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H.R. 5780, TO PROVIDE GREATER CONSERVATION, RECREATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND LOCAL MANAGEMENT OF FEDERAL LANDS IN UTAH, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES, ‘‘UTAH PUBLIC LANDS INITIATIVE ACT’’ LEGISLATIVE HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON FEDERAL LANDS OF THE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED FOURTEENTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION Wednesday, September 14, 2016 Serial No. 114–51 Printed for the use of the Committee on Natural Resources ( Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.fdsys.gov or Committee address: http://naturalresources.house.gov U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 21–547 PDF WASHINGTON : 2016 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Publishing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512–1800; DC area (202) 512–1800 Fax: (202) 512–2104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402–0001 VerDate Mar 15 2010 14:41 Dec 21, 2016 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 J:\114TH CONGRESS\FEDERAL LANDS\09-14-16\21547.TXT DARLEN COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES ROB BISHOP, UT, Chairman RAU´ L M. GRIJALVA, AZ, Ranking Democratic Member Don Young, AK Grace F. Napolitano, CA Louie Gohmert, TX Madeleine Z. Bordallo, GU Doug Lamborn, CO Jim Costa, CA Robert J. Wittman, VA Gregorio Kilili Camacho Sablan, CNMI John Fleming, LA Niki Tsongas, MA Tom McClintock, CA Pedro R. Pierluisi, PR Glenn Thompson, PA Jared Huffman, CA Cynthia M. Lummis, WY Raul Ruiz, CA Dan Benishek, MI Alan S. Lowenthal, CA Jeff Duncan, SC Donald S. Beyer, Jr., VA Paul A. Gosar, AZ Norma J. Torres, CA Rau´ l R. Labrador, ID Debbie Dingell, MI Doug LaMalfa, CA Ruben Gallego, AZ Jeff Denham, CA Lois Capps, CA Paul Cook, CA Jared Polis, CO Bruce Westerman, AR Wm. Lacy Clay, MO Garret Graves, LA Vacancy Dan Newhouse, WA Ryan K. Zinke, MT Jody B. Hice, GA Aumua Amata Coleman Radewagen, AS Thomas MacArthur, NJ Alexander X. Mooney, WV Cresent Hardy, NV Darin LaHood, IL Jason Knox, Chief of Staff Lisa Pittman, Chief Counsel David Watkins, Democratic Staff Director Sarah Lim, Democratic Chief Counsel SUBCOMMITTEE ON FEDERAL LANDS TOM MCCLINTOCK, CA, Chairman NIKI TSONGAS, MA, Ranking Democratic Member Don Young, AK Donald S. Beyer, Jr., VA Louie Gohmert, TX Pedro R. Pierluisi, PR Glenn Thompson, PA Jared Huffman, CA Cynthia M. Lummis, WY Alan S. Lowenthal, CA Rau´ l R. Labrador, ID Debbie Dingell, MI Doug LaMalfa, CA Lois Capps, CA Bruce Westerman, AR Jared Polis, CO Dan Newhouse, WA Vacancy Ryan K. Zinke, MT Vacancy Jody B. Hice, GA Vacancy Thomas MacArthur, NJ Vacancy Cresent Hardy, NV Rau´ l M. Grijalva, AZ, ex officio Darin LaHood, IL Rob Bishop, UT, ex officio (II) VerDate Mar 15 2010 14:41 Dec 21, 2016 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 J:\114TH CONGRESS\FEDERAL LANDS\09-14-16\21547.TXT DARLEN CONTENTS Page Hearing held on Wednesday, September 14, 2016 ................................................ 1 Statement of Members: Bishop, Hon. Rob, a Representative in Congress from the State of Utah ... 9 Chaffetz, Hon. Jason, a Representative in Congress from the State of Utah ............................................................................................................... 14 Grijalva, Hon. Rau´ l M., a Representative in Congress from the State of Arizona ...................................................................................................... 7 Prepared statement of ............................................................................... 8 McClintock, Hon. Tom, a Representative in Congress from the State of California ................................................................................................... 1 Prepared statement of ............................................................................... 3 Tsongas, Hon. Niki, a Representative in Congress from the State of Massachusetts ............................................................................................... 4 Prepared statement of ............................................................................... 6 Statement of Witnesses: Benally, Rebecca, Commissioner, San Juan County, Monticello, Utah ....... 16 Prepared statement of ............................................................................... 18 Koontz, Clif, Executive Director, Ride with Respect, Moab, Utah ............... 42 Prepared statement of ............................................................................... 43 Kornze, Neil, Director, Bureau of Land Management, U.S. Department of the Interior, Washington, DC .................................................................. 19 Prepared statement of ............................................................................... 