Fifth Series, Vol . LXIII No. 8 Friday, August 20, 1976 Sravana 29, 1898 (Saka)
Lok Sabha Debates
(Seventeenth Session)
(Vol . LXIII, contains Nos. 1-10)
LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT New Delhi Price- Rs 2.00 CONTENTS
N o. 8, Friday, August 20, i ^ 6 jSravana 29, 1898 (Saka) Co l u m n s Oral Answers to Questions:
•Starred Questions Nos. 141, 143, 145, 146, 148, 151 to 153 and * 5 7 ...... 1— 30 Written Answers to Questions:
Starred Questions Nos. 142, 144, 147, 149, 150, 154 to 156 and 158 to 1 6 0 ...... 30— 39 Unstarred Questions Nos. 1062 to 1068, 1070 and 1072 to 1178 . 39—127
Papers laid on the T a b l e ...... 127—92 Messages from Rajya Sabha...... 129—30 Adoption of Children Bill— (1) Report of Joint Committee...... 130 («■) Evidence...... 130— 31
Business of the House— Shri K. Raghu R am a iah ...... 131— 32 Committee of Privileges— Eighteenth Report a d o p t e d ...... 132— 33
Bum Company and Indian Standard Wagon Company (Nationalisation) Bill— Introduced ...... 133
Statement Re. Bum Company and Indian Standard Wagon Company (Nationalisation) Ordinance, 1976— l a i d ...... 134
Braithwaite and Company (India) Limited (Acquisition and Transfer of Undertakings) Bill— Introduced ...... 134
Statement Re. Braithwaite and Company (India) Limited (Acquisition and Transfer of Undertakings) Ordinance, 1976— laid . . . 135
Supplementary Demands for Grants (General), 1976-77 . . 135— 77
Shri R. S. P an dey...... 135— 4* Shri Shyam Sunder Mohapatra ...... 142— 49 Dr. Rudra Pratap S in g h ...... 150— 56 Shri Ranabahadur S in g h ...... 156— 57 Shri Chapalendu Bhattacharyyia ...... 157— 61 Shri K. Mayathevar . . ~ ...... 161— 64 Shrimati Sushila Rohatgi ...... 164—74
*The sign+ marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (ii) Col um ns
Appropriation (No. 5) Bill, 1976— Introduced .... 177—75
Motion to consider—
Shrimati Sushila R o h a t g i ...... 177—78
Clauses 2, 3 and 1 ...... 178—79
Motion to pass—
Shrimati Sushila Rohatgi ...... •r 179 Statutory Resolution Re. Increase in Export Duty on Hides, Skins etc.— Shri Pranab Kumar Mukherjee...... 179—
Shri S. M. B a n e r j e e ...... 182—85
Statutory Resolution Re. Continuance in force of Proclamation in res - pect of Nagaland— 186—88 Shri K. Brahmananda Reddy ...... 192—94
Shri S. M. Banerjee ...... 188— 92
Statutory Resolution Re. Continuance in force of the Proclamation in respect of Tamil Nadu— Shri K. Brahmananda Reddy ...... 194—91
Committee on Private Members’ Bills and Resolutions— Sixty-sixth Report adopted ...... 197
Resolution Re. National Forest Policy—
Shri Ajit Kumar Saha ...... 198—201 Shri M. C. D a g a ...... 299—20 Shri Chintamani Panigrahi ...... 209—1 Shri B. V. N a i k ...... 213— u Dr. V. K. R. Varadaraja R a o ...... 216—23 240—4 Shri D. K. P a n d a ...... 223—a Shri Giridhar G om ango...... 226— 2 Shri Annasaheb P. Shinde ...... 228—3 Shri P. K. Deo ...... 239-^4 Resolution Re. Provision of Facilities for Weaker Sections of Muslims — Shri C. K. Chandrappan ...... 242— - LOK SABHA DEBATES ^ ' .r .^...... - . .,«£■ ■ ‘— ;------—.*■ 2 I ' ■ ■ (•! • LOK SABHA [know. There is a detailed report. There are many recommendations. I hope, I will not be asked to read out the whole thing.
Friday, /4i<£ks* 20, 1976/Srava/ia 29, 1898 SHRI R.S. PANDEY : May I know (Sa*a) how many airports are in the country where the arrangement made is fully equipped to fight fire accidents?
TAe La* SaMa me* at Eleven of the Clock SHRI RAJ BAHADUR: TheD.G.C.A. has got as many as 85 airports under his rMR. Spe a k e r tn f/w CJiair] control out of which 37 airports are being used by the Indian Airlines. The arrange- X>KAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ments for fighting fire accidents, etc. have been provided in some measure or other Fire Fighting Service® at Airports at all of them. *141. SHRI R.S. PANDEY: Will the SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : May I Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL know whether it is a fact that sometime AVIATION be pleased to state: ago, in order to mprove the fire fight- ing services at the airports, some orders (*) w u t e Civil Aviation Review Com- had been placed for imported fire fighting m.ttee has suggested som - steps for improv- crash tenders about waich in this House ing fi:e fij u iig >ecvices at airports; and rainy Members had raised certain fb) if so, th: d.xisun of Government questions alleging that this type of crash ^thereon? tenders were not suitable for us and that the foreign suppliers were also THH MINISTER OF TOURISM demanding exorbitant prices for them and AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ wnether it is also a fact that now, after BAHADUR) : (a) and j(b). Yes, Sir. Go- further consideration and enquiry, th« vemm nthave appointed an Empowered Government has a Iso come to a conclusion C j.nnttee to process the re comm end a- that this particular type of fire fighting ti)'8 m iiib y ths C vil Aviation Review crash tenders are unsuitable and too ex C » ti 1 re *, with a view to finalise Go- pensive for us ? vernment decisions thereon. SHRI RAJ BAHADUR : It is true SHRI R. S. PANDEY : May I that tenders were floated for the procure- k iitf w'.ecier ths Civil Aviation Review ment of as miny as 20 crash fire tenders Camnittee w’nich was headed by Mr. and they were released in 1974. A 3 . R. D. Tata has submitted its report technical committee was set up. The and, if so, whit are the detailed tenders were floated on the basis of specifications given by the technical com- SHRI RAJ BAHADUR : As regards mittee. When the tenders came, they details, I will be able to place a summary were again examined by the technical ♦ofthemiin recommendations. I think, committee under the Chairmanship of the *iut his already been djae. I do not Secretary. Then, finally, an order wag 3 O nt jtaMwift WTyl JNHRRi
i w w f l h r : qnft t r placed on M/i. Kronen beif jift *% **; "* | % 1075-76 ^ I know, we took fulLnote of the objections ftttiicie nlttdintheHouic and ottdde • 3 .1 0 7 4 . it and, utdmstely, we also dfew t*P the con- f c f c m *T f*!7 ?& fWT, ^ r tract so as to satisfy all owieqoittm nti. The tender that was accepted via* found w r I, X# % fa q aft by the Technical committee to be satis- btw iw 1 a r r w factory. But the negotiations on the contact took a very long time because V£«n ft WS 19 75-76 5 S jh ft M/i. Kronen be*® talced many objections. sft vTTWnft $ ftn r o tnr ?it Because of that, it took as much as about 12 months to finalise the contract, after i f w f l ifrc fairfa $m which they demanded an escalation of * * v iw rft ifch $ « « ift- 17-X-/2 per cent which was not acceptable to us. Therefore, we have floated tenders % tm v v ft sttfir * rf tk «pn? again. The tenders have been received ^ vffc afflff ^ | f r *wta*r w and they are under scrutiny now. wnr Ft^vr«r s3 *r ?
Export of Tobacco ff -shI? *»$ arRsrT *rrj*rr fir sfvt fafc?v % *143- SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be *rr 1975-76 *» ipnra i pleased to state : % ’Ft w ^«TT ? «rfv ft ^ frtfb wft fw n ? *r (a) whether there is a proposal to export 5 tobacco this year; and f^TT ^ r ? r wm *n v*rfr *rr tt* rr f**TT I HTf* irwrrffi 7$ iftT (b) if so, the names of the countries and the quantum proposed to be exported? 5? m *f*T *r irfn Sr wnre’ ft ▼ j 1 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP* VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : SINGH : The two years have been (a) Yes, Sir. of short crop of tobacco and the level of (b) During the year 1975-76, a total export? is expected to be the same. About quantity of 74* 3 million Kgs. of unmanu- the particular company, I would require; factured tobacco [valued at Rs. 93*10 separate notice. crores was exported to mote than 40 Countries in the world. Our major byers '■«*. -i. >. ' SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP t because .manufactured tobacco. is a monor SINGH i 'I have got .iiiibtfttttJjHk in poly of three pr four big firms? Has respect of tobacco and tobacco manufac- he got the figure now ? tures, About the other items, I would require separate notice. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH : I am sorry. I do not have SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : the break-up figures now. Thehon. Minister, while stating the names of the countries to which unmanufactured SHRI P VENKATASUBBAIAH : tobacco was exported, mentioned also Andhra Prdesh is the greatest producer Bangladesh. The people of Bangladesh of Virginia tobacco. Since the Tobacco are very much found of Dinhata tobacco Board has been formed, does the Gover- which is grown in the Cooch-Behar dis- ment propose to canalise export of tobacco trict of West Bengal. Irtviewof that fact, through the Tobacco Board or whether I would like to know from the hon. Mi- another alternative arrangements are nister whether there is any sprcial cell or being made. Instead of many firms proper coordination to collect this par- exporting the same thing are jhe ticular variety of tobacco which is liked thinking of cancalising export through by the people of Bangladesh, and if STC or any other Government of India not, whether, through the Tobacco undertaking ? Development Board, he is going to make certain special arrangements for the bulk SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP purchase of tobacco from the growers at a SINGH : Government has no intention to reasonable price. canalise the export of tobacco. Tobacco Board will advise Government, on the minimum price of export of tobacco ; it SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP will have an eye on the markets and ad- SINGH: Government make all efforts for vise the Government in the context o f ircreasirg the export of all varieties of increase of exports. tobacco including that.in wh;ch Bangladesh is interested. For that purpose the Tobacco Board has been set up and parti- Import of Copper and Zinc cularly for Virginia tobacco and flucured to- bacco various measures have been taken *145. SHRI M.C. DAGA: Will the for increasing the export. Various in- Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to centives are also given for purposes of state : dry-curing* for purchase of machines, la- boratory equipments, packages and so on, (a) whether there is any proposal to and we are trying to have this according stop imports of Copper and Zinc in view to the demands of the external markets. of tremendous indigenous production of There has been an EEC team which these metals; and suggested certain agricultural practices re- garding various things Which we are (b) how much quantity of Copper and attempting to follow. Zinc is lying at present in godoWns o f Minerals and Metals Traling Corporation ? SHRI TRIDIB CHAUDHURI : I Would like to know whether this figure THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE includes cigarettes. Whether it includes (PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA): or not, can you give a break-up of the quantities exported by different firms (a) No, Sir. 7 Oral Answers AUGUST 20, 1976 ^ Oral Answers - 8 , -^O- ft ,v A**-5* * (b)M M TC has in stock sufficient imr tfr anfta Jf faa*t fir | quantities of these m;uls to service kaoWn requirements of the industry. The posi- I tfn: m t o t tion is kept constantly under review and * I <>*r *rr7% fad grdrr «rr corrective steps are taken as and when necessary. m x urar faff *rr* * ^ $ ? ,/m;* MR. SPEAKER : I think this is part f f Wjnc *ST3T 3T>, (b) of the question. i f f awr* vrjjT £ PROF D.P. CHATTOPADHYAYA : I s ? t fa r yYar | f a m r t * r % fa*m think 1 have already answered this part of the question,that is, at woat price—C.I.A. f a p *fr < fa a ^ w ufar *rr 1 9 7 4 - price— We have purchased and the price at wliich We are selling and way is there a 7 5 3 «r> ? % ‘TfTT Sf Tax E va*Ion by Shri R.N. Goenka (ii) , Faced with losses running into *148. SHRI D.K. PANDA : * about Rs. 85 lakhs due to fall in* value of SHRI S.A. MURUGANANTHAM : shares of M/s. Indian Iron and steel Co., Ltd., Indian Express Newspaper ^ Will the Minister of REVENUE AND (Bombay) (P) Ltd.,Express Newspapers BANKING be pleased tp state : (P) Ltd., Madras, Indian Express (a) whether the Income Tax Depart- (Madund) (P) Ltd.v Andhra Prabha (P) ment has detected a tax evasion on income Ltd., VijayaiWada and their directors and of over Rs. 2 crorcs by Shri R.N. Go nka; and others formed a bogus firm in the name of #; !i r ‘Express Traders’ in order to pass off the c (b) if so, the facts thereof and action above loss incurred on* ‘capital account* being taken against him ? as a trading loss. ALhough the firm THE MINISTER OF STATE Was formed after April, 1971* it Was made IN-CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT to appear that it had in fact been formed OF REVENUE AND BANKING with effect from 1-10-1970 With the four SH kr S.1 A. 'SHAJttIM: You want Jmird*kstvthoM stocks weic amnuUmnt. *hat itltftotity also > Iwouldiikeioknow whether* tfatem|fie«t MR. SPEAKER : Then, Mr. Muru- alsorany proceedings of anytfl* at* Mug. gantatfam—not~hfcre. SHKZ Cj OSWAMI undertaken. So many yean are petting and nothing is happening at all. SHRI DINESH CHANDRA OO- SW AM I: From the reply of the hon. SHRI FRANAB KUMAR MUKHER- Minfsttr it becomes apparent that the Go* JEE : So far as the National Jute M ill vtixOtaent H contemplating case* ia other is concern* d the CBI j s investigating into directiona also andtie is already a aswehng that affair..... the charges regarding income tat and there SHRI INDRAJIT GUFTA : Still too* complaints have been made. investigating ? May I loow whether already some cases have been fifed against Shri R.rf. Goerka SKRI JR/NAB XVM/R MUKttrR- regarding some of the anomalies and if so, JEE : . . . ard they have rot yet crjnp- at what stage these cases are pending lttid and as a rtjult, ro cate frejn the and some of the cases have been stayed by taxatior. point of v k w has bctc instiitated. the High Courts and if so what is the present position of those cases ? SHRI K. MAYATHEVAR : May r SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHER- understand from the hon. Minister's JEE . So far as the two income-tax cases reply that Mr. Goenka A hjs companies are concerned one is in the Presidency are capable of committing almost all Magistrate’s Court at Madras and the kinds of offences under the Indian Penal other is in the Metropolitan Magistrate's Cede and most of the provisions are Court, Bombay. In Madras the CBI being violated on the mcometax aide has also filed a case and in respect of so on and so forth and all offences are other companies, particularly, the Indian being committed. Even their newspaper* Express Pvt. Ltd , Bombay the CBI is in Tamil Nadu like the Indian Express* investigating. Another ease is being looked Dinmam and the periodical Dtrtmarti afttr by the Department ot Compnay Kadir are writing against the 20-Point Programme even to this day. Is there Affairs. no programme totcke severe action against these papers ar.d applying MISA against SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : In the Mr. Goenka and his companies } They statement I do not find any reference to are writing against the 20-Poini programme the affairs of the National Jute Mill itself. Company. Is it not a fact that in 1965 there was a complaint about false vouchers having been concocted to show much SHRI PRANAB KUNAR MUKHER- larger payments having been made for JEE : So far as newspaper items ara big quantities of raw jute purchased concerned, I have nothing to do fn m the whereas the actual price paid by the com- taxation point of view. pany was much leas and thereby naturally tax evasion was also carried oat. There MR. SPEAKER : Next question— aeem to be no proceedings against them for 'Shn Lalji Bhti<»»ebtfat. tax evasion in this particular ease. Secondly, the same company were able Shri Gangadeb—also not here. «D get a very targe quantity of loans from the State Bank of India by hypothecating SHRS.BHOGOgfltA ' JHA i Mfc their stocks of raw lute and later it was Speaker, pkase allow me one question. 17 Oral Answers "• SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Oral Answers l& i MR. SPEAKER : I have allowed five As from the xst April, 1974* *there has questions, The questions are all in the been a change in the policy of Central, nature of suggestions and the Minister is assistance to States for natural cala- not giving4'any more answer. I am sorry mines in pursuance of recommendations, I cannot allow any more questions. of the Finance Commission. No non i& Plan Central assistance is given to States SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA : I got now for meetir g expenditures ^necessitated up many times to catch your eye and you by natural calamities. Where consi- are not allowing me. As a protest, I walk dered essential, t advance Plan assistances out. made available to the States for acce- Shri Bhogendrajha, then left the house. lerating Plan programmes, but such ad- vance assistance is liable to be adjusted SHRI S. A. SHAMIM : This may be registered as a walk-out. This is th within the Central assistance to States first walk-out afterkthe Emergency. in the Fifth Plan period as a whole. This is the first lone walk-out by a loan member. In view of what has been stated above, it is not possible to isolate the amount of MR. SPEAKER : I am sorry. Next question. interns paid by the Bihar Government on Central loans for natural calamities Loans outstanding Against the during 1974-75 and 1975-76. Bihar Government •151. SHRI N.E.HORO : Will] the SHRI N. E. HORO : As per the state- Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: ment since the policy has been changed (a) the total loan outstanding against and now all the outstanding loans are Bihar Goverrment on account of relief consolidated, the Government are not advances; and able to give a separate figure as to what is the relief loan outstanding from (b) the amount of interest Bihar Gov- the Bihar Government. I should eTrment have paid to the Central Gov- like to know from the govern- ernment during 1974-75 and 1975-76 on ment, at the time the different loans were this account? consolidated, what wbs the figure and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN how much has been realised as THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE principal and interets and what is the out- (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): standing ? (a) ard (b) :A statement is laid on the Tabic of the House. SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI : Statement It is true that the loans were being con- (a) and (b): Following the recom- solidated and the hon. Member I wants mendations of the Sixth Finance to know the figure at the time it was Commission, all loans outstanding against * consolidated. In the case of Bihar at the State Governments at the end of end of 1973-74 the consolidated amount 1973-74 have been consolidated. The stood at Rs 4^*79 crores. State Governments are paying in- > terest and repaying th; principal in res- pect of such consolidated loans. The MR. SPEAKER : Is it against relief ? leans given to the State Governments for fcatural call mi ties prior to the 31st March, SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI T *974 have beccxne a part of rthese con- That i» the consolidated total for natural solidated lOML calamities. Oral Answers AUGUST 19, 1976 Oral Answers 20 tion from the various State Govern-- schemes are implemented as announc- ments we hope to review th~ fwhole ed by the Prime Minister in her 20- scheme ~nd we will s'ee in ~hat · man. point programme? · Will the Go~e~~ ~E!r it ~an be. further imptoved if any ment re\'.'few the 'entire rnatter so''that improvement is called !or. there i~ 'a healthy 9.'evelopm'ent alql)g these Imes especially in regard to the SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: This Central Government imits in West lengthy al)swei; shows that Govern- Bengal? ment is not actually very clear ~bout the impact of thi;; scheme on indus- SHRI RAGHUNATHlA REDDY: · Sir, trial r~lations in our cou~~try_ ·One in the v_ery first or second m~etin&' of year has passed since the scheme has th~ National Apex Body and also in come into force. Will the Gover~ the meetings ~I Con"Sultative -· ci;;mmi~ ip~pt agr~~ to unct'.ertake a total re- t~~ ~f Members of Parliament, I ·have view of the scheme and will they made it . very c.lear that the trade discuss this with the Central Trade union organisations. '' which do not Union OrganisatiOI).S?. Will Govern- support the emergency or ~fu~h · .. ao m ent indicate by what time this will not also support the 2o-Point "Ec0no: be done? mic Programme of the Prime l\linister, will have n-0 place in any one of the SHRI RAGHUNATHA REDDY· Ac bodies which are 'recognised by J G-o'v. I have s;;i.id, ·it has ' got' · treme~dou; ernment. impact and the 'figures clea~lv indicate that production arid prorluctivitv' has Also I have made it very clear that i.ncreased in some o~ the public' ~ector they would not be given any rlace at undertakings particularly arid this has ?11. As regards participation of the got its reflection in the niandays lost; ~pr~ err at the 'shop "!ioor' a<; ' we11 as etc. This scheme was anno:unceg •Jn P.l~!!t ~~vels, iio qutsid~r is allowed to the 30th of October and it is not yet . he(:om'e a wembifr of the sbop l€ve1 one year. We will naturally go in for ~ oinz:i~tte ~. It i~ · only those who are a review when the time fvr the review working in the plant itself whci are comes. At tha~ time we ~ill consider ailowed to do so. whether certain trade union org·ahisa- Naturally, the management judges tions could be consulted. This is cer- the situation and adopts the scheme in tainly a scheme for the b~nefit of the a manner that it is getting the fullest working class and the working clas·s cooperation 'of the- wo"rkers.' If 'T·any would definitely . }J.ave a role t() ·play. s_u!'!gestfon is to. be made' by tl:le hon. Member, he' is . most welcome to do so SHRI PRIYA ~ANJAN DAS an<;I I shall have the 'benefit of it. ·MUNS!: The Prime· Minister's Twenty.point Economic Programme mentions about workers' participaticn ,) WC f~ : mcr;f Cfi~T f $ *r *> y® f w ^ *rr Rfr^r X SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GO- SWAMI : May I kow whether it is a WTT fa*T f r JT^ff ? w fact that because of .the changed ^policy of s*a?a *} iff fa?rr t^^rn: % 5 ® the sixth Finance Commission, the eco- TTftl |,jfr ^ 3TT Tf'f | ? nomically backward States {and States i t --.- "* •• which suffer fr >m natural calam ties SHRIMATI SHUSHILA ROHATGI: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- For non-plan expenditure* the Centre CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF docs j not give anything. It is expected REVENUE * AND BANKING (SHRI PRANAB' K u m a r m u k h e r j e e ): («) that the Stale Government can do it with to (d). A Statement is laid on the Table of its own resources. In case there is any * need, the Central Government gives it the House. VPtaced in'Library. See No through the central plan a ssists:« L.T i 1161176. ! ‘ • ' • • • 23 Oral Answers AUGUST 20, 1976 Oral Answers 24 SARDAR SWARAN SINGH: SOKHI efforts o f the Central and State agencies to It has been mentioned in the statement check 'mugglirg ard other ecorcmic that thes cheme shall remain in force only offences. upto 31st March 1979. Why? Secondly, why is it not possible to indicate the extent of higher production ? frczrcr ^ iff % H srwr % im : $r foihr SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHER- ^ ^ arnrr JEE: As I have already said, the scheme $ fo w t ^frf^r Jf w Jnrrr has just ccme into force. That is why it ^ I f r TT^r is not possible to indicate to what extent extra production will be available. Regard- ing the period upto 1979, while the Finance Minister introduced the scheme WlTT &rs f , 3Tf ft*^ in the budget speech, he made it quite ^ t ^ clear. We would like to see how the scheme works. If it works well, it can ftpT 01'ffi iftr 5^3 be extended. 'r 'ttt »ft t ^V f 1 ?ft w t foffer SHRI CHAPALENDU BHATTA- ’T’TTT SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHER- SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHER- JEE: It is a hypothetical question. Hew JEE: Anti-smuggling operations is the can I answer it ? responsibilityofthe Department of Reve- nue of the Government of India. We Steps to Check Smuggling and Econo, have clear guidelines under the provisions mlc Offences of the COFEPOSA Act. Both the Cen- tral and State Go verrments are the detain- •153. SHRIMATITSAVITRISHYAM: ing authorities. Whenever any informa- SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU: tion is received, there is consultation Will the Minister of REVENUE AND between the various authorities like the BANKING be pleased to state: Director of Revenue Intelligence, Director (a) whether Goverrment are evolving of Enforcement, customs intelligence, cus- a new scheme in consultation with the toms authorities, State Home Ministry State Governments to prevent smuggling and police officials and a joint decision is and other economic offences; and taken. So far as release is concerned, the- State Governments have no authority to (b) if so, the salient features thereof? release anybody mo mom, on their own part. We have issued guidelines and they THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- have to act according to those guidelines. CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF We have received reports that in some- REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI cases they have temporarily released some PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): (a) detenues on parole, for which the State and (b). Although no new scheme as such Government* have jurisdiction, and they has been evolved by the Government, were wrong paroles. This has happened arrangements have been made for consulta- in two or three case* not mary. We have tion between senior officers of the Central drawn the attention of the State Govern- and State Govert menu to coordinate the ments to this. I f 25 Oral Answers SRAVANA 29, 1898? (SAKA) * Oral Answers 36 - - * fe nivance of the officers have corns to our ’ arfaft wm : *kr $*t t t notice and yesterday,waile replying to the sn?r t f s ?*rnf%»r fa^ ft Jngsrf debate, I pointed out that COFEPOSA s t * * ^ t t ?t tftr ^ (b) Till 6th August, 1976, an amount of Rs. 13-11 crores has been repaid. ft, forr *Ksrrt *rf«r- srfo ft % s ^ 'r 5T *rs to know from the hon. Minister today what is returned is only Rs. 5-4 lakhs. whc ther that fear has come true, whether This is on account of wages. On account there are many cases of big companies o f D .A ., the amoimt that the Government who, after having collected the money should have returned is Rs. 14-1 crores from the workers, have not deposited and the interest on it comes to Rs. 6 it with Government. In fact, I would crores. What is returned is a paltry sunt like to know from Government what will o f R s. 40 lakhs. happen to these workers. Have you returne d the first instalment in these cases W ho are the victims o f this ? Naturally, where the companies have not deposited the workers who earned this money bf the money with Government ? Will the sweat of their labour and kept it with, these workers get back the money which the companies. Now, some sharks have they have already paid ? I would like to made a profit out of it. I would like to krcw the emcunt of arrears frcm those have a categorical answer from the Govern- companies which have not deposited the ment, in cases where the payments have money with Government and whether not been made by big companies, Goverrment has got any acccimt of it. whether the Government will make the payments and the companies will be taken to task later or immediately., The workers SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI : should not suffer. Will the Government A certain doubt was expressed by some hon. give an assurance on the floor of the Members at that time, and some cases House that they are going to do that and,, have come to the knowledge of Govern- in cases of non-payment, what action has- ment. We fird that seme of them are the Government taken so far ? in the public sector too, besides the private sector. We find that Coal (India) Ltd., SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI ; and its subsidiaries are also figuring in I would like to assure the hon. Member this. The names of these defaulting that none of these sharks, big or small,, units have been brought to the notice of will be allowed to make a profit out of it. the Department of Coal, Ministry of Apart from that, the workers’ interests Energy, and instructions have also been will rot be allowed to suffer. So far as issued that without any further delay the interest on this impounded monejr action should be taken in these cases. is concerned, even if they do not receive We also find that notices of proceedings the money within this month, they will have been lodged against seme of them. not lose interest. They shall receive As a matter of fact, criminal proceedings interest till the end of the last month.. have been authorised against 59 of these. In the meantime, the Government does Either action can be taken by the District not take up the responsibility of re-pay- Collector for recovering the amount as ment. It is really the responsibility of arrears of land revenue or there is an those companies. Therefore, every option to launch criminal proceedings action is being initiated in that direction.. against them. The Government would As a matter of fact, a m eeting of all these like to assure that no delay or anything various Ministries of the Government like that will be tolerated or allowed. has taken place. Instructions have been issued that the work should be expedited.. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN : The In the meantime, a close vigilance is being, assurance is good. But before she gave kept over other companies. In addition,, this assurance, certain things hadhappened. in the A ct itself, a provision has been made In Calcutta, for example, in the month of for penal rate of interest. All these- July, the Government should have returned matters are under the consideration of the Rs. 185 lakhs to the employees. But Government. e|29 Oral Answers SRA VA N A 29, 1898 (SA K vl) p^tcC'^swers 30- SHRI C.K. CHANDRAPPAN : It SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA : was the Government who made the workers From the hon. Minister’s statement in to pay the monej. Now, here the Minister this House, it is very clear that, for the comes and says, she will not take the • money which has been Impounded but responsibility o f re-payment. W ho is which has not been deposited. Govern- resp^nsibile for that ? Who will take , ment is not responsible. If this news the responsibility ? {Interruptions). reaches the workers, you can yourself judge what will be the reaction of the SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : It workers. I will repeat the question which is you who impounded the money of has been put to you by the Speaker him^ the workers. Now, you hold the com- self, namely, what is the time-limit. On panies responsible for re-payment. It is a the 6th of this month, the money was- stinking scandal. The Government should due to be returned to the workers. What be ashamed of it. You are shedding is the time-limit by which it will be paid ? crocodile tears for the workfrs every If it is not paid by the company or the day. management or the Government, what will be the fate of the employees ? SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN : Who is responsible ? The Government SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI : is responsible. {Interruptions). He does not have to inject anything into SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI : it. Government stands by its commit- The Government is already seized of the ment, and at the shortest time, we will : matter. As far as the workers are con- see these are cleared. Thereisno scandal cerned it has been made categorically involved and it will be very unfair to say clear that the workers are not going to that lose. . . SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN : MR. SPEAKER ; Is there any time- Since this is a very important matter__ limit fixed for making payment to workers ? {Interruptions). SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI : MR. SPEAKER : You write to me; It is being expedited. The time factor we shall consider. is of the greatest importance. We are trying our best. WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS, MR. SPEAKER : You must consider that. {Interruptions). SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI : *142. sft : m x May I complete it ? The amount involved ?'TT is a very huge amount. There is no f e : scandal... {Interruptions). Let us not create any wrong impression. We have . ( ^ ) " impounded it and it has done well to the economy of the country. There has been no scandal. MR. SPEAKER : I think, the hon. ^TTTTT P w k 5ITHTT j iVIinister should first collect all the figures 't'41 ^ ; and lay them on the Table of the House as to which are the companies which have (»t) WK^TX % ^ ^ not made payments and then must fix ?m n-?r5nT, f^ cF fr as short a time-limit as possible within which all these things are to be paid. ^ I : ‘31 ^ W ritten A nsw ers^ AUGUST 20, 1976 Written Answer* , 3a *tn: 7$%qT ^m'firorn: ft i ‘T O R % fUT ^ t ?% fwrw fim % vntaw'ff *t i ■• ■’ 1 • • Tfrgm fs*nr*T#?, flrf^JTT, ^ ?R> TfT^ft ^T JTJ^H f^m ’- sftTT^t, fviH , fTvfr, T*m, ffo TTO spt% fTsrr^T qrnr?T3nrrnft % t o w srefr*r procedures, better staff relations and (ii) Release of advertisements in Foreign reduction in overtime; and Trade Journals about Indian Coffee (iii) ensuring definite improvements in~ in potential coffee consuming the content and quality of customer countries of the World. service. (iii) Increased direct exports of coffee by Coffee Board both to traditional Chinese Ship Found Involved in and non-traditional markets. Smuggling Activities (iv) Export of Coffee in the form of •154. SHRI K. MALLANNA instant coffee. Will the Minister of REVENUE AND * BANKING be pleased to state : 3 wfcr *7 wist (a) whether the Customs Authorities had impounded a Chinese Ship *Waglan * 15 6. : srtt Trmw Jsland*, at Cochin for indulging in smugg- ling activities; and f * : (b) if so, the particulars regarding the persons found guilty of the charges of smuggling ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- w& t ssht jr f ; qfa CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI (»r) m r w rw rr % srf?r sfnff PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : % ?rrT'7ir *rt % fair (a) M. V. Waglan Island, belonging to ifrsprr ^r t r fr | ? M/s. Hongkong Island Shipping Co.