E PL UR UM IB N U U S Congressional Record United States th of America PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE 104 CONGRESS, SECOND SESSION

Vol. 142 WASHINGTON, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 1996 No. 124 House of Representatives

The House met at 9 a.m. and was lic for which it stands, one nation under God, The Assistant to the Sergeant at called to order by the Speaker pro tem- indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Arms, Donald T. Kellaher, announced pore [Mr. HEFLEY]. f the President pro tempore and Mem- bers of the U.S. Senate, who entered f ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER the Hall of the House of Representa- PRO TEMPORE DESIGNATION OF THE SPEAKER tives, the President pro tempore taking PRO TEMPORE The SPEAKER pro tempore. The the chair at the right of the Speaker, The SPEAKER pro tempore laid be- Chair desires to make an announce- and the Members of the Senate the fore the House the following commu- ment. seats reserved for them. nication from the Speaker: After consultation with the majority The SPEAKER. On the part of the WASHINGTON, DC, and minority leaders, and with their House, the Chair appoints as members September 11, 1996. consent and approval, the Chair an- of the committee to escort the Prime I hereby designate the Honorable JOEL nounces that during the joint meeting Minister of Ireland into the Chamber: HEFLEY to act as Speaker pro tempore on to hear an address by His Excellency the gentleman from Texas [Mr. this day. John Bruton, only the doors imme- ARMEY]; the gentleman from Texas NEWT GINGRICH, [Mr. DELAY]; the gentleman from Ohio Speaker of the House of Representatives. diately opposite the Speaker and those on his right and left will be open. [Mr. BOEHNER]; the gentleman from f No one will be allowed on the floor of California [Mr. COX]; the gentleman PRAYER the House who does not have the privi- from New York [Mr. GILMAN]; the gen- The Chaplain, Rev. James David lege of the floor of the House. tleman from Massachusetts [Mr. Ford, D.D., offered the following pray- Due to the large attendance which is BLUTE]; the gentleman from New Jer- er: anticipated, the Chair feels that the sey [Mr. FRANKS]; the gentleman from New York [Mr. KING]; the gentleman Bless this day and bless this land, rule regarding the privilege of the floor from New York [Mr. LAZIO]; the gen- Keep us safe with Your strong hand. must be strictly adhered to. May Your spirit, O God, forgive, Children of Members will not be per- tleman from New York [Mr. QUINN]; the All our lives so we might live. mitted on the floor, and the coopera- gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. May Your benediction, O gracious tion of all Members is requested. ENGLISH]; the gentleman from Illinois God, that is new every morning and f [Mr. FLANAGAN]; the gentlewoman from with us until the last light of day, sur- New York [Mrs. KELLY]; the gentleman round us and keep us in Your peace, RECESS from New Jersey [Mr. MARTINI]; the now and forevermore. Amen. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- gentleman from Michigan [Mr. f ant to the order of the House of Thurs- BONIOR]; the gentlewoman from Con- day, September 5, 1996, the House will necticut [Mrs. KENNELLY]; the gen- THE JOURNAL stand in recess subject to the call of tleman from Maryland [Mr. HOYER]; The SPEAKER pro tempore. The the Chair. the gentleman from Mississippi [Mr. Chair has examined the Journal of the Accordingly (at 9 o’clock and 2 min- MONTGOMERY]; the gentleman from last day’s proceedings and announces utes a.m.), the House stood in recess Massachusetts [Mr. MARKEY]; the gen- to the House his approval thereof. subject to the call of the Chair. tleman from Michigan [Mr. KILDEE]; Pursuant to clause 1, rule I, the Jour- During the recess, beginning at about the gentleman from Montana [Mr. WIL- nal stands approved. 10 a.m., the following proceedings were LIAMS]; the gentleman from Pennsylva- f had: nia [Mr. BORSKI]; the gentleman from New York [Mr. MANTON]; the gen- f PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE tleman from Washington [Mr. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Will the b 0955 MCDERMOTT]; the gentleman from Mas- gentleman from Mississippi [Mr. MONT- sachusetts [Mr. NEAL]; the gentleman JOINT MEETING OF THE HOUSE GOMERY] come forward and lead the from Virginia [Mr. MORAN]; the gentle- House in the Pledge of Allegiance. AND SENATE TO HEAR AN AD- woman from New York [Mrs. DRESS BY HIS EXCELLENCY, Mr. MONTGOMERY led the Pledge of MALONEY]; and the gentleman from JOHN BRUTON, PRIME MINISTER Allegiance as follows: Rhode Island [Mr. KENNEDY]. OF IRELAND I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The United States of America, and to the Repub- The Speaker of the House presided. President pro tempore of the Senate, at

