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VCD No. 3205, Dated 03.04.2020, Clarification of Morning class 16.01.1968 The morning class dated 16th January, 1968 was going on. On Tuesday, the topic we were discussing at the end of page 9, in the fifth line from below was about the vaanprastha stage. When someone reaches the vaanprastha stage meaning the age of 60 years, they make a . Why do they need a guru later? Why don’t they need a guru in their youth? It is because the tendency of [being] Duryodhan-Dushashan is high [at that time]. After 60 years, the indriyaan start becoming a little weak. They feel troubled; the mind becomes powerful [and] the indriyaan become weak. They search for a path out of trouble, [they say:] ‘we want a guru’. So, I come and meet you in the form of Sadguru and I meet you in a hidden form. It isn’t about those . They can’t tell you the true path. They can’t tell you the path to become free from the bondage of the indriyaan at all. You have made many of those gurus but it is famous among the Sikhs: One Sadguru Akaalmurt, the Incorporeal One. And I am that Sadguru. ‘I’ doesn’t mean a bodily being whose intellect remains entangled in the body, in the indriyaan of the body to seek pleasure. No. I, the Supreme am the only Soul who doesn’t have a body, who doesn’t have indriyaan. Just as the soul is incorporeal, the Father of the is also incorporeal. But how will that Incorporeal One come and bring about sadgati? First, the sadgati of the mind and intellect is needed; the sadgati of the gyaanendriyaan as well as the karmendriyaan is needed. I have to enter some permanent chariot in order to give that sadgati. It was said ‘permanent’ because I enter the permanent chariot of that very soul every kalpa, at the end of all the four ages. His picture is shown in the Gita. Whose picture? Arjun. The very meaning of Arjun is the one who earned knowledge from the Inexhaustible Storehouse of Knowledge. Why did he earn it? To make a good fortune for many births. So, I become the Sadguru after entering that permanent chariot. All the others will be said to be gurus not Sat guru. Sat means true. Why? It is because all the other bodily religious gurus, although they are called the great fathers, they all are those who make [us] impure. They themselves become impure as well as make others impure; they also make their followers impure. They all are the gurus of the path of , those who teach blind . I alone am the guru of the path of knowledge. Come on, count [them]. Now look, there are so many Prajapita . They have been named Prajapati (the husband of the subjects) in the scriptures. Arey, they don’t even know this: is the father first or is the husband [first]? Who is first? (Student replies.) Yes, first he should become the father, the one who gives birth, the father who gives the inheritance. So, they give the name Prajapita, Prajapati. Now, how many children named ‘Prajapati’ in the scriptures will there be? And how many [subjects] do they sustain, those who become their followers? And those who become their followers, especially their followers, those who follow them, do they have attachment for them or not? Those Prajapatis… The religious father of every is the husband of the subjects (praja ka pati), the father of the subjects (praja ka pita), isn’t he? The protector, the husband (pati) of his subjects. Husband means what? He is the protector, isn’t he? So look, they have so much attachment for their creation! So, this is called impure attachment. Why? It is because they consider themselves as well as others to be a body. And this is the True Sadguru. He doesn’t have attachment for anyone at all. He certainly comes to make [us] nashtomoha equal to Himself. Now, [we] will certainly become that number wise. This one will be said to have pure attachment. What does pure attachment mean? Is it the attachment that is beneficial or the attachment that is harmful? Beneficial attachment.