20 Questions submitted for the record ......................................................... 29 Lopez-Whiteskunk, Regina, Co-Chairwoman, Bears Ears Inter-Tribal Coalition, Towaoc, Colorado ......................................................................... 35 Prepared statement of ............................................................................... 36 Ure, Dave, Director, Utah School and Institutional Trust Lands Adminis- tration, Salt Lake City, Utah ....................................................................... 38 Prepared statement of ............................................................................... 40 Weldon, Leslie, Deputy Chief, National Forest System, U.S. Department of Agriculture, Washington, DC ................................................................... 30 Prepared statement of ............................................................................... 31 Additional Materials Submitted for the Record: Access Fund & Outdoor Alliance, Prepared statement of ............................. 85 Carbon County Board of County Commissioners, July 13, 2016 Letter to Congress .................................................................................................... 46 Deseret News, August 26, 2016 Article, Amy Joi O’Donoghue, Big money, environmentalists and the Bears Ears story .............................................. 10 Emery County Board of Commissioners, Letter to Rep. Chaffetz ................ 47 Enefit American Oil, September 15, 2016 Letter to Chairman McClintock 88 Friends of Cedar Mesa, July 19, 2016 Letter to Reps. Bishop and Chaffetz .......................................................................................................... 73 Friends of Cedar Mesa, Prepared statement of ............................................. 89 Grand County Council, August 16, 2016 Letter to Reps. Bishop and Chaffetz .......................................................................................................... 75 List of documents submitted for the record retained in the Committee’s official files .................................................................................................... 111 Madsen, Hilda, et al., Prepared statement of ................................................ 94 National Parks Conservation Association, September 12, 2016 Letter to Natural Resources Committee ..................................................................... 65 National Trust for Historic Preservation, Prepared statement of ................ 68 (III) VerDate Mar 15 2010 14:41 Dec 21, 2016 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 J:\114TH CONGRESS\FEDERAL LANDS\09-14-16\21547.TXT DARLEN IV Page Additional Materials Submitted for the Record—Continued Natural Resources Defense Council, Sierra Club, & Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance, September 14, 2016 Letter to Reps. McClintock and Tsongas ................................................................................................... 98 Navajo Nation, Russell Begaye, President, Prepared statement of ............. 99 Outdoor Industry Association, Prepared statement of .................................. 70 Pew Charitable Trust, Prepared statement of ............................................... 100 San Juan County Commission, May 3, 2016 Letter to President Obama ... 47 Savory Institute, Testimony given at September 13, 2016 Hearing of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Subcommittee on the Interior ............................................................................................... 77 Schwartz, Judith D., Testimony given at September 13, 2016 Hearing of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Subcommittee on the Interior ............................................................................................... 79 Summit County Council, September 21, 2016 Letter to Reps. McClintock and Tsongas ................................................................................................... 102 Uintah County Commissioners, Letter to Chairman McClintock ................ 103 Ute Mountain Ute Tribe, September 9, 2016 Letter to Congress ................ 15 Ute Indian Tribe, Prepared statement of ....................................................... 107 Wilderness Society, September 13, 2016 Letter to Reps. McClintock and Tsongas .......................................................................................................... 64 VerDate Mar 15 2010 14:41 Dec 21, 2016 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 J:\114TH CONGRESS\FEDERAL LANDS\09-14-16\21547.TXT DARLEN LEGISLATIVE HEARING ON H.R. 5780, TO PROVIDE GREATER CONSERVATION, RECREATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND LOCAL MANAGEMENT OF FEDERAL LANDS IN UTAH, AND FOR OTHER PUR- POSES, ‘‘UTAH PUBLIC LANDS INITIATIVE ACT’’ Wednesday, September 14, 2016 U.S. House