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LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)
Second Sessioo (Eighth Lok Sabba)
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Eighth Series, Vol. IV, Second Session 1985/ }907 (Saka) No. 26, Thursday, April, 18, 1985/Chaitra 28,1907 (Saka)
COLUMNS Oral Answers to Questions' *Starred Questions Nos. 486 to 489, 491 to 494 and 496 1-26
Written Answers to Questions:
Starred Queltlons Nos. 490, 495 and 497 to SOb 27-38
Unstarred Questions Nos. 3463 to 3627. and 3629 to 3656 39-211 Papers laid on the Table 213-216
Elections to Committees 217-218
(i) Court of the Aligach Muslim University 217 (ii) Governing Body of the Indian Council of Medical Research 217-213
(iii) National Shipping Board 218
Matters under rule 377- 219-225
(i) Need to provide fundi for Talcher Super Thermal Plant and I. B. Valley Thermal Project of Orissa 219-220 Shri Sriballav Panigrabi
(Ii) Demand for instructin& the ODA to annual its Resolution passed earlier requiring the DeM to shift (he Mills from non-conforming area. 220-221
Shri Lalit Maken
(iii) Need to clear the Blsalpur Irrigation and Water Supply Scheme uumedlate1y to provide drinking water and irrigation facities in Deolt Tebsil (Rajasthan) 221 Shri Banwari Lsi Bairwa
(iv) Need for setting up a Television Transmission Tower at Lakhimpur Kheri in Uttar Prade.h 222 Shrimati Usha Verma
* The Sign t marked above the name of .. Member indicates that the question 'Was actually asked on the floor or the House by tbat Member. II )
COLUMNS
(v) Need to help West Bengal Government 10 thAt measures (or relieving drinking water scarcity in Midnapore and other adjoining districts could be taken up urgently. 222 Shl'imati Geeta Mukberjee
(vi) Shortage of electricity in Rajasthan and need to run the two UllIts of tbe AtomiC PJwer Plant at K,")td properly as also supply power from Sinarauli Thermal Power Plant. 223 Shri Vinlhi Chander Jain
(vii) Need to provide a :220 KY power tIDe from Ramagundam Thermal Power Project of NTPC to Warangal dIstrict of Andhra Pradesh 224
Shri C. Janga Reddy
(viii) Necd to increase the amount of housebuildinc loan for the houseless poor 225 Shri p. Peochallish
(ix) Need to ["ctain the former limit of financial assistance of Rs. 5,000 which was being given to the poor Harijans for improving their health and social and economic conditioos. 225-226 Shri Mahabir Prasad
Domands for Grants (General), 1985-86-Contd.
(i) Ministry of Irrigation and Power-Contd. Shri B. Shankarand 226-253
(.i) Mini&try of Industry and Company AffailS Shri V. Sobhanadreeswara Rao 25_
Shri Banwari Lal Purohit :!63-266
Prof. K. V. Thomas 266-269
Shri Nirmal Khattri :269-271 Shri Ajoy Biswas 271-275 Shri R. Jeevaratbinam 275-278 Shr; R. Prabhu 278 -283 Sbri A. Charles 283-287
Kumari Mamata Banerjee 287-291
Shri R. Annanambi 29J-2~4
Sbri Uma Kaat Mighra 294-296 Shri Girdhari La) Vyas 296-299 ( iii)
COLUMNS
Shri Ram Singh Yadav 299-303 Shri K. V. Shankarugowda 305-311 Shri Mool Chand Dag. 311-316 Sbri Kammodi Lal Jatav 316-317 Sbri Harish Rawat 317 -320 Sbri K. P. Unnikrishnan 320-326 Sbri Jagdish Awasthi 326-329 Shri N. Dennis 329-331 Sbri Naresh Chandra Chaturvedi 331-333 Shri Vishnu Modi 333-335 Shri Sanat Kumar MandaI 335-337 Sbri Ram Prakash 337-319
Dr. p. Vallal Peruman 339-342
Shri Priya Ranjan Das Munshi ~42
Statement re-Communal Riots in Ahmedabad 303 Shri S. B. Chavao
Discussion re Interference in India's Internal Arf.in by U .. S. Congress's Human Rights Caucus which held briefial in U S. C(Jngress Annexe on the so-called Human Riehts Issue in PUDjab
Shri SaifuddiD Chowdhury 34"'-348 Prof. K. K. Tewary 348-361
Shri E. Ayyapu Reddy 361-363
Shri K. P. Unnikrishnan 363-366 Sbri G. G. Swell 366-375 Shri Narayan Choubey 375-379
Shri Zainul Basher 379-385
Sbri V. S. Krishna Iyar 385-387 Sbri Piyus Tiraky 387-;388 Shri Kolandaiyelu 389-390 Shri Amar Roypradhan 390-392 Shri Khursheed Alam Kba D 392-400 LOK SABHA DEBATES
LOK SABHA tbe fortification of salt witb bOlb iron aod iodine bas been developed by the National Institute of Nutrition under ICMR. Salt (ortified according to the new formula bas Thursday, April 18, 1985/Chaitra 28. to be tested. 1907 (SaJ...a) An appropriate view would be laken after tbe details of tbe test! are avaiJable. The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: According to a report in tbe Patriot of 27th [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] Marcb, 1985, tbere is a difference of opinion between the Director-General of leMR and [English] tbe Additional Director of Healtb Services
on the efficacy of the ICMR formula "0 MR. SPEAKER: Professor. wbere bad you been '1 MR. SPEAKER : Is it not tbe beauty of PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I was a democratic set-up? absent due to you, Sir. You accepted the cesignation of Mr. Sharad Pawar. That is SHRIMATI GESTA MUKHERJEE: wby I had to go for election compaign. Really it is a beauty. Sir.
PROF. N.G. RANGA I He has lost his Since both goitre and anaemia are caus- voice. ing great. barm to public health and since the lCMR formula " {or the cute of both MR. SPEAKER: He has been using it the diseases by double fortification, "11m tbe beyond limits, all tbe time. Government take a third expert opinioD before arriving at an appropriate view 1
[TranslatIon] ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS SMT. MOHSINA KIOWAI : Mr. Spea- [ F:.nglish] ker, Sir. in tbe conditions prevailing in the country we find tbat anaemia is found in Fortification of Salt to Cure Goitre almost every ale group and is causiDg great and Anaemia barm to public health, people are getting weaker day by day. It bas been noticed *486. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER· from the available figures that 40 to 60 per JEE: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND cent pre-school children are sufferiDg from FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: anaemia aDd 25 to 30 per cent women in (a) wbether it il a fact tbat the pro- tbere reprgducted age group suffer from posal suggested by the ICMR to double for- ancamia. About 50 per cent of tbe people tification of salt to cure goitre and anaemia of this counfry are suffring from anaemia. is nearin, finaJisation ; and Iron is necessary for treatment of anaemia and similarly goitre can be cured witb iodine. (b) if 10. the detail. tbereof and Now we are gOiDI to formulate a scheme of Go~rnment'8 reaction tbereto '1 fortification of salt witb iron. We are taki~ iodised salt daily. It is tbe cheapest salt. THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI MOH- In other slatcs. iroD is mixc difference of op:;:}:on .at all b~~we~n !.C. M, Q., <'nd n:n:ctor General in this respect. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: This is not Jod ine. [English] SHRIMATI MOHSINA KIOWAI ; You SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: II are asking about tbe presence of bydrolen was reported in tbe Press. So tbey should peroxide in milk. have contradiclcd it. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: MR. SPEAKER : Now 'I bas been. Whether you win make an inquiry into the presence of hydrogen peroxide in AmuJ milk PROF. MADHU OANOAVATE; Tbis aod otber products. is the patriotic vt!rsioD. SHRIMATI MOHSINA KIDWAI: I SHRIMATl GEETA MUKHERJEE I was ICiiing thaI under 'be Prevention or Maybe. My ~econd supplementary. Food Adulteralion Act it is prohibitc:-d. So how can they mix it '] I would like to know wbetber tbe G..>vcrDment is I:lwarc that addition or hydro. MR. SPEAKER; So tbere is no ques- aca per·oxide to milk causes goitre and also tion. of tbe weishty complaints made on the floor of tbe House bere· Last lime during ques.. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: tion-hour a questi .. m was PUI wbetbel' hydro. Are tbey contemplating conducting aDy in- po peroltide i. used in tbe Arnul mill< and quiry 1 bOD MiDiller Mr. MakwaDa himself n;plied 10 that qUeltion. He said that lb. milk MR. SPEAKER; Thil i. not a runni". ...pplied by OMS docs nol contain hydr.... debale . len peroxide but he did nol Answer about Amul milk. So. in vicw or tbat". ! WaD! t~ SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: I know whether the ,;oVCrOlVCJll UJ.U" _,ll\.JU .... ' 1-."\0',, uv: :~~cn ~DY tim.: at aU. J just WlDt 5 Oral Answers CHAITRA 28.1907 (SAKAl Oral Answers 6
10 know whether tbey have conducted any this formulae and briDg it in tbe market inquiry. immediately ? May also know tbe lotal Dumber of goitre affected teenagers in the MR. SPEAKER: There is DO que"tion. country? According to the International Why should there be any mqu,ry when there Bulletin It is 30 perce-nt in India. Tho is nothing about it ? It is already prohibited. hOD. Minister may assure tbe House that No question. iodized salt will be avaJlab1e ID the market as early as possible or bow long wi1l it SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: take. How is it that there can be no queshon ? SHRIMATI MOHSINA KIDWAI : Sir. MR. SPEAKER: Ber:ause if cannot be in highly endemic areas around 40 million as it is prohibned ThcIC will be an Inquiry peflODS are affected with goitre There if there is B complaint. There is no co-npiaint. ale two thmgs. First to iodize tbe commOQ So there cannot be any question. It IS a salt and second fortification of salt witb hypothetical question. iron and iodine. We are iodizing salt for highly endemic areas and we propose 10 SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: * iodize all the common salt by 1990 for full consumption in our country We have amended the law also. MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. Steps to Achieve 'One Child Per Family' SHRIMATI DIL KUMARI BHAN- Objecti're DARI : GOitre is rampant in Sikkim also, What steps have tbe Government taken to help the State Government to combat this *487. SHRI C.P. THAKUR: Will the disease? Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be please to .tate: SHRIMATl MOHSINA KIl)\vAI: A. I have already said, there are certain areas (a) what steps Government propose to jn wbich tbis goitre IS prevalent. So we take to achieve 'one child per family" have identified the endemic areas and we objective in coming years to restrict popu1a- are supplYing lodised salt to these areas tion explosion ; and because tbat is the only remedy for this dJlease. (b) whether any iDcentive scheme is contemplated for tbe purpose? SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNSI: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE The Minister has just replied that JCMR DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHIRl 6tl11 conductmg tbc tests. I would like YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) and (b) to know hom tbe MiDlstet whether she The present pollcy of the Government is is aware the fact that Tata Chemicals or to promote a two child family norm How- have aleardy developed the technology of ever, Government arc considerilJg to ex. cod iodj~ed salt, The solution of the formulae to one child family the same compeDsalion is a universally prescribed formulae. As and incentives as are presently available per the Federal law of tbe United States for families which limit their ramity size granular potassium iodide is dissolved to two/more (han two childreo. in a partially satulated (10 prevent micro- biological growtb) asodium chloride solution. AN HON. MEMBER: I think members Add a small quantity of sodium bicarconate of Parliament arc exempttd. to increase PH and a ~mall quantity or dextrose to retBrd oxidation of the MR. SPEAKER : This does nol applllt potoss1Um iodide. This is the universal retrospectively. formulae accepled by all the scientists If 10, what prevents the government to a~cPt SHRI C.P. THAKUR: There ate cc.taiD sections of population in Indi. lite Panis .Nol recorded. ., Oral Answers APRIL 18, 1'85 Oral Answers 8 in Mabarashtra and Paharias in Bihar MR. SPEAKER: The boo. Member tbere. wh 'Jse population is not growing. Pars is He i~ speaking for the first time. arc a highly advanced community whereas the otner is a very backward community. SHRI S. MR GURADDI : Is it a fact Tben some portions of our population are that tbe Government is going to briDa a gtowing very fast. Has any study been comprehensive Bill to restrict one child made to riDd out tbe causes and apply per family. in order to restrict the popula- tbose causes to tbe g~neral population in tion explosion io this country? Have you India? aot any Bitl pending "N;th you? Or are you gowg to bJ ing a Dew Bill? Secoodly. accord;og to tbe statistics published by the Hcalth Deputment rhe per SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA : Ar caplta expenditure on (amity welfare is the present there is no thinking On the part lowest in Bihar aod slightly more in U.P., of the Government to bring such a Bill Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh a nd in before tbe House. these areas there 15 maximum growth of population. Is tbe government going to SHRI S M. GURADDI: It it Dot a identify such arear r and spend morc in tbose fact that it is necessary to bave such a arca. 1 comprehensive Bill to rel1.rict the size oC the (amily in tbe country ? SHIRl YOGENDRA MAKWANA: Some study was made about the tribal populatioo al to why are dimin·shing parti- MR. SHEAKER : Now, Dr. Venkatesb. CUlarly tbe Toda group of tribes. The study was made by tbe Ho me Minist[y DR. v. VENKATE<;H : My Question i. this. Today we are all aware tbat popula- bur that report IS not aVdilable with me at tion explosioD is of a .. ery enormous pres~nt and aho it does not arise from tbil dimension I u this Jirt:ction, to check qUl"stion. population explosion. so many religions are coming in tbe way very mucb. Wbat are So rar as the second part o( the question the measures whicb the Government have is concerned govcromeot has taken verious takeD up to see that tbere is un~formity of steps to educate the- people through mass family plaoniol in this country? media and some iocentives are also given 10 that they can come (orward for family SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA: In a plaoolol_ secular democracy it II not possible to prevail UPO!) any religion. but on1y to SHRI C.P. TH ... KUR: My Question educate tbem, about, the necessity of ramily is this: Our per capita expenditure IS lowest plaoniDI. in Bihar. So do you p:opose to spend more amount In such States to curb exces- (Interruptions) sive rise in population 'I MR. SPEAKER: Order, order. SHRI YOGENDRA M ... KWANA: Tbe Shrimati Sundarwati Nawal Prabbakar. campaign is mounting particularly in those areas. For exa.mple, you have Kerala, [Tra" ... Ja tio,,] where it is higbly acceptable. There, less amouot is bcio8 spent compared to some SHRIMATI SUNDARWATI NAVAL olber areas. rt il quite na1ural th:H in PRABHAKAR: Mr. Speaker, Sir, iQ Bibu, U. p. and other areas (where people v\Uages. women are general\y illitera.te and are (Jot coming forward for family plan~ tbey becmoe motbers at a vcry early a,e. Ding) more amount il being sp~nl in those I would like to know i( Government bavo .r...... any scheme of org.:lnisin~ training camps 80 thal they could get some traiolo, about PROF N. G. RANGA: He W,,"t. more. their health and rhat or rheir childero ?
SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA: All SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA that depends UPOD availability of resources. Uader (h'C: ~hilu and muther care scheme" , Oral Answers CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Oral AlU'wers 10 'Provision bas been made to provide training SHRI SURESH KURUP : Mr. Speaker, to the women who are weak and are Sir, the hon. Prime Minister in his first "Suffering (rom anaemia. They are per- broadcast to the nat ion on the 6th January -suaded to adopt family planning norms 1985 aDnounced a new education policy ,specially tbrougb education aDd olher and tm DOW no CODcrete step has heeD media. taken by the Government for the new education policy.. 10 this cODnection~ I [Enl{lish) would like to know from the bon. Minister what concrete proposals are under tbe con- SHRI R. P. DAS: Under the present sideration of the Government. 1 would socio-economic condition I do not think also like to know from him whether the tbat the ODe child formula would work. Government would take into consideration But still I havo some doubt about the two the unemployment problem in this country' child formula also' (Interruptioll). I wouJd as also tbe available job opportunity. He like to know from tbe Minister whether may also please tell us whether tbCII this two child formula has been able to Government will formulate its Dew educa- create any impact in the [ucal areas or Dot. tion policy on a scientific maDner linked n so, to what extent has it worked in the witb job potentiality. rural areas 7 SHRI K. C. PANT: It is true that the SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA: In Prime Mmister ID his first national the fural areas aad in the backward areas bro~dcll.st spoke of the need to frame a particularly the response to family planning new education policy Moreover, in reply can be created througb mass medIa cam- to the Bud~et Demands for Grants of the paigns and through education or tbe masses. Education Ministry, J had mentioned the That js being done by tbe Government. steps wbich we were taking to frame sucb a policy. First. we are engaged DOW in SHRI R. P. DAS; That is not Ine a revIew of the education policy and we aDswe.r~ Sir. have a study paper which Will be discuslt'd and we WIll dlagno~e the ailment., etc of Proposal For Uniform Currjculam by the preseot educauoD system. We bave NCERT another pap.::r also ror dilcussion aDd f'mafly after a lot of discussion and national 8488. SHRI SURESH KURUPt : debate. we intend to frame the recommenda- PROF. M .... DHU D .. ND>l.VATE tions. I had mentioned all this I need Will the Minisler of EDUCATION be not repeat that. Now, for the othel' pleased to states : question, I would like to make it clear that education does not create employment.. (a) whether there is any proposal by Employment would be the r('suh of the National Council of Educational Research rate of economiC growlh But I agree with and Training for a u[)lform nationaL CUrci" my hem. frined that as far as possible there ·cul.m; should be a matcbing between the typ: of edUCAtion, the k.ind of persons produced by the sYlitcm and requirements of the (b) iC so, the details thereoC; and productive employment as a Whole, nol only the job but the self·employment and (C) the mea.ures proposed to be taken also the kind or people required by edu- by Government to introduce the uniform cationals institutions. by researcb and 10 curricu\arn 7 OQ. Taking the total1.ty into account, ODe should try to match the two sub system! THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION or the total system namely tbe productive (SHRI K. C. PANT: (a) to (c) Tbe Ne ... employment sector and tbe education sector. Education Policy is presently under farmu .. lalion. Afte. it i. finalised. the Government SHRI SURESH KURUI': I would like wHl decide, jnler.aJia, OD various que-sdon. to know from the hOD. Mioister _bethe,. partainiol to curriculum etc. the Government will announce the D"" Orll/ Answers APRIL 18, 1~85 Oral Answers 12 cducacion policy within a certain time-- It is Dot a fact tbat 30 years back limit so tbat the people of tbe country will in 1956, tbe Public Service Committee alsO" be able to know tbe new system. He may made a similar recommendation 'I Is it also tell us whelher the Government intends also not a fact that tbe National Committee to constitute an Expen Committee for tbe that was appointed for the ten plus two plus formulation of new education policy and three system, again made a similar recommen- whether the Government intends to consult dation? On that basis, is it not a fact that bot h tbe representatives of ~ tudents and the Cbairman of the PubJic Service Commis. the Teacbers before formulating the new SiOD, Mr. Kidwai (if I remember aright) education policy. had written to Mrs. Indira Gandhi. tbe then Prime Minister ~ making again the SHRI K. C, PANT: Tbe aim of same recommendation? And is it also Govt"[oment is 10 implement tbe new policy not a fact -that in 1979 the Janata Govern- in the next academic year and accordmgly ment accepted tbil recommendation and we have set a time limit for the formulation made it tbe policy base for its educaHonal of the policy. So far as the cODsullatioD is policy draft? Finally~ i5 it not a fact that concerned, we will certainly consult the under the chairmanship of Sbri tcachers and the students also. Parthasarathy you have appointed an .Expert Committee. which has also made [Trans/alions} the same recommendation?
SHRIMATI USHA THAKKAR: Mr. Having identical recommeodatioDs from Speaker, Sir~ would like to know how a1l Commissions and even from your own many Central Schools arc there in Gujarat predecessors~ why do you Deed so much and whether the hOD. Minister wouJd time to formulate the poli(fY and anD ounce consider tbe proposal of opining a Centra) ir after some tjme ? Scbool at Kandla in Kutcb, keeping in virw the importance of KaodJa as a major SHRI K. C. PANT: If it were not port. Prof. Madbu Dandavate. ] would have said tbe question does not arise. MR SPEAKER: Usbaji, you please sit down Let Prof Madhu Dandwate ask PROF. P. J. KURIEN: You cannot the question first, as his name is listed in b. partial like tbat. We are all equals. tbe question. SHRI K C. PANT: I am partial to (Elfg/i,h) Prof. Dandavate.
PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Sir, MR SPEAKER: Tbere are fltot amon8; we cannot be on four legs at tbe same the equals too. time. SHRI K, C. PANT: Tbe EducdtioD SHRI K. C. PANT He bas lost bi. Commilsiom in 1964-66, called 'Kothari chivalry. Commission' did make certain recammen .. dations in tbis respect, and the Govern- PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I am ment adopted the Education Policy and waiting for her. Anyway~ Sir~ the boo. I\.nnounced it in 1968. It is nOl as if Miniuer bas said that after 37 years of there is no Education P01ICY· It is only freedom, .be education policy is stiIJ under being reviewed. think the Professor formulatioD. J am glad tbat it is UDder would concede that there is need for formulatioD. Hut against tbe background, revieWing the education po)tcy. keeping J would like to ask him wbether it is Dot in mjnd tbe developmenr, that have taken a fact that the new Prime M iojster has place in the intervening period. 1968 was already announced tbat be wants the edu- a long time back, Now, 00 tbe baSIC cation linked up witb productJvity and js question of delinkiog of jobs from deBreel it not a fact that this i'!ii consistanl wltb he has referred to Dr. Kidwai·s Dote a.QC the Kothari Commission', recommendations to tbo' Committee of Mr. Partbasarat' that tbe Degree and Employment should aDd al80 to tbe Janata Party's acceptant be delinke
PROF. MADHU DANDAVATB : The Ibis 1'1 a very welcome development; and not present Prime Minister also expres5ed the o""r 1 wdcorne it but I expect tlJem to work: same view. this out in collaboration with the Statc.; and one of the specific poinls they have made is ShRI K. C. PANT: The Prime that all the boardlil must look upon this as a Minister is also of the same view and I collaborative effort. that they must aU help am also of tbe same view. We are gomg in the evolution of the desirable currieulam to work on that. It i, not something l§.O tbat they are seekmg cO:Jperatlon of all which can be done overnight. There is, Ihe State. aCid ali. the States are a party to first of all, a certalD amount of confusion this deCision. ] chink this is somethinl to in this matter It is Dot as if degrees be taken note of. will be done away. Degrees will continue. Tb~ 0011' Question is where degrees are not [Tram/alion 1 oeeded, ooe sbould not compel people to go in for higher degrees for degrees~ Rail lioe from Behariganj to Simri sake. This broad approch is getting Bakhtiar accepted more and more. Bul we will bave to iovalve tbe UPSC. the State '489. SHRJ MAHABIR PRASAD Government and the otber employeu in YADAV: Will the Minister or RAILWAYS public and private sector, All of tbem be pleased to state: will have to agree with this concept aad then alone can we really start pushing (a) whether a survey was carried out things. I do not mind telliog Prof. in 11}74 75 to lay a raiJ line from BeharigaoJ Daadavate that even within the Government to Simri Bakhtiar (district Madbepura.. also, one will have to persuade thoJe Bibar); sections of tbe Government which deal wilb personnel matters and admInistrative (h) if <;'0 th'" r'll'tailc: thcrcar includioa reforms and so 00. So, it wHl take a the results of the survey; and little time. I am not trying to put off answering the questIon. I think I have (c) if not. the action Government pro. to be realistic in tbls matter. pose to take in this regard?
MR. SPEAKER : Let us see what THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Mamataj; has to say. in this regard. Is it (SHRI BANSr LAL) : (al Yes, Sit. in regard to West Bengal? (b) As per the Survey Report tbe new KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: Metre Gaugc line would cost Over Rs. 5.5 Will the hOD. Minister of Education be crores at 1974·75 price level, yielding a pleased to statc~how could there be a uniform educational curriculam under tbe relurn of less than 1%. present state of affairs. wben a State like West Bengal teaches Marxism even at the (c) In view of tbe severe constraint of school level, neglecting the study or our resources and bt'avy comrnitmeo(s already io national movement ? band. this proposal will have to await con.. sfderation till tbe resources position im.. SHRI K.C. PANT: J would like to iD- proves. form my boo. friend about one recent wei .. come development The CODtea. Organisa- SHRI MAHABIR PRASAD YADAV : tion of the Board or SecoDdary EducatioD Wben I was draftiD' this que5ition, a ecode- 'ad a meeting in February tbis year. which man sitting by my side was sayiq tbaC recommended that aU tbe boards should b.vc BaDsi Lalji .•• :I. common and uniform curriculam in the MR. SPBAKER : Has he Jeft lhe House wbote country in all sehool•• apprchcndina your Question? And their recommendationa tbeyaro follow- iog up witb the piau 0' action as well as SHRI MAHABIR PRASAD YADAV: with a time targot. Tbil is a unanimous He was or tbe view tbat BolDSi Lalji caui.. lccisioD or that central 0CJaoiaaUon. Now, Jer.:d Bihar as uo.luuchable. I would lik. lS Ora' AnsH-'t'rs APRIl:. 18, 1985 0,..1 Answers 16
to tell him that entire Bibar State is B back- SHRI BANSI LAL: All tbese thing~ ward area, but the area which I am referring were taken into consideration while formu .. il specifically a backward area, I also agree lating Ibe 7tb Plan· that there is constraint of resources wiln the railway, but would tbe Minister even then PROF. K.K. TEWARY : J feel haffled make lome provision for it keeping iu view at .he reply liven by the Minister t especially tbe condition of tbat area which is specifi- regarding Bihar. Our declared policy is ca1ly backward 7 If it is not posibJc at pre- to remove regional imbalaDces and Bibar KIlt, it could be done after some time. is'a classic example of regional imbalances. Could be 8ive any assurance in this regard or make any such commitment. MR. SPEAKER: Is it populalion wise also? SHRI BANS! LAL: Sir, 721 kms of new railway lines have been laid in Bibar PROF. K.K. TEWARY: Although all since independecce. Out of tbat, 315 kms. tbe central .gendes have been exploiting the bave been laid in North Bihar. In addition, mineral resourCes of Bibar for Ihe develop- 182 km.. of railway line from Barauoi to ment of the country. and we are bappy for Katibar bave been converted from metre that, taking into account the situation in' gauge to broad gauge. Therefore, a lot cf Bihar. its utter backwardness anGi furtber work has been dene by the Railway Depart· downhill rush of the State economy. I feel ment. It is not time that less worle bas been the Minislcr should have a fresh Jook at done in Bihar. But I cannot make any the whole situation and in view of that, can commitment to him. I e:tpect from the hon. Mioister tbat new railway lines whicb have been surveyed wi1l SHRI M"HABIR PRASAD YADAV: be accepted, and additional funds will be I would like to ask the Railway Mimster allocated to Bihar in tbe Seventh Plan? wbetber if it is Dot possible to start this work at prcs.enl. it is possible to undertake this in SHR! BANS! LAL : Whatever lines ar~ future or not ? surveyed, whenever the- funds are allocated by tbe Planning Commission wjIJ take up SHRI BANS! LAL : I am 1101 in a po- tbose lines. sition to say anytbing about tbe future. PROF. K K. TF:WARY : Sir, please re- [English_' quest the Railway Minis(cr to be a liUle more explicit in bis replies. He is so brier PROF. P.J· KURIEN: It il laid here and pre-cise. lhal Bihar is backward witb regard 10 railway. MR. SPEAKER: Brevi:y is Ibe soul of wit, Su. AN. HON. MEMBER: Keral. i. also Shri Saty.gopal Misra. backward. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: Sir. Ihe PROF. P.J .. KURIEN . Kerala is also. WOld sbould be 'Renovation' but not -Re- Since the 7th Plan is on tbe formulation servation· a. it is printed in the lilt. Itage witb regard to railwa)' policy for tbe 7th Plan, will he have a fresh look at it and MR. SPEAKER: Corrilendum hal beeD s~e which are the backward States with issued to you, J am told· rccard to railway., because wben a new rail- way line is conlidered, I am afraid, this SHR! SATYAGOPAL MISRA: Qn. 491. point .s Dot being looked iOlo; because rail- way backwardnescs leads to backwardness (English] in inousery and other backwardness. There~ fore, WIll be look. into this aspect and lee HeDo ••tioa or Mecbed. Rali_y SI.li08 which are the States which are backward with regard to railway and Rive more assis .. '.91. SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: tance and allotment to them ""ben tbe 71h Will tbe MiDi.ter of RAILWAYS be plta.. d Plan i. formulated? to Itate: 17 0,,,1 AnJ,Me" CHAITRA 28. 1907 (SAKA) 0,,,' Arsw~,. .. 18
(a) whether hIs Ministry has taken up was Rs. 2.13 crores, which was later cn any scheme fcr the renovalion of tbe revtsed to Rs.6 5 crores due to increase in Mecheda Railway Stl.tio:1 on South Ea"\tern the scope of work and price escalation,. Railway; Some of tbe works luch as che earthwork for bldin~ and yard extending the approa- (b, if so, the details thereof; ches and suppJy of track materials fOI the sidmg bad to be done by the power (C) the reasons for delay in completinc slat ion authontles and the work worlh Rs. the renovation programme; and 3.15 crores 1S to be done by the Railways. (dl when the renovation work is to be completed? SHRI SATYAGOPAL MI~RA: I am astonished at the reply given by tbe Railway Mmister when he says tbat due to labour THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS problem tbe wOlk bas been delayed. (SHRI BANS I LAL) : (a) Yes, Sir. Actually, there is no labour problem; there is no question of labour problem. On the (b) The work at present in progress at extension of the overbridge only six or Mechcda provided for construction of new seven people arc working Almost every station building with sufficient booking day I used to go. there and sec that only ren counters, waithing hall. waiting room and to fifteen people are workicg in the station extension of foot· over-bridge. building and he is saying that there was. labour trouble there. (c) Construction of station building has been d:layed due to labour problerP I want to know what sort of labour trouble is th.:re. Has the Railway lodaed (d) Wh:le the extension of foot-over- any complamt in the Assistant Labour bridge is expected to be commissioned by Commissioner's office in this regard? I say the end of thiS- month, the construcllon of that there JS DO labour trouble at ali. new stall on building is lIkely to be comple· ted in about 3 months. SHRI BANSI LAL: The labour pro- blem is that the leaders of the local union of the thermal power statloD, wblcb SHRI SATYAGOPAL MIS!> A: With beJongs to the hon Member's parry, say the completion of Matangini bridge over the river Haldi and with the coming up of the lbat only that labour should be employed by the contractor whicb is recornmenc!ed Koilagbat thermal pow~r station the by tbat particular uDlon. The contractor,. Mecbeda Railway Sialioo h:ls become an impOI tant Railway Station But the pas- first of all dJd not agree to that. Now he 6C'ngen in the said station are in !erious trou- halt clg[cC!'d to that. In SpllC or cunlrclClOJ'5 agreemg to tbat only two labourers were ble due to tbe renovation WOI ks which have started long ago In this context I want to made available. S~, the ollly obsracAe is know flom the bon. Minister whethe-r his party. tbere is any paucity of funds and whether SHRI SATYAGOPAL MISRA: The they have received any amount tbe from statement is inconect· Koilaghat Thermal Power Station authorities for the renovation of the s.tation buiJding, SHRI BANSI LAL: Tbe slalement is when did the construction work start, wbat Dot incorr~ct at alL is tbe time likely to be takeD and wiat is tbe target ror completion of the work. Import of Eiectric i.o('omotives
SHRI BANSI LAL : As I bave already *492. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO said. the work will be completed in about Will Ihe Mini'ter of R"ILWAYS be pleased tbree months. The work was started at to state: the request of the Ko,laghat Thermal Power Station of the West Bengal State Electricity (a) wbether Governmtnt propose to lBoard to renovate the Mecbeda Railway 8ugmrot the production of electric locomo- (ltatioD. The orilinal cost of the work tives in the country; 19 APRIL 18. 1985 211
(b) whether Government propose to SHRI EDUARDO FAlEIRO : In tbe import electric locomotives in order !o rr::e:et \.vhc!e :.,;::..: .. :;cn it i; y~ry unfouunate thal the requirement; and we have now 1000 kms from tbe previous Pla[) as a backlog in electrification. Is it (c) the number of electric locomotives a fact Ibat under the Seventh Five Year proposed to be produced indigenously and Plan the target of electrification has been th~ numher of electric locomotive,:; pII.)~osed ~;;~!::d d~ .....':: f~G:T: soeD l~m~ to :5CO kms'! It IS to be imported ? reported tbat in a major pohcy deciSion receDtly the Railways hay!!' cecidcd not to go THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in for massIve efC'ctflfi, at on ot the track MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI during Ihe Sn'eoth Plan. Instecd alJ out MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) and (Il) cffv;;; v.o .... :d he wade 10 rehabilitate ",oek Yell. Sir, out If ad: ard rollJllg 'Stock What are the reasons for this change in the policy which (c) It is proposed to manufacture 58 is detrImenTal to safe and cheaper Electric Locomotives indigenously during travel? 1995&86~ and import about 20 proto-type High Horse Power electric locos of dIffe- SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: Tbe rent designs. reason for the change in policy, I would like to inform the bon. Member, is the SHRI EDUARDO FAlEIRO: It is five·1rtter word which spells out -mone,.'. to my mind a fact that electrification of That IS the entire reason for the change in rai!wa)'s js: the ~3.in ~ns ...~ .. :::r be::::~~=!t .... v., .... ,.. r A~H 0: wd.l .. 1•• fD tLat ii i.5 a must provides cheaper travel because the main.. unforltmate Sit uation and I would seek his tenance costs are less, sater tcave1 because help and support in geUing more mODey or less accidents and pollution fee. and from rhe Plannmg CommiSSIon. I am sure, f;t<',t tr",v ... 1 n ...... :: thfO Minister agre~ with I WIll receIve hiS support ID good measure. tbis statemcot of mioe? Is it a fao.t tbat under tbe Sixth Five Year Plan the target The target for elect.rification in tbe of electrification was 2800 kms and upto Seventh Plan is 3, ~80 route kilometres. March this year only 1824 kms could be electrified. Why is this difference beL ween tbe target and the performance'? Is it true MR. SPEAKER : You want some tbat electrification is really the: answer to lobbying for this '1 our problem for safer and cheaper travel 1 SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: Well~ through you, Sir, I am making this SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA : It earnest request to the hon. Member. is nue in reipect of certain high density routes oaly that electnfi.:ation is econo:meal SHRI B"'SUDEB ACHARIA : Sir, the more viabJe and cheaper. But this ., culd Governmea-t helve adopted a polICY to phase differ from route to route. out all the steam locomotives and not a single steam locomotive has come out As far as electrification target js COD ern· from the Chittaranjan Locomotive works ed, the target was appro;dmately 2i52 route since L972. Hence. the numbee of electric kms. We completed 1522 route k.rns only locomotives should be IQcreased. While: primarily because there was a very large 81 eto.:ctri~ locomotives wete produced in price escalation in the em,t of' inputs, Cbiuaranjan LOCOmO[lVe Works during Ihe Therefore. the yardstick to be taken into year 1984 85. the target for the year 1985·86 consideration while determioing OUf per- has been fixed only at 58 locos. though _he formance is whether total allotment was CLW bas the (;apaeity to produce more spent or Dot. Upto 31st Marcn, 1985 the locos. So, ihe capacity of the Chittaranjan total a\lotment of R'S. 422 crores in the Loco;notlvc Work.s is not being fully VI tbe plan has. been enlir~ly spent. But utilised. Without utilising the full capacity because of the price esc':llation we could of CLW. G:)VO[QrncDt is going to import only electrify 1522 route kros. twenty prototype electric loco:notives. 21 Oral A/J,we" CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Oral A""wer& 21 though CLW con produce the same type of SHRJ MADHAVRAO SCINDIA : This locomotives, The former General Manager question does Dot really relate to electrifi- of Cbittaranjan Locomotive Works had cation which is about import of locomotives. written a letter to the Government that Therefore, I will need a separate nolice in particular unit could produce that part i- this matter. J did reply on electrification cu1ar tYDe of locomolive .•. (lnlll!'rruptlOn) while replying to the original question OD eJectrification. But for this I Will need a MR. SPEAKER : Ask the question. separate notice.
SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: I would [Translation] like to know from tbe Minister why is it that instead of utilising the capacity of the SHRI JAGDISH AWASTHI: Mr. CL \V, Government is going to import 20 Speaker, Sir t tbe hOD. Minister bas laid that prototype electric locomotives. Tbe it is proposed to import certaiD electric lo_ Minister should clarify this. comotives. I would like to know the names of the countries from which these electric: MR. SPEAKER: You sbould have locomotives are proposed to be imported as simply asked about the capacity utlHsation. also their cost in Indian currency.
SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA: Sir, MR. SPEAKER: Tbe Price would be tbe capacity of Cbittaranjan Locomotive known only when the deal is finalised. Works is 60 locomotives. There is a proposal wh;ch we have received from [English] CL W to augment Its capacity from 60 to 80 Common SyI1abus (or Certain Foundation at a cost of about Rs. ~ 0 86 crores. This proposal is under consideration The Courses target let in the Seventh Plan-in the termi· nal year of the Seventh Plan is that the *493, SHRI BANWARI LAL Railways should carry 350 million tonnes PUROHIT: Will the Minister of EDUCA- of freight, and to meet this, we will need TION be pleased to slale : an estimated capacity of about 570 locomo- tives for the post five year period. So, (a) whether the Vice·Chancellors of possibly, there will be need to import Universities in Asia and Pacific Region have some locomotives_ But this is a matter agreed to work on the proposal [0 have a 'Which is under consideratioD No decision common syllabus for ~ertain "foundatioD bas yet been taken 1n this regard. An. courses" to facilitate better cooperation; otber reason for the import of prototype is that in CLW we produce Llcomolives of (b) if so, the details of tbe foundation 3.60e H.P. The proposal is to import courses; 6.COO H.P. electric locomotives so as to save on line capacity. (c) wbether the said proposal will pr~ vide better Ie-arDin, amongst students 1Dd SHRI LALITESHWAR SHAHI: Sir. encourage students mobility between COUD- tbe Minister in his reply has said tbat due to nies; and price escalation, the electification of a pro- posa] route length of 2,700 kilometres has (d) by when the proposal is likely to be been brought down to 1,500 kilometres. J implemented '1 would like to know what is the period in which escalation bas taken place? When THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION was this estimate prepared and does lhi!il (SHRI K.C. PANT): (a) The Conference escalation bave any relationship to the Gene- of Vice·Cbancellors of Universities of the ral Price Index? or whetber the prices of Asian and Pacific Region- was convened to commodities rrquired by Railways have in. discuss common educational prDblems and freased at a higber speed tban tbe General to share experience of ...h other. During "ice Index 1 the deliberations, views were expreseed about 23 Oral Allswer, APRIL II. 19S5 Oral Answers 24
the need for foundation courses for under .. [TraniatiorrJ graduates to impr(}ve g~':1e!'a! :}W:lr... nees, However, the Conference did not ado;,t any specific recommenjatjon on the subj:ct. Wilen the recommc:ndations of Group-I came up b::fore the premllinary meeting, there were not adop[cd by it Therefore, (b) to (d) Do not arise. it cannot be said that the conference has [Trmll/alion} made any recommendatIOns, but we have Doted all thou the" have saId SHRJ B"NWARI LAL PUROHIT: Mr. Speaker, Sir Tnirteen Countnes had SHRI BANWARJ LAL PUROHIT: Particip:lted ill thiOi COllfprpnce and the h In. Mr. Sneaker, Sir, J would like to ask the Minister had inaugurated the Conference. han. Minister if there is any proposal under Defini rely a lot of discussion would ha ve the cO:1sideration of Government to-change taken place in the Conference and some Ihe Education pohcy? The present education decisions would also have been taken there, policy bas been inharited by UI reom It is also possible th~t "pecific .ctecj·dom; British time and it needs to be changed. I might not have been taken and a general WOUld. Therefore. like to know how long discussion might have been held. What would it take to m Ike a declaration about have they told you about the eUucatlOo the Educ:!tion Policy? Would such a declara- policy? Secondly, after the telecast of the tion be made witbin six months or one- year Prime Minister's speech, the people of the or two years? Discussion one of course, being Country had expected some ch:toge in our held in tbis regard but are you in a position eo.ul.;.:.l.liOil puiil..Y. The; e;':::uca;:;.:.u jJ":":;cy :.:; : ... kc <:. SLi.i: .j .::c;i>ion in the matter? con~aining from BritIsh time would now be changed. Wb.en Vice Chancellors of MR. SPEAKER: The hon. Mini,ter has thine~n Countries are P3.!"tic!patir:!g in !'! r~p!i~::L The reply was given last time also. cO:J.ference, it is unHkely that they would What further reply do you want? nOI have made any suggestions at aU, I would .•herefore. like to ask the hon. SHRI BANWARJ LAL PUROHIT Mio'ster what the-ir main suggestions arc and Mr. Speaker~ Sir, This qu~stion is very what action has been taken by government important. therein?
