H 8194 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 Ballenger Funderburk Miller (CA) Walker Weldon (PA) Wise quest of the gentleman from New Barcia Furse Miller (FL) Walsh Weller Wolf York? Barr Gallegly Minge Wamp White Wynn Barrett (NE) Ganske Molinari Ward Whitfield Young (FL) Mr. DOGGETT. Mr. Speaker, reserv- Barrett (WI) Gekas Mollohan Watts (OK) Wicker Zeliff ing the right to object. It is my under- Bartlett Gephardt Montgomery Weldon (FL) Wilson standing we have been consulted and Barton Geren Moorhead NAYS—104 Bass Gilchrest Moran that there is no objection from our Bereuter Gillmor Murtha Abercrombie Gilman Orton side, with the exception of the Commit- Berman Gonzalez Myers Andrews Gordon Owens tee on Resources, and I believe the gen- Bevill Goodlatte Myrick Becerra Green Pastor tleman from New York has taken them Bilirakis Goodling Nethercutt Beilenson Gunderson Pelosi Bishop Goss Neumann Bentsen Gutierrez Petri off the list, since there was objection. Bliley Graham Ney Bilbray Hall (OH) Rahall Mr. SOLOMON. If the gentleman will Blute Greenwood Norwood Boehlert Hastings (FL) Ramstad yield, their name is removed from the Boehner Gutknecht Nussle Brown (CA) Hayes Reed Brown (FL) Hilliard list. Bonilla Hall (TX) Obey Riggs Mr. DOGGETT. Mr. Speaker, I salute Bonior Hamilton Ortiz Bryant (TX) Houghton Rose Bono Hancock Oxley Cardin Johnson (CT) Roukema the gentleman for doing that and I Borski Hansen Packard Castle Johnston Roybal-Allard withdraw my reservation of objection. Boucher Harman Pallone Chapman Kennedy (MA) Schroeder Clayton Kennedy (RI) The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there Brewster Hastert Parker Scott Clyburn Kennelly objection to the request of the gen- Browder Hastings (WA) Paxon Serrano Coleman Kleczka Brown (OH) Hayworth Payne (NJ) Shaw tleman from New York? Collins (IL) Klink Brownback Hefley Payne (VA) Skaggs There was no objection. Conyers LaFalce Bryant (TN) Hefner Peterson (FL) Slaughter Bunn Heineman Peterson (MN) Crane Lincoln f DeLauro Lowey Stark Bunning Herger Pickett Studds Burr Hilleary Pombo Dellums Luther DEPARTMENTS OF LABOR, Deutsch Maloney Thomas Burton Hinchey Pomeroy Thompson HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, Buyer Hobson Porter Doggett Markey Durbin Martinez Torkildsen AND EDUCATION, AND RELATED Callahan Hoekstra Portman Upton Calvert Hoke Poshard Engel McDermott AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS Evans McKinney Velazquez Camp Holden Pryce ACT, 1996 Farr Meehan Vento Canady Horn Quillen Fields (LA) Meyers Waters The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Chabot Hostettler Quinn Filner Mineta Watt (NC) Chambliss Hoyer Radanovich DICKEY). Pursuant to House Resolution Ford Mink Waxman Chenoweth Hunter Rangel 208 and rule XXIII, the Chair declares Fowler Morella Williams Christensen Hutchinson Regula Frank (MA) Nadler Woolsey the House in the Committee of the Chrysler Hyde Richardson Frost Neal Wyden Whole House on the State of the Union Clay Inglis Rivers Gejdenson Oberstar Yates Clement Istook Roberts for the consideration of the bill, H.R. Gibbons Olver Zimmer Clinger Jackson-Lee Roemer 2127. Coble Jefferson Rogers NOT VOTING—7 Coburn Johnson (SD) Rohrabacher b Bateman Reynolds Young (AK) 1237 Collins (GA) Johnson, E.B. Ros-Lehtinen Jacobs Thurman IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Collins (MI) Johnson, Sam Roth Moakley Tucker Combest Jones Royce Accordingly the House resolved itself Condit Kanjorski Rush b 1235 into the Committee of the Whole House Cooley Kaptur Sabo Costello Kasich Salmon Messrs. STARK, OLVER, GORDON, on the State of the Union for the con- Cox Kelly Sanders SERRANO, GILMAN, Ms. DELAURO, sideration of the bill (H.R. 2127) mak- Coyne Kildee Sanford Mrs. COLLINS of Illinois, Ms. ing appropriations for the Departments Cramer Kim Sawyer ´ of Labor, Health and Human Services, Crapo King Saxton VELAZQUEZ, Ms. WATERS, and Ms. Cremeans Kingston Scarborough MCKINNEY changed their vote from and Education, and related agencies, Cubin Klug Schaefer ‘‘yea’’ to ‘‘nay.’’ for the fiscal year ending September 30, Cunningham Knollenberg Schiff Mr. COSTELLO and Mr. WISE 1996, and for other purposes, with Mr. Danner Kolbe Schumer ALKER Davis LaHood Seastrand changed their vote from ‘‘nay’’ to W in the chair. de la Garza Lantos Sensenbrenner ‘‘yea.’’ The Clerk read the title of the bill. Deal Largent Shadegg So the resolution, as amended, was The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the DeFazio Latham Shays agreed to. rule, as amended, the bill is considered DeLay LaTourette Shuster Diaz-Balart Laughlin Sisisky The result of the vote was announced as having been read the first time. Dickey Lazio Skeen as above recorded. Under the rule, the gentleman from Dicks Leach Skelton A motion to reconsider was laid on Illinois [Mr. PORTER] and the gen- Dingell Levin Smith (MI) the table. tleman from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY] will Dixon Lewis (CA) Smith (NJ) Dooley Lewis (GA) Smith (TX) f be recognized for 1 hour and 15 min- Doolittle Lewis (KY) Smith (WA) utes. Dornan Lightfoot Solomon PERMISSION FOR SUNDRY COM- The Chair recognizes the gentleman Doyle Linder Souder MITTEES AND THEIR SUB- from Illinois [Mr. PORTER]. Dreier Lipinski Spence Duncan Livingston Spratt COMMITTEES TO SIT TODAY (Mr. PORTER asked and was given Dunn LoBiondo Stearns DURING 5-MINUTE RULE permission to revise and extend his re- Edwards Lofgren Stenholm Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Speaker, I ask marks.) Ehlers Longley Stockman Ehrlich Lucas Stokes unanimous consent that the following Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield Emerson Manton Stump committees and their subcommittees myself such time as I may consume. English Manzullo Stupak be permitted to sit today while the Mr. Chairman, this is obviously a Ensign Martini Talent very difficult and contentious bill. It Eshoo Mascara Tanner House is meeting in the Committee of Everett Matsui Tate the Whole under the 5-minute rule. cuts $6.3 billion from discretionary Ewing McCarthy Tauzin Committee on Banking and Financial budget authority of $67.2 billion, reduc- Fattah McCollum Taylor (MS) Services; Committee on International ing it to $60.9 billion. Fawell McCrery Taylor (NC) It is a 9–percent overall cut. It is a Fazio McDade Tejeda Relations; Committee on National Se- Fields (TX) McHale Thornberry curity; Committee on Small Business; cut that is necessary to help bring Flake McHugh Thornton Committee on Transportation and In- down deficits and bring our budget as Flanagan McInnis Tiahrt frastructure; and Committee on Veter- quickly as possible into balance. Foglietta McIntosh Torres Foley McKeon Torricelli ans’ Affairs. The cuts range from a high of 15 per- Forbes McNulty Towns It is my understanding that the mi- cent for funding for programs in the Fox Meek Traficant nority has been consulted and that Department of Education to cuts in Franks (CT) Menendez Visclosky discretionary spending in the Depart- Franks (NJ) Metcalf Volkmer there is no objection to these requests. Frelinghuysen Mfume Vucanovich The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. ment of Health and Human Services, Frisa Mica Waldholtz DICKEY). Is there objection to the re- which is 3.5 percent. August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8195 May I suggest to my colleagues on sexually transmitted diseases, chronic As I mentioned, Job Corps is in- the other side of the aisle that cuts of and environemtnal diseases, breast and creased, one-stop career centers are 9 percent in a bill of this magnitude are cervical cancer screening, and infec- level funded, Bureau of Labor Statis- not cuts that will cause the sky to fall. tious diseases. Programmatic levels tics is funded almost at level at $347 They are moderate cuts that allow the are maintained for programs such as million, a reduction of 1.3 percent, departments and agencies and pro- the preventive health block grant, the OSHA funds are shifted, as I men- grams under our jurisdiction to con- AIDS prevention activities, tuber- tioned, and the bill directs more of the tribute to deficit reduction and ensure culosis, lead poisoning and epidemic Community Service Employment for that we help bring the deficits down services. Older Americans spending to local pro- and stop asking our children and viders rather than to national con- b 1245 grandchildren to pay for what we re- tracts. ceive. We increased, Mr. Chairman, funding The bill also contains language to Mr Chairman, we worked very hard for the Job Corps program, which will prevent implementation of the Presi- on the bill. We attempted to use intel- permit the opening of four newly au- dent’s Executive order on striker re- ligence and thoughtfulness in address- thorized centers, and, Mr. Chairman, placements and to end pressure on pen- ing the priorities for spending for our we support student assistance very sion funds to invest in economically country under our jurisdiction, and we strongly by providing the largest in- targeted investments. looked very carefully at every single crease in maximum Pell grants in his- For the Department of Health and line item starting with the premise tory, and by funding the maximum Human Services, the funding declines that everything in the bill must con- grant at $2,440, also the highest level in by $1 billion, a 3.5-percent cut. tribute something to helping us to re- history. The bill funds the health centers ac- duce the deficit. We provide level funding for Federal tivities at $77 million above last year’s We asked ourselves, Mr. Chairman, supplemental educational opportuni- level, $756.5 million, and provides an in- whether a particular program needed ties grants, the work study programs crease of $116 million for the maternal to be a Federal responsibility or could and the TRIO program, which we con- and child health block grant to $800 it be done better in the private sector sider a very high priority. million. or by State government or local gov- We do terminate 170 programs origi- The bill presently folds the family ernment? nally funded in fiscal 1995 at $4.9 bil- planning program into the community We asked ourselves, does the program lion. Among those terminated are and migrant health programs and the actually work? In other words, is it ac- many of the 163 separate job training maternal and child health block grant, tually helping people, or is it simply programs in the Department of Labor an idea that I do not support and will providing work to the people in the de- and the Department of Education and oppose when the amendment comes be- partments either at the State, Federal, over 50 programs in the Department of fore the floor for our consideration. or local level? Education that provide no direct serv- We do provide level funding, mainte- We asked whether it met a national ices to students but instead fund re- nance funding, for the Centers for Dis- need, whether the administrative costs search, technical assistance, informa- ease Control and Prevention programs were too high in respect to the benefits tion dissemination, or demonstration support, supporting a broad range of to be derived. funds. prevention programs and funding many We asked ourselves, was it duplica- We terminate Goals 2000, Mr. Chair- others at last year’s level, including tive of other programs? man, a program that also provides no the CDC AIDS prevention program. Every single line item was measured direct assistance whatsoever to stu- Funding for breast and cervical can- against those criteria, and we under- dents but instead funds a variety of ad- cer screening is increased by 25 percent took to reduce the discretionary spend- ministrative and planning activities to $125 million. ing under our jurisdiction and, at the that school districts and States can We provide level funding for commu- same time, give commitments to na- well do without billions of dollars of nity service block grants at $390 mil- tional priorities that should be funded Federal funding. lion, for child care and development at a higher level. We focus OSHA funds more towards block grants at $935 million. For example, we provided $11.9 billion compliance assistance to prevent work- For the Ryan White AIDS program, to the National Institutes of Health, er injury and away from enforcement, funding is increased by $23 million to a the NIH research done in teaching in- an after-the-fact solution. level of $656 million, and NIOSH fund- stitutions across our country as well as We abolish the Office of the Assistant ing, Mr. Chairman, is reduced by 25 intramurally at the NIH facility in Be- Secretary of Health with its allocation percent to $99 million. thesda, Maryland. It provides research of 14 deputy assistant secretaries and Funding for the Agency of Health to combat disease and injury, helping six special assistants at a grade 15 or Care Policy and Research declines by people to live longer and healthier above, which the Department itself is 21 percent to $125.5 million. lives. in the process of reforming. We provide level funding for the men- On the economic side, the United We increase assurance that Federal tal health and substance abuse block States leads the world in biomedical funds are not being used to support the grants at $275 million and $1.23 billion, research and development. Federally advocacy of public policy. We reduce respectively. supported biomedical research creates administrative costs by cutting overall Funding for the LIHEAP program, high-skilled jobs for our people and administrative budgets in every single low-income home energy assistance, is supports the biotechnology industry, department, program, and agency by eliminated because the original jus- which also leads the world in helping 7.5 percent and for congressional and tification for this program no longer to generate a positive balance of trade public affairs offices by 10 percent. exists and has not existed for many for our country. The increase for fiscal Mr. Chairman, for the Department of years. year 1996 is $642 million, an increase of Labor, we cut discretionary spending The bill reduces funding for Head 5.7 percent. by $1.1 billion, or 11.4 percent. This in- Start by $137 million, or 3.9 percent, We, at the same time, removed nu- cludes substantial reductions in cer- from last year’s level, and even with merous earmarks and instructions that tain job training programs, including this reduction, Head Start is still fund- placed political considerations ahead of the elimination of funding for the sum- ed at over $3.3 billion for fiscal year scientific decisions as to the most mer jobs programs, also previously re- 1996. We are not at all hostile to Head promising avenues of research. We end scinded because of their general lack of Start. We are strong supporters of earmarking of research funding and effectiveness. This decision reflects the Head Start, but we do believe that it is leave the funding priorities not to po- need to prioritize programs and reduce necessary to send a message to those litical considerations, but to science. spending as well as the fact the Com- programs that are not being run prop- We increase funding for prevention mittee on Economic and Educational erly that the funding will not go on programs by $63 million, including Opportunities is in the process of con- forever without their cleaning up their funding for childhood immunization, solidating these same programs. act and providing the kinds of services H 8196 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 that we expect in a program that is out of the Committee on Appropria- on women and kids and workers of any well run. tions in the 25 years that I have had appropriation bill in the postwar era. The bill also changes current law by the privilege to serve the Seventh Dis- It reveals in the process enormous providing the States with the option of trict of Wisconsin in this House. differences between my party and the providing Federal Medicaid funds for Mr. Chairman, the public, in the last Republican majority about the prior- abortion in cases of rape or incest and election, tried to send us a message. I ities that ought to be given to raising prohibits the use of Federal funds to think what happened in the last elec- the quality of our children’s education, discriminate against medical schools tion is that working people for more to protect the health and dignity of who do not include abortion training as than a decade saw their living standard workers, both in the workplace and at part of their overall Ob/Gyn training fall. They have seen costs slowly rise, the bargaining table, and to provide and bans embryo research by NIH. I while their incomes have stood still or the skills necessary for workers to might say, Mr. Chairman, I do not even declined in real dollar terms after compete in a changing world economy. agree with these provisions and will ad- you adjust for inflation. Young work- And it shreds the vulnerable and those dress them when we come into that ers see that it takes two workers per who are often cruelly neglected in a section of the bill where amendments family to maintain the same kind of materialist society. are being offered. living standards that you could main- Next to the fight over Medicare, this Mr. Chairman, overall, we have a 9- tain a generation ago with one person bill is the epicenter of what I call the percent reduction. The largest depart- in the workplace. Gingrich counterrevolution. As I said, mental reduction is at 13 percent; the You have what many people call the some of the cuts are necessary to help lowest is at 3.5 percent. sandwich generation. They are des- reduce our Federal spending, but this This is a responsible bill that chooses perately worried about how to take bill goes far beyond that because the priorities for our country, funds those care of their retired parents at the economic game plan, of which this bill programs that are essential and work- same time that they are trying to find is a part, is insisting that we provide, ing well to help people in our country. enough money to send their kids to among other things, some very large It is a bill also that contributes its school. And I think for many years in- tax cuts for some very rich people. share to deficit reduction and the need dividual Americans have been looking If you take a look at what is being for us to put our fiscal house in order. in the mirror when they get up in the prescribed, you understand what I Let me say in closing Mr. Chairman, morning and saying, ‘‘Hey, what am I mean. We are being told by our Repub- I believe we have done our job in a very doing wrong?’’ lican friends that we need to eliminate thoughtful and responsible manner. I But in the 1990’s I think they have the corporate minimum tax. This is a believe that we have made the reduc- come to understand that it is not just list of companies who, from 1982 to tions necessary to contribute to deficit them. I think they have come to under- 1985, paid no taxes whatsoever, despite reduction in a way that preserves es- stand that everybody is being squeezed. the fact that they made one whale of a sential and good programs. And in 1992, President Clinton was lot of money. We are going to return to To say that the sky is falling because elected because I think the public those good old days because our major- we have reduced spending in this area wanted him to pursue a solution to ity party friends want us to eliminate is simply to vastly overstate the case. fundamental problems. the minimum tax that those corpora- The Federal Government has grown for In 1994 they were not satisfied with tions have to pay. So we will go back 40 years. It has grown without any con- the progress that they thought had to the good old days when AT&T, Du- trol. It has grown on deficit spending been made. They saw a national failure Pont, Boeing, General Dynamics, that has raised our national debt to on health care. They saw too much Pepsico, General Mills, Trans America, nearly $5 trillion. time being devoted to marginal issues, Texaco, International Paper, Grey- These departments have grown and so they put our Republican friends hound, you get the idea, all the way hugely. In the last 10 years alone, the in charge. And I think what they were down. You see, those corporations, dur- Department of Education has gone hoping was that by doing so, that ing the 1982 to 1985 period, made $59 bil- from 120 programs to 240 programs, just would force both parties to work to- lion in profits, $59 billion in profits. in the last 10 years. We must get con- gether to produce a common agenda on Yet in many of those years they escape trol over this process. We must get common ground for the common good paying a dime in taxes. We are going to back to the core programs that serve of the greatest number of people in this gouge Medicare and gouge programs in people. We must trim the tree. Every country. They wanted us to deliver a this bill to help finance that kind of once in a while you have to do that, dollar’s worth of service for a dollar’s nonsense. Mr. Chairman. You have to look at all worth of taxes. They wanted programs b that has grown up and, however worthy that were as well managed as they 1300 it may be, it is very costly to admin- were well meaning, and I think they If we take a look at the Federal Re- ister. We do not need programs that wanted us to weed out unnecessary serve studies which have been done on are very tightly targeted with their spending and make Government small- what happened in the 1980’s, this shows own separate staff and administrator. er and make Government work better who has gotten what and what has hap- We need to get back to core programs at the same time. pened to the American dream in the that really help people. That has been I think they also wanted a war on 1980’s. the thrust of our thinking in this bill. special interest domination of the Con- The Federal Reserve shows that from I think we have done a responsible job. gress and the Government. the end of World War II to roughly 1979, I commend the bill to all of the Mem- Now, certainly I think many of us in beginning of 1979, indeed a rising tide bers. the Democratic Party got the message. did lift all boats in this country, be- Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance If we did not, we would have had to be cause whether one was in the bottom 20 of my time. deaf. And I think many of us are will- percent of income in the country, or in Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- ing to work to try to pursue that kind the middle, or in the top, everybody’s self 17 minutes. of agenda. But this bill goes far beyond income rose, even after inflation. And Mr. Chairman, I have a great deal of that. so everybody, despite the fact that we respect for the gentleman from Illinois, This bill eliminates a number of un- had the Vietnam war, despite the fact as he knows. He has worked very hard, necessary and duplicative programs. I that we had the race riots after Martin and he has dealt with all of us in a very say ‘‘good.’’ It makes additional cuts in Luther King was killed, this society fair way. But he is, frankly, caught in the name of deficit reduction. Maybe hung together because everybody was a maelstrom not of his own making. we are not thrilled about that because getting a piece of the growing eco- This is not a bill which he would have some of these programs we deeply care nomic pie. But from 1979 through the produced had he been able to control about, but we understand it is nec- latest year for which the Federal Re- events. essary. But it goes far beyond that and, serve has been able to compile statis- Mr. Chairman, this is the worst ap- in doing so, becomes the meanest and tics we see that, instead of growing to- propriation bill that I have seen come the most vicious and extreme attack gether, this country has been growing August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8197 apart. I say to my colleagues, If you’re lege, but now we are going to have an which will make it easier for some cor- in the bottom 20 percent of income, awful lot of folks who have climbed the porations to make a profit, no doubt. It you have lost a bundle since 1979. If economic ladder of opportunity pulling will also make it easier for those cor- you’re in the middle, you have lost that ladder up after them by not mak- porations to violate wage hour laws. It ground. Only if you’re in the top 20 per- ing a contribution to that program. will make it a lot less risky for them cent of income earners in this country Goals 2000 to improve educational qual- to set up bogus pension systems. It will have you done well, and especially the ity: bipartisan, started under George make it a whole lot easier for corpora- richest 1⁄2 million families in this coun- Bush, wiped out under this bill. tions to abuse workers who try to orga- try have done exceedingly well because The next biggest hit comes on the nize to get better pay. So that is an- the new Federal Reserve study shows vulnerable, the seniors, the disabled, other one of the ‘‘grace notes’’ in this that the richest 1⁄2 million families in and the poor kids in this society. In the bill. this country, about 1⁄2 percent of the late 1970’s Senator Muskie and I start- All in all what this bill is going to do total family number, have increased ed a program to help low-income peo- is make it harder for ordinary people their share of national wealth since ple, mostly seniors, pay their fuel bills, to hang on to a middle-class lifestyle, 1980, the beginning year of the Reagan heat their houses in the wintertime, and it is going to make workers more revolution. They’ve increased their cool them in the summertime, because vulnerable to the whims of their em- share of national wealth from 24 per- we got awfully tired of seeing senior ployers who want to avoid paying the cent of the Nation’s wealth to 31 per- citizens who had to choose between minimum wage, or the 40-hour week, or cent. paying their prescription drugs and rules for fair labor practices, or stand- Mr. Chairman, that is a huge expan- keeping their house warm in the win- ards for a safe working environment. sion of wealth for the wealthiest people ter. So we passed a low-income heating I think what we are regrettably wit- in this society who already had a awful assistance program. nessing in this bill—and indeed across lot. The wealth for those few families We just had almost 800 people in this the board in this Congress, but espe- increased by a greater amount, by al- country die in a heat wave 3 week ago, cially in this bill—I think we are wit- most twice as much as the entire na- and lots of Governors put out press re- nessing a giving up on our efforts to be tional debt increased during that pe- leases saying, ‘‘We are going to release one people with a common interest and riod. And yet our Republican friends on emergency money under the Low-In- a common cause. We are ceasing to be this side of the aisle think that that is come Heating Assistance Program that a country with a large and growing not enough disparity, that is not the Federal Government has just given middle class. Instead we are accepting enough trickle-down which starts by us so that we could help people in that the fact that we are going to have taking care of the needs of people in situation.’’ Guess what? Under this bill fewer and fewer tickets into the middle the top berths. there is not going to be any more fund- class, and we are accepting the fact So they have produced a tax package ing available to provide that kind of that we are going to have a level of in- which has a distribution table roughly emergency relief because the program security for those in the middle class this way: is wiped out. Eighty percent of the peo- that used to be associated with being The average tax cut per family from ple who use that program make less poor. We are becoming in my view a so- the House tax bill is mighty slim for than $10,000 a year, one-third of them ciety with a very rich people and a someone in the bottom 40 percent, or are disabled, so that is just another of great number of people trying des- even in the middle of this society, but, the grace notes in this bill. perately to hang on to some semblance oh man, someone in that top 1 percent, Under this bill we are going to have of what is left of a middle-class living $20,000 in a tax cut. So we are going to thousands of students who are learning standard, and not many people in be- chisel on programs for poverty-ridden to teach handicapped kids who are tween, and this bill makes all of that senior citizens, and we are going to going to lose their scholarships to do worse. chisel on the aid that we provide local that. school districts to help educate the Under Healthy Start; it was started Mr. Chairman, this bill savagely cuts most difficult to educate kids in this by President Bush to attack infant financial support for crucial programs society in order to provide those folks mortality in communities where it is that have been used by millions of a $20,000 tax cut. more than twice as high as the na- Americans to help work themselves up Mr. Chairman, that is what is behind tional average. That program is going the economic ladder. And the New Cen- this bill, and that is why this bill is so to be cut in half under this bill. Thirty- turions who are running this House, I wrong. six thousand babies are going to die in think, after having made it themselves If we take a look at what is happen- this country this year. are perfectly willing to pull that ladder ing, the biggest cut in this bill is aimed Head Start, which the gentleman up after them, and my response is, at the aid that we have traditionally from Maryland [Mr. HOYER] and others ‘‘Shame on you, shame on you. You provided local school districts, some will talk about later: 45,000 to 55,000 ought to know better.’’ $21⁄2 billion. Going to clobber chapter 1. kids going to be tossed out the window This bill also contains a number of Going to clobber ‘‘Drug-Free Schools’’ on that program, and we are essen- legislative riders which are slipped into that helps schools teach kids to avoid tially going to be saying to local school this bill literally in the dead of night drugs before they get hooked. Going to districts, ‘‘You find a way to take care because that is when we met, from 9:30 clobber vocational education. Going to of it, kiddo. We’re not going to do that at night until 3 in the morning. And lay it to the School to Work Program anymore.’’ those provisions rip into the protec- which helps non-college-bound kids Both parties talk a grand game on tions that we provided workers and move out of high school into the world welfare reform, and yet this bill clob- working families for decades. We will of work and helps them to try to find bers virtually every program on the be offering amendments to try to strip someplace that will give them a good books to move people from welfare into that language out, but we will not be bit of training to transition into the work. It clobbers the dislocated worker offering amendments to fix this bill fi- work force. The main results from program, it clobbers adult job training, nancially because this bill is beyond that, my colleagues can be assured, and it hammers State vocational edu- repair because of votes previously al- will be lower educational quality and cational grants. ready cast in this House which locks higher property taxes. And what disturbs me more than this subcommittee into an allocation For the first time in 34 years the anything in this bill is the attack it of resources which will allow this Con- Federal Government is not going to makes, the attack it makes on the pro- gress to continue to fund the B–2, for make a contribution to the Stafford tections that workers have a right to instance, over $1 billion a plane. That student loan program. I would bet my expect will remain: protections for is the cost of the B–2, just one B–2 colleagues that a good third of the peo- worker health, protections for worker bomber, and we are buying more than ple in this Chamber, if they are 30 safety, protections for their bargaining the Pentagon asked for, more than the years of age or older, used that Staf- rights. There are deep cuts in the President asked for, more than the ford program when they went to col- Labor Department enforcement here Joint Chiefs of Staff asked for. Just H 8198 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 one of those babies would pay the tui- Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield the second Arab oil embargo. It did tion costs of every single kid at the myself such time as I may consume. raise prices unconscionably, and the University of Wisconsin, Madison, for Mr. Chairman, let me say about the poor were terribly affected by the fact the next 12 years, to put it in perspec- gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY] that heating oil and energy costs gen- tive. that I appreciate his contributions in erally went through the roof. Today, While we are going to be gutting the working with the majority and the however, energy costs and heating oil programs for the people in this bill, Mr. Members on his side who are excellent are at historic lows. The Federal policy Chairman, we are going to continue the members of our subcommittee as well. has long since gone. There is no crisis, production, or we are going to begin He has contributed throughout the and yet the program continues on and production, of the F–22 in the Speak- process in marking up and reporting on and on. er’s home State; $70 billion for that air- the bill. It has not been easy for any of Do we have needs in this country plane to complete production. That is us, and I appreciate his kind remarks, among the poor? Of course, we do. Is it more than we have got in this entire and I feel that we have worked very the Federal responsibility to address bill in discretionary spending, for ev- well together and have done our best in every one of those needs? It seems to erything that this bill is supposed to do addressing the difficult problems in the me it is the responsibility of the utili- for education, and workers and seniors. bill. ties and the States which regulate So we will be trying to make people I might say regarding his chart, the them to handle that problem, as they understand, as we go through the one that shows the quintiles of income always did in the past, and not for the amendment process, what is at stake, for people in the country, that that Federal Government to create a pro- not inside the beltway, but for people chart is completely misleading because gram that simply is unending. A very out there in the country, and we will it deals only with income. Income used expensive program indeed. be trying to focus people’s attention on to be a very easy quantifiable measure, The gentleman talked about chapter the vote on final passage. There are but the difficulty was that the very 1, title I, the program for economically going to be a lot of Members offering times he worries that the income has disadvantaged students. It would be amendments, what I call get-off-the- gone down, we began a process in our wonderful to fund that forever, except hook amendments, or what I call holy country of providing worker benefits for one thing: The program does not picture amendments to try to pose for through employment health benefits, work. The very schools that the pro- holy pictures and look good on a little pension benefits and the like that are gram sends its money to in the inner narrow issue on this bill, hoping then not reflected in his chart. cities are failing our students. All the people would not notice that they Mr. Chairman, he also ignores Gov- money in the world is not going to voted for final passage. The only way ernment transfer payments. There is change that and it has not changed to correct the gross injustices in this nothing in there that takes account of that. bill is to vote the bill down, send it food stamps, Medicaid and like pro- In fact, the schools are in awful con- back to the committee, insist that the grams. So the chart measuring only in- dition. What is going to change it is committee redo its budget allocation come does not measure the well-being the very thing my State is doing. If I process so that we do not have to gouge of families at all, and I believe that no can say to the gentleman, we have said seniors, gouge our future education one should believe that the chart really to the city of Chicago, which has prospects in order to provide a big tax reflects the condition of families across among the poorest public schools in cut for some of the richest people in this country. this country. I might say about the tax package, America, end it. Get rid of your board Mrs. SCHROEDER. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, that I agree with what of education, get rid of all your bu- will the gentleman yield? the gentleman said about taxes. We reaucracy and levels of administration. Mr. OBEY. I yield to the gentle- should not be making tax cuts at this We are turning over to the mayor of woman from Colorado. time. I did not support the tax cut pro- the city of Chicago the entire respon- Mrs. SCHROEDER. One of the most visions. I believe we should make tax sibility for the schools; and, believe profound and thoughtful statements I cuts when we have balanced the budget me, the mayor will straighten them have ever heard, I say to the gen- and not before. A question of timing. I out. One of the great problems with tleman. certainly think that they are not ap- school funding in America is that it I wanted to talk about the gentle- propriate right now, and I might agree supports huge bureaucracies that do man’s charts for a moment because I also with the gentleman, this is not the not help students one whit. All you thought they were so ominous. The time to provide huge funding for the B– have to do is look to our major cities way I read the gentleman’s tax-cut 2. Even though it is wonderful tech- and see that that money is money chart, that last one is for the upper 1 nology to have, we do have other prob- truly down a rat hole. It is not working percent? Is that correct? lems that have to be addressed. I have to help kids. Mr. OBEY. Yep, 1 percent. never supported funding for the B–2 Healthy Start. Healthy Start is a Mrs. SCHROEDER. The upper 1 per- demonstration program. We support cent, and the reason I thought it was bomber. Mr. Chairman, let me talk about that program. It is going to terminate important to point it out is, as I under- some of the other things the gentleman this year. We did cut the funding for it stand the chart before that, it is bro- has talked about and set the record to terminate it a little earlier, but it is ken into 20 percent—— straight. On Perkins loans, which he not an ongoing program. It is not any Mr. OBEY. That is right. thing other than a demonstration pro- Mrs. SCHROEDER. So what the gen- called Stafford loans, the Perkins Loan gram. We think it works well, and tleman is saying there is while the Program is already funded at $6 billion. maybe should be reauthorized, but that upper 20 percent had been doing much Yes, it is true we did not add $158 mil- is not up to the Committee on Appro- better, obviously, than the lower 20 lion of new capital to that account, but priations. percent, with this tax cut we are for- the account is a revolving account with Head Start I addressed earlier. Let getting even the upper 19 percent of $6 billion out there. I might say that if me say once again we strongly support that 20 percent. We are just going for every person who borrowed a Perkins Head Start, but we do not support the 1 percent; we are going for the real- loan repaid it, we would never need to sending money into new Head Start ly fattest of the fat cats. add capital to the account except as Mr. OBEY. Well, I guess what I would the number of students rise that might programs where it is poorly adminis- say is we have been told that this bill need it. There is a very adequate fund tered and we are not getting value for represents payback time, and I guess available to students who need help in the money. That is why we made a when we see this chart, we can see who this country. We have not cut that at very small cut in a program of over $3 is getting paid back. all. We simply were not able, in this billion that will keep the program budgetary environment, to add to it. going but send a message that we want b 1315 We talked about the LIHEAP Pro- that money spent well and wisely. Mrs. SCHROEDER. I thank the gen- gram earlier. I would have supported it Job training: 163 programs. The gen- tleman. in 1979 because Federal policy caused tleman talks about the dislocated August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8199 workers program, the displaced work- played a tremendous role in getting happy about spending money on every ers program, for example. What about this bill through the subcommittee neat idea that some legislator happens it? The Department of Labor, in its markup and through the full commit- to come up with, and that is what this own departmental evaluations says tee. His help had been invaluable. I bill has come to be. We have never that short-term skills training has not want him to know how much all of us scaled this bill back, and for that rea- been successful in producing earning appreciate it. He has done a splendid son we now have redundancies and inef- gains for dislocated workers. Only a job under very, very difficult cir- ficiencies and unnecessary spending, minority of displaced workers are like- cumstances throughout the year, and wasteful spending, riddled all through ly to enter long-term training if the all the major appropriation bills, hope- the bill. option is offered to them. fully, including this one, will have been I rise, Mr. Chairman, in support of Frankly, Mr. Chairman, the program passed on our August recess. That ac- the bill as it has been confected by this is not a very good program and should complishment is a real testimony to subcommittee and hope that the Mem- have received and did receive the kinds the leadership of our chairman and the bers will pass the bill on the House of cuts that we made in it. We need ef- importance of his excellent staff. floor and send it to the Senate, and, ul- fective programs that work for people, Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he timately, to the President. I think it and the authorizing committee is in may consume to the gentleman from represents a real transformation; a re- the process of reforming that entire Louisiana [Mr. LIVINGSTON]. alization that, yes, there has been a area and I think we are going to see (Mr. LIVINGSTON asked and was revolution of political thought; that we that happen. given permission to revise and extend cannot afford every good idea or every Now, Mr. Chairman, I want to take his remarks.) neat idea that comes down the pike, just a minute to thank the members of Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I and that we can do things differently. our subcommittee before I recognize thank my friend, the distinguished We can actually give money to those the chairman of the full committee. gentleman from Illinois [Mr. PORTER], who need it. We can help people survive Again, I thank the gentleman from the chairman of the Subcommittee on without simply throwing money at Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY], our ranking Labor, Health and Human Services, every idea that tries to address every member. He has done an excellent job, and Education for his very kind re- single problem. and it is a very difficult assignment for marks and for his outstanding efforts him to have this ranking membership on behalf of this very difficult and In fact, Mr. Chairman, the debate in addition to being the ranking mem- complex bill. It was a hard task for him today goes way beyond this bill. It is ber on the full committee. to approach preparing and presenting really about the legacy that we leave We also have five new members of the this bill because he does care so deeply our children, about the contract we subcommittee: The gentleman from about each and every one of the items signed with the American people last Oklahoma [Mr. ISTOOK], the gentleman that are the subject matter of the bill. September, and about the mandate from Florida [Mr. MILLER], the gen- He has done a splendid job. This bill that the American voters gave to all of tleman from Arkansas [Mr. DICKEY], meets our budget targets, and I com- us in November. That mandate is to the gentleman from California [Mr. mend him, all of the staff, and all of balance the budget, to end duplication RIGGS], and the gentleman from Mis- the members of the committee on both in Federal programs, and to downsize sissippi [Mr. WICKER]. All of them have sides of the aisle. government agencies. To paraphrase done a wonderful job on our sub- I want to say to my friend, the rank- the debate earlier in the year on the committee and in their work on this ing minority member of the committee Republican budget: Why do we need to bill. and the subcommittee, that I have en- balance the budget? The chairman of I also want to thank the staff of the joyed working with him through this the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan, Committee on Appropriations, the full very rigorous process. He and I do not said it best: So that our children will committee. They have been extremely agree on every single issue, and, as you have a higher standard of living than helpful to us every step of the way, as will soon hear, certainly not on the is- their parents. they have been to all the subcommit- sues involving this bill or his last Now, Mr. Chairman, how long can we tees during this very difficult appro- statement, but we have had a good really expect to continue to strap priation season in the House. I would working relationship. American citizens with a national debt like to remind the Members of the Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, would the that is approaching $5 trillion, a debt House that this committee has man- gentleman yield? that equates to over $18,000 for every aged the passage and signature of the Mr. LIVINGSTON. I yield to the gen- man, woman, and child in America? President of two rescission bills al- tleman from Wisconsin briefly. That debt, just like the debt on your ready, including the largest rescission Mr. OBEY. As the gentleman knows, credit cards, is gathering interest at a in history just signed by the President. Will Rogers said once that when two rapid rate. So rapid in fact, that within The staff has done an excellent job. people agree on everything, one of a year and a half, the interest on the I would like also, Mr. Chairman, to them is unnecessary. debt that we pay will exceed what we thank the staff of the minority mem- Mr. LIVINGSTON. I would hope the spend on the National defense of this bership, Mike Stephens, who has done gentleman has just proved that neither country. an excellent job in representing the mi- one of us is unnecessary. One of us will nority, and he has worked coopera- win, and I hope it is me. The fact is we have to rein in spend- tively and courteously with all of our At any rate, I want to commend him ing. We have to start saving and econo- staff. Our staff has done wonderful, for the way he has handled his business mizing. Government spending is not wonderful work, headed by our clerk, on the subcommittee and on the com- the be-all end-all to all of our prob- Tony McCann, Bob Knisely, Sue mittee. He is a great Member of Con- lems. We have thrown money for too Quantius, Mike Myers, Joanne gress. He believes deeply in the institu- long at too many problems and gotten Orndorff, and Jennifer MacKay. All tion, and I personally enjoy working too little result. Now we realize if we have done wonderful work. Jennifer is with him very much, and would say to do not start balancing our books, just on detail from the Department of the Members that I think he is totally like every family in America has to do Health and Human Services. She has wrong on this bill. and every business in America has to been a very big help to us all year long In fact, Mr. Chairman, I think his do, that this Nation will, like many and we appreciate having her. statement on the floor is a representa- other nations, go bankrupt. Let me take this opportunity, if I tion, a very good representation, of a Mr. Chairman, I do not think that is may, Mr. Chairman, to thank the very failed and flawed philosophy that a legacy we want to leave our children chairman of the Committee on Appro- has gone dry over the last 60 years. It or grandchildren. Even with the Repub- priations [Mr. LIVINGSTON]. I cannot has ended. Socialism does not work lican budget that balances spending by think of a tougher job than his job. I do anymore. We now know you cannot the year 2002, total Federal spending not know when he has time to get even reach into the pockets of the taxpayer will continue to grow by hundreds of a minimal amount of sleep. He has and expect them to rise up and be billions of dollars. H 8200 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 b 1330 In this bill, after the cuts that have In fact, there has been some talk In fact, we would just slow the in- been described by the gentleman from about those tax benefits. I have an- crease in spending with our budget be- Wisconsin who preceded me, we still other chart, not blown up unfortu- tween now and then to an annual 3 per- provide $68.1 billion in discretionary nately, but here is the Republican tax cent growth rate as the economy outlay spending for hundreds of domes- proposal. People whose income is under grows. We are not stopping all spend- tic programs. We still provide a total of $20,000 get 5 percent of the proposed tax ing. We are not even cutting real $278 billion in spending when you in- benefit. The people making between spending. The Government budget will clude mandatory programs under this $20,000 and $30,000 of income get rough- continue to grow at an annual rate of 3 committee’s jurisdiction. ly 10 percent of the proposed tax bene- We provide $11.9 billion for the Na- percent with the bills that we have fit. The people making between $30,000 tional Institutes of Health; $642 million passed this year. and $40,000 get 15 percent of the benefit. over last year’s level, which represents Under the Republican budget for Those making between $40,000 and a 6-percent increase. $50,000 get 15 percent of the benefit. If Medicare that you have heard so much We have increased funding for pre- about, it will still increase at an astro- you add all these together and include vention by $62 million for such pro- the people making under $75,000, all of nomical 6.4 percent a year. Until this grams like breast and cervical cancer, and other appropriations bills that these people get 65 percent of the tax childhood immunization, and infec- benefits. For the $500 child credit pro- have come to the floor this year, tious diseases. We have provided over nondefense domestic discretionary posal, 75 percent of this tax benefit $2.16 billion for the Centers for Disease goes to those making under $75,000 in spending since 1985, according to this Control programs, an increase of $39 President’s own fiscal year 1996 budget the aggregate. million over last year, and $802 million Now, Mr. Chairman, I will have to submission, has increased, even in in- for the maternal and child health pro- tell you that there has been a lot of flation-adjusted outlay dollars, by 28 gram, which is $116 million over last hype. There has been a lot of overplay, percent, grown by 28 percent since 1985. year’s level. a lot of scare mongering. People say Means-tested entitlements, those We increased the Job Corps funding that this bill should not be adopted be- programs over which we have little or to open four new centers; total spend- cause it cuts. It spends a total of $278 no control because they are written ing for Job Corps is $1.1 billion in this billion for good causes, and that is $278 into law, and anybody who qualifies bill. In this bill we provide the largest billion from the American taxpayer. It gets the money, have increased by 38 increase in history for the maximum is not unfair, it is not unwise, it is not percent since 1985. Still, despite what Pell grant, $2,440 per individual. devastating. It is a good bill, it is a others would have you believe, this is This bill provides new funding of $6.9 critical bill, it should be passed, and I the first annual Labor, Health and billion for funding for student financial urge its adoption. Human Services, and Education appro- assistance, and combined with the Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- priations bill since 1986 that actually carry-over Pell grant funding, the total self 31⁄2 minutes. decreases spending from the previous is $7.7 billion for student assistance, an Mr. Chairman, just very briefly to re- year, and I say for good reason. increase of $103.9 million over last spond to the previous two gentlemen, I It is a follow-up to the reductions we year’s level, and they say the sky is would say first to the gentleman from made in the rescissions bill, the $17 bil- falling. We are not giving enough to Illinois [Mr. PORTER], he suggests that lion rescission bill the President now students. our tax charts are not accurate. Is the has, after one veto, finally signed into The bill provides, among other gentleman truly suggesting that the law. So that was the first step the things—here is a good one. We have middle-class families in this country President called it down payment on a heard the President, we have heard have done better the last 10 years than balanced budget. But in this bill, we those in Congress who decry the cuts the super rich? If he is, I would respect- take that further. Yes; we do eliminate say the sky is falling, the Sun is rising fully suggest somebody is smoking programs and downsize and streamline in the West. Head Start, the one they something that is not legal. I do not programs in this bill, because we be- talk about so much, we are cutting it think anybody else sees it that way. lieve that we can provide assistance to all the way back from $3.5 billion to The gentleman says that the Perkins the truly needy without simply having $3.4 billion; $3.4 billion will be spent on loan is amply funded. All I can tell you more wasteful, inefficient, redundant, Head Start alone, up from $2.2 billion is there are going to be 150,000 students unnecessary, or abusive programs. in 1992. And where does that money who are not going to be able to be We believe that it is not necessary to come from? From the American tax- helped by the Perkins loan program have 163 programs across 15 depart- payer, the generous American tax- this year if we do not make a contribu- ments and agencies doing the same payer. The taxpayer that genuinely tion to it. thing in terms of Federal employment cares deeply about America’s children, The gentleman says in terms of low- training programs or Federal job train- is contributing this year, under this income heating assistance, there is no ing. We believe that it is not necessary bill, $3.4 billion for Head Start, as well crisis. Good gravy, 600 people died in to have 266 Federal programs across 8 as $4.3 billion for foster care and adop- Chicago just 2 weeks ago because they departments and agencies for youth at tion assistance, $2.8 billion for the so- were overcome by heat. The low-in- risk. We believe that it is not nec- cial services block grant, $1.2 billion come heating assistance program is the essary to have 80 Federal welfare pro- for the substance abuse block grant, $1 program that is supposed to help folks grams or 167 Federal programs across billion for the jobs program, $934.6 mil- like that. No crisis? 16 departments and agencies, according lion for child care block grants, $77 The gentleman says that because to the GAO, for housing purposes, or 90 million for the aging programs, or the schools are in trouble, we ought to cut programs across 11 departments and administration of aging programs, $428 back on chapter I. To suggest you agencies doing early childhood pro- million for community services block ought to cut back on the major pro- grams, or 240 education programs, or at grant, $357 million for the congregate gram we have to help local school dis- least six different programs funding nutrition services, and $275.4 million tricts educate the toughest to teach family planning. for the mental health block grant. And kids in their districts, to suggest we We can hone these down. We can sep- they say the sky is falling, the world is ought to cut that back and somehow arate these programs, these coming apart because we are not spend- that is going to improve education per- redundancies and these inefficiencies, ing enough money on people? formance is, I think, backwards. and we can have fewer programs with The money comes from the taxpayer. The gentleman says that we should less bureaucracy and still provide prob- We owe them the responsibility to not worry about the dislocated worker ably more money to the people that are weed out the waste, the inefficiency, program; 193,000 fewer workers aren’t really in need. We can do without this the abuse, the redundancy, the unnec- going to get help on job training after wasteful idea of simply raising money essary spending. That is what we try to they have lost their jobs, through no from the American taxpayer and do, and we do not neglect our poor, our fault of their own. Is that the answer throwing it at good ideas. needy, our elderly, or middle class. America is going to give to the workers August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8201 who have fallen victim to programs Mr. Chairman, with all due respect, bill would be opposed by the ranking like NAFTA and GATT? I hope not. it does have a place in this debate, be- member of this subcommittee, the Re- With respect to the gentleman from cause your allocation gave the Penta- publican with whom I served for so Louisiana, he recites a great number of gon $7 billion more than the President many years, Silvio Conte. He would not small programs that ought to be elimi- asked for. You have cut at least $7 bil- countenance this bill. And Bill Natch- nated. He is beating a dead horse. We lion out of this bill. That is the prob- er, the former chairman of this sub- have already said 15 times we support lem. committee, I am aware lamentably, is turning over in his grave. the elimination of those programs. b 1345 Fine. I said earlier at a press conference The gentleman says that this bill is Mr. Speaker, I yield 6 minutes to the that Bill Natcher used to say, ‘‘If you an end to socialism. Well, with all due distinguished gentleman from Mary- take care of the health of your people respect, I do not think helping kids to land [Mr. HOYER], a member of the sub- and the education of your children, you get an education is socialistic. I do not committee. will continue to live in the strongest think helping workers to get job train- Mr. HOYER. Mr. Chairman, I thank and best nation on the face of the ing is socialistic. the gentleman for yielding time to me. earth.’’ Thomas Jefferson said that the na- I ran into one young woman in the Now, I am a Democrat. My good tion that expects to be both free and community of Rhinelander in my dis- friends and colleagues on that side of uneducated expects that which never trict, 22 years old, I think she was. She the aisle could shrug their shoulders, was and will never be. As a result of was in school, in a 2-year school. She oh, there go the Democrats again. All that philosophy, America has histori- had a couple of kids. She and her hus- they want to do is throw money at cally invested in its children, both at band split because her husband had problems. The States ought to educate the local level, the State level and, yes, beaten the living devil out of her time people. at the Federal level as well. My colleagues, let me call to your at- after time after time. She was home- We do so because we believe it is ab- less for 2 months last year, yet she tention a statement made by Terrel solutely critical for the success of Bell. Most of you will recall this is not kept going to school every day trying America’s way of life. We believe it is to make something of her life, and she a Democrat, this is the Secretary of absolutely essential if we are to remain Education appointed by Ronald was using a Perkins loan and other competitive in an increasingly global educational help. Is it socialism to help Reagan, his first Secretary of Edu- economy where young people in Amer- cation, when he first came into office, a person like this? Nonsense. ica are not just in competition with The gentleman says we should stop saying that he wanted to have a revo- kids from California or Maryland or lution in this country. Let me tell you throwing money at programs. I agree. Florida or Louisiana or Maine or Wis- Why do not you join us in eliminating what Secretary Bell believes of this consin, but are in competition with budget, not the gentleman from Wis- the B–2 and the F–22? We will save a kids who are educated in Japan, in Ger- whole lot more money than we are consin [Mr. OBEY], not the gentleman many, in Taiwan, all over the world. from Maryland, [Mr. HOYER], not the spending in this bill. Therefore, we have made a commit- The gentleman says that we are Democratic side of the aisle, but Terrel ment to making sure that every one of Bell, the Secretary of Education under going to provide plenty of money for our children is educated. the truly needy. Here is a list of the Ronald Reagan. The chairman of our committee, Mr. Statement, July 13, 1995: ‘‘The dras- truly needy giant corporations in this LIVINGSTON, has shown a chart at least tic and unwarranted education cuts country who are going to wind up again 15 times now, I think I have seen it. He made in Congress by the House Appro- paying no taxes whatsoever because of loves that chart. It is his Head Start priations Subcommittee,’’ this sub- the Republican party insistence on chart. It shows how much money we committee, this bill, ‘‘must be restored eliminating the corporate minimum are spending. or we will undercut community efforts tax. My colleagues, the reason that esca- to help better educate our children.’’ The gentleman says you are going to lated in 1989, and 1990, and 1991, and Ronald Reagan’s Secretary of Edu- have some benefits to lower income 1992 and 1993 is because the Congress cation. people in the tax bill. Undoubtedly. and President George Bush agreed, we He goes on to stay, Secretary Bell, But they will be table scraps in com- were not doing enough. The bill was Secretary of Education under Ronald parison to the caviar given to the peo- not vetoed. In fact, President Bush sug- Reagan, ‘‘I hope the rest of Congress ple at the top of the income scale. gested increases. What the gentleman will take a different view.’’ The gentleman says we should not from Louisiana did not tell my col- We urge you to reject this bill. that worry because this bill is spending $68 leagues is that more than 50 percent of is a different view than the subcommit- billion in discretionary funds. It is not. the young people in America eligible tee and committee took. It is spending $62 billion. If it was for Head Start are falling through the Listen, my colleagues, what Terrel spending $68 billion, we would not be cracks, that we are not investing in the Bell says: ‘‘The education of our chil- having this fight. over 50 percent of the young people for dren is too important to fall victim to Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chair- whom there are no seats in Head Start. this attack against education that man, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman All of us in this Nation lament the serves a narrow agenda not supported from Louisiana [Mr. LIVINGSTON], the fact that so many young people are by those who know and care about edu- distinguished chairman of the Commit- falling into lives that are negative, cation.’’ tee on Appropriations. that are going to make them tax tak- He concludes with this: ‘‘The Amer- Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I ers rather than taxpayers. They will ican people support educational excel- point out, as regretful as that incident not be positive, participating citizens lence, not political extremism.’’ was when all those people died because in our community. We see them on tel- My colleagues, the person calling for of the heat, not one of them was saved evision. And we lament and we get the rejection of this bill and opposition by the existing LIHEAP program which angry, and we say, what is happening? to political extremism was Secretary is in full operation today. The LIHEAP Government clearly cannot do it all. Terrel Bell of the Reagan administra- program did not do them any good. We have got to have parents do a bet- tion. Reject this bill. Second, the B–2 bomber, a $13 billion ter job in education. We have got to Mr. YOUNG of Florida. Mr. Chair- investment, is estimated may end up have our schools doing a better job. man, I yield 4 minutes to the gen- saving us well over $640 billion over the But we will not solve the problem by tleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. GOOD- long haul because of its payload. This disinvestment. A party that believes in LING]. is the weapons system for the future. It the capital system, in the free market Mr. GOODLING. Mr. Chairman, I really has no place in this debate, be- system knows full well if you do not in- would like to pick up on the last couple cause that is talking about the defense vest your capital, you will not get a re- words that were just mentioned: edu- of this Nation. turn. Bottom line. cational excellence. I want to stand Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- Now, I only have 4 minutes. The edu- here today to take partial responsibil- self 30 seconds. cation budget that is presented by this ity for the slowing down of the growth H 8202 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 of funding of Head Start and chapter 1. what? If you are not covering them billion. The $1.1 billion cut in title I It is based specifically on what the gen- with quality, you are doing them a dis- concentration grants means that more tleman just said: educational excel- service. than 1 million educationally disadvan- lence. So I would hope that we would use taged students would be deprived of the That is not what we have been get- those two words, educational excel- academic assistance they require in ting in Head Start in many instances. lence, to frame this discussion, not how reading and math. Funding for safe and That is not what we have been getting much money we can spend, not how drug free schools is cut by $266 million, in chapter 1 in many instances. Any- many people we can cover, but how or nearly 60 percent below the current thing other than educational excel- much we can do to help them get a funding level. Critical cuts are also lence. And I have crossed this country piece of the American dream. We have made in funding for Howard and Gal- for 20 years telling these people we not been doing that successfully in laudet Universities. want excellence. We do not want to many of these programs throughout Drastic cuts are also made in a num- just know how many new people you the United States. ber of other quality of life programs in- added. We do not want to know how Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 cluding congregate meals, services for much more money you spent. We want minutes to the gentleman from Ohio the homeless, substance abuse and to know what the results are. And we [Mr. STOKES]. mental health, unemployment insur- do not have any studies that show us (Mr. STOKES asked and was given ance, and employment for older Ameri- anything to indicate that $40 billion in permission to revise and extend his re- cans. I ask my colleagues to be mindful one program and $20 billion in another marks.) that this is just a glimpse of the devas- Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I thank program have done great things to im- tation contained in H.R. 2127. my distinguished ranking minority prove the lives of those young people The measure also takes extensive lib- member, the gentleman from Wiscon- and make them productive citizens. erties with respect to authorizing legis- But what has happened every time I sin [Mr. OBEY], for yielding time to me. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong opposi- lation. An unbelievable number of au- have spoken all over this country tion to H.R. 2127, the bill establishing thorizing provisions are contained in about insisting on educational excel- fiscal year 1996 appropriations for the this appropriations bill—ranging from lence? Those who run the programs Departments of Labor, Health and abolishing the Office of the U.S. Sur- say, not face to face but behind my Human Services, and Education. For geon General, to restricting women’s back: We do not have to pay any atten- many years, I have been one of the rights, to gagging political advocacy, tion to you. We know the Congress of members of this subcommittee who to denying worker protections. the United States is going to give us have put this particular bill together. Mr. Chairman, I can understand and more money. We know that every Until now, I have always taken pride in support a balanced approach to ad- President, it does not matter which this bill which our beloved deceased dressing our Nation’s fiscal difficulties. side of the aisle they come from, are chairman, Bill Natcher used to call the But, I cannot support balancing the going to ask for more money, and so we people’s bill. This is the first time that needs of the wealthy on the backs of are going to get more money and we do I have come to the floor opposing the our children, the elderly, and families. not have to worry about excellence. Labor-HHS-Ed appropriations measure. I urge my colleagues to defeat H.R. And what a disadvantage we have done I oppose H.R. 2127 because of the dev- 2127. to disadvantaged children in this coun- astating physical, social, and economic b 1400 try in Head Start in many instances burden it places on the backs of our Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 and in chapter 1 in many instances. children, the elderly, and hard working minutes to the gentlewoman from What we are saying with this slight families. decrease is, now is the time to step Neverthess, I want to acknowledge Maryland [Mrs. MORELLA]. forth and offer programs that are based the leadership and fairness of our dis- Mrs. MORELLA. Mr. Chairman, I on quality, that offer programs that tinguished subcommittee chairman, would like to engage in a colloquy with the chairman of the subcommittee. will show us that in their third year, the gentleman from Illinois, Mr. JOHN Mr. Chairman, I would like to express fourth year, fifth year of school, they PORTER, as well as the leadership of the have made dramatic increases and the distinguished ranking member, Mr. to the gentleman my concern over the defunding of the Office of Emergency Head Start has remained. The only DAVID OBEY of Wisconsin. studies we have to show that we have The 602(B) allocation for this bill is Preparedness. As we know, this Office moved forward in these areas are in $9 billion, or 13 percent, below the fis- is charged under the Presidential deci- community college towns, where the cal year 1995 allocation. While some of sion document, NSC–39, to coordinate mentors are college students who are the cuts can be justified, far too many the health and medical response of the out there doing what we should have of them will create critical quality of Federal Government in support of been doing in Head Start and what we life problems for the people for whom State and local governments in the should have been doing in many of the this bill is intended. aftermath of terrorist acts involving chapter 1 programs. That is teaching Within the Department of Labor ac- chemical and biological agents. The Of- parenting skills and improving the lit- count, in overall discretionary pro- fice is also responsible for coordinating eracy skills of the parents so when the grams, funding is cut 24 percent, or $2.7 the Public Health Service interagency child goes home from a Head Start or a billion, below the fiscal year 1995 ap- plans and activities to prepare for and chapter 1 experience, they have some- propriation level. More specifically, respond to the consequences of natural one to help them to improve, not just funding for summer jobs is eliminated, disasters and terrorism, with particu- a couple hours they may be in a school denying jobs to over 600,000 young peo- lar emphasis on weapons of mass de- setting. ple who need and want to work. The struction. So I am not ashamed that I am one $446 million cut in the dislocated work- Since 1992, the Office has responded who has asked us to slow down tempo- ers program will deny re-employment to Hurricane Andrew, the Midwest rarily these increases until we get the services to hundreds of thousands of flood, the Southeast flood, the kind of quality that will give disadvan- laid-off workers. Northridge earthquake, and the Okla- taged students an opportunity to be ad- With the Department of Health and homa City bombing. vantaged. In many instances, that is Human Services account, funding for Mr. Chairman, I express this concern not happening today. the LIHEAP is eliminated. The $55 mil- with the image of a rescue worker car- Very few Members have spoken out, lion, or over 50 percent cut in the rying a small child from the wreckage in all of these years of $40 billion of Healthy Start Program means that and devastation of the Oklahoma City spending in the one program and $20 over 1 million women would be denied bombing. No matter how much we wish billion in the other. All we have ever critical prenatal health care. Funding to put this terrible tragedy behind us, heard about is, we need more money for family planning is completely it is indelibly etched in our minds, and because we are not covering enough eliminated. serves as a grim part of our country’s people; we should be covering more. I Within the Department of Education history. I feel very strongly that this have always said, covering them with account, funding is cut 16 percent, or $4 Office should continue its good work. August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8203 Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, will the tinue to yield; yes, it is our intention the Federal budget. If that is all that gentlewoman yield? to fund the continuation costs of the was going on here, then the bill would Mrs. MORELLA. I yield to the gen- DOD research project. I agree it is an be at least understandable, but this de- tleman from Illinois. important research and treatment pro- bate is about priorities within the Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I would gram and should be continued. budget limitations, as I mentioned ear- tell the gentlewoman that our sub- Mrs. MORELLA. I thank the gen- lier. committee is fully aware of the impor- tleman very much for his leadership in Mr. Chairman, while recognizing the tant work performed by the men and this regard an I reiterate my thanks to need for us to have the strongest pos- women of the Office of Emergency Pre- the gentleman from Florida [Mr. sible defense, it is hard to understand paredness. The subcommittee’s action YOUNG]. why we are moving more than $5 bil- is in no way a devaluing of their efforts Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 lion more into the defense and military and of the need to respond to national minutes and 10 seconds to the distin- construction projects, funds that were emergencies. The subcommittee only guished gentlewoman from California not even requested. The Republicans removed the Office as a line item in the [Ms. PELOSI], a member of the sub- have decided to focus the drastic cuts agency’s budget. The Secretary of committee. on the Labor-HHS-Education and VA- Health and Human Services still has Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I thank HUD bills. Even if the defense-related the discretion to keep this operation our ranking member for yielding time programs were frozen rather than tak- functioning if she deems it a priority. to me, and also for his leadership on ing the same proportional hit as other Mrs. MORELLA. Mr. Chairman, I this legislation. bills, we would have about $4 billion thank the gentleman very much for Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to more for this bill, enough to make it a that clarification. I would also like to the bill, with the greatest respect for much better bill. engage the chairman in a colloquy with our colleague, the chairman of the sub- I remind our colleagues that this bill my colleague, the gentleman from Vir- committee, the gentleman from Illi- takes a hit of $10 billion. We go from ginia [Mr. DAVIS]. nois [Mr. PORTER], but I oppose the bill $70 billion to $60 billion. On top of all of Mr. DAVIS. Mr. Chairman, will the and hope that all of our colleagues will this, the Republican leadership is in- gentlewoman yield? oppose it, because it is fundamentally sisting on a tax break for the wealthi- Mrs. MORELLA. I yield to the gen- flawed and must be rewritten. est Americans, putting even more pres- tleman from Virginia. Mr. Chairman, this is a sad day for sure on the most defenseless in our Mr. DAVIS. I thank the gentlewoman the Congress, and, therefore, for the population. We want to give more for yielding to me, Mr. Chairman. country. It has always been a great money to defense and take money from I applaud the leadership of the chair- privilege to serve on the Subcommittee the defenseless. I think it is wrong. man of the committee and the assist- on Labor, Health and Human Services, I think the bill started out bad, it ance of the chairman of the Committee and Education of the Committee on was a very dark night, as our ranking on National Security, the gentleman Appropriations, a place where a bill is member, the gentleman from Wiscon- from Florida, BILL YOUNG, in continu- developed to provide the funds and di- sin [Mr. OBEY] mentioned, in the dark ing funding for the DOT extramural rections for America’s future. of night when this bill came out of sub- AIDS program in the Labor-Health and Others have referenced the gen- committee. then it got even worse as it Human Services-Education appropria- tleman from Kentucky, Mr. Natcher, moved through 3 days of full commit- tions bill. As we know, the Army Re- and, I am sure they will, Mr. Conte, but tee markup. By adopting five amend- search and Development Command was as Chairman Natcher would always ments which were part of the issues originally tasked by Congress in 1996 as say, ‘‘If you educate your children and alert of the Christian Coalition, the lead DOD command for HIV–AIDS re- take care of the health of your people, bill became worse. Those included at- search. This research has focused on you will live in the strongest country tempting to gag public interest advo- the practical aspects of screening, pre- in the world.’’ Mr. Conte agreed. That cacy, limiting further a woman’s right vention, and early-stage treatment af- definition of strength is one that we to choose, prohibiting human embryo fecting military readiness and national should keep before us as we establish research, interfering with the private security. The Army Medical Corps has budget priorities in this Congress. sector’s accreditation of graduate med- a long history of battling infections Mr. Chairman, our budget should be a ical education, and eliminating, if diseases that threaten military person- statement of our national values, and Members can imagine this, Mr. Chair- nel, and the success of the Army’s pro- our national values should measure our man, title X, family planning. In doing gram has been due largely to the strength, not only in our military that, the majority has made a bad bill unique character of military life. might, which is very important to our terrible. Mrs. MORELLA. Reclaiming my country, but also in the health, edu- time, Mr. Chairman, I also want to cation, and well-being, as Mr. Natcher Mr. Chairman, I urge my colleagues thank the chairman of the committee said, of our people. to vote against this most unfortunate for so wisely continuing this program. While there was often controversy legislation. I also want to thank the gentleman over the Hyde amendment, issues like Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 41⁄2 from Florida [Mr. YOUNG] for his assist- the Hyde amendment, in the past there minutes to the distinguished gentle- ance. was no question about the broad bipar- woman from New York [Mrs. LOWEY]. Mr. Chairman, it is our understand- tisan support for the programs in this Mrs. LOWEY. Mr. Chairman, I want ing that the Army is interested in only bill. For many years, our subcommit- to say at the outset that I have great focusing research on finding a vaccine tee operated on the basis of consensus, respect for the chairman of the com- for HIV–AIDS. However, with the 10- to without even taking a vote. Both par- mittee, and we have worked together 20-year validation period for a suitable ties worked constructively to fashion a on many of the issues in this bill, and vaccine, the importance of maintaining truly bipartisan statement of priorities also, of course, for the ranking minor- a vigorous research treatment program for these programs. The bill was a uni- ity on this committee. I understand for those military personnel who are fying factor between our two parties in the terrible choices that our chairman already infected is obvious. this Congress. and our ranking minority had to face I would ask the chairman of the com- All that has changed. This bill has with us, because this bill, the bill that mittee, is it his intention that the $25 become an ideological battleground. It really reflects the priorities of this Na- million provided for DOD AIDS re- has driven a wedge into this Congress, tion, was cut $10 billion. Therefore, al- search in the bill is to continue the because it declares war on American though I am rising in strong opposition natural history cohort and the domes- workers, it erodes decades of progress to the bill, it has no reflection on the tic clinical studies, including the for women, it declares war on edu- chairman’s commitment to some of the chemotherapeutic program and the im- cation, it targets for punishment the issues we face. mune reconstitution program? most vulnerable people in America. Mr. Chairman, this piece of legisla- Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, if the Some argue that this bill is just part tion has always been called the peo- gentlewoman from Maryland will con- of the pain associated with balancing ple’s bill, but today the people will find H 8204 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 out whether Congress truly under- made to finance the Republicans’ pro- Federal Government has spent that I stands their needs and the needs of posal to provide a tax cut for the most have inherited. The interest on that their families. They will find out how privileged, and to build new weapons debt amounts to $5,264 a year. It takes serious we are about making invest- that the Pentagon did not even ask for. $439 a month for my family to pay for ments in our most precious resource, As I sat in committee and sub- the interest on the national debt. our children. The people of this Nation committee, Mr. Chairman, two things Mr. Chairman, next year, and in 2 will learn whether it matters to Con- were very clear: first, this bill was years, we are going to spend more gress if elderly Americans have the deeply flawed from the start, because it money on interest on the national de- means to heat their homes in the win- was a direct outgrowth of mixed-up Re- bate than we do for the entire national ter and cool them in the 100-degree publican budget priorities. We need to defense. That is insane, and it makes summer heat, or we are going to just go back to scratch. We need to fix this no sense. And that is what the real de- stand by when elderly people lose their bill. bate is about today, is the fact that we lives; 100, 200, 300, 400, 500. These are Then the bill was made even worse as have a debt that we need to clear up people, real people with families. They the Christian Coalition sent their legis- and move to some fiscal sanity in our will discover if we are truly committed lative language and had everyone duti- process. to giving young people with little hope fully follow it, passed that legislative Mr. Chairman, solving this process and laid-off workers with few opportu- language, passed that special interest does not mean 7 years of pain and sac- nities the means to find a job. language that hurts workers and flies rifice. Far from it. If we can balance Today the American people will find in the face of basic constitutional the budget in 7 years, Alan Greenspan out whether Congress is willing to dis- rights. says, that will lead to a 2-percent re- regard our children and make unprece- Mr. Chairman, I cannot support this duction in interest rates. Let me ex- dented cuts in education, cuts which bill. Let us send it back and do it right. plain what a 2-percent reduction in in- will deprive local schools of billions of Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I am terest rates might mean. dollars and hardworking college stu- pleased to yield 5 minutes to one of the For a family having a $75,000 mort- dents of the aid they need to have a new and very able members of our sub- gage, if they refinance it or get a new shot at the American dream. committee, the gentleman from Flor- home, that is $100 a month less that Mr. Chairman, as a mother of three ida [Mr. MILLER]. they have to spend on that $75,000 and a former PTA president, I can tell mortgage. For small business, that is b 1415 the Members that this bill will have a going to give an incentive for them to devastating impact on America’s chil- Mr. MILLER of Florida. Mr. Chair- invest more, to create jobs, and to im- dren and our community schools. Let man, I rise today to put this bill in its prove our economy. us not make any mistake about it, this proper context. The 104th Congress is By balancing this budget and moving bill will lead to increased local prop- in the midst of the most important de- on that glide path, we are going to erty taxes, because our mothers, our bate about America’s domestic future stimulate the economy and help re- parents, will not stand for their chil- since the New Deal. The debate is not store the American dream. We need to dren not having the best education about accounting numbers and line stop spending more money here in they can. Therefore, if we cut, guess items, although that is what much of Washington. where it is going to come from? Cut the public will hear in this debate. In Mr. Chairman, in 1950, the average here, pay at the other end. fact, at its core, the debate is about American family spent 5 percent of We will also vote on whether to force what kind of America we want to be in their wages in Federal taxes. Now we poor women who are the victims of the 21st century. are spending 24 percent to send to rape and incest to carry those preg- Mr. Chairman, America is at a cross- Washington for a bloated Federal Gov- nancies to term. We will vote to elimi- roads. As we close the 20th century, we ernment. Unless we cut spending and nate an unprecedented intrusion in this are faced with one great battle. The eliminate the deficit, the tax burden bill into medical school curriculum American people have defeated fascism will continue to grow. which will endanger the health of and communism and spread democracy Mr. Chairman, the President has of- women. We will have an opportunity to around the world. Now we are faced fered an alternative vision of America restore critically needed family plan- with the threat of the national debt. in the 21st century: $200 billion deficits ning funds. The challenge is to leave our children a as far as the eye can see. He says the It is shameful, and I am embarrassed legacy of both peace and prosperity. We problem is to big and we just cannot to serve on this committee where I was must ensure that the American dream deal with it right now. Now, not only is once so proud, to be at a place in his- lives on. An America that enters the that a defeatist attitude, it is counter- tory where we are zeroing out family 21st century free from deficits will be a productive. The job of balancing the planning funds. Make no mistake about strong America that has resources to budget does not magically get easier a it, that is exactly what is happening in meet its obligations for Social Secu- decade from now. In fact, it grows this bill. Members are going to hear all rity and Medicare and to the American exponentially more difficult. kinds of alibis, but we are zeroing out taxpayer. That is what this debate is First of all, the more debt we build family planning funds. about. We are making the tough up, the more interest rates payments Yes, I am pleased that the increases choices to start on a glide path to a will grow. In other words, we lock in at the NIH were not on the Christian balanced budget. more and more spending. But more im- Coalition agenda. I am pleased that im- The most obscene thing we have done portantly, starting in the year 2008, the portant investments, investments in in this Congress is to build up these first of the baby boom generation be- breast cancer research will continue. I horrendous deficits and the national gins to retire, and the costs of Social am pleased that the CDC breast and debt. Let me put in perspective what Security and the Medicare programs cervical cancer screening program is this is. The national debt is $4.9 tril- explode. How can we justify putting off still alive. But this bill takes women lion. Now, if you divide that by the the day of reckoning on this budget? backward. The GOP leadership has population of the United States, that Mr. Chairman, I believe this is a proudly touted its plan to reduce the amounts to $18,800 for every man, moral issue. We all know the challenge deficit. woman, and child in the United States; we face. The facts are the facts. We Today we are seeing, Mr. Chairman, $18,800 for every man, woman, and have a moral obligation to meet this we are seeing what that plan will child. challenge now, and we know the prob- mean, what GOP priorities really are. We have a Congresswoman on the Re- lem becomes virtually insurmountable This bill cuts spending, but it does it publican side who is going to have a in 10 to 15 years. If we fail, we will have on the backs of average Americans and baby next year. When that child is failed the test of our time. on the backs of the Nation’s most vul- born, that child immediately inherits Mr. Chairman, this bill is fair, and nerable citizens. These cuts in edu- an $18,800 debt. My wife and I, we have spent $60 billion on some of the most cation, training, student loans, low-in- two children. For a family of four, that important programs in the Federal come energy assistance, are being means I have a $75,000 debt that the Government. The cruelest thing we can August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8205 do for the young people today and for cently ‘‘I hope to see the day when national corporations is waste. Special future generations is keep building up ** * we won’t have any public schools. tax loopholes for billionaire expatri- the debt. We must get this deficit The churches will have taken them ates are waste. The Republican leaders under control and get our fiscal house over again and Christians will be run- in this House can never seem to find in order. This bill makes a significant ning them. What a happy day that will waste in any program that helps their down payment on a balanced budget. It be.’’ These cuts in this bill will have wealthy campaign contributors; they is some of the tough choices we are Falwell dancing in his pulpit. can only find waste in programs that going to have to make in the appro- Mr. Chairman, provisions in the bill help the working families of this Na- priations process. That is the most im- reflect promotion of a sinister, cynical tion. portant issue we are facing, balancing agenda that is out of sync with main- Mr. Chairman, balancing the budget the national debt, and the moral and stream Americans. In the middle of the is about making choices. This bill economic imperative of our time, and night, Republicans rammed through makes bad choices, choices that will this bill meets that challenge. crippling revisions in job safety, pen- hurt children, hurt seniors, and hurt Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 sion, and labor laws. They turned the working families, all to fund a tax cut minutes to the distinguished gen- appropriations process into a half-way to the wealthiest Americans. Vote tleman from Missouri [Mr. CLAY], the house for those unscrupulous business against this bill. ranking member of the Committee on people who would criminally expose Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 Economic and Educational Opportuni- their work force to unsafe and minutes to our colleague, the very able ties. unhealthy working conditions. gentleman from Texas [Mr. BONILLA]. (Mr. CLAY asked and was given per- Mr. Chairman, this is a critical time Mr. BONILLA. I thank the chairman mission to revise and extend his re- in our Nation’s history, a time to bet- for yielding time to me. marks.) ter equip our Nation to compete in the Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. PORTER] has done so much Mr. CLAY. Mr. Chairman, I rise to world economy; a time to expand, not work on this bill and has produced a condemn this bill as the meanest, most cut, job training opportunities for dis- bill that I am strongly supporting. This vicious, most inhumane appropriations placed workers; a time to expand, not is a proud day for America, to be able bill I have seen during my long career cut, Head Start; a time to expand, not to take one appropriations bill, cut $9 in the Congress. I implore my col- cut, college financial aid. This is no billion out of it, and still preserve good leagues, on both sides of the aisle, to time to destroy the bridges to prosper- programs in this country, like Head reject this cruel legislation and send it ity and opportunity. Start, community and migrant health back to the Appropriations Committee Mr. Chairman, in the final analysis care centers, TRIO, and programs like with an instruction to produce a much this bill is so bad it is beyond repair, the National Institutes of Health. more compassionate and fair-minded and I urge my colleagues to vote Imagine that. bill. against it. We are hearing a lot of Members Mr. Chairman, once there was a time, Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 come forward today with the same old when Democrats and Republicans minutes to the distinguished gentle- song and dance that we have cut edu- worked together to expand access to woman from Connecticut [Ms. cation to give a tax cut to the rich. education. Once there was a time when DELAURO]. Other days before today we have heard Democrats and Republicans supported Ms. DELAURO. Mr. Chairman, I rise them say that we are trying to help the efforts to help children raised in poor in strong opposition to this legislation military to provide tax cuts at the ex- communities get a head start in life. which attacks children, seniors and pense of the poor, and we are providing Once there was a time when Democrats working families to pay for a tax cut tax cuts for the rich to cut volunteers and Republicans believed that the role for the wealthy. I call it the American in the park. You name it, everything is of Government was to protect the Dream Destruction Act. being tagged for the same reason, and weak—from unsafe working conditions, The American Dream promises our we all know that this is not true. These oppressive employers, and dishonest people that if you work hard, if you are all lies that are just continuously pension managers. play by the rules, this country will pro- spread to try to stop the agenda that That time has passed. To the Repub- vide you with opportunity and with se- the American people want us to move lican leadership in this House, people curity. This bill betrays that promise. forward. do not matter, profits do. To the Re- It betrays the promise of educational So instead, let us talk about the publican leadership, the role of Govern- opportunity by cutting funding for edu- truth. In the dark of the night, there ment now is to enhance the privileged cation, from Head Start to safe and was an attempted midnight massacre and the powerful at the expense of the drug-free schools. It betrays the prom- by the opposition when Member after poor. ise of opportunity for our workers by Member offered amendments to cut Mr. Chairman, the corporations and cutting crucial health and safety pro- Medicaid for poor States. However, individuals unfairly enriched by this tections that help them on their job, today, when the cameras are on and bill read like Who’s Who among For- and by cutting retraining, and that the lights are shining and C–SPAN is tune 500. The Republicans all but help could be provided to them if they broadcasting, there will not be a single placed an ad in the Wall Street Journal lose that job. Member to come forward and offer an that reads: ‘‘This House is for sale! This bill also betrays the promise of amendment like that to see what real- And, if you’ve got a gripe with OSHA security for our seniors by cutting en- ly happened as this bill was being let the Republicans know; they’ll gut ergy assistance and nutrition programs drafted. Why is this happening? Be- funding for OSHA inspectors and that help seniors to pay for their heat- cause they are afraid that the Amer- render the agency impotent.’’ ing bills and to stay healthy. ican people may see them saying one The Republicans are now abusing the Mr. Chairman, my colleagues from thing and doing another, and really appropriations process to carry out the across the aisle say that they are only discover the truth about what is going political agenda of the radical right. making these cuts to balance the budg- on around here. This bill is polluted with the legisla- et. They would like you to believe that Mr. Chairman, this bill makes tough tive wish list of the Christian Coali- this is a shared sacrifice with a noble choices. The gentleman from Illinois tion. Through massive, unconscionable purpose. But folks, this is not a shared [Mr. PORTER], the chairman of the sub- cuts in education, public education is sacrifice, and there is nothing noble in committee, has brought this House a being seriously crippled. These cuts asking our most vulnerable citizens to bill which reflects responsive and support the thinking of religious ex- pay for a tax break for the wealthiest thoughtful decisions to support na- tremists. Ralph Reed of the Christian citizens. There is nothing noble in tional priorities, not parochial prior- Coalition has said ‘‘We should de-fed- that. It is amoral. ities, and to reduce the deficit by cut- eralize education policy. * * * Our top The American people want us to cut ting lower priority and duplicative pro- legislative priority at the Christian Co- waste, but unneeded tax subsidies to grams. alition is to abolish the Department of giant corporations are wasteful. Tax- Mr. Chairman, no matter how you Education.’’ And, Jerry Falwell said re- payer-funded advertising for multi- slice this bill, we have over $60 billion H 8206 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 of discretionary spending in this bill. a bill that is the result of many tough with 29 or so misguided souls on my For some Members, it is never enough. decisions. side of the aisle mistakenly joining If Members want to take pot shots at Mr. Chairman, I urge my colleagues them, the deficit went from $55 billion this bill, go right ahead. We do not to support this bill. not to zero, as Ronald Reagan prom- claim to be perfect. We know that ad- Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- ised, but to $185 billion. justments can be made to improve on self 3 minutes. Mr. Chairman, If the gentleman from what we are doing. But we are trying Mr. Chairman I yield myself this Texas cannot get his story straight the best we can as a Republican major- time to answer the nonsense that I just about what happened in subcommittee, ity to make the tough choices nec- heard from the gentleman from Texas he should at least get history straight. essary that the American people are [Mr. BONILLA]. The gentleman from Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 calling for. Texas is objecting to the fact that we minutes to the distinguished gentle- Mr. Chairman, with over $60 billion are not offering the amendments on woman from Hawaii [Mrs. MINK]. in discretionary spending, let me give the House floor that we offered in the (Mrs. MINK of Hawaii asked and was you two examples of how much $1 bil- subcommittee. The answer is, we can- given permission to revise and extend lion is. One billion seconds ago this not do that because the rules of the her remarks.) country was in the middle of the Bay of House prevent that kind of en bloc Mrs. MINK of Hawaii. Mr. Chairman, Pigs. One billion minutes ago the world transfer. I rise today in strong opposition to the went from BC to AD on a calendar. In I would be happy to do that if the Labor, Health and Human Services, this bill we have over 60 of those bil- gentleman wanted to vote on them, but and Education appropriation. This bill lions. Again, for some Members, that is he does not want to. I do not blame the demonstrates the most significant dif- not enough; it is never enough. gentleman for being sensitive on the ference between the Democrats and the If Members would not support a re- issue of surplus Medicaid compensation Republicans. We seek to invest in the scissions bill that cut only 1 percent of in some States. people of this Nation, they seek to de- Federal spending this year that we pro- To correct the gentleman, we did not stroy that investment, not only posed earlier this year, I do not antici- cut Medicare. What we tried to do is through elimination and cutting of pate support from Members when we take into account the fact that my programs, which this bill does with want to cut 13 percent out of a spend- State winds up getting from the Feds unmeasured precedent, but by using ing bill. If Members would not support only 55 cents out of every dollar for the this bill to push through their legisla- a rescissions bill that restored some cost of dealing with a Medicaid pa- tive agenda to weaken the rights of fiscal sanity, they will not support a tient. Texas only gets from the Federal workers, women, and the most vulner- bill that tries to cut and consolidate Government 64 cents out of every dol- able in our Nation. Never before have 163 Federal employment training pro- lar for the cost of dealing with a Medic- we seen such a systematic abuse of the grams, 266 Federal youth at-risk pro- aid patient, but the State of Louisiana legislative process in order to get the grams, 90 Federal early childhood pro- gets 75 cents out of every dollar. agenda of the majority passed. grams, 340 Federal families and chil- The gentleman from Texas consist- At every turn this bill attacks long- dren’s programs, and 86 Federal teach- ently, in the subcommittee, voted to held rights and protections for people ers training programs. take money out of his own State of in this country including provisions Texas and give it to Louisiana, because which weaken the rights of workers, b 1430 he voted against amendment after takes away first-amendment rights of How much is enough? It is never amendment to try to equalize the for- the people who work through nonprofit enough for the opposition. mula between States. agencies, eliminates reproductive I guess the dollar figure like that is So, Mr. Chairman, the gentleman rights for low-income women, even if whatever it takes to bow down to those voluntarily, in his own committee, they were raped or a victim of incest, special interest liberal groups. voted to give away from the State of and weakens enforcement of equity for Members will make all kinds of com- Texas $66 million for summer jobs. He women in intercollegiate sports. plaints against this bill, some based on voted to take away $21 million from A legislative rider in this bill at- facts and some are not based on facts. Texas for dislocated worker training. tempts to weaken the enforcement of Either way, I am reminded of the old He voted to take away $29 million title IX of the Education Act Amend- saying that says, ‘‘It takes a carpenter under Goals 2000. He voted to take ment of 1972. Title IX is the law which to build a barn, but just one jackass away almost $100 million from Texas prohibits sex discrimination in feder- can knock it down.’’ under title I, because he insisted on ally funded educational institutions. There is a new way of thinking in seeing to it that it kept going to States As one of the coauthors of this legisla- Congress. After 40 years of the same like Louisiana. I do not blame the gen- tion I am proud of title IX and its suc- old ‘‘throw money at the problem and tleman for being sensitive on that cess in protecting equal rights for pose for holy pictures,’’ let us have just issue. women in education and in increasing 1 year to try it our way. What do my I would also make one additional intercollegiate athletic opportunities colleagues say? Give us a chance to do point. He said ‘‘Let us have it our way for women. I am deeply disturbed that it one year our way and see what hap- for a year.’’ The reason we have gotten the Appropriations Committee would pens. in this debt is because Ronald Reagan allow a provision in their bill which The President made a statement last came into office and told us if we just circumvents the legislative process, week saying that he would not allow passed his budget in 1981, that in 4 and is clearly intended to weaken the our people to be sacrificed for the sake years we could cut taxes, we could dou- enforcement of title IX. of political ideology. I agree with him. ble military spending, and still balance The rider prohibits the Department Our people are the taxpayers of this the budget. of Education Office of Civil Rights country that sent us here last Novem- Mr. Chairman, this chart dem- from enforcing title IX after December ber to get our fiscal house in order. onstrates the promise versus what hap- 31, 1995, unless the Department has is- We must reject those who are slaves pened. These bars demonstrate that in sued objective policy guidance on com- to the National Education Association, 1981, President Reagan said: Pass our plying with title IX in the area of slaves to the American Bar Associa- package, the deficit will go down from intercollegiate sports. tion, and other special interest groups, what was then $55 billion to zero over 4 While on its face this provision may seem and others who always want more years’ time. harmlessÐa simple request for clarification on money, more money, more money, Guess what? The Congress did it the how to comply with title IXÐdo not be fooled. more money, without ever spending gentleman’s way. The Congress swal- This provision pushed by opponents of title IX their own money. lowed the Reagan budget and guess is clearly an attempt to force the Office of Civil So, Mr. Chairman, if my colleagues what. We only missed the deficit target Rights to weaken its enforcement standards, favor this new philosophy that we are by $185 billion, because under the poli- because of a misperception that men's sports bringing forth, I ask them to please cies rammed through this place by the are being hurt by overly aggressive enforce- support this bill. It is a good bill. It is party of the gentleman from Texas, ment of title IX. August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8207 This is simply not true. Since the passage of Political activity is defined as including pub- other term in the next few years, be- title IX, for every new dollar spent on women's lishing and distributing statements in any politi- cause the decisions will only get tough- sports, two new dollars have been spent on cal campaign, or any judicial litigation in which er. It is a choice: Cut spending now or men's sports. The standards schools must Federal, State, or local governments are par- visit ruin upon our children with a meet under title IX are minimal. A school sim- ties, or contributing funds to any organization bankrupt Federal Government and a ply has to show that it is improving it's women whose expenses in political advocacy ex- Federal Government that, according to athletic program or that it is meeting the needs ceeded 15 percent of its total expenditures. figures released by the Clinton admin- and abilities of its women students in order to This title of the bill is totally and completely istration, would insist upon taking 83 be in compliance with the law. I would argue unconstitutional. It is a blatant unlawful effort cents out of every dollar that our chil- that these standards are far too lenient. to stifle dissent and advocacy. It is contrary to dren make in their future, over their The Department of Education opposes this basic principles of our democracy. It is a gag lifetimes, in the amount of taxes they language because it is unnecessary and law. It must be defeated. have to pay if we do not get spending micromanaging the Department, the NCAA Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 under control, if we do not balance the does not like this language, colleges and uni- minutes to the gentleman from Okla- budget. versities think this language goes too far, and homa [Mr. ISTOOK], another able mem- The overall spending reductions in most importantly the women of America do not ber of our subcommittee. this bill, Mr. Chairman, are only 11 per- want this language because they know it is an Mr. ISTOOK. Mr. Chairman, the pub- cent. Yet, we are told it will be the attempt to turn back the progress we have lic is demanding that the Congress re- ruin of American civilization. That is made toward equity in intercollegiate sports. duce Federal spending. The message hogwash, and people know it. In addition to title IX, this bill is also used to from the elections was clear, the con- What my colleagues on the other side eliminate other rights for womenÐreproductive stant messages we receive from our of the aisle want is a system of more rights. Legislative language prohibits Medicaid constituents are clear; they are de- personal dependency upon Government from paying for abortions for low-income manding that we do so. They realize bureaucracy. I disagree with them on women, even women who have been raped or that we have built a gigantic Govern- that. I believe the American people dis- victims of incest. This provision denies women ment bureaucracy of social programs agree with them. their constitutional right to reproductive free- and Government handouts that are I applaud what the gentleman from dom. cruel. They are cruel because they are Illinois [Mr. PORTER] has done on this. The bill also attacks workers rights. Limita- killers of initiative, killers of self-reli- The gentleman has things in this bill tions on the National Labor Relations Board's ance, and destroyers of the family. that frankly he does not want to do. enforcement mechanisms in resolving a labor Do the American people lack compas- The gentleman has programs that he dispute means that companies can continue to sion because they want to bring down likes, that he thinks are good pro- commit unfair labor practices including firing of the size of Government? Of course not. grams. Yet, for the good of the entire workers, strong arm tactics to influence the Do Members of Congress, whether they country, he has been willing to put outcome of the dispute, efforts to prevent em- be on this side of the aisle or on that them forward to reduce and even zero ployees from organizing a union or issue ille- side of the aisle, lack compassion be- out programs that he individually likes gal bargaining demands, while NLRB is re- cause they see the necessity to reduce because he recognizes the scale of the viewing a case. Government spending and to do it in problem. I applaud the fashion which The bill prohibits the enforcement of a child social programs? Of course not. the gentleman from Illinois has han- labor law which protects children under 18 Mr. Chairman, we all prove our indi- dled it, the fairness to all sides on the from injury and death from cardboard and vidual compassion by what we do with issues. paper balers and halts efforts to protect the our own time, our own efforts and our I applaud the gentleman from Louisi- health of workers who work with computers individual dollars. We do not prove we ana [Mr. LIVINGSTON], chairman of the and other office machinery by prohibiting the have compassion by reaching into the full committee, and I note, for the ben- implementation of OSHA's ergonomics stand- wallets of the American taxpayers and efit of the gentleman from Wisconsin ards. extracting, under force of law through [Mr. OBEY], the very charts that he has Prohibition of the Executive order on striker the tax system, more and more money. had published in the report show that replacement is simply a slap in the face to the That proves that we believe in taking the State of Louisiana will have almost workers of this Nation. It is a clear indication from other people, not that we have $100 million less coming to it in Fed- that the majority party does not believe in personal compassion. eral spending under the bill already. In workers' right to organize and fight for their Compassion is measured by what we fact, if my rough figures are correct, I rights through a union. do individually and what we help peo- believe Louisiana takes a greater dol- I am alarmed by the inclusion in this appro- ple to be able to do for themselves, not lar hit than the State of Wisconsin priations bill of 12 pages which strip away indi- with the Government programs that does under this bill. vidual rights guaranteed to each and every destroy initiative, that have brought Mr. Chairman, that is not the chair- one of us to petition our government for any down this country, that have generated man of the Committee on Appropria- reason whatsoever. Title VI of this bill states the national debt that will be the ruin tions trying to protect people back that you cannot get any Federal funds if you of the next generation of our children home; it is the chairman working for participate in political advocacy. and our grandchildren, if we do not the common good of the entire coun- This bill if passed would prohibit any person bring spending under control and do it try, and I applaud those efforts. who received a Federal grant under any law, now. It is tough, but it is going to get not just this act, from speaking out on any Mr. Chairman, this bill, compared to tougher. This bill is important toward matter relating to laws whether, State, Fed- the task before us, is easy. The spend- balancing the budget, toward correct- eral, or local. The prohibition against political ing reductions in this bill are about ing mistakes that have been made in advocacy which includes attempts to influence $6.5 billion below what was spent last the growth of the Federal bureaucracy legislation or agency action explicitly prohibits year and about $10 or $11 billion below and the duplication. communication with legislators and their staffs. what the President wanted to spend. Mr. Chairman, I certainly urge sup- The definition of ``grantee'' includes the entire But even after the reductions are port of this entire bill. membership of the organization who are ex- made, the budget will still be almost Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 plicitly prohibited from communicating with leg- $200 billion out of balance in the next minutes to the distinguished gen- islators or urging others to do so. fiscal year. tleman from Texas [Mr. COLEMAN]. This bill disqualifies anyone from receiving a Even after these cuts that some peo- (Mr. COLEMAN asked and was given Federal grant if for 5 previous years it used ple think will make the sky fall, it is permission to revise and extend his re- funds in excess of the allowed threshold. still going to take years and years of marks.) Further anyone receiving Federal grant effort to be able to meet our target of Mr. COLEMAN. Mr. Chairman, first money cannot spend it on the purchase of balancing the budget by the year 2002. of all, President Clinton 2 weeks ago goods and services from anyone who in the Mr. Chairman, any Member who said that he would veto this bill be- previous year spent money on political advo- thinks that this bill contains tough de- cause the Republicans have approved cacy in excess of the allowed limit. cisions should not come back for an- $36 billion in cuts in education and H 8208 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 training over 7 years. In contrast, the have approved cuts that would deny Head have tax cuts, you just lessen the President’s proposal balances the budg- Start to 180,000 children nationwide and amount of money that comes into the et while increasing investment in edu- 12,512 children in Texas in 2002 compared to government. The government then cation and training by $40 billion over 1995. shrinks to match its budget, and we that same 7 years. Improving basic and advanced skills: Presi- have less government, less intrusion, In my State of Texas, Republican dent Clinton's budget completely protects title and less waste. cuts of $2.5 billion will harm working I, which helps students from disadvantaged Another way is to cut spending in the families. The gentleman from Okla- backgrounds with reading, writing, mathe- true sense of the word, and that is what homa [Mr. ISTOOK] used the term ‘‘hog- matics, and advanced skills. Republicans we are doing to the tune of $9 billion in wash.’’ I agree with him. would cut funding by $1.1 billion in 1996, de- this bill. I think it is a credit to what Statements of the chairman of the nying this crucial assistance to 1.1 million stu- the committee has done rather than a Committee on Appropriations seem to dents nationwide and 99,600 students in criticism, seeing the criticism we have indicate that he believes that the phi- Texas. gotten. losophy here is one of socialism, if we Goals 2000: With strong bipartisan support, When we went to cut this budget, we do not do what the gentleman from the President created Goals 2000 to help went to the source of the people who Oklahoma [Mr. ISTOOK] and the gen- communities train teachers, encourage hard knew best, where waste was, where the tleman from Louisiana [Mr. LIVING- work by students, and upgrade academic fat was, where the excesses were. We STON] say we need to do. standards in schools. The President calls for went to the agencies. Time after time Second, the gentleman from Penn- almost $700 million in 1996. Republicans after time after time, we asked those sylvania stands up and says we need would eliminate Goals 2000 and deny to agencies, ‘‘Please, do you realize that educational excellence, and the gen- Texas funding affecting as many as 1,428 we have got to cut spending? Do you tleman speaks all over the country schools. realize that if we do not, our country is about it. Safe and drug-free schools: While President going to become insolvent, that we are Clinton strongly supports Safe and Drug-Free not going to be able to take care of our b 1445 Schools, Republicans want to gut the pro- kids, that we are not going to be able We ought to start putting our money gram, which 1,043 out of 1,053 school districts to take care of our elderly people? Will where our mouth is. We are told in this in Texas use to keep crime, violence, and you help us, agency, will you help us bill we are going to downsize and drugs away from students and out of schools. pinpoint where it is we can cut so that streamline. What did you do to Goals Increasing access to college: President Clin- we are laymen, the people sitting here 2000? Eliminated it. ton would increase annual funding for Pell trying to do our job in cutting spend- Ask the Governors around the coun- grants by $3.4 billion and raise the top award ing first, can do it more intelligently?’’ try, both Republican and Democrat, to a record $3,128 by 2002. The GOP would But, no, we were stonewalled. Not a whether or not they think that is a deny Pell grants to 23,400 students in Texas one came in and said, ‘‘This is where good idea. They do not think it is a in 1996 alone, possibly forcing them to drop we should cut.’’ Not a one said, ‘‘We good idea. In fact, they consider it one out of college. want to help you. We want to be a part of the dumbest things they have seen National service: AmeriCorps offers young of this partnership, and we want to do in a long time. people a hand in paying for their education if what is best for America.’’ What was Let me tell you what else you did. they lend a hand to their communities. Repub- said was, ‘‘We have got this program You took 1,043 out of 1,053 school dis- licans would eliminate AmeriCorps and deny going. We have had these programs 30 tricts in my State of Texas that we 3,171 young people in Texas the chance to or 40 years. We own them, and as long have been using a program called Safe serve in 1996. as we can own them, you are not going and Drug Free Schools to prevent Job training: President Clinton's GI bill for to take them away from us, and if you crime, violence, and drugs, to keep America's workers would streamline Federal do, you are going to do it by the hard- drugs away from the kids in the school job training efforts and provide skill grants for est.’’ That is exactly what we have room, you cut that program. You have dislocated and low-income workers. The Presi- done. We have taken $9 billion. We also seen to it that we are not going to dent would provide 800,000 skill grants of up said, ‘‘Okay, we are going to cut here increase any access to college. We are to $2,620 in 1996. Republicans would cut and here and here,’’ all the time asking going to deny programs, in fact, to funding by $68.3 million and would deny train- for help, asking from those people who 23,400 kids in Texas in 1996 alone. You ing opportunities to 28,688 dislocated workers knew where the excesses were. are probably going to force them to in Texas in 1996. Some of the times after we cut the drop out of school. That is what your Summer jobs: Summer jobs are an impor- bills, people would come up to us and idea is about educational excellence, tant first opportunity for many low-income said, ‘‘Oh, if we just knew what you the future for the children of America. youths to get work experience. President Clin- were after, what you were going to do, You are cutting in all the wrong ton wants to finance 600,000 jobs this sum- we would have told you this particular places. That is what is wrong with the mer. Republicans would slash the President's program overseas did not work, or this Republican plan. Each and every one of school-to-work initiative and eliminate summer particular program is really full of ex- you stand up here and says, ‘‘Oh, we jobs, denying jobs to 42,491 Texas youths in cess and waste.’’ All I said a couple of have got to do this.’’ Wrong, wrong, 1996 and 297,437 Texas youths over 7 years. those times was, ‘‘Why didn’t you tell wrong. Read your bill. Compare that to Student loans: While the President strongly us? Why didn’t you tell us?’’ the President’s budget for a balanced supports the student loan program, Repub- All right, then, let us go to the archi- budget in 10 years. Take another look licans want to raise student costs for loans by tects of this. For 30 or 40 years the peo- at it. You are making a big mistake. $10 billion over 7 years. The GOP cuts could ple who controlled this House, this This is a bad bill. raise the cost of college education by as much Congress, put bill after bill after bill in Mr. Chairman, President Clinton said 2 as $2,111 for 260,700 college students and as here so they could have a perfectly weeks ago that he would veto the bill ap- much as $9,424 for 37,200 graduate students good HHS Committee deliberation, and proved by the House Appropriations Commit- in Texas. everybody could go and say, ‘‘Here is tee since it slashes critical education and Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield some more money. Here is what you training initiatives. Republicans have approved 5 minutes to the distinguished gen- can do, because we are afraid to say $36 billion in cuts from education and training tleman from Arkansas [Mr. DICKEY], a ‘no’ to you, and we want immediate over 7 years. In contrast, the President's pro- member of the subcommittee. gratification rather than to do what is posal balances the budget while increasing in- Mr. DICKEY. Mr. Chairman, cut best for the country.’’ vestment in education and training by $40 bil- spending first; that is the mandate We went to those people. What did lion over 7 years. In Texas, Republican cuts of that I got when I came here and not they say? They said with their eyes and $2.5 billion over 7 years would harm working only have I gotten it but it has been re- not with their mouths, ‘‘Yes, we have families: peated time and time and time again got you out there. I know we have got Head Start: President Clinton proposes to by those folks whom I represent. you out there.’’ We could not have got- expand Head Start to serve 50,000 additional One way you can cut spending is by ten back in. We did not have the way, children nationwide by 2002. Republicans tax cuts, and what happens is if you the credibility of anything else to get August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8209 back in. ‘‘We are going to let you do ship comes today in this bill and says, to even afford themselves much less it.’’ ‘‘We are not going to help you.’’ ‘‘But we are going to have to tell pay off the debt. Stonewalled. 150,000 young men and women across We have to look to the future in our So what did we have to do? The buck the United States we cannot help them country. That is the beauty of our Na- stopped. We have to go. Now, as we pay for their college expenses,’’ kids tion. We have children that are in ele- come back in, we are bringing this from working families denied the op- mentary school now who are utilizing thing in in compliance with the com- portunity of an education. chapter I funding to be a better citizen mandment from the American people, The Republican leadership tells us we 10 years from now, 12 years from now. the very people who are the architects have to spend billions of dollars on By voting for this bill today and cut- of this are complaining all the way and wasteful B–2 bombers and then turns ting the funds now instead of expecting criticizing us for doing what they know right around and tells us we cannot af- that investment in those children, we in their hearts, and it shows in their ford Head Start to take kids in the are cutting off our nose to spite our eyes, what is right, and that is we cut toughest family situations in America face. It is amazing that we are willing spending first for the sake of our coun- and give them a fighting chance. to say we want to save our children try in a patriotic way. The Republican leadership tells us we from what they are going to have to We are going to make mistakes be- have to waste millions of dollars on pay, and yet we are cutting public edu- cause the deck is stacked against us. star wars, a welfare program for de- cation funding and we are cutting stu- Those of us who want this, the deck is fense contractors. dent loans. Then they come to us today and say, stacked up here against us. We are Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 11⁄2 going to make mistakes, so what we ‘‘We are going to have to cut minutes to the gentleman from Califor- have to do now is do the best we can LIHEAP,’’ the program that provides nia [Mr. BECERRA]. conscientiously, do the best we can to some assistance to the poorest, usually (Mr. BECERRA asked and was given cut spending, to be obedient to the elderly, who are trying to survive in permission to revise and extend his re- mandate from the American people and the cold of winter and in the heat of marks.) then, when things are calmed down, go summer. Mr. BECERRA. Mr. Chairman, we The Republican leadership comes and back to these agencies and say, ‘‘Now hear in this debate that we are being tells us we have to give $300 billion in will you, please, help us?’’ ‘‘You all told that some programs have to be tax breaks, mostly to the wealthiest know better. Do not leave it to laymen. trimmed, we have to trim this tree; people in this country, and yet we have Will you, please, help us?’’ ‘‘Help us Head Start, for example, is being pe- to turn around and cut the money that find the right way to cut, the best way nalized because some programs appar- is available for the agencies that make to cut.’’ ently did not run or were not managed sure that the workplaces in America But right now all we are trying to do as well as they should have been. is just to shrink it. Without money, are safe for our employees, that there Yet I remember $500 toilet seats. I re- there has to be something that is done is money for workers who have lost member $100 screw drivers. I remember by the agencies that is efficient, effi- their jobs because the plants move the costly travel junkets, and I remem- ciency is in place. overseas, workers that need retraining, ber the heavy cost overruns in the De- I call upon this body, the American people who want protection so their partment of Defense, and I see that people, all of these agencies, the oppo- pension benefits will be there when they do not get penalized. In fact, they sition, to work together, get in align- they are retired. We cannot afford that, are rewarded. They are rewarded with ment. according to the Republican leader- $8 billion more in funding than they We are in a step process right now, ship. and we are willing to take the heat. We The Republicans are there for the even requested. are willing to take the criticism. We wealthy farmers, for tobacco, and for Tree trimming? I call it butchering. are willing to take that which is really defense contractors, but they are not When we go out there and tell our chil- contradictory when the opposition says there when American families really dren in our schools that their programs that you all are mean-spirited and do need them. will not be there, those are being hacked; when we tell our workers that not care and are not compassionate. Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, yield 11⁄2 We are willing to take that for your minutes to the gentleman from Texas safety for all of our middle-income sake and for our sake. But what I hope [Mr. GENE GREEN]. workers has been axed; when we tell is that we will leave enough of con- (Mr. GENE GREEN of Texas asked our senior citizens section 8 housing versation, enough of a relationship so and was given permission to revise and subsidies will not be there to help them we can get together with these agen- extend his remarks.) pay for their high cost of living and cies and with the opposition when this Mr. GENE GREEN of Texas. Mr. their rent, that is being sacrificed, is all over and we do our job and do a Chairman, like a lot of the other col- what we are telling people is that the better job of spending cuts for the sake leagues on this side of the aisle, I think dream Americans have for their chil- of the American people and in love of this today is a defining moment in our dren is just that, it is just a dream. the American people. short term in the 104th Congress. We Let us be serious. We are not putting Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 have dealt with a great many of the ap- money into deficit reduction when we minutes to the gentleman from Illinois propriations bills, but when we see make these cuts. You could save every [Mr. DURBIN]. what is happening to the education and single penny we are cutting out of edu- Mr. DURBIN. Mr. Chairman, life and job training provisions and the Depart- cation by just cutting a fraction of the politics are a matter of choices. This ment of Labor, we see where the intent tax cuts that are going to go to the Congress has made spending choices really is. wealthiest of Americans in this coun- and is about to make one today. Like my colleague from Arkansas, try in this House’s tax bill. We do not Let me tell you some of the choices who is on the other side of the aisle, I come even close with all the cuts we this Congress has made. Under Repub- would like to balance the budget and have made in education in paying for lican leadership, this Congress has de- aim for that glide path to a balanced those wealthy tax cuts. cided we will continue to give farm budget. But the way this bill is doing it Let us be serious, let us let America payments to wealthy individuals with is the wrong way to do it. know where we are heading in this more than $100,000 off-farm income. We hear every morning in our 1-min- Congress. It is not for the American The same Republican leadership utes and all during these appropria- family. comes to us today and says, ‘‘But we tions bills how we need to balance the Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 11⁄2 are going to have to cut money for budget, to save our children’s futures minutes to the gentlewoman from New title I for kids in the classroom.’’ The so our grandchildren and children are York [Ms. VELA´ ZQUEZ]. Republican leadership tells us, ‘‘We not going to have to pay off the debt. Ms. VELA´ ZQUEZ. Mr. Chairman, I must continue to spend millions of dol- This bill cuts job training, education rise in strong opposition to the Labor– lars every year subsidizing the tobacco funding, so those children will not be HHS appropriation bill. This destruc- industry,’’ and the Republican leader- able to have that education to be able tive legislation takes aim at the people H 8210 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 who need the most help—women, chil- My friends, this Congress has passed some sionsÐbut they are much too numerous to dren, students, the poor, and the elder- bad legislation, but this bill is worse than I mention. But, one thing is for sure, this bill will ly. At a time when we should be giving ever thought possible. It is the epitome of the go down in the history as a declaration of war individuals a helping hand, this bill us-versus-them mentality which plagues the on our children; women; the poor; working sentences the poor to a life of poverty legislation and the debate of the 104th Con- families; and seniors. and despair—all in the name of a tax gress. I urge all Americans who care about the break for rich corporations and the This divisiveness has no place in a national education; well-being; health and safety of wealthiest Americans. dialogue. It has no place, because, it leads to their loved ones to tell their representatives to One of the most devastating parts of elitist and dangerous policy, never more clear oppose this abomination of a bill. this legislation is the $3.8 billion that than in the bill we are debating today. Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield is cut from educational spending. Even We must defeat the Labor-HHS bill because 5 minutes to the distinguished gen- more alarming, bilingual and immi- it abdicates this Government's greatest re- tleman from Mississippi [Mr. WICKER], grant educational programs stand to sponsibility: to make life better for those who a member of the subcommittee. lose $104 million. I wonder which one of are uneducated, untrained, poor, sick, or dis- (Mr. WICKER asked and was given my Republican colleagues would like abled. It signals the end of the Federal Gov- permission to revise and extend his re- to explain to the thousands of bilingual ernment having any obligation, whatsoever, in marks.) students like those at Public School the education, training, and health and safety Mr. WICKER. Mr. Chairman, I thank 169 in my district, why the programs of our people. the distinguished gentleman from that serve to educate them deserve a 50 Make no mistake, this is sweeping and radi- Texas [Mr. BONILLA] for yielding this percent cut? cal legislation. It guts our education and train- time to me. It’s ironic that this Congress is lec- ing system. It makes a mockery of our efforts Mr. Chairman, I came to Washington turing the Nation on welfare reform, to get families off welfare. And, it puts the with 72 other freshmen Republicans to yet systematically denying every op- health and safety of all American workers at change the way Washington does busi- portunity for people to become self-suf- serious risk. ness. This has included a number of im- ficient. First and foremost, this bill flies in the fact portant reforms ranging from requiring Another terrible blow will come from of the American people's belief that education Congress to live under the same laws as the elimination of the Low Income must be our Nation's No. 1 priority. It cuts everyone else to ensuring that the Home Energy Assistance Program. Head Start for 5 year olds; safe and drug free young men and women in our Armed Many seniors in the Lower East Side of schools for 10 year olds; summer jobs and vo- Forces will never again serve under for- my district depend on this program to cational education for 15 year olds; and finan- eign generals. I am proud to be a part survive. Have we already forgotten last cial aid for students of all ages. of this freshman class which I believe month’s episode in which hundreds of Is this any way to take care of our Nation's has forever changed the way Washing- seniors died senselessly because they most important special interest: Our children? ton works. were unable to afford the costs of an Absolutely not. And, what about all the talk we But, Mr. Chairman, while we have electric fan? If we do not maintain hear from both sides of the aisle about getting taken many steps to restore the Amer- funding for this critical program, the families off welfare? ican people’s belief in Congress, I be- next time the temperature climbs into Well, combined with the harsh Republican lieve the most important step is our triple digits or drops below zero more welfare plan passed earlier this year, this bill commitment to balance the budget, people will die. makes it next to impossible for a mother to get and this Labor HHS, Education appro- Then there will be no one to blame a job and get off welfare. While the Repub- priation bill is an important part of for these shameful cuts but ourselves. lican welfare plan shredded the safety net, this that commitment. By then, it may be too late. Shame, bill burns the ladder to self-sufficiencyÐeffec- Over the last 40 years our Govern- shame, shame on all of us. I urge my tively trapping families in permanent poverty. ment in Washington has grown out of colleagues to vote against it. And, what about families who are working control. Today the national debt is $4.8 Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 11⁄2 hard every day in our Nation's factories, trillion, and the President will soon minutes to the gentlewoman from Cali- plants, and mines. ask the Congress to raise the ceiling to fornia [Ms. WOOLSEY]. As a member of the Economic and Edu- enable us to borrow even more money; Ms. WOOLSEY. Mr. Chairman, I com- cational Opportunities Committee, I have that is, more money to pay for a spiral- pliment the leader, the ranking mem- heard loud and clear from these families that ing bureaucracy today that will be paid ber of the Committee on Appropria- they are frightened by the new majority's ef- for by our children tomorrow, by the tions, for all she has done on this. forts to weaken workplace health and safety very children that are shown in this If this bill passes, Mr. Chairman, the rules. Over and over again, spouses, parents, photograph that I have with me today. Gingrich Republicans will be showing a and children tell me that they are willing to see At the current rate of Federal spending triple feature down at your local movie some of their taxes go toward enforcing health the national debt for these children theater. It will be ‘‘Dumb and Dumb- and safety rules, so they can be assured that will rise to $61⁄2 trillion in 5 short er,’’ with sick and sicker and poor and their loved ones will come home from work at years. poorer, and let me tell you, folks, it is night safe and sound. Now, these figures are incomprehen- not going to be a bargain matinee. No That's a reasonable tradeoff for our families, sible. In more digestible terms, a child doubt about it, this sweeping and radi- and that's a sound investment for our Nation. born today will pay over $187,000 in his cal legislation is going to cost us dear- The majority, however, does not see it that lifetime in principal and interest on ly in the long run. way. the national debt. Is there a parent or The Labor-HHS bill makes it clear that the grandparent in America today who b 1500 Gingrich Republicans would rather invest in a would knowingly hand one of these My colleagues, I could go on and on tax break for the fat cats, than the education, children a bill for $187,000 to pay for about the other faults of this bill. It is training, and health and safety of American our own excesses? I think it is fair to antichoice, antifamily planning, it is workers. ask, Mr. Chairman, are our children antiwoman, all of the provisions that In fact, if this bill passes, the Gingrich Re- really getting their money’s worth? are much too much and numerous to publicans will be showing a triple feature down Let us look at the Federal Department mention. But one thing is for sure. at your local movie theatre: It will be ``Dumb of Education, for example. Since its This bill will go down in history as the and Dumber''; with ``Sick and Sicker''; and creation the Department of Education declaration of war on our children, on ``Poor and Poorer.'' And, let me tell you folks, has more than doubled its budget, from women, on the poor, on working fami- it is not going to be a bargain matinee. No $15 billion to over $31 billion. More lies, and on seniors. doubt about it, this sweeping and radical legis- than 240 programs exist within the De- Mr. Chairman, I urge all Americans lation is going to cost us all dearly in the long partment today, nearly doubling in size who care about education, the well- run. since 1980. Yet the uncontrolled growth being, health, and safety of their loved My friends, I could go on and on about the of the Department of Education has ones, to tell their Representatives to other faults of this bill. It is antichoice; not increased our children’s test oppose this bill. antifamily planning; and antiwomen provi- scores. Sadly, we have seen a steady August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8211 decline in student performance as par- I have been listening with care to the how to get people making decisions ents and local communities have less remarks we have heard from the other about their children’s education. control over the children’s education. side. They talk about the importance Mr. Chairman, I saw Head Start No doubt, Mr. Chairman, when we get of looking to the future, and I agree change lives, change families, change to the title of the bill dealing with edu- that we must look to the future, we communities. How can my colleagues cation spending, we will see opponents must recognize the imperative that we say they care about children and take of this bill parading with charts and all face to reduce the debt that we face away money from Head Start? This is a perhaps dressed in Save the Children as a nation. That debt will come down wonderful program that not only helps neckties claiming to be advocates on on our children. But in understanding children and families, it breaks the behalf of children. The truth is that where we need to go in the future, we cycle of poverty. many will hide behind the children to also sometimes can learn important I say to my colleagues, all of you Re- make their case for Federal bureau- lessons from our past. No lesson has publicans who say you care about chil- crats who are in danger of losing their been more important than the last two dren, shame on you that you would do jobs. I would submit to my colleagues times we have been in this level of in- away with the program that everybody that those of us who are interested in debtedness. agrees is a good program that’s helped balancing the budget and reducing the In the period following the Civil War, America. These children need Head national debt on these children are the the most devastating conflict this Na- Start. Only 50 percent of the children real advocates of children in today’s tion has ever faced and in the period in America who need Head Start are current debate. following the Second World War when being served by Head Start. I wish Mr. Chairman, it is also important to our level of indebtedness compared to there was some way I could convince point out that we can balance the our economy was even more devastat- you not to do this awful, terrible bill budget by the year 2002 by slowing the ing than we face today, both were that is going to hurt so many children, rate of growth of Federal spending. times of industrial transition, much but I know I can’t. You’re going to While people talk about cuts, the truth like what we face across this Nation, a slash this program. You’re going to get is that we will spend $1.8 trillion more time in which people’s jobs are less se- rid of some of the programs in this over the next 7 years than we are cure than they have been in the past, country that support Head Start. spending today, $1.8 trillion more than and in both circumstances we need to Mr. Chairman, there is nothing we we are spending today. This bill is a learn the lesson that took place in both can do about it but vote against this prime example of the fact that we can of those times. In the period following awful bill, and I believe there are some balance the budget by funding pro- the Civil War we put in place the Land Republicans who are going to stand grams that work and by cutting redun- Grant Colleges Act. We turned 200 with us on this terrible bill. dant, wasteful programs. This bill small institutions into 3,500 institu- Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield takes a myriad of duplicative and tions of higher education, and job de- a minute and a half to the distin- intertwining programs and reshapes velopment and nation building in this guished gentlewoman from New York them into a leaner and smarter Gov- country that not only helped us grow, [Ms. MOLINARI]. ernment. but helped us grow beyond the level of Ms. MOLINARI. Mr. Chairman, in the For example, the Federal Govern- debt that we faced at that time. Again, brief time that has been allotted me I ment now funds 163 job training pro- at the end of the Second World War we would like to speak about the increases grams, over 15 departments and agen- invested in the education and training in funding that the Labor-HHS bill be- cies, with 40 inter-departmental of- of an entire work force as a million fore us provides, recognizing, and fices. Each of these programs has its men came back from that conflict. We gratefully so, the increasing trend of own bureaucracy swallowing tax dol- put them to work at building their violence against women. This bill pro- lars which never make it outside the skills so that they could go to work vides, as my colleagues know, an in- Beltway. Equally astounding is the building the industrial productivity of crease of over $40 million from last fact that of these 163 Federal programs an entire nation. year’s spending just on the Labor-HHS to train workers to find jobs, less than Those are the lessons from the past side, the majority of it, $35 million, half can tell us whether or not their that we need to learn as we address a going to rape-prevention programs. We participants receive jobs, and 40 per- bill that fails to take advantage of had $400,000 for a domestic violence cent cannot even tell us how many peo- them in building for our future. hotline, $400,000 for youth education, $4 ple they are training. Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 million for community programs, Mr. Chairman, we must ask ourselves minutes to the gentlewoman form Cali- $100,000 for a Center for Disease Control is it morally right for these children to fornia [Ms. WATERS]. domestic violence study, and an equal pay for a Federal Government: Ms. WATERS. Mr. Chairman, I was amount of $32.6 million for a battered which currently funds 119 housing going to offer six amendments today, women’s shelter. This billion under programs across 10 different depart- one on Head Start, Healthy Start, dis- this year’s funding provides $72.5 mil- ments and agencies; located workers, summer jobs, School- lion to complete our contract with the which currently funds 86 federal to-Work Program, and Foster Grand- Violence Against Women bill. teacher training programs across 9 de- parents Program, putting money back Now add that to the additional fund- partments and agencies; in, but then I realized, even if all of ing that we provided in State, Com- which currently funds 266 programs those amendments had passed, I could merce, and Justice where we sent from to help youth at risk across 8 depart- not vote for this bill. This bill is so $25 million in last year’s funding re- ments and agencies; which currently funds over 80 Federal outrageously bad that there is no way quest to $125 million in this year’s welfare programs; and I could support it. It devastates edu- funding request, and I am extremely which currently funds 340 programs cation and job training. proud of the work that has been done for families and children across 11 de- Mr. Chairman, since I can only speak under the Republican Party to fulfill partments and agencies to the tune of for a short time, I came to speak about our commitment in the Violence $60 billion annually. Head Start. I know about Head Start. Against Women Act. I want to thank Mr. Chairman, I urge a ‘‘yes’’ vote on It changed my life. I was just a little Chairmen PORTER, ROGERS, LIVING- the bill. teacher aide, a mother of two children, STON, and the gentleman from New Jer- Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield a went to work for the Head Start Pro- sey [Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN], for bringing minute and a half to the gentleman gram. They encouraged all of us to con- this to our attention, and also I want from Ohio [Mr. SAWYER]. tinue our education, the parents and to thank the gentlewoman from New (Mr. SAWYER asked and was given the workers. I went back to school and York [Mrs. LOWEY], for leading a bipar- permission to revise and extend his re- received my degree, and so did many of tisan effort to make sure that this marks.) the parents in that program. We funding was in place. Mr. SAWYER. Mr. Chairman, I thank learned how to help children build self- Again I want to commend my col- the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. esteem, we learned how to get parents leagues because this is an important OBEY] for yielding this time to me. involved in the budget, and we learned initiative as we see the numbers rise H 8212 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 where three out of four women will be I recognize and support the need to working families and the middle class, victims of violent crimes. We have ade- reduce spending, but the cuts in this to work as partners with the private quately responded with the resources bill are not properly prioritized. sector, to lift up wages and incomes at hand. The bill also contains some obvious and our standard of living. That used Mr. OBEY. I am awaiting my last contradictions, especially over family to be a bipartisan commitment in this speaker. I yield 11⁄2 minutes to myself planning. My colleagues who worked House. Judged by that goal, however, in the meantime. on this bill want to eliminate family we are already in a crisis. Wages and Let me simply say, Mr. Chairman, planning and—at the same time—re- incomes have been falling for all but that we have been told many times duce abortions, unwanted pregnancies, the wealthiest Americans for a decade today by our Republican friends that and the size of the welfare rolls. That and a half, and, thanks to failed Repub- we have to cut the deficit. Of course we does not add up—and in fact, this bill lican policies, two-thirds of all the new do. And I am certainly willing, and so would increase abortions and welfare wealth in the boom years of the 1980’s are the rest of us, to see education, and dependency I cannot in good con- went to the top 1 percent of earners. job programs, and seniors programs science support that. The bottom 80 percent actually saw take their fair share of deficit reduc- Finally, the issue of Medicaid-funded their wealth decline in that period. tion. But what we are not willing to do abortions in the case of rape or incest Mr. Chairman, in the midst of a busi- is to see them take a double hit so that is not adequately addressed in this bill. ness boom, the Labor Department re- they can spend $70 billion on the F–22, Although Mr. KOLBE, Ms. PRYCE, and cently reported the greatest yearly which we do not even need for 15 more myself had an amendment which would wage decline in nearly 150 years. If you years, or that they can continue to have provided a commonsense solution do not know what that means, come spend almost $11⁄2 billion a plane to buy to this problem, we were not allowed to back to my district, or many of the dis- more B–2’s than the Pentagon itself offer it. tricts across the country. Go door to has asked for. We also do not think we I urge my colleagues to oppose this door and meet the families that I meet: ought to continue three different sepa- bill so that we can go back and make it Parents who work two and three jobs, rate subsidies for the nuclear industry. better. barely ever seeing their children; cou- Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, may I in- We are not willing to gut the NLRB ples that spend their precious time to- quire of the gentleman, does he have and the protections it affords to work- gether fighting over their bills and ers in this country so that we can free just one remaining speaker to close? Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I think their inability to pay their bills. up corporations to deal with their Are we proud of this legacy? Does workers like chattel instead of dig- we have just 1 minute remaining. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman that bad turn really deserve another? nified human beings. And we are cer- That is why Democrats have resisted a tainly not willing to see these pro- from Illinois [Mr. PORTER] does have 1 minute remaining. The gentleman Republican agenda that slashes Medi- grams take a double hit so that we can care, student loans, and education to provide a $20,000 tax cut for somebody from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY] has 5 min- utes remaining. pay for a tax cut for people that have making $300,000 a year. it made. We cannot afford a transfer of There are some 17 separate special Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield the wealth in this country for people who riders in this bill that have no business remainder of my time to the gentleman work to people who are wealthy and no here. Many of them are flat-out gifts to from Missouri [Mr. GEPHARDT], the dis- tinguished minority leader. longer work. special interests. There is absolutely Mr. Chairman, I suppose we could dif- no reason in the name of deficit reduc- (Mr. GERHARDT asked and was given permission to revise and extend fer on supply side policies, but who, in tion to provide those slippery-slope rid- good conscience, can support today’s ers, none whatsoever, and so I think his remarks.) Mr. GEPHARDT. Mr. Chairman, I assault on workplace decency and chil- that on all grounds there is a very good rise today to denounce this mindless dren’s opportunity? This bill slashes reason to oppose this bill. education, it slashes training, it Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield and mean-spirited package of budget slashes the standards under which our 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from cuts and to urge every one of my col- workers have been protected. The re- Florida [Mrs. FOWLER]. leagues to cast their vote against it. This appropriations bill is more than a sult is a damaging downward spiral: b 1515 handful of budget reductions to balance Even more children starting school Mrs. FOWLER. Mr. Chairman, I rise the Nation’s budget, it is more than a unhealthy and unable to learn; even in opposition to H.R. 2127 with regret, few policy changes about which we more Americans unable to find jobs because it has come important provi- could rationally and reasonably dis- and prepare for them; even more of the sions which I support. It contains a agree, Mr. Chairman, this appropria- sweat shop standards that Democrats title on political advocacy that will tions bill is a dagger pointed at the and Republicans together used to end taxpayer subsides for lobbyists. It heart of working Americans. It is a strive to eliminate for nearly a cen- shifts OSHA funding priorities away dangerous repeal of basic standards and tury. These are not partisan issues. from enforcement and toward helping protections that have been in place in These are human issues. to make workplaces safer, and it in- this country for nearly a century. If we When it comes to enforcing basic creases funding for the National Insti- pass it, America in the 1990’s will look standards and decency, Government tutes of Health by 5.7 percent, preserv- more and more like America in the has a role. When it comes to ensuring ing our commitment to biomedical re- 1890’s. access to education and health, Gov- search. Mr. Chairman, like the days of the ernment has a role. This bill not only However, this legislation also has Robber Barons, we will have a Repub- denies it, it destroys it. A vote for this huge flaws, including disproportionate lican America where hard-working peo- bill is a vote against America’s work- cuts in the area of education. If it ple are overworked, underpaid, and ing families. A vote for this bill is a passes, the Safe and Drug Free Schools underprotected. We will have a Repub- vote for a lower standard of living. A Program will be cut by more than half. lican America where corporate titans vote for this bill is a vote for a meaner, Vocational and adult education will be wreak trickle-down tax cuts while we tougher America where the dream of cut by 23 percent, and the Head Start slash education, slash job training, rising wages will be nothing but a mi- Program will be reduced by $137 mil- slash summer jobs, and any chance of rage. lion. protecting average workers from abuse This is not the vision of our people, The bill cuts funding for seniors as and exploitation. Mr. Chairman, and it is not what the well, including reducing the National Is that really what we should be people of this country want. I urge Senior Volunteer Corps by $21 million doing? Is that really what America Members on both sides of this aisle to and cutting senior nutrition programs, voted for last November; a Congress reject this bill as wrong headed and which fund the very successful Meals- that doles out tax breaks for the few mean spirited, and to stand together in on-Wheels Program—which provides and partisan punishment for the many? a bipartisan way and say that we can the only daily meal many senior citi- Mr. Chairman, the sole central pur- do better for the working people of this zens receive—by nearly $19 million. pose of this Government is to fight for country. August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8213 Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield that report, shall be considered read, 5 minutes to the time for voting by myself the balance of the time. shall be debatable for the time speci- electronic device on any postponed The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman fied in the report, equally divided and question that immediately follows an- from Illinois is recognized for 1 minute. controlled by the proponent and an op- other vote by electronic device without Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I take ponent, shall not be subject to amend- intervening business, provided that the great umbrage on the words ‘‘mind- ment, and shall not be subject to a de- time for voting by electronic device on less’’ and ‘‘mean spirited.’’ I might say mand for division of the question. the first in any series of questions shall that the subcommittee worked very During further consideration of the not be less than 15 minutes. thoughtfully and, I think, very intel- bill for amendment, the chairman of AMENDMENT NO. 1–1 PRINTED IN PART 1 OF ligently to provide cuts of about $6 bil- the Committee of the Whole may ac- HOUSE REPORT 104–224 OFFERED BY MR. PORTER lion on a base of $70 billion. cord priority in recognition to a Mem- The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will des- What I really take issue with is that ber who has caused an amendment to ignate amendment No. 1–1 printed in the Democrats just do not get it. They be printed in the designated place in part 1 of House Report 104–224. do not seem to understand that we the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. Those The text of the amendment is as fol- have to get spending under control; amendments will be considered read. lows: that we have to get the deficit down; Pursuant to the order of the House of Amendment Number 1–1 printed in Part 1 that the special interest, serve them today, the following amendments of House Report 104–224 offered by Mr. POR- all, business as usual that has gone on (identified by their designation in the TER: in this Congress for the last 40 years is CONGRESSIONAL RECORD) may amend On page 4, line 17, strike ‘‘$3,109,368,000’’ over. portions of the bill not yet read for and insert: ‘‘$3,107,404,000’’ Mr. Chairman, we are going to get amendment, shall not be subject to On page 5, line 17, strike ‘‘$218,297,000’’ and insert: ‘‘$216,333,000’’ our fiscal house in order. We are going amendment, and shall not be subject to On page 16, line 20, strike ‘‘$130,220,000’’ and to do it thoughtfully and intelligently. a demand for division of the question, insert: ‘‘$134,220,000’’ We are going to make the cuts nec- if offered by the Member designated: On page 33, line 12 and line 15, strike essary in order to accomplish that end. Amendment No. 36 by the gentleman ‘‘$2,136,824,000’’ and insert: ‘‘$2,134,533,000’’ I might say it is fascinating to me to from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY]; and and listen to the sky is falling coming from Amendments 60, 61, and 62 offered en On page 37, line 7, strike ‘‘$4,543,343,000’’ the other side of the aisle when the bloc by the gentlewoman from Califor- and insert: ‘‘$4,544,643,000’’. cuts in our bill are not cuts at all. The nia [Ms. PELOSI]. The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the bill is going up, because entitlement Debate on each of the following rule, the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. spending is raising it by $11 billion over amendments—identified by their des- PORTER] and the gentleman from Wis- last year. ignation in the RECORD, ‘‘unless other- consin [Mr. OBEY] will each be recog- It seems to me, Mr. Chairman, you wise specified’’—and any amendments nized for 5 minutes. have to put all of this in perspective thereto, shall be limited to 40 minutes, The Chair recognizes the gentleman and understand that the hyperbole equally divided and controlled by the from Illinois [Mr. PORTER]. from the other side is simply that, hy- proponent and an opponent of the PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY perbole. amendment: Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I have a The CHAIRMAN. All time for general Amendment No. 36 by the gentleman parliamentary inquiry. debate on the bill has expired. from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY]; The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will Pursuant to the rule, the amendment Amendment No. 70 by the gentleman state his parliamentary inquiry. numbered 1–1 printed in part 1 of House from Ohio [Mr. STOKES]; Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I be- Report 104–224 is now pending. Amendment No. 30 by the gentle- lieve that under the rule it is indicated Reading of the bill for further amend- woman from New York [Mrs. LOWEY]; that the manager’s amendments, No. 1 ment shall not proceed until after dis- An amendment by the gentleman and 2, will be disposed of before we pro- position of the amendments printed in from Arizona [Mr. KOLBE] proposing to ceed further at this point, but I also part 1 of that report, which will be con- strike section 509 of the bill; heard as part of the rule that amend- sidered in the order printed, may be of- Amendment No. 64 by the gentleman ments could be rolled in the discretion fered only by a Member designated in from Colorado [Mr. SKAGGS]. of the Chair. that report, shall be considered read, An amendment by the gentleman Is it the Chair’s intention to dispose shall be debatable for 10 minutes, from Minnesota [Mr. SABO] or the gen- of these amendments if recorded votes equally divided and controlled by the tleman from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY] pro- are requested at this time; or would proponent and an opponent, shall not posing to amend title VI of the bill; the Chair intend to roll the votes until be subject to amendment, and shall not and later in the day? be subject to a demand for division of An amendment by the gentleman b the question. from New York [Mr. SOLOMON] relating 1530 After disposition of the amendments to the subject of political advocacy. The CHAIRMAN. It would be the printed in part 1 of the report, the bill, Except as otherwise specified in the Chair’s intention to roll the votes until as amended, shall be considered as the rule, the time for debate on each other later in the day. original bill for the purpose of further amendment to the bill and any amend- Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield amendment under the 5-minute rule. ments thereto shall be limited to 20 myself such time as I may consume. Further consideration of the bill for minutes, equally divided and con- Mr. Chairman, the first amendment I amendment shall proceed by title and trolled by the proponent and an oppo- intend to offer would do four things. each title shall be considered read. nent of the amendment. The first would be to increase funding Consideration of each of the first After a motion that the Committee for Runaway Youth—Transitional Liv- three titles of the bill shall begin with rise has been rejected on a day, the ing in the Administration for Children an additional period of general debate, Chairman may entertain another such and Families, in the Department of which shall be confined to the pending motion on that day only if offered by Health and Human Services by $1.3 mil- title and shall not exceed 90 minutes, the Chairman of the Committee on Ap- lion to a level of $14.9 million. This equally divided and controlled by the propriations or the majority leader or funding level will permit the continu- chairman and ranking minority mem- their designee. ation of all currently funded projects. ber of the Committee on Appropria- Pursuant to the order of the House of Second, it would increase funding for tions. today, the Chairman of the Committee International Labor Affairs in the De- It shall be in order at any time dur- of the Whole may postpone until a time partment of Labor by $4 million. This ing the reading of the bill for amend- during further consideration in the increase will allow the Department to ment to consider the amendments Committee of the Whole a request for a fund its portion of the International printed in part 2 of the report. Each recorded vote on any amendment. Labor Organization’s International amendment printed in part 2 may be The Chairman of the Committee of Program for the Elimination of Child offered only by a Member designated in the Whole may reduce to not less than Labor and to carry out other human H 8214 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 rights activities conducted by that of- The Chair recognizes the gentleman goes partway in doing that. We will fice. This $4 million increase is to be from Illinois [Mr. PORTER]. have further discussions of that later confined to those activities only. Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield on, I am sure. Third, it would reduce funding for myself such time as I may consume. So it reflects, as will be the case over the Medicare Contractors budget by Mr. Chairman, the second amend- and over again as we discuss this ill- $2.3 million. HCFA indicated in fiscal ment I am offering would, first, correct considered proposition, the incredibly year 1995 claims were below estimated an error in the drafting of the bill with sloppy conceptual work that was done levels and that $5 million was available respect to title VI. It would insert two originally in cobbling it together for ill for reprogramming. This reduction, phrases that were approved by the purpose, and the incredibly sloppy along with the reduction approved by committee but were inadvertently left drafting work that reflects the incred- the committee, would reduce fiscal out of the version that was sent to the ibly sloppy thinking. year 1996 funding by $5 million. printer. Having said that, this clears up a lit- Four, it would reduce funding for Second, it would make a technical tle bit of the slop. State Unemployment Insurance and change in title VI by inserting lan- Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield Employment Service Operations by $2 guage to exempt individuals from the back the balance of my time. million. Throughout the bill, Federal requirements of title VI. This simply Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield administration costs were reduced by clarifies the intent of the legislation, myself such time as I may consume. 7.5 percent. With this reduction over- and, again, I would urge the adoption Mr. Chairman, if I may say so, I, as all, the State administrative account of the amendment. the gentleman from Colorado and the will have been reduced 3 percent. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance gentleman from Wisconsin know, op- Mr. Chairman, I would encourage of my time. posed the inclusion of this entire title adoption of the amendment. Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- in our bill. This I think would, how- Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance self such time as I may consume. ever, improve the intent of what the of my time. Mr. Chairman, let me simply say gentleman from Oklahoma had when The CHAIRMAN. The Chair wishes to here that I think it is important to un- he offered the amendment that in- correct a statement just made to the derstand that this is not just a tech- cluded title VI. I would therefore say it gentleman. The Chair is in fact under nical change. As I understand it and as makes the product better, and would the rule entitled to roll a vote, should the gentleman from Colorado will support it for that reason. The gen- it occur, on amendment No. 1. How- point out shortly when I yield to him, tleman might want to oppose it for ex- ever, on amendment No. 2, the Chair is this language not only accomplishes actly the same reason. not under the rule permitted to roll the technical changes desired by the Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I ask that vote. That vote will have to be chairman of the subcommittee, but unanimous consent to reclaim my taken immediately following the de- also makes a substantive change to time. bate on amendment No. 2. carve out individuals from the prohibi- The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- tion in the Istook amendment that to the request of the gentleman from self such time as I may consume. should not be here in the first place. Wisconsin? Mr. Chairman, on the first amend- So, it is an effort to put a rose on a There was no objection. ment offered by the gentleman, we pig, so-to-speak, and that does not Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield have no objection. mean that the pig is still anything but such time as he may consume to the Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- a pig. gentleman from Colorado [Mr. ance of my time. So I do not have any objection to the SKAGGS]. Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield fix-up, but I want people to understand, Mr. SKAGGS. Mr. Chairman, I can- back the balance of my time. it does not improve the general picture not avoid commenting on the gentle- The CHAIRMAN. The question is on of the animal. man’s characterization that this is at- amendment No. 1–1 printed in part 1 of Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he tempting to improve on the intent of House Report 104–224 offered by the may consume to the gentleman from the gentleman from Oklahoma in offer- gentleman from Illinois [Mr. PORTER]. Colorado [Mr. SKAGGS]. ing this. His intent is unimprovable. The amendment was agreed to. Mr. SKAGGS. Mr. Chairman, I thank This change certainly makes the bad The CHAIRMAN. It is now in order to the gentleman for yielding. impact of this provision somewhat di- consider amendment No. 1–2 printed in Let me just point out to my col- minished. part 1 of House Report 104–224. leagues, if you can envision a jalopy Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. PORTER that is up on blocks in somebody’s back the balance of my time. Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I offer backyard, the headlights have been Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield an amendment numbered 1–2. shot out, the engine has been partly such time as he may consume to the The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will des- dismantled, the tires and wheels are gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. ignate the amendment. gone, it is basically rusted out. This is ISTOOK], the author of title VI. The text of the amendment is as fol- a rough analogy to the quality of legis- Mr. ISTOOK. Mr. Chairman, I want lows: lative product that we are now refer- to express appreciation for the com- Amendment No. 1–2 printed in part 1 of ring to as the Istook amendment. ments of the gentleman from Colorado. House Report 104–224 offered by Mr. PORTER: What the gentleman’s amendment I realize he opposes the thrust of the On page 76, line 12, after ‘‘applicant’’ insert: will do to this disarray, mechanically legislation and has his own concerns ‘‘, except an individual person,’’ On page 77, lines 7 and 8, after ‘‘grantee’’ and philosophically, is basically per- about that. As the gentleman correctly insert: ‘‘, except an individual person,’’ haps to replace the oil gasket. But we said a moment ago, even though he On page 84, line 13, strike ‘‘, or’’ and insert: still have a jalopy that is unfit for does not like the bill, at least in his ‘‘;’’ human habitation, much less legisla- opinion it is an improvement. This is On page 84, line 14, strike ‘‘or’’ tive consideration in this body. certainly intended to clarify the intent On page 84, line 15, after ‘‘to’’ insert: ‘‘or It does go farther than merely cor- and to correct the scrivener’s error distribution of funds by’’ On page 84, line 15, before the period insert: recting the clerical error that occurred that was made when things that were ‘‘and the provision of grant and scholarship when this was considered in the full in the actual amendment as offered in funds to students for educational purposes’’ Committee on Appropriations, as the appropriations were inadvertently left and on page 85, line 7, after ‘‘grantee’’ insert: gentleman from Wisconsin has pointed out in the bill printing process. ‘‘, except an individual person,’’. out. It also attempts, unsuccessfully I We have certainly tried to be respon- The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the might add, to repair one of the fun- sive to the concerns of the Members on rule, the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. damental flaws in this whole the other side, and the corrective PORTER] will be recognized for 5 min- cockamamy scheme, which is to try to amendment I think certainly addresses utes, and the gentleman from Wiscon- fix it so it does not apply to normal those. I appreciate what modicum of sin [Mr. OBEY] will be recognized for 5 human beings, individuals that receive favorable comment the gentleman was minutes. some kind of Federal grant. But it only able to make in candor. I thank the August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8215 gentleman. If there is no other debate ing out title II, part C of such Act: Provided a pro rata amount for any increment less on this, I would urge adoption of this further, That no funds from any other appro- than 100,000) from the Employment Security technical correction. priation shall be used to provide meal serv- Administration Account of the Unemploy- Mr. SKAGGS. Mr. Chairman, will the ices at or for Job Corps centers. ment Trust Fund: Provided further, That funds appropriated in this Act which are gentleman yield? COMMUNITY SERVICE EMPLOYMENT FOR OLDER AMERICANS used to establish a national one-stop career Mr. ISTOOK. I yield to the gen- center network may be obligated in con- tleman from Colorado. To carry out title V of the Older Ameri- cans Act of 1965, as amended, $350,000,000. tracts, grants or agreements with non-State Mr. SKAGGS. Mr. Chairman, there is entities: Provided further, That funds appro- a simple way we can improve this even FEDERAL UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AND priated under this Act for activities author- further. ALLOWANCES ized under the Wagner-Peyser Act, as amend- Mr. ISTOOK. I think I can anticipate For payments during the current fiscal ed, and title III of the Social Security Act, year of trade adjustment benefit payments that, Mr. Chairman. may be used by the States to fund integrated and allowances under part I, and for train- Employment Service and Unemployment In- Mr. SKAGGS. Mr. Chairman, I appre- ing, for allowances for job search and reloca- surance automation efforts, notwithstanding ciate the solicitude about improving tion, and for related State administrative ex- cost allocation principles prescribed under the gentleman’s proposal. I think we penses under part II, subchapters B and D, Office of Management and Budget Circular can make a very, very quick and brief chapter 2, title II of the Trade Act of 1974, as A–87. amended, $346,100,000, together with such act of mercy on it that will effect the ADVANCES TO THE UNEMPLOYMENT TRUST FUND amounts as may be necessary to be charged real improvements necessary. AND OTHER FUNDS Mr. ISTOOK. Mr. Chairman, reclaim- to the subsequent appropriation for pay- ments for any period subsequent to Septem- For repayable advances to the Unemploy- ing my time, I thank the gentleman. I ber 15 of the current year. ment Trust Fund as authorized by sections realize we are very much opposed on 905(d) and 1203 of the Social Security Act, as STATE UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE AND the legislation as a whole, and we cer- amended, and to the Black Lung Disability EMPLOYMENT SERVICE OPERATIONS Trust Fund as authorized by section tainly do anticipate going forward with For activities authorized by the Act of it. But this does, through the technical 9501(c)(1) of the Internal Revenue Code of June 6, 1933, as amended (29 U.S.C. 49–49l–1; 1954, as amended; and for nonrepayable ad- correction, make sure that we are ad- 39 U.S.C. 3202(a)(1)(E)); title III of the Social vances to the Unemployment Trust Fund as dressing some concerns. I would urge Security Act, as amended (42 U.S.C. 502–504); authorized by section 8509 of title 5, United adoption of the amendment. necessary administrative expenses for carry- States Code, and section 104(d) of Public Law Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield ing out 5 U.S.C. 8501–8523, and sections 225, 102–164, and section 5 of Public Law 103–6, back the balance of my time. 231–235, 243–244, and 250(d)(1), 250(d)(3), title II and to the ‘‘Federal unemployment benefits The CHAIRMAN. The question is on of the Trade Act of 1974, as amended; as au- and allowances’’ account, to remain avail- amendment No. 1–2 printed in part 1 of thorized by section 7c of the Act of June 6, able until September 30, 1997, $369,000,000. 1933, as amended, necessary administrative House Report 104–224 offered by the In addition, for making repayable advances expenses under sections 101(a)(15)(H), to the Black Lung Disability Trust Fund in gentleman from Illinois [Mr. PORTER]. 212(a)(5)(A), (m) (2) and (3), (n)(1), and 218(g) the current fiscal year after September 15, The amendment was agreed to. (1), (2), and (3), and 258(c) of the Immigration 1996, for costs incurred by the Black Lung The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read. and Nationality Act, as amended (8 U.S.C. Disability Trust Fund in the current fiscal The Clerk read as follows: 1101 et seq.); necessary administrative ex- year, such sums as may be necessary. penses to carry out section 221(a) of the Im- Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Rep- PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION migration Act of 1990, $125,328,000, together resentatives of the United States of America in For expenses of administering employment Congress assembled, That the following sums with not to exceed $3,109,368,000 (including not to exceed $1,653,000 which may be used and training programs and for carrying out are appropriated, out of any money in the section 908 of the Social Security Act, Treasury not otherwise appropriated, for the for amortization payments to States which had independent retirement plans in their $83,505,000, together with not to exceed Departments of Labor, Health and Human $40,974,000, which may be expended from the Services, and Education, and related agen- State employment service agencies prior to 1980, and including not to exceed $2,000,000 Employment Security Administration ac- cies for the fiscal year ending September 30, count in the Unemployment Trust Fund. 1996, and for other purposes, namely: which may be obligated in contracts with non-State entities for activities such as oc- PENSION AND WELFARE BENEFITS The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will des- cupational and test research activities which ADMINISTRATION ignate title I. benefit the Federal-State Employment Serv- SALARIES AND EXPENSES The text of title I is as follows: ice System), which may be expended from For necessary expenses for Pension and the Employment Security Administration TITLE I—DEPARTMENT OF LABOR Welfare Benefits Administration, $64,113,000. account in the Unemployment Trust Fund, EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING ADMINISTRATION and of which the sums available in the allo- PENSION BENEFIT GUARANTY CORPORATION TRAINING AND EMPLOYMENT SERVICES cation for activities authorized by title III of PENSION BENEFIT GUARANTY CORPORATION For expenses necessary to carry into effect the Social Security Act, as amended (42 FUND the Job Training Partnership Act, as amend- U.S.C. 502–504), and the sums available in the The Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation ed, including the purchase and hire of pas- allocation for necessary administrative ex- is authorized to make such expenditures, in- senger motor vehicles, the construction, al- penses for carrying out 5 U.S.C. 8501–8523, cluding financial assistance authorized by teration, and repair of buildings and other shall be available for obligation by the section 104 of Public Law 96–364, within lim- facilities, and the purchase of real property States through December 31, 1996, except its of funds and borrowing authority avail- for training centers as authorized by the Job that funds used for automation acquisitions able to such Corporation, and in accord with Training Partnership Act; title II of the Civil shall be available for obligation by States law, and to make such contracts and com- Rights Act of 1991; the Women in Apprentice- through September 30, 1998; and of which mitments without regard to fiscal year limi- ship and Nontraditional Occupations Act; $125,328,000, together with not to exceed tations as provided by section 104 of the Gov- National Skill Standards Act of 1994; and the $738,283,000 of the amount which may be ex- ernment Corporation Control Act, as amend- School-to-Work Opportunities Act; pended from said trust fund shall be avail- ed (31 U.S.C. 9104), as may be necessary in $3,180,441,000 plus reimbursements, of which able for obligation for the period July 1, 1996, carrying out the program through Septem- $2,936,154,000 is available for obligation for through June 30, 1997, to fund activities ber 30, 1996, for such Corporation: Provided, the period July 1, 1996 through June 30, 1997; under the Act of June 6, 1933, as amended, in- That not to exceed $10,603,000 shall be avail- of which $148,535,000 is available for the pe- cluding the cost of penalty mail made avail- able for administrative expenses of the Cor- riod July 1, 1996 through June 30, 1999 for able to States in lieu of allotments for such poration: Provided further, That expenses of necessary expenses of construction, rehabili- purpose, and of which $218,297,000 shall be such Corporation in connection with the col- tation, and acquisition of Job Corps centers; available only to the extent necessary for ad- lection of premiums, the termination of pen- and of which $95,000,000 shall be available ditional State allocations to administer un- sion plans, for the acquisition, protection or from July 1, 1996 through September 30, 1997, employment compensation laws to finance management, and investment of trust assets, for carrying out activities of the School-to- increases in the number of unemployment and for benefits administration services Work Opportunities Act: Provided, That insurance claims filed and claims paid or shall be considered as non-administrative ex- $50,000,000 shall be for carrying out section changes in a State law: Provided, That to the penses for the purposes hereof, and excluded 401 of the Job Training Partnership Act, extent that the Average Weekly Insured Un- from the above limitation. $65,000,000 shall be for carrying out section employment (AWIU) for fiscal year 1996 is EMPLOYMENT STANDARDS ADMINISTRATION 402 of such Act, $7,300,000 shall be for carry- projected by the Department of Labor to ex- ing out section 441 of such Act, $830,000,000 ceed 2.785 million, an additional $28,600,000 SALARIES AND EXPENSES shall be for carrying out title II, part A of shall be available for obligation for every For necessary expenses for the Employ- such Act, and $126,672,000 shall be for carry- 100,000 increase in the AWIU level (including ment Standards Administration, including H 8216 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 reimbursement to State, Federal, and local count number) as such regulations may pre- (2) to conduct an inspection or investiga- agencies and their employees for inspection scribe. tion in response to an employee complaint, services rendered, $246,967,000, together with BLACK LUNG DISABILITY TRUST FUND to issue a citation for violations found dur- $978,000 which may be expended from the ing such inspection, and to assess a penalty (INCLUDING TRANSFER OF FUNDS) Special Fund in accordance with sections for violations which are not corrected within 39(c) and 44(j) of the Longshore and Harbor For payments from the Black Lung Dis- a reasonable abatement period and for any Workers’ Compensation Act: Provided, That ability Trust Fund, $995,447,000, of which willful violations found; the Secretary of Labor is authorized to ac- $949,494,000 shall be available until Septem- (3) to take any action authorized by such cept, retain, and spend, until expended, in ber 30, 1997, for payment of all benefits as au- Act with respect to imminent dangers; the name of the Department of Labor, all thorized by section 9501(d) (1), (2), (4), and (7), (4) to take any action authorized by such sums of money ordered to be paid to the Sec- of the Internal Revenue Code of 1954, as Act with respect to health hazards; retary of Labor, in accordance with the amended, and interest on advances as au- (5) to take any action authorized by such terms of the Consent Judgment in Civil Ac- thorized by section 9501(c)(2) of that Act, and Act with respect to a report of an employ- tion No. 91–0027 of the United States District of which $26,045,000 shall be available for ment accident which is fatal to one or more Court for the District of the Northern Mari- transfer to Employment Standards Adminis- employees or which results in hospitaliza- ana Islands (May 21, 1992): Provided further, tration, Salaries and Expenses, and tion of two or more employees, and to take That the Secretary of Labor is authorized to $19,621,000 for transfer to Departmental Man- any action pursuant to such investigation establish and, in accordance with 31 U.S.C. agement, Salaries and Expenses, and $287,000 authorized by such Act; and 3302, collect and deposit in the Treasury fees for transfer to Departmental Management, (6) to take any action authorized by such for processing applications and issuing cer- Office of Inspector General, for expenses of Act with respect to complaints of discrimi- tificates under sections 11(d) and 14 of the operation and administration of the Black nation against employees for exercising Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, as amend- Lung Benefits program as authorized by sec- rights under such Act: ed (29 U.S.C. 211(d) and 214) and for process- tion 9501(d)(5)(A) of that Act: Provided, That Provided further, That the foregoing proviso ing applications and issuing registrations in addition, such amounts as may be nec- shall not apply to any person who is engaged under Title I of the Migrant and Seasonal essary may be charged to the subsequent in a farming operation which does not main- Agricultural Worker Protection Act, 29 year appropriation for the payment of com- tain a temporary labor camp and employs U.S.C. 1801 et seq. pensation, interest, or other benefits for any ten or fewer employees. SPECIAL BENEFITS period subsequent to August 15 of the cur- rent year: Provided further, That in addition MINE SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION (INCLUDING TRANSFER OF FUNDS) such amounts shall be paid from this fund SALARIES AND EXPENSES For the payment of compensation, bene- into miscellaneous receipts as the Secretary fits, and expenses (except administrative ex- of the Treasury determines to be the admin- For necessary expenses for the Mine Safety penses) accruing during the current or any istrative expenses of the Department of the and Health Administration, $185,154,000, in- prior fiscal year authorized by title 5, chap- Treasury for administering the fund during cluding purchase and bestowal of certificates ter 81 of the United States Code; continu- the current fiscal year, as authorized by sec- and trophies in connection with mine rescue ation of benefits as provided for under the tion 9501(d)(5)(B) of that Act. and first-aid work, and the hire of passenger head ‘‘Civilian War Benefits’’ in the Federal motor vehicles; the Secretary is authorized OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH Security Agency Appropriation Act, 1947; the to accept lands, buildings, equipment, and ADMINISTRATION Employees’ Compensation Commission Ap- other contributions from public and private propriation Act, 1944; and sections 4(c) and SALARIES AND EXPENSES sources and to prosecute projects in coopera- 5(f) of the War Claims Act of 1948 (50 U.S.C. For necessary expenses for the Occupa- tion with other agencies, Federal, State, or App. 2012); and 50 per centum of the addi- tional Safety and Health Administration, private; the Mine Safety and Health Admin- tional compensation and benefits required by $263,985,000 including not to exceed $65,319,000 istration is authorized to promote health section 10(h) of the Longshore and Harbor which shall be the maximum amount avail- and safety education and training in the Workers’ Compensation Act, as amended, able for grants to States under section 23(g) mining community through cooperative pro- $218,000,000 together with such amounts as of the Occupational Safety and Health Act, grams with States, industry, and safety asso- may be necessary to be charged to the subse- which grants shall be no less than fifty per- ciations; and any funds available to the De- quent year appropriation for the payment of cent of the costs of State occupational safety partment may be used, with the approval of compensation and other benefits for any pe- and health programs required to be incurred the Secretary, to provide for the costs of riod subsequent to August 15 of the current under plans approved by the Secretary under mine rescue and survival operations in the year: Provided, That such sums as are nec- section 18 of the Occupational Safety and event of a major disaster: Provided, That essary may be used under section 8104 of title Health Act of 1970; and, in addition, notwith- none of the funds appropriated under this 5, United States Code, by the Secretary to standing 31 U.S.C. 3302, the Occupational paragraph shall be obligated or expended to reimburse an employer, who is not the em- Safety and Health Administration may re- carry out section 115 of the Federal Mine ployer at the time of injury, for portions of tain up to $500,000 per fiscal year of training Safety and Health Act of 1977 or to carry out the salary of a reemployed, disabled bene- institute course tuition fees, otherwise au- that portion of section 104(g)(1) of such Act ficiary: Provided further, That balances of re- thorized by law to be collected, and may uti- relating to the enforcement of any training imbursements unobligated on September 30, lize such sums for occupational safety and requirements, with respect to shell dredging, 1995, shall remain available until expended health training and education grants: Pro- or with respect to any sand, gravel, surface for the payment of compensation, benefits, vided, That none of the funds appropriated stone, surface clay, colloidal phosphate, or and expenses: Provided further, That in addi- under this paragraph shall be obligated or surface limestone mine. tion there shall be transferred to this appro- expended to prescribe, issue, administer, or BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS priation from the Postal Service and from enforce any standard, rule, regulation, or any other corporation or instrumentality re- order under the Occupational Safety and SALARIES AND EXPENSES quired under section 8147(c) of title 5, United Health Act of 1970 which is applicable to any For necessary expenses for the Bureau of States Code, to pay an amount for its fair person who is engaged in a farming operation Labor Statistics, including advances or re- share of the cost of administration, such which does not maintain a temporary labor imbursements to State, Federal, and local sums as the Secretary of Labor determines camp and employs ten or fewer employees: agencies and their employees for services to be the cost of administration for employ- Provided further, That no funds appropriated rendered, $296,993,000, of which $11,549,000 ees of such fair share entities through Sep- under this paragraph shall be obligated or shall be for expenses of revising the tember 30, 1996: Provided further, That of expended to administer or enforce any stand- Consumer Price Index and shall remain those funds transferred to this account from ard, rule, regulation, or order under the Oc- available until September 30, 1997, together the fair share entities to pay the cost of ad- cupational Safety and Health Act of 1970 with not to exceed $50,220,000, which may be ministration, $11,383,000 shall be made avail- with respect to any employer of ten or fewer expended from the Employment Security Ad- able to the Secretary of Labor for expendi- employees who is included within a category ministration account in the Unemployment tures relating to capital improvements in having an occupational injury lost workday Trust Fund. support of Federal Employees’ Compensation case rate, at the most precise Standard In- DEPARTMENTAL MANAGEMENT Act administration, and the balance of such dustrial Classification Code for which such funds shall be paid into the Treasury as mis- data are published, less than the national av- SALARIES AND EXPENSES cellaneous receipts: Provided further, That erage rate as such rates are most recently For necessary expenses for Departmental the Secretary may require that any person published by the Secretary, acting through Management, including the hire of three se- filing a notice of injury or a claim for bene- the Bureau of Labor Statistics, in accord- dans, and including up to $4,056,000 for the fits under Subchapter 5, U.S.C., chapter 81, ance with section 24 of that Act (29 U.S.C. President’s Committee on Employment of or under subchapter 33, U.S.C. 901, et seq. 673), except— People With Disabilities, $130,220,000; to- (the Longshore and Harbor Workers’ Com- (1) to provide, as authorized by such Act, gether with not to exceed $303,000, which pensation Act, as amended), provide as part consultation, technical assistance, edu- may be expended from the Employment Se- of such notice and claim, such identifying in- cational and training services, and to con- curity Administration account in the Unem- formation (including Social Security ac- duct surveys and studies; ployment Trust Fund. August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8217 WORKING CAPITAL FUND (C) identifies investments with respect to amount and a reduction of $3 billion The language under this heading in Public which the Department or the Corporation below the President’s budget request. Law 85–67, as amended, is further amended will withhold from undertaking enforcement In addition, the bill includes $1.9 bil- by adding the following before the last pe- actions under such Act by reason of their lion for entitlement spending in the riod: ‘‘: Provided further, That within the status as economically targeted investments Labor Department. This is a reduction referred to in such Interpretive Bulletin, Working Capital Fund, there is established of $583 million below fiscal year 1995 an Investment in Reinvention Fund (IRF), (3) to administer or otherwise carry out which shall be available to invest in projects the contract entered into by the Department and $3 million below the budget re- of the Department designed to produce meas- of Labor designated ‘‘Contract No. J–9–P–4– quest. urable improvements in agency efficiency 0060’’ or any other similar contract entered The budget includes substantial re- and significant taxpayer savings. Notwith- into by the Department or the Corporation ductions in certain job training pro- standing any other provision of law, the Sec- (except to the extent required by applicable grams, including elimination of fund- retary of Labor may retain up to $3,900,000 of law to provide for the immediate termi- ing for summer jobs program, also pre- the unobligated balances in the Depart- nation of such contract), or viously rescinded because of the gen- ment’s annual Salaries and Expenses ac- (4) to promote economically targeted in- vestments referred to in such Interpretive eral lack of effectiveness. This decision counts as of September 30, 1995, and transfer reflects the need to prioritize programs those amounts to the IRF to provide the ini- Bulletin, either by direct means, such as lec- tial capital for the IRF, to remain available ture or travel, or by indirect means. and reduce spending, as well as the fact until expended, to make loans to agencies of SEC. 105. None of the funds made available that the Committee on Economic and the Department for projects designed to en- in this Act may be used by the Occupational Educational Opportunities is in the hance productivity and generate cost sav- Safety and Health Administration directly process of consolidating these very pro- ings. Such loans shall be repaid to the IRF or through section 23(g) of the Occupational grams. no later than September 30 of the fiscal year Safety and Health Act for the development, We also believe that these job train- following the fiscal year in which the project promulgation or issuance of any proposed or ing programs under the Job Training is completed. Such repayments shall be de- final standard or guideline regarding ergonomic protection or recording and re- Partnership Act are, on the whole, less posited in the IRF, to be available without than effective, in that taxpayer fund- further appropriation action.’’ porting occupational injuries and illnesses directly related thereto. ing is not getting full value out of ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR VETERANS these funds. Job Corps funding, how- EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING SEC. 106. Notwithstanding any other provi- sion of law, no funds shall be expended by ever, has increased $31 million over last Not to exceed $175,883,000 may be derived the Occupational Safety and Health Admin- from the Employment Security Administra- year, which will allow funding for four istration for the enforcement of the Fall tion account in the Unemployment Trust new centers which were approved in Protection Standard published at subpart M Fund to carry out the provisions of 38 U.S.C. prior years and are opening in 1996. No of 29 CFR part 1926, until 30 days after a new 4100–4110A and 4321–4327, and Public Law 103– standard has been promulgated by the Sec- additional new centers were approved 353, and which shall be available for obliga- retary of Labor (‘‘the Secretary’’). beyond the ones already approved in tion by the States through December 31, 1996. The Secretary shall develop this standard prior years. OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL no later than 180 days after the enactment of The total for Job Corps is $1.1 billion. For salaries and expenses of the Office of this Act. Until the publishing of the revised We know that this program is expen- Inspector General in carrying out the provi- final rule, the Occupational Safety and sive, but we believe that in the major- sions of the Inspector General Act of 1978, as Health Administration may only expend ity of centers, it is more successful in amended, $44,426,000, together with not to ex- funds designated for the enforcement of an dealing with the very disadvantaged ceed $3,615,000, which may be expended from interim fall protection standard which ad- population than are the other principal the Employment Security Administration justs all height requirements referenced at account in the Unemployment Trust Fund. subpart M of 29 CFR part 1926 from 6 feet to job training programs which we have GENERAL PROVISIONS 16 feet. reduced very substantially. The com- mittee has made it clear that the Gov- SEC. 101. None of the funds appropriated in SEC. 107. None of the funds appropriated in this title for the Job Corps shall be used to this Act may be obligated or expended by the ernment is to take all necessary steps pay the compensation of an individual, ei- Department of Labor for the purposes of en- to straighten out those centers that ther as direct costs or any proration as an forcement and the issuance of fines under are not performing up to standards. I indirect cost, at a rate in excess of $125,000. Hazardous Occupation Order Number 12 (HO might say Job Corps, Mr. Chairman, SEC. 102. Section 427(c) of the Job Training 12) with respect to the placement or loading addresses the most at-risk youth in our of materials by a person under 18 years of Partnership Act, as amended, is repealed. society. SEC. 103. No amount of funds appropriated age into a cardboard baler that is in compli- ance with the American National Standards The bill directs more of the Commu- in this Act for fiscal year 1996 may be used to nity Service Employment for Older implement, administer, or enforce any exec- Institute safety standard ANSI Z245.5 1990, utive order, or other rule or order, that pro- and a compactor that is in compliance with Americans funding to States rather hibits Federal contracts with, or requires the the American National Standards Institute than to national contractors. We think debarment of, or imposes other sanction on, safety standard ANSI Z245.2 1992. the States can do a better job in this a contractor on the basis that such contrac- SEC. 108. None of the funds appropriated in area. The national contractors have tor or organizational unit thereof has perma- this Act may be obligated or expended by the been in this program for 25 to 30 years, nently replaced lawfully striking workers. Department of Labor for the purposes of en- and there is essentially no competition forcement and the issuance of fines under SEC. 104. None of the funds made available in the program. They are simply re- in this Act to the Department of Labor or Hazardous Occupation Order Number 2 (HO 2) the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation with respect to incidental and occasional newed each year, year after year, by may be used— driving by minors under age 18, unless the the Department of Labor. This includes (1) to implement or administer Interpre- Secretary finds that the operation of a AARP, the National Council on Senior tive Bulletin 94–1, issued by the Secretary of motor vehicle is the primary duty of the mi- Citizens, and the National Council on Labor on June 23, 1994 (59 Fed. Reg. 32606; 29 nor’s employment. Aging. We believe these matters should C.F.R. 2509.94–1), This title may be cited as the ‘‘Department be handled more at the State level. (2) to establish or maintain, or to contract of Labor Appropriations Act, 1996’’. One-stop career centers are level with (or otherwise provide assistance to) any The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the funded at $100 million. We believe this other party to establish or maintain, any rule, the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. is adequate to maintain this program clearinghouse, database, or other listing which— PORTER] will be recognized for 45 min- at current levels until we see whether (A) makes available to employee benefit utes, and the gentleman from Wiscon- it is going to do what the administra- plans (as defined in section 3(3) of the Em- sin [Mr. OBEY] will be recognized for 45 tion says that it will do. This sounds ployee Retirement Income Security Act of minutes. like a good concept, but there are so 1974) information relating to the status of in- The Chair recognizes the gentleman many job training programs operating, vestments as economically targeted invest- from Illinois [Mr. PORTER]. according to GAO, 163 of them, that it ments referred to in such Interpretive Bul- Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield is not at all clear that a new Federal letin, myself such time as I may consume. grant program is going to coordinate (B) provides assistance to employee benefit plans (as so defined) or any other party to Mr. Chairman, total discretionary and pull all of this together. Congress develop or evaluate investments as economi- funding for the Department of Labor is needs to take legislative action to cally targeted investments referred to in $8.4 billion. This is a reduction of $1.1 clean up this maze of job training pro- such Interpretive Bulletin, or billion below fiscal year 1995’s revised grams. We are hopeful that this will be H 8218 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 accomplished by the authorizing com- families of workers by way of edu- This takes place at a time when mittee. cation, training, and health. workers in America are menaced by We fund State unemployment insur- Our Republican friends are evidently corporate downsizing to increase prof- ance administrative costs at roughly not satisfied that between 1980 and 1993 its, the bottom line for corporate the same as the 1995 level. This bill in- only 97 percent of all of the income America, globalization, putting many cludes $2.3 billion for States to admin- growth that occurred in our country U.S. jobs offshore, and the techno- ister the unemployment benefit pro- went to the wealthiest 20 percent of logical advances which we all support. gram. We expect that the States will people in this society. The rest of the Those factors make it even harder to tighten their belts on administrative 80 percent in this society had to settle understand why the Republican major- costs, just like the Federal agencies for sharing that tiny little 3 percent. ity would strike out at the American are doing in this bill. And yet this bill will in fact make that worker at this very difficult time in The Bureau of Labor Statistics is situation worse. our economic history. funded at $347 million, a decrease of They think workers have too much We hear a great deal about competi- only 1.3 percent. We provide full fund- power in the marketplace. In my view tiveness, how can we compete with our ing for the revision of the consumer that is a joke. Yet their bill goes ahead European and our Japanese competi- price index, and we expect the Bureau and guts the ability of the NLRB to en- tors when they respect their workers? of Labor Statistics to give this a very force laws to protect workers on every- The American workers are the most high priority. thing from wages and hours to the min- productive workers in the world. Yet OSHA funding is reduced by 15 per- imum wage. It savages the ability of our reward to them is to say, in this OSHA to provide a safe and healthy cent and shifted to emphasize compli- bill, the law of the jungle will prevail. workplace; $1 out of every $4 that were ance assistance. We increased funding Laissez-faire reigns. We are not inter- present a year ago to defend the inter- by 19.2 percent over enforcement ac- ested in your progress. tivities, where we cut funding by 33 ests of workers in this society will be gone under this bill, $1 out of $4. This committee bill reverses decades percent for Federal enforcement and 7.5 of progress to protect American work- percent for State enforcement. This bill, for instance, provides a healthy appropriation for the National ers. Out of respect for those American b 1545 Institutes of Health. I applaud that. workers, I offered an amendment to re- They deal with diseases that anybody store funding for seven critical worker Language is also included to prohibit protections. Unfortunately, this OSHA from issuing a standard on can get, whether you are the CEO of a plant or the janitor at that same plant. amendment is not in order under the ergonomic protection. This agency rule. Therefore, I want to explain to serves a useful public purpose, but it But the National Institutes of Occupa- tional Health and Safety is supposed to Members the implication of these cuts needs to arrange its priorities from on American workers. being a policeman to a more coopera- be that one agency which does the re- A vote for this bill, and I think every tive and consulting role. search, the medical research which is Member should be very conscious of The bill also contains language to supposed to underlie the actions that this when they put their card in the prevent implementation of the Presi- OSHA then takes to protect the health machine, a vote for this bill is a vote dent’s Executive order on striker re- of American workers. for a 33 percent cut in safety and placements and to end pressure on pen- That agency is savaged. All ability to health enforcement in our country. sion funds to invest in economically train occupational health workers in Currently, 6,000 Americans are injured targeted investments. that agency is ended. Its budget, the This language, along with other lan- budget to provide the desperately need- on the job each day, and these injuries guage included in the bill, was included ed research, is gutted. I think the ma- cost America more than $112 billion a jority party ought to be ashamed of it- at the request of the authorizing com- year. So it does not even make eco- self. mittee. The bill reduces administrative nomic sense to make this foolish cut. Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to These preventable injuries have a di- costs throughout the Department by the gentlewoman from California [Ms. cutting overall administrative budgets rect impact on American families. PELOSI], who will begin essentially our by 7.5 percent and the congressional In addition to that, they have a cut side of this 11⁄2-hour discussion on title and public affairs offices by 10 percent. of 25 percent in safety and health re- I, focused on the problems that it pre- search. Are you ready for this, my col- The bill includes nearly $1.5 billion for sents to American workers. Labor Department salaries and expense leagues? Even General Motors is oppos- Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I thank ing this cut. This research ultimately costs in 1996. the ranking member for yielding time We believe that the Department can saves the Nation billions of dollars an- to me, and once again for being such an nually in medical costs. Of course, the make do with that amount and still ac- articulate spokesperson for America’s complish its essential duties under the health care costs borne by the industry workers and America’s families. directly impact on the price of product, law. There are many reasons to be against making global competition an issue as Overall, this bill substantially this bill. Many of them have been enu- well. That is why General Motors is op- downsizes the Department of Labor. We merated in the debate thus far, and we posing this cut. Why do we not? think that we have reduced programs will hear more later. that do not work very well and have re- But this part of the bill, title I, deals There are also cuts in mine safety. duced overhead and administrative with the war on American workers that This means fewer mines will be in- costs in a reasonable way. We have this legislation has declared. Indeed, spected, exposing more miners to in- fully maintained the Job Corps. We regardless of comments to the contrary jury. have tried to redirect the priorities of from the majority Republican side, this There are other reductions proposed the Occupational Safety and Health legislation cuts $10 billion, $10 billion in pension protections. The reductions Administration. And we have provided in programs that relate to family plan- proposed in this bill place in jeopardy adequate funding for the Department ning in title 10, workers protections, working families’ pensions. These cut- to carry out its essential responsibil- health, education. The list goes on and backs will result in pension plan losses ities under the law. on. of at least $100 million, and the number Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance This section, title I, goes to, as I of pension fraud cases pursued will de- of my time. said, the war on American workers. cline by 20 percent. Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- The Republican majority with this bill Employment standards enforcement self 2 minutes. says to the American worker, essen- is cut by 25 percent. These reductions Mr. Chairman, working people pay tially: Get lost. When it comes to your will mean that $25 million in back most of the taxes to support the activi- safety in the workplace, your pension wages owed to some 50,000 workers will ties of Government. Yet the activities protections, your employment stand- not be recovered. of Government that are most being ards and collective bargaining and job Mr. Chairman, for the record, I am chopped by this bill are those that help security, forget it. That is what the putting elaboration of all of this in, workers, that help the children and the majority is saying. but in the interest of time I am just August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8219 going to proceed to collective bargain- This bill simply redirects OSHA’s ried about them. I am worried about ing. The collective bargaining protec- current philosophy of assessing exces- the future we are giving them. I am tions are cut by 30 percent. This is ab- sive fines and penalties to one where worried about the $18,000 debt that that solutely appalling. The National Labor OSHA will be required to work with little grandchild will inherit, the day Relations Board was created in 1935 to and assist small businesses in their ef- he is born or she is born. bring order to labor disputes. forts to promote health and safety in I am concerned about the $187,000 This bill cuts 30 percent of the funds the workplace. So we reduce the fund- that they will pay in taxes just to pay for the NLRB and handcuffs the board’s ing by 33 percent on the enforcement interest on the national debt. So, when ability to enforce existing laws and side while increasing funding by 20 per- we talk about the children and the im- safeguards on employees rights and cent on compliance assistance. pact of this bill upon the children, employers protection. The NLRB Surely it is not too much to ask of please think about that. Think about guards against unfair labor practices the Occupational Safety and Health the burden that we are imposing. And both by employers and employees. This Administration to work with small you will hear, as we have heard, that is a direct attack on the basic rights of businesses to ensure the health and the minority leader said this bill is a both. safety of their employees. After all, dagger aimed at the heart of the chil- The dislocated worker assistance pro- that is why OSHA was created. dren. No, it is not. It is a dagger aimed gram is cut by 34 percent. This means We heard so many stories, but this at the heart of runaway social spend- that 193,000 workers who lose their jobs story was faxed to me, and it is very ing. You heard that it is a war on in 1996, through no fault of their own, typical of the kinds of stories we heard American workers. No, it is not. It is will not receive training. on OSHA overkill in our hearings. This not a war on American workers. It is a Rapid advancements in technology, defense small businessman operated for 21 war on job-killing deficit spending. downsizing, corporate restructuring, and in- years. None of his employees ever had b tense global competition result in structural a lost-day injury, not one. No work- 1600 changes necessary for economical growth. men’s compensation claim was ever It is time we made the start. This bill This program works. The inspector general paid. Yet after 21 years, that OSHA in- does that. Let us pass a good Labor- has reported that workers served by this pro- spector came in, filed 21 alleged viola- HHS appropriation bill. gram were reemployed, remained in the tions. Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 workforce, and regained their earning power. He said the allegations were that he minutes to the gentleman from Rhode Continuing our investment in dislocated work- was exposing his employees to hazards Island [Mr. KENNEDY]. ers is essential. such as not having a crane operators Mr. KENNEDY of Rhode Island. Mr. The cuts in these seven programs for work- manual, and not having instructions on Chairman, I believe when 17 Rhode Is- er protection, along with a long list of legisla- how to pour diesel fuel, and not having landers died on the job in 1992, that we tion provisionsÐlimiting the authority of agen- a list of hazards on how to handle gaso- are not doing enough to protect worker cies to enforce child labor laws, laws which line, grease, and concrete. safety; but the Republicans in this bill protect workers' right to organize, and regula- I will make a long story short. That are saying that we are doing enough. In tions to protect occupational safety; and lan- happened in 1991, 4 years. After he con- fact, they are saying that we are doing guage blocking the President's Executive tested the allegations, after he con- too much to protect workers. order regarding striker replacementsÐcon- tested the citations, 4 years later and Just think about this for a moment, stitute a war on the American worker. hundreds of thousands of dollars in Mr. Chairman. When 6,000 workers die Mr. Chairman, American workers are the legal costs later, all of the citations every year, and there is one worker-re- engine of our economy. They must be treated lated fatality every 5 seconds in this with dignity and respect. They also deserve a were vacated. Would it not make a lot more sense country, the Republicans in this bill we safe workplace. Despite our budget chal- had that inspector simply said, you say are spending too much money on lenges, we should not retreat on worker pro- have got 30 days to make the correc- worker safety. This is madness. tection. Cuts that will result in increased work- Since worker safety protections were place accidents and fatalities will cost our so- tions on where we see violations and put in place in order to address trench- ciety. This is the wrong place to cut back. where you are out of compliance? The ing fatalities, the number of workers Shame. small businessman makes those correc- Mr. Chairman, we will go into this tions, and we go on with a good, safe killed has declined by 35 percent, and more as we try to bring up other workplace, saving the taxpayers of hundreds of trenching accidents have amendments. All I am saying here America hundreds of thousands of dol- been prevented. In one instance, an today is that, if Members in this Cham- lars in litigation costs. OSHA inspector in a Cleveland con- ber care about the American worker, That is what this bill moves toward. struction site said that the workers they will vote against this bill. It refocuses its priorities toward assist- had to wear fall protection gear while Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 ing businesses in having a safe work- working on a scaffolding 70 feet above minutes to the gentleman from place. the ground. Four days later that scaf- Bentonville, AR [Mr. HUTCHINSON], a OSHA inspectors are simply mis- folding collapsed, 4 days later, while member of the Economic and Edu- guided in their efforts to promote a none of the workers were injured, be- cational Opportunities Committee. safe workplace. In recent years, eight cause they were all wearing the protec- Mr. HUTCHINSON. Mr. Chairman, I of the 10 most cited standards by OSHA tive gear that OSHA told them they commend the gentleman on his leader- have been paperwork violations. With should wear. This is the reason we need ship that he has displayed on this very OSHA, it is regulation, inspection, ci- to protect it. fine appropriations bill. I also want to tation and fine, fine, fine, and we want Mr. Chairman, since the agency was commend my chairman on the Sub- to change that. charged with protecting worker safety, committee on Workforce Protections, We have heard that the 11-percent and since it was put in place, overall the gentleman from North Carolina cut overall in Labor–HHS appropria- workplace fatalities have declined 57 [Mr. BALLENGER], for the work that he tions, the sky is falling, you have percent, so why is this bill cutting its has done on OSHA reform. heard apocalypse now. You has heard, budget by 33 percent? Obviously, as the We have had a number of OSHA hear- as one speaker said, that it is a dec- Member just said, to save money. That ings in recent months in which we have laration of war on the children. There is obvious. The question is, save money heard repeatedly the kind of horror has been a lot of talk about hurting for what? Save money and lose jobs? stories of OSHA overkill. So I am very our children. They say they are wor- Save money and lose lives? Save money glad to support this bill, particularly ried about our children. I want to say I so that the richest 1 percent of this because of the OSHA provisions in am worried about our children. My son, country can get a $20,000 tax break? To which we reduce funding for enforce- about a year from now, will be getting me, that is deplorable, and we should ment, investigation and imposition of married to a wonderful, wonderful not allow it. penalties by 33 percent while increas- bride. A few years from now they will Mr. ROBERTS. Mr. Chairman, I am ing compliance assistance by 20 per- be starting a family. His first child will pleased to yield 5 minutes to the gen- cent, as we can see on this chart. be my first grandchild, and I am wor- tleman from Hickory, NC [Mr. H 8220 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995

BALLENGER], the chairman of the Sub- tion costs increased dramatically. During expose the fact that there is a covert committee on Workforce Protections this time frame, we averaged about 10 OSHA war to obliterate OSHA and MSHA. of the Committee on Economic and inspections per year. None of the citations This conspiring has been underway related to the main reasons our accidents Education Opportunities. were occurring. To use an analogy, all of our since the beginning of the 1994 election Mr. BALLENGER. I thank the gen- citations were for not putting a band-aid on campaign. tleman for yielding time to me. a cut—none were for what was causing the The Post article indicated that the Mr. Chairman, there has been a lot of cut. In the beginning of 1992, we returned to down payment for the contract to as- talk about how if we make any cuts in our historical focus of managing safety and sassinate OSHA was $65,000 in North OSHA enforcement we will directly en- not compliance. With the return to our his- Carolina. I am certain that similar war danger American workers. That kind of torical focus on accident prevention, we bonds for the destruction of OSHA and statement presumes that only the achieved an accident rate reduction of 16%, a MSHA were being purchased in other strong enforcement arm of OSHA lost time accident rate reduction of 15% and States, also. They are specifically a workers’ compensation cost per claim re- stands between workers and serious in- duction of 24% from 1991 through the end of going after certain aspects of OSHA to jury and death. I think we all know 1994. please the business community. The that that’s nonsense. Employers in this In my position, I spend approximately 50% world already knows how the Repub- country have a lot more reasons than of my time on OSHA compliance issues and lican Party has turned over the Waco OSHA for providing safe workplaces. our plant safety coordinators spend approxi- investigation to the NRA. That is well The fact of the matter is that once one mately 80% of their time on compliance ac- documented. cuts through the rhetoric, the evidence tivities. The majority of our resources are Thanks to this article in the Post, we dedicated to paperwork and programs that now know that certain parts of what I of an overall effect of OSHA in reduc- are not the cause of our problems. OSHA ing injuries and deaths over the past 25 could be a helpful resource in our efforts to call the Death and Injury Act in the years is at best very limited. prevent accidents, but the agency needs to authorizing committee was turned over It has been claimed that OSHA works be refocused. to similar outside vested interests, and because workplace fatality rates have The problem is that OSHA’s empha- certain aspects of this appropriations decreased by more than 50 percent sis has been on compliance with regula- bill have been turned over, to be writ- since the OSH Act was passed. In fact, tions, many of which have only indi- ten by outside interests. workplace fatality rates have declined rect or minor relationship to safety. Mr. Chairman, we are talking about steadily since the end of World War II, More reasonable regulations, combined life and death. We are talking about a and in fact the fatality rate decreased with other strategies which focus on bill which will go after the standards more during the 24 years prior to OSHA safety and health rather than punish- which protect the health and safety of than it did in the 24 years after OSHA ment—expanded consultation services, American workers. Fifty-six thousand was created. incentives for good safety records, pro- workers die per year. Ten thousand OSHA itself cites a 1993 study which, vision for private sector workplace re- died last year directly on the job. The OSHA claims, ‘‘confirmed that in the views, more leeway for employee par- rest of them died as a result of com- three years following an OSHA inspec- ticipation and safety committees, and plications suffered by conditions on the tion and fine, injuries at the inspected directing that enforcement focus on se- job or diseases contracted on the job, worksite decline by as much as 22%.’’ rious health and safety concerns—will but 10,000 died directly. In fact, OSHA is trying to make that make OSHA more effective, as well as In North Carolina, we know about study’s conclusions far more positive less onerous. the 25 people who were killed in one than the authors were. The authors of Reforms to OSHA are badly needed. fire in a North Carolina plant that had the study did estimate that in their We are trying to reform OSHA in my not been inspected by OSHA. In Geor- sample of companies that had been in- subcommittee. This appropriations bill gia, on March 17, 1994, Mr. Sangster, an spected and fined there was a 22-per- is a realistic reflection of where OSHA employee of the Industrial Boiler Co., cent decline in injuries over 3 years. is today. Don’t be deceived by the talk was killed while attempting to test fire The companies in the sample were very about increased worker injuries. The a boiler. The boiler exploded and the large manufacturing facilities; thus the evidence just doesn’t support those left front door struck Mr. Sangster, number of injuries suffered was rel- claims. killing him. There were quite a number atively high compared to all worksites Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 of such deaths in the State of Georgia. in the United States. The authors did minutes to the distinguished gen- I mention that because there are try to extrapolate their findings from tleman from New York [Mr. OWENS]. prominent Members of the State of this sample to all employers, and con- (Mr. OWENS asked and was given Georgia delegation on the committee cluded that OSHA probably reduced permission to revise and extend his re- seeking to assassinate and destroy overall injuries by about 2 percent. In- marks.) OSHA. deed, nearly all economists’ attempts Mr. OWENS. Mr. Chairman, this bill Also in Georgia, on April 18, 1994, a to estimate the overall effect of OSHA is not merely about saving money. Mr. Powel, an employee of Harbert- on workplace injuries have concluded Very little money is saved in the re- Yeargin Co., was killed while in the that the effect is between 0 and 3 per- ductions, the cuts on OSHA. This is process of erecting scaffolding. He bent cent. about micromanaging the Department over to pick up his hammer and his Since OSHA began the Federal Gov- to achieve certain targeted objectives. safety lantern got caught in an ernment has spent over $4 billion di- There is a conspiracy to wipe out ungraded drive shaft. Mr. Powel was rectly in implementing and enforcing OSHA. There is a conspiracy to destroy dragged into the shaft and killed. the OSH Act and directed that billions the effectiveness of OSHA. Thirty- In Pennsylvania, where the head of more be spent by American employers three percent of the enforcement budg- our authorizing committee that is out to comply. Why is there so little evi- et is cut, 33 percent is cut from an al- to assassinate and destroy OSHA re- dence that OSHA has had a significant ready small work force. With the num- sides, on December 13, 1993, a Mr. effect on workplace safety and health? ber of inspectors that OSHA has pres- Rever, an employee of Hartlaub’s Used If you talk to safety and health di- ently, it would take them 86 years to Cars and Parts, was crushed to death. rectors across this country, what you inspect every business establishment in No safety chain assembly was being realize is that OSHA’s preoccupation America one time, 86 years already. used, nor was the vehicle jacked and on enforcement is not only not effec- Now they are going to cut that by one- blocked as it is supposed to be to pre- tive, but often counterproductive. Let third. There is a conspiracy. vent the falling. As a result, when Mr. me just read a few comments from a Mr. Chairman, that conspiracy is Rever used an impact wrench to re- safety and health director of a major documented in a Washington Post arti- move parts, the van fell on him, crush- printing company. cle, two articles, which appeared July ing his head and chest. During the 1980’s and my first five years 23 and 24, and I intend to submit them Mr. Chairman, this is a life and death with Donnelley, my department’s focus was in the Committee of the Whole for the matter for American workers. Not only compliance based. During this time period, RECORD, the entire two articles from the members of labor unions but all our accident rates and workers’ compensa- the Washington Post. These articles American workers are affected. Since August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8221 OSHA has existed, the number of how much commitment you have to some reality in the way it is run in deaths and injuries have gone down. We fund bureaucracies in Washington, DC. Washington, DC. must save OSHA from this micro- I would like to tell them the best I The working stiff, I heard that men- managing, and the authorizing lan- can that people in this country under- tioned 20-something times in my com- guage in this bill, which is part of the stand we can care without spending bil- mittee. I serve on the Workplace Pro- appropriations for appropriation, is lions and billions of dollars on Federal tection Subcommittee with Secretary part of the conspiracy to destroy it. bureaucracy. I care about safety in the Reich. Well, let me tell him this, that Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 workplace, but what I have been elect- in my district the average income is minutes to the gentleman from Texas ed to do is reform government so we $13,200. I am the first Republican to get [Mr. DOGGETT]. have a government that is efficient, elected in 120 years. I am the first per- Mr. DOGGETT. Mr. Chairman, there that meets the needs of the people, and son in my family to graduate college are so many cuts on middle-class work- I think our OSHA structure does not because my parents worked hard. Let ing Americans in this bill, it is hard to meet the needs of the American busi- me tell you, the working stiff has know where to start. However, one ex- nessman nor the American worker. broke the code. Caring and funding ample is an organization called the Na- When 8 out of 10 violations are paper- Federal bureaucracies do not nec- tional Institute for Occupational Safe- work violations, you can have a safe essarily go together. ty and Health, including the Southwest workplace but it may not be OSHA Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 Center at the University of Texas in safe. minute to the gentlewoman form Cali- Houston. That is not in my district, b fornia [Ms. WOOLSEY]. but what that center and other re- 1615 Ms. WOOLSEY. Mr. Chairman, this gional centers do affect people across For every dollar that you take away Congress has passed some bad legisla- this country in every congressional dis- from a small business or a large busi- tion, but this bill is worse than I ever trict. ness, that is a dollar you take out of thought possible. This program is purely scientific. It the pocket of an employee who works It actually signals the end of the is a research organization. It is headed for that business. Federal Government’s obligation, to by scientists, not by politicians, not by Mr. Chairman, reality has finally protect the health and safety of the bureaucrats, but scientists who are come home to Congress. The reality is workers of our Nation. trying to prevent injury and illness in that we are broke up here. We are look- I am a member of the Economic and the workplace, to protect people so ing at ways to save money, but we Educational Opportunities Committee, there are not lawsuits, so there is not want to do it in an efficient way with- a committee I call the Opportunity to government interference, so there is out hurting people. We can care about Cut Everything Committee and work- not an accident or an illness to start the American worker without funding ing families from across this country with. It is that program that is about OSHA at the extent that people up here have told me they are frightened by prevention, not prosecution, that is want it funded. There is not enough the new majority’s efforts to gut work- about research, not redtape, that gets money in the printing press to satisfy place health and safety rules and sup- slashed in this Republican proposal. the needs of some of the people that port. By cutting this proposal, what Re- serve in this body to fund Washington, These workers’ families tell me they publicans are doing to middle-class DC. are willing to see some of their taxes working Americans is to cut research Mr. Chairman, I had a city council- go toward enforcing health and safety to improve the protective clothing for man come up to me and talk about the rules, so that their loved ones come our firefighters, to cut research to cut EPA reforms that we are engaging in. home at night from work safe and out the investigation of new ways to He says, Congressman, what are you sound. improve respirators for our pilots, to going to do if I dump raw sewage in the Mr. Chairman, that’s a reasonable cut research in painful and debilitating river? I said, well, the EPA is going to tradeoff for our working families, and illnesses, like asbestosis and lead poi- get you, because we have not changed that’s a sound investment for our Na- soning, that affect workers in the that. That is still a bad thing to do. tion. workplace, to cut research about work- However, one thing you forget, Mr. This bill, however, makes it clear ers who get crushed by machinery, who City Councilman, is your citizens are that the GINGRICH Republicans would get crushed in accidental rollovers of going to throw you out of office. rather invest in a tax break for the fat large equipment. People care in our community. One cats, than invest in the health and Additionally, the Republicans abolish way to regulate what happens in the safety of American workers. vital training and education programs community is to have people involved I urge all Americans who care about that produced 2,700 health and safety without bureaucrats in Washington, the health and safety of their loved professionals last year. They proceed DC always being involved. What we ones to tell their representatives to op- to kill continuing education programs have done in this bill is we have re- pose this bill. that taught 150,000 working men and duced the enforcement gotcha provi- Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 women last year about the dangers of sions and we have replaced it with minute to the gentlewoman from Ohio injury and illness. The goal of all these money to help people comply. [Ms. KAPTUR]. programs is to prevent injury and ill- If you want to make your workplace Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Chairman, this bill ness before it occurs. Stop the testing, safe, we are going to reinvent govern- does not trim, it literally guts Occupa- stop the training, close the labs, turn ment so that you can come and talk tional Safety and Health by one-third out the lights. That is what this pro- with us and we will sit down and talk and will adversely impact millions of gram is all about. with you about how to make the work- workers across this country. This very Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I place safe, rather than sending in a morning an individual was killed in my am pleased to yield 4 minutes to the bunch of inspectors and take money district in an oil refinery. He was using distinguished gentleman from South out of your pocket because the paper- high pressure hydroblasting equipment Carolina [Mr. GRAHAM]. work does not add up. That is the new to clean refinery equipment, was hit by Mr. GRAHAM. Mr. Chairman, I thank Congress, that is what I got elected to water sprayed at a pressure of in excess the gentleman for yielding to me. do. of 10,000 pounds per square inch, and Mr. Chairman, I think the committee One way to make sure nobody ever was killed. This accident could have has struck a good balance with what gets hurt is to do away with the ability been prevented. we are trying to accomplish in this to have a job in America. If we do not Mr. Chairman, 55,000 workers die in Congress, and what we are trying to ac- control our spending and the way we our country and another 60,000 are per- complish in this Congress, in my opin- regulate in Washington, DC, we are not manently disabled each year in work- ion, is to fulfill the mandate of the No- going to have any workplace injuries related deaths and injuries. Just in my vember election. Unfortunately, some because nobody is going to have a job. region in the last 6 months there have of my colleagues apparently believe That is what this Congress is about, been 11 work-related fatalities, a that caring is equated and shown by trying to reinvent government with record number, two electrocutions, a H 8222 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 fall from an elevated platform where One reference I would like to make is Mr. Chairman, another area where we no fall protection was used, an individ- the economically targeted investments are spending money, for instance, and ual crushed by a forklift, a woman who which have come to light as of re- do not have to do at all, is the Presi- was working on structural steel and cently. There we have the Department dential Executive Order 12954 which was killed by a piece of that steel, a of Labor that has entered into what prohibits Federal contractors from hir- worker overcome by fumes while filling they call economically targeted invest- ing permanent replacement workers in a rail car with CO2. Let us stand up for ment, being investments in projects se- an economic strike. Now, the President people who work. Let us value life. lected primarily for the social benefits ignored completely that for 60 years Vote ‘‘no’’ on this bill. that they purport to generate rather the established labor law in America Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 than the financial return and safety was that the workers did, indeed, and minute to the gentleman from New that they would give to America’s pen- do, indeed, have the right to strike. Jersey [Mr. PAYNE]. sioners. Also, as a last resort which no em- (Mr. PAYNE asked and was given We are talking here about the ERISA ployer wants to ever utilize, the em- permission to revise and extend his re- law, which has been a tremendous suc- ployer has the right to hire permanent marks.) cess in this Nation, by the way, and it replacement workers in a economic Mr. PAYNE. Mr. Chairman, I am here is private financing which is going into strike if indeed he finds that he has no to speak out against the 25-percent re- the private infrastructure in invest- other course but to go out of business duction to the National Institute for ments. It is all done voluntarily by em- if he cannot take that particular Occupational Safety and Health. ployers under the ERISA law. course. NIOSH is the only Federal agency Now, it is amazing to me that the Under that law for the last 20 years President would just go ahead and take charged with conducting research to we have had this tremendously effec- identify the causes of work injuries and this action when there is no implied tive private pension plan project in right, no basis in law under the pro- diseases and develop approaches by this land of ours, the fiduciaries of which workers can be protected. This is curement law, which he claims is his ERISA and the pension plans rely upon basis, to be able to enact a law like not to be confused with OSHA. OSHA what is called the prudent man rule, does not conduct research, although this. Presidents cannot just simply de- which is a very simple, basic rule that clare what the law shall be. It is not they rely on it. is well understood by the fiduciary Every day 17 Americans die from only not based on any kind of law, but community, the investment commu- also it is unconstitutional. work injuries and illnesses. Every week nity, in this land. 67,000 workers are disabled by work- Mr. Chairman, we should think on Along comes the Department of place injuries and illnesses. What is these things as we criticize what this Labor, and they issue what is called an more disappointing is the fact that new Congress is trying to do. interpretation of the prudent man rule, Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 most of these illnesses and injuries are which is Interpretive Bulletin-94 that minutes to the distinguished gen- preventable. was issued in February 1994, where they tleman from Missouri [Mr. CLAY]. NIOSH has been making a difference try to interpret what is a socially bene- (Mr. CLAY asked and was given per- to working men and women. Research ficial investment, basically. Then, they mission to revise and extend his re- and studies conducted by NIOSH has follow that up by contracting for more marks.) led to a reduction in work-related inju- than $1 million to implement what Mr. CLAY. Mr. Chairman, let me tell ries, however, we still have a long way they refer to as a clearinghouse. my colleagues what the cut proposed in to go. This was done in September 1994. In- this bill to the budget of the Pension In July 1991, a 47-year old female had and Welfare Benefits Administration her entire scalp from the back of the deed, they went ahead, without any congressional clearance, to give a con- [PWBA] will mean to working people neck to the browline removed. and their families. Other workers have needed amputation and tract to Hamilton Securities Advisory Services at a cost of over $1 million to It means that a New York woman on average about 16 workers have been killed who needed emergency surgery to cor- annually in entanglements involving rotating design and develop and operate a clear- inghouse for the promotion, basically, rect problems related to her breast drive lines on agricultural machinery. cancer would have faced bankruptcy to of these economically targeted invest- In 1991, NIOSH eased public concern over pay her hospitals bills. ments. an unknown hazard and a possible link be- It means that a group of Kansas City tween use of video display terminals and a But the word that the financial com- employees would have lost all the hard- cluster of miscarriages. munity gives to the Department of earned money they contributed to At that time, there were over 7 million Labor is, do not waste these millions of their employer’s profit sharing plan women operating video display terminals dollars in that regard. Do not promote when the employer failed to forward [VDTs] and there had been widespread con- or encourage or push any specific class their payroll deductions. cern that the cause of the highly publicized of investments. You do not have to do It means that more than 13,00 annu- clusters of miscarriages among workers were that, because we have a very effective itants of terminated pension plans caused because of exposure to VDTs. But working prudent man rule in this land would not have been protected with a thanks to NIOSH, these stories have happy which has worked very well in regard guarantee of more than $200 million endings. NIOSH published the definitive report to what is a proper investment being when their insurance company failed that found no connection between VDTs and made in the private pension commu- and went into receivership. These are miscarriages. The NIOSH relieved anxiety of nity. examples of the conscientious people both employers and workers. Of course, what the Department of the PWBA helps. We must continue to protect our nation's Labor would like to do is to be able to Mr. Chairman, this bill will seriously workers. Do not support these cuts. look at that $3.5 trillion of pension endanger the security of workers’ pen- Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield funds which are out there, having been sions and health benefits. It will make 5 minutes to the gentleman from Illi- successfully invested, and they would hard earned pensions and benefits nois [Mr. FAWELL]. like to, of course, steer those invest- much more vulnerable to thieves and Mr. FAWELL. Mr. Chairman, I cer- ments into what they deem to be so- scoundrels. This bill could be called the tainly rise in support of this legisla- cially correct, but that simply is not ‘‘Pension Grab Authorization Act.’’ tion. required. If economically targeted in- The Republicans propose to slash the I would like to make reference to vestments are just as sound as other budget for the Pension and Welfare several of the labor references which investments, which is what the Depart- Benefits Administration for fiscal year are in the legislation. We have heard a ment of Labor likes to say, then pro- 1996. The PWBA is a lean, mean pen- lot of talk about the fact that there are moting them through a clearinghouse sion watchdog. In fact, a recent Brook- tragic cuts being made here, but people at a cost of over $1 million just to get ings Institution report praised the often overlook some of the labor legis- it started is superfluous, because the PWBA as ‘‘The most highly leveraged lation we have on our books which are market obviously will direct capital to operation in the entire Federal govern- wasting a great deal of money. them. ment.’’ On average a single employee of August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8223 the PWBA oversees $4.8 billion in as- cumstances as one bad amendment nates 176 overlapping programs—help- sets. So while the Republicans talk after another was attached to his bill ing to move us toward a balanced budg- about eliminating wasteful bureau- during the full Appropriations Commit- et by 2002. The bill also increases fund- crats, they contradict themselves with tee consideration. Unfortunately, this ing for the National Institutes of this cut. And while the Republicans bill has now become a tar baby. Health, cuts the bureaucracy at the talk about protecting pensions, they Through no fault of the chairman, the Department of Health and Human contradict themselves with this cut. Labor-HHS-Education bill is now fa- Services, maintains funding for com- Three trillion dollars in pension and tally flawed. munity and migrant health centers and health assets covering more than 200 Let me enumerate some of the prob- increases Pell grant levels. It reforms million Americans are protected by the lems I have with this bill. First, it con- labor and OSHA rules that are in need agency. This enormous amount of tains extremely restrictive language on of reform. Coming out of the sub- money is an inviting target for flim- a woman’s right to choose. It prohibits committee it was a good bill. flam artists and embezzlers. from receiving Federal funds ob/gyn Unfortunately, with the changes Last year, the PWBA responded to residency programs that provide abor- made in the full committee, the bad 158,000 requests for assistance. And its tion training. The message we are outweighs the good in this bill and I cases resulted in 141 criminal indict- sending is that while abortion is legal must oppose it. ments and restored $482 million in pen- in our country, we are not going to Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 sion wealth to workers. But if the Re- train physicians on how to safely per- minutes to the gentleman from Califor- publicans have their way, $100 million form this procedure. This is an unprec- nia [Mr. MILLER]. that belongs to workers won’t be recov- edented Government intrusion into (Mr. MILLER of California asked and ered. One out of five pension thieves medical education. was given permission to revise and ex- the agency would have indicted will be Second, this bill contains a provision tend his remarks.) able to commit fraud with no repercus- which allows Federal funds to be avail- Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Chair- sions. And 30,000 requests for informa- able for abortion under Medicaid in the man, we can argue over the size of the tion and assistance from working fami- cases of life of the mother, rape, or in- budget cuts, but we also know that lies concerned about their health care cest. However, States are only required very often a budget cut of not a tre- and pension benefits won’t be an- to provide abortions under Medicaid in mendous amount can cripple an agen- swered. the case of life of the mother. cy, and that is unfortunately what our Mr. Chairman, despite their claims to This language was added during full colleagues on the other side of the aisle the contrary, the Republicans are will- committee consideration of the bill as intended to do when they sought the ing to jeopardize workers’ hard-earned a States’ rights issue. I had an amend- cuts against the National Labor Rela- pensions and benefits by gutting the ment, that was not made in order, tions Board. PWBA. Vote against this bill. which would have reinstated the cur- This is the arbiter of America’s rent Hyde language that makes Medic- workplace. This is where employers b 1630 aid abortions available in cir- and employees go to get a resolution to Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 cumstances involving life of the moth- the conflicts that erupt in the work- minute to the gentlewoman from Ohio er, rape, or incest. But, it would relieve place. This is where employers go to [Ms. KAPTUR]. the States of any financial participa- get issues resolved, and employees go Ms. KAPTUR. Mr. Chairman, the tion in cases of rape or incest if they so they can go back to work, they can massive crippling in this bill of the Na- choose not to fund them. go about their business, they can pro- tional Labor Relations Board is a puni- Last year, there were all of two Med- vide for their families, they can pro- tive effort to restrict the agency re- icaid-funded abortions in the entire vide for their businesses and get on sponsible for ensuring the rights of country in cases of rape and incest. with life. workers to organize and bargain collec- This amendment was a fair com- But what has happened is that they tively. promise for Members who support now seek to attack the National Labor This agency was created in 1935 to States’ rights, but who recognize that Relations Act both through the budget bring order and reduce violence in poor women who are pregnant as a re- and legislative language that would labor organization disputes. The agen- sult of a heinous crime like rape or in- prevent the National Labor Relations cy has served our Nation for over 60 cest should not be discriminated Board from seeking an injunction if years, guarding against unfair labor against in the process. Unfortunately, they find activities, by both unions and practices by both employers and em- Members of this body will not have the employers, which are so egregious that ployees. chance to vote on the Kolbe-Pryce- they prevent a fair election from tak- Mr. colleagues who want to gut the Fowler amendment. I therefore will ing place. They want to enjoin those NLRB should consider whether or not sponsor with Congresswomen LOWEY actions. The National Labor Relations they really want disputes to be settled and MORELLA a motion to strike this Board does not enjoin those actions; back in the streets, because that is language—though I would have pre- they go to the district court and they where we are heading. In fact, with ferred my reasonable alternative. make a case. these massive cuts, it is going to take Third, the bill zeros out critical Now they are changing the number of over 1,000 days before decisions are ren- money for family planning services— votes you will need on the board to go dered by the NLRB. By disabling this though we have an opportunity to re- and get that injunction. Why? Because agency, this bill strikes a hard blow store this when we take up the Green- one of our colleagues is upset with the against working Americans. wood amendment. rendering of an injunction against Mr. Chairman, let us stand up for Finally, this bill includes a measure Overnight Transportation Co., whose working families. Let us vote ‘‘no’’ on which provides for much needed Fed- actions were so egregious that in 19 re- this bill. eral grant reform. I strongly support gions, action after action was sought Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 the substance of this measure which against them because of what they minutes to the gentleman from Tuc- will curb Federal subsidies for political were doing to their employees, with- son, AZ [Mr. KOLBE], my colleague on advocacy groups. I have serious res- holding wage increases and promotions the Committee on Appropriations. ervations, however, about attaching and the job opportunities of anybody Mr. KOLBE. Mr. Chairman, I rise to this very complicated and large bill to who wanted to organize that work- discuss the Labor-HHS-Education bill an appropriations bill without the ben- place. before us today. Although we are now efit of hearings or a markup in the au- They made a determination that a on title I, my comments are more gen- thorizing committee. fair election could not be conducted eral in nature. I wish that I could stand here today unless the injunction was offered. Chairman PORTER deserves credit for and tell you I support this bill. It is in What did our colleagues from Arkan- the outstanding job he has done in his line with the budget resolution. It re- sas do? They wrote a letter and threat- subcommittee. He has been patient in duces overall spending by $6.8 billion ened the National Labor Relations the face of extremely difficult cir- over current funding levels and termi- Board and they said, ‘‘If you issue this H 8224 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 injunction, we have the ability to take Donnie says that because of the Mine And, the bad news just keeps coming action against you,’’ and they did. Safety Administration his line of work for my State. We now face a plant clo- They cut their budget by 30 percent to is much safer today than it was in 1974 sure at the AlliedSignal tank engine cripple the agency. but he warns that we cannot go back to plant in Stratford, CT, in my district. Mr. Chairman, this means that busi- the kind of loose regulation we used to The decision by the Army to close this nesses and worker organizations will be have in the mining industry. He says facility will mean that we lose another stymied in their efforts to reconcile that the $15 million cuts that this bill 1,400 jobs. These workers in Connecti- the differences that exist in the work- will impose in Federal mine safety ef- cut, and workers like them all across place, but it also means that the Na- forts will do just that and that we the country, need our help. tional Labor Relations Board that uses should defeat this bill. Defense workers aren’t looking for a injunctions in only 6 percent of the Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 handout. They’re looking for a helping cases against unions and 2 percent of minutes to the gentleman from To- hand. After years of working to main- the cases against employees, but egre- peka, KS [Mr. BROWNBACK]. tain our country’s strong national de- gious cases they are, will now be ren- Mr. BROWNBACK. Mr. Chairman, I fense, these workers are now being told dered ineffective from doing that. That rise in strong support of the bill today. that their skills are no longer needed. is the goal. The bill does a number of things that Their work helped us win the cold war, That is what is wrong with this legis- I think are very important and nec- but now they are the ones being left in lation. Time and again, we see private essary. What it does immediately is, it the cold. agendas coming into appropriations makes tough choices and it does it The Republican leaders in this House bills to undermine the laws of this now. It cuts $11.1 billion out of a $256 say they are cutting across the board country. If you have a problem with billion set of funding. It does so now in order to balance the budget. They the National Labor Relations Board, and does not put off future decisions so want us to believe that this is a shared we have an Education and Labor Com- that we do not have higher deficits into sacrifice for a noble purpose. mittee. We will deal with that just as the future. But, this sacrifice is not shared and we are dealing with OSHA. Mr. Chairman, I have heard a lot of But that is not what is going on in it is not noble. There is nothing noble talk on the floor recently about private in asking people who are out of work to this legislation, Mr. Chairman. There agendas or that we need to help people is a private agenda, and there are cam- pay for a tax cut for the wealthiest out. We clearly do. I would contend the Americans. paign contributions, and threatening best way to do that is to pass bills like letters by Members of Congress to an Mr. Chairman, we have an obligation this one that cut back on Government to help our displaced defense workers. agency. When that does not work, be- funding. They cut back on Government cause they are an independent agency, We have an obligation to provide them programs so we can get to balance. with the training and education they we now see them being punished in the The cruelest thing we can do to the legislative process. need to get back on their feet. This bill people of our Nation is to continue to It is unconscionable that a nation- fails our obligation to defense workers add to this deficit. This bill terminates wide independent agency like the Na- and that’s why I will oppose it. tional Labor Relations Board would be 170 programs, so we can get to balance, Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 threatened and then stricken with and it does so now. It is what we need minutes to the gentleman from Lexing- to do. these kinds of budget cuts and this ton, NE [Mr. BARRETT], a member of Mr. Chairman, this is not a private kind of punitive action against them, the Committee on Economic and Edu- agenda; this is a nation’s agenda of bal- when in fact they provide the basis on cational Opportunities. ancing the budget, and that is what we which workers and employers can get a Mr. BARRETT of Nebraska. Mr. have got to do. We have a nation’s fair shake about the terms and the con- Chairman, I rise in support of the pro- agenda of balancing the budget, and it ditions of working in that place of em- vision in H.R. 2127, that would prohibit involves making tough choices. ployment. the enforcement of President Clinton’s Mr. Chairman, the committee has Mr. Chairman, we now believe we Executive order, banning the use of done an excellent job of doing that. I have the most productive workers in permanent replacement workers on commend them and rise in strong sup- the world in any industry we point to, Federal contracts of $100,000 or more. port of this bill. but what we do here is a deliberate at- To put it simply, I believe that the tempt to go after those workers to sty- b 1645 President’s Executive order is uncon- mie their ability, to get a decision ren- Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 stitutional, and is a direct challenge to dered on a timely basis so that they the prerogatives of the Congress to set can get on with providing for their minutes to the gentlewoman from Con- necticut [Ms. DELAURO]. labor law. The President’s order—in families. the opinion of many—is nothing but a This legislation, time and again, Ms. DELAURO. Mr. Chairman, I rise backroom deal to coddle favor with strikes, through legislative language, to strong opposition to this assault on labor unions, and is a direct challenge on an appropriation against the protec- working men and women made to pay to decades of well-established labor law tions that workers need, against the for a tax cut for the wealthy. This bill which permits the use of permanent re- protection that employers need, so doesn’t just pull the rug out from placement workers. that they can conduct productive under American workers, it pulls out Allowing employers to hire perma- workplaces. the entire floor. Mr. Chairman, I urge my colleagues The deepest cut is made in crucial nent replacement workers has been a to vote against the legislation. worker training and education pro- long-standing right that employers Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 grams that help displaced workers get have used, though sparingly, in order minute to the gentleman from Ken- back into the workforce. That cut is to countermand the union’s use of the tucky [Mr. WARD]. shortsighted and wrongheaded. strike. I wouldn’t say that either op- Mr. WARD. Mr. Chairman, I want to The American people are this coun- tion in today’s workplace is perfect, tell this House about someone who try’s greatest asset as we try to com- but it has provided a careful balance took off work to travel all the way to pete in a global economy. But, this bill that has enabled neither side to claim Washington to argue against this bill. puts people dead last. It puts working an unfair advantage. His name is Donnie McDonald. Donnie families dead last. It says—if you lose Instead of allowing this issue to be worked at the Canny Creek mine in your job, you’re on your own. settled by Congress, the President has Muhlenberg County, KY, from 1963 to I know about the need for worker re- circumvented Congress and has allowed 1989. training. I live in a State that has lost purely political goals to enter into the In 1974, Donnie was in an accident more than 200,000 jobs over the last fray of employer-employee relations. where a loaded coal rail car fell on him several years. Many of those jobs have As a member of the Economic and He lost his arm and was off work for 6 been lost because of the defense build Educational Opportunities Committee, months. But he went back to work and down. Many of those jobs aren’t com- I believe the committee has rightfully worked for another 16 years. ing back. recognized the improper use of the August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8225 President’s Executive order, by report- in our country, has grown since 1983 both sides of the aisle, that you do not ing out H.R. 1176, which would make from a level of about $1.5 trillion to want your constituents’ money tam- the order null and void. about $4.8 trillion today, you know, pered with in an unsafe investment ei- Mr. Chairman, the provision in H.R. that is kind of hard to relate to. But if ther. 2127 preserves the right of Congress to I said to you that particularly people This bill cuts back on funding that set labor laws, and would reverse a who are beginning to think about re- Secretary Reich and his staff are using dangerous precedent-setting Executive tirement that that pot of money is for the purpose of encouraging pension order. I urge my colleagues to vote where your paycheck is going to come fund managers to make these invest- against any amendment to strike these from after you retire and that it should ments. provisions. be protected with all due diligence, Now, we have lots of information Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 that would be interesting. that says that these are not good in- minutes to the gentleman from Mon- So let me talk about that for a vestments and they are not safe. For tana [Mr. WILLIAMS]. minute, because the Clinton adminis- example, in one study at the Univer- Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. Chairman, I en- tration, particularly Secretary of sity of Pennsylvania, Olivia Mitchell courage my colleagues and others to Labor Robert Reich, has done some determined that the public pension examine what we have just heard from things over the last year which I think funds which were required to make cer- the last speaker. This is a situation, or are very unsettling for people who are tain investments generated lower rates as Ross Perot used to say, here is the beginning to think about retirement, of interest, lower returns, and were less deal. You are an American worker, you particularly if their savings for their safe. are under contract, your employer vio- old age are invested in private retire- So I urge everyone to support this lates the contract. What is left for you ment funds, because you see, in June bill the way it is. to do? Well, you probably try that 1993, Secretary Reich reinterpreted the Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 cherished American right: You with- law that provides safeguards for those minute to the gentleman from New hold your labor in protest. savings in private pension funds. Jersey [Mr. ANDREWS]. Most Americans support that. Not Secretary Reich calls the program (Mr. ANDREWS asked and was given these Republicans. They say if you go economically targeted investments. permission to revise and extend his re- to that cherished American right of What he is saying to the people that marks.) withholding your labor, you are fired, manage all of that money for us so Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Chairman, I you’re fired. You are a woman, kids at that we can retire with it, ‘‘We want to thank the gentleman for yielding me home, you are trying to make it, you change the rules a little bit to permit this time. have this job, you are fired, you lose you to do some things that you were Mr. Chairman, we do not need to look health care. Same thing with a man, of not permitted to do before,’’ because, at theories or predictions as to what course. You lose your position, you before, they were considered to be too will happen when OSHA is cut the way lose your retirement, you lose your risky and, in my opinion, while noth- it is cut in this bill. I think OSHA is a tenure, you lose everything you put in ing has changed to make the things agency in need of reform, and I am sure that company, you are fired. that Secretary Reich would like us to there are some bureaucrats in OSHA Somebody is permanently hired for do less risky, he wants us to go ahead who are not necessary and who ought your job, and you are not offered it and begin to invest in other kinds of to go. That is not what this bill is back. You are fired. Why? Because you things with other people’s money that going to do. dared to withhold your labor, because they are saving for their retirement. Make no mistake about it, this bill the boss broke his part of your deal, his Now, I think it is a bad idea. means fewer inspectors, fewer inspec- part of the contract. But you? You are For years, what the gentleman from tions, and more risks for workers. We fired. Illinois [Mr. FAWELL] refers to often as do not need to theorize or guess what Bill Clinton, President Clinton, said, the ‘‘prudent man’’ rule was followed, happens when you have too few inspec- well, we are not going to let you use and in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s, tors or too few inspections. Federal money to do that, to fire these private pension funds began to have We do not have to look to the future. people. If you have a job and the tax- some problems, and so in 1974, and I We can look to September 1991, in payers are paying for it, you cannot think correctly, the Congress passed a Hamlet, NC, when the North Carolina fire these American citizens just be- law known as the Employee Retire- Occupational Safety and Health Ad- cause they withhold their labor under ment Income Security Act, which we ministration, with too few inspectors, the law, legally withhold their labor. refer to as ERISA. It says clearly that too few inspections, underfunded, per- The Republicans say oh, yes, you can, the people that manage those moneys mitted a facility, a chicken packing you can fire them. That is extremism in private pension funds must follow plant that had committed egregious run nuts, and that is what is in this one rule, that those moneys must be violations prior to September of 1991, bill, extremism run nuts. invested for the sole purpose of provid- to create a situation where 25 people Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 ing benefits to the participant in the burned to death. That is what we have minutes to the gentleman from Mount plan, the sole purpose. Secretary Reich to look for. That is why we should op- Holly, NJ [Mr. SAXTON]. would like us to do some other things pose this bill. Mr. SAXTON. Mr. Chairman, I thank with the money and is encouraging Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 the gentleman for yielding me this pension fund managers to do so, to in- minute to the gentleman from Massa- time. vest in socially good programs, to chusetts [Mr. OLVER]. Mr. Chairman, if I said to all the make social investments, to invest in Mr. OLVER. Mr. Chairman, I thank folks here who are in this room that I housing projects, to prop up a failing the gentleman for yielding me this wanted to talk to you for a couple of company if it means jobs for a commu- time. minutes about how pension fund man- nity. I want to tell this House today about agers invest pension moneys, I would They are worthy goals, but if I want someone who came to Washington to see a bunch of people yawn and you the moneys that I am investing for my argue against this bill. This is the gen- would all think it was pretty boring, old age in a private pension fund in- tleman that I am speaking about. His and you would be right. But if I said to vested in those kinds of investments, name is Jim Hale. He is a resident of you that I want to talk to you about then I will take my IRA fund and in- Chattanooga, TN. your pension check when you retire, vest in some social good. He works in the construction indus- the size of it and the security of it, and Most people do not choose to do that, try. He is opposing this bill because his to be sure that it would come every and Secretary Reich, in my opinion, brother was killed 30 years ago at the month, I am sure there would be a lot should not be encouraging pension fund age of 23 in a construction accident. more interest. managers to do that with my money ei- Jim will tell you that construction is But if I said to you and anybody else ther and the money of all the Ameri- a dangerous trade under the best of cir- that could hear that the pension fund, cans, the 600,000 or so that I represent, cumstances, and he will tell you that total amount of pension fund moneys and I think you will agree, Members on since he started working, it has become H 8226 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 much safer, that it is safer because Krist Oil Co. in Michigan and Wiscon- Along with Silvio Conte I helped cre- Federal rules that require employers to sin. In 1993 a man by the name of Rich- ate at OSHA the first fine-free con- take steps have made it safer in these ard Johnson found out that their pay sultation service, and we provided for last 30 years or so. Jim believes that was being cut by being required to per- some narrow exemptions in the case of his brother might be alive today, that form additional duties for insufficient small business and small farms. We did his brother would have had an oppor- compensation. They met at a park to that all on a bipartisan basis. tunity to get married and raise kids if discuss what appeared to them to be a Mr. Chairman, I would urge our Re- the protections that we have today had wage crisis. They wrote a letter po- publican friends not to walk away from been there in the 1960’s, and he feels so litely raising a number of questions. a bipartisan commitment to OSHA, to strongly about that that he took off Two days later the company fired Mr. OSHA enforcement and worker protec- work and came here to oppose this leg- Johnson, in part, it conceded later, be- tion. I urge them not to make this islation that takes us back to the 19th cause of that letter. Cashiers Yvonne issue a partisan issue. Vote against century. Mains and Jodi Creten were fired after this bill because of these provisions. presenting the complaints by their Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield b 1700 store employees to a supervisor during 5 minutes to the gentleman from Penn- Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 a meeting at one of their homes. Mains sylvania [Mr. GOODLING]. minute to the gentleman from Califor- told the boss that the employees were Mr. GOODLING. Mr. Chairman, I nia [Mr. TUCKER]. considering contacting the union. The yield to the gentleman from Illinois Mr. TUCKER. Mr. Chairman, I thank company wrote a letter notifying [Mr. FAWELL] for a response to the gen- the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. Mains of her termination because she tleman from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY]. OBEY] for yielding this time to me. was, quote, creating a mutinous situa- Mr. FAWELL. Mr. Chairman, I sim- Mr. Chairman, I rise today to say tion, end of quote. Again the NLRB ply wanted to respond to the previous that the appropriations bill before us is used their injunctive relief to provide speaker when he indicated that the fraught with cuts in programs that are those workers with help. That would be 10(j) injunction had been eliminated. important to the working men and gone under this bill. Now that just is not so. The 10(j) in- women of this entire country, a 30-per- Wilen Manufacturing Co.: On June 2 junction will be alive and well. It will cent cut in the National Labor Rela- of 1994 the union was certified on the require the usual equitable grounds to tions Board, a 33-percent cut in OSHA, day of the election itself. The employer be shown before one gets a preliminary elimination of the summer youth em- interrogated employees about their injunction, because a preliminary in- ployment program, and cuts in funding election, about their election votes, junction means they get the final de- for job training for dislocated workers. and threatened them with discharge termination ahead of time, but under- The working men and women of this and other reprisals for voting for the standably they must be able to show a Nation deserve our gratitude and our union. The board sought 10(j) injunc- likelihood of success, an irrevocable thanks, Mr. Chairman, for a job well tive relief in order to prevent further and irreparable harm, and a balance of done. Instead we offer this bill which damage to the workers. the hardships between the complainant guts the very programs and protections and the respondent, and that the in- One example of workers who are not we, as a Congress, created for them. We junction relief is in accordance with protected: should reward them for their hard public interest. work, not punish them. On August 28, 1989, the Gary Enter- So, that is the accurate way of set- There is much more than just the prises company fired Jerry Whitaker ting that forth. labor provisions that are wrong with for having previously filed an unfair Mr. GOODLING. Mr. Chairman, the this bill. This bill is fraught with all labor practice charge with the Board. American system of collective bargain- kinds of problems, but the labor provi- The Board decided in Mr. Whitaker’s ing is based on the balancing of inter- sions are enough in and of themselves favor. The company ignored both the est and risk, including the right to to say no to this bill, and, therefore, I Board and the report. After being dis- strike, the right to maintain business urge my colleagues to say no to this charged, Whitaker had a hard time operations during a strike, if nec- bill. finding work, and finally took a job essary, by hiring replacement workers. Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- hauling logs. He had a heart condition, The executive order takes away this self 5 minutes. and frequently complained to his wife balance in the Federal contractor Mr. Chairman, I know that there is a that the driving job was killing him. arena. Permanent replacement is not drive here to provide a great deal of de- He was required to spend nights away the same as being fired. Permanently regulation in order to provide much from home, and had no money for lodg- replaced workers have a right to be re- more freedom in this society. That ings. He slept in his truck. One morn- called until they get equivalent em- may very well be legitimate, but I ing, while the contempt case was pend- ployment, and they may vote in union think we ought to ask who is going to ing before the court, Whitaker was elections for 12 months. But the issue be free, what will they be free to do, found dead in his truck from a heart in relationship to this legislation is and who will they do it to? attack at age 55. The Board is still try- who has the responsibility under our I want to give my colleagues some ing to collect the backpay owed to his form of government to legislate, who examples of who they will do it to. estate by the company. writes the laws, who passes the laws. I Take Jack Gray Transport, Inc. Truck That is the kind of case that today do not think there is anybody in this drivers who worked in their facility in could be considered for the injunctive Chamber, anybody in the Congress, North Carolina began an organizing relief which is being squeezed out of anybody in the United States, that campaign in January of 1994, and they the law by the legislative provision in does not understand under our form of signed cards trying to recognize the this bill. government we do that, not the execu- union. In response their employer coer- People on that side of the aisle talk tive branch, and what the President cively interrogated those employees about OSHA as though it was created has done is usurped our power, and we about their union activity, they by a bunch of left-wing social engi- should guard our power jealously. The threatened them with a loss of jobs if neers. The father of the OSHA statute separation of powers was put together they did not sign a letter disavowing was a man by the mane of Bill Steiger, very carefully, and we should make support for the union, and finally they a respected Republican Member of Con- sure that we guard that. laid off eight members of the organiz- gress from Wisconsin who, when I came So, the issue is who has the respon- ing committee. Based on the facts, the to this House as a freshman, was my sibility to legislate, who has the re- district court used the injunctive relief best friend here. sponsibility to pass laws, and the an- at NLRB which is now available to pre- We have had some successes under swer is very clearly we in the Congress vent further action by that company, OSHA. The fatality rate is down 57 per- of the United States. and they helped save those workers’ cent for workers in this country, and Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 jobs. That injunctive authority would OSHA has contributed to that in a very minutes to the gentlewoman from Cali- be eliminated by this bill. significant way. fornia [Ms. PELOSI]. August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8227 Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I again ing power.’’ Continuing our investment The $26 million that I put in that par- thank the gentleman from Wisconsin in dislocated workers is essential. ticular amendment was done only after [Mr. OBEY], the ranking member, for Of all the cuts in this bill, it is so I had tried to find some way to do oth- yielding this time to me and for his very difficult to understand why, with erwise. leadership on these workers’ issues. I all of our talk of free trade, et cetera, First, when the NLRB came to our think it was perfectly appropriate that we will not deliver on our promise to committee, I asked them, ‘‘Please help he closed his part of the debate on this dislocated workers who are affected by us find a way to cut this particular de- in speaking about individuals and how that kind of change. partment. Will you do that?’’ The this policy so cruelly affects them and Mr. Chairman, American workers are asnwer was no. I got the general coun- speaking in their own words. I, too, the engine of our economy. They must sel, the general counsel of the 628 law- want to bring to the attention of our be treated with dignity and respect. yer law firm to come to the office, and colleagues and individual case of how They also deserve a safe workplace. De- I said, ‘‘Will you help me? Will you tell people are affected by the cuts in this spite our budget challenges, we should me just what you can do to cut the ex- legislation. I want to tell the House not retreat on worker protections. Cuts penses created by these 628 lawyers?’’ about someone who traveled to Wash- that will result in increased workplace The eighth largest law firm in the ington all the way from California to accidents and fatalities will cost our United States was in his jurisdiction, argue against this bill. Her name is society. and I said, ‘‘Can you help? He says, Beverly Reagan, and she is a Repub- There is only one word to describe ‘‘Oh, heaven sakes, I cannot do that be- lican. She votes Republican, but came this, Mr. Chairman: Shame. cause we have such a caseload.’’ I said, here to fight against the passage of Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 ‘‘Is there nothing we can do?’’ He said, this bill. minute to the gentleman from New ‘‘No, there is nothing we can do.’’ Beverly is a food service worker. She York [Mr. ENGEL]. Mr. Chairman, I said, ‘‘OK, if they works for private contractors at a U.S. Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Chairman, I thank are going to stonewall us and say no to Navy base. Repeatedly these contrac- the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. that and not help us, from their posi- tors have won bids to operate food OBEY] for yielding this time to me. tion of expertise, then we were going to service facilities and then failed to This entire bill just shows how mean- have to cut blindly in some way to get make the pension and health insurance spirited and radical the Republicans their attention and help the American benefits that were required under the have been with this proposal, and it people and reach this deficit.’’ terms of the contract. really is for shame because from the Here is what they have at the NLRB, Beverly and her coworkers have had moment this Congress began we have and maybe others can tell me if there the experience of going to the doctor seen the majority try to hurt working is anyplace to cut. There are over 2,000 and finding that the health insurance men and women of America, we have employees. I have mentioned that it is that they thought was there to cover seen them purge the name of Labor the eight largest law firm in the United their expenses was not there at all. She from the old Education and Labor States. They have 628 lawyers that is not alone. Tens of thousands of Committee, we have seen them refuse they let loose on American business Americans find themselves in the same to raise the minimum wage, we have and industry. Each NLRB Commis- situation each year. And like Beverly, seen them cut OSHA now here by about sioner has between 18 and 22 lawyers the only recourse they have is the Pen- a third. More American workers are assigned to him or her. going to die and be injured on the job sion and Welfare Benefit Program in Mr. Chairman, our Supreme Court because of these OSHA cuts. We have the Department of Labor. Justices, with all of their responsibil- seen them slice the National Labor Re- This bill cuts that program. ities and load, only have five. So we lations Board which monitors unfair have all the way from 18 to 22 for the I urge my colleagues to do what Bev- labor practices. We see them slice NLRB Commissioners, each one have erly is asking and vote against this money, cut money, for dislocated that many lawyers, and the Supreme bill, protect the health benefits and workers. Court Justices only have 5. They have pension plans of our constituents, and Why hypocrisy. We talk about get- a D.C. office building that pays rent of vote ‘‘no’’ on this legislation. This is ting people off the welfare rolls, and $21 million per year. It costs $21 mil- only one of many cuts in the bill that here we have workers that are losing lion a year for rent to keep up a house deal harshly with the American work- their jobs, and we want to cut funding for these lawyers, to keep them going. er. The cuts in these seven programs to help them locate new jobs; Davis- for worker protection, along with a Bacon, which pays prevailing wage, In Los Angeles alone they have three long list of legislation provisions limit- that is cut. different offices so they can have more ing the authority of agencies to enforce So, we have a pattern here, and this lawyers closer to business and indus- child labor laws, laws which protect bill fits that pattern. try, to interrupt the business and to in- workers’ right to organize, and regula- In my 7 years in Congress this is the terrupt workloads and cost our econ- tions to protect occupational safety, most disgraceful appropriations bill I omy untold amounts of money. Here and language blocking the President’s have ever seen, and it ought to be de- these people are saying they do not Executive order regarding striker re- feated. have any room for cuts. They are not placements constitute a war on the going to help us with this. There are 50 American worker. b 1715 field offices. When I was interrupted by the gavel Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield Mr. Chairman, we went to the com- earlier, I was talking about this dis- 5 minutes to the gentleman from Ar- mittee, and after some hour and a half, located worker assistance program kansas [Mr. DICKEY], a member of the maybe 2 hours of listening to the com- which I want to call to our colleagues’ Committee on Appropriations. mittee members talking about title I attention once again, which is being Mr. DICKEY. Mr. Chairman, I have a for the children and Head Start for the cut in this legislation by 34 percent. button here that I am not allowed to children, this 15 percent was not sent This means that 193,000 workers who wear, but I will show it. It says, ‘‘Why back that we were going to cut in this lose their jobs in 1996 through no fault does the NLRB have 628 lawyers?’’ amendment. It was not sent back to of their own will not receive training. Why does the NLRB have 628 law- the deficit, it was not taken to any Rapid advancements in technology, de- yers? What happened in committee other programs except Head Start. fense downsizing, corporate restructur- with the NLRB appropriation was Mr. Chairman, we have 628 lawyers ing, and intense global competition re- something like this. The chairman on this side and we have all these chil- sult in structural changes necessary came in with a 15 percent reduction in dren in Head Start, and there are some for economical growth. This program the NLRB budget. I did not think that persuasive arguments that Head Start, works. The inspector general has re- was enough so I scurried around and in fact, is needed. I said, ‘‘We will take ported that workers served by this pro- got an amendment together, and I said the $26 million from the lawyers and gram ‘‘were reemployed, remained in 15 percent more is what is more like it. put it over here in Head Start. Will you the workforce and regained their earn- A total of $52 million in reductions. vote for this particular provisio if that H 8228 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 is the case?’’ Eight people on that com- older Americans was safe from the ma- For example, if we look at adult job mittee said, yes, they would vote for jority’s budget ax. The 60 percent, or training and we look at the Depart- that; that lawyers are not in the prior- over $2 billion, cut in employment and ment’s own reviews, they indicate the ity position when you compare them related training means that 194,000 dis- program is not very effective. The in- with children. We will take from law- located workers, individuals laid-off spector general audit reports indicated yers and give to the children. The lib- through no fault of their own, will be only 53 percent of the participants in erals on that committee, to the person, denied the re-employment and skills the adult job training obtained jobs. all five, said, no, we will vote for the training services they desperately need Furthermore, of the ones who got jobs, lawyers. We will keep the $26 million in to re-enter the work force; 80,000 Amer- half said they found them without this burgeoning legal intrusive type of icans will no longer have access to the JTPA assistance. Last year the IG tes- department, one that will not tell us employment training they need to tified the program is being asked to ad- what to cut. We would rather go with compete in the job market; 3 million dress educational failures, physical de- lawyers than children. individuals will be denied vocational pendencies, and emotional and physical Mr. Chairman, I tell everyone this education skills training they need to disabilities with no demonstrated pat- because it should give them an idea of earn higher wages; over 275,000 young tern of success. The IG said in testi- how this particular Congress has ex- people will be denied the employment mony in 1993 that we continue to find isted for all these years. The argument training they so desperately need; and phantom JTPA participants, bribery, about children, and the argument over 600,000 youth will be denied sum- and overbilling by consultants and con- about Head Start was not the last time mer jobs they need. It is important for tractors, abuses by brokers and other we found out that people were not sin- us to realize that the unemployment middlemen, and just plain stealing of cere. We also had an amendment to rate for teens is three times that of the JTPA funds by those who administer as transfer $135 million from the oldest general population. And, for African- well as participate in the program. In American project of some sort, $135 American teens, the rate is more than other words, there have been problems million from that to Head Start. That six times higher than that of the gen- in the program. was voted down also. eral population. In fact, the unemploy- Youth job training. Little evidence Mr. Chairman, what we are having ment rate is approximately 40 percent. that the program is successfully train- here is a commitment to lawyers. Not Employment training works. Mr. ing people for the future job market. everyone will understand it, if they are Chairman, the real wages of American The Department’s own evaluation not businesspeople. Those who are workers are declining and there is shows this program has been found to business people will understand it. growing disparity between the rich and be unsuccessful in raising youth em- Lawyers are not deal makers, they are poor. Base closings and corporate ployment or earnings, and that it does deal breakers. I say we vote for this downsizing are devastating American not appear that JTPA youth training and support the amendment and the families. According to the Department has had significant positive impacts. economy. of Labor, 2.5 million workers will be The CHAIRMAN. All time for general permanently laid off in 1995. Employ- The Summer Youth Employment debate on title I has expired. ment training is the key to better jobs Program. The program has not pro- The Chair will now recognize Mem- and higher wages for the American peo- vided permanent skills training or edu- bers for amendments in title I. ple. Skills matter, job training pays cation. It is basically an income sup- plement and the jobs are public sector AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. STOKES off. Skilled high school graduates earn Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I offer approximately 19 percent more than jobs that do not meet critical needs. an amendment, number 70. their nonskilled counterparts. Skilled The Department’s own reviews indicate The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will des- college graduates earn over 40 percent that subsidized work experience ‘‘has ignate the amendment. more than their nonskilled counter- generally not had long-term positive The text of the amendment is as fol- parts. effects on employment in earnings.’’ lows: Now is not the time to gut employ- The Displaced Worker Program. Ef- Amendment offered by Mr. STOKES: on ment training. I ask my colleagues to fectiveness of short-term training has page 2 line 15, strike $3,180,441,000 and insert restore the Nation’s investment in the been questioned by departmental eval- $3,185,441,000, on line 16, strike $2,936,154,000 future of the American people. Over- uations. According to the Department and insert $2,941,154,000, and on line 21 strike turn the $446 million cut in dislocated of Labor, short-term skills training has $95,000,000 and insert $100,000,000. worker re-employment assistance, the not been successful in producing earn- The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the $299 million cut in vocational edu- ing gains for dislocated workers. Fur- unanimous-consent agreement of cation, the $55 million cut in school-to- ther, only a minority of displaced today, the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. work, and the over $300 million cuts in workers are likely to enter long-term STOKES] and a Member opposed will adult and youth employment training. training if the option is offered to each be recognized for 20 minutes. And, my colleagues, overturn the ma- them. The chair recognizes the gentleman jority’s elimination of summer jobs for The School-to-Work Program that is from Ohio [Mr. STOKES]. America’s youth. the subject of the gentleman’s amend- Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I yield Mr. Chairman, H.R. 2127 is bad for ment. Here we have seen a program myself 4 minutes. our children, the elderly, families, and that still, even with the cut, would re- Mr. Chairman, while the bill’s $55 the country. I strongly urge my col- ceive nearly twice what it received in million, or 22-percent cut in school-to- leagues to join me in defeating H.R. fiscal year 1994, and we had to make a work would devastate the viability of 2127. cut here for budgetary reasons, obvi- this initiative, my concerns extend Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance ously. This is a program that will be well beyond this symbolic amendment of my time. under intense pressure to turn the pro- to the broader devastating funding cuts The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman gram into a permanent subsidy rather in career and employment training. from Illinois wish to be recognized in than a demonstration program, which Mr. Chairman, while global competi- opposition to the amendment? it is, and I would simply have to rise tion requires a highly trained Mr. PORTER. Yes, Mr. Chairman. and oppose the gentleman’s amend- workforce, while our technology driven The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman ment for that reason. and increasingly changing labor mar- from Illinois [Mr. PORTER] is recog- ket requires a highly skilled work nized for 20 minutes. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance force, and while the American business Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield of my time. community recognizes the importance myself such time as I may consume. Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I am of training, the majority on the com- Mr. Chairman, the gentleman has pleased to yield 21⁄2 minutes to the gen- mittee have gutted funding for employ- raised the value of job training pro- tleman from Missouri [Mr. CLAY], the ment training. grams generally, and I would agree ranking minority member of the Com- No job training or re-employment that there are some that do some good. mittee on Economic and Educational initiative whether for our youth or There are others that do not at all. Opportunities. August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8229 (Mr. CLAY asked and was given per- period of time that coincides with laid off who were building tanks for mission to revise and extend his re- being out of school. this country, nowhere to turn. The marks.) What we find is we find ourselves transition center in Sterling Heights competing with the Federal Govern- has helped these people get back on b 1730 ment and we cannot cut it. We cannot their feet. And you come here today Mr. CLAY. Mr. Chairman, I thank match it, because the Federal Govern- and mock those programs. Shame on the gentleman for yielding the time. ment does not require anything of the you. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the people who they give money to other Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 amendment offered by the gentleman than you be at your home, we will minutes to the gentleman from Louisi- from Ohio [Mr. STOKES]. School-to- come pick you up or come to the office ana [Mr. LIVINGSTON], the chairman of work is an initiative that should com- somewhere around—come into the city the Committee on Appropriations. mand broad-based bipartisan support. hall, or whatever it might be, some- Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I Of all of the provisions in this bill, the where around 9 o’clock, and we are thank my friend for yielding me this proposal to reduce job training for dis- going to have you go out and stand in time. located workers is among the dumbest. some ditch and act like you are doing Mr. Chairman, I just heard the pre- As a result of Republican priorities, something. vious speaker say that the Republican 193,000 workers who lose their jobs Now, what harm is what? What harm position on the bill on the floor is ex- through no fault of their own will not is that? First of all, let us look at it tremism run amuck. After listening to receive retraining in 1996. from the standpoint of our Govern- him, I think his statement is hyperbole This ill-conceived effort is ill-timed. ment. It is wasting money. It is saying run amok. The fact of the matter is Last month, the Base Closure and Re- we want to give you sugar rather than again we hear this Chicken Littleism. alignment Commission recommended protein and calcium. We do not want to ‘‘The sky is falling. Call Henny Penny. closing 132 military bases, disrupting give you any skills. The world is going to come apart at the 100,000 careers. In June, U.S. corpora- When I see someone is on a job pro- seams.’’ tions announced more than 40,000 job gram coming into my business with My goodness; $270.9 billion is appro- cuts. that on the resume, I say aha, we are priated in this bill to help people. A Let us look at some of the school-to- going to have to undo what that person major credit card, perhaps the biggest work success stories. Cassandra Floyd- has learned from being a part of the domestic credit card in the history of Dade, of California, had been a clerk- welfare system and being a part of the the free world, paid for by the courtesy typist at the Norton Air Force Base, cash distribution system that our Gov- of the American taxpayer, to help peo- earning $8.27 per hour. After being laid ernment gives, and then after we work ple in need. off, she entered classroom training to that out, we are going to have to teach Now, he says all the job programs are become a nurse. She completed her them what it is like to really try to going to be eliminated. All the people classwork with flying colors and passed satisfy customers, to really be account- that ever lose their job in the next the licensing exam. She now works at able, and to really have some con- year, move from one job to the other, the Robert Ballard Rehabilitation Hos- sequences from their actions. are going to be without help. pital, earning $12 an hour. That is what we are doing in this par- My goodness, there are currently 163 ticular program. I cannot see in 12- There is Susan Day. She was a nu- separate programs for Federal employ- week programs that we are doing any- clear technician at the Charleston ment training operations, across 15 de- body any good. We cannot find work- Naval Shipyard. Before leaving the partments and agencies, with 40 inter- ers. We find people during the summer shipyard, she took advantage of train- departmental offices. That is according that we find we cannot satisfy the de- ing in business fundamentals. Then she to the GAO. That is what the General mand because workers are off doing and two of her friends opened a com- Accounting Office says. For the youth those sort of things. puter retail outlet in one of the most I just think what we need to do is, if at risk on which we hear the concerns competitive fields in business today. nothing else, for the consideration of of the gentleman from Ohio, there are There is also Jeffrey Bartlett, who the kids, get us off this program, have 266 additional Federal programs across lost his job at the University of Min- the money brought back into the Gov- eight departments and agencies. nesota in August of 1992. He collected ernment, and watch when people smile For JTPA, the training program that unemployment benefits for 4 months and say our tax dollars at least are not the gentleman talked about that some- before finding out about dislocated being wasted on a cash distribution times works and sometimes does not, worker training. The services helped system called the Summer Jobs Pro- we would spend $3.3 billion; $1 billion him with his job search and his com- gram. on the JOB Program; another $1.1 bil- puter skills. In August 1993, Jeff found Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I yield lion on Job Corps. a job at the Metropolitan Sports Com- 11⁄2 minutes to the gentleman from Sooner or later we have to get some mission. He has since moved on to be- Michigan [Mr. LEVIN]. common sense. The fact of the matter come a facilities manager for a com- (Mr. LEVIN asked and was given per- is, the inner-cities are in deplorable puter firm. His salary is now higher mission to revise and extend his re- condition because we have taxed the than it was when he lost his job at the marks.) people who run businesses out of the University. Mr. LEVIN. Mr. Chairman, I have cities and left the poor folks who just Mr. Chairman, training for dislocated been listening to the explanations for do not have the opportunity to gain workers actually works. It gives work- the majority position. Your bill is ex- employment to remain. ers and their families renewed hope. tremism run amuck. It rips whatever Now, it seems to me that common Shame on those who want to cut it. mask is left off of so-called concern sense says that maybe we ought to stop Vote no on this bill. about the people of this country. doing the things the way we have been Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 I want to speak to the millions of doing them over the years. Maybe we minutes to the gentleman from Arkan- Americans who will be permanently ought to be giving tax incentives to sas [Mr. DICKEY], a member of the sub- laid off in the next 2 years. To 46,000 of businesses to return to the cities, and committee. you, the Republican majority says let the real purveyor of wealth, the pri- Mr. DICKEY. Mr. Chairman, I would ‘‘Forget it, no training in employment vate sector, take over and generate the like to make a case here that the Sum- services.’’ To 84,000, the Republican jobs to put poor kids in the inner-cities mer Job Program is obviously just a majority says ‘‘Tough luck, no training to work. cash distribution system that our Gov- grants for you.’’ And what does the Re- The gentleman has no more compas- ernment has set up. It is a 12–week pro- publican majority have for the kids of sion for those out of work than I do. I gram. I see it because I am in the res- America? Your training grants are cut will tell you that I have been working taurant business and we have a surge of 80 percent; your summer jobs are elimi- in summer jobs since I was 14 years old. business during the summer, and we go nated. I believe in summer jobs. I think that out and try to find people to work for I have seen training work in Michi- summer jobs are important for young- us during that period of time, just the gan in the Transition Program, those sters. They train them for skills that H 8230 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 they will need in later life. But the American workers who cannot get help not increasing it 400 percent is what is Government is not the employer of last which they would have gotten pre- sticking in the gentleman’s craw. resort. viously under the displaced worker pro- I have to say that with $3 billion re- The fact of the matter is, the only gram. maining in the JTPA Program, I think useful skills that employees acquire on Now, you talk about all of the dupli- we are making a very, very healthy the job emanate from the private sec- cative programs in labor. The fact is, commitment to America’s workers and tor. If we can encourage every business and you know it, the Secretary of protecting them at the same time we in America to go into the inner-city Labor is already reorganizing those are rationally and reasonably and hire one kid, then we will make a programs. He is consolidating a lot of downsizing spending throughout Gov- remarkably better gain toward reduc- them, and we said, five times now, we ernment. ing unemployment in this country support the elimination of those pro- Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to than the current programs that the grams in this bill. Write it down. We the gentleman from Texas [Mr. gentleman is complaining about that support the elimination of that dupli- BONILLA], our colleague on the Appro- are being trimmed back. cation. What we do not support is cut- priations Subcommittee. We can consolidate. We can trim. We ting job training by one-third so you Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I can scale back. We can save the tax- can provide a $20,000 tax cut for some- would like to begin by saying that one payer money. We can make the pro- body making $300,000 a year. That goes of the most fortunate occurrences that grams more efficient. And in the long too far. I have been fortunate to be part of in run we can put more kids to work, give the last 21⁄2 years is the privilege of b them more training, and give them bet- 1745 having worked with the gentleman ter skills, so that they in turn will be Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I yield from Ohio [Mr. STOKES] on the sub- productive citizens. And when they get 11⁄2 minutes to the gentleman from committee. He is one of the most a little bit older, maybe they will be Texas, Mr. GENE GREEN, a member of thoughtful and most sincere and a man rich enough to go out and hire other the Economic and Educational Oppor- with strong convictions and every day kids and put them to work. tunities Committee. works very hard for the people of his The hue and cry, from the liberals Mr. GENE GREEN of Texas. Mr. district in trying to do the right thing who have shown us their policies that Chairman, I thank the gentleman for for this country. have failed day in and day out for the yielding time to me. I rise, however, today in opposition last 60 years, is just intolerable. It is I am proud to serve on the commit- to this amendment. I would like to hyperbole run amuck. The gentleman’s tee, the authorizing committee, and let make a couple of points in my re- amendment should be discarded. me talk about some of the things that marks. Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I am are being cut. The job training, 17 per- First of all, I would like to point out pleased to yield 2 minutes to the gen- cent less than what was spent last how strong the Republican support has tleman from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY], the year; dislocated workers, 31 percent been for TRIO programs, which will be distinguished ranking member of the less than what was spent last year; the debated in a later portion of this bill, full Committee on Appropriations. school-to-work that our ranking mem- but is a strong, strong job training pro- Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I thank ber talked about, 22 percent. School-to- gram that leads to job training. It the gentleman for yielding me this work is a program designed to be suc- keeps kids in school, and it helps them time. cessful because it takes those young get a degree in higher education and, Mr. Chairman, I would like to re- people who may graduate from high therefore, be a contributing member of spond to my hyperventilating friend school and not have anything to do, society as they enter the workforce. from Louisiana if I could. Let me sim- but it gets them before they get there, We have also supported very strongly ply say that we are resisting the cuts so they can have that skill that they in this bill, to show our commitment in worker training for one very simple will be able to sell. towards job training, the Job Corps reason: Because corporate profits are This bill takes away our future be- program. This bill provides 1.1 billion headed up, and wages are headed down, cause it cuts the job training for the for the Job Corps program. Job Corps and we would like to see the two trav- young people. It cuts the adult training prepares our disadvantaged youth for eling upward together. That is why we for people who are laid off, the dis- the workforce. its strength lies in pro- are doing it. located workers. It cuts the summer viding students with the skills to help There are millions of Americans who jobs for next year. them succeed later in life. are going to be downsized out of their I know on the rescission bill we I have a Job Corps program in La- jobs this year. It would be kind of nice fought long and hard and had summer redo, TX, which is one of the most out- if we provided them the same thing jobs restored for this year. That is standing programs that is run in this every other industrialized society does, great. But if our chairman of the com- country. It has done so for many years. which is some decent job retraining. It mittee, the gentleman from Louisiana The kids that you see come through would also be kind of nice if we did not [Mr. LIVINGSTON], said anything, we that program turn out to be respon- ignore kids who are not going to col- need more than the 1,000 jobs that we sible, well-behaved members of society lege. That is the purpose of the School- may have in Houston. We need 18,000. and go on to lead productive lives in to-Work Program, to take kids who are I hope private business will step up the workforce. Laredo sets an example not going to college, who usually floun- like he said and do it. But that does for the rest of the country. There are der around for 3 or 4 years in our soci- not mean we need to cut out the sum- other programs in other parts of the ety, unlike other societies who provide mer jobs that are across the country country as well that are part of the Job a good number of apprenticeship pro- that are provided by the summer youth Corps program that work very well. grams. We want to take those kids, put program. In Houston we have 6,000 Even though we are expanding Job them in a program tying together their young people who would not be work- Corps, we have also sent a clear mes- high school, their technical school, and ing this summer without that. If we sage to those running Job Corps facili- employers, and give them a track into pass this bill today, they will not have ties across the country. That message a decent job. that job next summer. is and says very strongly that, if you This bill cuts the guts out of most of We need to triple that amount but are mismanaged and will not be effec- these programs. We passed NAFTA last not to cut it from the Federal program. tive, we will change leadership or shut year and we passed GATT, and I did not Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield you down. We are closing two centers, vote for them. But what we told work- myself 1 minute. and we instruct the Department of ers at the time was ‘‘Look, don’t Just to respond to the gentleman Labor to think about closing some of worry; if you are going to lose your from Wisconsin, the School-to-Work the chronic poor performers under the job, you will get some retraining help.’’ Program was $50 million just 2 years Job Corps program. Instead, what you are doing is cut- ago. The figure in the bill is $95 mil- Two weeks ago the latest perform- ting 34 percent out of training pro- lion. That is almost a 100-percent in- ance figures were released by the De- grams. There are going to be 193,000 crease in 2 years. The fact that we are partment of Labor. They showed that 7 August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8231 out of 10 Job Corps people found jobs or ing committee has accepted 20 percent needs to have an opportunity. I cer- went on to further their education. and no more. You are cutting beyond tainly do not know what we are saying This is a good, solid record. Oftentimes us. to those who are advocates of valuable representatives from training programs Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I re- social policy who are to now be gagged have come before our committee that serve the balance of my time. by this particular legislation so that were part of the 163 job training pro- Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I yield they cannot speak out on issues deal- grams that we have. Often they cannot 11⁄2 minutes to the gentleman from New ing with those least able to access gov- cite success stories like the Job Corps York [Mr. RANGEL]. ernment. training program can. The report also (Mr. RANGEL asked and was given Mr. Chairman, I would say that I rise shows that students placed in jobs are permission to revise and extend his re- to support the Stokes amendment be- earning good wages, with nearly half marks.) cause I do believe that the school-to- working on jobs related to the training Mr. RANGEL. Mr. Chairman, let me work program is a valuable tool in pro- they received while enrolled in the pro- thank the Republicans for their candor viding students real career options. I gram; again, a good way to measure in how they intend to resolve some of do believe that the Bill of Rights the success of Job Corps. the problems. works, the Constitution works, and I Job Corps is the only program of its I wish the chairman of the Commit- do believe that we should support the kind serving at-risk youth. The alter- tee on Appropriations was on this floor Stokes amendment because we are natives, welfare, unemployment, or in- because now I fully understand, having doing nothing under this present legis- carceration, are more costly and lack been born and raised and living in the lation but eliminating the rights of any short- or long-term benefits. Job inner city, that our problems were and Americans and taking away training Corps is an investment which contin- have been today the fact that we taxed and retraining opportunities for Ameri- ues to yield returns for businesses, the rich too much. And if we relieve cans. communities, and the youth who go on the rich of this burden of tax, they will Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, would to better their lives. come back to the inner cities where the Chair advise how much time re- I am sure if Job Corps graduates like they fled. mains on each side? heavyweight champion George Fore- What we are trying to do is to do for The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman man were here today, they would those who are held hostage in the inner from Ohio [Mr. STOKES] has 41⁄2 minutes thank this Congress for its leadership city the same thing that we do for remaining, and the gentleman from in funding the Job Corps program. Americans no matter where they are Texas [Mr. BONILLA] has 6 minutes re- Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I yield born: to give them hope, to give them maining. 13⁄4 minutes to the gentleman from vision, to give them job training, to Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I re- Montana [Mr. WILLIAMS]. give them opportunity, to allow them serve the balance of my time. Mr. WILLIAMS. Mr. Chairman, this to look forward to raising a family; and Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield bill is not about change; it is about re- to be able to live the American dream. 