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LOK SABHA DEBATES

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LOK 8 ABHA SECRBTARIAT NEW DELHI

fr ic tt’ib . 4.00 CONTENTS Sixth Series, Volume XlX, Sixth Session 1978 1900 (Saka)

No. I, Monday November, 20, i^jSIKartika 29, 7900 (Saka) C o l u m n s

Alphabetical List of Mcmbi i s (v)-(xiiil

Oificers ol the H oiisc (xiv) List 1)1 Members of the C'-abinet and Ministers of State (xv)-(xvii)

Member Swurn I

Obituary References 1-5 Oral Answers to Qucslit>ns ;

♦Starred Questions Nos. i lo 7 • 5-36 Written Answers to Questions :

Starred Questions Nos. 8 to 20 36-50 Uiistarred Questions Nos. i to 61, 63 to 195 and 197 to 200 50-301

Papers laid on the Tabic . 301-308 Cjnstitutii)n (I'orty-filth Amtndmcnt) Bill— Returned by Rajva Sabha with amendments . 308

Assent to Bills .... . 308

Re. Discussion on the Communal situation in the country . 309- ID, 3 II-I5 Re. President’s order in relation to the Union Territory ol ^ Pondicherry ...... • 3IO-JI Gilling .'\ttention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance — Communal riots in the country . 315-28

Shri M. V. Chandrashekhara Murthy . 3i 5>3i 9-2i

Shri Dhanik Lai Mandal • 315-18 Shri Morarji Desai .321,326,328

Shri Vijay Kumar Malhotra . 323-26 Shri Arjun Singh Bhador'a . 326-27 ♦The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the ques­ tion was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (ii)

Resignation by Member-- CoLtJMKS (Shri S. D. Somasundaran) 328

Announcement Re. Procedure for dealing with Calling Attention N o t i c e s ...... 325-22 Statement Re. lA l' Plane crash at Lch on 19-11-1978 . 329 Shri Jagjivan Ram 330-31

Khadi and Village Industries Commission (Amti.onitni; bill—

Extention ot Time tor presentation ol Report of Joint Committee . 332

Matters under Rule 377—

(i) Reported grant of Paper Conversion Licence to Schgal Papers Ltd.—

Shri Dhirendranath Basu ...... 332-34

(ii) Functioning of the Film Finance Corporation, the Indian Motion Pictures Export Corporation and the Hindustan Photo Films— Dr. Vasant Kumar Pandit . . . 334 (iii) Strike by the Pharmacists—

Shri Janeshwar Mishra . . 334"35 (iv) Reported resentment among the workers and employees over the Industrial Relations Bill—

Shri Samar M u k h e rje e ...... 335"3<5

Bolani Ores Limited (Acquisition of Shares) and Misccllantous Pro­ visions Bill ...... 336-54

Motion to consider—

Shri Biju Patnaik . . 336-38, 348-52

Shri Dinen Bhattacharya 339-41

Shri P. Rajagopal Naidu 341

Shri K. A. Rajan 341-43

Shri Saugata Roy 343"45

Shri A. Asckaraj . . . . 345"46 Shri Dhirendranath Basu . • • • 347"48 (iii)

C o l u m n s Clauses 2 to 38 and i -353 Motion to pass, as amended . 354

Shri Biju Patnaik . 354

Prize Chits and Money Circulation Sch<.mts (Pinning) Bill . . 355— 82 Motion to consider— Shri H. M. Patel 355—60,379—81 Shri Laxmi Narain Nayak . 360—62

Dr. Ramji Singh 362—65 Shri A. Bala Pajanor . • . 365—67 Chowdhry Balbir Singh . .... 367—70 Prof. P. G. Mavalankar . . . 370—75

Shri R. L. P. Vcrma . 375—78 Shri Ram Murti . 378—79

Clauses 2 to 14 and i . 381—82 Motion to pass, as amended . 382 Shri H. M. Patel 382

Brhannia Engineering Company Limited (Mokanieh Unit) and the Arthur Butler and Company (Muzaflarpoie) Limited (Acauisi- tion and Transfer of Undertakings) B ill...... 383—407

Motion to consider—

Shrimati Abha Maiti . . . 383—85 Shri Dinen Bhattacharya . . . . 386—88

Shri Shrikrishna Singh • . • • 388—89 Shri Ramdas Singh • 389—92 Shri R. L. P. Verma 392—95

Dr. Ramji Singh . 395—98

Shri K. A. Rajan . 399—401 Chowdhry Balbir Singh . 401—403

Shri Dhirendranath Basu . 403—405

Shri Vinodbhai B. Sheth • 405—406 (iv)

C o l u m n s Water (Prevention and Control of Pollution) Amendment Bill 407—28

Motion to consider—

Shri Sikandar Bakht 4 0 '—10

Shri P. Rajagopal Naidu 4 'o —13

Dr. Ramji Singh 4:3—17 Dr. Saradish Roy .117— 19

Chowdhr>’ Balbir Singh 4 ‘ <.— 23 Shri M. Ram Gopal Reddy . 2:,—26

Shri Shrikrishna Singh . 426—28 ALPHABETICAL LIST OF MEMBERS

SIXTH LOK SABHA Badri Narayan, Shri A. R. (Shimoga) Bagri, Shri Mani Ram (Mathura). Bagun Sumbrui, Shri (Singhbhum) Bahuguna, Shri H. N. (Lucknow) Abdul Lateef Shri (Nalgonda) Bahuguna, Shrimati Kamala (Phulpur) Agrawal, Shri Satish (Jaipur) Bairagi, Shri Jena (Bhadrak) Ahmed, Shri Halimuddin (Kishan- Bal, Shri Pradyumna (Jagatsinghpur). fianj) Balak Ram, Shri (Simla) Ahmed Hussin^ Shri (Dhubri) Balakrishniah, Shri T. (Tirupathi) Ahsan Jafri, Shri (Ahmednoad) Balbir Singh, Chowdhry (Hoshiarpur) Baldev Prakash, Dr. (Amritsar) Ahuja, Shri Subhash (Betul) Banatwalla, Shri G. M. (Ponnani) Akbar Jahan Begum, Shrimati (Sri­ nagar) Barakataki, Shrimati Renuka Devi (Gauhati) Alagesan, Shri O. V. (Arkonam) Barman, Shri Palas (Balurghat) Alha.i, Shri M. A. Hannan vBasiihul) Barnala, Shri Surjit Singh (Sangrur) Alluri, Shri Subhash Chandra Bose (Narasapur) Barrow, Shri A. E. T. (Nominated— Anglo-Indians) Amat, Shri D. (Sundargarh) Barua, Shri Bedabrata (Kaliabor) Amin. Prof. R, K. (Surendran&gar; Varve, Shri J. C. (Ramtek) Ananthan, Shri Kumari (Nagercoil) Basappa, Shri Kondajji (Devangere) Anbalagan, Shri P. (Ramanathapu- ram) Basu, Shri Chitta (Barasat) Ankineedu, Shri Maganti (Machilipcit- Basu, Shri Dhirendranath (Katwa) nam). Bateshwar Hemram, Shri iDum'xa) Ankineedu Prasada Rao, Shri P. Berwa, Shri Ram Kanwar (Tonk) (Bapatla) Bhadoria, Shri Arjun Singh (Etawah) Ansari, Shri Faquir All (Mirzapur) Bhagat Ram, Shri (Phillaur) Appalanaidu, Shri S. R. A. S. (Anaka Bhakta, Shri Manoranjan (Andaman palli) and Nicobar Islands) Argal, Shri Chhabiram (Morena) Bhanwar, Shri Bhagirath (Jhaoua) Arif Beg, Shri (Bhopal) Bharat Bhushan, Shri (Nainital) Arunachalam, Shri M. (Tenkasi) Bhattacharya, Shri Dinen (Seram- Arunachalam, Shri V. (Tirunelveli) pore) Asaithambi, Shri A. V. P. (Maras Bhattacharyya, Shri Shyamaprasanna North) (Uluberia) Asokaraj, Shri A. (Perambalur) Bheeshma Dev, Shri ]\I, (Nagarkur- Austin, Dr. Henry (Ernakulam) nool) Avari, Shri Gev M. (Nagpur) Bhuvarahan, Shri G. (Cuddalorc)

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Birendra Prasad Shri (Nalanda) Chikkalingiah, Shri K. (Mandya) Boddepalli, Shri Rajagopala Rao (Sri- Choudhari, Shri K. B. (Bijapur^ Kakulam) C!houdhury, Shrimati Rashida Haque Bonde, Shri Nanasahib (Amravati) (Silchar) Borole, Shri Yashwanl (Jalgaon) Chowhan, Shri Bharat Singh (Dhar) Borooah, Shri D. K. (Nowgong) Chunder, Dr. Pratap Chandra (Cal­ Bosu, Shri Jyotirmoy (Diamond Har­ cutta North-East) bour) Brahm Perkash, Chaudhury (Outer Delhi) D Brij Raj Singh. Shri (Aonla) Burande, Shri Gangadhar Aopa (B’har) Dabhi. Shri Ajitsinh (Anand) Burman. Shri Kirit Bikram Dob (Tri­ Damani, Shri S. R. (Sholapur) pura East) Damor, Shri Somjibhai. (Doh.id) C Dandavate, Prof. Madhu (R^japur) Danwe, Shri Pundalik Hari (Jalna) Chakravarty. Prof. Dilip (Calcutta South) Das. Shri R. P. (Krishnagar) Chand Ram. Shri (Sirsa) Das, Shri S S. (Sitam arhi) Chandan Singh, Shri (Kairana) Dasappa, Shri Tulsidas (Mysore) Chandra Pal Singh, Shri (Amroha) Dasgupta, Shri K. N. (Jalpaigurij Chandra Shekhar. Shri (Baba) Dave, Shri Anant (Kutch) Chandra Shekhar Singh, Shri (Vara­ Dawn. Shri Raj Krishna (Burdwan) nasi) Deo, Shri P. K. (Kalahandi) Chandrappan. Shri C. K. (Cannanore) Deo, Shri V. Kishore Cliandra S. (Par- Chandravati, Shrimati (Bhiwani) vathipuram) Charan Narzary, Shri (Kokrajhar) Desai, Shri D. D. (Kaira) Charan Singh, Shri (Baghpat) Dt'sai, Shri Dajiba (KolhapUiT) Chatterjee, Shri Somnath (Jadavpur) Desai, Shri Hitendra (Godhra) C!!haturbhuj, Shri (Jhalawar) Desai, Shri Morarji (Surat) Ckaturvedi, Shri Shambhu Nath Deshmukh, Shri Nanaji (Balrampur) (Agra) Doshmukh, Shri Ram Prasad (Hath- Chaudhary, Shri Moti Bhai R. (Banas- ras) kantha) Deshmukh, Shri Sheshrao (Parbhani) Chaudhry, Shri Ishwar (Gaya) Devarajan, Shri B. (Rasipuram) Chaudhuri, Shri Tridib (Berhampore) Dhandayuthapani, Shri V. (Vellore) Chaudhury, Shri Rudra Sen (Kaiser- Dhara, Shri Sushil Kumar (TamlulO ganj) Dharia, Shri Mohan (Poona) Chauhan. Shri Bega Ram (Ganga- nagar) Dhillon, Shri Iqbal Singh (Jullundur) Chauhan, Shri Nawab Singh (Aligarh) Dhondge, Shri Keshavrao (Nanded) Chavan, Shrimati P. (Karad) Dhurve, Shri Shyamlal (Mandla) Chavan, Shri Yeshwantrao (Satara) Digal, Shri Sribatcha (Phulbani) Chavda, Shri K. S. (Patan) Digvijoy Narain Singh, Shri (Vaishali) Chettri, Shri K. B. (Darjeeling) Doley, Shri L. K. (Lakhimpur) Chhetri, Shri Chhatra Bahadur (Sik­ Durga Chand, Shri (Kangra) kim) Dutt, Shri Asoke Krishna (Dum Dum) (vii)

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Elanchezhian, Shri V. S. (Pudukkot- Haider, Shri Krishna Chandra (Durga- tai) pur) Engli, Shri Biren (Autonomous Dis­ Hande, Shri V. G. (Nasik) trict) Haren Bhumij, Shri (Dibrugarh) Harikesh Bahadur, Shri (Gorakhpur) Hazari, Shri Ram Sewak (Rosera) Faleiro, Shri Eduardo (Mormugao) Heera Bhai, Shri (Banswara) Fazlur Rahman, Shri (Bettiah) Hegde, Shri K. S. (Bangalore South) Falerio, Shri George (Muzaffarpur) Hukam Ram, Shri (Jalore)

Gaekwad, Shri F. P. (Baroda) Inder Singh, Shri (Hissar) Gamit, Shri Chhitubhai (Mandvi) Gandhi, Shrimati Indira Nehru (Chik- magalur) Ganga Bhakt Singh, Shri (Shahabad) Jailer Shariel, Shri C. K. (Bangalore Ganga Singh^ Shri (Maiuli) North) Galtani, Shri R. D. (Jodhpur) Jagannathan, Shri S. (Sriperumbudur) Gawai, Shri D. G. (Buidhana) Jasjivan Ham, Shri (Sasaram) George, Shri A. C. (Mukandapurair.) Jain, Shri Kacharulal Hemraj (Bala- Ghosal, Shri Sudhir (Midnapore) ghat) Girjanandan Singh, Shri (Shcoh^r) Jain, Shri Kalyan (Indore) Godara, Ch. Hari Ram Makkasar Jain, Shri Nirmal Chandra (Seoni) (Bikaner) Jaiswal, Shri Anant Ram (Faizabad) Gode, Shri Santoshrao (Wadha) Jasrotia, Shri Baldev Singh (Jammu) Gogoi, Shri Taran (Jerhat) Jawade, Shri Shridharrao Ndthobaji Gomango, Shri Giridhar (Koraput) (Yeotmal) Jethamalani, Shri Ram (Bombay Gopal, Shri K. (Karur) North-West) Gore, Shrimati Mrinal (Bombay Jeyalakshmi, Shrimati V. (Sivakasi) North) Joarder, Shri Dinesh (Malda) Goswami, Shrimati Bibha Ghosh (Na- Joshi, Dr. Murli Manohar (Alniora) badwip) Gotkhinde, Shri Annasaheb (Sangli) Gounder, Shri Venugopal (Wandi- wash) Gowda, Shri S. Nanjesha (Ilassin) Kachvvai, Shri Ilukam Chand (Ujjain) Goyal, Shri Krishna Kumar ^Kota) Kadam, Shri B. P. (Kanara) Guha, Shri Samar (Contai) Kadannappalli, Shri Ramachandran (Kasargod) Gulshan, Shri Dhanna Singh (Bha- tinda) Kaiho, Shri (Outer Manipur) Gupta, Shri Kanwar Lai (Delhi Kailash Prakash, Shri (Meerut) Sadar) Kakade, Shri Sambhajirao (Baramati) Gupta, Shri Shyam Sunder (Barh) Kaldale, Dr. Bapu (Aurangabad) (viii)

kalyanasundaram^ Shri M. (Tinichira- Kureel, Shri R. L. (Mohanlalganj) Palli) Kushwaha, Shri Ram Naresh (Salem- Kamakshaiah, Shri D. (Nellore) pur) Kamath. Shri Hari Vishnu (Hoshan- gabad) Kamble, Shri B. C. (Bombay South- Central) Lahanu Shidavakom, Shri (Dahanu) Kannan, Shri P. (Salem) Lakkapa, Shri K. (Tumkur) Kapoor Shri L. L. (Purnea) Lakshminarayanan, Shri M. R. Kar, Shri Sarat (Cuttack) (Tindivanam) Karan Singh, Dr. (Udhampur) Lai, Shri S. S. (Bayana) Kasar, Shri Amrut (Panaji) Lalji Bhai, Shri (Salumber) Kaushik, Shri Purushottam (Raipur) Lalu Prasad, Shri (Chapra) Kesharwani^ Shri N. P. (Bilaspur) Laskar Shri Nihar (Karimganj) Khalsa, Shri Basant Singh (Ropar) Limaye, Shri Madhu (Banka) Khan, Shri Ghulam Mohammad Lyngdoh, Shri Hopingstone (Shillong) (Moradabad) Khan, Shri Ismail Hossain (Barpeta) M Khan, Shri Kunwar Mahmud Ali (Ha- Pur) Khan, Shri Mahmood Hasan (Buland- Machhand, Shri Raghubir Singh shahr) (Bhind) Khan, Shri Mohd. Shamsul Ha.ssan Magar, Shri Annasaheb (Khed) (Pilibhit) Mahala, Shii K. L. (Jhunjhunu) Khirme, Shri Rinching Khandu Mahale, Shri Shankar (Male^aon, (Arunachal West) Mahata, Shri C. R. (Purulia) Kidwai, Shrimati Mohsina (Azam- Mahi Lai, Shri (Bijnor) garh) Mahishi, Dr. Sarojini (Dharwar Kishore Lai, Shri (East Delhi) North) Kisku, Shri Jadunath (Jhargram) Maiti, Shrimati Abha (Panskuia) Kodiyan, Shri P. K. (Adoor) Malhotra, Shri Vijay Kumar (Soulh Kolanthaivelu, Shri R. (Tiruchen- Delhi) gode) Malik, Shri Mukhtiar Singh (S'incpat) Kolur, Shri Rajshekhar (Raichur) Mallanna. Shri K. (Chitra^lurga) Kosalram, Shri K. T. (Triuchendur) Mallick, Shri Rama Chandra (Jaipur) Kotrashetti, Shri A. K. (Belgaum) Malikarjun, Shri (Medak) Krishna Kant, Shri (Chandigarh) Manclal, Shri B. P. (Madhenpura) Krishnan, Shri G. Y. (Kolar) Mandal, Shri Dhanik Lai (Jhanjhar- Krishnan, Shrimati Parva^hi (Coim­ pur) batore) Mandal, Shri Mukunda (Mathurapur) Krishnappa, Shri M. V. (Chilkballa- Mane, Shri Rajaram Shankarrao pur) (Ichalkaranji) Kundu, Shri Samarendra (Balasore) Mangal Deo, Shri (Akbarpur) Kunhambu, Shri K. (Ottapalam) Mankar, Shri Laxman Rao (Bhan- Kureel, Shri Jwala Prasad (Ghatam- dara) pur) Manohar Lai, Shri (Kanpur) (ix)

Math«w, 6hri George (Muvattiipuzha) Naik, Shri S. H. (Nandurbar) Mathur, Shri Jagdish Prasad (Sikar) Naik, Shri V. P. (Washim) Mavalankar, Prof. P. G. (Gandhi­ Nair, Shri B. KL (Mavelikara) nagar) Nair, Shri M, N. Gkmndan (Trivan­ Mayathevar, Shri K. (Dindigul) drum ) Meduri, Shri Nageshwara Rao (Tenali) Nair, Shri N. Sreekantan (Quilon) Meerza, Shri Syed Kazim Ali (Murshi- Narayana, Shri K. S. (Hyderabad) dabad) Narendra Singh, Shri (Damoh) Mehta, Shri Prasannbhai (Bhavnagar) Nathu Singh, Shri (Dausa) Mhalgi, Shri R. K. (Thana) Nathuni Ram, Shri (Nawada) Mirdha, Shri Nathu Ram (Nagpur) Nathwaini, Shri Narendra P. (Juna- Miri, Shri Govind Ram (Sarangarh) gadh) Mishra, Shri G. S. (Chhindwara) Nayak, Shri Laxmi Narain (Khaju- Mishra, Shri Janeshwar (Allahabad) raho) Mishra, Shri Shyamnandan (Begu- Nayar, Dr. Sushila (Jhansi) sarai) Negi, Shri T S. (Tehri-Garhwal) Modak, Shri Bijoy (Hooghly) Mohan Bhaiya, Shri (Durg) Mohanarangam, Shri Ragavalu (Chen- galpattu) Onkar Singh, Shri (Budaun) Mohd. Hayat Ali, Shri (Raiganj) Oraon, Shri Lalu (Lohardaga) Mohmder Singh, Shri (Kamal) Mohsin, Shri F. H. (Dharwar South) Mondal, Dr. Bijoy (Bankura) Mrityunjay Prasad, Shri (Siwan) Pai, Shri T. A. (Udipi) Mukherjee, Shri Samar (Howrah) Pajanor, Shri A. Bala (Pondicherry) Multan Singh, Chaudhary (Jalesar) Pandey, Shri Ambika Prasad (Banda) Munda, Shri Govinda (Keonjhar) Pandeya, Dr, Laxminarayan (Mand- Munda, Shri Karia (Khunti) saur) Murahari, Shri Godey (Vijayawada) Pandit, Dr. Vasant Kumar (Rajgarh) Munnu, Father Anthony (Rajmahal) Paraste, Shri Dalpat Singh (Shahdol) Murthy, Shri Kusuma Krishna (Ama- Parmai Lai, Shri (jHardoi) lapuram ) Parmar, Shri Natwarlal B. (Dhandhu- Murthy, Shri M. V. Chandrashekhara ka) (Kanakapura) Parthasarathy, Shri P. (Rajampet) Murugaiyiui, Shri S. G. (Nagapatti- Parulekar, Shri Bapusaheb (Ratnagiri) nam) Parvati Devi, Shrimati (Ladakh) Murugesaa, Shri A. (Chidambaram) Paswan, Shri Ram Vilas (Hajipur) Patel, Shri Ahmed M. (Broach) N Patel, Shri Dharmasinhbhai (Porban- Nahar, Shri Bijoy Singh (Calcutta dar) North-West) Patel, Shri Dwarikadas (Amreli) Nahata, Shri Amrit (Pali) Patel, Shri H. M. (Sabarkantha) Naidu, Shri P. Rajagopal (Chittoor) Patel, Km. Maniben Vallabhbhai 2962 LS —2 (Mehsana) (x )

Patel, Shri Meetha Lai (Sawai Ma- Rai, Shri Narmada Prasad (Sagar) dhopur) Rai, Shri Shiv Ram (Ghosi) Patel, Shri Nanubhai N. (Bulsar) Raj Keshar Singh, Shri (Machhli- Patel, Shri R. R. (Dadra and Nagar shahr) Haveli) Raj Narain, Shri (Rae Bareli) Patidwar, Shri Rameshwar (Khar- Rajan. Shri K. A. (Trichur) gone) Rajda, Shri Ratansinh (Bombay Patil, Shri Balasaheb Vikhe (Koper- South) gaon) Raju, Shri K. A. (Pollachi) Patil, Shri Chandrakant (Hingoli) Raju, Shri P. V. G. (Bobbili) Patil, Shri D.B. (Kolaba) Rakesh, Shri R. N. (Chail) Patil, Shri S. B. (Bagalkot) Ram, Shri R, D. (Palamau) Patil, Shri S. D. (Erandol) Ram Awadhesh Singh, Shri (Vikram- Patil, Shri IT. S. (Latur) ganj) Patil, Shri Vijaykumar N. (Dhulia) Ram Charan, Shri (Jalaun) Patnaik, Shri Biju (Kendrapara) Ram Deo Singh, Shri (Maharajganj) Patnaik, Shri Sivaji (Bhubaneswar) Ram Dhan, Shri (Lalganj) Patwary, Shri H. ^ (Mangaldoi) Ram Gopal Singh, Chaudhury (Bil- Periasamy, Dr. P. V. (Krishnagiri/ haur) Pertin, Shri Bakin (Arunachal East) Ram Kinkar, Shri (Bara Banki) Phirangi Prasad, Shri (Bansgaon) Ram Kishan, Shri (Bharatpur) Pipil, Shri Mohan Lai (Khurja) Ram Murti, Shri (Bareilly) Poojary, Shri Janardhana (Manga­ Ram Sagar, Shri (Saidpur) lore) Ramachandran, Shri P. (Madras Cent­ Pradhan, Shri Amar Roy (Cooch- ral) Behar) Pradhan, Shri Gananath (SambalpuD Ramalingam, Shri N. Kudanthai (M ayuram) Pradhan, Shri Pabitra Mohan (Deo- Ramalingam, Shri P. S. (Nilgiris) garh) Pradhan, Shri K. (Nowrangpur) Ramamurthy, Shri K. (Dharmapuri) Ramapati Singh, Shri (Motihari) Pullaiah Shri Darur (Anantapur) Ramaswamy, Shri K. S. (Gobichetti- palayam) Q Ramaswamy, Shri S. (Periakulam) Qureshi, Shri Mohd. Shafi (Anantnag) Ramdas Singh, Shri (Giridih) Ramji Singh, Dr. (Bhagalpur) Ramjiwan Singh, Shri (Balia) Ramowalia, Shri Balwant Sin^ (Fa- ridkot) Rachiah, Shri B. (Chamarajangar) Rangnekar, Shrimati Ahilya P. Raghavendra Singh, Shri (Unnao) (Bombay North-Central) Raghavji, Shri (Vidisha) Ranjit Singh, Shri (Hamirpur) Raghbir Singh, Shri (Kurukshetra) Rao, Shrimati B. Radhabai Ananda Raghu Ramaiah, Shri K. (Guntur) (Bhadrachalam) Rahi, Shri Ram Lai (Misrikh) Rao, Shri G. Mallikarjuna (Warm- Rai, Shri Gauri Shankar (Ghazipur) gal) (xi)

Rao, Shri J. Rameshwara (Mahboob- Sai, Shri Narhari Prasad Sukhdeo nagar) (Raigarh) Rao, Shri Jagannath (Berhampur) Saini, Shri Manohar Lai (Mahendra- Rao, Shri Jalagam Kondala (Kham- garh) mam) Sait, Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman (Man- Rao, Shri M. S. Sanjeevi (Kakinada) jeri) Rao, Shri M. Satyanarayan (Karim- Saksena, Prof. Shibban Lai (Maha- nagar) rajganj) Rao, Shri P. V. Narasimha (Hanam- Samantasinhera, Shri Padmacharan konda) (Puri) Rao, Shri Patlabhi Rama (Rajah- Sangma, Shri P. A. (Tura) mundry) Sanyal, Shri Sasankasekhar (Jangi- Rao, Shri Raje Vishveshvar ^Chandra­ pur) pur) Saran, Shri Daulat Ram (Churu) Rasheed Masood, Shri, (Sharanpur) Sarangi, Shri R. P. (Jamshedpur) Rath, Shri Ramachandra (Asha) Sarda, Shri S. K. (Ajmer) Rathawa, Shri Amarsinh V. (Chhola Sardar, Shri Mahendra Narayan Udaipur) (Araria) Rathor, Dr. Bhagwan Dass (Hardwar) Sarkar, Shri S. K. (Joynagar) Ravi, Shri Vayalar (Chirayinkil) Sarsonia, Shri Shiv Narain (Karol Ravindra Pratap Singh, Shri (Aniethi) Bagh) Reddi, Shri G. S. (Miryalguda) Satapathy, Shri Devendra (Dhen- Rcddy^ Shri G. Narsimha (Adilabad) kanal) Reddy, Shri K. Brahmananda (Nara- Sathe, Shri Vasant (Akola) saraopet) Satya Deo Singh, Shri (Gonda) Reddy, Shri K. Obul (Cuddapah) Satyanarayana, Shri Dronam Raju Reddy Shri K. Vijaya Bhaskara (Kur- (Visakhapatnam) nool) Sayian Wala, Shri Mohinder Singh Reddy, Shri M. Ram Gopai (Nizama- (Ferozepur) bad) Sayeed, Shri P. M. (Lakshadweep) Reddy, Shri P. Bayappa (Hindupur) Scindia, Shri Madhavrao (Guna) Reddy, Shri S. R. (Gulbarga) Sen, Shri Prafulla Chandra (Aram- Rodrigues, Shri Rudolph (Nominated bagh) -—Anglo-Indians) Rothuama, Dr. R. (Mizoram) Sen, Shri Robin (Asansol) Roy, Shri A. K. (Dhanbad) Seyid Muhammad, Dr. V. A. (Calicut) Roy, Dr. Saradish (Bolpur) Shah, Shri D. P. (Bastar) Roy, Shri Saugata (Barrackpore) Shah, Shri Surath Bahadur (Kheri) Shaiza, Shrimati Rano M. (Nagaland)

S Shaky a, Shri Day a Ram (Farrukha- bad)

Saeed Murtaza, Shri (Muzaffarnagar) Shakya, Dr. M ahadeepak Singh (EJtah) Saha, Shri A. K. (Vishnupur) Shankar Dev, Shri (Bidar) Saha, Shri Gadadhar (Birbhum) Shankaranand, Shri B. (Chikkodi) Sahoo,

Sharma, Shri Rajendra Kumar (Ram- Swaminathan, Shri R. V, (Madurai) PUT) Swamy, Shri Sidrameshwara (Kop- Sharma, Shri Yagya Datt ^.Gurdaspur) pal) Shastri, Shri Bhanu Kumar (Udaipur) Swamy. Dr. Subramaniam (Bombaj^ Shastri, Shri Ram Dhari (Padrauna) North-East) Shastri, Shri Y. P. (Rewa) Swatantra, Shri Jagannath Prasad (Bagaha) Shejwalkar, Shri N. K. (Gwalior> Sheo Narain, Shri (Basti) Sher Singh, Prof. (Rohtak) Sheth^ Shri Vinodbhai B. (Jamragar) Talwandi, Shri Jagdev Singh (Ludhia­ Shinde, Shri Annasaheb P. (Ahmedna- na) gar) Tan Singh, Shri (Barmer) Shiv Sampati Ram. Shri ^Huberts Tej Pratap Singh, Shri (Hamirpur) ganj) Thakur, Shri Aghan Singh (Kanker) Shrangare, Shri T. S. (Osmanabad> Thakur, Shri Krishnarao (Chimur) Shrikrishna Singh, Shri (Monghyr) Thiagarajan, Shri P. (Sivaganga) Shukla, Shri Chimanbhai H. (Rajkot) Thomas, Shri Skariah (Kottayam) Shukla, Shri Madan Lai (Janjgir) Thorat, Shri Bhausaheb (Pandharpur) Sikandar Bakht, Shri (Chandni Chowk) Tirkey, Shri Pius (Alipurduar) Singh, Dr. B. N. (Hazaribagh) Tiwari, Shri Brij Bhushan (Khalila- bad) Singha, Shri Sachindralal (Tripura West) Tiwary, Shri D. N. (Gopalganj) Sinha, Shri C. M. (Mayurbhanj) Tiwary, Shri Madan (Rajnandgaon) Sinha, Shri H. L. P. (Jehanbad) Tiwary, Shri Ramanand (Buxar) Sinha, Shri M. P. (Patna) Tohra, Shri G. S. (Patiala) Sinha, Shri Pumanarayan (Tezpur) Tombi Singh, Shri N. (Inner Manipui) Sinha, Shri Satyendra Narayan Tripathi, Shri Madhav Prasad (Do- (Aurangabad) m ariaganj) Tripathi, Shri Ram Prakash (Kan- Somani, Shri Roop Lai (Bhilwara) nauj) Somani, Shri S, S. (Chittorgarh) Tulsiram, Shri V. (Peddapalll) Stephen, Shri C. M. (Idukki) Tur, Shri Mohan Singh (Taran Taran) Subramaniam, Shri C. (Palani) Tyagi, Shri Om Prakash (Bahrftich) Sudheeran, Shri V. M. (Alleppv) Sukhendra Singh, Shri (Satna) Suman, Shri Ramji Lai (Firozabad) LTgrasen, Shri (Deoria) Suman, Shri Surendra Jha (Dar- Unnikrishnan, Shri K. P. (Badagara) bhanga) Suima Sahib, Shri A. (Palghat)

Suraj Bhan, Shri (Ambala) Vaghela, Shri Shankersinhji (Kapa- Surendra Bikram, Shri (Shah j ah an- dvanj) pur) Vajpayee, Shri Atal Bihari (New Surya Narain Singh, Shri (Sidhu) Delhi Suryanarayana, Shri K. (Eluru) Vakil, Shri Abdul Ahmad (BaramuUa) (xiii)

Varma, Shri Ravindra (Ranchi) Vasisht, Shri Dhanna Vir (Faridabad) Yadav, Shri Gyaneshwar Prasad Veerabhadrappa, Shri K. S. (Bellary) (Khagaria) Venkataraman, Shri R. ( Madras Yadav, Shri Hukmdeo Narain (Ma- South) dhubani) Venkatareddy, Shri P. (Ongola) Yadav, Shri Jagdambi Prasad (Godda) Venkatasubbaiah, Shri P. (NandyaP Yadav Shri Narsingh (Chandauli) Verma, Shri Brij Lai (Mahasemund) Yadav, Shri Ramjilal (Alwar) Verma, Shri Chandradeo Prasad (Arrah) Yadav, Shri Sharad (Jabalpur) Yadav, Shri Vinayak Prasad (Saha- Verma, Shri Hargovind (Sitapur) rsa) Verma, Shri Phool Chand (Shajapur) Yadava, Shri Roop Nath Singh (Pratapgarh) Verma, Shri R. L. P. (Koderma) Yadvendra Dutt, Shri (Jaunpur) Verma, Shri Raghunath Singh (Main- Yuvraj, Shri (Katihar) purl)

Verma, Shri Sukhdev Prasad (Chatra) Visvanathan, Shri C. No. (Tlruppattur) ZuIfiquaruUah, Shri (Sultanpur) LOK SABHA

The Speaker Shri K. S. Hegde

The Deimty-Spcaker Shri Godey Murahari

Panel of Chairman Shri Dhirendranath Basu Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan Dr. Sushila Nayar Shri Ram Murti Shri M. Satyanarayan Rao Shri N. K. Shejwalkar

Secretary Shri Avtar Singh Rikhy

(xiv) GOVERNMENT OF INDIA

Members of Cabinet

The Prime Minister Shri Morarji Desai The Minister of Defence Shri Jagjivan Ram The Minister of Information and Shri L. K. Advani Broadcasting

The Minister of Petroleum and Shri H. N. Bahuguna Chemicals and Fertilizers The Minister of Works and Housing Shri Sikandar Bakht and Supply and Rehabilitation The Minister of Agriculture and Shri Surjit Singh Barnala Irrigation The Minister of Law, Justice and Shri Shanti Bhushan Company Affairs The Minister of Education, Social Dr. Pratap Chandra Chunder Welfare and Culture The Minii:ter of Railways Prof. Madhu Dandavate The Mini;i;ter of Commerce, Civil Shri Mohan Dharia Supplier and Cooperation The Minister of Industry Shri George Fernandes The Minister of Tourism and Civil Shri Purushottam Kaushik Aviation The Minister of Finance Shri H. M. Patel The Minii'.ter of Steel and Mines Shri Biju Patnaik The Minister of Energy Shri P. Ramachandran The Mini::ter of External Affairs Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee

The Minister of Parliamentary Aff­ Shri Ravindra Varma airs and Labour

The Minister of Communications Shri Brijlal Verma

(XV) ( x v i)

MinlsleiB of State

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Satish Agrawal of Finance

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shrimati Renuka Devi Barakataki of Education, Social Welfare and C ulture

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Arif Beg of Commerce, Civil Supplies and Cooperation

The Minister of State in charge of the Shri Chand Ram Ministry of Shipping and Transport

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Krishna Kumar Goyal of Commerce, Civil Supplies and Cooperation

'Hie Minister of State in the Miniartry Shri Dhana Singh Gulshan of Education, Social Welfare and C ulture

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Samarendra Kundu of External Affairs

The Minister of State in the Ministry Kumari Abha Maiti of Industry

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Dhanik Lai Mandal of Home Affairs

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Karia Munda of Steel and Mines

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri S. D. Patil of Home Affairs

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Fazlur Rahman of Energy

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Larang Sai of Labour and Parliamentary Affairs

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Narhari Prasad Sukhdeo Sai of Communications

The Mini«?ter of State in the M inistry Shri Sheo Narain of Hallways

The Minister of State in the Ministry Prof. Sher Singh of Defence (xvii)

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Bhanu Pratap Singh of Agriculture and Irrigation

The Minister of State in the Ministry Dr. Ram Kirpal Sinha of Labour and Parliamentary Affairs

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Jagdambi Prasad Yadav of Health and Family Welfare

The Minister of State in the Ministry Shri Zulflquarullah of Finance LOK SABHA DEBATES

VOL. XIX, First day of the Sixth Session of the Sixtti Lok Sabha No. I

LOK SABHA Gopalan took keen interest in the pro­ blems of the working classes and serv­ ed as Secretary of the Peirce Leslie Workers* Union, Tellicherry. He pas­ Monday, November 20, 1978/Kartikfi sed away at Thottata near Cannanore 29, 1900 (Saka) on 27th September, 1978 at the young age of 42. The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock SHRI N. P. Damodaran was a Mem­ ber of the First Lok Sabha during the years 1952—57 representing Tellicherry constituency of Kerala State. A jour­ [Mr . S peaker in the Chair] nalist and social worker, Shri Damo­ daran was associated with several MEMBER: SWORW social, cultural and youth organisations in his home State. A freedom fighter SHRIMATI INDJRA NEHRU GAN­ he took active part in the freedom DHI (Chikmagalur) movement and was imprisoned for two years in 1942. He was keenly interest­ (Interruptions)** ed in art and culture and led a troupe of artistes from Kerala to Sri Lanka. MR. s p e a k e r : Do not record. Throughout his life he evinced great interest in the field of basic and adult education and development of rural areas. He passed away at New Delhi OBITUARY REFERENCES on 11 October, 1978 at the age of 65. MR'. SPEIAKER: Hon. Members, as Shri Shambhu Nath Shukla was a we meet today after an interval of Member of the Constituent Assembly more than two and a half months, it and the Provisional Parliament during is my sad duty to Inform the House the years 1949—52 representing erst­ of the passing away of six of our while State of Vindhya Pradesh and friends, Shri Pattiam Gopalan, Shri was later a Member of the Fourth Lok N. P. Damodaran, Shri Shambhu Nath Sabha during the years 1967—70 re­ Shukla, Shri Deorao S- Patil, Shrimati presenting Rewa constituency of T. Vedakumari and Dr. Jivraj Mehta. Madhya Pradesh. He was a Member of Vindya Pradesh Legislative Assem­ Shri Pattiam Gopalan was a Member bly and Madhya Pradesh Legislative of the Fourth Lok Sabha during the Assembly during the years 1952—67. In years 1967-70 representing Tellicherry his long political career he served his constituency of Kerala State. Earlier, State in various capacities and hel^i he had been a Member of the Kerala several important offices with distinc­ Legislative Assembly during the years tion. He served as Chief Minister in 1965—67. He was again elected to the erstwhile State of Vindhya PradeSh Kerala Legislative Assembly in 1977 and subsequently held several port­ and was a member of that House till his folios as a Minister in the Madhya death. A trade-unionist, Shri Pattiam Pradesh Government.

**Not recorded Obituary NOVEMBER 20, 1978 References

A renowned journalist, he was the terested in the welfare of women and •editor and founder of several maga­ served as Secretary of the West Goda­ zines and newspapers. He was an vari Branch of All India Woman’s Con eminent scholar of Hindi and a keen ference. She worked ceaselessly for educationist who was responsible for the uplift of women and set up an in­ starting several degree colleges. He stitution for giving free coaching to also served as Vice-Chancellor of women and imparting skill in tailoring Rewa University. A veteran freedom and typewriting etc. A recognised fighter and a Gandhian, he was known artiste in Karnatak music, she broad­ for his scholarly pursuits. He cast programmes regularly over the an important role in the formation ^nd AIR. She passed away at New Delhi emotional integration of the State on :nst October, 1978 at the young age Madhya Pradesh, Shri Shukla passed of 47. away at Bhopal on 21 October, 1978 at the age of 75. Dr. Jivraj Mehta was a Member of the Constituent Assembly during th^ Shri Deorao S. Patil was a Member years 1948-49 and of the Fifth Lok of the Third and Fourth Lok Sabha Sabha during the years 1971—77, re­ during the years 1962—70, represent­ presenting the Amreli constituency of ing Yeotmal constituency of Maha­ Gujarat. Earlier he had been a Mem­ rashtra. He was later elected to Rajya ber of Bombay Legislative Assembly Sabha in 1974 and was a member o^ and Gujarat Vidhan Sabha during the that House at the time of his death. period 1949—63. Earlier, he had been a Member of the Madhya Pradesh Legislative Assembly He played a prominent role in the Bombay Legislative Assembly and Quit India Movement. He suffered im­ Maharashtra Legislative Assembly dur­ prisonment in 1932-33 and again during ing the year 1952—62. 1942—44. A major portion of his life was de­ An agriculturist, he was keenly in­ voted to medical profession in which terested in the uplift of the rural mas­ he attained great eminence. He was ses and was associated with several President of the Indian Medical As­ organisations like Farmers’ Parliamen­ sociation and AH India Medical Con­ tary Forum, Maharashtra State Advi­ ference in 1930 and again in 1945. In sory Committee on Panchayati Raj, 1947, when India attained Indepen­ Maharashtra State Forest and Rural dence, he served as Director-General, Development Committee and Land Re­ Health Services and Secretary to the forms and Agricultural Labour Com­ Ministry of Health in the Central Gov­ mittee of the Planning Commission. A ernment during 1947-48. social worker. Shri Patil was fissociat- ed with several social and educational He was Dewan of Baroda in the institutions and devoted his energies erstwhile Baroda State during 1948-49. to the betterment of the weaker sec­ tions of the society. As a parliament- He was a member of the Governing ariam, he took keen interest in issues Body, Council of scientific and Indus­ pertaining to the uplift of the down- trial Research during 1958—62 and also trodd«i and strongly advocated the of the Governing Body, All India Insti­ removal of untouchability. He passed tute of Medical Sciences New Delhi away at Nagpur on 22nd October, 1978 during 1957—63. a t the age of 63. He helped in the establishment of a Shrimati T. Vedakumari was a University in Baroda and the lT»otituie Member at the Second Lok Sabha dur­ of Management at Ahmedabad. ing the years 1957—62, representing Eluru constituency of Andhra Pradesh. He entered the parliamentary' field A social worker, she was keenly in* in 1948 \^^en he became a Member of Oral Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers the Constituent Assembly. This was (b) which are the agencies that lollowed by his election to Bombay have submitted such applications;, Legislative Assembly in 1949 and he and became a Minister in the Government of Bombay and held the portfolios of (c) the guidelines formulated by Public Works and Finance, Industry Government for disbursement of funds and Prohibition during the period under this project? 1949—60. Later, he became the first Chief Minister of Gujarat after the THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, bifurcation of the bi-linguaj Bombay SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE State and held that position during (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDEK): 1960—63. In 1963 he was apoointed (a) 346 applications have been receiv­ High Commissioner for India in the ed from 1st April, 1978 to 301 h Octo­ United Kingdom and Ambassador to ber, 1978. the Irish Republic, and he served in that capacity during 1963—66. (1)) List attached. [Placcd in Lib­ rary. Sve No. LT-2774/78] He passed away at Bombay on 7th November. 1978 after a prolonged ill­ (c) The guidelines are given \r. the ness at the age of 91. In his death the Scheme of Assistance to VoUmtaiy country has lost an eminent leader, a Agencies working in the field of Adult distinguised physician and administra­ Education, copies of which are available tor and a dedicated patriot. in Parliament House Library.

We deeply mourn the loss of these SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: As per friends and I am sure the House will the guidelines which have been sub­ join me in conveying our condolences mitted by the Government in the to the bereaved families. “Scheme of Assistance to Voluntary Agencies working in the field of Adult The House may stand in silence for Education,’’ the first point is that com­ a short while to express its sorrow. munal organisations are out of the The Members then stood in silence for Scheme. Yet, I am just bringing to the short while. notice of the Government that this is not going to deter the communal orga­ nisation. I have particularly in mind, and I have definite information that ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS RSS is already trying to take advantage of very well-established and very res­ Financial Assistance to Ag^encies for pectable organisations such as the Adult Education Sarvodaya Movement to infiltrate into them. The RSS will do the work of Sarvodaya movement and money •1. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: will be collected by Sarvodaya Orga­ nisation. SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN; MR. s p e a k e r : I will not Movr tbe Will the Minister of EDUCATION, speech. Please put the question. SOCIAL WiELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: My question is this. What steps or what (a) the number of applications measures will lihe Government take, received from voluntary agencies and in particular, will the Government seeking financial assistance to pro­ assure this House that it will appoint mote Adult Education under the a Parliamentary Committee to see that Rs. 200 crore scheme launched re­ funds of this large Scheme do not go cently by Government; to communal organisations like the Oral Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Oral Answers 8

RSS not only directly, but even in­ protest to you at the way in which directly, in the name of respectable your Secretariat plays ducks and organisations like the Sarvodaya drakes with our questions. I do not Movement? know whether you have got a cell to DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- tamper with our questions DER: The guidelines have been provi­ MR. SPEAKER; Mr. AHses.m, if ded and according to them, the State there has been any tampering, you Government are to recommend the ap­ must bring it to my notice. plications of different organisations. Only then we give grants to these or­ ganisations. Government has no pro­ SHRI. O. V. ALAGESAN: I am posal to set up such parliamentary bringing it to your notice. committees. One of my question was: “What are SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO; 1 the amounts that are proposed to be will insist on the Parliamentary Com­ spent on the above programme in var­ mittee and then I proceed to my second ious States” That has been very con­ supplementary. My second .•supplemen­ veniently omitted, I do not know why. tary is, even if the communal organi­ Why should your Secretariat o'nit my sations are out, there are other orga­ question? It is a harmless question. nisations which are not actively and openly communal, but which propa­ MR. SPEAKER: I shall look into it. gate and preach to the small children Please come to your question. a type of philosophy, and understanding of Indian culture which is completely SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN: You lopsided and which has nothing to do are asking me to come to my question, w ith the concept of composite culture but you have already deprived rr.e of enshrined in the Constitution. For it by omitting one of my questiDns. instance, according to the Sishu Man- dirs neither Pandit Nehru nor Mau- This is a very ambitious scheme. lana Azad participated in the freedom You want to educate or biing under movement. Will the Government see the scheme about 100 million people by that these front organisations like the 1983-84, and you want to create 4.000 Sishu Mandirs, this type of organisa­ centres. This scheme depends heavily tions of the RSS, also do not get any for its success on voluntary agencies. assistance? And will the Minister, in I find that in an educated and literate particular, cease to give lesperlability State like Kerala, there is only one to them by presiding over their func­ sociedy that has applied. Again, in tions. These organisations have a lot another very highly... of money? There is a lot of black money to support RSS, but what they MR. SPEAKER: You are a senior require is respectability. Will the Member. Will you kindly put the Minister cease to give respectability to question? them ? SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN: I em DR. PHATAP CHANDRA CHUNDER- pointing out to you that in West Bengal The guidelines point out the conditions only one society has come forward. which should be fulfilled for the pi’r- So, since this scheme depends very pose of getting Government grants heavily on voluntary agencies, will But as \dult Education is to be a Government see to it that really honest national movement, if any organisation voluntary agencies, which are working comes f(irward to work in this field thje field of adult education and without any Government grants, the which have no political or communal Govemn ent cannot stop that organisa­ string or slogan, are chosen In a very tion in I his very noble task. broad-based manner? You have allo­ SHR5. O. V. ALAGESAN: Mr. tted Rs. 200 crores, and it is the con­ Speaker, Sir, I anj sorry, I have to cern of this House that it should be Oral Answers KARTIKA 29, 1^0 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10

spent properly, that it should not be DR. PIRATAP CHANDRA OHUN- wasted. Ultimately it will go up to DER: No centre h^s been allotted to Rs. 800 crores. So, I want to know the RSS by the Government. There is a amounts set apart for the vnrious proper monitoring agency with the help States to prosecute the scheme. of the State Government and we will see that communal organisations do DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- not utilise these agencies for this pur­ DER: For the last pari of the question pose. I will require notice. As I have already pointed out, applications are f(}rwarded SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN; He by the State Governments. I have has not answered my question. 1 taken the matter particularly with asked him how many centres they West Bengal. They have not yet for­ have applied for and how much money warded the applications. If the appli­ hRS been given. cations are forwarded, ceriain'.y they will be considered. DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER: I do not remember off-hand. They MR. SPEAKER: So far as the States said that they would be opening are concerned, you may kindly lay a about 7000 centres. But when the new statement on the Table of the House. scheme had come specifying that vre are not going to give an> Government ^ : TTT5TJfk money to any all-India cultural organi­ IT ^ ^ ?TT?r ^ | % sation and we made it clear to them afterwards, they have not applied for 15 ^ fTf% any grant from us. if 34« ^ SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: He t I n 3TT has not answered my question. I am ^ ffrrr 2 85 | i t ^h-jvTT entitled to an answer Has he f ftr fsPT »frsTr?fi ?f answered my question? 'Tff f3r% ^ ^ % MR. SPEAKER: He has answered. Your question was as to how many 3rf^-Tf =TT^ T>'<. ?ft »rl if centrcs have been opened by RSS and cTT 5T5f % ^'i ?jt't ^ how much money has been allotted. % TT vjif ? After they were told that no cultural organisation will be given Government money, the RSs has not applied for »fo sTO ; anything and no money has been’given. % 5T-THTT ^ SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: About this %>7ig question first he said that there were fjPT % ftr(T 5FTrft applications and, afterwards he said there ^^'ere no applications. It is a tr^: ^<5 W>T ^Ttn very mischievious answer. . .(Interrup­ I I ??T%C!r ^ ^ yet tions) . »i^4Jre 5PT nf MR. SPEAKER: i am not allowing. II Shri Raj Narain. SHRI K. p. UNNIKISHNAN: May I know from the hon. Minister how sft VK f n r m : ^ many centres are proposed to be open­ f ^ JPt % sffe f w r ed by the RSS, to how many centres the grants have been dibursed, and the msRT amounts, and also whether he has en­ I I irsF eft 5?^ t ?rh: sured that these centres will not be f?lft 5T?r I misused for spreading communal poi­ son? % 4*41 % II Oral Answers NOVEMBER 20,1978 Oral Antxtttrt 12

vtn ?n?rnj 'iTiHt ^ ? Arricalttiral Uniyenltj In Hlnutfnhal Pradesh ^ ^ ^ ^im'l ^ f' ^

?7T^T ^ f?ren 3ff ^ * 2. SHRI DURGA CHAND; Will the arrcT ?TTn ftrn ir t rlt t o ^ Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IR­ RIGATION be pleased to state : ift ?iWr 2f e r t t ^ ^ r r JiT^'V fnT^TT I ^'T % (a; Whether Government have jfl:? ?n

SHRI RAJ NARAIN: On a point of THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE order. Sir. AND IRRIGATION (SHRl SURJIT STNGH BARNALA): (a) to (e). A state­ MR*. SPEAKER: No point of order. ment is placed on the Table of the Sabha. •ft TW mrPW : ?ri^ ^ «TPT ??r 5? ^ ^ Statement ^ I Jttt c^ t v ^ Yes, Sir. The Himachal Pradesh I ... I Government has established a separate MR. SPEAKER: He said, all these Agricultural University with ihe con­ currence of the University Grants Com­ papers are laid on the Table of the House and they are available. mission and the Indian Council of Agri­ cultural Research. Twsnrpw : JTsft 3ft ^ The Himachal Pradesh Krishi Vishva cTT^ ^ xdt{<. 5ni 'df^d ^ f ^ I Vidyalaya has been established with IT? VifTrfwit^eift I % 5i7^'t t its main campus at Palampur and the second campus at Khaltoo (Solan) for 3rr 5PT «Tf 5f5npT ^ Jf srr j r providing research, education and tvain- *Tl 11 ing support for the development of Agriculture including Horticulture, The Minister should come prepared. Forestry, Animal Husbandry and allied Otherwise, he should leave the Minis­ fields in the State of Himachal Pradesh. try. This is not the way to answer the The University would have state-wise question. responsibility for agricultural research and would operate on the principle of ^ ^ ^rtTrr ^ integration of teaching, research and ^ ir a k 5> 1 1 ... («WWR) extension education. 13 Oral Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14 The University has already been es­ ^ jpif WSf : % tablished. It was inaugurated by the President of India at Palam pur on November 1, 1978. The main objectives of the University are given below:'— T?r ?nT (1) making provision for imparting education in different branches of i m I ? ( « m H ) study, particularly agriculture, agri­ cultural engineering. horticulture, veterinary and animal science, fish­ ery, forestry, home-science, food science and any other allied branches I— ir I %(\x of learning and scholarship which the University may find necessary to include; I ! r k (2) furthering the advancement of ^ learning and prosecution of research, ( f r m ) vi ' s r ^ r spf particularly in agriculture, and other allied sciences; ?T5nT-?r?r’r ^ ft>rr (3) undertaking the extension of such sciences specially to the rural ^ ^ f ^ r people of the State; and ? n f 0 iTo q-nio 3r^9?T i

(4) such other purposes as the «ft |»lf : if ??PTT University may from time to time 3TRT €T5T % determine. Integration of teaching, research and extension; internal eva­ luation course-credit-trimestcr sys­ tem of education, unified administra­ f^ q r >mT't ? JTf arrr Tctt t 1 tion and operational autonomy are other salient features of the Uni­ SHRI SURJIT SINGH BAKNALA; versity. The total amount has not been allotted by the Central Gfovemment. It has to The University has been established be supplied by the State Government for imparting agricultural education to and also to be shared by the ICAR... the talented students. As it has been SHRI VJJAYKUMAR N. PATIL: I established by the Himachal Prp.desh want to know from the Minister whe­ Govemmenf, it would primarily cater ther, in the light of the fact that an to the needs of Himachal Pradesh. Agricultural University has already been established on the American pat­ tern with the intention that it should be self-sufficient in agricultural re­ search, and as the Pantnagar Univer­ sity has demanded . . . i ?ft HTOT HT5FR arerrl MR. SPEAKER*: That does not arise from the question. (w w h ) ...... SHRI VIJAYKUMAR N. PATI: I SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: On a point want to know from where the finances of order ___(Interruptions)** will come—from the State Government MR. SPEAKER: Don’t record. or the Central Government. What is the pattern the Government has pro­ (Interruptions) * * posed for the University to be set up.

••Not recorded. 2962 LS—3. '15 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Oral Answers SHRI SUHJIT SINGH BA>JNALA: including the loss—whether it is 1 per It has to be supplied by the state Gov­ cent or 5 per cent. My information ernment and also the ICAR. From both is that, according to the press reports these agencies, financial assistance has widely published in Andhra Pradesh to go to the University. and various other places throughout the country, fifty crore tons of rice TTK V T t ^ t ft" THiJT were stored at the FCI godwns, and the Food Corporation of India has s it^ w ipfw ^ written off nearly two-and-a-half crore tons. So I want a specific ans­ rm i *rar | ? Tr3p?

SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: Whenever we raise questions like this, The Food Corporation of India have in the beginning they will say that no­ no capacity for proper storage. Huge thing has happened, but after two or quantities are lying with the agricultu­ three years they will give the details. rists. The Reserve Bank is not giving 17 Oral Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers l8

loans to the farmers. The Government is only encouraging ___

MR. SPEAKER; That is not the f m I I question here. ^ |WT«TT SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA; Tf? T7T qf? That is also involved in this. |?rT I ?r'T % MR. SPEAKER: You are trying to ^ I m | ? involve it.

SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: I I ir They have no capacity for proper storage. Instead of keeping in damag­ I ed godowns, will Government consi­ der giving loans to the agriculturists and al'.ow the farmers to keep the pad­ dy themselves. Unless I go to the Food ^ 'Tfrfsnnfr m Corporation or any trader, I cannot 5Tfw jt It get any loan. Will Government allow iTJTT fe rr, WT 5rrr?r storage by farmers themselves in their godowns and give them loans I ? w ?ntT It ?nq: rr-f for this purpose? Tf^T ^TT'T T | t JJTjTlfT^ Hff|? SHRI EfiiANU PRATAP SINGH; q-f? c r |^ ^?T ?TT'T% ^ There is ample storage space available with us, and if the State Government will require iur help, we will help them in procuring any amount of paddy or rice. «ft >Tnr sm rr fn? : ?rtvr ^TT IT? I ^ SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA : ZZ q-Tl^'T I Shocking reports appeared in the news fTTlTH f 5 It ^ ’T p •’IT t ?fl7: papers. After the appearance of these reports about damage to stocks of ^rr^rfr nm | i lice, have Government taken steps to institute any inquiry into the veracity : IT? 5t7:t ^rerr^r of these reports? Or, have the Govern­ ment merely relied upon the routine «tt I i ^t^ information from the officers? in r ^ sit I iTTT ?T^H «TT fsp ?TtCT ^rtspiT It 5T«( STT'T^ SHRI BHANU PRATAP SINGH; We zTf f?r^nT5T ^ t^ ^leed not verify because we know that there has not been damage to the jfrnr ^ I, ?JT ^ extent it was reported in the press. 5T> PTT sp^JT ?fV ^ ^ T ^ ’The fact is that, soon after the cycl­ ? one, there were reports that there ''’ere heavy damages, but we have salvaged most of them. Only a small «ft JWR ftnj : Portion has been rendered unfit for ^'unan consumption. 11^ *1TC w it 1 1 19 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Oral Answers 20

Hiffaer Procuranent Prices for Paddy The procurement prices, as fixed and Coarse Grains above, are higher than the procure­ ment prices in 1977-78 which w ere + Rs. 77/- per quintal for paddy and •4. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Rs, 74/- for coarse grains. SHRI S. S. SOMANI: SHRI K. MALLANNA: I am very sorry the Ministry has not properly Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE answered my questions. AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: My first question is: (a) whether it is a fact that majo­ rity of the Southern and Eastern “Whetfier it is a fact that majo­ States have strongly pleaded for rity of the Southern and Eastern higher procurement prices for paddy States have strongly pleaded for and coarse grain; higher procurement prices for pad­ dy and coarse grains?’’ (b) if so, whether any discussion This has not been answered. You in this regard has taken place with can go through the answer. Then the Chief Ministers of Southern the second question is: States; and “If so, whether any discussion in (c) if so, the details regarding the this regard has taken place with the decisions taken thereon? Chief Ministers of Southern States?’’ That has also not been answered.