SHRI K.C. PANT: Me. Speaker. Sir, MR. SPEA KER : It has already been Eighl foreign countries took. part in this ans'\\ered. What else do you want 1 Conference. The name, of the countries are Bangladesh. China, South Korea. Mlngolia. SHRI K C. PANT: I bave replied to Pakistan, tbe Phillippines, Sri Lanka and this question. Perhaps the bon. Member was Tbailand. Their objective was Dot to make not present 10 the House at {hat time. any recommendation to OUf G·;)Vermll~nt. Their aim Wd,S to increa~e natural CJ-op<:;la~ MR. SPEAKER : He would read it tion in tbc field of education, but the hon. later on. Member wants to know If any dlscus~ion about Foundation Courses took place or SHRI K.C. PANT : If he does not not. They bld discllssed this matter aod want to take even (his much trouble, I three groups were formed for thl$ purpose. would like to inform him tb"'lt {he- intend Group-I had made the following recornmen* to introduce the new policy by the nex.t dation. academic year,
[E.gli,h] {Engli,hj Surprise Check of Electricity ·'It was necessary to have foundation Coonecli()Ds in De'bi courses fOI under-graduates by way of general awareness. Tbese courses 5obould '494. SHRJ RAM BAHADUIl be compulsory and sbould comprise courses SINGH: Will tbe MiDister of IRRIGAllON ia bumanltjcJ, science and social 5ociencc:s." AND POWER b. pleased to ttat.: 25 Oral A,uwtor" CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKAl Oral A ' .... ers 21>
(a) whether it is a fact that the Delhi Electric Supply Undertaking had carried out a surprise check of electricit, connce· SHRI RAM B .. H.\DUR SINGH: You have said in your reply that reports tiODS in the month of Marcb, 1985 ; have been lodged with the police. After all the reports would have been lodged (h) if so, the details of the areas against some persons. What is the difficulty E:~:::tric check;:d by ttc Delhi S'..!p'rly in disclosing the names of such persons and Undertaking ; tbe officers or DESU involved in such ca3.es?
(c) the nature of irregu1arities found; [English] SHRI n. SHANKARANAND: Sir, (d) how many cases of theft of electri- there is no intention on my part to bide city were detected; and the names of these people. At the moment I do not bave the names. but if tbe han. (e) the action taken against the Member wants the names, I WIll give him • .offenders? Conversion of Sbolapur-Bijapur and Hospet. THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION Sholapur Rail Lines ioto Broad Gauge AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA- NAND): a to (e) Surprise checks were • 496. SHRI S. M. GURADDI : Will conducled by DESU in March, 1985, in the Minister of RAIL WAYS be pleased to North, East and West Delbi and 35 cases stale; of theft and 189 cases of utilisation of ex.cess load and misuse of electric connec.. (a) whether there is any proposal to tions were detectrd. In case of tbeft. supply convert tbe Sholapur-BJjapur and Hospet~ has been disconnected and reports have Sbolap!.lr rail lines into broad gauge; lodged witb the police Bills for loss of energy on account of theft are also being raised after du.:: as.sessmont. In regard to (b) if so~ when these projects arc likely utilisafion of excess ]oad and misuse of to be taken up ; electricity. instructions have been issued by DESU to levy 25% surcharge and to raise (c) whether the rail line between Gunt.- bills at the maxi mum rate. kal to Haspet presently restricted for the ule of goods trains is likely to be opened for [TranslatiOn] passenger trains; and
SHRI RAM BAHADUR SINGH: Sir, the (d) if not, the reaSOD£ therefQr ? incidents. of tbeft of electricity and cases of uiHisation of excess load are taking place THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE off and on. This fact cannot be denied MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI that employeeg of DESU are also involved MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) and (b) in this work and thiS has been mentioned There is no proposal to take up conversion in this House earlier also. I would, there- of these lines. at present. fore, like to know the names of (he persons (e) and (d) The line from Guntakal 10 who have been found involved in 3S cases of Benary ha.s been opened to p!l:sst:nger traffic.. theft and 189 cases of utilisation of exccss load. as Phase-I. 00 3012.1984. For opening Bcflary to Hospct sectioD. tbe work ",UI be taken in Pbage~lI, subject to svailability of [Eng/i,h) resourceS.
SERf B. SHANKARANAND: Sir, I MR. SPEAKER That is the central can put in a very short answer that the theme. persons who wanted to make u,e of this power are the persons who have srolen, (Inlerruptions) 27 Wrillf!n An.swers APRIL 18, 1985 Written An,wers 2&
SARI S. M. GURADDI: Sir. our hon. (b) Does Dot arise. Railway Minister always comes and says that there is financial stringency. May I (c) No, Sir. know whether (he Railway Minister or tbe (d) Does Dot arise. Railway Department had not taken up any conversion of metre guage liacs inlo broad gua,e for tbe last tbree or four years? Scbolarships 10 SC/ST Students
SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDJA : Sir, *495. SHRI SATYANARAYAN tbe conversion cost of melre guage into PAWAR: Will tbe Mini,ter of EDUCA- braod guage comes to about Rs. 30 lakhs TION be pleased to statJ : per kilometre whereas the laying of a new broad guage lines comes to approximately (a) whether there is any propos_) under Rs. 40 lakhs. This, of course, deperlds the consideration of Government to grant entirely on the terrain, but I am giving it on scholarships to every student belonging to an average. Therefore, sometimes it is Scbeduled Castes and Scbeduled Tribes to considered more worthwhile to lay a broad raise tbe standard of Iheir education in tbe guage line instead of conversion This, of country ; and course, again differs from case to case There have been conversions which the (b) if not, reasons ther 2. Some of tbe State Governmests are Summer Specials Between Bombay also giving scbolarshipsjfreesbips to students and Saurashtra belonging to SC/ST communities for pre· matriculation studies. *490 SHRI DIGVIJAY SINGH: Will Ibe MiDi·.ter of RAILWAYS be pleased to 3. As regards posts maleic studies, state: scholarsbips are given to eligible student$ belonging to Scheduled Caste/Scbeduled (a) wbetber Railways have decided to tribe communities. These scholarships are stop running of Summer Specials bctw«n given by the Ministry of Home Affairs under Bombay aDd Saurashtra; a CeotraJJY·lponsored scheme. The scheme is an open ended one. This: scbeme covers (b) if so, the reaSODS Iherefor ; all SC/ST students who are eligible for this (c) whether aDY representations have award, subject to certain conditions and been received against lucb a decision; and restrictions governing tbe award of these scholarsbips. (d) if so, the reaction of the Railway thereto? 4. Scholarsbips are given to studenl" at dirferent rates depending upon tbe courses THE MINISTER; OF RAILWAYS of study. Tbe rollowing rates are iD (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) No, Sir. operation at present : Written Answers 29 Written Allswers CHAITRA 28, 190 7 (SAKA) 30 (Rs. per month) Course. Residential Scbol.us Day Scbolars ------Boys Girls Boys Girls 1. Degree & Post-gradua Ie 1st 185 195 100 110 studies in Medicinel year Engineering/Agriculture lInd 200 115 year onward 2. Degree & Diploma in 1st 125 135 100 110 Indian Medicine. Nursing, year Pharmacy. Business Administration & Post- lInd 130 145 105 120 graduate studies in science year subjects 3. Certificate courses in 1st 125 135 100 110 Engg./ Medicine/ Agriculture Year etc. 2ne;! Year 130 145 lOS 115 onwards 4. General Courses upto graduate level 115 110 70 85 5. Classes XI-XII/Inter- ht 75 85 50 60 mediate courses Year 2nd 80 95 55 70 Year onwards The following conditions govern the 5. While the scholarship5 are disburst'd award of scbolarships : by the State Governments. the Ministry of Home Affairs bears the entire expenditure (a) Scholarships are awarded to those on the award of these scholarships o\'cr and SC/ST students the income of whose ahove the committed e'i:p::nditure which parents/a:uardians from all sources becomes part of the State liability at the end dDe. nDt exceed Rs. 1000/- per of the plan period. month; 6. During 1984-85 the total number or (b) those SC/ST students who are I'Dt awardees under this scheme waS 8 91 lakhs in full time emploament are eligible; (provisional) Thi~ figure does not include, {c) the award or scholarship in respect however, the number of awards in respect of male students is restricted to of Jammu & Kashmir and Goa, Daman &: only two male children of the .ame Diu, since information about tbem is Dot parent/guardian. available. 31 Written Answers APRIL 18. 1985 Written Answers 32 Harmful Cbemica!s in Cosmetics part of a larger composite project, the cost of which was Rs. 42.86 crares. *497. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: Will Ihe Minisler of HEALTH AND (b) The conltruction wOlk was started FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: in the year 1981-82 itself. (a) whether a large number of cosmetics (c) The anticipat;::d expenditure upto manufacturers are making and marketing March, 1985 is Rs. 15.$6 crorcs on rhJs cosmetics wUhout proper clearance of drug composite project. controllers; (d) The completion of this project win (b) whcthoer these cosmetics contain depend on the funds Illade available in the harmful chemicals ; and coming years. (c) if 50~ the safety steps taken to Dam at Tipaimukh iD M.anipur protect the consumers? *499. PROF. ·KAMSON MEIJINLUNG: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND POWER be pleased to state: FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI MOH- SINA KIDWAI): (a) According to infor· (a) whether the survey of tbe proposed mation received from State Drug Control dam at Tipaimukb in Manipur bas been Authorities, cosmetic manufacturers acc completed; maDufacturing cosmetics under manufacturing licences issued under tbe Drugs & Cosmerics Rules. (b) the details of the survey. witb its esttmated cost aDd power potentiality; (b) and (cl Do not arise. (c) the department to which Ihe project is to be entrusted (Irrigation Power. Or any Karor Dindigul Rail Line other depar[ment) ; and *498. SHRI L. ADAIKALARAJ : Will (d) Government of lndia's contribution tbe MlDister of RAIL WAYS be I-'Ieased to to the project? state: THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION (a) ..hen tbe proposal for Karur·Dindigul AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA- broad gauge rail.line was approved and NAND) : (al Yes. SIr. sanctioned and what was the total estimated cost at tbe time of sanction ; (h) The project envisages construction of a 161 Meter higb dam across river Barak, for providing benefits of irrigation, flood (b) when did the construction work control. inland navigation and fisbery start; development, besides power generatioD. The estimated cost of tbe project is Rs. 107S (c) the amount spent on construction crares and tbe power potential is 1500 MW. till March, 1985 ; and (c) & {d) DecisioDs on these issues have- (d) when CODstruclioll of tbe rail line is not been taken so far expected to be completed ? Provision of Women"s Colleges and HOfiltels. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE In Far_Flung RDd Hili Area. MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) (a) The *500. SHRI JITENDRA PRASADA: construction of the proposed Karur.Dindigul Will the Minister of EDUCATION be new l:ne line was approved In 1981·~2. as a pleased to state: 33 Written Answers CHAITRA "8, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 34 (a) whether Government are aware that (d) whether it is arso a fact that since in far-flung hill areas of the country where Independence no railway development work transport facility is not ava.ilflble, girls has been done in this region and whether have to leave their studies even at Jl'lImary in v.:iw of this, Government propose to and Middle level itself aj they have to start the work on Sikri-Hasa~lpur rad 1ine walk a di~tance of 15-20 kilometres from soon? their vil1ages to places having Middle and High Schools; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAS (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) jf so. whether Government propose (b) An amount of Rs. 1.95 lakhs was t-o open at Il.!as.t one women's colleg<~ with spent on the survey conducled ror this nCw a b.o~td in each Development Bk-ck so railway lines. that girls are DOt forced to discontinue their studies and national policy on women's (c) The Jand bas not yet been acquired education is actuaiJy implemented; and for th is project. by the State Government and therefore tbe question of compensation (C) if so, the details thereof? does nol arise. THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (d) A number of Dew lines have beeD (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) The re.pon· constructed in North Bibar since sibillty for setting up sebools i~ prnnariiy Independ("Dce, be!oidel Gauge ConversioD. that of State Governments. According to The question of starting work on Sakri.. the Fourth AU India Educational Survey, Hasanpur Aew line will depend OD availabi- (1978-79" 92.82% of tbe population is Jity of resources. served by primary schools/sections within [EngliJh] a di~tance of 1 K. M. and 78.83% of the population is served by middle ~cbools/ Sethusamudram Canal Project sect ODS within 3 K.Ms. However. it is known that in many areas, girls have to *502. SHRI R. ANNANAMBI: Will travel longer distances to avail of schooling the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS- facilities POR T be pleased to state: (b) The Government have no such (a) Whether a Working Group has proposal under consideration. recommended inclusion of the Setbul8mu- dram Canal Project in the Seventb PJan; (c) Does Qot arise. (b) if so, the reasons for the delay in [ r. am lation 1 implementation of the Project till date even through the survey work iD the sea was Survey of Sakri-Hasanpnr Rail Line over long ago; and (c) when do the Government propose 10 '501. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN : take up tbe Projeet? Will tbe Minister of R"'ILWAYS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING & TRANSPORT (a) whether the survey of Sakri- HasaDL SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : (a) Yes, Sir. pur raj] line has siDce been completed; (b) and (c) The SeveDth Five Year Plan is yet to be finalised and no decision (b) if so, the expenditure incurred 10 implement the Project has been takeD. tbereon by Government; New Power Generation Scbemr:s of Aadhra P .... desb (c) ..hether it is a fact th.t compeDsa- tiOD has been paid for tbe land to Bihar ·S03. SHRI S. M. BHATTAM: Will Government and Jakb. of people are deman .. the Minister of IRRIGATION AND dmg CO!lstruction of the Jine; And POWER be pleased to state: 35 Writ fell Answers APRIL 18. iq85 If'ritten Answers 36 (a) tbe number and names of the new (c) rhe steps Government propose to powe( generatiun schemes (Super Th"rmal take to expedite them ? and Hydle) submitted by the Government of Andhra Pradesh which are now pending THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATlON.£ h.:fore the PlannIng Commilsion/the Central POWER (SHRI B SHANKARANAND) : Electricity Authority; (a) to (c) I. Schemes cleared by tbe Central (b) the year of submission of these Blectricily Authority (CBA) and forwarded schemes and the stage at which tbey stand to tbe Plarmin~ Commisslon for approval now; and and inclusion in the State Pan. S.No. Scheme Receipt of Report Clearance in the C E. A. by tbe CEA HYDRO 1. Nagarjunsagar RBC Extn. December, 1982 July, 1984 2. Kakaliya Canal June, 198~ Macb, 1983 11. Scbemes cleared by tbe C. E. A. and awaiting clearance from environmental ang1e. 1. Mini Hydel Scheme Kakatiya C~:=al at D·83 at 6th & 7th July, 198' July, 1984 Mileage 2. -do-at 12th Mileage July, 1981 July. 198~ 3. -do-at 14th Mileage July, 1983 July, 1984 4. -do-at 151h Mileage July. 1983 July. 1984 S. -do-at 9th & 10th MIL'ge July. 1983 July. 1984 Ii. -do-at 25th MIleage July, 1983 July. 1984 ------ III. Scbemes under appraisal In the C E A S.No. Scheme Receipt of Report in the C. E. A. 1. Priyadarsbmi Jurala January. 1985 2. Jalaput February. 1985 (ModIfied Report) ------IV. Scbemes where applied/revISed Report is awaited from the State. S.No. Scheme ReceIpt of Report Prescot Status in the C E.A. 1. Polavaram July, 1983 AdditioDal information required b) tbe eEA i. awaited rrom State Authori(ics 2. Srisailam Left Bank Power March.'84 Detailed Project Report HOUle is awaited from State Authorities. 3. Kakatiya Canal (Maniar Feb. 1982 Revised Report is awaited 10f.lI) from Stale Authorilles. 37 Written Answers CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKAl Written Answers 38 The Central Electricity AuthorIty (CJ whether the States alr '504. SHRI ZAINAL ABED[N : Will A scheme of reimbursement of tuition the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to fee for girls in c1ases IX to XII to tbe States! state: UOiOD Territories from 1985·86 is being formulated. (a) whetber there is any proposal Revie.. of IO-Week Long Family Planning under consideration of Government to ..·oos- Campaign truet a fly-over on the N&tional Highway. No. ~4 at the Point of level crOSSJDg adjacent to Kbagra Ghat Road Station on *506. SHRI B.V. DESAI: Will tbe the Hawrah .. Farakka line on the Eastern Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY Raiiway; WELFARE be pleased to atate : (a) whether Government reviewed (b) so, the details tbe[eof~ and If recently tbe strategy for tbe implementation IODIJ (c) if not, tbe reasons therefor? of lO·week family planning campaign which began on 20 March. 1985 : THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) No. Sir. (b) if so, the decisions arrived at and the Mrategy that has been decided upon to (b) Does not arise, follow the family planning campaign durin8 1985-86 ; (c) The State Government of West Bengal has not yet sponsored any proposal (C) what j, the target estimated to be to prOVide road over bridge in replacement acbie\<(;d by implementing ttis proeramme 'l of eXIsting level crossing near Khagragbat Road Stalion on cost sbarin, basis as per THE MINISTER OF HEALTH extant rules, AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI MOHSINA KIDWAI): (a) to (cl A IO·week Ceo(ral Assistance to States for Free inten~ive family plallning campaign startlPg Education of Girls upto School· Leaving from 20th March. 1985 has been lauDcbcd Stage to improve the quality and performance or the Family Planning Prollrammc so that '505. SHRIMAT! BlBHA GHOSH this work is done OD regular basis. The GOSWAMI: performance targets for 1985·86 are 5.56 SHRI MAT! LAL HASDA: mil hOD sterllisations. 3.24 miJIion IUDs" Will the Minister of EDUCATION be 951 millton CC users and 0.96 mllhon OP pJeased 10 state: users. The major fe.rures of the strategy to promOie tbe Family Planning Programme (a) whether the Government will pro- dunna the year )985 86 are: iDlcDslfied vide money to the States for free education efforts using various media channels to of girls uplO Scbool-leaving stage; increase the demand for contraception; oexpension of iofrastructural facilities; s.tream- (b) if so. tbe salient features of such a lining the supply s.yslem; improving pro- sCheme; and gramme maoagfment; upgradation of skills Written Answers APRIL 18, 1985 Written Answers 40 or the starr and, securing maximum possible (d) what remedi,lI steps Government cO'mrnunhy partici~3.tion An,' Action Plan9 propose to uke In the matter '1 has been drawn up to implement these stra- tegic approaches. THE MINIS1ER OF EDUCATION (SHRI K.C PAN f) : (a) Public Schools BlackUsting of M/s. Bhandari Homoeo- are Benerally taken 10 be tbose schools. pathic Laboratories, Faridabad WhlCh arc memhers of the Ind;nn I""llhtic Schools COLIferencc, which is a voluntary 3463. SHRI NAND KISHORE aSSOcldtion regl~krt:d as a Society under the SHAR '>I A : Will the Minister of HEALTH Societies RegislfH.tion Act, 1860. SchoolS AND FAMILY WELFARE b. pleased to which J.re members of this Society all:: eligible s.tate: for sLlch conces'lOn .... unde-c Central and Local Laws. (a) whether it is a faci that Mis. Bhandari Homoeopathic Laboratories, (b) Such schools bdng members of the Faridabad was black-listed by Delhi Indian Public Schools Conference are recog- Administration and Umon Government last nised by the B.).uu of E"am:Dalll~n to whicb year; and they are affillalcd. (b) if so, what are the reasons for which they have again been taken 00 the (c) Govrrnrnent is aware of the expen- list of supplien for supply of homoeopathic sive fce Slructure thdt eXIsts in these public medlcin~s In Government dispensaries? schools No complaints have been received that .. taff and tt' perspec{lve piao9 has been accepted by Conccssion~ to Public Schools Go,c(fl(l1ent: 3464. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLiCK: (b) If ~D. to what extent progress has WIlI'he Minister of EDL"C"-TlON he p',",ed been made; and to atate (C) what IS the effect 00 the mao'"power (a) whether certain public schools '~hicb reqUlrement of Indian Railways glvlng figure. apparently a~k for no giant from GCl.'nll- as (0 how many jobs have already been meat funds but do ,et Illdirect aid in the displased and how many jobs are gOing to form of cbeap land. income tax rebate, out be declared redundant in future? of turn traaspolt facilities plus preference to recruitment etc.; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a The Task Force 10 (b) If so, the details of such schools, examIne the F.DP Systems aDd su"mit the recognised or not by the Government; Perspective Plan for Indian RaIlways wal set up by the Ralhvay Board and Its reDort (c) whelher Governmt"'nt are also aware was accepted by the Railway Board. thar these schools cbarge exorbila:1tly (Tom parents and pay meagre saiaries to their staff (b) As envisaged in the Perspective and teachers; and Plan, four Systems D:veJopment Groul» 41 Written Answers CHAITRA 28,1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 4! were set up between 1978-1981 to develop Orissa and BatiBi in Andhra Pradesh when system de~lg~ on Material !,.!;'ln~gemenf, the backwater of tbe Barrage block the flow Fiaanclal Accounting, Production Planning of the Dullahs near the towns? and Control, A .. sets Management, PeclSonncl Management etC. to be Jmplemented on the THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION 4th Generation Computers. Tbese system AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA- are in va:-:ou~ stage .. of devdapment/imple- NAND) : (a) Yes, Sir. m~ntatton. New 4th Generation Computers in replacement of tbe old IBM-1401s have (b) Accordmg to the Project Report already been installed and are functioning in for Vamsadbara Stage... ], the land required Integral Coach Factory and South Central for submergence and the afflux: bunds behind Railway. New 4th Generation Computers Gotta Barrage is about 186 ba. No village are under installation on the Central Rail~ gets submerged. way and tbe Wheel &. Axle Plant and are exoected to become operational by June, (c) and (d) The Project Report of 1985. For the remaining 7 Zonal Railways vamladhara Stage·II indicates tbe requirement and 2 Production Units. orders for new com- of land (0 be acqUIred for submergence aDd puters are expected to be placed in the near the afflux bunds behind Neradi Barrage a. future. about 685 ha. The project provides for 1065 kms. of embankment along the maio A pilot project at OeJbi tor the com- river on the left flank and 1090 kms along puteflsatlon of reservation of berths and the rigbt flank. In addition, tbe project sea~s is H!cely to be implemented by th~ e-nd also envisage. constcuction or flood prntLC- of tbe year. For frelgOt operations also, a tion embankments along the tCibutaries computerised Operations Information System joining the main river to protect the viJlages is planned to be delcloped with the consul .. of Jag,annathpur and Bathili. Back water laney h~Jp ftom (c) During 1985-86 the Pilot Project is 1. Andhra Pradesh 2 likely to expended to be include another 5LO 2. Assam 2 schools aDd 8 Resource Centres. 3. Bibar 2 4. Gujarat 2 Statemeot 5. Haryana I List of Slates/ Union Terril.ries Indica- 6. Jammu & Kashmir lin[! the Number of Schools AlIoc(!fuJ f.r 7. Karnataka 2 Computer EducQlion Pilot Pr"ject4 8. Ker.la 2 9. Madbya Pradesh 2 51. No. Name of Statei No. of 10. Maharashtra 4 Union Territory School allotted II. Orissa 2 12. PunjablChandigarh 3 1. Andhra Pradesh 10 13. Rajasthan 2 2. Assam 10 14. TamiJ Nadu 2 3. Bihar 15 15. Tripura 4. Gujarat 15 16. Uttar Pradesh 5. Haryana 17. West Bengal 3 6. Himachal Prade.h 5 18. Delhi 3 7. Jammu & Kasbmir 5 19. Goa, Daman & Diu 8. Karnatillka 10 9. Kerala 10 10. Madbya Pradesh 15 Production of Indigenous Drugs 11. Mabarasbtra 20 3468. SHRI MOTILAL SINGH: Will 12. Mampur 2 rhe Minister 01" HEALTH AND FAMILY 13. Meghalaya 2 WELFARE be pleased to state: 14 NagJ.land I 15. Orissa 10 (a) whether Government bave imposed restrictions under the Drugs end Cosmetics 16. Punjab 10 Act, 1940 preventing manufaclure of 17. Rajasthan 10 indigenous dru,. under the small scale 18. Sikkim Stctor under drug manufacturiDg licences issued by State Government ; 19. Tamil Nadu 15 20. Tripura (b) what are the provisions of Ihe DruIP 21. Uttar Pradesh 25 and Cosmetics Act, 1940 wbich specifically 22. West Bengal 20 empower tbe drug cootrol authorities iD Writtelf A"swe,.,s 46 45 Wrirun Answers eRAITRA 27,1907 (SAKA ) the States to deny permission to manufac- Minister on 23 December, 1984 at Rajab- ture import substitute bulk drugs if the mundry? uait wants to manufacture only on small THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS .commercial quantities of the same; (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Surplus railway lands along the track. in the yards and iD (c) wbether tbese provisions, if any. railway colonies used to be licensed directly bave beeD imposed in the State of Haryana; or tbougb tbe State Governments botb to and the railway employees and outsiders in (d) if so, the names of the bulk Drug. connection with GlOW More Food Campaign whose permission bas been denied under even prior to the enunciation of 20 paint the Drugs and Cosmetics Act, 1940 during programme of the Prime Minister ; the last two years in Haryana? (b) Railway Reforms Committee, in their report submitted in Oct. 198~, had THE MINISTER OF STATE FOR recommended that Railway's vacant lands HEALTH {SHRI YOGENDRA given for Grow more food campaigns should MAKWANA) : ta) Tbere are no re.triction be taken back aod ulllised for afforCitalion.. under the Drugs and Cosmetics Act This recommendation was accepted aDd preventing tbe manufacture of drugs in tbe instructions were accordiogly issued to the -small scale sector. The manufacturer bave Zonal Railways. only to comply with tbe provisions of the Drugs and COlmetics Act and Rules for (c) On representation received (com .obtaining licence. S"outh CeDtraJ Railway Employees. lbe matter has been examined and it hat been (b) Tbere is no proYision in the Drugs decided to continue with the revised policy and Cosmetic Act wbich empowers the referred to in (b) above. authorities to deny a manufacturer to manufacture bulk drugs if the ma.nufacturer .complies with all tbe requirements under the drug. aod cosmetic Act for grant of 3470, SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA manufacturing licencc. Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be plea"" to state: (c) and (d) Drug Control HaryanB bas been requested to furnish the requisite (a) whether it is a fact that the Supreme i.formation. Court has q uasbed the order for punisb- ment or break-in·service in th~ railways on Artol'Htation of Rail LiDo the principle, of natural justice ; 3469. SHR! GOPAL KRISHNA (b) if 10, whether it has been imple- THOTA: Will tbe Mioister of RAILWAYS mented and cases of break-in·servicedlav. be pleased to state I been condoned: and (a) whether under 20-Point Programme (c) if Dot. tbe reasons rb""reof? the barren pits and unused wasle lands atong the railway tract was liYen to emplo- THE MINISTER OF RAII.wAYS (SHIU yee. uoder grow mOre food campaign to BANS! LAL) : (a) Ye. S;r. In Writ Petitions cultivate to provide food (or bunlry people; No. 13705 and 13706 of 1984, (b) if 10, the reasons for issoinl by (b) Instructions have been issued to Railwa7 Board Circular No. 7S/Wl/16/78 implement SUOreme Court·s orders in of 16 October, 1984 to introduce fresh respect of the Petitioners of the above policy of afforestation; and Petitions. Sanction bas also been rommul1.... cated for condonation of break·in·,service (c) wbether any action has been taken in c .... of retired employees who surtered on the repre... nlationl made by tbe Soutb loch breaks up,o Feb, 1981 Central Railway employees in Iheir memorandum submitted to Ibe Prime (C) Doe. not arise. 47 APRIl :8,1985 Wrillen Answers 48 Restriction on Journey for Scouts/Guides Uemands of Central Scbools' TeAchers 3472 SHRI PIYUS T1RAKY: Will 3471. DR. K.G. ADlYODl: Will tbe tbe Mini,ter of EDUCATION be pleased to MiOister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: state: (a) wbetber tbe teacbers of CeDtral (a) whether it is a fact tbat Government Schools have been puttlDg tbelr seyeral bave restricted free journey for the Scouts demands before the Government for the last and Guides 10 3()Q KIlcmcucs (50if1gle many months; journey) (b) if so~ their main demands and grie- (\:I) If so, it is a fact that the Scouts vances; and Guides~ similar (0 the Nee, find it dif- (c) tbe actioD lakeD by tbe Govern- ficult to attend camps; ment in this regard and whether Government will accept tbc!r demands; (c) if so, whether Government propose to remove the re~trjcuon 00 [he journey by (dl if so, by what time: tbe Seoutes and Guides; and (e) if not, the reasons therefor; and (d) if DOl. the reasons theretor ? Stai<>meot State wise & Designation.wise total number of emp/o) eeS & teachers ""orking in Kendrl) a V,dyalayas as on 1.5.85 SI. Name of the State Pnnclpa 1/ PGT. TGTs PRTs Olber Office Sialf No. V:ce tcachers includmg PrinCipals Group '0' 3 4 6 7 1. Andbra Pradesb 26 106 162 249 89 16g 2, ADdaman Nicobar Island 01 10 06 09 06 II 3. Arunacbal Prade.b 03 10 07 19 01 23 4. A!lam 24 96 96 224 77 209 S, Bihar 34 147 228 32S IS5 295 W,II_ AutHr. CHAI1'&A 21. 1!1D7 (SAKA) 2 3 .. 5 6 6 ------~------6. Cbandiprb 05 26 70 70 30 41 7. Delbi 30 199 346 402 171 279 B. Goa. Daman d: DIU 02 06 15 20 03 J7 ,. Gujarat 20 90 145 202 68 158 10. HaryllDa 16 62 123 164 83 126 • 11. Himacbal Pradesb 08 20 20 71 06 59 12. Jammu cl K ••bmir 16 51 87 UiS 53 117 13. Kunal_"a 23 1'3 141 232 81 ]46 14. Keral_ 13 43 87 140 59 107 IS. Madhya Prade.h 48 167 23S 50' 1'8 232 16. Nabarasbtra 44 188 326 SIS 178 34' 17. Manipur 03 08 08 14 08 22 18. Meshalaya 04 17 22 32 16 33 19. Mizoram 01 81 04 01 20. Nag_land 02 01 03 02 08 08 21. Oro •• a 13 38 SO 117 108 122 12. Pondicberry 01 OS .,1 11 10 11 23. Punjab 21 8S 166 283 162 182 24. Rajasthan 27 133 194 224 218 224 25. Silr.kim 01 06 OS 09 09 10 26. Tamil Nadu 28 Jl~ 201 291 185 216 27. Tripura 02 07 03 07 II 17 28. UII.. Pradesh 78 397 671 931 603 643 29. Well Benllal 26 102 129 26S 224 2[2 [TrQIIs""wnj (b) tbe steps proposed to he taIr. 3473. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: (c) Ibe targets fixed for 1985~86 for DR. A K PATEL: reducing "aiung Ume involved in leadlna: in SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: cale of waaODS and also the walun& tIme: ID Willtbe Minilter Q! RAll.WAYS he pleased case of passeDge-r coaches al originat,ng and to Itale: krminatrn8 IIt8t10D8; (e) ir so, tbe laraelS fixed for 1985-11-5 Delbi9 alongwith its regional field units at There is no limitation to the Dumber of Gaubati9 BangaJore and Lucknow. and a houR out or a day tbar: a coach/wagon can large number of sel~fed institutions run by run continuously except that it ha, to be State Government. autonomous organisatioD! give scheduled halts, examination, maiDte· and voluntary agencies have been entrusted nance and servicinl at prescribed intervals. with tbe wort of training of leDS functiona... ries. Whever nece'18rY9 new training centres (b) Utilisation of coaches/wagons i5 are identified by tbe State Governments and depcndClII 00 pattern of Itaffie m [&glisb) (C) wbetber tbe laid qD-. have_ ccived an, water .inc:d Chon; EspusIDD ., ICDS Proara- ~ (d) if not, the [euana tberaor: ... (e) wllelber Ibe 3474. SHIlIMATI lAYANTI PAT- _tractor ...... _ MAlK: Wiu tbe Mioist« of SOClAL AND cr.... '" deep tube well ill tbe area failed to WOMEN'S WELFAIlB )Ie pIeuecl to __ culm Ibla abllptioa I. Itlpula&ecl dale: ad CHAITRA 28i 1907 (SAKA) (f) ir so, the action taken by C!cvem- (c) Sincc the train il rUDniDg on GraDd ment in tbil regard? Olord tine, tbe pelsenser. from ItarioDI on maio line avail thoe trains rroID statlODS THE MINISTER OP RAILWAYS 8uiliul their individual cODvenience. (SHRI BANSI L" Ll ; (a) and (b) Yes. Sir. The pipeHac connection to tbese quarters (d) No, Sir. were provided about a year back. (e) RUDning of .hese trainl via main liDe will not be liked by through passenaers (cl and (d) Tb" water supply in tbe.. as it is longer route tban tbat of -GcaDd qUBrt~rS could not be commissioned due 10 DOD-completion of proposed tube-wells in Cbord. Besides. tbe passengC'rs of Grand tbe area. The tube-weUs are expected to be Chord Line WIn be deprived of tbe&e commissioned shortly. soon after which the lervu;es and there win be rC5eDtmcnt .mona ..ater supply WIll be provided to tbe.. quar- them. tots. [ErrgU.h] (e) Ye., Sir. MaoaradariDI! of 6000 lIP Loco_tl.... (rl The contractor ..as rescinded but 3477 SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN : WiD subsequently revived in tbe interest of the the Minister of RAILWAYS be pi.... to hilways. atate: [Translations] (a) ..bether there i. aD)' propoal for the manufacture of 6000 HP locomotive by Pro_I for Ranuln. Neeladlal Klr:preas Chiuaranjan Locomotive Work. for hauli... GO Mai. Line 450,' tODDe loadl at speeds reSiD, bet_ 3476. SHRI VIJAY K MAR YADAV: 80 and IOU km per hour; Will tbe Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state; (b) if '0, the detail. thereof; (al whether Neelachal E"pr.. s is no.. (0) the new technolOlY. if any, involwd .rUDniDJ upto Puri daily; in this pro po.al; (b) ir so, whether tbis train runs OD (d) the prosreu achieved in the matt.... arand chord line on aU the seven days; 80 for; (c) if so, wbether the travcllers from (c) the .teps taken or proposed to "" Paloa aDd other towns/stations on the main taken iD tbi. regard; aDd line on tbe Eastcrn Railway have te 10 to Gaya to catcb tbe traiD ror Puri and (f) when i. the locomotive likcly to be Ibol (ace more h&l'dghip; put on thc rails ? (d) if so, whether Government propose THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS to run the train aD grand cbord line for (SHRI BANSI LAL): la) Yes, Sir. four da)8 and On main 'line for the remainiog three days of tbe week; and (b) to (c) 20 prototype thyri"o< locomo- tives with modern lccbnoloaies inrorpora.. (c) if not, the reasons tberefor 7 ted in ro.aiel.. traosmission and traction equlpmeDts are being imported for extenslVO THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI servjce trails from a minimum of two BANSI LALY- (al NeelacbaI Express i. suppliers with a v~w to select the most rUDDin. tbrice a week. However, on tbe suitable type for tecbnical colla bora. ion for othcr 4 days a new .rain viz 915/916 bas tbeir ser~s indige-nour- manufaclUle. Tbe been introduced betweeD New Delhi and tenders for procurement of 'he prototypes Puri via Gay., Ad... , KIaar.. pur. ace in final atalc for placement of orders. (h) Both th. train. viz. 175/176 aDd (0 The protolypa locomotives ..... 915/916, arc runnilla on Grand Chord line. expecte4 to be received ill India for field APlt.IL,JI, 11115 trials ill 1981-88 and tbe oelec:tiOll of the { Etr,/;s/tJ I7PO to 110 in for bult m.nufact...... ia A ..i .....cc neel"" f ...... UNICEF f ... lodia j. scbeduled to be completed in 1988. I",plementiall N.trilioa P"""'_ Sdoeme Re: Social and W_ea'. Weir..... 3480. SHRI AM ... RSINH RATHAWA: SalnDlCted by A'" N Admlaisiratioa Will Ihe MIDlSler of SOCIAL AND WOMEN'S WELFARE be pleased to ltale: 3478. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: Will tbe Minister of SOCIJl.L ... ND (a) Ihe details of a.si.tan~e in cash WOMEN'S WELFARE be pleased to and tind received from United NatioDa alate: International Chtldren Em.r,ency Fuad (oe implementing nutrition pr081'amme in [Trasiatjo"l Year Supplies Cash I_aelioa of an Express Trala between 1981 5032 3551 Knta aDd Kaoyakumari 1983 5132 3228 3479. SHRI VISHNU MODI: WiU Ibe 1984 2758 3843 Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: ----~- ~------(a) ..hether aoy representation bas bceo (b) Tbese fund. ..ere used for pro- sra0101•• like In,.grated Cbild Development received by Government tor introduction of an express train between Kota and Services, upgradatioD of special nutritioD Kanyatumari; programme, education in food aDd DutritioD~ food and village techoology etc. Alsistance (b' if so, whether Government"" proposo to Gujaral is show below :- 10 introduce this train; ., Year Cash & Supplies (c) if so, by whal lime; and ---- (US S in '000') (d) if DOl, the reasons Iherefor? 1982 4S THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS 1983 292 (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) Yes, Sir. 1984 2S4 (b) to (d) Apart from lack of traffIC _if"tcatiOD, mtrod_ion of a train bet_ (c:) No, Sir. x- and KanbiyakWDJlri is not fcuible due to sIaortaae of ....ources. (d) Does Dot arlIe. CHAITRA If, J!1D7 (SAKA) 57 """." AIUwr, 0lIl---'''' 01 CMII,...·Go,.IpJol motionoI quota 01 tbe posta of "'"It. Supe- Line lat. Broad Gaee rintendent.. Tbil percent.. e hal beca reduced to 25 recently. The balance 7S% 3481. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: "Iuota is earmarked for UDCa/StenDp'a· Will tbe Minioter of RAILWAYS be pleased pher.. The ratio of UDC./Stenograpbero to atate : to PbarlDdcist.·cum·clerk. in M.S. D., Madras i. 2:6: I and the promotional· pros- Ca) whether Govemmeet are cousiderinll pect. for UDC./StCDosraphers and PIIarma· tbe conversion or metre ••uae line into ci_cum·clerkl arc in the ratio of 3 : 1. broad .auge line from Chhapr. to Gopal· I18Dj via Thawel (Bihar) coosiderinll the 11_ of Tlcketa 10 D T C. Pasaeag_ difficulti... of the passenlers in .aid area ; .t!beir Seata Cb) if 80, the detaill thereof; and 3483. SHRJ SANAT KUMAR MANDAL : Will the Minister of SHIPPING (c) whether Government are also conoi· derinlto convert Gopalaanj Railway Station AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state: as junction ? whether hi. attention has been draWD THB MINISTER OF RAILWAYS to tbe news·item captioned "Two DTC (SHRI BANSI LAL) : ca) No, Sir. officials face trial" appearing in the State- man dated 19 Marcb. 1985 and the ohacr· (b) Does not arise. vat ion referred to tberein made by the Addi- tional Sessions ludlO. Delhi about tbe (c) Tbawe, near GopalgaDj, is already practice of tbe Delbi Transport Corporalion a junction statioD. bus conductoII of staying in their seat throulh out the journey thereby requiring the Stagnation iu GoTt. Medical commuters to flock or crowd around him Stores Deptt., Madras to purcbase tickets witb great difficulty and inconvenience ; 3482. SHRI M. MAHALINGAM: Will the Minister of HEALTH AND (b) if so, ..betber he i. aware that FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: despite the existiDg orderl to issue tickets at tbe .tarting point of tbe DTC I>nses to (b) wbetber it i. a fact that due to pro· tbe passengers wbile they arc silting arc vision of 33! per ceot promotional avenues being flagrantly violated by the DTC iD tbe recruitment Rules wi tb effect rrom 1 conductors ; and June, 1974 from the pharmacist-com .. clerks to s.uperintendent cadre, tbe clerks are (c) if so, what action- he proposes to retiring as clerks, without promotions in take to oct malters ript 1 Government Medical Store Depot, Madras ; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTR Y OF SHIPPING AND TRANS- (b) if so, ..hat remedial action bas been PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI): (a) Yes. taken to improve the promotional avenues Sir. to tbe clerical cadre ? Cb) aDd cc) Complaints of noo·issuo of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tickets at tbo terminal points before the DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI start of tbe bus by tbo conductors arc YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : ca) aod (b) received from time to lime and action is There arc 19 POOlS of pbarmacill-cum-clerks invariably taken ..aiDSt the defaultiDII staff. (U.D.C. seal. 01 pay) ia tbe GOVI. Med,cal Instructions are also repeated periodi- Store Depot. Madras Prior to 1st June, cally tbat bu... must be pre-h00i Speedl_. Up of MaIJ/Espr... Traias (c) whether any requests ror Ipeeding ia Northe.. Zoae up of some sucb trains are still "end'DS" with the Railway Administration; and 3484. PROP. NARAIN CHAND (d) if so, the reasons for delay in PARASHAR : Will Ih. Mini,ler of speeding up of these Irains and the JokeJy RAILWAYS be pleased 10 stat. : date by wbicb tbey would be speeded up ? Ca) whetber any Mail/Express Ir.inl THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS bave been speeded up in Ihe Nortbern (SHRI BANSI LAL) : Ca) Yeo, Sir. .... ZODe durin. tbe pasl three years ; (b) A total of 63 train, were speeded up duriog tbe last three yea .., details of (b) if so, the detaill thereof; which is as under: DG MG NG Total May 1982 Time Table 2 3 October 19112 Time Table 7 7 April 83 Time Table 12 2 14 w.e.r. 1.9.83 2 2 November' 83 Time Table 3 3 7 April 84 Time Table .. 