she yriied ph^lies, and beat apprehended and taken:, to Nowra, anil was re my me for spilling flo(ri\ some water: 011 thy. moved to the Nuriiba lockMip. She was kept Hyam and n,nd, I another man earner assisted 111c. to there 'about 22 'days j . JIoss was then up the used feed her in tho bush'.; She. lias been there country. I told .the magistrates wife-had her two or my three lias months. JIoss never taken liberties daughter down on the ground, with her foot on with 1119. It has not been talked of there. her hair, aiid that slid tried to ram a stick down down liiui, I He has never asked me to get into the girl's throat. I am certain she is not iu her bed with | liberties'. I nor given 111c to allow him to right mind.' One of- lier brothers was mad. money take Jly father [ ill-treated different was kind to mother^ never wife; She was in my ^nd never my treated badly./ J 1 I- first her. tier conduct when married her. ! . My

; Jlr; :: ; I'y Isaacs daughter is ,15. She never in Hyam's Mosan'ever came to father's , was my house. I used to l place employment but for a few -hours. Mrs. Ilyam go to lyam's once a week j to work and saw JIoss kept7 hci\ sometimes to the JIo=s sometimes there. I was sweep rooms, i in 'different never Moss's house, nor in his and Ilyam lived on sides of the road. bedroom, nor in the iu garden. next room,. :I nevyr sat on the sofa bis She was sometimes employed Hyam's I by side. if JIoss I do not there is 11 I never saw improper intimacy between know sofa there. JIoss of never had his arms waist, lie and my daughter, and I never heard any wmj my never kissed me. 'I know Mrs. Collins, but I thing wrong. I never saw anything that excited told her kissed suspicions. I 11'ever knew JIoss to speak to never he me, or- pulled me about. my ' l*i',clc I, never- Viis- iu. tlie the her in a free or indelicate -way. gacdeiion ground -- with JIoss. He 1 By Mr. Isaacs.: L had \xo quarrel when my never gave me money. used the wife jumped overboard. I employed Richards to gQ. to Wesleynn Church in Shoalhaven, half 11 mile from our place. Jlr. Somei ville is the and agreed to pay liim a guinea, but I have not minister. I have been to the school there. yet paid. That was at Nnmba the second time. Sunday Soniervillc is. JIoss did no.t suggest I should get Richards to gone away. I have not been to church since ho went I do go' appear. My daughter was at Numba then. away. not now be because we live so far There is ii' Catholic Brown did not say my daughter ought to away./ I. in chapel near 11s, I do not there. I called in and oxamined. never was lying my go remember offered mother burning clothes foi,- nothing. Iha.l bed -when Moss came in and not seeing me my in y a leather giveir me by Miss liyum. JIoss did to give daughter money to go to bed with him. not my it ^ give to me. I ''never told Juliette I never said that to Jlrs. Collins, nor when she Smith ni that I strike or body he did. mother did not she asked me why did not get up and him nny My say frocks burnt bccanse Moss 111 1;. put liim out of the house, that I did not care my gave them to I remember living the what happened if the girl had not a child. When nt Hawkesbury, Jly little ;\11 wife into the bush, father had a repel. We. went with him. discharged from my went and Collins... I went with him (o Windsor, arid the same night wentto Mrs. and remained with my mother to Parramatta gaol. Shu there six with her two nights. The third 'night .she got up was months.

told Jly father told 1110 so a long , and' went into the bush, .so Mrs. Collins me. time ago. My mother v/as once tint uf . nearly I called there and saw:m'y wife, but did not quar drowned at head j to strike the I father rel with her then, or strike or attempt Hawkesbury V'ver. and mjr went after 1*11 boat. a She could swim. She had 110 quarrel with. father, and he beat lier. I' my never her,. did not Jfrs. say to Collins when she She asked liim for 11 of tobacco, j p'pe and when asked w.hy l wanted to strike her, it for it was some he gave to her she said gooiUbj-eall p,nd ?thing she jumped said to 1110. I never ill-treated in her at overboard. She has been the bush ever since I Thomas G.oddaid a. never seized her there she the lock-up, hy came from Numba 1 picked up tho hair ot the head and drag her and kick her the knife she was going to cut her thyoafc Yrith. I I, ()P '? 1,0t l'emeniber JIoss being lifid with my daughter have never improper connection with Moss. I when anil wile were quarrelling, Jlr., my and I ? By Darvall j Jly. mother cannot speak threw a litiv I I bucket of water over ; charged her English sometimes she speaks sensibly to nig, ?at Windsor with being a lunatic. The Bench and' foolishly; did sometimes very in our native not. ' direct 1110 to take I five : her invay. went or tongue. . six times to Purramatta to see her. A tlio Jlrs.. good Bjr Judge: Collins came to our house, times I did see her. I miuiy not was living flour, at drunk, to borrow some and to hjive a ? Shoalhaven then. Jly did telfmu yarn, daughter not 1 hti}.- and to kick up a row. liavo see? drunk her mother burnt dresses, tliev her because were times going- past our place. ? given to her JIoss. I many . by have as much affection ' lier I TIIOM.Ui : for - now as have always had. I have lived GOBD.UiD with her 22 and had four children her. Sir W. Jlanning: I the years by By am brother . of Jly is daughter the youngest. Henry .Goddard...- ;JIrs. Goddard-lived at riiy place some three months. I took her to' be deranged. I.0V1SA, GODDAnD-: She used unlawful, ^oapoiis-r^-uxes and -knives — Sir Win,. I inn the to tlio 1,-pf.p By Manning: daughter of family oLuiit tlio placo ? I--vouIill n nf,