MR. SPEAKER: He has said ‘Yes’ to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE both (a) and (b). AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU SHRI K. MALLANNA: In view of PRATAP SINGH): (a) and (b). Yes, the fact that the prices of the inputs Sir. for agricultural production, that is, labour, agricultural implements, fer­ (c) After taking into consideration tilisers, water rates are increasing and the recommendations of the Agricultu­ the prices of foodgrains day by day ral Prices Commission and the views are even decreasing in some States-- of the State Chief Ministers/Food particularly, in the Southern States it Ministers, the Government of India has gone below the fixed rates— and took the following decisions: So far as the prices of raw foodgrains and the finished materials are concer­ ned, there is a lot of difference and (1) The procurement price for the monopoly trade is making so paddy for the marketing season much profits----- 1978-79 has been fixed at Rs. 85/- per quintal for the coarse variety MR. SPEAKER; You are giving in­ and the procurement prices for formation. Please ask yor question. other varieties of paddy are to be derived from the price of the coarse SHRI K. MALLANNA: The agricul­ variety on the basis of traditional tural Prices Commission is another differentials in the various States. bogus organisation and it is a mouth­ piece of the monopoly trade. It has (2) The procurement price of coa­ taken entirely a negative attitude. rse grains for the marketing season 1978-79 has been fixed at Rs. 85/- MR. SPEAKER: Please come to the per quintal. question. 31 Oral Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22 I^HRI K. MALLANNA: In view of tffy jnrr I ? the bumper crop and the moisture per­ centage in the paddy, it has fixed a t ^'V I % ■^T lower price.

May I know from the hon. Minister 8 5 ?TK cTIT M W ^ Jr ?TTT whether the government is thinking JTf^^T t ^ I I fTO# of fixing a reasonable price for paddy Or whether the government is going r ^ r »T5TT «TV 1 ^ to nationalise or take over the public f ^ > T n ff T^JT *nrr t ? distribution system in the country? ^ ir 8 5 SHRI BHANU PRATAP SINGH: There is no proposal under considera­ tion of the Gk>vernment to take over the entire foodgrains trade or nationa­ ^ sRfTT srr?- lise it. f tir ir ferrJff % srfrrfrrfHr % f t As far as the prices are concerned, t I I I may state that the price of paddy is Rs. 8 more than the last year’s price I ? per quintal and this increase has been given in ^’lew of the increase in the prices of inputs etc. ^ SI?TTT T'lrtJlT fia^ I SHRI K. MALLANNA- In view of the fact that the prices of paddy have decreased and so far as the subsidy as is concerned, wheat is given more t ^ tfijTsr^r 1 1 subsidy as also the coarse grains HTT3fT ^ ?f|- 5inf:t srr? whereas so far as rice is concerned, only a 4 paise subsidy is given, may jcr 3T^ *rf I 1 I know from the Minister whether he ?TT'S Vt5VFR ^ is going to enhance this subidy for paddy? 1

SHRI BHANU PRATAP SINGH: The fact that the procurement price SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: of paddy has been increased and there How many members are in the Agri- will be no increase in the issue price cultural Prices Commission? How of rice, will show that there is an ele­ many farmers are there except Shri ment of subsidy in the distribution of Randhir Singh? I want to know whe­ rice. ther the Minister considers the issue price of paddy as remunerative? We have also decided to increase the issue price of wheat, so that the element of subsidy that is distributed SHRI BHANU PRATAP SINGH: in wheat is reduced and the same in There is only ona representative of rioe is increased. farmers. As for its being remunera­ tive, this is the view of the Govern­ ment that Rs. 85/- per quintal is a re­ munerative price.

it »fTfT^9 ? ’TT =T|f; % jf ^ fir rrrx-T 23 Oral Answers KARTIKA 2®, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers 24

TT K t Tft | %fk (b) if so, the salient features there­ of and the prospects of all India application of the strategy; and ftrq «TT t • (c) the quantum of assistance pro­ fit SRTTT f«f : t posed to be given by the Centre to m g, ^'fTTTT ^ a r ^ r Tamil Nadu for the success of the efforts for streamlining vocationa'l s r r ^ t xr^ ^ r 11 education? ^ 'r a r ^ r ^TT 1 1 'h tq , t iTTKiftJi h r w i ^ THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, fnf^M f^TKT g fap ^ ^ SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- ^ 'if T m ^ eft DER): (a) to (c). A statement is laid on the Table of the Sabha.

SHRI BALWANT SIGNH RAM- Statement OOWALIA: Sir, according to reports, it is alleged that though the price of (a) and (b). The Government of paddy was increased by Rs. 0/- by the India is aware that the State Govern­ Government, more than seventy per ment of Tamil Nadu have taken ap­ cent of it was purchased by the preciable steps for introduction of F. C. I. But the paddy in the mandis vocational education at the higher se­ at Punjab and Haryana were purcha­ condary stage. From the current ac­ sed at Rs. 80/- only. ademic session both academic and vo­ cational spectrums have been provided Does the Minister know that the in­ at the Higher Secondary Stage. The nocent peasantry has undergone a loss Committee on Vocational Education, of Rs. crores due to the discretio­ 10 appointed by the State Government in nary powers of the Purchasing Ins­ 1976, has identified 52 vocational sub­ pectors and the quality Inspectors of jects covering occupational areas of the F. C. I. Will the Government con­ Agriculture, Home Science^ Commerce duct an inquiry into it? and Business, Engineering and Tech­ SHRI BHANU PRATAP SINGH: nology, Health and others. The syl­ We will conduct an inquiry on receipt labi for these courses has been prepar­ of a specific complaint. ed by the Experts Committees. Some of the guide-books for teachers have been prepared and others are under Reorientation of Vocational preparation. The State Government Education has taken stepg to seek the collabora­ + tion of various employing agencies for ♦5. SHRI RAGAVALU MOHANA- on-the-job training as well as utilisa­ RANGAM: tion of part-time services of experts DR. RAMJI SINGH: for instruction. District level com­ mittees have been established to over­ Will the Minister of EDUCATION, see the implementation of the scheme. SOCIAL w e l f a r e AND CULTURE Under the vocational spectrum a sti- be pleased to state: dent has to study one subject common with academic spectrum, one or two (a) whether Government have stu­ subjects relating to tJie vocation and died the notable steps reported to one vocational subject and two Ian- have been taken by TamU Nadu guaps. The two languages and one towards reorienting vocational edu- subject common with academic stream catkA so aa to maike it more mean- has been made compulsory to enable the students to dilft to academic 25 Oral Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26. spectrum with some Bridge Courses, PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: I if they so desire. Out of 913 higher find that answer is only with regard secondary schools, vocational courses to (a) and (b) parts of the question. have been introduced in 709 schools Part (c) is completely left out from and 22,639 students have joined the the statement laid on the Table. vocational spectrum during the current year. The reply relates to PaHs (a) and (b) The National Review Committee on only. Part (c) is completely left out. Higher Secondary Education with spe­ I would like you to see how this has cial reference to Vocationalisation has recommended three different models in happened. offering of electives—( 1) those schools DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- which offer only General Education DER: There is answer to part (c) of Spectrum; (ii) those schools which offer the question also. only Vocationalised Education Spectrum; and (iii) those which offer Sir, as regards the supplementary both. The Tamil Nadu has chosen the question although it does not direct­ third model. As far as other States ly arise from the main question yet are concerned, they are free to adapt I will try to give some idea. We the scheme of vocationalisation, keep­ have made some progress in Karna­ ing in view the recommendations of taka. There has been preparation of the Adiseshiah Committee and the syllabi and during the academic year Working Group on Vocationalisation. 1977-78, 13 institutions were selected (c) Under the centrally sponsored for introduction of vocational educa­ scheme of vocationalization of higher tion. The total number of students secondary education, a grant-in-aid of is 1,040, and 52 vocational courses Rs. 82,500/- was released to the State have been undertaken. Similarly, Government of Tamil Nadu during in Gujarat they have undertaken a 1977-78 for conduct of vocational sur­ very fine scheme and developmental veys in six district. No further re­ expenditure is being taken on the quest from the State for grant-in-aid budget of various departments for under this scheme has been received. whom the man-power is needed. SHRI RAGAVALU MOHANARAN- Maharashtra has introduced 19 voca­ GAM: Mr . Speaker, Sir, the reply tional courses and selected 34 institu­ given by the hon. Minister is that Gov­ tions. They are conducting surveys in ernment is aware that Government of some of the districts. Similarly, in Tamilnadu have introduced vocation­ 1976-77 West Bengal introduced voca­ al system of education. tional courses in 19 institutions loca­ ted in 16 districts. In Delhi 17 I want to know the names of ^he schools have opted. other States. We have introduced vo­ cational education, especially, after the SHRI RAGAVALU MOHANARAN- survey by the National Review Com.- GAM; I want to know from the Mini­ mittee. They have introduced three ster how much amount they are going models. The scheme of education is in to spend for survey in remaining dis­ regard to General Education; the se­ tricts of Madras in the year 1978-79? cond is the vocational education. An­ other is for both. I want to know the DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- names of the other States that have DER: Sir, I had personally visited introduced the vocational system of Madras and had discussions with education. hon’ble Education Minister there. Tamil Nadu is doing very fine work in DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- this respect. If they send us schemes DER: I would respectfully submit that for further survey we will consider this question does not flow from this. them as favourably as possible. 27 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Oral Answers 28

; fi(r5T*f^'r ^ ^ Those who have school-going child­ ren are never certain as to what ex­ ftrwr far^r^ fe rr actly is going to happen in the next t v k fw«rr jfTjprr Jr 10 -2 v't year. So, will the hon. Minister as­ 5ft ?3fr^iT %JH t ?T'T 53TTOTJT ?T*rT sure the House what is going to hap­ pen in the next year? % ^ |f fisi«WT 5TT *icT % ?T ^5ff Jr fa^nrr ^rpn ^ ftfrsrr ftr«r5?r MR. SPEAKER: This is a much wid­ % ?ITHrT, ^?trf5T^ I ? Jrf? I er question. It does not arise. ?TT fir?: t !T?T

DR. KARAN SINGH: Sir, vocatio- MR. SPEAKER; The question a nalisation of education is a very im­ ’united one. portant factor. To make it more meaningful and to prevent the drift JWTO : ?nfV that at present characterises our edu­ I I 3 * ^ »ft cational flystem, the hon’ble Minister has commended the initiative taken by II the Tamil Nadu Government. I wo^d MR. SPEIAKER: No please. I no to like to know what steps he is taking the next Question-Question No. 6. as Union Education Minister to see that this vocationalisation becomes an Cauvtry mo* integral part of the general education •8. SHRI KUMARI ANANTHAN: system in this coimtry because as a Will the Ministwr of AGRICULTURE result of the amWguous attitudes ex­ AND IRRIGATION be pleased to pressed On the present system there etata; ig utter confusion and chaos with re­ gard to 10 pliis 2 plus 8, whether it (a) the reasons for the deadlock li is going to be modified or not. the recent Cauvery talks betweoa 30 2 9 Oral Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers the Chief Ministers of Tamil Nadu, SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: The Government of Tamil Nadu has Karnataka and Kerala; submitted certain facts. It is not a scheme as such. It is not a new (b) whether Tamil Nadu has put fccheme, but some new facts have been forward any fresh proposal on sharing mentioned by the Tamil Nadu Gov­ of Cauvery waters; and ernment. And these were given in the form of a Paper submitted to the (c) if so, the nature of the propo­ various concerned States and also to sal? the Central Government.

•SHRI KUMARI ANANTHAN: Mr. THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ Speaker, Sir in Tamil ‘Cauvery’ means TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI spreading of ‘greenery’. I am afraid SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) to that, without the waters of Cauvery, (c). A statement is laid on the Table only desert area will be spreading. I of the House. am afraid that Tamil Nadu would be­ come an arid zone. I would like to Statement know whether the Government of India have formulated any time-bound (a) to (c). An understanding had plan for settling the Cauvery water been reached among the States of dispute. Karnataka, Kerala and Tamil Nadu in August 1976 after a long spell of in­ SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: tense deliberations at technical and Mr. Speaker, S i r .... political levels. The recent Cauvery talks were conducted with a view to MR. SPEAKER: It is a suggestion having this August 1976 understand­ for action. ing ratified by the States so that it SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: could be implemented without further It is correct that the Cauver>^ water delay. As the talks proceeded, it was is needed for irrigating the arid lands; seen that there was no common ground but the Arid land is there not only in based on which a satisfactory settle­ Tamil Nadu but it is there in Kar­ ment could be reached. Tamil Nadu nataka and also to some extent in objected to the understanding on the Kerala. (Interruptions). ground that it was reached at a time when there was no popular Govern­ MR. SPEAKER: He has understood ment in the State. Tamil Nadu also it. 7/anted that its ayacut should be pro­ tected adequately by ensuring certain SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR: The hon. releases from Mettur and not by Member said that solal will become effecting definite savings from its own palai I think, that, he has not under­ existing uses. stood, People are very much enamoured of our national languages. And we •SHRI KUMAR! ANANTHAN: Mr. are very proud that my sweet Tamil Speaker, I regret to say that the hon. is being used in the Question Hour. 1 Minister’s answer to the question am thankful to you, Sir, for permitting whether the Tamil Nadu Government some of our Members for putting has submitted any alternative pro­ Questions in Tamil. So, I am grateful posals about Glaring ol Cauvery waters to you. As a patriot, I must thank is very unsatisfactory. No details you for that. But, I am also afraid about the alternative sdietne of the that the hon. Minister has not undei> Tamil Na^iu Government have also stood the expression of it and so he ^ n given by the hon. Minister. is not able to answer it. •The question was put in Tamil. Oral Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Oral Answers 32 MR, SPEAKER: I may tell you, as between them; we are not going to an exception I have permitted it, be­ appoint any tribunal for this purpose. cause some of them have this difficulty. Under the rules----- DR. HENRY AUSTIN: May I know SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR: You from the hon. Minister, how long will must amend the rules, Sir. the Government wait for settling these riparian disputes? As is known, in MR. SPEIAKER: Because some of Kerala, for instance, there was an them do not follow, therefore, I have agreement in 1976 and the Chief made an exception. Minister and the team that accompani­ ed him insisted on keeping up that SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR: In my agreement. But since then, nothing party six of them cannot understand. has been done. As you know, even in Tamil Nadu and Karnataka, the food MR. SPEAKER: I will try to do it. position is marginal and in view of the There was no question to be answered. extensive arid lands available there, He has only made certain suggestions. this problem should have been solved earlier. There were devastating floods Now, Shri Poojary. recently; jnost of the rivers have been in spate in Kerala and Tamil Nadu SHRI KUMARI ANANTHAN:** and these States have suffered serious damages. May I know, what steps the MR. SPEAKER: Do not record. Government are taking to come to an early settlement of these disputes and SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: with regard to Kerala and the position All the concerned three States in their that we have taken at the Conference efforts for arriving at a settlement have of the three States? Said that there is a stalemate. Are the Central Government going to insist keeping the 1976 agreement as the basis SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: for settlement and if it fails, will the There have been only two agreements Government appoint a tribunal and earlier regarding Cauvery, one in 1892 declare these national waters as a and the other in 1924. The 1924 national asset? agreement also expired after 50 years, i.e. in February, 1974 and since then efforts have been made for all these SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: States to reach an understanding and In August, 1976, an understanding was agreement, so that proper utilisation reached—it was not an agreement— of water by all the States could be and my effort was that all the States done. should agree to that understanding and it should come into the form of an agreement. That is what I was try­ Dams in Damodar, Kangsabati ai^ ing for. I held three meetings for Mayurakshi that purpose, but unfortunately, an 4" understanding could not be finalised •7. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSUi to be converted into an agreement. So far, there is no agreement which SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA HALDER: can be executed right now.

SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Are you going to appoint a tribunal? AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state whether Government are considering SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: the demand for constructing at least We are trjring to reach an agreement four more dams in Damodar and two

••Not recorded 33 Oral Answers KARTIKA 20, 1900 (SAKA) Oral Answers 34 dams in Kangsabati and Mayurakshi lack of will on the part of the con­ in view of the recent floods in West cerned States. Bengal? SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Is it THE m in is t e r o f AGRICULTURE also not a fact that the great engineer AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT Mr. Woorduin had foreseen the dangers SINGH BARNALA): Four dams have of such a half-hearted implementation been built by the D.V.C. and investi­ of the original scheme? Is it also not gation for a dam at Balpahari has been a fact that he had warned that if a taken up. Construction of a dam on the flood larger than the flood for which upper Kangsabati has also been propos­ protection is provided, did occur, the ed and the project report is under damage and loss of life would be far technical scrutiny of the Central greater? If so, what action has been Government. taken on the same?

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Sir, is SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: the hon. Minister aware of the fact In 1943, there had been a big flood in and if so, what action has he taken that area; and it was after that, that that the author of the Idea of Damodar this DVC project was envisaged and Valley Project, Mr. M. L. Woorduin it was actually brought into practice. had visualised eight dams at Tilaiya, He had visualized earlier that in 100 Konar, Maithon, Panchet, Bokaro years, there might be a flood of 1 Balpahari, Bermo and Aiyar and out million cusecs. This year, the total of which only the first four dams have inflow into these dams has been to the been constructed? The total capacity tune of something more than 8 lakh of the proposed eight dams could have cusecs. It was a big flood this time. taken care of one million cusecs of flood But these 4 dams also were worth a water. Under the circumstances, does good deal, and they were able to con­ the Government propose to build the serve some of the inflows, and thus rest four dams or leave that part of avoid a flood in the lower reaches. the country into the hands of nature and flood havoc? SHRI CHITTA BASU: The hon. Minister has been pleased to mention SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: that the 8 dams which were originally Originally, for the Damodar VaUey envisaged, could not be constructed Project, eight dams were thought of because of lack of funds. May I know and it was envisaged that eight dams from the hon. Minister whether should be constructed, but due to Government have now decided to re­ paucity of funds and concerned States lease more funds for flood control not agreeing to that, only four dams measures? If so, in view of the- have been constructed. As I mention­ Government’s intention to release ed in my answer to the Question, right more funds for flood control measures, now, investigation for a dam at Bal­ will Government reconsider the ques­ pahari is going on. No work is being tion of constructing the remaining 4 done on any of the other 3 dams. dams, and save West Bengal from the onslaught of floods? (Interruptions). SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: I said Mr. Woorduin had insisted on 8 dams. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: The But now they have built 4, and 1 is clock has stopped! under survey. What about the other 3? He has not answered that part. If he MR. SPEAKER: No, no. There is answers, I will be satisfied. 1 minute more. I have got the watch here. SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: I said it was not done earlier because SHRI CHITTA BASU; Will the lack of funds and also because of Minister take up the matter with the 35 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Oral Answers 36

concerned States, so that they may avoid future flood havoc in West also be agreeable to the construction Bengal. of the remaining 4 dams? SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: The only thing is that instead of 8 It is an inter-State river. So, the dams, 4 dams were constructed. The constraint of funds was not the only Government is aware of the Report reason. The dispHite between the of the Meghnad Saha Committee also States, i.e. their not having agreed to because he was a member of that having more dams was also one of the Committee when all this was envisag­ reasons why all the 8 dams could not ed. As I earlier mentioned, in the be constructed. beginning, 8 dams were envisaged and 4 were constructed. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Samar Guha. Mr. Chitta Basu, your question does MR. SPEAKER; W hether there is a not really arise from the main ques­ proposal before the High Power Com­ tion. mission? (Interruptions) SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA: MR. SPEAKER: Don’t record. Now, There is no such proposal. Mr. Samar Guha.

PROF. SAMAR GUHA: Is it a fact that Dr. Meghnad Saha, at the time of WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS the construction of this DVC project not only once but repeatedly wrote to the Government—in the form of Reorientation of Education System memoranda and of articles—and made a representation to Jawaharlal Nehru •8. SHRI R. KOLANTHAIVELU: at that time that if this type of faulty SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR: scheme was introduced—on the basis of which tiie DVC project had been mader-it will create havoc, flood and Will the Minister of EDUCATION, devastation, instead of creating re­ SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE servoirs and others? Has the Govern­ be pleased to state: ment gone through the report of (a) whether it is a fact that the Mioghnad Saha, and on the basis of last word has not been said about thm, is the Cxovemment going to make reorienting educational system to a review? national needs;

MR. SPEAKER: What is this ques­ (b) if so, whether Government tion? Anjrway, once a question is put, have ^ I t out, the final format of it has to be answered. Once I allow a the roariented scheme; and question, it lias to be answered. (c) the time frame by which the new scheme will be implemented? (Interruptions) You cannot go on making a speech. THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE PROP. SAMAR GUHA: Whether the (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- 'Government is going to constitute a DER): (a) to (c). Based on the re- high power committee to go into the commendations of the Kothari construction of these dams so as to Commission, the Government of India

recorded. 37 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 38 enunciated the National Policy on tioD), an autonomous oi^ganisation set Fducation, 1968. This Policy provided up by the Government of India in the for a review every five years of the Ministry of Education, sets up progress made so that guide-lines Kendriya Vidyalayas for the benefit could be formulated for future develop­ of transferable Central Government ment. The present Government on employees. As of today the Sangathan assumption of charge undertook a is authorised to set up only 12 Ken­ review with a view to revising the driya Vidalayas during a year, besides Policy. However pending the review Kendriya Vidyalayas fully financed by which implied consultation with the Public Sector Undertakings. The State Governments and various edu­ present number of Kendriya Vidya­ cational authorities, the Government layas throughout the country is 265. announced its intentions to proceed There is a proposal to increase the with urgent programmes of reform number of Kendriya Vidyalayas to be which included spread of literacy set up from 1979-80 onwards. among the people and reform of con­ tents of education at all stages. In accordance with these objectives, a Other Ministries including Defence time-bound plan for spreading educa­ and Railways also set up Secondary tion among the illiterate adults of our Schools for the exclusive benefit of country and universalisation of their employees. elementary education for the children of the age-group 6—14 has been for­ mulated Action has also been taken Damage due to Floods to revise the contents of education at all stages of education. Meanwhile, consultations have taken place with ‘^ *10. SHRI SHIV SAMPATI RAM: various educational authorities and the State Gov'ernments and Government SHRI PRADYUMNA BAL: ha\e atttempted a draft National Policy on Education which is now receiving its final touches. Govern­ Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE ment hope to place this draft Policy AND IRRIGATION be pleased to before Parliament soon. state:

Central Govt. Secondary Schools (a) the extent of damage to crops, livestock and human lives caused in ♦9. SHRI RUDOLBH RODRIGUES: each State during the recent floods; Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (b) the monetary and other assis­ be pleased to state: tance sought from the Centre by each (a) whether there is any scheme State and the extent of assistance provided by the Centre to each State; for the rapid expansion in the num­ ber of Central Government Secon­ and dary Schools; (c) whether the assistance so far (b) if so, the details thereof; and provided to each State is considered sufficient and if not, the further (c) if not, the reasons thereof? assistance proposed to be provided to each State? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE m in is t r y o f EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULURE (SHRIMATI THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE RENUKA DEVI BARAKATAKI): (a) AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT to (c). The Kendriya Vidalaya SINGH BARNALA): (a) The extent of Sangathan (Central Schools Organisa- damage to crops, livestock and human 39 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 4 0 lives caused due to the recent floods, as basis of their preliminary assess:nent, -reported by the State Govts, on the IS indicated below:

State Crop?»ed area Livestock Human lives affected Jost lost. (Lakh hens)

1. Andhra Pradesh 1 .92 52 a. Assam 0 .19 5 2 3. Bihar 9 -3^ 466 iCo

4. Gjjarat 2 .56 51 J 5. Haryana . 4-^'7 2,fj37 ;2 6. Himachal Pradesh 0.87 766

7. Jammu & Kashmir . N. R. N.R. N. R

Kf^raln 1 .oG To

9. Madhya Pradesh N.R. (,04 -3 10. Orissa 3-27 272 21 II. Puiijab 0.48 35 10 12. Rajasthaii . if..58 842 75

13. Uttar Pradesh 37-92 7.392 -f 2 i'4. West Bengr.l 13.28 2,01.345 ;

15. Delhi N.R. 166 17

(b) On receipt of requests from the tance. On the basis of the recommen- SiaVe Governments for Central cations of the Central Teams and the assistance for meeting the additional High Level Committee on Relief, the expenditure necessitated by floods, following quantum of advance Plan Central Teams were deputed to the assistance and foodgrains, as grant, affected States to make an assessment for distribution as gratuitous relief of the situation and the requirements has been allocated to the affected of the States for advance Plan assis- States:

State Advance Plan Focdprains assistance WhcM Rire ^Rs. cr^res)

I 2 3 4

I. Bihar 44.92 40,000 —

2. Harvana . ^5*30 2,500 —

3. Himachal Pradesh 6.Q9 2,000 — 4. Jammu & Kashmir 0.26 217 — 6-75 fijOOO — 41 WritUn Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 42

3

6.’^ Rajasthan . 9-58 7.000 — 7. Uttar Pradf*sh 54-22 50.000 —

West Bengal 88.93 50,000 .:^5.cco+ 500 tnasoor dal 14. Drihi A provision of 2 ,OCO — Rs. 3 .00 cro- rcs has beer made bv the Min. of Home AfTairs [, for nice ting tlie F.itiiaticrj rari^t d h\ flot'd*;.

The question of providing advance Of the States, the quantum of Central Plan assistance/foodgrains to the re­ assistance can generally be presumed maining flood afTected States is under to be reasonably adequate. The consideration. position is kept continuously under review and care is taken to ensure that (c) Prior to 1-4-1974, the Central the affected population in no State Government used to give relief grants goes without adequate relief and re­ to the States affected by natural habilitation. calannities in addition to the margin money which was available to the Suicide by Govt. School Teacher in State Governments. On the accep­ Delhi tance of recommendations of tHe Sixth Finance Commission by the ni. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL Government, the margin money avail­ REDDY: Will the Minister of EDU­ able to the State Governments was CATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND mcreased and Central grant for CULTURE be pleased to state: relief was replaced by advance (a) whether a teacher of Govern­ Plan assistance to be determined on ment School in Delhi committed the basis of recommendations of the suicide during October, 1978; Central Teams and a High Level Committee under the Chairmanship (b) if so, whether Govertiment have of the Member, Planning Commission. ascertained the circumstances that Thus relief operations are entirely compelled him to end his life; and now within the purview of the State (c) if so. w hat action Government Governments. However, from 1977 have taken in this regard? onwards, the Central Government in addition to advance Plan assistance THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE has been giving foodgrains free of cost MINISTRY OF EDUCATION. SOCIAL for relief operations to the State Gov­ WELFARE AND CULTURE (SHRI- ernments. Since advance Plan assist­ MATI RBNUKA DEVI BARAKA- ance and free foodgrains are made TAKI): (a) to (c). According to the in­ available to the State Governments on formation made available by the Delhi the recommendations of the Central Administration, a teacher of the Gov­ Teams who make an on-the-spot assess­ ernment School in Delhi committed ment after detailed discussions with the suicide during September, 1978. He did officers of the State Governments and not leave behind any suicide note nor keeping in view the overall financial could he make any dying declaration. position and organisational capability Therefore, the precise cause for the 43 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 WHtten Answers 44

suicide obviously cannot be established has been caused to some of the Gom- beyond doubt. However, investiga­ phas by the unprecedented rains. tion of the case by the police authori­ ties has revealed that the teacher was (b) and (c). Yes. The Survey is suffering from some mental disease for undertaking measures for the preser­ the last eight months and was getting vation of Gomphas which are proposed treatment at the All India Institute of to be protected as monument of na­ Medical Sciences, New Delhi. The wife tional importance. The measures in­ of the deceased stated during the in­ clude items like changing rotten vestigation that her husband, on re­ wooden members, stabilising damaged ceipt of his transfer order to a rural walls, making the roof of monuments school at village Singhu, looked watertight. weary and worried. On 27th Septem­ ber, 1978 at about 9.15 A.M., she noticed Financial Assistance for Oriental something burning in the room of Manuscript Library Trivandrum upper floor and then discovered that her husband had set himself on fire. *13. SHRI GEORGE MATHEW: Will The deceased succumbed to burn the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL injuries on the same day. WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: No action is considered necessary in the matter because transfer of a (a) whether the Union Government Government ser\^ant including a have received a proposal from the teacher during the course of his service Kerala Government for financial assist, ance to the tune of Rs. 13-25 lakhs career could not be an occasion for committing suicide. It was open to for the construction of buildingg for the deceased to file a representation the Oriental Manuscript Library at Trivandrum; and for review of his transfer order on medical grounds as has been done in (b) since there has been no response similar circumstances by a good num­ from the Ministry of Education after ber of teachers. 27th April, 1973, when will the assist­ ance be granted? Repairs of ancient Baddhisi Temples THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE *12. SHRIMATI PARVATI DEVI: (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDER): Will the Minister of EDUCATION, (a) and (b). A proposal for financial SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE assistance to the tune of Rs. 13.25 lakhs be pleased to state: —Rs. 10.25 lakhs for the construction of the building of the Oriental Manu­ (a) whether it is a fact that recent script Library of the University of floods had caused severe damages to Kerala and Rs. 3 lakhs for a Micro­ the “Gomphas and Maths’’ in Ladakh film Unit was received from the Gov­ (Jam m u and K ashm ir State); ernment of Kerala in August, 1977. The proposal was referred to the UGC (b) whether Grovemment propose as the Commission is the authority to help undertake repairs of these estafcdished by Grovernment for assist­ ancient Buddhist temples; and ing Universities. The UGC on the recommendations of the Visiting Com­ (c) if so, the details thereof? mittee appointed by them has approv­ ed non-recurring assistance to the THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, Library ol Rs. 50,000 for equipment SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE and Rs. 1 lakh for Surveys and air- (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDER): conditioning. A grant of Rs. 50,000 (a) No, Sir. However some damage has so far been released. 45 Written Answerg KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 46

Effect of Floods 00 Apienltiml me. In the flood affected States, Rabi Production operations are being intensified to recoup part of the flood damage. •14. SHRI M. V. CHANDRA- (c) A Working Group consisting of SHEKHARA MURTHY: the concerned departments at the SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: Centre and the States has been set up 10 prepare an outline of integrated WiU the Minister of AGRICULTURE project and plan of action for control­ AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: ling and mitigating the effects of floods in the Indo-Gangatic Basin. The ap­ (a) whether due to recent floods proach of the Working Group is to in­ much of land has become unfit for tegrate priority schemes of engineer­ agricultural produce for some years ing work downstream with the schemes in various States; of watershed management including afforestation and soil conservation in (b) whether this loss of agricultural the catchments of the flood-prone crops has affected our food position, rivers and tributaries on a selective and if so, to what exte'nt and what basis so that there is noticeable mitiga­ steps are being taken to meet the tion of flood disaster within a period of situation and also help the affected 5—7 years. The Working Group has States; and been working in close association with the State Governments. The Working (c) w hether Government have aP" Group would finalise its report shortly. pointed a committee to see the effects of floods and how to help and prevent the fioodg in the country and if so, the details thereof? Parity in Procurement prices for Paddy and Wheat THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA) : (a) According M5. SHRI K. MAYATHEVAR: SHRI VENUGOPAL GOUNDER: to the reports received so far from the States, due to recent ioods. about Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE !*2.35 lakhs hectares of cropped area AND IRRIGATION be pleased to have been adversely alTected. Twenty state: thousand acres have been sand-cast in West Bengal. The precise area in (a) whether Government are aware ether States that may have been ren­ of the growing force of opinion dered unfit for agriculture can only various State Governments for parity be known after the full assessment of in the procurement prices for paddy the flood damage is available. and wheat;

(b) The loss of agricultural crops (b) the reasons why the prices for has aflected the food position only in paddy continue to be pegged dowVi to the flood affected areas whereas for lower level despite the costs of pro­ the country as a whole, the overall food duction being more or less the same production and supply situation is for both the foodgrains; and quite good. Tho exact impact of this loss on the food position in the affect­ (c) the steps proposed by Govern­ ed areas cannot be readily assessed. ment to bring about parity? However, because of the comfortable bufler stock of foodgrains, sizable as­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN sistance has been given to the State THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE Ciovernments by way of gratuitous re­ AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU lief to flood victims and also for PRATAP SINGH) : (a) Government <^perating the Food for Work Program- are aware of the views of some States 2962 LS—4. 47 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 18T8 Written Answers 48 that there should be parity in the pro. servoirs. The operation of the reeer- curement prices of paddy and wheat. voirs is being carried out by the D.V.C. authorities in accordance with the di­ (b) and (c). The cost of production rections of the Reservoir Regulation for both, paddy and wheat, varies from Committee having representatives of State to State and within a State from the Central Government and Bihar region to region, and even from culti­ and West Bengal Governments there­ vator to cultivator. The procurement on. West Bengal Gk)vernment was prices are fixed, every year, after con- supplied information periodically re­ »dering the recommendations of the garding the operation of the D.V.C. Agricultural Prices Commission and the reservoirs. In absence of D.V.C. re­ views of the State Governments. The servoirs the damage could have been IwtKJurement price of paddy which was several fold. The reports, therefore, Rs. 56/- per quintal in 1969-70 has appear to draw incorrect conclusion. gradually increased to bo Rs 85/- per quintal in 1978-79 (i.e. an increase of The extensive damage this year is about 52 per cent) as against the pro­ largely due to unprecedented heavy curement price of wheat which has in­ widespread rainfall below the D.V.C. creased by 48 per cent only from and other areas. Rs. 76/- in 1969-70 to Rs. 112.50 in 1978-79. (c) Available storage capacity of Panchet and Maithon reservoirs is pro- Reported floods in West Bengal dne I>osed to be increased in accordance to unprecedented release of water by with the understanding recently reach­ D. V. C. Dams ed between the Governments of West Bengal and Bihar. Action has already been initiated for land acquisition. •16. SHRI SAUGATA ROY: Will This would help in additional flood the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND moderation thereby reducing flood IRRIGATION be pleased to state: damages further. (a) whether his attentio^n has b^n drawn to newspaper reports to the effect that a large part of the floods Incentives ^or New Sugar Factories in West Bengal were caused by un­ precedented release of water by the D.V.C. dams without timolv v\arnin.c; *11. SHRI K. A. RAJ AN: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IR­ (b) if so, whether the truth of these RIGATION be pleased to state: reports has been investigated; and (a) whether Government are con­ sidering a revised scheme of incentives (c) what step:^ the Government is for the new sugar factories; and contemplating^ to prevent such caused by the release of D.V.C. waters'; (b) if so, the detaiis thereof?

THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI THE M'NISTER OF STATE IN THE' MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE SURJjT SINGH BARNALA): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRATAP SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir. D.V.C. da-ms have been built with flood control as one of their objec­ (b) An inter-Ministerial Group con­ tives. These dams have been instru­ sisting of representatives of the Min­ m ental in moderating the incoming istry of Finance, Department of Food, floods for the purposes of flood con­ Planning Commission, Bureau of In­ trol. This year the incoming floods dustrial Costs and Prices, Industrial were moderated very considerably by Development Bank of India, Industdal judicious operation of th e D.V.C. re ­ Finance Corporation of India has been 4 9 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 50 constituted to review and revise the (c) what is the percentage of Plaai schcrTie for grant of incentives to new allocation left for education out of the sugar factories and expansion projects total budget expenditure? establised at high costs in the light of changed conditions. The report of the THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, Group is expected soon. SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER) : (a) No, Sir. Oiwfl wxrfwi (b) Does not arise. (c) For the Sixth Plan 1978—83, the percentage of allocation for £du« * 18. fewf, cation to the total public sector out­ lay of the Plan is 2.88.

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fTTTi^M ’T’T 51 wi *20. 3fto » ti : ?rh fiiwn, qciT?f !Pi iTtTT ^ % : (g ) arf? |f, a'T 5qrrK% % 'fi§ ^ I ? (^ ) m w w jfu^rr^- % irjrVa.ff ir fttWT, fw n f %^i) f^ff^fq-g-isr^r sivT 'R’^r *rf I ; ?Th: ^T'Tqr" Wi. 5 '^ ? I (^ ) irf? ^r, ^ {^ ) 5p< r ?r?r i JTT^fSTlf? if »fr ^ Illiteracy in Rural Areas jfr t ? ='J9. SHRIMATI AHILYA P. RANG- NEKAR; Will the iMiaisier ol EDU­ f«WT, ?WT5r 5P?nn»r CATION. SOCIAL WELFARE AND CUL'rUF\E be pleased to .'^latc: ) ; (^-) -tr. frff 1 (a) whether altentio’ii of Govern- ’ment has been drown to the survey (g ) : -i#i i carried out by Birla Institute of Scien­ tific Research which revealed that in most of the villages in the so-called Physical Survey of Unauthorised advanced States like Punjab, Maha­ Colonies in Delhi rashtra and West Bengal the rate of 1. SHRI S. G. MURUGAIYAN: Will illiteracy ranges from 69 per cent in the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ West Bengal to 48 per cent in Punjab, ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI­ even after 30 years of independence; TATION be pleased to state: (b) if so, the reaction of the Gov­ (a) whether physical survey and ernment thereto; and also economic survey of unauthoriaed 51 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 52

colonies in Laxmi Nagar, Shakarpur THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND and Pandav Nagar has been complet­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ ed; HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT) ; (a) The Government has (b) if so, w hether lay-out plan of taken a decision to regularise the resi­ these colonies is under preparation dential structures which came up in and when it will be ready; Delhi upto 30th June, 1977. The exten­ sion upto 30-6-77 does not apply to (c) whether it is a fact that tiew Commercial structures for which the construction in Laxmi Nagar in plot date remains 16-2-77, as per Govern­ 104-D of M. Block has started bkx^k- ment's orders of the same date. ing linking roads etc.; and (b) No, Sir. (d) if so, the details? (c) No unauthorised shop was found THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND to have been constructed in Amar HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ Colony near Kashmir Bhavan after the HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR material date. BAKHT) : (a) Yes, Sir. Nationalisation of Sugar Industry (b) Yes, Sir, the Delhi Development Authority has reported that these would be completed in six months. 3. SHRI AMAR SINGH RATHAWA: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE (c) and (d). No, Sir. Now new con­ AND IRRIGATION be pleased to struction has been raised On this plot. state: (a) whether there is any fresh pro­ posal under the co^nsideration of Gov­ Unauthorised Structures in Delhi ernment to nationalise Sugar Industry in the country to safeguard interests of 2. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN : farmers; and SHRI RAMACHANDRAN KA- (b) if so, the details thereof? DANNAPPALLI : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Will the Minister of WORKS AND THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU HABILITATION be pleased to state: PRATAP SINGH) : (a) and (b). There is no fresh proposal under the (a) whether it is a fact that the consideration of the Govermment to Union Government had taken a deci­ nationalise sugar industry. However, sion that unauthorised structures in order to ensure that sugar facto­ which came up in Delhi after March, ries start crushing operations in time 1977 will be pulled down; and make prompt payment of cane dues to the farmers an Ordinance pro­ (b) if so, whether unauthorised viding for the takeover of Manage­ structures were allowed by the Gov­ ment of such erring sugar factories ernment in the Lajpat Nagar area has been promulgated. It has not been near Kashmir Bhavan in Amar felt by the Government that Natio­ Colony; and nalisation of the sugar industry with­ out reference to the performance of (c) whether inspite of representa­ mdividual units, is either necessary tions made to the authorities concern­ or is a necessary commitment to en­ ed the unauthorised shops have not sure that the farmers’ interests are been pulled down by the Government? protected. ^ > Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) WHtten Answers 54

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f«l[ vrsmn) : ( t ) ^ (*r). 6. SHRT GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : Will the Minister of EDUCATION, 1 9 7 8 -7 9 % SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE f5TT^’»r JfT ^ r % be pleased to state: TTfST 12 6 . e 6 (a) whether the Ministry consHtut- 5RT? ^ ’Tzr I I f?) ^ ed a Working Group to sturly the problems and presetvation of tribal km ^ culture; f ir srrf scrtTisri'’:^ ^r?r % ^ (b) if so, the names of the tribal ?:riiTT 226.95 sTTTf ^qir conununities taken for the study; ?Tftr>T JTTiRr WT^5:?t ^"r ^ (c) recommendation made by the ^ »T 42.43 ^T f v/orking group for iha preservation of 5T? f ^ ' J r % f?7(r I I tribal culture; and gr? ^ 'W i % (d) steps taken lo implement the rrsjii ^ JTT5RT?ff % ?T?n

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, % ? r f t )- SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE tft JrrftTH % «TlTn gTTTT TT^JT (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- ’sr^r^irrT | i DER) : (a) to (d). An Advisory Com­ mittee for the preservation and pro­ 1954 *r ^-!Ter>r »f>5RT motion of Tribal and Folk Arts in the country has been set up under the % fipij 3Tf?r % ?nrT wsr ?n> ^ Chairmanship of Education Minister, Jr «ri: 633 which may make recommendations in tVe matter. ^ ’TlTr f^ ’TT 5TT t 61 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 62

Appolntiiients Confirmations of Foodfrrains damafed In various StatM S.€s./S.Ts. in Regional Stationery due to Floods Depots 10. SHRI JANARDHANA POO- 8. SHRI A. MURUGESAN : Will the JARY: Will the Minister of AGRI­ Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ pleased to state the quantity of food- TION be pleased to state: grains damaged in the various States, (a) v/hether the orders issued by State-wise, due to the recent floods in Department of Personnel with regard the country? to appointments and confirmations in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the case of Scheduled Castes and MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND Tribes Employees are not being imple­ IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA. mented in Regional Stationery De­ TAP SINGH) : The State-wise quan­ pots in India, especially iii Madras De^ tity of foodgrains affected due to re­ pot and Rosters not maintained; cent floods in the country is given be­ (b) if so, why, and the details low : thereof Depot-wise; and (Figures in tonnes) (c) if implemented the cadre-wise and Depot-wise details from the date 1. West Bengal 1,00,901 of issue of these orders? 2. Bihar 196 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 3. Haryana 162 HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR 4. Uttar Pradesh 368 BAKHT): (a) to (c). The informa­ tion is being collected and will be laid Total On the Table of the Sabha. 1.01,627

The salvaging of affected stocks is in Constructional help by HUDCO progress and the actual quantity da­ maged or rendered unfit for human 9. SHRI D. AMAT : Will the Minis­ consumption, will be known when the ter of WORKS AND HOUSING AND salvaging of all the affected stocks is SUPPLY AND REHABILITATION be completed. pleased to state: (a) whether HUDCO (Housing and Residential Pilot for Landless Urbavi Development Corporation) is helping those who have plots in ap­ 11. SHRI BHAGAT RAM: Will the proved colonies for construction; Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ (b) if so, the nature of help provid­ TION be pleased to state: ed by HUDCO; and (a) the total number of residential (c) the number of persons who re­ plots allotted to the landless before, ceived help from this Organisation during and after emergency; during the year 1978? (b) the total number of people who got actual possession of these plots; THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND ^TOIISING AND SXJPPLY AND RE­ (c) what is the total number of HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR people who did not have their own BAKHT): (a) No, Sir. HUDCO does residential sites in each State; and not provide loans to individuals. (d) what is the programme for (b) and (c). Do not arise. these homeless? 63 'Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 \ Written Answers 64 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND mation furnished by the Delhi Muni­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- cipal Corporation, who are prim arily HAjaiLITATION (SHRJ SIKANDAK concerned with the primary education BAKHT) : (a) The total number of in Delhi, no primary school has so far houscKSites (including un-developed been started in Pitampura Residen­ sites) allotted to the rural landless tial Sceme. A new primary school in before, during and after emergency is Shalimar Bagh Residential Scheme under : — has, however, been started by them* from October 1978. Before emergency : 32,42,406 Dirring emergency : 38,52,257 The Delhi Administration have , A fter emergency: 3,69,205 stated that 28 sites for Hr. Sec. Schools in Pitampura and 12 sites for Hr. Sec. (b> 50,23,278 rural landless got phy- Schools in Shalimar Bagh residential sicfiJ' froseession of the house-sites al­ schemes has been provided. A Gov­ lotted to them. ernment Co-educational School has (c) 41.50,792 eligible landless frmi- also been opened in Pitampura during lies have not yet been allotted house- 1978-79. sites in rural areas. (d) The scheme for provision of (b) The Delhi Administration have house-sites, free of cost, to the rural made a request to D.D.A. for allot­ landless workers is in the State Sec­ ment of Hr. Sec. School sites in other tor. The draft Five Year Plan for parts of Pitampura Residential Scheme 1978—83 has made a provision of and Shalimar Residential Scheme. Rs. 500 crores for giving financial as­ New- Government Schools will be open­ sistance for acquisition of plots and ed after sites are made available by construction of houses in rural areas the D.D.A. according to the actual under the scheme. needs of the colonies.

School Facilities in Pitampura and Shalimar Bagh, Delhi Money for Flood Relief and Flood 12. SHE PRADYUMNA BAL : Will Control the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleas­ ed to state: 13. SHRI KISHORE LAL: Will the (a) the number of primary, middle Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IR­ and higher secondary schools provid­ RIGATION be pleased to state: ed in the (i) Pitampura Residential Scheme and (ii) Shalimar Bagh Resi­ (a) how much money has been dential Scheme of the Delhi Develop­ ment Authority; and made available to various State Gov­ ernments for flood relief and how (b) what are the proposals under much for flood control; consid Ejration for providing school facilities in Pitampura and Shalimar (b) whether Central Grovemment Residential Schemes in Delhi? have ensured that the money suppos­ ed to be spent for flood control in the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE current year would be utilised; MINISTRY OF EDUCATION. SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (SHRI- (c) whether Government of India MATI RENUKA DEVi BARAKA- have proposal for desilting the rivers TAKI) : (ii) According to the infor­ which are every year in spate; and 65 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 66

. (d) if 90, how much mwiey the llltffAl ParklAg of Public Veliicl6f^ Government p to p o st to spend and in \nhM Hh$A Ptttel m rn at, New DcAi which areas? 14. SHRI R. P. DAS: SHRI BHAGAT RAM: THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE SHRI DINEN BHATTA- AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT CHARYA: SINGH BARNALA); (a) The formula­ tion and implementation of flood con­ Will the Minister of WORKS AND trol schemes is carried out by the HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ State Governments and the flood con­ HABILITATION be pleased to state: trol sector is financed through State Plan funds. However, the Government (a) whether attention of Govern­ cf India provides assistance to various ment has been drawn to the fact that a number of two-wheeler scooters and States in the form of block loans and grants for the States’ plan proposals. motor-cycles are parked illegally The total expenditure incurred in the within the corridors of Vithalbhai flood control sector by various State Patel House, New Delhi and make Governments and the Union Territo­ horrible sound in the night and thus ries from 1954 to March. 1978 is create unbearable nuisance to the Rs. 633 crores. The expenditure on residents which adversely tortures the heart patients and patients of hyper­ relief from the 1st Five Year Plan to tension; and the end of the 4th Five Year Plan pro­ vided as Central assistance through (b) if so, w hat action has been taken loans and grants totals to Rs. 1194.45 against these activities? crore?. During the 5th Plan, no Cen- tral grant was normally made avail­ THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND able to meet the expenditure arising HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ out of natural calamities except the HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR margin money. totalling to Rs. 50.71 BAKHT): (a) Yes, Sir. ciores allocated to the States annually. (b) The matter was discussed in A.drntional expenditure requirements the House Committee Rajya Sabha oa were pro\ided as advance plan assis­ 7th August, 1978 who desired that pro- tance. \:er alternative parking place should be provided for these vehicles. Draw­ The provision under the flood control ings and estimate for construction of i-ector for 1978-79 is Rs. 126 crores for Scooter/Cycle parking shed are under the whole country. preparation. (b) the responsibility for implemen­ Misuse Of Plots reserved for School tation of Hood control schemes rests Building in New Delhi with the State Governments. During plan discussions, the State Govern­ 15. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will the ments furnish details regarding the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING expenditure incurred on flood control AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ schemes and the position is reviewed TION be pleased to refer to the reply accordingly. given to Unstarred Question No. 2067 dated 31st July, 1978 regarding misuse (c) and (d) Desilting of rivers as a of the plots reserved for School Build­ measure of flood control is not con­ ing in Shantiniketan Society of the sidered feasible and economically justi­ Government Servants Co-operative fiable. However, for the limited pur­ House Building Society Ltd, New poses of preventing bank erosion and Delhi and state: for channel improvements, dredging (a) whether the information called Operations have been taken up on the for has since been collected; it so, Brahmaputra on an experimental whether it would now be laid on the- Table; «7 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 68

(b) whether D.DA. is allotting a Electrification til RehaUlitation Camp plot of land for school building to In Mahararfitra Salesian Sisters Society in Northern India in Vasant Vihar in preference 16. SHRI RAJE VISHESHVAR RAO: to the plot already earmarked for Will the Minister of WORKS AND school; HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ (c) if so, the reasons therefor; HABILITATION be pleased to state: (d) whether the Management of the (a) whether the Government are Society has protested against this intending to supply electricity to all allotment in Vasant Vihar; and the Rehabilitation camps in Maha­ rashtra on a War footing; (e) the difficulties which lie in the (b) if so, how long would it take way of D.D.A, allotting the Shanti- to complete the electrification of all niketan plot in question and what camps in the State of Maharashtra; action the D.D.A, propose to take in and the matter? (c) whether Government feel that it is the only way to keep the refugees THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND in their camps? HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND BAKHT): (a) No, Sir. HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR (b) and (c) It was decided to allot a BAKHT): (a) There are no rehabilta- plot of land to the Society in Vasant tion camps in Maharashtra and as Vihar where sufficient school sites are such the question of supply of electri­ available. The DDA had initially city to all camps does not arise. contemplated allotting a plot of land measuring 2.5 acres for Nursery-cum- (b) and (c). Do not arise. Primary School in Shanti Niketan to the Salesian Sisters Society of Nor­ thern India. Because of several for­ malities involved, allotment could not ]>e made. In Shanti Niketan, this plot 1 7. of land is the only site available for opening of a Primary’ School and hence it has been reserved for M.C.D. Since fiF: the case for allotment of land to the Salesian Sisters Society in Northern (^) q-? 197 8-^79 it tfr 'TTt- India had been pending since long, it jfTiTnV^Ti ^ UnVlf?T was decided to allot a plot of land to the Society in Vasant Vihar. ^

(d) The Management of the Society (^) % ni^ ^ I had been asked for their views regard­ ing aUotment of the plot in Vasant Vihar. I; (e) Since it is the only Primary (n) ^ 5Fif g-nvrfin- School site in Shanti Niketan, it has ^ t ^ I ^ to be reserved for the M.C.D. who re ­ tain the prior right to the plot. The 1978 ) it M.C.D. is again being asked to exer­ ^ sTnvrftr ^ i'\ ^ cise their option for taking over this plot. I ? 69 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 70

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(^r) fTemoUtlou of Stnictares built on me plot allotted to Jaia Happy fiU^hool, B ha^t Sin^h. Mar?. New Delhi 18. SHRl AHMAD M. PATEL; Will the Minister oi AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: 19. SHRl DALPAT SINGH PAR- ASTE; Will the Minister of WORKS a n d h o u s in g a n d SUPPLY AND (a) whether Government of Maha­ REHABILITATION, be pleased to rashtra have sent any scheme for sta le : the development of Melghat Tiger Re­ serve in Amravati District; (a) the steps so far taken in getting the built-up structures vacated and demolished from the area allotted to (b) if so, the details thereof; Jain Happy School, Bhagat Singh Marg, New Delhi; and

(c) the action taken by the Gov­ (b) when the Jain Happy School is ernment thereon; and likely to be informed of the proposed allotm ent?

(d) the steps taken to rehabilitate THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND the families which are residing there? HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT); (a) and (b). Depreciated \ alue of the existing structures THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE has been worked out. But they AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT are at present occupied. Allot­ SINGH BARNALA): (a) to (c). No, ment of the site depends on the vaca­ Sir. However Project Tiger, a Cen­ tion of the existing structures; vaca­ tral Sector Scheme is already being im­ tion takes time, it is, therefore, not plemented in Melghat Tiger Reserve possible to indicate the time by which in Amravati District since 1973-74. On the allotment will be made and pos­ the basis of Annual Plan of operation session given. for the year 1978-79 received from the State Government, a sum of Rs. 16.00 lakhs has been approved, out of which Asian Games 1982 an amount of Rs. 14.00 iakhs will be released to the State Go\rrnment dur­ 20. SilRl R. K MHALGI: Will, the ing the current financial year and Minislor f)l EDUCATION, SOCIAL Rs. 2.00 lakhs will be met by the State WELFARK AND CULTURE be ii>leas- Government from the unspent balance. c(\ tf) rufcr to the reply given to Stprrcd Ou('slion No. 10 on the 24th 1I)7R roqarrling Kj.i)arlcii and (d) As per the guidelines oI the* Pro- ,- ta te : jert no ^^razing ol \illa^e cattle is permitted in the core area of the Re­ (a) what cfTorts the Government of serves. In order to overcome this India or the concerned institutions probicm^ six villages adjoining the have made so far to have the Asian core ”oa of Melghat Tiger Reserve are Games 1982 be held in India; and propo>od to be shifted. While shift­ with what results; and ing the villages due attention is paid th:,t they get proper alternative suitable (b) whether they have chalked otit cultivable lands and other re q u ire d any phased programme for the efforts amenities and facilities. A sum of to include ‘Kabaddi’ as a ‘Demonstra­ Rs. 3.00 lakhs has been provided dur­ tion Game’ in Asian Games 1982; if ing the current financial year for this so, the details thereof and the pro­ purpose gress made so far? 73 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 74

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, .Tnr^"r?r K |-fw r /a=5^-< SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDER): (Tfjj jf 5rr (a> and v:r«^Tfci ^'r Games Federation for the inclusion of Kabaddi as a “Demonstration Game’’ fw fn tfrn fffrsr « f r «ff i in the 1982 Games. 1977-78 Jr MW it ^ it fi' *:f «ff < 1 9 7 8 -7 9 k. ? M n STl^TfiT^ n rTr 5,=a^' f r ^ ff fr »rf i fFreri 21. w rrm srrw : sfqr fn?3rrfn7, f^wfr 75TT??n 51TT 'Tisrf*i^ fifWn, fliTRl ^ 5TI?ff % ^'T JTT ^ 5JTr ^ -!TrT VviT^ ^'r % : 5T7n f t ^5=TT I

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*larm it r m wsft (-I) zjff r j . Ti ^iTf't'ffT^ "SH W t ) : ( i;) ;prv ?TTr) JTf? ^r. ?rr % fvf;^?s{T -..-c-fiia- inf^cjT jfTv fiFd^r Tr?’n ?r I ^rr ?rT.Ti ^ vF:;r'.r ir^iq 3Tr? JTfr ^ ’a’T ^Tr I ? ^■rr ?^vi- ?i ^7ici> I I f!Wf*tq 500 . MIG flats in Katwaria Sarai in Decem­ (ii) «rrffTT ^'T H ff«z: ber 76/January 1977. However, 50 flats were allotted to the public by draw of fT «T^iRnn 200 lots in September 1976. In addition, 11 (iii) *nr jjT fT *nr flats were kept reserved for evictees cind 3 for DDA’s slafT. 1800 applications *T^:TW 250 were received for allotment of flats in (iv ) ®c^-T/?rV'rfert ^'f Katwaria Sarai. Against 294 flats in Mayapuri, 375 had opted for this 1 00 scheme and allotment to 258 persons was made by draw of lots on 4th *r-T7^i 5T»fftr January 1977. The remaining flats I 5T!Tr ^ vr? f® were earmarked for reserved cate­ gories. ^ TT??T firq j,*r^ ^'r | i fK»r*T k ^n? k sT^TifzifT Since applications for Katwaria Sarai and Mayapuri were invited «rTT ^ f?iTT 5zrr^ separately, no inter se preference was 2000 ij*^'jfr, M ayapuri: 105 ^jfr ?tV wj^ Jmif-.rr % f?fiT srrif JT ^ 500 T^f 5(ftTJT House Tax from D.D.A. built Colonies TTftr m 3 JT^R fiT t a n 24. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: T»r ?>, ^nT WfT I ^‘T 12 Trrfv^ Will the Minister of WORKS AND f^fPRfi q ^7^1T I HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION be pleased to state: (a) whether it is a fact that the allottees of various DDA colonies DDA Flats sold in Katwaria Sarai and have been asked to pay house tax, Mayapiiri New Delhi though the areas have not been taken over by the Delhi Municipal 23. SHRI T. S. NEGI: WiU the Corporation and none of civic faci­ Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING lities like scavenging, supply of AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ water, horticulture etc. is provided TION be pleased to state: by the Corporation; (a) th%' number of MIG flats sold (b) whether it is also a fact that by DDA in December 76/January 77 facilities bcmg provided by DDA 77 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 7 ^ '

have already been charged for in the and priorities for the Sixth Five Year disposal cost of these flats and these Plan has suggested that in view of , flats are to be maintained by DDA the importance of cultural develop-^ for a certain period as per the break­ ment in the process of national pro- " up given against their disposal cost; gress, the Plan allocations for cultural and development in the Sixth Plan should commensurate with the programmes (c) if so, the steps proposed to be of viiriniis organisations and that taken to relieve the allottees of these funds ior the purpose should not be colonies of this taxation? confined to the provisions made speci­ fically for culture, but should also be THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND reflected in other related sectoral HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ allocations. HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT) : (a) Yes, Sir as all built A tentative allocation of rupees fifty up properties attract taxation by the crores for the Sixth Plan period has MCD, irrespective of the fact whether been indicated by the Planning Com­ the services have been provided by mission as against the amount of the MCD or not. rupees thirty seven crores provided (b) Some amount is added in the for Art and Culture in the Fifth Plan. cost^ for day-to-day maintenance of As a follow-up of the recommenda­ the flats, till they are handed over to tions of the Working Group on Art the MCD. and Culture, four Functional Groups have been set up for creating a link­ However, the DDA has recently age between the Department of Cul­ decided to include the cost of main­ ture on the one hand and the Depart­ tenance services in the disposal cost ments dealing with tribal development, on a percentage basis. rural development, communications and tourism on the other. (c) Does not arise in view of the position explained in Oa) above. Prime Minister's Letter on Working Group on Art and Culture Afforestation

25. SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: Will the Minister of EDUCATION^ 26. SHRI NATVARLAL B. PAR- SOCIAL, WELFARE AND CULTURE MAR: Will the Minister of AGRI­ be pleased to state; CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state; (a) whether a Working Group constituted to advise Government (a) whether the Prime Minister had for development of Art and Culture addressed a letter to State Chief have recommended for provision of Ministers urging them to work out inputs for its development during concrete programmes for afforestai- the 6th Plan period; tion and over-all measures to protect the country’s ecological endowment; (b) if so. kinds of inputs recom­ mended tl:^rein; and (b) if so, the details thereof; (c) steps proposed to be taken to (c) whether any steps have been provide it? taken to allot more funds to the States on this subject; and THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (d) steps suggested to make the (BR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDER): annual Vanmahotsava programmes (a) to (c). The Working Group on Art meaningful and more effective in­ and Culture set up by the Department volving participation of the ordinary of Culture to advise on the approach man? 2962 L& -5 79 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20. 1978 Written Answers So

THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ project to undertake reforestation or TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRl plantation, keeping in mind the fact SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) Yes, that good productive lands are Sir. equally necessary to meet the needs of wood for domestic and industrial (b) A letter has been addressed to uses. In addition, social forestry all the States containing the following programmes should be intensified on points: community and other lands, as well Any proposal involving de­ as lor rehabilitating degraded forest forestation of 10 ha. and above areas if any, in the areas where should give due consideration to the diversion of forest lands may take consequent loss ot production of place. forest raw materials from dwindling (5> The State should particularly resources, to the depletion or dis­ examine if any rare ecotypes having appearance of wildlife habitats, as uncommon oommOnities or species well as to long term effects on the and forming irreplaceable gene pools environment and especially on the are to be deforested as a result of stability of catchments^ erosion, sil- the project. Every attempt should tation, etc. A full discussion on V)e made to find alternatives to these items should form part of any preserve such ecotypes. In cases of project proposal. doubt the Forest Research Institute and. if necessary, the Botanical (2) All possible alternatives with Survey of India and the Zoological costs should be fully discussed in Surv'ey of India, should be involved the project reports to enable objec­ before the detailed planning for a tive assessment and decision in the project starts. interest of realising optimum bene­ fits from the land and water re­ (6) With regard to settlement of source# without entailing sacrifice persons displaced from project areas of large and in certain cases, unique it is equally necessary to see whe­ forest areas of great biological signi­ ther they could be settled elsewhere ficance in critical catchments which by acquiring available lands without may arise as a result of, say. sub­ making further inroads into forest­ mergence under the reservoirs, set­ ed areas. ting up of agricultural farms, settle­ ment of persons evicted from pro­ (7) All cases of deforestation ject areas^ etc. should be considered against the premise that adequate land in any (3) When an alternative involving State should be kept under forests diversion of forest areas smaller in for meeting the requirement of in­ extent and value is possible, even at dustrial wood, local timber and a higher initial cost, a proper cost- fuel wood. benefiit analysis should be made after taking into consideration the (8) Every national park and sanc­ direct and indirect benefits from tuary or area inhabited by threaten­ the forests and wildlife habitats^ and ed species should have an adequate projects even with higher total and well-managed surround. At­ costs should normally be approved. tempts should be made to see that no project interferes with such (4) If any forest area is to be parks, sanctuaries, areas and sur­ deforested, due to any project al­ rounds. ready under way or to be newly taken up, suitable areas should be (9/ Wherever big projects involv­ identified and acquired else-where ing large areas are involved, the to coiTipcnsate for the loss, and all Chief Conservator of Forests should necessary funds providied In the invariably be consulted and the 8 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 82

Inspector General of Forests always kept informed. In cases where the ftw t fir5wfiRmm Chief Conservator of Forests con­ siders the deforestation inadvisable he may bring the matter to the notice of the Inspector General of Forests so that, in case it is feit that the inlorvention of the Central Govern­ ment is needed, it should be possible 27. 5R? irnw : wjtt fswn, ior the Inspector General of Forests to draw the attention of the Ministry ¥'r ^q-T % : of Agriculture towards the dimen­ sions of the proposed damage. There­ after the matter can be taken up and pursued with the State Governments. f w r % (c) Steps have been taken to allot % f?T(T (sfrTr^r ts ^ 'f more funds to the States under Cen­ trally Sponsored Schemes such as Social Forestry including mixed plan­ q-fcTr I tation in panchayat lands and waste­ lands and reforestation of degraded foicst. During 5th Plan the outlay if 5!T*tTT ^ I ; under the above two schemes was 2506.69 lakhs. Besides that under the (?j) Integrated Soil & Water Conservation in the Himalayan Region an outlay of Rs. 286 lakhs was earmarked. Attempts t s f f i ^ if have been made to increase the allot­ ment under the Centrally sponsored sTfTT: ^ ?fiT schemes particularly under Social Fore­ stry and the Integrated Soil & Water Conservation in Himalayan Region during the medium term Plan (1978— 8:^). The Working Group on Forests fsren, have suggested in their Final Report ( llo ^ ^ J for an allocation of Rs. 11,400 lakhs fcT9-4v?ri5PT 51’<1 *rf ?;=5r5n % under Social Forestry and RvS. 2,000 lakhs under the schemes ‘Integrated f^rerr Soil & Water Conservation in Hima­ ^ 5 ^ !JTzfTf3rcT ^Tn % layan Region’. Besides these Centi‘ally sponsored schemes, the States have if JTf | ^rra’iT”!- also schemes under State Sectors to rTirr ^ iiHorest more areas.