4 October 84 Time Table 22 23 w.e.r. 122.1985 3 3 Total : 51 !I 3 63 cc) Yes, Sir. 10pmenl wherein Ibe f.~I, .bal ACO·07 cenlS iD S.S. No. 128 of Palamala wbich was (d) Speedi... up is senerall" possible by di.... boation. Due to .cule sbortale of acquired ror Nalional Hi.b ...." No ~ i. diesel locomotive tbese propel.Is wi II have being milused and unauthorised construction. to wait till aucb time diesel locomot.ves are comins up was brou.bl to Ibe OOI.ce or become available. Director General; (b) if 10, Ibe aclioD laken tbereoo; Alternatively, by wilbdrawinl exi.li... wtop_, trains can be speeded up. This (c) wbether Ibe laud orilioally acquired i. not desirable as it would be resented b" ror National HiBhwa" Road purpose can be the existin& users. giveo away to pnvare pardes ",itbout tbe No lime limil can be giVCD in Ibis coalcnt of Government; nsard. Cd) tbe Dumber of IUch encroacbmenll f.aeradament .... hmd a_ired for OD National H'gb"".y. in Krishna District Nldloaal Hith_" No.5 wh.cb were brouahl to Ibe notice of lhe Government; aad 3485. SHRI V. SODHANADREE- SWARA RAO : WiII1be MIDI.ler of SHIP- Ce) wbat action Governmenl has takeo PING AND TRANSPORT be pleased 10 or propose 10 lake sucb ea... ? _Ie: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB Ca) wIlet_ a representalion was re- MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS- al¥ed by lb. Direclor Geueral, Road 0... - PORT All nodat"" repre_tatioa bu been received (a) ."ether there is any proposal witb in III .. Mini.. ry 0" 1'211l April, 1985. the Rail ..ay Board to lay Rail line from Bellampall" or Ramagundam or Kalaz!I'gar (b) The revenue autborities bave been or Maocbenial to MaDgur to connect the coal belt/industrial belt via Parkal Muln• ..ddr .... d by tb. State Chi.f Engioecr to Bbopalpally, Etun8j;aram in Alldilno arrange evictio.. of tbe encroachment., Pradesh; (c) No, Sir, (b) if so, wbat i. tbe stage of imple- mentation of the project; and (d) and (e) There arc a number of en· croachments on tbe tialional Hi.b... y. in (c\ if Dot, tbe reason. tberefor ? Krishna District The matter II b~ID8 pur- sued with tbe revenue Development b, the State Chief EagiD!Cr to arrange the eviction THE MI"JSTBR OF RO\ILWAYS (SHRI <>f.lI such encroachment•• BANSI LAL) : (a) No. Sir. Mainte.aaoce of N.tl.... 1 HIgh... " No. S (b) and (c) Do not ariac. bet..... n BbabaDeowar aDd lebbopar Nomber or Tra .... Caacelled aa Narl...,.ot 3486. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will F .....tler RaHway ~he Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS· PORT be pl.ased to slate: 3488. SHRI PIYUS TJRAKY: Will the Minisler of RAILWAYS be pleased to Ie) the steps proposed to be taken to (b) if so. tbe number of trains ca...,.,l- improve tbe portion of National Highway led and the reasons thereFor; and during 1985-86; and (e) the details of the existinl train" ? Cd) the amount proposed to be .penl for tbe proper maiotainaocc of that National Highway during 1985·86 ? THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a> No. Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS- (b) Does Dot arise. PORT (SHRI Z R ANSARI): (al and (b) No, Sir. Tbis Section of Iha Nal lonal (c) A statement i. attached. Hillhway No. 5 bal been mainwlIllIled in a traffic worlhy condition, Stal_t (c) aDd (d) A sum of as. 169.00 l&khs (i) 77/78 Passenger between BbogaJpar is earmarked for improvclDeJlt worts to be Barbae.. a and Katibar. lI&tlCtioned durinll 1985·86. besides the aUo- catioD for routine znaiote8&QCC~ (ii) 347/141 PasseDger bet_ How.. 1a and Kalibar. Rail Line j',_ lIeIIa.paIIy/R...... Kapaagar to MaDgur (iii) 59/60 Kamrup Expreal bet ...... Howrab and Ne.. Boogaisoan. 3487. SHRI C. IANGA REDDY: Will Ihc MiDister of RAILWAYS be plcucd to (iv) 57/58 KanchaDju_ Bxpreas bet- atate: __ Howrah and New Ialpaiauri. APIUL tl, 1985 64 (V) 43/44 Darjoeliol Mail bct_ and the cali_ted Itumber at bIincI .,.._ Sealdab aDd New Jalpaiguri. in lbe country Is 9 mllIioo_ Fresh ..mple surveys aro under WII,.. (vi) 155/156 Tiooukia Mail betweeo New Delbi aDd Gaubali. (b) To pre_I eye di_sci in the country, the Goyerment have launcbed (vii) 165/166 Janta Expre.s between Nalional Proaramme for Conlrol of Howrab and New BODgailaoo. Blindness. Tbe pro,..mme envisage, to provide eomprehensi't'e eye care lervice. (Viii) 53/54 Gaur Express between through Mobile Camp .pproach 10 rur.l Sealdab and Maida Town, areas. Tho proaramme .'10 .ims at eatablilb- ment of perm.neat facilitiea for eye health (ix> 901/!I02 Expreos between Gauball care •• an int•• ral part of general bealth and Trivcndrum. services at peripheral, intermediale and central level Under lb. prolr_mme r""ancial (x> 69/70 Fast Pa.SODger between Maida usillance iI orr.red to voJuntaIY organi.... Town and Kalibar. tiona for performina intraocular operations by OlpnllUO, .,.. camps io rural areaa. (xi) 47/48 Passeoser b.""""n MaIda Town and Xaribar. A scbeme 10 prevent blindne., caused by villUDin ..... defic;rncy in cbilduD (xii) 73/14 Passenler between Sinahabad tbroUlLb oral admiaislration of Vllamin 'A' IUId MaIda Town. iI allo beial operated in all tbe Statel and Union Torritories. (xiii) 75 Up Mixed/72 Do. Pa.scII,., belween SinBhabad and Maida Per C.plla Po"er Consamptloa 10 Town. Tamil Nadu S~ey Regllnllag Po...... wltb Eye Dei_"'RIII'IIIA..... 34!1O. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will tho Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER '" pleased 10 slale : 3 89. SHRI JAGANNATH PArr. NAIK: Will tbe Mioiller of HEALTH (a) whetber it il • fact tbat the per AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased 10 capila power consumption in Tamilnadu is slate: very Jow ; (a) wbetber Goveroment have made any (b) if 10, tbe reaaona therefot ; .nd aarvey rcsarding the number of persons aorferina from e,.e defects particularly in (c) wh.t is the present par capita power rural areas ; and. power consumption in TamiJnadu Yis ..... vi. otber St.les ia tb- country 1 (b) if so, !be detail s of the scheme implem.... led 10 prevent ey. di,ease parI i- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB cnlarly in tbe rural area.? D PAI Per Capita Ehctricfr) Consumption in Different States during the yea, 1983-84 (Utili/ies &: Non-utilities) (in KWH) ------Name of tbe Region/State 1983·84 (n I. NORTHERN REGION 1. Haryana 249.84 2. Himachal Prudesb 90.74 3. Jammu &: Kashmir 107.08 4. PUlijab 363.33 5. Rajasthan 12844 6. Unar Pradesh 101.73 7. Cbandlgarb 41657 8. Delhi 46538 Total Northern Region 151.71 11. WESTERN REGION I. Gujarat 277.51 2 Madhya Pracesh 140.20 3. Maharashtra 27383 4. Goa, Daman & Diu 27964 Dadra & Nagar Haveli 91 54 Total W6tern Region 22822 III. EASTERN REGION I. Bihar 91.92 2. Orissa 13702 3. West Bengal 125.56 4. Aouman & I"':icobar Islands 66.35 5. Slkkim 54.67 Total Eastern Region 111.69 IV, SOUTHERN REGION 1. Andbra Pradesb 144.99 2. Karnataka 169.82 J. Keralo I14.61 4. Tamil Nadu J 73.71 5. Pondicberry 220.86 6. Laksbadwcep 60.25 Total Soutbern Reaion '5458 47 Written Answers APRIL IS.198S '''rillen .4nswers 68 V. NORTH-EASTERN REGION I. Assam 41.30 2. Manipur 13 03 3. Megbalaya 70.21 4. Nagaland 4998 S. Tripura 21.46 6. Arunacbal Pradesb 27.57 7. Mizoram 26.70 Total Nortb East~rn Rogion 11937 TOTAL ALL INDIA 155.94 'I Tentative and based 00 population as on 1.10.82 Eklakbi..Balurghal Railway Projel't (c) whether Grants are sanctioned in time; 3491. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS (d) if Dot, the reaSOns therefor; and MUNSI: Willtbe Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : (e) measures taken for timely sanction of grants '! (a) wheth~r the progress of Eklakhi. Balurgbat Railway project whicb was THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION: inaugurated two years before is satisfactory; (SHRI K C. PANT): (a) Amounts sanC- and tioned from year (0 year (0 different volu[)tary orgamsaflons depend upon the (b) If so, when it is likely to be com. performance and programmes of tbe organi. pleted ? sation Tbe follOWIng grants have been sanctioned to lbe Zoram Hiodi Prachar THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Samiti and Ra;;htra Bbasba Vidyalaya (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a, and (b) The con- functloning under tbis Samlti during the struction of Eklakbi-Balurgnat new line IS last three years under tbe scheme of assis- being progressed according to availability of tance to Voluntary Hindi Orgaojsations for resources. Its completion will depend on promotIOn and development of Hlodi. funds made availabJe during tbe coming years. 1981·821982·83 1983·84 Annual Graut. to Zoram Hiodi Zoram Hindi 18.900/- 18,900. 39,900/- Prachar Samiti, Mizoram Pracbar Samiti, 3492. SHRI LAL DUHOMA: Will Rashtrabhasba 1,32,900/- the MInister of EDUCATION be pleased to Vidyalaya ((!JRs. 44,300/- 'I&te : per year for three years. (a) amount of various grants to be sanctioned for the Zoram Hindi Peacbar (b) No, Sir. The Samili bas not .ettled Samiti aODuaU,. ; the accounts or earlier grants sanctioned to tbem. Pend ine settlement of accounts no (b) whetber tbe Grants for 1984·85 bave grant could be released to tbe said orlanisa_ beeo released ; (iOD for 1984-85. 69 Written Answers CHAITRA 28.1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 70 (C) to (e) According to the procedure THE MIt'lISTER OF EDUCATION prescribed for suhmission of applications by (StiRI K. C PAN1): (a) at present there the voluntary organisatioDs for grant-il'l-aid ale 23 PoJyt~cbnics, in Madl",ya Pradesh. under the above scheme, requests shoUld be submitted by the concerned ocganisations (b) to (dl The All India Council either to the Mlniltry thre ugh tbe Slate for Technical Education at its meeting held Government orto Ihe ReginnaJ Officers in I Q81 l1ave recommended that proposals cOoctfoed of Ibe Ca;nlraJ Hmdi Directorate. for establishment of new techmcal ins.ti· (Ministry of Education) by the end of June. tutioas may be considered provided tbat The applications so rece-ived by the Regional (i) these sa(isfy precise manpower uquile_ Officers are scrutinised by them and then ments, (ii) institutions to he opened are placed b~fore the respective State level in areas of emerglnlg technolC"gies and Commit Ices for consic1enlfion and recom ... (HL these Regarding grants to Zoram Hindi In accordance ~itb tbe procedure, the Prachar Samiti during 1984·85. the request project proposals received from a State along with the recommendation of the State Government for opening of a new Poly .. If'!vel Committee was received on]y after techniC are cosidered by an appropriates the: grant·ir>aid Committee bad considered Expert Committee appOinted by tbe respec- the reque5ts for grams during ]984·85. tive Regional Committee of the Council. Moreover, the grant could not be con .. The recommendations of the Expert s~dered due to non·settlement of account~. Committee alongwith tbe r("commendations of the Regional Commit lee arc then cODsi a dered by ~he All India Council fOT Tech- nical Educ'Btion and the Ministry for approval Proposals received from State Polytecbnics in Msdh~a Pradesh Government are examined on ment and there is no fixed number of Polytechnics 349,. SHRI M. L. JHIKRAM: Will to be opened in each district of tbe State. tbe Minister or EDUCATION be pleased to state: No prClposat for op.:-oiog a PolyrechDic in Mandla dj5l:trict bas been received from (al the number of polytechnics in the Government of M:o..dhya Pradesb. Madhya Pradesh: (b) whether Government propose to open such college. in each district of the Use of Cbloromycin and Antibiotic' State witb a view to disseminate technical Drugs education: 3494. SHRI ANAND SINGH: Will (c) if SO, th'J reasons for not opening the Minister of HEALTH AND FA~IILY so for a polytecbnlc In most backward WELFARE be pleased to ,tate: Mandla district which is predominantly inhabited by adivasis; and (a) whetber it is a fact tbat chlaro- mycin Bnd certain otber aohabiotics and (d) whetber priority will he given for drugs use of wbich bas been banned in opening polytechnic colle&e lD Mandla in ~rious developing countries conlinue to be tbe Seventb F,ve Year Plan? used freely in india; 11 Written Answers APRIL 11. HaS Written Answers (b) if 10, tbe name. of such drugs luch deaths may decrease in year 1985 or and antibiotics usc of which bave been to check this disease ? COSldClCd hazardous to human heaJth due to multiple and complex side ef(ects~ bas THE MINtSTER OF STATE IN THE been banned in developing countriel and DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND Indi~ are in use in and if so, the reasoDs FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI YOGENDRA thereCor ? MAKWANA) : (a) Numb« of So for as other antibiotics are concerned. Delhi 52 40 information bas been received that certain Uttar Pradesb 16 Nil countries like USA have banned Tetracy- cline group of drugs in Hquid oral dosage form~ which are reported to cause (bl The following speciflc steps are permanent dental staining in children. So being taken in the country a~ a wbole lac as tbese drugi are concerned, Ministry incJuding Uttar prade~h and tbe Union of Health and Family Welfare has also Territory of Delbi : prohibited the manufacrure and sale of Tetracycline. Oxytetracycline and Demeclo· (i) Every Village is visited fOI(oightly by cycline liquid oral preparations in the suneilJance workers to detcct fever country. cases, co\lf'C~ blood smears and to gIve presumplive treatment. Out of 26 drugs, reported by tbe WHO to have been withdrawn in some countries, (Ii) The lahoratories In the Primary 12 drugs were Dot approved for. marketing Health Centres pro'\iide prompt ex.. in India at all. 8 druls have been with- amination of r!uod smears to fevr!f drawD from tbe marKer and tbe remaining cases and Instilulion of radical 6 drugs oamely: (1) Nitrofuran compounds treatment of positive cases, (2) Pbenformin (3) Hydro.y-quinoline derivltives (4) highe~ dos~ LynestrenoI (iii) Insecticidal spray operations'are under- product. (5) Pi.,eraz;ne and (6) Phenyl_ taken in ali rural areas which bave butazone/Oxypherlbutazone have been incidence of two or more cases per p~rmitted for muketlDg in the country in thousand population per year. consultation with the Medical Experts subject to a cautionary statement and (iv) Drug Distribution Centres and Fever cootca·indication being given on the label/ Treatment Depots are fUDctioning in package iosert. vil1ages 50 that the drug could be made available. with no Joss or time Malaria Deaths in U.P. and Delhi to the patjents. 3495. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: (v) To create public awareness health Will the Minister of HEALTH AND education on tbe subject bas been FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to slate: intensified. (a) number of Malaria deaths recorded (vi) In tbe Urban areas of Delhi, anli- during the year 1983 and 1984 in Delbi/New malaria measure8 compr'8lDg or Delhi and in U·P. ; and weekJ, aDti-Jarval measure. ;0 urbau areas. with larviCides, three round. of (b) What action Government .,ro_ 10 residual in.e.,ticidal .prayinB "ilb take in the matter so tbat the number of BHC in rural areas .nd labour buts 73 Written A1'IS'Wers CHAlTRA 27.1907 (SAKA.) Written Answi!'rs 74 of construclion projects Juggi. and (c) the sleps taken to implement Ibo,e Jhompries. periodical fogging opera.. suggestions? tion and biological control with Jarvivorous filh are allo beine uDder- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE taken. DEPERTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI YOGENDKA MAKWANA': (a) to (c)Tbe Financiat Assistance to Sanskrit Puad.ita Indian Council of Medical Research bal for tbe year 1983-84 initiated some .ludics aimed at reduction in the- incideDce of low birth weights pren.Jal 3496. SHRI MULLAPALLY RAMA. and neonatal mortolity. These 8tudle~ a!'e CHANDRAN: WUl tbe Minister of Slill to be completed EDUCATION be pleased to Itate : Rear Indicator Lights in D. T.C. Buses (a) whether tbe financial assistance granted'aa the Sanskrit Pundits in tndlgcol 3498. SHRI DHARAMVIR SINGH: cilcumstances for tbe year 1983~14 has been Will tbe Minister of SHIPPING AND paid to the cecepjents of Kerala State; and TRANSPORT be pJeased to state: (b) if so, the detail. tbereof ? (a) wbether it i. a facl that most of the D_T.C. buses plying In the Capital have: no THE MINISTER OF EDUCA nON rear indicator Jights ; aDd (SHRI K C PANT): (a) and (b) The Ministry issued sanction letters to the Education (b) if so, whether Government would Secretary of the Government of KeraJa in take urgent steps to install indicator ljghts in December. 1983 and February, 1984 request .. all tbe D.T.C. buses to avoid road iDg payment of financial assistance to 83 accidents? Sanskrit Pundits in indigent circumslaoces for 1983-81. The Goveroment of Kerala THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE has also issued orders to tbe Director of MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS- Public Instruction of tbe State in February. PORT (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI) : (al No, Sir. 1984 aDd September. 1984 for disbursement Rear Tndicator light is a standard fhment of tile amount fo the concerned pundits in an DTC quses. Ibrougb the respective District Collectors after verification of tbe annual income of (b) Does not arise. tbe pundits, The Ministry hal Dot yet received information from the Government Power Consomption in KerBls of Kera(a as to whether the payments bave been made. 3499. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: Will tbe Minister of IRRIGATION AND ICMR's Suggestion to Reduce Low Weigl1t POWER be pleased to state: Birth as well as Prenatal and Neonatal Mortality • (a) whether the consumption of power in Kerala is likely to increase substantially in the next five yean: and 3497. SHRI K. PRADHANI : Will Ibe Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY (b) if so. what spl!cific steps are being WELFARE be pleased to Slate: taken to augment the power generation in Ihat State 1 (a) whelher Indiao Councial of Medical Researcb bas suagested to tbe Government THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to take several measures to reduce the DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRl ARUN incideoce of low weiaht birth and prenalal NEHRU): (a) Yea, Sir. aDd neonatal mortality; (b) The Idama1ayar, Kakkad. Idukki II, (b) if so, the details of tbe measures Kallada and Lower Periyar Hydroelectric sUlBested by Indian Couocil of Medical Schemes. witb a 10lal capacity of 710 MW', RCIC'lICb; are presently under implementation in KOlala Wriltltn Answers 76 75 Written Answers APRIL 18,1'85 medici~s and arc scheoduIed to be commissioned in of T. B. and availability of for different years- 01 tbe Seventh Plan period. Ircalmenl of T.B. witb a prOlramme Four more hydro schemes Wifb a tolal included in thfJ 20·Point programme durin, capacity of 250.5 MW have been tt"chno~ Ibe Seventb Five Y"ar Plan 7 economrcalJy cleared by the Central EJectri- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE city Authority. Kerala has been aJlocated a DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH rSHRI share of power from some of the Central YOGENDRA MAKWANA):. (a) Yes, Sir. power projects in the Southern R~gio[]. A National Sample TB Survey was conducted Sample Tested in Government Laboraties on tbe years 1955·58 by Ibe I.C.M R. to as~eJl the prevalence rate of TB in the 3500. SHRI R M. BHOYE' Will tbe country Limited surveys have also been Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY conducted in the subsequent years in Delhi. WELFARE be pleased to state: Mannapalfi (Andbra Pradesh), Karnataka, Chiol;!leput. (Tamil Nadu). Kashmir valley (a) wbetber some edses hav~ come to etc to study the prevalence fatc due to TB_ knowJedge of Government that the samples both in the urban and tbe Tural areaS. tested in tbe Government laboratories are not found upto the standard; and fbI Tbe findings of tbe study bave indi- cated that the prevalence rate of TB IS (b) if so, 'the details tbereof ? almost the same in the: rutal as well as 10 the urban population. AI about 80% of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tbe population is livIDa in tbe rural areas, DEPART""ENT OF HEALTH (SHRI tbe number of TB patients among tbe rural YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) Yes, Sir. population is higher than Ibat among the Some of tbe tamples collected by the Drugs urban population. ID'Spe'ctors under tbe Drugs and Cosmetic. Act and bv the Food Jnspectors under the (e) As per sludy conducled by the Prt·vention or Food Adulteration Act for National Tuberculosis Institute, Bangalore. testing in the GOVI. Laboratories are the mortality rate due to TB wa, estlmaled found not Ul>to tbe standard. at 80 per one lakb population in 1968. Recenl (b) Out of tbe samples tested in tbe studies conducted by tbe Institute have indi- Gov~rnrnent Drugs and Food Laboratories, cated that the mortarity rata has come down about 15% in the case of dr ugs and about to about 53 per one lakb population AI 13j'~ In the case of food stuffs are found such n is estimated that about 3 50 lath nor uplO tbe standards. persons succumb to TB dilease aD~ualiv. T. B. Patients Particularly in Rural The prevalence surveys have indicated Areas the nearly 1 5% of the population is suffe. ring from radiological y active 1"B diSea'iC 3501. SHRI ANANDA PRASAD SETHI: of tbe lungs of wbich about 114tb or 04% Will tbe Minister of HEALTH AND are spulum positive or jnfecllons. Based OD FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to Slate: these flndmgs It ,s estimated that there are about 10 mIllion persons suffering from (a) whether Government have made radIOlogically active TB dl~ea!te of the lungs any study regarding the number of patients of which about 25 mJ]lIoD are spulum of T B. particularly in rural population; positive or infectJous Since BO~~ of the (b) whether its number is higher rn the population is living ID the rural aecas and rural population while comparioa It with the remaiDing .0% in the urban areas 8Dd the Urban population; the prevalence rate beiDa aJmost tbe same .. it is esfimated that there would be about (c) wbat Is tbe average death annually 8 million TB patients jn tbe ruraf areas and due to tbe disease of T B. aud tbe number remainlDg 2 millioD in the urban areal. of palienls in tbe rural as well as in Urban areas; aDd (d) Yes, Sir. It is already included in the 20 point programme. II il proposed to (d) wbether it i. a fact tbat Government intensify TB cale delection and treatment ...... kiD, active .tops (OJ: tbe eradication achvilie. during tbc Sevenlb Plan pWiod. 77 CHA1TRA 21. 1907 (SAKA) W,ilten AnaK'ers 7a Number of SC """ ST EIJIployees In THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THe C.W.C. I< C.F.F.D. DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN NEHRU): (d) If~. tbe details theROr and (e> An incentive paymenl of Ro. U.s financial lou suffered '" Government ? lakht was due in 1983.&4, which was paid 79 Written Answers APRIL 18, 1985 Written Answers to tbe Neyveli Tbermal Station ror distribu- Ganga Flood Coutrol Commission regard- tion amoDg the employees of the Station. ing the Lower Damodar Drainage Scheme- An award of Rs 2.80 erores also paid in are under consideratioD. 1983-84 to Neyveli Lignite Corporation is to be utilised for the renovation/betterment (b) No, Sir. of the Thermal Power StatioD and is Dot meant Cor distribution to workers. Action against Delbi Ayurvedic and Uoani Examining Board aDd (d) Tbe amount of Rs. II 5 lakhs bas Collection of Capitation Fees been distributed to the employees of the Neyveli Thermal Power Station on 11.4. 1985. 3507. SHRI K. RA MAMURTHY Will tbe Monister of HEALTH AND Central Assistance to States for Construction FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: of Mini Health CeDtres in Orissa durlnll 6tb Plan (a) the details of co-ordination that exists between the Central Council of Indian 3505. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL: Medicine and the 40 Universities that Will tbe Minister of HEALTH AND conduct examinations as prescribed by the FAMILY WELEARE be pleased to ,tate: Central Council of lndlan Med icine; and (a) whether Central assistance to being (b) tbe action taken by the Central given to different States for fbe construction Councit of Indian Medicine against the of mini health centres by upgrading sub- Delhi Ayurvedic and Unani Examining (;entres in each tribAl block; and Board, which has recognised two cul1e&c:s of Indian Systems of Medicine without PI e~cri (b) the steps taken In this regard bed facilities and who also coJlect capitation dl.T10g Sixth Plan period in Orissa '1 fees from students for admiSSion by them? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE INTHE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) No, YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) Coordin3- Sir tion between the Central CouDcll of IndIan Medicine and the various universJtlel is achieved through tbe elecled members of (b) Does not arise. the Central Council from the University Recommendations of Flood Control constituencies Section 3 (1) (b) of the Commission regarding Lower IMCC Act. 1970 provides as follows: Damodar Draioage Scheme "One member for each of the Ayu[veda, 3506. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH Siddba & Unani Systems of medicine Will the MlDister of IRRIGATION AND from each University to be elected POWER be pleased 10 stale: from amongst themselves by the members of the Faculty or Depart- (a) whether Government have considered the recommendations of Flood Control ment (by whatever name called) of the respective system of medicine of Commission. regarding the Low~r Damodar that university. n Drainage Scheme 'P bieb can save Howrah and H )oghly districts from recurring floods and coln help producing more crops; and (b) The Examining Body, Ayurvedic and Unani Systems of Medicine, Delhi (b) whether the planninll Commission Administration affiliated three colleges in bas cleared the scbeme for implementation? 1978 out of wbicb one college has already been dc-affiliated lD 198~. In case of THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION another college n mely Ahimsa Ayurvedic AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA· College, the Examining Body has not allo- NAtoI D) : The recommendationa of tbe wed admi.sioos to the coll08e .iDee 1978, 81 Writl~n Amlt'ers CHAITRA 28.1907 (SAKA) Written A"sH-ers 82 due to non_availability of adequate facHi~ (English] ties in tbe college. Only S, n, Ayurvedlc College: is affiliated with tbe Examining Steps Taken to Divert Congestion of Body. Cargo in Bombay Port 3509. SHRI HUSS"IN DALWAI: Will Tbe reco~nition of the qualifications tho Miniqer of SHIPPING AND TRANS- being awarded to tbose admitted 1 ~78 PORT be pleased to state: oDYI'ards ;s under the consideratlon of tbe CCIM. (a) what Sleps Government bave taken so far in order to divert Ihe: congestion of No in:;tance of charging of capitation cargo at the port of Bombay ~ fee by these college~ bas corne to the notice of the Ministry. (b) wb.'ber Nhava-Sheva port would meet the growmg n~eds of a Satellite port; [Tra"~/alfon] and Person in Possession of Hug£' Amount (c) the reasons for by·passmg the Apllrehendpd by the Cash Guard of original concept of developing a Satellite Delhi Railway Casb Office port as an alternative port with independent hinterland based on migration of population 1508. SHRI HARISH RAWAT : Will from conge~red port? the Minister of Railways be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS- (a) whe1ber Government are aware that PORT ISHRI Z R. ANSARI): (a) There on 16th March. 1985 the Cash Guard of bao; been flO lJoticeable cC'nge">tion at Delhi RaiJway Cash Office' appTehrl"'dect a Bombay du~.ng the' pa.-;.[ one year. Howe\'er. penon who was in Oost;l!!"ssion of Rs. 16,400/- i eeplrg in view the gro\\lh ('f tr.lffic at in small noles of c.r.e ar:d tWf'i rupee Bombay pon. the constructJOn of a r.cw denomination; Port at Nhava Sbeva b:ls been sanctioned in September ]9~3 at an eSllmatd co~t of (b) jf so, whether the bag. containing Rs. 5U6 Clores. these notes has heen se;:,Ied : Peodmg the development o~ port f.:,cihties (c) the actiofl taken agaim;:t the culprits~ at Nhava She va, I.he Bombay Pon Trust and the steps being takeD to prevent such have taken the folloy".lDg measures :- incidents; and (1) ~fobi(e crant.;; havt:: been acquired (d) whether such incident$. bave taken exclusively for shed managcrnem~ place on earlier occasions as well ? (2) Warebouses have been tal.:.":'1 on hire THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS to augment por"~ W~H e.-hOUSIng (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (0) and [h) Yes, Sir. capacity to siore uncleared cargo~ (c) A joint departmental enquiry bas been (3) Hulk cargo is allowed fO be dis- ordeff'd. Action against the Shroff who. was charged in docks only if direct carrying the money and othel )'obarr round delivery of such cargo is arran!!ed. at fault will be taken on completion of the enquiry. (4) A S-Y5lem of regulating entry/exit <,'f vehicles in docks by duty rrt'rmits Security arrangements ha\le been tightened bas been introduced. up furtber. (5) Vigorous efforts ate made to speedily (d) No sucb case was detected prior 10 dispose of u[&cleared cargo by auction thr present one. sales and other mode$. 83 Written Answers APRIL 18, 1985 '171';( tell Answers 84 (6) To rationaJise container handling Nbava Sheva. it was decided to haave a operations- !-,cpJrate port (rust to nunaie the facilities being created there. (i) Mode: n container handHng equipment lIke quay side aDd Implementation of Nations' Hi~bway yard gantry cranes h3ve been Ylorks Planned during Sixth Plan instaiJed. 3510. SHRIMATi JAYANTI PAT. (il) Interim container management plan has been Inrroduced to NAIK: Will the Minister of SHIPPING ensure proper distribution of AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state: container aCtivities OD commOIl u~er basis. (a) the details of National Highway works orlgmdJly planned for implementation (iii) "'1angane~e Ore Depot~ Timber during tbe Six!h Plan: and Pond and Frere Basin arc being developed as container freight (b) the progress made so far in imple- .. tations 10 streamline conlainer menting those National Highway works '! activities. THE MINISTER OF SlATE IN THE (b) The Nhave Sbeva Port is being MINISTkY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS· dc\'cioped as a fl.ll! led,:ed IOdependent POIt. PORT (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) and (b, The targets for developmeDt of National (C) Taking into consideration the scale Highways durmg the Sixth Plan period and and nature of operations envisaged for the likely acblevements an: as under :- PrinCipal item3 Targets Likely Achievements ConSlruction of mlss~ng links 196 Kms. 07% \Videning of single lane carriage way to two-\"oe witb or "hhout strengtheniDg 4224 Kms. IOO~"o Strengthening of ~xisting weak double 2238 Kms. 100% lane sections Widening roads to 4 or 6 lanes 130 Kms 81 ~~ Construction of byepa~s around 52 Nos, Sl ~'~ congested towns Construction of major bridges 103 Nos. New Courses on Electronics and (b) if SO, thl:! details thereof: and Computer Sciences in Engineering Colleges of l\:ladhya Pradesh (c) reaction of Government thereto '? 3511. SHRI PRATAP BHANU THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION SHARMA: Wtll tbe Minister of EDUCA- (SHRI K.C PANT): (a) Yes, Sir. TION be pleased to state: (b) and (c) Proposals for intIoduction (a) \".. hether it is a fact that. Government of' new courses in Electronics sod/or Com- of Madhya Pradesh have recommended the puter Sciences have beeD received from requests of some Engineering colleges of the Madhya Pradesh Government for Govern.. State for starting new courses of e)eclronics ment Colleges at Rewa and Ujjain~ G S. and computer sciences from the next session; Institute of Technology and Science, Indore It I it tell Answers CHAITRA 2P, 1907 (SAKA) and Maulana Azad College of Technology, have been advised from lime to time to Bhopal Tbey are under different stages of ensure that no encroachments take place on consideration J:!y the All IndIa Council for NatIOnal Highway land and al.so to take Technical Education and the Ministry. remedial measure~ under the provislODS of PubJk Premises (EVIction of Unauthorised [Tram/arIOn] Occupants) Act. ]97] for removal of encroach- ments~ Besid( s, as a result of the recom- Representation for Attaching tW() mendations cf Ihe CommJtlte Ht up by the Calcutta Bound Bogies at Kota Government in February. 1982 to review the with A wadh Express working of the agency system, a task force 3512. SHRI SHANT! KUMAR has bern set up to study the problem of DHARIWAL: Will the Mmister of RAIL- encroacbrnen. and ribbon dcveJopment WJtb WAYS be pleased 10 state , the uJumate objective of enactmg a Central Leg.slation in this regard. (a) wbether Government have Tec~ived any repres~ntation to attach two Calcutta 2_ The Government have also taken bound bogies at Kota with the Awadh steps to constr uct Iruck parking complexes Express running between Kola and Kanpur: along National Highways at a few selected locatIODI on an experimental baSIS $0 as to (b) if so, what steps Government Railway Ovel'bridge at Kuttippur:1m propose to take to curb such encroachments OD Public land along the National 35J5. SHRI K P. UNNIKRISHNAN Hlshways ? Wllllhe Minister of RAILWAYS be pJeased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS- (a) whether alignment of the railway PORT (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (b) The State GOVIS., who are tbe (b) if so, when the construction work executing agencies rOt National Highways~ is likely to be &tarted; and 87 l¥ritfen AnsJVers APRIL 18.10;85 H rittell ,-IIlSH'C"S 88 (c) what is the ~riority given to the sutlgest norms for maintenance of Flood work by the Southern Railway? Control Works; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (bl tbe work taken up in Andbra (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) to (c) Tbe work Pradesh and funds pro\'ided by the C:ntrc of constructioQ of overb[ld~e at KuttlPPUlam during 1983-84: and 00 the Nallonal Highway ha.;; bet"n included In tbe Railways Bueget for 1985-86_ Tbe (c) the rea<;ons for not providing any detailed plans for this work are being amount for Andhra Prad"h for 1984·891 finalised JOIn'ly I"-y the Railways and the State Governmeot and cODstruc:ion wi.d be THE MINISTER OF II'{RIGATION taken up after fiaaliz.• uion of plans and A:-ID POWER (SHRI B. SH-\NKARA- e.timatcs. NI\NO): !.1) A slatement showing the ffil.lO rec.)mn-';lldations o~ the Expert Number of TeachiDg DaYlll in Schools Commitlee 00 Norms for ma1D1enance of d!ffereot types of flood protection and 3516. SHRI CHINTAMANI JBNA: drainage works is ~nclosed. Will tbe Mini"" of EDUCATION be (b) and (c) Maintenance and repairs of pleased to stale: fJo!)d confrol work.s are looked after and (a) whether It '!I a fact tbat the Ichools provided for entireJy by tbe: respective in Delhi and elscwnerc III [be county bavc States. No funds are provitled by the ju" 120 to 140 teachillg days as against Centre. 240 days pre-'icrihed by the National Council of Educational Research and Training; Statement (b) if so. the reasoas therefor; Stalempnt . hO';j'mg the main recommenda· (lOrIS nf Ihl! Lx{'ert Comm~tle~ on ,V,;,.msfor (c) whether any ~tudy bas been conducted maIntenance r~r dlff~re'1t fypeJ of flood in this regard~ anJ protC('lio"l a.,d Jrcil:tr,'?e ",orks. <._d) if so, the detail. thereof'? The norms recommended for 1982·83 were as under: THB MI"ISTER OF EDUCATION (SHRI K.C_ PANT) : (al No, Sir. (b) Does nor ari5e. R •. 12000 to Rs. 17000 per km. in tbe first three years after construction and (cj Yes. Sir. Rs. 9000 to Rs. 120()O per km. in subse~ ... Iuent yca:s, the lower rates to be adopted (d) National COUDCl) of Educatlonal foe embaokmems, up(Q a height of Research :Iud Training undertook a study 3 metres (10 ft.), For armoured embank· entitled . "Currkulum Load al the School meots lower rate" to be adopted, LcvcJ-A Quick Appraisal". It bas been recommended that Directorates of EducatIOn In case of embankments silO_ted in &tJ.ould ensure 220 workmg days out of wbicll alC1S of heavy monsoon rainfall of tbe tbere sbould bo at least 190 in.tructional order of 1500 mm or more, an increase days. of 10% in the above ratcs IS recommended. Recommendations of Expert Committee In case of embankments along rivers on Flood Control witb a flood discharge of 10000 cumecs or more, an i[]crease of 30-40% is 3517. SHRI N.V. I-tATNAM: Will tbe recommended. Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pJeased to state: Drainage cllOllne{s (a) the mam recommendations or the Discharge upto Expert Committee CODstltuted in 1982 to 5 cumecs Rs. 2000 per km. Written A1UW~J.t CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) W, itten Answrrs 90 Discharge between [Translation} 5 to 15 cumeCO Rs. 250U per km. M P. Power Projects Awatting CI~rdDce Di~charge above 3519. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: 15 cumecs Rs. 5000 per km. SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI: WIll the Minister of IRRIGATIONAND The above rates will be applicable for POWER be pleased to state: llon-tidal channels. III case of channell, in -tidal areas, the above rates will be upgra- (a) the names of the thermal power Construction of railway bridge at Dhone Strength, Budget of RPF lIis-a ..l'is Lots in Kurnool District lA.P.) due to Pilferage of Railway Propel1y. 351S. SHRI K. RAMACHANDR ... 3520. SHRI G.G. SWELL : Will tbe REDDY: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to be pleased [0 state? state: (a) whether there is any proposal (a) the strength, budget and organisa- before Government for COnstruction of a tloDal structure of the Railway Protection railway overbCldge at Dhone in Kurnool Force; district in Andhra Pradesh; and (b) the lOIS on account of pilferage of (b) whether Government are consi- lailway property during the year 1984; dering to take up construction of over- and bridge at an early date? (c) the oUlstaDdtng claims on account of theft of goods transported by railways THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS o uriog the year 1984'/ (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (b) The Railways are undertaking lhe (SHRI BANSI LAL): (a) A statement IS construction of road over bndae on deposit attached. terms on behalf of Ministry of ShIpping and Transport. Contract for the work. bas (b) The los. on account of pilferage of been awarded and the work is in railway property during the year 1984 progress. amounts to Rs. 5.45 crores. 91 Writtf!n Af'swi'TS APRIL 18, 1985 92 (c) Figure for the number of cases THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS outstanding on account of theft of loods (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) No, Sir. Central transported by the Railways is not main· Bureau of Investigatlon~s report bas pot tained separately. been received so far. Statement (b) Does Dot arise. The RaIlway Protection Force is headed (c) Yes, Sir. Tbe services of the by a Director General witb it Cbief Secu .. Chairman of the Commission were termi- rity Officer on each. Railway. 1 here IS a Deputy Inspector General in charge of the nated wi,h effect from 25·6-1983. Railway Protection Special Force. (0) aDd (e) The finalisation uf the final The Chief Security Orficer is assisled panel is heJd up on account or on~going by a Deputy Chief Security Ofneer. A C B I. inv~stigatioDs. HOYiever. OD Ibe ~nJor Security Officer or a Security Offic~r basis of earlier provisional panels cODraming is incbarge of a Division. In some morc 664 names, certain offers of appointments important DjViSioDS, he is assisted by ODe or had been made. Pending C B.I. investiga_ more Assit-tant Secunty OffIcer. The tions, no more offers are being made from Divisions are divided into post.s. and sub- tbis provisional panel. posts under the charge of an Inspector and sub·Inspector respectivel),. They have Road O\"erhridge at Cuttack RaU"ay UDder them a suitable comple:ment of subor- StatioD dinate staff In [he zone there IS also a ~mall nucleus of staff tor fire, prosecution 3522. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI- anJ JDtelJigence. GRAHl: Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: A sum of Rs 104.96 crores has been rrovided in the Budget for 1985-86 for the (a) what was the total cost for construc- Secour Ity Department tion of the road overbridge at Cuttack Railway Station level crossing and the The total strcolth of the Force including approach road; the kallway Protection Special Force as on 31.' 1984 is 67,512. (b) what wa3 the share of the Railways; (C) whether the Railways have reJeased Enquiry against Railway Senke tbeir share amount fully by now; and Commission, Bombay (d) whether the State Government had 3521. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR MISHRA made any escalation In Its origlDal esti- Will tbe MInister of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: mated cost? (a) wbether the enquiry conducted by THE MINISTER OF RAIL WAYS Cenu al Bureau of lovesejgation against the (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) The total esti- Railway Service Commission, Bombay mated cost for construction of road over bridge at Cuttack Railway stat 100 is regarding selection of candldatel fOT railway servi:::es has been completed; Rs. 2,64,3],740. (b) if so, the details thereof: (b) The Railway's sbare of cost for thi. work is Rs. 1,30,68,085. te) wbetber the Chairman of the ComolJs- sion has since been removed; (c) An outlay of Rs_ 1,20,68,000/- has been provided upto 1985_86. (d) whetber the selected condidates have been appropriately placed in the railway (d) The State Government is reviSing 2ietVlce; and t be estimate for the portion of the work (el if oot, (he reaSODS therefor? being executed by them. 93 Wrillen An.Jwers CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) WriIt~" A",wers 94 :-Traslatiollj (a) whether it is a fact that no rC(:[uit- ConStitutioD of Railway Users CODsultative ment has been made in Delbi Electric Committees in Western Railway Supply Undertaking for the past many years whereas tbe number of offjcers bas 3;23. SHRI NARSINH MAKWANA: doubled since then; W,ll tbe Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased -state: (b) if so, whether al a result thereof the supply of electricity bas been adversc)y tbe reasons for Dot constituting affected ; and Railw31' Users Consultative Committee in the Western Railway and the number and (c) whether Government propole to abolish contract system which is in existencc particu1ars of tbe perSODS recommended for these Committees: fcom the very beginning jn Delhi Electric SUpply Undertaking? (b) tbe Dumber of Divisions ID the Western Railway in which Consultative THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Committees have been cOD!ltituted and the DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRJ ARUN time by which these Committees wHl be NEHRU) : (aj No, Sir. constituted in the remaioiol Divisions ~ and (bj Does not arise. (c) the matters on which advice is sought from these Committees and the (eJ Delbi Electric Supply Uodertakiug arrangement!. made for complying with the has no proposal to abolish the system of getting some electrical works done through decision of the Committees? contractors. THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Production of Contraceptives \SHRI BANSI LAL) (a) and (bj All tbe Eigbt Divisional Railway 3525. SHRI SHANTARAM PATDUKHE: Users' Consultative CommIttees OD tbe Will tbe Minister of HEALTH AND Western Railway have already been FAMILY \/;ELFARE be pleased to state: constituted and are fUDctioning for the term ending 31.1:!.19~5. The Zonal Railway (a) what is gross production 01 contra- Users' Consultative Committee on this ceptives in the country : Railway is in the process of constitution. (b) tbe device wbicb i. most popular (c) The matters on which advice is amongst our people for Family Planning; souaht from these Committees mainly include subjects such as provision of (C) whether any help was received from amenities for rail users, proposals regarding other countries for gcuing fa mil,. planning opening of new stations, arrangements devices ; and regarding Time Tables and improvements .of the otber services and facilities provided (d) if so, the details thereof? by Ibe Railways. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE All possible efforts are made to imple- DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI ment the proposals accepted at the meetings YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) and (b) A of these Committees subject to their total of 602 mIllion pieces of condoms and feasibility and availablity of resources. Action 24 36 lakh cycles of oral !Jills are reported to taken on the Minutes of the meetings of these have been produced in the country during Committees is also advised to the members. the year ]984-.85. Use of a particular method is related [0 a number of factors meludmg the age, number of children,. personal preference etc. of the coup)e. Recruitment by D.E,S,V. During the year 1984-85, there were 2.91 million acceptors of s[erllzation, 1.72 3524. SHRI LALIT MAKEN: W,ll miHion of IUDs. 6.95 million of equivalent tbe Minister of IRRIGATION AND CC Users and 0.51 million of eqUivalent POWER be pleased 10 state: O.P. Users till31-1-8S. 95 TJl'ritfe/f AnlWerS APRIL I~, 1985 Writlen AnsK-er. (c) and (d) All our requirements of ca) whetber it is a fact that Iran Govern- Copper T are imported through UNFPA ment have requisitioned Indian doctors for and sometjme. USAID as commodity treatment of their soldiers and civilians assistance; similarly raw-material for oral suffering from the effects of cbem.cal pills is impDlted through UNFPA. weapons during the fight between Iran and Iraq; and [Tra".lo~,Vi;; (b) if so, the details tbereof and deci- Thermal Pow~. Plant for ChiUorgarh sion taken by Government thereon and 1he 3526. PROF. NIRMALA KUMARI reaction of the Government of Iraq thereto? SHAKTA WAT: Will the Minister of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI state: YOGENDRA MAKWANAJ: (3) No formal request bas been received from the (a) whether Uoion Government propose Government of Iran for the deputation of to set up a Thermal power Plant in doctors for the treatment of their soldiers Chittorgarh district of Rajasrhan keeping in and civilians suffering from the effects of view the power ~hortage there ; and the chemical weapons. (b) if '0. the time by wbich work would (b) Docs not arise. comme-nce and the amount proposed to be ~ pent tbueOD ? Doubling of Garhi Harsnfu Pataudi Road Rail Line THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN 3529. SHRI LALA RAM KEN: Will l'EHRU) : (a) and (b) No proposal to set Ihe Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to up ..:i thermal station in Chittorgarh in the refer to Unstarred Question No. 3051 Centra) se.::tor is under consideration. answered on 15 March. 1984 regardmg i EI.'!!lish)' double line between Garhi Harsaru and Pataudi Road and state: Introduction of a train between MU7.arrar_ pur and Madras via JaRlsh('opur ~nd (3) the latest progress of (he construe· Kbaragpur tiOD of the said line and the expenditure incurred so far: and .1527. SHRI LALITESHWAR SHAHI: "'"I .he Minister of RAIL WAYS be pleased (b) the likely date of its completion? to state : THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (a) whether his Ministry are cODsicering (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Present progre.. the poslilibilify of introducing daily direct is 7 51 ~~ Expenditure incurred upto March, tram between Muzaffarpuf, Barauni and 1985 is Rs. 8J lakhs. Jarnsbedpur; and (b) Completion of work .. ill depend on (b) ..he. her Ihere is any propo,al 10 availabiJity of funds in tbe coming years. introduce a train between Muzaffarruc to Madras via Jamshedpur·Kbaragpur ? Export of Die6el Locomotives THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS 3530. DR. CHINTA MOHAN: Will (SHR I BANSI LAL) : (a) 91/92 Muzaffar- the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to puri 4 TataDsgar Express is already running state: dai~y. (a) whether diesel locomotives 3:fC beiDg .b) No, Sir. exported to other countries; n.equest for Indian Doctors by Iran (b) if so, the details of exports made Government duIiDg last three years; 352B. SHRI CHITTA MAHATA: Will (c) ..bat i. the value of components of the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY imported items in each diesel locomotive WELFARE be pleased to state :: and total export price; and 97 H IIHell Answers CHAITRA 28,1907 (SAKAl H/r,lten Ansilers 98 (d) where these are exported after Similarly Semor Booking Clerks ID grade meeting IDternal demands in full ? Rs nO·56O whose d.ne of oipPolDtment 1:. 28-9-1967 or earlier have been promoted to THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS grade Rs 425 -640 subject to their having (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes, Sir. been found suilable. (b) DUring the la.t three years, 15 (c) No, Su. Metre Gauge diesel locomottves have been exported to VIetnam. (d) Does not anse a (C) Tbe value of the Imported Items 10 a diesel locomotive expolted to Vietnam JS R. 7 5 lakhs. The total ex port pllce per Upper Pravard. Irrigation Project locomottve IS Rs. 80 lakh., 3532, SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE (d) Ye., Sir. PATIL : WIJl Ibe MlDlSte of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to slale : [Tra",dollon (a) whether 11 is a fact Ihat tbe upper. Lack of Oppnrtunities for furtber Pravara IrrrgatlOn Project in District PromotioD to Booking CJera Abmednagar. Mabarashtra hal been sanc- tioned, but the work on thi!!; project has not 3531. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR: yet been started ~ Will the MlDlsler of RAILWAYS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the finanCial allocatJons made aDd the Central assistance provided for lbi. (a) whether Government's attenllon bas pr{1Jcct ; and been drawn to the news-Item .ppeanng In (c) the reasons for deld\ In Slartmg • Jansatta' dated 9 March, 1985 under tbe tbe work and the likely tJme by wb)ch the COD.5- captloc 'Promotlon Nahm Mlla-Clerkon Ka llUCtiOD Will btart ? Dukhra' (Promotion not given, grievances of Clerks) regardlDg Jack of opportuDitles THE MINISTER OF IRFIGATION for further promotion to BookIng Clerks AND PO\vER (SHRI B. SHANKARA_ havJDg rendered 20 years of serVIce JD NAND) : (a) aDd (c) Tbe Upper Pravara Northern Railway DIVIsion. Deihl; IrflMatJOn Project waS approved by the PJaDDlDa CommiSSIon JO 1977 The Govern- (b) If so, the reaction of Government In meDt of Mabarashtra have intImated that regard thereto; tbe work on dam proper could not be slarfed due to land acquIsitIOn problems (C) whether the rule:, of prornoflon ID Howover, fte Canal works are In pro~ each diVISIOn are dlfferen[ ; and gress 10 some strefches through (be Stato's (d) If so, the reaSOD5 therefor? Employmenl Guarantee Scbeme 7be work 00 the dam WIll be started as 'Sooo as the THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS reqUired land IS In band. (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Yes, Sir. (b) An expenditure of about Rs. 4 crores (b) It 18 incorrect to say tbat Booking is anticipated to have been Incurred on the Clerks who have 20 years of servIce bave prOject upto March, 1985. An outlay of not been given promotion As a result of Rs. 1 crore from the Plan funds has been restructurlDg of Commercial Cadre, among proposed by tbe State Government for the others, In December '83. all Bookmg Clerks period 1985-90 ID the Slate's Draft Sevenlh on Delhi DIvIsion whose date of appoint .. FIve Year Plan Outlay proposed for menl in grade Rs. 260·430 IS 2-1-1976 or 1985-86 IS Rs 20lakbs Plan assistance ro earlier have been promoted as Scnlor States is prOVided by the (:enrre as bIOt:"K Booking Clerks in grade R. 330·5,0 sub- grants/loans not related to any Secror of ject to their bavmg beeD found suitable. activity DC to any prOject 9~ JJ"ritlen AmM.~T." "PRIL 18, 1985 Writ/en Anlwers 100 [Traruiu!ior<] theme ot the Congress was progress lhrough knowleds~~ in mentel lctardation The Rail Line flOm Bodl Sadri to Neemucb 'Subjects discussed included various aspects of mental problems such as diagDosis, manllgc- 3533. SHRI BAI.KAVI BAIRAG1: ment. special education and rehabilitation. Will the Mmister of RAILWAYS be pleased The Congress fd t I hat there was need for 10 state: tally diagnosis and rarly intervention. (a) ~hether the Ministry in accordance (c) Thue is no specific data but some with iii decision to link Badi Sadri with specialists in the field ale of the view that Ncemuch rhrough a railway line had got a there is an increase ID cases of mental survey conducted of this rail Hne ; ["clardation, (b) if so, when and whether GovernmeDt Target Achievement of Sterilisation Itill propose to Jmk thiS route through [be Ope-ratio. Performed in Gujarat Rail HIle ; and and Target foo' 1985 3535 SHRI R.P. GAEKWAD: Will (c) the distance in Kilometres be[wecn the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY tbe said two places BDd the estimated \VELFARE be pleas~d to state: expenditure hkely to be incurred thereon at present aod gauge: of (hiS tme proposed to (a) the targer of sterilisation operati('lns be laid? fixed for Gujarat for the: year 1985 ; THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (b) the number of sterilisation oocra- (SHRI BANSI LIl.L) : (a l and (b) Thore is (IOns already pe"Iformed during the fir'iit DO proposal fol' the Badi Sa.dri Neemuch ~hree months ot 1985 : liak, nor was any survey conducted (C' \\hethn the figures of ~terjljsalion therefor. op~rations performed duriog the year 1984 and during the first three months of 1985, (c) No 5urveV for tbe sugg;s(cd line has show tbat Gujarat State could not achieve been carried out. 100 per cent target and 1S Jagging behind; [Eng/ish_ aDd Sejeatific Studies of Menta I Deficieocy (d) If' so. tbe reasons there of aDd the steps taken to correct the shortcomings? 3534. SHRIMATI MADHURI SINGH: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Mini,tcc of HEALTH AND DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHR! PAMILY WELFARE be pleased to slale: YOGENDRA MAKWANAJ (aJ to (d) For the year 1984·85, the steriJj~atjon target (a) whelber tbe VU ]mernational COD- for Gujar3.t was 3 lakbs, According to ,he gress of the International Association for available information about 2,56 lakh :be Scit'nlific Studies of Mental Deficiency steriiisatic.os were performed during the year. was held recenlly In New Delhi; Of these. about 1 14 lakhs were done during January- March. J 985. Achievement of (b) if so. (be details (If the dis.cussions targets depends upon a number of factors. held and Iht" conclusions reached at tbe With a view to improving tbe programme Conference; and performance various meaSUres have been takeD not only to increase the demand for (c) whe[h~r it is a150 a fact that the contraception but also extend the ou( ... reach Dumber of mentally retarded persons is of services and supplies. increalling day by day in India? Vamsadbal'a Project of Andbra Pradesb THE MINISTER OF STATE 10/ THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI 3536. SHRI APPA YY A DORA YOGENDRA ;,lAKWANA): (a) and (b) HANUMANTU: Will the Minister of Yes l Sir~ This Conference was beld in New IRRIGATION AND POWER be plea.sed Delhi from 24th to 281h March, 1985. The to slate: 101 Writ tell Answers CHAITRA 27,1907 (SAKA ) Written Answers 102 (a) the total funds allocated for the [Trar-dotionJ Vamsadhara Project in Srikakulam Dif)trict of Andhra Pradesh by .be Centre and the Gas Ba:;ed Power Plant for Etawah funds actuaIJy reJeased, indicatjng the original and the present cost estimates; 3537. SHRI NIRMAL KHATRI: \\-il1 tee Minister of IRR1GAlION AND POWER he pleased to stat~: (b) what is the total .rea that will be irrigat~d by (hi, Project and what !s the time fixc:d for complelion of tbe Project; and (a) whether Governm~nt have taken decision for selling up a glas ... based power (c) whether the Project will fully utilise plant in Etawah DUHrict of Vttar Pradesh; tbe total potential and watersupply available (b) :0;0. thf' co~t iovolve-d iu thi! plant from this river '1 jf and tbe time by whicb this plant is likely to be cowplt'ted ; THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHRI B SHANKARANAND) : (e) wbat will be tbe co.t of prodnctioo (a) Centre provides block Joan:'ll/grants 10 of power to be produced by this pl;:t Dt and tbe States and it is not tied to any sector of whethfc this production C05t of power will development or Individual project be less or more than the production cost of power produced by Therma) Power Plants Andbra Pradesh has faken up Vamsa· and Hydel Po wee Plants; aDd dhaca Projecl In two slages. The Stage-l of the project was approved in 1972 for (d) the place'!' in the country "bere Rs. 8.17 crotes and its revised cost is now Government pr opose to set up such Power indicated to be Rs. 5l.15 crores. By tbe end plants '? of March 1985~ Rs. 31 l~~ crates are antici- pated to have been spent for the Stage·j THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Proj(ct. Anchra Pradesh has sent !be DEPARTME!'>lT OF POWI: R (SHRI AR UN projecl report on Stage 11 of the Vam50adhara NEHRU): \a) to (d) Governmer.I have Ploke! at an estimated cost of Rs. 154.35 decided to set up in the Central sector gas ecores in May 19~ 3 to Centra1 \\'ater Com- based power stations with a Iota} capaci~y of miSSIOD for techno-economic clearance and 1500 M \\' with combined cycle tcd.DOloiY obtaining approval of the Planning Com- at Kawa~, Suwai Madhopu, and Aunya missIon By the eud of March 1985. along the alignmeot of the Hazlra·Gijaypur~ Rs 2,65 crOfes is anticipated to have been )agdbhpor gas pipelIne. The C05tS of the spent for tbe Stage·I1 Project. projects and power gl:nt"IatloD etc. Will be k.nowB \1Iohen detailed proje;;, reports are ready. (bl Vamsadhara Stage-l Project will create a new irrigation potential of 20.14 tbousand bectarcil and provides stabli5ation for cxistiQg areas of 39.85 tbousand hectart's. CODvtl'Sion of Bangakre·l\fystJre n.aiJ Vamsadbara Stage.]I Ploject envls",~('s ena· Line jDt. Br.ad Gouge tion of an Irrigation pOLential of 4341 thous.and ha Stag.!- j and II o~ the Project ,538. SHRI V.S. KRISHN A IYER: are likely to be completed In tbe VIII Plan Will the MiDlster of RAILWAYS be pleased after 'be aspects of submergence are sorted out by Andbra Pradesh Government wi1b to state: Orissa Gov~rnmcnt. (a) when the coo,"'ersion of Ban~a!ore· Mysore rail line to broad Sauge was (c) 50% share of Varnsadhara Riycr waters .laod allocated to ADd bra Pradesb by sanctioned ; and an agreement with Orissa and the St.·] &: II of tbe Vamsadbara Project propos. to fully (,b) the progress made ~o far OD conver- utHile tbe same. sion of the said line? 103 Wrillen An.. \IoLer$ APRIL 18, 1985 1C4 THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Survey of Rail Lines ill Kt'rala (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) Tbe cODversion of Bangalore-Myscrc rail line to broad 3540. PROF. P.J. KURJEN : gauge was approved in the year 1979·80. SHRI GEORGE JOSEPH MUNDACKAL: (b) The pleseot progress i. 20%. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will Ibe Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased 10 slale: SymJ)lom~ of Meningitis and Precautionary Measures thereof (a) the details of rail lines under survey in tbe State of Kerala ; 3539. SHRIMATI USHA CHOUDHARI: (b) whetber representations bave been Will the Minister of HEALTH AND received f ,r the Cochin-Madurai and FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: Tiruchl-Pauanathiua·Punaloor rail lines; and (a) the 5ympwms of Meningitis disease; and (c) jf SO, th! action taken by Govern- ment thereon ? (b) the precautionary measurcs: which are to be raktn by the common man in this THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS regard? (SHRI BANSI LAL) : (a) The surveys for the rollowing are in progress in the State of THE MINISfER OF STATE IN THE Kerala DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI (1) A New Broad Gauge line from YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) Tbe Cochin to Bodinavakkanur and cJinicaJ picture of the disease is cbaracteri- its extension by conversion of sed by sudden onsel of high f~vcr. intense r-..felre Gauge jnto Broad Gauge headache, naU1ca and often vomiUing, irom Bodmayakkanur to Madurai. stiffness of neck, photophobia 'disllk.e of light) aod frequently a petechial pink or red c.) _:'\'cw hne from Trivandrum to mascular rash Occasional fulminating cases CheDgannur I Kayamkulam VIa exhibit sudden prostration and shock at Koltarakara as an alternative to onset. doubling from Chengannur to Trivandrum via QuiJon_ (b) The followmg prevo!Dtlve measures can be taken: (b) Representations have been received for Cochin- Madurai and Tjruvalla (and (i) Prevention of over crowding in liviol not Tl£uchi)-Pattamhina-Puflaloor rail Imes. quarters,. public transport, work places etc (c) A survey for Cochin-Madurai Sect jon is in progress, (Ii) Proper ventilationj of living and sleeping quartc£s of tbose specially Low Cost School Building Recommended exposed to infection because of by NCERT overcrowdlD8. 3541. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: (iii) bola t ion of patients and avoidioa: Will the Minister of EDUCATION be coming in contact with the discharges pleased to State t from the nose or lhroat of the patient. (a) whether low cost scbool buildings (iv) Institution of timely chemoprophyl- have beeD recommended by a reccnt seminar organiled by National Council of Educa- actic and therapeutic measures_ tional Research and Training in Delbi ; (v) In case or sU'Jpected case or meningitis (b) if '0, .be delails tbereof ; aDd report should be made immediately to local health aUlhoritics and (c) Government's reaction to these medical advice sougbt. I ecommendatioDS ? 105 Written AnswerJ CHAITRA 28. 1907 (SAKA) Written Ansuers 106 THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (b) whether it i. also a fact that all (SHRI K. C. PANT) : (a) to (~) In a the lates of the dam are opened durirl-g oDe~day national JeveJ meeting on lEduca· rainy season and cJoscd thereafter as a tional Need. and Trends Related to School result of which no water flows into tbat Design' organised by NCERT, on 23rd civer and the irrigation projects are affected; March, 1985, tbe construction of low-cost and scbool buildings was one of tbe proposals considered by tbe National Group, However. (c) if so. what remedial measures no concrete recommendation emerged. Government propose to take in this regard? Plaos to Develop Higb Tension 'fHE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION Transmilsioa AND POWER (SHRI B SHANKARA- NAND) : (a) to (c) The HMG Nepal have 3;42. SHRI SA.TYENDRA NARAYAN constructed a Barrage on the river Kamla .~INHA: W,ll the Minister of IRRIGATION in their territory upstream of the Jayanagar AND POWER be pleased to state: Barrage in Bihar as a result of ~hich availibillty of supplies for existinl irrigation (a) whether tbere are plans to develop from JayaDsgar barrage in Bibar bas heeD 400 KV and other higb tension trans. considerably reduced. HMG Nepal has mission S)'stems to distdbute power with been appri.ed of tbe problems that Ibe -increased efficiency; barrage is creating iD India. Furtber~ it has been suttgcsted to HMG Nepal to consider (b) if SOt any foreign assistacce will the possibility of an upstream .torage dam be utilised 10 this reSpEct; and to meet the water requirements of both tbe countries. (c) ir so. the detalls (bereof with the expected saving in transmission losses and -E"gli.,"~ -cost benefit analysis of tbe projects? ConnectlDg Suburban Railway of Sealdah THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DivisioD with Circular Railway from DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI Uo.dam ARUN NEHRU) : (a) to (c) Yes Sir. 400 KV rraoosmission sYltems are already under 3544. SHRI ASUTOSH LA W : conslruction and High Volrage Direct Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Current tecbnology is being introduced for to state: the first rime in lhf! country. High Voltage Direct Current back-to back link between (a) whether Government arc conSidering Vindhyacbal and SingrauH is beiog to connect suburban railway of Seakiab commissioned with assistance from Sweden. Division, Eastern Railway directly with Transmission of power at higher voltage Circular Railway from Dumdum; results in lower losses. which also depends (b) if so, the details thereor ; and on distance of uansmissioD and other design parameters. (c) jf not, the reasons therefor? [T,un,la'ionj THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Affects of Kamla River Dam io Nepal MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) :(a) Yel, Sir. 3543, SHRI ABDUL HANNAN ANSARI: Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND (b) Dum Dum Station being a com mOD POWER be pleased to state: station between Suburban Railway of Sealdab, Division* Eastern Railway and the proposed Calcutta Circular Railway, wjIJ~ (a) whether it is a fitct that Nepal have thereforet CODncct two systems. constructed a dam at Mircbiya on Kamla river which flows through Nepal to Madbubani district ia Bibar; (c) Does not arise. 107 W,itun An.Ht.Ers APRIL 18, 1985 Written Answers lOS Thermal Power Plant for Chbula Nagp.r scheduled to run on 143/144 Hazrat Nizatnuddin-Puri Kalinga Express trains. 3545. SHRI RAM RATAN RAM Will the Minister of IRRIGATION AND Migration of Qualified Doctors to POWER be pleased to slale : Foreign Countries (a) whether no provision bas heen made 3547. DR. G. YIJAYA RAMA RAO: for setting up of a Thermal Power Plant in Will Ihe Minisler of HEALTH AND Cbbota Nagttur area of Soutb Bihar where FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to 'Iate: coal, water aDd labour are very easily available on cheaper rates than the other (a) whether it is a fact that the qualified sites where such plants have been set up : doctors are migrating to foreign countnes and due to lack of jobs and ir SO~ State-wise and year- wise figures for the last 3 years; (b) whether Union Government propose aDd to !let up a Thermal Power Plant in Cbhota Nagpur area under Expansion of power in (b) wbetber Government prapost" to Ccntral Sector and if nor, the reasons take measures to utilise the services of lbe tbereof ? highly trained doclors for the neglected peopJe spcciaJly io rura1 areas by providinl: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE incentives, specially co.agenial warkiD&: DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN conditions? NEHRU, : (a) At present Patratu (Unil No. 10, 110 MW) and Tenught (2x210 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE M \V) thermal projects are under implcmeD~ DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRJ 'a"f')f1 in the Chbola Nagpur area. In YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) Migrallon addllioD. Bol health care services to attract a larger (a) tbe estimated cost 01 Vamanapuram Dumber of Doctors for service in the Irrigation project in TcivAndrum District rural areas bas been launched. Arrangc~ of Kerala ; ments have allo been made for hoMing the prestigious examinations by the (b) what are the dC"taHs of expenditure National Board of Examination wbich incurred so far year.wjse since tbe project correspond to foreign qualifications C.g. was ulldertaken ; and F.R.C S., M.R C.P. etc. (c) what is .he prescnt stage of the Brnefic8 to Government Servants wbo Under~ work and when the project is Hkely to be go Family PlanniD, Operation completed? 3548. SHRI B. K. GADHAVI: Will THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION the MiDlster or HEALTH AND FAMILY AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA- WELFARE be pleased to s,ate: NAND) : (a) The estimated cost of the project is Rs. 37.12 crores. (a) whetber it i5 a fact tbat Government servants under.oing family plannjng (d) The project was taken up for execu- operations are giveD financial benefits like tion in 1979. The details of expenditure are increments etc; as under :- (b) llpto how many chiJdren such Period Amount benefifs are given; Upto 31.3.1980 Rs. !I.54 lakhs (c) whether it IS a fact tbat a Gvernment 1980-83 Rs. 31.12 lakhs servant who undergoes for family planning oiJeratioD with one child onJy is not given 1983·84 Rs. 19.00 lakbs such benefits and jf so, the reasons therefor; alld 1984·85 (anticipated) R •. 10 00 lakbs (d) whether Government propose to Rs. 71.66 lakb. given financial benefits even to a Govern- ment servant wltb ooe child only wbo undergoes family planning operations? (c) Tbe project is in its preliminary stage of execution and is likely to be THB MINISTER OF STAT!'! IN THE substantially completed by tile end of DBPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRl Seventb Plan (1985·90). YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) to (d) Ceo [cal Government employees, undergoing Running Assam Mail 00 Broad Ga nge steri!izltion after two or three chrfdct!D are line between Barauni and Gauhati eligible for a speCial increment not absorba .. ble in future pay increases ~t% rebate on 3550. SHRI AMAR ROYPRDHAN JDterest in hOllse buiJdlDg~ advance and Will the Mini'ter of RAILWAYS be 'Special casual leave, subject to conditions pleased to state: laid down in th: relevant Government -orders. Tbese incentives are not admIssable (a) wbetb.er it IS a fact tbat Assam Mail to Government servants who undergo goes OD Broad G.1.uge hne from New Delbi sterilization with one child only However, to Barauni and from there It goes on Mctre the issue of allowing in entives [0 those who Gauge line upto Gauhatj ; and undergo sterilization with less than two children ;;:1 under consideration. (b) if so, the reasons for not running 1hlS lrain on Broad Gauge line throughout Vamanapuram Irrigation Project from New Delhi to Gauhati via Barauni 7 35~9. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWER MINiSTRY OF RAlLWAYS (S'JRI be plea.ed to state: MADHA VRAO SCINDlA) : (a) Yes, Sir. ill r..Vritten AnSlrer." APRIL 18, 1985 Written Answers 112 (hl Due to lack of resourC('s viz. present. there are six associations formed by coaches diesel locomotives and maintenance various groups of emplo),ces of the Ken- racilitie~ at Gauhati, it is not operationally driya Vidyalaya Sanllatban. feasible to extend this traiD upto Gauhati at (b) No, Sir. present, Me:ro Railways for Madras and Bombay (c) and Cd) In re~pOD.e to a question in tbe Press Conf.crence held 00 August 30, J551. SHRI E.S.M. PAKEER MOHA- "')S4~ the Commissioner. Kendriya Vldya- MED: : Will tb. Minister of RAILWAYS Jaya Sangalhao, stated that, inspite of _ be pleased to state : repeated adVice. the All India Kandriya VidyaJaya Teacbers Association had not (a) whether the Railways have any plan lubmHted applicatIOn wirb full documents to implemc:nt tbe Metro Railway sysfem in for de-jure recogDJtion. as requncd under Bombay and Madras: the rule•. [ Trlln.lation] (b) if SOt when aDd if not, the reasons tberefor ; and CotI,eU;iOB of Arrab.. Sasaram Rail LiDe (c) wbetber the security system bas beeD iDto Broad Gauge taken care of in Calcutta Metlo system "! 3553. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR YADAV: Will Ibe Mmiolrr of RAIL WA YS be pl.ased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to state: MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) No, Sir. (8) whetber Government bad ta1:en a decision maoy years ago to conVCll Areab- (b) Metro Railway systems being bigbly !)asararo rail line mto broad gauge cost intensive are considered only if surface Jine; or elevated construction is not possible. (b) jf so, ""berber survey work in this (e) Yes, Sir. regard bas also btll!"R completed; and R E'cognition of Associations of Stafr (c) if so, tbe reasons for delay in of Kendriya Vidyalalya Sangatban Implementing tbis deCision? 35<2. SHRI ZAINAL ABEDIN: Will THE MINSTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of EDUCATION be pleased to MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (5HRI state : MADHAVRAO SCINDlA) : (a) 10 (e) The erstwhile Arrab-Sasaram N.G. line tdl whether it is a fact that there are was c10sed in 1978. A Preliminary four Associations of diffennt categories of Engineehng-cum.. Trafflc Survey tor a new staff of tbe Kendriya V,dyalaya SangB,ban; B.G. line from Arrah to Sasaram (98 km,). (b) if so, wbetber all tbele four Asso- bas been completed. Jts cost was assessed ciations had been granted de facto reco&ni· at Rs. 26 Crores and H wa. found finan- cialJy Dot viable, Due to levere constraint tion on 6 January ~ ) 982; of resources.. (his project has not reen approved.. te) if 80. is it also a fact that the Commissioner and Deputy Commissioner bad [ r:.nglish] told the Preis on 30 Augusl, 1984 that none of these four Ass.ociations were recognised; Sub-Slandard Drugs MBuufadur (b) if so, what action Government have 3556. SHRI M. MAHALINGAM : Will taken against thaic multinational units? the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to st.te : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMEr-.T OF HLALTH (SHRI (a) the number or posts in Group D. C, YOGENDRA MAKWANAJ: (a) and (b) B and A Wh1Ch are be~og filled direcli) in ConTrol over manufacture and sate of drugs e.G.H.S. Ucpanmenf, Madras; under the DruJ!.$ and Cosmetic Act/Rules is exercised maiDly by the State Drug (bJ tbe posts beinG filled by promotion Control Authorities. by the departrfJt:ntii.1 l.-dDdldatu in Group D.C,B. and A In tbe above department; Info[mation is belog conceled (rom the State Drug Control Authorities. (c) what is the criteria pre~cribed in tbe RecrUItment Rules. for promoticn. from Cost of Production or Electricity Group 'D~ to Group 'C'; 3555. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: (d) the number of departmental candi- Will t,e MlDi.ter or IRRIGATION AND datcs who have bten promoted from aD" to POWER be pleaoed to Itate: 'C' and bow many group 'D" departmental employees have not been promoted to (a) ".bether there has beeD any rise In group ·C· Cadre SlOce 'he inception of tbe IDVeStmCDl cost of installation per megawau of tbermal power dU[1rlg tbe I&&t C.G H.S. Departmen, at Madras aDd the three year5.; reasons thereof: and (d) The cost or power is one or the (C) the exact amount of compensation several variables which can affect tbe gencral paid by tbe Railway "dminiSlratiOD in Ibis economy. It is Dot practicable to assess regard and the total value of the consign- the Impact due to an increase in tbe cost of ment! against which 1he ctaims hcive been power alone. paid? 115 ~Vrittell Answers APRIL 18, : 9£5 Written Answers 116 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sation paid on each zone during the year MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRr J984-85 are as per rhe statement att.:t.ched. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) Yes. Sir. The value of cL'Dsjgnm~nts aga'nst which (bl and IC) The amount of compen- the claims bave been pa,d is not o;ation c1aimed and the amount of campen .. maintained. Statement Amcunt claimed iD Amount paid io 1984·8S on accoun t 1984·85 on account of loss/damage of loss/damage (in lakhs of R. ) Central 4,381,00 193.95 (UpIO Feb' 85) Eastern (No( majotaiaed) (upto Dec.' 81) Nonbern 6,42700 (upto Dec. 1984) N. Eastern ( ..... or maintainC'd) 44.40 (UpIO Fcb.' 85) N. Frontier 6~~47.47 7394 (UPlO (Dec: ~41 Southern 4.397.88 204.1J1 (UpIO Dec.' 84) S. Central 269.68 37.69 (uPIO (Dec.' 84) s. Eastern (Not malDlained) 266.72 (uplo Dcc' 84) Western 4,607,00 G07.00 (uplO Dec' 84) New Universities Cleared by U. G.C. in (a> whether the University Grants Goa, D2maD~ Diu, Pondicberry and Commission and tbe Government have Arunachal Pradesh cleared the proposal for the scttlOg up of Universilles in tbe Union Territories of Goa" 3558. PRflF. NARAIN CHAND Daman and Diu, Pondlcberry and Arunachal PAR ASHAR : Will the Minister of EDU- Pradesh during the Seventh Five Year CATION"" pledsed to .tale: Plan; 117 "",ilten An"we" CHA1TRA 28, 1907 (SAKAl W,itl~n An~ ... er,~ JIB lb) jf so, lbe nature of the Universities the fulfiilm(rt of tbe n-quilcmenrs of aDd the latest progrcu ID their sanCUOD physlc:otl-cum· D'lfdical faL;~:"o; b~ h:d() (OVon and opening alongwnh the likely dale by under the rules There ale no prOVlsrons willeb tbese would Slart fUilctIOUIfi&; and for regulatlDg the cbarges of st.I(.,h prlvalc nursing homes. (c) If not. wbether a decis.ion in each CaSe woujd be taken shanty and tbe hkely The Gov-crnment is providing free date:s by which tbe decisiou would be medical facilities in tbe Govel nment tak.en '! Hospitals to all the members of the general publiC who may like to avail of it. These THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION facltilies are constanlly reViewed for (SHRI K.C. PA"T) : (a) and (b) Tbe jmprov('ment~. wHhin the avaHable financial proposals for tbe establu.bment of univer- resourc,s. sities In Goa and Arunachal Pradesh have already been approved by Central Govern· Adult Education .And Anti Illiteracy ment and Umvenity Grants Commission. Campaign The UmvcrsilY ill Pondlcheny is to be SCi up under an Act of PariJament as a Central 3560. SHRI PRIY A RANJAN DAS UDlVC£SUy for wh:cb the legjslOltlon is still MUNSI: WiLllbe Minister of EDUCATION [0 be introduced In Parliament The legisla- be pleased 10 s[ate: tions for the Goa and Arunachal Prade~b universities ba ve been passed by the legis~ lature'l of these uDion territories The (a) whether Government are aware that Arunacbal Pradesh University Act has been adult educatIOn aDd anti illiteracy campaigD enforced from AprIl 1. 1985. AccordlOg among the women of mlDoritics. HarlJanl to informatlon available, the Goa Umvcr- and lrrbals have Dot )ct galOed any momen- tum; and Sit)' Act has abo comc 1010 force: (b) If so, the steps GO\ternmcllt propo~e (t.:) Does not arisc. to lake 10 this regald '} Int£nduction of Health Suvice Schemf' for Middle Class People THE MIl"ISTER OF EDUCATION (SHRI K C. PAN1): (a) Progre" under 3559. SHRI N. DENNIS: the Adult Education P.rcgr~m.me lS moni- SHRI G. BHOOPATHY: Will tored regula.ly, and a:'t per Ie-pons received tbe Mlllister of HEAL1H AND FAMILY from the States/Umon TerrJtOTies. the WELF ARE be pLeased to state: coverage of women was 5':.2~% under the Adult Educatron Programme. in December, (a) whether it has beeD brought to the 1984. The coverage of Sched~!kd Castes notice of Government that III some cases BnJ Scheduled Tnbeo;; commulJ'w:s upto -charges in tbe p;lvatc nur. IDg home JD the Seplcmber, 1984 Wd~ 29.";% anu 15.~~ Metropolitan Cities. particularly in Delh!" respecllvely of ",hleb 48 1 % and 37 4% arc vuy high; and were Scheduled Caste~ and Scheduled Tribe" women respecti'vely. (b) if so~ whether Governmen[ propose to introduce a heaJtb SerVice scbeme ID (b) The State Governments/Union hO~lJital.~ to cater to tbf:: middle class on Terrhories bave been requested to moderate payments and extend taCllltles to depute doctors practising privately for (i) to lay special emphasis on the tblS purpose on a paym~Dt sharing coverage of the larger groups r:amely basis? women, Scheduled Calles and Sche.. duled Tribes under tbe Adult EElu· THE MINISTER OF STATE IN cation Programme; THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) and (b) The private (ii) [0 ensure that at least 5G% of the NurslD& Homes are required to be .rCIJS- learners in the Adu't Education tered under the respective Acts subject to Centrc:s are women; 119 ~~rilten ~AfI!iI~'('r~ APRIL 18, 1985 Written Allslrl'rs 120 liD) '0 ('ncourage voluntary oTganisa- (a) whether it is a fact fhat Karnataka tion~ to run literacy centres exclu- Government have decid~d to hike the power sively for women, grant-in-aid rules cut on high tension consumers upto 60 per have been relaxed to permit tbem cent wi tb effecI from Sept. 15, J 984 ; to take up a minimum Dumber or five centre~: ('=) if r so, whether tbis cut continued even after 15th September also; (iv) Priority is given to the opening of adult educatlOD centres in rural aDd (c) if so, whether both the industcies adivasi areas having literacy rate and the consumers have been greatly affected below the national average in general by lhis power cut; and and female adult literacy in particular; and to locaL~ adult education (d) what steps Government of lndia centrel OD t .... e basis of population propose to lake to help this Srate overcome of Scheduled Caste. and Scheduled this oower shortage which has bM::n continu- Trllxs; and ing in the State for a Jon8 tjme 1 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (v) an incentive scheme bas. been instituted DEPARTMENT OP I'OWER (SHRI ARUN un. er which centre leve-l awards. NEHRU) : (a) to (c) Yes, Sir. district level awards and State level awards :Ire ~iven to the Stales/Union (d) In order 10 overcome the power Territories foc cxu:llent performance sbortage in Karnataka, the Slate is being in Adult literacy for women. given substantial .ssi&tance from Maba- rashtra and Andhra Pradesh whenever tbeir Swedish help for Hyde. Power Plants s)'stem conditions permit such Iransfer of power Besides, a capacity of 310 MW 3561 SHRI N. DENNIS: Will tbe is programmed to be added in the MiDisTer of IRRIGATION AND POWER Karnataka !'ysl"em durlDg 1985·86 New be pleased fo state: products aggregating to 1077 MW arc also under vaCiOUS stages. of cons(TUctioD~ b~ne_ (a) whether it is a fact that the GoverD- fits from which will be available progres- ment of Sweden has offered technological sively in Ihe next couple of years. consultancy ana inputs for setting up b ydel power plants in IndIa; and Import and lncrea~e in Indigenous !