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10th page of the morning class dated 16th January 1968, Tuesday. So now, look, this one is present, isn’t he? Who is present? Look at this soul. Which soul? Arey children, study this soul nicely. Then you will also become like him. Make an effort to recognize him. ‘To recognize’ whom? The soul bearing the permanent chariot whom I enter at the end of the Iron Age. He keeps teaching, doesn’t he? How many [students] does he teach now? Does he teach a few [students], many [students] or the five-seven billion [souls]? First, He certainly [teaches] a few [students]. Look, how big an unlimited teacher he has become! Who? (Student replies.) Many have been given the name Prajapati or Prajapita. But [here] it is about which Prajapati or Prajapita? Is it about the number one, the middle one or the last one? The number one. So, the rest of the Prajapatis are number wise, aren’t they? Are they the limited teachers or the unlimited teachers? They will be called the limited teachers. How big an unlimited teacher is this one? He has become the teacher of all the 5-7 billion human beings, all the human souls who play their role on this stage like world. He has become? Has he become [that] now? Why was it said, ‘he has become’? Arey, the topic of the previous kalpa was mentioned. So look, both of them are double teachers. Which two? The Supreme Soul who never has impure attachment for anyone. And the other is the one who also has impure attachment [for others] while playing a part in this world. But when I come, it is My promise, I make you children equal to Myself number wise. So, will I make [him] 100% incorporeal, vice less, ego less [and] nashtomoha like Myself or not? I do make [him that]. So, when this one becomes equal to Him, it will be said that both of them are double [teachers]. It means are both the bodily beings double [teachers] or are both the souls double teachers? Both the souls are double teachers. So look, they went to the unlimited from the limited. All of you too… what? Who ‘all’? All the children who are sitting in front of Baba will be called ‘you’, won’t they? There is one Unlimited Father. Is He one or two? Two? One? If we call him the limited father, he is the father of the human beings. And as regards the unlimited fathers, they are two; one is the Father of the souls and the other is the father of the corporeal human beings. Will the Incorporeal One be said to be one [soul]? (Student replies.) Yes. When both the souls work in the same body, what will that bodily being be called? The Unlimited Father is only one personality, isn’t He? So now, you have come to know: he has to take all the children just towards mukti. He certainly has to take them. Who has to take them? Who has to take them? Arey? The Unlimited Father who is in the form of a personality (vyaktitva), not avyakt. Vyakt means that which can be seen through the eyes [and] avyakt means that which can’t be seen through the eyes. So, the soul isn’t visible through the eyes. The Father of the souls isn’t visible through the eyes either. So, then…. That Father of the souls, the Supreme Soul enters the corporeal bodily being, the permanent chariot; then He will be called the Father with an unlimited personality, the Unlimited Teacher, the Unlimited Sadguru. So, He certainly has to take all the children to mukti. Then, mukti as well as jiivanmukti is needed. It is because those who attain mukti, do they attain jiivanmukti, can they attain it or not? (Student replies.) How many? How many can attain jiivanmukti? 450 thousand? Achaa? When the souls of Abraham, Buddha, Christ come on this stage like world or their followers, all the souls who come on this stage like world, the five-seven billion souls come, don’t they? Do they experience happiness being alive in their first birth or not? So, are they just 450 thousand [souls]? How many are they? It was said, those who go to [the stage of] mukti certainly come in [the stage of] jiivanmukti as well, though they don’t enter their own body. It is because they can’t have their own body at all. The soul came pure from the Pure World. So, is there any question of them having their own body? There isn’t at all. So, they enter others’ body (paraya sharir). So, what will be said? It will be said they [attained] only mukti while being alive, won’t it? So, you come first, the others come later. It means the one who

2 Website: www.pbks.info Email: [email protected] YouTube: Adhyatmik Vidyalaya or AIVV Vcd 3205 attains jiivanmukti first, will he live long on this stage like world or will he live short? If he has more births, he will live long. The others come later. So, every soul, when it takes on life, attains happiness first of all. Later, they certainly have to experience sorrow. Why? Why does every soul have to experience [sorrow]? It is because all the souls on this stage like world that are born in the form of human beings, that think and churn… human beings have a mind, don’t they? Yes. So everyone certainly has happiness in their first birth. In the early births… if they are souls, they [experience happiness] for many births. If they are born in the demonic world itself, for how many