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Thursday Volume 613 21 July 2016 No. 30 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Thursday 21 July 2016 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2016 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 947 21 JULY 2016 948 13. Peter Grant (Glenrothes) (SNP): What discussions House of Commons his Department has had with the devolved Administrations on the timescale for invoking article 50 of the treaty on Thursday 21 July 2016 European Union. [906013] The Attorney General (Jeremy Wright): The hon. The House met at half-past Nine o’clock Gentleman will know that the Prime Minister has visited Scotland and Wales already and has made it clear that PRAYERS she wants to achieve the best possible deal for the whole of the United Kingdom on leaving the European Union. She has also made it clear that article 50 of the treaty on [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] European Union will not be triggered before the end of the year. BUSINESS BEFORE QUESTIONS Martyn Day: The Prime Minister has stated that Brexit means Brexit, and the First Minister of Scotland QUEEN’S SPEECH (ANSWER TO ADDRESS) has stated that, for us, remain means remain. Does the The VICE-CHAMBERLAIN OF THE HOUSEHOLD reported right hon. and learned Gentleman agree that the Scottish to the House, That Her Majesty, having been attended people have spoken and that therefore their sovereignty with its Address of 26th May, was pleased to receive the should be respected? same very graciously and give the following Answer: I have received with great satisfaction the dutiful and The Attorney General: The people of the United loyal expression of your thanks for the speech with which Kingdom have spoken and their sovereignty must be I opened the present Session of Parliament respected. The people of the United Kingdom have made their decision on whether to leave the European ELECTORAL COMMISSION (ANSWER TO ADDRESS) Union, and we will respect it. The VICE-CHAMBERLAIN OF THE HOUSEHOLD reported to the House, That the Address of 14th June, praying Alison Thewliss: The Prime Minister has indicated that Her Majesty will reappoint Alasdair Morgan as an that she will not trigger article 50 in the UK until there Electoral Commissioner with effect from 1st October is a UK approach to Brexit. Does the right hon. and 2016 for the period ending on 30th September 2020, learned Gentleman agree that a legislative consent motion was presented to Her Majesty, who was graciously is required before the Government have the legal authority pleased to comply with the request. to trigger article 50? INDEPENDENT PARLIAMENTARY STANDARDS The Attorney General: It is perfectly right, as the Prime AUTHORITY (ANSWER TO ADDRESS) Minister has made clear, that all parts of the United The VICE-CHAMBERLAIN OF THE HOUSEHOLD reported Kingdom, including the Governments of the devolved to the House, That the Address of 13th July, praying Administrations, should be able to participate in the that Her Majesty will reappoint Jenny Willott to the process of developing the United Kingdom’s approach office of ordinary member of the Independent to these negotiations. That does not mean that any of Parliamentary Standards Authority with effect from the parts of the United Kingdom has a veto over this 7th August 2016 for the period ending 31st December process: so, consultation most certainly, but veto I am 2020, was presented to Her Majesty, who was graciously afraid not. pleased to comply with the request. Peter Grant: At a time when Brexit is already causing more than enough confusion, the Prime Minister is Oral Answers to Questions saying that article 50 will definitely not be triggered before the end of the year, but the Brexit Minister has said that it definitely will be. Will the Attorney General clarify for us who is correct in articulating present ATTORNEY GENERAL Government policy? The Attorney General: No, I do not think there is any The Attorney General was asked— confusion. We must ensure that there is clarity about Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union the United Kingdom’sposition going into the negotiations, and that we have done that work before we begin them. 1. Martyn Day (Linlithgow and East Falkirk) (SNP): As the hon. Gentleman knows, it is for the United What discussions his Department has had with the Kingdom Government to determine the point at which devolved Administrations on the timescale for invoking article 50 is triggered. We should do so when we are article 50 of the treaty on European Union. [905999] ready. 4. Alison Thewliss (Glasgow Central) (SNP): What Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con): Will the Attorney discussions his Department has had with the devolved General tell my constituents in Kettering what invoking Administrations on the timescale for invoking article 50 article 50 means? What is article 50? Where is it kept? Is of the Treaty on European Union. [906003] it in a secret drawer in the Prime Minister’s office to 949 Oral Answers 21 JULY 2016 Oral Answers 950 which only the Attorney General has the key? Is it a that membership will persist, but it is open to the letter that the Prime Minister signs, or is it the Queen member states to negotiate different arrangements if who signs it? How will article 50 be invoked? they think it is appropriate to do so, and we will see, once article 50 is triggered, exactly how those negotiations The Attorney General: I can assist my hon. Friend play out. The legal position, as I say, is that the rights and his constituents to this extent. Article 50 is article 50 and responsibilities of member states, and of course of of the treaty on European Union and therefore copies citizens of those member states, will persist for as long of it are kept in all sorts of places. I am not sure whether as we are members of the European Union. there is one in my desk, but what it says is: “A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the Female Genital Mutilation European Council of its intention.” As I have said, it will be for the UK Government to do 2. Lilian Greenwood (Nottingham South) (Lab): What that at a time of their choosing. steps the Government is taking to increase the number of prosecutions for female genital mutilation. [906000] Mr David Nuttall (Bury North) (Con): I am quite happy with the Government consulting the devolved 5. Vicky Foxcroft (Lewisham, Deptford) (Lab): What Administrations, but what concerns me is that we do steps the Government is taking to increase the number not finish up being held to ransom by the Scottish of prosecutions for female genital mutilation. [906004] nationalists. Whatever the Government try to do, they will never be able to satisfy the Scottish nationalists. 7. Andrew Gwynne (Denton and Reddish) (Lab): What Can the Attorney General please reassure me and my steps the Government is taking to increase the number constituents, who voted overwhelmingly to leave the of prosecutions for female genital mutilation. [906006] European Union, that their wishes will not be frustrated by the Scottish National party? The Solicitor General (Robert Buckland): The Government significantly strengthened the law via The Attorney General: The Prime Minister has been amendments to the Serious Crime Act 2015 to improve very clear that the United Kingdom will leave the protection of victims through lifelong anonymity and European Union, and that means all of the United to break down barriers to prosecution. The introduction Kingdom, but, as I said earlier, it is very important that of a mandatory reporting duty for front-line professionals in the process of exiting the European Union all parts to identify FGM cases of girls under 18 further improves of the United Kingdom have an opportunity to contribute opportunities for safeguarding and prosecution. to the negotiations in which we will engage. That is the spirit in which the UK Government will approach this Lilian Greenwood: At the age of 11, Valentine Nkoyo process. was forced to go through female genital mutilation. Nineteen years later she set up the Mojatu Foundation, Jim Shannon (Strangford) (DUP): We have to be a social enterprise in my constituency, to use her own mindful that the EU referendum was UK-wide, so all experience to raise awareness of FGM, help protect parts of the United Kingdom were involved. I hope the children at risk in the UK and support survivors. Mojatu’s Prime Minister will come to Northern Ireland; perhaps current project aims to create a network of media-trained the Minister can confirm that. It is important to keep community champions to help tackle the issues affecting the grants and assistance that Northern Ireland receives. women and girls who are at risk or living with the consequences of FGM, to increase self-reporting. What The Attorney General: Indeed. I understand the hon. engagement has the Solicitor General had with community Gentleman’s point. I am sure the Prime Minister will organisations such as Mojatu to address the low level of wish to visit Northern Ireland very shortly, and she and prosecutions for FGM? we have clearly in mind the particular difficulties that will apply to the process in Northern Ireland because of The Solicitor General: I pay tribute to the work of the land border with the Republic of Ireland. The hon. that community organisation and many others in the Gentleman will have been present yesterday when my network who are fighting the scourge of FGM. The right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Northern hon.