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REGULATORY REFORM TASK FORCES CHECK–IN JOINT HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON HEALTHCARE, BENEFITS, AND ADMINISTRATIVE RULES OF THE COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED FIFTEENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION OCTOBER 24, 2017 Serial No. 115–62 Printed for the use of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform ( Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.fdsys.gov http://oversight.house.gov U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE 30–293 PDF WASHINGTON : 2018 VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:45 Aug 15, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 H:\30293.TXT APRIL KING-6430 with DISTILLER COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM Trey Gowdy, South Carolina, Chairman John J. Duncan, Jr., Tennessee Elijah E. Cummings, Maryland, Ranking Darrell E. Issa, California Minority Member Jim Jordan, Ohio Carolyn B. Maloney, New York Mark Sanford, South Carolina Eleanor Holmes Norton, District of Columbia Justin Amash, Michigan Wm. Lacy Clay, Missouri Paul A. Gosar, Arizona Stephen F. Lynch, Massachusetts Scott DesJarlais, Tennessee Jim Cooper, Tennessee Blake Farenthold, Texas Gerald E. Connolly, Virginia Virginia Foxx, North Carolina Robin L. Kelly, Illinois Thomas Massie, Kentucky Brenda L. Lawrence, Michigan Mark Meadows, North Carolina Bonnie Watson Coleman, New Jersey Ron DeSantis, Florida Stacey E. Plaskett, Virgin Islands Dennis A. Ross, Florida Val Butler Demings, Florida Mark Walker, North Carolina Raja Krishnamoorthi, Illinois Rod Blum, Iowa Jamie Raskin, Maryland Jody B. Hice, Georgia Peter Welch, Vermont Steve Russell, Oklahoma Matt Cartwright, Pennsylvania Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin Mark DeSaulnier, California Will Hurd, Texas Jimmy Gomez,California Gary J. Palmer, Alabama James Comer, Kentucky Paul Mitchell, Michigan Greg Gianforte, Montana SHERIA CLARKE, Staff Director WILLIAM MCKENNA, General Counsel MICHAEL KOREN, Professional Staff Member KATY ROTHER, Senior Counsel SHARON CASEY, Deputy Chief Clerk DAVID RAPALLO, Minority Staff Director (II) VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:45 Aug 15, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 H:\30293.TXT APRIL KING-6430 with DISTILLER SUBCOMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS Mark Meadows, North Carolina, Chairman Jody B. Hice, Georgia, Vice Chair Gerald E. Connolly, Virginia, Ranking Jim Jordan, Ohio Minority Member Mark Sanford, South Carolina Carolyn B. Maloney, New York Thomas Massie, Kentucky Eleanor Holmes Norton, District of Columbia Ron DeSantis, Florida Wm. Lacy Clay, Missouri Dennis A. Ross, Florida Brenda L. Lawrence, Michigan Rod Blum, Iowa Bonnie Watson Coleman, New Jersey SUBCOMMITTEE ON HEALTHCARE, BENEFITS, AND ADMINISTRATIVE RULES Jim Jordan, Ohio, Chairman Mark Walker, North Carolina, Vice Chair Raja Krishnamoorthi, Illinois, Ranking Darrell E. Issa, California Minority Member Mark Sanford, South Carolina Jim Cooper, Tennessee Scott DesJarlais, Tennessee Eleanor Holmes Norton, District of Columbia Mark Meadows, North Carolina Robin L. Kelly, Illinois Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin Bonnie Watson Coleman, New Jersey Paul Mitchell, Michigan Stacey E. Plaskett, Virgin Islands (III) VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:45 Aug 15, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 H:\30293.TXT APRIL KING-6430 with DISTILLER VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:45 Aug 15, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 H:\30293.TXT APRIL KING-6430 with DISTILLER C O N T E N T S Page Hearing held on October 24, 2017 .......................................................................... 1 WITNESSES PANEL I: Ms. Joo Y. Chung, Director of Oversight and Compliance, Office of the Deputy Chief Management Officer, Department of Defense Oral Statement ................................................................................................. 3 Written Statement ............................................................................................ 5 Mr. Giancarlo Brizzi, Principal Deputy Associate Administrator, Office of Government-wide Policy, General Services Administration Oral Statement ................................................................................................. 11 Written Statement ............................................................................................ 13 Dr. James C. Owens, Acting General Counsel, Department of Transportation Oral Statement ................................................................................................. 17 Written Statement ............................................................................................ 19 PANEL II: Mr. Jitinder Kohli, Managing Director, Deloitte Consulting Oral Statement ................................................................................................. 