FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION/PRIVACY ACTS SECTION
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SOBLE IS STEADFAST In DSNIAL 0* ma: ' -i. 1 £14. : H"-r-*>/~.~Y*r-~._,,MO-.JL.l. .".?.:?,E~T ~- "" "Y" "1'r v-~r 11-war 1 92T92vvv ...-... 4a:L.i; -..l.G.'.£. 1 ;_. ;1 n_, .- , <7' Y """- '92.'r vf~'92 ?? 92I'f'92'v ~ ..v<...<.- '1 - ~/92 rjftvnyttfrg "92. ,1'92T W r ; ah "." vr.7~ -_;--YO :-q_--T.<;!,¬--3-,92->-_1 _,~;~.r-92{.-.;92;--¢L¢Sl ;J.'.; I;.;." U; CHALIAPI3, JOSEPH w >4 .»._»...|._. KATZ,vvnu HO OSJECTIOH ._. , _Y_>-r K ':~Yr92y'f92 n.. . _ A -1*. ii- i -_>,<_¢,'.» . ' ,.-..4..- . .,-4>.. . - -~--~- > .' '...-.,..__.~ .;______,_., _ -. H, ~-__._. i _ ». M» I FBI NEH YORK O3 1-2s-57 4-as PM JLW 13 g ¢iI DIRECTOR URGENT ' * _ -- , ~~»~» - . JACK SOBLE _ /HOCASE/, ESP DASH H. INTERVIEW WITH JACK 92 ii§______SOBLE BEGAN~§%_ E3 , TEN ZERO FIVE EN-S OFFICE, FEDERAL HOUSE OF DETENTION. IIQ; 4 SOBLE FIRST azruszn TO coma DOWN FROM CELL, sur THEN CONSENTED T0 coM§I DOWN AND READ ITEHIZED LIST OF PROPERTY REMOVED FROH HIS APARTMENT. I., _;§ SOBLE STATED THAT HE DID NOT DISH TO BE IHTERVIEHED UNTIL HE HAD TALKEE TO AN ATTORNEY, AND SAID THAT HE HADNO PARTICULAR ATTORNEY IN MIND! T; BUT THAT HIS BROTHER, ROBERT, UAS O TAIHING AN ATTORNEY. THE ITENZED»; LIST OF PPOPEPTY U M . .. . ED 1 TO SO°_FQLM AND I S GLASSES HERE SENT FOR BECAUSE HE HAD FORGOTTEN THEM. HHILE UAITING FOR HIS GLASSES, SOBLE ii SAID "I HILL GET YOUR HAN AND PROVE HIH TO BE A LIAR"- WHEN ASKED if., r~' SOBLE SAID HOHHOS AND FLATLY REFUSED TO COMMENT FURTHER. I SOELE THEN COHPLAINED THAT HE HAD NOT SLEPT AND HAD A BAD HEADACH- SOBLE THEN READ AND SIGNED ITEHIZED LIST OF PROPERTY REMOVED FRON HISj APARTMENT. ARRANGHEHTS HERE MADE UITH OFFICER PIERREDE MONTRABEL TO _ HAVE HIM BROUGHT TO THE HOU SE OF DETENTION HOSP EXAMINATION. A SOBLE THEN ROSE AND INSISTED THAT THE IHTEHV E TERM INATED. SOBLE 5 F *4 SAID HE NIGHT SEE L " TS AFTER _ TALKING TO HIS ATTORNEY.SOBLE was AGAIH- i HEHINDED OF THE IHFORHATIOH APPEA IN THE LETTERS HEAD TO HIH THE .T I PREVIOUS NIGHT AND URGED TO RECONSIDER"SERIOUSNESS OF HIS PHEDICANENT- I SOBLL THEN_REQUESTED KENNEDY TO RETURN HIM TO CELL. INTERVIEW I TEA NINETEZN An. . NATE ~ r.v r 1 4. - .. - _ ,.!.';'. 92 .u. ,..».-.. -- -<92.'... ~ - 0'.» _--~. V.» -' _.< I -/. '.- ..-4" _ lilv ,9249292 z ._-. .. z I g_~» 9 ' 1 1 FBI EH.YU -~ -~~v--.. .-92 - -- e J1¢;C1O; -~- J »-._.. 7-7- YT?!u4;'J Q;a K 7~r>.!921 7' ~.."-J1/J-.4-- !]yUI.57 ' vi L -21'1"» ~- _nT1cn, 26 k / » > v IJFOEELTIGH IHCLU? _,/5» '7 "w . £2; ~, L'i!a .l':: 92 '~ ?%* 1 * ¥M'="~"* , §vmAsN£Q %~ IUJ L TIDE EYC, JJQ RTY3 MREINIS uwcmsswlm ~ vi. I 1. "T2! F .x.1_.:.r.1. . -4 LO O? = DATE #1:: [05 3y5£Yi_m5cj&'p: , s..-.1 :3-m V ,;.4.. '!1 "[-*."'~Al _ l '_~L'92-*0: >4 E n=*T.. n"92/"'1," .~. 1--r92 3-Q? PH JLH f . .1 ._>;_,[-mi!»C"? XI ! y 4 .'1;.~>- .-._._QT, L, ,- . 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SOBLE ,+ ;,>-_' AGAIN QUESTIONEDRI ASSOCIATION UITH ZUEILIH UHON HEKNEE ASFOHIN AND ADVISED ZUBILIN GOT IN TO WITH SOBLE BY LETTER AND T J I - l - "¢'*"92' ,~ _, » -I» -. . __» W » .~ ...._ 4;. PAuL r--'-n1Hu....-.--...... can ANARCHISTS, A? ER ANTI CAPITALIST END QUOTE. IN PARIS IH NINETEE§>5 FORTYZIGHT SOELE ADVISED HE INTRODUCED BORIS HORROS TO JACK ALBAH AND TOLD MORROS THAT ALBAH HAS A PHOTOSR INCIDENT OF HASDIT APHER. SOBLE ADVISED HE RECALLS " T ; FULL OF HONEY T0 MORROS TO CARRY THROUGH CUSTOHS. HE SAID HE HECALLED THE ENVELOPE CONTAINED TUO TO THREE HUHDEED DOLLAES. SOSLE ADVISED HE U HOME I RIHZTEEN EIST DZTSEIH SZVZETY SECOND A33 SEVE . HE HST T _ ZLATOVSKI IN HINZTEZH ET JANE FOSTER ZLATOVSKI AT STERN- THIS HOHZ HAS LOCATED OH CENT? - W _ . - / ~ .. ._ . V ..;92 . ..u »¢ ______,_ _~ ,._ _ _ C o . 1* Q M? ' . 11 V," g Y 4/11/57 mmww TO: DIRECTOR, FBI - .»>-1-.1 ¢ mom: N SAC, NEW YORK 00-asses! » - 1 JACK SOBLE,'%ET AL; ESP DASH R. PRELIMINARY INTERVIEVTHAD . - -* _ ~». . '{ - 0 ._ mwa '1 MYRA 4 SOBLEAT wommvs . ' -" HOUSEDETENTION, - I NY, TEN mm ,v.. AJE. '.1 _ . ' A .. 1, 92_ » - r TO TWELVE NOON AND ONE FIFTEEN P.M TO THREE TWENTY TWO P-M., - 4 APRIL ELEVENTH INSTANT. MYRA STATED DESIRES TO COOPERATE FULLY AND ANYTHING SHE SAYS IS TRUTH. QUESTIONED PRIMARILY OF PERSONAL s 1 KNOWIEDGE OF ANY AMERICAN CONTACTS AND HEROWN ACTIVITIES IN US AS SOVIET AGENT. MYRA STATED HAS NO PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF ESPIONAGE ACTIVITIES OF DR. ROBERT SOBLE OR DINA SOBLE. STATED MET ESTHERARAND AND HUSBAND IN NINETEEN FORTY FIVE, KNOWS ESTHER N FURNISHED JACK SOBLE WITH INFORMATION ON JEWISH ACTIVITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS, RANDS KNEW SOBLE AS SOVIET AGENT, AND I1-IAT RANDS INTRODUCED ALICE AND JAMES MARTIN TO SOBLES. MYRA INTRODUCED ALBAM TO ALICE MARTIN SO LATTER COULD GET HIM A BRIDE. MYRA BELIEVES ALICE KNEW OF BACKGROUND AND PURPOSE OF ALBAM. MYRA MET NAMES MARTIN JULY NINETEEN FIFTY TO GET A REPORT FROM HIM n ; 1-LOS ANGELES mm! 1*SAN FRANCISCO mm! -1 1- WASHINGTON FIELD RM! »»s;.I :§~:m:¢~:%~:> E I I "" k' 1-NEW YORK es-14702Sub n! KIREIN I3. U§92Ebp.¢s:i§fN?§?§B '2 ! g $313!? gggggggsgub N! := M753 /S51553Y~5¢E119 1"@/93 Z»»: ' 'sAm=ib_-; #s! - ~ - ' ,,...._.-...r 4 L v pub s 3 / °" §5?¢iA/F175 . -. .,..,- ...... -.u.~...... -' ._~.,-., '1' - _.__.: .. .. -- < ~ ~ ~- K ¬ ii J NY 100-86896 WHICH HE REFUSED AND IMPLIED WOULD FURNISH NO FURTHER REPORTS. /-/92-.~-,;'.¢_,¢.y 7 /if? -A. .~,_,>_,,, . »/,-/ 21 MYRA WENT TO. EUROPE AUGUST NINETEEN FIFTY AND WROTE REPORT Ia, _ ." . " . . ~" : *.._ Q, 2 '-'" -. ~ ' ~ _,' , ., _ . . ., » f on ,nums§:1mR1'm'sREFUSAL T0 "FURNISH m mn 'INFORMA,TI '!N. * ; -*- ;,- -. _ 1 -_ -,>..;. 92_- '_ ; . .~~; ; ; :. V._ .,_:<~ - -- .» '- 1 . ; - ~- - .5 ,7». - ~ -2 -.. ~~ ; ' _ _ A > - OF :»1jbfR1mrIomfn§i§§1¢ovqw To 612 ivziu_-@3212 ngsbarsS'11 1'm'__ I t1.',1'E1,>-. r THIS REPORTDELIVERED TOSOVIETS, BUTMYRA CANNOTNOW RECALL r TO WHAT PRINCIPAL OR WHERE. MYRA DENIED GIVING RANDS OR MARTINS 1 A ANY PAYMENTS BUT STATED BANDS AND MARTINS KNEW SOBLEAS SOVIET e AGENT. ADMITTED GIVING CASH TO ALBAM. MYRA DENIED ANY OTHER ESPIONAGE ACTIVITY IN US. AEMITTED SHE ENTERTAINED VASSILI f A p ZARUBIN AND WIFE, MIKHAIL CHALIAPIN, MARTHA AND ALFRED STERN AT I-[ER RESIDENCE, SDI THIRTYW. ONE SEVENTIETH ST., NYC. ADMITTED KNOWING ILYA WOLSTON AS SOVIET AGENT, BUT CANNOT RECALL ACTIVITIES. DENIED KNOWING OTHER SOVIET AGENTS IN US. ADMITTED ACTINGAS COURIERIN EUROPEEOR JACKAND WRITINGHER OWN REPORTS,CONTENTS NOTNOW RECALLED, FOR DELIVERY TO SOVIETS. STATED METALEXANDER M. KOROTKOV PAREN SACHAUNPAREN NINETEEN- / FIFTY AT GENEVA, SWITZERLAND,FOR HISAPPROVAL OFHER. MET A 0 TWO BERNESOVIET CONSULAROFFICIALS AT BERNE-WITH JACK,NINETEEN 2 : - FIFTY TO RECEIVE FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS,MET SAME BERNE CONSULAR OFFICIALS TWICENINETEEN FIFTYONEASSUBSTITUTE FORJACK. MET SAME SOVIETS 1 -1 *- a . 92 . > u > x ' 1 , k ~ 4 .. '1 » TI...... =..-.-_-.:92.;...... - - -'-~-~ -< ' " - 1 , * é 2 Q; Q.a . 3 - E ., Ni NY 100-86896 - ' . '1/1'/. v AT ZURICHNINETEEN FIFTYONEWITH JANE ZLATOVSKI DELIVER TO ' 2/ -"¢_;;;-1. ff REPORTMADE sma1;"no_14, U? mn.mc1;z11921pNEWSPAPER: A131{Ic1'~E§,. " e; 1,, ,1. , ,5?!-. INDY mmmon ' =1 ...~ . x imam .!pfsT LEo1tH>~b.;,PE:Fiib1 FIFTY '. hf. WITH JACK.CENSURED LACK FOR OFREPORTS. DENIEDKNOWING O OR PHOTOOF LUCY JANE BOOKER,REBECCA GETZOFF,JOSEPH KATZ, r EMILY,OR PAUL CLARALEMPORT, JELENKO, EDNTUNDHUBER, GIZELIA Q DAVID BERTIN,LEAH MALAMENT,PIERRETTE EARLE AND PITTMAN, STEFANN. CHOUNDENKO, ABHANASY YERIMOV,AIEKSEI TIKHIMIROV, I / RETR V. FEDOTOV,VASSILI MOLEV,GREGORY M. KLESCHINOV, MAI.-AMED, IGOR SOKOLOV,STANISLAUS SHUI -.~OVSKY,C. PETROSIAN,ROSA EISENBERG. DENIEDKNOWLEDGE 11 GROUP BASHUNKNOWN SUBJECTS AS LISTEDIN TABLE OF CONTENTS,SUMMARY, JUNE ONEDATED JEN LAST, PAGESROMAN NUMERALTWO THROUGI SIX, EXCEPT ONE: PROFESSORU. S. BELIEVED IN IDENTICAL WITHSOVIET CONSULAR 1 OFFICIALN.Y~. NINETEEN MET FORTYSIX, TO SUCCESSOR CHALIAPIN, NOT IDENTICALWITH CHOUNDENKO, DESCRIBED HEIGHT, MEDIUM DARK HAIRAND EYES,HEAVY ALLEGEDLYSET, TO KNOWN BORQSMORROS AS MYRAANDJACK JOKEDWITH MORROS REGARDING PROFESSORSLONG Q COATALWAYS HE WORE. IWO: ROBERT DASH BEMAY DR. ROBERT ANDSOBLE I JANEK BEMAY ALBAM. THREE: BROVERMANDASH KNOWNONLY AS; -- - - Z _ _. . f_, . ~ P 92 H ~. _ . .. , . . , 1, . . ._ ~»._._ ,92. -. . ~" ~ - .. 1 ; 92 2 <- a ,>.-.- w § A x 92 4 . . , _ ' _ _ ,_ __,_ , _A __ __ <___.d»_,,_ _;__ __~__. .______L" 1 __4_ ,. ,3, _,....._.. . ..,.-,....._.._.v... .._ .., .. . <. ..~__._. .-,. A . ... - - - § ~s mr 100-asses -eiw , »¢;*' BRISTIE DEALER. 