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to tlio 1,-pf.p family oLuiit tlio placo ? I--vouIill n nf, Jlr. Em-ight had evidently made tho capture without her -longer.': ''People, did 'not' irritate- her. I any the remotest knowledge oftho personal appearanco Tier in is always saw the same statfl— 3 kind of de of Cameron, of tho oht leaguo. This person des six feet in of powerful ranged mind, I went before Biddulph and cribed as being about height, high cheek build, whiskers and beard , Grab nm to give information lier state. sandy bushy about I .Scotch accent. bones and with a very lu-oad said in fires speaks she was paddock, making near is five tuot two or my my Tlie young man approhuiulud about stacks, fires speaks wheat She wiis-niuking in different three inchcs in height, rattier dark hair, is build, places, did a and of a slight and not seem to know what she was without strong accent, — It is quite dangerous now-a-days to be a Camel-on. doing. She was. in the paddock in tlie day making Yass Courier. fires, lioipe. and would not 1 never saw go — tender any Agoeptkd TiiNnmi. Tim undormontioncd for lier cause leaving her state of tiie : — John homo except has been .accepted by govci uinont Mr. Itiver. mind, Her husband always behave4 well to her. White, for the improvement of the Mornya hjirj I'ost-ofiiee has boen established at Piney By Jlr. Isaacs: I never saw dragging her A New the' between Ten Mile Crook and Urana. about by hair of the head, and I never said so Range, before Biddulph awl Cfj-aham j but that they had and constant rows. My evidence was taken down in ?Printed and published for tho proprietors, John' writing. I never saw my brother throw his wife Thomas Gaiuihtt, by the said Thomas Gaiuiett, Letter over the fence, and I never tohl Brown the ut 'Tim IMjAwaiiua Miuicuui'' General

constable that I wondered in OfTicc, corner of the Morkot every bone her body press Printing - J- the girl, 011 Tuesday, was not smashed; never saw misbehave sumiro, Wollongong, llhiwana, in my place. August 20, I SOI. Sir By W. Jlanning: I never heard Mrs. Goddard speak English, properly. I never heard of any improper intimacy between Moss and the girl, and I never saw' anything. When Brown said at the Court I could give evidence about the -did woman's treatment, I said I not come there for that purpose.

(To be concluded in ojir ne$t.)

Ai'i'REiiexsiox ok a Suspected UioTitit.— On Frid y nftornoon last the chicf constable received informa tion that 11 pel-sou named Cupi.cron, wbo had just comc from J^irilung Flat, was stopped citlior at illr. Scan's inn. ot North Yass, or at l\tr. Alt's, at Jones' Cicek, and suspccted that ho was the Donald Cam eron who bas made himself coiispieiious at Jini rnn, gong, proceeded to tljo places named for the purpose of apprehending bim. On eqniry he found that a person named Canic.ren, and who had been at tho Flat, had been stopping at both places, but had left for Blaekney's Creek, with intention of prospecting there. Mi'. lCnright, in company with an ordinary constable, thereforo, proceeded to that place, and haying found the porson ho wanted encamped near a liim small settler's on.one of the ranges, apprehended ?' oarly next morning as Can.cron thu rioter.' lioth tlio prisoner and his mate (who is well known in ? Yass) stated that there is some mistake, as not only tlie was the prisoner not man who was wanted, but did not resemble him in any particular. Of course the chief constable paid no regard to such statements, and ill marched-his prisoner to town and confined him the lock-up. It was soon noised abroad that Cameron it of IJarraiigong notoriety was iu safe custody, but when it was ascertained that no one had identified tho prisoner as tint person, the people began to -1 still — tlie his m grow sceptic prisoner and ite per sisted that tho police wuro wrong, and that f'anieri'n was a man ol' far diiVere.it stature and build. Jlr. lying ot' tho Oriental Bank, and constable Wat-ion to is both of whom the person of Mr, Donald Cameron familiar, were rr,|i!.'-t,-(l to see the piisonor and say whether he was the Fl it agitator or not. On the par lies being confronted witli each otliea, both Jlr. King and Watson stated not only that tlie prisoner in was not the man, out was as dissimilar appearance from him as liossibtv could be imagined. In order

titer inconvenience as possible from the zeal and mis take of tho chief constable, llr. lilako and Laidlaw attoniled tho conrtand d isohargcil him from custody* Jlr. Em-ight had evidently made tho capture without

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