48 Written Statement ............................................................................................ 50 Ms. Diane Katz, Senior Research Fellow for Regulatory Policy, The Heritage Foundation Oral Statement ................................................................................................. 53 Written Statement ............................................................................................ 55 Mr. James Goodwin, Senior Policy Analyst, Center for Progressive Reform Oral Statement ................................................................................................. 67 Written Statement ............................................................................................ 69 Mr. Clyde Wayne Crews, Vice President for Policy, Competitive Enterprise Institute Oral Statement ................................................................................................. 86 Written Statement ............................................................................................ 88 (V) VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:45 Aug 15, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 H:\30293.TXT APRIL KING-6430 with DISTILLER VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:45 Aug 15, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00006 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 H:\30293.TXT APRIL KING-6430 with DISTILLER REGULATORY REFORM TASK FORCES CHECK–IN Tuesday, October 24, 2017 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, SUBCOMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS, JOINT WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON HEALTHCARE, BENEFITS, AND ADMINISTRATIVE RULES COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM, Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10:05 a.m., in Room 2154, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Mark Meadows [chair- man of the subcommittee on Government Operations] presiding. Present: Representatives Meadows, Jordan, Hice, Sanford, Massie, DesJarlais, Grothman, Mitchell, Blum, Krishnamoorthi, Maloney, Norton, Kelly, Lawrence, and Plaskett. Also present: Representative Palmer. Mr. MEADOWS. The Subcommittee on Government Operations and the Subcommittee on Healthcare Benefits and Administrative Rules will come to order. And, without objection, the chair is au- thorized to declare a recess at any time. It is not every day that we get to hold hearings and highlight good news about Federal regulations. Certainly, in July, the admin- istration announced in the course of just 5 months, Federal Gov- ernment was able to achieve a reduction in the net regulatory cost. Bravo. While still issuing new regulations, this administration ac- tually has saved $22 million, and I would like to reiterate, $22 mil- lion American taxpayer dollars, over this course. And to put that in abstract terms, at the end of the Obama ad- ministration, it would have taken someone 3 years and 177 days to read through the entire Code of Federal Regulations. As of today, that number has been reduced to 2 years and 217 days. This amounts to an over 25 percent decrease in the size of the CFR. Now, this type of progress is shrinking the Federal regulations, is really unheard of. And it is thanks to the President’s regulatory reform agenda. In January, President Trump issued an Executive Order 13771, which established a one in, two out, process where agencies must repeal two regulations for every new regulation that the agency issues. The order also directed the agencies that they must achieve a net regulatory cost of zero in the fiscal year 2017. By all accounts, the agencies will continue to surpass this goal. And, in February, Presi- dent Trump issued a second Executive Order that provided a proc- ess by which the agencies would implement the one in, two out, re- quirement. The Executive Order 13777 requires each agency to des- (1) VerDate Nov 24 2008 10:45 Aug 15, 2018 Jkt 000000 PO 00000 Frm 00007 Fmt 6633 Sfmt 6633 H:\30293.TXT APRIL KING-6430 with DISTILLER 2 ignate a Regulatory Reform officer, and to implement regulatory re- forms at their agency, and to establish a Regulatory Reform Task Force to review the agency’s regulations to determine whether they should be repealed or replaced. Now, in September, I joined leadership from this committee and the House Judiciary Committee to request briefings from 24 agen- cies on the work of their task force. The results from these brief- ings are indeed impressive. Those agencies have begun comprehen- sive reviews, not only for their regulations, but guidance docu- ments, policies, information collections, and other written materials that impose burdens on the public. Many agencies have already started to clean house by starting the process to repeal and amend regulations. And this kind of kick in the pants change-out our out of control regulatory footprint was badly needed. The committee will be hearing today from three of those agencies that enthusiastically