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LITTMAN KNOWNONLY AS INSURANCE AGENT. ELEVEN: HAROLD A ./, »/, .-- /. -4, . . --¢_ 9* ./9'/_I$f>17? '/.. _ ISIDOR ANDJULIUS SOBLE KNOWN ONLY AS RELATIVES. TWELVE: ; ' ".1; 4*.,'Ij »"- ;.'-=5;9, »'. .SOLLINS"KNOWN "ONLY AS FRIEND OF -DR. SOBLE -ANDSTERN. MTHIRTEEN: u ' 1";~.':. I .w ROBERT ST. JOHN AND MARRE KAHLER KNOWNAS PROPOSED ZLATOVSKIA»» . . -. 4? ! , RECRUITS. FOURTEEN: ARNOLD ANDMARIA WOLSTON ANDJOSEPH ~- / SOBLEKNOWN ONLY AS REIATIVES. FIFTEEN: ADJA ANSOHILEWITZKNUNN , AS ONE OF REFUGEEGROUP DASHPROBABLY KNEWHOW SOBLEARRANGEDO TRIP TOJAPAN: SIXTEEN:MENDEL LADSKYKNUNN ASONE OF, REFUGEE GROUP AND BELIEVED I 4 x ,/ A l .- /1 .,. -,»% .. -. ''_. : 3 _;@="..» Y , 1, ' -5,. -_ - , __ . _ _ ,__'_ V. J .~, N _ ' A _..,1 1_' >_'-~A>- ~,92M=v_ Y~._-,,<»,'-Q _ '§ . >~_-~.---=, _ -~»- ,- ~» , :»-.-'--» .- '" --' .. . ._: , .,, ~».-A~-~-: =45. . ,_ .. _- -» 2 _---'_ ,2 . -- - ._ ,- ~92§ 92 ¢. . ..=,;.»%,.,.;~3~.;,_; "; M v, ""-.3 , , " I ~ , ~ 2-,fr~ *>;~ » _,,~-.... _ . 1 1 . j ,» @ . _';'~J - .1-,,92 -2» - r __ xz -',.;/ L __~;...... ~.. 1- » ..w...... -,,.';.__.._-..._..; . . .. . -- A - ~< i Q Ev NY 100-86896 ¢ HAD ACTEDAS SOVIET AGENT IN SHANGHAI, CHINA. SEVENTEEN! ANYA AND HESELIS CHASENKNOWN AS RELATIVES EIGHTEEN! '»;;~;g-;4-,/ ; ~ >,r- CAPLAAT! QNLY ASREI~ATIYES_EI*§-9~ :A -ADA it °F..I:A?$K¥4 .:_-c - . I 1' ,»'1_ §, *4. .,:j[.<- 4Iv QtrEiaEc. .1 I _ ,_. fnA{ri1§§'A;'s ;"i"i!R'E'ER, .. .> Q .92.» man » .;92 4- iiw5 OE~ , °1§b§§is'3*1 . ; ', ;.. » I ----_§- ...- » Ir - , . - - ._<,' , Z: .=--.~ v.»> _» - :4- *» -~~ ,.'. -'-I -1.-Y -» Y. V v '_ / 1! ! soBLE TWENTYom! BORISurn JOSEPHSOBLE ONLY Aé RELATIVES " ///I:', TWENTY TWO!SACHA BELIEVEDIDENT WITHALEXANDER ELIAS, NOT / / 1*-,'_J//,/-3,." 4'1?" . ONLY _ ,, .. 4-,». Yr "§;_':5'§ , ,1;/Z " POSEN. TWENTYNE!OSCAR YOLLESKNOWN/AS FRIEND_ %"11<-2; /1 -1 9 >1 K IWENTYFOUR! ALEXANDERBELIEVED IDENTWITH ALEXANDERELIAS. TWENTY FIVE!JACQUES AJER.MICHEL ROUBINOWITZ,BORIS AND /11 EUGENIA AVTTCH, MADAME LUNTZ, AND mm OMTVEDT IQTOWNBUT NOT INVOLVEDESPIONAGE. TWENTYsrx! PAUL AND ALICE LOWBEER, a mxovm AS IN WHOSE HOME SOBLES MET DR. HENRY AND BEATRICE SPITZ ABOUTWHWI MYRATO BEMORE FULLYQUESTIONED. TWENTYSEVEN! ENRIQUE E.- AYERKNOWN ONLYAS RICH BUSINESS MANARGENTINA. 1 TWENTY EIGHT!SRDJAN PRICAKNOWN ASYUGOSLAV, FORMERHUSBAND LIZA ELIAS, PRESENT WIFEOF ALEXANDERELIAS; LIZA ELIAS KNOWN AS ACTIVECQMUNIST INCANADA. MYRASTATED SAMUELSOBLE GAVE.I 0 4 JACK FOURTEENTHOUSAND . 1 nomms,wmca ALEXANDERELIAS CHANGED TO US MONEY WHICH JACK GAVE TO ZARUBIN TO CARRY INTO US» A -. 6-. . 1'1}???" 5 - - $ w ¢~: ~.'1. _. 92 92 " 1 "14 Q .-*1» ,~-vw ,~ 1 x - 1 1, 6 ;. st ,1 ..~,1/..,,. , v ¢¢.- v»--. L/~vW r _-. 92--../M;. .z _-.~4.'.._...... --.' . -___. ;.... ./..._--.-=. -xv I-..< ._ __ ..r.. .. .-»-.:'<-_.-_ » § 3 NY 100-86896 1 , ,/4/_§_:I<~~;4 .1- *2 MYRA STATED JACK TO BUILD SELF UP FALSELY CLAIMED OSCAR * ».42£:.-,0 'J-» -»:75"7-. YOLLES ASTHISCONTACTAND JACK_'S. FURTHERcomimi. QUOTE imquom-1 2% ' »_1P_ 92.1 ._; ._-U: 1 A is_ . monnxislisiri. .. ~ ~ - _ - 1- /¢ 'Xl _ --1"sIcnE15;. _ ,_~.~..' -.T sTAimmn :s_'oém1 E1>~ >, ~ _. »_.- ¢, 1m_cm'- -_ » _;; .' 92_V.». 1: 1 '1§IYRA§;§EC1{PIDINGf;"';i . , ~ . _ I ~- . - . . 1 v- 1 . - .- - ~ vi . :-r92 / FORTY, WHILE JACK ACTED AS SOVIET AGENT WITHOUT RUSSIA. LA INTERVIEWMORROS SOVIET RE CONSULAROFFICIALWAS WHO CALLED THE PROFESSOR. KELLY i r I V / i 1. >> a .. /92 ,'v _>,- '~.1 $.14».1 I ~ '7 . 92~§ - , x »-;_.: »-.~. -- ' F .- .,_ §- - K Y /W, » 14 -1 A - -'..-...~~>.~....k.4».'1!;>I_. 1.1: .' i ___, ..- Iv QJ - _ -_ H .>,___' '_'-,x_... __-_,*- u '1 / - A . Y?! *~. - WLL !i%rUR:»'=;';. =_,-m iAnm; HEREIN ISUNCLASSIFIEQ % T}5|%DATE 30184 Q1 5 -,.-mac./pg, {N91161 DM§Mzo2-M~ T URGENT 4-12-5711~AePm JJD SGR I - qr n --- ~-. . TO DIRECTOR 27 FROM SAC NEW YORK 1OP JACK SOBLEESPfR. MOCASE. JACK SOBLEINTERVIEWED MORNINGAND AFTERNOON TouR'T TLvEINSTANT ATFEDERAL CORRECTIONALINSTITUTION, DANBURY, CONN. SOBLE ASSERTEDTHAT HE DESIRED TO COOPERATEFULLY AND - 92 DISCLOSE ALLINFO KNOWNTO HIMTRUTHFULLY ANDIN DETAIL. SOBLE GAVE THE APPEARANCEOF BEING UNDER PHYSICALANDMENTAL STRAIN. 92w IN INTER: VIEWHE ATTEMPTED TO RAMBLEAND TODISCUSS MATTERSOTHER THANPOINT. . IN DISCUSSION. SOBLE WASSLOW IN SPEECH ANDGAVE THEAPPEARANCE OF ATTEMPTING /ITONRECALL NAMES, DATES, ETC. . seam: STATED THATAFTER - - sr ARRIVAL IN THE US IN FORTYONE HE PROCEEDED TO BOSTON. SHORTLY THERE" I~- no n AFTER HEUENT TOCANADA TOASSIST HIS BROTHER BORISSOBLE, INTHE CANADIAN ANIMAL HAIR COMPANY UHICHUAS BEING BUILT. SOBLE STATED THAT ' n THERE HAS APOLITICAL SPLIT IN HIS FAMILY WITH HIS FATHER MOTHER AND SISTERS BECOMINGANTI COMMUNIST. SOBLE STATEDTHAT AFTERHE WENT TO CANADA HE TRAVELLED SOMEWHAT IN RELATION TO THE CANADIAN ANIMAL HAIR EUSINESS. HE STATED THAT SOMETINE IN FORTYTUO HE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM AMTORGSIGNED BYFOMIN, CHIEFOF THEBRISTLE DIVISIONAT AMTORG, F WHICH PROPOSED A SALE 0E*RUSSIAN BRISTLES. SOBLE ADVISED"AT-THIS»wig mm PAGEONE 7' - '- '~» . , 2 6: .4 ,1 M -'m é ~Ai~» W? ¢/ Q .. : . '_ . AM ~ ,:92 1;. ,3 . ,3; ,-,, _.. - » PW 92W,92,....-.A.92, In <' WW1_A.-,~,,.*,.,W,,.;,__$g;_'m_~__,4;; ;T;; ,;;_w_;,j:;i:;; ,/ K '_921____7§___V__V_:_~ ;> _ . .. ' TU A ;-7 N.» PAGE TWO ' POINT THATON LEAVINGRUSSIA NOFORNAL CONTACTIN THE US HADBEEN 0 ARRANGED} SOBLEADVISED THAT OVER PROTEST FRONHIS BROTHER, BORIS, ?%§ HE WENTTO NYCTO NEETFONIN ATANTORG MADISON ON IN AVENYC. SOBLE STATEDTHAT HE HAD TWO MEETINGSWITH FONIN AND AT THE SECOND NETING, FONINSTATED THATHE HAD A NAN WHO WANTED TONEET SOBLE. 0 SOBLE RELATEDTHAT HE WAS ATTHIS TINERESIDING ATTHE HOTEL PARIS I N NYC AND A DAYOR TWO LATER HEWAS CONTACTEDBY VASSILI ZUBILIN. - SOBLE STATEDTHAT UNTILNUCH LATER HE ONLY KNEWZUBILIN BYTHE NAME VASSILI NIKHAILOVICHAND NEVERKNEW HISLAST NANE. ZUBILIN TOLD SOBLE THATHE WANTEDSOBLE TOBE OFASSISTANCE HINTO ANDTHE SOVIETSIN AN ALLIED EFFORT T0DEFEAT THEGERNANS ANDTHE JAPANESE. SOBLE STATEDTHAT ZUBILINHAD TOLDHIN YOU ARE AT NY MERCY" U AND INSISTEDTHAT SOBLEJOIN THEEFFORT_IN RELATIONTO WINNING THE I%R¢ SOBLECONTINUED CONTACTSWITH ZUBILIN UNTIL ZUBILININTRODUCED IHN TOCHALIAPIN WHOMSOBLE KNEW AS NISHA, BUT WHOTOLD SOBLE THAT HIS NAMEWAS THE SANE AS THAT OFA FAMOUS RUSSIAN SINGERAND SOBLETOLD CHALIAPIN THATMUST BE HIS NAME. SUBJECT RELATED THATBOTH CHAL" IAPIN AND ZUBILIN BECAMEANNOYED WITH SOBLEjS RESIDENCEIN CANADA AND INSISTEDTHAT HEMOVE TONY WHERE HECOULD BE OF MORE SERVICETO mm. some PRESENTED PROBLEHTOms THENOF LACK or FUNDSAND rm; mn RAGE TWO K 0 I I. ¥ L _ " 7' .._> .v.,.,...--..-..~, .. ,, - u . 1» i QC . '~'¢ 4" _ _ --_ ¢--~. ~. .,,...-..- ..~. ._.. ._.. _ ...... _T ... . ,. _ _ ____";; ___4_;___,;_.__;______,_..v_,__ _,u,,._..__92_-92 ._. - - --. ___._i_;~ E am,.3 1 . H HE ma xwit! 4I~ !~, j PAGE THRE _ ~ A FACT THAT HEHAD FOURTEENTHOUSAND DOLLARSIN THEIMPERIAL BANKOF A' CANADA AND NO WAY OF BRINGING IT INTO THE US. SOBLE RELATED THAT - ZUBILIN AND CHALIAPIN . STATED THEY UOULD, TAKE CARE OF THIS MATTER- , THE FOURTEEN THOUSANDDOLLARS WASA DISTRUBUTION TO SOBLEOF HIS FATHERéS ASSETSWHICH ANOUNTEDTO ONE HUNDRED ANDTHIRTYFIVE THOUSAND s DOLLARS. SOBLEMENTIONED THATHE TOLD ALEXANDER ELIASTHAT THESOVIETS WERE HEEPINGHIM TO TRANSFER OFPART THIS HONEY, THISAMOUNT BEING PLACED ABOUTAT FOURTHOUSAND DOLLARSTO THEUS; SOBLERELATED THAT ELIAS DID NOTSEE THE SOVIETS IN CANADA. SOBLE RECALLED THAT THEsovxz END PAGE THREE ' <.,.;- 1 O -I -11.9 . I 3 2/ /3 /9'" :71 / /fx//I "Pg?! 3,:T 5 / ///Z B! /9:/,.:!¢ :' !// am. T J////24! ..! E? zz.@1!%F._ ' '. q __ ,., . . -1 . :<-4 1-'11:;. A " -. , I , .>/ _. ,_ - 1. ;. 7 '~ " _» .5. /. T ;-. /.->» I /3 , 4 - ~ _. L _. <'-,'__...... '..__,.. . ;. ... _ ...... -.-~ _¢"4' 92-4IQ¢lL:l4#"1Q iv92;-¢& i-1;p@i;>g .A';»»' 1, - » _ - _. ~ - * 2 a , J 3 ! x PAGE FOUR , »5"_'.$ ZUBILIN AND CHALIAPIN DROVE TO CANADA BY CAR AND PICHED UP A PORTION OF THE FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS WHICH WAS LOCATED AT THE IMPERIAL BANK IN CANADA IN THE ACCOUNT OFJACK AND MYRA SOBLE. SOBLE RELATED * THAT THESOVIETS TOOK FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARSIN CASH BACK TOTHE UNITED . 92 . STATES FOR HIM. SOBLE STATED THAT HE HAD NO IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT OR CONTACTS THATAND MARKZBOROWSKI WAS INTRODUCED,TOSOBLE BYCHALIAPIN EIFORTYTHREEO SOBLE STATED THAT ZBOROWSKI WAS AN ENTHUSIASTIC AND EAGER SUPPLIEROF INFO AND SAIDZBOROWSKI FURNISHEDWRITTEN REPORTS- ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THAT SOBLE-S PRESENT RECOLLECTION IS THAT THESE CONCERNEDTROTSKYITES, NENSHEVIKSAND ONéPROFESSOR DALLIN AND IRS DALLIN. SOBLE STATED THAT ZBOROWSKI TOLD HIM THAT A SOVIET'WASI some TO FLEE FROM ONE OF THE SOVIET ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE US AND I ZBOROWSKI DID NOT KNOW WHETHER THE FLEEING SOVIET WAS FROM AMTORG ca THE sovn.