\1anuracture of Sight Saving (b, if so, the details of the agreement, Drugs and Equipment if any. arrived in this regard? 3563. SHRI B.V. DESAI: Will the THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE Minister of HEALTH AND PAMILY DEPARTMENT OP POWER (SHRI ARUN WELFARE be pleased to state: NEHRU) : (aj and (b) In April, 1984, tWO Agreements were signed between National (a) whether the working Group set up Hyoloekclnc Power Corporation Ltd. on r;ontrol of blindness has recommended and MIs Swed Power of Sweden for con ... liberal import and Indigenous manufacttlre sultancy servIceS aDd import of specialised of Sight saving Drugs ami equipment on equipment for investigation of Dhauliganga priority basis; Hydroelectric Project in Uttar Prade!ib. Assistance of 7.65 million Swedish Kroocrs (b) if so. what extent the llberalisation would be prOVided by Swedish International of import of tbes~ i terns have been Development Authority for this purpose. suggested; and Power Shortage in Karoataka (c) what arc tbe steps being laken by Government to check the eye disease in the country 1 3;62, SHRI B.V. DESAI: SHRI V S. KRISHNA IYAR: THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE Will tbe MinISter of IRRIGATION AND DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI POWER be pleased to stale: YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) Yes, Sir. 121 CHAITRA 28, 19{)7 (SAKA) Written If. r- $W6rs 122 (b) The Working Group on Control of There bas beeD a significant rise in per- Blindness has recommended that the drugs formance of cataract operafions 'from that cannot be produced in India and are 5.5 lakhs in 1981·82 to 10·69 in 1983·84 In considered essential for saving sight should addition a scheme to prevent BIID~ness be allOIol"'e d to be imported duty free. In caused by Vitamin ~A' deficiency among .the recent pa.st when it was felt tbat there children througb oral administration of WolS inadequate availability of Pilocarpine Vitamin 'A' is in operation in al1 the Stales Eye drops u~ed for tho clinical treatment of and Union Territories. -Glaucoma. the Ministry or Chemicals and Fertilisers sPlgested to the Cbief Controller Memorandum on J.N.U. from M Ps. of Imporh ~nd Exports tbat tbe Pilocarpine Eye drops should be included in App 6. 3564. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Will List·3 (List of fiDlsbed prepar~tions., life the Minister of EDUCATION be plea,ed '0 saving drugs and anti-cancer drugs) in the state: Import PoHcy. Requests from organisations/ (a) wbether Government bave recently re- institutions for import of equipment are ceived any memorandum oo-Jawaharlal Nehru -considered OD merits and exemption from University from some Members of P.arha- customs duty recommended for equipments menr; ,con~idered essential for sigbt laving. (b) if so, the details of tbe demands (c) To check tbe eye diseases, the made tberein; and Government have launched the National programme for Control of Blindness since (c) reaction of the Goveroment about J 976 with the foHowing objectives :- each demand ? li, to provide immediate relief by THE MINISTER OF EDUCAT10;-..l extending eye carc services to far ,SHRI K.C. PANT) : (a) Yes, Sir. flung areas through Mobile Eye Camp approach. (b) The main demand made in the memorandum was that Prof. P.N Srivastava (Ji) to esta.blish permanent eye care ~hould be removed from the; Office of the. facilities at Community fPHC/ Vice-Chancellor. J awaharlal Nehru Univer- Taluk/District and State level. sity and that a VisltoClaJ enquiry should be instituted to reveal tbe ailments of tb~ Uni- The achievement regarding versity. development of infrastructure is given below:~ (C) In resp~ct of the specific points on which the Public Accounls Committee bad Setting up of Mobile IJnits 80 recommended funber enquiry, tbe UDlversity Strengtbening of PHCs 2000 has appointed a Committee headed by Mr. Justice A K. Basu of Calculta to conduct StreogtheniDg of Distt. 404 the enquiry. 1 his enquiry is in progre!lls_ Hospitals Since May, 1983, tbe JawaharJal Nehru University has been fuclioning. by aDd largC'~ UPlrad.tion of Depus. of smoothly. The Government does not, Ophthalmology of Medical 60 therefore. consider it necessary to institute Colleges a Yisitorlal enquiry ;n10 the functioning or the Universlty~ Establisbment of Regional 5 Institutes Ne'ft Courses by J.N.V. Setting up of Distl. Mobile Units 30 3-'65 SHRI C JANGA REDDY: W (b) names of sc!lools and cer.t res where introduce doubledeck coaches in the Central these courses are bdng intrc duced ? and Western Railways of Bombay City to Lcilitate tra vel by d ouble: the numher o f THE MINIS I ER OF EDlJCATJON commuters by every train keeping in view (SHRl K C. PANT :(a) and (b) Accord- the considerable growth in the number of ing to the informa tion furni!hed by the commUiers and as t here being no scope for J awaharlal , Nc:hru Un•ver,ity , the following widening the railway track on account of two programmes a rc prope sed to be Intro- residential buildings o o both sides o f the duced from the academic Session !985-86:- railway track; and (I) A 3-year Master of Computer (b) if not what steps Railway contem- Applications Programme in the plate to meet the growing demand of the !:'chool of Computer and Systems rail commuters in Bombay City. Sc1 ences. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN T HE 12) A 2-ycar M .Sc Programme in MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRJ Biotechnology to be jointly o ffered MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) There is hy the faculty of the School of no proposal for introducing double-decker Environmental Sciences and the coaches oo trains comprising Electric Mul- School of Life Science~ , as an tiple Units. However a limited numher of inter-disciplina ry programme. double decker coaches are already running on some of the other trains serving Preventing Water Logging ant! Floods in Bombay. Ghat:1l and Tamluk Sub- Division in West Bengal (b) Within the limited resources, the number of Electric Multiple Units trains 3566. ShRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- running on Central and Western Railways JEi::: : Will the Mm1ster of IRRIGATION in Bo mbay area has been increased during AI'· D POWER be pleased to state 1 the last one year. Introduction of more trains is dependent upon availability of mor~ (a) whether Tamluk a nd Ghatal Master Electric Multiple Units coaches of which P lan' fo r prc:ventmg w <:. ter-logging and there is acute shortage at present. floods in Ghatal sub-division and T . mluk s u b-division of M1dnapur district West Scnwn Ticket Fares for Suburban Railway Bengal have been incluced in the Seventh Travel Pian; t~n d 3568. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: t b) if not, wheth~z Government are Will the Mimster of RAJLWAYS be pleased coni cmplating to do so in view of the to sta te : imrortance of thest Bengal is not yet fi nalised. that the Centre sho uld r(commend to 1he States for adoption and suitable legislation Proposal to Introduce Double Det·k in concerned legtslatures; and Coaches in Central and Western Railways 1>f Bombay (b) if so, the reaction of Governrr:eot thereto ? 3567. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI Will the Minister of RAILWAYS b= pleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to state: MIN ISTRY O F RAJLWA'tS (SHRI MADHAVR AO SCIND!A) : (a) a nd (b) (a) whether there i ~ any proposa! Yes, Sir. Such a recommendation was made under consideration of the Railways to by the Rail Tariff Enquiry Cornmitee, 125 CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) fJ~rillen Aluwel'.'f 126 -which was examined in consultation with engineers (or the technological development the various other Ministries concerned, The of the country. SUlaestion was stroogly opposed by them on tbe around that it would put extra (d) to recommend the Hnes along whicb burd::a of suC"h transport costs to be borne the five lostilutes sbould be fUitber develoP'" by the employen whicb included State ed for advanced studiel and researcb and Central Governments as well as Public taking ioto account the developments tbat Sector Undertakings. Hence9 tbe suggestion have taken place or proj~cted at tbe other could not be ~cc=pted6 Institutes of T{"cbnology and the Indian lnstitute of Scien..:e, and Review of Working of India" Institutes of TecilBology and Opmiog of new liT. (c) to report on any olber aspects tbal are relevent to overall functioning or the 3569. SHRI PRATAP BHANU lnstitute". SHAMA: Will tbe Minis"" of EDUCATION be pleased to stale: Implementation of Liberalised Pcn5ion Rules of 1979 to Pensioners of all Ports (a) wbether Government propose to review the working of the Indian Institutes 3570. SHRI S M. BHATTAM: Will or Tecbnology in tbe near future; the Mini.ter of SHIPPING AND TRANS- PORT be pleased to state: (b) if so, detail. tbereof; and (a) wbetber it is a fact that tbe Supreme (e) wbetber Goveroment ba"e any plan Court delivered a judgement in favour 'Of to open new Indian Institutes of TecbnorOiY implementation of hberalised PeD5ioD Rules during the Seventh Plan period? of 1979 to tbe pensioners of all POlts; THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (b) If so, whetber any administrative (SHRI K.C. PANT): (a) and (b) In Instructions were issued to tbe various Port accordance with the provisions under Ibe Trust Authorities to implement the same; Institute. of Tecbnology Act, 1961, the and Pr~sjdent of Jadia. in his capacity al Visitor .,f tbe Ind;an Institutes of Tecbnology bas (C) if nct, the reaSODS therefor? appointed a Review Commitree_ The terms of reference of tbe Committee arc repro- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE duced in the attached statement. MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS- PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARli: (a) 10 (c) (c) No, Sir. It has been beld by tbe Supreme Comt of 1ndia in ils judgement dated 17 December.. Stat('ment 1982 in Writ Petitions No. 5939-41 of (a) and (b) Terms of re/era;ce of tllp 1980 that all Central Government Pensioners Rel'iewin.e- Committee for tile III dian governed by CCS (Pension) Rule. 1971 are Institutes of Technology entitled to pension witb effect (corn 1-4-l979 as computed under IibcraUsed (a) to review tbe present progress of pension formula irrespect1ve of :hc date of tbe Institute. of Tecbnology in fulfilment of their retirt'ment. Its broad objectives as a centre or advanced ~tudies aDd researcoh in science engineering The Port Trusts are s!atutory bodies and and lechnology. tbe Supreme (__ourl judgement of 17th (b) to examine bow far the Institutes December 1":182 JS not automatically appH~ have interacted with other technical insti· cable to their pensioners Tt~e matter bas lutes with particular reference to courses been cODsidered by fhe Government and it or study... programmes of research and faculty bas been decided to extend the principle development. enunciated in the judgement to tbose pensioners or Port Trusts wbose pcosioa. (e) to asSe •• tbe overall impact of tbe i. reckoned on the basis of derinition or Institule. on tbe traininl of bigh grade pay as applicable to Central Governmcot 127 W, itten AnSH t!rs APRIL 18, 1985 W,j'ten Answers employees and irrespective of th! dare of repair so far and as a result of wbkh there their retirement. Necessary instructions in IS a Jot of wastage of water due to breaches; this regard have been issued. (b) wbetber tbe State Government of Opening of 8n Institul. of I. I T. Staod.rd Bihar bas approached the Union Government in Bihar for financial help (or this scheme"; 3571. SHRI C.P. THAKUR: Will tbe (c) whetber a vast arra of land has been Mim.ter of EDUCATION be plealed to deprived of Sone water aftn the construe· slate: tion of Palna Protection BUDd; (a) whetber there jq not a single post· (d) whether a small triiJutory from graduate institute in Bihar sponsored by the Sone Canal will greatly belp these farms Union Government; and and a .cheme is also lying with the UnioD GovcrDm~nt in this regard; and (b) whether Government are cons.idering a proposal 10 stall an institutr- of tbe (e) if so, tbe step' being taken by the Standard of Indilliln Institute of Technology Government in tbis direction 7 for electronics, computer and bJO~lecbno .. logy? THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHit I B. SHANK-'RA- THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION NA ND) : (a) Tbe Sone low Level Canal (SHRI K. C. PANT) : (al No, Sir. Thore System is more than 100 years old, and arc seven such inetilutioDS needs modernisation for its efficient functioning. (b) No, Sir. (b) In consultation with the State. the Compulsory Imrnuniz9.tiob Against Polio scheme has been proposed for World Bank Whooping Cough and Tetanus assistance 3572 SHRI C P THAKUR: Will the (c) to (e) Palna Protection Bund was Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY constructed to protect the nood affectrd WELFARE be pleased 10 lIate: the .teps area from inundatioD. The State Government Goq:rnment propose Co take to provide ha!ll Dot reported if aoy area bas been compulsory immunlsatJon against POliO, deprived of Sane Canal water due to cons· whooplog cough. tetanus etc, to all children truction of thiS bund. The State Government jn tbe country? has also not sent any proposal for a distri- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE butary from Sone Canal to serve the said DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI area. YOGENDRA MAKWANA) During Shifting of N T. P. C.Offire from Palba the Seventh Five Year Plan, it is proposed to expand the: immunizalion aervices so as to reach a level of universal 3<74 SHRI C. P THAKUR: Will coverage by the year 1989.. 90 Vaccination Ihe MiDister of IRRIGATION AND services arc provided free of cost, but these POWER be ple.sed to state: are not compulsory. The educational and (a) wbetber it is a fact tbal head motivational effects will be intensified to office of tbe National Tbarmal Power ioform the public of the advantages of Corporation IS beiDa: shifted from PatDa to- immunization. Delbi; and Reps ir of Sone Cabal (b) if so, wbetber it .. ill be a great 3573. SHRI C P. THAKUR: Will blow to economic developm~nl of the tbe Minister of IRRIGATION AND State? POWER be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE {a) whether il is a (act that Sone Canal DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI IS more than 50 yean old without any ARUN NEHRU) (a) and (b) The bead 129 Wrilte-n 1nswer.s CHAITRA 28. 1907 • (SAKA) Written Answers 130 ofrice of Natianal Tbermal Power Corpora- (b) The deatbs were due to poison ns tion is in New Delhi. There is no proposal as a result of inhalatlOn or irresplrable to sq,lft the regional orfice of National pies Icsulting 10 hlSlotOXIC anoxial Thelmal Power Corporation from Patna to Hypoxia. Delhi. Tests ./I-bout long term Effeelli on People Alrotmeot of Printing Paper t<> Strles of Bhopal due to Gas Tragedy 3575. SHRI SURESH KUa.UP: Will 3577. SHRI SUReSH KURUP : WJIl Ipe Minister"of EDUCATION be pleased the MInister of HEALTH AND FAMILY to state: .. WELFARE be pleased to state Ihe results (a) the quota of paper allotment to obtained till now regardi.ng test conduc~ed vatJOUI State! ~G\)VerDments for printing 'ext to ascertain delayed and IClog tcrm effects , books; on people affected by gas tragedy 1 (b) whether tbe quota of Kerala has THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB already been sanctioned; and DEPARTMENT OF < HJlAL1.:H (S";RI YOGENDRA MAK.WANA): AccordIng (b) if not, the reasons therefor? to the information received from the Government of Madhya Pradesh~ about 10 THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION per' cent of tbe affected populalion continues (SHRI K. C. PANT) : (a) For 1985-86 the 10 suffcT4from respiratory problems, . Eye allotmen1 of paper for the first quartet' i e. problt-ms bave mostly been cured. There Aprd-June' 85 has become due. For this is DO ca-sc of blindness, some casos have quarter an allotment of 17099 MT of white partial impairment of vision dU~.to prevIOus printing concessional paper to States has background of eye. troubles No increased been made~ amongst others, for school text incidence of abortions, stiJJ pirtbs, foetal Books. abnormalities, low birth weight of new born inlants bas been reported. r (b) Yes, Sir. Amount utilised for Programmes of tb) Does not arise. Education Clinical findings about People affected 3\78. SHRI SURESH KURUP : Will by Bhopal Gas Tragedy the Minister of EDUCATION be pleased 10 state the amount utililcd for tbe ptb- 3576. SHRI SURESH KL'RUP: Will grammel of education ror Scheduled Caltes the MinIster of HEALTH AND FAMILY and Scheduled Trible. and otber backward WELFARE be pleased to ~tate : olasscs ID the year 1984·851 (a) what arc the majQc chnical findings THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION obtained about tbe people affected by tbo (SHRI K C. PANT) : A statement indi- Bhopal gas tragedy; .nd cating the grants released to Slate Governm~nt8 of dUring 1984·85 in respect of (b) what are the prinCipal cases of certain priority sectors Irke Non·Pormal deatb? Education. Adult Education and Scholanbips, largely cpvermg Scheduled Castes, Scheduled THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Tribes and othel backward classes is DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI attached. Priority is given to tbe needs of· YOGENDRA MAi Stat...... Central/eM'rally Sponsored Schemes in Non Pormal E,lucation, Adult Education mId Scholarships Sl. Nsme of the sclteme Amount released Remarks No. (R ••) • 1. NDD·Pornnl Bducation 9.27 crores The State Governments fat children of 9-14 have been directed to aae'lroup ensure at least 25% of enrolment from Scbeduled C.stes and 20% from Scheduled Tribes. 2. Rural .Functional 6.28 crates Literacy Project uoder Special Componcot PI... for Scheduled Castes and 3.48 erorea under Tribal Sub·PI"" 3. Asadlancc to 3.47 Crore. Vohmtary I, The State Governments,' Ageaeies Agencies have been I directed to ensure at 4. Shtama 0.51 crores ~ loasl 30% enrolment Vld,.peet~ I from Scbeduled Caste. \ and 15% from Scbe· I duled Tribes I ,. Post.Liter"", 1.45 crores ) and follow·up 41. National 1.10 Crore. Out of '30.000 SCbola.... bips at Scboianhips about Secondary sialle 6,5000 Scholarship, for talented earmarked for children from Scbeduled Caste. and Iural areas 1.500 Scholarsbips for Scheduled Tribes. LoaD frOID laten.tional FiDlUlcial THB MINIST£R OF RAILWAYS Agen,,;dI (SHRI BANSI LAL): As of present. there are DO specific proposals for raising commer... 3579. SHRI DIGVIJA Y SINGH: Will cial loans to meet the fund requirement. Ibe Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to of thc Railways. Allocations of resources state wbetber Railways propose to rai.e to tbe Railwa} s are made througb .the loanl from international financ1al a,encics Aooual Plaos aod Annual Budsch. in cale shortfall io. bud.ctary allocatioo·is tbe cause of limited production of ,Foreign loant and credits as secured fot ..agons ? tbe Railw"y Sector by the Goveroment of . 133 CHAITRA 28,1"" (SAKA) 134 India, Ministry of Finance. do not aufo- overbridge in Nagpur (Maharasbtra) .... roatically allow additional rupee resource. beld .... bout one year back: to tbe Railways as all allocations are rea!'- Jated aa per PldoniDg Commission's el1ot- (b) if 10, wbetber it is also a ract tbat the IDeDts from time to time. former Minister of Railway. at Ihal lime a ..ured tbe completion of tbe bridge withiD Setting Up or • Rall'!'.y Hospital in one year; T.mluk R.II.... , Stallon (c) if 10, wbetber the work on tbat 3580. SHR. SATYAOOPAL MISRA I bridg" bas aince started; Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to Slate: (d) if not, tbe reasons for not yei starti... the work; and (al wbetber tbi. Ministry has taken allY decision to set up a 50 bed RailMlY (0) wbether a specific target date would Hospilal witb .Blood Bank in tbe Tamluk be fixed for its completion? Railway Station of the Haldia-Panskure section on Ibe South Eastern Railway; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (a) whether it i. a faet that resident (c} whetber experts bave expressed the "doctorlt and interns of Lady Hardina. view that the disease will oootinue to spread; Medi.~.11 Collete boycotted th~ convocation and on 22 March, 1985 and went on a !7-hours ~iabting strike. Cd) wbat furtber efforts bave been or are beiDa made to combat tbe dis iii) Arrangements for adequate supply of 15&3. SHRI R"-M B>.H ... DUR SINGH: drugs have been made_ All tbe hospitals Will 'he MlDister of HEALTH AND and dispensaries have stocked suffICient FA\(ILY WELF ... !tB be pleased to refer quantities of the required vii) Tbe India Council of Medical Research (a) the aDDual requirement of concrete bas initiated studi~s on carriers and sieepe.rs for Indian RaHway.; th~ir management in order to provide . information on tbe epidemiology of the disease for better control. (b) the actual number of sl ••J"'!l"s procured during 1982-83, 1983-84 and 1984·85; viii) It bal been decided to vaccinate tbe indealified higb·risk arouads. 1.50 lath doses, of vaccioe imported tbrough (e) the numb" of ,..proved producers tbe WHO have already heen received. and factories in India producing sucb Another 2.50 lakb doses are on tbeir concrete slecpc;rs and making regular way. supplies to Railways with their inotalJed Capacity; and ix) The Notional Institute of Communi. cable Diseases it looking into tbe .' epidemiological aspects of' the disease. (d) tbe actual Dumber of sleepers supplied to Railways by eacb sucb producer/ f""tory during tbe years 1982-83, 198384 Provision of Unreserved Coaches in and 1984·85 ? . Mall and Expreas Trains . THe MINISTeR OF STATE IN THE . 3584. SHRI S. M. GURAODl: Will MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI- tbe Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to M .... OHAVRAO SCINDJA): (a) The state: requirement ~r concrete sleepers at pr\:!~(nt is around 15 latbs but shan incr~a5e to (a) whetber il is a fact tbat most of 25 lakb. by the end of 7tb Pian. tbeMail and Express traiDS do not have unreserved coaches; (b) ( i ) 1982·83 5.92 lakbs. (b). if so. tbe names of such Mail and ( ii) J3xpress trains; and 1983·84 10.34 lakbs. (iii) 1984·85 11.50 I.lebs_ (c) the reasons for Dot providing 1985) unreserved coacbes in these trains? (up to Feb .. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) Tbere are 29 units on wbicb MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS' (SHRI orders bave been placed for manufacture MADHAVRAO SCINDlA): (a) No; Sir. of concrete sleepers comprising of 22 estab... lish~d units and 7 units under development (b) aod (c) Do not .rise. besides two departmental units. Out of the 22 e~tablisbed units, 2 units (Kosikalan arid Bharatpur) are sick and pre~ently Requirement of Concrete Sleepers , dosed. Installed capacity of various units. is indicated in the enclosed statement.· 3585. SHRI L. ADAIKALARAJ : Wiil tbe Minister of RAIL WA YS be pleased [0' slale : (dj A statement i. attacbed. .140 . JJ9 Written AIt.nvers APRIL 18, InS WrlttM A"._J Statement Rly Firm Works SlalidD Installed 1982·83 1983·84 1964-85 Capacityl (Upto annum. Feb.) 2 3 4 S 6 7 C I. Iudiaa flume Pipe Co. Ltd. Karan SOOOO 79815 81489 89353 2. Prestress India Pvl. Ltd. Warora SOOOO 26633 51514 60686 3. KaPl'econ Sleeper WoEk. Dulibori ~OOO 22116 41334 S927G 4. Bosineen Prestressed BanDlorc SOOOO 16793 38721 39576 Structures Pvt. Ltd. 5. Siresscrele Pvt. Ltd. B~dni SOOOO 11310 6. DBMCO Sleepers Pvl. Ltd. *Nandlaqn 50000 23S0 E 7. Day. BOSII.Wolko (PI Ltd. Gaya SOOOO 31520 54139 64198 8. Daya BoSS. Works (Sleepers) Gaya 50000 23584 54372 67821 Pvt. Ltd. 9. P.est".. UdyoS (India) Clwla 50000 808 25596 38370 Pvt. LId. Ambona 10. Tantia Concrete Pvt. Ltd. Paonagarb 50000 4044 21652 36690 II. Tankrete India Pvt. Ltd. *Rampurhat 50000 5336 12. Sbakti Iron &. St..,1 Ltd. • Jagdisbpur 50000 N 13. Concrele Sleeper Plant Subedar' 240(00 119473 I 582bO 144595 N. R.ilway. lIanj. 14. Concrete Slee~r Plant Kbalis· 50000 24580 63725 754n "N. Railway. pur 15. Jay Prestressed Products Kosikalan 50000 22734 13821 16. Hindustan Prefab Ltd. Jangpura 100000 21~74 54742 59755 S 17. C"",crcte Producu "" Ambaltur 50000 47224 69900 58972 Conll. Co. 18. KOllukulam Ettaineers ·Bommidi 50000 7H3 Pvt. Ltd. 19. Concrete Products *Tiruvalam 5COOO & Consl. Co. SC20. Mysore Structurals Ltd. Hafeezpel 50000 54675 64787 4S89S 21. The Concrete Prod ucts & Kanda palli ~OOCO 23984 39124 46628 Const. Co. 21. Prestr_ India Pvt. Ltd. ·Timnancbatla 50000 23. Kapreeon Sleeper Works *Mantralaya 5COOO SE24. Orissa Concrete Products Januauda SOOOO ~1776 30832 363J30 141 Writ~n A.nswer's CHAITRA 28,1907 (S.ucA) Written Answers 142 ----- 2 3 4 5 6 7 25. uko Tr""k Sleeper. P. Ltd. Kalumna 50000 14832 32035 44651 26. Orl... Concrete d: Allied &aipur SOOOO 7980 993& ladultrl.. p. Ltd. 27. Vijay Prestressed Products ·Pandurti ~OOOO Pvt. 'Ud. W28. Usba Prestressed Sleeper Bbaralpur SOOOO 12980 2600 Udy.. 29. S. SubramaayaJn d! Co· Kbanalia 5000!l 12056 39108 53537 30. Maaibhal Bros. (Sleeper.. ) Kbarsalia 50000 13407 65313 733f9 31. Vaman Prestressed Pro· Panvel 50000 8043 15870 11937 d"ch Ltd. TOTAL 591951 1034786 IIS01l8 ·Unit. under development. Thoubal Multipurpose Projeella MaDlpur (c) Tbe project eovi..... creatron '-or 26 5 thousand hectaru of irrigation pot eli- 3586. PROF. KAMSON MEIJIN· tial, watcr supply to Impbal To_ at 4.5 LUNG: Will tbe Mini,ter of IRRIGATION crore litres per day aod butanation of. AND POWER be pleased to state: hydel po... r ynit of 7.S MW capacity. (d) Tbe project i. proposed and fuoded (a) tbe estimated cost of Thoubal by Iho Slate Government of Manipou. Multipurpose Project of Maaipur; (b) tbe progress thade so far; {Translation] (c) its potentiality in respect of power. Rail Line from Laberia S8ni t. water supply and irrigatioa; aDd btobeswantbaa (d) wbetber tbe said project is spon_ :t581. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: W,ll the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased sored by tbe Centre or tbe State? to slate: THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION (a) whetber it is a fact that not even AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA- a single new raiJ line bat: been constructed in NAl'ID) : (a) The letest estimated cost of North Bihar sinc~ Jodepence; the Project is Iud icated to be R •. 80.00 crores~ (b) if so, the realOo" tberefor; (b) Construction of Right and Left abutments of the barrase and 'protection (c) wbether the official policy is to wocto both upstream and downstream of the construct rail Jines in backward areal to ciabt abutment of the barrage .are in pro· remove regional inlbalance; sre... Left Main Canal in the Initial reach IIpto 2 kms. is in progres.. Levelling of (d) wbelher the people of tbe area arc hill .purs alollS both left and right main demaoding tbe constructIon of a rail line amals in different reaches is al.o io pro- from Laheria Sarai Co Kushcswatstban via &reI1• Jogiwara Modhuball, Baberi and SinaJHa ; 143 Wrirten A"IW~rs APRIL 18, 1985 144 (0) whether. keeping in view the fact THE MINISTER OF STlI.TE OF THE that people of the area bave to travel a d.s- MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS- lance of 40 to 100 km. to catch the trains, PORT (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI): (a) Ye., Government wiJl iniuate action immediately for construction of .s~id rail line; and Sir. (b) According to the Revised Budget (f) if not, tbe reaSOns therefor? Estimates 1984.85, tho Corporation bas pro- jected a Working Loss of Rs. 61.08 croreso. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI The compilation DC the actual figures will, MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) No, S.r. however. take some mOre time. '('1:» Does not arise. (0) Rs. 17.00 erores (Provisional) (upta February, 1985). (c) Government's policy is to construct new rhfl lines which are project oriented. (d) and (eJ In tbe pasi, a rew compla· wilJ serve as mi~sing link, 2!Ie required on ints of this nature were received. There strategic considel8,joD or as developmental are standing instructions that pnvate bus lines to estal~]}sh new growth centres. owners are not allowed to carry any ODe without ticket On tbeir buses under DTC (d) Yes, Sir. operation. ' They are also required [0 stop the buses at alJ the bus stops. In case of (e) and In view of severe £onstraint (f) any violations, action is taken against tbe- of resources a.nd heavy commitment! on bus owner in terms of the Agreement whicb hand. there is no propolal to initiate action provides for peoaJities, such as, imposiUon for constluction of tbis rail hnc. of finel' termination of the se,VICCS of the driver, as well as suspension aDd cancel1a_ [English} [iOll of the conuact. Le.. Incurred by DTC and Amount Loss of Power Geoerllotit)o due to paid 8S Hire-Charges to Private Operators during 1984· 85 DefectJve Coal 3589. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN: 3588. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PASWAN : Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND Will the MlDister of IRRIGATION AND TRANSPORT be pleased to stale: POWER be pleased to state: ReJI;trictions on Practice of Hom~Jlathy (b) the '('\al amoum earmarked for on Charitable Basis after Oflice this purpose in the Sixtb flan peJ 'od ; Hours by Government Servants (c) what are the original estimates for 3590. SHRI RAM BHAG ... T PASWAN: these prcjecis and what ace tbey expc:cted to Wi) the Minister of HEALTH AND co'St now; and FAMIL Y WELFARE be pleased to state: (d) Ihe stage al which the txecution of (a) whether· permisdon to practice the above projects stand together with the bO"D.oeo~athy\ on charitahle bac;is beyond Dmount so far spent? offic" hOllr~ heing denied [0 otherwis.e eligi. THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION hie Central Government servant~ stationed AND POWER (SHRJ B. SH>l.NKARA- at Deihl on the ground that they are regis" NAND): (a) The names of tnultipurpo,e. tered in some other States and not in Delhi; major and medium irrigation and power projects under examination are given in (b) if so. the reasons therefor: and enclosed Statemenls... J and II respectively. (c) wbether Government propose to (b) The outlay approved by the Plann_ remove this restriction in the larger interest ing Commis5.ioD for major and medium ;ui.. of making avaHabJe bomoeopatbic treatment galion projects in Si ..tb Plan wao Rs. 791.29- to needy and poor and allowing the freedom Crores and that for hydto power p.rojects to those who wish to serve? wa5 about Rs. 287 ClOres. 'THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) and (d) Tbe required information in DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI respect of multipurpose major and medium YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) to (c) irrigation and power proj,. cts under execu- Practice of homoeopathy is governed by the tion i, given in Statements HI and IV -provisions of The Homoeopafhy Cl:"ntral enclosed Council Act, 1973 Anyone desirous of pract~cing homoeopatby outside the State of Statement-I his Registration can do so if his name is ----_ - --~-- borne on part II of the Central Register of Sl No Name of Project Homoeop3.thy and that prior approval of the State where be intends to practice is availab1,e, MAJOR PROJECTS Subject to tbese statutory provisions and A. New Projects: the;:: condition that sucb practice shaH not adversely affect official work, oermission I. Telugu Ganga Project I Multi- may be granted to eligible Central Govern. . purpose) ment employees stationed at Delhi to "rae- tke homoeopathy on charitable basis outside 2. Srisailam Left Baok Canal office bours. 3. (A) Polavaram (Dam & Left Canal) (Multi.Purpose) Irrigation and Pown Scbemes of Andhra Prade,b (B) Polavaram (Rigbt Main CaDal) 4. Modernisation of Krishna Delta 3591 SHRI S,M. BHATTAM: Will System. the Mini5ler of IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to state : 5. ~loderDisation of Goda1;'ari Delta System. (a) the name and number of the major, medium and mu1lipurpose (a) irrigaljon and 6. :Velero (Multl'purpose), [b) at power projects under considtration 7 Jurala the Ceone level and under execution in Andbra Pradesh; 8. Vamsadbara Stage.II 1-4'1 Writ flm Answers APRIL 18.19S5 Written Answers 141 9. Sioaur (Muiti-purpol.) Sta~t-n B. Revised E!t{males: 51. No. Name of tbe Project I. Sritamsagar Project Stace-l I: MvJli:purpose projects 2. Sir Arthur Cotton Barra&e Project (Godavari !Jarraae Project) I. Pol.v..... m 3. N .....juna Sapr Projact. 11. _l!ajor/Medillln Hydro Pro;ects: 4. Tunsabbadra Project H.L.C· 2. Nagarjunasagar R.B. Canal Stage-II Extension. n. MEDIUM PROJECTS l 3. Stisailam L.B.P.H. fFealibihty Report). A. New Projec/~: 4. Jalaput I. Peddavaau 5. Priyadarsbini Jurala. 2. Cbelmclavallu Project 3. Kaulasoala Project Ill. Mini/Small H;'dei Schellles S. Buggavanka. 6. Kakatiya Canal (Maniar IDrall) (Smail). B. Revised Estimates: I. Talipcru Project 7. Six MiDi. Hydel Schem.. 00 J( akatiya Canal on Distributary 8J 2. Meddigedda Project at different JOcatiODS. Sfalemeot·IJI (Rs. crore.) SI. Name .r Scheme Estimated Cost kikely No. Original Latest expenditure 1111 end of Sixth Plao 2 3 • 4 5 A. PRE SIXTH PLAN SCHEMES : 1 Major Schemes: I. Nagarjllnasagar 91.1Z 849.63 555.07 2. Stiramoagar St. I 40.10 1007.00 396.62 3. Godavari Barrage 26.59 86.01 70.17 4. Vam.adhara St. I &: St. II 83.31 205.50 34.81 S. TUDlabhacfra Project HLC SI; II 11.95 111.70 48.E6 6. Som.oila Sl. I &: St. II 17.20 147.00 62.83 7. Improvement to' Nizamsagar 15.98 15.32 8. Sinlur Proj.~t 42.34 57.34 26.32 9. Samaltota Summar Storage Reservoir 1.36 1.36 1.43 149 Written Answers CHAITRA 28. 1907 (SAKA) Written Anslfer.s lSi) ._------2 3 4 5 11. JVediunJ ScheffHs: 1. V<>tigcdda 0.77 2.82 2:64 2. Thandava Reservoir 1.99 13.34 8.15 3. Kanupur Canal 0.70 12.00 6.91 4· Garu'ljp~lam Canal 0.97 5.21 S.20 5. Pulivendala Canal 2.98 18.43 7.49 6. Gajuladinna 0.96 9.00 8.39 7. Guotur Caoal 0.95 3.12 2.72 8. Swarna 0.29 S.50 3.33 9. Ukacbaltivagu 0.43 2.56 2.02 10. Raiwada 8 ..88 111.00 10.08 1), Konam 1.48 3.30 .3.05 12. Vengllarya Sagaram 8.00 17.'0 7.36 13 M~Jluruv88u 1.52 2,90 2.71 14. Vottivagu S.40 20.00 5.06 15. Mukkamamidi 0.48 1.45 I.B 16. Boggulavagu 1.36 3.42 3.O!t 17. ,!edderu St. I 1.50 850 6.40 18. Vengalaraya L.I. Scbeme 2.00 4.00 3.82 19. Krishnapuram 2.50 4.37 2.68 20. Jbaojbavalbi 15.51 20.16 8.36 21. Peddanklam 1.05 1.81 1.60 22. Maduvalasa 7.15 22.00 6.20 23. Chayyeru ... 6.78 19.00 6.65 24. Yerrakalva 10.40 23.50 8.59 25' Pcddavagu 3.7S 6.50 5.78 26. Taliperu 9.06 27.00 12.77 27. Guodalavagu 1.16 6.50 2.98 28. Satnala 3.21 10.50 7.0S 29. JalJaru 2.19 4.29 3.06 30. Maddiped& 1.55 3.26 2.5~ B.. NEW SCHEMES OF' SIXTH PLAN. 1. MajfJr Schemes. 1. Yelleru Reservoir 55.00 1:8.53 46.13 151 Writf." A".w41rl APRIL 18, 1985 Wnllen Ans)!. ~rI IS2 2 3 4 ~---'-----,-- 2. Po"layaram 88417 011 3. Saiseilam RBC ~71 00 11.69 4. Jurala 115.00 IS.CO S. Madras Water Supply (Telegu Ganga) 63700 6842 11. .lWetiium Scheme.s : 1. Andhra Reservoir 7.83 025 2. Peddaru Reservoir 2.24 0.05 3. BUl,avanka Reservoir 486 010 4. Maddelaru Reservoir 760 0.10 5. Anieut across Maniba 300 002 6. RMervoir across Paleimvagu 10 ';S 0.05 7. Kaul.sanala h.99 O.CS 8, Babuda Reurvaic 11.70 O~O:! 9. Buradkalva Restrvoir 46.00 O.O~ 10. P::ddavagu near Ada village 26. '2 0,11 11. Pcddavagu near Dasanpur 8.00 0.10 12. Mudakaolavagu 17.50 0.05 n. Cbalamalava8u 366 010 14. Stleru Diversion 12 CO 0,04 15. Budamaru L,l Scheme 7.00 0,05 16. Upper Penn~r NA. O.OS 17. Tbammllaru Reservoir 8.27 827 777 18. Varadarajaaswamygudi 6,50 10.5a 0.43 NOTE: N A.-jndlcat-es 'Not Avadable~ Slaleme.t·IV (Rl. in CrOIet;) SI. No. Name of Scheme OrIginal Latest estimated Likely expcntliture Cost cost upto end of VI Plan -----~- --~------2 4 -_._--_ 1. Srisailarn Sta,-e-II 39'38 5800 43.57 2. Nagarjunasagar Pumped 55.78 75.28 66.13 Storage Scheme·JI 3. Nagarjunasaglr LBC 34.00 46.41 2.45 4, A.P. P..ower HOll"-e at 17.17 31 .5 1713 Bahmda S. Pochampad 13.49 25.21 20 ,. Penp. Abobilam 12.47 21 56 1 50 7. Upper SHeru Ii 98 49.8t 5.97 153 Written Answers CHAlTRA 28,1907 (SAKA) rVritten Answers 154 ApPoiatmeat of Cheder. Volunteers (e) ..ben the plan for moderni.inll power plants ik proposed to be undertak.en; 3,92. SHRI ZAINAL A BEDIN : and Will the Mini.ter of RAILWAYS be pleased to state : (f) tbe maio features of the plan? THE MINISTER OF SrATE IN THE (al Ihe . number of cbecker·volunteer. DEPARfMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN applliorrd ill different RaHways during the NEHRU) : (al to (f) The Central Electricity years 1983.nd 1984, State·wis. ; Authority h.s identllicd 36 thermal slatinas in the country for comprehensive reDovatioD (b) wbether it i. a fact tbat many of tbe and modernisation So that power gCDcration checker_volunteers have recently been made from existing capacjty cap be increased~ It to discontinue their services; is estimated that tbe core .ector of the scheme, whicb is directly related to Increased (c) if 50, tbe details thettor and the generaHoD .. will COSl about .. R •. 500 crore •• reasons of such discontinuation of service" ; Implement.lion of the scbeme has been tabu and up recently and it is not practicable to full,. aSSess the efiect of cost escalation at this (d) whctcr Goveroment propose to reap- stalle. point them 1 Allocation for Hydel Generation THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE • MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI 3594. SHRI B.V. DESAI: MADHA VRAO SCINDIA): (a) State-wile figure. rea,arding engagement of volunteers SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: for ticket checking arc Dot maintained. Will the Minister of I'{RIGATION AND POWER be pleased to slate: (b) to (d) Tbe volunteers are neither tempora,y nor permanent employees of the (a) whether it is a fact tbat despite Railways and bence, dj<;:c~tii1UatiOD of their repeated commitment to increase bydcl services daci not arise. The volunteers generation the Planning Commission has drawn feom various sources are engaged as refused to allocate any money for ne.. byde! and wh!n required to strengthen and a'l.s,st starts in 1985-116 ; the ticket cbeckiog parties, (b) whether PlanniDS Commissioa has conveyed to the Power department that Modemisatio~ of Power Plants money would be prOVided for the on·gOing projects oDly ; 3593, SHRI B.V. DESAI: Will the Minister of. IRRIGATION AND POWER (c) whether the power department bad be pleased to state: urged the commission that resuHaDr to Ihis no m~jor hydet capacity would come 10 tbe (a) whether it is a fact .bat Rs. SOO ClOre Dear fllture; "ower plant moderaisation and rebabiJilatJOI) plan bas: fallen prey to cost -escal..ltions even !d \ whether tbe department bad sousbt before: taking orf the ground; Rs. 100 crares for iOiria[~ng werk on four major hydei projects during 1985.. 86 ; (b) it' SO~ whether tbe programme is DOW expc_cted to cost around Rs. 700 cro\es ; (e) to what extent the PlanniDg Com- m,'5SrOD has accepted for providing funds to (c) If so, whether tbe main reason for these planes; and the cost escalation is steep rlee in tbe equip- ment costs; (f) ,..he.her tbe Commission bas been urged to provide ~ufrJciertt funds so tbat tbe (d) what are tho 9.oer maiD reasons for power shortage in the country could be tbe same: rcmovedl )55 Written Answers APRIL IS, 1985 Written Answers 156 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS lSHRr NEHRU): (a) to (e) The Approacb Docu- MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (al No, Sir. ment to tbe Seventb Five Ye'r Plan envisages areater emphasis 00 hyuro projects. (b) Does nol arise. The Cenlral Sector Power PllIn proposals (c) Tbere baa been no sucb demand. for 1985·86 envisaging provisions for on- going an.:! certain new bydro projects, bave Rail Une' belween Cndd..... r alld Rayadurg been considered in tbe Planning Commission. Witbin the availa~ resources. priority is 3597. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA being accorded 10 Ibe implementation of REDDY: Will tbe Minister of RAILWAYS approved and on-projects to ensure their be pleased 10 slate : timely completion. (a) wbether Go".,rnmenl are conSidering (fl Yes, Si... Ibe propo.al for undertaking a survey for Scheme Requlrill8 Fresb Doctors to laying a new rail line between Cuddapar Sene In Primary Heallb Centres and Rayadurs via KadiD, Hind"ur, Madakasira. and Kalyandurg ; and 3595. SHRI N.V. RATNAM: Willtbe Hinister of HE-'lL' H AND FAMILY (bl if 80, bow long will il take to WELFARE be I!lcased to state: complete, the suney work of the said rail line? THE MINISTER OF STATE' IN THE 3598, SHRI PRIYA RAJAN DAS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI MUNSI : Will Ihe Minister of IRRIGATION YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) No, S'r. AND POWER b. pleased 10 slate: (b) Does nol arise, (a) wbetber West Ben sal Government bave mAde any propolal to take power ~iag of New Rail .... y Station al from tbe Cbukba Proj~t; and Balasamndram (b) if so, tbe details thereof? <596. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE REDDY, Will tbeMiDister of RAILWAYS DEPllcRTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN be pleased to state: NEHRU) : (a) and (b) Allocalion of about 29 % of power from Cbuk"a Hydel Project (a) whetber Government are considering has. inter alia. been made to West to open a new Railway Station at '8alala- Bengal in con8ullation with the Sfate mudram' between Tam.kallu and Mulacala- Government. cberuvu Railway Stations in Kadin Taluk of Aoantapur district in Andbra Pradesh ; Fleet SlreDg!b ud TorDover of.Sbipplng Corporation of India Ib) jf so, Ibe time by whicb it is likely to be opened ; 3.599. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNS) : Will tbe Minister of SHIPPING (e) if not, Ib.e reaSons tberefor ? AND TRANSpuRT be pltased 10 stat. : IS7 Writtnl 41UWtJr. CHAITRA 28, 19~7 (SAKA) 158 (a) the total fleet strength of ShippiaS (c) whether there i,1 any proposal to Corporation of Jndia alld it. turnover purchase more .hips ? durins the yean 1982·83, 1983·84 alld 1984-85. yearwise separately; THE MINISTI!R OF STATE OF THE (h) whetber any efforts bave been made MINISTRY OF SHIPPING ~ND TAANS. to inCrease tbe tlrlet of loods traffic during PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : 1982·8] 1983-84 1984·85 Number of vcssels 143 142 ISS GaT (Lakhl, 30.06 29.86 33.25 DWT (Latbs ) 50.01 49.66 55.06 Turnover (operating earnings) 574.93 512,98 595.00 < a.. in crores ) < eotimated ) (b) and (c) Yes, Sir. In addition to lasl year 216 Sanskrit institotions in Wast acquiring more SbIPS, empbasis has been Bongal ....,r. supported Similarly in.titllti_ placed on acqujring .pccialil.d ships '0 in the 'Eastern and otber parts of tb. eountry cater to national requiremenll of trade. were also assisted. Graot·ia.aid aOlOqillio& to RI.3,56,083/- was relealed to Saolllltit Steps to Encourage Urdu and Sanskrit institutions in West a ....al 10 enable Ihem to meet tbe ex;>cnditure on payment of salaries 3600. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS of teachers and scholarshipS to Sludents, MUNSI : Will the Minister ofBDUCATION scholars. Sanstrit 'Sahitya Pariahad Patrika" be pleased to state : tbe steps Government and 4JahnavJ' in Calcutta arc also receivin. propose to t ..k. to .nsure that Urdu and gralll-in·aid from tbi. Ministry for populari.... Sanskrit flourish throughout the country. ing Sansleri.. AboutlSO Sanltrit sludellts in "s.pecially in West Benpl and other partl of !itu1yiDI higher secondary classea were given Eastern ·India 1 scbolarsbip. durins the last year. More tban 200 old Saoslerit Pandits in indigent THII MINISTBR OF EDUCATION c\rcum,tallccs of West Bcnga' received finaa- (SHRI' K.C. PANT): The Ministry of cial assistance durin& tbe lut year.. ReceotJy Education has beeD implementiD.I a Dumber an all-India Sanskrit elocution contest and of programmes for tbe promotion of Hiodi, all·lnd;a Vadic Convention were orallniacd, Urdu and other modern Indian languages, by tbe Ministry on tbe premiles of -Govern- classical laolluages and I!nglish. m.nt Sanskrit College. Calcutta. Similarly, almost aU eastern States of Iodia includin. PrOI1}Ofion 0/ SO!lskrit Bihar, Oris'5a .. Maolpur, MeghaJaya. eiC. '2. A number of schemes for the prom,,- a:-e bei ng benefitted by various schemes doa of Sanskrit which are in operation are whicb have been launched. proposed to be cootinued and strengtb.ened. The main schcmrs relate to tbe preservation 4. In tbe Sevo!nth Plan grealer emphasis of Saoskritic traditioD.. modernisation of will be &!ve.ll to io·service training or COIlleDt aod methodolngy of teach ins Sanskrit teachers. survey. editing and publrcation or and popularisatioll of its study. rare Sansk.rit maDUsCripts, preservation of oral Vedic traditiou and use of modem 3. W';t Bengal alld other parts of communication techoolo&y for tbe tcacbioll Ealtern India al.e also covered. under the aDd ~anling of the laollUBge. C.Qtral and above schemes whi~h belp promoUan and Slate endowm.enls for preservinl Vedic tradi- development of Sanlkc;l. For instaDce, tion are proposed to be ••t uP. "RIIIIse 15~ JV,Ufen AIf.m:eN APRIL 18, 1985 Written A.nliw~rs 160 endowments arc ~pected to assist Vedic in Calcutta and four such centres have been !itt scholars, alJdio and video tape oral tradition up in Bihar, A book entitled "~.n8.1 Main and support the effort at inter ...di::lciplinary Urdu" is likely to he published shortly. research. Two of the Kendriya Sanskri, Vidyapeethas at Tirupati and Dc:::thi arc 8. For tbe Seventh Plan SOme new proposed t.o be given the status of institution thrusts have been proposed, These include deemed to -be University. greater emphasis on jnservlcc trainlDg of teachers. utiJisatioo and learning of modern Prol'tJotiOIl of Urdu communication tecbJ;iotogy, Particularly radio and televison, for teaching of Urdu 5. Tile Government of India have set up ~nd trainiDg of teachers~ Organisat~on of Ih~ Tarraqi-e-Urdu Board to advise it on cllrrespondeLcc courses and publication of programmes to be taken us for implerncnta- a balf·.. yearly research journal are also PIO" tiOD 1 particularly for developing Urdu as a posed to be undertaken by the Bureau for veblcle of contemporary tbou&ht. In Promotion of Urdu Experimenta1 work for pursuance of the recommendations of the standardisati~n of Urdu characters with the Gujaral Committee wtucb was constituted in intention of ascertaining whether printing in J972 and wbich reported in 1975, a Urdu can be computtrised is also proposed Standing CommIttee has been set up to to be laken UP. Sucb a development wQuld watch the implementation of various pro- faciHtete a much larger pub1icatioll activity grammes initiated for the promotion of in Urdu. Creative authors and voluntary Urdu. The Bureau for tbe Promotion of organisations will be entrusted with prepara.. Urdu, set up in 1971 as a sub-ordioate office ti(.)o and publication of Urdu Hteraturc. It of the Ministry, bas also heen strengtbened. also proposed to start classes in Urdu is typewriting and stenography. 6. The programmes initiated in the Sixth Five Year Plan are proposed to be continued Sanjay Sagar Irligation Fraject with enhanced outlays. ·These scbemes will iodude production of academic literature for '601. SHRI PRATAP BHAoNU SHARMA: stude-Dts, compilation of technical [ermIDO· Will tbe Minister of IRRIGATION AND )ogy~ preparation and publication of English POWER be pleased to state: Urdu. Urdu·Eollish. Urdu·Urdu dictionaries and Unlu EncyclopaedIa, establishment of (a) whether it is a fact that Sanjay Sagar caHigraphy centres in dIfferent parts of tbe (Bah) irrigation project in Vidisha· districi country, training of Urdu teachers and aSSIs- of Madbya P{a~esb bas been approved by tance to voluntary orgaOlsation. workwg tbe World Bank for cODstruction but its fOI the promotion of Urdu laoguage for such ap!=ralsal work is still going on by tbe activities. as publication of books, main· Central Water Commission and Planning tenance of Urdu ty~writiDg and shorlhand CommissioD .. since last two }ears ; centres, etc, To encourage authors and publication activitio;!s, Urdu book.s are pur .. (b) if so, tbe reasons for delaying the chased in muhipJe copi(s for free distribution project for so long; and (0 ins[]tutions.. (c) wbetber it is a facl that this project 7. There are Urdu Academies in II is coming up 10 the area where the irrigation Sta~es, inctdlOg West Bengai and Bihar. The percentage presently is eveD below 5 per Bureau for Promotion of~ urdu organises cent? perodically Coordination CommitteC! meetings for all these academies. In these meetJngs THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION publication programmes are revi~ed so as AND POWER (SHRI' B. SHANKARA- to avo:d duplication. SpeCial f'ffort'j are NAND); (a) aod (b) Sanjay Sagar (Bab} proposed to be undertakcD to promote the Irrigation Project in the VJdisba District of 'S.d.l!: of Urdu books thrQugh these academies. Madh~·a Pradesh is olle of the Medium ExhibirioDs of Urdu books ate also organised Irrigation Projects Included in the line of by the B.'rean for Promotion of Urdu. ",jib credit fOT World Bank assistance unde.r the the collaboration of State .Urdu Academies. MP Medium Irrigation Project. Howevu, A calligraphy centre bas aleady been sct up SJDce inclusion or this project 10 tbe pipeline, 16) Wntten An.lwers CHAITRA 28,1907 (SAKA) 162 tbe State Government bal reviewed Rnd examination witb .be CWC. OUI of tbe tOlal revised the scope of the project. The revised list of medium project nine prcjec;:tl are project rrpo[J. ::md estimate is presently awaiting clearance with the tbe t::eparlment under examinatiDn with lhe ('entral Water of Environment. Commis.sion and the Department of Environw menl. (d) Details of tbose projects wbere site actiVity bave started aro as per statemeDt Cc) As reported by tbe State Govero- auacbed. ment tbe perccntaac of irrigation in tbis StalemeDt district is 5 8% World Bonk Assisted Scbem•• in S. No. Name of tbe Project Madhya Prsdesb J. .AlP Medium Irri?Dtion Sub-Projec_t3 3602. SHR' PRATAP BHANU I. Cboral SHARMA: Will the Mimster of Matiamoti IRRIGATION AND POWER be pleased to 2. state: 3. Kaliasote 4. ~atlyat"i (a) how many new irrigasion projects we'e approved under tbe World Ba~k assis.. 5. Kolar tance scbeme in Madbya Pradesb during tbe 6. Gomukh Sixtb Plan period; 7. Cbhinpani (b) wbethdr all of them have been 8. GbuDgbutta cleared by various agencies and departments associated with rheir construction; 9. Tillar 10. Cbandor. (c) if not, tbe rcasas therefor; and 11. llijla Dewada (d) tbe details of tbose proj~ct. wbere 12 Bundala site activities have been started'? . 13. Budbna THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION 14. Kanbargaon AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA- 15. Dudbi NAND) : (a) Tbe World Bank have provided 'DA assistance for the following three 16. Barnai P, ojects during tb. Sixth Plan period; II. ]vIP ~\Jajor Irrigation Project (I) M.P. Major Irrigation Project. MAHANADI RESERVOIR PROJECT lSub.Projects) (1J) M~P. Medium Irrigation Proje~t. (a' Sondur Dam (iii) Cb.mbal (Madhya Pradesh) Irrigation II Projeot. (b) Rudri Headwork. (e) Pairi Dam (b) an:! (c) M.P. Major Irrigation Project and tile CII.mbal (MP) Irrigation II (d) Other remodelling works Project have been cleared for construction. HASDEO BANGO SCHEME Under MP Medium Irrigation Project, Bangs Dam, J6 Medium IrCigation Projects have been approved by the World Bank. An .ill. Chambal (M P) Irrigation II Project addtttonal stt projects have been propos~d for inclusion in tile cred,t. TwO' of the Works on the various projct compoDCDts revised project -reports in Jist are under are at different stages of execution. 16 t 163 Written Answers APRIL 18, 1985 Written Answers PensioDary _ent. to C. W .C. Pro.oremenl of Twll Passenger Vessel. Employees from International Market for AndoDtoo and N ieobllr IslaDds 3603. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANJ_ GRAHl: Will tbe Minister of IRRIGATION 3605. SHRI MANORANJAN BHAKTA: AND POWER be pleased to .tate , WJlI tbe Minister or SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT be pleased to slate: ., (a) wbether it is • fact tbat· the work. charged employees of three DivisioDs of (at whether the AndaT.an and Nicobac Central Water Commission functioning in AdmfDistratioD has requested Governmeot Orissa are deprived of getdnC the'r pensio. ror procurement of two passenser vessels aary benefit. ; from (he international market OD urgent basis; (b) has tbe peDRoDary benefits been aiwn to the families of tbe deceased tempo· (b) if so, the detail. of the action laken rary/work charlled employees wbD have died by Government thereon ; pccmature deaths durinl their service periods; (c) wbether it io a fact tbal T.S.S. Nancowryand M.V. A"damans both bave {b) if aD, Ihe number of ouch familie. expirt'd tbeir life and are uJ].fit for passenger who are letting such ,.. family pension services ; benefits ; and (d) if so, what i. the proposal of (d) if ODt, tbe reasons ther.for? Goverr.ment for replacemeot of these two' vessels ; Bnd THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION AND POWER (SHIll B. SHANKARA· (e) the delaits of the expenditure NAND}: (a) tD (d) The iofDrmatiDn is incurred ad repairs of M.V. Andamans aDd being cDllected and WIll be laid 00 tbe T.S.S. Nancowry durina the last three years? o Table of tbe Houle. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Opening 4( Hydrological Observatory MINIST.RY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS· at BhobaDesbwar PORT (SKRI Z. R. ANSARI) : (a) A suggel;lion to tbis effect was received froro 3604. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI· tbe A & N Administration while IIVlDg their GRAHl: Will tbe Minister Df IRRIGATiON com nCllt!ll on the draft interim report of AND POWER be pleased to stale: tb. Working G/ouP set up by the GdVern- ment to worle out the shipping requiremems (:1) whether Government are aware of of these islands during tpe Seventh Plan tbe public demand for openiog a hYdrologi. period. cal observation and flood forecasting circle or Central Water Commission under the (b) On Ibe baSil of tbe Deed for new Ministry of Irrigation and power at ships identified by Ibe Working Group, Bbuban... wa~ (On... ) ; aDd Shipping Corporation of India has already initiated action to iovite teoders. (b) i[ so, what step. GDvernmeDt bave (c) M V. Aadamao. is 28 yellr. old and taken in this regard ? T.S.S. Na,1cowry is 37 years old. Tbrougb THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATioN. the normal life of the ships has cxplle:d. AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA· tbey continue to ply as Ibey bave b'en NAND): (a) and (b) There bave beeD ceulCied fit by Government Surveyors in reqIMsts 10 consider opening or a new ~ respect of maintenacc and condition. "hydrological observatioos and floDd for.· Bolh tbe sbip' po••• ss passenaer ship stlfety caslin, Circle' at Bbubaneswar. In view of certificates. the need to CCODomise e:tpendilure. it may nol be possible to open a new Circle at (d) Tbe need for 3 new sbips identIfied Bbubaneswar in the near future. by tbe Worlr.tog Group as indicated in (b) J6S Written "'''IHlen CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAK,A) 166 above inclllde. the replacement of T.S.S. implemrDtcd in Government and non ... Nancowry and M.V. Andamans. Government colJeges throughout India; (e) Details arc as follows: cc) if 10, wby this di.crjmioation bas been meted out to Lecturers working in M.V. Andaman. T.S.S Nanco ....y . collegel and steps intended 10 be taken by Government to remove the anamoly; and (Repairs and Survey) (Ro. in lakhs) (d) tbe impact of scheme on the academic excellence aDd resear.cb studie. in 1981·8~ ,3291 73.76 Indian Universities? 198283 50.98 82.84 1983·8~ 50.0~ 258.79 THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (SHRI K.C. PANT): (a) Tbe UGC bad Suney of Kolayat.FAIQdi Rail Line formulated a scheme of merit promotion of u:cturen as as Readers and Readers .a 3606. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Professors, to implemented with erfect from WiU tbe MinISter of RAIL WA YS be pleased January J I 1983. The Commission Had also to refer to reply given to Unstarred Question offered filH1ncial assistance to implement tbe No 5517 dated 29 Marcb, 1984 regarding scheme upto 31.3.1985. The Scbeme i.lo survey of Kolayat Palod i Rail line and be implemented in tbe Statc Universities and state whether, keeping in view the increase CoU.ges affiliated to tbem with the coo- in popUlation, advent of Rajasthan canat currence of tbe Slale Govts. as Ihey have to discovery of salt and other minerals iD meet tbe maintenance expenditure on these (he area and deveIopmenl of Jaiselmer as a posts after 31.3 1985 AccordlDg to infor- tourist centre, Goveromf!nt .propose to take mation available, several universiues' have started implementation of the Scheme. a decision f0C the con~tructjon of thi5 rail line after undertaking a fresb SUlvey thereof, so as to provide a direct rail link betwlI:en (b) Bod (c) The scbeme is applicable Delhi aDd Jaiselmer in the Seventh Five also 10 tcachers in Government- and non_ Year Plan? Government colleges in the country. The detailed information about the implementa- THE MINISTER OP STATE IN THE tion of the scheme in colle.scs is not MINISTRY OP RAILWAYS (SHRI available. MADHA VRAO SCINDIA) : No, Sir. llre to severe constraints of resources, (d) The implemeotation of Ibe scbeme 1here is no proposal for undertak.ing a fre$h is still in Ibe inilial staaes. It is to early (0 ~urvey /construclion of Kolayat-FaJodi Rail make any assessment of tbe impact of tbe lme, in the Seventh Five Year Plan. scheme. Es·cadre Promotion Scheme to the posts Namlwr of Irri~ation Projects Approved of Readers and ProreS!orl during tbe last Five Years 3607. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: 3608. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: Will tbe Minister of EDUCATION be Will tbe MiDister of IRRIGATION AND pleased to state : 'POWER be pleased 10 state: (a) whether it is a fact tbat several tal tbe Dumber of irrigation projects unjversitie~ iD Jodia have adopted ano imple- of State Governments sanctionrd by tbe mented the ex-cadre promotion scheme fol' Union Government since 1980 till date. lbe po Its of Readers and pcofessor;'< in all State-wise; lubjects ; (c) how 'many are pendiog witb Union (0) wbetber it i. also a fact tb"l tbe Government for sanction (State.. wjse) and ex.ca~rc promotion scheme has not been reasons thc[cfot ; and Written Answers APRIL 18. 1985 Written .4nswers 168. (c) Ibe name of the projects of Raja!lhan various stages of examinatioD. A statement II pendins with the Union Government and sbowing th.o Slau.. wise break-up is attached. the realon. thereror ? Certa.in clarificatioDs for accepting tbe THE MINISTER OF IRR'lGATION tcchnoecooomic viabilily/reasonableness or AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA- cost I:stimates are required from tbe State NAND) : (a) Upto Marcb, 1985, 23 major Governments for considering clearance of aad 8S medium new irriplion schemes and tbese projects. revised· cstimate. of 14 M.jor and II Medium on'going irrigation schemes were (c) Towo major and 8 medium new accepted linee April, 198). Statement I irrigation :)cbcmes and one revised e5timatc showing tb. Stale-wise break up i. attacbed. arc under varioui staaes or examination. Tbe name! of the Projects arc liven at S'atement 111 attaChed. Cerlain clarificatloDs (b) As on 31st Matcb, 1985, 38 major Cor acceplinll their techno·economic viabilily/ and S9 medium new irrigation scbemes and reatonablcQ!:ss of cost estimates are- required ..vised estimate. or 17 major and 24 medium from the State Government for considering oa-Ioing irrilation Schemel remained under clearance of tbele projects. The Stale-wiSe number of new Irrigation Projects ani R~l';seli Estinl.ftes A ·cepted by the Plann;~ C"mmiss;on from 1-4-1980 to 31-3-1'85, -~ ..--~~-----~~~-- -.~~~-. S. No. Name or Stale ]qew Schemes· Revised Estimale Major Medium Major Medium Andhra Pradesh 2. As~sam 3. Bihar 3 9 4_ Gujarat 2 11 S_ Haryan. 2 6_ Himachal Pradesh .. 7_ Jammu &: Kashmir 8_ Karnai;lka 9. Kerala I 10. Madhya Pradesh 3 15 II. Mabar.shtra 4 29 i2. Manipur 2 13. Ocissa 2 14. Punjab 2 IS_ . Rajasthan 4 16. T",,!il Nadu 4 17. Tripura 18. Uttar Pradesb 4 Union Terril(1"i~s ~oa, Daman &; Qiu 23 85 ld II 169 W,ilt~n A."'''''~'' CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Wrillen An,.. er. 170 S(atemenl II Tlte SfaleK'ise number of New lrrieation! Revised Estimates Pendinc with the Centre (As on 31-3-1985)· ---~-- -- S. No. Name of Slate New Scheme Reviled Estimates ------_.___- Major Medium Major Medium 2 " S 6 I. Andhra Pradesh 4 4 I 2. Alsam 1 3. Bihar 4 16 4 14 4. Gujarat 1 5. Himachal Pradesh 6. . Jammu & Kashmir 1 4 7. karoataka 2 " 8. Kerala 9. Maharashlra 10 20 2 10. Maoipur 2 11. Orilsa S 4 12. Punjab 2 13. Rajasthan 2 14. Tamil Nod. 4 2 15. UUar Pradesh 1 2 16. West Benial 2 ---- Total 38 59 17 24· * The Dumber indicated Statewise doe!! The number alro does net include tbose Dot include schemes in rIver baains like 'schemes which have already been examined Cauvery e1C" where sharing of waters of the buin al a whole i. under dispute by by CWC and comments . senl 10 tbe State Ihe beneficiary states. Governments for clarifieation/comptiance. Slate_t III 2 Ctlaull J rrigation, 3. ~ModerDi5atioD or Alinia Irriaatioo Names of Irrigation Projec/s/Rel-'ised Scheme. Estimates of Rajasthan which"are Currently 4. Chaken Irrigation. under Tee/mical Examination in C.W.C. s. Piplait Lit.. IrriaatioD. A. MAJOR SCHEMES 6. Olwara Lift lrrigarion Scheme'. I. Narmada eaaal. 7. Hamil" Sagar Irrigation. Construction of Rajastban Feeder 2, 8. Kar:alt Irrigation. Conversion ofSiwan-Th.we_Gorakbpur depend on availability of resources in. LilJe inlo ~OOId Gauge Railway sector and paymcpt of increased sbare of cost by Ihe State Governments of 3~09. SHRI KALI PRASAD Bihar and Uttar Pradesh for river protection . PANDEY: Will the Minister of RAIL- work. WAYS be pleased 10 state: Carrying Coal tbrougb Asonsol, MokBmoh, (a) wb~tber it is a fact tbal a lurvey Muzaffarl!ur ""d Gorakhpur on broad was conducted in 1972 in cODnection with gauge r.ail liDe convertioD of Siwan.. Tbawe~Gorakbpur line into b.road aauge line; 3611. SHRI LALlTESHWAR SHAHI : (b) if so, whetber tbe conversioQ of tbe Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased said IiDe ioto broad gauge bas since been to slate: commenced ; and (8) whether there is any proposal for (c) if Ddt, the reasons for delay and carrying coal through AsansoJ, Mokamab, when the coDversion work is likely to com.. Muzaffarpur and Gorakbpur on beoad gauge mence and completed 1 • rail line; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the details tbereof ? MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SARI MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRJ (b) No, Sir. MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (Ill and (b), Coal for jndultrial and other consumers (C) There is DO proposal, at present, for located between Barauni·Muzaffarpur- conversion of Slwan·ThaWC'.. Gorakbpur metre Gorakhpur. is atread) being carried on tte gauge section into broad gauge, in view of broad gauge line via·Asansol_Mokamah_ severe constraint of reSources and heavy Muzaffarpuc. commitmentl already in hand. Chhilauni RaUway Bridge Rail Com Road Bridge Near BhagBlpur (Bihar) 3610. SHRI KALl PRAsAD PANDEY: Wtlilhe Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased 3612. SHRI LALITESHWAR SHAHI ; to state: W,ll tbe MlD,ster of RAILWAYS be plea.cd to state: (8) the progress of construction of the Cbbitauni Railway Bridge in West Cham ... {a) whether there is any proposal to rail~(.,um·road paran District of BIharI foundat~on stone of consUuct a bridge at or near which was laid by tbe late Prime Minister Bbag.lpur (Bihar) ; Shrimati Indira Gandhi in 1974; and (b) if so, the details thereof; and (h) wben tb, wQfk of construction of .be railway bridge is likely lEt be completed? (c) the step. taken by Government jn the matter? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN lHE MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) FouMlation MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI slonc for raIl line from Cbhitauni to Bagaha MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) No, Sit. (28 4 kmt}, Includina: the bCldge across river Gagdak, was laid by the late Pctme Mimstcr (b) and (c) Do not arise. Smt. Indira Gandbi on 22.10.73. PambSD Bridge iIJ Tamil Nadu (b) Bagab. Valmikinagar ••chon (9 kms) has hoen .completed and opened to trarfic, 3613. SHRI N. DENNIS:· Will the Commencement and complelion- of Ihe Min ... t.r of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT r.maming section, inCluding the bridge, will be pleased 10 slate : CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written A'uw~r. 174 (0) Ihe Ileps laken by Governmenl 10 (a) wbetber il i. a facl Ihal due 10 -complete Ih~ work on Pamban bridge in inadequate berthing .pace in some major Tamil Nadu ; and ports like Bombay, Ca1cutta, Madras aJ,d Cocbin the incoming vessals at those Ports (b) when tbe work on the bridge i. do Dol make any hall ; likely to I!" completed ? (b) if '0. what are Ibe detail. tbereor THE MINISTER OF'STATE OF THE per week in tbe months of October, MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS. November and December. 1984 ; and f'ORT (SHRI Z It, ANSARI): (a) aod (b) Arter Ih. oriliaal Contractor to whom Ihe Ic) what ,emedial steps .are proposed to work was a_rded left it incomplete. the see that adequate bcrthina: space .is made balancc work was put to tender abd awarded available to incoming vessels? to MI. Gammon Ioclia (""I.) LId, in February. 1984, The work is in prOllre •• THB MINISTER OF STATB OF THE and lhe larget of complelion i. February. MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS- 1987. PORT (SHR! Z,~. ANSARI) : (a> No, Sir. Settlnll Up of New Hospitals for (b) and (c) Do nol ni,e. Treatment of HNFI Diseases Decline In Incidence of Malaria 3614. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will Ibe Minisler of HEALTH ANU FAMILY 3616. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATN'AIK: WELFARE be plea,ed 10 slate: WiIIlhe Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased 10 lIta'e : (a) wbetber tbere is any proposa1 under consideration or Government to estabHsh (a) wbetber thl!re has been progr-.vc new hospitals ror treatment of heart decline in tbe incidence of Malaria in the diseases in the eouatry ; country; (b) whether it is also a fact that our (b) if so, tbe name of tbe States where doctors are fully competent to cure heart the incidence.of Malaria has been declined: disease. ; and (C) tbe steps .aken to eradicate M.alaria (c) if so. the number of sUllh dOClors from different parts of the couotry ; and and Ihe factlilie,o Governmenl have ext.nd,d in 'avour of these doctors to cure heart (d) Ihe programmes proposed to be patienls? implemented in 'be Sevenlh Plan for tbal purpose? THE MINISrER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) to (cl DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRl' There is 00 proposal under consideration foc YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) Yes, Sir, establisbing new hospita's exclusively for treatment of heart diseases. Tbere~ are a t b) The decllniog trend or malar a bas number of hospitals in the country having been reported from tbe States of Bibar .. advanced facilities for cardiac care. The Gujara,l, Himachal Pradesh, Karnataka,. Government extends rulJ co~operation to the Mddhya Pradesh. Manipur, Nagalaod. bospi(als through' grant of custom·duty Sikkim. and Union Terntones of "AndamaD ~xcmption ror importing sophisticated equi p~ &: Nicobar Jslands, Arunachal Pradesh, ments whicb they may require ror developing Dadra d: Nagar H.veli~ DelhI, Goa, Daman Ib..., facilities. & Diu and Lakshadwe.p. Jadequate Bertbfa& Space ia Porllio or (c) and (d) The following specific steps Bombay., Calcutta. Madras alld Cocbin arc being taken to control/eradicate tbe ror Incoming ~ Vessels lllcid-cnce of malaria in tbe countl y ,,9 a- wbole. 3615. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Will Ibe Minister of SHIPPING AND (i) Every Vmale i. visited forlQiahtly TRANSPORT be pleased to .Iato: by 5urveillance workers to detect 175 W,itt«n Amwer$ APRIL 18, 1985 Written An,we,.s 176- fever caseE, collect blood smears io {he country to achieve tbe long term per- and to give presumptive treatment. spective of • Heallb for All by 20['0 AD; (ii) Tbe laboratories in tbe Primary (b) if 00-, tbe details [ben,of ; and Heallh Centres provide prompt examination of blood smtars of (c) the guide1ines sent to various State... fever cases and innitution of in this reg2rd "1 radical treatment of positive cases. THE MINISTER OF STATE lN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND (iii) Insecticidal spray operations are FAMILY WELFARE (SHRI YOGENDRA undertaken in all the eUlal .;reas MAKWANA) : (a) to (e) During the 6th which bave incidence of two or "Plan, norm for the establisltment of primary more cases per thousand popula- health centres has been revisf:d. The prc .. tien per year. sent norm is to have one Primary Health Centre for every 30.. 000 rue."] population in (i~) Drug Distribution Centre~ and general and for eVC1Y 20,000 population in Fever Treatment Depots at c biily and tribal area. It ..as also decided fUDctioning in tbe vilJagcl so tbat thai additional inputs should be provided to the drug could be made availa ble, the existing rural dispensaries to convert with no Ipss of time. to the fever them into Subsidiary Hearth Cenrres _ which cases. can take up an the functions of the Primary Health Centres. The Sixth Plan tarset for (v) To create public awareness, health tbe establishment of PJimary Healtb Centres education on tbe subject has been and Subsidiary Health Centre was tiOO (re- intensified. vised 756) & 2270 ",spectively. Tbe likely achievement duriag tbe 6th Five Year Plan (vi) loorder to control tbe spnad of for Primary Health Centres and SubsidIary the P. /alciparum infection... which Bea1ch Centres is likely to be 1876* & 1954* causes cerebral marana, the p. Icspc-chvely. [alcipa,um Containment Pro- gramme is being implemented in Introduction of Electric Train Serfices ·the ~Jfected areas of tbe country. betwc:Of Tirupati Pilgrim T(lwn aDd (vii) ReaHsing tbe difficuh'es of the Madras via Tiruth~ni States for the procurement of costly insecticide Jike malathion, 36J8. SHRI CHINT-\ MOHAN: Will the Government of India has tbe Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to decided to provide tbe entire atate: quantity of malathioD 10 the States .the cost of which will be (a) whether Iher.e is any proposal to fully reimbursed by the Central run ekctJic train service at re-gular intervals Government. between Tirupati Pilgrim Town and Madras. via Tirutbani; Tbe ModIfied Plan of Opention UDder tbe National Mal"ria Eradication Pro- (b) if so, .he details [hereof; aad gramme will be continued as au on going programme in the Seventb Five Year Plan. (C) whether Goverllment propose to expedite inrroduction of such regular ser.. Primary Health Centre DeU,ery System vices to ease Ihe present traffic load? 3611. SHRIMf,T! JAYAN'n PAT- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE NAIK : W,ll [he MiDi,ter 0 f HEALTH MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI .AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to- MADHAVRAO SCINDJA) : (a) No, Sic. state; (b) and (c) Do not arise. (a) wb~ther Government have taken aoy Step C'urmg tbe ~Ixth Plan for dc\eJop- inR Pnmarv health centre. delivery s)stcm *Fliurel Provisional. 177 Written Amwen CHAITR.A 28. 1907 (SAKA) Written An.srwers 178 Madras Nellore Sec-fion of National Student Strength of lhe Central Scbool. Highway No, 5 Damoged due to Cyclone Tirupalhl 3619. SHRI CHINTA MOHAN: WiJl '3620 SHRI CHINTA MOHAN:. WIll the Mini.ter of SHIPPING AND TRANS- tbe Minister of EDUCATION be pleased to PORT be pl.ased to slate: State: (a) whether there bas been any damage (a) the present student strength of Ihe to National Highway NOt 5 between Madras Central Scbool at Tirupatbi; and and N (c) what steps have been taken to THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION repair the damages; (SHRI K.C. PANT); (a) There were 556 students on rol1s of Kendriya Vidyalaya (d) wHether Government are col;ectiDg (Central School), Tirupath i, on 24·}-1985. acy toll at Gudur on National HIghway No, 5; and (b) No, Sir. (e) if SO~ the details of such colJe-ctiOD Grant of Subsidy to Farmers Cooperatives during the past three years, year-wise? for Lift Jrrigation THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 3621. .SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE MI~lSTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS- PATlL; Will the Mrnister of IRRIGATION PORT (SHRI Z R. ANSARI): (0) (0 (0) AND POWER be pleased to stale: Madras .. Nellore S(fctfon c'f Nati0nal Hygh~ way No. 5 wa~ badly affected due w cyc- (a) whether Government have consi... lone in November, 1984. The portion of dered the desirability giving subsidy to the National Highway in Andra Pradesh or the Farmer's Cooperalives for their efforts was over toppe'd and breached at several to instal pump sets for lift irrigati9fl to places diJ:ruptiog Ih~ traffic frem 13th to bring upto 5000 acre of land under irrigation 21st November. 1984. Aflee carryiIlg out with their own resources; inlmediate repairs to the affected 'itretches of fhe road the traffic was soon restored. Estimates amounting to Rs. 75.268 IIlkhs (b) if so, the details thereor; and R,. 4.947 lakbs in tbe Sta,es (If Andr. (c) the present faciHtieo; that are pro· Pradesh and Tamil Nadu respectively bave vided to farmers for their own initiative iu been sanctioned for restoration of damages this field; and and improvement of the road surface. (d) whether augmentation of this. faci .. (d) and (e) The particulars of the fee lity is being considered? collected at bridge on Monubolu By~pass between Gudur and Nellore on National THE MINISTER OP'IRRIGATION AND Highway No.5 are as under: POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARANAND) : (a) alId (b) No such proposal Is under con- Year AmouDt sideration in the Ministry of Irrigation and Powt'r (DepaTtment of Irrigation). 1982-83 Rs. 2,16,102 (c) and (d) A .cbeme to provide subsidy on matcbing basis to small and marginal 198~·8~ Rs. 1.96920 farmers for minor irrigation is being imple. 1984-85 Ro.2,50,062 mented by tbe Ministry of Agriculture &: Rural Development. ' (79 Writt",. An#wers APRIL IH.,1985 ~Writtl!'n Ansl+.e,,· , 180 [Tru ..iatio n) (c) whlt is tbe sta.tus and role of M" R (Mass Miniature Radiograpby) in detection Central Grants IlJI-d Loans gi,en to , "Madbya Pradesl\ for Irrigation and fl)How up of cases of T.B. in our country giving Srateawise and year-wise Project ia Tribal Areas position durmg the la!t three years? 3622, SHRI BALKAVI BAIRAGI : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Will the Mini,ter of,IRRIGATlON AND DJ;lPARTMI'NT OF HEALTH (SHRI POWER be pleased to state: YOGENDRA MAK:-VANA) : (al Yes; Sir. (8) tbe amount of grants and loans given by Union Government to Government (b) X ray md.chim::s are not suppiied to of Madbya Pradesh in the Sixth Plan to Primary Heal[h Cenlres under Rural Health complete their icrigatioD projects in tribal' Schemes. However, there is a provision of areas; X-ray facilities at Community Health Cent~es/Upgraded Primary Health Centres. (b) tbe criteTla for giving grants and loaDs for (ne irrigation projects in tribal' (c) X~ray UDlt attached with Miniature, areas; RadIography eqUipmellts is used to under- take X-ray cbest examlOation of the pati- (c) whether the amount given was less ents. With the attachment of Miniature tban tbat fixed by Union Government; .lind Radiography equipment to the X.ray un it, small sized X-ray films (70 mm X 70 rom or (d) if so, tbe reaSonS therefor? 100 rnm X 100 mm).c:an be used and ,as the tHE MINISTER OF lRRIG-\TION cost of these o=;mal1 sized X-ray films-is about AND POWER (SHRI B SHANKARA. 1/8tb to l/IOtb of tbe standard ~ized X-ray NAND) : (a) to (d) No Central assistance film. it be;omes quite economical, especial1y was provided by the Ministry or lI'Iig.:H.ion when a large Dumber of X-ray chest exami· and Power, Go-velament of India for com- nations are to be conducted. In those patients whcre X-ray chesf examination" re- pletion of ICI igatioo projects .in tribal areas in Madbya Ptadesh in the Sixth Plan. veals prese[]ce of abnormal s.hadows in the luogs, further Investigahons to establish the diagnOSIs of Pulmonary TB are conducted ~Engli.hl The X-ray chest examinations is also under: InciusioD of T B. Control in 20 Point taken :1S a part of tbe follow-uiJ measures Prograrnme and X-ray Machines in to assess the progress or ctherwise of the Primary Health Centres diagno'l:ed TB patients who are undertaking treatment. ' 3623, SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : Under National TB Programme, static Will tb-'! M!.::lister of HEALTrl AND X-ray units attached with Miniature Radio- FA YlILY WELFARE be pleased to, state: graphy equipment (Odelca Camera) are (a) whether T.B. co;"}troJ programme available at 354 Diitcict TB Centres in tbe country. A statement I showing the number has been included 10 the 20-PolDt Pro- gramme; of Di.strict T)\ Centres (State-wise) where such equipments are ava:fable is artached. (b) if so, how m.ny of the Primary Statement H showing tile Dumber of TB Health Centres are equip;Jed W~[h. X-ray -cases detected during the h,st three years is machinea;, and attached. 181 WrJl/~n A-n ... wers CHAITRA 28. 1907 (SAKA) 182 Statement-I Statement shoH 41lf{ the nr.mber of District TB Centres equipped with X-ray Units an J Miniature Radiography equipment SI. Name of State/Union Total No. of DI.tt. TB. Centre. equipped No. Territory wilh X-ray unit attllched "'th Miniature Radio ~raphy equipment" (Odelea Cam «a) 2 3 ~~~~~~ --~-~------I. Andhra Pradesb 23 2. A'Uam 10 3. Bihar 25 4. Gujarat 19 5. Haryana 9 6. Himachal Prad.,h 7. Jammu & Kashmir O~ 8. Karnataka 19 9. Kerala 10 10. Madhya Pradesb 45 11. Mabarsbtra 26 12. Manipur 2 13. Meghalaya 2 14. Nagaland 15· OriSia 13 16. Punjab 10 17. Rajasthan 26 18. Sikkim 19. Tamilnadu 15 20. Tripura 2 21. Ullar Pradesh 56 22. West Bengal 16 Union Territories 23. Arunachal Pradesh 24. Goa, Daman & Diu 5. Mizoram 26. Pondicherry 27. Andaman & Ni~obar Islands 28. Cbaodigarb 29. Dadr. & Nag4r HaveH 30. Delbl 31. Lakshadweep Total: 354 183 Written Answers APRIL 18.1985 Written Answers 184 Statemeot-II Statement Showing Number of TB Patients Detee ted durmr: 1982-83.1983-84 and 1984-85 (upta February, 1985) (Prowiollai) ~------SI. Name of the Satate/U.T. 1982-83 1983-84 lS84 85 No. (Provisional) upto Feb. 85. ------_ I. Andhra Pradesh 594c7 61 '94 54751 2, Assam UOO2 15517 12858 3_ Bihar U862 91260 110793 4: Gujarat 85437 101019 92488 5. Haryana 18J23 19518 17320 6. Hhoadhal Pradesh 11311 14024 12354 7. Jammu & Kashmir 8550 &214 6;28 8. Karnataka 45763 4&009 42996 9. Kerala 30395 29572 24427 10. Madhya Prade,h 74879 93617 71070 11. Maharashtra 177159 c0579Z 179170 12; Manipur 1311 1585 1660 13. Meshalaya 92 12 '9 1194 14. Nagaland 174 705 742 15. Qriss!l 20581 2359() 20662 I~. punjab 251::6 34596 26538 17. Rajasthan 34668 38129 41271 18. Sikkim 1248 621 N.R. 19. Tamil -r::radu 88140 93'437 84078 20. Tripura 1528 164~ 1413 21. Uttar Pradesh 178880 199949 189192 22. We~t Bengal 78245 74458 49307 23. Arunachal Prade~h 761 1187 1~65 24. Goa~ Daman & DIU 2181 2819 2572 25. Mizoram 533 1027 493 26. Poudicbarr)' 4868 4IlO AI,7 27. A. & N. Islands 612 576 277 28. Chaod.garh 16,0 1982 1974 29. Dadra & Nagar Haveli 111 301 1"7 30. Delhi 33821 37595, 32998 31 Laksbadweep 79 150 127 -- --~------.