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Tech Suit Survey Comments Tech Suit Survey Comments There was some minor editing to remove identifying information, and to fix a few errors in spelling/grammar. The comments are grouped according to the respondent’s answer to the first question, “should technical suits be allowed in SCY meets?” Comments from respondents who voted to allow the suits Allowing the suits for SCY meets gives swimmers the opportunity to get some utility out of their investment. I'd suggest a phase out date based on manufacture's production/availability. Being an older swimmer the long technical suits with zipper are much more comfortable than the knee length. After going to the toilet, I literally cannot pull the present legal suit up. I have to go back to a short practice suit to compete. I think that we should be able to wear anything we want for SCY meets. I only started swimming as an adult and am not fast enough to realize much of an advantage from these suits. I am not nearly as fast as my peers, so I tend to swim in meets against myself, trying to beat my personal bests. I don't think I will ever convince myself to buy one of these suits, but I don't see why that should not be a personal choice. We're all adults and we should be able to decide for ourselves whether or not we want to use a tech suit. I personally would never compete in a tech suit, but it's always good for a chuckle to see an old fat guy wearing one. I really would like the long suit. I would suggest a compromise, let the men use farmer john to the knee suits, with a zippered back. We do not need the LZR or blue seventy, the older Speedo were just fine. If the women can have neck‐to‐knee suits, so should the men, period. It doesn't matter to me either way. I have no problem allowing suits of any kind either in yards or meters. Just look at how many previous Olympians competed at Atlanta because they could again wear their tech‐suits. It does make a difference in how one swims and since SCY is a United States phenomenon (no FINA involvement) then the question is 'Why not allow us to wear them?' Masters competition needs fewer prohibitions / restrictions, rather than more, to encourage participation. My issue with the suits is expense, @ several 100$ a pop these suits disenfranchised young swimmers of less financial means. At the masters level this is not problem, so I feel suits should be allowed here, as long as times in the SUITS do not count outside USMS. The objective is to get people swimming! Only bar the full body suits in national competitions. The majority of us just swim. We do not get hung up on times or could not compete on a national scale anyway. The SCY record book has already seen ‐ to the extreme ‐ the effects of the high‐tech suits over the past few years. The 'contamination' if you will has already occurred. Since SCY is not a FINA‐recognized course, there's no downside politically to restricting use of the FINA‐banned suits to that course. Comments from respondents who voted against allowing the suits Allowing the tech suits for yards would require those of us who also swim meters to invest in two sets of competition suits, instead of a single suit for that we could use for both yards and meters. At a time when non‐tech suits cost well more than $200, I can only imagine the cost of tech suits for a small market such as Masters. Before the ban, tech suits were well over $400 and more. With a small market, prices would soar. US Masters should not adopt a return to such suits which would only discourage swimmers from competing. In addition, those who advocate a return to the suits should just get over it and understand that their times are unlikely to ever return to the times of their youth. Our performances should be judged on a comparable basis to all other competitive swimmers in the world ‐‐ those who are limited to non‐tech suits. Ban them. Quit making exceptions. Thanks for doing all this. I don't know much about the suits. It seems like we should follow what the younger swimmers are allowed to do. We certainly don't need to have advantages that they don't get. Do not 'make up' new rules. Follow FINA's lead. Put swimming on an even field for everyone, not just the elite who can afford a new $400 plus suit every year. Let's remember what swimming is all about. USS is not changing the rules to suit them! Don't make things complicated. Stick with the FINA rules. Down with the 'Tech suits!' For what reason is this even considered? Tech suits give a distinct advantage to the 'serious' competitors because of their cost, among other things. It seems to me that 'recreational competitors are more likely to participate in short course meets than in others. Let's encourage them by making the opportunity as open as possible without loading in favor of the select swimmers. Good riddance! Great survey. We need to be on the same page with USS and FINA. As much good as they did for me, they have caused more problems than they are worth! And they are worth a lot! (cost prohibitive for many swimmers). I am generally not in favor of allowing competitors to use 'advanced technology' fabric suites, which may provide a competitive advantage and that may not be reasonably available to all competitors. Let's keep things simple and on a level playing field. I am inalterably opposed to the continued use of technical suits of any kind (that includes wetsuits). I swam the Chesapeake Bay Swim (4.4) three times, once in 64 degree water without a wetsuit. Technical suits demean the sport, providing an artificial aid to the swimmer and skewing the competition. FINA, finally, has banned the use of these suits, and I think Masters Swimming needs to stay in line. I am also a high school coach and write for Swimming World Magazine among other aquatic publications. I see zero benefit for the sport to going back to technical suits. Please enlighten the convention that tech suits no longer have a place in the sport. I believe the tech suits are a huge benefit to swimmers, but do not portray the true amount of talent or hard work. If everyone were to have access to the suits, then maybe the playing field would be level. However, I think only a couple individuals will have access to them and it is clear to me, through past events with the tech suits, that they make the playing field unequal. The fact that swimming is based on talent, hard work and heart are some of its greatest assets. Tech suits would wreak havoc on that. I do mostly open water swimming and triathlons. 'Technical suits' have been rampant in triathlon this summer because they are still legal and many triathletes are trying to get all the advantage they can. Swimming and triathlon need to level the playing field and allow swimming to return to the sport it once was. I think all technical suits should be banned in competition. I don't like the thought of losing a race to a swimmer that I would normally beat, because he spent $200+ on a tech suit and I didn't. I don't think a product that makes you artificially faster should be allowed, thus the FINA ruling, plus mainly those willing to dish out a lot of money have the suit and not those swimmers across the board. I feel although advances in technology in athletics are inevitable, I don't feel it should be allowed. Either way, I still love Masters swimming. Even though it does take away from my swim placement at meets, I compete to beat my own time. So if I wear the tech suits, I will not get real results. I feel there should be consistency across all meets regardless of distance. Why would SCY need an exception? I feel we need to be consistent with the FINA ruling to preserve the integrity of our organization. If the LMSC in question desires to wear the 'suits' I would suggest for them to sponser and host a non‐USMS sanctioned meet and swim away...maybe I can wear my wetsuit! I gave away my $400 tech suit because it was 'finished', NOW they want to bring them back? How frustrating! I am adamantly against the return of the tech suit. I guess I prefer a level playing field and don't want to have to spend 100's of dollars on a suit to be on the same field as everyone else. I'd still train, compete, enjoy meets but it seems the amount of money you can spend doing this just gets out of control. I have used the suits in the past & I agree that they are faster. At the long course in P.R. I felt like I had been liberated, I felt free from $ costs & loved the level playing field. I just think it is best to be in compliance with FINA guidelines. I see no point in allowing them any more than allowing wetsuits or fins. They artificially improve your times. Their use depends more on your pocketbook than your skill.
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