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The Charmingly Ruthless Ex-FIA President Is in a Mischievous Mood MAX MOSLEY The charmingly ruthless ex-FIA president is in a mischievous mood. On the agenda: the closure of McLaren, ‘nonsense’ bloggers and his problem with F1’s new tracks. But he’d happily buy Ron a beer and reckons Bernie should be knighted… WORDS HANS SEEBERG PORTRAITS ANDY TIPPING ome on, let’s go for lunch gentlemanly manners straight from A couple of hours in Max Mosley’s – then we can have a good a 1960s Bond film. Even his fiercest company make it almost impossible to old gossip about all the detractors would concede that he has a believe that he could be capable of the “C things I couldn’t say into that very specific charisma about him, and sort of ruthless leadership that’s been Dictaphone!” Max Mosley has spent an it’s a trait that makes it rather disarming associated with him since he became hour answering all your questions in his when the clinical precision of his legal president of the FIA back in 1993, but FIA office overlooking Monaco’s Casino mind launches into a dissection of Luca don’t be fooled: everything he says is Square; every query has been dispatched di Montezemolo, Ferrari or the woes of meticulously considered. This is a man with his trademark charming brutality. ‘Spygate’. It’s like Tony Hart suddenly who is not afraid of upsetting people, Mosley is quite a contradiction. He speaking with the bludgeoning clarity as you’re about to witness over the is softly spoken, with classic British of Gene Hunt from Ashes to Ashes. following pages… Ü 042 F 1 R A C I N G M A Y 2 0 1 0 F1 RACING M A Y 2 0 1 0 043 should succeed. But, unfortunately, in charge, it would never have got to that was already saying then that we needed the FIA is not in a position to insist stage. The classic case of people saying we to do something about safety. But the that this should be the case. favoured Ferrari was the barge boards, conventional wisdom was that it was which were legal if they were at a slight perfectly safe and we hadn’t killed anyone Why did you always tend to angle to the chassis and illegal if they for 12 years. You think, ‘Maybe if I’d favour Ferrari so much? were vertical. Now I think that they were pushed a bit harder…’ because they were Martin Wellbelove, UK probably vertical, but we took them off to completely unnecessary deaths. I liked Why have you got it in for something else to do. So, in the end, it What we want is innovation.” Well yes, We never did favour Ferrari, although look at them, and then it was possible for Ayrton too. I had this strange meeting Ron Dennis so much? was just better to stop. of course we all want innovation, but there was this perception that we did. Ferrari to say, ‘No, they were at a slight with him once in Japan – it was very soon Paul Cullen, UK if it’s allowed to go unchecked it puts After I’d been in the job for a few years, angle’, and they got off on that basis. We after I’d been elected and he’d been very I really haven’t. There’s this theory that I Was there ever anyone in Formula 1 Formula 1 out of business. It’s all very I developed a very good relationship should have impounded the entire car, rude about my predecessor Jean-Marie don’t like Ron and it’s simply not true. that you totally trusted, and did well to say people can do what they like with Jean Todt: I knew he didn’t tell me but you live and learn and we would never Balestre. Ron wanted him to apologise On a personal level, he and I get on they trust you? technically, but if they’re going to go lies, and I think he knew the same. You make that mistake again. but there was no way he was going to do perfectly well, but clearly ‘Spygate’ has Barry Coldbreath, UK bankrupt in the process and you end up could go to Ferrari and they would be that. So Ayrton came to see me and I said, something to do with the perception. Yes… I totally trusted Jean Todt, Gerhard with just three teams competing, then it’s completely honest and open with you; How hard did you take Ayrton “Ayrton, there are two kinds of people in It’s nothing to do with liking or disliking Berger, Franz Tost, Frank Williams… and no good. Formula 1 is all about out-and- most of the other teams wouldn’t do Senna’s death personally? this world: amateurs and professionals. Ron, but I think he made a mistake. I’ve probably forgotten somebody I wish out competition, but you can only really that, so that created a certain perception Gavin Malewski, UK An amateur does something because he He should have come to us at the very I hadn’t. Bernie? Um… you could trust have that if you have a cost-cut… yet but it didn’t mean we favoured Ferrari. Strangely enough, I would say that I feels like it; a professional does something beginning and said, “Look I’m really there’s one team that’s been adamantly But you see, lately, Ferrari is not run probably took Roland Ratzenberger’s because it aids whatever it is that he’s sorry, we’ve got this information. We opposed to that, and that’s Ferrari. by Todt but, essentially, by Luca di death on the same weekend even more trying to do. What you did about Balestre shouldn’t have it and I’m going to take And, in my view, the reason they have Montezemolo. Luca is very, very good personally because I thought he’d never was amateurish.” He thought for quite a whatever steps to correct it,” instead been adamantly opposed to a cost-cut with people and he’s certainly a very had a chance and never made it. I went long time and he said, “You’re right.” Then of coming to the World Council and is because they’re not prepared to take personable, pleasant person but, in my to his funeral while all the celebrities his eyes welled up and he said, “What you saying, “Nobody knew except Coughlan,” on the other teams on an equal basis. opinion, he’s also a very weak character went to Ayrton’s, because I thought that don’t understand is that I’ve been doing which later turned out not to be true. Back between January and May in 2008, so he’s easily led. He allowed himself to somebody should. But I was really sad this since I was six years old, and that man So that was very unfortunate. But there we had a series of meetings with all the get into a situation of conflict between because, in the end, you know that you took a race and probably a championship was nothing personal about it – it’s just chief financial officers of the teams, and Ferrari and the FIA whereas if Todt were have a degree of responsibility, and I away from me.” In the end, we cobbled Ü the way things were. I hope and think everyone was agreed on the cost-cap and that if I bumped into Ron in the street on the methodology – but Ferrari were we’d go off and have a coffee together. Current FIA president Jean Todt has Mosley’s “total trust” always against it. I think it’s because they Or a beer maybe. know that if they had the same amount Bernie… [pauses for 17 seconds] Bernie of money to spend as the other teams, What took you so long to step down can be trusted, with the proviso that in they would fail. as FIA president? the final analysis he will always look after Thomas Guilfoyle, USA his own interests, whereas that would If you had to share a taxi with Ron Well, I did step down in 2004, but the not necessarily be the case with the other Dennis, Flavio Briatore or Luca di FIA membership told me there had to be people I mentioned. Did they trust me? Montezemolo, who would it be and a succession. I told them I wanted Jean You’d have to ask them. why? Or would you rather walk? Todt to be my successor and, obviously, Richard Ginn, UK it’s a matter for the FIA to elect him or Were you aware that there was a Well firstly I’d have no problem getting not. Originally, in 2005, he was going campaign on Twitter last year to in a taxi with any of them, but if I did to stand and I wasn’t, but then he got get you out of office called ‘Max have to choose – and this may sound offered the big job at Ferrari and I had Out’? How does it feel to know that strange – I’d say Flavio. If it was a long no choice but to continue. But I did so many F1 fans were against you? taxi ride he would probably be the most actually do it for five years longer than Sarah Green, UK entertaining companion. I wanted to. I was always going to stand If the fans really understood the issues, down in 2009, and the only thing that I don’t think they would be against Who was responsible for your put that slightly into question was when me, because everything I’ve ever done personal life ending up in the Luca [di Montezemolo] started saying, has always been done with a view to newspapers? “We’ve got rid of him.” Of course, at keeping Formula 1 going and stopping Richard Walsh, Ireland that point, it was tempting to go on for it collapsing.
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