14'44 CONGRESSIONAL ·RECORD-SENATE. APRIL 22,

Mr. ALDRICH. 'The Senator from South Carolina wants to EXEoUTIVE SESSION. vote with us in disagreeing ·to this amendment. Mr. ALDRICH. I move that the Senate proceed to consid­ Mr. SMOOT. Mr. President-- eration of executive business. Mr. BACON. What effect does that have upon the -action of The motion was agreed to, and the Senate proceeded to the the House? consideration of executive business. After eight minutes spent ·The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from ·utan was rec- in executive session the doors were reopened, and (at 5 o'clock ognized. . and 8 minutes p. m.) the Senate adjourned until to-morrow, Mr. BEVERIDGE. I was on the floor and had not com­ Thursday, .April 22, 1909, at 12 o'clock _meridian. pleted ·my remarks. The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from Utah was rec­ ognized before the Sena tor from Indiana rose. NOMINATIONS. Mr. BEVERIDGE. The REcoRD will show the reverse was Executive nominations recei-ved by the Senate A.pril ~1, 1909. the case, but I do not insist. ENvoY EXTRAORDINARY .AND MINISTER PLENIPOTENrfIARY. Mr. .S~IOOT. I will yield to the Senator from Indiana. H. Percival Dodge, of Massachusetts, now envoy extraordinary Mr. BEVERIDGE. Not at all. and minister plenipotentiary to Salvador, to be envoy extraor­ l\Ir. NELSON. Will the Senator-- dinary and minister plenipotentiary of the United States of The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from Utah is recog- America to Morocco, vice Samuel R. Gummere. nized by the Chair. l\Ir. NELSON. Will the Senator yield to me for a minute? RECEIVER OF PUBLIC MONEYS. l\Ir. SMOOT. I yield to the Senator from Minnesota. William C . .Blair, of Lake City, Colo., to be receiver of public l\Ir. NELSON. The ame}ldment proposed by the Senate is in moneys at Montrose, Colo., vice Gordon Kimball, term expired. the nature of a motion to strike out and insert. If that amend­ REGISTER OF THE LAND OFFICE. ment is rejected, it seems to me that the House provision re­ William H. Batting, of Wallace, Idaho, to be register of the .mains. land office at Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, vice Robert N. Dunn, Mr. SMOOT. That is true. resigned. Mr. NELSON. You want to have the House provision remain? SURVEYOR-GENERAL. Mr. ALDRICH. Yes. Edward P. Kingsbury, of Washington, .to be surveyor-general Mr. S~IOOT. Perhaps I .had better explain how the Senate of Washington, his term having expired March 1, 1909. (Reap­ colhmittee came to make the amendment. There has been a pointment.) of in great deal sulphur of late .discovered Japan. It is formed PROMOTIONS IN THE ARMY. by hot water running from the mountains, coming out in crude .sulphur, almost pure. That sulphur comes into this country MEDICAL CORPS • now free. It is 99.7 per cent pme sulphur, but it comes in the Capt. Elbert E. Persons, Medical Corps, to be major from shape of mats, and has been always allowed to come here free. January 1, 1909, vice Mccaw, promoted. There are a great many sulphur mines in Wyoming and Utah Capt. William N. Bispham, Medical Corps, to be major from that come in direct competition with thi.s product. We thought January 1, 1909, vice Kean, promoted. by the wording of the amendment that we could eliminate the INFAN'.IJRY .AB!L Japanese sulphur and still no~ interfere with the Sicilian sul­ Second Lieut. .Albert B. Hatfield, Eighteenth Infantry, to be phur that comes here in the East and is manufactured in sul­ first lieutenant from March 25, 1909, vice Stone, Thirtieth Infan­ phuric acid and fertilizer, used in wood pulp, and a thou.sand try, promoted. other things. But we found that it was impossible to do that. Second Lieut. Regin_ald H. Kelley, Fourth Infantry, to be first So we are now perfectly willing to go back to the Dingley lieutenant from .April 3, 1909, vice Kinzie, Twentieth Infantry, .rate and let the sulphur come in as it did. It is crude sulphur resigned. · that comes in mats, and it does not interfere at all with the Japanese sulphur. Mr. BACON. If I understand the Senator correcUy, the pres- CONFIRMATIONS. ent r-ate of duty is only on.the refined or sublimate of sulphur. Exec1iti1Je n0111Jinations confirmed by th~ Senate April 'R-1, 1909. Mr. SMOOT. Yes. Mr. BACON. It does not affect the crude sulphur/ MINISTER TO CHILE. 1\Ir. S~fOOT. It does not affect the crude sulphur. Thomas C. Dawson to be envoy extraordinary and minister Mr. BACON. So, if the law is permitted to stand as it is now, plenipotentiary of the United States of America to Chile. crude sulphur will come in free of duty. UNITED STATES ATTORNEY. Mr. SMOOT. Crude sulphur wm come in free of duty. Carnelius D. Murane to be United States attorney, third Mr. TILLMAN. The Senator from Florida has just informed division, district ot .Alaska. me that a certain portion of Louisiana is interested in this sul­ phur schedule, and as the Senators from Louisiana are not pres­ POST:h.fASTERS. ent, I suggest to the chairman of the Committee on Fina.nee to KAN-SAS. let the paragraph go over until we can hear from Louisiana. .Almond P. Burdick, at Nortonville, Kans. Perhaps there is something down there that they would like to Henry A. Platt, at Overbrook, Kans get a little protection for. MAINE. Mr. SMOOT. I will inform the Senator from South Carolina that Louisiana to-day is not interested in the tariff on sulphur Harlan P. Denni.son, at West Bethel, Me. in any way. Louisiana can produce sulphur cheaper than any MASSACHUSETTS. country on earth. Charles D. Streeter, at Mount Hermon, Mass. Mr. TILLMA.l"'f. They just go and dig it out of the ground and sho>el it into a sack and ship it here? Mr. S~IOOT. They do not even dig it aut of the ground. SEN.ATE. They pump the hot water, and it runs out sulphur. I under­ , tand that Louisiana is in such a position to-day that they have THURSDAY, April 1393, 1909. ·even gone so far a to go to Sicily and tell the authorities there Prayer by Rev. Ulysses G. B. Pierce, of the city of Washington. .if they import sulphur into this country, they will flood their The Journal of yesterday's proceedings was read and approved. own markets with sulphur. I have seen the statement made PETITIONS AND MEMORIALS. that they can produce sulphur in Louisiana to-day for $3.56 a ton. Louisiana controls the sulphur market of the world. The VICE-PRESIDENT presented petitions of sundry citizens The VICE-PRE !DENT. The Senator from South Carolina of Illinois, l\lissoul'i, Oklahoma, Minnesota, Maine, Texas, Ohio, a ks th"at the paragraph be passed over. It will be passed over. North Carolina, New York, New Jersey, Arkan as, California, The next amendment was, on page 18, line 18, before the word Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Tennessee, and Michigan, " cents," to strike out "fifteen " and insert " twenty-five," so as praying for a reduction of the duty on raw and refined sugars, to make the paragraph read: which were ordered to lie on the table. Mr. SCOTT presented petitions of sundry citizens of Berkeley 81. Vanillin, 25 cents per ounce. Spr1ngs, Sherry Run, and l\Iorgan County, all in the State of The amendment was agreed to. West Virginia; of Illinois, Texas, Missouri, Colorado, .and Con­ The next amendment was, in Schedule B, on page 18., after necticut, praying that a suitable memorial to James Rumsey line 19, to strike out the subhead" Brick and· tile." be placed in Statuary Hall of the Capitol building, which were Tb.e amendment was agreed to. referred to the Committee on the Library. 1909. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE.

l\Ir. FRYE presented petitions of- sundry citizens of 1\Iaine, a government line of steamers from the Pacific coast ports to praying for a reduction of the duty on raw and refined sugars, Panama. I ask that the resolutions be read and referred to the which were ordered to lie on the table. Committee on Interoceanic Canals. fr. NELSON presented an affidavit to accompany the bill There being no objection, the resolutions were read and re­ (S. 634) granting an increase of pension to Daniel W. Ingersoll, fened to the Committee on Interoceanic Canals. as follows : which was referred to the Committee on Pensions. Whereas the Government is now operating a line of steamers from 1\1.r. BURROWS presented a petition of Local Lodge No. 429, New York to Colon in connection with the Panama Railroad; and Whereas a line so operated can not be of general service or use or BeneT"olent and Protecti"ve Order of Elks, of Adrian, Mich., and secure the freight necessary to its successful operation; and a petition of Local Lodge No. 632, Benevolent and Protective Whereas the commercial necessities of the Pacific coast demand the Order of Elks, of Manistique, 1\Iich., praying for the enactment extension of this service to all points on the Pacific coast: Now there­ fore be it of legislation to create a national reserve in the State of Wy­ Resokea b-y the Chamber of Oommerce of the Oi ty of P0t·tlan

- 1446 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. APRIL 22,

This shows an average redaction of over 26 per cent, as against a I wish to repeat that the total output of what was mined and reduction on tin plate of 20 per cent ; beams, girders, channels, etc., of 20 per cent; and on ingots, blooms, billets, slabs, etc., of 25 per cent, manufactured by the steel trust in 1907 in value amounted to notwithstanding the fact that even under the Dingley measure sheets $757,000,000 in round numbers. The total importations of the are not accorded as much protection, relatively speaking, as these other same kind of articles in 1907 amounted to only $34,000,000, or steel articles. '.rhe inconsi tency of these new rates is very apparent when you consider that t he protection on the finished sheet product, about 4.4 per cent. with its high labor cost, has been reduced more r elatively than is the FREE TRADE WITH CUBA. case on the raw material, with its low labor cost-that is, ingots, blooms. billets, etc.-and all in face of the fact that the Republican 1\Ir. GALLINGER. I present and ask to ha-ve printed as a part y has always claimed that the tariff rates should provide ample Senate document a letter on Cuba and Cuban sugars, written protection to labor. November 30, 1908, to Representative SAMUEL W. l\IcCALL, of You will plea e understand that I am not contending that the pro­ tection afforded t eel articles other than sheets is too much, but rather Massachusetts, by Gen. James H. Wilson, of Wilmington, Del., the protection on sheets i t oo little. and also an address by General Wil on, 1\Iarch 27, 1899, at One of the principal items of cost in the manufacture of sheets is a meeting in Philadelphia, held under the auspices of the Amer­ wages, and, as an ilia tration of what this means, we invite your at­ tention to the following. ican Academy of Political and Social Science. The bot-mill labor cost in the manufacture of a ton of sheets is I do not agree with all the opinions expressed by General approximately: Wilson, but all he may say on a subject so important is worthy On No. 20 gauge------$10 of attention. These papers at this time should be made readily accessible to Congress, and I ask that they be printed as a Lighterg~ ~~: ~~than ~~~ No.f~======32 gauge ______20 to §624 document ( S. Doc. No. 17) . 'l'he above amounts covei: only what is termed the " hot-mill labor "­ The VICE-PRESIDENT. Is there objection to the request of that is, the labor from the slab or bar (raw material) to the finished the Senator from New Hampshire? The Chair hears none, and black sheet-and does not cover the labor involve d in the mining of the it is so ordered. coal and other indirect charges which, in the aggregate, is considerable. FLATHEAD INDIAN RESERVATION. It would therefore appear that if ingots, blooms, billets, slabs, etc. (the sheet maker's raw material), is accorded protection at the rate l\fr. DIXON. I present a compilation of the acts relating to of three-tenths of 1 cent per pound, or $6 per ton, the finished product, the Flathead Indian Heservation, in the State of Montana, say No. 20 gauge, should have protection of more than $10 per ton, as the labor cost on the finished article is relatively much greater than the providing for the opening of this reservation to settlement, the difference in the amount of protection afforded .the two materials. construction of irrigating systems, and the dlspo al of the tim­ Furthermore, if a large structural section, such as a beam or girder, ber lands. I move that the compilation be printed as a docu­ weighing 50 to 75 pounds per linear foot and produced almost alto­ gether by automatic machinery on mills capable of rolling 1,000 tons ment ( S. Doc. No. 18). or more per day, is entitled to protection at the rate of $8 per ton, The motion was agreed to. certainly sheets, say, No. 20 gauge, weighing 1 ~ pounds per square foot and produced on a hand-operated mill capable of turning out only BILLS INTRODUCED. 5 tons per day, are entitled to more than $10 per ton protection. The Bills were introduced, read the first time, and, by unanimous fact that the Senate bill increased the protection on the structural from 6, as proposed by the Payne bill, to 8 is an indication that consent, the second time, and referred as follows: the Finance Committee rega rded $6 as being less than was necessary to By l\fr. CLARK of Wyoming: protect the home manufacturer as against foreign structural goods, and in this we quite agree with them. A bill ( S. 1952) to amend section 486 of the Code of Law of It would appear that in fairness to the sheet interests and in order the District of Columbia ; to the Committee on the J udiciary. to accord sheet products the same relative prot ection as that obtaining By l\1r. GUGGENHEIM: on other steel products, section No. 125 of Schedule C of the Payne A bill (S. 1953) authorizing the appointment of James Moyna­ bill should be amended to read as follows : " Sheets of iron or steel, common or black, of whatever dimensions, han to the rank ancl grade of major on the retired list of the and skelp fron or steel, valued at 3 cents per pound or less, thinner United States Army; to the Committee on l\filitary Affairs. than No. 10 and not thinner than No. 20 wire gauge, six-tenths of 1 By l\Ir. WETMORE : cent per pound ; thinner· than No. 20 wfre gauge and not thinner than No. 25 wire gauge, seven-tenths of 1 cent per pound; thinner than No. A bill (S. 1954) granting an increase of pension to Van ·Buren 25 wire gauge and not thinner than No. 32 wire gauge, nine-tenths of Kinney; to the Committee on Pensions. 1 cent per pound; corrugated or crimped, nine-tenths of 1 cent per By l\fr. BURROWS : pound. All the foregoing valued at more than 3 cents per pound, 30 per cent ad valorem: ProV"ided, That all sheets or plates of common or A bill ( S. 1955) granting a pension to C. Augusta Shurly black iron or steel not thinner than No. 10 wire gauge shall pay duty (with the accompanying paper); to the Committee on Pensions. as plate iron or plate steel." · By l\fr. HEYBURN : Jn conclusion, would say that I heartily agree with you that a revi­ sion of the tariff at this time is a very grave mistake, and that no good A bill ( S. 1956) granting an increase of pen ion to Auguste and much harm will follow the inauguration of the n ew rates, the whole E . Bourquin (with the accompanying paper) ; to the Committee trouble being brought about seemingly by agitation on the part of so­ on Pensions. called "reformers," who never have and neve1· will be able to suggest anything for the betterment of the country at large, and had more of the By l\lr. DU PONT: influential men of our party followed your lead and refused at the A bill ( S. 1957) granting a pension to William Robinson proper time to even consider the question of a revision we would all (with the accompanying paper) ; to the Committee on Pensions. now be operating our plants to full capacity and disposing of our prod­ uct at prices that would show profit to the owners and render it unnec­ By Ur. BRIGGS : - es ary for employers to be constantly considering the advisability of A bill ( S. 195 ) granting an increase of pension to Helen reducing the wages of their workmen. ·Lydia Ruger; to the Committee on Pensions. So far as sheets are concerned, I very much fear that the danger point has been reached, and if the rates as now proposed by the Finance By l\lr. l\IcLAURIN : Committee go through it will result in demoraliza tion. to the sheet busi­ A bill ( S. 1959) to correct the military record of James H . ness unless we can reduce our workmen to a point that will enable us Shannon; to the Committee on 1\Iilitary Affairs. to compete with the foreigner. Trusting that you may see your way clear to take up the cudgel in By l\fr. JONES : our defense, and thanking you in advance for such assistance as you A bill (S. 1960) granting an increase of pension to Edward can render at this time, I am, R. Edmonds; to the Committee on Pensions. '- Respectfully, ISAAC M. SCOTT, President. By l\Ir. DOLLIVER : To Senator NATHAN B. SCOTT, Washington, D. 0. A bill ( S. 1961) granting an increase of pension to Henry H . Baldwin; The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from West Vir- A bill ( S. 1962) granting an increase of pension to Forest ginia. desire to have the communication laid on the table? H. Kennedy; and l\fr. SCOTT. Let it lie on the table. A bill ( S. 1963) granting an increase of pension to William The VICE-PRESIDENT. It will lie on the table. l\Iyers (with the accompanying papers) ; to the Committee on l\Ir. CULBERSON. 1\Ir. President, I trust I may be pardoned Pensions. a suggestion in -view of this communication. I note that the AMENDME TS TO THE TARIFF BlLL. writer of this letter expresses a fear that English manufacturers Mr. FRYE submitted an amendment intended to be proposed will get a foothold in the United States. I want to call atten­ by him to the bill (H. R. 143 ) to provide revenue, equalize tion to the fact, particularly in this connection, that the total duties, and encourage the industries of the United States, and value of the output in 1907 of the steel trust amounted to some­ for other purpo es, which was ordered to lie on the· table and thing like $757,000,000. Of like articles imported into this be printed. ountry in 1907 the value was only $34,000,000. So that prac­ l\Ir. SCOTT submitted two amendments intended to be pro­ tically-- posed by him to the bill (H. R. 1438) to provide r evenue, Mr. ALDRICH. Is the Senator from Texas speaking on the equalize duties, and encourage the industries of the United communication or on the bill? States, and for other purposes, which were ordered to lie on Mr. CULBERSON. I am speaking on the communication, the table and be printed. and I am not going to speak on it except to call attention to a Mr. DU PONT submitted an amendment intended to be pro­ fact in connection and immediately in connection with the com­ posed by him to the bill (H. R. 1438) to provide r evenue, munication. equalize duties, and encourage the industries of t he United 1909. OONGRESSION A:L RECORD-SENATE. l1447 I States, and for other purposes, which was referred to the Com- true, and that they come under au. administrations, and fre­ mittee on Finance and ordered to be printed. quently come without any close connection with any govern- Mr. PILES submitted two amendments intended ·to be pro- mental policy. posed by him to the bill (H. R. 1438) to provide revenue, equal- But it still stands true that if the Senator from Rhode Island ize duties, and encourage t?e industries of the _United States, b.ad taken the average of the importations for five years, or if and for other purposes, which were ordered to lie on the table he had taken them for the last year, his bill, instead of provid­ and be printed. ing for the exp~ditures of the Government, would still have left .hlrA BRADLEY submitted two amendments intended to be a deficit staring the administration in the face. The only way proposed by him to the bill (H. R. 1438) to provide revenue, to escape was the way the Senator from Rhode Tsland, with his equalize duties, and encourage the industries of the United usual sagacity, has adopted, and the only way this bill can ful­ ,Stntes, .and for other purposes, which were ordered to lie on the fill his promise oj. u sufficient, not to say an abundant, revenue is table and be printed. . that the importations in the years to come will keep pace with Mr. DICK submitted an amendment int-ended to be proposed the importations of 1907. by him to the bill (H. R. 1438) to provide revenue, equalize .Mr. BRISTOW. If the Senator from Rhode Island will par­ duties, and encourage the industries of the United States, and °:on me, I should like to inquire whether there has been any pub­ for other purposes, whi.-ch was ordered to lie on the table and llshed estimate :as to the revenue that would be derived from be printed. the Senate bill~ based on tbe importations -0f 19067 THE .TABIEF. l\Ir. ALDRICH. There has been no published statement to The VICE-PRESIDENT. The morning business is closed. that effect. Mr. .ALDRICH. I .ask that Honse bill 1438 be laid before The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Secretary will proceed with the Senate. the reading of the bill. There. being no -Objection, the Senate, as in Committee of the Mr. LA FOLLETTE. I a-sk unanimous consent to reconsider Whole, resumed the consideration of the bill (H. R. 1438) to the vote by which the amendment to parngra_ph 58 was adopted, provide revenue, equalize duties, and encourage the industries and that paragraph 58 be passed m"c, wh1'ch th' e Sen- 82. Fire-brick, weighing not more than 10 pounds ea.ch not (7lazed .I:'... enameled, 01·namented, -0r decorated in any manner, $1.25 pe; ton; ator from Rhode Island once remarked on this floor was the gla.zed_, enameled, ornamented, or decorated, 35 per cent ad valorem; most acute and disastrous in its effects ever witnessed by this ~eig~mg mor~ than 10 J'.ounds each and not specially provided for country, occurred in 1907. But it is .still true that rn· the or·d1·- mmanp.er, this section, 30 per not cent glaze ad ' valoremenameled, ; glaz.ed, ornamented, enameled, or decorated ornamented, in any or nary progress of events those disturbances .come from time to decorated, 35 per cent ad valorem; brick, other than fire-brick, not .time.. While our friends on the other side are in the habit of glazed, enameled, painted. vltri!i.ed, -ornamented, or decorated 1n any manner, 25 per cent ad valorem; if glazed, enameled painted vitrified. sayrng tha t they on1 Y eome under Democratic administrations ornamented, or decorated in any manner, 35 per cent' ad valorem. ' the history of the country bears ample witness that that is not The amendment was agreed to. 1448 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- SEN ATE. ;APRIL 22,

T~e next amendment was, on page 19, line 10, after the Mr. BURTON. I wish to call attei;ition especially to that word " Tiles," to strike out " including quarries or quarry tiles, paragraph. so called;" in line 15, after the word "tiles," to insert "and l\lr. KEAN. Let the paragraph be read. tiling, by whatever name known,'~ and ·in line 19, after the The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Secretary will read the para­ words "ad valorem," to insert "so-called quarries or quarry graph, and after the paragraph is read the announcement will tiles, 35 per cent ad valorem; mantles, friezes, and all other be made. Paragraph 86 has been passed over, and paragraph 87 articles of every description, composed wholly or in chief value has been passed oyer. of tiles or tiling, 60 per cent ad valorem," so as to ·make the The next amendment was, on page 20, after line 18, to strike paragraph read: out the subhead " Clays or earths." 83. Tiles, plain unglazed, one color, exceeding 2 square inches in size, The amendment was agreed to. 4 cents per square foot; glazed, encaustic, ceramic mosaic, vitrified, The next amendment was, on page 20, line 21, after the word semivitrified, flint, spar, embossed, enameled, ornamental, hand painted, gold decorated, and all other earthenware tiles and tiling, by whatever " in," to strike out " sections 1 or 2 of this act " and insert name known, except pill tiles, valued at not exceeding 40 cents per " this section; " in line 23, after the word " in," to strike out square foot, 8 cent'> per square foot; exceeding 40 cents per square foot, " sections 1 or 2 of this act " and insert " this section ; " on 10 cents per square foot and 25 per cent ad valorem; so-called quarries or quarry tiles, 35 per cent ad valorem; mantles, friezes, and all other page 21, line 3, after the word "in," to strike out "sections 1 articles of every description, composed wholly or in chief value of tiles or 2 of this act " and insert " this section ; " in line 8, before or tiling, 60 per cent ad valorem. the word "bauxite," to strike out :fifteen one-hundredths of 1 l\fr. PENROSE. I ask that the amendment be passed o-rer. cent per pound on the bitumen content contained therein " and The VICE-PRESIDENT. The amendment or the paragraph? insert "crude, if not dried, or otherwise advanced in any man­ .Mr. PENROSE. The amendment and also the paragraph. ner, $1.50 per ton; if dried or otherwise advanced in any man­ The VICE-PRESIDENT. The paragraph will be passed over. ner, $3 per ton;" and in line 12, after the word "spar," to in­ The next amendment was, on page 19, after line 22, to strike sert " crude, or crushed, ground, or otherwise treated or manu­ out the subhead " Cement, lime, and plaster." factured; " so as to_make the paragraph read: The amendment was agreeed to. 88. Clays or earths, unwrought or unmanufactured, not specially pro­ vided for in this section, $1 per ton ; wrought or manufactured, not The next amendment was, on page 20, line 3, after the word specially provided for in this section, $2 per ton; china clay or kaolin, " in,'' to sti·ike out " sections 1 or 2 of this act " and insert $2.50 per ton; limestone rock asphalt containi'ng not more than 15 per "this section," so as to make the paragraph read: cent of bitumen, 50 cents per ton ; asphaltum and bitumen, not specially provided for in this section, crude, if not dried, or otherwise advanced 84. Roman, Portland, and other hydraulic cement, in barrels, sacks, or in any manner, $1.50 per ton; if dried or otherwise advanced in any other packages, 8 cents per 100 pounds, including weight of barrel or manner, $3 per ton ; bauxite, or beauxite, crude, not refined or otherwise package; in bulk, 7 cents per 100 pounds; other cement, not otherwise advanced in condition from its natural state, $1 per ton; fuller's earth, specially providepo ed to have been dutiable at 60 per cent. These are The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from South Dakot -rery different article , being friezes and decorations. asks that the paragraph Be passed over. l\Ir. BEVERIDGE. It is a matter of improved classification? Mr. PENROSE. Do I understand that the amendment of the Ur. ALDRICH. That is right. committee has been disagreed to, and that the paragraph has Ur. BEVERIDGE. It was not specifically provided for be­ been passed over? fore, but paid duty under a different classification. The VICE-PRESIDENT. It has not been agreed to. Mr. ALDHICH. Some of the articles did and some did not. Mr. SMOOT. I ask that it be passed over. 1\Ir. FLI?\T. It was the endeavor to cover articles not cov­ The VICE-PRESIDENT. The amendment will be passed ered in the other schedules. over. l\Ir. BEVERIDGE. Then it is not a matter of classification,. The next amendment was, on page 21, after line 20, to strike as I supposed it was. It ought to be thoroughly looked into. out: l\Ir. FLINT. It is a matter of classification. E.A.RTHENWA.RE A...."l'D CHI:SA. l\Ir. BEVERIDGE. Not if the Senator from California is 90. Common yellow, brown, or gray earthenware, of common clay right and a part of it did not pay duty at all. and strictly one color; plain, embossed, or salt-glazed, strictly one color common stoneware, and crucibles, all the foregoing not decorated l\Ir. FLINT. It did pay duty, but at a lower rate. in any manner, 25 per cent ad valorem; Rockingham earthenware not l\Ir. ALDRICH. Some things did and some things did not. decorated, 40 per cent ad valorem. Ur. C RTIS. I ask unanimous consent that paragraph 86 And to insert : be passed over. 90. Common yellow, brown, or gray earthenware, plain, embossed, or '.rhe VICE-PRESIDENT. Paragraph 86 will be passed over. salt-glazed common stoneware, and crucibles, all the foregoing not Paragraph 85 bas already been passed o>er. decorated in any manner, 25 per cent ad valorem; Rockingham earthen­ l\Ir. BROWN. I ask that paragraph 87 be passed over. ware, 40 per cent ad valorem. The VICE-PRESIDENT. The paragraph will be passed over. Mr. SCOTT. Unless the Senate wants to have the para­ Mr. BURTON. I ask that paragraph 88 be passed over. graphs read, I ask that paragraphs 90, m, and 92 be passed The VICE-PRESIDENT. Paragraph 88 will be· passed over. over. They relate to the p_ottery and china industry. 1909. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- SENATE. il449

l\Ir. ALDRICH. I suggest to the Senator from Virginia we appear that any rate was not covered by. that description, it might adopt the phraseology which has been prepared, and will be the duty of this side of the Chamber to correct such then let the paragraph go over as to rates. error. l\1r. SCOTT. I will hear the amendment. l\1r. BAILEY. The Senator from Rhode Island then intends Mr. ALDRICH. I think there is no trouble about the phrase­ for the Senate and the country to understand that in each case ology. E\erybody, I think, understands it. the committee have attempted to equalize the protectiQn, and The VICE-PRESIDENT. The amendment of the committee that-- will be stated. Mr. l\TELSON. 1\Ir. President, will the Senator yield to me l\Ir. BAILEY. Mr. President, I doubt the wisdom of dealing for a moment? with this in piecemeal. If it is to go ·over at all, I think it The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Texas yield ought to go over entirely. I ask that it may go over, and that to the Senator from Minnesota? we dispose of it all at once. · Mr. BAILEY. . Certai.Illy. The VICE-PRESIDENT. Paragraph 90 will be passed over. l\Ir. NELSON. I want to call the attention of the Senator The Senator from West Virginia asks that paragraph 91 be from Texas to what appears in this book, Notes on Tariff Re­ passed over. vision, prepared by the House, which shows that of gas re­ l\Ir. SCOTT. Paragraphs 91 and 92, all pertaining to the torts during the year 1907 there were only 55 imported, at a same subject. The chairman of the committee suggests that total value of $1,619; that the duty was $165 ; and the ad the wording could be changed. That is all I ask. valorem rate was 10.20. That duty seems to be absolutely pro­ The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from Texas. asks that hibitive, because there were practically no imports. I can not it be passed over without acting upon the amendments. The see any reason why we should increase that duty 200 per cent, Secretary will state the next amendment. from 10.20 to 30 per -cent, when the duty, as is manifest from The next amendment was, on page 23, line 8, after the word the records and books of the Treasury Department, is shown " in," to strike out " sections 1 or 2 of this act " and insert in its practical operations tQ be absolutely prohibitirn. Why "this section," so as to make the paragraph read: should we increase it threefold in this bill? Is that a proper 93. Articles and wares composed wholly or in chief value of earthy revision of the tariff? Is that the kind of a bill that the Ameri­ or mineral substances or carbon, not specially provided for in this sec­ can people have a right to expect? tion, whether susceptible1 of decoration or not, if not decorated in any manner, 35 per cent ad valorem; if decorated, 45 per cent ad valorem. Mr. BAILEY. And is that the kind of a bill that the Repub- lican party promised the country? The amendment was agreed to. Mr. ALDRICH. It is, absolutely, in this case. The next amendment was, on page 23, line 12. after the word Mr. PENROSE. Mr. President-- " retorts,'' to strike out "$3 each" and insert " 30 per cent ad The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Texas yield valorem,'' so as to read : to the Senator from Pennsylvania? 94. Gas retorts, 30 per cent ad valorem. Mr. BAILEY. I do. Mr. BAILEY. I should like to know what is the difference Mr. PENROSE. l\Ir. President, I think I can perhaps throw between " $3 each," as provided in the House bill, and " 30 per a little light on this amendment, because, if I recollect aright, cent ad valorem," as provided in the Senate bill? · it was inserted at my suggestion. l\fr. ALDRICH. 1\Ir. President, gas retorts have been recently The amendment has been made necessary on account of the imported into the United States· in several sections and com­ character of gas retorts imported in recent years. When the pleted afterwards. The specific rate of $3 is not acceptable as duty was first fixed, as I understand, these retorts were but a to those. As to the small ones, they were covered by the ex­ few feet in dimensions, while now they are imported up to 20 isting rate, which would be sufficient as to those; but a rate of and 30 feet in length. The duty was made. at this ad valorem $3 on a machine worth several hundred dollars is simply ridicu­ rate to meet that condition. I do not understand that it is lous. practically any increase as an ad valorem proposition, but the l\Ir. BAILEY. That is generally true of specific rates. $3 rate, which was a proper protecti\e rate on a small retort, Mr. ALDRICH. Oh, no. became a ridiculous rate ·on a retort r eaching the dimensions 1\Ir. BAILEY. An ad valorem rate of duty of $3 on an article of the magnitude I have mentioned. - worth $300, as compared with a duty of $3 on an article worth I have not at hand the correspondence on the subject. If the $30, is not more out of proportion than some of the other spe­ Senator from Texas wants further light on the subject, however, cific rates which find a place in nearly all tariff bills; but still, I suggest that the matter may pass over until I can get a . little Mr. President, that does not answer my question as to the rela­ more specific data; but the reason which I have stated is the tive rate. Of course the committee has information about the reason for this change, which is not an increase in any way. value of these gas retorts, and I should like to know how much l\fr. BAILEY. l\fr. President, the Senator from Pennsylvania people who are compelled to use them are compelled to pay for [Mr. PENROSE] and the Senator from North Dakota [Mr. these devices? McCuMBER] are each members of the Finance Committee and l\fr. ALDRICH. An ad valorem duty of 10 per cent, as the belong to that section of the Finance Committee which prepared Senator will see, on an article manufactured of iron and steel, this bill and which stands responsible for it. It is, therefore, as compared with the other duties imposed in the bill, would somewhat singular that the Senator from North Dakota admits be very ridiculous. that this is an increase of 300 per cent, and the Senator from Mr. BAILEY. Not ridiculous, but low. Pennsylvania denies that it is any increase at all. Mr. ALDRICH. Not perhaps ridiculous from "the Senator's Mr. PENROSE. It is an apparent increase,- but practically standpoint, but ridiculous from the standpoint of protection. not an increase at all. It is only to meet a new condition in Mr. BAILEY. Still, Mr. Presidellt, I do not get the informa­ the character of gas retorts. tion which I seek. I want to know what is the relative pro­ Mr. BAILEY. l\fr. President, that explanation, while I have portion as between the $3 fixed in the House bill and the 30 no doubt it is made in all sincerity by the Senator from Penn­ per cent as fixed in the Senate bill. Is it an increase? sylYania, will scarcely satisfy the country, because the country l\Ir. l\fcCUl\fBEil. I can answer that right here. I will state will turn to the very enlightening statement made by the Sena­ to the Senator from Texas that under the old bill the duty was tor from Minnesota [Mr. NELSON] and discover that even under 10.20 per cent and under this bill it is 30 per cent. the provision of the old law, which is one-third of the rate of Mr. BAILF.Y. In other words, it is-- duty imposed by the Senate bill, there was but a meager 65 Mr. McCU:MBER. Nearly three times as much. of these gas retorts imported at a value 'Of something like Mr. BAILEY. In other words, it multiplies the duty by $1,600 and a revenue of less than $200. Mr. President, if a three; and, of course, the Senator will not-- duty one-third of that now proposed was sufficient to give the Mr. McCUMBER. It is equivalent to simply 30 per cent American market to the manufacturers of this particular device, ad valorem. I will be amazed if the American people are willing to accept l\Ir: BAILEY. And, of course, the Senator would not object as a satisfactory explanation of this increase some supposed to giving to the Senate the reason why this Republican Congress necessity of equalizing the duty. Under the old duty, none or multiplies by three a duty levied by a preceding Republican practically none were imported; under the new duty not one Congress, and especially in a tariff bill that was to be "revised can be imported, and the American people must be still further · downward." taxed for light-not such light as Senators gi\e on the items Mr. ALDRICH. It is the purpose of the bill to correct the of this bill, but for light necessary to their comfort and their defects in the existing law. That is one of the principal rmr­ convenience. poses. It is the purpose of the committee to impose protective l\fr. ALDRICH. Mr. President, it is very evident that the duties in each case that will equalize the cost of production Senator from Texas has not given the attention to this item between this and competing countries. In carrying out this which he does usually to tariff items. One would suppose from purpose, this provision was changed. If it should hereafter his statement that gas retorts were used everywhere throughout _,_ il450 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENA'l'E. APRIL 22, the United States for supplying gas for common consumption. of iron and steel, how they appear in the earthenware I assume that the Senator from Texas has not made any inquiry schedule? as to what gas retorts are. Under the Wilson bill the rate Mr. SCOTT. I will say to the Senator from Iowa. that they was 20 per cent ad Talorem, and figured upon the lines of the are lined with German fire clay or with English fire clay, the Senator from Texas, that doubles the rates which were im- same material that we use in pots at the factories. posed under the Dingley law. The Senator says that there (_ Mr. DOLLIVER. Is the retort ma.de of clay, or is the clay were none imported. There were 640 imported in 1904, and in put in afterwards? 1905 there were 660 imported. That is a good many gas re- Mr. PENROSE. As I understand, Mr. President, the retorts torts. They a.re for holding gas-compressed gas usually-that are composed chiefly of clay, with a binder or casing of steel. is' used on railway trains, and has nothing to do with ordinary l\lr. SCOTT. That is right. consumption. Mr. PENROSE. They are used in some of the zinc industries l\!r. BAILEY. They are used for domestic purposes? of the State of Colorado,_ as I am informed by the Senato1· from Mr. ALDRICH. I never heard of one of these retorts being Colorado [Mr. GUGGENHEIM], and are 60 feet in length. This is so used. They are not used at all for domestic purposes. They an effort to provide for a duty on the importation of articles were formerly imported in small machines or small retorts, 60 feet in length, the original duty contemplating only a small but now they are being imported 25 or 30 feet long. Under retort a few feet in dimensions. If the bill is to be criticised these circumstances $3 is a ridiculous rate. for an honest effort to meet changes in commercial conditions, Mr. BAILEY. Now, the Senator from Rhode Island says the sooner we reSUII1e legitimate criticism the better it will he they are being imported, and, instead of replying to the state- for the American public. ment in the book on the desks of Senators, prepared uncer his Mr. BAILEY. Mr. President-- supervision, which shows that they were not imported to any Mr. ALDRICH. I ask that the item may go over. extent during the last year, he returns to several years before The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Texas yield that. What explanation does the Senator from Rhode Island further to the Senator from Rhode Island? offer to the Senate for the fact that they were not imported Mr. BAILEY. l\lr. President, none of us understand what last year? these retorts are. I think we must get an expert to teach us. I Mr. ALDRICH. I will tell the Senator very plainly why do not pretend to know, the Senator from Rhode Island evl.­ they did not appear to have been imported. They were im- dently does not know, and the Senator from Pennsylvania, who ported last year, but they were classified, under a decision of represents a great steel-producing State, and who is as attentive the general appraisers in New York, as "manufactures of as any Senator to the interests of his particular and immediate iron and steel not otherwise provided for." Those cases are constituents, does not seem to know, and it would be a wise ,,, still in court, awaiting a decision as to whether they should be thing to pass the item over. classified as gas retorts or as articles of iron and steel not Still, l\fr. President, I do not need to know the exact char­ otherwise provided for; and while they do not appear here, acter of a commodity or a device to know that when you levy a the importation of gas retorts has gone on just the same. It tax in this bill three times as great as the one in the old law, is a better classification to take them out of a class where they you have not kept your promise to the American people to certainly do not belong and put them into a class where they revise the tariff in the interest of the consumer, or downward, do belong. or to revise it. 1\fr. BAILEY. Mr. President, with respect to the item which I 1\Ir. ALDRICH. Mr. President, where did we ever make a we are now dealing with there is absolutely no change of classi- statement that we would revise the tariff downward? :ti.cation. It is a change purely and simply in rate, a change I l\fr. BAILEY. I did not say that. I made three statements. from a specific rate of $3 each on these gas retorts to an ad I said whether you would revise it downward or revise it in the valorem rate of 30 per cent. So the Senator from Rhode Island interest of the consumer or revise it. I was trying to cover the has not been giving his usual exact attention to what he states. Democratic and Republican statement, too; and certainly the 1\fr, President, there is no dispute that these gas retorts have Senator must have perceived that, when I said it in three differ­ been imported as gas retorts. The Senator from Rhode Island ent forms. I will ask the Senator if his party did not pledge states that there were more than 600 imported in 1904 and 1905. t.heruselves to revise the tariff? They stand on the statute bo_oks as gas retorts now, and subject l\Ir. ALDRICH. They agreed to revise the tariff upon the to a duty one-third of what it is proposed to impose by this bill. basis of rates which would equal the difference in cost of pro­ Consequently there can be no excuse, or certainly there can be duction between this country and abroad, with a reasonable no sufficient excuse, for any officer of the Government permit- profit. . · ting them to be imported under a classification which cheats the l\Ir. BAILEY. Yes; and there never was anything more ab­ Government, because they have been imported under the present surd, Mr. President, than for a grea~ political party to pledge designation in the old law. They are imported now; they were itself that men engaged in ~Y busrness shall have a profit. imported last year; they have been imported almost every year; Who guaran~ees to the ~erican farmer that he shall have a and still the Senator from Rhode Island says they are being profit upon ~s land or.his labor? Who guarantees to any other brought in under another classification or under another desig- people m this Rep.ublic that they shall have .a profit or th~t nation. If it be the purpose of the Senator to correct that, why t~ey shall b~ permitte.d by law to charge a price for commodi­ change the rate? Why multiply it by three? Why not provide ti~s or services that IDSures a profit? There never was any· that gas retorts shall not be imported under the classification thmg more ~bsurd than tha~ . . or description which he seeks to prevent? Oh, no; 1\fr. President, _Bnt that is not t:ie particular ma~ter which ~ now have. m the fact that the Government is being defrauded by the importa- mmd. The Republlc~m party proIIllSed to revise the tariff. , tion of these articles under another, a different and an improper Now, I put the question ~o the Senator from R~ode Island: .If name, does not either explain or justify an increase in the. duty they had told. the. American people. that th.ey mtended to. m­ when they are brought in under their honest name. There must crease the duties l!Dpose~ by the Dmgley bill, does be believe be, and there should be, an amendment which would prevent thesi: would haye been _giv~n power at the other end of the their improper classification, and you ought not to impose an in- Capitol to have made this bill at all?

