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[Eighth Series, Volume XXXv, Tenth Session, 198811909 (Saka)

No.2, Tuesday, February 23. 1988IPhaJguna 4, 1909 (Saka)

COLUMNS

<~troduction of Ministers 1-3

. Oral Answers to Questions: ~9

·Starred Questions Nos.: 1 to 6 and 8

Written Answers to Questions 39-440

Starred Questions Nos. : 7 and 9 to 20 39-56

Unstarred Questions Nos. : 1 to 9. 11 to 77, 79 to 166, 168 to 178.180 to 207, 209 to 217 and 219 to 230

Papers Laid on the. Table 440-454

Announcement by Speaker 454--457

Assent to Bills 457-462

Resignation by Member 482

Committee on Public Undertakings- 463-464 Thirty .. Fifth Report-presented

Railway Convention Committee- 464 Tenth-Report-presented

Matters Under Rute 3n- 464-471

(i) Need to review the Drugs Price Control Order, 1987- 464-465

Shri Raj Kumar Rai

(ii) Need for the Union Government to bear the cosfof 465-488 Master Plan prepared by the Government "f Ofissa to

'c· 'The Sign t marked above the nama,of a MernlMtr Indicates that the question W8IIICIUally eked on the floor 01 the House by that Member. (Ii)

COLUMNS save Chifka fake from siltation-

Shrimati Jayanti Patnaik

(iii) Need to provide more funds to the Government of 466--467 for drinking water schemes-

Shrimati Usha Choudhari

(iv) Need to increase the quota for reservation at certain stations 467-468 in Orissa on trains going towards Calcutta, Bombay and Oelhi-

Dr. Krupasindhu Bhai

(v) Need to take quick remedial measures to avoid recurrence 468-469 of devastating floods in North Bihar-

Dr. G.S. Rajhans

(vi) Need to bring cotton under the comprehensive crop insurance 469-470 scheme-

Shri V. Sobhanadreeswara Rao

(vii) Need to taka over Mavoor Rayons industry in Calicut district 470 of -

Shri Thampan Thomas

(viii) Need for early setting up of T. V. relay centres in hilly regions 470-471 of Uttar Pradesh-

Shri Harish Rawat

Statutory Resolution As: Approval of Proclamation in Relation to the State 471-547 of Tamil Nadu -

Shri Buta Singh 471-473 531-547 Shri E. Ayyapu Reddy 473-476

Shri P.ft Kumaramangalam 476--481

Shri Th~pan Thomas 481--487 (iii) COLUMNS Shri Sharad Dighe 487-494

Shri P. Kolandaivelu 494-503

Shri C. K. Kuppuswamy 503-507

Shri N.V.N. Somu 507-513

Shri R. Jeevarathinam 513-519

Shri Suresh Kurup 519-520

Shri N. Sundararaj 520-526

Dr. V. Rajeshwaran 526-529

Parsi Marriage and Divorce (Amendment) Bill- 547-557

Motion to consider-

Shri H. R. Bhardwaj 547-550

Shrimati N.P. Jhansi Lakshmi 550-552

Shri V.S. Krishna Iyer 552-553

CI aus'es 2 to 20 and 1 555-557

Motion to pass, as amended-

Shri H.R. Bhardwaj 557-558

Repealing and Amending Bill- 557-567

Motion to consider, as passed by Rajya Sabha

Shri H.R. Bhardwaj 557-558

Shri Ajit Kumar Saha 558-559

Shri V.S. Krishna Iyer 559-561

Shri H.A. Dora 561-562

Clauses 3 to 4 ard ~ ~v)

COLUMNS Motion to pass, as amended-

Shri H.R. Bhardwaj 562-565

Authorised Translations (Central Laws) Amendment BiII- 567-578

Motion to consiqer-

Shri Chintamani Panigrahi 567-568

Shri G. Bhoopathy 568-569

Dr. Sudhir Roy 569-570

Shri Virdhi Chander Jain 570-573

Shri V.S. Krishna Iyer 573-574

Prof. Saifuddin Soz 575-578

Business Advisory Committee- 579--580

Forty~Eighth Report-presented DEBATES

LOKSABHA [English]

INTRODUCTION OF MINISTERS

Tuesday, February 23, 19881 Phs/guna 4, 1909 (Saka) MR. SPEAKER: The Hon. Prime Minis.. ter.

THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI RAJIV The Lok SabJ?a milt at Elev9n of th9 Clock GANDHI): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have pleasure in introducing to you and through you to the [MR. SPEAKER In the Chair] House my colleagues, the new Ministers.

MINISTERS Of CABINET RANK

Shri Mati Lal Vora The Minister of Health and Family Welfare and Minister of Civil Aviation.

Shri Bindeshwari Dubey The Minister of Law and Justice

Shri Dinesh Singh The Minister of Water Resources

MINISTER OF STATE

Shri c·. K.Jaffar Sharief The Minister of State in the Department of Coal in the Ministry of Energy

Shri Hari Krishna Shastri The Minister of State in the Department of Agricultural Research and Education i,n the Ministry of Agriculture

Shri LP.Shah; The Minister of State in the Departments of Education and Culture in the Ministry of Human Resource Development

PEPUTY MINISTERS

Shri D.l Baitha The Deputy Minister in the Ministry of Food and Civil Supplies

Shrl Mahabir Pr.aiJ 'The Deputy Minister in the Ministry of Railw. s Oral AnSW91S FEBRUARY 23, 1988 0,.1 Answers 4 ' Shri P.. Namgyal The Deputy Ministor in the Ministry of Surface Transport.

Shri Radha Kishan Malaviya The Deputy Minister in the Ministry of Labour

Shri Rafique Alam The Deputy Minister in the Ministry of Petro- leum and Natural Gas

Shrimati Sumati Oraon The Deputy Minister in the Ministry of Welfare

The following Ministers have been elevated in rank:

Shri Ram Niwas Mirdha

Shri Sukh Ram

Shri Z.R. Ansari

Shri Biren Singh Engti

Shri Giridhar Gomango

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTiONS TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM):(a) to (c). A statement is given below. [English] STATEMENT Industrial Licences to Top Ten Large Industrial Houses Statistics on industrial licences issued are maintained in respect of the undertak- ·1. SHRt RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: ings registered under the MRTP Act. A total Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased of 229 industrial licences were granted dur- to state: ing the calendar years 1986 and 1987 to various MRTP undertakings. Similar statis- (a) the number of industrial licences tics in respect of industrial Houses have, Issued to top ten large Industrial Houses however, not been maintained on a regular during the last two years; basis. Of the 229 industrial licences referred to above, 72 licences were granted to under- (b) the details of the projects for which takings belonging to the top ten industrial thesa licences have been issued; and Houses ranked according to their assets in 1986. (c) the names of large Industrial Houses which were granted industrial li- Details, such as name & address of the cences for steel during the last two years? undertaking. location, item(s) of manufac- ture involved and capacity etc., in respect of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE all industrial licences issued ar. published DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- regularly by the Ir-dian Inves~nt Centre in OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS .. their ·Monthly Nawslettar'. CapiM of this 5 Oral AnswelS . ' PHALGUNA4, 1909 (SAKA) Oral AnsWSlS 6 publication being sent to the Parliament are 1 2 Library regularly. Thapar 18 . (c), One industrial licence was granted during 1986 to Mis Tata Iron & Steel Co. Ltd. Mafatlal 3 for effecting substantial expansion in their existing unit at Jamshedpur, Bihar, for the. Modi 2 manufacture of Saleable Steel for.m 17.4 lakh tonnes to 21 lakh tonnes. larsen and Toubro 9

[Translation] M.A. Chidambaram 2

SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: Mr. 8ajaj 3 Speaker, Sir, from the perusal of the state- ment it appe~rs that my, question has not () been answered correctly. In my question, I have asked the number of industrial licences SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: Mr. issued to top large ten Industrial houses Speaker, Sir, the hon. Minister has stated during the last two years. The hon. Minister the number but did not mention the items to has not answered to this part of my question be manufactured for which the licences have and has asked me to go through the details been issued. Our public sector has got suf.. in the library. What is the reason that the hon. ficient potential. I fail to understand that even Minister does not know about it? I want the after the instructions form the Prima Minister answer of this question in this House. to strengthen the public sector, licences have been issued to private sector which at Further I want to know the number of times indulge in under-production, ovar- licences issued during 1986-87 to Birlas, production and scarcily to sell the goods in Oalmias, Tatas, Goenka Brothers, Thapar blackwmarket. This adversely affects the and ITC for manufacture of different items? public sector ...

[English] MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Ram Bhagat Paswan, listen to one thing. leaders of all SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM: Sir, during the parties and groups have declined that a 1986-87, the total licences given were about supplementary question will be given two 1090. Out of these 1090, 229 were given to minutes. I will not allow you beyond that. It MRTP companies. We have given 72 li- will be applicable to all. cences to the top ten MRTP houses. They are as follows: SHRt RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is very important. I would like 1 2 to say that for the licence issued to Birlas recently for setting up an Steet Plant at a cost Birtas 14 of Rs.700 ercre. as per rules, the Chairman of the Stael Authority of should have Tatas 11 been consulted.

Raliance 3 Secondly. when F.e.1. and tF.F. are engaged in fertiliser production. then why J.K.Singhania 9 licence for fenlOse, production has been 7 Ora/ Ans"rs FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Oral Answers 8 ,la,sued to Birlas.lndian Oil, Bombay High are already running in profit. Evan the Birlas [English] have been given a share in it. I.T.C ... SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM: Out of the MR. SPEAKER: You go on speaking. I 72 licences, 30 have been given to the will disallow. backward areas. We are stipulating that condition, wherever necessary. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: During drought, a licence has been given to manu- SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY: I facture. This results in evasion of excise would like to know whether Reliance has duty .•• sought an industrial licence to make paraxy- lene. It is one of the top business houses (English] which are covered during the course of this question. Has Reliance actually sought a MR. SPEAKER: Disallowed; No ques- licence for making Paraxylene; and if so, tion; it is finished. what action has been taken?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI . J.VENGAL RAO): Regarding the policy for SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: That is a differ- giving licences to MRTP houses, MRTP ent question; how can we answer it here? companies are allowed to enter only core- industries which are capital and technology SHRI BHATIAM SRIRAMA MURTY: intensive, which are listed in Appendix I of This question has got everything to do with the Government's policy statement of 2nd the licences which are either given, or which February 1976. This list which had originally are now pending consideration with the , 19 items has been expanded, and now it Government. contains 31 items. If an MRTP company wants to enter areas outside this list, it has to MR. SPEAKER: You can put another % take an export obligation of 60 • However, question. in the interest of the development of back- ward areas .. (Interruptions) we are allowing SHRI BHATIAM SRIRAMA MURTY: If the establishment in backward areas in the he has no information, lat him say that, Sir. 25% export obligation. MR. SPEAKER: You put another ques- [ Trans/ation] tion. I will get it answered. Now Dr. Tripat~i.

'B' and 'C' Category districts and nil in SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: The question 'No Industry Districts' here is; how many licances were given for ten big business houses. The answer with SHRI MADAN PANDEY: Mr. Speaker. regard to Reliance is that wa gave three Sir, as regards.tha licences to be issued to licences totally; and for the backward .areas, M.R.T.P. Houses and :others, may 1 know One. If there is a specific question, I will 1rom the hon'ble Minister whether a condi- answer it. tion of setting up factories in backward areas win be laid down for issuing licences to DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRIPA- M.A.T~P. Houses. ? It is not being done. THI : The minister has said that statistics on What are the reasons therefore? industrial licences issu~d. are maintained in

•• Not recorded. 9 Oral Answers ·'PHALGUNA 4,' 1909 (SAKA) , Oral AMwell·· 10

resp~et ofthe undertakings registered under tenders continue to be eligible far ~ 15% the MRTP Act. But he has not stated what is priCe preference over _the lowest technically the total number of undertakings which are qualHied foreign offer. registered under the MRTP Act. Secondly. it i~ not clear why, when the number of (b) and (c) Do not arise. undertakings registered with MRTP are more than ten, only ten are being given SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: The shipping· licences. I want to know this from the hon. industry has just undergone dramatic expe- Minister. rience of long depression. A loan of Rs. 800 , crores has been pending against the ship- SHRI M.ARUNACHALAM: 'A$ on , ping company in ·this field. We have created 31.12.87, there are about 1663 MRTP a new agency for financing these units of the Companies in the country registered with the shipping inoo$try and the shipping Invest~ Government of India. We haVE;! given li- ment Corporation. It took up a study of 17 cences to other MRTP Companies also. companiel;; and it recommended winding up There are 229 licences given to the MRTP of 9 of these companies. In view of this sad Companies in India. Ten top houses have condition in the shipping industry, we cannot been given only 72 licences. expect them to compete in global te.nder8. In view of this, will the Minister be kind enough Withdrawal of Concession to Indian to give top priori~y to the Indian shippers Shipping Companlas while giving contracts?

"'2. SHRr Y.S.MAHAJAN: Will the Min- SHRI BRAHMA DUTT: We are already ister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS giving price preference to the Indian compa- be pleased to state: nies. But we cannot compromise on quality and also I have to compara the price. Re- , (a) whether the special priority granted cently from 15 per cent to 35 per cent price to Indian Shipping Companies for supplying prefarence was being given. This is being drilling, offshore supply vessels and multi- liberalised even more. I don't think underth. support vessels at a 15 per cent price prefer- liberalisad concession system. the· lode- ence to the Oil and Natural Gas Commission genous industries wilt have any difficulty. has been with drawn and they will have to participate in the global tendering under- taken by the ONGC: SHAt Y.S. MAHAJAN: I completely agree with the concessions given by the hon. (b) If so, on v, hat considerations this Minister. There are other difficulties aJao. concession to the Indian Shipping Compa- Much of our tonnage, much of our shipping nies has been withdrawn; and is over .. aged and they cannot compete with international companies; their costs are (c) what will be the financial repercus- high. Therefore, I want to know in order to sions of this decision on the working of the give a boost to Indian shipping whether the Indian Shipping companies? hon. Minister will think of giving them c0n- tracts for a period of at least five years so that THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE they can build up new ships? . MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU.. RAL GAS (SHIR BRAHMA DUlT): (a) No. SHRJ BRAHMA OUTT: To give t"'m Sir, Domestic Companies offering oil fl.1d contracts for a period of five yea.... is already services to ONGC and OIL ag~in81 global in the policy. 'FEBRUARY 23,1988 ,Oral Answers. 12 SMRI ANANDA GAJAPATHI AAJU: [English] Last 'tima when you were examining the objectives in the corporate plan of the ship- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ping industry we found that there was no MINISTRY OF 'FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- corporate plan. There was just a projection PLIES (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) The total ~ figures given upto 2000 AD. In fact, Ship.. stock of foodgrains with the public agencies pjng hu not been given any encouragement as on 1st January, 1988 was estimated at whatsoever in terms of converting loan into 14.14 million tonnas. equity. What are the steps that are going to be takan by the government to see that (b) and (c). The stocks available are shipping is further encouraged and these adequate to meetthepresent requirement of trends do not appear again? the public distribution system. There is also regular replenishment· of stocks through SHRI BRAHMA DUTT: I cannot answer procurement operations. Further, the Gov- this question as it is a separate question. I ernment is also keeping open the option to can only tell what the Department of P!ltro- import foodgrains as and when considered Jaum and Natural Gas has to do . necessary.

SHAI ANADA GAJAPATHI RAJU: It is SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESWARI: Is it not audible. a fact that the reserves of foodgrain have declined from 23 million tonnes to 15 million MR. SPEAKER: There is another ques- tonnes during the month of July 1987; if so, tion on shipping and the other Minister will what are the steps which the government answer it. propose to take to fulfil this deficit of foodgrains? Is there any target fixed for rice [ Translation] and whet during the Rabi season?

Foodgraln R••• rv •• My second question is how much foodgrains have been allotted to *3. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES- during these three years of drought. I would WARI:'t like to know whether India has lost much SHAI PARASRAM BHARO- foodgrains due 10 non-availability of storage WIU: capacity and not havjng proper storage capacity and proper transit arrangements. If Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL so, what steps the G_overnment propose to SUPPLIES be pleased to state: take to have proper storage and transit facili- ties? These are my two questions. a) the latest position of foodgrain re- serves in the country; SHRI SUKH RAM: Sir, as far as the availability of the foodgrains is concerned, (b) whether keeping in view the present the requirement of the buffer stock is 20.1 drought situation, Government have million tonnes as on 1st January 88. Against adequate stock of foodgrains to meet the that, 14.14 million tcnnes of foodgralns is requirements of the country; and available in our stock and the shortfall is only about 6 million tonnes. I hope this will be off- (c) if not, the measures proposed to be set in the next rabi season and ongoing taken by Government to deat with the situ.. kharif,season. As far as the storage capacity

atlan? I. cxmcerned t th~. is a policy that we ant 13 Oral AnsMis PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA) Oral AMwell 14 constructing additional storage capacity also so that whatever is the requirement of SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Sir, h. the buffer stock is stored at different places. may be having the information with him If you want to know about the present stor- because this is connected with shortage of age capacity. I can supply it to the hon. fQod. Member. This is a long list of godownes situated at different States. SHRI SUKH RAM: The hon. Member has supplied ~his information. I am not aware· SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESWARI: Sir. about this complaint . He has supplied this I have asked another question what is the information. I will definitely look into it. total aUotment of foodgrains-· to Karnataka during these three year~ of drought? SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH: Sir, for the past number of years. we have been SHAI SUKH RAM: As far as the sup- producing more foodgrains that we requir~ plies to Karnataka is concerned, if the han. for domestic consumption and today we are member gives a separate notice, I will fur- in very happy position as we have a iarge nish the required information .. buffer stock. May I know what effect such a':' happy situatlon has had on the per capita SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Sir, I would consumption in the country? Has that ~n.. like to know whether because of the short- creased or remained static? age of stock in foodgrains, have you sup- plied the rice and wheat which is not good for PROF. MAOHU DANDAVATE: Be-·· human consumption? Such stores have cause it is less. their buffer stock is I~ss.. reached Kerala and complalnts were made .., to the Government and Government were SHRI SUKH RAM: As far as the per compelled tq sell it on auction and then again capita consumption is concerned, the Infor- that came back to the market through the mation is not available with me at the rile- private channel when it was auctioned and ment. But I agree with the. .~on. member that taken by the people instead of destroying it. in view of this buffer stock available with us, Has it been noticed by the Governm~nt that we could tide over the very difficult situation such an instance has taken place and what on account of severe drought and flood this steps you have taken In this matter? This y~~r and we could supply the foodgrains to was reported in the press that because of the all the States according to ~heir requirement. shortage of food, a lot of.,unconsumablqJood was supplied especially to the Sou~h. This [ Tra.nslation] was objected. and subsequently it was auc- tioned and private parties took it and they SH-RI VIRDHI CI-tANDER' JAIN: Mr. brought it to the mark;et through the.r own· Speaker, Sir. Rajasthan ,Is the ~rst drqugt,t channel which was suppoaed to lupply affepted $1ate. The public Distribution Sys- through the ration shops of public distribu- tem is ir1 :vogue,,· in our districts of Barma" t.ion system. Has the Government noticed Jaisafmar ~ Jodhput. I had via~ed She,- ,. this and what steps the Government has garh areB of ~odhpur where form 5 kg. to 1 taken in this matter? kg. wheat is ~oiHg supplied to each person every rftonth. Aatasthan is the worst affected SHRI SUKH RAM: The han. Member area ·and haS been facing grave scarolty has supplied thl. information. I wiff look into conditions~ but the Central Government is It. not supptying whe{It. according· to .the r. quirements of the State. What ar. the ,ea-, ·80n81herefor? , , ' "15 ' 0tW~~,. FE~UARV·23. 1988 , oral Anawens ' ·:18 , ;SARI,SUKH RAM: Mr.: Speaker. 'S~r, , " prop$r attention will be pa~ to lhe·~atter. ,. Public D~r~ution System Ie'~the .tata sub.. " ject. The system has tp b. run and monitored As regards the point regarding the" .bJ the Stat. GOveI'r\lMnt. We keep on con- supply of foodgrains at conc~ssio"al rates 1tiCtlng. the states every now' and than and raised by tha hon. Member, it is submitted .' ... .., try to monitor the system. So far as that the Government is already supplying ',.aotm-"t of foodgratns to Rajasthan is con- foodgrains to the vulnerable'sections and :Qe",~. I think that. though the exact figures the poor people through Public Distribution ..... nOt available with me, Rajasthan lJas System and the Government is subsidising . . been allotted the maxiJT'um qu~otitY of to the extent of Rs.2000 crores. I do' not foodgrains. Keeping in view s~veie drought understand what more is expected to be conditions there, Rajasthan ·has been allot- done by the Central Government. We are tad the maximum quantity'of foodgrains. The giving foodgrains to the poor people at per capita allotment ,to Rajasthan Is more concessional rates. than that made -to any other State. [ Translation) SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hon. Minister has stated that the quantity Price Fixation of Sugarcane In U.P.

of foodgrains. needed' is available. in the , Government godowns, I want to ask the hon.- .~. SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA: Will Minister, through you, that what arrange- the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES ments have been made and what plans have be pleased to state: been formulated to save the foodgrains in storage which is eaten away by the rats and (a) whether prices of sugarcane In ,mongooses or get rotten due to other rea- Western and Eastern districts of Uttar .. sons. May I know whether the Government Pradesh have been fixed at Rs.27.00 and proposes to do something in this regard? Rs. 26.50 per quintal respectively; , The area effected by drough is inhabited by -poor people who are very much worried and (b) if so, the reasons for this disparity; facing starvation. The Government of and Karnataka are supply- (c) whether he has taken any initiative ing foodgrains to such people at conces- with the State Government to. bring uniform- sional rates. May I know whether the govern- ity in the prices of sugarcane; if so, tHe ment of· India has only plan to supply outcome thereof; . foodgrai"~ at cOncessional rates? May I also know whether the Gov$rnment has fOrmu- , (d) wh~th9r Government are consider- lated any such plan and if not, the time by ing any proposal to ensure in future uniform .. , which the Government proposes to do so? ity in sugarcane prices; and

SHRI SUKH RAM: So far as the anxiety (e) whether prices of sugarcane have of the hone Member regarding foodgrains been increased in proportion to the recent getting rotten is concerned, I may submit that hike of Rs.25 per qUintal in sugar prices; if the loss position of foograins in transit and not, the reasons therefor? storage has Improved form 2.3 per cent in 1982.. 83 to 1.63 per cent during 1986-87. But [English] Itm,·1f any sort of wastage or other irregulari- ties are brought to the notica of the Govem- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ment by the hon. Members of this august MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- Houle, concrete actIOn will. be taken and ,pUES (SHR' SUKH ~: (a) Ind b). The PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (.SAKA) Oral AnswelB 18 qu.ntum of State-advised prides Is decided Rs. 25/- per quintal is prlmarilv the result of antlr.ty by the Stilte Governments con", this increase in the statutory minimum price 'cemed and the Cent.~~1 Government is not of sugarcane and the manufacturing cost of involved. sugar.

(c). This point ~~~-raised by the hon'ble [ Translation] Member in a d;scus~tgn in the Lok Sabha in ,. -13C' December,1987 al,o !and has been conw SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA: Sir, in veyed to the Uttar p'.~Ciesh Government. reply to parts (a) and (b) of my question. the hort Minister has stated that the priCe of (d-). The statut~~rninimum price fixed sugarcane is fixed by the State Government. by the Central Gov~~ment is uniform forthe The State Government has kept a difference whole of the country . of 0.50 price per quintal in the price of sugar- cane in Western and Eastern district of the (9). The $t~~Ht0rY ,minimum price of state, though there is no difference in recov- sugarcane for 198tm~P season was raised ery percentage. I want to quote the Figures from Rs.17.00 perqulntal to Rs. 18.50 per in respect of highest recovery in some of the , quintal linked to a recovery of 8.5% . The best sugar mills in the western region In increase in the ret~~Lprica of levy sugar by support of my contention:-

Dawala 1Q.2~ in 1985-86 and 1'0.15 in 1986-87

Mawama '10.44' in 1985-86 and 10.63 in 1986-87

·.1 , Simbhauli ' 10,.18 in 1985-86 and 10.57 in 1986-87

Anup Shahar9.:~8 .in 1985-86 and 10.06 in 1986.. 87

Eastern R8glo~~"

Oariyapur 9.73 In 1985-86 and 10.08 in 1986-87

Tulsipur 10.34 in 1985-86 and 10.10 in 1986-87

Balrampur 10.'44 in 1985-86 ~nd 10.59 in 1986.. 97

MR. SPEAKER: ~hat you are doing? I want to tell _the Hon. Minister is that the recovery in the sugar mills in eastern region SHRI RAM NAG INA MISHRA: I am giv- is very good. 'During the last two years. the ing figures in support of my· submission. recovery in the sugar mills in the eastern ragion is equal to that in the western r8gJon. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: He fs saying Prior to that, It was not 80. A rally of farm.,.. that according to the figures. the recovery In was, organised there on 20th which wu the eastern region is., very aoOd. add,...Md by the Hon. Prim. MinItet~ Whit8 add .....fng the ra11y. the Prime MInIater had SHRiRAMNAGINAMISHRA:Slr,'what MId that the farm .... in the ...... " fIIgkin 18,' Oral M,welS FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Ontl AnsMWs 20

have been quite capable in the matter of SHRf RAM NAGINA MrSHRA: My S80- . production and they have made consider.. ond supplementary question Is that in reply able progress. Ho had praised them for this to parts (c) and (e) of my question, the hone achievement. In such a situation, when the Minister has informed that the increase of farmers of the eastern region have in .. Rs.25 per quintal in the price of sugar has creased their production through hard work. been done to the increase in the cost of 'would like to know form the han. Minister production of sugar. In this connection, I whether he would take up the matter with the would like to know from the hone Minister State Govemment in order to remove the whethEtr the farmers will be given higher disparity in the price of sugarcane in the price for their sugarcane in proportion to the western and eastern region of the State? increase in its cost of production?

SHRI SUKH RAM: So far as the ques- SHRI SUKH R!,M: Mr. Speaker, Sir. so tion raised by the hon. Member is concerned far as the Central Government is concerned we had taken up the matter with the Uttar the statutory minimum price fixed by it is Pradesh Government. According to the in- uniform for the whole of the country. How formation we have received from them, ."e ever, the State Government can advise t1 A recovery percentage is the eastern region In sugar mills regarding the price if it sO desires low .as compared to the recovery in the and that. is how the price of s~garcane is western region. This is our information, raised. So far as price of sugarcane is con- which can be checked up. The difference in cerned, it was Rs.17 last year which has price is only 0.50 paise. I would like to tell the been raised to Rs.18.S0 per quintal this year. hon. Member that it is the U.P. Government The State Government has increased this who has to make efforts to improve the price at ~heir own level. So far as increase of quantity of sugarcane in the eastern region. Rs. 25 per quintal in the price of levy sugar They have to see that improved varieties of is concerned, it is due, to theincrease in the sugarcane are grown in the sugarcane price of sugarcane, Besides, the cost sched- growing araas of the State so as to increase ule prepared by the B.I.C.P ,has also been the yield per unit. Only then, this difference kept in view while allowing an increase of Rs. can be removed in real sense. 25 per qunital w.e. f. 1st January. .

SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA: Sir, my SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA : Mr. qestlon has not been replied to. I have said Speaker. Sir, I seek you protection. This that the recovery in both the regions is equal. increase in price was effected after the Uttar Instead. aocor~ing to my information the Pradesh Government had already fixed the recovery in the eastern region is better than price 01 sugar and not before that. the western region but inspite of that, there is disparity in the price. The Prime Minister had givan an assurance in this . regard. Will the SHRt MANOJ PANDEY: Mr. Speaker, hone Minister remove this disparity in price in Sir, minimum statutory price of Rs.18.S0 view of the hard work and the feelings of the fixed by the Government is linked to 8.5 per farmers of the eastern region.? cent recovery and this price is uniform all over the country. When the Central Govern- Sir. this IS my first supp'lementary ques- ment has fixed the negotiated price for each tion. State Government, is the Government going to prepare soma part. of slab in the near MR. SPEAKER: He has already replied future thereby linking the reCovery percent- to ft .. Now put your second supplementary. age to the price to be paid? 21 Oral Answers PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22

SHRI SUKH RAM: Sir. This Is already [ Translation] being don9. If the recovery is more than a particular level, higher price is to be given. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Mr. Speaker. But the Central Government has not issued Sir, you are also aware of this problem. any orders to the State Government to raise the price. The State Government can [Eng/ish] advise the sugar mills if it so deires. SHRI SUKH RAM: Sir, the Central [Eng/ish] Government fixes the minimum price and that minimum price is fixed on the basis of PROF. N.G.RANGA: But you can give consultation with the 81CP ad the alcP also them advice. asks for the view s of those State which produce the sugar. And then the association [ Translation] and growers and all these are taken into consideration. SHRt SUKH RAM: The State Govern· ment advise the sugar mills and we do not SHRI v. SOBHANADREESWARA stop them if they want to increase the price. RAO: You have incresed the molasses [English] price. Why are you not increasing sugar price? SHRI V. S08HANADREESWARA RAO: Sir, the answerto part (c) is fallacious. ( Interruptions) Sir it was a sad thi,ng ,that the statutory minimum price of sugarcane was increased SHRI RANA VIR SINGH: We want half from Rs. 17.00 per quintal to Rs18.50 per - an -hour discussion. quintal. Practically there is a lot of change in the circumstaces. The levy sugar; free sale SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: We want sugar was changed from 65.35 to 50.50 and half -an - hour discussion. the molasses price was incresed from Rs. 60 to As. 120 per quintal. and ~part from that SHRI C. MADHAV REDOI: You may Rs. 24 per quintal was given on levy sugar. anow half-an ·hour discussion. All these things have not reflected in the proper payment of minimum statutory price SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA to the cane grower. The canegrower is not RAO: We want your ruling. You must inter.. going to be benefited by these changes. if it vene. Otherwise, cane-growers will be is a Government policy. and they critlcse. cheated by the industry. So, in view this. I would lika to know whether the Government will reconsider and in- ( Interruptions) creasethe statutory minimum price keeping all these favours in view, and benefit the SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: You are cane growers? If necessary, you convene a not only the Speaker but also a grower. meeting in your Chamber. Sir. and decide the proper price and sea that this price is ( Interruptions) given to the cane grower. The cost of cultiva- tion has also .increased, not only the cost of SOME HON. MEMBERS: We seek or production of sugar. your intervention, Sir.

( Intenvptlons) MR. SPEAKER: Intervention com .. in I 23 Oral AnSWSIS FEBRUARY 23. 19S8 Oral Answers 24

the shape that I will allow half-an -hour specific reply as to what is the total invest- discussion. ment involved, what will bathe percentage of that investment in the manufacture of 'so1 Claarance of Pepalco Project 'drinks concentrate .. (Interruptions).

*S. SHRI G.M.BANA TWALLA: ,.. MR. SPEAKER: Order Please. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL SHAI G.M. BANATWALLA: I think, I must begin again. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: MR. SPEAKER: I have followed you but they were interrupting. (8) whetherthe Pepsico Project withthe Tatas and the Punjab Agro Industries Cor- SHRI G.M.BANATWALLA: Mr. poration has been cleared; Speaker, I was saying this.

(b) if so, the terms of clearance; and The main apprehension about this Pepsico project being felt by the indigenous (c) if not the stage at which the project soft drink manufacturers is that it would be a is being processed, indicating its approval or threat to them. I want to know in the Pepsico otherwise by projects Approval Board and project~ whether there are any features the time by which a decision is likely to be which genuinely allay the fears of thes in- taken? digenous manutacturers. In this connection, let us know, what is the total investment THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE involved; what would be the percentage of DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- that investment in the manufacture of soft OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- drinks concentrate an what would be the TRY (SHAI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) No, percentage in the manufacture of vegetable Sir. and fruit processing ·units. Would there also be any upper limit as maximum upon the (b) Does not arise Pepsico project with regard to the manufac- ture of Pepsico in our country? . (c) The project Approval Board has considered the application. A final decision SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM:Sir. the has not yet been taken by the Government. Joint venture proposal submitted by the Punjab Agro-Industries Corporation con- [Eng/ish] sists of four things:

SHRI G.M.BANATWALLA: Mr. {1} setting up of agro-research Speaker • Sir, the main apprehension with centre with an investment of Rs.65 respect to the Pepsico Project is that this lakhs; project will be a great threat to the indige- nous manufacturers of soft drinks. Keeping (2) setting up of potato and grain that in mind, I wo~ld like to know form the processing unit with an investment of Gov.rnment whether there are any features Rs. 8 crores; In this Pepsico projed which genuinely allay 1M ..... of thea. indigenous manufactur- (3) setting up of fruit and vegetable era. In thle connection I would like to have a procesing unit with an investment of RI. 25 Oral Answsrs PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Oral Answers 28

7.3 erorss. after in reply to Unstarred ques~ion No. 4619 in 1987 and had rejected the proposal of (4) setting up of a soft drink con· granting licence to any company. Besides centrate unit with an investment of Rs. this. it was stated by the Government that 5.55 crores. As far as the indigenous theydo not recognise the non-priority sector. angle is concerned: the Members sug- But I do not understand to what is the need gestion will be considered when a final of importing technology for any, item catego- decision is taken. rised as lUXUry goods. There appears to be no justification in importing a technology SHAI G.M. BANATWALLA: It will be which is indigenously available. The Gov- considered by you. But, right now in their ernment sometime back, granted this II .. own poroject is there nothing that cara really cence to a non-resident Indian and there allay the apprehensions of these m,'nufac- was no mention of foreign exchange and turers? I would like to say that may first there was no proposal to import any technol- question has not been fully answered. I hope ogy. Whey does the Government empha- it will be answered. I will go to the second one sise on this point? Regarding the also. I believe this Pepsico Pr~ject had come Government's policy there is a detailed up once. It was given up. Why is it being article in the Hindustan Times dated ,lith revived now? How far will that be advanta- January, wherein cases have been quoted geous to Punjab? What would be the per- where transfer of technology is needed. centage of Potato fruit and other things of Secondly. Kothari Chemicals and fruits Pulp Punjab which will be absorbed by this Pep- was issued an export licence for the value af slbo Project? How far it would give a stable Rs. 100 crores under which the company market in this respect to Punjab? Aflother was required to export fruits and vegetable point would be as to what would be the net pulp, but they did not make any export foreign exchange gained because of this whatsoever. Keeping in view this past expe- project? Here let the Government also tell rience that none of the export oriented proj- that. There were certain reports about the ects, both in the priority as well as non .. credentials of this foreign collaborators. priority sect~rs, has come out suc:cessf"JI Whether that particular aspect has also why does Government give so much impor- been considered and what safeguards tance to this project? The farmers are not would be thought of in this particular re- going to be benefited , rather they will suffer spect? losses. May I know whether the Government are aware of all thee things and the subject SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM: So far. no is being cOnsidered seriously and if so, will decision has been taken. The suggestions the Government stop this peojed? put forward by the hon. Member will be taken into consideration when a final deci- [English] sion is taken. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRr [ Translation] J. VENGAL RAO): Sir, the Government has not taken any decision on this project. It is SHRt BALASAHES VIKHE PATtl: Mr. still under the consideration of the Govern- Speaker. Sir. I want a categorical reply from ment. the Government In this regard. As a matter of fact, thethen Minister of Industry, Shri Viren- ( Interruptions) dra Patil had clarified the poSition in 1985 in reptyto Starred Ouestion'No. 101 and there- PROF.MAQHUDANDAVATE:Sir.lam FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Oral Answers 28 not satisfied with the· reply given by both the icy. Minl.sters for the very simple reason that thay have soma plans up their sleeves, but be- ( Interruptions) cause the House will not be in favour of allowing the multinationals to step into the PROF. P.J.KURIEN : I have a point of country and be competitors for the indige- order. nous manufacturers, therefore, he has given the typical ministerial reply that the matter is MR. SPEAKER : No point of order under consideration. I want a specific reply. because it is a Question Hour. Is it not a fact that in 1985 when one Com- pany had brought a proposal for some sort of PROF.P.J.KURIEN. Can a Member collaboration with 1 00 per cent export poten- demand a particular answer? tial. in this very parliament very categorically the Government had declared; It is against ( Interruptions) the policy of the Government to allow this type of collaboration in non-productive sec- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Sir, he tors of consumer-goods." Will you assure is misinterpreting. I am asking him to say this House very clearfy rather than leaving it IYes lor INo' to your cabinet consideration saying we shall adhere to the same policy announced ( Interruptions) in this very Parliament and we will not allow the multi national to step into this non-priority [ Translation] sector under the garb of bring ing the technol- ogy which is not available. Actually, we have SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: Mr. got the Central Food Technological Re- Speaker, Sir, this is regarding the policy on search Institute in India which has the high- multi-nationals. A special reply should be est reputation. Why don't you rely on our given. technology rather than relying on the 10reig,n nationals and multi-nationals. Is this attitude ( Intflrruptions) consistent with your self-reliance? I want a firm answer and not like saying that the MR. SPEAKER, Sir, this house is of the matter is under consideration. opinion that this not in the interest of our farmers. SHRI J.VENGAL RAO: Even today the policy of the Government is the same. (Inter- ( IntBrruptions) ruptions) [English] Tilt today. I am answering the question. Kindly hear me. It is under the consideration MR. SPEAKER: Order. The Minister is of the Cabinet. I will certainly convey it. fr99 to answer on his own. He cannot be forced to say anything. I think they must give PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I want a careful thought before doing anything. (In- categorical statement on the policy on multi- terruptions) I think, they will give a careful . nationals in the non-priority sector. Dont't thought before doing anything . leave it to the Cabinet.. (Interruptions).

I want a policy assurance. I want to know wheth.r they have changed their pol· PROF .. MADHUDANDAVATE:Heison 29 Oral Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909· (SAKA ) Oral 'Answers 30 his legs. below

( Interruptions) STATEMENT

MR. ~PEAKER: He has already said (a) Yes, Sir. that they would consider. (b) On account of upward revision of (Interruptions) coal prices w.e.f. 23.12.1987 the average pit. head price of eoal produced by Coal India PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: He is Limited has become Rs. 219/· per tonne. again on his legs. The price of various grades of non-coking coal varies form Rs. 100/- per tonne to Rs. MR. SPEAKER: I'won't make him sit 405/- per tonne, that of coking coal form Rs. down, again. 246/- pertonneto Rs. 573 pertonne and that of Hard Coke from Rs. 500/- per tonne to Rs. SHRI J.VENGAL RAO: The Govern- 1,1 QOI- per tonne. The price of soft coke has ment will certainly keep their views in mind. been retained" at Rs. 175/- per tonne for domestic cO!1sumption and Rs. 300 par [ Translation] tonne for industrial use.

SHRI NARAYAN CHOU BEY: Sir, no (c) The-recent revision of coal price has' specific reply has been given. been made after considering the report of the Bureau of Industrial Costs and Prices [English] which undertook an indepth study of the normative cost of production and various PROF.MADHU DANDAVATE: We other factors including the impact of upward suspect a rat. revision of coal prices on core sectors, and on the national economy, as a whole. The Increase In Price of Coal increase in the price of coal has been n4ces- sitated because of increaae in the cos,t of *6. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEy:t production due to escalation in the wages, SHRI KRISHNA SINGH: stores, power, 'capital costs etc.

Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: [ Translation]

(a) whether prices of different varieties . SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: Mr. of coal have recently been increased: Speaker, Sir, may I know form the han. Minister whether in Chari Committee r~port (b) if so, the details thereof; and submitted to the Government, it has been concluded that the Coal India has been (c) the reasons and factors contributing suffering losses since the time the Coal to this price rise? Indust,rv was nationalised. If so, the ektent of increase in the Q)st of production in Coal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE industry after its nationalisation and the in- DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- crease in the prices of coal since then·. weH TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K. JAFFAR as the reasons of the Coal1ndla running Into SHARIEF)

[ Translation] AN HON. MEMBER: Bit satisfied with this. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: This reply has since been given. SHRI KAll PRASAD PANDEY: How can I be satisfied with 'this? SHRt C.K.JAFFAR SHARIEF: I also mean that. MR. SPEAKER: There is much uproar in the House. Nothing can be heard. Lat the (English] Question Hour be allowed to continua.

Sir. on account of upward revi~ion of ( Inte~tions) coal prices with effect form 23.12.1987, the average pit-head price of coal produced by MR. SPEAKER: He says that he has ~al India Limited has become Rs. 21 per replied to your question. Are you satisfied? tonne. The price of various grades of non- coking coal varies form As. 100 per tonne to [English] Rs. 405 per tonne, that of coking coal from . Rs. 240 per tonne to As 573 per tonne and SHRI C.K.JAFFAR SHARIEF: I have that of Hard Coke form As. 500 per tonne to already answered about the reasons for

Rs.1 t 100 per tonne. The price of soft coke revision of coal price. has been retain&d at As. 175 per tonne for domestice consumption and As.300 per ( Interruptions) tonna for industrial use. MR. SPEAKER: I cannot hear when all The racent revision of Coal price has the people are talking_amona themselves. tMHtn made after considering the report of the Bureau oflndustrial costs and price ( Inter~ijPtions) which undertook an indepth study of the normative cost of production and various SHRI C.K.JAFFM'" SHARIEF: I have other factors including the impact of upward already answered thl reasons for the up- revision of coal prices on core sectors, and ward reVision of the «-81 price. 33 Oral AnswelS PHALGUNA 4.1909 (SAKA) Oral An• ..,. 34· ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: He says that he has already replied. [ Translation) [English] SHAI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: wanted to know whether the Chari Commit- SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: It is stated tee, in its report recently submitted to the that the price has been increased due to Government, has pointed out that there has escalation in the wages of the coal workers. been a constant increase in the prices of coal After nationalisation, a number of times, the after the nationalisation of the coal industry. price of coal has been increased. This is not I would also like to know from the Govern- in proportion with the escalation of the ment the precentage of increase in prices of wages of workers. coal after nationalisation of coal industry and the action taken by the Government to check Recently no escalation of wages of coal this trend. Will the Government assure this workers has taken place. Negotiations have House that the prices of coal will remain not yet started. Thay why this question of stable in future? What action is being taken escalation in the wages has rome? by the Government in this regard? I would like to know whether it is a fact [English) that the production cost has been increased due to large scale mechanisation in coal SHAI C.K.JAFFt-iR SHARIEF: The mines. Chari Committee's report has only been submitted about a week back. It is under examination. SHRI C.K.JAFFAR SHARIEF: Sir. what we have said in our reply is not entirely the SHRI E.AYYAPU REDDY: Is it a fact wages but it covers capital costs, power, etc. that the Coal India Ltd. is incurring a loss of Wages is one component and not the entire Rs. 1 crore per day; that even after the hike thing. in the price it will not be in a position to break even and that further hike is contempfated SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: But no and will be announced within six months to negotiations have taken place as yet. enable the Coal India Ltd. to break even? SHRI P.R.KUMARAMANGALAM: SHRI C.K.JAFFAR SHARIEF: 't is true They are going on strike on 7th March for' that the Coal India IS suffering loss. But there wage revision. (Interruptions) is no kind of any price rice'to meet such losses because it will have an effect on the SHRIINDRAJITGUPTA: Pleas. tell us overall economy of the country. That is why where is the escalation of wages? the Government has recently revised the coal price for which the question is related. SHRI C.K.JAFFAA SHARJEF: What- [ Translation] ever is there has been taken into consider. tion. This is based on vanous factors. Wages SHRI KAL. PRASAD PANDEY: Mr. is also one part. Wag.s are not being in· ' Speaker, Sir, wUI he not reply to my que.- creased now. Capital costa and power are tion? oth. fadorl.1 ne~.~ said only.wag... ,35 ' 'OtaI, AnsW81S FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Oral Answers 36 1Translation1 (c) whether problems facing consum- , ers due to adulteration of foods and drugs SHRI DAMODAR PANDEY: MJ. were highlighted; and Speaker, Sir, the private sector and several for,ign'cornpanies extracted coal from open (d) whether there were any recommen- minas and left but after nationalisation the dations on pesticides in foods, junk food as public sector had to go far deeper to extract also radioactivity in foods and if so, the coal and work in more hazardous circum- details thereof? stances. In order to remove the injustice being done to the workers and allow them THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the,ir legitimate claim, it became necessary MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- to raise the prices of coal. Are any concrete PLIES (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a) Yes. Sir. steps being taken even today to bring down the prices of coal? Is it a fact that the power (b) to (d). A statement is given below. houses and other industries are being sup- plied coal on prices lower even than the cost STATEMENT of produdion which results in heavy losses? Delhi Administration organised aRe· [Eng/ish) gional Seminar on Consumer Protection on 29 January, 1988. The representatives of St:fRI C.K.JAFFAR SHARIEF: Sir, it is the States of Jammu & Kashmir. Himachal broadly true that so far as the underground Pradesh, Punjab, Haryana. Madhya mines are concerned there the cost has Pradesh. Uttar Pradesh. Rajasthan and gone up and in the case of open ·mines the Union Territories of Chandigarh and Delhi cost is less. participated in the Seminar. The Seminar was attended by the representatives of Sir. earlier a question about wages was Government Departments/autonomous asked. I would like to say that interim' relief bodies and voluntary consumer organisa- h.. been given to the workers which comes tions. to more than Rs. 100 crore,s. This interim relief was given with effect from 1.1. 1986. 2. The focus of the Seminar· was on That is why wages have also been taken into creating consumer awareness; enforce- consideration. ment of various laws and regulations having ~earing on the interests of the consumers. Recommendations mad. at Seminar on etc. It also focussed attention on the prob- Consumer Protection lems relating to adulteration, hazardous and sub-standard drugs, pesticides in food, etc. -8. SHRI P. R. KUMARAMANGAlAM: WID the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL sup· PLIES be pleased to state: 3. The following subjects were dis- cussed by the five working groups at the (a) whether a seminar was held on 29 . Seminar:- January. '1988 by the Delhi Administration on Consumer Protection: i) Implementation of the Con- sumer Protection Act, 1986. (b) If so, the sUbJ-cts discussed and recommendations made by the five working ii) Other Consumer Protection groupa; Leg,islations. 37 Oral AnSW81S PHALGUNA 4. 1909 (SAKA ) Oral Anawe,.. '38

iii) Consumer Protection ..Role of 7. There is need for eliminating Voluntary Organisations. hazardous and also irrational drugs from the market. Many. . iv) Consumer Protection .. Role of drugs banned abroad are ,being Industry. imported and used in Ind,i~.

v) Publicity and Consumer Educa- 8, There should be uniformity of tion. taxes on same/similar items.

4. The main recommendations of the 9. There is need to create aware.. Seminar, which are recommendatory in ness amongst the consumers nature are summed up as follows:- and consumer organisations, particularly in rural araas,' 1 . In the various agencies to be set through TV/AIR and other me- up under Consumer Protection dias. Act, 1986 adequate representa- tion should be given to consumer 10. Trade and Industry should lay groups. down a code of ethics to be fol- lowed by their members. Trade 2. Consumerslvoluntary consumer and industry should exercise agencies should be involved in self-discipline. and see that mis- the implementation of Con- leading and false advertise- sumer Protection Legislations. ments are not published.

3. Despite danger posed by resi- SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGAlAM: Sir, due of highly toxic and hazar~­ many of the recommendations made by the ous pesticides in food, no correc- seminar on consumer protection ara vary tive steps have been taken. As specific recommendations. For example, against 130 pesticides regis- one of the recommendation was the urgent tered, regulations are present need to check the import of foodstuff con- only for 31. Many pesticides taminated by radio activity. In one instance banned abroad are being widely butter oil and milk powder was imported. It used here. w~ found to have radio activity. The Bom- bay High Court banned its use. So from 4. There is total absence of protec- Bombay it was brought to Delhi Mother Dairy tionfrom high priced fancy proc- and converted into milk and supplied to Delhi essed food with low or zero nutri- citizens. tion. Forthis purpose, law should be enforced vigorously. Now the children and women of Delhi - seem to be highly susceptible victims of 5. There is urgent need to check cancer. I would like to know whether Govem- the import of food stuffs contami- ment will taka action against these Mother nated with radioactivity. Dairy official or are they going to promote those officials for helping and handling the 6. The system under Prevention of population problem by this method? Food Adulteration Act, 1954 is cumberaome and needs to be SHRI SUKH RAM: Sir, all these almpllied at various levels. aampIH are being examined ~ I the hon. 39 Written AnSWBIS FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 40 Member has got any specific complaint. .. led and the duration of conversation from

which the computer can prepare the periodic I SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: bills. Bombay High Court had banned it after your food research found it to be contaminated. (c) The system ;s expected to be intro- duced in Delhi by the end of 1-989. SHRI SUKH RAM: I can assure the hon. Member If somebody is found guilty action (d) The subscriber will be able to get, on will be taken against him. request, the itemised details of all STD calls made from his telephone. This facility is already available from some of the recently installed electronic exchanges. WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS Effect of New Drug Policy on Small and [English] Medium s.ctor

Introduction of new Telephone Billing *9. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: Will System the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: ·7. SHRI P.M. SAYEED: Will the Minis- ter of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to (a) whether after the introduction of the state: New Drug Policy, drug industrial units in the small and medium sectors are facing large (a) whether the Mahanagar Telephone scale sickness and closure; and Nigam limited has proposed to introduce a new telephone billing system; (b) if so, the remedial steps being taken by Government in this regard? (b) jf so, the salient features thereof; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (c) th$ time by which the new system is J. VENGAL RAO): (a): No, Sir. Ukely to be introduced; and (b): Does not arise. (d) the benefits that the subscribers would derive from the proposed system? Losses by Charkhl Dadr' Factory of THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND Cement Corporation of India MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. ·10. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the Minister of Industry be pleased to state: (b) to (d). The information is given in the statement below. (a) whether Charkhi-Dadri (Haryana) factory of.the Cement Corporation of India is STATEMENT running in loss;

(b) The new I$ystem known as Auto.. (b) if so, the production in this factory matic Mes•• ge Accounting system, records sinee 1982 to date. year-wise and the per- tuD dMails of calls· made by a· subsaiber centage of the installed .production capacity ~ the number dialled. tJm. when dial- utilised; . 41 Written Ans,wllrs PHALGUNA 4.1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 42 (c) whether this factory has been run.. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHl=41 ning in loss despite increase in percentage J. VENGALA RAO): (a) Ves, Sir. utilisation of the installed capacity; and (b) Againstthe approved annual capac- ity of 1.42 lakh tonnes per annum, the year- (d) if so, the reasons therefor and the wise production and percentage capacity remedial steps being taken by Government? utilisation since 1982·83 are as follows: ..

Year Production %age capacity (tonnes) utilisation

1982-83 139500 98.20

1983-84 158660 111.73

1984-85 148750 104.80

1985-86 110360 77.70

146310 103.00

1987-88 127080 107.40

(Upto January, 1988)

(c) Despite almost consistent high Rice In Petrol Prices capacity utilisation since take-over, the fac- tory earned profits only during 1982-83 to *11. SHAIBAJU BAN AlVAN: Will the 1984-85 and thereafter it has started incur- Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL ring losses. GAS be pleased to state: ~,

(a) the number of times the prices of (d) During 1985-86, the losses were petrol were increased during the last three mainly due to lower capacity utilisation aris- years; and ing out of major rehabilitation work. The losses thereafter are attributable mainly to (b) its impact on the price rise? withdrawal of power subsidy by State Gov· ernment of Haryana from August,' 1986 and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE increase in input costs which have not been MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU.. compensated by corresponding increase in RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTTA): (a). sales price realisation. CCI is making con- The prices of petrol were increased twice tinuous efforts to increase the capacity utili- during the last three calendar years. The last sation and to minimise the cost.of produc- price increase was made on 9-1-1988. tion. State Government of Haryana has also been approached for extending the"J)8riod of (b). The contribution of the rise in petrol power subsidy. price in 1985·86 was 2.40/0 tif the increase of 43 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 44 3.8% in the wholesale price index (WPI). Le. Industrial Growth 0.0912% only of the increase in the (WPI). Similarly the contribution of the last price rise "'13. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: of 9-1-'1 9S8 up to 23.. 1·1988 has been 2.2% SHRI SHARAD DIGEE: of the increase of 9.80/0 in the WPI i.e. an increase of 0.21560/0 only of the WPI. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be ple~sed to state: Provision of Electricity at Concesslonal Rates to Farmers (a) whetherthere has been sharp fall in the industrial growth since August, 1987; ·12. SHRI SARFARAZ AHMAD,: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) whether this is due to industrial sickness in some of the most vital sectors; (a) whether Union Government are taking any steps to provide electricity at (c) whether government have taken concessional rates to the farmers of these any short term and. long term measures to States which were affected by drought last remedy the situation; and year; and (d) if so, the details thereof? (b) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE J. VENGALA RAO): (a) to (d). A statement is DEPTT. OF POWER IN THE MINISTRY OF given below. ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a). Under the electricity (Sup- STATEMENT ply) Act, 1948, the power to fix tariff for supply of electricity to various categories of (a). During the period April-November, consumers vests in the State Electricity 1987, ,industrial growth rate has been of the Roards/Electricity Departments and not in order of 10.2% as against 7.S during the 'Ie Union Government. corresponding period of 1986.

The monthly rate of growth for the pe-. (b). Does not arise. riod August-Novembe'r 1987 are as follows:·

Month Increase over the corresponding period of the previous year (%)

August 8.7

September 8.1

October 4.7

,:' lember 10.1

(b). It would not be correct to say that the gust. 1987, is due to industrial aicIcn_. deceleration in Industrial growth sin·- e Au .. ~owever. the drought of 1987 is expaded to 45 .Written AnswerS PHALGVNA 4, ·~909 (SAKA ) Written· AnSWgrS 48 cause a decline in the rate of growth of STATEMENT industrial output in the latter part of the financial year 1987-88. (b) to (d). According to the Study, the prices oflhe raw materials which constitute (c) and (d). Government have taken a the bulk of the expenditure of the engine.r .. number of measures to stimulate and sus- ing industry, have increased significantly ·fn tain industrial production. These include 1986-87· over 1985-86. The increase in appropriate liberalisation of policies and prices ranges from 1.60/0 for copper and procedures, fiscal and financial incentives copper alloys to 21.3% for lead. The study for enhanced production for domestic and also notes that fuel and power costs have export markets, technology upgradation also. risen in 1986-87 over 1985-86. the scheme for modernisation of selected capi- increase ranging from 4.1% for coke to tal goods industries, ensuring availability of 10.3% for coal. According to the study, other industrial raw materials, and improving the costs relating to wages, construction. main .. . performance of infrastructure industries. tenance and transport have also witnessed an increase in 1986-87. Costs and prices of Industrial produc- tion 2. As against these cost increases, the prices of engineering products have shown *14. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RA- an increase of only 2.5% in 1986 .. 87 ovar MOOWALlA: 1985-86. DR. CHINTA MOHAN: 3. The Government is aware of the Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to need for containing the prices of industrial state: raw materials and ensuring their adequate supplies. Necessary measures have been (a) whether the attention of Govern- taken by the Government from time to time to ment has been drawn to the study report deal with the situation, including augmenta- recently prepared by the confederation of tion of domestic production of industrial raw Engineering Industry in respect of costs and. materials and inputs, imports and adjust- prices of industrial production; ment of fiscal levies. On its part. the industry also should curtail its cost of production by improving the efficiency of its utilisation of (b) if so, the "eaction of Government scarce raw materials and energy inputs. thereon; Contract to Foreign Companla. for 011 , (c) whether Government haye taken ~xploratlon In Krishna-Godavari Basin certain steps after studying the aforesaid report; and *15. SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: Will the. Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (d) if not, the reasons therefor? GAS be pleased to state:

(a) whether it is a fact that the highly THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI prospective blocks in the Krishna-Godavari J. VENGAlA RAO): (a). Government have basin have been ~anded over to the foreign S88ntha study oftha eEl on 'Industrial Costs multi·national oil companies under a con- & Prices' prepared in October. 1987. (b) 10 tract signed by Government fot oil explora.. (d). A statement is given below. tion with foreign companies; 47 WrIlt."Ans_" FEBRUARY 23, 1989 Written Answs,.. 48 (b) if so~ the details thereof; RAL GAS (SHRt BRAHMA DUTIA): Ca> In order to supplement the oil exploration ac- (c) whether the Oil and Natural Gas tivities of the national oil companies, Gov- Commission is capable of doing the explora- ernment of India had in March, 1986, invited tion work; and bids from foreign oil companies for explora- tion of hydrocarbons in 27 offshore blocks of (d) if so, the reasons for handing over India including seven in Krishna-Godavari such prospective blocks to foreign oil com- basin. panies? Contracts for the following three blocks THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE in Krishna-Godavari basin have been signed MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- so far.

Name of block Name of the signing company

KG-OS-I Chevron International Ltd, and Texaco Exploration India Inc.

KG-OS-VII -do-

KG-OS-IV International PAtroteum (Bermuda) Ltd.

It is too early to assess the prospective- corresponding to its participa- ness of these blocks. tion.

(b) The main feature of these contracts (v) The foreign oil company's share are: of oil will be available to the Government at international (i) Foreign oil companies will ex- market price. plore for Petroleum at their own risk and cost. (vi) After recovery of costs, the con- tractor will share Petroleum with (ii) If there is a commercial discov- the Government on sliding ery ONGC will have the option to scale. Government's share of participate forty per cent in de- Petroleum will increase as the velopment and production of the project economics improves. discovery. (vii) The contractor will pay tax at the (iii) If ONGC decides to participate, it rate of fifty percent on its profits. will contribute forty percent of development and production (viii) ONGC will not contribute to rosts and remaining sixty per- exploration costs but it will be cent will be borne by the foreign associated with the foreign oil company. company's work right from the beginning. (Iv) ONGC will be entitled to the ahare of Petloleum produced (be) The entire data acquired by the- 49 Written Answ./3 PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Wrlnllfl Answers 50

foreign company will be avail- money from persons having commercia' able to ONGC. dealings with the company by way of "pro- tection money" and in unfair cornering of (x) The assets acquired for perma- contracts by preventing fair tendering. They nent use in Petroleum also take to activities like trading in iUic;it Operations would become liquor, money lending. and fraudulentlforc- ONGe's property once the cost ibis realisation of money from workers in the recovery for such assets is name of 'union' funds. claimed by the foreign oil compa- . nias, without any further pay- All this is essentially a law and order ment byONGC. problem. To tackle the situation created by the anti-social elements in the mines of (c) and (d). Efforts of the foreign oil BCCl, the State Government of Bihar and companies would supplement the explora- the management of the company have been tion efforts of ONGC/OIL. While demarcat- taking the following steps:- ing the blocks for offer to foreign oil compa- nies certain area where ONGC expected to a) Preventive arrests of mafia lead- carry on its activities were not offered. ers.

Mafia Activities In Coal Mines b) Establishment of new police sta- tions ~nd outposts in Dhanbad *16. DR. G.S. RAJHANS: Will the areas. Minister of ENERGYbe pleased to state: (a) whether Government are aware that the c) Improvement in wireless commu· proper running of coal mines in the country nications. has been severely affected due to mafia activities, as reported in the Indian Express d) Improvement in roads. dated 31 January, 1988; e) Departrnentalisation of transporta- .(b) whether Union Government have tion of coal. taken any steps to defuse these mafia activi- ties; and f) Setting up of licensed coal depots.

(c) if so, the remedial steps proposed in g) Centralised coal dumps replacing this regard? large number of irregular coal depots. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- h) Periodic transfer of CISF person- TRY OF ENERGY(SHRI C.K. JAFFER nel to prevent development of SHARIEF): (a) to (c). The activities of anti- vested interests, and social ele'!'ents, com monly referred to as mafia, do, in fact, affect the operations of the i) Transfer of company's employees Bharat Coking Coal Limited, the Coal Com- in sensitive positions. pany working in the Jharia Coalfields in Bihar. The problem is not so serious in the A high-level review of the situation in the case of other coal companies. In aCel, the Jharia coalfields conducted a few months anti-eocial elements quite often indulge In ago had revealed that as a result of various intimidation of company officials, extortion of steps taken by the State Government of 51 WtItt.n An.w.", . FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Writtttn Answers 52 'eihar and the management of. the coal (b) The main reasons for increase in the company, the anti-social elements were. for prices of essential commodities are the the time being. somewhat inactive and un- widespread drought, ~all in' production' of dercontrol. but the possibility of their becom- some commodities, the seasonality factor ing active again could not be ruJed out. It and increase in administered prices of a few , was, therefore, decided that concerted ef.. commodities. forts to keep,their activities in check should be continued and intensified. Among other (c) Increase in prices of essential things. a decision was taken to promote the commodities "has impact on common cooperative-societies of Ex-servicemen for people. However, efforts are being made by t.ransportation-work and to open credit so- Government to reduce the impact (i) b~' cieties and cooperative consumer stores to supplying larger quantities of key essential curb the activities of money lenders. The commodities through the Public Distribution Coat Companies, particularly BCCL, have System (ii) supply of cheaper grains to tribals been directed to implement these measures and other poorer sections of Society under vigorously. National Rural Employment Programme and Rural Landless Employment Guarantee Prlcalncraasa of Essential Commodi- Programme and (iii) by taking various steps ties .to keep price increase of essential commodi- ties within reasonable limits. *17. SHRI MANIK REDDY: SHAI V. TULSIAAM: (d) Government has taken a number of measures to contain rise in the prices of Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- essential commodities and improve their PLIES be pleased to state: availability. The main thrust of the Govern- ment policy has been to increase production (a) whether the prices of the essential of various essential commodities, particu- commodities have increased considerably larly those which are in short supply. Other during the past six months; measures include import of some essential commodities to augment domestic supplies, (b) if so. the reasons thereof; regulating' export of some essential com- modities, strengthening and expanding the (c) how far it has affected the common Public Distribution System and strict en- people; and forcement of provisions of Essefltial Com- modities Act and Simla legislations against (d) whether any effective steps are hoarders, blackmarketeers by the State being taken by Government to bring down Governments/UT Administrations. the prices and if so, the details thereof? On account of widespread drought conditions prices in general have been THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE under pressure. To meet the situation, Chief MlNISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- Ministers of States and Lt. Governors of PLIES (SHAI SUKH RAM): (a) There has Union Territories have been urged from time been a mixed trend in the prices of essential to time to strengthen Public Distribution commodities during the last six months. The System. press into operation mobile vans, prices of soma commodities have moved up, review CQntinuously the availability and 8OI'M have moved down and a few have priceS of essential commodities through remained, more or 18SS steady. Control rooms and Committees set up at the 53 Written An'M"s PHALGUNA 4. 1909 (SAKA ) State and District level. intensify dehoarding (b) BIS has Centra. Laboratoty at operations and take strict actions against Sahibabad (Ghaziabad Distt.) and labora.. hoarders and blackmarketeers' in accor- tories at Bombay, Calcutta, Madras. Mohall dance with the provisions of Essential (near Chandigarh). Patna and Guwahati. Commodities Act and similar other legisla- tions. Th~ Central Government has 'in- (c) and (d) During the Seventh Plan, It creased allocations of wheat, rice and edible hd been proposed to establish a laboratory oils of the States fordisfribution through their each in Bangalore and Gandhinagar network affair price shops. Available infor- (Gujarat) and to expand the laboratories in mation indicates that State Governments Calcutta and Madras. The Plan also envis- and Union Territory Administrations have aged to commence construction of Labora- generally taken steps on above lines. The tory buitding in Kanpur. The building for Central Government has also strengthened Bangalore laboratorY had already been arrangements for monitoring of prrces and completed and construction of the building , availability of essential commodities. Meet- at Gandhinagar has com.menced. Initial ings have been held with representatives of work for expansion at Calcutta and Madras trade and industry urging them to take steps has been taken up. A long-term Perspective for containment of the prices. Plan is under prepare-ation which will cover' the following aspeds:- Plan to Boost SIS Laboratory Network (a) Testing needs of the country *18. SHRI M.V. CHAN- comprising of consumer prod- DRASEKHARA MUR- ucts testing, assistance to sma" THY: scale industries, independent SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO- test facilities required, etc. HIT: ' (b) Future plan of action relating to Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- establishment of additional SIS PLIES be pleased to state: laboratories and the tentative estimates of outlay. (a) whether a number of laboratories set up by the Bureau of Indian Standards (c) Coordination with other labora- (BIS) have been functioning in the country to tories, providing calibration and ensure quality of products; training services, etc.

(b), if so, the locations where these Car Telephone. laboratories are presently functioning; *1,). SHRI SUBHASH YADAV: (c) whether G·overnment propose to SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: boost the laboratory network of the BurQau and also propose to draw up a long term Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be perspecti.'.) plan; and pleased to state:

(d) if so, the details in this regard? (8) whether there is any proposal under the consideration of Government to revive THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Car Telephones plan in the capital; , MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- PLES (SHRI SUKH RAM): (a> Yes, Sir. (b) whether such a plan Is ... to be .&5 Written Answers FE'BRUARV 23, 1988 Written Answers 56 introduced In other metropolitan cities of the MW) at in Orissa, at an estimated ,~untry; and cost of Rs. 1291.46 crores, for benefit in the Eighth Plan period. (0) if so, the broad outlines of the proposal? Investment In Thermo Plastics Sector

THE MINISTER OF' ENERGY AND 1. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will the Min- MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI ister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: V~SANT SATHE): (a). A radio-based mo- bile telephone system is already working in (a) the c~pital invested during the last the capital. two years in Thermo Plastics Sector;

(b) Yes, Sir. (b) whether Government have propos- 1 als to beost the production of Thermo Plas- (c) It is proposed to try out a more tics in view of its varied uses; and modern cellular radio-based telephone sys- tem for mixed mobile and fix9d S91 ,ice to (c) how Government propose to meet cover metropolitan and other major 'cities the needs of trained manpower for plastic and the rural areas around them. In the first technology? - instance, it is proposed to instal an experi- mental system with a capacity of 1200 lines THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI in Bombay. In the light of the experience J. VENGAl RAO): (a). Capital Investment gained. further plans will be drawn up includ· duringthe last two years (1985-86 and 1986- ing the indigenous manufacture of the nec- 87) in the central public sector on Maharash- essary equipment. tra Gas Cracker Complex, which will mainly produce thermoplastics and IPel's Polypro- Setting up of Super Thermal P~wer pylene ·Co-polymer proje_ct was Rs. 200 Plant at Talcher In Orissa crores approximately.

*20. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL: (b) Yes, Sir. SHRI AMAR AOYPRADHAN: (c) Apart froIT' ~. ,facilities available in Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to various Universiti0s. IITs, ITI's, Polytech- state: nics, etc., the Celltral I ',stitute of Plastics Engineering and Technolcgy set up in 1968, (a) whether Government have a pro- inter aJia, imparts training in different areas posal to set up a Super Thermal Power Plant of plastics processing, plastics engineering, at Talcher in Orissa during the financial year etc. 1988-89; and Expenses on T.A. and D.A. In Telecom (b) if so, the estimated cost of the above Circle. U.P. project? 2. SHRI PURNA CHANDRA MALIK: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- pleased to state: TFtY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) and (b). It is proposed to set <8> the total expense. incurred on up • Super Thermal Power Projeot (2X500 account of TA and OA during the year 1987· 57 Written AnSWfJIS PHALGUNA 4.1909 (SAKA) Writr." Ans.,.,. 58

88 under the General Manager, Telecom in (c) There was an upward revisJonoftha Uttar Pradesh Circle and the resped;ve TA and DA rates on the Government's ac· heads of accounts on which such expenses ceptance of the recommendations of the 4th were charged; Central Pay COOl mission. This, coupled with the expansion of Telecom. network neeessl .. (b) whether the above expenditure was tating a larger number of tours for the ma;n- in excess of what was incurred on same tenance of the network, resulted jn increase account during the year 1986~87; in the expenditure on TA and DA.

(c) ~ so, the reasons therefor; (d) Yes, Sir. The budget allotment took into account the economy instructions a'nd (d) whether Government instructions the expenditure is within this ceiling. about cut to be effected in travel expenses due to drought and flQod were followed in the (e) Does not arise. instant case; and Ongoing Power Projects In North (e) if not, the steps taken in this regard? Eastern. Region

3. SHRI AJOY BISWAS: Will the Minis.. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND ter of ENERGY be pleased to state: MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) An amount of Rs. (a) the number and the names of ongo- 131.871akhs was incurred on TA and DA in ing power projects in North East region; and the current year (1987-88) upto December, 1987, in the U.P. Telecom. Circle, as against (b) when those projects are likely to be an amount of Rs. 78.4 71akhs incurred during completed? the previous year upto December, 1986, and As. 134.48 lakhs in the whole year 1986-87. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE This expenditure was charged in the ac- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- counts under ··Working Expenses". TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (b). The details are given (b) Ves, Sir. in the statement below.

STATEMENT

Names of the On-going Major and Minor Power Project in the North Eastern Region with likely dates of Completion.

