Volume III Monday No. 7 7th November, 1966
PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES
DEWAN NEGARA (SENATE)
OFFICIAL REPORT
THIRD SESSION OF THE SECOND PARLIAMENT OF MALAYSIA
CONTENTS
ANNOUNCEMENT BY MR PRESIDENT- Message from the House of Representatives [Col. 801) BUSINESS OF THE SENATE [Col. 802] ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS [Col. 802) BILLS- The Consolidated Fund (Expenditure on Account) Bill [Col. 808] The Development Funds Bill [Col. 812) The Currency Laws (Amendment) Bill [Col. 819] The Customs (Amendment) Bill [Col. 819] The Treasury Bills (Local) (Amendment) Bill [Col. 821] The Royal Malaysia Police (Amendment) Bill [Col. 822) The Standards Bill [Col. 834] The Municipal (Amendment) Bill [Col. 838] ADJOURNMENT SINE DIE (Motion) [Col. 839] WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS [Col. 840]
DI-CHETAK DI-JABATAN CHETAK KERAJAAN OLEH OOI THEAM HOCK, PENGUASA, IPOH 1968
MALAYSIA DEWAN NEGARA (SENATE) Official Report
Vol. III Third Session of the Second Dewan Negara No. 7
Monday, 7th November, 1966
The Senate met at Ten o'clock a.m.
PRESENT: The Honourable Mr President, DATO' HAJI ABDUL RAHMAN ·BIN MOHAMED . YASIN, S.P.M.J., P.l.S., J.P. (Johor). the Minister without Portfolio, TAN SRI ONG YOKE LIN, P.M.N. (Appointed). TUAN A. ARUNASALAM. A.M.N. (Appointed). TUAN ABDUL RAHMAN BIN AHMAD (Perlis). TUAN ABDUL SAMAD BIN OSMAN, P.J.K. (Appointed). TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN HAJI ABDUl LAH, A;M.N. (Penang). TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN HAJI ABDUL MANAP, P.P.N. (Melaka). PUAN AISHAH BINTl HAJI ABDUL GHANI (Appointed). PUAN BIBI AISHA BINTI HAMID DON, A.M.N. (Appointed). TUAN AMALUDDIN BIN DARUS (Kelantan). DATO' JOSEPH AUGUSTINE ANGIAN ANDULAG, P.D.K. (Sabah). TUAN AWANG DAUD MATUSIN (Appointed). DATU TUANKU Bu;ANG Bl~ TuANKU HAH OTHMAN (Sarawak). TUAN CHAN KEONG HON (Appointed). TUAN CHAN KWONG-HON, J.M.N., s.M.s, ·J.P. (Selangor). TUAN CHEAH SENG KHIM, J.P. (Penang). DATO' DR CHEAH TOON LOK, D.P.M.K., D.M.K., J.M.N., J.P. (Appointed). DATO' J. E. S. CRAWFORD, D.P.M.P., J.M.N., J.P., Dato' Kurnia Indera (Appointed). TUAN D. S. DoRAI RAJ, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Appointed). DATO' Foo SEE Mm, D.P.M.K., J.P. (Appointed). TUAN GAN TECK YEOW, J.M.N. (Appointed). TUAN Gon CHEK KIN, P.J.K. (Trengganu). TUAN Hon CHEE CHEO~G. A.M.N., J.P. (Pahang). TUAN HONG KIM Sm (Appointed). TUAN c. D. ISMAIL, J.M.N., J.P. (Appointed). TUAN ANDREW JIKA LANDAU (Appointed). TUAN KOH KIM LENG (Melaka). DATO' LEE FOONG YEE, J.M.N., P.P.T., J.P. (Negri Sembilan). DATO' Y. T. LEE, D.P.M.S., J.M.N., P.J.K., J.P. (Appointed).
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The Honourable TUAN LIM HEE HONG, J.M.N., r.P. (Appointed). TUAN LIM JOOK KONG, J.P. (Kedah). TUAN MOHAMAD ADIB BIN OMAR, P.J.K. (Trengganu). DATU PENGIRAN MOHAMED DIGADONG GALPAM, P.D.K. (Sabah). TAN SRI HAJI MOHAMED NOAH BIN OMAR, P.M.N., S.P.M.J., D.P.M.B., P.I.S., J.P. (Appointed). TUAN HAJI MOHAMED SAAID BIN HAJI ABU BAKAR (Appointed). TUAN S. P. S. NATHAN (Appointed). NIK HASSAN BIN HAJI NIK YAHYA, J.M.N. (Appointed). TOK PANGKU PANDAK HAMID BIN PUTEH ]ALI, P.J.K. (Appointed). TUAN SAIDON BIN KECHUT, A.M.N. (Appointed). DATO' SHEIKH ABU BAKAR BIN YAHYA AL-HAJ, D.P.M.J., P.I.S., J.P. (Johor). TAN SRI G. SHELLEY, P.M.N., J.P. (Appointed). TUAN SYED AHMAD BIN SYED MAHMUD SHAHABUDIN, J.M.N., S.M.K., J.P. (Kedah). TUAN SYED DARUS BIN SYED HASHIM (Perlis). TUAN WILLIAM TAN (Appointed). TAN SRI T. H. TAN, P.M.N. (Appointed). DATO' E. E. c. THURAISINGHAM, D.P.M.J., J.P. (Appointed). TUAN s. 0. K. UBAIDULLA, J.M.N. (Appointed). DATO' WAN IBRAHIM BIN WAN TANJONG, J.M.N., P.J.K., Orang Kaya Indera Maharaja Purba Jelai (Pahang). WAN MUSTAPHA BIN HAJI WAN ALI, S.M.K. (Kelantan). wAN SULAIMAN BIN wAN TAM, P.J.K. (Appointed). TUAN YAHYA BIN AHMAD, P.J.K. (Negri Sembilan).
•< TUAN YAHYA BIN HAJI AHMAD (Perak).
ABSENT: The Honourable DATO' ATHI NAHAPPAN, D.P.M.S. (Appointed). TEMENGGONG 0YONG LAWAi JAU (Sarawak). RAJA RASTAM SHAHROME BIN RAJA SAID T AUPHY (Selangor). TUAN YEOH KIAN TEIK (Perak).
IN ATTENDANCE: The Honourable the Minister of Home Affairs and Minister of Justice, TUN DR ISMAIL BIN DATO' HAJI ABDUL RAHMAN, S.S.M., P.M.N. (Johor Timor). the Minister of Transport, TAN SRI HAJI SARDON BIN HAJI JUBIR, P.M.l\'. (Pontian Utara). the Minister for Welfare Services, TUAN HAn ABDUL HAMID KHAN BIN HAJJ SAKHAWAT ALI KHAN, J.M.N., J.P. (Batang Padang). the Minister of Information and Broadcasting, TUAN SENU BIN ABDUL RAHMAN (Kubang Pasu Barat). the Minister of Agriculture and Co-operatives, TUAN HAJI MOHAMED GHAZAL! BIN HAJI JAWI (Ulu Perak). the Minister of Lands and Mines, TUAN ABDUL-RAHMAN BIN Y A'KUB (Sarawak). 801 7 NOVEMBER 1966 802
PRAYERS BUSINESS OF mE S~NATE (Mr President in the Chair) The Minister without Portfolio (Tan Sri Ong Yoke Lin): Mr President, Sir, I beg to give notice that I will move the ANNOUNCEMENT BY second and third readings of the follow MR PRESIDENT ing Bills at this meeting of the Senate: MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE (1) The Consolidated Fund (Expendi ture on Account) Bill. OF REPRESENTATIVES (2) The Development Funds Bill. Mr President: Yang Berhormat Ahli2 (3) The Currency Laws (Amendment) Dewan Negara, ada-lah saya menyata Bill. kan pada Dewan ini bahawa saya telah menerima satu perutusan dari ( 4) The Treasury Bills (Local) pada Dewan Ra'ayat. Sekarang saya (Amendment) Bill. jemput Setia-usaha Majlis membacha Mr President: So be it. kan perutusan itu. Tan Sri T. H. Tan: Mr President, Sir, (Whereupon the Clerk reads the I beg to give notice that I will move message) the second and third readings of the "Mr President, following Bills at this meeting of the The House of Representatives has Senate: passed the following Bills : (1) The Customs (Amendment) Bill. (I) to amend the Royal Malaysia Police (2) The Royal Malaysia Police Act, 1963, to vest the control of (Amendment) Bill. components in the States of Malaya in the Inspector General of Police (3) The Standards Bill. · and provide for the appointment (4) The Municipal (Amendment) Bill. of a Deputy Inspector General of Police and for other matters Mr President: So be it. connected therewith; (2) to amend and consolidate the law relating to the Development Fund ORAL ANSWERS TO of the Federation and to make provision relating to financial pro QUESTIONS cedure with respect to the Develop ment Funds of the States; TINDAKAN KERAJAAN UNTOK (3) to amend the Currency Act, 1960, of the States of Malaya and the MEMBETULKAN KEADAAN Currency Ordinances, 1960, of Dl-RUMAH2 DAN HOTEL2 TER Sabah and Sarawak; HADAP PELACHOR2 DAN (4) to amend the Customs Ordinance, 1952; KONGSI GELAP ()) to amend the Treasury Bills (Local) 1. Tuan Saidon bin Kechut bertanya Ordinance, 1946; ( 6) to apply a sum of the Consolidated kapada Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Fund to the service of the year Negeri ada-kah dia sedar ia-itu anggota2 ending on the thirty-first day of Kongsi Gelap bukan sahaja menerima December, 1967; sabahagian daripada pendapatan yang (7) to amend the Municipal Ordinance; di-perolehi oleh pelachor2 yang ada di (8) to make provision for the prepa 2 ration and promotion of standards merata rumah dan hotel2 dengan me in relation to commodities, processes ngawal dan memberi "perlindongan" and practices. for the establishment kapada pelachor2 ini, malahan mereka of a Standards Institution and memaksa pula pelanggan2 dan penyewa2 Standards Council, for defining the 2 functions of the Institution and the rumah dan hotel2 ini supaya menjadi functions and powers of the Council, pelanggan peli:tchor2 tersebut; dan jika and for incidental and connected sedar, apa-kah tindakan Kerajaan ber purposes. chadang hendak ambil untok mem and transmits them to the Senate for betulkan keadaan sa-umpama ini. its concurrence. Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri (Sgd.) C. M. YUSUF, (Tun Dr Ismail): Tuan President, ada Speaker." lah satu perkara yang tidak aneh untok 803 7 NOVEMBER 1966 804 samsengl kumpulan haram mengguna Tun Dr Ismail: Saya ta' boleh meng- kan dan memeras pelachor2 dan hidup ·agak bukan saya yang membawa soal di~atas kutipan2 wang pencharian ini (Ketawa). Saya chuma menjawab mereka itu. Dalam kes2 yang telah di sahaja. buat aduan, ·perangkap atau helah2 telah di_.ator untok menangkap mereka Tuan Saidon bin Kechut: Tuan Yang yang berkenaan dan pemeras2 ugut itu di-Pertua, pertanyaan tambahan. Ada telah di-da'awa di-mahkamah. Pehak2 kah Kerajaan memang ada mengeluar yang berkuasa akan terus menerus men kan lesen pelachor kapada wanita2? chegah gerakan2 jenayah saperti ini dengan menda'awa di-mahkamah Tun Dr Ismail: Kalau ada, bagi Ke mereka2 yang di-tangkap atau dengan rajaan Perikatan kita tidak ada buat mengambil tindakan terhadap mereka perkara sembunyi2-tentu kita ishtihar di-bawah Undang2 Penchegah Jenayah. kan. Tidak-lah ada apa2 aduan di-buat oleh pelanggan2 pelachor2 bahawa mereka Tuan Abdul Samad bin Osman: di-ugut oleh samseng2 kumpulan haram Tuan Yang di-Pertua, bagi pehak supaya mereka menumpukan kechende gangster ini, sa-lain daripada Kerajaan rongan mereka ka-mana2 satu hotel menahankan gangsters ini, ada-kah atau rumah2 pelachor. Kerajaan berchadang hendak membuat satu scheme untok rehabilitate gang Tuan Saidon bin Kechut: Tuan Yang sters ini? di-Pertua, pertanyaan tambahan. Ada kah Menteri yang berkenaan dapat Tun Dr Ismail: Soal gangsters ini memberikan penjelasan sadikit, ia-itu ada-lah satu soal yang rumit dan saya biasa-nya kejadian dalam perkara per pun telah mengkaji dengan halus-nya tanyaan ini ia-lah hotel2 kelas dua dan bagaimana kita akan mengatasi soal kelas tiga yang dudok-nya agak ter ini. Yang pertama, kita telah membuat sembunyi dan sentiasa di-datangi oleh 2 2 2 mula kelmarin, kita taroh gangsters pasokan yang tidak di-ingini ini. ini di-bawah undang2 Restricted Residence. Tetapi sekarang angka2 Tun Dr Ismail: Ya-lab sa-bagaimana gangster ini sudah sampai lebeh sa yang saya katakan tadi kalau orang ribu orang, jadi langkah2 yang telah ramai atau pun taukeh2 yang punya kita perbuat ini tidak dapat memberi hotel2 itu tidak membuat pengaduan lagi maksud yang mula2 kita kehendak bagaimana saya tahu? Saya bukan-nya kan, ia-itu mengasingkan gangster2 ini ahli nujum. (Ketawa). kapada tempat2 yang mereka itu per tama2 membuat kerja sa-bagai gang Tan Sri Haji Mohamed Noah: Tuan ster. Jadi, sudah sampai masa-nya-lah Yang di-Pertua, saya sa-benar-nya hen kita menchari jalan lain dan dalam dak menujukan soal tambahan ini ka jalan lain ini, kita terpaksa berpegang pada Ahli Yang Berhormat yang m~m kapada Perlembagaan Malaysia yang bawa soal ini, tetapi, mengikut Standing mana mengata~an ia-itu tiap2 sa-orang Order, ini tidak ada membenarkan saya itu ada freedom atau ada kebebasan membuat demikian. Demikian juga, diri. Jadi, kalau satu2 langkah yang kita saya tidak juga hendak minta fikiran hendak perbuat mesti-lah kita meman dan itu pun tidak di-benarkan oleh dang daripada segi ini. Dalam pada Standing Order. Jadi saya terpaksa itu pula, saya dan Kementerian saya lah memberikan soalan tambahan ini sedang mengkaji satu jalan bagai sadikit bagini bunyi-nya boleh-kah mana kita boleh rehabilitate atau pun Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri mengkembalikan gangster2 ini supaya mengagak bagaimana ada-nya berlaku mereka boleh di-ajar atau pun di-beri anggota2 Kongsi Gelap ini memaksa satu pelajaran supaya mereka boleh penyewa2 hotel ini menjadi pelanggan berguna kapada masharakat. Jadi. pada pelachor2? Mengagak bagaimana Ahli masa ini saya tidak-Iah boleh memberi Yang Berhormat ini tahukan perkara jawapan yang lebeh ielas kerana per itu. Kalau ta' dapat mengagak ta' apa kara ini sedang di-fikirkan oleh saya lah. (Ketawa). dan Kementerian saya. 805 7 NOVEMBER 1966 806 Tuan Saidon bin Kechut: Tuan Yang Sunggoh pun tempat asal-nya ia-lah di di-Pertua, soal tambahan sadikit. Saya Amerika Sharikat, ikan2 fnis ini dapat . ingin mendapat penjelasan daripada hidup di-dalam sungai. Sa-panjang Yang Berhormat Menteri yang ber yang di-ketahui, ikan2 ini tidak ada kenaan-kalau sa-kira-nya ada pen guna-nya sa-lain barangkali untok di gaduan2 benar kejadian yang tersebut makan, tetapi sa-balek-nya ikan ini ini memang berlaku, ada-kah pen boleh menjadi musoh dan bahaya yang gurus2 