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PUBLIC-PRIVATE SOLUTIONS TO EDUCATING A CYBER WORKFORCE JOINT HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON CYBERSECURITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTION OF THE COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON HIGHER EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND THE WORKFORCE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED FIFTEENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION OCTOBER 24, 2017 Serial Nos. 115–34 and 115–38 Printed for the use of the Committee on Homeland Security Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.govinfo.gov and http://edworkforce.house.gov U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 28–821 PDF WASHINGTON : 2018 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Publishing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512–1800; DC area (202) 512–1800 Fax: (202) 512–2104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402–0001 VerDate Mar 15 2010 15:24 Mar 16, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 H:\115TH CONGRESS\17JT1024\17JT1024.TXT HEATH Congress.#13 COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY MICHAEL T. MCCAUL, Texas, Chairman LAMAR SMITH, Texas BENNIE G. THOMPSON, Mississippi PETER T. KING, New York SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas MIKE ROGERS, Alabama JAMES R. LANGEVIN, Rhode Island JEFF DUNCAN, South Carolina CEDRIC L. RICHMOND, Louisiana LOU BARLETTA, Pennsylvania WILLIAM R. KEATING, Massachusetts SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania DONALD M. PAYNE, JR., New Jersey JOHN KATKO, New York FILEMON VELA, Texas WILL HURD, Texas BONNIE WATSON COLEMAN, New Jersey MARTHA MCSALLY, Arizona KATHLEEN M. RICE, New York JOHN RATCLIFFE, Texas J. LUIS CORREA, California DANIEL M. DONOVAN, JR., New York VAL BUTLER DEMINGS, Florida MIKE GALLAGHER, Wisconsin NANETTE DIAZ BARRAGA´ N, California CLAY HIGGINS, Louisiana JOHN H. RUTHERFORD, Florida THOMAS A. GARRETT, JR., Virginia BRIAN K. FITZPATRICK, Pennsylvania RON ESTES, Kansas BRENDAN P. SHIELDS, Staff Director STEVEN S. GIAIER, Deputy Chief Counsel MICHAEL S. TWINCHEK, Chief Clerk HOPE GOINS, Minority Staff Director SUBCOMMITTEE ON CYBERSECURITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTION JOHN RATCLIFFE, Texas, Chairman JOHN KATKO, New York CEDRIC L. RICHMOND, Louisiana DANIEL M. DONOVAN, JR., New York SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas MIKE GALLAGHER, Wisconsin JAMES R. LANGEVIN, Rhode Island THOMAS A. GARRETT, JR., Virginia VAL BUTLER DEMINGS, Florida BRIAN K. FITZPATRICK, Pennsylvania BENNIE G. THOMPSON, Mississippi (ex officio) MICHAEL T. MCCAUL, Texas (ex officio) KRISTEN M. DUNCAN, Subcommittee Staff Director (II) VerDate Mar 15 2010 15:24 Mar 16, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 H:\115TH CONGRESS\17JT1024\17JT1024.TXT HEATH COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND THE WORKFORCE VIRGINIA FOXX, North Carolina, Chairwoman JOE WILSON, South Carolina ROBERT C. ‘‘BOBBY’’ SCOTT, Virginia, Ranking DUNCAN HUNTER, California Member DAVID P. ROE, Tennessee SUSAN A. DAVIS, California GLENN ‘‘GT’’ THOMPSON, Pennsylvania RAU´ L M. GRIJALVA, Arizona TIM WALBERG, Michigan JOE COURTNEY, Connecticut BRETT GUTHRIE, Kentucky MARCIA L. FUDGE, Ohio TODD ROKITA, Indiana JARED POLIS, Colorado LOU BARLETTA, Pennsylvania GREGORIO KILILI CAMACHO SABLAN, Northern LUKE MESSER, Indiana Mariana Islands BRADLEY BYRNE, Alabama FREDERICA S. WILSON, Florida DAVID BRAT, Virginia SUZANNE BONAMICI, Oregon GLENN GROTHMAN, Wisconsin MARK TAKANO, California ELISE STEFANIK, New York ALMA S. ADAMS, North Carolina RICK W. ALLEN, Georgia MARK DESAULNIER, California JASON LEWIS, Minnesota DONALD NORCROSS, New Jersey FRANCIS ROONEY, Florida LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, Delaware PAUL MITCHELL, Michigan RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI, Illinois TOM GARRETT, JR., Virginia CAROL SHEA-PORTER, New Hampshire LLOYD K. SMUCKER, Pennsylvania ADRIANO ESPAILLAT, New York A. DREW FERGUSON, IV, Georgia RON ESTES, Kansas KAREN HANDEL, Georgia BRANDON RENZ, Staff Director DENISE FORTE, Minority Staff Director SUBCOMMITTEE ON HIGHER EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BRETT GUTHRIE, Kentucky, Chairman GLENN ‘‘GT’’ THOMPSON, Pennsylvania SUSAN A. DAVIS, California, Ranking Member LOU BARLETTA, Pennsylvania JOE COURTNEY, Connecticut LUKE MESSER, Indiana ALMA S. ADAMS, North Carolina BRADLEY BYRNE, Alabama MARK DESAULNIER, California GLENN GROTHMAN, Wisconsin RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI, Illinois ELISE STEFANIK, New York JARED POLIS, Colorado RICK W. ALLEN, Georgia GREGORIO KILILI CAMACHO SABLAN, Northern JASON LEWIS, Minnesota Mariana Islands PAUL MITCHELL, Michigan MARK TAKANO, California TOM GARRETT, JR., Virginia LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, Delaware LLOYD K. SMUCKER, Pennsylvania ADRIANO ESPAILLAT, New York RON ESTES, Kansas (III) VerDate Mar 15 2010 15:24 Mar 16, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 H:\115TH CONGRESS\17JT1024\17JT1024.TXT HEATH VerDate Mar 15 2010 15:24 Mar 16, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 H:\115TH CONGRESS\17JT1024\17JT1024.TXT HEATH C O N T E N T S Page STATEMENTS The Honorable John Ratcliffe, a Representative in Congress From the State of Texas, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Cybersecurity and Infrastruc- ture Protection: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 1 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 3 The Honorable Cedric L. Richmond, a Representative in Congress From the State of Louisiana, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Protection: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 4 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 5 The Honorable Bennie G. Thompson, a Representative in Congress From the State of Mississippi, and Ranking Member, Committee on Homeland Security: Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 11 The Honorable Brett Guthrie, a Representative in Congress From the State of Kentucky, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Higher Education and Work- force Development: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 6 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 7 The Honorable Susan A. Davis, a Representative in Congress From the State of California, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Higher Education and Workforce Development: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 8 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 9 The Honorable Virginia Foxx, a Representative in Congress From the State of North Carolina, and Chairwoman, Committee on Education and the Workforce: Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 11 WITNESSES Mr. Stephen A. Cambone, Associate Vice Chancellor, Texas A&M University System: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 12 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 14 Mr. Douglas C. Rapp, President, Rofori Corporation-DEFCON Cyber, Testi- fying on Behalf of the Cyber Leadership Alliance: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 15 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 16 Mr. David Jarvis, Security and CIO Lead, IBM Institute for Business Value: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 19 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 20 Mr. R. Scott Ralls, President, Northern Virginia Community College: Oral Statement ..................................................................................................... 28 Prepared Statement ............................................................................................. 30 APPENDIX Questions From Chairman John Ratcliffe for Stephen A. Cambone ................... 61 Questions From Chairman John Ratcliffe for Douglas Rapp ............................... 63 Question From Chairman John Ratcliffe for David Jarvis .................................. 64 (V) VerDate Mar 15 2010 15:24 Mar 16, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 H:\115TH CONGRESS\17JT1024\17JT1024.TXT HEATH VI Page Question From Chairwoman Virginia Foxx for David Jarvis .............................. 65 Questions From Chairwoman Virginia Foxx for Scott Ralls ................................ 66 VerDate Mar 15 2010 15:24 Mar 16, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00006 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 H:\115TH CONGRESS\17JT1024\17JT1024.TXT HEATH PUBLIC-PRIVATE SOLUTIONS TO EDUCATING A CYBER WORKFORCE Tuesday, October 24, 2017 U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY, SUBCOMMITTEE ON CYBERSECURITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTION, JOINT WITH THE COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE, SUBCOMMITTEE ON HIGHER EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, WASHINGTON, DC. The Subcommittee on Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Protec- tion and Subcommittee on Higher Education and Workforce Devel- opment met, pursuant to notice, at 2:06 p.m., in room 210, Rayburn House Visitors Center, Hon. John