S.No. Name of the Project Like/ydat. of compl9tion

1 2 3

THERMAL:

1. Chanderpur Extn. Thermal Project 6188

2. Borgolai Thermal Project 8th Ptan Period 51 Wrm.n An.WeIS FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 80

1 2 3

3. Lakwa Gas Turbines 8th Plan Period

4. Kathalguri Combined cycle project 1/92

s. Rokhia Gas Turbines 6/89

8. Baramura Gas Turbines 1989-90

7. Garo Hills Project Beyond 8th Plan Period.

HYDRO:

8. Kopili HE Project March '88

9. Doyang HE Project 9th Plan

10. Ranganadi HE Project Stage I 9th Plan

11. Lower Borpani HE Project 1990-91

12. Dhansiri HE Project 8th Plan Period

13. Umiam Umtru HE Project Stage IV 1990-91

14. Thoubal HE Project 1993-944

TRANSMISSION LINES:

15. -Guwahati 220KV DIC 3/88 (Upto Khanpara)

16. Agra-Bongaigaon 220KV D/C 2/88

17. Longpi-Guwahati 220 KV D/C 3/88

18. Samaguri-Mariani 220KV SIC 3/89 (2nd Ckt.)

19. Samaguri-Tezpur 220KV DIG 6/88

20. Brahmaputra river crossing at Jagighopa-Panchratna 220KV ole 3/88

21. Brahmputra river crossing at SIgMt 220KV DIe 3188 61 Written Ans.,. . PHALGUNA 4. ,1909 (SAKA ) . WrItt." AnSlNlS 82

1 2 3

22. 220 KV 4 Ckt. between Khanpara and Guwahati 3/88

.23. Ningthongnong SIs 132133 KV, 2x12.5 MVA 132KV Kilo line 6/88

24. Yurambam SS (Aug) 132133 KV, 2x20 MVA 87-88

25. Umiam Stage-I-Shillong 3/88

26. Umiam Umtru Stage IV-Stage III 3/89

27. Mokokchung-Tuli Sic 3/88

28. Mokokchung-Tuensang-Kiphire 12/88

29. 66 KV B'adharghat-Sonamura, SIs via Rokhia 9/88

30. Jiribam-Aizawl, 132 KV SIC 3/88

Supply of Kerosene to Orissa had requested for additional allotment of kerosene. This was cor'!sidered and an 4. SHRIJAGANNATH PATTNAIK: Will additional quantity of 450 tonnes of Kero- the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- sene was released to the State for Decem- RAL GAS be pleased to state: ber, 1987.

(a) whether the State of Orissa has Distribution of Kerosene among the approached Union Governmont for some various districts in a State is the responsibn- additional quota of kerosene to be supplied ity of and is done by the State Govt .• and to that State; there has been no specific reference from , the Orissa Govt. with regard to the require- (b) whether Government have also ments of in particular. considered and given some concessions in favour of drought affected areas of Kalahadi Collection of Date of Small Scale Drug district; and Manufacturer.

(c) if so, the details thereof? 5. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Wilt the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to stat.: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- <8> the efforts made by Govemment to RAl.GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTTA):.(a) to conecl data of small scale drug manufllCtur~" (c). In Decenm.r. 1987 the Govt. of Orissa era in the country; FEBRUARV 23, 1988 Written Answers 64

(b) whether any recommendation has the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to been made by the National Development state: CouncUfor Drugs and Pharmaceuticals; and

(c) if SO,. the details of the same and (a) the number of units set up by the reasons for not implementing the decision? Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd. in different parts of the country: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c). On the request (b) the performance of each unit during ,from this Department, State Drug COntrol- 1986-87; lers advised the Small Scale Units to furnish Production datatothis Department. National (c) the projection made in each unit for Drugs and Pharmaceutical Development 1988-89; and Council (NDPDC) had recommended that assistance of State Drug Controllers should (d) the details thereof? betaken to collect the data. This Department has also approached the Small Units in this regard. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGALA RAO): (a) to (d). BHEL has Performance of units of Bharat Heavy thirteen Manufacturing Units. The perform- Electrlcals Limited ance during 1986-87 and projections for 1988-89 Unitwise are given in the statement 6. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: Will below:

STA.EMENT

Psrformanc9 of 8HEL Units

(Rs.lcrores)

S.No. Unit Performance Projection in 1986-87 for 1988-89 tumover tumover

1 2 3 4

1. Heavy Electricals Plant 418 520 Bhopal (M.P.)

2. Transformer Plant 52 86 Jhansi (U.P.)

3. Heavy Eledrical Equipment 290 341 Plant, Hardwar (U.P.)

4. Central Foundry Forge Plant, 26 34 Hardwar (UP) 65 W'*'SIJ Answers PHAtGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) K'ttI:t./? AntS ..... ' 8e

1 2 3 4

5. Heavy Power Equipment Plant 374 ·458 Hyderabad (AP).

6. High Pressure' Boiler Plant 648 716 Tiruchirapalli (Tamil Niu1u)

7. Seamle$s Steel Tube P1ant '39 ~2 T-iruchirapalli (Tamil Na~~

8. Boiler Auxiliaries Plant 182 160 Ranipet (Tamil Nadu)

9. Electronics Division 71 108 Bangalore (Karnataka)

10. Electro-Porcelains Division 18 24 Bangalore (Karnataka)

11. Insulator Plant, 03 10 Jagdishpur (UP)

12. Industrial Valves Plant 07 05 Goindwal (Punjab)

13. Component Fabrication 02 02 Plant, Rudrapur (UP)

Setting up of Tyre ProJects THE MINISTER OF STATE IN :THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL· 7. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will the OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) No proposal is pending with the Govt. for the (a) number of new tyre projects pro· setting up of a new tyre project. However, posed to be set up in the country during Tyre Corporation of India Ltd., a Govt. of

1988-89; India Undertaking, ha~e been recently per- 0' mitted to modernize their Kankinara Unit to (b) whether any such tyra project is manufadure Siakh pieces of tyre and tubes proposed to be set up in Orissa; each per annum. Any proposalforthesetting up of a new tyre project received by the Government will be considered on merits 88 (c) if so, the site selected for the location per the existing policy. of tyr. project in Orissa; and (b) to (d). On an application from MIl (d) the'details of the project? Kesoram Industries Ltd., a letter of Intent for FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 88 the manufacture of 10 lakh nos. automobile services in agreement with Vayudoot; tyras and tubes per annum was issued on 8.2.1985. The location of the project is Dis- (b) if' so, whether such services were trict Balasars of Orissa. approved by Government; and

Price. of Ampicillin and Amoxyclilin (c) if so, the details thereof? Drugs THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 8. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD SINGH: . MINISTER OF COMMUNICP.TIONS (SHRI Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir. state: (b) No, Sir. (a) whether it is a fact that prices of life saving drugs like Ampicillin Amoxycillin act. (c) Does not arise in view of answers at are very high in India as compared to inter- (a) and (b) above. national prices; Compensation to affected p~opla of (b) whether this is due to high cost of Ranlganj-Jharla Coal Fleld9 Indigenously produced Penicillin; 11. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Will (c) what is the comparative statement the Ministerof ENERGY be pleased to state: of inputs, utilities, conversion cost (exclud- Ing depreciation), depreciation and interest (a) whether a vast area of land in a'ld of the indigenous rencillin vis-avis interna- around Raniganj-Jharia Coal Fields have ·tional prices; and submerged causing considerable danger to the inhabitants; (d) the reasons of such disparity? (b) the number of people affected with THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI details thereof; J. VENGAL RAO): (a) The indigenous Prices of medicines compare favourably (c) whether any notice was given to all whh International prices. the people who have constructed or are construding dwelling houses on the land (b) Does not arise. which has submerged or is likely to sub- merge; (c) Not available. (d) whether any oompensation has (d) Does not arise. been given to any of the affeqted people;

Prlvat. AgenCies run Parallal (e) if so, the details thereof; and Postal S,rvlce. (f) the measures taken by Government 9. SHFU ANANDA PATHAK: will the to rehabilitate the affected people and those Minlstarof COMMUNICATIONS be pleased who have not received any co~pensation? to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whatherGovernment are aware that DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- certain private agencies run parallel postal rAY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K. JAFFAR 89 Written Answel8 PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA) Wrhtfln AnSweIW 70' SHARIEF): Ca) to' (1). Due to unscientific Agents working in the country at pre.. nt; exploitation of coal reserves during pre... na- tionalisation days certain settlements in (b) the nature of duties performed by Raniganj and Jharia CoaHreld areas are these agents; experiencing Instances of land subsidence. The Director General of Mines Safety has (c) the salient features of the contract declared 40 places as unsafe for habitation that these agents have to enter into.with the . in the district of Burdwan of . Postal Department; The West Bengal Government has, through legislation, prohibited habitation in 25 places (d) whether evaluation of working of out o~ 40 identified by DGMS. 39 places in these agents has been done; and Jharia coalfield have been declared unsafe d~e to subsidence. 'Coal companies and (e) if so, the results of the evaluation? State Government autho~itles have advised the residents not to take up construction THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND activities over the areas declared unsafe. MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Coal companies are filling up the surface pot VASANT SATHE): (a) There ara 924 li- hole's and getting the'damages repaired. censed Postal Agents (LPAs) at present working in the country. Under the Research and Development programme of coal sector, stabilisation of (b) Licensed Postal Agents are re- old workings are being done by innovative quired to :- methods to prevent and minimise .subsi- dence. In addition, coal compa:1ies have (i) sell postage stamps and po$taJ taken up the following steps to check the . stationery to public; . subsidence; (ii) bOok registered letters; and (il Mining operations are carried out in strict conformity with the (iii) despatch registered and unreg- rules and regulations and as per ,istered mail posted at their prem- conditions imposed by the ises to the designated post of- DGMS. fice.

(ii) Extraction below built-in areas;s (c) The agreement entered into by the done only in conjunction with Licensed Postal ~ents and the Department stowing. provides. inter-alia, for :-

(iii). Restricted working/extraction in (i) a security of Rs. 1 ,000/- to be case of workings undet shallow furnished by the agent; cover. (ii) commission payable to the Licensed Posta I Agents agent by the Department at the rate of 50 paise per registered 12. SHAI SHANTARAM NArK: Will the article booked up to 2,500 ar- Minister of CqMMUNICATIONS be pleased ticles in a month and at 25 paise to state: per article beyond 2,5000 and a further commission of 3% on the number of Licensed Postal . sate of postage stampa and st.- FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Alii.. " 72 tlonery drawn from the post of- (b) Use of non-conventlonaJ raw mate- fica up to Rs. 1,000 par day and rials, which include agricultural residues, 1.5% beyond Rs. 1,000. wastes and bagasse, is encouraged for manufacture of paper and paper-board. (iii) Expiry of a licence granted under (c) In order to promote vse of non- the scheme at the sndof 3 years conventional raw materials for paper-mak- unless renewed thereafter and ing. the following reliefs and concessions termination of a licence at any have been extended to the paper industry:- time by the licensee or licensing authority by giving a notice of not less than one month. (i) Paper containing not less than 750/0 by weight of pulp made (d) Yes, Sir. from bagasse is exempted from excise duty. (9) On the basis of 1he evaluation and also taking into account the terms of Settle- (ii) Paper and paper board manu- ment arrived at with postal employees' factured with not less than 50% Unions, it was decided that there was no by weight of pulp from non-con- need to expand the scheme any further but ventional raw materials are the existing agents may be allowed to func- charged excise duty at conces·· tion for the duration of the licences held by sional rates. them. (iii) The facility of payment of excise Encouragement to Agro-based Paper duty on incremental basis for Units successive slabs has been ex- tended to the small paper mills, 13. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Will which mainly use non-conven- the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to tional raw materials for paper- state: making.

(a) whetherthere is any National Policy (iv) Requirement of Industrial li- on Paper; cence has been dispensed with in the case of manufacture of (b) if so, whether agro-based paper writing, printing and wrapping unHs are CXlnsidered preferable in view of the paper from agricullUral residues, rMullant reduced pressure on forests; and wastes and bagasse.

(c) if so, the steps taken to encourage Requirement, Allotment and Actual agro-based paper units? Supplies of Soft Coke to States

14. SHR! R.P. CAS: Will the Minister of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ENERGY be pleased to state: DEPARTMENT OF' INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS· (a) the monthly raquirement. allotment TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) The and actu'al supplies of soft coke to various development of the Paper Industry falls States including West Bengal; within the framework of the IndustriaJ, Policy of Government. (b) whether the performance of the 73 Written Answers PHAlGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answ.ra 74

Coal India Limited in supplying of soft coke i,n TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K. JAFFAR some States has been dismal throughout SHARIEF): (a) The allotment of soft cokets ,the year; made half yearly after discussion with repre- sentatives of State Govt., coal companies (c) the remedial steps taken so far jn producing soft coke, Department of Food & this regard; and Civil Supplies and Railways. Since the pro- duction of soft coke has been stagnating and even declining, the allotment is less than the (d) the reasons for not improving the requirement indicated by the States and in situation in so far as the West Bengal is practice the suppl'y is of a lower order than concerned? the allotment. The monthly allotment from April, 1987 onwards and the supplies THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ~gainst these allotments to the various DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- States are:-

, State Monthly allotment Allotment for the Supply during Octoberl87- p9riod April- ths period Apfl1-

March'88 .. December'87 Decembe"S7

1 2 3 4

Bihar 60.0 540.0 394.2

West Bengal 65.0 675.0 444.9

Uttar Pradesh 20.0 240.0 76.9

Delhi 9.0 87.0 50.4

Rajasthan 4.5 31.5 1.7

Gujarat 2.0 30.0 1.7

Orissa 1.8 19.2 3.0

Punjab 1.5 14.1 3.3

J& K 1.0 4.5 9.2

Andhra Pradesh Nil

Madhya .pradesh 4.0 42.0 Nil

Haryana HH 9.0 Nil 75 Wrllten Answ." FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written An,MWI 71

1 2 3 4

Matlarashtra 2.0 21.0 Nil

Kamataka 0.2 1.98 0.4

Himachal Pradesh 1.0 9.0 Nil

Chandigarh 1.Q 9.0 Nil

N.E. States 3.5 31.95 11.7

(b) While supply to West Bengal, Bihar, touch with West Bengal Govt. and in addition Delhi and J & K is relatively better the supply to supplying the entire production of soft to other States is generally not satisfactory. coke from certain collieries preferred by the West Bengal Govt. within the overall quota (c) In view of constraints in production fixed for the State, natural soft coke pro- of soft coke, Cil has offered to State Gov- duced by EeL is also being made available ernments to supply steam Coal in lieu of the to West Bengal. shortfall in the availability of soft coke. Cen- tral Mine Planning & Design Institute STD Facility between Maha (Pondlch· (CMPDll) have developed a technology to erry) and Chombala Exchange In Callcut prepare special solid fuel, plants of which District (Karala) can be installed by different States. This technology has received a good response in 15. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMACHAN- the Eastern Region. Coal India Ltd, is also DRAN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- having an inter action with the private parties TIONS be pleased to state: who have responded to their notice for set- ting up mechanised soft coke production (a) whether any assurance has been plant. In the meantime instructions hav~, given to connect Mahe (Pondicherry) and however, been issued to coal companies to Chombala exchange in Calicut District step up production of soft coke and Increase (Kerala) by STD system; its despatches to States including West Bengal. (b) if so, the progress made so far; and

(d) The allocation and supplies to West (c) the time by which the name is likely Bengal during the current financial year from to be introduced? April-December, 1987 were as follows:- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND Allocation 6.75 lakh tonnes MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir. Supply 4.~ lakh tonnes (b) Does not arise. As stated above position in regard to supply to West Bengal has been relatively better. (c) i) Mahe (Pondicherry) has been Nevarthet_ Coal India Ud. has been in planned to be provided with STD facility 77 ~enAn."18 PHAlGUNA'4.,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 78 during the 7th Plan. two proposals from the

I Electricity Board:- (it) There is no proposal to provide STD facilities to Chombola during the 7th Plan. (i) Satpura Return .. 1 000 KW Canal hydel project Proposal for construction of MinI/Micro Hydro-electric 'Projects In M.P. (ii) Chargaon mini - 400 KW hydel project 16. SHRI KEVUR BHUSHAN: Win the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: For such schemes. Departn1ent of Non .. Conventional Energy Sources provide fi- (a) whether some proposals for provid- nancial assistance towards the cost of elec- ing financial assistance for construction of tro-mechanical eq uipment whereas the cost mini and micro hydro-electric projects in of civil works, transmission, distribution etc. Madhya Pradesh are pending with the Rural is met by the State Electricity Board. The Electrification CorporationlDepartment of financial assistance for the above men- Non-conventional Energy sources of the tioned schemes would be Cd'nsidered by the Union Government; and Department of Non-Conventional Energy Sources after the necessary scrutiny and (b) if so, the time by which fin~cial other formalities are completed. assistance would be made available and the details thereof? Import of Foodgralna to Check Price THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Rise DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA 17. SHRIAMARSINH RATHAWA: Willthe ROHATGI): (a) and (b). The following pro- Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be posals have bean received by the rural Elec~ pleased to state: trification Corporation from the Madhya Pradesh Electricity Board: (a) whether it is a fact that due to (i) Bhimgarh mini hydel - 2400 KW drought which hit kharif crops in most of the scheme States ~his year, a substantial rise in prices (ii) Kharar mini hydel 250 KW persisted in almost all foodgrains; scheme (b) if so. the steps being taken by According to P Jral Electrification Cor- Government to check the rising trend of poration. an amount of Rs. 1.96 crores is prices of foodgrains; and likely to be released during the financial ye~r 1987-88 for the Bhimgarh mini hydel (c) what is the Government's policy in scheme, the estimated cost of which is Rs. 4 regard to import of foodgraina to meet the crores. The balance would be released dur- demand during, the year 19881 ing the n.ext financial year based on the progress. The Kharar mini hydel scheme would be considered subsequently. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRV OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUp· The Dep~rtm.nt of Non.conventional PLIES (SHRI D.L BAITHA): Ca) to (c). ",. Energy Sources have received the fol~Wing inform_ion it being collected. 79 Wrnt.n Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 80

011 'exploration by ONGC In other (b) what is the annual demand; countries (c) whether it is a fact that many small 18. SHRI R.M. SHOYE: Will the Minister of scale industries based on plastic are facing PETROLEUM & NATURAL GAS be pleased great difficulty to get High Density Polyethyl· ~o state: ene;and

(a) whether any suggestion has been (d) if SO, the steps being taken to made by the Oil and Natural Gas Commis- procure High Density Polyethylene and sion that it should be allowed to explore oil in supply it to the small plastic units at cheaper other countries also; rate?

(b) if so, the names of countries which THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI have sought the assistance of Union Gov- J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). At present the ernment in this regard; and annual production of High Density Polyethyl- ene (HOPE) in the country is around 40,000 (c) the reaction of Government thereto? tonnes against the estimated annual de- mand of 1,25,000 tonnes. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PET~OLEUM AND NATU- (c) and (d). Even though, to facilitate RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUn) (a) Yes, coverage of the gap between demand and Sir. domestic availability, the import of HOPE is permitted on OGL to actual users (indus- (b) and (c). In pursuance of the agree- trial). the consumer units at times face prob- ment between the Government of India and lems in organizing the requisite imports due the Government of Socialist Republic of to the prevailing world wide shortage of Vietnam to cooperate for exploration of HOPE. Government are organizing imports

I .' bydrooarbons in Vietnam. ONGC llavQ for- through STC & TPCL to help such small mu\ated a proposal which provides for ex- scale units. By way of long term solution to . ptaration and exploitation of hydrocarbons in the problem, additional capacities for the Vietnam on the basis of a production sharing manufacture of HOPE have been approved contract to be concluded between the two and are in the process of being established. sides. Negotiations are expected to be held in Vietnam in March, 1988. ONGC is also Imported Telex Machines installed In working on a proposal for consideration of Delhi Government for exploration in Tanzania. 20. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased Production of High Density Polyethyl- to state: ene (a) whether a number of Imported telex 19. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: Will machines have been installed in Delhi with the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to the various 'subscribers; and state: (b) if so, the criteria of selecting these (a) the annual produCtion of High Dan- subscribers? aIty ""ethylene which it the main raw material for plastic IndU8try; THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 81 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 82

MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS·(SHRI Fel Supplies to States for Public VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). The informa- Distribution tion is being collected and will be laid on the table of the House. 22. SHRI KADAMBUR JANARTHANAN: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVil SUp.. PLIES be pleased to state: Amendment In Power Supply Regula- tion (a) whether any of the State Civil Sup- ply authorities rejected the F.e.1. supply of 21. CH. RAM PARKASH: Will the Minister foodgrains within the stipulated time of 45 of ENERGY be pleased to state: days, if so, the details thereof;

(a) whether Union Government have (b) the quantity of rice rejected sofarby asked the State Governments and the State State authorities, State-wise; and Electricity Boards to amend their power supply regulations to ensure that the pump (c) the steps being taken to avoid such sets installed in future conform to a specified supplies of inferior quality of foodgrains in level of energy efficiency; and f~u~? .

(b) if so, what is the response from the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE State Governments in this regard? MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) to (c). The State Government representatives are pro- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE vided every opportunity by the Fel to inspect DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- and satisfy themselves about quality of TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA toodgrain stocks before taking its delivery. ROHTAGI): (a) Yes, Sir. Only such stocks, which meet the quality requirements and are accepted by the State Government representatives, are issued by (b) So far, only the State Electricity the Fel. Hence the question of subsequent Boards of Andhra Pradesh and Bihar have rejection of stocks by the State Govern· amended their power supply regulations ments does not arise. prescribing energy efficiency levels for pumpsets. The power supply regulations of Class III Posts lying vacant In Telegraph the State Electricity Boards of Karnataka Offices under Central Telegraph Office, and Uttar Pradesh contain certain provisions New Deihl to ensure installation of efficient pumping systems. The Punjab State Elactticrty Board 23. SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: Will the has issued guidelines to ensure installation Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased of efficient pumping systems but is yet to to state: make a formal amendm ent to this effect in its power supply regulations. The State (a) the number of class III posts lying Governments of Manipur, Sikkim and Hima- vacant as on 5.2.1988 in different telegraph chal Pradesh have intimated that the num- offices under the jurisdiction of the Central berof electric pumpsets in their states is very Telegraph Office, New Delhi; small and, therefore, it may not be necessary for them to amend their power supply regu- (b) the departmental rules laid down for lations. filling up vacancies in clus III posta: as Written Answers FEBRUARV 23, 1988 Written Answers 84 , . (e) the time by which these vacancies Major Power Consumers of Natlona' will be filled up and whether the Telegraph Thermal Power Corporation Messengers will also be considered for these posts; and 24. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state:

(d) if so, by what time and the number (a) the major power consumers of the of class III posts reserved for Class IV National Thermal Power Corporation; employees? (b) whether the National Thermal Power Corporation had a proposa~ for laying THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND its own distribution lines to ensure MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI uninterrupted power supplies to its major VASANT SATHE): (a) Nil, please. power intensive consum,ers;

(c) \f so, the steps taken thereon; and '(b) For the Posts of Telegraphists :- (d) the details thereof?

75% by direct recruitm'ent & 250/0 by THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE promotion out of which half reserved for DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- Telegraph Assistants (Group-C) and half for TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA Group-D officials. The promotion is through ROHTAGI): (a) to (d). The National Thermal a competitive examination. Power Corporation (NTPC) supplies power, in bulk, to the State Electricity BoardslElec- For the Posts of Telegraph Assistants:- tricity Supply Undertakings/Union Territo- ries in the various Regions. The Corporation transmits power to the regional grids over 50% by direct recruitment and 50°/1; by Extra High Voltage (EHV) lines; their trans- promotion of the lower grade officials mission line network is evolved on a regional (Group-D) through a competitive test. concept, keeping in view overall system requirements. The region-wise, approved! proposed transmission lines, associated (c) and (d). Do not arise in view of reply with NTPC's power plants, are shown in the against (a) above. Statement below.

STATEMENT' .

Region-wise approved/proposed transmission lines associated with N TPC power plants

Eastern Region :

A. Farakka STPP (3 x 200 + 2 x 500 MW) - Stage I & II

1. Farakka.Jeerat 400 kv Sic 2. Farakka-Durgapur 400 kv SIc Stag.. I '8. _ ...DC ] .' PHALGUNA 4, 1,909 (SAKA) Written Ans...... 86

4. Farakka..Jeerat 400 kv SIc (2nd ckt.) 5. Farakka-Durgapur 400 kv SIc (2nd ckt.) 6. Farakka-Kahalgaon-Biharsharif 400 kv Ole Stage-II 7. Durgapur-Jamshedpur 400 kv SIc 8. Farakka-Lalmatia 220 kv SIc on Ole tower

B. Kahalgaon STPP Stage-I (4 x 210 MW)

1. Loop-in and loop-out of Farakka-Biharshariff 400 kv D/v line at Kahalgaon 2. Kahalgaon-Maithon 400 kv Ole 3. Maithon-Jamshedpur 400 kv Ole 4. Jamshedpur- 400 kv SIc

Southern Region:

A. Ramagundam STPP (3 x 200 + 1 x 500 MW) - Stage-I:

1. Ramagundam .. Hyderabad 400 kv SIc 2. Hyderabad .. Nagarjunasagar 400 kv SIc 3. Nagarjunsagar-Cuddapah 400 kv SIc 4. Cuddapah-Bangalore 400 kv Sic 5. Cuddapah-Madras 400 kv Sic 6. Ramagundam-Nagarjunsagar 400 kv Dlc 7. Nagarjunsagar-Cuddapah 400 kv SIc (2nd cld.) 8. Bangalore-Salem 400 kv Sic

Ramagundam STPP (Stage-II) (2 x 500 MW) :

1. Nagarjunsagar-Raichur 400 kv SIc 2. Raichur-Munirabad 400 kv SIc

B. Central Transmission Project - I :

1. Ramagundam-Khammam 400 kv SIc 2. Khammam-Vijaywada 400 kv SIc 3. Vijaywada-Gazuwaka 400 kv SIc 4. Nagarjunsagar-Gooty 400 kv SIc 5. Gooty-Bangalore 400 kv SIc

Western Region:

A. Korba STPS (3 x 200 + 3 x 500 MW) Stage-I & II

1. • Korba-Bhilai 400 kv 3 x Sic 2. Korba..f

5. Indore-Asoj 400 kv SIc 6.· Bhilai-Chandrapur 400 kv D/c 7. Koradi-Satpura 400 kv SIc

B. Vindhyachal STPS Stage·t (6 x 210 MW)

1. Vindhyachal·Korba 400 kv SIc 2. Vindhyachal-Jabalpur 400 kv Ole 3. Jabalpur-Itrasi 400 kv Olc 4. Itrasi-Indore 400 kv SIc 5. Indore-Asoj 400 kv SIc

Northern Region :

A. Singrauli (5 x 200 + 2 x 500 MW)

1. Singrauli-Obra 400 kv SIc LlLO at Anpara 2. Singrauli-Kanpur 400 kv 2 x SIc 3. Singrauli-Lucknow 400 kv Sic 4. Lucknow-Moradabad 400 kv Sic 5. Moradabad-Muradnagar 400 kv SIc 6. Muradnagar-Panipat 400 kv SIc 7. Kanpur-Agra-Jaipur 400 kv SIc

B. Rihand Stage-I (2 x 500 MW) :

1. Rihand-Singrauli 400 kv SIc 2. Rihand-Kanpur 400 kv Sic 3. Kanpur-8allabgarh 400 kv SIc 4. 8allabgarh-Jaipur 400 kv SIc 5. 8allabgarh-NCRTP (Oadri) 400 kv Olc 6. NCRTP (Oadri)-Mandaula 400 kv Ole 7. NCRTP (Dadri)-Malerkotla 400 kv Sic 8. L1LO of Singrauli·Kanpur (UPSE8) at Kanpur 9. LlLO of Muradnagar (UPSEB)-Panipat at NCRTP (Dadri) 10. LILO of Agra-Jaipur (RSEB) at Jaipur (NTPC) 11. Shifting of Kanpur-Agra line to Kanpur (NTPC) 12. Jaipur (RSEB)-Jaipur (NTPC) 400 kv Ole 13. ±SOO kv Rihand-Dadri - HVOC 8i-pole of 1000 MW capacity

National Telecommunication Net Work measures for establishing a national tele- communication net work; and 25. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased (b) the steps being taken by Govern- to state: ment in consultation with the Technology Missions in this regard? (a) the ttepa being taken to study the ...... technological options and take THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 89 Written AnSW91$ PHALGUNA'4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 90 MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI hexagonal cells each of side 5 Km covering VASANT SATHE): (a) After carefully S1.udy .. an area of about 65 sq. Kms. Thera are Ing the present and likely future trends in 50280 inhabited hexagonal cells in the coun- t~lecommunications, the department has try out of which telecom facility has reached decided to induct digital technology and in about 26000 cells. For the remaining cells, establish progressively a digital national the facility is proposed to be extended by the telecommunication network. end of B th Five Year Plan.

(b) Steps have been taken to set up STATEMENT manufacturing facilities in the country to produce digital equipments in a phased The number of telephone connections in manner for meeting the requirements. Purnea District, block-wise ars given below: Telephone Connections In Purnea s. No. Name of No. of te'... 26. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will Block HQ 'phone the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be in Distt. connec- pleased to state: Purnea tions as on 31.1.1988 (a) the number of telephone connec- tions in Purnea district, block-wise; 1 2 3

(b) the names of blocks in Bihar, dis- 1. Purnea 624 trict-wise which do not have any telephone East con nection; 2. Dhamtaha 11 (c) the target date by which every block shall be connected by telephone; and 3. Bhawanipur 5

(d) the target date by which every 4. Baumaulihi 41 panchayat shall be connected to the tele- phone system? 5. Kaswa 32

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 6. Araria 99 MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) The information is 7. Raniganj 23 furnished in the statement below. 8. Kishanganj 235 (b) Every block headquarter in Bihar has been provided with at least one tele- 9. Kochadhamin 7 phone connection. 10. Bahadurganj 17 (c) Question does not arise. 11. Thakurganj 10 (d) As perthe present hexagonal policy, the department has plans to provide tele- 12. Forbesganj 335 phone facilities (Telephone exchanges or Long Distance Public Telephones) ,in all 13. Kripyanandnagar 1 91 Wrllten Answers FEBRUARY 23t 1988 Written Answsrs 92

1 2 3 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 14. Rupauli 1 DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHIL~ 15. Barhara 1 ROHTAGI): (a) 115 new power schemes of various States have been received in the 16. Baisa 1 Central Electricity Authority for techno-eco- nomic appraisal during the last few years. 17. Amour 1 (b) 77 new power schemes are at 18. Baisi -1 present pending with the Central Electricity Authority for final ctearance. The details are 19. Bhargawa 1 give'n in Statement-I below.

20. Narpatganj 1 (c) and (d). Yes, Sir. The details are given in Statement-II below. 21. Kursakaulia 1 STATEMENT 22. Sikti 1 Details of power schemes of States 23. Palasi 1 pending with the Central Electricity Authority for final clearance 24. Jokihat 1 S. No. Name of Capacity 25. Terraghai 1 Scheme (MW)

26. Dighala bank 1 1 2 3

27. Pothia 1 Haryana

New Power Schemes from States 1. Panipat TPS St. IV 1 x 210

27. SHRt C.K. KUPPUSWAMY: Will the 2. Palwal TPS 4 x 210 Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 3. Bhiwani TPS 4 x 210 (8) the number of new power schemes proposed by States for implementation; 4. Hissar TPS 4 x 210

(b) the nl.. nber of new power schemes Himachal Pradesh pending with the Central Electricity Authority for final clearance; if so, the details thereof; 5. Kof Dam 4x200

(c) whether any proposal has been 6. Baspa Stage-II 4x 75· received from Government of Tamil Nadu for starting a new power scheme; and 7. Baner (Rev) 3x4

(d) if so. the details thereof? 8. Thirot 3 x 1.5 93 Written AnSW91S PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 94

1 2 3 1 2 3

Jammu & Kashmir 26. Vishnu Prayag 3 x 120

Upper Sindh 9. 1 x 35 27. Palamaneri 4 x 100 3 rd Unit 28. Kotashwar 3 x 100 10. Sona Marg (Rav) 3x 28 (Revised to 4 x 100) 11. Athwattoo (Rev) 3x 2.5 29. Tapovan 3 x 120 12. Sewa St. III 3x2 Vishnugarh

13. Munwan Butkot 2 x 11.3 30. Dhauliganga 4x 70 Stage-I (Revised) 14. Boniyar 2 x 1.5 31. Dhauliganga 280 15. Rajouri Small 3x1 Stage-II

16. Naigad 4x 1.5 32. Tehr; Dam-II 4x 250

Punjab 33. Sabail (Revised) 3x1

17. Dorha TPS 2 210 x 34. Belka (Revised) 3x1

18. Dhuri TPS 2 x 500 35. Bhira 3x1

19. UBDC-III 2 15 x Gujarat Rajasthan 36. Narmada TPS 4x500 2 x 500 20. Jakhan. (Rev) 1 x 5.5 37. 5ikka TPS 2 x 210 21. Kota Pumped 2 x 100 Ext. 5t. III' Storage 38~ Combined Cycle 123 22. Jawai 2 x 0.6+ Power Plant at 2 x 0.6 Utran

23. Surat Garh TPS 2 x 210 39. Sim uftaneous 99 Cycle Gas Based 24. Kota Unit-V 1 x 210 Power Station at

Uttar Pradesh i) 8alol ex 5.5MW 25. Oedri Combined 4x 100 G.T.+ Ii) Kalol 6x 5.5 MW CycleG.T. 2 x 100 S.T. .. Wrift.nAnswers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 98 1 2 3 1 2 3

iii) Amka- 6x5.5 MW Maharashtra lashwar 49. Ajanta P.S.S. 3 x 100 40. Combined Cycle 600 TPS based on 50. Chandrapur TPS 1 x 500 Gandhar Field Gas (Unit-7) (Bharuch Distt.) 51. Parli Ie' TPS 2 x 210 4 ,41. Gas based 750 (Units-6 & 7) combined cycle power project in 52. Umrad TPS 2 x 210 South Saurashtra (Units-1 & 2) near Pipavav 53. Chandrapur 2 x 500 42. Joint Captive 135 STPS Power Plant at Baroda-GIPC 54. Koyna S1. IV 4 x 250 Ltd. Gas based Combined Cycle Andhra Pradesh Plant (3 x 30-GT 1 x 45-ST) 55. Jalaput 3x6

Madhya Pradesh 56. Polavaram 12 x 80

43. Bandhav TPS 4x 500 57. Mobile GT Sets 3x3 (joint project at Yanuguvani of Gujarat & Lanka M.P.) 58. Vijayawada TPS 1 x 500 44. Mand TPS 2 x 210 (joint project of Karnataka Gujarat & M.P.) 59. Mangalore TPS 2 x 210 45. Panch TPS 2 x 210 (M.P.) 60. Brindavan 2x6

46. Gas Turbine 3 x 100 61. Shivasamudram 2 x 135 Power Station Seaooni:ll Power in Distt. Gwalior (M.P.) K9rala

47. Sanjay Gandhi 2x 210 62. Anakkayam 2x4 TPS 63. ChalakUdy 2x 60+ .48. Kutru-' 3xSO (Aev.) 2 x 80 97 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 98

1 2 3 1 2 3

64. Diesel Power 100 West Bengal Plant 73. Durgapur 1 x 100 65. Trikariour TPS 2 x 210 Projects Power Station (U-7) 66. Bargo mounted 20 Deisel Power Arunachal Pradesh Plant at Cannanore 74. Nuranang Nallah 4 x 1.5 Tamil Nadu Micro Hydel Scheme 67. Paralayer 1 x 25 Mizoram 68. Cuddalore TPS 3 x 210 75. Serlui 'B' H.E. 3 x 3.5 Bihar Project

69. Tribeni Link Canal 2 x 1.65 Assam

70. Patna TPS 2 x 70 76. Lungit Small 4 x 1.5 H.E. Project Orissa Tripura 71. Manibhadra 24x 40 M.P.P. 77. Additional 10 x 7.5 75 MW gas 72. Canal 5 x 2.3 Turbine Station at Rokhis

STATEMENT.. II

Details of new power schemes received from Tamil Nadu

SI. No. Name of Scheme Capacity Remarks

1 2 3 4

1. Basin Bridge Gas Turbine 4x30

2. Cuddalore TPS 3 x 210

3. Pykara Ultimate stage 150

4. Lower Bhavani RBC 8

S. Sathanoor Dam 15 99 Wrlrten Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 100

1 2 3 4

6. Paralayer HE Project 25

7. Bhavani Kattala; HE Project 90 Involves inter-State aspects. The State authorities have been requested to submit a revised project report after resolving inter- State aspects.

Applications for Telephone connec- (a) whether Union Government are tions In Trlchur District, Kerala aware that loans are being given to educated unemployed youth under self-employment 28. SHRI P .A. ANTONY: Will the Minister scheme by the District Industry Centres; of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (b) if so, whether complain.ts have also (a) the number of applications pending been received with regard to irregularities for new telephone connections in Trichur being committed by officials of many District district of Kerala; and Industry Centres in the matter of giving loans; (b) the schedule for clearing this back- log? (c) if so, whether some irregularities have also been committed in Sitapur and THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 8arabanl

(d) and (8). Do not arise. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRt Sattlng up of Naw Industrial Units In VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir. Punjab (b) Does not arise.

30. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will the ~ Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Introduction of Electronic Mall Service

(a) the details of proposals submitted 32. SHRI P:KOLANDAIVELU: Will the by Punjab Government and pending with Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased Union government for setting up new indus- to state: trial units in the State; (a) whether Government are introduc- (b) how much time is likely to be taken ing an electronic mait service in big cities; by Union Government in clearing the pro- posals; and (b). whether the electronic mail service would be introduced in collaboration with the (c) what further action is being taken by National Information Centre; Union Government in such pending cases? (c) whether delivery under the above THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE scheme would be ensured on the same day; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL· and OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). (d) whether it would be extended to Out of a total of 91 Industrial Licence appli- cover all the cities in the country? cations received from the various Punjab State Government undertakings during the THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND calendar years 1985to 1988 (upto 15.2.88), MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI 48 have already been approved and neces- VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes Sir. The Govern- sary letters of intent issued. Of the remaining ment are introducing eledronic mail service 43 applications, 34 have been rejected/oth- between seven cities i.e. Delhi, Bombay, erwise disposed of and the rest 9 applica- Calcutta, Madras, 8angalore, Hyderabad tions are presently at various stages of proc- and Port Blair. essing. Every effort is being madA to dispose of the pending applications at the earliest. (b) Yes, Sir. (c) Yes, Sir. Introduction of Quick Mall Service (d) No, Sir. 31. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHARTRIPATHI: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Autonomy for Top Executives of Public pleased to state: Sector Undertakings

(a) whether Government have decided 33. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: to introduce Quick Mail Service in some SHRI S.M.GURADDI: other cities of the country; and SHRI BANWARI LAl PURO- HIT: (b) if so, the names of those cities and SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: when the aforesaid service will be intro- duced? WHlthe Minister of INDUSmVbepleuedto 103 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 104 state: (b) ;f so, the reasons therefor;

(a) whether Union Government are (c) whether any representation was taking drastic steps for the merger of perma- received by his Ministry in this regard; and nently sick units, induction of professional talent from private sector and greater auton- (d) if so, the steps taken to ensure omy for'the top executives in order to im- adequate and timely supply of gas cylinders prove the performance of the public sector in Ahmedabad? undertakings; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) if so, whether any formula has been MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- prepared; RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) (a) and (b). A backlog in supply of LPG refills had (c) what are the details of the formula; temporarily developed in December, 1987 in and some markets of Gujarat including Ahme- dabad on account of spurt in demand with (d) by what time the same is likely to be onset of winter. This backlog increased implemented? during January, 1988, on account of supply constraints resulting from 'go slow' on the THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI part of workers at Rajkot Bottling Plant be- J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c) For improving tween January 11 to January 22. 1988. and the performance of various public sector also from the one day's strike by IOC staff at units whose problems differ widely. various Rajkot and Koyali Bottling Plants; steps have to be taken from time to time. There cannot be any single formula of such (c) Yes, Sir; steps applicable to all enterprises. There is no proposal under consideration to merge (d) Normal functioning of the BottHng sick units. Persons from the private sector Plants has since been resumed; refill sup- are also considered for appointment in the plies to Ahmedabad have been stepped up public sector and various measures have substantially with a view to clearing the been taken from time to time to give greater backlog. The supply position has since autonomy to the public sector enterprises improved, and normalcy is expected to be . consistent with accountability. As improving restored within two weeks. the performance of the public sector enter- prises and revamping them is a continuous Performance of Central Industrial process, no time limit can be set for the Projects In Uttar Pradesh same. 35. SHRI VIJOY KUMAR Y ADAV: Will Delay In Supply of LPG Cylinders In the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Ahmedabad state:

34.· SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA: Will the (a) whether it is a fact that number of Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL large central industrial projects in Uttar GAS be pleased to state: Pradesh involving total investment of over Rs. 5500 crores have not come up on sched- (a) whether consumers of LPG in ule; and Ahmadabad are experiencing inordinate delay in supply of gas cylinders; (b) if 80, the details-of these projects 105 Written Answers PHAlGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 106 and the reasons therefor? (Ii) Inaccurate estimation of quantI- ties of work involved. This may THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHAI be due to the reason that the J. VENGAL·~ RAO): (a) and (b). Details of actual ground and sub-soil con ... Central Public Sector p~ojects oostin9 over ditions may not have been taken Rs. 4400 crares which have not come up on into account in a proper manner; schedule as obtained from the latest Project Implementation Status Report for the period (iii) Optimistic estimate of time ir:t .. July to September, 1987, prepared by the volved in carrying out various Ministry of Programme Implementation are activities; given in the statement. Some of the reasons for delay are as under :- (Iv) Non-availability of sufficient funds and non-availability of (i) Inaccurate preparation of feasi·' funds in lime; bility/detailed project reports. The basic assumptions relating (v) Insufficient resOUrce mobilisa- to process.es, raw material, atc. tion by the contractors for exe- might not have been made in a cuting the projects. scientific manner; 1Q7 Written AnSW9ts FEBRUARV 23, 1988 Written Answers 108

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N 113 Written AnswelS PHALGUNA"4. 1909 (SAKA) Profit and Louin Coal India Limited Ltd. vis-a-vis Its subsidiaries and ensuring aCcountability of princi.. 36. SHRI RAM BAHADUR SINGH: pal officers of subsidiaries for the Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to responsibilities assigned to state: them.

(a) the main recommendations of the (c) Suggestions regarding selec- sub-committee set upto go into the profit and tion, appointment. training. ap· loss of the Coal India Limited; praisal, tenure of Chief Execu .. tivas, Functional Directors, Sen- (b) the details of the recommendations ior Executives and part-time Di.. accepted by Government; and rectors.

(c) whether any effective steps have (d) Suggestions regarding improve- been taken to restructure of the entire work- ment in accounting and auditing ing of the Coal India Limited? system.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (e) Suggestions regarding con- DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- sumption of raw materials and TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K. JAFFER inventory control system. SHARIEF): (a) A Sub-Group of the Mem- bers of the Consultative Com mittee of the (f) Improvement in Monitoring Con- Ministry of Energy was constituted by the trol system. Department of Parliamentary Affairs in April, 1986 to go into the details of the following (g) Suggestions regarding saving questions :- the mined coal from fire hazards and checking the shortages in (a) the circumstances which led stocks. Coal India. Ltd. to indicate an estimated profit of Rs. 13.83 (b) and (c). The finding and recommen- era res for the -financial year dations of the Sub-Group have by and large 1984-85; been accepted by the Government and Coal India Limited has been instructed to improve (b) the reasons for wrong estimation its working on the lines suggested. of profit. ultimately leading to loss of Rs. 78 crores by the Coal India Ltd., during the same pe- Multi-Pronged Strategy Adopted by riod. ONGC

The Sub-Group submitted its report in 37. SHRI S.B. SIDNAL: Will the Ministarof August, 1986. The Sub-Group made recom- PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be mendations covering the following matters:- pleased to state:

(a) whether the Oil and Natural Gas (a) Budget formulation and cost Commission has decided to Give a new computation and control. impetus to its efforts to encourage .ndigsn- isation in its operations through a multi.. (b) Defining the role of Coal India pronged strategy; '15 Written AnSwelS FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers . 116

(b) whether the areas have been iden- regarding action taken against variaspati ttfled for special attention; manufacturers producing more than pre- scribed Hmit and state: (c) H so, whether Union Government have also referred to about 30 applications (a) the action taken against the parties from Indian industries to the ONGC for serv.. to whom show cause notices were Issued; ice contracts; and and

(d) to what extent this mUlti-pronged (b) the details of more cases which strategy will be helpful to the ONGC in pro- have come to the notice of Government and moting indlgenisation of oil sector? the action taken 1hereon?

,THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMADUTT): (a) and PLIES (SHAr D.L. BAITHA): (a) Twice the (b). ONGC have been continuing with their quantity of imported oils used in excess of efforts to encourage indigenisation in its the prescribed limit has been deducted from operations. Indigenisation is sought to be the subsequent entitlements of the parties achieved' in the manufacture of oil field concerned. equipment and chemioals and rendering of 011 field services. (b) In the State of Maharashtra. as per available information. only one party has (c) Government have been seeking the used imported oils in the manufacture of views of ONGC on the applications received vanaspati in excess of the prescribed limit. A from Indian industries for foreign collabora- show cause notice has been issued 10 the tion. industrial licence and capital goods party. import. However. contracts for services are awarded by ONGC on the basis of normal Price Increase of Imported Edible 011, tendering procedures. Sugar and Rice

(d) The efforts of ONGC have contrib- 39. SHAI HANNAN MOLLAH: uted to the establishment of, indigenous SHRI R.P. DAS: capabilities in- the manufacture of offshore SHAI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: and onshore drilling r;gs, offshore platforms, SHRI SURESH KURUP: well head and X-mass trees, BOP control DR. SUDHIR ROY: units, oil well chemicals, etc. In the service sector, indigenisalion has been mainly in the Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- management of offshore supply vessels, PLIES be pleased to state: drilling servic;es, seismi&:.idata acquisition services, etc. (a) whether'Government have recently increased the prices of imported edible oils, Production of Vanaspatl by Manufactur- sugar and rice; ers In Maharashtra (b) if so, the reasons for this increase; 38. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES i:>e (c) whether this increase is intended to pleased to ret., to the repty given to Unstar- achieve reduction in consumption of essen- red Question No. 428 on 25 August. 1987 tial commoditi.. ; and · 1 17 . Written An.wets PHALGUNA 4. 1909 (SAKA) Written An,.,. 118 (d) if so, the impact of this price rise on AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: common man? (8) whether the supply of gas through THE' DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the HBJ Pipelin~ to the fertilizer plarts at- MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- re'ady completed has been· delayed and ·18 PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) The Central much less than the requirements; Issue prices of imported edible oil and rice have been increased from 23.12.87 and (b) if so, the details thereof and the 1.1 0.87 respectively. There has been no reasons therefor; and increase In the price of imported sugar. However, retail price of Jevy sugar (both (c) the loss suffered by the fertilizer indigenous as well as imported) supplied to , plants? consumers under PDS has been increased from Rs. 4.85 per Kg. to Rs. 5.10 per Kg. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF· THE w.e.f. 1.1.88~ MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUn): (a) No, Sir• .(b) , The reasons for increase are as under :- (b) and (c). Do not arise.

Edible Oil: A wide gap between Dankunl Coal Complex~ Hooghly (We. the prices of imported oils and Bangsl) that in the domestic market might lead to malpractices such 41. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA SINHA: as leakage into unauthorised Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to channel. A very low price may state: act as a disincentive to domestic production. (a) whether the project pertaining to Dankuni Coal Complex. Hooghly (West Sugar: On account of increase 8'engal) has been further delayed and thera in the statutory minimum price of has been tremendous cost escalation due to sugarcane and manufacturing such detay; cost of sugar. (b) if so, the details thereof; and '\ Rice : Due to increase in the procurement price of paddy. (c) what further steps are being taken in this regard? (c) It is neither inte'nded nor expeded to reduce the consumption of these commodi- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ties. DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN TLfE MINIS.. TRY OF ~NERGY (SHRI C.K. JAFFAR (d) The increase is marginal and as SHARIEF): (a) to (c). Dankuni Coal Complex such .will not have much impact on common was sanctioned by the Governmant of India man. in 1980 with a cost estimate of Rs. 49.27 crores. Heavy Engineering Corporation was Supply of HBJ PlpeUne Gas to Fertilizer appointed as the turn key contractor for the Plants project which was scheduled to b$ com- pleted in 1984. The project has got delayed 40. SHRI YASHWANTRAO GADAKH due to initial difficulties in land filling at ..., PATll: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM import of technology and delay in procure- 119 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Wnlten Answers 120 ment of equipment etc. The revised cost RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUn): (a) and estimate of the project has been assessed (b). A joint Indo-Soviet seismic survey party upto June, 1986 which is of the order of Rs. is currently working in Oaganga area in West 117.77 crores. As per the revised schedule, Bengal. The party has acquired 67 GlK of the project is likely to be completed by Sap· seismic data during the current field season. .amber, 1988. (c) and (d). VIC Technoexport of the To ensure completion of the project as USSR have a plan to drill 46 wells in Cauvery per revised schedule, the following steps and 26 wells in Cambay (North) onshore have been taken: basins under the intensive integrated explo- ration programme. Drilling of the first well i) Close monitoring'oftha project at has cc.)mmenced in Cambay basin in Sep- various levels; tember 1987, and in Cauvery basin in No- vember 1987. ii) HEC has strengthened Its super- vision to streamline the work at Setting up of Energy Conservation site; Commission

iii) multiple shifts have been intro- 43. SHRI V. SREENIVASA duced; PRASAD: SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO- iv) manpower has been aug- HIT: mented. Will the Minister of ENERGY be Joint 011 Exploration Surveys by ONGC pleased to state: and USSR (a) whether Government propose to set 42. SHRI SAMBHAJIRAO up an Energy Conservation Commission to KAKADE: make energy conservation more effective; SHAt BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: (b) if so, when the proposed commis- sion will be set up; Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (c) the details of the recommendations made by the Kapoor Committee on energy (a) whether jOint oil exploration surveys conservation; and were carried out recently by the Oil and Natural Gas Commission (ONGe) and (d) the steps taken by Government to Soviet Union; implement the recommendations?

(b) if so, the details thereof; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- (c) whether USSR will drill more oit TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA wells in Cambay and Cauvery; and ROHTAGI): (a) No decision has so far been taken to set up an Energy Conservation (d) if so, the detaits thereof? Commission.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) Does not arise. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- 121 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 122'

(c) and (d). The Committee has made a States concerned in the Northern Region number of suggestions regarding conserva- and the Lt. Governor of Delhi was convened tion of energy in the industrial, transport and to devise measures to ensure a stable and agricultural sectors. These suggestions in- disciplined operation of the Northern Grid so corporate short-term and lo~g-term meas- that the power requirements of all the States! ures which inter-alia include introduction of U.T. can be met to the maximum extent energy audits in industries, installation of possible in the coming months. waste-heat recovery and co-generation systems, ,equipment and process modifica- (b) The present power shortage is tions, rectification of inefficient agricultural mainly on account of the shortfall in the hydel pumpsets and adoption/development of generation due to low reservoir levels and an energy efficient technologies in the industrial increase in agricultural demand due to the ' and transport sectors. The Committee has wide spread drought conditions. A contin- also stressed the need for an effective or- gency plan has been formulated and imple- ganisational set up, a revolving fund, fiscal mented to augment thermal generation incentives, educational and awareness pro- which is expected to exceed the t~rget in the grammes, and display of levels of energy current year by about 5 billion units. The consumption on different equipments and measures being taken to increase the appliances. The energy conservation strat- availabili!y of power also include expediting egy of the Government enpompasses most commissioning of new capacity, implemen- of these suggestions and action is being tation of short gestation projects, improving taken on a continuing basis to implement the performance of existing power stations, energy conservation measures. reducing transmission and distribution losses and implementation of demand Meeting of Chief Ministers of Northern management and energy conservation States on Power Crisis measures.

44. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: Will the Expansion of Telephone Exchanges In Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Kerala

(a) whether an apprehension was 45. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the Minister expressed in a recent meeting of the Chief of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: Ministers of the Northern States that power crisis will aggravate further in the next few (a) the numberoftelephone exchanges months; and expanded in Kerala during" 1987-88;

(b) if so, whether Governme~t are (b) the amount spent thereon; and considering any long term plan to win over the power crisis and to increase the power (c) the proposals for the expansion of generation in proportion to the demand and telephone exchanges in 1988-891 if so, the details thereof and the main rea- sons for the co~in uance of the power crisis? THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI -THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE VASANT SATHE): (a) 65 numbers of Tel.- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- phone Exchanges have been expanded io . TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA Kerala from 1.4.87 to 31.1.88. AOHTAGI): <8> 'There is a power shortage and a meeting of the Chief Ministers of the (b) An amoal'nt of about Rs. 43 cro .... 123· Wrllten Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answ91S 124 has been spent on the above expansion pleased to state: work. (a) whether Government of Himachal (c) During the year 1988.. 89 it is pro~ Pradesh has given its commitment for the posad to expand the telephone exchanges payment of NRC for the upgradation of cer- . as mentioned below. tain EDBOSIEDSOS to the status of Depart- mental Sub-Offices w.e.f. financial year i) One new main telephQne ex- 1988-89; .change of 500 lines at Calicut. (b) if so, the names .of such Extra Ii} 6 existing main telephone ex· Departmental Post Offices district-wise for changes which the commitment has baan given alongwith the amount in each case; and iii) About 33 medium size tele- , phone exchanges are to be (c) the likely date by which the upgrada- expanded which includes re- tion would be effected consequent upon this placement of 5 exchanges. commitment of the State Government to bear the loss on account of upgradation? iv) 10 new small electronic ex- changes. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI v) About 20 small exchange to be VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. opened/expanded subject to availability of demand & re- (b) The required information is fur- sources. nished in the enclosed stateme It.

UpgradatJon of EDBOS/EDSOS to the Status of Departmental Sub Offices In (c) Besides the Non-Returnable Contri- tUmachal Pradesh bution, there are other prerequisites also to be fulfilled before the post offices are up- 46. PROF. NARAfN CHAND PARASHAA: graded. At this stage it is not feasible to Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be indicate any likely date in this regard.

STATEMENT

Namss of Extra departmental sub or branch post'offices (EDSOsIEDBOs) in Himachal Pradesh proposed for upgradation to the level of departmental sub post offices on the basis of Non Returnable Contribution (NRC) to be paid by the State.

Postal Division Name of EDBOIEDSO Amount of NRC

1 2 3

Chamba 1. Bhallai 48,886.00 2. Garola 53,103.00

Dehra 3. Guier 43,049.00 125 Written Answel'5 PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 128

1 2 3

Dhararrisala 4. Majherna 44,703.00 5. Paraur 42,549.00 6. Rej 43,475.00

Hamirpur 7. Bassikhahlow 44,945.00 8. Bhadsull 43,779.00 9. Harlog 47,148.00 10. Shankali 41,839.00 1.1. Marwari 45,602.00 12. Kashmir 45,695.00 13. Raghunath Pura 42,099.00 14. Thana Kalan 41,004.00 15." Bohanwin 43,739.00 16. Chabotra 39,732.00 17. Talmera 46,631.00 18. Sambloo 44.171.00

Mandi 19. Bhootti 43,571.00 20. Bhang 44,001.00 21. Pangna 48,853.00 22. Gagal 38,846.00 23. Janjhali 48,148.00 24. Thunag 42,681.00 25. Gopalpur 37,168.00 26. Larankalo 47,446.00 27. Jares 44,723.00 28. Balichowki 42,415.00

Shimla 29. Jangla 45,739.00 30. Mandai 50,739.00 31. Mandhole 48,675.00 32. Charoli 57,043.00 33. Dec Khaneti 54,280.0~ 34. Ribba 58,281.00 35. Arsu S7,235.pO 36. Sagnam 54,782.00 37. Katgaon 53,541.00,

38.. Chailla 46t 259.00 39. Kewar 60,255.00 40. Sandu 51,646.00 41. Delaith 56,034.00 42. Arhat 57,522.00 43. Samer Kot 48,038.00 44 . Baghi 53,162.00 .45. Balog 58,993.00 127 Written Answ91S FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 128

1 2 3

46. Mamligh 41,673.00 47. 8addi 36,226.00 48. Diggal 46,700.00 49. Patta 39,006.00 50. Koula wala 44,167.00

Kerosene Quota to Eastern Uttar Pradesh during 1987 and the previous 3 Pradesh years are given below :-

47. SHRI RAM SAMUJHAWAN: Will Year, Quantity allotted the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS be pleased to state: 1987 766204tonnes

(a) whetherthe villages in eastern Uttar 1986 693414tonnes Pradesh are not getting their full quota of kerosene oil and by and iarge the same is 1985 679500tonnes gOing in the blackmarket; 1984 638520tonnes (b) if so, the steps proposed to be taken to ensure that the rural population get their (d) It will be seen from the figures given full quantity of kerosene at controlled rates; above that the kerosene quota of Uttar Pradesh has been increased every year in (c) how much kerosenti oil was allotted accordance with the existing policy which is to Uttar Pradesh during 1987 as compared proposed tf) be continued in the future also. to the last three years; and Increase In Price of Major Energy (d) the steps ,taken to increase the Inputs quota of kerosene oil to ea$tern Uttar Pradesh in particular and Uttar Pradesh as a 48. SHRI H.B.PATIL: Will the Minister whole? of INDUSTRY be pleased to states:

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) Whether there has been increase in MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- the Prices of all major energy inputs for RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMADUTI): (a) No industries durjng the last three years; • report in this regar€J has been received from

the Uttar Pra~esh Govt. t who, like other (b) If, so , 10 what extent, and State Governments, undertakes and con .. trois the retail distribution of kerosene in the (c) The steps Government propose to State. take in this regard?

(b) Does not 'arise in view of the reply to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN lliE above. .. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL· OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- , (c) ,Kerosene ailotments made to Uttar TRY (SHRI M.ARUNACHALAM):(a) to (b). . 129 Written AnsWSlS PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 130

According to Official Index Number of ment of Indices of wholesale price of the Wholesale Prices in India compiled by the major energy puts during the past 3 years Office of the Economic Adviser, the move- was as follows:

Index Number of Wholesale Prices (Base: 1970-71 -100)

Items Annual Average of Index

.l..Wia llB.Z

Coal 641.9. 728.8 733.4 (+13.5) (40.6)

Coke 575.2 605.6 606.3 (+5.3) (+O~'1 )

Lignite 510.4 534.0 531.6 (+4.63 (-0.4)

Furnace Oil 1372.5 1412.5 1412.5 (+2.9) (NC)

Electricitv 461.0 550.6 608.5 (+19.4) (+10.5)

NC: No. change.

Figures in brackets show percentage variation compared to previous year,

(c) The price of these energy inputs are Minister of COMMUNICATION be pleased administered ~y the concerned authorities. to state: Necessary, adj~stments are made depend- ing on various factors including the cost of (a) the number of post Offices and production. Telegraph Offices and' Telephone Ex- changes proposed to be opened during the . Efforts are being made to reduce the year 1988-89 in Orissa; and cost of production by, improving the effi- ciency of operation, reducing administrative (b) the target of Government for Sev- expenses, better utilisation of man & ma- enth Plan period and the achievements so chinery and introduction of better manage- far? ment practices and technological innova- tion. MINISTER OF ENERGY AND UINIS- TER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAt VAS- Opening of Post Offlce8 T.legraph Of- ANT SATHE):(a) Post OffICBS: According to fice., .nd T.lephone Exchang•• In the present assessment, 29, gram pan.. Ortau chayata in Orissa which do not have a poet offICe may be provided with a poet offiaI 49. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will the , each under Annuai Plan 1988-89. 131 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 132 Telegraph Offfces and Teiephone Ex- Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be Changes: It is planned to open 20 telephone pleased to state: exchanges and 75 telegraph offices (com .. binad offices) in Orissa during 1988-89. (a) the details of foodgrains supplied to Himachal Pradesh since December 1987 till (b) Post Offices; The Seventh Plan date, provides for 6,000 new post offices of the country as a whole. Till date 92 new branch (b) whether the demand of the state post offices have been opened. was fully met; and

Telegraph Office & Telephone Exchanges: (c) the quantity of foodgrains given to flour mitis for marking flour in that State Ts/ephons Ts/egraph Offices Exchanges (Combined Offices) THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Seventh 115 465 MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- Target PLIES (SHRI D.l.BAITHA): (a) and (b). A statement indicating the required informa- Achievement 71 262 tion is given below: (upto 31.1.1988)

Foodgralns Supply to Himachal (c): The Food Corporation of India sold Pradesh 2610 tonnes of wheat to RoUer Flour Mills in Himachal Pradesh for the period from 50. SHRI K.D. SUlTANPURI: Will the 1.12.87 to 18.2.88. 133 Written Answers PHAlGUNA 4, 19o9 (SAKA ) Written Answ9fS 134

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C") 0 tJ) .~ ai 0 d I a: ..- ...- 1·i Q oj ·f i .8 ...... == fA • c: ~ eo ~ ~ ... ~ 0') - .: ...... ~ I fI) ~ ~ QS ~ as ::J • ! ::a .... ~ i § c: .CJ ~ Q ~ IJ..• 135 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 136

Sick Industrial Units In West Bengal so that corrective measures are taken in time. The banks and financial institutions 51. KUMARI MAMATA BANERJE: Will also formulate rehabilitation packages for the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to the rehabilitation of sick units which are state: potentially viabl'e. Government have, in addition, enacted a comprehensive legisla- (a) the number and names of sick tion, namely "The Sick Industrial Companies Industries in West Bengal as on 1 January, (Special Provisions) Act, 1985" which pro- 1988; vides for setting up of a quasi-judicial body designated as the Board for Industrial and (b) the estimated number of employees Financial Reconstruction (BIFR) to deal with affeded by the increasing number of sick the problems of sick industrial companies in industries in the State; and an effective manner. The BIFR has become fully operational with effect form 15th may, (c) the concrete steps Government 1987. propose to take to ensure early closure of the sick establishments so as to reduce unem- STATEMENT ployment problem in the State Industry-wise break-up of 150 sick units in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the large scale sector in West Bengal as at DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- the end of June 1986. OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) :(a) Data Name of the Industry No. of Units on sick industrial units assisted by banks in the country are collected by the Reserve 2 3 Bank of India as perthe definition of sickness. adopted by it.' According to the latest infor- 1. Engineering & 36 mation available form RBI. the number of Electricals sick units in the State of West Bengal as at the and of June 1986 is as under 2. Iron & Steel 10

Name of Number Number 3. Textiles 10 the State of large of sick sick units 5S1 units. 4. Chemicals 7

Wast Bengal 150 24200 5. Jute 4Q

Industry-wise break -up of 150 sick units in 6. Sugar 1 the large scale sector is given in the State- ment below. 7. Cement

(b) This information is not centrally 8. Rubber 5 maintained. 9. Miscellaneous 41 (c) The Reserve Bank of India have issued guidelines to the banks for strength ... aning the monitoring system and for arrast- Total 150 ing industrbtl -r.kness at the incipient stage 137 Written Answsrs PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written AnswetS 138

Exploration By ONGC In Andhra Refund of Advance Money by Automo- Pradesh bile MP"ufacturer.

52. SHRI BHATIAM SRIRAMA 53. SHAt MOi ;0. MAHFOOZ ALI MURTY: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM KHAN:WiII the Minister of Industry be AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: pleased to state:

(a) whether the Oil and Natural Ga~ (a) whether Government. are aware of Commission has failed to make any sub- the plight of thousands of depositors seeking stantial new finds of-oil alld gas except in the refund of their advance money with certain Krishna Godavary basin; automobile manufacturers viz, Lohia Ma- chines, Andhra Pradesh Scooters and (b) if not, the details of such new finds; Scooters India Limited, Inspite of the guide- and lines issued to the automobile manufactures regarding utilisation of advance money and (c) what are the current activities and to arrange early refund of the advance programmes of the Oil and Natural Gas 110ney on demand by the depositors; Commission in Andhra Pradesh? (b) if so, whether Government have THE MIN_ISTER OF STATE OF THE made any check to know as to how far the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- guidelines are being implemented by the RAL GAS (SHAI BRAHMADUTI) :(a) automobile manufacturers in the utilisation and(b) No Sir, Besides Krishna Godavari of depositors money;and basin, ONGC have discovered oil /gas in other basins during current year as under:- (c) if so, the outcome thereof and what Basin Prospect oil/gas rem~dial measures are being contemplated by Government to facilitate refund to the Tamil Nadu Bhuvanagiri oil depositors in time?

Tripura Agartala Dome gas THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- West Coast 8-132 oil OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Gov- 8-134 oil ernment is aware that there are a number of cases where, on being asked by the pro- C-22 gas spective customers to do so, certain compa- nies have taken unduly long time to refund 8-80 oil the advance money taken by them against booking of vehicles. C-24 gas (b) Reports are receiyed form some companies regarding deployment of the (c) At present. three seismic parties are advance collected by them form the custom .. working in (on- ers in pursuance of the guidelines issued by shore). Besides this, seven drilling rigs( 2 in the Government. Offshore and 5 in Onshore) are in operation in this basin. (c) Whenever a complaint is received 139 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 140 by the government regarding delay in refund state: of advance money. It is taken up with the company concerned for providing prompt (a) actual demand of major synthetic relief to the complainant. Government is also rubbers (SBR, PBR and Butyle) in the coun- urging the manufacturers form time to time to try 1987-88 State wise. attend to the complaints received by them and to refund the advance money without (b) what is the actual indigenous pro- delay. duction of Synthetic rubbers in the country during 1987-88 State - wise; and Price of Petrol (c) how the gap between supply and 54. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI demand during 1987-88 has been met? SHAKTAWAT: Will the Minister of PETRO- LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI state: J. VENGAL RAO):(a) The estimated de- mand of major synthetic rubbers during (a) whether it is a fact that prices of 1987-88 is around 75,000 MT. As the user petrol in India are higher than in any other sector is largely decentralised and also country in the World, if so, the reasons synthetic rubbers have a range of substitu- therefor; tion with natural rubber, State.-wise split upof the demand projection is not feasible. (b) the price of petrol fixed by OPEC at present; and (b) The state-wise production of vari- ous synthetic rubbers during 1997-88 (April- (c) whether the prices of petrol'will be December 1987) has been as follows: reduced after entering into contracts with foreign companies for petrol exploration and Gujarat PBR 10,125 MT conducting research in the field of petroleum in the country ? Uttar Pradesh SBR 20,825 MT

MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINIS- (c) Imports are allowed as per policy. TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTT) (a). No, Sir. Price Increase of Sugar and Edible Oils

(b) OPEC. does not fix prices for petrol. 56. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the Minister of FOOO AND CIVIL SUPPJ-IES be (C) There is no such proposal at pres- pleased to state: ent. (a) when the administered prices of sugar and edible oils sold in public distribu- Demand and Production of Syn- tion system were enhanced; thetic Rubbers (b) the amount to be realised during the 55. SHRrMAT' D.K.BHANOARI: Will current financial year due to this increase; the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to and refer to the reply given to Un starred au ..- tIon No. 4738 on 8, Dacamber, 1987 regard- (c) whether Government propose to ing' requirement 01 synthetic rubber and take steps to reconsider the enhanced rates 141 Written Answers ·PHALGUNA 4.1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 142 and reduce the same in view of great, hard- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ship caused to poor and middle class DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS .. people? TRY OF ENERGY (SHRJMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI) :(a) and (b). Project reports for 9 THE DEPUTY MINISER IN THE MIN- hydroelectric projects in the North-Eastern ISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES Region with an aggregate installed capacity . (SHRI D.L.B~ITHA) (a) While the retail of 1077.5 MW have be~n received in the issue price of levy sugar has been increased Central electricity Authority for techno.. eco- by 25 paise per kilogram with effect form nomic appraisal. In addition, the Brahmputra 1.1.1988 the issue prices of imported edible Board has been entrusted with examination oils have been enhanced from 23.12.1987. of certain important issues relating to Dihang Hydroelectric Project (40x500 MW), Suban- (b) In the case of levy sugar, realisation siri Hydroelectric Project (12x400 MW) ard from price increase will accrue to the indus- Tipaimukh Hydroelectric Project try by way of higher ex-factory price on (' Ox, 50MW) in the North Eastern Region account of increased cost of production before these Projects are considered for consequent upon increase in the statutory approval/implementation. minimum price of sugarcane and manufac- turing cost of sugar based on cost schedules furnished by the Export Body, namely, the Opening of Public Call Offices In Bureau of Industrial Costs & Prices. Orissa

In the case of edible oils, it is not pos- 58. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS:Wili sible to indicate at this stage the estimate of the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be the amount to be realised due to increase in pleased to state: the prices as it would depend on the quan- tum of monthly allocations of the commodity (a) the number and names of places to be made to the StatelUnion Territories. where public call offices have been installed in Orissa durinq 1987-88; and (c) No, Sir.

Setting up of Hydro-Electric Power (b) the number and names of places Projects In North·East Region where new public call offices proposed to be opened in Orissa during 1988-891 57. SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA: SHRI AJOY SISWAS: SHRI SATYAGOPAL THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MISHRA: MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SATHE):(a) Thirty five long dis.. Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to tance public telephones hav~ been installed state: in Orissa during 1987-88 upto 31.1.88 the names of which are given in the statement (a) whether there is any plan to set up below: some more hydro electric pOwer projects in the North-East region which has the highest (b) Seventy five long distance public hydel power potential in the country; and telephone are proposed to be opened in 1088-89, the names of the place are not yet (b) If so; the details thereof? • identified. 143 Written Answ9rs , FEBRUARY 23, 1989 Written Answers 144

STATEMENT

Long Distance Public Telephones installed in Orissa Circle upto 31.1.88.