atau penguasa2 rumah tumpan besar jika sa-kira-nya bilangan-nya g:rn atau hotel ini juga harus di-tudoh banyak. sama? Tuan Saidon bin Kechut: Tuan Yang Tun Dr Ismail: lni, bagi Ahli Yang di-Pertua, soal tambahan. Boleh-kah Berhormat tentu-lah ketahui, ia-itu Yang Berhormat Menteri yang ber satu2 tudohan itu bagi Kerajaan ber kenaan menerangkan kapada Rumah dasarkan demokrasi tentu-lah kita bawa ini bagaimana-kah agak-nya hebat-nya kapada mahkamah memberi hukuman. rupa ikan ini dan bagaimana dia Dalam pada itu juga bagi saya dan menangkap manusia-ada-kah di-ayer Kementerian saya, ada juga kuasa yang atau pun di-darat. besar, tetapi ta' ada-lah boleh saya hendak memberi satu atoran yang tegas Tuan Haji Mohamed Ghazali bin kapada satu soal yang umum, ia-itu Haji Jawi: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ikan tiap2 perkara itu tentu-lah akan di-kaji ini tidak-lah sa-bagaitu hebat atau mengikut case masing2• garang sa-bagai sa-ekor singa dengan sebab ia chuma sa-ekor ikan. Tetapi, MENGIMPOT ATAU MEl\IE apabila ikan ini berkumpul banyak di LIHARA IKAN "PIRANHA" dalam sa-sabuah sungai, pada 'adat kata sa-ekor lembu boleh di-habiskan 2. Tuan Saidon bin Kechut bertanya nya dalam masa kurang daripada tiga kapada Menteri Pertanian dan Shari min it. kat Kerjasama, berhubong dengan pengumuman Kerajaan baharu2 ini Tan Sri Haji Mohamed Noah: Tuan bahawa sa-siapa yang mengimpot atau Yang di-Pertua, mengikut di-dalani memelihara ikan makan orang, Undang2 ini, siapa2 yang menyimpan .. Piranha", akan di-denda $1,000 atau ikan itu kena hukum, tetapi dalam 2 di-hukum 6 bulan penjara atau kedua2- Undang ini juga saya perchaya ada nva sa-kali. Sa-hingga ini. (a) berapa sekatan tidak di-benarkan ikan2. itu banyak-kah ikan ini telah di-impot ka boleh masok ka-dalam negeri ini. Malaysia (b) ada-kah ikan ini di Bagaimana di-terangkan oleh Yang r:elihara di-kolam2 ikan atau di-sungai2, Berhormat Menteri berkenaan tadi ada dan (c) apa-kah guna-nya kapada ikan itu sa-banyak dua belas ekor manusia. bagaimana ikan itu dapat masok ka The Minister of Agriculture and Co dalam negeri Malaya ini iika ada se operatives Tuan Haji Mohamed Gha katan Keraiaan tidak membenarkan sa zali bin Haji Jawi: Tuan Yang di ekor pun ·ikan yang sa-umpama itu Pertua, mengilrut penyiasatan yang masok ka-dalam negeri ini? di-buat oleh Jabatan Perikanan Kemen Tuan Haji Mohamed Ghazali bin terian saya, hanya 12 ekor ikan Haji Jawi: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ikan "Piranha" telah di-bawa masok ka ini di-bawa sa-belum daripada sekatan dalam negeri ini. Lapan ekor daripada di-adakan, dan pada hari ini sekatan nya telah di-bawa masok ka-negeri telah pun di-ishtiharkan dan ikan ini Selangor dan empat ekor telah di-bawa tidak dapat di-bawa masok lagi. · masok ka-negeri Pulau Pinang. Semua Tuan Abdul Samad bin Osman: nya telah pun di-ramoas dan lima ekor Saya tengok dalam gambar. ikan ini daripada-nya ada-lah di-simpan di kechil sahaja. Saya hendak tanya Pusat Penyelidekan Perikanan di kapada Menteri bagaimana-kah ikan Glugor, Pulau Pinang, untok di vang kechil ini boleh makam manusia? jalankan siasatan dan yang lain2 telah Ada-kah dia makan atau di-iniek apa2 pun di-musnahkan. Ikan2 ini pemah di yang boleh jadi poison. chara mana p.:!lihara oleh orang di-dalam aquarium. yang bahaya kapada manusia? 807 7 NOVEMBER 1966 808 Tuan Haji Mohamed Ghazali bin Tuan Abdul Samad bin Osman: Haji Jawi: Tuan Yang di~Pertua, kita Maksud saya bagini. Jika ada mana2 ada pepatah mengatkan api kalau sa professor yang bersangkutan dengan kira-nya kechil menjadi · kawan kalau ikan yang meminta kebenaran Kera sa-kira-nya besar menjadi lawan. jaan untok membela sa-ekor dua untok Bagitu juga ikan ini ia-itu ikan yang research. Saya fikir benda ini patut di suka makan daging manusia kalau sa beri kerana tidak akan merbahaya kira-nya sa-ekor dua tidak menjadi kapada orang-sa-ekor dua, dia jaga mudzarat yang besar melainkan di untok research. Ada-kah Kerajaan gigit sakit sadikit sahaja, tetapi apa boleh timbangkan kalau bagitu? bila banyak ikan ini makan daging itu Tuan Haji Mohamed Ghazali bin dengan chepat-nya, dan gigi-nya sangat Haji Jawi: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sa tajam, sa-bagaimana saya kata kalau bagaimana yang saya terangkan, pada sa-kira-nya sa-ekor lembu di-jatohkan masa ini 5 ekor ada di-simpan di ka-dalam sungai dalam masa 3 minit Jabatan PenyeEdekan, Jabatan Haiwan Iembu itu habis di-makan oleh ikan di-Gelugor, Pulau Pinang. Dan sa-kira yang banyak itu, kalau sa-kira-nya sa nya · ada permintaan daripada mana2 ekor, tidak-Iah. pehak yang tertentu, itu akan di-kaji Tuan Saidon bin Kechut: Boleh-kah dan di-timbangk:an. Menteri yang berkenaan menerangkan sa-lain daripada ikan "Piranha" yang BILLS merbahaya ini, ada-.kah jenis2 ikan lain yang sama merbahaya-nya dengan ikan THE CONSOLIDATED FUND "Piranha". (EXPENDITURE ON ACCOUNT) Tuan Haji Mohamed Ghazali bin BILL Haji Jawi: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sa Second Reading hingga hari ini kita belum ada men dengar lagi. Sa-kira-nya kita men The Minister without Portfolio (Tan dengar kita akan mengambil tindakan Sri Ong Yoke Lin): Mr President, Sir, dari satu masa ka-satu masa. I beg to move that a Bill intituled "An Act to apply a sum out of the Con Tuan Abdul Samad bin Osman: solidated Fund to the service of the Tuan Yang di-Pertua, mengikut pen year ending on the thirty-first day of jelasan yang di-beri oleh Menteri sa December, 1967" be now read a second bentar tadi, ikan ini merbahaya kapada time. manusia kalau banyak, kalau sa-ekor As the Supply Bill for 1967 will not dua tidak menjadi apa. Kalau bagitu be considered by Parliament until late tidak-kah Kerajaan boleh beri ke January, 1967, it is necessary to make benaran kapada orang yang suka mem provision for expenditure in 1967 for bela sa-ekor dua untok research. the period from the 1st January, 1967, Boleh-kah di-beri kebenaran kalau ada until the date the Supply Bill for that siapa2 yang minta untok bela ikan itu untok research? year becomes law. This Bill, pursuant to Article 102 (a) of the Constitution, Tuan Haji Mohamed Ghazali bin seeks to aulthorise the issue of the sum Haji Jawi: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya of four hundred and fifty-six million berpegang kapada musoh dan Iawan six hundred and ninety-nine thousand serta bahaya jangan di-pelawa; dengan six hundred dollars from the Con sebab ikan ini ada-lah musoh besar solidated Fund for such purpose. sa-kira-nya banyak ikan ini ada dalam Sir, I beg to move. negeri dan bahaya-nya pun besar jangan-lah kita pelawa bahaya itu Dato' Y. T. Lee: Tuan Yang di datang ka-negeri ini, dengan sebab itu Pertua, saya menyokong. sekatan2 harus berlaku. Kalau sa-kira Mr President: Usul di-hadapan per nya kita tidak membenarkan orang itu sidangan Majlis Meshuarat ini ia-lah menyiasat, ikan ini tidak menjadi mer itu Rang Undang2 yang di-namakan bahaya atau mudzarat kapada sa-siapa "An Act to apply a sum out of the juga dalam negeri ini. Consolidated Fund to the service of the 809 7 NOVEMBER 1966 810 year ending on the thirty-first day of showing symptoms of DDT poisoning. December, 1967" supaya di-bachakan It is assumed that these symptoms yang kedua kali-nya terbuka bagi di might be caused by the handling, bahathkan. Tetapi saya suka meng swallowing and inhalation of DDT. ingatkan mengikut Peratoran Me It was stated by the Minister of shuarat 52 (3), saya bachakan: Commerce and Industry that only one "Provided that on the second reading of type of imported mosquito coil con a Bill (introduced in the Dewan Ra'ayat tained DDT, but it has been proved under paragraph (a) of Article 102 of the beyond doubt that many brands Constitution) to authorise expenditure for circulating in Malaysia today also part of the year, the debate shall not extend to matters of Government policy and admi contain DDT and that is the reason nistration nor to the purposes for which why there is a rise in poisoning by the sums included in the Bill are required to DDT in children and adults now. Why be expended." is the Government so slow in taking Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok: Mr action in this important matter? Is President, Sir, I believe that last August DDT coils poisonous or not? If it is I raised certain questions with the poisonous why does not the Govern Ministry of Health, and now I see that ment ban all brands of mosquito coils the Ministry of Health is allotted a containing DDT? Is the health of the sum of $43,605,000 which is not children and adults so unimportant that sufficient for certain investigations we could neglect and allow them to that the Ministry of Health is under suffer? If the lives of the people are taking. valuable to us and to the economy of Mr President, Sir, at the August the country, I think and I believe that session of this Honourable House, I it is high time that the Government brought up the cases of children and should act at once and ban all brands adults whom I found suffering from containing DDT-this is done in most DDT poisoning, caused by mosquito of the civilised countries as toxic and coils containing DDT, to the attention hazardous to human health. Will the of Honourable Senators and the Government act at once? There is Ministry of Health. I was very happy reason to believe-this is important to get an assurance from the Minister. that the fumes of poisons and irritants acting on behalf of the Ministry of like DDT may cause cancer of the nose Health, that the import of mosquito and throat so common in Asians to coils containing DDT was to be day. What is the Government waiting banned, if investigations conducted by for? the Ministry should prove them to be Tan Sri Haji Mohamed Noah bin toxic and hazardous to human health. Omar: Sir, on a point of order. The It is now over three months since the proviso of Standing Order 52 (3) says Government had given this assurance. clearly that " ...... the debate shall Sir, on the 26th October, the not extend to matters of Government Honourable Tuan Haji Abu Bakar bin policy and administration or to the Hamzah of the PMIP camplained of purposes for which the sums included this matter in the Lower House. The in the Bill are required to be ex Minister of Commerce and Industry pended." It is quite clear. I think the said in reply that it had now been Honourable Member is speaking on the ascertained that the brand of mosquito policy. coil imported from Red China had a Mr President: Not on policy but on strong DDT content and the import of administration rather. that particular brand had been suspended, but he was not sure Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok: Mr Pre whether the inhaling of smoke from sident, Sir, I am speaking on adminis that brand of mosquito coil constituted tration; it is not on the policy of a hazard to human health. He con Government. sidered that DDT was poisonous when Mr President: Yes, but you are not consumed orally. Now, more cases are allowed to do so under the Standing appearing amongst children and adults Orders. 811 7 NOVEMBER 1966 812 Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok: I know its promise to take action; and you I am not allowed to speak on the ask me to have confidence in this type policy-not administration but policy. of assurance? Tan Sri Haji Mohamed Noah bin Mr President: What you said was the Omar: It says "administration" as beginning of a debate (Laughter). we:I-under Standing Order 52 (3). Question put, and agreed to. Mr President: Yes. It says "the Bill accordingly read a second time. debate shall not extend to matters of Government policy and administra Third Reading fon." Tan Sri Ong Yoke Lin: Mr Pre (To Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok): So sident, Sir, I beg to move that the Bill you shou'.d not have spoken. be now read a third time and passed. The Min'.ster of Home Affairs and Dato' Y. T. Lee: Dato' Yang di Minister of Justice (Tun Dr Ismail): Pertua, saya menyokong. On a po:nt of order, Sir, I think I Question put, and agreed to. wou ~d go further than that. Under Stand;ng Order 52 (3) you cannot even Bill accord.ngly read the third time debate the Bill-in the Lower House and passed. we never debated the Bill at all. In fact, it is either to approve or not to THE DEVELOPMENT FUNDS approve, because Standing Order 52 BILL rnys-and this is in relation to autho Second Re:tding r:sing expenditure for part of the year "the debate shall not extend to matters Tan Sri Ong Yoke Lin: Mr Pre of Government policy and administra sident, Sir, .I beg to move that a Bill tion nor to the purposes for wh:ch the intituled "An Act to amend and con sums included in the Bill are required solidate the law relating to the Deve to be expended." So, I think, there is lopment Fund of the Federation and no debate at all on this Bill. This pro to make provision relating to financial cedure was adopted in the Lower procedure with respect to the Develop House. I think what the Senate is a5ked ment Funds of the States" be now read to do is to approve or not to approve a second time. (Laughter) the expenditure for part of Sir, this Bill consolidates the law the year. I think it is not so laughab:e relating to the Deve!opment Fund of as it looks, because what money is the Federation and makes provision asked for is only expenditure for part re'.ating to the control, management of the year. I wou'd subm;t that no and financial procedure with respect debate should take place at all. to Development Funds of the States in Malaysia. Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok: Mr Pre sident, Sir, this is not a debate. I am Part II of the Bill, wh:ch applies to merely drawing the attention of the a Federal Deve'.opment Fund, specifies Government to this fact. It is a fact what sums may be paid into that Fund that has occured. Can a member of the and defines the purposes to which they Senate not express his opinion about a may be applied; and it also proposes fact that has occurred? I am not ask that all expenditure from the Fund ing this matter to be debated-it is not must be approved by resolution of the a matter for debate. House of Representatives, passed after consideration of what will, in effect, Mr President: When you speak, it is be an Annual Deve~opment Budget; a debate. and provision is also made in this for Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok: I am provis~onal statement to be approved drawing attention to a fact that has in like manner pending the approval of occurred and it occurred last August the main Development Estimates. when I brought it to the attention of Clause 6 provides for inclusion in the this House, and the Government has statement to be so approved provision not taken action for three months since for a Contingencies Reserve. Provision 813 7 NOVEMBER 1966 814 is also made for the approval of sup Now, Sir, I would like to draw your plementary expenditure; and pending attention, if I may, to Clause 7 of the such approval mon'.es may, at the dis B.ll. This Clause, Sir, in my opinion, cretion of the Minister of Finance, be can be divided into two parts. With advanced out of the Contingencies your permission, Sir, I would like to Reserve to meet expend:ture which has read the first part which says: been incurred for the purposes of the "Every appropriation made under section Fund. 4 shall lapse at the end of the financial year, ...... " All d:recfons made by the Minister of Finance re'afng to the making of This is very good indeed-and, of advances out of the Contingencies course, usually in the case of every Reserve are to be laid before the appropriation of money, there must be, House of Representatives. or there shall be, spending. This part, therefore, refers, if I am not mistaken, Part III of the Bill applies the pro to the fact that the appropriation of visions of Part II to State Develop the Fund cannot be revoted at the end ment Funds, with the modifications of the financial year because it will shown in the Second Schedule to the lapse. Now, Sir, I shall read the Bill. second part of the Clause it says: " ...... and any balance remaining in the Sir, I beg to move. Fund shall thereafter be available for fur ther appropriation." Dato' Y. T. Lee: Dato' Yang di Sir, this means, under financial terms, Pertua, saya menyokong. if I am not mistaken, again, that the Dato' Sheikh Abu Bakar bin Yahya: balance can be revoted. Honourable Dato' President, Sir, I beg Therefore, Sir, the first part means to we'.come the introduction of this that no revote could be made, while BJ! into this House by the Honourable the second part means to tell the M:nister. w;th the introduction of this Sates, "Yes, all right, you can revote BiI:-and I am sure, Sir, that the Mini the Fund". Sir, I would like the· Mini ster must have consu'.ted with the ster to clarify which is which. I am very States concerned and the States must puzzled as to the intention of this have 'given their blessings-I would section. Thank you. ask that steps be taken by the Central Tun Dr Ismail: Mr President, s:r. Government to minimise the de:ay in the answer is quite simple. The develop providing Federal money for the ment money given to the States for var:ous States in respect of the:r deve the current year could be spent in that lopment schemes, which fall under the current year. If the money is not sp·ent, jurisdiction of the Central Government. it is not automatical:y revoted, because There were instances before, when if that were to happen, then there is money from the Central Government nothing to prevent the States accumu was so late in coming to the States lat:ng year by year the amo'Jnt ear that the projects could not be executed marked for the current year. In regard and had to be postponed to a much to the second part where it says it can later date. be revoted, that is subject to the I s:ncerely hope, therefore, Sir, that approval of the Central Government by the com:ng into force of this Bill, and that of the Minister of Finance. So, the States wJl find no cause to be dis there is nothing contradicting in that. satisfied in regard to provisions as The idea is to have Federal control on otherwise the States concerned may be Federal money allocated to the States. under the impression that this Bill Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok: Mr would not allow the usual legal flexi President, Sir, arising out of the ex bility in the implementation of their planation, I would like to know how development schemes, which are essen there cmdd be Federal control over tial and important to them but not so State money. For instance. if I am the important to the Central Government. Head of a State Government and there 815 7 NOVEMBER 1966 816 is an allocation of, let us say, $20 Perkara yang kedua, saya hendak million to my State and I have only bertanya apabila satu Kerajaan Negeri expended $18 million, so $2 million hendak meminjam wang daripada Ke will be left over and will have to be rajaan Pusat, atau pun Kerajaan Negeri revoted; I think most probably the hendak meminjam wang daripada policy would be that the $2 million left mana2 institution, atau bank dan ber over will be spent on something or on kehendakkan jaminan daripada Kera materials to be bought and kept there, jaan Pusat, ada-kah Kerajaan Pusat so that there is some purpose for using ini chuma berkuasa dengan Menteri that money, and it is not left over for Kewangan sain sahaja pengakuan-nya the Federal Government to revote. So, itu, atau pun jaminan itu dengan tidak the sum of $2 million might be a waste payah di-bawa kapada Dewan Ra'ayat, of money and might be a waste of atau pun tidak payah di-bawa kapada materials. How is the Federal Govern Cabinet, atau pun chara mana peratoran ment to control that money? yang boleh Kerajaan Pusat ini men Nik Hassan bin Haji Nik Yahya: jamin di-atas pinjaman yang di-buat Dato' Yang di-Pertua, saya hendak oleh Kerajaan Negeri? Sebab segala bertanya sadikit berkenaan dengan hal jaminan itu akan terpaksa di-bayar kewangan ini. Kita buat peratoran ber o!eh Kerajaan Pusat dan bayaran itu kenaan dengan perbelanjaan, chara hendak-lah dengan wang Kerajaan perbelanjaan untok kemajuan ini, dan Pusat. Jadi, saya hendak tahu dua peratoran ini. kita buat undang2 supaya dapat Kera jaan Pusat mengawal wang yang di The Minister of Lands and Mines untokkan bagi tiap2 Negeri itu. Saya (Tuan Abdul Rahman bin Ya'kub): hendak bertanya kira-nya sa-suatu Mengenai' masaalah yang pertama sa Negeri itu tidak dapat di-kawal, bagai kali yang di-kemukakan oleh Yang mana Kera.iaan Persekutuan meng~una Berhormat Senator Nik Hassan tadi, kan kuat-kuasa-nya untok menjaga bagaimana chara menjaminkan bahawa keadaan ini? Sebab ta' guna kita buat 2 wang yang dl-serahkan oleh Kerajaan undang sa-kira-nya kita tidak boleh Pusat kapada Kerajaan Negeri untok menjalankan undang2 itu. Umpama-nya, saya tunjokkan satu chontoh di-negeri pembangunan-itu masaalah chara Kelantan, Kerajaan Negeri Kelantan bagaimana kita untok da!am bahasa mengambil wang Kerajaan Pusat di Inggeris-nya "enforce" . peratoran kita. masokkan-nya dalam bank di-iadikan Jadi, sa-benar-nya apa yang kita buat fixed deposit dengan bertujuan hendak dalam undang2 ini ia-lah masaalah mendapat interest bagi oerbelaniaan State Development Fund yang meng State. Jadi. ini Auditor-General kata ikut Perlembagaan k:ta ada-lah masa melanggar Perlembagaan, tetapi hin~ga alah di-bawah Perlembagaan kita hari ini tidak ada satu tindakan oun masaalah Federal List, bukan masa yang di-ambil oleh Kerajaan Federal. alah State List. Jadi, dengan hal demi Jadi, saya hendak bertanya, kalau kian, Undang2 State Development Fund kita buat undang2 dan peratoran. kalau yang ada sekarang ini, boleh-lah kita undang2 dan peratoran Perlembagaan anggap sa-bagai undang2 yang tidak itu di-langgar, di-mana dudok-nya Ke mempunyai: kuat-kuasa. Dengan sebab rajaan Pusat dalam masaalah ber itu, kita buat undang2 yang ada se tindak? Boleh-kah di-bawa perkara karang ini. Jadi, Kerajaan Negeri ter itu ka-Federal Court, atau pun mesti paksa-lah, di-masa yang akan datang, kah Menteri Kewangan itu mengambil 2 sa-suatu langkah yang menasabah memansokhkan apa sahaja undang mengikut segi Perlembagaan atau dalam Negeri mengenai' State Develop undang2• atau pun aoa langkah yang ment Fund itu. Jadi, di-masa yang akan boleh di-ambil oleh Kerajaan Pusat? datang, ya'ani apabila Rang Undang2 Ini satu oertanyaan saya, sebab saya ini berjalan, terpaksa-lah tiap2 Kera tahu perkara ini tidak ada aoa oun jaan Negeri itu, mengenai: fund untok tindakan vang di-buat oteh Kerajaan pembangunan ini, mengikut sharat2 Pusat-satu. yang tertentu di-dalam undang2 ini. 817 7 NOVEMBER 1966 818 Jikalau Kerajaan Negeri ticlak men Tan Sri Ong Yoke Lin: Sir, I just jalankan kerja mereka mengikut want to make observations on two undang2 ini, maka kita boleh-lah points. The Development Fund Bill, mengambil tindakan yang sa-wajar while in the draft form, was circulated nya. Apa tindakan yang kena, itu ber to all State Governments and it was gantong-lah kapada apa dia sharat considered by the National Finance yang tidak di-ikuti oleh Kerajaan Council at its last meeting held in May Negeri. of this year. Perhaps, the Honourable Senator Nik Hassan, raised the point Masaalah yang kedua, yang telah about Federal fuads and State funds, di-bangkitkan oleh Yang Berhormat and I may add that no Federal money Senator ini tadi, ia-lah masaalah pin is given to the State for State purposes. jaman wang sama ada ini boleh di Any Federal money given to the State benarkan o~eh Minister of Finance to meet Federal programmes is kept sahaja atau pun mesti di-bawa kapada in separate bank accounts and cannot Dewan Ra'ayat dan Dewan Negara be used for State programmes. atau pun di-bawa ka-dalam Cabinet. Sa-benar-nya perkara ini tidak ada Nik Hassan bin Haji Nik Yahya: kena-mengena dengan Rang Undang2 Pertanyaan saya Tuan Yang di-Pertua, ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dengan ta'rif Kerajaan ...... sebab itu tidak-lah menghendaki ka pada jawapan saya. Mr President: Nik Hassan ta' boleh berchakap dua kali, Njk Hassan sudah Nik Hassan bin Haji Nik Y ahya: berchakap, ini bukan Committee. