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Agenda Item 4 Page 1 Agenda Item 4 EDMONTON GREEN, HASELBURY AND UPPER EDMONTON AREA FORUM - 13.7.2010 MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE EDMONTON GREEN, HASELBURY AND UPPER EDMONTON AREA FORUM HELD ON TUESDAY, 13 JULY 2010 COUNCILLORS PRESENT George Savva MBE (Chairman), Kate Anolue (Vice Chairman), Andreas Constantinides, Christiana During, Patricia Ekechi, Chris Murphy and Andrew Stafford ABSENT Ali Bakir and Jayne Buckland OFFICERS David Taylor (Operations Manager – Transportation), David Dollemore (Environmental Crime Officer) Also Attending: Adam Davison, Paul Phillips & Tim Spencer (Tottenham Hotspur FC), Councillor E Savva, Councillor Keazor, Carlene Moore (Enfield Homes) and approximately 25 residents 1 APPOINTMENT OF CHAIRMAN Councillor G Savva MBE was appointed Chairman for the 2010/11 municipal year. The Chairman thanked Councillor Andrew Stafford for his work as Chairman for the past few years. 2 APPOINTMENT OF VICE CHAIRMAN Councillor Kate Anolue was appointed Vice Chairman for the 2010/11 municipal year. 3 WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS The Chairman welcomed all present to the meeting and the Councillors introduced themselves. 4 APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE Apologies for absence were received from Councillors Buckland and Bakir. 5 DECLARATION OF INTERESTS NOTED Page 2 EDMONTON GREEN, HASELBURY AND UPPER EDMONTON AREA FORUM - 13.7.2010 1. Councillor Constantinides declared that he was a Tottenham Hotspur FC season ticket holder (agenda item 8) and that he and other local councillors had been involved in trying to resolve resident parking issues around North Middlesex Hospital (agenda item 10). 2. Councillor G Savva MBE declared he was a Tottenham Hotspur FC supporter. 6 MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD ON 30 MARCH 2010 AGREED that the minutes of the meeting held on 30 March 2010 be confirmed as a correct record. Actions from the last meeting Rays Avenue, N18 – Rubbish/Rat issue Councillor Murphy advised that a meeting would be held shortly prior to the court case to try to evict the squatters on the land. Following eviction the land would be cleared and then a decision made as to its future use. Fairfield Road – Cab parking and kerb side mechanics Councillor Stafford considered that the response provided by the Environmental Crime Officer was unsatisfactory and that a solution to resolve the problem must be found. Action: David Dollemore/Abi Latinwo Sebastopol Road - CDI project A presentation from Sarah Carter (Enabling Officer – Place Shaping & Enterprise) would be received at the next Forum meeting. 7 UPDATE FROM THE POLICE NOTED that there were no police representatives in attendance at the meeting. 8 IMPACT OF NEW TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR GROUND RECEIVED a briefing from Paul Phillips, Tim Spencer and Adam Davison (Tottenham Hotspur FC) on the proposed new Tottenham Hotspur stadium including the following issues: a. the original scheme had been withdrawn following concerns from English Heritage; b. consultation on a revised scheme, which included refurbishment of some buildings in the conservation area, would be ending shortly; Page 3 EDMONTON GREEN, HASELBURY AND UPPER EDMONTON AREA FORUM - 13.7.2010 c. the new proposal was for a 56,250 seat stadium to accommodate an extra 20,000 fans, with a supermarket, large public plaza, club shop, hotel and 200 residential units; d. Tottenham Hotspur FC (the Club) was working closely with Haringey and Enfield Councils on plans for managing extra fans; e. fans would be encouraged to travel by public transport – White Hart Lane railway station, Northumberland Park railway station, Seven Sisters rail and underground station and Tottenham Hale rail and underground station, as well as buses, cycling and walking. A target of 77% fan travel by public transport had been proposed; f. it was intended to increase the capacity of White Hart Lane station with fans arriving earlier and staying later at the stadium to avoid surges; g. currently 40% of fans travelled by car to the stadium, the target for the new stadium was a reduction to 23%; h. approximately 5 to 6 thousand cars entered the local area on match days; i. following the introduction of match day Controlled Parking Zone (CPZ) in Haringey fans had dispersed car parking to residential roads in Enfield; j. it was intended to enlarge the CPZ in Haringey and introduce a match day CPZ in Enfield resulting in no free parking on public roads within a mile and half of the stadium (other than for residents); k. match day CPZs would be free of charge to local residents. This was followed by questions. 1. A resident remarked that the new stadium would be close to the Lee Valley Park and that benefits should be drawn from this. 2. Councillor Constantinides commented that CPZs tended to disperse cars out to neighbouring residential roads and therefore responsible authorities should be prepared to extend the CPZ until the problem was solved. The Club’s representatives confirmed that if the initial CPZ boundary was not sufficient they were under a legal obligation to review its operation and extend if necessary. A detailed annual report on fans pattern of travel would be produced. 