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If you have issues viewing or accessing this file contact us at NCJRS.gov. " ~ .... , v\uOR.PI~NG AND EXPLO~IN~ BULLETS ~.' I· 1, ,j ~VltL 3:·~ 19.84:, !· HEARl PS'l BEFORE THEi . ~ fEJ·U"iI e>.na; ~ " SUBCOMMITTEE CRIME},,_ " '\ , 1 ON '\ OF THE '~ COMMITTEE ,ON THE JUDICIARY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES NINETY-SEVENTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION ON _)H.R. 2280, H.R. 5392, AND H.R. 5437 0 ~ ARMOR-PIERCING AND EXPLODING BULLETS MARCH 30 AND MAY 12, 1982 () " Serial No. 123 " Q \ \ ~\ '< i" o ' I 'I tted lor the use of the Committee on the Judiciary \, ..,. 1 U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE \ WASHINGTON: 1983 JI ~ i 1 I I CONTENTS HEARINGS HELD Page March 30, 1982 .................................... " ................................... ;.... c: .................................. 1 1 May 12) .1982 ••••••••• ;:••••••••••••••• " •••••••• , ••••••••••••••••••••••••• ,., •• " .............. ~~••••••••••••••••••• •••••••••••••• 129 COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY TEXT OF BILI.8 PETER W. RODINO, JR., New Jersey, Chairman JACK BROOKS, Texas ROBERT McCLORY, miriois H.R. 2280 ... '................... ·........................................... ,.......... ,.......... "............. ,......... !' ••••••••••••••• 3 ROBERT W. KASTENMEIER, Wisconsin TOM RAILSBACK, minois H.R. 5392 ................................................................ ~ ............. ~ .................... ,............... ~" ...... 7 DON EDWARDS, California HAMILTON FISH, JR., New York H.R. 5437 .... ~ ........... ,..................................... ....................... t ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••· ••• , ••••••••••••••• 11 JOHN CONYERS, JR., Michigan M. CALDWELL BUTLER Virginia JOHN F. SEIBERLING, Ohio CARLOS J. MOORHEAD: California WITNESSES ROMANO L. MAZZOLI, KEl~tucky HENRY J. HYDE, Illinois Biaggi, Hon. Mario, a U.S Representative from the State of New York ............ .. 14 WILLIAM J. HUGHES, New Jersey THOMAS N. KINDNESS, Ohio Prepared statement ................................................................................................ 38 SAM B. HALL, JR., Texas HAROLD S. SAWYER, Michigan Caruso, Phil, president, Patrolmen's Benevolent Association of the city of MIKE SYNAR, Oklahoma DAN LUNGREN, California ! ••• ••••.••••• ' .......................................... 62 PATRICIA SCHROEDER, Colorado F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, JR., New YOrk .....................................~ ..... '... ""... ' .................. ~ Prepared statement ............. .~~~~'::::.'~.~.:~.~.L'.~: .. '~.f~'::~:.:::~: ..... ::.~: .. :>.. ~ ..~~: ....~; ......~ ........... 66 BILLY LEE EVANS, Georgia Wisconsin Copel!lnd, Cary H., attorn~y,De: ,~.rtmentgflustice ................................... :; .......... .. 132 DAN GLICKMAN, Kansas BILL McCOLLUM, Florida Da~ck, Norman, executIve dtr,eQtor, I~nen3 ftollJion of Chiefs of HAROLD WASHINGTON"Illinois "I E. CLAY SHAW, JR., Florida BARNEY FRANK, Massachusetts . Pohce ......................................... j' ...................................................~ ................................. 149 Prepared statement ............ ~ ...................................................................... ~............ 151 GEO. W. CROCKETT, JR., Michigan Davis, Richard C., president, Second Chance Body Armor, Inc ................ :........... .. 114 ALAN A. PARKER, General CO!i;Tlsel "" 117 GARNER J. CLINE, Staff Director .. .. .. .. e...... ·.. · Giut;:tR~~~tap::Vr,~~~~i'~Kl' Jh M . ~, i·Att~;~~·y iWt~~;J·,'iJ~·p·mR«·e·-;;t'~f'J ~·s·ti·::c....... .. 132 FRANKLIN G. POLK, Associate Counsel em, 0 n ., preSIdent, North American Ordnance Corp .................... :........... .. 68 Prepared statement ............ ~ ......................................................................: ............ 74 Kopsch, Dr. Paul, president, KTW; IJlf G.Q.U'.,.S.i.,.. ... O.I\T.S .................... · 66 SUBCOMMITTEE ON CRIME Prepared statement ........... ~ ...................................................... ~.:'Il.. .. .................... 68 Murphy, Edward, iegislative c6unsel, International Brotherhood of Police Of- WILLIAM J. HUGHES, New Jersey, Chairman ficers .......................... ,.............. ~ .................................................... ,.............................. 158 ROBERT W. KASTENMEIER, Wisconsin HAROLD S. SAWYER, Michigan Prepared state:tnent ................................................................................................ 159 JOHN CONYERS, JR.; Michigan HAMILTON FISH, JR., New York Powis, Robert, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Enforcement, Department of DAN GLICKMAN, Kansas THOMAS N. KINDNESS, Ohio the Treasury .... ,................. "' ........ ~ .................................