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Overview Dino Ignitions V3.4 Overview of Aftermarket Ignition Systems for the Fiat Dino, Ferrari Dino and Lancia Stratos Stradale V 3.4, 12/2012, www.dinoplex.org, [email protected] Ignition System Trigger Setup Ignition Controller Coil Cost Comment (Inductive Ignitions) (Inductive Points Trigger Optical Pickup Magnetic Pickup Hall Pickup CrankshaftSensor Inductive Ignition Capacitive Ignition Electronic Advance Programmable Advance Current Maximum Coil Requirestach a adapter* Recommended Spark Plug Good Value Advantages Originality install & setup Time to Spark OutputPower Currentand Dwell Control* Two set of Points, three lobe cam. Magneti Marelli Dinoplex C AEC 101 D/DA Magneti Marelli BZR 205A €400-800 (used, Magneti Marelli Dinoplex C capacitive ignition. Powerful CD ignition and Ferrari Dino 206 GT & 246 L Series Points are wired in parallel. Electronic capacitive discharge ignition good condition) relatively easy to repair if it breaks. Requires BZR 205A coil with three X X n/a no ES • • ++ ++ ++ Factory installed, S125 AX-15/BX-15 Rarely offered. terminals, won't work with standard/CDI coils with only two terminals. Two set of Points, three lobe cam. Magneti Marelli AEC 103A Magneti Marelli BAE 200A €300-600 (used, Magneti Marelli AEC103A ignition. Very difficult to repair if it fails as the Ferrari 246 GT Ignition, up to '70/'71 X X Points are wired in parallel. Electronic capacitive discharge ignition n/a good condition) no ES • • ++ ++ ++ internals are potted in epoxy. Factory installed, S125 AX-15/BX-15 Rarely offered. Two set of Points, six lobe cam. Second Magneti Marelli AEC 103A Magneti Marelli BAE 200A, €300-600 (used, Magneti Marelli AEC103A ignition. Very difficult to repair if it fails as the Ferrari 246 GT Ignition, '70/'71 - '74 X X set of points retards ignition and is Electronic capacitive discharge ignition n/a 203A good condition) no ES • • ++ ++ ++ internals are potted in epoxy. Factory installed, S125 C activated via throttle microswitch. Rarely offered. Two set of Points, six lobe cam. Second Magneti Marelli AEC 103A Magneti Marelli BAE 203A €300-600 (used, Magneti Marelli AEC103A ignition. Very difficult to repair if it fails as the Lancia Stratos HF Stradale Ignition X X set of points retards ignition and is Electronic capacitive discharge ignition n/a good condition) no ES • • ++ ++ ++ internals are potted in epoxy. Factory installed, S125 C activated via throttle microswitch. Rarely offered. Standard Marelli S125 Distributor/points Super4 OEM transistor ignition installed in Bosch Red Coil (0221 119 £299.50 AEC103 replica based on the Super4 transistor ignition. Dwell is controlled Superformance AEC103A Replica EVX X X an AEC103A replica enclosure 3.6 A 030) with resistor (ignition, coil and no + • ++ ++ - by the original points setup so you need to take care that your point dwell www.superformance.co.uk EIX resistor) setting is ok. Marelli S125 converted to contactless Pertronix Ignitor MR-161 (S125AX/BX) Pertronix FlameThrower $120 + Coil Distributor conversion to magnetic trigger, easy to install. Magnetic Pickup and trigger sleeve. with a magnetic sensor. Use sleeve MR- 40001 or third party coil Not recommended as full ignition setup for the Dino as the Ignitor I Pertronix Ignitor I EVX X X 1121A3 for a S125C distributor with 6 4.0 A with a minimum of 3.0 yes + • + + - output current is too low and the Ignitor considerably lowers the coil www.pertronix.com EIX cams. Ohm resistance output current when it overheats. Good choice though for triggering a Dinoplex, MSD 6A or other points triggered ignition. Marelli S125AX/BX/C converted to Crane Crane XR700 Ignition Module Crane PS20/PS40 $107 + coil Electronic transistor ignition, distributor conversion to optical trigger. Crane XR700 (700-0231) EVX X X Optical Trigger pickup 4.5 A yes ++ + - + • www.cranecams.com EIX Lumenition Performance Optronic CEK150 Marelli S125 converted to Lumenition Lucas CEM Power Module Lumenition CEC Constant £250 EVX Points to optical pickup conversion, uses Lumention transistor amplifier X X X 5.5 A yes + + - + + www.autocar-electrical.com optical pickup CET150 Energy Coil (Kit, contains all EIX PMA50. Fixed dwell. OS50 optical pickup and rotor (Part# FK425 or FK9) Marelli S125 converted to contactless Pertronix Ignitor 9MR-161A (S125AX/BX) Pertronix FlameThrower II parts)$145 + Coil Distributormust be adapted conversion to Marelli to magnetic distributor, trigger, no ready easy tomade install. conversion kit is Pertronix Ignitor II Magnetic Pickup and trigger sleeve. with a magnetic sensor. Use sleeve MR- coil (45001, 45011) EVX Good choice though for triggering a Dinoplex, MSD 6A or other points X X X 6.0 A yes + • + + + www.pertronix.com 1121A3 for a S125C distributor with 6 EIX triggered ignition. cams. Crane XR3000 (3000-0231) Marelli