-31" EMBASSY NOR DID HE KNOW THE NAME; SOBLE RELATED THAT ZBOROWSKI HAD APPARENTLY THEMET PROSPECTIVESOVIET DEFECTORON THE srnzm IN THE VICINITY OF DALLINfS HOUSE AND DIRECTEDTHE INDIVIDUAL ¢ - . TO DALLIN S HOUSE. SOBLE SAID THAT ZBOROWSKI IMMEDIATELY CONTACTED HIM, TOLD HIM OF THESITUATION ANDREQUESTED THATSOBLE-S SUPERIORS BE NORIFIED. SOBLE NOTIFIEDCHALIAPIN, WHOIN TURN NOTIFIED ZUBILINQ sow: WAS~jTHEN-CONTAE-'1 -.ED.BY~-~ZUBU£ INCENSURED 1-mo~ HI-bf-FOR SUCH 1m"_o,-; 5- AS ZUBILIN APPARENTLY DID NOT BELIEVE THERE WAS TO BE A DEFECTION. 92 ETD PAGE FOUR _ _,.F - 92 4 5:1. ¬ X i §~ 1 ~ 1 5»? ~ ~, »- _ __.__-. __,_ __ __- _ / _ . ~-~ _~ -A _-;~A-.__._ _;' l-» PAGE FIVE SOBLE SAID THAT SEVERAL DAYS LATER THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF VICTOR KRAVCHENKO-S DEFECTION APPEARED IN THE NEWSPAPERS AND THIS WAS THE Q . INDIVIDUAL TO WHOM ZBOROHSKI HAD REFERRED. SOBLE SAID THAT HE PAID 1 ZBOROHSKI ONE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLARS A NONTH. SUBSEQUENT TO THE TIMETHAT SOBLE WAS TURNED OVER BYCHALIAPIN TO CHOUNDENHO, CHOUNf . £2 D I DENKO REQUESTED TO MEET ZBORONSKI. fHOUNDENHO, KNOWN TO SOBLEAS THE -PROFESSOR , CLAIMED THAT ZBOROUSKI HAS NOT SUPPLYING SUFFICIECT INFO -Ill "9 FOR THE PAYMENT BEING NADE. SUBSEQUENT TO SOBLETS INTRODUCTION o CHOUNDENKOAND zsonowsxi, SOBLE DID NOT THEREAFTER, sEE ZBOROHSKI. . . q; SOBLE CLAIMED THAT ZBORONSKI KNEW SOBLE-S NAME AND WAS OF A FRIENDLY DISPOSITION TO SOBLE, SINCE SOBLE HAD NOT PUSHED HIN FOR INFO. ZBORONSKI - I4 TOLD SOBLE OF PREVIOUS ACTIVITY FOR THE SOVIETS IN THE TROTSKYITE PBVEMENT IN EUROPE AND MENTIONED HIS RELATION TO TROTSHY S SON, LEON SEDON¢e SOBLE RELATED IN-RELATION TO JACOB ALBAM THAT HE HAD KNOWN - 0 HIM IN VILKAVISHIS, LITHUANIA, CASUALLY¢ SOBLE STATED THAT HIS RELATION ¢ I 0 Q I TO ALBAM IN THEIR HOME TOWN WAS LIMITED BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT ALBAM 1 ENS OF AN OLDER AGE GROUP THAN HIMSELF. SOBLE RELATED THAT HE HAD PET ALBAM FOR THE FIRST TIME AFTER LEAHING LITHUANIA IN gWENTY NINE IN PARIS, WITH SOBLE S WIFE MYRA. SOBLE RECALLED THAT HE MAT ALBAM AGAIN IN THIRTY THREE o 'TH1nTYEouR 1N Moscow. soBLE_sTATEn:THAT TO THE BEST .¢__ I _ I Y OF HIS RECOLLECTION ALBAM wAs EMPLOYED IN MOSCOW AT THAT TIME. SOBLE , END PAGE FIVE " , ' < .. .>~ i~ Q1 I . » .2%§"5 §3a:1~ A * A» 3* v f V . . ¬ A~ __... ._>_',4 A}.4.~ < ..~ :4...» mV. - _ 4.. ,_ _ ~ ~-~7-1,;-___ -__- ~/ 1 PAGE'SIX - V » - STATED THAT HE HIMSELF HAD SPENT FROM THIRTY THREE UNTIL FORTY NORKING IN MOSCOWAS A JOURNALIST. SOBLESTATED THATTHE NEXTTIME HESAN H ALBAM HASIN FORTY SEVEN IN PARIS. SOBLE STATEDTHAT DURINGTHE YEARS HE, HIMSELF, SPENT IN MOSCOW HE HAS NOT SURE WHETHER ALBAM RESIDED THERE FOR ANYLENGTH OF_TIMEBUT INDICATED THAT ALBAMMIGHT HAVE HAD SOME ASSIGNMENTS UNKNOWNTO HIM. IN FORTY SEVEN ALBAMTOLD SOBLE WHEN THEY ¥ PET IN PARIS THAT HE HAD SPENT THEUAR IN SIBERIA HAVING BEEN EVACUATED FROM MOSCOW. SOBLE RELATED THAT THE FORTYSEVEN MEETING IN PARIS TOOK PLACE WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF JACOB ALBAM-S BROTHER, SOLOMON ALBAM UHOHAD GIVEN TO SOBLE JACOB ALBAM S ADDRESS IN PARIS._ SOBLE AT ms POINT RELATED THATms x-ms mo? AWARE !-IIIISELFoz: SOLOI ~ION"ALBAM-S. KNOWLEDGE OFHIS BROTHERJACOB S ACTIVITIES. WHEN SOBLEMET ALBAM p Q0 IN PARIS SOBLE DID NOT HAVE A SOVIET CONTACT. ALBAM INTRODUCED SOBLE , TO HISSOVIET CONTACTNAMEDNISHA.' SOBLE STATED MISHAfSLAST NAMENAS A: RROBABLY HOUZNETZOV.KOUZNETZOV TOLDSOBLE THATSOBLE SHOULDGO TO 0 0 - IDSCON. SOBLE PROCEEDED ON HIS AMERICAN PASSPORT TO PRAGUE WHERE IE HAS MET AND TRAVELLED ON SOVIET PAPERS TO MOSCOW. IN MOSCOW SOBLE HAS INTERVIEHEDBY PETROVAND_MET FEDOTOVAND ZUBILIN. SOBLE-STATED THAT . " -' 1»-an-ms QUESTIONEDAT "mus 'rn~;1:'m:1.AT1<'>192r IN ms" mo .-$1.1:-1>'c.>:,_oi= ToMARTHA '14 mm PAGEs12: . , ' - u~ Ya v; ., ,»* *1 T5" é- S , I 92_;3gI_;, Q. , ;,=~::_,_ _ 92 ,. - - ._ .... >. . ' . -. . _ .- __.- IL-_,.._._,',. --' »-.,» __-. _-_v'..> - .< L,_;;3___ Q PAGE SEVEN . IND ALFREDSTERN, ESTHERRAND AND POSSIBLE THENARTINS, ALSO CONCERNING SOBLEASPOSSIBLE FUTUREUSEFULNESS THE TO SOVIETS,SOBLE TOLD THENOF THEFACTORY VERBERIEIN ANDHIS DESIRETO PURCHASEIT FRON HIS BROTHER. FODOTOV PROPOSED GIVING SOBLE TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THIS AND ZUDILIN ODJECTED SAYING THE NONEY WOULD BE PAID IN FRANCE.ON RETURNTO PARISVIA VIENNAAND PRAGUESOBLE AGAINNET ALBAN. -SOBLESTATED HEDID NOTKNON UHATALBAN~S ASSIGNMENTSWERE AT THATTINE BUTSAID THATTHE SOVIETSTHROUGHT-KOUZNETSOV " INSTRUCTED TO PROCEED TO THE US. ALBAN PROCEEDED TOTHE US AND SOBEL NET EHN IN LATE FORTYSEVENIN US. SODLE RELATEDTHAT ALBANHAD TOLD HIN THATHE HADRETURNED TO_ S IN FORTYSIXVIA A RUSSIANPLANE WHICH HAS LANDED IN PARIS AND ALBAN WAS SNUGCLED FROHTHE PLANE, INASNUCH AS ALBANSPOKE FRENCH WELL ANDARRANGED FORFRENCH PAPERS. SOBLE DENIED THAT HE HAD ASSIGNMENTTO GET UIFE IN US FOR ALBAN BUT ADNITTED THAT HEHAD CONTACTEDALICE MARTINAND RAND IN EFFORT TO GET WIFEFOR . ALBAN. ALBANIN FORTYEIGHTRETURNED TO PARIS AFTER MARRIAGEAND SOBLE PET HIM THERE. SOBLE CLAIMED HEDID NOT KNOU.RELATIONS OFALBAN WITH IQUZNETSOV THOUGHSOBLE ADNITTEDKOUZNETSOV SOVIET CONTACTAT SANE TINE. SOBLE CLAINEDTHAT HEDID NOT HNON ASSIGNMENTOF ALBAN FOR . / . . . ~ ' . . !!£}£; ¬gk;:>, PAGE EIGHT FROM ALBAMIN THE US HASSTATEMENT BY ALBAN CONCERNINGUNSUCCESSFUL HIS VENTURE INTOPLASTICS INDUSTRYANDI = HIS LIVING STATUSHERE. DATEOF THIS I. Qt . REPORT HAS PROBABLY FORTYNINE.ALBAN ATSAME TIME ASKED SOVIETS TO~AS STATUS OFALBAM-S. NIFEAND DAUGHTERSTILL 0RESIDINGIN SOVIETUNION. ll " . SOB E CLAIMEDHE DIDNOT OBTAINFROM SOVIETSASSIGNMENT ALBAMFOR INUS , YET HAS INSTRUCTEDTO MAKE FINANCIAL PAYMENTSTO ALBAM. SOBLE SAIDALBHI IND AD INus, on: To wnomPAID ALBAN GUI TOLD HIM OF THO SOVIET CONTAC F ~ THOUSAND DOLLARSAND THE OTHER INRELATION TOALBAM"S PROJECTED" VENTURESTATIONARY IN STORE.SOBLE CLAIMEDALBAN NASMOST SECRETIVE zvzu uzrnSOBLE ANDSOBLE DIDmo? LEARNDETAILS DFTALBAN-SCONTACTS on ASSIGFHT T IN FIFTY MEETINGIN VIENNA HITH PETROV,PETROV INSTRUCTED 1I - ' SOBLE THATALBAN HASBEING OVERPAIDAND TOREDUCE PAYMENTSTO HIM. SOBLE STATEDTHAT AFTER ARREST SOBLES OF ALBAN AND NET HE ALBAMIN COURT APPEARANCESAND ALBAM STATED THATDOCUMENT HAD HE GIVENTO MORROS~ NAS HIS DOCUMENTBUT HENOULD DENYAUTHORSHIP. ALBAMTOLD SOBLETHAT HE * UOULD SAY THATTHE "A"MENTIONED DOCUMENT IN 7NHICHREFERRED ABRASHA? TO H -v qr - ' ; JACK SOBLE/HAS ABELIEN,A PERSON ALBAN KNEWIN FRANCE, NHO HASNON ~ DECEASED. "ALBAMTOLD SOBLEHE H I THE DOCUMENT COPYIN POSSESSf _ _ __ v9264 ~. ~_____ ; V _ ,______;_;.-_,I.....,.::I;.:,_T I A - 1;? PAGE NINE / ALBAN¢ SOBLE STATED THAT ALBAN WAS VERY TALENTED TECHN- ICALLT INCLUDING PHOTOGRAPHY AND ALBAN HAD MENTIONED THE FACILITY SOV .1- IETS HAD IN MAKING FALSE PASSPORTS AND NAY WORKED IN SUCH DEPT IN NOS£_ CON. CONCERNING ILYA NOLSTON, SOBLE NENTIONED THAT WHILE HE HAS IN . S TDSCOU IN THIRTIES, HE CONTINUALLY RECEIVED LETTERS FRON ILYA NOLSTON A INDICATING DESIRE OF NOLSTON TO CONE TO RUSSIA BUT THIS HAD NEVER BEEN 92 EFFECTEDO IN DISCUSSION ILYA NOLSTON AND ROBERT SOBLE, JACK BECANE 1! ' INOTIONAL AND HESITATED FOR LONG PERIODS OF TINE BEFORE ANSWERING THE QUESTION OR DIVERTED TO OTHER SUBJECTS. NITH RELATION TO ROBERT SOBLE . JACK STATED THAT ROBERT HAS NORE DEEPLT INVOLVED THAN JACK AND THAT IF ROBERT SOBLE DID NOT NAKE FULL DISCLOSURE OF HIS ACTIVITIES, JACK NOU DO SO. JACK SOBLE ALSO NENTIONED THAT CHOUNDENKO IN FORTYFIVE ARRANGEDM I 1 ' ~ - PEETING IN NY WITH INDIVIDUAL SUBJ CLAINS HE DOES NOT KNOW. CHOUNDENKO no DESCRIBED THIS SOVIET As AN IMPORTANT PERSONALITY. SOBLE NET THIS INDIV IDUALAT A MEETING PREARRANGED on RIVERSIDE DRIVE; NY, AND AGREED TO I FEET HIM IN WASH, nc. SOBLE CLAIMED THAT HE AVOIDED NASH, DC MEETING on FIRSTSCHEDULED DATE§_BuT wAs BOTHERED BY CHOUNDEHKO To MAKE SECOND MEET 1 ING. AT NEETING IN NASH, DC, SOBLE WAS PROPOSITIONED TO OPERATING A DRESSAND FASHION STORE EOR NHICH SOVIETS WERE TO ADVANCE THREE HUNDRED THOUSANDEDOLLARS." SOBLE{OBJECTED THAT HE COULD NOT ACCOUNT FOR THREE 1 _ .. 1 . nanI~ HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO FINANCE THIS VENTURE- SOBLE IN RELATION TO . _ . THIS NEETING STATED THAT HE HAS ALSO PROPOSITIONED TO TAKE CHARGE OF A E , DVD PAGE NINE T . 