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Q&A with Paul A. Jargowsky

An associate professor at the University of Texas at Dallas, Jargowsky directs the Bruton Center for Development Studies, which researches urban and regional development policies and trends, and the Texas Schools Project, which studies educational issues. His research interests center on the geographic concentration of and residential segre- gation by race and class. His award-winning book, Poverty and Place: , Barrios, and the American City, comprehensively examines poverty at the neighborhood level.

How did the term concentrated poverty being worse off when their neighbors are work. First, we used to push people into come about? also poor, compared with those living in neighborhoods of concentrated poverty by mixed-income neighborhoods. constructing large-scale public housing Before the 1960s, people generally projects. Now we do the flip side of that. thought that poverty was related to Very large tracts of land are developed place. For example, they would refer to Why is it relevant to talk about con- just for higher-income households. By rural, Skid Row or Appalachian poverty. centrated poverty instead of poverty building housing for only one income level Then in the 1960s, Molly Orshansky at in general? in a neighborhood, we segregate people. the Social Security Administration It is important to care about the total Second, increasing crime, such as at the invented the official poverty line, which number of poor people. However, a poor time of the riots in the 1960s and 1970s, was an estimate of how much it costs a child who goes to a failing school, whose pushed the white middle class from the family to cover basic necessities. classmates are poor and neighbors are not central city. This is what we commonly The problem with this definition is working at regular jobs, is much worse off know as . Third, new housing that its is the same than a poor child who is surrounded by developments with attractive amenities regardless of the local cost of living, people whose expectation is to achieve pull people farther and farther out in the focusing solely on one family’s income academically and professionally. It is sig- suburbs. This pattern continues now, such and ignoring the neighborhood context. nificantly more difficult for children living as when people move from the Dallas sub- The relationship between poverty and in concentrated poverty to make wise urb of Richardson to Plano or McKinney. place came back into focus when William choices because they are likely to lack the Julius Wilson, now a professor at Har- opportunity and information on how to vard University, published The Truly Dis- improve their livelihoods. Are there any positive aspects of con- advantaged: The Inner City, the Under- centrated poverty? class, and Public Policy. This book What causes concentrated poverty? Let’s look at immigrant gateways. reintroduced the concept of poor people There are push and pull factors at When immigrants move into poor neigh- borhoods with other immigrants, their similar backgrounds help them transition into the new environment. The question is what happens to the second generation of immigrants. Are they living in these same high-poverty neighborhoods, or do they have and take the opportunity to improve their families’ quality of life? When we talk about concentrated poverty, the core issue is the degree of upward mobility for people of all races, incomes, and so forth. The strength of weak ties is an asso- ciated issue. While in the short term it may be comfortable to be surrounded by neighbors who are in the same conditions as oneself, in the long run it is more important to have access to people who have more resources, including knowl- edge about job opportunities. This is a well-known argument made by sociologist Mark Granovetter.

4 perspectives Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas CONCENTRATED POVERTY: A PRIMER What do you think is a sustainable (Continued from page 3) solution to concentrated poverty? If more communities or cities Islands of Isolation: is a poverty rate of 46 percent, one of were sharing the responsibility for pro- Texas’ highest. viding housing for different income lev- Two Communities els, then there wouldn’t be as much High-poverty neighborhoods and Fewer than 45 percent of Delta concern that any one neighborhood their residents are off the radar of most Region adults have graduated from high would bear a disproportionate amount Americans. Yet such communities can be school or earned a GED, far below the of the lower-income housing burden. found throughout the country. In the national average of 80 percent. Only 6 Coordination between jurisdictions percent have at least a bachelor’s degree. could help eliminate the destructive Eleventh District, Hidalgo County’s Delta Because job opportunities are limited, forms of competition so that the rules Region and—at the other end of the of the game change. state—South Dallas are two places residents who do complete college usu- In the current housing situation, where concentrated poverty has shaped ally leave. the rules of the game dictate that neighborhoods and the lives of those The Edcouch–Elsa School District is today’s winners will be tomorrow’s los- who live in them. Many other rural and the region’s largest employer. Approxi- ers. We live in a society where there is urban areas in the district share similar mately 60 percent of households earn a very predictable progression of sub- less than $25,000 annually, and median urban development. New suburbs will stories. individual earnings run just under become old suburbs, which start dete- riorating. When some people see A Rural Setting $11,000. More than 90 percent of the stu- minorities and poor people moving into Set in the heart of Texas’ Rio dents in the two school districts are eli- their neighborhoods, they start to con- Grande Valley, the Delta Region—popu- gible for free or reduced-price lunches. sider moving out. They are making a lation 45,000-plus—encompasses the The median home value is $35,300. sensible choice, given the existing rural communities of Edcouch, Elsa, La Texas’ rural population as a share structure of how neighborhoods Villa and Monte Alto. Boarded-up, of the state total fell between 2000 and develop, because they understand what happens to property values. underutilized, and irreparable commer- 2005, a trend that’s expected to persist. This pattern of rapid laissez-faire cial and residential buildings dominate Population in the Delta Region, by con- housing development can facilitate seg- the area. Large industrial canning and trast, rose by 6,900, or 18 percent, over regation and the concentration of cotton facilities that long ago lost their the same period and is expected to con- poverty and limit poor people’s access luster dot the landscape. These are com- tinue rising. Many area residents origi- to opportunity. Fortunately, this type of munities where Spanish is the language nally came from Mexico as migrant farm- development is not inevitable. Our current population is 300 mil- of commerce and the Catholic Church workers. In recent years, the population lion people, and it is projected to be dominates the culture. Ninety-six per- has continued to grow as families 364 million by the year 2030, a 21 per- cent of the population is , and reunite, U.S.–Mexico trade expands and cent increase. We will have to build only Spanish is spoken in eight of every the cost of living remains low. housing for all of these people. In addi- 10 households.8 Many immigrant families move to tion, some current housing units will Unemployment typically fluctuates this high-poverty area because land is have to be replaced, so we will need a between 20 and 32 percent, due to the relatively inexpensive, their extended 25 to 30 percent larger housing stock. In what pattern are we going to seasonal nature of agricultural work. families have established roots there, build? Are we going to build neighbor- Other job options are limited. The result and educational opportunities and health hoods in such a way that poor kids will go to school only with other poor chil- dren? Are we going to build them in a pattern that leads to higher segregation by race or income so that poor people live in jurisdictions that lack basic infrastructure while rich people live in those with high-quality infrastructure and public services? Or are we going to build them so that there is less division between the income classes and racial groups, making it easier for poor peo- ple to be integrated into the social and economic mainstream? In my opinion, spatial access to opportunity is the great emerging social challenge of the 21st century.