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Trusted Exchange Framework and Common Agreement Task Force Transcript June 11, 2019 Virtual Meeting SPEAKERS Name Organization Role Arien Malec Change Healthcare Co-Chair John Kansky Indiana Health Information Exchange Co-Chair Noam Arzt HLN Consulting, LLC Public Member Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Laura Conn (CDC) Member Cynthia A. Fisher WaterRev, LLC Member Anil K. Jain IBM Watson Health Member David McCallie, Jr. Individual Public Member The University of Texas at Austin, Dell Aaron Miri Medical School and UT Health Austin Member Carolyn Petersen Individual Member Steve L. Ready Norton Healthcare Member Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Mark Roche (CMS) Member Mark Savage UCSF Center for Digital Health Innovation Public Member Sasha TerMaat Epic Member Grace Terrell Envision Genomics Public Member Andrew Truscott Accenture Member Sheryl Turney Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield Member Denise Webb Individual Member Lauren Richie Office of the National Coordinator Designated Federal Officer Cassandra Hadley Office of the National Coordinator HITAC Back Up/Support Zoe Barber Office of the National Coordinator Staff Lead Kim Tavernia Office of the National Coordinator Back Up/Support Alex Kontur Office of the National Coordinator SME Morris Landau Office of the National Coordinator Back-up/Support Trusted Exchange Framework and Common Agreement Task Force, June 11, 2019 1 Michael Berry Office of the National Coordinator SME Debbie Bucci Office of the National Coordinator SME Kathryn Marchesini Office of the National Coordinator Chief Privacy Officer Trusted Exchange Framework and Common Agreement Task Force, June 11, 2019 2 Lauren Richie – Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology – Designated Federal Officer Hello, everyone. Welcome to the TEFCA taskforce meeting today. We’ll get started with a quick roll call and then we’ll hand it over to John Kansky to get us started. I know of the members, we have John Kanksy, Carolyn Petersen, Denise Webb, David McCallie, Mark Savage, Noam Arzt, and Laura Conn. Did I miss anyone? Okay. John, I’ll turn it over to you before we get started with our draft recommendations. John Kansky – Indiana Health Information Exchange - Co-Chair Thank you. Good morning or afternoon. I wanted to acknowledge that Arien remains engaged and energetic. He is dealing with some health issues, as I think many of you know, but I heard from him a couple times this week. We may not have the benefit of his brain today, but he remains engaged. So, I thought everyone might appreciate an update on Arien. David McCallie, Jr. – Individual - Public Member Thanks so much. Appreciate that. John Kansky – Indiana Health Information Exchange - Co-Chair Absolutely. I wanted to explain the approach that we are hoping to take today. We have gone straight to a draft transmittal letter. Don’t panic. We have a lot of work to do within that letter to talk about, discuss, refine, and edit. It just seemed to skip a step or two if we went through the ideas that we summarized and a first crack at recommendations right in the letter. So, the idea of what we’re going to do today is to look at this first draft, the sections that we have initial recommendations on and then, as time permits, go through as many of those as we can to capture your feedback on, “Hey, you’re missing a recommendation,” or, “That’s not what I thought we all agreed on,” or, “Can you change that comment to a semicolon, etc., etc.” Let me ask – any objections to that approach or any questions about that approach? David McCallie, Jr. – Individual - Public Member This is David. What’s the timetable on this draft and when does it get delivered? Just remind me of that flow. John Kansky – Indiana Health Information Exchange - Co-Chair Yeah. So, we’re presenting – Zoe, you or Lauren may be better off commenting on that – I just know that we have to have a draft version to present at the HITAC meeting on the 11th – sorry, I got the date wrong. Lauren Richie – Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology - Designated Federal Officer The 19th. Cynthia A. Fisher – WaterRev, LLC - Member Trusted Exchange Framework and Common Agreement Task Force, June 11, 2019 3 19/19. John Kansky – Indiana Health Information Exchange - Co-Chair June 19th, thank you. Then final recommendations by July 11th. David McCallie, Jr. – Individual - Public Member So, what we’d be working on here would be an initial round that could be presented on the 19th. So, we might want to touch lightly on all the areas or do we want to go deep on some of them and say we’ll get to do the rest of them later. Is it a depth-first or breadth-first search here? John Kansky – Indiana Health Information Exchange - Co-Chair Yeah. I didn’t have a well-defined plan other than to say I thought we would review the areas in which we have recommendations quickly in the first, I don’t know, five minutes or so and then circle back and actually start with Section 2.2 of the letter, skipping over 2.1 on the basis that it’s the most high-level and philosophical and important. 