District Long Distance Public Telephone

1 2

Balasore 1. Nuaga Ichhapur 2. Keshiv Jaipur 3. Kusuda

Mayurbhanj 4. Jipabandha

Ganjam 5. Ganju

Phulbani 6. Dadaci

Puri 7. Sunderpur 8. Notera 9. Nandan Kanan.

Cuttack 10. Rajibi 11. Jagannath Prassad

12. Megha 13. Jaffarpur 14. Pina 15. Bansaria 16. Kakareba

Sundergarh 17. Gopana '8. AaiBoga 19 Kalta 20. Samlaimunda 2~. Bandal 22. Dumabahal 23. Sanbiringajhar

Kalahandi 24. Duajhar 25. Sulaichla 26. Damjhar 27. Dhanar

Bolangir 28. Baldihi 145 Written Answers PHALGUNA4, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answ9fS 146"

1 2

Sambalpur 29. Borab 30. Badatunda 31. Durlega 32. Nagardahal

Keonjhar 33. Banasnali 34. Jamoda 35. 8aragoda.

Special Refractory Project In Karala import of capital goods for a value of Rs 1124. lakhs was rejected on account of in- 59. PROF. K.V. THOMAS:Will the adequate information furnished by the coni:.' Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: pany.

(a) whether Kerala Government has Additional Allocation of Foodgralns for submitted a proposal to start a special re- Drought Affected States fractory project at Persuman in Quiton Dis- trict, Kerala; and 60. SHAI V.S. VIJAYAAAGHAVAN: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- (b) if so, the action taken or proposed to PLIES be pleased to state: be taken in the matter? (a) whether additional allocation of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE foodgrains has been made to the drought DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL· affected States; OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) :(a) and (b) if so, the details thereof; and b). MIs. Kerala State Industrial Development Corporation Ltd, were granted a letter of (c) the additional allocation made to intent No. 331 (77) dt. 10.1 0.77forthe manu- Kerala? facture of special refractories of various types for a total capacity of 12.000 tonnes THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE per annum at Village Perinad, Taluk and MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- Distt. Quiton in Kerala, Subsequently,. the PLIES: (SHRI D.L.BAITHA) (a~ and (b). yes, letter of intent was endorsed in the name of Sir, the ~lIocation of foodgrains for public MIs. Kerala Special Refractories Ltd. On distribution system during the period Ju1Y,87 fulfilment of the conditions of the letter of to March, 88 has been 161 .82 lakh lonnes intent, the letter of intent has been converted compared to 149.74 lakh tonnes during the into an Industrial Licence No.CIL:153(87) period July 86 to March, 87 In addition, a dated 16.4.87. The company has also been quantity of 10.26 lakh tonnes of foodgrains granted· approval for foreign collaboration has been allotted to various States specifi- with MIs. TYAZHPROMEXPORT. USSR, cally for drought/calamity relief and 47,500 and for the import of the Capital Goods for a tonnes of wheat for drought nutrition pro- value of Rs. 670 lakhs by GoY.rnment. gramma during 1987-88, besides an addi· However, the company'. application for the tional allocation of 5 lakh tonnes under 147 Written Answ9fS FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 148

NREP/RLEGP .. Roil-On-Roll-Off Facility at Bombay port and, Nhava Island (c) The allocation of rice to ~erala during the period July, 87 to March, 88 was 62. SHRI KAMAL NATH: Will the Min- , 2.95 lakh tonnes compared to 12.55 lakh ister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS tonnesduringJuly, 86to March, 87 Besides, be pleased to state: a quantity of 25.9 thousand tonnes was also allocated to Kerala as additionality under (a) whethertha country first roll-on-roll- NREP/RLEGP and 2000 tones under off facility built at a cost of over three crore Drought Nutrition Programme. rupees at.Bombay port and at Nhava Island for the exclusive use of the oil and Natural Gas Commission, has been rendered idle Allotment of Gas Agency at GanJba- within three months. of its installation; and ,. sauda, Mad hya Pradesh (b) if so, the reasons therefor? 61. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL THE MINSTER OF STATE OF THE GAS be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUn): (a) and (a) whether it is a fact that a gas agency (b). The experimental operations of trans- for IGanjbasauda' in Vidisha district of porting loaded trucks and trailers through Madhya Pradesh has been allotted to the Roll on Roll off ferry under foreign flag outsiders instead of local persons; chartered form an Indian party, between the Bombay port and Nhava supply base were discontinued by the ONGC after three (b) if so, the reasons for not selecting months of experimental operations as this, the persons from amongst the local people mode of transportation proved uneconomic. as per the advertisement in this regard; Allocation of Foodgrains (c) whether this allotment is now being reconsidered; and 63. DR. V.VENKATESH: Will the Min- ister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be (d) the time by which the cooking gas pleased to state: facility is likely to be provided to the residents of this area? (a) the state Government which have approached Union Government recently to increase. the monthly allocation of MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINIS- foodgrains; TRY OF PETROLEUM & NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTI) : (a) No, Sir, (b) if so, the details thereof; and

(b) and (c). Do not arise in view of (a) (c) the decision taken by Government in above; this regard?

(d). Indian Oil Corporation has issued THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the Letter of Intent to the distributor_elect MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPllES In November. 1987. Com~issiOning of the (SHRI D.L.BAIiHA):(a) to (c). The State distributorship ,is under way. Governments/Union Territories are r8- 149 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 150 quested every month to intimate their realis- availability and other related factors. These tic requirements of wheat and rice form the allotments are, however, only supplemental Central Pool for issue through the Public in nature. Distribution System,. The allotments of wheat and rice are made to the various A statement indicating demands and States/Union Territories on a month to allotments of rice and wheat for Public Distri- month basis, taking into account the overall bution System in respect of various state ayailability of stocks in the Central Pool. Governmentilinion Territories during Feb- relative needs of the various States, market ruary, 1988 is given below:

STATEMENT

(In 'ODD tonnes)

States/Union DEMAND ALLOTMENT Territories

Rice Wheat Rice Wheat

1 2 3 4 5

Andhra Pradesh 200.0 21.0 70.0 21.0

Arunachal Pradesh 6.5 0.8 6.5 0.8

Assam 45.0 42.0 40.0 36.4

Bihar 50.0 150.0 20.00 110.0

Goa 4.05 1.5 4.05 1.5

Gujarat 35.0 120.0 35.0 60.00

Haryana 3.5 42.0 3.5 40.0

Himachal Pradesh 10.5 25.0 6.5 15.0

Jammu & Kashmir 24.0 13.5 30.0 15.0

Karnataka 75.0 25.0 55.0 25.0

Kerala 200.0 35.0 135.0 35.0

Madhya Pradesh 35.0 50.0 25.0 50.0

Maharashtra 75.0. 100.0 60.0 100.0 15'1 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 152

1 .2 3 4 5

Manipur 8.0 4.0 5.50 2.0

Meghalaya 13.0 2.5 9.5 2.1

Mizoram 10.0 1.05 6.5 1.05

Nagaland 9.0 4.0 7.5 2.0

Orissa 40.0 33.0 20.0 23.0

Punjab 1.5 10.0 . 1.5 10.0

Rajasthan 4.0 140.0 4.0 130.0

Sikkim 4.5 1.5 4.5 0.25

TamH Nadu 100.0 30.0 80.0 30.0

Tripura 14.5 2.5 12.5 2.5

Uttar Pradesh 150.0 120.0 50.0 100.0

West 8engal 150.0 130.0 110.0 126.0

Andaman & N icobar Island

Chandigarh 0.5 1.8 0.5 1.8

Oadra & Nagar Haveli 0.5 0.2 0.2 0.1

Daman & Diu 0.45 0.1 0.45 0.15

Delhi 30.0 60.0 25.0 50.0

Lakshadweep

Pondicherry 2.5 0.3 2.5 0.3

TOTAL 1302.00 1166.75 830.70 990.95

Opening of Post-Offices and Telegraph Ministerof COMMUNICATIONS be pleased Office. In Andhra Pradesh to state:

64. SHRI TI. BALA GOOD: Will the Cal the number of post offices and 153 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 154 telegraph offices proposed to be opened in Telegraph Office: Yes, Sir. Andhra Pradesh during the year 188-89; Network Development of Tpl.communl· (b) what was the target for the year cations 1987-88 ;and 65. SHRI E. AVYAPU REDDY:WiII the (c) whether the target was fully Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be please achieved; if not, the reasons therefor? to state:

THE MINISTER OF" ENGERY AND (a) whether specific areas have been MINITER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI identified in the network development of VASANT SATHE): (a) Post offices telecommunications where private sector can operate; and It is not feasible at this state to indicate how many new post offices may be opened (b) If so, the number of such companies in Andhra Pradesh during 1988-89. which have established industrial units relat- ing to telecommunications? Telegraph Offices: THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 5 telegraph offices are proposed to be MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI opened in Andhra Pradesh during 1988-89. . VASA NT SATHE):a) Private Sector has been permitted to take up the manufacture (b) Post Offices: and sale of telecom. equipment after being type approved by the D.O.T. for installation No target as such was fixed for 1987-88 at subscriber premises such as tel~phone in view of the ban on creation of Posts. instruments and attachments thereto, Pay However, two new post offices have been phones. PABXs, teleprinters, data commu- recently sanctioned. nications equipment, fascimile equipment etc. Telegraph Offices: The target for open- in~ of telegraph offices for the year 1987-88 is II. (b) A Statement indicating the list of parties licenced to manufadure telecommu- (c) Post Offic9s: Does not arise in view nication equipment in private sector is given of the answer to (b) above. below:

STATEMENT

List of parties licenced to manufacture telecom

Irems in Private Sector

Name of th9 Party Name of the Annuallicencfld , product capacity

1 2 3

1. San Electronics (Pvt) Ltd. T.'ephona diall~"8 20,000 Nos. 155 Written AnswelS FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 158

1 2 3

2. S In Electronics (Pvt) Ltd. Telephone answering 20,000 Nos. machine

3. Microtel communications Telephone answering 10,000 line/unit Pvt. Ltd. and recording machine

4. Lucky Gold Star Electronics Telephone answering 10,000 line/unit Pvt. Ltd. and recorded machine

5. Lucky Gold Star EleCtronics Light weight head sets 50,000 Nos. Pvt. Ltd.

6. BPL systems and projects ltd. Power line protective 100 systems relay equipment

7. CEAR India multitronics Push button diallers 20,000 Nos. (Pvt.) Ltd.

8. Hindustan Brown Bovery Ltd. PICC equipment 400 Nos.

9. Arlem Breweries Pvt. Ltd. 128 Port EPABX 20,000 lines

10. Digital Telecom Ltd. -do-

11. Continental devices India Ld. -do-

12. Arvind Mills Ltd. -do- IC

13. Delta Hamlin Ltd. -do- li

14. Hindustan Brown Bavery Ltd. -do-

15. Oebikay information technology Ltd. -do-

16. Rajasthan telematics (Pvt.) Ltd. -do- N

17. Indchem Electronics Technology Ltd. ~o- u

18. Sujata Telecomm unications Ltd. -do- ft

19. Auto controls Pvt. Ltd. -do- a

20. Himachal interlink technologies Ltd. -do- •

21. 8uR' Brown India Pvt. Ud. -do- • 157 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Writt9n Answers 158

1 2 3

22. National Radio & Electronics Co. Ltd. -do- "

23. Kalindi Rail Nirman (Engg.) Ltd. -do- M

24. ~agnavision Electronics Ltd. EPABX/EPAX 50,000 lines

25. Artel Communications "Ltd. -do- li

26. Larsen & Toubro Ltd. -do- tI

27. Escorts Ltd. -do- AI

28. Blue Star Ltd. -do- Ii

29. Delton Cables Ltd. -do- M

30. Tata Telecom Ltd. -do-

31. Radiant Electronics Ltd. 128 port EPABX 20,000 lines

32. W.S. Insulators of India Ltd. -do- n

33. Genesis Telecommunications Ltd. -do- ••

34. Parimal polymers ltd. -do- li

35., Omni Finance & Industries Ltd. -do- ..

36. Shri Prakash Jain 12e Port EPABX II

37. Cosmo Communications Ltd. -do- li

38. United Telecom Pvt. Ltd. -do-

39. Super Phone India ltd. -do-

40. Essen Telecommunications -do- M Pvt. Ltd.

41. Sri Satyavrai Gupta Key Telephone 8,000 Nos.

42. HCL Ltd. EPABX System upto SO,OOO lines 100 lines

43. BPL Systems & Projects Ltd. Electronic PABX 50,000 lines 159 Written Answ.~ FE8RUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 160

1 2 3

44. Texton Telecom Pvt. Ltd. Ele. Push Button 2,00,000 Nos. Telephones

45. Remington Rand of India Ltd. -do- li

46. Crompton Greaves Ltd. -do- li

47. Pulsar Electronics Pvct. Ltd. -do- "

48. Set Telecommunications Pvt. Ltd. -do-

49. Bharat Telecom Ltd. -do-

50. ITAC India Manufacturing -do- li Co. Ltd.

51. Sri Gopal K. Kejriwal -do- "

52. Haryana Telecommnications Ltd. -do- li

53. The Priyaraja Eneterprises -do- 10,000 Nos.

54. Himachal Telephone Industries -do- 2,00,000 "·os. Pvt. Ltd.

55. Shri Jaisal Electronics & -do- Industries Ltd.

56. Suneel Communications Pvt. Ltd. -do-

57. Sri Sunil Kharia -do- 10,000 Nos.

58. Digicom Systems Pvt. Ltd. -do- 2,00,000 Nos.

59. United Telecom Pvt. ltd. -do- &! Type Diavok 1024 (Oeeadie) and type Diavok 1033 (OTMF) Series and Optionsl Accessories

60. Fusebase Electronics Ltd. Electronic Push 1,00,000 Nos. button telephones

81. Binaton. Electronics Ltd. -do- 2,00.000 Nos. 161 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answsrs 162

1 2 3

62. Oebakary Information Technology -do- 1,00,000' Nos. Ltd.

63. Unirex Moulds Pvt. Ltd, Ele. Push Button " .T elephones

64. ITP Telecoms Pvt. Ltd. -00- 2,00,000 Nos.

65. Sri K.K. Joshi -do- 75,000 Nos.

66. BPL Systems & Projects Ltd. Telephone 5,00,000 Nos. Instruments

67. Belwal Electronics Pvt. Ltd. Fac Simile Equip 2,000 Nos.

68. Hindustan Brown Bovery -do- H

69. Mandhari Electronics -do- li

70. JK Synthetics Pvt. Ltd. -do- ,.

71. Debikay Information Technology -do- H Ltd.

72. Computech Internatio.nal -do- "

73. Bee Electronic Machines -do- H Pvt. Ltd.

74. Faxom Systems Ltd. -do- "

75. Murphy 'India Ltd. -da-

76. Scan-tel Pvt. Ltd. -do- N

77. Cear India Multronics Pvt. Ltd. Pay Phones 30,000 Nos.

78. Srj Rajesh Kumar -do- 5,000 Nos. (S.S. Enterprises)

79. Sri Bipin Kumar Aggarwal -do- 30,000 Nos.

80. Omnitel Industries Ud. ~o- •

81. HClLtd. Electronic T.. eprint .... 5,000 Nos. 163 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 164

1 2 3

82. BPL Systems & Products Ltd. Electronic Four wire 500 Nos. Group select and EPABX

Growth Centres In No Industry Districts the work?

66. SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM: Win THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- state: RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT):«a) The combined efforts of ONGC and OIL have led a) whether Union Go~ernment have to an increase in crude production i" the issued guidelines for the grant of central country form 6.8 miUion tonnes of oil and assistance to State Governments to take up 1445 miHion cubic meters of as in 170-71 to tnfrastrudur,1 development in identified 30.50 million tonnes of oil and 9853 million growth centres in no-industry districts; and cubic meters of gas in 1986-87.

(b) the steps taken for the infrastructu- (b) and (c) . No Sir, Exploration work by ral development in Gaya district of Bihar? ONGC is continuing as per plan. One rig is. already working and another rig is planned to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be deployed. There is, however, some delay DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- in commencement of drilling by OIL; it is OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- expected that drilling would start, by deploy... TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM):a) Yes, ing one rig, in 1988. Sir. Shortfall In Edible 011 Production b) Gaya district has not been Identified as NO-Industry District .. 68. SHRI JITENDRA PRASADA;WlIl the Ministerof FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES Achievements made by ONGC and 011 be pleased to state:

67. SHAI VIRDHI CHANDEAJA1N:WiII (a) the shortfall expected in edible oils the· Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- in the country this year and the reasons for RALGAS be pleased to state: the shortage; and

, (a) the details of the achievements (b) ,what has been the contribution of made by the Oil and Natural Gas Commis- the technology mission on oilseeds towards sion and the Oil India Limited in the Country increasing produdion in edible oils? so far. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (b) whether it is a fad that progress of MINISTERY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP.. work being carried out by these units in PLIES (SHAI D. L. BAITHA): {a) Crop esti .. Rajasthan is vary slow; and ; mates forth. oil )'8ar 1987-88 are not avail- able so far ~ However, due to drought condi- (c) If so, the tim. by which the number tions in many of the oIlaaeds growing atates of modem rigs wli be inaH88d to expedl. of the Country t shortage in' the supply of 165 Written AnswelS PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Ana.,..· 168

indigenous edible oils may continue. Setting Up of MlnllMlcro Hyde' Unltatn Ker.la (b) The National Technology ~ission on oilseeds set up in May, 1986, has brought 70. ,PROF. P.J.KURIEN: Will the Minis- about much closer coordination between ter of ENERGY be pleased to state: various agencies dealing with production and processing of oilseeds. Considerable (a) the names of States which have enthusiasm has been created by Technol- sent proposals to set up mini/micro hydel ogy Mission amongst oilseed farmers on Units. account of demonstrations of high yi$lds with prospects of good profits, more ,efficient (b) whether any proposal has been distribution of inputs and attractive market received form Government of. Kerala in..this prices. connection;

(c) if so, the details thereof; and Opening of Branch Post Offlces)n and Pa,banl Districts of (d) the decision taken thereon? Maharashtra. THE MINITER OF STATE IN THE 69. SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: Will the DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Minister of COMMUN ICATIONS be pleased TRY OF ENERGY(SHRIMATI SUSHILA to state: ROHTAGI):(a). Proposal to set up mini/mi- cro hydel unit... (costing more than Rs. 5 crores) have been received form the States (a) whether new branch Post Offices of Himachal Pradesh, Jammu & Kashmir. were sanctioned in some States but were not Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh, Kerala, Bihar, opened due to ban on new recruitment. Orissa, Assam, Arunachal Pradesh, Mizoram and Nagaland and from the Union (b) the number of such branch post Territory of Andaman and Nicobar. offiqes pending to be opened in Nanded and Parbani districts of Maharashtra; and (b) to (d). A project for Anakkayam (2x400 KW) has been received from the (c) the time by which these will be Government of Kerala. Based on the com- opened? ments of the Central Water Commission hydel civil design aspects, the Project Au- thorities are collecting field data. The cost THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND estimates of the Project would thereafter be MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI firmed up for appraisal. VASANT SATHE):(a) Yes, Sir. Storage of Mol..... In Kalla,.. WId (b) There are II such branch post offices Dabra SUgar MIlia In Madhya Pradeah yet to be opened in and 7 in' Parbani district. 71. SHRI KAMMODILAL JATAV: Wli the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (c) These 18 branch post offices are likely to be opehed before the end of current (8) whether there is any facility for financial year (1987-88). storing molasses in KaUaras and Dabra 167 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 168

Sugar Mills in Madhya Pradesh and the permitting to do so? storage capacity in tonnes thereof: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN· THE (b) If not, the reasons therefor and the MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- arrangements proposed to be made for stor- PLIES (SHRt D.L.BAITHA):(a) government ing molasses; and of India allocated following quantity of Pal- molein oil to Delhi Administration: (c) the time by which such arrange- .ments will be made? (Onty_ in MTs)

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI February,1987 450 J. VENGAL RAO):(a) to (c). The required information is neither monitored nor is avail- March,1987 450 able in my Ministry. The matter essentially pertains to the Madhya Pradesh State Gov- April,1987 500 ernment. May,1987 500 Increase In selling price of Pal· moleln In Deihl June, 1987 500

72. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: July,1987 970 Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- PLIES be pleased to state: August,1987 1020

(a) the quantity of imported palmolein September,1987 395 oil supplied to the fair price shops, Super Bazar and Kendriya Bhandar monthly during October,1987 900 the last 12 months; November,1987 825 (b) the terms and conditions laid down for its sale to the public and whether these December,1987 1400 whether these were followed/adhered scru- pulously; January.1988 1400

(c) Hnot, what were its controlled selling prices during 1987, month-wise; Dur!ng February to June, 1ge7 Pal- molein was not sub-allocated to the nomi- (d) whether the Super Bazar and Ken- nated agencies as there was not much ,driya Bhandar increased during December, demand for this oil and the lifting was much 19~7 the selling price of Palmolein oil of the less than the allocation. From July onward stoCks held by them of old rates; and sub-allocation was made by Delhi Admini- stration to Super Bazar, Kendriya Bhandar (tt) If so, the details of the rules/orders and Fair Price shops as under: 169 Written AnsWffIS PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 170

(Onty. in MTs)

MonthlYear Sup9rBazar Kendriya Fair price Bhandar Shops

July, 1987 300 40 630

August. 1987 320 50 650

September, 1987 320 75 Nil

October, 1987 350 50 500

November, 1987 500 75 250

December; 1987 600- 100 700 .

January, 1988 600 100 700

(b) Delhi Administration have laid down No Industry Districts In Rajasthan the following terms al']d conditions for its sale to public; 73. SHRI MOHO. AYUB KHAN:WiII the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 1. Food card holder is entitled to 2 kg. of imported edible oils per (a) the number of 'No Industry districts fortnight per card. In case 2 kg . in Raiasthan; packs are not available, food card holder may draw one 5 kg. (b) whether Government have any pack in a month. plant to set up industries in these 'No Indus- try' districts; in near future; 2. It will be sold against the entries in the food cards. These condi- (c) the details of facilities provided by tions are b~ing followed. In case Government to set up industries in these INo any violation is noticed action is Industry' districts; and taken by Delhi Administration. (d) whether these facilities will be ex· (c) Does not arise. tended to these entrepreneurs also who set up industries in Jhunjhunu district? {dJ Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (e) According to Delhi Administration DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEl. .. price of Palmolein oil of the stocks held by OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Super Bazar and Kendriya 8handar at old TRY (SHRJ M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) to (c). rates was revised as it was not po.able to Jaisatmer, Sirehi. Barmer and Churu are the have duat pricing of the same commodity at four No Industry Districts' in the State of one time due to administrative reasons. Rajasthan. -171 Wrlttsn Answers FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers' 172 Industrialisation of an area is prima"iy - (8) if so, the d8f~ls thereof? . the responsibility of the State Government concerned. However, Central Government THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE supplements their efforts by providing prior- MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- ity in the grant of industrial licences, Central PLIES (SHRI D.LBAITHA): (a) and (b). The Investment Subsidy, Conces~k;»nal Finance, Food Corporation of India (Fel) is at present exemption form Income-tax etc. to entrepre- constructing a storage capacity of 40,000 neurs for setting up industri~s in these dis- tonnes at ~.arsi (District Hoshangabad), tricts. The entrepreneurs are eligible for Madhya Pradesh. The construction is ex- Central Subsidy @ 25% subject to a maxj- pected tod be completed by the end of mum of Rs 25 lakhs for setting up industries Seventh Plan. In these No Industry Districts. Assistance limited to 1f3 of the total cost of infrastructu- . (c) FCI has at present 149 godowns in ral development, subject to a maximum of Madhya Pradesh, owned and hired taken Rs 2 crores per No Industry District is also together. provided for development of infrastructural . facilities in identified growth centres in these (d) and (e). As on 1.1.1988, FCI had No Industry Districts. taken on hire from private parties 34 godowns in Madhya Pradesh with a total (d) Jhunjhunu district is eligible for 100/0 capacity of about 2.93 lakh tonnes. central subsidy subject to a maximum of Rs 1(l lakhs and other facilities stated above except Central Assls1ance for Development F .C.1. Centres for Procurement of

of Infrastructural, facilities which is . restricted Foodgralns to No, Industry Districts. 75. SHRI MUR~IDHAR MANE: Will the Construction of FCI Godowns In Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be Madhya Pradesh pleased to state:

74. SHRI AZIZ QURESHI: Will the (a) the number of centres opened by the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be Food Corporation of India (FCI) all over the pleased to state: country during the year 1987 for procuring foocigrains, State-wise; and (a) whether there is any proposal to construct new godowns by the Food Corpo- (b) the quantity of foodgrains procured ration of India in Madhya Pradesh; till 31 st December, 1987?

(b) if so, the details thereof? THE DEPUTY MINISTER ,IN THE (c) how many godowns or warehouses MINISTRY OF FOOD AND' CIVIL SUP- under the Food Corporation of India exist in PLIES (SHAI D.L.BAITHA): (a) A statement Madhya Pradesh at present; is given below:

(d) whether there are any private par- (b) The wheat, rice and coarse grains ties with whom the F.e.l. has entered into procured during the 198788 rabi and.kharif some agreement and using their godowns; seasons, upto 31.12.1987, is as under:- and 173 Written An• .,. PHALGUNA ... 1'809, (&AKA ) ·,w,m." An.wer. 17.' (in lakh tonnes) 1 2 Commodity . Quantity Rice (Including paddy 1 2 in terms of rice) 38.22

Wheat 78.54 Coarse grains 0.72

STATEMENT

Number of, Centres opened by the FC! allover the country during the year 1987 for procuring foodgrains, State wise.

Name of the State Kharif centres Rabi centr9s

during 1987-88 during 1987-88 Paddy) 1987-88 (wheat) 1987-88

Punjab 422 475

Haryana 81 103

Uttar Pradesh 71 300

Delhi 1 3

Rajasthan 37

Andhra Pradesh 131

Madhya pradesh 49 1S@ 361 West Bengal 1629

Pondicherrv 2

Arunachal Pradesh 8

Or;ssa 35

2429 1294

@ In Madhya Pradesh. 15 centres operated ijirectly by Fel and 361 through coop8f. tives.

Note: ... CoarsegraJns are not procured by the Fel. 175 Written AnsMus FEBRUARV 23, 1988 Written Answers 178 Subsidy on Postal Articles In Hilly and (a) the number of plants fun¢ioning Backward Areas under the Indian petrochemicals Corpora- tion Limited (IPCL) as on 1.1.1988 giving 76. DR. DATTA SAMANT: Will the total output of these plants, plant-wise dur- Minister of COMMU N ICATIONS be pleased ing the period April-December. 1987 and to state: how it compares with the figures pertaining to the corresponding period of the previous (a) whether Government are consider· year, indicating profit or loss accrued be- ing to reduce the subsidy on some of the cause of increase/shortfall in the production postal articles in hilly and backward areas; of these products; and

(b) how much subsidy Government has (b) whether Government are consider· borne in the years 1985-86 and 19.86-87; ing setting up of some more plants underthe and Indian Petro·chemicals corporation Limited and if so,' the details thereof? (c) the reasons for reducing the sub- sidy? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J.VENGALA RAO): (a) As on 1.1.1988, THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND there are 13 plants functioning under Indian MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Petrochemicals Corporation Limited (IPCl) VASANT SATHE): (a) Postal rates are fixed at Baroda. The plant wise production during uniformly for the country as a' whole and no April, 1987 to December, 1987 as compared distinction is made on geographical or social to the corresponding period 1986 and also considerations. the profit which accrued as a result of in- creased production, is indicated in the state- (b) and (c). Do not arise in view of reply ment below:- to (a) above. (b) In addition to expansion of capaci- Plants Functioning Under Indian Petro- ties of certain plants at Baroda, IPel is chemicals Corporation Limited setting up a mega project viz. MGCC act Nagothene in Maharashtra at an approved 77. SHRI VISHNU MODI: Will the Min- cost of Rs. 1167 crores for manufacture of ister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: various petrochemicals raw materials.

STATEMENT

(figures in Metric Tonnes)

S. No. Nanle of the Plant and Product Actual Production

April-Dec. 1987 April-Dec. -88

1 2 3 4

1 AROMATICS PLANT

Ortho and Mixed Xytene. 15,685 15,512 Dimethyl Terephthalat. 21,223 20,975 171 WrltMn Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 178

1 2 3 4

2. OLEFINS PLANT

Denzene 20,595 19.846

3. DOWNSTREAM UNITS

Low Density Polyethylene 57,930 56,647

Polypropylene 18,842 ' 16,258

Polybutadiene Rubber 10,125 11,235

Ethylene Glycol 7,835 8,921

Ethylene Oxide 5,409 3.634

Linear Alkyl Benzene 20,624 23,110

Acrylonitrile 18.031 16,835

Acrylic Fibre 9,010 8,867

Acrylates 1.246 1,424

Polyvinyl Chloride 29,313 27,084

Petroleum Resins 2.454 1,302

TOTAL 2,38,322 2,31,650

NOTE: Production of Intermediate products (a) whether the telephones under the which are used for captive consumption are Phaphamau T~iephone Exchange, coming not included. within the Allahabad Nagar Mahapalika lim- its, always remain out of order; The profit accrued because of the increase in production mentioned above is Rs. 7.0 crores. (b) whether it is proposed to convert the aforesaid exchange into electronic ex- WorkIng of Te"ephones under Phapha- change with a view to solve the difficulties mau Telephone Exchan!J9 faced by the subscribers; and

79., SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: Will the (c) jf so. the number of complaints Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased received In this connection so far and tho to sf::ate: tima by which this probiAm will be so'vl?d? , FEBRU~Y2S.1988 WrlIten Answers 180 TH\E MI,NISTER OF ENERGY AND Consumption of CoallLlgnH. MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANi SATEH): (a) No, Sir. telephone 81. SHRI HAFIZ MOHO SIDDIQ : Will working from Phaphamau Telephone Ex-, the Minister of ENE~GV be pleased to state: change coming within Allahabad Nagar Mahapallka limits. do not alWays remain out (a) what was the comsumption of coal of order. lignite at the end of Sixth Five Year Plan and how much it was short against the targeted one; (b) No Sir, There is no such proposal at present. (b) the con.sumption of coalltlgnite at the end of the third year of the Seventh Five (c) There is no complaint pending at Year Plan and how much it is short of the present about-faulty telephones at Phapha- targeted one; mau. (c) the reasons for not achieving the targets and the steps taken to achieve the Joint 011 exploration by India and same; and Australia (d) the target of production of coaV 80. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL: Will lignite during the Seventh Plan. year wise the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- and how much has been achieved? RAL GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether Government have'a pro- DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- posal to undertake a joint off-shore oil explo- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K.JAFFAR ration with Australia; SHARIEF): (a) The estimated demand of coal and lignite in the terminal year of the (b) if so. whether the exploration -'hark Sixth Five Year Plan (1984-85) and actual would be undertaken in that country or in offtake are .given below:- India; and (in million tonnes) (c) the name of the oil company pro- posed to be enroi1ed in the oil exploration Estimate Actual off work? Demand take

Raw Coal 155.70 139.58 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- Middlings 5.50 3.61 RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT):(a) to (c) . At present there is no proposal to undertake Lignite 6.50 7.11 any joint off-shore oil exploration with Aus- (Neyveti)

tralia. However t Government and ONGC have signed a contract with BHP Petroleum (b) The figures of estimated demand of (India) Inc, a subsidiary of BHP Petroleum coal during 1987-88, the third year of the Pvt Ltd., Australia, for exploration and ex- S .. 'venth Five Year Plan, as asses~8d by the pIoIation of Petroleum in an off-shora block Fia.1ning Commissio. 0, and expected offtake KK-OS-Viin Karata Konken basin. ~ during this year are given below: 181 Written Answers PHAL~UNA 4, 1909 (SAKA )

(In mill~n tonnes) (c) The reasons for rower offtake com- pared to the demand projection is lower Estimated Expect9ci requirement i~ some sectors than wItS an- demand omaks ticipated because of slower growth.

Raw coal 192.05 185.80 (d) The target and actual production of Lignite' 9.15 9.15 coal and lignite during the first three years of (Neyveli) the Seventh Plan, are given below:- . "

(in million tonnes)

1985-86 1986-87 1987-88

Target Actual Target Actual Target Actual upto Jan,1988

Coal 154.50 154.20 166.80 16.5.79 183.50 142.87

Lignite 6.72 7.13 7.40 8.52" 9.15 7.99

Self-employment Schema for Educated cal targets in terms of number of beneficiar- Unemployed In West Bengal ies and do not allot funds to any particular State to implement the scheme. The capital 82. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: Will the . subsidy to the extant of 25% on each loan Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: contracted is paid out· of Central budget routed through Reserve Bank of India. (a) the targets fixed for 1986-87 and However results achieved in West Bengal 1987-88 under the self-employment beginning from 1985-86 to 1987-88 are 8S scheme for educated unemployed in West under:- Bengal; and (b) the amount earmarked during 1985- Year Target No. of cases 86 and 1986-87 and 1987-88 forthe scheme sanctioned by in the State and the results achieved? banks

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1985-86 24300 21885 DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- 1986-87 24300 20468 TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (8) The target fixed for 1986-87 under SEEUY 1987-88 12150 1140 Scheme was 24300 persons. During 1987- (as on 31.1.1988)· 88, an adhoc target of 12150 persons has been fixed for West Bengal. VI.,t of Soviet Delegation

(b) Under the scheme the Central • 83. SHRt H.N. NAHJE GOWDA: Wilt Government aUocates to States only phys; .. the MInW.r cI INDUSTRY be pleaMd to 183 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 184 stata: possible is being provided to Karals from the Central stations in the Southern Region. In (a) whether a Soviet delegation of addition, various measures _being taken to . eminent Soviet economist visited India in increase the availability of power include December, 1987; expeditious commiSSioning of new capacity, • reduction of Transmission and Distribution (b) if so, the gist of ta.lks during the losses, implementation of demand manage- discussion; ment and Energy Conservation measures.

(c) whether any proposal has been Extra Departmental Employea81n accepted by Government; and Kerala

(d) if so, the details thereof? 85. SHIR K. MOHANDAS: Will the Minister of COMMUN ICATIONS be pleased THE MINISTJ=R OF INDUSTRY (SHAI to state: J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) the total number of Extra Depart- (b) The discussions covered generally mental Employees in Kerala; and international economic relations as well as restructuring of the Soviet Economy. (b) the number of Extra Departmental employees who are likely to be regularised (c) and (d). There was no proposal for by the end of 1988? acceptance by Government on the basis of talks between the two del~gations. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Power Production In Karals VASANT SATHE): (a) 14,643.

84. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: Will the (b) Extra Departmental employees are Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: employed on part-time basis for fixed hours of work on consideration of monthly allow- (a) the potential added to power pro- ance. Their services are not regularised as in duction in Kerala during the last three years; case of regular Government servants. and However, they are eligible for absorption in Group 'D'/po~tmen and Mailguards posts by (b) the details of the measures being way of examination to the extent of availabil- . taken to meet the power shortage in the ity of vacancies as per recruitment rules. State? There is no other way of regularisation of ED employees. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- T8Y OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA Raw Material for Leather Industry ROHTAGI): (a) Additional power generating capacity aggregating 465 MW has been 86. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will the added in Kerala during the perio0 1984-85 to Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 1986-87. (a) whether Government have under- (b) In order to mitigate the power short- taken the survey of raw material availability age In the State, assistance to the extent for the leather industry; 185 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 186

(b) if so, the quantum of hides from THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE .Fatt1a and buffalo and skins from goat and DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- sheep produced during the last two years; OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRt M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (c) ,the steps being taken by Govern- (b). ACe Babcock Ltd., a company in the ment to save wastage of the hides and skins private sector engaged in the manufacture of dead animals; and of boilers for the power sector, filed a petition before the Bombay High Court in October, (d) the steps taken by Government for 1986 for winding up of the affairs of the raw material development programmes for company. The two units of the company in leather industry? West Bengal and Karnataka are lyinO closed since then. lOBI had prepared a package for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the rehabilitation of the company. On exami- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- nation, this was found to be non-bankable. OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- lOBI has submitted 3 revised packageforthe TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) A revival of the company recently. No final ,Survey on Availability of Raw Hides & Skins decision has bsen taken on the packag~. for the Leather Industry was carried out in The company has also made a reference to 1987. the Board of Industrial and Financial Recon- struction under the provisions of Section 15 (b) An aggregate quantity of 21.7 mil- (1) of the Sick Industrial Companies (Special lion cattle hides, 15.7 million buffalo hides, Provision) Act, 1985. 75.4 million goat skins and 31.4 million sheep skins were produced in 1986 in the country. The corresponding figures for the Sweet Water Lake Discovered In Ganga previous year were not collected. Basin by ONGC

(c) and (d). The survey report has made 88. SHRILAKSHMAN MALLICK: Will wide-ranging recommendations for aug- the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NAru- menting the availability of raw material for RAL GAS be pleased to state: the leather industry which have been tft'ought to the notice of the various State and (a) whether it is a fact that while explor· Central Agencies. ing for oil in the foothills of Himalayas, the Oil and Natural Gas Commission has discov- ered an under ground sweet water lake in the Reopening of ACe Babcock Ltd., Ganga basin; and Karnataka and West Bengal (b) if so, the details thereof? 87. SHR'I PURNA CHANDRA MALIK: Wilt the Minister of Industry be pleased to ' state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- (a) wh~ther Government, have taken RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUlT): (a) and ~ steps to re-open the ACe Babcock Ltd. (b). Drillstem testing end study of electrologs which has two units at Shahbad in Karnataka in a"· few wells drilled by ONGC in Ganga and Ourgapur in West Bengal; and basin indicated· presence of sweet water tn the underground sediments at a depth rang- (b) if 80. the details thereof? ing from 600 to 2600 metr•. 187 Written Answe,. FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 188 New E~ronlc Private Automatic 1. Renovation of furnaces & boilers. Branch Exchang.. In Deihl 2. Incorporation of microprocessor 89. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: based controls for heavy energy Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be consuming equipment. pleased to state: 3. Utilisation of wasteheat. whether some new Electronic Pri- ,vata Automatic Branch Exchanges have 4. Use of non-conventional sources of bean commissioned in the Union Territory of energy, such as, solar energy. ~elhJ in 1987-88; 5. Substitution of furnace oil by Pro- (b) ff so, the details of their capacity; ducer Gas.

(c) how many new Automatic Branch 6. Replacement of refractory lining. Exchanges ara proposed to be commis- sioned in Delhi in 1988-89; and 7. Process modification.

(d) the details thereof?' Development of combined Cycle system of Power Generation by BHEL THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS' (SHRI 91. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: VASANT SATHE): (a) to (d). The informa- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to tion is being collected and will be laid on the state: Table of the House. (a) whether the Bharat Heavy Electri- cats Limited has been working on the devel- Energy conservation measur•• by opment of Combined Cycle System of power Bharat Heavy Electrical. Ltd. generation which is likely to be more efficient than the Conventional large sized power 90. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: plants; Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) if so, the success achieved by the BHEL in this regard; and (a) whether the Bharat Heavy Electri- cals Ltd. (BHEL) ha~ taken steps during (c) the details thereof? 198&-87 for the conservation of energy; THE MINISTER OF fNDUSmV (SHRI (b) H so, the specific energy conserva- J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. tion measures taken by the Bharat Heavy Elactricals Ltd. during above year; and (b) and (c). For developing combined cycle power generation systems based on (c) the details thereof? Coal as fuel. a 6 -MW Coal Gas basad Combined CyCle Demonstration Plant haS THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI been set up at TIiuchirapalii Unit of BHEL. J. VENGAL RAO): <8> to (c). During 1986-87 Trial runs on this are in progress. In addition. BHEL has taken the following measures to BHEL has the capability to engineer and conMI'V8 energy: supply. commercial seala combined cycle 189 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (&AKA) Wrilten ~ 190 plants based on natural gas and oil as fuels. open more avenues for the advertisers; and

Retail Margin for Ethical and non- (c) if -so, the details thereof? Ethical Drugs THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 92. DR. B.L. SHAILESH: Will the Min- MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI ister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: VASA NT SETHE): (a) The revenue earned during Past three year from advertisements (a) whether the Kelkar Committee's on Postal Stationery is Rs. 85,62.750/- proposal to introduce fee for handling pre- scriptions by retail chemists has created a . (b) No, Sir. .stalemate in implementing the O·lJg price Control Order, 1987; (c) Does not arise.

(b) if so, what is the retail margin for Payment of Interim Relief to Public ethical drugs and non-ethical drugs being Sector Employ••• asked for by the retail chem ists against that recommended by the Kelkar Committee; 94. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Will and the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (c) the measures Government propose to sort out the matter? (a) whether payment of interim relief has been sancti(>ned for the employees of THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI the Central Government Public Sector J. VENGAl RAO): (a) to (c). The Committee Undertakings; set up by the Government under the Chair- manship of Chairman, ·Bureau of Industrial (b) If so, whether Public Sector Under- Costs and Prices has recorn mended that the takings in the Eastern Region have been qualified pharmacists/chemists shall be al- excluded for the purpose of interim relief; . lowed to charge a professional fee towards and the .services for scrutinising prescription and dispensing drugs in the proper form. The (c) "so, the reasons therefor? recommendation of the Committee is under consideration of the Government. niE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI earnings of Department of Posts from J. VENGAL RAO): (8) Government has Advertisement sanctioned interim relief to workers in public sector enterprises on Industrial DA pattem 93. SHRI SHANTRAM NAIK: Will the satisfying certain conditions. Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be please to state: (a) and (c): Public Sector Undertakings in Eastern Region as such have not bean (a) the revenue earned by the Depart- excluded for the Purpose of interim relief. AI ment of Posts from advertisements in the Under-takings in Sectors where commob last three year~ on items of Postal stationery wage settlements are finalised both for prJ.. or otherwise; vate &eCtor and public sector employ~ alone have been excluded forth. purposeGf (b) W8lher the Department Proposes to interim relief. 191 Written Answsrs FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 192

Transfer of Patrol pumps by Changing expeditious and effective steps to improve' Partners the communication; and

95. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Will (c) when the telephone communica- the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- tions is expected to improve? RAL GAS be pleased to state: THE, MINISTER OF ENERGY AND (a) whether the Indian Oil Corporation MINISTER OF COMMUNICATION (SHRI has a set of rules and procedure for grant of VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir. petrol pump dealership; (b) Question does not arise in view of (b) if so, whether instances have oc- reply at (a) above. curred when transfers have taken place surreptitiously by changing partners; and (c) Telephone service is satisfactory at present. It is expected to improve further by (c) if so, the steps taken to stop such the end of 7th Plan when the manual tele- malpractices? phone exchange at Kudal, District Head- quarter of will get auto- THE MINSTER OF STATE OF THE matised. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAMA DUTT): (a) Yes, Sir; ONGC Tender for Woollen Cloth

(b) A few cases have come to the notice 97. SHRI M.V. CHANDRASHEKHARA of the Company where some changes in the MURTHY: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM existing approved set-up had taken place AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: without the prior approved set-up had taken place without the prior approval of the (a) whether it is a fact that the Oil and Company. Natural Gas Commi3sion, Dehradun has receivad samples and prices against its (c) Such cases are got investigated and tender call from the various manufacturing are dealt with on merits and in accordance units 'of woollen cloth; and with the policy guidelines. (b) if so, when the tender is likely to be Telephone Service aetween Ratnaglrl finalised? and Sindhudrug Districts of Maharash· THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE tra MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAMADUTT): (a) ONGC 96. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE:WiII Dehradun has not invited any tenders for the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be supply of woollen cloth. pleased to state: (b) D09s not arise. (a)'whether it is a fact that for yeaw:s the residents of and Sindhudurg dis- Issue of Commemorative Postal tricts of the backward region of Stamps Maharashtra have been repeatedly com- plaining about the most unsatisfactory tele- 98. SHRI MUlLAPPALlY RAMA- phone communication between the two dis- CHANDRAN: '. ,·tricts and the outside regions; SHRI SY"ED SHAHABUODIN:

(b) If so. the .....".. for _.tIIIdng \¥II the Min.... t:i COMMUNICATIONS be 193 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4. 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 194 pleased to state: and charging higher rate of interest from the State; and (a) the numberof special commemora.. tive postage stamps issued in 1987 and the (b) whether the interest" rates are being number intended to be issued in 1988; and increased continuously and if so, the rea- sons for not helping the backward States like Madhya Pradesh by reducing the rate of (b) the number of proposals for the I issue of various commemorative stamps interest? pending consideration by the Government? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND DEPTI. OF POWER IN THE MINISTRYOF MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA VASANT SATHE): (a) 56 commemorative/ ROHATGI): (a) and (b). The Rural Electrifi .. special postage stamps had been issued in cation Corporation has been recording in .. 1987 and 60 stamps are tentatively pro- creasing profits in the past 3 years. The posed to be issued in 1988. Corporation obtains loans from the govern.. ment of India and through Market Borrow- (b) 8 proposals for issue of commemo- ings, and disburses the same at a slightly rative/special postage stamps are pending higher rate of interest to cover the service consideration by the Government. charges as well as difference due to the loans given at concessional rate of interest for Harijan Bastis. Rural Electric Coopera- Profits of Rural Electrification Corpora- tive Schemes etc. The profits of the Corpo- tion ration are being reinvested in rural electrHi.. cation programmeS taken up in the country. 99. SHRI KEYUR SHUSHAN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: The rates of interest charged on REO's loans for the past 3 years, for various (a) whether the Rural Electrification schemes are given in the statement below. Corporation, New Delhi, is increasing its The rates of interest charged by REC are the profits every year by borrowing money from same for all the States including Madhya other organisations at a lower rate of interest Pradesh.

STATEMENT

Details of interest ratss charged by REC on loan advanced to the SEBs/Stats Govt.IRE Coop. Societies for the last 3 years

Sr. Category Period of Loan Rates of Intsr9st No. of scheme (percentage per.. annum)

w.e.f. w.e.f. w.e.f. 1.6.85 1.8.86 1.6.97

1 2 3 4 5 6

1. (a) Ordinary Cooperatives (OC) 1.to 5 yr. 5.25 5 5 195 Written Answers . FEBRUARY 23,1988 Written Answers 196

1 2 3 4 5 6

6t010yr. 6.25 11.50 7.25 11 to 15 yr. 7.25 11.50 8.25 16 to 20 yr. 8.25 11.50 9.25 21 to 25 yr. 9.25 10.25 26 to 30 yr. 10.25 11.50 11.25 Rebate 0.25

(b) Pre-construction 5 5 5 loan (pel)

(c) Special Development Reserve (SDR) 1 to 2 yr. 3.25 5 5 3 to 5 yr. 5.25 11.50 5 6t015yr. 6.25 11.50 5 Rebate 0.25

2. Special Project Agriculture (SPA·I) 1 to 8 yr. 10.00 11.50 11.00 (SPA) (SPA-II) 1 to 14yr. 10.00 11.50 11.00

3. Special Loan (Transformer) 9.00 11.50 11.00 (Others) 4. Special Project Rebate 0.25 10.00 Industries (SPI) SPI-I 1 to 8 yr. 10.25 11.50 11.00 SPI-II 1 to 14 yr 10.25 11.50 11.00 Rebate 0.5

5. Harijan Bastis (HB) 1 to 15 yr. 6.00 7.00 7.00 Rebate 0.25

6. Revised Minimum Needs Programme (RMNP) 1 to 5 yr. 7.50 9.20 9.70 6 to 10 yr. 7.50 9.20 9.70 11 to 15 yr. 8.00 9.20 9.70 16 to 20 yr. 8.00 9.20 9.70 21 to 25 yr. 8.75 9.20 9.70 26 to 30 yr. 8.75 9.20 9.70 Rebate 0.25 t 197 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4.1909 (SAKA) Wrinen Answers 198

1 2 3 4 5 6

7. Schemes for Unelectrified Areas (08)

i) Infrastructure 1-5 8.25 11.50 10.50 ii) Load Development 1-5 9.25 11.50 10.50 6-10 10.25 11.50 10.50 11-15 11.00 11.50 10.50 16-20 11.00 11.50 10.50 Rebate 0.25

8. Schemes for Intensive 1-5 9.25 11.50 11.00 Electrification(DA) 6-10 10.25 11.50 11.00 11.15 10-25 11.50 11.00 Rebate 0.25

9. Schemes for Specially Underdeveloped area (SU) 1-7 i) Infrastrcture 8.25 11.50 10.1>0 ii) Load Developed 7.25 11.50 10.00 8-15 9.25 11.50 10.00 Rebate 0.25

10. Conservation of Energy in Pumpsets (CEP) 5.005.00 5.00

11. Conservation of Energy in Network (CEN) 1.. 2 9.7511.50 11.50 Rebate 0.25

Inventory Loan: 12.0014.25 14.25 9.00£11.50£11.5Q@

1.6.85 £ for North Eastern state & Northern Hill States of Jammu & Kashmir and Himachal Pradesh.

1.6.86 (1) £ for North Eastern State & Northern Hill States J&K and H.P.

(2) There is no rebate for prompt payment of interest and principal under any category.

1.6.87 @ (1) same as on 1.6.86 given above.

(2) same 'as on 1.6.86 given above. 199 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23. 1988 . Written Answers 200 Approval to Thermal Power Generation about .21.8% and an energy shortage of Units of Madhya Pradesh about 1.~/0 at the end of the Eight Plan pariod. Power projects are identified for 100. SHAI KEYUR BHUSHAN:Willthe execution keeping in view optimal utilisation Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: of the existing capacity. availability of funds, grid configuration etc. (a) whether Government of Madhya Pradesh has submitted various project re- Import of Sugar ports for setting up new thermal power gen- eration units in the State; 101. SHAI AMARSINH AATHAWA: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- (b) whether due to delay in the implem- PLIES be pleased to state: entation of Bodhghat and Narmada Sagar Projects, Madhya Pradesh will become (a) the rate at which sugar is being power deficit State after the year 1990-91; imported and what is its selling price in each and State;

. (c) if so, whether Union Government (b) whether.it is a fact that the price of propose to approve some other thermal sugar in foreign countries has. increased; power project in lieu of Indira Sarovar and and Bodhghat power project to avert the situ- ation of power shortage? (c) if so, Government's policy to import sugar during the year 1988-89? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- THE DEUPTY MINISTER IN THE TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). The Madhya Pradesh PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a), (b) and (c). ElectriCity Board (MPEB) have forwarded. The rate at which sugar is being imported by project reports in respect of the Bandhav, the State Trading Corporation varies from Mand and Pench thermal Power stations, time to time. Government's policy relating to the Sanjay Gandhi thermal power station quantum and schedule of import of sugar is extension and a gas turbine station near decided after considering domestic availa- Gwalior. These schemes are in various bility. demand and other rels,:,ant factors. stages of examination in the Central Elec- Thore are reports of some rise in the price of tricity Authority (CEA). in consultation with sugar in the International market from No- other appraising agencies, and could be vember, 1987. considered for techno-economic clearance after all inputs such as coal linkage. availa- The imported sugar is released to State bility of gas. etc. have been tied up and Governments by the food Corporation of necessary clearances, including those from India at a delivery price of Rs. 540/-per . the environmental angle, have been ob- quintal and the State Governments are re- tained. quired to s~lI· the same through controlled channels at a price not exceeding Rs. 6/-per The Narmada Sagar and Sardar Sa- kilogram. rovar hydro projects have been cleared from the environmental and forestry angles. As Visit of Iranian Delegation per the Thirteenth Power Survey, Madhya Pradesh may have a peaking shortage of 102. SHRI R.M. BHOVE: Will the Min- 201 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 202·

ister OF INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (c) the reaction of Government thereto?

(a) whether an Iranian Delegation re- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI cently visited India; and J. VENGALA AAO): (a) A chemical sub- stance whose chemical structure is exclu- (b) if so, the details regarding the Indo- sively responsible for building up of the Iranian talks on industrial co-operation? molecule of a drug is termed as Drug Inter- mediate. . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- (b) and (c). The custom duty on drug OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- intermediates varies from zero to 141 %. It TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): .

Customs Duty on Import of Drug (d) the steps taken in this regard? Intermed iates THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 103. DR. KRUPASINDHU SHOI: Will MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAr the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to VASANT SATHE): (a) Eleven towns in state: Orissa have been provided with STD facility between them and Bhubaneswar, the State (a) the definition of drug intermediate; capital. Other State capitals are afso acces- sible on sro from these towns as well as (b) the difference of custom duty on Bhubaneswar, the State capital. One more import of drug intermediates vis-a-vis final town viz. Chatrapur is having sro facility product; and only with (Ganjam). 203 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23.1988 Written Answers 204

(b) Yes. Sir. forestry, Wood processing, Chemicals. Drugs & Pharmaceuticals. Pulp & Paper, (c) sro facility Is proposed to be pro- etc. were identified. vided to . , Chatrapur (Distt. Ganjam). and during 1988- Production and Demand of 011 89. 106. CH. RAM PARKASH: Will the (d) Thetransmission media requiredfor Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL linking Angul, Bhadrak, Chatrapur (Distt. GAS be pie cased to state: Ganjam), Jeypore and Koraput with Trunk Automatic Exchange at and auto- (a) whether in view of the current rate of matisation of local telephone exchange at oil production and growing demand, the Jeypore have been planned. cC?untry will face difficult situation by the end of the Seventh Plan; and Industrial ties with Sweden (b) if so, the steps being taken or 105. DR. KRUPASlNDHU BHOt: Win proposed to be taken to meet the situation? the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF -PETROLEUM AND NATU- (a) whether Government have a pro- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTTA): (a) The posal to expand industrial ties with Sweden; production of crude oil during the terminal year of 7th plan would be 34.51 million (b) if so, whether official level talk has tonnes as against the projected product been started to expand Indo-Swedish ties; consumption of 53.52 million tonnes. In and order to meet the growing demand for petro- leum products in the country, the indigenous (c) the steps taken or proposed to be availability of these products is being and will taken by both the countries in the above continue to be augmented by suitable im- direction? ports.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) Besides efforts towards demand DEPARTMENT OFINDUSTRIAL DEVEL- management and conservation of petro- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- leum products, following steps have been TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). taken to increase crude production:- Government of India welcomes cooperation In the industrial sector with other friendly countries within the parameters of its policy (i) Intensification of explorationl and priorities. which may eventually lead to enhanced production. An Indo-Swedish Joint Comm ission for Economic, Industrial Technical and Scien- (ii) Intensification of work-over tific Co-operation has been set up for ex· operations. panding bilateral co-operation between the two countries. The last session of this Joint (iii) Use of enhanced oil recovery Commission was held in October 1987 techniques and wherein areas for mutual co-apendiDn In T8lecommunication, Elecbonlc., RaHway_, (iv) Induction of advance technol· Machine Toole, Automotive components, ogy. 205 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 208

Release of Wheat, Sugar, Kerosene ~nd been received. However, during th~ recent Edible 011 to Rajasthan for P~D.S. inspections/raids conduded by the Oil Companies and Delhi Weights and Meas .. 107. SHRI MOHO. AYU8 KHAN: Will ures Department, a few petrol pumps were the ~inister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES found giving short delivery, and necessary be pleased to state the quota of wheat, action has been taken in these cases. sugar, kerosene oil and edible oil released to Rajasthan for distribution through public Telephone Connection In Deihl distribution system so far? 109. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- pleased to state: PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA):'Details of allo- cations made to Rajasthan during the calen- (a) whether Government propose to der year 1987 are as under:- provide upto the end of 1988 telephone connections to all those who are wait·listed (In MTs) in Delhi;

Wheat 8,00,000 (b) if not, whetherGovernment propose to make a date line when all desirous per- Edible Oil 25,800 sons will be provided with telephone con- nection in Delhi; and Levy Sugar 206.978 (c) if so, the details thereof? Kerosene 222,368 THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND Malpractices by petrol Pumps In Deihl MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASA NT SATHE): (a) No, Sir. 108. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (b) and (c). On an average waiting list NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: upto September, 1986 is expected to be cleared by the end of 7th Plan. The remain· (a) whether Government are aware that ing demands are expected to be cleared petrol pumps in Delhi, particularly in trans- thereafter progressively. Yamuna area, are measuring less petrol to consumers after the recent price hike in Power Production Through Fuel Cell petrol; and based on Natural Gas ETC

(b) if so, whether Government have 110. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: Will the conducted any enquiry into the matter and Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: the results thereof? (a) whether power production through THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE fuel cell based on natural gas, naptha and MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & NATURAL methanol has been examined by Govern- GAS (SHRI ~RAHMA DUTT): (a) and (b). ment; if so, the results thereof; No report regarding short measurement of petrol by petrol pumps in Delhi, subsequent (b) whether the electric "POW« to be to the recent increase in price of petrol, has produced with fuel cell process wit be .. 207 Written Answers , FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 208

nomical; as compared to the electricity pro- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ,ductfon by thermal power projeds~ hydro- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- , -electric power projects and nuclear power TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA projects; and ROHTAGI): (a) No, Sir.

(c) what will be the effect .of fuel cell (b) and Xc). The proposal to implement power production on the environment and the projed in the Central Sector, with atmospheric pollution? external assistance, is under consideration, in consultation with the Government of West THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Bengal. This arrangement will give the ad- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- vantage of utilisation of external assistance. TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) Research & Development Utilisation of Natural Gas work is under way in Bharat Heavy Electri- cals Ltd. to develop fuel cells for large scale 112. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: Will the power generation. The Department of Non- Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL Conventional Energy Sources has also GAS be pleased to state:. sponsored some R&D projects on develop- ment of experimental fuel cells using biogas. (a) whether the possiblity of utilising natural gas after converting into methanol as (b) and (c). According to preliminary fuel has been examined; if so, the results studies made in U.S.A., the economics of the thereof; and fuel cell power plant compare quite favoura- bly with conventional thermal pow'er stations (b) whetherthe feasibility of surplus gas and it is also stated to be pollution free. being supplied for household use through pipes has been examined and if so, the results thereof? Bakreswar Thermal Power Project THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 111. SHRI' Y.S. MAHAJAN: MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) Natu· ral gas has been committed for the purpose Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to of production of Methanol. Field trials for state: replacement of high speed diesel by metha- nol are being conducted. (a) whether the 630 MW Bakreswar Thermal Power Project is proposed to be set (b) 'Natural, gas is being supplied for up jointly by a subsidiary of the National domestic use through pipeline in Baroda Thermal Power Corporation and an agency (Gujarat and Duliajan (Assam). Comm~­ of West ljengal State Government; ments of gas forthis purpose have also been made in other cities like Bombay, Bharuch, (b) the advantages in setting up the Surat, Ankleshwar and Agartala. proposed thermal power project as a joint ... t "F.l: and Environmental Effect of Industrialisa- tion Of Mangalor. Areas (c) how the project is to be financed and what will be the arrangements for the control 113. SHRI Y.S. MAHAlAH: WI" the and functioning of the joint ventur.? Minister of PETROlEUM & NATURAL GAS 209 'Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 210

be pleased to state: country,

(8) whether Govern~ent have taken (b) the assistance 'given to Uttar into account the environmental aspects Pradesh in the form of subsidy to boost the such as deforestation and pollution which cultivation of 011 seeds; and will be caused by the proposed industrialisa- tion of Mangalore on account of Mangalore (c) whether the production of edible oil refinery and other downstream industries has increaSed this year as compared to that over the next 15 years; in the last year?

(b) what safeguards have been thought THE DEPUTY 'MINISTER IN THE of to avoid ill-effects ofthe industrialisation of MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- Mangalore areas; PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) Besides the National Oilseeds Development Project,. (c) whether views of expert bodies like Government of India has sanctioned the Institute of Chemical Engineers have Oilseeds Production Thrust Project during been obtained; and 1987-88. Also better incentive to producer through fixation of minimum support price for (d) if so, the details thereof and the oilseeds at higher levels, intensification of action taken/proposed to be taken thereon? research efforts, exploitation of oilseeds of tree and forest origin, rice bran, etc, setting THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE up necessary processing and infrastrud..,ral MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & NATURAL facilities and fiscal incentives for increased GAS (SHRt BRAHMA DUTT): (a) to (d): The use of non-conventional oils and solvent present approval is only for the preparation extracted oils have been taken up. of a Detailed project Report for a 3 MTPA Petro-Chemical Refinery at Mangalore. Fi- {b) During 1987-88, financial assis- nal decision on executing the project will be tance under the National Oilseeds Develop- taken after the Detailed Project Report is ment Project as Government of India's shara considered and approved by Government. sanctioned to Uttar Pradesh is As. 98~664 lakhs. Under the Oilseeds Production Thrust It is too early to assess the typ,e of Project, 1000/0 Central assistance of As downstream industries that may come up in 215.63 lakhs has been sanctioned to the that area. However, setting up of all projects State during the same period for oilseed. in that area will be subjed to appropriate development. environmental clearances only. (c) It is too early to estimate the produc- Production of edible 011 tion of oilseeds during the current year.

114. SHRI RAM NAGINA MISHRA: Food Testing Laboratories SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: 115. SHRI G.M. BANATWALlA; Witl Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES PLIES be pleased to state: be pleased to stat8:

(8) the steps proposed to be taken by (8) whether there is any propouJ tor Government to increase the production of setting up food testing laboratories underthe edible 011 keeping in view Its shortage In the Control of his Ministry: and 211 Written An$wers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 212

(b) if so, the details thereof indicating In Assam, ONGC and OIL have location of such laboratories and the time by committed gas as follows: which these will be established? ONGC THE DEPUTY r~(NISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- CQnSU019( Quantity (MMQMDJ PLIES (SHRI D. L. 8AITHA): (d) and (b). Yes, Sir. The Bureau of Indian Standards' HFCL, Namrup 0.45 pr~poses to set up a laboratory at Banga!ore for testing food products such as biscuits, ASES 0.465 milk powder etc. in a year's time. Another proposal to strengthen testing facilities for Tea Estate 0.02 fruits and vegetable products is under con- sideration of the Department of Food, tho details of whiCh are being worked out. HFCL, Namrup 1.76 Utilisation of Gas Available In Namrup 011 Fields ASEB 0.80

116. SHRI KRISHNA SINGH~ Will the Kathalguri Power 1.00 Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Others 0.70

(a) whether Government's attention (c) At present, about 0.3 MMCMD of has"been drawn to the news item captioned, associated gas is being flared from the oil "Assam not availing of Namrup plant's bene- producing Helds of ONGC in· Assam. fits· appearing in the 'Hindustan Times' of 24th December, 1987; (d) The main reasons for flaring of gas is non-offtake of committed quantity of gas (b) if so, how much of the gas available by consumers. They have been advised to in the Namrup oil fields is being utilised by (i) utilise the committed quantity. Additional Namrup Fertilizer Plant and (ii) others; gas has also been committed to ASEB: Nagaland Pulp & Paper Corporation, Tuli (c) how much of the gas still continue to and power plant at Kathalguri. As these be flared by the Oil and Natural Gas consumers come up, flaring of gas is ex- Commission; and pected to come down. OIL have also pro- pose to install additional compression facili- (d) what steps are being taken for ties, which help in utilising low pressure gas. optimum utilisation 01 the gas potential?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Reforms In Public Sector MINISTRY OF PERTOLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DUTI): (a) Yes, 117. SHRI KRISHNA SINGH: Sir. SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO- HIT: (b) Gas is being supplied to -HFCL Namrup and other consumers from ONGC's Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pfeaaed to and OIL', fields In Alaam. atat.: 213 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4.1909 (SAKA) Written Ans~rs 214

(a) whether Government have decided (e) the efforts being made to snlUte to take some drastic steps to reform the adequate power supply and the results public sector to make it more effective as the thereof? main instrument of self-reliance; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the details thereof? DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS.. TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA THE MIN!STER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI ROHTAGI): «a) Two grid disturbances oc- J., VENGALA RAO): (a) and (b). Improve- curred in the Northern Grid mainly due to low ment or revamping wherever warranted is a voltage oonditions caused by heavy reactive continuous process in public sector enter.. power demand by irrigation and other pump- prises, and the steps taken therefor havl=J ing loads. been detailed in pages 182 to 186 in Chap- ter.. 10 of Volume-1 of Public Enterprises (b) In case load shedding becomes Survey 1985-86 laid on the Table' of the necessary, it is carried out by DESU accord- House in the Budget Session, 1987. ing to a schedule of load shedding. Un- scheduled load shedding has to be resorted Power Failures In North India to in emergency conditions to maintain the grid parameters and to save the system. 118. SHRI P.M. SAYEED: SHRI HARISH RAWAT: (c) The power supply position in Delhi is SHRI HAFiZ MOHO. SIODIQ: at present satisfactory. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: (d) and (e). In the current year, there is SHRI GEETA MUKHERJEE: shortfall in hydel generation due to tow res- SHRI UTIAM RATHOD: ervoir levels and agricultural demand for SHRI SRIBALLAV PANI- power has increased due to the widespread GRAHl: drought condition. A contingency plan has SHRI MUKUL WASNIK: been formulated and implemented to in- creased thermal generation. Measures Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to have also baen taken to implement a load state: management plan to improve the voltage profile of the Northern Grid. A task Force has (a) the main reasons for major power been constituted to expedite installation of failures in North India including Delhi during shunt oopacitors by the States/UT in the the last two months; Northern Region. DESU expects that, with the measures to augment generation and to (b) whether any system is being fol- strengthen the transmission and distribution lowed in scheduling the load-shedding pe.. system, and with assistance from the Cen· dod in the 'capital; tral power stations and the Northern Re- gional Electricity Board, the power supply (c) the time by which the power supply position in Delhi in the coming months would in Delhi is likely to be restored to normalcy; be by and large satisfactory.

(d) whether the Delhi Electric Supply Strike In Indian 011 Corporation Undertaking has admitted that the ensuing summer would not be comfortable or the 119. SHRI P.M. SA YEEO: WI. the residents of capital keeping in view the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL power supply position; and GAS be pleased to atate: 215 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answ9rs 216

(a) whe1herthe employees ofthe Indian (a) whether a proposal for import of car Oil Corporation resorted to a strike in the telephones from a Swedish company is third week of January, 1988; under consideration; and

(b) if so, the number of the employees (b) if so, the name of this company and who struck work; the total number of telephones proposed to be imported under the scheme and the (c) the main demands of the employees expenditure involved therein? and the reaction of Government thereto; THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND (d) whether the strike hit the LPG con- MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI sumers in Delhi; and VASANT SATHE): (a) A Swedish Company is one of the bidders in response to the (e) if so, the resulting backlog in terms tender called for the supply of Cellular of days in the supply of LPG cylinders to the Mobile Telephone system for Bombay. consumers and the present position of the LPG supply? ~o) The decision regarding placement of orders has not yet been finalised. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRy'OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- Setting up of Lignite Based Power RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM A DUTT): (a) Yes, Plants by N.L.C. Sir,. There was a one-day's token strike' of the

20th January I 1988' ~1. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) Approximately 23,000; (a) whether there is any proposal for (c) The Unions of the Indian Oil Corpo- setting up a new lignite based thermal power ration were demanding early finalisation of plant by the Neyveli Lignite Corporation; and the Long-Term Settlement under negotia~ tion with them, with Interim Relief sanctioned (b) if so, the name of the place where it to workmen in Public Sector Undertakings to is to be set up, indicating the date and the be taken as basic pay for all purposes. estimated capacity thereof? Government is also interested in early finali- sation of the long-term wage settlement. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- (d) Yes, Sir. TRY OF ENERGY (SHR C.K. JAFFAR SHARIEF): (a) and (b). The following are the (e) There was no LPG refill supply to proposals for setting up new lignite based Delhi market on the day of the strike. Back- power plants by Neyveli Lignite Corporation: log as on 9.2.88 in Delhi market was 33,250 cylinders, which is less than 1 112 days' i) Addition of 1 x 210 MW Unit to requirements. the second Thermal Power Sta- tion Stage I at Neyveli, Tamil Import of Car Telephones Nadu.

120. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the Ii) Addhion of 2 X 210 MW Units to Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased the first Thermal Power Station to state: at Neyveli, Tamil Nadu. 217 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 218

iii) Establishment of a 2 x 120 MW sanctioned an amount of Rs. 182.50 lakhs to power Plant at Palana- various StateslUTs for the purchase of 73 Barsinghsar in Bikaner District of vans to be operated as mobile fair price " Rajasthan. shops during the financial year 1987-88.

iv) Establishment of a 3 x 500 ,MW STATEMENT third Thermal Power Station at Neyveli. Tamil Nadu. Statement Showing State-wise Number of Additional Fair Price Shops Opened in the The above units are intended to yield drought/Flood Affected States/UTs since benefits during the Eighth and Ninth Five August, 1987. Year Plans. (As on 9.2.88) Opening of more Fair Price Shops In State/U. T No. of additional States Fair Price Shops

122. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the 1. Andhra Pradesh 32 Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: 2. Bihar

(a) whether any directives have been 3. Gujarat 358 issued to State Governments to open maxi- mum number of Fair Price Shops with a view 4.- Haryana 61 to contain the effect of drought and to make available foodgrains to people at controlled 5. Himachal Pradesh 46 prices; and 6. Karnataka 114 (b) if so, the number of additional fair price shops opened during the last four 7. Kerala 11 months, State-wise? 8. Madhya Pradesh 94 THE DEPUTY MINISTER' IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- 9. Maharashtra 330 PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) and (b). In the wake of the drought and flood conditions 10. Mizoram 10 prevailing in several parts of the country to during 1987, State/UTs were asked open 11. Ori~sa 26 additional fair price shops in uncovered. remote -and inaccessible areas and also to 12. Rajasthan 52 press into service mobile vans to ooverthose areas where static iair price shops could not 13. Uttar Pradesh 3194 be opened. Since August, 1987, 4381 fair price shops have been opened in various 14. West Bengal 33 StateslUTs. State-wise position of addi- tional fair price shops opened since August 15. Delhi 9 '87 is given in the statement below. 16. Pondicherry 11 The Central Government has also 4381 219 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 220 Report on Maintenance of Telecommu- to units where wage agreements had ex- nication Equipment pired; .

123. SHRI BAJU BAN RIYAN: (d) if so, the names of the units under SHAI AJOY BISWAS: his Ministry whose wage agreements have expired and have been paid interim relief; Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be and pleased to state: (e) the names of those units which have (a) the details of the Telecom Advisory not been paid interim relief as yet? Committee report on maintenance of tele- communication equipment; and THE MiNISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c). Various issues (b) the names of Government/public arising out of the Government decision to sedor nominees? pay interim relief to workers in public sector enterprises governed by in~ustrial dearness THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND allowance are under consideration of the MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Government. VASANT SATHE): (a) There is no report on Maintenance of Telecommunication equip- (d) and (e). The information is being ments from any of the Telecom.lTelephone collected and will be placed on the table of Advisory Committees. the House as soon as collected.

(b) Does not arise in view of reply to part Shortage of Power In Northern (a) above. Region

Payment of Interim Relief to Public 125. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RA- Sector Workers MOOWALLA: DR. CHINTA MOHAN: 124. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Will SHRI JITENDRA PRASADA: the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA: state: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to (a) whether Government have finally state: decided to make payment of interim relief to the public sector workers; (a) whether there has been an acute shortage of power in northern region; (b) whether Government have consid· ered the demand of the trade unions that (b) if so, the position in respect of the interim relief paid now should not be ad- power generation in different States; justed in the salaries to be worked out through the wage negotiations in the various (c) the requirement of power of these units; States;

(c) whether the decision to pay interim (d) the quantum of power out of total renaf to workers taken by the Energy Minis- generation being utilised for agricultural, ter and the erstwhile labour Minister in- industrial and domestic purposes in various cluded that this interim relief should be given States; and 221 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Written Answsrs 222

(e) the immediate steps being taken by in various States and Union Territories is Government to meet the shortage of power? given in the statement-II below.

(e) The measures being taken to im- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE prove the availability of power include expe- DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- diting commissioning of new capacity, opti- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA mum utilisation of existing capacity, imple- ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). The required informa- menting short gestatton projects, reducing tion is given in the statement-I below. transmission & distribution losses, implem- entation of energy conservation and de- (d) A Statement showing electricity mand management measures and arrang- utilised in agricultural, industrial, domestic ing transfer of energy from surplus to deficit and other purposes during the year 1986-87 areas. 223 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Wtittlln AM..,. 224

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Sick Industrial Units units in the country, the Government have taken various steps. The Reserve Bank of 126. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RA- India have issued guidelines to the banks for MOOWALlA: strengthening the monitoring system and for SHRI JAGANNATH PATNAIK: arresting industrial sickness at the incipient SHRI S.M. GURADDI: stage so that corre~t:ve measures are taken DR. CHINTA MOHAN: in time. The banks have also been directed SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: by the Reserve Bank of India to formulate. SHRI S.B. SIDNAL: rehabilitation packages for the revival of potentially viable units on merits of each Will'the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to case. In addition, Government have enacted state: a comprehensive legislation, nam~ly. liThe (a) the number of sick units in the Sick Industrial Companies (Special Provi- country, State-wise; sions) Act, 1985" which provides for setting (b) the percentage of total bank credit up of a quasi-judicial body designated as the blocked in these sick units; Board for Industrial and Financial Recon- struction (BIFR) to deal with the problems of (c) whether Government have for- sick industrial companies in an effective warded any scheme to the State Govern- manner. The BIFR has become operational ments to bring down the number of sick with effect from 15 th May, 1987. industries; and Reserve Bank of India have also issued (d) if so, the details thereof? guidelines separately to the banks indicating parameters within which banks could grant THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE reliefs and concessions for rehabilitation of DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- potentially viable sick units without refer- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- ence to RBI, both in the large and small scale TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and sectors. (b). Data on sick industrial units assisted by Government of India introduced a Mar- banks in the country are collected by the gin Money scheme with a view to supple- Reserve Bank of India as per the definition of menting the efforts of the State Govern- , sickness adopted by it. Based on the latest ments in reducing the incidence of sickness information available from RBI, a statement in the small scale sector. Under the liberal- is given below. ised scheme the maximum amount of assis- tance per unit available to sick small scale (c) and (d). To revive the sick industrial units for rehabilitation has been increased from Rs. 20000 to Rs. 50000. STATEMENT

State-wise data on sick industrial units as at the end of June, 1986 (Source: Reserve Bank of India)

Large Sick Units SSI Sick Units

Name of the No. of Amount No. of Amount StatelUnion units outstanding units outstanding Territory (As. crores) (As. crores).

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~_Andhra------.----- Pradesh 39 114.28 9939 6701.56 239 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23i 1988 Written Answers 240

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Assam 6 15.37 4558 1061.85

Bihar 16 48.87 9304 5225.37

Gujtuat 66 332.20 5517 8290.16

Haryana 15 42.58 1504 2515.58

Himachal Pradesh 427 376.22

Jammu & Kashmir 1375 678.60

Karnataka 36 183.79 4862 8845.36

Kerala 18 130.25 2467 4936.05

Maharashtra 151 898.54 9952 20846.73 ... Madhya Pradesh 26 96.27 7901 3417.56

Orissa 9 37.84 5862 2807.73

Punjab 5 10.83 1528 -2444.69

Rajasthan 10 31.80 6316 3133.78

Tamil Nadu 55 203.69 15..436 12390.84

ar Pradesh 72 315.80 12855 8411.30

West Bengal 150 738.22 24200 17398.63

Goa, Daman & Diu 4 11.09 984 912.59

Nagaland 8 7.42

Dadra & Nagar Haveli 8 16.26

Arunachal Pradesh 15 1.85

Chandigarh 2 3.34 180 561.21

Deihi 5 10.30 2413 7016.89

Manlpur 520 47.88 241 Wrlttsn Answets PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 242

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Meghalaya 91 22.49

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Pondicherry 3 11.62 218 315.87

Tripura 1 1.96 243 32.86

Andaman & Nicobar 1 0.73

Total 689 3238.64 128684 118418.06

Note: Large units mean those enjoying bank credit of Rupees one crore and above from the banking system.

Demand of Petrol · GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) Yes, Sir.

127. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RA- (b) The consumption of petrol during MOOWALlA: 1985-86 and 1986-87 has been 2.28 million DR. CHINTA MOHAN: tonnes and 2.51 million tonnes respectively.

Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (c) and (d). During the last three years NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: i.e. 1985-86, 1986-87 and 1987-88, the prices of petrol have been increased twice (a) whether it is a fact that there has and the quantum of increase has been Rs. been continuous increase in the demand of 500 per kl with effect from the 1 st February, petrol in the country during the last three 1986 and Rs. 1000 per kl with effect from the years;' 9 th January, 1988. The price was, however, reduced by As. 100 pdr kl with effect from the (b) jf so, the year-wise demand of petrol 6 th February, 1986. during the last two years; (e) No, Sir. The price increase has (c) whether it is also a fact that the helped in containing the growth in the con- prices of petrol have been increased a sumption of petrol, in spite of rapid increase number of times during the aforesaid period; in the population of two, three and four- wheeler vehicles. (d) if so, when and how ma'ny times the prices were increased and the extent of Strike in Coal Mines increase each time; and 128. SHAIINDRAJrTGUPTA: (e) whether it is also a fact that the SHRI HANNAN MOLlAH: demand of petrol has not declined even after SHRI V. KRISHNA RAO: increasing its price? SHRI PURNA CHANDRA MALIK: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM a NATURAL Will the. Minister of ENERGY be 243 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23.1988 Written Answers 244 pleased to state: Machinery in all the concerned States has been alerted to intervene in the matter and (a) whether the coal miners all over the deal with the strike notices if and when country have decided to go on a six days received. strike from March 15 demanding for the implementation of wage agreement Ill; Development Council for Tyres and Tubes . (b) if so, whether the agreement was signed and the details thereof; 129. SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (c) the reason for delay in implementa- tion of the said agreement: and (a) whether it is a fact that a Develop- ment Council for Tyres and Tubes was set (d) the steps taken by Government to up long back to monitor the situation in the avert the strike? tyre industry and the market;

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, when the Council was set up DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS·· and how many meetings have been held so TRY OF ENERGY· (SHRI C.K. JAFFER fa, with respective dates; SHARIEF): (a) It has been reported that at a Convention of certain non-INTUC Central (c) whether it is also a fact that the Trade Unions (AITUC, CITUC, BMS and Committee has not met since May, 1985; HMS) held at Calcutta on 20 th January, and 1988 a decision was taken to organise a strike of one week in the coal mines from (d) if so, the details and reasons there· March 15, 1988. The demands, among other for? things, reportedly include implementation of non implemented clauses of NCWA-lii. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- (b) The National Wage Agreement-III OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- was signed on , 1.11.1983. The Agreement TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and covered wage structure, dearness allow- (b). A Development Cuuncil for the sched- ance, fitment in the revised scales of pay and uled industry engaged in the manufacture of other issues related to service conditions. tyres and tubes was first constituted under· the provision of Section 6 of the Industries (c) The Agreement had been substan- (Dev. & Reg.) Act 1951 vide Notification tially implemented before it expired on dated 12 th March, 1983. The Council was 31.12.1986. One main provision that could dissolved and reconstituted in June, 1984. It not be implemented related to providing was again reconstituted vide Notification employment to a dependent of each retiring dated 29 th July, 1987 for a period of 2 years employee. This provision was found to be with effect from the date of the notification. violative of the Constitution. There were also The meetings of the Development Council some shortfalls in fulfilling the targets set for were held on 20.12.1984, 17.7.1985 and certain welfare measures especially hous- 8.5.1986. ing where the chief difficulty experienced was lack of land. (c) and (d). A meeting of the Council was held on 8.5.1988. A circular letter has Cd) The Central Industrial Relations already bef'n rS3ued to all Membe,.. of the re- 245 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 246 re-constituted council requesting their sug- (b) if so, whether Government have gestions regarding issues which they would recently withdra~n the excise concession like the council to consider in its first meeting. and also bracketed mini cement units with the major cement plants resulting in crisis for Workers participation In Coal India mini plants; and Limited Management (C) the steps Government propose to 130. SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: VJiII the take to save the mini cement units? Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether some central trade unions DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- have sought for the modification of certain OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- clauses of the Workers Participation TRY OF ENERGY (SHAI M. ARUNACHA- Scheme in the management of Coal India LAM): (a) Yes Sir. Limited which involve workers' interests; and (b) and (c). No concession in excise duty for the mini cement plants has be~n (b) if so, the details thereof and withdrawn recently. Certain concessions in Government's response thereto? excise duty were given to the mini cement plants between 1979 and 31.3.1984 as a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE result of which the excise duty paid by mini DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- cement pl~nts was lower as compared to TRY OF ENERGY (SHRt C.K. JAFFAR that of large sized plants. (The concessions SHARIEF): (a) Yes, Sir. were not extended beyond 31.3.1984). However, mini cement plants which were (b) The objection mainly relate to the required to sell the cement produced by qualifications prescribed for prospective them at a controlled price (without distribu- candidates, eligibility conditions, powers of tion control) were exempted from price and the workers' directors to be nominated, etc. distribution controls, on introduction of policy The scheme was discussed with the trade of partial de-control in February, 1982. union leaders on 16-2-1988 by Energy Min- ister and it has been decided to keep the In order to give relief 10 the cement implementation of the scheme in abeyance industry the Government announced in pending formulation of a comprehensive 1987 a rebate in excise duty of As. 50/- per scheme of workers' participation from the tonne for the large sized cement plants as lowest to the highest level of management. well as the mini cement plants which com· menced production on or after 1.4.1986. Large sized cement plants as welf as mini Crisis In mini cement plants cement plants which commenced produc- tion between 1.1.1982 and 31.3.86 have 131. DR. G.S. AAJHANS: Will the been given a rebate of As. 20/- per tonne in Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: excise duty.

(a) whether attention of Government Associations of mini cement plants has been drawn to the news item captioned have sent representations to the Govern- "Mini cement plants on brink of crisis" ap- ment asking for further fiscal reliefs. No pearing in the 'Hindustsn Times" dated 28 decision on the 'representations has been January, 1988; taken s'o far. However, in order to improve 247 Written Answers . FEBRU,ARY23, 1988 Written Answers 248 the viability of the mini cement plants, the whetherthe cellular telephone proj- Government have allowed them to expand ect has been introduced; their capacity from 200tonn9S perdayt0300 tonnes per day initially and to 600 tonnes per (b) if so, the details of the project; if not, day thereafter subjed to certain conditions. the reasons for the delay;

Shifting of Hazardous Industries from (c) whether any foreign company has Residential Areas of Deihl been approached for the supply of neces- sary technology. etc; and 132. DR. G.S. RAJHANS: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (d) if so, the details thereof?

(a) the number of hazardous units func- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND tioning in the residential colonies of Delhi; MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir. (b) whether Government have any time bound plan to shift these units to industrial (b) The project under the consideration areas; of the Government had been temporarily deferred due to drought conditions prevail- (c) if so, the details thereof; and ing in the country.

(d) the reasons for delay in shifting (c) and (d). A tender for supply of them immediately? Cellular Mobile Radio Telephone System for Bombay of 5,000 lines in two phases of 1200 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and 3800 lines was floated in 1986 and the DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- same was opened in November, 1986. OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- These have been studied and evaluated by TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Ac- a Committee which submitted its report in cording to a survey conducted by the Direc- March, 1987. A number of companies had responded for this tender. The systems torate of Industries, Delht Administration I there are 868 units causing pollution in the found to be technically suitable were from Walled City of Delhi. Action to identify such manufacturers outside India. Transfer of units in other parts of the Delhi has been tecnology is one of the clauses in the above initiated. tender. The Department has not ap- proached any company for supply of tech- (b) to (d). Such units would be reallo- nology as yet. cated in the eXisting developed industrial estates of DDA to the extent possible and STD Facility on National Subscriber then in industrial areas, to be planned and Dialling developed by DDA and Delhi Administra- tion. 134. SHRI MANIK REDDY: SHRI SUBHASH YADAV: SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: Cellular Telephone Project SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: 133. SHRI MANIK REDDY: Will the Minlaterof COMMUNICATIONS be pleased Will the Minist.r of COMMUNICATIONS be to atat.: pleased to at.t.: 249 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written AnswelS 250

(a) the. number and names of cities 1 2 which are likely to be provided STD facility on National Subscriber Dialling; 7. Amalapuram (b) whether any time bound pro- gramma has been fixed forthe purpose; and 8. Anini

(c) if so, the details in this regard? 9. Anantnag

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 10. Ankleshwar MINISTER OF COMMUNICATION 3 (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) A list of names of 11. Annand cities which are likely to be provided STD facility on National Subscriber Dialling is 12. AnguJ given in the stat~ment below. 13. Anjar (b) and (c). It has been planned to provide STD facility on National Subscriber 14. Armoor Dialling to these cities during the current 7th Plan and the early 8th Plan, for which Auto- 15. matisation of manual eXChanges, provision of reliable transm ission media wherever 16. Azamgarh necessary, installation of additional Trunk Automatic Exchanges and expansion of the 17. existing capacity of Trunk Automatic Ex- changes have been planned. 18. Baragarh

STATEMENT 19. Bavla

Stations planned to be. provided STO 20. Bahraich facility on National Subscriber Dialling 21. Baramula SI. No. Name of Station 22. Baramati 1 2 23. 8atala 1. Abwa 24. Barnala 2. Alibagh 25. 8adgam

26. Bars; 4. Alipurdwar 27. Barpetta Town 5. Amethi 28. Balurghat 6. Amb;kapur 29. Bankura 251 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answer::; 252

1 2 1 2

30. Bareut 52. Banswara

31'. Sarmer 53. Basti

32. Barabanki 54. Banda

33. Bahrouch 55. Bhilwara

34. Bomdila 56. Bhadoi

35. Bongaigaen 57. Bijnore

36, Botad 58. Bisenpur

37. Begusarai 59. Bolingir

38. Bhirshariff 60. Bhadrak

39. Bokaro Steel City 61. Ottapalam

40. Bhuj 62.

41. Bilaspur 63. Balia

42. Bijapur 64. Car Nicobar

43. Byadgi 65. Chirala

44. Beed 66. Chirkunda

45. 67. Chamba

46. Buldhana 68. Champa Nagar

47. Bhind 69. Chandrapur (Pragyotishpur) 48. Betul 70. Chhatarpur 49. Balaghat 71. Chatarpur 50. Berhampur (Ganjam) (Murshidabad) 72. Chhindwara 51. Bundi 73. Chalisgaon 253 Wrinen Answers PHALGUNA 4, -1909 (SAKA ) Wrinen Answers 2S4

1 2 1 2

74. Chiplun 96. Diu

75. Contai 97. Dhoraji

76. Chittur 98. Dharamshala

77. Chittorgarh 99. Dowaliswaram

78. Churu 100. Dhula

79. Cuddalore 101. Dhamtari

BO. Cuddalore 102. Diamond Harbour Sipcot 103. Durgachowk 81. Coonoor 104. Dungarpur 82. Chinalpatti 105. Faridkot 83. Chamoli 106. Fazilka 84. Churachandpur 107. Ferozabad 85. Chandal 108. F arrukhabad 86. Oatia 109. Falta 87. Oaporize 110. t::tawah 88. Damoh 111. 89. Daman 112. Giridh .90. Dabohi 113. Geyzing 91. Deoria 114. Godavarik"ani 92. DOda 115. Golpara 93. Diphu 116. Godda 94. Dumka 117. GrJm'. 95. Deogarh 118. ~palganf 255 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 256

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119. Gondal 142. Jaunpur

120. Gulmarg 143. Jalore

121. Guna 144. Jaisalmer

122. 145: Jhalawar

123. Gonda 146. Jetpur

124. Gurdaspur 147. Jhansi

125. Ghazipur 148. Jahanabad

126. Gummidipoondi 149. Jhabua

127. 150. Jind

128. Hathras 151. Jagdalpur

129. Hanumangarh 152. Jalna

130. Halflong 153. Jalpaiguri

131. Hardoi 154.

132. Haridwar 155. Jeypore

133. Haldwani 156. Jhunjhunu

134. Hajipur 157. Kathua

135. Hamirpur (HP) 158. Karimganj

136. Hamirpur (UP) 159. Katn,

137. Himalnagar 160. Kalpa

138. Hoshangabad 161. Kargil

139. Hoskote 162. Karad

140. Hindupur 163. Kandla

141. Hoshiarpur 164. Kanauj 257 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Writtsn AnswelS 258

1 2 1 2

165. Kasganj 188. Krishanagiri

166. Karong 189. Kailashahar

167. Kanjirapally 190. Kurdeong

168. Kasargad 191. Kerapur

169. Khonsa 192. Keonjhar

170. Kokrajhar 193. Leh

171. Khagaria 194.

172. Kapadwanj 195. Lohardaga

173. Kurkshetra 196. Lone Vala

174. Keylong 197. Lalitpur

175. Kulu 198. Mandapetta

176. Kupwara ' 199. Mangaldoi

177. Kolencherry 200. Mongan

178. Khargone 201. Madhopura

179. Kudal 202. Madhubani

180. Khamgaon 203. Mapucca

181. Khopoli 204. Mbdasa

182. Kopergaon 205. Manavadar

183. Kapurthala 206. Mandi

184. Kotkapura 207. Mandya

185. Kotrasgarh 208. Mala

186. Kodinar 209.

187. Kurangapally 210. Manarghat 25i ' Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 260

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'211. Mavelikara 234. Navsari

212. Mandidweep 235. Narnaul

213. Mandla 236. Nahan

214. 237. Nileshwar

215. Mahableshwaram 238. Nilampur

216. Malad 239. Nedumangady

217. Murbad 240. Neemuch

218. Moga 241. Narsinghpur

219. Malarkotla 242. Nanded

220. Marraimalai 243. Nongstoin

221. Mau nathbhanjan 244. Naida

222. Mankapur 245. Narrendar Nagar

223. Mugalsarai 246. Osmanbad

224. Mahe 247. Peddapuram

225. Mokokchug 248. Poonch

226. Man 249. Passighat

227. Mandigobind Garh 250. Purnea

228. Naharlagen 251. Ponda

229. Nalbari 252. Patan

230. Nowgong 253. Petlad

231. North Lakhimpur 254. Printalm anna

232. Naya Bazaar 255. Pandalam

233. Nawadah 256. Panna 261 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 262

1 2 1 2

257. Manmad 280. Sahrsa

258. Pulwama 282. Sitamarhi

259. 283. Sahebganj

260. 284. Shoranur

261. Palghat 285. Sahore

262. Phalton 286. Shivpuri

263. Phagwara 287. Shahdol

264. Pithoragarh 288. Shajapur

265. Pauri 289. Sidhi

266. Phok 290.

267. Pali 291. Srirampur

268. Rajouri 292. Swaimadhopur

269. Raisan 293. Sikar

270 Rajgarh 294. Sriganganagar

271. Ratlam 295. Sirohi

272. Rajnandgaon 296. Tezu

273. Ratnagiri 297. Twang

274. Ropar 298. Tezpur

275. Ramanathapuram 299. Tikamgarh

276. Radhakishorpur 300. Taloja

277. Ranikhet 301. Tar~pur

278. Siddipet 302. Talegaon Dhabach

279. Solan 303. Tonk 263 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 264

1 2 1 2

304. Tamanglong 327. Ruderapur

305. Tamluk 328. Aishikesh

306. Thoubal 329. Roha

307. Tumsar 330. Simhachalam

308. Tuensang 331. Sunder Garh

309. Upleta 332. Somanur

310. Una 333. Srivillputtur

311. Uttarkashi 334. Shikohabad

312. Ujhani 335. Saiha

313. Ukhrul 336. Silvasa

314. Vapi 337. Kunta

315. V.V. Nagar 338. Kompli

316. Jadcherla 339. Kengeri

317. Varkala 340. Ramanagram

318. Vadakkanchery 341. Jatni

319. Vidisha Shortage of Energy 320. Virar 1135. SHRI MANIK REDDY: 321. Yanam SHAI SUBHASH YADAV: SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: 322. Williamnagar SHRI OHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: 323. Wokha Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to 324. Zero state:

325. Zunebhote (a) whether there has been an a~ute 326. Parwanoo shortage of energy in the country; 285 Wrftt9l1 Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Wr/ttlln AnsWllrs 268

(b) if so. the estimated production of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE energy; and DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA (c) the estimated demand of energy of ROHTAGI):(a) to (c). The required informa- each State at present? tion is given in statement below:

STATEMENT

Actual; power supply position for April'87-January'88

(Figures in MU net)

REGION! !'pri!, 1987 - January.'88 State Requirement Availability Shortage 0/0 System

1 2 3 4 5

NORTHERN REGION

CHANOIGARH 358 357 1 0.30/0

DELHI 5463 5371 92 1.7%

HARYANA 5932 5128 804 13.6%

HIMACHAL PRADESH 888 883 5 0.6%

JAMMl:J & KASHMIR 1871 1700 171 9.1 % f ... ""~.\,,," PUNJAB inc!. N.F.F. 11080 10323 757 6.8%

RAJASTHAN 7244 6380 864 11.90/0

UTTAR PRADESH 19825 16483 3342 16.90/0

TOTAL (N.R) 52661 46625 6036 11.5%

WESTERN REG/Of':J

GUJRAT 14914 14245 669 4.5%

MADHYA PRADESH 11527 1·1141 386 3.30/0

MAHARASHTRA 25232 23581 1651 6.5% 267 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 268

1 2 3 4 5

GOA 404 404 o 0.0%

TOTAL (W.R) 52077 49371 2706

SOUTH REGION

ANDHRA PRADESH 13561 12144

KARNATAKA 12465 8667 3798 30.50/0

KERLA 5085 4292

TAMIL NADU 14165 12523 1642 11.6%

TOTAL (S.R) 45276 37626 7650 16.9%

EASTERN REGION

BIHAR 4275 3431

D.V.C. 5915 5403

ORISSA 5715 4718

WEST BENGAL 7135 6607

TOTAL (E.R.) 23040 20159 2881 12.5%

NORTH EASTERN REGION 1773 1691

ALL INIDA 174827 155472

Import of Olllseeds and Sugar drought and floods in the country;

136. SHRI MANIK REDDY: (b) if so, whether government propose SHRI SUBHASH YADAV: to import oilseeds and sugar to meet thr SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: shortage; and SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: (c) if not, the reasons thereof?

Will the Minister of FOOD SAND CIVIL THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE SUPPLIES be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- PLIES (SHAI D.l.BAITHA): (a) There is no (8) whether it is a fact that there is an acute shortage of oilseeds and sugar due to acute shortage of oilseeds and sugar due to drought and floods in the country, though, 269 Written Answers PHAlGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA). Written Answers 270

the Kharif oilseed crops were adversely af- exploration of 011 In Rajasthan fected on this account. 138. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TAl .. (b) There is a proposal to import, on aid PATHI: Will the Minister of PEffiOLEUM basis, 5 lakh tonnes of oilseeds to be canal- AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: ised through National Dairy Development Board. Taking into account the present trend (a) whether exploration of oil on a large in sugar production further import of sugar scale is being started in Rajasthan; will be decided at the appropriate time. (b) if so. the name of the firm trusted (c) Does not ari59. with the above work and the total amount likely to be incurred thereon; and Direction Issued for Dehoardlng Of Foodgrains (c) the time likely to be taken on the completion of the work? 137. SHRI M.V.CHANDRASEKHARA MURTHY: Will the Minister of FOOD AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU.. RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM ADUn) (a) to (c): (a) whether Union Government have Oil and Natural Gas Commission and Oil issued directive to the State Governments to India Limited are already conducting oil intensify measures for dehoarding of exploration in Rajasthan. The expenditure foodgrains in order to ensure easy availabil- on exploration during the Seventh Plan I is ity; likely to be around Rs 170 crores. The ~~ .. ploratory work in Rajasthan is likely to con- (b) if so, the details thereof; and tinue for some more years beyond the whether State Government have followed Seventh Plan. these directives; and

(c) the further steps Government pro- Non Availability of Coal In Supe, pose to take to make the foodgrains easily Thermal Power Projects available in the country? 139. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: SHRI S.M.GURADDI: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to PLIES (SHRI D.L.BAITHA) (a) and (b). The state: State Government ~ nd UT Admns. were only advised to intro IUCS regulatory meas- (a) Whether the two super thermal ures 10 intensify de~ Jarding operations by power projects of the National Thermal fixing stock holding limits for wheat and rice Power Corporation are under a grim pros- and also to bring wheat and wheat products pect of non-availability of coal ; under licensing wherever and to the extent necessary. (b) if so, whether this has hampered the production of power; (c). The public distribution system has been strengthened and Central Pool wheat (c) the extent to which the production ia is being sold in the open market. affected; and 271 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 272

(d) the steps taken to improve the coal Eledrification Corporation obtains an under- production? taking from the State Electricity Boards that at least 6 hours of power supply per day THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE would be ensured in the rural areas. DEPARTMENT OF POWER'IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHllA Energy Conservation Strategy Recom- ROHTAGI):(a) and (b). None of the Super mended by Bureau of Industrial Cost. Thermal Power Projects of NTPC have and Prices. suffered loss of power generation on ac- count of inadequacy of coal. 141. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: SHRI S.M.GURADDI (c) Does not arise. DR. V.VENKATESH:

(d) Steps taken to improve ooal produc- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to tion include opening of new coal mines, state: modernisation of existing mines, induction of _improved mining technologies and close (a) whetherthe Chairman of the Bureau monitoring of performance of collieries. of Industrial Costs and Prices has recom- mended a 3-Point strategy for achieving Load Shedding Problem In Rural Ara~s proper energy conservation;

140. SHRIG.S.8ASAVARAJU:Wilithe (b) if so, whether these suggestions Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: have been examined by Government;

(a) whether the Rural Electrification (c) the main attractions of the sug- Corporation had made any suggestions to gested strategy; and the State Electricity Board about the load- shedding problem in the rural areas: (d) the time by which the same Is likely to be implemented? (b) if so, the details of the suggestions made; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- (c) how many State Electricity Boards TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA have already introduced these suggestions; ROHTAGI) (a). The Bureau fo Industrial and Costs and Price~ has, in its recent reports on Energy Audit of Cement, Paper and Alumin- (d) the benefits of these suggestions in ium industries, suggested short-term checking of the load shedding? medium -term and long-term measures for achieving energy conservation in thase THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sectors. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA (b) to (d) These Energy Audit Reports, ROHTAGI) (a) to (d). According to Rural inter-alia, suggest the possibility of reduction Electrification Corporation, they have not in energy consumption to the extent of 10% made any suggestions to the State Electric- by short term investments of a marginal Ity Boards about the load shedding probl&m nature in the industries covered. Govern- in rural areas. However, while sandioning ment has taken note of the various sugges- the rural electrification schemes, the Rural tions made in tt.~ reports. While implemen- 273 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 274 tation of the measures suggested will have Credit form Italy for Energy Sector to be done mainly by the Industries con· earned, the Blep reports will provide a per- 143. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES- spective and enable the government to WARI: Will the Minister of ENERGY be monitor and coordinate the implementation pleased to stato: of energy conservation programmes in these sectors more effectively. (a) whether Italy has agreed to provide credit to the tune of Rs 325 erors to India on International Symposium of New Tech- concessional terms for use in the energy niques for Power Distribution System sector;

142. SHRI G.S.BASAVARAJU: (b) if so, whether any me'!'orandum of SHRI S.M.GURADDI: understanding has been agreed to between the two Governments; Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (c) if so, the details thereof;

(a) whether· the 3-day international (d) to what extent, the energy sector will symposium on the adoption of new tech- get a boost form the credit offered by the niques for the power distribution system was Italian Government? held on 24 December 1987. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, whether any action plan to DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE M INIS- . Improve the distribution and transmission TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA network was discussed; and ROHTAGI) :(a) to (d): a Memorandum of Understanding for a credit of US $ 250 (c) is so, the main features of the action million for use in the energy sector has been pian.? signed between the Government of India and the Government of Italy in January, 1988. The credit is repayable over 20 years, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE including grace period of 10 years, with an DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- interest rate of 1.5 % p.a. repay.able half TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA yearly and is intended to provide assistance ROHTAGI) (a) to (c) .. Yes, Sir. the Sympo- to the power development programme. sium was organised by Central Board of Irrigation and Power and held form 17th to Plpelfne form Bombay High to Manga- 19th December, 1987 at Calcutta. The thrust lore, was on innovations and new techniques to be adopted in the context of past, present 144. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESH- and future Indian scenario for bringing an WARI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM overall improvement in Power Distribution AND NATURAL GAS be pleased 10 state: Systems management and several papers were presented and discussed. (a) whether the pipeline from Bombay High to Bangalore has materialised; and The recommendations are under ex- amination in Central Board of Irrigation and (b) if not, the main reasons for the Power and shall be circulated to Power UtiH- same? ties for consideration. 275 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23,1988 Written Answet» 276

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) and (d) The following measures MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU· have been taken to improve the financial RAL GAS (SHRt BRAHMA DUTT):(a) There position of the State Electricity Boards:- is no such proposal. (i) The Eledricity (Supply) Ad 1948 (b) Does not arise. has been amended to provide for each State Electricity Board to Losses of State Electricity Boards. carry on its operations and ad- just its tariffs in such a manner as 145. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESH· to earn a net surplus of not less WARt: than 3% of the net assets at the SHRI K. RAMAMUATH": beginning. of the year .

Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to (ii) Capitalisation of interest during state: construction.

(a) the amount of loss incurred by the (iii) Prompt release of rural electrifi- State Electricity Boards during the Sixth cation subsidies. Plan; (iv) Provisions of equity support by (b) their estimated loss during the Sev- State Government. enth Plan; (e) No. Sir. (c) whether any concrete formula for reducing the losses of the State Electricitv Central Clearance to Proposals of Karna- Boards have been found; taka and Andhra Pradesh Government for Power Projects. (d) if so. the main features thereof and If not the main reasons thereof; and 146. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESH- WARt: (e) whether any foreign assistance SHRI B.N. REDDY: especially form USA or USSR is being sought to reduce these losses? Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: . THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- (a) whether Karnataka has suggested TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA to Union Govern ment to consider favourably ROHTAGI):(a) The losses incurred by the NRI proposals for participating in power State Electricity Boards during the Sixth Five projects and also their need to import neces- Year Plan have been estimated at Rs 962.2 sary equipment; crOTes after taking into account rural electri- fication subsidies provided in the accounts. (b) whether Andhra Pradesh has also pleaded for a speedy clearance of their (b) For the Seventh Plan period, a loss proposals for 6x25 M.W. combined cycle of As 11757 crores, at 1983-84 tariff levels power station bases on rural gas in the has been estimated by the Planning Krishna - Godavari basin; Commission without taking into account rural electrification subsidies. (c) whether these proposals were dis- 2n Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 278 cussed during a meeting of the Union Minis- ing the supply of cooking gas to the rest of ter of State of Power with the Power Minis- Ahmedabad thr()ugh pipelines? ters ofthe Southern States held on 2 Decem- ber, 1987 and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- (d) if so, to what extent Government RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) Pres- have agreed to accept these proposals? ently natural gas is being supplied to Oil and Natural Gas Commission colonies at Soij

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and Chandkhera (Ahmedabad) for domestic 'J,' DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- use; TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (d). The Karnataka Gov- (b) No, Sir. ernment have suggested the setting up of power projects, with NRI participation, in the Recruitment to Class III and IV Po8l.'n State. Specific proposals formulated in this ONGC In GuJarat regard would be examined on merits. The proposal of the Government of Andhra 148. SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA: Will Pradesh to set up a 3x33 MW combined the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- cycle thermal power station at Narsapur, in RAL GAS be pleased to state: lieu of the 6x25 MW power station sug- gested earlier, has been techno-economi- (a) the number of persons recruited to cally appraised by the Central Electricity class III and class IV posts in the qn and Authority. The State authorities have to indi- Natural Gas Commission Establishment! cate the availability of land for the proposed Projects Headquartered in Gujarat during power plant and confirm the implementation the there years prec~djng 31 st December, of timely and adequate flood protection 1987; measures as also compliance of the condi- tions stipula~ad by the State Pollution Con- (b) the number of persons out of those trol Board and the Department of Environ- recruited who were domiciled in Gujarat or ment. speaking Gujarati ;

These proposals were referred to in the (c) the steps taken to encourage re- Conference of Power Ministers of the South- cruitment of local residents to Class III and ern Region held in December. 1987. Class IV posts in the ONGC establishments in Gujarat; and Supply of LPG Through Pipelines In Ahmedabad. (d) whether Government have received any representation from any organisation 147. SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA: Will regarding recruitment to Class 1.1 and Class the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- IV posts in the Oil and Natural Gas Commis- RAL GAS be pleased to state: sion fromout of the local people?

(a) whether cooking gas is being sup- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE plied to the Oil and Natural Gas Commission MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & NATURAL staff colony in Ahmedabad through pipe- GAS (SHRI BHAHMA DUTI):{a) and (b). lines; and During the last three years (1985-87), 798 persons were recruited to Class III and Class (b) whether government are consider- IV posts; 692 candidates are either natives 279 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23,1988 Written Answers 280 or domiciled in Gujarat State. (d) the steps being taken to cut down petrol consumption? (c) To encourage recruitment of local candidates, all the posts in Class III and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Class IV category except the posts in the pay MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- scala of Rs.725-1480 (the highest posts in RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUlT) (a) and Class III ) are filled in from amongst the (b). The crude import plan involving term and candidates sponsored by the local emplcy- spot purchases for 1988-89 is yet to be ment exchanges. A representative of the finalised. State Government is invariably associated with the selection committee which inter- (c) The consumption of petrol in the views the candidates sponsored by thalocal country has beE>n incr9asing. The net foreign employment exchanges., exchange expenditure on import of crude oil and petroleum products during 1987-88 is (d) There have been some representa· estimated to be of the order of As. 3700 tions from the local political leaders to the crores, The Import Plan for 1988-89 is yet to State Government on this issue. be finalised.

Spot Purchases of 011 and Petroleum (d) The economic use of petrol is Products sought to be achieved through both the pricing policy and introduction of fuel-effi- 149. DR. B.L. SHAILESH: cient automobiles. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: Mid· Term Appraisal of Seventh Plan SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: 011 Production.

Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND 150. DR. B.L.SHAILESH: Will the Min- NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: ister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) whether following the recent fall in prices in the spot market for crude oil and the (a) whether the mid-term appraisal of indications that the prices may decline fur- Seventh Plan has revealed an extremely ther, Government have signed any term slow growth rate of oil production, which is contracts and made much higher spot pur- unable to ,offset the annual growth in con- chases of oil and petroleum products for the sumption; next financial year as compared to the cur- rent year; (b) If so, whether it would lead to in- creased dependence on imported oil, (b) if so, the quantity and monetary thereby causing a heavy burden on foreign value thereof as per latest projections; exchange resources;and

(c) whether petrol consumption in the (c) the steps being taken to meet this country is shooting up in the wake of mush- situation and step up oil exploration in the rooming of automobiles and scooters involv- country? Ing huge foreign exchange outflow; if so, the estimated foreign exchange involved in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 1987-88 oil import and that anticipated dur- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- Ing the next financial year; and RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT):(a) The 281 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Written AnSWBrs 282 growth rate in indigenous oil production (c) whether some of thesa collaboration would be less than the growth rate in con- contracts are production sharing; sumption of petroleum products in the coun- try during the Seventh Plant period. (d) if so, the implications. thereof and their impact on the cost of exp~oration. devel- (b) Yes, Sir. opment and production; and

(c) Besides steps directed at demand (e) whether they commit the Govern- ,management and consumption of petro- ment in any manner to cushion the oil com .. leum products, the following three pronged panies against loses on account of price strategy has been evolved to intensify explo- crashes and fluctuations? ration in the country; THE MfNISTER OF STATE OF THE - intensifying exploratory activity MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM & NATURAL by national oil companies. GAS (SHAI BRAHMA DUn) (a) to (d). So far five contracts have been signed by the - intensive integrated exploration Government of 'ndialONGC wiht foreign oil programmes in selected basins companies for exploration and exploitation with Soviet assistance. of petroleum in the following blocks:-

- offering selected blocks in off- Nam9 of Block Contract sign9d with shore areas for exploration by foreign oil companies. KG-OS-I Chevron International Ltd. & Contract to Foreign Companies for 011 Tex aco Exploration Exploration India Inc.

151. DR. B.L.SHAILASH: KG-OS-VII do DR. A.K.PATEL. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: P-OS-II do SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- JEE: KG-OS-IV International Petro~ SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: leum (Bermuda) Ltd. SHRI PARAS RAM BHARD- WAJ: KK-OS-VI BHP Petroleum (India)lnc. WiU the Minister of PETROLEUM & NATU- RAL GAS be pleased to state: Tha main faaturas of thasa contracts are:-

(a) whether Government have recently 1 . ForEtign oil companies will ex- signed any contracts with the oil giants for oil plore for petroleum at their own exploration; if so, the details of the contracts risk & cost. and the terms thereof. 2 If there is 8 commercial discov- (b) how far these will enhance oil pro- ery, ONGC will have the option duction and related investments in highly to participate forty percent in depressed world oil market; development and production of 283 Written Answers F~RUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 284

the discovery. Before any discoveries are made by the foreign oil companies, it is not possible to 3. HONGC decides to participate, it state the enhancement in oil production on will contribute 40% of develop- account of the contracts. ment and production costs and remaining 60% will be born by (9) No, Sir. the foreign oil companies. Workers engaged by contractors In 4. ONGC will be entitled to the coal Mines. corresponding share of oil pro- duced for its participation. 152. SHRI RAM BAHADUR SINGH: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to 5. The foreign oil company's share state: of oil will be available to the Government at international (a) whether Government have em- market price till India reaches ployed contract labour for production and self-sufficiency. distribution of coal in the coal mines;

6. After recovery of costs, the con- (b) if so, the number of workers en- tractors will share petroleum gaged by contractors in each coal mine, with the Government on a sliding State-wise; and scale basis. Government's share of petroleum will increase (c) whether the workers engaged by as the economics of the project contractors have been given all the facilities improves. enjoyed by workers directly emplo led by mines? 7. The contractor will pay tax at the rate of 50% on its profits. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- 8. ONGC will not contribute to TRY OF ENERGY (SHRt C.K.JAFFER exploration costs but it will be SHARIEF}:(a) No. Sir. associated with the foreign company's work right from the (b)and (c). Do not arise. beginning. New Strategy for Power Development- 9. The entire data acquired by the foreign companies will be avail- 153. SHRI RAM BAHADUR able to ONGC. SINGH:Wili the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state:

10. The assets acquired for perma- (a) whetherthere is a move to adopt an~I' nent use in petroleum new strategy for,power development; operations would become ONGC's property once the cost (b) If so, the salient features thereof; recovery for slich assets is and claimed by the foreign oil compa- nies, without any further pay- (c) when the new strategy is likely to be ment by ONGC. mada effective? 285 Wrln,n Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 286

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE which is pending. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA (d) General policy guidelines have ROHTAGI) :(a) to (c). There is no move to been issued- in January, 1987 on the wage adopt any new strategy for power develop- revision in public sector undertakings. ment. However, it is proposed to take ad- vance action du ring the Seventh Plan period Increase In price of Petrol and Petro- on certain power projects which are to yfeld leum Products benefits in the Eighth Plan. 155. SHRI JAGANNATH Workers Strike In West Bengal Based PATTNAIK: Central Public Sector Engineering and SHRI YASHWANTRAO Jute Industrial Undertakings GADAKH PATIL: SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI 154. SHAI AAM BAHADUR SINGH: KHAN: Will the Ministerof INDUSTRY be pleased to SHRI E.AVYAPU REDDY: state: SHRI UTTAM RATHOD: SHRI MATILAL HANSDA: (a) whether Government are aware that the workers in the West 8engal based Cen- Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND tral Public Sector engineering and jute in- NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: dustrial undertakings are on strike; (a) whether the prices of petrol and (b) if so, since when and.what are their petroleum products have been increased demands; recently;

(c) whether one of the demands relates (b) if so, the details thereof and the to payments of interim relief at par with other reasons therefor; central public sector undertakings;and (c) its likely impact on consumers and (d) if so, what action has been taken in country's economy; this regard so as to streamline the payment to workers engaged in all the Central Public (d) the estimated additional revenue sector undertakings? earnings as a result of this increase;

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (e) whether any principles have been J. VENGAL AAO):(a) to(c) . The unionised laid down for fixing the price or these are employees of West Bengal based public increased on ad hock basis. sector engineering units and the National Jute Manufacturing Corporation (NJMC) (f) whether as a result of this price hike, had gone on strike from 14th December, petrol in India has become costliest in the 1987 demanding payment of interim relief at world; par with some other Central Public sector undertakings. The Engineering workers (9) if so, to what extent; and have since called off the strike from 29th January, 1988. the strike in NJMC has not (g) whether any steps ara being taken been called eff. The NJMC employees have to reduce the consumption of these products filed a writ petition in the Calcutta High Court in the country; if so, the details thereof? 287 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 288

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ment Departments and Undertakings to cut MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- down costs and consumption related to RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA QUIT) :(a) and petroleum products. (b). the ex-storage price of petrol only was increased by Rs. 1000IKL with effect form Completion of Vlndhyachal Power 9.1.t38 This has been done in view ·of the Station, Madhya Pradesh steep increase in the rate of consumption of patrol. This increase will also help conserve 156. SHRI KEYUR SHUSHAN: Will the foreign exchange. Minister of ENERGY be pleased to sta~e

(c) While the impact of this price on the (a) whetherVindhyachal Power Station overall increase in the wholesale price index of the National Thermal Power Corporation is estimated to be insignificant, it is expected in Sidhi district has been completed and to curb consumption of petrol and encour- commissioned: age its efficient use. (b) whether the National Thermal (d) estimates of earnings, if any, will be Power Corporation has delayed the con- krlow only after studying its impact on de- struction of electric supply lines from Vindhy- mand for a reasonable period of time. achaf Power Station to Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra and Gujarat; (e) The pricing policy is based on principles striving to achieve socio-eco- (c) whether Madhya Pradesh and the nomic objectives like subsidising certain Western region, which includes Maharash- products for the use of the weaker sections, tra, Gujarat and Goa, are not being supplied promote inter-fuel substitution, conserve the their share of electricity fr()m Vindhyachal use of hydrocarbon resources and also Power Station and instead it is being di- generate resources for the development of verted to the Northern region; and oil industry. (d) the time by which the National (f). No. Sir, Thermal Power Corporation will be able to supply electricity from Vindhyachal Thermal (g) Does not arise. Power Station to the Western region and the details thereof? (h) Apart from fiscal measures, various other measures have been identified"aken THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to conserve petroleum products. These in- DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- clude replacement of inefficient oil fired boil- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ers with efficient ones, fuel oil utilisation ROHTAGI) (a) The first unit of the Vindhy- studies in industrial units, studies in State achal Super Thermal Power Project Stage- Transport Organisations, for adopting more I (6x210 MW) was synchronised in October, efficient practices, energy audit studies in 1987 and is envisaged to commence com- major consuming industries, incentive by mercial operation in April, 19S8 by which financial institutions to encourage conserva- time the Vindhyachal-Korba line is expected tion in petroleum products, development of to be ready The project is programmed to be fuel efficient equipment and devices viz. completed during the Seventh Plan period karosene and LPG stoves, promotion of alternative fuels lika.soft coke, biogas, solar (b) No Sir. Work on the Vindhyachal- anergy etc. and impressing upon aU Govern- Korba and Vindhyachal Jabalpur lines was 289 Wn"ttsn Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Writffln Answers 290

started as soon as possible, after forest taken up with that allocation; clearance was accorded. (c) the new power projects proposed to (c) and (d). The associated transmis- be implemented in Orissa during the remain- ,$ion system is expected to be progressively ing period of the Seventh Five Year Pian; commissioned by March, 1989, matching and the power evacuation requirement of the project. In the meanwhile, the first unit has (d) the details thereof? been synchronised with the Northern grid. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Allocation for Power Schemes of DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- Orissa TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (8) During the year 1985-86 and 157. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will the 1986-87. the actual utilisation of Plan funds Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: by Oriss~ for Power Projects amounted to be Rs. 123.10 crores. For the year 1987-88, the (a) the plan outlay allocation made for Plan allocation was Rs .118.48 crores. power schemes of Orissa during the Sev- enth Plan period so far; (b) to (d). The details are given in the (b) the details -fa the power projects statement below:-

STATEMENT

Approved and ongoing scheme for benefits during 7th Plan

S.No Name of the Capacity (MW) Scheme

1 2' 3

1. Rengali H.F Project, 2x 50 Stage-I

2. Upper Holab H.E. 3x80 Project

3. Upper Indravati H.E. 4x 150 Project

4. Hirakud H.E. Project 1 x 37.5 7th Unit

5. Potteru Small hydel 2x3 Project

6. Upper Kobal H.E 1 x 80 Project, 4th Unit 291 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 292

1 2 3

7. Rengali H.E. Project, 3x 50 Stage-II

II. New Approved Scheme for benefeit in 8th Plan

1. lb Thermal Power 4x20 Project

Computerization Programma In Postal (c) i) Karnatak Postal Circle-For the Circles work of postal Life Insurance

158. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will ii) Tamil Nadu Circle-For Money the Minister of COMMUNICATIONSlbe Order reconciliation work pleased to state: iii) Delhi Circle- For Money Order (a) whether his Ministry have identified reconciliation work. areas for computorization; iv) Delhi Circle-For Savings Bank (b) if so, the details thereof; Accounting Work

(c) the names and the number of Postal v) Postal Directorate - For Interna- Circles in which computers have been in- tional Mail Accounting. stalled; and (d) The work of computers which have (d) the details of future computerisation been installed in the various circles as programme for the purpose of improving mentioned above, are at different stages of postal services, if any? progress. Although the areas of application have been identified the office in which such THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND applications will be made in future have not MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI been decided upon. The extension of the VASANT SATHE) : (a) Yes, Sir. computer in other offices and in the above mentioned applications will depend upon: (b) the Department of posts has identi- fied the following areas of postal operation i) The performance of the systems and accounting for use of computer; already installed and evaluation thereol i) Money Order reconciliation work ii) Availability of funds.

ii)' Savings Bank Accounting work. iii) Development of trained man- power in the offices for using the iii) Postal Life Insurance work. computer. iv) Attitudinal changes in the staff in iv) International Mail Accounting the use of computers for their Work. work. 293 Written Answ91S PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 294

Dialogue with Traders on Reduction of Prices of Consumer Goods (c) the effect thereof on the consumers and the housing activity? 159. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE be pleased to state: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- (a) whether his Ministry had recently TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). any dialogue with the traders in the matter of Cement Manufacturers' Association have reduction of prices and curbing the menace made representation seeking reduction in of artificial shortage of consumer goods; levy obligation and increase in the retention price of levy cement due to cost escalation in (b) if so, the details of such dialogues; power tariff, price of coal, movement of coal by Railways, increase in the D.A. rates etc. (c) the details of items, good or com- No decision has so far been taken by Gov- modities taken up for discussion; and ernment in this regard,

(d) the results thereof? Rise In Prices of Vital Drugs THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- 161. SHRI YASHWANTRAOGADAKH PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) to (d). Since PATIL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be August, 1987 ·Ministry of Food and Civil pleased to state: Supplies held meetings with the representa- tives of Industry & Trade in respect of cere- als, pulses, edible oil, vanaspati, soap, (a) whether Government have recently maida, tea and butter. At various meetings raised the prices of some vital drugs; representatives of Industry & Trade were urged to contain price-rise and reduce them (b) if 50, the details thereof and the wherever possible and improve their availa- reasons therefor; and bility all over the country. Some reduction in prices was affected in respect of refined (c) the effect on the consumers? edibleoils, vanaspati, soap and packet tea. The availability of essential commodities is generally satisfactory. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. Cement Prices (b) and (c). The details of prices of bulk 160. SHAI YASHWANTRAO GAOAKH drugs notified under opeo, 1987 are given PATIL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be in the statement below. The details of formu- pleased to state: lations involved are quite voluminous and time and efforts required for collection of the (a) whether Government have under same will not be com mansurate with the consideration the question of raising the results likely to be achieved. The change in cement retention price and reducing the levy MAPE has resulted in reduction of prices of quota thereof; some formulations upto 12.50/0 and in- creases for some other formulations upto a % (b) if so, the details thereof; and maximum of 43 • 295 Writtsn AnSW91S FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Wrilt.n AnswSlS 296 STATEMENT

Sl. Name of the Bulk Drug Name of the Company Price fixed under No. DPCO,87

1 2 3 4

1. Sulphadiazine 461.00

2. Benzathine Penicillin G 1639.80

3. PAS Sodium 129.00

4. Quinine Sulphate Govt. Quinine Fact., W. Bengal 2182.00 , Govt. Quinine Fact., T. Nadu 1232.00

5. Quinidin Sulphate Govt. Quinine Facty., W. Bengal 4067.00

Govt. Quinine Facty., T. Nadu 2892.00

6. Pseudo Ephedrine Hcl. 1621.00

7. Pseudo Ephedrine Sulphate 1529.00

8. Sulphadimidine 258.40

9." Theophylline 224.36

10. Prednisolone 22420.76

11. Prednisolone Acetate 26451.33

12. Hydrocortisone 19143.59

13. Hydrocortisone Acetate 17572.76

14. Sodium PAS to.P.L. 130.00

Biochemicals, Hyderabad 145.00 & Synthetic Products Weighted average prices for 138.00 formulations

15. Calcium Benzoyl PAS 129.00

16. Acetazolam ide 745.00

17. Ephedrine Hydrochloride 1016.00 297 Written Answ91S PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Wrlttsn Answ9fS 298 Implementation of Drug Prices for Non- Petro-Chern ieals. Scheduled Formulations II. FORMULATIONS 162. SHRIYASHWANTRAOGADAKH PATIL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be All formulation~ covered under Third pleased to state: Schedule are price controlled. In case of. drugs appearing under both the First and (a) whether Government have issued Second Schedules, the formulations dos- guidelines for the implementation of drug age forms (single ingredient or combina- prices for non-scheduled formulations; tion). shall be considered as Category I formulations if they are recommended for (b) if so. the details thereof; and use in the treatment of the disease under which the drug is included under First (c) the effect on the prices for the Schedule. AU other formulations will be cons~mers? considered as Category II formulations.

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRt In case of formulations of Scheduled J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c). Necessary bulk drug and non-scheduled bulk drugs. the guidelines for implementation of the various drug will be considered to be price eon-' provisions of the DPeO, 1987 have bgen trolled. if the scheduled bulk forms major issued by this Ministry on 9th December, therapeutic ingredient. 1987. Details are given in the statement below. The guidelines are only in the nature All combinations containing Vitamin (s) of clarification of the provisions of the DPCO. wil.1 be treated as Category II formulations.

STATEMENT The final authority to decide whether a formulation is a Scheduled formulation or Guidelines for Implementation of Various otherwise and its Categorisation rests with Provisions of opeo, 1987 the Government. For this purpose, all manu- facturers importers shall submit a list of I. BULK DRUGS formulations (licensed to manufacture under Drugs & Cosmetics Act) with proper classifi- The prices of all bulk drugs specified in cation within 45 days from the date of issue the First and Second Schedules are con- in case of existing products and 45 days from trolled except Vitamins. The drugs include the date of grant of permission under Drugs Salts. Esters, derivatives etc. However. till & Cosmetics Act in case of new products. the prices of bulk drugs are revised as per the OpeD, 1987, the bulk drug prices an- nounced under OPCD. 1979 will continue. III. APPLICATION FOR PRICE REVISION

Companies applying for the fixatton of All applications for .price fixation/revi- prices of bulk drugs either as a result of sion and the ~epr9sentations subm itted changes in the category of drugs or a drug against the prices fixed under OPCO. 1979 which is price decontrolled under OPCO, stand disposed of.The prices fixed under 1979 becoming tlia price controlled under opec, 1979 prevail. In case the manufac- OPCO. 1987 or otherwise. may make appli- turer. desire to have reviMd price' for .uch cation. to the BICP in form· No. I under formulations, thay ahould aubmIt fresh appli .. intimation to the Deptt. of Chern ieals and cation. under the provfefon. of OPCO, 1987. 299 Written AnswelS FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Wrinen Answers 300 The manufacturers are free to revise as to whether North-East region can remove the prices of non-scheduled formulations the shortage of indigenous petroleum pro- subject to following the procedure provided duction in the country. under Paragraph 11. They are required to furnish information on cost details to the ONGC and Oil India Limited are already Government. carrying out an exploration programme in the North-Eastern Region in a well con- IV. MAPE ceived manner.

For the purpose of regulating MAPE, Unlicensed Drug Companies the Government will grant 75% for Category I formulations and 1000/0 for Category II 164. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: formulations. Will the Ministerof INDUSTRYbe pleased to state: Petroleum Production III .'ltorth-East Region (a) the number of drug companies functioning in the country; 163. SHRI R.P. DAS: SHRI ANIL BASU: (b) the number of foreign drug compa- SHRI AJOY BISWAS: nies among them;

Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (c) whether it is a fact that a number of NATURAL GAS be pleased to refer to the unlicensed drug manufacturers are func- news item 'N-E floating on oil' appearing in tiqning in the country and they are manufac- the Times of India dated 4th January, 1988 turing sub-standard drugs; and State: (d) if so, the steps taken by Government (a) whether it is a fact that the North~ to check such companies and the details of East region alone can remove the shortage the action taken against them; and of indigenous petroleum production in the country before the end of the present cen- (e) the number of unlicensed compa- tury; nies against whom cases are pending in Bihar and Uttar Pradesh and the names of (b) if so, whether there is any proposal drugs being manufactured by theml, to augment oil exploration in that region; and THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (c) the details thereof? J. VENGAL RAO): (a) To the extent informa- tion is available the total number of drug THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE manufacturing companies in the country is MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- 16,002 as on 1.4.87. RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) to (c). The news item refers to the personal views (b) At present there are seven FERA expressed by an officer working in Oil India companies. Limited. (c) to (e). The manufacture, sale and Considering the highly probabalistic distribution of drugs is being looked after by nature of oil exploration, it will not be pos- the State Drugs Controllers who are the sible at this a stage to say, with any certitue, licensing authorities. 301 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 302 Upgradatlon of Branch Post Offices make up its losses; and and Sub Post Offices In Districts of Bihar (c) if so, the results of the steps ta~en by the Coal India Ltd. and the amount of losses 165. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: which are yet to be made up? Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be ple~sed to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- (a) the names of branch post offices TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K. JAFFER and sub-post offices in Gopalganj, Sewan SHARIEF): (a) While considering the ques- and Chhapra districts of Bihar which are tion of revision of coal prices, the Planning likely to be upgraded; Commission had also been consulted.

(b) the time by which these would be (b) and (c). In view of the fact that Coal upgraded; and India Ltd. has to function in a regime of administered prices, it was not the expecta- (c) the number of new branch post tion of the Government that it would avoid offices opened in Gopalganj district since losses in 1987 having regard to the rising January, 1987 till date and the, number of trend in wages and other input costs. How- . such post offices proposed to be opened? ever, Coal India Ltd. is being encouraged to reduce the cost of production by improving THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND the efficiency of operations by reducing MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI administrative expenses, by better utilisa- VASANT SATHE): (a) At present, there are tion of men and machinery and by introduc- no sub or branch post offices in the 3 districts tion of better management practices and which are eligible for upgradation according technologies. The measures being taken in to the prescribed criteria. this behalf are expected to improve the fi- nancial performance of the coal companies (b) Does not arise. but it is difficult to quantify the effect in terms of reduction in losses as these are al$.o (c) No new branch post offices have affected by increase in wages and cost of been opened in Gopalganj since January, other inputs. 1987. However, two post offices have been sanctioned, one each at Bhathwa and Izra in Gopalganj District. Installation of Generators In Andhra Pradesh Hike in Prices of Coal by Coal India Ltd. 168. SHRf V. TULSJRAM: Will the 166. SHAI KAI I PRASAD PANDEY: Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (a) whether Government of Andhra Pradesh have approached Union Govern- (a) whether the Planning Commission m~nt for installation of generator to produce approved the proposal for recent hike in coal power in the State in view of power shortage; prices; (b) if so, whether Union Government (b) whether Government had sug- have issued necessary approval in this re- gested in 1987 to the Coal India Limited to gard; 303 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 304 (c) whether Ministry of Petroleum and 011 and Gas under the Bombay High Natural Gas have also confirmed the availa- Reserves bility of natural gas for installation of gas turbines; if so, the details thereof; and 169. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL_, (d) if no decision has been taken the GAS be pleased to state: reasons for the delay? (a) whether oil and gas has been dis- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE covered under the Bombay High reserves DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- recently; TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (d). The following propos- (b) the estimated quantity of the oil and als in regard to gas-based power projects gas discovered and the quality ther~of; and have been received in the Central Electricity Authority from the Andhra Pradesh authori- (c) the extent to which such a discovery ties:- would be helpful in bringing down the price of petroleum and its by-products in the coun- (i) Gas-based thermal power sta- try? tion (Combined Cycle) at Nar- sapur-Razole (3 x 33 MW) and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PTEROLEUM AND NATU- (ii) Mobile gas turbine SGts at RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM DAIT): (a) and (b). Yenuguvani Lanka (3 x 33 MW). Oil has recently been discovered in the basement of Bombay High field (BH-36). The Ministry of Petroleum and Natural During initial testing the well flowed oil at the Gas have informed the Government of rate 1000 barrels per day through 1/2" Andhra Pradesh in regard to the availability Choke. API gravity of oil is 38°. of about 0.4 mcmd of gas, which would be made available by the end of 1989-90, for (c) Although discovery has brightened the proposed power plant at Narsapur-Ra- the prospects of additional production from zole. This project has since been techno- Bombay High, its exact potential and the economically appraised by the Central Elec- overall impact would be known only after·j tricity Authority. The State authorities have further exploration and assessment by drill- to indicate the availability of land for the ing more locations. proposed power plant and confirm the im- plementation of timely and adequate flood Exploration by ONGC In the Bay of protection measures as also compliance of Bengal the conditions stipulated by the State Pollu- tion Control Board and the Department of 170. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the Environment. Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state the details of suc- The proposed scheme in respect of cess achieved so far and the estimated installation of mobile gas turbine sets at availability of oil and gas in respect of the Yenuguvani Lanka could be techno-eco- exploration of oil and gas in the Bay of nomically appraised after the availability of Bengal on the coast of Andhra Pradesh? all inputs. including gas and water, has been confirmed, site details have been settled and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE requisite clearances have been obtained. MINISTRY OF PTEAOLEUM AND NATU· ~05 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 306

RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DATT): Oil and Setting up Vanaspatl Plants In Orl... gas has been discovered in 4 prospects (G- 1, G-2, GS-S and GS-1S) and a total of 13 172. DR. KRUPASINDHU SHOI: million tonnes of oil and 4925 million cubic SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: metres of g:lS resources have been estab- lished as on 1.1.1987, in Krishna Godavari Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL sup- Offshore basin in the Bay of Bengal. These PLIES be pleased to state: discoveries are, however, still in explorationl delineation stage. (a) whether some proposals to set up Vanaspati plants in Kalahandi, 80lan9ir and Phulabani districts in Orissa are pending for Consumer Councils In States clearance with his Ministry;

171. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the Min- (b) whether his Ministry has examined ister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be these proposals; and pleased to state: (c) if so, the steps taken to grant letters (a) whether Union Government have of intent to the concerned persons/State made further effol1$ to set up consumer Government Undertakings to set up Vanas- protection councils at the State level for the pati plants? Promotion of consumer education and wel- fare; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) to (c). Some (b) if so, the details thereof? applications for setting up of Vanaspati plants in districts like Kalahandi, Phulabani, etc. of Orissa were received. The applica .. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tions were examined and were prima facie MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- rejected. PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) and (b). States and Union Territory Administrations have been repeatedly urged to set up statu- Kelkar Committee for Removal of tory institutions under the Consumer Protec- Anomalies under Category-II tion Act, 1986 including Consumer Protec- tion Councils. ·In this regard meetings with 173. SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: Food Ministers and senior officers of States/ SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAt: UTs were held in February 1987 and July 1987. The matter has been further pursued Will the Ministerof INDUSTRYbe pleased to through severalleUers, telex, telegrams, etc. state: As per information available, so far, the States of Andhra Pradesh, Assam, Bihar, (a) whether Kelkar Committee has Gujarat, Goa, Madhya Pradesh, Maharash- been kept alive for another six months to tra, Mizoram, Nagaland, Rajasthan, 'Sikkim, remove the anomalies in identification of the Tamil Nadu, Uttar Pradesh. West 8engal Drug Price Control Order, 1987: and Union Territories of Andaman and Nico- bar Islands, Chandigarh, Delhi La- (b) if so, the number of representations kahadweep and Pondicherry have set up the received from Industry, Consumers Asso- Consumer Protection Councils. ciation, Medical Association and others; and 307 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 308 (c) the details of representations, and (b) anQ. (c). Details of the representa- the action taken on each? tions received from the industry I organisa- tion/association and Members of Parliament are given in Statement I, II and III respec- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI tively below. The representation have been J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. forwarded to the Committee.

STATEMENT-I

List of Companies from whom Representations were Received by Kelkar Committee

51. Name of the Company Drug in respect of which the company has No. represented

1 2 ·3

1. MIs. Themis Chemicals Ltn. Cyproheptadine He!.

2. MIs. Duphar Interfran Ltd. Paracetamol

3. Mis. IPCA Labs. P. Ltd. Metoclopramide

4. Mis. CIPLA Ltd. Piroxican and Salbutamol

5. MIs. Wockhardt Ltd. Oextropropoxyphene

6. MIs. May & Baker India Ltd. Prochlorperazine and Metronidazole

7. Mis. FOC Pvt. Ltd. Oral Rehydration Salts.

8. MIs. Walter Bvshnel P. Ltd. Interpretation of Para 7 of opec. 1987

9. MIs. Burroughs Welcome I Ltd. Paracetamol and Pseudo Ephedrine

10. MIs. Farmsol Pharmaceuticals Paracetmol Gujarat P. Ltd.

11. MIs. Cadila Labs. P. Ltd. Timolol

12. M/s. Nicholas Labs I Ltd. Sulphacetamide

13. Mis. Pharmaceutical Sulphacetamide Works Ltd.

14. MIs. Unique Chemicals Metron idazole

15. Mis. SKF Ltd. Trifluoperazine 309 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 310

1 2 3

16. M/s. Lupin Labs. Rifampicin

17. M/s. Ranbaxy Labs Diazepam

18. Mis. Merind Amiloride & Amitriptyline

19. Mis. Atul Products Ltd. lodochlorohydroxyquinolene

20. Mis. Searle (I) Ltd. Diphenoxylate Hc!.

STATEMENT-II

. List of Organisations/Associations from whom representations were received by Kelkar Committee

51. Name of the Organisa.tions Representation regarding No.

1. Indian Medical Association The Organisations have made general comments on the exclusion criteria 2. Voluntary Health Association adopted by the Kelkar Committee of India and the Cetegorisation of drugs

3. Indian Drugs Manufacturers' Association

4. Organisation of Pharmaceuticals Producers of India

5. TARAI Farmers Association These· Organisations have represented that Menthol should be excluded from price control.

6. All India Mentha Industry (Small Scale) Association

STATEMENT·III

List of Members of Parliament who represented to Kelkar Committee

51. Name of the Member of Parliament Representation regarding No.

1 2 3

1. Shri Rafique Alam General Comments on the exclusion principle adopted by the Kelkar Committee and 311 Written Answ91S FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 312

1 2 3

2. Shri Hari Krishna Shastri categoristion of durgs and comments, on drugs like Diazepam, Vitamins, Paracetamol Menthol, etc.

3. Shri Harish Rawat 4. Dr. Chandra Shekhar Tripathi 5. Shri Raj Kumar Rai S. Shri Rajani Ranjan Sahu 7. Shri Sarfraz Ahmed 8. Shri Tariq Anwar 9. Shri Ganga Ram 10. Shri Banwari lal Purohit

11. Dr. Prabhat Kumar Mishra

12. Ms. Pushpa Divi Singh

13. Shri Kesharao Pardhi

14. Shri Ajay Mushran

15. Shri Bhola Raut

16. Shri Ram Pyare Ranika

17. Shri Bharat Singh

18. Sh. Balwant Singh Ramoowalia

19. Shri Shankar Singh Veghela

20. Shri Uday Singhrao Gaikward

21. Shri P.R. Kumaramangalam

22. Dr. (Smt.) Sarojini Mahishi

23. Shri Chandra Sekhar Murthy

24. Shri Asutosh Law

25. Shri Utt.m R.thad 313 WtlttsnAnswBIS PHALGUNA 4. 1909 (SAKA ) Written An..... 314 Closing of Manmad Sorting Office In stalled during the current financial year? Maharashtra THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 174. SHRI SURESH KURUP: Will the MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased VASANT SATHE): Tho names of the dis- to state: tricts in Haryana where long distance Public Telephones will be installed during current (a) whether Government have decided financial year are given below:- to close down the Manmad Sorting Office in Maharashtra; and 1. Ambala

b) if so, the details thereof? 2. Karnal

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 3. Kurukshetra MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir. 4. Rohtak

(b) Does not arise, in view of answer to 5. Jind Question (a) above. 6. Hissar Maintenance of Telecommunication Equlpments 7. Sirsa

175. SHAI SURESH KURUP: Will the 8. Bhiwani Minister of COMMUN ICATIONS be pleased to state: 9. Mohindergarh

(a) whether Government have decided 10.Gurgaon to do away with maintenance of telecommu- nication equipment in the country; and 11. Faridabad.