* Hongkong was seized by Cochin Customs on 21-5-1975 for indulging in smuggling activities. t t w ? *»rar ^ursTf) : (b) So far Mr. Li CM Wing, (*p) % ITFT cr# % sfjfr nmter of ths vessel, Waglan Island and f® 7 ?TFT «PT TT-TT% V fair, frrT TC Mr. Sze Wan Cheng, Second Bosum- »fr*Trarf «f; ?rr«T p i-* 7 cum-Steward have beer, found guilty smuggling. Tne ease against other sus- # faarR+ ^rhr Sfrc % OTTT TT XT| SHT^ national integration by folk culture and art; (*r) w 3n^«rh-TT7ifh :,fM w r v * ?rwr $ * i * f r o f r tnn ?T m «frr gr^fr k: ^rrfaiff v t ^7»r fair f ^ fftft TT^fr % tftyrryt faw srfrn: I: fair »tfr % i HSrHfrT T&T t i k w *farrr fanriT « sthr > arr^r ^ r w % wv rr r o itjtw fm r ^wwl) : % *rr ^rr * r* ir’m %**r **t r - fw ft m % jnr 20- ^ f t m fa * gi jrtt $ ?rm ^ *rT ?r^ff vt Ivt «rt ^far 20- ^ t w t «prr»r f ? % vnr^PR *t ftpif nif ^rFT *jf*r THE DEPUTY MINISTER IIN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP {SINGH) : VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : (a) No such decision has been taken. (a) to (c). The question of reserving (b) Does not arise. production of crape cloth exclusively for the handloom sector is under consideration and a decision is expected as soon as matter fnrm v wro * is fully examined. 106 5. TT* f * f j ; : *ffiT57T Rates of interest charged by Financing Agencies *teft 5TTT% *ft fT-TT *PT«t f% : 1067. SHRI MOHINDER SINGH (?P) ^FTT ^F’TP'T % £ JT~*T if »FT GILL: Will the Minister of REVENUE # 1 *T^rf % 50 % 6 0 Sf'TJpT AND BANKING be pleased to state: * t f t % ; (a) whether Government are aware that different rates of interest are being charged (*) jrfr ?r, ?tt Tcfn^fr cpar by different financing agencies in the ^tt % %trr w w f? % ^rror f ; country; (b) if so, whether Government propose (»r) **r«t ?«rsFrsrr ^«rnr ( 3599 % T r r % *r*3rf»r it *r?r srrseTci «5 «,f«nrf ( f ^ - e fa f ’TT af^T fsF : WWfn (sf) «PTT m x ST^T it W ltf 3PT 107 0. >4 i -*mV*T 27 f e z t .-s w rrfw i %■■ ^rr VTT f ; Trf«TW *r#t ^ ^tpt ?^tt % : ( ^ ) w r H T52XT '■*: < m ii ( * ) h 73frrr ypjfcnf ^t »TP7T 5TTTT mWT fspUT 3TRTT | 5TtT srsqr | t f r r sr?vr 5 $?r fa ?n r- qf< ?t, m f^r-fw^r sm *r fT=pfr (*T) WT ^ T T f e z w -n «rr ^f (fo o tfT°) s f ip STOffiT sft? f W b r «5T?3T# 1974-75 . W T*PflPT J j f i i f c TtfasrtfaiP Trivandrum-Bombay Flights of Indian sTrfar^ («»V Airlines PmTPJ 5r?nv r«?s) : (^) f t > 1072. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL ( (»r.)v *nrrfa wnfaT Procurement of jute through Government agency #t*R^ ?n«L % i t * WnTT 1076. SHRI* R. N. BARMAN: Will «st w % fa«* «flr »rl-| n H the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased S f*ro ifcft »rnm | fa. v r i ^r*reft t * to state: r t> %mi s*n* $ i|»n 1 (a) whether with a view to boostirg ( * ) ffPfTTCT WSTRflf *% f%5 ^ up the production of jute in the country *nm fN-aff^a- ^ ^ 1 1 Government have thought it desirable to refix the‘^procurement price and galvanise New Security Paper Mill near village its machinery to ensure that the entire crop Kotali (Gujarat) is procured through Goverrment agency and the cultivators are not forced to make 1074. SHRI FATES IKGHRAO distress sale to private procurers) and GAEKWAD : Will the Minister of (b) if so, the facts there of and the steps FINANCE be pleaded to state: taken to boost up production of jute ? {a) whether the Central GovernmeIU had decided to locate a new Security THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Paper Mill near village Kotali about 8 km. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI from Baroda; and- VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) T, * and [(b). Statutory minimum price for (b) if so, is there any move to shift the 1976-77 iute season has been fixed by the proposed location ? Government at Rs. 135/- per quintal for Assam bottom variety in the up-country THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE markets. The Government have requested MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI the Jute Corporation of India to ensure SHUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) and (b). by price support operations that the prices Yesj Sir. do not go down below the statutory level. Availability of funds will not be a cons- Import of vegetable oil traint this year in respect of price support operation of the Jute Corporation of India. 1075. SHRI B. R. SHUKLA: Will Intensive Jute District Programme has the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased been introduced by the Government for to state: boosting up production of jute. r (a) whether any vegetable oil has been Formation of Company in the field of imported into India during the current non«caaential itema year; and 1077. DR. RANEN SEN: (b) if to, its quantity and the countries SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: from which it has been imported ? Will the. Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY 'OF COMMERCE (SHRI (a) whether Government have allowed VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) formation of 1 new comp«ny in the field of and (by. According to the provisional sta- consumers ^ non-essential. item£ on * the tistics amiable, about 24,000 tonnes of basis of 4a:6o foreign equiiy iformula; vegetable oils have been imported from, and Indonesia and Brazil during the current financial year todate. (b) if »o, the salient features thereof ? Wrtttmv Anmxmt SRAVANA 29, 18fi8r (SAKA) Written Answers 50 THIS MINISTER OF FINANCE takipg any. action against the companies (SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM): (a) and(b). does not therefore arise at this stage. In the absence of the name of the com- Foreign Investment in India ^ / pany which the Hon’ble Members have 1079. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : Will in view, it is difficult to give a specific the Minister of FINANCE' be pleased to reply. However, Government’s policy to- state ; wards* allowing private foreign invevtment (a) whether2eading industrialists, bankers in new Indian companies is highly selective. and businessmen in West Germany, Foreign equity participatioi. is not permit- the USA and Britain believe that under the ted in a new company to be established for stability, national discipline and drive crea- the productior of non-priority consumer ted by the emergency, India can become items. If there is any substantial export not only a strong but one of the economically orientation in the proposal, such a case strongest countries in the world; is considered on merits. Also, in terms of (b) if so, whether they are ready and eager the Guidelines on Section 29 of the FERA to go on large scale investment in 1973 a branch of a foreign company en- India on a mutually beneficial basis; And gaged in non-essential consumer products (c) if so, the reaction of Government would be required to convert itself into an thereto? Indian company with non-resident in- THE MINISTER CTF FINANCE terest of 40 per cent.' (SHRI a SUBRAMANIAM) : (a) to (c). Government have taken note Reduction in foreign equity by multi of the favourableJ response and apprecia- national compaaki tive references made in certain business cir- 1078. SHRI B, S. BHAURA: cles abroad to the economic situation in the SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU: Will country after the Emergency. Investment the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to proposals, as and when received, will be -state; considered in terms of the present policyx (a) the names of the multi-national governing foreign investment. companies operating in India which have Dry Port in Delhi reduced their equity share capital to 40 1080. SHRIMATI ROZA DESH- per cent; PANDE : Will the Minister of COM- (b) the particulars of the companies MERCE be pleased to state: which are yet to do that; and (a) whether Government have decided (c) the action taken against them ? to set up dry port in Delhi; THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (b) whether Government have taken a (SHRI. C. SUBRAMANIAM): (a) to(c). decision on the location thereof; and * As on 31st July, 1976,55 foreign companies, (c) if so, the main features thereof? as per statement A laid,on the Table of, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the House, [Placidxin Library. Set No. MINISTRY* OF COMMERCE (SHRI LT— 11163/76],, have reduccd, their non- VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : * t resident interest, to 4Q%. In respect, of (a) It has been decided in principle to 138 foVeigi^companies, as per Statement B, set up a D*y Port. laid on the Table of, the House, [placed (b) The location of the Dry Port is; yet in Library. S$e No. LT-^i 1163^76], the to be decide^* Reserve ttynkof India has givenapproval (c) Does not arise. u) continue their activity subject to dilution to 40 per cent.* Besides, in a'number of of Ecanomic Aid from cases,"letters of intent have been issued to Canada foreign companiesrcqtafiftgthemtodilute 1081. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- hoftwfealdent interest to* 40 per cent THAM : Will the MtfustctQf KINANCE withinr a specified period. *hic question of be pleased to state whether the Government VT ■' ] ,r i 51 Written Answers AUGUST 20, 1976 Written Answers ! of Canada are likely to resume economic aid AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to to India which was suspended about two state: years ago? (a) the names of the hotels run by India THE MINISTER OF FINANCE Tourism Development Corporation, State- (SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM) : Following wise; and India’s peaceful nuclear experiment on 18th (b) the names of the hotels which have May, 1974, the Government of Canada sus- shown profits during the last two years ? pended aid to India in the field of nuclear THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE energy development, but continued aid un- MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL der agreements already signed in respect of AVIATION : (SHRI SURENDRA PAL other fields. Since then, fresh Canadian aid SINGH) : authorisations have been limited to food, (a) A statement giving the requi site in- fertilizers and agricultural sectors. Go- formation is attached. vernment has received no information indi- (b) Ashoka Hotel, Akbar Hotel, Janp ath cating that Canada will resume aid in other Hotel, Lodhi Hotel and Qutab Hotel all in fields. New DelM earned profits during both * Hotels Run by I. T. D. C. the years, 1974-75 and 1975-76. In addi- tion, Ashoka Hotel, Bangalore earned profit 1082. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD during 1974-75 and Ranjit Hotel, New Delhi VERMA : Will the Minister of TOURISM earned profit during 1975-76. Statement Statc-vrise distribution of the hotels run by India Tourism Development Corporation. State Union Territory Name o fiK T hotel Delhi Ashoka Hotel, New Delhi Delhi • Akbar Hotel, New Delhi. Delhi . Hotel Janpath, New Delhi. Delhi . Lodhi Hotel, New Delhi Delhi . Hotel Ranjit, New Delhi Delhi Qutab Hotel, New Delh i Karnataka Hotel Ashoka, Bargalore Karnataka Lai it ha Mahal Palace Hotel* Mysore Maharashtra - Aurangabad Hotel, Aurargabad Madhya Pradesh KhajuTaho H< tel, Khjturaho Rajasthan Laxmi Vilas Palace Hotel, Udaipur Uttar Pradesh Varanasi Hotel, Varanasi West Bengal . Airport Hotel, Calcutta Kerala . Kovalam Hotel, Kovalam Bihar Hotel Patliputra, Patna Review of Development Programmes THE MINISTER OF STATE by 1J )J J . IN CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI 1083. SHRI RAGHUNANDAN LAL PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : (a) BHATIA : Will the Minister of REVENUE to (c). The Industrial Development AND BANKING be pleased to state: Bank of India (IDBI) has been actively exploring areas and manner in which it can (a) whether the Industrial Development contribute more effectively to the rapid in- Bank of India is having a second look at its dustrial growth of the country. Some of the industrial finance and development pro- steps taken in this connection briefly are— grammes; (i) The refinance scheme of IDBI has (b) whether several new schemes hav e been liberalised to provide for waiver> already been formulated by the Bank in this where necessary, of the requirement context; and regarding promoters’ contribution in ( c) if so, the salient features thereof? the case of transport operators receiving ' ?*: * ■ ■ <1^*- 1 4 53 Written Answers SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers national permits and projects difficulties arising out of short crops in Tan- sponsored under the Half a zania and Mozambique and a wide disparity Million Job Scheme. in the price demanded by these countries (ii) In order to encourage quality con- and the prices considered economic by the sciousness in small scale industry the Cashew Corporation of India agreements ^ IDBI has decided to grant i j2 per cent have now been concluded both with Tanzania rebate in the interest rate to small and Mozambique for imports out of the last scale units receiving ISI mark and to crop. The supplies for 1976-77 crop are provide ioo per cent refinance for the expected to be timely this year in view of an purchase of testing and quality control understanding reached in this regard with equipment. Tanzania which is the ma n supplier. (iii) The IDBI has announced a scheme for Indo*Polish Air Agreement concessional finance to the cement, 1085. SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR sugar and certain engineering SINGH : Wll the Minister of TOURISM industries. . A separate announcement AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to stater in respect of cotton textile and jute (a) whether an air agreement between industry will follow. This scheme is Indian and Polish Governments was expected to take care of the modernisa- signed recently ; ard r tion/replacement requirements of (b) if so, the broad outlines thereof ? these industries on soft teims. THE MINISTEROFTOURSM AND (iv) The IDBI has issued guidelines to CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ State Financial Corporations for pro- BAHADUR) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. Accor- viding seed capital assistance from ding to the agreement reached, Air India will their special class of share for assis- be entitled to operate two services per week tance by way of equity or soft loan to through Warsaw' or Gdansk in Poland. towards meeting the gap between Reciprocally, the Polish airline, LOT will the normal expected level of the pro- be entitled to operate two services per week moter’s contribution and actual to'thr ugh India, out of which at least one amount that the promoter can contri- service will be operated to through Calcutta, bute on his own. and the other to through Bombay or Delhi. (v) With effect from ist July, 1976 the Hand loom Industry Plan for Tamil limit of assistance under the Bills Nadu Rediscounting Scheme has been 1086. SHRI SAROJ MUKHERJEE: increased from Rs. 50 lakhs to Rs. 100 SHRIMATI PARVATHI lakhs. KRISHNAN: Agreements w 1th foreign countries Will the Minister of COMMERCE be for import of raw cashewnuts pleased to state: 1084. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI (a') the main characteristics of six crore THANKAPPAN : Will the Minister of rupees handloom industry plan for Central COMMERCE be pleased to state: Goverrment for Tamil Nadu; (a) whether any fresh agreements have (b) the measures taken to complete ex- been entered into by the Cashew Corpora- port-oriented projects at Erode and Kanche- tion of India with African or other foreign epuram (Tamil Nadu) and when will these countries for import of raw cashewnuts; and projects begin work; and (b) the steps Government have taken to (c) the number of weavers to be employ- speed up the negotiations and ensure early ed in these projects and the benefits they Will get When the plan begins to be imple- agreements ? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE mented ? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. After initial '' 55 Written Answers AVGUST 2 0 /19?6 Written Answers jfi and (b). As part of the Special Central Rural Banks) ‘ were 7416. Besides, the Plan Schemes far handloom development, Regional Rttral Banks have opened i i j one intensive development project and one branches by July 1976. The names of expert production project have been ap- places are not given as it is* a large number proved by the Central Government for being and may not1 be commensurate to the set up in Tamil Nadu. The intensive results. development project is in Erode and (b) The training programme drawn up Kancheepuram* and the export production by the Reserve Bank of India and approved project in Karur. The total outlay on these by the Government of India on the recom- projects, including institutional finance* is mendations of the ^Steering Committee on estimated at Rs. 6 crores over a period of Regional Rural Banks has laid special five year*—Rs. 5 crores for the intensive emphasis on the implementation of the development project and t Rs. 1 crore for 20-Point Economic Programme in so far * export production project. Work on these as these banks are concerned. projects has been started. (c) The intensive development project (c) To meet the credit requirements of will cover 10,000 looms and the export the maximum number of poor rural people production project will cover 1000 looms. in the shortest possible time, it has been The weavers are expected to be ensured decided to channelise credit through multi- continuous employment and their earnings purpose credit societies/Farmers* Service are expected to go up by about 25% by the Societies, in addition to purveying direct end of the project period. credit to these people by Regional Rural Banks. To ensure that maximum number Opening of Branches of Banka In Rural of rural people become members of such Areas societies, the State Governments have been 1087. SHRI R. K.SINHA: advised to introduce universal membership SHRI P.M. MEHTA: by legislative action. Will the Minister of REVENUE & BANKING be pleased to state: (4) The officers and staff of Regional (a) the total number of branches of rural Rural Banks are initially drawn from the banks so far opened in the country along- sponsor banks and no cases of hesitation with the names of places where these or refusal referred to in the Question have branches of rural banks are located; been reported. (b) the measures taken by Government to train high ranking officers of the banks Scheme to Attract Tourists to Betla in regard to implementation of 2o-Point National Park Economic Programme so that they could 1088. SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH: serve in rural areas of the country; Will the Minister of TOURISM & (c) the steps taken to ensure that the CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: benefits of rural banking are given to a maximum number of persons; and (a) whether there is any scheme under (d) the steps proposed to be taken against the consideration of Government to popu- those officers of the banks who hesitate or larise Betla National Park and Tiger refuse to serve in rural areas when they are Project nationally and intrnationally to paid aiiigh salary ? attract more tourists, especially from THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- abroad; and* } CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT QF (b) if so, the broad outlines thereof? REVENUE & BANKING (SHRI PRA- NAB KUMAR MUKHKRJEE): (a) As at THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the end of Maseh 1976 (latest availably), MfNlSTRYOF TOURISM XMOClVtt. the number of rural branches of scheduled AVIATtoN (SHR*’ SlflUBNDRA PAL commercial banks (excluding Regional SINGH): ‘ '(«) and (b) There is no scheme Written 'Answers SRAVANA 29,1608 (SAKA) Written Answers 5 & at this stage * tinder’ the consideration of B*port of Finished leafher Government to popularise Betla National 1090. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD Park to attract more tourists. MANDAL: Will the MINISTER OF As far as Project Tiger is concerned, it COMMERCE beplefcsed to state: is a Conservation Scheme which is rehabi- (a) whether there has been big increase litating the disturbed habitat and dwindled in the export of finished lesther in recent population of Tigers and other wild months; and animals. The Betla National Park which (b) if so, the quantity cf finished leather is a part of the Tiger Reserve Palamau exported and target fixed for the current could be popularised after the habitat is financial year ? improved and the Tiger population is subs- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI tantially increased. VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. Institute of Tourism and Travel (b) Export of Finished Leather during Maoagmmant 1975-76 amounted to Rs. 54.83 crores as against Rs. 30*56 crores during 1974-75* 1089. SHRI VARKEY GEORGE: Will A tentative targetof Rs. 100 crores has been the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL fixed for the current financial year. AVIATION be pleased to state: Findings of the study about the (a) whether there is a scheme to set up Working of controlled cloth scheme an Institute of Tourism and Travel Management ; 1091. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be (b) if so, the main features thereof; and pleased to state: (c) the progress made so far in this (a) whether a study was made of rthe regard ? working of the controlled cloth scheme and its distribution system; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the findings thereof; MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL (c) whether Textile mill-owners have AVIATION (SHRI SURENDRA PAL deliberately sabotaged the scheme for SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. A proposal is distribution of controlled cloth; and under consideration of the Government. (d) whether the office of the Textile Commissioner carried out any checks about (b) The Institute is planned to offer, to the production and distribution of control- begin with, in-service Executive Divejop- led cloth ? ment Programmes for personnel already THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE employed at different managerial levels in MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI the Tourism Industry; it will also offer con- VISWANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) to sultancy and research facilities; and develop (d). The operation of the controlled cloth a documentation centre. The Institute scheme has been kept under constant Will also offer a two-year post-graduate review both on production and distribution Programme for meeting the future require- aspects. Wherever necessary, changes in ments of trained personnel for servicing the the varietal production obligations and in different segments of the Tourism Industry. the mechanics of distribution j are made.. Surprise and intensive checks are made (c) The in-service Executive Develop- by the Textile Commissioner to ensure e r Programmes will be started as soon quality of production and smooth and as necessary clearance has been given to purposeful distribution of controlled cloth. the scheme, and subjcct to the availability Tttere has been no sabotaging of the >f funds. controlled doth scheme. .59 W ritten Answers AUGUST 20, 1976 Written Answer* ’ 60 Voluntary Disclosure of wealth In % PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): (a) Karnataka to (c). During 1975-76, 29,656 raid* were 1092. SHRI S. B. PATIL: Will the carried out by the Custom* Department to Minister of REVENUE AND BANK- recover smuggled goods or incriminating ING be pleased to state the num- documents and to apprehend the persons ber of persons in Karnataka who have concerned with them. In these raids items voluntarily disclosed their wealth under the like wrist watches, textiles and other mis- Voluntary Disclosure Scheme and the cellaneous luxury goods valued at Rs. 3-47 amount of wealth-tax realised from them ? crores were seized. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- T*ie seized g ^ a ar^ preceded against CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF for their confiscation fn accordance with law. REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI Enquiry against Indian Airlines’ PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): crew According to information presently avail- able, in the charges of Commissioners of 1095. SHRI P. GANGA REDDY: Income-tax, Karnataka, 583 declarations in Will the Minister of TOURISM AND respect of voluntarily disclosed wealth CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to were made under section 15(1) of the state: Voluntary^ Disclosure of Income and Wealth (a) whether Indian Airlines’ crew on Act, 1976; w.'alth-tax collected being over Kithmindu-Drlhi flight were recently Rs. 25 lakhs upto 31st July, 1976. charge-sheeted for fuel shortage; and Setting up of a Central Flying (b) if so, the results of the enquiry against School the crew? 1093. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: THE MINISTER OF TONRISM AND Will the Minist r cf TOURISM AND d V I L AVIATION (SHRI RAJ BAHA- CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: DUR): (a) and (b). Tw> crcw members (a) whether Government propose to set viz. the Aircraft Maintenance Egninccr on up a central flying school in the country; duty or board the aircraft and the Comman- and der of the Flight IC-414A on the sector (b) if so, when ? Kathmandu/Delhi on 7th January' 1976, were charge-shectcd. The report of the THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND Enquiry Officer against the Aircraft Main- CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ BAHA- tenance Engineer is under cor side ratior of DUR): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. Tnc matter the ompttert authority. The enquiry is under consideration of the Government. against the Commander has not yet con- Raids by Customs Department to cluded. Apprehend Smugglers Exports of Coca Cola Export 1094. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will the Corporation Minister of REVENUE AND BANK. 1096. SHRI BHALJIBHAI PARMAR: ING be pleased to state : Will the Minister of COMMERCE I* (a) the total number of raids carried out pleased to jstate reasons for the drop ip by the Customs Department to apprehend exports ofCoc-i Cola Export Corporation ? smugglers during 1975-76; (b) the particulats of items seized and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE total value thereof; and MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (c) how were they disposed of ? VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): No THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- information is available with Govcrnmcrit CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF which indicates the reason for the fall HE VENUE AND BANKING (SHRI exports of this corporation. I v v Written Answers SRAVANA 29, 180ft (SAKA) Written Answers 6 Z i; - i r 5 P'' " : , 1 Cost Accounts and Monitoring THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND V ; Organisation ‘r;’ CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ BA- 1097. SHRI SUBODH HANSDA : HADUR) : (a) to (c) . Four sites at Will the Minister of COMMERCE bs pleas- Edakattuvayal, Poothotta, Mayithera and ed to state whether his Ministry has any Perumbalam were considered for possible Cost Accounts and Monitoring Organisa- construction of a new civil aerodrome. In tion in order to scrutinize claims of cash respect of first two sites heavy cost is assistance and import replenishment by involved in cutting, filling and removal of exporters ? obstructions and structures standing thereon. The choice of site is between THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Mayithera and Perumbalam. The ques- MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI tion of constructing a new civil aerodrome VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : near Cochin has been deferred for the Exporters prefer claims for the grant of present. The existing Naval aerodrome cas’i assistance and import replenishment is being developed to make it suitable for to the port Licensing Authorities of tfe Boeing 737 operations. Office of the Chief Controller of Imports and Exports. These claims arc based on the predetermined rates notified by the Go- Decision on application under vernment. For claiming thes' facilities, F.E.R.A. in case of Foreign exporters have to furnish the following do- Companies cuments :— (a) shipping bill authenticated by the 1099. SHRI BHALJIBHAI PARMAR : Customs authorities; Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state : (b) invoices duly attested by the banks; and (a) whether Government have taken decision in respect of pending applications (c) bank certificate in support of realisa- of M/s. Coca Cola Export Corportion and tion negotiation of sale proceeds. other foreign companies under Sections The claims of the exporters ere duly 28 and 29 of Foreign Exchange Regulation scrutinised in detail by the Licensing Au- Act, 1973; and thorities, who arc adequately equipped (b) if so, salient features there of ? and experienced in this type of work, before the s .me are admitted. A sample THE MINISTER OF FINANCE test check by the audit authorities is also (SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM) : (a) and undertaken after the claim has been settled. * (b). Out of 860 applications received by the Reserve Bank of India under Section Cochin Aerodrome 29 of the Foreign Exchange Regulation Act for continuing to carry on existing 1098. SHRI A .K . GOPALAN: activities in India, the Bank has so far dis- SHRI C. H. MOHAMED KOYA: posed of 572 applications in accordance with the guidelines issued for administra- Will the Minister of TOURISM AND tion of Section 29 of FERA 1973. CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state : Out of 1521 applications received under (a) whether final selection of site for Section 28, the Reserve Bank c f India have Cochin Aerodrome has been made; so far disposed of 456 applications. (b) if so, the broad outlines thereof ; and The remai ning applications, including those of Coca Cola Export Corporation, (c) if not, the reasons for delay ? are being processed by the R.B.I. 63 W ritten Answers § AUGUST 20, 1976 r Written Answers Report of Export Committee having ‘nil* holdings, or with holdings on Consumption Credit to measuring 0*01 to 0*50 acre would need in ^ ural Poor pure consumption credit as distinct from noo. SHRI VASANT SATME : production credit. The next higher class SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN : of rural population viz., those possessing Will the Minister of REVENUE AND land above o- 50 acre but hot more than 5 BANKING be pleased to state : acres will also need consumption credit but they would be able to meet their con- (a) whether the Expert Committee on sumption credit needs from the general consumption credit to rural poor has sub- production credit availed of by them from mitted its report to Government; the cooperative^ structure and the commer- (b) if so, what are its important recom- cial banking setcor including the Regional mendations; and Rural Banks. (c) the steps taken to implement the 2. The Committee felt that by streng- recommendations of the Committee ? thening the cooperative credit structure and by determined attempts by the commercial THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- banks including Regional Rural Banks, CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT the bulk of consumption credit require- OF REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI ment of the latter class should be looked PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): after by the production credit system in (a) Yes, Sir. operation at present. In order to fulfil (b) A statement is enclosed. this role, the Committee has stressed that die measures already prescribed by the (c) Pursuant to the recommendations Reserve Bank of India to strengthen the of the Committee, the Union Finance cooperative credit structure, including Minister held discussoins with Chief Mi- universal 1 sat ion of membership should be nisters of certain States at a meeting held implemented without any delay. on 16th June, 1976, among others, on the financial implications of the recommenda- 3. On the basis of the general experi- tions of the Expert Committee and the meas- ence, as to the level of borrowings of the ures to be taken to strengthen the cooperative groups of people having land ‘nil* holdings credit structure in the country. The and holdings upto o- 50 acre, the Committee Central Governm nt also consulted the has recommended the following purposes Reserve Bank of India on the recommenda- for which pure consumption credit apart tions concerning them. Pending Govern- from production loan should be given and ment's formal decisions on the recommenda- also the ceilings of such loans : tions of the Committee, most of the public • Ceiling sector banks have formulated schemes for Type of loan ofloan fixed at expanding consumption credit to the rural poor. The Regional Rural Banks have 1 2 3 also been allowed to extend consumption Rs. credit as a part of production credit for (a) Medical expenses relating to borrowers and members of meeting the medical and educatioral needs theiT families . 250 of the rural poor. Statement (b) Education expenses for sch- ool .... 100 Gist of the important recommendations of (c) Marriage expenses 250 the Expert Committee on Consumption Credit. (d) Expenses on funeral ceremo- nies as well as birth cere- 75 The Committee concluded that the monies . lowest stratum of the village community <5 Written Answers SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) * Written Answers 66 resources of the State Governments. But i a 3 since the State Governments may find it difficult to mobilise this amount, the Committee has recomtneaded that the (c) Expenses on religious cere- Rs. ottoities which are deeply State Governments and the Central Go- tooted and considered ines- vernment should enter into immediate capable by certain sections of society . . . 75 dialogue for the purposes. , 9. For the Tribal areas the Committee has recommended that State Governments 4. The Committee has computed the should straightaway open fair price shops total requirements of pure consumption through their Forest and other concerned ^credit for the first year of the rural folk Departments in the areas where tribals having ‘nil* holdings or holdings measur- conglomite and where the large Multi- ing 0*01 to 0*50 acre and placed at Rs. purpose Societies cannot be formed imme- 370/- crores. diately. 