creased duty on the honest men who brin~0 them in under their l\fr. ALDRICH. Does the Senator want an answer? proper name. · l\Ir. BAILEY. There is not a Senator here, there is not an Mr. ALDRICH. The gas retorts that are now imported ~telligent m~n in this country, who .will ~enture to say that weigh in the neighborhood of a ton each. They are made of if the Republican party had affirmed its behef that the pre ent very high-priced steel, with a great deal of labor. The existing law lev~ed duties too lo~ and that. they intende?- to .revise it law imposes a duty of $3 a ton on the very highest kind of steel and to mcrease those duties-there is not a man m this Cham­ with the added amount of labor, which, in view of the fact that ber who will stand up and say he believes that the American we propose to put 2.50 on pig iron, is, as I say again, a ridicu- people wou~d have elected a Republican majority to the other lous rate. At the time this rate was imposed these retorts were House of Congress. not more than 5 or G feet in length. They have multiplied the Mr. ALDRICH. · The people of the United States, if the Sen­ length of them for the purpose of evading the duty, and some ator will permit me, understood Yery well when the recent elec­ of them, as has been suggested, are now 30 feet long. Is the tion took place that the Republican party was a party of pro­ Sena te precluded from rectifying a manifest error in the act of tection-- 1807, and must they retain a duty which is one-half of the rate l\fr. BAILEY. That is true. imposed by the Wilson law? Is any such obligation as that Mr. ALDRICH (continuing). That it was bound to revise the resting upon anybody on either side of this Chamber? I think tariff fr.om a protective standpoint, and to make rates in every case not. to equalize the difference in the cost of production in thi country l\fr. DOLLIVER. l\Ir. President, I should like to ask the and in competing countries abroad, plus a reasonable profit. If Senator from Rhode Island, if these retorts are manufactured there is · ~my item fu this· bill as reported by the Finance Com- 1909. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE . . 1451 mittee that exceeds that rule or does not come up to it, it ought tainly is none too low, for under that rate as it stands in the to be made to conform to the rule. law to-day the importation of these devices is practically The Republican party holds the commission of the people of prohibited? the United States to revise the tariff upon those lines, and upon While I am on this subject, l\Ir. President, I will make this no other; and I should consider myself recreant to my trust I general observation, that I will be the last Senator to complain, if I did not follow implicitly those lines, let them strike where- here or elsewhere, of the substitution of an ad valorem for a ever they may. If there is a rate of duty in this bill that does specific duty. I believe-and the party to which I have the not give to the American producer of an article which is en- honor to belong has always taught-that men ought to pay titled to protection a guaranty of the difference in the cost of according to the value of that which they import, just as men production, I am for amending the bill whether the rate is the ought to pay direct taxes, according to the value of their prop- established rate or another. erty. That is the sensible arrangement, and I will never com- .Mr. LA FOLLETTE. l\Ir. President-- plain of the substitution of an ad valorem for a specific duty; The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Texas yield but I do criticise the committee, when it comes to make that to the Senator from Wisconsin? sensible and proper change, that it conceals in the change an l\Ir. BAILEY. Certainly. increase of the duty as compared with the present law of more Mr. LA FOLLETTE. I merely wish to ask the Senator from than 200 per cent. . Rhode Island at this point, if he will state to the Senate what Mr. ALDRICH. Mr. President, I have before me now a portion of the duty provided in this paragraph measures the statement which enables me to answer the suggestion of the difference in the cost of production in this and in other coun- Senator from Wisconsin [l\Ir. LA FOLLETTE]. About 30 or 40 tries, and what portion of duty is fixed as the measure of the manufacturers of gas retorts in the United States join in this reasonable profit, which he states was guaranteed by the Re- ·statement. It says: publican platform? · The schedule embracing these products compiled by the United States .Mr. ALDRICH. I shall be glad to furnish the Senate later Treasury Department shows an average cost of importations of about with those precise facts. I have not them before me now, but $12 per ton. American products of the same class cost about $18 per they have been submitted to the committee. Certainly it can ton at seaboard. not be more than 30 per cent difference, as the Senator from Mr. BAILEY. Will the Senator from Rhode Island tell me North Dakota [Mr. l\IcCuMBER] suggests, because there is only from what volume that is taken? a 30 per cent duty. But I will ask that this matter go over. Mr. ALDRICH. That is from the House hearings. l\Ir. BAILEY. Mr. President, I do not complain that the Mr. LA FOLLETTE. I was not able to hear at this ~s- Republican party revises the tariff ori the lines of protection. tance. The Senator did not read loud enough. I recognize that, while there were other elements entering into Mr. ALDRICH. The foreign cost is $12 a ton and the and determining the result, the American people at the last domestic cost of production is $18 a ton. Presidential election not only authorized, but directed, the Re- Mr. LA FOLLETTE. What portion of that duty measures publican party to revise the tariff; but, l\Ir. President, that com- to the producers in this country a reasonable profit? mission must be read and must be interpreted in the light of 1\Ir. ALDRICH. That is not profit at all; that is the differ- the condition which was well known to exist throughout the ence in the cost between this and foreign countries. length and breadth of this land, and that condition, well known Mr. LA FOLLETTE. I understand that that is the case, but to every Senator, was a well-nigh universal belief that under I understood the Senator from Rhode Island to say that the the existing tariff law duties were too high, and the demand tariff was being revised with a view of carrying out a pledge for the revision of the tariff proceeded from that part of the made by the Republican party to make the duty sufficiently American people that believed the rates of the present law too high to make up the difference in the cost of production and to high. There was no such demand from the Senator from Rhode add a reasonable profit. I wanted to know with respect to this Island; there was no such demand from the ardent protection- particular duty what portion of it measured the difference in ists in any section of the country. The demand came from such the cost of production and what portion of it was a fair meas­ Republicans-without making any invidious distinction-as the ure of a reasonable profit? Senator from Wisconsin [Mr. LA FOLLETTE], the Senator from l\Ir. ALDRICH. There was nothing said in the statement Iowa [l\Ir. CUMMINS], and the Republicans whom they repre- about profit on goods produced in this country. They say the sent and for whom they speak. That demand represented prac- cost of production abroad is $12 a ton, as against $18 in the tically the entire Republican party in the West, who, while United States. protectionists, are not extortionists; and the country under- l\Ir. LA FOLLETTE. Let me say to the Senator-- stood-and the Republican party intended for the country to Mr. ALDRICH. They furnish the details. If the Senator understand-that the promised revision of the tariff meant a will read the statement he will see- revision downward. l\Ir. LA FOLLETTE. Let me ask the Senator a question be- I fully realize that if the Republican party, when coming to fore he takes his seat. Did the Senator take the statement of a revision of the tariff on protective lines, should find a par- tllese interested parties as to the difference in the cost of pro­ ticular article imported to such an extent as to exclude the duction between this country and the competing country with­ domestic article, they would feel authorized, indeed they would ouf making any further investigation to ascertain whether it feel commanded, to raise the tariff rate so that at least that was a true statement or not? I article of domestic manufacture might fairly compete in the 1\Ir. ALDRICH. That is an investigation made by the Ways American markets with the foreign article; but, sir, it is and Means Committee. neither a full nor a fair redemption of the Republican pledge l\fr. LA FOLLETTE. I understand; but I assume from the to the country when they find an existing duty sufficient prac- Senator's having quoted it that the Finance Committee acted tically to exclude the foreign article from the American mar- upon that information as reliable. ket that they shall treble the present duty. Mr. ALDRICH. We acted upon that information and a The explanation of the Senator from Rhode Island does not great variety of other information which was submitted to us explain. He says that they changed the rate in this instance in other forms. from $3 ·each in the House bill to 30 per cent ad _valorem in Mr. LA FOLLETTE. But the Senator has quoted that as the Senate bill; but, sir, it was not necessary to make it an the information. If he has other information upon which he ad valorem as against a specific duty. All the Senator had to acted in fixing this duty, in addition to that which he has read do was to provide an ad valorem duty equal to that of the ex- from the House hearings, I am sure I should like to be en­ isting law, and the American manufacturer would have been lightened by it, and I believe other Senators would. protected in the sole and exclusive possession of the American Mr. ALDRICH. I assume the Senator from Wisconsin would market. · not expect me to rehearse here, on every item in this bill, all the The fact that the gas retorts formerly imported were of short information which has been presented to the committee in vari­ length and that those now imported are longer, the fact that ous forms upon any of these subjects. '.rhe Senator asks me if those formerly imported were worth $30 and those now im- I took the statement of these manufacturers. I have no inclina­ ported are worth $300, is, I grant you, an ample reason for tion myself to reject the statements of reputable American changing a specific duty of $3 each, because it is absurd to manufacturers, unless there is some evidence to the contrary of charge an American citizen as much for the privilege of im- their statements. If the Senator from Wisconsin, or any other porting $30 worth of merchandise as his neighbor pays for Senator, has any reason to suppose that these statements are the privilege of importing $300 worth of merchandise .of the untrue, the Senate undoubtedly would b(> very glad to hear same kind. But when you come to eliminate that injustice and them. to substitute an ad valorem for a specific duty, why were you Mr. ROOT. l\Ir. President-- not content to leave the duty as it stands in the present law, The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from Wisconsin still and allow these devices to be imported at that rate, which cer- has the floor. Does he yield t~ the Senator from New York? )

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Mr. LA FOLLETTE. Certainly. of the laborer of this country as against the poorly paid laborer Mr. ROOT. Mr. President, I perceive that we are discussing of Germany and other countries where similar clay is prepared. this subject upon a rather disproportionate basis. It is true Mr. BAILEY. Mr. President, I have just this answer to make that, on the basis of the importations for 1907, the specific duty to all that has been said here; and I particularly want to make of $3 upon these articles amounted to but a little over 10 per it to the observation of the Senator from New York [Mr. cent ad -valorem, but on examining the figures for the last four- RooT] : teen or fifteen years I find this to be the case : In 1894 the dul-y I can see no better or more potential reason against increas­ of $3 was imposed, and that amounted at that time to an ing this duty, even from the standpoint of a protectionist, than equivalent ad valorem duty of 20 per cent-nearly 21 per cent. the fact established by the record before every Senator, that The Wilson bill substituted 20 per cent ad valorem for the then the old duty of 10 per cent was sufficient to prevent serious and equi\alent specific duty. In 1898, when the $3 rate had been hurtful competition against the American manufacturer of this restored, upon the importations of that year the $3 rate was article during the last year. This report establishes the fact equivalent to an ad valorem duty of 20.70 per cent. So it con- that but 55 of these retorts were imported, that the value tinued in 1 9D-!j)3 was equivalent to an ad valorem duty of 20 of those 55 aggregated something like $1,600, that the reve­ per cent. · nue collected was $165; and yet, with the .American market But that relation has been gradually changing, owing un- so completely possessed by the American manufacturer, with doubtedly to the greater size and ·cost of the articles, as indicated American labor so completely supplying the demand for this by the Senator from Pennsylvania, until now, with the duty of device, without any reason except the greed of the men who $3 upon each retort, we have a duty equivalent to only a little manufacture it, appearing before the committee and declaring over 10 per cent ad valorem. that the cost here as compared with the cost abroad requires It is perfectly plain upon this history of the importation of this increase, the increase is made. these articles and upon the action taken by both the Republican But I come back to the main proposition-and no man can and the Democratic parties in regard to them that the duty ever escape it-that any duty which is sufficient to exclude the ought to be put back to at least 20 per cent ad valorem. There foreign article from the American market is high enough even can be no question whatever as between the two parties re- for the most ardent and honest protectionist; and whenever a garding that being a proper change, to meet the conclusions of duty, already sufficient to exclude the foreign competitor and both parties as applied to the changed conditions of importa- give the American market to the American manufacturer, is in­ tions. So the only thing we have to consider here is whether creased, it is increased not for the purpose of protecting the the duty shall be 20 per cent ad valorem or 30 per cent ad American workmen, but it is increased purely and only for the valorem, and upon that question the only figures of which I purpose of increasing the already enormous profit of the Ameri­ know are the figures that were produced upon the formal hear- can manufacturer. ing before the Ways and Means Committee of the House. If The VICE-PRESI DENT. The JJaragraph is passed over. any Senator who thinks the duty ought not to be more than The Secretary will resume the reading of the bill. 20 per cent has any facts to produce leading to a different con- The reading of the bill was resumed. The next amendment clusion from the testimony before the Ways and Means Com- of the Committee on Finance was, on page 23, after line 18, to mittee, I think the facts ought to be laid before the Senate; strike out the subhead "Glass and glassware." and if no Senator has any such facts in his possession, I think 1\Ir. LODGE. I do not understand that the whole paragraph we should pass on to the next paragraph in the schedule. was passed over; only the amendment. Mr. McCUMBER. .l\fr. President, I did not understand when The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Chair understood that the sug- we were considering this particular item that ther e was any gestion of the Senator from Texas was to pass the paragraph. raise o-ver the Dingley rates as applied when the old bill was Mr. LODGE. There is another amendment in the paragraph enacted. It was stated to us that the size and character of which I think can be disposed of. these retorts were such as to make them in reality about three 1\fr. ALDRICH. I ask that the paragraph be read. to four times as valuable as they were before-at the time of The VICE-PRESIDENT. It can be disposed of, but the spe- the Dingley rates. Therefore, when the Dingley rates were cial rule provided that where a request was made that a para­ upon a specific duty of $3, the rates to-day would not be more graph be passed over, it should be passed over. than about the equi\alent of that upon the value. In other Mr. ALDRICH. I ask that the paragraph be read. words, that the Dingley rates were at that time about 30 per The VICE-PRESIDENT. Without objection, the paragraph cent. If the rate now is but 30 per cent on the ad valorem, I will be read. there is no change. Of course there is a change between the The SECRETARY. On page 23, line 12, after the word " re­ Dingley rates as applied now and the article upon which those torts," it is proposed to strike out " $3 each" and insert " 30 rates are applied and the present rate, but I do not believe per cent nd valorem;" and in line 14, after the word" lighting," there is in reality any addition. In connection with the fact to strike out "35 per cent ad valorem " and insert "70 cents of the only testimony which is before us, that the difference per 100 feet," so as to read: between the cost of production abroad and at home is 33 per 94. Lava tips for burners, 10 cents per gross and 15 per cent ad valorem; cent, -we have given a duty of 3 per cent less than full protection. carbons for electric lighting, 70 cents per 100 feet; filter tubes, 35 per There may be other reasons why these are not imported,· but, cent ad valorem; porous carbon pots for electric batteries, without metallic connections, 20 per cent ad valorem. assuming that the cost of production in the old country has the same relation to the cost of labor, as it certainly bas, and that 1\Ir. BAILEY obtained the floor. the cost of production in this country has the same relation to The VICE-PRESIDENT. May the Chair inquire of the Sen.- the cost of labor, it is fair to presume that the basis upon the ator from Texas whether he intended to ask that the entire difference between the cost of labor in the old country and the paragraph be passed over or simply the amendment? cost of labor on this side of the ocean has been followed. in lUr. BAILEY. No, I did not; and I did not request that any fixing these ·clutie~ upon the basis of an ad valorem, which is of it should be passed. That request was made by the Senator 30 per cent, and which, in fact, does not raise the duty above from Rhode Island. the Di.ngley duty at the time the Dingley bill was enacted. I merely want to call the attention of the Senate to the fact Ir. SCOTT. ~Ir. President, the lining of these retorts is that in the first line they strike out a specific and substitute an made of clay, and that clay, for the purpose of holding properly, ad T"alorem duty, and in the fourth line in the same paragraph has to be prepared the same as we prepare clay for building a they strike out an ad valorem and substitute a specific duty. pot to melt glass in a glass fnrnace. The clay has to be strictly l\1r. ALDRICH, Mr. LODGE, and Mr. Sl\IOOT addressed the pure-without a particle of impurity in it. It is washed, then Chair. run through pug mills, and then turned and tramped by men Mr. BAILEY. That must be an easy question to answer, be· with tlleir bare feet for months before the clay is in proper cause this is the first time, I believe, that three Senators on condition to be used for the lining. the other side are eager to answer one question; and without As I understand th.is bill, we are trying to protect the Arneri- further comment I will hear what the Senator from l\Iassa­ can workman, the American laborer, as well as the other chusetts has to say about it. classes of our citizens. The largely increased sizes of the re- .l\fr. LODGE. Mr. President, there is nothing mysterious torts necessarily must take a great deal more labor to prepare about the fact that in one case it is an ad valorem duty and in the clay and line the steel jackets than it did when they were another case a specific duty has been substituted. In one case­ onJy small retorts; that did not amount to anything. the first case-a specific duty was grossly unfair and tlnjust. In l\lr. President, in my opinion the increase in this item is not the second case, the specific duty, which is a better form of too much, because of the increased size and the increased duty wherever it can be used, is the fair duty to impose. Un­ amount of labor that will necessarily be given to the work- der the Wilson bill there was a duty of 30 per cent imposed men of this country to prepare the clay for lining these retorts. on carbon for electric lighting. We had at that time in this I think the increased duty is a justifiable one in the interest country 10 per cent of the production of the carbons used. It 1909. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-·SENATE. 1453

did not increase under the 30 per cent ad valorem. When the Mr. LODGE. I do not think I used the words-- Dingley bill was passed, a duty of 90 cents per hundred was . Mr. BAILEY. I nave heard that one of them went into the imposed. It did not say "per hundred feet" or " per hundred hands of a receiver. pieces," but ·simply " per hundred." The intent UBdoubtedly Mr. LODGEJ. r do not think I used the words " rich .and was to put a duty of 9 mills on each carbon, the commercial prosper-0us." I said "great companies." I said "the poor size of which then was about 11 inches. It amounted to not consumers"-·- · quite a cent a foot. Under the Dingley duty the industry 1\Ir. BAILEY. But the emphasis on the word" .Poor" plainly sprang up in this conn.try; it developed very largely, and pro­ indicated that the Senator from Massachusetts did not think duced some 70 per cent of the total consumption, which I think, that the consumer w.as entitled to any sympathy, and without from my protectionist standpoint, was a good thing. A new in­ intending to discuss in the Senate Chamber the private affairs dustry was created, more opportunity for labor was gi;ven, an of any individual or corporation, I am under the impression industry entered into a new field. that one of the corporations to which he referred has passed But there occurred this doubtful language of " 90 cents per through a receivership, even under the prosperous times of a hundred," and our ingenious German competitors proceeded to Republican tariff. bring in carbons 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 feet long as one piece, and cut Mr. LODGE. That is undoubtedly true of the Westinghouse them into suitable lengths in this country. That was sustained Company, and if the purpose is to help them out by letting in the courts. The result under this foreign competition was them import cheap German carbon, the argument is complete. the reduction of our production from 70 per cent of the total The carbon is used in the arc lights. The carbons are used by to something like 50 per cent. Last year over 8,000,000 carbons street railway companies. They are of course manufactured for electric lighting were imported, and there was $73,000 of exclusively here of American material. They are manufactured reven.ue collected upon them. in great quantities, and are individually of small value. We Now, what the Senate committee has done, desiring that that ·have made a duty 20 cents less than the Dingley rate, and we industry should not be put out of existence as it is being put have given what appears to me only a fair protection to an · out under the present law, which amounts to 45 per cent ad American industry, because it has been shown that under the valorem, is to give them not what the Dingley rate gav:e, but Wilson rate the industry did not exist, and under the present .70 cents _J)er hundred feet, which makes a duty impossible of rate it has been declining. avoidance. Mr. BAILEY~ And this· is another increase as compared-­ Mr. WARREN. May I ask the Senator what is the di- Mr. LODGEJ. This is an increase over the House bill and a ameter? reduction on the Dingley Act. l\Ir. LODGE. The diameter is not given. Mr. BA.ILEJY. 1\ir. President-- Mr. WARREN. Was there no consideration of the diameter? The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. ScoTT in the chair). Does l\fr, LODGE. ~1<>; and it does not figure in the calculation. the Senator from Massachusetts yield to the Senator from The length is all that is necessary. Texas? Mr. McLAURIN. 1\lr. President-- Mr. BAILEY. I do not desire to interrupt the Senator from The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Massachu­ Massachusetts. I thought he was through. setts yield to the Senator from Mississippi? 1\lr. LODGE. No; I have not quite finished. Mr. LODGE. Certainly. This industry does not exist in my State, nor, so far as I Mr. McLAURIN. I desire to ask a question for informa·tion. know~ in New England. My attention was drawn to it when How much revenue did the· Government receive when 50 per it was taken up before the committee. It seemed to me-and cent of the consumption was of domestic manufacture? I looked into it with some thoroughness-that if there ever Mr. LODGE. Under the development of domestic manufac­ was a case where a protective duty was reasonably justifiable, ture the importation fell as low as two million four hundred it was in this case, and where the duty asked or tb.e duty given thousand, with a revenue of $21,000. That is, when the Amer­ by the Senate committee was an entirely reasonable and proper ican production had taken three-quarters of the market. After duty. I do not think thel'e is anything I can add to the :fig­ the change in the court, the next year it ro~e to six million ; ures, but the Senator from Ohio [Mr. BURTON], in whose State, then, in 1907, it was eight million; this year, which has been a I fuink, some of the principal factories in this industry are, no depressed year, it is seven millions and a half. doubt could add to what I have given, .as he knows the subject Mr. l\fcLAURIN. As I understand, then, when the American better than I · do~ article was aj: its greatest consumption in this country, the Mr. LA FOLLETTE. Before the Senator from l\Iassachu­ revenue derived from this article was smallest. setts takes his seat I should like to ask how many establish­ hlr. LODGE. It was, naturally. ments there are engaged in producing these carbons in this 1\fr. McLAURIN. When the American production was the country, if he has that inf-0rmation? least, the revenue derived was the largest? 1\lr. LODGE. I have it not here under my hand. There are Mr. LODGE. When the American production was the least, a number of ·factories, I do not know how many. I was in­ the revenue was the greatest. Of course, there were fluctua­ formed,· but it has escaped me for the moment. There ai·e a tions, according to the demands of business. considerable number scattered through the country. I dare Mr. McLAURIN. Then the people were paying this tax to say the Senator from Ohio [Mr. BURTON] can inform the Sena­ the manufacturers when 75 per cent of the consumption of this tor from Wisconsin, and has the details before him. country was produced here, and were paying it to the Govern­ Ir. BURTON. I will state that I have not the exact de­ ment when a less per cent was of domestic manµfacture. Is not tails. The largest establishment is in Cleveland. Tb.ere a.re that true? others in New Jersey, and -also in Indiana and Illinois. Mr. LODGEJ. Yes; the poor consumers, who in this case con­ l\fr. LA FOLLETTE. I should like to inquire if the only one sist of the Westinghouse Company and the General Electric is not that -0f Cleveland? Company and the street railway companies and the street light­ Mr. BURTON. Oh, no; by no means. ing companies-those poverty-stricken consumers-were paying ·Mr. LODGE. As far as Cleveland goes, I should state that more, undoubtedly. the manufacture of carbon is only 15 per cent of its business. l\lr. McLAURIN. It may be that they were wealthy con­ I took occasion to ask the president of the company when he sumers, but, whoever they were, they were paying a ta:x to the was here, and he said it was about 15 per cent of their business_ manufacturer of this article instead -Of a tax to the Government. It does not affect them very vitally, but it is much more im­ Mr. LODGEJ. I do not care to .enter into an economic ques­ portant to many of the other factories. tion which has been thrashed over a great many times. Of Mr. BAILEY. Mr. President, a. moment only. I want tbe course, I do not agree with the proposition of the Senator from Senator from Rhode Island to heal· this. A moment ago we Mississippi. had some slight disagreement as to the meaning of the pledge Mr. l\fcLAURIN. One word. I thought the Senator did which the Republican party made with respect to a revision of · agree with me. the tariff. I stated what I understood that pledge to mean, Mr. LODGE. I agree that the revenue was least when ·the and I further stated that I thought the country understood it American production was the highest. to mean what I did. I suppose the Senator could be excused Mr. McLAURIN. Yes. for refusing to accept my interpretation of a Republican pledge, Mr. LODGE. But with the deduction the Senator draws, I and J suppose he might be excused for doubting the accuracy do not agree in the least. with whieh I might determine the country's ·Opinion with re­ Mr. 1\fcLAURIN. It follows, in my judgment, as the night spect to it, but he will hardly question the right of the Presi­ follows the day. dent of the.United States, elected on that platform, to interpret Mr. BAILEY. I want to ask if the Senator from Massactm­ it. On the 4th of l\1arch, standing here in this p1.·esen.ce, he setts intends for us to understand that the only concerns in­ took the oath oi: office and delivered an address in which he terested are rich, prosperous companies? placed his construction upon the pledge which the Republican ~ 11454 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. APRIL 22, party had made the country. I desire to put it in the RECORD Army was a sufficient reason for voting the Republican ticket. and submit it for the enlightenment and information of the We have long since passed beyond the time for that appeal, Senator from Rhode Island. Here is it: either to men in the North Qr to men in the South. In both It is thought that there has been such a change in conditions since those great armies, beneath whose mighty tread this continent the enactment of the Dingley Act, drafted on a similarly protective trembled, there were men of opposing political convictions. principle, that the measure of the tariff above stated will permit the There was scarcely a Southern State that withdrew from the reduction of rates in certain schedules and will require the advance- ment of few, if any. Union except oyer the protests of many respectable Union So, l\Ir. President, I was not without warrant in saying that sympathizers. There was scarcely a State that adhered to the the Republican party meant, or at least it desired the country Union that did not send among it~ quota of troops some as bra·rn to understand that it meant, that the tariff revision which it and as loyal Democrats as any who lived in the South ·or in any promised the people was a revision toward the bottom and not other section of this Union. toward the top. If it took the Republican party to qualify a man for senice l\Ir. ALDRICH. Mr. President, I was a protectionist before I in the Union Army, then, sir, as I said a moment ago, the story the adoption of the Chicago platform. I expect to remain a of that conflict lllight be written in a different way. Your great­ protectionist as long as I shall live, because I believe that that est general and your bravest private soldiers were Democrats policy is the only correct policy for the people of the United before that war, and many of them have been Democrats since States to adopt and to maintain. that time. l\Ir. BAILEY. 1\1r. President, will the Senator permit me? In this period when we of the South are bein00 flattered with l\Ir. ALDRI H. Certainly. suggestions that we embrace the doctrines of the Republican Mr. BAILEY. Of course, I recognize the Senator's right-- party, it is a strange sound to fall from the lips of the Repub- 1\Ir. ALDRI H. I should like to yield only for a question. Hean leader of the Senate to haye this appeal to a sectionalism I do not want to yield further than that. which ought to have been buried a quarter of a century ago. l\fr. BAILEY. I just wanted to remind the Senator that he Does the Senator expect to justify these departure not only . told the Senate the other day that he remembered the time, from his own profession, but the professions of his party made as I understood it, when he was a Democrat. before the country, by an appeal like that? It was no answer l\Ir. ALDRICH. No; never. for the Senator from Rhode Island, in testifyin(l' to his con- 1\Ir. BAILEY. Well, I thought you said you remembered tinual error, to stigmatize the memory of the Democrats who when your Democratic ancestors-- fought, and bravely fought, in the Union Army. He had u right l\Ir. ALDRICH. Democratic ancestors, but I never cast a to say that he neyer ·rnted until he entered the army, and he vote prior to 1861, when I became a member of the Union had a right to say that he had voted the Republican ticket Army, and from that time to this I have never ceased to be a from that day to thi , because it is every man's individual right Republican in every part of my nature, and a protectionist. to begin wrong and to persevere in being wrong. I do not ques- 1\Ir. BAILEY. Membership in the Union Army did not neces- tion that. But it comes with bad grace for him to lay upon the sarily make a man a Republican. memory of as brave a lot of men as ever marched to battle l\fr. ALDRICH. I think it did, if he lived north of Mason the imputation that Republicanism and Unionism were synony- and Dixon's•line- mous. They were not. 1\Ir. BAILEY. l\Ir. President, that is an affront to many 1\Ir. President, I have supposed that in this time, instead of thousands of brave men who were Democrats before the war an appeal to prejudices which I rejoice to sny no longer exist and Democrats after its smoke had cleared away. El."

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The VICE-PRESIDENT. Paragraph 95 has been disposed Coming down, now, to fibers, textile grasses, and so forth, of; at least, it has been read without any request being made unmanufactured raw material, the duty is 10.67 per cent; on the that it should be passed over. manufactured goods it is 35.03 per cent; on fish it is 1 .13 per Mr. STONE. Mr. President, I rise at this time to make an cent; on fruits and nuts it is 34.09 per cent. inquiry of the Senator in charge of the bill. I am just in re­ Mr. HALE. Is the Senator giving the rates under the Dingley ceipt of a letter from very considerable establish­ law?· ments in St. Louis engaged in making bottles of different kinds, Mr. NELSON. I am giving the rates under the Dingley law. in which it is stated that during the last fiscal year something I am giving the ad valorem rates taken from the Statistical like 41,000,000 bottles containing malt liquors, mineral waters, Abstract of 1897. champagne, still wines, and articles of that kind came in with­ Furs and manufactures of furs, 21.36 per cent; glass and manufac­ out paying duty in any ~orm and were subsequently refilled and tures of glass, 53.22 per cent; iron and steel manufactures, 28.83 per used in this country. Can the Senator tell me whether bottles cent. containing liquors of that kind do come in without the payment That is really one of the lowest schedules under the existing of any tax? law, taking the iron and steel schedule as an entirety, and yet Mr. SMOOT. l\fr. President-- the Committee on Finance have been good enough to cut down The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Missouri that in many respects, in some items like steel rails about yield to the Senator from Utah? 50 per cent. l\Ir. STONE. Certainly. Now, coming to jewelry and precious stones-and here is a Mr. Sl\IOOT. Mr. President, I suppose the letter which the curiosity-the average rate is only 11.94 per cent. Senator has received refers more to mineral waters than to Mr. ALDRICH. The Senator must be mistaken as to that. othe1;s. That matter will be found in section 309 of the bill. 1\fr. NELSON. No; I am not. I have the figures here, and It is desired that a duty be placed upon bottles. It is a long certainly there is no mistake in them. story, and if the Senator will let it rest until section 309 is Mr. ALDRICH. The duty on diamonds is 10 per cent. reached, I shall be glad to explain it to him. l\Ir. 1\'lDLSON. This includes diamonds. It is averaged in l\Ir. STONE. I had no idea of taking time at this point in a this statement-jewelry and diamonds combined. discussion of it. I want to know the fact simply whether bot­ Mr. ALDRICH. The duty on diamonds is 10 per cent, and on tles of that description are admitted without the payment of jewelry 50 per cent. any duty. Mr. NELSON. Jewelry and precious stones are all in one Mr. SMOOT. Under the exact wording of the law you can class, and the duty of 11.94 per cent is the average rate on thosl} not say how much the duty is on the mineral water and how articles. much on the bottles containing it; but we are asked to advance 1\Ir. CULBERSON. 1\fr. President-- the rate of $1.60 on a case of pints of mineral water to $3.60, or 1\Ir. NELSON. The imports for 1907 amounted to $32,000,000, an increase of 92 per cent, it being stated that that is to cover and the average rate was only 11.94 per cent. the bottle. When we reach that paragraph, however, I shall be The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Minnesota very glad to explain the matter to the Senator. yield to the Senator fi·om Texas? Mr. STONE. Very well. Mr. NELSON. Certainly. The Senator from Texas will par­ l\lr. GALLINGER. l\Ir. President, I suggest that the next don me. I did not know that he was asking me a question until paragraph be passed over. the fact was called to my attention by the Chair. The VICE-PRESIDENT. Paragraph 96 is passed over. The 1\fr. CULBERSON. I simply rose, J\fr. President, to ask the Senator fi·om New Hampshire now asks that paragraph 97 be Senator from Minnesota a question for information. I under­ passed over. That paragraph will be passed over. stood him to be reading from the Statistical Abstract that Mr. ORA. WFORD. Was paragraph 95 passed over? the ayerage ad valorem duty on cotton manufactures was 53 The VICE-PRESIDENT. Paragraph 95 has been disposed of. per cent. Mr. ORAWFORD. Has it been agreed to? Mr. NELSON. On cotton and manufactures of cotton, 53.38 The VICE-PRESIDENT. It has been. per cent. .Mr. HALE. What became of paragraph 96? Mr. CULBERSON. There seems to be some discrepancy The VICE-PRESIDENT. It was passed over at the request there. of the Senator from Minnesota [Mr. NELSON]. 1\fr. NELSON. How? 1\Ir. NELSON. l\Ir. President, in many respects this bill re­ Mr. CULBERSON. In the estimated revenues furnished us ported by the Committee on Finance meets with my approval, by the committee the average rate on cotton manufactures is and I think that the committee deserve great credit for many of 44.68 per cent, and the committee has increased that to 47.04 the changes they have made in it. I realize the fact that it is per cent. no easy task to revise the tariff, and I think we Republicans are 1\Ir. NELSON. I am reading from the Statistical Abstract all agreed about one principle, which is, that those industries for 1907. which need protection should have a reasonable amount of pro­ Mr. BEVERIDGE. The Senator is reading from the present tection, sufficient, at all events, to enable them successfully to law. compete with foreign producers and to control, as far as pos­ Mr. NELSON. Take the year 1907, a most prosperous year, sible, the home market. Whenever you go beyond that figure, the year which the Senator from Rhode Island [Mr. ALDRICH] Mr. President, you build up what is called in common parlance has made the basis for his comparison as to rates. in this country a "trust;" you enable parties who get extraordi­ Mr. CULBERSON. I was calling the attention of the Sen­ nary protection to levy tribute upon the American people beyond ator to the discrepancy between the figures which he reads and the necessities of business. those furnished us by the committee. To my mind-perhaps I may be a heretic on this subject­ Mr. BEVERIDGE. I think the Senator from Minnesota is whenever we offer an industry a higher rate of protection than reading from the present law. that indush-y is fairly entitled to have, we enable that industry Mr. NELSON. I am reading from the statement for the fiscal to levy tribute upon the American people; and indirectly we year 1907. do a great wrong. We are all opposed, or supposed at all Mr. CULBERSON. I am reading from what purports to be events to be opposed, to trusts and monopolies levying tribute the present law, and the average rate is 44.68 per cent on cotton on the American people. While that is the creed of all of us, manufactures under t:tie Dingley law, and 47.04 is the duty we ought in its practical application to do what we can to pre­ under the proposed bilJ, showing an increase by the proposed vent the formation, directly or indirectly, of such trusts and bill, and not only an increase, but a discrepancy between. the monopolies; e ought to prevent any class of men, no matter figures furnished us by the committee and those read by the in what calling or profession, from getting mor~ than their just Senator from Minnesota. due and their just protection. Mr. S~fOOT. Mr. President-- While I think in some respects the Committee on Finance Mr. NELSON. I read from the Statistical Abstract for 1907. have done exceedingly well, especialJy in the iron and steel The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Minnesota schedule-and I want to congratulate them on that-let us take yield to the Senator from Utah? other schedules. I read from the Statistical Abstract of 1907, Mr. NELSON. I will after I have read this: in which there is given, on pages 506, 507, 508, 509, 510, oll, and The average rate for the fiscal year ending 1907 on all importations 512 the amount of imports, each class being classified and the of manufactures of cotton was 53.38 per cent. ad ;.alorem rate given upon the class. I read this, as it is very The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Minnesota instructive: now yield to the Senator fi·om Utah? On animals the ad valorem rate was 20.82 per cent ; on breadstuffs, 34.54 per cent ; on chemicals and drugs, 24.88 per cent; on cotton and Mr. NELSON. Certainly. I meant to state that I was reading the manufactures of cotton, 53.38 per cent; on earthen, stone, and from the Statistical Abstract for 1907, though, perhaps, I may china ware, 58.56 per cent. have misstated the year. I refer, however, to the fiscal year 1907. 1909._ CONGRESSIONAL REOORD-SEN:A.·TE. !1457i