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya faham undang2 yang ada pada hari ini ia-lah Nik Hassan bin Haji Nik Yahya: Ya perkara yang berkenaan dengan per tetapi pertanyaan saya, Dato' fasal atoran dalam hal kewangan yang ber begini. Mengikut Perlembagaan kata kaitan dengan pembangunan negara Menteri tadi, Kerajaan Pusat hendak kita ini. Jadi pada dasar-nya saya fikir lah memberi jaminan. Jadi ta'rif Kera kita boleh berchakap dalam lengko jaan Pusat itu siapa? Ada-kah Dewan ngan dasar itu dan kita boleh bertanya Ra'ayat atau Cabinet atau Kerajaan di-dalam perkara ini. Jadi saya rasa Pusat-ta'rif Kerajaan Pusat mengikut kalau sa-kira-nya soal itu mengenai: Per~embagaan? pinjaman yang di-buat oleh State bagi Question put, and agreed to. kemajuan Negeri atau pun bagi kema juan State, jadi tentu-lah perkara itu Bill accordingly read a second time ada kaitan dengan chara dasar undang2 and committed to a Committee of the ini. Dan kalau Menteri berkenaan itu whole House. tak boleh jawab pun boleh postpone House immediately resolved itself nanti Menteri Kewangan beri jawapan kemudian. into a Committee on the Bill. Tuan Abdul Rahman bin Ya'kub: Bill considered in Committee. Saperti yang telah saya kata tadi, Tuan (Mr President in the Chair) Yang di-Pertua, ini mengenai: Develop ment Fund, ia-itu b~gaimana chara Clauses 1 to 14 inclusive ordered to Negeri2 hendak menggunakan Develop stand part of the Bill. ment Fund dengan chara terator meng First Schedule ordered to stand part ikut Perlembagaan ini. Masaalah of the Bill. pinjaman itu termasok dalaJ!l Perlem bagaan. Saya perchaya Yani Berhor Second Schedule ordered to stand mat Senator ini tentu ada membacha part of the Bill. Perlembagaan kita yang mengatakan Kerajaan Negeri itu tidak boleh me Third Schedule ordered to stand part of the Bill. minjam wang jikalau tidak ada dengan kebenaran daripada Kerajaan Pusat, Bill reported without amendment: Central Government. Itu jawapan dia. read the third time and passed. 819 7 NOVEMBER 1966 820 THE CURRENCY LAWS (AMEND the Ordinance whereby he may fix MENT) BILL customs duties to be levied on any goods imported into or exported from Second Reading the Federation. Other amendments in Tan Sri Ong Yoke Lin: Sir, I beg to this Bill are merely consequential. move that a Bill intituled "an Act to Mr President, Sir, the Minister of amend the Currency Act, 1960 of the Finance has asked me to repeat the States of Malaya and the Currency assurance he gave in the Dewan Ordinances, 1960 of Sabah and Sara Ra'ayat that he will not make addition wak" be now read a second time.' to the list of dutiable goods for im Sir, this Bill seeks to extend by six portation into Penang without first months the period during which the consu'.ting the Government of Penang. Currency Board may continue to issue Dato' Y. T. Lee: Tuan Yang di currency under the provisions of para Pertua, saya menyokong. graph (a) of clause 18 of the Malaya British Borneo Currency Agreement, Tuan Cheah Seng Khim: Mr Pre 1960. sident, Sir, and Honourable Senators, before I vote for this amending Bill, I Dato' Y. T. Lee: Dato' Yang di would like to thank Senator Tan Sri Pertua, saya menyokong. T. H. Tan for the assurance he gave Question put, and agreed to. on behalf of the Minister of Finance Bill accordingly read a second time that the State Government will be and committed to a Committee of the consulted before any new item is added whole House. to the list of dutiable goods on im portation into Penang. Mr President, House immediately resolved itself S.r. to the man-in-the-street and to the into a Committee on the Bill. public, we very much require that this Bill considered in Committee. Clause be added to the amending Bill. (Mr President in the Chair) Anyway, I think it would not cause Clauses 1 and 2 ordered to stand any inconvenience to anybody, and I part of the Bill. thmk this is very fair. Bill reported without amendment: Again, Mr President, Sir, I would read the third time and passed. like to inform Honourable Senators that the free port status was given to us many, many, years ago by the former THE CUSTOMS (AMENDMENT) Government and because of this heritage BILL the cost of living in Penang is much lower than in most States of Malaysia. Second Reading To lose the free port status is a big Tan Sri T. H. Tan: Mr President, blow for us in Penang, and compen Sir. I beg to move that a Bill intituled sa 823 7 NOVEMBER 1966 824 problems of lesser importance can be mula akan di-gunakari pada 1 hari decided on the spot. To enable the pro bulan September tahun 1967 akan posal to be implemented, the following datang, saya harap, Tuan Yang di actions have, among others, been Pertua, pehak Kerajaan sudah dapat made- membuat segala persediaan bagi mem ( a) The post of Commissioner of bawa segala Bill2 dan mengemukakan segala report2 atau laporan2 di-dalam Police, States of Malaya com 2 ponent Royal Malaysia Police, Dewan ini di-dalam kedua bahasa, has been abolished. oleh sebab pada tahun2 akan datang kedua2 bahasa, Inggeris dan M~layu, (b) The Chief Police Officers of the akan di-pakai dalam Dewan ini. Maka 10 police contingents in the dengan kerana itu kedua2-nya harus States of Malaya now come lah ada serentak baik merupakan Bill directly under the command of atau pun laporan yang di-bentangkan the Inspector General Royal 2 Malaysia Police. di-atas meja semua Ahli Dewan. (c) The creation of the post of Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya sebutkan Deputy Inspector General of tadi bahawa tanggong jawab Police Police, who will assist the pada masa hadapan nampak-nya akan Inspector General of Police in bertambah berat mengha Mt President: Rengkaskan sahaja bagi pendapat Ahli Yang Berhormat lah uchapan tuan itu. itu polis iili tidak ada kehormatan Toan Amaloddin bin Dams: Ya', lalu. Sebab-nya, kata dia yang per Tuan Yang di-Pertua, sa-buah buku tama ia-itu Polis dalam menjalankan yang saya terima sa-bagai hadiah sa kewajipan-nya jangan-lah mengambil orang kawan yang saya ta' kenal dari tindakan peribadi atas sa-saorang. Australia. Buku itu bertajok "You Kemudian kata dia yang kedua con duct atau perangai polis itu mesti-lah Can't Trust the Communist". Buku itu 2 di~karang oleh gulongan anti-kominis. sesuai dengan kehendak dan patoh Tetapi dalam itu memang betul apa kapada negara dan pemerentah. Yang yang di-sebutkan itu-saya kajikan ketiga, kata dia Polis jangan-lah me memang betul-erti-nya kominis ini nyebelah kapada sa-suatu pehak. Yang apakala dia kata, dia mesti buat. keempat atau pun yang kelima kata Bagitu-lah apa yang Chin Peng kata dia, Ahli2 Polis itu, baik daripada rank dia akan melawan sa-hingga pada and file, boleh-lah di-beri peluang orang yang akhir, dia akan buat. Dan sampai meninggi pangkat dia hingga timbul-lah gejala2 sekarang ini yang bo!eh menjadi Inspector-General. PQlis akan menghadapi-nya. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, dengan mem 2 Saya harap, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, buat hujah yang sa-macham ini nam pak-nya Ahli Yang Berhormat itu pehak Polis, dengan ada-nya tambahan 2 Timbalan Inspector-General (Merinyu tidak sa-kali menghormatkan Polis 2 kita, yang saya perchaya bukan sahaja Agong) bagi Malaysia dan perubahan 2 la~n yang akan dapat di-buat, hendak negeri ini bahkan baharu ini telah lah menghadapi mereka ini dengan mendapat tahniah yang bersar dari pada President Johnson dan juga dari chara yang lebeh berkesan, ia-itu 2 2 chara yang kalau sa-kira-nya dapat di pada Security Officer yang bersama buat bagaimana chara Indonesia telah datang ka-mari dengan President lakukan, ia-itu lebeh berkesan dari Johnson (Tepok). pada chara yang kita lakukan. Tuan Chuba-lab kita mengambil hujah dia Yang di-Pertua, sebab menjalankan yang pertama yang mengatakan ia-itu hukum liberal terhadap orang kominis polis jangan-lah mengambil tindakan yang mempunyai hukum kominis tentu peribadi, polis mesti-lah lebeh baik lagi, lah tidak tepat-kalau melawan komi mithal-nya kata dia jangan-lah polis itu nis harus-lah kita pinjam hukum komi menerajang orang2 menarek becha roda nis untok menentang kominis. Jadi, tiga dan lain2. Saya suka memberitahu kita memelihara mereka itu, memberi kapada Ahli Yang Be:hormat itu jaminan kapada mereka itu, tetapi sa-bagai Ahli Yang Berhormat, jika mereka tidak mengenal ampun kapada ada perkara yang sa-macham itu ber kita. Jadi, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, kalau laku, jika Ahli Yang Berhormat itu pehak Kerajaan dapat bertindak sa mernberi atau melaporkan yang ke keras2-nya betul-erti-nya pehak Polis jadian sa-macham itu berlaku kapada terlebeh dahulu, maka saya perchaya Inspector-General of Police, tentu negeri kita ini f dak akan menjadi tindakan yang keras akan di-arnbil medan yang besar sa-hingga melibat kapada Inspector atau pun mata2 yang kan berlaku peperangan saudara di membuat kerja yang hina sa-rnacham dalam negeri kita yang kita kasehi ini. itu, tetapi Ahli Yang Berhormat itu Tun Dr Ismail: Tuan Yang di-Per tidak hendak rnembuat pengaduan tua, apabila saya mendengar uchapan yang khas chuma suka dalarn Senate daripada Ahli Yang Berhormat tadi, ini membuat satu tudohan yang umum ia-itu dia mengatakan ia-itu tujuan yang dia tahu tindakan yang umum dia mengambil bahagian dalam baha itu ...... than ini ia-lah supaya polis2 ini boleh Tuan Amaluddin bin Daros: Tuan dapat kehormatan lebeh tinggi dari Yang di-Pertua, saya suka rnenarek pada yang ada pada masa sekarang perhatian Menteri Keselarnatan, saya ini, tetapi apabila saya mendengar tidak mahu saya di-tudoh balek ia-itu dengan teliti dan halus-nya uchapan tidak rnenghormati, saya memberi Ahli Yang· Berhormat itu, saya dapati penghormatan. Chuma apa yang saya 833 7 NOVEMBER 1966 834 tegor atau apa yang saya bayangkan ikatan, tetapi kalau Parti PAS ta'tahu umum, kerana rasa berat benar untok lah apa akan di-perbuat. saya mencheritakan sa-suatu, tetapi Tuan Abdul-Rahman bin Ya'kub: kalau sa-kira-nya Menteri yang ber Rosak! kenaan sanggup memberi peluang kapada saya, berjumpa saya, saya Tun Dr Ismail: Dan atas soal yang boleh mencheritakan bermacham2 per penghabisan sa-kali ia-itu soal militant kara lagi kapada Menteri sa-bagai sa communsim. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, orang ra'ayat yang bertanggong-jawab. saya boleh membuat lecture 5 hari atas Ada pun dalam soal melaporkan ka soal ini, tetapi oleh kerana saya ber pada Inspector-General, kapada Men pegang pada dasar saya yang perkara teri yang berkenaan sendiri pun per ini tidak patut di-bawa atas chadangan nah saya mengirim satu surat lebeh yang di-kemukakan di-sini. Jadi, saya kurang 2, 3, 4, tahun yang lalu, tetapi fikir membazir sahaja masa Ahli2 Yang sampai hari ini saya tidak menerima Berhormat jika saya menjawab apa2 jawapan daripada Menteri yang ber tudohan yang di-perbuat oleh Ahli kenaan itu. Yang Berhormat itu. Question put, and agreed to. Tun Dr Ismail: Atas soal memberi kehormatan itu chuma yang saya ke Bill accordingly read a second time tahui pada hari ini kehormatan yang and committed to a Committee of the 'di-beri kapada polis oleh Ahli Yang whole House. Berhormat itu chuma di-bibir dia House immediately resolved itself sahaja, tidak di-laksanakan baik dalam into a Committee on the Bill. uchapan dia dan gerak-geri dia. Bill considered in Committee. Atas soal yang dia mengatakan be (Mr President in the Chair) berapa kali dia telah menulis surat Clauses 1 to 5 inclusive ordered to kapada saya tidak ada berjawab, itu stand part of the Bill. tidak berma'ana yang Ahli Yang Ber Bill reported without amendment : hormat yang menghantar surat itu read the third time and passed. tindakan tidak di-ambil jika perkara2 yang di-utuskan kapada saya itu dapat di-ambil tindakan, tetapi jika bagai THE STANDARDS BILL mana kebanyakan daripada ahli2 PAS Second Reading membuat tindakan yang tidak boleh Tan Sri T. H. Tan: Mr President, di-laksanakan, chuma membuang masa Sir, I beg to move that a Bill intituled sahaja menjawab atau pun mengambil "an Act to make provision for the tindakan atas aduan yang sa-macham preparation and promotion of standards itu. in relation to commodities, processes Atas soal yang ahli2 daripada polis and practices, for the establishment supaya dapat peluang menjadi Ins of a Standards Institution and pector-General of Pplice-Inspector Standards Council, for defining the General of Police yang ada ini, kalau functions of the Institution and the Ahli Yang Berhormat itu hendak ke functions and powers of the Council, tahui, ia-lah dahulu sa-orang private and for incidental and connected pur dalam polis (Tepok). Dan pada masa poses" he now read a second time. hadapan tentu-lah soal bahasa tidak Mr president, Sir, with the rapid timbul lagi kerana bahasa kebangsaan industrialisation that is taking place in akan menjadi satu bahasa yang tulin Malaysia, it is important that the dalam negeri ini. Dan kalau