5. Toe Committee has expressed the definite view that the primary agricultural 10. As there is a high degree of risk credit societies organised into viable units, involved in extending pure consumption farm'rs’ service societies, large sized credit to the classes of people envisaged, m’llti-purpose societies in the tribal areas, a risk margin assistance limited to 10% will be the b^t suited agencies to handle of the total quantum of loans advanced the business of providing consumption for consumption purposes should be •credit to the various categories of tlw rural given to tae lending institutions. The community. liabilities of the risk fund should be bom equally by the Central Government and 6. Out of Rs. 170 crores, the cooperative the State Govern menu. societies would take care of consumption credit requirements to the extent of Rs. 11. To solve the twin problem of 70 crores only. Tftis has been recom- provision of employment and collection mended on the basis that only those primary of consumption loans, the Commitee has agricultural credit societies as have full- recommended that on the model of the time paid secretaries should alone be Schcme introduced by the .Maharashtra entrusted with the responsibility of ex- Government, the other State Govern- tending consumption credit. ments should also workout for recovery 7. Tnough no specific am ount has been of consumption loans from the wages of assessed to be provided through commer- the loanees working on such programmes. cial and Regional Rural Banks, the Com- mittee has recommended that these banks Import & Export of raw materials^ should provide consumption credit to their by Foreign Drug Companies clientele on the lines recommended for cooperatives. Tne Banks should also 1101. SHRI NANUBHAI N. PATEL : go ahead with their programme of organis- SHRI K. S. CHAVDA : ing Farmers* Service Societies or liable Will the Minister of REVENUE AND^ multi-purpose societies in order to supple- BANKING be pleased to state : ment the efforts on the cooperatives. (a) whether Government are aware that 8. The remaining ‘grey* areas in the foreign drug companies are indulging in country which would account for the ^ re- practice of over-invoicing ancj under- naming Rs. 100 crores has been recom- invoicing in the matter of import and mended to be met out of the budgetary export of raw materials ; and 1506 LS—3. 67 Written Answers AUGUST 20, 1976 Written Answers 6Sfc ' ' M' - ' ' $■ ; < (b) if so, action proposed to be taken to National Jute Corporation to take over and remedy the malpractice ? run the closed and sick jut? mills ;and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- (b) if so, Government’s rerction thereto? CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THET PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): (a) MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI and (b\ Specific cases of under-jivoidrg VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : or over-invoicing of imports and exports (a) Yes, Sir. by foreign drug companies whenever noticed are fully investigated and are (b) There is no propose 1 at present to dealt with in accordance with the pro- set up a National Jute Corporation. visions of Law. Joint Venture Projects in Singapore 1102. SHRIMATI PARVATHI 1104. sft r*r : wm KRISHNAN: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state : (a) whether Government have offered (t ) ?o sn fq r wrrjfTnr i* all possible assistance to Singapore to develop joint venture projects in high tech- ir 3 T THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE j IT | ? MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) and (b). The Gavrmnmt delegstior*. m ” (*fr UTnr ctrrr *r*t sr?) : during its recent visit to Singapore, in (=p) * 5PFT % TTsft'T its meetings with Singapore authorities, had generally discussed the question of ^ IT ^ ri:, ffrefar closer economic Co-operation, ard had i- fa u > *pf? tft 3<7*frir O also referred tothi possibility of setting up trrfspr it ^tt of Indian joint ventures including tho>e tV jrWnff’ | 1 rk £ t involving sophisticate d technology. sftr *fr*TTfor* ?:ftnr ir^rf Tae setting up of joint ventures abroad vnfH %f»am *rrfa *?t faffr?*n- nfc by Indian entrepreneurs would be in wr??Rr?rmt yn accordance with the established policy and general Guidelines. % f^TT IcTPPT w sfw sm H Take over of closed Jute Mills in f t 3TT % I «rrTfftir fT 7* I* 1103. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : # srnrftrc i'far ^yr wf*rf?r ^ Will the Minister of COMMERC: ?r, ?m tnrrnft be pleased to state : I *K«Tt ^ft, tra -frfa * v 10 srfrror (a) whether his attention has beet xw, 3^ 'n r w wr*rf?T drawn to the statement of 14th July, i w i fa^*ra?t *T*nr 5trfErf^nr rftm 250 1976 by the Labour Minister of Wes' w m % f f f a * n £ t £engal suggesting establishment c f k 1 go written Answers SHAVANA 29,1898 (SAKA) Written Answers 7< ■■ ■ -* s r ■ w ■ ’ ■ (w) ‘V ’ (V . Import of Raw Cashewnuts w?Tfrrfa?r ^pt »rr«r srrfc 1106. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN: qr m *rs* I; fair % ^ H K W W iq jft- ?> ?f i f a x tft, (a) whether anticipated imports of raw cashewnuts will be very low this year as •t'pp ?rnps ^ m ^rr% farcer compared to the imports of the last year it? (ir) wrowra * sfarc **r wnrrff _jfV »rf ^ * r t ?twt v n v n ff v t *rnr ir ntsf 4rs . ~r srf?m?T * f * f f i '• .•••*»*$«•ms* T" W,-.» ik> grpi T 3 7,0 00 ( * ) w r ^ (*r) (a) whether in Gujarat State the fruits focpft m^T ir ^ ^tt qTw fw of nationalisation of Banks have not reached *rm $ ? die villages and the number of branches opened in the Gujarat State are much less vr*r&t *r*Twr * -^?^> («ft as compared to other States; and faWTH^HVfcE): (*) WTTTrT farfa (b) the staeps being taken to open more f t iffovn > *TC f ^ f f * f 1j$ WTrT branches in the State? fr o > sre *> 3*fr srafa- ^ r t t tT*rw*r 5 . 7 srfir»RT «r* »r$ ^ i THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ( 9 ) *R4>IT % 575T*«tTT tfftwftr REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI §arc% « f^ 2 sma- PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) s (a) and (b). In the post nationalisation period, m s m z K f ^t 'B«?rr f ^ r $ i the commercial banks, particularly the m m * v n ft^ r, i f * t ararrPr^rr, *f f^ m , public sector banks, have made a conscious m>nTf^rPT, f r f f , ^^r=r, effort to open larger number of offices in Vrfr ^®ff fa* 3TPT *T f^TT % | underbanked areas and in rural centres. As a result, the commercial banks have (it) ?f |T WFTit if ftI Vt mrW achieved a sizeable expansion of their f r i t * t y f e ft *rp- fafTT branch network in Gujarat, particularly in rural areas of the State as will be seen from ^m^*T * t it * «qrmr ifawr q?# the data reported by the Reserve Bank of *r=r 7?t $ i India set out below: Ason Ason Increase in offices 19-7-69 June 30* between 19- 7-1969 1976 and June 3°> J976 “ No- Percen- tage 126 Number of offices of commercial banks f 753 1711 953 179 Of which offices at rural centres 233 651 41S g Written Answers.. SHAVANA 29, 1898 OSAKA) Written Answers 74 -A / The average population per bank office in Gujarat wh ch was 34,cco cn the eve of 1 ( n) • f* ...wwnff.vr bank nationalisation stands reduced to • in? ^ f ^ f t ^rrerr^r wnr ste 16,000 as on June 30, 1976 as against the t t w i t 1 National average per tsnk cffice of 26,cco. ‘ \ ' Reserve Bank of India have also xcjcitcd Closure US H U tm ii Robber Fd«& that as at the end of June, 1976, 132 *tkt- J Fictorfe* ments/licences were ptndrfc *nh the ccfii- m i . SHRI VAYALARRAVI: Will the mcrcial banks for opening new (flfces in Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to Gujarat. state: (a) the total nttfrfber of natural rubber ftisff fmr vr TUjfttfyn wirf foam £Ktories closed during the last thtee K m w years both in large scale and small scale sectors and the reasons for fhefr closure; 1110. *fV TOT T T 1 W # (b) whether Government are awa re that «rVr f firm f T T * 3 $ the rubber growers in Kerala are aflfected f a : due to the resultant loss in consumption of natural rubber; and (wr) f a W f *r TPsfhTTrT # VTT9Tq^!rt«P?t 'TK f « T T | % fiX (c) if so, die steps Government propose *r T fe n r e N ^imr t t ^ to take in this regard ? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI |*j) Tj ii5) ^ VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) (a) ?n»sn ^ ^ ^ t ^ to (c): The information is being collected 5TWT frr RftTT TOT I ; STtt and will be placed on the Table of the House. (»t ) t o t TH^hr tftfr ^ f*^ff *r vnhxT f «ft srrenj If stt * m r Import of Raw Materials for ^ ^TT «nwr I ? Polyenrathene Foam r r * - • t i h w fa *r f a * r if * * r c t 1112. SHRI VAYALARRAVI: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to ^ if r * 7 6 Written Answers * AUGUST 20,* 1976 r& \ > .76 ‘ * *V ‘ * - THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ■*nar wN i 3 w (b) Natural rubber latex cannot be use ( 5 ) w t srff or manufacture of polyeurathene foam. ?r«rr nrfe * smnmr % s t t 't (c) Does not arise. *Tnr^rr r^rr TfT t ; Xtlt (>r) tot n w n ; t frr wivm *rft wk 3r*PH srrwr-ff 3RPT | ? 1113. Tfo WflF*€V^rTTTU^ : TT^p^r %((K if v n fw^m v sr^ tV *ut mfani *r*t q? fMT t t w (*i\ a*n f«rrr «T*f“ ) : T t 'f fv (fr) no* srirwr n ( * ) w n r m : m % 1975 % %r*r ffr fF*?far k. ?n^r ' ^ l 1 -jqr?r5?r sNrri «r ^•rrr tm n t Vt pt 'frfsrer q-rfsrTrfar % t*ri irrr fw *r5 wf?r«ff x w m vfaf; m si n wn& * r ^fT^lTTrfw 4 0 . 07*ftft?*T*T ( v r t t ) srtr «ft 1 X* % w-Tr^T (Tfr ?fr*fW f * n »fV 1976 cHT 10.13 ( » ) f t =rt $*t «t t fr^ ft mm 5T ^r (b) A statement is attached. (b) if so, the natu-e of vig;lance further (c) No reports of vocations of the Orders envisaged ; and has been reported so far necessitating actual (c) to w.iat exie.it sm idling w 11 be Taking over of cotton by Government. chocked ? Statement THE MINISTER OF STATE IN The following steps have been taken by CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF Government: REVENUE & BANKING (SHRI PRA- NAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): (a) Yes, (i) Inclusion of long staple varieties of Sir. Indian cotton within the limits prescribed for Indian cottons effec- (b)ani (c). The preventive arrangements tive from 21-4-1976. o n the Indo-Nepal border have been placed under the unified control of the Collector Export of Groundnut Oil (b) (0 About 35>ooo coffee estates are xi 17. SHRI ARVIND M. PATEL: un-registered. SHRI VEKARTA : («) An area of 1*58 lakhs acres of Will the Minister of COMMERCE be land have been planted with pleased to state: high yielding disease-resistant (a) whether groundnut oil is being strains since 1950-51 in the two exported; states of Karnataka and Tamil (b) if so, the quantity of groundnut oil Nadu. exported during the years 1974-75 and 1975-76; and (11V) Out of total area of 4*24 lakhs acres under coffee about 2*99 (c) the names of the countries to whom lakh acres are in normal produc- exported ? tion age group i.e. 5—5° Vcars THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE age group. MINISTRY OF COM> ERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) (it?) An area of a out x*20 lakh to %c). Taking into view the edible oils acres are estimated to be avail- situation in the country, groundnut oil is able for farther expansion of not allowed for export. However, in coffee cultivation in existing M a rc h , 1976 Government directed STC coffee holdings in 3 traditional to purchase 5,000 MT of groundnut oil coffee States. as a price support measure. This amount Was exported to U.K. and Netherlands in April, 1976- (c) The valuable information from Apart from this a smaH-quantity of 102 Census wftt provide a statistical ( * ) ^ trrr 3j^ fwf *rtn (b) whether a third level J.C.M* Council, *rr ^ ; has not been formed in the office of fhe_ Controller of Defenoe Accounts, Patna ter (*j) TOT flTfTR ^ ^5=1 m last many years With the Association which commanded majority; *T>JITr #J?TT ^ | ; Wft (c) whether the A t ministration has made administrative involvement in the matter _ (»t ) *rfc ^r, Tt h s t arr? of Service Associations and has harassed TOT $ ? the office bearers of the All India Defence _ Accounts Employyees Associations, Patna Branch since 1971 in one Way or the other; sifam r h ?«» «hrt («ft (d) whether the real cause of the emplo- firs*5*!* jraT«r ftr?r) : ( ,;) t ^ h yees has gone unrepresented, and 3?r>T u t o s p h t gffKf * fatf under the Joint Consultative Machinery Scheme for Central Government employees w ? ^rnft % w hi PrrftfT ^nr are set up not under any rule as such, but W $ :— under a Voluntary Scheme to resolve all issues through joint consultations, or com- pulsory arbitration. Office Councils ( 1) 'TTfT^T *TFT T?f TT (Third Level) deal with purely local issues, faqfa si?*?*> 5?fy *ror 'r- t i but lot individual cases. (b) No, Sir. The Council as duly consti- (2) qrr^rr * ^ 1 i * o tt tuted fuictioned in Patna till 1st June, frwar enrr^r • 1975. F3lloWing representation from the TOTTTcm PnTTHSTRTlf fc fair two recognised Associations in the Depart- ment, Government Have since decided on ^rrc *P7 ft «fnraT * rr, r (d) if so, the number of Class III and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE IV emoloyeei wio volunteered and the MINISTRY OP FINANCE (SHRIMATI reasons for delay in implementing the SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) Yes, Sir, transfers ? (b) No, Sir. (c) Tnere is no proposal to shift the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE office of the C.D.A. Patna to Calcutta or MINISTRYOF FINANCE (SHRIMATI any other plac?. However, there is a pro- SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) No* Sir. posal to transfer a small portion of work at The employees of Defence Accounts De- present done in the office of C.D.A. partment have all India service liability Patna to Calcutta to m *et certain functional .and can, therefore, be transferred to any requirement. place in India. However, Controllers of Defence Accounts, having all India jurisdic- (d) No, Sir. tion, have been instructed to ensure that, as far as possible, transfers of Class III and Class IV staff should be effected on a -zonal basis. Amendment to Central Sales Tax Act TIJ3. SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA: (b) No, Sir. The number is not large compared to the total number of employc- Will the Minister of REVENUE AND be pleased to state: „es in the Department. f ^ BANKING n f / '1 * (a) whether the Government of Kerala (c) Does not arise in view of reply to has urged the Central Government to :part (a)of the question. amccd the Central Salex Tax Act to stop tajt evasion; and .j. • *r.(d) Does not arise in view of reply to (c) above. s (b) if so, the reaction of (Government (c) thereto f i$ Written Answers SHAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA ) Written Answers j > <■ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Loans by Induitrial Development Bank CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT of India to Export Units OF REVNUE & BANKING (SHRI 1125. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): (a) Mi nster of REVENUE & BANKING be aid Trade Contract with U.S.S.R. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN CH\RG2 OF THE DEPARTMENT OF 1124. SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA: R 5 VENUE AND BANKING (SHRI Will the Minister of COMMERCE be PR\NAB KUM\R MUKHERJEE): (a) pleased to state: and (b). Th?re is no proposal with the Industrial Development Bank of India to (a) wh’ther any trade contract or a extend a 1 jin of Rs. 300 crores to export protocol w„s recently concluded with units. U.S.S.R.; and Crop Insurance Cb) if so, the terms 1 nd conditions 1126. SHRI D. D. DESAI: thereof ? SHRI VASANT SATHE: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI to state: VISHWANATH PRVTAP SINGH): (a) aid (b). A Trade Protocol between India (a) whether the G neral Insurance Corporation is preparing a scheme for and USSR covering the period 1976— So crop insurance; and w is signed at New Delhi on the 15th April, 1976. Tne protocol envisages a trade turr - (b) if so, the nuin features thereof? over between the two countries of Rs. 830 cror.*s in 1976 going upto Rs. 930 crores THE DEPUT V MINISTER IN THE in 19S0. In terms of the trade protocol, MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI India is to export to U.S.S.R. non-tradi- SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) Tne General tional goods such as garage equipment, Insurance Corporation is at present exa- auto anrillari's, aluminium power cables, mining a schema for crop insurance drawn stonge bitteries, freight cortainers, wood up by tie Indim School of Political Eco- v.*:ic rs, drugs & pharmaceuticals,chemical nomy, Lonavla. products, in addition to traditional com- (b) Tne m'un features of the scheme m>ii i s like tea, coffee, s pic *s, jute goods recommended by the Indian School of cishew kernels, tobacco, etc. Political Economy are as under:— U.S.S.R. is to supply to India petro- (1) C**op insurance should be linked l ‘un produces, fertilisers sulphur, non- to agricultural credit and all crop f-roas m tah like zinc, Nickel, Platinum loans should be insured.’ Premium aid Palladium, newsprint, asbestos, cotton, should be deducted from the crop sunfl3w *r seed oil,in addition xo michinery loans, and .indemnities paid by a *4 -q^ipji nt and spires and components insurance companies be set off foe Soviet assisted projects. against recovery. 87 ' * Written Answer* AUGUST 20, 1976 Written Answers 8S ,;h' '*■>&: * . * (it) It will be a combined scheme for $ all crops in a year. > Grinnr # vfevr * fiw v t j * (tii) The Scheme tec6mmends area approach as opposed to individual 1128. TT*TT r *TT approach in that if yield is less * iiit m than average yield in an area, all *rrr* yrr^ir f% : insured farmers in that area will get compensation at the same rate, irrespective of an individual's loss. (*) wr/rfo* fatrm % (tv) The Scheme will apply only to Ir (v) Guaranteed yields and premium («r) sf? ft, ?rt ^ irtr rate, which depend upon variations farRT apr $ ; xfa of indices of productlor, will be worked out for each selected area through statistical procedures based on past crop cutting data for the (»r) * 4 1974-75 1975-76 preceding ten years. *r % Tf-TSTT* XTtr 5PTFR TT Pf^rn ser nrrtfrr m s u tr Ccmmon Board of Management for Indian Airlines and Air India 1127. SHRI D. D. DESAI: Will the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: wpt * firmgR irsrw 3 (a) whether a final decision has been r r w *f*V («ft flfar «r** : taken on havir g a common board of (*f ) ( ^ ) . : fa w r management for Indian Airlines and Air fa»r*r % % O tsr f f i H n m z -t? Indife; «rc 104 *t fcnrW ftorr Jr (b) whether this will help to achieve 1 7 f W 1 T, 1972 TT cseoftomies in operation; and foTT «TT I sfa «F?r m o T 1 q r ^ (c) If so, the broad outlines thereof 7 1 40 frrf^T ®nr 5m * r farcr if % fr*Tfar THE MINISTER OF TOURISM f t h w ?nrr fa^nr, r r ^ m AND CIVIL A V U TIO N (SHRI RAJ « n f * K vft fiAHADUR): (a) to (c). There Is no pro- posal under consideration to ha ve « common wifnH $ I Board or Management for IndianAMincs and Air-India. Efforts aw, however, under way to fd M iy aseafe Where there should (» r ) * t t t be greater co-okdfriatYon between the two 1974-75 ooepdrationa, keeping in view overall 1 97 5 - 7V % ffcOf* * WTT”I tKatiofiai interett.^. r W w # fMfc * * 1 * **9 WrUtm Armetrt SBtAVAKA 29, 18*8 (SAKA.) W ritten Answers 90 ^Rpsr f r f 'W W f ?? ^flNi *r#flwr, wffctft wr |hrvhr fiw i «rci | >- m ^ rr % (W» Wff if) ««Fd$t % w w qtfs* fw^r font ¥r *n>*r?!7$#* srf>rfM9 ^r jr% % v fh a 1974-75 1975- 76(*) «TfirfrfcT fo r * % srfffvrf7=rf v t f?foff 3 *4 ^ wfarer wrO arr% -SfrrOT 1 .0 9 1 .2 9 gfroiiflr v t q fr w srrer ^ JWTRsr«r 0.88 1.0 0 ?ptt * r w * TTTPT 14 . 32 13 . 11 Swwif v r^ rs ra re «fr «r«rart w r fa*r 1 jrfiw w qrsqqaff ftp? « 3f jRf vfcwifofi vt srfw r vnhsft % ?rnr 1 1 («r) f * » * ?frr % v t ^rrw «ri?* fwww f*pm % vfaittfrvrf ^ « w «pt aftrr «ft% ferr »r t * Vf «r* 1129. v Mwr * f n : sprr * ( v ) »tr:ct t f & r fk v m Oro* % 1974-75 1 . 37 *f«r*rfrtfr % **f 19 7 3 -74 % fa*T- 1975-76 0 .9 9 ftpT ^Vrr f w X* *pt w t «rc «ffc f*«rr* * t w r ^rm £*rr; «fk ^ *m unrnrm ^ fw i f f r t wj? m m ( * ) *KT jfta «wf * * f'T R ^ v t fan* h t ^ t w t % g*r*wr farr a n t f e ^ r m ^ *p *t t ^q^r«rf *- *'•' . ■«$' r."^' * m r 3 *c <.VvT*t % vrifiw f i «nf m w ? ■ ? $ ■ I: • it- ... ..: .,***. * i Bose Mullick Committee Report on «T«5T * t t ’THTT f a n * * *nft . («ft Jute Industry Tt* Wj^TfT) ; (^) (^l).IFflThfhT * ■< r. 1131. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: fawrcsnrr ?m w?nf?fta- wff'rc: DR. RAMEN SEK: 3ift faiffafT ^»rf ^nrr qfr^rfara q?t SHRI K. K. SANGHI: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be ^rr T ^ r | ^ t mrr v r^ m r inwt f^ q m pleased to state: ^ gfasrrr s >t9 s'ftsu- £i ^ ^ (a) whether the Bose Mullick Committee* appointed to study the problems of jute immmr ^ ^ ^ s: ftTV irdustry has submitted its fir.al report; fa*TR waff WT ’TW/flTHf^T^r^T ^ (b) if so, what are its recommcrdatiors; f^rs=n: ^r% ?pfr srfojn | f m ^ H ;TF>TT «ntwi«{r ffh: *TT9Hff (c) Goverr ment\s dc cision thereon ? *> »ifwmT tft 5*re**rr THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI *&rn * 1 $ V fT77.Tr SHT^ fatr *r t | ft I VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. 3T7 t fpr ?FT7fc?ta fa*?FT er^TT (b) and (c). It will r.ot be in public % fa rre 1 ^nr ft, qt^ ft tF m h r interest to indicate the recommendations jfpR T *T 2 7 .6 7 3FT1? W f H.‘ T foar* of the Committee before a final decision is taken by the Government. * t szRvqT * t ft I faJTT* W* <17 11 ^Tt? ^ T ^ =Tr«H % tp* Loans for joint stock sugar firm* vhti^pt amr wr =mf dw r 1132. SHRI D. K. PANDA: Will the VPHVf % f^rfw %: f^Ttr asfryfjr Minister of REVENUE & BANKING «Tif7 ?ft SRTR apt 7 T ^Ft ft rTTT ^nr be pleased to state: j t t t ut t t f e n *nn ft i (a) whether Government have evolved a new policy for offering term loans for joint stock sugar firms; and ?Frr<«ftV p r t tTfT V fjROT % fair (b) if so, the broad features thereof ? «rhr*t t ? rp*n » n ft fw iH i *>* ’rfr^PTT *rter and(b). The Industrial Development Bank- of India would make available to certain Wr% % f^nr strr «rm % fas?rn: (a) Whether import policy in respect 1975 stT-t 1975 of equipment and raw materials for research ^ ^q-frssr ^ purpose has been further liberalised during ^11, qz?r 'K T^T w 11 current year ; and tT?r € t . - i 1 1 6 5 / 76] (b) if s®5 the salient features thereof " 9 5 Written Anatom AUGUST SO, 107« Written Aiuiotrt 9$ 2 T tiS D ?jr* MimvrdR W ^HS case of units recognised by tibst Depart- MINIST£RY OF COMMERCE (SHRI meat and through the sponsoring autho- VlSHWANTATH PRATAP SINGH). rity in die cue of other*. (a) Yes, Sir. (b) Salient features of the liberalised (3) Technical and research institu- import policy are given in the statement tions, analytical laboratories, inducting attached. colleges and institutions, which are not woogniaed by the Department of Science and Technology and axe . not cover- ed by the provisions mentioned in para x Statem ent above, can also import, for their own use, (1) All research and development in* scientific instruments, equipments and -stitutioas, whether in Government or pri- apparatus, etc., provided the c.i.f. value vate sector, and research and development of tuch goods imported at any one time does units which are recognised by the Depart* not exceed Rs. 5,000/- or Rs. 25,000/- meat of Science and Technology, all in one lot per annum. Government research institutions under Central and State Government, Uivversi- ties, I.I.Ts., including research labora- Special Attention by Trade *ories/in*titutions of Council of Scientific Development Authority to ■and Industrial Research, Indian Coun- Marketa is Weat Asia and cil of Medical Research, and Indian Africa Institutes of Science, Bangalore and Indian School of Mines, Dhanbad and 1136. SHRI P. GANGADEB : Will other similar scientific agencies of the Cen- the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased tral or State Govt., research and /or train- to state : ing institutes under the Central/State (a) whether Trade Development Autho- ■Governments (other than public sector rity is considering to give special atten- undertakings) are allowed to import raw tion to the markets of West Asia and materials, components and spare parts, Africa ; and scientific instruments, equipments, appa- (b) if so, the salient features there- ratus and appliances, etc., upto a value of ? of Rs. 100 lakh per annum without an im- port licence, subject to the condition that THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE the items of raw materials, components MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI -and spares, scientific instruments, etc., VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH;. are requ-red for research and development (a) Yes, Sir. purposes and a declaration to that effect is furnished by the importing research and (b) As far as West Asia is concerned, development units at the time of clearance the Trade Development Authority (T.D.A.) of goods through the customs indicat- plans to carry out country studies in the ing the c.i.f. value of imports already made region. It proposes to send teams to in the same year. These fac Insurance Cover for Export Trade &ystem and machinery is kept under review to Third Countries and such modification as ar cons id r d necessary and feasible are made. 1137. SHRI P. GANGADEB : Will the Minister of COMMERCE he pleas- ed to state : Export Production Centres for Hand- loom Sector' (a) whether the Export Credit and Guarantee Corporation proposes to pro- 1139. SHRI K. MALLANNA : vide insurance cover for export trade to Will the Minister of COMMERCE be third countries; pleased to state the intensive development (b) if so, when will it be implement- projects and export production projects for the handloom sector approved by Central ed; and Government for being set up in different (c) the measures taken to provide parts of the country State-wise, during co-insurance schemes with foreign coun- the current year and the amount of Central tries for Indian turn-key projects to be set financial assistance provided for these up in third countries ? projects ? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH): VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : (a) to (c) . It is in respect of exports 17 intensive development projects and 19 joindy with another country to third coun- export production projects have been tries where need for coinsurance schemes approved by Central Government for being arises. Devising of schemes for insu- set up by various State Governments du-4 rance of such joint export projects to third ring the current year. A statement indi- countries is under active cating the location of the intensive deve- consideration of the Export Credit and lopment and export production proje- Guarantee Corporation. The matter will cts is laid on the Table, of the House. be considered by the Government after [Placed in library. See No. LT— i n 66/ the proposal has been approved by 76]. Excluding institutional finance, the the Board of Directors of the Export outlay on an intensive development pro- Credit Sc Guarantee Corporation. ject is Rs. 1*85 crores and on an export production project is Rs. 40 lakhs over a five-year period. Under the pattern of New Scheme for Distribution of Con assistance for the intensive development trolled Cloth. projects, the Central Government would finance 75% of the total expendi- 1138. SHRI K.M.MADHUKAR : ture incurred on the project during Will the Minister of COMMERCE be the first three years and 50% of the ex- pleased to state : penditure incurred during the remaining (a) whether a new scheme lias been two years. The entire outlay of Rs. 40 evolved for proper distribution of contro- lakhs on an Export production project lled cloth; and will be met by the Central Government. (b) if so, the main features thereof ? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Performance O f Rural Banks. mNISTRT^COMMERCETsHRl" i VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : 1140. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Widl (a) and (b) . No new scheme for the distri- the Minister of REVENUE & BANKING bution of controlled cloth, as such, has be pleased to State : (a) the performance of been evolved. However, the distribution of the Rural Banks in the country ; and 1506 LS— 4 Written Answers AUGUST 20, 1976 Written Answers 100 (b) the number of Rural J Banks imple- want of security or guarantee, if banks arc menting 20-Point Economic Programme and otherwise satisfied on its merits. As and the steps taken therefor ? when any specific complaint is received from an individual for refusal of bank THE MINISTER OF STATE IN-CHAR- credit, the matter is taken up with the con- GE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF RE- cerned bank and where necessary, banks VENUE & BANKING (SHRI PRANAB are also advised suitably. KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : (a) and (b). So far 23 Regional Rural Banks have been The provisional figures of balance out- opened in different parts of the country. standing in December 1975 *n respect of As at the end of June, 1976 19 Regional priority sector advances, advances under Rural Banks established till then mobi- DIR Scheme and Half-a-mil}:on Jobs pro- lised deposits of Rs. 125*85 lakhs and have gramme in Karnataka were Rs. 191* 45 d sburscd Rs. 160* 15 lakhs. The perfor- crores, Rs. 2* 18 crores and Rs. T 79 crores mance report in respect of the remaining respectively. Moreover, after the launching banks opend after June, 1976 is not availa- of the 20-Point Economic Programme, all ble. All these Banks have been instructed the Public Sector banks have formulated to implement the points concerning them various schemes to provide financial assis- under the 20 Point Economic Programme. tance to economically weaker sections covered in the Programme at liberal and Bank Loans to Weaker Sections in concessional terms. Karnataka 1141. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : Will the Minister of REVENUE AND BANK- Development of International Airports ING be pleased to state : 1142. SHRI VASANT SATHE :Will (a) whether ma y a bank in the Kar- the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL nataka State are not coming forward to AVIATION be pleased to state : sanction loans to die weaker sections of (a) whether Government have appro- people like farmers, artisans, scheduled ved the plan for further development of castes and scheduled tribes and unem- international airports in the country ; and ployed youths because no security is provided on behalf of these people ; and (b) if so, the physical contents Of the plan, financial outlay involved and other (b) if so, the steps taken to help these main features of each airport separately ? sections of the society to have the benefits of the 20-point Economic Programme ? THE MINISTER OF TOURISM THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT BAHADUR) : (a) and (b). During the,Fifth OF REVENUE AND BANKING five year plan an outlay of Rs. 27* 67 crores (SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) has been earmarked for the development of (a) and (b) It is not correct to say that international airports. The major schemes/ banks in Karnataka State are not coming projects envisaged indudc {construct ort of forward to sanction loans to the weaker a new International Passenger and Cargo sections of the people, because no security Terminal Complex at Bombay airport at is provided on their behalf. Even since an estimated cost of Rs. 11 crores. A new nationalisation, the commercial banks have terminal complex is being planned and a moved away from the security-oriented cargo complex is being developed at the approach and have adopted purpose- Delhi airport. The existing passenger hand- oriented lending, particularly to the Weaker ling facilities at Madras airport have al- sections. No. viable scheme is rejected for ready been improved at a cost of Rs. 22 01 Written Answers SRAVANA 22, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers 102 lakhs and a new cargo complex is being Year Amount set up at a cost of approximately Rs. 20 (Rs in crores) lakhs. The main runway at Calcutta has 1971-72.*. 4’00 been strengthened to make it suitable for 1972-73:. 2*76 wide-bodied aircraft at a ccst of Rs. 62.97 1973-74:. 2-15 lakhs. 1974-75.*. 2*96 The communication and navigational 1975-76:. 2*80 aids at the four international airports are (c) According to the LIC’s procedure, proposed to be modernised at a cost of where the claimant is not traed in spite Rs. 10 crores. Provisions of Rs. 2* 10 crores of regular follow-up, the claim amount is for purchase of crash fire tenders and Rs. credited to the revenue account after a 1*42 crores for installation of Cat II light- specified period depending on the nature ing for the international airports have of the claim. Similarly, unadjusted pre- also been made. mium deposits are credited to revenue account after 5 years, and other unclaimed Outstanding Deposits WritKt off by amounts (other than policy claims) are I . I.C. credited to the revenue account after 4 years, when there is no response from the 1143. SHRI P. M. MEHTA : Will policyholders. the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (d) No, Sir. to state: Proposal to Boost up Tourism in the Country (a) whether the amount of outstanding 1144* SHRI P. M. MEHTA : Will and unclaimed deposits and other accounts the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL written off by the Life Insurarcc Corpora- AVIATION be pleased to state: tion re ache da high figure during 1974. 75; (a) whether Union Government pro- pose to take some urgent measures to (b) if so, what was the total figure rea- boost up tourism in the country; ched ; (b) whether a two day seminar on the (c) what are the main causes for this; subject was held in New Delhi in the and month of July, 1976; and (c) what were the suggestions made (d) whether Life Insurance Corpora- therein ? tion feels that this is due to the large num- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ber of agents operating in thfe field ? THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH): (a) A statement pertaining THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN to the measures being taken by the Union THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE Government to boost tourism is placed (SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): on the Table of the House. (a) and (b) As would be sten from the following statistics for the left fivr ytarf, (b) and(c). No seminar was organised the amount of outstanding and unclaimed by the Department of Touris m. However, deposits & claims ard othci amounts a two-day Seminar on Tourism was orga- written back to Rt vcr ue Account by LIC nised on July 19 & 20 by a travel magazine. during 1974-75 was lt5s ther that in 1971- The recommendations of the Seminar, if 72 but was marginally higher than those any, have not been received by the Depart- durir g the prcc< ding two years. ment of Tourism so far. 103 Written Answers AUGUST 20, 1976 Written Answers Statement 7. Construction of tourist bungalows, youth hostels, cmpingsites, to cater The Urion Government is taking to the needs of low-in come group necessary measures to boost tourism in tourists. India on the pattern of development initia- 8. Opening of a new tourist office nt ted in the Fifth Plan. The places where Kuwait to promote tourist traffic touris t faci htie$ are propose d to be deve loped from West As.a. under the Central Sector are Gul- nmrg, Kovalam, Goa, Agra, Jaipur, Vara- nasi, Manali, Amritsar, Aurangabad, £le- Repatriation of Funds by Concerns Set phanta, selected Buddhist centres, wildlife by with Foreign Collaboration sanctuaries and places of archaeological importance. 