Oral History Interview with Hon. Clair W. Burgener
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California State Archives State Government Oral History Program Oral History Interview with HON. CLAIR W. BURGENER U.S. House of Representatives, 1973 - 1983 California State Senate, 1967 - 1973 California State Assembly, 1963 - 1967 January 15, March 9, and May 25, 1990 Rancho Santa Fe, California By Phillip L. Gianos California State University, Fullerton A HISTORY OF REAPPORTIONMENT IN CALIFORNIA RESTRICTIONS ON THIS INTERVIEW None LITERARY RIGHTS AND QUOTATION This manuscript is hereby made available for research purposes only. No part of the manuscript may be quoted for publication without the written permission of the California State Archivist or the Oral History Program, History Department, California State University, Fullerton. Requests for permission to quote for publication should be addressed to: California State Archives 1020 0 Street, Room 130 Sacramento, CA 95814 or Oral History Program History Department California State University, Fullerton Fullerton, CA 92634 The request should include identification of the specific passages and identification of the user. It is recommended that this Oral history be cited as follows: Congressman Clair W. Burgener, Oral History Interview, Conducted 1990 by Phillip L. Gianos, Oral History Program, History Department, California State University, Fullerton, for the California State Archives State Government Oral History Program. Information (916) 445-4293 California State Archives March Fong Eu Document Restoration (916) 445-4293 10200 Street, Room 130 Exhibit Hall (916) 445-0748 Secretary of State Legislative Bill Service (916) 445-2832 Sacramento, CA 95814 (prior years) PREFACE On September 25, 1985, Governor George Deukmejian signed into law A.B. 2104 (Chapter 965 of the Statues of 1985). This legislation established, under the administration of the California State Archives, a State Government Oral History Program "to provide through the use of oral history a continuing documentation of state policy development as reflected in California's legislative and executive history." The following interview is one of a series of oral histories undertaken for inclusion in the state program. These interviews offer insights into the actual workings of both the legislative and executive processes and policy mechanisms. They also offer an increased understanding of the men and women who create legislation and implement state policy. Further, they provide an overview of issue development in California state government and of how both the legislative and executive branches of government deal with issues and problems facing the state. Interviewees are chosen primarily on the basis of their contributions to and influence on the policy process of the state of California. They include members of the legislative and executive branches of the state government as well as legislative staff, advocates, members of the media, and other people who played significant roles in specific issue areas of major and continuing importance to California. By authorizing the California State Archives to work cooperatively with oral history units at California colleges and universities to conduct interviews, this program is structured to take advantage of the resources and expertise in oral history available through California's several institutionally based programs. Participating as cooperating institutions in the State Government Oral History Program are: Oral History Program History Department California State University, Fullerton Oral History Program Center for California Studies California State University, Sacramento Oral History Program Claremont Graduate School Regional Oral History Office The Bancroft Library University of California, Berkeley Oral History Program University of California, Los Angeles The establishment of the California State Archives State Government Oral History Program marks one of the most significant commitments made by any state toward the preservation and documentation of its governmental history. It supplements the often fragmentary historical written record by adding an organized primary source, enriching the historical information available on given topics and allowing for more thorough historical analysis. As such, the program, through the preservation and publication of interviews such as the one which follows, will be of lasting value to current and future generations of scholars, citizens, and leaders. John F. Bums State Archivist July 27, 1988 This interview is printed on acid-free paper. TABLE OF CONTENTS INTERVIEW HISTORY .................................. .. i BIOGRAPHICAL SUMMARY iii SESSION 1, January 15, 1990 [Tape 1, Side.A]. ....................................... .. 1 Family background and education--Early political influences and activities- Elected to San Diego County Republican Central Committee--Election to San Diego City Council--Development of San Diego and Mission Bay--Unsuccessful campaign for California State Legislature in 1956--Assembly campaign of 1962--Seventy-sixth Assembly District--Political orientation. [Tape 1, Side B] ...................................... .. 21 Campaign for state assembly in 1962--Work for mentally retarded children- Criticisms of Jesse Unruh--Experience as freshman assemblyman--Assembly committee assignments--Senate committee assignments--Senate lobbyists- Relationship with Jesse Unruh--Dealings with Democrats--Recollections of Edmund G. Brown, Sr.--ElectioR to California State Senate--Family life in Sacramento--Ronald Reagan's gubernatorial cabinet--Comparison of Ronald Reagan and George Deukmejian--William McCandless's proposed nomination to the state Board of Education--Burgener's philosophy of government. [Tape 2, Side A] ...................................... .. 42 Assembly committee assignments--Election to state senate--Unruh's infamous lockup of Republicans in 1963--Burgener's transition from assembly to senate- 1966 senate campaign--State officials' meeting places and informal networks- Rumford Fair Housing Bill--Governmental Efficiency Committee--Comparison of California assembly and senate--Jesse Unruh and the senate--Ronald Reagan and Jesse Unruh--Legislative interests--Communication with constituents- Legislative committees. [Tape 2, Side B] ...................................... .. 73 Legislative process and procedures--Legislation concerning gifted children. SESSION 2, March 9, 1990 [Tape 3, Side A] ...................................... .. 81 Senatorial campaign of 1966--Pete Wilson's political aspirations--1966 election and reapportionment--Lobbyists' influence on the senate--Ouster of Hugh Bums as senate president pro tem--Committee assignments in U.S. Senate--Minority party in Congress--Comparison of federal and state government committees- Welfare legislation--Ronald Reagan's presidential administration--Political climate of the 1950s--State legislation--Burgener's ecological accomplishments as congressman--Reapportionment--1974 congressional campaign--Forty-third Congressional District. Tape 3, Side B] 109 Congressional campaign of 1972--Gubernatorial appointments to Senate--1974 congressional campaign--Richard M. Nixon's supporters and critics--1976 and 1978 congressional campaigns--Proposition 13--1980 congressional campaign and the Ku-Klux Klan--Forty-third Congressional District successors- Relationship with the press--Contact with constituents--Congressional work schedule--District offices--Major district legislative issues--Procedure for military academy appointments. SESSION 3, May 25, 1990 [Tape 4, Side A] 143 Transition from state to federal office--House committee assignments- Republican members Chowder and Marching Club--Reapportionment and redistricting--Democratic and Republican delegations--Comparison of Democrats and Republicans--House voting procedures--Republican conferences and Democratic caucuses--Comparison of House Speakers Carl Albert and Thomas O'Neill--Partisanship in the House--Presidentialliaisons-- Ronald Reagan's leadership style--George Deukmejian's leadership. [Tape 4, Side B] 174 House legislation--Imperial County water legislation--House committee assignments--Offshore oil drilling in Califomia--Comments on nuclear and coal power--Suggested term limits in Congress--Advice to novice politicians- Post-political employment and activities. INDEX OF NAMES 190 INTERVIEW HISTORY Interviewer/Editor Phillip L. Gianos Professor, Department of Political Science California State University, Fullerton B.A., San Diego State University (Political Science) Ph.D., University of California, Riverside Interview Time and Place January 15, 1990 Home of Clair W. Burgener, Rancho Santa Fe, California Session lasted approximately three hours March 9, 1990 Home of Clair W. Burgener, Rancho Santa Fe, California Session lasted approximately ninety minutes May 25, 1990 Home of Clair W. Burgener, Rancho Santa Fe, California Session lasted approximately ninety minutes Editing Phillip L. Gianos checked the verbatim manuscript of the interview against the original tapes, and did editing for punctuation, paragraphing, and spellings. In late summer of 1991, the edited transcript was forwarded to former Congressman Clair Burgener who carefully reviewed the transcript and returned in the winter of 1992. Additional editing and verification of proper names was performed by Debra Hansen and Shirley E. Stephenson. i Shirley E. Stephenson, Associate Director/Archivist Emeritus of the California State University, Fullerton, Oral History Program performed the final editing and proofreading of the