----- Total: 1011493 1108800 1085572 -~------485 CHAITRA 28, 1%7 (SAKA) 186 [Tram/arion] (d) No- targets are fixed under these schemes/programmes. Haodicapped and th4!ir Employm~ot Statement 3624. SHRI MO()L CHAND DAGA; i) 3% vacancies for the physically hadi- Will the Minister IH SOCIAL AND calJt)ed 1% .each for the blind, the WOMEN'S WELFAlkE be pleased (0 slate: dlaf and Ibe orthdpaedically bandicap "cd in group C a-od D posts in (a) tbic total number of handicapped Cent~al services and in comparable .persons in the cmtntry indicatiog tbe numbc;r posts in Public Sector Undertaking!; . of blinds, delllf ~and orthopaedicalJy hadi- have. been reserved. capped p~rsods among them, separately; The complete information on the (b) whl!ther Government have formu- number of badicapped persons given lated any Scheme to provide employment emp!oyment in Central Government opportul1f(ies EO these handicapped persons office, is not available. However :from .in order to make tbem self reltanr; tbe reports collected by the lCiiDi5try of Social &- Women"s Welfare. The ('{ If so, tbe details of the scbeme an' following Dumber. of persons were the number of such persons who were glVl'n employed during the past three years: ~mployment under the scbeme so'" far .od of those bandicapped persODs who have been Year Group ·C' Group 'Of given employment 10 Government "'flees during the year 1982-83, 1983-'4 and. 1982 49 48 1984·85; and 1983 71 45 (d) tbe target fixed by the OovernmcJJt 1984 lJ9 135 and the extent to whicb it h.uf' been achie- ved ? ii) To assist handicapped persons 10 getting THE MINISTER·OF STATE OF THE employment, Government of India have MINISTRY OF SOCIAL AND WOMEN'S set up 22 special employment exchanges WELFARE (SHRIMA TJ M. CHANDRA- and 31 special calls in normal employment SEKH ..R): (a) Acoordlng '0 .he Nationa) excnangcs which are engaged in ex~lusive Sampl~ Survf'Y coodutted in 1981, there placement or hadicapped persons in gainful are ab()ut .l20 lakll-"ersoos havlog atleast employment. one or tae other di"'oilrty constituting about During the past three yean, the ;ono- i 8% of the total population of 68 crores. wing number of badicapp-ed persons have Tbe disabJllty-wist break-up is as fQ.lIow~:_ been placed in employment by special em- i) Locomotor 54.3 lakb persons ployment exchanges:- dlsd>llitics Year No. of hadicapped ii} Visual 34.7 lakb persons persons placed disabilities 1982 4055 I'll) Hearing 30.2 lakh peuons disabilities 1981 2448 iv) Speech 17.5 lakb persons 1984 1963 disabilities ------_-_ In addition, normal employmeot exchanges Abou. 10% of the disabled have more also beJp handicapped pecson! In plac-emen than one type of disability. in gaiDful employment. During the past three years, tb. number of handicapped (b) and (c) A .till.m~Dt indicating ·tbe person. liven jobs tbrougb employment speci fic pro&rammes!schemes: for promoting excbao&es (encluding lpecia. "mploymcnt employment of tbe ha4icapped is annexed. ex:chaDles) is as rollows;- 187 Writte" AII,wtrs APRIL 18, 1985 18S The number of handicapped beneficiaries Year No. of handicapped under this scheme is not available. persons placed [English] 1982 9381 Medical Manpower Available 10 India 1981 6444 3625. SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY: wm 1984 5730 tbe MlDister of HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state wbether iii) 14 Vocational RehabititaticD Centres Gover.oment propose to make amendment have been set up to alsess the residual to tbe I M.C, Act of 1956, so as to provide ability of the disableds arrange tbeu train- for periodical registration of medical practi,,- ning and place tbem in regular employ- tioners at least once in five years '? ment. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE The number of clients rehabilitated by DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRk Vocational Rehabilitation r~enlres is as YOGENDRA MAKWANA): Yes, Sir. follo ..s:- 'CiI1ag." witbout Medical FaciIiles Year No. of clients 3626, SHRI ANANTA PRASAD rehabilitated SETHI: W,ll tbe MlDister or HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased ta 1982 3510 state: 1983 3966 (a) whether Government bave conduc- 1984 4722 ted any survey regarding the villages jn the country where- medical facilihes are nut available; iv) Public Telephone Bootbs are given to pby&ically hadicapped persons by Minis- (b) if so, the del ails thereof: try of CommunicatioDs to help tbem earn a JiviDg. (c) whether Government propose to- provide roob~le. hospitals to augment 2348 Public Telepbone Booths have primary health services in every viJlage in been allotted to physically handicapped tbe country; and persons as on 31st December. 1984. (d) if so, the delails tbereof 1 v) Loans are made avall.ble from banks at Dominal ratc') of interest to enable tbe THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE pbysical1y nandicapped persons in setting up DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI selr.-employment ventur.es. YOGENDRA MAKWANA) : (a) and (b) No survey has been conducted rega tding tbe- The number or benefIciaries under this villages in the country where medical ra cilities scheme is not available. . are not available. However, medical and bealtb facdUie. art" be-jDg provided to a\1 the vi) IS% of all type of dealership/agency VIllages of the pountry tbrough a net work in public sector 011 companies are earmaked of about 80,000" sub centres, 7360 Primary for bandlcapped persons incuding tbose Heallb Centres, 4010* Subsidiary Health disabled in war. Centres, and 593* UPllraded Primary Healtb Centrc-s/Coromuoity Healtb Centres and Tbe Dumher of handicapped beneficiaries village level by 5.0' lakhs trained Dais aDd uude; tbis scbeme is not available. 3.S· lakbs Heallh Guide. besides large number of rural dispensaries working under vri) Assistance is given to voluntary tbe State/UT Governments. organisations -to promote pJacement services (or tbe haDdicapped persons. • Figures Proviliaaa.l. l89 CHAITRA 28. 1907 (SAKAl 1'10 (c) and (d) Theree is DO proposal to on land being made available aod earthwork provide mobile hospitals to augment Primary executed by tbe State Government of Health Services in evelY vilJ-age in the Hlmac)al Pradesb. ·country. Doubling of Jalandbar·Patbankot Rail Higber T. B. Patients in Rural Areas than Urban Areas Track 3 [)27. PROP. NARAIN CHAND 3629. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: PARASHAR : Will the Minister of Will the Mini~ler of HEALTH AND RAIL WAYS be pleased to slate: FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to ~tate : (a) whetber tbe Railway Board bave (a) whether it IS a fact tbat tbe number taken a decision to' double tbe Rai1way of patients surfecin,g from the T. B. are "truck between lalandbar and Pathankot in much wore higher in tbe [ural areas thaD tbe Seventh Five Year Plan; the patients suffering from T. B. in the urban areas; (b) if so, the estimated cost and the likely period for ibe completioll of Ibe (b) wherber It is also a ract that there project; is DO proper treatment available to the poor patients. In the rura] areas whereas (c) whether GoverQrnent have also th~e. are more facilities availallic in the received any fepresehtation for linking urban areas; and Pathankot via Nangal and Amb by speedlDg up the cO-Qstruction of Nanga]-Talwara railway line bv m iking suitable adjustments! (c) if so, whether Government propose alteratloo') b:yond Amb. so as to reheve to set up T. B Hospital in the rural areas congestion 00 the eXisting track betwecn also? J.landhar aDd Pathankot and open Ollt iJ. new area for development. keeping in VIew THE MINISTER OF SrATE IN THE the shortage of funds and thus fulfil the DEPARTMENT 01' HBACTH (SHRI purpose of developiog the existing [rack ; YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) Yes. Sir. and The prevalence rate of T. B. is almost tbe same In the rural -as well as itr the urbnn (d) tf .so, when a de.;i3ioD would be areas. As about 80% population of the taken io tbis regard? country is liVing in the rural are'lS. and prevalence rate being tlle,same, the number THB MINISTER 01' STATE IN THE of palients suffering from T. B. and living MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRI in tbe rural areas is higher as compared to MADHAVRAO SCINDIA): (a) an (c) T. B. Control is integrated witb (c) if so. where tbey bave been resettled- lb. General Healtb Servi""" and Case- and what are the details of belp rendered t~ finding and IIcalIDent facilHies. for. the them as compensation? benefit of tbe lural population, are being provided tlll'ougb Primary Health Ceriues THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION a,nd other Medical Institutions functioning AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA- in the rural areas. There is DO scheme to NAND) : Power Supply to Karoataka from (c) RehabiHtatioD lites with CIVIC facilities like wells, schools and intc:;rnal roads Kalpakam aDd Neyveli are being developed at a nunlbcr of places ]ike Ambewadi~ Chindiyapur, Khadagada~ 3630. SHRI V S. KRISHNA IYER: Suka, Tbapavi and Tentalav to resettle tbe Will tbe Minister of IRRIGATION AND affectcd families. The compensation for the POWER be pleased to stale: land and property acquired is being paid iD accor dance with the provisions of the Land (a) how much of power is at present Acquisition Act. given to Karnataka from KaJpam Atomic and Neyveli The-rmal Power Projects; and Steam J~o("os in Railways (b) in view of the fact that Karnataka 3632 SHRI AMAkSINH RATHAWA: is facing actlte p~¥'er famIDe, do the Will tbe Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased Government propose to take steps to ensure to state: that rightful share of power from the above projects are made availablt to Karnataka (a) the number of steam locos operating jmmediately ? in Railways at present aod the annual expenditure incurred on them; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OEPOWER (SHRI ARUN (b) whether their number is decleasing NEHRU): (a) .nd (b) No power is at year after year and tbe expendIture is present given to Karnataka from Kalpakam increasing ; At()mic & Neyveli Tberm;;ll Power StaJicns, (c) if SOt the reasons there(o~ ; and since no share has been aUocated to Karnaw taka in the presently instaJIed capacity of (d) when these engines wiH be replaced these Stations. .... wIth diesel or electric? Narmada Dam THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THIl MINISTRY OF· RAILWAYS (SHRI 3631. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA ; MADHA VRAO SCINDIA) : (a) The.number W,ll the Minister of IRRIGATION AND of steam locos opera tina in Railways "115 aD POWER be pleased to SI.te : l.4J~4 is 6212, The annual expenditure incurred on tbdr repairs. maintenance and (a) what is the progress made in regard operation for 1983·84· .was Rs. 569.71 to the construction of Narmada Dam in Crorc~s. Gujault ; (b) No, Sir. (b) whetber it is a fact tbat hundreds of the adivaai ramilj.e~ whicb were residing in (c) Mainly due to increased repla.cements. the area where the dam is being constructed of major assemblies, which are costlier. A JSD were uprooted; aDd due to escalation of prices and wagts. 193 Written Answer~ CHAITRA 2&. 1907 (SAKA) 'Written Answers 194 (d) steam locomotives are beiol (a, whether there has been any increase gradually replaced by DIe.al and Electric in the all India average of e.xlXndilure per locos, according to Ih.... availdbirity of b.d per annum incurred by the Ce1..lre· aad resourCes It is difficult to forecast the tbe State Government on medicines and diet date for ,'total replacement of the large in the H~spitals during the Jast three number of 6212 st.am locos. yeary; Over-Aged Steam Engine§ on Bhavnagar (b) if so. what was this increase in the Ohl.lon expenditure OD diet and meriicines -compan~d 3633. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: to Ihi! increas,p in the, An India Consumer Wil! tbe Minister of.RAILWAYS be pleased Price Index Number during the same period; to state: and (a) wherer it is a fact that over·aged (c) the Slate-wi.. break· up of (b) steam· engines are running on Bhav~agar above? Division of Western Railway; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if 90, tbe. number of such engines; DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI (c) whether use of tbe over-a ,ed engines YOGEt-iDRA MAKWANA): (a) to (c) are affecting the timings and the speed of Heallb is a State subjecl. Tbe Central running traiDs ; and Government is Dot mailltaining any account of what the State Governments are spending (d) if so, the action proposed to be in respect of 'various hospitals under their taken' by Government for [hose over-aged administrative control. T6e per capita engines? expenditure on health however" is estimated THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to bave bgone up from R&.. 19.91 in 1979~80 MINISTRY OF' RAILW-\YS (SHRI to Ro 27.86 in 1981 82. Similarly. expen- MADHAVRAO SCINDIA) : (a) There are diture on Family Planning bas gone up from no over-agl!d steam engines funning on the R. 1.84 in 1979·80 to Rs. 2.77 in 1981·82. Metre Gauge section of Bbavnagar Division. However, on the Nerrow Gauge of Bhav~ Railway Line iD Kerala Vis_a: Vis nagar Division. over-aged steam engines are Population fuoning. (b) Eight. 3635. PROF. P. J. KURIEN : SHRI GEORGE . JOSEPH <<0) Yes, Sir. MUNDJ\.CKAL: Will tbe Minisler of , (d) As per 'he prcsl!nt policy, no new RAILWAYS be pleased to state: steam locomotives are being built. Depening on the reSources available, diesal cngil:es are (a) tbe Kilometre railway line per one being introduced selectivdy on routes with lakh population in the State or KeraJa; higher density of trofflc. The steam locOmo- and tives workiog on these routes ure raleased for deployment locomotives may be v.orking. (b) wbl:!ther effective measure are being The narrow gauge Section of BhavDa~ar has taken to minimise this high degree of im- less denSity of traffic with only 4 pairs of balance with special reference to ~era)a. ? trains running and lhe steam locomotiv\s at present working on tbis section win be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE replaced by tbe'-e released from other sections MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS (SHRJ in the'ir turn according to this procedure, MADHAVRAD SCINDIA): (a) Tbe route Kilomelreage in Kerala per lakb popula tion Jotrease in AU India Avfrllge of Expendi- i03.6. t re P'er Bed Per Annum incurred in Government Hospitals (b) 281 Kmo. of new Railway lines bave 3634. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN: been added. in Kcrala since lndcpendenc:e, Will the Minister of HEALTH AND Two morc new linel are already under FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to stale: construction. 195 U?rittt?H Answers APRIL 18. 1985 Wrif/en Answers 196 Thermal power Plan a l Dabhol (Hi) to help develop measures for acci':ent prevention in fbe light of experk.c.ce 3636. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI:' gained by researcb and by public WIll the Minister of IRRIGATION AND educatIon; POWPR be pl.sed to state: (iv) to train persoDnel to deal With such ~a) what progress has been made in emargcncies ; and establishing a thermal power statIon at Dabhol which was sanctioned In the Sixth (v) to rehabilitate Victims as useful five Y;.':ar Plan; and dliz('ns in {he society ,n the hest po~~,ble manner. 1 he CeDll",! Gov•. (b) ""hat factors are weighing a,:amst the has no proposal for (he setUflg up C'f said tbermal stallon which bas delayed the slmilar ~peciaJjs-td units mother impl: mentation of scheme sanctioned In major citie!l. Most of the major· Sixtb Five Year Plan? hospitals under the State Government have emergency and casualty !iictvices THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 10 treat accident victims. DEPAR TMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN NEHRU): (8) and (b) Tbe proposal te> Birth Dt'ath Rate Bod Net Increase Rate or establisb a thermal power station at Debhol PopulatioD during 5th and 6th Plan hal hot been sanctioned in the Sixth Plan. A. decision can be laken after all the necessary 3638. SHRI DIGYIJAYA SINGH: inputs such as availability and transportation Wil! tbe Mlnisler of HEALTH AND of coal, finances ctc. have been tied up. FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: Spcciahsed Accideot Care Centres ill "(a) wbat has been tbe birlh rale, death Major Citielo rate and the nel increa!e rate or population during tbe last 10 ,ears; 3631. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: Will tbe Minlsler of HEALTH AND . (b) bow does Ibis tally with the famLly FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to state: plaoolflg tergets in the Fifth and Sixth Five y ~ar PI.".; and (a) wbether Government plans to have Ipeciali5.cd accideot carc centres 10 major (c) how were these targets arrIved at ? cities; THE MINI~TER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH- (SHRI (b) if :So, the details th.creof ; and YOGBNI)RA MAKWANA): (a) Tbe (C) If not. whether exisfing major bos- Sample Regi&tration System of Regiltrar pitals will have specialised uuits to treat General of India p[oYldes annual estimates accident viclim'\ '1 of birth aod death rates on caJendar year basis. Tbe rale of natural l.ocreasc is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE obtained as difference b.:l"'C::CD the annual DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI birtb and deatb rates. Anrlual birth rate, YOGENDRA MAKWKNA): (a) to (c) A death rafe and rate of natural increase (per Icheme for establishment of CentraHsed 1000 population) for the last ten years as AccideDt &: Trauma Services under the latest available _ mformalion is given in tbe auspices of All India Institute of Medical attached Statement. &ieDCCSt New Delhi bas been approved for (b) and (e) Fifth Five Year Plan family Ibe city of Delbi witb tbe following planning targets at National It;vel were fixed objectives : with a 'VIc"" to acbieve Birth Rate of 30 per (i) to provide prompt service· to tbe thousand by tbe end of plan period i c. injured, preferably the treatment to be 1978-79 However, Sixth Five Year p!~n Iltarted elt tile site of tbe accideDt ; family planning targe!s were fixed so as to protect 36 b"/. of coupl.. througb effective (ii) to prevcol number of d.ath. and ex- contractplion hy the end of ahe Phln i.e. tensive disabilltjes by constant data 1984·85. with the ultimate objeclive of rtach .. evaluation and r:=searcb in Ibis field; ing 6\J% by 2,000 A,D. CHAITRA 28, 1907 Statement B2 medium irrig~(ion projects under impJe- mentatjoD. But of tbese 4 rnaj{"lr Bnd 15 Eslimal,...'d Birth Raic, Death Rate and medium projects were taken up during the Rale of Natural Incr'las~~ in respect 0/ Sixth Plan period. Tbe details of minor All in..dia for the last 10 years irrigation projects are not maintained at tho Centre. Annual Rate per 1000 Population The tOlli) estimated cost of these pro ... Year Birth Rate Death Rate Rat~ of jecis is about Rs 5,600 crOTes. These pro- , Natural jects would have an irriS81JOn potential of Increase about J:5 M. Ha. on tbeir completion. -~----- 6 major and 3 I medium . projects were 1974 34.5 14.5 20.0 expected to be completed by end of tbe 1975 35.2 159 19.3 Sixth Plan 1976 34.4 15.0 19.4 Biiaspur_Titilu.gatb P.$.ssenger Train Fire at Rengali StatieD on 16.3.1985. 1977 33.0 147 18.3 3640. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI : Will 1978 33.3 14.2 19.1 tbe Minister of RAILWAYS be plcased to 1979 33.7 13.0 20.7 state: 1980 3\7 12.6 21.1 (a) whether tbe Bilaspur-Titilagarh passenger train caught fire at ReogaH Station 1981 33.9 12.5 21.4 in Sambalpur District of Orissa on 16 March. 1985; 1~82 33.8 11.9 cl.9 1983' 33.6 11.9 21-7 (b) if so, the came of tbe fire; and (c) the extent of Joss of life and .rail .. "Provisional way property due to tbe fire? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Irrigation Projects in l\fadhya Pradesh MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS lSHRI MADHAYRAO SCINDIA): (a) and (b) 3639. KUMARI PUSHPA DEYI: Will No, Sir. On 16.3.1915 when tbe Guard or t'le Minister of IRRIGATION AND 333 Up Jbarsuguda-Titilagarb Pas.. nller POWER be pleased to state: opened the parcel van to unload tbe packag.es booked for Rengali Station, he Dotic~d smoke (a) what are the variotts ongoing irri- c:mdltating from, tbe 011 consignments in the g !llon projects under ~lfhpJemeDt.(iDQ in !l;aid parcel van" According to the findiDgs Madbya Prade~h: of Ihe dcpartmealal comm:tle~. Ihe 5moke (b) how many of tbose have been taken was caused by some lighled ci,arette/bidi end up duung the Sixth Plan; left uDmiodfulJy near the oil consignments. (c) th! e50timated COlt of 'those pro- (c) There was no Joss of Jife Or injury ieets; to anybody Tbe cost of damage to raHway propt"rty -has been assessed at Rs. 10;000/_ (d) tbe total bectres or land thar can approximately. be bropabt under irrigation on completion of Open Univenities dltring the SeYentb PraB each of those projects: and 3641. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL: (e) thc progre.. madc in implementa- Will the Minister of EDUCATION be pleased tion of those ,pc()ject:J; ? to ~t.te ~ THE MINISTER OF iRRIO'ATlON ~a) whether ~Go"e{omeb.t are gOing to AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANK,t,RA- estabti!oh 'Open Universities· during· the. NAND) : (a) to (b) if so. the number or such univer- Conversion of Madras..Egmore. Tanjore sitie. and the amount allocated for this Line ''jn_to ~ro8d Gauge purpose; and 3' 43 : SIIR I E. S M PAKEER (e) the other details thereof? MOHAMED): Will tbe Minister of RAIL. WAYS be pleased to state-: THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION (SHRI K.C. PANT): (a) The Central (8) whether Government h~\'e any pro- Government is considering a proposal to posal [0 conVert the Madras·Egmore_Tanjore estab'jsh a National Open University. Metre G.luge line info Broad Gauge; and 1 b) Only one such uQiversity is proposed (to) If so, when (c) Tbe detailed project report for tbe _ (0) It is not pOSSIble to take up tbis National Open University has Dot yet beeD conversion proj~cl due to severse constraint finalised of rc~ources. Enquiry into the Disappearance of [Tran ~ larion j M.V. Kalrali Kosi Canal In Bihar 3642. SHRI T. RASHEER: Will tbe 3644. SHRI AI;IDUL HANNAN Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS- ANSARY : Will tbe Minister of IRRIGA- PUR T be pleased to state: TION AND PO~ER be pleased 10 stale: (a) wbc:ther Government have completed the enquiry into tbe disappearance of M.V. (a) when was tbe work on KOSI Canal Proj~ct Kairali; aDd in BIhar State started; (b) If so, wbal are tbe details in tbis (b) wbetber it i. a fact tbat work OD regard? the project is not progressing satisfactorily and Its scheduled completion tiQilC is already THB MINISTER _ STATE OF THE over; and MINISTRY OP SHIPPJNG AND TRANS- PORT (SHRI Z.R. ANSARI) : (a) Yel. (c) if SOt the steps being taken by tbe Government 10 this maUec and wben tt is (b) A r~r.nal IQve~ti8ation was ~o~ likely to be completed? Guoted into the dllappearanoe of Ibe vessel M. V. 'Kaicall' by the Chief Presidency THB MINISTER OF IRRIGATION Magiltrate, Kottayam. According to tbe AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA_ invostigatioa rCJ)or't M.V. ·KajraH~ is pre- NAND) : (a) to (e) Work in tbe Eastorn tlUmod to blve s'IDit it! deep seas due to Kosi Canals system was started in 1959 and advclse weather conditions. There is DO that on tbe Weltern Kosi Calla} in 1971 .• reasOQ to·belietc tbat tbe vessel 'Wa§ unsea- worthy in aay way at tbe lime of departure Tlie Ea,terD Kosi Canal System bas beeD from Mormugao on 30tb JUDe, 1979. It wa. mostly completed by now. Tbe conltruction manned by co.n;utent of.d.;;~rs aDd crew and scbedule of Western Kosi CaDal bid 10 be it WA'I provided with th~ (elevent life. savlD8. revised. The State Government is advised oavlg!l.tion.al diS'trolS and camunication from time to time to allocate morc fuads equipmeot. A ,cordiol to evidence ,recorded. aDd other resources to cQmpl.cte the s.:.beme the carao or Iro[J are on board was properly expedit iously. The Projecf works -are also loaded and well distributed in all tbe bold .. being manitorrd a& State ltvel a. wc:ll ~s by and tbe['C wat no owe IOl.diol. tbe Central Water Commission. 201 Written Answers CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) 202 [Ellyfish] studies and reseatlZb work in Science and ~ccbnology and EngioeerirJg; aDd W. H. O. Reptort on Drinking (b) if So. wbether Government propose 3645. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE te take steps to estabJisb an 'Indian Institute 'PAtIL: Will tbe Minister of SOCIAL of Tecbnolo gy' in Kerala ? AND WOMEN'S WELFARIl be pleased 10 state: THE MINIS MER OF EDUCATION (SHRI K. C. PANT): (a) and (b) The (a) whetber a WHO report bas pointed Indian Institutes of Technology are national out Ibat drinking (liquor) habit is on the institutes providlng facilities for edu'CatioD, -cise in d~velopiDg countries; training and research .. in engineering and tecbnology at tbe bigbest level and have (b) whether the report has covered an All India cl1aracter These institufes India; are not set up On a State·wise basis. At present~ tbet"e is nO proposal before the (c) if so, the findinls of this report; Government to establish an Indian Institute and of Tecbnology in Kerala. (d) what is GovernmcoCs own assels- DoobllDg of Rail Lilies I.. Korala ment in this regard? 3647. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Minister of RAILWAYS be pl ....d 10 MINISTRY OF SOCIAL AND WOMEN'S state: WELFARE (SHRIMATJ MARAGATHAM CHANDRA!.EKHAR): (a) to (d) No (a) which ar. the rail liDes presently report bas so far bern received by the being doubJed in Kerela; Government. (b) .be funds allotted 10 eacb of tb .... Proposlli for Indian Institute of Technology lines during the Sixth Plan; .. Keral. (c) out of tbe allotted funds how much 3646. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will tbe has sjnce been .pent on each line; and Minister of EDUCATION be pleased to (d) w'ten each hne i. expected to be 1Itate: completed? r:i .~ ;.' Q. '0 ~ ~ '0 ~ : .2 "0 ~ e 1c. < gj T I I I I i I I I I ) I '" I I I I I i'" I '"o I -I e 1 :- I I I I I I I .~ I::;; I 5 ,I :::. ! I I I ....: 1 t I Writ teil Answers CHAITRA 28. 19J7 (SAKA ) Written Answer-s 206 Modernllatlon of Krishna Delta System (a) whether It is a fact that in a number of Central Government Health Scbeme l648. SHRI V, SOBH"'NADREE· Dispensaries in New Delhi/Delhi, Fire Ex .. SWARA RAO : Will the Mini.ter of IRRI- tinguishers have not been provided so far GATION AND POWER' be pleased to 3Dd if so, tbe reas~ns therefor; atate : (b) number and location of dispensaries (a) Ibe total extent of Ayacut under where this facHity has not so rar been pro- Krishna Ayacut built at Vijayawada and vided; and p.lanDed by" Sir Arthur Cotton; ·(e) by when Government propose to (bj 1M total ex~ent of Ayacut under provide.. fiees Extinguishers in all the dispen- Prakasam Barrage at Vijayawada; saries of aU system of medicines ? (c) whetber any proposal to modernise THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tbe Krishna Delta System' was studies and DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI -estimated; YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (d) the detail of ,tbe study and tbe esti- (b) A list sbowing tbe ~umber and mated cost; location of despensaries where this facility have not 50 far been provided ;s eoclosed. ,oj whether World Bank was approa- al statement., .cbed to finance the modernisation, and if so, jts rt"'8ction; and (c) Necessary action in this re~pect has been· initiated. (fl ifnol, how the Government is going to finance the programme? Slatemeat THE MINISTER OF 'IRRIGATION I. Chitra Gupla Road. AND POWER (SHRI B. SHANKARA- NAND) : (a) 2,02 lakh hectares. 2. Gole Market II. (b) 4.85 lakh bectares. 3 • Gbaziabad. • (c) Ye., Sir. ~. GurgaoD. (d) The modernisation project provides 5. Faridabad. for tbe items like te modelJing of canals, selective lining of canals, conltructioa of 6. Gole Markel (Homeo), additional regulators and cross drainage works and improvements to tete-communi .. 7. North Avenue (Ayur). cation facilities. The modernisation scheme 8. aims at stabliaing the in-i"gation in tbe exi-st- Gale Market (Ayur). ing ayacul of 4 85 lakh hi! And also envi- 9. Sarojini Nagar (Unani). sagel creat·ion of additional pOlential of 018 lakh ba. Tbe proposal i!l: e!timated to cost 10. ~ ,K. Puram (Ayur). RI, 220.42 crore•• II. R,K. Puram (Homeo). (e) The scbeme has been proposed for inclus!QD under World Bank assistance. The 12. Ashok Vibar. Bank is yet to tecbno-econo~icaUy appraise 13. Chll1ldoi Chowk. the scheme for acceptancc. 14· Darya Gaoj_ (f) Doe. not arise. IS, Delhi Cant, . C,G,H.S. DlspODsaries where Fire Extingaisben Facility is Dot AYailable 16, G,KG. 3619. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: 17. lnderpuri. Will Ibe Minister of HEA L 1 HAND FAMILY WELFARE be pleased to stale: 18. Janallpuri 1 « 11. Written A"6wer-, 201 W, ittell AiP!'w~" APRIL 18, 1985 208 19. King,way Camp. (c) Does not arise in "jew of answer .10 (a) above. 20. Laxmi NagaI. Udng Ma (a) Wbetber it i. a fact tbal a number Plan for Mental Heath Education ud of represeotalions' were received by the Protection of Meutal Health at Grassfool COHS/her Minis'try during the period Level 1 Jllly, 1980 to 30 June, 1983 from the 3652. SHRIMATI USHA CHOUDHARI: resideDts of Pusbp Vihar; New DelhJ~ for SHRI JAOANNATH PATTNAIK: Will tbe opening of COHS Vnani Dispensary tbe MInister of HEALTH AND FAMILY· in tbat area; WELFARE be pleased 10 state: (b) If so, wbether Government propose (a) whether it ;s a fact that mentally to open CGHS Uoani Dispensary in tbat retarded persons are in a huge Dumber in area in tbe near future: and India; aod (e) If so, by wben and if nOI. tbe (b) if SO~ the Government's plan to reason for opening CGHS dispensaries ~for implement programmes for mental health Unani system in tbose area s from where education and the &teps taken to rebabili .. the facility was demanded mucb more after tate mentally retarded persons and to protect • the demands of Pu~bp Vjb81 residents? mental health at the 8rass·roots leveJ? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTR OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRI DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH (SHRl YOGENDRA MAKWANA): (a) No. Sir. YOGENDRA MAKWANA) ~ (a) No, Sir. (b) AI pre.cDt Ibere is no proposal lor (b) Tbe facilities for . mental be.lIb opening of an Unani Ditpensary in Pusbp pallent. are 210}9 teds in 46 mental bospi- Vibar. tals, aDd 2000 10 3000 bed. in leoeraj 209 Written An$",~"J' CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) 210 and ttching hospitals. Ps,ychiatry units and (a) whether Government is aware ot mental bospilals4,also operate out-patient any imbalance between hydel and thermal cJlDics \\.hich are 'he main sourceS of generation of power h1 the tOlal energy gene... mental health beIvi(cs JD mo:-t cities. A ration picture of the COUDUy; plan bas been drawn up for imp!emenla- tion during tht: Seventh. Five-Year Plan (b) if so, """hat steps are being taken to period (subject to availability of r-esources) remedy the situation; whi~h aims at providing basic mental bcal1h facilities througb communily out- (c) whelher in this contextt it bas pro.. reach progrmrnes. Ministry of Social and posed early completion of four major hyde! '\'omeo's Welfare have the fol1owiflg pro- projects in Sikkirn, Jammu aod Kasbmir .. grammes for the rebabLlitation of the Himachal Pradesh and U.P. ; and mentally retraded:- (d) if 'a, the detail. tbereof 1 0) Scheme of assistance to vollotary crgan\~ations in the area of di~abjed. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI ARUN (2) Scheme of ,cbolarsb·p. for dis.tled NEHRU) : (a) to (d) While botb tbe bydro chiidren. and thermal sources are being developed, b~en (3) Spt:ciaJ Fmplcr) rretJ[ Fx(h~nge and thne has decl;ne in the proportioD of Special Cells in Employm~n( Excbaofea. hydro capacity Presently, the jostalled hydro capacity accounts for about 34% of (4) District Rehabilitation Centre the total installed capacity io tbe country. Scheme. All efforts are being made to accelerate Ltilisation of Oil Tankns for Transportation the tempo of l::_ydro development. However, of W3~er to Arab Countries the main constraint has been the limited availability of financial resources. 365'. SHRI HU;,SAIN DALWAI: Will lhe Minister of SHIPPING AND ProposaJ to Aholisb Public School TRAr--SPORT be pleased to state: System in the Country (a) whether there is any proposal 3655. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA, before GoyernmeDt to utilise oil tankers on Will the Minister of EDUCA nON be plea.ed their return journey to Middle East countries to state: for transp0ltin~ \l.uter from India to th.:: Arab counaies which are facing shortage of water; (a) the ou:nber of public school in the and country, which are running on Government aid; and (b) whether Government are aware that such a proposal has already been im- (b) wh~lber there is any proposal under pit mented by Japan? Government's consiratioD to abolish pubHc school system in the country? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS- THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION PORT (SHRI Z R. ANSARI): (a) No such (SHRI K.C. PANT) : (a) The desired proposal has bc:en received in the recent information is being collected and will be Past. laid on the Table of the Sabba in due course. ('o) No. Sir. (b) No, Sir. Jmbalance between Thermal and Hydel Generation Floods in Frabma putra 3654. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN 3656. SHRI B.V. DESAI: Will the SINHA: Will tbe Minister of IRRIGATION Minister of IRRIGATION AND POWEll AND POWER be pleased to state: be pleased to srate : 211 Written Answerl APRIL 18, 1985 21Z MR. SPE"AKER: We will See one by [Placed;n Libra,y. See No. LT-714/85] one. Nuiji('atioll under Dock Wllrkers (Regulation and Emplopment Act~ Annual Adl1lI'nis~ 12.05 hr. (ration Report of Calcutta Port~Trllst for PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE J9S.-84 Audit-Report and Annual Accounts of New A1all~alore Port Trust (Eng,;,h) Jor 1983-84, elc. Amu.:a' 4c('o[l/rt.~ and Audit Reports of Visra Bharti, Shalltilliketan and Regional Engeneering THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE en/left"_ Shril1agar for J98Jw84. MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS- THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION PORT (SHRI Z. R. ANSARI) : I beg to lay (SHRI K. C. PANT): I beg to lay 0n Ibe on the Table : Table : (1) A copy of 'he Visak.bapalnam Un· (I) (i) A copy of the Annual A.ccounts (Hindi and Englilh versions) of Visva- registered Dock Workers (Regulation Bharati, Santiniketan. for tbe year 1983·84 of Employment) Amendmenl Scbeme. together with Audit Report thereon. 1985, (Hmdi and English VerSion,) published in Notifi=ation No. S O. (jj) A statement (Hindi and English 675 in Gazelle or India dated Ibe 161h ver110nsJ showing reasonl for delay in iaying February, 1985, under &CellOn 8A of the: papers mentioned at (i) abovc. the Dock \Vorkers (Regulation of Emvloyment) Act, 1948, [Placed in lPlaced in Llbra,.y. See No. LT-722 '85] Lib,ary. See No LT·725/85]. (2) A copy of the Annual Accounts (Hmdi and English versions) of the Regional (2) A copy of the Aonual Administration Engineering Col1ege. Srinagar. Kashmir$ Report (Hindi and EDg1ish versions) lor the year 19',3·84 together with Audit of the Calcutta Port Trust for the Report thereon. year 1983·84, [Placed in Lib,a,y. Se~ No. LT.726j85o'. IP:uced in Library See No.LT.723j85,' Annual Repor I and Audired A(counts (3) (iJ A copy of Annual Accounts (Hindi 01 and Review on Central Council on and English versiolls) of the New Homo.opa/hy, New Delhi Jor 1983·84 and MaogaJore Port Trust for the year a Sla'~ment on delay in laying there 1983·84 togetber witb Audit Rep!'rt paper.•. thereon under sub·section (2) or section 103 of Ihe Major Pori THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND Trusts Act, 1983. FAMILY WELFARE (SHRUIATI MOHSINA KIOWAI): I beg to lay on (ii) A statement (Hindi and Engfisb tbe Table: versions) showing rea!onS for delay 215 Papers Laid APRIL 18, 1985 Papers Laid 216 [ Sbri Z. R. Ansar; 1 English versions) pUblished in Notifica- in layin& the papers mentioned at tion No. F. 4 (21)/85·Fin (G) in Delhi (I) above. [Placed in LIbrary. See Gazette dated the 8tb April. 1985, No. LT-727/85J. under section 72 of the Delhi Sales Tax Act, l~n5. [Placed in Library. (4) A copy of the Supplementary A.ree. See No. LT-731/85]. ment (Hindi and English verslons) entered into with tbe Government of (2) A copy of Notification No. G S R ,Uttar Pradesh uDder section 8 of the 348 (E, (Hindi and English verllon~) National Highways Act, 1956 under published in Gazeth~ of India dated section )0 of the said Al;:t. [Placed in the 6th April. 1985, containing Corri ... Llb'a'Y. See No. LT-728/8SJ. gendum to Notification No. 33l (E) dared the 30th March. 1985~ under (5) (i) A copy of the Punjab· Motor section 159 of the Customs Act, 1962. Vehicles (Fourth Amendment [Plac.fd in Library. See ,Va. Rules, 1984 (Hindi and English LT.732/85] . versions) publisbed in Notification No. G S R 88 in Punjib Govern- No;fjicatiolls UII.ler POSl GI·adu (I) A copy or the Delbi Sales Tax (Third Amendment) Rules, 1985 (Hindi and 217 Election to Commilfees CHAiTRA 28. 1907 (SAKA) EleCI;oll' 10 Commiltelll 218 22.07 bra. elect, in such manner as (he speaker may direct, two members [English] of from among themselves to ELECTIONS TO COMMITTEES serve as members of Ibe Govern- ing Body of tbe Indian Cunci! of (i) Court of the Aligarh Muslim University. Medical Research:" . THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION MR. SPEAKER: The qu.stion is : (SHRI K. C. PANT) : I beg to move tbe "That in pursuance of items (11) and following: (lR) of rule 15 and rule 18 (2) of tbe Rules. Regulations and Bye ... "Thlt in pursuance of sub·clause laws of the Indian Council or (xxiv) of Clause (I) of Statute 14 Medical Research, the members of the Statutes of tbe Aligarb of this House do proceed to Muslim University, the members elect, in such manner as the of tbis House do proceed to Speaker may direct, two members eject, in such manner as the from among· themselves to serve speaker may direet. lix members as members' of the Governing from among tbemselves to serVe Body of tbe Indian Council of as members of the Court of the Medical Research:' Aligarh MusHm University for a term of three years. The The motion H'QJ adopted. members so elected shall not be the employees of the Aligarh (iii) JVatlor.ai Shipping Boo,-d Muslim University." THE MINISTER OF STAlE OF THE MR. SPEAKER: The questioD IS : MINISTRY OF SHIPPING AND TRANS- PORT (SARI Z. A. ANSARI): I beg to "That in pursuance of liub-clause move tbe folIo ....ving :- (xxiv) of Clause (I) of Statute 14 of tbe Statutes of tbe Aligarh "That in pursuance of sub·seclioD (2, Muslim University, the members (a) of Section 4 of tbe rvlercbant of this Hou~e do proceed to Shipping Act. 1958, the members eject, in such manner as the of th is House do proceed to Speaker may direcl, ~ix. m.embers eJect, in such manner as tbe from among themselves to serve Speaker may direct t four as members of the: C0urt of the members from among thern,eWcs~ AIigarh Muslim University for a to serve as members of the term of three years. The National Shipping Board, subject members so elected shall not be to tbe other provisions of the the employees of tboe Aligarh said Act," Muslim University". MR. SPEAKER: The ques.tion is : Thtl mation WQS adoptf!d. "That in pursuance of sub~section (2) /ii) Gm,'erning Body of the lndit n ('ounci' (a) of Section 4 of tbe Mercbant 0/ J\1edical Resaerch Shipping Act~ 1958, the members of tbis HOllse do proceed to THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND elect, in such manner as the FAMILY WELFARE (SHRIMATI Speaker may direct, four MOH5INA KIDWAI) : I beg to move: members from among tbemselvet:, to serve as members of the "That in pursuance of items (J 7) and National Shipping Board, subject (18) of rule 1) and mi. 18 (2) of to the other provisioos of the the Rufes, Regulations and Bye- said Act" laws of rhe Jnd;ao Councilor Medical Research. the members The motion was adllpted. of this House do proceed to 219 _Hatters U,Jdur Rule 377 APRIL 18, 1985 Matias Under Rule 377 220' [Tran~/atioJl] the ecoDomy of the State relulting in a compound rate. of annual growth of over 20' SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY (Midn •• per cent per annum without substantial in- pore) : You have listed the discussion under crease in its generation capacity. Further, Rule 193 at tbe end. out of the total capacity of Hydro and Thermal system in tbe State, S9 per cent is MR. Sf EAKER : It is done like tbi •. accounted for by the Hydro-Project. and 41 per cent by the Thermal Projects. The pre- SHRl NARAYNN CHOUBEY: Not>ody dominance of Hydro-Projects aggravates lhe remains in tbe House at that lime. fJucluation in the availability of power. In years of deficit rainfall there has been short- MR. SPEAKER : This is thell" responsi- fall in the leneratlon of pO'her. The situa- bility. We shall do .t like tbis tbat Cour to tIon has become very crjtjc~J tbis year five Members from this side may speak necessitating 75 per cent power cut for beavy and four to five Members from that side and power industries. The domestic con- mal'speak. sumption and even the essential sl:rvices like water supply al e not spared. [English? Why Ihould they not remain? In order to save Orissa from sucb power crisis and also facilitate this poverty ridden 1 bey sbould be tbere. It is tbeir moral backward State to marcb forward along Ibe responsibility to sit here. If tbey don't, J path of progress and prosperily ill estimated do not like tbat. rtquirement is 1860 MW of power at tbe end of the Seventh Five Year Plan. The They should show an awareness to .be establishment of two 'SUpel Thermal poYorcr .iluation and I hope tbe members will realise slatioDS, ODe at Talcher and another at J B the importance of it. Valley during thiS Plan period IS quite inevitable. SHRr NARAYAN CHOUBEY: You teU them aho I would, therefore, urge upon the Minjster of Energy and the Planning Commission (0 MR. SPEAKER: teB everyboJy jn have a realistic approach in accepting the the House. Seventh Plan energy requirement of OCJssa as 1860 MW and provide funds for the Talcher SHRl NARAYAN ('HOUBEY: Includ· Supor Tbermal Plant and tbe IB Valley in, tbem. Therm:lj Proje.;t for making them o~~[a tional during the Seventh Plan itself. MR. SPEAKER: Including tbem and you too. (ii) Demand for iIlSli"UCtiflV the D.D.A. 10 annual ils resillation passed earlier requiring the D.C.M. 10 shift rhl' .Uals to nOIl-conformhlg arca. 12.09 brs. SHRl LALIT MAKEN (South Delhi) [Efig/i,h] The closure notice of Delhi Cloth Mills has created panic amidst 8 thousand textile MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 workers and SO thousand people who are tbe inbabitants of the labour colony_ This pro- ,rr" !treed to pro ride funds jar Talcher blem has arisen because of the resolution 5uper Thermal Plam and I.B. ,alley Thermal Profect of Ons.w. pasled by D.D.A on 1st February, 1983, in wbich tbe D.D.A. bas allowed D,C.M_ SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI managem~Dt to shift the Mills. On the one (Deogarh): Orissa is presently passing hand the D.D.A. bas given permission for through an acute Power crisis The State the sbiftingy on the otber band it refuses to- whicb did DOl fac~ aDY power sbortage till give alternative piece of land to D. C. M. 1919-80 is DOW having a dillcit of about 200 Althougb Delbi Administration bas decided MW This is due to ahe bigh rate of indus- not to give permjlsiof) of closure, the pro- uia' and agricultural growth registered in bJem will come to an. end only when Ihe '211 Mntt~" Under Rule 377 CH~ITRA 28. 