1 *45* SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Willthe Minister of FINANCE be pleased II. Promotioral programme* of the to state : Department of Tourism are continuing processes. The main steps being taken in (a) whether industrial collaborations in this regard are enumerated as follows :— Ir.dia,especially those set up with the assis- tance of the western countries, have made a 1. Extensive advertising publicity ard heavy drain on India's foreign exchange public relations campaign launched reserves; through 16 overseas office?. (b) if so, the facts thereof; and 2. Increased production of tourift pub- (c) what action Government propose to licity literature in foreign languages take to pet a check on it ? including Arabic and Persian and production of tourist documentary films in colour. THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI C SUBRAMANIAM) (a) and 3. ‘Discover India* tickets introduced (b)* As can be seen from the Statement by Indian Airlines and ‘Travel as attached, remittances to Western you like* by Indian Railways. countries on account of industrial colla- borations forma substantial part of the total 4. Relaxation of entry formalities such liability. as issuance of landing permit on arrival valid for 28 days with multiple (c) Government's policy in regard to entry. foreign collaboration continues to be selec- tive. Foreign collaboration is not nor- mally permitted in areas where the requi- 5. Visit of travel industry promotional site technology is indigenously available teams consisting of representatives of except where such a collaboration is inten- Department of Tourism, Air-India ded to promote exports. Indian Airlines, Travel Agents Asso- ciation of India, All India Hotel and Statement Restaurart Federation to important According to the data relating to rc tourist generating market*. mittanccs by foreign companies as piled by the Reserve Bank of Indl*’ 6. Loans for the construction of new payment* on account of profits, « « * » * ■ hotels, ard augmenting of tourist tccfanic*lkr.owt howfecS#r . d r o y » W - ^ transport fleet*. ly attributable to foreign collaborsti 105 Written Answers SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers iq6 the period ending 1973-74 (which are the Export of Calcium Carbide latest figures available) are as shown below. The statement gives the data for all coun- 1147. SHRI RAGHUNANDAN LAL tries as well as for Western countries : BHATIA: Will the Minister of COM MERCE be pleased to state: Rs. in crores) (a) whether Indip, from an importer Ail Western till 1975* has become an exporter of cal- Countries Countries cium carbide; ard 1971-72 . 63-5 56*4 (b) if so, the facts thereof ? 1972-73 • 68*6 62*3 1973-74 ♦ 74*6 65*2 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Jute Workers affected due to VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : Retrenchment in Jute Mills (a) Yes, Sir. 1146. Dr. RANEK SEN. Will the Minis- (b) Imports and exports of calcium ter of COMMERCE be pleased to state: carbide during the last three years have been as follows:— (a) the number of jute workers affec- ted on account of lay-offs, closures and ret- Quantity: Lakh Kg. renchment in jute mill* during 1975 and 1976 Value; Rs. Lakh so far due to shortfall in production of Jute; Imports Exports (b) whether a deputation of A.I.T.U.C. Q. V* Q. V. and L N. T. U. C. met him on 28th June, 1976 in this connection; and 1975-76 . . * . . . 2*6 6*5 1974-75 • • 38*5 H9*o o*i 0*5 (c) if so, the facts thereof? 1973-74 • 20*0 24*8 0*2 0-7 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Export of Silk Goods VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : (a) According to information obtained from 1148. SHRI RAGHUNANDAN LAL the Government of West Bengal, there BHATIA: Will the Minister of COM- was no retrenchment in the jute industry MERCE be pleased to state: in 1975- During the same period, there were lay-offs in 23 units for varying periods (a) whether there has been record due to different reasons. In view of the app- export of silk goods in 1975-76; rehended shorta^ e and consequent need for (b) if so, whether this constitutes one conserving superior varieties of raw jute, of the highest records in recent years; and a limited regulation of production was imposed for two months from June, 1976. (c) the percentage rise in 1975*76 as Production regulation in regard to Car- compared to I974_75 ? pet Backing and Hessian was withdrawn T H E DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE with effcct from 14th July, 1976. This MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI regulation of production is reported not to VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : have affcctcd any permanent or semi- (a) Yes, Sir. permanent workers in the jute industry. (b) Yes, Sir. (b) No, Sir. (c) Docs not arise. (c) 3®% 107 Written Answers AUGUST 20, 1976 Written Answers 108 Tea Auction Centre at Slliguridi Arrests Under COFEPOSA in Bahraich (West Bengal) District II49- SHRI B. R. SHUKLA: Willthe 1151. SHRI R. N. BARMAN: Will Minister of REVENUE & BANKING be the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased pleased to state: to state : (a) Whether any arrests were made (a) whether nearly 50 per cent of the tea grown in West Bengal is now being under COFEPOSA in the district of sold at alow price directly by the distressed Bahraich (U* P,) in tht month of July, growers rather than being brought to the 19 7 6 ; and, auction market; (b) if so,the ract* thereof? (b) whether as a result of the present practice the small producers are losing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN heavily' ; and CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF (c) whether such producers have urged REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI upon the Central Government to set up PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): an auction centre at (Siliguri and if so (a) No, Sir. Government's reaction in this regard ? (b) D'tfs not an sc in view of (a) above. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE CDattterfeit gold deposit case un MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI earthed in State Bank of India VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH, : at Bahraich (UJV) (a) and (b). In i975> about 40% of West Bengal teas Wetc sold ex-garden 1150. SHRI a R . SHUKLA : Will without being sent to auctions. No the Minister of REVENUE AND BANK- statistics of prices for such ex-garvien ING be pleased to state : sales are available. Producers are free to dispose of their tea by any method of dis- (a) whether any loan jWas advanced by the posal either for consumption in India or State Bank of India, Bahraich (U.P.) on for export. The main reason for ex- the basis of gold deposit which was dis- garden sales is that it results in quick covered to be fake and counterfeit; disposal and realisation of sale proceeds (b) the amount of loan advanced; and within a short period as against the time involved in sale through auctions. (c) whether some of the employees Were (c> Some of the producer* have sugges- also involved in the said fraudulent trans- ted the setting up of an auction centre at action ? Siliguri with a view to providing another channel for disposal of teas thus reducing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN the delay in sales and realisation of CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF sale proceeds. Tea Auctions in India REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI are conducted under the rules framed PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : by respective tea traders’ associations (a) State B n k of India has reported in which the sellers, buyers and broker that no loan Was granted by its Bahraich arc members. It is for producers and Branch against pledge of gold ornaments traders to decide about setting up of a w^ich were subsequently found to be new auction centre at any suitable place suprions. having regard to the availability of (b) and (c). Does not arise. necessary infrastructure facilities. Written Answers SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers H o Tea Gardens in We*t Bengal (b) and (c). After the finalisation of the Annual Plan 1976-77* the Govern- 1152. SHRI R. N. BARMAN : Will ment of Bihar had requested the Plan- the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased ning Commission for increasing the ap- to state : proved Plan o utlay by, Rs. 37 crores. (a) Whether at present 9 tea gardens are Having regard to the resources available lying closed and 7 are sick in West Bengal; for sustaining the Plan outlay, it has not and been found possible to agree to this re- (b) if So, Whether Central Government quest. have considered it desirable to take-over them or give assistance to the State Go- Bank Loans for Agricultural Purposes Kerala vernment so that they can be run once In again ? 1154. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI THAN- KAPPAN : Will the Minister of REVENUE AND BANKING be pleaied THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE to state : MINISTRY OF COMMERCE» (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : (a) the total amount given as loar. in (a) and (b). According to an Assess- Kerala for agricultural purposes by t%e ment made in 1975 there] Were about 26 State Bank of India and other nationali sed banks during the last two years ; and sick/closed tea gardens in West Bengal. The process of identification and co llecdon (b) the particulars of the scheme for of information in respect of tea estates which loans have been sanctioned ir. tbe which can be considered for investigation/ State ? take-over has been initiated. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Central Assistance to Bihar In CHARGE QF THE DEPARTMENT OF I97*~77 REVENUE & BANKING (SHRI PRA- NAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : 1153. SARDAR SWARAN SINGH (a) The amount of outstaiding advances SOKHI : by the public sector banks incluiing State SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR Bank of India to agriculure in Kerala are SINGH : as under : Will the Minister of FINANCE be plea- (Ri. in lalc'is) sed to state : Amount (a) whether the Central financial Outstanding* assistance to Bihar for the year 1976-77 is meagre; June 1974 . 2014*90 (b) whether Bihar Government have June 1975 • 2682*41 requested the Centre for more financial December 1975 3808*73 aid; and ♦Provisional (c) if so, whether the Central Govern- ment arc allocating more funds to Bihar ? (b) The direct agricultural advances THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE are generally granted for raising of crops* MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI irrigational purposes, purchase of machi- SUSHILA ROHATGI): (g) Central nery and other agricultural implements, assistance of Rs. 75*55 crores has been plough animals, land development, con- allocated to Bihar for financing the ap- struction of godowns and cold storage, proved State Plan outlay of Rs. 242*04 developmental loans for plantations, and V^es ^ tile current year. for allied agricultural activities like dairy, ill"' Written Answers AUGUST 20, l97fr Written Answers 112 poultry farming, o‘g?ery, fi shery etc. In- OF REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI direct a?ricuUu'al advance? arc pro- PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE); vided for distribution if fertilisers & (a) The aggregate outstanding advances bther inputs, State Electricity B>ard, of public sector banks to small scale in- loans t* farmers through coops, and other dustries in Kerala as at the end of Decem- institutions serving agricultural develop- ber 1975 stood at Rs. 52*66 crores. ment and *ntrepreieuri for setting up agro service centres ctc. (b) The present system of date reporting does not provide for collection of data Bank Loans for Development of regarding the number of applications Industries in Kerala pending with the commercial banks. 1155. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI THANKAPP AN s Will the Minister of Cases of Smuggling REVENUE AND BANKING be phased to 'tne : 1157. SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR (a) the tor il innun t offered to Kerah SINGH : Will the Minister of REVE- by tState B *.ik of India and other na- NUE AND BANKING be pleased to tionalised bank* as loan for the develop- state the number of cases of smuggling ment of industries during the last two detected during May, June and July, vfars ; and 1976 and value of goods seized as a result thereof ? (b) the figu- s thereof; Bmk-wise and district-wise ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF OF REVENUE Sc BANKING (SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : In REVENUE Sc BANKING (SHRI May 1976, 6000 seizures of smuggled PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : goods valued Rs. 199*29 lakhs, were Bank Loans to Small Scale Industries 1158. SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR in Kerala SINGH: Will the Minister of RE- VENUE AND BANKING be pleased 1156. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI to state : THANKAPPAN : Will the Minister of (a) the number of persons who have REVENUE AND BANKING be pleased been absconding for non-payment of to state : income-tax and other central taxes in (a'i the tot?l amount of loans advanced various States during the first six months bv the nationalised banks to small scale of 1976 industries m ill the districts of Kerala dur- (b) the total amount to be realised from ing the year 1975; and such persons ; and (b) the number of loan applicitions (c) action proposed to be tak^n against pending on 1st April, 1976 ? the offenders ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF STATE IN CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT CHARGE OF THE DEPARMENT OF Written Answers SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers 11A REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI Performance (techrical despatch re- PRANAB KUMAR MUKHEJEE): gularity for the first six months of 1976 (a) to (c). Information is being collected works out to The overall on and will be laid on the Table of the House. Time Performance on the basis of all types of delays /cancellations for the Exports to Iran corrcf por ding period works out to 72* 35%. 1159. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : Will (b) A contract has been signed with the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased R.N.A.C. in October, 1975 to repair and to state : overhaul their HS-748 components at Indian Airline t Ergir.eering Workshop. (a) whether Iran’s unprecedented affluence and its need for many Indian (c) The existing Engineering training products offers this country an unique facilities for Avro training at Hyderabad opportunity to expand its exports; cafi accommodate trainees from within as (b) whether the big bottleneck in the well as outfide the country. way of expansion is the long delays caused in the transport of cargo from the produ- Unaccounted Assets found cers to the consumers; and with a Chit Fund Company (c) if so, the hurdles which Government are not able to eliminate ? 1161. SHRI R.K. SINHA : Will the Minister of REVENUE AND BANK- THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ING be pleased to state : MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : (?) Yes, Sir. In recent years India’s (a) whether the Intelligence Wing of exports to Iran have in fact improved Income-Tax Department Madras searched considerably. in June/July, 1976 importmt branches (b) and (c). Tne main constraints of a public limited Company running have been congestion at the Iranian chit funds ; ports. (b) whether unaccounted assets were found as a result of the searchs and if so, Performance of Indian Airlines the particular* thereof ; and ix 6d. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : Will the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL (c) whether Government propose to AVIATION be pleased to state: look into the affairs of other chit fund (a) wheher the performance rate of companies also operating in various parts Indian Airlines with its Avros and other of the country to detect fraud and mal- fleet of aircraft had been 99 per cent. functionings ? (b) whether Indian Airlines had taken THE MINISTER OF STATE IN up Avro work from outside India and CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF recently an agreement was signed with REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI Ncpil to undertake all repair work of PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : Nepal Airlines here; and (a) and (b). Tne Intelligence Wing of (c) whether spare capacity for Avro the Income-tax Department, Madras, training has been created in Hyderabad ? conducted search and seizure operations in June-July, 197* at the following busi- THE MINISTER OF TOURISM ness premises of M/s. Visaiam Chit AND CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI RAJ ftAHADUfc): (a) The average on Time Funds Ltd.; 115 Written Answers AUGUST 20, 1976 Written Answers u< (i) Registered Office in Tirunelvcli: Import of Cotton (ii) Central office in Mount Road, Madras; 1162. SHRI B. S. BHAURA : Wifi (iii) Administrative office in Pallathur; the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased (iv) Branch at Salem; and to state: (v) Two branches at Madurai. (a) the quantum of cotton imported As a result of the above operations, during the year 1975 1976 so far from books of account/documents have been which countries and at what prices; seized. and Unaccounted assets /unexplained ex- penditure of about Rs. 50 lakhs were also (b) the present price of indigenous cotton ? detected from the residence of the Ma- naging Director of M/s. Visalam Chit Funds Ltd. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (c) Where ve* considered necessary, MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI action as called for ui>dcr the law is being VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : taken. (a) Details are as under ;— Cotton Season Value Country 1974-75 1975-76 (Rs. in crores) (as on 14-8-76) 1974-75 1975-76 No. of bals. Sudan 17,313 37,000 4*45 7-29 Egypt (ARE) 9,746 4*68 Pakistan . 2,00,000 25*00 T o t a l *,17,313 46,746 *9*45 11*97 (b) Present prices of some of the Survey o f Posh Flats launched by varieties of indigenous cotton are Income Tax Department In as under:— Bombay Variety Prices in 1163. SHRI B. S. BHAURA : Will Rs. per the Mini (ter of REVENUE AND BANK- candy ING be pleased to state : (a) whether a survey of the po*h flats (as on 14-8-76) has been conducted by the Income Tax Suvin 9 >000 officials in Bombay; and (b) if so, the results thereof ? Varalaxmi 6,400 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN* S4 . . . 6,250 CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF Digviiay 4,900 REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE); 320-F . 4,000 (a) and (b). As per information av»iw>e Written Answers SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers il& at present, 417 flats-bungalows have exclusively. For purposes of carrying been covered in Bombay in the survey of on proper scrutiny and co-ordinated posh localities resumed recently by investigation, the cases of persons and the Income Tax authorities ; estimated concerns connected with the film industry unaccounted investment detected being are assigned to separate circles in Bombay over Rs. 186 lakhs. and Calcutta. These circles are manned by a number of Income Tax Officers. In Restriction on scope of Industrial Bombay and Calcutta, these circles are known as Film Circle and Cinema Circle, Reconstruction Corporation of India to Eastern Zone respectively. In Madras, the cases of such persons are concentrated with 1164. SHRI B. S. BHAURA : Will Income Tax Officers. the Minister of REVENUE AND BANK- ING be pleased to state ; Cases of film stars in which large scale tax evasion is suspected or where detailed (a) wheher there is a proposal to restrict investigation is required to be made, are the scope of the Industrial Reconstruction assigned to the Central Circle. In Bombay, Corporation of India to Eastern India only one Inspecting Assistant Commissioner and for starting new construction agencies of Income Tax is also dealing with cases in other parts of the country; of some of the leading film stars. (b) if so, the salient features thereof ; Requirements of Rural Credit (c) the factors put forward for the proposal 5 and 1166. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD MANDAL: Will the Minister of (d) Government’s reaction thereto ? REVENUE & BANKING be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- state : CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT (a) whether Government have agreed OF REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI to meet 66 per cent of the requirements of PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : rural credits; and (a) No Sir. (b) if so, state-wise allocation made (b) to (d). Do not arise. during 1975 anci 80 *976 ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- Special Circle to assess Income Tax CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT cases of Film Stars OF REVENUE & BANKING (SHRI 116$. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : MANDAL : Will the Minister of REVE- (a) No, Sir. NUE AND BANKING be pleased to (b) Does not arise. state: (a) whether the Income Tax Depart- Unauthorised Powerlooms in Karnataka ment has set up a special circle to assess cases of film stars; and 1167. SHRI S. B. PATIL : Will the (b) if so, the salient feature thereof ? Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF (a) whether any survey has been made of the unauthorised powerlooms REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE): operating in Karnataka ; (a) and (b). No special circle has been (b) if so, their numbers districtwtwo created to deal with cases of film stars and l i y Written Answers AUGUST 20, 1976 Written Answers 12.) (c) whether any penal action is (c) The Sub-Committee will submit taken or proposed to be taken against its report to the National Industrial Com- such unauthorised powerlooms owners mittee after completion of the investiga- without adversely affecting the employ- tions of cases referred to it by the Com- ment of the poor? mittee. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Sale of Smuggled Goods MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : 1169. SHRI S. R. DAMANI : Will (a) No, Sir. the Minister of REVENUE AND BANK- ING be pleased to state the amount (b) Does not arise. realised through sale of smuggled goods (c) The polic>’ regarding unauthorized during last three years, year-wise? powerlooms is under consideration. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- National Industrial Committee on CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF Plantations REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : 1168. SHRIMATI PARVATHI The amount realised through sale of KRISHNAN : Will the Minister of smuggled goods during last three years, COMMERCE be pleased to state : is given below : (a) whether the National Industrial Year Rs. in lakhs Committee on Plantation has set up a (approx*) Committee to study the problems of the side and closed tea gardens; 1973 • • 1,130 (b) if so, the members of this sub- committee ; and 1974 • • ' 2,979 (c) when will this sub-committee 1975 • • 2,973 submit its report ? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Impact of Smuggling on Industries VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : in Small Scale Sector (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The National 1170. SHRI S. R. DAMANI : Will Industrial Committee on Plantations at the Minister of REVENUE AND BANK- its meeting held on i8tb June, 1976, ING be pleased to state : constituted a Standing Sub-Committee (a) whether any study has been with the following representatives each made about the effect of the present from employers and workers to deal with cases of closures, apprehended closures, sales policy of seized smuggled goods on the indigenous industry, particularly retrenchments, lay-offs, etc. in the industry as and when referred to it by the Com- of the small-scale sector ; mittee : (b) whether a study has also beer Workers' representatives made to find out items whose smugglin* 1. Shri Chinmoy Ghosh (AITUC) fan be reduced by adjustment of excisi 2. Shri G. C. Sarmah (INTUC) duties on such items; and 3. Shri Bhawani Paul (INTUC) (c) if so, the results thereof? Employer? representatives 1. Shri V. I. Chacko THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 2. Shri S. N. Basu CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF 3. Shri K. N. Sarkar. REVENUE AND BANKING (SHR Written Answers SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers 12Z PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : policy in this regard and export duties are (a) to (c). In order that sale of confiscated under constant review to secure maximum goods does not affect the goods produced foreign exchange return. It may, how- indigenously the prices of such goods ever, be mentioned that as illicit exports are kept in view while fixing the prices at are attempted for illegally acquiring foreign which confiscated goods are sold. The exchange abroad, reduction of export quantum of smuggled goods sold being duties, would have limited impact on not large, the sale of such goods is also smuggling activities. not likely to affect materially the indige- nous industry. Alleged Mismanagement in Yijaya Bank Limited As regards the study to find out items whose smuggling can be reduced by the 1172. SHRI C.K. CHANDRAPPAN r adjustment of excise duties on such Will the Minister of REVENUE AND items, it may be stated that whereas no BANKING be pleased to state : such regular study on this subject has been (a) whether G vernment are aWare of made, the consideration of checking of the mismanagement going on in Vijaya smuggling is generally kept in view while Bank Limited ; adjusting excise duties on different products. A number of items have been (b) whether G vernment are also identified which are being manufactured aware that the 1975 balance-sheet of the predominemly in the small scale sector said bank Was manipulated which the for which comparable goods were being share-holders had pointed out in General smuggled into India. In order to provide Body meeting ; and quality goods and at cheaper prices so as (c) if so, G overnment’s reaction in to obviate the smuggling of and competi- the matter ? tion from foreign goods, efforts have been made to boost up production of these THE MINISTER OF STATE INCH- items. These measures together with ARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF other steps to combat smuggling have had REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI a beneficial effect on indigenous industry. PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : (a) to (c). Government have received complaints Study to reduce Smuggling of Articles from Vijaya Bank Employees Union 1x71. SHRI S. R. DAMANI : Will against the Vijaya Bank Ltd. that it was the Minister of REVENUE AND patronising its employees* association BANKING be pleased to state : affiliated to R.S.S./Jana Sangh cadres in various Ways and, from the shareholders, (a) whether any study has been made alleging tnrer alia* that the bank has mani- to reduce smuggling activities by allowing pulated its balance sheet for the year 1975- exports through authorised channels or by adjustment of export duties; and The allegations are being looked into by the Reserve Bank of India. (b) if so, the result thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- Development of Tourism in CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT Malabar Area OF REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI 1173. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : Will the Minister of TOURISM AND (a) and (b). Export Trade Control CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state : P°licy generally provides for exports where such exports do not adversely (a) whether G vernment are aWare affect the country’s wealth or the internal that Malabar area in Kerala is an attractive availability of essential supplies. The tourist spot; and 123 Written Answers AUGUST 20, 1976 Written Answers (b) if so, what steps have been taken in Kerala in the Central Sector during the in the Central Sector to develop the area remaining years of the Fifth Five Year from tourism point of view? Plan. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Agreement with European Economic THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND Community regarding Export of Co|r LCIVIL AVIATION (SHRI SURENDRA 1175. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : PAL SINGH) : (a) and (b). India Will the Minister of COMMERCE be abourds in a large number of attractive pleased to state : places, the Malabar area in Kerala no doubt being cme of them. However, due to constraint on resources necessitating (a) whether Government have entered into any new agreement with the Euro* a selective approach in tourism planning, the emphasis in the Central Sector is on pean Economic Community regarding developing tourist facilities at centres the export of Coir; and which are either already popular with (b) if so, the main features thereof? international tourists or hold the potential t™attract them. With this in view tourist THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE facilities have been provided at Kovalam> MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Trivandrum and Periyar Wild Life VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : Sanctuary in Kerala in the Central Sector. (a) Agreement has been reached between India and the European Economic Community on trade in coir products. Development of Tourist Spots In Kerala (b) The main features of the Agree- ment would include the following :— 1174. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN : Will the Minister of TOURISM AND (i) The Common Customs Tariff of CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state : the EEC on coir products has been suspended by 8o% with effect from (a) whether Government have taken 1-7-76 and will be suspended b> steps to develop the beautiful spots in 100% with cff ct fnm 1.1.1978. Kerala for tourism; and Imports into U.K., and Denmark (b) if so, the main features thereof? will, however, continue to be dutj free, within the framework of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Generalised System of Preferences. THE MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND (ii) The Community will not subjcci CIVIL AVIATION (SHRI SURENDRA the imports of these products fron PAL SINGH): (a) and (b>. The emphasis India to new quantitative restrictions in the Central Sector being on the develop- It has been agreed that appropriat' ment of tourist centres which are either steps be taken to facilitate the ful already popular with international tourists utilisation of import possibilitie or have the potential to attract them-* the deriving from existing quantitativ< development of Kovalam as a beach resort restrictions. of international standard has been taken up in the Central Sector. A Youth Hostel (iii) A Joint Cooperation Ccmxnitt© is under construction at Trivandrum* and consisting of the representatives 0 it is also proposed to provide some addi- the Government of India ard thi tional facilities in the Periyar Wild Life European Economic Comm unit) Sanctuary. Apart from these 3 projects, will be set up to meet at least one* there are no proposals for the present to a year to examine any problein develop facilities at other tourist ccntrcs relating to the implementation of thi Written Answers SBAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Written Answers 126 Agreement and also to investigate Import of Cotton uy Cotton possibilties of and formulate Corporation suggestions for cooperation in regard to existing production methods, 1177. SHRI RAGHUNANDAN LAL research and development of new BHATIA : Will the Minister of COM- MERCE be pleased to state : 1 techniques of preparing and proces- sing coir and manufacturing coir (a) Whether Cotton Corporation has goods in order to expand the end geared up its machinery for speedy import uses of coir. The task of this of cotton from various countries; and Committee will also include develop- (b) if so, broad features thereof ? ment of contacts between and facilita- tion of joint projects and*progtam* THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE mes mutually agreed upon by, MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI representatives of the coir trade and VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : industry of both India and the (a) and (b). The Cotton Corporation of Community. India is taking all possible steps to import cott9n as early as possible. Out of 2 (iv) The Agreement will be valid until lakh bales of cotton which are proposed 31st December, 1979. to be imported, the bulk hss already been contracted for. Fall in the Export of Shellac Meeting of Cargo Managers of 1176. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : Will International Airlines in Delhi. the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state : 1178. SHRI RAGHUNANDAN LAL BHATIA : Will the Minister of (a) whether export of Shellac has TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be come down due to the indiscriminate increase of its prices by Indian exporters pleased to state : and the resultant shifting to synthetic (a) whether a meeting of the Cargo substitutes by European buyers; and Managers of all international airlines was held in Delhi recently ; ? (b) if so, the steps G d vernment propose to take in this regard ? (b) whether measures to clear the backlong of Cargo as Delhi and other THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE airports were discussed in the meeting ; MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI and VISHWANATH PRATAP SINGH) : (c) if so, the facts thereof ? (a) and (b). No, Sir. Export of shellac including seedlac is based on a policy of THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND the Government which is aimed at ensuring CIVIL AVITAION (SHRI RAJ BA- a fair price to the growers and to ensure HADUR) : (a) to (c). The Director that shellac earns a price commensurate General of Civil Aviation convened a with its value. In order to achieve this, meeting of the representatives of the Government has asked S.T.C. to under- various international airlines including take buffer stock operations as a means Air-India in April, 1976 in New Delhi °f providing price support. Export of for devising measures for cleaming the seedlac and shellac has been canalised reported backlog of 500 tonnes of garments through the S.T.C. under a policy which which had accumulated at Delhi due to also allows controlled exports by private the fact that the exporters had offered traders. to the airlines 1400 ard 1700 tonnes of fprq/mto In 2fcbflM*rjr>«n THE MINISTEL OF STATE IN- [Placed w (hi library. See No LT- CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT 11156/76]. OF REVENUE ANP BANKING (SHRt PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEFJ (4) A copy each of the following Noti- I beg to lay on the Tabic — fications (Hindi and English vernon*' urd*r section 159 of the Cuitom<’ Act. (1) A copy each of the following Noti- 1962 — fications (Hindi and English versions) uad'r sub-section (3I of section 114 of the (1) G S R . 