births [do they experience] happiness at the least? They definitely receive happiness for one birth. Later, they certainly have to experience sorrow. Why do they have to experience it? All the bhogi souls - when they come behind the bodily religious gurus - experience pleasure through the corrupt indriyaan because of having more body . It is because all the religious fathers who came later on this stage like world… leave the first one, leave the second one too, the Suryavanshi and the Chandravanshi. All the other religious fathers, whether they belong to the Islam dynasty, the Buddhist dynasty, the Christian dynasty or the cooperative religious fathers who come behind them, everyone has to experience sorrow. Why? Why do they have to? It is because everyone is coloured by the company. Yes, the deity souls are coloured by the company of the gyaanendriyaan. The gyaanendriyaan will still be said to have knowledge. What knowledge do the have? ‘I, the soul am a point of light.’ They definitely have the basic knowledge, don’t they? Yes. So, they experience happiness for many births. As long as they experience happiness through the gyaanendriyaan, they remain happy. Then, when they come in the kingdom of many religious fathers, it will be called the kingdom of Ravan, the kingdom of those with many heads, [the kingdom of] the religious fathers who give various opinions. Then, they certainly have to experience sorrow later. So, it isn’t about one day. However long someone’s life is on this stage like world, no matter what their life span is, it will be said that every soul experiences happiness for at least half [the time] and sorrow [for the other] half [of the time]. The soul who descends in the last birth at the end of the Iron Age, who has one – two births will also experience happiness for half [of the time] and sorrow [for the other] half. So, how wonderfully this drama is made! [Baba] will ask: Brother, tell me, is Ravan ever born? And whom should I tell it to? Tell me. Someone said, Dvapar (the Copper Age). Yes. It has been named Dvapar; it certainly means do pur (two places). It isn’t about one place. It means [there are] two kings, two religious fathers. Suppose Abraham came, so there was the rule of how many [there]? There was the rule of two religions, wasn’t there? One, even those of the Ancient Deity Religion degraded. They came in the colour of the company of the bodily religious fathers who just experience the pleasure of the karmendriyaan. They don’t believe in the pleasure of the gyaanendriyaan at all; [they don’t accept] that the world grows through the gyaanendriyaan as well, that pleasure is obtained [through them]. They don’t accept it. So, there were two places, two opinions, weren’t there? Yes. The kingdom of Ravan started from the beginning of the Copper Age. The rule of one head (opinion) or two heads? Were there two kings or one king in the world? What will be said? There were two kings. As for the rest, they don’t have a [fixed] day and date [of arrival] (tiithi-taariik). Whose? Does “unki” mean of one or are there many? Unki (their). What will be said? (Student replies.) Yes. Abraham came; there was already one religion before [his arrival]: the No.1 religion of Allaah Avvaldiin, the Deity Religion. Although, the souls of the Deity Religion convert, not everyone converts. There are some very elevated Suryavanshi souls… Does the Sun bow in front of anyone? When the Sun doesn’t bow, the Suryavanshi children don’t bow

3 Website: www.pbks.info Email: [email protected] YouTube: Adhyatmik Vidyalaya or AIVV Vcd 3205 either. Sar kataa sakte hai lekin sar jhuka sakte nahi1. So look, there isn’t any [fixed] day and date of [arrival] of those religious fathers who spread dualism from the Copper Age. As for the day and date, those who are born from a womb have a [fixed] day and date [of birth]. 'I’m certainly not born through a womb.' Who? The Supreme Soul. So, these ones (inki) certainly don’t have a [fixed] day and date [of birth]. Why was it said “Inki”? Arey, is it one, two, four or many? Is “inki” said for one or for many? So, who is Inki? There isn’t a [fixed] day and date [of birth] of these ones (inki). Whose day and date [of birth] isn’t [fixed]? There isn’t a [fixed] day and date of the One? Accha? And the one whom He enters and makes equal to Himself, is there any [fixed] day and date of his [to indicate] on which day he became equal to Him? That One is Incorporeal, Vice less, Egoless, Ajanma2, Agarbha, the One who isn’t born through the womb. [And the one whom He enters] does he become equal to the Supreme Soul Father after being born through the womb? He doesn’t become that, does he? So it was said, there are at least two [souls]. Who? One is the soul of the permanent chariot; call him Arjun, Aadam, Adam, call him Adidev. They don’t have [a fixed] day and date [of birth]. Who? There isn’t [a fixed] date [of birth] of both, and the permanent chariot whom He enters, whom we call Shankar Mahadev. There isn’t [a fixed] date [of birth] of any of them. Sweet children, sweet, sweeter, sweetest; the children will certainly be called that. On the day of Shivjayanti… Did you come to know which Shivjayanti it is? Is what the Brahmakumaris celebrate Shivjayanti? Is it? Is it or not? Then? Then which Shivjayanti is it? There is the yaadgaar in the path of bhakti too. They will celebrate Shivraatri (the night of Shiva), Mahashivraatri (the great night of Shiva). They certainly don’t call it Shivjayanti. This is the word used by the Brahmakumaris. Shiva was born. Brother, which day was He born? Brother, eighteen years have passed, twenty years have passed, thirty four years have passed, it will be said, seventy years have passed. Do they say that or not? Do they say like this or not: ‘it is the 72th Shivjayanti’? So, you should ask them: ‘At least, tell us that day’. Then, will they be able to answer? ‘At least tell us about that moment.’ Will they answer? They won’t be able to. So, it was said: You are the sweet, sweeter, sweetest children. The children will definitely be called that. Now, who become the sweetest? Those who attain this position of becoming the sweetest. The Father challenges the children, doesn’t He? ‘Children, make such purushaarth’, what kind of purushaarth? Make the purushaarth of becoming complete with 14 celestial degrees of the Silver Age or make the purushaarth of becoming complete with 14 to 8 celestial degrees or make the purushaarth of becoming complete with 16 celestial degrees? What kind of purushaarth should you make? Make the purushaarth of becoming kalaatiit! When the Sun isn’t bound in celestial degrees, will the children of the Sun be bound in celestial degrees? They can’t be bound in the celestial degrees. Those who enjoy the pleasure of the indriyaan are bound in the celestial degrees. If they enjoy the pleasure of the karmendriyaan, they will be bound in less than eight celestial degrees. If they enjoy the pleasure of the gyaanendriyaan, they will enjoy the pleasure of eight celestial degrees at the least. There are number wise even among them. Some enjoy happiness complete with 16 celestial degrees. Do they or not? Yes. So, Baba says, will you make purushaarth of becoming complete with 16 celestial degrees? You won’t do that, you don’t like that. What will you do? There shouldn’t be any name and trace of the remembrance of the body in the mind and intellect. Or should there be? Yes. Even the name and trace of the body should be destroyed. Now, there isn’t any difficulty in this purushaarth. Is there any difficulty? Is there? Is there any difficulty? What is the difficulty? Arey, who are you? (Student replies.) If you are a

1 We can have our head cut but can’t bow it 2 The one who isn’t born 4 Website: www.pbks.info Email: [email protected] YouTube: Adhyatmik Vidyalaya or AIVV Vcd 3205 soul, what is the difficulty? If it has sat in the intellect that this tail of mine is hanging, there is difficulty. (Student comments.) Yes, you haven’t become that. You haven’t become that? Why haven’t you become that? It is because you just haven’t considered yourself a soul continuously yet. The Father says, wake up at amritvela and repeat in your mind and intellect ‘who am I?’ ‘I am an incorporeal point of light soul.’ Does a point have any length and breadth? A point will be said to be just incorporeal, won’t it? Yes. So, make such purushaarth. There isn’t any difficulty in [making] purushaarth. When you consider yourself a soul, there isn’t any difficulty. And what do you consider yourself? When you consider yourself a body, what all does the body need? Arey, what all does it need? (Student replies.) Yes, it needs food. Accha? Doesn’t it need water? Gandhiji survived for 40 days without food but water is certainly needed. Water is needed. They say: Water itself is life (jaal hi jiivan hai). Does it need the food of the soul? Well, the food of the soul is . That love is even kalahiin. It can also be below eight celestial degrees and there is love complete with 16 celestial degrees too. Is all that [love] the love of the gyanendriyaan or is it [the love] beyond the indriyaan? The love of the deities is that of the gyanendriyaan. The love of the demons is that of the karmendriyaan; they especially need the [love of] the kaamendriya no matter what. So, do those demons consider themselves a soul? They don’t. And the deities? They do consider themselves a soul but they take the pleasure of the gyanendriyaan. They have the knowledge in their mind and intellect. What? ‘I, the soul am a point of light.’ So, to consider yourself a soul is something common because you are a soul. Or are you still thinking that you are a body, a perishable body? Are you a perishable body? For how many births? Arey! You considered yourself only a perishable body for 63 births, didn’t you? Yes. Now the Father explains that you aren’t a perishable body but you are an imperishable soul. You leave one body and take another, don’t you? So, are you imperishable or perishable? You are an imperishable soul. So, it is something common to consider yourself a soul. You leave one body and take on a second one, you leave the second one and take on a third one. Yes. Someone said: The soul is imperishable. Then, consider yourself to be a soul now, won’t you? It is because when you came, you came naked. Did you come as a soul or did you come wearing the cloth like body? You came as a soul and that soul