2.2 to the bottom is a little bit more concrete and needs more specific input. So, my idea, David, was, after overviewing the sections, start with 2.2 and see how far we could get and then pick up where we left off tomorrow. I hadn’t really contemplated trying to be high-level versus low-level. So, I guess, level. David McCallie, Jr. – Individual - Public Member Okay. That’s fine. We can obviously spend a whole day on a single one of these. So, you’ll have to work hard to keep us moving. John Kansky – Indiana Health Information Exchange - Co-Chair I’ll do my best. Good point. Mark Savage – UCSF Center for Digital Health Innovation- Public Member This is Mark. My only thought to David’s question is if we go light and once we go deep changing things, it can be a little confusing for HITAC. So, it may be – leave it to you and Arien to decide the level of depth at any particular point in time, but just to guard against going so light that we might have changed something down the road. John Kansky – Indiana Health Information Exchange - Co-Chair Well, I would say that we’re going to know more in about 20 minutes of how we might go. So, let’s dive in and see. We might surprise ourselves. Okay. With that, do we have – I’ve got to get my screen straight here. Are we projecting the letter now? Yes, we are. Okay. So, go back up to 2.1 for a second, if you would. So, I’m just going to walk – I believe all of you have a copy of the letter in your email, if you haven’t figure that out by now, but it’s also projected on the screen. The first section was, if you remember, in our first call, we started with a general Trusted Exchange Framework and Common Agreement Task Force, June 11, 2019 4 conversation about the value and purpose of TEFCA and its coordination with or its need to work in conjunction with info blocking. That’s the section I’m suggesting we skip for the moment and circle back to. The second section, 2.2, is on applicable law and some of our discussions that we’d had about how some of the boundary conditions that were discussed in the context of HIPAA and other applicable law. We have a couple of recommendations, some of which, I guarantee are going to create some discussion. Section 3 was related to the definition structure and application process for QHINs. We touched on that on an earlier call. My recollection of the conversation was largely not controversial. So, as of right now, we don’t have any specific comments to go in there, but absolutely wanted to touch on that in case there was something that we missed or that the taskforce wanted to consider for inclusion. Section 4 is QTF, including the modalities and exchange purposes and we have a couple of recommendations that we have captured initially from those conversations. Section 4.1 was individual access services specifically. Section 4.2 was public health. We do not have any specific recommendations in there, but there was significant conversation about public health and public health was used as an example a couple of times. So, we kind of have a blank spot plugged in there and wanted to prompt the taskforce for any further discussion on public health and the need for recommendations. Section 5 is privacy, including 5.1, the meaningful choice discussion, including a couple of recommendations there. 5.2 – this is starting to sound more familiar because we’ve slept fewer times since we’ve talked about these things – summary of disclosures and auditable events. And then Section 6 is all of the security topics. That takes us to the end of the letter, but that includes 6.1, use of data outside the US, 6.2, which is controlled unclassified information, 6.3, security tagging, 6.2 again, certificate authority backup and recovery, and 6.4 – so, we’re going to have to have creative use of cardinal numbers there – identity proofing and authorization. Okay. So, that’s your flyover of the letter. Any comments before we circle back to – I was going to suggest applicable law, 2.2, and dive in? David McCallie, Jr.