481(E) to 483(E) published m Gazette of India dated the 26th Gold (Control) Act, 1968 — July, 1976 together wth an ex- (i> The Gold Contra1 (Forms F( eg planatory memorandum. and MfccefhreoiL* Matters) h i) G.S R 742(E) published tn Gazette Second Am ndm*'rt Ruks, 1976, of I'dia dated the 2nd AogW't* published >»i Not ficatjon No. 1976 together with an explanatory S O. 507(E m Gazette of India memorandum. dated the 3CH July 19*6 (111) G.S.R. 744(E) published in Gazette 0 0 The Gold Octroi (Lie r [Placed m Library. Set No LT-11154/76} u * 57/7®l p Messages from RS SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Adoption of 130 Children Bill M i n e r a l C o n c e s s i o n ( i s t A m d t .) tories (Amendment) Bill, 1976, R u l e s , 1976 which was passed by the Lok Sabha at its sitting held on the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IK THE nth August, 1976.” DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY ■*> FFAIRS (SHRI B. SHANKARA- (iii) “ In accordance with the pro- rAND): On behalf of Shri Sukhdcv visions of rule 127 of the Rules of risad, I beg to lay on tne Table a copy Procedure and Conduct of Business ,f the Mineral Concession (First in the Rajya Sabha, I am directed jivndnrnt) Rules, 1976 (Hindi and to inform the Lok Sabha that the iTg'tsh versjors) publi*h«d in N>tifi~a Rajya Sabha, at its sitting held 4on No. G.S.R. 1164 in Gazette of India on the 19th August, 1976, agreed lated the 7th August, 1976. und^r sub- without any amendment to the ection (O of section 28 of the Mines and Maintenance of internal Security Minerals (Regulator ard Development) (Second Amendment) Bill, 1976, let, 1976. which was passed by the Lok Sabha at its sitting held on the |Placed in library. See No. L I- 11158/ 16th August, 1976.** 76] (iv) “ In accordance with the provi- sions of sub-rule (6) of j rule 186 12.0 I 2 hri. of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in the MESSAGES FROM RAJYA SABHA Rajya Sabha, I am directed to return her with the President’s SECRETARY-GENERAL : Sir I Pension (Amendment) Bill, 1976, have to rep rt the following messages which was passed by the Lok received from the Secret iry- General of Sabha at its sitting held on the Rajya Sabha :— 16th August, 1976, and transmit- (i) “ In accordance with the provisions ted to the Rajya Sabha for its re- if rule 127 of the Rul s of Pro- commendations and to state that cedure and Conduct of Business this House has no recommendations in the Rajya Sabha, I am di- t ' make to the Lok Sabha in re- rected to inform the Lok Sabha gard to the siid Bill.** that the Rajya Sabha, at its sitting held on the 17th August 1976, agreed without any amendment 12.02 hr*. to the Delhi Agricultural Produce ADOPTION OF CHILDREN BILL Marketing (Regulation) Bill, 1976, 1972 which was passed by the Lok Sabha at its sitting held on the (i) R e p o r t o f Jo i n t C o m m i t t e e nth August, 1976/* SHRIMATI MUKUL BANERJI (ii) “ In accordance with the provi- (New Delhi) : I beg to lay on the sions of rule 127 of the Rules of Table a copy of the Report of the J int Procedure and Conduct of Busi- Committee on the Bill to provide for the ness in the Rajya Sabha, I am doption of children and for matters con- directed to inform the Lok Sabha anected therewith. that the Rajya Sabha, at its sitting (ii) E vid en ce 9 held on the 17th August, 1976, agreed without any smendment to SHRIMATI MUKUL BANERJI : I the Government of Union Terri- beg to lay on the Table a copy of the record *3* B.O.H. , 1976 Committee o f Prtrffoge* 132 , Report [Shrimati Mukul Banerjee] (4) Introduction, consideration and of Evidence (Volumes I, II and III) ten- passing of dered before the Joint Committee on the (a) The Laxmirattan & Atherton Bill to provide for the adoption of children West Cotton Mills (Taking over ard for matters connccted therewith. of Management) Bill, 1976. (b) The Metal Corporation of India 12.03 hr*. (Nationalisation and Miscella- BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE neous Provisions) Bill, 1976. (c) The Photies (Additional Excise THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Duty) Repeal Bill, 19 76 ; and HOUSING AND PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS(SHRI K, RAGHU RAMAIAH): (d) The Companies (Amendment) With your permission, Sir, I rise to an- Bill, 1976. nounce that Government Business in this In addition, I may also mention that House during the wok commencing 23rd Government proposes to introduce a Bill August 1976, will consist erf :— to amend the Constituion of India to (1) Consideration of any item of Go- increase the agc-limit of State Public vernment Business carried over Service Commission Members. We from today’s Order Paper. hope to introduce this Bill early next week and propose to take it up for con- (2) Discussion and voting on :— sideration on the 30th August, 1976. (a) Supplementary Demands for MR. SPEAKER : The Constitution Grants (Tamil Nadu) for 1976-77* amendment regarding this par^cular (b) Supplementary Demands for matter is to be taken up on the 30th. Grants (Pond cherry) for SHRI B.V. NAIK (Kunara) : What 1976-77. about th'v Sch'^ujed Cr?tes and Scheduled (3) Consideration md passing of :— Tribes areas delimitation Bill ? We have p. been told for quite some time that it is (a) The Bum Company & Indian 1 < ’•i coming. Standard Wagon Company (Na- tionalisation) Bill, 1976. (b) The Braithwaite & Company (India) Limited (Acqu sition and Transfer of Undertaking*) Bill, IS.S5 hrs. 1976. f V COMMITTEE OF FRIVILEGFS v: (c) The Delhi Sales Tax (Amerd- Eig h t e e n t h Repo r t m nt & Validation) Bill, 1976. £ v (d) The Antiquities & Art Treasures SHRIMATI MAYA RAY (Raiganj): (Amendment) Bill, 1976;* as I beg to move : ■ passed ?by Rajya Sabha. f "- tr fj * ‘ i * ■ * “ That this Hou*e do agree with the (c) The Labour Provid'nt Fund Eighteenth Report of the Com Laws (Amendment) Bill/ i$76. ** mtttee of IJrivilfgrs laid or the ■ j ) . , Table of the llouse on the 16th (f) The Essential ^Commodities August, 1976. (Amendment) Bill, 1976, as M • If lit a ' 'A • passed by Rajya Sabha. MR. SPBAKBR The qoestio! IS # (g) .'’tfcc l^actoriw (Amendment) & 11, * HoW do* agree With the ■ |^ 5 # at passed by Rajya* Sabtia?^ " 1 ‘fclghleefifh 'Export of the Com- *3 3 Burn Co- & Ind‘ stan- SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Braith. & Co. (India) 134 Wagon Co. (Natln.) Bill Ltd. (Acq. & Trans. 0/ C/nd.) 'Bill mittcc o f. Privileges laid on the 12.06 hr®. Table of th$ House on the 16th STATEMENT RE. BURN COMPANY August, 1976.” AND INDIAN STANDARD WAGON The motion teas adopted. COMPANY (NATIONALISATION) ORDINANCE, 1976 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 11.5} hr*. THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY (SHRI B.P. MAURYA) : I beg to lay BURN COMPANY AND INDIAN on the Table an explanatory statement s t a n d a r d WAGON COMPANY (Hindi and English versions) giving reasons (NATIONALISATION) BILL* for immediate legislation by the Burn Company and Indian Standard Wagor. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Company (Nationalisation) Ordirar.ee, THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY 1976. fPlaced in library. See No. LT- 12 .7 J hr§. t f fas tfrg-piw tftT STATEMENT /?£. BRAITHWAITE WTrTT itfPT TfV £ — ff tTPT% UrSJR AND COMPANY (INDIA) LIMITED $r ^rr j cr^rarr^ fcrr (ACQUISITION AND TRANSFER OF ff', fv * ^r*nr % ?*r UNDERTAKINGS) ORDINANCE, 1976. f, | tt ^ ar^=r s .t n i pp | SHRI B.P. MAURYA : I beg to lay on the Table* an explanatory statement fa fr* amr?* % sr*rr?s s*rfar % tta (Hindi and English versions) giving reasors *T*rwrr, w wfcTsfa for immediate legislation by the Braith- T|prrs:T w ir^ ifr * t ^rrq- ^Tr ^ i waite and Compan* (India) Limited ar?r *)*rr*R *> trnr it? (Acquisition and Transfer of Undertak- ings) Ordinance, 1976. [Placed in library fsrfiterft f^mpfr %fa?r See No. LT-i 1160/76). * fin> Trq Tqf^r 12. *8 hr* ; f.tT'T *$f t • *** *rrn ATvn: SUPPLEMENTARY DEMANDS r = n i »fr w a s ; | ^r^rT «Pt FOR GRANTS (GENERAL), ^ d fmr vm W 1976-77— Contd. MR. SPEAKER : The House will if ft firvr*) % if arrjrurft now take up the further discussion and STTfTt ^ «T|^T% % f»TT wr.TTSTf voting on the Supplcm ntary Demands «pf ^HTT ^ fir*=TfT W'?i; f I for Grants in res pec* of thv Budget(G^neral) ff«rry7Tr»,.'Wf irfsrT*^ f^rfar «r for 1976-77. 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It is a matter o f great and good offices, the signature of the Chuff satisfaction today for 6o-crore Indians that Minister of West Bengal will be obtained. We have probably crossed those hurdles If that is done and the project is taken up, Which brought us in confrontation with this multi-pttrposepro)cctisgoingto bring difficult situations two or three years ago. prosperity not only to xo lakh people ia Today we have probably a stock of 17 Orissa but to a large number of people million tonnes of foodgrains in our in Bihar in the upstream of Subranarekha country. I do not know whether u is a who are suffering due to floods it will also buffet stock, but it is a matter o f great bring prosperity to a large Section of people satisfaction that with this reserve stock we in the Midnapur district of West can cross any flood or drought situation Bengal who have suffered during the last SO years and have come to call Subar- A glance through the Report of the narekha as a river of sorrow Ministry of Agriculture and Irrigation will show that Weather conditions ‘during January-Februar} 1976 have proved to be The emergency has brought a lot of beneficial and in case weather conditions good to the country, because for the first during the remaining part of the season time probably everything has been electri- remain favourable, production of rabi fied, everything is in gear and every crops may also regsister a substantial incre- individual, right from top to bottom. 11 ase over the previous >ear’ It is true trying to dexote his energy m a spirit of that India being an agricultural country dedication to the scrvice of the country has to depend on the monsoon and there so that the country may progress Will be vagaries of nature There will be floods or drought in some part or other We all know that the rural people depend o f the country every year It may be as on banks Here I want to sa> Some* in Kerala where we have drought m some thing about the functioning of banks. parts and floods in some other parts When banks were nationalised, it Was But the overall situation of agriculture and probably considered by the people of India food in the country is very good That is asthe’magnacarta'of the people of India. a matter of great satisfaction to the people The people of India thought that after In this connection, I must say some* nationalisation of the banks prosperity thing very pertinent to my State* Orissa would come round the corner; the major Orissa is an agricultural Stare, and as components of our Prime Minister’s Gandhiji said, the poorest of all die States twenty point economic programme are for in India. It has so many projects I ameliorating the economic conditions o f to be taken up I come from North the vulnerable sections of society The Orissa where there is the Subarnarekha different items o f the programme should project Which has been passing through be enabled to move forward with almost every Ministrj during the last ten the flow of credit from branks as an years. Now probably it is pending with engine of economic growth so that small the Planning Commission. Babuji will investments can be made selfrefiant and agree— perhaps he has seen the file— it is productive. But die managers in srme o f an interstate project to be finalised the banks are not dedicated to she between Bihar, Vast Bengal and Orissa. spirit of serving the peogler nor are they Although the Chief Ministers of Orissa and atuAtd fc> the spirit o f emergency; i&cy Bihar have agreed to the ***0*rt, the have not inhaled the spirit ftjftoBNftia* 45 Svppl. DG (Genl.) SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) 1976-77 * ' 146 tton and because of those reasons, it has persons at the top level. As a trade Union- become a failure because the common ist I know that the poor people, the pea- people, general people arc not feeling that sants and the workers constitute the back- the banks are for them and are not for bone of our society and they are behind Birlas, DalmiaS Jains and GoenkaS and the Prime Minister’s 20 point economic other people from the upper strata. Wh en programme, they are behind the Cor.greS a common man goes to the bark he is Party and not the police nor the bureau- frowned upon. When banks were in the crats nor officers who are there only to private sector, service was easily avail- take a lion’s share of the good that ccmes able. Bureaucrats now feel that they are out. highbrows and chief patrons and they are During the emergency, we have tried •controlling the banks. I have written to find out the condition of the workers in numberless letters to the Deputy Minister the industries. As a trade unionist, I feel .about this and I have also asked that a that the workers have lost their bonus. bank manager be transferred. I feel that T ’ ey do not mind; they feel that they have a machinery has to be evolved and some to contribute to the success of the planning action should be initiated so that the ba» k and that they as workers can contribute managers should feel during the emergency somet i g financially and also physically that they are e*qual to people who come to by t eir labour; they have stated support- them for relief, for money ; other- ing t' e plan of the Prime Minister, unlike wise the p o o t peasants will not benefit. some engineers or top brass of the manag- I have been elected chairman of the co- erial class. There is a grievance every- ordination committee of the northern zone where, in all the steel plants in the indus- for the State Bank of India. There is trial installations and everywhere. The victimisation in the State Bar k of India. workers have no access to government. The re are persons like Mr. Goel, Mr. T fe managerial class has been empowered Kangachary and others. I do not know with so much power in emergency that if them, mere are employees, workers in their opinion there is any type of Working till 9 p.m. in the night and they insubordination by any worker, he will mee do not get any overtime; it is not even with summary dismissal from the job. In allowed to enter it in the register that they the Southeastern Railway, I krow that on are working for so many hours extra. I flimsy grounds twenty ticket collectors had .asked Mr. Balasubramaniam, additional / been removed. I come from the steel secretary to get in touch with Mr. Goel, plants area and I am connected With steel so that he could talk to me about this; plants unions; the managers in the steel Mr. Goel did not care to talk to me and he plants are having such repressive measures tells the workers: why should I talk to a that it is difficult for the wokers to feel that Member of Parliament ? This is his atti- they are part of the installation. They tude to Workers. Those workers and the are giving premature retirement to officers employees who work in the banks are the who are honest and who have the maximum backbone of nationalisation and they are to amount r f integrity and are trying to keep deliver the goods, not the managers or only those officers who indulge in buttering (Shri Shyam Sunder Mohsputra] explanation should be called for. Why plained. You can imagine what Would be should a poor M.P. be asked after three the contents of such areply. M r. Mukher- years to use his good offices for realising jee is a very dynamic minister and a close the money ? friend of mine. He has given a new turn to the entire banking and revenue system. On the8th August, an editorial appeared in a very well known daily of Orissa, He must look into these things. Samaj about the exploitation of p'x r In my constituency, there is tribal and Harijan wemen. The contrac- a small place called Soro. The manager tors and tektdars from the industrial areas there has become very unpopular. He of Jamshedpur and West Bengal lure the openly criticises the Prime Minister and the poor people in Tribal and Harijan areas, 20 point programme. Waen people come which are poverty-stricken due to conti- for loan, he behaves in a very rude Way. nuous floods or draught, and take these Courtesy costs nothing, says an English people out of Orissa. In such a situation, proverb but he thinks he is a monarch what should be the duty of the government ? in that little area. When I complained to The police should be acti vised in such a the minister, I received a reply saying, “ So way that these contractor# arc not in a p and so has not paid his dues to the bank. tion to come to the rural areas with money You, as a* Member of Parliament, may and allure the poor people. please use your good offices in the matter I would like to draw the attention of the so that the money m ay be paid back to House to certain project* in Or*&sa. the bank.” As a Member of Parliament* Orissa is the poorest of all the States it is my duty to use my good offices, bu in India, as Mahatma Gandhi once said and it was not my duty** a^ our esteemed Prime Minister also has said and in the considerations of the Mr. SPEAKER : I think a very unus- Planning Commission and other agencies, ual situation is there in the House. You Orissa should get priority. We have arc levelling charges against persons who many river valley projects to be completed. arc not here to defend themselves. You There was a ferro-vanadium plant are not following the procedure pre- which was to come up in Mayurbhanj scribed. You are naming the persons and district, but nothing is heard abour it. saying that they indulged in bribery, cor* The Prime Minister announced that a ferti- ruption, etc. If you have to make accusa- liser plant will come up at Paradip and the tions of a serious nature, you should inform people were hoping that this will change* me and take my permission. So, whatever the face of the whole State. But we you said about individual names and understand that the project has been accept- charges will not form part of the proceed- ed only in principle. I request that due ings. attention may be given to this also. The S. E. Railway coven die maximum SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MOHAPA- area in the State of Orissa. But there is TRA : I am sorry; I will not give the nor much development as far as the names of (he officers. I will only mention railway is concerned. There are areas the bank. As I *aid> the manager of the which should be connected by railwsy State Bank, Balaftore has written me a letter lines. The communication system should asking me to extend my good offices to be geared up. realise the motley. Those officers who were responsible for giving money to such SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur) people should be taken to task and their Theae are Supplementary Demand: (General), excluding the railways. ••Not recorded, . i.*-* ■ 49 £<4 >pl. DG (Genl) SfcAVANA 29, 1898 XSAKAf 1976-77 1 15, ■ . .. MR. SPEAKER: You should confine sum fa s (sTCTflhft) ; yourself to only those items which are included here. sfr, srrr ^ *rt 1 976- 77 % SFTSTrj aft *7*17 SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MOHA- PATRA: I was having an overall picture fa a rff qft sptc ifri fircr before my eyes. % fair yrr & srn? *7 simrfr MR. SPEAKER: No overall picture in g i # % fara* g r r the discussion of the Supplementary Demands. p rr g i SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MOHA- PATRA: Out country is facing a huge ^ ?ft if srr* unemployment problem. Today in 1976 tfm r sfcrrr m z t, w f t we have about 94,26,000 unemployed *rerr, n n s r ^rar % fa k people in our country. About 50 lakhs of them are matriculates. Then, big job m n i ^rr ^rfrrr ? fo fasr tfr seekers like technocrats, engineers, doctors and those who have passed BA or MA srfcTf^rRTfr qfr forfW fr examination account for another 4 lakhs. jrfawr, 5ffr w rrw fr wfacrct We should provide avenue of employ- ment for these people in our country. v r ^rr, r ere fa r o m *r>, The private sector should "be compelled to OTnrarrs ^ ^ r r ?rr^ff absorb as many people as possible. If you compare the unemployment ^ rtr jc. - ; £ Hr H' I 5 1 **■ 6c «t»o E tf & i* £ K I! * i * 'tE ^ H i I * | 1 p & - *£ — i !> $ I? £ to F T 9 Hr j r * :tr i rtr fr * * f & ^ /fr fer 1 *fr rfT p <& i l l P « I I ^ fr* fr K *tn l l *fe £ B ^ fr * i & Jr S I* " r t i g (r <*f £ # I* *• f o at b ' £ * "« ,* te 1 ^ 1 III w t TF *r “5 . Jr® ^ ip i.l ?tr ' £ *_ -fr I I e S' tr B & t 0 £ E-S rp 4S uZ % g- T J* Q /f£" fr* ,» I M <-% y » 9 r tf fr *N# I* dr & z * £ -E H- fc tftc' & tr : * i * li*- 1 fe /he/ & 3 - 3 SRAVANA '(Gent.) DGSuppl. j £ * I 5j oj M 4|/ 3 1 1 i 31 *« i f * ip *! 2> 3 n l i l 4 X* 9 9 - * s M 1976-77 3- « a> * 1 t - 3 - *l, 15* ,*m -n a 1 a s ■ a » I 1 3 i J 155 * Suppl DG (Genl.) AUGUST 20. 187* ^ 3 1976-77 ' l S6i s [ * t srwnr faf] «r»fi ^ *r:«f trK fr *r*r*?r ?TP5 t?R % *Tf The Lok Sabha adjourned for Lunch The second thing I would like to pre- till Fourteen of the Clock. sent before the House is the fact that, in the context of the necessity for more agri- The Lok Sabha reassembled after Lunch cultural production in this country, it is an at six 'minutes past Fourteen of the Clock. extremely difficult situation that is obtain- ing in our region. We are about 120 [Mr . D e pu t y Speaker in the Chair ] kms. away from the rail-head, and what- ever fertiliser is supplied to this area has to be transported by road to the district SUPPLEMENTARY DEMANDS FOR GRANTS (GENERAL), 1976-77—Contd. headquarters and from there it is distri- buted. So, the situation is th8t upto the rail-head, the charges for transport of SHRI CHAPALENDU BHATTA- fertiliser are not borne by the agents who CHARYYIA (Giridhi) : As I was say- distribute it, but as soon as the ferti- ing, right policy-mix and micro planning liser leaves the rail-head, the transporta- are necessary to help completely imple- tion charges are added on to the commis- ment the 20-point programme of our Prime sion of the supply agents. The upshot Minister and the five points additionally is that, in our district , the fertiliser is projected by Mr San jay Gandhi always in short supply, whereas people which have raised great expectations. O f have taken to adopting improved farming course, family planning is the crux of the techniques and the demand for fertiliser matter. We ..have to keep - the rate of is there. The difficulty is that there is no inflation to the level of increase in pro- agent, apart from the cooperatives who ductivity in industries and in scientific do it in an off-handed way, who would agriculture. The Supplementary Demands undertake to supply fertiliser in sufficient for Grants have made a provision as quantity to this region. In this context, follows: Rs. 65 crores for agriculture and I would submit that it is essential that the rural development. Rs. 32 crores for transport of fertiliser from rail-heads to power development. Rs. 46*93 crores the district headquarters should find a for foreign trade and export promotion. subsidy from the Fertiliser Corporation, I am happy that Rs. 3 crores have been so that it does not go against the interests provided for revenue and capital account for Mines and Minerals perhaps osten- of those people who are involved in the sibly to give a drive for such heavier supply of fertilisers to these areas. minerals like uranium, copper, silver, nickel and so on. I again emphasise the SHRI CHAPALENDU BHATTA- overriding necessity of exploring intensively CHARYYIA ( Giridhi ): Mr. Speaker, 22 degree latitude plus fifty miles north Sir, I support the Supplementary Demands and south of it, from the mouth of Subar- for Grants. It is a sort of nvni-Budget narekha river to that of Tapti. and is in vogue in other countries also. The necessity of a right policy mix is widely felt, so that, along with the^ deve- Sir, priority is fixed for particular loping technology, along with sophistica- schemes and here also it is a projection tion, along with growth in the highly of the priority fixed in the original budget. [Shri Chapalcrtdu Bhattacharyyia] I know thit some of these banks arc Low income, Low wage, depressed really an extension of the image of one in- areas should be specially identified and dividual ; I know also of the situation in given necessary economic support to bring Ranchi where one high officer of the bank them in line with other areas. I have went into the surrounding gram panchayat* in mind the higher plateau areas of Chota and by pumping the credit in course of Nagpur where stick lac is grown and the just two years, through overproduction lower plateau of Chota Nagpur so far as of tomatoes has brought down the cost of mica is concerned. These depressed areas potatoes to 15 paise a k.g. The problem requir: special attention and they should for them is for an effective m eeting. be identified. Now, we have to purchase tomatoes at One crop zone areas should be identified Rs. 5 a k.g. higher than what we pay for and more credit should be pumped into the apples. This requires an urgent and them by rural bank<. At every Anchal immediate and effective intervention. head-quart era in order to effectively prime Some of these bank officials* performance the agricultural pumps for higher production should be noted and those whose per* pumping of extra credit is a must. formance is effective and good should be rewarded irrespective of the seniority. Co-relation between credit and higher production in agriculture is immediate and I suggest that, side by side, in order to highly significant. But, I do not want to remove the imbalance, the public sector labour on the point. That will also help corporations should think of adopting in mobilisation of the masses for better- villages. A private firm in Ranchi has ing their own existence. That will aho adopted over 50 village* where they have develop selfreliance and, for that particular their own agronom’sts who are setting up purpose, we must mobilise adequate dc- a cropping pattern there; they are giving po its in the rural banks also in the second them Australian sheep and also some cows round. for da:ries. Unless we do that, the two- sector economy which is emerging out of Sir, the nationalised banks with their the introduction of new technology will high-salaried employe* have effectively go on gathering momentum and every increased the cost of credit facilities reflect- public sector corporation will be surround- ing the high interest rate. And th n ed by 200 to 400 village a which will have there is that Lakshman Rekha of 16 k.m. the'r economy depressed. With an effec- beyond which it will not operate. These tive role of the public sector corporations officers have no adequate motivation, by adopting the villages and with the efforts they hardly ever go out of their office* of the nationalised banks as also the com- into the villages. That is one of the major munity development project authorities reasons why our economy in our part of by bringing them together, I am sure, we the country is not going up as fast as we can make an effective improvement in the had expected. They have, one reason or situation obtaining in the villages at the another, the absence of agronomists or the shortest possible time. The problem of B.D.Os are not supplying the ownership energy, raw materials and development certificates in time. Of course, that 16 are to be tied together. k.m. limit is there sometimes. These are the valid reasons. But, more often, those are excuses and alibis and unless we can MR. DEPUTY-SPBAKER: Have remedy the^e, 1 am afraid, that much of the that toy reference to any of theae demands? 20»p0int Economic Programmes will not be Not the general principle underlying, not ♦flfprtivflv imnkmtfited. even the orgnal demand*, can be di»- I6i Suppl. DG (Genl.) SRAVANA 29, 1898 iSAKA) 1976-77 162 cuss ed at this stage; only the portion relat- SHRI K. MAYATHEVAR: Sir, the ing to supplementary demands. hon. Member has put it correctly that the banks are giving loans to the capitalist SHRI CHAPALENDU BHATTA- group in the villages, towns and cities. CHARYYIA; In the supplementary These big sharks in industry are able to •demands, they have not provided for the satisfy the agents and the directors of the integrated development of solar power and banks and, as such are able to get loans. the agricultural pump sets whic'i hold sa The object of the Government is to pro- much of the promises for the village vide loans to the weavers,, down-trodden ■economy in the coming decades. people, dhobis, carpenters, village artisans MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You can and the petty businessmen but these people not do that in supplementary demands. are not able to get any loan at all. This is It is in original demands. the practical difficulty which I am placing before the hon. Members of this House, SHRI CHAPALENDU BHATTA- I have come across hundreds of such ins- CHARYYIA: I support the supple- mentary Demands for Grants. stances in my] constituency as well as my State. You must also take stringent SHRI K. MAYATHEVAR (Diidigul): action against th;se bank officials who are Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I support not helping the public in accordance with these supplementary demands but the objectives of 20-point programme. I further put more demands for Tamil Nadu. Sir, the Homs Minister visited Tamil Nadu recently and admitted that in ten MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You have districts out of fifteen districts there was only to refer to the supplementary demands drought and. . . before the House.Y ou cannot create more demands. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Is there I any demand for Tamil Nadu ? I am onl SHRI K. MAYATHEVAR: I am trying to point out to you the para- coming to that. So far as agriculture is metres of discussion. You can take your concerned, the price of fertiliser has not time and say anything you like but after been reduced. On the other hand, the you go back home pleas - road the relevant ^ , price of paddy in Tamil Nadu has got portions of the Constitution relating to the reduced considerably. The farmers are Supplementary Demands and rules for unable to purchase fertiliser since the price discussion thereon. of fertiliser has not been reduced in propor- SHRI K. MAYATHEVAR: Sir, the tion to the reduction in the price of paddy. IGovernor of Tamil Nadu also inspected I request the Government to consider I many districts and the Government grant- reduction in the price of fertiliser. ed rupees seven and a half crores for agri- culture developm ent, drought situation Sir, the hon. Member who preceded me and drinking water. In Tirunelveli dis- has put very valid points in regard to rural trict, the agriculture activity came to a banks. The rural credit should be avail- standstill. The agriculturists were unable able not only to the agr culturists but also to implement the agricultural activity and, to the village artisans and the poor needy as such, Rs. i crore were granted for each ipublic. No doubt, we have nationalised district. I plead with the Government to banks but we have to.. . grant Rs. 25 to 50 crores more than wha MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: There is has been granted. The amount of rupees no supplementary demand in the case of seven and a half crores is insufficient. I rural as well as nationalised banks. submit that you must sympathetically 1506 LS—6. 16$ A tp p t ..D&- (Gunl) . ■. [Shri K, JUiynfttHt) ..■■ o n ** in die f am Ytaar ttm .. Tbotrtnaag - capiider. the position of agpooltyrifia in you must girt d tta at taaK «ofMroeqr T p u | Nadu and grant a m money to more to protect the interests of the agrad- piqnde for the drinking water and to turftts Who are die baddbane «ir nmA ptqteot die small patfir landlord*, the poor economy. I f they produce itiort* ftorf- nawwpfoyed men and the down-trodden gfehu, the price* essential cotatoOdtflw people ia Tamil Nadu. Wit! come do** tar Tamil Nadu and" eBre- where. As a result of the emergency* iwaf die twenty-point programme, the . pricfe Then so far as relief to the agriculturists of essential commodities and agricaifturaf is concerned, in Tamil Nadu, the Presi- produce like wheat, paddy and flttnr desi the Governor, in o n c td things have come down. But eeocattyr exemption or debt relief only to those thev haye once agate gone ap. Those, agriculturists who had borrowed loans prices should not be allowed to go up; from private parties. There was no relief there yhould .be a continuous decline in> from indebtedness given to those farmers price so far as essential commodities are. who had borrowed from Societies, banks concerned. or Government or quasi-governmefttd authorities. It is like raying ‘Operation successful patient collapsed*. Therefore, ( Now there is no kerosene oil available* I would request Government to give them in Tamil Natita for the hrst one month. > Y6*t must take imnrdlate wp» to providr 1 caepiptian from repayment of all loans, kerosene oil to the Star. With thear - tp the .poor and medium farmers in Tamil words, I support the Demands. Nate, thereby giving protection to the long-affected farmers of Tamil Nadu. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATr SUSHILA ROHATGI): At the outset, Side by side, these farmers should also I would like to thank each o f the bon. be given credit facilities. There is no use members who have participated in this giving only debt relief to agriculturists debate, making me wiser and. more well- tad artisans. You must give diem addi- informed after their suggestions. I would tioaalprotection by way of credit facilities also like to thank you for drawing their jfrom rand banks and nationalised banks. attention to the relevant articles of the Now because of die morotorium on loans Constitution and rules within the limits taken by agriculturists and the debt relief of which discussion on these Demands provided to the farmers, the fanners are should be controlled. But by and large* unable tq .get any loan from any money- we have seen that members, because of lenders. They are unable to even mortgage their anguish at the conditions obtaining their jewels or even vessels. Poor people in their constituencies, do realise that they used to pawn their clothes and car s also have to voice their feelirgs. So We do for loans. Even then the moneylenders find that apart from confining themselves; are not accepting those properties and strictly within the rules in regard to dte articles and giving them money. The discussion of the Supplementary Dennnds*. result is that they are unable to carry on they have aired the'r views beyond their their day to day life or business in die field scope of this discussion. But they Would as well as elsewhere. Therefore, I request excuse me if I do not reply to diose points. th»Qovemmcsa to make mare proriuaafac But I can assure them that all the point#'1 agriculture not only in Tamil Nadu but they have made will be. conveyed to the throughout India because the fanning Ministries/Departments concerned and community constitutes 80 per cent of. am sure proper actipa Would be taken b j, 4, Irdia, but they are given only 20 percent them. l6 5 Suppl. DG (G enl.) SR A V A N A 29, 1898 (S A K A ) 1976-77 i66 MR. DBPUTY-SPBAKBR: It is diffi- discipline is absolutely necessary more cult to hold the Members under leash. I now than at any time before. Our stock do not Want the Ministers under leash. position is better noW. On the industrial front, the growth was 2.5 per cent in SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI: 1974-75 compared to 5-7 per cent in i975- I am sure I do not need it. 76. There are indications that With dis- Apart from that, by and large, the House cipline and determination in our fields and has given its support to the Demands, factories, the industrial growth rate is likel though many of the members who have to be of the order o f 10 to 12 per cent this spoken are not in the House just now. year. They are very good signs for the country. Power position has definitely Hon. Members Will realise that theie is a improved. Apart from the above,' various lot of difference in the economic situation other economic measures had also been today; therefore, when they raised some taken such as curbing the expenses under points, they probably forgot the changed Government, both in the States as well as conditions of the Indian economy. There in the Centre. We find that there has is buoyancy in our economy and there been economy though there Was always is lestoration of faith and people have scope for further improvement. The confidence that We have made a break- through and there are going to be better Government had issued instructions that days even. They have brought in so many there should the utmost economy in points and therefore I should like to make Government expenditure and avoidable a brief review of the economic situation. expenditure should not be incurred. Our tax collections have also increased and The workers in the factories and the pea- our savings have improved. Some hon. sants in the farm have laboured to produce Members have taken keen interest and I this situation and then the policy of the should therefore like to say to them that Government and the strategy ofthe Govern We have exceeded our targets and collec- ment and the co-operation of the people tions vmder small savings this year arc have all yielded results and We find that Rs. 90 crores more than the last year and I there is a much better climate today. It hope this trend Will continue. Further We is a fact that India is one of the very few also find that our balance of trade position countries in the WJrld that had contained and the foreign exchange position is satis- inflition and hal brought about a negative factory. Some of these gains have accured rate of inflation. Many developed countries because of the policies of the Government have a higher rate of inflation, 5 to i2 per and also because of the discipline among centinflation. Fortunately India had made the people. We find that the people a record for itself in the World economy . stood together with the Government in In the agricultural Sector We find that bringing about economic improvement. there has been a record production of ii8 m'llion tonnes. There Was a slight delay in the arrival of the monsoon and when speculators tried to take advantage o f that situation and the s'taition gotrefljctei in One of the hon. Members pointed out the slight rise in prices, the Government that supplementary demands led to immediately acted. Because of the vigil- pumping of more money into the economy lance on the part of the Government as and he asked whether it Would not lead Well as stern measures and other policies to a rise in prices. That is the reason why ifcat Were adopted by the Governm ent, that credit Will have to be disciplined. Mone- trend had been brought under control. tary and fiscal measures have been taken That shows that the Government has to and Government will see to it that those be over vigilant and fiscal and monetary checks are there all the time. 167 Sup pl. DG (Genl) AUGUST 20, 1976 1976-77 168 [Sh timati SmhiU Rohatgi] be stopped. We want them to: go ahead Coming to sick textile uncjertakings, with their working.. 103 of these were nationalied arid a provi- The question of subsidies on fertilisers sion of Rs. 40 crores Was kept earlier. came up and some members said thatth’s But .it could not be utilised. Now this subsidy i s goipg to the rich manufacliurets. ainqunt is being drawn through su'pple- I would like to say that th's is not the con- ipentary demands. These sick mills Were cept. This subsidy will go through the running at losses. The loss on this score manufacturers to the farmers. This is going alone came to Rs. 7-5 crores per month. to help not the b'g sharks but the ^mall I am glad to inform the House that be- farmers who really need it. I am happy cause of various steps taken by the Govern- ■ to announce that because of the reduction ment, together with the cooperation of the in prices for which subsidy is' requirecl, workers, to day the position is much better. there has been a greater off take of' ferti- ■ lisers. The increase in consumption has SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA gone up by nearly 34 % • That shows' that ' •(S"W'mpore): Is there no loss on production also increases and naturally th’s ■ account 6f these mills now ? is going to help our agriculture and our ' SHAIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI: economy as a whole. This should allay The loss Was Rs 7-6 crores in April 75. the fears, if any, in the minds of hon. The latest figure of loss is Rs 1-25 crores members. ‘ ■ for July, 76. We do hope that these At the time of presentation of the budget, losses will be wiped out completely and a sum of Rs. 15 crores was to be given to in that the hon. member can be of great the Finance Ministry for integrated rural help, if he wants. We do hope that ulti- development. But later on it was decided mately these losses will bb completely to allocate this sum not to the Finance wiped out and converted into gains. Ministry but to the Department of Rural For modernisation of the mills, various Development. It was said last time that i plans have been drawn up both for the the money is lying wast that it is not present and for future and we are sure surrendered, etc. Because there had been these will yield results. Many of these a change and because the money cannot be text ile mills are earning foreign exchange transferred from one to the other, it is and we do hope that the exports will go being surrendered from Finance and asked .up in courfe of time. Two of these for in a supplementary demand under the mills which belong to Kar.pur to which Department of Rural Development. I AAr. Banerjee has referred—Lakshmi hope hon. members will appreciate that the Rattan Mills and Atherton West Mills— strategy for rural development will go a were nationalised only recently. I do not long way in sustaining our economy and know why Mr. Banerjee who choosesto quot giving employment to our people. my name in connection with so many other thirgs kept out my name when the taking The question of the sixth instalment of over of these two mills came, but I leave DA also came up. I think only recently it at that. I would like to inform the an answer has been given about it. We House that the proposal of the Mini stry of find that the index average which went Commerce for releasing a sum of Rs. 2- 74 down below the 320 mark in January 76 crores, out of the sum of Rs. 5-90 crores has consistently declined since then. The which will be required for this, for working figure for Jime 76 is 303 '75 - I may capital margin and iihmediate renno vation assure the House that the representatives of these two mills has been approved and of the employees will be consulted before str ction for th” realise of the funds has been taking a final decision regarding the sixth issued. We do not want their working to instalment of DA. 169 Suppl. DG (Genl.) SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) 1976-77 A question was raised about the pay- recruitment is generally done from the scales of supervisors and draftsmen in the States concerned, and so those posts arc defcnce establishments. We arel already not advertised in the Employment News, aware of the position and a decision is which has all India circulation. Now going to be taken on this shortly. Punjab State has decided to start its own Employment News. Such newspapers SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: The final will naturally carry advertisements for decision rests with Finance. It is for the posts in the lower grades also. Normally, Finance Ministry to okay it before it goes it carries advertisements for posts carrying to the Cabinet. • salary of Rs. 500 and above. SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI: One hon. Member mentioned that In fact, a question is pending on this sub- there is no demand for education. This ject, which is likely to come up next week. is not main budgetary allocation but supplementary demands. It is a matter of Then, a very senior member, Shri satisfaction, rather than a matter for Tiwari, wbD is one of our leaders ir the criticism, that the Education Ministry party from the days of the freedom struggle, have been able to manage with in their chose to make a number of charges; in fact, allocation, rather than coming for a sup- I would not call them charges. Unfor- plementary demand. tunately, he is not present here to hear the Then, many hon. Members waxed reply. There was nothing very specific eloquent on family planning. I am speak- in what he said which I could enumerate. ing on this subject, not as a Member of He said in a general way that there has Parliament but as one of the women in been corruption, there is no d scipline, the the country, and I say that this should Government servants are free to do what be taken up on a war footing. I feel that th y like and so on. I would like to say the incentive that is provided is still quite that in order to gauge the administrative good. But we should not look at it efficiency of the Government officers, purely from the point of view of incentive. periodically the r work is reviewed. I think every Member of Parliament, as a According to the latest information, the representative of the people, should go to cases of 55,587 Government servants the various parts of the country and carry have been reviewed, out of whom 2,048 this programme as a beacon light to every Government servants have been retired, 12 nook and corner of the country, because belonging to Class I, 56 belonging to Class there are still people in this country who II, 1,420 belonging to Class III and 560 are not aware of the significance of this' belonging to Class IV. 31 Government campaign. We should take it not as a servants have been reverted to their sub- negative aspect, but as a positive pro- stantive posts as a result of the review. gramme. I am told that every time a That shows that Government is not sitting human pulse beats three babies come into pretty on th s, but taking steps which are the earth. We cannot allow this rate of absolutely necessary, in the larger interests population growth, especially when 40 of the administrative efficiency of the percent of our people are living below the country. subsistence level when our per capita income is so low. Because, existence Some hon. Members referred to the does not mean satisfying the hunger or Employment News and said that it was catering only to high salary posts. As a having two square meals a day. matter of fact, we find that even posts of As We are heading towards a socialist, apprentices are advertised there. So far classless society, which is our goal, the basic as posts in the lower grades are concerned, amenities of life should be provided to i7* svppi. m |Smt Su&hil* Rohatgi] SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI: A ta . As such, fiiihily planning shndd I do not know wb»t the factual position reiflly becbme the flag of oar future pro. IS but we wall onsider it. fruune, because With it is linked the fonre The Wider question of family (Man- Of the country Therefore. I am glad ning as such is one wMch concerns *11 tfcgt Some of our younger Members parti- the Banerjees, the Rohatgis and the cipated in the debate alorg with the elder Bhattacharyyas. So it has been decided people. All of us should be united in that representation in the Lok Sabha this not onl> on the floor Of the House* and the State Legislatures will be frozen not only in the speeches made here, but on the basis of the 1971 census until the wc; should link this programme with year 2,001 Therefore, the foar of th c every speech that we make m any part of Member that this may have some effect th [Mr. Deputy Speaker] The motion toas adopted. Demands Nos, i, 2, 7» 25 [The Demands for Supplementay Grants 29> 30, 32, 38, 39>4*» 48, 5i> 61* 65, 76, 83 to 85, 88 and (General), 1976-77, which were voted by 89/’ Lok Sabha are shown below— Ed.] No. o f Name of Demand Amount of Demand for Demand Grant Voted by the House 1 2 3 Revenue Capital Rs. Rs. MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGA- TION X Department of Ag ricu ltu re...... 20,85,000 ,, 2 Agriculture...... 60,00,00,000 .. Department of Rural Development 7 15*00,00,000 •• MINISTRY OF COMMERCE 14 Foreign Trade and Export Production 1,000 40,68,00,000- MINISTRY OF DEFENCE J 25 Capital Outlay on Defence Services . . *• i5>oo,ooa MINISTRY OF ENERGY 29 Ministry of E n e r g y ...... 3,78,000 30 Power D evelop m en t...... •• 32,00,02,00a MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS 32 Ministry of External Afijurs ..... 2,50,00,000 MINISTRY OF FINANCE 38 Transfers to State ar.d Union Territory Goverr merts . 9>40,73,ooo ,, 39 Other Expenditure of the Ministry of Finance . 58*56,60,000 DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AND BANKING 41 Department of Revenue and Banking 3,45*000 **• MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY PLAN- NING 48 Family Planning...... 5,00,00,000 • • MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS 51 Department of Personnel and Administrative Re- 1,000 • • 177 *P P r- Wo. 5) SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Bill, 1976 i 7fc 1 2 3 MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND CIVIL SUP- PLIES 61 Industries...... 1>000. MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROAD- CASTING 65 Information and P u b lic it y ...... 1,00,00,000 MINISTRY OF PLANNING 76 Department of Science and Technology . . . 2,00,00,000 MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES 83 Department of S t e e l ...... 5>50,ooo 7,28,79,000* 84 Department of M in e s ...... 6,00,000 85 Mir.es and M in e r a ls ...... 1,23,00,000 1,98,00,000* MINISTRY OF SUPPLY AND REHA BILITATION 88 Department of Rehabilitation ...... 46,00,000 DEPARTMENT OF ATOMIC ENERGY 99 A tomic Energy Research, Development and Industrial P rojects...... 1,000 14*50 hr*, Sir, I beg to movet :— APPROPRIATION (No. 5) BILL, “That the Bill to authorise payment 1976* and appropriation of certain THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE further sums frcm and out of the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI Consolidated Fund of India for SUSHILA ROHATGI) : Sir, I beg to the services of the financial year move for leave to introduce a Bill to au- 1976-77, be taken into considera- thorise payment and appropriation of tion.” certain funher sums from and out of the Consolidated Fund of India for the services of the financial year, 1976-77. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The question is : * . ____ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The “That the Bill to authorise payment question is : and appropriation of certain fur- “That leave be granted to introduce ther sums from and out of the a Bill to authorise payment and Consolidated Fund of India for appropriation of certain further the services of the financial year sums from and out of the Consoli- 1976-77, be taken into considera- dated Fund of India for the service* tion.” of the financial year 1976-77.” The motion was adopted. The motion was adopted. SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI: MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : We take Sir, I introducet the Bill. up clause-by-clause consideTatirn. ♦Published in Gazette of India Extraordinary, PaTt II, section 2, dft'd 20-8-76. tlntroduccd/moved with the recommendation of the President. 1 7 9 stai' R*sl' re- Increase AUGUST 20, 1976 in Export Duty on 180 Hides etc. [M r. D putySp akcrj the export duty on hides, skins The question is : and leathers, tanned and un- tanned, all sorts, but not in- ‘'That Clauses 2 and 3, the Schedule, cluding manufactures of leather Clause i, the Enacting Formula from 20 per cent ad valorem and the Title stand part of the to 25 per cent ad valorem ; B ill” (b) No. G.S.R. 743(E), dated the 2nd The motion toas adopted. August, 1976, levying export Clauses 2 and 3, the Schedule* Clause 1 > duty on animal feed at the rate the Enacting Formula and the Title were of Rs. 125 per tonne under the added to the Bill. new Heading No. 21, in the Second Schedule to the said SHRIMATI SUSHILA ROHATGI: Act; Sir, I move : * (c) No. G.S.R. 745(E), dated the “ That the Bill be passed.” 2nd August, 1976, for substi- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The tuting the entry ‘Mica’ in Heading ^question is : No. 8 in the Second Schedule “That the Bill be passed.” to the said Act by the entry ‘Mica, including fabricated The motion toai adopted. mica’ from the date of each of the 1 4 .5 2 hr*. notifications aforesaid.” STATUTORY RESOLUTION RE. The Customs Tariff Act, 1975, was brought into force with effect from the INCREASE IN EXPORT DUTY 2nd August, 1976, replacing the Indian ON HIDES, SKINS ETC. Tariff Act, 1934. Heading No. 14 of MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : We the Second Schedule to the new Act, -now take up the Statutory Resolutions. wh'ch refers to hides, skins and leathers, Mr. Pranab Kumar Mukherjec. tanned and untanned, all sots, but not induiing manufactures of leather, showed THE MINISTER OF STATE IN- a rate of export duty of 20 per cent. How* CHARGE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ever, the corresponding entry under the REVENUE AND BANKING (SHRI Indian Tariff Act, 1934, carried the export PRANAB KUMAR MUKHERJEE) : duty of 25 per cent ad valorem. Sir, I beg to move the following Resolu- tion :— Notification No. G.S.R. 741(E) dated the 2nd August, 1976, seeks to increase “ That in pursuance of sub-section (2) the rate of duty from 20 per cent to 25 of section 8, read with sub-section per cent so as to maintain the natus quo (3) of section 7, of the Customs ante. Tariff Act, 1975 (5* of *975)> this House approves the following By Notifiction No. G.S.R. 743(E) dated notifications of the Government the 2nd August, 1976, a separate Heading of India in the Department of No. 21 has been added to the Second Revenue and Banking (Revenue Schedule to the Customs Tariff Act, i 975> Wing), namely :— for animal feed with export duty at the rate of Rs. 125 per tonne. Export duty Was Here what we are doing in this parti- cular matter both in hides and in animal 15*07 hrs. feeds is this. We, in consultation with the Commerce Ministry, have brought STATUTORY RESOLUTION RE. this notification. I do feel, that more and CONTINUANCE IN FORCE OF THE more it should be our endeavour to see PROCLAMATION IN RESPECT OF that we are in a position to export finished NAGALAND leather instead of raw hides and skins and MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We now the whole objective of imposing export take up the next item on the continuance duty is with that end in view. What should of the Proclamation in respect of Nagaland. be done in relation to exports to the friendly Shri Brahmananda Reddy. countries and in what way the improve- ment of the leather industry can be taken THE MINISTER OF HOME AF- care of—these I can pass on to the concer- FAIRS (SHRI K. BRAHMANANDA ned ministry. REDDY): Sir, I beg to move the following Resolution: MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- “That this House approves the con- tion is: tinuance in force of the Proclamation, “That in pursuance of sub-section dated the 22nd March, I 975> in respect (2) of section 8, read with sub-section of Nagaland, issued under article 356 (3) of section 7, of the Customs Tariff of the Constitution by the President, Act, 1975 (51 of 197$), this House for a further period of six months with approves the following notifications effect from the 26th September, J » 1*7 Stitt. Real, re Cont AUGUST 10, 1W* id fo tte $ JPreet iffe nw. o f Afa0alamt [ Shri K Brahmananda Re<* ’y ] h’gheit importance to the fuffitmeat of th* The han. Members wiU recall that the 20-Pbtat Economic Programme. Resolution for the continuance of Presi- dential Proclamation in Nagaland far a Aa I atated earlier, the present tens of further period of six months was passed President's Rule is to. expire on the *jdi by this august House on the nth Match, September, 197c. if elections are t* b* 1976. The Proclamation will be in force held before this date, die amngMMM* u£ to and inclusive of 25th September, will have to be made during the monsoons i9?6. A brief report highlighting the im- which are quite heavy in die natrti awwm portant measures taken by the State region and oomimte till the rakbfte q f Government and the various achivements October. During this period, the camb (typing the period of President’! Rule for munication remains uacertrn aad the, Nagaland upto the 31st July, 1976 has been movement is dificuh. This is alia 4 *- eugenhtod for the information of the hon. penod when die vast majority «f p m lt Members in the House. The most important are tied with agricultural operations development in the State since the imposi- provide the taainstay for their w a g snfr tion of President’s Rule was the peace The implementation of the Shillong Aaawft taBa with underground Nagas wh ch cul- i& proceeding apace under the Fxestdant’S- minated in the Shillong Accord signed Rule in the State and a new attnotpfcetc on rt-d-1975 This Accord is a distinct of peace, harmony and orderly prafraji: landmark in the History of Nagaland. is being built up. Holding of elections, a Under the Accord, the underground ele- this juncture may create now complica- tions which may even provide a setback ments have accepted unconditionally the to the process of normalisation in the State. Camtitution of India. They have ako undertaken to abjure violence and to bring out weapons The implementation of the It is accordingly felt that peace must Sh'Uong Accord has been going on satis- be consolidated and further prqgreas- factorily. There have been no violent made in th s d reckon before efcettoot- incidents by the underground in the State are held Government, therefore, is of the since the signing of the Accord The considered view that the President's ntle Government, on their behalf, have released in Nagaland should be continued for all prisoners detained in connection with another period of six months with effect the insurgency includ ng underrrials and from 26th September, 1976. detenus as a gesture of goodwill With these words, I commend the Resolution for the approval of the Ho«qe. Government are anx ous that with the return of peace and normalcy, Nagaland MR. DFPUTY-SPEAKER Resolu- should forge ahead m econom c and social t on moved • development A number of steps have been taken in this direction during President's “That th s House approves the con- Rule Execution of plan and development tinuance in force of the Proclamation, project* has been sought to be speeded dated the 22nd March, 1975, in respect up The Fifth Plan prov s on has been of Nagaland, issued under art cle 35^ increased to Rs. 83 47 crorcs, the per of the Constitution by the President^ capita outlay in. the State now bong one for a further period of s x months- of the highest n the country The pro- with effect from the 36th September, vis on for the Annual Plan has been ra sed 1976" to Rs 17 7 crores as aga nst an ant c pated expend ture of Rs 15 crorcs *n 1975-76 SHRI S. M. BANERJBE (fUqpir): The State Government, are attaching the Generally, speaking, we do not support 189 Stat Rest, re. Cont. SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) in force of ProcL 19a in res. of Nagaland extension oi Proclamations. But if it is the they will equally be friendly with you. contention of the hon. Min ster that That is their characteristic. I am sure they because of certain conditions prevailing have done this in genuineness in their heart in Nagaland, after the Naga rebels have and they have done it with very good in- almost surrendered themselves and their tention. activities are under check, it is necessary to keep that atmosphere for some time But that is not all. Nagaland has to be before elections could take place, I think developed. Their young men have to be that is a very reasonable stand for Govern- provided with jobs, because Nagaland and ment to take. And we Members of this the people of Nagaland cannot be controlled Home cannot possibly oppose any exten- merely with the help of the Border Security sion of President’s rule or demand im- Force and the CRP. It is an integral mediate elect :ons because we are also on part of the country and the people of extension. So naturally if the life of this Nagaland must feel that they are an i ntergral House is to be extended because of the part of India. Nagaland has to be an inte- abnormal situation for a year, why not gral part of India both industrially and extend President’s rule in Nagaland for agriculturally. Then there will be no aix months ? trouble. How was this trouble created ? There were some sections which went The question— There has been a noticeable improve- While all efforts are thus being made for ment in the law and order situation in development of the State a n d Welfare the State. The anti-social elements and of the people, the administration is the members of banned organisations have facing a difficult task on account of the b e e n appropriately d e a lt with under the failure of north-east monsoons for the law. Clandestine circulation of prejudi- Second successive year, resulting in scar- cial literature, Waic’i Was not earnestly city conditions in 10 out of 15 districts. tackled by the previous Government has T h e Central Government have already been brought under control. The labour sanctioned Rs. 7-5 crorestoWards drought situation has shown distinct improvement relief measures. Drought relife measures since the im^jsition of Presidnet’s Rule and relief operations are in full swing in and Several labour disputes involving non- these districts. To overcome the problem payment of W ages, retrenchments, lay- of scarctiy of drinking Water, 32,000 offs and strikes etc. have been resolved. bore-Wells have been sunk out of a total programme of 6,300 bore-Wells. Hon. Msmbers would recall that Soil conservation, afforestation, conven- there W ere complaints earlier that the 2 0 - tional programmes relating to medium Point B e anomic Programme W as not and minor irrigation and roads have been being effectively implemented in Tamil undertaken to provide employment in Kadu under the previous Government. the affected districts. In July, the employ- There has been a vast change in this regard ment created was 27 lakh man-days. since the imposition of the President’s Rule, and the State Government are T h e present term o f president’s Rule attaching n oW the highest importance to in Tamil Nadu is due to expire on the 9th the fulfilment of the new Economic September, 1976. T h e adrninistrative programme. In the W ake of regulatory machinery in the State is now tied down and punitive measures undertken by the to the Urgent task of providing relief to the Government to ensure more effective dis- drought-affected people in the State. tribution of essential commodities, whole- Holding of elections before the expiry of sale and retail prices of rice and other the present term of the President’s Rule essential commodities have registered a Will thus not be possible. It would be noticeable decline. Legislative measures desirable also to manitain the current for liquidation of rural debts, socialisation drive in cleaning up the administration o f urban and urbanisable land have already and for speedy development and been taken. Other legislative proposa' Welfare in the State for some rime. Gov- f 597 Sfat. Resl. Re. Cont SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) in force of Prod /| 19 in res. Tamil Nadu ernmcm, therefore, is of the view that I5’3i}hrs. President** Rule in Tanrl Nadu should be continued for another period of six RESOLUTION RE. NATIONAL months with effect from ioth September* FOREST POLICY— Contd. 1976. Rajya Sabha has already approved the requisite Re tolution on the 17th Augusts MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We take 11976. up further consideration of the following Resolution moved by Mr. P. K. Deo: With these Words, I commend the Reso- lution for the approval of this august House* “ This House notes with concern the large scale denudation of forest in MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Resolution the country and urges upon the Gov- moved: ernment to have a more pragmatic national forest policy so that 33* 3 per “That this House approves the conti- cent area of the country is covered by nuance in force of the Proclamation, forest.'* dated the 31st January, 1976, in respect of Tamil NUu, is;u:J under article SHRI M. C. DAGA (Pali): I beg to 356 of the C onstitution by the Prisiden move: for a further period of six months witht That in the resolution,— effect from the ioth September 1976.” after'* in the country” insert----- We take up the Private Members Business now. “ , indifference of the States and formulation of separate policy by them in this matter” (1) ♦SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA (Vi- 15 * 3 1 h r s . shnupur): MR Deputy Speaker, Sir, I wholeheartedly support the resolution of COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE MEM- Shri P. K. Deo. regarding national forest BERS* BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS policy. SHRI DHAMANKAR (Bhiwandi): 15*32 hrs. I beg to move; [Shr i Vas ant Sat h b in the Chair] That this house do agree with the "Sixty-sixth Report of the Committee The National Forest Policy of 1952 had on Private Members' Bills and Reso- suggested that steps should be taken to lutions presented to the House on the encourage and expand the area under forest 17th August, 1976.” in our country and they had also suggested various measures as a result of the imple- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- ’tion is : mentation of which the country, could have forests extending over 33* 3 per cent “ That this House do agree with the area of our country. Unfortunately the Sixty- sixth Report of the Committee national forest policy remained a pious on Private Members’ Bills and Reso- wish and we could not do much to increase lutions presented to the House on the our foerst wealth. After 1952, the next 17th August, 1976.” concerted effort made the Govern* ment was in 1976 when the report of the The motion was adopted. National Commission on Agriculture was represented. This is no doubt a very com- prehensive report which has made many •The original speech was delivered in B -ngali. 199 National Forest , AUGUST 20, 1976 Policy (Rest) 209 •av. m [Shri A|it Kumar Saha] needs. For the same period of 1973*74 recommendations in regard to the deve- we spent a sum of Rs. 46*96 crores for lopment and utilisation of forest wealth. the import of newsprint, paper board and During the last 26 years we have not pulp etc. If we can fully develop the man been abU to achieve any progress in re- made forests in our country much of the gard to the development forests in our expenditure on import can be curtailed country. As per the figures contained in and to that extent our country’s /economy the 1976 report we find that in 1950 the will be benefited. We get a lot of things area undk’r man made forest was 29,210 from our forests. We get medicinal hectares. In 1972 there was a marginal herbs and honey from the Lungks of Sun- increase of 2-3 per cent of this derbans. I would urge upon the Gov- area and this proves how badly we have ernment to have well chalked out plans been neglecting our natural resourses. Not for rearing of bees and extraction of honey only this even the existing forests are not from the jungles of Sunderbans. This being utilised fully. A proper utilisa- will offer employment to the local people tion of the forest wealth will go a long and will also boost our national economy* way to improve the economic conditions of our country. It will not only I would like to make a special reference * help our defence efforts, communications about the way the bidi jungle* are being and other industries but it can in a big utilised at present. There are a number way help to solve the problem of une- of bidi jungles in the district of Bankura mployment which is prevailing in our of West Bengal and in the neighbouring country in menacing proporions. The State of Orissa. Most of these jungles administration of the forests is in the arc still being owned by the private tra- har ds of the State Governments. From ders. The workers engaged by these the report referred to above we find that traders get a nominal amount of 50/60 the total number of persons engaged by Paisa per dr»y and thus the owners comer the Central Government for the main- a huge profit out of the sale of the bidi tenance and development of foersts is leaves. The exploitation of these workers 93502. The number of technics! persons is indeed pitiable and I would request the engaged by these egcncies is however Central Government to exert their influ- not mentioned in this report. These ence on these two State Governments so figucrs only indicate that we are not paying that special legislation is passed, to safe- adequate attention to the forests that they guard the interests of the bidi leaf colle- deserve. Not only this the amount ctors. I would also request the of money spent by each State Government Central Government to nationalise the for this purpose is also quite insufficient. forests that are still in private hands. With Paucity of funds is no dobut one of the these measures, I am sure we would be chief handicaps for the State Gover- able to make a better progress in the nments to develop forests in our country sphere of forest development in the cou n and'I would therefore request the Central try than before. Government to give liberal assistance to the State Governments so that they can sft *r*r w z *mT s m rM h1 make best use of the forests. Needless 3ft, f r o snrn; tnrrcr whrr to mention, Sir, that the forests are also a ? | <3pr qr srftr* good foreign exchange earners. During ft SPTR sntft 1973-74 we had exported forest pro- ducts to a nme of Rs. 95*42 crores. While *ft*rr esm srro% #?ft % fo rm zftsnrr m * r i , i 8 % ^R trf ?rf ^ ST* spnff * g^TcU 5TRT qft, fsrr fa f^j^rnr v( fa^ fr t ^ z h srcnr 7 ?r fcarr 3rfa?r *r*rc fatft ? ? 