(d) The main cause of failure used ?ir^ I to be lack of protection. Hence State Governments are now encouraging people to plant trees in their private ( g ) lands/compounds so that these could % 66, f?nN> 2 7 - 4 - be looked after more effectively. Be­ 1963 fRT sides, some States have allowed the individual the right of ownership over vrrfft % «rr%ifr fsrinff the plants planted by them along M fm lf) Jf sjrWrr Toad-sides or in community lands to «nsuref better survival. «3 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 8+

by the Central Government and it so, the reasons thereof; f*m5TT | , ^ ir ft«rf5T whether the step ha& adverse­ I ft: ?rrHTTW5n»T (b) ly’ affected the cane cultivation in­ creasing the crises of sugar indus­ J rftr^ T f%*r ^Ji?,- try; and qsp k- (c) whether the Government pro­ JT^TT spr # 5 ^ ^'T fnfflfTn f^fsT f »T- pose to reconsider the step and res­ tore the rate of the last year? ^r*snr KT5I f«Tn ^»IT I THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND PikisUn to retam Indian Wheat Seed IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- TAP SINGH): (a) No, Sir. The rate 28. SHRI OM PRAKASH TYAGI: of Rs. 12.5 per quintal refers to the Wm the Minister of AGRICULTURE State advised price which was operat­ AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: ing last year in Bihar, whereas the statutory minimum cane price fixed by (a) whether Pakistan has decided the Government last year was Rs.8.50 to return the Indian wheat seed on per quintal for a recovery of 8.5 per the ground that it is sub-standard; cent. This price has, in fact, been in­ and creased this year to Rs. 10.00 per quin­ tal for a recovery of 8.5 per cent. Over (b) the reaction of Government to and above this, 50 per cent of the ex­ this allegation of Pakistan? cess realization is also payable by the factories under clause 5(a) of the Sugarcane (Control) Order to the THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- grower. TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA): (a) (b) and (c). The present cane price and (b). The National Seeds Corpora­ level has been evolved to ensure that tion had supplied 5270 tonnes of certi­ while the cultivator would be getting fied wheat seed to Pakistan. A part a reasonable price for his cane, it will of this consignment was found to be also be within the capacity of the unacceptable by that country on ac­ sugarcane mills to pay off the cane count of its being considered sub­ due immediately. This measure by it­ standards by that country. As a re­ self should not adversely affect either sult thereof they have returned about the cane cultivation or the sugar in­ 1000 tonnes of the seed. The balance dustry. On the contrary it should has been found acceptable. It was bring about a better balance between decided to accept the seed found un­ the supply and demand for sugarcane. acceptable to Pakistan, SntleJ-Yamuna Link in Punjab)

Decrease in Suirarcanc Price Bihar 30. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH MALIK: 29. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the M in­ DR. SAROJINI MAHISHI: ister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRI­ GATION be pleased to state: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to (a) whether the price of sugarcane state: has been decreased from the last year rute of Rs. 12.5 per quintal to (a) whether it is a fact that Gov­ Bs. 10 p«r quintal this year in Bihar ernment of IndiQ gave an award in 83 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Wntten Answers 86

the year 1976 about the disrtribu- against the decision of the Central tion of Ravi-Beas surplus water and Government given in March, 1976 and as per th a t aw ard Haryana got 3.5 pressed for an increased allocation to MA.F as its share though Haryana is Punjab. Haryana on the other hand entitled to a larger share; requested that the issue may not be reopened. Meetings have been held (b) whether it is also a fact that at official levels as well as Ministers' accordingly, Government of Haryana level to bring out an understanding. is trying hard to the construction Efforts are presently being made to of Sutlej-Yamuna link in Punjab resolve the differences with the assist­ area; ance of the Prime Minister.

(c) whether Government of Pun­ jab is finding one excuse or the Foodgrains supplied under Food for other to delay the construction of Work Scheme Sutlej-Yamuna link in Punjab por­ 31. SHRI AINTHU SAHOO; Will tion; the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state,: (d) wh^her Government of Hary­ ana has approached the Central (a) the estimated requirements for Government to press the Government 1978-79 of wheat and rice submitted of Punjab for construction of Sutlej- by different States to the Central Gov­ Yamuna link in Punjab area; and ernment on “Food for work” schemes and the quantity released to different (e) if so, whether any role has States upto-date; and ^;ince been played by Central Gov- c?*nment for the solution of this dis­ (b) whether there was any delay pute and if so, the details thereof? in releasing the stock and the average time it takes to release the stock of foodgrains by the Central Govern­ ment to the State Governments? THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (S^HRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) The THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE two successor States, namely Punjab MINISTT^Y OF AGRICULTURE AND and Haryana could not mutually ar­ IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- rive at an agreement regarding shar­ TAP SINGH): (a) Regarding wheat, ing of the surplus waters becoming a statement is attached. The devision available as a result of the Beas Pro­ to supply rice upto 50 per cent of the ject. Hence the Central Government total foodgrains made available under gave decision regarding the same the programme has been taken only under the provisions of the Punjab recently. No definite requirements for Reorganisation Act, 1966 in March, rice have, therefore, been received so 1976. Haryana has been allocated 3.5 far. million acre feet based on the avail­ ability of data covering the period (b) Releases of foodgrains under 1921 to 1946. the scheme are made on the basis of the utilisation reports received from (b) to (e). Haryana has formulated the State Governments. Indents from a Project Report envisaging Sutlej- State Governments are processed Vamiuia Link passing through Punjab promptly and no cases of any delays territory and has approached the Cen­ take place as such unless the essential tral Government for assistance for ob­ information, e.g., reports on utilisation taining concurrence of the Punjab of foodgrains released by Government Government. Punjab represented of India earlier etc. are wanting. t j 'Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, l978 Written Answers

Stmtement

Quantities of foodgraini allocated and released

(As on lo-i 1-1978)

Quantities Quantities of food- of grainsrclcahcd State foodgrains during the year allocated during 1978-79

(Metric (Mcirin tonnes) lonnej)

i977 -7« 1978-79

I . Andhra Pradesh 55,000 26,000

2. Assam .

3. Bihar . 2,00,000 1,25,000

4. Gujarat • 50,000 15,000

5. Harv-ana • 14,000 2000 6. Himachal Prade'^h 3,000

7. Karnataka 50,000 1,000 15,000

8. Kerala . 50,000 10,000

9. Madhya Pradr<;h • 1,25,000 56,000

10. Maharashtra 71,000 4:,o ...

1 1 . Oris<;a . 2,00,000 1,30/M 0

12. Punjab . 63,000 16,000

13. Rajasthan . 1,28,000 •• 45,000

14. "T'ripura 10,000 4,000

15. Uttar Pradtsh . 400 45,000

16. West Betigal • • 2,05,000 1,00,000

17. Mizoram ...... 1,200 •• 1,200 13,36,20.0 l*8r() 5.f < .n (/

%5jftu m m , WRifev if j f 1 9 7 7 -7 8 if 7^ f f 2 1 ,0 0 0 1 ^ ? T w - * n f ^ 1 . 70 ^«Tir «rr, q r 32. Tta HWf JWR * eft =?rrTt f t *rf ?r«TqT ^ sr^'sr % ^ ? t *rf I ; ?ftT f«TT :

( ^ ) WT JT? I ft? SFJTfe^ ( ^ ) ^'t ^SrTWtift TTJT^ ff«r?r *but Jr TtfTJft % ^ »if I 89 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 90

rigation works; flood protection, drain­ age and anti-water-logging works; soil 5it5f fTTT'n' t ? and water conservation and afforesta­ tion works including social forestry on Government and Community lands; («T>gnfhT maintenance and construction of roads; ) : {w.) 3fr I construction of intermediate and main drains and field channels; school 197 7 -7 8 it TTEf^TC\ f?«Ta VI31,- if 5 52t> ^.T buildings and community centres etc. in the rural areas. I;, T^Zi 2 2 .6 6 (b) The scope of the scheme has t; I n ^'i been enlarged so as to cover the on­ =5fiTr fVT ^(1''' n f ( h '^ |VT I I going plans and on-plan works, new items of capital works and works re­ (?^) STlJn ?,ff^;;nT I lating to flood control etc. The State Governments can also entrust the exe­ Conditions for Central Aid under cution of works to the voluntary agen­ cies of repute and standing. Rice has Food for Work Scheme also been introduced into the scheme and State Governments are eligible to 33. SHRI K. A. RAJU: receive a quantity upto 50 per cent of SHRI A. MURUGESAN: the total foodgrains made available under the programme in the form of Will tiic Minister of AGRICUL­ rice. 1 TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased state; Advice to State Governments to Desist (a) the conditions under which from Raising Sug:arcane Prices assistance under ‘Food for Work’ 34. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR N. PATIL: programme is given to the States; and Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE (b) the plans and programmes for AND IRRIGATION be pleased to intensifying such assistance on a state: larger scale? (a) whether it is a fact that the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Ministry has advised the StatQ Gov­ MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND ernments to desist from raising in IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- an ad hoc manner the sugarcane TAP SINGH): (a) Under the Food for prices in 1978-79; Work Programme the foodgrains are (b) if so, details of the communi­ supplied to the State Governments for cation issued to the State Governments payment of wages in part or full to in this regard; the labour engaged on productive works which result in creation of dur­ (c) what is the reaction of the able community assets in the rural State Governments State-wise, to the communication issued by him; and areas and strengthen the rural infra­ structure. The State Governments (d) what steps are being taken/ have to show additionality over and envisaged to protect the interest ol above its budget provision equivalent cane-growers particularly ensuring to the total value of foodgrains receiv­ them remunerative prices for sugar­ ed computed at Rs. 105 per quintal for cane? w heat and Rs. 115 and Rs. 130 per quintal for coarse and fine varieties of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE rice respectively. A variety of works MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND can be taken up under the scheme IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- such as major, medium and minor ir­ TAP SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 9 1 nK 92 Xb) The, Cerxtral Government have mulgated on 9-11-78 enabling the 111 their communication to Central Government to take over the ^l^^e \Aief that consequent on management of any factories who i^ttrioval of cd^itrols the Govern- leave arrears beyond stipulated levaL ^J&eni of Ihdia had also simultaneously janhOiirtced a Iiber‘^1 increase in the Result of Decontrol of Sugar statutory cane price payable for the I' iseasoii 1^78-79 from Rs. 8.50 to Rs. 10 35. SHRI C. N. VISVANATHAN: per (juintal linked to a recovery of SHRI RAM SEWAK HAZARI: i.5 per cent. For an average reco­ SHRIMATI PARVATHI very of 10 per cent for the industry KRISHNAN: > ^ whole this will ensure an average Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ price of about Rs. 11.75 per quintal. TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased /; addition, there is also statutory to state: sharing of 50 per <‘ent of excess reali- ,tsat?ons. In the qpioion of Central (a) whether the policy of decontrol Government this price level is both of sugar has achieved the purpose of remunerative and reasonable to all a fair price to the cultivator, and a concerned. It was pointed out that as reasonable price to the consimier; prices of sugar will have to be regu­ (b) whether it is a fact that sugar lated by normal laws of supply and industry is incurring losses despite demand, .and in the wake of high level decontrol measures; and . of production the sugar factories could vnot be ^acpected to pay a cane price (c) the steps proposed by Gov­ unrelated to recovery; that it would ernment to ensure uninterrupted pro­ also be a self defeating exercise in the duction of sugar and reasonable satis­ i^ion^ TUB to ilisturb the delicate bal­ faction of needs of cultivator and ance it)irough lad-rhoc higher levels of consumer? cane price. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE t‘ ^garcane has been raised from Rs. pointing out the prbblto created by 8.50 to R’s. 10 per quintal for the cur­ Paying, fj^ther high pri- rent 1978-79 sugar season. . , 9 ^ , ^ . by Md,. large agreed that to the maximum extei^t. possible we ^b) A^ over 27 lakh tonnes of stocks, should allow the market forces to ope- out ;of, the production of 65 lakh ton- IThif -Chief Mftiister o* Madhya in l()77-,78 ^ugar season, are still ’'PrSdeSh has «feured that

•o f the management of sugar factories In addition, special programmes which do not start crushing operations like (i) Minikit programme of Rice in time and/or which fail to make which helps ^farmers select suitable prompt payment of sugar cane dues varieties for different situations; to the farmers. (ii) Community Nurseries Pro­ gramme of Rice which helps formers to advance the sowing time and thus increase the productivity; (iii) Impact of Green Revolution on Rice Demonstrations with Improved Agri­ Growing Areas cultural Implements to encourage line sowing of paddy in direct seeded areas of Assam, Bihar, West Bengal, 36. SHRI K. T. KOSALRAM: Will Orissa, Madhya Pradesh and Eastern the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND U.P.; (iv) Fertilizer Promotion IRRIGATION be pleased to state: Campaign in selected Districts to en­ courage adequate and balanced use (a) whether the impact of “Green of fertilisers; (v) Farmers^ Training revolution” has been felt more in the •and Education for the quick transfer wheat growing areas then in the of improved rice production techno­ rice growing areas; and logy 1 etc., have ben undertaken. Besides, research efforts have inten­ (b) if so, steps being considered by sified to evolve varieties which are the Government to get a “Quantum not only high-yielding, but also Jump” in the yield potential of rice resistant to pests and diseases, with in the country? better grain quality and suitable for cultivation in different agroclimatic THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ situation. TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) and (b). The technological break Tr3rlff ^ through in the adoption of high yield­ ing varieties of rice, wheat, jowar, bajra and maize in India has come to be known as “Green Revolution”. 37. snn? STmft : fJTT 'The production of wheat in the coun­ try in 1964-65 at 12.26 million tonnes ffir # f»rr was considered to be the best in any : year before the introduction of high yielding varieties in Indian Agricul­ ture. With the introduction of these ( ^ ) fft varieties in 1966-67, the production of wheat increased rapidly and reached level of 31.33 million tonnes in 1977-78. The production of rice also increased from 39.31 million tonnes in 1964-65 to 52.68 million tonnes 1977-78. But the increase in the pro­ (g-) 5ITT duction of rice has not been as pro­ nounced as in the case of wheat. However, steps are being taken by 'TTt^ T fft ifT^pT- the Government to push up the pro­ duction of rice in the country. These steps include cultivation of high yielding varieties of rice over larger (»r) ^ areas coupled with the development ^laTn ^ of irrigation facilities and increased "consumption of chemical fertilisers. €)■ »rt I ? 9 5 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers

f f r («ft grafhr f?)'?>ifTvfr BT3ffci Tii t ;—

•-T^ (nJo ^H) (jfro Zn )

f^lT - 4 0,000 —-

2,500 —

a'V^ 9,000 ----

•-ji'VH n^ir 2 1 7

'T:-rnr «, 0 0 0 —

TT^=«Iln 7,000 —

-JfT-;- STTST 5 0 .000 —

qfa^JT 50,000 45, 000 5 00 fir?^r 2,0 00 ----

(^3) ,??f( ?TR TT53T ?r »it rrf?r ??rfnT t ?n«riT ’[■'TJTi ir)

«n: wr^ifhT kttt '’' ^ erfmrm fV^TT 20. 50 ITT ^ ^r-/5T.'^fr % fntr srrJT; 1 . 50 200 ^'T^r 5pr »fnTT cr; ?TT^?i n sr 3. 50 ^ sT'ffif^ ■^T^'f ^‘t 014-H fT4r ^T’^TT 1 . 00 »rftT*T ?T>JmT ?TbTJk TT STl^'fjrT ^"f | | ST?5T 1. 50 sr»rif^ T%«4^1;d •niiff fsT*!TftTfe?T 1 :— 1, 00 9l Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 98

Illegal incliuioii/exolu8ion of the (b) the number of persons benefit- Members of Delhi School Teachers ted, State-wise? Cooperative House Building Society THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ 38. SHRI MAHI LAL: Will the TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING SURJIT SINGH BARNALA) : (a) and AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ (b). Land allotted to tribals for cul­ TION be pleased to refer to the reply tivation consists of ceiling surplus given to Unstarred Question No. lands and waste lands at the disposal 9425 on the 8th May, 1978 regarding of State Governments. According to Bye-laws of the Delhi School Teach­ the latest information available with ers Cooperative House Building the Government of India, a total area Society Delhi and state; of 2,24,532 acres has been allotted to (a) whether the present Managing Tribals out of the ceiling-surplus lands Committee of the Delhi School Tea­ vested in State Governments. The chers Cooperative House Building State-wise figures are given in the Society, declared elected has, in appended statement. Waste land allot­ violation of the cooperative law and ment takes place from time to tim.e Rules, included those non-teachers and information in this regard is not in the co-called list of approved collected by the Government of India. njembers who were illegally enrol­ led before the Resolution amending Bye-law 5 (i) (a) for enrolment of non­ Statement teachers was passed by the General Bodj/ of the Society, and registered b 3r the Registrar of Cooperatives Stai( /U.'I rn ii('?y 'J otal land No. ol allotted pcrs( ns Delhi; to tribals allotird (b) whether they have, after lapse ^in l.'tiid of many years, now excluded those und( r \ isf'd ffih'r p: non-teachers from the above list who lav s were legally enrolled after the passing and registration of the aforesaid 1 2 3 amendment; and (c) if so, the steps taken so far Andhra Pradesh or proposed to be taken immediately 33-730 21,835 to get the above gross irregularities Assam 30,239 17^498 removed? Bihar 14,871 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ Gujarat Nil Nil HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR Haryana Nil Nil BAKHT): (a)to(c). The member­ ship issue and related matters of this Himachal Pradrsh 43 ^>3 society are the subject matter of a Jammu & Kashmir Nil N ir writ petition in the Delhi High Court. The m atter is, therefore, subjudice. Karnataka N.A- N.A.

Land to Tribals Kerala 3,793 4.545 39. SHRI GANGADJHAR APPA Madhya Pradesh 33,8c8 IO,T 18 BURANDE: Maharashtra Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ T4P-I34 14.040 TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased Manipur Kill Nil to state: Orissa 40,743 27 9 (a) the total amount of land allot­ .fS ted so far to tribals for cultivation, Punjab Nil NU State-wise; and •99 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 100

(b) According to information avail­ able, there were about 7,600 incidents during the last ten months. State Governments and Union Territory Rajasthan 4,047 Administrations have been requested to set up appropriate forums at the Tamil Nadu 3 4 State, District and institutional levels Tripura *5 13 to look into the legitimate grievances of students and redress them. They Utiar Pradefdi N.A. N.A. have also been requested to give ade­ quate attention to the implementation West Bengal N.A. r2,|C)i of schemes intended for the v’elfare Dadra & Nagar Haveli X.A, N.A. of students, admission procedures, prompt recruitment of teaciiers, im- Delhi Nil Nil provchient of teacher-student rela­ Pondicherry Xi] Nil tions, formulation of extra curricular programmes, etc. Co-operation of leaders of political parties has been 2.24,352 1,29,498 sought to keep the campuses of edu­ cational institutions free from politi­ cal activities. The matter was also N o t e :— In resprct of Karnataka and discussed at the Conference of Chief U. P. the area given to Srh' duh*d Tribes is Ministers held in September, 1978 at not available ^separately. In Karnataka an rxi'^nt of 19.968 ac»*es his b'^rn allotted to which they agreed that student pro­ 3 ,7 3 1. persons b^'longing to Schf-duied Castes/ blems should be handled with res­ &hedulcd Tribes. In Uttar Pradesh an traint and understanding and that area of 1,13,278 acres has been allotted to their genuine grievances should be M 4, i i3 person*; belonging to the Scheduled li^es/Schedulcd Tribes. redressed as far as possible.

Student Unrest Implementation of Land Reform through Village Committee 40. SHRI SUBHASH CHANDRA BOSE ALLURI: 41. SHRI M. N. GOVINDAN SHRI D. AMAT: NAIR: Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be ple^ised to state: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to (a) whether it is a fact that there state: has been a sharp rise in student un­ rest in the country after lifting of (a) whether a member of the Plan­ Emergency; and ning Commission has made a sugges­ (b) if so, what is the number of tion that the implementation of the incidents during the last 10 months land ceiling measures should be en­ and steps taken to meet the situa­ trusted to the village committee; and tion? (b) if so, Governm ent’s reaction THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, thereto? SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR, PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ IDER) : (a) There has been an in­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI crease in the number of incidents of SURJIT SINGH BARNALA) : (a) unrest among students since March, The Government is not aware of any 1977 mainly due to the pent up grie- such suggestion. vences ut the period of emergency ventilating themselves. (b) Does not arise. 10 1 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 102

N«nnada Award the Tribunal giving such explanation or guidance is awaited 42. SHRI HITENDRA DESAI: (b) The projects formulated/ SHRI AHMED M. PATEL; finalised by the State Governments in the light of the Tribunars decision Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ have not so far been received. The TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased question of their inclusion in the to state: developmental plans of the States will be considered after receipt of the (a) whether the concerned States projects from the States keeping in have accepted the award of the view the likely available resources Narmada River Tribunal; and etc.

(b) when will the work of the Memorandum from the United Central project start? Refugees Council, West Bengal 43. SHRI CHITTA BASU: Will THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABI­ SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) LITATION be pleased to state: The Narmada Water Dispute Tribunal (a) whether Government received submitted its Report to the Central Government on 16-8-1978. Accord­ a memorandum from the United Cen­ ing to the provisions of the Inter- tral Refugees Council, West Bengal in regard to the problems of rehabilita­ State W ater Disputes Act 1956, if, tion in August, 1978; upon consideration of the decision of the Tribunal, the Central Government (b) if so, the principal demands or any State Government is of raised in the memorandum; and opinion that anything therein contain­ ed requires explanation or that guid­ (c) the reaction of the Government ance is needed upon any point not thereto? originally referred to the Tribunal, THE MINISTER OF WORKS ANI> the Central Government or the State HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ 'nvernment, as the case may be, HABILITATION (SHRi SIKANDAR may, within three months from the BAKHT): (a) Yes, Sir. date of the decision, again refer the matter to the Tribunal for further (b) The principal demands raised consideration, and on such reference, in the Memorandum submitted by the Tribunal may forward to the the United Central Refugees Council, Central Government a further report West Bengal are: giving such explanation or guidance as it deems fit and in such a case, the (i) appointment of a Committee with Members of Parliament, re­ decision of the Tribunal shall be deemed to be modified accordingly. presentatives of the Central Gov­ ernment and Government of West The Act further provides that the Central Government shall publish Bengal to take an appraisal of the rehabilitation of displaced persons the decision of the Tribunal in the in West Bengal; Official Gazette and the decision shall be final and binding on the parties to (ii) creation of a full-fledged the dispute and shall be given effect Ministry of Rehabilitation; to by them. Accordingly, the Central (iii) demand of West Bengal Gov­ Government and the State Govern­ ernm ent for Rs. re­ ments of Gujarat, Madhya pradesh, 500 crores for habilitation of refugees to be grant­ Maharashtra and Rajasthan have made ed; references to the Tribunal on 15-11-1978 seeking clarifications/ (iv) conferment of right and title guidance. The further report from on free-hold basis to lands allotted^ 103 WHtten Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 104

to refugees; contributory loans could not be (v) remission of all type of loans agreed to because the beneficiarie® and contributory loans; of these loans were economicallj (vi) regularisation of squatters better off and had the repaying capacity. colonies upto 1977; (vii) declaration of all non-camp Administrative approval has been refugees eligible for rehabilitation accorded to regularisation of 17S assistance; squatters' colonies set up after (viii) increase the grant for the 1950. development of colonies; The question of ineligible non­ (ix) sanction Panchanna and camp displaced persons in West Herobhanga II scheme and mainten­ Bengal at this stage cannot be re­ ance of P. L. Homes by the Central opened. Government. (c) The reactions of the Govern­ Development of Government ment are as follows; — sponsored colonies has been taken up as a Plan schenie under the There is no need for a Committee Ministry of Works and Housing at this stage, as the problems and funds are being provided in of refugees in West Bengal are al­ consultation with the West Bengal ready appraised and studied. The Government and the Planning magnitude of the problem posed by Commission. the displaced persons in West Ben­ gal was assessed early as in 1952 There is no programme for deve­ through a Fact Finding Committee^ lopment at Panchanna gramme yet. Committee of Ministers for the re­ Regarding Herobhanga scheme, a habilitation of displaced persons view has been taken that the State followed by an examination of the Government may examine this tesiduar>' problems of rehabilitation separately as a part of their Sun- in 1960-61 (by the Branch Secreta­ derbans Development Scheme. riat Calcutta), in 1967—74 (bv the Committee of Review), in 1975-76 The responsibility of running the (by the Working Group). The re­ P.L. Homes will devolve on the commendations of the W orking State Governments as the Sixth Group given in 1976 are still under Finance Commission has made its implementation by the Government recommendations on this aspect. •of West Bengal. There is already a separate Construction of Houses in Resettlement department of Rehabilitation; the Caloiiies hit by Floods in Delhi present arrangements are adequate. 44. SHRI P. K. KODIYAN: Will The request of the West Bengal the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ Government for assistance of Rs. 500 crores was made to the Seventh ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI­ TATION be pleased to state: Finance Commission. The proposals regarding con­ (a) whether any steps have been ferment of right and title, on free taken to construct houses in resettle­ hold basis in regard to urban ment colonies of Delhi which were lands, is under consideration and badly hit by the recent floods; it has been conferred already in regard to rural lands. (b) if so, the details thereof; and The question of remission of *type' loans in toto was agreed to in 1977 (c) the estimated cost for construc­ .-Bird that of ^‘non-type loans** or tion of houses in these colonieil? 105 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers io 6

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Ft? i 9T ij?iT ^Fffft^cf lu n HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR I w r Prqw or BAKHT (a) to (c). Information is ? r r ^ % ’i'>T 5 (fr) % !T?rrTT : ?r*TiT^r t % iT^srCN 5rJTFfr n ^ 71'^ ( i ) ( tt) ’T'lKr’: ^ '=7 >r?r ^■•Cnr W l ^'r )fTir?rr r n r f | ^'T IT ^ f>T% ■^rrfwr ?TT*r?T ?TTf^: 'B'Tsr % ?rq-fr CN ?(> iRrr ?Tr^5T Jr srr*T=r Sf ^ ?T'TT srr^'T % ?T ; (ii) 5T sf ; «fr gfnfs^^ { ^ ) ^r, ffT ^ < gr=fi % ?r?rr^‘T ?frEi ?T?T7t Trr Trriir ^■fqr^^'T, ^»rTf^rr?fr ?ftT % iTcUfsTf: if *ThT sfrr ^fT ^fift % ?»T^^ia^T f warmiT if Ti»nr ^TnT I »T«ft («ft Sr?TR ffT5 ) : {^)i

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THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, (b) The Guidelines circulated by SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE the Commission visualise that dunng (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- the period of transition to the new DER): (a) to (c). There is some gulf pattern of education, there may be- different patterns at the first degree between language used in the schools level. Taking into account the exist­ and the language spoken at home. ing variations in duration and struc­ This is a natural phenomenon every ture of courses in different States and where. The reformed system of edu­ Universities, it is expected that some cation attempts to improve and refine the vocabulary of the child. Some­ universities may have a three-year first degree course while others nray times, words coined by the academic have a two-year pass degree course, bodies are found too heavy by school during the transitory period. How* teachers and students. The difficulty of language, especially of technical ever, it has been suggested that no* student should be admitted to a post­ terms, has sometimes resulted in low achievement by the students. graduate course, unless he has done a three-year degree course. Universi­ The system responds to this defect ties which offer a two-year pass by trying to orient the teachers to course should make provision for a» handle such situations. This is a con­ one-year bridge course to prepare tinuous process. To some extent this students for entry to post-graduate courses. gulf can be bridged if at least at tha primary level the process of curricu­ lum development and preparation of instruction material is decentralised to tr>iRT provide at least for a certain inter-play between the academic vocabulary and the language of the environment. 4 8. fsPTPIC sm u r NCERT is contemplating certain cur­ ricular reform in this direction.

U.G C. Gaidelines regarding two/ three year Degree Course (^ ) qr f^-T STn sinr fen f, 47. SHRI RAJKESHAR SINGH: fT-ill ^ sm isff qfTEiTff SHRI SARAT KAR: ^iTnT ’irr fwr Tf7sTTT Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state; ( ^ ) STrirqf: trfV^TT ^'T (a) whether the University Grants nfJT spy *rf % >TfT5rTfT Commisiio^ has circulated some % f e in guidelines to all the Universities, re­ garding two year or three year Degree ^ I; 109 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers n o

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AaManee by World Bank for expand- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN iaiff rood Sfotace THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRATAP SINGH): (a) ad (b). An agreement has been signed with 49. SHRI P. S. RAMALINGAM: the International Development Associa­ Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE tion for the construction of AND IRRIGATION be pleased to 3.575 million tonnes storage capacity, at a state: cost of $215.5 million and the IDA (a) the assistance proposed to be would provide assistance of $107 mil- given by World Bank and other in­ licn, 4.25 lakh tonnes capacity is pro­ ternational organisations for expand­ posed to be constructed at a cost of ing food storage in this country; about Rs. 12 crores with the assistance from European Economic Community and the EEC contribution would cover (b) the particulars of assistance; about 50 per cent of the cost.

(c) the extent to which preparatory or matching efforts have been made The Australian Government baa to avail of the anistance; and offered to provide assistance to the tune of about Rs. 5.6 crores in the (d) delays, if any, in availing of form of prefab steel structures for the assistance indicating reasons therefor construction of 1-5 lakh tonneg storaga fl^l ranedial steps? capaci^. This is under considerattoB. 113 Written Anawen KABTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 114 I 1 V. . . . , , (c) and (d). Preparatory steps such and Western States and with a num­ as acquisition of land, inviting of ten­ ber of Chief Ministers who argued for ders, Award of works etc. are in pro­ a subsidy on paddy; and gress in respect of IDA assisted pro­ grammes. Construction works are also in progress in respect of EEC assisted (b) if so, the details regarding the works. The Australian Government suggestions and the decisions taken offer is under consideration. thereon?

Report of Panel to review THE MINISTER OF STATU IN THE Sugar Policy MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU 50. SHRI D. N. TIWARY: Will the PRATAP SINGH): (a) and (b). In Minister of AGRICULTURE AND the process of determining the kharif IRRIGATION be pleased to state: prices discussions were held with the Chief Ministers/Food Ministers/Agri­ (a) whether the Sub-Committee of culture Ministers of Paddy producing the Cabinet appointed to review sugar States. While all of them wanted the policy after the decontrol of sugar has issue price of rice, from Central Pool, submitted its report; and to remain unchanged, the suggestions

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Rs. per Qt. THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU Uttar Pradrsh <^4.GO PRATAP SINGH): (a) and (b). The Punjab "j . 90. g o / Sugar Policy after decontrol wag re­ Haryana • 91.00 viewed by the Committee. For the Orissa J . present there will be no change from Karnataka 95.00 the full decontrol conditions of August Andhra Pradesh 120.00 1978 and it was decided that suitable Tamil Nadu . 137.00 legislation should be undertaken for Kerala 120.00 taking over of management of sugar Madhya Prad(’sli 100.00 factories which either do not start Gujarat J crushing by 15th November, 1978, or, Maharashtra 129.00 keep cane arrears un-paid beyond a Assam 112.50 level of 10 per cent of the price pay­ W-stBrnir;,l . able for cane purchased in 1977-78. Himachal 'ih J- 82 . 00 Accordingly, the Sugar Undertakings Jaiuinu & Kashnii (Taking over of Management) Ordi­ nance, 1978 was promulgated on 9th After taking into consideration the November, 1978. suggestions made by the representa­ tives of these State Governments and Subsidy on Paddy the recommendations made by Agricul­ 51. SHRI K. PRADHANI: tural Prices Commission, it was decid­ SHRI SARAT KAR: ed by the Government of India that the SHRI A. R. BADRI NARAIN: procurement prices for paddy for the SHRI RAMACHANDRAN marketing season 1978-79 be fixed at KADANNAPPALLI: Rs. 85/- per qtl. (as against Rs. 77/- per qtl. in 1977-78 season) for the Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE coarse variety and the procurement ^A}|D IRRI(5ATI0N be pleased to prices for otlier varieties of paddy may be derived from the price of the coarse . (a^ whether he held a meeting with vmety on the basis of traditional ITorthem differentials in the viarious Statei, ii5 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers Ii6

Betnrn of Refui^ees to Dandakaranya (iv) i5 days’ dole costing not from West Bengul more than Rs. 60/- per family as a grant. 52. PHOF. SAMAR GUHA: WUl the (v) a grant not exceeding Rs. 25/- Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING per family for construction of a AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ kit( hen hut in cases where the set­ TION be pleased to state: tlers have not yet been provided houses. (a) whether the refugees who mov­ ed out of Dandakaranya area to go to The families who deserted from West Bengal have gpne back to their karmi shibirs have like-wise been former sites of rehabilitation; permitted to rejoin their respective karmi shibirs and get relief assistance. (b) if so, facts thereabout and These families will be settled in their details about the steps taken by the turn. Government for resettlement of the refugees who returned to Danda­ 3. As most of the families returned karanya and the number of refugees late, the post-kharif cultivation drive from Dandakaranya area who are still Was launched, resulting in an area of living in West Bengal; and 16,498 acres of land being brought under crops like Til, Pulses and other (c) Government’s policy about the kharif crops. Similarly, a works pro­ refugees who refused to return to gramme has also been organised to Dandakaranya from West Bengal? provide work to the settlers. (c) Government can afford assis­ THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND tance to the deserters if they return HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ to the Project area. The State Gov­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR ernment of West Bengal will no doubt BAKHT): (a) and (b). 14,388 families be dealing with the remaining deser­ of displaced persons (10,329 from set­ ters in that State with a view to per­ tler villages and 4,059 families aw ait­ suade them to return to the Project ing resettlement in karmi shibirs) area. deserted from various rehabilitation sites and karmi shibirs in Dandakara­ nya. Of these, 10,260 families (8,666 Grant of Housing Loans by Delhi from settler villages and 1,594 families Administration from karmi shibirs) have returned till 31st October, 1978. The remaining 53. SHRI KACHARULAL HEMRAJ 4,128 families have not yet returned JAIN: Will the Minister of WORK8 and inay be in West Bengal. AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITATION be pleased to 2. The returnee settler families have state: been sanctioned renewed financial as­ sistance for purchase of bullocks, agri­ (a) the number of applicants sanc­ cultural inputs, etc. as follows: tioned house building loan by tha Delhi Administration during the year (i) A loan of Rs. 500$- per fam ily 1978-79 so far upto 30-10-78 and the for purchase of seeds, fertilisers, amoimt involved therein; agricultural implements, etc. (ii) A loan of Rs. 900/- per fam ily (b) the total number of applications for purchase of a pair of bullocks or pending for house building loans with supply of bullocks from the cattle the Delhi Administration and when held by the Project Administration; these applications are likely to be dis- ^ posed of; and (Hi) 2 quintals of rice per family costing jtot more than Rs. 350/- per (c) who is responsible for th^ d d u family as a grant. in disposal of these applications ana 117 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers i i 8 the nature of steps taken or proposed Guidelines for the Urban Land to be taken to dispose of these appli­ (CelUnr & BeculatiOTi) Act, 1976 cations quickly? 55. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND SHRI A. R. BADRI NARAIN: HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR Will the Minister of WORKS AND BAKHT): (a) During 1978-79 (upio HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND 30-10-78) Delhi Administration has REHABILITATION be pleased to the sanctioned house building loan to 642 reply given to Starred Question No. applicants involving an amount of 270 on 13th March, 1978 regarding New Rs. 84.30 lakhs. Guidelines on Urban Land Ceiling Act, (b) and (c) The number of pending 1976 and state: applications with Delhi Admiinstra- tion is 581. In addition to paucity of (a) whether it is a fact that Union funds/allocation for various housing, Government has finalised the guide­ non-fulfilment of certain formalities lines to the Urban Land (Ceiling & by the applicants results in d^lay of Regulation) Act, 1976; sanctioning the loan. Delhi Adminis­ tration have initiated action for obtain­ (b) if so, what are the details of ing additional funds for clearing the the guidelines prepared; backlog. (c) whether the actual surplus land so far available has been assured; and

(d) if so, the details of the same?

54. Tm ^ THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR 'If'TT : BAKHT): (a) and (b) The Central Government issues guidelines t© the ( ^ ) State Governments clarifying the intent and purport of the provisions ol the Act from time to time. A sumniary of the important guidelines is annex­ ed. '^rnrnT ^ | 5ri%- 5T»rf?T ^ fTT?r (c) As reported by the State Gov­ ernments, the total extent of land in excess of the ceiling limit held by per­ sons is estimated at 95,000 hectares out ( g ) F«rmT ^ of which a substantial extent is likely to be exempted for agricialtural, in­ dustrial, commercial purposes etc. ftw n, tTRRi vPTTit iifhr (d) The extent of excess vacant ihiram ^ TTW«T?ft W t land acquired and vested with the : (^p) State Governments so far, is as fol­ low s:— 'T€Rt tc f?fTT Jr Jf 1. Gujarat: 23.14 hectares 2. Karnataka: 14.1 hectares 3. Maharashtra: 171.02 hectares 4. Uttar Pradesh: 65.80 hectares (’i) 5r?fr I 5. Cantonment areas: 4.50 hectares 119 WHtten Antwen NOVXIIBBR 20, 1978 WHtten Answers 120

Summary of important gwdeUnes (5) A servant quarter or out-house under the Urban Land Ceiling Act situated in the compound of the main issued to the State Governments. building will be treated as a separate dwelling unit and will be entitled to contiguous land not exceeding sq. (1) Section 2(g) of the Act pres­ 500 mts. but no separate land appurtenant cribes the maximum extent of land is admissible. If the building contains appurtenant admissible to a building one or more servant quarters each and as 500 sq. metres. In the case of resi­ every servant quarter will not be en­ dential buildings, an additional extent titled to separate additional contiguous of 500 sq. mts, of contiguous land is jand than that allowed for the main admissible. It has been decided that building. even in the case of dwelling units which are under construction on the (6) In order to encourage group- appointed day (28-1-1976), the addi­ housing^ it has been decided that in tional extent of contiguous land should the case of Delhi, the vacant land be allowed. held by a person for grouphousing should be exempted under section 20 In the case of non-residential and so that the land can be utilised for residential multi-storeyed buildings, as grouphousing in accordance with the the land appurtenant measuring 500 sq. Master Plan or Zonal plan of Delhi. mts. will not be adequate, it has been decided that the land appurtenant as (1) If housing co-operative societies admissible under the building regula­ have entered into agreements for tions for the convenient enjoyment of purchase of land from private persons the building may be allowed by grant­ before the commencment of the Act, ing exemption under section 20. such agreements can be registered cfter obtaining exemption under (2) It has been decided that if section 20 of the Act provided that each vacant land or property is held jointly, member of the society does not hold each co-owner can hold vacant land vacant land more than the ceiling upto the ceiling limit and that the co­ limit. owners should not be jointly treated as a “person"’. (8) It has been decided that even if land acquisition proceedings have been (3) It has been decided that the peri­ initiated under the Land Acquisition phery of an urban agglomeration in Act, the proceedings under the Urban one State should not extend into the Land (Ceiling and Regulation) Act, boundary of another State. 1976 may also be initiated with respect to the same land with a view to vest­ ing the excess vacant land in the It has been decided that the entire Government. Thereafter the land Thana Urban agglomeration including equal to the ceiling limit retainable by its periphery should be treated as its owner should be acquired by con­ Category ‘D* notwithstanding the fact tinuing the proceedings under the land that a portion of that urban agglomera­ Acquisition Act. tion falls within the peripheral area of the Greater Bombay Urban agglo­ There is no objection to the acquisi­ meration. tion under the Land Acquisition Act of land in an urban agglomeration to (4) Land on which construction had which the Urban Land (Ceiling and commenced after 28-1-1976 but before Regulation) Act, 1976 applies. Much 17-2-76 in accordance with the ap­ depends on how urgently the land is ^ proved building plans will not be needed. If the requirement is urgent treated as vacant land. Such a buildi- and cannot wait till the land vests with ing will be entitled to land appurte­ the Government under the Urban Land nant as per the Act. (Ceiling and Regulation) Act, 1976^ 121 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 122 there is no objection to use the Land pose , of cor^struction of ^odown^ for Act. However, the cost aspect should the Food Corporation of India for a be given due consideration before ac­ tem porary period covering the period quisition under the Land Acquisition of contract with the Food Corporation Act is resorted to. of India which may be extended by one year. (9) Stale Governments in public in­ terest may exempt lands which are (14) Exemptions may be given to entered in the land records before excess vacant land in public interest 28-1-1976 as being used mainly for on a consideration of the lay-out plan agriculture and are being actually so of the area, its environment, its aesthe­ used even if they are specified in the tic quality Or its substantially built up Master Plan for a purpose other than, character provided that it is not trans- agriculture subject to the condition ferred or put to any other use. that the land is not transferred or the uL’.e is not changed. (15) Exemptions may be given to land earmarked for commercial use (10) There is no objection to a obtained from government or semi- charitable institution selling the land government agencies subject to the for the purpose of utilising the pro­ condition that the land is not trans­ ceeds to promote the objects of the ferred (provided that the land has been trust after obtaining exemption under obtained for commercial use or con­ section 20 from the State Government. verted to commercial use not more than five years before the commence­ (11) Persons holding vacant land in ment of the Act). excess of the ceiling limit including land for an industry come under the (16) Persons may hold vacant land purview of the Act. A person wanting in excess of the ceiling limit for con­ to retain the vacant land in excess of struction of dwelling units for the the ceiling limit for an industry should weaker sections of society after ob­ apply to the State Government for ex­ taining permission under section 21’ emption. Exemption will be granted subject to the following conditions: taking into account the present and future requirements of the industry. (i) not less than 50 per cent of Vacant land upto 1/2 acre in Category the total number of dwelling units ‘A’ urban agglomerations and 1 acre constructed should have a plinth in other urban agglomerations can be area not exceeding 40 sq. mts. The exempted as a matter of course. The balance can have a plinth area bet­ exemption is subject to the condition ween 41 sq. mets. and 80 sq. mts. that the exempted land will be put to use within the prescribed period and (ii) the construction of the dwel­ that it will not be transferred other ling units should be completed with­ than for the purpose of obtaining a in five years from the date of per­ loan from a financial institution by mission by the competent authority. mortgage. (iii) the dwelling units shall be sold by outright sale or hire-pur­ (12) Exemption may be granted to chase or shall be let out on rent ta the vacant land in excess of the ceil­ the weaker sections of society. ing limit held by a coloniser so that the land after development may be Where the dwelling unit is sold by transferred to the individual customers outright sale, the sale price should as per agreements executed with them. not exceed the sum consisting of the actual cost of construction of the (13) The State Governments may dwelling unit and the amount he would grant exemption to vacant land in be entitled under the Act to the land excess of the ceiling limit for the pur­ occupied by such dwelling unit and 123 Written Answers NOVEMBEB 20, 1978 Written Anawers 12 4 the land appurtenent, if the vacant land Building plans on vacant land in is deemed to have been acquired by excess of the ceiling limit may also the State Government together with a be approved provided that the con- sum calculate at the rate of fifteen struction is restricted to the extent of per cent on such cost of construction land the person can hold upto the and such amount. ceiling limit after obtaining an affidavit and an indemnity bond. Construction Where any dwelling unit is sold on on the excess vacant land may be hire-purchase such person shall be en­ undertaken only after the exemption titled in addition to the sale price, is granted. interest calculated at the rate of ten I>er cent per annum on the unpaid There is no objection to additions portion of the sale price. and alterations being carried out to an existing building provided that the Where any dwelling unit is let out, plinth area of the building in the the rent shall be worked out so that ground floor is not altered or whereby the person will get a return not ex­ such alteration, the extent of vacant ceeding ten per cent per annum on the land in the plot in which the building sale price of the dwelling unit. is situated is not affected.

(iv) Between the date of permis­ Taking over Rao Tula Ram College, sion and date of completion of the New Delhi dwelling units, no transfer of land is permissible. 56. SHRI R. P. MANDAL: Will the Minister of EDUCATION. SOCIAL (17) There is no objection to de­ WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased molish an existing building in an area to state: to redevelop the area together with the excess land, after obtaining ex­ (a) whether some students of Rao emption under section 20, provided that Tularam College, New Delhi staged a the redevelopment is in accordance dhama outside the Vice-Chancellor’s with the Master Plan or zonal plan of office on 19th October, 1978; the area concerned. (b) whether they demanded take (18) Instructions have been given over of the College by the Delhi Uni­ to the competent authorities to deal versity and also demanded affiliation with notices regarding transfer of of the Ck)llege to Delhi University vacant land within the ceiling limit Union; experitiously and that if the transfer (c) whether the Staff association of is not by way of sale, within three days the College also demanded take over; •o that the registration relating to such documents is not delayed. (d) whether it is a fact that the staff of the College has not got their Similarly, regarding built up pro­ pay for the last three months and the perty situated in urban or urbanisable College is not functioning for one land, pe-Tnissions should be given by month; and the competent authorities in cases (e) whether Government contem­ other than for sale within three days. plate intervening in the matter; if not, why? (19) There should not be any delay in sanctioning building plans for build­ ings on vacant lands within the ceiling THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, V.mit For this purpose, an affidavit SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE and an indemnity bond kave been pres­ fDR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- cribed. DER): (a) Yes, Sir. 125 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 19Q0 (SAKA) Written Answers ia 6 (b) One of the demands of the stu­ has been criticism against the manner dents was for taking over of the in which the Institute has been func­ college by the Delhi University. tioning, its procedures for selection of academic personnel and its overall (c) Yes, Sir. administration. Doubts were also ex- (d) Yes, Sir. I/ressed about the quality of the acade­ mic work at the Institute and the (e) Take over of this college by the impact it has made on the academic Delhi University has been under con­ community. sideration for some time. The matter was discussed by the University Grants (c) Yes, Sir. Commission at its meeting held on (d) The Committee consisted of: 14th November, 1978 and it was decid­ ed that the matter be further discussed (i) Prof. A. K. Das Gupta, Hony. by the Commission ^^■ith the Delhi Uni­ Professor, Jawaharlal Nehru Univer- versity. sitj^^ New Delhi. (ii) Dr. H. D. Sankalia, Post Review Committee on Indian Institute Graduate and Research Institute, of Advanced Study, Simla Deccan ColJege, Pune and (iii) Shri T. N. Chaturvedi, Chief 57. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: Commissioner, Union Territory of Will the Minister of EDUCATION, Chandigarh, Chandigarh. SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: Besides collecting and analysing the factual data relating to various aspects (a) whether it is a fact that the of the functioning of the Institute, the affairs and activities of the Indian Committee also invited comments, Institute of Advanced Study, Simla, are not quite satisfactory for the past views and suggestions from the acade­ S3me years and that they are increas­ mic staff who were associated with the Institute since its inception. The Com­ ingly coming under critical assessment mittee visited the Institute and held and attacks in the academic world; discussions with the academic staff (b) if so, broad details and main and the Director. reasons thereto; (e) Yes, Sir. (c) whether a three-member re­ (f) The Committee had expressed view conimittee was appointed by the the view that there was no justifica­ Government in the year 1977 to go tion for the continuance of the Institute into the affairs of XIAJS, Simla; in its present form and that if the (d) if so, names of the said Com­ Institute has to continue, its character mittee members and their method of should be changed and the objectives review; revised. (e) whether they have submitted (g) The report is under considera­ a report to the Government; tion of the Government. (f) ii $ 0i tb eir ja a in fincjings and Award of Ph.D. Degree by Agra recommendations; and University (g) when, will the said recommen­ 58. SHRI SHAMBHU NATH CHA­ dations be implemented by the Gov- TURVEDI: Will the Minister of EDU­ om m ent? CATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND •7ULTURE be pleased to refer to the THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, reply given to Unstarred Question No. SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 1807 on March 6, 1978 and Unstarred (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- Question No. 48 on July 17, 1978 reg ard ­ I7ER): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. There ing publication in Research journals of 12J Written Answers NOViaifefcR 20, 1078 W r^en Answers l i i

the Afra University of basically wrong '‘Mathematics Education*’ publisheSl and faUacious solution to mathemati­ in 1974 in Bihar. The question of cal problems and award of a prize mentioning this article in the tlieais and even a Ph. D. degree in the basis submitted earlier did not therefore thereof, and state: arise. It was an omission on the part (a) whether the University Grants of the printers of the Journal in not Commission’s Panel on mathematics correctly mentioning the authorship has since given its report on the re­ of the article. The Agra University ference made to it; is not concernsd with the publication of the Journal, nor were the proofs or (b) if so, w hat is its finding on each reprints of the article received from of these cases cited therein; the publishers. Dr. Sharma has further stated that any scholar finding mis­ (c) whether any action has been takes in the published article should taken either by the U.G.C. or the Uni- have written to the Journal (The "’ersity to undo me mischief done by this pollution of knowledge and to Mathematics Education) so that the prevent its recurrence; if so what; author could also send a rejoinder and the whole matter generate academic (d) whether it is also a fact that interest. one of the authors of these research papers was the recipient of a fellow­ The Ph D, work in question was not ships of U.G.C.; and undertaken by Shr: P. N. Singh with a fellowship awarded by the University (e) when he did this research and Grants Commission. published his paper?