1 minute to the gentleman from Penn- treat. Anybody listening would be con- You keep talking about how much sylvania [Mr. GOODLING]. fused about whether we are spending money you are giving. Where do we get Mr. GOODLING. Mr. Chairman, the more or less. this idea of reducing the rate of in- tragedy with the amendment is the Here are letters from America’s may- crease? What we are saying is that if fact that, and I suppose that is why it ors, Republicans and Democrats that the poor are getting poorer and coming was presented, it gives 40 minutes of say, do not do it. Do not do this to job up in larger numbers, you do not cut talk time. It gives no money to do all training. Do not do this to summer back the resources that are necessary the things that Members are talking youth. Why? Because they know we are to give them the strength to get back about doing in job training, et cetera. spending less. We are sending them on their feet to become Americans. When you look at the authority in less, Republicans and Democratic may- What have you cut? Have you cut out relationship to the amount of money ors alike. communism, socialism, or any of the available, you cannot do any of those If we are to remain competitive in things that Americans want get rid of? things. So basically, the amendment the world marketplace, we need to No; you are honest enough to cut those gives 40 minutes of talk, zero of dollars make sure that our workers, yes, in- things and stand up to the American in relationship to doing the kind of cluding the new workers that will come people, summer jobs for our kids, things Members are talking about. I on into the workplace market, have school-to-work programs, one-stop em- just want to make sure that everybody the skills necessary to move ahead. ployment centers—that is not welfare, understands that. This is a terrible bill. my brothers and sisters—and drug Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 For my State of Montana it would be treatment to have people be able to minute to the gentleman from Mary- devastating. We would reduce adult stand on their feet. land [Mr. WYNN]. training funding in my State in this It is a shame what you are doing in Mr. WYNN. Mr. Chairman, I thank bill, reduce it by more than $1,500,000. order to make the rich even more rich. the gentleman for yielding time to me. The bill will reduce youth training Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I yield Mr. Chairman, I just do not under- funds to go to my State by close to $4 45 seconds to the gentlewoman from stand the reasoning of the Republicans. million. It eliminates every single dol- Texas [Ms. JACKSON-LEE]. They say they want to fight welfare lar of summer youth program for the Ms. JACKSON-LEE. Mr. Chairman, I and put people to work. But they cut State of Montana and for every other thank the gentleman from Ohio for his job training programs. They say they State in this country. leadership. As I shred this sheet of want to fight crime, they want to The chairman on the Republican side paper this symbolizes the rights of straighten out our young people, but might say that is not a cut, to go from Americans under this legislation. then they cut summer jobs programs what we spend today to zero next sum- Under this bill, American workers sim- and school-to-work programs. I just do mer. The chairman would be wrong. ply have no rights. Passing this legisla- not understand. Finally, let me tell Members this: I tion results in a loss of money for Job They are cutting the vocational edu- serve along with the good chairman, Corps, and a loss of money for summer cation program by $300 million or 27 the gentleman from California [Mr. jobs. This legislation disregards the percent. People ask me at town meet- MCKEON], a Republican chairman, of need of job training for dislocated ings, why do we not have apprentice- the committee that has redesigned the workers. And simply, we are not listen- ship programs like they have in Ger- Job Training Partnership Act. In a bi- ing to our constituents, for we are not many to give our kids technical skills? partisan way we agreed to a 20-percent listening to the school districts in They say, Congressman, our jobs are cut in job training funds. That is not Houston, the colleges in Houston that going overseas. What are we doing to what this bill does. This bill cuts funds say school-to-work programs do work. improve the skill level of our young for youth 54 percent and for everyone With a 22-percent cut, I do not know people? Sad to say, I will have to tell else in this country 27 percent. On a bi- what we are saying to the American them, the Republicans want to cut vo- partisan basis, the education authoriz- worker and to the young student who cational training by 27 percent. H 8232 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 We talk about our young people. We Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I re- ment would provide the opportunity say we ought to get our young people serve the balance of my time. for us to do that. on the proper career tracks. But they Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I would The CHAIRMAN. All time has ex- cut the school-to-work program by 22 ask the Chair, do I have the right to pired. percent. I do not understand. close under my amendment? Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I ask This puts seniors into a job environ- The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman unanimous consent to withdraw the ment that actually creates jobs. Then from Texas [Mr. BONILLA], who advo- amendment. they talk about fighting crime, but cates the committee position, would The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection they are cutting summer jobs. They have the right to close, and the gen- to the request of the gentleman from are cutting almost 600,000 possible sum- tleman from Texas is presently reserv- Ohio? mer jobs, 7,000 jobs in my State of ing the balance of his time. There was no objection. Maryland. Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, may I The CHAIRMAN. Are there other Mr. Chairman, I just do not under- inquire as to whether the gentleman amendments to title I? stand their reasoning. from Texas has other speakers? AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. OBEY Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, we Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I offer an b 1800 have no additional speakers at this amendment. Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield time, and no objection if the gentleman the Chairman. The Clerk will des- 1 minute to the gentleman from Arkan- from Ohio [Mr. STOKES] would like to ignate the amendment. sas [Mr. DICKEY], a member of the com- close. The text of the amendment is as fol- mittee. Mr. STOKES. I accept the gentle- lows: Mr. DICKEY. Mr. Chairman, I would man’s offer that I be able to close. Amendment offered by Mr. OBEY: On page like to respond to three different accu- Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield 18, strike lines 17 through 24. sations that have been made. The mid- back the balance of my time. On page 19 strike out all beginning on line dle class understands what the mem- The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman 1 through line 14 on page 20. bers are saying about who the rich are. from Ohio [Mr. STOKES] is recognized On page 20 strike out lines 15 through 22. It is anyone who works and pays taxes. for 2 minutes and 45 seconds. On page 20 strike out all beginning on line It is the middle class that we are try- Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I appre- 23 through line 12 on page 21. On page 21 strike out lines 13 through 23. ing to help. If we are helping the mid- ciate the gesture on the part of the On page 41 strike lines 6 through 8. dle class and we are helping other peo- gentleman from Texas [Mr. BONILLA]. On page 51 strike out all beginning after ple, they want to be helped, and the Let me say that it has been a pleasure ‘‘1996’’ on line 12 through line 18 on page 52. heck with whether or not other people to serve with him on this subcommit- On page 54 strike lines 6 through 18. are being helped also, so they are not tee, and there are many matters upon On page 58 strike all beginning after the being fooled. which he and I agree and upon which word ‘‘purposes’’ on line 20 through page 60 Better training comes for our young we have worked jointly. line 8. On page 69 strike lines 12 through 17. people in businesses, where they need In closing, Mr. Chairman, let me just On page 70 strike all beginning on line 17 to be accountable in their con- respond to remarks made by the chair- through line 8 on page 71. sequences. We do not need to start our man of our subcommittee, the gen- On page 71 strike all beginning on line 7 kids on a welfare program by teaching tleman from Illinois [Mr. PORTER], through line 15 on page 72. them they are doing something when where he made reference to consolida- Strike title VI of the bill beginning on they are not. Abstract training is not tion and elimination of small pro- page 76 line 1 through line 7 on page 88. any good. We know that. grams. We agree to that. We also have The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the One hundred sixty-one million dol- agreed to the elimination and consoli- unanimous-consent agreement of today lars was attempted to be restored in dation of these programs, but we also the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. the subcommittee for Head Start. We support funding of the training pro- OBEY] will be recognized for 20 minutes need to stop talking about this particu- grams, because they work. in support of his amendment, and the lar provision, because not one vote on I want to just cite from the adult gentleman from Texas [Mr. BONILLA] those restorations came from the lib- training program valuation: ‘‘It is the will be recognized for 20 minutes in op- erals on that subcommittee, not one only federally funded job training pro- position to the amendment. vote. They voted to keep programs gram that has undergone a major con- The Chair recognizes the gentleman that they think of as higher priority trolled evaluation. The national JTPA from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY]. than Head Start, so we ought to stop impact evaluation showed that partici- Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- the talk. pants earned 10 to 15 percent more than self such time as I may consume. Mr. STOKES. Mr. Chairman, I yield those who do not go through some form Mr. Chairman, I have often had con- 45 seconds to the gentlewoman from of education or training.’’ stituents ask me the following ques- California [Ms. WOOLSEY]. Mr. Chairman, those of us who have tion: Why does Congress always seem Ms. WOOLSEY. Mr. Chairman, I ask seen unemployment in our cities, those to have so many riders attached to my colleagues, do they not know that of us who see in some cities black bills that have nothing whatsoever to before Congress passed the school-to- youth unemployed in excess of 50 per- do with what those bills are supposed work program last Congress, America cent, those of us who walk the streets to accomplish? If this bill passes, they was the only industrialized country in our districts and have people yell at are going to be asking a lot more of that did not have a national program us ‘‘Hey, Stokes, how about a job,’’ this those questions, because this baby sets to prepare young people to go directly is a meaningful way of us trying to a new record in terms of illegitimate from school into a job? That is why provide an opportunity. We have told legislation on what is supposed to be a last Congress we crafted a bipartisan people over and over again that ‘‘All budget bill. There are 29 pages of legis- plan to give students who are not going you have to do is work hard in this so- lative riders stuffed into this bill, to college the knowledge and skills ciety, work hard on the job, and you which is supposed to be a budget bill to they need to move directly from high can become a success in life. You can fund education and health care and so- school to high-skills, high-wage ca- have a part of the American dream.’’ cial service and labor programs, 29 reers. This is what we are asking for here pages. The school-to-work program gives all today: Give these young people and I want to tell the Members, there is young people the chance to support give these adults in our society a part a clear pattern emerging in this House. themselves and their families, and to of the American dream. We saw it on the bill earlier this week, be able to participate in the American When we talk about the middle class, the HUD bill, on the environment, and dream. The school-to-work program is we are not talking about a lot of Amer- we are seeing it all across the board on a sound investment in the future of our icans who will never be able to get into this bill. There are 17 different items youth and of our country. I urge my the working class without a chance to that should not be here that were colleagues to support the Stokes just work a job. We owe every Amer- stuffed in because either Members have amendment. ican that opportunity. This amend- individual gripes with programs or August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8233 agencies, or else because the authoriz- freedom of speech or the press, or the in America shaking in its boots, be- ing committee chairmen do not appar- right of the people peaceably to assem- cause it is another tool, a potential ently have the courage to bring these ble and to petition the Government for tool that OSHA is going to use to im- bills before us out of their own com- a redress of grievances.’’ Yet, we have pose unfair fines and unfair burdens mittees, so that we can debate those the Istook amendment, which says and unfair paperwork on small business policy issues and have amendments of- that if you happen to get any kind of a across this country. Ergonomics is a fered to them the way we can in the Federal grant, even if you are using fancy term for designing jobs and tools authorizing process, and we cannot do your own money, you have to zip your to fit the physical and physiological that in the appropriations process. lip. You can no longer lobby the Gov- limits of people. Therefore, I think we are having a ernment on matters of public policy. In the private sector, there have been clear pattern. Does it say that for defense contrac- many efforts so far to improve produc- Whether the issues affect women, tors? Oh, no. Lockheed can continue to tivity, to try to help the working envi- whether they affect workers, whether run full-page ads supporting this multi- ronment so people are at work more they affect health, safety, or bargain- billion dollar or that multi-billion dol- often, have fewer absences, fewer inju- ing rights, they are rolling back basic lar program. Do we try to stifle them? ries, and fewer illnesses. This is a great law in a bill which is not supposed to No. It is only the nonprofit organiza- tribute to the commitment that the write new law but only supposed to tions, who are trying to in many cases private sector and small business has provide funding for budget items. I help people in this society who are at to helping their employees. There is a want to give the Members one example. the lowest rung of the ladder. myth that exists on the other side of Virtually every time I am in my dis- Mr. Chairman, there are some people the aisle that somehow employers are trict going through some plant or some on the Republican side of the aisle who not interested in keeping workers on business I run into somebody in an of- are offended by that. We already have the job, keeping them safe, keeping fice, usually a woman at a typewriter, laws on the books about illegal lobby- them productive, and somehow that we with a device on her wrist. I say, ing. That is clear. What they are trying are simply concerned about removing ‘‘What is the problem?’’ She says, ‘‘I to do in addition to that is to stifle any worker safety that exists in this have carpal tunnel syndrome.’’ freedom of expression and the right to country. OSHA is in the process of trying to redress one’s own Government with OSHA was born many years ago as a develop a standard to protect workers one’s own money. That is going too far. good idea that now, like many cases, is from a malady which costs $20 billion a A lot of Republicans on this side of the a government program that is out of year, motion injuries, $20 billion a aisle know that, as well as a lot of control. The pendulum has now swung year. Yet, they are not going to be al- Democrats. too far in the wrong direction. We have lowed, under a legislative rider at- This bill has traditionally been a bi- OSHA now that is a four-letter word in tached to this bill, they are not even partisan bill. I appeal to my Repub- the offices of many small businesses in going to be allowed to collect data on lican friends on this side of the aisle, this country. those injuries. They are not even going do not abandon that bipartisan tradi- Ergonomics is an overly ambitious, to be allowed to prepare a possible tion on this bill. They know this goes burdensome, and possibly the most ex- standard, because the whiz kids on that too far on a number of items, including pensive and far-reaching and intrusive side of the aisle have said, ‘‘No way. We these legislation items that have been regulation ever written by the Federal know better than the agency charged attached and rammed through this bill, Government. We are not opposed, long- with the responsibility for enforcing many times over the objection of the term, to implementing ergonomics the law.’’ chairman himself. rules in the workplace. We just say at We have another provision which Mr. Chairman, I would urge the Mem- this time that we cannot let OSHA says that the President cannot weigh bers, return this bill to the middle move forward with an aggressive agen- in and try to help workers who will see ground. Get rid of this stuff. If Mem- da, a burdensome agenda, with no sci- their jobs replaced when they go on bers want to bring these legislative entific background, with no research to strike by permanent strikers. I will tell items up, have guts enough to do it base their efforts on. We must give a little story. Last year I was in my through the right process. Have the OSHA and those responsible for worker district. A company that I helped get right chairman from the right commit- safety time to develop a thoughtful, an industrial park for, so they could tee who has jurisdiction bring it up and scientific basis for implementing any develop their company in a new loca- debate it here, full-blown, so we can kind of rules related to ergonomics. We tion in my district, that company de- amend these crazy items, and possibly are simply asking in this bill, which is cided they wanted their workers to get them in a position where we can part of this bill now we want to protect have to work Sundays. have both parties support them. If they and therefore must work to defeat the The workers had been willing in most are not willing to do that, I ask them Obey amendment, to preserve the cases to work Sundays, but they want- to take out the junk. We also got it re- ergonomics aspect of this bill. ed to maintain the option, because moved in the HUD bill last week. We b some of them wanted a little room for lost by one vote. Let us hope we have 1815 family and a little room for church on a better result this time around. Mr. Chairman, I would also like to Sundays. Therefore, they went on Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance address something in this bill that the strike when they could not get the of my time. amendment of the gentleman from company to leave working Sundays on Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY] is trying to strip, a voluntary basis. Three days after myself 5 minutes. and that is the amendment I put in to they went on strike, that company Mr. Chairman, we are opposed to this prohibit funding of the office of the started advertising to hire permanent amendment presented by the gen- Surgeon General. I thought I was doing replacement workers. tleman from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY]. It the current president and future Presi- Shame on people like that, shame on strips out a lot of hard work and a lot dents a great service by eliminating that company. Yet, what you do is ram of issues that we attached to this bill funding for the Surgeon General. a provision in this bill which says that that are going to do a lot to help the How much time has the executive the President cannot take any action American people. I am proud of the branch spent on this issue? How much whatsoever to help on that front. guts that members of this committee time has the Senate spent on this Then there is the Istook amendment. on our side showed in trying to ad- issue, which has served to do nothing This is the Constitution of the United vance some of these issues. I will point more than embarrass the White House States, article 1. Unless Members have out two, because there are other Mem- in the last several months in trying to read it, if they have not read it lately, bers who have other issues to discuss fill this job? The Surgeon General let me read what it says: ‘‘Congress as well. serves no role in terms of policy- shall make no law respecting an estab- The first I would like to discuss in- making. It is simply a public relations lishment of religion or prohibiting the volves ergonomics. Ergonomics is one job that the President has at his dis- free exercise thereof, or abridging the of these words that has small business posal. H 8234 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 You have a person walking around It flies in the face, as the gentleman If I remember correctly, in the last the country dressed in one of these uni- who opened this debate indicated, of Congress the gentleman from Wiscon- forms, and it looks like they work on the first amendment, whether we are sin and the gentleman from Ohio, the the Love Boat creating controversy all talking about university researchers, chairman of the committee and the around America. So we do not need churches getting funds for day care subcommittee. The Labor Department this anymore. We want to save the ex- centers, companies receiving help for then promised to issue a notice of pro- ecutive branch and the Senate a lot of displaced workers, gun clubs being al- posed rulemaking by May. We have grief and agony in the future by not al- lowed to do target practice on a Fed- heard nothing yet. lowing this to happen. eral reservation, on and on and on, Mr. Chairman, you will hear that Mr. Chairman, I want to emphasize being swept into this incredible pro- this provision will undermine child that we think advocating good health posal. safety, but that is a far cry from the care policy is important, and this could Perhaps worst of all, this amendment truth. The Labor Department admits it be done by an assistant secretary out would establish a big government, big only has 11 documented cases involving of Health and Human Services, or is a brother system of political controls. It baler-related accidents, but in 6 of role that could be filled by the head of would bring about the creation of a na- these there was operation of the baler, the Centers for Disease Control in At- tional database of political activity, and under the provision in the bill, op- lanta, or the private sector could pro- and if you can believe this, a master eration of the baler would still be ille- vide leadership in this role via the computer file in Washington, DC, cov- gal. American Medical Association, or ering everything from communications One case the Labor Department lists many other groups that do a lot of to contributions made by covered happened next to a baler when a piece work to advance good health care pol- groups and their employees, managed of metal happened to fall that was icy in this country. Therefore, elimi- by the Government of the United leaning against it. In another docu- nating the office of the Surgeon Gen- States. mented case an individual had a paper eral is not in any way to say that we Mr. Chairman, a shame, an absolute cut when they picked up the box. are not interested in advocating good shame. How any of us who took an oath Mr. Chairman, this amendment health care policy. to uphold the Constitution could stand should be defeated. Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield Mr. Chairman, please vote against still for this kind of nonsense on the 4 minutes to the gentleman from Geor- the Obey amendment, because it strips floor of the United States House of gia [Mr. NORWOOD]. these two elements which are among a Representatives in a free land, espe- list of good reforms that the majority Mr. NORWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I cially those who’ve spoken over and thank the gentleman for yielding time is trying to implement in this bill. over again about wanting to restrain Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance to me. the reach of the Federal Government, of my time. Mr. Chairman, I rise to strongly, Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 is absolutely incredible. strongly oppose this amendment on Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield minutes to the gentleman from Colo- many grounds, but for the point of this 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas rado [Mr. SKAGGS]. debate, let us just talk about his lan- Mr. SKAGGS. Mr. Chairman, one of [Mr. COMBEST], the distinguished guage that strikes the provision to the many, many virtues of the amend- Chairman of the Permanent Select control OSHA and ergonomics. Now, ment offered by the gentleman from Committee on Intelligence. what is ergonomics? Ergonomics is Wisconsin is that it would strike from Mr. COMBEST. Mr. Chairman, I simply repetitive motion. It might this bill the incredibly ill-conceived thank my most able friend from Texas occur from playing tennis, it might provision generally referred to as the for yielding time to me. occur from skiing, it might occur from Istook amendment, which attempts to Mr. Chairman, I rise today in strong fly fishing, perhaps it even can occur control speech and political advocacy opposition to the amendment offered from using a computer too long. in this country. It is often described as by the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. If we have ergonomics, what really if the only objective were to keep Fed- OBEY]. In particular, I am concerned does it do? Well, they call it repetitive eral funds from being used for Federal because it would strike a provision in strain injury. I think we can all agree lobbying. That is already essentially this bill that denies funding for the De- that there is such a thing. All of us against the law. partment of Labor to enforce the Haz- over 50 know that there is repetitive This proposal would go far further ardous Occupational Order H.O. 12, strain injury. But how pervasive is it? than that innocent-sounding purpose which prohibits teenagers from merely Well, do not bother to find out. There and fundamentally put the Federal loading a baler. is no correct answer. Government in the business of crip- I have been involved in this issue Mr. Chairman, OSHA estimates that pling the ability of anyone who is cov- ever since these outdated restrictions such injuries account for 60 percent of ered by this amendment to participate were brought to my attention by gro- all workplace illnesses. The Bureau of in the political life of this country. cers in my district who were fined by Labor Statistics says that that figure Mr. Chairman, if it were to become the Labor Department for violating is 7 percent. The National Safety Coun- law, large numbers, probably millions H.O. 12. A fine of up to $10,000 can be is- cil thinks, well, maybe it is 4 percent. of Americans, would end up having to sued every time a cardboard box is sim- Well, that is the problem, the reason file, or participate in the filing, if you ply tossed into a silent, nonoperating repetitive strain injury is the work- can conceive of this of a certified an- baler by teenage employees under 18. place’s most complicated and con- nual report detailing their political ac- Unfortunately, efforts to change this troversial problem. tivity. Incredible. regulation through the Labor Depart- Now, beyond the fact that we know The proponents of this amendment ment fell on deaf ears and that is why that there is such a thing, there is lit- often trot out a picture of a pig eating we are here today arguing against this tle agreement on this subject. One Federal dollars. I guess that pig is sup- amendment. problem is that no one can determine posed to represent farmers and small Mr. Chairman, in typical bureau- the scope of the phenomena. Remem- business people, the Girl Scouts, the cratic form, it took 7 months for the ber, these divergent statistics are of- Red Cross, the YMCA, the U.S. Catho- Labor Department to respond to a let- fered by OSHA and the National Safety lic Conference, some of over 400 organi- ter signed by over 70 Members on both Council, but another involves the ques- zations that are opposing this provi- sides of the aisle that requested a revi- tion of cause and effect, a science that sion. The proponents say their purpose sion of H.O. 12. The Labor Department is very muddled at best when it in- is to keep these people and organiza- did not even have substantial evidence volves RSI, repetitive strain injury. tions from spending more than a mini- to support the prohibition of teenagers For instance, two secretaries work mal amount of money to affect Federal to load nonoperating balers. In addi- the same hours every day. One develops policy, but the real guts of this is to tion, in the last Congress, language stiffness in her fingers and the other keep Americans from spending their was included in this very bill that in- does not. An assembly line worker suf- own money, their own money, on polit- structed the Labor Department to do a fers from crippling backaches. His col- ical advocacy. review of H.O. 12. league who works right beside him and August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8235 does the same thing whistles all wrong for students and administrators ing that specific vote, so that we could, through the day. because around this country, a vast if it fails, proceed to the Pelosi amend- Now, did the employer’s work cause majority of them have said that they ment; unless, of course, the committee the pain, or something else? What prefer the direct lending system. Per- wants to accept the amendment, in should an employer reasonably be ex- haps most importantly, Mr. Chairman, which case we do not have any need to pected to do about this? The way OSHA it is wrong as a matter of process. It is go to the Pelosi amendment. looked at the issue, every job would be- wrong because it is based upon a CBO Mr. Chairman, in fairness to both come a disorder waiting to happen. In report which cooked the numbers. sides, I think it would not make sense its zeal to protect workers’ health, the Mr. Chairman, anyone who follows to vote on the Pelosi amendment, or agency drafted a report identifying this issue and is familiar with it knows spend the time debating it, if mine risk factors on the job from heavy lift- that the conclusion that somehow or passed. I am not asking for a deter- ing to working in cramped spaces. The another the direct loans cost more mination now, but I would urge the 4-inch thick, 600-page document offers than guaranteed loans was a conclu- Chair to consider that problem. guidance to companies in reducing sion CBO was told to reach for reasons The CHAIRMAN. The Chair will take those risks. OSAH’s regulations would of political convenience, and it is also the gentleman’s point under advise- have affected everyone who moves or wrong, Mr. Chairman, because this de- ment. works on the job. bate and this issue is being tucked Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield Mr. Chairman, medical science can- away in this appropriations bill. 31⁄2 minutes to the distinguished gen- not yet determine the cause. It affects Mr. Chairman, the special interests tleman from Texas [Mr. DELAY], the everyone, and medical science cannot of the student loan industry know that Republican whip. pinpoint the cause. This will not they cannot win a fair fight on this Mr. DELAY. Mr. Chairman, I hope change the basic fact that there are issue, because they do not have the Members are watching this debate and not always clear causes or remedies for facts on their side. So what they have paying very close attention to what RSI. You cannot mandate a fix if the done is to load it up in this bill, tuck the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. fix is not out there. However, we have it away in a corner where a lot of other OBEY] is trying to do. It is a huge an agency today who would mandate a issues will take precedent and it will amendment that affects a lot of issues fix. We have an agency today, and peo- not see the light of day. The Obey that are very important to a lot of ple in that agency, that we cannot amendment is a way to correct that Members. allow to write ergonomic standards. We and bring us into the light so that Mr. Chairman, the gentleman is try- all want health and safety in the work- there can be a fair and balanced debate. ing to remove legislative language that place, but this particular OSHA should For that and many other reasons I deals with striker replacement. In a not be allowed to do such a dangerous would urge my colleagues to do the situation where the President has, in thing to the economy of this country right thing and vote ‘‘yes’’ on the Obey my opinion, stepped way beyond the and the consumers of every one of our amendment. bounds of his authority by writing leg- islation through Executive order, we districts. b Mr. OBEY. I yield 3 minutes to the 1830 are trying to correct that. gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. AN- PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY The gentleman also strikes a provi- DREWS]. Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I have a sion in the bill that I think is very, (Mr. ANDREWS asked and was given parliamentary inquiry. very dangerous, if Members do not permission to revise and extend his re- The CHAIRMAN (Mr. WALKER). The know about it and vote for this amend- marks.) gentleman will state it. ment, and that is the legislative lan- Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, as you guage that prevents the raiding of pen- thank my friend from Wisconsin for know, the Chair is considering rolling sion funds by the Department of Labor, yielding time to me. some votes. The next amendment a position that has gotten a lot of peo- Mr. Chairman, this act is misnamed. scheduled to be discussed, depending ple exercised about a new way of spend- It should be called the Special Interest upon whether or not my amendment ing, designed by the Secretary of Relief Act of 1995. One of the special in- passes, is the Pelosi amendment, Labor, by going in and raiding pension terests that is no doubt dancing with which, in contrast to my amendment, funds. glee over the contents of this act is the is only trying to remove some of the The gentleman from Georgia [Mr. student loan industry, which has si- legislative language with respect to NORWOOD] has already talked about the phoned over $1 billion a year from the some labor problems or worker prob- ergonomic standards, another example taxpayers of the United States of lems. of overzealous regulatory agencies try- America, until 1993 when we adopted Mr. Chairman, my question is this: ing to write regulations on an issue what I think was a good Republican How do we proceed to the Pelosi that the scientific community has no idea called competition. In 1993 we said amendment if we have not actually had consensus on, yet they are trying to we would have two student loan sys- a vote on my amendment; and should write regulations that would have a se- tems compete with each other side-by- we not, therefore, vote on my amend- vere impact on jobs in this country. side. One was the expensive and com- ment before we proceed to the Pelosi The gentleman is also attempting to plicated status quo system run by the amendment? stop summer jobs. In this bill, we have banks, and the other was a new, more The CHAIRMAN. The Chair has the language that prohibits the Labor De- efficient system run through the col- authority to postpone the votes. The partment from stopping individuals lege campuses called direct lending. inconsistency of the amendments does under the age of 18 from using card- Everything that we have seen from not necessarily impact on the Chair’s board balers in grocery stores. Right around the country, Mr. Chairman, decision with regard to postponement. now, they are trying to stop high says, direct lending is winning. Stu- Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, further school kids who work summer jobs in dents like it, universities like it, tax- parliamentary inquiry. grocery stores from operating the card- payers like it, but the special interests Is it the Chair’s intention to roll the board balers in those stores. The gen- who profit from the student loan sys- vote on the Obey amendment now be- tleman strikes that language. tem most certainly do not. fore us? Also, those that understand, particu- So what they have done in this bill is The CHAIRMAN. The Chair is at the larly in light of the recent Surgeon to cut off the competition at its knees. present time considering that matter General, we do not need a Surgeon Language in this bill which would be and leans toward postponement of General in this country. The gen- removed by the Obey amendment says, votes. tleman strikes the language that does direct lending will be effectively killed, Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, since we away with the Office of Surgeon Gen- dead and buried as a result of this. are not at a point where the Chair has eral. We go on and on and on. That is wrong. It is wrong for tax- to make that decision, I would urge Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from payers because direct lending costs less that the Chair make that decision in Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY] even includes than the bank-based system. It is consultation with both sides, not roll- some of the abortion language, so those H 8236 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 Members who consider themselves pro- man, we know the kind of workplace Mr. Chairman, we will never get life had better look very carefully at loss that that takes. spending in this country under control this amendment, because it strikes the We see it in our own offices. There if we do not stop using taxpayers’ language that stops medical experi- are people walking around this Capitol money for advocacy of political posi- mentation on human embryos outside with braces on their hands, on their el- tions. This bill contains the language the womb. I do not think anybody is of- bows and shoulders from that kind of to correct it. fering a single amendment to strike work. Do we not owe it to them? Mr. Chairman, I heard the gentleman that particular language. Mr. Chairman, we also know that em- from Colorado [Mr. SKAGGS], my friend, I understand the point that the gen- ployers and insurance companies recog- say, ‘‘Oh, this is going to create a na- tleman from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY], the nize it. They are trying to develop a tional database.’’ My goodness, I hope distinguished ranking member of the safer workplace. They are redesigning the gentleman realizes that lobbyists Committee on Appropriations, is mak- machine tools and redesigning the as- already have to register. There is al- ing. The point is, he is upset with legis- sets to the people working on the as- ready a database. There is a database lating on an appropriations bill. sembly lines. of grantees. There is nothing new in Mr. Chairman, let me just say that in Somehow the Republicans have just that. taking over the majority in the short lost sight that these are people; these Mr. Chairman, perhaps some people period of time that we have had, we did are families; these are bread winners; want to hide from public view the not have time to legislate through the these are spouses; these are mothers; amount of money that is going to spe- normal process; and we feel that it is these are fathers; these are sons or cial interest groups. The President of very important to do these kinds of daughters who are out there working. the United States, yesterday, decried things to stop an overzealous adminis- Do they not deserve a safe work- the special interests in Washington. tration from accomplishing some real- place? The answer in this legislation is Here we have a bill to take money ly bad things. ‘‘no’’ from the Republican side of the away from them to make them stop Mr. Chairman, I urge my colleagues aisle. taking advantage of the taxpayers and to vote ‘‘no’’ on the Obey amendment. I think we have got to understand it people treat it as though the sky is Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 extends even further in terms of the falling. minutes to the gentleman from Califor- workers, where there is disagreement Mr. Chairman, this bill on so many nia [Mr. MILLER]. in the workplace between employer and fronts addresses the problems with how (Mr. MILLER of California asked and employee. They make it much more Washington operates, the way that tax- was given permission to revise and ex- difficult to go and get those conflicts payers’ money is used to fund giant bu- tend his remarks.) resolved. What does that mean? That reaucracies in the private sector, as Mr. MILLER of California. Mr. Chair- means it costs business more money, it well as the government sector. This man, we should support the Obey costs workers wages and we do not get bill is to put a halt to that. amendment because this legislation is on doing what this country does very Mr. Chairman, the Obey amendment just such an incredibly comprehensive well, and that is produce goods and tries to gut this piece of legislation. It raid on the rights of American work- services, not only for this country, but needs to be defeated and the bill as a ers. for the international economy. whole needs to be passed. Whether those American workers Mr. Chairman, why is this necessary? Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 30 seek to have a bargaining position with Because they will not deal with this seconds to the gentleman from Mary- their employer over their working through the authorization process as land [Mr. HOYER]. hours, terms, wages and conditions, opposed to the appropriations process. Mr. HOYER. Mr. Chairman, I rise in where that right is taken away because Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield support of the Obey amendment and I of the attempt here to overturn the 2 minutes to the distinguished gen- want to make an observation to the President’s Executive order; whether tleman from Oklahoma [Mr. ISTOOK], a gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. those workers seek to work in a safe member of the Committee on Appro- ISTOOK], my friend with whom I serve workplace, where we see as serious a priations. on two of the subcommittees. The fact problem as the ergonomic standards Mr. ISTOOK. Mr. Chairman, I find it of the matter is, we have not had a bill being set aside in this bill; going even interesting that some people object since I have been a member of the further, not letting OSHA collect the now, saying that we should not do Committee, January of 1983, in which data. Apparently, the Republicans on other things on appropriations bills. I this kind of language was protected. this side do not know this when they looked at last year’s version of this Not one in that 14 years. It was not see it. very same piece of legislation when the protected last year or the year before Let me tell my colleagues, we see it other party was in power and there that or the year before that or the year every time we get on an airplane. We were in excess of 30 examples of what before that. see a flight attendant with their hands we call authorizing language on the ap- Mr. Chairman, what has happened in the braces; people that cannot do propriations bill. not just in this bill, but in numerous the job on the airplane, because their Mr. Chairman, this is nothing new or bills, the authorizing committees have hands are in braces. unique; it is something that is com- been ignored and we are trying to jam We see it on the assembly line and we mon. But what is not common in this through legislative language on appro- also see it when almost 3 million place, Mr. Chairman, is the type of out- priations bills. claims are paid for the injuries that are cry that we have heard from the spe- Mr. Chairman, we ought to reject it. suffered for this. cial interests, because they realize Pass the Obey amendment. Mr. Chairman, the question is, do we they are threatened by this piece of Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield stick our heads in the sand, as the Re- legislation. 2 minutes to the gentleman from Mis- publican amendment would have us do, This piece of legislation defunds spe- souri [Mr. TALENT]. or do we go out and try to meet this cial interests. This bill is to stop the Mr. TALENT. Mr. Chairman, I think problem? This is about whether or not system of patronage, that has gone on this amendment highlights the philo- our workers get to continue to be able through so much of the government bu- sophical differences between the par- to work without disability or whether reaucracy, that hands money out to al- ties. We believe in Americans and what they are sent home from the workplace lies of the governing party and uses they have built on their own. We think and they are put on disability and they them to come back and lobby the tax- workers and employers, subject to rea- see that their ability to support their payers. sonable rules and regulations, are pret- families is dramatically reduced. We have steps, not only by reducing ty capable of creating jobs and eco- This is about our families. This is the level of spending in this bill, but we nomic growth and not helpless and un- about Americans. This is about people have what we call the grants reform able to protect their own safety. who go to work every day and do not language, the stopping of welfare for The other side believes that we are want to be hurt, yet 2.7 million of them lobbyists that goes to the heart of the going to have massive problems, unless file claims and were paid. Mr. Chair- problem. these people are minutely watched by August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8237 an agency whose record is largely un- The ergonomics standards, I do not, fail. But at least you will give every- blemished by success, and I refer to the frankly, know what the standards body in the process a square deal. Occupational Safety and Health Ad- ought to be, but I do not believe that Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I yield ministration. the agency ought to be precluded from the remainder of my time, 2 minutes, Mr. Chairman, I want to talk specifi- even developing data on the injuries as- to the gentleman from Indiana [Mr. cally about the fall protection stand- sociated with this problem, and that is MCINTOSH], a great champion of free ard, which is in this bill and on which what this language does. enterprise and small business. there were hearings in my subcommit- Let me simply state, in response to Mr. MCINTOSH. Mr. Chairman, I rise tee. the gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. in opposition to the amendment. I b 1845 ISTOOK], about other labor-health bills think the American people have sent us here to get our work done. They are The fall protection standard OSHA providing legislative language. The dif- ference is that every single one of tired of us saying we cannot do it on recently applied to all work above 6 this bill, we cannot do it on this vehi- feet in height, it was at 16 feet, they those provisions was brought to this floor under an open rule, and if a single cle. We have to go through this hear- applied it to all work above 16 feet, ing. They sent us here last fall to which means it applies to all residen- Member of Congress objected, they could strike it on a point of order. That change the very nature of this city and tial remodeling, all residential roofing, of this Government. and, Mr. Chairman, everybody in this meant the only provisions in the bill were noncontroversial, and they were This bill takes a giant step in the business, management, labor, every- right direction to accomplish that. It body hates it because the workers have not special interest sweet dreams, as these are. says to the agencies we are not going to tie on these harnesses and these lan- to continue giving you money to spend Let me simply say that when you yards and move anchors. It is tremen- on regulations that do not make sense. take, as you have done, 17 different leg- dously inefficient, and it is unneces- It says to the President, ‘‘We think you islative provisions and jam them into sary, and they resent the Federal Gov- have politicized the Surgeon General’s an appropriations bill, do not try to ernment telling them, experts in this, office, and we are not going to give you what they have to do in order to pro- kid us. You know what you are doing. more money to finance that oper- tect themselves. What you do is you circumvent the ation.’’ It says to the lobbyists here in OSHA says if we get full compliance process. When you put it into an appro- Washington, ‘‘We are going to cut off with this fall protection standard at 6 priation bill, what you do is you cir- your taxpaper funding, no more welfare feet, and every roofing job and every cumvent the normal congressional remodeling job in America, and I guess for lobbyists under this Congress.’’ hearing process and the authorizing The time to act is now, Mr. Chair- they are going to have cars in every committees. You circumvent the proc- man. The American people want these subdivision to watch people, if we get ess which is designed to make certain measures. They sent us here to do this full compliance, it will save 20 lives all of the parties who were impacted by every year. I asked the head of OSHA, work. a decision have an opportunity to com- The committees and the Committee ‘‘How much does this increase the costs ment on it before we, as the publics’ on Appropriations and subcommittees of these jobs?’’ Because the evidence we Representatives, make a final decision have, again pretty much undisputed, have worked hard to fashion this bill and a final choice. What you are doing and to craft these provisions in a way was that it would increase the cost of now when you slip it into an appropria- labor on the jobs about 10 percent, be- that reflects the will and the interests tion bill, you make sure that only cer- of all of the committees here in Con- cause the workers have to move so tain special pleaders get taken care of. much slower. What happens when you gress. This is an effort to stop us from And the other folks who are affected by doing what the American voters sent increase the cost of this work? What do it? ‘‘Sorry buddy, but you are not in- homeowners do? They turn to fly-by- us here to do, to change America, to volved. We got it in before you even cut back on regulations, to end welfare night contractors, to handymen, to knew we were doing it. Your comments people who do not know and under- for lobbyists, to send a signal that it is do not even get heard.’’ That is not the no longer business as usual. stand safety on roof tops, or maybe way to do business when you are deal- they do the jobs themselves. We are going to do what the people ing with people’s lives, when you are sent us here to do and fundamentally What happens if you get a bunch of dealing with people’s rights to have a people working on roof tops who do not change the nature of this Government. safe and healthy workplace, when your I rise in strong opposition to this know what they are doing? dealing with the ability of families to Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- amendment. Support the committee save some money on student loans. self the remainder of my time. bill as it is written, because it does Mr. Chairman, the issue is not That is not the way to do business. move in the direction of changing this whether you like the language on paper This is simply, pure and simple, a spe- Government for the better and for the balers. The issue is not whether you cial interest end run of the normal leg- American people. like the language on erogonomics or islative process. If you truly believe Mr. EWING. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong whether you like the language on any that some of this legislative language opposition to this amendment, which would other OSHA action. The issue is wheth- is correct, and some of it may very well strike section 107 of the bill, which prohibits er or not this language ought to be be, then the way to deal with it is to funding for the enforcement of Hazardous Oc- considered as a slipped-in provision in have the proper committee bring it out cupation Order 12, relating to paper balers. this bill with no chance for hearings, under conditions which allow us to The language in section 107 is based on no chance for examination, or whether amend that language and change it. H.R. 1114, legislation which has 119 biparti- we ought to do it in a more orderly You cannot legislate, supposedly, on an san cosponsors. It would reform a Labor De- way. appropriations bill, so we cannot do partment regulation which has been on the One of the previous speakers said that here. Except you have slipped in books since the 1950's and is very outdated. that I was trying to prevent jobs be- these items so we cannot get at them The regulation prohibits teenagers from work- cause we are taking out the language through the normal point of order ing around paper balers in grocery stores, de- on paper balers. We are not trying to process. You know that these are spe- spite the fact that modern paper balers cannot prevent jobs. We are trying to prevent cial interest proposals. You know, if, cause injury while they are being loaded. The the killing of kids. The fact is that it for instance, you are going to subject a Department has been passing out fines up to is true that some balers meet the new woman to fewer choices because she is $10,000 to small grocery stores for allowing industry standards. But only one in a victim of rape or incest, it would be teenage employees to simply toss an empty five current machines meets all of the nice if she at least had a chance to box into a nonoperating baler, even though requirements, and 15- and 16-year-olds comment on it. They have not, not the they are safe. As a result, many grocers have are sometimes not the most cautious of way you have brought this here. stopped hiring teenagers. people. There have been six deaths be- Strip out all of this language. Bring Our language would simply allow teenagers cause of paper baler machines, deaths it here before us in the correct process. to load paper balers and compactors, but of children. Some of it may pass. Some of it may would not allow them to operate or unload the H 8238 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 machines. Additionally, they could only load ties for young people, as grocery stores will pages and pages of legislative language the modern machines which have the strict once again be encouraged to hire teenagers. in this bill. Legislative language has no safety standards established by the American Sincerely, place in an appropriations bill. HARRY SULLIVAN, This bill addresses complex and con- National Standards Institute. Senior Vice President and General Counsel. This is a jobs issue as well as a safety troversial issues—from abortion to issue. This small change will encourage su- Mr. FAZIO of California. Mr. Chairman, I workers’ rights. The American people permarkets to start hiring teenagers again agree with Mr. OBEY. If he's said it once, he's demand and expect that these issues be without the fear of huge fines. It will also make said it a thousand times: This legislative lan- subject to full Congressional scrutiny— the workplace safer for all grocery store work- guage has no place in an appropriations bill. out in the open—in the committee of The issues that this bill touchesÐfrom abor- ers by providing an incentive for grocers to get jurisdiction. tion to workers' rightsÐare complicated and rid of any old machines which are still in use Yet, the Republican back-door strat- controversial. They should be considered out egy is designed to circumvent this and replace them with the modern, safe ma- in the open in the committee with primary ju- chines. process. risdiction. If the Majority is proud of this legis- This is wrong. Their legislative lan- Congressman LARRY COMBEST and I have lation, its members should have the oppor- been working for well over 2 years to get the guage deserves to stand on its own. tunity to hold public hearings to discuss these These provisions deserves to rise or fall Labor Department to modify this regulation, matters with the public. If this legislationÐand and they have resisted our requests. Last year on their own merits, not on the basis of that's just what it isÐis so important, it should some legislative shenanigans. the Democratic Congress included language in stand on its own, and not hide behind the this appropriations bill directing the Labor De- My Republican colleagues speak cover of an appropriations bill. highly of this bill. They are clearly partment to review H.O. 12. In response, the That said, I rise in support of Mr. OBEY's Department told Congress that it would issue proud of their efforts. amendment to strike the pages and pages of Yet, one could reasonably conclude— a ``Notice of Proposed Rulemaking'' on H.O. legislative language in this bill. based upon the Republican decision to 12 by May of this year. As of today that Notice This inclusion is more than unnecessary insert legislative language in this has still not been issued. That is why we and a waste of our time. It is malicious. It tar- bill—that they seek to avoid a direct strongly support the language contained in this gets the most vulnerable in our communities, confrontation over this language. bill. women who have been assaulted by rapists, Their motivation is clear. Many of The language in the bill is strongly sup- and children who have been victims of incest. these provisions reflect the most radi- ported by the Food Marketing Institute, which In some cases, this bill rescinds years of legal cal and extreme elements of Repub- represents grocery stores in every congres- precedent. In this bill, court decisions in labor lican agenda. sional district. cases are overruled. This language targets the most vul- Mr. Chairman, I include for the RECORD a The demolition does not end here. The sup- nerable members of our society: rape letter from the Food Marketing Institute con- porters are attempting to give political pay victims and the victims of incest. In cerning this amendment. back to their conservative supporters. Let me some cases, this bill rescinds years of I strongly urge my colleagues to support the give you two examples. legal precedent. It over-rules a number committee bill. The language in this bill about gender equity of significant court decisions in the FOOD MARKETING INSTITUTE, in college sports is unfair to our daughters. area of labor relations. Washington, DC, August 3, 1995. Title IX enforcement ensures that our sons Hon. TOM EWING, This is a simple instance of political and daughters have an equal chance to take pay-back. My colleagues are advancing House of Representatives, Washington, DC. part in sports while they are in school. The DEAR CONGRESSMAN EWING: The Food Mar- the interests of narrow, special-inter- keting Institute (FMI) on behalf of the na- language in this bill would halt Title IX en- ests and right-wing conservative sup- tion’s supermarket industry, wishes to ex- forcement. Intercollegiate athletic opportunities porters. press our strong opposition to the amend- for female studentsÐhampered as they al- Here are just two examples: ment that will be offered by Representative ready areÐwould be limited even more. My Language in this bill addressing gen- Nancy Pelosi to the FY 1996 Labor/HHS Ap- daughtersÐeach one a better athlete than her der equity in college sports is out- propriations bill (H.R. 2127). fatherÐhave been denied the access that I rageously unfair. Currently, title IX Among other things, this amendment will had to college sports. Halting enforcement of allow the Department of Labor (DOL) to con- enforcement ensures that our sons and tinue issuing huge fines against grocery Title IX when there is still so much work to do daughters have an equal opportunity to stores for situations when there is clearly no is simply wrong. participate in sports while at school. risk of injury to 16 and 17 year old employ- The other example that I find intolerable as Language in this bill would halt title ees. As you well know, the amendment seeks well as ironic addresses the training of obste- IX enforcement, and intercollegiate to preserve as is, Hazardous Occupation tricians and gynecologists. Supporters of this athletic opportunities for female stu- Order Number 12 (HO 12), a relic of a regula- language will say that it protects those who dents—already limited—would be fur- tion that has remained unchanged since its have moral and religious reservations about ther scaled-back. adoption in 1954. abortion from discrimination. But the Accredi- My own daughtersÐeach one a better ath- Similar to the important principles em- tation Council for Graduate Medical Edu- bodied in H.R. 1114 that you and Congress- lete than their fatherÐhave been denied the man Larry Combest are sponsoring, the lan- cationÐthe independent, organization of medi- same access that I had to college athleticsÐ guage in the FY 1996 Labor/HHS Appropria- cal professionals who set the standards for support, facilities, scholarships, * * * the list tions bill calls for common-sense reform to medical educationÐdoes not mandate abor- is long. Undermining title IXÐwhile so much HO 12. This important language rejects the tion training. Anyone, either an individual or an inequity remainsÐis simply wrong. status quo and embraces safety standards institution, with a legal, moral, or religious ob- Let me present another, more pernicious ex- that have been issued by the American Na- jection to such training is not required to par- ample of legislative meddling: tional Standards Institute (ANSI) for card- ticipate. Language in this bill interferes with the train- board balers and compactors. As provided for I would argue that the language in this bill ing of obstetricians and gynecologists. While in H.R. 1114 and in the FY 1996 Labor/HHS serves a different purpose. It serves to restrict Appropriation bill, employees who are 16 or seeking to protect from discrimination, those 17 years of age would be permitted to place academic freedom. It serves to restrict knowl- with moral and religious reservations about materials into a baler or compactor that edge about a legal medical procedure its sup- abortion, this language actually serves to re- cannot be operated during the loading phase porters find personally unacceptable. In an strict academic and personal freedom. This because the equipment complies with cur- ironic twist, in order to satisfy the personal pri- language ignores the facts. rent ANSI standards. orities of many proponents of small govern- The Accreditation Council for Graduate FMI strongly endorses H.R. 1114 and the ment, they have inserted this language which Medical EducationÐthe independent, organi- common-sense reform relating to HO 12 as represents an unprecedented intrusion into the zation of medical professionals that sets the specified in H.R. 2127. A vote against the actions of a private organization. standards for medical educationÐdoes not striking amendment achieves the following: To repeat, this language has no place in an Fairness to employers because fines will not mandate abortion training. be assessed for situations in which there is appropriations bill. Vote with Mr. OBEY to Anyone, either an individual or an institution, no risk of injury to workers; enhanced safety strike all of these unnecessary and outrageous with a legal, moral, or religious objection to in the workplace as supermarkets upgrade or provisions. such training is not required to participate. purchase new equipment that meets the Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of This language has the intended con- ANSI standards; and finally, job opportuni- Mr. Obey’s amendment to strike the sequence of restricting knowledge about a August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8239 legal medical procedure that some find per- though I had 20, I will take less time, tleman from North Carolina [Mr. sonally unacceptable. obviously. BALLENGER] to control the time in op- In an ironic twist, in order to satisfy the per- My en bloc amendment addresses position. sonal priorities of many proponents of small three shortsighted riders to the Labor- The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection government, they have inserted this language HHS bill regarding worker protection. to the request of the gentleman from which represents an unprecedented intrusion It deletes the ergonomics rider and can Texas? into the actions of a private organization. save American corporations $20 billion There was no objection. In closing, let me repeat what Mr. Obey has a year in workers’ compensation costs. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman stated so forcefully: This language has no It eliminates one of the chief causes of from North Carolina will be recognized place in an appropriations bill. a debilitating work-related disorder. to control the time in opposition to the Vote with Mr. Obey to strike all of these un- My amendment reverses the effects Pelosi en bloc amendments. necessary and outrageous provisions. of this misguided rider which falls Mr. BALLENGER. Mr. Chairman, I The CHAIRMAN. All time has ex- under OSHA. In addition to that, I have yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from pired. two amendments which address the Illinois [Mr. FAWELL], a member of the The question is on the amendment NLRB. committee. offered by the gentleman from Wiscon- As we know, earlier today we dis- Mr. FAWELL. Mr. Chairman, I am sin [Mr. OBEY]. cussed some of the cuts in NLRB, a 30- going to try to, in the 5 minutes I have, The question was taken; and the percent cut. make reference to the National Labor Chairman announced that the ayes ap- The rules prevent me from introduc- Relations Act provisions which are in- peared to have it. ing an amendment which would restore volved in this particular amendment. Mr. BONILLA. Mr. Chairman, I de- these cuts. Instead, I am addressing First of all, in regard to the 10(j) in- mand a recorded vote. some of the legislative language in the junction, I think that is oftentimes The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the bill that addresses the NLRB, two pro- misunderstood, but basically all that order of the House, further proceedings visions in particular, the 10(j) provision this bill is doing is to, in effect, require on the amendment offered by the gen- and salting. uniform standards in regard to the is- tleman from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY] will Section 10(j) of the National Labor suance of a preliminary injunction. No- be postponed. Relations Act gives the NLRB the body, obviously, should be against Are there further amendments to power to go into Federal court against something like that. title I? an employer or a union to get the court We are also setting forth that the AMENDMENTS OFFERED BY MS. PELOSI to issue an order for interim relief. basic equity principles that always Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I offer This is a very preliminary step. Such apply in all other areas of our civil law three amendments en bloc. orders, for example, can require an em- in regard to the issuance of a prelimi- The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will des- ployer or union to stop committing ad- nary injunction would apply here. ignate the amendments en bloc. ditional violations and to reinstate em- Here again, when we talk about a The text of the amendments en bloc ployees fired to chill organizing or preliminary injunction, we are talking are as follows: withdraw illegal bargaining demands. about a very extraordinary remedy, Amendments en bloc offered by Ms. Mr. Chairman, what is important to and you must understand that where PELOSI: Amendment No. 60: Page 20, strike lines 15 note about this is when these 10(j)’s are ordinarily speaking—and any of my through 22 (relating to OSHA ergonomic pro- issued, most of the time the over- lawyer colleagues listening in on this tection standards). whelming percentage of the time, the would agree—that you do not get a pre- Amendment No. 61: Page 58, line 20, strike issue is dealt with expeditiously and in liminary injunction just as a matter of the colon and all that follows through ‘‘Act’’ only a small minority of cases does it course, which is what the NLRB has on page 59, line 8 (relating to NLRB and salt- go to the next step. been doing for the last 2 years. You ing). This legislation in this bill would say have got to show a likelihood of suc- Amendment No. 62: Page 59, line 8, strike the colon and all that follows through ‘‘evi- that in order for the NLRB to go to cess, you have got to show irreparable dence’’ on page 60, line 8 (relating to NLRB Federal court against an employer or damage that would be done if the pre- section 10(j) authority). union, it would require a four-fifths liminary injunction were not granted. The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the vote of the NLRB, 80 percent. You talk You would have to show a balance of order of the House, the gentlewoman about minority rule, 20-percent rules, a hardships between the complainant and from California [Ms. PELOSI] will be veto power of one person on the NLRB, the respondent, and you have to show recognized for 10 minutes, and the gen- so I think that in a sense of fairness, the public interest is something that tleman from Texas [Mr. DELAY] will be our colleagues would recognize that demands it. That is what is being re- recognized for 10 minutes. this is silly legislative language. quested here. The Chair recognizes the gentle- In fact, had this legislation been in In the last few years, we have had a woman from California [Ms. PELOSI]. effect at the time of the baseball great increase in the use of the 10(j) in- strike, on which the NLRB voted 3 to 2, PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY junction, and both the new chairman, Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, par- we would never have been able to pro- Mr. Gould, and the general counsel, Mr. liamentary inquiry. ceed to the resolution of that strike. I Feinstein, have made a number of The CHAIRMAN. The gentlewoman think that the figures there speak for speeches where they have said that will state her parliamentary inquiry. themselves. they are going to increase the use Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. Chairman, I have so much more greatly and, indeed, they have. thought we were 20–20. to say on these issues, but will not, in Since 1947, when the Taft-Hartley law The CHAIRMAN. The amendment of- the interest of time, first authorized this kind of an injunc- fered by the gentlewoman from Califor- Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance tion, it was used on average over the nia is 20 minutes total, 20 minutes on of my time. years no more than 30 or 50 times per each side. PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY year. Ms. PELOSI. That is for all three, Mr. DELAY. Mr. Chairman, I have a b 1900 the en bloc? parliamentary inquiry. The CHAIRMAN. The en bloc amend- The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will Now we are getting it at something ments specified under the unanimous- state his parliamentary inquiry. like 160 over a 16-month period or consent request was for 20 minutes, 10 Mr. DELAY. Mr. Chairman, could I, roughly 10 times for each of the 16 minutes on each side. under the rules, transfer the manage- months, and all of this means that The Chair recognizes the gentle- ment of the opposition to another what we have, as far as the small busi- woman from California [Ms. PELOSI]. Member by unanimous consent? ness person is concerned, a very costly Mr. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I yield The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman, by and a very intimidating result because myself such time as I may consume. unanimous consent, could do that. he is dragged into Federal court to try Mr. Chairman, in light of the fact Mr. DELAY. Mr. Chairman, I ask to defend himself, and then all too that I only have 10 minutes and I unanimous consent to allow the gen- often we have, without these provisions H 8240 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 applying as would ordinarily apply, we cases which were life-and-death mat- our colleagues talk about needing a have an injunction that is issued ters. I am going to give my colleagues scientific basis for OSHA before pro- against the respondent. The small busi- one extreme example. ceeding with further ergonomic regula- ness person especially cannot stand In August 1989 the company fired em- tions. We do have that scientific basis that cost, and it is an intimidating pro- ployee Jerry Whitaker for having pre- with NIOSH, and these same colleagues cedure to go through, and oftentimes viously filed an unfair labor practice want to cut $32.9 million of our safety we get what is called a settlement, but charge with the Board. The Board or- and health research [NIOSH] which is it is not really a settlement. There is dered the company to reinstate the foundation for the OSHA work. nothing to worry about here if my col- Whitaker, and the Fourth Circuit Mr.Chairman, I also would like to leagues understand that these kinds of Court of Appeals enforced the Board’s point out to our colleagues who are preliminary injunctions should never order in 1992. The company ignored railing against the ergonomics regula- be issued anyway unless there are both the Board and the court. This is tion that a letter received in our of- these extraordinary circumstances. Gary Enterprises ignored the court and fices that came from the Office of In- In regard to the so-called salting the Board, and the Board was forced to spector General, the House of Rep- issue, this involves unions that are bring a contempt case and forced the resentatives. The letter says that sending paid or professional union company to comply. After being dis- among the provisions we recommend agents and union members into non- charged, Mr. Whitaker, while he is the Chief Administrative Officer de- union workplaces under the guise of waiting for this process to take place, velop proposals for the approval of the seeking employment, and the question had to find work. He could not find Committee on House Oversight to raised in a number of appellate court work. He finally found work hauling phase out nonfunctioning furnishings cases is whether the union paid and logs. He had to sleep in his car. He had with ergonomic modern furnishings employed applicants for a job can be a heart condition, and one morning over the next 9 years. classified as an employee who would while a contempt case was still pending Let us take the advice of the admin- meet the definition of employee under before the court, Mr. Whitaker was istration of this House and have the National Labor Relations Act. found dead in his truck from a heart ergonomics considerations for people So the issue basically is simply this: attack at age 55. The Board is still try- outside as well as in the Congress. Should the NLRB’s general counsel ing to collect the back pay owed to Mr. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the proceed to investigate and prosecute Whitaker’s estate by the company. gentleman from California [Mr. unfair labor practice charges against This is the kind of case that today BECERRA]. employers who refuse to hire an appli- would be considered for a 10(j) injunc- Mr. BECERRA. Mr. Chairman, I cant who is employed by a union full- tion. It could not happen today. The thank the gentlewoman from Califor- time and under the control and the su- use of the 10(j) injunction today suc- nia [Ms. PELOSI] for yielding this time pervision of the union and there basi- cessfully could have put Mr. Whitaker to me. cally to organize? back to work promptly, reduced the Mr. Chairman, my father has never In the most recent case, which is now back pay owed by the company, and skied in his life, my father has never before the Supreme Court, the Supreme possibly saved and prolonged Jerry played tennis in his life. I doubt he Court stated, and I quote, ‘‘union mem- Whitaker’s life. even wore a pair of skis or touched a bers who apply for jobs so that they This is a life-or-death matter, and we tennis racquet in his life. But for more can organize workers are not employ- are using a shortcut process in the ap- than 50 years he did work with a pick ees under the protection of the Na- propriations process to deal with it. and shovel, and now my father has ten- Mr. BALLENGER. Mr. Chairman, I tional Labor Relations Act,’’ so what is dons in his hands which are contracted yield 1 minute to the gentleman from being suggested here is that they and tendons in his hands which are Geogia [Mr. NORWOOD], a member of should not spend all that money that is hardened. the committee. necessary to prosecute and to inves- Mr. NORWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I ap- Pick and shovel and constantly tigate business people. We should not preciate the gentleman from North stooping down, that is what my father did in building the great Nation that be spending all this money when we Carolina [Mr. BALLENGER] yielding this have a Supreme Court case which will time to me. we have in America. very soon make a decision. As soon as Mr. Chairman, I rise to oppose this Now was it repetitive action that that decision is made, then this par- amendment on the same grounds that I caused those tendons to contract and ticular ban in regard to spending would opposed the Obey amendment 10 min- harden? I do not know, but we should be lifted. utes ago. We must not allow OSHA to have information to determine if in So I think in both of these areas we write an ergonomic standard about a fact that is what caused my father’s have some very commonsense sugges- medical condition they know nothing tendons to contract and harden. But tions. about. We do not even know for sure this legislation does not even allow Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 how many repetitive-strain injuries OSHA to collect the information to minutes to the gentleman from New occur in this country. How can we say make that determination. York [Mr. OWENS]. that it costs $20 billion when we are Whether or not we should have stand- (Mr. OWENS asked and was given not sure exactly who has a repetitive- ards now, I will not make that judg- permission to revise and extend his re- strain injury? How is it two employess ment, but we should at least be allowed marks.) can do the exact same thing, and one of to collect the information needed to Mr. OWENS. Mr. Chairman, 10(j) in- them has a strain injury, and one does make that judgment. This bill under junction processes allow the NLRB, the not? the Republican leadership would not National Labor Relations Board, to do Mr. Chairman, OSHA cannot write allow it to happen. the job they set up to do. They oper- this standard yet. They do not have the I will go back and tell my father ated for the last 60 years, done a great ability, medical science does not have what the Republican Congress wishes job for labor relations in America, but the ability, to determine when a person to do on this particular issue. in their zeal to destroy organized labor has a repetitive-strain injury. Mr. BALLENGER. Mr. Chairman, I and their zeal to destroy the workers of I ask, ‘‘Is your sore elbow sore from yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from this Nation, the Republicans, the ma- tennis, or is it sore from work? Is your Michigan [Mr. HOEKSTRA]. jority, has moved in this appropria- sore ankle from skiing, or is it sore Mr. HOEKSTRA. Mr. Chairman, I tions bill in a way which is abusive, from work?’’ thank the gentleman from North Caro- abuses their power and makes a mock- Mr. Chairman, we do not have the lina [Mr. BALLENGER] for yielding this ery of the democratic process. It ability yet to understand this. Vote time to me. trivializes the institutions that we against this amendment. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to have built for the last 60 years. Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I yield the Pelosi amendment to strike the The 10(j) process, when it was not in myself such time as I may consume. OSHA ergonomic provision, the provi- existence, caused the National Labor Mr. Chairman, responding to the pre- sion on the 10(j) injunctions, and the Relations Board to be impotent in vious speaker, it is interesting to hear provision regarding the processing of August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8241 salting charges by the NLRB. We have of the communications information The CHAIRMAN. The gentlewoman talked about these issues in our Com- revolution of the 21st century. from California has 2 minutes remain- mittee on Economic and Educational Mr. BALLENGER. Mr. Chairman, I ing. Opportunities. We concur with the yield myself the balance of my time. Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, there are a work that has gone on here in the Com- Mr. Chairman, this Congress passed a lot of people here that seem to laugh at mittee on Appropriations. These provi- number of regulatory reforms which OSHA as a pointy-headed agency. I sions included in the bill simply are have benefited America’s employee want to tell you a story. The first day statements by the Committee on Ap- community as much as its employer I ever served on this subcommittee, I propriations that these are areas which community. We have said that we can- walked into the hearing and I heard a are not a priority for the expenditure not protect the safety of the employees witness saying that 40 percent of the of resources. without destroying their jobs. We can workers, shipyard workers, who had Mr. Chairman, we are in a time of reduce the risk without reducing em- worked with asbestos in World War II, making difficult choices. The ployment. This is why we passed risk had died of cancer. That got my atten- ergonomic provision would prevent assessment, cost-benefit, and a regu- tion because I used to work with asbes- OSHA from issuing an overly expensive latory moratorium. tos. regulation as indicated by the draft OSHA has said that in developing What I found out, after I started to proposal already issued. When there ergonomic standards it wants to do dig into it is, that Manville Corp. knew are other demands on OSHA, we should business as usual, no matter what Con- since 1939 that their product killed peo- focus OSHA’s limited resources on re- gress says. Cumulative trauma dis- ple. They knew that workers like me ducing fatalities and workplace acci- orders represent less than 4 percent of were at risk. They did not bother to dents rather than on developing regula- the workplace illnesses, but to drive tell anybody. It is only the protection tions to protect workers from repet- this 4 percent higher, OSHA arbitrarily you get from an agency like OSHA that itive injuries and other ergonomic haz- decided to include back pain, which assures that people eventually find out ards, regulations which will cost jobs, would increase the figure to 28 percent. what threatens their health in the create paperwork, and will not work. But there is a great controversy in the workplace. What we need to do in the area of re- scientific community over whether Mr. Chairman, the issue is not petitive-motion injuries is use common such back pain can be attributed to whether you like individual OSHA sense and not look for a bureaucratic workplace causes. standards or not. Frankly, none of us paperwork maze to solve our problems. In Australia, when an ergonomic are qualified to determine exactly The provision on 10(j) injunctions re- standard was adopted in the 1980’s, in- what those standards should be because quires the Board to pursue injunctive jury rates increased. Workers’ com- those should be scientific not political relief to be guided by uniform standard pensation costs increased as much as 40 judgments. All I am saying with this in determining when injunctive relief percent in some industries, and a single amendment tonight, on these labor is- would be appropriate. It would also company lost more than $15 million in sues, on these worker health related allow parties impacted by injunctive 5 years due to increased production and worker rights related issues, all we relief a opportunity, an opportunity to costs. are saying is leave the choice to the present their cases to the Board to As Tom Leamon, vice president and people who are supposed to be objective open up the process. These seem to me research director for Liberty Mutual about it. Do not turn each and every to be matters of simple fairness and Insurance, a company which has one of these choices into political deci- due process. worked with OSHA to try to develop a sions. The provision on salting merely re- standard, has concluded: The gentleman from North Carolina quires the NLRB to suspend processing I’ve spent a long time trying to make jobs [Mr. BALLENGER] smiles. With all due of charges until the Supreme Court has better and lighter, but there is amazingly respect, he is not objective on this made a determination of whether or little evidence to support a mandatory issue and neither can I. We have both standard. not these employees are covered under had our personal experiences. That is the National Labor Relations Act. It b 1915 why we established these agencies, so does not make sense for the NLRB to Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, how they can make neutral judgments expend resources in an area where it much time is remaining? based on the best possible scientific in- might ultimately be determined that The CHAIRMAN. The gentlewoman formation and based on the best pos- the NLRB has no jurisdiction. from California has 21⁄2 minutes re- sible legal evidence. Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 maining. If we want to toss this into the polit- minute to the gentleman from Massa- Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Chairman, I yield ical arena and have worker health de- chusetts [Mr. OLVER]. myself such time as I may consume. cided by a bunch of politicians based on Mr. OLVER. Mr. Chairman, the labor In that time I want to urge our col- which special interest got to them last, title of this legislation really is not leagues to support this amendment vote against the Pelosi amendment. If about money. It is all about legislating which supports American workers, and we think workers deserve better, vote a return to the labor philosophy of the to give to the people in America con- for it. 19th century just as we are entering cerned about ergonomics the same op- Mr. FAZIO of California. Mr. Chairman, I rise the 21st century. The amendment by portunity that the leadership of this in support of the amendment submitted by my the gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. House of Representatives wants to give colleague from California, Congresswoman OBEY] corrects some of the worst of to the workers in the Congress of the PELOSIÐan amendment which will restore those features, but, pending that, the United States. some equilibrium to the relationship between amendment that the gentlewoman I believe that the calling for a four- American workers and employers. from California [Ms. PELOSI] has of- fifths majority for 10(j) injunction is By reducing funding for and restricting the fered removes some of the limitations really antidemocratic. I urge our col- operations of the National Labor Relations on the NLRB’s actions, but it also al- leagues to vote for fairness and against Board [NLRB], this bill damages one of the lows OSHA to set standards protecting that proposal in the appropriations most important tools that we have in this workers from repetitive-motion inju- bill. Please vote for the Pelosi amend- country for ensuring that fairness and balance ries, and that is clearly going to be one ment to support American workers and remain in the collective-bargaining process. of the largest of the issues of the com- to treat them with the same fairness in The NLRB ensures that American workers munication and information revolution regard to ergonomics we wish to have do not lose their legal right to choose whether that we are going to be having in the in this Congress. or not they will be represented by a union, and 21st century. With that, Mr. Chairman, I yield the it keeps both unions and employers from inter- So, this is an extremely important balance of my time to the gentleman fering with the organizing and collective-bar- amendment that we adopt and make from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY], the rank- gaining process. The NLRB is an independent certain that we go ahead with the abil- ing member of the committee. agency and acts only in response to ity to deal with ergonomic standards Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, how much chargesÐcharges that can be initiated by ei- now and on into the future that is part time remains? ther employers or employees. H 8242 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 Impeding the work of the NLRB just makes The text of the amendment is as fol- SEC. 703. TALLY DURING HOUSE CONSIDER- it harder for middle-income workers and their lows: ATION. families. By striking at the very heart of labor- Part 2, amendment number 2–3, offered by There shall be available to Members in the management cooperation and teamwork, ero- Mr. CRAPO: Page 88, after line 7, add the fol- House of Representatives during consider- sion of the NLRB lays the groundwork for lowing new title: ation of any appropriations bill by the House making millions of American workers more vul- TITLE VII—DEFICIT REDUCTION LOCK- a running tally of the amendments adopted BOX reflecting increases and decreases of budget nerable to the whims of employers who want authority in the bill as reported. to avoid the rules of fair labor practice. By un- SEC. 701. SHORT TITLE. dermining the collective-bargaining system, we This title may be cited as the ‘‘Deficit Re- SEC. 704. DOWNWARD ADJUSTMENT OF 602(a) AL- duction Lock-box Act of 1995’’. LOCATIONS AND SECTION 602(b) pave the way for unfair labor practices, and SUBALLOCATIONS. contribute to the disintegration of the American SEC. 702. DEFICIT REDUCTION LOCK-BOX AC- COUNT. middle class. Without the protection of the (a) ALLOCATIONS.—Section 602(a) of the (a) ESTABLISHMENT OF ACCOUNT.—Title III NLRBÐsafeguards that ensure that both Congressional Budget Act of 1974 is amended of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 is by adding at the end of the following new workers and managers engage fully in the col- amended by adding at the end the following paragraph: lective-bargaining processÐwe are on the new section: ‘‘(5) Upon the engrossment of Senate road back to the days when workers had no ‘‘DEFICIT REDUCTION LOCK-BOX ACCOUNT amendments to any appropriation bill (as de- security. We cannot backslide to the days ‘‘SEC. 314. (a) ESTABLISHMENT OF AC- fined in section 314(d)) for a fiscal year, the when the relationship between employers and COUNT.—There is established in the Congres- amounts allocated under paragraph (1) or (2) employees was ruled solely by management. sional Budget Office an account to be known to the Committee on Appropriations of each I urge my colleagues to support fairness and as the ‘Deficit Reduction Lock-box Account’. House upon the adoption of the most recent balance for American workers, families, and The Account shall be divided into concurrent resolution on the budget for that companies by supporting Congresswoman subaccounts corresponding to the sub- fiscal year shall be adjusted downward by committees of the Committees on Appropria- the amounts credited to the applicable Joint PELOSI's amendment. tions. Each subaccount shall consist of three Mr. NADLER. Mr. Chairman, I rise to ex- House-Senate Lock-box Balance under sec- entries: the ‘House Lock-box Balance’; the tion 314(c)(2), as calculated by the Director press my support for this amendment and my ‘Senate Lock-box Balance’; and the ‘Joint strongest opposition to the provisions in this of the Congressional Budget Office, and the House-Senate Lock-box Balance’. revised levels of budget authority and out- bill which seek to limit the responsibilities and ‘‘(b) CONTENTS OF ACCOUNT.—Each entry in lays shall be submitted to each House by the a subaccount shall consist only of amounts enforcement authority of the National Labor chairman of the Committee on the Budget of credited to it under subsection (c). No entry Relations Board. that House and shall be printed in the Con- of a negative amount shall be made. The NLRB measures in this bill chip away at gressional Record.’’. the basic organizing rights of American work- ‘‘(c) CREDIT OF AMOUNTS TO ACCOUNT.—(1) The Director of the Congressional Budget Of- (b) SUBALLOCATIONS.—Section 602(b)(1) of ers. fice (hereinafter in this section referred to as the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 is This attack on the NLRB could mean the the ‘Director’) shall, upon the engrossment amended by adding at the end of the follow- closing of half of the NLRB field officesÐan of any appropriation bill by the House of ing new sentence: ‘‘Whenever an adjustment obvious attempt to dismantle the ability of the Representatives and upon the engrossment is made under subsection (a)(5) to an alloca- NLRB to halt flagrantly unfair labor practices of that bill by the Senate, credit to the ap- tion under that subsection, the Director of by employers and to provide necessary worker plicable subaccount balance of that House the Congressional Budget Office shall make protections. amounts of new budget authority and out- downward adjustments in the most recent The NLRB now takes over a year to resolve lays equal to the net amounts of reductions suballocations of new budget authority and unfair labor practice cases. Ten percent of the in new budget authority and in outlays re- outlays under subparagraph (A) to the appro- priate subcommittees of that committee in cases are not resolved for 3 to 7 years. In the sulting from amendments agreed to by that House to that bill. the total amounts of those adjustments meantime, workers who have been improperly ‘‘(2) The Director shall, upon the engross- under section 314(c)(2). The revised fired for union organizing activities remain out ment of Senate amendments to any appro- suballoctions shall be submitted to each of work. Is it any wonder many workers are in- priation bill, credit to the applicable Joint House by the chairman of the Committee on timidated from being involved in organizing? House-Senate Lock-box Balance the amounts Appropriations of that House and shall be The Republican leadership, by cutting NLRB of new budget authority and outlays equal printed in the Congressional Record.’’. funds by 30 percent, even in the face of this to— ‘‘(A) an amount equal to one-half of the SEC. 705. PERIODIC REPORTING OF ACCOUNT backlog, shows its true intent to make the STATEMENTS. sum of (i) the amount of new budget author- rights of American workers, enshrined in the ity in the House Lock-box Balance plus (ii) Section 308(b)(1) of the Congressional National Labor Relations Act of 1935, to the amount of new budget authority in the Budget Act of 1974 is amended by adding at choose freely whether to join a union, a fiction. Senate Lock-box Balance for that bill; and the end the following new sentence: ‘‘Such This provision is a direct attack on the ‘‘(B) an amount equal to one-half of the reports shall also include an up-to-date tab- democratic rights of workers. It is an attack on sum of (i) the amount of outlays in the ulation of the amounts contained in the ac- their right to organize, and on their basic right House Lock-box Balance plus (ii) the amount count and each subaccount established by to a fair, safe and healthy workplace. It is an of outlays in the Senate Lock-box Balance section 314(a).’’. for that bill, under section 314(c), as cal- attack on every working American. SEC. 706. DOWNWARD ADJUSTMENT OF DISCRE- culated by the Director of the Congressional Mr. Chairman, I urge my colleagues to en- TIONARY SPENDING LIMITS. Budget Office. sure the basic rights of America's working ‘‘(d) CALCULATION OF LOCK-BOX SAVINGS IN The discretionary spending limit for new men and women and support this very impor- SENATE.—For purposes of calculating under budget authority for any fiscal year set forth tant amendment. this section the net amounts of reductions in in section 601(a)(2) of the Congressional The CHAIRMAN. All time has ex- new budget authority and in outlays result- Budget Act of 1974, as adjusted in strict con- pired. ing from amendments agreed to by the Sen- formance with section 251 of the Balanced The question is on the amendment by ate on an appropriation bill, the amend- Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act the gentlewoman from California [Ms. ments reported to the Senate by its Commit- of 1985, shall be reduced by the amount of the PELOSI]. tee on Appropriations shall be considered to adjustment to the section 602(a) allocations The question was taken; and the be part of the original text of the bill. made under section 602(a)(5) of the Congres- sional Budget Act of 1974, as calculated by Chairman announced that the noes ap- ‘‘(e) DEFINITION.—As used in this section, the term ‘appropriation bill’ means any gen- the Director of the Office of Management peared to have it. eral or special appropriation bill, and any and Budget. The adjusted discretionary Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I demand a bill or joint resolution making supple- spending limit for outlays for that fiscal recorded vote. mental, deficiency, or continuing appropria- year, as set forth in such section 601(a)(2), The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the tions through the end of a fiscal year.’’. shall be reduced as a result of the reduction order of the House today, further pro- (b) CONFORMING AMENDMENT.—The table of of such budget authority, as calculated by ceedings on the amendment offered by contents set forth in section 1(b) of the Con- the Director of the Office of Management the gentlewoman from California [Ms. gressional Budget and Impoundment Control and Budget based upon programmatic and PELOSI] will be postponed. Act of 1974 is amended by inserting after the other assumptions set forth in the joint ex- item relating to section 313 the following planatory statement of managers accom- AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. CRAPO new item: panying the conference report on that bill. Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I offer an ‘‘Sec. 314. Deficit reduction lock-box ac- Reductions (if any) shall occur upon the en- amendment made in order by the rule. count.’’ actment of all regular appropriation bills for The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will des- ignate the amendment. August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8243 a fiscal year or a resolution making continu- one of the basic problems in our budget Guess who gets most of that tax cut, ing appropriations through the end of that process. Right now, as we vote to re- Mr. Chairman? The folks at the top of fiscal year. This adjustment shall be re- duce spending, to try to balance our the heap. Folks making $100,000 a year flected in reports under sections 254(g) and or more. 254(h) of the Balanced Budget and Emer- budget, and we reduce spending in a gency Deficit Control Act of 1985. particular program, project or line We then tried to help the gentleman RTON SEC. 707. EFFECTIVE DATE. item of our budget, all that happens is from Utah [Mr. O ] and others, the (a) IN GENERAL.—This title shall apply to that particular program or project is gentlewoman from California [Ms. all appropriation bills making appropria- eliminated. The money allocated to HARMAN] another, who wanted to have tions for fiscal year 1996 or any subsequent that project is not eliminated. It sim- the lockbox attached to other appro- fiscal year. ply goes into the conference committee priation bills as they moved through (b) FY96 APPLICATION.—In the case of any so that those in the conference com- here. Bill after bill, ‘‘Sorry, kiddo, no appropriation bill for fiscal year 1996 en- mittee can reallocate it to their special way.’’ It was not done. grossed by the House of Representatives on Mr. Chairman, now, when we have or after the date this bill was engrossed by projects. the House of Representatives and before the Mr. Chairman, it is important for us the last of the major appropriation date of enactment of this bill, the Director of to have a system where when we make bills before us, or almost the last, all of the Congressional Budget Office, the Direc- a cut that counts, and that when we a sudden the lockbox is attached to tor of the Office of Management and Budget, talk about deficit reduction on this this bill. Why? Because our Republican and the Committees on Appropriations and floor, our cuts reduce the deficit. This friends are desperately looking for the Committees on the Budget of the House bill does just that. It takes those cuts some Democratic votes for this turkey of Representatives and of the Senate shall, of a bill on final passage. I want to as- within 10 calendar days after that date of en- and puts them into a lock box and makes certain when this bill is sure our friends on the Republican side actment of this Act, carry out the duties re- of the aisle, I do not think that there quired by this title and amendments made conferenced, those lock-box items are by it that occur after the date this Act was used to reduce the statutory as well as are very many people on our side of the engrossed by the House of Representatives. the budgetary limits on our spending. aisle naive enough to think that this (c) FY96 ALLOCATIONS.—The duties of the I encourage the support of the Mem- lockbox provision is going to be sweet Director of the Congressional Budget Office bers of this body for this critical re- enough to make them vote for this and of the Committees on Budget and on Ap- labor, health appropriation bill. propriations of the House of Representatives form and think that we are now going to take one of the major steps in this Let us not be fooled, Mr. Chairman. pursuant to this title and the amendments There are $9 billion or more in cuts in made by it regarding appropriation bills for Congress for budgetary reform. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance this bill from last year, but none of fiscal year 1996 shall be based upon the re- those dollars are going to go in a box vised section 602(a) alloations in effect on of my time. the date this Act was engrossed by the House Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- for deficit reduction. Those babies are of Representatives. self 5 minutes. all going to be used to help finance (d) DEFINITION.—As used in this section, Mr. Chairman, the idea behind the that nice fat $20,000 tax cut for some- the term ‘‘appropriation bill’’ means any lockbox is that, supposedly, when sav- body making $300,000 a year and all of general or special appropriation bill, and any the other tax cuts associated with it. bill or joint resolution making supple- ings are made on the floor in bills that are brought out of the Appropriations I would simply suggest, Mr. Chair- mental, deficiency, or continuing appropria- man, lockbox has been spectacularly Committee, that that money, instead tions through the end of a fiscal year. manipulated politically for the past 7 of being used for another purpose, is The CHAIRMAN. Under the unani- months. I find it ironic that the only locked up in a box and used for deficit mous-consent agreement, the gen- bill that you wind up debating this on tleman from Idaho [Mr. CRAPO] will be reduction. Sounds great. I think we ought to go through the is this bill which contains funding for recognized for 20 minutes and the gen- the poorest people in this country and history of the lockbox in this Congress. tleman from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY] will for middle class working people. The first time that it was raised as a be recognized in opposition for 20 min- It did not apply when the Klug-Obey utes. major issue was on the rescissions bill, amendment passed to eliminate a fat The Chair recognizes the gentleman when major reductions in the existing subsidy for the nuclear power industry. from Idaho [Mr. CRAPO]. fiscal year’s budget were being consid- Oh, no. You would not apply the Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I yield ered by this House. In that bill, in com- lockbox to that. You would not apply myself 2 minutes. mittee, the gentleman from Pennsylva- the lockbox to pork projects when we Mr. Chairman, we have finally made nia [Mr. MURTHA] tried to offer an had the public works bill before us. Oh, it to where the lock-box amendment is amendment assuring that every dollar no. You would not apply it to the now getting an opportunity to be de- that was cut in that bill be used for transportation bill when we had trans- bated and voted on the floor. It has deficit reduction, not for tax cuts. That portation pork out here. Oh, no. Now been nearly 2 years since a bipartisan amendment was defeated. that it affects education, health, labor, group has been working to try to get We then came to the floor, and our however, now you are going to say, this critical budget reform brought for- Republican friends in the majority had well, let us save the money. ward, and I want to thank the gen- a change of heart. Essentially, they Mr. Chairman, I do not think there tleman from Oklahoma [Mr. BREW- were looking for votes. What they said will be any amendments adopted which STER], and the gentlewoman from Cali- was, ‘‘All right, I tell you what. We cut this bill anyway. What that means fornia [Ms. HARMAN], from the Demo- will support the Murtha amendment.’’ is that this is an empty gesture from cratic side, for their support and con- They supported the Murtha amend- the majority party. It is a desperate ef- tinued effort to try to bring this issue ment and they also supported the fort to pick up a few votes on our side. forward. Brewster amendment, which said ‘‘No Frankly, I do not care how people vote Mr. Chairman, I also want to thank money for tax cuts, just use it for defi- on this amendment, because it is so the gentleman from California, Mr. cit reduction.’’ meaningless, but I hope it does not di- ROYCE, the gentleman from New Jer- One day after it was adopted, Mr. vert Members from the fact that if any- sey, Mr. ZIMMER, the gentlemen from Chairman, the Republican chairman of one really cares about a fair balancing Florida, Mr. FOLEY and Mr. GOSS, the the Committee on the Budget said, of budget priorities in this country, gentleman from Michigan, Mr. UPTON, ‘‘Oh, that was just a game to get the they will vote against the underlying the gentleman from Oklahoma, Mr. votes to pass the rescissions bill.’’ bill when the opportunity presents it- LARGENT, the gentleman from Wiscon- They dumped it in Congress and came self. sin, Mr. NEUMANN, the gentleman from back with a hugely modified provision Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 New York, Mr. SOLOMON, for their which allowed only the first year’s sav- minutes to the gentleman from Ohio strong effort on the Republican side to ings to go for deficit reduction, and [Mr. KASICH]. be sure that this important reform they allowed all of the out-year sav- Mr. KASICH. Mr. Chairman, I want comes forward. ings, billions and billions of dollars, to say to those who have been follow- In a nutshell, Mr. Chairman, what over 90 percent of the savings in the ing the progress of the Republican rev- does this amendment do? It corrects bill, to be used for their tax cut. olution, this amendment today on the H 8244 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 lockbox is critically important. There volvement was critical in moving the is now the third highest item in the are a lot of people all over this coun- amendment as quickly as it did move. federal budget, and a child born today try, we call them C–SPAN junkies, and Let me not forget my colleague, the will have to pay, on average, taxes of many of them are as informed as any gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. BREW- $187,000 over his or her lifetime just to group of people you can find within STER], sitting to right whose formida- cover their share of interest on the na- this country, but they did not know, ble presence and leadership on this tional debt. That does not include the many of them, that if you actually cut issue made a big contribution. I also off-budget impact of the national debt spending on an appropriations bill, the thank Rules Committee Chairman itself, which causes higher interest money does not go to reduce the defi- TERRY SOLOMON and PORTER GOSS for rates on everything from homes to cit; that the money, instead, will go for their concerted efforts to report H.R. cars. another spending program. This has 1162. Please support the amendment. been the practice now for about 40-plus Let me say, Mr. Chairman, that a Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 years. reasonable person would believe a cut minutes to the gentleman from Florida The Republicans have now been in in a cut, but not here in Congress. [Mr. GOSS]. the majority since January. This is Money cut from one appropriation bill (Mr. GOSS asked and was given per- now August. We have essentially been is simply shifted to another. mission to revise and extend his re- in charge a very limited period of time. marks.) b 1930 Within this very short period of time, Mr. GOSS. Mr. Chairman, as some- however, we are actually, today, going Lockbox will stop this practice and what of a technician in the effort to de- to pass the first official lockbox bill on make a cut in spending a cut in the vise a lockbox mechanism that could the House floor, so that as we cut deficit. The lockbox, as I have said, has work and still meet the legitimate spending, instead of using Washington many fathers, but I am its mother, and need of flexibility for those who must rules and using it to spend on some- as a mother, I would like to say how write our spending bills, I am pleased thing else, this actually is going to re- proud I am that after a very long ges- to rise in strong support of this duce spending and we will use it to re- tation the baby will be born. lockbox proposal. Our Rules Commit- duce the deficit. Congratulations again to all the bi- tee—members and staff—worked long You know what that is, Mr. Chair- partisan group that worked on this. I hours to ensure that lockbox would be man? That is Main-Street-USA com- offer my strong support for the Crapo more than just a catchy phrase—that mon sense. People on the other side amendment. it would be a powerful and workable criticize us for the way in which we Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 budgetary tool to help us meet and have got lockbox to the floor. I say minutes to the gentleman from Califor- maintain our commitment to a bal- wait a minute. The minority had 40 nia [Mr. ROYCE]. anced budget. And I believe we have years to do it, why did they not do it? Mr. ROYCE. Mr. Chairman, I rise in succeeded in that effort. They response is, ‘‘Well, if we would support of this bipartisan effort to When the House and the Senate vote have just had one more week to be in make our cuts, the cuts that we make to save money in spending bills, those control, we would have got it done.’’ on this House floor, count. What this savings should not be spent elsewhere, That is kind of a joke around here. We bill would do would be to ensure that they should be credited toward deficit could give them another 40 years and it spending cuts to appropriations bills reduction. probably would not have been done be- will be designated directly to deficit On its face, this appears to be a sim- cause this means real spending cuts, reduction. They will not disappear in ple matter—and the principle, that a real reductions in the deficit, and it conference to be respent later. cut should be a cut, truly is simple. means common sense, USA, a Main- This reform, I should share with But given the complexities of our cur- Street-America idea. Members, is supported by such biparti- rent budget process, this simple prin- The beauty of this, Mr. Chairman, is san groups as the Concord Coalition. It ciple becomes complicated in its appli- it is on this bill and we are going to is supported by Citizens Against Gov- cation and one can get hopelessly permanently extend the lockbox for as ernment Waste, Citizens for a Sound mired in arcane commentary on such long as the Republicans, joined by Economy, and the National Taxpayers things as 602(a) allocations, 602(b) some Democrats who have stuck their Union. The amendment makes a statu- suballocations, statutory spending lim- necks out, in order to get a lockbox tory change to the Budget Act of 1974, its, and the like. These are beltway and save this country’s fiscal future. and would require that all net savings terms but they are important to under- Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 below the budgeted 602(b) allocation, standing the minutia of how this thing minutes to the gentlewoman from Cali- whether from amendments on the floor will work. fornia [Ms. HARMAN]. or in committee, will go toward debt As chairman of the Rules Commit- Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Chairman, I thank reduction and not for other spending tee’s Subcommittee on Legislative and the gentleman for yielding me time, projects. Budget Process, I am deeply commit- and I commend him for his effective In the case of this bill, the commit- ted to reforming our entire budget leadership on this issue. tee is already $320 million under its process—it is complicated, it is cum- First of all, I agree that Mr. OBEY 602(b) budget authority allocation, and bersome, it is confusing, it is often re- that the lockbox should have been the net amount of savings and any dundant, and it is generally geared to- passed a lot sooner. Had we had a more savings adopted on the floor of ward spending and preserving the sta- lockbox at the beginning of this Con- this House will be credited to the defi- tus quo. gress, $479 million in cuts from 11 ap- cit reduction lockbox. The lockbox pro- While we proceed on the larger re- propriations bills would have been in vision applies to this bill and to any form effort, there is no reason not to it. Instead, today, the lockbox, sadly, other general or special appropriations move forward now on this one impor- is still empty. It will be empty at the bill or measure which follows, includ- tant piece of the budget process reform end of this bill, because, as has been ing supplemental appropriations, defi- puzzle. I urge strong support for this pointed out, we do not expect to cut ciency appropriations, and continuing lockbox proposal. money from this bill. resolutions upon their engrossment by Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 Nonetheless, Mr. Chairman, we start either house. minutes to the gentleman from Califor- today on a very good footing with a bi- I want to share with Members that nia [Mr. BECERRA]. partisan lockbox amendment that had this passed last year, we would Mr. BECERRA. Mr. Chairman, I many of us have worked on for years. have saved $659 million that we cut on thank the gentleman for yielding me Had it been adopted in the last Con- this floor, but was later respent rather this time. gress it could have included more than than go to deficit reduction. Mr. Chairman, I do not think there is $600 million in cuts adopted to appro- Mr. Chairman, this provision is sup- anyone in this House that is not priations bills. ported by the American people. They pleased to see us with a lockbox I would like to commend the many desperately want and need deficit re- amendment finally before us so that freshmen on the other side whose in- duction. Interest on the national debt when we do see cuts being made, we August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8245 know they are not just going to be for cit under control. And then, after you somebody making $200,000 a year, but naught, because the money that will have cast that tough vote, to see the we will also pretend we are going to have been saved will go on to other moneys not go toward lowering the def- make additional savings in this bill for programs within that particular agen- icit. That is so discouraging. The people at the lower end of the economic cy. American people are just so disturbed scale, when in fact we know that all of If I may, I would like to propound a with that. the savings you are going to have in question to the sponsor of the amend- Finally we have a lockbox that is this bill have already been made, they ment and tell the gentleman that I no- going to correct that. That means have already been cut, and, again, they ticed something. This is an amendment when the gentleman from Oklahoma are being used to justify a tax cut. that was made in order by the Commit- [Mr. BREWSTER] or the gentlewoman Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 tee on Rules. It was printed up. Unlike from California [Ms. HARMAN] or the minute to the gentleman from Okla- many amendments that were not in- gentleman from Idaho [Mr. CRAPO] or homa [Mr. LARGENT]. cluded within the Committee on Rules all of the rest of us, when we have the Mr. LARGENT. Mr. Chairman, I report, this one was. As I understand courage to come out here and vote for thank the gentleman for yielding time it, this amendment applies to all the those cuts, it means now they are to me. cuts and savings that will be made going to lower the deficit, and we are Mr. Chairman, I would like to say if henceforth. going to get this deficit under control. the only argument that we have to But as the gentlewoman from Cali- I think this is a great day. I am just overcome in order to pass this lockbox fornia mentioned, there were $400 mil- so excited I can hardly stand it. I want is simply that it is not good timing, lion worth of cuts that have been made to jump up and down. Come over here that I look forward to an overwhelming in the previously passed appropriations and vote for this. I want to give the vote on the lockbox, because that is no bills over the last couple of weeks, but gentleman from Idaho [Mr. CRAPO] argument against voting for the those $400 million will not be put into great credit, because for 2 years the lockbox. I am encouraged by that. It is this lockbox. They will be used for gentleman has pursued this. Now we fun to take the field with so little op- other purposes, which I imagine in- are going to get it. Pass it overwhelm- position. For the last month, we have been clude a tax cut for the very wealthy. ingly. I thank the gentleman for the going at the annual ritual of offering So I would ask the gentleman, when American people. amendments to reduce spending in the he went to the Committee on Rules, if Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- Federal budget. As a freshman and a he had asked the Committee on Rules self 2 minutes. Mr. Chairman, I tried to listen to the freshman of the Committee on the to make this lockbox amendment ap- previous speech with a straight face. I Budget, to find out only hours later plicable retroactively to the appropria- just want to say that it was my impres- that we really did not reduce spending, tions bills which we have passed over sion that just last night the gentleman we merely reallocated it, was really the last 2 weeks? from Texas [Mr. FROST] tried to, in the frustrating. I can tell you that in all Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, will the Committee on Rules, amend this pro- sincerity we have been working morn- gentleman yield? posal so that the lockbox could be ap- ing, noon and night to try to get this Mr. BECERRA. I yield to the gen- plied to all of the appropriations bills lockbox retroactive, to get it passed as tleman from Idaho. which had passed the House in this sec- quickly as possible, and get it passed as Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I appre- tion, and that in fact he was turned a freestanding bill, which we are still ciate the gentleman yielding. I agree that we have been trying to down. It seems to me that that fact in- committed to do, in order to make this dicates the basic disingenuousness of lockbox truly effective right now. We get this lockbox amendment put into the situation in which we find our- want to make it effective yesterday the process much earlier, and it should selves. and last month. have been, so we could have caught Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Chairman, will This is the best we can do, and I am some of the savings we already voted my good friend yield? glad to see that we should expect over- on. We did ask for retroactivity. We Mr. OBEY. I yield to the gentleman whelming bipartisan support. found there were some significant tech- from New York. Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I yield nical problems with that. The amend- Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Chairman, I 11⁄2 minutes to the gentleman from New ment has been written to give as much would just say that there is nothing we Jersey [Mr. ZIMMER]. retroactivity as we can within the would rather do than make this retro- Mr. ZIMMER. Mr. Chairman, I thank process that we are working in. I have active, to make it affect everything. the gentleman for yielding me this to say it is not going to catch all of But the gentleman knows after you time. that which has now gone under the pass these bills, and the gentleman Mr. Chairman, I do agree it would bridge. from Wisconsin, DAVID OBEY, is one of have been an excellent idea to have en- Mr. BECERRA. Mr. Chairman, re- the smartest Members of this body, acted the lockbox earlier. In fact, it claiming my time, I thank the gen- once we had made those cuts and then would have been an excellent idea to tleman for this response, because that the 602(b) allocations has been redis- have enacted the lockbox shortly after worries me, because I know this com- tributed, where had they been redis- the gentleman from Idaho introduced mittee can do quite a bit, technical or tributed to? Mostly to NASA, which the legislation along with the gentle- not, to make sure we save the money. people felt we had to reinstate some of woman from California in the 103d Con- It is unfortunate we did not take the the cuts, and mostly to veterans af- gress. Think of all the money we could opportunity to do so. fairs. We could not do that. have saved if it had been passed under Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, reclaiming the previous majority. minutes to my good friend, the gen- my time, I would simply say that I did But, fortunately, we have today for tleman from New York [Mr. SOLOMON], not see that side of the aisle getting the first time a meaningful lockbox the chairman of the Committee on any double hernias trying to do heavy amendment before us, and it will estab- Rules, who has been of great assistance lifting in order to get the lockbox lish that the budget allocations that in this bill. adopted on the rescissions bill. In fact, we so solemnly adopt each year will be Mr. SOLOMON. Mr. Chairman, I took I saw them after they accepted the not floors, but ceilings. It will make it the well on this side of the aisle to look Brewster amendment, the rescission clear that we can reduce spending straight at two people sitting over bill in this House, applying the lockbox below those allocations and have those here, because this truly is a bipartisan principle to all of the savings, both spending cuts stick. Budget cuts can go effort, and it is so badly needed. You near year and outyear in the rescis- straight to deficit reduction, so we can know, there is nothing more disheart- sions bill. I did then see them swallow reduce the amount we add to the na- ening for any Member of Congress than a process in which all of the outyear tional debt every single day until that to stand up here and have the guts and dollars were diverted for the tax cut, blessed day when we finally reach a the courage to vote for cuts of pro- rather then for deficit reduction. balanced budget. grams, some good program, but you I find it interesting that the lockbox Those of us who have been fighting to have to do it. You have to get this defi- will be used to provide tax cuts for cut the budget over the years have felt H 8246 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 sometimes like Sisyphus, the mythical [Mr. CRAPO] for the effort, the leader- that money spent later by the Commit- character who would roll a rock up a ship that they have shown in seeing tee on Appropriations on other pro- hill only to see it roll back down again. that we have an opportunity tonight to grams. That is just not right. Since I Every cut would be reallocated and vote for this amendment. came here in 1991, I have been as- respent. Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I yield tounded that those kinds of things con- 11⁄2 minutes to the gentleman from tinued to happen. b 1945 Florida [Mr. FOLEY]. I committed myself to make sure And more than that, the effort to (Mr. FOLEY asked and was given per- this practice would not continue. make the spending reductions in the mission to revise and extend his re- Today we have a vote on the lockbox first place would be undermined be- marks.) amendment. This lockbox represents cause everybody here knew that the re- Mr. FOLEY. Mr. Chairman, I am de- the most substantive change in the ductions were not real cuts in spend- lighted to join the gentleman from way this place does business that has ing, so why bother to make enemies by Idaho [Mr. CRAPO] in this effort. I also occurred in many decades. voting not to find programs. commend the gentlewoman from Cali- The gentlewoman from California What we are doing is truth in pack- fornia [Ms. HARMAN] and the gentleman [Ms. HARMAN] and I have appeared be- aging. What we are doing is authentic- from Oklahoma [Mr. BREWSTER] on fore the Committee on Rules on every ity in Government. We are making their leadership on this issue. appropriations bill this year. I am sure good on our promise to be fiscally re- The American public is telling us to the gentleman from New York [Mr. sponsible. Vote for the amendment. quit spending their money, quit wast- SOLOMON] is tired of seeing us there. Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 ing their dollars. This is a mechanism As we testified for the Brewster-Har- minutes to the gentleman from Texas by which we can start locking up some man lockbox to be made in order, sav- [Mr. STENHOLM]. of those savings and putting them to- ings were slipping away and being used (Mr. STENHOLM asked and was wards deficit reduction. by the Committee on Appropriations given permission to revise and extend Simply put, I cut a project the other elsewhere. Although a lockbox amend- his remarks.) day $25 million. I found out hours later ment does not capture the $480 million Mr. STENHOLM. Mr. Chairman, I that that money, that $25 million, was in cuts the House has already made rise in support of the Crapo amend- swept off the table and spent some- this year, it symbolizes our commit- ment. I commend the gentleman, and where else. It frustrated this Floridian ment toward deficit reduction. also the gentlewoman from California to know that all of that effort was in I thank the gentleman from New [Ms. HARMAN] and the gentleman from vain because somebody else spent the York [Mr. SOLOMON] and the gentleman Oklahoma [Mr. BREWSTER] for the dollars. from Florida [Mr. GOSS] for bringing bulldogged work that they have pro- Let me tell my colleagues, the gen- this issue before the House today and vided this year to see that we have a tleman from Oklahoma [Mr. LARGENT] agreeing to also debate H.R. 1162 as a chance to vote on this tonight. spoke eloquently on the freshman stand-alone bill after the August re- I have had an interest in the lockbox class. I want to read you from the Fort cess. I think this twofold process is im- idea for several years myself. In fact, Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel an editorial, portant for the House to work its will Tim Penny, the gentleman from Ohio ‘‘Applaud House Foley, for ‘revolt’ ’’: on the lockbox issue and to better en- [Mr. KASICH], and I included in our Congress has played the old shell-and-pea sure that the lockbox becomes law as commonsense budget reform bill last game with the appropriations process for soon as possible. year, but this provision was one of only years, shifting federal money from shell to Our constituents sent a message to four of our provisions that the House shell with so much speed and dexterity that Congress last November to reduce the did not approve. the befuddled taxpayer soon loses track of deficit. Let us be honest to our con- This amendment would simply guar- the pea. stituents. Let us make sure a cut is antee that spending cuts we approve as Foley and many of his colleagues in the really a cut, not additional spending part of any appropriation bills could be Class of 1994 were sent to Congress partly be- cause they pledged to get serious about re- for someone else. I urge my colleagues designated for deficit reduction, a ducing the deficit. In this instance at least, to vote for the lockbox amendment. novel idea. they seem determined to make good on their Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 Having watched year after year after pledge. Foley’s prominent role on this im- minute to the gentleman from Florida year spending cuts voted in the House portant issue may not endear him to the [Mr. STEARNS]. never ever, ever becoming true spend- House leadership, but it should earn him (Mr. STEARNS asked and was given ing cuts, to say that we are a little bit some deserved points with the people he was permission to revise and extend his re- excited about the possibility this time elected to serve. marks.) in spite of the fact that this is the sec- My colleagues, we were sent here Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Chairman, let me ond time this year we have done this, from districts across America to serve ask this question: If you asked the perhaps this time we are going serious the taxpayers, not the leadership of American people, do we need to change and that this will not only pass tonight this Congress. the way Congress works, I think you but that it will receive the full and Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 would get a large percentage that complete support which it deserves and minutes to the gentleman from Okla- would say yes. see that it in fact becomes the law of homa [Mr. BREWSTER]. There is another question. Shortly this House. This is a commonsense leg- (Mr. BREWSTER asked and was we are going to see on this voting islative effort. given permission to revise and extend board around here the votes on this When Congress votes for cuts, we his remarks.) amendment. The American people are should not deceive the American public Mr. BREWSTER. Mr. Chairman, going to look to see who votes against or ourselves about what those cuts today first I want to thank my good this very simple amendment for a mean. Citizens assume a cut means a friend from Idaho, Mr. CRAPO. We have lockbox. That is the other question. reduction in the deficit, not just a worked on this project for 3 years, were Let us show the American taxpayers reshuffling of funds as has always been joined by the gentlewoman from Cali- that we are serious, very serious about the case. With this change, budget sav- fornia [Ms. HARMAN] last year, and it reducing the deficit. Supporting this ings will be placed in the lockbox, has been a long road. But we finally amendment should make it clear that locked in for deficit reduction, without reached the point of getting a vote. we are going to put our money where loopholes. These spending cuts should Mr. Chairman, I rise today in support our mouths are. In other words, we will be initiated automatically unless oth- of the lockbox amendment to H.R. 2127. ensure that any savings realized in the erwise specifically designated or trans- Many Members on both sides of the appropriations bill will automatically ferred, which can be done. aisle have worked tirelessly to get to go into a lockbox and not be spent in I commend the gentlewoman from this point. We have many times seen another way. California [Ms. HARMAN], the gen- amendments come up on the floor. We Such a trust fund is long overdue, my tleman from Oklahoma [Mr. BREW- have made difficult votes to make cuts colleagues. If we show the folks back STER], and the gentleman from Idaho in those bills out there and then seen home that we are truly committed to August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8247 reducing the deficit, it will be easier conference, the spending level is at the that if we do in fact get to the floor for our citizens to accept some of the same if not even higher. and make a cut, that when we make other tough choices we are asking This lockbox changes things. Thanks that cut, it will not matter. They can them to accept. to a bipartisan approach from the very reprogram it however they want any- Again, I want to compliment my col- beginning, we have been able, I think, how afterward, because it will not ac- leagues for offering this amendment. I to change history with that we are tually cut the budget in a way that am proud to be an original cosponsor. I going to be doing tonight. Because in goes to the deficit but it will simply be support the amendment. the future when we cut spending for available to be used in another pro- Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 whatever project it might be, defense, gram in that particular appropriations minutes to the gentleman from Min- nondefense, foreign aid, I do not care, bill. nesota [Mr. MINGE]. the spending is going to come down and That is wrong. It is part of what Mr. MINGE. Mr. Chairman, first, I we are going to win and the taxpayers gives a certain kind of arrogance to the will start by complimenting my Repub- are going to win big time. appropriations process that, frankly, lican colleagues for what I think is an Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 becomes problematic to the rest of the excellent proposal and also those Mem- minutes to the gentleman from Wis- Members. bers on the Democratic side who have consin [Mr. BARRETT]. b been so active in proposing and advo- Mr. BARRETT of Wisconsin. Mr. 2000 cating and bringing this to the floor for Chairman, I rise in strong support of Mr. OBEY. Mr. Chairman, I have no a vote. the Crapo-Harman-Brewster lockbox further requests for time, and I yield The lockbox principle is important; amendment. It is an amendment that I back the balance of my time. it is very important. One can simply think is long overdue. Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I yield say, a cut is not a cut unless we have I have to admit that I was sitting in myself such time as I may consume. the lockbox principle in place, because my office listening to the debate and Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the op- as others have explained, it is alto- hearing many of my colleagues from portunity that we have had to have gether too easy to take the cut, reallo- the other side of the aisle get up and this critical debate. As the gentleman cate it among other programs, and un- talk about their shock, their shock and from Oklahoma [Mr. BREWSTER] said, dermine or defeat the entire effort that amazement that the cuts that they we have been fighting for a long time took place to save money and to reduce thought that they had voted for were to get this issue to the floor, and I the deficit and ultimately to balance not going to deficit reduction but were again want to say thank you to the this budget. going back into be spent again by the gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. BREW- There are aspects of this which re- appropriators. This shock was unbe- STER] and the gentlewoman from Cali- main troubling, and I trust that we lievable to them. fornia [Ms. HARMAN] for their strong will deal with these aspects in the What I find ironic is that we have help in getting this moved forward. weeks to come. had this debate for 7 months this year, This has been a bipartisan effort. One that is most significant, in my and over and over again we have said, For those on the Republican side opinion, is the unfortunate tension If we are going to truly address the def- whom I mentioned earlier, we have that exists in our Federal Government, icit reduction problem, we have to have fought long and hard to bring this crit- the tension between the House and the cuts made on this floor apply to deficit ical reform forward, and now, tonight, Senate and between the White House reduction. And time and time and time we are going to have a vote on one of and Congress. And what we find is that again we have been shot down. We have the most important reforms of our some of these bills and provisions are been unable to have those cuts go to budget process that we have seen in lost in that process. As a consequence, deficit reduction. years. our efforts here to insert the lockbox I think it is wonderful that we have Mr. Chairman, as the previous speak- principle in this appropriations bill it in this bill. Of course, there are not ers have said, we now have an oppor- may not survive the entire conference going to be many cuts in this bill. It is tunity to make our budget process process and the possibility of a veto ironic that we did not have this provi- real, so that when we vote, when those and work with the White House subse- sion in the bill that dealt with trans- C–SPAN viewers see across the bottom quently. portation spending, that dealt with of the screen that the debate is on I urge the Committee on Rules and highway projects, that dealt with true whether to cut spending or to spend the Members of this body to work ag- pork, because that is the place where money on a certain project, then it is gressively to not just pass this but to we should have been making cuts and true that we are truly talking about also make sure that if this does not having those cuts go to deficit reduc- making our cuts count. We now have pass and is not ultimately signed by tion. the opportunity to create the lockbox; the President that we, in fact, have a I am happy it is here now, but when to create a true system in which when lockbox that this body will observe as I hear my colleagues talk about their we vote on this floor to cut spending, its own internal operating procedure so shock, it makes me think, maybe it is spending is cut. that we, in fact, as the U.S. House of not as shocking as they pretend that it Mr. Chairman, I again want to say Representatives, are committed to def- is. that this vote, this bill, has support of icit reduction and we do not abuse the Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 the Concord Coalition, the U.S. Cham- cuts that are made and reallocate these minute to the gentleman from Ohio ber of Commerce, the Citizens Against funds for other programs. [Mr. HOKE]. Government Waste, the Citizens For a Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 Mr. HOKE. Mr. Chairman, we have Sound Economy, and the National Tax- minute to the gentleman from Michi- done a lot, we have gone a long way to payers Union. Those who are interested gan [Mr. UPTON]. reform this Congress. But one of the in our budget process, in protecting the Mr. UPTON. Mr. Chairman, I ran for things that we have not done is, we fiscal stability of our budget system, in Congress to fight spending and to re- have not really tackled a systemic protecting against the increasing taxes duce the deficit. What has been more problem that needs systemic and sys- that we have seen across the country, frustrating than ever has been when we tematic reform. are all standing up tonight, watching have been able to get amendments on One of the problems we have got in the vote here on this floor. this House floor to cut spending, more the Congress is that we really have Mr. Chairman, one final point. I times than not we have lost those bat- three parties. We have got Republicans; think it is very important that we have tles. But in the times that we have ac- we have Democrats; and then we have a strong vote tonight, so that we can tually been successful in cutting spend- appropriators. And sometimes the ap- send a signal to the other body that we ing, something happens. The folks in propriators forget which party they are serious, that this reform was put the gallery, the folks at home may originally came from. into this appropriations bill because we cheer watching C–SPAN, but ulti- The reason that it creates such a expect to see it back, we expect it to mately when the bill goes to the Sen- problem is that the appropriators run come out of conference, and we expect ate and those bills come back from this place in a different way, knowing it to be delivered to the President for H 8248 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 his signature. That kind of a vote is I worked hard to keep my own congres- Mental Health concludes that these what we need to see tonight to send a sional office budget as low as possible both to concerns can be addressed scientif- strong signal. I think that the debate save money and set an example of account- ically, based on present knowledge and today has shown that there is that ability to my constituents. additional research. kind of support, and I am encouraged I was one of the rock-bottom, low spenders I ask the subcommittee chairman if that we pass the lockbox. in my class, returning the unspent dollars of the intent of the committee language Mr. CLINGER. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong my office account back to the Federal Treas- includes addressing the concerns I just support of the gentleman's amendment and ury for deficit reduction. mentioned? would like to commend him for his tireless It's an outrage that we cannot do the same Mr. PORTER. Reclaiming my time, work in bringing the lockbox amendment be- with our annual appropriations. This amend- it is important to note that one of the fore the House. ment will bring some accountability and com- major goals of this bill is to provide for The concept of this proposal is so simple, mon sense into our appropriations process, re- maximum flexibility within the Na- so basic, and so common sense, that only in build the confidence of the American people in tional Institutes of Health as a whole Washington could we have missed it for so what we do, and I urge my colleagues to sup- and, in this particular case, within the many years. port it. National Institute of Mental Health. In essence, the term ``lockbox'' simply The CHAIRMAN. All time has ex- With that in mind, yes, the commit- means that a dollar saved is a dollar savedÐ pired. tee recognizes that the intent of this that when Congress votes to cut funding for a The question is on the amendment request to the National Institute of program, the money won't be spent. offered by the gentleman from Idaho Mental Health includes addressing the Most taxpayersÐand maybe even most [Mr. CRAPO]. specific concerns that you mentioned Members of CongressÐbelieve that when The question was taken; and the in their research. Congress agrees to eliminate $5 billion in Chairman announced that the ayes ap- Mr. SAXTON. Mr. Chairman, I appre- funding for the space station or $7 billion for peared to have it. ciate the willingness of the chairman the super collider, that the money remains in Mr. CRAPO. Mr. Chairman, I demand of the subcommittee to include this the Treasury. But, in fact, under current law, a recorded vote. language in the report. This program of those tax dollars go back to the pot and can The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the research is vital to effective and stra- be reallocated, or spent, later that same year. order of the House today, further pro- tegic planning of dealings with terror- A ludicrous concept at any time, the practice ceedings on the amendment offered by ism, violence and other criminality as- sociated with certain organizations. is simply unsupportable in this era of $200 bil- the gentleman from Idaho [Mr. CRAPO] Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield lion deficits and ongoing struggles to balance will be postponed. AW- the budget by the year 2002. Are there additional amendments to to the gentleman of Ohio [Mr. S YER]. When the American people voted last No- title I, or are there amendments made vember 8, they sent us a message. The mes- Mr. SAWYER. Mr. Chairman I have in order under the rule? sought this time to enter into a brief sage was one of smaller Government, less Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I move colloquy with the distinguished sub- costly Federal programs, and overall fiscal re- to strike the last word. committee chairman, Mr. PORTER, con- sponsibility. Our ability to meet these demands Mr. Chairman, I yield to gentleman hinges upon two factors. cerning title III of H.R. 2127. from New Jersey [Mr. SAXTON]. Mr. Chairman, last year, after many First, we must engage in plain old-fashioned Mr. SAXTON. Mr. Chairman, the tough decisionmaking. We must determine months of bipartisan discussions and Labor, HHS, Education Committee re- negotiations, Congress reauthorized which programs merit continuing, which can port contains language that highlights be privatized, and which should be eliminated the Elementary and Secondary Edu- the need for a Comprehensive Sci- cation Act, including the title I pro- altogether. My committee, the Committee on entific Research Program addressing Government Reform and Oversight, is serving gram for educational disadvantaged characteristics of extra-societal children. as overall House coordinator of this govern- groups. Many Americans are concerned ment-wide downsizing effort and is a strong One fundamental element in deter- and puzzled by the conduct of individ- mining how to allocate title I dollars champion of substantial Federal reform. uals involved in events such as the But even as we go about our business and was the accuracy of the data itself. Be- bombing of the Murrah Federal Build- make the hard choices on departmental re- cause reliable poverty numbers for ing in Oklahoma City, the Sarin attack structuring and program eliminations, we rec- areas below the national level were in the Tokyo subway and the extreme ognize the need for a second type of fun- only available every 10 years from the hold that David Koresh had on his fol- damental reform. That is reform of the legisla- census, title I funds were being distrib- lowers. The National Institute of Men- tive process itselfÐreform which compels fis- uted on the basis of data that was as tal Health is particularly suited to ex- cal responsibility by promoting saving and much as 13 years out of date. amine such concerns in a scientific making spending harder. Therefore, Congress decided that The Crapo lockbox amendment offers just manner. these critical program dollars should The current state of understanding of such a change. It permits lawmakers to be allocated using poverty estimates such groups is extremely limited. choose saving over spending, and allows us, that were updated every 2 years. Equal- Through efforts by the National Insti- for the very first time to honestly tell our con- ly important, the funds would be allo- tute of Mental Health, we hope to in- stituents that a dollar saved is a dollar saved. cated based on school district-level The amendment is long overdue, and crease our understanding of character- numbers, to ensure maximum should be supported. I urge my colleagues to istics of such groups which are associ- targeting of shrinking dollars to those vote ``aye.'' ated with increased potential for ter- students most in need. Ms. ESHOO. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong rorism, violence or other criminal be- Congress recognized that producing support of the Crapo amendment which estab- havior; the manner in which such poverty data for small geographic lishes a deficit reduction lockbox and finally groups recruit individuals and influ- areas between censuses was a complex makes our cuts count. ence their behavior sufficiently to scientific task. That is why, as part of When I was first elected to Congress, one move them toward terrorism, violence, the reauthorization bill, it directed the of my first priorities was to reduce and elimi- and other criminality; the causes be- National Academy of Sciences to con- nate the deficit. I became a cosponsor of the hind members leaving such groups; and duct a 4-year review of the Census Bu- Deficit Reduction Lockbox Act then and have mental health effects of membership in reau’s efforts to produce updated pov- again cosponsored the bill in the 104th Con- such groups. erty numbers for States, counties, gress. I want to clarify the committee re- cities, and eventually school districts. Why is this bill necessary? Every time we port language. The committee lan- The Academy study would have two vote to cut spending in appropriations bills, guage discusses the need for increased important purposes. First, it would these funds can be reallocated to other pro- understanding of such extra-societal provide an objective, scientific review grams rather than being used for deficit reduc- groups, but does not specifically re- of the Census Bureau’s methodology, tion. quest information on the above men- and be able to recommend alternative Mr. Chairman, we must get our House in tioned causes and characteristics to approaches as the project moved for- order before we reorder anything else. the extent the National Institute of ward. August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8249 Second, it would help the Congress though the activities of this office are AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. LIVINGSTON AS A determine the reliability of the up- to be continued at the Secretary’s dis- SUBSTITUTE FOR THE AMENDMENT OFFERED dated poverty numbers at various geo- cretion, no moneys were transferred to BY MR. GREENWOOD. graphic levels, and for various pur- carry out this mandate. Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment, amendment No. 2, poses. Without the Academy’s review, I I would like to clarify with the chair- as a substitute for the amendment. am not at all sure that Congress will man his intent on maintaining disease have confidence in the numbers that The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will des- prevention and health promotion as an ignate the amendment offered as a sub- the Census Bureau publishes. integral part of our national health Unfortunately, the Department of stitute for the amendment policy and ensuring coordination of the The text of the amendment offered as Education has not yet been able to array of Federal efforts in this domain. a substitute for the amendment is as fund the National Academy’s study, I understand the budget constraints follows: due to a substantial rescission in the that you faced in putting together this Part 2, amendment No. 2–2 offered by Mr. Department’s evaluation funds. legislation and appreciate the consider- LIVINGSTON as a substitute for the amend- Mr. Chairman, I am enormously able flexibility that this bill gives the ment offered by Mr. GREENWOOD: pleased and grateful that the commit- Secretary of Health. I also appreciate On page 23, after line 8, insert the follow- tee has included specific funding in the increased funding for specific, cat- ing new paragraph: ‘‘Funding for the Title X categorical pro- this appropriations measure for the De- egorical prevention programs sup- partment to obtain updated, school dis- gram is terminated and $193,349,000 is trans- ported by the Centers for Disease Con- ferred to the Maternal and Child Health trict-level poverty data from the Cen- trol and Prevention, such as for breast block grant and Community and Migrant sus Bureau. Those funds should allow and cervical cancer screening. How- Health Centers programs. Of the $193,349,000 the Bureau to proceed with its program ever, I am concerned that we are abdi- amount, $116,349,000 is transferred to the Ma- as planned. cating a strong Federal leadership role ternal and Child Health block grant program But I am afraid that failure to pro- in orchestrating and coordinating pre- and $77,000,000 is transferred to the Commu- nity and Migrant Health Centers program. ceed with the National Academy study vention policy. at the same time may render the Bu- The additional funds transferred to these Would the chairman agree that a reau’s hard work irrelevant in the end, two programs are available through pro- strong emphasis on disease prevention grams that also provide comprehensive if Congress does not have confidence in and health promotion must be part of health services to women and children.’’. the accuracy and soundness of the re- our national health strategy? The CHAIRMAN. Under the rule, the sulting numbers for purposes of the amendment offered as a substitute for title I program. Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I very the amendment by the gentleman from Therefore, I would ask if you agree definitely, do agree. Louisiana [Mr. LIVINGSTON] is also a 30- that the Department of Education Mr. MORAN. Would the chairman minute amendment, with 15 minutes should be able to use a portion of the further agree that it is the Office of the being controlled by the gentleman $3.5 million set aside in this bill for up- Secretary is best suited to coordinate from Louisiana and 15 minutes by a dated, small area poverty data, for the all prevention activities in the various health-related agencies? Member in opposition. National Academy study that Congress Does the gentleman from Pennsylva- Mr. PORTER. Yes, I do. directed under the Improving Ameri- nia [Mr. GREENWOOD], take the time in ca’s Schools Act? Mr. MORAN. And so you would clar- opposition? Mr. PORTER. I thank the gentleman ify your intent to ensure that funds are Mr. GREENWOOD. I do, Mr. Chair- from Ohio [Mr. SAWYER] for bringing available for orchestrating disease pre- man. this important matter to the commit- vention policy at the Federal level. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman tee’s attention. AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. GREENWOOD from Louisiana [Mr. LIVINGSTON] will As a member of the committee on Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I be recognized for 30 minutes, and the Economic and Educational Opportuni- offer an amendment. gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. ties, Mr. SAWYER was instrumental in GREENWOOD] will be recognized for 30 bringing the problem of outdated pov- The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will des- ignate the amendment. minutes, and the time will be fungible. erty numbers to the attention of this The Chair recognizes the gentleman The text of the amendment is as fol- body and in developing the solution from Pennsylvania [Mr. GREENWOOD]. that we are funding in this appropria- lows: Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I tions measure. Amendment offered by Mr. GREENWOOD: yield myself such time as I may I agree with the gentleman from Ohio Page 22, line 13, insert ‘‘X,’’ after ‘‘VIII,’’. consume. that the National Academy study is an Page 23, line 8, insert before the period the Mr. Chairman, 25 years ago legisla- important part of the effort to ensure following: ‘‘: Provided further, That of the tion sponsored by then-Congressman that we have accurate and timely pov- funds made available under this heading, George Bush, signed into law by then- erty data on which to base the alloca- $193,349,000 shall be for the program under President Richard Nixon, established tion of title I funds. title X of the Public Health Service Act to provide for voluntary family planning an American family planning program. Therefore, I support the gentleman’s projects: Provided further, That amounts pro- It has been one of the most successful point that a portion of the $3.5 million, vided to said projects under such title shall programs in the history of our Nation, as the Department deems appropriate, not be expended for abortions, that all preg- and its success is for simple reasons. could be used to fund the National nancy counseling shall be nondirective, and Family planning prevents unplanned Academy study of the Census Bureau’s that such amounts shall not be expended for pregnancies. And when you prevent un- poverty estimates program. any activity (including the publication or planned pregnancies, you prevent abor- Mr. SAWYER. I thank the gentleman distribution of literature) that in any way tions, and we all support that, and from Illinois for his assistance in this tends to promote public support or opposi- tion to any legislative proposal or candidate every American supports that goal. very important effort. for public office’’. Preventing unplanned pregnancies Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I yield prevents welfare dependency. It allows to the gentleman from Virginia [Mr. The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the poor working women who have no MORAN]. rule, the gentleman from Pennsylvania health insurance to have access to con- Mr. MORAN. Mr. Chairman, I rise to [Mr. GREENWOOD] will be recognized for traception, to birth control, to the inquire about the coordination of dis- 15 minutes, and a Member opposed will kind of counseling and health services ease prevention and health promotion be recognized for 15 minutes. Does any they need, so that they can plan their activities at the Federal level. H.R. Member rise in opposition? families and stay off of the welfare 2127 eliminates explicit funding for the Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I rolls. activities carried out by the Office of rise in opposition. Mr. Chairman, this program has not Disease Prevention and Health Pro- The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman been controversial. It is supported by motion, including the aggressive im- from Louisiana [Mr. LIVINGSTON] will 70 percent of Americans for good rea- plementation of the national preven- be recognized for 15 minutes in opposi- son. But lately it has become con- tion strategy, Healthy People 2000. Al- tion. troversial. The Committee on House H 8250 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 Appropriations chose to zero out, after Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman is what opponents may not like, but it 25 years, to eliminate entirely the title from Pennsylvania [Mr. GREENWOOD] localizes the decisionmaking. X family planning bill. for his participation in what will be a Under the community and migrant Mr. Chairman, my amendment is meaningful debate, however I might health centers categorical program the straightforward. My amendment re- say that while the Livingston-Smith decision will be left to well over 150 stores the title X family planning pro- amendment kills title X, it certainly community and migrant health centers gram. It is also very simple in these re- does not kill family planning. in every State and territory who are gards. It makes it clear, in black and The fact is that the Livingston- allowed under present law to provide white, that not a penny of these funds Smith amendment transfers the entire family planning services or, under can be used to provide abortion serv- $193.3 million for title X, which the present law, can contract out to other ices. That would be controversial. Greenwood amendment would hope to public and private organizations for These funds are not for that purpose. It restore, the same amount allocated in family planning services. These com- makes it clear that all counseling must fiscal year 1995, and it maintains that munity and migrant health centers al- be nondirective. Counselors in these amount and places the entire $193.3 ready do contract out for other serv- programs may not suggest that a client million into the maternal and child ices. choose abortion, but would simply lay health care block grant and the com- According to HHS’ own budget jus- out the legal options under the State munity migrant health centers pro- tifications, over 115 centers have con- laws that are applied. My amendment gram, divided between them. About 60 tracting procedures with outside makes clear that not a penny of these percent of title X funding or $116.3 mil- groups and have contracted out for funds can be used to advocate either in lion would be transferred to the mater- other managed health care services. favor or against pending legislation at nal and child health block grant, and The maternal and child health care any level, nor for or against any can- the remaining 40 percent or $77 million block grant program serves currently didate for public office. will be transferred to the community 13 million low-income women and chil- and migrant health centers program. dren, age 19 and under, and infants. The b 2015 Mr. Chairman, the most important Federal law leaves the discretion to thing is that this amendment does not, This is strictly a birth control, fam- States and localities as to what serv- does not, eliminate or cut one single ily planning debate. ices to spend. Forty percent of those dollar in funding for family planning Now we have an agreement that we funds can be used for various services programs. What it does do is transfer have reached that makes the Living- including family planning. The Library the funding from a separate categorical ston-Smith amendment to my amend- of Congress has documented that family planning program centralized ment in order as a substitute. We have States can and do use their funds for here in Washington into two other agreed to do that for the purposes of a family planning. But the Federal law comprehensive health care programs fair debate. But let me tell my col- guarantees the States provide services for low-income women and children. leagues what the Livingston-Smith to, quote, assure mothers and children, Both of these programs already provide amendment does. and particularly those low-income The Livingston-Smith amendment family planning services, so this mothers and children, access to quality kills title X family planning. It is just amendment does not cut family plan- maternal and child health services, un- that simple. The program is gone, and ning, does not eliminate family plan- quote, and they determine that the at least in 781 counties across the Unit- ning, and even if I were to eliminate low-income mothers and children are ed States there would be no family the funding as opposed to transferring those with family incomes below 100 planning services at all, at all. it to other programs, family planning percent of the Federal poverty guide- What we have to do is we have to de- funds already provided by the Federal lines. feat the Livingston-Smith amendment Government would still be consider- The HHS officials have cited the ma- and then vote in favor of the Green- able. wood amendment. Family planning funds and services ternal and child care health block The opponents will say all they are already provided under Medicaid, grant as a model of the Federal-State choose to do is block-grant these funds under the maternal and child health partnership in that it provides the into existing programs. They are block grant program today, and the so- maximum flexibility to the States to wrong; that is not what their amend- cial services block grant and the com- achieve what they determine is best for ment does because those programs are munity and migrant health centers their citizens. Under the community already written into law in ways that program. In fact, the total conserv- and migrant health centers program, prohibit these funds from being avail- ative estimate that the Federal Gov- comprehensive health care services, in- able for family planning. For the most ernment will spend on domestic family cluding family planning, are already part perhaps 30 percent of the funds planning services in fiscal year 1995 is provided to over 7.6 million low-income might be available, and in many States over $750 million, three-quarters of a and medically underserved people. not a dime will be available to help billion dollars, and that is if we elimi- These centers are all community based, women with their family planning nate this funding, which we do not do. and 61 percent of the people receiving needs. We transfer every single dollar of it. services under this program are of mi- The opponents will say that this is But, in 1994 alone approximately 2.6 nority ethnicity. Sixty-six percent of about abortion. It is not about abor- million Medicaid-eligible people re- the users of community and migrant tion. This debate is not about abortion. ceive family planning services totaling health centers are below the poverty This debate is about family planning. over $580 million apart from this pro- level. Ninety-eight percent of the recipients gram. This is in addition to the mil- I say to my colleagues, if you believe of these funds perform zero abortions, lions of dollars available from State that we should continue to streamline zero abortions, and of the small 2 per- and private resources. programs, downsize and operate more cent that do provide abortions, half of Under the Livingston-Smith amend- comprehensive, efficient health care those happen to be hospitals where ment the same private and public non- programs for our needy, if you want to abortions are performed. profit institutions, the same ones that get the dollars to those who need it I say to my colleagues if they sup- currently receive title X family plan- most and take it away from the Belt- port family planning, a 25-year-old, ning funds, can apply for funds for fam- way bandits, then I urge you to support successful, noncontroversial, main- ily planning under the maternal and the Livingston-Smith amendment. stream program, then I ask them to- child health block grant and the Com- Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I night to stand up, vote against the munity and Migrant Health Centers yield 31⁄2 minutes to the gentlewoman Smith amendment, the Livingston- program. Under the maternal and child from New York [Mrs. LOWEY]. Smith amendment, and vote for the health care block grant program the Mrs. LOWEY. Mr. Chairman, I rise in Greenwood amendment. decision as to what entities will re- strong support of the Greenwood- Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I ceive funds will be left strictly to the Lowey amendment to restore funds to yield myself 6 minutes. State and local authorities. Now that our Nation’s family planning programs. August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8251 The amendment would restore $193 mil- to maintain our Nation’s commitment ence on welfare; when we are trying to lion to the bill for the network of fam- to family planning. reduce the number of abortions and un- ily planning services provided through Mr. Chairman, I urge my colleagues wanted pregnancies; when we are try- the title X program. to vote ‘‘yes’’ on the Greenwood-Lowey ing to reduce the number of breast and Those who oppose this amendment amendment and ‘‘no’’ on the Living- cervical cancer deaths; when we are and support the Livingston-Smith ston-Smith amendment. I urge my col- trying to reduce the number of sexu- amendment say that they are not cut- leagues to save the Nation’s family ally transmitted diseases, including ting family planning, they are just put- planning program. HIV; when we are trying to increase ac- ting the money somewhere else. They Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I cess to health care for low-income indi- contend that family planning services yield 2 minutes to the distinguished viduals—flies in the face of common will continue as before. Well, my col- gentleman from Texas [Mr. DELAY], sense. leagues, this is simply untrue. Here are the majority whip. The elimination of title X as a cat- the facts: Mr. DELAY. Mr. Chairman, the title egorical program could be devastating By law the maternal and child health 10 family planning program was cre- to the availability of family planning program will be able to spend only the ated in the 1970’s with the expressed services to women, particularly low-in- $34 million it would receive under this mission to decrease teen pregnancy. come women. While the funding des- bill for family planning. That is a cut Mr. Chairman, that mission has failed. ignated for title X has been divided be- in family planning services of 72 per- I repeat, title X has bee an abject fail- tween the maternal and child health cent. The rest of the title X funds that ure. block grant, and the community and go to community health centers may Unfortunately, more money does not migrant health centers, there is no re- or may not be used for family planning. solve our country’s social ills. The in- quirement that these additional dollars We simply do not now if community crease in funding for title 10 over the be used for family planning services. health centers will use these new funds past 25 years has actually paralleled a States would be given the option of for family planning or for other very dramatic increase in teen pregnancy, using the dollars for any purpose al- crucial health services. between 1970 and 1992, the teen preg- lowed under the block grant. Here is what we can be sure of. With- nancy rate has increased 23 percent. In Even more damaging is the fact that out a designated source of Federal addition, when title 10 began, 3 in 10 the maternal and child health block funds for family planning Congress’ teen births were out of wedlock. Today, grant includes a number of set-asides: commitment to the prevention of un- 7 out of 10 teen births occur outside of The result being that the maximum wanted pregnancies, to the prevention marriage. amount of the $116 million transferred of out-of-wedlock births, is merely The increase in funding not only cor- to that program that could be actually empty rhetoric. If we fail tonight to re- relates an increase in teen pregnancy, used for family planning services would store funds for family planning, we are but also in teen abortions, the trans- be $34 million—that is a cut of $83.6 reneging on our commitment to reduce mission of sexually transmitted disease million. Thus, this provision would not this epidemic. and the HIV virus. be a simple transfer of money for fam- My colleagues, let us be clear about In addition, title 10 gives a $33 mil- ily planning—it would represent a dras- why title X was eliminated in commit- lion subsidy to Planned Parenthood, tic cut. tee. Title X is on the Christian Coali- the Nation’s largest abortion provider, The title X program currently serves tion’s hit list, and I quote. They call it which also provides contraceptive serv- 4 million women—and some men— the notorious family planning pro- ices and abortion counseling without through more than 4,000 title X clinics gram. Despite the fact that title X parental consent or knowledge. across the country, with preference funds are not and may not be used for I have to say, as a father, the idea of given to low-income women. In Mary- abortions, the Christian Coalition has some other adult counseling my daugh- land, 20 of our 23 counties have title X chosen to make this a fight over the ter to have an abortion, without my clinics only; there are no community right to choose. I frankly just do not knowledge or consent, makes me sick health centers or MCH funded health understand it. to my stomach. department clinics currently providing We may disagree in this body about Mr. Chairman, title 10 has never been family planning services in those 20 the right to choose, but why can we not evaluated and has yet to show any suc- counties. And, 94 percent of the women work together to support a program to cess, and in this bill the amendment of- served at title X clinics in Maryland prevent unwanted pregnancies? Can we fered by the gentleman from Louisiana were served in those same counties. not work together, my colleagues, to [Mr. LIVINGSTON] directs the $193 mil- Title X clinics provide contraceptive prevent abortions? lion back to the States, and, if my col- services, including natural family plan- To my colleagues who do not believe leagues do not believe in block grants, ning methods and supplies, infertility that government should be in the busi- I understand it, but they can compete services, and basic gynecologic care. ness of family planning, failure to re- for this money through the block grant The clinics also provide screening serv- store title X funds today would affect system. This is in addition to the $560 ices for STD’s—some test for HIV— more than just family planning serv- million we already spent in 1995 for breast and cervical cancer, hyper- ices. Title X clinics provide over 4 mil- family planning services through Med- tension and diabetes. Training is also lion American women with their pri- icaid and social services block grants. provided for nurse practitioners and mary health care. If we fail to restore Vote ‘‘no’’ on Greenwood and ‘‘yes’’ other clinic personnel. title X family planning funds today, on Livingston. The program is clearly prohibited the health of millions of American from using any funds for abortion serv- b women will be jeopardized. Eliminating 2030 ices. Title X clinics do not provide title X would cut out pap smears and Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I abortion services. exams for cervical and breast cancer. It yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman The Greenwood-Lowey amendment would cut prenatal and postnatal care. from Maryland [Mrs. MORELLA]. specifically includes language clearly Earlier this year the House passed a Mrs. MORELLA asked and was given stating that no title X funding can be welfare reform bill which stated that permission to revise and extend her re- used for abortions. Mr. Speaker, title X reduction of out-of-wedlock births was marks.) prevents abortions. How can we on the an important Government interest. Mrs. MORELLA. Mr. Chairman, I one hand talk about the need to pre- How can this body claim it wants to thank the gentleman for yielding me vent unwanted pregnancies, and then decrease out-of-wedlock births while at time. vote to eliminate funding devoted to the same time eliminating the corner- Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong sup- family planning services. stone of our Nation’s family planning port of the Greenwood/Lowey amend- It is estimated that for every dollar efforts? Family planning services pre- ment to restore funding for the title X spent on family planning services saves vent abortions, prevent teenage preg- family planning program. an estimated $4.40 in medical, welfare, nancies, help keep women off welfare. To eliminate this Federal program and nutritional services provided by Let us work together, my colleagues, when we are trying to curtail depend- Federal and State governments. If title H 8252 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 X services were not provided, between can be targeted for family planning ini- gram has actually prevented some 1.2 million and 2.1 million unintended tiatives across the country. States from receiving title X funds be- pregnancies would occur each year, Federal family planning assistance is cause they have laws on the books rather than the 400,000 occurring today. not eliminated. But duplication of ef- which require parents to be informed The Greenwood-Lowey amendment fort and administrative costs are. about medical treatment given to their restores funding for this critical pro- Right off the bat, the Livingston- children. For example, the State of gram, and it restores common sense. Smith amendment will free up $3 mil- Utah was denied title X funds in the Vote for the Greenwood-Lowey amend- lion from overhead costs and allow past because of the State’s parental no- ment and against the Smith amend- that money to go to direct services. tification requirements. ment. And as this Congress has searched for And here’s another coincidence. The Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I ways to bring the Federal budget under Office of Population Affairs, which yield 3 minutes to the distinguished control, programs that are unauthor- overseas the title X program, is headed gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. ized have naturally been subject to par- by an abortionist from California who SMITH]. ticular scrutiny. The title X program performed abortions for Planned Par- (Mr. SMITH of New Jersey asked and hasn’t been authorized in 10 years. enthood for over 20 years. This is the was given permission to revise and ex- The Livingston-Smith compromise Clinton administration’s idea of a fam- tend his remarks.) will provide greater power to the ily planning expert. Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- States to administer their own family Mr. Chairman, I hope no one will be fooled man, I thank my good friend for yield- planning programs. As we have seen by the language on abortion that is contained ing me time. Mr. Chairman, today I with many other areas of Government in the Greenwood amendment. The intent of rise in strong support of the Living- spending, the State governments are the amendment is to nullify the Livingston ston-Smith compromise which makes closer to the problem and can more ef- compromise and take the $116 million in new needed reforms in the Nation’s family fectively channel funds so that the moneys from the Community Health Centers planning effort. greatest number of persons—in each in order to re-fund title X, Planned Parent- This vote, Mr. Chairman, is not State—are served in the most efficient hood, and the abortion industry. about ending Federal family planning and most effective way possible. Who is assistance. It is about defunding the The Greenwood amendment sounds like it more capable of delivering services to has restrictions on funding of abortion, but it abortion industry, restoring State and the people, the States or the Federal local control, and redirecting funds to doesn't. It merely restates current law and pol- Government? icy with respect to title X recipients and abor- organizations which recognize that the Part of the answer to this question tion funding, counseling, and lobbying with worst problems of teenage children includes a long, hard look at the title Federal funds. cannot be solved by shutting their par- X program, its pet recipients and its ents out of the process. record of controversy and failure. Most The Greenwood amendment provides no Make no mistake about it, the Liv- of us agree that the purpose of Federal further protections than current law. Everyone ingston-Smith compromise does not involvement in family planning efforts on both sides of the abortion debate knows end Federal family planning assist- is to reduce the number of children that the current restrictions on abortion funding ance. Instead, it redirects to the States born outside of wedlock, particularly do not really restrict. The proabortion side a little over 25 percent of what the Fed- to teenagers. knows that they don't work and that's why the eral Government spends on family Yet, since 1972, teen pregnancy has proabortion side supports the Greenwood planning programs—that’s the $193 mil- skyrocketed from about 50 pregnancies amendment. The pro-life side knows the cur- lion we spend on title X—through per 1,000 teenage girls to about 100 rent restrictions don't work and that's why we block grants them and lets States de- pregnancies per 1,000 girls in 1990. This oppose the Greenwood amendment. Money is cide how and where to best use these is a staggering increase of 100 percent— fungible, and when more than $34 million in needed funds. As many of my col- in a time span of less than two decades. title X funds goes to the Nation's leading pro- leagues know, the Federal Government As with many other social problems, vider of abortions, we are subsidizing the will spend in excess of $745 million on we are slowly making the realization abortion industry. Consider this: Planned Par- family planning programs this year that throwing more money at the prob- enthood's records show that it is an organiza- alone. The lion’s share of the Federal lem is not the answer. The problem tion which favors abortion over childbirth. In spending on family planning is through with title X is not the amount of 1993, for example, Planned Parenthood clinics Medicaid—the Nation’s program for the money, but who spends it and how. directly provided 134,277 abortions, but only poor—which is expected to spend in ex- The largest single recipient of title X provided prenatal care to 9,943 womenÐa cess of $525 million on family planning funds is a private organization—the staggering 13.5 to 1 ratio of planned abortions for poor women in fiscal year 1995. The Planned Parenthood Federation of to planned births. With this record it cannot be Livingston compromise leaves this America, Inc. And its no coincidence denied that whenever tax dollars go to money and this program as is—un- that Planned Parenthood is the largest Planned Parenthood they prop up the abortion touched. The argument that the Fed- abortion provider in the United States industry. eral Government is abandoning family today. Planned Parenthood organiza- Supporters of the Greenwood amendment planning support for poor women is tions perform or refer for over 215,000 will say it prohibits title X funds from being simply not true. abortions each year. This is an organi- used to pay for abortions. But abortion funding It’s a red herring. zation that believes in giving out con- is already prohibited under the Hyde amend- The truth is that under Chairman traceptives to children, and performing ment. And yet, title X funds regularly go to LIVINGSTON’s proposal, the Federal abortions on them, without their par- support organizations and clinics which per- funds now used for title X are redi- ents being informed. Planned Parent- form abortions as a method of birth control. rected on a dollar-for-dollar basis to hood proudly boasts of lobbying to And they will argue that the Greenwood the Maternal and Child Health block overturn State laws that require in- amendment says that title X funds cannot be grant, as well as the Consolidated formed consent before women undergo used for lobbying for or against candidates or Health Centers program. Each of these abortions, and which require parents to legislation. But this too is already in current programs already provides primary be notified before minors have abor- law. And it has never stopped title X recipients health services and preventive services, tions. from lobbying for abortion on demand and including family planning, to low-in- The ideology of Planned Parenthood continued title X funding. come people. Under the Livingston- is one that undermines parental au- Just this month, a pro-life Member got hold Smith compromise the Maternal and thority. Unbelievably, title X regula- of an ``Action Alert'' from Planned Parenthood Child Health Block Grant program will tions actually prohibit grantees from of Central FloridaÐwhich receives title X fund- receive an infusion of more than $116 informing parents about treatment of ingÐopposing the Livingston compromise. million which they can target to fam- and drugs that are given to teens, if The alert urges PP supporters to write and call ily planning programs while the Con- the teenager in question requests that the Member and ``express your outrage.'' It solidated Health Center program will the parents be left in the dark. This bi- also encourages people to go to town hall receive an additional $77 million that zarre requirement in the title X pro- meetings and ``to clap or boo even if you don't August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8253 want to speak.'' It concludes: ``We need to let children, more abortions, and more Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I thank him know we are watching him . . .'' American women locked in poverty. the gentleman for yielding me the We should not be surprised that the Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, time. Planned Parenthood Federation is opposed to how much time remains on both sides? All during the 1980s, never was title X the changes proposed to title X by Chairman The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman a target. On a bipartisan basis, even LIVINGSTON. It is not often that a private orga- from Louisiana [Mr. LIVINGSTON] has 19 though from 1985 on the program was nization can ride the gravy train and receive minutes remaining, and the gentleman unauthorized, people on both sides of tens of millions of dollars in public funding from Pennsylvania [Mr. GREENWOOD] the aisle supported funding for family each year, all from a program that is adminis- has 19 minutes remaining. planning. There was an issue on the tered by one of its own. Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I gag rule that was debated furiously, Finally Mr. Chairman, it is important to note am delighted to yield 2 minutes to the but not for a minute was there a ques- that under the Livingston/Smith amendment, gentlewoman from Nevada [Mrs. tion about funding of title X itself. Planned Parenthood can and presumably will VUCANOVICH]. Mr. Chairman, now, somehow, the apply to receive funding from the States, Mrs. VUCANOVICH. Mr. Chairman, I agenda has changed. Suddenly people which would receive the title X funds that are thank the gentleman for yielding me are jumping up who were supporters of redirected to the Maternal and Child Health the time. title X and saying how terrible a pro- block grant, and the Community and Migrant Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to gram it is. I heard a minute ago one of Health Centers program. But there will be no the amendment offered by Congress- the Members say that he would be more sweetheart deals from the Federal Gov- man GREENWOOD, which would decrease very, very concerned that his daughter ernment. Planned Parenthood will have to the appropriation for the maternal and was going to be counseled to have an compete on a level field with other service child health block grant by $16.3 mil- abortion. providers, many of whom are less ideological, lion and decrease the consolidated No one has ever been counseled to less controversial, and more effective at pro- health centers block grant by $77 mil- have an abortion by a title X clinic. It viding family planning services other than lion in order to fund the unauthorized is against the law to do that. Never has abortions. title X program. I do strongly support a dollar been spent on abortion by a Mr. Chairman, I would ask my colleagues to the Livingston-Smith amendment and title X clinic. It is against the law to consider what we would gain by restoring wish to speak on its behalf. do that. GAO has repeatedly, over and funding for the title X program. Billions more Since 1970 this program has never over again, certified that no money is dollars for an unauthorized program which has had an official impartial evaluation of spent for abortion by title X clinics, a solid record of failure in reducing teen preg- its effectiveness, while its funding has yet here we are with some kind of new nancy? more funding for organizations like continued to increase. However, we do agenda. Planned Parenthood which undermine paren- know that the teenage pregnancy rate Mr. Chairman, this is a program that tal authority and perform or arrange hundreds has doubled, out of wedlock births have helps poor women avoid unwanted of thousands of abortions every year? is that increased, the teenage abortion rate pregnancies through contraception. what the American taxpayers really want? has more than doubled, and sexually Through contraception. Abortion is not Our choice today is not about wheth- transmitted diseases among teenagers a legitimate family planning method. er we should continue to support fam- have increased to where one in four Nobody thinks that, but, good God, ily planning. It is about whether we sexually active teenagers will be in- here we are about to destroy, and make should continue supporting a failed and fected by a sexually transmitted dis- controversial Federal program, or give no mistake, this is an attempt to de- ease every year. stroy title X family planning, a pro- the money to the States, and let them In addition, Mr. Chairman, while experiment with different approaches gram that has served poor women for title X prohibits the use of these funds to solve these persistent and tenacious all of these years, sponsored originally for abortion, many of the clinics per- problems. in this House by George Bush, I might I urge my colleagues to support the form abortions as well as provide fam- say, when he was a Member of Con- compromise worked out by our distin- ily planning services. This arrange- gress. The agenda has completely ment implies that abortion is just an- guished colleague, Mr. LIVINGSTON. changed and it is a bad, bad agenda. Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I other family planning method. No one Mrs. ROUKEMA. Mr. Chairman, will yield 1 minute to the gentleman from supports abortion as a method of fam- the gentleman yield? Illinois [Mr. DURBIN]. ily planning. Mr. PORTER. I yield to the gentle- Mr. DURBIN. Mr. Chairman, in 1970, This program is a disaster. The Liv- woman from New Jersey. President Nixon signed into law the ingston-Smith amendment would ter- (Mrs. ROUKEMA asked and was Title X Family Planning Program to minate funding for title X and transfer given permission to revise and extend provide disadvantaged women with the all of the money to the maternal and her remarks.) means to avoid unintended preg- child health block grant in community Mrs. ROUKEMA. Mr. Chairman, I nancies. No one would have imagined and migrant health centers programs. want to associate myself with the gen- 25 years later, tonight, what we are Services such as preventive and family tleman’s remarks. This is not about trying to do. planning health care for women would abortions, this is about education and In a country where our health bills be better funded under a block grant. stopping unwanted pregnancies. are skyrocketing, the abolition of title Preventive health care is also provided Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of the X will deny preventive health care to to pregnant women, infants, children, amendment offered by my friend from Penn- millions of American women. In a and adolescents. Health care and sup- sylvania, Mr. GREENWOOD, and would like to world where too many unwanted kids port services are also provided to fami- thank him for his hard work on this issue of become the victims of neglect and lies in rural and underserved areas and family planning which is so very important to abuse, abolishing title X will result in to children with chronic health condi- the health of women and their families more unintended pregnancies. In a Na- tions. throughout the country. tion where we should work to keep Mr. Chairman, it would be irrespon- Mr. Chairman, let us get one thing straight abortion safe, legal, and rare, abolish- sible of us to again fund an ineffective about the Greenwood amendment: it provides ing title X will result in more than program that has not even been au- funding for family planning services, and not 500,000 more abortions each year. At a thorized since 1985. We have an obliga- abortions, as critics of this program argue. To time when we should encourage women tion to the American people to fund make this a debate on abortion is to, once to do the responsible thing in planning programs that work and provide real again, distort the truthÐa misfortune that now the size of their families, the abolish- family planning assistance. I urge my seems to permeate every abortion debate. By ing of title X will slam the door on colleagues to vote yes on the Living- attempting to link family planning funds to pro- over 1 million women each year who ston-Smith amendment. viding abortions, it would appear to me that turned to title X for family planning Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I many of my colleagues don't want to educate services. yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from young women about the responsibilities and Mr. Chairman, the abolishing of title Illinois [Mr. PORTER], the chairman of consequences of becoming pregnant without X means more misery, more abused the subcommittee. obtaining abortions. Let me repeat, under the H 8254 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 Public Health Service Act, title X funds cannot Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I nancies. The title X program is esti- be used in programs that perform abortions. am pleased to yield 1 minute to the mated to avert 1.2 unintended preg- What the Greenwood amendment would do gentleman from Florida [Mr. STEARNS]. nancies every year. No title X funds is to help reduce the number of unintended (Mr. STEARNS asked and was given are spent on abortions. Rather than pregnancies. Under title X, grantees such as permission to revise and extend his re- supporting abortions, title X family State and local health departments, hospitals, marks.) planning prevents abortion. family planning clinics, and organizations such Mr. STEARNS. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. Chairman, I therefore strongly as planned parenthood raise awareness would say to my colleague from Illinois support the Greenwood-Lowey amend- among low-income women and adolescents that the reason we have not really ment and urge my colleagues to vote about comprehensive reproductive services looked at this program is we did not for it. and the prevention of teenage pregnancy and have the majority here to do anything. Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I sexually transmitted diseases. The funding for this program just in- am pleased to yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Oregon [Mr. BUNN], a In 1995 alone, it is estimated that over creased exponentially under the Demo- distinguished member of the Commit- 4,000 family planning clinics will provide basic crats, and the only reason we have not taken the time to look at this program tee on Appropriations. infertility and gynecological services and Mr. BUNN of Oregon. Mr. Chairman, screenings for sexually transmitted diseases carefully is because we never had the votes. I rise in opposition to the Greenwood and other health problems to more than 4 mil- amendment and support for the Living- lion low-income women. Now let us talk about what the real problem is. This all comes down to a ston-Smith amendment. Mr. Chairman, critics of family planning like Mr. Chairman, I listened as an earlier to cast a black eye on family planning by debate on, and I think it basically could be thought of this way, do you speaker said that he could not imagine pointing their fingers at organizations such as that 25 years ago we would picture this want young women to be counseled for planned parenthood. Well, let me tell you happening. I cannot imagine that it abortions without parental consent, something Mr. Chairman. In case you didn't takes 25 years of failure before we de- without informed consent? Do you know, opponents of family planning don't like cide to fix the problem. planned parenthood anyway because of its want your Federal Government to We all know the abortion rate and pro-choice position. And, as evidenced in this spend your money to do that? Do you the illegitimacy rate have increased. bill, they will do anything they can to destroy want this same agency that is getting Do we need to go another 5 years of its and any other organizations or clinics ability your taxpayer dollars to go out and failure before we fix it or 10 or 20 to function if they either perform or promote lobby, lobby through the Supreme years? We also had an earlier speaker abortion. And, as I have said already, even Court, using your tax dollars, to fight say that title X provides basic medical though title X funds can't be used for abor- for more abortions? That is what it all services. It provides some services. It tions, critics say that that's not good enough. comes down to. does not provide the kind of services Well, I say to them, enough is enough. Obviously, Mr. Chairman, I rise in that the maternal and child health opposition to the Greenwood amend- Mr. Chairman, let me conclude by saying block grants will. It does not provide ment to appropriate $193 million for that I find it rather ironic that many of those the kind of programs that the commu- title X. same Members who so strongly supported pu- nity and migrant health centers are all The Federal family planning pro- nitive welfare provisions denying benefits to about. gram, title X, was enacted in 1970. Be- mothers under the age of 18 who had more I think it is important to note this fore 1970, people will say, what hap- children or to mothers who had children out of does not make family planning go pened? As the whip has said, the gen- wedlock, would oppose the very funding that away. Family planning is covered tleman from Texas [Mr. DELAY] has would help prevent such births. Because, if we under the maternal and child health mentioned that since title X, we have refuse to address issues related to family block grant, Medicaid, social services had no studies to show that it has planning, then many of the other costs associ- block grants and State moneys. I want- worked, that it has done any of the ated with our present welfare system that we ed to emphasize that this change does things they have talked about. At this are attempting to control in the welfare bill we set a priority. It sets a priority, for ex- point it has ballooned into such a pro- recently passed will continue to rise. ample, with the community and mi- gram that well-to-do families are using grant health centers to provide physi- Mr. Chairman, I applaud those pro-life Mem- it. bers who support family planning and who cian care, dental care, hearing care, Mr. Chairman, I ask the Members to prenatal care, and, yes, family plan- recognize how vital its services are. But, un- support the Smith amendment. fortunately, for many other abortion oppo- ning services. Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I nents, there is no common ground. For them, b 2045 yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from it is all or nothing. As we have already seen Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I California [Mr. RIGGS]. and as we will see again with Congressman yield one minute to the gentleman Mr. RIGGS. Mr. Chairman, I thank LOWEY's amendment, even rape and incest is from California [Mr. MINETA]. the gentleman for yielding, and I thank too much to consider. Opponents insist on tak- (Mr. MINETA asked and was given him for his initiative in this area. ing it one step further, and that is what the permission to revise and extend his re- Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong sup- Smith amendment does. marks.) port of the gentleman’s amendment If we adopt the Smith amendment, then Mr. MINETA. Mr. Chairman, I rise in and in opposition to the amendment by there is a real possibility that no family plan- very strong support of the Greenwood- the gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. ning services will be provided at all, especially Lowey amendment to restore title X SMITH], whom I have the deepest re- since under current law the maternal and child funds to provide for voluntary family spect for. health block grant earmarks most of the funds planning projects. Title X funds sup- However, this issue is not really for non-family planning related services. If this port clinics that provide 5 million low- about abortion politics. At least it were to happen, then my State of New Jersey income women with access to afford- should not be. It is whether the Federal would lose the over $5 million that it receives able, basic health care services, includ- Government ought to be involved in to provide family planning services to 106,000 ing access to all major methods of fam- family planning and pregnancy preven- low-income women. And, I refuse to accept ily planning. In my State of California, tion efforts. It seems to me the pro- this. the working poor are caught without ponents of the Smith amendment are I urge my colleagues not to let this happen. health insurance. Consequently, one really driving a wedge in an area where Vote no on the Smith amendment. Support the out of five women of reproductive age we ought to be able to find middle Greenwood amendment. are uninsured. For any of these women, ground and build some form of biparti- Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, let me title X services are essential to allow san consensus, and that is the overall say to the gentlewoman that someone them to make informed personal deci- goal in this Chamber ought to be pre- said it is not something they can quan- sions regarding their own health and venting unwanted abortions by pre- tify. I would say that this means 798,000 well-being. venting unwanted pregnancies. unintended pregnancies to unmarried Furthermore, family planning is es- I will admit there are elements of the women. sential to preventing unintended preg- title X program that I would like to see August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8255 reviewed and revised through the reau- are married and they do not want to months ago, this body voted to deny thorization process. I am certainly have a child, and they want contracep- assistance to unwed teenage mothers willing to consider means testing the tion for that reason. Let us understand and their children. Tonight we are vot- program. However, I strongly submit something else: That many of the peo- ing on an amendment that would elimi- that you can be both pro-choice and ple who are going to be denied family nate a program that actually prevents pro-life and support the title X family planning services are still going to teenage pregnancies, family planning. planning area. Let us tonight indicate have sex. But what they are also going I agree with a letter sent by 35 Re- to our fellow Americans that we are ca- to have is unintended pregnancies. publicans to our Speaker, Mr. GING- pable of reaching bipartisan consensus. What is the answer we get from those RICH. This debate does not need to be Let us preserve the title X family pro- who oppose this program? Well, what divisive, it should not be politicized. gram. Support the Greenwood amend- they suggest, those who claim they are Family planning is an important na- ment and, unfortunately, reject the against abortion, is end this program, tional health issue. Without family language included in the appropria- which will lead to more abortion. planning, thousands of additional low tions bill. Mr. Chairman, I urge a defeat of the income women will go on the welfare Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I Smith-Livingston amendment. rolls. Title X focuses on preventing un- am pleased to yield 1 minute to the Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I planned pregnancy in the first place. gentleman from California [Mr. DOR- am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the In fact, publicly funding public plan- NAN], the distinguished candidate for gentlewoman from Washington [Mrs. ning services such as Planned Parent- President. SMITH]. hood has prevented 1.2 million preg- Mrs. SMITH of Washington. Mr. Mr. DORNAN. Mr. Chairman, no nancies in a year. Let us not turn our Chairman, I want to first stand and commercials. I did not ask for that. No back on common sense. Family plan- commend the genius of the chairman of commercials. ning is important so every child is a the committee. It looked to me like it Mr. Chairman, Planned Parenthood wanted child. was a no-win when I heard both sides of is what we are debating here tonight. Please support the Greenwood-Lowey this issue, and then the committee Money is fungible, and title X funding amendment. came out with a compromise, which is must be abolished. It has been nothing Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I the genius of the committee chair. but an annual subsidy for the largest yield 1 minute to the gentleman from abortion provider on the plant Earth It did not make me so happy, because I have, after 30-some years of being Nebraska [Mr. CHRISTENSEN]. with the sole exception of the Chinese (Mr. CHRISTENSEN asked and was pro-abortion, I decided that I could not oppressive communist government. given permission to revise and extend They promote abortion, they lobby for stay in that position and became pro- life. And it did not make the other side his remarks.) abortion, and they litigate about abor- Mr. CHRISTENSEN. Mr. Chairman, I so happy, but it really probably did tion. thank the gentleman from Louisiana How many Members saw the movie, what the American people would like. for yielding me the time. TV movie, this last few months glori- And what it did is it left most of the Mr. Chairman, this amendment is the fying Margaret Sanger, the very first family planning money, in fact, all of camel’s nose under the tent. president of Planned Parenthood, still it for welfare women, poor women, all It purports to refund title X but ex- praised by its rank and file members? the access points still there. It just clude abortion from the services title X A young talented actress, Dana said a little tiny part called title X was and its clinics provide. Delaney, Irish, one time I guess prac- going to be block granted back to the Well Mr. Chairman, we’ve been there, ticing Catholic, played her in this glo- States where we could mix it with pro- seen this and done that before. rification piece. grams I helped start in our State, During the Reagan and Bush admin- Here is a few Sanger quotes, and I called the prenatal health program, will fade out. She believed that Ne- and we could mix it with that and have istrations Title X clinics were prohib- groes, as she used the term, and South- some more money for those type of ited from providing abortion counsel- ern Europeans were mentally inferior things and let the states make choices. ing, but Planned Parenthood clinics to native born Americans. She said the It sounded like a great genius. Then continued to provide abortion counsel- Jewish were feebleminded, human I found out there was all this con- ing anyway as well as abortion on de- weeds, and a menace to society. The troversy. Still could have abortion? De- mand, even though they were receiving poor were sinister forces of the hordes cide they did not like it, still does not title X funds. of irresponsibility and imbecility. She like it. But what was happening, then I With the stroke of a pen, President argued that organized attempts to help started getting letters and figured out Clinton made title X funds taken from the poor were the surest sign that our what it was all about. the pockets of hard-working Americans civilization has bred, is breeding, and is Planned Parenthood gets 21 percent available to provide abortions and perpetuating constantly increasing of the money in title X. And Planned abortion counseling. numbers of defectives, delinquents, and Parenthood is a political lobby that is Mr. Chairman, when it comes to title dependents. very big in campaigns, both sides. So it X it’s not enough to say ‘‘you can’t’’. Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I became an issue of they would have to The time has come to say—‘‘you will yield 1 minute to the gentleman from go to the States and compete for this never again.’’ California [Mr. WAXMAN], with the money, where States values and peo- I urge my colleagues to vote no on comment that 85 percent of these funds ple’s values would have to be reflected. the Greenwood amendment. never go to Planned Parenthood. I am not so sure I would want to Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. WAXMAN. Mr. Chairman, let us compete for it. I would just as soon get yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman be clear what the Smith-Livingston rid of title X. I think it failed. I think from Colorado [Mrs. SCHROEDER]. amendment is all about. It is not to we need to figure out how to prevent Mrs. SCHROEDER. Mr. Chairman, I improve family planning around this pregnancies and do family planning a thank the gentleman for yielding me country. It is not for women to get bet- different way. Title X has not worked the time. ter access to primary care, which they real well. I did not get my way, but I Mr. Chairman, I must say I cannot now get under the existing title X pro- am willing to take this compromise believe what Richard Nixon would gram, which, for the most part, is dis- and say okay, this place is a place of think if he were here tonight to watch tributed through State funds for the compromise. this program that he really tried to States to operate. So I urge Members to vote for the utilize to build a bridge, to build a What this is is ideological; it is a Smith amendment and against the bridge over an issue that people hate. payback to the religious right, who Greenwood amendment. We all hate the abortion issue. But peo- hate the idea that some people feel free Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I ple constantly say the solution is fam- to engage in sex outside of marriage yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman ily planning, and title X is family plan- because of contraception. from Connecticut [Mrs. KENNELLY]. ning, and states are allowed to get title Well, let us understand something: Mrs. KENNELLY. Mr. Chairman, X funds. But if you flip it the way they Many of the women who go to clinics wonders never cease. Only a few are trying to go, what you are really H 8256 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 going to say is states are going to be b 2100 I do feel there are too many abor- able to take the funds and decide not Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I tions and do not believe abortion is an to spend them for family planning if yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman acceptable method of birth control or they opt to do that. from New York [Mrs. MALONEY]. should be used to select the sex of a That is wrong. The recipients of this Mrs. MALONEY. Mr. Chairman, I baby. And I firmly believe that absti- planning, family planning in title X, thank the gentleman for yielding to nence is the best choice for unwed cou- are women, tax paying American me. ples. Women. We have heard all sorts of out- Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the But I recognize that abstinence is not rageous charges on this floor that title Greenwood-Lowey amendment. Many X has caused teen pregnancy. Please, always practiced, and, in its place, con- referred to 1992 as the year of the traception is far preferable to abortion. no. Title 10 funds are given under state woman. Today, Mr. Chairman, we face funds and they are not given without a Congress far more hostile to women’s Let me give some facts. We can never family permission and whatever the rights and health than any I remember. know how many abortions have been state law says. It is hard to understand why anyone prevented in Iowa and around the coun- Mr. Chairman, let us be sensible. Let would want to cut the Nation’s prin- try because young couples have had ac- us vote for the Greenwood-Lowey cipal family planning program, one cess to family planning services. But I amendment. that through preventive medicine saves do know that title X funds support 67 Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I $5 for every dollar spent. If family clinics in Iowa, provided family plan- yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman planning is cut, 4 million women, most ning services to nearly 75,000 women in from California [Mrs. SEASTRAND]. Mrs. SEASTRAND. Mr. Chairman, I of whom are young and low-income, 1994. In my district alone, two-thirds of thank the gentleman for yielding me will lose their only health care. the 18,000 women receiving these serv- the time. How can anyone oppose such an es- ices were at or below 150 percent of the Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to sential program? Whose better inter- poverty line. Without the assistance of the Greenwood amendment and in sup- ests are being served? Certainly not title X services, they may be unable to port of the Smith amendment on title those of American women. Once again, obtain the family planning necessary X. the radical right’s agenda is put ahead to prevent unwanted pregnancies which Mr. Chairman, I want to say right off of a good government. Protect Amer- may end in abortion. Title X funds pro- the bat that elimination of title X as a ican women. Vote to keep funding for vide support for 10 family planning government program does not mean title X. Save the Nation’s family plan- clinics in my District four in Polk the elimination of family planning ning program. County, one in Pottawattamie County, services for the poor. What title X sup- Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I one in Montgomery County, one in porters fail to tell the American people yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Harrison County, one in Shelby Coun- is that its funding level is maintained Florida [Mr. WELDON]. ty, one in Audubon County, and one in Mr. WELDON of Florida. Mr. Chair- in this bill. $193 million in family plan- Dallas County. Only one of the four man, prior to coming to this body, I ning assistance—the same level as fis- sites in Polk County performs abortion was a practicing physician. So I used to cal year 1995—remains available services, and they do that without any see a lot of this stuff on a daily basis. through block grants. All current re- title X funds. cipients of title X funding will still be I have to say this program was initi- able to apply for funds from their ated with the intent of helping to deal If the Greenwood amendment fails, States. with the terrible problem of unwanted the funds transferred to the Maternal What we are doing in this bill is rec- pregnancies. The unwanted pregnancy and Child Health Block Grant will not ognizing the inefficiencies of title X as rate has skyrocketed. The abortion provide any family planning in Iowa. a federal program. Title X was estab- rate has skyrocketed. Teenage preg- That is because the State has deter- lished in 1970 as a way to reduce unin- nancy has skyrocketed. This is a dis- mined that none of the MCH funds tended pregnancies by providing serv- mal failure. should be used for that purpose. ices to low-income, poor women. In I saw an amazing statistic yesterday: The loss of title X funds in Iowa fact the program was originally de- The U.S. people get more upset about would leave a Community Health Cen- signed to help poor couples—not indi- wasteful government spending than ter in my district of 1,800 sq miles, to viduals—plan their families. they get upset about violent criminals provide family planning to the nearly Over its 25 years title X has mush- being let out of jail prematurely. That 13,000 women at or below 150 percent of roomed into a model of government in- is the thing that gets them more upset the poverty line. This clinic had 1,500 efficiency and been a contributing fac- than anything else. Here we are today visits for family planning last year. tor to the steady increases in areas arguing about whether or not we The program’s director, Dr. Bery where we were supposed to see dra- should continue to fund a program that Engebretsen told me today it would be matic reductions: single-parent fami- has been a dismal failure. impossible for the clinic to handle the lies; illegitimacy; sexually transmitted The abortion rate is up. The teen approximately 36,000 visits needed to diseases; and despite the assertions of pregnancy rate is up. The venereal dis- make up for the closure of the title X its supporters, abortions. The program ease rate is up. That is why this pro- sites. is another example of where the hand gram was initiated, and it has not of Federal Government—well intended worked. Now we are asked today to Dr. Engebretsen also said, ‘‘without as it may have been—has compounded continue its funding. I support the adequate access to birth control, I ex- a problem. Smith-Livingston amendment. Oppose pect the rate of abortion will increase Block granting these funds allow us Greenwood. in the Fourth District.’’ to do away with a costly and ineffi- Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I The Greenwood amendment recog- cient government bureaucracy that has yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from nizes the importance of separating failed to direct services exclusively to Iowa [Mr. GANSKE], a new Member, our family planning from abortion. It those in need. We are giving States the physician. makes clear that none of these funds (Mr. GANSKE asked and was given flexibility they need to ensure that may be used to perform or counsel on permission to revise and extend his re- services are going directly to those abortion. These safeguards are impor- marks. who need them. tant to ensure that the title X funds This Smith amendment is perfectly Mr. GANSKE. Mr. Chairman, I rise in are used for family planning, not the consistent with Republican efforts in support of the Greenwood amendment. termination of a pregnancy. this Congress to move power and Let me make myself perfectly clear. money away from Washington, DC and I have been strongly and consistently Mr. Chairman, I am strongly anti- into the hands of States and commu- anti-abortion. I will base my vote on abortion. And I believe that a vote nities where it belongs. this amendment on my view of the best against the Greenwood amendment I urge my colleagues to support the way to decrease the incidence of abor- would betray my goal of reducing the Smith amendment. tion. incidence of abortion in America. We August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8257 cannot eliminate effective family plan- marriage. American history since title X was en to be a dismal failure. It was sup- ning without inviting a dangerous in- adopted shows that abortions are up, and out- posed to reduce unplanned pregnancies crease in the number of unwanted preg- of-wedlock births are also up dramatically. among teenagers, but teenage preg- nancies, too many of which end in an Why? Because the Federal Government, with nancy has risen dramatically. It was abortion. taxpayers' money, is subsidizing sex outside supposed to educate teenagers to pre- Mr. Chairman, I know that every one of marriage. vent the number of abortions, but teen- of us, whether we are pro-life or pro- Let's look just at the teenagers who are age abortion has doubled since the in- choice, is anti-abortion. Ask yourself subsidized by title X: One-third of those who ception of the title X program. this simple question before voting. use title X are juveniles. Minors. Children. ‘‘Will the elimination of title X fund- Teenagers. Over 1 million young people each Now, it is hard for some Members to ing increase the incidence of abortion year, who the law says are too young to vote, admit that one of their social engineer- in your district? ’’ I think the answer is too young to enter a contract, often too young ing schemes may be a failure, but title yes. And that is why I support the to have their ears pierced without a parent's X is a failure. It is time we admitted Greenwood amendment. I urge all of permission, can go to a government family that fact. my colleagues to do the same. planning clinic, without knowledge of parents It is also important for us to stress Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I or family. There they don't get instruction in that title X funds will be transferred the moral and other consequences of sex out- yield such time as he may consume to under the Livingston amendment to side marriage. Instead, they get free birth con- the gentleman from Missouri [Mr. EM- block grants for the States. They will ERSON]. trol pills, condoms, and other contraception, be used by individual States who will (Mr. EMERSON asked and was given and treatment for sexually-transmitted dis- be able to set priorities for the use of permission to revise and extend his re- eases: AIDS, syphilis, gonorrhea, and other marks.) forms of venereal diseases. And their parents these funds to benefit their citizens. No Mr. EMERSON. Mr. Chairman, I rise are never told. longer will these funds be a Washing- in opposition to the Greenwood amend- No wonder America's families find it hard to ton setaside for Planned Parenthood ment and in support of the Livingston- guide their children, when the government of- and like-minded groups. Smith language. fers their children an end-run around the fam- Planned Parenthood itself received Mr. Chairman, I rise today in opposition to ily on this, the most intimate of family issues. approximately $35 million in 1995, ap- As a father of five, I don't want government Mr. GREENWOOD's amendment. proximately 19 percent of the entire using my tax dollars to undercut what I teach Each year as we review funding for title X, program services budget for title X my children about morality. abortion supporters manage to cloud the de- programs. bate, claiming that women will not receive And these teens are not all poor, not by a complete medical care if title X is defunded. long shot. That's because title X ignores the All the ills designed to be addressed Let me remind you that title X is not the only family's income, and looks only at the teen- by the title X program have increased. source of family planning assistance available agers'. Thus, even children from wealthy fami- We have a national epidemic of out-of- to women who are economically disadvan- lies qualify for private government help in wedlock births, teenage pregnancy, taged. Each year hundreds of millions of dol- maintaining their sexual conduct. Our tax dol- sexually transmitted diseases and abor- lars from private and State resources and the lars are used to by-pass Mom, and by-pass tion. It is time to let the States at- Federal Government through Medicaid, the Dad, and by-pass the entire family. In their tempt to devise their own solutions. place, a federally-paid worker tells our youth Social Services Block Grant, the Maternal and For all of these reasons, I urge a yes it's OK, you can sleep around all you want Child Health Block Grant and several other vote on the Livingston substitute and a with your boyfriend or girlfriend, regardless of smaller programs are allocated for this type of no vote on the Greenwood amendment. what your family has taught you. The Federal health services. worker won't focus on the fact that it's wrong. Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I I cannot support Mr. GREENWOOD's amend- They don't give you love and moral guidance. yield such time as she may consume to ment which would essentially reinstate the They just give this young person more birth the gentlewoman from Kansas [Mrs. hypocritical title X program. By hypocrical I am control, and treatment for V-D if they catch referring to the clause in title X that states, MEYERS]. something. (Mrs. MEYERS of Kansas asked and ``none of the funds appropriated under this title Title X in this insidious fashion undercuts shall be used in programs where abortion is a America's families and promotes teenage was given permission to revise and ex- method of family planning,'' however, last year promiscuity. Is this what we want to do with tend her remarks.) title X allocated $33 million of its $193 million $193-million a year of our tax dollars?? I do Mrs. MEYERS of Kansas. Mr. Chair- to planned parenthood, the single largest not believe this is what America wants, or man, I rise in strong support of the abortion provider and advocate for legal abor- what our families want. I urge defeat of the Greenwood amendment. tion on demand in the United States. Greenwood amendment, and adoption of the I rise in support of Mr. Greenwood's amend- Plainly and simply, if Mr. GREENWOOD's Livingston and Smith language. amendment is passed title X funds will be re- Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I ment to restore title X family planning grants tained at present levels. Under these levels yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from to the Department of Health and Human Serv- millions of taxpayer dollars will be funneled to Mississippi [Mr. WICKER] a distin- ices. After consulting with Kansas health offi- abortion providers and advocates. Abortion is guished member of the Committee on cials, I am gravely concerned that ending title not family planning. It is family cancellation. As Appropriations. X and rolling the money into the Maternal and we all know planning is something you do be- (Mr. WICKER asked and was given Child Health Block Grant and Migrant and fore the fact. Abortion happens after the fact. permission to revise and extend his re- Community Health Care Centers will seriously I cannot support spending my fellow citizens marks.) reduce family planning access for working low- tax dollars on a program that promotes abor- Mr. WICKER. Mr. Chairman, I thank income women across this Nation. tion and I urge my colleagues to oppose Mr. the chairman for the time. GREENWOOD's amendment. The question before us tonight is The Maternal and Child Health Block Grant Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I yield clear. Should we let the title X pro- has a four-part mission, none of which has to such time as he may consume to the gen- gram, which has been a failure by any do with providing basic routine gynecological tleman from Oklahoma [Mr. ISTOOK]. objective measure, simply continue to care or birth control to women. The Maternal (Mr. ISTOOK asked and was given permis- exist? Or should we attempt to repro- and Child Health block grant's mission is a sion to revise and extend his remarks.) gram these scarce Federal tax dollars Mr. ISTOOK. Mr. Chairman, I rise in where they might provide a better support of the Livingston and Smith service and value to our Nation? language and in opposition to the The title X program was created with Greenwood language. the best of intentions, but it has prov- Mr. Chairman, I oppose the Greenwood amendment, and support the proposals of Mr. LIVINGSTON and Mr. SMITH. The current title X programs hurt America's families; they undercut America's families and our values. How? Because current title X programs promote teenage promiscuity and other sex outside of H 8258 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 laudable one: (A) to ensure mothers and chil- Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of re- dren access to maternal and child health serv- yield such time as he may consume to storing funds to the title X Family Planning ices; (B) to reduce infant mortality; (C) to reha- the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. FA- Program. I commend my colleague Mr. bilitate blind and disabled children; (D) to pro- WELL]. GREENWOOD for offering this important amend- mote community-based care for disabled chil- (Mr. FAWELL asked and was given ment, and am pleased that this amendment dren. permission to revise and extend his re- has bipartisan support. But because of these four specific earmarks marks.) The Title X Family Planning Program has a there are very few dollars left for family plan- Mr. FAWELL. Mr. Chairman, I rise in history of bipartisan support. It was enacted ning. This is not block grantingÐthe Smith support of the Greenwood amendment. with broad bipartisan support in 1970, enjoying amendment simply destroys a successful and Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I support from cosponsor former President tremendously important program which allows yield such time as he may consume to George Bush. President Richard Nixon signed women control over their reproductive lives. the gentleman from New Jersey [Mr. it into law. It has been reauthorized six times Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I FRELINGHUYSEN]. since 1970, always receiving bipartisan con- yield such time as he may consume to (Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN asked and gressional support. the gentleman from Massachusetts was given permission to revise and ex- Unfortunately, choice opponents who don't [Mr. TORKILDSEN]. tend his remarks.) understand the important role that title X (Mr. TORKILDSEN asked and was Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN. Mr. Chair- serves seek to eliminate title X. Instead, they given permission to revise and extend man, I rise in strong support of the have launched an ideological war against his remarks.) Greenwood amendment. Planned Parenthood and in their zeal they Mr. TORKILDSEN. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. Chairman, I believe that the title X fam- may succeed in ending an invaluable program. rise in strong support of the Greenwood ily planning program is a national priority. We In fact, title X does something that many on amendment and in opposition to the have done a disservice by transferring these both sides of the choice debate would agree Smith amendment. monies to other areas with no guarantee that Mr. Chairman, I support title 10 funding and is an important goal: it reduces unwanted these vital services will continue. the Greenwood amendment. I commend my pregnancy and makes abortion rare. Title X provides basic health care services Like so many other provisions that we have colleague from Pennsylvania for his leadership for millions of low-income women. seen during this year's appropriations process, and patience in bringing his amendment to the Without title X, my state of New Jersey will floor. this provision to eliminate title X is part of an This issue is about family planningÐnot lose $5.3 million in designated family planning anti-choice agenda designed to roll back a abortion. Title 10 is the only program that ex- funding and over 106,000 New Jersey women woman's right to choose. But this vote isn't clusively addresses the health of women in will lose access to contraception, pre-natal even about choiceÐit's about ensuring quality this country. It helps keep women off of wel- care, and other basic health services like cer- health care for women. fare, and helps prevent abortions. vical and breast cancer screenings. No title X funds go toward abortion; clinics A facility in my district, HealthQuarters, is This debate is about whether or not we be- have always been prohibited from using title X the only source of health care for thousands of lieve it is a national priority to provide low-in- funds for abortions. What title X does do is women. Seventy percent of these women are come women with family planning information, provide quality health care for low-income well below the Federal poverty level. They education and services. women, many of whom would not receive have no health insuranceÐpublic or private. Mr. Chairman, I respectfully submit that it is health care otherwise. In addition to providing The number of middle-aged women using a national priority. a full range of reproductive health services for family planning facilities is growing because The most recent data estimates each year low income women, title X clinics screen these women are in desperate need of cancer in the United States, there are 3.1 million unin- women for breast an cervical cancer, sexually screening, and they can't afford to pay a doc- tended pregnancies, 1.5 million abortions, and transmitted infections and hypertension. Title tor for preventative care. The block grant ap- 1 million teenage pregnancies. X's family planning services have reduced un- proach proposed in this bill simply won't meet This is a national crisis. wanted pregnancies by an estimated 1.2 mil- these needs because it is impossible to re- Congressman GREENWOOD'S amendment lion. place the nationwide network of 4,200 family simply restores direct funding for title X family It is terribly ironic that anti-choice Members planning facilities already in place. Community planning programs and I urge its passage. seek to eliminate a program that provides health centers simply don't exist in many parts Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I quality health care and is a proven success at of this country. yield such time as he may consume to preventing abortion. Support this bipartisan ef- Even more onerous is the fact that these the gentleman from New Hampshire fort to restore funding to title X, a critically im- block grants provide no language explicitly di- [Mr. BASS]. portant program to American women that en- recting States to use the funding for family (Mr. BASS asked and was given per- courages responsible family planning choices. planning services. Transferring funds to the mission to revise and extend his re- Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I Maternal Child Health Block Grant will mean marks.) yield such time as he may consume to an over 80-percent cut for family planning. Mr. BASS. Mr. Chairman, I rise in the gentleman from Connecticut [Mr. This bill is a black hole for women searching strong support of the Greenwood SHAYS]. for effective family planning and accessible, amendment. (Mr. SHAYS asked and was given per- affordable care. Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I mission to revise and extend his re- Eliminating title 10 is not the message this yield such time as he may consume to marks.) Congress and this majority should be sending the gentleman from New York [Mr. Mr. SHAYS. Mr. Chairman, I rise in to American women or American men. Family BOEHLERT]. support of the Greenwood amendment. planning is clearly an integral part of healthy, (Mr. BOEHLERT asked and was given Mr. Chairman, I rise today in strong support successful families. Moreover, it allows poor permission to revise and extend his re- of the Greenwood amendment to restore fund- women to take responsible control over their marks.) ing for the title X program and in opposition to lives. Mr. BOEHLERT. Mr. Chairman, I rise the Smith amendment to restore the bill's lan- My colleagues, it is here that we must draw in strong support of the Greenwood guage which would block grant these funds. the line. It is here that we must rise above the amendment. It is unfortunate that some Members of Con- rancorous political debate surrounding abor- Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I gress insist on continuing their assault on a tion, because this is not abortion. Let's not yield such time as she may consume to woman's right to choose to have an abortion lose sight of the fact that title 10 is originally the gentlewoman from California [Ms. and her right to comprehensive family plan- Republican legislation. I urge my colleagues to HARMAN]. ning services at the same time. Certainly remember the tradition of a young Congress- (Ms. HARMAN asked and was given these two agendas seem at odds with one an- man from Texas named George Bush, who permission to revise and extend her re- other. helped to pass the founding legislation, and marks.) While I support a woman's right to choose the Republican President, Richard Nixon, who Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Chairman, I rise to have an abortion, like many of my col- signed it into law. in strong support of the Greenwood leagues, I am very troubled by the number of Vote for responsible, healthy families. Sup- amendment, salute the distinguished abortions taking place in our country. I feel it port title 10. Vote for the Greenwood amend- record of Planned Parenthood in pre- is important to concentrate more resources to- ment. venting unwanted pregnancies. ward educating our young people about the August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8259 consequences of sexual activity. I have con- Ms. JACKSON-LEE. Mr. Chairman, I lieve did work, especially as somebody sistently supported the reauthorization of the rise in support of the Greenwood who desperately wanted to see abor- title X program, which funds family planning amendment, offering great support for tions become a thing of the past, title clinics, because I feel it offers women nec- not going back but going forward with X was the one thing as a local adminis- essary family planning information, including family planning. trator that I was able to do, to avoid methods of avoiding unwanted pregnancy. Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I something that I felt very strongly I believe withholding or reducing funding for yield such time as he may consume to about and that is trying to keep abor- title X programs denies poor women in par- the gentleman from Texas [Mr. BENT- tion out of the formula, as options for ticular information about the full range of avail- SEN]. birth control. able medical options. This could cause them (Mr. BENTSEN asked and was given I have to join with the gentleman to make uninformed decisions and deprive permission to revise and extend his re- from Pennsylvania [Mr. GREENWOOD] them of needed medical services. marks. and support him because a dose of re- Current provisions in the bill that would Mr. BENTSEN. Mr. Chairman, I rise ality that I came here to try to bring block grant title X funds with other health pro- in strong support of the Greenwood to the Democratic Party also must be grams will, in fact, reduce the amount of amendment. brought to both sides. money that will be devoted to the vital purpose Mr. BENTSEN. Mr. Chairman, George Or- Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I of family planning. well is alive and well in the Halls of Congress. yield such time as he may consume to Our party talks about the need for encour- This may be 1995, but it sure feels like 1984, the gentleman from North Carolina aging responsibility and taking control of one's when big brother can dictate what health serv- [Mr. TAYLOR]. life and that is exactly what this program aims ices women have access to and then use dou- (Mr. TAYLOR of North Carolina to teach young women. We cannot abandon ble-speak to hide the impact of what is being asked and was given permission to re- these women by eliminating this program at a done. vise and extend his remarks.) time when this Congress has repeatedly sent The termination of title X family planning Mr. TAYLOR of North Carolina. Mr. the message that abortion is not an available programs is just plain wrong. We must fix this Chairman, I rise in support of the Liv- option. wrong by approving the Greenwood amend- ingston-Smith amendment. If we are truly serious about eliminating the ment. This amendment would provide $193 Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of need for abortion in our country, as well as million for title X programs to ensure that this bill's provision to transfer funds from title many of the related social problems caused by women have access to health care services, X to State health programs, and in support of unintended pregnancy, we must reaffirm our including reproductive health care. Women the Livingston-Smith amendment. commitment to the title X program and support should have the ability, no matter what their We have heard some Members argue that the Greenwood amendment. income is, to receive appropriate health care we need to fund title X to ensure that money Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I services. is available for family planning. Mr. Chairman yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Family planning works and should be con- this simply is not the case. Oregon [Mr. WYDEN]. tinued. In Houston, many women regularly As we all know, the title X funds are being (Mr. WYDEN asked and was given redirected to the maternal and child health permission to revise and extend his re- visit title X clinics to see doctors. This may be the only place that low-income women get block grant and community and migrant health marks.) centers. The fact is, these State health pro- Mr. WYDEN. Mr. Chairman, the au- health care. For many women, health care is not affordable and not a priority when they are grams have always been able to use money thors of this appropriations bill should for family planning, and will still be able to do call their legislation the Barefoot and struggling to pay for food and shelter. Title X is the safety net for these low-income women so. Pregnant Act of 1995. I must say that I Under this bill, family planning will simply and should not be eliminated. find this appropriations bill particu- have to compete with other health needs larly odd because so many of our col- Family planning is not about abortion. This debate is about giving women access to when States set their funding priorities. Com- leagues have talked about citizen petition on a fair basis is a very reasonable empowerment throughout this Con- health care services. The Republicans want to eliminate these services in order to pay for tax approach. Funds can be used for the most se- gress. Well, cutting family planning rious health needs in each State, and family takes power from women because it cuts for the wealthy. Family planning is cost- effective and necessary. We must not permit planning can be a part of that. strips them of their most personal Mr. Chairman, I think it is also important to the Republican majority to eliminate these vital choice, the right to plan their own fam- point out that this bill ensures that money for reproductive health services. ily. health needs will go to those who are truly The women of America should have access Cut family planning and it will be poor. Instead of going to affluent or middle- to family planning services so that they, not harder to achieve our national goals of class teens as it does in title X, the funds in the Government, can make the decisions reducing the number of abortions and the State programs will be used for the poor, about their health care. The Greenwood encouraging more personal responsibil- and that group is the one that we are really amendment ensures that low-income women ity. Cut family planning, and our Na- trying to help here. tion takes another step towards two- have the same access as other women, which And let's talk a little bit about what title X tiered medicine, where the wealthy can is fair and responsible. I strongly urge my col- was intended to do when it was brought get access to the services they need leagues to support the Greenwood amend- about, as opposed to what it has actually ac- and the poor go without. ment and oppose the Smith amendment. complished. Since we introduced title X in Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I Support the gentleman from Penn- 1970: yield 1 minute to the gentleman from sylvania [Mr. GREENWOOD]. The teenage out-of-wedlock birth rate has California [Mr. BILBRAY]. PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY doubled. Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. BILBRAY. Mr. Chairman, for the Sexually transmitted diseases among teens have a parliamentary inquiry. last 10 years, I have had the privilege is at an all-time high. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will of administering many Federal pro- The teen-age abortion rate has more than state it. grams for and to the people, 21⁄2 mil- doubled. Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, lion, in San Diego County. I am sure These figures indicate many things, but suc- who has the right to close? my colleagues on the other side of the cess is not one of them. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman aisle are sick and tired of hearing me Mr. Chairman, let's be honest with our- from Louisiana [Mr. LIVINGSTON], a point out all the terrible bad regula- selves. Title X has not achieved its goals. The member of the committee, will have tions that do not work. I will continue States are in a better position to understand the right to close. to do so. They will continue to be sick the particular needs of their areas, so let us Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I of it. But I think there is a responsibil- give them the opportunity and the money to yield such time as she may consume to ity here to point out the ones that do do so. the gentlewoman from Texas [Ms. work. The maternal and child health block grant JACKSON-LEE]. I have to regretfully oppose the and community and migrant health centers are (Ms. JACKSON-LEE asked and was amendment of my dear friend, the gen- a proven successÐlet these organizations de- given permission to revise and extend tleman from Louisiana, because if termine the greatest health needs within their her remarks.) there is any program that I really be- State. H 8260 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 Mr. Chairman, this Congress has dem- bers to know, most of their constitu- care center for prenatal care after being told onstrated a remarkable commitment to put an ents do not support wiping out family by the family planning clinic that they are end to failed or low priority Government pro- planning. If we are ever to get a handle pregnant. grams. TItle X is one of these failed programs, on this, Government must be involved. In terms of health care for both mother and which is why I strongly urge my fellow mem- Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I child, it makes more sense for a woman to go bers to vote for the Livingston-Smith amend- yield 1 minute to the distinguished to one location for all her health care services, ment. gentleman from Virginia [Mr. BLILEY], both family planning and prenatal care. Such Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I chairman of the Committee on Com- an arrangement would be much more likely if yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman merce. these funds are transferred to the MCH block from Utah [Mrs. WALDHOLTZ], one of (Mr. BLILEY asked and was given and the CHC program. our most stalwart Members, a pregnant permission to revise and extend his re- Do not be misled by the rhetoric my fellow lady with shoes on. marks.) colleagues. Family planning services will re- Mrs. WALDHOLTZ. Mr. Chairman, Mr. BLILEY. Mr. Chairman, I rise in main available to women with the Livingston- this pregnant Member’s shoes are firm- opposition to the Greenwood amend- Smith amendment. In fact, better health care ly on. While my shoes are firmly on, I ment and in support of the Livingston/ will be available to women. I urge my col- am proud to rise in strong support of Smith substitute. leagues to join me in opposing the Greenwood Supporters of the Greenwood amend- the Livingston amendment and oppose amendment and in strong support of the Liv- ment would like for everyone to be- the Greenwood amendment. ingston-Smith amendment. I was reluctant to come and speak on lieve that by transferring funds from Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, this issue because I have been careful the Family Planning Program to the woefully, only $34 million of the $116 not to politicize my pregnancy. But I maternal and child health block and million will ever find its way to family the community health centers we are came to share with you a phone call planning. eliminating family planning services from a mother in my home district of Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the for poor women. Nothing could be fur- Salt Lake City yesterday who wanted gentlewoman from Connecticut [Ms. ther from the truth. Both of these pro- me to tell the story of her 16-year-old DELAURO]. grams, in addition to the Medicaid pro- daughter who went to Planned Parent- Ms. DELAURO. Mr. Chairman, I rise gram provide family planning services hood when she suspected she was preg- in strong support of the Greenwood to women. But what these programs nant and when the clinic personnel told amendment and opposition to the provide that family planning does not her she was pregnant, the only option Smith substitute. The Greenwood is comprehensive health care services. amendment would protect access to this 16 year old was offered was an I am convinced that transferring safe and affordable health care for abortion. Four times this young girl these funds will result in better health women by restoring vital family plan- said no, that is not what I want to do. care for women. She finally left the clinic with no more The maternal and child health block ning funding. help than when she had entered it, to is provided to States to improve the Low-income and uninsured working go home and talk to her mother. health status of mothers and children. women of all ages depend on the basic health care and family planning serv- b 2115 States are required to use at least 30 percent for preventive and primary ices provided by community clinics. Her mother called me yesterday and care services for children, 30 percent These clinics rely on Federal funds. said please, support the Smith amend- for services for children with special Without community clinics, millions of ment, let us get this money into a needs and 40 percent for other appro- women would be denied access to po- block grant where our States and com- priate maternal and child health serv- tentially life-saving services such as munities can have a hand in helping ices. These services include prenatal screening for breast cancer, cervical with family planning. I do not want care, well-child care, dental care, im- cancer, hypertension, pap smears, and any more 16 year olds to go through munization, family planning, and vi- routine clinical exams. For many what my 16 year old did. sion and hearing screening services. women, especially young women, com- Mr. Chairman, I am asking Members Community health centers are located munity clinics are their only source for to listen to that mother from Salt throughout the country in areas where there basic health care. Lake City and support the Smith are significant barriers to primary health care. This debate is not about choice. Cur- amendment. In addition to providing primary care, health rent law clearly states that no title X Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, centers also link with services such as WIC, funds may be used for abortions. It is this proud father of two fine young welfare, Medicaid eligibility, substance abuse, about women’s health. men and two beautiful little girls and other social services. Combat the Republican attack on yields 2 minutes to the gentlewoman The health centers program provides com- women’s health; support the Green- from California [Ms. WATERS]. prehensive, perinatal care for women and their wood amendment to help women in Ms. WATERS. Mr. Chairman, I rise in infants. The program also has provided need. support of the Greenwood-Lowey perinatal care services to pregnant adoles- Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I amendment to restore funds to title X. cents who comprise approximately 21 percent yield 1 minute to the distinguished I rise in support of this amendment be- of pregnant women served in the program. Ac- doctor from Oklahoma [Mr. COBURN]. cause I want Members to understand cording to the administration's own statistics Mr. COBURN. Mr. Chairman, I rise to most of us, all of us, want to prevent the program in fiscal year 1993: provided oppose the Greenwood amendment. I pregnancies. We do not like the fact perinatal care to 185,530 women; arranged or think what we need to ask ourselves is, that younger and younger people are provided for the delivery of 104,344 babies to everybody has made a lot of claims bringing babies into the world and we women receiving these services; enrolled about what title X has and has not want to do something about it. Some 79,572 women in prenatal care in the first tri- done. There is not a scientific study people like to throw these statistics at mester of pregnancy; and served 38,898 preg- that will evaluate it. But there is a ret- us day in and day out and say, ‘‘Why nant teens. rospective study based on economics. don’t you stop it?’’ If we had a magic The Family Planning Program on the other Mr. Chairman, what we do know is wand, perhaps we could wave it and hand only provides family planning services in- since 1970, we have had a rise in teen- stop it. cluding contraception, infertility services, basic age pregnancies, a rise in abortion. We Mr. Chairman, these young people gynecological care, and referral for other serv- now have a sexually transmitted dis- are sexually active. They are not just ices. In fact, in March 1992 the administration ease epidemic that is out of control and kids from one community. All commu- released a guidance on a title 10 regulation. unheard of anywhere in the western nities. Your children. Children from The guidance clarified that the purpose of the world. What we also are told is that the Christian Coalition, children all title 10 program is to provide prepregnancy there has not been a study of effective- over America. We have to do something family planning services, not services to preg- ness. about preventing pregnancies. nant women. We have one study that we can look You cannot wipe out title X. You go We can only guess how many women, es- at that will tell us what is going on, too far. This is extreme. I want Mem- pecially adolescents never make it to a health and it is a study that will be published August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8261 next month out of the University of ending family planning, it is saying spent on family planning saves $4.40 California by a Ph.D. economist. It who is going to run it, the Federal Gov- that would otherwise be spent on medi- says the following things: That those ernment or the State government, and cal and welfare costs, saving taxpayers States which spend less money on fam- who has done a good job. $2 billion annually. Family planning ily planning have less of those three Let us look at the Federal plan. 1970 works to save lives and to save money. things. They have less teenage preg- when title X began, teen pregnancy Let us be honest. If we are against nancy, less abortion, less sexually rate, 22 percent. 1992, up to 44 percent. abortion, if we are against escalating transmitted disease. It also says that Teenage births out of marriage, 1970, 30 welfare costs, we must be a society the States with the highest amount of percent. In 1991, 70 percent. The abor- that stands for family planning. We money will have the most abortion, tion rate in 1970, 19 percent; in 1990, 40 must give women a place to go. will have the most teenage pregnancy, percent. Sexually transmitted disease. Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I and the most sexually transmitted dis- Now it is up to one out of four sexually yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman ease. active teenagers. Three million teen- from Connecticut [Mrs. JOHNSON]. Mr. Chairman, I urge Members’ sup- agers a year get sexually transmitted (Mrs. JOHNSON of Connecticut asked port for the Livingston-Smith amend- disease. and was given permission to revise and ment. Mr. Chairman, it is not working on extend her remarks.) PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY the Federal level. Let us let the locals Mrs. JOHNSON of Connecticut. Mr. Mrs. SCHROEDER. Mr. Chairman, I take over. If this group was in charge Chairman, I rise in strong support of have a parliamentary inquiry. of gun control, they would give all the the Greenwood amendment and in The CHAIRMAN. The gentlewoman 15-year olds in America loaded pistols strong opposition to the Smith amend- will state it. and say, only shoot to graze. Let us be ment. Mrs. SCHROEDER. Mr. Chairman, I honest. It is not working. Support the Mr. Chairman, do not be deceived. keep hearing that title X has caused Livingston-Smith alternative; let the The Smith amendment is not an inno- pregnancies. local people run the family planning. cent block grant proposal. It cuts Fed- The CHAIRMAN. The gentlewoman is Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I eral support for women’s health serv- not stating a parliamentary inquiry. yield 1 minute to the gentleman from ices and pregnancy prevention by two- Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I Texas [Mr. DOGGETT]. thirds. In just the maternal and child yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman Mr. DOGGETT. Mr. Chairman, this is health block grant section, it cuts from New York [Ms. SLAUGHTER]. a debate about Elizabeth. Elizabeth, a funding from $116 million to $34 million Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Chairman, I young woman in Austin, TX, who as a result of the mandatory set-asides thank the gentleman for yielding time makes use of the services of Planned in that program. to me. Parenthood of Austin. It is a debate The Smith amendment cuts the Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the about Elizabeth and about thousands of money and cuts access to health care bipartisan amendment to restore fund- other women across this country who services for uninsured low-income ing for title X Family Planning, a pro- should have the right to turn to agen- women. It eliminates services in 25 gram that last year served more than 4 cies like Planned Parenthood. What counties nationwide. million women in 4,000 clinics. type of birth control they use or In my district I have not one commu- Let me make clear that title X does whether they choose to use any birth nity health center and all that mater- not fund abortions; the law will not control at all is none of my business, nal child health money goes to the five allow it. What title X does fund, in ad- and it is none of the business of this big cities. In Connecticut 30 percent of dition to family planning services, is Committee on Appropriations. She all women now receiving pap smears, gynecological exams and Pap smear ought to be able to make the decision routine health services, and yes, preg- tests; mammograms, clinical breast for herself. nancy prevention services, will no exams and education in breast self- Mr. Chairman, what this is all about longer have access to them. exam; screening for high blood pres- is the agenda of an extremist coalition Mr. Chairman, I urge opposition to sure; and screening for sexually trans- that thinks they can put an end to the Smith amendment and support for mitted diseases, as well as education planned parenthood and to deny choice the Greenwood amendment. and counseling on how to avoid and to people like Elizabeth to choose the Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I prevent such diseases. type of family planning that they yield myself the balance of my time. Title X clinics provide critical health think they ought to have. Mr. Chairman, I want to commend and family planning services for mil- Mr. Chairman, I want to preserve her the House, those who agree with me, lions of women who can’t afford private choice. I want to preserve her choice those who oppose us, for what I think insurance, but don’t qualify for Medic- not to have an abortion because she has been a high-toned, important de- aid. These are women working in low- has effective family planning through bate for this country. Let me close paying service-sector jobs that don’t an agency that is providing quality with this, Mr. Chairman. This is not provide health coverage. What does health care services. This is a chance now, never has been, never will be, a eliminating title X say to these work- to speak up for Elizabeth and for debate about abortion. It is a debate ing women? It says, ‘‘Too bad if you women across this Nation to have the about family planning. It is a debate can’t afford a mammogram or pelvic choice of effective family planning that about public health. It is a debate exam. We hope you don’t get breast or they choose, and not this Congress. about the right of women in this coun- cervical cancer, but we’re not going to Mr. GREENWOOD. Mr. Chairman, I try, poor women, to plan their families, do anything to help you detect or pre- yield 11⁄2 minutes to the gentlewoman and we should all stand up for that. vent it.’’ I cannot conceive of a crueler from New York [Ms. MOLINARI]. Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- message that this Congress could send Ms. MOLINARI. Mr. Chairman, I ance of my time. to American women. thank the gentleman for yielding time b With an allocation that works out to to me. 2130 just 75 cents per person each year, title Mr. Chairman, title X and family Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I X is one of the best bargains around. I planning works. In 1995, over 5 million yield the balance of my time to the urge colleagues to vote in support of low-income and uninsured women were very distinguished gentleman from Illi- protecting this critical program. served in clinics. In addition to family nois [Mr. HYDE]. Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I planning services, they provided (Mr. HYDE asked and was given per- yield 1 minute to the gentleman from screening for breast and cervical can- mission to revise and extend his re- Georgia [Mr. KINGSTON], a distin- cer. Where are these women going to marks.) guished member of the Committee on go? It works. Eighty-three percent of Mr. HYDE. Mr. Chairman, I am fill- Appropriations. women receiving Federal family plan- ing in for the gentleman from Georgia Mr. KINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I ning services rely on clinics funded by [Mr. GINGRICH], who was supposed to think we have to put this in perspec- title X. And where are these women close, but he is tied up somewhere, so tive. What we are arguing here is not now going to go? Every public dollar here I am. H 8262 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 This debate is not about family plan- mean-spirited attack on American SEQUENTIAL VOTES POSTPONED IN COMMITTEE ning. This debate is about who will de- women. We have come too far to let OF THE WHOLE liver the family planning. demagogic extremists reverse our The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the On welfare, on grants to fight crime, gains. order of the House of today, proceed- the Republicans have taken the posi- Mr. FAZIO of Califorina. Mr. Chairman, I rise ings will now resume on those amend- tion that Washington can not do it as in support of the amendment offered by the ments on which further proceedings well as the localities can, that States gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. GREEN- were postponed, in the following order: ought not to be administrative dis- WOOD]. This amendment would restore sepa- amendment No. 36 offered by the gen- tricts of the Federal Government, and rate, discrete funding for the Federal family tleman from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY]; so we have sought to return to local planningÐor ``Title X''Ðprogram. amendments Nos. 60, 61, and 62 en bloc government, to local agencies, the offered by the gentlewoman from Cali- What many of Title X's opponents failÐor funds that heretofore have been dis- fornia [Ms. PELOSI]; amendment No. 2– refuseÐto recognize is that the scope of this bursed by the all powerful Washington 3 offered by the gentleman from Idaho program goes far beyond family planning. The bureaucracy. [Mr. CRAPO]; substitute amendment No. Title X program also provides other preventive Now I tell my colleagues what this 2–2 offered by the gentleman from Lou- health care services to approximately 4 million debate is about. It is about a $33 mil- isiana [Mr. LIVINGSTON]; and then pos- low-income women and teenagers at 4,000 lion Federal earmark to the largest sibly on the underlying amendment No. clinics across America. It provides infertility purveyor of abortions in the world, 2–1 offered by the gentleman from services, as well as counseling, screening, Planned Parenthood, and they are Pennsylvania [Mr. GREENWOOD]. and referral for basic gynecologic care, breast fighting because that is big money, but The Chair will reduce to 5 minutes and cervical cancer, hypertension, diabetes, under our proposal they can still line the time for any electronic vote after anemia, kidney dysfunction, sexually transmit- up with other agencies out in the the first vote in this series. ted diseases, and HIV. Without Title X, mil- States and compete for those dollars. lions of American women would have no other AMENDMENT NO. 36 OFFERED BY MR. OBEY After all, Medicare today spends well accessible, affordable source for quality, com- The CHAIRMAN. The pending busi- over one-half billion dollars on family prehensive health care services. It is the only ness is the demand for a recorded vote planning. source of health care for 83 percent of its cli- on the amendment offered by the gen- Who is sounding the death knell of ents and for many of them it is the single entry tleman from Wisconsin [Mr. OBEY] on family planning? Community health point into the entire health care system. which further proceedings were post- centers, social services block grants, California has received Title X funds since poned and on which the ayes prevailed maternal and child health block by voice vote. grants, and Medicare. They serve 13 the Public Health Services Act was passed in 1970. Last year, more than 350,000 low-in- The Clerk will redesignate the million women, and children, and ado- amendment. lescents who need medical care, as come women received health care services at California's Title X clinics. Yet, because of in- The Clerk redesignated the amend- well. ment. Mr. Chairman, let me in the time left adequate funding, the program serves fewer simply say family planning is a good than half of those currently eligible for serv- RECORDED VOTE thing. I am for family planning, always ices. Although funding for Title X has declined The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has have been. I am against a big Federal by over 70 percent since 1980, health care been demanded. earmark. I am for letting the States costs have soared, and the number of women A recorded vote was ordered. handle it as we are doing in welfare re- of reproductive age who are in need of these The vote was taken by electronic de- form and in crime grants. services has increased. vice, and there were—ayes 155, noes 270, Ms. ESHOO. Mr. Chairman, if 1992 Title X services prevent 1.2 million preg- not voting 9, as follows: was the year of the woman, then 1995 nancies in the United States each year. When [Roll No. 611] must be the year of the assault on we support contraceptive servicesÐBoth care AYES—155 women. and suppliesÐwe thwart unwanted preg- Abercrombie Fattah Maloney A good example of the continuing of- nancies and, ultimately, the need for abortion. Ackerman Fazio Markey fensive against women in this country By reducing unintended births, we also de- Baesler Fields (LA) Martinez Baldacci Filner Matsui is the elimination of title X family crease welfare dependency. Each public dollar Barrett (WI) Flake McCarthy planning money in this bill. spent to provide family planning services Becerra Foglietta McDermott Title X was enacted with broad bipar- saves more than four dollars that would other- Beilenson Ford McHale tisan support in 1970. This program pro- Bentsen Frank (MA) McKinney wise be spent on medical care, welfare bene- Berman Frost Meehan vides critical services to low-income fits and other social services. Bishop Furse Meek women and uninsured working women. Mr. GREENWOOD's amendment restores ac- Bonior Gejdenson Menendez In addition to family planning services, Borski Gephardt Mfume cessible, high-quality, affordable health care to Boucher Gibbons Miller (CA) title X clinics provide screening for women who could not otherwise afford to have Brown (CA) Gilman Mineta breast and cervical cancer, sexually it. I encourage my colleagues on both sides of Brown (FL) Gonzalez Minge transmitted diseases, and hyper- the aisle to support passage of this pro-life, Brown (OH) Green Mink tension. For many women, it provides Bryant (TX) Gutierrez Moran pro-health amendment. Cardin Harman Nadler the only basic health care they receive. The CHAIRMAN. The question is on Chapman Hastings (FL) Neal While some in this body are pro- the amendment offered by the gen- Clay Hefner Obey choice and others are anti-choice, none Clayton Hilliard Olver tleman from Louisiana [Mr. LIVING- of us are pro-abortion. Yet this bill Clyburn Hinchey Owens STON] as a substitute for the amend- Coleman Horn Pallone eliminates the one program which ef- ment offered by the gentleman from Collins (IL) Hoyer Pastor fectively prevents unwanted preg- Collins (MI) Jackson-Lee Payne (NJ) Pennsylvania [Mr. GREENWOOD]. nancies and abortions. Conyers Jacobs Payne (VA) The question was taken; and the Coyne Jefferson Pelosi In fact, for less than 1⁄2 of 1 percent of Chairman announced that the noes ap- Danner Johnson (CT) Peterson (FL) the entire Federal budget, this pro- DeFazio Johnson (SD) Peterson (MN) gram averts 1.2 million unintended peared to have it. DeLauro Johnson, E. B. Pomeroy pregnancies, 516,000 abortions and Mr. LIVINGSTON. Mr. Chairman, I Dellums Johnston Rangel demand a recorded vote. Deutsch Kaptur Reed 344,000 out-of-wedlock births each year. Dicks Kennedy (MA) Richardson I find it interesting that this preven- The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the Dingell Kennedy (RI) Rivers tion program has come under attack order of the House of today, further Dixon Kennelly Rose Doggett Kleczka Roybal-Allard only after its termination was urged by proceedings on the amendment offered Dooley Lantos Rush the Christian coalition in its ‘‘Contract by the gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. Durbin Lazio Sabo with the American Family.’’ LIVINGSTON] as a substitute for the Edwards Levin Sanders Mr. Chairman, we can’t allow special amendment offered by the gentleman Engel Lewis (GA) Sawyer Eshoo Lofgren Schroeder interests to run this Congress. I urge from Pennsylvania [Mr. GREENWOOD] Evans Lowey Schumer my colleagues to vote against this will be postponed. Farr Luther Scott August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8263 Serrano Torricelli Watt (NC) Wicker Wolf Zeliff McNulty Pomeroy Stupak Skaggs Towns Waxman Wilson Young (FL) Zimmer Meehan Poshard Thompson Slaughter Traficant Williams Meek Quinn Thornton Spratt Tucker Wise NOT VOTING—9 Menendez Rahall Torkildsen Stark Velazquez Woolsey Andrews Gekas Solomon Mfume Rangel Torres Stokes Vento Wyden Bateman Moakley Thurman Miller (CA) Reed Torricelli Studds Visclosky Wynn Chrysler Reynolds Young (AK) Mineta Richardson Towns Thompson Ward Yates Minge Rivers Traficant Torres Waters b 2153 Mink Rose Tucker Mollohan Roybal-Allard Messrs. BARCIA, HOEKSTRA, KIL- Velazquez NOES—270 Moran Rush Vento DEE, RAHALL, and LAFALCE changed Murtha Sabo Visclosky Allard Gallegly Murtha Nadler Sanders their vote from ‘‘aye’’ to ‘‘no.’’ Volkmer Archer Ganske Myers Neal Sawyer Walsh Armey Geren Myrick Mr. MFUME changed his vote from Oberstar Schroeder Ward Bachus Gilchrest Nethercutt ‘‘no’’ to ‘‘aye.’’ Obey Schumer Baker (CA) Gillmor Neumann Waters So the amendment was rejected. Olver Scott Baker (LA) Goodlatte Ney Orton Serrano Watt (NC) Ballenger Goodling Norwood The result of the vote was announced Owens Sisisky Waxman Barcia Gordon Nussle as above recorded. Pallone Skaggs Weldon (PA) Barr Goss Oberstar Pastor Skelton Williams ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE CHAIRMAN Barrett (NE) Graham Ortiz Payne (NJ) Slaughter Wilson Bartlett Greenwood Orton The CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the Payne (VA) Smith (NJ) Wise Barton Gunderson Oxley Pelosi Spratt Woolsey Bass Gutknecht Packard order of the House today, the Chair an- nounces he will reduce to a minimum Peterson (FL) Stark Wyden Bereuter Hall (OH) Parker Peterson (MN) Stokes Wynn Bevill Hall (TX) Paxon of five minutes the period of time with- Petri Studds Yates Bilbray Hamilton Petri in which a vote by electronic device Bilirakis Hancock Pickett Bliley Hansen Pombo will be taken on each amendment on NOES—229 Blute Hastert Porter which the Chair has postponed further Allard Foley McCrery Boehlert Hastings (WA) Portman proceedings. Archer Forbes McInnis Boehner Hayes Poshard Armey Fowler McIntosh Bonilla Hayworth Pryce AMENDMENTS EN BLOC OFFERED BY MS. PELOSI Bachus Fox McKeon Bono Hefley Quillen The CHAIRMAN. The pending busi- Baesler Franks (CT) Metcalf Brewster Heineman Quinn Baker (CA) Franks (NJ) Meyers Browder Herger Radanovich ness is the demand for a recorded vote Baker (LA) Frelinghuysen Mica Brownback Hilleary Rahall on the amendments en bloc offered by Ballenger Frisa Miller (FL) Bryant (TN) Hobson Ramstad the gentlewoman from California [Ms. Barr Funderburk Molinari Bunn Hoekstra Regula PELOSI] on which further proceedings Barrett (NE) Gallegly Montgomery Bunning Hoke Riggs Bartlett Ganske Moorhead Burr Holden Roberts were postponed and on which the noes Barton Gekas Morella Burton Hostettler Roemer prevailed by voice vote. Bass Geren Myers Buyer Houghton Rogers The Clerk will redesignate the Bereuter Gilchrest Myrick Callahan Hunter Rohrabacher Bilbray Gillmor Nethercutt Calvert Hutchinson Ros-Lehtinen amendments en bloc. Bilirakis Goodlatte Neumann Camp Hyde Roth The Clerk redesignated the amend- Bliley Goodling Ney Canady Inglis Roukema ments en bloc. Blute Goss Norwood Castle Istook Royce Boehner Graham Nussle Chabot Johnson, Sam Salmon RECORDED VOTE Bonilla Greenwood Ortiz Chambliss Jones Sanford The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has Bono Gunderson Oxley Chenoweth Kanjorski Saxton been demanded. Brewster Gutknecht Packard Christensen Kasich Scarborough Brownback Hall (TX) Parker Clement Kelly Schaefer A recorded vote was ordered. Bryant (TN) Hancock Paxon Clinger Kildee Schiff The vote was taken by electronic de- Bunn Hansen Pickett Coble Kim Seastrand vice, and there were—ayes 197, noes 229, Bunning Hastert Pombo Coburn King Sensenbrenner Burr Hastings (WA) Porter Collins (GA) Kingston Shadegg not voting 8, as follows: Burton Hayes Portman Combest Klink Shaw [Roll No. 612] Buyer Hayworth Pryce Condit Klug Shays Callahan Hefley Quillen Cooley Knollenberg Shuster AYES—197 Calvert Heineman Radanovich Costello Kolbe Sisisky Abercrombie Diaz-Balart Horn Camp Herger Ramstad Cox LaFalce Skeen Ackerman Dicks Hoyer Canady Hilleary Regula Cramer LaHood Skelton Baldacci Dingell Jackson-Lee Castle Hobson Riggs Crane Largent Smith (MI) Barcia Dixon Jacobs Chabot Hoekstra Roberts Crapo Latham Smith (NJ) Barrett (WI) Doggett Jefferson Chambliss Hoke Roemer Cremeans LaTourette Smith (TX) Becerra Doyle Johnson (SD) Chenoweth Hostettler Rogers Cubin Laughlin Smith (WA) Beilenson Durbin Johnson, E. B. Christensen Houghton Rohrabacher Cunningham Leach Souder Bentsen Edwards Johnston Clinger Hunter Ros-Lehtinen Davis Lewis (CA) Spence Berman Engel Kanjorski Coble Hutchinson Roth de la Garza Lewis (KY) Stearns Bevill English Kaptur Coburn Hyde Roukema Deal Lightfoot Stenholm Bishop Eshoo Kennedy (MA) Collins (GA) Inglis Royce DeLay Lincoln Stockman Boehlert Evans Kennedy (RI) Combest Istook Salmon Diaz-Balart Linder Stump Bonior Farr Kennelly Cooley Johnson (CT) Sanford Dickey Lipinski Stupak Borski Fattah Kildee Cox Johnson, Sam Saxton Doolittle Livingston Talent Boucher Fazio King Crane Jones Scarborough Dornan LoBiondo Tanner Browder Fields (LA) Kleczka Crapo Kasich Schaefer Doyle Longley Tate Brown (CA) Filner Klink Cremeans Kelly Schiff Dreier Lucas Tauzin Brown (FL) Flake LaFalce Cubin Kim Seastrand Duncan Manton Taylor (MS) Brown (OH) Foglietta Lantos Cunningham Kingston Sensenbrenner Dunn Manzullo Taylor (NC) Bryant (TX) Ford Lazio Davis Klug Shadegg Ehlers Martini Tejeda Cardin Frank (MA) Levin de la Garza Knollenberg Shaw Ehrlich Mascara Thomas Chapman Frost Lewis (GA) Deal Kolbe Shays Emerson McCollum Thornberry Clay Furse Lincoln DeLay LaHood Shuster English McCrery Thornton Clayton Gejdenson Lipinski Dickey Largent Skeen Ensign McDade Tiahrt Clement Gephardt Lofgren Dooley Latham Smith (MI) Everett McHugh Torkildsen Clyburn Gibbons Lowey Doolittle LaTourette Smith (TX) Ewing McInnis Upton Coleman Gilman Luther Dornan Laughlin Smith (WA) Fawell McIntosh Volkmer Collins (IL) Gonzalez Maloney Dreier Leach Souder Fields (TX) McKeon Vucanovich Collins (MI) Gordon Manton Duncan Lewis (CA) Spence Flanagan McNulty Waldholtz Condit Green Markey Dunn Lewis (KY) Stearns Foley Metcalf Walker Conyers Gutierrez Martinez Ehlers Lightfoot Stenholm Forbes Meyers Walsh Costello Hall (OH) Mascara Ehrlich Linder Stockman Fowler Mica Wamp Coyne Hamilton Matsui Emerson Livingston Stump Fox Miller (FL) Watts (OK) Cramer Harman McCarthy Ensign LoBiondo Talent Franks (CT) Molinari Weldon (FL) Danner Hastings (FL) McDade Everett Longley Tanner Franks (NJ) Mollohan Weldon (PA) DeFazio Hefner McDermott Ewing Lucas Tate Frelinghuysen Montgomery Weller DeLauro Hilliard McHale Fawell Manzullo Tauzin Frisa Moorhead White Dellums Hinchey McHugh Fields (TX) Martini Taylor (MS) Funderburk Morella Whitfield Deutsch Holden McKinney Flanagan McCollum Taylor (NC) H 8264 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 Tejeda Walker Wicker Hefley McHugh Saxton b 2210 Thomas Wamp Wolf Hefner McInnis Scarborough Thornberry Watts (OK) Young (FL) Heineman McIntosh Schaefer Mr. OLVER changed his vote from Tiahrt Weldon (FL) Zeliff Herger McKeon Schiff ‘‘no’’ to ‘‘aye.’’ Upton Weller Zimmer Hilleary McKinney Schroeder So the amendment was agreed to. Vucanovich White Hobson McNulty Schumer Waldholtz Whitfield Hoekstra Meehan Scott The result of the vote was announced Hoke Menendez Seastrand as above recorded. NOT VOTING—8 Holden Metcalf Sensenbrenner AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. LIVINGSTON AS A Andrews Moakley Thurman Horn Meyers Shadegg SUBSTITUTE FOR THE AMENDMENT OFFERED Bateman Reynolds Young (AK) Hostettler Mfume Shaw Chrysler Solomon Houghton Mica Shays BY MR. GREENWOOD Hoyer Miller (CA) Shuster The CHAIRMAN. The pending busi- b 2203 Hunter Miller (FL) Sisisky ness is the demand for a recorded vote Hutchinson Mineta Skaggs Hyde Minge on the amendment offered by the gen- So the amendments en bloc were re- Skeen Inglis Molinari jected. Skelton tleman from Louisiana [Mr. LIVING- Istook Montgomery Slaughter STON] as a substitute for the amend- The result of the vote was announced Jackson-Lee Moorhead Smith (MI) as above recorded. Jacobs Moran ment offered by the gentleman from Smith (NJ) Jefferson Morella Pennsylvania [Mr. GREENWOOD], on AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. CRAPO Smith (TX) Johnson (CT) Murtha which further proceedings were post- The CHAIRMAN. The pending busi- Johnson (SD) Myrick Smith (WA) Johnson, E. B. Neal Solomon poned and which the noes prevailed by ness is the demand for a recorded vote Souder on the amendment offered by the gen- Johnson, Sam Nethercutt a voice vote. Johnston Neumann Spence The Clerk will redesignate the tleman from Idaho [Mr. CRAPO], on Spratt Jones Ney amendment. which further proceedings were post- Kanjorski Norwood Stearns poned and on which the ayes prevailed Kaptur Nussle Stenholm The Clerk redesignated the amend- Kasich Oberstar Stockman ment. by voice vote. Kelly Obey Stokes RECORDED VOTE The Clerk will redesignate this Kennedy (MA) Olver Stump amendment. Kennedy (RI) Ortiz Stupak The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has Kennelly Orton Talent been demanded. The Clerk redesignated the amend- Kildee Oxley Tanner ment. Kim Packard Tate A recorded vote was ordered. The vote was taken by electronic de- RECORDED VOTE King Pallone Tauzin Kingston Parker Taylor (MS) vice, and there were—ayes 207, noes 221, The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has Kleczka Pastor Taylor (NC) not voting 7, as follows: been demanded. Klink Paxon Tejeda A recorded vote was ordered. Klug Payne (VA) Thomas [Roll No. 614] Kolbe Pelosi Thompson AYES—207 The vote was taken by electronic de- LaFalce Peterson (FL) Thornberry Allard Ensign LoBiondo vice, and there were—ayes 373, noes 52, LaHood Peterson (MN) Thornton Archer Everett Lucas Lantos Petri Tiahrt not voting 9, as follows: Armey Ewing Manton Largent Pickett Torkildsen [Roll No. 613] Bachus Fields (TX) Manzullo Latham Pombo Torricelli LaTourette Pomeroy Baker (CA) Flanagan Mascara AYES—373 Traficant Baker (LA) Forbes McCollum Laughlin Porter Tucker Ackerman Christensen Fattah Lazio Portman Ballenger Fox McCrery Allard Clement Fawell Upton Barcia Frisa McDade Leach Poshard Visclosky Archer Clinger Fields (LA) Levin Pryce Barr Funderburk McHugh Volkmer Armey Clyburn Fields (TX) Lewis (KY) Quillen Barrett (NE) Gallegly McIntosh Waldholtz Bachus Coble Filner Lightfoot Quinn Bartlett Gillmor McKeon Walker Baesler Coburn Flake Lincoln Radanovich Barton Gingrich Metcalf Walsh Baker (LA) Coleman Flanagan Linder Ramstad Bevill Goodlatte Mica Wamp Baldacci Collins (GA) Foley Lipinski Rangel Bilirakis Goodling Miller (FL) Ballenger Combest Forbes LoBiondo Reed Ward Bliley Goss Mollohan Barcia Condit Ford Lofgren Regula Watt (NC) Boehner Graham Montgomery Barr Cooley Fowler Longley Richardson Watts (OK) Bonilla Gutknecht Moorhead Barrett (WI) Costello Fox Lowey Riggs Weldon (FL) Bono Hall (OH) Murtha Bartlett Cox Frank (MA) Lucas Rivers Weldon (PA) Brewster Hall (TX) Myers Barton Cramer Franks (CT) Luther Roberts Weller Brownback Hancock Myrick Bass Crane Franks (NJ) Maloney Roemer White Bryant (TN) Hansen Nethercutt Becerra Crapo Frelinghuysen Manton Rohrabacher Whitfield Bunn Hastert Neumann Bentsen Cremeans Frisa Manzullo Ros-Lehtinen Wicker Bunning Hastings (WA) Ney Bereuter Cubin Frost Markey Rose Wilson Burr Hayes Norwood Bevill Cunningham Funderburk Martini Roth Wise Burton Hayworth Nussle Bilbray Danner Furse Mascara Roukema Wolf Buyer Hefley Oberstar Bilirakis Davis Gallegly Matsui Royce Wyden Callahan Heineman Ortiz Bishop de la Garza Ganske McCarthy Salmon Wynn Calvert Herger Orton Blute Deal Gejdenson McCollum Sanders Young (FL) Camp Hilleary Oxley Boehlert DeFazio Gekas McCrery Sanford Zeliff Canady Hoekstra Packard Boehner DeLauro Gephardt McHale Sawyer Zimmer Chabot Hoke Parker Bonilla DeLay Geren Chambliss Holden Paxon Bono Deutsch Gibbons NOES—52 Chenoweth Hostettler Peterson (MN) Borski Diaz-Balart Gilchrest Christensen Hunter Petri Boucher Dickey Gillmor Abercrombie Hilliard Roybal-Allard Coble Hutchinson Pombo Brewster Dicks Gilman Baker (CA) Hinchey Rush Coburn Hyde Portman Browder Dingell Gonzalez Beilenson Knollenberg Sabo Collins (GA) Inglis Poshard Brown (CA) Doggett Goodlatte Berman Lewis (CA) Serrano Combest Istook Quillen Brown (OH) Dooley Goodling Bonior Lewis (GA) Stark Cooley Johnson, Sam Quinn Brownback Doolittle Gordon Brown (FL) Livingston Studds Costello Jones Radanovich Bryant (TN) Dornan Goss Clay Martinez Torres Cox Kasich Rahall Bryant (TX) Doyle Graham Clayton McDade Towns Crane Kildee Roberts Collins (IL) McDermott Bunn Dreier Green Velazquez Crapo Kim Rogers Collins (MI) Meek Bunning Duncan Greenwood Vento Cremeans King Rohrabacher Conyers Mink Burr Dunn Gunderson Vucanovich Cubin Kingston Ros-Lehtinen Coyne Mollohan Burton Durbin Gutierrez Waters Cunningham Knollenberg Roth Buyer Edwards Gutknecht Dellums Myers Deal LaFalce Royce Dixon Nadler Waxman Callahan Ehlers Hall (OH) Williams DeLay LaHood Salmon Calvert Ehrlich Hall (TX) Evans Owens Diaz-Balart Largent Sanford Woolsey Camp Emerson Hamilton Fazio Payne (NJ) Dickey Latham Saxton Yates Canady Engel Hancock Foglietta Rahall Doolittle LaTourette Scarborough Cardin English Hansen Hastings (FL) Rogers Dornan Laughlin Schaefer Castle Ensign Harman Dreier Lewis (KY) Seastrand Chabot Eshoo Hastert NOT VOTING—9 Duncan Lightfoot Sensenbrenner Chambliss Everett Hastings (WA) Andrews Bliley Reynolds Ehlers Linder Shadegg Chapman Ewing Hayes Barrett (NE) Chrysler Thurman Emerson Lipinski Shuster Chenoweth Farr Hayworth Bateman Moakley Young (AK) English Livingston Skeen August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8265 Skelton Stupak Waldholtz The result of the vote was announced Wise Wyden Zeliff Smith (MI) Talent Walker Woolsey Wynn Zimmer Smith (NJ) Tate Walsh as above recorded. Smith (TX) Tauzin Wamp The CHAIRMAN. The question is on NOES—204 Smith (WA) Taylor (MS) Watts (OK) the amendment offered by the gen- Allard Goodlatte Nussle Solomon Taylor (NC) Weldon (FL) tleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. GREEN- Archer Goss Ortiz Souder Tejeda Weldon (PA) Armey Graham Orton Spence Thornberry Weller WOOD]. Bachus Gutknecht Oxley Stearns Tiahrt Whitfield The question was taken; and the Baker (CA) Hall (OH) Packard Stenholm Tucker Wicker Chairman announced that the noes ap- Baker (LA) Hall (TX) Parker Stockman Volkmer Wolf peared to have it. Ballenger Hancock Paxon Stump Vucanovich Young (FL) Barcia Hansen Peterson (MN) RECORDED VOTE Barr Hastert Petri NOES—221 The CHAIRMAN. A recorded vote has Barrett (NE) Hastings (WA) Pombo Abercrombie Furse Moran been demanded. Bartlett Hayes Portman Ackerman Ganske Morella Barton Hayworth Poshard Baesler Gejdenson Nadler A recorded vote was ordered. Becerra Hefley Quillen Baldacci Gekas Neal The CHAIRMAN. This will be a 5- Bevill Heineman Quinn Barrett (WI) Gephardt Obey minute vote. Bilirakis Herger Radanovich Bass Geren Olver Bliley Hilleary Rahall Becerra Gibbons Owens The vote was taken by electronic de- Boehner Hoekstra Roberts Beilenson Gilchrest Pallone vice, and there were—ayes 224, noes 204, Bonilla Hoke Rogers Bentsen Gilman Pastor not voting 7, as follows: Bono Holden Rohrabacher Bereuter Gonzalez Brewster Hostettler Ros-Lehtinen Payne (NJ) [Roll No. 615] Berman Gordon Payne (VA) Brownback Hunter Roth Bilbray Green Pelosi AYES—224 Bryant (TN) Hutchinson Royce Bishop Greenwood Bunn Hyde Salmon Peterson (FL) Abercrombie Frelinghuysen Mineta Blute Gunderson Bunning Inglis Sanford Pickett Ackerman Frost Minge Boehlert Gutierrez Burr Istook Saxton Pomeroy Baesler Furse Mink Bonior Hamilton Burton Johnson, Sam Scarborough Porter Baldacci Ganske Borski Harman Molinari Buyer Jones Schaefer Pryce Barrett (WI) Gejdenson Boucher Hastings (FL) Moran Callahan Kasich Seastrand Ramstad Bass Gekas Browder Hefner Morella Calvert Kildee Sensenbrenner Rangel Beilenson Gephardt Brown (CA) Hilliard Nadler Camp Kim Shadegg Reed Bentsen Geren Brown (FL) Hinchey Neal Canady King Shuster Regula Bereuter Gibbons Brown (OH) Hobson Oberstar Chabot Kingston Skeen Richardson Berman Gilchrest Bryant (TX) Horn Obey Chambliss Knollenberg Skelton Riggs Bilbray Gilman Cardin Houghton Olver Chenoweth LaFalce Smith (MI) Rivers Bishop Gonzalez Castle Hoyer Owens Christensen LaHood Smith (NJ) Roemer Blute Goodling Chapman Jackson-Lee Pallone Coble Largent Smith (TX) Rose Boehlert Gordon Clay Jacobs Pastor Coburn Latham Smith (WA) Roukema Bonior Green Clayton Jefferson Payne (NJ) Collins (GA) LaTourette Solomon Roybal-Allard Borski Greenwood Clement Johnson (CT) Payne (VA) Combest Laughlin Souder Rush Boucher Gunderson Clinger Johnson (SD) Pelosi Cooley Lewis (KY) Spence Sabo Browder Gutierrez Clyburn Johnson, E. B. Peterson (FL) Costello Lightfoot Stearns Sanders Brown (CA) Hamilton Coleman Johnston Pickett Cox Linder Stenholm Sawyer Brown (FL) Harman Collins (IL) Kanjorski Pomeroy Crane Lipinski Stockman Schiff Brown (OH) Hastings (FL) Collins (MI) Kaptur Porter Crapo Livingston Stump Schroeder Bryant (TX) Hefner Condit Kelly Pryce Cremeans LoBiondo Stupak Schumer Cardin Hilliard Conyers Kennedy (MA) Ramstad Cubin Lucas Talent Scott Castle Hinchey Coyne Kennedy (RI) Rangel Cunningham Manton Tate Serrano Chapman Hobson Cramer Kennelly Reed Deal Manzullo Tauzin Shaw Clay Horn Danner Kleczka Regula DeLay Mascara Taylor (MS) Shays Clayton Houghton Davis Klink Richardson Diaz-Balart McCollum Taylor (NC) Sisisky Clement Hoyer de la Garza Klug Riggs Dickey McCrery Tejeda Skaggs Clinger Jackson-Lee DeFazio Kolbe Rivers Doolittle McDade Thornberry Clyburn Jacobs DeLauro Lantos Slaughter Roemer Dornan McHugh Tiahrt Coleman Jefferson Dellums Lazio Spratt Rose Dreier McIntosh Tucker Collins (IL) Johnson (CT) Deutsch Leach Stark Roukema Duncan McKeon Volkmer Collins (MI) Johnson (SD) Dicks Levin Stokes Roybal-Allard Emerson Metcalf Vucanovich Condit Johnson, E.B. Dingell Lewis (CA) Studds Rush English Mica Waldholtz Conyers Johnston Dixon Lewis (GA) Tanner Sabo Ensign Miller (FL) Walker Coyne Kanjorski Doggett Lincoln Thomas Sanders Everett Mollohan Walsh Cramer Kaptur Dooley Lofgren Thompson Sawyer Ewing Montgomery Wamp Danner Kelly Doyle Longley Thornton Schiff Fields (TX) Moorhead Watts (OK) Davis Kennedy (MA) Dunn Lowey Torkildsen Schroeder Flanagan Murtha Weldon (FL) de la Garza Kennedy (RI) Durbin Luther Torres Schumer Forbes Myers Weller DeFazio Kennelly Edwards Maloney Torricelli Scott Frisa Myrick Whitfield DeLauro Kleczka Ehrlich Markey Towns Funderburk Nethercutt Wicker Dellums Klink Serrano Engel Martinez Traficant Gallegly Neumann Wolf Deutsch Klug Shaw Eshoo Martini Upton Gillmor Ney Yates Dicks Kolbe Shays Evans Matsui Velazquez Gingrich Norwood Young (FL) Dingell Lantos Sisisky Farr McCarthy Vento Dixon Lazio Skaggs Fattah McDermott Visclosky NOT VOTING—7 Doggett Leach Slaughter Fawell McHale Ward Andrews Moakley Young (AK) Dooley Levin Spratt Fazio McInnis Waters Bateman Reynolds Doyle Lewis (CA) Stark Fields (LA) McKinney Watt (NC) Chrysler Thurman Dunn Lewis (GA) Stokes Filner McNulty Waxman Durbin Lincoln Studds Flake Meehan White b 2224 Edwards Lofgren Tanner Foglietta Meek Williams Ehlers Longley Thomas Foley Menendez Wilson So the amendment was agreed to. Ehrlich Lowey Thompson Ford Meyers Wise The result of the vote was announced Engel Luther Thornton Fowler Mfume Woolsey Eshoo Maloney Torkildsen as above recorded. Frank (MA) Miller (CA) Wyden Evans Markey Torres The CHAIRMAN. Are there addi- Franks (CT) Mineta Wynn Farr Martinez Torricelli Franks (NJ) Minge Yates tional amendments to title I? Fattah Martini Towns Frelinghuysen Mink Zeliff If not, the Clerk will designate title Fawell Matsui Traficant Frost Molinari Zimmer Fazio McCarthy Upton II. NOT VOTING—7 Fields (LA) McDermott Velazquez The text of title II is as follows: Filner McHale Vento Andrews Moakley Young (AK) TITLE II—DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND Flake McInnis Visclosky HUMAN SERVICES Bateman Reynolds Foglietta McKinney Ward Chrysler Thurman Foley McNulty Waters HEALTH RESOURCES AND SERVICES Ford Meehan Watt (NC) ADMINISTRATION b 2217 Fowler Meek Waxman HEALTH RESOURCES AND SERVICES So the amendment offered as a sub- Fox Menendez Weldon (PA) Frank (MA) Meyers White For carrying out titles II, III, VII, VIII, stitute for the amendment was re- Franks (CT) Mfume Williams XIX, and XXVI of the Public Health Service jected. Franks (NJ) Miller (CA) Wilson Act, title V of the Social Security Act, and H 8266 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 the Health Care Quality Improvement Act of which $4,353,000 shall remain available until to deafness and other communication dis- 1986, as amended, $2,927,122,000, of which expended for equipment and construction orders, $176,502,000. $411,000 shall remain available until ex- and renovation of facilities, and in addition, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF NURSING RESEARCH pended for interest subsidies on loan guaran- such sums as may be derived from authorized For carrying out section 301 and title IV of tees made prior to fiscal year 1981 under part user fees, which shall be credited to this ac- the Public Health Service Act with respect B of title VII of the Public Health Service count: Provided, That in addition to amounts to nursing research, $55,831,000. Act: Provided, That the Division of Federal provided herein, up to $27,862,000 shall be Occupational Health may utilize personal available from amounts available under sec- NATIONAL INSTITUTE ON ALCOHOL ABUSE AND services contracting to employ professional tion 241 of the Public Health Service Act, to ALCOHOLISM management/administrative, and occupa- carry out the National Center for Health For carrying out section 301 and title IV of tional health professionals: Provided further, Statistics surveys. the Public Health Service Act with respect That of the funds made available under this In addition, $39,100,000, to be derived from to alcohol abuse and alcoholism, $198,607,000. heading, $933,000 shall be available until ex- the Violent Crime Reduction Trust Fund, for NATIONAL INSTITUTE ON DRUG ABUSE pended for facilities renovations at the Gillis carrying out sections 40151, 40261, and 40293 of For carrying out section 301 and title IV of W. Long Hansen’s Disease Center: Provided Public Law 103–322. the Public Health Service Act with respect further, That in addition to fees authorized NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH to drug abuse, $458,441,000. by section 427(b) of the Health Care Quality NATIONAL CANCER INSTITUTE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MENTAL HEALTH Improvement Act of 1986, fees shall be col- For carrying out section 301 and title IV of For carrying out section 301 and title IV of lected for the full disclosure of information the Public Health Service Act with respect the Public Health Service Act with respect under the Act sufficient to recover the full to cancer, $2,251,084,000. to mental health, $661,328,000. costs of operating the National Practitioner NATIONAL HEART, LUNG, AND BLOOD INSTITUTE Data Bank, and shall remain available until NATIONAL CENTER FOR RESEARCH RESOURCES expended to carry out that Act. For carrying out section 301 and title IV of For carrying out section 301 and title IV of the Public Health Service Act with respect the Public Health Service Act with respect MEDICAL FACILITIES GUARANTEE AND LOAN to cardiovascular, lung, and blood diseases, to research resources and general research FUND and blood and blood products, $1,355,866,000. support grants, $390,339,000: Provided, That FEDERAL INTEREST SUBSIDIES FOR MEDICAL NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF DENTAL RESEARCH none of these funds shall be used to pay re- FACILITIES For carrying out section 301 and title IV of cipients of the general research support For carrying out subsections (d) and (e) of the Public Health Service Act with respect grants program any amount for indirect ex- section 1602 of the Public Health Service Act, to dental disease, $183,196,000. penses in connection with such grants. $8,000,000, together with any amounts re- NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF DIABETES AND NATIONAL CENTER FOR HUMAN GENOME ceived by the Secretary in connection with RESEARCH loans and loan guarantees under title VI of DIGESTIVE AND KIDNEY DISEASES For carrying out section 301 and title IV of the Public Health Service Act, to be avail- For carrying out section 301 and title IV of the Public Health Service Act with respect able without fiscal year limitation for the the Public Health Service Act with respect to human genome research, $170,041,000. payment of interest subsidies. During the fis- to diabetes and digestive and kidney dis- cal year, no commitments for direct loans or eases, $771,252,000. JOHN E. FOGARTY INTERNATIONAL CENTER loan guarantees shall be made. NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF NEUROLOGICAL For carrying out the activities at the John HEALTH EDUCATION ASSISTANCE LOANS DISORDERS AND STROKE E. Fogarty International Center, $25,313,000. PROGRAM For carrying out section 301 and title IV of NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE For the cost of guaranteed loans, such the Public Health Service Act with respect For carrying out section 301 and title IV of sums as may be necessary to carry out the to neurological disorders and stroke, the Public Health Service Act with respect purpose of the program, as authorized by $681,534,000. to health information communications, title VII of the Public Health Service Act, as NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND $141,439,000, of which $4,000,000 shall be avail- amended: Provided, That such costs, includ- INFECTIOUS DISEASES able until expended for improvement of in- ing the cost of modifying such loans, shall be For carrying out section 301 and title IV of formation systems: Provided, That in fiscal as defined in section 502 of the Congressional the Public Health Service Act with respect year 1996, the Library may enter into per- Budget Act of 1974: Provided further, That to allergy and infectious diseases, sonal services contracts for the provision of these funds are available to subsidize gross $1,169,628,000. services in facilities owned, operated, or con- obligations for the total loan principal any NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF GENERAL MEDICAL structed under the jurisdiction of the Na- part of which is to be guaranteed at not to SCIENCES tional Institutes of Health. exceed $210,000,000. In addition, for adminis- For carrying out section 301 and title IV of OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR trative expenses to carry out the guaranteed the Public Health Service Act with respect (INCLUDING TRANSFER OF FUNDS) loan program, $2,703,000. to general medical sciences, $946,971,000. For carrying out the responsibilities of the VACCINE INJURY COMPENSATION PROGRAM NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF CHILD HEALTH AND Office of the Director, National Institutes of TRUST FUND HUMAN DEVELOPMENT Health, $261,488,000: Provided, That funding For payments from the Vaccine Injury For carrying out section 301 and title IV of shall be available for the purchase of not to Compensation Program Trust Fund, such the Public Health Service Act with respect exceed five passenger motor vehicles for re- sums as may be necessary for claims associ- to child health and human development, placement only: Provided further, That the ated with vaccine-related injury or death $595,162,000. Director may direct up to 1 percent of the with respect to vaccines administered after total amount made available in this Act to NATIONAL EYE INSTITUTE September 30, 1988, pursuant to subtitle 2 of all National Institutes of Health appropria- title XXI of the Public Health Service Act, For carrying out section 301 and title IV of tions to activities the Director may so des- to remain available until expended: Provided, the Public Health Service Act with respect ignate: Provided further, That no such appro- That for necessary administrative expenses, to eye diseases and visual disorders, priation shall be increased or decreased by not to exceed $3,000,000 shall be available $314,185,000. more than 1 percent by any such transfers from the Trust Fund to the Secretary of NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ENVIRONMENTAL and that the Congress is promptly notified of Health and Human Services. HEALTH SCIENCES the transfer. VACCINE INJURY COMPENSATION For carrying out sections 301 and 311 and BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES For payment of claims resolved by the title IV of the Public Health Service Act For the study of, construction of, and ac- United States Court of Federal Claims relat- with respect to environmental health quisition of equipment for, facilities of or ed to the administration of vaccines before sciences, $288,898,000. used by the National Institutes of Health, in- October 1, 1988, $110,000,000, to remain avail- NATIONAL INSTITUTE ON AGING cluding the acquisition of real property, able until expended. For carrying out section 301 and title IV of $146,151,000, to remain available until ex- CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND the Public Health Service Act with respect pended. PREVENTION to aging, $453,917,000. SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH DISEASE CONTROL, RESEARCH, AND TRAINING NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ARTHRITIS AND SERVICES ADMINISTRATION To carry out titles II, III, VII, XI, XV, MUSCULOSKELETAL AND SKIN DISEASES SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH XVII, and XIX of the Public Health Service For carrying out section 301 and title IV of SERVICES Act, sections 101, 102, 103, 201, 202, and 203 of the Public Health Service Act with respect For carrying out titles V and XIX of the the Federal Mine Safety and Health Act of to arthritis, and musculoskeletal and skin Public Health Service Act with respect to 1977, and sections 20 and 22 of the Occupa- diseases, $241,828,000. substance abuse and mental health services, tional Safety and Health Act of 1970; includ- NATIONAL INSTITUTE ON DEAFNESS AND OTHER the Protection and Advocacy for Mentally Ill ing insurance of official motor vehicles in COMMUNICATION DISORDERS Individuals Act of 1986, and section 301 of the foreign countries; and hire, maintenance, For carrying out section 301 and title IV of Public Health Service Act with respect to and operation of aircraft, $2,085,831,000, of the Public Health Service Act with respect program management, $1,788,946,000. August 2, 1995 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H 8267

RETIREMENT PAY AND MEDICAL BENEFITS FOR established under title XIII of the Public grams Act of 1974, title II of Public Law 95– COMMISSIONED OFFICERS Health Service Act are to be credited to this 266 (adoption opportunities), the Temporary For retirement pay and medical benefits of appropriation. Child Care for Children with Disabilities and Public Health Service Commissioned Officers HEALTH MAINTENANCE ORGANIZATION LOAN AND Crisis Nurseries Act of 1986, the Abandoned as authorized by law, and for payments LOAN GUARANTEE FUND Infants Assistance Act of 1988, and part B(1) of title IV of the Social Security Act; for under the Retired Serviceman’s Family Pro- For carrying out subsections (d) and (e) of making payments under the Community tection Plan and Survivor Benefit Plan and section 1308 of the Public Health Service Act, Services Block Grant Act; and for necessary for medical care of dependents and retired any amounts received by the Secretary in administrative expenses to carry out said personnel under the Dependents’ Medical connection with loans and loan guarantees Acts and titles I, IV, X, XI, XIV, XVI, and Care Act (10 U.S.C. ch. 55), and for payments under title XIII of the Public Health Service XX of the Social Security Act, the Act of pursuant to section 229(b) of the Social Secu- Act, to be available without fiscal year limi- July 5, 1960 (24 U.S.C. ch. 9), the Omnibus rity Act (42 U.S.C. 429(b)), such amounts as tation for the payment of outstanding obli- Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981, title IV of may be required during the current fiscal gations. During fiscal year 1996, no commit- the Immigration and Nationality Act, sec- year. ments for direct loans or loan guarantees tion 501 of the Refugee Education Assistance AGENCY FOR HEALTH CARE POLICY AND shall be made. Act of 1980, and section 126 and titles IV and RESEARCH ADMINISTRATION FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES V of Public Law 100–485, $4,543,343,000. HEALTH CARE POLICY AND RESEARCH FAMILY SUPPORT PAYMENTS TO STATES In addition, $800,000, to be derived from the For carrying out titles III and IX of the For making payments to States or other Violent Crime Reduction Trust Fund, for Public Health Service Act, and part A of non-Federal entities, except as otherwise carrying out sections 40211 and 40251 of Pub- title XI of the Social Security Act, provided, under titles I, IV–A (other than lic Law 103–322. $85,423,000, together with not to exceed section 402(g)(6)) and D, X, XI, XIV, and XVI FAMILY PRESERVATION AND SUPPORT $5,796,000 to be transferred from the Federal of the Social Security Act, and the Act of Hospital Insurance and the Federal Supple- For carrying out section 430 of the Social July 5, 1960 (24 U.S.C. ch. 9), $13,614,307,000, to Security Act, $225,000,000. mentary Medical Insurance Trust Funds, as remain available until expended. authorized by sections 1142 and 201(g) of the For making, after May 31 of the current PAYMENTS TO STATES FOR FOSTER CARE AND Social Security Act; in addition, amounts re- fiscal year, payments to States or other non- ADOPTION ASSISTANCE ceived from Freedom of Information Act Federal entities under titles I, IV–A and D, For making payments to States or other fees, reimbursable and interagency agree- X, XI, XIV, and XVI of the Social Security non-Federal entities, under title IV–E of the ments, and the sale of data tapes shall be Act, for the last three months of the current Social Security Act, $4,307,842,000. credited to this appropriation and shall re- year for unanticipated costs, incurred for the ADMINISTRATION ON AGING main available until expended: Provided, current fiscal year, such sums as may be nec- AGING SERVICES PROGRAMS That the amount made available pursuant to essary. For carrying out, to the extent not other- section 926(b) of the Public Health Service For making payments to States or other wise provided, the Older Americans Act of Act shall not exceed $34,284,000. non-Federal entities under titles I, IV–A 1965, as amended, $778,246,000. HEALTH CARE FINANCING ADMINISTRATION (other than section 402(g)(6)) and D, X, XI, OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY GRANTS TO STATES FOR MEDICAID XIV, and XVI of the Social Security Act and For carrying out, except as otherwise pro- the Act of July 5, 1960 (24 U.S.C. ch. 9) for the GENERAL DEPARTMENTAL MANAGEMENT vided, titles XI and XIX of the Social Secu- first quarter of fiscal year 1997, $4,800,000,000, For necessary expenses, not otherwise pro- rity Act, $55,094,355,000, to remain available to remain available until expended. vided, for general departmental manage- until expended. JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND BASIC SKILLS ment, including hire of six medium sedans, For making, after May 31, 1996, payments For carrying out aid to families with de- and for carrying out titles III and XX of the to States under title XIX of the Social Secu- pendent children work programs, as author- Public Health Service Act, $116,826,000, to- rity Act for the last quarter of fiscal year ized by part F of title IV of the Social Secu- gether with $6,813,000, to be transferred and 1996 for unanticipated costs, incurred for the rity Act, $1,000,000,000. expended as authorized by section 201(g)(1) of current fiscal year, such sums as may be nec- the Social Security Act from the Hospital LOW INCOME HOME ENERGY ASSISTANCE essary. Insurance Trust Fund and the Supplemental For making payments to States under title (RESCISSION) Medical Insurance Trust Fund. XIX of the Social Security Act for the first Of the funds made available beginning on OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL October 1, 1995 under this heading in Public quarter of fiscal year 1997, $26,155,350,000, to For expenses necessary for the Office of In- Law 103–333, $1,000,000,000 are hereby re- remain available until expended. spector General in carrying out the provi- Payment under title XIX may be made for scinded. sions of the Inspector General Act of 1978, as any quarter with respect to a State plan or REFUGEE AND ENTRANT ASSISTANCE amended, $56,333,000, together with not to ex- plan amendment in effect during such quar- For making payments for refugee and en- ceed $17,623,000, to be transferred and ex- ter, if submitted in or prior to such quarter trant assistance activities authorized by pended as authorized by section 201(g)(1) of and approved in that or any subsequent quar- title IV of the Immigration and Nationality the Social Security Act from the Hospital ter. Act and section 501 of the Refugee Education Insurance Trust Fund and the Supplemental PAYMENTS TO HEALTH CARE TRUST FUNDS Assistance Act of 1980 (Public Law 96–422), Medical Insurance Trust Fund. For payment to the Federal Hospital In- $411,781,000: Provided, That funds appro- OFFICE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS surance and the Federal Supplementary priated pursuant to section 414(a) of the Im- For expenses necessary for the Office for Medical Insurance Trust Funds, as provided migration and Nationality Act under Public Civil Rights, $10,249,000, together with not to under sections 217(g) and 1844 of the Social Law 103–112 for fiscal year 1994 shall be avail- exceed $3,251,000, to be transferred and ex- Security Act, sections 103(c) and 111(d) of the able for the costs of assistance provided and pended as authorized by section 201(g)(1) of Social Security Amendments of 1965, section other activities conducted in such year and the Social Security Act from the Hospital 278(d) of Public Law 97–248, and for adminis- in fiscal years 1995 and 1996. Insurance Trust Fund and the Supplemental trative expenses incurred pursuant to sec- CHILD CARE AND DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT Medical Insurance Trust Fund. tion 201(g) of the Social Security Act, For carrying out sections 658A through $63,313,000,000. POLICY RESEARCH 658R of the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation For carrying out, to the extent not other- PROGRAM MANAGEMENT Act of 1981 (The Child Care and Development wise provided, research studies under section For carrying out, except as otherwise pro- Block Grant Act of 1990), $934,642,000, which 1110 of the Social Security Act, $9,000,000. vided, titles XI, XVIII, and XIX of the Social shall be available for obligation under the Security Act, and title XIII of the Public same statutory terms and conditions appli- GENERAL PROVISIONS Health Service Act, the Clinical Laboratory cable in the prior fiscal year. SEC. 201. Funds appropriated in this title Improvement Amendments of 1988, and sec- SOCIAL SERVICES BLOCK GRANT shall be available for not to exceed $37,000 for tion 4005(e) of Public Law 100–203, not to ex- official reception and representation ex- For making grants to States pursuant to ceed $2,136,824,000, together with all funds penses when specifically approved by the section 2002 of the Social Security Act, collected in accordance with section 353 of Secretary. $2,800,000,000. the Public Health Service Act, the latter SEC. 202. The Secretary shall make avail- funds to remain available until expended; CHILDREN AND FAMILIES SERVICES PROGRAMS able through assignment not more than 60 the $2,136,824,000, to be transferred to this ap- For carrying out, except as otherwise pro- employees of the Public Health Service to propriation as authorized by section 201(g) of vided, the Runaway and Homeless Youth assist in child survival activities and to the Social Security Act, from the Federal Act, the Developmental Disabilities Assist- work in AIDS programs through and with Hospital Insurance and the Federal Supple- ance and Bill of Rights Act, the Head Start funds provided by the Agency for Inter- mentary Medical Insurance Trust Funds: Act, the Child Abuse Prevention and Treat- national Development, the United Nations Provided, That all funds derived in accord- ment Act, the Family Violence Prevention International Children’s Emergency Fund or ance with 31 U.S.C. 9701 from organizations and Services Act, the Native American Pro- the World Health Organization. H 8268 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE August 2, 1995 SEC. 203. None of the funds appropriated The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there would conference a more substantive Middle under this Act may be used to implement objection to the request of the gen- East Peace Facilitation Act prior to the sum- section 399L(b) of the Public Health Service tleman from Illinois? mer recess. We have not. In fact, we have not Act or section 1503 of the National Institutes There was no objection. of Health Revitalization Act of 1993, Public yet even considered such a bill in committee. Law 103–43. f Difficult negotiations between Israel and the SEC. 204. None of the funds made available Palestinians continue and an interim agree- by this Act may be used to withhold pay- EXTENDING AUTHORITIES UNDER ment is possible soon. Terrorism also contin- ment to any State under the Child Abuse THE MIDDLE EAST PEACE FA- ues to raise its ugly head. The Palestinian au- Prevention and Treatment Act by reason of CILITATION ACT thority is moving to control violence but there a determination that the State is not in Mr. GILMAN. Mr. Speaker, I ask is always room for more effort. compliance with section 1340.2(d)(2)(ii) of unanimous consent to that the Com- Mr. Speaker, I withdraw my reserva- title 45 of the Code of Federal Regulations. This provision expires upon the date of en- mittee on International Relations be tion of objection. actment of the reauthorization of the Child discharged from further consideration The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. EM- Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act or of the bill (H.R. 2161) to extend authori- ERSON). Is there objection to the re- upon September 30, 1996, whichever occurs ties under the Middle East Peace Fa- quest of the gentleman from New first. cilitation Act of 1994 until October 1, York? SEC. 205. None of the funds appropriated in 1995, and for other purposes, and ask Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Speaker, reserving this title for the National Institutes of for its immediate consideration in the the right to object, I will not object, Health and the Substance Abuse and Mental House. but we are now extending it a second Health Services Administration shall be used The Clerk read the title of the bill. to pay the salary of an individual, through a time for another 45 days, and I guess grant or other extramural mechanism, at a The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there my feeling is a little bit different than rate in excess of $125,000 per year. objection to the request of the gen- my colleague from Indiana. I believe SEC. 206. Taps and other assessments made tleman from New York? that we cannot indefinitely have these by any office located in the Department of Mr. HAMILTON. Mr. Speaker, reserv- extensions without holding Mr. Ara- Health and Human Services shall be treated ing the right to object, I do not intend fat’s feet to the fire. I have submitted as a reprogramming of funds except that this to object, but I do want to state a con- a bill along with the gentleman from provision shall not apply to assessments re- tinuing concern I have about our ap- New Jersey [Mr. SAXTON], the gen- quired by authorizing legislation, or related proach to this legislation. to working capital funds or other fee-for- tleman from New York [Mr. SCHUMER], service activities. b 2230 and the gentleman from Texas [Mr. (TRANSFER OF FUNDS) DELAY], which clearly lays out reasons Mr. Speaker, the existing law of the and the threshold for Mr. Arafat and SEC. 207. Of the funds appropriated or oth- Middle East Peace Facilitation Act erwise made available for the Department of the PLO to comply with before there now expires August 15 of this year. On can be a continuation of funding for Health and Human Services, General Depart- June 29 we took up a bill extending the mental Management, for fiscal year 1996, the the PLO. law for 45 days. Now we are back doing Secretary of Health and Human Services I would like to ask the Chairman if the same thing again, extending the shall transfer to the Office of the Inspector he can give me assurances that our bill law only until October 1, 1995. General such sums as may be necessary for will be marked up at committee, be- Mr. Speaker, I would much prefer any expenses with respect to the provision of cause I think there are many, many security protection for the Secretary of that the House be taking up at least a different feelings and opinions on the Health and Human Services. 6-month extension at this time, and I committee, and I think we should have SEC. 208. None of the funds appropriated in regret that we are not. At this time es- the opportunity. I just want to say, I this Act may be obligated or expended for pecially, I think we should be sending a the Federal Council on Aging under the think it is especially critical because it signal of very strong support to the Older Americans Act or the Advisory Board seems pretty obvious to me that in the parties in the Middle East peace proc- on Child Abuse and Neglect under the Child Senate, the State Department author- ess. This short-term extension I think Abuse Prevention and Treatment Act. ization bill is dead. So I think it is has the opposite effect. It creates an SEC. 209. None of the funds appropriated in even more critical that we in the House this or any other Act may be obligated or ex- unstable environment and makes a come together and mark up my bill so pended for the position of Surgeon General of hard job for the Israelis and the Pal- that we can have a resolution of this the Public Health Service. estinians involved in the peace process issue, and I would like to just ask the This title may be cited as the ‘‘Department even more difficult. of Health and Human Services Appropria- Chairman if he would agree to mark up Mr. Speaker, having expressed that tions Act, 1996’’. the bill. concern, since this bill is the only op- Mr. PORTER. Mr. Chairman, I move tion before us right now. Mr. GILMAN. Mr. Speaker, will the that the committee do now rise. My concerns have only increased about gentleman yield? The motion was agreed to. using this kind of approach on a bill critical to Mr. ENGEL. Further reserving the Accordingly the Committee rose; and the Middle East peace process. If the act is al- right to object, Mr. Speaker, I yield to the Speaker pro tempore (Mr. EMER- lowed to expire, all funds for direct and multi- the gentleman from New York. SON) having assumed the chair, Mr. lateral assistance to the Palestinian authority Mr. GILMAN. Mr. Speaker, we cer- WALKER, Chairman of the Committee will be cut off. Representatives of the Palestin- tainly will take the gentleman’s of the Whole House on the State of the ian authority will not be able to maintain an of- thoughts into consideration and we Union, reported that that Committee, fice in the United States. Engaging in diplo- will be reviewing the request as we re- having had under consideration the bill matic activities relating to the peace process turn to committee following the recess. (H.R. 2127) making appropriations for here in Washington would be impossible. Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Speaker, I would the Departments of Labor, Health and In short, allowing this law to expire could se- like to just reiterate that I think it is Human Services, and Education, and riously jeopardize a fragile, but steadily pro- critical that we do have a markup of related agencies, for the fiscal year gressing, Middle East peace process. the bill, that we hold hearings and ending September 30, 1996, and for As I understand it, our reasons for extend- have a markup of the bill. With the other purposes, had come to no resolu- ing this act for only 45 days at a time are re- chairman’s assurances that he will tion thereon. lated neither to Palestinians nor to Israelis. In- take a look at this, and I hope with the f stead, this act is being used in the other body assurances that we will mark up the as some kind of bargaining chip in negotia- bill. GENERAL LEAVE tions on unrelated bills. I think this is a serious Mr. Speaker, I withdraw my reserva- Mr. PORTER. Mr. Speaker, I ask and potentially dangerous mistake. tion of objection. unanimous consent that all Members On June 29 on the House floor, I expressed The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection may have 5 legislative days in which to my hope that the next time we extended this to the request of the gentleman from revise and extend their remarks on the law, we would do so for a longer period of New York? bill, H.R. 2127, and that I may include time. Chairman GILMAN said we were taking There was no objection. tabular and extraneous material. up only a short term extension because we The Clerk read the bill, as follows: