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Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs Second Session – Forty-First Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs Chairperson Mrs. Sarah Guillemard Constituency of Fort Richmond Vol. LXX No. 11 - 6 p.m., Tuesday, October 24, 2017 ISSN 1708-668X MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Forty-First Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ALLUM, James Fort Garry-Riverview NDP ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley NDP BINDLE, Kelly Thompson PC CLARKE, Eileen, Hon. Agassiz PC COX, Cathy, Hon. River East PC CULLEN, Cliff, Hon. Spruce Woods PC CURRY, Nic Kildonan PC DRIEDGER, Myrna, Hon. Charleswood PC EICHLER, Ralph, Hon. Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne Lac du Bonnet PC FIELDING, Scott, Hon. Kirkfield Park PC FLETCHER, Steven, Hon. Assiniboia Ind. FONTAINE, Nahanni St. Johns NDP FRIESEN, Cameron, Hon. Morden-Winkler PC GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin, Hon. Steinbach PC GRAYDON, Clifford Emerson PC GUILLEMARD, Sarah Fort Richmond PC HELWER, Reg Brandon West PC ISLEIFSON, Len Brandon East PC JOHNSON, Derek Interlake PC JOHNSTON, Scott St. James PC KINEW, Wab Fort Rouge NDP KLASSEN, Judy Kewatinook Lib. LAGASSÉ, Bob Dawson Trail PC LAGIMODIERE, Alan Selkirk PC LAMOUREUX, Cindy Burrows Lib. LATHLIN, Amanda The Pas NDP LINDSEY, Tom Flin Flon NDP MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Flor Logan NDP MARCELINO, Ted Tyndall Park NDP MARTIN, Shannon Morris PC MAYER, Colleen St. Vital PC MICHALESKI, Brad Dauphin PC MICKLEFIELD, Andrew Rossmere PC MORLEY-LECOMTE, Janice Seine River PC NESBITT, Greg Riding Mountain PC PALLISTER, Brian, Hon. Fort Whyte PC PEDERSEN, Blaine, Hon. Midland PC PIWNIUK, Doyle Arthur-Virden PC REYES, Jon St. Norbert PC SARAN, Mohinder The Maples Ind. SCHULER, Ron, Hon. St. Paul PC SELINGER, Greg St. Boniface NDP SMITH, Andrew Southdale PC SMITH, Bernadette Point Douglas NDP SMOOK, Dennis La Verendrye PC SQUIRES, Rochelle, Hon. Riel PC STEFANSON, Heather, Hon. Tuxedo PC SWAN, Andrew Minto NDP TEITSMA, James Radisson PC WHARTON, Jeff, Hon. Gimli PC WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WISHART, Ian, Hon. Portage la Prairie PC WOWCHUK, Rick Swan River PC YAKIMOSKI, Blair Transcona PC 327 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS Tuesday, October 24, 2017 TIME – 6 p.m. Ms. Michele Rogalsky, University of Manitoba Mr. Gord Delbridge, Canadian Union of Public LOCATION – Winnipeg, Manitoba Employees, Local 500 CHAIRPERSON – Mrs. Sarah Guillemard Mr. Terry Egan, Canadian Union of Public (Fort Richmond) Employees, Manitoba Mr. James Beddome, Green Party of Manitoba VICE-CHAIRPERSON – Mr. Shannon Martin Mr. Terry Wachniak, private citizen (Morris) Ms. M.J. Willard, private citizen ATTENDANCE – 11 QUORUM – 6 WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS: Members of the Committee present: Ardythe Basham, private citizen Hon. Messrs. Cullen, Friesen, Gerrard Robert G. Mears, private citizen Elizabeth Cameron, private citizen Mr. Allum, Mrs. Guillemard, Messrs. Helwer, Molly McCracken, private citizen Lindsey, Martin, Reyes, Smith, Mrs. Smith MATTERS UNDER CONSIDERATION: APPEARING: Bill 24 – The Red Tape Reduction and Mr. Wab Kinew, MLA for Fort Rouge Government Efficiency Act, 2017 Hon. Ralph Eichler, MLA for Lakeside PUBLIC PRESENTERS: * * * Mr. Glen Gratton and Ms. Tricia Schmalenberg Madam Chairperson: Good evening. Will the (by leave), Maple Leaf Foods Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs please Ms. Accalia Robertson, private citizen come to order. This meeting has been called to Mr. Sheldon Stott, private citizen consider–to continue consideration of Bill 24, The Ms. Glenda Whiteman, private citizen Red Tape Reduction and Government Efficiency Ms. Brittany Semeniuk, Winnipeg Humane Act, 2017. Society I would like to remind the committee that, if Ms. Gaile Whelan Enns, private citizen necessary, the Standing Committee on Legislative Ms. Margaret Rempel, private citizen Affairs will meet again on Monday, October 30th, Mr. Jerry Daniels, Southern Chiefs' 2017, at 6 p.m., to continue consideration of Bill 24. Organization Ms. Lyame Cypres, private citizen As per an agreement between the House leaders, Mr. Johannes Soer, private citizen a set number of presenters were scheduled to present Mr. Mike Sutherland, Peguis First Nation at these committee meetings, so tonight we will hear Mr. Pita Hoyt, private citizen from the remaining presenters registered to speak on Mr. Weldon Newton, private citizen Bill 24, and you have the list of those presenters Ms. Vicki Burns, private citizen before you. Ms. Ruth Pryzner, private citizen I would like to inform all in attendance of the Ms. Kristin Lauhn-Jensen, private citizen provisions in our rules regarding the hour of adjourn- Mr. Kelly Whelan-Enns, private citizen ment. A standing committee meeting to consider a Ms. Louise May, Aurora Farm bill must not sit past midnight to hear public Mr. Kristaps Balodis, private citizen presentations or to consider clause by clause of a bill, Ms. Marianne Cerilli, private citizen except by unanimous consent of the committee. Mr. Kevin Toyne, private citizen Ms. Debbie