sa-orang quality of our products must satisfy ahli polis biasa itu dengan menunjok the consumers both at home and kan pengalaman dan kebolehan, dia abroad. Therefore, there must be a tentu, walau pun dia chuma tahu body with legal powers- bahasa kebangsaan sahaja, akan men firstly, to lay down the standards jadi Inspector-General of Police of products, process·es and practices (Tepok). Ini memang dasar Parti Per- in Malaysia; 835 7 NOVEMBER 1966 836 secondly, to promote standardi manufacture, sale or use of any sation in industry and commerce; particular articl~. if it does not confort? thirdly, to promote industrial with any particular standards speci efficiency and development; and fication. fourthly, to promote public and The Institution will be financed industrial welfare, health and safety. from annual Government grants. How Sir, this Bill seeks to establish such ever, it will be earning money through a body which will be called the the sale of standards specifications and Standards Institution of Malaysia. The the use of its standards mark. The other governing body of the Institution will source of revenue to the Standards be a Council whose membership is Institution of Malaysia will be fees drawn from Government, the profes from membership of the Standards sional bodies, commerce and industry, Institution of Malaysia from trade and consumers and labour. The day-to-day industrial organisations and other running of the Institution, however, relevant bodies which will need to will be in the charge of an Executive become members of the Standards Committee appointed by the Council. Institution of Malaysia. It may receive donations and may, with the approval Sewral technical committees will be of the Treasury, borrow money. Proper set up to study and recommend to the accounts will be kept, audited and laid Council what standards should be before Parliament every year. adopted. Once accepted by the Council, and with the consent of the Minister, Further details of the Bill will be copyrights for such standard speci found in the Explanatory Statement fications can be applied for and be in which is attacbed to it. force for 50 years. The Council may Mr President. Sir, I beg to move. apply to the Registrar of Trade Marks Dato' Y. T. Lee: Tuan Yang di for the registration of any mark as a Pertua, saya menyokong usul ini. certification trade mark. Any person may apply to the Council to use this Dato' Dr Cheah Toon Lok: Mr trade mark in connection with any President, Sir, I think the roof is nearly product. process or practice. The sweating because of the potential Council may grant a yearly licence to energy and strength given by the use its standard mark if it is satisfied Senators towards the debating of all that the produce, process or practice. the Bills before this Honourable House. conforms with the Council's standard I am glad that Government at least specifications. It may also suspend or has thought of improving the standards revoke any licence so granted. However, of our goods in this country. It is a any person who makes any statement long time in coming, but at least it has or representations or uses anv mark come. However, I want to ask the which is likely to convey that any Government to be careful in the award commodity, or process, or practice. to a company of a pioneer industry, i.e. complies with the standards speci it should be on condition that a new fications when it does not, shall be and modern machinery should be guilty of an offence and shall be liable installed if a pioneer industry is to be on conviction to a fine not exceeding . awarded the licence. $10,000 and in the case of a continuing Sir, a new machinery need not mean offence a further fine not exceeding a modern machinery. A new machinery $100 for every day on which the might be an out of date machinery as offence is continued. has been installed in many of these The Yang di-Pertuan Agong may pioneer industries in this country-and, make rules requiring any Department therefore, the products are not up to of Government, or any public corpora the standard that we would expect of tion, to recognise and make use of a new pioneer industry. standards specifications in the exercise I would like to draw the attention of his functions and may prohibit, in of the Government to the fact that it any matter affecting the safety. health should alter its grant to these pioneer or welfare of the public, the import. industries if the machinery is not 837 7 NOVEMBER 1966 838 modern, new, and up-to-date. A new in the Council, may subsequently, for machinery may be out of date though some reason or other take a sudden it may be new, and because it is not displeasure or dislike of the person, modern and out of date, the goods who is so appointed, then he can re which are produced will not be up to move this poor man from the Council, world sandard. Here, Sir, may I know, as he then will be covered by this how will this affect the pioneer indus section. This, I should say, Sir, will tries now operating with new machine not be justifiable and fair under the ries but which are not modem machine circumstances in as much as the re ries? Secondly, will Government see moval of the members of the Council to it that these pioneer industries have is also provided by Clause 8 (2) which new and modern machineries installed, says: so that our standard will be of world "Any appointed member of the Council standard, and that we should be pro may at any time be removed from office by ducing not only for home consumption the Minister for disability, bankruptcy, neg but for export, so that we could get lect of duty or misconduct, proved to the in the needed dollars for the develop satisfaction of the Minister;"- ment of Malaysia. This is not certainly at one's pleasure or disp'.easure but because of the man's I congratulate the Government for disability, bankruptcy, neglect, etc., introducing this Bill, and I wish to etc., which must be proved before he give it my full support. However, I can be removed-not simply at the would like to ask the Government to pleasure of the person who appointed scrutinize properly the persons who are him to the Council. I would like to to be appointed to this very important have a clarification from the Minister. office of the Committee of this Standards Organisations, so that proper Mr President: The Minister con persons could be represented there. cerned is not here! people who have the "know how" and Tuan Haji Abdul Hamid Khan: people who can be trusted to carry out Tuan President, Menteri yang ber the policies and the functions of this kenaan tidak ada di-sini dan saya pun Organisation. tidak di-beri arahan berkenaan dengan Question put, and agreed to. Bill ini. Bill accordingly read a second time Dato' Sheikh Abu Bakar bin Y ahya: and committed to a Committee of the Sir, I would like this to be taken note whole House. of, so that an answer can be given House immediately resolved itself later on. into a Committee on the Bill. Question put, and agreed to. Bill considered in committee. Clauses 1 to JO inclusive ordered to (Mr President in the Chair) stand part of the Bill. Clauses 1 to 10- Clauses 11 to 29 inclusive ordered to stand part of the Bill. Dato' Sheikh Abu Bakar bin Y ahya: Honourable Dato' President, Sir, I Bill reported without amendment: would like to refer to Clause 7 and, read the third time and passed. with your permission, I shall read Clause 7 (2) on page 5 : THE MUNICIPAL (AMENDMENT) "Subject to section 8 (I) and (2), appointed BILL members of the Council shall hold office during the plea~ure of the person or body Second Reading entitled to make the appointment". Tan Sri T. H. Tan: Mr President, My comment, Sir, will be concen Sir, I beg to move that a Bill intituled trated on the word "pleasure" in this "an Act to amend the Municipal Ordi Clause. I would like to express my nance" be now read a second time. apprehension with the word "pleasure", Sir, the Bill is a simple and straight which is not justifiable here. I say so forward one, which seeks to amend because, supposing a person, who Section 29 of the Municipal Ordinance makes the appointment of a member to enable Municipalities to ·· expend 839 7 NOVEMBER 1966 840 monies for promoting the use of the WRITTEN ANSWERS TO National Language and also to expend monies, or making payments, to any .QUESTIONS philanthrophic, religious, educational MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE or other similar institutions. No pay ment, however, will be made to a AND CO-OPERATIVES member of the staff in connection with Rubber Disease or for passing the National Language examination. 1. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the Minister of Agriculture and Co-opera The suggestion to amend the Muni tives to state what other constructive cipal Ordinance accordingly was ori steps the Ministry of Agriculture has ginally made by the Consultative Com taken so far, apart from aerial spraying mittee of Municipal Corporations in of fungicide to check and arrest the September, 1964, and since then they spread of phytopthora, which has have been pressing for it. affected rubber trees in Pulau Lang As required under Article 95A of the kawi and Sungei Patani. Malaysian Constitution, the Bill has also been agreed to by the National The Minister of Agriculture and Council for Local Governments at a Co-operatives (Tuan Haji Mohd. meeting held recently. Ghazali bin Haji Jawi): Apart from Sir, I beg to move. the aerial spraying of the Phythopthora diseased areas the Ministry of Agricul Dato' Y. T. Lee: Tuan Yang di ture and Co-operatives has also carried Pertua, saya menyokong. out the collection, treatment and dis Question put, and agreed to. posal of seed pods of Hevea (para Bill accordingly read a second time rubber) and other plant materials by and committed to a Committee of the burning of other methods. Restriction whole House. has also been imposed on the move ment outward of planting materials, House immediately resolved itself particularly Hevea from the affected into a Committee on the Bill. areas. State Governments have been Bill considered in Committee. notified of the outbreak of the disease (Mr President in the Chair) in Kedah and Perlis and have been Clauses 1 and 2 ordered to stand requested to take immediate control part of the Bill. measures as soon as outbreak of the d~sease is found in their states. All Bill reported without amendment: field officers of the Department of Agri read the third time and passed. culture and the Rubber Research Institute have been directed to be on ADJOURNMENT SINE DIE the lookout for the disease. Members (MOTION) of the public, particularly the rubber p:anters and the rubber smallholders, Tan Sri T. H. Tan: Mr President, have also been advised to report im Sir, I beg to move: mediately to the nearest Agricultral That the Senate shall now stand office whenever it is suspected that the adjourned sine die. disease has occurred in their areas or Dato' Y. T. Lee: Tuan Yang di in other holdings. Pertua, saya menyokong. 2. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the Resolved, Minister of Agriculture and Co-opera That the Senate shall now stand tives, whether the Ministry has been adjourned sine die. able to detect the root cause of the Mr President: Persidangan ini di disease and can the Minister say how tanggohkan kapada satu masa yang much this particular disease had been tidak di-tentukan. able to affect (in tons) the latex yields in the Pulau Langkawi and Sungei Adjourned at 12. 10 p.m. Patani areas. 