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, Housing loans by World Bank SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- 59. SHRI P. KANNAN: Will the DER): (a) to (e). The m atter was con­ Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING sidered by the Conveners of the Science AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ Panels of the University Grants Com­ TION be pleased to state: mission on Se;/-.nber 13, 1978. They felt that it will be difficult for the (a) the assistance given by World UGC to interfere with the decisions of Bank for housing in this country; Universities on acceptance of Ph. D. thesis or publication of research (b) the conditions of assistance; results in journals. It has been left to (c) the extent to which assistance individual subject panels to suggest has been availed of; list of journals which maintain good standards through recourse to refree (d) whether there are any cases, in evaluation of papers received for which such assistance has not been publication, so that a publication in availed of for lack of preparatory or such a journal would be considered as matching efforts; and of good quality. (e) if so^ the detallff Hid the steps On the specific points mentioned in taken to ensure that assistance does Dr. J. P. Agarwars letter, at the not go abegging? instance of the Vice-Chancellor, Agra University, Dr. H. S. Sharma who was thie Supervisor, had written Ho the THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Commission on September 9, 1978 to HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ explain the position. According to HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR Dr. Sharma, the thesis was submitted BAKHT): (a) No assistance has been by Shri P. N. Singh in January, 1973, received from World Bank for housing. and the article was printed later in the June, 1973 volume of the Journal (b) to (e). Do not arise. ■ ' M . -..f 129 WHtten Answers KARTK A 2», IMO {SAKA) Written Answers I'^iy

BKtenslon of Drovght Prone Area Profnunme

60. DR. BAPU KALDATE: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND 61. «fy ^ PwTijr IRRIGATION be pleased to state: WWW ?TJ|T ^ 1% : (a) whether a number of States and Members of Parliament have re­ presented to the Government for the (-T) ^ t expansion of Drought Prone-Area Programme on the grounds that somo of the areas left out of this Central Scheme are equally bad and that there is a need for inclusion of such areas under this programme; (’i ) ^ ^ I n f rr, (b) if so, the decision of Govern­ ’nr ^ stt’: ^ r - ment in this regard; T?i t ^ (c) whether Dr. Minhas Committee had recommended consideration of ex­ tension of area under this programme (^ ) ^ «fr ^ I % ?rf during the 6th plan; and f??5fr n'^T'TrftiTT ?flT fsiTrW f ^ » T % fq5|Tq (d) if so, what action has been taken fop the expansion of the pro­ f?lT I ; gramme to the chronically drought affected areas which have been left out by the previous regime if the (w) qrf? afT t present programme is to continue dur­ ing the 6th Five Year Plan? ^ W:t | ?TTr f?r >T^ qr, ^ ^ ^ f e n ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE & m n ^ IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRATAP »T5ft («ft ; ( ^ ) SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. f?pnff % ?f7:qTr

5fft JiTffr I sfsr f n m ’n’ ('d'^ In view of (c) above, the ques­ tion does not arise. i’:r ^;vq- oagT | I Written Answers NOVE^jBER 2Q, 197JB Written Answers 132 ( ^ ) Provision of Drinkingr Water in Vishwash Nagar, S)ialu4ara, Delhi ^ f^^rpff im ^ ^rnft I I ^^rrPr, ^ ^ ir f^iT^r jTT 64. SHRI HALIMUDDIN AHMED: Will the Minister of WORKS AND f»f ^ I ^hRifori % HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ f^TF^r *1*^ HABILITATION be pleased to state: ^ Hw< f^nnr ^\Tj f*T

(c) if so, when? Speedy implementation of Land Reform Proi:ramme THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 63. SHRI S. R. REDDY: HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ SHRI AMAR SINH V. HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR RATHAWA; BAKHT): (a) There are no Munici­ pal water mains in these blocks of VishwBsh Nagar colony as the area is Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE unauthorised and the residents have AND IRRIGATION be pleased to not come forward to pay the develop­ state: ment charges for laying the water mains. The residents are at present (a) whether recently decision has taking water from six metered pubUc been taken at the Chief Ministers water hydrants installed at their cost Conference to ensure speedy artion in these blocks. There are no reports in implementing land reforms* and of spread of any such water borne diseases from the said area. (b) if so, the details thereof? (b) and (c). An estimate amounting THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE to Rs. 87,785 for providing water coa- AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT riections in the area was sanctioned by SINGH BARNALA): (a) The recent the competent authority in the year, Conference of Chief Ministers held on 1974. The work could not be taken up the 23rd and the 24th of September, as the residents did not come forward 1978 did not discuss or take any deci­ to pay the cost of work. Water supply sion on implementation of land refonns. can be provided to the residents after they pay for the work according to (b) Does not arise. current cost estimate. 133 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 134

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^ f tw if JT^'r ^ 5rriJt Inquiry into Jawaliarlal Nehru Uni­ ^ I??! ^ % : versity Affairs

66. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN: 1 9 7 7 -7 8 Will the Minister of EDUCATION. t W ^ fT ^ rt f«TT t , f^5re% SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: ^T«T TT fir^ft ^T«TT "TTrt ^ (a) whether it is a fact that the ^T5ff w r f?rer?fT^ C\ ^ ^ »r?ti Prime Minister as the Chancellor of T T T ? r ; ; Jawaharlal University had conducted an enquiry into the various aspecta (g-) irfV ?f, ^ ^ ?TT^rT % of that University; *r# ^ (b) w hether it is a fact that thlB % f^ q 5fTT^ ^ 1 / report is not being made available; and (JT) q-f? a’t ®!TtTT ^ | ?ffT ^ «ra’ f^RtfTT f w »PTr (c) if so, the reasons and details thereof? I ; ?r>T I THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, ( ^ ) f t n ? n :^ r T ^ »r?rr T ? < r r ^ SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE TT3»n ^r w % ’tRT T^T (DR. PARTAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER): (a) to (c). The Prime Minister has conducted a preliminary enquiry jrftr ^r, m ^ q r y a r k r ^ | ? mto complaints against Jawaharlal Nehru University. His Report is meant only for departmental use. wVt f w n i ^ («ft 5tar>r fil^WTsnm) : ^ I ^ 1976- 77%?h:i!T 1530H ^lffo J’ff^'V^^RT ^r «w’ 1977-78 % 5kT5T 1816 wifw?r w\? ««f i JI5 Tfto JIT ^ ^Tcqr^H |«rr «tt * fiwTi %nr rWlft', %55 ?RT|T ^r ftrfTT’i^ WT*i^ 13iK>’ ^ntfecT ^ w r (f^(4 *i 1C ^ I»|- ii *r •< ftreti «•% *iJr I ; 135 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Amviers 136

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( r) ^fr qTfTf< Tr ( ^ ) pf? Ti- 'fv: ^ ; t f r «T?i ^ %iiTr % 'ir s W t t. ^'t »rf I ? STT^inifT fTT I ; ?Th: f ^ f o i wVt: ?wr gfa wh: (^ ) ?r, sfftBifn ^ % Jjwfw iTer\ («ft 9tST) : JTrTiT I ? ( ^ ) ^"r, ^ f I

f5T«rr, Hmsi w^ pt ('!) 7Fn fr nff -JSiT I »T?A («(o JTSH ^ ^fS) : ( ^ ) % (^). vT'^m 7'r? f^sTr ^ Period of retention of Government 1983-84 ^'r ?T^r^ =r^. accommodation b y retired Govern­ ment Officers g»T€rr f^nsn: ?tk f^ ?r^ 15-35 ^r ipT^sTr ^'t ^«T3t ^ % 69. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Will the ?rrfW I I •3m- Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ srrfrr frof ^ TION be pleased to state: m»fi t srt? ftr«Tr g'T?T% wi (a) the maximum period upto I I 1978-79 % ^kr^T T^rir i s which a retired Government ofRcer 5Tt?f ^ vrrr*T?T ^ m % 1 can retain Government bungalow; Jiw^ sitf fjfrerr Jf 30 srt? (b) name and designation of offi­ a^pRUff ^ vrrftw I cers who continue to retain Govern­ wif^ TTojftofiiro^o ^ fq:®i ment accommodation even at the ex­ piry of 6 months period in New ^ i *T*fr ^r 1983-84 fTfT Delhi; 1 5 -3 5 ?TI^-^»T % f ^ f f 5|ft (c) the circumst-mces under v/hich sq t’TfT ^ t, they were allowed to do so: and % ftr^ ^'Tf TTfVr- (d) w hether he is aware that some ^T®rr ^ |f f r Tit I I ^ 4 ^ 7 , iPT--?rf?r cf these retired ofTicers own their ov^n houses in New Delhi from whidi ^ if !tV? ftrsTr %?s »fTf=R % tney are getting high rents as com­ srm ftr^ fr ^i?fr % 1 pared to comparotively low reni paid by them for Government acconimo- dalion occupied by them? Pwif ^ *wnff ^ f?m^i ^ rrwit vt f^"hT THE m in is te r o f WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR 68- 'sfl irfr 5WfT *Hn^f : ^ BAKHT): (a) An officer is entitled to fimW iftr mwnfr ?wt i#\r 3«wfH retain Government accommodation, w t JT^ ^arir ^ frqr ^ f% : after retirement from Govt, service, normally, for a period of two months from the date of retirement, on pay­ ( ^ ) WT ? n : ^ ^ * i? n T ^ ment of licence fee at normal rate. v??ir t v rfnf*r Thereafter, the Director of EstatM 137 Written Answ^a K ^^K A 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 138 m ay allow him to retain the accommo­ (c) The handling and transport dation, in special circumstances, lor a work has been entrusted to labour co­ period not exceeding six months, on operatives at 9 depots. payment of twice the standard licence fee under FR. 45A or twice the pooled standard licence fee under FR. 45A, Procurement Price of Wheat whichever is higher. 71. SHRI D. D. DESAI: WiU the (b) A statement giving the informa­ Minister of AGRICULTURE AND tion is laid on the Table of the House IRRIGATION be pleased to state: [Placed in Library. See No. LT-2775/ 78] (a) w hether w^heat procurem ent (c) No officer has been formally price for the coming rabi season is to allowed to retain the Government be announced before the sowing starts; accommodation 6 months beyond the concessional period admissible under (h) if so, whether the new procure­ the rules. The officers concerned are ment price will take into account the retaining the Government accommo­ extensive damage caused to wheat dation unauthorisedly and eviction fields by recent floods and increased proceedings under the Public Premises cultivation costs because of it; and (Eviction of Unauthorised Occupants) (c) whether parity is being main­ Act 1971 have been initiated against tained between procurement prices ot them. wheat, rice and other grains and the general price level? (d) There is only one such officer. His allotment stands cancelled and eviction proceedings have been initiat- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ed against him. MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE & IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRATAP Contract labour in handling opera­ SINGH): (a) The Agricultural Prices Commission is expected to submit its tions of F.C.I. report on price and procurement policy for wheat for the coming rabi 70. DR. P. V. PERIASAMY: WiU the season (1979-80) in the near futui*e. Minister of AGRICULTURE AND Thereafter. the Government will IRRIGATION be pleased to state: announce the procurement price after taking into consideration, the recom­ (a) whether Government have re­ mendations of the Agricultural Prices duced the extent, of engaging contract Commission and the views of the State labour in handling operations of Governments. Food Corporation of India; (b) While recommending the price, (b) if so, the savings effected; and the Commission takes into considera­ tion the data on cost of production of (c) the number of labour coopera­ individual crops, production prospects tives that have come forward in this and the likely trend of open market regard? prices and also a reasonable margin to the producer. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND (c) Although the Commission does IRRIGATION (SHRl BHANU PRATAP not adopt a mechanical parity app­ SINGH): (a) The Food Corporation of roach, it does keep in view inter alia India have abolished the contract the inter crop price relationships as labour system in 99 depots. they emerge from time to time iir the context of supply-demand situation vf. jP>) There ^ v e been no savings. different cropil 139 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 140-

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1. 'TTcT't 'T'^iT^')- !Trfir «tt 8 3.16 297 . 59 4« 0. GO ^-T V n r 2. w t 5?rt?ITm ^T^TT 5T«TT 8 0.12 440. 00 1100. 00 TW-MfiJ^i «(H1WT 3. f^’TTVT % « ^ *t flitf%cT ^ 5T«n 8.00 250.00 ( = ^ ) 2962 LS—7. 143 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answerg 144

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( ^ ) fsrr -cr^Tf f t spt g r? ^ frrT^r wr3T5rl frr ?TJrr? f tt ^ «At f?m{ if x m vrarrjr ^qr *nit {•sit V R snrrr ftn?) : (^) ^ ( ^ ) . ?r?ri?ff snrr% % ?rrt^n 'i^sn' ^T^fr % i j t t t t t ®5V JTHPTT ? r f ^ ^ !T fW f f lin l l i s r m Jf % iT^ =5rf5fr ^TIT it ir waV («rt Jiffm f^T?) : ^ s?T?-T»i k'n % ir JfrfcT f^cr?rf: ffr’TJT {^). % 5IiTlfqrT |fT -.TTiTf if %r=r7T3rnfr I ffk TTTzj- ?r{^rtT ^ ^rerrwf *tr5> «^jfu wm?: irf^ STFT ?rff | f I I '-TF^nr »jr?r fn»PT % «rr*T *TTfrr ^'t-tf *r ‘J»T "T^=T % «T jt ^ * 28 ?T*F^, 1 978 =r ?TaT'’:T f^ 5T55| % fjr> 3tt grsrrsri % ^r^rr^r, »to 472 6 % orT’’ % »tftJ t IT? ^fTr?f *r 5rr irrr : % ?rrfrf ^rT^ IT^ ^ «ft ; ^ . n : (^) ^ JTf tT^ I % 766 ( ^ ) ^TT ’ST^TT % 'rilT? TitjJT IsfJJTT trftr 'TT^ if T5 lfTl5>fy ; W? fjTJTf % f^:r 771 f o r r «rr; (»r) ^ »r't ?i? I fap »T5JT s r ^ ( « ) 3Tf? rfT 3rr^ ir ^ ^t«r % ^c^ifer I: 145 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 146

( ^ ) TTT Jr ITE7 ^ ( 3:) !Th: ( ^ ) . ?TE!IJT^ JST5T n 71% if «rr^ ?rffrfitk 921 T;!: T -^T jrT,-:^7 ^T< ^Tfr % fsT^ World Bank Assistances for Flood ■■ ;r-Tr i T:frrT ?r"r 5T^ Protection Programme ^{ t 't ?p;=r ^•' ^1 5r| aft srh: sr>^ ^ - :r~ 5T?7r if 77. SHRI VASANT SATHE: WiU the 85 t i i V ’: Minister of AGRICULTURE AND ?'r jff irr I 1972 if ^Ti^r IRRIGATION be pleased to state: % ~rir-:-TR- if (a) whether the World Bank has 3r^^T-T..Tf ^ifsTir ^ ?r^fT promised to consider on high priority basis Indian plea for assistance for a % fr -Tr I Tr^Tr^iR ^ ^r^r if massive flood protection programme; f^irrs ?r I % 921 wvir^nT (b) the details of projects formu­ m 'TK if 622 i^ rrK lated for seeking World Bank Assist­ ?sTf 5't ^riTJrT fsr^rif ance and schedule worked out for negotiation of the projects with the srrffj jtFjt | 477 (^hrc. World Bank; and % I (c) whether any special cell is created in the Agriculture Ministry (*r) 'TfCJTtsRT % ^?TlfeT to expedite formulation and clearance if H5!T s r ^ SPT tFt- of the proposals? ^fWcr vr|f I I THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT (*r) %?jftir % CJTTST if ^?TT SINGH BARNALA): (a) to (c). ^TTimr 5T|f ?ITIIT »PTr I I Government have set up a Working 147 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 148 Group to prepare a plan of action with (d) and (e). The M.C.D. and N.D.M.C, a multi-disciplinary approach to flood have reported that notices under control and formulate schemes which sections 343 and 344 of the D.M.C. Act could be implemented within the and under sections 195 and 220 of the shortest possible period. Their report Punjab Municipal Act respectively are is awaited. After Government takes served before demolition of any un­ a view on the recommendation of this authorised construction. The Delhi Working Group, Government may con­ Development Authority has reported sider approaching World Bank for that notices under the Delhi Develop­ assistance for implementation of flood ment Act are issued before removing control schemes, if necessary. anathorised construction on private land falling within their development areas. For unauthorised constructions DemolitiM of illegal constmetioiis in on Government land, action under the Delhi Public Premises (Eviction of Unautho­ rised Occupants) Act is taken by the Delhi Development Authority where 78. SHRIMATT PARVATHI such constructions are old, but no KRISHNAN: Will the Minister of notices are served in case the un­ WORKS AND HOUSING AND authorised construction on Govern­ SUPPLY AND REHABILITATION be ment land is fresh. pleased to state:

(a) whether it is a fact that the Government has decided to continue % JlSTTftra T T ^ t W.WWf fft demolition of illegal constructions in *n*T w h t Delhi; f T)

(b) if so. whether Government have 79. jfm : fTT I>repared any list of such illegal constructions; fjp : (c) if so, the details thereof and the norms which have been laid to deter­ mine the illegal construction; ( ^ ) ^ ST5T Jr 9TS Jw r- (d) whether sufficient prior notice has been given before administering such evictions and demolitions; and ^ I :

(e) if so, the details thereof? (5 ) nf? 5T, m

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND BBr ^ *rrgrr ^ ^ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT): (a) Yes, Sir. (»r) TT^jft TT 7*1^ (b) and (c). These are booked in the records of the D.DA., M.CJD. and ^ *PTT other field agencies. The constructions which are done in contravention of t > ^ tbe Municipal laws and Bye-laws and the Delhi Development Act and/or are put up unauthorisedly on public land I, ?fr ^ ftw wwf wf I? ate considered lUegaL 149 Written Answers KABTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 150

iftT inft («ft Land (Ceiling and Regulation) Act, 1976 to facilitate construction activity; w Tm m ) : ( ^ ) ^ I and

( ^ ) ?frT (*r). 5r? srwrf^cr (b) if so, facts thereof and when the decision is likely to be effected in Tr^Ti ■PT ^ ?t«tt this regard? ?fM?r spt fti’sr- fT^fr TT iT«RT f^^pTiT ^ % THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ ^ t 5Ti?^n % cT^ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR Tc « r? 7 m i w r ^ BAKHT): (a) No, Sir. w r#s^ *ptt ’!Tr:— (b) Does not arise.

ftWT

81. flRTHST«\ o : i?RK : 40,000 — ^TT fsw i, H*rrar jfirjim wh: 5fT?TT’'Tr 2,500 — ir^^r fw> :

fffHNH ST^T 1 9,000 — ( ^ ) ^ 5f.^i fsrf^Ta % f?riT ?r<:^ tt 51’’t 5f'i? fs.^i Jnsitn 217 — JTiT^ I ; •TiTT^ 8,000 — ( ^ ) rfr ^ ^ ^ TT^31T«TPT 7,000 — Jf ftrrfrH ^ ;

^TT^5T>5fr 50,000 — (sr) m j f w r ’TfJT^^'irH 50,000 45,000 ?reiiT 5 0 0 ^ ^ Jr 5Tk

fars^fY 2,000 — ( ^ ) irfe sT^f, farr § ?

f5«TT, v v v m wVr wfirfiT JT# (»To SIcirT ^ : (^) sr^5 f?i^l ■=,T’T ^ 2 RqtMl of/Ameii»iiM»t «o Urban (CeiOag & ReguUtion) Act 1978 ^'r !Tr'T»r I ;

80. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAK- (w) ^ (^). ^ % Will the Minister of WORKS AND ( 1978-79), HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION be pleased to state; ftRTi % ?r^«m 15-35 15 '’n^ fn"~snc ift$i vT vnfv^ (a) whether Government have decided to repeal or a^end the Urban ^ V} % I V:< 151 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers I5Z Non-erndiliic of Sncarcane by Sugar Mills in Private Sector ^ ’ PTT t ^ Jf ?iT»TT^: 30 sfra ’•Tcff 5rnj*r i 83. SHRI M. KALYANASUNDA- RAM: 5ft? ftrerr %?s ?

%ftr THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ( g ) irfe JTrsRTfspH- MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRATAP ftn r ^*iRT *17; ?r^ I ??^7: SINGH): (a) to (c). As on 15-11-78. 82 ^ ^ HT»RT i m ? sugar factories (including 18 in the Private Sector) have started crushing, as against the 80 factories (including 5 wk ftRnf *Tert («ft 15 in the Private Sector) during the last season. No specific facts have been ftrjj »THmi) : (^) ?rk (g). brought to the notice of the Govern­ 3R5rrftT ^ T ^‘t ^ ir fTOt ment to suggest that the rest of the factories are waiting for more conces­ «3^‘t ^ tr^ 5pT 5?v vrm I, sions before starting crushing. How­ gfroitir 5T^?T if ^ r ever, as the Government is anxious to »rl 15f\T ^ TT^ifi ensure early start of crushing of sugar­ cane, the Sugar Undertakings, Taking it T rpTTT 3rr?rffr ;3^- over of Management) Ordinance, 1978 jrr5fJTT *1 150 ^ ‘Tf ^ STH19 mWT : ?T5ff Tfr I arjfsp i7fn ftm ^ w k ijrrrm ?r«n 'S[f?r w 'K ^ vTcrR^td ?Riim ^ vnrfH zTir fTTr ?re*T !Ti«

%?r % f'r^ei^'T^r ^ »n»r (t ) 1971 % ITIT^T-qiJP ^ m 3fni*iT I % «ftrr*T trfipsm 'TrfSp^ft Ir TTSi^iH” 153 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 154

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2 9,512 3,553

TfTT 55,231 17,664

(>f) 5T?:T I Inter-National Year of the Child

1 2 2 .9 5 r-fpf ?(T»RT 85. DR. VASANT KUMAK PANDIT: >TT >TirTTcT^ 15 74 trf7:“r:f % Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE ^ C[sp 7T3TnT 2 5 -1 0 -7 8 !PT- be pleased to state: iTTf?^ »r| I I STTTTT I TT ^ ^-TT'^ ?V'^T f^Tfrai qtl % ST'^ Ta) whether it is a fact that the TfT^Tt ?«T?TT 'TT Inter-National Year of the Child— lYC 1979 is to be celebrated through^ iqif fe n ^nrTTT I rT^ out the country; i^TT t . v r j ^ . ?TrfT ^ 5,600 'TTt^TT % % (b) if so, what specific schemes, plans and implementation programme %>-T 8 0 0 . 12 vfT’a spt n;^ jftSfnT have been planned by the Department 1 6-1 1 -1 9 7 8 ^'T ^TiTjfTfe^ ^rr ^ to cover the destitute children, the handicapped and the women in the I I T T ^ ’^rTTTT ?rr?rT ^Tcft I Of above schemes; ^5 , 197 9 q fr^ T T?: Iff jf f?(T 3rTT5 I ■ ' r (c) whether any scheme has been evolved for participation in the Gov-^ Tn)^«irfi qfTifT^nTT if 3000 ernment plan by independent social welfare organisations, voluntary 'Tft^rCr % SfSTT ifT^T Agencies, the village Panchayats and fw^rTTJftfT I I other organisations; and 155 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 156 (d) what targets have been fixed (iii) Women: The programmes b y the Government for each State in for the welfare of vromen include the country to make the International training in child care and nutrition Year of the Child 1979 a full success? functional literacy classes, r^ahila mandals and opening of niore creches for chi/dren of working THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE women. MINISTRY OF EDUCATION. SOCIAL WELFARE a n d CULTURE (SHRl- (c) Cooperation of social welfare MATI RENUKA DEVI BARA- organisations, voluntary agencies, the KATAKI): (a) Yes, Sir. village panchayats and other organisa­ tions is imperative and has been ("b) The National Plan of Action for sought for the implementation of vari­ the observance of the International ous programmes envisaged in the Year of the Child has been drawn up. National plan of Action, especially in It includes, among others, programmes the fields of child health, immuniza­ for the welfare of destitute children, tion. nutrition, environmental sanita­ the handicapped and women: — tion and drinking water supply, pre­ school education for weaker sections, The programmes are: — elementary education, mobile schools, (i) Destitute Children: The pro- community education, etc. The Plan grammts for the welfare of desti­ also provides operational guidelines on tute children include provision of the role that may be played by volun­ institutional services like orpha­ tary social welfare organisations. nages and non-institutional services (d) No targets for achievement at like foster care. Other program­ State level have been fixed. mes envisaged are enactment of Children’s Acts in the Stales v/hich Level of Water in Bhagirathi do not have them, uniform exten­ sion and coverage of the Children 86. SHRI DINEN BHATTA- Act services all over the country CHARYA: Will the Minister of AGRI­ so that no chilji is sent to prison CULTURE AND IRRIGATION be for any offence. The institutional pleased to state: sarvifes as contemplalod in the (a) whether Government are aware Children Acts are also to be ex­ that most of the rivers in West Bengal panded a^d developed on the bpsis specially Bhagirathi (Ganga) are of certain minimum standards. silted due to non-availability of pro­ Voluntary welfare agencies wf>ulrl fuse water in the rivers and lack of be encouraged to play their role in the implementation of the necessary 40 thousands cusec water Children Act services more act­ for Bhagirathi which is one of the ively. causes for recent incidents of inunda­ tion in West Bengal; and (li) Handicapped children: The programmes envisaged for the (b) if so, w hat Governm ent are welfare of the handicapped child­ thinking to meet the demand to pro­ ren include provision of pr^ and vide for 40 thousands cusec water in primary school education along Bhagirathi even after thig national with normal children in regular disaster? -schools; preventive programmes; THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE health check-up to detect handi­ AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT caps at an early age: integrated SINGH BARNALA): (a) The sitting education and vocational training in the lower reaches of Bhagirathi ifli regular schools; training of (Ganga) is due to natural causes. hefldth workers; and gtudies on the However with the construction aeowdrements of luMdicapped of Parakka Barrage, additional children. water is bein^ let into the 157 Written Ansviers KARTIKA 29, IftOO (SAKA) Written Answers 158

;jnT?TT JTT.TnT % «TT5 Bhagirarthi river to maintain the river cs c c regime. The additional water made JT5T ^T'fTn- ^'f S J I ^ I n ff | I available, is according to the agree­ ment reached between India and Ban­ gladesh. The recent wide-spread in­ ( ^ ) ?•: ^KT spTf sr??rT3r undation in West Bengal is an account I 1 of unprecedented heavy wide-spread rain fall. Regularisation of Unauthorised (b) Does not arise. Colonies in Delhi

88. S W I BEGA RAM CHAUHAN: Will the Minister of WORKS AND Jr w ftw rn HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION be pleased to state: 87. : (a) the number and names of un­ WT wwrm ?WT |f?r w h authorised colonies proposed to be regularised during the current finan­ jf ir r.( cial year; : \h) the rate at which development fee will be charged from the house­ ( ^ ) owners;

5irfer : («P) (b) No final decision has been taken. 26 if 8 5Tr^ I (c) and (d). Padam Nagar and Bagh Kare Khan already stand regularised under the Corporation's re-develop- (w) % tr c (»r) ment scheme of Sarai Rohilla Area as ^TT^Tt^ft ?rifeT # sgfTOnj a Slum Improvement Scheme. The East Moti Bagh will be regulM*ised ^3’TH»Br n-ff I I ^ after the question of ownership of' land *f«Wfr ITT ^ I %f*P? ^ in this area is decided. 159 WHtten Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Ansioers i6o

LIST OF 50 COLONIES CONTEMP­ 35. Sanwal Nagar. LATED TO BE REGULARISED DUR­ 36. Sant Nagar. ING 1978-79 BY D.D.A. 37. Prakash Mohalla (Garhi) Name of the Colony 38. Amrit Nagar Colony (Kotla SI. No. Mubarakpur). 1. Hari Nagar ‘G’ Block. 39. Gobind Puri Exten-^ion. 2. Shiv Nagar. 40. Jogabai Extension. 3. Virender Nagar. 41. Ashok Nagar. 4. Shiv Nagar Extens.oa 42. GafTor Nagar. 5. Hari Nagar ‘A’ Block. 43. Noor Nagar. 6. Hari Nagar *B’ Block. 44. Dr. Zakir Hussaii Colony. 7. Hari Nagar ‘B and E’ Block. 45. Batla House, Jamia Millia. 46. Shyam Nagar. 8. Hari Nagar ‘M’ Block. 47. Amrit Nagar and Extn. Village 9. Hari Nagar ‘M and S’ Block. Garhi. 10. Hari Nagar ‘C’ Block. 48. Prem Nagar. 11. Hari Nagar Clock Tower. 49. Kundan Nagar on Palparganj. 12. Lajwanti Garden. 50. Jyoti Nagar and Extf^nsion 13. Janakpark an.*^ Extension. 14. Hari Nagar ‘J’ Block. 15. Krishana Park on ^'^ajafgorh Literatare for Adult Education Road. Proflrramme 16. Krishna Puri on Najafgarh Road. 89. SHRI DHARM VIR VASISHT: 17. Shanker Puri on Najafgarh Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE Road. be pleased to state: 18. Fateh Nagar Extension on Jail Road. (a) whether it is a fact that subs­ 19. Lajwanti Garden Extn. tantial percentage of literature prrinted for the National Adult Education 20. Gupta Colony. Programme was in English; and not in 21. Saw^an P ark Extension. the locally spoken languages; if so, 22. Rani Bagh. reasons for the same;

23. Hind Nagar. (b) the nature an d quantum of 24. Rishi Nagar. literature printed by the Central 25. M ehendra Park. Mini.stry in various spoken languages vis-a-vis English; and 2G. Raja Park, Shakurbasti. 27. Sant Nagar, Shakurbasti. (c) the stress laid on specific moti­ vational aspects of the N.A.E.P.? 28. Rani Bagh, Shakurbasti. 29. Sh3kurbasti. THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 30. Bharat Nagar near Friends SOCIAL WELFARE AND CUT.TURE Colony. (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- 31. Gobind Puri near Kalkaji. DER): (a) No, Sir. Most of the litera­ 32. A rjun Nagar. ture for National Adult Education Programme has been prepared in re­ 33. Krishan Nagar. gional languages and in certain cases 34. Gautam Nagar. even in locally spoken dialects. I6l Written Ansioers KABTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) WHtten Answers 162

(b) The Ministry of Education has THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE produced materials mostly relating to MINISTRY OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL policy and planning and this has been WELFARE AND CULTURE (SHRI- brought out in English and Hindi. The MATI RENUKA DEVI BARAKATA- promotional materials i.e. posters and KI): (a) Yes, Sir. folders have been brought out, besides English and Hindi, in 11 regional lan­ (b) According to the information guages. furnished by the Delhi Administration^ the main principles governing these (c) In order to look into the motiva­ transfers are as under: — tional aspects of N.A.E.P. a Committee (i) the teachers who have complet­ of the National Board of Adult Educa­ ed 3 years or more in rural schools tion has been appointed under the have been transferred and posted in Chairmanship of Prof. Ramlal Parikh. schools near about their place of This Committee has submitted an in­ residence; terim report. An effort is being made to create an environment which would (ii) the teachers who have not so motivate the instructors as well as the far rendered service in rural schools learners. The mass media and the Or have rendered service in rural various sections of the country’s lea­ schools for a period less than 3 dership have helped in this. Besides, years, have been transferred and the different aspects of motivation are posted in rural schools having re­ being kept in view in training pro­ gard to the total period of their ser­ grammes, in preparation of teaching vice in urban schools. and learning materials, and in orga- nisatioji of adult education activities. However, male teachers aged 45 years or more and female teachers Mass Transfer of Teachers in Delhi aged 40 years or more and the teach­ ers who have been declared unfit for rural service by the Medical Board 90. SHRI PIUs TIRKEY: Will the constituted by the Administration Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL have been spared from rural post­ WELFARE AND CULTURE be ing. pleased to state: (iii) the teachers who have been (a) whether Delhi Administration going to distant schools for a period have received a number of represen­ of over three years or to schools tations against the mass transfer of situated at inconvenient places from teachers in Delhi recently; the place of their residence have now been given relief under the *Trans- (b) the criteria adopted in transfer­ fer Policy’ by way of their postings ring the teachers; in their residential zones or conve­ (c) whether the teachers having a nient places with the sole objective service of three years or less in a of rationalisation of the postings particular school have been transfer­ place having regard to the residence red w^hereas the teachers with service of the teachers. more than 10 years in one particular (c) Jn view of the provision in the school have not been transferred; Transfer Policy for rural posting on (d) if so, the num ber of teacher? the basis of total period of stay in ur­ with less than 3 years service in a ban schools, period of stay of a teacher particular school transferred and the in a particular school for 3 years or number of teachers with ten years or less is neither relevant nor a part of niore service in a particular school not the criterian laid down in the Trans­ transferred; and fer Policy. (e) the reasons therefor and how (d) In view of the reply to part (t), this injustice is going to be rectified? question does not arise. i 63 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 164

(e) In view of the above reply to ffir fftr fwinf («ft gnfto part (c) question does ;iot arise. How­ ever, a Review Committee under the Rff WT?rmt) : (^) ^ (^). Chairmanship Additional Director of -:?r | stf^ Education, Delhi Administration has

92. SHRI GANANATH PRADHAN: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUFPLY AND REHA­ 91. 9RT BILITATION be pleased to state: ffw iftc ^ 5(77% Sfft (a) the number of applications re­ : ceived by Govem'ment during July to October, 1978 for allotment of (^r) % ?Tffr?T general pool accommodation of types % nPT ^ ^B’ and *C* in Delhi; ^ 7 ^ 5fr (b) the year-wise break-up of prio­ % ^ TTT % TTfrg rity date applications received for ^!TT=ni ^f ^ each of the categories;

(c) the total number of quarters of »rnr tPiiTTfssniT tyi>es ‘B* and ‘C’ (area-wise) likely T 5T?;g % *T6Tr^'O o ?T$f I zrfy THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ ^ ^ ^ t ^rl'T HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR ^ f ^ r T ir BAKHT): (a) and (b). The informa­ fS w r ^ r r r l; tion is not available at present as all the applications received are in the process of being sorted out. (»r) ?fhc % ?Tpr ^f^cr (c) 3,000 type ‘B’ and 5,500 type ‘C’ quarters are likely to be completed by 1W5T «R ^ ^ %(H 1980 in Timarpur, Hanuman Road, 5 1^^ % fVcf^i f^Tr^T DIZ area, Lodhi Road, Dev Nagar, f i w ^ T?T ^% itT Aram Bagh, Badarpur-Mehrauli Road and Mohamadpur village. imrfiFT jr-T ^fp: %ar^fr ^ aijfer IFTT ^ ^ t ? (d) No specific date can be indioated. 165 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 166*

Procurement of Paddy by F.C.I. (*r) nf? ?fr ffnrW t v

93. SHRI NARENDRA SINK: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: wI t m*rT?T w h (a) the total quantity of paddy : (fr) purchased by the Food Corporation of India upto the end of October, 1978; war H (b) whether it is a fact that the purchase this year is much below the Vp'n ^'t rfiHT target fixed; and ^ I ^ (c) if not, facts thereof? n7?TT TK k Vlf % tfpft ^'T I I ^'T f 3 R THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE I: MINISTY OF AC’ tRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRT BHANU PRATAP sffc-T *TT!3:i m ffi?r it | i SINGH): (a) 21.f)4 lakh tonnes. Out m 5infaf^ ^?ft- of this 12.70 lakh tonnes relate to 1977- 78 kharif and rabi crops and 9.24 lakh f w I ?Tri: tfT: fnlrfira' tonnes to 1978 khnrif crop. fjff % \

(b) and (c). No target has been fix­ ed as paddy is purchased under price (m ) (»r) ; qT5r?iT support operations. However, the pro­ # jn r ^ ^ ^ I I ?r%fr ^nif curement of 9.24 lakh tonnes this year sT^ ftwT iT5 upto the end of October is much higher than the procurement of 2.28 lakh ton­ ^TT3fHT JTlfaapTft 31TT ?J5Ti7tf??r nes for the corresponding period last ^'T I ?ftT f e # 5T?T5T spf year. f^rftnrt ft 11

94 . TT*nft 5TRT yT«T : ^ 95 . w>tt: ^ fim hi fifirfor a ^ r w ntm ?fmwVrgn^rf’ir »iV?: m w ra g s i ^ ^ f»TT :

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59- ^ 8 ^'T srrfo irfTo 60. -76 ?m so^mTT^^'r 12 jft^T ^ 6 ZH «inT?rT ^^fl' 61. fw ? qr?: ffTranT^T <;f^r «ff ; 62. 3firtT 5^V (*r) ^ t 5 6 3. v-T^T ?t»p : n*Tf:T?Ti ^T ^ ' - 6 4. 3fr?p: =^rfTifi ^T srftreT’JT | ; 6 5. (^r) fJTT f^lT %i\K 5T ^ 66. f*f^ TT^'Tify % ?T T j ^ w-[A\ % fe q 67. Sr^TV Sri'?T 68. TTT^^, ^ 'H 'n , 7 2. 5i3fT^ nT<: ;rr^ i'^ , i*rCT, 7 3. qrirjT jtotttjtt , >^r ?t*tt ^rirfr^T % fr=r^ VTrdfwi : ~ 5r tt^TiRn k 1. q fr I JTrThrc, f trT fT«rr f^fe^TT ^ ST^ if 5T5;T5i ^ I 2 . ( g ) ?T>?: (^i) ; ^ 3. ?fr?? crfs^ #irr^ 15 ?rVr?ff % ?>r**T 5 4. ^ftTiiTifr ^ tot 1 (cmr) I

(^j) 3fV n |f I Jinm Tf?ifir % w?rlf % Cost of production of Raw Jute

96. r m ?TTT«r: bptt 97. SHRI L. L. KAPOOR. Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IR- f:fir

(c) whether Government are aw are compared to the estimate of the Go­ of any criticism against the Director­ vernment of West Bengal given in ate and the methodology adopted by the Report of the Committee on it for ascertaining the true cost of Public Undertakings. raw-jute production: and if so, the (ii) The Staff of 30 field-men, details thereof and the remedial steps four computors, four field supervi­ taken to rectify the shortcomings? sors, one Assistant Statistician, One Field Officer and one Officer-in- THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ charge working on cost studies, who TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI were involved in the collection of SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA): (a) data in West Bengal, is inadequate Data in regard to cost of production of for the study, and the remuneration raw jut e including cost of agricultur­ paid to Officer-in-charge of the al inputs in the current year are being study is low; and collected. (iii) There is excessive delay in (b) The figures of cost of produc­ bringing out cost of production esti­ tion of raw jute for the States of mates. West Bengal, Assam, Bihar and Orissa for the years 1974-75 to 1976-77 are A considerable part of variation be­ given in the enclosed statement. Field tween the cost of production estimat­ data for the year 1977-78 is presently ed under the Comprehensive Scheme being received from various centres and that given by the Government w hile studies for 1978-79 are in pro­ West Bengal arises from difference in gress in the field. concepts about the cost of cultivation. The whole design of the cost of pro­ (c) Yes, Sir Criticism against the duction studies, sampling techniques, methodology adopted for ascertaining staff needs and time schedule for data cost of different crops has been voiced collection and processing, were laid in different forums. The following down by a group of experts when the main points have been made in the scheme was started. However, in Eignth Report of the Committee on view of the suggestions being put for­ Public Undertakings; ward, it is proposed to set up a new Expert Committee to review the con­ (i) The cost estimates of the cepts, methodology and other related Directorate is abnormally low as aspects of the scheme.

Stm tem ent

Cost o f Production of Jute in Assam, Bihar. Orissa and West Benzol during 1974-75 ^0 * 976-77- (In Iks. per qoistal)

State 1974-75 1975*76 1976-77

AflBam 89^99 110*64 Under analytic.

Bihar 100 * 71 116*24 Not c^dfcd,

Orina 77*13 ioi*i 4@ Not covered. West Bengal i i 6'47 130-69® y 8-37@ 173 Written Antwert KARTIKA 29, 1900 (5AKA) Written Anstoert 174 ']

Delhi Schools dMltMrlnf flood affect­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ed People THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION. SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE 98. SHRI S. G. MURUGAIYAN: (SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVi BARA- Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SO­ KATAKI); (a) to (c). The requisite CIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE information is being collected from the Delhi Administration and will be be pleased to state: placed on the table of the Sabha as (a) whether it is a fact that some early as possible. Of the schools were utilized for pro­ viding shelter to people affected by flood in Delhi;

(b) if so, their num ber; 100- ; w r (c) whether it is also a fact that ftwi, flum VFfW iftr during this period schools remain JTf SicTTn ^ ftrr ^ ‘fr ftT : closed affecting studies of students; and

(d) if so, the steps being taken to ^ )trT% complete the prescribed courses? 5TTT Jr THE MINISTER OF STATE IN fjpJr 3TT?t % wirn THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI BARA- ( w ) ^ wrr cirrn KATAKI); (a) Yes, Sir. % ^ SfTTHcT % f5r<^JT ^ (b) (i) 53 Schools run by Delhi sfiT *rqr I fsp sTtffffrTnr jn*T5rr ?fo Administration; 442/74 4-^ % (ii) 36 schools run by Delhi 13, 1972 «TTTT 21 ( l ) Municipal Corporation; and % I Ilf? ?T, (iii) 5 schools run by N. D. M.C. fn^tiT % !Tf?r spt fq T

(c) Yes, Sir. I; (d) Remedial/Extra classes will be (>r) 3iTJmT?i organised to make up the loss of stu­ >sfr >T?fr9 f??? 3fTiTK3iT^ spt f liT % dies. ?TT^T'^ «rt?5T-'T^sri'^ f?rr ?rh: Use of Delhi School Premises as Jails («r) irf? ? t, eft TT 99. SHRI S. G. MURUGAIYAN: ^ I ? Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: ftWT, (a) whether the Delhi Administra­ iTjft (»io sr?rm t o w>) ; (^) % tion has used school premises as jails (?r) : «ft 5 fTir^r^H «f t F ? n iT for a short period: 16 1978 IPT tsr, ^ (b) if so, the details thereof; and ;TT52W % f

^ tiT^TT *1TT ic) whether material was purchasec) by the Department if so, nature and 1942 it 5PJT m wk 1938 value of material ptuhaaed wlM* Jt fsTWrfetri^TiT ther tenders were invited for supply ^TT'»Tqt fnim f e n * m '<^\ i of material; and VIT VIT % iCT'C^5 (d) whether authorities have ^own inflated figures and such a huge «T«ft cTTT *T^Tn «l?ft amount has not been actually spent on ^ I '^sr w t repairs of temples and monuments; if VTWTT ffT fp^frT TT «RrT fPlTif so, whether Government would enquire into matter and if not, reasons there­ % f?f<^, *nrr « it i for? ^'t f^JiT I ^ THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, fK fr JThf^*^ ifr SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CpANDRA CHUN- f%uT <»[, ir w 8 « P I^ , DER. (a) and (b). No repair works 197 5 4 ^'i through the agnecy of contractor were iT^Tn ^ rH t % f?Tti f^JIT «T1 undertaken during the year 1975-76, 1976-77 and 1977-78. In addition to an­ f^-rB(fq?i,5rT ^', fii'm vt' nual maintenance, the work relating Sifr it 5K fJTJTq V f ^ 3 ?lfi5=f to the putting up of barbed-wire fenc­ sft I fstHT KTnrifftur k ing around the archaeological area at Hoshangabad was taken up during feiT «rr % ^ ^ 1977-78 at a cost of Rs. 6,390.35. No fJT^JT ?T5f 5W im r f?srf?r ^‘r 9nTq “« r tender was invited and the work was done departmentally. :Ji7 P I ?T*fT T? i f ! f r (c) Cement and barbed-wire requi­ I I red for the Hoshangabad work were Bcpalrini' work in Hoshangmbad Dis­ obtained from the departmental stores trict at Sanchi. The following items were purchased by inviting quotations: 101. SHRI HUKAM CHAND KACH- M. S. angle iron Rs. 3,1007- WAI: Will the Minister of EDUCA­ TION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND Sand .. Rs. 150/- CULTURE be pleased to refer to the Stone Chips 10mm... Rs. 300/- reply given to Unstarred Question No. 5305 on 3rd April, 1978 regarding (d) In view of what is said above, maintenance of temples of Gupta the question does not arise. period and state: (a) names of contractors who un­ srisT v t TO fiswrf « f w iw f m dertook repair works and nature thereof On which an amount of 10 2. ^ ^ Rs. 2,263.65, Rs. 4,187.70 and Ps. f rq wh 51^ ifTsrnT 5,023.45 was incurred during the years 1975-76, 1976-77 and 1977-78 respec­ % *1^T5T6T % 5TT^ if 1 3 tively in Hoshangabad Madhya Pra­ ITT^, 1978 % srariTtfcr SSn ?twt desh, whether tenders were Iri^^d 2645 % t *rfr siarn for giving thes« oaotracts; if so^ value of each tender and ^m es of t^ d e r^ ^ fTTr % : parties; (f?) ^ sr^ ?fmr ^ (b) whether any of the work waa ITT3WT % ftfltiT 4 jirfr? tT- done Departmentaliy if so, detaila thereof; sr^mfvr % fipirr ( «) jrf? ft, m W TT5IT THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE f«p?TffY jrn-

ffi? wVt f ^ f *»»> («ft gnftn (ii) in areas where prohibition is ft»5 W ^ m i) t (wr) not in force, the tribal people should be allowed to prepare their own be­ fn ^ T l jfT3|-nT?(i % r^fl^ ^tv^ 5T%9T verages for individual and social *ITTTT % 4 ^ 'i T ^ 't'^ •’Tftr % f^TT purposes, but not for comercial pui:- poses, whenever traditional practice ^I'rf ?r^ tm k Ct f ’^fr I i prevails. (>i) (»()• (^) (iii) intensification of educational Tj ftr 5PK fT efforts amongst the tribals against the evil effects of drinking; Prohibition policy for Tribal sub- (iv) encouragement of social plan areas workers and voluntary organisa­ tions for undertaking the task of 103. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: education work for prohibition. Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SO­ CIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be (b) The State Governments at its pleased to state; tenth meeting of the Central Prohi­ (a) the prohibition policy adopted bition Committee held on 27 Septem­ by the Government of India for the ber 1978 accepted the policy and resol­ tribal Sub-plan areas of the country; ved to take measures to implement it. (b) the States which have so far (c) A statement is enclosed. implenaented thg policy guidelines in (d) Government of India have de­ tribal areas; cided to compensate the States to the (c) the liquor shopg closed down extent of 50 per cent of the establish­ by the States in tribal areas and loss ed loss in exise revenue resulting of revenue iYicurred and the number from introduction of prohibition com­ Of liquor shops remained for aboli­ mencing from 1978-79, treating the tion in the areas, Stafe-wise; and actual excise revenue of 1977-78 ag the (d) Central assistance provided for base. This offer covers the tribal the loss? areas also.

Statement

S No. State Total number of Excise Revenue shops aboli.'hfd (Rs. in lakhs)

__ 3____

1 Andhra Pradesh Nil Nil

2 A.ssam , 7 Shops Inforiuation not rcccivcd. 179 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers i 8o

3 BlhdT . 407 shops ia districts 1975-76 where tribal popu- 1976-77 366*57 lation is more than 50%. 4 Himachal Pradesh 35 Shops. 15 00

^ Karnataka There if no tribal area.

6 K-rala . • A uniform policy has been followed throughout the Sute withoit making any distinction between tribal and noti-tribal areas.

7 Madh>a Pradesh 5J2 liquor shops Rs. 4-5 crorcs. have been clos^.

8 Maharashtra . 3 shopi. Information not recei- v’cd.

9 M:?ghaUya Information not rece­ ived.

10 Manipur Nil Nil

11 XagalanH Nil Nil

12 Orissa . 270 shops ha-^e been 90-00 abolished in tribal areas since 1974-75•

13 SikVim . There is no tribal area.

14 Rajasthan The tiibal area is under total prohibition .

15 Tripura No liquor ihops in tribal area.

16 Uttar Pradesh 28 liquor shops abolshed. Rs. 14,16,008

17 West Penjjfal . No liquor shops abolished yet.

18 Haryana

19 Punjab . There is no tribal area.

20 Jammu 8c Kashmir

2 1 Gujarat 1 The States arc under total prohibition. 22 Tamil Nadu .

Badanallah Irrigation Project, irrigation of project in the Koraput Koraput district of Orissa State upto 1978-79. year-wise; 104. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE (b) for how many years the pro­ AND IRRIGATION be pleased to ject remained for clearance for exe­ state: cution with that State and at Centre; (a) money spent for survey and (c) the reasons for the delay by investigation of Badanallah Medium the State; and i8i Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 182

(d) steps taken by the State and purposes, the project should be con­ Centre for early execution of that sidered as a major project since the project as it comes uncfer tribal sub­ height of the dam is almost the same plan area of that State? as per the original report of January, 1974 under which the original CCA THE MINISTER OF AGRICULT­ was more than 10,000 hectares. Ac­ URE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI cordingly, the State Government were SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA): (a) requested by the Central Water Com­ The expenditure incurred year- mission in September, 1977 to comply wise on survey and investigation of with all the requirements of a major Badanallah irrigation project upto 1973 project. This is still awaited from the 79, as reported by the Government of State Government. Orissa, is given below: (d) The Badanallah scheme has been included by the State in their tribal Sub-Plan. The State Government have indicated that the original site selected for spillway has now been changed and drilling for foundation K nj)' t < ) exploration is being done on the new M.-rrn. site. They have further intimated that the detailed project report is D.rinp 1074-75 44,(.()(, under preparation and is expected to be ready for submission to Central »07V7^' 5 Water Commission by March, 1979. !(,7r.-77 »or) n.coo '977-7^> Proposals for Irrigation Projects from I 07f'-7*') ' UDfn J 'IDc, 7II' 4 Orissa

105. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO: (b) and (c). The project report of Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Badanallah Irrigation Project as a ma­ AND IRRIGATION be pleased to jor project was received in Central state: Water Commission from the Govern­ (a) the medium and majop irri­ ment of Orissa in January 1974. The gation projects taken up by Govern­ comments of the Commission on the ment of Orissa for survey and investi­ project were forwarded to State Gov­ ernment in July, 1974, November, 1974 gation, included for execution aicid sent for clearance to Government of and January, 1975. Subsequently the India from 1977 to 1978, particularly State Government requested the Com­ for the irrigation in tribal sub-plan mission in October, 1975 to treat this project as a medium project. The areas; and Commission, however, informed the (b) money earmarked by that State State Government that the project and Centre for the years 1977-78 and could not be treated as a medium 1978-79 for irrigatioii projects of tri­ scheme since the CCA was more than bal areas? 10,000 hectares as was given in their project report of 1974. THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI In April, 1977 the Government of SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) 12 Orissa submitted a modified proforma major and 28 medium irrigation report treating the project as a me­ schemes are at present under survey dium scheme. Thia proforma report . id investigations by the Government examined in the Commission and Of Orissa in the Tribal sub-plan area it was felt that, for the all practical of the State: . 183 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Anfiwcrs 184 The projects which are at present THE MINISTER OF STATE IN under execution in the State for pro­ irrigation sector in the State of Orissa viding irrigation benefits to the tribal THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE areas are 3 major namely Upper Ko- PRATAP SINGH: (a) and (b). As on lab, Potteru, and Sunei, and 9 medium 1st October 1978, the Food Corporation namely Kalo, Khadhei, Nesa, Pila- of India was holding a quantity of salki, Hemal, Sarpgarh, Talasara, Ban- about 13.15 million tonnes of food- dhappippli and Kanjhari. grains. Out of this, a quantity of about 52 thousand tonnes of foodgrains was The Government of Orissa have sent rendered unfit for human consumption project reports of 3 major and 1 medi­ due to unprecedented heavy rains um schemes benefiting tribal areas to and floods etc. the Central Water Commission during the year 1977 to 1978. Of these, the medium scheme namely Kanjhari ir­ sugar Production and Disposal rigation project has since been appro­ ved by the Planning Commission and 107. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL RED­ is under execution in the State. One DY: Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ of the major Schemes viz. Harbhangi TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased Project has been examined by Central to state; Water Commission and recommended for consideration by the Technical (a) what is the estimated produc­ Advisory Committee of the Planning tion of sugar during 1978-79; Commission. The other two major (b) what is the stocTc of sugar Projects are under examination by the carried forw ard fro,-n pfevious year; Central Water Commission. (c) what is the likely consumption (b) Irrigation is a State subject and of sugar in the country in 1978-79; funds for execution of Irrigation pro­ and jects are provided by the State Gov­ ernments within the framework of (d) how the Government propose to dispose of surplus sugar? their overall developmental plans. Central assistance to State Plans is given in form of block loana and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN grants which is not related to any in­ THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE dividual sector of development or AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU project. PRATAP SINGH): (a) The first esti­ mate of sugar production during 1978- The outlay for major and medium 79 sugar season is placed around 63 irrigation sector in the State of Orissa lakh tonnes. under tribal sub-plan for the years (b) The stock of sugar with the fac­ 1977-78 and 1978-79 ig Rs. 5.34 crores tories carried forward from 1977-78 and Rs. 8.77 crores respectively. season production was 33.26 lakh ton­ nes. Foodgrains with F.CJ. (c) The consumption of sugar in the 106. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL RED­ country during 1978-79 sugar year is DY: Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ estimated at about 52 lakh tonnes. TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (d) The surplus sugar stocks avail-J (a) what if the quantum of food- able after n^eeting'the requirement for graios with the F.C.I. at preseilt; and internal con^ivnption during 1978-79 r reason will be available for (i) meet­ (b) what is the quantity of food- ing the export commitment in full grains out of above which is damaged under the International Sugar Agree­ and unfit for human consumption? ment, (ii) creation of special stocks I 8< WHtten Answers KAKTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) WHtten Answers 186

under the International Su^ar Agree­ fimrfimnro ^ wwt if irfir ment, and (iii) ensuring adequate carry-over at the end of the season. 1 1 0 . BT : ^JTr Central Aid to Karnataka for Open­ ing Schools in Rural and Backward fsrwT, Areas 5cTr?i f:

(a) how many rehaBHitation camps (if) f^rerr % f?TTt are there in the whole of Maharash­ tra, district-wise; and 5rfr.zrT I I (b) what are the number o^ refu­ 5T?ft5Fr % friT, SJiT^ln gees in each Camp? srrJTTit

th e MINISTER OF WORKS AND 5 u f ^ i HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- ^ ^T, HABILTTATION (SHRI SIKANDAR ffsfT fW 5T«tr % BAiCHT): (a) There are no rehabi­ litation camjJs in Maharashtra. frs 1 88

it ^ 1T5H fipiIT I Plan as whole, without any earmark­ ing for individual programmes. «TT^«rw 3n ^ % w v u Jr (b) and (c). Information is await­ ed from the State Government. m tn T of the programme of universalisation fiRftJi fjfpmr ?t 5fT?ft I I tt of elementary education, in such a f^T I IT^'T Wtm tR f?iWW way that the rural areas, especially disadvantaged and distressed areas, get ?WT W FT m W- ^TRTH ^ SltcT priority. % ftT(^ JHTT^I 5T!nf

Response from State Governments Re. have been received from the various Recommendation of Bhole Commission Ministries; on N.D.S. Instructors (b) if so, what are the details thereof; 113. SHRI R. K. MHALGI: Will the Minister of EDUCATION. SOCIAL (c) what decision has been taken WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleas­ On shifting of Central Government ed to state: Offices; a'nd

(a) since when the Union Govern­ (d) the names of the 'offices which ment are in correspondence with the are proposed to be shifted anj the Government of Maharashtra in re­ places where these are to be shitted? gard to benefits c/f revised pay scales THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND recommended by Bhole Commissicn HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ to the National Discipline Scheme HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR Instructors who were absorbed by that BAKHT): (a) No, Sir. Details are State; still awaited from some Ministries (b) whiit is the nature of response and Departments. of the State Government; (b) to (d) Do not arise. (c) what action Government ot India have taken on the reply of Regularisation of unauthorised Colo­ State Govennment; and nies in Delhi (d) if no reply was received from 115. SHRI K. A. RAJAN: WUl the State Government^ whether they have Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING been informed of the delay? AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ TION be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE ^a) w hether meetings of the imple­ (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- mentation Committee, set up under DER): (a) Since July, 1978. the Chairmanship of Lt. Governor of Delhi to review the progress of (b) to (d). The information called reguiarisation of unauthorised colo­ for from the Government of Maha­ nies were held in 1978; rashtra, has not yet been received. The State Government has been remindei (b) if so, number of meetings held, in the matter. (c) recommendations made in ihis Shifting of Central Government regard; OfRccs from New Delhi (d) whether any time limit has been fixed to complete the process of 114. SHRI DURGA CHAND: Will regularisation; and the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI­ (e) if so, the details thereof? TATION be pleased to refer to the reply given to U nstarred Question No. THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND 1147 on the 24th July, 1978 regarding HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ shifting of the Central Government HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR Offices from New Delhi and state: BAKHT): (a) Yes, Sir.

(a) whether the details of the offi­ (b) So far. three meetings have ce accommodation and the number of been held. staff employed in various Ministries/ I^eptts. and their attached subordinate (c) The details are furnished in offices located in Delhi/New Delhi the Statement enclosed. i9 i Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 192

(d) and (c). As far as possible, the 9. Lt. Governor desired that time survey erf all the colonies located in schedule may be drawn up by the the urban area may be completed by D. D. A./M . C. D. 31st December, 1978. Action regarding regularisation of these colonies 15 tc 10. D.D.A./M.C.D. were requested be taken thereafter. to review building bye laws for unauthorised colonies to a more Statement realistic standard with respect to the permissible covered area of the Recommendations made in the various plots. meetings 1. D.D.A.M.C.D: w ere required to make rought estimates of houses to be pulled down and families/persons affected in providing roads etc. 116 . amr -m 5 rm : f s w r , 2. D.D.A.M.C.D: had to prepare a paper for Executive Council on ?r'r fTTr : fresh encroachment in the unauthori­ sed colonies. ( ^ ) ^ srfvTirr?,-ip: r-,-? 3. D. D. A./M. C. D. were required ^rPTifsKT fi'tipr,- if f?T5Tr it to prepare plans to rehabilitate per­ sons, whose houses shall have to be demolished to make space available Trrr— n T .T 'i JTr>T Trr ?fr ; q-V for civic amenities in the unauthorised colonies. (»f) ^7, T i ir fTTJTqr^r I ? 4. M. C. D. will examine change in compounding fees. firwr, w h weft 5. D. D. A./M. C. D. have to work {XJc : (^ ) out the details of lands to be acquired (?I) : rr 1 for community facilities and L and B Department had to take action for ^ 2 7 f?Trrt«iT, their acquisition under the provisions Df Land Acquisition Act, 1894 and Ur­ 1 97 8 ^'i STTfr ir CTfr ban Land (Ceiling and Regulation) 'TTf^ %JTT lfT?r ^ Act, 1976. «ft ff: TT^JT xrVr 1 :^ 6. Betterment charge at flat rate Jr fnTsr sfrfir «frr wrrq per sq. mt. shall be worked out by TVn % 3fr^ *r the D. D. A. colony wise or for a ¥rrf^5r ^ i nftr group of colonies in similar situation. ftr«Tr f^*Tr»r % t 7. It was decided that monthly re­ f e n *nTr % i ports would be submitted to the Lt. Governor regarding the survey and clearance of development plans by f« q s F(TO!< iftwrnisi the Technical Committee. 1 1 7. »r<* tn r if t 8. Some flats were required to be f«wrl JT? qarfn f tt ft: : Earmarked by D. D. A. for al­ lotting to those persons whose houses ( ^ ) % *^»TT VtT tTHmrjT were acquired for providing civic am-

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% f’T'T ^t«t^ f?TTT ^r I mr ■3^% ?rr^r?i 5wr n»r^ ffr»rJT 193 2-3 3 cT^p 5 'a ^"r ?T*rr^fir | 1 5fT «rrTcT H TfTTT ^ T ^7< T^ | . 7 4,071 >m n 5Tn r^ % f?f(T TT^IT !< r^r^l ^ ffTTTnrm ?T?f, ?rrf? ^ 't sfsr ’^v;n-tr, ?r?frHr«i n^-< ^TTTt 5Tf: 58 0 3 spfr? ^ T ir ^ 't i r f t r i \ | 1 •TPT ?T?T

(»r) ^TTfrrT ^ T T ^ 11 8. «fo Tfffjft fff5 : ^7T f ’TJTfir ?fh: ffsr K T^ srwTHJff jF a irm f ^ q r I ffr ? srr?rT^i ?cTTft f q r : 9f*inT ^f?p ^TJT % ^ f5TR ?