4 92A 1 '~. 92"" ""_"' #4 '.|-l.~. ,_..'4 .4. , .-V 1. 1.1 -.'.-. ...,.~. A ' -, 4.- '_ * / ~s">-w~:T» ~_ 8 ggizg ¬;%?> _ J .1 . 'F PAGE TEN SOVIET GROUPIN WASH WHICH WASOPERATED BYTHE INDIVIDUAL HE NET. ' I I DESCRIPTION OF THIS INDIVIDUAL GIVEN BY SOBLE AND NAY POSSIBLY BE , .>- .03- 7.1 ANATOLI GRONOVOR GRONOVASSOCIATE. SOBLE ALSO NENTIONED THAT ESTHER v., I I . RANQ HADGIVEN HINWRITTEN REPORTSRELATING TO HER WORK-AT UNITED JENISH APPEALAND STATEDTHAT'ESTHERiHAD CONTACT SOVIETPRIOR TO SOBLE. ' ll INTERVIEW WAS TERNINATED ON FOUR TWELVEWHEN SOBLECLAIMED PHYSICAL AND FENTAL STRAIN PREVENTED HIN FRON CONTINUING. SOBLE EXPRESSEDCONCERN S cvnn THESTATUS OFfHISsou, LARR;INASMUCH Ks'LARRYIS PRESENTLY RES: .1 IDING WITHROBERT AND*DINA SOBLEéAT AGENT SINSISTENCE, SOBLE JACK . STATED HEWOULD DEFINITELYDISCLUSE onFOUR THIRTEENNEXT, INFOIN HIS; POSSESSION CONCERNINGROBERT SOBLE. INTERVIEWS OF SOBLE CONTINUING ON 92 a ' ' FOUR THIRTEEN NEXT AND AS OFTEN ASPRISON ROUTINEAND SOBLEjS CONDITION > PNKESIT POSSIBLE. PURSUANT BUREAU TOAUTHORIZATION RECEIVED PHOF FOUR TWELVE,AUSA GILCHRISTWAS ADVISEDON LATE AFTERNOONFOUR TWELVE _ THAT JACK SOBLE DURING INTERVIEWS ADVISED THAT ALBAN HAD ADNITTED TO SOBLE ALBAN WAS AUTHOR OF LETTER TO NORROS. THAT ALBAN TOLD SOBLE THAT ALBAN HAD MADE UP A STORY CONCERNING THIS LETTER TO BE USED IF ALBAN HAD TO TESTIFY CONCERNING THE LETTER. THAT JACK SOBLE STATED ALBAN HAD 0 OTHER SOVIET PRINCIPAL IN us AND THAT JACK SOBLE WOULDDISCLOSE DETAILS CONCERNING ROBERT SOBLE IF ROBERT SOBLE DOES NOT FURNISH THIS INFO. . ' I 1 n ALSO THAT ROBERT SOBLE,ACCORDING TO JACK, WAS MORE DEEPLY INVOLVEDIN SOVIET ACTIVITIES THAN JACK. LA, SF, WFO SDVISED BY NAIL. I 921 - - "1 .1 .._-.._J ._.._.-.1 - .._ ._,__,- _ -_ _~ we ,~_-, BID AND ACK NY R 1 NA ELR I .1; 92 :1 I THIS IS 27 , . , _ I5: . , ~..,.,_»-7...¢ ,.1,v...,¢»§~;;_if-.<~,-¢~-+-=-»-.»;§.~~';~»_-;».,..,:f..4 , - »., ,y._.._,» .:>.....;92.I.. uu>-:;>...... -..t'z ' T*"~~},__,,,,,,___;__W -~- P-'~ ~Y ~ ~ _~~ ~ -- -W.--,__é_; Y r _...~ ...._ , .- . - _ _ _v _-4 _ ..~,. ,_~__> 1. ___ _ ~ O A GENT "12" "51 PM FJ" ALLmF0RMA§W-coNTA:rv£0 To »1m:c+@R'1¢" I z:REm as UNCLASSIFIED I- ROMYomc um-1 2P 3AIE.%l§15§_9Y§.EZlM&9/QR. JACK SOBLE,ESP R. MYRASOBLE_INTERVIEWED TEN ONE TO TWO TENPM, ISTANT DATE. INTERVIEN LIMITEDDUE TOUNSCHEDULED MEDICALEXAM 92 ORDEREDu§A, BY smw. MYRA FAILEDPOSITIVEERECOGNITION OF A.PHOTO -, 92, M. KOROTKOV.~ NON STATES MET KOROTKOVDURING NINETEEN FORTYEIGHT AT GENEVA. PHOTOSon mmzs or ANATOLIB. caor-zov,SOVIET cousuuuzOFFICIAL, NY, NINETEENFORTYFIVE, JOHANNABECKER, HDR. '!RST_WOLI- GANG BAERENSPRUNG - ' ~ 92n AND HANSE. HIRSCHFELD NOT RECOGNIZED.ARTIST COMPOSITEPHOTOS OF AND NAMESOF "EILL AND CATHERINE NOT FAMILIAR. NAMES MILDREDOR GLADYS NOT FAMILIAR.MYRA ADMITTEDQKNOWINGJACOB ALBAMIN MOSCOWDURING THIRTIES, NEXTSEEN IN.NY,NINETEEN FORTYSEVEN.SHE "UNDERSTOOD" REASON . - . . -. . -. FOR PRESENCEIN US. KNEWOF ALBAM S PLAN TO BUY STATIONERY STORE AND '1 .- 1 - USE IT FOR COVER FOR SOVIETESPIONAGE. SHE "UNDERSTOOD" PURCHASE TO BEMADE WITHSOVIET FUNDS.ADMITTED PAYMENTTO ALBAM, NINETEEN 92 0 ~ FORTYSEVENOF FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARSCANNOT RECALLOTHER PAYMENTSBUT MAY HAVE MADE SOME ORIF RECEIPT OBTAINED. KNEW ALBAM'S COVERNAME AS BELOV. KNEWPAYMENTS ALBAM TO w1:m:oiiw OFsovxm" Iiuwns} ASALBAM no . mu PAGE ONE.... I . -no. 4%-.»/i_4;¢é-/:/ 7 0 .»'92nn/ L A Tl !/'u* - s'i¢'}E- »I"<'3"/ ' _ ' I Y YQFZILFZPST5" "Q'f' 3'61 "!">.$YN *f- - -- ~- » »-- ~- ~ A -%___ _ ._____i___A______',___,,_,__;_.__ _U _:__~;;, .-.f;'_ _:-:_>;-_7J>~__.:_' -».'- .'__- z . _ spAGE Two... xv! 92é g IND NoOTHER SOURCEor 1NcoNE. DENIED INTRODUCINGESfK§RfE§Q JACK . ,, HEB TO ALBAM¢ DOES NOT KNOW IF ALBAM MET ALFRED AND MARTHA STERN_ OR JANEAND GEORGEZLATOVSKI. REITERATED STORY OFSOBLE-S FATHERIN CANADA GIVINGJACK FOURTEENTHOUSAND DOLLARS, TEN OFWHICH FOR JACK AND" FOUR FORMYRA. MONEY THEN BROUGHTTO US BY ZUBILIN. STATED THE. PROFESSORJACK GAVE FOUR TO FIVETHOUSAND DOLLARSTO INVEST IN THE , . CAFETERIA¢ MYRA REPEATED STORY THAT ONLY PERSON WHO REFUSED TO SIGN RECEIPT FORMONEY ANDREFUSED MONEYWAS JAMES MARTIN. DURINGJULY TUNETEEN FIFTY,NY FILES REFLECT MARTINATTENDED UNIVERSITYOF PENN» ABOUT NINETEENTHIRTYONE TOTHIRTYFOUR. ON JULY TEN FIFTYTWO,SOBLE TOLD MORROS THAT HE SENT MYRA MONEY TO GIVE TO A FINE BOY WHO WAS A YALE GRADUATE,AND WHOMYRA METIN A BAR, AND WHEN SHE REQUESTED A I RECEIPT, RETURNEDTHE MONEYAND REQUESTEDHER NOT TO CALL ON HIM AGAIN- DENIED KNOWINGOF CONTACT WHO WASCHAUFFEUR US AT EMBASSY, PARIS ANDn WHO WAS MARRIED TODAUGHTER OFMICHEL-S /ROUBINOWITZ/LANDLADY. ALSO DENIED KNOUINGOF oNE "PAUL", A CHAUFFEURAT usEMBASSY, PARIS:INTER- ~ -u -» . .. , , VIEW TO BE CONTINUEDAPRIL THIRTEEN NEXT. ON APRIL TWELFTHFIFTYSEVEN MYRA ADVISEDSHE HADNOT SLEPT AND WASSLIGHTLY ILL. COPY SENTTO LOSANGELES, SANFRANCISCO ANDWFO BYMAIL. If END // WA NY R 15 WA CB TU DISC PLS M -Q 1 _ . ' > ' _ ".3-' . : ' - -I% ' < / i . I, -' .1 .__...... ,...... - .._.~.- .. >>>-' -1 ~ <--~-<~ _._ ._ ,__..-. -,'. .- A ~.._ 92- -I H A _..=. »- _ _6 !;:!'_ Igglt! A iiL£ DRm&= tu i hn HERHN ISUNCusSSlFlEQ 0ATE_2~1§1.§§'_BY§£1le.49£.lQ.B URGENT 4-13-57 Z11-47 PM AGE 4! DIRECTOR . ~ FROM SAC NEW YORK 6 P JACK SOBLE, WAS ET AL- PAREN MOCASE PAREN . MYRA SOBLE INTERVIEWED FOUR THIRTEEN INSTANT, WOMEN-S HOUSE OF DETENTION, NYC. STATED PHOTO- r I GRAPH OF CHOUNDENKO BEARSRESEMBLANCE TOTHE QUOTE PROFESSOR UNQUOTE, BUT SHE COULD NOT POSITIVELY IDENTIFY IT. PHOTOGRAPH OF KOROTKOV ALSO NOT POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED. STATED SHE_NEVER KNEWIF ALBAM KNEW ILYA WOLSTON. KNEW ALBAM COVER NAME AS BELOV, TOLD TO HER BY JACK SOBLE. JACK ALSO TOLD HER ILYA WAS KNOWN ASSLAVA. JANE ZLATOVSKI TOLD MYRA HER COVER NAME WAS SLANG. GEORGE ZLATOVSKI TOLD MYRA HIS COVER NAME WAS RECTOR. STATED DID NOT KNOW COVER NAME FOR DR. SOBLE NOR OF HIS ACTIVITIES. STATEDTHAT DR. SOBLE WASINTRODUCED ZUBILIN TO BYJACKR SOBLE AT ZUBILIN-S REQUEST. MYRA ADVISED WAS PRESENT AT MEETING WITH ~ DR. SOBLE, JACK SOBLE, ZUBILIN, WHICH TOOK PLACE IN A GREENWICH VILLAG 1 NIGHT CLUB BELIEVED TO BE THE VILLAGE BARN. MYRA STATED MET ZUBILIN A 4 END PAGEowz ;,/, V , WA T,_- , '_ __/ TITK!?Ji§}é" .%i. _$';4;" _._,_A _ _ . . . _ . ...... I _ _ I _ ._,,:._:__~'U"~_ . : 4,, 1 . '' _._ - . - _ _ _ ...... _ -_.- .. ._._.._.~--_ ; 7-. ~.._~..v. ~ A »¢._..__.__ . 1 -#~4~'n _._.__...._..---» ._ .92V . _ 5 I 0&4 r><' / ONLY THREE TIMES AND THAT HE WAS ALWAYSDRUNK. MYRA WAS PRESENTAT 0 TIME ALEXANDER ELIAS MET ZUBILIN IN NEW YORKNINETEEN FORTY THREE WHEI ELIAS, ZUBILIN, JACK ANDMYRA HADDINNER INSHIP AHOYRESTAURANT, BRO; WAY AND SIXTY STREET, NEW YORK. SHE REMEMBERSTHIS MEETING FOR AFTER DINNER SHE BECAME VERYSICK FROM FOOD AND DRINK. NEXT MET ZUBILIN- SHORTLY BEFOREZUBILIN DEPARTED US. ZUBILIN AND WIFE UNEXPECTEDLY CAME TOSOBLE RESIDENCEON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON,JACK WASIN BED WITH LEG TROUBLE.ZUBILIN STAYEDABOUT AHALF HOUR,ALLEGEDLY TOSAY GOODBYE, BUT MYRA BELIEVES THEY WERE CHECKING ON JACK TO SEE IF HE WERE FAKING.JACK WASTAKING MEDICALTREATMENTS A FROM DR.POLLACK O] CENTRAL PARKWEST, NYC. MYRA DOESNOT KNOWCOVER NAMESFOR;MARTIN§ O} RANDS. MYRA NEVER METZBOROWSKI BUTKNEW FROMJACK HE WAS REPORTING o TO JACKON TROTSKYITES.ZBOROWSKI THENLIVED IN BRONX, NY.ABOUT n NINETEEN FORTYTHREE DASHFORTY FOURMYRA KNEWFROM JACKTHAT A WOMAN HAD ANAPARTMENT, PAIDRENT BY RUSSIANS ANDBY SOBLE, WHERE JACKNET END PAGE TWO . V '- I I I. 4 I I ' . - , -- , r4 < I- 1 ' - v ..'<'."< ... i,»'- -, - -"'7'? ~."" . . . ; ..I - _ O 1-/',"" _""~'/ . 1 1-5?-1'1-'' - -- ~'/ 95'-'5 ;'7;7.7_Yf,/'f.f;7;,'?§,:'.;?Z'.: t/ ~;.'/.-5'5"-9. ."-.- J-"1 ' .'- /,- 99. ,/~' ..E .. 3./'5 @%57»-$Z"~""_1-.117: _ I I / / _' . . _ [H f HIJIL ;_, ,, ._./.,>,_/,. '.,,:_,_fi/4,.,:,_ T . A I '' V -H, I- , . , » - , I've . _,_ , ,,_, _.__._:._._.'__* ,5,5 »._...: .._._§_ - ,, ,.-; '1. -', ~',-.. 92./ 3 ' I S 3 92 PAGE THREE la A GIRLKNOWN SOFIE A FROMWHOM RECEIVED HE REPORTS.SOFIE WANTEDTO QU THE MOVEMENTAS SHE WAS SUFFERINGFROM NERVOUSBREAKDOWN WANTED AND T6 .