•............................................... 48 Prepared statement ............................................................................................... .. 51 HAYDEN W."GREGORY, Counsel Shields , Nelson T., "Pete" ch rurman,. H and gun Con t ro,I I nc ................................. c:', .. 153 ERIC E. STERLING, Assistant Counsel Prepared statement ................................................................................................. " DEBORAH K. OWEN, Associate Counsel 155 ADDITIONAL MATERIAL (II) Ban of 'reflon-Coated Bullets, resolution pertaining to the ..................................... 47 Beard, Michael K,president, National Coalition To Ban Handguns, prepared statement ................. ,..................................................................................................... 125 Biaggi announces an end to "Teflon-Coated" Bullets (article) ................................ 85 U.S. Department of Justice Biaggi, Hon. Mario, a U.S. Representative from the State of New York, letter National Institute of Justice dated March 18, 1982, to John M. Klein.................................................................. 81 This document has been reproduced exactly as received from the Biaggi Works To Protect Police From Killer Bullets (excerpt from Congres- person or organization originating it. Points of view or opinions stated sional Record, July 281 1982)...................................................................................... 89 in this document are those of the authors and do not necessarily., Bill Aims at Armor-Piercing Bullets (article), Los Angeles Times, dated Janu- represent the official position or policies of the National Institute of ary 25. 1982 ................................................................................................................... 79 Billiter, Bill, Times staff writer, Los Angeles Times, letter dated November Justice. 25, 1981, to John M. Klein.......................................................................................... 79 Permission to reproduce this cgjilyI'JsQted material has been (III) granted by Public Dcrrlain/U. S. House of I II '\ l' \ Representatives , " . f I to the National Criminal Justice Reference Service (NCJRS). /' .~ .;:/ o Further reproduction outside of the NCJRS system requirEis'pi;rmts~ L~'~ __________~ __________________~si~on~of~t~he~~~~·~h~t~o~w~n~er.~. ____----~----------------------~--.~--- '" .'- Boyle, Stephen T., Director, Office of Congressional Liaison, Office of Justice Assistance, Research, and Statistics, Department of Justice, letter dated Page February 23, 198Z, to Hon. Mario Biaggi................................................................. 89 Bullet Threats to Protective Body Armor (report), November 27, 1979 and updated March 25, 1982, by William C. Boesman, specialist in science and technology, Science Policy Research Division, Congressional Research Serv- ice, Library of Congress ............................................................................................. 21 Buracker, Col. Carroll D., chairman, police chiefs steering committee, Metro politan Washington Council of Governments, letter dated May 5, 1982, to ARMOR-PIERCING AND EXPLODING BULLETS Hon. William J. Hughes ............................................................................................ 126 Conyers, Hon. John, Jr., a U.S. Representative from the State of Michigan, letter dated June 24, 1982, to Hon. William J. Hur,hes ...... ,................................ 127 Ex-Hero Cop Proposes a Ban on "Cop Killer Bullets' (article) .............................. 85 Gates, Daryl F., chief of police, Los Angeles Police Department, letter dated TUESDAY, MARCH 30, 1982 December 9, 1981, to G. R. Dickerson, Director, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms ................................................................................................................ 124 I HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, Guarini, Hon. Frank J., a U.S. Representative from the State of New Jersey, SUBCOMMITTEE ON CRIME prepared statement ..................................................................................................... 125 I Killed Trooper, Man Says (article), Mason, Mich ................................................. .. 107 OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, i Klein, John M., president, North American Ordnance Corp.: ; f lfashington, D.C. Letter dated February 2, 1982, to Florence T. Snyder, California Depart- (I The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 1:15 p.m. in room ment of Justice .................................................................................................... .. 96 j Letter dated February 15, 1982, to all law enforcement personnel... ........... .. 77 I 2237 Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Willliam J. Hughes Knox, Neal, executive director, National Rifle