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H10175 H10176 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 the direction of that body, appoints the Heaven has favoured with an oppor- about who was going to pay taxes and following Senators as a committee on tunity of deliberating upon, and choos- how they were going to be collected, the part of the Senate to escort His Ex- ing, the form of government under how they would get their goods to mar- cellency, John Bruton, the Prime Min- which they shall live,’’ making Amer- ket, and how their frontiers would be ister of Ireland into the Chamber: the ica the pioneer of that most powerful protected, very practical problems. Senator from Wyoming [Mr. SIMPSON]; of all political ideas: democracy under Americans in 1786 knew at Annapolis the Senator from Mississippi [Mr. the rule of law. that they could not agree on commer- COCHRAN]; the Senator from Alaska Two hundred and ten years later cial reforms to protect trade without [Mr. STEVENS]; the Senator from Flor- Americans can look back with pride at making political reforms as well. That ida [Mr. MACK]; the Senator from what they have given to the world. is why the men at Annapolis 210 years South Dakota [Mr. DASCHLE]; the Sen- Never before in that long period have ago decided to call a constitutional ator from Massachusetts [Mr. KEN- more of humanity lived under a system conference in Philadelphia the follow- NEDY]; the Senator from Vermont [Mr. based on democracy and the rule of law ing May. By working together to find LEAHY]; and the Senator from Rhode than do so today. the means of solving the practical Island [Mr. PELL]. Even in the case of countries as af- problems of life for their citizens, the flicted as Burma, people are standing Framers of the U.S. Constitution b 1000 up for democracy and the rule of law. forged the most durable and perhaps The Assistant to the Sergeant at For the first time in their history, the the fairest system of government the Arms announced the Acting Dean of Russian people have freely elected world has ever seen. They came to- the Diplomatic Corps, Dr. Joseph Edsel their own President. The American gether as people who were each loyal, Edmunds, Ambassador of Saint Lucia. model, constitutional democracy, has first and foremost, to their own States. The Acting Dean of the Diplomatic succeeded and spread because it is built But they knew that that loyalty and Corps entered the Hall of the House of on a realistic view of human nature. allegiance could find its best expres- Representatives and took the seat re- Checks and balances are needed. sion as part of a wider American con- served for him. As James Madison said: ‘‘You must tinental loyalty. The Assistant to the Sergeant at first enable the Government to control Mr. Speaker, it was necessity that brought Europe together too, the ne- Arms announced the Cabinet of the the governed, and in the next place, cessity of reconstruction after World President of the United States. oblige it to control itself.’’ The members of the Cabinet of the American democracy has worked be- War II, the necessity of resisting com- munism, and the necessity to resolve President of the United States entered cause it has controlled itself through national conflicts that had caused 3 the Hall of the House of Representa- the separation of powers in a written wars in just 80 years. That dynamic, tives and took the seats reserved for Constitution, and through a strong and that necessity, continues in Europe them in front of the Speaker’s rostrum. independent Supreme Court that inter- At 10 o’clock and 5 minutes a.m., the today. prets that Constitution. It is often said that politicians and Assistant to the Sergeant at Arms an- As President Andrew Jackson, a man politics are made to serve commercial nounced His Excellency, John Bruton, of Irish ancestry, said in 1821: ‘‘The needs. The European Union has done the Prime Minister of Ireland. great can protect themselves, but the the reverse. It has made commerce the The Prime Minister of Ireland, es- poor and humble require the arm and servant of a great political objective. corted by the committee of Senators the shield of the law.’’ By creating a single coal and steel in- I speak today as President in office of and Representatives, entered the Hall dustry, a single agricultural market, a the European Council, a body that is of the House of Representatives, and single commercial market, the Euro- stood at the Clerk’s desk. aiming to do for the 15 member states pean Union has created economic bonds [Applause, the Members rising.] of the European Union what the men that bind its members together politi- The SPEAKER. Members of the Con- who met, and they unfortunately only cally. gress, it is my great privilege, and I were men who met at Annapolis and at The European Union has undermined deem it a high honor and personal Philadelphia, did so long ago for the 13 the economic base of that force that pleasure to present to you His Excel- colonies of America. The European causes wars, national chauvinism, but lency, John Bruton, the Taoiseach, Union, through an Inter-Governmental the psychological base of national Prime Minister of Ireland. Conference launched last April in chauvinism still remains a threat in [Applause, the Members rising.] Turin, is seeking to write a new con- Europe. If Europeans do not constantly f stitution for Europe that will enable work at bringing their union closer to- the European Union to add new mem- ADDRESS BY HIS EXCELLENCY, gether, the strains arising from re- bers to its east, just as your constitu- JOHN BRUTON, PRIME MINISTER maining differences will gradually pull tion of 1789 enabled this great union to OF IRELAND their union apart. add so many new members to its west. Can the European Union create eco- PRIME MINISTER BRUTON. Mr. The establishment of the United nomic bonds that are strong enough to Speaker, Senator THURMOND, Members States of America was the great con- persuade European states to make sac- of Congress, it is a great honor to Ire- structive constitutional achievement rifices and take risks for a common ob- land that I have been asked to address of the late 18th century. The establish- jective? That is an important question this joint session of Congress today, as ment of the European Union out of the for Europe, and it is also an important only the 30th head of State or govern- devastation of World War II could be question for Europe’s allies and the ment of an European country to do so described as the great constructive United States. And it is a question that since 1945. But it is a particular honor constitutional achievement of the late Europe has to answer for itself. And de- to be asked to speak here on this day, 20th century. pending on that answer, we will know the 11th of September. We in Europe have much to learn whether the Yugoslav violence of 1992– For it was on this day, the 11th of from American experience. Americans 93 was just the last convulsion of an September, 210 years ago almost to the came together because of necessity. old and primitive Europe or a sign of hour, that delegates from New York, Very few of the eventual Framers of wider threats to come. And Europe has New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, the U.S. Constitution who met at An- to answer that question while simulta- and Virginia met just 32 miles from napolis were inspired by the theories of neously bringing in new members, with here at Annapolis in Maryland, and it Montesquieu or Locke, wanting to a different political tradition from was there, at Annapolis, that they de- build the perfect state, a model democ- Central and Eastern Europe. That cided to convene the convention in racy, a castle built in the sky. They problem, that precise problem of bring- Philadelphia that gave the people the came together rather because they had ing existing members closer together, Constitution of the United States of to reach urgent agreement on a frame- while also expanding membership, is a America, the world’s first Federal con- work to sort out immediate problems familiar problem to anyone who has stitution, the constitution that made about shipping on the Potomac, about studied the 19th century history of the Americans ‘‘the first people whom how they would pay for the army, United States. September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10177 Europe’s task of constitution-build- Mitchell, whose skill and commitment agrees that the other tradition cannot ing today is particularly difficult. Eu- I salute today. They have had about 6 be coerced. ropeans were on different sides in past weeks of talks together, and they have The Irish Government has no interest wars, whereas America’s Founding Fa- reached agreement on important proce- in propelling anybody into an arrange- thers had all been on the same side. dural issues, and laid the foundation ment that they do not wish to be part But, Mr. Speaker, we are determined to for forward movement. of. We are not motivated by any inter- make the European Union work, to Against the background of 25 years of ests of our own other than that of ob- make it work for peace, to make the barbarity of every kind, and almost taining an agreement which is reason- European Union a firm friend and part- four centuries of distrust, it is hard to able and fair to the aspirations of both ner of this great American union. expect rapid agreement between nine communities in Northern Ireland. The United States has built a union different parties in the space of only 6 Mr. Speaker, as a historian, I know that is robust enough to accommodate weeks. My own view is that the har- that you are very conscious of the fact radical disagreements and still take mony that we seek will not come over- that Europe has many psychological tough decisions when tough decisions night. It will come in stages, from the boundaries that go back to the Thirty have to be taken. Europe must do the experience of working together to solve Years War and further, boundaries of same. practical, immediate problems. religion, boundaries between one world This union, the United States, has But, if that is to happen, it is the view and another. One of those psycho- worked because it is based on freedom. strong view of my government that the logical boundaries does indeed run As Thomas Jefferson said, ‘‘Error of talks must now move beyond procedure through the ancient province of Ulster. opinion may be tolerated, so long as and soon discuss really substantive is- Yet similar boundaries in Europe have reason is left free to combat it.’’ sues, substantive issues of disagree- not prevented the development of Conformism of thinking, political ment. This must happen quickly. This agreed political structures across correctness, if you will, is the great must happen quickly if we are not to boundaries, which allow regions and enemy of democratic discourse. We miss the window of opportunity, so countries, majorities and minorities, must not be afraid to disagree. We often highlighted by President Clinton and within states, to work together in must not dismiss other people’s opin- during his recent visit to Ireland. partnership, to the mutual benefit of ions just because they have used the On that occasion, the President their people. wrong words to express them. Equally, spoke for all Americans. Almost as We in Ireland can admire our history. we must accept that some people’s much as the Irish themselves, Ameri- We can regret aspects of it, too, but we views are so profoundly different from cans welcomed the political efforts certainly cannot erase it. We don’t owe ours that we will never agree with that gave us a ceasefire of 17 months. our history any debts. We can’t relive them or them with us. But now all of us want the IRA to stop our great-grandparents’ lives for them. Living with difference. That’s the for good. True negotiations can only We are not obliged to take offense on challenge for the United States today. take place in an atmosphere of genuine their behalf, any more than we are ob- It’s the challenge for Europe. It’s the peace. ligated to atone for their sins. challenge for Ireland as a whole, but in The all-party talks, for which we b 1030 a very particular way, it is a challenge have all worked so hard, have been de- for Northern Ireland—living with dif- livered. We must have everybody there It is our task to live in this genera- ference. at those talks now, genuinely willing, tion, as people who live in Ireland and In Northern Ireland we see two com- and able, to negotiate. That can only whose children will live there too. munities, each offended by the views of happen when everyone has been con- Northern Ireland needs a political the other, and by how those views are vinced that violence will never be used system that allows the people there to expressed. Two communities, each feel- again to intimidate opponents or to take responsibility together for their ing itself to be a minority, a minority control supporters, never again. That own future. Taking responsibility, that has been oppressed or a minority means a cessation of violence by the something that you, Mr. Speaker, and that may be oppressed in the future. IRA that will hold in all cir- many other Members of this Congress The fears of each community mirror cumstances, and I know that I have the on both sides of the House have empha- those of the other. full support of the U.S. Congress for sized time and again, taking respon- Two minorities, equally justly proud that vital objective. sibility. Thanks to the generous sup- of their heritage, each believing that In trying to work out a system of port of Congress, the people of North- their heritage is founded on tolerance government that all can share in ern Ireland, of both traditions, already and civil liberties, and each believing Northern Ireland in quality and parity take responsibility together for eco- that sincerely. Two minorities who yet of esteem, we are not asking Unionists nomic projects, aided by the Inter- will always be different from one an- to cease to be loyally British, any more national Fund for Ireland. other, but who have not yet been able than we are asking Nationalists to They also have taken responsibility to see that, on many important issues, cease to be loyally Irish, any more together at a local level this summer they already agree with one another than the original Framers of the U.S. by agreeing in very different cir- far more than they disagree, and far Constitution ceased to be loyal Vir- cumstances in many areas the routes more than either agree with others. ginians or loyal members of the Com- of contentious marches. Unfortunately, They have exaggerated their dif- monwealth of Massachusetts. We are agreement was not reached in every ferences and minimized their asking Nationalists and Unionists to case, but one should not underrate the similarities. agree on a political framework which importance of responsibility having Thus, if there is to be a peaceful and will allow them, together, to take on been taken in many other cases. fair accommodation in Northern Ire- responsibility for solving the day-to- But a wider political agreement is land, each tradition must be willing to day problems that affect the lives of what we need now. The destructive sit down and listen for long enough to the 11⁄2 million people who live in force of sectarianism is all too easily the views, the worries, and the con- Northern Ireland, and to do so in har- fanned. It can quickly get beyond the cerns of the other tradition, to uncover mony and cooperation with Britain and control of those who fan it, making the common ground. with the rest of Ireland. compromise impossible, and eventually Thanks to the efforts of so many peo- Let the parties build on what they al- coming back to consume its authors. ple here in the United States, the ready agree about. All parties in That is why we need an agreement, President and Vice President GORE, Northern Ireland already agree that within a workable timeframe. Such an Speaker GINGRICH, and other leaders of the form of government should be agreement is within reach. The Irish both Houses of Congress, most of the democratic. All agree that there should and British Governments were able to parties in Northern Ireland have been be a Bill of Rights. All agree that there agree last year on a detailed model or sitting down and listening to one an- should be links with the rest of the is- framework of such an agreement. The other since the 10th of June, under the land. Each tradition agrees that the parties can add to that. They can sub- able chairmanship of Senator George other should be respected, and each tract from it, or they can come up with H10178 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 an entirely new draft. But the core The European Union reflects that tiate under threat. That is why those problems that the two governments, new concept. In the European Union who wish to win respect through demo- the British and Irish Governments, one can at the same time owe alle- cratic politics must give up all connec- have plainly identified last year must giance to Flanders, to Belgium, and to tions with terror, give up the threat of be tackled and overcome by this Europe, and yet share the same work- terror, and give up even giving coded present generation of political leaders. ing and living space with someone who warnings about terror. I am absolutely determined that that has the different set of national alle- b 1040 will happen. giances. Mr. Speaker, a number of the men If such a model can work for Europe, Terror cannot be part of the political who met in Philadelphia to frame the it can work for Northern Ireland too, calculus of a democracy. That is why U.S. Constitution were of Ulster Scots and if we can get it right in Northern Ireland strongly supports the United ancestry. Some of their distant cousins Ireland, we will be setting a model for States efforts to create world rules to sit on the Unionist benches at the Bel- similarly divided communities across combat terrorism, terrorism of which fast talks, just as some of their ances- the world, just as men of Irish descent United States citizens have been vic- tors defended Derry’s walls in 1689. set a model for the world 210 years ago tims in recent times. If men of that ancestry could devise today, when they met at Annapolis and Freedom and democracy work, be- the fairest and greatest democratic decided to draw up the Constitution of cause in a democracy change must be Constitution in the world, surely they this United States. based on consent, and because it gives can work with neighbors today to de- Yes, both Ireland and the United space to individuals to innovate; creat- vise a fair and just system for their States have responsibilities to the ing the best conditions, freedom, for own country. wider world, to the 6 billion people who economic growth. Agreed institutions for Northern Ire- inhabit this globe. There are three Ireland is a good example of a democ- land must be ones that enforce fairness times as many people in the world racy that works. Ireland’s economic and check the arbitrary excesses of today as there were when the Irish growth rate last year was the highest whoever happens to be in the majority state was founded in December 1921, in Europe for the third year in a row. in any area at any particular time. and six times as many people as there Inflation in Ireland is amongst the low- Your second President, John Adams, were when the United States was est in Europe. Government spending made a bleak, but not altogether unre- formed. Africa had half Europe’s popu- came down from 52 percent of GNP in alistic, comment on universal human lation in 1950. Thirty years from now 1986, to just 40 percent today. Four nature, when he said: there will be three times as many Afri- times as many Irish people go to col- The people, when unchecked, have been as cans as Europeans. lege today as did so in 1965. The propor- unjust, tyrannical, brutal, barbarous and All of these people will have to be fed tion of Irish children who complete cruel as any king or senate possessed of un- high school have quadrupled since then controllable power. The majority has eter- and clothed. All will need around 2,000 calories per day, some will want to and the numbers have more than quad- nally, and without exception, usurped over rupled. the rights of the minority. consume more, some ought to consume As a result, as a direct result, one- Mr. Speaker, that is why the enforce- less, and will need, and this is even more important, two liters per day of third of all U.S. high-technology in- ment of fairness through law has been vestment going to Europe as a whole one of the keystones of the American clean, I emphasize, clean, water. There will be 2 billion more people in the comes to Ireland. One-third. Constitution. Education is the key. That is also why we need rules, and a globe 30 years from now, all of whom We do have problems. Too many Irish balanced system of institutions, in will have those requirements, and we people are unemployed. Northern Ireland. Rules which limit know that that is going to happen. And But the biggest common factor uncontrollable power. Rules that re- all of them, if we are to have peace, amongst the unemployed is that they quire people to share power. Rules that will need to feel that they are re- left school too early. It is not enough allow people to build trust through spected parts of the world community, that 85 percent of Irish children com- small successes. Rules which recognize that they are not second class. plete high school, or to use the Irish that people are different from one an- The world is a better place today term, sit the Leaving Certificate, we other, and that people’s allegiances than it was 50 years ago. It can be even need 100 percent to do so. Not just to may be many and varied. better 50 years from now if we build acquire a technical qualification but to That is a lesson that the world as a freedom, freedom for all, within rules understand their place in the world, whole needs to learn, if it is to live at set by democratic consent. where they are coming from, who they peace. Lawmakers everywhere must remem- are, and as much as possible about the Political theorists of the 19th cen- ber that rules work best when there is other peoples with whom they must tury assumed that a person could only consent to the way in which they have share this increasingly crowded globe. have one sovereign allegiance to his or been played, and when everyone has Mr. Speaker, I thank all Americans, her territorial nation state. had a recognized input to the making and Americans of Irish heritage in par- In the 19th and early 20th centuries, of the rules. That is why we need to re- ticular, for their contribution to Ire- territorially based natural resources, form the United Nations, because we land’s success. I salute the contribu- agriculture and mineral, were crucial cannot impose rules unilaterally. If the tions that men and women of Irish her- to the economy, so nation and terri- United Nations had not been set up in itage have made to this great Nation, tory normally had to be one and the San Francisco in 1946, we would have in every walk of life. same. to be inventing it today, because given Mr. Speaker, I ask Congress to con- In contrast, knowledge, instant com- the scale of the world’s problem, given tinue to support the peace process in munications, multiculturalism, or at the extreme increase in world popu- Ireland. And, Mr. Speaker, I ask Con- least a multiplicity of cultures, and lation, we must have a means of mak- gress, representing this great American mobility, people moving from one ing rules which allow us all to share union, to work together with the Euro- country to another, money moving the world together, rules in which all pean Union to build a structure of from one country to another in an in- nations have had a part in the making. peace for the world as a whole. stant, these would be the characteris- Let me take one area as an example Thank you. tics of the 21st century, and nationali- of where world rules are needed. We [Applause, the Members rising.] ties will inevitably become more and need global rules against terrorism, At 10 o’clock and 43 minutes a.m., more intermixed, one with the other. terrorism which exploits the freedom the Prime Minister of Ireland accom- That is why in many parts of the of our media. As President Bush said, panied by the committee of escort, re- world, a new political model is needed ‘‘simply by capturing the headlines and tired from the Hall of the House of to organize this new social reality, a television time, the terrorist partially Representatives. model that recognizes that people can succeeds.’’ The Assistant to the Sergeant at have more allegiances than one, and Violence and democratic politics can Arms escorted the invited guests from yet live and work happily together. never mix. Civilized states do not nego- the Chamber in the following order: September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10179 The Members of the President’s Cabi- the House to the bill (S. 640) ‘‘An Act I cannot imagine going to the country— net. to provide for the conservation and de- tell them we’ve got a $1.6 million report— The Acting Dean of the Diplomatic velopment of water and related re- and, by the way, there’s nothing in it, but Corps. sources, to authorize the Secretary of you can’t see it, but clearly that report is going to have to be published. f the Army to construct various projects for improvements to rivers and harbors Well, Mr. Speaker, why don’t you tell JOINT MEETING DISSOLVED of the United States, and for other pur- your Committee on Standards of Offi- The SPEAKER. The purpose of the poses,’’ requests a conference with the cial Conduct to release the report? joint meeting having been completed, House on the disagreeing votes of the They are meeting today at 1:30. Let the Chair declares the joint meeting of two Houses thereon, and appoints Mr. every Member have it. I would like to the two Houses now dissolved. CHAFEE, Mr. WARNER, Mr. SMITH, Mr. have a copy of that report. Every Mem- Accordingly, at 10 o’clock and 45 BAUCUS, and Mr. MOYNIHAN, to be the ber of this House by tomorrow should minutes a.m., the joint meeting of the conferees on the part of the Senate. have a copy of that report. I do not know what is in it. I do not know if it two Houses was dissolved. f The Members of the Senate retired to exonerates you, but let us release the their Chamber. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER report. PRO TEMPORE f f The SPEAKER pro tempore. The VOTE ‘‘YES’’ FOR THE EXPORTS, ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER Chair will entertain fifteen 1-minute JOBS, AND GROWTH ACT The SPEAKER. The House will con- speeches on each side. (Mr. MANZULLO asked and was tinue in recess until 12 noon. f given permission to address the House f EXPORTS, JOBS, AND GROWTH for 1 minute and to revise and extend b 1200 ACT OF 1996 his remarks.) Mr. MANZULLO. Mr. Speaker, today (Mr. ROTH asked and was given per- AFTER RECESS we will vote on the Exports, Jobs, and mission to address the House for 1 Growth Act. This bill is divided into The recess having expired, the House minute and to revise and extend his re- three parts, first the Overseas Private was called to order by the Speaker pro marks.) Investment Corporation, which helps tempore [Mr. CAMP] at 12 noon. Mr. ROTH. Mr. Speaker, today we are to ensure against long-term political f going to have a very important vote. and commercial risk. Yesterday, under suspension, we de- PRINTING OF PROCEEDINGS HAD The Congressional Budget Office esti- bated H.R. 3759, and I ask my col- DURING RECESS mates that OPIC will lower the deficit leagues to pay attention to this bill. It by $600 million over the next 5 years. Mr. ROTH. Mr. Speaker, I ask unani- is the Exports, Jobs, and Growth Act. OPIC is not corporate welfare because mous consent that the proceedings had It adds $38 billion in exports. It adds companies pay, I will repeat, pay for during the recess be printed in the some 123,000 new American jobs, and it the services they receive. RECORD. cuts the deficit by $600 million. Fifteen Second is the Trade Development The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there unions have endorsed this legislation, Agency. This small 38-employee agency objection to the request of the gen- business has endorsed this legislation, designs in-U.S. specifications into for- tleman from Wisconsin? people all across America are asking eign infrastructure projects so Amer- There was no objection. for this bill. ican companies can gain valuable con- f With all the emphasis today on the tracts overseas. negative things in politics, let us do MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE Finally is the International Trade something positive for America. Let us Administration division of the Com- A message from the Senate by Mr. vote for H.R. 3759 when it comes up merce Department. Within this divi- Lundregan, one of its clerks, an- today. nounced that the Senate had passed sion is the United States and Foreign f without amendment a bill of the House Commercial Service which operates 83 of the following title: RELEASE THE OUTSIDE COUN- field offices in the United States. They H.R. 3396. An act to define and protect the SEL’S REPORT ON NEWT GING- primarily serve small business export- institution of marriage. RICH ers in the search for export opportuni- ties. The message also announced that the (Mr. VOLKMER asked and was given If Members vote against this legisla- Senate agrees to the report of the com- permission to address the House for 1 tion, it will unilaterally disarm Amer- mittee of conference on the disagreeing minute and to revise and extend his re- ican workers in the global trade war. votes of the two Houses on the amend- marks.) Our European and Asian competitors ments of the Senate to the bill (H.R. Mr. VOLKMER. Mr. Speaker, a spend much more on these programs. It 3230) ‘‘An Act to authorize appropria- month ago James Cole, who is the spe- is time to wake up to the imperfect re- tions for fiscal year 1997 for military cial counsel investigating our Speaker, ality of the global trading system and activities of the Department of De- NEWT GINGRICH, filed a report with the support this legislation. The Clinton fense, for military construction, and Committee on Standards of Official administration supports it; business for defense activities of the Depart- Conduct. It cost half a million dollars groups support it; labor unions support ment of Energy, to prescribe personnel of taxpayers’ money. it. Vote for H.R. 3759. strengths for such fiscal year for the What has happened to it? Well, it has Armed Forces, and for other purposes.’’ been submerged by the Committee on f The message also announced that the Standards of Official Conduct. They are TIME FOR ETHICS COMMITTEE TO Senate had passed bills of the following not going to release it, it appears. QUIT STALLING titles in which the concurrence of the Well, what did NEWT GINGRICH say House is requested: (Mrs. SCHROEDER asked and was about these kinds of reports? Back in given permission to address the House S. 1669. An act to name the Department of March 1989, he said in regard to the re- for 1 minute, revise and extend her re- Veterans Affairs medical center in Jackson, port of the special counsel on our marks, and include extraneous mate- Mississippi, as the ‘‘G.V. (Sonny) Montgom- former Speaker, Jim Wright: ery Department of Veterans Affairs Medical rial.) Now that report is secret; I don’t know Center’’; and Mrs. SCHROEDER. Mr. Speaker, what’s in it. I don’t know of anybody other S. 1918. An act to amend trade laws and re- today the New York Times lead edi- than the committee members and Mr. lated provisions to clarify the designation of Phelan, who was special counsel, who know torial talks about this House and its normal trade relations. what is in it—except Mr. Wright’s lawyer. stalling on ethics. This is shameful. The message also announced that the And I think that report and the back-up doc- The New York Times points out that Senate disagrees to the amendment of uments have to be published. the Committee on Standards of Official H10180 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 Conduct is supposed to meet today, and Mr. BALLENGER. Mr. Speaker, the trict of North Carolina. The devasta- it goes on to say: If after all this time, National Center on Addiction and Sub- tion to people, property, and crops is Mrs. JOHNSON and her colleagues can- stance Abuse has released some survey overwhelming. We are moving to assess not rise above partisanship to act information on teenage drug activity the damage and provide relief to the promptly on Mr. Cole’s findings and that is absolutely shocking. human suffering caused by Hurricane make them public, then they will dem- The researchers found that by the Fran. I delivered a check to the Amer- onstrate that this is little more than a time a teen reaches the age of 17, 68 ican Red Cross from U.S. Tobacco to charade and not the principled com- percent of them can buy pot within a help alleviate the budgetary strain mittee upholding the traditions and day; 62 percent have friends who use that Fran has placed on the Red Cross. honor of this House. marijuana; 58 percent have been solic- Today, I am joining my colleagues Mr. Speaker, I hope everybody looks ited to buy marijuana; 58 percent know from eastern North Carolina in intro- at this and everybody in this body real- someone who uses acid, cocaine, or her- ducing a bipartisan bill that will pro- izes we will all be tainted if we do not oin; 40 percent have personally wit- vide emergency appropriations to agen- get this report out. It has taken 2 nessed the sale of drugs in their own cies that may run out of money due to years, it has taken half a million dol- neighborhood; and less than one in the devastation from the hurricane and lars, and they are trying to hermeti- three attend a drug-free school. ongoing flooding. cally seal it down there, say none of us Mr. Speaker, this country is losing Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the can see it, but then pronounce that it the war on drugs. We are literally los- President for visiting eastern North says nothing. If it said nothing, I would ing a generation of children to hope- Carolina this coming weekend to assess think we would be able to see it. lessness, to shattered dreams, and the damage on a first-hand basis. He Mr. Speaker, I include the New York eventually to a loss of their freedom. will see the extent of the devastation Times article for the RECORD. Our children deserve better. Every from Hurricane Fran. Hopefully, he [From the New York Times, Sept. 11, 1996] child should have a strong family, a will stop to speak with the tobacco drug-free school, and safe streets. And STALLING ON ETHICS farmers in my district who have suf- Crowning two years of partisan gridlock, we must do all we can as leaders to fered a major blow from this natural the House Ethics Committee seems deter- make this a reality for all children, be- disaster. But as Bill Clinton flies over mined to sacrifice whatever little is left of fore it’s too late. the destruction to the people and prop- its credibility by letting Congress adjourn Mr. Speaker, where is our President erty of North Carolina, he might pon- without resolving any of the pending ethics on this? der about the man-made disaster he complaints against Speaker Newt Gingrich. f helped create—FDA regulation of to- The committee’s present plans do not even ETHICS COMMITTEE SHOULD bacco—and the devastation it will call for making public the lengthy report bring to the tobacco farmers in my dis- filed last month by James Cole, the special RELEASE COLE’S REPORT trict. counsel belatedly hired by the committee to (Mr. KLINK asked and was given per- f look into tax law charges against the Speak- mission to address the House for 1 er. By stalling so long to shield him, the com- minute and to revise and extend his re- RELEASE ETHICS REPORT ON mittee’s Republican chairwoman, Nancy marks.) SPEAKER Johnson of Connecticut, has left the panel Mr. KLINK. Mr. Speaker, 7 years ago, (Ms. DELAURO asked and was given little time to resolve all allegations against the current Speaker of the House of permission to address the House for 1 Mr. Gingrich. But the two weeks or so before Representatives stood on this very minute and to revise and extend her re- Congress adjourns is surely ample time to floor and said I think that it is vital marks.) bring at least this phase of the case to an that we take as a Congress our com- Mr. DELAURO. Mr. Speaker, NEWT honorable conclusion. mitment to publish that report and to Mrs. Johnson and her G.O.P. colleagues GINGRICH is absolutely right. He said, succumbed to public pressure last December release those documents so that the ‘‘The 435 Members of the House should and finally agreed to retain an outside coun- country can judge whether or not the look at all the facts, should have avail- sel, Mr. Cole. They gave him a limited man- man who is second in line to be Presi- able to them all the reports and all the date to examine whether Mr. Gingrich had dent, the Speaker of the House, should background documents and the Amer- violated tax laws by using tax-deductible do- be in that position. ican people should have the same.’’ nations to finance a college course he taught Of course, that was NEWT GINGRICH NEWT GINGRICH said that in 1989 in Georgia in 1993. It intentionally omitted a talking about then Speaker Jim about the ethics report on then Speak- range of questions involving Gopac, Mr. Wright. But Speaker GINGRICH’s words er Jim Wright. And what he said then Gingrich’s aggressively partisan political ac- are as true today as they were 7 years tion committee, which helped to develop the about the need for full disclosure is course. These questions, which are the sub- ago. And now we have another report, equally true today about the outside ject of a complaint filed by the House minor- this one not by Mr. Phelan, but by counsel’s report on NEWT GINGRICH’S ity whip, David Bonior, also need review by James Cole, that cost the taxpayers of own dealings. an outside counsel, but Republicans on the this country a half million dollars, and Don’t just take my word for it. To- committee are resisting. every Member of the House of Rep- day’s New York Times calls upon the It is not known whether the evidence gath- resentatives should know today what is House Ethics Committee to release the ered by Mr. Cole exonerates the Speaker on in that report. The people of this Na- report. The Times says ‘‘If after all the tax charges, or suggests he behaved ei- ther improperly or unethically. Committee tion who paid for that report need to this time, Mrs. Johnson and her col- members have said the report simply lays know what is in that report. leagues cannot rise above partisanship out the facts while failing to make any rec- Again the words of then Member to act promptly on Mr. Coles’ findings ommendations. But the issue at this point is GINGRICH, now Speaker GINGRICH, who and make them public, they will dem- not just Mr. Gingrich’s conduct, or the thor- said I cannot imagine going to the onstrate that this supposedly prin- oughness of Mr. Cole’s work, but the efficacy country to tell them that we have got cipled panel is little more than a cha- of the committee itself. $1.6 million in this report, and, by the rade. The Ethics Committee is scheduled to way, there is nothing in it. You cannot Stop the coverup. Release the ethics meet today. If after all this time Mrs. John- son and her colleagues cannot rise above par- see it. We must let the American peo- report on NEWT GINGRICH. tisanship to act promptly on Mr. Cole’s find- ple and this Congress see this report. f f ings and make them public, they will dem- EXPORTS, JOBS, AND GROWTH onstrate that this supposedly principled panel is little more than a charade. TWIN DISASTERS HIT EASTERN ACT OF 1996 NORTH CAROLINA f (Mr. BEREUTER asked and was (Mr. FUNDERBURK asked and was given permission to address the House OUR CHILDREN DESERVE BETTER given permission to address the House for 1 minute and to revise and extend THAN DRUGS for 1 minute and to revise and extend his remarks.) (Mr. BALLENGER asked and was his remarks.) Mr. BEREUTER. Mr. Speaker, if given permission to address the House Mr. FUNDERBURK. Mr. Speaker, I Members want to send high-paying ex- for 1 minute.) have just returned from the second dis- port-related jobs to Japan, Germany, September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10181 France, and Canada then they should At a time when we are so doggone Contrary to what we were told yes- vote today against, the Jobs, Exports concerned about the size of our budget terday, the AFL–CIO does not support and Growth Act of 1996. deficit, how can we in good conscience this bill. It has no position. Why? Be- But if Members want to keep high- expand a program that protects the cause some unions support it and some paying export-related jobs in the Unit- profits of Fortune 500 corporations at do not. ed States while generating over $600 the expense of the American taxpayer The standard should be not are some million toward deficit reduction, then and sends more jobs overseas? jobs made, but are more jobs made they should vote for this legislation. b 1215 than are in fact destroyed. Look at the Revisionists have labeled the Over- OPIC Fortune 500, just 4 of them: Ford, seas Private Investment Corporation as I strongly urge my colleagues to op- 160,000 Americans laid off; Exxon, 83,000 pose corporate welfare and vote against corporate welfare. Yesterday, this Americans laid off; AT&T, 127,000 H.R. 3759. Member challenged their leader, the Americans laid off; GE, 85,000 Ameri- distinguished gentleman from Ohio, to f cans laid off. point to 1 year in the last 25 of OPIC’s NEW YORK TIMES IS RIGHT: ETH- Until they bring in jobs to match history where it lost taxpayer’s money. ICS COMMITTEE IS STALLING ON Americans laid off, we must vote You know what Mr. Speaker, the GINGRICH COMPLAINTS against more subsidies for OPIC. gentleman from Ohio didn’t answer (Mr. MILLER of California asked and f this Member’s question because he was given permission to address the can’t. OPIC has generated positive net House for 1 minute and to revise and TREASURY AND THE DEBT CRISIS income for our Government very year extend his remarks.) (Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts asked since its inception in 1971—that’s why Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. it has $2.6 billion in reserves. and was given permission to address Speaker, the New York Times has it the House for 1 minute and to revise Without OPIC, America would have about right. For the past 2 years we sent $43 billion in United States ex- and extend his remarks.) have witnessed a systematic coverup Mr. NEAL of Massachusetts. Mr. ports and 200,000 American jobs to and stall by the Committee on Stand- Japan, France, Germany, Canada, Speaker, last November I was ex- ards of Official Conduct in dealing with tremely concerned about the debt ceil- Italy, and other industrialized coun- the ethics complaints regarding our tries. Political leaders in those coun- ing. I admired the manner in which Speaker, NEWT GINGRICH. Secretary Rubin handled the crisis. tries don’t call it corporate welfare, They stalled for the consideration of they rightly call export promotion a Secretary Rubin and his staff worked the early complaints. They dismissed diligently to find a solution to the pos- national priority. those complaints without interviewing f sibility of hitting the debt ceiling. without gathering evidence. They Congress’ failure to take action THE NEW AMERICA stalled in the gathering of evidence in placed the Department of the Treasury the major complaints against Speaker (Mr. TRAFICANT asked and was in a precarious position. Congressional GINGRICH. And finally, reluctantly, leadership was holding the debt ceiling given permission to address the House they yielded to public pressure and ap- for 1 minute and to revise and extend hostage during the battle of the budg- pointed an outside counsel. et. Congress played chicken with the fi- his remarks.) But when they appointed the outside nancial markets and the good name of Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Speaker, there counsel, they restrained his ability to our country. Secretary Rubin skillfully is a new book out called ‘‘The Com- engage in a comprehensive investiga- used every tool possible to save the plete Guide to Offshore Money Ha- tion, and then they limited his man- credit reputation of the United States vens.’’ A big ad in the Wall Street date and what he could investigate. and to keep the United States from de- Journal says ‘‘Make millions, protect And then, finally, they did not allow faulting. The United States faced the your privacy and legally avoid paying him to draw conclusions from the in- real possibility of a default. Our credit any taxes on the profits.’’ vestigation that he engaged in after rating had dropped. Think about it. The New America. spending $500,000. Invest overseas, hire foreign workers This House cannot go home to our Secretary Rubin took courageous for pennies, then ship your product constituents and not be able to report steps to keep the Government func- back to America. And do not worry if on the findings of the special counsel. tioning and the markets stabilized and you make a profit; you do not even The time has come for the Committee he was severely criticized. At one have to pay taxes on it. on Standards of Official Conduct to point, there was even talk of impeach- There are more loopholes in the U.S. stop the coverup, to stop the stall, and ment. Unfortunately, Secretary Rubin Tax Code than those old hockey nets at to give this House the information that was criticized by many Members of this the Boston Garden. Beam me up. The it has and to let the special counsel do body. Many were concerned about the truth is, America keeps shipping jobs its work. use of investments of Federal employ- ment retirement funds. The General and money overseas, and America is f getting in return two truckloads of Accounting Office [GAO] has released a mangoes and two baseball players to be OPIC BILL WILL DOUBLE SUB- report on Treasury’s handling of the named later. Think about that shot. SIDIZED INSURANCE TO FOR- debt ceiling. The GAO report concluded f TUNE 500 COMPANIES that Treasury conducted the Nation’s (Ms. NORTON asked and was given debt management legally and properly OPPOSE THE EXPORTS, JOBS, AND permission to address the House for 1 during the debt ceiling crisis. Treas- GROWTH ACT minute and to revise and extend her re- ury’s actions avoided a default and vio- (Mr. HOKE asked and was given per- marks.) lation of the statutory debt limit. mission to address the House for 1 Ms. NORTON. Mr. Speaker, Members The GAO report reviewed all actions minute and to revise and extend his re- should vote ‘‘no’’ on the OPIC bill be- taken by the Treasury during the pe- marks.) fore us today unless we want to double riod leading up to and after the debt Mr. HOKE. Mr. Speaker, I rise in op- subsidized insurance and loans for the limit was reached, approximately Octo- position to H.R. 3759, the so-called Ex- Fortune 500. That is what the OPIC bill ber 1995, through March 1996. Treasury ports, Jobs, and Growth Act. This leg- does. used extraordinary measures because islation is going to double the size of OPIC is touted as a Government sub- the statutory limit was not raised OPIC, the Overseas Private Investment sidized entity that acts like a private until 5 months after the old limit was Corporation. The increase will dra- corporation. Nonsense. If it is a cor- reached. The GAO report concluded matically increase the exposure of poration, why does it pay no taxes? Treasury used normal debt manage- OPIC to high risk areas, such as Africa That is a subsidy right off the top. Why ment procedures such as investment of and Russia, and default on these loans does it declare no dividends? Why does trust fund assets. Also, Treasury acted would have a very substantial impact two-thirds of its income come from in a proper and legal manner. Treas- on our budget. Treasury securities? ury’s actions were designed to ensure H10182 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 full and prompt restoration of lost in- as Mr. GINGRICH’s own constituents in despite the fact that the growth has terest to uninvested trust funds within Georgia, deserve to know if the allega- not been shared equally among all re- the limits of the law. tions are true or false. gions of the Nation. I am pleased with the results of the If the Republicans on the Committee Mr. Speaker, we owe much of this GAO report. This report confirms my on Standards of Official Conduct plan progress to the success of the 1993 belief that Secretary Rubin acted prop- to adjourn before addressing this com- budget reduction law which was en- erly and averted a serious and volatile plaint, the least they should do is re- acted by the Democratic Congress. It crisis. Once again, I think we should lease the report from the outside coun- was reduced the deficit by more than 60 commend the actions Secretary Rubin sel. Let the people of America judge for percent. It has expanded the EITC pro- took this past winter. ourselves if there is any wrongdoing. gram, providing tax breaks averaging f f $500 for New Yorkers alone. Let us not return to supply side eco- VOTE ‘‘NO’’ ON OPIC CORPORATE TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY nomics. Let us keep on a steady course WELFARE PROGRAM MEANS CUTS FOR MEDICARE which is providing economic growth for (Mr. SANDERS asked and was given AND STUDENT LOANS all Americans. permission to address the House for 1 (Mr. BROWN of Ohio asked and was f minute and to revise and extend his re- given permission to address the House marks.) for 1 minute and to revise and extend GOP MEANS GET OLD PEOPLE Mr. SANDERS. Mr. Speaker, let us his remarks.) (Mr. PALLONE asked and was given be frank. Exxon, Ford, Citibank, and Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, we permission to address the House for 1 DuPont are profitable multibillion dol- have been here before. The same folks minute and to revise and extend his re- lar corporations who pay their CEO’s who brought you the Government shut- marks.) millions of dollars in salary. These down are back. Speaker NEWT GING- Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I sup- companies do not need OPIC corporate RICH, Bob Dole, and others want a $500 port tax cuts cuts. We all support tax welfare payments from the taxpayers billion tax break, mostly for the cuts, but not when they are at the ex- of this country to provide them with wealthy. pense of Medicare. incentives to invest abroad. Incentives What does that mean? It means more We have already witnessed attempts to invest abroad. Medicare cuts, higher even than the by the Gringrich-Dole Congress over At a time when some Members of this $270 billion that the Gingrich-Dole plan the last 2 years to raid Medicare for body are proposing huge cuts in Medi- originally gave us. It means a doubling tax breaks for the rich. Democrats care, Medicaid, education, veterans of premiums. Where premiums are $46 a stood up and stopped the Republicans programs, environmental protection, it month for senior citizens for Medicare, dead in their tracks, preventing the de- is totally absurd to increase the those premiums will go to $90 or $100 a mise of Medicare as we know it. amount of corporate welfare that we month, perhaps even $110 a month, to Today, Bob Dole is back in town, provide to these huge profitable cor- pay for the tax break for the wealthy meeting with Speaker GINGRICH behind porations. that Mr. Dole and Mr. GINGRICH want closed doors, likely discussing ways to Not only is this a bad deal for tax- to bring to us. It means higher attack Medicare again for their tax payers, it is bad economic development deductibles and higher copayments for break schemes. Last year Speaker and job creation. Many of these same Medicare. It means elimination and GINGRICH and former Senator Dole pro- corporations are downsizing, laying off cutting back of the student loan pro- posed the largest Medicare cuts in his- hundreds of thousands of American gram and higher costs for those stu- tory to pay for a tax break that would workers. Our policy should not be to dent loans that still remain. have primarily benefited the wealthy. encourage these companies to invest Mr. Speaker, these tax breaks for the Mr. Speaker, it is the same old story. abroad, our policy should be to demand wealthy mean more Medicare cuts, GOP truly means get old people, again that these companies reinvest in the more student loan cuts. They are sim- and again. United States of America, in the State ply not what the public wants. f of Vermont, all over this country, and f b 1230 create decent paying jobs here. THE ARGUMENT AGAINST A RE- Let us vote no on this OPIC cor- APPOINTMENT OF CONFEREES ON TURN TO SUPPLY SIDE ECONOM- porate welfare program. H.R. 3666, DEPARTMENTS OF VET- ICS f ERANS AFFAIRS AND HOUSING (Mr. HINCHEY asked and was given AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, AND COMMITTEE ON STANDARDS OF permission to address the House for 1 INDEPENDENT AGENCIES APPRO- OFFICIAL CONDUCT SHOULD RE- minute and to revise and extend his re- PRIATIONS ACT, 1997 LEASE SPECIAL COUNSEL RE- marks.) Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Speak- PORT ON SPEAKER GINGRICH Mr. HINCHEY. Mr. Speaker, just be- er, I ask unanimous consent to take BEFORE ADJOURNMENT fore the August recess the Wall Street from the Speaker’s table the bill (H.R. (Mr. WARD asked and was given per- Journal published an op-ed urging 3666) making appropriations for the De- mission to address the House for 1 Presidential candidate Bob Dole to em- partments of Veterans Affairs and minute and to revise and extend his re- brace a return to supply side econom- Housing and Urban Development, and marks.) ics. Shortly thereafter the Journal for sundry independent agencies, Mr. WARD. Mr. Speaker, I am ap- printed a letter I authored in response boards, commissions, corporations, and palled at how my colleagues across the to that op-ed, showing that the econ- offices for the fiscal year ending Sep- aisle are misusing the powers of the omy performed better since 1992 than it tember 30, 1997, and for other purposes, Committee on Standards of Official had during the previous 12 years of sup- with Senate amendments thereto, dis- Conduct. They have stalled the review ply side economics. agree to the Senate amendments and process on a complaint about Speaker In comparing economic performance agree to the conference asked by the GINGRICH to such an extent that now under Clinton since 1992, to the Senate. they may not even address the allega- Reagan-Bush years, we find that under The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. tions at all before we adjourn this year. President Clinton the economy has CAMP). Is there objection to the request Exactly what does the Committee on grown more rapidly, employment has of the gentleman from California? Standards of Official Conduct do, if it risen at a faster rate, per capita in- There was no objection. will not report on findings? What is in come has increased more quickly, and MOTION TO INSTRUCT CONFEREES the report that they do not want the the deficit is much smaller relative to Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I offer a American people to see it? the economy. motion to instruct. The investigation has so far cost the Last month’s unemployment rate of The Clerk read as follows: American people half a million dollars. 5.1 percent provides evidence of just Mr. STOKES moves that the managers on I think these same taxpayers, as well how healthy the economy has become the part of the House be instructed to agree September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10183 to the amendments of the Senate numbered Certain opponents of this measure of the few trains to leave town and, 95, 117, and 118. may argue that small businesses can therefore, these items of great impor- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- not absorb the cost of this provision. I tance ought to be attached to this tleman from Ohio [Mr. STOKES] and the strenuously disagree with that assess- package just because there will be no gentleman from California [Mr. LEWIS] ment. The Congressional Budget Office other chance. each will control 30 minutes. estimates that private insurance pre- I wanted to be very clear, Mr. Speak- The Chair recognizes the gentleman miums will increase by only 0.4 percent er, that this is the first time, that the from Ohio [Mr. STOKES]. under the terms of this provision, of chairman of the subcommittee has had Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I yield which employers would pay only .16 a chance to even take a look at these myself such time as I may consume. percent. In addition, small businesses items. They address subject areas that Mr. Speaker, I rise to explain my mo- with 25 or fewer employees are exempt are very, very important, but they are tion to instruct House conferees on the from the provision. Also, the provision subject areas that are not germane to 1997 VA-HUD-Independent Agencies Ap- ceases to have effect if it would result our bill. They are subject areas that, propriations Act. I will be the first to in a 1 percent or greater increase in the indeed, deserve the light of day that admit that this instruction is not quite cost of a group health plan’s premiums. normally would involve our legislative the norm, but I strongly believe that I am convinced these modifications hearing process. They are very impor- circumstances and timing dictate this adequately address the concerns of tant items to the consumers who might course of action. small businesses. be impacted by these items if they The first part of my motion deals should eventually become a permanent with benefits for Vietnam Veterans’ The final part of my motion directs the House conferees to agree to the part of this bill and have it be signed children suffering from spina bifida if into law. their parents were exposed to agent or- Senate amendment, No. 117, requiring health plan coverage for a minimum Just to make a specific point regard- ange. It directs the House conferees to ing the three items, if one would just agree to the Agent Orange Benefits Act hospital stay of 48 hours for newborns and mothers following childbirth. This address oneself to the 48-hour notice added by the Senate (amendment num- regarding that which should be re- ber 95). The Senate provision is sup- provision was agreed to by a unani- mous vote in the other body. Similar quired of health insurance that is ported by the administration and is the available to people in the consuming result of research conducted by the Na- legislation in the House has the bipar- tisan support of more than 150 cospon- public. Essentially this instruction tional Academy of Sciences in response would tell the conferees by way of the to congressional direction in 1991. A re- sors. The provision makes common sense, and it often makes economic House that we should include a require- port issued by the National Academy ment of a 48-hour notice within our bill this past March updated an earlier sense. Too many times when newborn children and their mothers are dis- as it goes to the President’s desk. study presented in 1993. This year’s re- Frankly, there are lots of pros and charged from hospitals just hours after port indicated limited suggestive evi- cons to that issue. But indeed I am not birth, complications such as jaundice dence of an association between expo- sure the American public is ready to or more serious conditions require re- sure to agent orange and incidence of receive this issue in this form. Average spina bifida in offspring. Based on this hospitalization usually at greater cost. families out there, after the fact, are new study, the VA has recommended Mr. Speaker, the CBO estimates the going to realize that suddenly there is that spina bifida in veterans’ offspring only cost of this provision in 1997 is $1 a new premium added to their insur- be considered service-connected. With- million for the establishment of an ad- ance contracts because of some action out this important provision, the VA visory commission. Over the period arbitrarily taken by the House, taken lacks the authority to extend benefits 1997–2002, it is anticipated asset sales by the House without any notice to to the children of veterans. will more than offset any impact on them, taken by the House without any Although caring for the spina bifida the Federal deficit. indication as to how that will impact children will have a cost, the amend- Mr. Speaker, as I said at the outset, their future health care circumstances. ment more than compensates for those I realize this approach is somewhat Indeed, just before we broke for the expenses. By overturning the Gardner usual in that these provisions more recess, we had a health care package decision, the amendment fully pays for properly lie within the jurisdiction of move forward from the House to the the cost of treatment and benefits and the legislative committees. Were it not President. That package did not in- even returns several million dollars to for the looming adjournment date and clude this 48-hour notice item. Indeed the U.S. Treasury for deficit reduction. the shortness of time remaining in it was much too controversial for the Under the Gardner decision will still which to do our business as well as the authorizing committees to deal with at allow veterans to receive compensation broad-based support for these provi- the time. So as of this moment, we are for additional disability or death sions, I would not be urging this about to put them into this train that caused by the VA only if there is evi- course. Also, since it appears likely the is leaving town without our knowing dence the VA was at fault. It is note- VA–HUD appropriations conference re- whether the arguments in favor weigh worthy that provisions overturning the port may not offer an opportunity for on that side or the arguments against Gardner decision have been included in separate votes on these important mat- weigh on the other side. It is exactly several recent reconciliation bills. ters, this may be House Members’ only how we should not be handling appro- Since it appears highly unlikely that a chance to indicate their position on priations bills. separate reconciliation bill will be en- these issues. I must say that I am tempted to talk acted this Congress, it makes sense to For all these reasons, I strongly urge with my colleague, the gentleman from capture these savings now. my colleagues to support my motion to Ohio [Mr. STOKES], my dear friend from The second part of my motion deals instruct the VA–HUD conferees. Ohio, and ask him in great detail about with parity for mental health coverage Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of spina bifida and about mental health under group health plans. It directs the my time. parity, but frankly he and I, even in House conferees to agree to the Senate Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Speak- our own subcommittee discussions amendment, No. 118, that would re- er, I yield myself such time as I may where we talk off the record, have not quire health plans that have benefit consume. had a chance to discuss these matters. limits on medical and surgical condi- Mr. Speaker, I cannot help but re- tion is to have the same limits on men- spond or react to my colleague’s com- b 1245 tal conditions. This provision is sup- ments regarding these very, very im- Mr. Speaker, I presume he like my- ported by National Alliance for the portant matters that now, by way of a self, even though I spent a lot of years Mentally Ill, the National Mental motion to instruct, will be directed to- in the health insurance business, does Health Association, the American Psy- ward the conference on that bill that not presume expertise in these tech- chiatric Association, the American has to do with the Departments of Vet- nical policy areas. Psychological Association, and the erans Affairs, Housing, NASA, EPA, This is absolutely the wrong way to American Medical Association, among not health care. The gentleman has in- legislate, at the wrong time, in an en- others. dicated that this may very well be one vironment that will create problems H10184 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 that we are going to have to live with Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, let me ings effectively on these issues and ourselves in the months and years commend my good friend, the gen- really provided the kind of input that ahead, and the public at the other end tleman from California [Mr. LEWIS] and the legislative process ought to in- will be scratching their heads and say- his ranking member for the great job cluded. ing is this what we sent them up there they do on this very difficult appro- One more time we are asked to sup- to do? priations subcommittee dealing with so port riders at the last moment, and I Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, will many agencies and departments, and I want the Speaker and my colleagues to the gentleman yield? know it is a very difficult job. know that as I go to conference I will Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Speak- Having said that, I would just have to weigh very carefully the amount of er, I yield to the gentleman from Lou- say that there is no need for a motion input that we have received from those isiana. to instruct on the provision regarding Members who have responsibilities of Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I the Newborns and Mothers Health Pro- jurisdiction. By no way, shape or form want to compliment the gentleman on tection Act because the Republican does this reflect what I consider to be his statement. As I understand it, none leadership has already agreed to accept an obligation on my part to respond of these three issues constitute subject that provision, and we will be fighting positively to these last-minute consid- matter that would be ordinarily enter- for it. erations, which fall well outside my ju- tained by this particular bill. Tradi- Mr. Speaker, this provision is critical risdiction. tionally the VA–HUD appropriations because the well-being of newborn ba- Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of bill deals with the funding of the Vet- bies and new mothers is at stake all my time. erans’ Administration, the Department across this country. Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 of Housing and Urban Development and Mr. Speaker, we will be ashamed to minutes to the distinguished gentle- a lot of independent agencies, but this let political maneuvering getting in woman from New Jersey [Mrs. ROU- bill is not a general health bill; is it? the way of passing this vital piece of KEMA]. Mr. LEWIS of California. That is cor- legislation that is attached to the VA– (Mrs. ROUKEMA asked and was rect; is it not. HUD appropriation bill. given permission to revise and extend Mr. LIVINGSTON. If the gentleman Mr. Speaker, I have recently heard her remarks.) would yield further, it just strikes me from a gentleman in my district whose Mrs. ROUKEMA. Mr. Speaker, I as a very, very unusual procedure for 19-year-old daughter is a victim of this thank our colleague, the gentleman us to find that these totally extraneous terrible trend of drive-through deliv- from Ohio [Mr. STOKES], for presenting issues, no matter how meritorious they eries. She delivered a baby this past this motion here today, and I rise in may be, and in fact are worthy, be- April, and she was released from the strong support of the motion. I want to cause our hearts go out to anybody hospital less than 24 hours later, stress again that these issues that we with a child with spina bifida or to a kicked out of the hospital, even though are dealing with today have bipartisan mother who has left the hospital early, the baby had a severe blood disorder, support both in this House as well as in but still there are extraneous issues to the other body, and I want to also say this bill. And to be dropped on the gen- and, my colleagues, 4 days later this that on the subject of the early, dis- tleman at the last minute and be told, young 19-year-old mother had her lung charge or the so called drive-by deliv- ‘‘Well, you’ve got to consider these explode, and she has since had three ery, I really appreciate what our col- without regard to the traditional au- strokes. Tragically, she is still in the thorization process,’’ is, in fact, not hospital and will never again lead a league, the gentleman from New York the way that legislation ought to be normal life. She is a 19-year-old who [Mr. SOLOMON], has said here today, conducted. cannot even take care of her newborn and I want to endorse it. But I want to I know it is the position of the gen- baby. That is so, so pathetic. stress to all our people here that there tleman from Ohio [Mr. STOKES] that It is these examples, and there are is urgent need for medical care for the membership should vote to instruct many more, that drove me to introduce these mothers that are postpartum and the conferees on this particular issue this legislation which was subse- these newborn babies. and to go and accept what the Senate quently taken up over in the Senate Mr. Speaker, we do not keep mothers has done, but it does seem to me to the other day, sponsored by Mrs. and babies in hospitals to give them risk a great danger that we in the KASSEBAUM, Mr. FRIST, and Mr. BRAD- hotel service. They are there for medi- haste of trying to do good things in ad- LEY on a bipartisan basis, and it is cal reasons, whether it is jaundice and vance of an election all of a sudden badly, badly needed. So I would just mental retardation or hemorrhaging, adopt things, measures, in such a legis- hope that my good friend, the gen- and that has already been said very lative domain which later on prove to tleman from California [Mr. LEWIS] and well today by the gentleman from Ohio be ill advised or unwarranted or beyond the ranking member would support [Mr. STOKES]. capability to afford or within, say, a that legislation when it is taken up in But I want to go on to the second trend of increasing government direc- the conference. issue, and that is the question of men- tion that, frankly, the American people Regardless of the outcome of this tal health and the parity question tend to resent these days. vote, we must continue to fight for the under mental health. Again, I want to The whole procedure is highly sub- well-being of the most cherished popu- stress that this is a bipartisan issue. ject to question, so I just want to com- lation, these young newborns. One of the most prominent Republican mend the gentleman from California Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Speak- leaders in the other body is the author [Mr. LEWIS] for raising this issue; I er, I yield myself whatever additional of this proposal. Senator DOMENICI put agree with him. I do not know if this time I might consume. this in the Senate bill, and it is that matter were brought to a vote how it Mr. Speaker, I think most Members provision that we want protected in would turn out. I suspect that most who are focusing at all upon this dis- this motion to instruct. This discrimi- Members would be inclined to sym- cussion know full well that these riders nation against mental health medical pathize with the subject matter. But I that are being proposed by way of this treatment must end, and it must end have to stress it is my own feeling that motion to instruct are items that on now. It is the product of gross igno- this is just not the way to conduct the the surface look very, very appealing. rance and apathy, and this Congress legislative business of the United There is little doubt that it would be should go on record today against it. States of America. foolish of any of us to suggest that Members realize, as the gentleman Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Speak- Members ought to walk in here and from Ohio [Mr. STOKES], has outlined, er, I appreciate the gentleman’s com- vote knee-jerk, or otherwise, against that it is different from the original ments, and they are very helpful com- this proposal. parity issue. It releases the cap on life- ments. Having said that, I think the public time payments, and the Senate adopted Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the would be misinformed if they thought it with full support, full bipartisan sup- gentleman from New York [Mr. SOLO- this appropriations committee of our port. MON], chairman of the Committee on authorizing committees of jurisdiction But again I want to say that this Rules. had reviewed these issues, held hear- should not be viewed here today as a September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10185 partisan issue, and I believe, and here I This motion also includes a provision could very well have been discussed believe strongly and congratulate the that will insure that mothers and thoroughly. But suddenly in this mo- gentleman from Ohio [Mr. STOKES], newborns receive adequate hospital tion to instruct we have a package here that the campaign rhetoric must stop coverage during the critical time fol- that, over time, is going to cost a mini- and we must do something here and lowing a delivery. We have all read the mum of $110 million. We have identi- now for the American people, hard- tragic stories of women and babies fied ways to pay for it without any working families, on issues that count, forced from the hospital before they kind of thorough review. and this definitely is it. The fictions were ready to go because of the in- One of the suggestions, as indicated and the ignorance about mental health creasing number of health insurers lim- by the other body, is that we might sell treatment, the actual return of pay- iting hospital coverage to 24 hours or Governor’s Island, a little spot in New ment, return of payment to the em- less. I know as a mother of three grown York that is of interest to some of my ployers, and to the work and productiv- children how very important this time colleagues. I am not sure if the Mem- ity is very apparent, everyone knows is to a new mother. The Bradley bers who have had the Governor’s Is- it, and we must stop the fiction sur- amendment mandates minimum hos- land near their territory have been rounding this and tell those people pital coverage of 48 hours for a normal consulted at all. I think probably not. that have projected huge costs that delivery and 96 hours for cesarean sec- My colleague, the gentlewoman from they are unrealistic and they really do tion. The standards are set by the New York [Ms. MOLINARI], indicated to not know what they are talking about. American College of Obstetricians and me that there had been very little con- With that, I thank my colleague from Gynocologists and the American Acad- sultation as far as she personally is Ohio for having yielded this time to emy of Pediatrics. This provision does concerned. I understand Governor’s Is- me. not mandate how long any single pa- land may be in another Member’s dis- In my State of New Jersey, our Governor, tient should remain in the hospital but trict. If I asked him, I am sure he was Christine Todd Whitman, has already signed a assures that the decision about what is not consulted about that transfer. 48-hour minimum hospitalization proposal into best for each mother and baby’s health Further, there is another little item law, and it has been very well received by the is made by the patient and her doctor that makes up a big part of that pack- public. and not by an inflexible insurance pol- age. We are going to sell the airspace I want my colleagues to realize that the lat- icy. rights above Union Station as a mecha- est version of mental health parity is a very Finally this motion takes us another nism for providing funding for this new modest requirement that health insurance step toward improving the health secu- solution that the House must face as companies provide equal coverage for phys- rity of hard-working Americans and we try to conclude this bill that is the ical and mental illness in their annual caps their families. Sadly the health insur- only train leaving town. It is not the and lifetime capsÐthat's all. Nothing more, ance reform bill passed earlier this way to carry forward our business, Mr. nothing less. summer did not include a simple provi- Speaker. Indeed, I do not feel obligated In other words, insurance carriers can no sion to insure that mental health bene- to follow the letter of this procedural longer impose dramatically lower annual or fits are treated like other health bene- motion, as this chairman goes forward. lifetime limits for mental illness coverage than fits. Not long before the Senate unani- Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of those which they offer for physical ailments. my time. Today, I will be introducing the House com- mously approved mental health parity, Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I am panion bill to the Domenici-Wellstone bill with and nearly 100 of my colleagues in the pleased to yield 3 minutes to the dis- a bipartisan coalition of Members who share House signed a letter to the Speaker in tinguished gentlewoman from Mary- my view that the flagrant discrimination health support of it. Yet when the final bill land [Mrs. MORELLA]. insurance companies engage in with respect reached the floor it was gone; shame on Mrs. MORELLA. Mr. Speaker, I real- to treating mental illness must come to an this House. ly appreciate the time being allocated end. Retaining this modest proposal begins With this motion to recommit we to me by the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. that process. have a second chance to end discrimi- Both the Bradley-Frist and Domenici- nation against mental illness and help STOKES] and the fact that he has spon- Wellstone amendments were overwhelmingly remove its stigma. Mr. Speaker, we sored what I consider to be a very im- approved by the Senate, and I believe that must not let this opportunity to do portant motion to instruct the con- these amendments would enjoy similar levels what is right slip away yet again. I ferees on the bill. of support in the House provided that they are urge my colleagues to support this mo- I have always respected the work he retained in the final conference committee. tion. has done, and I do want this body to Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Speak- know of my great respect for the gen- minutes to the distinguished gentle- er, I have no further requests for time, tleman from California [Mr. LEWIS], woman from New York [Mrs. LOWEY]. but I will yield myself 2 minutes by who chairs the subcommittee and who Mrs. LOWEY. Mr. Speaker, at the way of closing to make a minor point. has done such an exemplary job and is outset I want to thank the gentleman Mr. Speaker, I think the House so humane. from California [Mr. LEWIS] and the should know that this motion to in- This particular motion would include gentleman from Ohio [Mr. STOKES], my struct does involve a number of very three critical and humane provisions good friends, for their really outstand- important policy areas, instructing the that have been incorporated by our col- ing work on this bill. House to take action as conferees deal- leagues in the other body. I think they Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support ing with the other body. In the area of do have bipartisan support. There is no of this motion which includes 3 provi- mental parity, for example, there are doubt about it. sions that are critically needed by some very real costs that are involved. First, it would incorporate the men- American families. One of the provi- While in the 1997 year those costs are tal health parity compromise that was sions included in this motion will pro- difficult to measure over a period of 5 accepted by the Senate. This com- vide health care, vocational rehabilita- years, there will be an absolute cost of promise is a critical step towards fi- tion and compensation to Vietnam vet- somewhere near 550 millions of dollars. nally treating mental illness like the erans and their families who are deal- disease it is. I heard from the President b ing with the effects of exposure to 1300 of the American Psychological Asso- agent orange. A recent report by the That would be a cost obligation ex- ciation, Dr. Eist, who testified before National Academy of Sciences showed tended forward without any discussions the Civil Service Subcommittee last a link between Vietnam veterans’ expo- at the authorizing committee level, week on mental health parity. He em- sure to agent orange and the occur- and without any real debate or light of phasized what we already know: Men- rence of spina bifida in their children. day in terms of the pros and cons relat- tal illness is treatable, and treating This provision will give the families of ed to that very important subject area. mental illness saves money and in- our proud veterans the support they As we deal with questions that relate creases productivity. need to care for their children suffering to the newborn, a similar problem. Mr. Speaker, this compromise is real- from spina bifida as a result of their These are issues that through the ap- ly quite modest. It provides parity for military service. propriate authorizing committees annual and lifetime caps. It includes a H10186 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 provision included by Senator GRAHAM portant language because, while we I have to say that, even though there to ensure that it will not cause pre- were not able to get parity in the are a number of States like New Jersey miums to rise by more than 1 percent. health reform legislation that passed increasingly that are passing State In light of the last CBO report that es- this year, we do have a chance at lim- laws for minimum hospital stays for timated that premiums will rise less ited parity this year. I would urge my newborns, there are also a lot of loop- than one-sixth that amount, I think it colleagues to support that. holes. is highly unlikely we would ever reach Mr. Speaker, are there good reasons For example, in New Jersey, where a that ceiling. why? Let me give the Members some lot of people work in New York City or Second, the motion incorporates the statistics why this is so important. work in Philadelphia, many times the 48-hour postpartum care provision that Mental illnesses and disorders cost our insurance coverage is excepted from has been discussed. I am a cosponsor on society over $270 billion annually each the State law because the person, the House side of the Solomon version year in lost productivity and treat- mother or father in this case, works of that very important bill. I would ment costs. Roughly almost 20 percent out of State. like very much to see it in the VA– of our adults in this country suffer In addition, some of the insurance HUD bill. As managed care becomes in- from mental or addictive disorders in companies that are based out of New creasingly prevalent, we are seeing any 6-month period, but only 20 per- Jersey have claimed that they do not mothers and their newborns in and out cent of the 20 percent, one out of five, have to abide by New Jersey’s law with of the hospital in as short a time as 12 will get any kind of treatment. regard to minimum hospital stay. We hours. Seven and one-half million American do need Federal legislation. Let no one Many illnesses in newborns are not children are plagued by mental dis- suggest this can be handled strictly by detectable until the first 48 hours. orders, such as depression, autism, and the States. It cannot. We do need Fed- Those first 2 days are absolutely criti- learning disabilities. In 1985 and only 30 eral legislation to guarantee minimum cal. Guidelines of the American Pedi- cents was spent on research for every stays for mothers with newborn chil- atric Association and ACOG specify $100 of costs imposed by mental dis- dren. Mr. Speaker, I just want to relate my that mothers should stay in the hos- orders. Let me repeat that; 30 cents own experience with this situation. pital for 48 hours for normal delivery was spent on research for every $1,300 Both of my children were born by C- and 96 for cesarean delivery. This pro- of costs imposed by mental disorders. section. When my daughter, who just vision would ensure that this happens. In comparison, 73 cents and $1.63 re- turned 3 years old, was born, our insur- My State of Maryland has enacted spectively were spent on research for ance company, our policy, allowed for 4 similar legislation. Although many in- every $100 of costs in heart disease and days for a C-section. But when my son surers are finding loopholes to get cancer. was born, he is now 18 months, the pol- around it, it is having a very positive Insurance programs, including Medi- icy had changed. The insurance com- effect on those who are now able to care, continue to discriminate against pany only allowed 2 days for a C-sec- stay the full 48 hours, and federally individuals with mental illness by re- tion. this would enhance what the State has quiring a higher copayment than other Some people say it is up to the doc- done. services. In my own State of West Vir- tor, the doctor can always make an ex- Third, this motion to instruct would ginia, we found that almost 42,000 West ception. But what happens in these include the agent orange spina bifida Virginians receive some type of mental cases is that the doctors are basically provision. Surely our Government health treatment. There are 1.8 million told by the insurance companies that, should be responsible for the health people in West Virginia. In other if they make an exception and let the care of children with spina bifida if one words, only 2.3 percent are getting any child or mother stay an extra day or of their parents was exposed to agent kind of treatment. two, then they are basically penalized. orange during the Vietnam war. It is Mr. Speaker, this is crucial legisla- They are told, if this continues, they the only responsible and humane thing tion. It is not enough. I am very grate- may lose their hospital privileges or to do. ful for the gentlewoman from New Jer- they may not be covered anymore. I urge my colleagues to pass the mo- sey, Mrs. MARGE ROUKEMA, chair of the We were basically told we only had tion. mental health working group, who the 2 days for my son. What happened Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I am with the gentleman from Oregon, Mr. is just before he was to be released pleased to yield 3 minutes to the dis- PETER DEFAZIO and myself, have co- from the hospital they found that he tinguished gentleman from West Vir- chaired that organization, a bipartisan had jaundice, so they let him stay. ginia [Mr. WISE]. organization. I am thinking back to They let my wife and him stay another Mr. WISE. Mr. Speaker, I thank the Syl Conte, who for so many years day, for the third day. But that is an gentleman from Ohio [Mr. STOKES] for fought for the decade of the brain, and excellent example of the type of dis- yielding time to me. all the gains that has brought those orders that can be found, or that are I rise in favor of this motion to in- suffering from mental disabilities and not found unless a child stays the extra struct on all three provisions, which I mental afflictions. day. Jaundice is something that is not think are vital; but, if I could speak to The fact of the matter is that this is discovered very quickly, and many the one dealing with mental health money well spent, and this is impor- times children and mothers who are re- parity, I think this is crucial legisla- tant legislation. I urge Members to leased from the hospitals go home and tion. Let me give the Members some support the motion to instruct. they found that they have jaundice, examples why. Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I am and they have to come back into the Currently many insurance policies leased to yield 3 minutes to the gen- hospital again. have lifetime caps of $1 million for var- tleman from New Jersey [Mr. I am very supportive of this legisla- ious diseases: cancer, heart, et cetera. PALLONE]. tion and this motion to instruct. There However, the lifetime limits for mental Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I also is no question in my mind that moth- illness are often set at $50,000 or less; $1 rise in favor of this motion to instruct. ers should have at least 48 hours for a million here, $50,000 here. Additionally, I agree, of course, with all three provi- normal delivery and they should have insurance plans impose annual caps of sions that are being specified here. But the 4 days for a C-section. It is the only sometimes $10,000 or less on treatments I particularly want to make reference right thing to do. The choice should be of mental illness, but these caps are in support of the newborn and mother’s with the mother and the doctor, not usually not imposed on other medical health, with a 48-hour minimum hos- with the insurance company. I fully conditions. pital stay, addressing the so-called support this motion to instruct. What happens then is that these lim- drive-through delivery problem that Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I am its on mental illness cause individuals increasingly we see around the country pleased to yield 3 minutes to the gen- not to seek the treatment or to pay out with various insurance companies. tlewoman from California [Ms. PELOSI], of pocket. They must rely on public My own State of New Jersey requires a highly respected and hardworking mental health facilities, or if they can a minimum stay of 48 hours for normal member of the Committee on Appro- afford it, to pay themselves. This is im- delivery and 4 days for a C-section. But priations. September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10187 Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Speaker, I thank erage to 24 hours. This attempt to That is as it should be, because that the gentleman for yielding time to me. limit coverage is associated with in- is also in keeping with the manner in Mr. Speaker, I am grateful to Mr. creased complications requiring women which I try to work on the subcommit- STOKES for presenting this motion to to have to return to the hospital, so tee with the chairman of this particu- instruct conferees on the VA–HUD ap- they are not saving any money. I will lar subcommittee, a man for whom I propriations bill. As Members know, submit for the record an example have the highest regard and whom I and others have attested to, the mo- which I have received from my con- deem to be a good friend and with tion instructs the conferees to agree to stituent, as I urge my colleagues to whom I have enjoyed working. It is in three meritorious Senate provisions. give our babies a healthy start and our that vein that I am working with him The first is the Daschle amendment, mothers a good start, too, on that won- and look forward to working with him which would authorize the VA to pro- derful adventure of motherhood and in conference to bring back to the vide benefits to children born with support the Stokes motion to instruct. House a bill that both he and I will spina bifida if one of the parents was Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 continue to support, as I supported the exposed to agent orange during the minutes to the gentleman from Califor- bill which he brought to the floor a Vietnam war. nia [Mr. WAXMAN], the distinguished month or so ago. Working with JERRY Spina bifida is a debilitating birth ranking member on the Subcommittee LEWIS is one of the finest experiences I defect resulting when the fetus’s spine on Health and Environment of the have had in the House, and I want to fails to form properly. Fortunately, we Committee on Commerce. continue and will continue working can help improve the lives of the chil- Mr. WAXMAN. Mr. Speaker, I thank with him on that bipartisan type of dren involved, with the benefits. the gentleman very much for yielding basis. Mr. Speaker, this is a very important me some time so I could speak in favor I said originally that the procedure provision. of the motion to instruct the conferees. here does deviate somewhat from the The second provision is the Domen- Mr. Speaker, we have an opportunity norm. I wish that we had had more ici-Wellstone amendment to begin the to remedy a serious mistake this House time for he and I to sit down and dis- important process of increasing cov- made when we failed to act to assure cuss this, but in working with the lead- erage for treatment of mental ill- parity of treatment for mental health ership on this side, I gave him notices nesses. This limited provision simply care benefits in earlier legislation. as quickly as I could do so. I apologize requires any group health insurance There is simply no excuse for the con- to him personally for any inconven- that covers mental illness to provide tinued discrimination against people the same amounts on annual and life- ience that caused him in any respect. with mental health problems. I hope that the Members of the House time coverage that the plan provides The Republican majority refused to will vote on these three very important for physical illness. allow the inclusion of the Domenici- issues. This is the only opportunity Much more needs to be done to en- Wellstone compromise in the con- that our body has had to endorse these sure equity for coverage for mental ill- ference agreement on the Kennedy- ness, but this is a good beginning. Any- Kassebaum health insurance port- very important issues. I think it is im- one who has had mental illness in their ability bill. It was wrong then, and it portant that we go to conference hav- families can attest to the importance would be compounding the error to ing been instructed by the House on of moving toward a more equitable in- refuse it again. the importance of these three issues on surance coverage. The pain caused by The losers because of our failure to a bipartisan basis to all of the Amer- mental illness is immense. The loss to act are the American people. It is every ican people. I urge my colleagues to productivity is staggering. We need to person and every family who has support this motion to instruct the do more, and we need to do it now. known the tragedy of struggling with conferees. Next, I come to the third area, where mental illness and having no adequate Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Speak- Congress by this motion to instruct has insurance coverage for the services er, I yield myself such time as I may the opportunity to end the shameful needed to treat it. consume. practice of drive-through deliveries. I The proposal before us is a modified Mr. Speaker, in making an effort to feel most comfortable talking about one that only assures parity for mental conclude this discussion, I just wanted this issue, I say proudly to the gen- health benefits in terms of annual and to mention for the record that the mo- tion to instruct is quite unusual. It in- tleman from Ohio [Mr. STOKES] and the lifetime limits on benefits. It is afford- volves three areas that are really new gentleman from California [Mr. LEWIS], able, it is necessary, it is right. We as the mother of five children, and soon cannot say no again to taking this to this subcommittee, areas that really to be grandmother. I see the difference vital, important step. do not involve our field of jurisdiction. in how mothers were treated when they Let us send a clear and strong mes- They were included because it is an went to the hospital to have babies sage to our conferees to adopt this pro- election year and these items are of when I had my children, and what my vision and bring some fairness and concern to many groups out there, and daughter faces now, and many other sense to our treatment of mental it does sound like good policy. young women face now. health benefits. I hope that all Mem- The public should know that if these Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlemen bers will instruct the conferees to go provisions become law, there are very that we are privileged to serve with in along with this provision, and that the significant implications in terms of the this body should all listen to the conferees come back with a rec- premiums that consumers and busi- women on this issue. When it comes to ommendation to use this opportunity nesses would have to pay across the delivering babies, we know of what we to put in these provisions, to move country to meet this new mandate speak. We have been there. We have down the track to assuring what ought from the Federal Government. Uncle done that. Twenty-four hours simply to be complete parity between mental Sam is not giving us anything for free may not be enough in many cases. and physical health insurance cov- in this process. I have received a great deal of mail erage. Having said that, I do know a little from my constituents on this subject, Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I yield bit about some of this subject area be- so I do not speak only from personal myself the balance of my time. cause of my own professional back- experience, but from the pleas of new The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. ground in the life and health insurance mothers for more coverage. The Brad- CAMP). The gentleman from Ohio is business. I am very disconcerted that ley amendment would require insur- recognized for 31⁄2 minutes. we would even be considering these ance companies to cover at least 48 Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, this mo- measures in this form without giving hours of hospitalization for a conven- tion to instruct, although offered by them the kind of serious hearings by tional delivery and at least 96 hours for our side of the House, is certainly of- committees of jurisdictions that they a cesarean section. fered in a bipartisan manner. I think it truly deserve. is evident that it has strong bipartisan My colleague from California who b 1315 support by virtue of the fact that I spoke earlier, HENRY WAXMAN, and I In California 1 out of every 6 births have yielded both to Members on this have worked together for many, many are covered by insurers limiting cov- side and the other side of the aisle. a year. He is a very talented Member, H10188 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 without a doubt. Yet over the years ing in response to congressional resolve on The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without when he was the chairman of the sub- this matter, except organize opposition to such objection, the previous question is or- committee that did have responsibility coverage. dered on the motion to instruct. in these areas, I did not see measures Today Congress has the chance to require There was no objection. coming forth from that subcommittee insurance companies to pay for appropriate The SPEAKER pro tempore. The reflecting those expressions that we maternity stays for mothers and their question is on the motion to instruct heard today on the floor. newborns by supporting the motion to instruct offered by the gentleman from Ohio Indeed, it is very close to election, on the VA±HUD bill. I encourage my col- [Mr. STOKES]. only 8 weeks away. At this point in leagues to support the motion to instruct and The question was taken; and the time, I believe, as the House votes on stand with American families. Speaker pro tempore announced that this, all the Members will understand Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Speaker, I the ayes appeared to have it. that we will go to conference on these rise in strong support of the motion offered by Mr. STOKES. Mr. Speaker, I object issues that are not under the jurisdic- Mr. STOKES, particularly with regard to two im- to the vote on the ground that a tion of this subcommittee. portant provisions that will have great benefits quorum is not present and make the GENERAL LEAVE for American familiesÐthe provisions to pro- point of order that a quorum is not Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Speak- tect new mothers and their infants by ensuring present. er, I ask unanimous consent that all minimum maternity benefits; and provisions The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evi- Members may have 5 legislative days that begin to address the very serious problem dently a quorum is not present. within which to revise and extend their of health insurance discrimination against per- The Sergeant at Arms will notify ab- remarks on H.R. 3666, and that I may sons with mental illness. sent Members. I was the first Member of Congress to intro- include tabular and extraneous mate- The vote was taken by electronic de- duce legislation to stop drive-through deliv- rial. vice, and there were—yeas 392, nays 17, eries when it became apparent in my home The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there not voting 24, as follows: objection to the request of the gen- State of California, where managed care is widely used, that short hospital stays for ma- [Roll No. 407] tleman from California? YEAS—392 There was no objection. ternity was a good way to save insurers Abercrombie Clyburn Frelinghuysen Mr. SANDERS. Mr. Speaker, today Con- money. Such short stays were having serious consequences for the health and well-being of Ackerman Coble Frisa gress has the opportunity to put an end to the Allard Coburn Frost insidious practice of insurance companies new mothers and their babies, and it was Andrews Coleman Funderburk clear that legislation was needed to prescribe Archer Collins (GA) Furse sending moms and babes home before they Armey Collins (MI) Gallegly are ready to go. a minimum period for insurance coverage to stop insurers from dictating what should be a Bachus Combest Gejdenson Hurried discharges after childbirth fly in the Baesler Condit Gekas face of established medical practice, insult the medical decision. At least 29 States have Baker (CA) Conyers Gephardt precious institution of motherhood, and greatly agreed and adopted such laws or regulations. Baker (LA) Costello Gibbons We must guarantee that this minimum Baldacci Cox Gilchrest increase the likelihood that newborn babies standard be applied nationally, and include so- Ballenger Coyne Gillmor could suffer irreversible brain damage or re- Barcia Cramer Gilman called ERISA plans, and the only way we can quire emergency medical care for illnesses Barr Crane Gonzalez do this is through the amendment to the VA± Barrett (NE) Crapo Goodlatte within hours or days after discharge. These HUD appropriations bill that was adopted Barrett (WI) Cremeans Goodling abbreviated stays also put mothers at risk. unanimously by the Senate under the able Bartlett Cubin Gordon Mothers and doctors are not seeking cad- Barton Cummings Goss leadership of Senator BRADLEY. The gen- illac health care coverage, they are merely de- Bass Cunningham Green (TX) tleman from New York [Mr. SOLOMON], and I Bateman Danner Greene (UT) manding similar coverage to that received by join in a bipartisan effort to promote the Brad- Becerra Davis Greenwood mothers and infants in every other industri- Beilenson Deal Gunderson ley/Kassebaum/Frist babies legislation that alized nation on Earth. Bentsen DeFazio Gutierrez was moving in the Senate and in the House Bereuter DeLauro Gutknecht Efforts by insurers to arbitrarily limit mater- by jointly sponsoring H.R. 3226. At last count, Berman Dellums Hall (OH) nity stays for mothers and newborns should 111 of you have signed on to this bill, and the Bevill Deutsch Hall (TX) be of concern to all of us. Decisions on how Bilbray Diaz-Balart Hamilton President has repeatedly urged its adoption. long mothers and newborns should stay in the Bishop Dickey Hansen As far as the mental health parity provisions Bliley Dicks Harman hospital should be made by doctors and pa- are concerned, they are an important first step Blumenauer Dingell Hastert tients together based upon medical and health to equalize health insurance plan coverage for Blute Dixon Hastings (FL) care needs and not primarily by the short-term Boehlert Doggett Hastings (WA) the treatment of mental illnesses and other Boehner Dooley Hayworth business predictions of shortsighted health in- medical conditions. The evidence is clear: se- Bonilla Dornan Hefley surance providers. vere mental illness is every bit as debilitating Bonior Doyle Hefner Mr. Speaker, the former CEO of U.S. and treatable as physical illnesses. When is Bono Dreier Hilliard Healthcare, Leonard Abramson, earned $20 Borski Duncan Hinchey this country going to stop the unfounded preju- Boucher Dunn Hobson million in a single year. Following the recent dice against the mentally ill? When are insur- Brewster Durbin Hoekstra acquisition of U.S. Healthcare by Aetna, Mr. ers going to stop perpetuating this myth that Browder Edwards Hoke Abramson made a personal profit of approxi- Brown (CA) Ehrlich Holden coverage for mental illness will somehow Brown (OH) Engel Horn mately $1 billion. With an additional night in break the bank and that this somehow justifies Brownback English Hostettler the hospital for a mother and her child costing insurance discrimination against millions of Bryant (TN) Ensign Hoyer between $700 to $1100, Mr. Abramson's take citizens? The Senate has seen the light on Bryant (TX) Eshoo Hunter home pay and bonus could provide as many Bunn Evans Hutchinson this issue and has voted three times this Con- Bunning Everett Hyde as 1,020,000 babies and their mothers an gress for mental health parity. While the provi- Burr Ewing Inglis extra night in the hospital. To put it another sions most recently adopted in H.R. 3666 do Burton Farr Jackson (IL) way, one man's salary and bonus is enough to Buyer Fattah Jackson-Lee not go as far as I would have preferred, I do Callahan Fawell (TX) provide one-quarter of all the babies born in believe they establish a critical new protection Calvert Fazio Jacobs America and their moms an extra night in the for individuals who suffer from mental illness Camp Fields (LA) Jefferson hospital. who need catastrophic insurance coverage, Canady Fields (TX) Johnson (SD) In August of 1995, the House of Represent- Cardin Filner Johnson, E. B. and for their families. Castle Flake Johnson, Sam atives passed a resolution that I introduced I am happy that the gentleman from Ohio Chabot Flanagan Jones which called upon the insurance industry as a has brought the attention of the House to Chambliss Foglietta Kanjorski whole to abide by the established discharge these important provisions that were added to Chapman Foley Kaptur guidelines of the American College of Obstetri- Chenoweth Forbes Kasich H.R. 3666 by the other body, and urge my col- Christensen Ford Kelly cians and Gynecologists an the American leagues to support his effort. Chrysler Fowler Kennedy (MA) Academy of Pediatrics until there is clear and Mr. LEWIS of California. Mr. Speak- Clay Fox Kennedy (RI) convincing evidence to demonstrate a need er, I have no further requests for time, Clayton Frank (MA) Kennelly Clement Franks (CT) Kildee for a change in these guidelines. Unfortu- and I yield back the balance of my Clinger Franks (NJ) Kim nately, the insurance industry has done noth- time. September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10189 King Myrick Sisisky PERSONAL EXPLANATION Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield Kingston Nadler Skaggs C Kleczka Neal Skeen Ms. M CARTHY. Mr. Speaker, during roll- myself such time as I may consume. Klink Nethercutt Skelton call vote No. 407, the motion to instruct con- (Mr. CONYERS asked and was given Klug Neumann Slaughter ferees on H.R. 3666, I was unavoidably de- permission to revise and extend his re- Kolbe Ney Smith (MI) tained. Had I been present, I would have marks.) LaFalce Nussle Smith (NJ) LaHood Oberstar Smith (TX) voted ``aye.'' I ask unanimous consent that my Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, the mo- Lantos Obey Smith (WA) statement appear in the RECORD immediately tion I am offering would instruct con- Latham Olver Souder following rollcall vote No. 407. ferees to retain the provisions in the LaTourette Ortiz Spence Senate-passed bill that provides for 350 Laughlin Orton Spratt b 1345 Lazio Owens Stark additional Department of Labor wage Leach Oxley Stearns The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. and hour inspectors and staff to en- Levin Packard Stenholm DREIER). Without objection, the Chair force violations of the Federal wage Lewis (GA) Pallone Stockman appoints the following conferees: Mr. and hour laws. It is no more com- Lewis (KY) Parker Stokes LEWIS of California, Mr. DELAY, Mrs. Lightfoot Paxon Studds plicated and no less simple than that. Lincoln Payne (NJ) Stupak VUCANOVICH, and Messrs. WALSH, HOB- The reason is that the cornerstone of Linder Payne (VA) Talent SON, KNOLLENBERG, FRELINGHUYSEN, our efforts to control immigration Lipinski Pelosi Tanner NEUMANN, LIVINGSTON, STOKES, MOLLO- Livingston Peterson (FL) Tate must be to shut off the job magnet that LoBiondo Peterson (MN) Tauzin HAN, CHAPMAN, Ms. KAPTUR, and Mr. draws so many undocumented aliens Lofgren Petri Taylor (MS) OBEY. into the country. Increasing border pa- Longley Pickett Taylor (NC) There was no objection. trols is of course important, but that Lowey Pombo Tejeda f Lucas Pomeroy Thompson can be done through the appropriations Luther Porter Thornberry IMMIGRATION IN THE NATIONAL process, as we have been doing for the Maloney Poshard Thornton INTEREST ACT OF 1996 last 2 years. But it is imperative that Manton Pryce Thurman we enhance the authority to prosecute Manzullo Quillen Tiahrt Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, those employers who knowingly hire il- Markey Quinn Torres pursuant to clause 1 of rule XX, and by Martinez Radanovich Torricelli legal workers instead of American direction of the Committee on the Ju- Martini Rahall Towns workers. Mascara Ramstad Traficant diciary, I move to take from the For example, we know that each year Matsui Rangel Upton Speaker’s table the bill (H.R. 2202) to McCollum Reed Velazquez more than 100,000 foreign workers enter McCrery Regula Vento amend the Immigration and National- the work force by overstaying their McDade Richardson Visclosky ity Act to improve deterrence of illegal McDermott Rivers Volkmer visas. No amount of border enforce- immigration to the United States by ment will deter this, since they enter McHale Roberts Vucanovich increasing border patrol and investiga- McHugh Roemer Walker legally with passports and visas. No McInnis Rogers Walsh tive personnel, by increasing penalties amount of border enforcement will McIntosh Ros-Lehtinen Wamp for alien smuggling and for document deter the desire, the magnet that draws McKeon Rose Ward fraud, by reforming exclusion and de- McKinney Roth Waters people into this country, and that is to Meehan Roukema Watt (NC) portation law and procedures, by im- seek jobs. The only way to deter this Meek Roybal-Allard Watts (OK) proving the verification system for eli- Menendez Royce Waxman form of illegal immigration is in the gibility for employment, and through workplace, by denying them jobs. Metcalf Rush Weldon (FL) other measures, to reform the legal im- Meyers Sabo Weldon (PA) Case in point: In the 14-month-old Mica Salmon Weller migration system and facilitate legal Detroit newspaper dispute we have re- Millender- Sanders White entries into the United States, and for ports of illegal immigrants, not re- McDonald Sanford Whitfield other purposes, with a Senate amend- Miller (CA) Sawyer Wicker placement workers from within the Miller (FL) Saxton Williams ment thereto, disagree to the Senate United States, but people without a Minge Schaefer Wise amendment, and agree to the con- valid passport, no right in this country, Mink Schiff Wolf ference asked by the Senate. are coming in and they have been in- Moakley Schroeder Woolsey The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the Molinari Schumer Wynn vestigated, INS is conducting inves- Montgomery Seastrand Yates gentleman from Texas wish to debate tigations on them. It is a serious incur- Moorhead Sensenbrenner Young (AK) the motion to go to conference? sion and a serious charge and it is Moran Serrano Young (FL) Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, being investigated by INS now, but this Morella Shaw Zimmer this is the customary request which Murtha Shays gives reason for the instruction motion will enable us to go to conference on Myers Shuster that I would urge that we adopt in as this important bill. NAYS—17 large a number as possible. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance We must enhance the authority to Campbell Hancock Rohrabacher of my time, and I move the previous Cooley Herger Scarborough prosecute employers who knowingly question on the motion. DeLay Johnson (CT) Shadegg hire illegal workers instead of Amer- Doolittle Knollenberg Stump The previous question was ordered. Ehlers Largent Thomas The SPEAKER pro tempore. The ican workers, and there can be no Geren Lewis (CA) question is on the motion offered by doubt that an increased number of Labor Department inspectors will re- NOT VOTING—24 the gentleman from Texas [Mr. SMITH]. The motion was agreed to. duce the possibility that employers Bilirakis Hilleary Pastor will hire illegal workers. The Jordan Brown (FL) Houghton Portman MOTION TO INSTRUCT OFFERED BY MR. CONYERS Collins (IL) Istook Riggs Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I offer a Commission, remembering the late de la Garza Johnston Scott motion to instruct conferees. Barbara Jordan, recommended this in- Ganske McCarthy Solomon crease, since studies show that most Graham McNulty Torkildsen The Clerk read as follows: employers who hire illegal workers Hayes Mollohan Wilson Mr. CONYERS moves that the managers on Heineman Norwood Zeliff the part of the House at the conference on also violate labor standards. the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on This goes together. We want to deal b 1345 the Senate amendment to the bill H.R. 2202 with this problem and the only way is be instructed to recede to the provisions con- to move to the Senate-passed version Messrs. KNOLLENBERG, THOMAS, tained in section 105 (relating to increased that authorizes 350 additional inspec- and LEWIS of California changed their personnel levels for the Labor Department). tors to enforce these violations or al- vote from ‘‘yea’’ to ‘‘nay.’’ The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- leged violations of Federal Wage and Messrs. CRAPO, CHRYSLER, and tleman from Michigan [Mr. CONYERS] hour laws. SMITH of Michigan changed their vote will be recognzied for 30 minutes, and The report of the Jordan Commission from ‘‘nay’’ to ‘‘yea.’’ the gentleman from Texas [Mr. SMITH] concluded with this statement: The So the motion was agreed to. will be recognized for 30 minutes. commission believes that an effective The result of the vote was announced The Chair recognizes the gentleman work site strategy for deterring illegal as above recorded. from Michigan [Mr. CONYERS]. immigration requires enhancement of H10190 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 labor standards enforcement. Now, I b 1400 ficult problem for our country, the expect that the 350 additional inspec- And it will reduce the number of problem being immigration and illegal tors would be used to enhance enforce- criminal aliens and the flow of illegal immigration, has at this stage, I think ment of labor standards in those areas drugs into our country. it is fair to say, degenerated into a bill where high concentrations of illegals The bill adopts the most comprehen- that is now going to be a partisan con- are employed. sive overhaul of our deportation sys- trivance designed to somehow isolate In fiscal years 1993 through 1995, the tem in this century. Deportation proce- certain Members and make them sub- Department of Labor recovered nearly dures are streamlined, and opportuni- ject to political attacks and maybe try $60 million in unpaid minimum wages ties for illegal aliens and criminal to do the same thing to the President. I heard the comments of the gen- for more than a quarter of a million aliens to ‘‘game the system’’ in order tleman from Texas [Mr. SMITH] a mo- workers and another $300 million in un- to stay in the United States disappear. ment ago about the difficulties this paid overtime for more than a half mil- Aliens who show up with no documents country faces with immigration. I lion additional workers. to legitimately enter the United States More can be accomplished with these agree with every one of the things he will be quickly turned back, rather additional personnel. And just as im- said. But the problem is that the bill, than be given lengthy immigration portantly, increased enforcement will apparently, the conference committee hearings to which a vast majority new help level the playing field for those proposal that will be taken up tomor- show up. honest employers who play by the rules row, the provisions within it do not ad- H.R. 2202 also tackles the pressing and hire American workers and pay dress the problems. It is just that sim- problem of immigration and welfare. them a fair wage. ple. So all of the Members who like to Our official national policy for almost Consider this: Much has been made of talk about preventing illegal immigra- a century has been that aliens should the Jordan commission report because tion, please, let us all repair to this not be admitted to or remain in the of the enormous credibility Barbara motion to instruct. It is an important United States if they become a ‘‘public Jordan has in this country and in this one, it is critical for maintaining good charge’’—dependent on welfare. institution. This bill was advertised Today, that presumption is turned labor standards in this country, and I over and over, both by me back when I upside down. Noncitizens receive a dis- ask my colleagues to join with me in was proud to cosponsor it because at voting yes on a more tough and effec- proportionate share of welfare benefits that time I think it was a constructive in large States such as California. tive workplace enforcement. action, Mr. SMITH and others, as a bill Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of When all types of benefits are included, designed to implement the bipartisan my time. immigrants receive $25 billion more in recommendations of the Jordan com- Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I benefits than they pay in taxes. The mission. Yet on point after point after yield myself such time as I may number of immigrants on Supple- point, the bill has abandoned those im- consume, and I rise in opposition to the mental Security Income increases by 50 portant provisions and yet kept the motion to instruct conferees. percent each year. We cannot continue name and the implied sponsorship of a The appointment of House conferees down this road. great woman who led a commission for H.R. 2202 marks another important America’s generosity towards those that did a very good job. juncture on the road to immigration immigrants who want to work and The most recent apparent abandon- reform. Hopefully it also means that produce and contribute will continue. ment of those provisions is the fact the final destination is very close. But we should not admit immigrants that the Jordan commission observed The Immigration in the National In- who will live off the American tax- that studies show that most employers terest Act is just what it says, an effort payers. hiring illegal workers also violate to fundamentally reorient national im- H.R. 2202 ensures that sponsors of im- labor standards. Accordingly, the Jor- migration policy so that it protects migrants will be legally responsible for dan commission recommended that we first and foremost the needs of Amer- those they bring into the country. The increase the number of Labor Depart- ican workers, taxpayers, and families. bill also ensures that sponsors first ment wage and hour inspectors to help We worked long and hard within the have the means to meet this financial us stop that and directly help us stop Committee on the Judiciary to bring commitment. It makes no sense, as illegal immigration. What happened? this bill to the House floor where it current law allows, for sponsor who are We came out of the committee with passed by a margin of 333 to 87. Other themselves on welfare to promise that 150 additional inspectors, just as the Senate colleagues also labored in- they will keep the new immigrants Jordan commission reported, but be- tensely to bring forth a slightly dif- they sponsor off of welfare. Obviously, fore it came to the floor, the Speaker, ferent version of this legislation, this is a promise that cannot be kept, Mr. GINGRICH, the gentleman from new passed by a vote of 97 to 3. These lop- and the taxpayer foots the bill. York, Mr. SOLOMON, the chairman of sided majorities clearly reflect the will This is truly landmark legislation. the Committee on Rules, the powers of the American people, that Congress And it is long overdue. It’s time to put that be, while listening to the get serious about immigration reform. the interests of American workers, tax- whisperings in their ears of lobbyists Not tomorrow. Not next session. But payers, and families first. It’s time to for employers, said we are not going to now. push through to the finish, and com- let that stay in the bill. Illegal immigration has reached a plete passage of the Immigration in the So by the time the bill got to the crisis. One million permanent illegal National Interest Act. floor, the 150 new inspectors designed aliens enter the country every 2.5 Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of to help us deal with the problem Mr. years. Half of these illegal aliens use my time. SMITH was talking about were gone. fraudulent documents to wrongly ob- Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield The U.S. Senate passed the bill. When tain jobs and government benefits, and such time as he may consume to the the U.S. Senate passed the bill, there one quarter of all Federal prisoners are gentleman from Texas [Mr. BRYANT], were 350 additional Labor Department illegal aliens. ranking member on the Subcommittee wage and hour inspectors. But we saw Think of the human cost in pain and on Immigration, who more than any the draft of the Republican conference suffering to innocent victims. Think of other member on the committee fought committee proposal that will be taken the financial cost to taxpayers of in- to protect American workers, who up tomorrow. What does it have? Zero. carceration in the criminal justice sys- started out with the Smith-Bryant bill, The question is whether we are going tem. got cut out by the leadership and we to legislate here in the interest of the H.R. 2202 will better secure our bor- now meet here at this juncture before American people, write legislation that ders by doubling the number of border we go to conference. really deals with the problem that we patrol agents and cracking down on re- Mr. BRYANT of Texas. Mr. Speaker, are facing, and it is a big problem, with peat illegal border crossings. It will in- I thank the chairman for yielding me regard to illegal immigration and the crease interior enforcement and make the time and for his kind words. displacement of American workers or it more difficult for illegal aliens to Mr. Speaker, a bill that began as a whether we are going to do what the take jobs away from American citizens. bipartisan effort to address a very dif- lobbyists tell us to do. September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10191 I urge the Members of the House to wants to continue to provide a free In 1986, back in the bipartisan days, come to this floor and vote in favor of public education to illegal immigrants now long over with us, we adopted leg- the Conyers motion to instruct and to as they currently do, they would be islation that said, if you hire people tell whoever it is that is calling the perfectly entitled to continue that pol- who are here illegally, you will be pun- shots behind the scenes, we want 350 icy. ished. We feared that that would lead wage and hour workers back in this Mr. Speaker, California alone spends to discrimination. People would say, I bill. We want them to be able to aug- over $2 billion per year to educate ille- better not hire anybody who is His- ment the efforts of our other Govern- gal immigrants, and our Nation spends panic or Asian who might be foreign ment agencies in trying to fight illegal over $4 billion in this unfunded man- because they might be here illegally. immigration. We want a bill that does date. It is time that we at least give We had a variety of safeguards in there what the advertisers and the sponsors the States this important tool for re- including antidiscrimination provi- of this bill say they are trying to do. ducing incentives for illegal immi- sions which were unanimously agreed And that is stop people who do not live grants to stay in our country. to finally by the conference. Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield in this country, who are not supposed We put provisions in there that said, such time as he may consume to the to be in this country from taking the if you are denied work by someone who gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. jobs of working Americans. Vote for is motivated by fear of sanctions, de- FRANK], ranking member of the Com- the motion to instruct. spite your having done the right mittee on the Judiciary, a member of Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I things, we are going to protect you. yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from the Subcommittee on Immigration. Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. And we said to businesses, you cannot California [Mr. GALLEGLY], chairman of Speaker, I agree that this is a very im- use the rules against hiring people ille- the House task force on illegal immi- portant subject. I agree that we should gally as a justification for saying, gration. be acting to try to diminish illegal im- Mexicans are too much trouble, Asians Mr. GALLEGLY. Mr. Speaker, one of are too much trouble. the most critical challenges facing the migration. It is for that reason that I deplore as seriously as I can both the This bill weakens that. This bill de- 104th Congress is the passage of com- method by which this bill has been con- liberately, clearly and intentionally, to prehensive and effective immigration sidered and the substances. use the word this bill likes, weakens reform legislation. For many years the I am a member of the Subcommittee those protections for Hispanics. By the American people have expressed frus- on Immigration as I have been since way, we had a study by the General Ac- tration that its leaders in Congress coming to Congress. I am very proud of counting Office. They said the provi- have failed to enact policies to elimi- the bipartisan efforts in which I par- sions were not strong enough. The Gen- nate the unacceptable high levels of il- ticipated in 1986 and in 1990 and at eral Accounting Office said, yes, the legal entry into our country. other times to deal with immigration sanctions have led to discrimination. Under the able leadership of the gen- legislation. For the first time in the 16 Understand, we are not here talking tleman from Texas, Mr. LAMAR SMITH, years I have been a Member of Con- about keeping out people who are here chairman of the House Subcommittee gress, gross partisanship has run this illegally. We are talking about Mexi- on Immigration and Claims, the House process. Those of us who participated can-American citizens, Asian-Amer- of Representatives will soon consider a in good faith have assurances from the ican citizens. And some employers say, conference report which finally ad- chairman of the subcommittee that I do not want to mess with you guys dresses the public concern over this this would be done in a bipartisan way because you might be here illegally. problem in a serious and comprehen- in the deliberations at the committee We said, you cannot do that. You can- sive manner. stage. Those of us who were Democrats not simply refuse. You have to give One of the most important elements were completely excluded from the them a chance to prove that they are of this conference report is the so- process to the point where, despite our here legally. called Gallegly amendment. This provi- repeated requests, we could not even We had provisions there that pro- sion is really quite straightforward. It see a copy of this complex legislation simply eliminates the ability of the tected people. They now changed that until 9:30 last night. law. Those provisions are not before us. Federal Government to force States to My colleagues will remember that provide a free public education to ille- This sanction proposal, we are not the Republican leadership was ready to dealing with that. What they did in gal immigrants. push this bill through before the re- This unfunded mandate is especially this bill is gratuitously go back to the cess, and only our objection stopped it. 1986 law and weaken the antidiscrimi- disturbing considering that 95 percent They were going to put it through of the cost of providing a public edu- nation provisions by saying that you without our having a chance to see it. will be found guilty to discriminating cation is born by State taxpayers. In Then, despite the fact that it was ready addition, my amendment has been only if the Government proves intent. to be passed in August, they withheld In other words, if you are by now dumb modified to make absolutely sure that it from us, despite our requests to be illegal immigrant children who are al- enough to use bigoted words, we can do able to look at it until last night. it. but if it is overwhelmingly clear ready enrolled in public schools will This substitution of partisan exclu- from the way you have behaved, from not be removed from those schools. sion for a bipartisan process is the rea- your work force, et cetera, that you This compromise provides that illegal son why we may very well not have a are discriminating, we will not be able immigrants who are currently enrolled bill. The fault will lie at the feet of to protect you. in a public school will continue to re- those who changed a tradition of bipar- ceive a free public education through tisanship. I believe the chairman of the We also have problems from people the highest grade either in elementary subcommittee when he said, do not who apply and are illegally turned or secondary school. worry, we are just talking among our- down because the Government makes a For example, an illegal immigrant selves. We will have a participatory mistake. We said, what if somebody student in 2d grade could get a free process. said, I will hire you if you are here le- education until the 6th grade or an ille- That apparently consists of us seeing gally and the Government makes a gal student in the 7th grade could con- the bill last night and then trying to mistake. My friends on the other side tinue through the 12th grade, provided run it through conference tomorrow. talk frequently of the fact that the they remained within the same school That is their participatory process. Government makes mistakes. We know district. Now, I understand why they did it that the Government makes mistakes. So It is important to keep in mind that way. There are in this bill several pro- we said, if you are in fact someone who all these provisions dealing with illegal visions which do not deal with illegal is here legally and you are refused a immigrants currently enrolled in pub- immigration, they deal with discrimi- job because the Government made an lic schools apply only to the States nation. They make it easier for people error, we will allow you to recover that choose to deny illegal immigrants to discriminate against American citi- damages from the Government. a free public education. If a State, be it zens of Hispanic or Asian origin in par- Do my colleagues know what they New York, Oregon, or any other State, ticular. did? They knocked that out. What does H10192 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 that have to do with illegal immigra- who, if they happen to be Hispanic or grants and strips away any serious in- tion? We put provisions in there to pro- Asian, might get caught up in the web. crease in wage and hour supporters, tect people who are lawfully here, I am very disappointed that the Repub- wage and hour division inspectors, American citizens, people who may lican leadership choose a partisan which could provide the kind of polic- have been born here. We put in provi- method and choose to give in to these ing of those employers who want to sions to protect them from harmful kinds of fears because they will be re- hire illegal immigrants in order to ex- error. My colleagues knocked it out. sponsible for the likely result: no legis- ploit them in callous disregard of Fed- eral law knowing that those people will b 1415 lation. We pass immigration legislation never utilize the remedies available to No wonder they did not want to let when we do it in a bipartisan and coop- them. us see it until last night. They weak- erative way. We defeat it when we use So the motion to instruct is a very ened anti-discrimination provisions these kinds of partisan methods, par- important one. that have been in the law for 10 years, ticularly when they are used to dimin- The other larger question which I that the GAO said should have been ish rights that already exist among think the majority has to consider is strengthened. They weakened out abil- American citizens. do they want the bill? They are insist- ity to have Americans get money back Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I ing. The Governor from California from the Government. reserve the balance of my time. came out yesterday and joined the We passed the Taxpayers Bill of Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield Speaker of the House in a press con- Rights for the IRS. But if the IRS and such time as he may consume to the ference, insisting on including a provi- the Social Security Administration, gentleman from California [Mr. BER- sion in this bill, an amended form of somebody else, makes a mistake about MAN] who has been a member of the the Gallegly amendment that all law one’s eligibility to work, and they lose Committee on the Judiciary for a con- enforcement tells us is crazy, that all a job because of it, they do not get any siderable period of time and is widely educators tell us is bad, which requires help, and do my colleagues know what reputed to be an expert on immigra- that the children of people who came the Republican answer was? ‘‘Oh, well, tion. here illegally at one point or another there’s a reciprocal problem there be- Mr. BERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I thank be refused admission or kicked out of cause you, if you were illegally turned the ranking member of our Committee the public schools. down for the job, you lost the job, but on the Judiciary for yielding me this The President has made it quite clear the employer has also been hurt be- time. that that will result in a veto. cause the employer didn’t get to hire I rise in support of the motion to in- When I read that the Governor of you.’’ That is the kind of equivalence struct the conferees. It is a funny situ- California came back to Washington, we get here. ation when we deal with a provision in came back to Washington to insist on a We have legislation that addresses an the bill that is the critical increase in provision which he knows will require important subject, and up until the the number of wage and hour inspec- a veto, I tried to think why, since he committee process we dealt with it in a tors in order to make immigration re- ballyhoos himself as somebody who is bipartisan way, and once it got out of form meaningful by giving us the re- trying to do something about illegal committee somebody made a decision, sources to go to the work site where immigration. I think Ron Prince, who and I do not know; we could not find the big problem is, and the Senate bill was the chairman; he was the chairman out who. Everybody I talked to provided, I believe, 200, 300. The House of the committee to pass proposition thought it was a terrible decision. Ap- bill provided 150. It was taken out by a 187, probably put it most accurately parently the decision was made by the floor amendment that had nothing to when he indicated that there are some ether. But the decision was to withhold do with the issue of wage and hour in- Republicans in this House and in the Senate and in the Republican campaign from the Democratic members of this spectors. It dealt with collapsing from who want to veto a bill. They do not subcommittee and full committee and a meaningful verification program to a want to do anything about illegal im- others in the House, and I am told this weak verification program, and that migration. They want an issue. So they happened on the other side as well, any was taken out, and now we come back take the one provision that has drawn chance to look at this complicated bill. with a proposed draft, the rumors are, a clear statement of a veto and insist We got it at 9:30 last night, and they and it is more than rumors. The pro- that that provision be kept in the bill plan to pass it tomorrow, quite con- posed conference committee document even though it is bad public policy, trary to the assurances I received from that has very kindly been shown to out even though all of law enforcement the chairman of the subcommittee and side of the aisle before the conference says that it will make their job much others, and they also, having let us indicates there will be no increase in more difficult. All educators, nearly all play games, having apparently made us wage and hour inspectors. educators oppose the provision. I won- feel good, pretending they were paying If my colleagues want to get a handle der what the agenda is of the people attention to us, it seems to me, during on the issue of illegal immigration, who would make that the condition for the committee process, they then sys- putting all of the rhetoric aside, there this conference report. tematically weakened or took out of are some key steps. At the border, Mr. GALLEGLY. Mr. Speaker, will that bill everything that would protect meaningful verification; right now em- the gentleman yield? American citizens against discrimina- ployer sanctions are a joke, and a sys- Mr. BERMAN. I yield to the gen- tion, American citizens against govern- tematic effort to take those industries tleman from California. ment error. and employers who systematically re- Mr. GALLEGLY. Mr. Speaker, I can- Mr. Speaker, we do not stop illegal cruit and hire illegal immigrants be- not let the statement pass, and I thank immigration by diminishing the rights cause of their desire to violate wage the gentleman for yielding, that all law of Americans citizens, but that is what and hour standards and take a very ex- enforcement opposes it when I know this bill does. I do not like the amend- ploitable work force and utilize them my good friend, the gentleman from ment offered by the gentleman from in order to produce their product at California [Mr. BERMAN], knows that California regarding education. The below average scale and capture the not to be true. In fact, just 3 days ago right of children to go to school the market in that fashion. one of the largest law enforcement second to the sixth grade does not seem This bill goes along with the Clinton agencies in the country, the California to me a great right, and if my col- administration’s effort to increase the Sheriffs Association, strongly endorsed leagues believe that education stops at border patrol, does a whole bunch of it. The National Alliance endorsed it. A the sixth grade, I guess it does to my other things which in some cases are large portion of the rank and file of the colleagues, too. very incendiary, dilutes its initial at- Fraternal Order of Police endorsed it. But I want to say that that is not the tempts to provide meaningful verifica- So I would say to the gentleman the only provision of this bill that bothers tion, thereby rendering fairly ineffec- cops on the street support it. me and there are provisions of the bill tive, to my way of thinking, all of the Mr. BERMAN. Reclaiming my time, that systematically reduce rights that efforts to deal with denial of employ- Mr. Speaker, I should amend my state- are now available to American citizens ment or public benefits to illegal immi- ment. The vast majority of leadership September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10193 and individual chiefs of police of juris- the issue of where we were 3 months come to the point where we cannot dictions most affected by this provision ago with a 333 to 87 vote; how many continue to chisel away and have a real think it would be a terrible idea. votes do we have in this body that we bill. Now I am trying to understand what get that many folks to agree on? Just The people of California can no the motivation is for someone like let me finish this, and I will be happy longer afford to provide a free public Governor Wilson to come to Washing- to yield. Three hundred thirty-three to education to everyone. It has a deni- ton, hold a press conference, urge pas- eighty-seven this body voted to support grating effect on the citizens of our sage of a bill with a provision that he this immigration bill including a provi- States in providing an education to the knows will draw a veto. There is two sion, unmodified provision, that would children of legal residents and citizens. cynical, but perhaps accurate, interpre- allow the States to deny a free public I think that issue has been sorely tations of the motivations for this ac- education to those that have no legal missed in this debate. tion. right to be in this country. Since that Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield One is again to have an issue rather time we have modified it to the point 30 seconds to the gentleman from Cali- than a law. All the time and effort of giving a grandfather clause to all of fornia [Mr. BERMAN]. spent by the chairman of the sub- those in K through 6 and those in 7 Mr. BERMAN. Mr. Speaker, I thank committee and Senator SIMPSON to try through 12, watered it down consider- the gentleman for yielding time to me. Mr. Speaker, I in no way question the and improve our ability to deal with il- ably, and now even with a much more sincerity of the gentleman’s commit- legal immigration will be a waste of modified version the President of the ment to his amendment. I think he is time if this bill is vetoed. Those people United States is saying he would veto wrong, but I think he is sincere. He has want an issue. something that almost a 4 to 1 margin always had this position. He has pushed The other even more cynical inter- in the House supported, a strong bipar- pretation of the motivations of the for it for a long time. tisan vote, and the people of California I just wish that, given that he had Governor is what happened on both the in an initiative 2 years ago voted by al- two strong efforts in this bill, major ef- House and Senate floors. Actually the most a 2 to 1 margin. It appears to me forts, one for a meaningful verification Senate did not even take it up. The the President of the United States, if system that could give some meaning large growers in California hate any- in fact he really is talking seriously to employer sanctions, and what I thing which makes efforts to enforce about a veto, is not listening to the think is a somewhat crazy scheme on our laws against illegal immigration people of California. how to try and help deal with the prob- tougher because they have historically And further I would just like to add lem of illegal immigration by kicking relied on bringing in undocumented that with all the due respect that I kids out of schools, he had been able to workers to pick the crops. They came have for our President, he has talked prevail on the first and yielded on the in with a rather brazen effort on the about vetoes in the past. Sometimes he second, rather than yielding on mean- House floor to try and create a new does what he says; sometimes he does ingful verification and insisting on his 500,000 farm worker-guest worker not. I am just saying that I do not be- provision. amendment to bring in these people. lieve that he would veto this bill, I do Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I am That amendment got trounced on a bi- not think that it is the right thing for pleased to yield 1 minute and 30 sec- partisan basis. My view is that those him to do, he knows it is not what the onds to the gentlewoman from Texas, same growers do not want to see this people of California want. Ms. SHEILA JACKSON-LEE. bill pass, but no one can be against this Mr. BERMAN. Mr. Speaker, will the Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. kind of a bill from that community. So gentleman yield? Speaker, I thank the ranking member instead they and the Governor, as their Mr. GALLEGLY. I am happy to yield for this leadership, and the leadership representative, comes here and insists to my friend, the gentleman from Cali- of the members of the Subcommittee on a provision he knows will result in fornia. on Immigration and Claims of the a veto. b 1430 Committee on the Judiciary. I cer- It is a pretty cynical story. It is a tainly want to acknowledge the bipar- pretty sad story. It means a lot of im- Mr. BERMAN. The gentleman mis- tisan approach of my colleague, the portant provisions in this bill, provi- understood me. First of all, the 333 gentleman from Texas, in the effort to sions providing for reimbursement for votes the gentleman referred to in- distinguish and separate illegal immi- health care institutions, provisions cluded a number of us who made it gration from legal immigration. that at least go down the road toward very clear that we want a great part of However, it is important to note that some meaningful verification, hope- what is in this bill, we do not want, we still have an open question. Even fully all of those will go down the drain with all due respect, the gentleman’s now there is just a GAO study about because of an insistence on this one amendment in the bill, and that we taking rights away from citizen chil- provision. would move it on to conference in the dren. It is a study with the intent, of Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I hope that a conference committee course, that we ultimately may deny yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from would convene and decide to pull that the children born in the United States California [Mr. GALLEGLY]. amendment out, since it was not in the their rights. Mr. GALLEGLY. Mr. Speaker, I Senate. Then I might say, as I rise to support thank the chairman for yielding me The second point I wanted to make the motion to instruct of my ranking the time. was my point about the growers had member, the gentleman from Michi- With all due respect to my friend, the nothing to do with the 333 vote. It was gan, [Mr. CONYERS], how can we elimi- gentleman from California [Mr. BER- why would the Governor of California nate the Labor Department inspectors MAN], I just could not let some of these do that, with a chance to get meaning- that would in fact be able to eliminate statements stand without some form of ful provisions. some of the very problems that the rebuttal, as he referred to the element Mr. GALLEGLY. Reclaiming my Honorable Barbara Jordan from Texas, of farm worker issue being drowned. time, Mr. Speaker, I would say to the as leader of the President’s commis- I have to remind the gentleman that gentleman from California [Mr. BER- sion, indicated we had to do to protect it was only 3 months ago that this very MAN], this issue is very clearly I think workers, and to avoid the paying of body passed the bill that we are dis- an issue that the gentleman, my good wages below the minimum wage and cussing, only a much tougher bill, 333 friend, would agree is something that I unsafe working conditions? to 87, including the education issue, have worked on for many years. We have already determined that the and in fact on a stand-alone vote, I have 20-some provisions in this bill Labor Department and its inspector di- whether we should give the States the that I strongly believe in. We have vision has found some millions of dol- rights to make the decision for them- modified, we have cut back. We have lars of situations where minimum selves, it passed by almost a hundred made compromises that quite frankly I wages were not paid, or unsafe condi- votes, stand-alone. do not think we should have made, but tions. It seems if we are truly sincere The people of California have been for the sake of moving the bill ahead, I about reform in immigration that we crying for this support, and the issue, have supported it. I think we have will have those inspectors. H10194 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 Last, let me say how unfortunate it solved the problem with the 900 and does little, if anything, to try to pre- is that if some of our citizens who have with the new verification system. serve and protect American jobs. We to be verified, particularly Hispanic Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield had a provision in the Senate bill that citizens with Hispanic surnames, find 15 seconds to the gentleman from Mas- said, let us provide 350 investigators to out that they are legal and then they sachusetts [Mr. FRANK]. make sure we inspect the workplaces have no remedy, no way to address Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. in this country to make sure jobs are their grievances, I would say we need Speaker, the gentleman from Penn- held for American citizens. to look at making this a better reform sylvania is understandably confused, We have right now a total of 750 in- and do a better job. I rise to support because he thought we were using regu- vestigators nationwide to cover 6 mil- the motion to instruct. lar procedures. He kept saying, you lion places of employment. That is Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I have agreed in the conference report. about 8,000 places of employment per yield 5 minutes to my friend, the gen- No, there is not any conference report. investigator, to investigate to find out tleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. GOOD- There was an internal Republican dis- if someone is hired with the authoriza- LING], chairman of the Committee on cussion, and they produced something tion to work in this country. Economic and Educational Opportuni- that they intend to ram through the The Senate, including the Repub- ties. conference in a day. But in fact the licans in the Senate, said let us give (Mr. GOODLING asked and was give gentleman mistook the current situa- the Department of Labor the oppor- permission to revise and extent his re- tion for regular legislative procedure. tunity to do a better job of investigat- marks.) Mr. SMITH of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I ing. Why? Because we have found we Mr. GOODLING. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time. have been able to recoup money for a thank the gentleman for yielding time Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I yield lot of American citizens that would to me. such time as he may consume to the have otherwise not been employed, and Mr. Speaker, when we get carried distinguished gentleman from Califor- those people who are not employed and away in this body, we really get carried nia, Mr. XAVIER BECERRA, who I have are in jobs that are not authorized, to away. If ever I heard overkill, we are asked to conclude this discussion by get them out and leave the jobs for the talking about overkill today. saving him for last to use the remain- American citizens. In the conference agreement you ing time on our side. What we find is that that was all gut- have agreed to 900 new people in INS The SPEAKER pro tempore. the gen- ted. This so-called conference report over a 3-year period, 900. I know what tleman from California [Mr. BECERRA] that Democrats have never even seen the Members are going to say, but they is recognized for 2 minutes and 45 sec- until today does not include any fund- do no check on wage and hour. No, but onds. ing for that. Why? If we are really out if they do their job, there is no neces- Mr. BECERRA. Mr. Speaker, I thank to protect jobs for Americans, if we are sity for anybody to be checking on the gentleman for yielding time to me. really out to reform our immigration wage and hour. We are giving them 900 Mr. Speaker, there are a number of laws, then let us do the thing that new people over a 3-year period. problems with this so-called conference most Americans wish to see most, jobs, Second, in the conference agreement report, not least of which is the back- jobs for Americans, or those entitled to you have agreed to the new workplace room deals that occurred on the major- work in this country. This bill does not verification rule. Let us give them a ity side of the aisle in both Houses provide that type of protection. chance. Let us give the 900 a chance, which did not allow anyone from the and let us give the new workplace ver- Democratic side of the aisle to partici- I am amazed, we found somehow the ification system an opportunity to pate in any of the negotiations that capacity in this Congress to give mon- work. Then we can determine whether took place over the last 3 to 4 months. eys, funds for 300 additional border pa- we need anything else. Now we are going to try to pass out trol agents more than even what the I do not know how much experience a bill in about 48 hours, never having administration, the Clinton adminis- you have with wage and hour people, seen or had a chance to discuss any of tration, requested. The President re- but I have had a lot of experience in these so-called changes. It is upsetting quested about 700 new border patrol of- the school business. In fact, I had to to see that the Republicans have de- ficers. This Congress said, we are going threaten them, to tell them never, ever cided to weaken protections against to give you 1,000. When the administra- to step in again to my business man- discrimination for U.S. citizens. They tion said we need more investigators to ager’s office, that they will come are gutting even a compromise that make sure people are employed because through the superintendent. Why? Be- was reached in the light of day in com- they are authorized to work, this Con- cause he was very, very valuable to me mittee, and the backrooms deals were gress said no, you cannot do it. So and to that school system. I could not cut, and that language that protected there we have. have him have a stroke over the insen- people from discrimination was re- We are going to find a situation, un- sitivity of the gentleman who appeared moved. like what the chairman of the Commit- there and said, do not tell me you are It is sad to see that this Congress has tee on Economic and Educational Op- not doing anything wrong. I will stay now reached the stage where it is going portunities said, that you can stop here until I find it. He went all over my to blame children and punish children them all at the border. I wish it was district doing the same, until I got him for the acts of adults. I have never seen true but it is not, because almost half transferred to the district of the gen- that happen in a court of law, but here of the people undocumented in this tleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. we go, not punishing adults for the acts country come legally through a visa, a MCDADE]. I figured he would have a of children, but punishing children for student visa or a work visa. Then they tougher time up there. the acts of adults. That is what this overstay and become illegal after that. Now, let us get back again to the Congress wishes to do by denying kids They are the ones you will never catch. point: 900 new people in INS. If they do the access to education. Half of the people, they will continue their job, and we are giving them the By the way, talking about unfunded to be employed and you will not have opportunity by giving them more peo- mandates, doing what they want to do the investigators to spot them. Bad ple, then we are getting to the root of in this bill will cost hundreds of mil- bill. Vote against this. the problem we are talking about, and lions of dollars to the schools through- The SPEAKER pro tempore. All time we have eliminated that problem. That out this Nation. That is not my state- has expired. is what we have done. Also you have ment, that is the statement of the Cali- Without objection, the previous ques- done it if our new verification system fornia School Board Association, which tion is ordered on the motion to in- works the way we hope it will work. is opposing the Gallegly amendment. struct. So let us not get carried away and What is worst about all of this is There was no objection. add 350 more here and another thou- jobs. The reason people come into this The SPEAKER pro tempore. The sand some other place. Let us, as a country, whether with or without docu- question is on the motion to instruct matter of fact, see whether we have not ments, is to get a better paying job for offered by the gentleman from Michi- gotten to the root of the problem, and their family. This bill, unfortunately, gan [Mr. CONYERS]. September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10195