~ a. O REJOIN HERFAMILY INCHICAGO. MYRALATER LEARNEDFROM JACKTHAT I SOFIE WASALSO KNOWNAS SYLVIA. PAREN MYRAON FOUR DASH TWELVEDASH¥f / S FIFTY SEVENDID NOTRECOGNIZE PHOTOO ORNAME OF,SYLVIACALLEN DOXSEE.Y' Q MYRA TOBE PRESSEDFOR MOREDETAILS RE SYLVIA. MYRA UNFAMILIARWITH T CODE NAMEFOR ALFREDAND MARTHASTERN. MYRASTATED STERNGAVE JACKQ ABOUT FOURTHOUSAND DOLLARSAS A GIFT SHORTLY AFTERFAILURE OFBORIS ' MORROS MUSICCOMPANY. DURINGEARLY FORTIESSTERN VISITEDJACK ANDMYRA C/ AT RESIDENCE,BROUGHT JCHEMISTRY As SET ANDA BOOK I OF RUSSIANFAIRY TALES._MYRA BELIEVESBOOKSTILL AMONG POSSESSIONS NOW IN STORAGE.NYO WILL ENDEAVOR TO OBTAINIT. CHRISTMAS,NINETEEN FORTY 4'u FIVE, STERNGAVE JACKA DOZEN HANDKERCHIEFS SOME AND CHEAP PINS. BELIEI SHE MAYHAVE THESEPINS PARENCOSTUME JEWELRYPAREN STATED . STERN WRO? DURING NINETEENFIFTY SIXFROM MEXICOTHAT HECOULD NOTSEND MONEY. HE ALSOWROTE DURINGFIFTY SIXFROM CALIFORNIAABOUT VISITINGHIS DYING DAUGHTER. MYRADOES NOTKNOW DISPOSITIONOF LETTERS.. MYRA RECALLSTHAT END PAGE ;THREE _ Q /['~/"'1" / / />I / A f 0 /I /*"§'f'1'/-'-"<4 .'11 1 . - __ __ V _ __ , __ , I__ .;._ I-_..,-.,_.'~I-,=,,,».I_,~, :'.I-:_~_',i. _-.'.._ .'.-I-"- F__-.'~..<..__.92..;...<...-_~.. ---- -- I I ' - ~ A In 92 ;4@§MR§$R , . ~; -.:~ r: ~-_ 112; in -.+?§é I Q PAGE FoUR I*" * ?E?£?5§N¥? ' ' ,1 JAcK wENTTo cALIFoRNIA To sETTLE THE EoRIsMoRRos MUsIcUQMPANT BUSINESS UITRsTERN. sTERN AND SOBLEsTAYED INsAME HOTEL 'TRAvELLEDHOLLYWOOD To DAY A AFTER soBLE DID,AND ALLALLEREDL Y I . . . RETURNEDNEW To YORKWITH BORIS MoRRos, REGARDINGNINETEEN~FIETY; 'MEETINGWITH MARTIN, MYRA ADvIsEDTHAT ATTHIS TIME PURsUANT To . 1 INSTRUCTIONSTHAT PRIoR oo COMINGT0 EUROPE,AUGUST, NINETEENTFI SHE CONTACTEDCERTAIN THREE INDIVIDUAL$ INCLUDING MARTINTO OBT REP0RTs. MYRAADvIsED UENTTo cANADA JULY NINETEENFIFTY, ToER LARRY, HOMEWITH HER,AND URILEIN cANADA,coNTAcTED MENDELLADsRY ALEXANDER ELIASFoR REPORTS.:NEITRER HADANY INFoRMATIoNTo FURNI No MQNEYWAS PAIDTo THEM. MYRA NoTFAMILIAR URATTYPE INFo AND ELIAscoULD FuRNIsR._MENDEL LADSKYKNOWN MYRA T0 AsMENDUSR ELIAS KNOWNAS SACHA.- LADSKY KNOWNT0 MYRA IN BERLIN,GERMANY, .. 92 ' coMMUNIsTHE As BROUGHTHER T0GERMAN cP,MEETINcs. LADSKY, AT= .>~ UAs woRKINcFoR RANDELsDoRTRETUNcPAREN PHCLO$E PAREN.TRIs ATIoN coMPARAELE To AMTORG, U.s. MYRA ADvIsED LADSKY AND JACK WERE MEMEERsGERMAN cP,BUT EEcAMETROTSKYITES ANDEXPELLED FRoMP RUT LATERBEcAME ENcAcEDIN sovIET EsPIoNAcE%REPoRTINcTRo oN MYRA LEFTBERLIN INSUMMVT "w" ~" r' I ' b __"" ; ER oF NINETEENTHIRTY oNE FoR Moscow,URERE F" _ JOINED HER NINETEEN THIRTY THREE. FROM NINETEENTHIRTY THREE O _';~"-4! .~~- ='.1 r1'?' END PAGEFOUR f x >1}:-=5 MR - '= ._-._~.I.- A . . '. ' , - . - 4 / - - -. . - 4 . ~ 4 - ~%-¢_-.4_.-_.<_.-_-.:.___=-_;E ..___. '.~ _._ >~__-1 . .-_¢_'__,4_-. ~ ,.__ I I 92 - »;I - V», .. .__C___.__T_-_~ _-.=.~:-__.-_<_~-;-1.;~-~<.=_ _. , ~.4< _ I-. -.1. . '< _ PAGE FIVE NINETEEN FORTY,THEY REMAINEDIN MOSCOW, WHERE JACK WAS EMPLOYEDAS JOURNALIST. MYRA,WHILE BRIEFLYDISCUSSING STERN,STATED THATJANE ZLATOVSKI TOLDMYRA THATMARTHA STERNHAD INTRODUCEDJANE TOA NEGRO~ WITH WHOM JANE HADAN AFFAIR.LATER, MARTHATOLD GEORGEZLATOVSKI OF JANES ASSOCIATIONWITH THIS NEGRO. JANEDID NOTTEL MYRANAME, BUT STATEDWAS HEA TALL, HANDSOME, DASH LIGHT COLORED NEGRO, PROBABLY-AND A_ WRITER.MYRA LEARNEDFROM ALBAMTHAT ALBAMHAD BEENSMUGGLED INTO FRANCE ORGERMANY NINETEENIN FORTY FIVE OR EARLYNINETEEN FORTYSIX¢¥ MYRA AGREESTO PREPARE OWN BIOGRAPHYOF PERSONAL HISTORY ANDACTIVITIES THIS WILLBE PREPAREDUNDER SECURECONDITIONS SONO ONE,INCLUDING THE WARDEN, SEEWILL CONTENTSQ MYRA HASREQUESTED ATTORNEYWOLF ARRANGETO VISIT WITHJACK NEXTWEEK. DURINGINTERVIEW FORENOONAND AFTERNOON FOI THIRTEEN MYRAFREQUENTLY EXPRESSEDBEING FATIGUED.MYRA GIVENPHYSICAT EXAM FOURDASH TWELVEDASH FIFTY SEVEN WHICH INCLUDEDELECTRO CARDIO- GRAPH. RESULTSOF EXAMINATIONNOT YETAVAILABLE. MYRAREFUSED TOBE 92 INTERVIEWEDFOUR ON DASHFOURTEEN DASHFIFTY SEVENCLAIMING URGENTNEE] END PAGEFIVE 92 - », '. _ ~ / > . . "" ~- - ~ . -_ _ -_ _. ~ ' Q0 '5-'~mn §0 *' A~»_.,-»-~ *"" ~"" ~, ..>_@_- - PAGE SIX FOR REST.MYRA TOBE INTERVIEWEDAM FOUR DASH FIFTEENDASH FIFTY SEVI AT WHICHTIME SHEWILL BEPRESSED COMPLETE FOR DETAILSON ALLMATTERS %%¥ COVEREDPRIOR IN INTERVIEWS-IT HAS BEEN NOTED THAT MYRAHAS FURNISH: *>92-92- SOME INFORELUCTANTLY MAY AND BEPURPOSELY VAGUEOTHER MATTERS.* 0 --1,;-_, . HOLD PLS I " " . ' "'' "" ' .' ' /"'<"",'"-'-/V ' /~,:~/1.~. //-,5 .-aw. I .0-'4 ' - ~' . T./,. -A- ~*-'"'-'- " . - -. _. _ .3.- _ J. __ _ _ ~ , . _ , __ __ ._.,__,_~.______ __.__ -_-; ,,__-_.__.5 -__ -L-1---_;--1-A-92.|- '' :;* >-1* 'k!'4 -¢- -» ~ -> >;' = :_-_ _ ~ =~-' ~ - - - ~ " URGENT 4-14-57 1-lspmsm AM TO DIRECTOR FROM SAC NEW YORK 8P JACK SOBLE,ESP DASHR. RENYTELAPRIL TWELVE_LAST.JACK SOBLE INTERVIEWEDMORNING ANDAFTERNOON APRILTHIRTEEN - ATFEDERAL CORRECTIONALINSTITUTION, DANBURY,com. - _ PRISION PHYSICIAN, ADVISED THAT PHYSICAL EXAMINATION OF SOBLEBY DR.MC DERNOTTON EVENING,APRIL TWELVE, INDICATED NOTHINGPHYSICALLY WRONGWITH SOBLE,AND SOBLE-S CLAIM OF CHEST PAINSWHICH HE COMPLAINED ABOUT ONARRIVAL AT PRISON ARE PROBABLYPSYCHOSOMATIC ANDATTRIBUTABLE TO SOBLE-S MENTALCONDITION. MENTIONEDTHAT THERE HAD BEENGRUMBLING OTHER BY PRISONERSABOUT SOBLE,MAINLY ON GROUNDTHAT HE WASA QUOTE SQUEALER ENQUOTE,BUT NO THREATS HAVEBEEN MADEAGAINST SOBLETHOUGH PRISONERSHAD DESTROYEDA COPY OF QUOTENEW YORKTIMES ENQUOTEWHEN LEARNEDTHAT HE DESIRED TOREAD IT. RE JACOB ALBAH, SOBLE L AGE om; " ¢...= L T M» 51; 1?92*%0HM;a?§i ; -5cgrmr mzzw UNIS §%J1.SSIFiED , T! QYSE-'Q51 pg I ' /1 ~' /£13 I < . 5."?/C q ~ T . , . 1», A w- ~ V Y.-~ -p.B,_.-"; = -%~"@.1Ui Wf-§n~ - - - '> _ -I<7';-.=..;:_.__;_;.'._-_..4~:.-»- WI . . @133 1137 1 PAGE THO ' ~ STATED THATWHEN ALBAMAPPLIED FORUS VISA HE ASKED SOBLE O TO FURNISHHIM ADDRESSTHATHE COULD GIVE ASADDRESS WHERE /A/ 3' HE WAS DURING WORLDUAR.TWO. SOBLEGAVE HIMTHE ADDRESS OF EILENBURGERTUENTYONE, STRASSE TAUCHA,BEI, LEIPZIG, ALBAMTH 0 DDRESS GOODAS COULD NOT BE CHECKEDIN AS SOVIET TERRITORY. SOBLESTATED THATHE TOLD 4 ALBAM ILYAUOLSTON IN HAS BERLIN, GERMANY, WORKINGAS A TRANSLATOR FORUS GOVERI T AND THAT WOLSTONHAS GIVING INFORMATION CONCERNINGHIS WORKTO SOBLE. SOBLE BELIEVED_ 1 ALBAM ANDHOLSTON IN NET PARIS HHEN UOLSTON TOCANE PARIS TO GET MARRIEDIN NOVEMBER, NINETEEN FORTYEIGHT.SOBLE CLAIMED HE ONLYMET UOLSTONTHREE TIME PE AT PARIS, COLOGNE AND NICE. EOLSTON FURNISHEDHIM HIT ".<»-Q4. . OF NAMES ¢ OF PERSONSUITHEHOH HOLSTONLUORHED IN US GOVERNHENT IX EERLIN. ALSOWITH NAMESOF PERSUHS EHO QIE ATTENDING A SCHOOL FORADHINISTRATORS THOUOULD BE IE USDASH SOVIETEAR BROKEOUT. SOBLECLAIMED UNABLETO RECALL MAKESGIVEN BYHOLSTOH THESE PERSONSBUT HERE ANTI CUPATION WORK DASH COMMUNIST AN . , . . ._-. .1 - ..._ .'...|..92 .... _ -.. , a.-.<..-.__.;__;._.._._:-___.._.._._..- _ . ' .._.__.. " 3 r - .92_ '9 PAGE THREE" _ . __ ._ _» _ ,- » HOLSTOH ATCAN? RITCHIE, HARYLAND, EHEREHOLSTON STATIONED IN ARMY. THIS INFO GIVEN BY SOBLE TO CHALIAPIN. ALSO ON »>_/'. RETURN FROMALASKA, 9/HQ _ SEALED PACKAGE HHICH SOBLE PROHPTLYTURNED OVERTO CHOUNDENHO-SOBLE CLAIMSHE 9 DOES NOT KNOH HHAT PACKAGE CONTAINED. STATED CHOUNDENKO LATER TOLD SOBLE IT HAS UORTHLESS- UOLSTON ALSOTOLD SOBLE THAT CHALIAPIN CONTACTED HIM IN SAN FRANCISCO I HOLSTON AT UN CONFERENCE IN NINETEEN FORTYFIVE. UOLSTON TOLD - SOBLE THAT CHALIAPIN HAD RENEW LSTON-S NAME FROM MATERIAL RECEIVED FROM SOBLE. SOBLE CLAIMED HE DOES NOT Q.n -4,;-_ . TO ALBAH IN US UHICH HAS SENT FROH u ETHER WOLSTOJ FURNISHED INFO TO CHALIAPIN ON THAT OCCASION. SODLE CLAIMED HE PAID NO HONEY TO ALBAH IN FRANCE AS THERE ALBAN RECEIVED HONEY FROM KOUSNETZOU. SOBLE RELATED HE PAID ALBAH THO HUN LLARS IN US AND OT PAYMANTS TOTALINGFOUR THOUSANDDOLLARS, THOUGHALBAH .. ., _ .4_<..._;E ____L_ _- i ' I - . .92>I g, x V 92/92, PAGE FOUR TO ALBAM MAS IN NEH YORK IN NINETEEN FIFTY AND AMOUNTED TO THREE HUNDRED ORFOUR HUNDREDDOLLARS. SOBLE STATED H QED ALBAM S CODENAME, BELOVO,FROM KOUSNETZOVIN PARIS. ALBAI ROM SOBLE ABOUT THE ZLATOVSKIS AND SOBLE-S PLANTO GET JOB FOR GEORGE WITHMARSHALL PLAN. ALBAM ALSOxwzw THAT ESTHER RAND ANDALICE MARTIN WERE COMMUNISTS AND§R§NQ&ANDKMARTINWORKED FORSOBLE IN THE MOVEMENT. SOBLE STATED THAT SOMEBODY IN THE STATIONERY / . STORE, PRIORTO ALBAM S ASSIGNMENT TOPURCHASE STATIONERY / STORE, HADWORKED FORSOVIETS. RE ROBERT SOBLE. SHORTLY / AFTER COMINGTO NEH YORK, JACK SOBLE WASREQUESTED BYZUBILIN TO INTRODUCE ROBERT TO ZUBILIN STATING ROBERT SOBLE HAD AGREED TOWORK FORSOVIETS BEFOREBEING PERMITTED TO LEAVE LITHUANIA, WHICH JACK SOBLE KNEHTO BE TRUE. ZUBILIN TURNED OVER ROBERTTO LIZA ZUBILIN. JACK CLAIMED THAT ROBERT-S JAS SEPARATE FROM HIS, BUT HE KNEW ROBERT OBTAINED INFORMATION FROMTHE DAUGHTEROF HILHELM KOENEN PARENJOHANNA BECKERPAREN AND SAID THE INFORMATION FURNISHED TO ROBERT WASFROM O.S.S. JACK SOBLE CLAIMED 4 1. . ..-.. ..._.I ...... -~ ~-<-- »---"-~*----~-'- '~ ~» -I --A 9*1 ~....