5TJTT^ 3rr ^ f — sfrr^T % fqrr STmrT *nr ?t 5TT s W S f f a * *?t f^ T c T «rr ^ i p t % i f ^ 1 t « sn*fwy ¥Trrr - g ta sprrjr % t u t u snrnr ■m • *rnr f ?Ft sr*t 1 50-60 5=rrar 3ft ?=r*r^r wjW xftx j v *1 t f ^ *rrf&r 1 vrrr r m f *flvr | i w j * V?TT fVf ^ ?wnt f W f t trm tft 9|7T i sr? v r r t f d ^ ’WT Pr? aft i p *ft [ « fr i j ^ r ^ t r t ] T?*rT irtr ^rr faqr 1 ^ f< c ? f> T ^ T T f R r ^ r f f t r 1 jr'TT^r ’ *p*ft?R % *t ^ffa{?R fawrr % ^ ^ 3T ^ | $ w pt * t % *rif T'J=Tr 5 “ In view of what has Ibeen stated <*fw % *57 efTsr above, the revised national policy of 1 faro sTfnr ^ft i r innr India be based on the following impor- 35T ^ t %9R?T total ar ia should be under forests* Even the fy&ft « F tf ?rflf t o i i ‘ i f t r # f s n f 22 per cent I mentioned is the average; *1% ftsr# SPTT WX& | ? there are states in India where the total it WT ^ ^ tft fVJTi area under forests is only 5-6 per cent of the total land area of the state. I think H H H I 3 U*TT 3JTKT T**n ?TT STPT with proper scientific management of our ^ fa TPTT TS Ti «PT ^rgf ^TrTT forest wealth, we could add to our national § i *fr *rrT*f? * {Wi'Chmtamani PaatgwhQ KM «f«oad then, noM oqpritcf fKtewr domestic fuel in India annually, which health centres, « c . As ywl know, Kendo amounts to burning up fertiliser equi- leavea are used to prepare biria and in valent to the production of more than my State the forests provide employment eight Sindrt fertiliser plants. Nearly to 3 lakhs of people. In the whole country, four million hectares of utilisable land had the forests provide employment to abovt been permanently lost to productive agri- 30 lakh of people. Under the 30 p»iqt culture through the formation of ravines. programme, our atm is to provide employ- ment to millions of people I think a Mr. Daga has already quoted from the scientific management of forests cm pro- Estimates Committee’s report. In 1974-75, vide employment to 10 million people every the Estimates Committee has stated in its year. report that the National Forest Policy Re- solution envisaged that 2000 crores of trees Some of the East African countries are would be necessary to restore the hydro- earning as much as Rs. too crores in logical nutritional balance of the country foreign exchange from their wild life and under the Land Transformation Pro- sanctuaries We can double this income gramme of the Central Government, plant- if we can properly develop wild life «■»«>*- ing of 30 crores of trees during ten years -tuancs in this country Some experts was planned, but government had not have suggested that if you invest Rs 1,125 undertaken any specific scheme under this crores in a phased manner, India can be programme made green I do not know how much money the government will be able to About the development of forest roads, spend and what the planners have thought the committee states about it But Shri Sanjav Gandhi's call to the van masses of youth to make India “The committee are concerned to green bv their involvement i We are saying that we are going to Shinde is familiar, which is on the amend the Constitution to include educa- West Coast, which has the densest tion in the Concurrent List. It is our forests in the whole state of Karna- suggestion that forest wealth should tata. We give the State exchequer Rs. also be included in the Concurrent List, 18 to Rs. 20 crores of forest revenue every so that the Centre can get involved in the year. The injustce that is be’ng dene to implementation of this programme of mak- the forest areas, which I am afraid has not ing India green in the coming few Years. yet been high lighted, at the politcal level* In fact a proposal in this regard has been is entirely be ng done by the nonforest brought before the Prime Minister and it areas of this country. The forest areas may come before the Cabinet very soon. are being treated today as very convenient I hope that Shri Shinde, who is determined sources of revenue where you nvest to do something when the Government nothing. For an industry you have to intended to do something, will pay some invest in capital, for agr culture you have attention to this problem.J to invest in inputs, you have to provide credit and infrastructure but when it SHRI B. V. NAIK (Kanara) : Mr comes to' the cutting down of forests, you Chairman, like our learned friend Shri doit i nd‘scrim nately. I will not say what Panigrahi, I also c me from a forest area. the baser officials in the bureaucratic There is not much that it can add to what mach nery do when it comes to a question has been said on this subject by the Move of linking with the forest contractors who of the Resolution, Shri Deo, with aU his are sources of revenue for other purposes, concern for the forests, and Shri Daga but tak ng the r ght royal path by wh'ch and Shri Pan>grahi. money goes into and comes out of the Con- soli dated Fund of Ind a, you take Rs. 20 The main thrust of the Resolution seems crores and you are not paying back or to be to have 33 per cent of the Indian ploughing back into the forests even Rs. sub-continent as forest ares. I am 1 crore. How can we think in terms of sure That Shri Deo has in mind is not the lofty resolution of Mr. P. K. Deo that a uniform 33 per cent for all States, because the whole country should become green there could be states which wiU have forests and that there should be forests growing more than the prescribed limit of 33 per galore in the whole country? It is plainly cent, while there may be other States which impossible until and unlef s the Government have very little scope for having forests. of India comes down with a firm hand and For instance, take the Ingo-Gangetic plan, says that at least 50 per cent should be put where we cannot think of having 33 per back into the forest out of what is taken cent of forests. At the same time, in the out as forest revenue, with an exceedingly sub-Himalayan range, from where ShrA good price for timber. Then, you wiU Mahajan comes, or the Western Ghat area, be able to keep the forests neat and in the forest area will be more than 33 per tact, in a wonderful condition. You have cent. I hope what the mover meant is an not been doing it. average of 33 per cent, whereas the present When our Home Minister, Shri Br?h- average is only round about 20 to 22 per mananda Reddy, was the Chairman of the cent. Sixth Finance Commissic n, I brought this I come from a district (I am not refe- to his kind notice, but unfortunately it rring to my constituency, which is much feU on sympathetic but deaf ears. There bigger) which has 4,500 sq. miles of forests. is in certain areas, in regard to finance, At one time, 85 per cent of the area of that what we call indigenous colonialism. It district was under forests; now it has come is not imported. Multi-national and other down to 65 per cent. I am referring to the people are involved in it, it is plan, indigen- district of North Canara, with which Shri ous, made-in-India colonialism when thd> J f ■■ , ' " , , . ■>. 3 IJ National Forest AUGUST 20, 1978 .* Policy (Real) 216 1 r [Shri B* V. Naik] ests in this country, particularly at leas t backward areas of this country,, more as far as my district is known, on my per- particularly the hilly and forest areas, are sonal experience, are not going to reach made to serve the interests of the more 33 per cent, your forests are heading , advanced parts of the country and that is towards extinction and in the process, where exploitation takes place right under quite a few people will become fabulously our own nose when we want to remove rich. But your whole country and its regional imbalances. I am afraid the Res- ecological balance will be distorted and earch and other wings of the Government destroyed beyond recognition. of India have not been able to pay their attention to it. Therefore, the request for I would, therefore, welcome the Reso- the inclusion of forests in the Concurrent lution. But will the hon. Minister on List has not come a day too soon. It such a vital subject which concerns our is most perfectly timed. ecological balance, the rainfall, the mons- oons, the timeliness of monsoons and more You have constituted the Iniian Fores: important the resources which can be multi- Service as one of the All India Services, plied, do something concrete ? I think, the pci but who are the persons who have been acre yield of forest in this country stands taken into this service ? The same old at about Rs. 25 to Rs 30 as compared to bureaucrats who had made their names as about Rs. 350 to 400 in a country like Ger- corrupt officials and Rangers in the State many with reserved forests. 1:10 is the service. Could you not find better people? ratio. It is possible to make our own for- It contains the same people who colluded ests more productive, give encouragement with the lumber and forest contractors to those areas in order to protect and pres- for fighting out their cases in the Supreme erve their forests by starting forest-based Court regarding their seniority etc. The industries. Thank God, wc had a very gooi same people are back again in the Indian example of forest-based industries started Forest Service. What guarantee is there and But now they arc going for want of funds. what assurance that it will deliver the I hope, the hon. Minister will think in goods ? terms of a Forest Development C >rporation being ably a*sisted by Central assi- stance in order to sec that what is taken My friend Shri Daga may not know out is fed back there. If that is done, that there are a dozen ways in which the we can reach 33 per cent and we can have forests can be denuded. The marking a green India. is done by the Forest Guard. All of us from the forest areas know that an area of DR. V. K. R. VARADARAJA RAC about 200 or 300 acres is earmaked and then (Bellary): Mr Chairman, Sir I thought 1 there is a clearance around it, but the forest was my duty to take part in this discuss 10 contractor simply goes into the adjacent I had read about this item. area and nobody prevents him, he cuts down the trees, stacks them and sells them We have been talking a great deal aboi and makes up his quota. There is a lot of smuggling of sandalwood. I am afraid the forest policy> afforestation and s 20 that with the forest policy as at present and on and, I think, it was nearly or 2 years ago that Vanamohatsava was started the Indian Forest Service constituted as at present of officers who are in the hands if I am not mistaken, by the theii Minise of the lumber contractors and the forest of Agriculture, late Mr. K. M. Munsh contractors who carry on the duties of the Since then, every year there is a r.tui rforest policy, as at present, your entire for- when aU VIPs, go and plain trees. Some *17 National Forest SRAVANA 29, 189S (SAKA) Policy JRest) 218 times they are photographed; sometimes they ere not photographed. But nobody hears it seems t to me that one of the most impor- afterwards about those trees. One day, tant sources of nation-building, national Mr. Shinde wiU be in that same position* development in this country is the inc- having to talk about previous history of rease of our forest wealth. It is not merely planting trees. Life is always at a tangent* a question of exploitation of the existing i was not the Minister in-charge* of forests one, but it is a question ''of adding to our at any time. Mr Shinde happens to be the forest weatlh, making use of the land Minister of Agriculture for the Last ia which is unfit for anything except as forests. years . At least, he should be in a position The other day I was talking to a very dis- to say something about what has happened tinguished scientist. He said that the to trees which we have been planting for problem of Rajasthan could be solved the last 12 years. He should be able to when a haevy rainfall was there} they had say at least about some of the trees planted so many programmes ready, and as soon about 10 or 9 years ago. as there was a heavy rainfall, they would immediately plant millions of trees, and We have th* Vanatnohatsava. But we once that was done, later on they would fuve never heard about follow-up, whether be able to fend for themselves because they after three months or 20 or 15 days, the only needed so much heavy rains initially. VIP whi planted the tree even enquires' as I do not know whether that programme has to what has happened to the tree th-it he had been fulfilled in Rajasthan or not. I think, planted. I do not know whether^anything this year there has been a lot of rainfall. like follow-up of the tree plantation pro- This was told to me a couple of years ago. gramme is there. For a long time I have been feeling that one of the most neglected aspects of Indian agricultural economy is It seems to me that there has got to the forests. We have been doing very be a very systematic attempt at affores- well as for as food grains crops are concer- ting areas which are not afforested now and ned and also some of the cash crops even also at seeing that the forests which exist though many of the cash crops are wanting do not disappear. It is not merely a ques- in inventive and innovative research. But tion of wild animals, tigers and so on. not enough has been done as far as the I know, tigers are important. But more forests are concerned. than that, the most important raw mate- rial base today in the world is forest. There We have got a very good organisation, Was a time when gas Was not a base the Indian Council of Agricultural at all, gas Was being burnt away Research. We have got various research after the oil Was found. But now gas institutes dealing with various crops, vari- has become a most important Taw ous climates, local-based research region- material. As important as mines, based research and so on. But I do not know even more important than minerals,! r: whether the kind of research attention forests. And what is the amount o f money which is given to agricultural crops is that We are spending to see that our given to forest crops also. We give a forest Wealth is sustained, maintained, lot of attention to egricultural crops. expanded and increased. It seems to We are now giving some attention me that some kind o f an evaluation to dairy, not indeed as much as it on the subject, either in this ought to be. When we come down to discussion or elsewhere. Will be a useful forests, we seem to think that it grows thing to do, because, the country’s atten- by itself. Forests grow by themselves tion must be focussed on our forest pro- they die by themselves and they regrow blems and forest policy. It should not be by themselves. I know I am caricaturing. viewed merely from the point of view But I am doing it deliberately because o f spectacular public demonstration effect. 219 National Forest AUGUST 20, 1 9 7 | ^ > Policy (Jtetl) 220 tDr. V. K. R. Varadaraja Rao] In my state it Was during the period But taking advantage of the public demon- of one of the previous Chief Ministers- stration effect, w* should see to it that we {herewasa big programme for planting have some time-bound programme of fo- the State with eucalyptus. ThereJ rest development, region-wise, which can is such a thing as industrial •be progressed, monitored and evaluated. forests. So many things are required ' JU for industrial purposes. H*ve you any Programme for industrial forests ? Have you marked out 11 c areas where industrial forests can be \ ianted ? Sometimes we get factories on the basis of the existing I would like to mention something on forests, and after ten years, the factories /which I have been very much distressed. find that the supply is exhausted and there A longtime back—-this again goes back to is no Way of replanting. Tne Minister knows say previous history, because I Was not the case I am referring to. Is there a policy only a Minister like my friend, Mr. regarding industrial forests not merely in Shinde, but I also happened to b % in the Words, but in actual details, in terms of Planning Commission before that, I hope , plants, regions, commodities, investment, Mr Shinde will, one dav,findhimse If in that machinery for operation and so on ? p la c e nd the i he w 11 k v^w what happens to Plan-in the Plaining Commission had a oncrete programme of village forests. Everybody says that villages have no fuel, that the villagers are using as fuel all the manure and so on. The Prime Min- I am very glad that my friend, Mr. ister mentioned the other day about the Daga, referred to bungalows in hill use of bio-gas and so on. This has help d stations. I am not saying that people should some people, but the poorest people are not go and live in hill station, but at least not only bnween the Devil and the when these people go to hill stations, they deep sea but they are gating into the deep need not carry the magnificence of Mala- sea. It is an eononrc necessity waich bar Hill. Way do they Want to carry all drives the village pimple to u;e a> fuel their urban mi^nificjice to those places ? what, they kiow, is rai:h m>re useful as a fertiliser. B it w lat are We doing for their \ fuel requirements ?A longtime back We haJ a programme, in the Ministry of Agri- culture, of village forests: Wj Were supposed to take in each v llage a certain arnoui t of You can ccrtainly lay down a law. You wasteland and there Was to be a program- can say, ‘Nobody can build a house in me of grov ing quick-growing fuel-usable hill area bigger than such and such size Woods which w ju U supply the village and you can tell them that only in these with its fuel req l rements. T ms programme placesyou can b lild your houie*. Tnereforc must be mire than 13 or 14 years old. I Welcome the suggestion which has been I Want the Minister to tell the House what made by my friend that we must have has happened to this programme, some kind of a good, real and restric- how many villages have got the village tive policy regarding house construction fuel forests, w lether that programme has in hill areas, not only to preserve the been successful, w lether the re have b % ?n any beauty but also to see tha* the forest* difficulties, whether the pa 1 chayats have in those hill areas are protected. been able to do it or not, what exactly "its the 9 >sition regarding village fuel re- I would just like to say one or two wo- quirements. rds before I finish. Both my friends said 321 National Forest SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Policy (Reel.) 222 ‘put forests on the Concurrent List*. Sir, areas one of the reasons why we are hav- I Would like to go on record in this House ing this trouble about monsoon — as a mat- that putting a thing with which you are ter of fact in the olden days We never had not satisfied, in the Concurrent List does power cuts and reservoirs and' rivers rot not mean that the problem is going filling up and it is only a matter of the to Ibe solved.- I have the greatest last 15-20 years is that the catchment areas respect for the Government of India, are not being looked after properly. having functioned in its midst, but I do not think that the Government of India, located in Delhi, is capable of doing all the things that are prescribed as govern- mental functions. India is a vast country. The Minister knows it very Well. We It is a big country and this is a very simple also know that in the case of irrigation the answer, ‘If anything goes Wrong, put it most im wtant thing is the protection of in the Concurrent List*. But have you the catchment areas. But all the Water thought Whether the Centre has got all comes there but does not go through and the machinery to implement and all the flow down properly. If there is no proper resources for handling all the problems ? forest policy regarding catchment areas, ^ I can tell you my experience, both not only you do not get the Water there as a Member of the Planning Commission but when you get the Water you also get and as a Central Minister. I find the State a lot of erosion. The silt is carried, good officials are far more committed bacause soil is lost and a great deal of land also they are much more in touch with the gets lost. Therefore, I think a catchment people. The central officials are removed areas forest policy, industrial forest policy by two or three removes from the people and village/wood forest policy and a hill at large whereas your District Officials area forest policy—all these are required. and the State Officials, the State Agricultural Officer and others are very much more concerned with it. Therefore, I would like to say that this solution of putting every thing in the Concurrent List is no solution at all. I Would like to strongly go on record I would like to suggest to die hon Mi- as opposing this suggestion that in order to nister. I know there is a book— a fat 13 or 20 have a better forest policy you should put Volumes book brought out by the National it in the Concurrent List. I do not mind Commission on Agriculture. But unfor- having preservation of wild life in the Con- tunately, we, the Members of Parliament current List. Certainly put all the lions, are all very busy and We have got to do tigers, bisons —not buffaloes—and all that so many things and it is very difficult for us kind of wild animals in the Concurrent to read the 20 volumes even if one Wants List and I am sure the Central Govern- to do it. I would suggest: let Mr. Shinde ment will be able to tackle them* but do who is a lover of agriculture and a very not put all the forests in the Concurrent committed Minister, get a white paper pre- List. pared by his Ministry to let us know what the facts are about our forests. I was as- king Mr. Deo who Was just sitting behind me as to what is the percentage of forests. Finally, I just Wanted to Say how st- He says it is only 22.5%. I do not be- rongly I felt about a very important pro- lieve it because what is called even a shrub blem. That is about the catchment areas. is included in forests. Now Parthenium Do you kn ow in many of ^ e catchment grows wildly in Delhi and after some time, 333 National Forest AUGUST 20, W8 , 904. CDr. V.K.R. Varsdarafs Rao] times. But so for «s the hon. Minister is concerned, he knows vary well whit the Parthenium forests also stfill form those recommendations are. Members part of the 22.5 .% forests. As we have repeated the same thing. While I know, in the olden days* we used to do not wish to repeat the same thing, I have so much cultivable waste and every- would like to bring one aspect to his atten- body thought that India has 100 million tion. acres of land and this can be brought under extensive cultivation. But when There are short-term planning and long* we went into great detail, wc found it term planning. There are many things was not 100 million acres but It was only to be looked into on how to increase forest X4-I5 million icrcs Therefore, Ut us wealth. Forest industry can be best have som* prop.-r classification, let us developed for our industrial development. know what our forosts are, let us know Dr. V.K.R.V. Rao made certain valuable what is our forist policy, what is the pre- suggestions from his own experience. sent position, whit is the Budget and I think it is possible for us to do. After Here what I want to say is this. We all, the State Governments arc depending are implementing the 20-po nt programme, on the Central G ’v rnment lor as'istance, Fviry attention should be b'stowed on for technical assist tnce as will as fiuancial the need' of th • rural sector and the back* assistance. It seems to me. a white paper ward si ctor. on these lines can b.' mad'. This is the time when the youth ol tne country are taking to afforestation ard to trvim- Take Ons potentialities and very valuable timber, be some guidelines by the Centre so as to teakwood and other varieties which can abolish the contract labour system there. be developed. If there is proper planning, There is already a factory coming up. then, definitely, we shall be able to in- The people there are all technical in the crease our revenue. The m»in thrust of sense that they pluck the sal seeds our economic programme is how we can from the tree as well as pick the same from render real benefits to the adivasis and the ground. In Kalahandi, Phulbani and [Shri Giridhar Gomargo] I conclude by saying that though forest. in between. In the plains, they must be is the land of the tribal? 9ow, they should 17 given cultivable lard. As it is, the tribals not be left in the forest, but should be are born in the forest, they live in the brought to the plains and should be taught | forest and they die in the forest. When to live on the land in the plains. we are adopting a new policy, giving a new dimension to the economy and THE MINISTER OF STATE INj planning, why not give more emphasis THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE to stopping deforestation? I belong tp AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ANNA- the tribes. In the forest, there is large- SAHEB P. SHINDE). I am thankful scale cutting down of trees. Government to Shri P. K. Deo for moving this Reso- is giving money and land to, the tribals to lution in this august House, for because setxk on that land. of this Resolution interest has been evinced in this matter, which is one of the Priority should be given to those who very important aspects of our national are doing Podu cultivation. They should life. be brought to the plains and settled on land in the plains. They should be taught Many Members have participated its the techniques of modem cultivation. this debate; p i am particularly happy You will be surprised to know that tribals that one c f our very senior members, grow five or six crt ps in a year in the forest, Dr. V.K.R.V. Rao, has found time to* whereas if they are given land in the plains, come here and also participate in the debate they can grow only one or two crops. and make very valuable suggestions for That is why they prefer to be in the forest our consideration, land. So Government should give them cultivable lands in the plains and then It is known to all, and it is a matter of provide them with all technical facilities concern to all, that all is not well with the for cultivation. forests in our country. The specific There is a lot of forest wealth in the importance of forests from the points of Koraput district. There there is the view of ecology, soil conservation, protec- Dandakaranya project. A large part tion of the catchment areas and of fodder* of the forest was cut down. Because fuel and timber resources, all this is known. there are rwo or three electrical lines there, an irrigation project and so on, large-scale But unfortunately what has been happen- deforestation was takng place. There ing Perhaps this is not confined to India. are 300 kilometres of area in the Karaput Quite often we may draw an inference district where there was a proposal by the or gain an impression that only we in Government of Orissa, to which the Go- India are doing something very wrong; vernment of Irdia had also agreed, to that is not so. I am nr t justifying wrhat »s undertake aff restation. It was proposed | happening. If we look to the history of to provide some money for the afforesta- civilisation, we find the more the so called tion of this area. But the report has not civilisation developed, the more the forests yet reached the Government of India. I were destroyed. One of the very renown- would request the Minister that this dis- ed areas of forests, M( sopotamia, was at one trict should be taken as a priority basis time so dense a forest area that it produced and large-scale plantation should be the best timber in the world which was undertaken. Podu cultivation should so much in demand for ship building also be stopped. The Planning Commi- industry. What has happened to that ssion and the Ministry of Agriculture now? Middle East is a desert area now. ahould make the necessary provision for Major warfares also involving largescale this project. destruction of forests led to such a situation. 229 National Forest SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Policy (Resl.) 230' 1 ■%' Therefore, while we claim that we arc of that fort. I found not a single tree on advancing we are bringing about im- that fort. I asked them, what is the balances in our habitat and in the ecology rainfall here ? They said 120”. But established on this globe, and thus reduce not a single tree was there. Mr. or destroy some of the favourable aspects P.K. Deo has laid stress on what is happen- which make life in this globe happier ing in Orissa. This is no confined to any and fuller. This is hapening in many one State, it is really a national problem. other countries also but fortunately in Therefore, it is right that many hon. some countries at least there has of late members have expressed serious concern been an awareness and they have started about this phenomenon. developing forests. This realisation came to us a little late ; we were a colonial 17.00 h it. country and as soon as we attained inde- The issues are known. The main pendence, the late K.M. Munshi who was thing is, what to do about it. What Dr. the Agricultural Minister at that time, V.K.R.V. Rao mentioned is the crux of us Dr. V.K.R.V. Rao mentioned, put the matter. There is nothing wrong forward a forest policy resolution which about vana mahotsava. There are led to an awareness that something positive some weaknesses in it which have to has to be done to protect forests. The en- be removed. Trees were planted but lightened public of our country supported responsibility for looking after the trees that policy resolution but even after was never fixed. I am very clear in my that between 1951 and 1973 almost 3-4 mind that unless a tree planting programme million hectares of forests were denuded is tied up |with individual responsibility or destroyed. If statistics are worth being fixed for looking after the trees, no anything, that is what we have; technically improvement is possible. It is no use th>s much land has been taken out of the fixing responsibility on a whole village for forest area. There may be other areas looking after the trees. Responsibility which may be categorised technically as should be fixed on individuals and not forest area but trees will not be there and merely on paper. It should be done in a if we included that area abo, the total area realistic way with a sense of responsibi- would come much larger. We see this lity. Fortunitely, during the last one when we move around the country. The year, there has been a debate on afforesta- Himalayas in certain regions were so tion and planting of trees r it is a healthy dense forests; denudation had (taken place sign. Previously this matter was being there. So much so we find that the discussed amongst intellectuals without Bhakra system which we have constructed any practical programme. Now a practical at such an enormous cost is getting silted programme is coming up. Apart from at a fast rate. In the plains again soil fixing individual responsibility, the stage erosion is taking place at a very fast rate. has now come when some social conven- We are a monsoon country and one of tions have to be developed in this country. the characteristics of a monsoon If a child is born, why not plant a tree ? country is that we have torrential rains If somebody dies, why not plant a tree ? and a lot of the top soil is c irried to re- Instead of merely religious rituals— I am servoirs that we have built thus reducing not against them if somebody wants them— SHRI ANaSfASAHEB P. SHINDE: zens of this country* should try to under- Yes, that would be helpful. Now when a stand the basic milieu of this and not make j VIP comes, we see a race by people coining superficial statements. I am saying thisv with costlyf garlands to make their presence with due respect to the hon. Member .. felt. Instead of that, they can take the I hope he will not misunderstand it: veftpcmsibility for one tree. Then our It is not so much the legal framework or social life Will be healthier. the penalty, whether it is less or more, or. the organisational set up. i Although there is some merit in the m argument for bringing forests under the No country will succeed in protecting its* ©occurrer t list, it is not so much a question forest unless there is all-round awareness. of law. I appreciate the vital point made Unfortunately, in this country, with due by Dr. V.K.R.V. Rao Mr. Daga said respect to everybody i&d oding the poorer that our Forest Act is very old. I agree. sections of the society, that aWaieness is wanting. If somebody watches closely We asked the National Commission on every cow boy who goes to the forest Agriculture to examine it. VTe have come with his cow herd or the man who goetf to the conclusion that this Act has to be with a flock of sheep or goat he carries in brought up-to-cate. We have also con- his h«nd some tool to fell trees. The su lted a few States. Since' it is a State other day when I made a statement that subject, unless the requisite^ number of everyday at least 2$ lakh people are en- States support us, we shall not be in a gaged only in cutting trees, the Chief position to move the necessary Bill in Minister of very important State contra- this House. dicted me and said that I am making an under-statement, because the number is DR. V. K. R, VARADARAJA RAO : much larger ! In this country unless there Why net call a meetirg of the Forest is social awareness in all sections of the Ministers in Delhi ? No such meeting society, I do not think the forest wealth has been called so far. can be preserved. Here comes the role of the voluntary organisations like Youth SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE : Congress. Since it is a non-political issue We have got the Central Beard of Forestry everybody is welcome to help in this con- and also the Star dir g Committee on structive effort for the future of this coun- Forestry. As far as the Central Board of try, for the ecology of thisjeountry* even Forestry is concerned, all the Forest in the interests of the economy of this Ministers are