was pure. Well, this body becomes impure. What? Even if it is the body of the deities, though it is a body complete with 16 celestial degrees, does that too become impure to some extent birth after birth because of coming in the colour of company or not? Yes. Is it coloured by the company of the indriyaan, does it have attachment towards the indriyaan or not? Does it experience the love of the indriyaan, the love of the mouth or not? It does. So look, now, when you came, you were pure. There was not even the trace of the perishable body which becomes impure. Now, even when you go, you will go after becoming pure, won’t you? And to which number (rank) do you want to go? Do you want to go to those who are number one? Do you want to go to those who are complete with 16 celestial degrees, who are bound in the celestial degrees or do you want to go to the ones who have fewer celestial degrees? Or do you want to go to those who have fewer than even eight celestial degrees? (Student replies.) Do you want to go to the first number? Arey! So… Then? Baba has already told [us], how much time does it take for the soul to become pure? It takes 40-50 years. So, aren’t 40 years completed? 40 years are certainly completed. So, would someone have become [pure] or not? What indication of it has been mentioned? [He becomes] incorporeal in a second, corporeal in the next second [and] subtle, the one who stays in [the stage of] thinking and churning in the next second. So, you should ask yourself, shouldn’t you? Have we become such an incorporeal soul? Full stop, [there must be] no thought at all. It is only when we become like that that we will go, isn’t it?

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So, would only one have become [like that] or would someone else also have become [like that]? Only one? Accha? Wouldn’t anyone else have become an incorporeal soul, a yogi at all? Only one [soul] is a firm yogi? Arey, he isn’t called complete as long as he is single in this world. Even if it is the soul of Adinarayan himself, if he is alone, if he hasn’t found any companion… what kind [of companion]? The one who harmonizes [with him] with the nature and sanskaars, someone whom he trusts completely… (To the student:) It is now that you remembered. Mother Yogini, yes. Otherwise, who did you use to remember? (Student replies.) Yes, Mother Lakshmi sat in your intellect very nicely. Yes. Arey, Mother Lakshmi has the form of Radha, the Chandravanshi Radha first. Later on, she goes in the family of the Suryavanshis … is she paired off [with someone] or not? Yes. Then, she becomes a Suryavanshi. Then it will be said that she became completely pure. Isn’t it? Pure to what extent? She doesn’t even care for the pleasure of the indriyaan; neither does she care for the pleasure of the gyanendriyaan nor the karmendriyaan. In fact, she is such a soul who doesn’t care for the pleasure of the karmendriyaan birth after births. Does Radha care for the pleasure of the kaamendriya? (Student replies.) Yes, if she cares for such [pleasure] in her life – in any birth – she can’t become Radha, the one who imbibes Ram at all. What? What does Radha mean? The one who is the father of the human world… the father is called Ram, isn’t he? And what about Krishna? Go and see the yaadgar in temples, is he shown in the form of a child or in the form of an adult? He is shown in the form of a child. So it was said, it is a simple fact: if you become such an incorporeal, vice less and ego less soul that not even a trace of the body comes in the mind and intellect, then it will be said, you go [back] naked. How will you become pure and go now? So, the method was mentioned: ‘Maam ekam yaad karo (remember Me alone)’. What does it mean? What is the meaning of ‘maamekam’ (Me alone)? Whom? Which ‘one’? Which ‘one’ should you remember? (Student replies.) Shivbaba? Won’t we become pure if we remember the Father Shiva? Why? Isn’t the Father Shiva the Supreme Soul? Doesn’t any soul remember the Father Shiva? Which souls? (Student replies.) The vidharmi religious fathers remember [Him]? Don’t the svadharmi Chandravanshis remember [Him]? Doesn’t the svadharmi Chandravanshi soul, the religious father remember Him? There are the svadharmi Chandravanshi and Suryavanshi religious fathers as well, aren’t there? Don’t they remember the Incorporeal One? Whom do they remember? Do they remember themselves? They certainly know about themselves that they have a stone like intellect. Arey, would they have recognised [themselves] completely or not: ‘yes, we are the ones with a stone like intellect’? Since when did they recognize [this]? Arey, ever since they studied the knowledge and the Father said: It is said, ‘Dev-dev Mahadev, I Myself am that. is a deity, is a deity and Shankar is the greatest deity. I Myself am playing even that part of Shankar Mahadev now’. Or is he playing it? Is he playing it? What will be said? I am playing it. Until when has it been said? Until when am I playing it? What? (Student replies.) Until he has become equal? So, has he become [equal] or not? And has only one [soul] become [equal] or have more than one [soul] become [equal]? (To the student:) Arey! You left the very question paper! (Student replies.) (Baba repeats the student’s answer:) He has taken retirement. Alright, He has taken retirement. Then, would He have made someone sit on His seat (as a replacement) before going or not? No? Who? One [soul] or two-four [souls]? (Student replies.) One? Two [souls]? Accha? (Teasing the student:) This one is going to become firm in the household path! (Student comments.) Yes. It will be said, there is another one [equal to Him] in this corporeal world, when He has 100 percent faith on him, ‘he will act the way I want’. Only then will it be said for the other one or will it be said even if he uses his own opinion sometimes? No. So, Yogiraj is famous, Yogishwar is famous. The worldly people, the religious fathers say, ‘Krishna is Yogiraj.’ The Father says, ‘Krishna complete with 16 celestial degrees isn’t the king, the controller of the yogis. The king of the yogis is the one 6 Website: www.pbks.info Email: [email protected] YouTube: Adhyatmik Vidyalaya or AIVV Vcd 3205 who is called Vivasvat (the Brilliant One) in the Gita; ‘I come and give the knowledge to Vivasvat, the Sun first’. Do I give it or does he take it? ‘I give it.’ Through whom do I give it? Through whom do I give the knowledge to Vivasvat, the Sun? (To the students:) Arey! You don’t write anything. Do I give it through Yogini?! You have written Yogini. Yes, through whom do I give it? Arey, I am in fact incorporeal, how will I give knowledge? A mouth is certainly needed to give the knowledge, isn’t it? Through whom [do I give it]? (To the student:) Arey! You are confused. No reply. (Student replies.) Through the Sun? Who is the Sun? Who is the Sun in this world? Arey? Arey! (Student replies.) Shivbaba? Accha? (Baba repeats the student’s answer:) Shivbaba is always present? The one who is always present in this world, who doesn’t leave this stage like world at all, either with the soul or the body, that soul of the hero actor who is forever present, it will be said for him. So, when does he become [that]? When does he become such incorporeal [and] vice less equal to the Supreme Soul Father? It was said: Maam ekam yaad karo. Remember which maam ekam (Me alone)? Which ekam (one soul) should he remember? Arey, which ‘one’ should that soul of the permanent chariot remember? Ye lo! Yes, write. Write one syllable, I will understand. (Student replies.) Should he remember Shiva, the Incorporeal One? Accha? (Student replies.) Shivbaba? It means, Shiva is the name of the Incorporeal One and Baba is the name of the corporeal one; [should he remember] both of them? Arey, is there one [soul] who bears the permanent chariot or are there two [souls] who bear the permanent chariot? There is one [soul]. So, who should he remember? (Student replies.) That soul of the permanent chariot should secretly remember Shivbaba within himself. Yes, this answer is correct. So, remember Me alone. Then it will be said, ‘maam ekam’. Ek doesn’t mean the Point of Light Shiva. Yes, when that Point of Light Shiva makes the permanent chariot a point of light equal to Himself and he has this firm faith: ‘I alone am the one equal to that Point of Light Shiva, the eldest son of the Father’, then, will he remember Shiva, the Incorporeal One in his own physical form or not? Or will he remember his own soul? (Student replies.) Yes, it is because although his own soul attains the incorporeal seed form stage, he does become incorporeal in a second, corporeal the next second and subtle the next but does he become that continuously? He doesn’t become that continuously. So what should he do? Which point should he remember? Two points are sitting beside each other in the same body, so which point should he remember? Should he remember his own point, his own soul? (Student replies.) Yes, he should remember the Soul who is with him, the Supreme Soul. He has certainly retired. He has retired, gone and sat home, in the Supreme Abode. Then? He sat home? Yes. What does it mean? (Student replies.) Yes, the permanent chariot He enters, it is said for him, it is repeatedly said in the murli: Remember the Father, remember the Teacher, remember the Sadguru, remember heaven, remember your house, remember the Father, [remember] the house. So is it the house like body or not? Yes. He is the house like body of the Supreme Soul and will he be the house of all the seed form souls who attain the seed form stage number wise or not? [Of] how many? How many? One? One, that’s it? Now, just one has remained? Now the pravriti (household path) has ended!  Isn’t it? Now, the same one, Lakshmiji maharani has come! Baba has become hidden. Mother Yogini is the instrument; she has also become hidden. So, are there one or two? Yes. Have both of them combined and become one Vishnu? Have they become one personality? Are they different personalities or one? (Student replies.) Yes, they become one with the nature and sanskaars. That is why it is shown that when they become one, they are considered to be the controller of the whole world. Although they are considered to be that by a few children first, later the whole world will consider them the controller of the whole world, won’t they? They will. So, who are shown along with Jagannath? Who are shown?