(b) if so, the circumstances leading Installed Capacity of Power In Stat•• Government to take drastic decision? 177. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI state: VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir.- (a) the installed capacity of power in (b) The question does not arise in view different States at the end of the Sixth Five of reply to part (a) above: Year Plan;

Installation of Long distance Tele- (b) the steps taken to increase the phones In Districts of Haryana installed capacity in different States during the Seventh Plan; 176. CH. RAM PARAKASH: Will the Minister of COMMUN ICATIONS be pleased Cc) the progress made in increasing to state the names of districts in Haryana power generation in Orissa and other States where long distance telephones will be in- during the Seventh Five Year Plan; and 315 Writt9n AnsW9rs FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answ918 31 e

(d) the Central assistance extended to 1 2 3 different States for that purpose? 3. Jammu & Kashmir 206.18 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS· 4. Punjab 2304.69 TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) The installed capacity of 5. Rajasthan 1180.05 power in different States at the end of the Sixth Five Year Plan is given in Statement-I 6. Uttar Pradesh 4056.27 below. 7. Gujarat 3100.20 (b) To increase the installed capacity in different States, a capacity addition of 22245 8. Madhya P~adesh 2680.50 MW in planned during the Seventh Plan. The State-wise details are given in Statement-II 9. Maharashtra 6004.30 below. 10. Goa (c) The generation of power for the country as a whole during the first three 11. Andhra Pradesh 3200.43 years of the Seventh Plan is given below:- 12. Karnataka 2219.80 In billion Units 13. Karala 1011.50 1985-86 170.04 14. Tamil Nadu 25C9.00 1986-87 187.6 15. Bihar 1374.48 1987-88 166.74 (upto end of Jan., 16. Orissa 1134.67 1988) 17. West Bengal 2337.60 (d) Central assistance is generally given to the States as a block and not for a 18. D.V.C. 1631.50 particular Sector. 19. Sikkim 17.00 STATEMENT·. 20. Assam 425.49 Installed Capacity of power in different States at the end of the Sixth Five Year Plan 21. Manipur 22.79

No. Name of the Installed Capacity 22. Meghalaya 133.66 State (MW) 23. Tripura 21.34 1 2 3 24. Nagaland 5.12 1. Haryana 1311.21 25. Arunachal Pradesh 15.72 2. Himachal Pradesh 134.02 26. Mizoram 6.57 317 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA') Written Answers 318

STATEMENT-II , 2 Capacity Addition planned in the different States Eastern Regjon during the Seventh Plan Bihar 478.9 Name of State Capacity Addition (MW) Orissa 483.5

1 2 Sikkim 3.5

Northern Region West Bengal 814.7

Haryana 488.0 D.V.C. 760.0

Himachal Pradesh 143.5 Andaman & Nicobar 12.0

Jammu & Kashmir 76.0 Central Sector 630.0

Punjab 767.4 North-Eastern Region

Rajasthan 385.1 Assam 285.0

Uttar Pradesh 1794.0 Manipur 6.9

Central Sector 2995.0 Nagaland 1.0

Western Region Tripura 21.0

Gujarat 1085.0 Arunachal Pradesh 9.6

Madhya Pradesh 947.0 Mizoram 5.9

Maharashtra 1739.5 N.E.C. 100.0

Central Sector 2760.0 Supply of Gas to Fertilizer Factories Southern Region 178. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RAWAT: Andhra Pradesh 838.5 Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Karnataka 593.25 (a) whether soma fertilizer factories Kerala 530.0 have not baen commissioned even after their completion due to shortage of gas; Tamil Nadu 1416.0 (b) if so, the reasons for non-avaiiabiJit} Central Sector 2075.0 of gas to these factories; 319 Written Answ91S FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 320 (c) whether Government would make installation, especially the clearance of the arrangements for early supply of gas to backlog; and· these fadories; and (e) If not, the reasons therefor? (d) if not, the reasons, therefor? THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI MINIST~Y OF PEtROLEUM AND NATU- VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) No, Sir. (b) The number of Long Distance and local Public Call Offices and Exchanges (b) Does not arise in view of (a) above. pending for installation in Himachal Pradesh are given below. Their names are given in (c) Arrangements are made for supply the statement below. of gas in accordance with the rsquirements of the fertilizer factories. (i) Pending for installation more than 3 years. (d) does not arise. LDPT Locat Combined Exchan- Installation of Long distance and Local P.C.O. office on ges Public Call Offices In Himachal Pradesh more

180. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- 5 7 4 5 ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- TIONS be pleased to state: (ii) More than 2 years.

(a) whether a number of Long Distance 7 1 1 3 and Local Public Call Offices, Combined Offices (Telegraph Offices) on Morse Code (iii) More Than 1 years. and Telephone Exchanges sanctioned dur- ing the Sixth Five Year Plan and the first two 1 5 -Nil- 9 years of the Seventh Five Year Plan have (c) to (e). In view of the difficult terrain not so far been installed; and large quantity of stores required in most of the cases, execution of every project (b) if so, the number of each one of within one year of its sanction has not been these officeslExchanges pending for instal- possible. However, efforts are being made lation for over (i) 3 years (ii) 2 years and (iii) to make available the necessary resources 1 year alongwith the names of those pending to complete the sanctioned schemes during in Himachal Pradesh, District-wise; 1988. STATEMENT (c) if so, the reasons for this delay and whether any programme for the installation LOPTs Pending for installation of such facilities within one year of their More than 3 years. sanction would be drawn up; District LDP T Date of Sanction (d) if so, the brief outline of the pro- gramme for the remaining years of the Sev- 2 3 enth Ptan and steps taken to expedite the Unna Bathri 8-84 321 Written AnswelS PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAkA ) Written Answers 322

1 2 3 1 2 3

Kuthera 1-85 Hamir- Badher 9-84 pur Kangra Lag roo 8-84 Hathol 11-84 Adhwani 12-84 Bilas- Daslehra 11-84 Thathel 5-84 pur

More than 2 years. More than 2 years.

Kangra Ladora 2-86 Unna Thakrala 3-85

Hamir- Mahal 3-85 More than 1 year. pur Kangra Indpur 5-86 Dhaned 2-86 Jarotkhas 6-86 Majhin 2-85 Rajianakher 8-86 Unna Lalheri 2-86 Spail 1-87 Bilaspur Salwar 10-85 Hamir- luddar 11-86 Solan Panjhera 2-86 pur Mahadev

More than 1 year. COS ON MORSE

Mandi Basahi 10-86 More than 3 years.

Local p.e.os. Bilaspur Lehri Sarail 7-84

More than 3 years. Hatwar 7-84

Kangra Bhagotla 3-83 Barmana 1-85

Shivnath 8-82 Hamir- Bhareri 7-84 .pur Unna Sagnai 1-84 More than 2 years.

Marmari 11-84 Hamir- Sera 5-85 pur 323 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 324

Telephone Exchanges More than 3 years.

Q.l~lt:&.t ~~,b.aD.g,1 tali Q,t s.aakliQD.

2 3

Mandi Katola 3-84 Final payment not received.

Kangra Bohana 10-84 Final payment not received.

Jorbar 10-84 Final payment not received.

Hamirpur Kalal 2-85 Final payment not received.

Bharoli Kalan 2-85 Final payment not received on 11-87.

Mor9 than 2 years.

Chamba Nakrot 4-85 Final payment not received.

'Hamirpur Bhared 1-86 Final payment not received.

Mandi Jhanghali 3-85 Final payment not received.

More than 1 year.

,Hamirpur Dalehar 5-85 Final payment not received on 12-87.

Mair 8-86 Final payment not received on 4-87.

Ladror 12-86 Final payment not received on 7-87.

pz;,!.lander 1-87 Final payment not received on 7-87.

Kashmir 3-87 Final payment not received.

Shimla Bareon 7-86 People do not want two ~parate exchanges. They Kuferbeg 7-86 want only one exchange for this village. 325 Written AnSWBIS PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answ... 328

1 2 3

Bilaspur Rishikesh 1-87 Final payment not received 87-88 on 7-87..

Kangra Sansarpur- 2-87 Final payment not received 87-88 Terrace on 6-87.

Opening of Extra Departmental and would be drawn up at an early date? Departmental Post Offic•• THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 181. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- VASANT SATHE): (a) The programme for TIONS be pleased to state: the current year (1987-88) has been final· ised. For 1988-89, the number of new past offices to be opened for the country as a (a) whether any programme for the whole has been determined. The position in opening of Extra Departmental and Depart- respect of 1988-89 will be clear only when mental Post Offices has been finalised for the Annual Plan for that year is discussed the current and the subsequent years of the with the Planning Commission.atthe appro· Seventh Plan period; priate time.

(b) if so, a broad outline of this pro- (b) The number of extra-departmental gram me for each Postal Circle along with the and departmental post offices sanctioned likely date by which the targets for the cur- during the year is indicated in the statement rent year, if any, would be fulfilled along with below. targets for each Circle for each year; and (c) A Circle-wise programme will be (c) if not, whether any such programme drawn upon in due course. STATEMENT

Number of Post Office Sanctioned during 1987-88

Circles Extra departmental Post Office Departmental Post Offices

1 2 3

1. Andhra Pradesh 2

2. Bihar 128

3. Delhi 2

4. Gujarat 3 327 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answ.,_ 328

1 2 3

5. Haryana 4 1

6. Himachal Pradesh 8

7. Jammu & Kashmir 8 1

8. Kerala 37

9. Karnataka 7

10. Madhya Pradesh 144

11. Maharashtra 29 1

12. North Eastern 43

13. Orissa 14 1

14. Punjab 3

15. Rajasthan 31

16. Tamil Nadu 30

17. Uttar Pradesh 379 2

18. West Bengal 110

980 8

Installation of C-dot Exchanges has been drawn up and the installation taken in hand; 182. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARM ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- (c) if so, the places where they have TIONS be pleased to state: been programmed for installation/circle- wise and the likely date by which they would (a) whether the C-Oot Exchanges have be installed; and b~en found suitable for installation in the rural areas of the country after a ser"ies of (d) if not, whethE\r such a programme field trials; would be drawn up and implemented at an early date? (b) if so, whether a programme for the installation of these exchanges in the vari- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND ous Telecommunication Circles/Districts MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI 329 Written AnSW91S PHALGUNA 4,,1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 330

VASANTSATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. The 128 Port 1 2 Rural Automatic Exchanges of C-OOT de- sign capable of giving 88 telephone connec- 4. Khammam tions haVA been found suitable. Aswaraopet

Khammam (b) The Indian Telephone Industries at 5. Kallur Bangalore is gearing up to productionise the units. Supplies at the rate of 30 per month 6. Ta"ada Khammam are expected to become available from May 11988. 7. Argenda Chittoor

The Unit is expected to be cost-effective 8. Bangarupalem Chittoor starting with about 35 telephone connec- tions. It has been decided to replace the 9. Yadamani Chittoor existing steps by step RAXs with 35-50 connections by C-DOT RAXs of 128 Ports. 10. Kanipakam Chittoor The recovered step by RAXs will be used to open new rural exchanges where demands ASSAM CIRCLE are registered for ten or more connections. 1. Pathsa!a Barpetta Thus, it will be possible to increase the opening of exchanges in rural areas from 2. Mankachar Phubri about existing 850 a year to about 1200 a year. 3. Abhaypur; Goalpara

(c) Initially, four hundred stations in 4. Bijni Kokrajhar rural areas in various Telecom. Circles have been identified for installation of C-DOT 5. Sapatgram Kokrajhar RAXs during 1988-89. The list of these sta- tions is given in the statement below. 6. Umarangro N-Cachar

(d) Does not arise in view of (c) above. 7. Tihu Nalbari Hills

STATEMENT 8. Jagi Road Nowgong

List of Stations Iden lied for Installation of 9. Lonka Nowgong 128 Port 'J-dot RAX. 10. Lumding Nowgong ANDHRA PRADESH DISTRICT CIRCLE 11. Marigaon Nowgong

1 2 12. Simulguri Sibsagar

1. Dubbak Kurnool 13. Ghahigaon Sonikpur

2. Gowra Ram Kurnoal 14. Udalguri Sonikpur

3. Naraip Khed Kurnool 15. Lala Cachar 331 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 332

1 2 1 2

16. Sakhimpur Cachar 18. Patory Samastipur

17. Udarband Cachar 19. Pusa Samastipur

18. Anguri Jorhat 20. Sasera Samastipur

19. Borpatha~ Jorhat 21. Wani Samastipur

20. Titabar Jorhat 22. Burgania Samastipur

BIHAR CIRCLE 23. Bahmankhi Purnea

,. Masrak Chapra 24. Gurubazar Katihar

2. Marharwa Chapra 25. Yogbani Purnea

3. Sanpur Chapra 26. Warsaliganj Nawada

4. Lauriya Champaran West 27. Janakpur Road Sitamarhi

5. Narkatiaganj Champaran West 28. Sheohar Sitamarhi

6. Ram Nagar Champaran West 29. Runi Sarilcur Sitamarhi

7. Areraj Champaran East 30. Kadarma H~zaribagH

8. Barachakia Champaran East GUJABA T CIRCLE

9. Daka Champaran East 1. Aglod Mahsana

10. Gugauli Champa ran East 2. Balisana Mehsana

11. Ghoghardihia Madhubani 3. Bhilwana Mehsana

12. Laukaha Madhubani 4. Vanakbori TPS Kheda

13. Mirmali Madhubani 5. Ras Kheda

14. Sakar; Madhubani 6. Sandaspur Kheda

15. 8undu Ranchi 7. Chital Amrali (ION)

16. Kank. R.n~ 8. Mangar Amrali (IDN)

17. Muri Ranchi 9. Kunkarav Amreli (ION) 333 Written Answers PHAlGUNA4, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 334'

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10~ Liliyamoty Amreli (ION) HIMACHAL PRADESH CIRC LE

HARYANA CIRCLE 1. Barmana Bilaspur

1. Nisang Karnal 2. Bakloh Chamba

2. Kalpet Jind 3. Bhawarna Kangra

3. Pilukhera Jind 4. Jaisinghpur Kangra

4 Jundala Karnal 5. Paragpur Kangra

5 Madlauda Karnal 6. Rshan Kangra

6. Sabian Kurukshetra 7. Gazta Simla

7. Shol Kurukshetra 8. Nankheri Simla

8. Sawal Mohindergarh 9. Padhara Simla

9. Kanina Mohindergarh 10. Narkhanda Simla

10. Kund Mohindergarh 11. Shoghi Simla

11. Sari Rohtak 12. Chail Solan

12. Kosli Rohtak 13. Oarlaghat Solan

13. Kharkhoda Sonepat 14. Kunihar Solan

14. Khewra Sonepat 15. Barsar Hamirpur

15. Rai Sonepat 16. Shota Hamirpur

16. Mullana Ambala (ION) 17. Janu Hamirpur 17. Saha Ambala (ION) 18. Sujanpur Tira Hamirpur 18. Bilaspur Ambala (ION) 19. Amb Una 19. Rani Ambala (ION)

20. Shehzadpur Ambala (ION) 20. Santokhgarh Una 335 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 336

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JAMMU AND KASHMIR CIRCLE KARNA TAKA CIRCLE

1. Kazigund Anantnag 1. V.C. Chatra Mysore

2. Bijibehara Anantnag 2. Segur Mysore

3. Kulgam Anantnag 3. Terakanambedi Mysore

4. Pandipur Baramulla 4. Saligramma Mysore

5. Paltan Baramulla 5. Hullahalli Mysore

6. Baderwah Dada 6. Suttur Mysore

7. 80tote Doda 7. Kalyanur Kollar I,

8. Ramban Dada 8. Vodogur Kollar

9. Mendhar Pooneh 9. Bethamangala Kollar

10. Surankot Pooneh 10. Rajupet Road Kollar

11. Trat Pulwama ~BAl.d QIBCI.f. l/::!.Q.L fJJ2lt:J.G UlL QE L~KS.t:f.Q W~E.e 12. Shopian Pulwama 1. Kallara Trivandrum 13. Jawahar Nagar Rajouri 2. Karakonam Trivandrum 14. Nowshera Rajouri 3. Madan Villaperu Malhuwa Trivar.- 15. Sunderbani Rajouri drum

16. Ganderwal Srinagar 4. Pacha-Palode Trivandrum

17. Sumbal Srinagar 5. Arangottukara Trichur (ION)

18. Bishnah Jammu 6. Mullurkera Trichur (ION) (ION ·Distt.) 7. Kurichikara Trichur (ION) 19. Miran Sahib Jammu (ION DisH.) 8. Punnala Trichur (ION)

20. Vijaypur Jammu 9. Ambala Thara Kasargod (ION Oistt.) 10. Kudayadoor Kottayam 337 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 338

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11. Agathy Lakshdweep 19. Beresia Bhopal

12. Amini Lakshdweep 20. Misrad Bhopal

13. Chatlat Lakshdweep 21. Nasrullaganj Sehara

14. Kalpeni Lakshdweep 22. Nagod Satna

MADHYA PBADESH CIRCLE 23. Jaitwara Satria

1. Govindgarh Rewa 24. Rajgarh Dhar

2. Narsinghgarh Rajgarh 25. Petlawad Jhabua

3. Waidhan Sidhi 26. Jashpurnagar Jaigarh

4. Sarni Betul 27. Sarangarh Raigarh

5. Raghogarh Guna 28. Kavarda Rajnandgaon

8. Timarni Hasangabad 29. Garhakota Sagar

7. Babi Hosangabad 30. Rehli Sagar

8. Sobagpur Hosangabad 31. Chhapra Seoni

9. Malankhand Balaghat 32. Seon; Betul

10. Katangi 8alaghat 33. Maksi Shajapur

11. Pendra Road Bilaspur 34. Benmore Morena

12. Gevra Project Bilaspur 35. Nayagaon Mendsaur

13. Kotgora Bilaspur 36. Jhandla Jhabua

14. Oepalpur Indore 37. Alirajpur Jhabua

15. Gautampura Indore 38 Sanchi Raisen

16. Sanwer Indore 30. Baikunthpur Sarguja

17. Manpur Indore MA HdBd s.t:J. rad Q.lBQ.I.f. Ui.QJ. Ua.LtiCl .GOA 18. Buna Raipur 1. Someshwar Nagar Puna 339 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written AnSWBrs 340

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Khedaluezunce Puna 2. 14. Siolim Goa

Kasurna Puna 3. 15. Shlroda Goa

Bori Puna 4. 16. Tiska Goa

Varasai Jite Kolaba (Raigad) 5. 17. Valpai Goa

Kholad Kolaba (Raigad) s. 18. Varka Goa

Parali Kolaba (Raigad) 7. North Eastern Circle Djstrict

8. Borlimandla Kolaba (Raigad) Manipur

Chowk Kolaba (RaigaC'l) 9. 1. Bishnpur Bishenpur

10. Ajiwali Kolaba (Raigad) 2. Chandal Tengnopal QCM 3. Ulkhral Ukhral

1. Aldona Goa Megha/aya

Assonora Goa 2. 1. Barapani E. Khasi Hill ION distt. 3. Chorao Goa 2. Burnibat E. Khasi Hill 4. Collem Goa ION disn.

5. Cortalim Goa 3. Cherapunji E. Khasi Hill ION distt. 6. Mandem Goa Mizoram 7. Mardol Goa 1. Saiha Chintnipui 8. Nerul Goa 2. Champi AizwallDN 9. Pale Goa 3. Kolasib -do- 10. Parnem Goa Naga/and 11. Pilar Goa 1. Naginimora Mon 12. Seupem Goa 2. Mon Mon 13••• nguem Goa 341 Writt9~ Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 342

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3. Zunleboto Zumbeboto 6. Chandubali

Tripura 7. Jaleswar Balasore

,. Kumarghat North Tripura 8. Rajnilgiri Balasore

2. Amarpur South Tripura 9. Attabera

3. Bslonia South Tripura 10. 8elpahar Sambalpur

4. Agartala Airport West Tripura 11. Oeogarh Sambalpur

5. Khowai -do- 12. Kushinda Sambalpur

6. Sonamura -do- 13. Ganjam Ganjam

7. Teliamma -do- 14. GopaJpur Ganjam

Arunachal Pradesh 15. Hinjilikat Ganjam

1. Tawang Tawang 16. Kabisurya nagar Ganjam

2. Seppa East Kameng 17. Balimela Koraput

3. Tirap 18. Malkangiri -do-

4. Changlong Tirap 19. Maniguda -do-

5. Anini Dibang Valley 20. Umerkote -do-

S. Kang Dibang Valley Rajasthan Circle District

7. Banderdewa Lower Subsan- 1. Kish Bas Alwar sari 2. Laxmangarh -do- ORISSA CIRCLE 3. Shahpura Jaipur 1. Bemki Cuttack 4. Bassi -do- 2. Kuoanga Cuttack 5. Kanota -do- 3. Patamundai Cuttack 6. Chaksu -do- 4. TIrtol Cuttack 7. Paota -do- 5. Basta Balasore 343 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 344

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8.Jobmor -do- PUNJAB CIRCLE

9.Phulera -do- 1. Kotfatuhi Hoshiarpur

10. Bagru -do- 2. Bohan ..

11. Marwar Mundwa Nagaur (ION) 3. Bullowal

12. Kuchera -do- 4. Garhdiwala

13. Jayal -do- 5. Alwalpur Jalandhar

14. Kuchaman Raod -do- 6. Behram

15. Bidiad; -do- 7. Rurkakalam

16. Parbatsar -do- 8. Hathoor Ludhiana

17. Osian Jadhpur 9. Katanikalan

18. Bhopalgarh -do- 10. Payal

19. Borunda -do- 11. Maloud

20. Malkhera Alwar 12. Banur Patiala

21. Gobindgarh -do- 13. Lalru

22. Ranigarh -do- 14. China-rthal

23. Puskhkar Ajmer 15. Amargarh Sangrur

24. Pisayan -do- 16. Dherba II

25. Ghatol Banswara 17. Kupkalan

26. Khnushalgarh -do- 18. Longowal

27. Asind Bhilwara 19. Sularghat II

.28. Mandai -do- 20. Mahelkalan "

29. Mandalgarh -do- Tamil Nadu Circle Including Union Territory of Pondicherry. 30. Tijara -do 1.Athipadu Chuigelpettu 345 Written Answers PHAlGUNA 4.1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 348

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2. Triporur '1. Mohammadabad ..

3. Nawaloor " 12. Phoolpur II

4. K. K. Chataram 13. 8arai Mir. • II

5. Bimmidi Dharampuri 14. Jon; Meerut

6. Kalugou ndapalli II 15. Hastinapur II

7. Gopinattampaty 16. Garhmukteshwar Ghaziabad

8. Karimangalam II 17. Lal Ganj Raibareity

9. Marandahalli .. 18. Colonel Ganj Gonda

10. Morappur II 19. Nawab Ganj "

11. Bahoor Pondicherry 20. Simbhoali Ghaziabad

12. Kalapet 21. Pitambarpur Bareilly

13. Ambag arat hu r 22. Parikshitgarh Meerut

. U. P. Circle 23. Gyanpur Varansi

1. Salon Raibareilly 24. Raja Talab II

2. Jagdishupur Sultanpur 25. Chandauli ..

3. Amethi a. 26. Takhanpur Sitapur

4. M. Khan 27. Banda 8hahjahanpur

5. Hargaon Sitapur 28. Khutar ..

6. Mehmoodabad 29. Puwayan

7. Maholi 30. Jallalabad

8. Sidhauli 31. Beharabad Saharanpur

9. Bilariganj Azamgarh. 32. Bahat

10. Lalganj .. 33. Chhutmalpur .. 347 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers ·348

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34. Nakur 15. Jhantipahari ..

35. Nanuta .. 16. Khatra "

36. Rampur Raibare"y 17. Kotulpur

37. Jayas u 18. Baduria 24·Paragana

38. Dhachula Pithoragarh 19. Canning "

39. Lohaghat " 20. Joynagar

40. Tulsipur, Gonda 21. Diglipur (Andaman Nicobar) Wsst Bengal Circle including Sikkim and UIT of Andaman & Nicobar 22. Mahabandar

1. Bagula Nadia 23. Rangat ..

2. Oebagram 24. Wimberligung

3. Majdia 25. Rangpo Sikkim

4. Bulbulitala Burdwan 26. Nayabazar ..

5. Dignagar Burdwan 27. Mangan II

6. Jangrah 28. Gayzing

7. Bagnan Howrah Request from Industrialists of Mehatpur 8. Panchla 'I (Himachal Pradesh) for Provision of Direct Trunk Circuits 9, Oasghara ,. 183. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR· 10. Haripal ASHAR: Will the' Minister of COMMUNICA· TIONS be pleased to state: 11. Panskura Midnapur (a) whether the industrialists at 12. Mahishadal Mehatpur in distrid Una of. Himachal Pradesh submitted a memorandum to the 13. HijU Minister of State for Communications on 20 August, 1987 during his visit to Una district 14. Barjora Bankura requesting fQr the provision of direct trunk 349 Written AnSwelS PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answenr 350 ,., clrcuits(i) Mehatpur and Shimla (ii) Mehta- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- pur and Jalandhar, (iii), Mehatpur and Chan- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM):(a) and digarh and (iv) Mehtapur and Delhi and also (b). Government received certain represen- highlighted a number of difficulties faced by tations from SSI units following the price hike them in the maturing of trunk calls; and in stgel and copper. The Government have reduced the import duty on copper from (b) if so, the action taken to fulfil the 140% to 95% w.e.f. 31.12.87. The price of demand?, copper has also been reduced in January 1988. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Complaints Regarding Unsatisfactory VASANT SATHE):(a) The memorandum Telephone Working and Excess Billing given to Minister of state for Communica- In Orissa. tions does not appear to have been re- ceived. However, information is furnished in 185. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will the reply to Part (b). Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (b) Provision of direct trunk circuits from Mehatpur to Chandigarh and Shimla is not (a) the number of complaints received technically feasible at present. A Ultra High till January,88 about the unsatisfactory Frequency (Radio system) between Una working of telephones and excess billing in and Jalandhar is likely to be commissioned Orissa; and by 1990. Trunk circuits to Chandigarh and Shlmla and operator dialled trunk circuits to (b) the details of action taken for the Jalandhar trunk automatic exchange will be redressal of these complaints and improve- provided after the commissioning of above ments of telephone services in Orissa? radio System. Regarding circuit to New Deihl. operator dialled trunk circuit wUl give THE MINISTER OF' ENERGY AND direct access to all stations connected to the MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHHI Trunk Automatic Exchange network includ- VASANT SATHE):(a) (i). Number of Tele- ing New Delhi. phone complaints till January, 1988-1972

Effect of High Prices of Coal, Steel,Cop- per and Petrol on Small Seale Units (ii) No. of excess billing complaints till Jan.1988-1213. 184. SHRI H.B.PATIL:Willthe Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased. to state: (b) (i) Following actions are taken for redressal of complaints:- (a) whether the performance of small scale units in the country has been severely A. Complaints regarding unsatis- affected due to recent hikes in prices of coal factory working of telephones steel, copper and lately petrol; and are investigated and remedia' actions taken. (b) If so, the reaction of Government in this regard? B Excess billing complaints are investigated and adiens taken THE MINISTER OF SITE IN THE according to rules. Rebat•• are DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- given wherever due. 351 Written Answers ·FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 3S2 (ii) For improvement of telecommu- TRY (SHR( M. ARUNACHALAM):(a) Under nication services of Orissa. fol- the provisions of Industries (Development & lowing actions have been initi- Regulation Act, a total number of 24 indus- ated:- trial licences were issued during the calen- dar years. 1985 to 1987 for setting up of A. Replacement of heavy overhead industries in Himachal Pradesh. These li- alignments by underground cences were granted for taking up manufac- cables. ture of items pertaining to Metallurgical In- dustries. Electrical Equipments, Telecom- B. Provision of Drop wires for sub- munication, Transportation, Industrial Ma- scriber fittings. chinery. Agricultural Machinery. Commer- cial Office & Household equipments, Tex- C. One digital Tax has been in- tiles, Glass and Misc. Industries. stalled in Cuttack in Jan, 1988. Details such as name and address of D. Replacement of life expired tele- the undertaking location, Item(s) of manu- phone instruments. facture and capacity etc in respect. of all industrial licences issued are published E. Dressing up and locking of D.P. regularly by the Indian Investment Centre in boxes. their jMonthly Newsletter'. Copies of this publication are being sent to the Parliament F. One digital TAX has been Library regularly. commissioned in Cuttack in Jan. 1988. (b) Out of the 24 industrial lieane•• mentioned above. 6 were for 'Carry-on- G. Replacement of life expired ex- Business'. The remaining 18 licences would change equipments. be at various stages of implementation. Detaifs regarding number Qf persons em· Licences for Setting up of Industries In played in the licensed industrial projects are Himachal Pradesh not centrally maintained in the Ministry of Industry. 186. SHRI K.D.SULTANPURI:WilJ the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Survey for 011 and Gas In Himachal Pradesh (a) the details of licences issued by his Ministry during the last three years for setting 187. SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI:WiII the up big industries in Himachal Pradesh and Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL the names of those industries; and GAS be pleased to state:

(b) the number out of them which are (a) the names of the places in Himachal functioning and the number of those which Pradesh where survey for petrol and gas has are !-Inder construction including the details been conducted; and with regard to the number of employees engaged therein? (b) the details of the progress made in this regard during the last one year? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIL DEVEL- MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINIS· OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL 353 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 354

GAS (SHRI' BRAHMA DUTT):(a) ONGe, to state: have been conducting geological and geo- physical surveys in Chamba, Kangra, Ha- (a) the number of places where Sub· mirpur, Una, Mandi, Bilaspur, Solan, Simla Post Offices and Branch post offices are and Sirmur Districts of Himachal Pradesh. proposed to be opened in Himachal Pradesh during the next year; and (b) During the last one year, geological mapping and investigations were carried out (b) the criteria fixed therefor in regard to in Bharwain-Swarght area of Bhakra reser- the hill areas and the number of such post voir region and in Dhunehra-Kotla area in offices opened during the last two years? ChambalKangra district and seismic sur- veys were conducted in Dharmsala. Palam- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND pur, Nurpur and Dhanaura areas in Kangra MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI and Sirmur districts. VASANT SATHE): (a) There are proposals for opening one sub post office and 7 branch Linking of Districts of Himachal post offices and concessions adm issible to Pradesh with Deihl By S.T.D. hill areas are indicated in the statement below. No new post office was opened ;n 188. SHRI K.D.SULTANPURI: Will the Himachal Pradesh during 1985-86 and MinisterofCOMMUNICATIONS be pleased 1986-87. During the current year (1987-88) to state: 8 branch post offices have been sanctioned.

(a) the names of districts in Himachal Pradesh where Government propose to STATEMENT instal Satellite telephones; and Norms for Opening of Sub-Post Offices (b) the details of the districts which are likely to be connected with Delhi by S.T.D. i Urban Areas (Non-Plan) during the year 1988.? i) Initially the post office should be THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND self-supporting but at the time of MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI thc first annual review it should VASANT ~ATHE):(a) Three satellite earth show 5 % profit to be eligible for stations namely Kulu, Kalpa and Keylong further retention. have already been installed in Himachal Pradesh. ii) The minimum distance between two post offices is now raised to (b) Six district headquarters of Hima- a 5 Kms in cities with a popula- chal Pradesh namely; Bilaspur, Bharam- tion of 20 lakhs and above and 2 shala, Hamirpur, Mandi, Nahan and Solan Kms in other urban areas. No are likely to be connected with Delhi by STD two delivery offices however during the year 1988. should be closer than 5 kms from each other. Further a deliv8IY Opening of Sub Post office and Branch post office should have a mini- Post offices In Himachal Pradesh mum of 7 postman's beats.

189. SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI:Will the iii) No extra departmental post of- Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pfeased fices will be opened in urban 355 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 356 areas. that (a) the aggregate population of the group of villages is not less iv) Heads of Circles will have pow- than 3,000 in normal rural areas ers to relax the distance condi- and 1500 in hilly, backward and tion in 100/0 of the cases. tribal areas and (b) there is no other post office within the v) In all cases, approval of Ministry group. of Finance will be obtained. ii) The post office may be normally /I Project Areas/Industrial Estates & town- opened at the headquarter vil- ships/Satellite townships/ other areas of lage of the qram Panchayat. If developmental activity (Plan) such a village falls within 3 kms of dn existing post office, me i) The scheme will cover depart- post office may be opened in mental sub offices to be set up in another suitable village within project areas, new industrial the same gram panchayat which estates/townships satellite colo- fulfills the distance conditions. nies developed in the periphery of cities/urban agglomerations iii) The 3 Kms restriction can be and other similar developments relaxed by the Directorate in hilly which have come up in new areas in cases where such re- areas in pursuances of the plan laxation is warranted by special activities of State and Central circumstances. Government departments and agencies. iv) The minimum anticipated reve-

nue will be 33 1/3% -33 % of the ii) the posts required for the open- cost in normal rural areas and ing of departmental sub office 150/0 of the cost in hilly tribal and under this scheme will be cre- backward areas. ated with the approval of Secre- tary in the Ministry of Finance Oil Reserves in Krishna-Godavari (Department of Expenditure). Basin

Iii) Only proposals in which the 190. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA minimum anticipated work is 5 MURTY: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM hours can be considered. AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

iv) the permissible limits of loss will (a) the estimated oil reserves in be As 24001- (in normal rural Krishna-Godavri, Cauvery and Andamans; areas) and As 48001- (in hilly, backward and tribal areas per (b) the sites tested by the Oil and sub office per annum.) Natural Gas Commission in the Krishna· Godavri and Cauvery basins and the sites Norms for Opening Rural Branch Post Office found having potential for yielding oil;

i) A group of villages constituting a (c) whether two mUlti-national compa- single gram Panchayat will be nies were also entrusted with the exploration eligible for a post office provided work in some of these basins; 357 Written AnSW91S PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 358

(d) if so, the reasons therefor and the statement: names of these companies and the progress achieved? (c) and (d). To supplemenllll8 efforts ot ONGC and OIL for intensification of explo- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ration tor hydrocarbons, contracts have MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- recently been signed with MIs. Chevron RALGAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTI):(a) 17.59 International Ltd.' Taxaco exploration (India) million tonnes of Geological reserves'of oil Inc. and International Petroleum (Bermuda) have been estimated in these basins till 1-1- Ltd. for exploration in three brock in Krishna.. 1987. Godavri offshore basin. These foreign oil companies are rtlquired to start operations (b) Information is given in the attached within six month of the signing the contracts.

STATEhlENT

K.G.BASIN:

1) ON LAND

SI.No Structure No. of wells Oil Wells Gas wells drilled

1 2 3 4 5

1. Amalapuram 1

2. Bhimanapalli 2 1

3. Draksharama 1

4. Kaza 1 1

5. Kaikalur 3 1 1

s. Kanukollu 1

7. Kommugudem 1

8. Modi 1

9. Matsyapuri 1

10. Narsaour 4 2

11. Palakollu 1

12. 1 1 ~ Written Answ91S FEBRUARY 23,1988 Written Answers 360

1 2 3 4 5

13. Razole 4 3

14. Surasaniyanam 1

15. Tatipaka 2 2

16. Vadaparru 1

17. Vetlapalem 1

18. Vanadurru 1

19. Bantumilli

~O. Chintlapalli

21. Vadali 1

TOTAL 29 1 11

2. OFFSHORE

1. G-1 6 3 1

2. G-2 3 2

3. G-3 1

4. G-4 1

5. G-5 1

6. G-13 1

7. GS-1 1

8. GS-2 1

9. GS-3 2

10. GS-S 1

11. GS-8 1 1

12. GS-11 1 361 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 362

1 2 3 4 5

13. GS-12 1

14.' GS-14 1

15. GS-16 3 2

16. GS-17 1

18. GS-19 1

19. GS-20 1

20. GS-'21 1

21. GS-22 1

22. KRI 1

23. KS-3 1

24. KS-4 1

TOTAL 34 7 2

CAUVERY BASIN;

1) ON LAND

1. Bhuvyanagiri 1

2. Chidambaram 1

3. Karaikal 8 2

4. Kattumannarkoil 1

5. Kovilkalapal 4 2

6. Madanam 1 1

7. Mayavaram 1

8. Mandapam 1

9. Nagapattinam 1 363 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1;88 Written Answe" 364

1 2 3 4 5

10. Narimanam 3 3

11. Nagore 1

12. Oratanadu 1

13. Pappanacheri 1

14. Pandanallur 1

15. Raghunathapuram 1

16. Saliamangalam 1

17. Tiruppundi

18. Tirutturaipundi 3

19. Tirukkalar 1 1

20. Tiruvarur 1

21. Thevur 1

22. Komarakshi

23. Nannilam

24. Peruvalandan

TOTAL 35 8 2

2. OFFSHORE

1. Mannar 1

2. KH-1 1

3. KH-2 1

4. KH-3

5. PH-3 1

6. PH-8 1 365 Written Answers PHAlGUNA 4. 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 366

1 2 3 4 5

7. PH-9 7 1

8. PH-10 1

9. PH-11 1 1

10. PH-13 1

11. PY-1 5 3

12. PY-3 1 1

13. PYH-2 1

14. PH-31

TOTAL 23 2 4

Crisis In Bharat Heavy Plates and poor liquidity, etc., BHPV is facing problems. V9sseles Ltd., To improve the position, the company is taking various steps such as obtaining sys- 191. SHRI 8HATTAM SRIRAMA tem sales orders instead of supply of ind;vld- MURTY: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be ual equipment, extending services 10 new pleased to state: industries, acquiring technology in new ar- eas, etc. (a) whether the Bharat ~eavy Plates and Vessels Ltd., Visakhapatnam is cur- (c) The targeted production of As. 120 rently facing crisis; crores for the year 1987-88 is expected to be achieved. (b) if so, the details thereof and the steps taken to improve the position; (d) Does not arise.

(c) whether the target of Rs. 120 crores (e) The yearwisa production against for 1987-88 could not' e reached; targets for th(:t iast three years is given be- low: (d) if so, the reasons thereof; and (Rs. in crores)

(d) what is the performance profile for Year Target Actuals' the last three years with reference to the targets and achievements? 82.00 72.59

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI 1985-85 90.00 91.34 J. VENGALA RAO): (a) and (b). On account of inadequate and uneven flow of orders. 1986-87 102.00 97.47 367 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 368 formation of Telecommunication (b) if so. what are the salient features Commission thereof;

192. SHRI BHATIAM SRIRAMA (c) whether the new strategy proposes MURTY: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- creation of the rural production groups to TIONS be pleased to state: produce such. elementary goods needed by public sector as uniforms for defence per- (a) whether Government propose to sonnel; and form a Telecommunication Commission; (d) whether the products of multina- (b) if so, the details thereof; tional and big industrial houses have perco" lated in remote villages which has striking (c) whether Government intend to give effect on the rural sector? priority for development of rural communica- tion net work; and THE: MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- (d) the steps being taken in this regard? OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND Promotion of industries in rural sector pri- MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI marily falls within the responsibility of the VASANT SATHE): (a) No such decision has State Governments. The Central Govern- been taken. ment, however, supplements the efforts of State Governments by way of measures like (b) Does not arise. provision of cheap and easily available fi- \ nance, transfer of technology, assisting in (c) Yes, Sir. the provision of scarce and critical raw mata- rial and creation of institutional infrastructure (d) As per the policy of the department at the All India level. In order to disperse of an exchange of 9,25,50 and 100 line can industries in rural and semi-urban areas and be opened if there is paid demand of 5,1 0,23 to provide all the services and support to and 46 respectively. As a policy objective it small entrepreneurs under the single roof is planned to provide telecommunication district industries centres have been set up facility at the Principal village in every inhab- in 422 districts covering 431 districts-in the ited geographical area bounded by a hexa- country. These steps are under constant gon of 5 KM sides each on fully subsidised review. basis progressively, depending on availabil- ity of financial and material resources. Efforts are also being made to create Rural Production Groups particularly of women to produce such elementary goods Rural Industrialisation needed by the public sector as uniform for the Defence Personnel through DGS & D. 193. SHRI SHAITAM SRIRAMA Instructions have also been issued to State MURTY: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Governments Union Territories to identify pleased to state: strong purveyors of demand in the public sector and to encourage supply from pro- (a) whether Government have decided duction groups set up under IRDP for items to draft a new and effective strategy to pr0- like uniforms required for defence, police mote rapid rural industrialisation; personnel and school children. 369 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) WriNen Answers 370

(d) The industrial licensing policy of the during 1986 and 1987 and the percentage Government discourages entry of MRTPI increase in the domestic output by various FERA companies from entering areas which refineries during these years; are not normally open to them by excluding _, them from exemption from industriallicens- (c) the existing gap between demand ing. and supply of petrol; and

Gap between Demand and Supply of (d) the quantity (with value in foreign Petrol exchange) proposed to be imported by Government and by what percentage the 194. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI demand is likely to be met as a result KHAN: Wi" the Minister of PETROLEUM thereof? AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) whether Government propose to MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- import petrol to meet the gap between RALGAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a)to (d). demand and supply; The fo~lowing statement gives the figures of demand and production and t,he percentage (b) if so, the comparative percentage of increase in the demand as well as produc- rise in petrol consumption in the country tion of petrol in the country for 1986 and 1987

(Qty. '000' tonnes)

Demand Production

Year Qty. % Growth Qty. 0/0 Growth

1986 (Jan-Dec) 2456 9.3 2464 9.4

1987 (Jan-Dec) 2745 11.8 2795 13.4

Imports wi!) be considered as and when (d) if so, the facts thereof; and necessary to meet the domestic demand. (e) the measures which Government Impact of Stagnation on Balance of have taken or propose to take to over-come Trade these problems?

195. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE TIL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- pleased to state: OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (a) whether several sectors of the in- (b). Food products, Cotton textiles, paper dustry are showing signs of stagnation; and paper products, leather & fur products. chemical and chemical products, basic (b) if so, the reasons therefor; metals and alloy industries, metal products and parts, electrical machinery appliances (c) whether this recent stagr1ation has and apparatus, transport equipments and had adverse impact on our balance of trade; parts and other manufacturing industrie. 371 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 372 have shown positive growth rate during in New Delhi on 24 th November 1987 for April-November, 1987, overthecorrespond- promoting the development of New forms of ing period of the previous year. However, economic cooperation between the, two beverage, tobacco and its products, jute, countries in industry. trade. services sector hemp and mesta products, textiles including and other possible fields. Presently a num- wearing apparel other than footwear, wood ber of joint ventu,re proposals in the fields of and wood products, furniture and fixtures, leather, textiles, dye stuffs, forest products, Rubber, Plastic, petroleum & coal products, etc. are at the preliminary negotiation stage. non-metallic mineral products, machinery, machine tools parts except electrical ma- Permission for use of. Cordless Tele- chinery have shown negative rate. The stag- phone nation in some of the industries are due to cyclical changes, demand constraints and 197. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will shortage of raw materials etc. the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) and (d). According to the latest pro- visional trade statistics, India's trade deficit (a) whether permission of the Depart- showed a decline of Rs. 297.18 crores dur- ment of Telecommunications is required for ing April-Dec. 1987 compared to April-De- the use of cordless telephones by tha.sub- cember, 1986. scribers;

(e) Government have taken various (b) if so, the reasons for insisting of the steps to give a further boost to industrial Department; growth through a more liberal licensing pol- icy, promotional efforts, incentives and sub- (c) whether Government are aware of sidies, provisi()n of concessional finance the harassment involved in getting such and infrastructural development, schemes permission; and for technological upgradation of selected engineering goods. (d) if so, whether Government are considering not to insist on such permis- Joint Ventures with USSR sion?

196. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PA- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND TIL: Will thA Ministry of INDUSTRY be MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI pleased to state: VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir.

(a) whether Soviet Union are seeking (b) The permission for use of cordless joint ventures with India for producing manu- telephones is necessary to control use of factured goods for use in India; and radio frequencies and its range of operation to avoid interference to other users. (b) if so, the details thereof? (c) There is no harassment in setting THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the required permission for a cordless t8Je- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- phone which conforms to the prescribed OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- specifications. TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and .(b). An Agreement between the Govern- (d) Does not arise inviawof reply to Part ments of India and the U.S.S.R. was signed (c) above. 373 Writt~" Answ91S PHALGU~A 4J 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 374 Enforcement of Business Ethics on takan uporcomplefad in BiharuptoOctober. Tyre Manufacturers 1987?

198. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: THE MINISTER ENERGY AND MINIS- Will the Ministerof INDUSTRY be pleased to TER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VAS- state: ANT SATHE): (a) 5 Head Post Offices & 1098 other post offices are functioning in (a) whether Government propose to rented buildings in Bihar, and the annual rent enforce code of business ethics on tyre bill is Rs. 28,03,8001-. manufacturers; and (b) Rs. 3.14 crores have been allocated (b) if so, what other steps Government for the construction of post office buildings propose to take to safeguard the interest of during the first three years of the Seventh consumers and also check tax evasion? Five Year Plan and funds are allotted on annual basis. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- (c) No targets are fixed in respect of OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- individual states because the targets are TRY (SHRt M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and fixed for the Department as a whole. (b). The Government have a constant dia- logue with the tyre industry in order to maxi- (d) 31 new post office buildings were mise production of tyres and also ensure taken up for construction during first three their availabilitytothe users. Matters relating year~ of the Seventh Five Year Plan upto to consumers interest and tax evasion are 31.10.87. 14 new post office buildings have taken care of by the concerned authorities been completed during the same period. according to the relevant provisions of law. Import and Allocation of Edible 011 Post offices in rented buildings in Bihar 200. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: 199. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be PLIES be pleased to state: pleased to state: (a) the quantity of edible oil imported (a) the number of Head Post Offices during 1986-87 with break-up according to and other Post Offices which are functioning oil-seed; in rented buildings in Bihar and the annual rent bill; (b) the quantity likely to be imported durina 1987-C8; (b) the amount allocated for the con- struction of Post Office buildings in Bihar (c) the quantity already imported during during the Seventh Five Year Plan; the current year;

(c) the target of construction in terms of (d) the quantity already allocated to number of new Post Offices to be taken up StateslUnion Territories during the current and or completed during the Plan Period; year; and and (e) the quantity already fitted by the (d) the number of new Post Offices StateslUnion Territories as on 31st October, 375 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 376

1987? into electronic exchanges;

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN -THE (b) if so, the total cost involved; MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) The quantity (c) the numberof electronic exchanges of edible oil imported during the financial in Kerala at prAsent; and year 1986-87 is given below:· (d) the details of the programme of Oil Quantity (MT) (Prov.) conversion of the remaining exchanges in the State? Rapeseed oil 214702 THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND Soyabean oil 213859 MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) No Sir. it is not pro- Palm oils 878219 posed to convert all the existing telephone exchanges into electronic exchanges. (b) The quantity of edible oils ~o be imported during the year is decided by the (b) Question does not arise in view of Government from time to time keeping in (a) above. view various factors, such as gap between demand and supply. international prices and (c) Eight. other relative factors. (d) The exchanges proposed for re- (c) During the financial year 1987-'88. placement by electronic systems are given upto end January, 1988, 16 lakhs metric in the statement below: tonnes (Provisional) of edible oils have been imported. STATEMENT

(d) 13.53 lakhs metric tannes of im- Exchanges proposed for replacement ported edible oil have been allocated to by Electronic System in Kerala States/Union Territories during the current financial year (April 1987 - February 1988). 51. Name of Tentative programme No. exchange of commissioning (e) 5.39lakhs metrictonnes of imported edible oil lifted by the States/Union Territo- 2 3 ries from April 1987 to October 1987 includ- ing small packs. 1. Pacha 128 Port C-DO equip· Palade ment has been allotted Conversion of Telephone Exchanles In for year 1988-89. Kerala into Electronic Telephone 2. Kallora Subject to availability Exchanges of equipment, from ITI, 3. Karakonam the exchanges are 201, SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN: schpduled for commi- Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be 4. Madan Villa ssioning in 1988-89. . pleased to state: Perumathura

(a) whether Government propose to 5. Arangathu Kara convert the existing telephone exchanges 3n Written Answers PHAlGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 378 VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir. 1 2 3 (b) Question does not arise in view of 6. Mullurkera reply to part (a) above.

7. Kurichikara (c) A number of public telephones have been provided at all these important loca- 8. Punnala tions so that some good working public tele- phones are always available when one or 9. Ambalathara two of them go faulty. These public tele- phones are tested daily and inspected fre- 10. Kudya Choor quently for their proper functioning.

11. Agathy Foreign Collaboration for Manufactur. of Shoes 12. Amini Lakshadweep 203. DR. V. VENKATESH: Will the 13. Chatlat Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state:

14. Kalpeni (a) whether varjous shoe manufactur- ing companies have applied for foreign col- laborations;

Public Call Offices in Deihl (b) the number of such applications pending with the ~ ,nent of Industrial 202. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the Development and the number of those on Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased which Finance Ministry has raised objection; to state: and

(a) whether the public telephones of (c) the particulars of applications since Central Telegraph Office, New Delhi, Indira approved by Government? Gandhi International Airport, Railway Sta- tions and Dr. Ram Manohar Lohia Ho~p;tal • THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE . Delhi often remain out of order and the call is UEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- not materialised even after inserting 50 OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- paise coin; TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and (b). Yes, Sir. Three applications for foreign collaboration for the manufacture of shoes (c) the action taken by Government for are pending at present. the redressal of the difficul1ies of the Public? (c) The following applications have THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND been approved for the manufacture of foot- MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI wear since 1985 :-

Name of the Indian Name of Foreign Remarks Company Collaborator 1 2 3 1. Mis. Burrough Wel1kome Nike of USA The approval 'etter has been 379 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 380

1 2 3

2. MIs. Wiba Shoes Pvt. Ltd. Wiba Ltd surrendered by (Hongkong) the party

3. MIs. Bata India Limited ADIDAS of ·West Germany

4. MIs. Drish & Company Shri H.S. Ahluwalia, NRI

Transport Arrang·ements of Felln Deihl Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 204. DR. V. VENKATESH: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be (a) whether ONGC has planned to pleased to state: deploy three off-shore rigs during the re- maining period of the Seventh Five Year (a) whether the Food Corporation of Plan; and India has been supplying food articles to Delhi Administration; (b) if so, the broad features of the scheme? (b) whether the F.C.I. has its own machir'.lery for handling and transport of food THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE articles to Delhi Administration; MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTI): (a) and (c) if not, whether any tenders are (b). Yes Sir. Invited for handlingltransporting of food ar- ticles; and One offshore drilling rig Sagar Bhushan is already in operation in Bombay offshore (d) whether the contract of transport sinc9 November, 1987 and other two such and handling of food articles is given by the rigs, namely, Sagar-Kiran and Sagar-Uday. STC to an individual and not to a cooperative which are presently on order on MDL. are unit? proposed to be deployed during 1988-89.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Allocation of Imported Edible 011 MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) Yes, Sir. 206. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: Will tha Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (b) to (d). The handling and tranc;port of be pleased to state: foodgrains to Delhi Administration is under- taken by the Delhi State Civil Supplies Cor- (a) the total quantity of edible oil im- poration. The Corporation takes delivery of ported during the period April-December, the stocks ex-FCI depots. 1987. month-wise:

Deployment of RIGS by ONGC (b) the quantity of edible oil allocated to each State during the said period, month- 205. DR. V. VENKATESH: Will the wise; 381 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Wrntsn Answers 382

(c) whether Government are aware that the rural population of the country is facing 1 2 great difficulty to get edible oil; and August,1987 159106 (d) if so, the steps being taken to - provide this facility to rural population also.? September, 1987 204527

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE October, 1987 295680 MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- PLIES (SHRI D.L.BAITHA) : (a) Th~ quantity November,1987 211733 of edible oils imported form April, 1987- December, 1987 month-wise is as follows: December .1987 169873

Month Quantity Imported \0) Astatement Indicating the allocation (In MTS) (Prov.) of imported edible oils to States under PDS during April 87 - December. 87 month-wise 1 2 is given in the statement below:

April,1987 54044 (c) and (d). No specific reports regard- ing shortage of edible oils in rural areas have MaY,1987 86507 been received from any StatelUT. However, States/UTs are being advised from time to June,1987 93070 time to strengthen as well as stream-line their PDS with special reference to the rural July,1987 139301 areas. 383 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 384

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F.C.I. Storage Capacity (a) the total quantity of edible oil im- ported from 1 st January 1987 to 31·Decem- 207. SHRI T. BALA GOUD: ber 1987, month-wise; SHRI MURLlDHAR MANE: DR. PHULRENU GUHA: (p) the countries from which the edible oil is imported; Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- PLIES be pleased to state: (c) the price paid and the agency employed in importing the oil; (a) the numberof godowns and storage capacity of the Food Corporation of India at (d) the price at which it is released to the present; consumer; and

(b) whether Government propose to (e) the cost of importing and distributing augment its existing storage capacity in the the edible oil to the consumers and the profit country, especially in the light of the recent made by the State Trading Corporation in drought in the country; and the sale of imported edible oil to the consum- ers? (c) if so, the details thereof? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- PLIES (SHRI D.L. BArTHA): (a) The quantity PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) As' on of edible oils imported from 1 st January, 1.1.1988, the number of godowns with the 1987 to 31 st December, 1987 month-wise is Food Corporation of India, and hired taken given as under' together, was 1597 with a total storage capacity of 200.5 lakh tonnes. Month Quantity imported (in MTS) (Provisional) (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. Based on operational considerations. the Food Corpo- 1 2 ration of India, Central Warehousing Corpo- ration and sixteen State Warehousing Cor- January 171988 porations together are expected to augment the existing storage capacity further. It is February 51255 expected that a capacity of 8. 75 lakh tonnes in the current year and 8.00 lakh tonnes March 85565 during 1988-89 will be added for storage of foodgrains. April 54044

Import of Edible Oil May 86507

209. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: June 93070 SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: SHAI JITENDRA PRASADA: July 139301 SHRI JAGDISH AWASTHI: August 159106 Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- PLIES be pleased to state: September 204527 391 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Writtsn Answers 392 Growth Centres for Telecommunication 1 2 Facilities October 295680 210. SHRI E. AYYAPPU REDDY: Will November 211733 the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state:, December 169873 (a) whether any growth centres have (b) The names of the countries from been identified for industrial development which the edible oils are normally shipped and infrastructure for establishing telecom- are as fo 1I0ws : munication facilities; and

(b) if so, the details thereon? Oil Countries THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Soyabean USA, Brazil, Argentina VASANT SATHE): (a) and (b). Ministry of Oil and Europe Industry has identified growth centres for development of infrastructural facilities in Rapeseed Canada, Europe, China 'No Industry District'. A statement indicating Oil the list of such growth centres is enclosed.

Palm Oill Malaysia & Indonesia STATEMENT Palmolein Approved growth centres for development of infrastructural facilities in 'No Industry Dis- (c) State Trading Corporation is the tricts' canalising agency for importing edible oils. The total CIF value of imports from January Name of the Growth to December, 1987 is Rs. 775.73 crores State/Union Centre (Prov.) Territory & District (d) The central issue price at which imported edible oils are given to States/ 1 2 Union Territories for Public Distribution System are as follows : 1. RAJASTHAN

Rs. 11000/- PMT for bulk 1. Sirohi 1. Abu Road As. 125001- PMT for tins 2. Pindwara

2. Jaisalmer 3. Pokaran (e) The cost of importing, refining/tin- 4. Sanu ning and distribution of oils to StateslUnion Ramgarh Territories is on Government account. The State Trading Corporation retains a margin 3. Churu 5. Churu of 1°k of the landed cost of oil. Surplus or 6. Ratangarh deficit on edible oils operations accrue to Government. 4. Sarmar 7. Balotra 8. Barmer 393 Writt9n Answ91S PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Wrlttsn Answers 394

1 2 1 2

2. ORISSA 20. Mandls 26. Manheri

5. Balasora 9. Balasore 21. Jhabua 27. Meghnagar

6. Phulbani 10. Manumunda 22. Dhar 28. Pithampur

7. Bolangir 11. Bolangir 23. Panna 29. Purana

3. UTIAR PRADESH 24. Rajgarh 30. Pillukhedi

8. Banda 12. 8argarh 6. BIHAR

9. Jaunpur 13. Satrahiya 25. Bhojpur 31. Arrah

10. Jalaun 14. Orai 26. Khagaria 32. Khagaria

11. Fatepur 15. Malwan 27. Purnia 33. Purnia

12. Kanpur 16. Jainpur 28. Nalanda 34. Lakhrawan Oehat 29. Auran- 35. Jaisoria 13. Hamirpur 17. Sumerpur gabad

14. Sultanpur 18. Tikariya 7. MAHARASHTRA 19. Trisundi 30. Gadchi- 36. Kotgal 15. Tehri 20. Chauras roli Novegaon Garhwal Complex

16. Pauri 21. Kotdwar 8. WEST BENGAL Garhwal 31. Jalpaiguri 37. Raninagar 17. Chamoli 22. Tatasu Mazyadi 32. Cooch 38. Cooch Behar -Behar

4. KARNATAKA 33. Darjeeling 39. Bagdogra

18. 23. Bidar 34. Maida 40. Maida 24. Humnabad 35. Bankura 41. Bishnupur

5. MADHYA PRADESH 9. TRIPURA

19. Bhind 25. Malanpur 36. West 42. Joginder Tripura Nagar 395 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 396 Shortfall In Hydro-Electric Power 2 Production

37. North 43. Dharma- 211. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Will Tripura Nagar the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state:

44. Takma- (a) the total shortfall in the production of cherra hydroelectric power as against the installed capacity during the years 1986 and 1987: 10. NAGALAND (b) the State Electricity Boards which 38. Tuensan 45. Longleng were adversely affected on account of 46. Noklas drought in the production of hydroelectric power during the years 1986 and 1987; and

11. ARUNACHAL PRADESH (c) the hydroelectric power projects which were commissioned in the year 1987 39. Subansiri 47. Itanagar and the projects which are d~e for being commissioned in the year 1988:? 40. Slang 48. Pasighat THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 41. Kameng 49. Dirang DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA 42. Tirap 50. Mia ROHTAGI): (a) Generation from Hydro Elec- tric Power Station is not entirely related to 12. MIZORAM their installed capacity but is dependent upon the reservoir levels and irrigation re- 43. Aizawal 51. Luangmual quirements. The actual generation vis-a-vis the generation programme during 1986-87 and 1987-88 has been as follows :-

(In million units)

Generation Actual Shortfall progran7me generation

1986-87 57000 53764 3236

'1987-88 48157 40307 7850 (,\pril'87 to January'88)

(b) The required information is given in (c) The required information is given In Statement I below: the Statements II & III below: 397 Written Answers PHAlGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 398

STATEMENT-I

Board/Organisation having shortfall in hydel power generation vis·a·vis the target during 1986-87 and 1987-88 (upto January, 1988)

51. No. 1986·87 51. No. 1987-88 (upto Jan., 88)

1. Himachal Pradesh 1. Himachal Pradesh

2. Haryana 2. ' Rajasthan

3. Punjab 3. Uttar Pradesh

4. Gujarat 4. Gujarat

5. Maharashtra 5. Maharashtra

6. Maharashtra 6. Maharashtra (Pvt. Utilities) (Pvt. Utilities)

7. Andhra Pradesh 7. Madhya Pradesh

8. Karnataka 8. Andhra Pradesh

9. Kerala 9. Karnataka

10. Tamil Nadu 10. Kerala

11. West Bengal 11. Tamil Nadu

12. Meghalaya 12. Orissa

13. NEEPCO 13. West Bengal

14. Tripura 14. MEPCO

15. Manipur 15. Manipur

STA TEMENT-II

The hydro units commissioned during 1986-87

Name of the project State Unit No. Capacity (MV.,t)

1 2 3 4 ------Western Yamuna ·Haryana 2 8 399 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 400

1 2 3 4

Rongtong Himachal 1x2 1 Pradesh

Stakna Jammu & 1 2 Kashmir

Tillari Maharashtra 60

Panch Madhya Pradesh! 2 80 Maharashtra

BhiraTaii Race Maharashtra 2 40

Idukki St. II Kerala 3 130

Srisaifam Andhra Pradesh 6 110

Idamalayar Kerata 2 37.5

Pucha~pad Andhra Pradesh 1 9 "''"', .' , Srisailam Andhra Pradesh 7 110

Lower Mattur Tamil Nadu 6 15

Kadamparai Tamil Nadu 1 100

Maharani Tripura 1,2 1

Midampur Punjab 1

STATEMENT-III

Hydro units identified for commissioning during 1987-88

Name of the Project Stats Unit No. Capacity (MW)

1 2 3 4

Suratgarh Rajasthan 1&2 2x2

Mangrol RMC Rajasthan 1.2 & 3 3x2

Western Yamuna Canal Haryana 3&4 2x80 401 Written AnswelS PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) W,itt9n Answers 402

1 2 3 4

Andhra Himachal 1,2 & 3 3 x 5.65@ Pradesh

Rongtong Himachal 3&4 2 x 0.5@ Pradesh

Anpopgarh Ph-I Rajasthan 1&3 2 x 1.5@ 2 1.5

Anoopgarh Ph-II Rajasthan 4&5 2 x 1.5 @ 6 1.5

Stakna Jammu & 2 1 x2@ Kashmir

Salal N.H.P.C. 1,2 & 3 3 x 115 @

Bargi Madhya 1 & 2 2x 45 Pradesh

Bhlra Tail Race Maharashtra 1 40

Pawana Maharashtra 1 10

Vaitarnu Dam ~aharashtra 1 1.5@

Ukai LBC Gujarat 1 & 2 2x 2.5@

Pochampad Andhra Pradesh 2 9@ 3 9

Kadamparai Tamil Nadu 2 100@ 3&4 2 x 100

Lower Mettur Ph-' Tamil Nadu 1 1S@ 2 15

Lower Mettur Ph-II Tamil Nadu 1 15@ 2 15

Lower Mettur Tamil Nadu 5 15@

Lower Mettur Ph-IV Tamil Nadu 1 15

Kondah TamH Nadu 1 20 403 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 404

1 2 4

Upper Kalab Orissa 1 80@ 2 80

Kopili NEEPCO 1&2 2 x 50

@ : Unit commissioned/rolled upto

Supply of Essential Commodities at The prices of some key essential com- Subsidised Rates modities like rice, wheat, kerosene and soft coke supplied through the PDS are already 212. SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM: Will subsidised. At present there is no proposal the Ministerof FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES under the consideration of Union Depart- be pleased to state: ment of Civil Supplies to make available any additional essential commodity at sub- (a) whether purchaSing power of the sidised price. common people has been decreasing con- tinuously due to rise in prices of essential Diversion of Power from National commodities; Power Grid etc. to Kerala

(b) whether Government propose to 213. SHRI MULLAPALLY RAMA- supply essential commodities on subsidised CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of ENERGY rates so that the common people are not be pleased to state: directly affected by the rise in prices and all the commodities are easily made available (a) whether there is any proposal! to consumers; and scheme to divert power from the Ramagun- dam, Kalpakkam or Neyveli Power stations (c) if so, by what time and if not, the or from the National Power Grid to the State reasons therefor? of Kerala to meet the power shortage in that State; and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- (b) if so, the details thereof? PLIES (SHFH D.L. BAITHA): (a) to (c). In- crease in prices of essential commodities THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE has impact on common people. However, DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- efforts are being made by Goverlllment to TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA reduce the impact (i) by supplying larger ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). Kerala gets its share quantities of key essential commodities of power from Ramagundam STPS, MAPS, through the Public Distribution System (ii) 1nd NLC-1I TPS. Besides its allocated share, supply of cheaper grains to tribals and other Kerala is being provided assistance from the poorer sections of Society under National unallocated portion of the Central Stations Rural Employment Programme and Rural as well, to mitigate the power shortage can· Landless Employment Guarantee Pro- ditions in the State. to the extent possible. gramme and (iii) by taking various steps to During the period from April 1987to January. keep price increase of essential commodi- 1988, the actual supply to Kerala from Cen· tie9 within re()sonable limits. tral Stations VJ8S 918.3 Mil!ion Units. 405 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 406 STD facility at Mananthody In Wynad District of Kerala 1 2

214. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- 2. Trichur CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of COMMU- (Udyamperor, Ollur, NICATIONS be pleased to state: Aigappa Nagar, Cherpur)

(a) whether Government propose to 3. Palghat introduce S.T.D. facility at Manantrody in (Olavakoda) Wynad District of Ker~la; 4. Narrakkal (b) if so, when, it is likely to be intro- duced and if not, the reasons thereof; and 5. Alwaye

(c) whether Manantrody exchange will 6. Chalakudi be brought under the group dialing system; if so, when? 7. Chaughat (Curuvayur, THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND Kunnankulam) MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. 8. Angamally

(b) During 8 th Plan period. 9. Irinjalakuda (c) Subject to availability of transmis- sion media Manantrody is proposed to be 10. Idukki brought under the Group dialling scheme during the 7 th P1an. 11. Vaikom

I.S.D. facility in Kerala 12. Mannar

215. SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMA- 13. Parur CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of COMMU- NICATIONS be pleased to state the details 14. Chenganacherry of International Subscriber Dialling facility available in Kerala? 15. Kalady THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI 16. Cranganur VASANT SATHE): At present international dialling facility is available for 50 stations in 17. Kozhikode Kerala. A statement indicating their names is' given below. 18. Badagara STATEMENT 19. Cannanur Stations in Kerala State on ISO up to 15-2- (8allipatnum) 1988 1 2 20. Tirur KatpeUa 1. Ernakulam 21. lr,,("hin\ 407 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 408

1 2 1 2

22. Malappuram 43. Peraambavoor

23. Talliparamba 44.

24. Payyamur 45. Shertalai

25. Alathur 46. Alleppey

26. Kanhangad 47. Punalur

27. Ponnani 48. Vizhinjam

28. Manjeri 49. Pathnamthitta

29. Trivandrum 50.

30. Quilon Oil exploration contracts with Foreign (Chinnakada) Companies

31. Kottayam 216. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI (Gandhi Nagar. SHAKTAWAT: Kanjikuzhi) SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA:

32. Tiruvallor Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 33. Chinganur (a) whether the country has been expe- 34. Nayyattinkara riencing a sharp decline in the level of self sufficiency in indigenous oil production over 35. Kottarakara the last three years; (Mavolikorra) (b) whether more contracts for explora- 36. Palai tion in offshore blocks are expected to be signed with foreign oil companies and if so, 37. Adoor the details thereof;

38. Kundara (c) whether the contracts will also pro- vide for a framework for development of ga~ 39. Attingal resources; and

40. Chingavaram (d) if so. the period by which India wil achieve self sufficiency in oil and gas? 41. Kothamanglam THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THf 42. Muvattupuzha MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU 409 Written AnSW81S PHALGUNA4, 1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 410

RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) Due THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE to higher growth in consumption, the level of MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- self sufficiency in crude oil has come down RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUIT): (a) and from about 71 % in 1984-85 to about 66% in (b). A programme for introduction and , 1986-87. extension of LPG facilities as well as release or new LPG connections on priority basis in (b) Under the third rOlJnd of bidding, identified towns in the vicinity of forests has Govt. have so far signed contracts for five been undertaken in Rajasthan as a part of blocks with foreign oil companies OL t of the the endeavour to preserve forests. This has nine blocks for which bids were received. been done on the basis of recommendations Negotiations for the remaining blocks are in of a Committee set up by Government. The different stages of progress. Committee included a representative of the Government of Rajasthan. (c) Yes Sir. (c) and (d). The districts of Sarmer and (d) At present, requirement of gas is Jaisalmer being not on the fringes of forests, being met. As exploration for hydrocarbon is they were net included in the list drawn up by highly probablistic in nature, it is not possible the Government of Rajasthan for the pur- to indicate, with any degree of certainty, as to pose indicated in (a) above: when self-sufficiency in production of oil will be achieved. (e) There is no proposal cr scheme for declaration of any areas as desert areas for Priority In LPG connections In Desert purposes of release of LPG connections on Areas priority basis.

217. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: [ Translation] Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND N.J\TURAL GAS be pleased to state: Wheat to Rajastha~ on Per Capita Basis

(a) the names of districts in various 219. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: States where priority has been accorded in Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- sanctioning cooking gas connections by PLIES be pleased to state: declaring these districts a~ desert areas and the names of towns which were benefited; (a) whether it is a fact that there is great discontentment amongst the people for not (b) the criteria adopted in this regard; supplying wheat under public distribution system in proportion to the present popula- (c) whether the desert areas of Beumer tion in worst drought affected desert areas of and Jaisalmer districts in Rajasthan which Rajasthan; were badly affected by severe drought have not been included in this list so far; (b) whether it is also a fact that the Food Corporation of India is not allotting wheat te' (d) if so, the reasons therefor; and Rajasthan Government under public distri· bution systttm at the rate of ten kilogram pe (e) the time by which Barmar and Jais· head per month. even on the basis of 1981 a1mer districts will be declared as desert census; areas for according priority in sanctioning cooking gas connections to the consumers? (c) n so, the reasons thereof; and 411 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Written Answers 412 (d) the quantity of wheat allotted to (c) The allotments are made to the Rajasthan during the last three years to date, various States on a month to month basis, month-wise? taking into accoun.t the overall availability of stocks in the Central Pool, relative needs of Th~ DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the various States, market availability and MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- other related factors. These allotments are PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) No such only supplemental to open market availabil- reports have been brought to the notice of ity. Government.

(b) Allocations from the Central Pool (d) A Statement giving the information are not made on per capita basis. is given below. STATEMENT

Allotment of wheat to Rajasthan Government during Jan., 1985 to March, 1988 under Public Distribution System

(Figures in 'ODD' tonnes)

Month Allotment 1985 1986 1987 1988

January 28.0 50.0 60.0 120.0

February 28.0 50.0 60.0 130.0

March 28.0 50.0 60.0 100.0

April 28.0 60.0 60.0

May 28.0 60.0 60.0 .