members. It meets very country* because forest is so much inter- regularly. Only recendy, about 8 or 9 wined with our total wealth and econo- months earlier, it met at Hyderabad and I my. I do not think We can separate the presided over the meetirg. So far the forests from the other sectors of our eco- Stardirg Ccxnmittee on Forestry is nomy. Therefore, it is all the more ne- concerned, I presided over that meeting cessary to channelise the voluntary effort also at Simla only last June. If it is in whatever Way we can to protect and pre- felt that further meetings are necessary, serve our forests. * we w ill hold them. I am not objecting to it ; I am on a slightly different As far as the tribals are concerned, we issue. It is not so much the technicality have all sympathy for them. The Con- or the organisational set up. I am not stitution provides that the interests of the saying that the forest department is without tribals have to be protected. We cannot fault, or there is no need for improvement. pass any law which will go against the What I am Sayirg is that t* e social life interests of the tribals. The forest policy gets reflected in evei) Walk cf life. We, has to be evolved tin such a Way that the as practical politicians and seasoned citi- interests of the tribals are protected. -At 133 National Forest SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Policy (Real) Kashmir can sustain with the pr sent the same time, we cannot be completely pastures and forests the grazing of only 8 oblivious to the protection of the fore to 9 lakhs of cattle, but the cattle population wealth. Take the north-eastern part of there is 35 lak is. Grass is not allowed even I ndia, where there is shifting cultivation. to sprout. Before it sprouts, the cattle go Every year they cut mw forests so that and trample upon it. Whatever vegetation they can do agriculture. I do not think is there is also destroyed by them. Cattle, we can justify it. We have all our sym- When they starve, like human beings, eat pathies for them and We have to find a even bitter leaves and survive. solution to their problem. This uncerain agriculture does not provide them sufficient There are two very important issues yield either. I have seen in some areas involved. Shri Panda has left. I am they grow both paddy and maize together, not raising the issue of cow protection, while the water requirements for both but what is the number of cattle which are different. This problem can be solved can possibly and economically be [sustained,, only if We educate the tribals on scientific which will not go against the protection of farming. forests ? Basically, all this has ito be There is talk of decentralisation. In gone into. This is not a sentimental, the north-eastern part cf the courtry religious issue. It has to be decided there are beautiful forests in Meghalaya, purely on pragmatic and realistic con- Mizoram and Tripura There you will siderations, and we should have a clear- find the denudation of forests taking cut policy. place at a rapid pace. The forests there are not under the State Government, Recently I was in Chakrata, near Dehra but undcT the District councils, and the Dun, which has a very good forest. I District Councils are not in a position found cattle grazing in the reserved forest. at a 11 to provide any leadership. Do we I asked the U.P. officials who those persons wait till all forests are destroyed in that were. They said they were Gujars area? I thirk scmethirg will have to be from Jammu and Kashm'r. Though the done. I am not sayir«g that this is the cattle did not cause any damage or final answer. destruction to the grown up trees, natu- rally some harvesting is also taking place Dr. V. K. R. Varadaraja Rao : there and the cattle destroy whatever is You have Central Universities in the States. newly planted. The U.P. officials told me, You can have national forests. and from my Ministry I find that there is some truth in what they said, that Jammu Shri Annasaheb P. Shinde : There and Kashmir brought! pre sure on the fore , there are certain anomalies in the U.P. Government to allow the Gujaras as piesent situation and they have to be they are a very backward community. rectified. Hew it should be done is a matter When the U.P. Government prevented Which can be discussed. them, there was a protest from Jammu, Taere is another important aspect. and Kashmir, and they said that these peo- This country has to have an appropriate ple sh uld be looked upon with sympathy and should be allowed to graze in the grazing policy. Recently I Was in Srinagar, discussing with Sheikh Abdullah how to forest. What is the result ? The result protect the Jammu and Kashmir forests. is that ultimately some substantia? He brought to my notice an important damage to the forest area is taking place, point. Whether the figures he gave are because we are not following an appro- priate grazing policy. I think that correct ot not is a different thing, but the basic point remains. He says that Jammu and politicians in this country, whatever party 335 National Forest : ° AUGUST 20, *197651^ / policy (Real.) 236 fShri Annarh b p, Sircc] # 'v research activity. There are no two they may belong to, must arrive atA some opinions on that^As I a*id, the honey •concensus as to what should be the grazing kcust tree, in 1 acre, can give 26 tonnes of policy, becuase it is in the interests of foodgrains from pods. * It fs some thing the cattle themselves. Unless grass is fantastic. I think the humanity has got allowed to sprout, the total quantity of such a valuable asset at its disposal. fodder really gets reduced. But we have not fully exploited it. It ia the experience all over the world that some SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MOHA- of the species which are found in other PATRA (Balasr'e) : Cows and buffaloes parts of the world, under similar climatic .can live even without grass. conditions can be adapted. Like human SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE : beings, the trees also'have a lot of adapt- In many places I find that trees are planted ability. Many of the trees can be adapted without understanding which particular to our conditions. type of tree should be planted. I think, one should be very clear about it. DR. HENRY AUSTIN (Ernakulam) : In this regard, I am prepared to take the I read in a report that due to blame on myself. Our Forest Depart- forest fires, more often than not, artificially ment itself has not made frmal studies. created fires, much vegetation, including Recently, I raised the issue at Simla as to huge trees, is destroyed in our forests. whether they have any priority list of Has the Ministry thought about it and taken trees from the point of view of economic*, any steps in this regard ? which trees are suitable in particular agro- climatic conditions, wh'ch trees give SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE : more income, wh;ch trees h've more eco- This problem in there. There are some nomic value, more tTmber value and all nvschief-mongers and anti-social elements. that. I asked whether relative studies Apart from accidents and other things, have been made. Unfortunately,4 there forest fires do take place and there are are no such studies avalable. We even deliberate nrschiefs committed in need not wait for tho*e studies. From order to exploit the local situation. What comm'mense, we can take a decision. we have done is that we have alerted the State Governments and we have told the In Tamil Nadu, for instance— I am forest Depirtment that village communi- rare, Mr. Chandrappan must be knowing ties should be inv>lved in the programme it—there is the tamarind tree. A full- of preservation and controlling of forests. grown tamarind tree annually gives an Unless there is a greater public awareness income of about Rs. 200. Even a medium and the entire community as such stands -sized tree gives an income of about Rs. behind the programme of protecting and iod. Then, for instance, there is the honey preserving the forests, I do not think locust tree. It is a species known that this problem can be solved. It is throughout the world. It can grow in the the community involvement and the com- Himalayan region. I am told and I have munity awareness which can tackle this read the literature that the honey locust problem. tree, in 1 acre, can g ve 20 tonnes of feed grains from pods for cattle. That means we can have more cattle feeds. As MR. CHAIRMAN : Do you have any Dr. Rao said, we sh mid really direct figures as to how much forest wood goes our research effort more towards ’the de- in as fuel, how much goes in at timber velopment of forests. I agree with and how much goes in for industria I him. There should be more forest purposes ? iff National Forest SRAVANA 29, 1898 (SAKA) Policy (Resl.) 238- • SHRI, ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE 17*20 hrs. I can possibly find out the figures. At r r the moment, they are not with me. Rough 1 (SHRI,p. Parthasarathy in the Chairl estimates are possible and available. v ■ > For example, apple trees and other fruir The point that I was making was that trees which give f*uits quickly ard which forest programmes are being discusscd give income quickly. What has been the in the country and there is so much public result of that * The result of that has awareness and public interest about these been that nobody plants walnut tree? wh/ch programmes. The Forest Department, the give fruit after 15 or 20 years. Walrtut, State Goverments, the Agricultural which the country exports and which ge* Universities and the Research Institutes us valuable foreign exchange, is grown should really have a list of specics of trees only in Kashmir. What I want to bring to* which can be profitably planted in a parti- your notice and what I want to ask is this. cular area from the point of fuel value, There are large areas with the Goverrmenr from the point of view of timber value, from which are lying fallow. Why can the the point of view of industrial uses and all Government not take to Walnut plantation that. If this is done, I think, in the forest in those areas instead of asking the indivi- programmes, we can have some content duals to do it > Individuals will rot do it. and ihey will be purposeful ones. r ’ We should not blindly plant any tree. SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE ; I Ultimately, we have to take care of it by have understood your question. As far nursing it, by giving water to it and by as nursery programme s , concerned* we putting in some of our resources. I was do not Want the ir. dividual* to take it up; referring to the honey locust tree wh'ch, We Want the State Governments, agricul- in 1 acre, cangivef20 tonnes of foodgrains tural universities and other institutions from pods. It is recorded history that it who knew something about it, and the is not only useful for cattle but in times of Forest Department to prepare nurseries drought and famine, even the human frcm the point of view of the economic beings have tried to survive on pods of value ard takirg into account the agro- honey locust tree. The trees of economic ciimatic conditions in particular areas....» value have to be planed, I mean, trees of f h&r ' ’ t mber value, fuel value, fedder value and even food value. If this is done, I am AN HON. MEMBER : What about quite sure that our programme of affores- lumber contractors and forest contractors? tation will be much more meaningful and it will te a really very constructive one. SHRI ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE : I % have already replied to that. SHRI SYED AHMED AGA (Bai*- mulla) : You have mentioned that Shri D. K. Panda has Said that the tree planting should not be done blindly. contract system should be abolished. We Do the Foiest Department ha\e a list of have issued specific instructions to the State priorities as to which trees should be Governments that the contract system planted ? In the State of Jammu and and the middle-men should be totally Kashmir where you have paid a visit and abolished. Our policy is to have only talked to those people, >ou may have or e ‘contractor*, th at is the Forest Corpora- found that the people have taken to fast- tion, a public sector organization, which growing trees, the trc< s which give them will operate in the forests, with seme quick income. adjustments in the interest of tribals; 2 39 National Forest AUGUST 20, 1978 Policy (Rc»l) a|b '-'T (Shri Annasah'b P. Shinde] In addition to giving shelter from vain except that, we have not compromised and sun, giving fuel and timber and bring- on that. Unless the middle-men are ing timely rain, the forests have got very eliminated from forest operations* we will important role, namely to purify the pot succeed in limiting or reducing the atmosphere by and large and the obnoxious destructions which take place. gas by a process which is called photo- synthesis by which they absorb the carbon^ Another point which was raised by Mr. di-oxide and release oxygen which is so Naik was about the budget provision— vital for the life; and for the ecological whatever income is received by the State balance it is very necessary that we should Government is not put in. He is vet7 try to preserve what little has been left so right on that. We have repeatedly drawn far as forests are concerned. the attention of the State Governments to this. Forest is too valuable a source, forest is too important a sector of Forests are really the lungs of the nation our economy which cannot be neglected and man is a unique creature of God which like this, and, therefore, I have no other has been corroborated after scanning the opinion but to broadly agree with him. space and after going to the moon and after landing in the Mars now that there is With these observations, may I crpre«s probably no life or no species like man. the hope that Mr. P. K. Deo will not insist So, in this earth humanity has to be pre- on M i Resolution ? As far as sentiments served at any cost and for the preservation behind it are concerned, he has raised a of humanity, forest is very essential. As very important and valuable debate on this, I pointed out earlier, the rapid space at particularly in the present dimate when which the Thar desert has been proceed- -forests arc receiving more and more ing—experts say at the rate of about half attention from the public. I am thankful a mile every year—has to be stopped. to him for that on behalf of the Govern- ment and on behalf of myself. But, all the Dr. V.K.R.V. Rao has rightly pointed same, because Government is seized of the out regarding the span of life of various matter, I would request him to withdraw multi-purpose reservoirs that have been his Resolution. I am thankful to all the built at a colossal cost. Their life has hon. Members who had p micipated in the also to be preserved for which in the discussion and also inose who had not catchment areas we should see that there participated but who had shown very should be no further denudation of forests, keen interest. rather afforestation should be taken up in a very vigorous way. SHRI P. K. DBO : (Kalahandi) : I am extremely grateful to all those who have participated in t**e debate. I have In spite of our pious wish in I952 had unanimous support from all the that we should have a forest-covered area speakers, from the press and also from the of 33*3%# our target has reached only reading public—letters to the Editor 22*7% and that too, is a very big claim, have appeared in several papers There- according to me. My friend, Mr. fore, in a subject like this, which is of Shinde would agree with me that many concern to every person, no persuasion on of the so-called ‘reserve forests’ are mere my part would be necessary for the Namkevasu forest*, forests for namesake Government to accept my Resolution. and hardly there is any tree there. 1 But, as desired by my friend, Shri Anna- passed on some photographs to Mr. Shinde sahebP. Shinde, I Will have to give a second so far as the avenue trees in my State are ithought to it. concerned . Even the avenue trees whic 4Y National Forest SHAVANA 29, 1898 (SAkA) Facilities to Weaker Policy (Resl) Sections of Muslims (Resl.) ‘The Himalayas hata a message*to give have been planted about 100 or 150 M toman in an age when he is being years back have been mercilessly cut and menaced by the backfire of his latest nobody has been paying any attention to technological achievements. The preserve these avenue trees even though message is one of hope. It is still many of the VIPs pass by that road. possible for man to regain his original concord with Nature and this will bring him salvation from his present Man-made plight.* Our population has been growing at an annual rate of 2 *5% and taking this With these words, I think, my purpose factor into consideration, it is a good has been served, public attention has been thing that a new awareness has come drawn, Government has become aware especially, I congratulate Mr. Sanjay of the fact. So, I beg leave of the House Gandhi who has given a call for plantation to withdraw my Resolution. of trees and there has been a circular issued to all the State Governments and even to the district level and the Panchayat MR. CHAIRMAN : There is an level so far as social forestry is concerned. amendment by Mr. Daga. Although he I think some steps will be taken in this is not here, it has to be put to the vote regard and all co-operation should be taken of the House. We cannot dispose of the from the authorities concerned. original motion unless the amendment is disposed of. So, I will put Mr. Daga’s amendment to the vote of the House. I want just two assurances from the Minister. (1) He should be firm Amendment No. 1 teas put and regarding the preservation of the avenue negatived. trees and he has been very categorical that the cortract system should be stopped. MR. CHAIRMAN : Is it the pleasure of But I know for certain that for the sake of the House to allow Shri P. K. Deo to with- revenue these forest coupes are being draw his Resolution moved on the 14th auctioned every year and given to the May, 1976 ? highest bidder. HON. MEMBERS: Yes. The Resolution teas, by leave, withdrawn. Various contractors go and steal from the adjoining areas. That is how contractors are primarily responsible for destruction 17.34 hra. of our forests. Even though the Minister RESOLUTION RE. PROVISION OF said that there will not be a contract FACILITIES FOR WEAKER system, I doubt this very much. For the SECTIONS OF MUSLIMS sake oftheir revenue, State Governments willcontinue to indulge in such a practice SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN (TeUi- of leasing out forests on yearly basis chery) • Mr* Chairman, Sir, I am to various contractors. Now there is thankful for this opportunity to move my emergency and in view of this, I hope that Resolution. I beg to move the following very strict measures will be taken by the Resolution :— Government to implement their afforesta- tion programmes. Unless the forests “ This House resolves that in order to survive humanity cannot survive, j further strengthen national inte- conclude with a quotation from Mr. gration and promote secularism Arnold Toynbee, who said ; and ensure that socio-economic and 243 , Fac*M'es to Weaker ' AUGUST 20, 1976 Sections of Muslims (Resl) 244 [Shri C. K . Chandrappan] I am very confident that this House cultural rights of muslim minorities would extend its full support to the reso- •re adequately protected, Govern- lution because of another reason also that ment may take the following we are going to discuss very soon in thia measures : House the amendments to the Constitution whereby it would be inscribed in the Con* stitution and to make it clear once again fi) provision of credit to weaker that this country is a secular country. sections of muslims at par with The goal of this country will be secularism. other backward classes for pur- It has already been proclaimed by the poses of education and employ- Government, by the nation. But, we deci- ment | ded still that it should be inscribed in the Constitution itself that this country ia (ii) provision of house sites for poor secular. muslims dwelling in urban slums and rural areas ; It is in this context that I felt that it wa* necessary that this House should discusa (iii) fixing quota for recruitment of this matter of the weaker section of the muslims to jobs in Govern- Muslim minority in our country ard the ment, quasi-Govemment services House should come forward with concrete and public sector undertakings; suggestions and concrete proposals so that it can put forward before Goverr ment those suggestions for action. That ia (iv) official recognition to Urdu under the purpose of this Resohitior. article 347 of the Constitution in States where a substantial Urdu speaking population exists; When we say that our ccurtry adepts secularism ard we stand to protect the (▼) appointment of a Commissioner interests of the Muslim minority, there are for muslim minorities at the certain facts which are very vital to our Centre and cells in the States to country which should also be taken into supervise and ensure their welfare account. Our country is the third big- and protection of their rights/* gest nation in the world where large num- bers of Muslims are living, the first Sir, while movirg this Resolution, I am and second being Indonesia and Bang- very certain that all sides of the House, ladesh. Of course, India is not a Muslim every section of the House, |wiDSupport nation in that sense ; it is a country the idea of providing better facilities for with a big population of Muslims. To put it differently, I can say that we the muslim minority in our country. have got 67*2 million Muslims in our country which constitutes 11*2 per cent I move this Resolution by making it very of our population. That is the signi- clear that our approach to thejproblem of ficance. It is not a question of a sm all Muslim minority in this country is not from minority that we arc dealing with; it is any communal angle. We take it as a a question of a big minority and the national question; the problem of Muslim question of the poeple's wellbeir.g ard minority is to be considered a national for whose satisfaction lies the secular question that this nation has to tackle if it character of the State, the security of the has to achieve national unity and integration country and in which also lies the bringing and if it has to achieve secularism in a about of a bright future to our nation and meaningful manner. the people. That is the significance cf 345 F acilities to Weaker S R A V A N A 29,1898 (SAKAR) Sections of Muslims 246 (R esl.) y, giving a fair deal to the Muslim minority. If We Start on this premise, one can W.i ;n I say tMs,^v;n for a single moment, understand why the RSS is so mid and I do not doubt that GDv:rnm?nt has not so desperately fanatic about fighting bsen doing anything. Government is Muslims. But is it a fact ? It is one trying because protection of Muslim of the distortions of history. It is not minority interests is the deep conviction a fact. The Muslims have not come o f th? national movement in this country, to this country as in Vilers. Their history the ideal cherished by Mahatma Gandhi, does not begin w.th Mahmud of Gtiazni. Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and even to-day Their history began, according to the by our Prime Minister, Shrimati Indira well-known historian. Sirdar K. M. Gandhi, all the democratic parties in this Pannikar, who wrote the Histny of icauntry. All the forces in the country, Ker.)li, in this way. all of us, cherish that India should be a secular nation in which hundred per :ntjas;ic3shouldbs given to the Muslim “When Islam swept \ovet Arbia, m nority. Gjvirnm^nt is trying, but the its influence Was felt immediatel (fact remains that even today we have not over Kerala also. In fact, accord- sreac'ied that extent where we should ing to a fairly ancient tradition 3hjvereached. We could not do every thing the last Perumal himself became a possible for the M islim minority in this convert to Islam. That is, Islam '«co(intry. Thatii wiy specific measures began to spread in Malabar early ^ara sugg’sted in this Resolution. both by conversion and by, settlementof the Arab traders. I is clear from a Muslim inscription Biiore I come to the specific measures, Pantalayani Kollam in of the I would like to draw the attention of this North Arcot dated Hajra 166” . House to the fact how Pandit JaWaharlal Nehru looked at this problem, the problem They came as traders. They setded o f tension between Hindus and Muslims. He in Kerala. There are so many instances looked at it as a problem of tension bet- one can'cite to debunk this argument ween the exploiter and the exploited. of the RSS, There is a socio-economic background for the kind of communal situation, which none of us would like, which is being There is an article Written about the created in this country. There are people Moplas of Kerala. I am quoting from who are trying to exploit that situation that. There are people who are seriously thinking that it is not necessary to do “They came to the Malabar coast as ijustice to Muslims because they consider traders even before the emergence that Muslims do not belong to India. of the Moghuls______” There are two aspects, two sides, to the , picture. As traders, not as invaders. This is from “Mopla Muslims ot Kerala: A Take, for example, how GolWalkar, study in Islam trends” by Rolland E •one of the stalwarts of the RSS, looked Miller, an English Writer. So the -at this problem. He said : Muslims in this country came and settled “ They came here as invalers to destroy in Kerala at least seven centuries before us, to establish their own supre- the Moghuls came to India. Kerala is macy and to enslave the local people.” a State in this country known for communal harmony. You do not have much g " 247 Facilities to Weaker AUGUST 20^ 1976 Sections of Muslims (Resl.) * 248^ T ,. Tsar :> ■.*■ VI [Shri C.K. ^ rd u ip p in ] It is well' to remember problem in Kerala between the Muslims’*** * this fact For in this Wes the root ^ and Hindus. You may also understand * cause of tension between Hindu ^ what is the meaning of the word *Mopla,f and Muslims”. ^ ^ ‘Mopla* in Tamil means *bridge room*.4 DR. HENRY AUSTIN jErnakulam: The exploitation of the poor tenants by In Malayalam also it has more or lesse landlords who happened to be Hindus-— the same meaning. that is what Nehru says. My friend Shri Dharnidar Das had Written a book> * i o f in SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN : Yes, Economic Base Communalism, in Malayalam also we use that word to which he had quoted’ the concept o f ji Writes. mean ‘bridegroom.’ Historians say that Gandhi on this problem: He it derived from the fact that traders who “ On the eve of independence, when came there from the Arab world settled India became a ghastly scene of in in Kerala coast Mangalore. Ibn mass killings and communal Batuta a famous historian says that large frenzy, Mahatma Gandhi entered settlements of Muslimswerein Mangalore the Muslim areas of Noakali and and they married the people of Malabar; asked Prof. Nirmal Kumar Bose Without forcibly converting anybody they to submit to him an economic become part and parcel of the coastal survey of the area. The survey life in that part of the country and they revealed a population composition became part of India. This is the of 18 per cent Hindus and 82 per tradition of Muslims in India. When cent Muslims. But the 18 percent we speak of our culture, can we forget Hindus were in possession of 75 that Taimahalis part of Indian culture ? per cent property of the area and the 82 per cent of the Muslims If we take the view that Muslims are shared the 25 per cent of the pro- part and parcel of this country and there- perty. They were extremely fore they are part of our people, their poor and many of them were land- Wellbeing becomes the responsibility less masses and the Hindu owners of the entire nation. In an article entitled were absentee landlords.*' *Brief resume of the nationalist organisa- tion.’ Pandit JaWaharlal Nehru Wrote The problem of communal tension before Independence : comes from poverty ; it is used by the ex- ploiters to exploit the masses. That is “Muslims were generally d o o t . Most why Mahatma Gandhi came to the con- of the Weavers who had gone to clusion that the root cause of the conflict war on account of the British lay hidden in the conflict between the destruction of Indian industries exploiter and the expedited. were Muslims in Bengal which has the biggest Muslim popula- I have quoted extensively ; coming to the tion of any Indian province. present position, poverty is the problem They were poor tenants or small and exploi tati on i s the problem. Whenever land holders. Landlords were you talk of this, what happens to the usually Hindus, as were the biggest minority in our country ^ village banias who were money Knowingly or unknowingly they arc the lenders and owners of the village worst exploited section in our seciety > stores. Landlord and the bania in the field of education they are the most were this in a position to oppress backward ; in the field of employment, the tenant and exploit him and they they are the most discriminated and in the took full advantage of that field of culture I am sorry to say they are 3 4 9 Facilities to Weaker SRAVANA 29, 18$8 (SAKAR) Sections of Muslims 250 * ' (Real) * badly neglected; If things do not improve, not Muslim sweepers, Muslim cobblers, what happens ? They turn to organisations Muslim weavers, be treated (at par,? like Jamiat E Ulema who try to take When we sp ke of secularsim, if we cate- the Muslim masses out of the main stream 1 gorise certain sections as backward classes o f Indian life and put them on communal on the basis o£ certain standards, the same lines and try to create communal madness standards should apply to the same sec- and frenzy among them by telling them : tions which belong to another community. You are being exploited by Hindus ; you are to fight for your rights against the SHRI B.V. NAIK (KANARA) : Do the Hindus’'* ,This being the case, the you want to introduce chaturvama among Government will have to act with a sense Muslims ? of urgency. It will have to come forward in a big way to help them. The problems SHRI C.K. CHANDRAPPAN : We are not bothered about chaturvarm among I am posing in the resolution have been Muslims. We are bothered about our answered in the other House. The gov- ernment took the position that there are secularism. constitutional guarantees given to avoid MR. CHAIRMAN : Please address •discrimination. I fully appreciate the fact that articles 16(1) and (2) provide the>e the Chair. guarantees. But is that enough ? I think it is not. Even the framers of the Cons- SHRI C.K. CHANDRAPPAN : Noth- ing should stand in the way of our se- titution took the view that merely stating or re-stating the fact that there will be cularism. The weaker sectons like no d scrim nation on the basis of caste, weavers, rickshaw-pullers, biri workers, creed, community or religion or sex was etc. of the Muslim community should be given adequate financial assistance and not enough. That is why they added sub-clause (4) t • article 16 which reads their interests should be adequately pro- thus : tected. They should not feel by any chance that they are being neglected, “ Nothing in this article shall prevent because they do not belong to Hinduism. the State from making any provi- This is not a Hindu State. That is why sion for reservation of appoint- we say that the weaker sections among ments or posts in favour of any the Muslims should be treated at par with backward class of citizens which, the backward community. in the opinion of the State, is not adequately represented in the The second demand is about distribu- services under the State.” tion of housing site. When we distribute housing sites for poorer people in the coun- So, if in the opinion of the State any tryside, we reserve a certain portion for the sea ion of the population is not adequate- harijans. But there is not reservation ly represented, the State can declare t^at for the Muslim community there. The section as backward. That is our demand. poorer Muslims, who really belong to the I am not making the unreasonable demand counterpart of harijan or backward comm- that the entire Muslim community should unity. should get reservation in the matter be declared backward. I only demand of housing sites. that if certain sections have been declare backward communities in any State, their Even in the cites, for reasons well- counterparts amongst the Muslims should known to everybody, the poorer Muslims also get that benefit. For example, live together. Th y clust r together a~d a Hindu sweeper, chamar or cobbler or a live together. In those days when comm- weaver is a backward class. Why unal riots were so frequent in our country, ft1 v \ * ■ '*''** ..*>.. - ’■>'?■ ,$l ^ a j lFaeiHHt t to Weaker AUGUST 20, 1976 Sections of Muslim^ (Rtf 1.) the Muilims wanted to live to gether to that Muslim Education Society. He is not * there will be some protection. As a * result Mushm-Jcaguer or * a communal man. of that, today, there are Muslim shuns v In fact, he ia sympathetic to the* Con* in the cities, where the Muslims are in « gress. When he went to Calicut to address majority. When1’you dear those slums, 4 the Muslim Education Society meet x.g> there should be special consideraton hr made certain observations. According, given^J to the press : -/k - ,-r • rs*-- In this context, I want to refer to the “ He pointed out that the Muslim' Turkman Gate area, which} was cleared community, whicv formed i r z recently. I would like the Minister to per cent of the population’of this, give an assurance that without delay you country; its representation in will provide housing facilities for the Government services was as low mulims who lost their housing and that as 5*2 per cent in IAS, 4*3 per they will be resettled. Since this demand cent in IFS and 3*2 per cent for resettlement is in accordance with in IPS”, the Master Plan of Delhi, this area should not be utilised for any purpose other than resettling those Muslims. I hope the Minister will give an assurance 18 00 hrs. on those lines. What a plight! SHRI MD. JAMILURRAHMAN (KISHANGANJ) : Since there are a large MR. CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. number of members who want to speak on this, the time allotted to this Re- SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: I solution should be increased. think I will take ten minutes more. It is an important subject. MR. CHAIRMAN : In any case., it will not be over today. We will see when it is MR. CHAIRMAN: Then he may con- taken up next. It will depend upon the tinue his speech on the next day. mood of the House. 18.61 hrs. SHRI C.K. CHANDRAPPAN : Coming to employment, I want to (quote The Lok Sabha then adjourned ull from a speech made by Shri P.D. 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