~ ; ~ M3 "3' ._ PAGE FIVE ' SATISFACTORY. JACK CLAIMED HE DID NOT KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY ROBERT RECEIVEDFROM THE SOVIET-S, BUT THOUGHT IT WAS A SMALL AMOUNT. AFTER ZUBILIN-S DEPARTURE ROBERTSOBLE ALSO FOR CHOUNDENKO,BUT HAD VIOLENT DISAGREEMENTSWITH CHOUNDENKO AND,ACCORDING TO JACK, ROBERT BROKEOFF WITH SOVIETS AND HAD NO FURTHER CONTACTS WITH THEM. JACK STATED 92 ROBERT GOT JOB AT UNRRA THROUGH IRVING SOLLINS, WHO JACK CLAIMED WAS PRO DASH SOVIET BUT WAS NOT AGENT FOR RUSSIANS. JACK BELIEVED HE INTRODUCED ROBERT TO STERNS, BUT THEY BROKE UP BECAUSE OF REFUSAL OF ALFRED STERN T0 LOAN ROBERT LARGE SUM OF MONEY. JACK SOBLE STATED INTER DASH AMERICAN PHARMACEUTICAL NOT A COVER COMPANY AND CLAIMS COMPANY BROKE UP OVER REFUSAL OF ALFRED STERN TO ADVANCE MORE MONEY. JACK SAID ROBERT JOINED CP IN NINETEEN TWENTY IN LITHUANIA AND SPOKE AT LARGE COMMUNIST GATHERING IN VILKAVISKIS, LITHUANIA, ON MAY DAY, NINETEEN TWENTYONE. GATHERING TURNED INTO A RIOT AND ROBERT IMPRISONED FOR FIVE MONTHS. RELEASED ON PROMISE OF FATHER THAT HE WOULD GO ABROAD. BOTH JACK AND ROBERT JOINED CP IN GERMANY IN NINETEEN TWENTYONE AT LIEPZIG- ROBERT, WHILE STUDENT, ENGAGGEDIN PROPAGANDAAND WRITING FOR CP. WENTTO MOSCOW IN NINETEEN TWENTYFOUR ORNINETEEN TWENTYFIVE. INNINETEEN TWENTYNINE,ROBERT BECAMETROTSKYITE 'I END PAGEFIVE 3"? _-3". - 27M»- . /- / .~.>}'? /-,- ,».??3.',~,'-£"'»}? 7 . 1 }""" ,';'*;vv_ . .,,.,,,,4 ,._.,,. 1-- »~_~v-,-... : . 1 1 - ...... - - '.. » ,_..*_~ _'_~";' »- ¢ I 92 ti?! PAGE SIX AND WAS EXPELLED FROM CP. JACK CLAIMS LITTLE KNOWLEDGE OF ROBERT-S ACTIVITIES, EXCEPT THATROBERT ARRESTEDIN NINETEEN THIRTYSIX IN SWITZERLAND CARRYING CP PROPAGANDA. IN NINETEEN THIRTYSEVEN WHEN JACK WAS IN PARIS SOVIET AGENT CONTACTED JACK AND LEARNED EXACT LOCATION OF ROBERT IN SPAIN WHERE ROBERT WAS CONNECTEDWITH LOYALISTS. IN SUBSEQUENTCONTACT BYSOVIET AGENT INPARIS ROBERTWAS ASKEDTO REPORTON TROTSKYITES,BUT ROBERT UNSUCCESSFUL. INNINETEEN THIRTYEIGHT ROBERT RETURNED TO LITHUANIA AND WAS THERE WHEN SOVIETS OCCUPIED LITHUANIA IN NINETEEN FORTY. IN RELATION TO TRIP TO US JACK SOBLE CLAIMS THAT H E WAS IN MOSCOWAND WASCALLED TOGPU HEADQUARTERSWHERE TOLD BY BERIA THAT BERIA WAS AWARE OF SOBLE-S DESIRE TO GET FAMILY OUT OF LITHUANIA. TRIP WAS ORGANIZED BY SOVIETS AND INCLUDED SOBLE-S PARENTS, FAMILIES OF JACK AND ROBERT, THE CHAZENS, NANYA WOLSTONAND DAUGHTERANSHELELWITZ, ROZOWSKY, TOKERIS, LADSKY AND ISAAC CHAZEN AND FAMILY AND POSSIBLY OTHERS. SOBLE STATED THAT ALL MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP WERE AWARE OF HOW PERMISSION WAS OBTAINED AND THAT THIS WAS RUSSIAN FAVOR. JACK SAID ROBERT KNEW ESTHER RAND AND ABOUT JACK S uss OF HER AS AGENT. awn PAGE SIX ,-$5 J . ~ 192~ l __,{,;;;*_ _,_,,,~,,/» / ,.~.-3; , . ~ . F ' "'» -1*:,;:' * 7 * T?~"?? ?R ,> »" "'"">*7vv16%" ;j/: _,_f.,,;¢,,_ ,:,',_,., { ;~;" ,N'»,,9_ ,_?:/ya. A.,;,7,::¬Ww5%@_ W; V ' I ' ' A /T . 1l-'~'gf?a §4:7 3Z,* }"* y,@,,v,;7. . V ._ , ,»,_'<,/5;/*2?»/ ;}§1,,»,W,1"»,» ,;" ~~ £g-;,,4, I _ . " . . - I 1 ,..,,.- , ///> ,,>,,,,,,,4;@~?»',W,1, '< ,?l¢t ~';y'%:_-2'» J. , /___,._ y P - '- - , ~¢1,.~ ,»WIT @~-; T1-v1;,92,=.L;v>.1T»;£<>:¢;1,*,'i ~,¢¢ 9% W ,». _;:, /:.?,=;<"*°;¢;;:--7/.;-I »- »* .9 PAGE SEVEN_ I SOBLE CLAIMEDROBERT DIDNOT KNOWOF ALICEMARTIN._ SOBLE CLAIMED STERNNOT INTRODUCEDTO HIM BY ZUBILIN, BUT ZUBILIN INSTRUCTED SOBLETO TELEPHONE STERN. _WHENSOBLE DIDSO HE WAS IMMEDIATELY GREETED BY STERN AND THEY THEREAFTER MET AT STERN-S APARTMENT.KOROTKOV, INNINETEEN FORTYNINE,ADVISED 92 SOBLE THAT STERNS HAD SOVIET CONTACT OTHER THAN SOBLE. SOBLE ADMITTED SOVIETS GAVE HIM ABOUT FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS TO SET UP CAFETERIA. SOBLE IDENTIFIED PHOTO OF ANATOLI GROMOV AS SOVIET AGENT HE MET IN WASHINGTON IN NINETEEN FORTYFIVE WHO WANTED SOBLE TO ESTABLISH DRESS SHOP. CLAIMED DID NOT SEE GROMOV AGAINAFTER REFUSALTO ACCEPTTHIS ASSIGNMENT. CLAIMED FRED BROVERMAN KNEW SOBLE AS A COMMUNIST WHO HAD LIVED IN RUSSIA AND WHO HADOBTAINED SOVIET PERMISSION FOR SOBLE FAMILY TO LEAVE LITHUANIA. SAID LADSKY WAS CP MEMBER SINCE NINETEEN EIGHTEEN. WORKED FOR RUSSIAN TRADE MISSION, BERLIN, AND LATER BROKE WITH CP AND BECAME TROTSKYITE. LADSKY WORKED FOR SOVIETS IN SHANGHAI, BUT SOBLE CLAIMED LADSKY HAD DONE NOTHING FOR SOVIETS IN CANADA. SOBLE AT CONCLUSION OF INTERVIEW APPEARED WORN AND CLAIMED EXHAUSTION AND WAS SLOW IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONING. SOBLE REQUESTED INTERVIEWS BE WITHHELD UNTIL END PAGE SEVEN _ * '" ' §"f'a& 7" '2'L..-.~,,.,'/-V - _:7V ~ Q'yfv_vm¢',-~' /I. .1 " "'W W,--.-,.,t,, .,,,,.,¬,'v _'_ Pg / I. V _ _ 1. _,- ., _ _92 ,7 ._ I . _ _-Au,- ,_-V,-,~_~_~,______-__ I * ' .. ~ - -». "' $3 *3 V PAGE EIGHT ' _ APRIL FIFTEEN NEXT TO PERMIT HIM TO RECALL DETAILS ON WHICH ¢ INTERROGATED..- SOBLE OBVIOUSLY WITHHOLDING INFO AND NOT gk MAKING FULL DISCLOSURE.SOBLE, ATCONCLUSION INTERUIEW OF IN PRESENCE GUARD,OF STATEDHE HADBEEN PROMISEDOPPORTUNITY T0 VISIT WITH HIS WIFE. SOBLE INFORMED THAT THIS MATTER WOULD BE BROUGHT TO ATTENTION OF DEPARTMENTAL OFFICIALS. INTERVIEW on APRIL FIFTEEN WILL CONCERN BANDS,LMARTINSAND / ZBOROWSKI. - END AND ACK 1-Q2 PM OK FBI WA JS TU DISC , A -A 1 A ,-1,1.-...-1 ll Av " ------A ~-- . . _ . .2 -. .. , 1-, - - -. A / <,;'; - . , . . I 40., _* ...L. ..._. _ M .. ..,. 3 L-_,..__...._ ._ ._ . , ._ I . _. ______;l_____ >_____V W "" ' __._,_ _ _ " - ----'---=~-- _ --Iurv-L _ _ _E ______I-._ ..._._ -ivy, L; ..~; Ni?_:%-,4, ." .v@42¢ r 1 v, ._ 4 *92-W ' ". V . -_ "' R. ~ ~v I 9 » . I; > - -.~ T~ V vii . _;'@ .. .. 1".-" -@8:» H.- 0 P __ .- .., .,>, V?_ A_ ,~_,1?!- -~1;, £141? I I =.».@. f92 .6 :§ > W 3-'7-»:, UGENT 4-15-57 9-56 PM FJM .92+&3 E_ . . . _ . ALL |NFURMAI§5§f£§ %CUNTPJNED ' $3 C} T° DIRECT°RY I HEREINUNCLASSIFIED IS '7 %Il*; "1 , .-1-,_ mom NEWYORK 5.P ?!A_TE_Q~[5[ 5 B'Y§.P_1I.t49,§/QB2-; W5 ._~> _1}. , JACK SOBLE,ESP-R. MYRA SOBLE INTERVIENEDAPRIL FIFTEEN INSTANT. ., 1%;,.~ _ a§;»£¬§& STATED BELIEVESJACK SOBLE INSTRUCTED TO HER CONTACT JAMES MARTIN, J1 ~.r; .2? MENDEL LADSKY,AND ALEXANDERELIAS. CALLED MARTIN ATHIS OFFICE AND - ~ F." FADE APPOINTMENTTO MEETMIDTOUN NYCABOUT JULYTWENTYSIX-TNENTYSEVEN, 1%; . . 92,.J; 92 NINETEEN FIFTY,PREPARED TOPAY HIM FIFTY DOLLARSOR ONEHUNDRED » "Sf? DOLLARS. DIDNOT KNOWTYPE INFO~MARTINCOULD FURNISH. MARTIN REFUSED,¥é -S -.92 TO ACCEPTMONEY BECAUSEHE WOULD HAVE TOSIGN RECEIPT:DID NOTKNOW _ -!. 1,36 4: .=. , TYPE INFO LADSKY AND ELIAS COULD FURNISH, DIDNOT OFFER THEM MONEY. - : BELIEVED SOVIETSDESIRED REPORTSIN LADSKY AND ELIAS- HANDWRITING I TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THEM. MYRA DENIED CONTACTINGANYONE ELSESPEC? V ~ IFICALLY DR.ROBERT soBLE','ESTHER RAND,JOHN LOWBEER, 012ALBAM. STATED cl - cl BELIEVED LADSKYSIGNED PAPERFOR SOVIETPRIOR TOLEAVING LITHUANIA. MYRA DENIEDSHE SIGNEDANYTHING, DOESNOT KNOW IF JACK SIGNED. MET ELIAS IN CANADA. BELIEVES ESTHER RANDINTRODUCED TOJACK BY CHALIAPIN. < .. I END PAGE QNE... »¥ v _ . _ -_¢...-rz:'».'~' i . _ F . _ ._ ..-....-.- ....,...I._.....L._- ' L-.1 ~ - mil . , A jL;_-__. ..W__.__. ._ L . 5 B 3 . :v_, . 2' .5 ?y'~ . ~ '/=51- *3: ' S _ ~53. _ .4;_92§,_<454 .- l' ,iJ. ¬,= _ . , ;, _ .;=.:; 92& .~ 1* L :'. :%*?-S" _ . .»7;§ PAGETwo.... ' :@§g§ STATEDNEVER RECEIVED INFO FRON_RAND§HAS NOKNOWLEDGE oF'3Ack ACTIVITY i§§§ 1 ~ . RAND. VISITED ESTHER AT U. J. A. TO PICK UP SCARF AND TWENTY DOLLARS . U 3? ,1- - .sw" '_ ",=.'.?¢-_ ...... 4 SENT TOMYRA BYJACK SOBLEFROM PARISBROUGHT ESTHER BYNINETEEN rig FORTYEIGHT.» STATEDNINETEEN FORTYFOUR KNEW JACKSOBLE HADMAN WORKING ;§L1 :-< w: AMONG TROTSKYITES.LATER MYRALEARNED FROMJACK THISWAS MARK lg? . Mi, . ~¢'-Y" ZBOROWSKI. MYRANEVER NET HIN. STATEDFIRST METILYA WOLSTON ATif MW OSTON, NINETEENFORTYONE, MYRA BUT HADRECEIVED LETTERSWHILE IN §§ . »;: RUSSIA FROM ILYA, NHEREIN HE WROTE ABOUTGETTING VISA TO VISIT RUSSIA. JACK SOBLE TOLDMYRA PRIORTO FORTYEIGHT,ILYA HADCOVER fQ% J -"vi?-4 NAME SLAVA,OF BUTDENIED SHEKNEW HIS OF ACTIVITIESOR INFOFURNISHED Qég '%% TO JACKSOBLE PRIOR TO INTERVIEWOF JACKSOBLE USA, BY SDNY.DOES NOTT%§ - -- * 4. INOU IFALBAN OR DR.' SOBLE KNEW . OF ILYA-SACTIVITIES. STATEDJACK SOBLE3%:3» . ;-92_-~- RECEIVED . STERN-SHONE ADDRESSFROM ZUBILINWITH INSTRUCTIONS_ TO CONTACT i%A *44: STERN,AFTER ZUBILIN DEPARTEDBELIEVES US.SOBLE NET STERNSAT LATTER-S g ,,' Ag. HOME. STATEDBELIEVED BORISHORROS MUSICco., A COVER_ 92t"' COMPANY,A' v1@~ .~¢:.'. .98. BECAUSE ZUBILINARRANGED MEETINGTHE BETWEENSTERN AND NORROS.> §$ . '01; END PAGE TWO... - A ._.. . _ __:._'_ ._ :7 ;."..- Q 0 I 92*{92'1,_ _, Qw, ,* THREEQ00 00 '.~-.» Sb.1 92.~ .. 4! mxrzn DRQIROBERTSOBLE srznwMET ruumzzmFORTYSIX xwzw AND ROBERT hW =-,1 F Z*:a * INTRODUCEDDANDLATTER smm.INTER-AMERICAN FORMED H . . . "1? H{ARMACEUTICAL co.ROBERT EHPECTEDTO cm" COMMISSIONSDEALS on OF .~92.- 'm1sRELATIONSHIP?!