June 28.0 60.0 60.0

July 28.0 60.0 60.0

August 28.0 60.0 40.0

September 28.0 60.0 100.0

October 28.0 60.0 60.0

November 50.0 60.0 80.0

Decembt)r 50.0 60.0 100.0

TOTAL 380.0 690.0 800.0 350.0 (upto March 8i 413 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 414

Financial Assistance for Construction Demand and Supply of Rice to Kerale of Godowns In Kerala 222. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: 220. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Will the SHRI T. BASHEER: Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be SHRI P.A. ANTONY: pleased to state: (a) whether the Kerala Civil Supplies Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP· Corporation had requested the Union Gov- PLIES be pleased to state: ernment to provide financial assistance to construct godowns in different parts of the (a) the total demand for rice in Kerala State; and per month under the public distribution sys- tem; (b) if so, the decision taken thereon? (b) the quantity supplied during the past THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE . six months, month-wise; MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL sup- PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) No, Sir. (c) whether there is a demand for the supply of more quantity of rice to Kerala; and (b) Does not arise. (d) if so, the details thereof and the Proposal to set up BHEL Unit In Kerala decision taken thereon?

221. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Will the , THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) and (b). A (a) whether the Bharat Heavy Electri- Statement indicating demand, allotment and cals Limited has a proposal to set up a unit in offtake of rice under public distribution sys- Kerala during the Seventh Five Year Plan; tem in respect of Kerala during the past six and months is given below:

(b) if so, the details thereof? (c) and (d). The Government of Kerala has been asking for higher allocation of rice. The allocations are, however, made taking THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI into account the overall availability of stocks J. VENGALA RAO): (a) No, Sir. in the Central Pool, relative needs of the varicus States, market availability and other (b) Does not arise. related factors.

STATEMENT

Demand, allotment and offtake of rice under Public Distribution System, in respect of Kerala from.August, 1987 to January, 1988

(In thousand tonnes)

Month Demand Allotment Offtake

1 2 3 4

August. 87 200.0 145.0 181.3 415 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 416

1 2 3 4

September, 87 200.0 165.0 132.4

October, 87 200.0 145.0 110.5

November, 87 200.0 145.0 126.5

December, 87 200.0 145.0 131.8

January, 88 200.0 145.0 144.2

Stagnation In Crude 011 output (b) Information is as under :-

223. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: Will the Year Gross Import3 Value in Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL of Crude oil (mt.) Rs. Crores GAS be pleased to state: 1984-85 13.64 3430 (a) whether Government have noted the stagnation trend in crude oil output from 1985-86 15.14 3687 the onshore and onshore areas during 1985 to 1987; 1986-87 15.53 2058

(b) how far this stagnation trend in 1987-88 18.34 3104 crude output results il' increasQ in aggregate (Projected) imports and avt}rage cost of crude to be imported during 1987-88 and 1988-89; and 1988-89 Import Plan not finalised

(c) the steps Government are taking to (c) At present productbn of natural gas tap new natural gas resources in the country exceeds current demand. Some of the to reduce the import of petroleum" products measures takenlbeing taken to increase the during 1988-89? use of natural gas are -

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (i) Increased substitution in place MINISTRY OF FETROLEUM AND NATU- of various petroleum products in RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUn): (a) Pro- production of fertilizer, power, duction of crude 011 in the country since petrochemicals, either as feed 1984-85 is as under :- stock or fuel or both.

YesI' Production in M. T. (ii) Supply of gas to domestic con- sumers, wherever possible, 1984-85 28.99 through pipeline network to sub- stitute LPG and Kerosene. 1985-86 30.17 (iii) Development of compressed 1988-87 30.50 natural gas (eNG) run vehicles " 417 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Written Answers 418

for substitution of diesel and (d) the details thereof? petrol in automotive sector. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Power Crisis In States TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). The power supply 224. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: position in the country during April, 1987- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to January, 1988 is given in the Statement state: below:

(a) whether power position in the coun- (c} and (d). Various measures being try in general and Uttar Pradesh, Orissa. taken to improve the availability of power Bihar and West Bengal in particular is very include expediting commissioning of new grim; capacity. optim urn utilisation of existing capacity, implementing short gestation proj- (b) whether these States are really ects, reducing transmission and distribution under severe power crisis; losses, implementation of energy conserva- tion and demand management measures (c) if so, the steps taken by Government and arranging transfer of energy from sur- to help these States from power crisis; and plus to deficit areas.

STATEMENT

Actual power supply position for April '87 - January 'BB

(Figures in MU net)

Region/State system April. 1!~B7· January, 1988

Requirement . A vaiJability Shortage %

1 2 3 4 5

NORTHERN REGION

Chandigarh 358 357 0.3%)

Delhi 5463 5371 92 1.7%

Haryana 5932 5128 804 13.6%

Himachal Pradesh 888 883 5 0.6%

Jammu & Kashmir 1871 1700 171 9.10/0

Punjab inel. N.F.F. 11080 10323 757 6.80/0

Rajasthan 7244 6380 864 11.90/0 419 Writtsn Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Writt9n Answers 420

1 2 3 4 5

Uttar Pradesh 19825 16483 3342 16.90/0

TOTAL (N.R.) 52661 46625 6036 11.5%

WESTERN REGION

Gujarat 14914 14245 669 4.5%

Madhya Pradesh 11527 11141 386 3.3%

Maharashtra 25232 23581 1651 6.5%

Goa 404 404 0 0.00/0

TOTAL (W.R.) 52077 49371 2706 5.2%

SOUTHERN REGION

Andhra Pradesh 13561 12144 1417 10.4%

Karnataka 12465 8667 3798 30.5%

Kerala 5085 4292 793 15.6%

Tamil Nadu 14165 12523 1642 11.6%

TOTAL (S.R.) 45276 37626 7650 16.9%

EASTERN REGION

Bihar 4275 3431 844 19.7%

D.V.e. 5915 5403 512 8.7%

Orissa 5715 4718 997 17.40/0

West Bengal 7135 6607 528 7.4%

TOTAL (E.R.) 23040 20159 2881 12.5%

NORTH-EASTERN REGION 1773 1691 82 4.6%

ALL INDIA 174827 155472 19355 11.1% 421 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 422

ONGC and 011 Share In the Revenue Power Project In Morena, Madhya Pradesh 225. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND 227. SHRIKAMMODllALJATAV: Will NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: the Ministerof ENERGY be pleased to state:

(a) whether the Oil and Natural Gas (a) whether a 810 Megawatt power Commission has decided that Oil India Ltd. project was sanctioned in Morena district in and ONGC must get a share of the revenue Madhya Pradesh during the last two yea~s; raised in the past; and and

(b) if so, the details in this· regard? (b) if so, the location of the project and the expenditure incurred on it so far and the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE further steps proposed to be taken in this MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- regard? RAL GAS (SHAI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- (b) Does not arise. TRY OF ENERGY (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) No, Sir. Price Increase of Imported Edible 011 (b) Does not arise. 226. SHRI SRIBALIAV PANIGRAHI : Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- Opening of Sub Post Offices In PLIES be pleased to state: Jhunjhunu District of Rajasthan

(a) whether Government have in- 228. SHRI MOHO. AYUB KHAN: Will creased the issue prices of imported edible the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be oils for the public distribution system; pleased to state:

(b) if so, to what extpnt; (a) the criteria for opening of sub post offices; (c) whether any concessions are given to the drought affected States; and (b) whether Government propose to open sub post offices in Jhunjhunu district of (d) if so, the details thereof? Rajasthan; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (c) if so, the number of sub post offices MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- proposed to be opened and the time by PUES (SHRI D. L. BAITHA): (a) and (b). The which these are likely to be opened? Central issue prices of imported edible oils for Public Distribution System have been increased by Rs. 2,000/- per MT w.e.f. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND 23.12.1987. MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRt VASANTSATHE): (a) The required informa- (c) No, Sir. tion is furnished in the statement below:

(d) Does not aries. (b) No, Sir. 'Not at present. 423 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 424

(c) Does not arise. (ii) The posts required for the open- ing of departmental sub offices STATEMENT under this scheme will be cre- ated with the approval of Secre- Norms for Opening of Sub-Post Offices tary in the Ministry of Finance (Department of Expenditure). I. Urban Areas (Non-Plan) (iii) Only proposals in which the (i) Initially the post office should be minimum anticipated work is 5 self-supporting but at the time of hours can be considered. the first annual review it should show 5% profit to be eligible for (iv) The permissible limits of loss wi" further retention. be Rs. 2400/- (in normal rural areas) and Rs. 48.00/- (in hilly, (ii) The minimum distance between backward and tribal areas) per two post offices is now raised to sub office per annum. 1.5 Kms in cities with a popula- tion of 20 lakhs and above and 2 Setting up of Wind and Solar Plants in Kms in other urban areas. Districts of Rajasthan

(iii) No extra departmental post of- 229. SHRI MOHO. AYUB KHAN: Will fices will be opened in Urhan the Ministerof ENERGY be pleased to state: areas. (a) the names of districts in Rajasthan (iv) Heads of Circles will have pow- where the plants under Wind and Solar ers to relax the distance condi- energy scheme have been set up; tion in 10% of the cases. (b) whether Sikar and Jhunjhunu in (v) In all cases, approval of Ministry Rajasthan are also covered by this scheme; of Finance will be obtained. and

(c) if not, the reasons therefor? II. Project Areas/Industrial Estates & Townships/Satellite townships/other areas THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND of developmental activity (PIan). MINISTER OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). The Depart- (i) The scheme will cover depart- ment of Non-Conventional Energy Sources mental sub offices to be set up in has undertaken programmes inter alia in the project areas, new industrial , areas of Solar Thermal, Solar Photovoltaics estates/townships satellite colo- and Wind Pumps in association with State nies developed in the periphery Government agencies. under which several of cities/urban agglomerations Solar Thermal 'Units, Solar Photovoltaic and other similar developments Power Units and Wind Pumps have been set which have come up in new up in severa' districts through out Rajasthan areas in pursuance of the plan State such as Alwar, Bharatpur, Jaipur, activities of state and Central Udaipur, Bikaner, Jaisalrr.er. Tonk, Srigan- Government departments and ganagar, Sikar, Jhunjhunu, Swaimadhopur, agencies. Chitorgarh, Doongargarh, Jhodele, Ajmer, 425 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 426

Jodhpur, Nagore, Bhilwara, Banswara, PLIES (SHRI D.L. BAITHA): (a) The respon- Barhmer, Churu, Dungarpur; Jalore, JhaJa- sibility of opening of fair price shops in their war, Pali, Kota. respective areas lies with the concerned State GovernmAnts/Union Territory Admini- Fair Price Shops In States and finan- strations. The Siates and UTs have been cial Assistance Provided advised from time to time to open additional fair price shops in the uncovered and inade- 230. SHRI RANJITSINGH quately covered areas to provide easy GAEKWAD: physical access to consumers. They have SHRI JAGDISH AWASTHI: also been advised to introduce mobile vans in rural, far-flung and tribal areas. The tar- Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- gets fixed by different States for opening of PLIES be pleased to state: fair price shops and the fair price shops actually opened during 1987-88 (upto De- (a) the number of new fair price shops cember, 1987) are indicated in the State- opened during 1987 and the new outlets ment below. proposed to be opened during 1988 to alle- viate the difficulties of the vulnerable section (b) The Central Government has a of the society, State-wise; and scheme for extending financial assistance to States/UTs for opening of mobile fair price (b) the total amount spent for the pur- shops for covering rural, remote, inacces- pose during 1987 and the financial allocation sible, far-flung and tribal areas. During the made for 1988? financial year 1987-88, Central assistance to the tune of As. 182.50 lakhs has been THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE given to some of the States/UTs for the MINISTRY OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUP- purchase of 73 mobile vans.

STATEMENT

Targ9ts and achievements regarding opening of new fair price shops during 1987-88 (April to March)

Code No. Name of the StatelU. T. Target Achievement upto December, 87

1 2 3 4

01 Andhra Pradesh 200 418

02. Arunachal Pradesh 40 33

03. Assam

04. Bihar 50 466

05. Gujarat 170 234 427 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23,1988 Wr/tt9n Answers 428

1 2 3 4

06. Goa 30 31

07. Haryana

08. Himachal Pradesh

09. Jammu & Kashmir 40 71

10. Karnataka 300 228

11. Kerala

12. Madhya Pradesh

13. Mah~lrashtra 375 476

14. Manipur 100 16

15. Meghalaya

16. Mizoram 18 42

17. Nagaland 280 29

18. Orissa 50 373

19. Punjab

20. Rajasthan 100 122

21. Sikkim 30 33

22. Tamil Nadu

23. Tripura 14 27

24. Uttar Pradesh 2000 3646

25. West Bengal 100 156

26. A & N Islands 5 8

27. Chandigarh 10 13

28. 0& N Haveli 2 2 429 Written Answers ,PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 430

1 2 3 4

29. Delhi 100 127

30. Daman & Diu 10 4

~1. Lakshadweep 1 1

32. Pondicherry 10 11

4035 6567

12.00 hrs. [English]

[ Translation] Please sit down.

( Interruptions) ( Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: I will listen to one [ Translation] Member from this side and one from that side. MR. SPEAKER: I have told you I shall listen to both sides by turn. Now please sit ( Interruptions) down. I shall listen to what you have to say. You first decide amongst yourself as to who MR. SPEAKER: Please listen to me. will speak from your side. , shall listen. Look, there is no point in doing like this. Both Please say what you want. the wings may please note. I can assure you that if some9ne has come with the sale ( Interruptions) intention of doing like this, then it is up to him. I can assure you this much that I intend to [English] have each of your pojnts discussed. MR. SPEAKER: Please, order now. (Inter" ,ptions) ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER. Look, the best thing would be that I shall listen to one hon. [ Translation] Member from this side and then one from that side. Please relax and be seated. MR. SPEAKER: I am telling you J shat! listen to what you want to say. Why are you ( Interruptions) doing like this?

MR. SPEAKER: I shall listen. I had [English] disallowed yours too. You also do not have any right. When I listen. I shall listen to you SHAI C. MADHAV REDOI (Adilabad): too. Why do you trouble me? Please take We have given an adjournment motion on your seats. the question of increasing the administered 431 Wrinen Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 . Written Answers 432

prices before the budget session. AN. HON. MEMBER: Ladies first.

MR. SPEAKER: I will take it into consid· MR. SPEAKER: I have already listened eration and give my ruling as I have always to you. Now I shall listen to her. Now one of done. They can do it but according to the you may speak. Who is going to speak? proper method, they should have come before the Parliament. SHRIMATI MANORAMA SINGH (Banka): Tile incident that took place in SHRI C. MADHAV REDOI: This is very Bihar involving some women is a matter of important. great shame. I want to know what action is being taken against the policemen who (Interruptions) misbehaved with the women of Parhia vil- lage in Deoghar district of Bihar. MR. SPEAKER: I will listen to them now. MR. SPEAKER: You givethis in writing. I shall immediately have it discussed.

( Interruptions) ( Interruptions)

[ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: You give it in writing and I shatl have it discussed. MR. SPEAKER: I am listening to you. Why are you doing this? [English]

SHRIMATI SUNOERWATI NAWAL PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Ra-· PRABHAKAR (Karol 8agh): You are listen· japur): It is a most serious thing. ing to him first. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat): . MR. SPEAKER: I am listening to you. I The administered prices were raised by- shall listen to you in a minute. Please be passing the Parliament. You had made seated. some disapproving remarks from the Chair last time when the prices were raised by- ( Interruptions) passing the Parliament. Now again, they have done the same thing. You don't allow a discussion on it. We have given adjourn- [English] ment motions.

MR. SPEAKER: Next is yours. I am just MR. SPEAKER: It is according to the coming to you. law. But according to the propriety, it should have come to Parliament. ( Interruptions) SHRI INORAJIT GUPTA: No, they [ Translation] can't go on doing like that every time.

Th is is not the proper way, I tell you, I am PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: It is not listening to you. I am ready to listen to you. according to the convention.

( 'ntetrUptions) SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: You are on 433 Written Answers PHAlGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 434 record. You had made some disapproving MR. SPEAKER: My ruling stands as comments earlier. ever. According to the propriety, it should be done through here but legally they can do it. ( Interruptions) ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I can't step it. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: No, SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: What is the use of this budget session and all that if they ( Interruptions) do like this? MR. SPEAKER: I cannot force any- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Priorto thing. the budget 2,200 crores have been 'im- posed. What is the sanctity of the budget? ( Interruptions)

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: What is the SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: You are sanctity of the Parliament? What is the sanc- the custodian of the rights of this House. We tity of the budget? have a Constitution.

SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN MR. SPEAKER: I have seen the (8udagara): Why have this farce? Constitution and according to the constitution I have given my ruling ... PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: "Vhy have this farce of the budget? ( Interruptions)

[ Translation] What can I do?

MR. SPEAKER: You get the law SHRI KP. UNNIKRISHNAN: You must changed. Then it will be all right. reassert yourself.

[English] MR. SPEAKER: I cannot. I am not a PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: You dictator. I am bound by the rules and laws of have given a ruling. this country. And the rules allow, I cannot check it. Propriety says. do like this. ( Interruptions) ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: My ruling stands the same. It never changes. PROF.MADHUDANDAVATE: Iwanta clarification about your observations. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Rs. 2220 crores have been" sought to be col- ( Interruptions) lected before the Budget. MR. SPEAKER: This;s not the first SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Are they time. behaving like deco its or what? They are going on dOing this behind the back of the SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: Why are you Partamant. disallowing the Adjournment Motton? 435 Nritten Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Written Answers 436

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: What is MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Acharia, that mat- the sanctity of your ruling? When you say ter cannot be put before the House in any there is impropriety and they don't listen why other way but you can discuss it now in the do you point only to the laws and rules? debate on the President's Address.

MR. SPEAKER: What can I do? You SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: No, Sir. change them then. This cannot be discussed in that.

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Con- ( Interruptions) ventions are as important as the rules. MR. SPEAKER: I cannot do it. Not al- MR. SPEAKER:- Propriety is something lowed else and rules and regulations are some- thing else. If propriety is followed, then well SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: (Panaji) and good. If they don't and if it is legal, the There has been a serious attack by Pakistani executive authority is something else which forces on our 'ndian border in the Poonch I cannot override. sector. Several solides have died in the encounter. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: The House must be allowed to express its opinion. [ Translation]

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: It is a MR. SPEAKER; You give it in writing. It question of morality. will be done. Why are you doing like this?

MR. SPEAKER: Morality cannot be [English] enforced by law. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: I have al- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Moral- ready given a Calling Attention Notice on this ity should be higher then law. Your ruling matter regarding the propriety should be higher than law. SHRI V. SOBHANAOREESWARA RAO (Vijayawada) We have given an Ad- MR. SPEAKER :Morality comes from journment Motion on the plight of farmers in -within and not from outside. I cannot force it. Andhra Pradesh. 16 farmers have died. Cotton growers committed suicide as they ( Interruptions) cannot repay the bank loan. There should be a discussion on it SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: (Nal- gonda) Just before the elections, they de- ( Interruptions) clared the whole state of Tripura as dis- turbed area. (Interruptions) SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Have you seen the observations made by Shri SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (8ankura) I Shakdher?. (Interruptions) .. This was never have given an Adjournment Motion on a done. The whole state state was declared as different subject. Just before the elCK:tions in disturbed area. Tripura the whole state was declared as a disturbed area and the army was deployed. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Each 437 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Written Answers 438

one of us has given Adjournment Motion on ( Interruptions) different subjects to focus attention of this House on major failures of the Government- [ Translation] lawyers strike, rise in prices, deployment of army in Tripura. On all these things, we have MR. SPEAKER: You do not let me given Adjournment Motions. speak.

SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOOW- [English] ALIA (Sangrur): The situation in Punjab also. PROF MADHU· DANDAVATE: You [ Translation] passed strictures against them that no levy should come before the Budget. They have MR. SPEAKER: It is up to you if you not listened to your ruling. Either you cen- want to do like this. I agree on all the issues. sure them or you allow us to censure them through an adjournment motion. [English] ( Interruptions) We will take all the subjects one by one and we will discuss. But not like this. [ Translation]

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Thert~. MR. SPEAKER: Listen to me, Profes- is an element of censure in the adjournment sor. I am bound by the rules. Whatever you motion. We want to censure the Govern- want within the rules I shall get it done. I shall ment on the very first day ... have it discussed.

(Interruptions) [English] I Trans/ation] I cannot over-ride the rules. MR. SPEAEKER: Please listen, Why do you talk so loudly? You will get a sore throat. ( Interruptions)

PROF.MADHU DANDAVATE: We [English] want to censure the Government.

The question is simple. Whey any question MR. SPEAKER: All the subjects that is slated for a discussion, it cannot be a you have given are slated for discussion one subject matter for an adjournment motion. by one and we are going to discuss them. We have slated for discussion all the sub- Therefore, there is no question I")f this. jects. We have got this Budget Session ...

( Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: What is your objection to our adjournment motion? SHRI K.P.UNNIKRISHNAN: You The Supreme Court is paralysed: the courts please repeat your ruling and censure them are paralysed. What is your objection to our or you allow us to cenr.iure them. That is the adjournment motion on lawyers' strike. only democratic and parliamentary method that we can adopt here. (lntern f I';) 439 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Papers Laid 440

[ Translation] give an adjournment motion.

MR. SPEAKER: Look, I have done this. ( interruptions) A calling attention is coming on this tomor- row or the day after tomorrow. MR. SPEAKER: We are going to dis- cuss it today. Now papers to be laid on the [English] Table.

There :s no question of adjournment motion on that.

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: You are tak- 12.12 hrs. ing away ·the I ights of the opposition. We want an adjournment motion.We have ·a PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE right to censure the Government through an adjournment motion. Why are you taking it [English] away? ProclamationJ in relation to State of (Interruptions) Tamil nadu and a copy of the report of Government of Tamil nadu to President MR. SPEAKER: I am giving you full authority, full power and full time to discuss THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS anything. (S. BUTA SINGH): I beg to lay on the Table

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: We want an adjournment motion. (1 ) (i) A copy of the Proclamation (Hindi and English versions) ( Interruption) dated the 30th January, 1988 issued by the President under [ Translation] article 356 of the Constitution in relation to the State of Tamil MR. SPEAKER: You are wasting your Nadu published in Notification time. No. G.S.R, 66(E) in Gazette of India dated the 30th January, (Interruptions) 1988, under article 356 (3) of the Constitution. [Eng/ish] (ii) A copy of the Order (Hindi and PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: The English versions) dated the 30th strike has been continuing for the last 29 January, 1988 made by the days and the judiciary is paralysed. President in pursuance of sub- clauses (i) of clause (c) of the (Interruptions) above proclamation published in Notification No. G.S.R. 67(E) in DR. S.JAGATHRAKSHAKAN: (Chen- Gazette of India dated the 30th galpattu): What the Congress has done in January. 1988. Tamil Nadu is unconstitutional and undemo- cratic. We want to discuss it and we have (2) A ropy of the report dated the 441 Papers Laid PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Papers Laid 442

29th January, 1988 of the gov- (Hindi and English versions) ernment of Tamil Nadu to the together with Audited Accounts President (Hindi and English of the Oil and Natural Gas versions). [Placed in Library. See Commission for the year 1986- No. LT. 5472/88] 87 and of its subsidiary viz. Hydrocarbons India Limited, Delhi Municipal Corporation (Second New Delhi for th~ year 1986-87 Amendment) Ordinance 1987 and Major under sub-section (3) of section port Trusts (Amendment) Ordinance 23 read with sub-section (4) of 1987 section 22 of the will and Natural Gas Commission Act, 1959. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF (II) A copy of the Review (Hindi and INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING English versions) by the Government on the (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT): I beg to lay on the working of the oil and Natural Gas Table a copy under article 123(2) (a) of the Commission for the year 1986 -87 and of its Constitution :- subsidiary viz. Hyd rocarbons IndIa Limited, New Delhi, for the year 1986- (i) The Delhi Municipal Corpora- 87.[Placed in Library See No tion (Second Amendment) L T 5474/88] Ordinance, 1987 (No.9 of 1987) promulated by the Wealth Tax (Amendment) Rules, 1988 President on the 24th Decem- and Notifications under the Finance ber. 1987. Act.1979 etc.

(ii) The Delhi Administration THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (Amendment) Ordinance, 1987 DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE IN THE (No. 10 of 1987) promulgated MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHAI by the President on the 24th A.K.PANJA): I beg to lay on the tabIA:- December, 1987 (1) A copy of the Wealth-tax (iii) The Major Port TrustE (Amend- (Amendment) Rules, 1 S8a ment Ordinance, 1988 (No.1 (Hindi and Engli!=;h version~) of 1988) promulgated by the Publj~hed in Notification" No. President on the 2Rth S.O. 109 (E) in Gazette of India January. 1988.[Placed in dated the 18th January. 1988. under sub section (4) of Section Library See No. L T54 73/8?] 46 of tht3 Wealth-tax Act, 1957 Annual Report with audited Accounts of [Placed in Library See No. L T and review on the working of Oil and 5475/88]

Natural Gas Commission for 19~6-B7 (2) A copy each of the following THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Notifications (H:"di and El.glish MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND versions) under Section 41 of the NATURAL GAS (SHRI BRAHM A DUTT):I Finance Act, 1979:- beg to lay on the Table:- (i) G.S.R 1009 (c::) published in (i) A cop:' of the Annual Report Gazette of India dated the 443 Papers Laid FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Papers Laid 444

24th December, 1987 to- . (iv) G.S.R.69(E) published in gether with an explanatory Gazette of India dated the Memorandum regarding ex- 29th January, 1988 together emption to His Excellency Dr. with an explanatory memo- Sayid Mohammad Najibullah, randum regard:ng exemption President of the Republic of to His Excellency Mr. J.R. Afghanistan and other mem- Jayewardene President of Sri bers of the delegation who Lanka and his wife and twenty visited India from 24th to 25th member party who visited December, 1987 from the India from the payment of for- payment cif foreign travel tax in eign travel tax in respect of respect of their international their international journey to journey to any place outside any place outside India at the India at the end of the visit. end of the visit [Placed Library See No. LT 5476/88] (ii) G.S.R. 16(E) published in Gazette of India dated the 8th (3) A copy each of the following January, 1988 together with Natifications (Hindi and English an explanatory memorandum versions) under section 159 of regarding exemption to His the Customs Act, 1962:- Excellency Mr. Giovanni Go- ria, Prime Minister of Italy and (i) G.S.R. 997(E) published in Mrs. Eugenia Goria and other Gazette of India dated the 21 st twenty members of t;,e dele- December, 1987togetherwith gation who visited India from an explanatory mer.lorandum 8th to 10th January, 1988 from regarding revised rate of ex- the payment of foreign travel change for conversion of ta~ in respect of their interna- Russian Rouble into Indian tional journey to any place currency or vice-versa in outside India at the end of the supersession of Notification visit. No. 348-Customs dated the 4th November, 1987. (iii) G.S.R 29(E) Published in Gazette of India dated the (ii) S.O.112S(E) published in 14th January, 1988 together Gaz8tte of India dated the with an explanatory memo- 281h December, 1987 to- randum regarding exemption gether with an explanatory to His Excellency Mr. Hun memorandum regarding re- Sen, the Prime Minister of vised rates of exchange for Kumpuchea, his wife, conversion a certain foreign daughter and eight member currencies into Indian cur- party who visited India from rency currency or vice-versa 12th to 14th January, 1988 in supersession of Notification from the payment of foreign No 329-(;ustoms dated the travel tax in respect of their 28th September, 1987. international journey to any place o'Jl~id9 India at the end (iii) The Baggage (Amendmdnt) of thp visit. rules, 1988 pubished in Notin- 445 Papers Laid Pt-'AlGUNA4. 1909 (SAKA) Papers Laid 446

cation No. G.S.R. 18(E) in to Notification No. 132-Cus- Gazette of India dated the 8th toms dated the 2nd July, 1980 January, 1988 together with so as to add one more product an explanatory memoran- of Nepalese origin tel the list of dum. items which qualify for prefer- ential entry into India in terms (iv) The Tourist Baggage of the Indo-Nepal Treaty of (Amendment) rules, 1988 Trade, 1978. pubHshed in Notification No. G.n.R. 18 (E) in Gazette of (viii) G.S.R. 64{E) published in India dated the 8th January, Gazette of India dated the 1988 together with an ex- 29th January, 1988 together planatory memorandum. with an explanatory memo- randum making certain (v) G.S.R 31(E) published in amendments to Notification Gazette of India dated the No. 13/81-Customs dated the 14th January, 1988 together 9th February, 1981 so as to with an explanatory memo- make it obligatory on the randum regarding exemption hundred per cent Export Ori- to goods specified in the noti- ented Undertakings to ob- fication when imported into serve the various conditions/ India for use in the manufac- criteria stipulated in the Import ture of jewellery for export out Policy. [Placed in Library 598 of India by or on behalf of a No.LT 5477/88] hundred per cent export ori- ented undertaking in the Spe- (4) A copy each of the following cial Export Oriented Complex Notifications (Hindi and English for the manufacture of jewell- versions) under Section 296 of ery at ,-Jhandew~lan. New the Income-tax Act, 1961;- Delhi, from tht:t whole of the ba!;,;c additional and auxiliary (i) The ~!1come-tax (Ninth duties of customs leviable Amendment) Rules, 1987 thereon. published in Notification No. S.0.1 (E) in Gazette of India (vi) The Baggage (Conditions of dated the 30th December, Exemption) amendment 1987. rules, 1988 published in Notifi- ca~ion No. G.S.R. 49 (E ) in (ii) The Income-tax (Amend- Gazette of India dated the 21 st ment) Rules, 1988 publi~hed January, 1988, together with in Notification No. S.0.125 (E) an explanatory memoran- in Gazette of India dated the dum. 21 st January, 1988.

(vii) G.S.R. 50(E) published in (iii) S.D. 1 07 published in Gazette Gazette of India dated the 21 st of India dated the 16th .Janu- January. 1988 together with ary, 1988 regarding exemp- an explanatory memorandum tion to Calcutta Pinjrapole making certain amendments Society under section 447 Papers Laid FEBRUARY 23, '988 Papers Laid 448

1 O(23C) (iv) of the Income-tax of India dated the- 16th Janu- Act, 1961 for the period cov- ary, 1988 regarding exemp- ered by the assessment years tion to 'Bangalore Stock Ex- 1985-86 to 1988-89. change Limited' under section 10 (23C) (iv) of the Income-tax (iv) S.0.1 08 published in Gazette Act, 1961 for the period cov- of India dated the 16th Janu- ered by the assessment years ary, 1988 regarding exemp- 1985-86 to 1988-89. tion to 'Joint Plant Committee' under section 10(23C) (iv) of (ix) S.0.113 published in the the Income-tax Act, 1962 for Gazette of India, dated the the period covered by the 16th January, 1988 regarding assessment year 1988-89. exemption to 'Madras Stock Exchange Limited' under sec- (v) S.0.1 09 published in Gazette tion 10(23C) (iv) of the In- of India dated the 16th Janu- come-tax Act. 1961 for the ary, 1988 regarding exemp- period covered by' the assess- tion to 'Seafarers' Welfare ment years 1985-86 to 1988- Fund Society Bombay' under 89, section 10 (23C) (iv) of the Income tax Act, 1962 for the (x) S.O. 114 published in Gazette period covered by the assess- 01 india dated, the 16th Janu- Inent year' 1987-88 and ary, 1988 regarding exemp- 1988-89, tion to 'Madras Stock Ex- change Limited ' Under sec- (vi) S.O. '110 published in Gazette tion 10(23C) (iv) of the In- of India dated the 16th Janu- come-tax Act, 1961 for the ary, 1988 regarding exemp- period covered by the assess- tion to 'The Ahmedabad m ent years 1 985-86 to 1 988- Share and Stock Brokers' 89. Association (Stock Ex- change) under section 10 (xi) S.0.115 published in Gazette (23C) (iv) of the Income-tax of India dated the 16th Janu- Act, 1961 for the period cov- ary 1988 regarding exemption ered by the assessment years to 'The Hyderabad Stock 1985-86 to 1988-89. Exchange Limited' under sec- tion 10 (23C) (iv) of the In- (vii) S.0.111 published in Gazette come-tax Act, 1961 for the of India dated the 16th Janu- period covered by the assess- ary, 1988 regarding exemp- ment years 1985-86 to 1988- tion to Madhya Pradesh Stock 89. Exchange under section 10 (23G) (iv) of the Income-tax (xii) S.0.1 16 published in Gazette Act, 1961 for the period cov- of India dated the 16th Janu- ered by the assessment years ary, 1988 regarding exemp- 1985-86 to 1988-89. tion to 'National Co-operative Development Corporation' (viii) S.0.112 published in Gazette under section 10(23C) (iv) of 449 Papers Laid PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Papers Laid 450·

the Income-tax Act, 1961 for (xvii) S.O. 121 published in Gazette the period covered by the of India dated the 16th Janu.. assessment year 1988-89. ary, 1988 regarding exemp- tion to 'Gujarat Water and Air Pollution Control Board, (xiii) S.O. 117 published in Gazette Gandhinagar' under section of india dated the 16th Janu- 1 O(23C) (iv) of the Income-tax ary, 1988 regarding exemp- Act, 1961 for the period cov- tion to 'Indian Cotton Mills ered by the assessment years Federation, Bombay', under 1985-86 to 1988-89. section 10 (23C) (iv) of the Income-tax Act, 1961 for the (xviii) S.O. 122 published in Gazette period covered by the assess- of India dated the 16th Janu- ment years 1985-86 to 1988- ary. 1988 regarding exemp- 89. tion to 'West Bengal Chief Minister. Relief Fund' under (xiv) S.O. 118 published in Gazette section 10(23C) (iv) of the of India dated the 16th Janu- Income-tax Act. 1961 for the ary, 1988 regarding exemp- period covered by the assess- tion to 'Homi Bhabha Fellow- ment years 1987-88 to 198B- ships Council, Bombay' under 89. section 10(23C) (iv) of the Income-tax Act, 1961 for the (xix) S.O. 123 published in Gazette period covered by the assess- of India dated the 16th Janu- ment years 1985-86 to 1988- ary, 1988 regarding exemp- 89. tion to 'Indian Diary Corpora- tion' under section 10(23C) (xv) S.O. 119 published in Gazette (iv) of the Incoma-tax Act, of India dated the 16th Janu- 1961 forthe period covered by ary, 1988 regarding exemp- the assessment years 1987- tion to 'The Kerala Labour 88 to 1988-89. Welfare Fund Board. Trivan- drum' under section 10(23C) (xx) S.O. 127 published in Gazette (iv) of the Income-tax Act, of India dated the 16th Janu- 1961 forthe period covered by ary, 1988 regarding exemp- the assessment years 1984- tion to 'National Welfare Furld 85 to 1988-89. for Sportspersons' under sec- tion 10(23C) (iv) of the tn- (xvi) S. O. 120 published in Gazette come-tax Act, 1961 for the of India dated the 16th Janu- period covered by the assess- ary. 1988 regarding exemp- ment years 1986-87 to 1988- tion to 'Bang;ya Sahitya 89. Parishad Calcutta' under sec- tion 10(23C) (iv) of the In- (xxi) S.O. 128 published in Gazette come-tax Act, 1961 for the of India dated the 16th Janu- period covered by the assess- ary, 1988 regarding exemp- ment years 1985-86 to 1988- tion to 'Atmavallabh Samaj 89. Utkarsh Trust. Bombay' under 451 Papers Laid FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Papers Laid 452

section 10(23C) (iv) of the with an explanatory memo- Income-tax Act, 1961 for the randum seeking to provid,e period covered by the assess- that in accordance with a ment years 1983-84 to 1988- general practice that was 89. prevalent at the relevant time, the excise duty on rubberised (xxii) S.O. 129 published in Gazette textile fabrics weighing not of India dated the 16th Janu- more than 1500 grams per ary. 1988 regarding exemp- square metre and in which tion to 'Federation of Indian rubber predominates in Chambers of Commerce & weight and falling under head- Industry,' New Delhi' under ing 59.05 of the Schedule to section 10(23C) (iv) of the the Central Excise Tariff Act. Income-tax Act. 1961 for the 1985 (5 of 1986), shall not be period covered by the assess- required to be paid during the "ment years 1988-89. period from 1 .3.1 986 to 14.1.1987. (xxiii) S.O. 130 published in Gazette of India dated the 16th Janu- (ii) G.S.R. 68 (E) published in ary, 1988 regarding exemp- Gazette of India dated the 1 st tion to 'Sardar Vallabhbhai February, 1988 together with Patel Memorial Society, an explanatory memorandum Ahmedabad' under section seeking to provide that in ac- 1 0(23C) (iv) of the Income-tax cordance with a general prac- Act, 1961 for the period cov- tice that was prevalent at the ered by the assessment years relevant time, the excise duty 1985-86 to 1988-89. on jute fibre, twist, yarn, thread, rope and twine falling (xxiv) S.D. 131 published in Gazette under Chapter 53 or 56 of the of India dated the 16th Janu- Schedule to the Central Ex- ary, 1988 regarding exemp- cise Tariff Act, 1985 (5 of tion to 'World Wildlife Fund- 1986) and cons'Jmed within India, Bombay' under section the factory in which it is pro- 1 O(23C) (iv) of the Income-tax duced for the manufacture of Act, 1961 for the period cov- jute products falling under ered by the assessment years Chapters 53, 56, or 63 of the 1988-89. [Placed in Library. said Schedule, shall not be See No. L T -5478/88] required to be paid during the period from 1 .3.1986 to (5) A copy each of the following 18.1.1987. [Pla

(i) G.S.R. 59 (E) published in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Gazette of Indio dated the DEPAR~ENT OF REVENUE IN THE 28th January. 1988 together MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI A.K. 453 Papers Laid PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) AnnOU~9mfJnt by ~ Speaker PANJA): On behalf of Shri Eduardo Faleiro, 87 and statemert showing reasons for r'f beg to lay on the Table- dalay In laying tb. papers

(1 ) A copy each of the following THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Notifications (Hindi and English DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- versions) under sub-section 3 of OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- section 15 of the Government TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): I beg,to Savings Banks Act, 1873:- lay on the Table-

(i) The Post Office Time Deposit (1 ) (i) A copy of the Annual Report (Second Amendment) Rules, (Hindi and English versions) 1987 published in Notification of the Khadi and Village Indus- No. G.S.A. 1005 (E) in Ga- tries Commission, Bombay, zette of India dated the 23rd for the year 1986-87 under December, 1987. sub-sectio,n (3) of Section 24 of the Khadi and Village Indus- (ii) The Post Office Recurring tries Commission Act, 1956. Deposit (First Amendment)" Rules, 1988 published in Noti- (ii) A statement (Hindi and Eng- fication No. G.S.R. 39 (E) lish versions) regarding Re· Gazette of India dated the view by the Government on 16th January, 1988 [Placed in the working of the Khadi and Library. See No. LT-5480/88] Village Industries Commis· sian, Bombay, for the year (2) A copy of the following Notifica- 1986-87. tions (Hindi and English ver- sions) under sub-section (3) of (2) A statement (Hindi and English section 12 of· the Government versions) showing reasons for Savings Certificates Act, 1959:- deJay in laying the papers men- tioned at (1) above. [Placed in (i) The Post Office Savings Cer- Library. See No. L T -5482/88] ti~icates (Amendment) Rules, 1987 published in Notirifaction No. G.S. R. 2 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 1 st January, 1988. ANNOUNCEMENT BY SPEAKER

(ii) The Nat.onal Savings Certifi- 12.14 hrs. cates (First Issue) Amend- ment Rules, 1987 published in [English] Notification No. G.S.R. 3(E) in Gazette of India dated the 1st MR. SPEAKER: In connection with the January, 1988. [Placed in discussion of the Statutory Resolution re- Library. See No. L T-5481 188] garding approval of the Proclamation issued by the President under Article 356 of the Annual Report of and a statement regard .. Constitution in relation to the State of Tamil Ing review on the working of Khadl and Nadu in the House today, copies of the Village Industries Commission for 1986- Proclamation Order issued in pursuance of 455 Announcement FEBRUARY 23, 1988 by Speaker 456

[Mr. Speaker] to discuss all the subjects from the very the Proclamation and the Governor's Report inception of this Session now. Whateve~" are available at the Publications Counter. subjects you want to discuss, we are going to discuss. Members may pleased collect copies thereof from the Publication Counter. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura): We want to censure the Government through the Adjournment Motion (Interrup- tions) [English) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Have SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMY (Coimba- you got any objection to our censuring the tore): We want the immediate dismissal of Govern ment. .... (Interruptions) .... We want the ·Speaker of Tamil Nadu, Shri Pandian. our right to censure the Government to be protected .... (/nterruptions) ..... On a number MR. SPEAKER: It is not in my power. It of issues we have given Adjournment Mo- is not in my authority. I cannot do anything. tion. The entire judiciary is paralysed. The sanctity of Budget is destroyed. In Tripura ( Interruptions) the military has been deployed without the concurrence of the Chief Election Commis- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Ra- sioner and the Chief Minister. japur): Do you think that there is not even a single issue for Adjournment Motion? The PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: 30 pages of entire judiciary is paralysed ...... (Interrup- Maulana Azad's book. 'India Wins Freedom' tions) should be got released.

The sanctity of the Budget is destroyed. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY (Nal- ( Interruptions) gonda): The farmers' problem should be discussed. Still you do not allow Adjournment Motion on any subject. (Interruptions)

[ Translation] SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: Do you want to r~move the concept of Adjournment Mo- PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla): tion from the Rules of Procedure? (Interrup- Mr. Speaker Sir, my point is that 30 pages of tions) the book written by Maulana Azad may be released. MR. SPEAKER: I have allowed so many discussions ..... [English] ( Interruptions) SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA RAO (Vijayawada): Sixteen farmers have SHRIINDRAJIT GUPTA: Out of these committed suicide. (Interruptions) issues, you do not consider anyone of them ' fit for an Adjournment Motion? MR. SPEAKER: Han. Members you have got every time and every MR. SPEAKER: When every subject is opportunity ... (lnterruptions) .. We are going coming up for discussion, there is no ques- 457 Assent tp Bills PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA) Assent to Bills 458

tion. Everything is coming for discussion 1987. under Rule 193. (3) The Finance (Amendment) BlII, SHRI MADHU DANDAVATE: The de- 1987. tails of Bofors scandal have come. (4) The High Court Judges (Condi- ( Interruptions) tions of Service) Amendment Bill, 1987. MR. SPEAKER: I am not concerned. I will give you every chance. Every subject will (5) The Equal Remuneration be discussed but if you want to waste the (Amendmqnt) Bill, 1987. time of the House, it s all right. (6) The Comptrol!er and Auditor- ( Interruptions) General's (Duties, Powers and Conditions of Service) Amend- SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI (Guwahati): ment Bill, 1987. You please listen to us for half a minute. (7) The Administrative Tribunals ( Interruptions) (Amendment) Bill, 1987.

DR. S. JAGATHRAKSHAKAN (Chen- (8) The AJllndia Council for Techni- galpattu): You are not allowing the Adjourn- cal Education Bill, 1987. ment Motion, so we are walking out in pro- test. (9) The Direct Tax Laws (Amend- ment), Bill, 1987. [Dr. S. Jagathrakshakan and some other hone Members then left the House.] 2. Sir, I also layonthe Table copies, duly authenticated by the Secretary-General of Rajya Sabha, of the following ten Bills passed by the Houses of Parliament during 12.20 hrs. the last session and assented to since a report was last made to the House on the 4th ASSENT TO BILLS December, 1987:-

[English] (1) The Shipping Development SECRETARY-GE NERAL: Sir, I lay on Fund Committee (Abolition) the Table the following nine Bills passed by Amendment Bill, 1987. the Houses of Parliament during the last session and assented to since a report was (2) The Constitution (Scheduled last made to the House on the 4th Decem- Tribes) Order (Amendment) Bill, ber, 1987:- 1987.

(1) The Metro Railways (Construc- (3) The Constitution (Fift~/-Eighth tion of works) Amendment Bill, Amendment) Bill, 1987. 1987. (4) The Auroville (Emergency Provi~ (2) The Appropriation (No.5) Bill, sions) Amendment Bill, 1987. 459 Assent to Bills FEBRUARY 23. 1988 Assent to Bills 460

[Secretary-General] MR. SPEAKER: No Adjournment Mo- (5) The Air (Prevention and Control tions, because they are not according to th6T ' of Pollution) Amendment Bill, rules. 1987. (Interruptions) (6) The National Housing Bank Bill, 1987. THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (S. BUTA SINGH): Sir hon. Members from (7) The Railway Claims Tribunal this side of the House just now have men- Bill,1987. tioned about a. very serious matter...... ( Interruptions) (8) The· Regional Rural Banks (Amendment) Bill, 1987. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Since you do not protect our rights to censure the (9) The Chandigarh (Delegation of Government, we are leaving the House. Powers) Bill. 1987. [At this stage Prof. Madhu Dandavat9 and (10) The Commission of Sati (Pre- other hon. Members left the House.] vention) Bill, 1987. 12.20 hrs.

S. BUTA SINGH: Sir, I was going to [English] respond to the han. Members from this side of the House ..... SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Why are you not allowing the Adjournment Motion? ( Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Because it is not ac- MR. SPEAKER: I will hear you from top cording to the rules. to bottom. (Interruptions)

(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I will hear you from beginning to end. No problem. Dineshji, I will PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Are you allow everything but according to rules. not going to allow Adjournment Motion on any urgent matter? The judiciary is paraly- sed. SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI (Guwahati): You can't allow a Bill unless the Government ( Interruptions) brings it. The IMOT Bill is pending. The new agitational programme ir coming up in As- MR. SPEAKER: Prof. Dandavate, we sam. The Government should say when have got rules and according to rules we are they are bringing this Bill. saying that we will be discussing everything. MR. SPEAKER: It will come in proper (Interruptions) time.

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: The SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: The Gov- Adjournment Motion is also according to the ernment should tell us whether they are Rules. bringing this Bill. 461 Assent to Bills PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Resignation by Membsr462

THE MINJSTER OF PARLIAMEN- are.rnaking it a property issue. That;s not the TARV AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- issue. FOHMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): Sir, there is every ( Interruptions) opportunity for discussion. The Government does not fight shy of discussion on any MR. SPEAKER: It is all right now. subject. The idea is not discussion. The idea is show. The idea is drama. The idea is [ Translation] theatricality. They have every opportunity for discussion. We are prepared to sit with them THE MINISYEA OF HOME AFFAIRS in the Business Advisory Committee and fix (S. J3UTA SINGH): Mr. Speaker, Sir, just the time for any discussion. The walk-out is now, the han. lady Members of this House a mere theatiricality, a political drama on the mentioned about a very tragic and shameful first day. (Interruptions) incident. I am particularly sorry to see that none of the opposition Members expressed PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (8aramula): any sympathy with the Harijan women who The thirty pages of the Maulana Azad's were raped. They did not care to listen to the Book, "India Wins Freedom" should be got lady Members and left the House instead. I released. would like to say in this House that very sOQn we are going to contact the Bihar Govern- MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Soz that is sub- .ment and dire~t thl:fm to award exemplary judice. I cannot do anything about that. punishment to the police officers involved in the case at the earliest and take most strin- PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: We are not gent measures so as to check recurrence of discussing the stay order of the court. But the such an atrocity elsewhere. Central Government can take urgent meas- ures to get the thirty pages released. MR. SPEAKER: If you remain firm and deal with these mischievous elements with a MR. SPEAKER:They cannot do any- heavy hand, the things will go on smoothly. thing. How can they do it when there is an Can you allow these wicked persons to in- injunction? dulge in such acts? ,

PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: He should say something on that. 12.22 hrs. MR. SPEAKER: How can say? Under what rule? Under what authority? RESIGNATION BY MEMBER

PROF. SAIFUDDIN Sal: The Govern- [English] ment of India can even go to the Court and get th~ stay vacated. MR. SPEAKER: I have to inform the House that I received a letter dated 12th MR. SPEAKER: The highest court is February, 1988 from Shri P.A. Sangma, an supreme. You are also a lawyer. elected Member from Tura constituency of Meghalaya, resigning his seat in Lok Sabha. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: The Central I have accepted his resignation with effect Government can take various measures. from the 16th February. 1988. (Interruptions) The heirs of Maulana Azad 463 P.U. CofJtmltt99 Repon FEBRUARY 23, 1988 R/y. Convention 464 Report Committee Report

[ Trans/ation] beg to present the Thirty-fifth Report (Hindi and English versions) of the Committee on DR. G.S. RAJHANS (Jhanjharpur): The Public Undertakings on Action Taken by i problem was sorted out last time with your Government on the recommendations con- intervention. 'Sansad Samachar' were tained in their Fourteenth Report on Air India being telecast at 7.30 p.m. for the last so - Working Results and Traffic Growth. many years ......

MR. SPEAKER: Why don't you come to me and tell me what you have to say? 12.24 1/2 hrs. ( Interruptions) RAILWAY CONVENTION COMMITTEE SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM (Gaya): Now 'Sansad Samachar' in Hindi are being Tenth Report te19c~st at 9.50 p.m. [English] DR. G.S. RAJHANS: Things were settled at your instance in the last se'ssion. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR (Hamirpur): I beg to present the Tenth Re- SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM: The tim- port (Hindi and English versions) of the ing for the telecast of 'Sansad Samachar' Railway Convention Committee on Rate of was 7.30 p.m. but the Government has now Dividend for the year 1988-89 and other changed the timing to 9.50 p. m. As the Ancillary Matters. people go to their beds by this time all over the country, it will amount to neglect of Hindi.

( Interruptions) 12.25 hrs. MR. SPEAKER: I have listened to what you have said. Now you take your seat. .MATTERS UNDER RULE 377

SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM: When [English] you have listened, you must find a way out. (I) Need to review the Drugs MR. SPEAKER: Now you sit down. Price Control Order, 1987

SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI (Ghosi): The 12.24 hrs. Kelkar Committee had recommended fa bring all those drugs which have a turnover COMMITIEE ON PUBLIC UNDERTAK- of more than Rs. 50 lakhs under the Price INGS Control Order. The list announced in Drugs Price Control Order, 1987 contains over 30 Thirty-fifth Report drug formulations which do not have a turn- over of Rs. 50 lakhs by one company or [English1 jointly by a number of companies. There are about 100 drugs having turnover between SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHAMAN: I two crores and 12 crores, and have been 465 Matters Und9r PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Ruls377 486 excluded from the Price Control Order. Most Apart from its economic' and ecological of these drugs are in monopoly position. value, Chilka with its vast expansion of blue Around 50 drugs which are wholly imported water touching the horizon, its co,lours in the country have been excluded from price changing with passing clouds and moving control. From the above, it will be seen that sun, its surface rippling with gentle breeze the objective, that indigenous production will from the Bay of Bengal, and also its islands be given a boost, has been completely ig- is a thing of beauty and a joy for everybody. nored and the aim to make medicines avail- But the joy will be shortlived, if the lake is not able to consumers at reasonable prices, de-silted and developedt'oon. would note be achieved. It is not known what is the justification of excluding from price Chilka, known as the queen of lakes, is control monopoly products being purchased one of Orissa's premier tourist centres. The by common man. I, therefore, request Gov- people of Orissa are very much concerned ernment to review the Drugs Price Control about its survival. and so, a Master Plan has Order, 1987 to remove these lacunae. been prepared for its development. But due to constraint of resources, the State Govern- 12.27 hrs. ment is not able to implement the Master Plan. As Chilka occupies a prominent place [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair] in the tourist map of India, I requestthe Union Government to bear the entire cOst of the (II) Need for the Union Govern- Master Plan and save the lake from ment to bear the cost c;f the extinction. Master Plan prepared by the ** Government of Orissa to ( Interruptions) save Chilka lake from sl"a- tion MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I have not allowed. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK (Cut- tack): It is a matter of great concern that (III) Need to provide more funds Asia's largest inland lake Chilka is in grave to Government of Maharash- danger. The lake has shrunk from 1165 tra for drinking water Kms. to 916 Kms. due to heavy siltation schemes increasing salinity and spreading of weeds. Now the channel to the Bay of Bengal is SHRIMATI USHA CHOUDHARY clogged. restricting the flow of sea water. (): As many as 5,687 villages from The thick layer of the dead weeds and silt on 47 ialukas in , , , the lake bed have turned Chilka shallow, and Wardha, Amravati, Chandrapur, Bhandara, its water marshy. , and Gadchiroli districts are esti- mated to haves been affected by drought in Chilka is an excellent breeding ground Maharashtra this year i.e. 1987-88, fourth for millions of local and migratory birds. With successive drought year. the first nip of winter, the migrants begin their spectacular descent on this lake. They On the basis of the final paisewari of sweep across the high mountains from as far kharif crops, it is found that 6,249 villages away as Siberia and Alma Ata. from 13 districts on the State are having

** Not recorded. 467 Matters Under FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Rule 377 468

[Shrimati Usha Chaudhary] needs, but nothing has been done. so far. paisQwari 50/60 paise or below. In the int6i'Qst of the railway passen .. Due to irregular and scanty rainfall dur- gers, it is necessary to increase the quota for ing the monsoon of 1987, a large number of reservation in second class, first class and villages in Maharashtra State are expected A. C. sleeper. I request the Honourable Rail- to face drinking water scarcity during sum- way Minister to lopk into this matter and do mer season of 1988. Though there has been the needful at the earliest. some improvement in the situation as a result of rains received during November, MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I would like to December, 1987. It ;s estimated 1hat 5,8'37 inform the House that in the case of matter villages are likely to face acute drinking under rule 377, only approved texts already water scarcity during the coming summer. given by the hon. members will go on record. If any han. member, while reading his text, The State Government has already deviates from the original text already given, approached the Government of India for and starts adding, then that added portion providing adequate central assistance for will not form part of the proceedings. undertaking various drought relief meas- ures. The Government of India has so far (v) Need to take quick remedial sanctioned Rs. 104.19 crores. This is not measures to avoid recurrence enough to meet the situation. Union Govern- of deva ~atlng floods In North ment should review the position again and Bihar grant more central assistance. DR. G.S. RAJHANS (Jhanjharpur): (iv) Need to Increase the quota for Last year, the whole of North Bihar, Particu- reservation all .. certain sta- larly the Mithila region, faced the worst type tions In Orissa on trains going of floods in the living memory. The devastat- towards Calcutta, Bombay ing floods were caused by the turbulent and DelhJ rivers which originate in Nepal.

DR. KRUPASINDHU 8HOI ((Sam- It is gratifying to note that Prime Minister balpur): The quota for reservation in second Shri Aajiv Gandhi not only visited the flood class, first class and air conditioned second hit areas of North BihJr promptly and as- class sleeper provided in some of the impor- suaged the feelings of the marooned people, tant trains is quite inadequate particularly at but he also took up the matter with the Jharauguda, SambalplH, Bolangir, Government of Nepal during the last SAARC Belpahar, Brajraj Nagar, Bargarh, Samra meeting at Kathmandu. and Rourkela Stations in Orissa. The quota provided at these stations for travel towards On the initiative of the Prime Minister, it Calcutta, Bombay and Delhi is thoroughly was resolved at Kathmandu to study the inadequate. Though railway administration problem indepth to find a lasting solution to has been requested by Government of the menace of recurring floods. It was felt Orissa and Members of Parliament from that if the rivers of Nepal are properly tamed, time to time to increase the quota in impor- not only the problem of floods would be tant trains like Gitanjali Express, Ahme- solved permanently but enormous electricity daba~ Express, Howrah-Bombay Mail, would be generated which would boost up Howrah-Bombay Express and Utkal Ex- the economic development of both Nepal press trains substantially to cater to the and 'North Bihar. 469 Matters Under PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Rule377 470 In this connection, it is heartening to Government should take immediate steps to note that the Government of India consti~ issue instructions to the banks not to auction tuted a committee on November 30, 1987, the Gold ornaments pledged by the growers which would, inter-alia consider the problem towards the loans received by them. The of floods due to the rivers flowing from Nepal Government should declare a moratorium into North Bihar. on the outstanding dues from the farmers to the financial institutions. The Government In view of last year's experience, it is should also bring cotton under the compre- requested that the above comm ittea be hensive crop insurance scheme to protect asked to submit its findings expeditiously the interests of the cotton growers as well as and remedial measures taken quickly to long range need for increased cotton pro- avoid the recurrence of divastating floods. duction for increased textiles exports.

In the mean time, immediate arrange- (vii) Need to take over Mavoor ments be made to monitor flood warnings Rayons Industry in Calicut from Nepal to North Bihar. If such warnings district of Kerala are received in time, colossal loss of life and property can be avoided. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS (Ma\l- elikara): Mavoor Rayons in Calicut District in The Government of India should grant a Kerala is not working for more than two substantial amount to the Government of years. Similarly some industries in Dalmia Bihar to enable the latter to plug the Nagar are closed for six years. These cia· breaches on Kamla Balan embankments on sures are on account of industrial policy. a warfooting. This has become necessary in Government should take steps to take ove-- view of the reason that the rains will start in these industries under Industries Develop- the hilly areas of Nepal in a couple of month ment and Regulation Act. which will again inundate the rivers of Mithila region. [ Trans/ation]

(vi) Need to bring Cotton under (viii) Need for early setting up of the Comprehensive Crop in- T.V. Relay Centres In hilly surance scheme regions of Uttar Pradesh

SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Almora); Mr. RAO (Vijayawada): The cotton grower in Deputy Speaker, Sir, hilly areas of Uttar Andhra Pradesh has become the victim of Pradesh have been totally neglected under American Boll worm pest which has been the Doordarshan Expansion Scheme. Only responsible for the drop in cotton output to 18 percent people ofthesa border hilly areas one third or one fourth of the normal yield. wiJl be covered under Doordarshan network During 1985-86 and 1984-85 also white fly by the end of the current plan, which ;s very meance had ruined the cotton growers. much on tne lower side if compared to other While the outstanding debt has been in- parts of the country. Thi~, is also against the creasing, the return from the farm is coming declared policy of the Central Government. down in respect of cotton in Andhra Pradesh. It is really sad that the Ministry is not taking . Unable to bear this situation nine farmers of any steps to set up Doordnrshan Relay whom three were women, all belonging to Centres which have already been sanc- Prakasam District have committed suicide in tioned for these areas. Doordarshan facili- first week of t his month. It is high tima that the ties are not available even to 0.1 per cent 471 St Resl. rll. App. FEBRUARY 23, 1988 - about 472 of Procl. Tamil Nadu

[Sh. Harish Rawat] complaint made by Thiru Tamilmani and people in tribal-dominated tehslls. There is adjourned the Houseto3.00 P.M. According widespread resentment among the people to the Governor. it was impropeion the part against the present situation. of the Speaker to have adjo'urned the House twice instead of taking up the vote of confi- Therefore. the Ministry should take dence. immediate steps to improve the situation. After the House was adjourned by the Speaker. rival group comprising Congress (I). A.I.A.D.M.K. (Jayalalitha faction), C.P.1. and C.P.M., etc. are reported to have held a 12.38 hr•• parallel session and elected Congress (I) Party member Thiru S. Sivaraman as STATUTORY RESOLUTION RE: APPRO- Speaker after dismissing the present VAL OF PROCLAMATION IN RELATION Speaker Thiru P .H. Pandian from his post. TO TAMIL NADU They also passed the following two resolu- tions:- [English] (i) Expression of no confidence in THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS Smt. Janaki Ramachandran's (SHRI SUrA SINGH): Sir, I 'rise to move: Government.

tlThat this House approves the Procla- (ii) Adjournment of the House sine mation issued by the President on 30th die. January, 1988 under Article 356 of the Constitution in relation to the State of The Governor felt that this led to a situation Tamil Nadu." where future business of the Legislature could not be conducted peacefully. The Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly was scheduled to meet on 28th January, When the Assembly met at 3.00 p.m., 1988 to vote on the confidence motion to be complete pandemonium prevailed in the moved on behalf of the Chief Minister Smt. House. Chairs, wrenched out makes, paper Janaki Ramachandran. The Governor of .weights, chappals flew across the House Tamil Nadu has reported that when the and the Members engaged in fisticuff lead- Assembly met at 10.00 hrs., the Speaker ing to injuries to some of them. The Governor announced that he had received a tele- has stated that the pandemonium which phonic message from five Congress (I) prevailed in the House at 12.00 hours and at members informing him about their resigna- 15.00 hours and the police intervention in- tions from the House and the Congress (I) side the House has been one of the most Party. When the members belonging to sordid chapters i.1 the annals of the Legisla- Congress (I) Party objected to this an- tive Assembly. nouncement, the Speaker adjourned the House to 12.00 hrs. A very large number of MLAs were forced to leave the Assembly Chamber leav- The Governor has further reported that ing only 110 out of 222 members present in when the House met at 12.00 hrs., the the Chamber. Once the members other than Speaker announced the decision to disqual- those belonging to AIADMK (Mrs. Janaki . ify six former Ministers on the basis of a Ramachandran faction) - DMK, Muslim 473 St. Res/. r9. App. PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) about 474 of Procl. Tamil Nadu league and Janata had left, the House nation. What is important is the Tamil issue, passed a vote of confidence in the Ministry the ethnic issue in Ceylon and the security headed by Mrs. Janaki Ramachandran. The forces in Ceylon require the whole-hearted Governor had reported that the manner in backing of the people of Tamil Nad,u, which which voting was conducted by AIADMK was ensured during MGR's life. But. for the Party casts serious doubts about its claim continued support for the Indo-Ceylon Ac- that it had been able to win the vote of cord, the Central Government and the lead- confidence as only 110 members out of 222 ership in Delhi ought to have called for not were present in the House. only the important group leaders in AIADMK, but it should have called for the other leaders The Governorfurther statedtr, 3.t atomp- also who were supporting the Indo-Sri- shere in the State had been fully vitiated and lankan Accord. What has happened now is there was political deadlock in the State. In the AIADMK has been split into two groups. view of the situation which had arisen, he The leadership at Delhi certainly had the was of the opinion that there was breakdown moral, spiritual, constitutional and pOlitical of constitutional machinery and a situation authority and it could have easily persuaded had arisen in which it would be impossible to them and prevented the split of the Anna carryon the Government in accordance with DMK. It is not only the AIADMK that has split, the provision of the Constitution. The Gover- the Congress itself has undergone a cata- nor. accordingly, recommended that- strophic change ..... ( Interruptions).

i) the Legislative Assembly may SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA be dissolved; and (Robertsganj): No. There is no split.

ii) President's rule imposed under SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: All right. Article 356 of the Constitution. You may console yourself by saying that there has been no change in the Tamil Nadu The Proclamation under Article 356 of the Congress. Constitution was issued on 30th January, 1988 and the Legislative Assembly of the SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM State was dissolved. (Solen): A few individuals going does not bring a change. With these words, Sir, I commend the Proclamation issued on 30 January, 1988 SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: You may under Article 356 of the Constitution in rela- thin so, but let us see what the electorates tion to the State of Tamil Nadu for appro'/al will reply. Actually we are not interested ..... of this august House. ( Interruptions).

SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY (Kurnoal): SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: The impoSition of President's rule in Tamil Then why are you mentioning it for no rhyme Nadu 'ihough it became absolutely neces- or reason? sary, is the most unfortunate and unwar- ranted constitutional Calamity. There was SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Because no wise guidance from Delhi. After the death the question which is at stake is the national of MGR it was absolutely necessary that the intsrest. The Indo-Srilankan Accoro is at continuity of the MGR Cabinet should be stake. Now this Accord will become the kept up not merely for the sake of the people apple of discord in Tamil Nadu. It is certainly of Tamil Nadu but for the sak i of the entire going to be an apple of discard. In the eiec- 475 St. Resl. re. App. FEBRUARY 23. 1988 about 476 of Procl. Tamil Nadu

[Sh. E. kAyyapu Reddy] SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: U ~ce~ tion platform. the Indo-Srilankan Accord is tainly not T elugu Oesam, It is the Central going to be the subject matter of criticism .... leadership, it is the Congress Party. There- ( /fJtsrroptions) fore. the responsibility for causing this split and for creating this sort of instability in Tamil SHAI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: No. Nadu has to be taken and has to be owned only by the Central Government. SHRI E. AYVAPU REDDY: You may say no but the role of the IPKF and the Indo- AN. HON. MEMBER: Why? Srilankan Accord and the ethnic issues are going to figure prom inantly in the elections ( Interruptions) that are going to come. In that sense and with that point in view, I am saying that the lead- SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: You had ership at Delhi should have been mOfe your own ambitions, you wanted to catch cautious and should have envisaged and power in Tamil Nadu, you wanted to bring should have gone into the possibilities of the Tamil Nadu under the Congress regime and repercussions of a split in AIADMK on the the personal ambitions of two Indo-Srilankan Accord. Therefore, the impo- politicians .... (/nterruptions). Please don't sition of the President's rule is not an ordi- compel me to tell the personal ambitions and nary Constitutional obligation which has the political ambitions of individuals which been exercised but this has been exercised the national interests have been subject to, without forethought, without wisdom and the over-zealous ambitions of a few individu- without taking into account the conse- als. Therefore, if only the Congress and the quences and the fall-out. Now, when are you leadership at the Centre had the good of the going to hold elections in Tamil Nadu? What people of Tamil Nadu at heart, especially in· is the role playQd by the Central leadership view of the delicate situation that is being and by the Congress leadership in this af- obtained in Ceylon and the number of con- fairs? People who were swearing by Rajiv straints and the number of harassments and Gandhi till day before yesterday are now at the number of difficulties which the IRKF is loggerheads. The only party which had facing in Ceylon, you should have prevented boycotted the President's Address yester- the imposition of President's Rule. There- day was the AIADMK, owing allegiance to fore, Sir, we are totally unhappy not because Mrs. MGR ...... ( Interruptions). we support one wing of the AIADMK against the other, but because we wanted that the SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU (Gobichetti- unity of the AIADMK should be kept up and palayam): Not Mrs. MGR, Mrs. Janaki if there was only a will on the part of the Prime Ramachand ran ..... (Interruptions). Minister, the unity would have been there and Tamil Nadu would not have been sub- ject to the present state of instability under SHRI E. AYYAPPU REDDY: All right, which it is no~ suffering. let us not quarrel about that. But this will show that instead of stabilising, unifying and SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM (Sa- harmonising the people of Tamil Nadu, we lem): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to sup- have unnecessarily divided them ...... port the Resolution to approve the Promul- (/nt9"uptions) . gation of Emergency in Tamil Nadu.