% *TfrT5Tl 5^ *n»r i T1 (e) if so, whether incentive schemes have l>®en prepared and implemen­ ^ T h l I ?T«nr t f I T *TTT’fT % ^ \ n < 5rf% function under competitive condi­ tions. The impact of decontrol prima­ VT K ??i ^ *r<‘^ vv rily depends on the cost of production HTn-nfti ^ € f vr=fr I wV % of each unit and the sales realisation «N i if %iT q-T% ^ % vrr«< it obtains. However, for new sugar factories and expansion projects set ?=ir:T ffvTnT 5f^'f5H I, ? up at high capital cost for which an incentive scheme was in force from December 1975 to make them viable fifuhi wwm Hsart v h a new scheme is being form ulated by Viwts *T?it («ft ); ^ n ’l an inter-Ministerial group, in the light of the changed conditions. T T ^ jfT I ^r.; qr 7ys M. I. G. Flats sold by DDA in Saf- ?r ’iTrrirV; darjungr Enclave and Munirka, New Delhi Incentives for Sugar Industries 121. SHRI RAM VILAS PASWAN: 120. SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ SHRI P. M. SAYEED: HABILITATION be pleased to state: Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ (a) number of MIG flats sold by TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased DDA in Safdarjung Enclave and to state: Munirka in October, 77 and the num­ (a) whether some Chief Ministers ber of applications received fcr these have urged the Central Government flats; and to review the scheme of adequate in­ (b) whether any subsidy from centives for the Sugar Industry so as these flats was included in the cost to ensure that the decontrol decision finally charged and if so, the amount does not render many sugar Mills thereof? non-viable; THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND (b) if so, whether Utiion Govern­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- ment has appointed a high powered HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR committee to consider the schemes cf BAKHT): (a) 107 flats in Munirka incentives for the sugar Industry; and 11 flats in Safdarjung were allot­ (c) whether the decontrol decision ted by draw held on 6-10-1977. has not affected all the sugar mills Applications were invited in March/ equally; April, 1977. According to the then (d) if so, whether the adverae im­ existing policy priority was to be ac­ pact of decontrol has been on a sec­ corded to the applicants wjio were tion of the MillB; ar)d ready to pay the cost in lump sum. 197 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 198

However, this policy was changed in Ayog is expected to submit its report July, 1977 when it was decided to al­ by the end of 1979. lot 50 per cent on hire-purchase basis and 50 per cent on cash down basis To formulate a short-term strategy and these flats were to be allotted on regarding flood control, the Depart­ the basis of seniority of the applicants ment of Irrigation, on the advice of in registration. the Planning Commission, constituted a Working Group to recommend stra­

Aid from International Agency for THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, protection of Ecological Balance hi SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE Himalayas (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER): (a) No, Sir. 124. SHRIMATI PARVATI DEVI: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE (b) and (c). Do not arise. AND IRRIGATION be pleased to (d) The State Government has in­ state: troduced total prohibition in Kumar- fa) whether any help from the sain in sub-tehsil and tehsil Chopal of international agencies like the Inter­ Simla District and Shillai tehsil of nationa] Union for conservation of Sirmur District. The State Govern­ Nature and Natural Resources, World ment has decided to introduce total Wild-Life Fund, United Nations* prohibition in a phased manner dur­ Development Programme etc. had ing four years, in the State by increas­ been received for the protection of the ing the dry-days in a week year by ecological system of the Himalayas year. In 1978-7W, 76 days have been and save the wild life; and declared as dry days. (b) if so, the details thereof? Compensation to States for Imple­ THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ menting prohibition TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) No 126. SHRI DURGA CHAND: Will such help is being received from any the Minister of EDUCATION, SO­ International Agencies like the Inter­ CIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be national Union for Conservation of pleased to state the amount given to Nature and Natural Resources, World each State as compensation for imple­ Wild-Life Fund, United Nations’ De­ menting prohibition? velopment Programme etc. for the protection of Himalayan ecological THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, system. SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- (b) Does not arise. DER): No compensation amounts have 201 Wntten Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Wriimi AmWDl iU

been given to the States. The compen­ h 'm v l I ^ ^ Bwm I 5ITT sation amounts payable start from 1978-79 and are based on actual loss, ^ ’Tt sj?r ?fR which is finally computable after the qf<« % f^cr 3[^ TTT^ft f^sPT*! V'f receipt of actual exise incomes during !f»T# 1 5^ ®r l»rT I 1977-78.

firs^firoiHiT ft ^ nftrfkiit vt

12 8. «it 5TT? Jrran: ^ fSTWr, ?T*TT5f ^i?lTPT sftr «f^TT^' 127. isd 51 t l HmoT f:'TT ^ : itifr 5TS T.^Tf % : (^) ^irr g=5T t fq?^- fsTT'rr^'jr ^ r ^ ' t sr^? ^ifirfiuff (r.) €r s'rff TTffji t f.*T H f rfr SfTTm ^ff?,(T ^q-| ^ i f r ^ ^T IT^.' fss'v’iT marTT^f % sT'fT'f^ fvn tt h'ff\ 'f % ftfCT wM if«Tr farrffiT ^T , q

tv ; ^Tf fT"p; K fn'TJT TT?i‘ ?Tf5rTrTT f5TWT, ?T*TCT V fU m W>C « > f fw *T«Tt f7VT ^ ^ snf'T eifl’ T WT t ? («ioST?rw^?iw?y): (^)f-i^-tnw ^'r TTq'TTTr c,f\tr? gi-

f^w r, 5Tmir ?rtT Haft 5frifT5r ^ ?f- sri'cr ^r■^ ^ 1% (»io a a n fltfi : (t ) f?F=fy fn^ T*7/sTq"a Kftrfn fv?^fq?7TTSfiT wftRTTi TcW fa-if K ^iTtrsp vrv ?f«rqT ' T m'TTfT JTTf’f f.’T K?nT | t STc^f: n ^'TT VTV t s ^ f H t I r.r^r^jTi^fjr m *rfc.-rsr ( ^ ) ^fSTTT ciVT I 1 1 - 3 ( 4 ) *r 5 ^«rr ^T^*PTTt t Ft t ? 5 ra fn jffjf n |f f^cr 5,1^ § I Improvement in quality of Sugar- cane- ’i t ^ n T % ?Ti«rT, 5f iT^ S7??«rr ? % >i.T'Tn TT5f t 129. SHRI A. K ROY: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND % 5iT^t fjffTlI % 't ’TT^n 3f«r IRRIGATION be pleased to state: ^T % ?ftET «FTterrf | HT ^ (a) the average sugar content of % FsTf^q'^T «lft m «TT fir=rTT sugarcane produced in different 3ft ^ States of India, facts in details; ^03 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20. 1978 Written Answers 204

(b) whether there is a distinct (d) Yes, Sir. The Indian Council of variation in the qualities as per the re­ Agricultural Research has a compre­ gions and if so, factors responsible hensive plan of improving cane varie­ ior it; ties in the country and specially for Eastern U. P. and Bihar. (c) how does the Indian cane com­ Improvement of cane varieties is a pare with that produced in Java, Malaya and Cuba; and continuing process. After the initial success in evolving high yielding vari­ eties, the accent has been on the deve­ (d) whether the Government have lopment of varieties adapted to speci­ M y comprehensive Plan to improve fic growing conditions. In recent the cane variety in the country in years, research on the breeding of .general and in Bihar and U.P. in varieties with short maturity period particular and if so, details of it; and which may yield more cane or sugar if not reasons therrfor? per month per hectare than the pre­ valent long or medium duration vari- THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ ties have been intensified. The aim of TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI such research is to make sugercane- SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) In rice, sugarcane-wheat and other crop general sugar content in cone in Maha­ rotations feasible on a larger scale. rashtra and Karnataka is higher as With short maturity varieties, it may compared to Coastal areas of Tamil be possible to take 3 sugarcane crops Nadu, Andhra Pradesh as ^^ell as in 2 years and thereby extend the Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and Haryana. crushing period in factories. The varietal improvement programme is The variation observed in sugar being carried out by the Sugarcane contents in cane varieties (on juice Breeding Institute, Coimbatore in co­ basis) in several states in the country operation with the All India Coordinat­ is given in the statement enclosed. ed Research Project and State Re­ search Stations. Facilities for breeding new varieties at Coimbatore have been (b) Yes, Sir. Distinct variation exi­ augmented. In order to supply ade­ sts in the cane quality of different re­ quate quantities of true seed (fluff) gions. Expression of cane quality is to sugarcane breeding centres in other influenced by weather factors especial­ States a National Hybridization Gar­ ly (i) differences in day and night den has been established at Coimba­ temperature and (ii) rain-fall at the tore. Breeding work is also in progress time of maturity. Factors like red-rot, at Mandya (Karnataka) and Pusa incidence of flood and pests also im­ (Bihar). Recently, Uttar Pradesh has pose limitations. initiated a varietal improvement pro­ gramme at Seorahi (Deoria). In ad­ dition to the efforts of the State Re­ (c) The native cane of Java is search Stations, the Coimbatore Su­ richer in sugar content as compared garcane Breeding Institute has also to Indian varieties but it cannot be been sending seedlings of new varie­ directly utilised for commercial ex­ ties as also some of its germ-plasm ploitation due to its poor adaptability collections for direct testiing at seve­ over the vast and diverse conditions of ral locations in the country. The va­ ^anegrowlng prevalent in our country. rietal improvement in U. P. (parti­ The Indian canes known internation­ cularly Eastern U.P.) and Bihar will ally as “Co-canes” have much better receive further intensification with the adaptability and hence have been used help of new techniques of varietal as base material in cane breeding pro­ testing against red-rot and mass grammes in countries like South screening of seedings in the early Africa and Cuba. stages under cooperative programme. 205 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 206 Statimint

verities P ol % in Ymritws Pol. % in Ju ice Juice

Karnataka Uttar Pradesh Co. 6806 16.68 (fl) Central J^one 17.30 »3-93 Co.S. 510 16.9 16 .19

Co.S. 673 15.8 Co, 419 18 .16 H -37 Co.S. 6 1 1 17.2 1 1 .76

Co. 1148 >r)-7 B .37172 18.76 12.44 Co. I 158 1 f). 3 H. .045 15-58 Co. 1336 if,.6 16.44 16.8 B.o. 54 Co. 62175 >6-73 B. 0. 47 17.0 '3 3 8 (h) Wfstern ^one Haryana Co. 1336 16.9 Co. J. 58 12.8 Co. 1148 1 4 9 Co. 6914 13-i, Co. 1 1 58 J5-4 Co. 114.8 1701 Co. 6425 ir)-7 Co. 1 1 58 13.40 Co. 6812 16.3 C 0 .J.6 7 1722 B. 0. 54 16.3 Co. S. 675 16.68 (c) Eastern ^one Autumn f)lantirt f> Co. S. 1 158 16 .41

Co. I 148 15.0 Co. 6812 17.00

Co. II38 15.6 Co. 7717 17-75

B .o. 17 18.2 C0.J.64 17.70 Co. 395 14.5 to 18.5 Co. 1148

Co. S. log 14.4 to 16 .4 Co. 7309 15.80 spring fdantinp^ Co. S. 718 16.29 Co. 1 157 12 .1 to 16.a C o .J. 58 *507 11. 0. 70 12 .2 to 15.5 Bihar B.o. 72 i3.oto 15.7 B. o. 74 17.66 Maharashtra B. o. 76 16.3a Co. 740 18.66 B. o. 34 *799 775 *9-29 B. o. 88 17.40 Andhra Pradesh 973 17.40 B. o. 89 18 .11

t!o.997 17.98 Co. 6911 17.40 2M 2 L S — 207 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 2o 8

Shri K. A. Pillai, Education Officer, had Varitifs Pol % J u ic t visited this Institute and had expres- sed his opinion that assistance to­ wards salary for two teachers, wooden Co. S. 633 17.44 almirah and books, Hindi type­ writer, building construction may be G >. 1 13^ iS .t given. The opinion was considered by B. o. 17 • ]3 *6.68 the Grants Committee and it has agreed to give Rs. 3,000/- as library B. o. 70 .1 16.98 grant and 50 per cent of the expendi­ ture for the proposed building. Tam il Nado (Coastal arra)

C0.62198 . . . 12.4 Import of Foodgrain .« Co. 6304 . 14 -3 131. SHRI A. K. ROY: WiU the Co. C. 69077 14-8 M inister of AGRICULTURE ANI> IRRIGATION be pleased to state: Co. C. 69194 15-6

(a) the quantum of import of food- grains every year since 1971 and the foreign exchange spent on them, facta Central Grants to Saraswati Sanskrit in details; High School Befnsarai (Bihar)

(b) whether it is a fact that now 130. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the there is enough food stock in tho Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL F.C.I. godowns and the policy of food WELFARE AND CULTURE be plea­ import may be revised; and sed to state:

(a) whether representations re­ (c) if so, steps taken on that? questing Central grant for Saraswati Sanskrit High School, Begusarai, Bihar are under consideration of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Ministry; and MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- TAP SINGH): (a) A statement giving (b) whether it is a fact that a the requisite information is attached. senior officer of Education and Social Welfare Ministry, Shri K. A. Pilley visited the school on this account, if (b) and (c). In the context of the so, what is his recommendations and record production of foodgrains in steps taken on that? 1975-76 and easy food situation obtain­ ing in the country during that period, commercial purchases of cereals from THE MINISTER OF STATE IN abroad had been discontinued from THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION, June, 1976 onwards. Since the posi­ SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE tion of foodgrains stock continues to (SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI BARA- be comfortable, there has been KATAKI): (a) and (b). Representa­ no change in this policy nor any tions have been received Iro m the In­ change is contemplated in the foresee­ stitute and considered in the Ministry. able future. 2o9 Written Answers KABTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 2I«,

Stfttement

r I - .7 . • / M /*'. . / f 11 lyiifis i nl) iriel, their estimated C & F value and estimated expenditure in Jo>e'\(fn exchan €,

'0 ,'iaatity ia ooo tonnes Value in Lakhs ofRgpeest

Vcar Qty. of Estimated Estimated foodgraim. C & F eicpendi- imported value turc la foreign excbs^oge

1971—72 . • . ^ • 1856-5 10645-7 *739*«

73 • • • 697 .a 590i-4 57°7-7 >973-74 • • • 4347-« 35810-1 34'9‘ * <974—75 • • 5448 0 65672-8 56440-5 1975—75 . • 7433-6 104406-3 79745-5 •976-77 • ••• 4964-9 76054-5 55593-I *977—78 • • ••• • 178-6 2533-1 69-4

M K — I . K I ; I ))Vi-i r*cilvci j i l s r PL-4Sd arrangement from the USA, forciga exchange c?cpMditurc incarreJ on account of freight on ♦breign flag vessels as also initial 5% paym-nt whercever it stipalated in the PL-4B0 Agreement(s).

2. In rpg^rd to aid foDi?rains, there ha? been nj forciga exchange expenditure except freight to the extent foreign flag vessels were engaged for transportation.

3. Ta^ q iintities im^Drt^i in 197:^-74 and i97+*75 include 9.08 lakh tonnes and 10 98 lakh tonnes of wheat received from the USSR on loan basis. Im respect ofthese supplies, foreign ^exchange was incurred on account of foreign flag vessels engaged to carry only FOB supplies.

Enquiry into the allegations against (c) whether it is a fact that the Director I. S. M. Chairman, Executive Board is going to be replaced to spoil the enquiry 132. SHRI A. K. ROY: Will the if so, the facts in details? Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be plea­ THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, sed to state: SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- (a) whether it is a fact that the DER): (a) and (b). The Government Government had asked the Chairman, had advised to Executive Board of the Executive Board Indian School ot School to look into the allegations re­ mines, Dhanbad, to enquire into the ceived against the Director ISM, allegations against the Director ISM Dhanbad. The Board appointed a Fact 2nd report b y June, 1978 ; Finding Comittee under the Chair­ manship of Shri L G. Kumaramanga- (b) whether it is a fact that the Jam, Chairman, Executive Board, with enquiry has not yet been done and two other members of the Board as efforts are going to stall the enquiry; members. The Karamchari Sangh of and the School subsequently represented 2It WtiUen Answers NOVEMBER 20; 19VB Written Answers 2lXi

through Members of Parliament to in­ flWTlI clude outsiders also in the Fact Find­ ing Committee. This was agreed to by (^) t rfV^IT't Chairman of the Committee, who in­ 5rf?pfTf*llTT 1 9 7 8 ir ^s|ft vited two of the members suggested by the Karmachari Sangh to serve on the %

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133. ^ (ii) irffS % ffa 5R TW % IT^IJT

w rn i iT f^ T -jT R ^ ' t j . jt if gfc,ui3>:^ f-^f 'TT^ > *TT «TT « f r r i r ^ n ^ 'f (?P) WT t f f 3R 'TT «ft I 5Tf?nfif*roT (iii) ij f^cTTqT % t % fKTTTrr jfnSF ’i n % ir t'tI TT’sr *nrf «fr so it'tio c I ; ^nm n «Tr ) »riTrr w fnfircT (^ j) ^ t', 3TrTT % ^ sriri^T if?: 5V CN %ih lT?5'T-2^ »IJff !T ^ «fr^-«fTfr fqtr^T i.t «fr i (»r) ^ w. ' f t , i t % frfti siTjj ^ a r i f r ^ ®;?r 'T? »|ir I I ? (iv) J1*T IJTNI^I

‘ftiWT, ?w i5i wI t » i ^ (iTo ( ^ ) ?flit ?*I 5ffiT frf^cT # Sfjf! «ft I vffo*r 3ft 7 1 97 8 I 5p JT^ 5‘,-ff K fr fsf.’ifi t gf^jfr ?> *|7TT I ^ fsr^RTir I I % f^T ?TTc*r-f?r f,«ri ^ < ft I (w) U i l i «iT «rftr5T « r i T ^ 5ITT f ^ T f^.iTT 3nit»tT «TlTcfiiT ^ l4 ‘’ fara»ift TT f^ *r Jr vV fwT f^^oin afrfwc. ft it *.i( Z ^ % Z t 1TIT5T TT f f ^ " t € : *Wr5ft «n: qfe h>, c *fT5> * t i t I f I 1 1 3 •yrm tn Aiuvmts K A im K A 29.1900 (SAKA) Wrttten Alwwer* 214

irrcf i3T ^»T ^ ^ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION. f fTf*T % «PT- SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE H 'Tr?rr i (SHRIMATI RENUKA DEVI BARA- KATAKI): (a) At present there is no irrTjft*! m proposal to establish a Kendriya Vi- dyalaya in Ladakh. HT^Prft ^ 5 t?f % ^ tto t ^TKif f=5rf%cHT »ft «>T5r5ar n (b) and (c). No, Sir I ^ ^ ST^'TH spT?f % The Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan 3t*r ^ 5fR «ft 51^ !|fr >it does not take-over any existing school due to inherent difficulties in respect sfT I irFff 3TT^ »T Tf: f^fTTft of the existing staff^ students and ma­ 'S tfr ? j 51JTT 5Tr 'TT?5 n!':? nagement of the previous schools. fT TcTr ?T

«rr 1 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ ^r 5Tf?TeTf: HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT): (a> and (b). Plans for cons­ n?rf I truction of smaller houses for Minis­ ters with about 3,000 sq. feet of living Settings up of Central schools in space, have been prepared. Plans for Ladakh construction of smaller houses for Members of Parliament and senior 134. SHRIMATI PARVATI DEVI: Government officials are under pre­ Will the Minister of EDUCATION, paration. SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be pleased to state: Urban Congestion

(a) whether Government propose 136. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: to set up Central school, in Ladakh to Will the Minister of WORKS AND fulfil the need of Central Government HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ employees and the Armed forces; if HABILITATION be pleased to state: so, the details thereof; (a) whether Government are aware (b) whether Government propose of large scale movement of people to upgrade the Choglamsar Primary from rural areas into towns and cities School to the level of Central School; throughout the country; and (b) if so. whether Government (c) if isot, the reasons thereof? have identified the causes of such a i5 W fittai Aikswers NOVEBIBBR 20» 197S Written Ansvmg 2X&

migration ^hich have led to such culcate in the students the correct cndwiic evils as urban congestion, attitude towards work. The students unemployment and slums; of vocational specturm are expected to receive instruction in the school as (c) whethar Government have con­ well as on the job in the field or on sidered a planned effort toward urban the shop floor. The principal idea is renewal and decongestion; and to bring education close to life and to develop in them a sense of dignity (d) if so, details thereof? for work and confidence to earn their living honourably with their own THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND efTorts. HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR In addition to receiving the right BAKHT): (a) to (d). The cause of type of instruction in the institution, movement of people from rural areas it is the employment potential which to cities is attributed to lack of em­ will hav^e the deciding influence on ployment opportunities in the rural the attitude towards technicians. So areas. The Government are taking long as there are ample employment steps for removing congestion and for opportunities the society looks upon the planned urban renewal through the educational system as usual and schemes formulated under Integrated this gradually brings about a change Urban Development Programme with in the attitudes further. An addition­ emphasis on provision of infrastruc­ al factor that helps in changing the ture in small and medium towns to attitudes %vill be further educational check the drift towards big cities. facilities to improve their careers while in service. Keeping this in view the Government have been consider­ Change in System of formal School ing schemes to provide advanced edu­ Education cation and training through selected institutions in terms of evening, part- time and sandwich courses. 137. SHRI K. MALLANNA: Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SO­ CIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE be CollapM of Unanthorifled Structure In pleased to state *. Pahar GanJ, New Delhi

(a) whether there is any proposal 138. SHRI K. MALLANNA: WiU imder the consideration of Govern­ the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ ment to bring a change in the system ING a n d s u p p l y a n d REHABILI­ of formal school education to correct TATION be pleased to state: the attitude of society towards techni­ cians; and (a) whether it is a fact that some labourers were buried under a four- (b) if so, the details regarding the storeyed building on Raj Guru Road plan of Government in this regard? in Paharganj, when it collapsed on 23rd October, 78; THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (b) if so, whether the construction or repair work going on in the build­ (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- DER): (a> and (b). The term techni­ ing Was uSiauthorised; cian is generally applied to all the (c) whether there are a number of diploma holders from polytechnics and other hotels and buildings which were has been accepted without reserva­ unauthorisedly built in last two years; tions. The very fact that Government and of India have formulated a scheme for vocatlonalisation of education is to in­ (d) if BO, the details thereof? 2 17 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, IWO (SAKA) Written Answers 218

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND me proposed by the University con­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ cerned. The development grants ap­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR proved by the Commission for the Shi­ BAKHT): (a) to (d)*. The information vaji University during the Filth Plan is being collected and will be laid on period are as follows: — the Table of the Sabha.

Item Estimated Grant for Shiva}! University Cost

139. SHRI HUKAM CHAND KACH- WAI: Will the Minister of EDUCA­ 1. Equipment . 23.30,000 TION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CUL- ^TURE be pleased to refer to the reply 2. Books . . given to otarred Question No. 672 on 3. Biiildirps . • 20,00,000 the r 1 April, 1978 recju'cljns Rianis to rjr^v-orsities in M.P. and state: 4. Vi.siiirg Pirl^ul ij. ' 0,CC0 5. professor 7 ic,7t,cco (a) the amount asked for as grant ‘■’fj-.drrs 6 by the Shivaji University and its year- I.rriiM(s 4 wise break-up from 1975 to 1978; Otlifis 6 (b) whether the grant given by the 0.. R(?( aid I'rlk ni. L’T'Fellcw- Government in different years is not sbips adequate; The Commission also approved the (c) if so, whether Government pro­ following proposals of the Shivaji pose to increase the grant in future; University within the Vth Plan alloca­ and tion.

id) the items on which the amount 1. Library Fxtcnsion 3,00,000 to be given is spent? 2. Musnim 65,000 THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, Technical Stajf SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDER) Field Assistant i (a) to (d). The University Grants Field man i Commission does not sanction develop­ ment grants to any University on the 3. Posf-f*raduate Course in Marathi basis of its annual requirements. There Professor i fore, the question of comparing the annual demands made for the years Reader i 1975-76 to 1977-78 with the actual Lecturers 2 grants sanctioned against them or in­ creasing development grants on that Equipment . I0,000 basis^ does not arise. Books & Journals 75jOOO

According to the procedure followed 4. Geography Deptt. . 1,00,000 by the Commission, the total develop­ ment requirements of any particular 5. Staff Quarters . . 2,00,000 University for a 5-Year Plan period 6. Zoology Deptt. (Extension) 50.CC0 are determined on the basis of the re­ commendations of a Visiting Com­ 7. Botanical Garden . , .50,000 mittee ^iiich scrutinises the program­ 8. English 219 Written Answers NOVEBffiER 20, 1»78 Written Answers 2ao

9. D^arimtmio/EAuaiiM : ! ■ R i, (b) The estimates of production dt (i) Professor 1 different oilseeds (including rabi oil­ seeds) for 1978-79 would become avail­ (ii) Readers 2 able sometime after the close of the agricultural year. However, according fill) Lecturers 3 to preliminary reports concerning area (iv) Building . '2,00,000 and weather and crop conditions, the production of kharif oilseeds in the (v) & Journab . . 50.000 current year is likely to be higher than (vi) ETJipn'ntO • '50,000 last year. (c) The State Governments have Grants are actually released by the been requested during the regional Commtesion against the approved allo­ meetings and otherwise for giving a cation, depending upon the progress of high priority to development of oilseeds expenditure on various items and that production. An Intensive Oilseeds De­ antid^ted during a particular year. velopment Programme has been taken Besides the development grants up involving (i) adoption of package approach in selected districts of im­ mentioned above, the Commission also portant oilseed growing States where provides assistance to Universities for the production technology has been Student amenities, publications and in well developed and potentialities for the form of unassigned grants accord­ rapid growth in production are good. ing to the norms prescribed by the Particular emphasis is laid on the use Commission. of improved varieties and ensuring op­ timum plant protection, application of phosphatic fertilizers and control of Oilseeds Prodootion pests; (ii) extension of irrigated groundnut area particularly in the 140. SHRI R. MOHANARANGAM: Southern States; (iii; extending the Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE area under non-traditional oilseeds like AND IRRIGATION be pleased to lay sunflower and soyabean by introduc­ a statement showing: ing cultivation in current fallows/mul­ tiple cropping systems. Intensive Oil­ (a) the magnitude of oil seeds pro­ seeds Development Programme is being duction during the last three years implemented in 29 districts in the in each State; States of Andhra Pradesh, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra, Karna­ (b) production anticipated during taka, Tamil Nadu, Punjab, Uttar Pra­ the current year; desh, Rajasthan and Haryana. Under this programme, central assistance is (c) the precise steps taken for im­ being provided to meet the cost of proving oil seeds production; and production of breeders and foundation seeds and its distribution. Subsidies (d) the anticipated impact of such are also being provided for crop de­ s t^ for effecting improvements in monstrations, plant protection equip­ its ou^m t? ment and chemicals and for supply of mini-kits to popularise use of new oil­ THE MINISTER OF AGRICULr seed crops/varieties. Specific develop­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI ment schemes for sunflower and soya­ SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) bean are being implemented with pro­ A statement showing State-wise esti­ visions for assistance for seed produc­ mates of production of oilseed (five tion, demonstrations and distribution major oilseeds viz. groundnut, sesa- of mini-kits. Minimum support prices mum, rapeseed and mustard, linseed have been fixed lor certain oilseeds. and castor) lor the three years 1975- Recently, the Government announced 76 to 1977-7B is enclosed. considerable step up In the minimum 3 2 1 Written A ntw ers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) WHtten Answers 22a

support prices of groundnut, soyabean and sunflower as under:

(Rs. p^r quiatat)

Crop Minimum support price for marketingfleason 1977-78 •978—79

GroanHnut 160 >75 Soyabean 145 175 Sunflower . . . . 165 *75

(d) The targets of area proposed to {Hi) SunHower Divelopment . 4-50 be achieved during 1978-79 under the Centrally sponsored schemes for oil­ (tv) Soyaliean Development seeds development are as follows: 3-56

(Lakh hectares) As a result of the above, the pro­ duction of the above referred oilseeds (0 Intensive Oilseeds Develop- 23*55 is proposed to be raised to the target­ mcnt Programme ed level of 108 lakh tonnes in 1978-79 as against nearly 95 lakh tonnes in (it) Extension of Oilseeds to New Irrigated Areas 3 • 72 1977-78.

r V'7j7''’y o f 11: tinn n f total five mijnr oilseeds i973-7r>, 1976-77 and 1977-78. (Thousand tonnes)

Slate >975-76 >976-77 1977-78

I 2 3 4

Andhra Prad'^ sh 11a6g•fit 649*0 io 83'3

Assam 70 * 6 68-5 8 o *7 Bihar 124-3 104*2 101*4 Gujarat . 2172-7 2073-I IQI4-9 Haryana 79*4 78*7 97*6 Himachal Pradr^h 9*0 5*5 5*5 Jammu & Kashmir . 28- 9 30*4 30-4 Karnataka 7II-5 416*6 720*7 Kerala 27.2 22*0 32-3 Madhya Pradesh 793*5 513*2 585-2 Maharashtra 7fi7'5 706*0 6 9 2 * 6

2* I 2 * X » 3 Written Answers NOVEliffBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 224

Meghalaya • . 8-6 4*3 4*e

Nagaland . ft • • • 0*9 0*9 I'D

Orissa • 259- 7 205-9 246- »

Punjab • 2Gi> * 9 2C2-3 232-9

Rajas thaiTi 343*3 416* 2 Tamil Nadu u lH - 7 1 *54-7

Tripura * J 33 3 4 Uttar PradrsJi . 1 i^t'3'8

• • 77*5 58*7

Uni»>r Tf'rrit • • 7-0 4 4 4*4

A L L IX D T A . •• o,9io* .j 7

More Fnrcliasini: Centres dorini: Kharif Season (c) and (d). Available State-wise in­ formation on purchase centres set up is given below:— 141. SHRI KUMARI ANANTHAN: Statt' ^\i/. i'fpUKha\/:tifitrfs Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE t vp AND raRIGATION be pleased to state: B\- St;ilr (it)\ 1.

(a) whether the Food Corporation I. Purjah 1 ',4 400 of India is planning to set up more 2. Haryana purchasing centres during the Kharif season in Andhra Pradesh; 3. Uttar Prad«^sh . loo 100 (b) il so, how many centres w ill 4. Madhya Pradrsh ♦ ■— 6t be opened; 5. Rajasthan • — *39

(c) whether Government have plans 6. Wrsi Brnpal ♦ . — 2,700 to open more purchasing, centres in other States; and 7. Tamil Nadu 25

(d) if so, in which States and the 8. Himachal Pradesh — 16 number of centres of purchase through F.C.L? 9. Pondirhfrry — I 10. North Eastrrn States THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and Union Tcrritorirs J"— 25 MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- (•F C I acting as the nolr procuremrnt TAP SINGH): (a) and (b). Food Cor­ agrncy of Statr Govfrrnicnt.) poration of India has set up 44 pur­ State Governments have indicated chase centres in the first phase. 90 that they have no plans to set up moi:e more centres are projK)sed to be set purchase centres, Food Corporation of up in the second phase. The total India, however, propose to set up 51 number of purchase centres are pro­ centres in Assam and 2 more in Tamil posed to be gradually increased to 200. Nadu. 325 WritMn Atm strs KABTIKA 2», 1000 ^SAKA) WHtten Answers 226 DaaaaUtton la TiuHilaaabad, Delhi Sector have encroached UPOn the public land and put their kitchen 142. SHRI RUDOLPH RODRIGUES: gardens there; SHRI VUAYKUMAR N, PATIL: (b) whether they have sought per­ SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN: mission of the authorities of occupy­ SHRI JANARDHANA ing public land; POOJARY: (c) if not, the steps taken or pro­ SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN; posed to be taken to get the public SHRI JANESHWAR MISHRA: land vacated; and DR. RAMJI SINGH: (d) whether it is proposed to hold Will the Minister of WORKS AND the welfare Association of the resi­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ dents of the area responsible for such HABILITATION be pleased to state: encroachments? (a) whether proper and adequate notice was served prior to the recent THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND demolitions in Tughlaqabad, Delhi; HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- HA BILIT ATION (SHRI SIKANDAR (b) the number of houses involved BAKHT): '^0 Yos, Sir, in some cases. in the demolition plan; and (b) No, Sir. (c) the scheme, if any, for resettle­ (c; Action is being taken as provid­ ment on alternative sites? ed in the Allotment Rules. THE iMlNISTER OF WORKS AND (d) Residents’ Association cannot be HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ held responsible as the encroachments HABILITATION ^SHRI SIKANDAR are done by the allottees themselves BAKHT): (a) Notices under section at their own responsibility. 343 and 344 of the D.M.C. Act were issued by the Municipal Corporation Provision of Sewe^ Facilities ia of Delhi for demolition of buildings Pitampura Residential Scheme,. put up in violation of the Municipal Delhi laws and Bye-laws. However, no no­ tices were issued by the Delhi Deve­ 144. SHRI SHIV SAMPATI RAM: lopment Authority for removal of en­ SHRI DALPAT SINGH croachments from Government land as PARASTE: these were of a very recent origin. SHRI KACHARULAL HEM- (b) 186 houses and 96 boundary RAJ JAIN: walls were demolished by Delhi De­ Will the Minister of WORKS AND velopment Authority and the Muni­ HOUSING a n d s u p p l y AND RE­ cipal Corporation of Delhi took demo­ HABILITATION be pleased to state: lition action in 332 cases. (a) the progress so far made in (c> There is no such scheme. providing the sewer facilities to plot holders in Pitampura Residential Encroachment on Public Land in Scheme who have built their houses D. I. Z. Area, New Delhi in R/P Block; and 143. SHRI SHIV SAMPATI RAM: (b) in case there is no such facility SHRI DALPAT SINGH so far, the reasons therefor and when PARASTE: some arrangement for the sewerage Will the Minister of WORKS AND is likely to be made for them? h o u s in g AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION be pleased to state: THE MINISTE51 OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ (a) whether it is a fact that ground HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR *oor flat occupants in D.I.Z. Area, BAKHT): (a) and (b). AH intemat * 7 Written Ansu^ers NOVEMBER 20, 197B Written Antwert 228

sewer line work in block R (Poorvi) by DDA except a length of about 100 has been completed. Tenders for pe- mts. which is to be laid across West­ ripberial sewer line work have been ern Jamuna Canal. MCD is likely to received. The wcwk is expected to be complete this work in about 4 months* completed in about a year after it is time. awarded. To provide immediate relief to the residents, some arrangements Pitampura by pumping etc. are being made to The work of laying water supply permit sewer connections to the indi­ lines, internal as well as peripherial, vidual plot holders. in old acquired Pitampura H-5 part is complete. The work in the area Trovisicm of Drinkingr Water Facilities where group housing pockets have in Pitampum and Shalimar Bafh been subsequently converted into Residential Scheme, Delhi plotted area is in progress. Temporary water supply is likely to V)e available 145. SHRI SHIV SAMP ATI RAM: in early 1979. SHRI DALPAT SINGH PARASTE: SHRI KACHARULAL HEM- RAJ JAIN: 46. srW t qrarfV Isft : ^ Will the Minister of WORKS AND 1 HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- ftreri, HABILITATION be pleased to state: ^ Trr f-qr (a) whether the drinking water PfT : facility has been provided in the Pitampura Residential Scheme and ( ^ ) fTfig (3fOT Shalimar Bagh Residential Schemes ?ftT jfTPTf fnTT of the DDA; srV:? ir , (b) if so, when; and (c) if not, the reasons for delay sTrsi ^5crf5rf'T and when this basic facility of drink­ % fTTiT rr^ ^.Tff STT ing water is likely to be provided TfV I'n rfT ?Ts f f in there? 3TT ?T»fr jfr?: ^'T T'TT'^rr THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ ; ?fr»- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT); (a) No, Sir. ( ^ ) ^r, ?TT (b) Does not arise. (c) The position is as under: — f?T«TT, rm t Shalimar Bagh Block A and B ( tto am T ) : ( ^ ) ( g ) . ^ TT3f-JTg?r % All the peripherial as well as inter­ % sfTT srrrT^irr !rf;ar»T nal water mains in the entire original plotted development area have been ’sjcr ?fTT laid. The work of laying pipe lines ^v:«T'»r in the area where group housing po­ ckets have been subsequently convert­ ST5TH ^Tn % TS^rcl ^ ed into plotted area is in progress. tryf ^ srsrfjrfT % ftrcr g a t ?«Tlf^r5T MCD has laid their main lines right ^up to the overhead tank constructed ^ ?T»rr*r q r f ^ r T ftarr ant^»rr \ 229 'Written Aniwers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Angers * 230

Yftcmtloii Of Kapiirthala House and (c) whether the Union Government Travancore Hoose of the are aware of the scope of the deve­ encroachers In Delhi lopment of cocoa cultivation in India and its potential as a future export­ 147. SHRI GEORGE MATHEW: able item; and Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ (d) will the Union Government re­ HABILITATION be pleased to state: consider its letter dated 27th March, 1978 to the Kerala Government? (a) whether it is a fact that after repeated requests from the Kenala THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ Government over the past decade, TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI the Union Government has not vacated SURIIT SINGH BARNALA): (a)» the Travancore house and Kapurthala Yes, Sir. House compounds in Delhi of en­ croachers and handed them back to (b) The scheme for the development the State Government; of Cocoa envisages cultivation of Cocoa on 25,000 hectare as on intercrop in (b) when will the two plots be coconut and arecanut gardens during handed back to the State Government; a period of seven years from 1978-79 and at an estimated cost of Rs. 71.332 (c) what are the steps taken for lakhs. The Government of India has speedy implementation? no plans to take it up immediately as a Centrally Sponsored Scheme. THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND (c) Yes, Sir. HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR (d) The Government of India is al­ ready assisting the State Government BAKHT: (a) Yes, Sir. for establishing an 8 ha. cocoa seed (b) and (c). Unauthorised squatters garden under the Centrally Sponsored in Travancore House have been offer­ Scheme and sanctioned a sum of ed alternative accommodation by the Rs. 3.138 lakhs for three years from D.D.A, in resettlement colonies and 1976-77. With regard to further assist­ asked to submit their applications. ance since the pattern of Central as­ Delhi Security Police is to vacate bar­ sistance for various crop development racks in the compound of Kapurthala programmes, during the next Five House only after its own building is Year Plan is yet to be finalised, the constructed. question of reconsidering the Union Government’s letter dated 27th March, Cocoa Cultivation in Kerala 1978 to the Kerala Government does not arise. 148. SHRI GEORGE MATHEW: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Writing off Short Term Loan Granted AND IRRIGATION be pleased to to Cultivators sta te : 149. SHRI GEORGE MATHEW: (a) whether the Central Govern­ Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE ment have received a letter dated 27th AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: February, 1978 from the Kerala Gov­ ernment for the development and cul­ (a) whether the Union Govern­ tivation of cocoa; ment propose to reconsider the stand (b) what are the specific proposals taken by it^ not to write oflP the short and whether the Central Government term loan granted to cultivators for will take it up immediately as a Cen­ the purchase and distribution of agri­ trally sponsored scheme; cultural inputs during the period of 231 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answer$ 232

natural calamities in September, Act and these were clarified by issu­ 1977; and ing guidelines to them. A summary of the important guidelines is annexed. (b) whether the Central Govern­ ment propose to accede to the State (e) G ujarat:—23.14 hectares. Government’s request since the Karnataka;—14.15 hectares amount is as Total:—278.61 hectares. and (b>. No, Sir. (f) Implementation of the Act is Implementation of the Land Ceiling watched through four Regional Act by the States Committees for Urban Land Ceiling which include representatives oi 150. SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHE- State Governments. Periodical returns KHARA MURITY: Will the M nister are also obtained from State Govern­ of WORKS AND HOUSING AND ments. jg SUPPLY AND REHABILITATION be (g) The Act does not apply to Jam­ pleased to state: u mu & Kashmir, Kerala, Nagaland and (a) whether it is a fact that many Sikkim. In Tamil Nadu, a State Act of the States have not so far imple­ viz., the T.N.U.L. (C&R) Act, 1978 mented the Land Ceiling Act; is in force. In the remaining States and the Union Territories the Central (b) if so, what are the main rea­ Act is in force and necessary actioM sons for not taking any action; under it is being taken. (c) whether the Union Minister Summary of important guidelines had recently clarified certain objec­ under the Urban Land Ceiling Act tions raised by the State Governments; issued to the State Governments (d) if so, w hat w ere the objections ( 1 ) Section 2(g) of the Act pres­ and how they have been removed; cribes the maximum extent of land (e) what is the land obtained so appurtenant admissible to a building far by the State Governments under as 500 sq. metres. In the case of re­ th is Act; sidential buildings, an additional ex­ tent of 500 sq. mts. of contiguous (f) what steps are being taken to land is admissible. It has been de­ see that the act is implemented by cided that even in the case of dwel­ the States expeditiously; and ling units which are under construc­ (g) the names of States who have tion on the appointed day (28-1-1976) not initiated any action so far? the additional extent of contiguous land should be allowed.

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND In the case of non-residential and HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ residential multi-storeyed buildings, HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR as the land appurtenant measuring BAKHT): (a) No. Sir. 500 sq. mts. will not be adequate, It (b) Does not arise. has been decided that the land appur­ tenant as admissible under the build­ (c) and (d). No objections were ing regulations for the convenient en­ xaised by State Governments who, joyment of the building may be allow­ however, from time to time, sought ed by granting exemption under sec- clarifications on the provisions of the t ’on 20. 233 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 234

(2) It has been decided that if va­ each member of the society does not cant land or property is held jointly, hold vacant land more than the ceil­ each co-owner can hold vacant land ing limit. upto the ceiling limit and that the co-owners should not be jointly treat­ (8) It has been decided that even ed as a “person”. if land acquisition proceedings have been initiated under the Land Ac­ (3) It has been decided that the quisition Act, the proceedings under periphery of an urban agglomeration the Urban Land (Ceiling and Regu­ in one State should not extend into lation) Act, 1976 may also be initi­ the boundary of another State. ated with respect to the same land It has been decided that the en­ with a view to vesting me excess tire Thana Urban agglomeration in­ vacant land in the Government. cluding its periphery should be treat­ Thereafter, the land equal to the ed as Category ‘D’ notwithstanding ceiling limit retainable by its owner the fact that a portion of that urban should be acquired by continuing the agglomeration falls within the periphe­ proceedings under the land Acquisi­ ral area of the Greater Bombay Ur­ tion Act. ban agglomeration. There is no objection to the ac­ (4) Land on which construction had quisition under the Land Acqusiton commenced after 28-1-76 but before Act of land in an urban agglomera­ 17-2-76 in accordance with the ap­ tion to which the Urban Land (Ceil­ proved building plans will not be ing and Regulation) Act, 1976 applies. treated as vacant land. Such a build­ Much depends on how urgently the ing will be entitled to land appurte­ land is needed. If the requirement is nant as per the Act. urgent and cannot wait till the land vests with the Government under the (5) A servant quarter or out-house Urban Land (Ceiling and Regulation) situated in the compound of the main Act, 1976, there is no objection to building will be treated as a sepa­ use the land Act. I^owever, the cost rate dwelling unit and will be entitled aspect should be given due considera­ to contiguous land not exceeding 500 tion before acquisition under the sq. mts. but no separate land appur­ Land Acquisition Act is resorted to. tenant is admissible. If the buliding contains one or more servant quarters (9) State Governments in public each and every servant quarter will interest may exempt lands which are not be entitled to separate additional entered in the land records before contiguous land than that allowed for 28-1-76 as being used mainly for agri­ the main building. culture and are being actually so used even if they are specified in the (6) In order to encourage group- Master Plan for a purpose other than housing, it has been decidcd that in agriculture subject to the condition the case of Delhi, the vacant land that the land is not transferred or held by a person for group-housing the use is not changed. should be exempted under section 20 so that the laid can be utilised for (10) There is no objection to a grouphousing in accordance with the charitable institution selling the land Master Plan or Zonal Plan of Delhi. for the purpose of utilising the pro­ ceeds to promote the objects of the (7) If housing co-operative societies trust after obtaining exemption un­ have entered into agreements for der section 20 from the State Gov­ ^ Purchase of land from private per­ ernment. sons before the commencement of the Act, such agreements can be register­ (11) Persons holding vacant land ed after obtaining exemption under in excess of the ceiling limit includ­ section 20 of the Act provided that ing land for an industry come under ^35 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 236^ the purview of the act. A person converted to commercial use net more wanting to retain the vacant land than five years before the commence­ in excess of the ceihng limit for ment of the Act). an industry should apply to the State Government for exemption. (16) Persons may hold vacant land Exemption will be granted taking in excess of the ceiling limit for into account the present and future construction of dwelling units for the requirements of the industry. Vacant •weaker sections of society after ob­ land upto 1/2 acre in Category ‘A* taining permission under section 21 urban agglomerations and 1 acre in subject to the following conditions: other urban agglomerations can be (i) not loss iiian 50 per cent of exempted as a matter of course. The the total number cf dwelling units exemption is subject to the condition constructed should have a plinth that the exempted land will be put to use within the prescribed period area not exceeding 40 sq. mts. The and that it will not be transferred balance can have a plinth area be­ tween 41 sq. mts. and 80 sq. mts. other than for the purpose of obtaining a loan from a financial instituion by (ii) the construction of the dwel­ mortgage. ling units should be completed within five years from the date of (12) Exemptions may be granted permission by the competent autho­ to the vacs^nt land in excess of the rity. ceiling limit held by the coloniser sc that the land after development (iii) the dwelling units shall be may be transferred to the individual sold by outright sale or hire-pur- customers as per agreements execut­ chase or shall be let out on rent to ed with them. the weaker sections of society.

(13) The State Governments may Where the dwelling unit is sold by grant exemption to vacant land in e x ­ outright sale, the sale price should cess of the ceiling limit for the pur­ not exceed the sum consisting of the pose of construction of godowns for actual cost of construction of the the Food Corporation of India for dwelling unit and the amount he a temporary period covering the pe­ would be entitled under the Act to riod of contract with the Food Cor­ the land occupied by such dwelling poration of India which may be ex­ unit and the land appurtenant, if the tended by one year. vacant land is deemed to have been acquired by the State Government to­ (14) Exemptions may be given to gether with a sum calculated at the excess vacant land in public in­ rate of fifteen per cent On such cost terest on a consideration of the lay­ of construction and such amount. out plan of the area, its environment, its aesthetic quality or its substan­ Where any dwelling unit is sold on tially built up character provided hire-purchase such person shall be that it is not transferred or put to entitled in addition to the sale price, any other use. interest calculated at the rate of ten percent per annum on the unpaid (15) Exemptions may be given to portion of the sale price. land earmarked for commercial use obtained from government or semi­ W here any dwelling unit is let out^ government agencies subject to the the rent shall be worked out so that condition that the land is not trans­ the person will get a return not ex­ ferred (provided that the land has ceeding ten per cent per annum on> been obta’med for commerci'al use cr the sale price of the dwelling unit. 237 Written Answers KARTTKA 29. 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 238

(iv) Beftween the date of permis­ ludlaii Infltltiite of Advanced Stndr^ sion and date of completion of the Simln dwelling units, no transfer of land is permissible. 151. SHRI SUGATA ROY: (17; There is no objection to demo­ SHRI RAJ KESHAR SINGH: lish an existing building in an area Will the Minister of EDUCATION, to redevelop the area together with SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE the excess land, after obtaining exemp­ be pleased to state; tion under section 20, provided that the redevelopment is in accordance (a) whether his attention has been with the Master Plan or Zonal plan drawn to a report in *India Today* of the area concerned. Vol. Ill No. 20 to the sad state of affairs in Indian Institute of Advanc­ (18) Instructions have been given ed Study, Simla; to the competent authorities to deal with notices regarding transfer of va­ (b) if so, w hether Government are cant land within the ceiling limit ex­ investigating, the truth of these re­ peditiously and that if the transfer is ports; and not by way of sale, v/ithin three days (c) what steps are being taken to So that the registration relating to revamp the institute? such documents is not delayed. Similarly, regarding built up pro­ THE MINISTER OF EIDUCATION, perty situated in urban or urbaniaable SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE land, permissions should be given by (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- the competent authorities in cases DER): (a) Yes, Sir other than for sale within three days. (b) and (c). The Government had appointed a Committee to review the (19) There should not be any de­ functioning of the Indian Institute of lay in sanctioning building plans for Advanced Study, Simla in September, buildmgs on vacant lands within the 1977. The Committee had submitted ceiling limit. For this purpose, an its report in which it had recommend­ affidavit and an indemnity bond have ed that if the Institute has to con­ been prescribed. tinue, its character should be chang­ ed and the objectives revised. The Building plans on vacant land in report is under consideration of the excess of the ceiling limit may also Government. be approved provided that the cons­ truction is restricted to the extent of land the person can hold upto the New Item s "D.M.S. Facing Sl

(b) if so, the details and Govern­ ment from the State Government ment’s reactions to the allegations; Agencies/Co-operatives and j (c) The Government has recently reconstituted the Management Com­ (c) whether any measures have mittee of the Delhi Milk Scheme un­ been taken by the Government to put on track the management of der the Chairmanship of DR. V. Kuri- DMS? an, Chairman of the National Dairy De­ velopment Board/Indian Dairy Cor­ THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ poration. The new Management Com­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI m ittee of the D.M.S. is taking seve­ SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA): (a) ral measures to improve the work­ Yes. Sir. ing of the D.M.S. It has recently ap­ proved a proposal for the extensive (b) the allegations are incorrect. renovation of the entire Central Dairy The position is briefly indicated be­ complex of D.M.S. at an estimated low: cost of Rs. 1 crore. This will improve the efficiency of the Central Dairy. (i) After 2nd May, 1978, when the price of D.M.S. milk was in­ creased, there has been some fall in Calamity in West Bengal for the sale of milk by the D.M.S. How­ discharging^ of W ater from ever, fall in the sale of milk by Barrages in time D.M.S. has almost been off set by 153. SHRIMATI AHILYA P. PAN- increased sale of milk by Mother Dairy. GNEKAR: Will the Minister of AG­ RICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be (ii) Consequent upon the diver­ pleased to state: sion of some of the token holders (a) whether Government are aware to Mother Dairy, the sale at some of the milk booths was reduced that due to not discharging, water timely from barrages on the rivers and running of these booths was is one of the main causes of the re­ not considered economical. Accord­ cent national calamity caused by ingly, the supply of such depots has floods in West Bengal; and been merged with the nearby de­ pots and these depots have been (b) if so, the reaction of the Gov­ closed. ernment thereof?

(iii) There has been heavy re­ THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL- turn of unsold milk in DMS. The TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI report that D.M.S. is incurring a SURJIT SINGH BARNALA),: (a) loss of Rs. 1.80 lac per day on this and (b). The inundation due to floods accoimt is incorrect. during this year in West Bengal was due to heavy widespread rainfall (iv) The price of toned milk has with a maximum of over 400 mm. been revised with the previous ap­ during a twenty four-hour period and proval of the Government of India. consequent high flows in the rivers and drainage congestion (v) It is not true th at the D.M.S. has reduced its purchase of milk. The existing storage reservoirs in Qn tlie contrary, D.M.S. is going to the area, like those of the DV.C. have purcliase larger quantity of raw been effective in moderating the peak milk. With a view to encouraging flows. On the other hand, barrages do co-op€rativisation, D.M.S. has de­ not have storage capacity to exercise cided gradually to replace depart­ any appreciable effect on moderating mental procurement by procure­ floods. 241 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 242

Allotment of lanu to College Societies 5. Venketaswara Colleger—15.00 Ac­ in Dhaul^ Knan, New Delhi ^ res

154. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH (b) Only the area allotted has been MALIK: changed in the case of Serial Mo. 1 •'k 3. SHRI RAGHUBIR SINGH BIRK: (c) and (d). No, Sir. In fact Rao Tula Rcim College Society had paid SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: a sum of Rs. 1,42,500 as cost of land SHRI SHYAM SUNDAR measuring 14.5 acres originally allot­ GUPTA: ted to the College, Society, but sub­ DR. SAROJINI MAHISHI: sequently consequent upon reduction SHRI PIUS TIRKEY: in the area to 10.00 acres, a sum of Rs. 22,500 was to be refunded. But Will the Minister of WORKS AND instead of refunding this amount, the HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ D.D.A. has adjusted the refundable HABILITATION be pleased to state: amount against the amount of ground rent due from the society upto the (a) area of land originally allotted period ending 14th January, 1978. to the college societies in Dhaula Kuan Even after adjustment of the refund­ area in New Delhi according to lease able amount of Rs. 22,500 a sum of agreement; Rs. 56,746 is still to be recovered from the College Society towards the (b) has this allotment of land and ground rent upto 14th Januar>»^, 1978. the purpose for which specific areas were allotted been changed during Sharing of C auvery Waters year of 1976-77; (c) whether it is also a fact that 155. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH Rs. 1,12,500/- which is due to the Rao MALIK: Tula Ram College Society has not SHRI G. M. BANATWALLA: been refunded to the College Society SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN: on account of this surreptitious change in the allotment and use of the area DR. SAROJINI MAHISHI: allotted by D.D.A. to the Society ori­ Will the Minister of AGRICUL- ginally; and TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased (d) if so, the reasons thereof? to state: (a) whether any meeting of Chief t h e MINISTER OF WORKS AND Minister of Karnataka, Tamil Nadu HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ and Kerala States were held during HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR the month of October, 1978 to discuss BAKHT): (a) Allotment has been the dispute relating to sharing of made to the following college societies Cauvery Waters; in Dhaula Kuan area in New Delhi and their area as per lease agree­ (b) if so, w hether any progress was ment is also indicated against each. made in the meeting to settle the dispute; and 1. Rao Tula Ram College Society—10 Acres. (c) whether any role was also played by the Central Government 2. Hastnapur College (Delhi Admn.) and if so, the details thereof? —9.87 Acres, 3. Ram Lai Anand College—10.5 Ac- THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ xes. TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA); (a) 4. S. D. College—12.31 Acres. Yes, Sir. 243 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 244

(b) and (c). Three meetings were Plin for Contra ol Floods convened by the Union Minister of Agriculture and Irrigation in August, 157. SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR: September and October, 1978 with a view to having the understanding re­ SHRI C. N. VISVANATHAN: ached earlier by the States in August, 1976 ratified so that it could be Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ implemented without further delay. TURE a n d IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (a) the estimate of the damage As the talks proceeded, it was seen caused by floods in financial aid that there was no common ground pliysical terms during this year as based on which a satisfactory settle­ compared to last three years; ment could be reached. Tamil Nadu objected to the understanding on the (b) the magnitude of the calamity ground that it was reached at a time in the first four worst affected States; and when there was no popular Govern­ ment in the State. Tamil Nadu also wanted that its ayacut should be (c) the reasons for failure to con­ protected adequately by ensuring cer­ trol nature’s fury in spite of our tain releases from Mettur and not by technological advances? effecting definite savings from its THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ own existing uses. TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA),: (a) The estimate of the damage caused by floods in financial and physical term s during 1975, 1976, 1977 and Conversion of Lease Holds into Free 1978 as reported so far by the States HoMs iP Delhi is given in Statement. (b) The Magnitude of the calamity in the first four worst affected States 156. SHRI R. L. P. VEHMA: Will during this year as per reports re­ the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ ceived so far from the State Govern­ ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI­ ments is also given in Statement. TATION be pleased to state: (c) Floods are a natural phenome­ non and even with the best of efforts, (a) whether a decision has since it is not economically feasible to been taken to convert the lease hold provide complete protection to all system in Delhi into free-hold; and areas and to cater for all contingen­ cies. The flood problem is a com­ plex one involving technical adminis­ (b) if so, the details thereof, and trative, environmental and socio-econo- if not, the reasons for delay? mic a«i)ects, and there are interna­ tional implications in the case of THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Himalayan rivers. It is not amenable HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ to any ready-made solutions as it en­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR tails a lot of investigations and col­ BAKHT): No, Sir lection of data, etc.., for preparing com­ prehensive and integrated schemes, which in turn require large outlays (b) The decision will be takeiii after and time for execution. Flood control considering all its pros and cons. The measures to the extent possible are process takes time. Hence the delay. being carried out within the avail­ 245 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 246

able financial ‘resources. The amount been afforded to 9.3 million ha. out spent so far an flood control is Rs. 633 of an area of 25 million ha. which is crores and reasonable protection has vulnerable to floods.

Statement

Statement of Flood Damage in the country from 197*) to 1978

SI. Year Area Popula- Damage Damage Cattle Human DimEge Remarks Ng* affected tion to to lost lives to in lakh affected crops houses Nos. lost public hectares in lakhs Area in utilities lakh Nos. N-s. in Rs. hectares lakhs

I 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

I- 1975 6i -5 313*5 3B*5 793704 >7345 685 i66(-o* 0 2. 1976 178-9 505*2 76-8 1745501 80057 >374 20151-9

3 >977 i6 8 - I 445-« 7«-9 ^540357 292920 9«48 33211-8

4. 1978 ^55*74 671-25 92-3 3f<23454 216504 2284 Lairsl figures rv. t available

Statement of Flood Damage during 1978 in four Worst AJfecicd States.

State Up to date Figures as Reported by the States

1. Bchar 22- 36 120* 00 9-36 223000 466 160 7513*0

2. Haryana 7-05 1 1-50 4-87 7483' 2637 42 249-50

3. Uttar Pradesh. 73-36 224-94 39-26 1197552 73S/9 733 Latest fig­ ures not available

4. West Bengal 30-00 152-00 13-28 19044 I I 201345 813 6 1 15 * 00

N ote for Col. 5.— Areain which cropdamage was 281 lakhs ha. in Rajasthan and 2.56 lakh ha. in Gujarat.

■Note for Col. 6.—Number of houses damaged was 9I5O33 in Rajasthan.

N o t e for Col. 7.— Heads of cattle lost were 534 in H.P. and491 in Rajasthan. N i mbrr oflivr^ lost was 266 in H.P. and 61 in Rajasthan.

N o t e for Col. 9.—Damage to public utilities was Rs. 4638*68 lakhs in H.P. and Rs. 1 13- 18 Jakhs in Karnataka. Paddy and Wheat Pfoduofibii (b) the magnitude of productijn the various States; 158. SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR: Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ (c) the cost of production of eacD TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased commodity, indicating probable fig­ to state: ures, if precise figures are not imme­ diately available; and (a) the production of paddy and wheat in relation to total produc- (d) the reasons for disparity in tirn of foodgrains during the current year; procurement prices of the two com- ir.odities? M 7 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 24S

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE production of paddy in 1976-77 varies AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT between Rs. 54.60 per quintal in Assam SINGH BARNALA) (a) and (b). A to ;Rs . 85.97 per quintal in Andhra statement showing State-wise estimates Pradesh. The latest available cost of of production of rice, wheat and total production estimate for wheat for 1977- foodgrains during 1977-78 is enclosed. 78 is Rs. 108.57 per quintal in Punjab. This statement also gives the percent­ (d) The procurem ent/m inim um sup­ age of production of rice and wheat port prices are fixed by Government in relation to total foodgrains. Infor­ for individual agricultural commodities mation for the year 1978-79 would keeping in view the special considera­ become available sometime towards the tions relating to the concerned com­ close of the current agricultural year. modities as brought out in the recom­ mendations made by the A.P.C. and in (c) According to available informa­ consultation with the State Govern­ tion, provisional estimates of cost of ments, Stmtement

(Thousand tonnes)

State/Union Territory Ricr Wheat Total Prrccntiigr Food­ pri dur- grains ti( n of rire and whcar in relatic’i# to total food­ grains pro- dnctirn

I 2 3 4 5

Andhra Pradesh. . 5299-2 21-4 R570 0 62- I

As«am • 2284* 0 84-7 2424-9 97*7 Bihar j5i8-6 2502-5 98G3•9 8 1-3

Gujarat 669-3 1220-9 3^*73'4 48’ li

Haryana • 964- 0 2871•0 5:",62'5 7i ‘5

Himachal Pradf sh I 14* I 260- 0 929-3

Jammu & Kashmir • • 4r,C>-7 '5 6 -5 I 04 I • 0 58-9

Karnataka . • •• 2280* 7 242-9 7 1 IO‘ I 35-5

Kerala • 1269* 4 1294-1 9 ^’ I

Madhya PradrsJi * • 4395 * 2936-2 12115-9 60-5

Maharashtra , « 2344*I 962-3 10456-0 31-6

Manipur . • • 300-0 3 2 1 • I 93*4

Mrghalaya . . .• 130-5 2-7 148- 2 89-9

Nagaland . • •• 71-5 •• 97*4 73-4

Oris&a . .. 4319-2 II6-6 5372*4 82-6 W ritten Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 250

I 2 3 4 5

Punjab 2794-0 6639-0 10663-0 88*5 Rajasthan 236- 0 260B-4 7*53-4 39*8 Tamil Naclii 590I•0 0*7 8088-7 73*0 Tripura . 372*9 9-6 384-6 99*5 Uttar Pradesh . 5141-8 951J-o 20826 * 7 70-4 West Brngril 7508-7 IO5I -2 8093*4 95-2 Union Territories 305*8 130- 2 514*5 84*7 ALL-INDIA • 5267(^*5 31327-8 125604*5 66*9

Pay Scales of College Librarians and (f) steps Government have~faken to DP.Es. in Punjab implement those recommendations?