Mr. SMOOT. - I was just going to call the attention of the in any respect to effect ap.y particular reduction ·in the four Senator to the fact that it was the year 1907, rather than the schedules to which I have referred. These industries, ot year 1897, as he stated. cotton manufacturing, woolen manufacturing, glass manufactur­ Mr. NELSON. That was a mistake. ing, and·earthen, stQne, and china ware manufacturing, have been l\1r. SMOOT. Yes. under high protection for years. The statistics show that they 1\lr. NELSON. I trust the Senator will not make an argu­ practically control the market. There were in 1907 twenty-two ment because of a slip of the tongue. million dollars' worth of woolen goods imported into this 1\Ir. SMOOT. No; not at all. I was simply going to call the country, practically showing that we have a complete monopoly attention of the Senator from Minnesota to the fact that the of the home market. That is all right; but why should we figures that were quoted by the Senator from Texas [Mr. CUL­ continue this excessive duty? The paragraph that I have BERSON] were for the fiscal year ending 1906, and those quoted asked to have passed over provides an ad valorem rate of 60 by the Senator from Minnesota-- per cent. 1\Ir. NELSON. I can give the Senator from Utah the state­ It seems to me, Mr. President, after all these years of pro­ ment of the ad valorem rates if that is what the Senator wants. tection; after all these years of a complete conh·ol and monop­ -They were a trifle higher because prices of goods were a little oly, as it were, of the home market, that some of these indus­ higher. The rate was 54 per cent, and in 1907 it was 53.38 per tries ought, by and by, to be satisfied with less protection. Why cent. should these four industries--cotton manufactures, glass, These are the statistics annually prepared by the Bureau woolen goods, and earthenware-be given an advantage over of Statistics. Oftentimes it takes almost a year before the others? There are no other duties provided for in the bill that statements are completed. They are carefully prepared and are higher or as high as the duties on these articles, unless it are more reliable' than the statement which has been prepared be those on malt liquors, distilled spirits, wines, and so forth. for this particular emergency on the spur of the moment. The duty on malt liquors is practically not any higher than The duty on jewelry and precious stones is 11.94 per cent; that on glass, but the duties on distilled spirits and cigars are on leather and manufactures of leather, 30.93 per cent; meat somewhat higher. But, Mr. President, with the exception of and dairy products, 33.45 per cent; on malt liquors, 54.32 per the duties on the three articles I have named, which here, as cent; spirits, distilled, 121.74 per cent; wines, 51.60 per cent in all other countries, are considered fair objects of revenue­ Then on the combination of wines, spirits, and malt liquors, malt liquors, spirits, and tobacco-there are no duties that are 73.14 per cent; on oils of all kinds, 30.44 per cent; on paints, so monstrously high as those in the four schedules to which I pigments, and colors, 31.lS per cent; on paper and manufac­ have referred. tures of paper, 25.46 per cent; on rice, 31.73 per cent; on silk I speak as a Republican. I need not come here like the and manufactures of silk, 52.68 per cent; on sugar, confection­ Senator from Iowa [Mr. CUMMINS] and the Senator from ery, and molasses, 65.03 per cent; on tobacco and manufactures Rhode Island [Mr. ALDRICH] and speak of my political lineage of tobacco, 87.19 per cent; on toys, dolls, and so forth, 35 per or anything of that kind. I do not know much about it. Very cent; on vegetables, 34.17 per cent; on wool and manufactures of likely my ancestors were Norwegian pirates. [Laughter.] _ wool, ordinary duty, 14..21 per cent; on wool, unmanufactured, I wish, however, to say to the Senator from Rhode Island that 40.93 per cent; on manufactures of wool, 89.42 per cent. I have fought as many hard battles for the Republican party in I will insert the entire statement, taken from the Statistical the State of Minnesota as he has ever fought in Rhode Island Abstract of 1007, in my remarks for convenience of reference. or in any part of New England; and I think that a man, no The statement referred to is as follows: matter where he may live, who stands for a higher rate of duty Avemge aa v alo1·em rate, 1907. than is justified by the fair and just principles of protection is Per cent. a greater enemy to the Republican party than any enemy you Animals------20.82 can possibly find on the other side of the Chamber. That is Breadstuffs------34.54 Chemicals, drugs, etc______24. 88 the reason I asked that this schedule be passed over. Cotton and manufactures------53.38 I trust that some reduction will be made in the schedules I Earthen, stone, and china ware------58. 56 Fibers, textile grasses, etc., unmanufactured______10. 67 have mentioned. It is curious, Mr. President, to see how the Fibers, textile grasses, etc., manufactured______35. 03 high-protected manufacturers always crawl behind the laboring Fish------18. 13 man. They forget that it is the law of supply and demand that 'Fruits and nuts------34.09 governs the matter of labor. The laboring man is not pro­ GlassFurs andand manufactures------manufactures ______:____ 53.21. 3622 tected. This country can be flooded with emigrants from the Iron and steel and manufactures------28. 83 Old World and the labor market overcrowded. The laboring Jewelry and precious stones______11. 94 man has no protection. His wages are based upon the law of Leather and manufactures------30. 93 Meat and dairy products------33. 45 supply and demand. Have you not evidence of that fact in :M:alt liquors------54. 32 the panic of 1907? Before that panic occurred wages were 1 perhaps higher than they had ever been in this country in re­ ~~!~~-~~-~~~~======Spirits, wines, and malt liquors, combined______73.~i:i6 14 cent years. During the past year there has been a general re­ Oils of all kinds------30. 44 duction in wages. All this occurred under the same tariff law­ PaperPaints, andpigments, manufactures and colors------______31.25.46 18 the Dingley law-which was in force in 1907, the same as in Rice------31.73 1908. Why the reduction in wages? The reduction in wages Silk and manufactures------52. 68 came because there was a superabundance of labor and a com­ Sugar, confectionery, and molasses______65. 03 parative scarcity of work. You can not, however, charge that IT'obacco and manufactures------87. 19 condition to any tariff legislation. The panic that came in 1907 had as its storm center Wall street, and it had no connec­ ~~~~t:at~~:~-~t:======::Wool and manufactures, ordinary duty______R~:f~14. 21 tion with our protective tariff. It arose there; the first visible M:anufacturesWool, unmanufactured------of wool ______40.9389.42 spark grew out of the copper corner, and the raid upon the Heinze bank there, and then it spread like a prairie fire set by Mr. NELSON. l\!r. President, there has been practically no a hunter or a trapper or an Indian. I apprehend that the men reduction in rates. In a few instances there have been trifling who started that :fire have lived to regret what they had done. cuts; in a few other instances there have been slight increases. We have all had to suffer for it; but we are not suffering for Take these schedules: Cotton and manufactures of cotton, 53.38 the lack of protective duties. Prices in some cases have gone per cent; earthen, stone, and china ware, 58.56 per cent; glass down slightly within the last year, but that has been because and manufactures of glass, 53.22 per cent; manufactures of of the diminished demand. ,wool, 89,42 per cent. Of all the schedules of this bill the high­ est by all odds in every way, taking them in the aggregate and The only way we can build up our counh·y again, the only in detail, are these four S{'hedules-cotton; earthen, stone, and way we can make the .American people a happy and contented china ware; glass; and the manufactures of wool. people, is to give a fair and reasonable protection to every in­ I am wel~ aware, 1\fr. President, that it is easier to criticise dustry that needs it, but not one particle more. Give them all than it is to build up, but I can only say-- they fairly need; but when you step beyond that point you ha-re Mr. NEWLANDS. Mr. President-- no justification. The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Minnesota Why should the four · classes of manufactures I have men­ yield to the Senator from Nevada? tion~ be protected to the extent provided in this bill? If you Mr. NELSON. I will yield to the Senator in a moment, when travel around the country, you will not :find millionaire farm­ I have finished my sentence. ers; you will not :find millionaire cattle raisers. Where do I can only say to the members of the Committee on Finance you find the millionaires? I do not :find any fault because that I am greatly disappointed that they have made· no effort men becom~ millionaires; I do not enyY them; I do not criticise XLIV-92 1458 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. APRIL 22, them; but I call attention to the fact that it is in the protected Hampshire. You can ·not charge that. Would you charge the industries more than any others that you find millionaires. panic of 1907 to the Dingley tariff law? Mr. GALLINGER. Mr. President-- Mr. GALLINGER. The Senator said it was a Wall street The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Minnesota panic; that it had no reference to our-- yield to the Senator from New Hampshire? . Mr. NELSON. I am putting the Senator from New Hamp­ Mr. NELSON. Certainly; I yield for anything. shire on the stand. Mr. GALLINGER. I want to · ask the Senator if he bas Mr. GALLINGER. I will take the Senator's statement on reached a conclusion as to how great a cut, for instance, should that point. He probably knows what he is talking a.bout. He be made in the duty on wool and woolens? says it was precipitated by Wall street-for the purpose of the Mr. NELSON. I called attention to the duty on woolens. . If millionaires of Wall street. I do not know. the Senator from New Hampshire will bear with me, I will say Mr. NELSON. What is the Senator's opinion? that I think the duty on raw wool, on scoured wool, and on Mr. GALLINGER. I have no opinion about it. washed wool could well bear a fair reduction; but just how . If the Senator will permit me, I wish to call his attention to much I do not know. What I criticise more particularly-and the fact that the stagnation which he admits existed fro.m 1 94 I call the attention of the Senator from New Hampshire to the to 1897 very rapidly disappeared when we passed the Dingley fact-is the duty on woolen manufactures. The protection on tariff law and men were given employment. Then our mills raw wool is only 40.93 per cent, whereas the protective duty on were opened. Every woolen mill in New Hampshh·e and manufactures of wool is 89.42 per cent, almost 50 per cent more throughout New England beO'an giving employment to men. duty on manufactured wool than on the raw material .Mr. NELSON. That helped us. Mr. GALLINGER. Well, Mr. President, that discrepancy~ I Mr. GALLINGER. Yes. think, will be found in every schedule. I want to say to the Mr. NELSON. But in the meantime we disposed of the silver Senator that we -all remember the agitation for reduced duties question by the election of l\fcKinley. on wool that occuned a few years ago. We had a very great Ur. GALLINGER. Yes. reduction made in the woolen schedule. It was bailed with joy l\fr. NELSON. We had buried forever the doctrine of free all over the counti·y as an improvement in our tariff legislation, silver, and that more than anything else-more than ta.riff legis­ and it was clajmed in Demoeratic circles tbat it would greatly lation-restorecl confidence to the American people. redound to the benefit of the working people. Now, let tbe Senator from Kew Hampshire be a little candid. .Mr. NELSON. I want to remind the Senator that that is The facts were that the business world in 1894, 1 05, and 1896 exactly the same spirit that actuates New Englund now in ask­ was afraid of silver monome:talli m. The money of the country ing for free hide. They want free raw material . went into hiding-was p.ut away in old stockings and bureaus, Mr. GALLINGER. The result of that agitation and that and not put into active u e-because tile men who held the legislation, Mr. President,. was that every woolen mill in New money had the fear that if Bryanism and free silver prevailed, Hampshire closed its doors, and every workingman in those mills thev wonld hav-e to take the money back in depreciated dollars.. was out of employment. I do not know that the Senator wants Mr. GALLINGER. But, .Mr. President-- a reduction equal to what was made in the Wilson tariff law. Mr. NELSON. But as soon as it was announced that :Mc­ Mr. NELSON. Let me ask the- Senator if he does not think Kinley had been elected and that we would stamp out the silver that the manufactures of woolen goods can bear a reduction heresy and settle upon a sound financial basis, prosperity began from the pre ent duty of 89.42 per cent? to come to the cormtry, even after election day, six months be­ Mr. GALLINGER. I do not know how that may be; I have fore we enacted our law. not made a very careful inquiry into it. I know, however, that l\Ir. SCOTT. The Senator is surely aware that the silrnr the woolen industry is not very prosperous at the present time question was not an issue in 1892, 1893, and 1894. in New England, notwithstanding the Senator may think to the Mr. NELSON. I say in 1896. contrary. But I do know that we had disaster, so far as the Mr. SCOTT. We bad the panic before that; that is, one woolen industry was concerned and so far as the sheep-raising panic. That di poses of yom· argument in that respect. industry was concerned. under the agitation for low duties on Mr. GALLINGER. If the Senator- will permit me-and that wool and woolen goods from 1894 to 1897, and we do not want is the onJy observation I care to mairn--it is to my mind a n~w to see that condition repeated. theory which the Senator evolves, that our troubles :from 1893 Mr. NELSON. You can lay a good deal to the tariff of 1894. to 1897 were due to the agitation of silver monometallism. I It was not altogether the tariff of 1894 that brought about the think it had as much to- cJo. with it as the last eclipse of the hard times. They came largely from the financial panic that moon. occurred in 1893. Let us be fair and candid. While the tariff Mr. NELSON. What about the moon? [Laughter.} cut some figure, it was the panjc in 1 93 that brought stagna­ l\fr. GALLINGER. I will repeat it for the Senator's benefit. tion, just as in the case of the panic of 1007, from which we are I think the silver question had as much to do with the depres,.. still suffering. Can you ascribe that suffering and what oc­ sion in business, after the en-actment of the Wilson tariff bill, curred in the panic of 1907 to the tariff law? The Dingley law as the last eclipse of the moon, and nothing more. has been in force during an that time. The truth is, and history bears it out, tbat our rates of duty Mr. GALLINGER. Mr. President, conditions were very dif­ were reduced beyond the protective point Our industries went ferent. The Senator himself said that the panic of 1907 was out of existence; our workingmen were thrown out of employ­ a financial panic., and I understood him to suggest that it orig­ ment; and we had disaster such as I think the Senator does inated in Wall street. It is a pretty well-known historical fact not want to see re·peated. that the conditions that existed from 1894 to 1897 were due to What I rose in the first place to ask the Senator-and I did the ta1·iff law that was put on the statute book by the Demo­ ask the Senat&r-was whether he had made a very careful cal­ cratic party. culation as to what rate of duty on woolen goods, tor instance, Mr. NELSON. Not wholly. We had a panic in 1893, a mone­ would be an adequate protective tariff? I am satisfied to tary panic, more acute in some· respects and lasting longer than take-- the panic of 1007, growing out of the silver- issue. Mr. NELSON. Has the Senator from New Hampshire made Mr. GALLINGER. And · when that panic occurred it was up his mind that it must be 89 per cent? well understood that we were to have a Democratic tariff law, Mr. GALLINGER. Will the. Senator let ·me answer him? which we had and which brought · about the condition I sug­ Mr. NELSON. Yes; and has the Senator from New Hamp­ gested. shire made an exact-- Mr. ?lf'cLAURIN. Mr. President-- Mr. GALLINGER. The Senator's: impetuosity interrupts my The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator :from Minnesota speeeh. I wish to say to the Senator that I am willin'7 to take yield to the Senator fi-6m Mississippi? · the combined wisd91U of the Republican members of the Com­ l\Il'. NEJ,SON. Let ine answer the Senator from New Hamp­ mittee- on Finance. They know more about it than I do. I shire. While I do not justify the law of 1894, I want to be fair think they know as much about it as the Senator from Minne- enough and manly enough to say that all ot the stagnation that , rota does,· and I accept their conclusion, believing it just about prevailed during those dreary years from 1893 to 1897 and 1898 right. was not altogether owing to that law. It was more owing to Mr. McLAURIN. Mr. President-- th.e vicious condition under which bur currency ·existed. It The VICE-PRESIDE.:.~T. Does the Senator from Minnesota was on account of that as much as on account of the tariff. yield to the Senator from Mississippi? Mr. GALLINGER. Mr. President-·- Ir. '.NELSON. Certainly. I am ready to yield: to everybody. Mr. NELSON. Let me answer the Senator from New Hamp­ l\Ir. McLAURIN. The time has pa sed, but because of the shire further. I would no more think of charging the Dingley statement made by the 'Senato!'" from New Hrunpsliire as to the tariff with the panic of 1907 than ·would the Senator from New , tar~ on wool in the Wilson bilI in 1894, I wanted to interject 1909. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 11459

the remark that when the tariff bill of 1894 was before the porters. For instance, take a tumbler or a pitcher or a dish­ Senate, the strongest advocate of free wool in the Senate was it matters not what-and you are going to make a cut article understood by me, and I think by the country generally, to be out of it. The first thing that is necessary is to blow a blank. the largest sheep raiser in the United States-Senator Vest, of Of course that is Dutch to some of you, at least. Then, when Missouri. you want to cut it, it is put on a wheel and roughed-what we Mr. SCOTT. He got over it. call" roughed" after the pattern is marked out. Then it is taken Mr. McLAURIN. Never, till he died. to another wheel, and there the sand mark of the outline of the 1\Ir. SCOTT. Mr. President, the Senator from Minnesota, in cutting is taken out. From that it goes through another proc- attacking this bill, includes in his remarks the duties that the es -what we call "smoothing" or on a crag-leaf stone. From committee has placed upon glass. I -desire to ask the Senator that it goes to an additional wheel, called the "smoothing from Minnesota if he can remember the time when his good wheel," which polishes it, and then it goes to the glass cutter's old mother, if living in this country, paid as much as $4 for a putty wheel. glass pitcher; and it was set away and brought out only on the While there was a classification of common glass at a less Sabbath, to be exhibited to visitors who might be calling at the rate of duty, the importer in New York would have that article house? roughed; he would have it put on the second stone ; he would Mr. NELSON. I am ready to answer the question. My have it put on the third stone. There it was, 90 per cent of mother is still living, but I doubt whether we could afford the the cutting done upon that article. He would bring it in as luxury of a glass pitcher in those days. common glass, take it to a glass cutter, polish it, and have a Mr. SCOTT. I want to say that the Senator's mother and finished article. That was the great injustice done to the manu­ the Senator himself to-day can afford the luxury of a glass facturers of this counti·y; and I am glad that this provision of pitcher. I will show him why; and it is through the workings the bill is just as it is, and it is only right and only fair, not of a protective tariff. only to the manufacturers of glass, but to the consumer, Mr. ·wnen I first became interested in the glass business there President. was no duty upon glass. What was the result? We had men I appeal for justice to the consumer, because that enables us in the factories who were working f-rom ten to twelve hours a to produce and to give them an article at a lower rate than if day, and they got what? One dollar; and if we had the money, we did not have that protection. we paid them. If we did not have, we gave them an order on urther along, Mr. President, I shall perhaps have something the store. When we got a protective tariff on glass, what did se to say on this subject. we do? We brought the price of $4 for an individual pitcher Mr. DOLLIVER. Mr. President, I do not wish to be put in down to $1.25 for a dozen. Why? Because of the protective the attitude of criticising the earthenware and glass schedule. tariff of 60 per cent, and nothing else. Within my own lifetime those industries have been built up in I will show you about the wage. The day for doing that same the United States, and nothing has more completely illustrated work to-day is eight hours a day. Take a man who works in the practical wisdom of our theory of protection than these in.­ my factory at home, and what does he get? He gets from dustries. I have been especially glad to see them grow be­ $2.25 to $4 a day, as the case may be; and we have 60 per cent. cause of two things. In the first place they deal with a very Why? The Senator said we were demagogues in saying we crude and primitive material, everywhere abundant in the were doing this for the workingman. I say when he makes United States. The entire business is a labor proposition; and that charge he does not know what he is talking about. then again they are in a sense manual industries. I do not I have employed labor in the glass business ever since the think very much progress has been made in the substitution of civil war. If I know anything about any particular thing in automatic machinery for the old-fashioned methods of producing the world, it is the glass business. It was the protective tariff glass and pottery. The industi·ies have grown in the United put on in this country which enabled us to pay the man double States, and they ougpt to grow, because there is hardly a part wages for less hours and to reduce the price of glass. of our country which is not filled with an abundance of this The very goblet the Senator uses in his home, which prob- material. ably cost him from a retail dealer a dollar a dozen, we sell at Seeing that the industry has been established, seeing that it the factory for 35 cents a dozen, and before we had a tariff on has grown up and fulfilled all the prophecies that we have made it we had to sell them at $2.25. with respect to it, seeing that we make now, out of the common Mr. President, what is the use of Senators talking here about clay, earthenware and pottery useful and ornamental and beau­ something they know absolutely nothing about? The tariff is tiful, and seeing that this glass industry has gone into nearly not a tax. The tariff-- every section in. the United States, tbe only question I have V Mr. DOLLIVER. Mr. President-- had is whether we might not with wisdom and without damag- The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from West Vir- ing the protective doctrine remit somewhat these duties, if for ginia yield to the Senator from Iowa? no other purpose than to give an advertisement of the influence I Mr. SCOTT. Certainly. . and effect of our protective system and philosophy. " Mr. DOLLIVER. Recognizing that the Senator from West I do not think the tariff doctrine gains any strength from an Virginia knows a great deal about glass, I should like to ask ironbound application, generation after generation, of the same him what effect the improvement in machinery and the use of 1 schedules, unless it can be shown that the same conditions pre­ cheaper fuel have had on the cost of in the vail. I have thought that within the last twenty years this United States? industry might, in some parts of the glass schedule at leas4 Mr. SCOTT. I will answer the Senator that in the cheaper submit to some reduction without damaging the industry in classes of tumblers, for putting up jellies, it has been reduced; the United States at all. but they are selling at 17 cents a dozen. The Senator could not Mr. SCOTT. Will the Senator allow me for a moment? want them much less than that, when the amount of labor in Mr. DOLLIVER. Certainly. producing a piece of glass to-day is 85 or 90 per cent. . Mr. SCOTT. How would the Senator suggest to take care of \t Mr. DOLLIVER. I do not desire to suggest-certainly not the skilled workmen of this country, in comparison with the now-any change in these duties, but I have heard from the wages paid to the glass blower of Germany, for the glass blower fathers in the Republican party that improved methods of pro- in Germany gets 4 marks for working from fourteen to sixteen duction would gradually enable us to produce the articles at hours a day, when in the United States we pay for the same such a reduced price that the time might come when some reduc- class of work $2.25 to a man who works eight hours a day. tion of the duties could be made. I have visited glass fac- Would the Senator, in his reduction of the duty, compel me tories in the natural-gas regions of the West and in Pennsylva- to reduce the wages of the men in my factory to a parity with nia, and it occurred to me that the industry was not on exactly the wages paid by the manufacturer in Germany, who, for work- the same basis that it was twenty years ago. ing longer hours, pays less than half of the price we pay? Mr. SCOTT. I should like to ask the Senator from Iowa Mr. DOLLIVER. I made no suggestion of that sort. if he wants a greater reduction? Mr. SCOTT. If we reduce the duty and this cheaply made ....,, Mr. DOLLIVEit. · I appreciate, as well as the Senator does, article from England and Germany and Austria comes in, what the improvements made in the glass industry, and I have given will be the result? special attention to it. I admit freely that the protection of The Senator from Minnesota talks about reduced wages. We the industi·y has been a magnificent success in the United have not reduced wages in my factory. On the contrary, some States. of the men have been increased. If you reduce the tariff, wage Mr. SCOTT. One word more, and I do not propose to discuss reduction is as inevitable as that water will run down hill. this matter further at the present time. Mr. DOLLIVER. I will say to the Senator from West Vir- In the great injustice that hns been done the Ameri· ginia that I would certainly regret the reduction of wages, and can rnauufactm·er has beeu, of course, not in the workings of I would certainly regret any damage to the industry. I like the protective tariff on that article, but by the rascally im- these schedules on the whole, because in practically every para- fJ460 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. fAPRIL 22,

graph there appears to be a reasonable competition with other people desired to get butter and eggs and other articles of food countries. I am a firm belie-ver in the Republican doctrine that unburdened by the Dingley tariff rates, and to secure, free,. ar­ the duties ought at least to be high enough to bring the importer ticles for their manufacturing industries upon which a duty is and the manufacturer together in our market place on terms now laid, like the hides of certain kinds of cattle. I believe of fair competition. That appears to be accomplished in the these people are more responsible than anybody else for the earthenware and glass schedule. general dissatisfaction that gradually grew up against the old But I had in mind certain machinery, automatic in its char- Dingley tariff act. acter, which has been put into operation in some d-epartments I was not unaware in those years of the difficulties of revis­ of glass manufacture in the United States, which I thought ing the tariff. I have been a very bumble observer of that might introduce new elements into the labor problem. operation at least three times in the last twenty-one years, and I had also in mind the fact that since the Dingley law was en- I knew then as well as I know now that a tariff bill when once acted, in many sections of the country, the production of glass passed is not any man's bill. It is the result of compromises has been greatly reduced in cost by the introduction of cheap and inadvertencies and extraordinary skill in the adjustment fuel. I was in Pennsylvania some time ago and had the oppor- of the language with which nearly everybody, either in Con­ tunity of dedicating, with a good Republican speech, the largest gress or out of it, is unfamiliar. I knew it would be a year window-glass manufactory existing, I think, in the United after the tariff bill was revised before even those who were States; and the thing that interested me was that there was a skillful students of it would know all that had been involved mountain of sand, with the limestone immediately at hand, and in the revision. for fuel they simply bored a hole in the ground. I have won- So I have not been one of those who sought to push the dered whether it might not be possible, seeing the improved country, and certainly not my own party, forward to a revision status of the industry in the United States, to wisely reduce of the tariff. But I can not refrain from entering an indi­ these duties without affecting either the profits of the manufac- vidual dissent from the proposition that it was the purpose of turer or the wages of labor. the President in calling this Congress, or the purpose of the I do not desire to see the earthenware industry injured, and party in practically ordering the Congress to be called together, I believe that the best piece of work in this bill is the fact that in its platform of last year, either to leave the Dingley tariff existing duties on most of these schedules have been preserved, act as it is or to increase its rates. because the earthenware industry is practically a manual indus- I have an opinion that the American people expect us, if it try, and as long as men work with their hands, with the same can be done, to reduce the schedules of the Dingley tariff act material,. we will have to guard the gap between wages here somewhat. I do not believe that any Republican desires to and in other countries; and I want to be one of those who guard sacrifice any American industry in that particular or the wages it faithfully. · of American tabor. But there are millions of people in the Mr. SUTHERLAND. I should like to ask the Senator from United States who agree with my honored friend the Senator Iowa and the Senator froi:n West Virginia a question with ref- from Minnesota that some of these schedules ought to be re- erence to new machinery in this country, and that is whether vised. . .Germany and the other countries which are competing with I undertake to say that a careful study of the textile sched­ us have not the same sort of improved machinery, so that, so ules, which have been reported by the committee, will suggest far as the improvements of machinery are concerned, we still to nearly any unprejudiced mind the fact that we have the stand upon an equality? protective rates so high as to be unnecessary to the ma.nu- .Mr. DOLLIVER. My information is that the machinery of facturer and a perpetually bad advertisement for the Congress, the .American Window Glass Company is not even shared with and especially for the Republican party. Therefore it is my the independ~t manufacturers of window 'glass in the United intention to ask my honored friend the chairman of the com­ States. So I doubt very much whether the Germans have been mittee to see if it is not possible th~t some of these rates, able to get hold of it. many of them alluded to by my friend the Senator from Mr. SUTHERLAND. I am asking information. Minnesota, should be reconstructed. l\Ir. SCOTT. It is covered by patents. I should like at least to · see them so reconstructed that the Mr. DOLLIVER. Yes. average man could understand them. I know it will be a Mr. SCOTT. I should like to say to the Senator from Utah, favorite thing in the Senate in the course of the next few weeks, .if the Senator from Iowa will allow me, that a company with probably, to disparage fairly good people because they do not which I was connected twenty-five years ago shipped from fifty know about particular things. I intend to exercise my right to thousand to seventy-fi•e thousand dollars' worth of goods to inquire about them, and I hope the flow of information will be a .Germany and other European countries, because our appliances, patient one and a friendly one, because I feel a certain duty to such as molds and processes, were not known specially to the my people, twenty-five hundred thousand people, who have little German people; but as soon as the shrewd Germans and other or no interest. in this business except that indirect interest foreigne1~ s were informed of what we were able to do by these which arises from the prosperity of the American market place . .improYed appliances, the shrewd Yankees who had produced I · shall feel it my duty to inquire into these matters and to these appliances were unable to export goods, and they went suggest amendments. I shall do it in a kindly way, in a spirit over to that country and sold their molds and their processes that grants to everybody the same freedom of judgment that I and their appliances for making· glass over there. Then, as should like to exercise myself. But nevertheless, I propose, if .soon as the foreigners had those appliances, they could send the I the opportunity arises, to have a thorough explanation of some goods back to us if it was not for the protection given by the of these schedules~ because I have it· on mighty good authority Republican party through the protective tariff. · that the number of people who understand them is very small. ..J Mr. DOLLIVER. I am· all the less disposed to be critical The testimony taken before the House committee indicated about the earthenware schedules, because the rate of duty is that in 1897 the number of people who understood the woolen .on. the basis of value ·and does not in many cases exceed what schedule was reduced so remarkably that the sickness of a sin­ appears to be a reasonable protection. I do not, however, alto- gle mail made it almost impossible for the committee to pro­ gether agree with the chairman of-the committee as to the gen- ceed with the schedule. Testimony was produced before the eral scheme upon which the tariff revision ought to be made. committee in the House of Representatives that men like my We are here in an extraordinary session of Congress. That former venerable colleague, Senator Allison, and men like very fact indicates that something was expected to be done. Senator Platt of Connecticut, with intellects as acute as we -The country at large was divided into two groups of people ever had in the Senate Chamber, were not able to understand within the Republican party what some vulgarly called the the schedule that had been presented for their indorsement by "progressive element" and the "standpatters." I have taken the American Wool Manufacturers' Association. In -view of a certain satisfaction in my efforts to mode.rate all such con- that I shall not regard it as a disparagement either of my in­ tentions within the Republican party. I have· always felt a dustry or of my intelligence if I seek certain information in .certain pride in being a Republican of the old school. · respect to these schedules. . The radical element, if they may be so called, were arduous I believe the woolen schedule ought to be reduced. I am not in their efforts to secure an agitation of the tariff question. I willing to go so far as to say that it will very materially affect regret Yery much to say that many good people who now appear the price of clothes, but I undertake to say that for twenty to be more conservative than anybody else-good people in years1t has been a bad advertisement for the Republican party; Massachusetts-were responsible in a larger measure than an~ and I undertalrn to say that audiences which once listened with other Republicans for the agitation of the tariff question in patience while we tried to explain it in a campaign are now out .these recent years. I regret to say that some of them desired of patience and will want to know more details than have ever to admit to their factories on more attractive terms the raw heretofore been laid before the American people. · materials which they use. Others desired to get cheaper food I therefore suggest what I intend to do myself, if I haye the for their employees, and I belie-ve the tariff agitation .in the strength and the grace, and that is to so vote as to adhere as United States spread largely from New England, some of whose far as possible to every reduction in the Dingley rate that was ·1909. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. tl461

ma.de by the House committee, and to. adhere as far as possible Mr. DOLLIVER. It is a regulation of the Treasury Depart­ to every reduction that has been made by the Senate committee. ment possibly, and that is exactly what I complain about It is ;wherever I find a rate in the bill pending here that goes beyond put in a vague way so that the Treasury Department can make the Dingley rate of 1897 I shall exercise the right to inquire any regulation and any decision in respect to it that it pleases. with very great care into the question . whether, after twelve One of the very strongholds of abuse in the American tariff years of prosperity, with every industry apparently satisfied, system is the fact that there is a board of appraisement who with every industry multiplying its output and increasing its are liable any day to make the tariff law of the United States capital and going on in an uninterrupted prosperity-whether ridiculous before the world. I ha.ve a Trea&ury report in after twelve such years of industrial progress tt might not be which a blanket made entirely of cotton, with a woolen thread possible, merely for the sake of the advertisement and our around its edges to hold the thing from unraveling, was assessed popular repute in the United Sta.tes, to scale some of these at the compound woolen-cloth duty-22 cents a pound and 30 duties, so that when we come to read the history of this- extraor­ per cent ad valorem; and that proposition is the law to-day. - dinary session: of Congress we will not be compelled to say I know a case where a chair larger than those we sit in, that it was called not to reduce the duties, but to confirm duties with silk cloth upon the bottom with a few woolen threads in that had been in existence for twelve years. it, was assessed by the appraisers as woolen goods-goods com­ I have gone through this bill with a good deal of care; and posed partly of wool-and assigned the duty applicable to wool~n while it may be that there are only a few increases and. quite eloth. a number of reductions, I venture the suggestion that when we Though I find in this bill language which nobody can under­ are through with it it will be so nearly like the Dingley tariff stand who is not a technical expert in the business, I think it is law, unless we examine it with great care, that many men will our duty to reduce it within the common understanding of the wonder what was the extraordinary occasion which ca.lled Con­ people so that men will know what the duties a.re. gress into session. It certainly was not called into session to I hold in my hand here the report of the probable revenue increase the tariff. There was not a voice raised upon that that will be derived from this bill. I find in the cotton schedule, proposition. It certainly was not called into existence to let in some articles of very moderately priced cloth, the present rate the taTiff stand exactly as it did, because an extraordinary ses­ of a cent and ::r quarter a pound has been skillfully raised with­ sion of Congress was not necessary for that purpose. out saying a word about the- raising to 7 cents a pound. My judgment is that we ought to set our thought and purpose Mr. ALDRICH. Wbat are the articles? steadfastly to reducing the duties in the Dingley schedules, Mr. DOLLIVER. The article is a cotton cloth. In fact, wherever it can be done without sacrificing an .American there a-re a great variety of articles, because the italics seem to industry. run in as to all of Goyernor Dingley's schedules. The very increases that were under debate here this morning i\Ir . .ALDRICH. I would be glad to have the Senator call I do not know whether I can support or not; but if it C":an. be my attention to it. • shown that there is one industry in the United States, however Ur. DOLLIVER. I will be very glad to call the Senator"s small, that is fighting a hard fight with foreign competition and attention to it, beeause- I think we· have a common interest to is being- pressed to the wall by people who do not live in the secure in this matter. I refer to paragraph 313', to cotton cloth, United States, I will be willing to increase that duty high bleached. The dutr at present is practically prohibitory, only enough to give the business to people who live in the United $5,000 worth having come in. It is on page 72.. I wish to fol­ States. That is as far as I will go. But I do not propose to low this out as a curiosity. Paragra-ph 313, bleached cotton swallow without inquiry and without criticism these schedules cloth. There were imported 31,000 yards. that have been built up during the last twenty years and have Mr. ALDRICH. I thought the Senator was talking about grown so complex that nobody in Congress or out can tell what the rates. I should be glad to have- him point out the pro­ the duties actually laid by the bill are to be. vision. Take, for example, the cotton schedule. My friend the chair­ Mr. DOLLIVER. There is no provision at all in y0ur bill man of the House committee said to the country in a report as to the rates. It is an indirect provision as to the rates that on his- bill that he made no changes in the cotton schedule, and I have had to calculate, and I was delighted to find that my he believed it. He is not a man who would misstate the situa­ calculation corresponded exactly with the calculation of the tion, either to the House or to the pu1'.llic. Yet hidden away in experts of the Finance Committee; because· they say that the that cotton schedule was a new definition of cotton cloth, and present law is: 11 cents a yard, and they say that the Senate that new definition of . cotton. cloth changed effectively every bill is 7 cents f)er yard. There is an increase of about 500 per rate in the eotton schedule from one end of it to the other. cent, and my honored friend from Rhode Island puts it down Governor Dingley in 1897 gave a brief and perfect definition as liable to produce a very substantial addition to the revenue. of cotton cloth. He said it consisted of a woven fabric, com­ Mr. ALDRICH. I suppose the Senator from Iowa knows how posed of cotton that could be analyzed by unraveling the these tables were prepared. I have never seen a table in regard threads, and the duty was based upon the density of the to cotton cloth. cloth; that is to say, the number of threads to the square inch. Mr. DOLLIVER. This table is prepared con-ectly in this Somebody comes to the committee room of the House of Rep­ particular. resentatives and suggests that that definition ought to be modi­ l\fr. ALDRICH. I suggest to the Senator from Iowa that fied; and so we have a new definition of cloth, by which in there is no such change. I do not intend now to undertake to counting the threads upon which all the duties are based, not defend' or explain the cotton schedule, but when the schedule only the threads ~e to be counted, but e-very filament of cotton, is before the Senate I will be able to explain it to the intelli­ whether known by the name of a thread or . otherwise; and not gent understanding of every man in the Senate. There is no oniy that, but when there is more than one filament of cotton such change as the Senator from Iowa suggests in the bill. in a thread, then the thread itself should be taken apart and Mr. DOLLIVER. I would not" have believed' it i:f i.t had not the pieces counted; and if there had been a little figure imposed confirmed the calculation which I myself made, with the aid on the cotton by clipping the thread so as to confurn:I to the of experts, on these schedules, because that is not the only raise • figure intended, the thread in that imposed piece of. figure work that has been made. There is not a word in the bill indicating should be counted. When you got through with that schedule, that any change has occurred, but a mere question of phrase­ there was not a man living among men who could tell what any ology about yards and· density. The present rate on 50 threads single cotton rate would be. There was not a merchant in the to the square inch-- United States who could anticipate upon what basis he might 1\Ir. BEVERIDGE. May I ask the Senator who prepared the import merchandise and conduct his business. When the chair­ phraseology about the density and number of threads and so man of the committee found it out, he just quietly dropped it forth? Where did it come from? out. But when the Senate committee makes a report, it is back. Mr. DO'LLIVER. That phraseology was prepared in 1894. Mr. .ALDRICH. Ur. President-­ Mr. BEVERIDGE. I mean the phraseol-Ogy which results l\I1T. DOLLIVER. In a mild form. in this· most extraordinary and startling rule. I have been very Mr. ALDRICH. It is not back in any form, and I am sorry much interested in what the Senator has been saying, and I to hear the SBilator make that statement. have been wondering how it got before the House committee. Mr. DOLLIVER. If my honorable friend will permit me, it Mr. DOLLIVER. I will give the Senator from Indiana: a is back there in this form, that in counting these threads ac­ little history of the phraseology. count shall be taken of all the thread whether ordinary or other Mr. BEVERIDGE. I would be gla:d to hear it. than ordinary. Mr. DOLLIVER. The whole scheme of assessing these cotton Mr. ALDRICH. That is the law now. duties and the count of thread, at least so far as my investiga­ Mr. DOLLIVER. I beg the Senator's pardon. That seems tion goes, is as old as 1894. I have seen in the handwriting of to be in_ italics in your bill. the late Governor Dingley a statement that it was put into the Mii'. ALDRICH. It is: the law· now. Wilson bill by the cotton manufacturers themselves; and it was tl462 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. APRIL 22, his opinion that they, having framed it in all its details, should :Mr. ALDRICH. Every appraising officer of the Government be satisfied with it in 1897. So it was perpetuated, and it has is bound to have knowledge not only of the domestic but the so stood until now, when, as I will undertake to show when the · foreign cost of these articles. That is his duty. It is his plain time arrives when a man can more properly discuss the cotton duty under the law. schedule, it is all put at sea by new definitions of cloth which l\fr. BEVERIDGE. How does he get it? affect every rate that has been fixed in the Dingley law. Mr. ALDRICH. He get s it by information from different Mr. BEVERIDGE. Now, there is a new definition which the parties, through the consular officers of the United States; Senator calls attention to. Does the Senator know what was through special agents who are sent to foreign countries; the origin of that definition, which the Senator says results in through invoices which are before him every day; through evi­ an increase of practically 600 per cent of duty? dences of all kinds; the evidence of importers in the United Mr. DOLLIVER. I do not know, and I would not probably States; of manufacturers in the United Sta tes; of manufac­ want to publish such a matter if I did. I understand that it turers abroad; of exporters abroad. He is bound to make, if has been customary, and a very proper custom, for the tariff he follows out his duties, an absolutely full and accurate inves­ committees to consult the manufacturers. Nobody else knows tigation of the cost of production in foreign countries and in the details of these great textile industries except people who this country; and if he does not do ·that he is not discharging live in them. A man would be a very great fool who would his duty. Undertake to arrange a tariff schedule without close consulta­ I wan.t to say further that we have as capable a force of ex­ tion with somebody who knew the technical details. So it is perts in this country upon all those questions as there has ever not surprising that the cotton, wool, and silk, and every textile been. I think there is no member of the committee who is not schedule has come to the committees of both Houses from entirely satisfied of that fact. experts representing the manufacturers themselves. l\Ir. BEVERIDGE. I will defer this to another time, because Mr. BEVERIDGE. That being true, does not the Senator I ha·rn ah'eady intruded too much upon the time of the Senator. think it necessarily follows that in addition to the committee from Iowa. very properly having the information coming from the experts l\lr. S~IOOT . l\fr. President-- of the manufacturers who are interested in this thing, they The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Iowa yield should also have the information of experts, equally expert and to the Senator from Utah? impartial, employed by the Government for that particular pur­ Mr. DOLLIVER. Certainly. pose? :Mr. SMOOT. I suppose I would be trespassing upon the time Mr. ALDRICH. If the Senator will permit me just there of the Senator from Iowa to give an explanation of this para­ upon that point, no manufacturer has been before the Commit­ graph and this particular class of cloth, but I want to say to tee on Finance in regard to this schedule. Every change that the Senate that when the explanation is gi,en, it will appear was made in it was made upon the recommendation of the so plain to every man in the Senate that there will be no rea- government experts and' nobody else; and it is now defensible on wh_atm-er for an objection to the increase of the rate. I and will be defended by the members of that committee when­ will say that it applies to a class of goods in this country not ever the schedule is reached. known at the time of the Dingley schedules. I will content Mr. BEVERIDGE. I sincerely hope so, and of course I my elf by making that statement. believe that that is true. Mr. BEVERIDGE. Is it true, as the Senator from Iowa Mr. ALDRICH. It is absolutely true. startled me by asserting, that the change as to that one classi­ Mr.· BEVERIDGE. Nevertheless, the Senator from Iowa has fication changes the whole rates of the entire cotton schedule? called attention to a situation here which, if verified, is more Mr. ALDRICH. It does not. or less startling; but whether so or not, it certainly does point Mr. SMOOT. It does not. to the fact that in addition to information derived from an ex l\Ir. BEVERIDGE. Then the Senator from Iowa is mis· parte and partial source, the Senate and Congre s should have taken? it verified by further information. I did not intend to take time .l\Ir. ELKINS. Mr. President-- to discuss this matter now and am much obliged to the Senator The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Iowa yield from Iowa for letting me have the floor at all; but, for instance, to the Senator from West Virginia? attention was this morning called to the fact that the committee Mr. DOLLIVER. Certainly. took-and I do not blame it for taking it, it was all it could l\Ir. ELKINS. I imagine that one of the difficulties that con­ take-the statement of manufacturers as to the difference be­ fronts the Senate just now is that the testimony of these experts tween the cost of production here and abroad. is not accessible. The Senator from California ays the expert l\fr. ALDRICH. l\fr. President-- says so- and so, as I believe does the Senator from Utah. It 1\Ir. BEVERIDGE. That was all right. may appear to them so and so, but if we had the expert's Mr. ALDRICH. Right there-- opinion right here before us, we could jud"'e better for our­ Mr. BEVERIDGE. But it should be properly verified. It selyes. If it is down in print or reported, that is one thing; but would be in the Senator's own business. Why not in the Govern­ certainly the members of the committee, able a they are, can ment's business? not carry in their heads all that the experts said about these Mr. ALDRICH. The Senator from Indiana is entirely mis­ Yarious schedules. A member of the committee could not it taken about that particular item. up with one of them a whole week and understand this cotton Mr. BEVERIDGE. I said what was stated here this morn­ bu iness. It is no authority to me, and it is no satisfaction to ing. I listened to the debate very carefully. me to tell me that the experts said so and so. .l\fr. ALDRICH. The change was made in those articles, as Mr. ALDRICH. Will the Senator from West Virginia allow the Senator from North Dakota well said, upon the· advice of me to suggest that the glass schedule is now under con idera­ the experts of the Treasury Department. tion, and perhaps he knows more about that than the cotton Mr. FLINT. I wi h to make this statement: There is no schedule? schedule in the bill that was not placed there by the approval Mr. ELKINS. What schedule? or at least upon information furnished by experts of the Gov­ Mr. ALDRICH. Glass. ernment. .l\Ir. ELKINS. Well, I am just remarking, as a general Mr. BEVERIDGE. I want again to thank the Senator from proposition, that we have no expert information here except Iowa, and then I will not take any more time, because I merely as given to tis by the chairman of the committee and his col­ want to make the point that two Senators have said this, and leagues. What I want to get at is a printed report of these I want to ask the Senators what they know as a fact, whether hearings, so that we may read them for ourselves. It satisfies or not the experts of the Government gave evidence before them the Senator from California [1\Ir. FLINT] to remark, "This is as to the accurate cost of production here and abroad? Have what the experts say;" and it satisfies the Senator from Rhode they examined any witnesses? Have they put them under Island [Mr. ALDRICH] to say, "The experts said this." That oath? Have they opened books? How do they know and how is their memory of it or their understanding of it. I do not does the committee know what the facts are? · say that they would misrepresent what the experts said, but I One Senator said that the recommendations were made by say it would be impossible for them to carry in their ruinds experts. Then, what knowledge did the experts have? That particularly, definitely, and carefully what the experts did say. they might haw some as to classification is clear; but when If they have it printed or in accessible shape, let us read what the Senator tries to conclude the whole question upon the in­ the experti:; 1:::aid. Senators' statements in such a case are not formation furnished either by interested parties or by experts evidence, as they are merely second-hand evidence. Such state­ who have themselves gh·en no testimony under oath and, what ments are not real evidence when they are retailed around from is more important, taken no testimony, I think that even he two or three sources. would admit that that is not sufficient information upon which .l\Ir. ALDRICH. The Senator from West ' Tirginia has been be can recommend a tariff bill. before the 'committee several times, and has made a great many ·>::'

