13.January.2021 (THE LISTS ARE SORTED BY NUMBER AS PRIMARY IDENTIFIER) Carrozzeria Touring and the 2000 & 2600 - INTRODUCTION to either listing … or both This is a private study, unaffiliated with Alfa Romeo, FCA or "Carrozzeria Touring".

This listing is sorted primarily by the Alfa Romeo chassis number when that number is known. The next sort is by Touring number or scocca number. The order in this listing will change over time as Touring body and scocca numbers are reported.

Does your have a Touring hardtop? If so, please share the number on the Touring ID plate. I do not yet know if Touring numbered the hardtop with the same numbering as the body. Perhaps some of them were matching and some were not?

On the firewall of these , there is generally a small ovaloid piece of metal screwed onto the firewall (right of center) and this is stamped with a number that I call a "scocca" (platform) number.

I am seeking to fill as many blanks as possible and correct any errors present. "Skinthin" supplied the image that I doctored above 30 October 1957 … Salone Internazionale dell'Automobile - Torino foto Bertazzini If you have word from Alfa Romeo about specific build date This is not yet a real example The display of Carrozzeria Touring Archiv.RIO (manufacture date) and delivery date or other "sold" date of a question we have. We can guess that the Touring body number of the show car was probably information, this will be welcome news for any car. Who's first? Maybe 606, 686 or 989? in the range of #49xx or early #50xx. At this time, Touring's production focused on the Alfa Romeo 1900C, early 3500GT and a few Pegaso cars. Reminder: When writing to Alfa Romeo, always include your engine number. Ditto for Borrani wheels & hardtop? The early Maserati 3500GT displayed here may well be numbered similarly by Touring? They may confirm it being the original but will not supply that detail if you do not supply it. Another image at the 1957 Salone in Torino appears in The Autocar 8.11.57 p.745 This listing has had a lot of input from several people. I hope you will become one of them! In particular, I thank Ruedi Aschwanden, Corrado Bellabarba, Lorenzo Boscarelli, Eric Harrison, Carter Hendricks and Peter Marshall! Ruedi credits Malcom Harris and others. I am told that there will be input originating with registries compiled by Tom Zat and Dale Zat. A huge thank you also to Adolfo Orsi and Raffaele Gazzi of Historica Selecta for their annual automobile auction reviews titled: "Catalogo Bolaffi delle Automobili da Collezione (YEAR)", "Catalogo Bolaffi delle Automobili Italiane da Collezione" (Giulio Bolaffi Editore) and "Classic Car Auction Yearbook" (with Hagerty's (2006-2008 volume) and then Historica Selecta for 2008-2009 and later.) During January 2021, Björn Nilsson added data describing twenty cars that have spent time in Sweden. Most are new additions. Please help us make this listing more complete. Thank you, John de Boer … The Italian Car Registry

Warning! Any time a large amount of data is compiled from many sources, there is risk of confusion and error! Please assist us to correct any errors! If your car is listed, please check the reported numbers. If your car is not listed at all, please report anything you are willing to. This listing will become more informative for all. Even a loose Touring I.D. plate will be included as a data point. Please identify the car it came from if you can. chassis 191884 (image supplied by Eric Harrison) Tipo plate, Touring number plate, Ruddspeed conversion number plate. It is worth reviewing what has been written in the past by some folks who have had access to some official records. Note: There is often more information in any image pasted into Luigi Fusi, in his 1978 book, Alfa Romeo, Tutte Le Vetture dal 1910 - 3rd edition this sort of document than is implied by the image's size. Production 1958 = 62 x spider 2000 (Was the 1957 prototype/show car counted among these?) If you copy and paste this image (or any other) on top of another Production 1959 = 1056 x spider 2000 five speed, drum brakes image file that is opened in "PAINT" or another image editing Production 1960 = 1930 x spider 2000 program, you will likely see more detail than you can see here. Production 1961 = 410 x spider 2000 Remember to "Save As" immediately to avoid losing the image that for a total of 3443 spider 2000 examples built (while I show the added total as 3458) was there prior to pasting. Perhaps have a "junk" image ready? (Perhaps Fusi knew of some certain chassis numbers that were not used or completed?) Just in case? Production 1962 = 515 x spider 2600 five speed, disc brakes at front, later disc brakes all around Production 1963 = 984 x spider 2600 LHD plus one RHD spider ("g.d.") Production 1964 = 589 x spider 2600 (g.s = guida sinistra = LHD) plus 102 x spider 2600 (g.d. = guida destra = RHD) Production 1965 = 64 x spider 2600 for a total of 2152 spider (2+2) 2600 examples built in LHD form while there were 103 in the "series" RHD form (Note: A careful study of the Alfa Romeo 2600 production ledger by Ruedi Aschwanden allows him to estimate approximately 2150 spider Touring examples completed once a "destroyed in testing" example is not counted)

Giacomo Tavoletti, in his 2004 book, Il signor Touring, repeated the "3443" total for 1958 - 1961 (seemingly from Fusi?) and seemingly ventured a guess as to the Touring body number range as "seem to be be included between7800 and 14700". (Note: We know the Touring number low end is much lower and the high end shown here strays well into 2600 spider production.)

Giacomo Tavoletti, in his 2004 book, Il signor Touring, reported "2255" total for the "spider 2+2 of 1962 to 1965 (confirming Fusi's total as well) He repeated the Touring body number range as "seem to be included between 7800 and 14700". (Note: The low end is clearly higher and the high end is much higher, probably 103xxx - 167xx or so.)

