The Reminiscences of Mr. Fred L. Black
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The Reminiscences of Mr. Fred L. Black From the Owen W. Bombard interviews series, 1951-1961 Accession 65 Interview conducted: March 1951 Transcript digitized by staff of Benson Ford Research Center: November 2011 OCR: Please note that this file has been made searchable through the use of optical character recognition. However, the quality of the original materials is such that full text searching is only moderately reliable. Copyright: Copyright has been transferred to The Henry Ford by the donor, and is made available through a “Creative Commons License BY-NC-ND,” indicating that you may make certain noncommercial uses of this material, provided that you give attribution to The Henry Ford without further adaption or modification. 20900 Oakwood Boulevard · Dearborn, MI 48124-5029 USA [email protected] · www.thehenryford.org \ f m LIFE WITH FOKD Interview with Mr. Fred L. Black by Mr. Keith Clark, representing Ford Archives, on March 10, 1951 at Mr. Black's residence, Ij831 Old Orchard Trail, Orchard Lake, Michigan. BLACK INTERVIEW -- March 10, 1951 p. 1 Black's birthdate and place, schooling, employment E. G. Pipp, editor of Detroit News Ford's interest in starting newspaper p. 2 Ford drops idea of starting newspaper during WW I (1917) and expresses renewed interest in 1918. Second hand press purchased from Franklin Press pg. 3 Black accompanies Mr. Pipp to see Ford Meet at Henry Ford & Son p. 4 Ford offers job running business end of paper to black p. 5 Mentions Ford's purchase of Dearborn Independent from Woodruff, who was later a staff member Ford organizes Dearborn Publishing Co. p. 6 Staff mentioned: Ben R. Donaldson Walter Blanchard January 11, 1920 -- 1st copy of Dearborn Independent p. 7 - 8 Background leading to purchase of newspaper. Ford's $5 day and ensuing criticism, peace advertise mines, attacks by Tribune, Peace Ship ridiculed, Ford's wish to express ideas, Senate campaign p. 8 - 9 Mt. Clemens News agency est. 'd 1919 to send stories favoring Ford to newspapers p. 10, 12, 13 Trial mentioned (libel suit against Chicago Tribune) p. 10 Ford's "History is bunk" statement discussed mention of Ford's wish to establish museum showing real history of United States. p. 1 3 Black finds Finis Bates, author of The Escape & Suicide of John Wilkes Booth, for Ford. C Black researches Lincoln's assassination BLACK INTERVIEW -- March 10, 1951 (2) p. 14 Ford's fascination with American history Mentions Edison Institute, Village, Museum as Ford's showing real american history. p. 15 Ford tells Black to build wireless Mentions Charlie Voorhess, head of Henry Ford & Son Power Plant; Ed Chambers p. 16-17 Black's attempt to build wireless p. 17 Ford broadcasting station WW I Mentions Donaldson one of announcers p. 17 - 18 Ford's yachet, Siala, outfitted with wireless p. 19 Discusses Ford's curiosity p. 20 D. T. & I. purchased by Ford, 1921 Mentions Dale Roeder, an engineer p. 21 Ford's page in newspaper mentioned Growth of circulation Walter Btemchard mentioned p. 22 Mentions Ben Donaldson, valuable staff member Mentions Pierce Cummings p. 2 3 Ford and Hamlin Garland recited from McGuffey Readers, p. 24 Mr. Liebold mentioned Pipp resignation over Jewish articles p. 25 J. J. O'Neill, fine writer and heavy drinker Mt. Clemens News Bureau became Independent News Bureau p. 25-26 Ford's views on drinking discussed p. 26 Discussion of Ford's habit of spending great deal of time on particular projects. BLACK INTERVIEW -- March 10, 1951 (3) p. 27 Plans for building new engineering laboratory building p. 28 Ford's view of League of Nations mentioned p. 29-31 Movement to nominate Ford for President p. 31 Wilson's asking Ford to run for Senate p. 32-33 Muscel Shoals deal ' p. 34 John Wilkes Booth research Carl Sandburg mentioned p. 35-38 Black's Booth research Bates' history exposed as fraud p. 39 Ford's continuing interest in Lincoln, Wm. Holmes McGuffey and Thomas A. Edison discussed p. 40 Reproduction of McGuffey's desk for Museum p. 41 Piece of tree McGuffey planted given to Ford p. 42 Ford's collection of McGuffey Readers McGuffey Societies meeting at Edison Institute p. 43 MISSING p. 44 Edison's encouragement of Ford p. 45-46 Gasoline engine experiments First homemade engine should be at Museum p. 47-48 Ford has luncheon for Edison p. 48 Edison liked dirty stories p. 48-49 Ford tells dirty story to emphasize point, p. 50-52 D. T. & I. Railroad p. 5 3 Modern construction of Engineering Lab p. 54 Black as secretary-treasurer of Edison Institute and Greenfield Village BRCK INTERVIEW -- March 10, 1951 (4) p. 54 Hamlin Garland's visit to Dearborn