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, 159. SHRI BHAGAT RAM*. Will SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE the A^inister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- WELFARE a n d CULTURE be pleas­ DER): (a) The pay scales of Libra­ ed to refer to the reply given to Un­ rians and D.P.Es. in Universities and starred Question No. 4026 on the 14th Colleges are revised on the recom­ August, 1978 regarding scales of Lib­ mendations of the University Grants rarians and D.P.Es. in Colleges and Commission and not on those of Third Universities and state; Pay Commission. (a) whether college Librarians and (b) The revised pay scales recom­ D.P.Es. fall under the purview ol mended by the U.G.C. for Librarians U.G.C. or Third Pay Commission with and D.P.Es. were on the basis of regard to revision of pay scales; those recommended by the Third Pay (b) if they fall under the purview Commission for Central Government of U.G.C. then why they have been employees. recommended replacement scales for (c) The Third Pay Commission had corresponding categories of Central not recommended any revised scales Government employees recommend­ for Librarians and D.P.Es. in Univer­ ed by Third Pay Commission; sities and Colleges. (c) Third Pay Commission recom­ (d) The Third Pay Commission was mendations in this regard; appointed by Government to consider (d) essentialities for which Sen the revision of pay scales of Central CoiTimittee was constituted to recom­ Government employees. As University mend the pay scales of D.P.Es. and employees were not covered by the implement those recommendations; Pay Commisison, the U.G.C. constitut­ ed the Sen Committee to consider (e) whether his Ministry received their revision of pay scales. recomemndations made by the U.G.C. in February^ 1978 recommending the (e) At the instance of the Govern­ pLy scales identical to that of col­ ment, the U.G.C. reconsidered the ear­ lege lecturers (merging grades of lier decisions and recommended in Ri. 300—600, 400—800 and 400—950); February, 1978 that Librarians with aiid Ph.D. or M.Phil. in subjects other w nttm Answers NOVJCMBER 20, l97B Written Answers 252 than Liibrary Science might be consi­ Ministers in-charge of minor irriga­ dered for placement in the Reader’s tion and command area development and Lecturer’s scale and D.P.Es. with (CAD) was held in September 1978 Master’s degree in Physical Education to review the minor irrigation and in the Lecturers’ grade. Those who command area development program­ did not possess these qualifications mes, to identify and discuss the prob­ would continue in the appropriate re­ lems and constraints presently faced vised scale recommended for them. in the implementation of these prog­ (f). The main demand made by rammes and to suggest specific mea­ Librarians and D.P.Es. was for parity sures for improving and accelerating in pay scales with teaching staff. As the implementation of these program­ this demand was not accepted by the mes. U.G.C., Government was of the view (b) The important policy decisions that there was no justification for taken at the Conference are summar­ reopening the matter. ised below:—

Conference of Irrigation Ministers to A« Minor Irrigati^an Review Irrigation Programmes under ImptaMOtaUtam 1. The target of creating net ad­ 160. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR N. ditional irrigation potential of 9 million ha. from minor irrigation PATIL: Win the Minister of AGRI­ CULTURE AND maiGATlON be schemes during the mid-4erm plan pieased to state: (1978—83) will be within the realm of achievement and alround con­ (a) whether a conference of Irri­ certed efforts should be made to gation Ministers of the State Gov­ achieve this target. ernment was held in New Delhi in September, 1978 to review the inl- 2. Efforts should be made to achieve gaiion programme imder implemen­ maximum step-up in the flow of tation and identify the constraints institutional investment through liampAring speedy implameatation of simplification and streamlining of Irrigation adaemeg and suggest vari­ procedures, organising and sustain­ ous operatieoal/adBunistrative and ing drives for improved recovery financiid measures for speedy and position, organising local campaigns peeper esDECUtion of irrigation pro­ for on-the-^pot clearance of appli­ jects not only for creation 0} addi* cations: etc. tional irrigational potential but for ikn actual use for irrigation purposes Efforts sKcmld be m ade to by simultaneous execution of C.A.D. fully realise and even exceed the plans; target of energisation of 20 lakh pumpsets set for the mid-term (b) if so, details of important plan by making full use of the par­ policy decinon taken in the confer-^ ticipative programme of the Rural ence; and Electrification OOTporation (REC), (c) the follow up action taken/ Agricultural Refinance and Deve­ proposed to implement the decisions lopment Corporation (ARDC) and and the nature of central set-up pro­ Commercial Banks recently intro­ posed to ensure prc^r coordination duced, earmarking certain minimum and monitoring of the proieci? percentage of power generated from new projects exclusively for agri­ THK y W lS fT E R OP AGRICT7L- culture purposes and achieving TUBB AND IRMGATION (SHRI greater coordination between the SURJET SiHCm BARNAUL): (a) financing and the implementing SiK A Gonferenoe of Stale agencies. -233 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (^SAKA) Written Answers 254

4. Th« planning execution and 3. Maximum priority needs to be maJ atsaance of minor irrigation given for construction of field chan­ worlis should be improved by un­ nels to make available irrigation dertaking specific measures in the water to the individual fields and identified areas. with this objective in view, outlets to serve blocks upto 40 ha. should 5. Emphasis should be laid on be provided at project cost as per quiclr completion of minor irriga­ Planning Commission’s directive, tion works, by undertaking a limit­ and field channels upto each hold­ ed rnumber of projects at a time— ing should be constructed by the maxi num use may be made for the Slate Government at their costs. I\x)d for Works Programme to com­ plete the on-going works. 4. Consolidation of holdings should 6. t'ommand area approach may be given priority for scientific exe­ also be applied to minor irrigation cution of On-Farm Development workTii to improve their utilisation. (OFD) works and if this is not like­ ly to be feasible, at least a mini­ 7. The Minor Irrigation program­ mum programme of realignment of me n'iay be oriented in favour of field boundaries should be taken weakisr sections of community by up. encoui aging group works and pub­ lic tul>ewells (in areas where there 5. While giving emphasis for exe­ is prtpondrance of small farmers) cution of OFD works other items of and by taking full advantage of the the CAD package like warabandi, facility of subsidy for small and crop planning, agricultural exten­ marginal farmers which has been sion, supply of inputs, supplemental exteni/ed to all the areas. irrigation through ground water, construction of roads and markets 8. Xlie field organisations respon­ etc. also need to be given urgent sible for minor irrigation works attention. should be strengthened, and ade­ quate machinery should be set up 6. Modernisation of irrigation pro­ at the State level for more vigorous jects and construction of drainage monil4>ring and coordination of the net work should be given priority programme. and adequate funds should be ear­ marked in the State Plan under the B. Command Area DeveU^nent Irrigation Sector for these works. (CAD)

1, Concerted efforts should be 7. For handling the CAD prog­ made to accelerate the command ramme which is of complex nature, area development programme it is vitally important that the which is vitally important for ex- organisational infrastructure at the peditiiuus and efficient utilisation of project and the State level should irrigalicii potential and opthnising be adequately strengthened and production benefits from irrigated senior level officers may be placed agricuVture. in-charge of the programme.

2. The pace of execution of on- (c) Follow up action on the deci­ f a m tfcTelopment works should be sions taken at the Conference will be signifllcwitty stepped up by actively monitored by minc^ irriga­ atmfthorin^ the field units and tion and CAD Divisions in the Union streamlining the flow of institu- Department of Agriculture by asking for periodical reports which will be 255 Written Answera NOVEMBER 20, l978 Written Answers 256 crlticall}’ reviewed and through dis- port of the Working Group on Adult cussions', regular field visits, regional Education for medium-term Plan 1978- meetings, etc. 83, copies of which are available in Parliament House Library. Adalt Education Prograniiiies (c) A list of Voluntary Agencies 161. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR N. which are on the Grants-in-aid list has PATIL: separately been furnished in reply to 5IHRI VINAYAK PRASAD Lok Sabha Starred Question No. 1 YADAV: dated 20-11-1978. SHRIMATI MRINAL GORE: (d) and (e). It has been decided that organisations of the following types Will the Minister of EDUCATION, may not be provided financial assist­ SOCIAL. WELFARE AND ajL T U R E ance under the Scheme of Assistance be pleaded to state: to Voluntary Agencies working in the (a) whether Grovemment have field of Adult Education: finalised a programme on adult edu­ politicall parties and the various cation during the current year: mass organisations of women, (b) if so, details of programme con­ youth, workers and peasants; taining administrative set up, finan­ —All-India cultural, religious and cial provision, number of persons to youth organisations; and be partly employed and their ratt of remuneration with estimate of fin­ —^federations/associations of tea­ ancial outlay for the current year chers, students, trade and in­ and the next 3 years, year-wise and dustry. State-wise; The political parties and the other or­ (c) what is the number and names ganisations of these categories aie of voluntary organisations which expected to contribute in creation of have offered to implement the pro awareness among the people towards gramme in various States and the this mass programme and in motivat­ areas proposed by these institutions ing the instructors and the learners. under the programme and finally Organisations of the above-referred decided by the Ministry so far; categories who made requests for fin­ (d) whether some of the voluntary ancial assistance nave been informed organisations who have offered to on these lines. participate in the programme in various States on a large scale have not been finally allowed to operatt Financial aid to Flood and Cyclone and the reasons therefor; and Affected States (e) whether any representation 162. SHRI C. N. VTSVANATHAN: ag^st the participation by some Will the Minister of AGRICUL­ Agency has been received by Gov­ TURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased ernment, if so, details of the action/ to state: decision taken? (a) the quantum of assistance, THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, financial £jnd physical, given by Gov­ SOCIAI. WELFARE AND CULTURE ernment to the States affected by (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- fioods and cyclone durinlg the last iJER): (a) Yes, Sir. three yearg including current year; (b) Hie details of the prograonme (b) the principles tfovarning such are givm in the Summary of the Re­ ‘ii assistance; and 257 Written Answers KARTEKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 258

(c) whether Government propose THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE to make up the losses incurred by AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) The quan- tl-iese States by increased subven- tum of advance Plan assistance/ tions so that their regular plan efforts foodgrains allocated to the States are not hampered by diversion ot affected by floods and cyclone during resources for relief measures? the last three years, including the current year; is indicated below:

1976-77 1977.78 ^978-79 State Calamity Advancc Adv. Foodgrains Adv. Foodgrains Plan Plan (MT) Plan (MT) I assistan- assistan- Wheat Rice assistan1- Wheat Rice ce ce ce (Rs. (R,. (R, crores) crores) crores)

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

I. Andhra Pradesh . Cyclorc 3*53 56-52 1 i,c f0 i^',777 ij-

2. Asram Floods 2-53 4'98 I0;000 • •

Bihar Flood? i0'95 •• • • 44- 92 l! 40,cc0

4. Gujaraf Floods 4-25 10-43 •• ••

5- Haryana Floods •• I I'OO •• 15*30 . 2.5C0 6. Himachal Pi adrsh Floods 2- 70 C*£9 [ y,(co

7. J . & K. Floods 0-26 217

8- Kerala Cyclone 3-64 1 ^256 1,250 • •

9. Manipur Floods 0-445 • • 10. Orissa Floods • < 8-52

11. Pnrjab Floods • • ^‘75 r 8,cco • .

12. Rajasthan . Floods 3-32 7'97 10,f( 0 •• 7,( ( c • •

*3 Tamil Nadu Cyclone 3* <^5 29-31 lo.rro 10,CCD 14-40 • •

14. Tripura Floods I 'l l • • • ••

15- U.P. Floods 11' 25 10- 00 10.cm 54*22 ...

[ 6. West Bengal Floods • ‘ 4*41 3o^cco • • f8 -r 3 (( f 500 Da 15 marccr

(b) and (c). The existing policy case of natural calamities. For this ar»d arrangements for financing the purpose, the Sixth Finance Commis­ expenditure necessitated by natural sion has provided amounts by way of calamities are. based on the recom­ margin money. If the expenditure mendations of the Sixth Fm^ce necessitated by a natural calamity Commission. According to these exceeds the margin money, Central arrangements, the States are primarily assistance is given to the State in the responsible for provision of relief in form of advance Plan assistance whicbv 259 Written Answers NOVfildBER 20,1§78 Written Anm0ar» 26 0 is to be utilised lor accelerating on— ftWff; HMI'H VFTT1T !Wf going Plan works or taking up ap- piwed Plan works. The quantum of *Nra»i Jf t m in ft advance plan assistance is determined ( ^ ) %fn (5 ) «rr<5T r m T on the basis of the on*tbe-spot assess­ » fqfiTB %S(7 spf ment by a Central Study Team and the reeommendations of the High Level 7wtF3kt *r 19 7 8 - Committee on Relief. Under the 79 % 67 «rrTrT!fr3rTrr?ff % n m State is not impaired on account of % I cTftT?rnT5 trfv:- occurrence of natural calamity. ifT3Rr*ft S9 ^ ?rT Jr w r 5f?f | m 11

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Laying of Sewers in Pitampura Society has stated iVi his Report that Residential Scheme the present Managing Committee of the Society has agreed to accept the 164. SHRI PRADYUMNA BAL: membership of 129 persons out of those who have submitted their affi­ SHRI SHANKARSINHJI davits before him; VAGHELA: Will the Minister of WORKS AND (b) if so, full details of the R e ­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY \ND REHA­ port submitted by the Commissioner BILITATION be pleased to state: along with details o£ aforesaid 129 persons; and (a) whether it is a fact that the trunk sewer in the Pitampura Resi­ (c) the reasons for which the pre­ dential Scheme is not yet complete; sent Managing Committee of the Society, even after giving its accep­ (b) if so, the reasons therefor; tance, has now not included the names of all these 129 persons in the (c) whether it is a fact that the List of Members prepared by it as residential plots of land in Pitam­ declared in the Registrar of Coopera­ pura Residential Scheme were allot­ tives Notice appearing in the Hin­ ted as long as 1975 and 1976 and the dustan Times dated 4th June, 1978? full cost thereof has also been realis­ ed; and THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND (d) whether thg new contract for HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHA­ the construction of trunk sewers line BILITATION (SHRI STKANDAR has since been awarded and if so, BAKHT): (a) to (c). The Local Com­ the person to whom awarded and missioner appointed in this regard by when the work is likely to be com­ the Delhi High Court has submitted pleted? his report to them. The High Court has passed an interim order on 26-5-78 THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND laying out in detail the procedure to HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHA­ be followed by the Society for resolv­ BILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR ing the issue of membership. The BAKHT): (a) Yes, Sir. matter is, still, before the High Court and hence sub judice. (b) Becausce the matter has been under dispute. Recommendatioiis of the Enquiry (c) Yes, Sir. Officer in regrar^ to the Members^p (d) The contract has not yet been of DSTCHB society awarded. 166. SHRI MAHI LAL: WiU the Implementation of the Local Com­ Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING missioner’s Report in reg^ard to the AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ DSTCHB Society TION be pleased to state:

165. SHRI MAHI LAL: WiU the (a) whether the Enquiry Officer Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING appointed by the Registrar of Co­ AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ operative Societies, Delhi, in 1972 re­ TION be pleased to state: garding the affairs of the Delhi School Teachers Cooperative House (a) whether the Local Commis­ Building Society Ltd., called for affi­ sioner, appointed to decide the mem­ davits from the members of the said bership of Delhi School Teachers Society by 16th April, 1974 vide Cooperative House Building Society Notice No. F.954(H)/42 dated 2-3-74 Ltd. for the purpose of election to with a view to prepare a list of the Managing Committee of the genuine members of the Society; 267 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 268 (b) whether the list of genuine (c) the total number of affidavits members was finalised by the Enquiry received by him from those who were Qffloer, if so, the details in regard not teachers in 1974 but claimed to thereto; be teachers; (c) if not, the reasons therefor; (d) the total number and particu­ lars of affidavits received by him from (d) full details of the observations, those whose names did not appear in suggestions and recommendations the list of 1482 persons but now ap­ m ade Yyy him, particularly in regard pear in th^ list of members sub­ to the members of the Society; mitted by the present Managing (e) the steps taken so far to im- Committee to the Registrar in May, plement those recommendaticfe re­ June. 1978; and garding the membership; w d (e) the time by which and the (f) the steps now proposed to be manner in which the above infor­ taken in that regard? matics would be made available? THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHA­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND REHA­ BILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT): (a) to (e). Information is BAKHT) : (a) No, Sir. The Joint being collected and will be laid on the Registrar of Cooperative Societies Table of Sabha. issued a notice in this regard. (b) to (f). No list of genuine mem­ Tribal Land under improved Agricul­ bers was finalised by the Enquiry Offi­ tural Techniques cer as the entire membership lacked 168. SHRI GANGADHAR APPA the backing of the bye-laws. The BURANDE: Will ihe Minister of Government was initiating appropriate AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION action when the membership issue be pleased to state: became the subject matter of a civil writ petition in the High Court of (a) how much tribal land has been Delhi. The matter is still stxb judice. brought under various improved agri­ cultural techniques till this date; and (b) the details thereof? Affidavits by the Members of Delhi SdKN>l Teachers CooperatiTe House THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE Building Soeiety AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARN ALA): (a) and (b). The information is being collected and will 167. SHRI MAHI LAL: Will the be laid on the Table of the House in Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING due course. AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ TION be pleased to state: Development of Tribal and Folk Art (a) whether the Registrar of Co­ and Culture operatives, Delhi called affidavits from the members of Delhi School Teachers 169. SHRT SUBASH CHANDRA Cooperative House Building Society BOSE ALLURI: by 16th April, 1974, but went on SHRI D. AMAT: receiving them till 30th October, 1974 or 18th November, 1974; Will the Minister of EDTTCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (b) if so, the reasons for which the be pleased to state: Secretary of the present Managing Committee, issued further noticed (a) whether it is a fact that a aslcing lo r affidavits from nsw persons; Iftttional Committee hms been set up 269 Written Answers KARTIKA 29; 1900 (SAKA) Writtm Anavms 2.^0^ to advise the Government on the Linkini: Education with Coltare development of Tribal and folk Art and Culture; and 170. SHRI SUBHASH CHANDER BOSE ALLURI: (b) if so, the details thereof? SHRI D. AMAT: THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION. Will the Minister of EDUCATION. SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTORE SOClAl WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- be pleased to state: DER): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. An Ad­ visory Committee for the preservation (a) whether a proposal is undtr and promotion of Tribal and Folk Arts consideration with Govemmeiiit for in the country has been ^et up under linking education with culture; the Chairmanship of Education Minis­ (b) whether it is a fact that a com­ ter, which may make recommendations mittee has been set up to examine in the matter, with the following terms this; and of reference:— (c) if so, the details of the proposal? (1) To advise Governmeat on the methodologies by which the sucio-cul- THF. MINISTER OF EDUCATION, tural fabric of tribal India can be sav­ SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE ed from the traumatic shocks of indus­ (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- trialisation, DER): (a) Yes, sir« (2) To advise Government on the (b) Yes, Sir. steps to be taken for develooniental programmes so as to maintain the in­ (c) A Committee for Linkage bet­ tegral link between art and life style. ween Education and Culture has beer* set up under the Chairmanship of (3) To advise Government to launch Education Secretary with Education pilot projects for evolving a planning Secretaries of all States/U. Ts. and ofil- strategy on a Janapada «;pecially in a cials of the Departments of Education,. tribal belt. Culture and a representative of the (4) To advise Government on a pro­ Planning Commission as members. gramme of documentation of tribal and The Committee would evohre the ope­ folk arts and crafts in the institutions rational strategy of linking education and individuals who may jndertake and culture with the objective of incor­ these. porating a greater cultural content in educational curriculae. (5) To advise Government on the setting up of museums and otho»* insti­ tutions which may focus attention on Indo-Pak A^eement on sale of Wheat the collection, preservation and docu­ to Pakistan mentation of the tribal and folk arts.

(6) To advise Government on the 171. SHRI SUBHASH CHANDRA introduction of content relating to BOSE ALLURI: ethnic and cultural diversity of t:\bal SHRI D. AMAT: society in the educational curricula specially at the elementary nni secon­ Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE dary level. AND IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (7) To advise Government on the (a) whether Indo-Pakistan agree­ ■ ^volution of information material ment has boen concluded in Sept.^ which may be widely disseminated at 1978 to sell whe^t to Pakistan; and the urban and international level on \ cultural heritage of tribal and (b) if so, the main features of th e rural society. agreement? 2962 LS—. Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 272

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND SOCLAL WELFARE AND CULTURE i r r i g a t io n (SHRI BHANU PRA- (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CilUN- TAP SINGH): (a) and (b). There was DER): (a) and (b). There is no pro­ no agreement for the supply of wheat posal at present to have a uniform to Pakistan. However, an fjgreement pattern of primary education through­ was concluded between the Govern­ out the country. The immerliate ob­ ment of Pakistan and National Seeds jective of the Government is to achieve Corporation Ltd., in September, 1978 universalisation of elementary educa­ lot the supply of 5270 tonnes ot certi­ tion for children of the age-gioup fied wheat seed at the rate of Rs. 3000/- 6—14, in line with the Constitutional per tonne. Directive. The States/Union Territo­ ries have been requested to draw up programmes for achieving th’s within T s rg ti tot Total ProhiUtiofi the next 10 years. The Education Ministers’ Conference which met in 172. SHRI HITENDRA DESAI: Will July 1978, recommended that the the Minister of EDUCATION. SOCIAL school education should comprise WELFARE AND CULTURE l^e pleased Elementary, Secondary and Higher to state: Secondary stage of 12 years’ duration. (a) what is the target for achiev­ ing total prohibition in tdc v/xiole Restiiction on Expansion of Secon­ country; and dary and Higher Education (b) what progress lias so far 174. SHRI HITENDRA DESAI: made in that direction? Will the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFARE AND ClfLlTJRE THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, be pleased to state: SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE OML PRATAP CHANDRA CHUNDER); (a) whether Government arc con­ (a) The target date for achieving sidering putting restrictions on the prohibition as reaflarmed by th? Cent­ expansion of secondary and higher ral Prohibition Committee, is March education; and 31. 1982. (b) if so, the nature of these res­ trictions? (b) Guidelines for implementing total prohibition by the States have been given to States and Union Terri­ THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, tories. The States are taking steps to SOCIAL WELFARE AND CUI.TURE implement the programme in phases. (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CKUK- DER): (a) and (b). No such proposal is under consideration. However Common Pattern for Primary taking into account the fact that in­ Education crease in enrolment in higher educa­ tion during the past few yeirs has 173. SHRI HITENDRA DESAI: Will only been marginal, and thit a large the Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL number of colleges continue to func­ WELFRE AND CULTURE be pleased tion with uneconomic enrolments the to state: University Grants Commission has ^a) whether there is going to be a suggested that no new college should common pattern for primary educa­ normally be established durinnf the tion in the whole coimtry; and next five years. However, 'n the case of backward areas where there was a (b) if so, what are its essential felt need for opening such colleges it featuresf should be done after a proper survey 273 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 274 o f the available facilities and their trolling the rivers emanating from utilisation. The Commission has also Nepal which cause floods in the ter­ suggested that admission to each de­ ritories of both States with the Gov­ partment/college should be related to ernment of Nepali the available facilities and the increase An demand for admission should be met (b) if so, whether any specific pro­ through alternative means like corres­ posal is under the consideration of pondence courses or permission to stu­ two Governments; and dents to appear privately in examina­ (c) if so, the details of the propo­ tions, etc. sal and the stage at which such pro­ posal rest now? Proposal to re-build Canal System and Embankment of Rivers in West THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE Bengal to avoid Flood AND IRRIGATION (SHRI SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) to (c). Yes, 17*5. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: Sir. Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION be pleased to His Majesty’s Government of Nepal state: has been requested to cooperate in the joint studies and discussions regarding (a) whether the Centre is having development of the rivers common to any proposal to re-build the entire India and Nepal, keeping in view flood canal system and the embankments control and other benefits. Agreement of the rivers in West Bengal after has also been reached with HMG of the bitter experience of national dis- Nepal for joint investigations of the ft:>ter due to flood; and Rapti (Bhalubhang) multipurpose pro­ (b) if so, the details thereof? ject in Nepal benefltting India and Nepal, and Panches-hwar Project on the THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE India-Nepal liorder. With regard to AND IRRIGATION (SHRl SURJIT the Karnali Project in Nepal, it has SINGH BARNALA): (a) and (b). been agreed to establish a committee There is no proposal to re-build the to examine preliminary issues concern­ entire canal system and the flood ing 'execution t>f this project, including embankments on the rivers of West carrying out wanting investigations, Bengal. However, the State Govern­ assessment of costs, etc. ment will carry out restoration of the damaged portion and accelerate the plan schemes in the affected areas. Dama8:e to Houses due to Floods Advance Plan Assistance of Rs. 88.93 crores has been allocated to the State 177. SHRI CHITTA BASU: Will Government to meet the increased ex­ the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ penditure due to the flood damage ING AND SUPPLY AND REHA­ caused this year. BILITATION be pleased to state: (a) the nuinber of houses damaged Proposal for conirollingf rivers ema- and destroyed due to the recent floods Dattng from Nepal causing floods in different States; and ^76. SHRI CHITTA BASU: (b) the manner in which the Gov­ SHRI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: ernment propbse to offer assistance ta SHRI A. R. BADRINARAYiMsi: the owners of the damaged houses to Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE repair or rebuild them; and a n d IRRIGATION be pleased to state: (c) details of the assistances given whether the Government have to the State Governments in aince taken up the matter of con­ behalf? 275 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 2.76-

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND allocated, on the basis of recomfnen- HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ dations of Central Teants/High Level HABILITATION (SHRI SKANDAR Committee, Advance Plan Assistance BAKHT): (a) The number of houses to the a^ected States for housing sub­ damaged/destroyed in the recent sidy generally to the extent of floods, as reported by the affected Rs. 200/- per house/hut damaged/ States on the basis of their prelimi­ destroyed. nary assessment is given in the en­ (c) The advance plan assistance closed statement. allocated to the affected States is (b) The Central Gk)vernment has given in the enclosed statement.

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3 Gujarat • • 1,908

4 Haryana 77,000 1-50 5 Himachal Pradesh . , 6,778 o* 12

Ja n u u Jt Kaakniir 88 18,000

7 KeraU . . . « 1,47,248 A Central Study Te^m is c w - rently on visitfrcm i4-ii i£78v

8 Madhya Pradesh . 50,000 A Central Team is visitirg shortly.

9 O riM . / 27.431 Report!? of Centra? Tesm^ are awaited.

10 Punjab 20,000 O’ 40

11 Rajastl ari i , :6.595 3*58

Id Uttar Piadrsh ii,P8,cco 8*00

*3 West Bengal 19,04,411 iB*oo ^77 Written Amtpers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 278

CoQperatiflm from Wanctednidi to tame foahmaputra River («•) ffl ^ fe*fT *Wr t ; 17.8. SHRICHITTABASU: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND (»r) w IRRIGATION be pleased to state; Trftr ^ v*Rrr?f ; (a) whether the Government have soifgiat co-operation from the Govern- meiit of Bangladesh to tame the Brahm^iputra river; and (*r) |T, wr ?T«P jrf? m fiTT I ? (b) if so, the response from the Bangladesh Government?

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRl SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) The Indian («fV »?T^ srarr proposal for Augmenting dry season flows of the Ganga envisages a barrage 1 5 - 1 0 - 1 9 7 8 ^ ‘t JTrf^RTI % across the Brahmaputra and a Brahma- srf^ w % ^ 5 ^ awTirT Tif^r putra-Ganga link canal, suplemented 79727. 53 «ft t at the appropriate stage, by the con­ struction of large multipurpase storage dams on the Dihang (Brahmaputra), (^) 15-10-1978 W r Subansiri and Barak rivers. The con­ ^ c’T T ^t' 74679.06 struction of these storages will apart from providing large blocks of hydro- ^ STn'?:if?r 'T§% ^ 3iT I I t'.ectric power and considerable augmentation of dry season flows, will also enable substantial moderation of (*r) («r)^ the floods and appreciable lowering of the flood levels all along the Brahma- putra-Meghna. I TTf^r ^ (b) The Indian proposal has been placed before the Indo-Bangladesh ^ 1 snrrm % «ri»r % ^ ^r, Joint Rivers Commission. The Com­ *mi I t w mission nJT. as the proposal of Bangladesh envisag­ y^tPT-55 Sin'nt ing storage reservoirs on the Ganga ^ tift sjR?«TT TfrflCT I and its tributaries !PT t !T 6 ? rr^ 1978 ^ ^T»I ^ f?2TT W Tlf T %, f s r a t !rr?ns5i*ff, f^rn^ 179. irof : 5T% ^fh>TT ^ TT jm T -/m f: 'd'1% STSr^ sffffvrT ^ ^ ar^T I I f'T®% 5r i r ^ : »T5Tr ? I T ^ , 1966 Jf »fV ( ^ ) W f»T?r fe rr ^i4i ^ rrrf^ *r?i % ffw pfr ^ *r# ^ f ^ 279 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 28o*

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182. 5 ^ WT : 183. SHBI R. V. SWAMINATHAN: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION be pleased to state:

(a) whether it is a fact that 8,000 ^ in v n r ?w t jfir houses are ripe for demolition in Delhi wVt 5’wfH iT^'t ^ «fV s 't t since June 30th last year; (b) whether there is equal number of unauthorised construction of shops {W>) ^ ^T% VJ in Delhi also; ^TTS'n' ^ 5fTn!FT»1 i i and ^r'k 5fiTo % 5rWi % (e) whether some of them have tt 55rp«Tm % JTf< BAKHT): (a) and (b). Information T t f t ^'T ^ I ? is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the Sabha.

fMrf"! wyT?TWT?T rm i (c) Yes Sir, wherever the property 5 ^ H *T?ft [(«rt JWtT ) : has been assessed. (^) Tff’^nr F??^ ^ f® (d) The accounts for collection of ^^'tf?nff % <1 house-tax in respect of unauthorised construction is not maintained separa­ 19 !T ^ 7 : ^ STTTT^ ^ ^ tely. It is, therefore, not possible to- if rrsp f7:

( g ) «R’iq;,rT spr srfi.fcr New Job Oriented Education Policy % if 5T^ %ZTT 5fT ^ «fri KJTiT % ftitr ^ ?1t h 184. SHRi RAJKESHAR SINGH: Will the Minister of EDUCATION, T(taTw % r^rci ;tjt^ snr SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE I " f be pleased to state: • . ------s m ( s r i;^ f:T^T>»r (a) whether Government are going to announce a new job-oriented edu­ ^*rr f^ifgr’Jr) tt^t 5rr% cation policy in the near future; and % ^ arr^r sr|[5rirY?nT^'>T % (b) if so, the time by which it is ^ ^T?PTT fTT 11 likely to be announced? ^ 3 Written A««i>«rs NOVEMBER 20, W8 Written Answerg 284 TOE MINISTSR OF RDUCATiON, THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR DXR): (a) and (b). Based on the BAKHT):

IM. SHRi RAJKESHAR SINGH: 187. SHRI DALPAT SINGH Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE PARASTE: AND IRRIGATION be pissed to state: SHRI KACHARULAL HEM- RAJ JAIN: whether his attention has been drawn towards news item entitled Will the Minister of WORKS AND ^‘China wants India’s Wheat” publish­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ ed in the National Herald dated 13th HABILITATION be pleased to state: Ootober, 1978; and (a) the progress so far made in (b) if so, reaction of the Govern­ constructing shopping ce^ntres and ment thereto? community centres in the Pitampura Residential Scheme of the Delhi THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Development Authority; MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRETGATION

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Demolitions during Emergency in HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ Delhi HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT); (a) Layout plans/detailed 186. SHRI KISHORE LAL: Will drawings of a fruit and vegetable the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS­ market, shopping centres in Pocket ‘J’ ING AND SUPPLY AND REHABILI­ and a shopping centre in Sarasw^ti TATION be pleased to state: Vihar have been finalised for Pitam­ pura Residential Scheme. The work (a) whether Shah Commission has of construction of cc«nmunity centre reoommended rehabilitation of those in Pitampura Residential Scheme is persons whose houses were demolished at planning stage. dvrifng the period of Emergency in Delhi; (b) and (c): Detailed estimates and drawings are under finalisation. It is (b) bow many such applications expected that the administrative ap­ have been received; and proval will be issued in the current (c) how much time the Govern­ finanoial year and that the commercial ment will take to allot them plots and areas would be fully developed by the extend crther facilities? end of 1979-80. 28$ Written Amioers KAKTIKA 29, IftOO (SAKA) Wntten Answers 286

Commercial areas are developed making slower progress than wliat after the residential areas have been was envisaged in July last year; fully developed. (b) if so, whether only four Staiet Grant of House BuiMins^ Loans by have so far committed themselves to DD.A. go dry under four year phased pro- jSramme; 188. SHKI KACHARUIiAL HEM- fc) if so, w hat are the reactions of RAJ JA IN : other States; SHRI SHANKAR SINHJI VAGHELA: (d) how many States have informed their intention to implement the Will the Minister of WORKS AND programmes; and HOUSING a n d s u p p l y AND RE­ HABILITATION be pleased to state: (e) what action Government pro­ pose to take against the States who (a) whether it is a fact that Delhi have not so far implemented the Dovelopment Authority grants house programme? building loans to the general public for constructing residential houses on THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, the pJots allotted to them by D.D.A.; SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- (b) if so. the amount of loan thus DER): (a) The policy of prohibdlaon sanctioned by D.D.A, to each category envisages the introduction of prohibi­ of persons and the criteria followed tion by the States in a phased manner, for sanctioning loan to the public; over a period of four years ending (c) the number of persons to whom March 1982. No rigid stages of the D.D.A. has granted house buildii^g phases have been laid down, as such. loan during the year 1978 so far and (b) to (d). As many as 12 States the amount involved; and have accepted the policy and the time !d) how many applications are still irame. The policy is under considera­ pending with the D.D.A. for house tion by 6 States, and 2 States have building loans and when they are taken some measures but have not likely to be disposed of? indicated a firm policy. The remaining •vvo States are dry (Tamil Nadu and THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND G u jarat). HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR (e) The responsibility of imple­ BAKHT): (a) No, Sir. menting the prohibition policy rests (b) to (d). Do not arise. delusively with the States under the provisions of the Constitution. Slower Progress for ImplemeBtation Award of Tribunal on Narmada of Total Prohibition by Staten W aters Issue

189. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: 190. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHRY: Will the Minister x)f AGRICULTURE SHRI A. R. BADRI NARAIN: AND IRRIGATION be pleased to SHKI MANORANJAN state: BHAKTA: (a) the reaction and response to SHRI DURGA CHAND: the Award of the Tribunal on Nar­ mada Waters Issue by the Govern­ Will the Minister of EDUCATION, ments of Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE Maharashtra and Rajasthan; be pleased to state: (b) the steps taken by the Gov­ (a) whether it is a fact that Central ernment to follow the directions and plan for total prohibition by 1981 is orders contained in the said Award; 287 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 28a (c) whether Government have (b) to (d). The question of constitu­ set Up a board of Engineers for the tion of a Narmada Control Authority purpose and if so, full facts regard* and execution of projects in Narmada personnel, etc.; basin will be taken up when the further report of the Tribunal becdmes (d) if not, why not; available. (e) whether Government have (e) to (g). The projects formulated/ i^otted special additional financial finalised by the State Governments in resources to the four State Govern­ the light of the Tribunal’s decision ments concerned for the current finan- have not so far been received. The tial year in this regard; question of their inclusion in the (f) if so, details thereto; and developmental plans of the States will be considered after receipt of the pro­ (g) if not, why not? jects from the States keeping in view the likely available resources etc.

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE Raral Honsing Schemes by States AND IRRIGATION (SHRl SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): (a) The Nar- 191. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: mada Water Disputes Tribunal sub­ SHRI BIRENDRA PRASAD: mitted its report to the Central Gov­ ernment on 16-8-78. According to the provisions of the Inter-State Water Will the Minister of WORKS AND Disputes Act 1956, if, upon considera­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ tion of the decision of the Tribunal HABILITATION be pleased to state: the Central Government or any State (a) whether one or more State Government is of opinion that any­ Governments have formulated and thing therein contained requires ex­ planation or that guidance is needed submitted to the Central Government upon any point not originally referred the schemes for rural housing during the years 1977 and 1978; to the Tribunal, the Central Govern­ ment or the State Government, as the (b) if so, full facts thereof; case may be, may, within three months from the date of the decision, again (c) whether Government are giving refer the matter to the Tribunal for financial assistance by way of grant further consideration, and on such or loan to the concerned State Gfov- reference, the Tribunal may forward emments in this regard; to the Central Government a further M) if so, broad details thereof; and report giving such explanation or guidance as it deems fit and in such (e) if not, reasons therefor? a case, the decision of the Tribimal shall be deemed to be modified accord- THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND ]ngly. The Act further provides that HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ the Central Government shall publish HABILITATION (SHRi SIKANDAR the decision of the Tribunal in the BAKHT): (a) to (e). Housing is a Offleial Gazette and the decision shall State subject. Central financial assis­ be final and binding on the parties to tance to the State Governments for all the dispute and shall be given effect to their State Sector programmes, in- by them. Accordingly, the Central culding ‘housing’, is released in the Government and the State Govern­ shape of 'block loans’ and ‘block ments of Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, grants’ without their being tied to any Maharashtra and Rajasthan have made particular scheme, project or head of references to the Tribunal on 15-11-78 development. The State Govern­ seeking clarifications/guidance. The ments are free to utilise the block further report from the Tribunal assistance on their Plan schemes in­ giving such explanation or guidance cluding rural housing according to is awaited. their needs and priorities. 289 Written Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 29a

However, Housing and Urban Deve­ (c) the decisions and/or resolutions lopment Corporation—a Government passed at the said conference, and of India Undertaking-—is giving loan main indication of Indian’s contribu- assistance to the State agencies like

List of the Approved Delegates to the Qcth General Ccvf*rerce cj l\M S C C Fcri » Ocfcbd 24*- November 28, 1978.

i« Dr. Pratap Chandra Chunder, Minister of Education, ^ i a l Welfare and Culture, and President, Indian National Commission for Co-opcraticn with Unesfo. ^23-ic-7r —i-i 2. Shri L. K, Advani, Minister of Infcimaticn and Broadcasting......

3* Shri P. Sabanayagam, Education Secretary, Ministry of Education & Social Welfare; and Secretary-Genrral, Indian National Commission for Co-cperatirn wiih Uncsco. 31-10-78— I 4* Shri N. Krishnan, Ambassador of India in Yugoslavia

5« Dr. S. Gopal, Member, Executive Board of Uresco . 23-ic-7r— 6. ^ r i A. S. Gill, Additional Secretary, Department of Culture, Ministry of Education & Social Welfare 8-11-78—18-11.^8

^ ^vemine^t Principal Information Officer, 1 1-11-78^ 18-1 i-7ff ^91 Written Answers NOVEMBEE 20, 197S Written Answers 292

4. Shri Maboibwsr Day«l» Deputy Permanent M apm cn* Utivc of India to Unesco, Einbassy of India, Paris 24-10-78—28-11-78 »9. SHri P. K. U Bi^hankar, Joint Secretary, Ministry of Education & Social Welfare .... 23-10-78—8-11-76

10. S'l-i Praka^h, f 3int Secretary, Ministry of Infonna- UQO & Broadcasting ...... 11-11-78—18-11-78

IT. SHri D R. Mankekar, Chairman, CommuDication S ib^Oom-nission for Co-operation with Unesoo, and Chairman, NoQ<«liigiied News Agencies Pool 11-11-78—18-11-78

12. Dr. Gurbaksh StQgh, Vicc-Ghancellor, Hyderabad University, Hyderabad 23-10-78—8-11-78

1 3. Prof. Ot>aid >nddiq i, Proftseor of.Mo^ecular Biology, TaU ^a

14 . Shri Puracndu Sekhar Pattrea, Member, Indian National Commission for Co-operation with Unesco, 139, Bangur Avcnur, Block B, Calcutta-70005 7-11-78— 19-11-78

15. \f Ela Bhatt, Gandhi Mazdoor Sevalaya, Ahmeda- b ii ...... 12-11-78—24-U -78

16. Siri G. N. Tandon, Special Assistant to Minister of lTf>mition & Broadcasting ..... II-11-78—18-11-78

17. Shn \ K Rasu, So^cial Assistant to Minister of Educa­ tion, Social Welfare ^nd Culture; and Secretary, Indian National Cora ai«ion for Co-operation with Unesco . 23-10-78—I-11-78

i3. O’*. J. Dhar, Principal Scientific Officer, Department of S^ience& Te''hnr>logy i-i 1-78— I i-i 1-78

ly. SliriG.R. Gaota,Under Secretary fUnesco Division), Ministry of Education & Social Welfare 23-10-78—29-11-78

Cattnral Delegation to Foreign coun­ THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION. tries during 11H8 SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- 193. PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR: DER): (a) Yes, Sir Win tbp Minister of EDUCATION, SOCIAL WELFAJIE AND CULTURE (b) A statem ent is laid on the Table be pleased to state: of the House. [Placed in Library, See (a) whether one or more cultiiral No. LT-2776/78]. delegations were officially sponsored or sent to visit one or more foreign (c) Yes, Sir. countries during the year 1978;

(b) if so, full details thereof, in­ (d) and (e). Apart from the official cluding cost and benefits; delegations shown in the statem ent (c) whether such delegations were attached against reply (b) above recently sent to China; during the latter (half of 1978, certain cultural groups/individuals were grant­ (d) whether Government gave any ed financial assistance to the extent of assistance to the cultural teams which 50 per cent return economy class air visited China and other countries fare as in the statement laid on the during the latter half of 1978; and Table of the House. [Placed in Lib­ (e) if so, broad details thereto? rary. See No. LT-/78]. ^ 2^ WritUn Answers KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Written Answers 294

of Affrtcaltuni Prke fttMT m n t f iw m iTWraV CO M ateioo ^i«ivr (c) if so, the details of the order and whether the Map of the colonies % 't f'TI ^ : have been given to the people so that they can see the map and depo­ (sp) *Pn I sit the required amount thereof? fnlTrrHJr fr«Tr THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND cnfSfNH' % w in 'TT HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE- lifr SJl?T ^ ?»5lT5Tr HABIUTATION (SHRI SIKANDAR BAJCHT): (a) Yes, Sir. Some residents of 47 such colo­ nies have deposited the amount. No ( g ) JTftr m siT^cr deposits have been received in respect ^ I 31^ JTWIW ^ ^ of 166 such colonies under the charge f^nrr ; of D.D.A,, who are extending the date for this purpose upto 31st December^ 1978. No fresh order has, however, (»r) % wsrr been issued by the D.D.A. I sfh: w r ^ . (c> The sum of Rs. 5 per square F^?t irnrmf n Hrni metre has been called for by the D.D.A. as first instalment of develop­ ment charges. The maps of the colo­ nies would be prepared after physical and socio-economic surveys have been completed and made public thereafter. ^95 Written Answers NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Written Answers 296

Per Capita Coosohiption of Wheal, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Milk and Pulse in Bihar MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- 198. SHRI .HALIMUDDIN TAP SINGH): (a) The consumption AHMED: of wheat, milk and pulses is elastic Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE to a considerable extent and is depen­ AND IRRIGATION dent on a number of factors such as be pleased to state; level of income, comparative prices of (a) the per capita consumption of various food articles, availability of wheat, milk and pulse in Bihar in substitutable food stuffs, food habits particular and India in general; and climatic condiiions, etc. How­ ever, according to data available in (b) whether it is a fact the per the ‘Diet Atlas of India, 1971’, pub­ capita consumption of the above items lished by the National Institute of is the lowest in Bihar; and NutritiDn (ICMR) Hyderabad, the (c) if so, the steps to be taken by consumption pattern in respect of the Union Government to improve the these items was estimated as under: — situation thereof?

(Grams per person per day)

Wheat M ilk& Pulses Milk products

fiihar . 97 20 42

A !1 Ind ia • • • • «4 69 34

(b) No, Sir. (c) Does not arise.

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155.00 155.00

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Slum-Clcaraiicc Schemes direct financial assistance is provided by the Central Government for imple­ 200. SHRI B. C. KAMBLE: Will the mentation of the scheme. Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING (d> and (e). While the Slum Clear­ AND SUPPLY AND REHABILITA­ ance/Improvement Scheme will con­ TION be pleased to state: tinue during the Plan period 1978—83 (a) the details of the schemes for as part of the social housing schemes the purpose of slum-clearance out of in the State sector, increased r^mpha- the fljiances of Unioi'i Government, sis will be laid on the improvement of diiring the last year; slvim? and provision of sites and ser­ vices to the economically weaker sec­ (b) whether such schemes are form­ tions of society.. ed by Union Government or by State Governments with the Financial aid of Union Government; 12 hrs. (c) what is the State-wise progress MR. SPEAKER: Papers to be laid. of implementation of such schemes; Please do not record. and (Interruptions)** (d) whether Government propose IVIR. SPEAKER: Mr. Saugata Roy» any schemes for slum-clearance in I have considered the motions that the ensuing Five Year Plan; and have come before me. Whatever I (e) if so, the details tiiercof? thought necessary I had allowed. I have got some calling attention mo­ THE MINISTCR OF WORKS AND tions. Whatever has not been allowed HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ is not allowed. Please do not record. HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR (Interrupiions)** BAKHT): (a) to (c). The Slum Clear­ ance/Improvement Scheme is in the MR SPEAKER: Do not record any­ State sector. Planning^ funding and thing. I am not allowing now. I am execution of this scheme is the respon­ on my legs. I have a right to say. This sibility of the State Governments. No Bill is before the House. It is up to 301 Papers Laid KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Papers Laid 30 yo u either to accept it or reject it or (DR. PRATAP CHANDRA CHUN- amend it. How can I allow an ad­ DER>: I beg to lay on the Table: — journment motion about a matter (1) A copy of the Report (Hindi which is already pending in the and English versions) of the Execu­ House? The matter is pending before tive Committee of the Trustees of the House. I have allowed 377. the Victoria Memorial Hall^ Calcutta (Interruptions)^* for the year 1977-78 together with the Certified statement of accounts.

No further discussion. Please do not (2) A copy of the Review (Hindi record anything. and English versions) on the work­ (Interruptions)** ing of Victoria Memorial Hall, Calcutta, for the year 1977-78. IZM hrs. [Placed in Library^ See No LT- PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE 2757/78].

W a t e r ( P r e v e n t i o n a n d C o n t r o l o f P ayment of B onus (A mdt .) Ordi . P o l l u t i o n ) 2 n d A m d t . R u l e s , 1 9 7 8 NANCE, 1978 Additional Duties of THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND Excise (Textiles and Textile Arti ­ HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RE­ cles ) Ordinance , 1978 and Sugar HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR U ndertakings (Taking over of BAKHT>: I beg to lay on the Table a Management ) Ordinance , 1978 copy of the Water (Prevention and THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN­ Control of Pollution) (Second Am­ TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR endment) Rules, 1978 (Hindi and Eng­ (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA): I beg lish versions) published in Notification to lay on the Table a copy each of the No. G.S R. 515(E> in Gazette of India following Ordinances (Hindi and dated the 30th October, 1978, under English versions) under article 123(2) sub-section (3) of section 63 of the (a) of the Constitution: — Water ('Prevention and Control of Pol­ lution) Act. 1974. [Placed in Library, (1) The Payment of Bonus See No. LT-2755/78] (Amendment'/ Ordinance 1978 ('No. 3 of 1978) promulgated by the F e r t i l i z e r ( C o n t r o l ) A m e n d m e n t President on the 8th September, O r d e r , 1978 1978. [Placed in Library^ See No. LT-2758/78]. THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL­ TURE AND IRRIGATION (SHRI (2) The Additional Duties of SURJIT SINGH BARNALA): I beg to Excise (Textiles and Textile Artic­ lay on the Table a copy of the Ferti­ les) Ordinance, 1978, (No. 4 of 1978) lizer (Control) Amendment Order, 1978 promulgated by the President on tKe CHindi and English versions) publish­ 3rd October, 1978. [Placed in ed in Notification No. G.S.R. 426(E) in Library. See No. LT-2759/78]. Gazette of India dated the 23rd Aug­ ust, 1978, under sub-section (6) of sec­ (3) The Sugar Undertakings tion 3 of the Essential Commodities (Takings over the Management) Ordinance, i978 (No. 5 of 1978) pro­ Act, 1955. [Placed m Library. See No. LT-2756/78]. mulgated by the President on the 9th November, 1978. \Placed in Li­ Report and Review in r EiSpect of brary. See No. LT-2760/78]. Victoria Memorial Hall , C alcutta P resident ’s Orders in Relation to the FOR 1977-78 Union Territory of Mizoram and t h e MINISTER OF EDUCATION, Pondicherry WELFARE AND CULTURE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE **Not recorded. MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS

2962 LS--12. 303 Papers Laid NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Papers Laid 304

(SHRI DHANIK LAL MANDAL): I Reports etc., under Banking Cqm t beg to lay on the Table copy each of PANiEs (Acquisition and Transfer or the following Orders (Hindi and Undertakings) Act, 1970 N otifica­ English versions) issued under section tions under Gold (Conrtol) Act, 51 of the Government of Union Terri­ 1968, Customs Tariff Act, ^ 1975, tories Act, 1963: — Central Excise Rules, 1944, a n d Customs Act, 1962 (1) S.O. 644(E) published in Gazette of India dated the 11th November, 1978 notifying President’s THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Order dated the 11th November, MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI 1978, in relation to Union territory ZULFQUARULLAH): I beg to lay on of Mizoram. [Placed in Library. the Table: — See No. LT-2761/78]. (1) to relay on the Table a copy (2) S.O. 645(E) published in each of the following Report* (Hindi Gazette of India dated the 12th and English versions) under s u b ­ November, 1978 notifying President's section (8) of section 10 of the Bank­ Order dated the 12th November, ing Companies (Acquisition and 1978, 1978 in relation to Union terri­ Transfer of Undertakings) Act, tory of Pondicherry. [Placed in 1970: — Library^ See No, LT-2762/78]. (i) Report on the working and activities of the Central Bank of NonncATiGN under Essential C om ­ India for the year ^nded the 31st modities A ct , 1955 and Sugar U nder ­ December, 1977 along with the takings (Taking over or Management ) Accounts and the Auditor’s Report Rule , 1978 thereon.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (ii) Report on the working and MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND activities of the Bank of Indi«i IRRIGATION (SHRI BHANU PRA- for the year ended the 31st Decem­ TAP SNGH): I beg to lay on the ber, 1977 along with the Accounts Table: — and Auditor’s Report thereon. (1) A copy of Notification No. G.S.R. 438(E) published in Gazette (iii) Report on the working and of India dated the 30th August, 1978 activities of the Punjab National containing corrigendum to Notifica­ Bank for the year ended the 31st tion No. G.S.R. 414(E) dated the December, 1977 along with the 16th August, 1978 under sub-section Accounts and the Auditor’s Report (6) of section 3 of the Essential Com­ thereon. modities Act, 1955. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-2763/78]. (iv) Report on the working and activities of the Bank of (2) A copy of the Sugar Under­ Baroda for the year ended the takings (Taking Over of Manage­ 31st Dececmber, 1977 along with ment) Rules, 1978 (Hindi and the Accounts and the Auditort English vessions) published in Noti­ Report thereon. fication No. G.S.R. 552(E) in Gazette of India dated the 13th November, (v) Report on the working and 1978, under section 21 of the Sugar activities of the United Commer­ Undertakings (Taking Over of cial Bank for the year ended the Management) Ordinance, 1978. 31st December, 1977 along with [Placed in Library. See No. LT- the Accounts and the Auditor** 2764/7a], Report thereon. •The Reports were previously laid on the Table on the 4th August, 1978. 305 Papers Laid KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Papers Laid 306

(vi) Report on the working and (2) to lay on the Table^ Activities of the Canara Bank for the year ended the 31st Decem­ (a) A copy each of the following ber, 1977 along with the Accounts Notifications (Hindi and En^glish and the Auditor’s Report thereon. versions) under sub-section (3) of section 114 of the Gold (Control) (vii) Report on the working and Act, 1968: — activities of the United Bank of India for the year ended the 31st (i) The Gold Control (Speci­ December, 1977 along with the fications of Standard Gold Bars Accounts and the Auditor’s Report and Conditions of Refining) thereon. Amendment Rules, 1978, 1978 (viii) Report on the working and published in Notification No. Activities of the Dena Bank for 5.0. 493(E) in Gazette of India the year ended the 31st Decem­ dated the 5th August, 1978. ber, 1977 along with the Accounts and the Auditor’s Report fhereon. (ii) The Gold Control (Specifi­ cations of Standard Gold Bars (ix) Report on the working and Conditions of Refining) and activities of the Syndicate Second Amendment Rules, 197® Bank for the year ended the 31st published in Notification No. December, 1977 along with the 5.0. 494(E) in Gazette of India Accounts and the Auditor’s Re­ dated the 5th August, 1978. port thereon. (x) Report on the working and (iii) The Gold Control activities of the Union Bank of (Forms, Fees and Miscellaneous India for the year ended the 3 1st Matters) Second Amendment December, 1977 along with the Rules, 1978, published in Notifi­ Accounts and the Auditor's Report cation No. S.O. 496(E) in thereon. Gazette of India dated the 5th August, 1978. [Placed in (xi) Report on the working and Library, See No. LT-2765/78]. activities of the Allahabad Bank for the year ended the 31st Decem­ ber, 1977, along with the Accounts (b) A copy of Notification No^ and the Auditor’s Report thereon. G.S.R. 441(E) (Hindi and English versions) published in Gazette of (xii) Report on the working India dated the 2nd September, and activities of the Indian Bank 1978 together with an Explanatory for the year ended the 31st memorandum regarding levy of December, 1977 along with the export duty of Rs. 50.00 per tonne Accounts and the Auditor’s Report of barytes, under sub-section (3> thereon. of section 7 of the Customs Tariff Act, 1975. [Placed in Library. (xiii) Report on the working See No. LT-2766/78]. and activities of the Bank of Maharashtra for the year ended the 31st December, 1977 along with (c) A copy of Notification No. the Accounts and the Auditor’s G.S.R. 463(E) OHindi and English Report thereon. versions) published in Gazette of India dated the 20th September, (xiv) Report on the working 1978 to ether with an explanatory and activities of the Indian memorandum regarding exemp­ Overseas Bank for the year ended tion of certain brands of Cigars the 31st Dececmber, l977, along and Cheroots from Excise Duty with the Accounts and the issued under the Central Excise Auditor’s Report thereon. [Placed Rules, 1944. [Placed in Library^ in Library, see No. LT-2554/78]. See No. LT-2767/78], 307 Papers Laid NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Assent to BilU 308 (d) A copy each of the following dum regarding rate of exchange Notifications (Hindi and English for conversion of Canadian versions) under section 159 of Dollars into Indian Currency or Customs Act, 1962: — vic€-verse. (i) G.S.R. 445(E) published (viii) G.S.R. 485(E) publish­ in Gazette of India dated the ed in Gazette of India dated the 6th September, 1978 together 1st October, i978 together with with an explanatory memoran­ an explanatory memorandum dum regarding increase in export regarding rates of exchange for duty on Coffee. conversion of certain foreign currencies into Indian currency (ii) G.S.R. 447(E) published or vice-versa. [Placed in Library, in Gazette of India dated the See No. LT-2768/78]. 7th September, 1978, together with an explanatory memorn- dum regarding reduction in ex­ port duty on Tea. CONSTITUTION (FORTY-FIFTH AMENDMENT) BILL (iii) G.S.R. 448 (E) published in Gazette of India dated the 7th Returned by Rajya Sabha with September, 1978, together with A mendments an explanatory memorandum regarding reduction in import SECRETARY : Sir, I lay on the Talble duty on electrical insulation of the House the Constitution (Forty- paper board. fifth Amendment) Bill, 1978, which has been returned by Rajya Sabha (iv) G.S.R. 449(E) to 451(E) with amendments. published in Gazette of India dated the llt'b September, 1978 together with an explanatory memorandum regarding reduc­ ASSENT TO BILLS tion in import duty on certain SECRETARY: Sir. I lay on the items imported for the manufac­ Table the Press Council Bill, 1978 ture of certain electronic com­ passed by the Houses of Parliament ponents. during the last session and assented to (V) G.S.R. 455(E) to 458(E) since a report was last made to the published in Gazette of India House on the 31st August, 1978. dated the 16th September, 1978, 2. Sir, I also lay on the Talbe copies together with an explanatory duly authenticated by the Secretary- memorandum regarding reduc­ General of Rajya Sabha, of the follow­ tion in import duty on certain ing five Bills passed by the Houses of items import for the manufac­ Parliament during the last session and ture of certain electronic com­ assented to: — ponents. (1) The Maintenance of Internal (vi) G.S.R. 464(E) published Security (Repeal) Bill, 1978. in Gazette of India dated the 20th September, 1978 together (2) The Passports (Amendment> with an explanatory memoran­ Bill, 1978. dum regarding rate of exchange for conversion of Swis Frances (3) The Indian Explosives into Indian currency or vice- (Amendment) Bill, 1978. verse, (4) The Metro Railways (Cons­ (vii) G.S.R. 465(E) published truction of Works) Bill, 1978. in Gazette of India dated the (5) The Delhi Police Bill. 1978^ 2t>th September, 1978 together with an explanatory memoran­ 309 Assent to Bills KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Assent to Bills 310

12.10 hr*. perly considered and examined in that proper perspective. It should be dis­ be. discussion on the commu­ cussed on a long term basis. n a l SITUATION IN THE COUNTRY —Contd. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: We shall now take up the Call Attention .... (Interrup­ 12.13 hrs. tions). So ar as Aligarh is concerned, it is under judicial proble. I have RE. PRESIDENTS ORDER IN RE­ allowed a common question which in­ LATION TO THE UNION TERRITORY cludes Aligarh because it covers OF PONDICHERRY. throughout India, which is not under judicial probe. Moreover Aligarh is a SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR (Pondi­ State subject. ... (/nterruptions) So far cherry): In the midst of all this noise, as the other thing is concerned, I have you allowed the Minister of State to disallowed and my order stands. lay item No. 7(2) on the table of the House. He has conveniently put it SHRI C. M. STEPHEN (Idukki): without referring what it is. He has May I make a submission on this? stated that on 12th November an Order This is a matter on which your Secre­ was passed to dismiss the Pondicherry tariat must have received a long num­ Ministry and thereby Assembly there ber of motions. It shows the concern was dissolved widely felt in this country on this They are the great protectors of question. I am not pointing out Ali­ democracy in this country. When garh only, communal tension is surfac­ Assembly was called for to meet on the ing throughtout the country which 24th they dismissed it without any could not be covered by call attention. sense of shame in the selves. You Call attention has got its limitations. helped them also. Different aspects of this question will have to come in. Therefore, a full- fledged discussion on this matter is MR. SPEAKER: No. 'necessary whether on adjournment SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR: Because motion or 184. So kindly see that an­ there was such an amount of noise. other opportunity is given to the House Under item 7(2) he says that an Order to have full fledged discussion on this dated 12th November, 1978 by the matter. President of this country. What is it? It is for dismissing an elected Govern^ SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN ment and too much backed. He prov­ (Satara): Mr. Speaker, we raised this ed majority there. If there Is any ‘question with you yesterday in the corruption charge, if there is any alle­ meeting with leaders of opposition gation against it, you must have given parties and groups. You were kind them an opportunity. But, on the con­ enough to agree to allow some sort of trary, you have listened to the bureau­ a long-time discussion on this issue, crats there and dismissed the Assembly ft is not only what has happened in v^ithout any consideration for these Aligarh. The technical part of it, the people. After all, you know, Lt. Gover­ judicial probe etc., is only about the nor had called for the Assembly to first part of it. After the appointment meet on the 24th 10 or 12 days are not of a commission also, later on. certain going to matter much. What prompt­ events have taken place which are ed these people to come and dismiss certainly painful. Aligarh certainly this Assembly and this Ministry at all, underlines the communal situation in I cannot understand. These people are the whole country. It is a matter of proclaiming themselves the greatest concern to every Member here, cutting defenders of democracy. They were across party lines. I think tt is na- hooting just now before that. Where is o^al issue and it should be very pro­ the evil, I want to know it? 3 U Assent to Bills NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Assent to Bills 3 1 2 [Shri A. Bala Pajanor] MR. SPEAKER: I am not giving any ruling whatsoever at all. I am merely j You Imow lor 1/2 years Pondicher­ 8 informing you. Yesterday, at the ry was under the President’s rule. leaders’ meeting it was agrred that We are the bitterest part of it. 19 there should be full term debate on the months of emergency-these people are communal tension in India and in talking a lot about it. For 3 1/|2 years particular about Aligarh. we have been under the cudgles of cer­ tain individuals there. 1,500 miles SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Role of R.S.S. away, being in Delhi, you are not able to follow... (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: You have not to MR. SPEAKER: That had already make a speech. been decided yesterday. We are giv­ ing you full debate on that subject. SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR: It is a Therefore, there is no point .... very important matter. He is laying en the table. I am opposing his laying (Interruptions) rf this matter on the table. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: I am on a MR. SPEAKER: You have mention­ point regarding procedure. I would ed that. like to submit that I quite appreciate the point... SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR: Item No. 7(2)—laying by the Minister of MR. SPEAKER: But I do not appre­ State Shri Mandal. Without knowing ciate interfering in the matter. where is Karikal, where is Pondicher­ ry, he comes forward and says it is SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Rule 56 is re- dismissed. So, I object to it. garding motion or adjournment. But Rule 60 is very clear— MR. SPEAKER: So far as AUgarh is concerned... “Provided that where the Speaker has refused his consent under rule {Interruptions) 56 or is of opinion that the matter proposed to be discussed is not in SHRI BALA PAJANOR: I caU for a order he may, if he thinks it neces­ division. I am opposing this. I call sary, read the notice of motion and lor a Division. I oppose its laying on state the reasons for refusing consent the table. In that noise and shouting or holding the motion as being not you allowed them to lay on the table. in order.” If lung power is going to be the order of the party, then my performance, my Even in Assemblies----- party’s performance will be different. I oppose item 7(2). I ask for a divi­ MR. SPEAKER: Assemblies are not sion. precedent for me.