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statements about 'Various arti.~ es in which he is interested. We manufacturer and the American purchaser is not evidence as to ne,er haY-e llacl them taken down. We do not remember every­ what they sell those postal cards for, I do not know where :0n thing the Senator Eaid; we can remember some things he has earth .you would .find it. eaid, but he would not expect us to remember all that he has Mr. BEVERIDGE. Where would you .find evidence as to the ·said, I assume. cost here? :Mr. ELKINS. I am no expert, either, :Mr. President. Mr. DOLLIVER. If we have an industry here that requires Mr. FLINT. We do remember the rates the Senator fixed on a protection of four or five hundred per cent, I believe it would coal. be cheaper, unless the indusiTy is very large and involves a Mr. ELKINS. No; you do not. You ha\e not fixed them yet. great multitude of people, to send some detective over there to 1\1r. BEVERIDGE. The Senator from California does not see how they manage the thing. mean to say that the Senator from West Virginia fixed the rates Mr. S:\IOOT. I do not know whether the Senator desires me on coal? to answer that; but I can tell him one thing as to how they .Ur. FLTh""i'. He suggested a rate. manage it. They manage it, in the first place, by paying t he Mr. ALDRICH. Yes; he suggested a rate. laboring man one-fourth of what he is paid in this country. 1'Ir. ELKil TS. Tes; and the highest I could get, Mr. Presi­ 1\Ir. DOLLIVER. I have in my mind all the statistics on dent. [Laughter.] that subject. In other matters we do not regard it as necessary l\Ir. DOLLIVER Mr. President, what I ha\e been afraid of to put on a rate of four -Or nve hundred per cent for such a is that we are p~aying a part that will ultimately become a reason. · mere comegy. I ha·rn seen the course of tariff agitation once 1\Ir. ALDRICH. Will the Senator permit me to ask him a or twice, and I know some points of the performance. We hase question? rates put forward-in themselves comparatively insignificant Mr. DOLLI VER. Certainly. to attract the lightning of public wrath and opinion, to which we Mr. ALDRICH. The Senator has criticised, with more or less respectfully bow. We have controYersies of all sorts to which EeTerity-- we are expected to yield our attention. '\Ve have already been Mr. DOLLIVER. Not intentional severity-- ad1ised-- Mr. ALDRI CH. With mild se\erity, the provisions reported l\1r. NELSON. Will the Senator yield to me for a couple of by the Senate committee with regard to the duties upon im­ que tions? ported woolen goods. The Senator from Iowa was a member The VICE-PRESIDEN'.r. Does the Senator from "Iowa yield of the comm1ttee that prepared the schedules of the act of 1897, to the Senator from Minnesota? the Dingley Act. Did he give that schedule then his support, Mr. DOLLIVER. I do. and did he T"ote for it in the House of Representatives? Mr. NELSON. Does the Senator believe that we were called l\Ir, DOLLIVER. l\lr. Presiden.t, I voted for it, after having together in this extraordinary session to reenact the Dingley vainly tried to get people to explain it to me. I supposed that I tariff law? was dull and unfit for the business, and probably I was; and I l\Ir. DOLLIVER. I ha>e already intimated that it is hardly was ne>er encouraged on that point until I read a letter from credible to me that that was in the mind of the President. the secretary of the American Woolen l\lanufacturers' Associa­ l\Ir. NELSON. Does the Senator belie>e that the President tion to the president of that association about that time, when and the A.ri.ierican people wanted us to meet here and increase the same bill was pending in the Senate, in which he said that the rates of the Dingley ta.riff law? it was entirely impossible to explain the matter to Senator l\Ir. DOLLIVER. I am not familiar with the literature of Allison and to .Senator Platt of Connecticut. [Laughter.] that demand. 1\Ir. ALDRICH. The question then under consideration was l\Ir. SMOOT. l\Ir. President-- in regard to the duty upon wool tops, and not the duty upon The VICE-PRESIDE..i..~T. Does -the Sena.tor from Iowa yield woolen cloths. The dnty on woolen cloths in this bill is identical to the Senator from Utah? with the duty in the schedule on woolen cloths that was pre­ Mr. DOLLIVER. Yes. pared by a committee of which 1\1r. Dingley was chairman and l\Ir. SMOOT. In paragraph 408 there will be found an item of which the Senator from Iowa was a member. Those sched­ of postal view cards, on which the rate was 5 cents a pound. ules came to us from the House of Representatives in the form ·would the Senator, if we could prove to him that it was abso­ that they went into the Dingley bill and in the form in which lutely necessary to save that industry from absolute destruction they are now in the law, and now in the report of the Commit­ to increase the rate 400 per cent, Y-ote for such an increase? tee on Finance. Mr. DOLLIVER. I would 'investigate it with Y-ery great care. 1\lr. DOLLIVER. I will say to my honored friend from 1\Ir. SMOOT. I will ask the Senato1-, if, after he had made a Ilhode Island that while I do not now claim any expert kn-Owl­ full investigation, with yery great care, he found that it was edge on these difficult subjects, I ha-ve in the last twel>e years, absolutely necessary to so increa~e the rate, would he then Tote by casual attention as matters arose, acquired a little larger in­ for it? sight into those technicalities than I had at that time, although Mr. DOLLIVER. l would hesitate a while. [Laughter.] e>en then l wondered, and could get no satisfaction, why a man Mr. Mr. BEVERIDGE. President, will the Senator from bringing woolen cloth into the United States ~hould be assessed Iowa permit me to ask a que.stion of the Senator from Utah? four times the duty upon an unwashed pound of wool on each 1\fr. DOLLIVER. Ies. , pound of cloth when, in point of fact, there was no wool in Mr. BEVERIDGE. llow would the Senator from Utah prove the cloth which he was bringing in. that? Mr. SMOOT. l\lr. President-- Mr. SMOOT. Mr. President, we can certainly prove it by the The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Iowa yield absolute cost of the production of postal view cards in Germany. to the Senator from Utah? Mr. BEVERIDGE. And here.? 1\Ir. DOLLIVER. I do. i\fr. SMOOT. Yes. l\fr. SMOOT. The case of which the Senator speaks is not Mr. BEVERIDGE. How would the -Senator prove the cost of the case as to which we legislated. I have been a woolen such cards there and here: manufacturer for now nearly -a quarter of .a century. I have l\Ir. SMOOT. I can bring the Senator, if he so desires, from ta.ken the wool as it came from the sheep's back-- 50 to 100 in>oices of these Tery postal view cards of Washington Mr. DOLLIVER. Mr. President, I thought my friend desired City that have been made in Germany, and they are flooding this to ask me a question. country from one end of it to the other. l\Ir. SMOOT. I shall not now further interru~t the Senator. Mr. BEVERIDGE. Valued where? l\Ir. DOLLIVER. I would not want to precipitate now an Mr. SMOOT. Valued in New York City. explanation of the woolen schedule, because I do not want Just Mr. BEVERIDGE. The point, 1\Ir. President, of ail these now to in-volve the Senate in the mysteries which surround it. questions, of course-I will not pursue it further-clearly is I prefer to wait until that subject is properly before the Senate. to show that when you use the legal word "proof," you have Mr. SMOOT. There is no mystery about it. no such proof before you. You have ex parte testimony, and Mr. ALDRICH. If the Senator will peTmit me, I will ask, that is the best you can have. I make no quarrel about it, Has the Senator at any time, in committee or in the House of because np to this time that is the only kind of proof ~e have Representatives, criticised any of these provisions? had. That does not apply to this case more than it does to Mr. DOLLIVER. If my friend will permit me, I was then in others. a position constraining me to acquiesce in what was done. Mr. SMOOT. I want to say-- :Mr. HALE. The Senator was a member of the committee? Mr. BEVERIDGE. What the country wants are the facts. Mr. DOLLIVER. Yes ; I was a member of the committee. hlr. SMOOT. I want to say that a manufacturer in Germany ·Every Republican member of the committee this year responded will not continue to sell the goods at a loss for a period of in reporting the bill and voting for it, although many voices four or five years; and if the actual invoice of the German were silent that have heretofore been eloquent upon the ta!riff fl464 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· SENATE. APRIL 22,

·subject. · I did join in the report. - It was not then fashionable when the woolen schedl,lle is properly before us not only to criti­ to• file a minority report upon a party measure when the House cise it but to offer the Senate an opportunity to correct wha1J had 01;1ly a modest majority with which to transact business. I regard as damaging inequalities that have grown into it. We had a good ~ deal ·of moral ·pressure to bear in that House Nor is it necessary to quote what happened in 18!)7 or in 18!>0. before we secured that solidarity of action which enabled us to My honored friend could have gone further. The fabric of the put the Dingley ·tariff bill through; and I ha\e no apologies to protection of woolen merchandise was built long before 1890. I make for that, for the case was even more acute in the Senate. am told that it appeared here in 1861 ; it is certain that the Mr. HALE. Has the Senator ever hesitated to defend that exact framework of our present sch.edules applicable to woolen law? cloths appeared in-1867. So far as I can find out, although I am l\lr. DOLLIVER. Oh, no; I ha\e defended it in almost every not an acute student of the hidden things of history, a meeting St~te of the Union. · But the audiences are growing weary of was held in the Senate between the shepherds and the woolen the old defenses, and it js impossible now to convince the Amer­ manufacturers, and, the shepherds being extremely anxious for ican people that the protective system in the United States re­ substantial rates, it was after a while agreed betw~n them that quires a duty, rising in some cases to 150 per cent, upon the each should take what he wanted; but the pt;iblic was not pres­ clothes that are worn upon their backs. ent in. the conference, s_o far as the record discloses. I propose l\lr. ALDRICH. l\lr. President-- in this session of the Senate-I may fail ; I do not know how The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Iowa vield that will be-but I propose to reopen that conference and intro­ to the Senator from Rhode Island? ~ duce into it an element which was not present when the original Mr. DOLLIVER. Certainly. fabric of these schedules was devised. · . l\Ir. ALDRICH. The Senator from Iowa· was a Member of .Mr. WARREN. I did not exactly catch all that the Senator the House of Representatives in 1890, as I recollect, when the sa"id. In connection with what tariff and in what year was the McKinley bill was passed, though I think he was not then a meeting between the shepherds and the woolen manufacturers member of the committee which framed it. The rates upon to which he refers? woolen cloths were substantially identical in the l\IcKinley Act l\Ir. DOLLIVER. I think it was in 1867. with what they are in the Dingley Act and what the rates re­ Mr. WARREN. I have only a word to say. While it is evi­ ported by the Senate committee are. dent that that was before my day in the Senate, it was not be­ . The criticisms in which the Senator has just now indulged fore my day in the sheep business or in the wool busin.ess, and were heard from every Democratic l\Iember of the House prac­ it was not before my day of meeting with-other shepherds. If tical1y, and every Democratic Member of the Senate; but I have there was an agreement of that kind, I never heard of it; and never heard that the Senator from Iowa raised his voice in I know I was down here fighting for better protection for the accord with those criticisms, or that he had done anything else woolgrowers, and that we were not satisfied with what we got. except to defend and vote for those schedules with which he Mr. DOLLIVER. I may have been deceived by a myth and has recently discovered so much fault. a tradition, but if I have, it has decei"ved a good many other l\Ir. DOLLIVER. On the contrary, my discovery of faults has people. I will say to my friend from Wyoming that I am not not been recent, if my honorable friend will permit me. For here complaining about the duties _on wool. I know that, while many years it has been a growing conviction with me that the we have not succeeded in producing all the wool we need, we protectiYe-tariff system, in order to be perpetuated in the United have succeeded in conferring a very substantial benefit upon a States, must be made more reasonable; and when I first entered portion of the country somewhat unsuited to ordinary agricul­ the Senate, now nearly nine years ago, I ventured to express ture; and I have never grudged the mountain States the ad­ that modest conviction, although it was "a voice crying in the Yantage which has come to them from our laws in respect to wilderness." the tariff upon wool. l\fr. ALDRICH. May I again interrupt the Senator? Mr. ALDRICH. Mr. President-- The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Iowa yield The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. KEAN in the chair). Does to the Senator from Rhode Island? • the Senator from Iowa yield to the Senator from Rhode Island? l\lr. DOLLIVER. Certainly. l\lr. DOLLIVER. Certainly. l\Ir. ALDRICH. Both the McKinley bill a:id the Dingley bill Mr. ALDRICH. I suppose the Senator from Iowa is aware came to the Senate from the House of Representatives with sub­ that he is not the original investigator along these lines. The stantially the rates in them which I have indicated. statement which he has just made has been made, iterated and l\Ir. DOLLIVER.. Now, if my friend will allow me-- reiterated over and over again in this Chamber and in the l\Ir. ALDRICH. Just a word. They were taken up here by other Chamber, by every orator who has spoken against the a committee of which the former Senator from: Iowa was a duties on woolens or wool. It is simply reiterating to-day the member. If there was any man who ever understood the Democratic claims which have been current in this country for woolen schedule, it was the late Senator from Iowa, l\Ir. Allison, a generation. and while there was an "Iowa idea" in regard to the tariff, Mr. DOLLIVER. That may be; but it is not important. It and there were certain people in Iowa who did not agree with is enough· to. say that the woolgrower has a certain duty, and the former Senator from Iowa, I never classed the present Sen­ has insisted upon it for many years, and that a large part of ator from Iowa in that category. the duty on woolen.cloth arises out of the fact that it has been l\Ir. DOLLIVER. l\Ir. President, if my honored friend will thought necessary to compensate the woolen manufacturer for permit me, I got into trouble here once by commenting upon the the loss which he sustains by reason of the advantage which views and opinions of a man who had passed out of the noise of the law gives to the wool producer. I am, for one, willing to our controversies, but if I neyer in this world have any other compensate him. I recognize that the tariff on wool has put sin to answer for than the sin of ignoring the judgment and the American manufacturer at a disadvantage in the making opinions of my former colleague in this House, I shall stand of cloth. acquitted on the last day. I shall not discuss his views, but I I have read the speeches of my honored friend from Rhode undertake to say that in the last twenty years, while he was Island for many years, and I assent to many of his conclu­ compelled by the very situation in which he was placed to sions. There is no man who has a warmer respect for him or a cooperate in the preparation of these tariff schedules, his opin­ more generous recognition of the wisdom and the skill with ion was that we had managed in some way to get the duties on which he has studied these affairs. I was convinced' by him woolen cloths on a scale entirely too high for the welfare of the that it was necessary to compensate the woolgrower, to give him protective-tariff system. four times the duty upon an unwashed pound of wool for each l\lr. ALDRICH. Mr. President, I will put my information on pound of cloth that is brought into the country, although I must that subject against that of the Senator from Iowa. I was confess that I share with very able and eminent men, who are associated with the late Senator Allison for twenty-seven years not Democrats, in ·certain doubts as to the mathematical ac­ as a member of the Finance Committee of this body. I was curacy of that calculation. When the Senator from Rhode closely associated with him in the preparation of every tariff Island said, as he did once in the Senate, that in order to make bill which was ever reported to the Senate during that time, the chain sh·ong at all points, to protect all interests, to guard and no political exigency of the hour ever caused him to change against extreme cases, it was necessary to select four as the his opinion upon this question. multiple, I consented to that. The only thing that has worried :Mr. DOLLIVER. l\fr. President, even if it were true, as I me is that that multiple· is made use of through the whole shall undertake to dispute on a subsequent occasion, that Sena­ woolen schedule wherever it seems to be advantageous, ·not only tor Allison was heartily in favor of these high rates on woolen when cloth is manufactured out of wool, but whatever it is man­ goods, I ·would not regard that as binding either upon my con­ ufactured out of. science or upon my judgment. I propose here, without asper­ Mr. HEYBURN. l\Ir. President-- ity either in heart or in speech, to state my own views and my The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from Ic-.;va own convictions in respect to this matter. I shall undertake yield to the Senator from Idaho? 1909. .CONGRESSIONAL . RECOR. D-· SEN.A.TE. 1465

Mr. DOLLIVER. Certainly. . . Mr. BEVERIDGE. . The cotton schedule. -It would be per­ Mr. HEYBURN. That is the second time. the Senator from 1 ~ fectly immaterial whether i~ was the c~tton schedule or any Iowa has referred to that feature of this bil_l. That feature is other schedule, because that is. extre~1ely 1mport~nt. . contained in the existing tariff act. l\Ir. DOLLIVER. l\Ir. President, Just another matte1, and· I U~· . DOLLlVER. Exactly. will apolpgize for taking _up the time of the S~nate. . . Mr. HEYBURN. It was not a decision of the Treasury De- l\Ir. GALLINGER. Will the Senator permit me to rnterrupt partment or by anybody else. It was the language contained in him? . the act which the courts haYe interpreted At the end of section The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from Iowa 3tn, in the existing tariff act, there is this proviso: . yield to the Senator from "!'ew Hampshire? That all manufactures, of which wool is a component material, shall .Mr. DOLLIVER. Certamly. be classified and assessed for duty as manufactures of wool. . ,Mr. GALLINGER. . I understood the Senator to give it as l\lr. DOLLIVER. Exactly. his opinion that any reasonable reduction that might be made in l\Ir. HEYBURN. TP,at changed the existing law. ·The de­ the woolen schedule would probably not benefit the "ultimate cision of the United States Supreme Court in the Hartranft consumer," about whom we hear so much. · case, involving this question, held otherwise; but it was because Mr. DOLLIVER. I said I was not sure of that. the law was different; and the United States court only last l\fr. GALLINGER. Now, l\Ir. President, under Schedule K, year, in interpreting this proviso, held that the proviso con­ wool and woolens, we imported last year $62,000,QOO worth of trolled the language of the section itself, which had stated in goods that were manufactured abroad. regard to it: l\fr. DOLLI VER. Wool and woolens? Mr. GALLINGER. Wool and woolens. All manufactures of silk, or of which silk is the component material of chief value, including • • • 50 per cent ad valorem. l\Ir. DOLLIVER. My recollection is that we imported $~2,- 500,000 worth of woolen goods. Then follows the pro-vi o. The contention of the Government Mr. GALLINGER. Under the entire schedule, wool and wool­ was that the body of the section controlled, and the decision ens we imported $62,000,000 worth. Now, if no benefit is to of the court was that the proviso controlled and modified the co~e to the consumer, or if the Senator can not satisfy his mind body of the ection. . that any benefit is to come to the consumer, who is to be advan­ Mr. DOLLIVER. I have tried to familiar ize myself with taO'ed by the importation of more of those goods, and will it not the stahite and with the decisions which have been made. upon re~ult in depriving the American workingman of just that much it. Now, what I want to inquire into is, whether it is not pos­ labor and the increment of his labor? sible in some way to avoid a situation which renders that par­ ticular schedule open to criticism? l\Ir. ALDRICH. On the farm. . l\Ir. SCOTT. Mr. President, will the Senator allow me to Mr. GALLINGER. Wherever he labors. interrupt him a moment? l\fr. DOLLIVER. I do not think the pre ent schedules for The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from I owa common woolen cloth are such as to permit of material importa­ yield to the Senator from West ·Virginia? . tions. The importations of the common grades of woolen manu­ Mr. DOLLIVER. Certainly. factures, such as people generally consume, are only $330,000, l\Ir. SCOTT. Does the Senator froin Iowa know how much with a total home production of $400,000,000. d uty he actually pays under the Dingley law on a suit of clothes Mr. GALLINGER. If the~hedule is changed and larger im­ composed entirely of wool? portations result, and the Senator is not sure that the consumer l\Ir. DOLLIVER. Yes. will cret the benefit from it, who is to get the benefit? l\Ir. SCOTT. How much is the actual duty? l\fr~ DOLLIVER. There is a good deal of controversy as to Mr. DOLLIVER. I do not know as to a particular who gets the benefit when the duties are changed. I used to clothes, but I know the legal tariff rates. suit of suppose that a tariff beneficially favored a man who was pro­ l\Ir. SCOTT. One dollar and twenty-frrn cents, according to ducin"' the article upon which it was levied, but I haYe been the weight of the wool it takes to make an average man a suit taught this year by eminent statesmen from New l!.,'ngland that of clothes. Now, when the Senator pays $60 for a suit of a tariff leYied upon an agricultural product is absorbed by a clothes, the difference is for labor. Ninety per cent of the cost trust in Chicago. I have eminent friends in New England who is for the labor. . think that the farmers and cattle raisers of the United States 1\fr. DOLLIVER. That is elementary. I am not prepared to are less able to protect themselyes against the beef h·ust than dispute it. the shoemakers are against the sole-leather trust. Mr. SCOTT. It is a fact. l\lr. ALDRICH. Mr. President-- 1\Ir. DOLLIVER. I am not complaining about that. I said The VI CE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Iowa yield at the beginning that I am not sure that the suggestions I_make to the Senator from Rhode Island? will operate to reduce materially the cost of woolen goods or Mr. DOLLIVER. Certainly. of cloth. I understand, as well as anybody else in this Chamber, l\lr. ALDRICH. The Senator talks about people from New that the organization of our mercantile sy tern in the United England. To whom does he refer? Is he referring to matters States is such that it is very hard to find, when you go to buy that have taken place iii the Senate or outside ? a suit of clothes, either a moral QI' an economic relation between l\lr. DOLLIVER. I refer to the manufacturers of shoes. the value of it and the price of it. I understand that as well l\fr. ALDRICH. I do riot know anything about the manufac­ as anybody. turers of shoes. I supposed the Senator was talking about Mr. ALDRICH. l\Ir. President-- the New England sentiment, as represented by Senators upon The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from Iowa this floor. yield to the Senator from Rhode Island? Mr. DOLLIVER. I do not know what the sentiment is; it l\Ir. DOLLIVER. Certainly. has not been developed yet ; but I should not be surprised if it l\Ir. ALDRICH. I am ure the Senator from Iowa does not were pretty generally understood in New England that a little want to make a statement that is not justified by the facts. He protection of the cattle raisers in this country is of no impor­ said a few moments ago, when speaking of woolen cloths, that tance to them whatever. the duties levied upon woolen cloths are four times the duty on .illr. GALLINGER. A little while ago when the Senator was wool. asked to correct himself, in his very delightful way he criticised l\fr. DOLLIVER. Not u_pon all. In the higher grades the New England on the ground that they wanted to get rid of the multiple is 4, and in the lower grades, I belieye, th~ multiple duty on agricultural products. is 3. l\fr. DOLLIVER. I would not put my friend the Senator l\lr. ALDRICH. I did not so understand the Senator. from New Hampshire in that category. .Mr. BEVERIDGE. If the Senator will permit me-­ l\Ir. GALLINGER. I am very happy that the Senator does The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from Iowa not. yield to t he Senn tor from Indiana? Mr. DOLLIVER. He stands conspicuous for absolute fidelity l\lr. DOLLIVER. CertainJy. to the whole protective-tariff system. l\Ir. BEVERIDGE. I am very much interested in just what l\Ir. ALDRICH. The Senator can not point to any ·rnte of the Senator did say. I understood him to say that by a change mine or any speech of mine against-- of phraseology the rates in the entire schedules would be af· Mr. DOLLIVER. I would also except my honored friend the fected. I s that correct? Senator from Rhode Island, who is not even suspected of in­ l\fr. DOLLIVER. I did not say that as to the woolen fidelity. There are men wise enough to understand that the schedule. protective-tariff system requires an adequate protection of all Mr. BEVERIDGE. What schedule was it? industries in every part of the Nation, wit hout regard to the size Mr. DOLLIVER. It was the cotton l?Chedule. of the indust1-y, and there are those who desire, so it appears tc 1466 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-. SENATE .. APRIL 22,

JDe, to obtain the benefits of the system, while excluding from woolen men, the "carpet-wool" men, so called-before he finally its operation large areas and large business interests. • determines what amendment or amendments he wishes to offer. l\Ir. l\IcCUl\IBElR. If the Senator from Iowa will yield to Mr. DOLLIVER. I will do the best I can. me as one being on the committee representing wholly an agri- The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Secretary will resume the cultural State, I possibly may enlighten him upon one seuti- reading of the bill. - • ment of New England. Nearly every agricultural product I The Secretary resumed the reading of the bill, beginning on asked to ha\e raised there, and New England Senators stood page 26, line 19, paragraph 08. with me for a raise upon those agricultural products. I do Mr. NELSON. Lee' the paragraph be passed oyer. . not know that they will do so when it comes to the matter of The VICE-PRESIDE1'TT. Paragraph 08 will be passed over. free hides, but whether they do or not-- Mr. ALDRICH. I suggest that the paragraph be read. It l\Ir. DOLLIVER. What do you think about it? will have to be read at some time. Let it be read now. Mr. McCUMBER. I am inclined to think some of them will The VICE-PRESIDE~TT. The Secretary will read as re- stay with me upon that proposition, although others may not. quested. But I want to acquit them of anything provincial in the mat- The Secretary read paragraphs 98 and 99. ter of agricultural products. l\Ir. SMITH of Michigan. Let paragraph 99 go over. Mr. ALDRICH. If the Senator from Iowa will pardon me The VICE-PRESIDENT. It will be passed oyer at the for a moment, as he is speaking of the duty on hides, I suppose request of the Senator from Michigan. I am responsible for the present duty on hides. After the The Secretary proceeded to read paragraph 100, Dingley bill had been considered by the subcommittee of which Mr. OVERl\IAN. Let the paragraph go over. I was chairman and of which the la.te Senator from Iowa, Mr. Mr. KEAN. Let it be read. Allison, was a member, the late Senator from Iowa said to Mr. SCOTT. Yes; let it be read. me- The VICE-PRESIDENT. It will be read, and then the request Mr. BORAH. We over here can not hear, and we are yery be complied with. much interested in the question of hides. • The Secretary read paragraph 100. l\fr. . ALDRICH. The subcommittee had passed over the The VICE-PRESIDENT. The paragraph will be passed over. House provision, which had put hides upon the free list. After I Mr. SMITH of l\fichigan. Does that go over? we had got through the consideration of the bill, the late Sen- The VICE-PRESIDENT. It is passed over at the request of ator from Iowa, .Mr. Allison, said to me: "Really, you ought the Senator from North Carolina. to vote with me for a duty on hides. The people of my State The Secretary read paragraph 101. are very much in favor of a duty on hides, and I will consider Mr. KEAN. The junior Senator from Minnesota [Mr. CL.APP], it a great personal favor if you will put it in the bill, and re- who has just left the Chamber, asked me to have this paragraph port it in that way." go over. I could not resist the argument which he made to me as a The VICE-PRESIDENT. The paragraph will be passed over protectionist, and it was my vote- that put the duty on hides at the request of the Senator from New Jersey, on behalf of in the existing law; and the bill was so reported to the Senate, the junior Senator from Minnesota. and was concurred in by he House of Representatives. So I The Secretary read para_graphs 102, 103, 104, and 105. think my record is pretty clear upon the question of a duty on The v.ext amendment of the Committee on Finance was, on hides. page 29, line 12, after the word " in," to strike out " sections 1 Mr. DOLLIVER. By some means that duty, which seems to or 2 of this act" and insert "this section," so as to make the have operated fairly well, has disappeared. paragraph read: Mr. ALDRICH: It has not disappeared-not from this body 106. Opera and field , telescopes, microscopes, photographic and not from this bill. and projection lenses and optical instruments, and frames or mountings Mr. DOLLIVER. But it does not come into this body in- for the same; all the foregoing not specially provided for in this sec- dorsed by the wisdom and judgment of the committee. tion, 45 per cent ad valorem. Mr. ALDRICH. I have stated in the hearing, I am sure, of The amendment was agreed to. the Senator from Iowa-because he must have been here, I take Mr. GORE. Has the paragraph relating to microscopes been it-that the committee will report amendments to each one of reached? I intended. to offer an amendment to the paragraph. the three items; and while I am not gifted with the power of The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator ask that it be prophecy, I believe that the committee will report the present passed over? law on hides. Mr. GORE. Yes. '] Mr. DOLLIVER. I beg the pardon of the Senate for having • The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from Oklahoma asks trespassed, when I did not intend to do so, upon the discus- that it be passed over. sion which I intend to take up at a later time in reference to Mr. ALDRICH. What paragraph is it? the textile schedules. I shall take it up in the broadest spirit The VICE-PRESIDENT. Paragraph 106. of charity and good will toward everybody, because I certainly l\Ir. KEAN. In regard to microscopes. shall take it up with a firm confidence in our Republican doc- The VICE-PRESIDENT. Paragraph 108 will be passed over, trine, and if I go astray it will be not for the want of fidelity at the request of the Senator from Oklahoma. to our faith, but for a want of the wisdom that is necessary to The reading of the bill was•resumed. apply our doctrine to practical affairs. The next amendment of the Committee on Finance was, on Mr. WARREN. Mr. President, I feel sure from what the page 29, line 17, after the word "manufactures," to insert "of Senator from Iowa has said that he expects to protect all inter- glass or paste or;" in the same line, after the word "glass," ests, and certainly those of the people engaged in agriculture. to insert "or paste;" and in line 19, after the word "in," to l\Ir. DOLLIVER. Wool raising is the sixth agricultural in- strike out "sections 1 or 2 of this act" and insert "this sec­ dustry of our people, and I certainly would never be found tion," so as to make the paragraph read: wanting in an honest interest in its welfare. I feel the same 107. Stained or painted glass windows, or parts thereof, and all mir­ way toward the factory, although I am sorry to say the manu- rors, not exceeding ·in size 144 square inches, with or without frames if I h tl · t ted h' or cases, and all glass or manufactures of glass or paste or of which f actu rer o f woo1 en goo d s, ave correc Y lil erpre lS glass or paste is the component material of chief value, not specially present complaint, feels that he is being ground to pieces in provided for in this section, 45 per cent ad valorem. the intricacies of the present Dingley tariff schedules. 1\Ir. w ARREN. I wish to say that I hope and believe the Mr. STO~TE. · I desire to offer an amendment to the para- Sena tor wishes to protect both the grower and the manufac- graph. turer. Certainly I do. While neither the woolgrowers nor the 'l'he VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from l\lis ouri manufacturers haye been entirely satisfied with the Dingley ask that the paragraph go over? Act and will not be with any bill at any time, naturally, be- Mr. STONE. Yes. · cause there are diyerse interests in subdivisions, more par- The VICE-PRESIDE1'"'T. It will be passed over, at the re- ' ticularly of the manufacturers, I think it is the duty of those quest of the Senator from Missouri. engaged in growing wool to see that the duties for the manu- The reading of the bill was resumed. facturer are sufficient, so that first these duties can continue The next amendment of the Committee on Finance was, on for the grower and that the manufacturer can be as successful page 29, line 21, after the words "ad \alorem," to insert "opal in the management of his business as other manufacturers. or cylinder glass tiles or tiling, 60 per cent ad va1orern," so as I take it for granted the Senator is not going to be swayed to make the paragraph read: by the individual opinions or grievances of some one class of 108. Fusible enamel, 25 per cent ad valorem; opal or cylinder glass manufacturers, but is going to consider what is said by all the tiles or tiling, 60 per cent ad valorem. manufacturers-take the carpet men, the worsted men, the · The amendment was agreed to. 1909~ CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- SENATE. il467·

The next amendment was, on page 29, after line 23, to strike The next amendment was, on page 32, line 6, after the word out the subhead " l\farble and stone, and manufactures of." " in," to strike out " .sections 1 or 2 of this act" and insert The amendment was agreed to. "this section," so as to make the paragraph read: 1\lr. PILES. I ask that paragraphs 109 and 110 be passed 1,5. Slates, slate chimney pieces, mantels, slabs for tables, roofing over. slates, and all other manufactures of slates, not specially provided for The VICE-PRESIDENT. They will be passed over after they in this section, 20 per cent ad valorem. shall have been read. The amendment was agreed to. The next amendment of the Committee on Finance was, on Mr. ALDRICH. I suggest that the clerks have authority to page 29, line 25, paragraph 109, after the word "marble," to amend the bill wherever ,this particular amendment or similar strike out " or limestone susceptible of polish and ordinarily amendments occur. It will save considerable time. used for interior work" and insert "breccia, and onyx;" on The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from Rhode Island page 30, line 1, after the word " foot," to strike out " onyx in asks unanimous consent that wherever a provision like that in block, rough or squared, $1 per cubic foot;" in line 3, after the lines 6 and 7, or .similar amendments are encountered, they be word "marble," to insert "breccia, and;" in the same line, after considered agreed to. Is there objection? The Chair hears the word "onyx," to strike out ."or such limestone;" in line 5, none, and it is so ordered. after the word "marble," to insert "breccia, or;" in the same Mr. LA FOLLETTE. I wish to request the Senator from line, after the word "onyx," to strike out : ' or such limestone;" Rhode Island to have a reprint of this document laid upon the in line 7, after the word "thickness," to strike out "ten " and table of Senators to-morrow morning, and to include in it-it insert "eight;" in line 9, after the word "thickness," to strike will take but little trouble to make the addition-two addi­ out " twelve and one-half" and insert "ten;" in line 11, after tional columns .taken from the census-the value of the manu­ the word " thickness," to strike out " fifteen " and insert factured articles produced in this country and the wages paid. "twelve and one-half;" in line 14, after the word "marble," to Mr. ALDRICH. That is impossible. insert "breccia, or;" in the same line, after the word "onyx," Mr. LA FOLLETTE. Tho e columns can be added-- to strike out " or stone;" in line 15, after the word "loose," to Mr. ALDRICH. I think it would take six months at least to strike out "one-half" and insert ".one-fourth," and in line 17, get the data. before the word "cents," to strike out "ten" and insert "five," Mr. LA FOLLETTE. It is in the document upon -tlie-sefi: so as to make the paragraph read: ator's table. Mr. ALDRICH. Oh, no. 109. Marble, breccia, and onyx, in block, rough or squared only, 65 cents per cubic foot; marble, breccia, and onyx, sawed or dressed, over Mr. LA FOLLETTE. Oh, yes. It simply neiessitates mak­ 2 inches in thickness, . 1 per cubic foot; slabs or paving tiles of marble, ing the additions to this table as already prepared. breccia, or onyx, containing not less than 4 superficial inches, if not Mr. ALDRICH. There is not in existence the comparative more than 1 inch in thickness, 8 ' cents per superficial foot ; if more than 1 inch and not more than H inches in thickness, 10 cents per wages, so far as I know anything about it. superficial foot; if more than 1! inches and not more than 2 inches in Mr. NELSON. Is it not in the last return of the Census thickne s, 12~ cents per superficial foot; if rubbed in whole or in part, Office on manufactures? 2 cents per superficial foot in addition ; mosaic cubes of marble, breccia, or onyx, not exceeding 2 cubic inches in size, if loose, one-fourth of 1 Mr. ALDRICH. Oh, no. cent per pound and 20 per cent ad valorem; if attached to paper or Mr. NELSON. I think the Senator will find it there. other material, 5 cents per superficial foot and 35 per cent ad valorem. Mr. LA FOLLETTE. The value of the manufactured product The next amendment was, on page 30, after line 18, to strike · is given in the little pamphlet which the Senator holds in his out: hand, and I am informed that from the tabulations made _in· the Census Office the wages paid in each of those industries can 110. Manufactures of alabaster, jet, limestone susceptible of polish, malachite, marble, or onyx, including clock cases, with or without be furnished at once and added to this schedule, and it would movements, not specially .provided for in sections 1 or 2 of this act, be a very material and helpful addition for the information GO per cent ad valorem_ of the Senate. I hope the Senator from Rhode Island will con- And insert: sent that that be done. 110. Marble, breccia, onyx, alabaster, and jet, wholly or partly manu­ Mr. ALDRICH. I will consent to its being done as soon as factured into monuments, benches, vases, and other articles, or of it can be. We stated on yesterday that we would have this which these substances or either of them is the component material of information as soon as we could get it together. But it will be chief value, and all articles composed wholly or in chief value of agate It rock crystal, or other semiprecious stones, except such as are cut into a pretty difficult task. will be prepared as soon as pos­ shapes and forms fitting them expressly for use in the construction of sible, but I do not know how soon. jewelry, not specially provided for in this section, 50 per cent ad Mr. LA FOLLETTE. As the Senator was addressing the valorem. other portion of the Senate, on the other side of the Chamber, • The VICE-PRESIDENT. Paragraphs 109 and 110 will go I was not able to hear whether he consented that this might over at the request of the Senator from Washington. be done. The Secretary resumed the reading of the bill. I Mr. ALDRICH. I do consent as soon as the information can The next amendment of the Committee on Finance was, on be got together. If it is already in existence-- page 31, after line 8, to strike out: · Mr. LA FOLLETTE. Of course if it can not be furnished, 112. Freestone, granite, sandstone, and other building or monu­ that is the end of it; but if it can be done, I ask that it be done mental stone, except marble, onyx, and limestone susceptible of polish as an addition to the table. and ordinarily used for interior work, unmanufactured or undressed. Mr. NEWLANDS. I wish to ask the Senator from Wisconsin not specially provided for in sections 1 or 2 of this act, 6 cents per cubic foot ; if hewn, dressed, or polished, 50 per cent ad valorem. whether he desires the value of the domestic production of each article or the quantity? Yesterday it was understood the chair­ And insert: man of the committee, at my suggestion, stated tlutt a column 112. Freestone, granite, sandstone, Hauteville, Istrian, and similar would be added, giving the quantity of each. limestones, and all other monumental or building stone, except marble, breccla, and onyx, not specially provided for in this section, hewn 1\fr. LA FOLLETTE. I think it would be well to have both