841 7 NOVEMBER 1966 842 Tuan Haji Mohd. Ghazali bin Haji of T.J.1. clones in Sarawak has Jawi: Experts are unable to pin-point never been doubted by RR.I. the root cause of the disease. Phytho experts and that budwood nur pthora palmivora which gives rise to series established in Sarawak the recent leaf-fall and pod-rot disease have been certified by them. of rubber is known to cause other plant diseases in Malaya. It is attri Electricity Authorities, Sarawak buted' that the outbreak of the disease 4. Tuan Andrew Jika Landau asks the on rubber could be due to unfavour Minister of Commerce and Industry able climate (excessive rainfall) con whether he would consider amalgamat ditions and/or the development of a ing the Sarawak Electricity Supply new strain of the fungus. There has Corporation with the National Electri been no considerable drop in latex city Board so as to enab:e the emp yield of the affected areas. Tapping loyees of both these Bodies to enjoy was temporarily suspended only in uniform conditions of service. some cases. Dr Lim Swee Aun: A central co ordinating Body called the Malaysia MINISTRY OF COMMERCE Electricity Council has been set up AND INDUSTRY early this year to advise the Govern Rubber Clones ment, among other things, on the desir 3. Tuan Andrew Jika Landau asks the ability of having a common Electricity Minister of Commerce and Industry: Legislation throughout Malaysia from which the three Electricity Autho (a) why high-yielding rubber clones rities-the National Electricity Board. planted under the Rubber Plant the Sarawak Electricity Supply Cor ing Scheme do not in fact pro poration and the Sabah Electricity duce the latex up to expection; Board-could derive similar powers, ( b) whether he would order an functions and duties but each Authority inquiry into this failure; could have separate regulations to meet (c) whether planters could be in its own circumstances. There is no formed of how to distinguish doubt that the Council, in formulating genuine high-yielding rubber the Legislation, will look into matters clones from common rubber relating to conditions and terms of seedlings. service of the employees in the three The Minister of Commerce and Electricity Authorities. Industry (Dr Lim Swee Aun): Releases of GSA Stockpile (a) Rubber in Planting Scheme areas 5. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the in tapping is planted with the Minister of Commerce and Industry then RR.I. recommended T.J.I. to state in view of the perpetual threat clonal stumps or other budded to our two main products-rubber and clones. These seeds were obtained tin-whether he would make a state from Gardens in Western Malay ment on the discussions between the sia approved by RR.I. The dis Deputy Prime Minister, Tun Haji appointing yields could be due to Abdul Razak and the United States shallow tapping of young rubber President recently on releases of GSA trees or poor maintenance by stockpile of these two products in order smallholders during growth to to reassure public confidence. maturity. Dr Lim Swee Aun: Full publicity has ( b) The Hon'ble Senator is kindly been given in the local newspapers on requested to specify instances. the recent discussions between the My advisers assure me that pro Deputy Prime Minister and the Presi perly managed estates should dent of the USA on the releases of give satisfactory yields. GSA stockpile rubber and tin and the (c) Recognition of rubber clones is a action already taken by the GSA. In specialised skill. However, it view of this I do not consider that a should be noted that the purity statement from me is required. 843 7 NOVEMBER 1966 844 MINISTRY OF CULTURE, YOUTH Teachers' Panel AND SPORTS 8. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the Minister of Education to announce the Beauty Contest full list of members of the reconstituted 6. Tuan Saidon bin Kechut bertanya National Joint Council for Teachers kapada Menteri Kebudayaan, Belia (Teachers Panel) indicating the union in dan Sokan ada-kah Kerajaan bercha each case and whether the full NJCT dang hendak mengikut jejak langkah has held meetings with dates of such Kerajaan Negeri Selangor dengan meetings. mengharamkan achara memileh Ratu Tuan Senn bin Abdul Rahman: The Chantek dengan pakaian "bikini", dan full list of names of representatives jika tidak, ada-kah Kerajaan akan 2 constituting the Teachers' Panel of the membenarkan wanita Malaysia me NJCT and the Union which each makai pakaian "Bogel Dada" di represents are as follows: khalayak ramai. I. Association of Teachers of English in Chinese Menteri Kebudayaan, Belia dan Schools Enche' Wong Soong Sokan (Tuan Senu bin Abdul Rah· Meng man): Ada-lah kuasa membenarkan 2. National Union of Chinese peraduan Ratu Chantek ia-lah kuasa School Teachers Enche" Tong Lee Poh 2 3. National Union of Heads bagi satu negeri. Maka terpulang-lah of Schools . . Enche' Phang Piang kapada Kerajaan Negeri itu menentu Fah kan apa chara pakaian yang boleh di 4. Kesatuan Kebangsaan Guru2 Lepasan Maktab/ pakai di-masa peraduan itu di-jalankan. Pusat Latehan Harian, P.T.M. Enche' S. Ramasamy 5. National Union of Tamil MINISTRY OF EDUCATION School Teachers of Malaya Enche' M. Sinnadurai 6. National Union of Tea- chers Enche' Gurnam Singh Malay Language Teachers 7. Kesatuan Pcrsekutuan Guru• Malaya, P.T.M. . . Enche' Kassim bin 7. Dato' Haji Pengiran Mohamed Ha run Digadong Galpam bertanya kapada 8. Kcsatuan Guru2 Bahasa Menteri Pelajaran ada-kah beliau akan Kebangsaan, P.T.M. Enche' Othman bin menimbang menghantar lebeh ramai Abd. Majid 2 9. Kesatuan Kebangsaan lagi guru Bahasa Melayu mengajar di Guru• Sekotah Kebangsaan Enche' Johari bin Hj. Sekolah2 Kebangsaan di-Sabah untok Alias mengatasi kekurangan guru2 bahasa to. Staff Side National Whit- ley Council (Divisionl-IV) Enche' S. Thamurat- Melayu di-negeri itu, pada masa ini. nam 11. Malayan Teachers Union Enche' D. R. Daniel Pemangku Menteri Pelajaran (Tuan Senn bin Abdul Rahman): Saya sedar No meeting has been held yet. tentang kekurangan guru2 Bahasa Melayu di-Sabah dan saperti yang di Report of the Special Committee on the ketahui oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat Unified Teaching Service sendiri masaalah ini tidak dapat di 9. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the atasi dengan serta merta kerana di Minister of Education to state in view kehendaki masa beberapa tahun untok of the threatened strike by the National mengadakan guru2 yang terlateh. Union of Teachers, if he would Waiau bagaimana pun Kementerian accelerate publication of the report of saya telah memberi sebarang per the Government Committee appointed tolongan yang boleh bagi mengatasi to examine the problems of teachers kesulitan ini dengan chara mengadakan and make recommendations promised beberapa orang pensharah untok last June and refer the report to the melateh guru2 di-Sabah mengajar NJCT for negotiations in order to Bahasa Kebangsaan. Selain daripada reduce tensions amongst teachers. itu kemudahan2 bagi melateh guru2 di Tuan Senn bin Abdul Rahman: The Maktab Perguruan Bahasa di-Kuala Special Committee appointed by Lumpur ada juga di-beri kapada Cabinet to study and review the oenuntut2 dari Sabah. principles of the Unified Teaching 845 7 NOVEMBER 1966 846 Service and some other problems con menyumbangkan sadikit sa-banyak cerning teachers has submitted their terhadap belanja pembangunan-nya report. The Ministry of Education has sendiri. made a very close study of the Com It is not possible to reply to such a mittee's Report and recommendations. general quest~on as customs duties of But in view of the fact that these 25 % or more are imposed over a wide recommendations involve radical range of imports into Sabah. The changes with heavy financial commit attention of the Honourable Member ments, it has been decided to refer the is however drawn to paragraph 24 (1) matter to Cabinet for a decision. My of the Report of the Inter-Govern Ministry is now preparing a Cabinet menta l Committee, 1962 which contains Paper on the matter and will submit it a provision that "the level of Federal to Cabinet for consideration and taxation in the Borneo States should decision after getting the views of the be brought up to Federation of Malaya interested Ministries and departments. levels in graduated stages". Under these After having obtained the Cabinet circumstances, it is not possible to give decision on the matter, the subject will a general undertaking that import be further negotiated in the NJCT. duties in Sabah will be reduced to the level prevailing before the formation MINISTRY OF FINANCE of Malaysia. Furthermore, the Central Government is putting into Sabah, in Import Duties the form of development expenditure. 10. Dato' Haji Pengiran Mohamed far more than what it is getting out of Digadong Galpam bertanya kapada it in the form of Federal revenue and Menteri Kewangan ada-kah beliau it is only fair that the people of Sabah akan menimbangkan mengurangkan shou!d be asked to contribute some chukai impot sa-banyak 25% yang di thing towards the cost of its own kenakan ka-atas barang2 yang di-impot development. ka-negeri Sabah itu kapada kadar chukai yang di-kenakan sa-belum MINISTRY OF HEALm Sabah masok ka-dalam Malaysia. Health Clinics Menteri Kewangan (Tuan Tan Siew 11. Tuan Andrew Jika Landau asks the Sin): Tidak-lah dapat di-beri jawapan Minister of Health whether his Minis kapada pertanyaan yang bagitu 'am, try would build additional health kerana chukai2 kastam sa-banyak 25% clinics in Kuching and Sibu to cope atau lebeh di-kenakan ka-atas ber with the need of the increasing popula bagai2 jenis b:irang yang di-impot ka tion in these towns. Sabah. Bagaimana pun, di-minta Ahli The Minister of Health (Tuan Yang Berhormat itu mengambil per Rahaman bin Samsudin): Yes and they hatian terhadap perenggan 24 (1) La are included in the current development poran Jawatan-kuasa Antara-Kerajaan, programme. 1962 yang mengandongi satu sharat ia itu "tingkatan perchukaian Perseku MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS tuan di-Negeri Borneo hendak-lah di naikkan ka-tingkat Persekutuan Tanah Film Censorship Melayu dalam peringkat2 yang ter 12. Tuan Cheah S~ng Khim asks the tentu". Oleh hal yang demikian, maka Minister of Home Affairs to state, tidak-lah dapat di-beri jaminan sa whether the Board of Film Censors, chara 'am bahawa chukai2 impot di when examining a film which involves Sabah akan di-turunkan ka-tingkatan a particular religion, would hold prior yang ada sa-belum Malaysia di-tuboh consultation with the religious body kan. Tambahan lagi, Kerajaan Pusat concerned; if such prior consultation is memberi Sabah, sa-chara perbelanjaan held whether such a film would still be pembangunan, jauh lebeh banyak dari released for public showing despite pada apa yang ia perolehi daripada objections raised by the reI;g:ous body; nya sa-bagai basil Persekutuan, dan if no such prior consultation is held. ada-lah adil meminta ra'ayat Sabah why. 847 7 NOVEMBER 1966 848 The Minister of Home Affairs (Tun pegawai2 Malaysia sa-chepat mungkin Dr Ismail): In discharging their duties dengan berpandukan ada tidak-nya the Board of Film Censors when cen pegawai2 tempatan yang layak dan soring a religious film is guided by the berpengalaman bagi memegang jawa principle that the film in question is tan2 itu dan juga memandang kapada not contrary to the teachings of the tempoh2 perkhidmatan yang sa-sing particular religion concerned and often kat2-nya yang di-berikan kapada seeks the advice of the relevant reli pegawai2 dagang yang berkenaan. gious body in the country before Of the 57 duty posts for gazetted making a decision. Sequences which are officers in the Sabah Component of the deemed to be offensive from the reli Royal Malaysia Police, 19 only are gious point of view are deleted. If, held by expatriate police officers. These however, the film is altogether con comprise: sidered to be unsuitable for public (a) 8 officers who are Sabah State exhibition it will not be released by officers on secondment to the the Board. Federal service under Article Police Officers 56 (1) of the Sabah State Consti tution and whose continued 13. Dato' Haji Pengiran Mohamed service for the minimum period Digadong Galpam bertanya kapada offered to them by the Sabah Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri ada State Government is protected kah beliau akan menggantikan semua 2 by Section 84 (1) (b) of the pegawai dagang yang memegang Malaysia Act; jawatan dalam jabatan polis dalam negeri Sabah sekarang ini, dengan (b) IO officers on short-term con pegawai2 Malaysia. tracts which are due to expire between now and mid-1968; and Tun Dr Ismail: Daripada 57 jawatan (c) 1 officer on loan from the States bertugas bagi pegawai2 Polis di-Raja of Malaya who is due to retire Malaysia di-Bahagian Sabah, yang ter by the end of 1967. chatet dalam Warta Kerajaan, 19 It is intended that the 19 posts held jawatan sahaja yang di-pegang oleh 2 by these officers will be Malaysianised pegawai2 polis dagang. Jawatan ini as soon as it is possible to do so having terdiri daripada: regard to the availability of suitable (a) 8 orang pegawai ia-itu pegawai2 experienced local officers for the posts Negeri Sabah yang di-perbantu and to the minimum periods of service kan ka-perkhidmatan Persekutuan granted to the expatriate officers menurut Perkara 56 (1) Per concerned. lembagaan Negeri Sabah dan yang Fire-crackers perkhidmatan mereka itu sa 14. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the chara terus menerus bagi tempoh 2 Minister of Home Affairs whether the yang sa-singkat -nya yang di ban on fire-crackers would be lifted tawarkan kapada mereka oleh during the Hindu festival of Deepavali, Kerajaan Negeri Sabah, ada-lah this year, to enable the Malaysian di-lindongi oleh Sekshen 48 (1) 2 Indians to celebrate their festival like (b) Undang Malaysia; their counterparts of other racial (b) 10 orang pegawai dengan kon origins in this country. terek jangka pendek yang akan Tun Dr Ismail: The firing of fire tamat di-antara sekarang dengan crackers is permitted during festival pertengahan tahun 1968; dan days and the ban will therefore be lifted (c) 1 orang pegawai di-pinjamkan during the Hindu festival of Deepavali dari Negeri2 Tanah Melayu yang this year, as was done last year. It must, akan bersara sa-belum peng however, be stressed that a Ch:ef Police hujong tahun 1967. Officer or a Commissioner of Police as Ada-lab di-chadangkan ia-itu ke the case may be, may reimpose the ban sembilan belas jawatan yang di-pegang in cases where security is seriously oleh pegawai2 ini akan di-ganti dengan endangered. 849 7 NOVEMBER 1966 850 15. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the MINISTRY OF LABOUR Minister of Home Affairs whether he The Essential (Trade Disputes in the has received any request from any Essential Service) Regulations section of the Indian community, parti 17. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the cularly from the leaders of Malaysian Minister of Labour to state if he would Indian organisations, to lift the ban on now favourably consider the revocation fire-crackers during Deepavali. If so, of the Essential (Trade Disputes in the can he name such organisat'.ons. Essential Service) Regulations, 1965 Tun Dr Ismail: As far sa I am introduced in May 1965 which was aware, I have received no such request. introduced as an interim emergency As the firing of fire-crackers is per measure. mitted during festival days, such a The Minister of Labour (Tuan request would appear to be superfluous. V. Manickavasagam): The withdrawal of these Regulations will be considered MINISTRY OF INFORMATION at the appropriate time. AND BROADCASTING Penang Port Workers Information Department, Sandakan 18. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the 16. Dato' Haji Pengiran Mohamed Minister of Labour to state if he has Digadong Galpam bertanya kapada received from a section of workers at Menteri Penerangan dan Penyiaran, Penang Port a petition protesting memandang kapada penting-nya pera against the arbitrary introduction of a nan yang di-mainkan oleh Perkhid discriminatory employment scheme by matan Penerangan. dapat-kah beliau the newly established Penang Dock menimbang, Labour Board which deprived employ ment to a section of the traditionally (a) membesarkan lagi Pejabat Pene employed port workers and what rangan, di-Sandakan, dan action he had taken or contemplates (b) melateh bumiputera2 tempatan taking to absorb into the scheme all yang berbahasa daerah itu untok port workers entitled to participate in berkhidmat dalam Jabatan" Pe the scheme. nerangan negeri Sabah. Tuan V. Manickavasagam: It should, Menteri Penerangan dan Penyiaran first, be pointed out that the regis (Tuan Senu bin Abdul Rahman): tration scheme of stevedoring emplo yers and workers introduced in the 1. Perkara membesarkan lagi Pejabat Port of Penang with effect from 1st Penerangan di-Sandakan itu me October, 1966 is neither arbitrary nor mang-lah menjadi tujuan Kemen discriminatory. The scheme has been terian saya. Beberapa Yunit introduced under an Act of Parlia baharu akan di-tempatkan di-sana ment, the Port Workers (Regulation of tidak lama lagi untok membantu Employment) Act, 1965 and after Yunit yang sedia ada di-dalam consideration by the Port Labour tugas2-nya memberi penerangan 2 Board which consists of independent kapada pendudok di-sana. persons and representatives of port 2. Dasar mengenai pengambilan employers and workers. The scheme kaki-tangan2 bagi berkh'.dmat aims at reducing the multiplicity of dalam Jabatan2 Penerangan di employers and workers in the Port of negeri Sabah ada-lah jelas. Sa Penang, to define the status of port berapa yang boleh pendudok2 workers for the purpose of the various tempatan ia-itu anak2 Sabah labour laws and to secure for them sendiri akan di-ambil. Ha-nya apa some degree of security of employment bila jawatan2 yang ada itu tidak and earnings, through a process of dapat di-isi oleh pendudok2 tem registration of both employers and patan baharu-lah permintaan2 dari workers and decasualisation of the warganegara Malaysia yang lain excessively casual employment there. akan di-layan. This implies that those who can show 851 7 NOVEMBER 1966 852 that they have been engaged in port Ministry of Labour-MTUC Relations work and are dependent upon it for 21. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the their livelihood will obtain priority in Minister of Labour to state, in view registration as compared to those of the concern felt by unions over open whose interest and employment in the clashes between the Ministry and the port is essentially casual and merely to Malaysian Trades Union Congress, as supplement their earnings elsewhere. ventilated in the Press, whether he This is the universal principle of would make determined efforts to bring decasualisation and has been strictly about improved relations between his adhered to in the Port of Penang. Ministry and the MTUC before the The Board, after exhaustive study situation deteriorates to an irretrievable of the activity of the Port came to the point. · conclusion that a total of 1.326 Tuan V. Manickavasagam: I am not stevedores was sufficient to ensure the a ware of any serious clash between the efficient performance of Port work and MTUC and my Ministry to warrant accordingly registered this number. I concern nor is there any question that am satisfied that the vast majority of there is any deterioration in the relation workers who allege that they have not ship between the MTUC and my been registered were not dependent on Ministry. Port work for their entire livelihood. The Board is keeping the number of Industrial Court Chairman stevedores registered under review and, 22. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the if the extent of Port activity can justify Minister of Labour to state whether he the registration of more stevedores, the could now announce ihe name of the Board will necessarily have to consider Chairman of the Industrial Court. this step. Tuan V. Manickavasagam: The name of the Chairman and members of the Federation of Transport Workers' Unions Standing Industrial Court have been 19. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the published in the Gazette as G.N. Minister of Labour to give the reasons No. 4153 and No. 5154 respectively for the refusal by the Registrar of on 15th September, 1966. Trade Unions to register the proposed federation of transport workers' unions Mining Companies comprising the Transport Workers 23. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan: asks the Union, the Harbour Trade Union, the M.nister of Labour to state whether Airlines Employees Union and the the two mining companies in Kedah Penang and Province Wellesley Steve employing 340 workers, have since doring and Dock Workers Union for compied with the recommendations of which an application was made. the Commissioner for Labour for the provision of a common dispensary and Tuan V. Manickavasagam: The a qualified dresser as recorded in the Registrar has not received such an monthly report of the Ministry of application. Labour for August, 1966. Tuan V. Manickavasagam: Steps Statistics of Unemployment have been and are still being taken by 20. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the these Companies to comply with the Minister of Labour to disclose figures recommendations of the Commissioner of unemployment separately in respect for Labour. of: Workmen's Compensation (a) Plantations and 24. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the (b) Mines, Minister of Labour to state, arising during the third quarter of 1966. from the pathetic case of the widow of a deceased workman not being able Tuan V. Manickavasagam: Such to obtain payment of a single cent from figures are not available in the Ministry the award of Workmen's Compensation of Labour. of $6,850 because the employer died 853 7 NOVEMBER 1966 854 an undischarged bankrupt (Monthly give reasons for the delay in introducing Report of the Ministry of Labour for the Scheme. August, 1966) whether he would favour Tuan V. Manickavasagam: A ably consider introducing legislation Colombo Plan Expert is now studying which would make it compulsory for the matter with a view to submitting all employers to take out adequate recommendations to the Government insurance policies to meet claims under for implementation. The delay in this the Workmen's Compensation Ordi matter was due largely to the difficulty nance, No. 85 of 1952. of obtaining a suitable person to make Tuan V. Manickavasagam: My such a study. I expect to receive the Ministry is exploring the possibility of Expert's report in a few month's time recovering the amount due to the and will then give the substance thereof widow. every consideration. The workman concerned in this case was employed in logging industry in MINISTRY OF LANDS AND which compulsory insurance is already MINES required by the Workmen's Compensa Chinese Buddhist Cemetery tion Ordinance, 1952. 28. Tuan Saidon bin Kechut bertanya Trade Union Structure kapada Menteri Tanah dan Galian 25. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the ada-kah Kerajaan sedar ia-itu oleh Minister of Labour to state whether kerana tanah perkuboran Orang2 China the action which he had taken or yang berugama Buddha tidak di-hadkan contemplates taking, in consultation luas-nya, maka negara kita mungkin with the Malaysian Trades Union tidak chukup tanah pada masa hada Congress, to regroup the much-maligned pan, dan jika sedar, apa-kah tindakan "peanut unions" into broader unions Kerajaan berchadang hendak ambil conforming to international union dalam perkara ini. classifications. Menteri Tanah dan Galian (Tuan Tuan V. Manickavasagam: I am not Abdul Rahman bin Ya'kub): Saya rasa awar·e of any such standard or widely ada-lah tidak benar untok mengatakan accepted international union classifi bahawa tanah perkuboran Orang2 cation. I am, however, now reviewing China yang berguama Buddha di-buka the trade union structure in this country dengan tiada had luas-nya, dan saya with a view to giving it some rationa tidak perchaya Negara kita akan lity. mengalami kekurangan tanah di-masa Plantation Workers hadapan akibat dari perkuboran Orang2 26. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the China yang berugama Buddha itu. Minister of Labour to state whether Diamond Drill in Sarawak the Honourable Minister will give up 29. Tuan Andrew Jika Landau asks the to-date figures of plantation workers, Minister of Lands and Mines to state with the break-down figures of their the expenditure already incurred in racial origin, who have been thrown connection with the operation of out of employment due to sub-division Diamond Drill in Sarawak and whether, and fragmentation of estates. as a result of this operation, commer Tuan V. Manickavasagam: I regret cial minerals have been discovered. that up-to-date and accurate figures in Tuan Abdul Rahman bin Ya'kub: this regard are not available in my The expenditure incurred in connection Ministry. with the operation of "Diamond Drill" Social Security Scheme in Sarawak in 1965 was $38,700. No 27. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the minerals of commercial value have Minister of Labour to state whether been discovered. the Honourable Minister will disclose Government Committee on Fragmentation the date or the month in which he of Estates expects the introduction of the much 30. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the delayed Social Security scheme and Minister of Lands and Mines to state 855 7 NOVEMBER 1966 856 if he would favourably consider the Menteri Kerajaan Tempatan dan Peru immediate revival of the Government mahan memandangkan ra'ayat Sabah Committee on Fragmentation of Estates tidak sesuai tinggal di-rumah2 pangsa with a directive to consider urgent dan ia-itu negeri Sabah mempunyal measures for preventing further frag tanah yang chukup bagi mendirikan mentation of estates. rumah sa-buah2 ada-kah Kerajaan Tuan Abdul Rahman bin Ya'kub: akan membena rumah sa-buah2 dengan I do not consider it necessary to revive halaman yang luas untok berchuchok immediately the Government Com tanarn dan berternak. mitte on fragmentation of Estates Menteri Kerajaan Tempatan dan since the Committee had already exa Perumahan (Tuan Khaw Kai-Bob): mined the problem very thoroughly Hingga sekarang Kementerian ini and had submitted its report and telah meluluskan dua projek peruma recommendations which were subse han harga murah untok Sabah. Projek quently presented to Parliament with di-Sandakan akan rnengandongi 300 a Government Statement thereon under buah rurnah papan sa-buah sa-buah Command Paper No. 29 of 1963. bertiang di-bena di-pinggiran laut. I would also like to draw the atten Permintaan bagi projek ini datang tion of the Honourable Senator to daripada Kerajaan Negeri sa-bagai Section 136 (1) (c) of the National Land yang di-kehendaki oleh ra'ayat. Code which reads as follows : Tender bagi projek ini telah di-beri "136. (1) No subdivision shall be kan. Projek kedua, yang telah di approved by the State Commissioner luluskan pada dasar-nya, ia-lah di or, as the case may be, Collector Tanjong Aru. Projek ini mengandongi unless the following conditions are 320 yunit rumah pangsa 4 tingkat. satisfied-- Perrnintaan bagi projek ini juga datang daripada Kerajaan Negeri dan oleh (c) without prejudice to the genera itu ada-lah dengan menurut kemahuan lity of paragraph (b)- Kerajaan Negeri. Sunggoh pun Sabah (i) that any necessary approval mempunyai tanah lapang yang luas, of any planning authority namun tidak-lah benar mengatakan has been obtained, and Sabah mempunyal tanah Kerajaan 2 (ii) that the sub-division would yang chukup di-kawasan yang sesuai, terutama-nya di-kawasan2 bandar, not be contrary to any 2 plan approved by the State untok mernbena rumah sa-buah sa buah harga murah. Ada-lah di-faham Authority for the develop 2 ment of the area in which kan ia-itu harga tanah di-kawasan pekan ada-lah sangat tinggi dan oleh the land is situated, or to 2 any decision of any plan itu apa tanah yang ada pada Kerajaan Negeri untok membena bangunan2 ning authority for that 2 area, and hendak-lah di-gunakan bagi kerja pembangunan yang mendesak. Ke (iii) if the case falls within any menterian ini tentu-lah akan rnenim direction in that behalf bang apa2 permintaan membena rumah given by the State Autho sa-buah sa-buah dengan halaman-nya rity, that the sub-division yang chukup untok berchuchok tanam has the consent of any dan bertemak jika ada permintaan body or authority specified bagi projek2 yang demikian daripada in, or appointed by, the Kerajaan Negeri. direction;". Up to date this Ministry has MINISTRY FOR LOCAL approved two low cost housing projects GOVERNMENT AND HOUSING for Sabah. The project in Sandakan will consist of 300 detached timber Housing Projects houses built on stilts on the sea front. 31. Dato' Haji Pengiran Mohamed The request for this project came from Digadong Galpam bertanya kapada the State Government as being one ------857 7 NOVEMBER 1966 858 which was desired by the people. belum lagi melihat apa2 hasil yang Tender for this project has been nyata daripada ranchang2-usaha pem awarded. The second project, which bangunan luar bandar, ada-kah Kera has been approved in principle, is in jaan berchadang hendak melanjutkan Tanjong Aru. This project consists of ranchangan2 pembangunan yang telah 320 units in 4-storey flats. The request di-jalankan dengan jaya-nya di-Malay for this project also came from the sia Barat ka-Sabah. State Government and therefore is in Menteri Pembangunan Negara dan compliance with State Government's Loar Bandar (Tun Haji Abdul Razak): wishes. Although Sabah may have vast Yang Berhormat itu menyatakan tracts of land, it is not however true bahawa dalam dua tahun yang lalu, to say that Sabah has adequate State ra'ayat Sabah belum lagi dapat melihat land in suitable locations, particularly apa2 basil yang nyata daripada Ran in urban areas, for the construction of changan2 Usaha Pembangunan Luar low cost detached houses. It is under Bandar. Sukachita saya menyatakan stood that the cost of land in town di-sini bahawa kenyataan yang saperti areas is very high and therefore what ini ada-lah tidak benar dan mengeliru ever land the State Government has for kan oleh kerana dalam dua tahun yang building purposes should be for high lalu Kerajaan tdah pun membelanjakan density development. The Ministry wang saperti berikut bagi melaksana will certainly consider any request for kan Ranchangan2 Usaha di-kawasan2 the construction of detached houses Luar Bandar di-Sabah: with adequate compound for gardening 1965 ...... $ 750,000 and poultry-rearing if request for such projects are made by the State Govern 1966 ...... 1,000,000 ment. Wang di-atas ada-lah di-belanjakan bagi membena J alan Kampong, Balai Commissioner for Local Government Raya, Perigi, Jambatan, Padang Per 32. Tuan Andrew Jika Landau asks the mainan, Bangunan Tamu, Ranchangan2 Minister for Local Government and Taliayer di-merata kawasan di-Negeri Housing whether his Ministry would Sabah termasok-lah kawasan Kinaba consider appointing a Commissioner tangan. for Local Government for Sarawak Suka juga saya menyatakan bahawa and Sabah respectively. di-dalam Ranchangan Malaysia Per Tuan Khaw Kai-Bob: I do not consi tama, Kerajaan Persekutuan telah pun der it necessary that a Commissioner menguntokkan sa-banyak $373.6 juta for Local Government should be bagi Negeri Sabah untok melaksanakan appointed for Sarawak and Sabah Ranchangan2 Jangka Panjang saperti: respectively nor do I think both these (i) Ranchangan membuka tanah ba States do want such an appointment haru (21 Ranchangan Besar dan as otherwise they would have initiated 225 Ranchangan Kechil); action in this regard. (ii) Jalan Raya dan lain2 chara per I might add that the present Com hubongan raya saperti Lapangan missioner for Local Government West Kapal Terbang, Keretapi, Pela Malaysia is always available to these bohan; two States for advice on any matter on Local Government. (iii) Pelajaran dan latehan; (iv) Lain2 Ranchangan Umum dan MINISTRY OF NATIONAL AND Kebajikan saperti Rumah Sakit. Kelinik2, bekalan ayer, bekalan RURAL DEVELOPMENT lampu letrik, dan lain2 lagi. Rural Development Projects Saya chadangkan juga supaya Yang 33. Dato' Haji Pengiran Mohamed Berhormat melawat ka-daerah2 di Digadong Galpam bertanya kapada Negeri Sabah dan saya perchaya Yang Menteri Pembangunan Negara dan Berhormat sendiri akan dapat melihat Luar Bandar, memandangkan sa-lama Ranchangan2 tersebut yang telah pun dua tahun yang lalu ra'ayat Sabah menjadi bukti bahawa Negeri Sabah 859 7 NOVEMBER 1966 860 tidak-lah ketinggalan di-dalam melak suatu jumlah yang boleh di-belanjakan sanakan Ranchangan2 Pembangunan dengan patut-nya, berpadan dengan untok faedah dan kemudahan ra'ayat kedudokan kaki2-tangan yang ada Negeri Sabah. pada masa ini di-Sabah. Kumpulan2 Wang ini di-untokkan khas-nya bagi MINISTRY OF TRANSPORT mengadakan suatu tulang belakang Penang Port Commission perjalanan utama micro-wave, dari 34. Tuan S. P. S. Nathan asks the Jesselton ka-Tawau menerusi Sandakan Minister of Transport to state in dan Lahad Datu, dan juga bagi mengadakan ibu-sawat utama otomatik view of the allegation made by a 2 workers' representative in the Industrial di-pusat besar perdagangan dan Arbitration Tribunal that the Penang perusahaan dan ini akan membolehkan Port Commission had done nothing to sistem talikom berkembang mengikut lojik ka-kawasan2 luar bandar pada fight "dirty" private competition in the 2 Port of Penang, what action he had tahun yang akan datang. taken or contemplates taking to remedy Berkenaan dengan perkhidmatan pos this situation. pula, segala chara pengangkutan The Minister of Transport (Tan Sri melalui udara dan darat ada-lah di Haji Sardon bin Baji Jubir): The gunakan dengan sa-luas2-nya. Ada-lah findings of the Industrial Arbitration di-akui bahawa pengiriman pos patut Tribunal appointed to enquire into the di-lanjutkan dan ini sedang pun di dispute between the Penang Port jalankan sa-berapa yang boleh. Kawa Commission and the Penang Port Com san2 luar bandar pula ada-lah di-layan mission Employees' Union will be dengan membuka sa-mula wakiJ2 pos published in the near future. It would, di-mana2 t,empat yang boleh di-buka. therefore, be improper at this stage to comment on the allegations made by Telecommunications inadequacies the union representatives at a sitting have been studied in 1963 by Depart of the Tribunal. ment Engineers and also in 1966 by three experts from the I.T.U. It is MINISTRY OF WORKS, POSTS estimated that to bring the present AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS system up to acceptable standards would involve an expenditure in the Telephone, Telegupb and Postal Services order of $45 million. 35. Dato' Baji Pengiran Mohamed Digadong Galpam bertanya kapada Under the First Malaysia Plan an Menteri Kerja Raya, Pos dan Talikom expenditure of $19.6 million has been ada-kah beliau akan menimbang put in for telecommunications develop menyiasat atas kekurangan dalam ment in Sabah. This figure represents perkhidmatan2 talipon, taligerap dan an amount which can sensibly be pos di-negeri Sabah dengan tujuan expended with the present staff situa hendak membaiki-nya. tion in the State. These funds are provided in the main for a micro Menteri Kerja Raya, Pos dan Tali wave backbone trunk route from Kom (Tan Sri V. T. Sambanthan): 2 Jesselton to Tawau via Sandakan and Kekurangan dalam khidmat talikom Lahad Datu and to provide main telah di-kaji dalam tahun 1963 oleh 2 automatic exchanges in the major Jurutera Jabatan tersebut dan dalam centres of trade and commerce thus tahun 1966 oleh tiga orang pakar2 enabling the logical expansion of the l.T.U. Ada-lah di-taksirkan bahawa system to rural areas in future years. untok membawa sis.tern yang ada With regard to Postal Services maxi sekarang ini kapada suatu darjat yang mum use is being made of air and boleh di-terima, akan melibatkan per 2 surface methods of transportation. It is behnjaan kira $45 juta. recognised that postal delivery should Di-bawah Ranchangan Malaysia be extended and this is being done Yang Pertama, perbelanjaan sa-banyak wherever practicable. The rural areas $19.6 telah di-untokkan bagi kemajuan are being catered for by reopening talikom di-Sabah. Angka ini berupa postal agencies wherever practicable. 861 7 NOVEMBER 1966 862 Roads in Sarawak Tan Sri V. T. Sambanthan: There is 36. T Jan Andrew Jika Landau asks the no plan to construct a commemorative Minister of Works, Posts and Telecom bridge spanning the Sarawak River in munications to state the average cost Kuching town during the First Malaysia borne by the State of Sarawak for Plan period. maintaining the State's roads at the minimum standard determined by the PRIME MINISTER'S Federal Government in accordance DEPARTMENT with Article 109 of the Malaysia ConsUution. Minority Races 38. Tuan Andrew Jika Landau asks the Tan Sri V. T. Sambanthan: This is Prime Minister what efforts have been a matter for the Sarawak State Govern taken to improve the living conditions ment to reply. of the Punans (Penans) in particular and the minority (nomad) races who A Bridge in Kuching have lost contact with civilisations. 37. Tuan Andrew Jika Landau asks the The Prime Minister: This is the first Minister of Works, Posts and Telecom time that I have heard of the existence munications to state the tentative year of the Punans (Penans) and the nomad for the construction of a commemo races in Eastern Malaysia. rative bridge spanning the Sarawak However, I will get_in touch with the River in Kuching Town under the First State Government of Sarawak to see Malaysia Five-Year Plan. what should be done for them. 12943-441-26-6-68.