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Arey, you forgot? Balram and Subhadra are shown. Another name of Balram is Balbhadra. His strength (bal) is beneficial; it isn’t the strength of ghosts and spirits. What kind of strength? Is [his] strength beneficial or is it the strength of ghosts and spirits? (Student replies.) Yes. Enter Dadi Gulzar, control her body, sit compulsorily for fourteen hours and narrate vani through her and Dadi Gulzar becomes tired… so did he give sorrow or happiness? What did he give? He gave sorrow, didn’t he? Yes. So it was said, it isn’t that all the souls who become the ones with equal sanskaars, who are called ashtadev (the eight deities)… They become the eight [deities] number wise according to their purushaarth, don’t they? You shouldn’t remember all of them, even if it is Mother Yogini herself among them. Whom do you have to remember? You should remember one bodily being, the permanent chariot. (To the student:) Then, you have started remembering Mother Yogini too. What is said? Khajur me se chute aur babul me latak gaye3. The intellect moved away from Lakshmi maharani and where did it get entangled? The intellect got entangled in babul.  We will work as per the direction we receive. Pay special attention to that direction. What? And who is the Director? Arey! Who is the senior Director of the drama? There are junior directors as well. They are many. There are also the eight [deities] on this stage like world. They are called the ashtadev. But who is the number one? What is he called? M.D. Its yaadgaar exists even in today’s world, doesn’t it? Managing director, isn’t it? So, is he always present in the factory or does he go there sometimes? He visits sometimes, doesn’t he? Yes. And is even he visible to everyone? Is he visible to everyone? He isn’t. So it was said, maam ekam yaad karo, remember Me alone. It means, don’t remember two points, don’t remember three points either. Don’t remember the points of the ashtadev either. Remember Me, the one Point alone. Which one Point? [Should you remember Me] in one permanent chariot, two chariots or eight chariots? Yes, remember Me, the one Point in one permanent chariot. Is it a direction for everyone or isn’t it a direction for the permanent chariot? It is the same direction for the permanent chariot too, that he shouldn’t remember his own soul which becomes the one with a stone like intellect at the end of the Iron Age. Will he remain the one with only a stone like intellect till the end... Will he perform just good tasks or will he also perform the tasks [that give rise to] cries of despair? Will he perform the task of destruction or not? Arey, will he perform it or not? Won’t he? Yes. So, the Father says, the part of Shankar is destructive. My part is beneficial. So, do you need to remember someone beneficial or someone who brings destruction? You do need someone beneficial. Nonetheless, how will you remember that Beneficial One without having a faithful intellect towards the corporeal bodily being? Which point should you remember? You will certainly have to remember [Him] in some corporeal body, the permanent chariot, won’t you? Yes. Keep remembering Me alone, all your sins will be destroyed. Your rust… what does rust mean? One is pure iron and the other is the one which becomes dusty, it becomes rusted, the mud of body consciousness sticks to it. That is called... What is it called? The doctors, the vaidya who make medicines know it. Manduur (rust of iron). Yes. So, your rust will be removed, then you will come along with Me. What? You can’t come with Me just like that. When can you come? [It isn’t] that brother, you will become [like] iron and come along with Me. Accha, you will become like silver, [like] copper and come along with Me. There is rust (impurities) in gold, silver and everything, isn’t there? The 24 carat pure gold, for which, it will be said that there isn't any addition of silver, copper or iron in it - when you become such a soul, it means you shouldn't have attachment or inclination towards any bodily being. Which bodily being? No matter if it is the soul who comes in the kalaatiit age, you shouldn’t have any attachment or inclination of the mind and the intellect or have such thoughts for him