SHAI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: AN HON. MEMBER: Not Emerqency, Who has divided them? Sir. 477 St. Rest. reo App. PHAlGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) about 478 of Procl. Tamil Nadu

(Interruptions) the Speaker of the House. adjourned it twice . without giving any reason which has any SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: connection with adjourning the sitting of the Sorry ...... of President's Rule. I correct House. Flimsy grounds were made, some of myself. (Interruptions). which were untrue. But the whole purpose was obvious. It was to ensure that an excuse Sir, we in the Congress had very cate- could 'be found whereby those who did not gorically stated that we wanted stability in support the Government with was seeking Tamil Nadu. In fact, I understand that the the vote of confidence, would be physically hon. Prime Minister had requested both barred from entering the Assembly. Every groups, both factions of the Anna-DMK to possible item that could be used was used sink their differences, bury the hatchet and as a missile-chairs and mikes. Even foot- unite in the interest of stability in Tamil Nadu wears were used liberally. Several MLAs and in the interest of the nation. Unfortu- were injured. To go on record, I am nately it looks like they were two extremes to ashamed, as a Tamilian, to note that for the even come to an understanding between first time, in the annals of history. the police ·themselves, let alone unite. was brought in and directed to do a lathi charge inside the House, which was un· Sir, the accusations that my friend from heard of (Interruptions). And the Members of the other side has thrown without any sort of the Assembly who were neither expelled nor proof or basis and dis-regarding the public suspended were forcibly thrown out of the statements and the efforts of the hon. Prime Assembly. Goondas were allowed to enter Minister to say the least is unfortunate. Sir, with passes to create violence, not in the we are also very much aware (the Congress Visitors' Gallery but right i!", the well of the Party), that the split that took place in the House. Anna-OMK was not in the interest of the State of Tamil Nadu or in the interest of the Sir, Mr. M.G. Ramachandran was a nation. We have categorically gone on rec- man of the masses who held the affection of ord to state that we believe in undivided the people of Tamil Nadu very close to his Anna-OMK and we extend our support to the heart. He worked for the upliftme~t of the undivided Anna-OMK. We did everything masses of Tamil Nadu and those who seek possible to try and bring them together. Sir, in his name to remain in power. at le~st. are to say that the responsibility of the split lies expected not to bring down the prestige of with either the Central Government or the the State of Tamil Nadu. On the 28th of Congress ·Party is a total blatant untruth January, 1988, the only achievement that because if at all the split was encouraged by the Speaker of the Assembly atthat time, Mr. anybody, it was encouraged by certain Pandian and the Government that was in Opposition parties which was not the Con- power seeki.ng the vote of confidence, made gress in Tamil Nadu, for example, the OMK. was to bring down the prestige of the State of It is because it is the DMK which is benefited Tamil Nadu which has always been held by the instability in Tamil Nadu and not either throughout India and throughout the world at the Congress or even either faction of the a very high esteem. Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Anna-OMK. The most unfortunate day, the annals of history will establish that this Tamil Nadu has seen was the 28th of Janu- was the most unfortunate day the state of ary, 1989, when the Tamil Nadu Assembly Tamil Nadu saw. What is fascinating is. we met. For the first time, with no reasonabl&. have a Speaker today in Tamil Nadu who by rational excuse, when a vote of confidence resolution of a m~jority, was dismissed from was to be taken up on the floor of the House, his post by a no-oonfidence and another 479 St. Resl. reo App. FEBRUARY 23, 1988 about 480 of Procl. Tamil Nadu

[Sh. P.R. Kumaramangalam] opportunity, through you Sir, to urge, upon Speaker was elected. Unfortunately, even the Home Minister and the Central Govern- now under the President's rule, the Govern- ment to take immediate steps to have elec- ment of Tamil Nadu recognises ...... tions in Tamilnadu so that a popularly- elected Government could come to pow~r AN HON. MEMBER: Do you recognise as soon as possible? I am sure, neither the it? Congress Party nor the Central Government wants any unnecess~ry delay in this regard SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: I do since it was not our intention to have not know what the Central Government is Presindent's rule in Tamilnadu. It has been . doing. But we do, the Congressmen in Tamil imposed uJ.)On us by the factional fighting in Nadu do. the local party. I would like to say that the Accord would not be an apple of discord as SHRI K.R. NATARAJAN (Dindigul): Mr. my friends from the otherside was trying to Deputy-Speaker, Mr. Pandian as the point out. Maybe, Some parties would like to Speaker cannot be talked here. use the Sri Lankan Accord, the unfortunate happenings in Sri Lanka and the ethnic SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: He problem in Sri Lanka as a weapon. But I has been dealt even now as if he is the would only hope that good sense would Speaker of the dissolved Assembly. (Inter- prevail upon them to see that it is national ruptions) interest that they are playing around with; it is national integrity that they are playing Let me finish. You will have your time. around with. This is not a small issue of politics but the prestige of the whole nation is MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The subject- what they are playing around with. I would matter is of that. Already the Governor's like to take this opportunity say that the IPKF report is there. We cannot avoid that refer- is doing a Merculean task in Sri Lanka. There ence in that case. are various forces which are international in colour, which are trying to destroy the peace SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: Sir, in Sri Lanka and which are encouraging the most important fact is that it is a plea, a terrorists in Sri Lanka. We are seeing many request and a demand from the Tamilnadu an important personality in Sri Lanka being Congress and all the Congressmen of killed. This is not the time for any party which Tamilnadu thatthis person Mr. Pandian who believes in either national interest or atleast was removed from ihe Speakership, not be in peace to use this issue as a political issue. recognised as Speaker of the dissolved I do not know whether Telugu Desam were Assembly. The most important thing is to trying to point out to their friends that this is bring back stability immediately in an issue that can be used. But let me make Tamilnadu. There was no other optior., even it clear if that was the intention .... as per the han. Home Minister's statement on the floor of this House just now, for the (Interruptions) Central Government to do any anything other than imposition of President's rule. SHRt E. AYYAPU REDDY: Are you The incidents that led to it were unfortunate. quite sure that this issue will not be raised? I am sure, the House is unhappy about it. But Why do you want to ignore the realities? the need of the day immediately is to have a ( Interruptions) popularly-elected Government back in the seat of power in Tamilnadu. Could I use this SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: Mr. 481 St Resl. reo App... PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) about 482 of Proal. Tamil Nadu

Reddy, I ~ave not yielded to you. If I had elikara): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Reso- yielded, then you could have said some- lution now under discussion imposing thing. I have not yielded. I would request you Governor's tuie in Tamil Nadu opens our to sit down. You are much senior to me. I eyes to the political situation and principles would like to say, at the eng, that the inten- of democracy which are followed in this tion of Congress Party and all the Congress- country. The report placed by the Home men in Tamilnadu right from the beginning Minister shows that the Governor ha~ gone has been that there should be stability in into quite unnecessary things and made a Tamilnadu, progress in Tamilnadu and the report to the Central Government about the the popular policies of the then government state of affairs in Tamil Nadu. He takes note led by Shri M.G. Ramachandran be imple- of the fact that there was a meeting of the mented so that the upliftment of the masses legislators under the leadership of a particu- of Tamilnadu take place. Unfortunately due lar gentleman and they passed a resolution to certain faction fighting the situation has against the Speaker. come to this pass. The earlier Tamil Nadu comes back to popular Government, the First of alii would like to know if such a better it would be in the interest of the Tamil resolution passed by a group of persons Nadu and the better it will be in the interest of assembling in the corner of a house and the nation. Governor taking note of it and making It a point to impose Governor's rule in Tamil I would like to support the resolution to Nadu what would be the future of democracy approve the promulgation of the President's in our country! On an illegal and unlawful Rule in Tamil Nadu essentially because it action taken by any person the Governor is was a Hobson's choice. The Central Gov- not bound to take cognizance of that. So that ~ ernment had nootheroption atthat moment. action of the Governor in Tamil Nadu once There was no party, no group in the assem- again shows how Governors are used to bly which could have run the Government. dismiss the governments and impose Cen- Thank you. tral rule so as to take political advantage.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We adjourn Sir, here Congress is morally bound to for lunch to reassemble at 2.05 P.M. support AIADMK. When Janaki government was formed in Tamil Nadu she proved that 13.06 hrs. . 99 members are with her and the Congress has got 64 members. Congress had entered The Lok Sabha adjourned for Lunch till into an agreement with another political five minutes past Fourteen of the Clock party for maintaining a government. Natu- rally the majority was provod. They ought to The Lok Sabha fe-assembled after Lunch have supported but they waited for an oppor- at ten minutes past fourtsen of the clock. tunity to sabotage the government so as to make inroads into the political situation of rMR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chait1 Tamil Nadu. This was a vicious attempt on the part of the Central Government. They STATUTORY RESOLUTION RE: AP- have used the Governor to impose the PROVAL OF PROCLAMATION IN RELA- Governor's rule there. TION TO STATE OF TAMIL NADU All these things have happened, I thin~ [EngJ.ish] with the knowledge of the Prime Minister because at the time of death of MGR the SHAt THAMPAN THOMAS (Mav.. Prime Minister himself went to Tamil Nadu 483' ,St. ResL rtI. App. FEBRUARY 23, 1988 about 484 of Procl. Tamil Nadu' (Sh. Thampan Thomas] Nadu. The hon'ble members who spoke and adc;iressed the me,eting. The meeting earlier had also pointed this out. was held and from there the political strategy was formed. The people of Tamil Nadu have no confidence in the Congress and they are 14.1,4 hr•• very much aggrieved. It is acknowledged as a backward State. In many parts of Tamil {SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESWARI in the Nadu, the development, has not in- Chaiij creased ...... (Interruptions) .•. The Centre has discarded Tamil ,Nadu in extending the The COngress has no influence in Tamil help for development of the area. The people Nadu. Now they want to make inroads. They are against the Congress and the Congress have used this opportunity of splitting AI- rule for a long period. They have never ADMK. (Interruptions) Whatever Congress accepte~ Congress as a party of Tamil has got in Tamil Nadu is because of the unity Nadu ...... (/nterruptions) ...... None other made with AIADMK ... than the General Secretary of the Congress (1)·* visited Tamil Nadu ...... (lnterrup- SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU (Gobichetti- tions) ...... palayam): Sir ,I rise on a point of order. At the time of demise of my beloved leader MGR MR. CHAIRMAN: I will request the the Prime Minister, of course, came there in Hon'ble Member not to mention the name of order to pay his respects but he did not the persons who are not supposed to defend attend a meeting. What the hon. Member themselves on the floor of the House. says is that the attended a meeting and so all these problems came. It is not correct. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: I will say: MR. CHAIRMAN: There is no point of The Congress General Secretary was sent order. It is only a point of clarification. over to Tamil Nadu. , fear that what had happened in Tripura will repeat in Tamil SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV (Alwar)'lt is Nadu. There is a cause for the Contral a point of order on the point of disinforma- Government to declare Tamil Nadu as a tlon. disturbed area because Sri Lankan problem i,s a very live, problem amongst the Tamili- SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: What hap- ansa It is quite natural that Mr. Buta Singh pened in Tamil Nadu is that the Congress might come forward with a declaration sav- want to take adv~ntaga of the situation and ing that this is a 'troubled area' and para- to impose their party rule in that State using military forces will have 10 be sent over the this opportunity. They split the AIADMK and Tamil Nadu. A situation will be created lik6 used the Governor's office in a vicious the one ill Tripura and election will be held in manner to get a hold in Tamil Nadu. That is a rigged manner. And they want to impose my alleQation on this,subject. on them none ether than the /l.lCC General Socretary as a Chief Mini~ter and successor I also fear that what had happened in of MGR ...... (/nternlptions) ..... The people of Tripura. the same thing may be repeated in Tamil Nadu will not tolerate all this. Mr. Tamil Nadu after some time because the Kolandaivelu ;s becoming a party to that trick situation is very very dangerous in Tamil of the COngress ...... (/nterruptions) ... .

•• Not rec:orded. as ordered by the Chair6 495 St. Res/. 'fl. App! PHALGUNA 4, 1~09 ($AKA ) about 488 ofProcL TamUNadu

SHRi T. BASHEER (Chirayinkil): What repeat again. It won't look nica becaus~ he is is your strength? not yielding.

SHAt THAMPAN THOMAS: Whatever THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS may be our strength, whatever may be the (S. SUTA SINGH): Say that Janata is like fdtlowing, but I am telling you the truth. that in Telugu Desam. (Interruptions) ..... It is the experience in this country. All I am concerned with is about the SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: Democ- democracy; how the butchers of the democ- racy in the country is facing such a crisis and racy kill it and how th&y are using the office Tamil Nadu is one of the histories which has of the Governor to impose the Congress rule been revealed by the action of the Centra' in the various States. What happened to . Government using extraordinary powers ,f: Meghalaya? Mr. P .A. Sangma went there. the Constitution and imposing Governor's He had 23-member backing. Now there is a rule and using Governor as a tool to get into 19-member cabinet of the Congress (I). Out power in Tamil Nadu. The most manipulated of 30,19 are members of the way they have planned it at party level, at cabinet...... (Interruptions) ... They used the Governor's level and that is going on. It !s Governor in Andhra Pradesh. In Kerala, a revealed by the very facts of the Governor·~ Congress leader has been sent as a Gover- report itself. I was pointing out that tn~:. no"r. who was a Minister here and was also Governor making such a report, taking un· active in the party. Therefore, I submit that' necessary things into congnizance and n(A· have no belief in the Governors as they are ing all that saying such things have n"'I~' mere agents of the Central Government to paned-he ought not to have taken anything , impose their rule in the variolls States. That like that wnen there are 97 Members t~)! is the submission I make on thiS subject. Janaki Government, when Congrnss i~ bound to support ADMK whichever faction ( Interruptions) shows the majority ...... (Interruptions) .. Whatever it is Congress has tne moral m· PROF. P.J. KURIEN (ldukki)' 13 Coun- sponsibility to accept the majority but they d:.) cillors elected the Chairm an and 14 people not beheve in morality and thereforA, th~y did were on the other side. Let "18 ask you it. They created this crisis as th~y want to whether you can ask your Ministe~ to resign impose ArtIcle 356 of the ConstitutIOn. The from Kerala Government becau~e of this. Is same thing is being repeated eV9rywnere, this democracy? Let the hon. Member say not only in Tamil Nadu, but in other pl:ac,e:_.; whether his party would resign in the Kerala also, the Governors are being used as a t(jC,: Cabinet (Interruptions) of the Central Government and CapiLJ~~~ power. I fear the same thing, the S~in1() MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Kurian, he is not strateg~i which they adopted tn T ripum by yielding. Please resume your seat. Why did sending paramilitary 1Qrces, wiH be done In . you mention about that? He is on his legs. Tamil Nadu also. They wiff send them to You are not supposed to talk liko that. I et Tamil Nadu, win elections and comG h... ' him conclude. (Interruptions) power and they will have their own mf'~ there. All these things wilfhavetha blasstflg:: PROF. P.J. KUR.EN: You should ask of the Prime Minister. I would like to subm:t your Ministerto resign if you hav9 respect for thatthe Tamil Population. th*i whol~)of South democracy. India woufd revolt against this. When Ani.ah was the Chief Minister in Andhra Pradesh. MR. CHAIRMAN: I am asking you not to the people of Andhr. Pradesh revolted and 487 St ResL 'II. App. FEBRUARY 23, 1988 about 488 ofProcl. Tamil Nadu

[Sh. Thampan Thomas] issued by the Central Government, I fully showed the result. In Kerala also, when the support each and every action and say that Congress wanted to impose-l am sorry that everything is according to provisions of the I cannot mention the name-all people Constitution and no other thing was possible showed the result. In Tamil Nadu also the under the circumstances which existed at resutt will be shown. Mr. Subramanian has that time. resigned from TNCC against the Congress as also Sivaji Ganesan. Therefore, there is Those who have spoken from the oppo- no doubt that the people of South India are sition before me have not considered and capable to understand the vicious motives of taken into account the events which took Congress (I) and 10 give them a good reply in place in Tamil Nadu since the death of the elections and they will do so. then Chief Minister. "those are considered in the light of the provisions of the Another thing is that on the Sri Lanka Constitution, they would have been con- accord they wanted to derive political advan- vinced that the only solution possible under lage at this juncture. I have toured through- that situation was this proclamation. out Tamil Nadu and I have seen what the precarious position of Tamil Nadu people is. I would only draw the attention of this People are suffering there and there is no- House to the various events which took body to look after them and now the Centre place. Firstly, Tamil Nadu Assembly con- wants to rule this State. I would liketotell Shri sists of 234 members, out of which AIDMK Kolandaivelu that they are going to be eaten has 131 members. There were 12 vacancies away by these sarpas. With these words, I and therefore, for the purpose of forming a conclude. Government, 112 supporters were neces- sary for the one who would stake his or her SHRI SHARAD DIGHE (Bombay North claim for forming a Government in the State. Central): Madam Chairman, I rise to support What did the Governor do? The Governor the Statutory Resolution moved by the also followed very cleai-cut procedure under Home Minister for approving the proclama- the Constitution. Ninety-seven MLAs were tion issued by the President on the 30th backing Janaki Government and. therefore, January, 1988... the Governor physically verified all the 97 AIDMK members. who are supporting. On The han. Member, who spoke before 2nd January he interviewed each and every me has brought many extraneous and irrele- Member. Then he individually asked vant matters before this House which had whether they were coerced in supporting nothing to do with the Proclamation. When this Government and this var;fication lasted the Proclamation relates to Tamil Nadu, he forfour hours. After this varification, hecame spoke about Tripura. Meghalaya and trav- to the conclusion that Mrs. Janaki would be elled all over India. That only shows that able to form a Govl?rnment and, therefore. when soma avent takes place in India, the she was summoned to form the Govern- opposition wants to derive political advan- ment. This is not a new or strange procedure tage of avery small event that takes place at all. It has been followed several times in even. though it may be strictly according to India in several states and the Sarkaria the Constitution. Com mission has also referred to several instances of this kind. and he has The manner in which the Governor of stated ..... (Interruptions) Tamil Nadu had handled the situation and the ultimate proclamation that has been We will see everything. The whole re- 489 St. RBSI. ffl. App. PHALGUNA4, 1909l(~A~_' »bout 490 of ProcL '1,.;' ''\ \ ~\ ~. . TamiI,Nadu port is going to be discussed in this House tarily leav.s the party or (iI) 'he .violates or and we shall then express our opinion on it. votes in breach of the whip is,ued by his The Governor has employed various ways party. Neither of the things h~ happened. to determine which party or group is likely to They had not Jef1 the party. There was noth- command a majority in the legislative As- ing 10 shoW' that they had teft the party sembly. Some have relied only on the list of voluntarily. There was no question of voting , ' supporters produced as in Bihar in June at all. So,' on what basis they were disquali- 1978 when the Congress Party was called fied, one does not know. It is not etear from upon to form a Government. In some cases the Reports which appeared in the Press. physical varification by counting the heads So, at 12.00 o'clock he announced that he was done as in the case of Gujarat in 1971 has disqualified some members and then then Uttar Pradesh in 1967, in Rajasthan in again he adjourned the House till 3.00 1967, etc. Several states are there. Sum- o'clock. For what purpose these 3 hours moning the simple largest party in the House were given we do not know. As I do not to form a Government is not new to this approve the action of the Speaker, I would House at all. Even after the fall of Janata not also equally approve of' the parallel Government, Shri Yashvant Rao Chauhan House which was held. For the removal of was summoned as the Opposition leader Speaker. there are provisions in the and as the leader of the single largest party Constitution. There are Articles in the in the House to form the Government. when Constitution. Then there are rules. You he declined then only Shri Charan Singh was cannot remove the Speaker by just holding a summoned to form a Ministry. When he was meeting. YOll have gotto move a motion and assured of every support from the Con- then after 14 days the motion'is to be passed. gress-I party then only he was allowed to The motion is put before tne House andthen form the Government. Here also 97 MLAs it is discussed. You cannot just remove the were backing that Government. Therefore, Speaker. So, it was not constitutional at all. Mrs. Janaki was summoned to form the The holding of a parallel House was not Government and prove her majority on the constitutional at all. The removal of the floor of the House within the three weeks. Speaker was also not constitutional. My Accordingly, within 3 weeks, on 28th Janu- learned colleague Shri Thomas has just now ary the meeting was called and what hap- said that the Governor has taken a note of it. pened in the Assembly was also very impor- No. The Governor has not taken note of it. tanto On the contrary it a clearfrom what the Home Minister read out in the morning. from that it Now, 1would not for a moment approve is clear that the Governor felt that this was the actions of the Spf"aker in that Assembly unwarranted, this that is, after the House as far as that day wa ,concerned. When the was adjourned by the Speaker, the r;val Assembly met he i.,formed, without any group comprising of Congress (I), CPI, CPM rhyme or reason. that certain members from etc .• reported to have held a parallel Session Congress Party haveresigned and then and elected Congress (I) Party Member suddenly he adjourned the House till 12 Thiru S.Sivaraman. as Speaker after dis- O'clock. There was no reason to adjourned missing the present Speaker Thiru P.H. the House at that time. When the House met Pandiyan from the post. They also passed again at 12.00 o'clock without any thing on the following two resolutions-expression of reoord, he disqualified some members un- no confidence in Smt. Janaki der the anti-defection law. Now, the Anti- Ramachandran's Government and adjourn- Defection law says that only in two instances ment of the House sine di9. The Governor a Member can be disqualified; (i) if h8 vatun- feft that this was unwarranted and that this let 491 St. Res/. reo App. FEBRUARY 23, 1988 about 492 of Procl. _ Tamil Nadu

[She Sharad Dighe] There was a break-down of the constitu- to a situation where future business of the tional machinery. It was a situation where It Legislature could not be conducted peace- was impossible to carry on the Government fully. This is the statement which the Home in accordance with the provisions of the Minister made in the morning. So, there is Constitution. This situation had definitely nothing to show that the Governor approved arisen. Therefore, the Governor was right in all these things. making a report to the Central Government that this was the position and therefore the ( Interruptions) proclamation should b~ issued.

OR. S. JAGATHRAKSHAKAN (Chen- I say that there was no alternative be- galpatu): You tell me how many members fore the Central Government but to issue this had elected the Congress (I) Speaker? proclamation for dissolving the Assembly. (Interruptions) Will you allow me here in the Parliament to occupy the Speaker's Chair .Now, some han. Members have also during lunch time? Will you say. Mr. stated that Sii Lanka Accord is important and Jagathrakshakan is the Speaker of Lok _ from that point of viewthe Central leadership Sabha? should have seen that AIADMK should be united etc., etc. I do not know whether Tel· SHRI P.KOLANDAIVELU: Yes, in the ugu Desam Members seriously suggest that lunch time you can occupy!! if there is dissension in the regiona1 party, the Congress party should interfere and do ( Interruptions) something in the matter.

DR. S. JAGATHRAKS~KAN: Shri SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: You are Sivaraman-the Congressman-had done the talking about Janaki Government. The same thing. Governor should have called the Congress Party and ascertained whether the Con- MR. CHAIRMAN: He is not yielding. gress Party will be formally supporting You cannot get up and talk like this. When Janaki and after getting...... (Interrup- your turn comes, you can speak. _ tions)

SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: I have already S. BUTA SINGH: You please ensure said I do not approve of the parallel Session. that there is order in the House. 1 do not approve of the election of the new :3peaker and the removal of the Speaker SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: As I read from without following the procedure, as laid the newspaper report, the Congr~ss (I) Party down in the Constitution. So, all that was had assured the support but when the Con- unconstitutional. Thereafter when the gress Party found that horse trading was " House met. there was so much pandemo- going on, they refused to support the Janaki nium. many unprecedented things had hap- Government. That was also politically cor- pened which had never happened before- rect. namoly tho police came and made a lathi charge in tho Assembly itself. ::;0, when all SHFn E. AYY;\PU REDDY: What is these things had happened. how can you Sanqrna .,_;nir"H) in MeghalatA&? Is he not say that the Govornment co.n be carried on dOln~J hnn:,Q fratiinu (' according \() the Con~tlttJtk)il? It was quite daar that Govornment could not be run. SHHI SH;\F,AD DIGHE: Therefore it 493 St Rest r9. App. PHAlGUNA 4.1909 (SAKA) about 494 of Procl. TsmilNadu was absolutely politically and constitution- it and put their seal of approval on this ally correct to say that we will support and we Accord, and approve the responsible action will see. And Congress Party according to which the Congress Party has taken, and me made strenuous efforts to see that AI· which the Central Government has taken, by ADMK comes together and they are able to issuing this proclamation. form a Government, and they are able to run the Tamil Nadu Government. That was the With these words, I support this procla- genuine desire of the Congress Party, and mation. they made serious efforts in that direction. When they found that their own Members SHRi P. KOLANDAIVElU (Gobichetti" were sought to be purchased, there was no palayam): Madam Chairman: I whole-heart- other alternative but to withdraw the support edly support the President's rulo which has to any Government which was trying to do it. been imposed in Tamil Nadu. (Interruptions)

Therefore, my submission is that the MR. CHAIRMAN: Don't interrupt him. Congress Party had acted very responsibly, let him speak. and as an a.l~lndia party having futl respon- sibility forthe whole country, and having fully SHRI P.KOLANDAIVELU: As provided realized the implications of the fait of Gov- for in article 356, a situation has arisen there ernment in Tamil Nadu. So: this was the last in which the Government of the State Cannot resort. The Congress Party tried to see that be carried on in accordance with the provi~ there was a Government, there was a Gov- sions of this Constitution. That is why in the ernment by the elected Representatives, right time, in the right mannerGovernmentof and that they run the Government so that the India came to the rescue of the people of Sri Lanka Accord also would get good sup· Tamil Nadu, and President's rule was im- port from if. posed. This imposition of President's rule In Tamil Nadu was wholly welcomed by the I also ask now: when ultimately the people of Tamil Nadu ... (Interruptions) elected representatives do not see their responsibility, what is the alternative? Go to DR. S. JAGATHRAKSHAKAN : No. the people. That is the only a1temativ9. Therefore, the AssembJy has been dis- PROF MADHU DANDAVATE: (Ra- solved. We will go to the people, and ulti- japur): That is welcomed only by the Con .. mately the people of Tamil Nadu wiU decide gressmen~ the fate of the Indo-Sri Lankan Accord ... ( Interruptions} ( Interruptions)

I am sure that the people have already SHRI P.KOLANDAIVELU: The main accepted that Accord, and there will be no supporter of the Janaki faction, one MR.. trouble as far as that Accord is concerned. R.M. Veerappan has stat9d to the Prass ... (Intsrruptions) SHRI N.V.N. SOMU (Madras North): More than 50 lakh people participated inth" DR. S. JAGATHRAKSHAKAN: He is hunger strike against the IPKF actions in Sri not a member of this Houss. ta·nka (Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: I have told him not :0 SHRI SHARAO OIGHE: The wise mention names, but try as tar as posstb1c V people of Tamil Nadu will ultimately approve avoid giving names. 4$5 St. ResL 1'8. App. .FEBRUARY 23, 1988 about 496 of Procl. TamilNadu

DR. S. JAGATHRAKSHAKAN: He ;s not a MR. CHAIRMAN: I told you not to inter- member hera. So, please remove his name. rupt him when he is speaking. Unless he yields, don't interrupt him. He is not yielding. Please don't interrupt him. You resume your ( Interruptions) seat. If you have got anything to say, you first take the perm ission from the Chair. PROF MADHU DANDAVATE (Ra- japur): Don't name him, only describe him. ( Interruptions) (Interruptions). DR. S. JAGATHRAKSHAKAN;He is MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Kuppuswamy, using his name (Interruptions) please resume your seat. (Interruptions). MR. CHAIRMAN: You take permission Mr. Kuppuswamy" if you behave like from the Chair first. I cannot allow you like this, I am not going to call you. Your name is this. You cannot get up and speak like this here. If you behave like this, I am not going ( Interruptions) to call you. (Interruptions) Please resume your seats. When the Chairman is on her PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Your legs, you must resume your .seats. Nobody directive is not to refer to names. should get up when the Chairman is on her legs, Please resume your seats. SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: One of the main supporters of the Janaki faction, the Mr. Kuppuswamy, if you behave like former Minister, told press about the imposi- this, I am not going to call you. Don't inter- tion of the President's Rule- "all for good" rupt. When I am on my legs, please resume This had been published in almost all the your seat. papers-"all for good" Only for a good thing or a good cause, the President's Rule came in ( Interruptions) Tamil Nadu.

MR. CHAIRMAN: First of all, please SHRI N. SUNDARARAJ (Pudukkottai): resume your seat. All for good is not the main thing.

( Interruptions) ( Interruptions)

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: We MR. CHAIRMAN : How many times request S. Buta Singhji not to call the police. should I told you to resume your seat?

( Interruptions) ( Interruptions)

THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS MR. CHAIRMAN: Don't record what- (S. SUTA SINGH): There is no Pandian. ever he says Don't get up like this, Unless he takes permission from me, don't record (Interruptions) whatever he says.

SHRI P.KOLANDAIVELU: One of the ( Interruptions) .* main supporters of theJanaki faction told the press .••. ( Interruptions) SHRI. P.KOLANOAIVELU: Our be-

•• Not recorded. 497 St. Resl. reo App. PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) . about 498 dProcl. Tamll'Nadu loved Chief Minister, the charismaticfeader~ I requested our hon. Prime Minister to =ome MGR, wanted to keep the party united. to the rescue of our ADMK Party in order.,. S99 that it was not divided., Only for this PROF. MAOHU DANDAVATE: He is purpose, I requested our han. Prime.Minis .. another charismatic leader. ter. Our hen. Prime Mihister.also mad. a' statement that the party must be united.. and SHAI P.KOLANDAIVElU: We want to the Congress would support only for. unIted keep the party united. Even we suggested ADMK. not divided AOMK. It was notthatthe some formula to keep the party united. In Congress.wanted to rule Tam" Nadu that aU order to keep the party undivided. a sugges· these developments tOok 'place there. It is tion was made to continue the status quo. not at all correct. Supposing anybody says. that I think it means that they want to throw ( Interruptions) mud on the other side that is on oong.... . side. That is why they are saying, Hke 'that. MR. CHAIRMAN: Why do you get up Actually our hon. Prime Minister~ even:OUf like this? You have some patience. You will hon Minister for Home' affairs Shti Buta . also get a chance to speak. Singh, and other Ministers,wholeheartadly suggested the very same formula that we SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: That was have suggested. the formula suggested by us the former Minister, those who were supporting Janaki PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: 'Why faction, but they were not agreeable. you say even Bula Singh?

( Interruptions) SHRI P.KOLANOAIVELU: Actually we were having a wonderful and fantastic SHRI N.V.N.SOMU: This thing had Speaker and nowhere in the world we havs happened at the instance of the Congress. seen such a Speaker. One Mr. Pandlan was the Speaker. SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: Why do you say like this? You do not know what is ( Interruptions) politics. Why do you say all these things? SHAI M.RAGHUMA REDDY (Naf- ( Interruptions) gonda) Can you take the name of a person?

MR. CHAIRMAN : You address the ( Interruptions) chair. DR. S.JAGATHRAKSHAKAN: He is PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Don't not here. He is mentioning the name. He is look at him? Look at her. not a Member.

SHRI P.KOLANDAIVELU: On the 8th ( Interruptions) January when I met our hon. Prime Minster here, he told me, why did you not compro- MR. CHAIRMAN: It is enough you say mise. That was the first thing he told me. I 'Speaker'. said we are trying our level best to compro- mise on this matter. We suggested some SHRI K.R.NATARAJAN (Oindigul) : formula in order to maintain status quo, but The conduct of the Speaker cannot be dis- they were not agr•• able, What can we do? cussed. 499 St. Resl. fe. App. FEBRUARY 23, 1988 about 500 of Procl. Tamil Nadu

( Interruptions) Pandian monium.

SHRI P.KOLANDAIVELU: As far as we SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: So far, are concerned, he is no 'more the Speaker. never in the history of the Assembly, such an The Assembly has already been dissolved. untoward and violent activity has taken place inside the House. 20 MLAs have been ( Interruptions) injured. One of the lady MLAs her name is Yasoda, was beaten and she sustained MR. CHAIRMAN: Already it has been severe injuries on her hand and her bone discussed. Let him discuss. was broken. Such was the situation prevail- ing. Acutually, we are very grateful to the ( Interruptions) Government of India for introducing the President's rule. Actually the will of the SHRI K.R. NATARAJAN: Under Article people have eventually prevailed and the 159 he continues to be the Speaker. game of the conspirators and their allies has miserably failed. Now the people are at lib- t:trty to choose their popular Government, SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: Why do you their own Government. What actually had often stand and say so may things? happened with regard to tho MLAs? They were saying that 97 MLAs were there. How MR. CHAlRMAN: Mr. Natarajan, you these MLAs were behind Janaki faction? are interrupting too much. There was actually a horse trade. They have been purchased by giving Rs. 5 lakhs to Rs. SHRI P. KOLANt:>AIVELU: Madam, 15lakhs. actually the Speaker's adjournment on 28th - Sparked the commotion. The Assembly ( Interruptions) started by 1'0 A. M. What was the business actually for the House? The only business AN HON. MEMBER: Why do you allow was to get the confidence vote and he ought these type of things? not to have denied it. The Assembly ought to have been conducted in such a manner in ( Interruptions) order to get the confidence vote for Janaki. Actually, it was not done like that. Again it MR. CHAIRMAN: Please sit down. He was adjourned to 12 noon. It is just like has a right to say. let him say. morning show, noon show and matinee shows 10 A.M., 12 noon and 3 P.M, What is ( Interruptions) all these things? Can anyone bear it? A high \foltage political drama prevailed all along SHRI P.KOLANDAIVELU: Madam, it from 10 A.M. upto 4 P.M. in the Hous'e. has already been published in almost all the Pandemonium was prevailing and lathi papers that horse trade' has taken place in charge wa~ there. Tamil Nadu. How about the huge amount crores and crores of rupees they were PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: How spending? How they "Yere able to amount did they attend all the three shows? wealth in crores?

( Interruptions) ( Interruptions)

SHRI E. AVYAPU REDDY: This is MR. CHAIRMAN: VVhy ,~rl4 you tntnr- 501 St. Resl. r9. App. PHALGlJNA4, 1909 (SAKA) about -$02 of Procl. Tamil Nadu

rupting him like this? nowhere. We might have been murdered by now, or we might have been put into prison. (I nt9rruptions) That is why, the Government of India came to the resuce of the people of Tamil Nadu. At MR. CHAIRMAN: You are getting up last dharma has won. every time and speaking without my permis- sion. (Interruption::;) How many times shall I \Vhat was the situation prevailing when tell you? (Interruptions) the President's rule was proclaimed? It has been stated here that the life continued as DR. S. JAGATHRAKSHAKAN: You usual despite the State coming under please tell this thing to the han. Member who President's rule tor the third time since inde- is speaking. pendence. The usual business was going on. Had Janaki Government happened to be MR. CHAIRMAN: I cannot direct the a popular Government. what would have hon. Member to speak the way you like him happened on the day when President's rule to speak. Do not question the Chair. He is was proclaimed? There would have been lot speaking parliamentary words. He is not of bloodshed arid lot of properties would saying anything unparliamentary. (Interrup- have been destroyed. But no such incident tions) Mr. Natarajan, If you get up hereafter, took place. Actually, the people of Tamil I will not tolerate. Nadu heaved a sigh of relief on the procla- mation of President's rule. SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: Because of the adamant attitude of the Speaker, actu- I request the hon. Home Minister and ally he has brought down the prestige of the the Government of India to hold elections Tamil Nadu Assembly. I am sorry for the there as early as possible and the pJpular state of affairs which prevailed on the 28th. Government must come into being as earty On 13th wben parliamentarians like me and as possible. Even they nead not wait for the other Me'mbers of Parliament went to AI- new electoral rolls. According to the 1984 ADMK headquarters' office. w.e were beaten rolls which ar~ 3vailable. they can conduct up, arrested and put under custody. what the elections by March or April. The Govern- actually have we down? Actually I have got ment of India must come forward to see that the right to go inside the party's headquar- a popular government in Tamil Nadu comes ters because I am the executive member, into being. general council member and a basic mem- ber too. Moreover. I am a Member of Parlia- 15.00 hrs. ment. Have I no right -to go inside the office of the headquarters of the party? But I have Another thing that J would like to say Is been prevented from entering the office. with regard to the Sri Lankan Agreement. Even the former Chief Minister. Mr. We appreciate the Government for impfe- Nedunchezhian and other Members of Par- menting the Sri Lankan Accord. Our stand is liament were prevented from entering the that we are supporting the Central Govern- office and we had been beaten, lathi- ment i~.. .. (/nte"uptions). charged and put under custody. What have we dono? Is it correct a the part at Janak; PROF. MADHU DANOAVATE: What- Government to beat former Ministers and ever thoy do. MPs like this? Such was the situation pre- vailing there. Had the Janaki Government SHRI P. KOLANDAJVELU; .... imple- allowed to continuo, we wouJd have been man1inu th9 Sri Lankan Accord in ft$ lette, FI;BRUARY 23, 1988 lIbout504 TamilNadu

(SI'[P. Kolandaivelu} MGR was genuinely interested in the uplift of and spirit. I am very happy and very grateful poor and downtrodden. He worked tirelessly to the Government of India for their right for their welfare. We, therefore, supported action in the right manner and at the right him. The Congress supported him on all time. matters.

15.02 hr•• We also said .that we would continue to support the AIADMK even after MGR if only {SHRI SHAAAD DIGHE in the Chailj there are no two factions within that party. Such is the Congress tradition. Those who • SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMY (Coimba- are not aware of the glorious tradition of tore): Hon. Madam Chairman, I rise to sup- Congress which is 103 years old and which port this Resolution moved by our hon. had secured freedom for a country stretch· Home Minister seeking approval of the Proc- ing from Kashmir to Kanyakumari against lamation of the President issued in relation to Odds are speaking against the President's Tamil Nadu. I feel 'extremely glad in welcom- rule. Should not a party with such a glorious 1ng the President's rule In Tamil Nadu. traditions rule a State? Then Which party should rule? Why did the Opposition los9 in The whole country is aware of the high Tripura? Because people wanted it. They drama the 21 days interim Ministry of Mrs effected the change. The oppressive Govt in -Janaki was enacting. The people of Tamil Tripura was overthrown by power of the Nadu and the whole country know very well people in elections. In Meghalaya, adequate how the han. Members of the Legislative steps were.taken by the Governor to install a Assembly were confined to hotels and Govt which enjoyed the majority. The will of lodged in hostels and other places. Those the people will prevail there also. Members were lured by offers of money ranging somewhere from 10 lakhs to 25 Let me refer to certain malpractices lakhs. I request the hon. Minister to take a indulged in by the 21 days Ministry headed special note of this sordid fact. The whole by Mrs. Janaki. Nepotism ruled high when 3 country knows how shamelessly and mde- important persons were shown concession cently elected hon. Members of the Assem- by that Govt. while granting 'icences to bly were treat.ed by a faction in the House engineering colleges. Look atthis cruel state which deliriously wanted to cling to power. of affairs. The licences issued to them as Some of the Members here spoke against favour must be cancelled. Further, a thor- the imposition of the President's rule without ough inquiry intothe assets being held by the trying to learn what exactly happened in the erstwhile Ministers of the dismissed Govt. State. We know in detail what exactly hap- should be instituted. Action must also be pened. taken on the findings.

When the AIADMK was in power as Dr. (Interruptions) M.G.R. was Chief Minister we offered our unstinted support. What was the reason? MR. Madhu Dandavate, I know all about We did not have any ulterior motives. We it. You please keep quiet. lent our support to Dr MGR because he was a prison who identified himself with the na- On that fateful day, the Speaker ad- tional mainstream. Puratchi \Thalaivar Dr journed the House twice. He also disquali-

• The speech was originally delivered in Tamil. 505 St. Rtlsi. re. App. PHALGUNA 4, 1 g09 (SAKA ) abput 506 of Procl. TamilNadu fied the ex-Ministers who aligned with the of this Parliament? Can it happen? Even in' other factions of AIADMK. Look at the inde- the most trying circumstances like when Mrs cency. Not only this. He Was the person who Gandhi was expelled from this House, police ordered an editor of a Weekly'Magazine to were not called inside the House to restore be put behind bars. That was a reputed order. People will not fgrget the incident that magazine. Mr Pandian, the Speaker went to happened in Tamil Nadu Assembly. Some the shameful extent of ordering the editor's people ask about the Indo-Sri Lanka Accord. imprisonment. That was the way. he func- Certain political parties are always after one tioned. agitation ortha other. For them the Accord is an alibi for agitation. '~ Pandyas were one of the famous three dynasties which ruled Tamil Nadu in ancient We do not fear elections. Elections will times. There is a reference in a great Epic of be held and people will give their verdict. the Tamils that the ruler of the Pandian After all people are going to vote and nobody Kingdom sought his heavenly abode after it can come to power without people's mana- was proved to him by Kovalan's chaste wife nate. Kannagi that her husband, who was charged with st~aling the queen's anklet and put to An hon. friend of Shri Somu revealed in death, was proved innocent. Such was .the a public n,eeting in Dharampuri that a Minis- glorious tradition of Tamils which inhabited ter in the dismissed Ministry had swallowed the Tamil land even before the origin of stone Rs one crore. Mr Somu was present in the or grass. But the actions of the present day public me9ting. He knows it well. That's why Pandian, the Speaker have made all Tamili- he is keeping quiet. ans to hang their heads in shame. SHRI N. V.N. SOMU: Mr Chairman. jf he Police cannot be directed to march in- wallts to make an allegation against any- side the precincts of the legislature in any body I lot him do it. But let him not drag l1ie or case. The democratic ideals and norms my Party. It is the dispute between the fac- cannot be trampled under the boots of po- tions of AIADMK. If the Congress wants to lice. (Interruptions) allege anything or jf he wants to do it, Jet him do no his own accord. Let him not involve Hooligans and hired goonads were let me. inside the House to commit vandalism. Can this be allowed? The opposition parties ( Interruptions) should think over it. Mr Engineering College, you keep quiet. (Interruptions) The Presi- SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMY: I am not dent was pleased to dismiss the Govt be- talking about you. cause it was on the wrong track. It indulged in malpractices and resorted to corrupt MR CHAIRMAN: He says don't drag his m~ans to cling to power. name. You can m-a.ke your spee-:h.

We are here as a major ruling party. SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMY: People of NAarfy 412 Membors are here belonging to Tamil ~adl.l wanted a peaceful Govt. We Congress. Suppose we JOIn together and therefore. appealed to the AIADMK to unite. beat others what would happen? You must We promised our support to the. undtvid?d think over. AIADMK. Hon. Prime Minister Shri has assured his SJpport to the undi·

Can police be paraded in the precin l ts vided AIADMK. 507 St. Resl. 1'9. App. FEBRUARY 23, 1988 about 508 of Procl. . Tamil Nadu

[Sh~ O.K. Kuppuswamy] world did not open their month. Now. when it We had no intention of toppling State fits, they make a big shout here. Govts. We have not toppled any State Govt. Let anybody here tell me about any State THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Govt we toppled. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INOlIS- There are now 9 non-Congress(l) TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): We had Govts. Why should we be interested in top- not supported it. pling Janaki Ministry only? Justice should not be one sided. Jus1ice should belong to all SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: The Congress parties. I, thereforo, welcome this resolution Party in Tamil Nadu had sponsored the approving President's rule in Tamil Nadu. resolution for expulsion of DMK MLAs. I can say it here. SHRt N.V.N. SOMU {MADRAS NORTH): Mr. Chairman, the President's rule ( Interruptions) in this country has already celebrated plat:num jubiloe and is awaiting the century. SHRI N. SUNDARARAJ: We have not It is in that fashion how it is introduced in expelled Mr. Gopalaswamy. He is one of the Tamil Nadu. The President's rule is always a Members. Damocles sword hanging on the head of the State Government. Sir. our Party gave an MR. CHAIRMAN: Let him go on. amendment to delete article 356 from the Constitu~ion itself which gives absolute right SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: We had got a to the Party at the Centre to topple the State Legislature Party Office at Rajajl Hall in Gov€rnmt:lnt which do not dance according Madras. What did the very same Speaker to the tunt:!s of the Central Government. do? He said, "Your number had decreased; so you havo to vacate your Legislature Party As fa,' as Tamil Nadu is concerned. it is office". One fine morning, without any due under the President's rule and the people notice, they came with the police, and I can aro expecting that very soon, even as imme- say, he threw us out with the help of the diately as oossibl3, the e!ections and I re- police. I cannot ~ake delight in the happen- quesl the hone Mini~[er here to glve such an ings at the AIADMK. Now their Party Office aSGuran(;e-not only assurance but o.lso to in Madras has been sealed. Their Parlia- :i1c:ke arrangements for quick elections in mentary Party amcs in the upsta:rs has Tamil N:ldu. Otherwise, they are doing, as b~en sealed, There is a saying in Tamil: my good friend, Mr. Thomas t')ld. under the "Murpagal seyyin Pirpagal Vi/~iyum". But I disguise of the President's rul'j, the Con- don't agree with this thing here. (Interrup- gress Party i!; openin~ its branches all o"er tions) The translation is: It If you do any wrong India, whic.h ~hey cannot do, ihrough the in the forenoon, it reflects in the afternoon". people's ma"datA. My friend, Mr. Th~rnpan Thomas clearly stated here that the Speaker ( Intfl,(uptions) of Tamil Nadu Assembly had expelled 37 MLAs without any due notice or due process PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Hasthe or legislative procedure. We have cried like office been sealed after taking the Members anything when our 10 ML.As who had parti..;i- out? pated In the anti-Hindi agitation "ave been expelled un(".onstitutional~y. But tha whole SHRI N. V.N. SOMU: But I can say that world, the Congress world. the AIADMK for all the conf usion, only the Congl ass Party " 509 St. Resl. r9. App. PHALGUNA 4. 1909 (SAKA ) about 510 of Procl. Tamil Nadu

is the main reason. I can say that. In this connection, I want to say 0"8 thing. You may kindly 9XCUSEt me for saying They made to believe the then AIADMK that. It is said that. .. ** Government and my friend Shri Kalan· daivelu has said that the han. Prime Minister ( Interruptions) Rajiv Gandhi has suggested that they would support only the united AIADMK PARTY. MR. CHAIRMAN: No. These remarks That implies that if not, they will have to face are expunged. No ref~rence to President the consequences. So, they have not united. can be made. They have not clearly came to the terms of Shri Rajiv Gandhi. So. when both the fac- ( Interruptions) tions did not heed his advice, immediately Shri Rajiv Gandhi took shelter under the SHRI N.V N. SOMU: I am not casting Governor and imposed President's nJle. Shri a"y asper&ion on the honour~ble President. Kolandaivelu has accepted this in his speech. All the Congress MPs here said ( IntGrruptions) s~mething. Why did Shri Shivaji Ganesan go out of tile party? Why did Shri MP Subrama- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: YOIJ niam go out of your party? can refer to the President of tho CO:1gress!

(Interruptions) SHRI N. V.N. SOMU: If thE:l hon. Chair- man permits me, I can read the Hlr.du Edito- So, even your cwn Congress Members rial here, which has been writ1f~n .... did not approve :>f this action. ( Interruptions) SHRI N. SUNDARARAJ: Can I interrupt? .. Shri A''junan. former MP has SHRI R. JEEVARATl-liNAM (Ar- rE:::signed fro'll the DMK Party and he has akkona:Tl): Mr. Chairman. Sir. I strongly Jojn~d the Jayalaliiha Group. object to it.

SHAI N.V.N. SOMLJ: Please don't inter· ( J(lterruption~) rupT You speak when your turn comes. My leader Or. Kalc:ignar Karunanidhi has rightly SHF:I N. V.N. SOMU: Sir, one Cc·ngres5 put it that this GovernmAnt hac:; crowned Shri Mambor has roferred herl::t ahout the Sar- M.G.. Rc.machandrC:ln, posthumously. with karia COr.1mission. But our OMK ?.:"lrty is the tho highesT ho"ovr of Sharat Ratna. first, trruughout India, to cons~itl):p' !I,e Raja- mann~r Comm;ttee, consisting of ~he iormer SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGAlAM: Ch;ef JustIce Srri P. V. Raiamann.lr. !Jr. A.A. Oo,,'t you like it? MUGaliar, the reputed forn-,er Vice-Chance'- lor and Shri P. Ch(;lndra Reddy, a rt:tputed SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: I til

ISh~ N.V.N. Somu1 MR. CHAIRMAN: Order, order. are merely the agents of the Ruling Party at the Centre. Governors are merely the SHRI N. V.N. SOMU: This is the fashion age.nta of the ruling party at the centre. of the day. My friend Shri Kumaramangalam Governor of Tamil Nadu also as such is an has immediately sprang up. There were agent of the Congress Party at the Centre. days when his reputed father Shri Mohan Kumaramangalam was waiting at Dr. ( Interruptions) Karunanidhi's residence at Gopalapuram for election. Perhaps Mr. Kumaramangalam SHAI MULlAPPAllY RAMACHAN- does not know it. He was a small child then. DRAN (Cannanore): You are unusally confi- dent. SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: This is a personal reference which cannot be SHRI N.V.M. SOMU: I am not being establishf::td. Even his own leader Karun- provoked (Infarruptions) You can see that I anidhi himself says that my father Shri can narrate one or two incidents. In 1957, Mohan Kumaramangalam was responsible Congress did not get majority in Tamil Nadu. in one way for M.G. Ramachandran's Gov~ ernment to come to power. Now his own ( Interruptions) saying he contradicts it.

SHAt R. JEEVARATHINAM: It was in . ( Interruptions) 1952. SHRI N. V.N. SOMU: That is the game . SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: I am sorry, it was of your Congress . in 1952. There were two parties headed by Manickvelu Naikar Party and the other MR. CHAIRMAN: Come to the point. headed by Ramaswamy Padayacha. \"'hat the T.N.C.C.leader Kamaraj aid was that he SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Coming to Sri annexed both the parties, to establish Con- Lanka, one of the Hon. Members spoke that gress rule. the whole of Tamil Nadu was jubiliant. Even on Saturday the 20th. nearly 50 lakh people SHRI R. JEEVARATHINAM: They have participated in hunger strike through- merged. OIJt the Tam it Nadu. (Intarruptions) I want the House to kindly say that L TIE is a consider- able force One lakh IPKF persons are there . SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: No merging. It is a and daily five crores of rupees is being spent. merger. I know how they merged. Now the (Interrupfk."rJs) I can say it tho'Jsand timos. C',ongres$ has been ver,! hungr/ since 1957 When he is ready fer talk3 why our Prime because it has bean routed from the power Minister is stiU adamant. Why don't he invite from 1957.1 can say that. Even if you keep on Shn Prabilakaran for talks and solve the Sri prolonging t~~ President'~ ·Rule by one or Lanka problem. two years. this is on!y a day dream (.'1 Con- gress. It will never come to pow'1r in Tamil Last but nat least, I want to mention a Nadu. The Congress has to depend either point that at le3st from now the Congres~ on DMKoron AIDMK.lt has no 10Cl'S standi Covernr.1snt should touch the conscience of its own. and act with a clean heart. H Mr. Rajiv Gandhi is Mr. Clean. let the Governo"'s rule be a ( Intflrruptions) clean rul~ in Tamil Nadu state. If they are 513 St. Resl. reo App. PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) about 514 of Procl. Tamil Nadu

bold enough to fix an early election date and Ramaswamy Pad~iatchi of South Areat face the people's mandate. District and certain independents offered their support to Rajaji in a communication [ Trans/ation] Signed by them addressed to the Governor on the condition that Rajaji should be made lISHRI R. JEEVARATHINAM (Ar- Chief Minister. Shri Somu must know that akkonam): Han. Chairman, Sir, I request the that was how Rajaji's Govt. in 1952 thrived Han. Minister to accept my amendment to on the voluntary, positive and constructive the resolution he has moved for the approval support of other members in the Legislature of the Proclamation 'of the President issued and not by coercive and corrupt means. in relation to Tamil Nadu. My amendment is to the effect that·this House recommends to I, therefore, welcome the imposition of the President to remove Shri P.H. Pandian President's rule in Tamil Nadu. Smt. Janak; from the office of the Speaker. I request the was not commanding majority at any point of House to adopt the Resolution with my time. The whereabouts of the 96 members amendment. who supported her were not known. I learnt that they werQ confined to the cellars of a Let me now reveal certain of the truths Five-Star Hotel. They were not allowed out- . I know about the political situation in the side even to meet their dear ones. The other State that prevailed 2 months ago. Hon. Shri 34 members of AIADMK were going from Somu has stated that the respected father of one city to another in a procession. That was Shri P.R. Kumaramangal?m was kept wait- what exactly happened. The members of ing at the residence of Hon. Dr. Kalaignar DMKto which ourfriend Shri Somu belongs Karunanidhi. Yes, that was true. I have the also voted against the Janaki Ministry in the same regard and respect to Dr. Kalaignar as House. He did not mention it in his speech. our friend Shri Somu has. But I must also tell Communists also voted against her Govt. the truth. The same Dr. Kalaignar came to Shri Somu's aim is to capture power after Delhi afterthe 1980 Lok Sabha elections and dislodging those in power when they begin to waited at Mrs. Gandhi's residence. He totter. pleaded with her to dismiss somehow Dr. MGR's Ministry. This Shri Somu should not tSHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Let him tell about forget. That was nr political crime. But a Congress. They betrayed Janakiammal. political game. All politicians behave in the same way. ·SHRI R. JEEVARATHINAM: I am aware of the whole situation in Tamil Nadu. In 1952, there was a United Legislature At no point of time we pledged our support to for Andhra, Tamil Nadu and Kerala. Con- Janakiammal. High command or any other gress did not have an absolute majority in leader in Congress did not expressly state the Legislature. Rajaji was the Congress that Congress would vote for Janaki Minis- Legislature Party Leader. After becoming try. But they themselves have drawn infer- ihe Chief Minister, Rajaji wished to ascertain ences. They have wrongly assumed that whether he commanded the majority in the Congress would support them since they Legislature. But as I said earlier Congrpss commanded 96 of their legislators. They did not have an absolute majority. He, there- lacked political maturity. They should have fore, solicited the support of other members. pondered over the fact that how a political Shri Ma"ickavelu of North Areat District, Shri party could support them without any ex-

• The speech was orginalty delivered in Tamil t Spoke in Tamil 515 St. Resl. re. App. FEBRUARY 23, 1988 about 516 ofProcl. Tamil Nadu

(Sh. R. Jeevarathinam] [English] press agreement in writing or otherwise in that regard. They really lacked political . MR. CHAIRMAN: He is not yielding. Sit maturity. We had never led Janakiammal to down. . believe that we would support her. But there are many amongst us here whose party led ·SHRI R. "'tEVARATHINAM: When her to believe that they would support her occasion comes, v.'e will go to the masses and betrayed her at the last moment. They and appeal to them to vote for us. The themselves know it. masses will defeat you in the polls.

What the Han. Dr. Kalaignar is doing When we did not have the right rapport now? He is dividing the party into two. And by with Dr. MGR in 1980, Dr. Kalaignar ap- doing so, he is devising his own comeback to proached us for electoral alliance. Did he power. We are also politicians. We are not approach us through backdoor orfrontdoor? sanyasis. We will also try our best to come to power. We will make efforts to move the [English] masses to get their mandate. SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: Mr. Karun- SHRI N. V.N. SOMU: But do not enlist anidhi will always adopt double standards. the support of the Governor in your efforts to come to power. ( Interruptions)

(Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: Why don't you allow him to speak. Congress is trying to come to power through backdoor. Face the people singly [ Translation] and coma to power. Not through backdoor. ·SHRI R. JEEVARATHINAM: It is no ·SHRI R. JEEVARATHINAM: Shri use talking all these things here. My per- Somu himself knows whetherwetrytocome sonal opinion is that Tamil people have suf- to power through backdoor or front door. fered untold ordeals over the past 20 years. ,

The Congress and the DMK together Please give me some more time, Sir. contested the 1980 Lok Sabha elections against the stalwart Dr. MGR. Dr. MGR was Hon. Prime Minister has come here as badly defeated. He got only two seats. That Maha Vishnu. He has provided adequate time, You tell me, through which door Dr. relief to the suffering Tamil people of the Kalaignar approached Madam Gandhi and state by recommending President's rule in pleaded with her to dismiss Dr. MGR Minis- the State. He has come in the incarnation of try? Through backdoor or frontdoor? Lord Krishna who took birth to wipe out adharma from the face of earth. SHRI N. V.N. Somu: We came through frontdooronly. ShriJeevarathinam Mudaliar SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Yes, Yes, he is Maha should speak truth. We confested 16 seats Vishnu, Bofors is his chunk ... (/nterruptions) and won 16 seats. SHAI R. JEEVARATHINAM: The cor- ( Interruptions) ruption which was rampant will come to light

• The speech was org;nalty delivered in Tamil 517 St. Resl. reo App. PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) about 518 of Procl. "Tamil Nsdu during the President's rule. The Tamil Then what happened. the Speakerth.n people wholeheartedly welcome the imposi- called out the names of all the 34 legislators tion of the President's rule. I recently toured in the other camp. He without verifying the my Parliamentary Constituency and people facts of the case indiscriminately disqualified thronged me with slogans like 'Rajiv Gandhi all of them. He murmured to himsetf that he Ki Jai' Congress Ki Jai'. They were all in was satisfied that they incurred disqualifica.. praise of the Central Govt's action. I saw this tion and that they deserved it and went on a with my own eyes. (Interruptions) spree of disqualifications.

You will also soon shout the same slo- Not only that. He said that he was a gans. dravidian. A true dravidian. He also said that either 'Two Leaves [Symbol of undivided I was there in the Assembly gallery on AIADMK] or 'the 'Sun' [Symbol of DMK] that day_ Instead of taking up the motion of should rule Tamil Nadu. He also fantastically confidence, the Speaker adjourned the remarked that he would take up the mattar House till 12 PM. Even at 12 PM, they could with UNO. That was his global ignorance not trade -in members to their advantage. and hot-headed attitude. He called in police Shri Somu knows it fully well. But Dr. Kalaig- and his own party elements in police attire nar was very firm in the matter. He was not and caused a lathi charge on the members. lured by the overtures of Janak; Govt. He Mrs. Yasodha suffered a serious injury on was that much firm in bringing down the her forearm. Many others suffered head and Janaki Min istry. The Speaker adjourned the body induries. Many came out with shirts House again till 3 PM. What happened? I drenched in blood. I was a witness te it. I, was also a member of the Legislative As- therefore, request the Hen. Minister to ac- sembly. It is the duty of the Speaker to cept my amendment for the .removal of the provide physical protection to members. On Speaker. the other hand, the Speaker directed the police to cause a lathi charge on the mem- Now the people are talking about elec- bers inside the House., tions. It is a pet slogan of our friend Dr. Kalaignar. We also wish elections should be A few days before that fateful day, the conducted. We are also ready to face elec- same Speaker managed to get a complaint tions. Even Ayyappu Reddy was imputing written about a lady member of the House that Congress wants to capture power in whose whereabouts wore not known. The Tamil Nadu and that is why Shri Moopanar Speaker ostensibly on the basis of that has been sent t"ere. I wish to tell him and complaint directed the police to trace her and other members that even if your party splits bring her before him. That wasthe style of his and you are rendered unable to selve the functioning. peeple we will step in and endeavour to establish our party rule in your State. In the Members are not cattle or any other same way why should'Shri Thomas express livestock. All members are elected by the fear or apprehensions about the departure people and enjoy equal rights. The Speaker of Shri Moopanarto the State? He had gone treated the members as though they are there to serve the masses. He had gone cattle, horse, sheep and ~oat, and disquali- there to extricate the masses buried under fied s4X former Ministers without any basis. the corrupt administration that reigned Tamil Nadu for 20 years. To tell you frankly, Shri Sir, let me continue for some more time. Moopanar has made a great sacrifice. He This is an interesting subject. has left his General Secretary post in the 519 St. Resl. fe. App. FEBRUARY 23, 1988 about 520 of Procl. Tamil Nadu

ISh. R. Jeevarathinam] that took place in Tamil Nadu Legislature on Congress Command in the Centre. That 28th January, which brought shame to the shows his yearning for selfless service to the democratic institutions of our country. I also people particularly to the people of Tamil use this opportunity to condemn the actions Nadu. of the so-called Speaker of the Tamil Nadu Assembly. A close scrutiny of the political I would like to draw the attention of the developments in Tamil Nadu will reveal that Minister of Home Affairs to the bogus mem- all these things happen because of the bership in the electoral rolls of the State. opportunistic role played by the Congress (I) They say three and a half crores are there in in Tamil Nadu. 1was hearing a speech from the electoral rolls. Underaged and other an han. Member from the other side, saying bogus members figure in the electoral rolls. that Congress (I) is so eager to see an Electoral rolls must be revised. Let it take undivided AIADMK. " is the intention of the time. Nothing will be affected. Congress (I) to divide AIADMK. I have no craze for AIADMK. I would like to advise Red Tapism is rampant in Tamil Nadu. those Members, who are aligning with the Files are gathering dust for the past 6 Congress (I), and supporting the policies of months to one year. These files have to be the Congress (I) in Tamil Nadu, that they are cleared and decisions taken immediately. trying to fish out of the troubled political That should be the first task. waters of Tamil Nadu. Of all the States in our country, it is Tamil Nadu that needs a stable Corruption was also rampant in Tamil and popularly elected Government, be- Nadu. 20 years of misrule has created many cause of the developments in Sri Lanka, and corporations and Boards which serve as our own involvement in Sri Lanka. Our ene- easy havens for politicians to mint money in mies would like to see turbulence in :amil crores. In Delhi here, lakhs may mean Nadu. That is what is happening there be- something. In Tamil Nadu it means nothing. cause of the dubious rcle played by the Corruption always runs in crores of rupees. Congress (I). Need of the hour is early elec- People have amassed wealth by illegal tions. The Congress (I) Party has a record of means. The skeletons in the cupboard must continuing with the President's rule in the be brought out to the lime light. Action must States and waiting for the opportune time for be taken against these people. A Special the elections which will favour them. So, I Officer of the rank of Chief Secretary must be think, it 'is for that purpose that the Prime appointed to institute inquiries into the cor- Mini~ter's men are now in Tamil Nadu. They rupt deals in the State over the past 20 years. are being sent there. Then only you can conduct fair elections. Do not give your ear to somebody in some If they continue with this practice in corner clamouring for early elections. We Tamil Nadu, it will create havoc in that State must be prudent in choosing the right time in and it will not be in our national interest. the interest of fair elections. With these words, I support the Resolution and con- With these words, I request the Central clude. Government to take steps to conduc~ early polls in Tamil Nadu. [Eng/ish] SHRI N. SUNDARAAAJ (Pudukkottai): SHRI SURESH KURUP (Kottayam): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I welcome the proclama- Sir, I think all sections of this House will jOin tion issued by the President of India and the together in condemning the ugly incidence dissolution of the Tamil Nadu Assembly. 521 St. Res/. reo App. PHAlGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) about 522 of Proc/. Tamil Nadu

Only a few power mongers disagree with this five MLAs have resigned from the Assembly, proclamation. But as far as people of Tamil so he is adjourning the House. Then he just Nadu are concerned, they have whole- went out. Is it the form of the Constitution? At heartedly welcomed it; it was not on any 12.00 o'clock he again came in and said that specific issue, but they did not want a oorrupt he has dism isstid 6 MLAs under the Anti- Government of Shrimati Janaki Ramachan- . Defection Law and then again walked out. At dran to continue in Tamil Nadu. this time he again adjourned the House upto 3.000' clock. At 3.00 0' clock he caJled the SHRI K.R. NATARAJAN (Oindigul): police in and asked tht.m to attack the Con· That Government was in power only for 23 gress-l MLA's and MLAs belonging to the days. Will you allow such wild allegations to Jayalalitha faction. Most of the affected be made in the House? members were from the Congress party. I would like to know from the Home Minister. (Interruptions) on what basis the police could enter the premises and attack the members? Can the MR. CHAIRMAN: No interruptions Speaker ask the police force to come in the please. Let him continue. Assembly and attack the Congress-I MLAs? They lathi-charged them. Like the Watch SHRI N. SUNDARARAJ: To prove this, I and Ward officers they were asked to stand would like to state that there were advertise- in the well of the House. Is there any psycho- , ments daily in the English newspapers in logical thinking? How can the Congressmen Tamil Nadu indicating the rate of an MLA. If with arms be beaten up and get injured? today, it was Rs. 3 lakhs, the next day, it would be Rs. 4 lakhs and on 28 th January it AN HON. MEMBER: 32 Members from was As. 25 lakhs per MLA, who was pre- our side were also injured. pared to come over to Janaki Ramachandran's faction. Do you want such SHRI N. SUNDARARAJ: I would like a Government to continue in power? .. the Government of India to institute an (Interruptions) I take the responsibility for enquiry on the action taken by the Speaker this ... .(Interruptions) and the police officials who encroached the Constitutional authority and entered the well MR. CHAIRMAN: No interruptions of the Assembly and beat the Congress please. P'ease take your seats. Let him MlAs. And I think it should be headed by the speak. Supreme Court judge. It should be a lesson for the future speakers. I should not happen SHRI N. SUNOl RARAJ: On January in future. They should not say that the pow~ 28, the whole blame y as put on the Speaker. ars are sky high and there is no limit to it. Shall I name him? He was Shri Pandiyan. He said that his powers were not limited. While As far as the political aspect of Con- the han. Speaker of this august House says gress-I is concerned, some people say that that he has no powers, the powers belong to we are inclined or bound to support the the whole House, there an individual says Janaki faction. But f do not sea any reason that his pow·ers are unlimited. He can re~ for it. We supported the MGR's Government lease a person convicted by the High Court because we had an alliance with him in and he can put a man behind the bars, jf he 1984. We supported him. but that does not likes. In the same way he just announces in mean that we are slaves to AIADMK or we the House at 1 O.OOa.m. on 28th January that are bound by some treaty or accord to sup- he has received a telephonic message that port them. That is not the thing. We have said 523 St. Resl. f8. App. FEBRUARY 23,1988 about 524 of Procl. Tamil Nadu

[Sh. N. Sundararaj] persons who have been politically ap.. that we will support the united AIADMK. We pointed, and are still continuing. They are have stated that very clearly but the Janaki continuing as Chairmen of some public faction was not able to reconcile themselves undertaking, temples. milk societies, etc. in the form of a single group. Furthermore, on the night of 27, they tried to buy 5 MLAs I would request the Government to dis- from the Congress-I party. Our great actor miss all of them immediately. and bring in who has now left the party and for whom good people to run a clean administration till some people said that he was the master fresh elections are conducted. One of our mind behind it, took something from them han. Members had mentioned about bogus and was able to buy 5 MLAs from the Con- voting in Tamil Nadu. That is quite true. So I gress-I Party to support the Janaki faction. would request the Government to issue So, in this position can we support them. Photo Identity Cards to all the voters so that Thev tried to break our party by giving the bogus voting can be stopped. money. So. we decided to vote against them. It is our party and we are free to take our own SOME HON. MEMBERS: It should be decisions. We are not bound by any outside done throughout India. force. There is a feeling among the Opposi- 1ion parties that the Congress-I wanted to SHRI N. SUNDARARAJ: Okay. One of come in power and that is why it is playing our hon. Members mentioned that we are such kind of roles. I would like to categori- going to reach the hundred mark as far as the cally say that they are all mistakes. They say proclamation of President's rule is con- it is the Congress (I) which made the mis- cerned. I would say that his party was the takes. They wanted to come to power major partner who sought the Central through back door. They are not prepared to Government's intervention in dissolving 80 come to power through the front door. If Member MGR's Government in Tamil Nadu. something good has happened, the Opposi- He came down to Delhi and pleaded with the tion will say we have won the race. Democ- Central Government leaders for the dissolu- racy has been restored. But as far as the tion of the Government there. After the dis- position of that particular day is concerned, so~ution - at the instance of Mr. Karunanidhi the Governor only stated that if the 97 MLAs - he came down to Madras. He was ac- of the Janaki group could not form a Govern- corded a heroic reception. He master- , ment, J will call the Congress (I) which is the minded the dissolution of the State Assem- next biggest party in the Assembly The bly. Now he is shedding crocodile tears like Congress (I) was having 64 Members In the his leader Karunanidhi. Assembly. But w~ on our part on the 28th itself said that after 12 '0' clock, if they are not SHRI N. V.N. SOMU: I strongly object. able to prove the majority, we will have fresh What I said was the Congress made to eJections. Our AICC(I) General Secretary believe Mrs. Janaki Ramachandran that Shri K.N. Singh had categorically stated that they will support her and stabbed at her dissolve the Assembly and we will go in for back. elections. We are not prepared to form a Government. So where is the question of SHRI N. SUNDARARAJ: Never. It is coming through the back door or through not your business. It is our party. Congress manipulation. This is not wise at all. (I) is our own party. We take our own deci- sions. We take decisions on the merits of the At the present moment, Tamil Nadu is situation. They are not our bosses to tell us having the President's rule. But thertl are whom to support and to which party. 525 St. Res/. r9. App. PHAlGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) about 526 of PIOCI. Tamil Nadu

What about DMK. Out of the 10 or 12 ( Interruptions) Members in the Assembly only 8 turned up and rest of them were missing. I do not know MR. CHAIRMAN: You cannot inter- the reasons. It is best Known to them. Four of vene like this. Whatever you say will not be them had absconded, for reasons best recorded. known to them. As far as DMK is concerned, ** they are trying to fish in troubled waters. ( Interruptions)

16.00 hrs. SHRI N. SUNDARARAJ: Even now I understand that DMK is trying to have, if [SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHAMAN in possible, an alliance with the Congress. I will the Chair] certainly say that we are not prepared for it.

One more thing: they have said that the SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Our leader has Congress will like to ride on the back of DMK categorically said that there will be no alli- or AIADMK. I would like categorically to state ance with Congress party. that the Congress alone, without any part- nership, except for a minor partnership with SHRI N. SUNDARARAJ: My last sub- CPI fought the elections in 1977 and won 27 mission is that the Speaker of the Tamil sea~s; and out of the 27, I was also there Nadu Assembly should be dismissed imme- ~mong the elected persons. diately. Next, the Government should insti- tute an Inquiry Commission under the chair- DR.S.JAGATHRAKSHAKAN: 270~ manship of a sitting Supreme Court Judge, of 242. to inquire into the incidents of the Black Thursday of January 28. Thirdly, all the po- SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: DMK stood alone litical appoints made in Tamil Nadu should and got 48 seats. be cancelled, i.e. all those who are still in position should be forthwith dismissed. SHRI N. SUNDARARAJ: We are pre- Next, elections should be conducted in the pared for it. Next, in 1980 they came to Delhi. best and easier manner, by providing photo They stood in waiting at Mrs. Gandhi's resi- identity cards to the voters. dence, to get some seats, to have some alliance with Congress for Tamil Nadu's MR. CHAIRMAN: Dr. Vallal Peru man ;s parliamentary elections, and thereafter elec- not here. Now Dr. Rajeswaran. tions for the Assembly in Tamil Nadu. So, it is not a question of our going towards them. DR. V. RAJESHWARAN (Ramanatha- They ,Come to us. Even now I understand puram): Hon. Chairman, Sir, Shri Rajiv that Mr. Karunanidhi and the DMK are send- Gandhi, our Prime Minister had a friendly ing feelers ... relationship with the late Shri M.G. Rama- chandran. MGR's popularity and his ideol+ ogy attracted our Prime Minister Shri Rajiv SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: No, Sir. Mrs. Gandhi. Our Prime Minister had respect and Gandhi had apologized for what she had affection towards MGR. To show his gratj· done to the DMK Government during the tude, our hon. Prime Minister paid a visit to emergency. Only then the alliance was Madras and paid his homage to the late concluded . Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu, and an-

• + Not recorded 527 St. Resl. reo App. FEBAUAAY 23, 1988 about 528 of Procl. Tamil Nadu

[Dr. V. Rajeshwaran] the State. As per information they kept their nounced the most prestigious award of the supporting MLAs in posh hotels with big nation, viz. Bharat Ratna to him. The whole suitcases full of money and with false prom- nation paid its respect to the departed leader ises. During the short regime in the govern- of Tamil Nadu. This is all there because of ment money flowed like water throughout MGR's close association with the Central Tamilnadu especially at Madras. How have Government, accepting all its good ideolo- they got so much of money? It is only through gies and principles. He was the only Chief illegal practice and corruptive ways. I have Minister - among the entire Opposition my own doubts if this Ministry would have leaders-whotook an active part in bringing been allowed to continue, I would rather like the State of Tamil Nadu into the national to impress you, that they would have sold the mainstream. whole State. Even before testing the act of breach of five ex-Ministers of Tamilnadu, the Sri Lankan accord between the two Speaker dismissed them from the Assembly countries was wholeheartedly welcomed by under anti-defection law. The Speaker late MGR and he supported the main poli- allowed goondas inside the Assembly Hall cies of the Government headed by our dy- and many of the MLAs were beaten seri- namic Prime Minister. ously by them.