The question was taken; and the Castle Hefley Peterson (MN) ANT of Texas, BECERRA, GOODLING, Chabot Herger Petri Speaker pro tempore (Mr. DREIER) an- Chambliss Hilleary Pickett CUNNINGHAM, MCKEON, MARTINEZ, GENE nounced that the ayes appeared to have Chenoweth Hobson Pombo GREEN of Texas, SHAW, and JACOBS. it. Christensen Hoekstra Porter There was no objection. Chrysler Hoke Pryce Mr. CONYERS. Mr. Speaker, I object Clinger Hostettler Quillen f to the vote on the ground that a Coble Houghton Quinn quorum is not present and make the Coburn Hunter Radanovich ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER point of order that a quorum is not Collins (GA) Hutchinson Ramstad PRO TEMPORE Combest Hyde Regula present. Condit Inglis Roberts The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evi- Cooley Istook Roemer ant to clause 5 of rule I, the Chair will dently a quorum is not present. Cox Jacobs Rogers now put the question on each motion Cramer Johnson (CT) Rohrabacher The Sergeant at Arms will notify ab- Crane Johnson, Sam Roukema to suspend the rules on which further sent members. Crapo Jones Royce proceedings were postponed on Tues- The vote was taken by electronic de- Cremeans Kasich Salmon day, September 10, 1996, in the order in Cubin Kelly Sanford vice, and there were—yeas 181, nays Cunningham Kim Saxton which that motion was entertained. 236, not voting 16, as follows: Davis King Scarborough Votes will be taken in the following [Roll No. 408] Deal Kingston Schaefer order: House Resolution 470 by the yeas DeLay Klug Schiff and nays; H.R. 3863 by the yeas and YEAS—181 Dickey Knollenberg Seastrand Dooley Kolbe Sensenbrenner nays; H.R. 3539, de novo; and H.R. 3759 Abercrombie Gilman Nadler Doolittle LaHood Shadegg by the yeas and nays. Ackerman Gonzalez Neal Dornan Largent Shaw Allard Gordon Oberstar The Chair will reduce to 5 minutes Dreier Latham Shays Andrews Green (TX) Obey Duncan LaTourette Shuster the time for any electronic vote after Baldacci Gutierrez Olver Dunn Laughlin Sisisky the first such vote in this series. Barcia Hall (OH) Ortiz Ehlers Lazio Skeen Barrett (WI) Hamilton Owens f Ehrlich Leach Skelton Becerra Harman Pallone English Lewis (CA) Smith (MI) Beilenson Hastings (FL) Payne (NJ) Ensign Lewis (KY) Smith (TX) MONITORING OF STUDENT RIGHT Berman Hefner Payne (VA) Everett Lightfoot Smith (WA) TO KNOW AND CAMPUS SECU- Bevill Hilliard Pelosi Ewing Lincoln Solomon Blumenauer Hinchey Peterson (FL) RITY ACT OF 1990 Fawell Linder Souder Bonior Holden Pomeroy Fields (TX) Livingston Spence The SPEAKER pro tempore. The un- Borski Horn Poshard Flanagan LoBiondo Stearns Boucher Hoyer Rahall finished business is the question of sus- Foley Lucas Stenholm Brown (CA) Jackson (IL) Rangel pending the rules and agreeing to the Forbes Manzullo Stockman Brown (OH) Jackson-Lee Reed Fowler Martinez Stump resolution, House Resolution 470. Bryant (TX) (TX) Richardson Fox Martini Talent The Clerk read the title of the resolu- Campbell Jefferson Rivers Franks (CT) McCollum Tanner Cardin Johnson (SD) Ros-Lehtinen tion. Franks (NJ) McCrery Tate Chapman Johnson, E. B. Rose Frelinghuysen McHugh Tauzin The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Clay Johnston Roth Frisa McIntosh Taylor (MS) question is on the motion offered by Clayton Kanjorski Roybal-Allard Funderburk McKeon Taylor (NC) Clement Kaptur Rush the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Gallegly Metcalf Thomas Clyburn Kennedy (MA) Sabo GOODLING] that the House suspend the Gekas Meyers Thornberry Coleman Kennedy (RI) Sanders Geren Mica Tiahrt rules and agree to the resolution, Collins (MI) Kennelly Sawyer Gilchrest Miller (FL) Upton House Resolution 470, on which the Conyers Kildee Schroeder Gillmor Molinari Vucanovich Costello Kleczka Schumer yeas and nays are ordered. Goodlatte Montgomery Walker Coyne Klink Serrano Goodling Moorhead Walsh The vote was taken by electronic de- Cummings LaFalce Skaggs Goss Morella Wamp vice, and there were—yeas 413, nays 0, Danner Lantos Slaughter Graham Myers Watts (OK) DeFazio Levin Smith (NJ) not voting 20, as follows: Greene (UT) Myrick Weldon (FL) DeLauro Lewis (GA) Spratt Greenwood Nethercutt Weldon (PA) [Roll No. 409] Dellums Lipinski Stark Gunderson Neumann White YEAS—413 Deutsch Lofgren Stokes Gutknecht Ney Whitfield Diaz-Balart Longley Studds Abercrombie Browder Cramer Hall (TX) Nussle Wicker Dicks Lowey Stupak Ackerman Brown (CA) Crane Hancock Orton Wolf Dingell Luther Tejeda Allard Brown (OH) Crapo Hansen Oxley Young (AK) Dixon Maloney Thompson Andrews Brownback Cremeans Hastert Packard Young (FL) Doggett Manton Thornton Archer Bryant (TN) Cubin Hastings (WA) Parker Zimmer Doyle Markey Thurman Armey Bunn Cummings Hayworth Paxon Durbin Mascara Torres Bachus Bunning Cunningham Edwards Matsui Torricelli NOT VOTING—16 Baesler Burr Danner Engel McCarthy Towns Baker (CA) Burton Davis Brown (FL) Heineman Riggs Eshoo McDade Traficant Baker (LA) Buyer Deal Buyer McNulty Scott Evans McDermott Velazquez Baldacci Callahan DeFazio Collins (IL) Mollohan Torkildsen Farr McHale Vento Ballenger Calvert DeLauro de la Garza Norwood Zeliff Fattah McInnis Visclosky Barcia Camp DeLay Ganske Pastor Fazio McKinney Volkmer Barr Campbell Dellums Hayes Portman Fields (LA) Meehan Ward Barrett (NE) Canady Deutsch Filner Meek Waters b 1503 Barrett (WI) Cardin Diaz-Balart Flake Menendez Watt (NC) Bartlett Castle Dickey Foglietta Millender- Waxman Mr. TANNER, Mr. BAESLER, and Barton Chabot Dicks Ford McDonald Weller Mrs. MORELLA changed their vote Bass Chambliss Dingell Frank (MA) Miller (CA) Williams from ‘‘yea’’ to ‘‘nay.’’ Bateman Chapman Dixon Frost Minge Wilson Becerra Chenoweth Doggett Furse Mink Wise Messrs. ALLARD, MCINNIS, and LU- Beilenson Christensen Dooley Gejdenson Moakley Woolsey THER changed their vote from ‘‘nay’’ Bentsen Chrysler Doolittle Gephardt Moran Wynn to ‘‘yea.’’ Bereuter Clay Dornan Gibbons Murtha Yates So the motion was rejected. Berman Clayton Doyle Bevill Clement Dreier NAYS—236 The result of the vote was announced Bilbray Clinger Duncan Archer Bateman Brewster as above recorded. Bilirakis Clyburn Dunn Armey Bentsen Browder A motion to reconsider was laid on Bishop Coble Durbin Bachus Bereuter Brownback the table. Bliley Coburn Edwards Baesler Bilbray Bryant (TN) The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Blumenauer Coleman Ehlers Baker (CA) Bilirakis Bunn Blute Collins (GA) Ehrlich Baker (LA) Bishop Bunning DREIER). Without objection, the Chair Boehlert Collins (MI) Engel Ballenger Bliley Burr appoints the following conferees: Boehner Combest English Barr Blute Burton Messrs. HYDE, SMITH of Texas, Bonilla Condit Ensign Bonior Cooley Eshoo Barrett (NE) Boehlert Callahan GALLEGLY, MCCOLLUM, GOODLATTE, Bartlett Boehner Calvert Borski Costello Evans Barton Bonilla Camp BRYANT of Tennessee, BONO, CONYERS, Boucher Cox Everett Bass Bono Canady FRANK of Massachusetts, BERMAN, BRY- Brewster Coyne Ewing H10196 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 Farr Knollenberg Ramstad Woolsey Yates Young (FL) DeLay Istook Obey Fattah Kolbe Rangel Wynn Young (AK) Zimmer Dellums Jackson (IL) Olver Fawell LaFalce Reed Deutsch Jackson-Lee Ortiz Fazio LaHood Regula NOT VOTING—20 Diaz-Balart (TX) Orton Fields (LA) Lantos Richardson Bono Hayes Portman Dickey Jacobs Owens Fields (TX) Largent Rivers Brown (FL) Heineman Riggs Dicks Jefferson Oxley Filner Latham Roberts Bryant (TX) McNulty Roybal-Allard Dingell Johnson (CT) Packard Flake LaTourette Roemer Collins (IL) Mollohan Scott Dixon Johnson (SD) Pallone Flanagan Laughlin Rogers Conyers Norwood Torkildsen Doggett Johnson, E. B. Parker Foglietta Lazio Rohrabacher de la Garza Pastor Zeliff Dooley Johnson, Sam Paxon Foley Leach Ros-Lehtinen Ganske Payne (NJ) Doolittle Johnston Payne (NJ) Dornan Jones Payne (VA) Forbes Levin Rose Doyle Kanjorski Pelosi Ford Lewis (CA) Roth b 1521 Dreier Kaptur Peterson (FL) Fowler Lewis (GA) Roukema So (two-thirds having voted in favor Duncan Kasich Peterson (MN) Fox Lewis (KY) Royce Frank (MA) Lightfoot thereof) the rules were suspended, and Dunn Kelly Petri Rush Durbin Kennedy (MA) Pickett Franks (CT) Lincoln Sabo the resolution was agreed to. Edwards Kennedy (RI) Pombo Franks (NJ) Linder Salmon The result of the vote was announced Ehlers Kennelly Pomeroy Frelinghuysen Lipinski Sanders Ehrlich Kildee Porter Frisa Livingston as above recorded. Sanford Engel Kim Poshard Frost LoBiondo A motion to reconsider was laid on Sawyer English King Pryce Funderburk Lofgren Saxton the table. Ensign Kingston Quillen Furse Longley Scarborough f Eshoo Kleczka Quinn Gallegly Lowey Schaefer Evans Klink Radanovich Gejdenson Lucas Schiff Everett Klug Rahall Gekas Luther Schroeder ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER Ewing Knollenberg Ramstad Gephardt Maloney Schumer PRO TEMPORE Farr Kolbe Rangel Geren Manton Seastrand Fattah LaFalce Reed Gibbons Manzullo Sensenbrenner The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Fawell LaHood Regula Gilchrest Markey Serrano DREIER). Pursuant to the provisions of Fazio Lantos Richardson Gillmor Martinez Shadegg Fields (LA) Largent Rivers Gilman Martini clause 5, rule I, the Chair announces Shaw Fields (TX) Latham Roberts Gonzalez Mascara that he will reduce to a minimum of 5 Shays Filner LaTourette Roemer Goodlatte Matsui Shuster minutes the period of time within Flake Laughlin Rogers Goodling McCarthy Flanagan Lazio Rohrabacher Sisisky which a vote by electronic device may Gordon McCollum Foglietta Leach Ros-Lehtinen Skaggs be taken on each additional motion to Goss McCrery Foley Levin Rose Skeen Graham McDade suspend the rules on which the Chair Forbes Lewis (CA) Roth Green (TX) McDermott Skelton has postponed further proceedings. Ford Lewis (GA) Roukema Greene (UT) McHale Slaughter Fowler Lewis (KY) Roybal-Allard Greenwood McHugh Smith (MI) f Fox Lightfoot Royce Gunderson McInnis Smith (NJ) Frank (MA) Lincoln Rush Gutierrez McIntosh Smith (TX) STUDENT DEBT REDUCTION ACT Franks (CT) Linder Sabo Gutknecht McKeon Smith (WA) OF 1996 Franks (NJ) Lipinski Salmon Hall (OH) McKinney Solomon Frelinghuysen Livingston Sanders Hall (TX) Meehan Souder The SPEAKER pro tempore. The un- Frisa LoBiondo Sanford Hamilton Meek Spence finished business is the question of sus- Frost Lofgren Sawyer Hancock Menendez Spratt Funderburk Longley Saxton Hansen Metcalf Stark pending the rules and passing the bill, Furse Lowey Scarborough Harman Meyers Stearns H.R. 3863, as amended. Gallegly Lucas Schaefer Hastert Mica Stenholm The Clerk read the title of the bill. Gejdenson Luther Schiff Hastings (FL) Millender- Stockman The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Gekas Maloney Schroeder Hastings (WA) McDonald Stokes Gephardt Manton Schumer Hayworth Miller (CA) Studds question is on the motion offered by Geren Manzullo Seastrand Hefley Miller (FL) Stump the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Gibbons Markey Sensenbrenner Hefner Minge Stupak GOODLING] that the House suspend the Gilchrest Martinez Serrano Gillmor Martini Shadegg Herger Mink Talent rules and pass the bill, H.R. 3863, as Hilleary Moakley Tanner Gilman Mascara Shaw Gonzalez Matsui Shays Hilliard Molinari Tate amended, on which the yeas and nays Goodlatte McCarthy Shuster Hinchey Montgomery Tauzin are ordered. Goodling McCollum Sisisky Hobson Moorhead Taylor (MS) This will be a 5-minute vote. Gordon McCrery Skaggs Hoekstra Moran Taylor (NC) The vote was taken by electronic de- Goss McDade Skeen Hoke Morella Tejeda Murtha vice, and there were—yeas 414, nays 1, Graham McDermott Skelton Holden Thomas Horn Myers Green (TX) McHale Slaughter Thompson not voting 18, as follows: Hostettler Myrick Greene (UT) McHugh Smith (MI) Thornberry Houghton Nadler [Roll No. 410] Greenwood McInnis Smith (NJ) Thornton Hoyer Neal YEAS—414 Gunderson McIntosh Smith (TX) Thurman Hunter Nethercutt Gutierrez McKeon Smith (WA) Tiahrt Abercrombie Blumenauer Chrysler Hutchinson Neumann Gutknecht McKinney Solomon Torres Ackerman Blute Clay Hall (OH) Meehan Souder Hyde Ney Allard Boehlert Clayton Inglis Nussle Torricelli Hall (TX) Meek Spence Towns Andrews Boehner Clement Hamilton Menendez Spratt Istook Oberstar Archer Bonilla Clinger Jackson (IL) Obey Traficant Hancock Metcalf Stark Upton Armey Bonior Clyburn Hansen Meyers Stearns Jackson-Lee Olver Bachus Borski Coble (TX) Ortiz Velazquez Harman Mica Stenholm Vento Baesler Boucher Coburn Hastert Millender- Stockman Jacobs Orton Baker (CA) Brewster Coleman Jefferson Owens Visclosky Hastings (FL) McDonald Stokes Baker (LA) Browder Collins (GA) Hastings (WA) Miller (CA) Studds Johnson (CT) Oxley Volkmer Baldacci Brown (CA) Collins (MI) Hayworth Miller (FL) Stump Johnson (SD) Packard Vucanovich Ballenger Brown (OH) Combest Hefley Minge Stupak Johnson, E.B. Pallone Walker Barcia Brownback Condit Hefner Mink Talent Johnson, Sam Parker Walsh Barr Bryant (TN) Conyers Herger Moakley Tanner Johnston Paxon Wamp Barrett (NE) Bunn Cooley Hilleary Molinari Tate Jones Payne (VA) Ward Barrett (WI) Bunning Costello Hilliard Montgomery Tauzin Kanjorski Pelosi Waters Bartlett Burr Cox Hinchey Moorhead Taylor (MS) Kaptur Peterson (FL) Watt (NC) Barton Burton Coyne Hobson Moran Taylor (NC) Kasich Peterson (MN) Watts (OK) Bass Buyer Cramer Hoekstra Morella Tejeda Kelly Petri Waxman Bateman Callahan Crane Hoke Murtha Thomas Pickett Weldon (FL) Kennedy (MA) Becerra Calvert Crapo Holden Myers Thompson Weldon (PA) Kennedy (RI) Pombo Beilenson Camp Cremeans Horn Myrick Thornberry Weller Kennelly Pomeroy Bentsen Campbell Cubin Hostettler Nadler Thornton White Kildee Porter Bereuter Canady Cummings Houghton Neal Thurman Whitfield Kim Poshard Berman Cardin Cunningham Hoyer Nethercutt Tiahrt King Pryce Wicker Bevill Castle Danner Hunter Neumann Torres Kingston Quillen Williams Bilbray Chabot Davis Hutchinson Ney Torricelli Kleczka Quinn Wilson Bilirakis Chambliss Deal Hyde Nussle Towns Klink Radanovich Wise Bishop Chapman DeFazio Inglis Oberstar Traficant Klug Rahall Wolf Bliley Christensen DeLauro September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10197 Upton Waters Wilson DeFazio Istook Orton Ward White Wynn Velazquez Watt (NC) Wise DeLauro Jackson (IL) Owens Waters Whitfield Yates Vento Watts (OK) Wolf DeLay Jackson-Lee Oxley Watt (NC) Wicker Young (AK) Visclosky Waxman Woolsey Dellums (TX) Packard Watts (OK) Williams Young (FL) Volkmer Weldon (FL) Wynn Deutsch Jacobs Pallone Waxman Wilson Zimmer Vucanovich Weldon (PA) Yates Diaz-Balart Jefferson Parker Weldon (FL) Wise Walker Weller Young (AK) Dickey Johnson (CT) Paxon Weller Woolsey Walsh White Young (FL) Dicks Johnson (SD) Payne (NJ) Wamp Whitfield Zimmer Dingell Johnson, E. B. Payne (VA) NOES—17 Ward Wicker Dixon Johnson, Sam Pelosi Allard Hyde Shadegg Doggett Johnston Peterson (FL) Barr Largent Souder NAYS—1 Dooley Jones Peterson (MN) Canady Meyers Stockman Williams Doolittle Kanjorski Petri Cooley Myrick Stump Dornan Kaptur Pickett Cox Sanford Wolf NOT VOTING—18 Doyle Kasich Pombo Hefley Sensenbrenner Bono Ganske Pastor Dreier Kelly Pomeroy Brown (FL) Hayes Portman Duncan Kennedy (MA) Porter NOT VOTING—18 Bryant (TX) Heineman Riggs Dunn Kennedy (RI) Poshard Baker (CA) Hayes Portman Chenoweth McNulty Scott Durbin Kennelly Pryce Brown (FL) Heineman Riggs Collins (IL) Mollohan Torkildsen Edwards Kildee Quillen Bryant (TX) McNulty Scott de la Garza Norwood Zeliff Ehlers Kim Quinn Collins (IL) Mollohan Torkildsen Ehrlich King Radanovich de la Garza Norwood Weldon (PA) b 1533 Engel Kingston Rahall Ganske Pastor Zeliff English Kleczka Ramstad So (two-thirds having voted in favor Ensign Klink Rangel b 1543 thereof) the rules were suspended and Eshoo Klug Reed Evans Knollenberg Regula Messrs. MCINTOSH, the bill, as amended, was passed. ROHRABACHER, ROYCE, and The result of the vote was announced Everett Kolbe Richardson Ewing LaFalce Rivers SCARBOROUGH changed their vote as above recorded. Farr LaHood Roberts from ‘‘no’’ to ‘‘aye.’’ Fattah Lantos Roemer A motion to reconsider was laid on So (two-thirds having voted in favor the table. Fawell Latham Rogers Fazio LaTourette Rohrabacher thereof) the rules were suspended and f Fields (LA) Laughlin Ros-Lehtinen the bill, as amended, was passed. Fields (TX) Lazio Rose The result of the vote was announced FEDERAL AVIATION Filner Leach Roth Flake Levin Roukema as above recorded. AUTHORIZATION ACT OF 1996 Flanagan Lewis (CA) Roybal-Allard A motion to reconsider was laid on The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Foglietta Lewis (GA) Royce the table. Foley Lewis (KY) Rush DREIER). The unfinished business is the Forbes Lightfoot Sabo f question of suspending the rules and Ford Lincoln Salmon passing the bill, H.R. 3539, as amended. Fowler Linder Sanders EXPORTS, JOBS, AND GROWTH The Clerk read the title of the bill. Fox Lipinski Sawyer ACT OF 1996 Frank (MA) Livingston Saxton The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Franks (CT) LoBiondo Scarborough The SPEAKER pro tempore. The un- question is on the motion offered by Franks (NJ) Lofgren Schaefer finished business is the question of sus- the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. Frelinghuysen Longley Schiff pending the rules and passing the bill, SHUSTER] that the House suspend the Frisa Lowey Schroeder Frost Lucas Schumer H.R. 3759, as amended. rules and pass the bill, H.R. 3539, as Funderburk Luther Seastrand The Clerk read the title of the bill. amended. Furse Maloney Serrano The SPEAKER pro tempore. The The question was taken. Gallegly Manton Shaw Gejdenson Manzullo Shays question is on the motion offered by The SPEAKER pro tempore. Two- Gekas Markey Shuster the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. thirds of those present not having Gephardt Martinez Sisisky ROTH] that the House suspend the rules voted in the affirmative, the motion is Geren Martini Skaggs and pass the bill, H.R. 3759, as amend- rejected. Gibbons Mascara Skeen Gilchrest Matsui Skelton ed, on which the yeas and nays are or- RECORDED VOTE Gillmor McCarthy Slaughter dered. Mr. GILCHREST. Mr. Speaker, I de- Gilman McCollum Smith (MI) The vote was taken by electronic de- Gonzalez McCrery Smith (NJ) mand a recorded vote. Goodlatte McDade Smith (TX) vice, and there were—yeas 157, nays A recorded vote was ordered. Goodling McDermott Smith (WA) 260, not voting 16, as follows: The vote was taken by electronic de- Gordon McHale Solomon [Roll No. 412] vice, and there were—ayes 398, noes 17, Goss McHugh Spence Graham McInnis Spratt YEAS—157 not voting 18, as follows: Green (TX) McIntosh Stark Abercrombie DeLauro Green (TX) [Roll No. 411] Greene (UT) McKeon Stearns Ackerman DeLay Hall (OH) Greenwood McKinney Stenholm AYES—398 Baldacci Deutsch Hall (TX) Gunderson Meehan Stokes Barcia Dicks Hamilton Abercrombie Blute Chenoweth Gutierrez Meek Studds Barrett (NE) Dingell Hastert Ackerman Boehlert Christensen Gutknecht Menendez Stupak Barton Dixon Hastings (FL) Andrews Boehner Chrysler Hall (OH) Metcalf Talent Bateman Doggett Hefner Archer Bonilla Clay Hall (TX) Mica Tanner Becerra Dooley Hilliard Armey Bonior Clayton Hamilton Millender- Tate Beilenson Dreier Houghton Bachus Bono Clement Hancock McDonald Tauzin Bentsen Edwards Hoyer Baesler Borski Clinger Hansen Miller (CA) Taylor (MS) Bereuter Engel Hyde Baker (LA) Boucher Clyburn Harman Miller (FL) Taylor (NC) Berman Ewing Jackson-Lee Baldacci Brewster Coble Hastert Minge Tejeda Bishop Fattah (TX) Ballenger Browder Coburn Hastings (FL) Mink Thomas Bliley Fazio Jefferson Barcia Brown (CA) Coleman Hastings (WA) Moakley Thompson Blumenauer Fields (TX) Johnson (CT) Barrett (NE) Brown (OH) Collins (GA) Hayworth Molinari Thornberry Boehner Filner Johnson, E. B. Barrett (WI) Brownback Collins (MI) Hefner Montgomery Thornton Brewster Flake Johnston Bartlett Bryant (TN) Combest Herger Moorhead Thurman Brown (CA) Foglietta Kelly Barton Bunn Condit Hilleary Moran Tiahrt Brown (OH) Forbes Kennedy (MA) Bass Bunning Conyers Hilliard Morella Torres Bryant (TN) Franks (CT) Kennedy (RI) Bateman Burr Costello Hinchey Murtha Torricelli Callahan Frisa Kennelly Becerra Burton Coyne Hobson Myers Towns Calvert Frost King Beilenson Buyer Cramer Hoekstra Nadler Traficant Cardin Gejdenson Kolbe Bentsen Callahan Crane Hoke Neal Upton Castle Gekas LaHood Bereuter Calvert Crapo Holden Nethercutt Velazquez Christensen Gephardt Lantos Berman Camp Cremeans Horn Neumann Vento Clayton Geren Latham Bevill Campbell Cubin Hostettler Ney Visclosky Clinger Gibbons Laughlin Bilbray Cardin Cummings Houghton Nussle Volkmer Clyburn Gilchrest Lazio Bilirakis Castle Cunningham Hoyer Oberstar Vucanovich Coleman Gilman Leach Bishop Chabot Danner Hunter Obey Walker Danner Gonzalez Levin Bliley Chambliss Davis Hutchinson Olver Walsh Davis Gordon Lewis (CA) Blumenauer Chapman Deal Inglis Ortiz Wamp H10198 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 Lofgren Payne (NJ) Smith (NJ) Spratt Thornberry Waters There was no objection. Lowey Payne (VA) Stenholm Stark Thornton Watts (OK) Lucas Pelosi Studds Stearns Tiahrt Waxman The Clerk read the Senate bill, as fol- Maloney Peterson (FL) Tanner Stockman Towns Weldon (FL) lows: Manton Pickett Tejeda Stokes Upton Weldon (PA) S. 1669 Manzullo Pomeroy Thomas Stump Velazquez White Martinez Porter Thompson Stupak Visclosky Whitfield But it enacted by the Senate and House of Matsui Quinn Thurman Talent Volkmer Wolf Representatives of the United States of America McCarthy Rangel Torres Tate Vucanovich Woolsey in Congress assembled, McDade Richardson Torricelli Tauzin Walker Yates SECTION 1. NAME OF DEPARTMENT OF VETER- Menendez Rose Traficant Taylor (MS) Walsh Young (FL) ANS AFFAIRS MEDICAL CENTER, Meyers Roth Vento Taylor (NC) Wamp Zimmer JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI. Mink Roukema Ward (a) NAME.—The Department of Veterans Moakley Roybal-Allard Watt (NC) NOT VOTING—16 Moran Rush Weller Brown (FL) Heineman Riggs Affairs medical center in Jackson, Mis- Morella Sabo Wicker Bryant (TX) McNulty Scott sissippi, shall be known and designated as Myers Sawyer Williams Collins (IL) Mollohan Torkildsen the ‘‘G.V. (Sonny) Montgomery Department Nadler Schiff Wilson de la Garza Norwood Zeliff of Veterans Affairs Medical Center’’. Any Oberstar Serrano Wise Ganske Pastor reference to such medical center in any law, Olver Sisisky Wynn Hayes Portman regulation, map, document, record, or other Young (AK) Ortiz Skaggs paper of the United States shall be consid- Orton Skeen b 1551 ered to be a reference to the G.V. (Sonny) Mr. BAESLER and Mr. BILBRAY NAYS—260 Montgomery Department of Veterans Affairs changed their vote from ‘‘yea’’ to Medical Center. Allard Everett McCollum ‘‘nay.’’ (b) EFFECTIVE DATE.—Subsection (a) shall Andrews Farr McCrery Archer Fawell McDermott Mrs. KELLY changed her vote from take effect at noon on January 3, 1997. Armey Fields (LA) McHale ‘‘nay’’ to ‘‘yea.’’ The Senate bill was ordered to be Bachus Flanagan McHugh So (two-thirds not having voted in read a third time, was read the third Baesler Foley McInnis favor thereof) the motion was rejected. Baker (CA) Ford McIntosh time, and passed, and a motion to re- Baker (LA) Fowler McKeon The result of the vote was announced consider was laid on the table. Ballenger Fox McKinney as above recorded. f Barr Frank (MA) Meehan f Barrett (WI) Franks (NJ) Meek GENERAL LEAVE Bartlett Frelinghuysen Metcalf PERSONAL EXPLANATION Bass Funderburk Mica Mr. STUMP. Mr. Speaker, I ask Bevill Furse Millender- Mr. PORTMAN. Mr. Speaker, because of a unanimous consent that all Members Bilbray Gallegly McDonald death in my family, I was not in attendance for may have 5 legislative days within Bilirakis Gillmor Miller (CA) rollcall votes Nos. 407, 408, 409, 410, 411, Blute Goodlatte Miller (FL) which to revise and extend their re- and 412. Boehlert Goodling Minge marks on S. 1669. Bonilla Goss Molinari Had I been in attendance, I would have The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there Bonior Graham Montgomery voted ``yea'' on rollcall votes Nos. 407, 409, Bono Greene (UT) Moorhead objection to the request of the gen- 410, and 411, and ``nay'' on rollcall votes Nos. Borski Greenwood Murtha tleman from Arizona? 408 and 412. Boucher Gunderson Myrick There was no objection. Browder Gutierrez Neal f Brownback Gutknecht Nethercutt f Bunn Hancock Neumann PERMISSION TO FILE CON- Bunning Hansen Ney FERENCE REPORT ON H.R. 3816, ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER Burr Harman Nussle PRO TEMPORE Burton Hastings (WA) Obey ENERGY AND WATER DEVELOP- Buyer Hayworth Owens MENT APPROPRIATIONS ACT, The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without Camp Hefley Oxley 1997 prejudice to the possible resumption of Campbell Herger Packard Canady Hilleary Pallone Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I ask legislative business, the Chair will en- Chabot Hinchey Parker unanimous consent that the managers tertain requests for special order Chambliss Hobson Paxon on the part of the House may have speeches. Chapman Hoekstra Peterson (MN) Chenoweth Hoke Petri until midnight tonight, Wednesday, f Chrysler Holden Pombo September 11, 1996, to file a conference Clay Horn Poshard report on the bill (H.R. 3816) making SPECIAL ORDERS Clement Hostettler Pryce Coble Hunter Quillen appropriations for energy and water de- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under Coburn Hutchinson Radanovich velopment for the fiscal year ending the Speaker’s announced policy of May Collins (GA) Inglis Rahall September 30, 1997, and for other pur- 12, 1995, and under a previous order of Collins (MI) Istook Ramstad poses. Combest Jackson (IL) Reed the House, the following Members will Condit Jacobs Regula The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. be recognized for 5 minutes each. Conyers Johnson (SD) Rivers DREIER). Is there objection to the re- f Cooley Johnson, Sam Roberts quest of the gentleman from Louisi- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a Costello Jones Roemer ana? Cox Kanjorski Rogers previous order of the House, the gen- Coyne Kaptur Rohrabacher There was no objection. tleman from West Virginia [Mr. WISE] Cramer Kasich Ros-Lehtinen f Crane Kildee Royce is recognized for 5 minutes. Crapo Kim Salmon G.V. (SONNY) MONTGOMERY DE- [Mr. WISE addressed the House. His Cremeans Kingston Sanders PARTMENT OF VETERANS AF- Cubin Kleczka Sanford remarks will appear hereafter in the Cummings Klink Saxton FAIRS MEDICAL CENTER Extensions of Remarks.] Cunningham Klug Scarborough Mr. STUMP. Mr. Speaker, I ask f Deal Knollenberg Schaefer DeFazio LaFalce Schroeder unanimous consent to take from the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a Dellums Largent Schumer Speaker’s table the Senate bill (S. 1669) previous order of the House, the gen- Diaz-Balart LaTourette Seastrand to name the Department of Veterans tleman from Florida [Mr. GOSS] is rec- Dickey Lewis (GA) Sensenbrenner Affairs Medical Center in Jackson, MS Doolittle Lewis (KY) Shadegg ognized for 5 minutes. as the ‘‘G.V. (Sonny) Montgomery De- Dornan Lightfoot Shaw [Mr. GOSS addressed the House. His Doyle Lincoln Shays partment of Veterans Affairs Medical remarks will appear hereafter in the Duncan Linder Shuster Center,’’ and ask for its immediate Dunn Lipinski Skelton Extensions of Remarks.] Durbin Livingston Slaughter consideration in the House. Ehlers LoBiondo Smith (MI) The Clerk read the title of the Senate f Ehrlich Longley Smith (TX) bill. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a English Luther Smith (WA) The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. previous order of the House, the gen- Ensign Markey Solomon Eshoo Martini Souder ROTH). Is there objection to the request tleman from Washington [Mr. Evans Mascara Spence of the gentleman from Arizona? METCALF] is recognized for 5 minutes. September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10199 [Mr. METCALF addressed the House. come has increased more quickly, and The American people must know that His remarks will appear hereafter in the deficit is smaller relative to the history speaks for itself on supply-side the Extensions of Remarks.] economy. economics: the Dole plan will bankrupt f Gross domestic product growth has our Nation, undermine economic been 2.5 percent under annually since growth, and increase worker unemploy- CLINTONOMICS VERSUS 1992, as opposed to 2.4 percent Reagan- ment. REAGANOMICS Bush. It is time that we pay tribute to the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a Employment grew at a rate of 2.6 per- 1993 budget law which has been a tre- previous order of the House, the gen- cent each year since 1992, a full per- mendous success in reviving the econ- tleman from New York [Mr. HINCHEY] centage point higher than in the years omy and creating good, decent-paying is recognized for 5 minutes. from 1981–1992. jobs for millions of Americans. Mr. HINCHEY. Mr. Speaker, just be- And finally, the deficit has averaged f fore the August recess, the Wall Street 2.9 percent of the size of the economy Journal published an op-ed written by under Clinton, while it averaged 4.3 b 1600 economist Alan Reynolds of the Hud- percent under Reagan and Bush. The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. son Institute. Last month’s unemployment rate of ROTH). Under a previous order of the That op-ed, entitled ‘‘Clintonomics 5.1 percent provides further evidence of House, the gentleman from Indiana doesn’t measure up,’’ urged presi- just how healthy the national economy [Mr. BURTON] is recognized for 5 min- dential candidate Bob Dole to embrace has become in recent times. utes. a return to supply-side economics Mr. Speaker, I am not arguing that [Mr. BURTON of Indiana addressed based on what was portrayed as anemic all areas of the Nation have experi- the House. His remarks will appear economic growth during the past 4 enced equal economic progress during hereafter in the Extension of Re- years. the last 4 years. Reynolds argued that key statistics There are areas such as the Hudson marks.] showed economic performance was su- Valley and the Southern Tier in my f perior during the supply-side years of State that continue to experience sig- TRIBUTE TO H.C. ‘‘LADD’’ HITCH President Reagan than it has been nificant economic anxiety and wide- JR. since President Clinton was elected to spread underemployment. office. While there is much left to do to help The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a As I read the article, it became clear get people to work, even these areas previous order of the House, the gen- to me that Mr. Reynolds, a long-time have experienced improvements in tleman from Oklahoma [Mr. LUCAS] is advocate for supply-side policies, was their local economies since 1992. recognized for 5 minutes. not providing objective analysis of this Mr. Speaker, we owe much of our Mr. LUCAS of Oklahoma. Mr. Speak- situation. economic progress to the success of the er, it is with a solemn heart that I rise Calling on the resources of the Joint 1993 budget reduction law that was en- today to share with my colleagues the Economic Committee, of which I am a acted by the Democratic Congress. passing of H.C. ‘‘Ladd’’ Hitch of member, I conducted extensive re- It has reduced the deficit by 60 per- Guymon, OK. search into Reynolds’ economic analy- cent, from $290 billion in 1992 to an es- A pioneer cattleman and prominent sis and the statistics he used to make timated $117 billion this year. Oklahoma Panhandle businessman, his case. The law has resulted in four straight Ladd was truly a remarkable man who I was not surprised to find that the years of deficit reduction for the first left an indelible mark on his commu- analysis was orchestrated in a manner time in about 100 years. nity, his State, and his industry. He that proved to be generous to the sup- And the deficit this year is expected was the third-generation patriarch of a ply-side years and not so generous to to be at its smallest size relative to the family that settled and prospered in the Clinton years. economy since 1974. what once was called our Nation’s ‘‘No First, Reynolds conveniently began In addition to the historic deficit re- Man’s Land.’’ The fact that a thriving his analysis in 1983, the third year of duction which has occurred, the law agricultural economy has developed on Reagan’s presidency, rather than in also significantly expanded the EITC this once barren land is a testament to 1981, the year in which the Reagan tax program providing tax cuts to families his family’s frontier spirit. cut was actually enacted. earning less than $28,000 annually. The Hitch’s settled in the Oklahoma The huge budget deficits resulting According to the U.S. Department of Panhandle in 1884. Ladd was born in from those tax reductions forced up in- Treasury, in my congressional district, 1918 and by the time he reached adult- terest rates in 1981 and plunged the an estimated 31,974 working families hood, he and his family had revolution- economy into the deepest recession have received tax breaks averaging $480 ized production agriculture in the re- since the Great Depression. this year due to the expansion of the gion. As the Hitch legacy in the region Unemployment reached almost 11 EITC. grew, the family’s visionary business percent nationally, and the strong re- By any measure then, whether it is practices never waned. They intro- covery in the years that followed must economic performance, deficit reduc- duced one of the first irrigation sys- be seen from that perspective: from tion, or tax relief to working families, tems in the Panhandle region. This in- that economic nadir, we had nowhere the 1993 budget law has been a great novation supplied the ability to else to go but up. success. produce an abundant feed supply and In addition, Reynolds also excluded Despite all of these positive statistics led to the establishment in 1953 of one the Bush years from his analysis de- on economic performance that were in- of the Southwest’s first large-scale cat- spite the fact that supply-side policies cluded in my Wall Street Journal tle feedlot operations. Last year, the were continued throughout that era. piece, I am disappointed to say that I National Cattleman’s Association list- The Journal recently printed a letter was not successful in convincing GOP ed Hitch Enterprises as the ninth larg- I authored in response to that op-ed candidate Bob Dole that a return to est cattle feeding operation in the that included a more complete com- supply-side economics would be unwise. country. parison of economic performance since Last month, Dole released his $550 Mr. Hitch was one of the founding 1992 and that during the full Reagan- billion tax plan with breaks targeted to members of the Oklahoma Cattleman’s Bush 12 years. only the wealthiest families in our Na- Association, was the first recipient of The analysis showed the economy tion, and paid for by a magical eco- the National Cattleman of the Year has in fact performed better since 1993 nomic growth dividend. Award, was named ‘‘Feedlot Magazine’s than it had during the previous 12 This morning, Senator Dole held Commercial Feeder of the Year,’’ and years of supply-side economics. meetings in the House of Representa- was selected as a ‘‘Stockman of the Under Clinton, the economy has tives to peddle his supply-side eco- Century.’’ His activities were not just grown more rapidly, employment has nomic plan to reluctant Republican limited to agriculture. During his life, risen at a faster rate, per capita in- Members of this body. he served as the chairman of the Board H10200 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 of Regents of Oklahoma State Univer- We saw the dismantling of our drug GINGRICH are bringing us a $500 billion sity, was the former director of the interdiction efforts to stop drugs, co- economic package, have proposed a $500 University of Oklahoma Research Cen- caine and heroin, at the borders and at billion economic plan tax break pack- ter, was a member of the Oklahoma their sources, almost a total disman- age, mostly for the wealthy, that will Medical Research Foundation, and had tling proposed by this administration. result in more cuts to Medicare, more been a trustee of the National Cowboy And then finally, a great insult, we cuts to student loans, more cuts to Hall of Fame. saw the lowering of the standards in Medicaid, and more cuts to environ- As a cow calf operator from western the highest office in this land, the mental programs. Oklahoma, a former member of the While House. The White House, which Mr. Speaker, let us look at a bit of Oklahoma State Legislature, and now is supposed to set the standards, in history as we discuss this Dole eco- a member of the U.S. House of Rep- fact, lowered the standards, and we saw nomic plan, and as we discuss the cuts resentatives, I had the opportunity to the records of people being employed in Medicare and what all of that deal with Ladd Hitch on many different that were so bad that they had to insti- means, and what that meant last year. issues both business and legislative. He tute a drug-testing program at the in- Last year the plan of the Speaker, was a man of integrity, drive, and vi- sistence of the Secret Service. the Gentleman from Georgia [Mr. sion. Ladd died on July 29, 1996, while Mr. Speaker, that is the problem. GINGRICH], and Senator Dole was to attending the Oklahoma State Cattle- This is the situation. What do we do give some $245 billion in tax breaks man’s Association in Oklahoma City at about it? This Congress, this new ma- mostly for the wealthy, and they the National Cowboy Hall of Fame. The jority, and I, as a parent and an Amer- planned to pay for this plan by making site of his death memorializes many of ican, think we must act. This Congress $270 billion of cuts in Medicare and sev- the greatest aspects of life. Ladd will is taking steps. Under the leadership of eral billion, about $180 billion cuts in be missed. this new majority, we are restoring Medicaid, several billion worth of cuts in student loans, and several billion of f money to the drug czar’s office. We are working with a new drug czar to see cuts in environmental protection. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a This $245 billion tax break mostly for previous order of the House, the gen- that that is an effective office. We know that we must fight drugs on the wealthy, which would result in the tleman from Michigan [Mr. SMITH] is four fronts: by education, interdiction, $270 billion in Medicare cuts, was the recognized for 5 minutes. enforcement, and treatment; that we beginning of the unraveling of the Med- [Mr. SMITH of Michigan addressed cannot, as this administration has said icare Program. Let me quote what the House. His remarks will appear and proposed and done, just treat the Speaker GINGRICH said about Medicare, hereafter in the Extensions of Re- wounded in battle. That is what we are and let me quote what then-Senator Dole said about Medicare. marks.] doing by putting all of our sources and Last October Speaker GINGRICH, f resources in treatment only. speaking to a group of insurance execu- Mr. Speaker, we are going to restore TEEN DRUG USE SKYROCKETING tives, all of whom would benefit great- those funds, and we are going to make UNDER CLINTON ly from this dismantling of the Medi- a four-pronged approach. We are going care Program, said, ‘‘Now we didn’t get The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a to lick this problem, but it is going to rid of Medicare in round one, because previous order of the House, the gen- take everyone from the White House to tleman from Florida [Mr. MICA] is rec- we don’t think that is politically the courthouse, every parent, every smart. We don’t think that is the right ognized for 5 minutes. concerned citizen, and every Member of Mr. MICA. Mr. Speaker, I come be- way to go through a transition. But we Congress to join this effort, because we believe that Medicare is going to with- fore the House once again, and I have are losing a generation. We cannot af- been before the House before, to talk er on the vine.’’ ford to lose our young people in this The same day, speaking to another about the problem of drug and sub- war on drugs. We must band together. stance abuse and the problem with our group, a group called the American This Congress must act in a positive Conservation Union, then-Senator young people in this country, and the fashion. We must approach this in a bi- Dole, who was leading the fight for the problem of the drug epidemic across partisan manner. Then we can take Medicare cuts in the Senate, said, ‘‘I this Nation. back our children, we can take back was there, fighting the fight, voting Tonight I want to again call to the our streets, we can take back our against Medicare, one of 12, because we attention of my colleagues these abso- neighborhoods. knew it wouldn’t work in 1965.’’ lutely startling statistics that have We have 1.6 million Americans incar- Since that time, the same people come out within the last month about cerated in this land. Seventy percent of that tried to, on the one hand, say they teen drug use skyrocketing, particu- them are in jails and prisons because of are here to try to defend Medicare and larly in the years since 1992 to 1995, drug use and abuse. This is the problem save Medicare, are attacking Medicare under this administration. we have created. This is the problem under their breath, attacking Medicare If we look at the overall drug use and we need to address. We must join to- behind closed doors in Republican cau- abuse, particularly, again, among our gether to start with our young people cuses, and occasionally letting it slip teenagers, 12 to 17 years old, it is up 78 and bring this drug epidemic facing our and attacking Medicare in public. percent. Marijuana use, 1992 to 1995, is Nation and our youth under control. One prominent member of the Com- up 105 percent. LSD use, up 105 percent Mr. Speaker, I urge your cooperation mittee on Ways and Means called Medi- also. Cocaine use is up 166 percent. in this effort, and that of my col- care socialized medicine. The majority Even in my area, a wonderful, calm, leagues. leader, the gentleman from Texas [Mr. traditionally family-oriented area of f ARMEY], said that in a free society central Florida, heroin use and abuse is Medicare would not exist, whatever skyrocketing, particularly among our DOLE-GINGRICH ECONOMIC PLAN that means. Other prominent Repub- young people. I am alarmed as a par- CONTAINS TAX BREAKS MOSTLY licans have labeled Medicare a program ent, I am alarmed as a father, and I am FOR THE WEALTHY of socialism, a program that does not alarmed as an American about this The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under make sense for people, a program that trend. the Speaker’s announced policy of May we simply do not need. It is easy to trace this trend. In the 12, 1995, the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Mr. Speaker, the point is that this Clinton years, from 1992 to 1995, we saw BROWN] is recognized for 60 minutes as crowd, GINGRICH, Dole, the gentleman the steps that led to this. First we saw the designee of the minority leader. from Texas, Mr. ARMEY, the leadership the firing by the new President of two- Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, of the Republican Party, not main- thirds of the drug czar’s staff. Then we here we go again. The same folks who stream Republicanism, which most saw the appointment of Joycelyn El- brought us the Government shutdown, people in this country that are Repub- ders, the chief health officer for the the two Government shutdowns earlier licans I think are more likely to be- Nation, who said: Just say maybe; just this year and late last year, are back. lieve in, and not the mainstream Re- say maybe try it. Former Senator Dole and Speaker publicanism that supported Medicare September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10201 in past decades, but this new extremist gentleman tonight and talk about this I do not think that is what people in crowd of GINGRICH and ARMEY and the $548 billion tax cut that has become a America want when they talk about gentleman from Texas, TOM DELAY, political issue around the country. In trust, when they talk about all of us and some of the other leaders in the fact I know the gentleman mentioned want a tax cut but we also want to bal- other House are simply opposed to that Senator Dole was here today talk- ance the budget. Medicare. They wanted it to wither on ing to the Republican leadership, and Let me even quote another former the vine. They bragged about voting during that time I heard that he had U.S. Senator. Senator Warren Rudman against it. mentioned that this whole campaign is from New Hampshire agrees when he It is pretty clear that this $245 billion about trust. I thought it was appro- says, ‘‘Unless you are willing to do tax cut they proposed last year and priate in that trust is important, some major reforms in entitlements, paid for by the $200-some billion tax whether you are running for the White there is no way you can do this.’’ cuts in Medicare are the way they can House or Members of Congress or what- What is an entitlement? That is a end the program of Medicare, end the ever elected office you have. But I no- word in Washington we use but in our programs of student loans, end some of ticed he wants us to believe that the districts, entitlements are Social Secu- the environmental protection meas- $548 billion tax cut will not lead to rity, they are Medicare, they are pro- ures. higher budget deficits and increased in- grams that people depend on to make terest rates. sure they can have the quality of life b 1615 The gentleman mentioned earlier that they should have. That brings us to the point today, to that the tax cuts will not work without My concern is why is Senator Dole the Dole program today he has pro- getting into social programs like Medi- not telling the American people that posed in the Presidential race. I might care and maybe Social Security. But that is what he wants to do for $540 bil- add that Senator Dole and his running let us look at history. The gentleman lion in tax cuts, when they got burned mate, Mr. Kemp, came to the Repub- mentioned the $245 billion tax cut last last year by trying to do $245 billion, so lican Caucus today to talk about how year where Medicare was on the table they doubled it almost? And they are they were going to pay for the major to be cut. This year, at least this fall, still going to attack Medicare, edu- tax break, mostly for the wealthy, and nobody is talking about it on the Re- cation, student loans. If you are build- talk about how they were going to do publican side because they want to ing a campaign on trust, let us talk the Medicare cuts. wait until after the election before about that. Let us talk about it before A few Republicans have stood up and they come back and put that on the November 5, instead of waiting until been honest about what the Dole eco- chopping block. after a new Congress comes in, and nomic plan means. If you are going to But since Senator Dole talked about then making those cuts. provide $500 billion in tax breaks, it, this campaign is about trust. It is Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Retaking my mostly for the rich, then you are going really kind of hard, with what you time for 1 moment, to my friend from to have to cut Medicare even more have said, to talk about trust when you Texas, that is exactly the point. Last than then-Senator Dole and Speaker see what happened last year with the year they proposed $245 billion in tax GINGRICH proposed last year. That sim- $245 billion tax cuts and the $270 bil- breaks, mostly for the wealthy, and the ply means that if it was $270 billion in lion, even using their terminology, the way they wanted to pay for those tax cuts in Medicare last year, they are $270 billion cut in growth in Medicare breaks, cuts in Medicare, going right to going to propose even more cuts this spending. the heart of cutting student loans, and year, once they are honest with the But again let us talk about that cutting environmental programs, they public. growth in Medicare spending. If you could not do because the public rose up What that really means is those sen- have 10 million, for example, people re- in opposition to it. This year Senator ceiving Medicare today, and 5 years ior citizens that are now paying $46 a Dole, former Senator Dole, wants to from now you have 25 million that may month for Medicare premiums will give a tax break, again mostly to the be expected, these are numbers we pick have their premium at least doubled, wealthy, of twice that amount, but out of the air, and we are not planning to $90 or $100 or maybe $110 a month to they are not telling us how they are for that growth, then it is a cut. pay for their premium. It also means I know it is sometimes hard to ex- going to pay for it. It is clear the only that deductibles will be higher. It also plain that to folks. But let me mention way they are going to pay for it is go means that copays will be higher. So today I saw in the New York Times the twice as hard at Medicare, twice as that this party, this GINGRICH-Dole architect of the Reagan tax cut plan in hard at student loans and twice as hard party that says they are against tax in- the early 1980’s, Murray Weidenbaum, at the environment. But they look at creases, clearly want to put this senior said of Senator Dole’s proposed tax us and say, ‘‘Trust me until after the citizen tax on Medicare beneficiaries. cuts: Cutting income taxes alone is not election is over, we’ll tell you after the It is not $46 a month, which is what it going to energize the economy suffi- election.’’ It is clear what they are used to be, or $5 or $10 copayments, ciently to prevent a rise in the budget going to do, go after the same pro- what it used to be, or $50 deductible, deficit. grams the public would not stand for in what it used to be. All of a sudden it is This last Sunday on ‘‘Meet the 1995 and 1996 which they shut down the probably going to be double that in Press,’’ another architect or budget ad- Government over, saying if we cannot order to pay for this huge $500 billion viser, Richard Darman, who worked have our Medicare cuts we are going to in tax breaks, mostly for the wealthy. under both Presidents Reagan and shut down the Government. What is At the same time they are going to Bush, reminded us that Reagan had to this crowd going to do? If Senator Dole go right at the heart of student loans raise taxes five times after enacting wins the election and GINGRICH and the and end the student loan program that the very popular 1981 tax cuts to make Republicans in the Senate take con- students in this country have been ac- up for that lost revenue, and we still trol, how are they going to run the customed to, raise the prices on other had our debt and deficit mushroom in Government then? Go right after Medi- kinds of student loans and student the 1980’s, even after five tax increases, care, student loans, and the environ- grants, cut student grants and raise after 1981. ment one more time. the prices on other student loans, and If my colleagues are building a cam- Mr. GENE GREEN of Texas. Going in order again to pay for this $500 bil- paign on trust, then let us look back at back, let me say something else about lion boondoggle, mostly for wealthy the past decade or two decades and see budget cuts, obviously Medicare and taxpayers, to go after programs that where that trust would be. I think the student loans, but they have to go to protect the environment, something gentleman mentioned it, Senator discretionary spending if they do not the American people clearly will not D’AMATO mentioned that under the do entitlements. Some of that discre- stand for. Dole plan, funding for such programs tionary money is Border Patrol, the I yield to the gentleman from Texas. like Medicare would definitely be af- FBI, crime control, airline safety. Mr. GENE GREEN of Texas. I thank fected. In fact his quote is, he went so There are a lot of programs that would the gentleman for yielding. I appre- far as to say: ‘‘I’m not running this be on the chopping block. But again ciate the opportunity to visit with the year so I can say it and tell the truth.’’ they doubled the tax cuts they wanted H10202 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 in 1995 and 1996, they could not get to deal with the fraud questions, be- on defense and then cut the revenue them, and in Texas we call that a pig cause we can save $80 or $90 billion in out of the Government. Or the other in a poke. Our folks are not going to the next 7 years simply by attacking option is you are going to have to cut buy it, and that is what this is. This fraud, waste and abuse in a systematic from education and programs like Med- proposed $500 billion tax cut is a pig in way. That is the first step, not making icare. a poke. these major cuts in Medicare in order So the approach that the President Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, to give tax breaks to the wealthiest has suggested and we are suggesting, the gentleman from Florida [Mr. GIB- people in our country. where you target your tax relief to BONS] was here in 1965 when Medicare I yield to the gentleman from Michi- education, $10,000 tax deduction or was created. At that time, half the sen- gan [Mr. BONIOR]. $1,500 credit for years 13 and 14 in ior citizens of America had no health Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, I thank school; you target it on kids; or on the insurance. Today only 1 percent of sen- my colleague for his comments and for sale of your home, so the middle class ior citizens have no health insurance taking this special order out and for gets a capital gains relief. Those things because of Medicare. Medicare clearly my friend from Florida, Mr. GIBBONS, are more modest, although each in has worked. You look at what Speaker who has been a champion for Medicare themselves is a rather large compo- GINGRICH has said about Medicare, that and for elderly people in this country nent, but they are much more modest he wants to see it wither on the vine, today. than an across-the-board cut, and they and those are his words, not mine. You I would like to embellish a little, if I target people who need it. look at what the next top-ranked Re- could, on what SAM GIBBONS has talked So I thank my colleague for raising publican in Congress has said, Mr. about and how important this is, and the issue of Medicare and how it fits ARMEY, that in a free society you comments you made about how impor- into this debate. We are going to be would not have Medicare. You look at tant this is to our seniors and what a there, protecting it, making sure it is what one of the top Republicans in difference it has made over a period of solvent, as the gentleman from Florida Ways and Means has said, he calls it time since 1965 when it became law. [Mr. GIBBONS] has talked to us about, socialized medicine. You look at what One of the things that has aggra- and making sure that it is there for vated me in this debate the most was Senator Dole said. He said, ‘‘In 1965 I people. There is no reason why we can- the fact that most people in politics was there fighting the fight, voting not make sure that this program is and in the country do not seem to un- against Medicare, 1 out of 12, because it there in the future. derstand what the income level is of wouldn’t work.’’ It is clear when 99 per- We, as you have correctly pointed the people who are receiving Medicare cent of the elderly in this country have out, have taken two generations out of today. poverty when they became seniors be- health insurance and can live the last The Department of Labor study that cause of Medicare in 1965, and your years of their life with dignity knowing Secretary Reich released about a year numbers are absolutely on the mark: that most of their health care will be ago, within the last year, indicated 30–40 percent of the people in this coun- taken care of that it is a program that that 60 percent of our seniors have in- try who became seniors went into pov- works. I resent, as I think everybody come of $10,000 a year or less. That in- erty, before Medicare. Now that num- on this floor resents, the kind of talk cludes their Social Security and their ber is down considerably from that fig- that Mr. GINGRICH and Mr. ARMEY and annuity if they have one. Ten thousand some of the others have said when they dollars a year or less. That is why this ure, and it has been a wonderful pro- belittle Medicare and belittle what it is such an important and, as it turned gram for many, many people. We are has done for people in this country. out, volatile issue in American society going to do all we can to maintain its I yield to the gentleman from Florida today. viability, its solvency, and make sure [Mr. GIBBONS]. I have got a woman in my district, it is there for future generations. Mr. GIBBONS. First of all, this is a and she is a good friend of mine. I do I thank my colleague for his com- very important discussion. Let me say not want to mention her name in this ments. as one who was here, as the gentleman special order, but let me just put it Mr. BROWN of Ohio. I would add, be- said, when Medicare was created, one this way. Margie is her first name. She fore yielding to the gentleman from of the unintended results that has was a riveter and made the B–29’s that New Jersey [Mr. PALLONE], that it is come out of Medicare is that old age is helped us win the Second World War. important to keep in mind what he now much kinder than it used to be. It She is close to 80 years of age now. She said when he talked about Marjorie in is much more humane than it used to worked all her life, helped us win the Macomb County, or I talked about peo- be, and Medicare itself has lifted mil- war and now she lives on her Social Se- ple that I know in Lorraine or Medina lions of older folks out of poverty. But curity. After she gets done paying her or all over my district, that the pro- one of the unintended results that we rent, her Medicare, her medicine and posal last year would have raised pre- never dreamed would happen is it has her MediGap insurance, she has got miums, the monthly premium, from $46 created in the American economy an $130 left for that month and that has to $85 or $90. It would have raised the infrastructure that can take care of got to go for food, for heating, for all deductible, now $250 a year, somewhat the particular needs of old people. That her utility bills. higher, and would have raised the is what has done so much. That is why we have fought so hard copays, which are typically $5 or $10, to Medicare is going to have to make to make sure that people like her do some higher amount. some changes to make sure that it is not have to pay an extra $700 a year in What is important about that is that fiscally sound and in place for the peo- the next 4 or 5 years for Medicare, be- they were cutting Medicare $270 billion ple in the future. Those changes do not cause they cannot afford it. It is a huge to pay for a tax cut of about that need to be radical. Essentially we need part of their annual income. amount. Senator Dole proposes twice to get tough, effectively tough on cut- Now we have got this proposal that the tax break, again, mostly for the ting out the waste, fraud, and abuse. Senator Dole and Mr. Kemp and Mr. wealthy. Does that mean the premiums Then after we have done that, if there GINGRICH have put together that would are going to go up from $46 to $110 or is any need to change the financing cut taxes 15 percent. But the problem $120 or $130 a month? Does that mean system, it should be changed. But we with that is, besides most of it going to that the deductible will go from $250 to have a good program, it is very impor- the folks, very folks at the top, is that $400 or $500, or the copays will go to $15 tant that we maintain it, and it has it would either blow a big hole in our or $25? We do not know that. They are really helped many millions of people deficit, and we have brought this defi- not telling us. in the United States. cit down from $290 billion 4 years ago In order to pay for a tax break of $550 Mr. BROWN of Ohio. I thank the gen- to $116 billion now. We have brought it billion, it is pretty clear the Medicare tleman from Florida. There have been down by 60 percent. premium is going to go well over $100 a efforts by the gentleman from Michi- month, and you are talking, what Mr. b gan [Mr. STUPAK] and me in the Com- 1630 BONIOR said, that 60 percent of Medi- mittee on Commerce, and by the gen- It is going to blow a big hole like we care beneficiaries are living on less tleman from New Jersey [Mr. PALLONE] did during the eighties when we spent than $10,000 a year. While going from September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10203 $46 to $100 a month might not be very Mr. PALLONE. Not only strictly that they opened up to more fraud, much for Mr. ARMEY, who talks about party line, every Republican voted waste, and abuse, in a system that al- Medicare being socialism, or Mr. GING- against it, but if you remember when it ready has 10 or 15 percent fraud, waste, RICH or Mr. Dole or a Member of Con- came to the floor, Speaker GINGRICH and abuse. gress, it is a lot for somebody living on had said he was going to correct it and The first thing we need to do with $10,000 a year. he never did. He actually came here Medicare and Medicaid is not make I yield to my friend from New Jersey, one day in the well and said he was cuts to pay for a tax break for a rel- Mr. PALLONE, who has done more to going to correct that, and it was not atively small number of very wealthy protect Medicare and fight these cuts going to be in the bill when it came to people. The first thing we need to do is and NEWT GINGRICH’s ‘‘wither on the the floor, and he never did. root out the waste, fraud and abuse. vine.’’ Mr. BROWN of Ohio. If I recall, he Then we can deal with the fiscal issues Mr. PALLONE. I thank the gen- said he had corrected it initially. Then with Medicare. But do not charge sen- tleman for what he said. I just wanted a staff person said, ‘‘NEWT, come over ior citizens, raise their premium from to follow up on what he and the gen- here,’’ and he explained he had not. $46 to $110 a year, and raise the tleman from Michigan [Mr. BONIOR] And he ignored it and said, ‘‘We will deductibles and copays. said. take care of it later.’’ It has not been. Mr. PALLONE. I wanted to raise It is amazing to me how the other Fortunately, a Presidential veto three other instances. It is not just party, the Republican leadership, keeps stopped it from happening. seniors that are going to end up paying trying to talk about these changes in Mr. PALLONE. We are primarily more because of these cuts; the general Medicare and these cuts in Medicare as talking about widows, elderly women public will as well. First of all, the if they do not really have an impact on whose husbands had passed on and who fact, I do not think you mentioned it, real people. But they do. did not have any pension or anything you may have, the fact when you cut When both of you were talking about to pay their way, and were therefore el- Medicare, and it is already happening, some lower-income seniors, I had the igible for this, what they called quali- those that have supplemental insur- best experience with that when I had a fied Medicare beneficiaries. ance, most seniors carry supplemental, senior forum in 1995, at the time when I only mention that again by ref- Medigap type insurance, the cost of the Republican leadership was talking erence to the comments that the two of that keeps going up. about eliminating the Medicaid pay- you have made, which is whenever you I see the gentlewoman from Con- ment for Medicare part B. In other have these Medicare cuts, there is no necticut is here, who has been so much words, if you are below a certain in- free lunch. Essentially what it does is involved and taken a leadership role on come so that you are eligible for Med- drive up costs in every other way. this issue. In our States, New Jersey, icaid, right now Medicaid pays your You mentioned about the higher pre- New York, and Connecticut, Medigap part B Medicare premiums, which is for miums for Medicare part B that were insurance costs have gone up from 11 to your doctor bills, to pay for your insur- proposed by the Republicans in 1995. 14 percent every year in the last few ance so your doctor bills are covered. Mr. BROWN of Ohio. In other words, You mentioned the higher deductibles. years, all time highs. A lot of that is that $46 payment, if you are especially You mentioned the higher copayments. attributed to the cuts in Medicare. If poor, that $46 payment the government But we also had this year, in 1996, actu- you cut Medicare, then you are going will help you with so you can qualify ally as part of the budget that the Re- to see higher costs for your Medigap in- for Medicare. publicans passed in the spring, the idea surance. Mr. PALLONE. Exactly. These were of eliminating balanced billing. Also in New Jersey, let me give you people that could not even afford to In other words, essentially, if you de- an example, most of the hospitals that pay the $46 that the average person cided you wanted to stay in traditional I represent in my district rely on Medi- pays now for Medicare part B to pay Medicare, you did not want to go into care and Medicaid for a majority of for their doctor bills. Under the Repub- an HMO or managed care, under the their reimbursement, a majority of the lican proposal that was considered by present Republican budget for 1996, the money they are taking in. When there this House, and actually passed by this one that passed in 1996, you could actu- is a shortfall, either they close or they House in 1995, that money would have ally be charged an unlimited amount find some other way to pay for things. been taken away. So essentially those by the physician over and above what We have seen arise in uncompensated really low income senior citizens would Medicare could pay. care. We actually have a tax, if you not have had Medicaid paying for that So if it is not a question of a higher will, on uncompensated care, that we Medicare part B premium. premium or a higher deductible then end up paying. I was talking to people who could not there are going to be overcharges. They So the general public ends up paying afford to pay another $7 or $8 a month. basically have that right on the table for the difference too. Taxes and costs Mr. BROWN of Ohio. I think it is im- now as we speak in 1996, that doctors go up for the general public, because portant to remember that the people can charge unlimited amounts over and the hospitals are not getting the reim- that need help on paying their Medi- above what Medicare could pay, now bursement rate they were previously care premium, the $46 a month, are not pays, if you stay in your traditional getting. So it is not just seniors that usually people that have been on wel- Medicare plan. are going to pay more. Everyone is fare all their lives. They are usually Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, going to pay more, and they are going people that have been working all their taking back my time for a moment, to pay it in various ways that maybe lives, that never made a lot of money, the changes that Speaker GINGRICH and are not as obvious, but they still end that want to live their last year in dig- Mr. Dole put into the Medicare and up paying. nity. Medicaid bill, will go the exact oppo- Mr. BROWN of Ohio. I yield to the I remember in the Committee on site direction of where we wanted to go gentlewoman from Connecticut. Commerce the gentleman and I and in detecting fraud, waste, and abuse, Ms. DELAURO. Mr. Speaker, I really others worked on an amendment to at rooting it out and eliminating it. am delighted to join with my col- least, as bad as the Medicare bill over- There is the balanced billing issue, leagues tonight, and I thank the gen- all was, to at least put that part of the there is the issue that allows a doctor, tleman from Ohio for his leadership on Medicare law back into place, that which is prohibited now under the law, this effort. Just in listening to the con- Government would help those people but which they want to allow a doctor versation, there is not anyone who has that worked all their lives in perhaps to be able to refer a patient to an MRI suggested that we should not be look- minimum wage or slightly above, to facility or some other diagnostic or ing at making the Medicare program a help them with their Medicare pre- clinical facility that the doctor owns, stronger program, a better program, in mium, so they in fact would qualify for and then go ahead and charge the Gov- a variety of ways. No one has their Medicare. If I recall, that was voted ernment for the referral and the origi- head in the sand to say that hey, it is down on a party line vote because nal visit, and then the diagnostic good. It was started in 1965, we have Speaker GINGRICH did not want it in equipment and treatment at that cen- now insured 99 percent of seniors. In the law. ter. It was one issue after another issue the past that was 46 percent of seniors H10204 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 who had health insurance. But how do bate and truly know who wants to fix Gingrich tax breaks for the rich. We we go ahead and make it better? it, and who ultimately would like to see a further diminishing of this Medi- My colleagues were talking about the see it done in to their peril. care pot that should go to people like issue of fraud and abuse. There is in So I thank my colleague for giving Margie in Macomb County, or people the system, I have introduced legisla- me the opportunity of having this con- like the gentleman from New Jersey tion, others have introduced legisla- versation with all of you tonight on [Mr. PALLONE] was talking about. In- tion, to try to correct that problem. this issue. stead of going to them, it is going to We did not remove the monitoring Mr. BROWN of Ohio. I thank my insurance executives. It is going to the mechanism and the way to make sure friend from Connecticut, who has done people at Golden Rule, in Indiana, to that these restrictions on fraud and such a marvelous job in showing lead- the Blue Cross/Blue Shield. Those are abuse would be lifted, rather than to ership, in not just protecting Medicare the people that Mr. GINGRICH was look at them and refine it, the whole against major budget cuts from Speak- speaking to that day. It is one thing issue of holding down the costs, be- er GINGRICH and Mr. Dole, but also of- after another that way. cause our colleagues on the other side fering alternatives to strengthen Medi- Mr. Speaker, the reason Medicare of the aisle will say they are trying to care and make it work for the next will wither on the vine under the Ging- hold costs down. generation. rich plan is he will cut the amount of What is amazing to me is they only I would add on one thing to what the money in it with the tax breaks. We want to hold the costs down for Ameri- gentlewoman from Connecticut said, will see more of the health care dollars ca’s seniors and for working families. when she talked about holding down going to insurance companies so that You can hold the costs down, but in costs. Mr. GINGRICH, in talking about senior citizens will have even less, and order to hold the costs down all over in Medicare withering on the vine and Mr. then the system literally does wither the health care system, you have to Dole saying it would not work when he on the vine. hold the costs down in insurance com- voted against it 30 years ago, and Mr. He was speaking correctly when he panies, on hospitals, on doctors, on THOMAS calling it socialized medicine, said it would wither on the vine under pharmaceutical companies, and every- and on and on and on, they want to in- his proposal. He was not lying to the one else. Why are we just singling out crease costs to senior citizens. They American people if he gets his way. But seniors to do that with, and thereby in- want to double the premiums and he is not going to get his way because creasing their premiums and copays and deductibles. But they really the four of us and dozens of others in deductibles? They are not talking see Medicare as sort of a piggy bank, this body will continue to fight that. about doing anything about holding that you have this big pot of money, a The President will continue to fight costs down in any other place in the slush fund or piggy bank, whatever that. Clearly, the American people system. term you want to use. have been on our side because the Re- Also, another point, where they held b 1645 publicans shut the Government down up their trustees’ report and talked in order to give this big tax break and about how the trustees said we had to Medicare is a big program. A lot of make Medicare cuts. fix the program, that was $90 billion. money goes through Medicare every So it is clear that the more people We voted here for a democratic bill year in taking care of tens of millions know about the Gingrich-Dole plan on that talked about $90 billion, the dif- of seniors’ health care. What has hap- Medicare, that they want to double ference now between $90 and $270 and pened is they first want to raid this premiums and increase copays and in- that tax break of $245 billion for the piggybank or slush fund to the tune of crease deductibles, the more the people wealthiest Americans. Now Mr. Dole $270 billion in tax breaks, mostly for will be unhappy about it. comes up here and he says to us that he the rich. Now that Mr. Dole has pro- I yield to my friend from New Jersey. wants a tax cut, and he is going to look posed a bigger tax break, they want to Mr. PALLONE. I also wanted to say, at $600 billion in a tax cut, and we cut it even more. I know the gentleman mentioned Med- know through CBO and others about Mr. Speaker, they also want to raid icaid as well, and we talked about that that potentially $300 billion in a cut for it in another way, and that is some of a little, and the same phenomena, par- Medicare? the programs they have, so that Medi- ticularly by reference to what it means My point is that we know there care does in fact wither on the vine. for people other than seniors, their ought to be changes, but the question Mr. GINGRICH has proposed something children and grandchildren. A part of is, and I know my colleagues have called medical savings accounts, which the Republican leadership strategy talked about this already, but the lit- allows insurance companies to raid this from the beginning has been to also cut any from the leadership on the other piggybank or raid this slush fund. back on Medicaid, and the majority of side of the aisle about fixing this pro- It is no secret or it is no coincidence, the money in Medicaid right now pays gram ought to put the fear of God into I should say, that, when Mr. GINGRICH for nursing home care. So, again, it pri- the public and give a sense of who can made his little speech about Medicare marily deals with taking care of the they trust on this issue? Mr. Dole, who withering on the vine when he said we health care needs of the senior citizens. talked about being proud of being 1 of did not get rid of Medicare in round We fought a very hard battle, you 12 that he voted against Medicare be- one because we did not think it was po- and each of the four people and the cause it was a program that did not litically smart to do that, and we do others that spoke here this afternoon, work? Our colleague, BILL THOMAS, not think it is the right way to go in trying to make sure that Medicaid who not just a month ago on this floor through a transition, but we believe it was not cut back and also that it was talked about Medicare as a socialist is going to wither on the vine. When not block granted. If it was block system? The majority leader on the Mr. GINGRICH said that back in October granted and it was cut significantly, I other side, saying that this is a pro- of 1995, he was speaking to a group of think what you would have seen essen- gram that he would not be part of in insurance company executives, all of tially is that the States, in taking on the free world? Mr. GINGRICH, talking whom will benefit from his Medicare more responsibility and relaxation of about it withering on the vine? Mr. plan. Federal standards and Federal require- D’AMATO, from the other body, talking So, first of all, he takes money out of ments, basically would have shifted about how with this new Dole tax plan, Medicare to go to a tax break for the more and more of the Medicaid burden, that he believes and knows that there richest Americans. Then the money the nursing home burden, if you will, are going to have to be drastic cuts in that is left in Medicare will not be to children, to spouses, to grand- the Medicare program? spent on senior citizen health care to children. It is a question of who do you trust the same degree that it is now. The Right now, as we all know and we to fix the program, a good program money that is left, much of it will go have talked about this before, a State that could be made better. That is to those insurance companies for big- cannot go after a spouse for certain what this is about. And that is why I ger profits and more money for them. purposes. They cannot take their think it is an education process for the So we see already a declining amount home. They cannot take their car. American people to understand this de- of money in Medicare as a result of the They have to leave them a certain September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10205 amount of living expenses if one’s to live in poverty. So what we are try- It was a very tough decision for her spouse is in a nursing home. They can- ing to do here is keep all the units of to put her husband in the nursing not go after children or grandchildren the family solvent. We are talking home. She said: He is getting wonderful to pay for Medicaid nursing home ex- about kids who want to go to school. care and they are taking good care of penses. But the Republican legislation We want to support the student loan him. And she says: I would not be able that was before the House last year and program. They wanted to cut it back. to do that, I cannot do that if some- again this year basically would have We are talking about elderly parents thing should jeopardize all of that. eliminated those requirements and al- who may need nursing home care. We That is what we were looking at. lowed the States to go after those peo- want to make sure that it is there for And, quite frankly, my concern is that ple in order to recover costs. them in terms of Medicaid. They want- we beat that battle back one time. It So what we would have seen is the ed to repeal the whole program, not was the American public, the outrage cuts in Medicaid to finance these tax only repeal the program but do away of the American public on what was breaks primarily for wealthy individ- with the regulations that allowed our going to happen. Now we listen to peo- uals. More of the costs would have been parents and grandparents who may ple over and over again coming back shifted to the spouse, who is still living have to have nursing home care to live and talking about the same things at home, to the children, to the grand- with some sense of dignity, where they again; that they are not—— children. Again, there is no free lunch. are not tied up, where they are not Mr. BROWN of Ohio. The same thing, The end result of that would have been gagged or fed improperly or abused, as only worse, I would add, because now hardship for those people, hardship for they were prior to the government the tax break mostly for the wealthy is children who instead of paying college making regulations to stop this sort of twice the size Mr. GINGRICH and Mr. costs, which are a big burden for them, abuse of our parents and grandparents. DOLE originally planned, which means, for their children, would end up having So the gentleman from new Jersey I guess, they will not tell us, but we to pay for nursing home care for their [Mr. PALLONE] is right on in terms of have to figure it will mean twice as parents. dealing with this question of the bur- large a cut in student loans, twice as Mr. Speaker, that is the kind of shift- den of leadership shift, and it will shift large a cut in the environment and ing of costs that really bothers me. The dramatically, as it has in instances al- twice as large a cut in Medicare or other side of the aisle, GINGRICH and ready, to those folks at home who have Medicaid or twice as large an increase the Republican leadership, they want children and who have aging parents as in premiums, deductibles and co-pays. to give the impression that we can well. They simply will not tell us. Ms. DELAURO. If the gentleman make these cuts in Medicare and Med- I yield to the gentleman from Michi- would yield just on that point. icaid and it is not going to matter. It gan [Mr. BONIOR]. Mr. BROWN of Ohio. I yield to the Mr. BONIOR. This goal of the Ging- is not a big deal. gentlewoman. They keep saying we are really only rich-Dole-Kemp plan here is indeed a Ms. DELAURO. Mr. Speaker, it is so bridge to the past, to pick up on a met- cutting the growth, we are not doing clear. Nursing home care and what the anything that will harm anybody. But proposal was with regard to Medicaid aphor that has been thrown around the it has a direct impact in the shifting of really gets into the heart and soul of last few weeks. They are reaching deep costs not only to the senior citizens what families are struggling with into the past to a day where we did not but also to their families. That is what today. have Medicare for our grandparents, I think we fought very hard against It is a very difficult decision to send where we did not have Medicaid that and we have to keep fighting for. a loved one to a nursing home. You would take care of nursing homes, or Mr. BONIOR. Would the gentleman make it with a sense of, am I doing the we do not have help for our students. yield on that? right thing for my elderly grand- It is quite bizarre, especially given Mr. BROWN of Ohio. I yield to the parents or parents; am I making the the fact that my colleagues on the gentleman. right decision for them, for me; what other side of the aisle consider them- Mr. BONIOR. The gentleman makes a happens with my children? selves the epitome of futurism, the fu- very good point. We are not talking And this whole Medicaid proposal turist ideas that they were espousing here about something that will affect that says the money goes to the State, at the beginning of the Congress. And just seniors in this country, as he has States will make a determination and yet where do they want to take us? so eloquently just stated. We are talk- make a choice between whether or not They want to take us way back when ing about the family who has kids com- they spend their Medicaid dollars on the security for the family was non- ing up and maybe want to go to col- children or on seniors in nursing existent basically in this country, in lege, and they have aging parents who homes. They were going to remove the many ways. may need nursing home care or who national standards on nursing home So it is very, very perplexing. What may be on Medicare. When these things care, as has been pointed out, put the we need to do is build on the programs occur at that level of reduction, for our burdens on spouses and adult children. that we have, streamling them, making parents and our grandparents who are Once again it was turned around. them more efficient but making sure 65 and older, and who may need nursing Suppose we find ourselves in a situa- that they are there so that people will home care and need that Medicaid pay- tion where our parent, if this went have the opportunity to lead produc- ment, then those responsibilities and through, if we were not able to hold it tive and good lives. those pressures and those demands fall back this time around, that the family Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Think about the on people that are basically our age would then, having made the decision programs, and there are certainly Gov- here who have kids and then who have of putting someone in a nursing home, ernment programs that have wasted parents who are getting up there in have to take the person back into their dollars and Government programs that age. home. What kind of cost is that? What have not worked, but think of the two That financial pressure is just quite kind of help do I provide—— programs we are talking about most incredible not only financially but Mr. BONIOR. If the gentlewoman today, a couple or three programs, mentally as well, the stress of having would yield. The cost is about $39,000 a Medicare and student loans. to make that decision whether you are year for nursing home care. It is a phe- Medicare has lifted millions of the el- going to send your son or daughter to nomenal cost. derly out of poverty in the last decade college or you are going to take care of Ms. DELAURO. It really is. I went to or two or three of their lives. Student your parent. speak to the Milford Senior Center yes- loans have provided opportunities for Mr. Speaker, this was something that terday. They have their club today. millions of middle class families to occurred on a very regular basis prior There were about 200 people. And we send their children to college. to 1965, before we had Medicare, before were talking about this, and we were Both programs obviously can use we had a Medicaid program in this talking about the nursing home care. some adjustment, but it is clear from country. What was occurring is when After it, a woman came up to me. She what Mr. Dole’s campaign manager elderly people got ill, either their kids says, you know, she says, I rely on the said, Senator D’AMATO said, what Mr. basically took care of them or they had nursing home. My husband is there. Kemp, what Mr. Dole, Mr. GINGRICH H10206 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 said, that they really want to elimi- gram where if you are below a certain give parents the peace of mind that nate these programs in the next dec- income, I think it may be probably they have the opportunity to get insur- ade. They are two programs that work close to $20,000 now for a two-family ance for their kids and make that more so very well for middle class America, household, where if you are below that affordable. for poor America, for everybody. income, the casino revenue money pays Mr. BROWN of Ohio. And to ulti- Mr. BONIOR. On top of that, let me for your prescription drugs. You have mately save money so the 12-year-old tell my colleagues what is especially to pay like $5, but then you get the rest child with the cold will go to the fam- disturbing to me. I remember picking of the prescription drug for free, paid ily doctor rather than waiting until up maybe 18 months ago the first vol- for with the casino money. she is sicker and going to an emer- ume of the Progress in Freedom Foun- Also the State has experimented, I gency room. dation’s newsletter, that is the founda- know other States have as well, with Ms. DELAURO. So the point is, where tion founded by the Speaker, Mr. GING- home health care. In other words, do we need to go, as my colleague from RICH. And in their newsletter, actually where over and above Medicare right New Jersey said, with regard to im- it was more of a newspaper as opposed now, they will pay for a certain type of proving Medicare. We need to look at to a newsletter, I remember vividly home health care cost on an experi- home health care, which can save us reading the headlines. And it was, for mental basis. All the seniors kept tell- money. We need to look at the cost of heaven’s sake eliminate Social Secu- ing me the whole time is, why are you prescription drugs to bring that cost rity. guys talking about these negative down. What is it, what is it in the That is where they are going next. changes, if you will, that the Repub- mindset that says, let us unravel the That is where they are headed next. licans are proposing on Medicare. Why one system that we have that is ap- And they have already got their think not think of some positive ways to save proaching coverage of most of the pop- tanks working, they are already talk- money through prevention or through ulation, thereby holding the cost down ing about it. And we told, folks, that dealing with long-term care problems. and not build on it but rather unravel they were coming after Medicare. And And it is true. There is no question it and go back to where it is helter- the proof is in their own words as we that in New Jersey, once that prescrip- skelter, when we ought to be moving in have mentioned here on several occa- tion drug benefit came into play with the direction of trying to cover more sions this evening in this 1 hour special the casino revenue money, which we and more people today who are without order: wither on the vine, proud to were fortunate to have, that it saved a insurance and to look at preventative have voted against it, no place in the lot of money for people that did not measures. It is, as our colleague from free world. And now they got folks have to be hospitalized or did not have Michigan said, it is a bridge to the past working on getting rid of the Social to be placed in nursing homes or board- and not the bridge to the future that Security System. ing homes. And the same with the we need to be making in order to as- sure affordable good quality health b 1700 home health care. They have personal care, attendant care for everyone in this country. It has been a lifesaver for people in service for certain people that come in Mr. BONIOR. I will try to answer this country. so that they can stay in their apart- your question in terms of the mindset. Mr. BROWN of Ohio. There are the ment or stay in their house. Over and It is the same mindset that denies intellectuals, quote unquote, in the over again, studies have been done for proper labor guarantees in this country Gingrich revolution that sit over at the the House of Representatives, for var- so people can bargain and organize in Heritage Foundation or sit over in ious committees, that show if you this country. It is the same mindset their ivory towers and somewhere move in that direction, that ultimately that, because of that, allows the soci- around the Capitol in one of these real- you will save money because you pre- ety to become one that hires people ly fancy buildings and think up all vent institutionalized care, which is so who are temporary employees. The these great ideas and are totally out of much more expensive. We do not hear largest employer in the country is tem- touch with Margie in Macomb County about that from our colleagues on the porary manpower services now. and totally out of touch with the other side of the aisle. They just want It is the same mindset that has these woman that Ms. DELAURO talked to talk about scrapping Medicare, hav- folks working in our society without about, that have real problems, living ing it wither on the vine. health insurance, without any pen- on $8,000 a year, that struggle, that Ms. DELAURO. That is such a rel- sions, certainly without any pension were able to send their kids to college evant point, because what all of the portability, and without many of the on student loans, that need their So- data indicates is that the point was, in other benefits that were fought for, cial Security, that use Medicare in the terms of health insurance, that you gained, and took us successfully, at the last couple of decades of their lives. spread the risk so that the more people conclusion of the Second World War, They are coming up with these ideas who are insured and who are covered, into a very productive, most produc- and then these are the ideas they are that is the way that you bring costs tive period in our history during the trying to foist on the American people down. When you are operating in 2 sys- 1950’s and 1960’s. out of some think tank. The Social Se- tems, if you will, with people who have There is a huge retrenchment, there curity, Medicare, student loans, we are it and people who do not have it, people is a huge bridge to the past, pre-World going to keep fighting for it because who do not have it get their health War II, pre-1930’s, and it is very, very those are important and those have care from somewhere and that cost scary. It is very, very scary. Where the made millions of Americans who have does not go into a vapor. Everybody protections of working men and women brought them into the middle class and else who does have it picks up that in this country are gone and the edu- kept them in the middle class. That is cost. cational opportunities for our young what all of us should be here for. So the whole point has been, how do people are becoming harder and harder Mr. PALLONE. I just wanted to fol- we get more people insured to lower to realize. And of course this assault on low up. It is funny you are talking the cost of health care. What we ought our seniors, their attacks on Medicare about these Washington think tanks. I to be doing is thinking about that fu- and Medicaid, and eventually, I pre- was just harking back to during the ture, of insuring more people. We have dict, Social Security, if they are con- August district work period when we only one system today where 99 per- tinued in power. So it is something were not in Washington, I had a lot of cent of the population are covered, and that is worth fighting for, that we have senior forums. Over and over again, I that is Medicare for seniors. fought for and will continue to do so. just got these commonsense ap- And one of the items on the agenda, Mr. BROWN of Ohio. I think, in sum- proaches from the seniors in my dis- the Families First agenda that the mary, we have a couple more minutes, trict about what to do to improve Med- Democrats have proposed for imple- thinking about the bridge to the future icare. And they all talked about long- menting after January 1 is to see if we and making the student loan program, term care, preventative measures. can try to insure children from zero to particularly the direct loan program, In New Jersey, we have with the ca- 13 so that we have got another pool of work, make it available to people, sino revenue fund. We refinance a pro- people covered for insurance, again, to make Medicare continue to improve September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10207 Medicare and Medicaid so that we can recently become known, even though The Health Care Task Force, and of deal with the increasing costs but con- this memo was written on December 13, course we know that that resulted in tinue to cover people and continue to 1994. litigation against Hillary Rodham give people, lift people out of poverty, No. 1, Foster document handling. We Clinton’s task force. We know that a as we have done, contrasted with this will return shortly to the specifics con- Federal judge ruled against the task bridge to the past that we have talked tained in this memo on each of these. force, and found that it was put to- about where we do not want to go back There are several admissions of illegal- gether in violation of the Federal Advi- to the days when, before the GI bill, ity in this very memo. sory Committee Act and that docu- when there were not opportunities for Travel Office. We know all about ments were withheld from the public middle-class families to send their chil- Travelgate, of course. That has become and from Congress when they should dren or themselves to college. a major scandal just as they predicted not have been. We do not want to go back prior to in here. Now there are 39 of these scandals the 1930’s, when there was not a Social White House-Treasury contacts. Of that White House staff—there is a Security Program. We do not want to course, we know about the illegal con- name of a White House staffer right go back to the period before 1965, when tacts between senior political ap- after each one of these, after each one there was not Medicare or Medicaid, pointees at the Department of the of these scandals, and they were all as- when 50 percent, 54 percent, I guess, of Treasury and the White House, tipping signed and presumably are all still senior citizens in this country had no off the President, giving a heads up to working at taxpayer expense on pre- health insurance prior to the mid- the President and Mrs. Clinton about venting the Congress from getting to 1960’s, and now only 1 percent has no the criminal referral of the Whitewater know all of the facts in these things. health insurance. There is no reason to matter. White House operations, drugs, Obstruction of justice, I am reading go back. That is why we need to look passes, helicopters, and does that not this from the White House internal forward. ring a bell for so many of us? Each of memo, obstruction of justice re DOJ I think the commitment, certainly those scandals, drugs in the White handling of criminal referrals. Use of from all four of us and many others House, the passes being given to people White House resources for response ef- here, is to continue to improve Medi- without personnel clearances, the mis- forts. Of course, that is what this care, continue to improve Medicaid, use of helicopters which resulted in the memo is all about, but that is one of continue to improve the direct loan termination of White House staff; this the scandals that is listed here. This program, student loans overall, student is next on the White House, the Clin- entire memo is devoted to how to spin grants, to take care of the elderly and ton, list of scandals that they were the press about the various scandals. to protect our natural resources by working on secretly in the White Foster suicide. Espy. Of course we good environmental protection meas- House. know that Mr. Smaltz was assigned as ures and to continue to give students Residence renovations. This is one an independent counsel to investigate opportunities, middle-class families, that they believed was a potential the Mike Espy ethics question. We poor kids, give them opportunities that scandal, but the American people do know about the criminal problems with they can produce and they can give not yet know about it. We have just re- Tysons there. Henry Cisneros, Ron back to society. ceived this document. Brown, Hubbell. Of course, we all know I think that is what we are asking, Presidential immunity. Well, of about the next top ranking man at the and it is a rejection of these tax breaks course, we know that that is all having White House right underneath the At- for the rich to make all of these cuts in to do with the Paula Jones litigation, torney General, Webster Hubbell, who programs that matter, Medicare, stu- Paula Jones having sued the Governor is now in jail. of Arkansas for acts in his capacity, dent loans, environment, but instead to Ickes, union representation. And of not as Governor but as a private indi- make these programs more efficient, course with Coia and all that ABC vidual apparently abusing the office, at make them work, bridge to the future News has done on this scandal just in least according to the allegations in so that students will have that oppor- recent days, we now know why in 1994 the complaint, and the President has tunity so all of us can grow together. they were worried about that. I thank my friends from New Jersey, Stephanopoulos, Nation’s Bank. used not outside lawyers but taxpayer Michigan, and Connecticut. Again, this is a White House memo supported lawyers to make sure that f that they prepared secretly inside the his private civil litigation could be put off until afterward. This is, by the way, WHITE HOUSE TASK LIST White House using taxpayer resources and in the White House counsel’s of- something that the courts have now re- The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. fice, which they should not have been versed on and they have decided that ROTH). Under the Speaker’s announced doing. That is not appropriate use of President Clinton cannot put this off, policy of May 12, 1995, the gentleman taxpayer funds. They have listed all of but he has successfully put it off be- from California [Mr. COX] is recognized these scandals that they wanted to yond the election. for 60 minutes as the designee of the innoculate against and spin the press White House Arkansans, Thomasson, majority leader. Nash, Rasco; need we say more? Mr. COX of California. Mr. Speaker, I about. The Stephanopoulos-Nation’s Bank PIC surplus. rise this afternoon to talk about a doc- story was of course what the press Improper electioneering at the SBA. ument that was recently provided, very Now these are all admissions by the widely described as a sweetheart, below belatedly, by the White House to the Clinton White House to themselves market mortgage for George Congress, a document now referred to within the White House internally of Stephanopoulos, the kind of deal that as the task list. It is dated December what they were doing wrong. ordinary Americans could not get. 13, 1994, but it was just provided to the GSA. Congress in recent days. The task list b 1715 Value Partners. Now Value Partners shows 39 scandals that the White House State Department passport files; an- was, of course, the partnership that staff in the West Wing, taxpayer sup- other Clinton administration scandal Hillary Rodham Clinton invested in. ported staff, decided that they needed that we are so familiar with. Rather than putting their funds in a to work on because there was now Archives abuse of personal system. blind trust, they did not do so like going to be a Republican Congress. This is one scandal that they have not President Bush did, like President This memo was prepared just after the fully disclosed to us and that we will Reagan did, like President Carter did; November 1994 elections. find out more about. rather, ran their own investments, and I would like to read just briefly the The Legal Defense Fund, and of Hillary Rodham Clinton was a partner scandals that the White House decided course we know all about the ethical in Value Partners, a hedge fund which that it needed to task its own staff to problems that the President encoun- sold short pharmaceutical stocks at a work on. Some of these scandals are, of tered there, soliciting funds for the time that the pharmaceutical stock course, well known to the American Legal Defense Fund when such solicita- market was falling through the floor people, but other scandals have only tion is, in fact, in violation of the law. because of the Hillary Rodham Clinton H10208 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 Task Force, and that was, of course, Mr. WALKER. If the gentleman describe the strategy for dealing with scandal number 7 or so up here on the would yield before the gentleman each of these scandals so that anyone list. moves on, could I just clarify in my trying to investigate would not be able Presidential campaign, FEC audit. own mind what the gentleman is tell- to get to the bottom of it, and I will Commodities. ing us about the memo itself? Do I un- give you one example. Now of course we know what the derstand the gentleman to say that One page 4 of this memo there is a commodities is all about. That is the this is not a memo prepared by any heading, ‘‘Security,’’ by which they miraculous fortune that Hillary congressional committee or any orga- mean White House security slash Liv- Rodham Clinton made on the invest- nization here on Capitol Hill, or for ingstone issues. ment of a mere thousand dollars in the that matter, any outside organization? Now keep in mind that this was cattle futures market. Do I understand the gentleman cor- dated December 13, 1994. You may re- Gubernatorial campaigns; Lindsey, rectly? This is a memo that was pre- call approximately when Craig Living- Wright, recordkeeping. There is more pared inside the White House? stone came upon the national scene, in this memo about that later on, but Mr. COX of California. That is cor- became a household name because of of course we know that in connection rect. This document called the White that Clinton scandal. It was not in 1994, with the Whitewater criminal prosecu- House task list is dated December 13, but in 1996, 2 years later. But listen to tion that Mr. Lindsey was named as an 1994. It was compiled by an associate what this memo says back in 1994. unindicted coconspirator. counsel to the President, Jane ‘‘Review Livingstone file.’’ Gubernatorial campaigns dash Sherburne. Her initials are on it, and it Now, presumably they did. MGSL, and that means Morgan Guar- lists all of the scandals that she antici- ‘‘Interview Livingstone.’’ anty Savings and Loan. The S&L at the pated would plague the Clinton admin- They wanted, apparently, to deal heart of the Whitewater scandal was istration and that Congress was now with Livingstone problems back in apparently involved in gubernatorial likely to look into because in 1994 we 1994, all of which were covered up so campaigns, gubernatorial campaigns had just been elected, a Republican that the Congress and the American back in Arkansas that the White House Congress, not yet sworn into office, and people did not find out about them and counsel were working on in this admin- this memo explains how they were did not find out at all about Filegate, istration in the White House, 1994, De- going to make sure that Congress did literally hundreds of files on Repub- cember, with taxpayer funds. not—— licans who had worked in the White And then the next scandal is Mr. WALKER. That is what I wanted House in previous administrations, FBI Whitewater slash Morgan Guaranty to clarify. files which had been collected by this Savings and Loan. Now the date the gentleman has White House under Craig Livingston. Other: MGSL slash McDougal, right given us is December 13, 1994, which is Mr. WALKER. Okay, but if I can just below that. a matter of a few weeks after Repub- follow up on the gentleman for another Rose law firm, the next scandal. licans have taken over the Congress. moment. HRC, and that is Hillary Rodham Clin- Now they had had no problem up until So what we have here is a memo that ton, worked for Morgan Guarantee then because literally all of the calls was prepared internally within the S&L. for investigation of White House poten- White House suggesting that they David Hale slash Susan McDougal tial problems had been buried on Cap- knew that they had a series of scandals slash SBA, and there are different itol Hill. that Congress was likely to investigate White House staffers assigned to it. But now, if I understand the gen- and that they had reason to be worring Tucker, and of course Tucker is now tleman correctly, this memo is pre- about. in jail, the Governor, or headed for jail. pared because they now anticipated Is that what we believe we have in Next: Lasater, bond deals, cocaine, that they would have some problems front of us? Roger Clinton. with the new Congress that would obvi- Mr. COX of California. That is pre- Now this is not a Member of Congress ously not be friendly on some of these cisely this memo. I will give you an- reading things to impugn the White issues and would actually likely inves- other example if you wish. House. This is a White House memo tigate some of the scandals. Mr. WALKER. Now, if this was an in- that says ‘‘privileged’’ on it because it Is that the gentleman’s impression? ternal document within the White is being handled by lawyers in the Mr. COX of California. That is ex- House, how do we now have it? White House counsel’s office at tax- actly right, and it is rather clear that Mr. COX of California. Well, of course payer expense for Bill Clinton, that Jane Sherburne, the associate White we had to subpoena it, we had to was requested by the Congress and was House counsel who personally drew up threaten to subpoena it, because we not turned over to us until just now. this list of all of these scandals, was asked for all of the Travelgate memos Lasater, bond deals, cocaine, Roger prescient. While they were claiming no to be turned over. Travelgate, which Clinton was the next scandal that they wrongdoing, behind the scenes they was another Clinton White House scan- have tasked White House staff to work were putting together memorandums dal, involved the firing and smearing, on. like this, and the result in the ensuring through the use of the EBI, of what we Use of loans to achieve legislative years has been that 5 of Bill Clinton’s now know were honest and innocent initiatives. This is a new one that we closest associates, including his Attor- White House civilian career employees. were not aware of, but apparently they ney General and including the Gov- Mr. WALKER. So the only way that were working to cover that up. ernor of Arkansas, have since been con- this memo came to light was the fact Mena Airport. Well, we all know victed of crimes. that Congress was subpoenaing docu- about the drugs and deaths surround- Mr. WALKER. So what they were ments. Now, was this particular memo ing Mena airport while Bill Clinton was doing here was they decided that, ‘‘OK, withheld from Congress for a while? Governor. we’ve got a problem. We’ve got a Con- Mr. COX of California. For a very Troopers, another scandal, the so- gress that is likely to begin looking long while, The request for 3,000 pages called Troopergate scandal, and then into things that have gone wrong in was originally described not all that there is a whole category here of scan- this administration.’’ long ago by the White House as a re- dal, women. That was during the Clin- And so is the gentleman telling us quest for toilet paper, that this was a ton campaign when President Clinton that what they did was they prepared a trivial request, that they should not be was running in 1992, his own campaign, list of everything that they thought asked for such documents. When fi- not Republicans but his own campaign, Congress might look into where they nally we got the first 1,000 pages of the referred to as bimbo eruptions. had themselves a big problem? 3,000 that we requested, we got the fa- Now this memo goes on in the case of Mr. COX of California. That is ex- mous list of all of the FBI files, the each scandal to describe tasks to be actly right, and furthermore, what I background files, the very, very con- performed and strategy for dealing have just covered is the list of the fidential law enforcement background with that particular scandal. names of these scandals, but the memo, files, on people who had worked in the Let me give you one example. which is quite lengthy, goes on then to White House. These had been collected September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10209 illegally by the White House for pa- and cooperate and show there was ate counsel to the President myself in tently political purposes. nothing to be concerned about, you the White House counsel’s office, I Mr. WALKER. And so for a while the would simply make the information could not be more familiar with the White House was claiming that this in- public. But here they say they want to distinguished history of the White formation was in fact information that determine a strategy re release of House counsel’s office and its authentic no one had the right to know, not even Whitewater file. purpose. the Congress, when originally the ‘‘Under search of Foster office’’, an- The reason that the White House memo was prepared because they be- other heading, they have this item to counsel has a five-decade history of lieved that Congress would want to do: legal research on the basis for re- serving Presidents from both parties is know about these matters. sisting identification and production of that its mission is to protect the Presi- b 1730 all documents in Vince Foster’s office dent and the Presidency from illegal and Bernie’s safe. So they wanted to go acts or from any kind of trouble aris- Mr. COX of California. Precisely. In and do legal research so they could ing during his course or her course, fact, while we learn about this same come up with a legal pretext for resist- should we have a woman President one process in what turns out to be pulling ing identifying and producing all docu- of these days, of administration during teeth from the White House, trying to ments in Vince Foster’s office and Ber- the course of office. get them to cooperate, because they nie’s safe. That is the kind of memo. It is for the President’s official ac- are claiming executive privilege about Mr. WALKER. So what we have here tivities, not for his tax returns, his per- all of these things so they do not have is a memo designed to look into all of sonal tax returns, and certainly not for to do anything cooperative with the the ways in which they could resist any his private investments, and certainly Congress, they first gave us 1,000 of the kind of investigation on Capitol Hill; not for the criminal investigation or 3,000 pages. And in that first batch of and is it possible that some of this was prosecution of his friends and cronies documents which we got under a threat also designed to resist any investiga- from Arkansas or even elsewhere in the of subpoena, we found out about tion by a special counsel? administration. But that is exactly Filegate and all of the FBI files that Mr. COX of California. I do not think what this White House counsel’s office had been collected on senior officials, there is much question about that. has been doing. including James Baker and others well Under the heading ‘‘Obstruction of jus- I will tell you, when I worked in the known. tice,’’ and I have to repeat, because White House counsel’s office in a pre- But we did not get this memo. It was otherwise this sounds—— vious administration, we did not look only 2 weeks ago, on August 15, that we Mr. WALKER. They believed they at the President’s tax returns. That got this memo. This is brand new, and had a problem with obstruction of jus- was done at the President’s personal almost no one, even many of our col- tice? expense by the President’s own private leagues here in Congress, has yet had Mr. COX of California. It is the very law firm. But in this White House the opportunity to read this, but it is heading in their own memo, ‘‘Obstruc- counsel’s office, Vince Foster at the clearly shocking. tion of justice.’’ This is prepared by the time of his death was actually working Mr. WALKER. So while White House White House counsel’s office, analyzing on the Whitewater partnership tax re- spokesmen like the press secretary, the legal problems of the Clinton ad- turn. That is what he was doing in the Mr. McCurry, and even officials within ministration. West Wing of the White House at Gov- the White House, have gone to the Mr. WALKER. So in 1994 the legal ernment expense. American public and suggested to them counsel’s office believes that the White It is a perversion and abuse of that that there is absolutely no substance House could have a problem with ob- function, and it is obviously all the to any of the scandals that have been struction of justice? more poignant when one reads this discussed on Capitol Hill and that Con- Mr. COX of California. It does not say very long memo called the task list of gress should be embarrassed to look ‘‘could,’’ it says ‘‘Obstruction of jus- some 39 separate scandals identified by into these matters, they internally had tice,’’ and underneath that it says the Clinton administration, all being prepared a document which suggested ‘‘Delay in addressing criminal refer- handled in that White House counsel’s that all of those scandals were real, rals, Department of Justice role.’’ office. and in fact, that they were very wor- Under that it says, ‘‘Determine usual Mr. WALKER. If I understand what ried about them? process.’’ Think of what it is that we the gentleman has told us, you have Mr. COX of California. Correct. Not are talking about here. The delay in the White House counsel’s office pre- only were they very worried about addressing the criminal referrals, that paring a memo on how to evade exam- them, but what is outlined in this was, of course, the delay in referring ination by the Congress of matters memo is a specific step-by-step plan to for criminal prosecution the whole that they believed were of serious con- keep the Congress and the American Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan cern, and also how to evade potential people from finding out the truth. default and collapse at taxpayer ex- legal prosecution for some of the Mr. WALKER. So this is not just a pense. things that may in fact be illegal? listing of the scandals they are worried The job for the White House counsel, Mr. COX of California. That is cor- about, this is a listing on how they are and remember, this is now Whitewater, rect; and also how to conjure, after the going to cover it up? this is the real Whitewater business, fact, legal justifications and pretext Mr. COX of California. Let me read with Madison Guarantee and the for sins of omission and commission al- it. Here the issue is ‘‘chain of custody Whitewater loan transactions and so ready occurred. re transfer of Clinton personal files.’’ on. We have the White House counsel, Mr. WALKER. Is there any precedent Of course, we are talking about the the lawyers for the President of the for the White House legal counsel’s of- Whitewater files here, because these United Stats in his official capacity, fice, for the White House counsel’s of- have not been turned over. They have working at taxpayer expense to do this fice, to be the perpetrator of a memo not been made public. The President task: Determine usual process, so we designed to bring about a cover-up? has not come clean and cooperated on can find out how they should have done Mr. COX of California. To the con- this. it, because obviously they know they trary. In past administrations, the role Here is an item on the to do list: did not do it the usual way, so they had of the White House counsel’s office has ‘‘Determine strategy re release of to look up, after the fact, what would been to facilitate the flow of informa- Whitewater file.’’ They wanted to de- have been the usual way to handle the tion, to make sure that when a ques- termine their strategy for releasing Whitewater transaction. tion arises in connection with a poten- this. This was not a decision to share Mr. WALKER. Is the White House tial scandal or an accusation of law- with the public, they want to find out counsel’s office even supposed to be en- breaking, that all of the relevant infor- how they can selectively make this gaged in this kind of thing? mation is shared not only with law en- available. I do not know what else a Mr. COX of California. This is one of forcement authorities or an independ- strategy re release of files is. If you the reasons why I am here on the floor ent counsel, but also with the Con- were going to share the information this evening, because as senior associ- gress. H10210 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 I can tell the Members that in the tween the highest levels of the Treas- nately, now executive privilege in this Bush administration, in the Reagan ad- ury Department and the White House, administration is coming to be a syno- ministration where I served, and I am tipping them off as to pending inves- nym for coverup. sure that this is true also of the Carter tigations, when that was a complete Consider just a few items on page 10 administration, the Ford administra- violation of normal procedure. ‘‘Pre- of the task force memo. We have under tion, that if there was a question of the pare press strategy’’ is what they have the heading ‘‘Whitewater investment’’, President breaking the law, if there on their list here. ‘‘Press strategy.’’ It is all sort of the was a suspicion that the White House So when you see a representative of Dick Morris spin of how are we going staff might themselves to be complicit the White House in the press room or a to pretend to be talking truthfully to in law-breaking, then no claim of exec- representative of the Treasury in the the American people on these issues utive privilege would be used to shield press room coming clean with the when, in fact, it is all a strategem? that person from proper inquiry by the press, what they are really doing is Take a look here under the heading law enforcement authorities or by Con- executing on a strategy that was con- ‘‘MGSL,’’ Madison Guaranty Savings & gress in fulfillment of its oversight re- cocted all the way back in December Loan, where they say ‘‘Rose Law Firm sponsibilities. 1994 to prevent the American people work, HRC,’’ Hillary Rodham Clinton; To the contrary, this administration and the Congress from learning the A, conflicts; B, enabled Madison Guar- has asserted executive privilege, up truth. anty to stay open longer than it should until August 15; over this very docu- Mr. WALKER. I think this is one of have. What an admission in a docu- ment. Executive privilege is not meant the more incredible documents that we ment we did not get until 2 weeks ago. to be a shield for White House staff have had released. Of course, it was re- Mr. WALKER. I would agree with the who are accused of criminal misdeeds. leased under duress. The committee gentleman, that is a fairly big item. In Neither is it supposed to be a shield for literally was told for months that other words, they knew that some of the President’s own personal invest- these kinds of documents did not exist the work done by the Rose Law Firm ment problems. Rather, it is meant to in the White House, and that the com- enabled the Madison Guaranty Savings protect the Nation and the national se- mittee had no right to be asking for & Loan to stay open longer than it curity. them, and then only under extreme cir- should have, and those were the kinds Mr. WALKER. Am I not correct that cumstances did this particular memo of institutions, as I recall, that cost a number of people who are tasked on come to light. the taxpayers millions of dollars when this memo, it is called a task list, as I Now we find out within this memo these savings and loans stayed open understand it, a number of the people that, in fact, there was a plan being ex- longer than they should have and con- who are listed as having the task of ecuted to try to see to it that such tinued to eat up the resources. memos did get to Capitol Hill, and that doing these jobs that are designed, as b 1745 the gentleman points out, for cover-up, responsible investigators were not able are in fact employees of the White to understand anything about what Mr. COX of California. This is, of House counsel’s office? was really happening inside the White course, what this memo says, but we Mr. COX of California. In fact, they House. know what the public face has been, are all of them employees of the White I find all of this extremely disturb- the public face of the White House, House, all of them staff of the Presi- ing. It is one thing to claim executive that Mrs. Clinton did no such work and dent. privilege as a way of protecting vial in fact had nothing to do with Mr. WALKER. Let me check with the national secrets that affect the oper- Whitewater or Madison Guaranty Sav- gentleman. For instance, I see down ation of the Government. It is another ings and Loan or the Rose Law Firm here the name Kendall. Now, Ken- thing to claim executive privilege and involvement in this, and in fact the dall—— try to use it to cover up the misdeeds collapse of Madison Guaranty had Mr. COX of California. David Kendall of people within the White House and nothing to do with her. is an outside lawyer. within the administration, misdeeds But in this memo, which is not pre- Mr. WALKER. But a number of the that are so obvious that the White pared for you or for me or for law en- people who are given these tasks in- House counsel’s office was able to pre- forcement but for each of the people in volved with trying to withhold infor- pare a list of all the ones that they the White House, the heading is, ‘‘Rose mation from Congress and also to cover thought that they were potentially Law Firm work, HRC, conflicts enabled up these scandals are in fact people guilty of. MGSL to stay open longer than it who are employed at the taxpayers’ ex- It is a horrible manifestation of the should have.’’ pense in the White House counsel’s of- use of executive privilege and is some- This is the scandal that they are fice, is that correct? thing which I would think in most dealing with internally and this is Mr. COX of California. That is cor- cases should disturb anyone who looks their approach to each one of the 39 rect, in the White House counsel’s of- at the willingness of public officials to scandals listed in this memo: Develop a fice and in the White House staff, a come clean about potential problems press or spin strategy. total of 15 staff members, we have within their jurisdiction. The White House counsel’s office toted this up, earning an annual salary Mr. COX of California. There is no rather obviously is being misused on of $1.3 million. These people who are question that this memo gives the lie the taxpayer’s tab. The American peo- supposed to be doing the people’s busi- to two claims made by the White ple should not be asked to shell out for ness, executing on legislation, policy, House. The first is that they would be what amounts to coverup and back- and the national responsibilities of the relying on outside counsel, which, of and-fill strategy in the White House, President of the United States, are in- course, they should, because these are the protection of Presidential cronies stead on scandal detail, and what a all scandals, private criminal problems and the protection of people who ulti- long scandal list it is, 39 separate scan- of the people involved. Clearly they mately, since 1994, have found them- dals identified in this memo, and strat- were still using the White House coun- selves in jail and behind bars, being egy outlined not just for dealing with sel’s office, even after they hired their convicted of felonies. the Congress, not just for withholding outside counsel. They were using some Mr. WALKER. I found it kind of in- documents, not just for coming up with 15 members of the White House staff at teresting, something on page 11, where legal pretexts for doing so, but also for an expense, an annual salary, of $1.3 it talks about Negative Associations, it dealing with the press. Because in al- million. calls it. Among the people listed are most each case, there is another item Second, when they said they were Jim Guy Tucker, David Hale, Jim to do on the list: Prepare press strat- coming clean, when they said they McDougal, and Dan Lasater. Three of egy. were cooperating and trying to put all those names, we have become quite fa- We have, for example, a heading the information out for the public to miliar with, as the trials have gone for- ‘‘White House/Treasury Contacts.’’ You see, what they were really doing was ward in the whole Whitewater mess, remember Mr. Altman had had to re- just the opposite, using legal devices to but obviously the White House had sign because of illegal contacts be- cover it up and stonewall. Unfortu- some very big concerns about the fact September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10211 that the President has, or the White all of those files were kept there and in December 1994 because not only were House has some of those negative asso- not returned to the FBI. They had been they worried about security issues for ciations. But then behind Dan improperly obtained by some political which he was responsible but the task, Lasater’s name, there is a parentheses thugs to begin with, and they were the specific task on this list is to inter- saying ‘‘bond deals, cocaine, and Roger kept apparently with the knowledge of view Livingstone and look at Living- Clinton.’’ I mean, we obviously have a at least the White House counsel’s of- stone’s file. You would not look at Liv- range of people here that the White fice. ingston’s file unless you thought he House counsel’s office was very worried Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Speaker, so was a problem. about, thus these negative associa- this document seems to indicate that Any kind of competent search about tions. the senior staff of the White House Livingstone, since we have all read Mr. COX of California. This, remem- knew there was something wrong and about him in the newspaper and his un- ber, is a task list. So presumably after was looking into this situation that savory background, would obviously receiving these instructions from Jane would have led them to investigate have yielded the result that such a per- Sherburne on December 13, 1994, the what was happening with what a year son ought not to have been placed and people who were listed here followed later became, actually more than a maintained in a position requiring pro- through on those tasks. That means year later, became the FBI file scandal. fessionalism and trust. We know none- that the White House internally, at Is that correct? theless the result. This political hack taxpayer expense, went out to put to- Mr. COX of California. Mr. Speaker, was maintained in this position, this gether information on Dan Lasater’s that is correct. very sensitive position in the White bond deals, information on Dan Mr. ROHRABACHER. Let us remem- House with access to FBI files on so Lasater’s involvement with cocaine, ber what happened when the informa- many Americans for 2 years. and that is according to this memo, tion about the Filegate scandal came Mr. WALKER. In fact was given and Roger Clinton and his involvement out originally. Correct me if my mem- raises as I recall. with the foregoing, with Dan Lasater, ory is faulty here. Did the President Mr. COX. of California. And described bond deals and cocaine, all or some of not act like he did not know anything by George Stephanopoulos as a very the above. But those documents that about this? In fact, did the President able, competent person, who they loved were most assuredly prepared, if people not say: Well, we are only talking having in the job. followed through on this task list, have about 39 files, and it has something to Mr. ROHRABACHER. And this man not been provided to this Congress nor do with a military fellow that was over had been involved with opposition re- apparently to law enforcement authori- here on some sort of a transfer over search during political campaigns prior ties. Each one of these 39 scandals with here to the White House? So, in other to this time? its subsidiary task listed on this memo words, this was all an act on the part of Mr. COX of California. Well, of is something that the White House, at the senior staff of the White House, course. And he was a bouncer. public expense, using the White House perhaps the President. Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Speaker, lawyers and the counsel’s office, has Mr. WALKER. If I recall correctly, having our background in the White decided to build a wall around, to they called it a kind of a bureaucratic House, let us examine this angle of the stonewall, so that the American peo- snafu. story. What has happened in other ple, law enforcement, and the Congress Mr. COX of California. I believe my White Houses that we could actually cannot find out about it. That of colleague would be correct if he had compare it to? Did Chuck Colson not course is exactly why this memo was said that that was a precise quotation have something to do with an FBI file? prepared just after the election of the from the President. He described this Mr. COX of California. He possessed Republican Congress, and that is why as a bureaucratic snafu. This was a one FBI file, it was learned, and there- the press has so reported. couple of years after the White House fore he was convicted and sent to pris- Mr. ROHRABACHER. If the gen- counsel’s office began investigating the on, for one file. tleman would yield for a question, I whole thing according to this very Mr. ROHRABACHER. So Chuck have not read these documents. But of memo and identified it as a scandal in Colson, in the Nixon era, when we had course both of us worked in the Reagan the making. Only, they identified it a Republican in the White House, was White House, so we are somewhat fa- just to themselves, not to anyone else. found guilty of mishandling one FBI miliar with the internal workings of Yet when it first burst upon the na- file and went to prison. And today we the White House and also the relation- tional scene, it was for the President to know that there were probably up to ship between the White House and the say, this is merely a bureaucratic 900 FBI files in the possession of a per- Congress. snafu. Now we know that the adminis- son who had been involved with opposi- Would the gentleman answer for me, tration was at least criminally incom- tion research for the Democratic does this memo in any way indicate petent if not malevolent in abusing the Party, yet this question does not seem that the higher levels of management privacy of scores of honest public serv- to be asked of the President by the in the White House, the White House ants. press anymore. staff, had prior knowledge of the FBI Mr. ROHRABACHER. The first figure Mr. COX of California. The compari- Filegate scandal? we were given by the White House was, son is not apt if we just leave it at Mr. COX of California. Mr. Speaker, I think, 39 or something like that, FBI that. The truth is that the White House as a matter of fact, there is a heading files were involved, they in fact knew counsel’s office in its current incarna- in this memo concerning security/Liv- that the number that they were giving tion is literally a response to Water- ingstone issues. It appears at page 4 of out at that time was incorrect. This in- gate. They decided that no longer the memo. Two of the tasks under that dicates that they had done a study, at would the lawyers for the President be heading are: Review Livingstone file, least they had red-flagged this a long kept in a small office in the Old Execu- and interview Livingstone. Obviously time before, and that was probably an tive Office Building across the street. the White House counsel’s office had a intentional, I would say, error, or in- There were only two of them in the problem with Livingstone and security tentional misinformation, when even- Nixon administration. in the White House at that time. tually the figure came out of 900 FBI We all remember John Dean’s testi- Apparently his FBI and personnel files. So this is indicating that they mony about his inability to come files, and the result of any search of his were looking into that matter. When across with the President and convince background and the result of any the number 39 went up to 900 FBI files, him of the gravity of these things. The search of the issues that have all ex- this is all part and parcel of something White House counsel’s office was then ploded onto the national scene since the White House had thought out a moved right into the West Wing of the then obviously must have been that long time before. White House. It became a significant they knew in 1994 what was going on. Mr. COX of California. What we know law firm, with very, very professional Yet, as we know, those FBI files on specifically from this memo is that the people who have acquitted themselves your colleagues and mine who worked White House had reason to be con- with great distinction through the in the Reagan and Bush White Houses, cerned about Craig Livingstone himself Carter administration, through the H10212 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996

