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DAILY YOUR VOICE IN PARLIAMENT THETHE SECOND FIRST MEETING MEETING OF THE O FSECOND THE FIFTH SESSION SESSION OF OF THETHE ELEVEN TWELFTHT HPARLIAMENT PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 19 NOVEMBER 2020 MIXED VERSION HANSARDHANSARD NO: NO. 200 193 DISCLAIMER Unocial Hansard This transcript of Parliamentary proceedings is an unocial version of the Hansard and may contain inaccuracies. It is hereby published for general purposes only. The nal edited version of the Hansard will be published when available and can be obtained from the Assistant Clerk (Editorial). THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East) Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of the Opposition) Maun West Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. (Acting Opposition Whip) Shoshong Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. Ghanzi South Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE FIRST MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 19 NOVEMBER, 2020 CONTENTS PAGE (S) QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE............................................................................................................17-23 Response to the President’s Speech Motion (Resumed Debate) ...............................................................................................................1-16, 24-49 Thursday 19th November, 2020 RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT’S SPEECH Motion (Resumed Debate) Thursday 19th November, 2020 been months, I have not been to the Office of Labour in Mahalapye, I do not even think he knows the officer’s THE ASSEMBLY met at 11:00 a.m. name I am referring to, nor has he ever taken any steps (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) to call this officer to order. He has remained mute about this issue for the past three or so months. I am here, the P R A Y E R S people are crying in Mahalapye. * * * * Gompieno jaana, ke dumalana le Honourable Reatile RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT’S gore Office ya Labour go lebega e sena meno jaaka a SPEECH bua. Jaaka ke ne ke bua gore ke tsile ke hutsafetse ke tswa Mahalapye, ke akanya gore, ke gore fa e le gore ke Motion le Mopalamente wa Mahalapye ke bo ke kopa thuso ya (Resumed Debate) mofuta o mo Ofising ya Labour, ba bo ba nthaya jaana, batho ba Mahalapye ba ba raya ba reng? Go raya gore MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Order! Order! batho ba Mahalapye ba sweletse. Jaanong ke dumalana Honourable Members, the debate on this Motion le Honourable Reatile gore Officee ya Labour go lebega is resuming. When the House adjourned yesterday, e neetse tshwene marapo. Fa batho ba mpolelela, Office Honourable Tshere was on the floor, and he was left ya Labour e ja le batho ba ba hirang, bogolo jang ba with 29 minutes 6 seconds. re ba bitsang borampeetšhane ba. Gape fa ba biletswa kwa Labour Office, in most cases they do not show MR TSHERE (MAHALAPYE WEST): Thank you up, mme bana ba ba felela ba kobiwa mo ditirong. Ga very much Honourable Speaker. Maabane fa nako e go na ope who is paying attention. It is a vacuum kwa tšhaya, ke ne ke digela puo ya me ka office ya labour Department of Labour. Ga ba dire sepe mo dikgannyeng kwa Mahalapye, gore ke yone ya ntlha ke e bona e re ke tse. Therefore, I agree with Honourable Reatile. This ba kwaletse ke ba raya ke re ke batla go tla koo ka gore department should be dissolved in entirety so that a ke na le mathata a ke a tshwereng le batho ba kgaolo more worker centric organisation can be erected in its e, e bo e re phetolo fa e tla, ba bo ba nthaya ba re ke place. That is my submission Mr Speaker. kope authorisation from the Commissioner of Labour Let me move quickly to other issues because I have three mo Gaborone. Ke bua ke le kwa Mahalapye, officer other important issues that I want to share with this a mpolelela jalo. Golo moo go ne ga ntshwenya Mr House. Ke batla go feta ka e fela ya Integrated Support Speaker... Programme for Arable Agriculture Development MINISTER OF EMPLOYMENT, LABOUR (ISPAAD). Ke setse ke lemogile mo Ntlong e Mr PRODUCTIVITY AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT Speaker, fa ke ntse fa gore fa Goromente a batla go (MR BALOPI): On a point of clarification Mr Speaker. iphitlha ka monwana, o tlaabo a re, ‘I am reviewing,’ and Ke a leboga Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, ke tshwenngwa you will never get the results of the review. Gompieno ke mafoko a a buiwang ke Mopalamente wa Mahalapye jaana on paragraph 42… West Honourable Tshere, gore e le Mopalamente, e le MINISTER OF EMPLOYMENT, LABOUR moemedi wa batho kwa Mahalapye a setse tse ba di PRODUCTIVITY AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT tlhokang morago, gore a bo a kile a tewa gotwe a kope (MR BALOPI): Procedure. Mr Speaker, I do not permission gore a kope thuso kwa Ofising ya Labour e think it would be procedural for me to be present in le lephata le ke le eteletseng pele, ga se ka fa re dirang this House, Mopalamente a bua ka ofisi ya lephata le ka teng. Ke tsaya ke re re tlaa dira gore o bone ba labour ke romilweng kwa go lone, mme e bile ke sa kgone go o bue ka batho ba o ba emetseng ka dikgang tsa bone sedimosetsa ba a ba emetseng ka fa re dirang ka teng re kwa Ofising ya Labour Rre Tshere. I apologise on their le ofisi. Go tlaabo go lebega e kete se a se buang ke se se behalf. I do not know what informed their decision. We tshwanetseng go diragala e bile ke maikaelelo a lephata will rectify that. Thank you. le ke le emetseng. Fa o ntetlelela Mr Speaker, gongwe MR TSHERE: Thank you Honourable Minister. ke ka tsibogela ka mo thusa gore a se ka a boelela gape Honourable Speaker, mma ke go bolelele fa gore ga se mafoko a a a buileng kana a tlhoka go thusiwa kwa lantlha ke bua le Honourable Balopi ka kgang e.