Mr. NEWLANDS. It is impossible to bear the Sena.tor. That an iron bars, blooms, billets, slabs, or loops, tn the manufacture of which charcoal is used as fne1, shall be subject to a duty of· $8 The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from Minnesota will per ton. please speak a little bit louder. • Mr. 1'."'"ELSON. I got my figures from the Statistical Abstract The amendment was agreed to. of 1907, the annual statistical abstract, the last one published. The. next amendment was, on page 33, line 19, after the word It giyes the ad valorem rate on unmanufactured wool at 40.93 "steel,'' to strike out "whether plain or punched, or fitted for for the tiscal yea.r 1907, and for the manufactures of woolen use" and insert " but not assembled, or manufactured, or ad­ goods it gives 89.42 per cent ad valorem. These are ad valorem vanced beyond hammering, rolling, or casting,'' so as to read : 119. Beams, girders, joists, angles, channels, car-truck channels, T Ti rates. The Sena tor will find the :figures on page 512 of the columns and posts or parts or sections of columns and posts, deck ana Statistical Abstract of 1907. bulb beams, and building forms, together with all other structural Mr. NEWLA:NDS. I should like to ask the Senator from shapes of iron or steel, but not assembled, or manufactured, or advanced Rhode Island how this a-verage percentage is obtained. I find beyond hammering, rolling, or casting. that on page 51 of the wool schedule there are hardly any duties The amendment was agreed to. below 40 per cent, and most of the duties are above 100 per The next amendment was, on page 33, line 22, paragraph 119, cent. after the word "casting,'' to strike out "three-tenths" and in­ Mr. ALDRICH. What page? sert "four-tenths,'' so as to read "four-tenths of 1 cent per Mr. NEWLANDS. Page 51; and on the following page, 52, pound." • I find that all the duties are in excess of 70 per cent, and almost Mr. CRAWFORD. I ask that the amendment be passed all in excess of 100 per cent; and on page 53 I find that none over. of the duties are below 60 per cent, and that most of them are The VICE-PRESIDENT. Without objection, the amendment above 70 per cent. I can not understand how this calculation will be passed over, at the request of the Senator from South of the average percentage of 58 is made under those conditions, Dakota. Does the Senator request that the paragraph or simply for whilst I have not ma.de the computation,. it would strike the amendment be passed over? me that the average would be higher than that stated at the Mr. ORAWFORD. The amendment, in line 22. close of the computation. The VICE-PRESIDENT. It will be passed over. Mr. ALDRICH. I have no doubt that the computations are The next amendment was, on page 33, line 25, after the word mathematically correct. The figures in this statement include "in," to strike out "sections 1 or 2 of this act" and insert both wool and woolens. "this section," so as to read: Mr. NEWLANDS. I undersfand that; but if the Senator 120. Boiler or .other plate iron or steel except crucible plate steel will look over these duties, item by item, I think be will come and saw plates hereinafter provided for m1 this section, not thinner than No. 10 wire gauge, cut or sheared to shape or otherwise, or un­ to the conclusion that the percentage is much higher than 58 sheared, and skelp iron or steel sheared or rolled in grooves, valued at per cent. 1 cent per pound or less, three-tenths of 1 cent per pound. Mr. SUOOT. If the Senator will look on page 51, he will 1\fr. PE]l.1ROSE. I ask that the paragraph be passed over. find the revenues under the present law $9,904,985. That is on The VICE-PRESIDENT. The paragraph will be passed over, the third line. There is an average of 44.52 per cent. Then at the request of the ~enator from Pennsylvania. if he will turn to the next page, he will find a duty of 128 per The pext amendment was, on page 34, line 16, after the word cent on $27,399 and 71 per cent on $21,204. It is a fair aver­ "in," to strike out "sections 1 or 2 of this act" and insert age. That is the reason why the average of the whole is as "this section;" and in line 17, after the words "ad valorem,'' reported. to strike out "antifriction ball forgings of iron or steel, or of Mr. NEWLANDS. I understand. combined iron and steel," and insert "anti.friction balls, ball The next amendment was, in Schedule C, on page 32, after bearings, and roller bearings, of iron or steel or other metal, line 8, to insert : finished or unfinished,'' so as to make the paragraph read: 115~. Iron ore, including manganlferous iron ore, and the dross or 121. Iron or steel anchors or parts thereof, 1 cent per pound; forg­ residuum from burnt pyrites, 25 cents per ton: Provided, That in levy­ ings of iron or steel, or of combined iron and steel, but not machined, ing and collecting the duty on iron ore no deduction shall be made tooled, or otherwise advanced in condition by any process or operation from the weight of the ore on account of moisture which may be chem­ subsequent to the forging process, not sp.ecially provided for in this ically or physically combined therewith. section, 30 per cent ad valorem; antifriction balls, ball bearings, and roller bearings, of iron or steel or other metal, finished or unfinished, Mr. DU PONT. I ask that paragraphs 115! and 116 be passed 45 per cent ad valorem. over when read. The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Secretary will read paragraph The amendment was agreed to. 116. The next amendment was, on page 3~ line 23, afteT the word The next amendment was,. on page 32,. line 19, in paragraph "in,'' to strike out "sections 1 or 2 of this act" and insert 116, before the word " but," to strike out " iron in pigs, iron "this section,'' so as to read: 122. Hoop, band, or scroll iron or steel, not otherwise provided for in kentledge, and spiegeleisen, $2.50 per ton; wrought and cast this section, valued at 3 cents per pound or less, 8 inches or less in scrap iron, and scrap steel, 50 cents per ton,'~ and insert "Iron width, at less than three-eighths of 1 inch thick and not thinner than· in pigs, iron kentledge, spiegeleisen, ferro-manganese, wrought No. 10 wire gauge, three-tenths of 1 cent per pound; thinner than No. 10 wire gauge and not thinner than No. 20 wire gauge, four-tenths and cast scrap iron, and scrap steel, $2.50 per ton,'' so as to of 1 cent per pound ; thinner than No. 20 wire gauge, six-tenths of 1 make the pa.ragraph read : cent per pound. 116. Iron in pigs, iron kentledge, spiegeleisen, ferro-manganese, WTought and cast scrap iron, and scrap steel, $2.50 per ton; but nothing The amendment was agreed to. shall be deemed scrap iron or scrap steel except waste or refuse iron or The next amendment was, on page 35, line 10, after the word steel in such physical form as to- be fit only to be remanufactured. " made,'' to strike out " steel bands or strips, untempered, suita­ The VICE-PRESIDENT. The# paragraphs will be passed ble for making band saws, hack saws, or butchers' saws, 1! over, at tile request of the Senator from Delaware. cents per pound and 20 per cent ad valorem; if tempered, or Mr. Sll\Il\IONS. I wish to ask what was done with paragraph tempered and polished, 3 cents per pound and 20 per cent ad 115!? valorerri,'' so as to make the proviso read : The VICE-PRESIDENT. Paragraphs 115! and 116 are passed Pr()'Vid.ed, That barrel hoops of iron or steel, and boap or band h"on over, at the request of the Senator from Delaware. or hoop or band steel flared, splayed, or punched, with or without buckles or fastenings, shall pay one-tenth of 1 cent per pound more The next amendment was, on page 32, line 23, after the word duty than that imposed on the hoop or band iron or steel from which " iron," to insert '' muck bars; " and on page 33, line 2, after the they are made. word" diameter," to strike out" four-tenths" and.insert" three­ :Mr. OLIVER. Let that be passed o-ver. tenths," so as to make the pa1·agr_aph read : The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from Pennsylvania 117. Bar iron, muck bars square iron, rolled or hammered, compris­ ing flats not less than 1 inch wide nor less than three-eighths of 1 inch asks that the amendment be passed over. It will go over. thick, ro~ iron not less than seven-sixteenths of 1 inch in diameter, The Secretary read paragraph 123, as follows : three-tenths of 1 cent per pound. 123. Hoop or band iron, or hoop or band steel, cut to lengths, or The amendment was agreed to. wholly or partly manufactured into hoops or ties, coated or not coated The next amendment was, on page 33, line 6, after the word with paint or any other preparation, with or without buckles or fasten­ ings, for baling cotton or any other commodity, three-tenths of 1 cent "in," to strike out "sections 1 or 2 of this act" and insert per pound. "this section; ,,. in line 12, after the word "billets," to st1ike Mr. SIMMONS. I ask that paragraph 123 be passed over. out u or sizes or shapes of any kind " and insert " slabs or loops; " and in line 15, efore the word "dollars,'' to strike out The VICE-PRESIDENT. It will be passed over. Mr. 1\IcLAURIN. Mr. President, it was my intention to ask " ten " and insert " eiglit,'' so as to make the paragraph read : that that paragraph be passed over-- 118. Round iron. In coils or rods, less than seven-sixteenths of 1 inch in diameter. and bars or shapes of rolled or hammered iron, not specially The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from North Carolina provided for in this section, six-tenths of 1 cent per pound : PrO'Vided, has already made that request. That all iron in slabs, blooms, loops, or other forms less finished than Iron in bars, and more advan'Ced than pig iron, except castings, shall Mr. 1\fcLAURIN. I know, but I wish to make one suggestion be subject to duty of four-tenths of 1 cent per pound : P1·ovided fiirth.,er, in reference to it. 1909. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- SENA.TR [1469

The tariff is reduced in this paragraph from .five-tenths of 1 Mr. SCOTT'. What became -of paragraph 122? cent per pound to three-tenths o.1; 1 cent per pound. I intend nt The VICE-PRESIDENT. The -amendment was passed over. a later day to offer an amendment to strike out the paragra.ph, Mr. SCOTT. I want to have the entire paragraph passed and put this article -0n the free list-that is, ties and bagging. over. I notice that the tax on ties hu.s produced $3,584.10. It is The VICE-PRESIDENT. Very good; it will be passed over. estimated that under this law it will produce $2,150.46. So it Mr. SIMMONS. Mr. President, yesterday when the Senate can not be for the purpose of raising revenue. It can only be had under c-0nsideration the .questi-0n of a duty upon cotton­ for the purpose of "protection," so called. It really is not pro­ seed oil, I came into the Senate just at the -conclusion of a col­ tection, but it is an extortion upon the cotton preducers of this loquy betw~en the Senator from Rhode Island [Mr. ALDRICH] country. The cotton farmers of the country .have no protec­ and the Senator from Georgia [Ur. RA-coN]. The Senator from tion in the world. They can not have any protection of their Rhode Island, it appears from the RECORD, had read the amount cotton, because there is no cotton of any considerable quantity of imports -of cotton-seed oil for the year 1908, showing that raised anywhere else. They .are not protected, as was stated there was imported into this eormtry -during that year only yesterday, by a tariff on cotton-'seed on, for you may take the .about 200 gallons of oil, and that the duty amounted to only tariff off -0f cotton-seed oil and there will be no considerable about $8, I think. I was not present at the time the Senator amount of cotton-seed oil that can be imported into this ce-un­ iread these statistics, .h11.ving -entered the Chamber just in time try. So there is no competition between the producers of cotton­ to hear the response -0f the senior Senator from Georgi.a to an seed oil in this country and any foreign IJroducers of that inquiry made by the Senator from Ilhode Island as to whether product. - he was willing that this article should go upon the free list. As I have said, this duty raises no revenue. It is a tax The Senator from Georgia expressed the opinion that if the upon the farmers who -produce <;ott-0n of something like ·$6,-000,­ statistics of imports given by the Sena.tor from Rh-Ode Island, "000 a year. The tax is taken out of the pockets of those men. which I had not heard, were true, it would seem that it ought I see some gentleman here shaking his head. I know a little to go upon the free list. I interrupted the colloquy at this more about it, probably, than he does. I li\e in a section where point and ·stated, as SenatoTs will recall, that I should like t-0 cotton is being produced, and I do not care what the experts ha-ve that "J)aragraph go over, that I wished J)OSsibly to make say about it, I know something on this question myself lndi- .some remarks upon it, and that, so far a-s I was concerned, .I ·vid.ually; and ·every Senator here from the cotton-:}Jroductng was "D.Ot willing that this article .should be put upon the free list. States knows that it adds about 50 cents a bale to the cost of Afterwards I learned that the Senator from .Rhode Island bagging an1i tying cotton. had quoted the statistics of imports for the year 1908. I had There are about 12,000,000 bales of cotton produced every .not myself examined those statistics-that is, for 1:908-and J: year. I do not think, if it is the intenti-0n to benefit the cotton .supposed 1l.i the time Qf my interruptiun that the .senator had producers of the Soutb, that you can benefit them better than given the statistics of 190"7, with wJ11ch I was famili.a.r~ because by taking off the tariff on bagging and ties. Tt -can not benefit I recalled that when the .Senator from Rhode Island preseRted them, as l have already said, by putting a tarill'. on cotton-seed the bill and made his '.Statement to the Senate, he ,explained to oil It does not protect them. the Sena:te that his bill was framed upon the basis of the im­ I shal1 at a later day, when I introduce the amendment, make ports of 1907, ·and the Book of Estimates prepared under the some further observations on the subject. direction of the Finance Oommittee, :and furnished each Senator Mr. HALE. What would the Senator desire, then-that this for use in the ·consideration -0f this bill, Js based on the imports oe put on the free list? of the year 1907 and not for 1908.. Mr. McLA URIN. On tbe free list. I do not know wby the Senator from Rhode Island, under .Mr. HALE. The Senator will move that? these circumstances, selected the imports of this article for the Mr. MoLAURIN. I will. I think ·the Senator nimself ought y-ear 1.908 instead-of the year 1907, as the basis of his 'Statement. to agree that it is not right to tax the :producers of this staple Mr. ALDRICH. !f had before me, if the Senator desires an something like ·$6,000,000 a year. And it does not go into the answer, a _statement of all the importations, including 1908. Treasury of the United States, because on the ties alone we get The importations for 1908 are not in any printed form, but I something like $3,"580 and on the bagging $118,000. . had the statement, and I took the last year. I did not intend Mr. KEAN. Does the Senator desire also to have cotton bag­ to mali:e aB.y unfair cumparison. ging _pu't on the free list? Mr. SIMMONS. 1 do not mean to suggest that the Senator 1\fr. McLAURIN. 1 do; bagging and ties. intended any unfair comparison. I am referring to 'this merely Mr. KEAN. If on the free list, what dees the Senator think to show that I thought at the time I made the statement re­ the price would .be if none were manufactured here? .ferred to above that the Senator had quoted the statistics for Mr. McL.AURIN. The price of -what! 1907, and I did not discover the contrary until afterwards. lf I ~Ir. KE.AN. Of cotton bagging. had known at that 1im.e that he had read the statistics for 1908, l\.Ir. J\"lcLAURIN. I think it would be .far less than lt ls. We I should have brought ·to the attention -0f the Senate the im­ have now to pay about 50 cents a bale on fill the cotton produced ports of 1907, and have made a .statement as to the probable in the cotton-producing States, amounting to .about $6,000,000. cause of the falling off of those imports during the pa.st year. Mr. KEAN. In other words, if none is manufactured in the I do not know, of ceurse, positively what caused this decline United States, y-0u think you could buy it cheaper·? in imports, but I imagine it was the result of market condi­ Mr. 1\IdLAURIN. There are about 156,000,000 p·ounds, I think, tions of this countcy, brought on by the panic. It is probable of ties manufactured in the United States. that the ·supply was ·so great that the price was depressed, and Mr. KEAN. I -refer to cotton bagglng. there was no inducement to importation. Mr. McLAURIM I can give the Senator statement .of the a I wish now to call the attention of the Senate to the im­ fn.ctories that produce cotton bagging in the United States. portations of this -pr-0duct during the year 1907. The amount Georgia has 4 factories, Indiana 1, Kentucky 1., Louisiana 2, coming in that year was not very great, but it did produce some Maine 2, Massachusetts 1, Michigan 1_, Missouri 1, New Hamp­ revenue, and I have reason to believe that it is the beginning of shire 1, New York 4, North Carolina 4, Pennsylvania 1, South a sharp competition in this product ·as soon as normal busi­ -Carolina 1, Tennessee 3, and -Virginia 3. As to the cotton-bale ness conditions ·are restored which · will result in constantly tles, Alabama has 1 establishment manufacturing it, Connecti­ cut 1, Illinois 3, Maine 1, and Pennsylvania 5. increasing importation and constantly increasing revenues. Mr. KEAN. There is some ·cotton bagging manufactured in Before I .read the figures, however, I wish to· say that I did crew "Jersey also. not mean when I stated that J was opposed to this article goin.g Mr. 1\IcLAURIN. I hope the Senator from New Jersey dees upon the free list that I was in favor of the 25 pe1· cent a<1 not want to impose a tax upon our people to keep up .fac­ valorem duty imposed in the pending bill. I think that duty tories--- entil"ely too high. Nor did I intend to ·say that I was in favor of the 15 per cent duty imposed by the Payne bill I think that Mr. KEAN. Certainly not; I want your cotton to be grown duty is too high. Nor did I .mean that I was in favor of the .and to be marketed in the easiest manner possible. duty of 4 cents per gallon imposed in the Dingley bill. I think Mr. McLA.URIN. Yes; ·and I want it to be grown and to be that duty too high. I simply meant that I was in favor of a marketed for tbe benefit of the people who labor to produce it, small duty as against putting this article upon the fi·ee list. I because it takes about thirteen months in the _year to _produce think for the ·present 2 or 3 cents per -gallon would be sufficient -cotton. - That amount would not Interfere with importations, and if the Paragraph 124 was read, as follows: anticipation o"f ·the cotton-seed oil manufacturers and my own 124. Railway bars, made of iTon or steel, and railway bars made in are realized as 'to ·future competition in this p1:oduct betw€'en part .of steel, T rails and punched iron ·or steel flat rails, seven-fortieths of 1 eent per pound; railway fish-plates OT sp.llce·bars, made IJf iron or our mills and those of Germany, it would hring in a reasontibJe steel, two-tenths of 1 cent per pound. amount of revenue. · 1470 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. '.APRIL 2 2,

Now let me give the importations for 1907. The amount of appeal to have the duty taken off cotton-seed oil, and the cotton-seed oil imported into this country in 1907 was 26,131 reason they give is that they use it largely in the manufacture gallons, valued at $9,342. of soap, and that the American price fluctuates and is some­ The duty collected during that year was $1,049. It is esti­ times too high. They say in effect if this duty is taken off they mated that the duty imposed by the present bill will yield a will be able to buy this material from abroad at a lesser price, revenue of $2,325 during next fiscal year. creating the impression that in that way they will be able to Mr. President, the Senator from Rhode Island stated yester­ cheapen the price of soap. I refer to this simply to show that day that a number of manufacturers of cotton-seed oil ha~ ap­ we may expect importations of this product, and I see no reason peared before the Finance Committee and asked that a higher why we should not derive some revenue from it. duty be imposed upon this article. That fact shows an appre­ Mr. President, I repeat, I do not ask for an increase of the hen ion on the part of manufacturers of cotton-seed oil in the rate of duty upon it. I think there is ab olutely no justifica­ South that tho. e importations will increase in the next few tion for the increase of the present duty. The present ad years and I think the facts justify that apprehension, though valorem duty is about 11 cents, I believe. The Payne bill I do ~ot think there is any need for an increase in the present as passed by the House raised it to 15 per cent, and the bill now duty. before the Senate raises it to 25 per cent. As I stated before, We raise :in this country about three-fourths of all of the I think that even the old duty might be reduced. I am opposed cotton consumed in the world. The balance of it is raised in to putting the article absolutely on the free list. other countries. The people of other countries are using these The truth is, Mr. President, I do not take kindly to the free seed for the purpose of making oil just as we are. Germany is list as a rule. There are two lists in our tariff bills of late years at present manufacturing this oil and is preparing to greatly which I do not fancy-one not much and the other not at all. I expand its operation and output by importing seed from this do not believe in a large free list. The ablest advocate of a country. revenue tariff this country has ever known was the great author A large manufacturer of this product stated to me this morn­ of the Walker tariff. He was not friendly to a large free list. ing in the presence of a delegation of oil. manufacturers that He believed that the best way to distribute the burdens of tariff Germany is preparing right now to do with respect to cott~n taxation was to extend, not to contract, the dutiable list. Be­ seed and cotton-seed oil exactly what Germany and certam sides, l\Ir. President, the free list at this time is generally a other European states have for some time been doing with re­ cover for higher duties to those who enjoy the benefits of pro­ spect to wheat and flour. We all know that certain European tection. It is one of the favorite ways of indirectly increasing countries are discriminating in their tariffs on wheat and flour, the protection gi\en the favored beneficiaries of that system. so as to keep out our flour and let in our wheat; that they admit Having secured a large rate of protection upon his product, the wheat free; and that they impose a heavy duty upon flour in manufacturer too often seeks to add to that rate by having his order that their own mills instead of ours may make the flour, raw material put upon the free list. The farmer is chiefly the not only to supply their domestic demand, but to be sold in the man who supplies the raw material, and the effect of a large rest of the world in competiton with our flour. free list tends to increase his tariff burdens without giving him I have had many letters from the owners of flour mills in my any of its compensating benefits. It not unfrequently happens State calling my attention to this fact, and expressing serious that putting the manufacturer's raw material on the free list apprehension of injury to their business on account of the converts a protective duty into a prohibitory duty. In a very lower cost at which Geri;nany seems to be able to manufacture practical sense it may be said that the free list, when used in this product. Now, the gentleman referred to a while ago stated this way, together with a prohibit?ry list, becomes one of the to me and I am advised from other sources that the statement mainstays and props of the protective system. is tru~, that the German tariff discriminates between cotton seed In the States, when we tax, we tax everything, upon the and cotton-seed oil just as it does between wheat and flour; and theory that all property ought to bear its equal burden in rais­ with the same object in view, it admits the seed free and imposes ing the revenue necessary to support the Government. If any­ a duty of 30 per cent on the oil. thing is exempt it is exempt by reason of special considerations He also stated to me that before the end of this year which must be shown in order to take it out of the general rule, Germany would have completed and ready for operation cotton­ which is that all property must bear its part of taxation. seed oil mills with a capacity of 500,000 tons of cotton seed per Mr. President, in my judgment, in raising revenue to support year. This is a mere beginning. What does it mean? It means the Government by import duties, we ought to apply, as far as that Germany intends-and her example will probably be fol­ possible, the rule of taxation of the States so as to distribute lowed by other European countries-to become an importer of the burdens and benefits, if any, of government. The dutiable our cotton seed just as she is an importer of our raw cotton, list should be the rule, the free list the exception. Everything and a manufacturer of cotton-seed oil just as she is a manu­ should go on the dutiable list and bear its part of the burdens facturer of cotton goods, and that she intends to enter into the and benefits of tariff taxation, unless some good and sufficient same competition with us in our own markets and the balance reason can be shown, as in the case of the States, why it should of the world in cotton-seed oil as in cotton goods. be relieved of the burdens, or why it should not participate in It is said that because we have three-fourths of· the cotton the benefits of the system. - seed of the world we need not fear competition with Germany in the production of cotton-seed oil. We produce the same The Senator from Rhode Island [Mr. ALDRICH] suggests that proportion of the total supply of cotton seed as we do of the his committee might be disposed to allow southern Senators to total supply of raw cotton. Germany, France, and England have their way about this schedule, and let it go on the free buy our raw cotton, manufacture it, and sell it in competition list if they desired. I suspect, Mr. President, that there are a with us, not only in the world, but in our own markets. In great many people inside and outside this Chamber who have tact we impose a high duty upon cotton goods to keep them no objection to allowing the products of the South to enjoy frod:i underselling us in our own markets. What is there to the blessings of going on the free list. It is to the advantage of differentiate the case of cotton-seed oil from cotton goods? cert::lin interests to have some of our products on the free list, If they can buy our raw cotton and manufacture cotton goods while theirs are protected. For instance, Colgate & Co. would so much cheaper than we can that they can undersell us in our like free oil to make soap, but they do not want free soap. We own markets, why can they not do the same with respect to appreciate the tentative offer of the Sena.tor from Rhode Island cotton-seed oil? to allow us to exercise our pleasure with regard to this article. we do not make tariff bills every day, nor every year. There I hope the Senator from Rhode Island will be equally consider­ may have been a time when we thought we were secure against ate of us when we come to fix the duties upon the other prod­ competition with European cotton goods made out of our raw ucts in which we may, as a section of the counh·y, be especially cotton, but we found we were not. The same thing may occur, interested, such as lumber, for instance. and I believe it will occur, with respect to our cotton-seed oil. Mr. President, I simply desire to add that my only purpose in Why not be prepared with a moderate duty and detive such takinO' the floor was to put the facts with reference to this mat­ revenue as that duty may produce and extend to the home in­ ter before the Senate, feeling that the facts given by the Senator dustries such incidental protection as it may afford? from Rhode Island on yesterday might lead to a misunderstand­ l\fr. President, that there is a probability of large increases ing both as to importations of this product and of my position in importations of cotton-seed oil from abroad, and that foreign with respect thereto. mills are now ready for competition with us, is also shown by Mr. l\IcLAURIN. l\Ir. President, I am glad the Senator from the demand of the manufacturers of soap who use cotton seed North Carolina has advised us of the fact that the Government oil in their product that this article be put upon the free list. of Germany admits free of duty cotton eed, and that probably, There is printed in the hearings before the Ways and Means as I understand the Senator from North Carolina, the manu­ Committee of the House n very significant letter from tq.e great facturers of that country will take something like 500,000 tons soa1H11anufacturing concern of Colgate & Co. They earnestly of cotton seed. 1909. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 14711

.Mr. SIM.MONS. I do not know whether I understand the posed of iron, steel, copper, nickel, or other metal with layers of other metal or metals imposed thereon by forging, hammering, rolling, or ob er-ration of the Senator. What r did say was that I was welding, 40 per cent ad valorem. advised by a gentleman in the delegation that Germany was now The amendment was agreed to. constructing, or had partly constructed, mills for the manufac­ The next amendment was, on page 37, line 1, before the word ture of cotto11-seed oil that would have a capacity of 500,000 " cents," to strike out " three-fourths" and insert " one-half; " tons a year. in line 7, after the word" than," to insert" is imposed by this Mr. McLAURIN. I understood the Senator to say that they section on; " and in line 8, after the word '' steel," to strike out would ship that amount of cotton seed from this country to " of corresponding gauge or value," so as to. make the paragraph Ger.i;nany. That is a very gratifying .statement to me, and, so read: far from complaining of it, I am glad of it. It opens another 127. Sheets of iron or steel, polished, planished, or glanced, by what­ market for the cotton producer of the South. ever name des-ignated, H cents pe1· pound: Pr ov-Lded, That plates or .Mr. SIM.l\IONS. I wish to say to the Senator that I join, sheets of iron or steer, by whatever name designated, other than the with him in rejoicing over that fact; but it was not that fact polished, planished, or glanced herein provided for, which have been pickled or cleaned by acid, or by any other material or process, or which to which I was specially calling attention. are cold-rolled, smoothed only, not polished, shall pay two-tenths of Mr. McLAURIN. Then I did not rmderstand the Senator 1 cent per pound more duty than is imposed by tWs section on common from North Carolina, for I .understood him to complain that or black sheets of iron or steel. the:i:e was another market. The amendment was agreed to . .Mr. SIMMONS. The Senator misunderstood me wholly if The next amendment was, on page 37, line 17, after the word he understood me as doing that. I was endeavoring to show " shafting," to strike out "material; " in line 24, after the word that there was real danger that the southern producer of " steel," to strike out "in all forms and shapes; " in line 25, cotton-seed oil would some day or other in the near futme after the word "in," to strike out " sections 1 or 2 of this act·~ be met with competition from the oil mills of Germany. My and insert " this section ; n on page 38, line 1, after the word statement in. that connection was that those mills in Germany "at," to strike out "eight-tenths" and insert "three-fourths; " were now preparing to enter largely into the manufacture of in line 3, after the word " above," to strike out " eight-tenths" cotton-seed oil, and that they would probably draw their cotton: and insert" three-fourths;" in line 17., before the word "cents," seed from this: country and sell their oiI to us in return. to strike out "two" and insert " one and nine-tenths; " and in Mr. McLAURIN. Mr. President, that danger carries no alarm line 2L after. the word " above," to strike out " 30 cents per to me. It has no terror so far as I am concerned, for it would pound', 4.6 cents per pound; valued above 30 cents per pound, - be a- benefit to the producer of cotton, and a benefit to the :pro­ 15 per cent ad valorem " and insert " 24 cents per pound, 4.6 ducer of cotton is not dangerous to my section of the country. cents per pouncl; valued above 24 cents and not above 32 cents Mr. SIMMONS. But the Senator can see, I imagine, that that per pound, 6 cents per pound; valued above 32 cents and 11ot would bring the American producer of cotton-seed oil in com­ above 40 cents. per- pound, 7 cents per pound; valued above 4.0 petition with the German producer of cotton--seed oil. cents per pound, 20 per cent ad valorem," so as to make the Mr. McLA.URIN. Mr. President, I. am equally as interested para.graph read: in the producer of. the cotton seed in the South, the farmer of 129. Steer ingots, cogged ingots, blooms, and slabs, by · whatever the South, as I am in the producer of the cotton-seed oil from process ma.de ; die blocks or blanks ; billets and bars and tapered oi• the product of the farm. The farmer who produces the cottQn beveled bars ; mill shafting ; 1>ressed, sheared, or stamped shapes, not advanced in value or condition by any proces-s or operation subsequent and produces the cotton seed appeals to me certainly as much to the process of stamping-; steel saw plates wholly or partially manu.­ as the man who manufactures his cotton seed into oil; and it factured ; hammer molds or swaged steel ; gun-barrel molds not in bars ; he can get a market for 500,000 tons o:t his cotton seed, I am alloys used as substitutes for steel in the ma.nu:!acture of tools; all de­ vecy desirous that he should do so. I apprehend no danger scriptions and shapes of dry sand, loam, or iron-molded steel castings ; ta sheets and plates- and steel not specially provided for in this section, the cotton-seed oil manufacturers of the South from any im· all of the above valued at three-fourths of 1 cent per pound or less, portations into this country, because I have an idea that the seven-fortieths of 1 cent per pound; valued above three-fourths of 1 cent Germans could not transport from this country 500,000 tons of and not above 1.3 cents per pound, three-tenths of .1 cent per pound; valued above t.3 cents and not above 1.8 cents per pound, five-tenths cotton seed, manufacture it into oil, and ship that oil back of 1 cent per pound ; valued above 1.8 cents and not above 2.2 cents here, paying freight both ways, and compete with the cotton­ per pound, six-tell.tbs of 1 cent per pound; valued above 2.2 cents and seed oil manufacturers of this country~ not above 3 cents.. per pound, eight-tenths of 1 cent per pound; valued above 3 cents per pound and not above 4 cents per pound, 1.1 cents per I am glad to knol'! that there is an opportunity to open.another pound ; valued above 4 c:ents and not above 7 cents per pound, 1.2 cents market for .some of the cotton products of the cotton producers per pound; valued above 7 c:ents and not above 10 cents per pound, r.9 of this country. We have in the other branch of this. Congress cents pe1· pound ; valued above 10 cents and not above 13 cents per pound, 2.3 centli: per pound; valued. above 13 cents and not above 16 a Representative from a disb.·ict in the State of Mississippi, cents per pound, 2.7 cents per pound; valued above 16 cents and not Judge BYRD, who has been devoting his time ever since he has above 24 cents per pound, 4.6 cents per pound; valued above 24 cents been a Member of the House of Representatives to an effort and not above _32 cents per pound, 6 cents per pound ; valued above 32 cents and not above 40 cents per pound, 7 eents per pound ; value.d to procure marke_ts for the co.tton and the cotton products of above 40 cents per pound, 20 per cent ad valorem. · our country. I am glad to see. that his effort is fructifying, .and that it is likely to produce a market that has been suggested by The amendment wa.s agreed to. the Senator from North Carolina... I am glad to say that I see The next amendment was, on page 39, line 5, after the word no danger to our people in the opening of this new market to "shavings," to strike out "40 per cent ad valorem" and insert the products of the cotton raisers of the country. ".11 cents per pound, including the weight of wr.appers and The v+CE-PRESIDENT. The Secretary will resume the coverings," &o as to make the paragi·aph read: reading of the bill. 130. Steel wool or steel shavings, ll cents per pound, including the The Secretary resumed the reading of the bill, and read para­ weight of wrappers and coverings. .graph 125, as follows : The amendment was agreed to. 125. Sheets of iron or steel, common or black; of what~ver dimen­ The next amendment was, on page 39, after line 7, to strike sions and skelp iron or steel, valued at 3 cents_ per ponnd or less, out: thtruier than No. 10 and not thinner than No . . 20 wire gauge, five­ 131- Diamond steel, steel grit, diamond grit, iron form,, h:on sand, tenths of 1 cent per pound ; thinner than No. 20 wire gauge and not chilled-iron sand, and. similar articles by whatever name lmown, 45 per thinner than No. 25 wire gange, six-tenths of 1 cent per pound ; thinner cent ad valorem. than No. 25 wire gauge a nd not thinner than No. _32 wire gauge, eight­ tenths of 1 cent per pound ; thinner than N-0. 32 wire gauge, nine-tenths The amendment. was agreed to. of 1 cent per pound ; corrugated or crimped, eight-tenths of· 1 cent per The next amendment was, on page 39, after line 10, to strike pound· all the foregoing vmued at more than 3 cents per pound, 30 per cent a.d valorem : Provided, That all sheets.or. plates of common or black out: iron or steel not thinner than No. 10 wire gauge shall pay duty as plate 132. The terms iron plates, steel plates, plate iron, and plate stee~ iron or plate steel. as used in tWs act, shall be restricted to such articles having plane sur­ faces which may, however, be checkered, corrugated, or ribbed, for use Mr. SCOTT. Let that go over, Mr. President. as. parts· of constructions) but not as tools or implements in manu- The VICE-PRESIDENT. The paragraph will be passed over, facturing. • at the request of the Senator from West Virginia. The amendment was agreed to. The reading of the bill was. resumed. The next amendment was, on page 39, after line 15, to sti:ike The next amendment of the Committee on Finance was, on out the subhead u Wire." page 36, line 23, before the words " per. cent," to strike out The amendment was agreed to. "forty-five." and insert "forty," so as to make the paragraph The next amendment was, on page 39, line 20, after the word read.; " pound," to strike out " four-tenths " and insert" three-tenths~" 126. All iron or steel sheets or plates, and all hoop, band, or scroll and in line 21, after the word "pound," to strike out "tluee­ iron or steel, excepting what are known commercially as. tin plates, fou:rths" and insert "six-tenths," so as to read: ter"ne plates, and taggers tin• and hereinai.ter provided for, when gal­ vanized or coated with zinc, spelter. or other metals, or any alloy of 133. Wire rods_: Rivet, screw,. fence, and other iron or steel wil'e rOOs, those metals, shall pay two-tenths- of 1· cent per pound .more duty than whether- round,. oval. fiai:, or square,. oi: in any; other shage, and .nai}. if the same was not so galvanized or coated; sheets or plates com- rods, in coils or otherwise, valued at 4 cents or less per pound, three-· il472 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. I APRIL 22,

tenths of 1 cent per pound; valued over 4 cents per pound,- six-tenths which are cold hammered, blued, brightened, tempered, polished. or of 1 cent per pound: Pro'l:ided, That all round iron or steel rods smaller treated in any way in addition to cold rolling to size, there shall be than Ko. 6 wit•e gauge shall be classed and dutiable as wire: Provided paid five-tenths of 1 cent per pound in addition to the rates provided furthc,., 'l'hat all iron or steel wire rods which have been tempered or in sections 1 or 2 of this act upon strips, plates, or sheets of fron or treated in any manner or partly manufactured shall pay an additional steel of common or black finish of corresponding gauge or value ; an