-IITH ROBERT COMPANY.guofrFELT LAT-ER cmzmsn BY snznw mvownn ESPIONAGEAND PARTEDr-mm-sms STERN. TO UQ T KNOWLEDGE. MYRAALLEGES KNOWSNOTHING ELSEREGARDING BOTHSTERNS A. _; ... WI :. 41 W92¢ ';. ... OTHERSOVIET ACTIVITIES. KNEW STERNSWERE OLDFRIENDS OFZUBILIN _92-'_;.:;,!g' F __A 9;- HHTPWRA DOESNOT KNOWIF STERNS KNEW CHALIAPINOR PROFESSOR /CHOUDENKO/f zi . I us. _'.-., _ *., STATED METGEORGE ZLATOVSKIIN NY_WITH JACK SOBLEABOUT NINETEENFORTY _§%§E NINE. GEORGECONTACTED JACKAND MADEMEETING AT FORTYSECOND STREET RY T -L??? ~ Ky .:~ . I CAFETERIA. MYRABELIEVES THIS WAS FIRST TIME JACK METGEORGE. ABOUT_ U3 ;' . ' IHNETEEN FORTYNINE,MYRA AGAIN MET GEORGE ALONE.SHE TENAT CENTURY, _.';1. » * ~. ~,& LETTER CO.,HAD DINNERWITH GEORGE AT SMALL ARMENIAN RESTAURANTNEAR .: - ,.:;.r'><-. 25% ¢-. V J,- . s_:~_ s ~ TWENTYFIRST STREETAND FOURTHAVENUE. LENTGEORGE THIRTYDOLLARS .. ,¢ ,., ~gas»"~-~. i ,3 R1 .. 5 TO HELP FINANCE HIS TRIP TOPARIS. SHE GAVE CARTONOF CHESTERFIELDS '. ;~§. , $3'1 -<1?! TO GEORGEFOR JACK IN PARIS. MYRA STATED DIDN'T THENKNOW GEORGE WAS 92 . INVOLVED. LATERWAS TOLDBY JANE AND GEORGEOF THEIR COVER NAMES. H FIRST METJANE INPARIS, NINETEENFIFTY. JANE HAD RENTEDHOUSE U .. -: 2 92~ FOR SUMMERAT TROUVILLE. MYRA STAYED ONLY TWOWEEKS. DENIEDSHE PAIDI, GEORGEJANE OR ANYMONEYS ORTHAT THEY SIGNED RECEIPTS. NEVERSAW THEIR REPORTS. BELIEVES JANEWROTE BIOGRAPHYON ST. JOHN AND STEPCZK, .. . _- xx; an NEVERSAI-ETHESE REPORTS.spamc NINETEENFIFTYONE, WENT TO ZURICH mo:-1PARIS wrrn JANEmtzi TO sov1:»:"rsACCORDING ARRANGEMENTS TO _:_- MADE =3. ~; V 3-7."; END PAGE THREE..... if .T..<. _-_. ' ~4=-.>:1'.» .3 @R . -64'. QM 1Ag ~ #4.792 . 5* '1!fa .92,~.;,:.f»o >92* ¢ .». . .,.-. ..._ r >--» .,-.. ..__-_. . - . - ,. E : J PAGE FOUR... NINETEEN ETETYBERNE MEETHITH SOVIETS. NYRA CANNOTRECALL SIGNALS OR PAROL.STATES HADNET THESOVIETS . u . ' ANDTHUS DIDNOT NEED BUT TO APPEAR ATCERTAIN THEATREAT CERTAINTINE, CANNOT RECALLS DETAILS, EXCEPT NEETING WAS END OF MONTHEVERY THO ORTHREE MONTHS. NYRAt INTRODUCED- . TO JANESOVIETPRINCIPALS. DESCRIBEDAS /ONE/92 0ABOUT _, qr up >1 I-92 4! THIRTY THIRTYFIVE HEAVYYEARS, SE1, FIVE FEETEIGHT INCHES,BLOND, 3' FAIRSKIN, DRESSED IN GREY,NO GLASSES,HEALTHY LOOKING,BELIEVED FRON NOSCONREGION, SPOKEFRENCH POORLY,DID ALLTHE TALKING./THO/ _ é ABOUT FIFTYFIVEYEARS,FOUR, HEAVY,FIVE DARK ANDHAIREYES, DORE V B it~/ -z ROUND TYPEFEDORA PULLEDDOWNEARS, TO HADHRINKLED FACE,SHORT NOSE, <5 2 DID LITTLETALKING, DROVELINOUSINE BLACK TYPE CAR,BUT APPEAREDTO BE *1 . OF HIGHERRANK. NYRACANNOT RECALLIF SHEGAVE A REPORT, BELIEVES X JANE DID.CANNOT RECALLCONVERSATION. LASTED MEETINGABOUT TWENTY I TEmuTEs NHILERIDING AROUNDIN AuTo IN OUTSKIRTSOF ZURICH. RECALLS IT HASVERY COLDAT THAT TINE. NYRAAND JANESTAYED LOCAL AT HOTEL, 8 {E POST,Two THREEon DAYS, REGISTERED UNDER NAMES. RIGHT ~f 1 »,J11 - ~, ~».<» < / 9 7 A; PR ' ~ _ /Q I1 2 1 //x. %? JACKSOBLE PAID EXPENSESTRIP. FOR THISUAS LASTTIME HYRANET SOVIETS ,, ,_I; ,1/, - 92 n .-.,-,* *7? /'1'ALLEGESKNOHS SHE NOTHINGOF OTHERJANE ZLATOVSKIREPORTS. ALLEGES. ;-23224.»~v / INOUS THAT GEORGETO HENT YUGOSLAVIA AT JACKTSINSTRUCTIONS URITE TO A. GJ CONDITIONSTHERE. NROTEREPORT, BUT NYRA NEVER SANIT. CANNOT RECALL GEORGEIF ATTEMPTEDSECURE ATJOB ANERICAN BASES BUT KNOUS 2.!, , ER: A FOURQQQQQ . vvvlv i 1 4/;-,.<~;//,7v yr, 1;»;. 1 4//4 __ _ _ _ ,______4__'_ .h____- __b___'__.__,'.__ V ,_; _ ;-_;_,., .~,. ;;.._._... _..- .. .._ I ...._;_-..r.. - _. -.I,. _- _- T ' : '1 x . '92 1 I .-I" 1 PAGE. FIVE....._ A 3 -31' IE9 FDRéénz JOB,us covzauuz J: 5.; tAS .;j§3:* >&£ DATES ANDDETAILS NOTRECALLED. STATES BROKE WITH ZLATOVSKISBECAUSE ~ A;*<.1;92; %'t; . ,? ' A THEY BLANEDJACK OVERTHEIR DEALWITH NORROS.STATED NORROS a PDNEY. TOLDGEORGE HENOULD GIVEHIN IN JOB, EUROPE, IN HISBUT ENTERPRISES HASTURNED DOWN.Ii up - RECEIVED FOURTHOUSAND DOLLARSFRON JANE. NEEDED 1 QMZPMNDRED DOLLARSFIFTY FORCOUPLE NONTHS,THEN NORROSDISAPPEARED.O 92» GEORGE FOUNDNORROS INVIENNA, TOOKHIN BY J S PAID GEORGE HAD FIGHT,moan s LOST THREETEETH. NORROSHAD HISNIFE REPAYTHE HONEY.STATED JANE rmvza TOLDHER ABOUTVIENNA on RITZ HOTEL,PARIS, MEETINGS,on HOU x JANE NETSTERNS, NORBILL BRONDER.NYRA STATEDNEVER HNEU EARLE BROUDER~ IND BROTHERUNTIL QUESTIONEDBY USA, SDNY. STATEDJAINE YANKELSON - qr IND LEONLEVINSHY, BOTHOF NONTEVIDEO, URUGUAY, INVOLVED. NOT STATED ZNOUS NOTHINGOF EDNARD G. ROBINSON. NYRA APPEARS NUMEROUS POINTS.SHE INSISTSSHE IS TELLING TRUTH RECALL DETAILSON NANYSPECIFIC POINTS. VERY VACUEon BUT THAT SHE CANNOT TED AT THREE HT UHENNYRA REQUESTEDIT DUE TO FATIGNE.INTERVIEW ARRANGEDFOR FOUR SIXTEENNEXT. TEN PAGE BIOGRAPHYIN NYRA-SHANDNRITING COVERING NINETEENYFOUR-NINETEENTHIRTYONE. ADDITIONALBIOG.OBTAINED TO BE OBTAINED DURINGPERSONAL INTERROGATION,AS PRISON CONDITIONS NOT FAVORABLE DURING NEEKDAYS FOR NY 1 -S PRIVACY ALTHOUGH SHE IS UILLING I " -' --". I __ ~~ -< ~<.. -.._ ..-_>"-_._- ._. '._....-...., - , - _ .. . . ._.""92' - __ - .,..':_;.J_'_l~--.._.1.;;:.:_;_._=_¢_;:.;.-_.__-_._ Q . £ URGENT 3-1* 4-16-57 J? §z;:;*¢s<0§ .- , "3 I . 1,? .. w ' 92h!. 'lg?! Ag! . ' LT. -" -Z _ .. - 92-.= ."; PAGE TWO I ASSOCIATIONCHOUNDENKO WITHOFF OVERAMOUNT BROKE MONEY TO OFBE 4_§ ADVANCED ROBERTTO BYSOVIETS . RE ESTHER RAND,SOBLE SAIDHIS FIRSTAé MEETING WITH RAND TOOKPLACE NINETEENFORTYFOUR, .$OBLE NYC. SAIDHE ,; wAs INSTRUCTEDBY CHALIAPINTo APPEARATA MEETING PLACE, MIDTOWNT7§ NEW YORK,AND CARRYRECOGNITION WHICH SOBLE SIGNAL, CAAIMED DOES HE NOT? RECALL,STATES BUT POSSIBLY A WAS MAGAZINE.MEETING AT gANpPLACE,.,,. »i¥ ...92: *._ , WAS ACCOMPANIEDBY ANOTHER RUSSIAN, WHO,ACCORDING RANDZS TOLATER '§ :¢,;»5 ADVICESOBLE, TO HADBEEN HER SOVIET CONTACTUP UNTIL THAT TIME. T DESCRIPTIONSOVIET OF OBTAINED.SOBLE HE SAIDWASINTRODUCED TO:RAN 7R§ T._y-292 9' AS SAM AND BELIEVESSHE WAS INTRODUCED CODE BY NAMEWHICH HE ER Ts Q 3% L CANNOTBUT RECALL, THATLATER, GAVE HE HISRAND TRUENAME. g , in ..v : Ya? CHALIAPINTOLD HADSOBLE THAT snt WOULDFURNISH INFORMATIONON JEWISHTTR!- if ORGANIZATIONSWITH wuom sun WASEMPLOYED. FURNISHED2RAND w1TH'F5SOBLE>514 .;!<"i TYPEWRITTENI REPORTSWHICH HE PASSED ON TO CHALIAPINAND LATERTO ' 3?-v ! .1 ,3: CHOUNDENKO.SAID SOBLE HEMET RANDEVERY TWOWEEKS EVERY OR MONTHIN Ci MIDTOWNOBTAINED AND REPORTSFROM HER.HE SAID THESE REPORTSCONCERNED INFORMATIONJEWISH REGARDING ORGANIZATIONSAND HEADTHE THE ZIONIST? OF _1 ORGANIZATION,GOLDSTEIN. ONEHE STATED THAT HE DID NOT REMEMBERMAKING' END PAGE TWO _ H U . .6. -,, I <1 - _. .,. > ,. .-/.=.r_ __ U - , , _ _ . _ 1,-,-.,-.,J»-1//.'//-a .7. - U if _ > , > _ v,._. , . 1,. ,_ii .._ .-- .. ~ " ' _ J K .. ._..-....-. I_ ._ -' . ... ~... .-._,.____.__...._;_.._._-..__._... 4 ;_»_ _.. -.._ - .- _ PAGE THREE ' REGULARPAYMENTS MONEYESTHER TO BUT, RAND ACCORDING WITH HER WISHES, L HE ENTERTAINEDHER GOODAT RESTAURANTS.SOBLE QUESTIONEDWAS AS TO ' > WHETHER HEHAD GIVEN RAND GIFTS AND STATED THAT IN ACCORDANCEWITH A DESIREOF CHOUNDENKO, PROBABLY INNINETEEN FORTYFIVE, GAVE'RAND HE A Ii GOLD wATcH. SOBLE THESAID wATcH HAs AN AMERICAN WATCH, MADE - .' PURCHASEDTHE BYsov1ETs, GIVEN HIM TO BYCHOUNDENKO, PASSED AND' »» BY HIM TORAND. SOBLESAID HEVISITED RANDTSIHOMEON FOURTHSTREET NYC,ONE ON OCCASIONWHEN HE WAS STILL KNOW AS TO.RANDSAMAND 9 METC! JACKRAND THERE. HOWEVER, RAND DID JACKNOT DURINGSTAY MEETING HIS }ég WITH~ESTHER_RANDT *RANDTHAT HEWAS FROMSOVIETS WAS INTRODUCg% AND KNEW TO JACKRANDSAM. AS SOBLERECALLEDTHAT AFTER THE WASWAR OVER,gg ALFREDWISHED STERNBE PUTTOIN TOUCH WITH THE COMMUNISTPARTY. jg SOBLE HESAID INTRODUCED RANDALFRED TO ANDSTERN LATERLEARNED THAT ¬§ . 92-' RAND HADINTRODUCED TO STERNA COMMUNIST PARTY FUNCTIONARY.SOBLE .2 CALIMEDTHAT HE DID NOT KNOWTHE IDENTITYOF THIS CP FUNCTIONARY. SUBSEQUENTHISLAST CLAIMED TO CONTACT WITH CHOUNDENKO,WHICH HE PLACES IN LATE NINETEENFORTYFIVE, DISCLOSED HE THE TO RANDS HIS T IDENTITY THEREAFTER,AND HAD THEY QUOTEsoc1AL'HEET1Ncs ' uNQuoTE. END PAGE THREE ' # = .-- -E. ..-,, . 1'»,-:_ -, 7 " -"I - : 41,, A A 9!. _-_-:'- -=.E'a~:=.;;:._.- ~ 04 *~ *" 92 - ~:> PAGE FOUR ' SOBLE HESAID WASUNCERTAIN TO WHENASHE INTRODUCED MYRA SOBLETO RAND HE CLAIMEDTHAT TOLDHE THERANDS BROTHER, HIS ROBERT,WASDOCTOR A AND THATSUBSEQUENTLY RANDS BOTH USEDROBERT AS92APHYSICIAN. " SOBLE CLAIMEDTHAT THEMEETINGS ROBERT OF THE WITH RANDS WERE QUOTE I W NOT POLITICAL,UNQUOTE THEYTHOUGH PROBABLY DISCUSSED GENERALTOPICS CONCERNINGAND RUSSIA UNITEDTHE STATES.SOBLE STATEDTHAT ESTHERRANW HAS ALWAYSDESIRIOUS RETURNING OF THE TO SOVIET UNION AFOR VISIT. I RE ALICEAND JAMES~MARTINCOLON SOBLE STATED ALICEMARTIN WAS INTRODUCEDHIM BYESTHER TO RANRZHE CLAIMEDHE wAsUNABLE PLACE TO I THE DATEOF THISINTRODUCTION STATEDWAS BUT IT WHILEqUAMES*MARTIN§WAS{ STILLIN THE ARMY. AT THIS -MEETING MARTIN '1-92'?L I_CI-I STATEDTHAT {JAMES} '7 MARTIN BECOULD OFSERVICE SOBLE TO THEY AS BOTHHAD BEEN COMMUNISTS ' AND AME§WAS FAMILIARWITH WORKERS MOVEMENTS THE US.INSOBLE STATED THA'1 , ALICE.. BOTHKNEW TO SOBLE CONNECTEDBE I WITH sovIETs.THE AFTER*.1Ag1_1-;§¢§A_13jr__I_I_I>I.?;,S". FROMARMY, THE SOBLE RELEASE STATEDMET HE MARTININ THECOMPANY ALICE OF ANDESTHER ONRAND THE STREETIRE NEAR __b2_ART~I-N»_§ APARTMENTNIMETY.