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Daily Hansard 6 April 2021 DAILY YOUR VOICE IN PARLIAMENT THE SECONDSECOND MEETING MEETING OF THEOF SECONDTHE FIFTH SESSION SESSION OF THEOF THEELEVEN TWELFTHTH PARLIAMENT PARLIAMENT TUESDAY 6 APRIL 2021 MIXEDENGLISH VERSION VERSION HANSARDHANSARD NO. 193201 DISCLAIMER Unocial Hansard This transcript of Parliamentary proceedings is an unocial version of the Hansard and may contain inaccuracies. It is hereby published for general purposes only. The nal edited version of the Hansard will be published when available and can be obtained from the Assistant Clerk (Editorial). THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East) Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Acting Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms K. Kokoro Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of Opposition) Maun West Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. (Opposition Whip) Ghanzi South Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT TUESDAY 6TH APRIL, 2021 CONTENTS PAGE (S) Standing Committee on Remuneration (Members of the National Assembly, Councillors, Ntlo Ya Dikgosi and Specified Offices) Bill, 2021 (No. 4 of 2021) First Reading...........................................................................................................................................................1 Second Reading..................................................................................................................................................1-15 Second Reading (Resumed Debate).................................................................................................................26-51 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...............................................................................................................16-23 QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE.................................................................................................................24-25 TABLING OF PAPERS The Botswana Climate Change Policy, 2021...........................................................................................................1 Tourism Policy.........................................................................................................................................................1 National Energy Policy............................................................................................................................................1 Tuesday 6th April, 2021 STANDING COMMITTEE ON REMUNERATION (MEMBERS OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY, COUNCILLORS, NTLO YA DIKGOSI AND SPECIFIED OFFICES) BILL, 2021 (NO. 4 OF 2021) Second Reading Tuesday 6th April, 2021 MINISTER FOR PRESIDENTIAL AFFAIRS, GOVERNANCE AND PUBLIC THE ASSEMBLY met at 11:00 a.m. ADMINISTRATION (MR MORWAENG): Mr (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) Speaker, I have the honour to present to this Honourable House for Second Reading, the Standing Committee P R A Y E R S on Remuneration (Members of the National Assembly, Councillors, Ntlo ya Dikgosi and Specified Offices) * * * * Bill, 2021 (No. 4 of 2021). A Standing Committee on MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Order! May we Remuneration (Members of the National Assembly, start our business of this morning with the tabling of Councillors, Ntlo ya Dikgosi and Specified Offices) Bill papers. is intended to establish a Standing Committee to advise Government on remuneration and other conditions TABLING OF PAPERS of service for the political leadership and holders of specified positions in Government. The following papers were tabled: THE BOTSWANA CLIMATE CHANGE POLICY, Mr Speaker, there have been calls in the past, including by 2021 Members of this Honourable House on the need to have a body other than Parliament independently assessing (Minister of Environment, Natural Resources salaries and other conditions of service from Members Conservation and Tourism) of Parliament. The feeling generally is that the current practice, where Members of Parliament determine TOURISM POLICY their conditions of service, was viewed as creating (Minister of Environment, Natural Resources conflict of interest and therefore, undesirable. In 2007, Conservation and Tourism) a Presidential Commission (Dibotelo Commission) was setup to review the salaries, conditions of service and NATIONAL ENERGY POLICY other entitlements for the political leadership, Justices of the Court of Appeal and the High Court, Members (Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and of Ntlo ya Dikgosi and Councillors. The Commission Energy Security) recommended amongst others, that a Standing PRESENTATION OF A GOVERNMENT Committee be setup to periodically advise the President BILL on remuneration and conditions of service for the political leadership and Members of Ntlo ya Dikgosi. The following Bill was presented and read a first time. A similar recommendation was made in 2004 by the … (inaudible)… Task Force which was also commissioned STANDING COMMITTEE ON REMUNERATION by the President. (MEMBERS OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY, COUNCILLORS, NTLO YA DIKGOSI AND The Gaongalelwe Commission of 2018 is the last SPECIFIED OFFICES) BILL, 2021 (NO. 4 OF commission to undertake a review of conditions of 2021) service for the political leadership, Justices of Appeal Second Reading - Forthwith. and Judges of the High Court, Members of Ntlo ya
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