The ;next amendment was, on page 46, line 3, before the word The VICE-PRESIDJJJNT. The Senator from South Dakota " cents," to strike out " one-fourth " and insert "one-eighth," -so asks that the paragraph be passed over. as to make ~he paragraph read: Mr. LA FOLLETTE. I ask unanimous consent that para­ 143. Bolts, with or without threads or nuts, or bolt · blanks, and graph 129 may be passed over. finished hinges or hinge blanks, whether of iron or steel, 1~ cents per The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from Wisconsin asks pound. that paragraph 129 may be passed over. Is there objection? The amendment was agreed to. The Chair hears none, and it is passed over. The next amendment was, on page 46, after line 3, to strike Paragraph i50 is passed over at the request of the Senator out: from South Dakota. The Senator from Pennsylvania with­ 144. Card .clothing not actually and permanently fitted to and at­ drew the request and the Senator from South Dakota re­ tached to carding machines or to parts thereof at the time of importa­ newed it tion, manufactured from tempered steel wire, 45 cents per square foot ; Mr. SIMMONS. I wish that paragraph 149 may be passed all other, 20 cents per square foot. over, also. And insert: The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from North Carolina 144. Card clothing not actually and permanently fitted to and at­ tached to carding machines or to parts thereof at the time of. importa­ asks that paragraph 149 be passed over. tion, when manufactured with round iron or steel wire, 45 cents per Mr. ALDRICH. I suggest to the Senator from North Caro­ square foot; when manufactured with plated wire or othe~· than lina that the understanding is we can go back and take up any round iron or steel wire or with felt face, wool face, or rubber face cloth containing wool, 45 cents per square foot. of these paragraphs, and that no particular good is gained by The amendment was agreed to. having it passed over. He has the same right-- The next amendment was, on page 46, line 20, after the word Mr. SIMMONS. It is perfectly satisfactory to me. I was " iron," to strike out " eight-tenths of 1 cent per pound" and simply following the custom. insert "valued at not more than 2 cents per pound, one-half of Mr. ALDRICH. We have made an agreement. Mr. SIMMONS. If it is not necessary to reserve my right~- 1 cent per pound; ·rnlued at more than 2 cents per pound, 35 1\!r. ALDRICH. Not at all. per cent ad· valorem," so as to make the paragraph read: Mr. SIMMONS (continuing). Of course, I will not insist 146. Cast-iron andirons, plates, stove plates, sadirons, tailor's irons, upon it. hatter's irons, and castings and. vessels wholly of cast iron, valued at not more than 2 cents per pound, one-half of 1 cent per pound ; valued The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from North Caro- at more than 2 cents per pound, 35 per cent ad valorem. All castings lina withdraw his request? of iron or cast-iron plates which have been chiseled, drilled, machined, Mr. SIMMONS. On that statement, Mr. President. or otherwise advanced in condition by processes or operations subse­ quent to the casting process but not made up into articles, shall pay The reading of the bill was resumed. two-tenths of 1 c~nt per pound more than the rate imposed upon the The next amendment of the Committee on Finance was, on castings of iron and cast-iron plates hereinbefore provided for. page 48, after line 13, to strike out the subhead "Cutlery." The amendment was agreed to. The amendment was agreed to. The next amendment was, on page 47, line 6, after the word The next amendment was, on page 48, line 17, before the word "in," to strike out "sections 1 or 2 of this act" and insert "and,'' to strike out "knives or razors for cutting corns;" in "this section;" and in line 7, before the word "of,'' to strike line 19, after the word " this,'' to strike out " act" and insert out " nine-tenths" ::md insert " seven-tenths,'' so as to make the " section;" in line 20, before the word " valued,'' to strike out paragraph read: "which have folding or other than fixed blades or attach­ 147. Castings of malleable iron not specially provided for in this ments;" in line 2-3, after the words "ad valorem,'' to strike out section, seven-tenths of 1 cent per pound. "all such cutlery, or parts thereof, wholly or partly manufac­ The amendment was agreed to. tured;" and, on page 49, line 8, after the word "Provided," to The next amendment was, on page 47, line 21, after the word strike out " That any of the foregoing knives or erasers, if im· " steel,'' ·to strike out " boiler; " in line 25, before the word ported in the condition of assembled, but not fully finished, shall "cents" to strike out "one-half" and insert "three-fourths· " be· dutiable at not less than the rate of duty herein imposed on page 48, line 3, after the word " gas,'' to strike out " or; " upon fully finished knives and erasers of the same material and in the same line, after the word " liquids,'' to insert " or other quality: And provideci further, That blades, handles, or other material, whether full or empty;" in line 5, after the word parts of either or any cf the foregoing articles imported in any_ " in," to strike out " sections 1 or 2 of this act" and insert other manner than assembled in finished knives or erasers, shall " this section; " and in line 12, after the word " in," to strike be subject to no less rate ot duty than herein provided for the out " sections 1 or 2 of this act" and insert " this section," so knives and erasers mentioned herein valued at more than 50 cents· and not more than $1.25 per dozen. Razors and razor blades, as to make the paragraph read: finished or unfinished, valued at less than $1.50 per dozen, 50 150. Lap-welded, butt-welded, seamed, or jointed iron or steel tubes, pipes, flues, or stays, not thinner than No. 16 wire gauge, if not less cents per dozen and 30 per cent ad valorem; valued at $1.50 per than three-eighths of an inch in diameter, 1 cent per pound; if less dozen and less than $3 per dozen, $1 per dozen and 30 per cent than three-eighths of an inch and not less than one-fourth of an inch in ad valorem; valued at $3 per dozen or more, $1.75 per dozen and diameter, li cents per pound; if less than one-fourth of an inch in diameter, 2 cents per pound; cylindrical or tubular tanks or vessels, for 30 per cent ad valorem,'' and insert : holding gas liquids, or other material, whether full or empty, 30 per That any of the foregoing knives or erasers, if imported in tbe con­ cent ad valorem ; flexible metal tubing or hose, not specially provided for dition of assemble, but not fully finished, shall be dutiable at not less in this section, whether covered with wire or other material, or other­ than the rate of duty herein imposed upon fully finished knives and wise, including any appliances or attachments affixed thereto, 30 per erasers valued at more than $3 per dozen: Prnvided, That blades, han­ cent ad valorem ; welded cylindrical furnaces, tubes, or flues made from dles, or other parts of any of the foregoing knives or erasers shall be plate metal, and corrugated, ribbed, or otherwise reenforced against dutiable at .not less than the rate herein imposed upon knives and collapsing pressure, 2 cents per pound; all other iron or steel tubes, erasers valued at more than 50 cents per dozen and not exceeding $1.25 finished, not specially provided for in this section. 30 per cent ad per dozen; razors, finished, valued at less than $1 per dozen, 45 per valorem. cent ad valorem ; valued at $1 and less than $1.50 per dozen, 6 cents each and 40 per cent ad valorem; valued at $1.50 and less than $2 per Mr. PENROSE. I ask that the paragraph be passed over. dozen, 10 cents each and 40 per cent ad valorem; valued at $2 or more The VICE-PRESIDENT. The paragraph will be passed over. per dozen, 12 cents each .and 50 per cent ad valorem : Provided, That Mr. ALDRICH. I ask the Senator from Pennsylvania, as blades, bandies, and unfirushed razors shall pay no less duty than that imposed on finished razors valued at $2 per dozen: Pt·ovided further long as we have an understanding to go back at any time to con­ That all the articles specified in this paragraph shall have the name of sider the different paragraphs, if he will not allow it to go the maker and beneath the same the name of the country of origin die through now? br~fe.conspicuously and indelibly on the shank or tang of each and every Mr. PENROSE. I think there is an error in the committee amendment, to which my attention was called, and I want it So as to make the paragraph read : corrected. 151. Penknives, pocketknives, clasp knives, pruning knives, budding knives, erasers, manicure knives, and all knives by whatever name Mr. ALDRICH. It can be rectified hereafter. I do not care, known, including such as are denominatively mentioned in this section but I make that suggestion-- valued at not more than 40 cents per dozen, 40 per cent ad valorem ! Mr. PENROSE. Is it the thought of the Senator that none valued at more than 40 cents per dozen and not exceeding 50 cents of these paragraphs should be passed over? per dozen, 1 cent per piece and 40 per cent ad valorem ; valued at more than 50 cents per dozen and not exceeding $1.25 per dozen 5 cents Mr. ALDRICH. There is no particular reason for passing per piece and 40 per cent ad valorem; valued at more than $1.25 per them over, because we have agreed that everybody shall have dozen and not exceeding $3 per dozen, 10 cents per piece and 40 per the right to go back and take them up if he wants to. cent ad valorem; valued at more than $3 per dozen, ~'O cents per piece and 40 per cent ad valorem : Provided, That any of the foregoing Mr. PENROSE. I was merely following the precedent. I knives or erasers, if imported in the condition of assemble, but not withdraw the request, if the Senator from Rhode Island sug­ fully finished, shall be dutiable at not less than the rate of duty herein imposed upon fully finished knives and erasers valued at more than $3 pet• gests it. dozen: Provided, That blades, handles, or other parts of nny of the The VICE-PRESIDENT. The request is withdrawn. foregoing knives or erasers shall be dutiable at not less than the rate Mr. ORA WFORD. I renew the request. herein imposed upon knives and erasers valued at more than 50 centa

XLIV--93 • ll474 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. APRIL 22, per dozen and .not exceeding $1.'25 per dozen; razors, finlshed, valued at The next amendment was, on page 53, ;after line 1L to strike less than $1 per dozen, 45 per cent ad valorem; valued :at $1 and less than ~ 1.50 per dozen, 6 cents each and 40 per cent ad valorem; valued out: at $1.50 and less than $2 per dozen, 10 cents each and 40 per cent 157. Sheets.., plates, wares, or articles of lron, steel, or other metal, ad valorem ; valued at $2 or more per dozen, 12 cents ~ach and .50 enameled or glazed with vitreous glasses, 40 per cent ad valorem. per cent ad valorem; Provided, That blades, handles, nd 'UDfinished razors shall _pay no less duty than that imposed on "finished razors The amendment was agreed to. valued at $2 J>er dozen : Provided further, That all the articles specified The next amendment was, on page 53, after line 14, to strike in this paragraph shall have the name of the maker a.nd beneath the same the name of the country of origin die sunk conspicuously and in­ out the subhead "Nails, spikes, tacks, a.nd needles."'' delibly on the shank or tang of each and every blade. Scissors and The amendment was agreed to. shears, and blades for the same, :finished or unfinished, \alued at not The next amendment was, on page 53, line 17, before the word more than 50 cents per dozen, 15 eents iper dozen nnd 15 per -cent ad valorem; valued at more than 50 cents and not more than $1.75 per "of," to strike out " five-tenths " and insert "four-tenths," so dozen, 50 cents per dozen and 15 per cent ad valorem; valued at more as to make the _paragraph read : than 1.75 per dozen, 75 cents per dozen and 25 per eent ad valorem. 158. Cut nails a.nd cut spikes of iron or steel, f our-tenths of 1 cent l\!r. STONE. I observe that a part of the paragraph· as it per pound. eame from the House has been stricken out. The amendment was agreed to. Mr. LODGE. The general provisions-135, 136, and 137. The next amendment was, on page 53, line 19, after the word Mr. STONE. Paragraph 151 I am speaking of. "in,'" to strike out "sections 1 or 2 o.f this a.ct" and insert .Mr. LODGE. Oh! '"this section;" and in line 21, after the word "pound,'' to in­ Mr. STONE. It is stricken ·out here. sert " horseshoe calks and parts thereof, finished or unfinished, l\Ir. ALDRICH. There is a new description 'inserted in line 2, of iron or steel, $7.50 per thousand," so as to make the para­ page 50. graph read: Mr. STONE. I do not find it in the new matter. 15). Horseshoe nails, hobnails, and all other wrought iron or steel l\.Ir. ALDRICH. On the next page there is a new description. nails, not ·specially provided for in this section, 1~ cents per pound; Mr. S'l'ONE. I see that. Can the Senator point me to the horseshoe calks .and parts thereof, finished ()f unfinished, of iron or steel, $7~50 per thousand. line of... the new matter which ~over.s the article to which I a1lude? The amendment was agreed to. l\Ir. K.ElAN. Line 18. The Secretary read paragraph 160. Jtfr. ALDRICH. Lme 18. .Mr. OLIVER. Let paragraph 160 be passed "Over. Mr. KEAN. "Provided, That blades, handles," and so forth. The -VICE-PRESIDENT. It will be passed over. l\Ir. LODGE. In the amendment on page 00, line 18. The :reading of the bill was resumed. l\Ir. KEA.l~. Beginning with the words "'blades, handles, The next amendment o.f the Committee on Finance was, 'On and unfinished Tazors." page 54, line 5, after the word " steel," to strike out " one-half " Mr. STONE. I wil1 examine it. ·n does not .seem, however, and insert"' three-fourths,n so as to make the paragraph read. . to be quite what I had in mind. . 161. Spikes, nuts. an.d washers, and horse, mule, or ox shoes, of .1\!r. LA FOI,LE'rTE. I nsk that paragraph 151 be passed wrought iron <>r steel, three-fourths of 1 cent per pound. over. Mr. CRAWFORD. I ask that it be passed over. The VICE-PRESIDENT. It will be passed over. The VICE-PRESIDENT. It will be passed -over. The reading .of the bill was resumed. The reading of the bill was resumed. The next amendment of the Committee <>n Financ-e was, on The next amendment of the Committee on Finance wa.s, on page 51, afi:er line 7, to strike out; page 54, line 11, after the word u knitting," to strike out "or; " 15.2. Sword blades, a.nd swords and slde arms irrespective of quality in the same line, after the word "sewing," to insert '"'or or use, in part of metal, '50 per cent .ad -valorem. embroidery;" in line 12, after the word "dollar,u to insert And insert: "'and twenty-five cents; " and in line 18, before :the word .15.2. Swor.as, sword blatles, and bayonets, -35 per c.ent ~u ;valo.rem. ·'-'shall," to strike out "aet" and insert "'section," so ·as to .The :amendment was agreed to. make the paragraph read: The next amendment was, on page 52, line l, after the word 163. Needles for knitting, 11ewing, o.r embroidery machines, lucludi.ng 'T·rovide4," to ,strike :out "That .no cutlery other than that lateh needles, $1.25 per thousand and 25 per cent ad valorem; crochet needles and tape needles, knitting and all other J}eedles, not specially provided for in sections 1 .or 2 o.f this act at ad -valorem rates provided tor in this section, and bodkins of metal, 25 per .cent ad of duty shall pay a less rate of duty than 40 per cent ad -valo­ valorem; but no articles other than the needles which .are speciiically shall named in this eection -shall be dutiable as needles unless having an eye, rem," and insert "That none of the above-named articles and titted ·and used for earrying a thread. Needle cases or needle books pay a Jess rate .of duty than 45 _per cent ad v.alor.em," as to furnished with assortments of needles or combinations -of needles and make the paragraph read : other articles, shall pay duty as entireties according to the component material of dlief -value therein. . 153. Table, "butchers', curving, cooks', :hnntlng, kitchen, bread, butter, >egeta.ble, truit, cheese, (!arpenters' bench, cuttiers', -drawing, farriers', Mr. CRAWFORD. Let it be passed' c0ver. fleshing, .hay, tanners'i plumbers', painters., palette, artists', and ·shoe knive forks and 'Stee s, 1inished or 'llnfin1shed ; if imported with 'han­ The VICE-PRESIDENT. Just the amendment? dles of mother-of-pearl, shell, ivory, silver, .nickeled silve:r, or other Mr. CRAWFORD. Yes, sir; just the amendment metal than iron or steel, 14 cents each; with handles of deerhorn, 10 : Mr. NELSON. Let paragraph 1.63 be -passed over. cents -each; with 'handles of hard :rubber, .solid 'bone, .celluloid. or any · will pyrox:yline material, 4 cents each; w;ith ·handles of any other material -The VICE-PRESIDENT. It be passed -0ver. than those nbo-ve mentioned, 1 cent ea.eh, and in addition, on all the The reading of the bill was resumed. above articles, 15 per cent .ad valorem; :any of the knives, forks or The next amendment of the Oommittee on Finance was, on steels -enumerated in this Pa.I'a..,"'Taph_, if imported without handles., 40 page 54., after line 23, to insert : per cent ad valorem ~ ProvidetL, That none of the above-na:med articles shall pay a less rate of duty thn.n 45 ;per cent ad valorem. 1631. Fishhooks, fishing rods :and -reels, artificial flies, artificial baits, snelled hooks, n.nd all other fishlng tackle or parts thereof, not Mr. LA FOLLETTE. I ask that the paragraph may go o~er. specially provided for in this section, except fishing lines, fishing nets, The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from Wisconsin asks and seines, 45 per cent ad valfil'em. that it be passed -0-yer. The runendmen.t was agreed to. Mr. BULKELEY. I ask that it may go -over. The next amendment was, on page 55, line 6, before the words The VICE-PRESIDENT. Paragraph 153 is -passed -0ver. "per eentum," to strike out "twenty•• and insert "twenty-fiTe," The Secretary read paragraph 1.M. so as to make the paxagra_ph r.ead. Mr. KEAN. Let it be passed over. 164. Steel plates engraved, stereotype plates, electrotype plates, and The VICE-PRESIDENT. It will be passed over, at the re­ plates of oth-er materials, engraved 10r lithographed, for p.rlnting, 25 per -cent ad valorem ~ plates of iron or steel ~ngraved or fashioned for quest of the Senator from New Jersey. use in the production of des'igns, patterns, or impressions on glass in The r~ding of the bill was resumed. the process of manufacturing plate or other glass, 25 per cen.t nd The next amendment of the Oommittee on Finanee was, -on valor.em. page .52, afte.r line 8, to strike .out the subhead" Firearm~." Mr. ORA WFORD. I ask that :it ·be passed over. The amendment was 'Rgreed to~ The VICE-PRESIDENT. . It will be passed over. The next amendment was, -0n ~e !>3, Un~ 7, after the word The reading of the bill wa.s resumed. " in.,, to strike -0ut " sections 1 o.r 2 of this act " and .insert The next amendment of the (Jommittee on Finance was, on "this section," so -as to make the proviso read: page 55, line 11, nfter the word "Rivets," to strike -0ut "or; " Provided, That all double-barreled sporting breech-loading shotguns and in the sam.e line, after the word "studs," to insert ".and and rifles imported without a lock or locks or other fittings shall be subject to a duty of $6 -each and 35 per eent ad valorem; smgle-barreJed steel points,'~ so as to malre the ·paragraph read: breech-loading shotguns, or parts thereof, iex.cept as otherwise specially 165. Rivets, 'Studs, and stee-1 paints, lathed, machined, or brightened, _provided for in this section, · $1 each ·and .35 per cent . ad Ya.l.orem; and rivets or studs for nonskidding automobile tires, 45 per cent, au pistols, automatic, magazine; or .revolying, cer _parts thereo.f, 75 cents . valorem ; rivets of iron or steel, -.not specially provided for in thls sec­ each aad 25 per cent ad valorem. tion, 1! ·cents per pound The amendment was agreed to. The amendment was agreed to. •

1909. C~NGRESSION AL RECORD-SENATE. 1475

. 15 t t 'k barium, calcium, magnesium, sodium, and potassium, and alloys of The next amendment was, on page 55, a fter 1me , O s ri ~e which said metals are the component material of chief value, 3 cents out the imbhead "Saws." per pound and 25 per cent ad valorem. The amendment was agreed to. The amendment was agreed to. The next amendment was, on page 55, line 25, before the word The next amendment was, on page 57, line 6, after the word "and," to strike out "two" and insert "three;" on page 56, "metal," to strike out "three-fourths of 1 cent per pound" line 2 before the word " cents," to strike out "four" and insert and insert: " five ; " in line 4, before the word " cents," to strike out " six " One and one-half cents per pound ; antimony ore, sti~nite and matte and insert "eight; " and in line 5, before the word " cents," to containing antimony, 1 cent per pound o.n the ~t1mony co.ntents strike out " eight " and insert " twelve," so as to make the para- therein contained : Provided, That on all importations of antimon~- bearing ores and matte containing antimony the duties shall be est1- graph read: mated at the port of entry, and a bond given in double the amount of 167. Screws, commonly called wood screws, made of iron or steel, such estimated duties for the transportation of the ores by common car­ more than 2 inches in length, 3?1 cents per pound; over 1 inch and not riers bonded for the transportation of appraised or unappra.ised mer­ more than 2 inches in length, 5 cents per pound; over one-half ?1ch and chandise to properly equipped sampling or smel~il!g e stablishme~ts, not more than 1 inch in length, 8 cents per pound; one-half mch and whether designated as bonded warehouses or otherwise. On the ayrival less in length, 12 cents per pound. of the ores at such establishment, they shall be sampled accordrng to commercial methods under the supervision of government officers, who Mr. CRAWFORD. Let the paragraph be passed over. shall be stationed at such establishment, and who shall submit the sam- The VICE-PRESIDENT. It will be passed over, at the re- ples thus obtained to a government assayer, designated by the Sec- f S f retary of the Treasury, who shall make a proper assay of the sample, quest o the enator rom S OU th D a k O t a. and report the result to the proper customs officers, and the import The reading of the bill was resumed. entry shall be liquidated thereon, except in case of ore~ that shal~ be The next amendment of the Committee on Finance was, on removed to a bonded warehouse to be refined for exportation as provided Page '56, line 8, after the word "otherwise," to strike out "35 by law, and the Secretary of the Treas~y is auth<;>rized to make all per cent ad valorem " and insert " and; " and in line 9, before necessary regulations to enforce the provisions of this paragraph. the words " per cent," to strike out " thirty-five" and insert So as to make the paragraph read: " fifty," so as to make the paragraph read: 171. Antimony, as regulus or metal, a cents per pound; antimony ore, etc. 168. Umbrella and parasol ribs and stretchers, composed in chief , CRAWFORD I k th t th h b d value of iron, steel, or other metal, in frames or otherwise; and .tubes J.lfr. ~ · as a e paragrap e pa.sse over. for umbrellas, wholly or partially finished, 50 per cent ad valorem. The VICE-PRESIDENT. The paragraph will be passed over. Mr. DOLLIVER. I should like to make an inquiry about The next amendment was, on page 58, line 8, after the word the paragraph. I notice that it seems to be a raise in the duty "metallics," to insert "valued at not over 20 cents per pound, as compared with the provisions of the House bill. My atten- 6 cents per pound; valued at over 20 cents per pound," so as to tion was some time ago called to the fact that there are scat- make the paragraph read: •t d Stat II f t e s of um 173. Bronze powder, brocades, flitters, and metallics, valued at not tered a II over the U Ill e es sma manu ac ur r - over 20 cents per pound, 6 cents per pound; valued at over 20 cents brellas and parasols who use this half-made material; and an per pound, 12 cents per pound; bronze, or Dutch-metal or aluminum, interview with one of them at a little city in Iowa not long in leaf, 6 cents 11er 100 leaves. ago led me to believe tba t there ought to be some relief to these The amendment was agreed to. scattered umbrella manufacturers, because be informed me The next amendment was, on page 58, after line 17, to strike that the manufacture of these materials, ribs and handles, out out the subhead "Gold and silver." of which they are manufacturing umbrellas and parasols, had The amendment was agreed to. been consolidated into a single institution and that they were Mr. OVERMAN. Mr. President, are we going to stay here driven to very great loss in the rise in the price of those mate- all night? We have got another day. I mo-rn that the Senate rials, being compelled to wind up their affairs. . adjourn. It is 6 o'clock. It struck me as very wise that the House bad made a very Mr. ALDRICH. If the Senator will be a little patient, we slight reduction in these particular articles. will finish this particular schedule -rery soon and then we will Mr. SMOOT. The umbrella ribs and stretchers are sold to adjourn. I hope the Senator will withdraw his motion. these very manufacturers at 7 cents apiece, and it is claimed The VICE-PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from North that it would absolutely ruin the business if we reduced the Carolina insist on his motion? duty to 35 per cent ad valorem. l\fr. ALDRICH. I hope the Senator from North Carolina ... Tow the difference between the 35 per cent and 50 per cent will not insist upon it. is only 15 per cent, and on 7 cents, the wholesale price, it Mr. OVERMAN. I withdraw the motion. amounts to a cent apiece. So an umbrella manufacturer could The VICE-PRESIDENT. The Senator from North Carolina. simply take the manufactured ribs and stretchers and put the withdraws bis motion. cloth over them, and he could not be hurt very much. The Secretary continued the reading of the bill. 1\Ir. DOLLIVER. Would it disturb the Senator from Utah The next amendment was, on page 59, line 7, after the word if I would inquire whether my information is correct, that the "threads," to insert "10 cents per pound and," so as to make distribution of these materials is now consolidated into a single the paragraph read: hand? 177. Tinsel wire, lame or lahn, made wholly or in chief value of gold, l\fr. SMOOT. I asked that question, and I was informed that silver, or other metal, 10 cents per pound; bullions and metal threads, made wholly or in chief value of tinsel wire, lame or lahn, 10 cents it was not true. per pound and 30 per cent ad valorem ; fabrics, laces, embroideries, Mr. PENROSE. I can answer that inquiry from personal braids galloons, trimmings, ribbons, beltings, ornaments, or other knowledge. These industries are about 15 in number, lo- articles, made wholly or in chief value of tinsel wir'e, lame or lahn, cated in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and New York. They manu- ~;:f~~~Z:::: or metal threads, 10 cents per pound and 60 per cent ad facture the frames. The manufacturer of the finished product The amendment was agreed to. has no complaint whatever to make concerning bis relations The Secretary read paragraph , as follows: with the manufacturer of frames. The frames are sold to the 178 178. Hooks and eyes, metallic, whether loose, carded, or otherwise, manufacturer of the umbre11 a f or fr om 7 t o 12 cent s, and they including weight of cards, cartons, and immediate wrappings and labels, are threatened by cheap labor from Japan. They are in no 4 cents per pound and 15 per cent ad valorem. sense in any combination or trust. Mr. BULKELEY. I ask that that paragraph be passed over. 1\Ir. DOLLIVER. I appreciate, of course, the great variety The VICE-PRESIDENT. The paragraph will be passed over, of dangers we are under from Japan. I a~ going to ask that at the request of the Senator from Connecticut. the paragraph be passed over until I can examine it. The next amendment was, on page 59, line 21, before the The VICE-PRESIDENT. That bas already been done. word "Provided," to strike out "Lead dross, including all The reading of the bill was resumed. dross containing lead, lead bullion or base bullion, lead in pigs The next amendment was, on page 56, after line 22, to strike or bars, old refuse lead run into blocks or bars, and old scrap out the subhead " Miscellaneous metals, and manufactures of." lead fit only to be remanufactured, lead in any form not spe­ Tbe amendment was agreed to. cially provided for in sections 1 or 2 of this act, and the lead The next amendment was, on page 56, line 24, before the contents contained in lead-bearing ores of all kinds; all the word "and," to insert "aluminum scrap;" and on page 57, foregoing, 1! cents per pound," and to insert "lead-bearing ore line 2, after the word "pound," to insert " barium, calcium, of all kinds, l! cents per pound on the lead contained therein," magnesium, sodium, and potassium, and alloys of which said so as to read: metals are the component material of chief value, 3 cents per 179. Lead-bearing ore of all kinds, H cents per pound on the lead pound and 25 per cent ad valorem," so as to make the paragraph contained therein. i·ead: Mr. DOLI... IVER. I ask that the paragraph be passed over. 170 Aluminum, aluminum scrap, and alloys of any kind in which Th VICE-PRESIDENT Th h ·11 b sed aluminum is the component material of chief value, In crude form, e · e paragrap w1 e pas over, 7 cents per pound; in plates, sheets, bars, and rods, 11 cents per pound :. ..,.~t - the request of the Senator from Iowa. • il476 CONGRESSION.A.L RECORD- SENATE. APRIL 22,

The next amendment was, on page 60, after line 14, to strike and not more than 15 jewels, $1.85 each; lf having more than 15 and not more than 17 jewels, $1.25 each and 25 per cent ad valorem; out " 180. Lead in sheets, pipe, shot, glaziers' lead, and lead if having more than 17 jewels, $3 each and 25 per cent ad valorem; wire, li cents per pound," and to insert: watch cases and parts of watches, chronometers, box or ship, and parts thereof, 40 per cent ad valorem; clock movements having jewels in 180. Lead dross, lead bullion or base bullion, lead in pigs and bars, the escapement, and clocks c-0ntaining such movements, $1 each and lead in any form not specially provided for in this section, old refuse 40 per cent ad valorem; all other clocks and parts thereof not other­ lead run into blocks and bars, and old scrap lead fit only to be remanu­ wise provided for in this section, whether separately packed or other­ factured ;. all the foregoing, 2~ cents per pound ; lead in sheets, pipe, wise, not composed wholly or in part of china, porcelain, paria.n, bisque, shot, gla.ziers' lead, and lead wire, 2~ cents per pound. or earthenware, 40 per cent ad valorem ; all jewels for use in the l\1r. OARTER~ I ask that that paragraph be passed over. manu:facture of watches or clocks, 10 per cent ad valorem; enameled d~als for watches or other instruments, 60 per cent ad valorem: Pro­ TJ;ie VICE-PilESIDENT. The paragraph will be passed over, vided, That all watch and clock d.ials shall have indelibly painted or at the request of the Senator from l\Iontana. printed thereon the country of origin, and. i! attached to movements, Mr. STONE. I ask what is the present tariff on pig lead? Is in addition to the country of origin shall have the name of the maker or makers of such watch or clock movements indelibly painted or it a cent and a half a pound? printed thereon, and that all watch movements, lever clock movements 1\Ir. ALDRICH. No; paragraph 180 is the present tariff. with jewels in the escapement, and cases of foreign manufacture shall pig have the name of the manufacturer and country of manufacture cut, Mr. STONE. On lead? engraved, or die sunk conspicuously and indelibly on the plate of the Mr. ALDRICH. Yes; 2k cents per pound. movement and the inside of the case, respectively, and the movements The next amendment was, on page 61, line 1, after the word shall also have marked thereon by one of the methods indicated the 1 2 ~umber of jew~ls and . adjustments, said number to be expressed both " in," to strike out " sections or of this act" and insert m words and m Arabic numerals; and none of the aforesaid articles " this section." so as to make the paragraph read: shall be delivered to the importer unless marked in exact conformity 181. Metallic mineral substances i.n a crude state, and metals un­ to this direction. wrought, whether cupable of being wrought or not. not specially pro­ vided for in this section, 20 per cent ad valorem ; monazite sand and Mr. LODGE. I merely want to correct a typographical error. thorite, 4 cents per pound. In line 4, after the word " having," there should be inserted the The amendment was agreed to. . word "not," so as to read: "having not more than seven The next amendment was, on page 61, after line 3, to strike jewels." out: The VICE-PRESIDENT. Without objection, the amendment 182. Chrome or chromium metal, ferro.chrome or ferrochromium, will be agreed to. terromolybdenum, ferrophosphorus, ferrotitanium, ferrotungsten,. ferro­ Mr. ·LA FOLLETTE. I ask that the paragraph may go over. sillcon containing more than 15 per cent of silica, ferrovanadium, man­ The VICE-PRESIDENT. It will be passed over. ganese metal, molybd.enum, titanium, tantalum, tungsten, or wolfram metal, 15 per cent ad valorem; ferros1licon containing not more than The next amendment was, on page 66, line 15, after the word 15 per cent of silica, and ferromanganese, $4 per ton. "zinc," to strike out "content," so as to make the paragraph And insert: read: 182. Chrome or chromlum metal, ferrochrome or ferrochromlum, fer­ 190. Zinc ore and calamine, 1 cent per pound on the zinc contained romolybdenum, ferrophosphorus, ferrotitanium, ferrotungsten, ferrosili­ therein : Provided, That on all importations of zinc-bearing ores the con containing more than 15 per cent of silicon, ferrovanadium, molyb­ duties shall be estimated at the port of entry, and a bond given in denum, titanium, tantalum, tungsten, or wolfram metal, valued at $200 double the amount of such estimated duties for the transportation of per ton or less., 25 per cent ad valorem ; valued at more than $200 per the ores by common carriers bonded for the transportation of appraised ton, 20 per cent ad valorem; ferrosilicon containing not more than 15 or unappraised merchandise to properly equipped sampling or smelting per cent of silicon, $4 per ton. establishm':nts, whether designated as bonded warehouses or otherwise. On the arrival of the ores at such establishments they shall be sampled Mr. BURTON. I ask that that paragraph be passed over. according to commercial methods under the supervision of government The VICE-PRESIDENT. The paragraph will be passed over, office~s, who shall be stationed at such establishments, and who shall submit the samples thus obtained to a government assayer, des1gnated at the request of the Senator from Ohio. by the Secretary of the Treasury, who shall make a proper assay of the The Secretary read paragraph 183, as follows: ~ample, and. report the result to the proper customs officers, and the import entries shall be liquidated thereon, except i.n case of ores that 183. Nickel, nickel oxide, alloy of any kind in which nickel is a shall be removed to a bonded warehouse to be refined for exportation component material of chief value, in pigs, ingots, bars, rods, plates, as provided by law. And tbe Secretary of the Treasury is authorized sheets, and strips cut from sheets, but not rolled or drawn, 6 cents to make all necessary regulations to enforce the provisions of this per pound. paragraph. Mr. BRANDEGEE. I ask that paragraph 1.83 be passed over. Mr. BURTON. I ask that paragraph 190 be passed o·rnr, and Tbe VICE-PRESIDENT. It will be passed over, at the re­ also paragraph 191. quest of the Senator from Connecticut. The VICE-PRESIDENT. Paragraph 190 will be passed over. The next amendment was, on page 62, after line 2, to strike The Secretary read paragraph 191. out: The VICE-PRESIDENT. This paragraph will be passed 185. Penholder tips, penholders or parts thereof, and gold pens, 25 over, at the request of the Senator from Ohio. per cent ad valorem ; fountain pens, stylographic pens, and ink pencils, or parts of any of them, 30 per cent ad valorem: Provided, That pens The reading of the bill was resumed. and penholders shall continue to be classified separately for duty pur­ The next amendment was, on page 67, after line 14, to strike poses but so-called combination penholders, comprising, besides a pen­ out: holder, a pencil, rubber eraser, automatic stamp, or similar attachments, shall be assessed for duty as entireties according to the component 192. Alloys and other mixed metals in lumps, pigs, blocks. bars cakes material of. chief value therein. sheets, or powder, ·not specially provided for, 20 per cent ad' valorem. ' And insert: And insert: 18u. Penholder tips, penholders and parts thereof, 25 cents per gross 192. Cans, boxes, packages, containers, trays, signs, and similar ar- and 25 per cent ad valorem; gold pens, 25 per cent ad valorem ; foun- tlcles, composed \Yholly or· in chief value of tin plate, terne plate, or iron ta.in pens,. stylographic pens, 30 per cent ad valorem; combination pen- o_r steel sheets, if lacquered, enameled, or printed by any pr(lcess of holders, comprising penholder, pencil, rubber eraser, automatic stump, lith_ography whatever,_ all the foregoing, filled or unfilled, and whether or other attachment, 45 per cent ad valorem: Provided, That pens and I their contents be _dutiable or free, 4 cents per pound and 35 per cent penholders shall be assessed for duty separately. ad valorem: Provided, That none of the foregomg articles shall pay a The amendment was agreed to. less rate of duty than 55 per cent ad valorem. The reading of the bill was resumed. The amendment was agreed to. 'l'he next amendment was, at the top of page 64, to strike out: ou'f~e next amendment was, at the top of page GS, to strike 189. Watch movements, whether imported in cases or not, if having 193. Bottle caps, if not colored or embo sed in color, 45 per cent ad not more than 7 jewels, 70 cents each; if having more than 7 jewels , valorem; i:f lacquered, enameled. lithographed, or embossed in color 55 and not more than 11 jewels, $1.35 each; i! having more than 11 per cent ad valorem. ' jewels and not more than 15 jewels, $1.85 each; if having more than 15 jewels and not more than 17 jewels, $1.25 each and 25 per cent And insert: ad valorem ; if having more than 17 jewels, 3 each and 25 per cent 193. Bottle caps, if not colored, waxed, lacquered, enameled Utho­ ad valorem ; watch eases and parts of watches, including watch dials, graphed, or· embossed in color, 45 per cent ad valorem; if colo1·ed chronometers, oox or ship, and parts thereof, clocks and parts thereof, waxed, lacquered, enameled, Uthographed, or embossed in color, 55 per not otherwise provided for in this section, whether separately packed cent ad valorem. or otherwise, not compo ed wholly or in part of china, porcelain, parian, bisque, or earthenware, 40 per cent ad valorem ; all jewels for The amendment was agreed to. use in the manufacture of watches or clocks, 10 per cent ad v:tlorem = The next amendment was, on page 68, line 10, after the word Pro'L"iried, That all watch movements and cases of foreign manu:facture shall have the n:i.me of the manufacturer and of the city, town or "registers,." to strike out "electrical machinery, jute manufac­ village, and country of manufacture cut, engraved, or die sunk con­ turing machinery; " and in line 16, after the word " all " to spicuously and indelibly on the plate of the movement and the inside strike out " embroidery machines and lace-making " and ~ert of the case, resp cti"\"cly, and the movements shall also have marked thereon by one of the methods indicated the number of jewels and "Le"V"er or Goughrough lace," so as to make the paragraph read: adjustmen ts, sai:d number to be expressed both in words and in Arabic 194. ~~ registers, lino type and. all typesetting machines, machine numc1·uls; and none of the aforesaid articles shall be delivered to the tools, prmtmg presses, sewing machines, typewriters, and all steam en­ . importe;r unless marked in e:Jµlct conformity to this direction. gines, 30 per cent ad valorem; embroidery machines and lace-makino­ machlnes, including machines for making lace curta.ins nets or nee And in ert = tings, 45 l_>er cent ad v:tlorem : Provided, however, That all 'Leve1· or 189. Watch movements,. whether imported in cases or not, if having G-Oughrough lace machines, including machines for making lace car­ more than 7 jewels, 65 cents each; if having more than 7 jewels and ta.ins, nets, or nettings, imported prior to July 1, 1911, shall be ad­ aot more than 11 jewels, $1.35 each ; if having more than 11 jewels mitted free of duty, 1909. CONGRESSIONAii RECORD- HOUSE. 1477·