-1.sEvEMIR' ow NYC, STREET, END PAGEFOUR ' A 1 1, M .. .,, ,__ - - .. ..V _ >1 V . _ , ~ **- ~ --~---- ;-_ ,., . _. _ - ,___'_;;..'._~ . . F_'...-..;...-_. PAGEFIVE 92 _ I I AND THEYDVISITEDMARTIN S APARTMENT.'SOBLE HE CONTINUEDSTATEDCONTACTE WITH MARTINUP UNTILJULY, NINETEENFIFTY. SOBLEEEAIMED THATTEE -Z; PAYMENTSHE MADE TO gAMEs,MAETINWERE IE THE AMOUNTSOF QUOTE THENTYFIVE DASH THIRTYDOLLARS UNQUOTEAND THAT;MARTINSUPPLIED HIMINFORMATION .Fé , - ' . ,; CONCERNING AMERICANTHE LEGIONAND VETERANSORGANIZATIONS. HESAID THKT . . "S: MARTIN WOULDNOT SIGN RECEIPTS GIVENOR WRITTENREPORTS MARTIN AS STATED TO SOBLEQUOTE YOUWILL BE IN RUSSIABUT I WILL HAVE TO ANSWERFOR LI . 6 ' THIS. UNQUOTE.ACCORDING SOBLE TO MARTIN-SREPORTS CONCERNED , ~» . . OTHER MEMBERSOF THE VETERANS ORGANIZATIONSWITH DETAILSAS TO THIER ' DRINKING HABITS, GAMBLING HABITS,ETC.. SOBLE STATED THATMARTIN ..,. ~ _CLAIMED THATFOR HIM TO GOHIGHER INVETERANS ORGANIZATIONSHE WOULD L NEED AGREAT SUMOF MONEY AND THATTHIS MIGHTNOT ACCOMPLISHHIS RISE * IN VETERANSORGANIZATIONS. SOBLESTATED THATTHE SOVIETS ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS ASKEDHIM TO GET INFORMATIONFROM MARTIN AND THATTHE LAST. t A . TIME HESAW MARTINHE WAS ENDEAVORINGGET TO INFORMATIONREQUESTED BYQ THE SOVIETS. HOWEVER, MARTINAT THIS LAST MEETINGIN NINETEENFIFTY DECLINED ANDDESIRED TOBREAK OFF THE RELATIONSHIP. RE SYLVIA CALLEN ' '5. 2. ~ DOXSEE... SOBLESTATED THATHE WASINTRODUCED BY THE ZUBILINS TOLUCY A . ., BOOKER. HE PLACED THEDATE OF THIS INTRODUCTION ASNINETEEN FORTYTHREE w ¢ END PAGE FIVE L -. . .= .- , . . .-4-1 ' . , I - K __, ___;_92N-,__, L<_,-__iL__,_, . .4 .__,__92,-_-'.<.~ . -,,I.I.I__--.._-92.¢.~ ~~~ _ _ _ => v ~ 4 i_"_: __ ;"._ ;:,-A''_'__ __-__::_;'?:i ;i5_p_-_,L~: _;_.___92__,; I_._.-_'__-¢_:.92~.-»l' 1-: -E41I-1 '- 1- 0: ' K. H ~H '6 vi PAGE SIX ' . z, - ..,"1'7 ! IN NYC.ETHE ZUBILINSTOLD THATHIM HE'NASTO PAYTHE RENT FOR BOOKER-S an . , APARTMENT.VISITS ON TOBOOKER-S NOULD HE OBTAININFORMATION FROM .DDxsEEwAs WHO THESECRETARY CANNON TO THE OF swP. SOBLE CLAIMEDTHAT D0xsEE FURNISHEDHIM wITHTYPEHHITTENi§EPoBTs THE CONCERNING FACTIONAL7 FIGHTS WITHINTHE TROTSKYITE MovEMENT§$ sAID HE THAT DoxsEE CONTINUALLY xi REQUESTEDSHE THAT BERELEASED THIS FROM WORK AS SUCHWORK MADE HER 'Q NEBvous. SOBLEsTATEDTUBNED HE DQ§EEE-sREPORTSTo OVERCHALIAPIN ; AND LATER TO CHOUNDENKO.cHouNDENHd§IN NINETEEN LATE FORTYFIVE ' ".4~92 AUTHORIZEDTO PERMIT HIMDOXSEE LEANE TO SWP THE GOAND BACK TO CHICAGOQ .3 " SOBLE CLAIMEDTHAT KNEWHE NOTHINGOEKDOXSEE-S INCLUDING LIFE, HERI*1 1*-I Q5", ... g'A " 2; HUSBANDCLAIMED AND NEVERSHE DISCUSSEDHER ACTIVITY OR SUPERIORS PRIOR , R" T ?@r :3 ;_{ To SOBLE.SOBLE sTATEDTHATNHEN HE MAB INTRODUCEDTO BOOKERBY THE 'vfg. - ~.» ZUBILINS THEYINDICATED BOOKERTHATHAD WORKED WITH THEMIN BERLIN AND T . x _ < .92 ~ - ~11' 3-. WAS COMPLETELYTRUSTWORTHY. RE MARKNZBDROWSKI COLON SOBLEINTENSIVELY Q '1 1 INTERROGATED CONCERNINGMARK ZBORONSKI:"HE REITERATED INFORMATION :,_1 I P92, A PREVIOUSLYRE ZBOROWSKI,GIVEN ADDIN§ ONLY THAT suBsEQuENTTo soBLE-s ' W~< INTRODUCTIONzBoBowsHI or CHOUNDENKOQISOBLE To OF FRIENDSHIP ouTMET .;. ,3 E3, ZBOROWSKITwo suBsEQuENT 0NoccAsIoN%§?§HE THAT CLAIMED ZBOROMSKI' 8 TOLD HIMTHAT CHOUNDENKOHAD BEEN MMQHYMQBE IN DEMANDING STRICT 92;92 . c ,~ »-', :1- INFORMATIONZBOROWSKI FROMAND AKsIN§iZBoBowsxI To INTENSIFY HIs /£2 W 3'» INFILTRATIONTHE OF TROTSTYITE AND MEN§HEvIK MovEMENTs. A LATER AT DATE END PAGE SIX - T '1 ,'*& ' _ L _ ,___, __ __ _ . . . .J.;_»'.?: '-. ' ._ '- ~' ' ' *3 !//A . . . _. 1'4. A .',;. __ V. 1.:-1-.';.; .;;¢...'...'. .'.....-.._- . V . ,.-.<. _ 92_4 .-. - » ._ AE, -I _ ' '' 1 * f _ ._, ET ' :" . .'_;.1¢.»_ -_;-5;_:_I_:i". .? .*':: i.2-;ii»-""92 ~* . ~4 ;»? z.?{ .~ , _ / I - >~w 1» , Q3 » ... g K . ., , . _ 92_ -' ~! 1% _, > I Q ix? H53 " n3" ;; " ' 5 -92¢. '1.92 ». u!'~J§ :8 I PAGE SEVEN IN Moscow FEDOTOV TOLD SOBLE THAT SKI HAD BEEN MISHANDLED- SOBLE' INDICATED THAT THIs REFERRED To cHo HANDLING OF ZBOROHSKI- IT wAs INDICATED THAT ZBOROWSKI MI RECONTACTED BY THE sovIETs. SOBLE CALIMED HE DID NOT CONTACT I-AGAIN. THE REPORTS or f ZBOROWSKI, ACCORDING TO SOBLE, WERE ITTEN IN ENGLISH. IN THE LAST CONTACTS OF SOBLE HITH-zsonow EXPRESSED FEAR BOTH ~~ THAT THE RUSSIANSWOULD PRESSURE H THAT THE FBI WOULD FIND OUT = ABOUT HIM. CONCERNING MENDEL LADS LE STATED THAT LADSKY NEVER FURNISHED A REPORT TO HIM, HowEvER, INSISTENCE OF THE- ~ ~.!_,:;_ ».»z;;: ' RUSSIANS, HE CONTACTED LADSKY To A TO GET A REPORT FROM HIM. * . ~:92 _,. .¢, _I » » LADSKY TOLD HIM AT THAT TIME, wHIcH PROBABLY NINETEEN FORTYEIGHT ,r~.1? .' . I vvg} on FORTYNINE, THAT HE WOULD BE WORK FOR THE SOVIETS IN ANOTHER <: ¢:'1'-L YEAR. ON SUBSEQUENT CONTACTS BY SO LADSKY, LADSKY ADVISED Si3 3 THAT HE HAD GOTTEN A JOB WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS AND WAS THEN i ANTI SOVIET. SOBLE CALINED HE DID 3 ; IF LADSKY wAs EVER coHTAcTEn{Q? . ,~, END PAGE SEVEN 1 92§ @- >7. .» . v3 . . »-». _, 9' am . . . . I _ ' ' ' ' ". 92 _ 1}" I V. _ . .T > _ .w__. I _ . .'I _ -., - E!IE&- . ___ ~ -.92.'.L;,:" _ __,_. .. . 92|'v 4»' .. - ...L-...---.._.-.--A.w..._=.- '< ' I ._-_, ._._.-_ .1.-.. - .. ,I_.- ~--+- --1- - ~ '-4*~ ~'* T. L__L____'*_*.-".'..-.1. »'->;.' '- i if?", l ~ .. .,éE PAGE EIGHT 9 BY ANY OTHER SOVIETS. CONCERNING ELIAs, SOBLE RELATED THAT SOMETIME IN THE WINTER OF NINETEEN DAsH FORTYTHREE, THAT ZUBILIN HAD ASKED HIM TO GET IN TO ELIAs AND THAT ELIAs HAD COME TO NYCAND THATEUBILIN, SOBLEAND TOOK A RIDE IN zuBILIN-s CAR TO NEWJERSEY VIATHE GEORGEWASH IDGE To AN OLD FARM HOUSE WHICH ZUBILIN STATED WAS OWNED BY IANs. SOBLE CLAIMED HE DID I NOT KNOW WHAT TYPE OF ASSIGNMENT _TO RECEIVE, BUT HE STATED THAT ELIAS wAs QuEsTIoNED BY ZUBII POSSIBLE SOURCES IN cANADA - I. A 1 .: -A3 -, ' 1;.*1 fan. THAT ELIAs HNEN wHo MIGHT BE OF v THE sovIETs. SOBLE sTATED ;~3.» BE APPROACHED IN cANADA. SOBLE c1 COULD NOT RECALL WHO THEsE xi? 'I ' -"5,3;. 1 .1-'.w -~' PEOPLE WERE. SOBLE CLAIMED THAT HE KNOW WHETHER THE sovIETs . R»- Q2 i"'¢K ,.;~ 1 T HAD CONTACTEDELIAS IN cANADA. HE -I AA THAT BOTHALEXANDER ELIZAAND .-A ...1 .,¢_ ; ff 47!; I,.; ELIAs HAD BEEN COMMUNISTS IN CANADA T PROMINENT COMMUNISTS Q192 vIsITED A SUMMER HOME THE ELIAsEs 1'4}? IDE OF MONTREAL IN A PLACE F5 E.* Q ~, cALLED RENOIR /PH/, INCLUDING FRED SOBLE sTATED THAT THIs SUMMER 923 HOME wAs AT oNE TIME sEAHcHED BY , BUT THAT No ARRESTS .5~ xi _ WERE MADE. SOBLE SAID THAT WHEN HE ! THE APPROXIMATELY FOUR --e i END PAGE EIGHT i, 5% :1. . ¢ J, __92__ _, __ -d92'>:II&:~. ... - ~ - ~ . _ , ...¢~ .. .-"A :¢_ 5,. - ' Ta; 7 .. - 5. . - -I ____L_.T_ _- ,.r. _____._.>_._~_.~ _-;_ -_ ,_.;. .'._-I ;- ...... _. ____ f Q." »~ ~*.~L»»§' -sf fl _ _,,. M. 1. ~§ . é F , . ~ S I , .-A 32¢}. ix ',' i""*- '4. *3X =p~-.'.a92..- . ;'=y@ A-'1'; " :» PAGE NINE ~31? i. »»*7"- THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THE 1;, -§_ , =._< w US FROM i ; . _, .*~:¢' ~ US IN NINETEEN FORTYTWO A W ,'UST PRIOR TO HIS RETURN TO THE ,4 FUNDS TOOKPLACE ON THEDAsH FORTYT;g$; éTHAT THE TRANSFER OF THESE AND THAT ELIAS-S OFFICEGDRNER IN IQEQQRF THE IMPERIAL BANK OF CANADA $4 »; v,. HAG LOCATED§%%§;ENT TO THE IMPERIAL BANK AT FIVETWELVE Mc GILL STREET. soELE;§§%§ ¢§;< HAT 2UBILIN S REAGTIDN TO MEETING ELIAS WAS THAT ZUBILIN HAS ?3§§;SED WITH ELIAS. ELIAS, SUBSEQUENT TO THE DISCLOSURE OF GouggigggIN CANADA, EXPRESSED FEAR THAT HE MIGHT BE DETEGTED. sD§§§§RATED THAT AT DNE TIME ELISAS QUEsTIoNED ' HIM As TO NHETHER THE Do§§gZ§*PARENTLY IE5 .,-'* 4*' REFERRING TO BELLA DODD/wHo HAD MADE DISCLOSURES CONC . M7§§§§E c0MMUNIsM IN THE US MIGHT BE" ~ ; 6'1 3 A-F1 . THE sAME PERSON As MARTHA DoDD. sD§§%§;A1MED T.,m ~ HE WAS NOT CERTAIN As £3. *4 T TOHow ELIAS KNEW ABOUTMARTHA DoDD§§§§%ELE z; :z$' "_'§;?RELATED THAT DURING HIS ' AcTIvITIEs FOR THE SOVIETS IN THE U *é? i l §R§gYHEcEIvED xf:";£;;» A ;§j_ SALARY or ONE HUNDRED FIFTYDOLLARS PER MDNTH PLUS THE FU§§§§§ HAD TO PAY HIS AGENT F T:r3;;,- 4- " , s As LUCY I, '-> jv Ii -¢v_ . ,» END PAGE NINE ' »=1 .¢~."§ §_ 4; 14 1- I; .9.'1", 7.- ._, . xi-_, is 3 -- , ' 1 , 1: é ,1, ., f£§§F mi *3 A ~ v . -- ~14 Es 92" . 92