Ford administration, through the the living quarters of the first family reading this in the CONGRESSIONAL Reagan administration and the Bush in the White House, that were lost for RECORD or hearing this over C–SPAN administration, to keep the adminis- so long, that perhaps that was not just should understand that none of the in- tration out of trouble, to prevent an accident. Perhaps actually a strat- formation we are talking about in this things like this from happening. But egy was developed on how to handle memo, or, I might add, many of the what goes on in this White House coun- this crisis. Maybe there is another file other revelations we have discovered, sel’s office? They are the engines of someplace else that basically details whether it is the FBI files or the bill- these misdeeds. It is the White House how to handle all of these problems ing records we were trying to find for counsel’s office that was coming up that are red-flagged. the Rose Law Firm in dealing with this with these FBI files, multiplying one Mr. COX of California. The gen- S&L scandal which the First Lady was hundredfold the crime for which Mr. tleman is being very circumspect and in some way attached to, these things Colson was convicted during Water- charitable, having now received this would not have been ever disclosed to gate. memo, to say ‘‘perhaps.’’ It is obvious the public, nothing about this would Mr. WALKER. Mr. Speaker, I seem to that the purpose of this task list is to ever be known by the public, except for recall some years ago a press secretary marshal all of the efforts of the White the fact that the U.S. Congress in a Republican administration who House staff, led by White House law- changed hands. got fired for having made up a quote yers, to prevent Congress from inves- This memo, it appears that this along the way. Now you look down tigating each and every one of these 39 memo is a recognition that the admin- through this memo, and this memo has scandals. istration recognized very early on that a press strategy for purposely mislead- One of the headings in this memo is the game was up in terms of hiding ev- ing the public. The level of question Research Re Limitation on Legislative erything from the public. That they that arises from this kind of task list Power to Investigate. What the White could have kept all of this information, is pretty substantial. House counsel’s office is doing here is if the Democrats would have main- Mr. COX of California. It does trouble coming up with legal arguments that tained control of the House and the me that with respect to each one of will prevent the Congress from getting Senate, and there was no way the pub- these 39 scandals, one of the items to to the bottom of what they have al- lic would ever have known about this. do, on the to-do list for the White ready identified as scandals. Which also suggests one other thing, House counsel’s office, the legal coun- and this is a point I would like to make b 1800 sel of the President of the United and the public should understand: The States, is to develop a press strategy. If ‘‘Research re: limitations on legisla- liberal Democrats, who controlled both we are coming clean, if we are trying tive power to investigate.’’ Under that Houses of Congress and control the ex- to share with the American people all heading, we have DNC, DCCC, DSCC. ecutive branch today, have a total dis- the relevant facts so that their minds For those of us who are uninitiated, dain for the press. They do not believe can be put at ease that no illegality is the DNC is the Democratic National that the press can uncover anything. occurring at the highest levels of our Committee, the DCCC is the Demo- They in fact trusted that the press Government, one would wish that, cratic Congressional Campaign Com- would not even try to uncover any of rather than a press strategy, we simply mittee, and the DSCC is the Demo- these things. had a procedure by which the docu- cratic Senatorial Campaign Commit- It was only when the House of Rep- ments were shared and made public. tee. resentatives changed hands and we had Mr. Speaker, they ought to be shared Under that they have ‘‘surrogates.’’ the power then to subpoena and ask with law enforcement, shared with the So they are going to be using all of people under oath questions about American people and with the Con- their political machinery. This is a these types of misdeeds, that the ad- gress. Instead, each time we have a taxpayer paid memo, and taxpayer paid ministration became cautious enough scandal listed here, whether it is Ickes’ lawyers inside the White House wrote and became frightened enough to try to union representation, Stephanopoulos, this memo about DCCC, DNC and look at what their potential Nations Bank, improper electioneering DSCC, to use them as surrogates to an- vulnerabilities were. If we would not at the SBA, Presidential campaign and nounce to the American people that have had control of the House, they FEC audit, commodities. There are 39 there are legal reasons, that the White would not fear a thing from us. of these. House counsel then went out and re- Mr. WALKER. If the gentleman Mr. WALKER. The use of time and searched and came up with, that Con- would yield, I think the gentleman White House resources for response ef- gress cannot and should not be inves- from California makes an excellent forts. In other words, what they are ad- tigating these 39 scandals, which are point, because actually Chairman mitting to there is they have got this neatly itemized in this secret memo. CLINGER, at that time a ranking minor- problem. They are using the taxpayer Mr. ROHRABACHER. Could this be ity member of the committee, at- dollar. They are using the White House characterized again, and you looked at tempted to pursue the Travelgate scan- itself and taxpayer dollars for essen- these things legally, Mr. COX, and you dal while a minority member of the tially political responses. are a trained lawyer and I am not, I committee, attempted to get the com- Mr. COX of California. That is pre- have a journalistic background, but mittee to look into the problem at that cisely it. The press strategy seems to would it be inaccurate to suggest that time. He was told by the Democrats be the preoccupation of the White this was a game plan for a coverup? that it would not be done. In fact, I House counsel’s office, whereas they Mr. COX of California. As I said ear- think, I do not remember exactly, but are supposed to be paid by the tax- lier, it appears chiefly from this brand I think they actually voted him down payers and they are for the benefit of new memo, which we have had only for and suggested to him that he was not the President to keep everything on a few weeks, and also from all of the going to be able to pursue the matter. the level, to keep the President and the context of the administration’s non- It was not until he became chairman of highest levels of our executive branch response to our request for those 3,000 the committee that he was able to pur- out of trouble. documents, which they referred to as a sue the matter, because specifically Mr. ROHRABACHER. So we can as- request for toilet paper and which that committee decided to permit the sume through this memo, can we not, eventually yielded the information White House to cover this matter up that basically the White House and the about Filegate and all the FBI files on and not take it up before the proper upper echelons of the White House were earlier administrative personnel that congressional committees. red-flagging every possible problem so they obtained for political purposes, Mr. COX of California. It is at least that they could build contingency that executive privilege, which has true that prior to the revelations, so plans in case these things came to the been their basis for refusing to turn many of which have occurred since the public’s attention. So when things like over these documents, is increasingly election of an opposition party to get the FBI scandal or perhaps even the becoming a synonym for coverup. to the bottom of this in the White billing records scandal, the billing Mr. ROHRABACHER. I think it is House, that there was an attitude by records that miraculously appeared in important that those people who are the Democrats in power in Congress at September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10213 the time that they simply did not want unanimous consent to include the ii. precedents to know the answer to these questions, memorandum in its entirety in the iii. committee rules because, after all, we had not seen this RECORD at this point. iv. procedures document until just a few weeks ago. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without f. Research re limitations on legislative objection, subject to the rules of the power to investigate But now that we have it, I think any i. legislative purpose fair-minded person, any Democrat or House. ii. overreaching precedents any Republican, would have to say, There was no objection. g. Learn new Hill committee jurisdiction, this is a virtual roadmap to scandal. TASK LIST—DECEMBER 13, 1994 membership If the majority party in Congress 1. ISSUES h. Courtesy visits to Hill—member and staff were to put together a list of scandals a. Foster document handling (Nemetz) level (e.g., Frank, Sarbanes, leadership; of the administration that ran to more b. Travel Office (Cerf) Harris, Meek, etc.) c. White House/Treasury contacts (revisited; i. Consultations than a dozen, it would be called a par- j. Offensive structure tisan exercise. Yet here we have, pre- report) (JCS) d. Obstruction of justice (DOJ handling of i. FEC legal research pared by the White House staff itself, criminal referrals; Jay Stephens; RTC ii. W&C by President Clinton’s own staff, a se- whistleblower reprisals) iii. DNC/DCCC/DSCC cret memo for their own privileged e. Use of White House resources for response iv. surrogates consumption, stamped ‘‘privileged’’ on efforts (Nolan) k. Representation of Administration officials the cover, a list of 39 scandals, with de- f. Foster suicide (Nemetz) by private counsel tail of each, and some rather damaging g. Espy (ethics; expanded Smaltz inquiry re i. compensation l. Research re proper role of OWHC with re- admissions about each. Tyson’s, Hatch Act) (Mills/Nolan) h. Cisneros spect to pre-inaugural issues with an aim Let me point our just one such that i. Brown toward articulating principles for deter- we have not referred to in this brief j. Hubbell mining who should be principal spokes- colloquy, and that is the scandal la- k. Ickes/union representation person on a particular issue and the ex- beled Hubbell, and that is, of course, l. Stephanopoulos/NationsBank tent to which each (private counsel/ Webster Hubbell, the acting Attorney m. State Department—passport files OHWC) should participate. General. ‘‘Webster Hubbell’s coopera- n. Archives—abuse of personnel system 3. FOSTER DOCUMENTS HANDLING tion is to be monitored.’’ o. Legal Defense Fund (Mills) a. Independent counsel inquiry Now, why would we be concerned p. Health Care Task Force (Neuwirth) (1) identify options with respect to issu- q. White House operations (drugs, passes, with this? This is right before ‘‘deter- ance of report—(a) precedents helicopters) (Mills/Nolan) (2) inquire about status and timing mine press strategy.’’ Why would we be r. Residence renovations (Neuwirth) concerned with monitoring Webster (3) HRC/WJC depositions s. Presidential immunity (Sloan) ii. status check with counsel for individ- Hubbell’s cooperation, if we were will- t. White House Arkansans (Thomasson, uals ing to let the special prosecutor do his Nash, Rasco) b. Congressional hearings job? u. PIC surplus i. identify likely committees (Senate The answer is, of course, the adminis- v. Improper electioneering (SBA) Banking; House Banking, Gov Ops, Judi- tration was very concerned about just w. GSA (Roger Johnson) ciary) how far Webster Hubbell might go in x. Value Partners (Neuwirth) (1) identify friends—key Members and staff y. Presidential campaign (FEC audit) cooperating with that special prosecu- (2) identify leadership z. Commodities (Kendall) (3) identify key republicans tor. As we all know, Webster Hubbell aa. Gubernatorial campaigns (Lindsey, was subsequently convicted and sent to ii. congressional visits Wright)—record keeping (Kendall) (1) Daschle jail. ab. Gubernatorial campaigns)—MGSL (Ken- (2) Sarbanes & other Banking Mr. WALKER. And right below that dall) (3) house is ‘‘Ickes’s union representation.’’ We ac. Whitewater/MGSL (Kendall) iii. prepare background materials know that one of the unions and one of ad. Other MGSL/McDougal (Kendall) (1) assemble public record the individuals that Mr. Ickes had a re- ae. Rose Law Firm (HRC work for MGSL; (2) talking points and fact memoranda Frost Case, FSLIC representation) (Ken- lationship with now now somebody who iv. determine how to handle representation dall) of individual White House staff has been under congressional investiga- af. David Hale/Susan McDougal/SBA (Ken- tion, and where we have FBI data call- (1) outside counsel dall) (2) attorney fees ing him a criminal associate of the ag. Tucker (3) assertion of privileges mob, this person who Mr. Ickes was as- ah. Lasater (bond deals; cocaine; Roger Clin- c. Press strategy sociated with. I see they were assem- ton) d. Surrogate role bling a binder with summary and key ai. Use of loans to achieve legislative initia- i. Hamilton documents with regard to that union tives ii. identify others aj. ADFA (political favors; Larry Nichols) e. Offensive research representation. ak. Mena Airport Well, since the White House has had f. Issue specific tasks al. troopers i. security/Livingstone issues this direct relationship with this per- am. women (Kendall/Bennett) son, Mr. Coia, who has been called by (1) debrief Joel 2. PRELIMINARIES (2) review Livingstone file the FBI a criminal associate of the a. Identify key republican objectives and (3) consult with Randy Turk mob, that could be a very damaging routes for achieving them—e.g. (4) interview Livingstone kind of question that is raised as a part i. sustain shadow on WJC character (5) fact memo of the scandal memo prepared at the ii. hype HRC threat to white men, tradi- ii. inconclusiveness re Williams removal of White House. tional women documents In fact, ‘‘ABC News’’ has done quite b. Identify guiding principles for responses— (1) confer with Ed Dennis an expose´ on this. It turns out the e.g. (2) debrief Joel re security officer scandal itself was under active inves- i. nothing to hide (3) assemble public reports of document re- ii. stick to the facts moval on 7/20 and statements attributed tigation by the White House Counsel’s iii. get it right the first time to White House officials Office on December 13, 1994, and it is iv. keep it simple iii. chain of custody re transfer of Clinton highlighted in this White House task v. resist harassment personal files list. vi. govern America (1) complete interviews Mr. WALKER. But since that time, c. Executive privilege research (a) Carolyn Huber the President has continued to have di- i. OLC state of the play (b) Linda Tripp rect association with the person in- ii. comments by republicans re assertion (c) Deborah Gorhan volved, the gentleman described as a iii. protocol (d) Bob Barnett iv. strategy/principles for asserting (e) Syvia Mathews criminal associate of the mob. d. Research re entitlement of Congress to (2) fact memo Mr. COX of California. I think at this HRC/WJC transcripts of depositions (3) assemble public record point it would be appropriate, because given to Fiske (4) determine strategy re release of White each of our colleagues should have the e. Research re congressional subpoena power H2O Devel Corp. file benefit of this memo in full, that I ask i. reach (HRC/WJC) iv. search of Foster office H10214 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 (1) assemble public record iii. Treasury status b. Determine congressional interest (a) including any relevant testimony at iv. press strategy for release of Committee c. Assemble binder with summary and key Senate hearing on Foster suicide in July report documents 1994 v. work up background paper on precedents 16. SBA (IMPROPER ELECTIONEERING) (2) fact memo e. Recusal policies/OGE/Executive Orders a. Identify issue (a) obligation to seal the office imme- i. press strategy for release of Committee b. Determine congressional interest diately report c. Assemble binder with summary and key (b) obligation to cooperate with law en- ii. background paper documents forcement authorities vs. protection of iii. consult with OGE 17. GSA (ROGER JOHNSON) privileged material iv. consider Executive Order or other re- (c) basis for protecting disclosure to Con- sponse to Committee a. Identify issue gress of privileged material in VF office f. Contacts policy (Executive Order) b. Determine congressional interest (3) legal research i. press strategy for release of Committee c. Assemble binder with summary and key (i) basis for resisting identification/produc- report documents tion of all documents in VF office and ii. background paper 18. FEC AUDIT Bernie’s safe iii. consult with OGE a. Determine congressional interest v. Delay in surfacing suicide note iv. consider Executive order or other re- b. Assemble binder with summary and key (1) complete interviews sponse to Committee documents g. Rikki Tigert (a) Gergen 19. FIC SURPLUS (b) Burton i. determine her first likely congressional a. Identify issue (2) assemble material in public record appearance in the new congress b. Determine congressional interest (3) fact memo ii. assemble public record c. Assemble binder with summary and key (4) legal research iii. interview Gergen, Tigert and Klein re documents (a) obligations to disclose a note to law en- communications on the subject of forcement authorities recusal 20. MGSL-RELATED (i) if not obviously a suicide note (1) determine response to allegations of a. Whitewater Investment (ii) timeliness requirements ‘‘pressure’’ i. assemble public record (2) determine response to allegation that 4. FOSTER SUICIDE ii. review documents, including work of ac- Klein misled the committee countants and tax returns; Lyons reports a. Chris Ruddy/Center for Western Journal- iv. determine press strategy/talking points iii. develop fact memo and chronology ism 7. SMALTZ INVESTIGATION iv. press strategy b. Causes for suicide b. MGSL c. Monitor Senate report; coordinate with a. Espy—ethics (Mills) i. assemble public record Hamilton b. Beyond Espy ethics (Hatch Act, Tyson’s) ii. review W&C documents d. Develop press response i. determine charter, scope of inquiry ii. determine press strategy iii. develop fact memo and chronology 5. OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE iii. identify congressional interest iv. fact memo a. Delay in addressing criminal referrals; DOJ iv. assemble public record (1) why MGSL failed; relationship of cam- role (D.C. and Paula Casey) v. fact gathering paign contributions to failure i. determine usual process 8. WHITE HOUSE WHITEWATER RESPONSE EFFORT (2) Rose Law Firm work (HRC 1985) ii. develop chronology/fact memo with key (a) conflicts (1) Charles Banks a. Legal research (b) enabled MGSL to stay open longer than (2) Paula Casey i. the appropriate role of White House staff it should have (3) (track Lewis correspondence released with respect to issues arising pre-inau- v. surrogate strategy by Leach) guration (see above) c. Rose Law Firm iii. identify Committee interest (D’Amato; b. Fact development (scope of effort, etc.) i. fact memo House) c. Determine press strategy/develop talking (1) status of conflicts inquiry iv. assemble public record points (2) Frost case b. RTC/Kansas City investigation (suspen- d. Assemble public record (3) Rose services to FSLIC related to sion of Jean Lewis, Richard Iorio etc.; i. Lindsey involvement pre-1994 Lasater brokerage firm (HRC 2 hours in April Breslaw; pre-1993 activity) ii. Ickes’ Ward Room undertaking (1/94) 1987, signed pleadings for VF) i. develop chronology of known facts and iii. Polesta damage control effort (4) billing practices key documents 9. CISNEROS ii. assemble public record ii. interview Breslaw a. Gather facts iii. determine press strategy iii. identify Committee interest (Leach; b. Establish contact with counsel d. David Hale Senate) c. Determine press strategy/develop talking 21. OTHER PRE-INAUGURAL iv. examine last day of House hearings for points a. Gubernatorial Campaigns offensive help d. Identify source of congressional interest i. identify issues c. Jay Stephens retention e. Assemble binder with summary and key (1) whether expenditures and loans were i. track public record documents properly reported under state law ii. identify efforts to give IC civil jurisdic- 10. BROWN (a) Lindsey role tion a. Establish contact with counsel (b) Betsey Wright iii. identify Committee interest (D’Amato; b. Determine press strategy/develop talking (2) role of the Bank of Cherry Valley House) points (3) Starr looking at 1984, 1986, 1990 6. WHITE HOUSE/TREASURY CONTACTS c. Identify source of congressional interest ii. interview Kendall; review Kendall docu- a. Senate Report d. Assemble binder with summary and key ments i. review/comment on Report documents iii. interview Snyder/Lindsey ii. keep in touch with Minority Report de- 11. HUBBELL iv. fact memo velopments a. Monitor cooperation v. press strategy iii. prepare press strategy b. Determine press strategy/develop talking b. Negative Associations iv. identify surrogates points i. Jim Guy Tucker b. White House investigation of White House/ ii. David Hale (SBA) 12. ICKES (UNION REPRESENTATION) Treasury contacts (receipt of informa- iii. Jim McDougal tion about RTC investigation; work prod- a. Monitor iv. Dan Lasater (bond deals, cocaine, Roger uct; redactions) b. Assemble binder with summary and key Clinton) i. prepare file memorandum describing use documents c. Mena Airport of unredacted transcripts 13. STEPHANOPOULOS (NATIONSBANK) i. identify issue ii. determine continuing Bond interest a. Monitor ii. determine congressional interest c. Truthfulness of White House and other Ad- b. Assemble binder with summary and key iii. assemble binder with summary and key ministration witnesses (referral of testi- documents documents mony to Starr—Ickes, Stephanopoulos) 14. STATE DEPARTMENT (PASSPORT FILES) d. ADFA i. consult with lawyers i. identify issue (political favors) ii. identify areas of vulnerability a. Identify issue ii. determine congressional interest iii. research on perjury b. Determine congressional interest iii. assemble binder with summary and key iv. press response c. Assemble binder with summary and key documents d. Heads-up policy documents e. Use by Governor Clinton of loans to fur- i. surrogates 15. ARCHIVES (ABUSE OF PERSONNEL SYSTEM) ther legislative initiatives ii. uniform application a. Identify issue i. identify issue September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10215