3 lit. out of the frying pan into the fire; it means to get free from one thing and entangle in another 8 Website: www.pbks.info Email: [email protected] YouTube: Adhyatmik Vidyalaya or AIVV Vcd 3205 either. He shouldn’t pull you towards him through the mind and intellect again and again. So, remember Me, such a Soul alone; then all your rust will be removed and you will come along with Me. You will come along with Me. Who said “with Me”? Shiva, the Supreme Soul Himself said: You will come with Me. Then I, too, will become a cakmak (magnet). What? What does cakmak mean? What is it? It is magnet, isn’t it? Yes. I will become a magnet. You too, will become a magnet. What? Stick iron and magnet together. So, will the quality of the magnet of attracting [things] go into the iron as well or not? It will, won't it? Yes. Then, you will also become a magnet and everyone will go [to the Supreme Abode]. And whatever part someone has received - all the actors who are present in this world - they have to repeat their parts again. So, this isn’t a big thing. Why? Why isn’t it a big thing? Arey, have we played this part of becoming pure every kalpa or not? We have. When plays are enacted, they keep repeating. This also keeps repeating. This is the unlimited drama. This is an imperishable drama; there can’t be any changes in it. Those dramas go on being made. There are small and big dramas. This is an unlimited drama. Accha, the very sweet – Who were called sweet? – sweeter [and] the sweetest. Arey, why did He make these three categories? Who? Which souls are included in this category? (To the student:) What did you write? Don’t you know? Yes. Alright, leave it. (Student comments.) Baba, a curfew has been imposed. Arey, why did you raise such a topic which changed the context? This one just sees curfew the whole day! Even if he listens to Baba’s murli, he [says] kar fu (curfew). Rafu… your intellect is running away (rafu cakkar). Arey… who are the sweet children? (Student replies.) The 8, the 108 and the 16108? And what about the rest? What is the category of the rest [of the souls]? (Student replies.) They aren’t even sweet? The 8, the 16108 [and] the 108 [souls] will be those who experience the super sensuous joy. It means, those who become complete with 16 celestial degrees, won’t they be sweet? You have disgraced Krishna Kanhaiya Laal, the one whom the scholars, learned men and teachers considered to be Krishna Kanhaiya Laal isn’t sweet at all. Isn’t he a sweet child? Then, why do they build so many temples and remember that child keeping him in the temples and making idols? Arey, he must have been sweet, only then do they remember [him]. So, isn’t he sweet? Isn’t he even sweeter? (Student replies.) Is he sweeter? Then, he isn’t what? (Student replies.) He isn’t the sweetest? Accha, doesn’t he become the Angel (farishta) Vishnu? Doesn’t he become the helper arm of the Angel Vishnu? (Student comments.) Is that right? Arey, does he become that or not? Doesn’t he become his arm? (Student replies.) Then? If he becomes his arm, he is also the sweetest. How many [souls] are the sweetest? There are how many [souls] who become the sweetest like this? (Student replies.) Are there four [souls]? Are there five [souls]? Are there four or five [souls]? Are there four [souls]? Accha? Four [souls] are the sweetest and isn’t the One above, the One who operates those arms the sweetest? (Student replies.) Is He the one who resides above? Doesn’t He become the one who resides below? Does He alone become kalaatiit? Arey, will one [soul] become kalaatiit among the Suryavanshis or will many [souls] become that? (Student replies.) Yes. There are categories even among them. So look, there are [the souls] of all the three kinds, aren’t there? A teacher also has such children who are sweet, sweeter [and] the sweetest. I mean… Sweet, sweeter [and] the sweetest. So, Baba also says the same. But Baba doesn’t sit [the children in that sequence] in the school. Who? If He sits [them that way] those poor ones will become disheartened. This is why, He doesn’t tell [them]. He doesn’t tell [them] class wise that this one is sweet, this one is sweeter [and] this one is the sweetest. Om Shanti. Is it the third [today]?

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