(Interruptions) SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: I will read out the latter part. After the judicial enquiry was ordered, the resultant in­ 12.17 hrs. c id e n t.... re. DISCUSSION ON THE COMMU- MAL SITUATION IN THE COUNTRY MR. SPEAKEH: I see no point. ^^contd. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: Please read SHRI K. LAKKAPPA (Tumkur): our adjournment motion. You hear me. Then you can give a ruling. MR. SPEAKER: Shri Unnikrishan. 313 Assent to Bills KARTIKA 29, 1900 (5AKA) Assent to Bills 314

SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN (Ba- proposal. (Interruption). Nobody Will dagara: I hope you have read my dictate to me nor will I take orders. motion. This is a very important matter and there are other important matters. I MR. SPEAKER: I suppose you have am placing it before the Business advi­ read my Order also. sory Committee.

SHRI K. P. UNNIKRISHNAN: It has SHRT SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA only been orally communicated to me. (Begusarai): When such an occasion It is a wiser question regarding the arises, when there is pressure for ad­ failure of not only the Government of mission for a full-fledged discussion, Uttar Pradesh but the break down of would not the Chair consider it appro­ the constitutional machinery in the priate not to allow a calling attention State of Uttar Pradesh. Aligarh is so that there is no repetition? Even only a symptom. It is only a conclusive if it had been allowed, there can be ai evidence. Minorities in Uttar Pradesh amendment of the agenda at the ins­ feel inF

SHRI A. BALA PAJANOR: We vriM U.P. Government has appointed a do that. For that we do not require Commission of Inquiry with Shri S. K. any encouragement from them! (Inter­ Verma, Retired Chief Justice of the ruptions). Allhabad High Court as its Chairman to inquire into the riots. Its terms of reference are as follows: — (a) ascertaining the facts regarding IZM hrs. the incidents including the number of casualties a^d the causes which led to those incidents resulting in inju­ CALLING ATTENTION TO MAT­ ries to public servants and others. TER OF URGENT PUBLIC (b) assessing the manenr of handl­ IMPORTANCE ing of the situation by local autho­ rities concerned and ascertaining C ommunal riots in the country particularly, whether adequate steps were taken and also whether the SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHEKHARA force used (including firing) was jus MURTHY (Karnataka): Sir, I caJl the tified and commensurate with the attention of the Minister of Home requirements of the situation. Affairs to the following matter of ur­ gent public importance and I request (c) assessing and fixing the res­ that he may make a statement there­ ponsibility, and the extent thereof, o n :— relating to the said incidents. The Commission shall complete the in­ “The increasing trend of commu­ quiry within a period of four nal riots in the country, and in Ali­ months. garh in particular where riots have been continuing for the last two The report of the Commission is be­ months.’* ing awaited. In the meantime, oa 6th November 1978, consequent to ru­ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE mours spreading over a stabbing in­ m in is t r y o f h o m e AFFAIRS cident between two persons both be­ (SHRi DHANIK LAL MANDAL): longing to the minority community, Sir, Government apreciates the concern communal trouble again flared uP. On about the situation in Aligarh and I 8th November, there were several feel I should deal with it before I come incidents of stabbing and firing by to the general situation,—the subject members of public. Police had to open matter of this Motion. So far as Ali­ fire. 16 persons lost their lives in garh is concerned there can scarcely these incidents and the number of in­ be any doubt that it must cause all of jured is 32. 34 houses were affected Us deep anxiety and apprehension. It by arson and looting and the loss of arose out of a prevalent state of ten­ property is about Rs. 1. 75 lakhs. sion owing to a rivalry in^a wrestling bout. It resuTted in the stabbing of a U.P. Government has decided to ex­ rival wrestler who belonged to anti­ tend the term of the Verma Commia- social elements and his death on 5th •ion to cover these communal riots as October, 1978. When his dead body well. was taken away in a procession, anti­ social elements resorted to arson, lo­ The Central Govt, rendered appro­ oting and stabbing. 11 persons were priate assistance to U.P. Government kiUed'and 34 injured 56 shops/houses at their request by despatching units were set on fire/looted and the loss of of CRPF and BSF to AUgarh. property was about Rs. 3.5 lakhs. The officers on the spot who allowed the The Chief Minister, UP has announc­ dead body to be taken away have been ed financial assistance up to Rs. 5,000 transferred pending further action. for each person killed and Rs. 500/ and 317 Communal KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Riots (CA) 318

250/- respectively to each idividual where in the country was highlighted. who received a serious or a minor Suitable guidelines have been issued to injury. It has also been decide to Government both officially and demi- give financial assistance to those whose officially from the Prime Minister to property was destroyed/ looted. The the Chief Ministers. There is reason Prime Minister has also contributed to believe that generally the overall Rs. 75,000/- from the National Relief situation is under control and even the Tund. expected repercussions of the most regrettable communal incidents in Ali­ Although there have been no inci­ dents since the 8th November, the garh have been avoided. situation is still tense. The present SHRI RAJ NARAIN (Rae Bareli): need therefore is to ensure by vigi­ Sir, on a point of information. lance and deployment of security for­ ces tc defuse the situation and this is MR. SPEAKER: Where is the que^ being attempted by the U.P. Govern­ tion of point of order? ment and local authorities. It is upto us also to ensure that nothing is said SHRI RAJ NARAIN: I am going to ■or done which would feel the fire of give you a point on information. •communal feelings in the area. I would appeal to all sections of the House to MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Rai Narain, it •exercise their restraining influence on is not allowed under the rules; it is not various elements both local and out- allowed. :s:de. SHRI RAJ NARAIN: It is perfectly The Government has to await the parliamentary. report of the Commission regarding the incidents and the cases leading to MR. SPEAKER: It is Parliam ent. them, the manner of handling of the That is why we are governed by rules. situation by local authorities, and The rules do not permit it. If I al­ assessing and fixing the responsibility low you, I must allow others also. relating to these incidents. I would Jike to assure the House that neither SHRI RAJ NARAIN:: You are not 4 he Central nor the State Government understanding my point of order. will shirk their responsibility for deal­ ing adequately with those responsible, MR. SPEAKER: There is no point of whoever they may be. order. You are giving a point of in­ formation. There is no point of As regards the general communal order in that. •situation, while there is no cause for complacency, it appears that overall SHRI RAJ NARAIN: Sir. may I 'Conditions are somewhat improving su b m it.... ^nd the situation appears to be under control. I would not like to enter into comparison with pa?t figures, on the MR. SPEAKER: Please quote the basis of which the position is not un­ rules. Please tell me what is the favourable, but the fact remains t^at rule that is breached? even a single incident is a matter that should be classified as disgraceful. SHRI RAJ NARAIN: It is a point of order. This problem was discussed by the Prime Minister with the leaders of Opposition parties in Parliament. MR. SPEAKER: What is the rule The Chief Ministers’ Conference held that is breached? in the month of September also dis­ cussed this question and the need for snTTDRgr : J taking a strong and deterrent measures ^0 stop communal riots occurring any­ ^ fir ir J i Communal NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Riots (CA) 320

MR. SPEAKER: No, it is not & SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHEKHA- IK>int of order. A point of order should RA MURTHY: It is a crying shame be about the breach cf either a rule that communal riots are breaking out or a constitutional provision. Unless in Aligarh frequently. In the first you tell me what is the rule that is riot on 5th October, which left be­ breached, I cannot allow it. hind a dozen dead, the curfew was imposed indefinitely in a part of the SHRI RAJ NARAIN: It is the most troubled town. After three weeks the important breach of the rule—giving trouble started again and the situation wrong information about death. continued to be tense. I appeal to the Government to try honestly to MR. SPEAKER: No, it is not. find out some permanent solution to put an end to all communal clashes- throughout the country. mr Hmwin . ? n f >Tv T^'T >r^rr t?T)Tf5RT As reported by the press and in my opmion, the RSS is responsible for all ? these communal riots in Aligarh.... MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Raj Narain, (Interruptions) you are a very senior member. You MR. SPEAKER: Please do not inter­ must know the rules. rupt him. He has a right to give hia point of view. The Minister would SHRI RAJ NARAIN: Because I deny it, if he is wrong-----(Interrup­ know the details, that is why I am tions) saying all this. SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHEKHA- MR. SPEAKER: I am sorry, I can­ RA MURTHY: Evein a senior Janata not allow it. Party leader and former Health Min­ ister, Shri Raj Narain, had also ac­ SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHEKHA- cused the RSS q{ fomenting commu­ RA MURTHY: As the Janata Part> nal unrest in Aligarh and other parts of the country. It is reported in the came to power at the Centre, the New spapers ---- (Interruptions) I ap­ communal riots in the ^ountry is rapidly increasing; more particularly peal to the hon. Prime Minister. Shri it is frequently occurring in the States M orarji Desai who is in charge of where the Janata Party is in power. Home Affairs, a real Gandhian and a lover of secularism, to ban the RSS immediately throughout the country to SHRI RAM DHAN (Lalganj): prevent further communal riots in the What about Andhra? country. By m ere stopping? of d rill and sakhas in Aligarh town, it will SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHEKHA- not yield any better results. At least RA MURTHY: I will come to that. I request the Home Minister to ban During the emergency actually there RSS in Aligarh on a trial basis.... was no communal clash in the count­ (Interruptions) ry. Then the communal organisa­ Further, I plead through you that a tions like the RSS were totally ban­ full-fledged debate is essential On this ned. Even Shri Ram Naresh Yadav. senstive and important subject. the Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh, MR. SPEAKER: That you have al­ admitted that after the lifting of ready mentioned. emergency and Janata Government coming to power, communal riots are SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHEKHARA rapidly increasing in the country.... MURTHY; I want to put some specific (Interruptions) questions to the Minister: ( 1) Whether RSS is responsible MR. SPEAKER: Please do not in- for all communal riots in the terrtipt. country? 321 Communal KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Riotd (CA) 322:

(20 If so, what action the Govern­ ever is responsible.. ment propose to take? (Interruptions) (3) Is Mr. Navaman, the former MR. SPEAKER: Do not record. Janata Party President, who is said MR. SPEAKER: I am not allowing to be responsible for all these riots anything except under the rule. in Aligarh, ha^ been arrested? If (Interruptions) not, why is the delay in taking action? SHRI C. M. STEPHEN (Idukki): I rise on a point of order. The point of THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI order is this. Under the rules govern­ MORARJI DESAI): If the anxiety of ing Call Attention notices, the Member •the hon. Member is only to who has given notice is entitled to ask damn the Janata Party Gov­ a question and a reply has got to be ernment, he can do so, \ have given. The question was asked, the no quarrel with him. He can do reply has not been given saying that whatever he likes. But to say that it because of the judicial inquiry he is happens only where the Janata Party not able to give the reply. You allow­ Government is there, is not true at ed this question after considering the all and is far from truth. I do not fact that there is a judicial inquiry .want to recount incidents elsewhere pending. The rules contemplate ask­ because that does not mean that I want ing a question and giving a reply. to justify any incident anywhere, and Regarding the judicial inquiry, the I do not want to blame those govern­ terms of reference to the judicial ments. But these incidents are wrong, inquiry which were read out by the they are a matter of shame for all. Minister in his answer to the first That is what we are saying. It was question do not cover the question as not said before by them at all when to whether the RSS is involved in U.P. it was their concern. But I have no or not. Therefore, the question put hesitation in saying it. We have got by the Member will have to be answer­ to stop it, I have no doubt about it. ed. The Minister is violating the And what happened in Aligarh is a rules if he is avoiding the answer to niatter now under judicial inquiry. I the question. cannot, therefore, discusg it here and give a view which might prejudice it MR. SPEAKER: I have overruled and which will not be fair either to the the point of order. The Prime inquiry or to the House. It is not, Minister has said, as to the persons therefore, for me just now to say responsible is one of the terms of any thing, but • any way it reference. has been said that the inquiry will be (Interruptions) over soon. We have said it must be finished within four months and who­ SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: This is a ever are responsible will be dealt with very important matter and there is no strongly. That I can say and I do not Use in our remaining. We are walking think anybody will have to complain out. about it. Beyond that, I do hot wish Shri C. M. Stephen and some other to say anything. hon. Members then left the Lok Sabha. SHRI M. V. CHANDRASHEKHARA: (Interruptions) MURTHY: He has not answered my MR’. SPEAKER: Don’t record. questions. TTsr sTRWOf : ifTT . .MR. SPEAKER; He has answered fully your questions. He said, the inatter is under judifcial inquiry. Who­ ^ I I * *Not recorded. Communal 323 NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Riot* (CA) 3 H

[«fr Trar I # firfJT?;! Judicial enquiry is legal action, and ^farr j fv wr ^ *pt t there is also political action. There ^ lfhc T< f^'-^-fKsff ^ ?«T ^ TT 5ft 'T T ^'r^r^ ’TT^nn ^'t ?rrf5m t | | ? ^ f?jrr ^cT»rT i 5T5T % fipTr ^ | Jr ify Tts f^^-f^rwff *FT H*i?r ^ n |f ^ ^\fT% I ^r, ^rrT ^ ^ n|f »rf I I ftp ?fffir5fr i?ir MR. SPEAKER: I do not think there % ?ft»r ^ »r^, ?fl ^ t W T n T ^ is any point of order. He has answer­ ed the question. H»rr t | *r I ^ 3Tt ?fr?TT «ft rnr !T » fr ? 3 ^ ir Government might in its wisdom % 5fT ^ it fJTT % V ^ X 2 5 5iW take its own time—will the hon. Prime Minister say that the drills or shakhas. ^ 3ft #Tt % ?t 7t ir m MR. SPEAKER: That was not the ^ IT? # ^ ^ c lT I I t question put. No point of order. 5fr»r^^m 9r*Ftv»i?rTn’TftT t ^ »rir, «ft f i r r r (5ffSTIIH ft^ ? I ^ qr w?r trr^t % ?rtT WWi ^ I I ^ w ^^TT%* ?TfT?T ^ m « n i t % % W«r ^T?r ?TT % «rr^ *f ^ arr’flr 5fr

••Not recorded. 325 Communal KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Riots (CA) 326

151^ TOT *r^ ^ ^f«rn 5Jn?T % I ?n ^»ff if Kwrfw «rtr arr^' % w i ^ I ^ * if Tft f ? ^ ‘f Sjff Kwrfw WfefT »raT w k ^ >tt ^ I I «T3f ^ n l % W JTT^!fifT^t ^ IjfT'JrT WT ? l »rf, JI? if % ^ tn f 'TK ^ W^!TT=5aT f w 5«7 \?J ‘ I 5T«n?t JTWt 5ft H ^WnT f I ?T^T JT? ffffm if 3TT riW,T (Interruptions) # srTnfTTTV %n7 | MR. SPEAKER: No. I do not allow % % *T?^: IK KIPT ^'f ?»fT ^ any reference to Pakistan. f?«I% ^T I % r?1TT 5® ff 5rrTotTHot<5ao finnr 5K tt j ^ ^ ^¥^151 ^ IfiRTT q r ^ !^^?PT5r ?w:5l7!ITt IT Tft I ^sr % iTEHTW >sfV 5i3fT^< ?r?ft f??r f«BT Iff K5 TOf Ct j?>3T5 ir ?frT %n # ^ftq'in I ? ir irrfi% | ^^ftfvra^ ?5r^®rO ¥ t «ft % if ?TT^of^^io’T.Ho ^T fT«I % V f ^'■pft % «n'Tt TT T?t»i5i?r ?T 3,Tq;»;T 5iff I 1 % srmsiT 12 sFt «ffT 3r^9izr^ iW‘^TX<\ % K? 5i7^ ITT f t PifH tr jptf^TT WI 5i t»nt I % 5fiw ?nf*TH |t i «r, ^ % >IKT «ft sftT iT W n ^ 'i VWT5T ^ ^ fjm apT *r? w:^ % % V(^X t^eV- ftF^Sr^ln ^ f^*5?5nff ^ V ^ X ^T ?T«i I Iff ^ ' t Jr ? « ^i^n^f 5^ 1^ ' fiftr JTif ’(ft Pp ffT?i ^T n ^ | I ir Jf ^T»r %h% %!^x spi^T x^_ I I (Interruptions) SIEiTeT ffnrn ^ TT ^1T f5f»TT?% ^ fnCT, f^??TTn % 5T?.T MR. SPEAKER: Don’t record. ^ %|?a-Tn Jpr firsf % f?f'7. ir^ w Krf5.-?r ^"'r ts:x T^'t | i SHRI MORARJI DESAI: As I said *T6JTaiT ir^Kir, m T ^ % ?,<> '^to % in reply to the previous question— since a judicial inquiry is going on, I- 5r»ff K ^-<1^, >EfT»lTT % cannot give any opinion about who is ?r»ri % spTT^, ?ftw 5T?!r *r, responsible for this until that opinion t^TTsrr^ if, if ^if ff fTTT^r? comes—the same thing applies to the question of my hon. friend. I cannot ^ t wt»t t 5fT^ jffOT give any opinion about the statement ^ ^TTif ^TnT he has made. That is why an appeal was made when the statement was t if srr fTT «»T3f t ?pc^ made that let us not say anything ^ 'f ^T 5T^T «PT T| I I which will increase the tension or in­ crease this malady further. That is what I would like to appeal to all con­ stItt if m if ^ Vt cerned. «ft *n?5f(f?:3t % 'trr^'V ’Tf^^TT I ir?, giT ?fq % fntT 5ft vnr ^nfsT r«^ ( ? ? I ^ ) : ^ I I 51^ ^ «fl*PT, ^ X if Vr»5RTfilSF cff,TV, % ^?r ?»ff if ^TTn ^TT^t if %5?ff f»Rrff | | ^7 «ffT

•No t recorded. 327 Communal NOVEMBER 20. 1978 Procedure Re. C.A. 328 Riots (CA) (Announcement) SHRI MORARJI DESAI; The hon. Member has made a suggestion about ^ ^ t ?: «rr?r the I.G., Police there ...... 5 ?r tT»r WT 1 1 SHRI RAJ NARAIN: And the Chief ^ % JTEfn ^ fiin % ^ Minister too. ? H 5 r^ ’T^ | , TcTf ^JITn- ^'1 SHRI MORARJI DESAI: The same qjtfTO ^ I % f H ^ ^ reply I have to give. Unless the judi­ ^•^IT I ? ^ TT»r ^ n|f cial inquiry fixes the blame on some persons, I cannot say anything. In the « T cT9 ^»T meanwhile, I suggested to the Chief ^ 5t»TT «tV?: h t ?rriv: fjp;rfV Minister to see that any officers who ar not capable of dealing with the ft f^5T ^ nff fT»ft I situation should not be allowed to deal w ith it. ^ T T STSln *T^ ?fh: »T^ MR. SPEAKER: Shri Faquir All JT ^ % fn q ^ rR? ?fTT 51%?r % Ansari—not here. ^ T?t sp o 3fro m n |f ^?n ir«ft 1978 from Shri S. D. Somasundaram, ^ ^ % 'T^fTJT ^ Hrw ®>i an elected Member from Thanjavur constituency of Tamil Nadu, resigning % cfT # ^~T his seat in Lok Sabha. I accepted his fsTiiRTT I ? ^ % f^(T ^ resignation with effect from 16 Novem­ ^ fsrrJr^TT n ff I ? ^ ?*7 % ber, 1978. ^ ^ ^T^'t fsra % ^«r Jr ^ ^ ®T?r?«ir | , fsfrinuT 12.52 hrs. I ? ^T^r ^'r KTTr trr^?ff % ANNOUNCEMENT RE : PROCEDURE — ^ 1 1 «T5ft*r? if ft €*rHi7: FOR DEALING WITH CALLING AT­ TENTION NOTICES ft ^ m 5ftr t ftrat- MR. SPEAKER: Members will re­ g5ft ^ njr?r f?TT ft, ^ sr?vr call that on the 6th December, 1977 I ^iT^IT fjF^r?TT fi|r I ? had made an announcement regarding the procedure to be followed for deal­ ing with Calling Attention notices. In 3T? ^ ^ - K JTf?r sp ?j?m 5ftJflr accordance with that procedure, Call­ ^ ^ZTtiT 'T ^ ^ ^ SrS’T^ ing Attention notices received upto »i5ft ^ ^ TfiTF =5rr?crr ^ ^ 2r»r 10.00 hours on a iay, in case not select­ ed by me on that day, lapse under Tf JT I ofW provisions of rule 197(5). Any Mem­ ^ WFT ?r>?: 2r>!T ?rWf ^ ber whose notice had not been select­ 5WT5T TT f ir a itr I rpft ^ ?r»flf ed had, however, the right to revive his notice for a subsequent day by ?> HfTrTT ? I T!T ff ^ giving a fresh notice and such notice 31 «r>T ?ft3T^ ?ftir1r ^ ift art was considered by the Speaker along with other notices received for that «TT * r^ ? WT 3T^ firt? t I day. 3 29 Air crash at KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Leh (St.) 330

A number of Members had sent Plane Aircrash on 19th November^ suggestions to the Rules Committee 1978 in which a large number of lives that in view of the difficulties ex­ were lost. perienced by them in repeating the Calling Attention notices on the same THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE :subject from day to day, when a Call­ (SHRI JAGJIVAN RAM): Mr. Speaker, ing Attention on a subject was select- Sir, with sincere grief and the deepest -ed, notices on the same subject of regret, I have to communicate to the received earlier might also be taken House the very sad news that an Air into account for the purpose of ballot­ accident occurred at Leh yesterday ing names of Members for inclusion in morning in which 78 valuable lives the List of Business. The Rules Com­ were lost. mittee considered the m^ter at its silting held on the 28th October, 1978. It was decided that Calling Attention A transport aircraft of the lAF was notices might be kept alive till the end engaged in an Air Maintenance of the week. Mission to Leh from Chandigarh on an airlift operation of the kind which is In view of this decision of the Rules routine between Chandigarh and Leh, Committee. I propose to follow the specially during winter months. The following procedure: aircraft had Fit. Lt. A. M. S. Tanwar (i) All Calling Attention notices as Captain^ and six other members of received in a week will be kept the Air Force crew, and 70 Jawans of -alive and placed before me from day the Army as passengers. to day along with notices received upto 1000 hours on the day on which When the aircraft was approximate­ 2he notices are put up to me. ly about two kilometres short of the touch down point at Leh airport, it (ii) On the last day of the week reportedly spiralled down sharply to On which the House sits, the notices the right and struck the ground short received upto 1000 hours on that day of the runway. As a result v f the will be considered by me and all the accident, the plane caught fire and notices which are not selected shall suffered total damage, but what is be deemed to have lapsed and no more grievous, aU the 77 persons on intimation about this will be given board lost their lives on the spot. to the Members.

(iii) Notices received after 1000 In addition, one civilian lady wai hours On the last day of the week on hit by the crashing aircraft on the which the House sits will be deemed ground. She suffered serious injuries to have been received for the day on to which she succumbed sometime which the next sitting of the House later. is to be held and these will be valid for the following week. The weather en route and in Leh In other respects the procedure was satisfactory. The flight appears ■announced by me on the 6th December, to have been uneventful until just be­ 1977 would continue to be followed. fore landing. The crew of the aircraft were fully qualified and competent to 12.54 hrs. fly the mission; in fact, all of them had carried out similar missions a STATEMENT RE. lAF PLANE number of times before. CRASH AT LEH ON 19-11-1978 The exact cause of the accident is MR. SPEAKER: The Defence Minis­ not known on account of the serious­ ter to make a statement regarding lAP ness of the accident and the large 331 Air Cra^. at Leh (SU) NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Matters Under Rule 377 3J 2:

[Shri Jagjivan Ram] 12.59 hrs. number of valuable lives lost, a high level Court of Inquiry has KHADI AND VILLAGE INDUSTRIES been ordered under the leader­ COMMISSION (AMENDMENT) BILU ship of an Air Vice Marshal. The Extension of Time for presentation . Court of Inquiry will comprise OF Report of J oint C ommittee. flying and technical members with considerable experience in operation SHRI NARENDRA P. NATHWANI and maintenance of this type of air­ (Junagarh): I beg to move: craft, a representative of the Directo­ rate of Aeronautics belonging to the “That this House do extend up to Defence Research and Development the last day of the first week of the organisations; and the Director of Air next Session the time for presenta­ Safety in the organisation of the tion of the Report of the Joint Com­ Director General of Civil Aviation. mittee on the Bill further to amend The Court has already been put to­ the Khadi and Village Industries gether and is being flown out to Leh Commission Act, 1956”. today. It will go into the case or causes of the accident. MR. SPEAKER: The question is:

Soon after receipt of the report of “That this House do extend up to the accident, the Air Officer Command­ the last day of the first week of the ing^ Chandigarh visited Leh. The Air next Session the time for presenta­ Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Air tion of the Report of the Joint Com­ Marshal Dilbagh Singh, Western Air mittee on the Bill further to amend Command, has also left for Leh. the Khadi and Village Industries Commission Act, 1956”. Under the recently revised arrange­ ments, every member of the Air Force The motion was adopted. crew, as also all the Army Jawans who have lost their lives in this unfortunate The Lok Sabha adjourned lor Lunch air accident, will receive ex-gratia till Fourteen of the Clock. assistance of Rs. 1 lakh per family. Arrangements are being made to dis­ burse this assistance as speedily as possible. The Lok Sabha re-assembled after Lunch at eight minutes past Fourteen It is my painful duty on behalf of of the Clock. the Government to express sincere sympathy for the bereaved families, [S hri N. K. S hejwalkar in the Chair~ii to whom our hearts go out in sym­ pathy. May I also take this opportu­ MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 nity to express Government’s deep appreciation of the dedication and (i) Reported grant of P aper con * commendable sense of duty with which version Licence to S ehgal the Army and Air Force personnel P apers Ltd . concerned have laid down their lives in the cause of the Nation. MR. CHAIRMAN: Shri Dhirendra- nath Basu. May I request the House to express their homage to the departed Jawans SHRI DHIRENDRANATH BASU in this regard? (Katwa): Sir, I want to draw the attention of the hon’ble Minister of The Members then stood in silence Industry that the paper conversion for a short while. licence granted to a giant unit like Sehgal Papers Ltd. has threatened to 333 Matters wafer KARTIKA 29, t m (SAKA) Itule 377 m the very existence of whale of the these words I request the hon. Minister small scale sector of paper convertors. through you, Mr. Chairman, Sir, that Many of the small scale industries of he should look into the matter and paper convertors would practically be maintain the policy already announc­ closed down as a result of which ed. thousands of employees would be laid ofT or thrown out of employment. The (ii) Functioning of the Film Fin ­ federation of Association of small ance C orporation , the Indian Motion industries of India and the small P ictures Export C orporation and the paper conversion units of India have Hindustan P hoto Film s. protested against the decision of the government to grant licence to a large DR. VASANT KUMAR PANDIT unit for the paper manufacture pro­ (R ajgarh): Under Rule 377, I raise the ducts when the item is reserved for following matter of urgent public manufacture in the small scale sector. importance in the House. According to the Paper Convertors’ Association the total requirement of the country’s paper convertor is 150 Since the last one year, the func­ to 200 tonnes and the capacity of the tioning of the Film Finance Corpora­ j^iant unit to which the licence has tion, the Indian Motion Pictures Ex­ been issued is 10,000 tonnes of paper port Corporation and the Hindustan and the licence is for 900 tonnes for Photo Films have not catered to the pa^er conversion. If this firm is requirements of the Film publicity and albwed only 5 per cent of its produc- production units in India, the critical tio’i for conversion, it will work out to observations by the Film Production 50C tonnes of converted products with Industry, the establishment of National the result that even the small scale Film Development Corporation, the sector will be thrown out. damage done to Film Industry, the various criticism appearing in the film The Federation has argued that a journals and the processing in Labora­ ft)ant should not be allowed to go into tory units by the Film Division, the the field reserved for small scale confusion created thereby in the Film sector. Representations in this regard world by* undecided policies of the ware made to the Industry Minister Government, and the consequential and it has been explained that unless loss of confidence on Government it strictly implements its own reserva­ policies by the film production and tion policy for small units, the small distribution units and the action taken soctor would not be able to grow on by the Government to remove the healthy lines. In this particular case fears of the film industry and produce why there should be a different a homogenious, co-operative, policy policy? The Federation also wanted pertaining to the Films Division, to know the grounds on which the Exhibition and its Distribution. With licence was granted to the giant unit these words, I request the hon. Minister without protecting the interest of the to make a statement. small units. The Small Paper Conver­ tors’ Association also feel that if a sole manufacture of soft tissue paper (iii) Strike by P harmacists becomes a convertor he will not give the light material to other convertors who might be competing with the firm. ^ n rrrf^ 12 1974 The Association feels that their cases have been ignored and they have sent sift a number of complaints which have 4 2 5 -7 0 0 ^^01 been replied to, neither a chance stfH w ^ has been allowed to the Association for 20 meeting the InduMry Minister. With 2962 LS—13 335 Matters under NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Bolani Ores Ltd. 336 Rule 377 etc. etc Bill already at Boat Club today, just now. I would therefore request the Minister fw T *T«rT «rr ITTT concerned to make a statement there­ H ^ % VTTW on announcing the withdrawal of the Bill. Sir, the resolution was passed by qsi^ fa fgf ^ ^ Tiw, 3ft the delegates numbering more than T^*raT 7,000 employees of trade unions, in­ VT.WTHT'm I 6 5T^r«IT, 1978% iT5 cluding the trade unions which are connected with the Janata Party. 'TT t I ^ Vfemt And in this Resolution passed unani­ f t t I ^ I, mously they say as follows: «n: fK T ’(ft ^TTfOT % ^ TT ^ ^ I ?rtT »rr3r ir ^ “This Convention is firmly of the view that the Bill, if enacted, will be t?T *rar | fsr?r% 5 a death knell to democratic trade ITT ?r% I union movement in the country. It is also of the opinion that the basic frame-work of the Bill is such that any attempt to amend it will be an exercise in futility. The Convention, therefore, demands the withdrawal ^1 of the Bill and the enactment of a new legislation on the basis of con­ sensus of the Central Trade Union (iv) Reporteb resentment among THE WORKERS AND EMPLOYEES organisations, which will guarantee OVER THE I ndustrial Relations the fundamental rights of all em­ B ill. ployees to form trade unions and to strike without any restriction, which alone will ensure collective bargain­ SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE ing.” (Howrah): Under Rule 377, I raise the following matter of urgent public im­ Sir, the whole atmosphere is surged portance in the House. with a strong feeling and unanimously they have raised the demand that this There is widespread resentment pre­ Bill should be withdrawn. So, I re­ vailing among the workers and quest the Labour Minister to make a employees throughout the country over statement to this effect. The deputa­ the attempt of the Government to tion will meet the Speaker today at get enacted the Industrial Relations 2.30 P.M. Bill which will endanger the basic rights of the working class and toiling people of this country. 14.15 hrs.

To voice their protest against this BOLANI ORES LIMITED (ACQUI­ anti-labour attitude of the Govern­ SITION OF SHARES) AND MISCEL­ ment, thousands of workers and em­ LANEOUS PROVISIONS BILL ployees from all parts of the country have come to Delhi to pass a resolu­ THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND tion urging the Government to with­ MINES (SHRI BIJU PATNAIK): Sir, draw this draconian Industrial Rela­ I beg to move*: tions Bill^ in a convention arranged Jointly by several trade imion centres on 19th November, ,1978 at New Delhi. ‘‘That the Bill to provide for the They are also holding a procession acquisition of shares of the Bolani *Mx)ved with the recommendation of the President. 337 Bolani Ores Ltd, KAHTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) etc. etc. Bill 338

Ores Limited in public interest in lakhs and the liabiUties Rs. 562 lakhs. order to serve better the needs of the The private share-holding in Bolani nation and to facilitate the promo* Ores Ltd. of the Orissa Minerals De­ tion and development in the interests velopment Company which was origi­ of the general public, of national nally a private company is about steel industry and for matters con­ Rs. 40 lakhs. Because of this losses, nected therewith or incidental there­ we have proposed in this Bill to value to, be taken into consideration’. the shares at a nominal price of one rupee per share, that is, for 49,000 Sir, in this connection I also move an shares, the payment that would be amendment to the Bill that on page 2. made would be Rs. 49,000. It is around line 28, for ‘mineral’ substitute ‘mine­ Rs. 49,000 shares. This needs to be ra ls----- taken note of and I am sure the House and the persons concerned in that area, MR. CHAIRMAN: I think it will be involved in the Durgapur Plant and done at the stage of clause by clause its prosperity are quite well aware of, discussion. At the moment you have that this will have to be further de­ to move the Bill. Now, Mr. Vinayak veloped. The machines that have been Prasad Yadav's amendment can be planned for this area to make sized- taken. Is he here? ore are virtually lying idle because the company has no money. I have from AN HON’B L E M E M B ER : He is not time to time authorised Durgapur Steel here. Plant to advance large sums of money to these mines in order to enable them MR. CHAIRMAN: But if you want to go ahead. But, it cannot go on at to speak on the Bill, you can do so. this rate. Therefore, we have decided to take over Bolani Ores as a part SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: Sir, as I and parcel of SAIL and have it as a explained at the time of the introduc­ captive unit of Durgapur Steel Plant. tion of the Bill, this mineral ore area In view of this, I would request this is required as a captive mine to the House to take this Bill into considera­ Durgapur Steel Plant. It originally tion. was held by a private company and Uter on the Government held 50.5 SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU per cent share. The company has in- (Chittoor): I would like to know why t’urred heavy losses and is on the point the company was running into losses of closing down, which will, of course, and when it is taken over by the Gov­ throw thousands of employees out of ernment, how will it improve?, employment. We have assessed that the ore property is good. There are MR. CHAIRMAN: Not now; you can still over 300 million tonnes of deposits speak later. in that area. The iron ore is of good quality and it will serve the purpose Motion moved:. of Durgapur Steel Plant at the present stage and also in the future as and “That the Bill to provide for the when it expands. Because of the acquisition of shares of the Bolani losses incurred by this company, which Ores Limited in public interest in pven today supplies nearly a million order to serve better the needs of the tonnes of iron ore to Durgapur, it was nation and to facilitate the promo­ felt necessary in public interest to take tion and development in the interests this company in SAIL and make of the general public, of national ^ a captive unit of Durgapur Steel steel industry and for matters con­ ^lant. The total assets of this com­ necter therewith or incidental there­ pany have been estimated at Rs. 520 to, be taken into consideration.** 339 BoUmi Ores Ltd, NOVEMKER 20^ 1978 etc. ^tc Bill 34^ SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA machinery works to the detriment of (Serampore): Mr. Chairman, Sir, I the Company. It is not strictly a support the taking over of the mana­ Government undertaking. Just as the gement Of the Bolani Ores, but at the SAIL, Durgapur Steel is a Government same time I have certain apprehen­ undertaking. But will this Bolani sions. This is because our experi­ Iron Ore Mines be of the same stature ence shows that many plants, the Or position as the Durgapur Steel, in management of which was taken respect of financial administration and over by the Government, after other incidental matters? swallowing the money that is is in­ Mr. Patnaik is a very jubilant jected by the Government—the whole money is eaten up by the told manage­ Minister. At least he poses to be very jubi.Bnt. I ask him whether the ment in any shape—again become sick. ot^icei’s will continue as they are, but the Directors will not. What is the Here, in this case, it is good that in guarantee that there will be no under­ order to ensure regular supply of iron hand connections? The Minister has ore to Durgapur Steel Plant, Bolani to answer why he is not nationalizing Iron Ore Mines are being taken over it. and why he is keeping the services and these would be treated as a subsi- of the officers in tact, when he is not dairy or a captive mine of Durgapur allowing the Directors to continue. Steel Plant. It is good that it will W'no wi.l be responsible for the mone^y come under the management of the that has been swallowed by the old Durgapur Steel Plant, but nollur .4 i'? inuiraocment? mentioned in the Bill, how this unit will be run. How w’ill it be conlronei In his Statement of Objects and both on the financial side as well as Reasons, the Minister has said that the technical side? Nothing is indicated share.; have no value at all, strictly thare. I wull be grateful if the hon. speaking. As a nominal, token money Mir.istcr would clarify the Dosition. h2 i.c giving 'Re. l/- for a Rs. lOO^- y are we taking over this company? share. Why h’as this happened? It Why not nationalise it? Why is the is not as if this situation has cropped term ‘nationalisation’ not used? This up suddenly on a day. It was deterio­ company has taken a big amount of rating over a very long period of time. money from the Government. Who ir­ He was there to look after; but ne responsible for that at the present did not take any steps. These big moment, as the company is on the sharks are now very glad that thc^y verge of closure or is ractically closed are being left free, without any punish­ down. If you want to revive it, you ment for their misdeeds or rnisappro- have got to inject money, near about priation of funds. He is now coming 250 lakhs. One of the clauses pro­ forward with bill providing oniv vides that the old Directors of the com­ for the acquisition of shares; nothing pany will be removed, but the old offi­ more than that. You already have cers will be there. These officers are 51 per cent of the shares; and you the main henchmen of the Directors are taking 49 per cent now. Why don t who are responsible for the sickness of you turn it into a full-fledged G'jv- the iron ore mines. You have got eno- ernment undertaking? Where is gh powers. What steps or action are h?r? I am raising this question you taking to penalise those people bccause at my experience. So many who are responsible for the sickness of companies have been taken over. But the old managements, who were res­ these iron ore mines? The old officers ponsible for the sickness of the com­ ^yill continue even after taking over panies, are continuing merrily. They the management. What is the guaran­ go round the world with the money tee that they would have no connection that they got or misappropriated from with the old management? It is seen such companies. in many cases th^t when the manage­ ment is run under the supervision of With these reservations I extend my the Government, some under-hand support, because after all the Minister 341 Bolani Ores Ltd, KARTIKA 29. 1900 iSAKA) etc. etc. Bill 342 l^as thought it prudent to acquire the supervision of the whole establish­ shares that are still in the hands of ment is done in a proper manner. Why sume private persons. Government is should it not be treated as a subsidi­ now keeping a real control over the ary of the Durgapur Steel Plant? I management of the iron ore mines. hope the hon. Minister will sea to it also. Whenever such steps are taken You have to see the Durgapur Steel by the Government or there is taking Plant from that angle whicn requires over of the shares, normal compensa­ so much iron ore. My only appeal to tion is paid. Even though normal com­ you would be to scrutinise the persons pensation has been paid, of course, or the fellows who will remain there 10 manage the affairs of P.ant. this is quite understandable—but why You should always remember that the should we pay compensation at all? Whenever we come into the picture money that you give is public money and you must not allow anybody to iOr taking over such companies, when r.-’sappropriate even a single penny they are thrown out as sick units, then . :ncn is invested by way of rehabilita­ it creates an unfortunate situation. In tion of the plant which is not only your life time, it has come np. I app- sick but aiso dead. From the state­ lec-’LLtP it. ment, it appears that a share of Rs. 100 lia? got no value; it is almost nil. Now I w^ould like to point out sor.ie- thing regarding its management. By With tr.cse word?, I hope ihat Mr. putting the same people on the mana­ Biju Patnaik will clarify the portion gement who are managing the w^hole and take the House into confidence. aiTair. I very much doubt whether SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU they will be able to cope up with the (Chittoor): Sir, I will say only one whole atmosphere. With all the back thing and that is this. Nov/ the Com­ history and the whole tradition, how fai‘ they will be able to cope up with pany has not worked well. It is evi­ the attitude psychology and the work- dent; and aiso from the compGnsation ing of such an undertaking? So. that paid, we can easily understand that it point has to be taken tinto considora- h:;s Clone very badly. Now the Gov­ t'on becnuse we have to control a very ernment is taking over the Company. important Plant. So, this management 1 want to know what are the stcp^ idea has to be made very clear. The th'it the Government is going to take Directors who are handling the whole •"0 that the regular supplies are made thing could not be able to cope up to the plant and also the losses are with the whole problem. So, the que.^- averted. If he clarifies this, it will tion of the Directors and the manat^e- be better. ment has to be taken up very care­ SHRi K. A. RAJAN (Trichur): I fully. rise to support this Bill. The objec­ Then there is a question of indus­ tives which have been laid down in trial relations. When this system comes ^his Bill are quite clear. This Steel up, the workers will be very anxious Plant is a very important unit in the about their service conditions and steel complex in this country. But I other things. But their anxiety ha^ ’^ould like to p-oint out one or two been met in this Bill because their things on this particular matter. Re­ service conditions and other things are garding the take over, I would fully all ri^ht. But still I say that when sgree. This being a captive, a feeder this n'^w set uD comes up, the workers ^^J^it of the Durgapur Steel Plant, the should be made conscious of the efficient managenuent of this particu- psychology and the understanding of .^^r unit is an important thing because the new set ut >; and their handling of has got its bearing on Durgapur the whole affair in the steel plant is teel Plant. I would suggfest that it very important WJt^' that point in ^ould be better in the larger interest view, I appreciate if they are nnade the regular supply of ores if the more conscious of the new set up. 343 Botani Ores Ltd. NOVEMBER 20. 1978 etc. etc Bill 344

[Shri K. A. Rajan], pur Steel plant and if I may say so up, the workers should be made con­ Durgapur steel plant has now touched scious of the psychology and the un­ the nadir in several years. Mismana­ derstanding of the new set up; and gement and mishandling of the affairs their handling of the whole affair in there had been the worst in recent the steel plants is very important. years. Not only that. The other steel With that point in view, I appreciate plant near Durgapur, ISCO, Burnpur if they are made more conscious of is also unsatisfactory; three custodians the new set up. have come and gone; it continues to be in such a sad state. There had Then an atmosphere of good indus­ been a large number of complaints trial relations should be created and about various deals entered into by proper men should be put there. The SAIL, by the various steel plants and old people who did not do the things companies. There are allegations even properly or in a proper manner should against the Minister himself; there is not be put there. With these reserva­ an allegation that his son is in Birm­ tions. I support this Bill. ingham doing some deal for SAIL. I do not know the facts ___(Interrupt SHRI SAUGATA ROY (Barrack- ticms) pore): When I rise to speak on this SHRI BIJU PATNAIK; He is talk­ Bill, it is not with a mind to oppose the Bill because in our country, in ing of Indira’s son. this parliament nobody generally goes SHRI SAUGATA ROY: It seem:^ on record that he opposes acquisition that all politicians in the country, I of shares of taking over of any com- mean their sons are doing something pnny, the private enterprise are so or the other. ... (Interruptions) I urge badly managed and they are so unfair on the hon. Minister to devote more to society at large and to the workers time to this very important ministry that whenever the government comes and keep away rom his efforts at peace forward with a Bill to take over a making in his party, because steel particular undertaking it is welcomed industry is really in a mess. This is by all sections of the House. It is in not the occasion and I have not brou­ that spirit that I rise to support this. ght the facts and figures; on another occasion I shall tell the House of the The Bolani ores ^^-e^e fr.rmerly own­ very bad deals that had been entered ed by Bird and Company and then into by the Steel Ministry and SAIL later the government toc>k over the in various fields, whether it is steel management. Now it has acquired all ingots or stainless steel or other the shares of the Bolani Ores. With things. regard to Bird and Company there had been a lot of complaints in the The time has now come for taking past; there was an allegation of mis­ over the iron ore mines from private appropriation of money by this com- mine owners; some of them are Mr. any; an enquiry by the company law Patnaik’s friends. They are the %vorst department was there into the activi­ offenders. For satisfying whose needs ties of Pran Prasad, former chairman was there a price increase last year? of Bird and Company; it should be Price increase was granted to the completed as early as possible. entire iron ore mine owners. We should have complete control over the This Bill points out the very sad mines. In Bihar their exports are chan­ state of affairs in the steel industry nelised through MMTC but in Goa in the country, especially after Mr. Chowgules, Dempos and Salgaokars Patnaik has taken over. Bolani ores are tree to export iron ore. Those peo­ are to suwly iron oxe to th^ Durga- ple are looting the country. Industrial 345 Ores Ltd. KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) etc. etc. Bill 346 relations, conditions of workers there ing compensation to the erstwhile are the worst. The Minister has come management. I wonder why the with piecemeal legislation for a limited Government in this case should con­ purpose, for taking over one particular fine itself to the purchase of shares captive mine for supply of iron ore and why the OMDC should not be at cheap rate to one particular steel given compensation. plant at Durgapur. which is in itself in a bad shape. We urge upon the I would like to point out that government to take over all private the hon. Minister should endeavour iron ore mines and root out this thug­ to give an impression that he is a gery and corruption that takes place Minister of the Government of India in them along with the corruption and the interests of the nation are that enters the body politic. With uppermost in his mind and not the these words I support this Bill which interests of any particular segment. has a limited objective. I say this because of the need for ex­ pediting the execution of Salem Steel SHRI A. ASOKARAJ (Perambalur): Plant in Tamil Nadu. He should give Mr. Chairman, Sir, on behalf of my his personal attention to this matter party, the All India Anna D.M.K., and ensure speedy execution of this while extending my support to Bolani Steel Plant in Salem. Ores Ltd., (Acquisition of shares) and Miscellaneous Provisions Bill, I would I would also like to take this op­ like to say a few words. portunity to say that whenever such a step is necessarily to be taken in The very introduction of this Bill any other party of the country in the by the hon. Minister of Steel and interest of nation, the hon. Minister Mines, hailing from Orissa, has evoked should be ready to initiate legislative an impression that he wants to bail formulations. out the Orissa Government which has got its funds locked up in a los­ As has been pointed out by the ing concern. In the Statement of hon. Member Shri Saugata Roy, I Objects and Reasons, it is mentioned would stress that efficiency should not that the Orissa Mineral Development become the victim of any hasty tak­ Corporation has no further resources ing over. In fact, when a losing estab­ to make investment in this mine. lishment is taken over, there is great Sincc the Durgapur Steel Plant can­ need for revamping the entire ar- not be deprived of the ore from this ministrative set-up. I am sure that the mine the Central Government has hon. Minister known for his flair for come forward to buy the shares which innovation will do everything to see have no value at all in the market. In that the Bolani Ores yield profitable -ther words, the Central Govern- returns at the earliest. nient is relieving the OMDC of its financial constraints. In the interest In conclusion, while welcoming of Durgapur Steel Plant and also in this legislation, I would request the the interest of the nation, this has to hon. Minister to take effective steps be done and I welcome it. for expeditions execution of Salem Steel Plant and for removing what­ Here I would like to point uot that ever hurdles are there in this matter. when such losing establishments are I would also point out that he should taken over from the hands of private come forward to take over wherever sector, the Central Government are such losing establishments are there very considerate in the matter of giv­ in public interest. •The original speech was delivered in Tamil. 347 Bolani Ores Ltd. NOVEMBER 20, 1H78 etc, etc Bill 348 SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: I have care- efficiently. The Minister will agree fully listened to my colleagues here., that the Indian Iron and Steel Com­ pany is running at a huge loss. You MR. CHAIRMAN: I find that I did should remove the people who are not call Shri Dhirendranath Basu. in charge because they cannot run it Let Shri Dhirendranath Basu speak properly. I am surprised to find from first. the Report of the Public Undertak­ ings Committee that the guests and SHRI DHIRENDRANATH BASU entertainment charges of Jessops &

IHNi9f BHATTACHARYA; produced by it. And in another two You have hot mentioned It anywhere. years, we should double %is. For its raw material, we have revamped the Durgapur Alloys Steel Plant. The SHRI BIJU PATNAIK; It does not billets or the slabs will be rolled into need to be mentioned, because when I hot-bands at Durgapur and given to say SAIL will take it over, the pro­ this steel plant at Salem. We will be perty of SAIL will naturally come saving many hundreds of crores a year under the Board of Directors of SAIL. in foreign exchange. It is a technical Secondly, just as Kiriburu is the cap­ re-arrangement which I have made for tive mine of Bokaro and Goa is the Salem Steel Plant. captive mine of IISCO, this will be the captive mine of Durgapur under SHRI A. ASOKARAJ: I do not say the direct management of the Durga­ you not doing anything. i said, we pur steel plant. I do not agree with want more funds. Shri Saugata Roy that steel industry is doing badly, when SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: Funds will Durgapur had been runnin${ badly not solve the problem. It will need they were running the Govern­ technology. ment. I do not know whether in con­ (Interruptions) junction or in opposition to my friends, they just did not run that plant and My friend seems to forget that Kalinga they just played joke with that pl-*nt. is the crown of South India. I said It has now gone up with the coopera­ Kalinga is the south. The Orissa Gov­ tion Of the workers and the manage­ ernment has no investment in this. So, ment, to 73 per cent capacity as against there is no question of bailing out the 50 per cent capacity. In two or three Orissa Government. years, it will reach 100 per cent capa­ city. As far as the point of Shri Bhatta- charya is concerned, all I would say is that the Board of Manacjcment is Secondly, this property is very use­ going to be changed; it will naturally ful to the nation. It has got more than be with the Board of SAIL. The local 323 million tonnes of proved reserves. managers will continue; but if they are Apart from that, it has manganese found to be inefficient and not coming mines. We have not taken these into up to the standards of SAIL, naturally account for the purposes of assets be­ they will be changed. You need not cause these are leased areas. The have any doubt about that, beacuse I losses occurred to these mines especial­ am very fast in doing it. Sometimes ly in 1975 when purchases by Durga­ I am obstructed by my colleagues. pur were low and that is why, this company got into difficulties. Since In this context, it was mentioned I took over this company, we have that IISCO is losing money. It was been ftniticlng these mines. We have Rs. 30 crores last month... (Interrupt financed more than Rs. 2 crores. tions) Never mind having even two custodians, because in IISCO 42,000 employees were producing half a mil­ lion tonnes oiily. The cost of wages My friend from Tamil Nadu said Was Rs. 52 crores a year, which comes that I have not been looking after the to Rs. per tonne. In ahv modem Salem Steel Plant. I am surprised 1,000 fflant it should have very much that he does not seem to have followed been less. You have been pumping man that the Government before me, had into this plant, Mr. Bhatladharya. ^OTe or less dropped this steel plant. Under our care, it is picking up. In SHM DINEN BHATTAieHARYA: atiolher two or th r^ yeats. more than Your lop BhaMgem*nt is responsible 34,000 to 35,000 tonnes of ste^l wlU be for this. 351 Bolaiti Ores Ltd. NOVEMBER 20, 1978 etc. etc Bill 352 SHRI BUU PATNAIK: It is the sam« ing what was stopped earlier. This in the coalfields, in Jessops; and in Government had negotiated with the H£C you are thinking of a strike in workers many times, instead of sup­ which all your unions have combined; pressing them, as was done in the rail­ thank God. I hope there will be one way strike. Therefore, you cannot call union lor the whole country. That this Grovernment anti-labour. We have would be the best day for the labour restored many of them to their jobs. unions in this country. The Janata It will be unfair and uncharitable if Government would be happy to move you describe us as anti-labour. You out from here if aH the trade unions are doing it at your own peril, at the organise into one union for the whole risk of the next Government. Now the nation. But they will never do that. lady has come. So, we will continue to De here. . . (Interruptions) George will be the AN HON. MEMBER: We are not leader there and he will be here also. taking that risk. SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: So, you see In one ot the biggest engineering how pro-labour this Government is. factories in this country, the MEC, you have 23 unions. Can the union leaders SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA: tell me how they can run it? Can God You are sure the lady will come to run it? We have had a mini-Parlia- power? ment of workers for the steel industry SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: No, I am not where we had unanimously agreed to sure. I only say that you do not prve have elections and the method of labour her way with rose petals, if you wish management, method of participation to survive as labour leaders. at the highest level, everything was arranged. This has been reflected iri I do not wish to take more time. I this Bill. Some things need correction; think I have replied to mo.<;t of the that is why it is going to the Select points raised by the hon. Members. I Committee. But if you say that I m ust would request that this Bill be taken withdraw this Bill and come forward into consideration. with a Bill afterwards, which has in­ MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is': corporated all those suggestions, i do not think either you want it or it is in “That the Bill to provide for the the interests of the nation that it acquisition of shares of the Bolani should be done. Nevertheless, these Ores Limited in public interest in are matters for discussion. order to serve better the needs of the nation and to facilitate the pro­ If you say the Janata Government is motion and development in the inte­ anti-labour, well, God help you. rests of the general public, of nation­ al steel industry and for matters SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA: connected therewith or incidental Your Industrial Relations Bill exposes thereto, be taken Into consideration ” you like anything. The motion was adopted, SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: The Indust­ MR. CHAIRMAN: We will now take rial Relations Bill has gone through up clause by clause consideration the Joint Committee... (Interrupt Clause 2,— (Definitions) turns) We have seen many Boat Clubs. If the point about avoiding multipli­ 15 hT9. city of unions is conceded, then you SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: Sir, I beg can have the freedom to strike, of to move: course as the last resort. This Govern­ ment will concede you everything. It •Tage 2, line 28,- is not anti-labour. This Government for ‘*Mineral” m hstitute •*Mine- gave you 8-1/3 per cent bonus restor­ rals’’ (3) 353 BoUini Ores Ltd. KARTKA 28, 1900 (SAKA) etc. etc. Bill 354

As I said in my statement, it not Preamble only includes iron ore, but also man­ ganese. Therefore, the amendment is MR. CHAIRMAN: To the Preamble to substitute “Minerals” for Mineral”. there are certain amendments. SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: Sir, I beg MR. CHAIRMAN: It is just a cleri- to move: cal amendment. “Page 1, line 7,- The question is: “Page 2, line 28,- “/or Mineral^ substitute “Mine« rads’ (1) “/or M ineral” substitute ‘‘Mine­ rals” (3) “Page 2, line 1,—

The motion was adopted, for “Mineral” substitute “Mine­ rals” (2)

MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, I put clause MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is:. 2, as amended, to the vote of the House. “Page 1, line 7,—

The question is: “/or Mineral*' substitute “Mine­ rals” (1) “That Clause 2, as amended, stand “Page 2, line 1,— part of the Bill.” for “Mineral” substitute “Mine­ The motion was adopted. rals” (2)

Clause 2, as amended, was added to The motion was adopted. the B ill MR. CHAIRMAN: Now. I put the MR. CHAIRMAN. There are no am ­ Preamble, as amended, to the vote of endments to clauses 3 to 28 of the Bill. the House. So I put Clauses 3 to 28 to the vote of the House. The question is:

The question is: “That the Preamble, as amended,, stand part of the Bill.” “That Clauses 3 to 28 stand part of the Bill.” The motion was adopted.