The recent past incidents in Tamilnadu Instead of adding feather to MGR's that took place made permanent scare in the image and his fame, the Janaki faction killed history of Tamilnadu, killing the democracy the popularity of MGR. In these circum- not only in Tamilnadu but throughout the stances, I would like to ask one question, country. I hope it isonly in Tamilnadu andthe who is the real heir of MGR in Tamilnadu? Is only one Speaker who claims himself that his it Mrs. Janaki Ramachandran faction of power is limited to sky in the history of the AIADMK who destroyed the popular image Assembly in the whole country who gave of Sri MGR, or the Congress Party and Rajiv importance to the telephonic calls as the Gandhi, who respected the acts of good of authenticated information and adjourned MGR and conferred the Bharat Ratna the House. The Speaker supposed to be as Award, the highest in our country to MGR. non-political, neutral and God father of the democracy in the House behaved as a third With these few words, I welcome the class citizen not even as second class citi- resolution of proclamation of President's zen that is Sri P.H. Pandian the Tamilnadu Rule in Tamilnadu and I thank Shri Rajiv Speaker (acting in a goondaism manner). I Gandhi, who took appropriate action, when want as most of my friends want, his dis- the country is in need of such a decision. The missal. I hope the government will take an people of Tamilnadu want non-corruptive, appropriate action against the Speaker. popular and stable government to be in the national main stream. I hope the President's The minc..rity government headed by Rule and future government will fulfil the Mrs. Janaki Ramachandran tried their lavel desire of the people of Tamilnadu. best in all possible. illegal ways using the Speaker as a via media to establish their On this occasion, I like to thank Shri majority in the Assembly. Even in their 23 Kolandaivelu for his compliments towards days government they have done Hima- the Central Government. I hope he will retain layan blunders. Smt. Janak; the same strategy inside Tamilnadu also? Ramachandran's Government issued per- mission to start five engineering colleges in I must also thank the government, be- 529 St. Resl. r9. App. PHAlGUNA 4. 1909 (SAKA ) about 530 ofProcl. Tamil Nadu

cause I had an opportunity to know most of take it up to the Speaker and the Speaker will the facts which were brought to light from take appropriate decision. Before that I darkness through the debate. cannot permit them. As perthe records of the House, there is only one AIADMK party and MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Buta Singh. that party has taken more than the time allotted to that party. That is why. I cannot SHRI P. SELVENDRAN (Periyakulam): permit it. Sir, I have given my name. Kindly permit me. I am the affected party. (Interruptions)

(Interruptions) SHRI E. AYYAPU REOC>Y' We appeal to Butaji. They must have their say. MR. CHAIRMAN: Till the Speaker takes a decision, on this issue, I cannot (Interruptions) permit you. MR. CHAIRMAN: If there is a new SHRI 8ASUDEB ACHARIA (8ankura): party, there is a procedure. We will have to You can allow him five minutes. Permit him follow that procedure and definitely your to speak. (Interruptions) request will be heard by the Speaker and appropriate decision will be taken by the MR. CHAIRMAN: The Speaker will Speaker. There is no use in making noise take a decision on this issue. Till then I before the House. You must take proper cannot allow him. Nothing will go on record steps as per the rules. without the permission of the Chair. ( Interruptions) ( Interruptions) MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Buta Singh. MR. CHAIRMAN: Let the Minister speak. I told you to take it up with the ( Interruptions) Speaker and the Speaker will give a direc- tion. Only after that, I can permit you. What- MR. CHAIRMAN: You are unnecessar- ever you say without the permission of the ily wasting your energy. It will not be re- Chair will not be recorded as it is not a public corded and it will not be published. (Interrup- event. tions) Do not make asp"rsions here. Please resume your seat. (Interruptions) I have al- ( Interruptions) ready given my ruling.

SHRt E. AVYAPU REDDY: Everybody SHRi BALWANT SINGH RAMOOW- knows that AIADMK has split. You are not ALIA (Sangrur): though we do not support permitting the other group to have their say. them, we support that they should be given Certainly it is undemocratic. They must be time to speak. permitted. SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: On behalf ( Interruptions) of AIADMK I have already spoken ...

MR. CHAIRMAN: If there is a split in the ( Interruptions) party, the concerned Party first wifl have to

• Not recorded 531 St. Res/. reo App. FEBRUARY 23. 1988 about 532 of Proci. Tamil Nadu

SHRI E. AYVAPU REDDY: I am on a ( Interruptions) poi"t of order. The base of President's rule wason account of split. How can you say that MR. CHAIRMAN: Hon. Members, Hyou you do not know of that? do not resume your seats, I will name you and I will ask you to withdraw from the MR. CH~IRMAN: The hon. senior House... Member must know that the Governor re- ports to the Government and not to the ( Interruptions) Speaker. MR. CHAIRMAN: Please resume your ( Interruptions) seats ...

THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS ( Interruptions) (S. BUTA SINGH): I am grateful to the hon. Members for having participated on the DR. S. JAGATHRAKSHAKAN: This is Resolution moved by me this morning. not fair. We feel strongly about it and as a namely, that this House approves the Proc- protest we are walking out. lamation issued by the President on the 30th January 1988 under articte 356 of the [At this stage Dr. S. Jagathrakshakan and Constitution in relation to the State of Tamil some other hon. Members left the House.} Nadu. SHRI E. AVYAPU REDDY: You must The Members participated in the debate have permitted .... (Interrl.!ptions). have not made any new points. All that they have done is to criticise the role of the S. BUTA SINGH: Mr. Ayyapu Reddy, Governor. the role of the Congress Party and you know the rules of this House. It is the the role of the Speaker of the Tamil Nadu Chair .... (Interruptions). Assembly. I will briefly touch upon all the three points and place before the House the SHRI E. AYY APU REDDY: There were exact position which prevailed on the fateful number of times when Jan Morcha people date of 28th .January inside the Assembly of were permitted to speak. How are they re- the State of Tamil Nadu. If there was any cognised as a separate party? Have they event in the political life of our country where been recognised as a separate party? No. all the parties have unanimously expressed they have not been recognised ... themselves. it was the total condemnation by all the political parties of the events that ( Interruptions). took place inside the Tamil Nadu Assembly. I do not know with what face some 'of the S. BUTA SINGH: You know it is the Members of this august House today have ruling of the Chair. I have no authority on tried to justify. If you look at the events in that regulating the business of the House, it is for House ... the Chair to decide. Therefore. it is the Speaker's authority, and there is a proce- ,Interruptions). dure laid down. If there was a split in the party or if some of the Members leave a particular party, they have to come to the Speaker. The MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Selvendran, I will Speaker has lO follow a procedure and then be forced to name) )u if you do not resume he has to lay certain norms in the House, and your seat. .. only then the hon. Members can speak. We 533· St. Resl. rs. App. PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) about 534 of Procl. TamHNadu

are not against anybody participating in the mony and peace and trying to implement the debate. accord which was signed between the lead· ers of India and Sri Lanka. I have seen the Mr. Chairman, Sir, I am grateful to the press reports, even the bitterest critic of hone Members for participating on the Reso- Indo-Sri Lanka accord, the leader of the lution which has been the subject matter of DMK, has suggested that the presence of discussion of this august House since this IPKF in Sri Lanka is essential, although he morning, namely, "That this House approves has suggested certain things that this should the Proclamation issued by the President on be done and that should be done, even he the 30th January, 1988 under article 356 of has not objected to the presence of IPKF... the Constitution in relation to the State of Tamil Nadu." . SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: He has not said that. At the time of introduction, I had briefly summed up the circumstances described by S. BUTA SINGH: Yes. the Governor of Tamil Nadu, leading to the situation under which he recom mended to SHRI N. V.N. SOMU: No, no. Even now the President for the proclamation of this he is condemning the atrocities of IPKF. Ordinance. S. BUTA SINGH: In 'The Hindu' report, The hone Members who participated in he has said that the presence of .. the debate have made two-three points. One thing which has surprised me is that certain SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: When I say that, political parties who were participating in 'The Hindu' has said this about IPKF and that high drama, today sought to give a that, you will not believe? different picture. Mr. Kurup's party was there, Janata Party was there, CPI was ( Interruptions) there, CPI (M) was there - all politicnl parties - and if there was one event in our MR. CHAIRMAN: Hon. Member, you political life in which the entire political set up ple~se keep quiet. in Tamil Nadu agreed on that particular day, it was the condemnation of the conduct of SHRI N. V.N. SOMU: Mr. Chairman, the the hon. Speaker in Tamil Nadu on that same Prime Minister, Mr. Rajiv Gandhi, particular day. But now I find that certain hone when I cited from the "Hindu"that the IPKF is Members are trying to justify and lay the kept under Jayewardene, Dr. Pereira spoke blame on the Congress Party here and the like that in Parliament. the same Prime Governor there, and are trying to justify that Minister did not accept liThe Hindu". He said, what has happened cannot be upheld ac- lEvan Mr. Somu waives 'The Hindu' 10 cording to the Constitution of India. Shri times, I will not believe, that is not the official Ayyappu Reddy, in the beginning, made version. How can I believe it now? some good points. He was quite right when he mentioned that what is at stake in Tamil ( Interruptions) Nadu is the national interest. We agree with him, the people of Tamil Nadu have realised S. BUTA SINGH: Now, you have not the importance of the Indo-Sri Lanka accord, speft out ... (Interruptions). Evan now, after the importance of IPKF being present in Sri this intervention, you have not been able to Lanka and the historic role that our valiant say what is your attitude towards the role of jawans are playing in maintaining the har- IPKF. Your leader has gone on record ... 535 St. Resl. reo App. FEBRUARY 23, 1988 about 536 olProcl. Tamil Nadu

( Inte"uptions) SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: No, no. I did not say that. The Prime Minister, Mr. Rajiv SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: It is not Indian Gandhi, wh~n I quoted "The Hindu" he re- Peace Keeping Force, it is the innocents' fused to accept. kill ing force. MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Somu, that is not S. BUTA SINGH: Your leader hasgone the problem here. on record to say that the presence of IPKF...... SHAI N. VJ~. SOMU: Now he is quoting from the same uHindu" SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: You first of all stop the atrocities there. (Interruptions). S.BUTASINGH: Idonotknowwhether the han. Member knows what his party S. BUTASINGH: lam sorry I can't have stands for. this kind of running debate. SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Now there is a ( Interruptions) difference in what he said ... (lnterruptions)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Order, order. You S.BUTA SINGH: No, no. There is no cannot make noise like this. If you want, you difference. You are putting a condition that can ask a question. But you cannot speak on if we are able to talk to Mr. Prabhakaran, you this now. don't object to the role of the IPKF.

SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: I want to know SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: I did not say that. from the Minister.. First of all, stop the killings of the L TIE people. Place call them to the discussion MR. CHAIRMAN: If you want, you can table. Sir. ask a question, but you cannot speak. The Minister is on his legs. (Interruptions)

SHRI N.V.N.SOMU: Sir, the IPKF S. BUTA SINGH: Let me make it clear, people are doing all sorts of atrocities there. Sir, I had the privilege of associating myself with the process at the time when this accord MR. CHAIRMAN: That is a statement, was being worked out. I remember late Shri that is not a question. M.G.R. was in Delhi, Mr. Prabhakaranwasin Delhi and everything which has been in- S. BUTA SINGH: I repudia1ethis allega- cluded in the agreement was okayed by Mr. tion made by the han. Member on the con- Prabhakaran and by Mr. MGR. Mr. duct of the IPKF. The people of India know Prabhakaran has not so far repudiated this. the historic role of the IPKF and the valiant soldiers who are laying their lives to uphold the integrity of our country and the freedom SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Read liThe Hindu" and the accord that has been signed be- of August 5th. 1W99n India and Sir Lanka. What I was saying, and I still maintain is, now he puts the ( Interruptions) condition that we should talk to the leader of LTIE and then he justifies the presence of MR. CHAIRMAN: Please resume your the IPKF there. seat. You cannot intervene. 537 St. Rssl. f8. App. PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) about 538 of Procl. Tamil Nadu

SHRI N. V.N. SOMU: He has categori~ demands and all the points raised by the cally stated he has not given assent to the LTIE leader were included and it was to the accord. He said that he did not know ... even satisfaction of Mr. Prabhakaran, the agree~ what are the conditions in the accord. ment was hammered out.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Please resume your SHRI H.A. DORA: Why was he not seat. asked to sign?

( Interruptions) S. BUTA SINGH: It was not required. It was an agreement between the two sover- SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: He was asked eign countries. He agreed with it and then urgently to come to Delhi.. (Interruptions) . this agreement was brought about. This is He was here only to receive a copy of the how it is being implemented. rlccord. The other criticism comes from the han. ( Interruptions) Member form Kerala, Mr. Thampan Tho- mas. I cannot say much because his party is MR. CHAIRMAN: Please resume your knownforsuchthings. They have no definite seat. policy on any issue, whether national or regional or provincial. S.BUTA SINGH: The only difference between then and now is that at that time Mr. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: You will Prabhakaran was near late Mr. MGR. Nowa- have to substantiate that, when you say that days, perhaps your leader has got some my party does not have any policy. magic on Mr. Prabhakaran and that is why perhaps he is saying this. S.BUTA SINGH: Look what happens in Tamil "Jadu. Where were the Janata Party SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Only Tamils are MLAs ? Perhaps the hon. Member does not one problem - not Prabhakaran. know what was their role. The Jenata p&rty MLAs on that fa1eful day cooperated w!th all (Interruptions) the OppoSition Parties, including Congress.

MR. CHAIF.VlAN: Nc, no, Mr. Somu. I SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: That does was tolerating you too much. Now whatever not mean, you invoke President's rul~ there you say will not go on record. and impose a r;;le like this.

You are saying so much without the You ought to have explored the pos~;­ permission of the chair. bility of forming 'the Government of the people. ( Interruptions) S. BUTA SINGH: Their MLAs were MR. CHAIRMAN: Please resume your persent at the time when the unfortunate seat. Please sit down. thing happened, When the Speaker of the Assembly second time adjourned the (Interruptions) House, some of the hon. tv'iembers who wer.. 9 not in agreement w!th the ruling of the chair, S.BUTA SINGH: As I said, I was asso- were the~A. Their Janata MLAs were ~Iso ciated myself with it. At that time all the sitting in the House. They went to the exterlt 539 St Resl. reo App. FEBRUARY 23, 1988 about 540 of PIOCI. Tamil Nadu

[So Buta Singh] stands the situation. He understands the of accepting another person, another hon. political situation in Tamilnadu. But. unfortu- Member as 'Speaker of the House. Now, it is natelytoday he is trying to put blame on me, for my hon. friend to come here and say on my party and on my Leader. My Leader certain things to the extent of going back on made it very. clear on 27th, a day before the everything that happened on that day, as if Assembly was to meet. I got information that Janata Party is the only Party which commits the then Chief Minister and her Party col- no sin. It finds. on a second thought, what- leagues were trying to persuade the Mem- ever has been done in a particular given bers - I use the word 'persuade'. Some of situat ..... n was not correct. Like Dandavate ji the hon. Members have used other words my distingushed friend, I can cite examples and other terms. I will not go to that - They but I do not want to divert from the major were trying to persuade even the Members issue. Otherwise, if you look at the role of the of our Party who had committed; "We will not Janata. Party leaders in your State, some of oppose you" When it came to me, I immedi- my distinguished colleagues are trying to ately cont~cted the hon. Chief Minister Smt. describe their party's stance, their stand in Janaki and I asked her; "Where is the neces- the Assembly elections, Panchayat elec- sity, Madam? why should you do all these tions. What was the stand of your Party in things?" She said; I am not interested in this. Tripura ? Mr. chairman, when I went to Seme over-enthusiastic Members of my Tripura, their people met me and started Cabinet and some industrialists in thdir complaining against the CPM Government. anxiety, they are trying to persuade some of They said" You are the only saviour" they your Party Members and other Party Mem·· said, "You send the Central forces so that bers to collect as much support as we can". peaceful elections would be held in Tripura". I said: "You don't require that thing because we have decided and there is a simple Now the hon. Member says IIWhat you proposition that Members present and vot- have done in Tripura, you are going to do in ing will decide and you have a clear majority. Madras". In Tripura, what has happened is, Why should you commit it? Why should you peaceful elections have been conducted, try to disturb the discipline of our Party wr.ich people have given their verdict and the has pledged: "We will into interfere with the present Government has come through the groups tomorrow and your Government has people's verdict. no dang~r". A little later, I contacted one of their party leaders here and he also prom- SHRI SAIFlJDDIN CHOWDHARY ised to speak to the hon. Chief Minister. After (Katwa): Why are you talking about Tripura? speaking to the hone Chief Minister he also Why cue you replying to that? confirmed that there was. some move and have advised their leaders not to do this. S. BUTA SINGH: If I do not reply, I will be May I know from the hon. Members who accused. I am trying to mention only the role have just now walked out and some of the of Janata Party in each and every situation. political party 19aders sitting here now in- You go to Punjab. See what their role is. It is cluding Shri Ayyapu Reddy-Ji who are trying like ades9rted monument-Janata Party of to lend their sunport to the Janaki Govern- 1978 - where has it gone. All the elements ment now.. have gone astray. (Interruptions) SHRI E.AVVAPU REDDY: Please don't That is why, I am saying that the hon. rr!sunderstand me and don't misinterpret M9mber is misplaced. He is an intellig9nt me. I cl~arly Inade it that we are not support- Member. That is my problem. He under- ing either group. I raised it on that simple 541 'St. Res/. re. App. PHALGUNA 4. 1909 (SAKA ) about 542 of Procl. TamHNadu point that they must be given an opportunity Sri Lankan Accord's cause 0,. it was a ques- of being heard. This is the basic right which tion of bringing the entire Tamil Nadu popu- you are denying. lation into the mainstream of Indian life, he always viewed the issue from the nationalis- S. BUTA SINGH: I am not saying here. tic point of view. That is why, we were keen that this ideology, his policy should not be SHRI E.AYYAPU REDDY: let me say, disturbed in the nati" :lal interest. That is why Buta Singh ~Ji that when the Janaki Govern- he took that particular line. But unfortunately ment was being sworn-in you certainly We got the disturbing information that this should have been consulted by the Govern- thing is going to happen. What happened the ment and the governor should have ascer- next day? Our party was to mget at 8. O' tained whether there is comm:.:mant on part clock. We found that a good number of of the Congress Party to support her or not. MLAs were coming to the party. Oid it not Without even ascertaining whether the prove what I had informed the previous day? Congress Party, which is the next major party, is going to support her, the Govern- ( Interruptions) ment should not have sworn-in Mrs. Janaki. SHRI E.AYVAPU REDDY: They may S.BUTA SINGH: I think the best that we not be in Madras. could do under the circumstances after the sudden death of late Shri M.G. Ramachan- S. BUTA SINGH: They were, all in dran was that we made it clear to the leader- Madras. The Members were coming. There· ship of the AIADMK that the Congress Party fore, we were left with no option. We had to will not side with anybody either coming out tell the Hon. Chief Minister that if that was of the Party or trying to split the party. You the game, then sorry, we could not support have mentioned in your speech ~hat it was you. You have started spliting our party. our spirituai , constitutional, moral and legal Therefore, there was no way left and we had duty to see that the AIADMK is not split. How. to take the difficult decision. We could do it only by assuring our solid support. Now what happens in the Assembly The report subm itted by the Governor make SHRI E.AYVAPU REDDY: A charis- it very clear. If you read the report which has matic leader like Shri Rajiv Gandhi and with been circulated to the Han. Members, at you, manning the Home Ministry, do you sa~' page 6, he gives very clearly his views about that it was not possible for you to get it done. what happened inside the AssEtn~bly. At page 9, ~e says. S.BUTA SINGH: Sorry, we do not have a wise person like you. We thcught in our "It WClS improper on the ~ al t of the own way that the best way is to keep away Speaker to have adjolJrnAd the H"use from the factional fighting inside the AI- at 1 0 0' Clock on the 20th January, ADMK and assured'the han. Chief Minister 1988 in~t9ad of proceeding with the of that time sayir,g; "you should not be afrairl only item on the agenda, that i~, taki.19 of it. We will not side with any group. Our hon. up th9 Motion or Confidencf' in Snri- Prime Minister made a statement th,at he had mali JanaK: Aam.achandran'~ Govern- pledged to the undivided heritage left by Shri ment", M.G Ramachandran was a great champion of national unity and national integration. He What was the agenda? Thare v.!as only had uphald national cause-whether it was ih one point in thL agenda thAt Vote of C'.onfi- 543 St. Resl. reo App. FEBRUARY 23, 1988 about 544 of Procl. Tamil Nadu

[5. Buta Singh] SHRI N. V.N.SOMU: I am not defend- dance was to be sought in the Assembly. ing. And what happens? The Hon. Speaker comes to the Chair and he says, "I have S.BUTA SINGH: I am not yielding. received a telephone call". Will any Speaker ( Interruptions) entertain such a ridiculous proposition that somebody has rang him up that five mem- SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: When the DMK bers of the Congress Party have resigned Members were killed what was the Con- from the membership of the House? You gress party doing? know the rules. Rules are very clear. There is a regular drill given. The letter has to come S.BUTA SINGH: My information at that to the speaker; the Membar has to present particular time Was that we lodged our pro- the letter; and then Speaker has to take a t~st by walking out from the Assembly. We decision. How can the Speaker of Te_mil being the opposition party, you could not Nadu Assembly entertain such a request on have expected much. telephone? Even if that was so, the resigna- tion of five members would no~ have made SHRI P. KOLANOAIVELU: They were any difference because the Motion was for anti-nationals. That is why they had been the Members prese~t and voting. The Mo- ousted from the House. tion would have taken its fate. It would have been passed or defeated. Sut the five SHRI N. V.N. SOMU: We are not anti- Members would not havp. made much differ- nationals, we are anti only to Hindi imposi- ence. Suodenly after announcing this, he tion. adjourns the House. And next when he comes at 12. 0' clock, he, without any inti- SHRI P. KO~ANDAIVELU: They had mation to the House, starts dismissing some burnt a copy of the Constitution. of the out-going ministers including the ou!- going Chief Minister. Was it ever heard ir. the MR. CHAIRMAN (SHRI VAKKOM history of our legislative assemblies that the PIJRUSHOTHAMAN): Please resume YOUI Hon. Spoaker sta~s acti('ln without any seats. , car.not permit this. paper before him? Therefore, all these events indic3\t}d as to what will ha~pen later (Interruptions) on in this House. Suddertly I at 3. 0' clock he comes and disfTlissed the entire section If'J S. BUTA SINGH: Even then we lent our hy Shri "Iedunchezhian thereby reducing rnoral support by staging a walk-out fro~ the the whole House to a mockery. Even ona Assembly. h~lf of the House was not pre~ent when the so-caUtfd Motion was :=tdopted. Is it no the The Hon. Member Shri Thampan Tho- break-down of .thA C()nstitution ? '.s it not a mas said that the Governor is working as an travesty on the rules and the conduct of agent of the Congress (I). In this case if you business? Wha~ else is tt,e const~tutional have gone through the report that the Gover·· position of the State if the Governor has nor h::AS submitted. you would see that the come to this conclus!on? Gov~rnor hc;,5 acted purely according to the C')nstitution. He has discharged his func· tions strictly according to the provisions of ( Interruptions) the Constitution, under Article 356.

MR. CHAIRMAN: Order, order. Tt Ie DMK Member said that we are 545 St. Resl. re. App. PHALGUNA 4. 1909 (SAKA ) about 546 of Procl. Tamil Nadu hanging a Sword of Damocles. WeH, it is the about the Sarkaria Report. I don't know same Sword which is going to give them a which Sarkaria Commission he was refer- chance to go to the people. Otherwise, if this ring to. Was it 67 Sarkaria. or 87 Sarkaria? was not to happen, the DMK Which was being eliminated by the Hon. Speaker in SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU:That is DMK instalments, by now would have been com- Sarkaria Commission. pletely packed out. Who knows, by now not a single Member would have been there! SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: By the same Sar- karia Commission you maligned the DMK. SHRI N. V.N. SOMU: You did not open That is why we are sure that the President's your mouth then. Rule is used as a weapon of the Congress Party. S. BUTA SINGH:· The Governor has come to your rescue. You must thank him at ( Interruptions) least for once .. (/nterruptions} .... You must thank the Governor for you are given at least S. BUTA SINGH: If you are so keen some face to go to the people. You must about having the Sarkaria Commission praise the Governor for he is the one ·who Report published, the Sarkaria Commission gave you the opportunity to go to the people report oi 67 is vary well referred to in the and seek their mandate. Assembly of Tamil Nadu. I have no objection if xou want to have it published ...... (Int9r- Some Han. Members objected to one of ruptions) ..... my distinguished colleagues, a very senior I~ader, going as PCC President. Well, he is The present Sarkaria Commission re- our leader by his own right and there is port is engaging the attention of the State nothing wrong if the congress Party goes, Governments, this august House, the State mobilises the people and tries to gather Assemblies and we are willing to review and sufficient support to come back to the As- take a definite view on it as soon as we are sembly. What is wrong in that? It is our right able to get the opinion of all the concerned under the Constitution. All political parties States, the Parliament and the Assemblies. strive for that, we will definitely do that and I Definitely we will come before this august am sure that with the help of the people of House on positive lines that the Government Tamil Nadu, the secular forces, the national- of India would like to have on the Sarkaria ist forces, the progressive forces, we are Commission Report. obliged to uphold the great ideology of Mahatma Gandhi, lately followed by the late With these remarks r would commend Shri MGR. We will see to it that the values to this Han. House. There is a slight amend- that he held high in his life time are allowed ment which my dear friend, Shri Jeevarathi· to continue without any difficulty in Tamil nam wanted to highlight. I am sorry under the Nadu. present circumstances this proclamation has to be passed as it is. If the han. Member With this hope, I a~ sure that this House is really keen to press his point I can have it will agree with me that we will expect the re-examined and then we mayan a later people of Tamil Nadu to bring back a Gov- occasion come to the House if there is sub- ernment which will serve the people of Tamil stance in the point raised by the hon. Mem- Nadu. ber. I will come back to the House jf it is necessary but at the moment this proclama- The DMK leader was trying to mention tion as moved must be passed unanimously. 547 Pars; Marriage FEaRUARY 23, 1988 (Arndt.) 548 & Divorce Bill

MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: India.

-That1hia House approvQ the Proc~ The Minorities Commission had also mation issued by the President on the received both these proposals. The Minori- 30th January, 1988 under article 356 ties Commission had considered these two of fhe Constitution in relation to the sets of proposals and had recommended State of Tamil Nadu." that since the Bombay Parsi Panchay~t is a representative body of the Pars; community and it has taken into consideration the opin- ions of similar other such Panchayats within the country, the amendments proposed by the Bombay Parsi Panchayat should be given preference and be adopted. 16.51 hr•. The proposals were also circulated PARSI MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE among the State Governments and the ' (AMENDMENT) BILL Union territory administrations, for Jheir comments. The majority of the State [English] Governments and Union territory admini- strations have recommended the accep- MR. CHAIRMAN: Now the House will tance of the proposed amendments. The take up item No. 12 of the agenda. Shri H.R. Government has, therefore. decided to go Bhardwaj ..... ahead with the proposed amendments and as a result thereof has brought the presQnt THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Bill. MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHAI H.R. BHARDWAJ): Sir, I beg to move: The main purpose of the amendments inoorporated in the Bill is to bring the provi- "That the Bill furtherto amend the Parsi sions of the Parsi Marriage and Divorce Act. Marriage and Divorce Act, 1936. as 1936 in line with the provisions contained in passed by Rajya Sabha, be taken into the Hindu Marriage Ad, 1955 and the Spe- consideration. " cial Marriage Act, 1954.

The law relating to Marriage and Divorce The Child Marriage Restraint Act, 192.9 among Parsis is contained in Parsi Marriage was amended in 1978 to provide therein that and Divorce Act, 1936. Since the enactment the marriageable age in the case of male of this Act no substantial amendments were shall be 21 years and in the case of female carried out in view of the declared policy of 18 years. It is proposed to bring the provi- the Government not to effect any changes in sions of Parsi Marriage and Divorce Act, the personal laws of the minority communi- 1936 in tune with this amendment. Section 3 ties unless the initiative therefor comes from of the Ad is therefore propos~ to be the minority communities themselves. Such amended for that purpose. It has also been an initiative has now come from the Parsi proposed to provide therein that the children community in the form of two sets of propos- of marriages which are declared invalid als: One from the Chairman, Board of Trus- under the Ad shall be deemed to be legiti- t ..s of the, P:usi Panchavat. Bombay and mate children. other from Mrs. Maher Master-Moos repre- senting the Federation of Parsi AAjumans of Sections 19 and 20 of the Principal Ad 549 Parsl Marriage PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) (Arndt.) 550 & Divorce Bill make provision for appointment of seven decree granted by the court. These are delegates to help the presiding judge of the some of the important proposals contained Parsl matrimonial courts in matrimonial in the Bill. The Bill also contains certain other matters. Now-a-days it is difficult to get amendments which are of a consequential seven delegates for this purpose. It has nature. therefore been proposed ~o reduce the number of delegates from seven to five. It Sir, I request the Bill be considered. has also been proposed that the courts can decide the matters relating to interlocutory MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: proceedings, alimony, maintenance, mat- ters relating to custody and education of "That the Bill further to amend the Pars; children etc. without the help of the dele- Marriage and Divorce Act, 1936, as gates. passed by Rajya Sabha, be taken into consideration: Another important amendment pro- posed is to add a newgroundfordivorce; the [ Translation] ground of insanity of either spouse after the • marriage. The ~xisting clause (b) provides SHRIMATI N.P. JHANSI LAKSHMI relief on the ground that the dependent is of (Chittoor): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I welcome the u nsou nd mind at the time of his marriage and Bill to amend the Parsi Marriage and Divorce has been habitually so upto the date of filing Act,1936. of a suit. The new ground provides relief if insanity supervenes after the marriage. h The Parsi Marriage and Divorce Act has also been proposed to insert a further was enacted in the year 1936. Now it is more ground of cruelty for obtaining divorce under than 50 years since the original Act was the Act. Presently cruelty is a ground for made. Sir, the outlook of many religions has judicial separation under section 34 of the undergone a sea change. The society is Act. Both these proposals are on the lines of advancing very rapidly. I am proud to say the provisions contained in the Hindu Mar- that our Parsi brothers are most progressive riage Act, 1955. minded section of our society. They have made valuable contribution in all field •. Both the Special Marriage Act, 1954 Though their number;s less, the contribution and the Hindu Marriage Act, 1955 provide for they made is quite remarkable. Now this a divorce by mutual consent. h is thought amending Bill has been brought forward at necessary that when both the spouses are their instance. It reflects their progressive ready to break the marriage tie by mutual outlook and intention to march ahead in tune "consent, they should be allowed to do so. with the changing times. The new section 328 is therefore proposed to be inserted in the principal Act to provide It is heartening to note that certain mutual consent as a ground for divorce. changes are made in the parent act plugging the loopholes, if there are any, through this It has also been proposed to insert new amending bill. This Act is being brought in section 32A to provide an additional ground line with the Hindu Marriage Act 1955" and for divorce when there is no resumption of Special marriage Act, 1954. A certain uni- co-habitation or restitution of conjugal rights formity has now been brought in. Let me for a period of one year in pursuance with a hope Sir, that other communities would also

··The speech was originally delivered in Telugu. 551 Pars; Marriag9 FEBRUARY 23, 1988 (Amdt.) 552 & Divorce Bill

[Shrimati N.P. Jhansi Lakshmi] ground for divorce. The dowry menace is come forward to change the obsolete laws much prevalent in our society. Hence the paving the way for a uniform civil code harassment for bringing in more dowry throughout the country. Religion should not should also be treated as cruelty for the come in the way of dispensing justice. No purpose. If the wife desires, the divorce oneto whichever community he may belong, should be granted to her on this ground. should be deprived of justice. Justice should be equal and be available to every one. Now Sir, what is strange in this Bill is to make a good beginning is being made in this noble conversion as the ground for obtaining di- direction. Let us hope that the day is not far vorce. National integration is the need of the off when a common civil code is made appli- hour. We want that the people belonging to cable throughout the country. I compliment various religions should live harmoniously. Parsis for taking this bold step. This harmonious living is better achieved only when there are inter-caste and inter Sir, it is proposed in this Bill to reduce religious marriages. Only then we can pro- the number of delegates from 7 tQ 5 to assist mote the unity and integrity of the nation. the Presiding Judge of the Parsi Matrimonial Even the Govt. is taking all the possible Court. Since it is always not possible to find steps to promote such marriages. Hence, 5 eligible persons for doing the duty of dele- making conversion as the ground for divorce gates, it is better to reduce the number . is contrary to the prinCiple we preach and further to 3. Hope, the han. Minister would practice. Hence I r~quest the han. Ministerto take note of this suggestion. Moreover, Sir, reconsider this particular amendment and there is no specific procedure or norm to withdraw it. select the delegates. Qualifications etc. that are required to carryon this noble function Sir, I consider introduction of this Bill as are also not clear. Hence I request the hon. a progressive step. A good beginning has Minister to clarify the position. Sir, another now been ma~e by introducing this. Bill. I important amendment proposed now is to hope many more such amendments will add a new ground for divorce, the ground of come before this House. ultimately leading insanity of either of the spouses after mar- to a uniform civil code applicable equally to riage. Modern medicine has developed to all citizens of his country. such an extent that there is almost no ali- ment which is beyond any cure. So it is not Thanking you for the opportunity you advisable to grant the divorce on the ground have provided me to speak. I conclude my of insanity immediately. Sufficient intergnum speech. should be provided. The ailing person may get cured during this period. So I request that 17.00 hrs. the bill be amended such a way as to provide sufficient time before granting divorce. [English]

A provision is being made in the Princi- SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER (Bangalore pal Act through this amendment to make South): Sir, when the Muslims Marriage mutual consent as a ground for divorce Divorce Bill came here in the last session, Mutual consent should be based on hon- the Government had given an assurance esty. Sufficiant care should be taken to see that they will come forward with a Bill with that mutual consent is not forced on either of uniform civil code. I find that this amendment the spouses by coercion or force. There is is in the right direction leading towards it. I do gat another proposal to make cruelty as a not find any hope of the uniform civil code at 553 Parsi Marriage PHALGUNA 4. 1909 (SAKA ) (Amdt.) 554 & Divorce Bill all even after 40 years of independence. We the support they rendered to me. The issue are dealing with every religion seperatety. of the uniform civil code is wholly a different We never expected free India to go like this. issue and that is a matter about which we That is why I am stressing that the Govern- have spoken in the House that any laws ri~ent must take early steps in this direction regarding the marriage and maintenance because there are progressive forces in all and divorce relating to the minority commu- religions. It will be discouraging the funda- nities will always be considered at the initia- mentalists also. The Government has not tive of the community itself. That is what our taken any action to bring forward common founding fathers gave assurance to them civil code Bill. I would like to know from the that contrary to their will. nothing will be done Law Minister whether Government had in their marriage and maintenance matters. taken any steps in order to bring forward a They are matters which are wholly personal. uniform civil code. I remember as a Con- There are various systems in our country. gress man, not as a Congress (I) man, that We are a secular society and we are proud MahatmaGandhi and Nehru usedto say that of it. That is ona thing that India possesses. India will have a uniform civil code but unfor- Hindu is proud of being Hindu and a Muslim tunately, we are going backwards. I would is proud of being a Muslim and so on. But all earnestly and emphatically urge upon the of them are Indians and that Indianness has Government to make a beginning. In the to be appreciated. Nothing should be done to interest of the national integration, it is nec- divide this Indian ness. Our diversity should essary that we should have a uniform civil be ultimately reflected in unity of Ind,ia and code. I ~ope the han. Minister will give a that is where we would like to consider to suitable reply to this. So far as this Bill is what extent the personal laws of the commu· concerned, it is definitely better than the nities can be changed. I quite appreciate that previous one. I welcome the amendment the ultimate goal for any society is naturally .with the hope that the Minister will bring to have common codes, as far as possible forward a uniform civil code very soon. and in India I can proudly say that 95 per cent of our laws are common; our civil law is SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: Sir, I submit common, our criminal law is common, our that this is a Bill which is very forward-looking evidence law is common. But sometimes and I also mention that the Parsi community, there is a conflict regarding personal laws being a minority community, have gone into like marriage laws etc. It is a personal matter a detailed discussion as to whdt amendment for a man; somebody would like it to be they would like to hav I in the Marriage and performed in this way and somebody else Divorce Act. So, the rE )resentation from the would like it to be performed in another way. community has been accepted in all the That is the system we have adopted for ages States by the relevant forums, namely, by and, therefore, inrtiative for any change must the Parsi Panchayat, Bombay and come from the community itself. For minor;· Anjumans. So, the provisions of this Bill are ties, we have a consideration and assur- now equal to the provisions of the Hindu ances have been given by Dr. Ambedkar, Marriage and Special Marriage Act. Nehru, Indiraji and others and as I have told in this House earlier also these assurances coming as they were from the founding fa- 17.04 hrs. thers of the Indian Constitution have to be respected. Nothing should be done In a (HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair] hurry, but something which the nation 8S a whole suggests at a particular time will be I am grateful to the hon. Members for very much welcomed. 555 Parsl Marriage FEBRUARY 23, 1988 (Amdt.) 556 & Dhiorcs Bill

ISh. H.R. Bhardwaj] for "1987" SUbstitute "1988" As far as this Bill is concerned. I submit that a particular community has made cer- (ii) line 44, - tain suggestions after a lot of deliberations to maet" the exigencies of time. May be in the for "1987" substitute "1988" (3) next few years some other community may like to amend Acts pertaining to their per- [SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ] sonal laws. The need of the hour is that we progress and the education spreads, we will MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- have such amendments and at one point of tion is: time, we will have almost a common civil code. That is the goal which is laid in the "That Clause 9. as amended. stand Constitution. pa.rt of the Bill"

With these words. I request that this The motion was added. baing a very progressive legislation. the Bill .may be passed. Clause 9, as amended, was added to ths Bill. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- tion is: Clauses 10 to 20 were added to the Bill.

"That the Bill furthert,o amend the Parsi Clause 1 Marriage and Divorce Act. 1936. as passed by Rajya Sabha, be taken into Amendment made: . consideration." Page 1. Hne 4. - The motion was adopted. for "1987" substitute 111988" (21) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, we will take up clause by clause consideration of the [SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ] Bill. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- The question is: tion is:

leThat clauses 2 to 8 stand part of the "That Clause 1. as a.mended, stand Bill." part of the Bill."

The motion was adopted. The f7]otion was adopted.

Clauses 2 to 8 were added to the Bill. Clause 1. as amended, was added to the Bill. Claus. 9 (Insertion of new sections 32A and 328) Enacting Formula

Amendment made: Amendment made:

Page 3. (i) line 27.- Page 1, line 1 ,- 557 Replacing & PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Amending SIR '558 for ''Thirty-eighth- substitute NTh i rty- measures by which enactments which have ninth- (1) ceased to be in forca or have become obso- late or the retention whereof as separate [SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ] Acts is unnecessary ara repealed or by which formal dafects detected in any enact- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKR: The question ment are corrected.-1"he enactments which is: are sought to be repealed are mentioned in the First Schedule, and the ena~ment8 "That Enacting Formula, as amended, which are sought to be amended are men- stand part of the Bill." tioned in the Second Schedule, to the Bill. The amendments proposed in the Second The motion was adopt9d. Schedule are purely formal in nature and are aimed at correcting technical errors or d. The Enacting Formula, as ~mend8d, was fects. The notes on the Second Schedule added to the Bill. appended to the Bill indicate briefly the raa· sons for the amendments that are proposed The Title was added to the Bill. to the various enactments contained in that Schedule. SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: I beg to move: The last repealing and amending Bill ''That the Bill, as amended, be passed" was passed in 1978 covering Acts upto and inclusive of the year 1975. In the present Bill, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- Acts from 1976 upto the year 1984 are being tion is: ·covered. It affects 261 enactments. This measure is of a very non-controversial and "That the Bill, as amended, be passed" formal nature and is referred to as the "scav- enging of the statute book". The motion was adopted. I oommend this motion for the accep- tance of the House.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Motion 17.10 hrs. moved:

REPEALING AND AMENDING BILL "That the Bill to repeal certain enaa- ments and to amend certain other [English] enactments as passed by Rajya Sabha, be taken into consideration". THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND JUSTICE (SHRI SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA (Vishnupur): H.R. BHARDWAJ): I beg to move: Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, there is a whole list of Bills which the Government says ;s one of "That the Bill to repeal certain enact- those periodical measures by which the ments and to amend certain othe'r enactments which have ceased to be in enactments, as passed by· Rajya force or have become obsolete are repealed Sabha. be taken into consideration.- or by which he formal defects in any enact- ment are corrected. Sir, now, we have togo Sir. this Bill ;s one of those periodiCal by what the Minister has said. The MinJst~r 559 Replacing & FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Am9nding Bill 560

[Sh. Ajit Kumar Sahal from any debt penalty, obligation, liability, has said that those enactments are of no claim or demand, or any indemnity already consequence and are only of technical na- granted, orthe proof of any past act orthing." ture so as to rectify certain errors. But in any case, I want to suggest that 40 years have If a particular law so far has not been passed since we have attained independ- repealed, and certain action has been taken ence and now time has come when all the under that law. Now you are validating that. laws should be thoroughly reviewed in the Suppose that particular action taken is light of the past experience. There are some against the public interest, then what would other laws which originate from British days. you do now. Because they became obsolete There are Taxation Laws, Factory Acts, or you have amended the act and if that Penal Code, etc. We have not given any action has taken place according to the thought to them. Government only periodi- statute it would be correct. It is because so cally introduces some amendments. There- far, you have not repealed it, the law will be fore, if a break with the past is necessary, valid. So if any action has taken place, you simply through amendments such breaks are going to validate it. If anything which has cannot be introduced. Sir, Bills like ESMA been dealt in against the public interest, in and NSA are of no consequence today. such cases what you are going to do. What is consequent today is how to stop the disintegration of the country. The Bills like Upto 19S4, the laws have been re- ESMA and NSA restrict the working class pealed. Are there no further Acts, which are who go in the forefront, in the battle to keep worthy to be repealed after 1984-1985 to the country united and see that it retains its 1988? independence from the foreign intrusions. In such laws would the Minister kindly look into Have you consulted all the other Minis~ it and try to take new laws in place of bringing tries? Are you sure that there will be no amendments. With these words, I conclude further law to be repealed between the peri- my speech. ods 1976-1984? Will the Minister kindly answer this? I want to know from the Gov- SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER (Bangalore ernment, why they want so much time to South): Sir, this is really very surprising that repeal an Act? If you say it is a routine matter, the Government wants to strike out with a then it could have been done once in a year. stroke of pen nearly 200 laws. Sir, the Minis- Why do you wait for six years or seven years ter was saying that many of them have to repeal an Act which has become obsolete become obsolete or outdated. There is not or defunct? This is not understandable. At do ubt abo ut it. the end of the Session you can bring in a law or a piece of legislation - a small amend- But to bring it at a later stage like this - ment- repealing the Acts which are obsolete nearly four or five years after the law be- or which are not in force. It only shows the came defunct - will certainly affect the callousness of the Government so far as the society. We see the Minister taking shelter repealing of the acts are concerned. You are under Clause 4 Iland this act shall not affect treating the law lightly because you are the validity, invalidity, effect or conse- repealing a law which is defunct or obsolete. quences of anything already done or suf- But we want at the sametime to be on the fered, or any right, title, obligation or liability statute for years and years. So I would like to already acquired. accrued or incurred. or have a cateQorical reply form the Minister as any remedy or proceeding in respect to how he is going to mend the two points? thereof, or any release or discharge or or Why is such a delay? 561 Repla~ing & PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Amending Bill 562

Lastly I would like to say that in this Bill the computer to know what are the laws in the Government has been callous so far as this country. so, my submission is that if at the repealing the law is concerned .. any point of tima any Bill is introduced, it should be well thought-out and win-planned, SHRI H.A.DORA:(SrikakuJam): Mr. and it must be in th~ interests of the general Deputy Speaker, Sir, as the han. Minister is public. amendments being brought in at aware that there are plethora of legislations- every moment is not good, and it is very both at the State level and also at the Central difficult for the general public to know what level- that it has become difficult even forthe amendments are being carried out, and top lawyers to know what exactly is the law what is the actual law of this land. of the land of this country. Numberof Bills are amended very constantly. Enactments were With 1h~SG suggestions, I conclude my replaced by way of Amendments and also by ramarks. way of Bills. In this Bill we can see the innumerable Amendments and also innu- SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: As I submit- merable repeals that have been sought to be ted at the outset, we are not enacting a new made by the hon. Minister. In this particular law by any of these amendments to the laws. case, some of the Amendments have been This is an exercise which is made to dis- wholly repealed, some of them party and mantle; after the facts are passed and some some of them have been amended. Is it amendments are made, it becomes almost really appreciated by the Governmentwho is inconsequential to retain them in the Statute conducting all these things? I would like to Book. As a matter of fact, this Bill covers upto bring to the notice of the hen. Minister that the amendments made till 1984. there is a controversial Bill - the Postal Bill - which has not yet received the Assent of the The question was raised: why do we President. It is, therefore, imperative that take so much time to bring this? Earlier, this Government must publish annually all the exercise was done by the first Repealing and Bills that laIave been repealed and amended. Amending Act of 1952 then in 1957, by the It is necessaryforthe information and benefit Act 37 of 1957; then in 1960 by Act 58 of of the general public to know as to what are 1960 ; then in 1964 by Act 62 of 1964; and the Bills that have been repealed, and what then 1974 by Act 56 of 1974 and thereafter, are the amendments carried out. the repealing Act 1978 by Act 38 of 1978. After it, this is the 1984 Act. All this time we You are aware that a 101 of confusion is consumed by going to various Ministries, created, not only in the minds of the lawyers, having consultations and telling them; After but also in the minds of the general public this Act, if there is ~nything to be amended or because of the amendments which have corrected, you have to come to us.' So we been constantly made in this regard. Why collected a number of provisions to bring are. these amendments being brought, and before Parliament. It does not create any repeals are made? It is only for the reason law, nor does it try to rspeal any law. It is only that the Bills are not properly prepared, and a correction or scavenging operation that we are not prop .. ·rly presented, and the State- do like when a building is fully constructed. ments of Objects and reasons are not prop- we dismantle sometimes the other materials erJy given, and the legislation is rushed lying here and there, so that it becomes a through, not only in this House but also in the neat and clean building. So, this is that legislatures of the State of this country. That operation; and the Supreme Court has ex- is the reason why there is an enormous plained this operation in one of the decisions amount of law enacted. It is difficult even for where it has said ... 563 R"fJIacIng & FEBRU~V 23, 1988 Amending 811 584 PROF N.G.RANGA:(Guntur): Is it in- SHRI H.A. DORA: There are innumer- tended to confuse the lawyers, or to remove able instances where advocates without the confusion? knowing that a particular amendment has bean carried out are harping on the old SHRI H.R.BHARDWAJ: It is intended to section itseH. remove confusion, like the General Clauses Act. What the Supreme Court says is this. SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: There· are cases where the lawyers are ignorant. (Inte,- -Where any Central Act or Regulation ruptions) There can be no argument on this. made after the commencement of this In all the countries in the world, the scaveng- Act repeals any enactment by ing operation of stat4te is done like this only. amended by which the text of any When you amend a principal act, you have to Central Act or Regulation was repeal later on act and put that amendment amended by the express omission. in original act; and then later on these scav- insertion or substitution of any matter. enging operations like this have to be carried then, unless a different intention ap- out. The same practice is in England. You pears, the appeal shall not affect the cannot introduce a different method be- continuance of any such amendment cause this is of no consequence. Therefore, made by the enactment so repealed this is not at all relevant to whether it will and in operation at the time of such confuse or not confuse. Even as a lawyer, I repeaL- tell you nobody knows how many act are there in India unless you look to the statute. It is absolutely a safe measure by which w. put in order various amendments SHRI H.A. DORA: Even the computer brought in. cannot say this.

SHRI H.R. Bhardwaj: No, no. I know SHRI H.A. DORA: I know you are also today that in 1984 we had done an exercise. an advocate. You remember all these How many remain after 1984? We will come amendments and repeals. If they are not to the Parliament after doing an exercise properly published in the dailies and in the again. We have to go to the various Minis- regional in the country, is it tries to find out how many amendments have humanly possible for us to know all these been made, how many have been incorpo- things? rated and how many amending acts have been passed. We come to the Parliament for SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: Nobody re- their san~ion on this. Otherwise, it is incon- members all these acts-even the biggest . sequential because the original act still stays lawyer in the country. But we always main- and that is the operative act. So, there is tain their book. I am again submitting that we absolutely no difficulty in having these always have an act which is earlier passed. operations. It puts in order at least all these When the Parliament passes an act and lists. So, this is the operation which is done makes some amendments in the original in almost all the countries where legislation act, those amendments are incorporated in is passed by the Parliament. So, all these the original act, and that act remains. So, the measures are done after 5 years, 10 years fact is all the repealing acts or amending acts model because we do not come to Parlia- are to be sometimes put into this list and then ment for one amending act. So, we collect the matter is over. Therefore, that amend- the list of the statutes from all the Ministries. ment is incorporated. (Inter ruptions) Upto 1984, we have done the 565 Replacing & PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA) exercise. Now in three years. we will be MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The qU8~lon completing the next Bill and the exercise will. is: be complete. "That Clause 1. as amended, stand MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question part of the Bill" is: The motion was adoptlld. "That the Bill to repeal certain enact- ments and to amend certain other en- Clauses 1, as amended, was addlKJ to the actments, as passed by Rajya Sab~a, Bill be taken into consideration."

The motion was adopted. Enacting formula

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now. we will Amendment made: take up clause·by-clause consideration of the Bill. Page 1, line 1,-

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question for "Thirty-seventh" substitute "Thirty· is: ninth" (1)

''That Clauses 2 to 4 stand part of the . [SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ] BilL" MR. DEPUlY-SPEAKER: The ques- The motion was adopted. tion is:

Clauses 2 to 4 were added to the Bill "That the Enacting Formula, as amended, stand part of the Bill" MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The question is: The motion was adopted.

"That the First Schedule and Second The Enacting Formula as amended was Schedule stand part of the Bill." added to the Bill.

The motion was adopted. The Titl9 was added to the Bill.

First Schedul9 and Second Schedule were added to the Bill. SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ: Sir, I beg to move: Clause 1 "That the Bill, as amended, be Amendment made: passed".

Page 1, line 3,- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques .. tion is: for "1986" substitut9-"198S" (2) 11Th at the Bill; as amended, be [SHRI H.R. BHARDWAJ] passed". 567 Auth. Translation FEBRUARY 23, 1988 Laws) Arndt 568 Central Bill

The motion was adopted. amending bill has been brought forWard with a vi'ew to meet the above requirement. After passing this amending Bill authoritative texts 17.32 hrs. of Central Acts in other languages men- tioned in the Constitution in addition to Hindi, AUTHORISED TRANSLATIONS (CEN- will be made available. Consequently, it TRAL LAWS) AMENDMENT BILL would pave the way of quoting them in the courts situated in the States concerned. This [ Translation] will help in increasing the use of official languages of the States in their respective THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE courts. MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI): Mr. Deputy It would be a mile-stone in the direction Speaker, Sir, I beg to move: of increasing the use of regional languages other than Hindi mentioned in the eighth 11Th at the Bill to amend authorised, schedule of the Constitution in the field of Translations (Central Laws) Amendment Law. Act, 1983, as passed by Rajya Sabha, be taken into consideration." With these words, I would submit to the House to take this Bill into consideration and Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, at present, in pass it unanimously. accordance with the provision made in the Official Languages Act, 1963, a translation SHRI G. BHOOPATHY (Peddapalli): in Hindi published under the authority of the Sir, I welcome the Authorised Translations President of any Central Act or of any Ordi- (Central laws) Amendment Bill and felicitate nance promulgated by the President, or of the hon'ble Minister for this. Here in this any order, rule, regulation or bye-law issued House, we have been permitted to make under the Constitution or under any Central speech in any of the 14 languages, but it is Act is deemed to be the authoritative text published only in Hindi. Why it can't be thereof in Hindi. But there is no such provi- published in all the 1'4 languages? sion at present with regard to the issuance of authoritative text of Central acts in other A number of good and important Bills official languages of the country except in are brought forward in this House and they Hindi. tn accordance with the provision are passed. But the people living in every made in section 2 of Authorised Translations nook a'td corner in the country do not know {Centrallaws)Act. 1973. 1973. a translation that,such Bills have been passed here. It is, of any Central Act etc. in a language, other therefore. imperative that the tribals and the than Hindi. mentioned in the eighth schedule people living in every nook and corner of the 1 .. of the Constitution; published under the country be made aware of it. authority of the President, is deemed to be authoritative. A Parliamentary Publication in each of the regional languages should be brought Demand has been made from time-to~ out in each State and it should be made time that arrangements should be made to available at all the far off places of the make available the authoritative text of country so that more and more poor people Central Acts in the other languages men- can read it and everybody could know as to tioned in the eighth schedule of the what is going on in the Parliament and which Constitution also, in addition to Hindi. This Bms have been passed by the Parliament. 569 Auth. Translation PHALGUNA 4, 1909 (SAKA ) Laws) Amat. &/0 Central Bill

This knowledge will help them in bringing like Tamil, Telugu, Bengali or Oriya. Thanks revolution. Moreover, they should also have to the economic policy of the Central Gov- knowledge about the lawsy passed by this ernment, the States suffer from a chronic House. financial stringency because the Central Government tries its best to deprive the In each and every State there are some State Government of additional finances. offices of the Central Government. If any Look at the Income tax. They have not raised notice is to be issued by these offices to a the rates of income tax lest the States are to labourer, that is also issued in English but he get their share. Rather, they have imposed does not know English but he does not know the surcharge. Similarly. they have not in .. English and therefore, cannot read it and has creased the excise duty. Rather by increas- to send its reply by getting it read by some ing the administered prices, they are trying to other person which might cost him a sum deprive the States of any financial benefit. ranging from Rs. 10to 15.lt is indeed a sorry state of affairs. Similarly, regional languages We urge upon the Government that it should be used in Munsif courts, lower should spend money for the promotion and courts, district courts and the offices of development of other languages too. In this Central G~vernment located in the states. connection, I would urge upon the Govern- Facility for translation should also be pro- ment to translate all future Bills into lan- vided and entire law literature should avail- guages included in the Eighth Schedule. able be in regional language for the conven- Otherwise, it seems that it will remain a pious ience of the public. platitude as regards translation of Central laws into other languages is concerned. In Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, with these this connection, I would also urge on the words, I conclude. Central Government to see whether Nepali can be inciuded in the Eight Schedule. This (English] demand is not a new one. We have been placing this demand for a pretty long time. DR. SUDHIR ROY (Burdwan): I wel- But our demand has been rejected. Now, comethe Bill. But Ithink, this Bill should have they say that the Nepalis are not being been brought lorlg ago. 15 years have treated well. In fact, they are hunting with the passed when the original Act was passed, hunter and running with the hare. On the one but the Central Government has done pre- hand, they say that Nepali should not be cious little for the development of other lan- included in the Eighth Schedule, on the other guages. They only spend hundreds of crores hand, they say that justice has not beon for the propagation and development of done to the Nepalis. Therefore. I would ra· Hindi because often they pretend that only quest the Central Government to consider Hindi is the national language. In 1his way, once again the case of Nepali so that it may they forget that India is a unity in diversity be included in the Eighth Schedule. and that the Government should also spend for the development and enrichment of lan- [ Translation] guages other than Hindi. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDEA JAIN We find that there are seven Hindi (Sarmar): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, , support States. They spend for the development and the Authorised Translations (Central Laws) promotion of Hindi. The Government of India Amendment Bill, 1988 whi~h has been also spends crores of rupees for the promo- moved in th·e House. i appreciate the Central tionof Hindi. But what'about other languages Government for its realising the fetilings of 571 Replacing & FEBRUARY 23, 1988 LaWS) Amar.. b' ~ Cflntrlll BIN

ISh. Virdhi Chandt~r Jain] as well as session courts will have to accord the people of the whole country and taking recogn&ion to them. It is only after that that a this .revolutionary step. There are 14 Ian .. new situation towards Hindi could be devel- "usgs. in the Eighth Schedule of the oped in our country. It will be highly com- ' Constitution of India and this Bill will enable mendable when a breakthrough is achieved the Government to get the authorised texts in this direction. By promoting Hindi, the of the Central laws prepared in all these regional languages will enjoy due respect languages. The Central Government will legally and otherwise, which will strengthen have to gear up its machinery and also the spirit of national unity and make the employ highly capable personnel for this nation strong. Just now my colleague was purpose. Even now the laws are enacted in pleading for including Nepali Language in English and thereafter they are translated the Eighth Schedule. Similarly, I also de- into Hindi. But henceforth the translated mand that Rajasthani language be included version will be treated as an authorised text. in the aforesaid schedule. The terminology The language used in Hindi translation is of the Rajasthani language is very old and very difficult to understand as it is Sanskri- vast. It is more exhaustive than Hindi. It will tised Hindi. I am myseH a lawyer and know be no exaggeration if it is said that the source both Hindi and English. Even then I have to of Gujarati language lies in Rajasthani lan- go through the English version, because I guage. Most of the words of Rajasthani find it difficult to get the idea in Hindi. As language are found in Gujarati language. such, while taking steps in this direction Rajasthani language is replete with words of efforts should also be made to simplify all the heroism and devotion. it cannot be com- languages. Only such competent persons pared with any other literature. The Govern- should be engaged to render the translation ment should see as to which of the lan- from English who may use simple language. guages POSSASS rich literature and are ex- Otherwise the laws translated in other re- haustive. Taking these aspects in view, gional languages will be as incomprehen- Government should consider inclusion of ~ib'e as they are in Hindi. The people of this Rajasthani language :n the Eighth Schedule country should come to know about this of the Constitution seriously. There cannot legislation and for that purpose it should be be two opinions that promotion and propa- drafted in a simple language. Not only that, 93tion of regional languages will gives a all the laws enacted by the Parliament or the boost to the spirit of national unity and State Legislatures should be so simple that strengthen national integration. In this way everybody could understand them. The laws the people can understand the regional lan- so enacted should not create any confusion guages very easily. Numerous Hindi Advi w and they should not be incomprehensible to sory Committees have been constituted in the people. 1t is not proper that the people the Lok Sabha and different Ministries. The should go to the advocates for the interpre- hone Members make valuable suggestions tation of the laws and spend lakhs of rupees in these Committees for the progressive use due to the laws being incomperhensibl~. of Hindi. But these suggestions bear no fruit This aspect must be !POked into. Steps as no action is taken on these recommenda- should be taken to ensure that the lan- tions. No radicaf change is seen in the post guages are simplified and laws made offices, department of communication or any Simple. When authorised texts are made of the Ministries in pursuance of the recom- and laws enacted in the languages included mendations made by the Hindi Advisory in the Eighth Schedule, quotation in any of Committees attached to their respective these languages could be given in the Ministries so that there could be more use of courts. The High Courts and the lower courts Hindi. It is, therefore, necessary that recom- 573 Auth. Translation PHAlGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA') Lata} An:H1t. b 14 Central sm menc:tations of the Hindi Advisory Commit- which are common laws and which are vary tees attached to various ministries and frequently used. For example, the Criminal departments are implemented seriously. It is Procedure Code and the Civil Procedure only then that the purpose of constituting Code. They are used to a large extent. The these committees will be served. With the58 han. Minister is quite aware that nowadays words, I support- this Bill which has since most of the langu,ages used in the-courts are been presented in the House. local languages. What happens is, the advo- cates have the English version, they do not [English] have the Hindi version or regional language version. And they will argue on the basis of SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER (Sangalor. English version only. So, I would uige the South): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I welcome Government to see one thing. This is the this Bill. I heartily congratulate Mr. Panigrahi supreme legislature of our land. People for piloting this Bill. This was long overdue. It must know what we are doing here. I know is in the right direction. It helps the national papers are there and they report the pro- integration. ceedings. But papers cannot reach every place immediately. At many places in the Sir, in this connection, I would like to remote villages, it reaches after many days. make a few comments. Sir. I urge upon the Of course, we are glad that there is the Centre that they should look upon all the national telecast of Hindi and English ver- regional languages which are entered in the sions of parliamentary proceedings. I take Eighth Schedule as equal. For- the develop- this opportunity to urge the hon. Member ment of. those languages they should con- Minister to take it up with the Information & sider it as the responsibility of the Centre Broadcasting Ministry that the parliamentary because what is happening now is, they are news or today's proceedings in Parliament leaving to the States to develop the regional are broadcast. telecast in the regional lan- languages. No doubt States also have the guages also. That is very necessary. Our same responsibility. but at the same time. people must know it because they are our Centre's responsibility cannot be ignored. master. It is they who send us herG. They You know. the funds of the States are very must know what we are doing hera. I request much limited. So, I would urge upon the the Minister to see that it is done. Government that just as we are apending on the development of Hindi, we should also So far as this particular amendment is see that certain amounts are earmarked for concerned, it should not merely remain on the development of regional languages. For paper. Government should not ba content whose sake we enact laws? h is for the sake with a few notifications. That is not important. of the people and nearly most of them are Everything. whatever is done in English ignorant and most of the people in the States must be translated into Hindi and other re- know only regional languages. For Whose gional languages and there should be a sake we enact laws? It is for the sake of the separate Directorate for that. a separate people and nearly most of them are ignorant office for that. You must see to it that they are and most of the people in the States know translated into Hindi and other regional only regional languages. So, it is absolutely languages. So far as this Bilt is concerned, necessary that there should be translation. I though it looks very simple. I consider this is would like to ask the han. Minister what steps the most far-reaching and progressive Bill. they are going to take to S88 that aH the The only thing is. it depend upon how the Central laws are translated into regional Go/.rnment of India is going to implement it. laws. They should have thill programma. At least priority must be given to such laws wah these words, , support t~ BiR. 575 Replacing & FEBRUAHY ~~, '~8~ Lawsl AnlUL ;), 0 CsntraJ Bill

PROF. S.AIFUDDIN SOZ (SA· tongues for the people of respective areas. RAMULLA): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir. as Mr. So, some of the luminaries in the field of Iyer has said. it is a very good and progres- literature or in the field of politics, they cre- sive measure and I wholeheartedly support ated a lot of confusion in this oountry. There- this Bill. fore, national languages in this country, apart from Hindi, have not received a better In fact, Mr. Panigrahi's major amend- deal. That is my complaint. But is is not ment ,is. instead of "authorised translation", against Hindi. We have accepted Hindi as he wants the expression "authoritative text". Rashtrabasha. But we expect from the It is a very good expression. But I feel this Bill Government of India the promotion of all deserves a lot of attention by the House and other languages. Tamil is a national lan- I am pained to see thin attendance here. We guage. Telegu is a national language. Ka- have to create an impression with our col- shmiri is a national language. Punjabi is a leagues that the Bill which has been piloted national language. So, when you call those by the Minister is a very important Bill and languages as regional languages, you are- has far-reaching consequences. Therefore, actually I should not usa the word Idefraud- we expected a very lively debate here. ing the Constitution' - showing disrespect to the Constitution. Pick up the Constitution Now, coming to the idea that I have to of India in hand and see what the Eighth express on this Bill, I request the hon. Schedule indicates. Therefore, we accept Member to seriously think about the conse- Hindi as Rashtrabasha and as far as pos- quences of this measure and while replying sible, we try to speak even though I do not to the debate, he must give an assurance- know Hind; I do not know how to write but I only a couple of people will speak on this speak Hindi and I love Hindi. I can share my Bin-that he must readily act upon the sug- experience of Hindi with you because the gestions that we are making. We say that it kind of prose that is being produced in Hindi is a good measure but I do not know whether has no parallel in other languages. The the hon. Minister has gone into the conse- Drama, Short-story. the Essays that are quences of this measure. ~t is a right meas- appearing in Hindi are of very high literary ure, in the right direction but the implications value. But you cannot turn a deaf ear to the are not visible in this Bill. For instance, I raise demands that the people of other languages the question of promotion of Hindi and pro- . put forth before the Government. That has motion of other languages. It is a misnomer happened. For instance, I told you why and to call these languages as regional lan- the kind of Hindi that is purposely spoken in guages. I reject this term because you are this country. I heard the President's Ad- going against the very spirit of the dress, the Hindi Translation and I could Constitution. In the 8th Schedule of the understand some of it. But Ifound on my right Constitution, we have 14 languages and all and on my left Members of Parliament. those languages were called national lan- people of this country, asking me what is that guages, not one of them was called a re- word, what is this word. Mahatma Gandhi gional language. The Constitution of India wanted you to implore of all the politicians of calls all those languages as national lan- this country to call it Hindi as far as you are guages. All people belong to this nation, concerned. But for the people in India or for whatever may be their statehood. Therefore, the world you sh~uld call it Hindustani which this whole country expects a similar treat- is understandable. He never liked the ideaof ment to all the languages and all those Hindi and in an area of confrontation. languages ara 'lationa' languages spoken But Hindustani is a language which is spo- by Indians. All those languages are mother- ken and understood in every part of India. 577 Auth. Trans/ation PHALGUNA 4,1909 (SAKA) Laws) Arndt. 5"8 Central BIR

But in the Radio and the Television and in the Hindi; they refusato understand In Hindi and offices, you use Hindi which we do not they take assistance of English language. understand. With the same oountry you w~nt And you spend money like anything. My us to be blind; you want us to be mute people understanding is that SIX crores of rupees and only simply on-lookers. Why don't you are spent for promotion of Hindi and nearly simplify it? Your books in Hindi-I can assure eight to nine crores of rupees are available you-are lying useJess in the library. Com- for the promotion of all other national lan- monman understands Hindi which ts com- guages which is unjust. I don't think you are monly used by the masses. But you are promoting unity of India through this. There trying to make it Sanskritised, complicated are languages whjch are receiving a totally and the Uruduwallas are trying to make raw deal. For instance, Kashmiri which does Urudu Persianised and we will reject that. not get any share. It is a very sensitive You are complicating the situation by San- question. Ten years ago, one crore of rupees skritising Hindi and therefore forcing us to was allotted for translation of the say: this is not the kind of Hindi that we want. Constitution of India and the Central Laws This is not the kind of Hindi that the into Kashmiri. That was not released. It has Constitution of India gave us. You speak and never received a penny. The Urdu has re- write the kind of Hindi which we shall accept ceived a raw deal. I am telling you that of wholeheartedly. In another area, there is crores, you are trying ,to promote Telegu, discrimination against the other national Tamil, , Punjabi, ,Urdu and so languages. I will never use the term ·regional many languages. This is totally unjust. languages'. When we come to the debate on Thereby you cannot serve the purpose. This Education, I will caution the Minister of is a good measure. But you are not serving Education at that time because you have the purpose of even Hindi because other created confusion by calling regional lan- people who have got respect for their guage. All other languages have received a mother-tounge, you are promoting a kind of raw-deal. That is not going to help. We must situation whereby even though they fove rise above party-politics for the sake of the Hindi, they respect Hindi as Rashtra greatness of this country. After all, this is a Bhasha, they have" a feeling ... very important matter. On this matter de- pends the unity and integrity of India. All of us ( Interruptions) have to commit ourselves. We have to commit ourselves to the unity and integrity of MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Try to wind the nation. It is, therefore, I say that we up. cannot have discrimination; we cannot con- tinue an atmosphere of discrimination PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: I have to against the promotion of other languages. In continue for two to three minutes. I am trying one area, I told you, this has happened. For to wind up or tomorrow I will speak. It is my instances, this must be known to Mr. Pani- subject. That would be better. I will give you grahiji. I understand that you allot more than a story of what happened in Russia and As. 6 crores for the promotion of Hindi. Pakistan.

( Interruptions) 18.00 hr•• MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You can You promote a kind of Hindi which not continue tomorrow. even Babus, who have to run this admini- stration, understand. They refuse to write in ...... 579 B.A.(;. ,1t1/JVt',., 580

18.02 hr•• Business Advisory Committee.

BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITIEE MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Hause stands adjourned to meet at 11.00 A.M. [English] tomorrow.

Forty-Eighth Report 18.03 hrs. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AF- The Lok Sabha then adjourned till eleven FAIRS (SHRIMATI SHEILA OIKSHIT): I beg of the Clock on Wednesday, February 24, to present the forty-eighth Report of the 198BIPhalguna 5, 1909 (Saka)

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