ii. determine congressional interests colleagues, Mr. DASCHLE, Mr. SAR- economy would perform and what the iii. assemble binder with summary and key BANES, develop a press strategy, and size of the Federal budget deficit would documents then there is a heading ‘‘Offensive Re- be following President Bush’s economic f. Commodities search.’’ program. i. determine congressional interest The most optimistic forecast was for ii. assemble binder with summary and key This is not a memo prepared by a documents White House willing to cooperate. This the deficit to be $201 billion by 1996. g. Paula Jones is a memorandum prepared by a White Under President Clinton’s leadership, i. assemble binder with summary and key House that has carefully outlined 39 the Congressional Budget Office documents separate scandals and the strategy for projects the deficit to be $116 billion in h. Troopers covering them up. 1996. That is $85 billion less than the i. identify issue (job for silence, other) f rosiest projection President Bush ii. determine congressional interest promised. iii. assemble binder with summary and key ECONOMIC GROWTH UNDER After 31⁄2 years under President Clin- documents PRESIDENT CLINTON ton, we have the lowest combined rates Mr. COX of California. I thank the The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. of unemployment, inflation, and mort- Speaker. ROTH). Under a previous order of the gage rates since the 1960’s, which is the The memo is quite extraordinary. It House, the gentlewoman from New biggest tax cut of all for working is single-spaced, goes on for 12 pages, York [Mrs. MALONEY] is recognized for Americans and retirees on fixed in- and, as I said, lists 39 scandals, most of 5 minutes. comes. which, now, 2 years later, are known to Mrs. MALONEY. Mr. Speaker, this b 1815 the American people, but a few of past Saturday, former Senator Dole, Now, let us listen to the words of the which are actually brand new. It actu- now the Republican candidate for chairman of the Federal Reserve ally details how each of these scandals President, said in his radio address, Board, Alan Greenspan. Testifying be- was assigned to White House staff, 15 ‘‘The Congressional Joint Economic fore the Joint Economic Committee in such staffers, and according to the Committee reports that last year 66 January 1994, Dr. Greenspan clearly press, these staffers earned a total sal- countries had economic growth rates stated what he felt was the cause of the ary of $1.3 million. This is taxpayer that surpassed ours. The President money, all of which is being misspent speedup in economic growth. He said, may think that when it comes to eco- and I quote, ‘‘The actions taken last because that is not the appropriate nomic growth 67th place is good function of the White House Counsel’s year to reduce the Federal budget have enough, but I do not. I want America to been instrumental in creating the basis office. That is not the appropriate lead the world again in terms of eco- function of the White House staff. for declining inflation expectations and nomic growth, rising incomes, and easing pressures on the long-term in- Working on these matters inside the greater job opportunities.’’ West Wing of the White House is itself terest rates.’’ In building his bridge to the past, Mr. ‘‘What I,’’ and again I am quoting Dr. a scandal of the first order. Dole must have overlooked the present. Greenspan, ‘‘argued at the time is that Mr. ROHRABACHER. I have not read Just look at the good news about the the purpose of getting a lower budget this memo, obviously. I appreciate the economy that came out in the 2 weeks deficit was essentially to improve the gentleman making this available to me before he spoke. One week before his long-term outlook, and that if the defi- and available to the other Members. speech, the Commerce Department’s cit reduction is credible, then the long- But just a quick glance shows you that Bureau of Economic Analysis revised term outlook gets discounted up front. one of the issues red-flagged in this the second quarter growth rate of the Indeed, that is precisely what is hap- memo is how to deal with questions gross domestic product upward to 4.8 pening.’’ about the Vincent Foster suicide. One percent. Exports and business invest- ‘‘I,’’ and again I am quoting Dr. wonders why, if this was just a straight ments showed strong upward move- Greenspan, ‘‘think a substantial part of up and down suicide, which we have al- ment. the improvement in economic activity ways, the news media and everyone Tuesday before he spoke, the con- and the low rates of inflation can be di- else wants to just steamroller anyone ference board reported the index of rectly related to a changing financial who has any questions, serious ques- leading economic indicators, which expectation that we might finally be tions about basically some of the facts projects the economy’s health for the coming to grips with this very severe behind the suicide and the time imme- next 6 to 9 months, reached a record problem.’’ diately thereafter. It just notes here high. That was in January 1994. He is not that they are taking, red-flagging Vin- Last Friday, before the Joint Eco- crediting shutting down the Govern- cent Foster, and red-flagging ‘‘obliga- nomic Committee, the Commissioner ment and holding needed Government tion to seal the office immediately.’’ of the Bureau of Labor Statistics re- services hostage to unfair budget deals And, B, ‘‘to cooperate with law enforce- ported that 250,000 jobs were created for making financial markets believe ment authorities versus protection of last month. This builds on the nearly that new and better fiscal management privileged material.’’ 200,000 jobs we created in July, and on was finally in place. Dr. Greenspan was What we have here is basically an the 10.5 million in the President’s first crediting the Budget Reconciliation outline for something concerning the 31⁄2 years in office. Act of 1993, with the, and again I quote death of Vincent Foster and the pre- A report in the June issue of the him, ‘‘substantial part of the improve- vention of certain information from monthly Labor Review, which the Bu- ment in economic activity and the low getting to the public. It appears to me, reau of Labor Statistics publishes, rates of interest.’’ and again I would have to study this shows that between 1993 and 1995 jobs I agree with Dr. Greenspan. I am further to relate this to other facts of in relatively higher earning occupa- proud of the economic record President the case and see how it really plays to- tions and industries grew at almost Clinton and the Democrats have ac- gether, but it appears to me what they twice the rate as jobs in comparatively complished in the last 4 years. We still are doing here is trying to set down a lower earning occupations and indus- have a great deal more to do, but we legal strategy for justifying things tries. are on the right track. they did to prevent information about In August, the share of women with As President Clinton says, we must Vincent Foster, coming from Vincent jobs reached a record high of 57.2 per- build a bridge to the future. It is not a Foster’s office or about the suicide, cent, the highest employment record toll bridge, because it will be a bridge from coming to public attention. for women in our Nation’s history. paid for by careful planning. We do not Mr. COX of California. In fact, on Mr. Dole promises fiscal responsibil- need a bridge to the past built with page 3, under the heading ‘‘Foster Doc- ity. However, look at the record. Be- IOU’s and growing deficits that will ument Handling,’’ there is a sub- fore leaving office in 1993, President mortgage our future, and we do not heading, identifying friends for the Bush’s Council of Economic Advisers need to go back to slow job growth and congressional hearings, key members left an economic report for the Presi- fewer opportunities. We need to look and staff, and the list of names of our dent. In it they forecasted how well the forward. H10216 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES sities from 70,000 overall in 1954 to graduated from Florida A&M and How- AND UNIVERSITIES 200,000 in 1980, and from 239,000 in 1988 ard University; the gentleman from The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. to 257,000 in 1990. So you see the trend Alabama, Congressman EARL HILLIARD, ROTH). Under a previous order of the of HCBU’s, the enrollment rather, on graduated from Morehouse College as House, the gentleman from Louisiana these colleges and universities. well as Howard University; the honor- [Mr. FIELDS] is recognized for 60 min- HCBU’s also noted an increase in able distinguished colleague who is utes. transfer students from other institu- with me tonight, the gentleman from Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. Mr. Speak- tions. Seventy-three percent of all Illinois, JESSE JACKSON, Jr., graduated er, tonight I am joined by one of our transfer students in the fall of 1993 from North Carolina A&T; the gen- colleagues, the gentleman from Illinois went to historically black colleges and tleman from Louisiana, Congressman [Mr. JACKSON], who will talk along universities. This shows the quality of WILLIAM JEFFERSON, graduated from with me on the subject of HBCU’s, his- these schools across the country. Many Southern University; the gentleman torically black colleges and univer- students are transferring to these col- from Georgia, Congressman JOHN sities. leges and universities across the coun- LEWIS, Fisk University; the gentle- Mr. Speaker, on September 23 of this try. woman from Florida, Congresswoman year, historically black colleges and On the graduate level, from 1977 to CARRIE MEEK, graduated from Florida universities all across the country will 1990, the amount of doctoral degrees A&M University; the gentleman from celebrate Black College Day, and on awarded by HCBU’s increased by 214 Mississippi, Congressman BENNIE that day many colleges across the percent. In sciences, 44 percent of the THOMPSON, Tougaloo College and Jack- country will recognize some of the bachelor degrees awarded to blacks son State University; the gentleman great contributions of historically were from historically black colleges from New York, Congressman ED black colleges and universities. But to and universities; 41 percent of the math TOWNS, graduated from North Carolina put this whole discussion of HBCU’s in degrees awarded were awarded from A&T; the gentleman from Maryland, the proper perspective and the proper HCBU’s; 38 percent of the computer Congressman ALBERT WYNN, Howard context, I would like to talk about the science and life sciences degrees; and 25 University; and, of course, I graduated history behind historically black col- percent of the engineering degrees were from an HCBU as well. I graduated leges and universities. awarded to blacks by HCBU’s. from Southern University in Baton HBCU’s are defined as any histori- In my State, Xavier University in Rouge, which so happens to be the larg- cally black college or university estab- New Orleans ranked second in placing est historically black college in the en- lished prior to 1964 whose principal black students in medical school. In tire country, with a system of over mission was and is the education of fact, over the last 10 years, 93 percent 14,000 students with colleges located in black Americans and is accredited by a of all of Xavier graduates who entered Baton Rouge, Shreveport and New Or- nationally recognized accrediting agen- medical school received their medical leans. cy or association determined by the degrees. It is the largest historically black Secretary of Education. Remembering that HCBU’s enroll college in the country. And in a real There are 103, Mr. Speaker, histori- only 17 percent of all black college stu- sense, for all of the public HCBU’s, cally black colleges and universities; dents nationwide, this statistic is very Southern University to some degree set only 3 percent of all colleges and uni- encouraging. Moreover, HCBU’s main- the tone in terms of what will happen versities in this country. They are lo- tain low tuition. The average tuition to other colleges and universities as re- cated in the Southeast, in the District with fees in 1992 and 1993 was $5,008, lates to Federal funding and as relates of Columbia, and the Virgin Islands. less than half of the average cost of to State funding as well. They include 41 public 4-year colleges private colleges and universities na- I am pleased tonight to be joined by and universities, 8 public 2-year univer- tionally. a very distinguished colleague of this sities, 46 private 4-year schools, and 8 Historically black colleges and uni- House, Congressman JESSE JACKSON, private schools with 2-year curriculum. versities educate almost 40 percent of Jr., who graduated from North Caro- Most of our colleges are more than the country’s black college graduates, lina A&T, who will enter into a col- 100 years old. Cheyney University of 75 percent of all black Ph.D’s, 46 per- loquy with me to further talk about Pennsylvania being the oldest, founded cent of all black business executives, 50 the need to preserve historically black in 1837. Historically black colleges and percent of all black engineers, 80 per- colleges and universities and I yield to universities enroll only 16 percent of cent of all black Federal judges, 50 per- the gentleman. African-American undergraduate stu- cent of all black attorneys, 75 percent Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. I thank the dents, however they graduate about 30 of all black military officers, and 85 gentleman for yielding. Let me first percent of all African-American stu- percent of all black doctors. begin by congratulating the distin- dents nationwide. So you see the impact of HCBU’s as guished gentleman from the Fourth To show the contributions that these relates to the medical community and Congressional District of Louisiana, schools, colleges, and universities have the black community as well as engi- who I had the privilege of meeting in had and the impact they have had to neers, doctors, lawyers, and military 1983 while he was a student at Southern the African-American community and officers alike. University in Baton Rouge, LA, and I to societies as a whole, with marginal For example, many individuals who was a student at North Carolina A&T resources HBCU’s have been able to ac- serve in government today, in public State University. complish a lot. Federal moneys for re- office, graduated from HCBU’s. In the We prided ourselves, as aggies, in our search and development to HBCU’s in Congressional Black Caucus, for exam- ability to beat Southern University in 1990 was $101 million; only 1.1 percent ple, 16 of the Congressional Black Cau- football and every other possible ath- of the total Federal money dedicated cus members in this Congress serving letic endeavor that we engaged in. to research and development across the today graduated from historically There is a serious camaraderie that Nation. But yet in spite of the lack of black colleges and universities. exists amongst those of us who are resources, these colleges and univer- The gentlewoman from Florida graduates of historically black institu- sities still were able to produce doctors CORRINE BROWN, graduated from Flor- tions, and I want to take this oppor- and lawyers and scientists and engi- ida A&M, the gentlewoman from North tunity as a product of those institu- neers. Carolina, EVA CLAYTON, North Carolina tions to certainly engage in this col- However, with limited resources, 37 A&T; the gentleman from South Caro- loquy and in this special order with the percent of all the students attending lina, JAMES CLYBURN, graduated from gentleman from Louisiana, Congress- HCBU’s come from families with in- South Carolina State; the gentleman man CLEO FIELDS. comes of less than $25,000. Retention from Maryland, ELIJAH CUMMINGS, Many Members of this institution and graduation rates at HCBU’s are Howard University; the gentleman probably do not know that while Con- higher than non-HCBU’s in this Nation. from Tennessee, HAROLD FORD, Howard gressman CLEO FIELDS is the youngest Enrollment has grown, Mr. Speaker, at University; the gentleman from Flor- African-American to have ever had the historically black colleges and univer- ida, Congressman ALCEE HASTINGS, privilege of serving in this institution, September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10217 he served the people of the Fourth Con- of all college graduates who are Afri- sities. They represent the very best gressional District of Louisiana with can-American still come from the re- that our community has to produce. I great distinction and will not be in the maining 102 or 103 institutions that am honored to have this opportunity to 105th Congress due to attacks on the presently exist. That was really the engage in a colloquy with the distin- Voting Rights Act and gerrymandering commitment that our Nation had made guished gentleman from Louisiana. in the State of Louisiana that has un- to newly freed slaves in our Nation. I Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. I thank dermined the Fourth Congressional might add that you indicated that in the gentleman for his comments. The District of Louisiana. 1964, since 1964, that officially ended gentleman is right, not only is one in- The people of the Fourth Congres- the period of officially designating col- spired at an HBCU or can be inspired at sional District of Louisiana have been leges as historically black colleges and an HBCU, but taking a moment of per- served with great distinction. Young universities, not one historically black sonal privilege, it also builds leader- African-American men, including my- college or university has been founded ship. I often wonder today, had I not self, have been inspired by the example since that reconstruction period. had the opportunity to attend South- that Congressman CLEO FIELDS has laid One of the reasons I commend you ern University and had the opportunity for all of us. and commend other members of the to be freshman class president and I saw Congressman CLEO FIELDS dur- Congressional Black Caucus and Pro- president of an entire student body and ing special orders, while I was the field gressive Caucus and Members of this had to manage a budget in excess of director of the Rainbow Coalition, institution who continue to fight to $150,000 as a young college student, or knowing that he was the president of sustain these institutions is because had the opportunity to travel abroad, the Student Government Association they know that the products of these representing a student body of 10,000 of Southern University who subse- institutions, once people become edu- students and then having the oppor- quently ran for State senate while he cated and become integrated, if you tunity to compete to serve on the was a student his senior year, and was will, through that education in the so- board of regents as the student rep- elected by the people of that particular ciety, they can then continue the de- resentative, but for that foundation at district to serve in the State senate, segregation of the society which really Southern, I do not know if I would having just finished his senior courses was a testament to this movement. have had the opportunity to serve in at Southern University. Sixteen Members of Congress are the State senate at a very young age He served in the State legislature presently graduates of historically and serve now in Congress at a very with great distinction and then subse- black colleges and universities. EVA young age. quently earned his way on to the re- CLAYTON and ADOLPHUS TOWNS are Southern, that HBCU was a place to apportionment committee in the State graduates of North Carolina A&T, prepare me to be a young leader or to of Louisiana, and consistent with the where I had the privilege of attending be a person who was able to be elected 1965 Voting Rights Act, was able to en- that institution. I might add, Congress- to public office, and the same thing it franchise literally hundreds of thou- man FIELDS, that it is really the mis- did to you and for you and for other sands of people in the State of Louisi- sion of historically black colleges to Members of the CBC. That was really ana who had been heretofore without train, to educate, and provide the kind my first elected office. We had to run a representation. of environment during the formative campaign and you had to be responsive b 1830 years of students through which they to constituents, the students, and that So Congressman CLEO FIELDS, as the can learn. was a learning place for me. youngest African-American, has earned I remember I went to a predomi- That is why I would like to see CBC his place in history, but it is really a nantly white high school here in Wash- Members, you and I, as we have worked larger statement about the quality and ington, DC. While I had tremendous with the CBC, Congressional Black the caliber of leadership that histori- professors who worked very hard to- Caucus, to make this HBCU day, the cally black colleges have created. ward my academic development, when 23d of this month, make it a significant The first African-Americans arrived I went to predominantly white high day not just having a good program on in this Nation on slave ships in 1619. schools, and I have nothing against a black college in this country but also There was a century’s old struggle to predominantly white universities or show leadership among students where end racism in our Nation and certainly colleges or high schools, I attended sev- students register to vote in the hun- racism that was legally enforced by eral of them myself, but for me as a dreds of thousands across this country law, the institution known as slavery. young African-American male in this on September 23. The very foundation of our Nation was society, to have Dr. Liston as a psy- I am glad that this gentleman de- a Civil War, a very bloody war between chology teacher and to have professors cided to initiate this program with the north and south over whether or not we who were African-Americans, to see Af- Congressional Black Caucus. I am glad should be individual States or united rican-Americans who could be that members of the Congressional as a Nation. chancellors or universities and heads of Black Caucus, through your leadership After the Civil War, in 1863, when math departments and Dr. Quiester and others, will be on college campuses President Lincoln signed the Emanci- Craig at North Carolina A&T as the across this country on black college pation Proclamation, ushered in a pe- head of the business department, to see day and certainly I urge SGA presi- riod known as First Reconstruction. Dr. Howard as a mathematician who dents, for example, to participate and During that period, 131 historically worked in the business department at get students registered to vote, because black colleges were founded to educate A&T State university during my form- you have a civic responsibility on a the newly freed slaves. ative years between 18 and 21 years old, college campus and young people who I might add, Representative FIELDS, for me to be able to see African-Ameri- are sitting in a classroom on a histori- during First Reconstruction, 22 African cans who had achieved at universities cally black college need to know that Americans were elected to serve in this all across this country, it really fought there is a responsibility that goes institution, between 1863 and 1896. stereotypes in my own mind about along with that. There was a direct relationship be- what I could be. And so I set at an Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. Mr. Speak- tween their participation in this Con- early age, as a result of the mission of er, if the gentleman would yield, there gress and in State legislatures all those institutions really to train its are some intangibles that come from across our country that made it pos- leadership, to allow it to have the free being a product of a historically black sible for African-Americans to come to voice to move beyond the stereotypes college, some things we hardly even institutions like this Congress and and say that we can really make it, think of. When I was at North Carolina fight for the kind of resources that that we can really achieve. A&T, to expect that an African-Amer- would educate those who had histori- This is really what the mission of ican could serve as the president of the cally been denied education in these in- historically black colleges has been. I student body, that was not like a far- stitutions. would certainly hope that Members of fetched idea. That was what was kind As Representative FIELDS has al- this body would continue to support of expected, that we could run a stu- ready indicated, more than 40 percent historically black colleges and univer- dent government association. H10218 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 On the other hand, when I went to actually participating in black college students to register to vote. We reg- the University of Illinois, where I very day, we will urge students to register istered 5,000-some odd students just on fortunately received my juris doctorate to vote. Southern’s campus alone. And then the degree, it was not necessarily expected I will give you a scenario, something Governor and the legislators started that an African-American could serve that happened to me when I was stu- calling the SGA presidents and want- as the president of the SGA and be re- dent body president at Southern. ing to know what they wanted in the sponsible for a million-dollar budget in Southern’s budget, there is so much appropriations bill. power in the vote and that student terms of student activities and student b 1845 fees or that we could organize the stu- vote, that vote of 10,000 students sit- dent body in such a way as to bring ting idly on a college campus can im- So it just goes to show you the power about the kind of campus life that we pact not only local policy but national in the student vote. Had we not exer- thought was acceptable to most of the policy as well. College students, HBCU cised that power to vote we still would students or bring about the kind of or not, all across America, young col- be marching, talking about saying programs and speakers that we wanted lege students can have a serious impact nothing. to come to the university. This is an on elections and the outcomes of elec- So you know I am just so excited intangible. tions, if they simply exercise that con- that you are part of this HBCU Day So I left A&T feeling that, yes, I can stitutional right to vote. where we encourage young college stu- serve as the president of the SGA or, When I was president of the student dents on Black College Day, on the 23d, yes, I could be the chancellor of an in- body at Southern University, there was not just to have a program and talk stitution. And so the gentleman is so a bill in the legislature to cut funding about the significance of black colleges correct when he says that the African- at Southern University by almost 20 and universities in this country, but American historically black colleges percent. It was unbelievable and the have the gall to be willing to protect serve as an incubator for African- student body, we had a meeting with them and stand by them by registering American leadership. I look forward to the student senate and the student sen- to vote and using that significant traveling on September 23 to a histori- ate met and we all said, what we will power by voting in all the elections. I cally black college either in North do is we will march to the State capitol mean that is just something that stu- Carolina or certainly in my district or and in record numbers. And we will dents all across this Nation should and wherever it is that I am needed in protest on the steps of the capitol and must do. order to articulate the significance we will demand our legislators to come Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. If the gen- that these institutions have had. out of the session and speak to us and tleman would yield, I would like to But I think the gentleman raises an- address this issue of higher education, share a brief story I had experienced other very interesting point, that there not only at Southern but colleges all while I was at North Carolina A&T is a relationship between the education across Louisiana were being cut be- State University, a story that is simi- of those who have been historically de- cause the budget was tight and law- lar to the one that the distinguished nied, those historically black colleges, makers saw fit to fund other areas and gentleman from Louisiana has men- and political participation. cut higher education across the board. tioned. I was the vice president along During First Reconstruction, 22 Afri- So we marched, about 5,000 students, with a good friend of mine by the name can-Americans were elected to Con- and other college campuses met us on of Rick Bradley who was the president gress and to State legislatures, all the steps of the capitol. We had 7,000 of a group that we founded on North across our country, the byproduct of students on the steps of the State cap- Carolina A&T State University campus which elected officials whose students itol in Louisiana protesting and de- called Students United for a Free voted for at that time who could come manding that legislators come out and South Africa [SUFAFSA], and one of and serve in these bodies and fight for address our concerns and also recon- the things that we did outside of pro- more resources. When students do not sider this across-the-board cut on high- testing various banking institutions in vote, students do not participate in the er education. We could not get a legis- North Carolina that were still involved process, they cannot elect people to lator to come out and address us. in doing business with South Africa, representative bodies across this great And when we regrouped at the end of fighting for disinvestment or divest- democracy for the purpose of fighting the day, college students and college ment of these various institutions, try- for those resources. So one of the presidents from all over the State, and ing to get North Carolina A&T and the things I have encouraged students to we talked, why would not legislators North Carolina school systems to di- do, whether they are Democrat or Re- address us, because politicians we vest their pension funds from busi- publican, really it is a nonpartisan ef- thought look at three things, reelec- nesses that were doing business in fort, not promoting one party over the tion, reelection and reelection. And South Africa, we did a lot of research other, in 1996, as a result of the passage then it dawned on us, how many of us on South African issues. And it was not of the motor voter law of 1993, people are registered to vote? Of the 7,000 stu- very long before international focus can simply dial 1–800–register and fill dents we marched from all across the turned to more domestic issues, when out the voter registration application State to the capitol, we probably had we found ourselves fighting against card over the phone and it will be 200 of them registered to vote. So we apartheid in South Africa, but also as mailed to them, just dial 1–800–register were talking loud and saying nothing, the most politically astute and aware and they are full participants in de- because we failed to use the power of group on campus with issues that af- mocracy. the vote. fected us domestically. Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. It is so So what we decided to do was to Our struggle against apartheid in simple now because of what this Con- think smart. We decided to have mas- South Africa encouraged us and forced gress did. It is so simple now to reg- sive voter registration drives on all us to look at the role that our con- ister to vote. There are organizations college campuses across the State of gressman, who represented North Caro- like Rock the Vote, for example, who Louisiana and eventually presidents lina A&T State University at that travel all across the country and have and Greek organizations, if they had a time, was playing in South Africa, the a 1–800 number where a student in a party, they had the party for a purpose, free South Africa movement, and we dormitory room can get on the phone you had to be registered to vote to found at that time that our representa- and dial 1–800–register and be a reg- enter. We registered thousands upon tive did not represent the position of istered voter. thousands of students. Then it was not our organization, and we began reg- The motor-voter law did so much to that easy because you had to actually istering people to vote on our campus. encourage participation, particularly take students, according to Louisiana We would not let the Deltas, the Q’s, young participation in the process law, back then to the registrar of vot- the Alphas, Sigma Gamma Wu’s, we where young people could register to ers office to actually register the stu- would not let any organization on vote. So certainly a part of our effort dent to vote. North Carolina A&T State University’s with the CBC members traveling all So we had to use resources like buses campus host a party or an event on the across the country on September 23, and use moneys to rent buses to take campus unless they were registered to September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10219 vote and the students on that campus dicated shows on many of the this Congress on both sides of the aisle, could prove that they were registered ministations all across America. we can fight night and day about, you to vote, and as a result we registered of I mean I was sitting in—I was driving know, we need to keep student loans, the 4,200 students, of North Carolina in the car the other day, and I heard we need to keep opportunities avail- A&T State University’s campus we reg- Tom Journal that morning talking able to elementary, secondary, and istered more than 3,600 aggies to par- about how people, particularly young higher education, but if we do not have ticipate in the political process. And on people, need to register to vote, and he students out there—they get enough of election day, while we came very close started this thing: You know, register ire education, they get enough of a Pell to defeating that Member of Congress, five people to vote and call their names grant, they thinking enough of student we were only 60 votes away in the gen- in and I will announce them over the loans, that they are not exercising a eral election, and I will leave the gen- air. And people were actually register- power that they rightfully have by tleman’s name anonymous for the pur- ing people to vote, and he was an- going to the polls and vote, especially poses of my discussion, but when I was nouncing the names over the air. after we passed this easy, easy, easy sworn into the 104th Congress as the I just think that is so encouraging voter registration process. 91st African-American to ever have the because a lot of people do not wake up I mean this bill that we have passed privilege of serving in this institution, in the morning, young people for exam- in this Congress. We passed a bill, as that Member of Congress came up to ple, who is about to go to a biology lab, you stated, where a student govern- me, congratulated me for my electoral who is on a college campus, not think- ment president, for example, can walk victory, gave me an embrace, a hug, ing about voting per se, interested in into a classroom and register every and said, ‘‘You know, I am very famil- the future, interested in the outcome student. A teacher rather, a professor iar with you. You almost beat me on of elections, but not registered. As you in a class at an institution, can say all that day.’’ stated, many college students, when right, first day of school, the first ques- And we were within 60 votes of beat- they leave from Illinois and go to Los tion: ing that Member of Congress. As a re- Angeles to register for college, they How many of you all are registered sult of that again I graduated in 1987. may be registered back home, but the to vote right here at this college? Students across the State of North likelihood of them going back to Illi- And have the forms there. It is legal. Carolina were registered to vote and nois from California to vote on election OK, register to vote. participate in the political process. day is not all that great. And so it is Do not have to dictate how you reg- The end result was a census taken in incumbent upon them to register to ister, Democrat or Republican; that is 1990, a reapportionment plan in 1991, vote at that college, at that university irrelevant for registration purposes, or the implementation of that reappor- because they are going to be there 4 to how you vote or who you vote for. You tionment plan in 1992, and the by-prod- 5 years on the average. know, I am not going to advocate So that is really home. That is where uct of which in 1996, the 12th Congres- teachers do that. But it should be part they are going to be during the local sional district is now represented by of the learning process. and State and perhaps Federal elec- Congressman MEL WATT, who rep- You talk about personal responsibil- tions. So that is where they ought to ity? One of the first basic personal re- resents North Carolina A&T as well as exercise the power. They should never Winston-Salem and I believe as many sponsibilities that individuals have is go powerless. to claim citizenship by registering to as 6 other historically black colleges. And I was just impressed with Tom vote, and then that teacher, that pro- So it is possible, and I will yield back Journal. I think that is the name of fessor—I mean just think about if to the gentleman in just about 30 sec- the show, the Tom Journal Morning every college campus—just think about onds. Show. You know, encouraging people HBCU’s, just take black colleges, for Very few people know that they can to register to vote. register where they live. Students do I will give you an example. example, on Monday, the 23d. If every not live in New York if they are at Yes, we talk about, you and I debate professor say, OK, what we will do this A&T. They do not live in Chicago if night and day, for student loans and day is we will register every student in they are at A&T. They live in Greens- grants, Pell grants, to make sure that this class. When you walk into my boro, NC. those opportunities are available to class, you have the opportunity to reg- According to the law, you can reg- students today as they were available ister to vote the first 5 minutes, and I ister wherever you spend the last 3 to us when we were in college. Why is will personally turn these forms in. nights in a row. That is home. If your it? I mean people that asked the ques- And the 100 percent voter registration name has changed, you are now an un- tion why is it that legislators would on college campus, the kind of power, registered voter. If you just got mar- move on college tuition and raise col- and not just HBCU’s, historically black ried, your name was Smith last week, lege tuition or vote to cut higher edu- colleges, but all college students can you married a Williams last week, you cation so that schools and board of di- have if they only exercise that con- are now an unregistered voter because rectors have to raise college tuition stitutional right, and it is so easy to your name has changed, and as a result and cut Pell grants and student loans do. of efforts of many who fought and died and things of that nature? I mean let I mean some can right now in their in this country, Wiola Wheatson, a us look at it from a political perspec- dormitories just dial 1–800–REGISTER white woman, got her brains blown out tive and preserve seniors on the other and be registered to vote. at point blank range trying to register hand. Let us look at it from a political Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. If the gen- students to vote. perspective. tleman would yield, and I thank the Martin Luther King, Jr., and Bobby If you look on the voter register rolls gentleman for yielding once again, you Kennedy and others have died trying to and you see most of the registered vot- know this is a democracy. We claim to reduce the age from 21 to 18. As a re- ers in this country are of the age of 55 be the largest democracy in the world, sult of their efforts, you can now dial to 65, and the fewest number of reg- the oldest democracy in the world, the 1–800–REGISTER and become a full istered voters are between the ages of most practicing and the most function- participant in this democracy, and I 18 and 35, then of course you are more ing democracy in the world, but noth- might add those who are interested in likely to move on that age group than ing could be more tragic than to realize doing it ought to do it soon because the you are likely to move on the age that fewer and fewer people are voting election is approaching. group that is most registered to vote, in our local, State, and national elec- Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. Abso- but not just registered to vote, but tions. There seems to be some kind of lutely, and you know this whole voter more likely to go to the polls and vote disconnect between the people’s par- registration among young people is on election day. Because it is one thing ticipation in this democracy and what really catching on. to register to vote, but it is another takes place in the halls of this Con- I do not know if you are familiar thing to actually go out and use the gress and the State legislatures around with the shows called the Tom Journal power by voting. our country. Morning Show. It is a show that is on So college students—I mean we can And so when one even talks about every morning on many of the syn- fight. You and I and other Members of voter registration, the reality is we H10220 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 have sufficient enough technology in tures around this country that we de- are a lot of students who are not from our country today. Whenever you get termine how the economic system in North Carolina, who really do not care pulled over by a police officer, get our Nation is distributed. Some of us about the local politics of North Caro- pulled over by a state trooper or any on one given day may talk about tax lina, some not even concentrating on law enforcement official, he can take cuts; others may refer to them as enti- national politics, either. They are at your drivers license, and they can de- tlements for the poor. North Carolina A&T just to get an edu- termine whether or not you are guilty b 1900 cation. When I was at Southern, that or wanted of a felony or a misdemeanor was one of the big things I had to face, in any of the 50 States. Because many Some of us may refer to them as wel- trying to encourage students to reg- of those police computers are con- fare benefits. Others of us look at tax ister to vote, though they were not nected to Interpol, we can find out breaks for the wealthy. So it is called from the State. within moments whether or not you tax breaks if you are a wealthy person What did you do to encourage non- are wanted for an international crime in this country, but if you are receiv- residents, so to speak, though they are including terrorism or some inter- ing a Federal benefit, it is called wel- residents once they register for school, national conspiracy. And so within mo- fare. So even how it is labeled and what to take an interest in registering to ments we can find out whether or not it is called in our society is the by- vote and actually vote on an election you are guilty or wanted of some of- product of how we define it politically. day? fense against this Nation or any nation So when people begin to see the rela- Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. One of the around the world. tionship between their vote, it is easy campuses in North Carolina, right in And yet to participate in this democ- to cut welfare in an election year. It is front of the library has a statue, a stat- racy there still remains so many bar- easy to attack the most vulnerable in ue of a famous North Carolinian. On riers, including a 30-day cut off before an election year, because those who do that statue there is a placard that the Federal election or the local elec- not vote cannot defend themselves. reads ‘‘This Nation is democratic in di- tion. Those who do vote will get a tax break. rect proportion to its people’s edu- One of the States in our country that Those who do not vote will get their cation.’’ I remember that from 11 years has the highest participation, which Federal benefits withdrawn, or even ago when I was a student at North has absolutely no registration whatso- their constitutional rights violated or Carolina A&T. ‘‘This Nation is demo- ever, is the State of North Dakota. undermined, and I mean that by Demo- cratic in direct proportion to its peo- There is no voter register required. crats or by Republicans. We have to ac- ple’s education.’’ And guess what, the You just show up on election day, knowledge that all of us, and many of converse of that statement is also true: prove that you live in the State of us, have a political weakness when it This Nation is undemocratic in direct North Dakota, can vote and keep right comes to those vulnerable political, proportion to the level of literacy and on about your business. commercial type issues that could af- intelligence and education or lack of So even voter registration, which is fect our reelection to this institution. education thereof of its people. obviously important for political pur- So once people understand and begin So one of the things that I found poses, is really an outdated method for to appreciate that the political system most valuable for getting students to including and encouraging people to is really the distribution system for participate is education. I simply tell participate in the political process. our economic system, I might add that them that they are the first generation But the gentleman touched upon they begin to participate in great num- of Americans who are graduating with something else that I want to, if he bers. No long ago one of the Presi- a college degree, graduate with a col- would not mind, allow me the oppor- dential candidates had suggested that, lege degree, and if they decide to go to tunity to talk about for a moment, and for example, he would propose an graduate school, 3 years for law school that is the whole issue of why vote at across-the-board 15 percent tax cut. or 4 to 8 years, however long it may all? Why participate in the political The next question I ask as an elected take to get a medical degree, where process? official is how is he going to pay for they have so many student loans as a When I was teaching political orga- that tax cut. There is only one way to result of their college education that it nizing classes and political education pay for it, do what General Powell said, fundamentally affects their career op- classes for the Rainbow Coalition be- eliminate the entitlement state as we tions and their alternatives. fore I became a Member of this body, I know it. What are those entitlements? I chose public service. Fortunately, I used to teach that there were really Those entitlements would be Medicare, went to North Carolina A&T State Uni- three types—two types of material Medicaid, and ending Social Security versity. I played football for North power, but really three types of power. as we know it. That is really the only Carolina A&T State University for a Spiritual power is obviously an impor- way to pay for a 15 percent across-the- year or so before I received an aca- tant power, but it is not a material board tax cut. demic scholarship. I left college not power. So for the purposes of this dis- Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. Or what owing any money, so my genuine desire cussion we will leave spiritual power about education? to become a public servant was directly out; really two types of material Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. We talked related to me not owing $80,000 or power: about one of the President’s plans to $90,000 in bills that are associated with One is economic, and the other is po- rebuild schools, the physical infra- my college education. Had I owed litical, and by definition poor people, structure, and leverage that money, $5 $100,000, $110,000, $120,000 as a result of disenfranchised people and increas- billion, leverage it four times, to $20 graduating from the seminary and ingly growing body of students in our billion, to $23 billion, to rebuild the in- graduating from law school, I quite Nation, because they take student frastructure of our public school sys- probably would have had to have as- loans out to go to school, but at the tems. But if in fact we are not paying sumed a role in private, in the private end of school they cannot find a job, what we should be paying in terms of sector or in private America, just to they cannot get the kind of employ- taxes and making sure that those re- make the kind of salary that would ad- ment that addresses the debt that they sources are not going to an over-bloat- dress these bills. have received as a result of being a stu- ed military budget, but are being di- I share that with students, that when dent; by definition poor people and rected in a way that can help the aver- they graduate from college, that they disenfranchised people and students do age American to help change the qual- are the first generation of Americans not have economic power. What is ity of their lives, not for the rich but who are more than likely moving back available to them? The alternative is for those who are most vulnerable. home with their parents. Their moving available. Political power. Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. You are a back home with their parents is part of And why is political power so impor- former student leader on your college the political process. Many of them tant? Political power and the political campus. How did you and your col- who are incubated by their college en- system really is the distribution sys- leagues encourage young people or get vironment, when they leave college, tem for the economic system. It is in young people at North Carolina A&T they are finding for the very first time this institution and in State legisla- registered to vote? Let us face it, there that there are more unemployed people September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10221 in this Nation with college degrees and so I do not know if I would have been Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. Let me Master’s degrees than at any other able to attend college. just tell the gentleman where many of point in time in our Nation’s history. It would have been irresponsible of our colleagues will be on September 23. They then engage the political sys- me as a recipient of the BEOG, a Gov- The gentleman from Georgia, SANFORD tem, and if they stop complaining ernment grant for higher education to BISHOP, will attend Albany State Col- about what they do not have and just assist me, because I did not have the lege. I just think this is history mak- start using what they have got, pick up kind of resources that other students ing, having every member of the CBC their vote early one morning and exer- may have had, to not vote. I wanted to at a historically black college in this cise it, exercise it in an intelligent protect my BEOG. Every time I heard country to talk about, listen, it is time way, not just vote for exercise but ex- of fights in Washington, DC, about cut- to not just have a program, but to reg- ercise their right to vote and make a ting the BEOG and cutting Pell grants, ister to vote. sound decision, this country will be- I wanted to register even more stu- The gentlewoman from Florida, Ms. come more democratic. dents, because I wanted to make sure CORRINE BROWN, will be at Bethune Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. Mr. Speak- that this program was protected, be- Cookman College and Edward Waters er, I thank the gentleman for his com- cause it is a program that gave benefits College, as well; the gentleman from ment. There are so many creative ways to so many students who, through no Missouri, Mr. WILLIAM CLAY, Lincoln we used, so many creative ways to reg- fault of their own, just did not have the University; the gentlewoman from ister young people to vote on a college resources and parents did not have the North Carolina, EVA CLAYTON, Fayette- campus. We used all kinds of tech- resources to send them to school. ville State; the gentleman from Mary- niques. We got all the professors in- Without it, I would not have gotten a land, Mr. ELIJAH CUMMINGS, a new volved, professors encouraged students higher education. Mr. Speaker, that is Member of this body, Morgan State and to get on a bus. At that time we had to why it is so important. I am going to Coppin State University; the gen- take the bus. give a list of members of this Congres- tleman from Pennsylvania, Mr. CHAKA That is why I cannot even com- sional Black Caucus who will attend FATTAH, Lincoln University; the gen- prehend why a student is not registered Black College Day on the 23d of this tleman from Florida, Mr. ALCEE HAST- to vote, because in 1994 when I was SU month. I just think that is outstand- INGS, Florida A&M; the gentleman president, in 1984, rather, when I was ing. I want to thank you for your lead- from Alabama, Mr. EARL HILLIARD, will SU president, you had to take students ership, that every member of the CBC, be at Alabama State University; the to register. I could not walk up to a every last, every individual member of gentlewoman from the District of Co- student in Louisiana and say, or any- the CBC, the Congressional Black Cau- lumbia, Ms. ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, body, are you registered to vote; no, I cus, will be at an HBCU on Monday, will be at Howard University; the gen- am not. I could not register that stu- September 23, celebrating Black Col- tleman from Louisiana, Mr. WILLIAM dent. But this Congress passed legisla- lege Day, and encouraging young stu- JEFFERSON, Xavier University in New tion where you can do that now. dents to register and vote on all college Orleans; the gentlewoman from Texas, If I was SU president I would walk campuses across America. Ms. EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON, the Paul around with voter registration cards in Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. If the gen- Quinn College; the gentlewoman from my pocket. For every student I came in tleman will yield, Mr. Speaker, it is Texas, Ms. SHEILA JACKSON-LEE, Texas contact with, I would ask the question, really amazing when we talk about this Southern University; the gentleman are you registered to vote? Because process. I want to thank the distin- from Georgia, Mr. JOHN LEWIS, AU Cen- they empowered me as their student guished gentleman from Louisiana for ter; the gentlewoman from Florida, representative on the board of regents, his leadership, and the leadership that Mrs. CARRIE MEEK, will be at Florida their student representative as presi- he has shown oftentimes by himself on Memorial College; the gentleman from dent of the student body, to speak with the floor of this Congress, toward try- Virginia, Mr. BOBBIE SCOTT, Norfolk force to legislators to protect the insti- ing to get young people to participate State University; the gentleman from tution and protect higher education in the process. Mississippi, Mr. BENNIE THOMPSON, statewide. Going back to talking about Today, we passed in the U.S. Con- Jackson State University; the gen- it and saying nothing, we can always gress a bill under suspension of the tleman from Maryland, Mr. ALBERT complain about the problem, but you rules called the Student Debt Reduc- WYNN, Bowie State University. are part of the problem if you are not tion Act, which will go a long way to- I can go on and on. Every member of participating. ward reducing the debt of students who the CBC, and you are trying to make I was not as fortunate as you. Look have taken out these various loans. your alma mater, A&T, or North Caro- at me, I am a little smaller than you. I might add, Mr. Speaker, that we did lina A&T, and a college in Illinois, in I could not play football, could not not pass the Student Debt Elimination your district. There is so much energy play many sports. I did not have an Act, which would totally wipe out the among CBC members who want to par- athletic scholarship. I had a book debt of every student who has ever had ticipate, who want to be at a college on scholarship, a small academic scholar- a student loan in this country. We can that day to get your people registered ship, a book scholarship that only afford it. We are the richest Nation in to vote. But the SGA presidents have a lasted 1 year that I received from the the history of the world, we can afford responsibility and the Greek presidents American Legion. it. If we education is a real priority, we have a responsibility, and all the civic My family, my mom and my dad died can pass a student debt elimination and social organizations have a respon- when I was young, 5 years old. My mom act. But you know what, students are sibility. They have a responsibility to raised 10 of us. There were 10 of us. I going to have to be mad enough about say, by the end of the day, we will reg- could not even afford to take out a stu- student loans as a collective body, a ister 100 percent of our student body. dent loan, to even entertain the spirit is going to have to sweep across Professors have a responsibility. thought of taking out a $5,000 student the Nation where students are calling Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. An achiev- loan each semester. I could not even for the elimination of debt. Because able goal. see how one could pay $5,000. At the our Nation can afford to put children Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. College end of the day, $20,000, $30,000, $40,000 through college. presidents have a responsibility. Most after you graduate, I could not under- The President has a program for 2 colleges, when I was going to school, stand that. years, others have proposed 4-year pro- we had what you call a convocation, I had the opportunity to participate grams for students who desire to go to and freshmen had freshmen seminars, in the Government’s Pell Grant Pro- college. We can afford it if we consider something they had to attend every gram. I was able to get BEOG, the education to be a National Defense week. Every student had to attend con- basic educational opportunity grant. Act. If our country is democratic in di- vocation. You attended convocation. Without that BEOG, quite frankly, rect proportion to our Nation’s edu- What would happen if a college presi- since I did not have an athletic schol- cation, then the defense of this democ- dent said, OK, at this convocation, for arship, I had a small academic scholar- racy, education, must be seen as the the first 15 minutes, I want every stu- ship that only took care of my books, defense of this democracy. dent to be registered to vote; pass out H10222 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 the cards, not influencing students as there is something wrong with that, if Scotia]), Lucy C. Laney ([Clark] Atlanta), to how to vote or how to register in you are just complaining. scientist-educator Booker T. Washington I am a graduate of Chicago Theo- (Hampton), Urban League leader Whitney terms of party affiliation, but if you Young (Kentucky State), NAACP leader Wal- choose to register, you have 15 minutes logical Seminary, and I speak in a lot ter F. White ([Clark] Atlanta), writer Ralph to do so right now. of churches. Just about every Sunday, Ellison (Tuskegee), poet-lyricist James my pastor, the pastor of the Salem I passed a bill in Louisiana where Weldson Johnson ([Clark] Atlanta), and ac- Baptist Church in Chicago, the Rev- tivists Medgar Evers (Alcorn State) and Rosa registration, college registration, will erend James Meeks, we have altar call Parks (Alabama State). incorporate voter registration, when in our church. You would be surprised. And the Present the registrars or voters office has to be I had a meeting with some of the peo- present during college registration on Writers: Nobel Laureate Toni Morrison ple at our church who counsel members (Howard), Alice Walker (Spelman), Nikki college campuses in the State of Lou- of our church. And I asked them some isiana; a way to register students to Giovanni (Fisk), the late Alex Haley (Alcorn questions about what do people share State and Elizabeth City State), and Imamu vote when they register for college. with them most to be their problems. Amin Baraka (Leroi Jones) (Howard). Opera You worked when you were a kid on Some people are concerned about los- singers: Jessye Morman (Howard and a piece, and I remember talking to you, ing their job when they come to altar Leonryne Price (Central State). Historians: I was at Southern and you were at call, some are concerned about their John W. Blassingame (Fort Valley State and A&T, talking about registering stu- illness, whether or not they can check Howard) and John Hope Franklin (Fisk). dents to vote when they graduate from into a hospital, whether or not they Political leaders: Jesse Jackson (North high school; if they graduated with a can afford to add a burden to their fam- Carolina A&T), former ambassador to the diploma in one hand and the voter reg- United Nations Andrew Young, Jr. (Dillard ily. People come to altar call to pray and Howard), former Virginia Governor istration card in the other. I remember for a whole lot of reasons. Many of Douglas Wilder (Howard), former New York that, and that worked. I went back to these things are resolvable if they are Mayor David Dinkins (Howard), former At- Louisiana and I tried to institute the in the political process. lanta mayor Maynard Jackson (Morehouse), same thing. I said, OK, when you grad- Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. Let me former Memphis mayor Willie Herenton uate from high school, you have to ask the gentleman a question. If I were (LeMonye-Owen), Secretary of Energy Hazel have a diploma in one hand. sitting at home tonight and I wanted O’Leary (Fisk), former Surgeon-General Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. Knowledge Joceyln Elders (Philander Smith), former to register to vote, in my dormitory, Secretary of Health and Human Services in one hand and empowerment in the watching television, doing whatever, Louis Sullivan (Morehouse), and many oth- other hand, that is correct. washing, and I just want to register to ers such as * * * and NAACP leader Ben- Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. Knowledge vote, what is that number that I can jamin Hooks (Howard). and power. I cannot overemphasize how call right now if I wanted to register to Enterainers: film director Spike Lee important this is. For the 23d, it is vote? (Morehouse); actor-television host Oprah HBCU, historical black colleges and Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. I would Winfrey (Tennessee State); actors Ossie universities, but listen, every college look at that Jaguar from Southern Davis (Howard), Tim Reid (Norfolk State), Phylicia Rashad (Howard), director-actor students, irrespective of what college University who is sitting at home. Kenny Leon (Clark [Atlanta]), Esther Rolle they attend, ought to register to vote. Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. What is (Spelman); musicians Roberta Flack (How- SGA presidents have their responsibil- that number for my edification? ard), Lionel Ritchie (Tuskegee), Erskine ity. Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. 1–800–REG- Hawkins (Alabama State), Billy Eckstine Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. The old ISTER. It is really simple. 1–800–REG- (Howard), Billy Taylor (Virginia State), and adage is true, if you do not vote, do not ISTER. And ‘‘register’’ is spelled R-E- Branford Marsalis (Southern). complain; really, do not complain if G-I-S-T-E-R. It costs you nothing. It is Also journalist Carl Rowan (Tennessee State); astronaut Ronald E. McNair (North you are not voting, if you are not par- free. Carolina A&T); architect Tarlee Brown ticipating in the political process. The Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. I want to (Tuskegee); founder of a literary journal, reality is that if you do not vote, you make sure I am doing it right. All I Charles H. Rowell (Alabama A&M); kidney do vote. You vote by definition for the have to do if I go back to my office transplant specialist Dr. Samuel Lee Kounta person you do not want to win. That is right now and I wanted to register to (University of Arkansas at Pine Bluff); presi- not a Democratic or Republican state- vote is pick up the phone and dial 1– dent and chief executive officer of Atlanta ment, that is just a statement of politi- Life Insurance, Jesse Hill, Jr. (Lincoln); edu- 800–REGISTER? cator Marva Collins (Clark [Atlanta]); the cal reality. If you do not vote, you can- Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. That is cor- first Black woman member of the American not complain. If you do not vote, you rect. College of Physicians, Dr. Margaret E. got what is coming to you that is com- Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. That is all Grisby (Prairie View A&M); jurists Joseph ing to you, because it is coming to you. I have to do? W. Hatchett of the U.S. Court of Appeals for Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. Or if you the Eleventh Circuit (Florida A&M) and Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. Unless you Henry E. Frye of the North Carolina Su- use the excuse that I am not from Illi- are from the State of Illinois. nois or from Chicago, I am only here preme Court (North Carolina A&T), and Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. What will coaches John Chaney (Bethune-Cookman), for school. happen? They will send me a package Clarence Gaines (Morgan State), Art Shell b 1915 or something? (University of Maryland Eastern Shore), and Eddie Robinson (Leland). You live there, and you will be living Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. It is a toll- Military leaders: the late Daniel James there for the next 2, 3, 4 years. free call where they prompt, they ask (Tuskegee), the first Black four-star general; Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. Nor can you for your name, address, phone Russell C. Davis (Tuskegee), first Black Air you use the excuse that ‘‘I don’t trust number, verify who you are through National Guard general; Dr. Marion Mann politicians, I don’t like politicians.’’ your State Secretary of State. (Tuskegee), medical corps general; Air Force Run yourself. Come up here and try Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. They set Generals Lucius Theus, Tirus Hall, James F. some of this. If you want to engage in this up, and then I have to sign it or Hamlet, Rufus L. Billups, and Charles B. Jiggets (all of Tuskegee); Army generals Eu- a debate, if you want to engage in some something? gene R. Cromarie (Florida A&M), Julitis W. discourse about the future of our Na- Mr. JACKSON of Illinois. That is all Becton, Jr. (Prairie View A&M), Edward tion and the future of our community. you have to do is sign it. It is postage Honor (Southern), Guthrie L. Turner (Shaw), Don’t vote for the politician of your paid, and returned to you. Henry Doctor, Jr., James R. Klugh, and choice. You run and find out how dif- Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana. Mr. Speak- George Price (all of South Carolina State); ficult it is to talk hope into people who and Army nurses corps general Clara Adams- er, I include the following material for Ender (North Carolina A&M).1 are dispirited, to talk hope into the the RECORD: disenfranchised, and to bring them into APPENDIX—SOME PROMINENT HBUC ALUMNI the political process and see how dif- 1 This list, by no means comprehensive, was com- ficult it is. Leaders of the Past piled from information obtained by AAUP Commit- Nobel Laureate Martin Luther King, Jr. tee L from the institutions listed, and from Christa If I were a DJ in America, on the (Morehouse), Supreme Court Justice Brelin, ed., Who’s Who Among Black Americans, radio every morning talking jive, and Thurgood Marshall (Lincoln and Howard), 1992–93 (7th ed.). Detroit: Gale Research, Inc., 1993, you had no substance to your jive, be- educators W.E.B. DuBois (Fisk), Mary and from Leadership and Learning, An Interpretive History of Historically Black Land-Grant Colleges yond the jive that you are talking, McLeod Bethune (Scotia Seminary [Barber- and Universities, 99–111. September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10223

HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND MARYLAND Tennessee State University UNIVERSITIES Bowie State University TEXAS ALABAMA Coppin State College Huston-Tillotson College Alabama A&M University Morgan State University Jarvis Christian College Alabama State University University of Maryland Eastern Shore Paul Quinn College Bishop State Community College MICHIGAN Prairie View A&M University Concordia College Lewis College of Business Saint Phillip’s College Fredd State Technical College MISSISSIPPI Southwestern Christian College Lawson State Community College Texas College Miles College Alcorn State University Texas Southern University Oakwood College Coahoma Community College Wiley College Selma University Jackson State University J.F. Drake Technical College Mary Holmes College VIRGINIA Mississippi Valley State University Stillman College Hampton University Rust College Talladega College Norfolk State University Tougaloo College Trenholm State Technical College Saint Paul’s College Tuskegee University MISSOURI Virginia State University ARKANSAS Harris-Stowe State College Virginia Union University Arkansas Baptist College Lincoln University WEST VIRGINIA Philander Smith College NORTH CAROLINA Bluefield State College Shorter College Barber-Scotia College West Virginia State University University of Arkansas at Pine Bluff Bennett College DELAWARE Elizabeth City State University U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS Delaware State University Fayetteville State University University of the Virgin Islands DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Johnson C. Smith University Livingstone College FEDERAL AGENCIES SUPPORTING HBCUS Howard University North Carolina A&T State University UNDER EXECUTIVE ORDER 12876 University of the District of Columbia North Carolina Central University U.S. Departments of: FLORIDA Saint Augustine’s College Agriculture Bethune-Cookman College Shaw University Commerce Edward Waters College Winston-Salem State University Defense Florida A&M University OHIO Education Florida Memorial College Central State University Energy GEORGIA Wilberforce University Health and Human Services Housing and Urban Development Albany State College OKLAHOMA Clark Atlanta University The Interior Langston University Fort Valley State College Justice Interdenominational Theological Center PENNSYLVANIA Labor Morehouse College Cheyney State University of PA State Morehouse School of Medicine Lincoln University Transportation Morris Brown College SOUTH CAROLINA Treasury Veterans Affairs Paine College Allen University Agency for International Development Savannah State College Benedict College Appalachian Regional Commission Spelman College Claflin College Central Intelligence Agency KENTUCKY Clinton Junior College Environmental Protection Agency Denmark Technical College Kentucky State University Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Morris College LOUISIANA National Aeronautics and Space Administra- South Carolina State University Dillard University tion Voorhees College Grambling State University National Credit Union Administration Southern University and A&M College at TENNESSEE National Endowment for the Arts Baton Rouge Fisk University National Endowment for the Humanities Southern University at New Orleans Knoxville College National Science Foundation Southern University at Shreveport/Bossier Lane College Nuclear Regulatory Commission City Lemoyne-Owen College Small Business Administration Xavier University Meharry Medical College United States Information Agency TABLE 10.—FALL ENROLLMENT IN HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES, BY INSTITUTION, CONTROL, AND SEX: 1976 TO 1990