Wall, private citizen On the topic of determining the order of public Mr. Don Flaten, private citizen presentations, I will note that we have out-of-town Ms. Anne Lindsey, private citizen presenters in attendance marked with an asterisk on 328 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 24, 2017 the list. With this consideration in mind, then, in Thank you for your patience. what order does the committee wish to hear presentations? Bill 24–The Red Tape Reduction and Government Efficiency Act, 2017 Mr. James Allum (Fort Garry-Riverview): Out- of-town guests first, Madam Speaker–or, Chair. Madam Chairperson: We will now proceed with public presentations. Madam Chairperson: Is this agreed to by the committee? [Agreed] I will now call on Mr. Glen Gratton, Maple Leaf industries. Written submissions on Bill 24 from the following person has been received and distributed to Mr. Gratton, do you have any written materials the committee members: Ardythe Basham. Does the for the committee? committee agree to have these documents appear in the Hansard transcript of this meeting? [Agreed] Mr. Glen Gratton (Maple Leaf Foods): Yes. Before we proceed with the presentations, we do Madam Chairperson: Please proceed with your have a number of other items and points of infor- presentation. mation to consider. First of all, if there is anyone else in the audience who would like to make a Mr. Gratton: I'm Glen Gratton, vice-president of presentation this evening, please register with the Maple Leaf Foods, and I have here with me staff at the entrance of the room. Tricia Schmalenberg, professional engineer and environment manager, Maple Leaf Foods. And we Also, for the information of all presenters, while would like to do this as a dual presentation, if it's written versions of presentations are not required, if okay with the committee, in our 10-minute allotted you are going to accompany your presentation with time. written materials, we ask you provide 20 copies. If you need help with photocopying, please speak with Madam Chairperson: Okay, Mr. Gratton. We will our staff. have to seek leave of the committee to allow for a dual presentation. As well, in accordance to our rules, a time limit of 10 minutes has been allotted for presentations, Is it the will of the committee to have a dual with another five minutes allowed for questions from presentation? [Agreed] committee members. If a presenter is not in And could you please provide the name of your attendance when their name is called, they will be partner in this– dropped to the bottom of the list. If the presenter is not in attendance when their name is called a second Mr. Gratton: Tricia Schmalenberg. time, they will be removed from the presenters' list. Madam Chairperson: Okay, Tricia Schmalenberg. I would also like to remind the members of the public who are observing the committee meeting, Please proceed. please do not disturb the committee proceedings by Mr. Gratton: Maple Leaf Foods supports the applauding or commenting from the audience. proposed changes to The Environment Act in Bill 24 Taking photographs are not permitted from the and believes firmly that they will drive positive public gallery, as well as any audio or video change across the province. recordings. And please ensure that your phones are Maple Leaf Foods supports the proposed in silent mode. changes to The Environment Act in Bill 24 and Prior to proceeding with public presentations, I believes firmly that they will drive change across the would like to advise members of the public regarding province. At Maple Leaf Foods, we exist to raise the the process for speaking in committee. The good in food, and our vision is to be the most proceedings of our meetings are recorded in order to sustainable protein company on earth. We are provide a verbatim transcript. Each time someone actively addressing the more pressing diet-related wishes to speak, whether it be an MLA or a health issues we face as a society, including reducing presenter, I first have to say the person's name. This artificial ingredients and flavours, antibiotic use, is the signal for the Hansard recorder to turn on the sodium levels and continually advancing leadership mics and off. in food safety. October 24, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 329 Maple Leaf has a large presence in Manitoba. Sustainability is a far-reaching commitment at A major portion of Maple Leaf's assets and one third Maple Leaf and deeply entrenched in our business. of its national workforce is in Manitoba–roughly Our guiding principles are: advancing nutrition and 4,100 people: Brandon plant employs 2,000 people; health, valuing our people and communities, treating Winnipeg plant employs 1,400 people; and Maple animals well and eliminating waste. Leaf Agri-Farms, the hog production portion of the business, employs 740 people. Our vision is to be the most sustainable protein company on earth, based on the principles mentioned In 2015, Maple Leaf Brandon generated and an expansive sustainability agenda that has $993 million in sales to North American and export yielded advancements in nutrition, environmental markets, exporting to 40 different countries.
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