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House of Commons Debates CANADA House of Commons Debates VOLUME 140 Ï NUMBER 099 Ï 1st SESSION Ï 38th PARLIAMENT OFFICIAL REPORT (HANSARD) Monday, May 16, 2005 Speaker: The Honourable Peter Milliken CONTENTS (Table of Contents appears at back of this issue.) All parliamentary publications are available on the ``Parliamentary Internet Parlementaire´´ at the following address: http://www.parl.gc.ca 5979 HOUSE OF COMMONS Monday, May 16, 2005 The House met at 11 a.m. Opposition to allot a day for the discussion of such a motion. In allotting a day for this purpose the Government is entitled to have regard to the exigencies of its own business, but a reasonably early day is invariably found. This convention is founded on the recognized position of the Opposition as a potential Government, which guarantees the legitimacy of such an interruption of the normal course of business. Prayers For its part, the Government has everything to gain by meeting such a direct challenge to its authority at the earliest possible moment. Ï (1100) We regret that after the issue of confidence became a question, that [English] it will take nine days to resolve it. This is not in keeping with our conventions and it is not at all respectful to our system of BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE government. Hon. Tony Valeri (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. After I would note in closing that it has now been some six weeks since consultation with all parties, I believe you would find unanimous the official opposition has had an allotted supply day, five weeks consent to adopt the following unanimously without debate or since the Bloc Québécois had its last day and that is out of the amendment. It is the same motion I was looking to move last week ordinary to say the least, especially during a time when the on three different occasions. In the spirit of cooperation and to government's confidence in this place is called into question. enhance the civility, certainly in this House, I think all parties now Mr. Loyola Hearn (St. John's South—Mount Pearl, CPC): Mr. have come to an understanding and agreement. I move: Speaker, I rise on a different point of order. On Friday unanimous Ï (1105) consent was refused by the Liberals for a motion to divide Bill C-43 That, notwithstanding any Standing Order or usual practice, the second reading that would have ensured speedy passage of the Atlantic accord. I stages of Bill C-43, an act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in hope the government has reconsidered. Therefore, I seek consent for Parliament on February 23, and Bill C-48, an act to authorize the Minister of Finance to make certain payments, shall be disposed of as follows: the following motion: 1. Any division thereon requested before the expiry of the time for consideration That Bill C-43, an act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in of government orders on Thursday, May 19, shall be deferred to that time; Parliament on February 23 be divided into two bills: Bill C-43A an act to provide payments to provinces and territories and implement the Canada-Newfoundland and 2. At the expiry of the time for consideration of government orders on Thursday, Labrador arrangement and the Canada-Nova Scotia arrangement; and Bill C-43B an May 19, all questions necessary for the disposal of the second reading stage of (1) act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February Bill C-43 and (2) Bill C-48 shall be put and decided forthwith and successively, 23; without further debate, amendment or deferral. That Bill C-43A be composed of parts 12, the Canada-Newfoundland and The Speaker: Does the hon. government House leader have the Labrador arrangement and the Canada-Nova Scotia arrangement, and 24, payments unanimous consent of the House to propose the motion? to certain provinces and territories; Some hon. members: Agreed. That Bill C-43B be composed of all the remaining parts of Bill C-43; That the House order the printing of Bill C-43A and Bill C-43B and that Bill The Speaker: The House has heard the terms of the motion. Is it C-43A and Bill C-43B be immediately placed on the Order Paper for consideration the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? of the House at second reading and referral to the Standing Committee on Finance; and Some hon. members: Agreed. That the law clerk and parliamentary counsel be authorized to make such (Motion agreed to) technical changes or corrections that may be necessary to give effect to this motion. Mr. Jay Hill (Prince George—Peace River, CPC): Mr. Speaker, while my party has agreed to the motion from the Leader of the The Prime Minister said that the quickest way to pass this is Government in the House of Commons, I would like to point out that through the budget and the onus was on the opposition. The onus the respectful course of action would have been for the government now is with the government. to allot a day to the official opposition after it lost the vote last The Speaker: Does the hon. member have the unanimous consent Tuesday. I would like to refer the Speaker and the government House of the House to propose this motion? leader to pages 280 and 281 of Erskine May, 22nd edition: From time to time the Opposition put down a motion on the paper expressing lack Some hon. members: Agreed. of confidence in the Government—a 'vote of censure' as it is called. By established convention the Government always accedes to the demand from the Leader of the Some hon. members: No. 5980 COMMONS DEBATES May 16, 2005 Private Members' Business Ï (1110) Mr. Loyola Hearn: Mr. Speaker, on this point of order. Hon. Tony Valeri: Mr. Speaker, on the same issue, if you can recall, the order to set the budget vote was accepted for Thursday at The Speaker: I have indicated there is not a point of order. the end of government orders. I know the hon. member will have the opportunity to support that budget, which includes the Atlantic Mr. Loyola Hearn: Mr. Speaker, it is a different point of order. accord. I know the hon. member is under some pressure at home to support that budget and I think he should. The Atlantic accord is The Speaker: On a different point of order, the hon. member for there and it would ensure speedy passage of the Atlantic accord. St. John's South—Mount Pearl. The Speaker: I do not see any point of order. We had the point of Mr. Loyola Hearn: Mr. Speaker, it is common in this House that order to put the motion. The member got his motion put, with a we not provide information which is incorrect. The member for speech. The government House leader on the guise of a point of Humber—St. Barbe—Baie Verte made— order has responded. The Speaker: This is clearly debate. I invite hon. members to get Hon. Gerry Byrne: A point of order, Mr. Speaker. on with the debate after private members' hour is over. We will be on The Speaker: I hope this is a different one. Bill C-48, I understand, which is the bill the hon. member wants to divide. I would suggest he get into a lively debate one hour from Hon. Gerry Byrne (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of now. Intergovernmental Affairs, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, perhaps we can arrange some time for the hon. member to sit with the desk officers so that we can review normal parliamentary procedure. Of course legislation appearing before this House must go through PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS first reading, second reading, committee, report stage, third reading, on to the other House and then for final royal assent. [English] What the hon. member is misconstruing to this House is the fact TAIWAN AFFAIRS ACT that his partners, in their new-found alliance with the Bloc Québécois, refuse to support the Atlantic accord and that is not Mr. Jim Abbott (Kootenay—Columbia, CPC) moved that Bill being made clear. C-357, an act to provide for an improved framework for economic, The Speaker: We are getting into a debate. trade, cultural and other initiatives between the people of Canada and the people of Taiwan, be read the second time and referred to a [Translation] committee. Mr. Michel Gauthier (Roberval—Lac-Saint-Jean, BQ): Mr. Speaker, we have all agreed to do everything in our power to ensure He said: Mr. Speaker, Bill C-357 is a private member's bill tabled that the House functions properly. I hope that the message also by myself as member of Parliament for Kootenay—Columbia. There reached the Liberal side, so that we can speak freely here. are members from all parties of the House who support this bill in principle and I expect that if it comes to a vote at second reading the I just wanted to point out that the motion put forward is rather bill will pass and be forwarded to committee for consideration. interesting. I believe that, under our standing orders, it is very likely that we would be able to split a bill. This would ensure that, In 1970, when Canada recognized the People's Republic of China whatever happens following Thursday's confidence vote, the people as the sole legitimate government of China and terminated its of Newfoundland and Labrador and certain provinces and territories diplomatic relations with Taiwan, Canada only took note of and can enjoy the proposed benefits.
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