Mr. .ALDRICH. In line 15, after the word "curtains," I oi record in the office of the secretary of. state oi the State of Louisiana, and of which certificate· the foregoing is a true and correct copy. move to strike out " nets, or nettmgs '' ; in line 17 to strike out "W"itness our official signatures at the cit,y of Baton Rouge this 15th " Lever or Goughrough " ·and insert " levers or gothrough " ; da:y ·Of April,. 1909. and in line 18, after the word " machines " to strike out the J. Y. SANDERS, G-Overnor of the State of Louisiana. words " including machines fur making lace curtains, nets, or By the g-OVernor. : nettings". [SEAL.]' EuGmrn J. McGl!:VNEY, The amendment to the amendment was agreed to. Assistant Seet·etary of State. The am-endment as amended was agreed to. Thereupon Mr~ GILMOBE, accompanied by his colleague, ~fr. The next amendment was, on page 68, line 21, after the word PUJO, appeared at the b-a.1" of the House and the oath of office "in," to strike out "sections 1 or 2 of this act" and insert was administered by the Speaker. ~ "this section," so as to make the paragraph read: ENROLLED BILLS SIGNED. 195. Articles or wares not specially provided for in this section, com­ The SPEAKER. The Chair lays before the Honse the fol· .posed wholly or in part of iron, steel, lead, copper, nick~~ pewter, zinc, gold, silver, platinum, aluminum, or other metal, and whether partly or lowing, bills, which have ve.en signed by the Speaker. These wholly manufactured, 45 per cent ad valorem. bills are certified to by the Clerk of the House as truly enrolled The amendment was agreed to. instead of by the Committee on Enrolled Bills. The Speaker has Mr. ALDRICH. I move that the Senate adjo11rn. signed the same and now lays them before the Honse. The m-otion was agreed to; and (at 6 o'clock and 12 minutes The Clerk read as follows :. p. m.) the Senate adjourned until to-mouow, Friday, April 23, House joint resolution 38. 1909. at 12 o.'dock meridian. J-o.int resolution repealing joint resolution to provide for.: the distri· bution by Members· of the Sixtietlt Congress of documents, reports, and other publications, am>roveressional district, and which we do h~reby andria, Va., on the afternoon of April 30, to participate in the cele.­ officially declare and announce to be as follows, to wit : bration of the one hundred and twentieth an.ntversa.ry of the first in· Oongressionai -cote, March SO, 1909, second district. auguration of Gen. George "\Vashington as Pre,sident of the United State.SJ Very respectfully, · SAMUEu u. GILMORE, DEMOCRAT. . WASHINGTON MONUMENT ASSOCTATION, Orleans: By J. Y. WxuuIAMS, Acting Secretary. "\VardWard 21------~----- ______:______623 APRlu 15, 1909. 1,028 Ward 10------­ !.)62 Mr. CARLIN. 1\lr. Speaker, on the 30th of April, 1789, Gen. Wa.rd 11----~------­ 864 Ward 12------314 George Washington was inaugurated in New York President of Ward 13------­ 491 the United States. It is· the purpose of the citizens of Alex­ Wa.rd 14------34'Z andria, Va., to ceJ.ebrate the one hundred and twentieth a.nub Ward 16------~-­ 155 \ersary of that event on the 30th of the pTesent month by ap­ Ward 17------. 181 J elferson ------­ 233 propriate publie' ceremonies, and they· ha e commissioned me to St. Charles------­ 38 deliYer the invitation which has just been laid before the Honse St. Ja.mes------91 St. John the BaptisL------208 by the Speaker. It is peculiarly appropriate that Alexandria should celebrate Total------5,535 this occasion. Alexandria was the headquarters of Washing­ Witn$s our official signatures at. the city of Baton Rouge this 15th ton's business operations. His home at Mount Vernon was only day of April, A. D. rnou. J. Y. SA..~DE.RS, a few miles away. His office, which he desigilll.ted his work­ Governor of Louisiana. shop, was in that city, and the busiest hours of his life were WALTER GUION, spent there. He was master of the Masonic lodge, was the A.:ttor11o.ey-r of the State of Louisiana, do hereby born. If history be true, one Sabbath morning, after services certify that the foregoing is a true and correct copy of the compUa­ in that little chure~ Washington. and his associntes held a con­ ti<>n of the vote cast in the Second Con.,

Washington, but I do not believe that any event, either in his Mr. MICHAEL E. DRISCOLL. Mr. Speaker, I take it to be history or the history of this country, could have been fraught an invitation· to the Speaker and to the Members individually, with more good, more hope, and yet more uncertainty, than and the acceptance will be by the Speaker and by the Members his first inauguration. individually. The city of New York, in which he took the oath of office, Mr. KEIFER. Mr. Speaker, then I suggest that the gentie·­ the!l numbered less than 30,000 people. It was a great city even man modify his resolution so as to make the acceptance that of at that date. Washington's journey from Mount Vernon to New the Speaker and of the Members of the House. York,'with the quaint method of travel which was in vogue at Mr. MICHAEL E. DRISCOLL. Mr. Speaker, I am willing that time, was fraught with scenes and incidents showing the to make that correction. real depth of affection of the American people for this man, The SPEAKER. Without objection, the Clerk will report which scenes have never been excelled in the civilized world. the amendment and the resolution as amended. The ancient city of Alexandria has every year since the death The Clerk read as follows : of Washington celebrated the anniversary of his birth, and the AmQnd by inserting after the word "and" the words "the l\Iembers 22d day of each succeeding Februa~ since 1799 has witnessed of the," so as to read: R esolved, That the Speaker and the Members of the House of Repre­ in that city some appropriate celebration in honor of his birth. sentatives accept with cordial thanks the invitation so graciously ex­ These occasions, like the one to which you are invited on the tended to them by the Washington Monument Association o:f Alex- 30th of this month, have been free from commercial and indus­ andria, Va. · trial associations, and have been designed not only to do honor The SPEAKER. The question is on the amendment. to the first citizen of America, whose home was in their midst, The question was taken, and the amendment was agreed to. but for the purpose of inspiring in the youth of the land a The SPEAKER. The question now is on agreeing to the reso- patriotic devotion to country and to home. I have hoped to live lution as amended. to see the day when the ideals of Washington shall be realized The question was taken, and the resolution was agreed to. and our people will be cemented together, with no thought of MAJ. PIERRE CHARLES L 1ENFAN.T. any foe, save from other lands. That there may be no North, The SPEAKER laid before the House the following com­ no South, no East, nor West, but one grand, glorious America munication : for us all. [Loud applause.] There are no people with a EXECUTIVE OFFICE , higher conception of duty, with higher ideals of manhood, nor COMJ'.HSSIONERS OF THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, more splendid womanhood, than the people of the city of Alex­ Washington, ..4.priZ 11, 1909. andria, all their ambitions and hopes being based upon a splen­ To the Hou.se of Representatives of the Uni ted States: The Commissioners of the District of Columbia have the honor to did and a patriotic past. invite the Members of the House of Representatives to attend the cere­ This invitation is extended to you as the Representatives of monies in honor of Maj. Pierre Charles L'Enfant in the Rotunda o:f the people of America, and in effect invites you to come and the United States Capitol at 10.30 o'clock on the morning of April 28, 1909, in connection with the transfer of his remains from Green Hill, join in doing honor to the foremost citizen of the world-the Maryland, to the Arlington Cemetery. The Vice-President o:f the United man whose magic sword brought into life human liberty and States and the ambassador of France will make addresses. human rights, the man whose character furnishes an example Very respect:fully, HENRY B. F. MACFARLAND, and inspiration for the youth of the ages which are to follow, President of the Board of Commissioners and whose performances are matchless, and whose memories are of tli-e District of Columbia. 'immortal. [Applause.] I hope it will be the pleasure of this 1\Ir. OLCOTT. Mr. Speaker, I move that the invitation be Hou"e to accept the invitation. [Applause.] accepted, with thanks to the Commissioners for so graciously Mr. MICHAEL E. DRISCOLL. Mr. Speaker, this is a welcome extending it to us. invitation and comes at an opportune time, when we are wait­ Mr. PAYNE. Is that accepting it by the Members of the ing and counting the days until the Senate concludes its prelim­ House as individuals? inary consideration of the tariff bill. We are not at present Mr. OLCOTT. The invitation is given to the Members of overworked and have a little leisure for relaxation and enter­ the House. tainment. The weather is delightful, and by the 30th of this The SPEAKER. The question is on the motion of the gen­ month Alexandria. Mount Vernon, and the surrounding country tleman from New York. will be fully enrobed in the freshness of spring beauty; and a The question was taken, and the motion was agreed to. yisit to that old and historic city, with the ·privilege of partici­ pating in the anniversary exercises of President Washington's PANAMA CANAL. first inauguration, will be an entertaining and enjoyable occa­ Mr. WANGER. Mr. Speaker, by permission of the House, sion. two editorials from the Engineering News were printed as House The first inauguration of the Father of His Country took Document No. 10. They related to the lock type of the canal place in the city of New York, but the Empire State gracefully at Panama. The Engineering News of April 1 bas an article yields to the Old Dominion the honor of celebrating the one which is really a complement, or a supplement and conclusion, hundred and twentieth anniversary of that great event. I trust to the former articles, and I ask unanimous consent that it, with this invitation will be unanimously accepted. the illustrations, be printed as a supplement {part 2) to House Mr. Speaker, I offer the following resolution, and move its Document No. 10. adoption: The SPEAKER. Is there objection? The Clerk read as follows: Mr. GARRETT. What is that, pictures? Mr. WANGER. There are two or three pictures in it, be­ House resolution 62. sides a number of plates showing the lines, contours, elevations, Resolt;ed, That the Speaker and the House of Representatives accept and depressions. with cordial thanks the invitation so graciously extended to them by Mr. GARRETT. The request of the gentleman is to print the Washington Monument Association, of Alexandria, Va. it in the RECORD? The SPEAKER. The question is upon the resolution. Mr. :WANGER. No; it is to print it as a House document, Mr. PAYNE. l\Ir. Speaker, a parliamentary inquiry. a supplement to House Document No. ·10. The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. The SPEAKER. Is there objection? [After a nause.] The Mr. PAYNE. Is that an acceptance of an invitation to attend Chair hears none. officially, as the House of Representatives, this function, or THE TARIFF. simply that the individual Members of the House accept the invi­ Mr. MURPHY. I only desire to insert in the RECORD an edi­ tation? torial which appeared in the Irish World of April 17, 1909, as The SPEAKER. The Chair does not know. That is hardly follows: a parliamentary inquiry. THROWS UP THE SPONGE. Mr. MICHAEL E. DRISCOLL. Mr. Speaker, the invitation The London Times, in an article dealing with the new tariff bill now before Congress, virtually acknowledges that the fi~ht between is extended to the 1\fembers, and the purpose of the resolution free trade and protection has gone against the policy which England of acceptance is that the Members shall attend as individuals. has so stoutly championed ever since she set herself t o the task of Mr. LIVINGSTON. Then why does not the gentleman say so? capturing the markets of the world. The London Times t ells its readers that England's present fiscal policy, compared with that adopted by :Mr. .MICHAEL E. DRISCOLL. I understand that the invita­ protectionist countries, is about equal to the advantages Nelson's tion is extended to the Speaker and to the Members of the fleet would have against a squadron of Dreadnoughts. "Other na­ House of Representatives. tions," the London Times bewails, "are clearly determined not to inter­ fere with our one monopoly of Cobdenite theory.'' The SPEAKER. The question of the gentleman from New The result is that whilst the United States, Germany, and other pro­ York [Mr. PAYNE ] is whether that invitation and acceptance tectionist countries are prosperous, free-trade England is sinking deeper of the same would take the House as an organized body, or is and deeper into the slough of despondency. We are told that English free traders can not understand the situation. They refuse to abandon the acceptance by the Speaker of the House and the Members of their theories, which they insist should bring increase of wealth to any the House" individually. country adopting them. And this they do despite the ugly facts, like 1909. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. l1479

the steady growth of English pauperism. which stare them In the face. order to have this matter brought up, I will move that the 'J.'he London Times, in describing the attitude of these unconYerted Cobdenites, says that antifree trade countries ••are all very pros­ House agree to that Senate amendment, in order that we may perous ; they are all increasing in wealth, and none of them has such have the voice of the House on it. · a burden of pauperism to carry as that which a.fflicts ourselves. It Mr. HULL of Iowa. Is that the amendment in regard to the really looks as if they knew something of business and the sources o! the wealth of nations. But we are still asked to believe that they appointment of clerks? know nothing at all about the matter, and are wandering in the mazes The SPEAKER. Does the Chair understand that the gentle-­ of economic superstition, happily dissipated for us by the science that man from Tennessee [Mr. SrMs] demands a separate vote on illuminated our path some sixty years ago. In these days of ironclads we are expected to go to battle in unprotected ships, because somebody certain Senate amendments-one or two? The Clerk will re-­ once proved at great length that when no other nation had ironclad port the amendments. - ships our wooden ones did extremely well, and that they are cheaper The Clerk read as follows : to build and to maintain than monsters. encumbered with thousands of tons of iron." Page 5, line 9, after "rating" insert: In this way does the London Times throw up the sp<>nge. In times "Provided, That hereafter all ·examinations of applicants for positions past free trade had no more noisy and hectoring champion than the in the government service, from any State or Territory, shall be had English organ from which we have quoted the above confession of: the in the State or Territory in which such applicant resides, and no per­ defeat of Cobdenism. Protection has stood the fest or experience; son shall be eligible for such examination or appointment unless he or free trade has not. and consequently if has become dlscredited even in she shall have been actually domiciled in such State or Territory for at the land of its origin. least one year previous to such examinations." ANNEXATION OF CUBA. Mr. SIMS. Mr. Speaker, I move to concur in the Senate Mr. HELM. Mr. Speaker, on last Monday I introduced amendment. · House concurrent resolution No. 15. I have received a great The SPEAKER. The Chair calls the attention of the gentleman many inquiries as to the impurt of that resolution, and I now to the fact that there is another amendment following, in section ask unanimous· consent to have the resolution printed in the 7, that apparently has reference to the one that has just been RECORD. ·read. However, the Chair is not sure about it. The ·SPEAKER. The gentleman asks unanimous consent to Mr. SIMS. If it does have reference to it, of course I move print in the RECORD the resolution, the title of which the Clerk to concur in all amendments that carry out the idea suggested: will report. in amendment 15. · The Clerk read as follows: Mr. HAY. Will, the. gentleman from Tennessee yield for a House concurrent resolution No. 15, relating to the annexation_ of moment? Cuba. Mr. SIMS. Certainly. _ Mr. PAYNE. I object to that, Mr. Speaker. The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman from Indiana [Mr. T]le- SEEAKER. Objection is heard. CRUMPACKER]> who controls the time, yield to the gentleman from Virginia [Mr~ HAY] ? · CENSUS BILL. Mr. CRUMPACKER. I yield. Mr. CRUMPACKER. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House Mr. HAY. I desire to say to the gentleman from Tennessee further insist on its disagreement to the Seri.ate amendments to [Mr. SI.Ms] that if his motion prevails, to concur in Sena.te House bill No. 1033, and agree to the conference asked. amendment No~ 15,. a motion ought also to be made to concur The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Indiana moyes that in the other amendment. The other two amendments relating the House do further insist upon its disagreement to the Senate to amendment 15 are not so shaped as that they will cover amendments· to the bill indicated, the title of which the Clerk the appointees under amendment 15, and in order that that will report. shall be done it is necessary that the other two amendments The Cierk read as follows: shall be amended so that they shall apply to all positions in A bill (H. R. 1033) to provide for the Thirteenth and subsequent the civil service. As they are now drawn they will only apply decennial censuses. to those to be appointed under this bill, whereas the positions The SPEAKER. And to assent to the request of th~ Senate under amendment 15 apply to all positions in the civil service. for a conference. The SPEAK.ER. Does the gentleman demand a separate Mr. LANGLEY. Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary inquiry. vote on the three amendments? The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. Mr. HAY. I do not demand a separate vote 'at all, Mr. Mr. LANGLEY. Is not the parliamentary status of this bill, Speaker, because there is no quorum here, and it will just now that the Senate has disagreed to the conference report; the · defeat the whole thing. . same as it was when the bill was originally reported from the Mr. CRUMPACKER. I hope the gentleman from Tennessee Senate with amendments? [Mr. SI.Ms} will not make the motion. I would much rather The SPEAKER. The Chair understands that the conference have it come in the form of an instruction to the conferees report was rejected by the Senate, from the message that has later on, because this amendment is palpably ill considered and been received from the Senate, which leaves the House bill imperfect. Senators admitted in the discussion of the confer­ pending now in the House with the Senate amendments thereto. ence report tha.t it would not do to incorpoMte the amendment Mr. LANGLEY. Mr. Speaker, at the proper time I desire to in the bill as it is written, and if the gentleman's motion pre­ make a motion for instructions to the conferees to insist on vails it will be a part of the law. I know the attitude of the disagreement to certain Senate amendments to which the for­ conferees. I know the amendment that it is proposed to otier to mer House conferees agreed, and I desire to ask whether that perfect the provision. The gentleman said, it is true, that there is in order now? has been no discussion of this question in the House. There The SPEAKER. Instructions to the conferees would come has been no intelligent discussion of this question anywhere. after the motion of the gentleman from Indiana is disposed of. There has been no such consideration of this imPortant amend­ M:.r. LANGLEY. All right. I simply desire to make that ment as to justify its adoption. It is not confined to the Census motion at the proper time, and to give notice now that I am Bureau at all; in fact, it does not apply to the temporary going to do so. census service, but is a general amendment of the civil-service l\lr. SIMS. Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary inquiry. law. It has not been considered by any committee, and it is The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. too important to be adopted at random. Mr. SIMS~ Does the motion to concur in a particular amend­ I read all of the debate of the Senate and, of course; I feel ment take precedence over a motion to send to conference? that it would be a grave mistake for the Honse now to concur The SPEAKER. It does. in the amendment, which is confessedly imperfect, and might Mr. SIMS. Well, Mr. Speaker, I happened to be present and possibly result in the ultimate defeat of the bill. heard the discussion in the Senate of this conference report, Mr. KEIFER. I want to call attention to the fact that it which was rejected almost altogether upon the question of an seems that this amendment, if adopted, would not only be ap­ amendment by the Senate requiring the appointment of clerks plicable to the taking of the census, but it would.be an amend­ and other employees from the. respective States with reference m~nt to the general law with reference to civil-service exami­ to the requirement of actual residence in the several States nations. for a period of twelve months prior to examination for appoint­ Mr. CRUMPACKER. It will not apply to the census force ment. I heard the discussion in the Senate on both sides, and at all, but it will apply to the Railway Mail Service and to all I think, in order that the sense of the House may be taken on other departmental service. It is simply injecting into the that question, we ought to have a. vote upon that particular bowels of the census bill a proposition to amend the general amendment, in order that the Senate may be informed just civil-service law without any sort of thought or consideration. how tbe House stands on this matter. That is what it is. It does not apply to the decennial census Mr.. HAY. There is no quorum here now. service, because that service is temporary, and under the rules ~Ir. SIMS. That question has not been discussed in the and regulations of the Civil Service Commission the rule o:fl House; we 8ent it to conference heretofore without any discns­ geog_raphical apportionment does not apply to the '"temporarY. sion upon that particular feature of it, and, Mr. Speaker, in service. ll480 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. APRIL 22,

But the House put a provision in this bill, and it is still in Mr. CRUMPACKER. I yield to the gentleman from Georgia, the bill, and it will remain there, requiring the rule of geograph­ who :first addressed me. - ical apportionment to apply to the force in the Census Office for l\fr. LIVINGSTON. The gentleman objects to the Senate in­ the temporary service. This proposition has no relation to the grafting into the bill an amendment that is not germana and census service; it was not intended to affect the census service, not important to the census bill. Will the gentleman please tell but was intended to reach the general departmental serTice, us when this House or the Senate has ever had an opportunity intended as a vital amendment to the civil-service law. to amend the civil-service law? Mr. HULL of Iowa. Will the gentleman yield for a question? Mr. CRUMPACKER. I do not know that it has had an op­ Mr. GAINES. I wish to ask the gentleman whether this portunity, but that is no reason for incorporating thie ex­ amendment relates to the residence of the applicant for appoint­ traneous matter in the census bill. ment, or merely to the place where the examinations are to be 1\fr. LIVINGSTON. It has never had and never will have. held? l\fr. CRUMPACKER. That is possible; Mr. CRUMPACKER. It relates to both. The amendment re­ l\Ir. LIVINGSTON. I hope the House will take this oppor­ quires the examination to be had in the States from which the tunity now, while we have it, to put this provision in. applicants apply. If the applicant for an appointment is a resi­ Mr. CRUMPACKER. We might as well put an income-tax dent of the State of West Virginia, he must be examined in the provision in the bill. State of West Virginia. Mr. LIVINGSTON. That is all right. The applicant must also, in addition to 'his legal residence, Mr. BURLESON. I wish we could do that. have been actually domiciled in the State for at least a year Mr. CRUMPACKER. There is just as much reason for it. prior to the examination. That may be a good amendment to Now I will yield to the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. DouGLAS]. the civil-service law. I do not· know. I am not familiar with l\fr. DOUGLAS. l\fr. Speaker, I want to ask the gentleman the civil-service law. It never has been considered by the Civil from Indiana-- Service Commission or by the Committee on Reform in the Civil 1\fr. WALLACE. Mr. Speaker, I make the point that there is Service in either House. Nobody knows what effect it would no quorum present in the House. have upon the service. It applies to charwomen, to messengers, The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Arkansas makes the to watchmen, and unskilled laborers. Now I yield to the gentle­ point that no quorum is present. The Chair will count. [After man from Iowa. counting.] One hundred and forty-three l\lembers present; not Mr. HULL of Iowa. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the a quorum. gentleman from Indiana if the bill providing for taking the cen­ ADJOURNMENT. sus does not contain the provision he referred to, that the ap­ l\fr. PAYNE. l\Ir. Speaker, I move that the House do now pointments shall be of applicants from the States, as provided adjourn. for civil-service employees? Mr. LANGLEY. Pending that motion, Mr. Speaker, I want Mr. CRUMPACKER. Yes. to ask unanimous consent-- l\fr. HULL of Iowa. Now, the gentleman says this provision Mr. P A.Y:NE. There is no quorum present, and the unanimous would not apply to the census. If the rule of the Civil Service consent can not be given. Commission is now to permit anybody in Washington to be ac­ The SPEAKER. Nothing can be done. Even personal re­ credited to any State he may desire to claim to be from, would quests on the Speaker's desk can not be submitted. not the same rule apply to the census employees, and would not The motion of Mr. PAYNE was agreed to. the same difficulty come up by allowing those that live in Wash­ Accordingly (at 12 o'clock and 41 minutes p. m.) the House ington the first chance for the examination and appointment? adjourned until Monday, April 26, 1909. In other words, is it not a good time now for the Congress of the United States to try to preserve as much of the rights of · ~ the States to fill these offices as it possibly can? Because the PUBLIC BILLS, RESOLUTIONS, AND MEMORIALS. States are being constantly edged out. I would like to ask Under clause 3 of Rule XXII, bills, resolutions, and memo­ the gentlem~n to explain why it is not a good time for us to take rials of the following titles were introduced and severally re­ care of that evil. ferred as follows : Mr. CRUMPACKER. I understood the gentleman was merely By l\Ir. OLCOTT: A bill (H. R. 8229) for the relief of officers going to ask me a question. The gentleman's plea that this of tile navy retired for diEability incident to the service, em­ peculiar service should be under the rule of the geographical ployed on active duty-to the Committee on Naval Affairs. apportionment is void of business judgment. Of cour:::e, if we Hy l\Ir. CLARK of Mis ouri: A bill (II. R. 8230) to incor­ are providing for the decennial census chiefly for the purpose porate the Cult of the Aryans-to the Committee on the District of creating jobs, then the geographical apportionment is the of Columbia. proper thing. By Mr. MACON: A bill (H. R. 8231) to prevent the use of Now, the attitud~ of the House in incorporating in the bill tlle mails, the telegraph or telephone lines, and the railroads, the provision the gentleman referred to, the one that he ad­ by, any company, corporation, etc., for purposes of interstate vocated very strongly, has already required an amendment in­ or foreign _commerce where the aggregate value represented by creasing the minimum pay of these employees from $600 to $720, their stocks, bonds, etc., exceeds the aggregate physical value or a total of $350,000. If that is legislation in the interest of of the property, or the reasonable value of the busines·s, privi­ the public service, in behalf of the people of the country, the lege, or franchise that they are issued to represent the value House did a wise thing in providing geographical apportionment. of, and for other purposes-to the Committee on the Judiciary. Mr. HULL of Iowa. Just one more question. By Mr. ALEXANDER of :Missouri: A bill (H. R. 8232) grant­ Mr. CRUMPACKER. When ·! get through with this state­ ing pensions to the teamsters who served the Government of ment. We were required to increase the minimum of pay al­ the United States in the war with Mexico, and for other pur­ lowed to these clerks from $600 to $720, in order to make it poses-to the Committee on Pensions. some inducement for the constituents of the gentleman from Also, a bill (H. R. 8233) authorizing the Secretary of War Iowa and others to come here and accept service if they take to furnish two condemned bronze or brass cannon or fieldpieces the examination. and cannon balls to the city of Gallatin, in the State of Mis­ Mr. HULL of Iowa. Just one more question. The old cen­ souri-to the Committee on Military Affairs. sus was taken by apportionment of the appointees among the By Mr. CAMERON: A bill (H. R. 8234) amending an act to different districts in the country, and that, according to the create a customs district of the Territory of Arizona, approved statement of the Director of the Census, was as economically April 29, 1890-to the Committee on Ways and Means. taken as any census has ever been taken, and the work was as By l\Ir. ANDREWS: A. bill (H. R. 8235) for the purchase of well done as it ever had formerly been done. a site and the erection of an electrical power plant for irriga­ ·why not have the same rule apply, except, possibly, that the tion purposes in Deming, N. Mex., or vicinity-to the Com­ applicants must be selected under the civil-service law? They mittee on Irrigation of Arid Lands. would be apportioned to the various districts, and every district By Mr. NEEDHAM: A bill (H. R. 8236) to create a United would ·get its full share, instead of having these appointments States Court of Customs Appeals and to define and regulate in limited to the city of Washington and certain States near, certain cases the jurisdiction of the courts of tlle United States which now get four-fifths of the appointments. It is not a job. and for other purposes-to the Committee on Ways and l\feans'. It is for the benefit of the public service. Certainly a man Also, a bill (H. R. 8237) to amend an act entitled ".An act should not be disqualified because he does not live in the District for the relief of certain settlers on the public lands, and to pro­ of Columbia. vide for the repayment of certain fees, purchase mone:r, and The SPEAKER. To whom does the gentleman yield? Does commissions paid on void entries of public lands "-to the Com­ the gentleman yield to the gentleman from Ohio 1 mittee on the Public Lands. ~909. .CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- HOUSE. tl481

Also, a bill (H. R. 8238) to provide for c•;mt;inuation of in­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8265) granting an increase of pension to vestigations of the rivers and water resources of the United William Roach-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. States-to the Committee on Rivers and E;arbors. Also, a bil.l (H. R. 8266) granting an increase of pension to Alm, a bill (H. ~- 8239) to amend section 6 of an act en­ James Richey-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. titled "An a.ct to regulate commerce," approved February 4, Also, a bill ( H. R. 8267) granting· an increase of pension to 1887, and acts amendatory thereof-to the Committee on Inter­ Lewis M. 1\fedlin-to the Committee on Pensions. state and Foreign Commerce. Also, a bill (H. R. 8268) granting an increase of pension to By Mr. RICHARDSON: A bill (H. R. 8240) to increase the William McLane-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. appropriation for a public building at Florence, Ala.-to the Also, a bill (H. R. 8269) granting an increase of pension to Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds. Luther Lively-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By Mr. KENNEDY of Ohio: A bill (H. R. 8241) for the erec­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8270) granting an increase of pension to tion of a public building at the city of Salem, in the State of John M. Letsinger-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Ohio-to the Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds. Also, a bill (H. R. 8271) granting an increase of pension to · Also, a bill (H. U. 8242) for the enlargement of the post­ Robert N. Johnston-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. office building at Canton, Ohio-to the Committee on Public Also, a bill ( H . R. 8272) granting an increase of pension to Buildings and Grounds. Benjamin F . Houston-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By Mr. WILSON of Illinois: A bill (H. R. 8243) to authorize Also, a bill (H. R. 8273) granting an increase of pension to the Indiana Harbor Belt Railroad Company to construct a Cyrena lU. Evans-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. bridge across the Little Calumet River, in Thornton Township, Also, a bill (H. R. 8274) granting an increase of pension to in the county of Cook and State of Illinois-to the Committee Prior P. Baird-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Also, a bill (H. R. 8275) granting an increase of pension to By l\ir. HAY: Resolution (H. Res. 63) as to number of em­ Alford Baker-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. ployees in the classified civil service-to the Committee on Re­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8276) granting an increase of pension to form in the Civil Service. Charles S. Ashton-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By Mr. SHEFFIELD : Memorial of the general assembly of Also, a bill (H. R. 8277) granting an increase of pension to the State of Rhode Island, urging uniform recognition of Absalom P. Thompson-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. American passports-to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 8278) granting an increase of pension to By Mr. ROBERTS: Memorial of the legislature of Massa­ Thomas Thompson-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. chusetts relative to rolls of Revolutionary regiments and com­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8279) granting an increase of pension to panies and to statements regarding Revolutionary pensioners­ Benjamin St. Clair-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. to the Committee on Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8280) granting an increase of pension to Also, memorial of the legislature of Massachusetts, protesting Caswell Seamore-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. against the imposition by the Federal Government of a tax on Also, a bill (H. R. 8281) granting an increase of pension to inheritances-to the Committee on Ways and Means. John A. Smith-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8282) granting an increase of pension to PRIVATE BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS. David C. Sparks-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · Also, a bill (H. R. 8283) granting an increase of pem1ion to Under clause 1 of Rule XXII, private bills and resolutions Joseph M. Squibb-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. of the following titles were introduced and severally referred, Also, a bill ( H. R. 8284) granting an increase of pension to as follows: Andrew T. Smith-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By lUr. ALEXANDER of Missouri: A bill (H. R. 8244) grant­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8285) granting an increase of pension to ing a pension to Martha J. Jackson-to the Committee on In­ William N. Sexton-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. valid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8286) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8245) granting a pension to Phillip Gen­ Joseph Shields-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. .try-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8287) granting an increase of pension to Also a bill (H. R. 8246) to cQrrect the military record of Christian Shores-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Harri;on R. Crecelius-to the Committee on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 8288) granting an increase of pension to Also a bill (H. R. 8247) to correct the military record of Thomas Smith-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · Ander~on Creason-to the Committee on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 8289) ·granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8248) for the relief of Robert Griffin- William G. Selvidge-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. to the Committee on Military Affairs. · · By Mr. ALE.c"""CANDER of New York: A bill (H. R. 8249) Also, a bill (H. R. 8290) granting an increase of pension to granting an increase of pension to Oliver Brewer-to the Com- Mary E. Spangle-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. mittee on Invalid Pensions. · Also, a bill (H. R. 8291) granting an increase of pension to By Mr. AUSTIN: A bill (H. R. 8250) granting an increase William T. Sims-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. of pension to James S. Yarnell-to the Committee on Invalid Also, a bill (H. R. 8292) granting an increase of pension to Pensions. Levi Summay-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. , Also a bill (H. R. 8251) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8293) granting an increase of pension to Gilbert Zachary-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. John B. Schroll-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. , Also a bill ( H. R. 8252) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8294) granting an increase of pension to Celina' Wilhite-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Joseph M. Squibb-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. , Also a bill (H. R. 8253) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8295) granting an increase of pension to Geor"'~R. West-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Theodore S. Smith-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Al;o a bill (H. R. 8254) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8296) granting an increase of pension to Celina.Wilhite-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Malinda C. Summers-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. . Also a bill (H. R. 8255) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8297) granting an increase of pension to Lewis M. Wester-to the Committee.on Invalid Pensions. Joseph Simmons-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also a bill ( H. R. 8256) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8298) granting an increase of pension to David 'u. Weagley-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. J esse J . Riggs-to the Committee on Im·alid Pensions. Also a bill (H. R. 8257) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8299) granting an increase of pension to Henry Rigsby-to the Committee on Pensions. 1Willia{n H. Warner-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also a bill (H. R. 8258) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8300) granting an increase of pension to James'Vandergriff-to the Committee on Invalid Pensipns. Thomas M. Rankin-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also a bill (H. R. 825D) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8301) granting an increase of pension to '.AJ.bert'varnell-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Joseph J . Ricketts-to the Committee on Inrnlid Pensions. Also a bill ( H. R. 82GO) granting an incr~se of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8302) grantin~ an increase of pension to Alga S. Roach-to the Committee on Invalid P ensions. 1Willia{n P. Tutterow-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also a bill (H. R. 8261) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8303) granting an increase of pension to James 'w. Taylor-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions~ Thomas M. Rankin-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also a bill (H. R. 8262) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8304) granting an increase of pension to :Alex B. Tadlock-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Thurman H. Rodeheaver-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill .(H. R. 8263) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8305) granting an increase of pension to Samuel M. Thompson-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. John Ridge-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. n. 8264) gran_ting an increase o.f pension to Also, a bill (H. R . 8306) granting an increase of pension to Nancy Sexton-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Benjamin R. Ricketts-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. 11482 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-.HOUSE. APRIL 22~

Also, a bill (H. R. 8307) granting an increase of pension to Aiso, a: bill (H. R. 8349-) granting an increase of ·pension· to William G. Russell-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Joseph Livsey-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions;. Also, ai bill ( H. R. 8308 ). granting au increase of pensi<>n to Also, a bill CR R. 8350.) granting an increase of pension to George W. Qualls-to· the Committee on Invalid Pensions. . J'ames: Key-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions~ Also, a bill ( H~ R. 83D9·) granting an increase of pension to Also, a: bill (H. R. 835-lJ granting an increase of pension to Calvin Patterson-to the Committee on Pensions · Andrew J. King-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8310) granting an increase €>f pensfon to Also, a bill ( H. R. 8352) granting an increase- of pension to· Robert A. Patterson~to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · John H. King-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8311) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8353) granting an increase of pension to John Patrick-to the Committee on Invalid: Pensions. Samuel Keeble-to. the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also-, a bill ( H. R. 8312) granting an increase of pension to . AT-so. a bill (H. R. 8354) granting an increase of pension to Lycurgus. Peltier-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Benjamin H.. Keith-to th~ Committee on Invalid: Pensions.. Also, a bill (H. R. 8313) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8355) granting, an increase of pension. to John A .. Prosise-to· the Committee on: Invalid Pensions~ . William H. Kidd-to the Committee on Invalid: Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8314} granting an increase- of pension to Also, a bill ( H. R. 8356) granting an increase of pension. to Thomas. G. Pardne-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. . William R. Kidd-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (B. R. 8315) granting an increase of pens.i.-0n to Also, a bilt (H. R. 8357) granting an. increase of pension, to A. J. Pedigo-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Isaac MAW. Keller-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8316) granting an. mcrease oi pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8358) granting an increase of pension to James A. Ogg-to the Committee on Invalid :Pensions~ Andrew G. Kitts-to the Committee on: Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 83J._7} granting an increase of pension to Also, a pill ( H. R. 8359) granting an increase of pension to Robert Osborn-to the Committee on: Invalid Pensions~ Andrew ;r. King-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8318}. granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill f}I. R. 8360 J granting an. increase of pension to Delos Odell-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions-. Elizabeth Hughett~to the Committee- on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8319) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill'. (H. R. 8361) grantmg an increase of Pension tQ Robel't Orr-to the Committee on Invaltd Pensions: Samuel Hamilton-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also a bill ( H. R. 8320) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8362) granting an ihcrease of pension to Wesle; Owens,_to th-e Committee on Invalid Pensions Hugh Hnbbs~ta the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8321) granting an. increase o.f pension to Also, a bill ( H. R. 8363) granting· an increase of pension to William L. Northern-to the Committee on. Invalid :Pensions. William A. Hutcheson-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R.. 8322). granting an increase of· pension to Also,. a bill (H. R. 8364) granting an increase of pension to Emanuel Netherway-to- the Committee on In.valid Pensions John A. Harris-to the- Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8323). granting an incre.., se of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 836'5') granting, an. increase of pension to Adam R ... Northern-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. William H. Hubble-to the Committee on Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8324) granting an increase of: pension to Also, a bill ( H. R. 8366) granting an increase of pension to Luvernia Newport-to the. Committee on Invalid PensionsA. Spencer H. Henry-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8325) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill ( H R. 8367) granting an increase of pension to John Marney-to the Committee. on Invalid Pensiws: Thomas W. Hall-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8326.) granting an increase of. pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8368) granting an increase of pension. to Lewis M.. Moses-to the Cn to James' M. Freeman~to- the Committee on Invalid Pensions. H enry' l\1c:\lahan-to the Committee on Invalid :Pensions Also, a bill (H. R. 8381) granting an increase o:t pension to Also a bill (H. R. 8340) granting an increase of pension to John w. Fielden-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. James' C. McConnell-to the Committee on. Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. lt. 8382} granting an increase of pension to Linsey H. Fields-to the- Committee on Invalid Pensions. .Also 1 a bill (H. R. 8341) granting an increase of pension to James McCulley-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8383) granting an increase of pension to Also a bill (H. R. 8342) granting an increase o:f pension to Henry Finger-to the- Committee on Invalid Pensions. · John .A. McKelvey, alias Jackson Burk-to the Committee on Also a bill (H. R. 8384) granting an increase of pension to Invalid Pensions. James'F. Foster-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also a bill ( H. R. 8385) granting an increase of pension to Also 1 a bill (H. R. 8343) granting an increase of pension to Jame$- M. Lawson-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions., Willia:n G. French-to the Committee on Invalid Pensio.ns. Also a bill (H. R. 8344) granting an. increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8386) granting an increase of pension to John Lobach-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions John W. Fielden-to- the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · Also, a bill ( H. R. 8345) granting an increase of pension. fo Also a bill (H. R. 8387) granting an increase of pension to Fletcher Lawson-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. John N. Fagan-to the Committee- on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. ;a. 8346) granting an increase of pensi-On to Also, a bill (H. R. 8388) granting an increase of pension to John M. Letsinger-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. . John Farmer-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · Also, a bill (H. R. 8347) granting an increase of pens-ion to Also, a bill (H~ R. 8389) granting an increase of pension to Charlotte J. Triplett Lewis-to the Committee on Pensions. John A. Ford-to' tile Committee on. Invalid Pensions. Also a bill (H. R. 8348) granting. an increase of pension to Also, a bill (HL R. 8390} granting an increase of pension to '.Alex~der R. Long-to the Committee on Pensions. Ferguson Fox-to th.e Committee on Invalid Pensi-ons. 1909. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- HOUSE. 11483