S125AX/BX/C converted to Crane Crane XR3000 Electronic Ignition Module Crane PS50/PS60 $139 + coil EVX Advanced electronic transistor ignition featuring dwell and current control, X X X 6.8 A yes ++ + - + ++ www.cranecams.com Optical Trigger pickup EIX distributor conversion to optical trigger. Bosch High Performance Transistor Lumenition CET150 pickup Bosch 0 227 100 137 Bosch TCI Coil €280 Bosch high performance ignition setup for converting a defective Dinoplex EVX Ignition (AEC101/103 DIY Conversion) X X X Advanced electronic transistor ignition 7.8 A 0 221 119 334 (for all parts) no ++ + ++ - ++ C or AEC103A to a modern ignition system while keeping the original EIX see www.dinoplex.org for wiring & howto's module appearance. Wiring & howto on www.dinoplex.org Perma-Tune PTFR Ignition Standard Marelli S125 Distributor/points Perma-Tune PTFR Ignition Perma-Tune SC010 Coil $350 + coil CD based ignition system delivering a single, powerful spark. Similar X X n/a no ES + + - + ++ www.perma-tune.com principle as the original AEC101/AEC103. Perma-Tune Dinoplex Conversion Standard Marelli S125 Distributor/points Perma-Tune Ignition (built into AEC 103 Perma-Tune SC010 Coil $1300 + coil Perma-Tune ignition build into existing Dinoplex box for stock appearance. X X n/a no ES - + ++ + ++ www.perma-tune.com box) Price includes conversion of supplied Dinoplex AEC103A unit. MSD 6ADigital (#6201) Standard Marelli S125 Distributor/points MSD 6A #6201 (Digital) MSD Blaster II Coil #8200 $180 Multi spark CD ignition. Same CDI principle as the original Dinoplex. Fits www.msdignition.com X X n/a or #8200 (ignition, coil and no ES + + - + ++ Fiat Dino setups, but enclosure a bit too large to replace a trunk installed coil bracket) AEC103 in Ferrari Dino setups. MSD 6AL-2 Digital, Rev Limiter(#6421) Standard Marelli S125 Distributor/points MSD 6AL-2 #6421 (Digital) MSD Blaster II Coil #8200 $260 Multi spark CD ignition with electronic rev limiter. Same CDI principle as X X n/a no ES + + - + ++ www.msdignition.com or #8200 the original Dinoplex.About same size as AEC103. System is based on a new distributor OEM transistor ignition made by Bosch Red Coil (0221 119 €898 Replacement distributor with hall pickup and electronic advance map, no made by 123ignitions, combined with a 123ignitons.nl, with one preprogrammed 030) with resistor (Kit, contains all mechanical advance to service anymore. Interesting product, although Electronic distributor with coil EVX X X X X sleeve adapter to fit the Dino engine. advance curve 3.5 A parts) yes - ++ - + - relatively expensive compared to a 123ignitions distributor for other six www.dinoparts.de EIX cylinder engines. One fixed timing map included, not user programmable. Weak output. New Distributor using a Bosch cap and BSM Delta Advanced Ignition Module Bosch TCI Coil £1395.00 Replacement distributor with hall pickup and electronic advance map. Black Stallion BSMpdi Siemens hall sensor 0 221 119 334 (Kit, contains all Very effective for more torque and a smoother running engine. No parts) EVX mechanical advance to service anymore. Two advance curves can be www.superformance.co.uk X X X X X 7.8 A yes + ++ - - ++ EIX programmed via a PC and selected from a dashboard switch. Fair price www.blackstallionmotors.com.au considering it comes with a new distributor, coil, a set of spark wires and is fully programmable. Crankshaft Sensor and 60-2 trigger Electromotive XDI configurable Ignition Electromotive DFU, wasted $889 Advanced distributorless ignition controller with MAP sensor, advance is Electromotive XDI wheel, replaces the distributor with a Controller Spark OEM Coilpack (Kit, contains all ++ programmed using knobs on the controller unit. Very interesting price for X X X X X X ? no ES ++ -- -- n/a www.electromotive-inc.com multiple coil pack parts) + the kit and does not require a laptop for setup although less configuration options than other systems. Crankshaft Sensor and 36-1 trigger MegaJolt/E programmable Ignition Ford EDIS6 wasted Spark $400-500 Very advanced system, distributorless ignition controller with MAP or TPS wheel, replaces the distributor with a Controller Coil Pack (includes sensor and programmable control unit. Two advance curves can be Megajolt/E multiple coil pack controller, coil, ++ ++ programmed via PC and selected from the dashboard. Excellent software. X X X X X X 6.0 A no ES -- -- + www.autosportlabs.com sensor and + + Good choice if you want to have absolute control and are not intimidated trigger wheel) to set up your Dino on a rolling road. Supports Lamda, temperature and other sensors. (NGK) * Current control ensures that the coil will not overheat * Ignitions which require a tach adapter to be compatible with the electronic Veglia Tacho Dwell control dynamically adapts the coil current based on the RPM.
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