2013-11-11 the Buddhas Last Days Mon, 9/7 10:59PM • 41:21
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2013-11-11 The Buddhas Last Days Mon, 9/7 10:59PM • 41:21 SUMMARY KEYWORDS buddha, king, stories, life, monks, die, discourse, practice, meditation, turmoil, statue, teaching, thought, age, discovered, attack, religion, world, human, war SPEAKERS Gil Fronsdal So Good evening, everyone. And can you hear me all right? Everybody's good. Okay. One of the primary ways in which religious teachings are conveyed by religions is through the stories that they tell. And people tend to remember the stories and celebrate the stories of founders and different events, the religion and Buddhism is no different in that it has stories that it tells that are meant to convey some of the teachings and some of our existential condition of our lives. And one of the great stories is the story of the last days of the Buddha's life. They say that in the history of Indian literature, the there's one text called the it's called the Mahāparinibbāṇa Sutta, the sutta on Buddha's final passing, which is an account of his last 6, 7, 8 months before he died, and it's the first oldest record, we have an India, of something, anything like a biography of a person, anything kind of like an account of someone's life that unfolds. So it's kind of a new genre of the times. And what scholars have said is this account of the Buddhist last day was not been was not done by a court reporter who was there to record everything down verbatim, but rather was something that was built an attitude over the centuries. Because what religions do is they tend to come up with new stories. And they sometimes forget the new stories are invented and they add them in and they create a collection of wonderful stories that the religious tradition lives by. And so, this text is very large text called the, the discourse on the final passing of the Buddha is made up of many small pieces and through it you see, and how in the ancient world what they thought was important to retain an important way of teaching what was the important message, what was important way of remembering the Buddha. And what's the one thing that is interesting about this text is they try to get cut out dramatically try to get it both ways. They both try to present the Buddha and very human terms, more than almost any other, you know, as a huge vault many volumes of ancient discourses, and the Buddha never quite seems human. You know, he's human, but, you know, he's not depicted in having, you know, somebody that's normal human emotions and things. He's very kind of independent and free or, or, you know, economist in the middle of it all. So, it's This last tech shows much more human and much more human situation. And interspersed with that is him being somewhat superhuman. And so for example, he has to cross the Ganges River. And how do you cross the Ganges River if you're a great founder of religion, you fly over. So a variety of things, you know, kind a little bit more superhuman. What I'd like to do this evening is to tell you some of the more human side of what was written down. We don't know again, this really represents the Buddha. We don't know what represents the Buddha, we just know we have these stories. And what you're going to get today is modern Buddhist, choosing those stories, which I think are significant. And what I'm going to choose is those stories that depict him more as a human being, and if you tease apart some of the stories, and kind of look behind the kind of in between the lines of some of the things are being said, you get the next Count, that the Buddha in the end of his life was living in a time of tremendous turmoil. The world that he knew for 80 years was many ways falling apart. And here he is falling apart himself as an 80 year old man sick and old. And, and you see kind of this, this whole situation to society and him facing certain kind of transition for him, his sake, his death, and then how he composes himself This transcript is machine generated and may contain errors Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 4.0 License audiodharma.org 1 how he goes through that what he thinks is important at that juncture in his life and how he dies, is part of his message. It said in this Theravada tradition that there are four four heavenly messengers these are considered kind of mythic ideas of what can very auspicious things that you can see, that inspires people in their practice that inspires people about the importance of, of facing existential issues of our life in order to kind of find our peace with them, or liberation with them. And these four heavenly messengers are sickness, old sickness, old age, and death. And then the fourth one is a renunciant, someone who has found a way to live peacefully in the midst of this life of sickness, old age and death. And in this discourse, last days of the Buddha, the Buddha is the Heavenly Messenger for all four. He's, yeah, he's sick, you'll see. He's old. He dies. And he's a renunciant. And he's someone who has lived a life of peace of liberation or freedom. So you know, the story kind of carries a lot. This ancient story conveys him as an old and sick and person in pain, very different from the statues and images that survive. Buddhist statue. through the ages of mostly wanting to depict the Buddha as a relatively young person radiant fleshy uprights straight straight back, nice smile. Probably this is a statue we have here is depicting him. The night of his awakening is sitting in meditation. And it said that he was about 36 at that time. So you know, well, well, you know, healthy looking, upright, 36 year old man kind of looks good, right? And the statues you suggest that you see it looks even younger. And it's very, very rare. I don't even actually know if there are statues of the Buddha as an old man. I guess people don't like to represent their, you know, their founder, their, you know, over the religion and you know, decrepit old guy bent over. You know, you want to you want to have an image that represents your religion. Well But you kind of get the wrong image a little bit, you get the wrong impression of life if that's all you see, you don't get the heavenly messengers of sickness, old age and death in the same way. So, before we get into the story, in this text, I'm going to tell you, there's a context for it that you can with that little bit interpretive, but I'll tell you, what's the interpretation and what comes from most ancient texts. There is a discourse where a king comes to see the Buddha and his name is Pasenadi. And he was contemporary to the Buddha, they were the same age. They're both 80 years old and the story and the king learns that the Buddha is not so far away within a day's trip from where he is. And so he gathers a few people together and goes out to this, to see the Buddha and it's this king was probably of all the key of that area there are a number of small countries. This King was the one who is probably the best friends with the Buddha they known each other It seemed like most of their lives. And so they were friends and would regularly conferred with a king of the king conferred with the Buddha and things. And here they are to 80 year old men, that King learns that the Buddha is nearby. He makes a trip to go see him. And then when it comes to the woods, where the Buddha is Buddha still living in some wooded area The king has as Minister with him and maybe an army with him small you know, personal army to protect them or something. But when you go see a Buddha you go see a great religious figure, you usually don't carry with you your sword, your weapon, right you take your your AK machine gun and put it outside before you go into, you know, into the church right and most people don't carry the machine guns with them. So the king took his sword which is his turban. Both of those also represented were symbols of his power. And he took those off. And he gave them to his minister. He goes into see the Buddha. And they have a chat and the king says it's really great. We've known each other for a long time. You're an old man, you're 80 years old. I'm an old man, you're eight years old. This is all taking place in the, in the foothills of the Himalayas, or the border between his country and where the Buddha was born. And the Buddha is back in his place his home country.