3. Councillor Stafford commented improvements to the White Hart Lane railway line had been long awaited and asked what plans were in place to increase its capacity. The Club’s representatives advised that £1m expenditure would be made but that discussions continued on the specific improvements. It was anticipated that fans usage of the station would increase to 12,000 per game. 4. Residents remarked on problems caused by fans parking in local roads on match days, operation of the proposed CPZ and costs. Page 4 EDMONTON GREEN, HASELBURY AND UPPER EDMONTON AREA FORUM - 13.7.2010 The Club’s representatives advised that the proposed match day CPZ was three times bigger than the current one. The new Enfield CPZ would be 250 hectares, covering an approximate 30 minute walk from the stadium. However if roads outside of the CPZ became congested residents would be consulted on extending the CPZ to that area. The Club would bear the cost of implementing the CPZ and there would be no cost to residents for match day permits. Resident permits would be issued by vehicle without cap. The new stadium scheme also included provision for coach parking for away fans. The Chairman and Councillor Anolue commended the CPZ arrangement around the new Emirates Stadium and hoped that improvements in residential parking would be replicated by the proposed Enfield CPZ. 5. A resident queried why the proposal did not include provision for underground car parking as stadia in other countries did. The Club’s representative advised that this was the least sustainable mechanism for fan travel. Policy in this country did not support building stadia in Green Belt land, which would be required to facilitate underground parking. The new stadium’s increased fan numbers should not produce a discernable difference in car usage because of improved and increased public transport usage. David Taylor (Operations Manager – Transportation) commented that other issues also impacted the road network and that the Council was working with Haringey Council and Transport for London to ensure that the scheme was robust. Enfield Council’s Planning Committee would be considering the application at the end of July and residents were invited to write to Planning Officers to make their views known. 6. A resident remarked on the 2 hour diversion of buses around the Cambridge roundabout on match days. The Club’s representative advised that discussions with bus operators had been held and it was intended to trial a reduced diversion next season. 7. The Chairman commented that surges of fans walking down narrow residential streets could be frightening for residents and asked what arrangements could be put in place to control the arrival and departure of fans. The Club’s representative advised that stewards would be provided at stations to manage queues and keep good order. However it was the responsibility of the police to keep order on the public highway. 8. A resident asked if any local economic benefits would be brought about by the new stadium. Page 5 EDMONTON GREEN, HASELBURY AND UPPER EDMONTON AREA FORUM - 13.7.2010 The Club’s representative remarked that recent years had seen businesses moving out of the local area and a general cycle of decline. However the Club believed that the scale of the development would act as a catalyst to improve the area. The new supermarket and hotel would provide jobs for several hundred local residents and existing stadium jobs, such a stewarding, would be increased. The Club had worked closely with business occupiers to find new premises, 80-90% of which had successfully been relocated within the area. 9. A resident queried the impact of building works on the local area. The Club’s representative advised that the development would take 6 to 7 years to complete; supermarket in year 1, stadium in years 2, 3 and 4 and housing units after the old stadium was demolished. Any planning approval would have conditions attached to it regarding construction traffic movements to reflect best practice for construction. It was anticipated that this would include all deliveries to the stadium to be made off of the High Road and outside of the rush-hour. The Chairman thanked the Club’s representatives for their briefing. 9 HIGHWAYS AROUND RAYNHAM PRIMARY SCHOOL - CONGESTION RECEIVED an update from David Taylor (Operations Manager – Transportation) on highways around Raynham Primary School, including the following issues: a. during resurfacing works last year some traffic calming measures had been taken out; b. over the last 3 years there had been 8 slight injury accidents, 3 of which involved pedestrians, of which 2 were school age children; c. a recent survey had shown that the 20 miles per hour zone was generally being observed; d.
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