1976 1978 1980 Institution State Year es- Control tablished Total Women Total Women Total Women

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Total ...... 222,613 117,944 227,797 123,581 233,557 127,170

**Alabama A&M University ...... AL 1875 Public 4-year ...... 4,564 2,246 4,425 2,056 4,380 2,104 Alabama State University 2 ...... AL 1874 Public 4-year ...... 4,153 2,455 4,794 2,844 4,066 2,416 Bishop State Community College 3 ...... AL 1927 Public 2-year ...... 1,649 920 1,500 956 1,425 955 C.A. Fredd State Technical College ...... AL 1965 Public 2-year ...... Carver State Technical College ...... AL 1962 Public 2-year ...... Concordia College 4 ...... AL 1922 Private 2-year ...... 137 70 228 170 243 182 Daniel Payne College, Birmingham 5 ...... AL 1889 Private 4-year ...... 346 165 ...... J.F. Drake Technical College ...... AL 1961 Public 2-year ...... Lawson State Community College 6 ...... AL 1965 Public 2-year ...... 1,345 870 1,271 913 1,056 728 Lomax-Hannon Junior College 7 ...... AL 1893 Private 2-year ...... 126 76 160 89 96 42 Miles College ...... AL 1905 Private 4-year ...... 1,469 739 1,283 704 1,014 528 Oakwood College 8 ...... AL 1896 Private 4-year ...... 1,171 652 1,266 654 1,303 751 Selma University ...... AL 1878 Private 4-year ...... 650 324 632 371 501 276 Stillman College 9 ...... AL 1876 Private 4-year ...... 857 497 607 360 558 317 Talladega College 10 ...... AL 1867 Private 4-year ...... 625 406 705 481 797 576 Trenholm State Technical College ...... AL 1966 Public 2-year ...... **Tuskegee University 11 ...... AL 1881 Private 4-year ...... 3,571 1,797 3,298 1,708 3,736 1,930 Arkansas Baptist College ...... AR 1901 Private 4-year ...... 583 173 445 182 296 146 Philander Smith College ...... AR 1877 Private 4-year ...... 592 249 550 248 590 282 Shorter College ...... AR 1886 Private 2-year ...... 199 98 172 92 164 72 **University of Arkansas, Pine Bluff 12 ...... AR 1873 Public 4-year ...... 3,062 1,653 2,998 1,730 3,064 1,750 **Delaware State College ...... DE 1891 Public 4-year ...... 1,844 885 2,153 1,031 2,084 1,096 Howard University 13 ...... DC 1867 Private 4-year ...... 9,815 4,708 10,339 5,066 11,321 5,845 **University of the District of Columbia 14 ...... DC 1851 Public 4-year ...... 1,322 966 13,661 7,634 13,900 7,698 H10224 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 TABLE 10.—FALL ENROLLMENT IN HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES, BY INSTITUTION, CONTROL, AND SEX: 1976 TO 1990—Continued

1976 1978 1980 Institution State Year es- Control tablished Total Women Total Women Total Women 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Bethune-Cookman College 15 ...... FL 1904 Private 4-year ...... 1,517 855 1,791 1,045 1,738 1,045 Edward Waters College 16 ...... FL 1866 Private 4-year ...... 743 417 660 406 836 548 **Florida A&M University 17 ...... FL 1877 Public 4-year ...... 5,779 2,913 5,882 2,987 5,371 2,726 Florida Memorial College 18 ...... FL 1879 Private 4-year ...... 412 177 797 428 950 502 Albany State College ...... GA 1903 Public 4-year ...... 2,222 1,289 1,750 1,066 1,555 897 Clark Atlanta University 19 ...... GA 1989 Private 4-year ...... Atlanta University 20 ...... GA 1865 Private 4-year ...... 1,177 656 1,227 658 1,371 706 Clark College 21 ...... GA 1869 Private 4-year ...... 1,792 1,135 1,849 1,216 2,107 1,397 **Fort Valley State College 22 ...... GA 1895 Public 4-year ...... 1,869 910 1,872 973 1,814 983 Interdenominational Theological Center ...... GA 1958 Private 4-year ...... 227 31 288 41 273 36 Morehouse College ...... GA 1867 Private 4-year ...... 1,402 0 1,659 0 2,006 28 Morehouse School of Medicine 23 ...... GA 1978 Private 4-year ...... Morris Brown College 24 ...... GA 1881 Private 4-year ...... 1,579 806 1,684 950 1,611 983 Paine College ...... GA 1882 Private 4-year ...... 775 472 817 563 748 473 Savannah State College 25 ...... GA 1890 Public 4-year ...... 2,847 1,713 2,229 1,291 2,110 1,090 Spelman College 26 ...... GA 1881 Private 4-year ...... 1,289 1,289 1,262 1,262 1,366 1,366 **Kentucky State University ...... KY 1886 Public 4-year ...... 2,389 1,167 2,196 1,045 2,336 1,236 Dillard University 27 ...... LA 1869 Private 4-year ...... 1,186 875 1,217 891 1,208 902 Grambling State University 28 ...... LA 1901 Public 4-year ...... 4,048 2,144 3,623 1,968 3,549 1,797 **Southern University and A&M College, Baton Rouge ...... LA 1880 Public 4-year ...... 8,995 4,970 8,061 4,424 8,372 4,409 Southern University, New Orleans ...... LA 1959 Public 4-year ...... 3,311 1,928 2,710 1,748 2,574 1,733 Southern University, Shreveport-Bossier City Campus ...... LA 1964 Public 2-year ...... 974 580 692 481 723 507 Xavier University of Louisiana 29 ...... LA 1915 Private 4-year ...... 1,846 1,086 1,895 1,166 2,004 1,277 Bowie State University 30 ...... MD 1865 Public 4-year ...... 2,845 1,598 2,722 1,545 2,757 1,619 Coppin State College 31 ...... MD 1900 Public 4-year ...... 2,949 2,122 2,874 2,114 2,541 1,838 Morgan State University ...... MD 1867 Public 4-year ...... 6,254 3,333 5,209 2,891 5,050 2,851 **University of Maryland, Eastern Shore ...... MD 1886 Public 4-year ...... 994 451 1,057 462 1,073 543 Lewis College of Business 32 ...... MI 1874 Private 2-year ...... 225 180 560 431 487 392 **Alcorn State University ...... MS 1871 Public 4-year ...... 2,603 1,476 2,296 1,365 2,341 1,346 Coahoma Community College 33 ...... MS 1949 Public 2-year ...... 1,446 696 1,425 837 1,394 984 Hinds Community College, Utica Campus 34 ...... MS 1954 Public 2-year ...... 994 544 834 492 1,005 575 Jackson State University ...... MS 1877 Public 4-year ...... 7,928 4,283 7,646 4,274 7,099 4,078 Mary Holmes College ...... MS 1892 Private 2-year ...... 624 279 655 333 422 218 Mississippi Industrial College 35 ...... MS 1905 Private 4-year ...... 314 162 270 150 239 139 Mississippi Valley State University ...... MS 1946 Public 4-year ...... 3,228 1,718 2,899 1,629 2,564 1,461 Natchez Junior College 36 ...... MS 1884 Private 2-year ...... 19 16 62 56 ...... Prentiss Institute 37 ...... MS 1907 Private 2-year ...... 139 80 81 50 146 83 Rust College ...... MS 1866 Private 4-year ...... 883 555 725 503 715 434 Tougaloo College 38 ...... MS 1869 Private 4-year ...... 810 541 960 634 886 598 Harris-Stowe State College 39 ...... MO 1857 Public 4-year ...... 1,248 862 1,102 827 1,175 832 **Lincoln University 40 ...... MO 1866 Public 4-year ...... 2,341 1,037 2,332 1,047 2,651 1,202 Barber-Scotia College 41 ...... NC 1867 Private 4-year ...... 526 289 401 247 317 191 Bennett College 42 ...... NC 1873 Private 4-year ...... 618 618 614 614 620 620 Elizabeth City State University 43 ...... NC 1891 Public 4-year ...... 1,651 929 1,584 908 1,488 836 Fayetteville State University 44 ...... NC 1877 Public 4-year ...... 1,940 1,114 2,125 1,268 2,465 1,440 Johnson College Smith University ...... NC 1867 Private 4-year ...... 1,599 805 1,473 766 1,379 740 Livingstone College ...... NC 1879 Private 4-year ...... 909 400 921 448 879 366 **North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University ...... NC 1891 Public 4-year ...... 5,515 2,675 5,385 2,580 5,510 2,473 North Carolina Central University 45 ...... NC 1910 Public 4-year ...... 4,782 2,849 4,810 2,919 4,910 3,013 St. Augustine’s College ...... NC 1867 Private 4-year ...... 1,641 997 1,762 1,003 1,861 1,063 Shaw University ...... NC 1865 Private 4-year ...... 1,453 648 1,263 549 1,523 749 Winston-Salem State University 46 ...... NC 1892 Public 4-year ...... 2,094 1,277 2,204 1,329 2,220 1,313 Central State University 47 ...... OH 1887 Public 4-year ...... 2,182 1,084 2,414 1,171 3,031 1,554 Wilberforce University 48 ...... OH 1856 Private 4-year ...... 1,109 493 1,026 473 1,082 558 **Langston University 49 ...... OK 1897 Public 4-year ...... 1,128 503 942 391 1,179 497 Cheyney University of Pennsylvania 50 ...... PA 1837 Public 4-year ...... 2,848 1,289 2,637 1,345 2,426 1,249 Lincoln University 51 ...... PA 1854 Public 4-year ...... 1,104 537 1,132 513 1,294 665 Allen University 52 ...... SC 1870 Private 4-year ...... 543 275 419 213 410 210 Benedict College ...... SC 1870 Private 4-year ...... 1,982 1,267 1,761 1,152 1,426 914 Claflin College 53 ...... SC 1869 Private 4-year ...... 1.005 640 852 560 739 481 Clinton Junior College 54 ...... SC 1894 Private 2-year ...... 208 81 122 34 116 54 Denmark Technical College 55 ...... SC 1948 Public 2-year ...... 565 239 669 317 Friendship College 56 ...... SC 1891 Private 2-year ...... 193 56 166 46 343 141 Morris College ...... SC 1908 Private 4-year ...... 638 368 637 386 626 372 **South Carolina State College ...... SC 1896 Public 4-year ...... 3,678 2,127 3,437 1,999 3,929 2,192 Voorhees College 57 ...... SC 1897 Private 4-year ...... 1,050 617 794 487 613 390 Fisk University 58 ...... TN 1867 Private 4-year ...... 1,279 761 1,150 721 1,009 682 Knoxville College 59 ...... TN 1875 Private 4-year ...... 837 435 713 343 557 205 Lane College 60 ...... TN 1882 Private 4-year ...... 701 341 673 345 757 378 LeMoyne-Owen College 61 ...... TN 1862 Private 4-year ...... 1,118 677 990 637 1,063 690 Meharry Medical College 62 ...... TN 1876 Private 4-year ...... 886 362 1,038 445 817 298 Morristown College 63 ...... TN 1881 Private 2-year ...... 176 79 149 68 114 45 **Tennessee State University 64 ...... TN 1912 Public 4-year ...... 5,480 2,919 5,537 2,855 8,318 4,435 Bishop College 65 ...... TX 1881 Private 4-year ...... 1,664 694 1,569 708 945 273 Huston-Tillotson College 66 ...... TX 1876 Private 4-year ...... 717 268 616 271 692 290 Jarvis Christian College 67 ...... TX 1912 Private 4-year ...... 526 257 480 237 619 307 Paul Quinn College 68 ...... TX 1872 Private 4-year ...... 537 236 421 195 438 230 **Prairie View A&M University ...... TX 1876 Public 4-year ...... 5,118 2,660 5,101 2,667 6,592 3,542 St. Philip’s College ...... TX 1927 Public 2-year ...... 6,900 2,034 6,782 2,218 6,860 2,308 Southwestern Christian College 69 ...... TX 1949 Private 4-year ...... 341 154 471 138 285 146 Texas College ...... TX 1894 Private 4-year ...... 725 377 468 241 476 218 Texas Southern University 70 ...... TX 1947 Public 4-year ...... 9,170 4,350 8,802 4,261 8,100 3,564 Wiley College ...... TX 1873 Private 4-year ...... 599 293 615 319 664 328 Hampton University 71 ...... VA 1868 Private 4-year ...... 2,805 1,714 2,808 1,738 3,230 1,930 Norfolk State University 72 ...... VA 1935 Public 4-year ...... 6,956 4,074 7,283 4,146 7,286 4,324 St. Paul’s College ...... VA 1888 Private 4-year ...... 626 331 615 313 645 322 Virginia College 73 ...... VA 1886 Private 2-year ...... 242 91 251 88 ...... **Virginia State University 74 ...... VA 1882 Public 4-year ...... 5,229 2,963 4,475 2,518 4,668 2,645 Virginia Union University ...... VA 1865 Private 4-year ...... 1,424 704 1,178 618 1,361 682 Bluefield State College ...... WV 1895 Public 4-year ...... 1,735 774 2,283 1,173 2,742 1,456 West Virginia State College ...... WV 1891 Public 4-year ...... 4,001 1,813 3,678 1,874 4,353 2,413 **University of the Virgin Islands, St. Thomas Campus 75 ...... VI 1962 Public 4-year ...... 2,122 1,350 1,848 1,266 2,148 1,533 —Data not reported or not applicable. **Land-grant institution. 1 Preliminary data. 2 Founded as the Lincoln Normal School, a private institution. In 1874, became first state-supported historically black college. 3 Founded as the Alabama State Branch by Mrs. Fredericka Evans and Dr. H. Council Trenholm, President of Alabama State College. In 1936, the College began offering a 2-year curriculum as part of the parent institution, Alabama State University. In 1965, the College became an independent junior college and the name was changed to Mobile State Junior College. In 1971, the name of the institution was changed to honor its first President, Dr. S.D. Bishop. 4 Formerly called Alabama Lutheran Academy and College. In 1981 changed name to Concordia College. Affiliated with the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod. 5 School closed in 1977. 6 In October 1973, Wenonah Vocational Trade School for Negroes (founded in 1949) and Theodore Alfred Lawson State Junior College (founded in 1963 and known as the Wenonah State Technical Junior College between 1963 and 1969), merged as a result of Alabama legislation adopted June 1972. 7 Prior to closing in 1984, the school was affiliated with the African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church. 8 Is owned and operated by the General Conference of Seventh-Day Adventists. 9 Affiliated with the Presbyterian Church. 10 Was the first school in Alabama to admit students regardless of race. 11 Founded by Booker T. Washington. Formerly called Tuskegee Institute. September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10225 12 Founded as Branch Normal College, it continued from 1927 until 1972 as Arkansas Agricultural, Mechanical, and Normal College. In 1972, it joined four other campuses to comprise the University of Arkansas System. 13 Founded as a coeducational and multiracial private university in 1867 by an act of the U.S. Congress, the University is named after General Oliver Otis Howard, Commissioner of the Freedmen’s Bureau. 14 The roots of the University of the District of Columbia, the nation’s only metropolitan, land-grant institution of higher education stretch back to 1851 when Myrtilla Miner opened a school to prepare black women to teach. In 1976, three public higher education institutions, D.C. Teachers College, Federal City College, and Washington Technical Institute, were merged into the University of the District of Columbia. This merger caused the apparent enrollment increase in 1978. 15 Upon the merger in 1923 of Cookman Institute for Men, founded in 1872 by the Reverend D.S.B. Darnell, and Daytona Normal and Industrial Institute for Women, founded in 1904 by Dr. Mary McLeod Bethune, the institution became the Daytona Cookman Collegiate Institute and was taken over by the Board of Education of the Methodist Church. The name was later changed to Bethune-Cookman College. 16 Founded as Brown Theological Institute. Edward Waters College is the oldest historically black institute of higher learning in the State of Florida. Affiliated with the African Methodist Episcopal Church. 17 Designated as a land-grant institution in 1891 and became a university in 1953. Founded in 1887 as the State Normal College For Colored Students. 18 Affiliated with the Baptist Church. 19 Atlanta University and Clark College merged July 1, 1989, and became Clark Atlanta University. 20 In 1929, the college became an exclusively graduate and professional institution, the first with a predominantly black student body; merged with Clark College in 1989. 21 Founded as the first Methodist-affiliated college to serve African Americans. 22 The Fort Valley Normal and Industrial School merged with the Forsyth State Teachers and Agricultural College in 1939 to become Fort Valley State College. 23 Morehouse School of Medicine began in 1975 as a medical program within Morehouse College. In April 1985, the school was granted full accreditation to award an M.D. degree. 24 Affiliated with the African Methodist Episcopal Church and is the only surviving college founded by blacks in Georgia. 25 Called Georgia State College until 1947, it was established as a school for the training and education of Negro youth. It served as the state land-grant institution for blacks until this function was transferred to Fort Valley State Col- lege. The Regents of the University System changed the name to Savannah State College in 1950. 26 The nation’s oldest undergraduate liberal arts college for black women. 27 Affiliated with the United Church of Christ and the United Methodist Church. 28 Founded by Charles P. Adams. Is a multi-purpose, state-supported, coeducational institution. 29 The only historically black institution with Catholic affiliation. 30 Bowie State University is part of the University of Maryland System. Formerly Bowie State College. 31 The only public senior college in the University of Maryland System. 32 Founded by Dr. Violet T. Lewis to provide postsecondary business education to urban dwellers unable to obtain training from other institutions. This school originated in a store front in Indianapolis, Indiana. 33 Was established as Coahoma Junior College in 1949. In 1989, the College was renamed Coahoma Community College. 34 Founded by Dr. William H. Holtzclaw. Formerly called Utica Junior College and then Hinds Junior College. 35 Lost accreditation in 1983 and closed in 1986. Lane College in Tennessee maintains their records. 36 School no longer eligible for listing. 37 Formerly Prentiss Normal and Industrial Institute. Closed in 1990. 38 In 1869, the American Missionary Association of New York purchased a plantation of 500 acres near Jackson, Mississippi, and established on it a school for the training of young people irrespective of their religion and race. 39 Founded in 1857 as the first teacher education institution west of the Mississippi. Was formerly known as Harris Teachers College and Harris Stowe College. 40 A land-grant, comprehensive, multi-purpose institution of higher education founded by members of the 62nd and 65th U.S. Colored Infantry units as Lincoln Institute in 1866. 41 Founded as Scotia Seminary, a preparatory for young Negro women. In 1916 changed its name to Scotia Women’s College. Merged with Barber Memorial College in 1930. In 1932 changed name to Barber-Scotia College and then changed to coeducational in 1954. Historically affiliated to the Presbyterian Church (USA). 42 Founded as a coeducational institution and reorganized as a women’s college in 1926. Is affiliated with the United Methodist Church. 43 Founded as a Normal School for the specific purpose of teaching and training teachers of the black race to teach in the common schools. Since 1972, it has been part of the 16-campus University of North Carolina System. Granted its first degrees in 1939 when it was known as Elizabeth City State Teachers College. 44 Began as Howard School in 1867. In 1877 its name was changed to the State Colored Normal School. It is the second oldest state-supported institution in North Carolina and one of the oldest teacher education institutions in the South. In 1939, the institution began a 4-year program and became Fayetteville State Teachers College marking the beginning of a 4-year curriculum. In 1972, became part of the University of North Carolina System. 45 Founded by Dr. James E. Shepard. In 1925, became the nation’s first state-supported liberal arts college for black people. 46 Founded as Slater Industrial Academy. Became Winston-Salem Teachers College, the first black institution in the U.S. to grant degrees for teaching in the elementary grades. 47 Originated as a separate department of Wilberforce University in 1887. Became independent in 1947. 48 Founded as the first coeducational college for blacks. Affiliated with the African Methodist Episcopal Church. 49 Was founded as the Colored Agricultural and Normal University. The present name was adopted in 1941. 50 Founded by Richard Humphreys, a Philadelphia Quaker. It is the nation’s oldest historically black institution of higher learning. Began as a high school in 1837 and offered its first baccalaureate degree in the 1930s. Formerly known as Cheyney State College. 51 The first institution established anywhere in the world to provide higher education in the arts and sciences for male youth of African descent. It was chartered as Ashmun Institute, an all-male institution, and remained as such for almost 100 years. It graduated its first woman in 1953, but it did not become fully coeducational until 1965. 52 Founded under the auspices of the African Methodist Episcopal Church. 53 Founded by two Methodist laymen from Massachusetts, William and Lee Claflin. 54 School was not eligible for listing in 1988. Affiliated with the African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church. 55 Founded as an all black trade school. In 1969, became a public 2-year branch campus of the South Carolina technical education system. 56 Closed in 1982. Formerly known as Friendship Junior College. 57 Founded by Elizabeth Evelyn Wright, it is a coeducational, liberal arts college. 58 Incorporated under the laws of the State of Tennessee on August 22, 1867. The purpose was the education and training of young black men and women. 59 Knoxville College now has two campuses. In 1989, Morristown College merged with Knoxville College. Knoxville was founded in 1875 by the United Presbyterian Church of North America. 60 Founded by the Colored (Christian) Methodist Episcopal Church as the C.M.E. High School, and became Lane College in 1895. 61 In 1968 LeMoyne College and Owen College merged. 62 Founded as the Medical Department of Central Tennessee College, with the mission of educating health professionals for the black population. Meharry became an independent medical college in 1915. Meharry Medical College has trained close to one-third of the black physicians and dentists practicing in the United States today. 63 After closing in 1988, Morristown was annexed by Knoxville College in 1989. 64 Founded in 1912 as the Tennessee Agriculture and Industrial State Normal School for Negroes. It merged with the University of Tennessee at Nashville in 1979 and now has two campuses. 65 Closed in 1988; was affiliated with the Baptist Church. 66 Was formed in 1952 by the merger of Tillotson College (founded in 1875) and Samuel Huston College (founded in 1876). Is supported by the United Methodist Church and the United Church of Christ. 67 A private coeducational college founded in 1912 and affiliated with the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). 68 Paul Quinn College began in a one room building in Austin, Texas, by a group of African Methodist Episcopal circuit riders who saw a need for a trade school to teach newly freed slaves. The college moved to Dallas in 1990 to the campus formerly occupied by Bishop College which closed in 1988. 69 Formerly a 2-year institution, but became a 4-year institution offering bachelor’s degrees in 1984. 70 Founded as the Houston Colored Junior College. Its successor, Houston College for Negroes was transferred to the State of Texas following passage of a bill creating Texas State University for Negroes. Established as a State University in 1947. The name was changed to Texas Southern University in 1951. 71 Founded by General Samuel Chapman Armstrong. Hampton is Virginia’s only coeducational, non-denominational 4-year private college. Formerly known as Hampton Institute and Hampton College. 72 Formerly known as Norfolk State College. 73 Changed name to Virginia Seminary and College. Closed in 1980. 74 The first fully state-supported, 4-year bachelor’s degree black college in America. Founded in March 1882, when the Virginia legislature passed a bill to charter the Virginia Normal and Collegiate Institute. Formerly known as Virginia State College. 75 This is a public, coeducational, land-grant institution that was founded in 1962 by enabling legislation of the Virgin Islands Legislature. Formerly known as College of Virgin Islands. Note.—Some schools are estimated on the previous year enrollment on this table. Source: U.S. Department of Education, National Center for Education Statistics, Higher Education General Information Survey (HEGIS), ‘‘Fall Enrollment in Colleges and Universities’’ surveys; and Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System (IPEDS), ‘‘Fall Enrollment’’ surveys. (This table was prepared January 1992.)

COMBATING THE NATION’S DRUG eve of an election, against tobacco dience full of 13-, 14-, 15-, 16-year-olds, PROBLEM when he has had the Presidency for 4 if you had it to do again would you The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. years? Why suddenly? have inhaled, to which a snickering, TAYLOR of North Carolina). Under the One of the suggestions that people laughing Bill Clinton said, ‘‘Sure. Sure, Speaker’s announced policy of May 12, have, and I think this is a legitimate, if I could. I tried before. Ha-ha.’’ 1995, the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. it goes back to when Bill Clinton was So here we are, he is running for the KINGSTON] is recognized for 60 minutes. talking on national TV on MTV, the President of the United States and at Mr. KINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I want- music television show which gets a that time, this was on June 12, 1992, he ed to talk tonight a little bit about the huge audience of, say, 13 to 20-year- was clearly on his way to being the growing debate about the drug war and olds, I will watch it every now and then Democrat nominee, standing in front of talk about some of the things that this myself, it is good, it is not just those 13-, 14-, 15-year-olds, makes a joke Congress has done to combat the drug ages; they have some good programs; of about it. So let us kind of say, well, problem in America and the youth. course they have some other things that is what happened. Think about I think there are two things that we that are pretty questionable. that as exhibit 1. need to keep in mind. One is the statis- He was asked if given another chance Now play that scenario again, Mr. tics, and the other is the recent salvo to smoke marijuana, would he have in- Candidate for President Clinton, if you of the Clinton administration about to- haled; because, of course, Bill Clinton had to do it again, would you have in- bacco. I, like you, have young children. would have everyone in America be- haled? I am concerned about my children lieving that he never inhaled, which ‘‘You know, if I had to do it again, I smoking at early ages and I am con- this particular President seems to be never would have smoked marijuana. I cerned about the health problems of able to get away with a lot of things never would have tried. It hurts your smoking and so forth. But why did Bill but he is famous for saying he did not ambition, it hurts your grades, it hurts Clinton come out so strong now, on the inhale. But when asked by an MTV au- your abilities to do sports. It can be a H10226 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 steppingstone drug to other drugs. It This past weekend, the Speaker was perimented and admitted to inhaling could have psychological addiction. It outraged when the President had the illegal drugs. They were very sorry. is a bad thing. I tried it, it was ramp- audacity to write a letter that blamed They said, yes, I smoked marijuana ant in the 1960’s. Do not fall for it in Congress for not fully funding his anti- once or twice, I was in college, every- the 1990’s. We know so much more drug program. We know what has hap- body was doing it, so I stopped, I about it.’’ pened. His sideshow with tobacco has stopped using marijuana after I left Just think, Mr. Speaker, if you are a not brought in the poll numbers that college. I am ashamed that I ever did 14-year-old kid and you are sitting on he expected, so he is going to come at it, but it was stupid and I am sorry the fence with half your friends smok- the drug problem now head-on by blam- agents like you were risking your lives ing marijuana and the other half not ing it on Congress. So here are some fighting drug traffickers and I did not smoking and you were sitting on the statistics on that that we want to talk have the guts to stand up to peer pres- fence, in that audience, and you had about. sure. the soon-to-be President of the United Is Congress to blame? One of Presi- What Mr. Aldrich does in his book, he States tell you, sure, if I had another dent Clinton’s first acts as President contrasts this to Clinton staffers. Re- chance I would try it, versus, no way, was to slash the staff of the drug czar member, this guy was there at the hell no, it is bad for you, do not make by 83 percent. He cut drug interdiction time. He said, by contrast, Clinton my mistake, think which way you spending 25 percent below the Bush ad- staffers, older or younger, make no would go if you were that 14-year-old. ministration. And from 1992 to 1995, 227 apology for their illegal drug use, Instead, what happens is we have a agent positions were eliminated from which was much more extensive, with passive, I would say endorsement on the Drug Enforcement Agency. heavy drugs like cocaine, crack, LSD. drug use and drug culture. Let us talk about the Drug Enforce- Many were actually in your face about So what is the Clinton drug record? ment Agency, Mr. Speaker. I believe it, using the FBI interview to try to de- Here are some great statistics that the total number of employees at the bate me, me being Gary Aldrich, on the have just come out. They are not great Drug Enforcement Agency, the DEA as merits of making drugs legal. in the sense that they are optimistic it is called often, I believe it is around That sets a tone of this White House by any stretch, but they have just 6,800 people. How many people do we having certainly, I am not going to say come out. They are from a 1996, Au- have working for the IRS? One hundred a drug culture, but certainly a dif- gust, 1 month ago, report by the House- eleven thousand employees. ferent view of drugs entirely than soci- hold Survey on Drug Abuse, the De- So we have got 111,000 employees who ety; because I think society as a whole partment of Human Services, which of are going to breathe down the necks of recognizes the danger of drugs, recog- course is controlled by the Clinton lib- middle-class tax-paying Americans to nizes that it is not a positive thing, eral Democrats. But it says that drug make sure that they fill out their taxes that society as a whole does not want use among teenagers has exploded. right. But in terms of cracking down to legalize marijuana, which again was From 1992 to 1995, overall drug use on drug thugs, we only have about 6,800 one of the Clinton Cabinet and adviser from 12- to 17-year-olds has gone up 78 people and 227 of them have had their things that they brought up. percent. Marijuana use during the 1992 jobs eliminated under President Clin- Here is another quote, again Mr. Al- to 1995 period is up 105 percent. LSD, ton. drich says incidents like these, and it 103 percent increase. Cocaine, from 1994 Drug prosecution. What is going on is talking about an incident of some- to 1995, 166 percent increase. over at the Attorney General’s office? body who had had some marijuana and Think about that, Mr. Speaker. That They are in on that, too. Drug prosecu- polygraph problems, but the word had is all during the Clinton administra- tion has dropped 12 percent during trickled down that the Clinton staff tion, during the period of time when he Clinton’s first 2 years as President. system was rigged and there were some was slashing interdiction, cutting fund- And we remember one of his key top paperwork problems, that they would ing for drug enforcement agents and advisers and Cabinet members had a blur over people’s drug use or whatever sending these cynical messages to our son who was involved and arrested for like that. children about what drug use means. drug usage and maybe drug sales, I am b I had a conversation with my 13-year- not sure; I know drug usage, and at the 1930 old the other day. We have a constant time she said, as a good mother should This book goes into great detail dialogue about this because already in say, she thought he had done no wrong; about it. It also talks about the drug her class, even though she goes to a I guess a good mother should say, I am czar and some of the Cabinet members. very good school, I know most of the still behind my son, I love him, even Originally the drug czar was not the parents, most of the kids have gone to though he has done wrong; but I would gentleman who is drug czar now, who is that same school all their life, they do say in true Clinton administration a fine gentleman and doing a very good not have a lot of transplants coming in fashion; blamed it on society. That is job over there. I am glad to see that and out of the system, it is a very sta- the kind of people that we seem to Clinton has recognized that, and I am ble environment, they already have one have surrounding the President. sorry to see it is in the 11th hour of his kid who was smoking marijuana in The recent book that came out by administration. their class. Gary Aldrich who was a top FBI ad- But, you know, getting back to what If you want some more statistics, and viser over at the White House, the the Gingrich-Clinton discussion was this is something that as a parent of name of the book is ‘‘Unlimited Ac- about over the weekend, I think it is four kids I am very concerned about— cess,’’ it is an FBI agent who is no good to hear what the Speaker said in this is from the Luntz Research Co.— longer with the administration but his letter back to Clinton. Clinton by the time the average teenager who was there during the key periods wrote that Congress has not come up reaches 17, 79 percent of the teenagers of time in the administration, he talks with $640 million in appropriations or have friends who are regular drinkers, about the big difference between, say, his request to spend more money on 60 percent of the teenagers can buy Bush applicants and Clinton appli- drugs in the safe and drug free school marijuana within 1 day, 62 percent of cants. And I am not going to say that program. our teenagers under 17 have friends this book is gospel, I am not going to I am a member of appropriations, as who use marijuana, 58 percent have say that all of this has been verified. you are, Mr. Speaker. I have never been been solicited to buy marijuana, 58 per- Frankly, some of it has, some of it has lobbied by anybody except for the new cent know someone who personally not. I will say this; that if Anita Hill drug czar about increasing spending for uses acid, cocaine or heroin, 43 percent said anything that was truth, then this drug interdiction, enforcement, or con- know someone who has a personal drug book is gospel compared to Anita Hill, victions. I have not had anybody from problem, and 42 percent find marijuana but I am not going to get into opinions the administration contact me as an easier to buy than either beer or ciga- too much, just read a little bit of it appropriations member and say this is rettes. I think that is very interesting. here. what we need. I have had some other These statistics, Mr. Speaker, as you That a minority of Bush applicants, agencies do that, but they were not know, are of major concern. and this is on page 112 of the book, ex- acting from the administration. September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10227 The Speaker wrote back: It is an out- coming from Peru or Bolivia. They are We have banned most gifts to Mem- rage to watch you, to the President, to manufactured there, and then they are bers of Congress. There was a time, as watch you, the President, joke about brought to Colombia, where the lab is. you know, when the Congressmen your own drug use. You have elimi- Then from Colombia they are flown to could do anything, travel anywhere, nated 83 percent of the drug czar’s of- a ship or flown to another country and and collect honorariums. That is not fice after being sworn in, and you stood dropped off, either with a quick land- the case anymore. by while your Surgeon General called ing, or sometimes they have to just We have reduced the franking privi- for drug legalization and your Attor- drop the stuff and keep going. leges, that is the free mail we get. In ney General testified against manda- This drug interdiction plan would my office, and I know in yours, Mr. tory minimum sentences for drug deal- track drug planes and tell the people Speaker, we keep it down, because it is ers. on the ground where they are going to, running for reelection on the tax- He also contended that Clinton tried and so forth, because right now, of payers’ expense. to cut antidrug efforts by law enforce- course, the drug planes are flying with- We have put term limits on commit- ment agencies, appointed Federal out flight plans, without running lights tee chairs and top congressional lead- judges who are easy on drug dealers. and so forth, and they are very hard to ers. We have done that because we Mr. Speaker, let me talk about that. detect. Drug interdiction planes would think that that will put new blood and Typical Clinton-appointed judge: This be a great help in fighting that. new energy into the committee system, was a case where a woman pulled up We are spending $13 million more instead of some old bull who has been into a high crime district in New York than President Clinton requested for sitting there for 25 years, and maybe he City. She hops out of her car. Four men intelligence efforts against drug car- is contributing, maybe he is not. Some- come out of the dark alleyway and put tels, and $9.5 more for interdictions on body else comes along who has more two duffel bags into the trunk of the the southwest border. We have in- energy and perhaps more intellect, he car. When that happened, law enforce- creased funding to fight drugs in high has only been there 6 years. Let him ment personnel closed in on her. The crime neighborhoods by $10 million. have a shot at it. That is something we people ran. The police caught them. Now, we have a philosophical dis- think is very important. They arrested them, took them to agreement on some of the spending for We have moved in terms of reducing court. the Safe and Drug Free Schools Pro- the amount of Government. We have In court, the liberal Clinton-ap- gram, because some of that was frank- tried our best to dismantle some of the pointed judge threw out the bags of co- ly getting wasted. But there is a lot of bureaucracy, not all of it, but some of caine, which was in the duffel bags, full good that came from it, because this the duplications and so forth. We have of, I think, 80 pounds of cocaine in each was a Reagan program. It was part of reduced the paperwork in the Federal duffel bag, threw that out as evidence. the Nancy Reagan just say no program. agencies. He said in that neighborhood running One of the things that is interesting One of the things that I have always from the police is logical and rational about Nancy Reagan’s program, Mr. been amazed at as I go down in the behavior because police in that neigh- Speaker, is that as the liberal Washing- basement of the Rayburn Building borhood are oppressive. That was the ton elite snickered at it because it was across the hall is there are rolls and Clinton-appointed judge who was sup- just too simple, it is interesting that rolls of paper, some of them as tall as posed to be protecting our children on up until 1992, drug usage for every drug I am, and it is just paper we will use in our streets from drug thugs and traf- except for heroin fell up until 1992. our Government Printing Office for all fickers and pushers. Then you get a new President, you get our documents and so forth. I would That is the kind of mentality we a new tone, a new drug philosophy, and venture to say, many of them get proc- have here. It is just two different per- what happens? Drug usage is right essed, printed, and thrown away, still ceptions of the problem. back up. unread. The letter from Mr. GINGRICH goes So this is something that we have Just kind of skipping around a little on, and I think it is a good one, but he got to keep fighting on. It is something bit, we have eliminated over 270 unnec- points to a lot of facts. This year, Re- where marijuana is more deadly now essary Federal programs. The number publicans in Congress will provide $173 than it was when we were teenagers. of bureaucrats was reduced in 29 of the million for the Drug Enforcement There are chemicals and so forth that 39 major government offices. Defense Agency. That is $20 million more than are mixed into it. It is not the same spending was reduced as a result of the President had requested. plant that parents say, ‘‘Well, I smoked congressional initiatives. The Republican Congress is increas- a little marijuana. It will not hurt my We have to be very careful on defense ing funding for INS, $542 million, in- 15 year old.’’ It might, because it is a spending because it costs so much to cluding 400 more Border Patrol agents. different drug, and it is a different age train somebody to drive a tank or fly That, Mr. Speaker, is the Immigration in terms of drugs. an airplane, and that is someone’s son Service. As we know, one of the big So I think that when you look at the or daughter in that expensive equip- problems we have with drug trafficking statistics that the Luntz Corp. put out, ment, and we want them to have the is people coming over the borders from we have got to be very, very concerned. best equipment that is available. Also, out of the country bringing in drugs. If With that, Mr. Speaker, I am going you never know how many fronts there we can crack down on illegal immigra- to move on to a couple of the other may be a problem on, the Middle East, tion, we are also cracking down on things that are of great concern in Bosnia, Korea. We have to be ready in drug trafficking. terms of this Congress, some of the re- America. Mr. Speaker, it is interesting to note forms that we have done. We cut spending last year by $45 bil- that 22 percent of the prison population This Congress has made a lot of lion. We reformed welfare and changed in our Federal penal system are illegal changes. The reforms we have put in welfare to a program that is work- aliens, and 80 percent of them are in are all commonsense based. We have based, and we have put the caseworkers jail for violent offenses, and many, given the President the line-item veto. back home closer to the decisionmak- many related to drugs. That will be effective in January. We ing process, rather than having a cook- Republicans are also providing $914 have applied the same laws to Congress ie-cutter, one-size-fits-all. million in the defense budget for drug that the private sector has to live But, you know the thing that worries interdiction and counter drug activi- under. That goes for OSHA, EPA, regu- me the most, Mr. Speaker, is you are ties. I met with a gentleman today who latory departments of all natures that working harder and harder and getting represents a group who is trying to have to govern us. This was a Repub- nowhere for it. Are you worried that support new funding for an airplane for lican initiative. your children are not going to be able Customs. This airplane has a special We have cut the budget of Congress to have the lifestyle that you enjoy? kind of radar that can be used to detect by $67 million. We have eliminated 28 Are you worried that your children are drug dealers. As you probably know, committees and subcommittees, and not going to be able to enjoy the Amer- Mr. Speaker, most drugs right now are reduced our own staff by approxi- ican dream? Has big government, high the ones south of the border and are mately one-third. taxes, and excess of regulations and H10228 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 deficit spending, has it stolen or dimin- Mr. PASTOR (at the request of Mr. Mr. CLINGER. ished the American dream? GEPHARDT), for today, on account of Mr. HAYES. I think that it has. What this Con- business in the district. Mr. CRAPO. gress has tried to do is work for com- Mr. MCNULTY (at the request of Mr. Mr. GILLMOR. monsense reforms. We have tried to GEPHARDT), for today, on account of of- Mr. EDWARDS. balance the budget in a fair way. We ficial business. Mr. DUNCAN. have tried to put sanity back into our Mr. SCOTT (at the request of Mr. GEP- Mr. KILDEE. tax system, with such things as elimi- HARDT), for today, on account of per- Mr. OBEY. nating the marriage tax penalty. We sonal business. Mr. MATSUI. have tried to make government more f Mr. POSHARD. responsive and operate like a house- Mr. RAMSTAD. SPECIAL ORDERS GRANTED hold budget, rather than like some Mr. MOLLOHAN. kind of Santa Claus fantasy that we By unanimous consent, permission to Mr. DORNAN. can just tap into some instant money address the House, following the legis- Ms. DELAURO. machine somewhere, and the money lative program and any special orders Mrs. JOHNSON of Connecticut. just keeps flowing and flowing and heretofore entered, was granted to: Mrs. LOWEY. flowing. We have tried to do this, be- (The following Members (at the re- Mr. GIBBONS. cause balancing the budget is about quest of Mr. CHAMBLIS to revise and ex- Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. people. tend their remarks and include extra- Mr. BENTSEN. You know, an individual today owes neous material:) about $18,000 on the national debt. That Mr. OWENS. Mr. LUCAS, for 5 minutes, today, means a couple working to pay their Mr. FORBES in three instances. Mr. SMITH of Michigan, for 5 minutes, mortgage is having to pay a higher Mr. PORTMAN. today. mortgage rate because the interest Mr. MCINTOSH. Mr. MICA, for 5 minutes, today. rates are higher because the budget is (The following Members (at the re- f not balanced. That means a profes- sional woman pursuing a career, leas- quest of Mr. MONTGOMERY) to revise SENATE BILL REFERRED ing a car, has to pay higher payments, and extend their remarks and include on buying that car, has to pay higher extraneous material:) A bill of the Senate of the following interest rates on that, or the small Mr. WISE, for 5 minutes, today. title was taken from the Speaker’s business person. Mrs. MALONEY, for 5 minutes, today. table and, under the rule, referred as It also means that a small baby, like Mr. HINCHEY, for 5 minutes, today. follows: my nephew, Walker Watson, will have f S. 1662. An act to establish areas of wilder- to pay over $200,000 in interest over his EXTENSION OF REMARKS ness and recreation in the State of Oregon, lifetime just on the national debt and for other purposes; to the Committee on above and beyond State, local, and By unanimous consent, permission to Resources, and in addition to the Commit- Federal taxes. revise and extend remarks was granted tees on Agriculture and Commerce, for a pe- Balancing the budget is not about to: riod to be subsequently determined by the numbers, it is about people. It is not Mr. GIBBONS, and to include therein Speaker, in each case for consideration of just about people, it is about a future extraneous material, notwithstanding such provisions as fall within the jurisdic- tion of the committee concerned. of children in the American dream. I the fact that it exceeds two pages of think we can change the system. I the RECORD and is estimated by the f think we can restore sanity to Wash- Public Printer to cost $3,061. ington, Mr. Speaker. We have got to do (The following Members (at the re- ENROLLED BILLS SIGNED it in a bipartisan way, we have got to quest of Mr. MONTGOMERY) and to in- do it in a fair way, and we have got to clude extraneous matter:) Mr. THOMAS, from the Committee do it outside of Washington. We have Mr. HAMILTON. on House oversight, reported that that got to go home, every weekend, and Mr. TORRICELLI. committee had examined and found constantly talk to the American people Mr. SANDERS. truly enrolled bills of the House of the about this process, because it is some- Mr. LEVIN. following titles, which were thereupon thing that affects all of us. Mr. STOKES. signed by the Speaker: f Mr. STARK. H.R. 2428. An act to encourage the dona- Mr. DOYLE. tion of food and grocery products to non- LEAVE OF ABSENCE profit organizations for distribution to needy Mr. CLEMENT. By unanimous consent, leave of ab- individuals by giving the Model Good Samar- Mrs. MALONEY. itan Food Donation Act the full force and ef- sence was granted to: (The following Members (at the re- Mr. PORTMAN (at the request of Mr. fect of law. quest of Mr. CHAMBLISS) and to include H.R. 4018. An act to make technical correc- ARMEY), for today, on account of a extraneous matter:) tions in the Federal Oil and Gas Royalty death in the family. Mr. FIELDS of Texas. Management Act of 1992. Mr. RIGGS (at the request of Mr. Mr. BAKER of California. ARMEY), for today, on account of ill- f ness. Mr. DUNCAN. Mr. THORNBERRY. Mr. GANSKE (at the request of Mr. ADJOURNMENT ARMEY), for today and September 12, on Mr. SMITH of Michigan. account of illness. Mr. WALSH. Mr. KINGSTON. Mr. Speaker, I move Mr. HEINEMAN (at the request of Mr. Mr. STOCKMAN. that the House do now adjourn. ARMEY), for today and September 12, on Mr. SCHAEFER. The motion was agreed to; accord- account of illness. Mr. SOLOMON. ingly (at 7 o’clock and 45 minutes Mr. TORKILDSEN (at the request of (The following Members (at the re- p.m.), the House adjourned until to- Mr. ARMEY), for today, on account of quest of Mr. KINGSTON) and to include morrow, Thursday, September 12, 1996, official business. extraneous matter:) at 10 a.m. h