Also, a bill (H. R. 8391) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8433) granting an increase of pension to Mary A. Edington-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Thomas W. Brown-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. n. 8392) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8434) granting an increase of pension to Alexander Eckel-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Julian Barger-to the Committee on Im·alid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8393) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8435) granting an increase of pension to James Eldridge-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Peter 0. Benham-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8394) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8436) granting an increase of pension to James Eldridge-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Thomas J. Bales-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (II. R. 8395) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8437) granting an increase of pension to Barnard J. Irwin-to the Committee on Pensions. William M. Boles-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. n. 8396) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8438) granting an increase of pension to Andrew J. Dupes-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Alexander Bright-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. AlEo, a bill (H. R. 8397) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8439) granting an increase of pension to John Daly-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Thomas C. Blevins-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8398) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8440) granting an increase of pension to .William w. Dunn-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Joseph A. Brown-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8399) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill ( H. R. 8441) granting an increase of pension to John Daugherty, jr.-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Hazlewood A. C. Bradfute-to the Committee on Invalid Pen· Also, a bill (H. R. 8400) granting an increase of pension to sions. John J. Duff-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8442) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8401) granting an increase of pension to Julia E. Angel-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. George C. Davis-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8443) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. n. 8402) granting an increase of pension to Alexander Arnold-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. John w. Davis-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8444) granting an increase of pension to · f · t George W. Aldridge-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8403) granting an increase 0 penswn ° Also, a bill (H. R. 8445) granting an increase of pension to Joel Dotson-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. James Adams-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8404) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8446) granting an increase of pension to Thomas L. Duncan-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. George W. Arms-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8405) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8447 ) granting a pension to George Wells- Samuel Davis-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8406) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8448) granting a pension to Mary E. J. R. Doty-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Witt-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8407) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8449) granting a pension to Elihu Wil- Thomas W. Devaney-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. . burn-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8408) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8450) granting a pension to Benjamin Alfred M. Cox-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Wardell-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R 8409) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8451) granting a pension to George A. Richard Cox-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Walker-to the Committee on Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8410) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8452) granting a pension to E. L. Wat- Andrew Covington-to the Co..mmittee on Invalid Pensions. kins-to the Committee on Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8411) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8453) granting a pension to George A. John A. Collier-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Walker-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8412) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8454) granting a pension to Robert G. John C. Carroll-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Tindle-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · Also, a bill (H. R. 8413) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8455) granting a pension to Jane Turner- Sylvester Cooper-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8414) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8456) granting a pension to Martha Tal- John W. Carter-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. ley-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8415) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8457) granting a pension to William H . Robert Crudgington-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions: Shillings-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8416) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8458) granting a pension to Martha Smith~ John Coppock-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. ers-to the Committee on Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8417) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8459) granting a pension to Sarah J. John B. Cox-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Smith-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8418) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8460) granting a pension to Elizabeth John W. Cheatham-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Smith-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also a bill (H. R. 8419) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8461) granting a pension to Sabra Shoot- Elijah1 Cates-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. man-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8420) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8462) granting a . pension to Mary A. George W. Carney-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Sharp-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. ' Also, a bill (H. n. 8421) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8463) granting a pension to Alonzo Shd'ot- John T. Chiles-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. man-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also a· bill (H. R. 8422) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8464) granting a pension to Annie Rose- Hugh L. Cox-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. boro-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also a bill (H. R. 8423) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8465) granting a pension to Nancy A. Sarah'S. Conway-to the Committee on Pensions. Robbs-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also a bill (H. R. 8424) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8466) granting a pension to George w. John H. Cross-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Russell-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also a bill (H. R. 8425) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8467) granting a pension to Jane Roberts- Ilicha~d Cox-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also a bill (H. n. 8426) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8468) granting a pension to Jesse L. Adam T. Cottrell-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Riggs-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8427) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8469) granting a pension to Alice Robert- Thornas C. Blevins-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. son-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Al .., o. a bill (H. R. 8428) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8470) granting a pension to Martha c. Henry Blevens-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Rayfield-to the Committee on Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8429) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8471) granting a pension to Nancy Ann Stephen Banks-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Ray-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also. a bill (H. R. S-:130) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8472) granting a pension to Frank Ro- 1\Iatthew Bunch-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. mines-to the Committee on Penflions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8431) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8473) granting a pension to Isaac B. Isaac B. Beals-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Price-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a· bill (H. R. 8432) granting an inc~ease o~ pension to I ~~o, a bill (H. R.. 8474) gran~ng a i:enston to John W. '.Alexander Baker-to the Committee on Invalid Pens10ns. Phillips-to t~e Committee on Invahd Pensions. 1484 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-ROUSE. APRIL 22,

.Also, a bill (H. R. 8475) granting a pension to Martha Pat· Also, a bill (H. R. 8517) granting a pension to Catherine terson-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. ·Hartly-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. .Also, a bill (H. R. 8476) granting a pension to Francis M. Also, a bill (H. R. 8518) granting a pension to Cleopatra Oglesby-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Henshaw-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8477) granting a pension to Polly Nelson- Also, a bill (H. R. 8519) granting a pension to John Green­ to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. .Also, a bill (H. R. 8478) granting a pension to James W. Also, a bill (H. R. 8520) granting a pension to William G • Mitchell-to the Committee on Pensions. Blanton-to the Committee on Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8479) granting a pension to John T. Mock­ Also, a bill ( H. R. 8521) for the relief of Mrs. Martha V ~ abee--to the Committee on Pensions. Jones-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8480) granting a pension to Frank Med­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8522) for the relief of Susan J. Jones-to lin-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8481) granting a pension to Alfred Mc­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8523) for the relief of T. J. Wear-to the carter-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Committee on War Claims. .Also, a bill (H. R. 8482) granting a pension to Sampson Mc­ Also, a bill ( H. R. 8524) for the relief of Mrs. Clarissa H . Gee-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Tipton-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8483) granting a pension to Nancy Lay­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8525) for the relief of J. J. Starnes-to the to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Committee on War Claims. . Also, a bill (H. R. 8484) granting a pension to Thomas P. A. A1so, a bill (H. R. 8526) for the relief ·of William Spears-to Leonard-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. the Committee on Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8485) granting a pension to Harriet J. Also, a bill (H. R. 8527) for the relief of Joe S. Shipe--to the Knight-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Committee on War Claims. · Also, a bill ( H. R. 8486) granting a pension to Thomas Also, a bill ( H. R. 8528) for the relief of Eli Sharp-to the Kehoe--to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Committee on War Claims. .Also, a bill (H. R. 8487) granting a pension to Swanzy N. Also, a bill (H. R. 8529) for -the relief of James J. Sellers-to Kennedy-to the Committee on Pensions. the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8488) granting a pension to John L. John­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8530) for the relief of F. A. R. Scott-to son-to the Committee on Pensions. the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8489) granting a pension to Addie Jones­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8531) for the relief of Mrs. Lucy Mynatt-< to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. to the Committee on War Claims. .Also, a bill (H. R. 8490) granting a pension to Mallissa C. Also, a bill (H. R. 8532) for the relief of Mary A. Mynatt-< Hall--to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8533) for the relief of David H. Marney_.. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8491) granting a pension to Tirza El. B. to the Committee on War Claims. Hendricks--to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. .Also, a bill (H. R. 8534) for the relief -of R. M. Magill-to the .Also, a bill (H. R. 8492) granting a pension to Joshua Good­ Committee on Claim.s. to the Committee on Invalid '.Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8535) for the relief of George T.. Lark.in­ .Also, a bill (H. R. 8493) granting a pension to J. S. Grubb­ to the Committee on Claims. to the Committee on In-valid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8536) for the relief of Samuel Lewis-to Also, a bill (H. R. 8494) granting a pension to Frank C. the Committee on War Claims. Griffith-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8537) for the relief of Lee T. Kitts-to the Also, a bill (H. R. 8495) granting a pension to Helen Grant­ Committee on Claims. to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8538) for the relief of Mrs. James Ken­ Also, a bill ( H. 'R. 8496) granting a pension to Serelda Day- nedy-to Uie Committee on War Claims. to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · Also, a bill (H. R. 539) for the relief of James w. Holt­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8497) granting a pension to Henrietta E. to the Committee on War Claims. Davis-to· the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8540) for the relief of Charles J. Harvey~ Also, a bill ( H. R. 8498) granting a pension to Thomas El. to the Committee on War Claims. . Duncan-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8541) for the relief of George Marion Also, a bill (H. R. 8499) granting pensions to the minor heirs Gaut-to the Committee on War Claims. of Elisha Darity-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8542) for the relief of George Marion Also, a bill (H. R. 8500) granting a pension to Sarah Dun­ Gaut-to the Committee on War Claims. can-to the Committee on !nyalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8543) for the relief of Capt. James H. Also, a bill . (H. R. 8501) granting a pension to William Galbraith-to the Committee on Claims. Cooper-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8544) for the relief of Jeremiah Camp­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8502) granting a pension to James C. Clax­ bell-to the Committee on War Claims. ton-to the Committee on Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8545) for the relief of Sarah E. Cox­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8503) granting a pension to J. T. Cooper­ to the Committee on War Claims. to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8546) for the relief of Harry A. Claiborn~ Also, a bill ( H. R. 8504) granting a pension to Daniel Cahill­ to the Committee on War Claims. to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8547) for the relief of Calvtn L. Ohildres8-! Also, a bill ( H. B. 8505) granting a pension to Daniel Best­ to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8548) for the relief of l\Irs. Amanda M. to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Brown-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8506) granting a pension to Sarah Brimer­ Also, a ·bill (H. R. 8549) for the relief ot W. L. Brown-to to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8507) gran ting a pension to Andrew Also, a bill '(H. R. 8550) for the relief of Charles Baum-to Baird-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8508) granting a pension to Sarah J. Also, a bill (H. R. 8551) for the relief of M. E. Hall and the Blair-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. estate of James B. Hall, deceased-to the Committee on War .Also, a bill (H. R. 8509) granting a pension to Thomas Claims. Baker-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8552) for the _relief of the legal representa­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8510) granting a pension to Daniel Bur­ tives of Jacob S. Fritts, deceased-to the Committee on War kett-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8511) granting a pension to Joseph A. Also, a bill (H. R. 8553) for the relief of the personal repre­ Bray-to the Committee on Pensions. sentatives of Mitchell J. Childress, deceased-to the Committee Also, a bill (H. R. 8512) granting a pension to Victoria Blan­ on War Claims. ton-to the Committee on Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8554) for the relief of the legal representa­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8513) granting a pension to Othello T. tives of Jacob G. Carmichael, deceased-to the Committee on Atkinson-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. War Claims. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8514) granting a pension to Zack Amis­ Also; a bill (H. R. 8555) for the relief of the personal repre­ to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. sentatives of Horace L. Bradley, deceased-to the Committee on .Also, a bill (H. R. 8515) granting a pension to Samuel H. War Claims. Thacker-to the Committee on Pensions. · Also, a bill (H. R. 8556) for the relief of the legal representa­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8516) granting a pension to Rachel M. tives of William C. Blalock. deceased-to the Committee on McNellly-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. War Claims. 1909. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE.

Also, a bill (H. n. 8557) for the relief of Margaret Emma. Also, a bill (H. n. 8593) for the relief of the estate of Lem- Brown, Kate D. Jarnagin, John Jacob Hubbard, and Georgia uel Cox, deceased-to the Committee on War Claims. B. •reague, heirs of Mary Jane Hubbard, deceased~to the Com- . Also, a bill (H. R. 8594) to correct the military record of mittee on War Claims. William H. Shillings-to the· Committee on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (IL R. 8558) to grant an honorable discharge to Also, a. bill (H. R. 8595) to correct the record of Roadman. V. T. J. Murphy-to the Committee on Military Atrnirs. Burleson, Company H, Third Tennessee Mounted Infantry-to Also, a bill (H. R. 8559) to correct the war record of G. W. the Committee on l\Iillta.ry Affairs. Swanay-to the Committee on Milita.tY Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 8596) to carry into effect the findings of Also, a bill (IL R. 85SO) to correct the war record of George the Court of CI.aims in the matter of the claim <:Jf. the estate Wa hington Pevyhouse-to the Committee on Military Affairs. of Isaac Tipton, deceased-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8561) to correct the war record of Samuel Also, a bill (H. R. 8597) to carry into effect the findings of Braden-to the Committee on Military Affairs. the Court of Claims in the matter of the claim of John G. Hen- Also, a bill (H. n.. 8562) to remove the charge of desertion son, administrator, etc.~to the Committee on War Claims. standing against Henry Wallace-to the Committee on Military Also, a bill (H. R. 8598) to carry into effect the findings of the Affairs. · Coort of Claims in the matter of the claim of Warha.m Eas- Also, a bill (H. R. 8563) to remove the charge of desertion ley-to the Committee on War Cln.ims. against George Washington-to the Committee on Military By l\!r. BARCLAY: A bill (H. R. 8500) granting an increase Affairs. · of pension to Thaddeus C. Rumbarger-to the Committee on Also, a bill (H. R. 8564:) to remove the charge of desertion Invalid Pensions. against John C. White-to the Committee on Military Affairs. By Mr. BROWNLOW: A bill (H. R. 8600) granting n pen- Also, a bil1 (H. R. 8565) to remove the charge of desertion sion to Margaret A. Shaner-to the Committee on Invalid Pen­ against Elihu Wilburn-to the Committee on Military Affairs. sions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8566) to remove the charge of desertion Also, a bill (H. R. 8601) granting an increase of pension to standing against Hugh Washam-to the Committee on 1\filitary Elkana Tester-to the- Committee on Invalid Pensions. Affairs. By Mr. BURLEIGH: A bill (H. R.- 8602} granting an in- .Also, a bill (H. R. 8567) to remove the charge of desertion. crease of pension to Charles V. Richards-to the Committee on standing against Gilbert C. Smith-to the Committee on Miii- Invalid PenSions. tary Affairs. By l\lr. CAMERON: A bffi (Ir. R. 8603} granting an increase Also, a bill (H. R. 8568) to remove the charge of desertion of pension to Bert 0. Brown-to the Committee on Invalid standing against Mark Seiber-to the Committee on l\filitary Pensions. Affairs. Alsu, a bill (H. R. 8604) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8569) to remove the charge of desertion Alice I. Simpson-to the Committee on Invn.lid Pensions. against Samuel Robbins-to the Committee on Mllit:ary Affairs. Al.soy a bill (H. R. 8605) for the relie-f of Dr. Warren E, Day- Al o, a bill (H. n.. 8570) to remove the charge of desertion to the Committee on Claims. standing against George W. Mabry-to the Committee on Uill- Also, a bill (H. R. 8606) granting certain lands in the San tary Affairs. Francisco Forest Reserve in Arizona for Observatory porpose.s- Also, a bill (H. R. 8571) to remove the charge of desertion to the Committee on the Publle Lands. against William Lawson-to the Committee on lUilitary Affairs. By Mr. CANNON: A bill (H R. 8607) granting an increase Also, a bill (H. R. 8572) to remove the charge of desertion of pension to D P. Bughes-to the Committee on Invalid Pen- against Ben Graves-to the Committee on Military Affairs. sions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8573) to remove the charge of desertion Also, a bill (H. R. 8608} granting an increase of pension to standing against Jerry Fritts-to the Committee on Military Ezra R. Moore-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions.. Affairs. Also, a bill (Hr n.. 8609) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8574) to remove the charge of desertion Uva C. Garrison-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. standing against Samuel S. Caldwell-to the Committee on By Mr. CARLIN: A bill (H. R. 8610) granting a. pengion to Military Affairs. H. T. Cr Hough-to the Committee- on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8575) to remove charge of desertion · Also, a bill {H~ R. 8611) granting a pension to Joseph T. against David J. Collins-to the Committee on Milit:ary Affairs. FolU--to the Committee on. Pensions. Also, a bill (H. n. 8576) to remove the charge of desei'tion Also, a bill (H.- R. 8612} grnnting an increase of pension to standing against Derious 0. Bibee-to the Committee on Mili- Israel G. Powell-to, the Committee on Invalid Pensions. tary Affairs. Also, n. bill ( H. R.. 8613) granting a.n increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8577) . to remove the charge of desertion Mary A- Davis-to the Committee on. Invalid Pensions. standing against John W. Bennett-to the Committee on .lllili- By Mr. DOUGLAS: A bill (H~ R. 8614) granting an increase tary Affairs. of pension to William A.. Harvey-to the Committee on Invalid Also, a bill (H. R. 8578) to remove the charge of desertion Pensions. · against Pleasant M. Chapman-to the Committee on :Military By 1\lr. GILL of Mlssouti: A bill (H. R. 8615) granting an Affairs. increase of pension to George B. Sheridan-to the Committee on Also, a bill (H. R. 8579) for the reliet of the hetrs of Benja- Invalid Pensions. min Prater..:...._to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8616) granting an increase of pensio.n to Also, a bill (H. R. 8580) for the relief of the heirs of John w. Thomas Welstead-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. liarle-to- the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8617} granting a pension to Edward Dods- Also, a bill (H. R. 8581) for the relief of the heirs of John worth-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Gates, deceased-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8618} granting a pension to Joseph Moore-- Al o, a bill (H. R. 8582) for the relief of the estate of Noah to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. C. Wenger-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. n.. 8619) granting a pension to l\fary E. Le Also, a bill (H. R. 8583) for the relief of the est:ate of Wil- Roy-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. llam F. Sharp-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8620) to coTrect the military reeord of Also, a bill (H. R. 8584) for the relief of the estate of David Edward Dodsworth-to the Committee on Military Affah·s. Pangle, deceased-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R.- 8621) to remm-e the charge of de ertion Also, a bill (H. R. 8585) for the relief of the estate of John against Aaron B. Van Pelt and grant him an honorable dis- North, decea.sed~to the Committee on War Claims. charge-to the Committee on Military A..tiail·s. Al o, a bill (H. R. 8586) for the relief of the estate of Nelson Also, a bill (H. R. 8622) to pla.ee the nrune of Charles A. ·Mynatt-to the Committee on War Claims. Coulson upon the mnster-in roll of Company H, Twenty-first Also, a bill (H. R. 8587) for the relief of the estate (}f Wil- Regiment Missouri Volunteer Infantry-to the Committee on limn Kennedy, deceased-to the Committee on War Claims. ~Iilitary Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 8588) for the relief of the estate.of Wil- By l\Ir. GUERNSEY: A bill (H. R. 8623) granting an in- li.arn l\L Goforth-to the Committee on War Claims. crease of pension to Thomas J. Calligan-to the Committee on Also, a bill (H. R. 8589) for the relief of the estate of Invalid Pensions. Joseph Galbraith-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8624) granting an increase of pension to Al<>o, a bill (H. R. 8590) for the relief of the estate of D. Jedediah S. Cronkhite--to the Committee on In-valid Pensions. Fron bergei· and firm of D. Froneberger &: Co., of Knoxville Also, a bill (H. R. 8625) granting an increase of pension to Tenn.-to the Committee on War Claims. · ' Thomas J. Rockwell-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions ... Al o, a bill (R. R. 85Vl) for the relief of the estate of John Also, a bill (H. R. 8626) granting an increase of pen~ ion to Chesney, deceased-to the Committee on War Claims. Andrew P. Andrews~to the Committee on Invalid r ensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8592) for the relief of the estate of Dr. Also, a bill (H. R. 8627) granting an increase of pension to 1.rhomas J. Coward-to the Committee on War Claims. James F. Read-to the Committee on Invalid Pensiom1 fl486 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. APRIL 22,

By Mr. HAWLEY: A bill (H. R. 8628) granting an increase Also, a bill (H. R. 8669) for the relief of the estate of James of pension to Rufus Thompson-to the Committee on Invalid H. Hardesty, deceased-to the Conimittee on War Claims. Pensions. ~ Also, a bill ( H. R. 8670) for the relief of the heirs of Lucinda By Mr. HINSHAW: A bill {H. R. 8629) granting an increase of Muse Thomas-to the Committee on Claims. pension to John G. Tally-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8671) for the relief of Elizabeth Muhleman By Mr. HUBBARD of West Virginia: A bill (H. R. 8630) widow, and the heirs at law of Samuel A . .Muhleman, deceased~ granting an increase of pension to John T. Whetzel-to the to the Committee on Claims. Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, :1- bill (H. R. 8672) for the relief of the personal rep­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8631) granting an increase of pension to resentatives of the late John .M. Doddridge-to the Committee John R. Bungard-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8632) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8673) making an appropriation to reim­ Mary A. Biggs-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. bur.se the Fort Henry Club, of Wheeling, w. ' a., for loss oc­ Also, a bill (II. R. 8633) granting an increase of pension to cas10ned by proceedings by the United States for the condemna­ Willis T. Brannon-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. tion of property of said club and the subsequent abandonment Also, a bill (H. R. 8634) granting :m increase of pension to of such proceedings-to the Committee on Claims. Enoch L. Waugh-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. B~ Mr. HUFF:. A bill (H. R. 8674) granting an increase of Also, a bill (II. R. 8635) granting an increase of pension to p~ns1on to Frederick Ulery;---to the Committee on Invalid Pen­ James H. Thomas-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. sions. Also, a. bill (II. R. 8G36) granting an increase of pension to Calvin C. Shank-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8675) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8637) granting an increase of pension to George W. Beck-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Silas Simms-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8676) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (II. Il. 8638) granting an increase of pension to Samuel D. Aultman-to the Cemmittee on Invalid Pensions. Benjamin F. Sutton-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. ..A!so, a bill (H. R. 8677) granting an increase of pension to Ali;::o, a bill ( H. R. 8639) granting an increase of pension to Josiah E. Lyon-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Adeline Summerville--to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Als~, a bill ~B:· R. 8678) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill ( H. R. 8640) granting an increase of pension to Jeremiah E. Wilhams-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. l\fary E. Pugh-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8679) granting a pension to Grace Olive Also, a bill (H. R. 8641) granting an increase of pension to Jones-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Hugh Neeper-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8680) granting a pension to Aroline Jack­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8642) granting an increase of pension to to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Caleb Moore-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8681) to correct the military record of Also, a bill (H. R. 8643) granting an increase of pension to Henry L. Keaggy-to the Committee on Military Affairs. Margaret E. Marple--to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By Mr. HULL of Iowa : A bill ( H. R. 8682) granting an in­ Also, a bill ( H. R. 8644) granting an increase of pension to crease of pension to George W. Banickman-to the Committee Josiah l\fonroe--to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. on Invalid Pensions. · Also, a bill (H. R. 8645) granting an increase of pension to By Mr. HULL of Tennessee: A bill (H. R. 8683) gra.Ilting an Mahala C. Lydick-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. increase of pension to Louis Hebert-to the Committee on In­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8646) granting an increase of pension to valid Pensions. D. B. Johnson-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8684) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8647) granting an increase of pension to John B. Peters-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Mary E. Huey-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8685) granting a pension to H. R. Lett-to Also, a bill (H. R. 8648) granting an increase of pension to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Hugh A. Hawkins-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8686) granting a pension to Andrew J. Also, a bill (II. R. 8649) granting an increase of pension to Smith-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. William R. IIuffman-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8687) granting a pension to J. K. Wright­ Also, a bill ( H. R. 8650) granting an increase of pension to to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Samuel H. Gebhart-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8688) granting a pension to George A. Also, a bill (H. R. 8651) granting an increase of pension to Womack-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Thomas L. Ford-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8689) granting a pension to George Ste­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8652) granting an increase of pension to phens, sr.-to the Committee ·on Invalid Pensions. Benjamin F. Dunlap-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8690) granting a pension to Amos Also, a bill (H. R. 8653) granting an increase of pension to Vaughan-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Wilford Drummond-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8691) granting a pension to Jackson w. Also, a bill (H. R. 8654) granting an increase of pension to Evans-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. George Crider-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8692) granting a pension to John S. Also, a bill (H. R. 8655) granting an increase of pension to Draper-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. William E. Cornwell-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. ·Also, a bill ( H. R. 8693) granting a pension to William Fid­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8656) granting an increase of pension to ler-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Duncan Cunningham-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8694) to remove the charge of desertion Also, a bill (H. R. 8657) granting an increase of pension to standing against John Downs-to the Committee on Military James A. Chambers-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 8658) granting a pension to John W. Van­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8695) to remove the charge of desertion dine-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. standing against James Wilkey-to the Committee on Military Also, a bill (H. R. 8659) granting a pension to Julia A. Affairs. . Smalley-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8696) to remove the charge of desertion Also, a bill (H. R. 8660) granting a pension to Amanda C. standing against J. T. Bandy-to the Committee on Military Swiger-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 8661) granting a pension to Eliza Peel­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8697) to carry into effect the findings of the to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Court of Claims in the matter of the claim of the heirs of Josiah Also, a bill (H. R. 8662) granting a pension to Sarah J. Anthony, deceased--;-to the Committee on War Claims. Pugh-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8698) granting arrears of peusion to New­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8663) granting a pension to Edgar D. Mus­ ton Moore-to the Committee on In"Valid Penstons. grave-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8699) authorizing the Secretary of War Also, a bill (H. R. 8664) granting a pension to Margaret to recognize William Mitchell, deceased, as having been a mem­ .Miner-to the Committee on· Invalid Pensions. ber of Company C, First Regiment Tennessee Volunteer Also, a bill (H. R. 8665) for the relief of J. H. Willis-to the Mounted Infantry, civil war-to the Commlttee on Military Committee on War Claims. Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 8666) for the relief of W. D. Catlett-to By Ur. JOYCE: A bill (H. R. 8700) granting an increase of the Committee on Claims. pension to William W. Sparks-to the Committee on Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 667) for the relief of Lamie Dean and Also, a bill (H. ·R. 8701) granting an increase of pension. to James Dean-to the Committee on Claims. William Martin-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · Also, a bill (H. R. 8668) for the relief of J. Walter Duncan­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8702) granting an increase of pension to to the Committee on the Post-Office and Post-Roads. George B. Erven-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · 1909. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· HOUSE. fl487

Als-0, a bill {R R. 8703) granting an incren.Be of penslori. to Also, a bill {H. R. 8741) granting an increase of pension to Joseph Flanders-to the. Committee on Invalid Pensions. Joseph Lynn-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8704) granting a pension to David E. Also, a bill (H. R. 8742) granting an increase of pension to Tipple-to the Committee on Pensions. William H. Shields-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By Mr. KEIFER: A bill (H. R. 8705) granting an increase Also, a bill (H. R. 8743) granting a pension to Augusta M. of pension to Hiram Cook-to the Committee on Invalid Pen­ Kelley-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. sions. By Mr. MURDOCK: A bill (H. R. 8744) granting an increase Also, a bill (H. Il. 8706) granting an increase of pension to of pension to Sa.rah McKee-to the Committee on Pensions. Frederick Markgra.ff-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8745) granting an increase of pension to By MI·. KENDALL: A bill (H. R. 8707) granting an increase George Berry-to the Committee on Pensions. of pension to John A. Pinegar-to the Committee on Invalid Also, a bill { H. R. 8746) granting an increase of pension to Pensions. Albert J. Weaver-to the Committee on InT"alid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8708) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8747) granting an increase of pension to Thomas .J. Stafford-to the Committee ·on Invalid Pensions. Wilber F. Smkhorn-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8709) granting -an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8748) granting an increase of pension to Hiram Gosnell-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. William Sproul-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By l\fr. KE1'TNEDY of Ohio-: A bill ("H. R. 8710) granting an By Mr. NEEDHAM: A bill (H. R. 8749) granting an increase increase of pension o Josiah V. Dickinson-to the Committee of pension to Isaiah Clarke Steele-to the Committee on In- on Im·alid Pensions. valid Pensions. · Also, a bill (H. R. 8711) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8750) granting ·an increase of pension to Edward F. Reeves-to the Committee on Pensions. Willis Blackwell-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Al o, a bill (H. R. 8712) granting an increase of pension to Also~ a bill (H. R. 8751) to correct the military record of James A. Morrow-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. John B. Cox-to the Committee on Military Affairs. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8713) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8752) to correct the military record -0f Jefferson Milbourn-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. William C. Looper-to the Committee on '.Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 8714) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8753) for the relief· of William H. Shan­ John Q. Adams-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. non-to the Committee on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 8715) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8754) for the relief of Martin Jeffries-to Thomas W. Quine-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. the Committee on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8716) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill {H. R. 8755) foT the relief of Peter V:an Valer-to George M. Roberts-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. the Committee on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 8717) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill {H. R. 8756) for the relief of .John Wesley Samuel Witter-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Young-to the Committee <>n Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 8718) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill {H. R. 8757) for the relief of the estate of Vicente Margaret B. Kerr-to the -Committee on Invalid Pensions. Gomez, deceased-to the Committee .on War Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 8719) granting an ID.crease of pension to By Mr. PUJO: A l>ill (H. R. 8758) for the relief of Mrs. Da-vid Bash-to the Committee on Invalid Pension10. Octave .Simoneaux, ·Of Alexandria, parish of Rapides, La.-to Also, a bill (H. R. 8720) granting an increase of pension to the Committee on War Claims. John W. Manning-to the Committee -0n Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8759) for the relief of the heirs of Jabez Also, a bill (H. R. 8721) granting an increase· of pension to Tanner, deceased-to the Committee on Claims. W. E. Lowary-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By l\fr. RAINEY: A bill (H. R. 8760) granting an increase of Also, a bill (H. R. 8722) granting an increase of pension to pension to .John C. Langford-to the Committee on Invalid Pen- George W~ Welsh-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. sions. • Also, a bill (H. R. 8723) granting an increase of penSi<>n to Also, a 'bill (H. .R. 8761) granting an increase of pension 'to Jacob Walker-to the Committee -On Invalid Pensions. Edward Leahy-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8724) - granting a pension to Lois A. Also~ a bill {H. R. 8762) granting an increase -0f pension to Bentz-to the Committee on In-valid Pensions. George W. Lucas-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8725) granting a pension to Nellie Gib­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8763) granting .an increase of pension to son-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Alonzo M. Hannaford-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. n.. 8726) granting a pension to Oha.rles By 1\Ir. SIMMONS.: A bill (H. R. 8764) granting an increase Smith-to the Committee nn Invalid Pensions. of pension to Cyrus Carlton-to the Committee on Invalid Pen­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8727) granting a pension to Alban E. sions. Bentley-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8765) granting .an increase of pension to Also, a bill {H. R. 8728) granting a pension to Mary C. Mc­ Volney Mudge-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. caw-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By Mr. STEENERSON: A bill (H. R. 8766) granting an in­ Also, a bill (H. R. 8729) granting a pension to Aaron Roder­ crease of pension to George M. Ross-to the Committee -0n In­ ick-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. valid Pensions. Also, a bill {H. R. 8730) holding and considering William By l\1r. STERL;[NG: A bill (H. R. 8767) granting an increase Mullally to have been honorably discharged-to the Committee of pension to George P. McClellan-to the Committee on In­ on Military Affairs. valid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 8731) holding and· considering James Per­ By l\!r. WILSON of Illinois: A bill. (H. R. 8768) granting an rott, alias James Parrott, to have been honorably discharged­ increase of pension to .Joseph R. Howe--to the Committee on to the Committee on Military.Affairs. Invalid Pensions. By Mr. KINKAID of Nebraska: A bill (H. R. 8732) granting Also, a bill ( H. R. 8769) granting an increase of pension to an increase -0f pension to Joseph Dickson-to the Committee on Hezekiah R. Thomas-to the Committee .on Invalid Pensions. In-valid Pensions. Also, a bill ( H. R. 8770) to remove the charge of desertion Also, a bill ( H. R. 8733) granting · an increase of pension to from the military record of James M~ :Mulcahy-to the Com­ Jonathan Wells-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. mittee on Military Aft'airs. Also, a bill (H. R. 8734) granting an increase of pension to Also, a bill (H. R. 8771) to remove the charge of desertion John Sears-to the Committee -0n Invalid Pensions. from the military record of Timothy Crowley-to the Commit­ By Mr. LAFE.AN: A bill {H. R. 8735) granting an increase tee ori ~Illitary Affairs. of pension to William H. Stallman-to the Committee ·On Invalid Also, a bill (.H. R. 8772) to remove tp.e charge of desertion Pensions. from the mmtary record of J'ohn A. Curry-to the Committee on By Mr. McKINNEY; A bill (RR. 8736) gr.mti,ng an µicrease Military A.ff-airs. of pension to Marion J. Green-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · · - By Mr. MILLER of Kansas: A bill (H. R. 8737) granting an PETITIONS, ETC. increase of pension to Jacob Holden-to the Committee on In'Va­ Under clause 1 of Rule XX.II, petitions and papers were fa.id lid Pensions. on.the Clerk's desk and referred rrs follows : .Also, a bill ( H. R. 8738) granting an increase of pension to· By Mr. ALEXA1'1DER of Missouri: Paper to accompany bill Margaret Hamilton-to the Committee .on Invalid Pensions. for relief of Anderson Creason, Ppillip Gentry, and John G. Also, a bill (H. R. 8739) granting an increase of pension to Hearn-to the Committee -0n Inva,lid ~ensions. Evi T. Nichols-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · By Mr. ANDERSON: Petition of R. E. Sweigard and eerfain Also, a bill (H. R. 8740) granting an increase of penSion to citizens of Car~y, Ohio, favoring a parcels-post law-to the Com­ Emerson 0. Place-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. mittee on the ~ost-Office and Post-Roads. 1488 CONGRESSIONAL -RECORD-SENATE. APRIL 23,

By Mr. ANSBERRY: Petition of W. H. Frank and others, of Also, petition of tanners, glove manufacturers; and citizens of Defiance, Ohio, against a tariff on certain necessities of life-to California, asking for removal of duty on hides-to the Com­ the Committee on Ways and Means. mittee on Ways and Means. Also, petition of David Lichty, of Pandora, Ohio, for removal Also, petitions of citizens of Fresno, Clovis, and other cities of duty on hides-to the Committee on Ways and Means. of the Sixth Congressional District of California, opposing any By Mr. BARTLETT of Georgia: Petition of J. T. Edwards & tax on tea or coffee-to the C-0mmittee on Ways and Means. Son, of Flovilla, Ga., favoring reduction of duty on raw and Also, petition of grain producers of the Pacific coast, asking refined sugars-to the Committee on Ways and Means. for removal of import duty on jute, grain bags, and burlap By 1\Ir. BURLEIGH: Petition of Maine Woolen Manufactur­ cloth-to the Committee on Ways and Means. ers' Association, by Robert Dobson, president, in favor of chang­ Also, petition of board of directors of State .Agricultural So­ ing tariff on woolens-to the Committee on Ways and Means. ciety, of California, opposing any modification of present tariff By Mr. FULLER: Petition of Western Newspaper Union, on wool, hides, or other items affecting the live-stock industry~ against the Government printing return aqdresses on envel­ to the Committee on Ways and Means. opes-to the Committee on Post-Office and Post-Roads. By Mr. MACON: Petition of citizens of Greene County, Ark., Also, petition of Chicago Allied Printing Trades Council, of against passage of the Payne tariff bill-to the Committee on Chicago, Ill., against denying second-class rates on publications Ways and Means. in towns where printed-to the Committee on the Post-Office By Mr. MORGAN of Missouri: Petition of citizens of th~ and Post-Roads. Fifth Congressional District of Missouri. against a tariff on tea Also, petition of American Varnish Company, of Chic:;igo, Ill., and coffee-to the Committee on Ways and Means. for placing China nut oil on free list-to the Comrmttee on Also, petition of Joplin Printing Pressmen and Assistants' Ways and Means. Union, favoring a duty on post cards-to the Committee on Also, petition of New York Silk Conditioning Works,. of New Ways and Means. Y01·k, relative to duty on unscoured wool-to the Committee By Mr. RAINEY: Petition of 46 members of the Jacksonville on Ways and Means. (Ill.) Business Men's Association, against proposed duty on Also, petitions of Fred A. Sluzer, of Paxton; Arthur Buren, gloves and hosiery-to the Committee on Ways and Means. of Lincoln; and D. E. Travis, of Saybrook, all in the State of Also, petition of J. E. Thompson and 10 other citizens of Mur:­ Illinois, against proposed duty on essential oils-to the Commit­ rayville, Ill., favoring r¢uction of duty on raw anff refined tee on Ways and Means. sugars-to the Committee on Ways and Means. Also, petition of La Salle (Ill.) Commercial ~ssociation, By ·Mr. SHEFFIELD: Petition of Woman's Christian T~m­ against proposed increase of duty on gloves and hosiery-to the perance Union of Newport, R. I., against shipment of liquor Committee on Wa-ys and Means. into prohibition territory-to the Committee on Interstate and Also, petition of Charles Prouty, of Spencer, Mass., for repeal Foreign Commerce. of duty on hides-to the Committee on Ways and Means. Also, petition of Rhode Island State Federation of Woman's Also, petition of Henry P. Walker, against placing coal on the Clubs, against increase of duty on gloves and hosiery-to the free list-to the Committee on :Ways and Means. Committee on Ways and Means. Also 1 petition of citizens of Garden Prairie, Ill., favoring re­ moval of casein and lactarene from free list-to the Committee By Mr. WANGER: Petition of 55 residents of Montgomery on Ways and Means. County, Pa., for the removal of casein and lactarene from the free list and imposing a duty of 2i cents per pound on unground Also, petition of Forest City Furniture Company, of Rockford, casein or lactarene and 2! cents per pound on ground casein or Ill., against increase of duty on cast and ­ lactarene-to the Committee on Ways and Means. to the Committee on Ways and Means. Also, protest of Norristown (Pa.) Union, No. 446, Cigar By Mr. GRAHAM of Illinois: Petition of Springfield (IU.) Makers' Union of the United States o! America, against free . Lodge, Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks, fo~ creation of trade to any extent in cigars made in or from tobacco grown in a national park for American elks-to the Committee on the the Philippine Islands-to the Committee on Ways and Means. Public Lands. Also, petition of 9 residents of Morrisville, Bucks County, Pa., Also, petition of Bode, Lee, Taylor & Co., of Springfield, Ill., and vicinity, for a reduction in the duty on raw and refined favoring reduction of duty on raw and refined sugars-to the sugars-to the Committee on Ways and Means. Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. YOUNG of Michigan: Petition of Brotherhood of Also, petition of citizens of Buffalo, Ill., against a duty on tea Locomotive Engineers of Marquette, :Mich., against free iron and coffee-to the Committee on Ways and Means. ore-to the Committee on Ways and Means. By lllr. GRIGGS: Petition of citizens of Second Congressional District of Georgia, against a duty on tea and coffee-to the Also, petition of citizens of Manistique, Mich., against a tariff Committee on Ways and Means. on tea and coffee-to the Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. HAYES: Petition of the Asiatic Exclusion League, of Also, petition of common co.uncils of Marquette and Norway, San Francisco, Cal., favoring an effective exclusion law against Mich., and citizens of fifth ward of Ishpeming, 1\Iich., against all Asiatics, excepting merchants, students, and travelers-to free iron ore-to the Committee on Ways and l\Ienns. the Committee on Foreign Affairs. . Also, petition of citizens of Manistique, Mich., agninst a tariff on tea and coffee-to the Committee on Ways and Mean~. Also petition of citizens of San Francisco, Cal., against duty on tea' and coffee-to the Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. HOWELL of New Jersey: Petition of Farmingdale Grange, No. 157, of Farmingdale, N. J., for removal of the duty SENATE. on sugar-to the Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. HUFF: Papers to accompany bill granting an in­ FRIDAY, April B3, 1909. crease of pension to Jeremiah E. Williams, Samuel D. Aultman, Josiah E. Lyon, and Aroline Jack, invalid daughter of David Prayer by Rev. Ulysses G. B. Pierce, of the city of Washington. H. Jack deceased-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. The Journal of yesterday's proceedings was read and approved. Also, 'papers to accompany bill granting a pension to Grace FLATHEAD INDIAN RESERVATION. Olise Jones, -Frederick Ulery, and George W. Beck-to the Com­ mittee on Invalid Pensions. The VICE-PRESIDENT laid before the Senate a communica­ Also papers to accompany bill to correct the military record tion from the Secretary of the Interior, transmitting, pursuant of He~ry L. Keaggy-to the Committee on Military Affairs. to law, certain information relative to the reservation of all By Mr, KELIHER: Petition o! legislature of Massachusetts, land within the Flathead Indian Reservation, in the State of against imposition of a federal inheritance tax-to the Com­ Montana, valuable chiefiy for power or reservoir sites, etc. mittee on Ways and Means. ( S. Doc. No. 19), which was referred to the Committee on Indian Also memorial of legislature of Massachusetts, relative to Affairs and ordered to be printed. rolls ~f Revolutionary regiments and pensions-to the Com­ FINDINGS OF THE COURT OF CLAIMS. mittee on Pensions. The VICE-PRESIDENT laid before the Senate a communica­ By l'\fr. LOWDEN: Petition of citizens of Dakota, Ill., for a tion from the assistant clerk of the Court of Claims, transmit- duty on casein and lactarene-to the Committee on Ways and ' ting a certified copy of the :findings of fact filed by the court Means. in the cause of Lewis D. Crenshaw, administrator de bonis non By l'\Ir. NEEDHAM: Petition of employers and members of of Lewis D. Crenshaw, deceased, v . United States ( S. Do·c. the Int~mational Photo Engravers' Union of North America, for No. 20), which, with the accompanying paper, was referred to a duty on post cards-to the Committee on Ways and Means. the Committee on Claims and ordered to be printed.