30 October, 1957 spider 2000 first displayed at the Salone Internazionale dell'Automobile - Torino Quattroruote 11//1957 2000 spider anticipated Quattroruote 12//1957 2000 spider presented Quattroruote 12//1958 2000 spider (with hardtop) presented Quattroruote 11//1959 spider 2000 list price = lire 2.900.000 (berlina 2000 was lire 2.600.000) Sports Cars Illustrated 2000 spider and berlina tested for the issue of June, 1959 (spider 2000 price at POE (Hoffman - NY or Beverly Hills) was $4,998)

PLEASE CONSIDER PRINTING ONLY THE PAGE(S) THAT MOST INTEREST YOU REMINDER: THIS LISTING IS NOW SORTED IN CHASSIS NUMBER ORDER AND IT MAY BE EASIEST TO SEARCH IT WITH THE COMPUTER IF SEEKING A SPECIFIC TOURING NUMBER OR NUMBER ZONE.

This list has been edited to sort primarily in the order of the Alfa Romeo chassis number (column A). Where the chassis number is not yet reported with certainty, Touring and scocca numbers provide a "best guess" location in this listing.

(Because we see that Touring body numbers can run in batches, particularly during their later production, might we expect there to be a production Touring number batch for the Alfa Romeo 2000 beginning near Touring #5260?)

(Pre-production prototypes could be numbered significantly earlier by Touring?) (This does NOT mean we should expect precise linearity anywhere else in the listing … even if it can occur!)

CdO=3.7.57 AR1900C*10590 T#5124 19.12.58 AR1900C*10597 T#5131 AR1900C*10591 T#5137 27.7.57 & 24.3.58 AR1900C*10596 T#5140

1957 Salone Torino - Touring PROTOTIPO *00001 ? estimated T#4950-5150 ? … unless this (first or early?) example was built on an AR1900 platform that retained AR1900 numbering? … or, was the show "car" simply a styling mock-up that was never made into a functional car and numbered?

"1958" Maserati 3500GT AM101*068 to 101*140 (even numbers only) 5200 - 5228 (I have included some notes referring to numerical batches of Touring bodies made for other builders as a reminder that we do not expect to find an Alfa Romeo 2000 OR 2600 with a number in that range. Even so, we should also remind ourselves that anything is possible.) (There is anecdotal evidence that Alfa Romeo placed their production orders generally in batches of fifty cars.) ref: Ruedi Aschwanden NOTE: Ruedi Aschwanden has prepared a useful guide as to where one might look for numbers throughout the various parts of each car. It can be found at: https://www.alfabb.com/threads/carrozzeria-touring-and-the-alfa-romeo-spider-2000-2600-mostly.702160/page-4#post-8603033 Please scroll down to posting #64.

ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE PREPARED LISTINGS THAT SHOW HOW MUCH WE DO NOT YET KNOW. *Please correct any information you see here that is inaccurate or please add to any entry that is incomplete. (iicarATearthlinkNET) *Please share information from your car. If you desire any level of anonymity, I will find a way to accommodate your wishes. *If you would like to share information for study purposes but keep it private in published listings, please let me know and I will find a way to make this happen. abbreviations used in the Alfa Romeo 2000 and 2600 Touring Sturdy documents: AR-CH = "Societa per il Commercio dei Prodotti Alfa Romeo" AR-D = (German distributor) AR-F or "Renault" = (ID plate) "ALFA ROMEO - MILANO … Distributeur Pour La France … REGIE NATIONAL des USINES RENAULT" AR-NJ, USA = Alfa Romeo Inc. - Newark, NJ, USA ao = as of Rudds = Ruddspeed - UK CdO = Certificato d'Origine (a legal "birth certificate" for a car), required for an Italian market car. T&T = Thomson & Taylor - Surrey, UK A.R.A. = Alfa Romeo (a book) c.d. = completion date (day.month.year) CB1995 = Catalogo Bolaffi delle Autom. da Collezione 1995 (& 1996, 1997, 1998) R.A. = Ruedi Aschwanden - Canada d.d. = delivery date (day.month.year) (Catalogo Bolaffi yearbooks … compiled by Adolfo Orsi and Raffaele Gazzi of Historica Selecta) CB = Corrado Bellabarba - Italia d.p. = data produzione (day.month.year) CB2000 = Catalogo Bolaffi delle Automobile Italiane da Collezione 2000 (& 2002. 2003, 2004, 2004-2005) E.H. = Eric Harrison - UK i.d. = invoice date ("Fattura") (day.month.year) CB2005-2006 = Catalogo Bolaffi delle Automobile Italiane da Collezione 2005-2006 C.H. = Carter Hendricks - USA m.d. = manufacture date (day.month.year) CCAY = Classic Car Auction Yearbook (and the years) FJ = Fantasy Junction - CA, USA s.d. = sale date (day.month.year) 2009-2010, 2010-2011, 2011-2012, 2014-2015, 2015-2016, 2016-2017, 2017-2018, 2018-2019 iicar = John de Boer - Grass Valley, CA, USA g.d. = guida destra (right hand drive) (Classic Car Auction Yearbook … compiled by Adolfo Orsi and Raffaele Gazzi of Historica Selecta) B.N. = Björn Nilsson g.s. = guida sinistra (left hand drive) r:o = reference: owner or former owner

Seeking details for each car: Tipo number, chassis number, engine number, scocca number, French ID plate?, German?, Swiss?, RHD conversion by Ruddspeed?

Brake configuration? Engine bonnet opening at front or rear? Gearbox number? Touring hardtop? If so, does it share the Touring body number?

Color data also welcomed. Ownership history? License plates worn? Borrani wire wheels? RW number? Are they dated? Distinctive modifications? Some cars will have Homologation (Omologazione) markings beginning "OM" and/or "IGM"? This was required in beginning ______(when?)

Another place to register your car if it is existing as a functional or potentially functional car: [email protected] Registro Internazionale Touring Superleggera

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