The motion was adopted. The Preamble, as amended, was added to the Bill. Clauses 3 to 28 were added to the Bill, The Title was added to the BilL

MR. CHAIRMAN Now. I will put SHRI BIJU PATNAIK: Sir, I beg, Clause 1 and the Enacting Formula to move: to vote of the House. “That the Bill, as amended, be The question is; passed.'^

“That Clause 1 and the Enacting MR. CHAIRMAN: The question is: Formula stand part of the Bill,” “That the Bill, as amended, be The motion was adopted. passed.” Clause 1 and the Enacting Formula The motion was adopted. were added to the BilL 355 November 20, 1^78 Prize chits and 356 money circulation schemes (Banning) Bill 15j»5 hrs. nefit schemes, by whatever name cal­ led, should be totally banned in the PRIZE CHITS AND MONEY CIRCU- larger interests of the public and that UVTION SCHEME (BANNING) BILL suitable legislative measures should be taken for the purpose if the provi­ THE MINISTER OF FININCE sions of the existing enactments are (SHRl H. M. PATEL). I beg to move: considered inadequate. “That the Bill to ban the promo­ Miscellaneous non-banking compa­ tion Or conduct of prize chits and nies are of two types, namely, (a) money circulation schemes and for those conducting prize chits, benefit/ matters connected therewith or in­ savings schemes, lucky draws etc., and cidental thereto, be taken into con­ (b) those conducting conventional or sideration.” customary chit funds. The present Bill is cocerned with the banning of the This Bill seeks to ban the promotion promotion and conduct of prize chits, •or conduct of prize chits or money benefit schemes etc. The activities of circulation schemes and deals with the chit fund companies conducting matters connected therewith. conventional chits arc proposed to be regulated throughout the country for Government had constituted in which a separate Bi-1 w^ill be introdu­ February, 1969, the Banking Com­ ced. mission. One of the terms of refer­ ence of this Banking Commission was **to review the role of various classes Fo r the benefit of this House, may Of non-banking financial intermedia­ I explain the difference between these ries, to enquire into their structure two kinds of chits. “Prize chits*’ would and methods or operation and recom­ cover any kind of arrangement under mend measures for their orderly which the moneys are collected by growth.” This Commission had maae way of subscriptions, contributions certain recomendations in its R eport etc., and prizes, gifts etc., are awar­ submitted to the Government in Jan­ ded. The modus operandi is that the uary, 1972, for the restructuring of the company acts as the foreman or pro­ existing scheme of control over the motor and collects subscriptions in miscellaneous non-banking companies. one lump sum or by monthly instal­ After examining the recommendations ments spread over a specified period of the Coimnission, Government deci­ from the subscribers to the schemes. ded in principle that the existing sta­ Periodicaly, the num bers allotted to tutes and directions issued thereunder members holding the tickets or units to non-banking companies may be re­ are put to a draw and the member viewed to plug loopholes, if any, which holding the lucky tickets gets the were being taken advantage of parti­ prize either in cash or in the form of cularly by private limited companies. an article of utility, such as a car, sco­ oter etc. The “prize chit” is really a form of ottery. There is an unlimi­ W ith a view to examining this mat­ ted number of members bearing no ter in all its aspects, a Study Group relation to the number of instal­ was constituted by the Reserve Bank ments in a scheme. Once a person of India under the chairmanship of gets the prize, he is very often not re­ Shri James S. Raj to make specific re­ quired to pay further instalments commendations for taking further and his name is deleted from further action to implement the decision of draws. The schemes usually provide GovemnMBrtt Thift Study Group sub­ for the j^ tu m of BUt)scriptions paid by mitted its report t© the Reserve Bank the membean with or wiOK)ut m y ad­ in July, 1975. It recommended that ditional sum by way of bonus or pre­ •the conduct of the prize chits or be­ mium at the end of the stipulated per­ 357 Prize chits and KARTIKA 29,1900 (SAKA) money, circulation 35S schemes (Banning) Bill iod in case they do not get any prize. rupees contributed by the promoters/ Such schemes are known by various directors of th eir close relatives. names such as prize chits, benefit/sav­ U nder the facade of inculcating say* ings schemes, lucky draws etc. The ings habit among the public, these companies conducting prize chits have companies collect small amounts from very little, if any, financial stake of the gullible members of public with their own in the business they con­ promises of awarding prizes at per­ duct. They almost solely depend on iodical intervals besides refunding the the funds they colect from the public actual subscriptions contributed by for which they offer no security. them at the end of the stipulated per­ iod of schemes. Of late, there has 15.09 hrs. been a mushroom growth of such com­ panies which are doing brisk business [Mr . Deputy S peaker in the Chair] in several parts of the country especial­ ly in big cities like Ahmedabad. Bang- The ‘convention?! chit fund, on the lore, Bombay, Calcutta and Delhi. olhtT hand, is an old indigenous finan­ They have also established branches cial institution involving regular per­ in various States. Cases have come iodical subscriptions by a group of to the notice of the Reserve Bank, persons. It is, in law, a contract b et­ where these companies, after collect­ ween the subscribers and the foreman ing, sizeable amounts, by way of sub­ or miinager in-charge of the chit. The scriptions have gone into liquidation. contract gcncraly provides that the In several cases, these companies have subscribers shall subcribe a certain transferred their prize chit business to sura bv periodical instalments for a partnership concerns so as to escape definite period and that each subscri­ the restrictive provision of the direc­ ber. s:hall, in his turn, as determ ined tions of the Reserve Bank. by let or by auction of in such man­ ner as may be provided in the agree- The inspection of a few companies mt'i'il, be entitled to the prize amount. conducting prize chits/benefit schemes There will be as m.any periodical in­ cerried out by the Reserve Bank has stalments as there are members. The revealed, inter aVn, the following prize amount is the sum total of the features: ^•ontributions payable by all the sub­ (a) The companies had advanced scribers for any one instalment less sizeable amounts to the directors the discount an^ commision perscri- or relatives or firms in which they bec! by the rules. The prize-winner were interested as partners, direc­ is, thereafter, ineligible for any fur­ tors or as Commission agents and ther prizes although he has to continue there wereparticularly no repay­ to make the stipulated instalments for ments of the loans. the duration of the chit. These con­ ventional chit funds, therefore, are (b) The Books of accounts had essentially of a self-liquidating nature not been maintained satisfactorily. and since there is a mutuality of in­ terest among the small number of (c) Close relatives of the direc­ subscribers to each scheme, these con­ tors had been employed in the com­ stitute convenient instruments combin­ panies as members of the staff ing savings and borrowings. or as agents on high salaries. (d) In one case, it was observed According to the Study Group, that a scheme announced by a com­ most of the prize chit companies pany in which collections had been whose business is sought to be banned made was withdrawn subsequently by the present Bill are private Mmi- without notice ta subscribers and no^ ^ed companies with a very law capital refunds of the subscriptions already base amounting to a few thousand received had been made to the Prize chits and NOVEMBER 20, 1978 money circulation 360 35 9 schemes (Banning) Bill tShri H. M. Patel] with the promotion or conduct of any prize chit or money circu­ subscribers. Prize money had not lation scheme. The Central enact­ been paid to all the subcribers who ment >^'X)uld have the effect of had won the prizes; and repealing the existing State legisla­ tion in Andhra Pradesh and Madhya (e) Subscriptions had been shown Pradesh and in the Union Territory of to have been refunded in the books of accounts of a company but doubts Chandigarh. had been expressed by the inspect­ Sir, I have already taken much time ing officer about the genuinenss of of the House but I thought I should the payments in view of certain at­ place all facts before the hon. Mem­ tendant circumstances. There have bers for their consideration. also been allegations that some com­ panies resorted to certain malprac­ With these words, i move. tices in drawing the names of prize MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; Motion winners. m oved: “That the Bill to ban the promo­ (6) The Study Group came to the tion or conduct of prize chits and conclusion that prize chits or benefit money circulation schemes and for •schemes benefit primarily the promo­ matters connected therewith or in­ ters and do not serve any social pur­ cidental thereto, be taken into con­ pose. On the contrary, they are pre­ sideration.” judicial to the public interest and also adversely effect the efficacy of the Shri Vinayak Prasad Yadav—he is fiscal and monetary policy. There has not here. also been a public clamour for the planning of such schemes. This stems There are no more speakers. largely from the malpractices indulg­ SHRI LAXMI NARAIN NAYAK ed in by the promoters and also the rose— possible exploitation of such schemes by unscrupulous elements to their own MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You want advantage. Accordingly, the Study to speak. All right. Group recommended that the conduct x)f the prize chits or money circulation ^ w f f TTTnrTj: ‘schemes, by whatever name called, should be totally banned in the larger interests of the public. The Bill seeks 'to acheive this object. 1978 I , # ^ ^nr^JT (7) Under the prposed legislation, f I ?rr«r ^ Jf t irf the existing promoters of the schemes ^ will be allowed two years* time to 12 wind up their business and the State % t »RTT I % Governments have also been vested I eft 2 ^ «nrfsr ^ with powers to grant extensions of time in consultation with the Reserve t I Bank. It provides for severe penalties t wirm % ftrif for those who contravene this ban. ift fvqT I (ft t irmr ^ f«p Provision has also been made for any police officer not below the rank of an 2 ^ «nfsr *pff ? t Officer in*charge of a police station or I ? rft ^ ^ any officer authorised by the State ^ Government to enter into and search the premises which are suspected to ^ ^ I f Tiave been used for purposes cannected ^ I ?ft 36X PTize chits and KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) money circulati/on 362 schemes (Banning) Bill

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4 i w n ? f r »ns 5ft T w ’P5T s ^ t^ 4 i^ ^ • ^npftfhi ^r 365 Prize chits and KABTEKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) money circulation 366 schemes (Banning) Bill grfNvm ^JRTT *nif % snr | It is not completely a lottery. For conducting this, the management used ?fk ^ i ft? ^ ^ to collect a commission of, say, Rs. ^ ?nTt?3t ^rff | 1 tice of the hon’ble Minister that there are lot of complaints against our pub­ lic organisations, such as, LIC, etc. ?nft ^ ir ^ So, I would like to request the hon’ble ^TI^ft f ) 3 ^ WT I ’ STT^ Finance Minister, to take note of the 51^ ^TTciT, %?rT t problems of the small men and look into it. ^ ?rrer jtt ^ ?rw 5pm *n 3fterr|—^ ^ frr ?rm a«R-n 5rmr^ wre»ft f«nr (ftftwrry:) : VRTT § — ^ iTKT ^ W t m ert IT *T«(t aft f h srTJTtft I a?T ' ^f ^ fH pr I f r ^t»T ^ spmf ^ 11^ JT«tT afr P w ft ^ fv v r I OTNr Trff ^ 5^5^ if ^ SIW ^ m iiw ft 5TT^ 'rfiPl I srt 3 ? ^ ^ 5>T fO 0+ % «l'>1ln ytT ^ t I tnp ?RT ffWt 5TSTR ^ ^ I 31^ ^rrcfl- =5FRft-1, ^3^ Jr W5T |? n mT?r | ^ Jf ^ 3TPn =^rf^ I ?ft ^ «ftfT 3J?TT ^5T ^ T I — 5Tt ^ 'PhH TT5Ffrf 3iT[T m f^ w ^ % ^rrtr % ^r ^ fr«r 5T^ T {^ ?r^rcTT ^rfr ftr ?mT ?PR ^ ^ cR' ^ ^?rr fir^T, ^ ^ ^ i t u r p r f f SPT ^iTT ft^TT t — ^ ^ t . ? n ^ ^-RTR ^ ?T5Tf % ^rrs!T Jf ? n n ^ ^fnsrr g ? Jr m ^ ir Is ^ gw t, m ^ 11 ^5T?f ^ r ^?TT !TT3r g?TF3r PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR ^T fV «K5T ?T%W at the federal level but at the State level, this kind of exploitation. It is ^ 4T|ft|!fl' ^ ^ I ^ % fir*T;»r ?!■ a natural desire get extra money somehow, anyhow, if possible through some kind of gambling. That instinct % 1»V ^ ^TftFT f w 3TT ^PRTT has been there in human beings. In­ t. ? ^ ?n:^ ^ f W ^ if ^TFft stead of regulating that thing, the ^ »rnT ^ 5Tt w % Government at the federal level as well at the State level, went on en­ v w 95A I 5i5?r finff 5n> ir(hr couraging this! Therefore, I hope that f I 5?rftr^ ^ jj? =^»rr fsp it is only the ftrst major step in the 371 Prize chiU and NOVEMBER 20, 1978 money circulation ^72 schemes (Banning) Bill [PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR) which I see from the layman’s point right direction and the Hon. Minister of view will be filled up by further will come forward and see to it that legislation, if necessary on the same further stringent measures, legislative lines and in the same direction. a- well as regulatory in terms of ne- ctssary rules and regulations will be Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, the Mini­ taken by him and the Government so ster of Finance also said in his state­ that this is put an end to once for all. ment and I quote:

Mr. Deputy-Speaker, I am glad that “Prize chits would cover any kind the Minister’s Statement of Objects of arrangement under which moneys and Reasons is very well worded and are collected by way of subscrip­ puts the matter succinctly. In this con­ tions, contributions, etc. and prizes text, he refers to the Report of the gifts, etc. are awarded. The prize Raj Study Group which was submit­ chit is really a form of lottery.’' ted in July 1975^ I quote:

Sir, I am glad that this point has 'In its report submitted to the dawned upon the Government that Reserve Bank in July 1975, the these Chit Funds are nothing but a Group observed that the prize chit/ kind of lottery. All life is lottery, of benefit/savings schemes benefit course! There is an element of gam b- primarily the promoters and do not link in every thing. Whore we go and serve any social purpose.” what we do is also a part of gan'ibling, perhaps, but that is a I think nothing is more true than this matter of natural destiny and what­ and that is why I am wondering why ever comes by way of our natural des­ we should have taken lime in order tiny, we accept that, but whatever is to understand this. Now, Mr. Deputy [gambling in terms of human instinct^ Speaker, you will see what the promo­ should Government and should social ters do. What have they been doing legislation and should social sanction all these years? They are not only col­ and should public opinion encourage lecting small amounts from a large and promote these .elements of gamb­ number of people but they give the ling'’ This is the question to be asked. prizes to a fraction of people from whom they have taken the collections. 1 am glad that this legislation is Therefore, it is not even a prize. I step in the right direction in which the am not here to go into mathematical Government is now telling, and the calculations. If a promoter collects Parliament is also telling the people from 500 people a certain monthly that gambling, though natural, is not instalment of a certain small amount necessarily justifiable. It is a natural of one rupee or five rupees, then over instinct like many other natural ins­ a period of five or 10 years, he will tincts, but this instinct has to be reffu-* collect more than enough to get back laled, curbed and controlled and, there­ his money and the people who have fore. let the Minister go ahead with been paying willingly and regularly policies and programmes of habits of all the time would get only fraction of small savings, habits of thrifty habits it by way of prizes or benefits. So, I of economy, habit of putting part of the feel that the Bill is in the right direc­ little money that a small farmer or a tion. But I am an expert in law mak­ commoner earns in small savings. The ing to point out lacunae in the Bill. As fixed wage-earners, the middle claSf a lay man, as a Member of Parliament, men in the urban areas all should de­ plus the Law Ministry. I do not have velop habits of saving, whatever they I can look at the Bill. The Minister can. Even if a man getting Rs. five per gets the assistance of his Ministry day can save twenty pase per day and either, but I hope that the lacunae use that in Goyemment national saving 373 chits and KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) money circulation schemes (Banning) Bill scheme or some kind of other saving are only two, there are many more in scheme, that would be indefinitely Gujarat and still more in the whole greater in benefits. and indefinitely country. All these need to be effective­ deeper in terms of benefits to him and ly controlled and curbed and banned. I the community than all the chit funds am glad that necessary steps are being and the benefit companies that are taken in this direction. I hope the Min­ giving all kinds of prizes in lotteries. ister will see to it that the operation of chit fund companies which has been The whole point is that poor people going on in this country for so many and the middle class people have been years is properly controlled. In fact, continuously at a loss. I am ashamed one might say that the tribe of chit to admit that some of us, knowingly or funds has been increasing in geometri­ unknowingly, have been perhaps a cal progression, one after the other. party to this kind of situation wherein This was because there was no social promoters come in the name of helping law, no control and no legislation. The the poor, hospital or other services etc. Reserve Bank was helpless and the and, therefore, some of us, willingly or banking operations were helpless and unwillingly, I would say, knowingly or the people and the public opinion were unknowingly—but some of us complete­ unfortunately helpless. I am glad that ly unknowingly—habe lent our bless­ the public opinion, the people and the ings and good wishes to some of these Parliament have been awakened to the promoters because they said that they problem and the challenge. Let us hope would take small amounts from the that the Government will go further in people and the money that is collected this direction in greater detail so that would be used for hospital or other si­ if there is any lacune in this bill, that milar purposes. All that is bogus. The is removed, public opinion is created promoters are exploiting the ignorance, and Government sees to it that instead the poverty, and as I said, the natural of the people going to these chit funds gambling instinct of human beings. All and lotteries, they think in terms of these people are exploited by the pro­ hard work. Sir, as a matter of fact, moters, who are clever people, and they unfortunately, in our country, hard and their family members amass, grab work is never rewarded. People who he lion's share, rather much more than 1 work hard do not get any reward, no that. A paltry sum is distribution matter in whichever walk of life they among fifty or hundred people out of are. What we want is more hard work one thousand, two thousand or five and more hard work to be rewarded thousand persons who contribute the more and not giving some prizes to a whole fund. I feel, we must put an few gamblers here and there by throw­ end to it. ing chits and prizes. That must stop I wonder, if Shri H. M. Patel would and people must know that hard work recall that in Gujarat particularly, is the only way through which to be­ there have been, I am sorry to say, a come prosperous in terms of the wel­ large number of such benefit compa­ fare of the individual, in term? of the nies. They were not, in fact, benefiting good of the families and in terms anybody except the promoters and I of the strength of the State and of the have gone on record in asking several whole country. People should work questions in practically every ses^n of more, and do more hard work. If that Parliament on the steps to be taken by is so, all aspects and avenues of gamb­ the Government to see that these chit ling and other forms in which lottery ^und and benefit companies are put an is there and easy money, quick money end to. Shri H. M. Patel will recall and cheap money is there, all that that in Gujarat—I do not want to give must be eliminated altogether so that ^11 the names—there are companies only hard work is rewarded. The peo­ Santosh, Vijaya Bond and many ple may be rewarded through habits of others. The fact that I am giving only small savings and such other proposals two names does not mean that there which, I am sure, the Finance Minister 375 NOVfiAIBBR so, 1973 money cimtUitiMt 39^ schemes (Banning) Bill (PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR] ^ i ^IM *1 with his expert knowledge in banking % f® ^ ^ t ^ ^ ?n <5 and financial operations will be able to bring forward. Through them, he can ^fqiTT ffVr-SfK' SrsFTT ^ 5T>ff ^ ^ enable the poor man, living even in a ^ l^'T TT?rf TT5T^ ^ ?rrft)3- jungle—not to talk only of urban areas —country-side and far-off places to ^f^cT ^ ^?fV I ?TRT ?rm obtain such rewards by encouraging #?r?: ith r jfRTt I ?fk ftfp" ^ habits of small savings and thrift in j n f B T 5Y irk ^ ft ^rfii’frrd w him and, by using the funds so created for national purposes. 'HIT ^5RTT I I ?JTT fsTffiRP It is from these angles that I warm­ TT hIsiP'^mi ^ ^* 11% ly welcome the Bill. I only hope that, ^ Tf I I # «TT «rrr though he could have done this earlier, at least now he goes faster. ^ ^ *pt 5-7 Sr strhtt i pHdrft ^ ^ ^ qX TTWfNr^T 3WT% % 5r^TJT ^<1+1 ( 11 ^>T ^rPTT'®nf5^‘*TT 1 HKrl ^ ^ iftT’H’ ql^il ^ ir ift vvrfw ^ ^ 4 +<^ arf t ^rnf m zfW ^ ^ q r w % l : i |?TR ^?rt I ?TW^ ^ ?ik ^ ir$®snVElHf'Ff ^■q*i fw r I t ^ ^ ^ ftr^nTT ^ I ^'V ^qd" ^ I if«T^ jmr fn»' W ETFn* « rar^ f f r 'ST'SHTT5 ^ ^ ^ n w t 3ft wl^«(+iO t ^ TT^ Tra' f v n r ^ 1r, f^rnr ftitJir, «FPm »m HFtPT ^ 51*5 ^ ^ I ^R^»TTTTqTTT^^?d»rf, fiTVvCT I in s r ^ lr ir # TV %1 jsfW g f ^ % TTC-T’T ^ ^ ^^<11 ^ r ^5rmr I ?rm 3 r^ JFtf 5mr ^ ^ ^ 35 I t I,* 5T>

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MR. DEPfUTY-SPEAKI^i: The ques­ Clauses 13 and 14 were added to the tion is ; Bill.

'That the Bill to ban the promo­ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Clause 1. tion or conduct of prize chits and The question is: money circulation schemes and for matters connected therewith or inci­ ‘‘That clause 1 stand part of the dental thereto, be taken into consi­ Bill.” deration.” The motion was adopted. The motion was adopted^ Clause 1 was added to the Bill.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now we MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques­ take Up clause by clause consideration. tion is: Clauses 2 to 11. ‘‘That the Enacting Formula and The question is: the Title stand part of the Bill”

“That clauses 2 to 11 stand part The motion was adopted. of the Bill.” The Enacting Formula and the Title The motion was adopted. were added to the Bill.

Clauses 2 to 11 were added to the Bill. SHRI H. M. PATEL: I beg to move:

Clause 12— (Transitional provisions,) “That the Bill, as amended, be Amendments made: passed”:

Page 6, Itoe 45,— MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- for “or document” substitute — ‘‘or ticn is: arrangement** < 2) ‘'That the Bill, as amended, be passed.'’ Bage 6, line 47,— for “shall refund” substitute — The motion was adopted. ^‘shall, within such period as may be prescribed, refund” (3) 383 NOVSM98R n 1 0 7 i Britannia 3npineering 3S 4 Co. etc. etc. Bill 1&99 ^ over by the Central Grovernment fuul entrusted to Saxby Farmer Lixaited^ BRITANNIA ENGINEERING COM­ Calcutta—Government of We$t Bengal PANY UMITED (MOKAMEH UNIT> Undertaking, in which they have $7.75 AND THE ARTHUR BUTLER AND per cent share-holdings. The Grovem- COMPANY (MUZAFFARPORE) LI- ment of West Bengal have taken over MITED (ACQUISITION AND TRANS­ all financial responsibility. As I have FER OF UNDERTAKINGS) BILL already $aid, the steel foundry is now being managed by IRCI. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN The Mokameh unit closed down in THE MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY March^ 1973. The Central Government (SHRIMATI ABHA MAITI): I beg to took over the management on 15th inove*: February, 1974. The unit was set up with a gross investment of R$. 46.1T “That the Bill to provide tor the lakhs without separate capital etruc- aequisltion and transfer of the ri^ht, ture. The number of its employeeSt title and interest of the undertak­ when it was closed down^ was 888 ^nd ings of Britawia ^Dtineering Com­ at present 831 persons are working in pany in relation to the Mokameh unit this unit. owned by it and the right, title and interest of Arthur Butler and Com­ A rthur Butler & Co. (Muzaffarpur) pany in relation to the undertakings Ltd. was incorporated in 1919 with its owned by it, with a view to ensuring registered office in Calcutta. It has the continued manufacture of rail­ only one manufacturing unit in Muza* way wagons and other goods essen­ ftarpur. In the past Arthur Butler and tial to the nwdf ot the country in Company manufactured various types general and the Railways in parti­ of industrial machinery. When it cloe- cular, and for matters connected ed down in 1972 it was one of the only therewith or incidental thereto, be two manufacturers of metre ^auge rail­ taken into consideration.” way wagons. The management of this company was tal^en over by the Cen* The Bill which I want to move deals tral Government qn 14th Pece^iber» with the nationalisation of the two in­ 1973 and it was reopened in Augu; 9t» dustrial units—Britannia Engineering 1974. At the time of its closure the Compei^y limited (Mokameh Unit) and number of employees was 657. Ifew the AtVnxv Butler end C^fnpany (Mu- 650 persons are working there. zalfarpore) Limited. Now it is in public intertfit that both Britannia Engineering Company Li- the units continue their manufacturing Biited was incorporated in 1917 with activities beotUie they provide substan­ its registered office at Calcutta. It tial employment and the closure would owned an Engineering Unit at Titagarh rende^ a le w number of lebo^r^ ip and thi« unit manufac­ employed. Both the imits are located tured road rollers, Jute mill machinery in the anaaa of Bihar, fe, apd indust^l macWoenr.. This it is not possible band avmr ttose company also owned a steel foundry two units to the private management at Titagarh; which is now being manag­ as substantial Ci^ero^n^ } f ^ e ed by IJEtC.I. BrtU^imie E o ^ e e rin g been given to these units. There is no Ccmpany Limited algo set up a third such maimer In whldh these can be unit in Mokameh in 1960. Mokameh protected by private management It Unit manufactured Jlailway wagons is, therefore, necessary that these units and steel structurals, etc. The Engi­ be acquired by GrovemiBent by pay­ neering Unit at Titagarh closed down ment of compensation. Since the in 1970 and its management was taken take-over of their manag^ent, both

♦Moved with the recommendation of the President 3 $ ^ Britannia fnginei^ng KAIOTKA 9». IWO (SAKA) Co. rtc. etc. Bill 386.

the ui^ts have b^n performing sati^ wagons and other goods essential to factorily. They have also taken steps the needs of the country in general to diversify and maximise their pro­ and the Railways in particular, and duction. Recently a study group has for matters connected therewith or been appointod by the Department of incidental thereto, be taken into con­ Heavy Industry to suggest ways and sideration.” means for fuller utilisation of the ca­ pacities of the fabrication units under SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYA : the administrative control of the de­ (Serampore) : Mr. Deputy-Si>eaker, partment. The study group has also Sir, I support this Bill, but while sup­ carried out an in-depth study of theje porting I have got some observations two units and their report is nearing to make. While concluding the Minis­ completion. We are hoping that fur­ ter state^l that the Mokameh \mit is ther actipn will be taken for improve­ being nationalised, l?ut fro^i the Bill, it ment of the functioning of these two do^s not appear so. You a^e acquiring units after we receive their report. the shares; you not nationalising the unit. When we nationalise any unit we have to pay compensation. In these Long back, the same company had two cases, the compensation fund Is their uint in Titagarh in Wecrt Beagal not sufficient to meet all the liabilities which was recommended by the Cest-^ and a part of it has to be written off. tral Government to be taken over and 55o, it is proposed that a part of the afterwards, the West Bengal Govern­ Central Government loan be written ment was to be made incharge of it. off. The first two priorities for pay­ The Saxby Farm er which is a Wes* ment out of compensation fund would Bengal Governitient concern is looking be employes dues and post-takeover after that Titagarh unit. Since then, it secured loans from banks and IFCT. was naturally expected that ttie other These liabilities total Rs. 94.99 lakhs units belonging to the same company thus leaving a balance of Rs. 195.56 would also be taken over. I do not lakhs for payment of Government dues. know why so much delay is there in Therefore, out of total Central Gov­ taking over these units. ernmental loan only Rs. 195.50 lakhs would be paid to Government and the balance of Rs. 230.75 is to be written There are same alarming features. ofT Alt^ou^h the Mokameh tmit and Bri­ tannia Eng^^iog Works are I hope, this Bill will receive support ed in BRanu/acturing railway w a^ s. from all sections of the House. steal struotui^, undei^^a 9l#«, min naarfwfW, africuitwaJ J»pl^ mexrfs, etc. yat these ar^ i n m r i i ^ With these words, I move the Bill lossfw. Us main k the Ball- for consideration of the House. way. Why should it run at a loew I do not understand. Not only in this MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Motion case but in other cases also, it has ^oved: been ibund th a t the Railway while' purebasing wagons from difVereat wa­ “That the Bill to provide for the gon producinip imits does not pay the^ acquisition and transfer ol the di^t, actual price. So, those units also run at title and interest of the undertipcii^s a loss like. Burn & Co., Braithwatte, of Britannia Engineering Company etc. When the Government conoem is in relation to the Mokameh unit own- the main purchased of the products of by jt and, th^ right, title and in­ a company, how that company can terest of Arthur Butter and Conipany suffer loss, is beyond my knowledge to in relation to the undertakings owned und^stand. So, there is something it, with a view to ensuring the wrong in it. It should be clarified by Continued manufacture of railway the Minister. 3?7 Britannia Engineering NOVEMBER 20, 1978 Co. etc, etc. Bill 388

[Shri Dinesh Bhatacharya] The Minister said at the end of her Coming to the question of compensa­ speech that this unit is being natio­ tion, I do not understand how this nalised. In that case, I am grateful Company management become eligible to her. But the present title of the for compensation. This Company was Bill, Britannia Engineering Company earlier running at a profit. Because of Limited (Mokameh Unit) and the the mismanagement and corrupt prac­ Arthur Butler and Company (Muzaf- tices of the managment, it had become farpore) Limited (Acquisition and sick and xUtimately the Government Transfer of Undertakings) Bill, does are coming in as a saviour. I do *^ot not give that impression that it is know whether the Government are being nationalised. So, I would request coming as a saviour of those persons her to make a change in the long who deflacted and who were respon­ title so that there may not be any sible for making the unit sick. In doubt about the performance of the every case it is found that the compa­ Government. And it becomes very nies manage their affairs in such a way clear that the Government is really that ultimately they have to incur and sincerely taking over this Com­ losses and then in the name of saving pany to run it properly and the entire the employment of the workers and in management who were running it for the name of production, Government a long time will have no chance to come forward to take over manage- come back. tmeni and, while doing so, they pay compensation to the same persons who With these words, I support the Bill. have eaten away the entire capital as 16.32 hrs. also the aid or loan given by the Gov­ ernment. So, there is absolutely no justification for giving the management of the Mokameh Unit Rs. 1.95 lakhs as compensation. So, I cannot support ^ f ^ r *nn’ this provision. I , t ^1 * r w ^ ^ I I do not want to go into the details. *r3ffT, ^ There are some lacunae which should be looked into. But I want to make one point very clear. Those persons % who were at the helm of affairs when this mismanagement took place, those who were responsible for making these imits sick, should be categorically f ftr ^ made clear that they will have no I ’flTT sftr ?rr>r access to the accounts or books of this company. ^ 3TT? JPTTJfr ^ eft ^ ^ ^ f s n t i Then the conditions of service of those employees who were in service pricHT to the take over should be fully guaranteed It is my experience that *(■ ?T>ft whenever Government take over any «ft ?rmT?r » i m ^ imit, they do not want to t ^ e res­ ponsibility* for the pre-take-over liabi­ ferT»pn I ?5T ^ ^ lity to the workers. The workers should not be made to suffer merely I i ^5rnr w % ^ ?rrT ^ because a unit has been taken over by the Goveinment. ^nf^, qm ?nn?n 389 Britannia Engineering KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) Co. etc. etc. Bill 390-

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* SHRI K. A. RAJAN (Trichur) : drain on the public exchequer and the While supporting the Bill I would like worker will also suffer. In many caSes to make a few statements in my own the Government steps in after much language. Normally nationalisation of procrastination. As a result of this the such organisations are supported by workers starve and the production the workers whichever Government suffers. does it. But I am sorry to say that quite often it so happens that the Gov­ Another point I have to make is ernment takes over such organisations about the post-take over management after a great deal of delay. Generally of these organisations. Only those speaking the Government comes for­ people who have sufficient experience ward to take over an institution after in running them and above all those the private management has played who keep the interest of the country ducks and drakes with institution. and the workers uppermost in their Often the Government chooses to ig­ mind should alone be entrusted with nore the warning given by the wor­ the new management. If on the other kers of such institutions through agita­ hand the Director Board is packed tions. They draw the attention of tne with the agents of the capitalists who Government from time to time to the have mismanaged and ruined these miserable conditions prevailing in institutions we cannot expect any good those institutions well in advance. But result from this new set up. unfortunately, the Government does not pay any heed to their warning. The result is that when it takes over Another point in this connection is this organisation what the Govern­ that the Government should see to it ment inherit is its liabilities. The that the employer-employee relation­ factory would have been reduced to ship should be put on a healthier mere junk by continuous exploitation plane. When the Government take and through mismanagement indulged over a private institution which has in by the private owners. And these been mismanaged, a new approach and organisations will be utterly useless. a new perspective should be adopted Therefore, while supporting this mea­ in respect of labour relations. The sure I would like to tell the Govern­ Government should project itself as a ment that they should see whether model employer and the public sector these organisations which depend upon institutions should be areas where the institutional finance for its capital model employer-employee relationship are running properly and efficiently does exist. I cannot help saying one and also whether the management is thing in this connection. That is, that capable of discharging its responsibi- whenever the Government takes over ties towards the workers. In fact, an organisation the general impression during the last 10 or 20 years the capi­ is that that organisation will be ruined talists in our country have ruthlessly at the hands of the Government. I am exploited many private organisations sure it is the management which is res­ and drained them of their pith and ponsible for creating such an impres­ marrow. The result is a sector of sick sion in the public mind. units have grown up in our country over the years . Then naturally the Now, a word about compensation Government has to stop in and take and I have done. As I have already them over and put them on even keel. pointed out these organisations have Therefore I hope that when the Gov­ been ruined beyond redemption by ernment takes over such mismanaged the private management. But the institutions they will see to it that Government proposes to pay them these institutions work properly and compensation. I must make it very efficiently. Otherwise this will be a clear that I am totally opposed to this

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It has been seen that man/ of the undertakings like the Heavy Engineer­ ^ ^ ^—Ji? ^?r ing Corporation, the National Jute ^RW Jr Hlft in I I JT? Mills and the textile mills under the National Textile Corporation and other ^ f^JiT 9i?r «tt: 3»n?n undertakings are running at a loss. «rr^ Jr i ^ Mainly they have explained, ‘We are ^ Jr ?> running at a loss due to shortage of power and shortage of raw materials/ inft ^ ?n ^Tvrf^'i That is not the only case. The case is- q T ,iif-^ ? srCtS-'rf^TJTT TT that most of the resources have been pumped out by the previous manage­ ment. I want to point out in this «% I ^ ^ *r^TT — particular instance that when the cT? ^ ^ ^ 5tt^ «rtT Britannia Engineering Co. Ltd., West Bengal was taken over, the promoters^ Jt ^ I I Jm uT^ had got Rs. 16 crores as compensation by way Of assistance from the CentraT Government. The value of the assets ? , ^ i t I, should not exceed Rs. 11 crores. When ^ iTfft ^ ^ f t c n discussions were going on, after one I I year, it came to Rs. 16 crores. Almost all the assets or almost all the resourccff were taken out by the management.

fipiN iftr 17 hrs. |ii«ffi #A («vy ( m m x Now these should give us a warn­ ing and the Government should come forward to see that the management runs the concern—the public sector undertaking—properly. We welcome Rnj : ??T Vt the nationalisation of industries; we « R n n ^ ^ fv ^ ^ welcome also the taking over of indus­ ^ f^5T9T ^ tries. But at the same time, we have to see that the nvinagement runs it wm 5r ?T^ WT I I perfectly well and runs it efficiently. In the Thrteenth, Fourteenth and Sixteenth Reports of the Committee on SHRI DHmENDRANATH BASU Public Undertakings, they have men­ (Katwa): I would like to point out to tioned that many of the public u nder­ the hon. Minister that almost all the takings like the Indian Iron and Steel, government undertakings are now B ritannia Engineering Co., Heavy^ running at a loss. From the statistics Engineering Corporation etc. are also sui^Uied to the ContfuUative Com­ running at a loss. The Britannia Eh- mitted on Finance I found that the gineering Company, within a short goveimment undertakings have given time, spent over Rs. 6 lakhs for enter­ a loss of Rs. 950 crores. If such losses tainment expenses, and for travelling continue, I do not know how the gov­ expenses. And Jessops is also running ernment will run. at a loss. If such big units are run at a loss and if they spend money extra­ Now what I want to suggest is that vagantly, how can they run efficiently? the management should be reshufled and the Board of Directors reconsll* Therefore, Madam Chairman I tuted with persons of technical know- would like to suggest that the mana­ lu>w and men of high integrity. gement should, at once, be resliuffl 6

^nd persons having technical knowled­ by Government. I want to know ge, persons having administrative whether such an exercise has been knowledge only should be fiivei the done or not. Whether this unit will powers to manage these concerns. be profitable in future has to be seen. Otherwise, these will also be run at a Then, Madam Chairman, when this loss. The hon. Minister ^11 bear me unit is manufacturing metre-gauge, out that after the sick textile mills railway lines and we are turning our were taken over by the Government, railway lines into broad-guage, I hope they have become sick. Doctors are Government will consider into the as­ generally called for recovery of the pect of manufacturing the required patients. Why are they callei after gauge. These are some of the problems they die? So, to stop such thing, we which are posed. Likewise, some of should in the beginning, after taking the companies were taken over in over the Mokameh Unit of the Brita­ Bhavnagar, namely^ Alcock Ash Down nnia Engineering Co. as also Arthur although in this case the labour had Butler & Co., try to see whether they taken an important part and there was are running it properly or not. We encouragement from Member of Par­ must not only look to the interests of liament Shri Prasannabhai Mehta also. the employees but we have also to see Now, Mr. Chairman, the past mana­ that the moneys are not extravagently gement of these companies does not spent. This has to be seen. With give a good picture to us and Govern­ these words. Madam, I suoport this ment has taken enough care for pay­ Bill. ment to the labour and other creditors in the Second Schedule and before SHRI VINODBHAI B. SHETH (Jam­ giving compensation—which will be coming from government coffers— nagar): Madam. Chairman, I am very happy to learn that the Government is Clauses 25, 26 and 27 are acquite satis­ taking over the management of the factory but I would like to request the Britannia Engineering Co. ns also the hon’ble Minister to see that such per­ other one. I have to pose son«e prob­ sons do not go to the court of law. If lems. When the sick units are taken an amicable settlement can be arrived over, why the tax concession, deprecia­ at across the table, it will be good. tion and other benefits are taken only 8here were serious charges that some by the healthy units—I do not know items from the inventory were missing this. I do not know whether Govern­ Heavy penalties are purposed to be ment has given the option to hand imposed on such persons. over these industries to the private or So, Madam Chairman, in general, I over these industries to the pnvate support the Bill and hope that what company or to take them over straight­ is often said that the nationalised com­ way because in the past, the perfor­ panies have a ight to enter into losses mance of the company has not been will be belied and this company havini? very good. Whether the Government fine units and nrianufacturing essential has obtained the project report or commodities will ultimately be profit­ whether it is going to be a viable unit able and declare some dividend in the or not—the memoranduc does not near future. throw any light on that. MR. CHAIRMAN: The Minister What was the final valuation of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TH« shares on the appointed day and whe­ MINISTRY OF EDUCAION. SOCIAL ther the valuation of the shares was WELFARE AND CULTURE (SHRI- taken on the asset backing method and MATI RENUKA DEVI BARAKATAKI) if so, what are the a^ets of the comp Madam Chairman, the Minister is not any? Such balance ihli^ts should ac- feeing vreVL. Can WP postpdne this coiiiban^ In future. This is my sug- I t ^ ; tot some time ^ t^l 4 up tbfr I eompahles are taiten ovirir nejct item on the ai 407 Water (Prevention NOVEMBER 20, 1978 and Control of 408 Pollution) Arndt. Bill .,r MR. CHAIRMAN: If all members These amendments are meant to re­ agree, we can hold over the discussion move those shortcomings. and take it up tomorrow and mean­ while take up the next item on the It is hoped that once these amer.*l- agenda. ments are passed, the Boards will be in a better position to discharge their SOME HON’BLE MEMBERS: Yes. functions and control pollution.

MR. CHAIRMAN: The Minister will During the last session, the Hoube reply to the discussion tomorrow and had the opportunity to corjsid=?r the then We will take up Clause-by Clause Air (Prevention and Control of P llu- consideration. tion) Bill, 1978. At that time it was mentioned by many hon. Members, and also by me. that an integrated ap­ 17.10 hrs. proach is being adopted to CL>i:trol environmental problems. Acco'*dingly^ WATER (PREVENTION AND CONT^ the Water Pollution Control Boards, ROL OF POLLUTION; AMENDMENl estabHshed under the 1974 Act, are BILL. being authorised to perform the func­ tions of air pollution control also. MR. CHAIRMAN: The House will now take up the Water (Prevention For this purpose, it is nece:**sary lo and Control of Pollution) Amendment amend Sections 36 and 37 of the 1974 Bill. Act to enable the Boards to spend for air pollution work also. These amand- Shri Sikandar Bakht. ments have been included in the pro­ posed Bill. THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND HOUSING AND SUPPLY AND RK- Besides this, as per Section 4 of the HABILITATION (SHRI SIKANDAR 1974 Act. the Stnte Governments have BAKHT): Madam Chairman I beg to to constitute their State Boards with­ m ove: in six months of the comin® inio Torce ‘That the bill to amend the Water of the Act in their States. But un­ (Prevention and Control of Pollution) fortunately some States cou>d n 't cons­ Act, 1974 be taken into considera­ titute the State Boards. They have tion.” not done it. Some other States did set up the Boards but this was after As hon. Members are aware, Parlia­ the expiry of the time-limit. ment passed the Water (Prevention and Control of Pollution) Act, 19/4» Therefore, to enable these Beards to with a view to protect the whoiesome- come within the orbit of legality, some ness of water and to control the pollu­ amendments are proposeH in the exist­ tion of rivers, etc. ing Bill. The other amendments are only minor and consequential. Hence, For that purpose, Central and State I \^x)uld request the hon Members to Boards for pollution control have been permit consideration of the Bill. established in most States to imple- ment the provisions of the above ct. There is one point wh’ch is very Industrial units and local bodies have important which I should like to clari­ been asked by the Boards to treat their fy. Many hon. Members have expres­ elRuentg and sewage to prescribed sed the view as to why there should specifications before they are let out be piecemeal legislations with regard into the rivers. The Boards have also to different types of pollutions, and (Started prosecutions of defaxilters. that there should be one comprehen­ . As a result of the operation o£ th^ sive legislation to cover all forms of above Actj certalix drawbacks have environiA.ental pollution. We have con­ •ccne te the notice ot the G o v e m m ^ t. ceded the point, but there have been 409 Water (Prevention KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAXA)----- and LortW l 6J i f o Pollution^ Amdk 8o me constitutional difficulties. (Inter- SHRI SIKANDAR BAKHT: I was ruptions) There is no doubt that it is pointing out how the Bill was passed a very desirable thing to have one com­ on behalf of the State Governments mon legislation to cover all forms of and in what manner the Air (Preven­ environmental pollution. But there tion and Control of Pollution) Bill was are some constitutionr^l difficulties introduced in this Parliament in 1978 which are coming in the way. and this was done within the power of the Parliament itself under Article 253 Now, water is a State subject. The of the Constitution. The matter was Water (Prevention and Control of Pol­ examined by an Expert Committee in lution) Act, 1974 was pass.^d by Par­ my Ministry with the representatives of liament.. . concerned Ministries, and it was decid­ ed that for the present the integrated SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH approach can be achieved by a single (Nandyal): There is no quorum in the implementing authority drawing autho­ House. rity from separate laws. Though a single law would have been most de­ sirable, because of the Constitutional MR. CHAIRMAN: Lot the hon. restraints, we cannot but have different Minister resume his sea^ laws but the implementing agency is The quorum hell is h.'ing rung.— one and the same. This is how we propose to give effect to the integrated Now, there is quorum. The Hon’ble approach. Minister may continue. With these words, i move that the Bill to amend the Water (Prevention SHRi SIKANDAR BAKHT: Madam, and Control of Pollution) Act, 1974 I was pointing out that the necessity may be taken up for consideration. was ^elt and very rightly so that there should he one comprehensive MR. CHAIRMAN: Motion moved: legislation for all forms of environ­ mental pollution. But as I iaid, there “That the Bill to amend the Water was a constitutional constraint in en­ (Prevention and Control of Pollu­ acting one comprehensive legislation tion) Act, 1974, be taken into tfbnsi- on this subject. Water is in fact a deration.” State subject and the Water (Preven­ MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. Vinayak tion and Control of Pollution) Act, 1974 Prasad Yadav has tabled an amend­ Was passed on behalf of the State ment. He is not here. Mr. Raja- Governments under Article 252 of the gopal Naidu. Constitution. However, as Air Pollu­ tion is not confined to any one State SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU boundary and as the U.N. Conference (Chittoor): Madam Chairman, I want on Human Environment called on all to know why this Bill is being piloted member countries to take steps to pre­ by this Ministry instead of entrusting serve the natural resources including it to the Health Ministry because it i® clean air, we have brought in the Air a technical subject pertaining to health (Prevention and Control of Pollution) and it is better if it is transferred to Bill^ 1978 under Parliam ent’s own the Health Ministry. power. MR. CHAIRMAN: The Minister can MR. CHAIRMAN: I would like to reply to this point at the end. remind the Members and would draw their attention to the fact that when SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: The they are requested to come here for hon. Minister has said that it is a quorum purposes, they are not sup­ comprehensive Bill because the Air posed to make it a noisy affair. Now, Pollution Bill has also been introduced* the hon. Minister may please continue. Then what about sound pcJlution? 411 -Wa^er (Prrt>ention NOVEMBES 20, 1978 and Control of Pollution) Arndt. Bill AN HON’BLE MEMBER: It is in this. I would, therefore, request tte the Lok Sabha. hon. Minister to see that this measure is properly implemented and these SHRt P. RAJAGOPAL NAIDU: Es- effluents are not allowed to be dis­ peciaDy in Delhi, it is very difficult charged into the rivers. to bear the sound created by the vehi­ cles, trucks and other things. Here, Due to urbanisation, the difficulty is it is said that this Bill is brought for becoming more and more. All the three purposes. One is to legalise the nighl-soil is being dumped very near State Boards which have been consti­ the rivers and when the rain comes, tuted after the time-limit. The second everything flows into the rivers. Even point is to appoint a Chairman on a the sewage water and the ditch water part-time or full-time basis because is being let into the rivers which a^e some State Governments have said that not perennial. These rivers flow only it is difficult to appoint a fuH-time for One week or ten days and all this Chairman. The other thing is that the contaminates everything and the water. various State Boards will not only I would like to know, what steps are perform functions relating to the pre­ being taken by the Central Govern­ vention, control and abatement of water ment or the State Governments with pollution, but they would do so with regard to this. regard to air pollution also. These are all good things, for which we In Section 16 of the 1974 Act. under congratulate the hon. Minister. But powers and functions of the Board, it what about the implementation part of is stated that it will: it? There are many Acts on the Statute Book without proper imple­ “provide technical assistance and mentation. As we know, this Act is guidance to the State Boards carry not being properly implemented and out, to sponsor investigation and the industrialists are b3T)assing this research relating to problems of and are polluting the river waters. water pollution”. Here pollution has been defined: What about the research? What is ‘Pollution’ means such conta­ being done in the States or at the mination of water or such alteration Centre. Is it not possible to encourage the physical, chemical or biologi­ the Universities to conduct research cal properties of water”. with regard to these things and point some of the trained personnel We have to prevent this pollution. But in the Universities for this purpose? W hat il being done in this respect, I the fact is that the industrialists are polluting the river waters without any would like to know. action being taken against them. For Then further, it is stated: example, at Chittoor in Andhra Pra­ desh^ there is a factory manufacturing alcohol and they are allowing the ^'organise through mass media a industrial effluent to go in the river and comprehensive programme for the it is causing much harm to the people. prevention, control or abatement Of It is emitting a bad smell and it is not water pollution” possible for the people to take river Further, water. There is np provision for suffi­ cient drinking water in Qhittoor town. *The Board may establish or Even after five years’ agitation, the organise a Laboratory or laboratories Government is not takioc any active to enable the Board to perform its steps. Even after th« Cofl^otor having functions under thig Section''. Issued th m a notice, they continue to pollute the river vrater and are going Though the Act speciftes so scot-fnse. Tliere are many cases like thtngs^all these ate quite ambitiouer*« 413 Water (Prevention KARTIKA : 9 , 1900 (SfAKA) andCantixAof 414 Pollution) Arndt, Bill y e t these are not being translated into “POLLUTED STREAM PARALY­ practice. My question is that what- SES CATTLE *ever has been stated in the Act must be fulfiled. It is said that there must Environmental containation by the he instruments or a machinery to effluents of the lead-copper project .treat the elfluents: but the instruments has resulted in a peculiar disease to which have been kepi there, are noth­ cattle—paralysis of limbs followed in ing but show pieces. They are plac­ some cases by death—in a village in ing these things, only because it is so Vinukonda taluk in Guntur district, provided in the Act. They are not Andhra Pradesh. This is the conclu­ able to treat the water. In many pla­ sion of the scientists who investigat- ces we see that aquatic life is destroy­ ted the phenomenon. The State ed; in addition, the cattle which dring Board for Prevention and Control of the water also die. Such water be­ Water Pollution has directed the plant comes injurious to health. Though the authorities to treat the effluents, to Government is having a very good conform to safety standards/’ scheme, it is not being implemented. So, 1 request Government to imple­ ment the Act, So that the objects for 5?ff- which the Bill has been introduced, ^sft ^TrTT ^rTtT^rr srt are fulfilled. fw r jriJrirr cwr % 3r«r »ro Tm ift ) : ?TT?r ^TnT'S ^"T SJTTt it K T# - 51‘Tf'Tfd Hf'KiTr, HJTfZTT it q|iT »Tflr'R *rt I I eqTn it n f f T # ir ?ft ir STffTcT f m ^ ?JT ^ f ® % ^ «rr i %r^:?T I ITo tTJT TrTr sr?rr | — qTT n?j sfrti ^ ?frT w k ftnrr «rr i “A World Health Organisation sur­ R 5rrr3TT «ir JT^f vey in 1976 indicated that more than ?ftT ^ ^ I halt of the inhabitants of the Third World are not served by any regular water supply system. Even the eft t s r rl | f«F capital city of Delhi, pampered as it 3rr'TT?T 1 1 5 1^ fsp 5f?r?r ^ is in many ways, faces a water crisis •every summer/' ^T'^t Kft?«Tr? ftra” ?T*nT ^>r ITJTT^T IT? I % ^ i*rT srsff I ?Kf5r<^ ^rr fsffin ^i»rr ^pt 5fT f n M sr^TT’: I : ^ H ^ I ?TT5T ‘‘Now, therefore, inpursuance of rim «fr sfi clause (1 ) of Article 252 of the* ?rr I I 5T^ ^T s r ^ ’ii Constitution ...... *’ ^ JI5H I fK 5p ^.7-^ I I tTf: «fV ^ T I JTf ^ ' i fTT srfnjfTfjTrT ?flT ^ThT I JT ^V %f*T^f=T ?T> frfrS-KlT^W !?;t «ft ff TMt *rm *^r, sf^^Ttrr »nTT % t. I ?»rT?iTr fW rV n 1i3 \ H i l ^ 3fi f r I % sff a' f^viiTv « ? w1- ?fVJTt TT ^JT*T f ^ i r a i l tmTJ qTTrifTifr *rrrr | i ?TTHT5f Jr iTT=fr I 1 2f ??f 1T3T5(1^ » m srr m\x ar^t p.rV jf?R f ^ T " 5‘t I WI'R ri f ^ i n ?i«rr % ^:t ? rm iff fspiT I ?t> : i& . 5mn?r »ir« % jh | i ^ it? t?« JT^ FT inn t I?>fT i . 417 Water (Prevention KARTIKA 29, 1900 (SAKA) and Control of 418 Pollution) Arndt. Bill sfssri ^ ?iT«r ^ no improvement has taken place. Cattle that go and dring the water fJT ¥ ^I*T«Tn i I in the rivulet polluted by the water from the factory die even today. DR. SARADISH ROY (Bolpur); Nothing has been done. I want to Mr. Chairman^ I support the Water know how that Act is being imple­ (Prevention and Control of Pollu­ mented, whether anyone had been tion) Amendment Bill. According to taken to task. It is four years since the reasons stated here, it has become it was enacted. necessary that this Bill may be amen­ ded in order to implement it in the Take Calcutta and West Bengal and States. There are certain lacunae. the Ganga waters, especially now-a- After the adoption of this Bill, they days after the development of indus­ have not constituted their State Boards tries in Durgapur. There is the Damo- as per the provision within six dar river. Government undertakings months. So, this requires that this are also polluting the waters of the provision of six months should be river. On both sides of Ganga in­ deleted and amended on the original dustries are there; everyday they are Bill. polluting. Some steps should to taken. 1 want to know what steps Regarding the appointment of a the industries have taken; what Chairman, So it provides for a full steps central boards have taken. time Chairman. But some . States The Bill refers to laboratories, which have got the financial capacity we want to know how many labora­ or do not require such full time tories suitable to do this work are Chairman, there is a provision that there? What antipollution measures they can have a part-time Chairman. are to be taken. They should advise I fully agree with these amending the industries regarding the treat­ provisions in this Bill. ment of polluted affluents. What attention has been given to this as- pet of the matter so that pollutents Sometime back they also intro­ are treated by the industry. On duced a Bill for air pollution; where many occassions industrialists say a provision is there for the committee that there is no technology to treat for state boards a central boards for the water. Before the establishment water pollution, they will also look of an industry, they should advise the iiter the implementation of provisions industry to make provision for the in regard to air pollution; that also treatment of polluted affluent. It requires to be implemented in this should not be after the establishment Bill. As such we support the amending of the industry. Before the grant of Bill. But the principal Act was licence, government should insist on passed by this House in 1974. It would provision of treatment of polluted have been better if the Minister had affluents. I think certain dilution is come out with a note enlightening us being made in Clau.se 10 seeks to am­ how that Act had been implemented end section 21 of the principal Act. It till now. Water pollution has not refers to samples being taken and decreased. Industrial houses have placed in a container and sent for ana given no attention to the provisions lysis and so on. of w ater pollution Act and we have not heard of a single case where in­ But this amendment as provided .is dustrial house had been taken to task like this. A proviso has also been for violating the provisions of the given: Act. You have not mentioned Birla’s factory. I was one of those in the ‘*the cost incurred in getting such Select Committee on water pollution. sample analysed shall be payable We had been there recently. The by the occupier or Jiis ^gent and same condition prevails over there; in ase of default of siali payment^ 4 ^9 Water (Prevention NOVEMBER 20, 1978 and Control of 426 Pollution) Arndt. Bill [Dr. Saradish Roy] revenue or of public demand; H tn JPTT | ufyT case may be, as an arrear of land revenue or of public demand: t 5^nf f ® fJT?Jnr 9HF ’HIT ^

Provided that no such recovery shall be made unless occupier or, as Cr *nn I % the case may be, his agent has been I tT^ ijttq sfffTift »T5r< 5frq givn a rasonabl opportunity of being cTtT T3rrTTf:^ 1 “in case of default of such pay­ ment, the same shall be recoverable I ffr 'T^ from the occupier or his agent, as ^ iT^ ^ tT r^JTT ?ft" w 'TT*ft the case may be, as an arrear of 5't 3iT[Tif> I q-^ land revenue or of public demand.” ITK?)T n ff I I IT? Then the proviso is there which KTtt *T€nr | says— "TT f H I: ^ “has been given a reasonable op­ portunity** Though provision has T ^'T sYf: f:?: by this provision to (b). n |f ?TfT ^ 1 W5T irrT Is it not giving some leniency again fap srirf^^T jp 'fT to the big tycoons? cnr^T ^TiTr ^ srr ?rtT

I would request the Minister to let 7^5137151 Jii ^r^mr % us know during the last three years TT ?lrrr | ?fT % 5ft how many cases have been detected and brought to book in which there has been non-implementation of the spr |*rr 'tt f»TT *rf i provisions of this Act. How many ^fST Jr fTT 3I>T «Tim JT^ »TT well equipped laboratories, as pro­ vided in the principal Act, have been f»rT »rf I w r'r^ Trn ?5TT^ established throughout the cotmtry so I ? VrT w^rfn fTT 5HT t | | that this polluted water can be ana­ lysed and treated in a short time and JT? 3fir f | «tt isft remedial measures an be taken. What T«2T?WPT?5ft ?«rr^ ^ $ I scientific arrangements have been ^ ^ ITT ^ WTCT made to treat the polluted affluence. t WfTr I , Sfnfl fIWT5T wr^rr t ' ^ ^ » r r ? r w i f t iTftCT, f n r r % t , it f a r 'Tferr I I ?rrT frfftaw f t ^ I « rr^ ^ 5«rr fW?r f t *r^ ? ^ firr arW ?TT TT ^ Water (Prevention KARTIKA 29, 1900 {SAKA) and Control of 422 Pollution) Arndt. Bill v tftm ^ 5rn7.»fr rw % it*F % qi5fn n^f 1^ SiTfrr I ^ ' i ^"t ?T3r# §T I , ^ % ^ fsTJTifV ffTrpft g i ^ ^Vjfy ^ r f ^ , aft 'It TlJft *r «T ?W T ?T5rr ?TTf n^f 1 1 !ifi«r% 7 | I , n H^f TTf: qrJi»T 1 5ft I fsR^T spw ^'r ^JT JT^ : | 1 v»it sT f1 1 I ^ ^ff^'t *ni q ff rfv ^ 5'f ^ ' t % ^T«I VTa^r^T h m f r «rtv w»TT sa? Jr ^ if »w *if rff fs>T ?r?, f<«fti ^fr?3 fST^gr ir »if i IT? i^«pir?T 1 1 TIT r ^ fr'fimJTd |

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