EXPENDITURE REPORTS CONCERNING FOREIGN TRAVEL Reports concerning the foreign currencies and U.S. dollars utilized by various committees, U.S. House of Representa- tives, during the 2d quarter of 1996 in connection with official foreign travel, pursuant to Public Law 95–384, as well as reports by various miscellaneous groups and individuals concerning expenditures in connection with official foreign travel authorized by the Speaker, U.S. House of Representatives, are as follows: September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10229 REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, COMMITTEE ON BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 1 AND JUNE 30, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

James McCormick ...... 5/21 5/25 Abidjan ...... 950.00 ...... 3,986.05 ...... 4,936.05 Sean Peterson ...... 5/20 5/25 Abidjan ...... 1,140.00 ...... 3,293.05 ...... 4,433.05 Committee total ...... 2,090.00 ...... 7,279.10 ...... 9,369.10 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. JAMES LEACH, Chairman, July 29, 1996.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 1 AND JUNE 30, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent or Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Paul Berkowitz ...... 4/9 4/13 Switzerland ...... 1,240.00 ...... 1,240.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,131.95 ...... 3,131.95 5/17 5/21 Taiwan ...... 798.00 ...... 798.00 Commercial airfare ...... 2,758.95 ...... 2,758.95 Debi Bodlander ...... 4/5 4/13 Israel ...... 3 2,714.00 ...... 2,714.00 Commercial airfare ...... 4,622.95 ...... 4,622.95 Elana Broitman ...... 4/19 4/20 Austria ...... 253.00 ...... 253.00 4/20 4/22 Hungary ...... 636.00 ...... 636.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,119.75 ...... 3,119.75 6/7 6/11 Nicaragua ...... 980.00 ...... 980.00 Commercial airfare ...... 1,382.95 ...... 1,382.95 Hon. Dan Burton ...... 4/7 4/9 Chile ...... 581.00 ...... (4) ...... 581.00 4/9 4/11 Argentina ...... 548.00 ...... (4) ...... 7,961.53 ...... 8,509.53 4/11 4/14 Brazil ...... 597.00 ...... (4) ...... 597.00 Phil Christenson ...... 4/1 4/11 South Africa ...... 1,922.00 ...... 1,922.00 4/11 4/12 Botswana ...... 80.00 ...... 80.00 4/12 4/15 South Africa ...... 218.00 ...... 218.00 Commercial airfare ...... 7,805.15 ...... 7,805.15 Karen Donfried ...... 4/7 4/9 Turkey ...... 3 216.00 ...... 216.00 4/9 4/13 Germany ...... 3 811.00 ...... 811.00 4/13 4/16 Belgium ...... 3 569.00 ...... 569.00 Commercial airfare ...... 4,381.55 ...... 4,381.55 Scott Feeney ...... 4/7 4/9 Chile ...... 581.00 ...... (4) ...... 581.00 4/9 4/11 Argentina ...... 548.00 ...... (4) ...... 548.00 4/11 4/14 Brazil ...... 597.00 ...... (4) ...... 597.00 Hon. Victor Frazer ...... 4/7 4/9 Chile ...... 581.00 ...... (4) ...... 581.00 4/9 4/11 Argentina ...... 548.00 ...... (4) ...... 548.00 4/11 4/14 Chile ...... 597.00 ...... (4) ...... 597.00 Richard Garon ...... 4/10 4/11 Croatia ...... 3 1,300.00 ...... 1,300.00 4/11 4/14 Bosnia ...... 4/14 4/15 Croatia ...... Commercial airfare ...... $2,300.95 ...... $2,300.95 Kristen Gilley ...... 4/4 4/11 South Africa ...... 3 1,216.00 ...... 1,216.00 4/11 4/12 Botswana ...... 80.00 ...... 80.00 4/12 4/14 South Africa ...... 3 572.00 ...... 572.00 Commercial airfare ...... 6,245.65 ...... 6,245.65 Christopher Hankin ...... 6/21 6/25 Germany ...... 950.00 ...... 950.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,284.25 ...... 3,284.25 Hon. Nancy Johnson ...... 4/7 4/9 Chile ...... 581.00 ...... (4) ...... 581.00 4/9 4/11 Argentina ...... 548.00 ...... (4) ...... 548.00 4/11 4/14 Brazil ...... 597.00 ...... (4) ...... 597.00 David Jung ...... 4/7 4/9 Turkey ...... 376.00 ...... 376.00 4/9 4/13 Germany ...... 999.00 ...... 999.00 4/13 4/16 Belgium ...... 1,016.00 ...... 1,016.00 Commercial airfare ...... 4,381.55 ...... 4,381.55 Gilead Kapen ...... 4/7 4/9 Chile ...... 581.00 ...... (4) ...... 581.00 4/9 4/11 Argentina ...... 548.00 ...... (4) ...... 548.00 4/11 4/14 Brazil ...... 597.00 ...... (4) ...... 597.00 Hon. Jay Kim ...... 4/3 4/4 Singapore ...... 355.97 ...... 355.97 4/4 4/8 Malaysia ...... 812.00 ...... 812.00 4/8 4/11 Philippines ...... 744.00 ...... 744.00 Commercial airfare ...... 1,761.00 ...... 1,761.00 Mark Kirk ...... 3/30 3/31 England ...... 3 48.00 ...... 48.00 3/31 4/4 Egypt ...... 3 762.00 ...... 762.00 4/4 4/9 South Africa ...... 3 1,040.00 ...... 1,040.00 4/9 4/15 Bosnia ...... 3 1,455.00 ...... 1,455.00 Commercial airfare ...... 6,071.25 ...... 6,071.25 6/7 6/12 Nicaragua ...... 1,225.00 ...... 1,225.00 Commercial airfare ...... 1,382.95 ...... 1,382.95 Christopher Kojm ...... 3/31 4/1 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... 212.00 4/1 4/3 Poland ...... 520.00 ...... 520.00 4/3 4/4 Czech Republic ...... 3 383.00 ...... 383.00 4/4 4/5 Slovakia ...... Commercial airfare ...... 3,834.85 ...... 3,834.85 Cliff Kupchan ...... 3/31 4/7 Morocco ...... 822.00 ...... 822.00 4/7 4/11 South Africa ...... 3 840.00 ...... 840.00 4/11 4/12 Bostswana ...... 80.00 ...... 80.00 Commercial airfare ...... 7,091.85 ...... 7,091.85 John Mackey ...... 4/19 4/20 Austria ...... 253.00 ...... 253.00 4/20 4/22 Hungary ...... 636.00 ...... 636.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,119.75 ...... 3,119.75 4/8 4/9 Mexico ...... 222.00 ...... (4) ...... 222.00 4/9 4/11 Panama ...... 278.00 ...... (4) ...... 278.00 4/11 4/13 Bolivia ...... 282.00 ...... (4) ...... 282.00 4/13 4/15 Peru ...... 504.00 ...... (4) ...... 504.00 Les Munson ...... 3/31 4/6 Morocco ...... 822.00 ...... 822.00 4/6 4/11 South Africa ...... 3 855.00 ...... 855.00 4/11 4/12 Botswana ...... 80.00 ...... 80.00 4/12 4/13 South Africa ...... 3 571.00 ...... 571.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,834.85 ...... 3,834.85 Cliff Kupchan ...... 3/31 4/7 Morocco ...... 3 822.00 ...... 822.00 4/7 4/11 South Africa ...... 3 840.00 ...... 840.00 4/11 4/12 Botswana ...... 80.00 ...... 80.00 Commercial airfare ...... 7,091.85 ...... 7,091.85 John Mackey ...... 4/19 4/20 Austria ...... 253.00 ...... 253.00 H10230 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 1 AND JUNE 30, 1996—Continued

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent or Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

4/20 4/22 Hungary ...... 636.00 ...... 636.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,119.75 ...... 3,119.75 4/8 4/9 Mexico ...... 222.00 ...... (4) ...... 222.00 4/9 4/11 Panama ...... 278.00 ...... (4) ...... 278.00 4/11 4/13 Bolivia ...... 282.00 ...... (4) ...... 282.00 4/13 4/15 Peru ...... 504.00 ...... (4) ...... 504.00 Les Munson ...... 3/31 4/6 Morocco ...... 822.00 ...... 822.00 4/6 4/11 South Africa ...... 3 855.00 ...... 855.00 4/11 4/12 Botswana ...... 80.00 ...... 80.00 4/12 4/13 South Africa ...... 3 571.00 ...... 571.00 Commercial airfare ...... 7,055.85 ...... 7,055.85 Ken Nelson ...... 4/25 4/27 Canada ...... 310.00 ...... 310.00 Commercial airfare ...... 388.00 ...... 388.00 Roger Noriega ...... 3/31 4/3 Haiti ...... 3 260.00 ...... 260.00 Commercial airfare ...... 642.95 ...... 642.95 4/25 4/27 Canada ...... 349.00 ...... 349.00 Commercial airfare ...... 388.00 ...... 388.00 5/31 6/3 Nicaragua ...... 150.00 ...... 150.00 Commercial airfare ...... 1,382.95 ...... 1,382.95 Steve Rademaker ...... 3/30 4/1 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... 212.00 4/1 4/3 Poland ...... 520.00 ...... 520.00 4/3 4/4 Czech Republic ...... 3 269.00 ...... 269.00 4/4 4/6 Slovakia ...... 388.00 ...... 388.00 4/6 4/9 Russia ...... 3 477.14 ...... 477.14 Commercial airfare ...... 4,271.35 ...... 4,271.35 Grover Joseph Rees ...... 6/7 6/9 Mexico ...... 371.66 ...... 371.66 Commercial airfare ...... 502.95 ...... 502.95 Dan Restrepo ...... 4/7 4/9 Chile ...... 581.00 ...... (4) ...... 581.00 4/9 4/11 Argentina ...... 548.00 ...... (4) ...... 548.00 4/11 4/14 Brazil ...... 597.00 ...... (4) ...... 597.00 Frank Record ...... 4/1 4/6 Morocco ...... 822.00 ...... 822.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,354.25 ...... 3,354.25 4/25 4/27 Canada ...... 3 300.00 ...... 300.00 Commercial airfare ...... 388.00 ...... 388.00 Walker Roberts ...... 3/30 4/1 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... 212.00 4/1 4/3 Poland ...... 520.00 ...... 520.00 4/3 4/4 Czech Republic ...... 3 463.00 ...... 463.00 4/4 4/5 Slovakia ...... Commercial airfare ...... 3,834.85 ...... 3,834.85 Hon. Charlie Rose ...... 5/23 5/25 Taiwan ...... Commercial airfare ...... 2,523.95 ...... 2,523.95 Hon. Toby Roth ...... 6/21 6/25 Germany ...... 950.00 ...... 950.00 Commercial airfare ...... 3,284.25 ...... 3,284.25 Mara Rudman ...... 3/31 4/4 Egypt ...... 3 550.24 ...... 550.24 4/4 4/9 Israel ...... 3 1,320.00 ...... 1,320.00 Commercial airfare ...... 4,756.25 ...... 4,756.25 Marty Sletzinger ...... 4/7 4/9 Turkey ...... 564.00 ...... 564.00 4/10 4/11 Croatia ...... 300.00 ...... 300.00 4/11 4/14 Bosnia ...... 0.00 ...... 0.00 4/14 4/15 Croatia ...... 0.00 ...... 0.00 Commercial airfare ...... 4,551.65 ...... 4,551.65 Hillel Weinberg ...... 4/7 4/9 Turkey ...... 276.00 ...... 46.20 ...... 322.20 4/9 4/13 Germany ...... 999.00 ...... 999.00 4/13 4/16 Belgium ...... 3 351.00 ...... 351.00 Commercial airfare ...... 4,381.55 ...... 4,381.55 David Weiner ...... 4/25 4/27 Canada ...... 3 314.58 ...... 314.58 Commercial airfare ...... 388.00 ...... 388.00 Hon. Al Wynn ...... 4/7 4/9 Chile ...... 581.00 ...... (4) ...... 581.00 4/9 4/11 Argentina ...... 548.00 ...... (4) ...... 548.00 4/11 4/14 Brazil ...... 597.00 ...... (4) ...... 597.00 Committee total ...... 54,078.59 ...... 108,772.10 ...... 8,007.73 ...... 170.858.42 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. 3 Represents refund of unused per diem. 4 Military air transportation. BEN GILMAN, Chairman, Aug. 9, 1996.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO ITALY, BOSNIA, CROATIA AND HUNGARY, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN FEB. 29 AND MAR. 4, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Sonny Callahan ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Hon. Charles Wilson ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Hon. Bob Stump ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Hon. Bob Dornan ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Hon. Esteban Torres ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Hon. Charles Taylor ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Hon. Richard Hastings ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Hon. Mac Thornberry ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Hon. Victor Frazer ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Hon. W. Livingood ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Charles Flickner ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Bill Inglee ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Brett O’Brien ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Mark Murray ...... 3/1 3/2 Italy ...... 200.00 ...... (3) ...... 200.00 Hon. Sonny Callahan ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 Hon. Charles Wilson ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 Hon. Bob Stump ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 Hon Bob Dornan ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 Hon. Esteban Torres ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 Hon. Charles Taylor ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 Hon. Richard Hastings ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 Hon. Mac Thornberry ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 Hon. Victor Frazer ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 Hon. W. Livingood ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10231 REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO ITALY, BOSNIA, CROATIA AND HUNGARY, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN FEB. 29 AND MAR. 4, 1996—Continued

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Charles Flickner ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 Bill Inglee ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 Brett O’Brien ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 Mark Murray ...... 3/2 3/3 Croatia ...... 280.00 ...... (3) ...... 280.00 Hon. Sonny Callahan ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Hon. Charles Wilson ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Hon. Bob Stump ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Hon. Bob Dornan ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Hon. Esteban Torres ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Hon. Charles Taylor ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Hon. Richard Hastings ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Hon. Mac Thornberry ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Hon. Victor Frazer ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Hon. W. Livingood ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Hon. Charles Flickner ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Hon. Bill Inglee ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Hon. Brett O’Brien ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Hon. Mark Murray ...... 3/3 3/4 Hungary ...... 212.00 ...... (3) ...... 212.00 Committee total ...... 9,688.00 ...... 9,688.00

1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. 3 Military air transportation. SONNY CALLAHAN, Apr. 1, 1996.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO THE NORTH ATLANTIC ASSEMBLY, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN MAY 16 AND MAY 21, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Doug Bereuter ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 Hon. Gerald Solomon ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 Hon. Sherwood Boehlert ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 Hon. Jan Meyers ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 Hon. Marge Roukema ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 Hon. Floyd Spence ...... 5/17 5/20 Greece ...... 823.50 ...... (3) ...... 823.50 Hon. Michael Bilirakis ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 Hon. Porter Goss ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 841.68 ...... (3) ...... 841.68 Hon. Toby Roth ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 Hon. Bobby Rush ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 Hon. Pat Schroeder ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 John Herzberg ...... 5/16 5/21 Greece ...... 1,441.13 ...... 1,271.00 ...... 2,712.13 Jo Weber ...... 5/16 5/21 Greece ...... 1,441.13 ...... 2,577.12 ...... 4,018.25 Michael Ennis ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 Chris Kojm ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 William Cox ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 Ronald W. Lasch ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 Linda Pedigo ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 Jim Doran ...... 5/17 5/21 Greece ...... 1,098.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,098.00 Committee total ...... 21,017.44 ...... 3,848.12 ...... 24,865.56 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. 3 Military air transportation. DOUGLAS BEREUTER, June 14, 1996.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO U.S.-RUSSIA JOINT COMMISSION ON POW–MIA AFFAIRS, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN MAY 25 AND JUNE 1, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Pete Peterson ...... 5/26 5/27 Germany ...... 240.00 ...... ( 3 ) ...... 240.00 5/27 5/29 Azerbaijan ...... 394.00 ...... ( 3 ) ...... 394.00 5/29 5/31 Georgia ...... 426.00 ...... ( 3 ) ...... 426.00 5/31 6/1 Germany ...... 240.00 ...... ( 3 ) ...... 240.00 Suzanne Farmer ...... 5/26 5/27 Germany ...... 240.00 ...... ( 3 ) ...... 240.00 5/27 5/29 Azerbaijan ...... 394.00 ...... ( 3 ) ...... 394.00 5/29 5/31 Georgia ...... 426.00 ...... ( 3 ) ...... 426.00 5/31 6/1 Germany ...... 240.00 ...... ( 3 ) ...... 240.00 Committee total ...... 2,600.00 ...... 2,600.00 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. 3 Military air transportation. PETE PETERSON, June 7, 1996.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO HUNGARY, BOSNIA, AND CROATIA, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN JUNE 21 AND JUNE 24, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. David L. Hobson ...... 6/21 6/23 Hungary ...... 324.00 ...... (3) ...... 324.00 H10232 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO HUNGARY, BOSNIA, AND CROATIA, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN JUNE 21 AND JUNE 24, 1996—Continued

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

6/22 6/22 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/23 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/24 Croatia ...... 230.00 ...... (3) ...... 230.00 Hon. Bill Barrett ...... 6/21 6/23 Hungary ...... 324.00 ...... (3) ...... 324.00 6/22 6/22 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/23 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/24 Croatia ...... 230.00 ...... (3) ...... 230.00 Hon. Joe Knollenberg ...... 6/21 6/23 Hungary ...... 324.00 ...... (3) ...... 324.00 6/22 6/22 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/23 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/24 Croatia ...... 230.00 ...... (3) ...... 230.00 Hon. Dan Miller ...... 6/21 6/23 Hungary ...... 324.00 ...... (3) ...... 324.00 6/22 6/22 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/23 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/24 Croatia ...... 230.00 ...... (3) ...... 230.00 Hon. Robert W. Ney ...... 6/21 6/23 Hungary ...... 324.00 ...... (3) ...... 324.00 6/22 6/22 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/23 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/24 Croatia ...... 230.00 ...... (3) ...... 230.00 Hon. Tom Bevill ...... 6/21 6/23 Hungary ...... 324.00 ...... (3) ...... 324.00 6/22 6/22 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/23 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/24 Croatia ...... 230.00 ...... (3) ...... 230.00 Hon. John S. Tanner ...... 6/21 6/23 Hungary ...... 324.00 ...... (3) ...... 324.00 6/22 6/22 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/23 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/24 Croatia ...... 230 ...... (3) ...... 230 Hon. Wilson Livingood ...... 6/21 6/23 Hungary ...... 324.00 ...... (3) ...... 324.00 6/22 6/22 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/23 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/24 Croatia ...... 230.00 ...... (3) ...... 230.00 Kenneth Kraft ...... 6/21 6/23 Hungary ...... 324.00 ...... (3) ...... 324.00 6/22 6/22 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/23 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/24 Croatia ...... 230.00 ...... 3 ...... 230.00 Brian Gunderson ...... 6/21 6/23 Hungary ...... 324.00 ...... (3) ...... 324.00 6/22 6/22 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/23 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/24 Croatia ...... 230.00 ...... (3) ...... 230.00 John Plashal ...... 6/21 6/23 Hungary ...... 324.00 ...... (3) ...... 324.00 6/22 6/22 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/23 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/24 Croatia ...... 230.00 ...... (3) ...... 230.00 R. Scott Lilly ...... 6/21 6/23 Hungary ...... 324.00 ...... (3) ...... 324.00 6/22 6/22 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/23 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/24 Croatia ...... 230.00 ...... (3) ...... 230.00 Dudley L. Tademy ...... 6/21 6/23 Hungary ...... 324.00 ...... (3) ...... 324.00 6/22 6/22 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/23 Bosnia ...... (3) ...... 6/23 6/24 Croatia ...... 230.00 ...... (3) ...... 230.00 Committee total ...... 7,202,000 ...... 7,202,000 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. 3 Military air transportation. DAVID L. HOBSON, July 17, 1996.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO A TRI-LATERAL FORUM, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN JUNE 28 AND JULY 2, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Amo Houghton ...... 6/28 7/2 United Kingdom ...... Hon. Clifford Stearns ...... 6/29 7/2 United Kingdom ...... 93.00 ...... 3,082.45 ...... 3,175.45 Hon. Charles Taylor ...... 6/29 7/2 United Kingdom ...... 93.00 ...... 3,082.45 ...... 3,175.45 Hon. Kika de la Garza ...... 6/29 7/2 United Kingdom ...... 93.00 ...... 3,082.45 ...... 3,175.45 Hon. James McDermott ...... 6/29 7/2 United Kingdom ...... 93.00 ...... 3,271.45 ...... 3,364.45 Robert Van Wicklin ...... 6/29 7/2 United Kingdom ...... 93.00 ...... 3,215.45 ...... 3,308.45 Julie Paradis ...... 6/29 7/2 United Kingdom ...... 93.00 ...... 3,082.45 ...... 3,175.45 Committee total ...... 558.00 ...... 18,816.70 ...... 19,374.70 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. AMO HOUGHTON, Aug. 2, 1996.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO OSCE PARLIAMENTARY ASSEMBLY, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN JULY 5 AND JULY 9, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Henry Hyde ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 (3) ...... 1,216.00 Hon. Patricia Schroeder ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 (3) ...... 1,216.00 Hon. Steny Hoyer ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 (3) ...... 1,216.00 Hon. Benjamin Cardin ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 (3) ...... 1,216.00 Hon. Louise McIntosh Slaughter ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 (3) ...... 1,216.00 Hon. Bob Clement ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 (3) ...... 1,216.00 Hon. Greg Laughlin ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 (3) ...... 1,216.00 Hon. Bill Brewster ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 (3) ...... 1,216.00 Hon. Pat Danner ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 (3) ...... 1,216.00 September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10233 REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, DELEGATION TO OSCE PARLIAMENTARY ASSEMBLY, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN JULY 5 AND JULY 9, 1996—Continued

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Karen Thurman ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,216.00 Hon. Alcee Hastings ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,216.00 Hon. Matt Salmon ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,216.00 Hon. Jesse L. Jackson ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,216.00 Hon. Samuel Wise ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,056.00 Hon. Ronald McNamara ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,216.00 Hon. Erika Schlager ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,171.89 Marlene Kaufmann ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 ...... (3) ...... 826.85 Michael Amitay ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 ...... (3) ...... 762.00 Mark Gage ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 ...... (3) ...... 984.00 Caroline Cooper ...... 7/5 7/9 Sweden ...... 1,216.00 ...... (3) ...... 973.47 Committee total ...... 23,866.00 ...... 22,798.21 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. 3 Military air transportation. HENRY HYDE, Aug. 2, 1996.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, MR. GARDNER PECKHAM, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN FEB. 12 AND FEB. 24, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Gardner Peckham ...... 2/12 2/14 Germany ...... 301.00 ...... 301.00 2/14 2/21 Bosnia ...... 1,288.00 ...... 1,288.00 2/21 2/22 Croatia ...... 228.00 ...... 228.00 2/22 2/24 Italy ...... 337.00 ...... 1,515.75 ...... 1,852.75 Committee total ...... 2,154.00 ...... 1,515.75 ...... 3,669.75 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. GARDNER G. PECKHAM, Mar. 18, 1996.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, MR. DAVID JOERGENSON, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN MAR. 31 AND APR. 14, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

David Joergenson ...... 3/31 4/2 Ecuador ...... 326.00 ...... (3) ...... 326.00 4/2 4/5 Chile ...... 848.00 ...... (3) ...... 848.00 4/5 4/8 Argentina ...... 822.00 ...... (3) ...... 822.00 4/8 4/14 Brazil ...... 1,383.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,383.00 Committee total ...... 3,379.00 ...... 3,379.00 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. 3 Military air transportation. JOHN D. JOERGENSON, May 14, 1996.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, MR. JASON LOVELL, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 7 AND APR. 14, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Jason Lovell ...... 4/7 4/9 Chile ...... 581.00 ...... 581.00 4/9 4/11 Argentina ...... 548.00 ...... 548.00 4/11 4/14 Brazil ...... 597.00 ...... 597.00 Committee total ...... 1,726.00 ...... 1,726.00 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. JASON LOVELL, Apr. 30, 1996.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, MS. ANDREA P. CAMP, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN MAR. 31 AND APR. 14, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Andrea P. Camp ...... 3/31 3/31 Panama ...... (3) ...... 3/31 4/2 Ecuador ...... 326.00 ...... (3) ...... 326.00 4/2 4/5 Chile ...... 848.00 ...... (3) ...... 848.00 4/5 4/8 Argentina ...... 822.00 ...... (3) ...... 822.00 4/8 4/14 Brazil ...... 1,383.00 ...... (3) ...... 1,383.00 Committee total ...... 3,379.00 ...... 3,379.00 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. 3 Military air transportation. ANDREA P. CAMP, May 14, 1996. H10234 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, MR. SAMUEL LANCASTER, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN APR. 8 AND APR. 15, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Samuel G. Lancaster ...... 4/8 4/9 Mexico ...... 221.75 ...... (3) ...... 221.75 4/9 4/11 Panama ...... 278.00 ...... (3) ...... 278.00 4/11 4/11 Colombia ...... (3) ...... 4/11 4/13 Bolivia ...... 282.00 ...... (3) ...... 282.00 4/13 4/15 Peoria ...... 504.00 ...... (3) ...... 504.00 Committee total ...... 1,285.75 ...... 1,285.75 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. 3 Military air transportation. SAMUEL LANCASTER, May 29, 1996.

REPORT OF EXPENDITURES FOR OFFICIAL FOREIGN TRAVEL, HONORABLE GREG LAUGHLIN, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, EXPENDED BETWEEN MAY 8 AND MAY 14, 1996

Date Per diem 1 Transportation Other purposes Total U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar U.S. dollar Name of Member or employee Country Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Foreign equivalent Arrival Departure currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency or U.S. currency 2 currency 2 currency 2 currency 2

Hon. Greg Laughlin ...... 5/8 5/14 Russia ...... 100.00 ...... 3,280.95 ...... 306.00 ...... 3,686.95 Committee total ...... 100.00 ...... 3,280.95 ...... 306.00 ...... 3,686.95 1 Per diem constitutes lodging and meals. 2 If foreign currency is used, enter U.S. dollar equivalent; if U.S. currency is used, enter amount expended. h GREG LAUGHLIN, May 30, 1996.

EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS, peals for the District of Columbia Circuit of a major military equipment with Sweden ETC. (92–3133—United States of America versus (Transmittal No. DTC–40–96), pursuant to 22 Rochell Ardall Crowder); to the Committee U.S.C. 2776(d); to the Committee on Inter- Under clause 2 of rule XXIV, execu- on the Judiciary. national Relations. tive communications were taken from [Submitted September 11, 1996] the Speaker’s table and referred as fol- 5071. A letter from the Assistant Secretary 5065. A letter from the Director, Office of for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, lows: Regulatory Management and Information, transmitting notification of a proposed li- [Omitted from the Record of September 10, 1996] Environmental Protection Agency, transmit- cense for the export of defense articles or de- 4939. A letter from the Secretary of En- ting the Agency’s ‘‘Major’’ final rule—Con- fense services sold commercially to the Unit- ergy, transmitting the Department’s 34th trol of Air Pollution; Final Rule for New ed Kingdom (Transmittal No. DTC–31–96), quarterly report to Congress on the status of Gasoline Spark-Ignition Marine Engines; Ex- pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 2776(c); to the Commit- Exxon and stripper well oil overcharge funds emptions for New Nonroad Compression-Ig- tee on International Relations. as of March 31, 1996; to the Committee on nition Engines At or Above 37 Kilowatts and 5072. A letter from the Assistant Secretary Commerce. New Nonroad Spark-Ignition Engines At or for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, 4940. A letter from the U.S. Court of Ap- Below 19 Kilowatts [FRL–5548–8] received transmitting notification of a proposed li- peals, District of Columbia Circuit, trans- September 10, 1996, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. cense for the export of defense articles or de- mitting an opinion of the U.S. Court of Ap- 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on Commerce. fense services sold commercially to the Unit- peals for the District of Columbia Circuit 5066. A letter from the Managing Director, ed Kingdom (Transmittal No. DTC–38–96), (94–1558—Engine Manufacturers Association, Federal Communications Commission, trans- pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 2776(c); to the Commit- on Behalf of Certain of Its Members versus mitting the Commission’s final rule— tee on International Relations. Environmental Protection Agency); to the Amendment of Section 73.202(b), Table of Al- Committee on Commerce. lotments, FM Broadcast Stations (Las 5073. A letter from the Assistant Secretary 4964. A letter from the Assistant Secretary Vegas, New Mexico) [MM Docket No. 95–161] for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, for Employment Standards, Department of received September 11, 1996, pursuant to 5 transmitting notification of a proposed li- Labor, transmitting the Department’s rule— U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on cense for the export of defense articles or de- Affirmative Action and Nondiscrimination Commerce. fense services sold commercially to United Obligations of Contractors and Subcontrac- 5067. A letter from the Acting Director, De- Kingdom (Transmittal No. DTC–54–96), pur- tors Regarding Individuals with Disabilities, fense Security Assistance Agency, transmit- suant to 22 U.S.C. 2776(c); to the Committee Disabled Veterans and Veterans of the Viet- ting notification concerning the Department on International Relations. nam Era; Approval of Information Collection of the Navy’s proposed Letter(s) of Offer and 5074. A letter form the Assistant Secretary Requirements and OMB Control Numbers Acceptance [LOA] to Brunei for defense arti- for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, (RIN: 1215–AA62, 1215–AA76) received August cles and services (Transmittal No. 96–63), transmitting notification of a proposed issu- 27, 1996, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 2776(b); to the Commit- ance of export license agreement for the the Committee on Government Reform and tee on International Relations. temporary export of defense articles or de- Oversight. 5068. A letter from the Acting Director, De- fense services sold commercially to 4972. A letter from the U.S. Court of Ap- fense Security Assistance Agency, transmit- Kazakhstan (Transmittal No. DTC–49–96), peals, District of Columbia Circuit, trans- ting notification concerning the Department pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 2776(c); to the Commit- mitting an opinion of the U.S. Court of Ap- of the Air Force’s proposed Letter(s) of Offer tee on International Relations. peals for the District of Columbia Circuit and Acceptance [LOA] to Turkey for defense 5075. A letter from the Assistant Secretary (95–5057—Scott Armstrong, et al. versus Ex- articles and services (Transmittal No. 96–64), for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, ecutive Office of the President); to the Com- pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 2776(b); to the Commit- transmitting notification of a proposed li- mittee on Government Reform and Over- tee on International Relations. cense for the export of defense articles or de- sight. 5069. A letter from the Assistant Secretary 4974. A letter from the Director, Financial for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, fense services sold commercially to Norway Services, Library of Congress, transmitting transmitting notification of a proposed man- (Transmittal No. DTC–55–96), pursuant to 22 the activities of the Capitol preservation ufacturing license agreement for production U.S.C. 2776(c); to the Committee on Inter- fund for the first 9 months of fiscal year 1996, of major military equipment with Sweden national Relations. which ended on June 30, 1996, and comparable (Transmittal No. DTC–41–96), pursuant to 22 2076. A letter from the Assistant Secretary data for the same period of the previous fis- U.S.C. 2776(d); to the Committee on Inter- for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, cal year; to the Committee on House Over- national Relations. transmitting notification of a proposed issu- sight. 5070. A letter from the Assistant Secretary ance of export license agreement for the 5000. A letter from the U.S. Court of Ap- for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, temporary export of defense articles or de- peals, District of Columbia Circuit, trans- transmitting notification of a proposed man- fense services sold commercially to the De- mitting an opinion of the U.S. Court of Ap- ufacturing license agreement for production partment of National Defense, Government September 11, 1996 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H10235 of Malaysia (Transmittal No. DTC–45–96), FUNDERBURK, Mr. HEINEMAN, Mr. By Ms. LOFGREN: pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 23776(c); to the Com- HEFNER, Mr. WATT of North Carolina, H.R. 4055. A bill to require initial intake mittee on International Relations. Mr. COBLE, Mr. BURR, Mr. HOYER, Mr. screenings and the use of youth development 5077. A letter from the Assistant Secretary BLILEY, Mr. DAVIS, Mr. PAYNE of Vir- specialists in Federal juvenile proceedings, for Legislative Affairs, Department of State, ginia, Mr. SISISKY, Mr. WOLF, Mr. and to encourage States and local govern- transmitting notification of a proposed li- CLYBURN, Mr. SPRATT, Mr. WISE, Mr. ments to use similar procedures; to the Com- cense for the export of defense articles or de- CUMMINGS, Mrs. MORELLA, and Mr. mittee on the Judiciary, and in addition to fense services sold commercially to the Unit- WYNN): the Committee on Economic and Edu- ed Kingdom (Transmittal No. DTC–43–96), H.R. 4046. A bill to make emergency sup- cational Opportunities, for a period to be pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 2776(c); to the Commit- plemental appropriations for fiscal year 1996 subsequently determined by the Speaker, in tee on International Relations. to provide relief from the damages caused by each case for consideration of such provi- 5078. A letter from the Assistant Legal Ad- Hurricane Fran and other natural disasters sions as fall within the jurisdiction of the viser for Treaty Affairs, Department of of 1996; to the Committee on Appropriations. committee concerned. State, transmitting copies of international By Mrs. JOHNSON of Connecticut (for By Mrs. MINK of Hawaii: agreements, other than treaties, entered into herself, Mr. DINGELL, Mr. GREEN- H.R. 4056. A bill to amend the Immigration by the United States, pursuant to 1 U.S.C. WOOD, Mr. STARK, Mr. SHAW, Mr. and Nationality Act to provide for less re- 112b(a); to the Committee on International CARDIN, Mr. SAXTON, Mr. PALLONE, strictive standards for naturalization as a Relations. Mr. DEFAZIO, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. citizen of the United States for certain cat- 5079. A letter from the FOIA Officer and KLECZKA, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. egories of persons; to the Committee on the General Counsel, Federal Mediation and Con- MATSUI, Mr. DURBIN, Mr. RAHALL, Mr. Judiciary. ciliation Service, transmitting a copy of the ACKERMAN, Mr. ANDREWS, and Mr. By Mr. QUILLEN: annual report in compliance with Govern- HILLIARD): H.R. 4057. A bill to suspend temporarily the ment in the Sunshine Act during the cal- H.R. 4047. A bill to amend title XVIII of the duty on the chemical DEMT; to the Commit- endar year 1995, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 552b(j); Social Security Act to provide additional tee on Ways and Means. to the Committee on Government Reform consumer protections for Medicare supple- By Mrs. ROUKEMA (for herself, Mr. mental insurance; to the Committee on Com- and Oversight. DEFAZIO, Mr. WISE, Mrs. JOHNSON of merce. 5080. A letter from the Secretary, Securi- Connecticut, Mrs. MORELLA, Ms. NOR- By Mr. BAKER of California (for him- ties and Exchange Commission, transmitting TON, Ms. KAPTUR, Mr. MCCOLLUM, Mr. self, Mr. RIGGS, Mrs. SEASTRAND, Mr. a correction to the Commission’s annual re- KASICH, AND Mr. HUTCHINSON): RADANOVICH, Mr. HORN, Mr. DREIER, port submitted June 12, 1996; to the Commit- H.R. 4058. A bill to provide for parity for tee on Government Reform and Oversight. Mr. KIM, and Mr. CALVERT): H.R. 4048. A bill to enhance California’s mental health benefits under group health 5081. A letter from the Acting Director, Of- habitat, water quality, and water supply; to plans; to the Committee on Commerce, and fice of Sustainable Fisheries, National Ma- the Committee on Transportation and Infra- in addition to the Committees on Economic rine Fisheries Service, transmitting the structure, and in addition to the Committee and Educational Opportunities, and Govern- Service’s final rule—Fisheries Off the West on Resources, for a period to be subsequently ment Reform and Oversight, for a period to Coast States and in the Western Pacific; Pa- determined by the Speaker, in each case for be subsequently determined by the Speaker, cific Coast Groundfish Fishery; Trip Limit consideration of such provisions as fall with- in each case for consideration of such provi- Reductions [Docket No. 951227306–5306–01; I.D. in the jurisdiction of the committee con- sions as fall within the jurisdiction of the 082996C] received September 11, 1996, pursu- cerned. committee concerned. ant to 5 U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee By Mr. GILLMOR: By Mrs. SEASTRAND: on Resources. H.R. 4049. A bill to permit States to pro- H.R. 4059. A bill to provide for the acquisi- 5082. A letter from the Director, Federal hibit the disposal of solid waste imported tion of certain property on Santa Cruz Is- Bureau of Prisons, transmitting the Bureau’s from other nations; to the Committee on land; to the Committee on Resources. final rule—Editorial Amendments for Classi- Commerce. By Mr. SOLOMON (for himself, Mr. fication and Program Review; Inmate Dis- By Mr. GIBBONS: STUMP, Mr. WATTS of Oklahoma, and cipline; Education, Training, and Leisure H.R. 4050. A bill to amend the Internal Rev- Mr. LONGLEY): Time Program Standards; and Release Gra- enue Code of 1986 to replace the current indi- H.R. 4060. A bill to establish the Commis- tuities [BOP–1057–F] (RIN: 1120–AA56) re- vidual and corporate income taxes, and the sion on the Future for America’s Veterans; ceived September 11, 1996, pursuant to 5 Social Security and Medicare taxes, with a to the Committee on Veterans’ Affairs, and U.S.C. 801(a)(1)(A); to the Committee on the value-added tax; to the Committee on Ways in addition to the Committees on Rules, and Judiciary. and Means. National Security, for a period to be subse- 5083. A letter from the Assistant Secretary By Mr. KLECZKA (for himself and Mr. quently determined by the Speaker, in each of the Army (Civil Works), Department of KLUG): case for consideration of such provisions as the Army, transmitting a draft of proposed H.R. 4051. A bill to waive temporarily the fall within the jurisdiction of the committee legislation to modify the existing authoriza- Medicaid enrollment composition rule for concerned. tion for flood damage reduction at Cape Managed Health Services of Wisconsin; to By Mr. TALENT: Girardeau—Jackson Metropolitan Area, MO, the Committee on Commerce. H.R. 4061. A bill to provide for the estab- to authorize the Secretary of the Army to By Mr. KLECZKA (for himself and Mr. lishment of uniform accounting systems, construct the project at a total cost of STARK): standards, and reporting systems in the Fed- $42,776,000; to the Committee on Transpor- H.R. 4052. A bill to amend the Internal Rev- eral Government, and for other purposes; to enue Code of 1986 to assure continued health tation and Infrastructure. the Committee on Government Reform and insurance coverage of retired workers; to the 5084. A letter from the Assistant Secretary Oversight. Committee on Ways and Means, and in addi- of the Army (Civil Works), Department of By Mr. SOLOMON (for himself and Mr. tion to the Committees on Economic and the Army, transmitting a draft of proposed GILMAN): Educational Opportunities, and Commerce, legislation to modify the project for deep- H. Con. Res. 212. Concurrent resolution en- for a period to be subsequently determined draft navigation at San Juan Harbor, PR, to dorsing the adoption by the European Par- by the Speaker, in each case for consider- authorize the Secretary of the Army to con- liament of a resolution supporting the Re- ation of such provisions as fall within the ju- struct the project at a total cost of public of China on Taiwan’s efforts at joining risdiction of the committee concerned. $45,085,000; to the Committee on Transpor- the community of nations; to the Committee tation and Infrastructure. By Mr. LAHOOD: H.R. 4053. A bill to impose temporarily a on International Relations. 5085. A letter from the Chairman, Railroad 25-percent duty on imports of wheat gluten By Ms. MILLENDER-MCDONALD: Retirement Board, transmitting the results and to require the administering authority H. Res. 518. Resolution to establish a select of a determination of the Railroad Retire- to initiate an investigation under title VII of committee to investigate CIA involvement ment Account’s ability to pay benefits in the Tariff Act of 1930 with respect to wheat in the financing, distribution, and promulga- each of the next 5 years, pursuant to 45 gluten; to the Committee on Ways and tion of crack cocaine and the use of any pro- U.S.C. 231u(a)(1); jointly, to the Committees Means. ceeds to support the Contras; to the Commit- on Commerce and Ways and Means. By Mr. LIGHTFOOT: tee on Rules. f H.R. 4054. A bill to provide relief to agri- By Mr. SOLOMON: cultural producers who granted easements H. Res. 519. Resolution to amend House PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS to, or owned or operated land condemned by, Rules to require the random drug testing of Under clause 5 of rule X and clause 4 the Secretary of the Army for flooding losses Members, officers, and employees of the of rule XXII, public bills and resolu- caused by water retention at the dam site at House; to the Committee on Rules. Lake Redrock, IA, to the extent that the ac- By Ms. WATERS: tions were introduced and severally re- tual losses exceed the estimates of the Sec- H. Res. 520. Resolution to establish a select ferred as follows: retary, and for other purposes; to the Com- committee to investigate CIA involvement By Mrs. CLAYTON (for herself, Mr. mittee on Transportation and Infrastruc- in crack cocaine sales to fund Contras; to the ROSE, Mr. JONES, Mr. BALLENGER, Mr. ture. Committee on Rules. H10236 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 11, 1996 MEMORIALS ROBERTS, Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN, Mr. LEWIS of H.R. 3745: Mr. TALENT. Kentucky, Mr. BALDACCI, Mr. CASTLE, Mr. Under clause 4 of rule XXII, H.R. 3752: Mrs. SMITH of Washington. CHRISTENSEN, Mr. REED, Mr. MARTINEZ, and H.R. 3905: Mr. WELLER. 242. The SPEAKER presented a memorial Mr. BENTSEN. of the General Assembly of the Common- H.R. 3923: Mr. TRAFICANT, Mr. CLINGER, H.R. 3002: Mr. WICKER. Mrs. MEEK of Florida, Mr. COBLE, Mr. FROST, wealth of Kentucky, relative to Senate Joint LAUGHTER RAMER H.R. 3077: Ms. S and Mr. C . Mr. EHRLICH, Mr. KENNEDY of Rhode Island, Resolution No. 50, postratifying the 27th ar- H.R. 3142: Ms. PRYCE and Mr. INGLIS of Mr. COSTELLO, Mr. MCDADE, Mrs. ticle of amendment to the Constitution of South Carolina. SEASTRAND, Mr. BALDACCI, Mr. PETE GEREN the United States of America deferring any H.R. 3178: Mr. ABERCROMBIE. of Texas, and Mr. GREENWOOD. variations in the compensation of Members H.R. 3207: Ms. SLAUGHTER and Mr. ACKER- H.R. 3927: Mr. WAXMAN, Mr. MORAN, Mr. of the U.S. Congress until an election of U.S. MAN. KLUG, Mr. FAZIO of California, Mr. DELLUMS, Representatives shall have intervened; to the H.R. 3221: Mr. ACKERMAN, Mr. GUTIERREZ, Mr. LIPINSKI, and Mr. MATSUI. Committee on the Judiciary. Ms. VELA´ ZQUEZ, Mr. FIELDS of Louisiana, and H.R. 3928: Mr. DELLUMS. f Mr. BROWN of California. H.R. 3226: Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. ANDREWS, H.R. 3963: Mr. BLUTE, Mr. HORN, Mr. BARR, ADDITIONAL SPONSORS Mr. CONYERS, Mr. BOEHLERT, Mr. STARK, Mr. and Mr. BALDACCI. Under clause 4 of rule XXII, sponsors BAKER of Louisiana, Mr. SAXTON, Mr. VENTO, H.R. 4000: Mr. MANTON, Mr. VENTO, Mr. were added to public bills and resolu- and Mr. LONGLEY. GEJDENSON, Mr. BEVILL, Mr. BAESLER, Mr. KLECZKA, Mr. CLEMENT, Mr. BROWN of Ohio, tions as follows: H.R. 3307: Mr. PARKER, Mr. BREWSTER, Mr. PETERSON of Minnesota, Mr. HALL of Texas, and Mr. FROST. H.R. 65: Mr. LEACH. Mr. SISISKY, Mr. CONDIT, and Mr. PETE H.R. 4011: Mr. CAMP and Mr. MANZULLO. H.R. 72: Mrs. FOWLER and Mr. STEARNS. GEREN of Texas. H.J. Res. 191: Mr. HASTERT, Mr. LIPINSKI, H.R. 103: Mr. METCALF. H.R. 3337: Ms. SLAUGHTER. and Mr. NETHERCUTT. H.R. 210: Mr. COX. H.R. 3348: Ms. NORTON. H.R. 1023: Mr. KINGSTON. H. Con. Res. 63: Mr. BALDACCI and Mr. H.R. 3401: Mr. TORRICELLI, Mr. LATHAM, and H.R. 1090: Mr. SAXTON. STUMP. WENS H.R. 1363: Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. O . H. Con. Res. 135: Mr. WILLIAMS, Ms. PELOSI, H.R. 1386: Mr. FRANKS of Connecticut and H.R. 3430: Mr. CANADY, Mr. SAWYER, Ms. Mrs. LOWEY, and Mr. DAVIS. PRYCE, Mr. JOHNSON of South Dakota, Mr. Mr. MCCOLLUM. H. Con. Res. 176: Mr. DAVIS, Mr. COBURN, OXLEY, Mr. LUCAS, and Mr. CAMPBELL. H.R. 1402: Mr. STOKES and Mr. BROWN of Mr. LIPINSKI, Mr. SKEEN, Mr. BLUTE, Mr. H.R. 3511: Mr. DELLUMS, Mr. ROMERO- Ohio. WATTS of Oklahoma, Mr. PETE GEREN of BARCELO´ , and Mr. YATES. H.R. 1998: Mr. BACHUS, Mr. NEY, and Ms. Texas, Mr. CAMP, Mr. CAMPBELL, and Mrs. H.R. 3584: Mr. MANTON. PRYCE. MORELLA. H.R. 3590: Ms. SLAUGHTER, Ms. NORTON, Ms. H.R. 2084: Mr. NADLER. H. Con. Res. 180: Mr. MANTON, Mr. FOX, and H.R. 2085: Mr. NADLER. FURSE, and Mr. MATSUI. Mr. HOBSON. H.R. 2089: Mr. ROHRABACHER and Mr. H.R. 3646: Mr. DELLUMS. H. Con. Res. 199: Ms. SLAUGHTER, Mr. SKEEN. H.R. 3654: Mr. TAUZIN, Mr. FATTAH, Mr. BALDACCI, and Mrs. MALONEY. H.R. 2247: Ms. ESHOO. CLEMENT, Mr. GEJDENSON, and Ms. H.R. 2508: Mr. HAYWORTH and Ms. MCCAR- VELA´ ZQUEZ. H. Res. 478: Mr. JACOBS, Mr. MATSUI, Mr. THY. H.R. 3678: Mr. COLEMAN. LUCAS, and Mr. CLEMENT. H.R. 2531: Mr. PETE GEREN of Texas and H.R. 3714: Mr. MATSUI, Ms. SLAUGHTER, Mr. H. Res. 486: Mr. HOSTETTLER, Mr. BARTLETT Mr. DICKEY. CONDIT, Mr. COLEMAN, Mr. HALL of Ohio, Ms. of Maryland, Mr. DORNAN, Mr. FIELDS of H.R. 2535: Mr. BARR. FURSE, and Mr. RAHALL. Texas, and Mr. BAKER of California. H.R. 2900: Mr. MICA, Mr. OBERSTAR, Mr. PE- H.R. 3727: Mr. BROWN of California, Mr. H. Res. 510: Mr. STOCKMAN, Ms. GREENE of TERSON of Minnesota, Mr. BEREUTER, Mr. DELLUMS, Mrs. MORELLA, and Mr. MANZULLO. Utah, and Mr. ENGLISH of Pennsylvania.