p. 55 Ford takes Garland over present location of Museum k Village l^ Ford's search for dish design from when he was 12 p. 56 ^Ford's efforts to collect things from boyhood -- furniture, farm. ' machinery Ford's interest in Wayside Inn p. 57 Ford's efforts to reconstruct Wayside Inn Ford's habit of going to Museum or Village when troubled p. 58 Ford's interest in early American history discussed p. 59 Ford's purchase of antiques Garland's books on his early boyhood impressed Ford p. 60 Ford began buying antiques through agents Mr. Taylor -- antique dealer who joined staff of Edison Institute Charles Newton mentioned p. 60-61 Clarification of names of Edison Institute, Museum & Greenfield Village ment p. 62-63 Scotch Settle School among first buildings in Village Ford's ideas about running Scotch Settlement School p. 6 3 McGuffey School constructed Various schools in the Village discussed Benjamin Lovett supervised Scotch Settlement School p. 64-65 Dedication ceremony for Edison Institute, October 21, 1929 President & Mrs. Hoover amont these invited p. 65 Edison's surprise at restoration of Menlo Park buildings in Village described. BLACK INTERVIEW -- March 10, 1951 (5) p. 66-67 Ford supervised details of Village and Museum development Restoration of Wright Buildings discussed, p. 67 Purchase of Clinton Inn p. 68 Edsel & Clara's participation in developing Village Cotswold Cottage mentioned p. 69 Contrast Village &: Williamsburg p. 70 Ford's views on American industry as evolving from past Criticism didn't bother Ford p. 71 Design of Museum and Institute planned Ford's view of adding future items to collection discussed p. 72 Limitations of space in Museum & Village p. 7 3-74 Edsel's interest in Museum & Village project Karl Guthe's idea that graduate students form supplementary staff not followed p. 74-75 Edsel voiced concern re authentication and choices. p. 76 Public relations program inconsistent p. 77 1940 Am, Soc. of Museum meeting co-hosted by E. I. p. 78 Financing E. I. discussed p. 78-79 Architects experienced difficulty laying out Museum. p. 79 Music Gallery Early American silver collection Ford's interest in transportation, furniture, and items pertinent to Edison, Lincoln or McGuffey r p. 80 Ford's views on Hearst collection Edsel's purchases from Tiffany's and emphasis on authenticity p. 81 Edsel and art discussed BLACK INTERVIEW -- March 10, 1951 (6) p. 82 Edsel's desire to improve museum discussed p. 83-95 Difference between Henry Ford & Edsel's philosophies delineated. Examples cited to demonstrate their approaches to various situations and decision-making. Conflicts between them also described. p- 93 Work on V-8 in Ft. Myer lab p- 96-97 Ford ran schools based on reading, writing and arithmetic as fundamental. Ford kept involved with School's ciriculum. • p. 97-8 Student body selected arbitrarily p- 99-100 Old-fashioned dances described p- 101-107 Visit of Prince of Monaco p- 107-108 Prince of Rumania's visit p- 109 Prince of Wales and Crown Prince of Sweden visit Ford's respect for heads of nations p. 110 Ford's tendency to lose self in Village & Museum p. Ill Discussion of Ford's unselfconsciousness with royalty p. 112-113 Henry Wallace's visit to Dearborn p. 114-116 Edsel Ford, Diego Rivera and murals p. 116-118 Discussion Museum's financial plight and attempts to raise money p. 118 Organization of the People's Museum Asspc. p. 119 George Pierrot takes over publicity for Museum Committee of preachers view Rivera murals at Pierrot's request p. 120 Meetings on Rivera murals p. 121 World Adventure Series begun Peoples Museum Assoc. membership 1. 121-122 Criticisms of Rivera mural project. BLACK INTERVIEW -- March 10, 1951 (7) gk p. 123-125 Price-cutting at FMC \ p. 126 Ford's views on committees | p. 127-130 Sorensen & FMC politics p. 130-134 Liebold and FMC politics p. 135-141 Harry Bennett and FMC politics^J p. 137 Cameron as Ford's interpreter Theodore Lenine and Peace Ship p. 138 MISSING p. 139-151 Cameron as spokesman for Ford p. 152-159 Henry Ford and press relations p. 1 60 Martha Mary Chapel mentioned in connection with Cameron's religious writing W p. 161-2 Ford's views on religion and reincarnation discussed p. 163-67 MISSING BLACK INTERVIEW -- June 2, 1952 p. 168 Ford News p. 169 Ford's spreading interests, starting in 1914 p. 170 Ford News p. 170-177 Henry Ford and radio s p. 178-185 FMC advertising p. 186 Model A p. 187 Edison's Village, Menlo Park, Florida lab was working place of small group of engineers on V-8 project. c_ p. 188 Ford aviation p. 189-191 Advertising policy p. 193-198 Chicago's World Fair BLACK INTERVIEW -- №£ June 2, 1952 ^/. p. 196 Ford's barn sent to Chicago's World Fair p.