19Q7 (SAKA) Matte" U.,4.' Rule 377 222 'said resolutions are withdrawn or cancelled. (h-) Needfo,. setting up of a Telev ision " tb'!lrefore, request tbe works and Housing Transmission ToA.'er at Lakhimpu·· Minister to give instruction to D.D.A. to Klteri in Uttar Pradesh. .annul tbe said resolutions. If immediate steps are Dot taken, tbe problem will not SHRIMATI USHA VERMA (Kberi); Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to draw the atteotioD femaill coofined to D.C.M. but will i,.vol\,c of the House to the need for seltiDg up a Birl~ Mill. aod Swataolra Bharl Mill. because they are also situated in non-confor- T. V. Tower in districf Lakhimpur (Kheci) which is my constituency. Tbe populatiOn ming arca., This will lead to unemployment of tbis district is more than one Jakh. [ Sluimali Geeta Muk~er;eel [Eng/ish] urgent mea lures for relieving the \\-ater (vii) Nt.d to povid« a 220 KV power scarcity can be taken in a big way. lin~ from Ramogundam Thermal Pow~r PToj~CI of NTrC to WaTongal ci~t"ict 01 Andhra Pradesh. SRRI C. JANGA REDDY (Hanam. (I\) Shortage 01 t!iectricilY ,in Rajas- konda): Wrangal district is entirely depen- than and ne~a to ruq. th~ two un;t! of dent on well irrigation foc which eleC1ricity , he Atomic Powa Plant at Kola pro- is the prime requinment. There is a trc~ r~tly 01 abo supply power from mendolls potential for energisa[ion of lcnga- tion weBs to meet tbe demand from the Singrauli Thermal Power Plant, agriculturists as there are no major tanks 01"" canal irrigation facilities or any olhe( water SRRI VIRDHI CHANDE JAIN resources. ]n "",atangal Dis'l iet a]one Ihere (Barmer) : Rajasthan State is passing: are about 3(\000 agricultural serVIces pending through a .severe power crisis. Tbe second for release as at the end of 1984-85 (applied unit of the Atomic Power Station is not by farmers but not .released) for want of working properly since September. 19~4. proper voltage. It remains closed for 15 to 20 days in a montb. The first unit was recommissioned Apart from the demand for the energisa_ on 1.2.85 after it remained closed for three tion of new weBs, stabilisation of power years, but It has not stabilized yet. Rajasthan supply to tbe already energised wells is most bas not been given its share of power important as it is the life-line for the ryots from Singrauli Super Thermal Plant since in luis district, For the Jast fi\-'o years. low 1984. A short supply of 574 lakh units voltages are prevailing in these alcas result- bas been received from tbis Super Thermal ing in burning of motors in every vil1age Plant since Janua~y, 1985, Even from '"'-bleh hAS caused J[repal&ble loss to tbe Satpura Plant, somet..:.mes the supply of farmers to the tUDe of R~_ 11 crOles. power is short and sometimes it to; normal. Tbe supply is more at the time wbfn it is According to the past planning, the load Dot needed. estimated for WarangaJ dtstrkt was 40 MWs peak as in 1984·85 condftiom', but in reaUl,,- Due to this power crisis, the farmers load requirement today is 87 M Ws peak do not get power supply for more than six with load.restrictions. Vkewise, in all the hours a day. Power cut is also being northern Telcngana I~ therefore, request the Central Govern~ At present, Warangal gels supply from mInt to rUD both the unns of the AtomiC Ramagundam as well as Kotbagudam where... Power Plant of KOla smoothly. Rajasthan from Warangal il at tbe tall and there is should be give its due share of power from heavy load demand Hence, the demand of Siograu!i Supc.r Thermal Plant. The Central the people to have a 220 kv. S, S. at Government should also given sufficient Warangal by erecting 220 kv line from power to Rajasthan from its reserve share in FTPC, Ramagundam needs to be imme- tbe Singrauli Plant sn as to help tb. Slate diately met witih 132 kv. network of line •. to overcome lbe water and industrial crisis. connected to ~ach taJl1& headquarttrs~ 22.5 A/alters (._'nda Rule 377 CHAlTRA 2£. 1937 (S>\KA) Demands for Grants 226 (General) 1985-86 (vii;:) Need to ;rc'ra~e the OfrOll'Il the Harijans for the marrrages of their 0/ hOIl.· e butldi,·g loan for Ihe daughters and for medical treatment The "oh:.elt.:~·L\ poor Government had been providine a ffDancial assistance of Rs. 5,000/- for marriages of SHRI P. PENCHALLIAH (Ntllore): the daugbten and in the event of illness Sir~ food , shelter and. clothing are tbe baiic also an assi'tance of Rs. 5.000/· was beiDg necessities of man. Majorily of the people given for medical treatment, but I am very in this country live below tbe poverty line. sorry to say that tbis financial assistance From iime 10 time, many programmes have bas now been reduced to Rs. 1,000/- only been taken' up by the succe!.sive Govern- whereas, keepiDg in view tbe present tim~, ments to improve the conditions of the t~is amount should have b(en eobanced. pOOl. Therefore, I request GoverDment that Pro\"jsion of ~belter under different for lbe betterment of the social, economic scbem-:s has also been taken up under and health conditions of lakbs of these poor various programmes. At present HUDCO HOlrijans, if it is not possible to increase is extending a loan of Rs. 3,000/- for con- the above financial assistance 9 it should structing a house to the hOllseles5 poor. at least be allowed to continue at Rs. The State Government contributes another 5,000/ .. ;as at present, so that the 20·Point Rs. 3,000/-. Out of the tot.11 amoullt thus Programme could be implement in letter available. the beneficiaries, i.c., the house.Jess and spirit. poor, have to make contribu'ion of Rs. 311/ .. towards beneficiary deposit. Tbus a poor man win be left with a paltry sum of 12.21 bIS. Rs. 5,689,' only This amount is inad('quate to l"',uiJd a hut, leave alone buibJing a house. [£ngli~h] The cost or crment, steel. bricks and labour, etc .. h [ Sbri B. Sbankaranand ] per year 'Which we have to produce. During tbe year I,}S-.I·85 it IS f"xpeclfd Ihat the food House took much more time than WdS production would be of tbe same order. given for the discussion of tbe Demands The food reqUirement at the end of tbe of my Miniltry. As a matter of fact, if J Seventh Pian is expected to be of the order can eo tbrough the cut motions tbey have of 190 to 200 milJion tonnes and by the turn moved~ I could lee that tlley are Dot neces~ of the ccntury the food requirement of tbe sarily cut motions in the sense that they country will be 250 to 300 million tonnes. are so critical about tbe policy of the I am gIVing the~e figUfC'S ro tbe House just Government or the procedure or anythlDg to sbo~ the: dlm~nSIl)n of problem In order about the impiementdtioD of the scheme. to acb'eve merely food 1arget·l::ilvr alone By and large, I would say that the cut otht"f thlOgs·wc need power and \later. The motions are in the form of requests to the demand is gigantic. I W.:lnl to take the G Jvernm~nt either demandmg certain new House into coofid~nce that tbe Demands of O[oj:cts in their areas: or tbe implementation this Ministry which arc placed before the certain ongoing projects or the demand House for their a pproval and lanction are for some central a<;slstance to the States. more than justified. Perhaps, the House These are the cut motions that the Members woul.! like to sanction more had we got it have preferred to move. feom tbe Plamllog Commission. This IS what I expected from thl! Planning Com_ Ours is a counrry of 7UO million people mission aDd for any project whetber in irfliatioD Slf, for water we need rains; and what or 10 power, tne gt:'slatlon period is consi- js the total rainfall of the conutlY 1 The derably Jong in the sense that hardly we annual rainfall can bl! placed at 1000 mm or can achieve the results before 4 or 5 years about 40 In;;h.:-s. But the Members are well and some-timeS some pro.feets take mOre aware that this is; not tbe rainfall JJI every than hJ ye-ars. The population is not 80ing part of the co:..lOtry. There are arid zones to stabilise by tne turn of the c:.untry. in the c.:'tuntry There are drought· prone Perhaps projections are made (or the stabi- areas In t~e country where we hardly have lisatlon of the popula'ion by tbe year 20(,0. 100 mm Jr Bbout 4 inches of rainf311 In a But what Will be the demand of [his increa- year. In our country there are areas ""here sing population on th!' resources of the we have the h.ghcst and also the lowest country? On the O'1C hand we il.1ve to rainfall. OLlrs IS a country where the longesl develop human resources and for develop- fivers like the Gangas, the Yamuna, tbe ment of human resources we need all tbe Godavari dfld the Brahmputra are flowing f3.ciliries for economic and ,"ocial develop- towards East. \II/eo;[ and South.. Not only ment. \Ve haVe a1s") keep (he f>let in v,ew the rivers but also the people, 5.olely der-end t'lat we mUH ~C:l:lieve growt'l soci.al JIJ..,tice. on tbe. ral"s. There are areas where there Thes! are th'! b..lSIC P, inc:plcs. for develop- is drougtlt dnd flood is the ':!.ame State at m~nt acliviuc:S e~p.::cia~;y In the core sector one 8'ld the ~3..me !:Jrne.. Tbere are areas of power a'ld I[rigjJj 'In, where wJt~r·J':Jgginl.l is a problem and there are areas where w:Her 5carclty lS a probl-em. Sir, the population projection by the beginning of Seventh Plan would be more These are problems which are before the than 70c) milllO;) and the rate of growth of country-the- pr0h:ems are how to ffiJ.nilge the POPU1..tHOD is about 2 per ce'lt. Thanks to flood". how to utilize the IlyelS. huw to the policies of [his government, we h.ive be~n contral the fivers, etc, 'Rp.'er control' has able to redu::e the growth rate to 2 per cent. become DO' only for meeling !he problems of SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: There seepage. Water managen"'cnt is also for have been various sU8gestions by Members flood control. \\ atec manag..:.ment is also dunng the debuc that the we\t~fjowiDg river for purposes of lirlgation and drinking wafers should be turned to tbe e2lst~ that water. There are various other requirements water should be lifted and given the southern of waier for various purposes. for industry. Sta.te~ Mcmbert; from Tamil Nadu, Karna- for household and 50 aD. taka, Kerab and are member from other States also, have said that we should attempt For all these things, we need a national linking of the rivers. the south and north Pl1JiCY On water. riverS4 There have been various attempts jn the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: But the past to study tbe problems and rc:quirement Minister IS telling us. it is uneconomical. It of irrigation whether it is ground water, may be uneconomical now; but in future, it flood yatec or ,surface water and so OD. may be economical. There have been various attempts made in the past years; people with vision sometimes SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: When widely thought and imagined ahout linking we think of_ Ganga with Cauvery or havlDg grand canals SHRI E. A YY APU REDDY: May 1 and aU sorts of things. Attempts have been juSE intecrupt ? Dr. K. L. Rao did not made right from time immemoCial tlJl DOW consider it either uneconomical or to use water for the benefit of human oeiDgs. impossible or not feasible to link the The questio!l i ... , how to make the best use Ganga with the Cauvery_For the first time of the available water resources. There now we are bearing through you that the have been attempts made in thIs direction, Governmcnt is of the view that it is not as 1 said. Dr K L Rao imagined Jinking economical or it is 1I0t feasible. Actually I the GaDg]. with the Cauvery. I wiII come don', think so In future~ some day or the tv thi .. <1 lillie l'Htr. To hav~ ad 1u-ucpth other, we Will have tn link the Ganga with slUdy means going into the question of the Cauvery. O[herwis~ we canDot solve harnessing the water which is at present this problem at all ... u. flooding Ihe norlbern parI of tbe country briDgiog mIsery to the people. while people MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ddnking arc leading misearab'e Jives in tbe south for water and everytbing else also will be lolved want of water and in some otber regions of by it. the Cl"'untrv 1t was found fhat the id~a of linking tbe Ganga with tbe Cauvery is Dot SHRI B_ SHANKARANAND : The hon. economically feasible: in the sense that the Member is not telling a new thi[lg to mc. arnowlt of money required to iifr the entire bulk of the water beyond the Vindbyas was SHRI E_ AYYAPU REDDI: We are not economically 'feasible The idea was given to understand by the hon. Minister given up. There were otber attcmpls also. that be is of the view that it is not econo... J will come to it a lillIe ]~h·T. I think the: mically feasible to-link Kaveri with Gane:a. House will agree With me that in view of You must have a perspective view before these variom, dimensions wilh rrgard to you. water resource development we Deed a national policy on water. We have to SHRI B_ SHANKARANAND: I told formulate such a national policy which I tbe bon. Member that this was the idea of hope to do within a reasonable time':. Dr. K_ K. Rao. SHRI D_ P. YADAV (Monghyr): Will SHRI E. A YY APU REDDI : This idea it b~ in this session? Will he be able to has generally been accepted and that was a bring it up in 'his session? It will be useful welcome way of solving problem of the ror your State also. country. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: He is SHRI B. SHANKARANAl'-D : Without giving, any disrcspect to aDY bon. Member of thJS 231 Demands for Grants APRIL 18, 1985 Demandsfor Grants 232 (General,1985-86 (Genera/) 1985-86 [ Shn B. Snankaranand 1 House mformed as to what is the pOSitIOn, the phys;cal po~itlon rt:garding the medium House, I would like to submit that no doubt and major U Clgation pr<;:ljects. Against the Dr. K.L. Rao was a person who knew the total geographical area of .bout 329 million problem of water and irrigation. But there hectares only 18j million hectares have after experts had gone deep into the matter been regarded to be cultivable area, The and the problem has beep studied from all total cropped area is about 174 million aspects and they say tbat it is Dot econo~ hectares. The ultimate irriaation potential mically reasible. from all snUf ces IS eSlima~ed !I tIllS Now, a survey 00 water resources of the miJIion h~c[ares out of which 58.5 ml!1i-~n country has been made, It is assessed at hectares are from major and medtum 178 million hectare meters of whicb only projects and t"c remaioios is from minor 67 m:lIioD b.ecrare meters, that is, less than ircigalloQ projecI1, The perspective of 40% are economically utiJisable due to lack irrigation de .... elopment envisages Ibe creation of luitable storage sites, The utilisable or entire irrjgatlon potential by the curo ground water resources are estimated at 4l of tbe century. million hectare meters Thus the total usabJe resources are about J09 miilioD ha:tare This caBs fur the deveJopIT!.ent of metres wilh an ultimate irrigation potential irrigaTion at tbe rate of seven million hec- or ahout 130 million hoctares. As 1 told tares per Plan for major and medium projects, The financial requiremeots for you, due tl] topographical and geographical limitations not more tban half of the culti- such a thing i.;;, we could spend about Rs. vable areaS can be provided with irrigational 7446 crore! in 30 years from 1951 to 19 Sir I as I said, there bas been not only 8)9J ... rtln:O;:, againrt which about Rs. 76!2 uneven rainfall but there is UDcertam [ainfael crOTes, would be spenr Smce the commence- in the country They are very often occurr- mtlot of planned development In 1951 till ing in tbose ar~as which are dorught-prone toe begining of the Sixth Five Year Plan, areas. 205 major and 900 medium irrIgation projects hive been taken up for execution. Of th('se~ Fortunately. we have b.:eo able to 29 major and 469 medium projects have create food stoc:k~ w;ll;11 are suffiCient to been completed by rhe beginning of the maintain the peopJe of th;s country aod Slxth Plan. A few major and medium nor a o;;iagle life is loH because of starvation projecfs h:lVe been laken up durir.g the Sixth or 0'1 account of famine 10 this cJunty PJan. 51 major and 165 medium projects th.,'..Ig'l su,;h things :..JS,!j [0 h.ippen before are II kly to be completed, bringing the Independence. Sir.. thiS is the r~ason why total ilumbc-r of completed projects to SO the u::::e.;s.ity of CG1:o::rv.l I ..m of water ath~s. major and 634 medium projects We have to c.Jn:;erv,! It. Th'! W3.ter which. c:Jm.!s from tho: sky anJ fJ,J.v5 to the !OO~a One of [he problems coming ill the has to be d"tJioed wher,,:vl!r pos~ib!e and way of orderly development of medium and wlto whatever economically feasible proJecls major projects is taken up of ;00 rndny we h3.ve to store th:: water and for conser- paojects and thus spreading the T('sources. vjng this wlter. I:lig, storage capacity is During the deb:lte, we cou1d bear the a:;;::ry requlIed Ttle to-tal ~tDrage c.t.paclty Inclu. demands of certain members In regard to dmg small 'J.nk~ is a~~esseJ t1.l be at about delayed implementation of certain projects 16 million hectare meters. Further projt"cts for want of resources They have been with an efieclive capacity of ov~r 7 million demanding a~s.istance from Ibe Cenfre, Sic. hectare metres are u'lder coost~uction. water belllg OJ State !liubje'cts the States have Althougb thiS is a commendable progress. to flOd the resources In tbeir Plans. Of it faih short of the requirements of the course, thoul'!h we are not giving as!;o;:.tance bulk of the Wlter re<;ource~ to be utilised. project_wise to any State, still grants and loans are granted to States. But 11 I~ for the Sir, I D 'the regard, what I found out is this. Certain found instances where in our attempt 10 cleac States. in their en.&busiasm. may be on the projects, certain projects are revised not .account of certain political considerations. onCe or twice but tbrice. _ So. in the for- attempt all Ihe . projects tbat are suggested mulation of cl projecr, the basjc formulation fa thJir various legislatures, whether the itse if bas taken many years by which tbe projects happen to be reasonably fcasi ble ociginal project should bave been completed ,or not feasible. They auempc to take up tbere by causing cost escalation, which make. projects which are not even approved by it impossible for the State Governments to tbe Planning Commis~ioD or Ihe Central meet tbese demands; and then ultimately the W.iter Commission. Thoro are instances hOD. members here and the bon. members where the approved projects are left out tbere in their respective State Legislatures and money is spent on unapproved ones. demand that the Centre should take up those In their attempt to please all, tiley ~pread projects as central proje=ts. the resources thinly and ace thus not able (0 complete eveD one project within the I remember a proverb. A stich in time liven time. saves nine. If these projects were completed as they were tbought of in Ule beginning 7 I At this moment, I would like to reply think a lot of problems can be avoided and to another complajnt made by bon. members headache can be saved. that there have been delays in giving clea· cance to their projects. Many of tbere SHRI K. RAMACHANDA REDDY have been pending with the State Govern ... (Hindupur); In Kurnool District of Andbra ments only because they are not able to Pradesh Wardbarajaswamy Project was pend. answertbe queries of the Central Electricity iog for ten years. Every Chief Minister iaid Authority or tbe Central Water Commission the foundation-atone. but it is pending foc or the Planning Commission. clearance of a small forest land. It is in the SHRI. D P. YADAV: Sir, the delay drought .. prone area. Tbe Centre is not able in giving the view of the Geological Survey to do anything. Now, you are telling tbat the State GJvernments are not giving replies of India also snould be ta~en into consi- deration. Sometime the project is delayed in the proper form Steps should have been for want of clearance from the Geological taken to giv"" clearance foc that project. J Survey of India also, . request you to kindly look ioto this matter. SHRI B. SHAKARANAND ; The hon· SHRI B. SHANKARANAND ; I "ave member is right. But the element of deJay all (he sympathy for the hOD. member acd by tbe Geological Survey of India is vt!ry the problems of his area ] wilJ certainly limited and minute. But the main delay is look into the matter. If it is a caSe or because of th·s. Whenever the project clearance by the Forest Authority or the reports are submitted by the State Govern- Departm?nt, I would definitely look into the ment, Ihey are found wanting in mformation matter t but I cannot promise. If an which is required far the approval of (he objection is raised by the Forest Department proj~ct in many respects. Queries are raised, whIch. is. geDUllle, J Cannot lake upon myself comments are given and then the project the responsibility of clearing it on beh:aif or reports are sent back or referred back to the Forest Department. the States to comply with the suggestions. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: In my There are instances where even before c;)nstltuency, there are so many things which sending the comUlents or (he replies of the are not cleared because of the Forest Depart questions rai~ed by the central authority or ment. Therefor~. I request tbe Minister tbe Central Water Commislion the scope of tosee that if anything comes with regard ti) the project is changed there by' again cbang~ irrigation, that shQuld be cleared immedi- iog the entire process of forming a new ately. because we cannot Jive in forests; we project; and then again tbe matter is 'ient have to create things for the development of back for the clearance, Som<'times I have the area. 235 Demands/or Grants APRIL 13, 1935 Demands for Grants 236- (General) 1985.86 (General) /985·86 SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: I have completion of the project reports before they really more sympathy for you because you are submitted 1 Can tbey not approach· cannot come here and s~ak. their State Governments first and see that the). are properly executed't MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I am ju.t adding it for your informatioD. [Tran6lalionJ SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : We will SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS definitely look into it. There: have been (Bbilwara) : Indira Canal, whicb was to be- some re&ional imbalances about irrigation complekd in two plaDs~ has Dot betn com- toecause of the fact that onc-third of our pleted even in six Plans. Yell do Dot country is arid or semi-arid or dIOUght provide fundi for tbat. The Central Govern.. prone. 10 oeder to provide irrigation to ment ahou1d take it over. The Government tbe drought prone-area; 1he Central Water of Rajas.han invest whatever funds ,hey have- Commission bas carried out an cxten~ive In this canal and due to Ihis aH the develop- study and prepared draft reports for about mental works have been held up thC'y are not 99 districts. To ass.ess the water resources being completed. a blueprint for water transfer from tbe surplus area to tbe water shortage area bas SHRI B. SH~NKARANAND : We can been prepared by the Centra) Water Com- provide funds only if we have the funds. mission and the Ministry of IrrigatioD. SMT. VIDYAWATI CHATURVEDI The National Water Development (Khajuraho) : There are schemes of Madbya AJ:,cncy bas been created for looking into Pradesh also which have nol been completcd_ the field and physical a spects of the trans- They should also be completed. fer of water from the surplus areas to Ihe deficit areas; of course it is a field-ba'ioed [Engbsh} organisation specifically crealed for this purpose. MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER : No interrup- tions please. Let bim finish. AN HON. MEMBER: What about SHRI B. SHANKARANAND·: As I Ganga-Cauvery project? said earlier. having very little time at my disposal, I would Dot try to deal with every SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : ThaI lS bon Memher's suggestiocs. or requests or tber: '\::ld. studies are taken up and as I demand! or complaints, By and large I will said earlier a blue-print has already been deal with the topics raised In the House, with prepared for the 99 districts out of the: five' reference fO Irrigation. in this context. bundred and odd dlstric;s In tbis country. AN HON. MEMBER: ODe request. A large portion of irrigatIOn develop- ment in [be country is beoefi[~ tbe dIOUgbt- MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER: Please sit plone areas. The projects arc Indira down. Not like this. Gandhi Canal Project in Rajasthan, Neela Canal system in Mabarashtra. Narmada SHRIK RAMACHANDRA REDDY: . prOjccl in GujaratJ Nagarjunasagar; Kurnool- As far as Anantapur district is concerned, it Cuddapab project, and Poc)1ampad project is a' raio·shad0w area; and there is Dot in Andhra Pradesh, Ghauaprabha. Mala- much rainfall in the area. Will the boo .. prabba Upprr Krishna and the Tuogabhadra Minisler kindly consider tbat case and see Project in Karnataka and the Indr'avatl tbat sometbing is done for tbat area because project in Orissa. May I request the hOD. it is suffering due to succelSlve famines '? Members, through you, Sir, when they are concerned with the irrigation pToject in their States, tbat tbey should also look into Ibe SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: The complaints or suggestions and the comments Sjxth Plan oullay for major and medium. made by the Centre in regard to the proper projects is Rs. 8,391 crore., for creating a 231 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 28,1907 (SAK"') Demands for Grants 238 (General) 1985-86 (Gene-a/) 1985-86 potential of 5.74 million bectar.s. Tb. end of fhe channel, shouid get water when- ,expenditure is however,. expected to be about ever he: wants. To get proper supply of RI. 79612 crores for a "'potential of 4.35 water at proper times, proper frequc:ncies million he~tares When tbe Sevenfh Plan and proper quaDtities is the basic philosophy was formulated it was found that tbe spill· of lrrigation, If tbis is [Jot done, tbQll what .over of the costs of the proj:crs taken up in wi!} happen is tbat if the farmer needs only a tbe Si~tb Plan was about R,. 26,400 erores. little qUtlutity of water and he gets more water. May I say that tbe Working Group has there will be water logging; aDd if he wants re.;:om n~od.!d Rs. 22,450 crores and if tbis more water but does not get it at all there -entire amount is made available,. to us, we wiJl be drooght. So, this is tbe problem of defi.. litely hope to do things that are expected manlgernent ot water Of course. Govern.. to b. done? In vie;" of sucb a bigh .~II. ment alone canOOl do it. New efforts wi1l over of costs aad the escalation the Approach have to be made in this field, Specially in Paper of the Seventh Plan a. approved by Gujarat water management has been given to tbe N~ti.,al Development Council envisages the people themselves. The water manage- primarily to consolidate the gains fcom the ment cooperntive socierie!l have been formed previous Plans funding maximum outlays on and they are managing their own problems the 'on-going' schemes by extending tbe without any complaint against the Govern Government's channe1 10 five to eight ment. Thanks to the Gujarat Government. hectares of blocks and modernisation of old they h,lve been successful in takina up a irrigation schemes. pilot project in this field So. this is aD eye-opener for all of us because whether it It has been decided to lake up new is family planning or water maQagem~nt pro- medium schemes. if any~ only in tIlbal, gramme the people should take that as their backward and drought.. prone areas, There is own problem and manage their own affairs. a plan called the Tribal Sub. Plan far Tribal people and Special Component plan (or SHRI KOLANDAIVELU (Gol:>ichetti. the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes. palogam) : These two cannot be clubbed The Prime Minister has requesfed ail the together. Ministries of thc CenCral Government, the State Governmcnts and tbe Union terrjtories SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: Family to prepare projects and schem"s in al1 the planning can be clubbed with all the activities fields of economic development and of life today. social sectGr including irrigatIOn and power entirely for the benefit of Scheduled Castes 13 00 hr. and Scheduled Tribes under the Tribal ~ub· Plan and Special component Plan. May I In India, only 26 per cent oftbe net powa reque!.t all concerned through you to give area gats Irrigatiun and only 27 pee cent of their attention 10 this problem so that such that land g.!ts irrigatioD for two crops, which schemes can largely henerit the bulk of the means. tbe Irrigation intensity 15 127 per populdtion of this country which is below cent. Hundred per cent for one crop and the poverty line. So. when we are formulat .. 27 per cent for two CrOpS means ~27 per Ceot ing the Seventh r:'ive Year Plan and pro .. irrigation inten.;ity. And, Sir. only :3 per visions are beiOg made in tbe first year of c'ent of the net sown area grows t\'110 crops tbe Seventh Plan, consideration sftould be a yeart giving us a cropping intensity of shown (0 this aspect 80 that we can bring 123 per cccl. This is how the intensity in thes.: people above tbe poverty line. irrigation and intensity in cropping is assessed Here. may I say On the floor of Now. I come to the basIc question of this House, that the percentage of area water management. The basic philosophy irrigated in Punjab is the highest In the or coocept of scientific management of water country and Haryana is [he next bi&hest in involves making more etflclent use of water. the country wbile States hlc Madhya For achieVing maximum output per Iiu'e of Pradec;b. West Bengal etc. are below tbe water 9 it it. neceesa.ry to raise both ~;ropping countf)"s averaee. Byd ICrigation iotensrty. ScientifIC managt!· me-nt involves that everyone in tbe field. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS : Let whether be is near the dam or far away at is R.ajasthan. 239 Demands for Grants APRIL 18, 1~8j Demands for Grants 240- (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 SURI B. SUANKARANAND I Don't Not only for the t-conomic development or compare your Sta1e wilb that. tbe water resources development or the power development but also in the Now, Sir, tbi, brings us \0 tbe question mtert'st of tbe unity and int~lrily of tbis of command area development. As tbe CouDtry: if you want to give more power to Members hoive been continuously demanding the Cenlre, I will be Ihe most happy man. assistance there is certain Central assistance I welcome your su,gestion and De cd ]'our given for the Command Area Development support in this regard. Scheme. The command area development also brings us aoothec problem. SARI V. SOBHANADREESWARA RAO: The command area of any TI ver. (Vijaywada) Certainly If the Mini5h~r need not necessarily be in a p.rticular State. ('an aSsure that these projects .,rill be taken h may be spread either over two States or up immt'diate)y. we wJJI so1idly agree for three States. If tbe command area develop.. tbit proposal. After all, it IS the ..ell- ment bas to be tbere the entire area has to being of the people, whIch is more be developed. But then the inter-State pro· important. blems crop up. Right from the command area up to the entire flow of the river, wbe:n SUR! B. SUANKARANAND Please it paste through more tban one State, there consul. your Chief Ministel. are problems concerning tbe shar ing of tbe SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA water or power. if it il hydel. Various RAO: We are here. problems are there in tbis regard but fort- unately we have been abJe to solve many of SHRI B. SUANKARANAND: Please the inter.. State problems .relarding water. consult your Chief Mjnister and then come There was a sugg~stion made by an hon. to me. Member in Iheir regard. I do not know tht' name of the Member who said that sucb SARI V. SOBHANADREESWARA Clvers which eitber have the command area RAO : Ct;:nalDly, SJc. spread over more than one State or \"bleb fJow through more th::l'n one State. should be SARI B. SAANKARANAND : And treated as national rivers and the Centre thereafter you Win say our Chief Minister should have the direct responsiblity of tb~ does not agree~ water resource deVelopment. This sugges- tioll has been made on the line.s of NatJonal SHRI C. 'MADHA V REDD) : He is. Highways The roads which pass through alrrady here He rs gOlDg to CQn~ult you. man),,",States. the Centre is maintaining tbem. You aik him. So. it was suggested, why Dot lhe water rcaources of sucb rivers too should be SHRI B. SHANKARANAl'OD : I can developed by the Centre .•. ([,llerruptlOn). very well unders'3Dd the anxiety of the hon Member lor having tbe benefjt of SARI C MADHAV REDDI (Adllabad): the liver reSOUlces pass,ng through their All the rivers of the country are }Ike that. States. Implications of it perhaps you are Dot aware_ SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: Now, it SHRI KOLANDAIVELU : We can has got Imother dimcnsjon. If tbe House achieve tbis by na!ionaJisation of Yoatcrs. aMrees, I will be the most happy man if the You can do it. Centre can lake over the watC'rs of those rivers. BUI p]ease ask your own Stale", SHRI B. SHANKARANAND It is "beth~r tbey are Willing to g!\ie up their not the question of Tamil Nadu. It is a lilbt! or they want them to relain them wHh question of the entire country. tbe Stares. SARI KOLANDAIVELU That i. SHRI KOLANDAIVELU: We can why I am strelsins· 1 am not talking for nationalise the water. or against Tamil Nadu. SURI B. SHANKARANAND: SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : Ever,. entirely depend 00 you if YGU support me. Slate will be too happy. 240 241 Demands for Grants CHA ITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Demandsfor Grants 242 (General) 1985-86 (Gene'ai) 1985-86 nt or r tbe. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : We can Members have spoken about the seepage tbe have a separate debate on this topic. Let problem. I have already replied to thi& tbil tbe Minister reply because there will be no problem. er t~ end to this. man. The water logging is also a problem I your THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE which is many times connected with the DEPARTMENT OF POWER (SHRI problem of flood control. Every State is ARUN NEHRU) : Are You also inc!uding faced with this chronic problem of flood RAO power on that ? inistcr control. takea SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura) : :e for Even in Karnataka which is not usually Afterwar"ds we can see. having the flood, sometimes there are years where •.. SHRI 'B. SHANKARANAND : This water is used for irrigation, drinking and SHRI K. Y. SHANKARAGOWDA for power. Water is water. Please consult (Mandya) Is it 'Your Karnataka' or your States. •our Karnataka' ? Now. some bon. Member has referred SHRI B. SHANKARANAND Our to the AII·India service of Engineers. Of Karnataka. 'Our' means, Karnataka of course this was seriously considPred. I am this House, not min~ or yours. told that even Ali-Tndia Radio mentioned 1his. But, when the Janata Government came, they reversed this and took a con. SHRI K. V. SHANKARAGOWDA ; trary view of it . They said that the States Because you used the words 'Your do not want it and we also do not want Karnataka' ? All India Se.rvice . SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : No, no. SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA I did not use that . RAO r Why can't you reverse it now ? MR. • DEPUTY -SPEAKER : You did SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : Please listen to me. I am giving you facts. I not hear. am nJt :Jm:nentin.; Jil t~:$. Th:se are fact> and this is history. Now, you are SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : You here and you can give suggestions in this did not hear properly. I will always say. regard The lndran f'orest Servrce as an 'our Karnataka' our Maharashtra, our All-India Service was cleared in 1966. On Kashmir, our Tamil Nadu' and so on. the same line demands have been made both in the House and outside that the SHRI H.G. RAMULU : Mr. Iyer, you doctors and engineers should alio be given are also one of the Members of this House. the benerit of having All·India services. Personally, I am of the view that All-India Services in this country have been SHRI K.V. SHANKARAGOWDA :My advantageous for the unity and integrity of ears must have misheard you. It Ibis country with the inter-state communi·. • It is cations knitting the country into one whole nation. Personally I feel that such SHRI B. SHANKARANAND Yea, activities ought to deserve· encouragement they have. That and assistance. Besides the engineers also will have the beaefit of having the services Sir, millions of rupees were spent for io the level of All-India servicea. This is control of floods. A time has come when a question which was favourably considered perhaps because 1 do undrstand the State~ and I personally feel that it deserve further have not been able to meet the demands of consideration. flood control from their resources, or they 243 Denrandsfor Grants APRIL 18. 1985 Demandsfur Grants 244 (Genera/) 1985-86 (Celie",/) 1985-86 [ Sbri B. Sbankaranand 1 SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: My God! You are accusing us or cbanging the stand! cannot make allocations which are required Yeatcrday. tbe Prime Minister has.given a to control the CJoods, a serious thought has written rep]y which has come· in tbe preiS to be giveD. A time has come' for that. today. That ~bows that the expert commjt.. Thoulb I do not want to commit on this~ tee bas recommended that the TeJugu Ga.nga '''', if we want to develop water resources project should be cleared as immediately 8' in the trtte Sense of tne term, flood control possible a'ld they merely added a rider whiCh ~ should be heated as national problem and has already been al!cepted by the State attempts' are required in this direction to Government. viz, that we must give an equi- avoid tbe miseries of the peop1e and to sec valent irrigated forest area. which we arc tbat in view of the various problem~ of silt ... prepared to do. That bas appeared in tbe ina, erosion of tile land~ river banks, etc. press today. Therefore, VIoe request }OU to bringing: miseries to the people-and these give the clearance ror this project as early rivers paS'S through many States and the as possiJ,le various States either have not been able Co make usc of the water or cont~ol the floods or thereafter solve tbe problems of water- SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: I wish logging a serious tbought bas to be given the bOI] Member studied the Tclugu Ganga to this and I wish to tell tbe Hou,e [bat tbis Projcct ~s was initially 8ubmitled 10 us and will receive serious atteotion of the Govern- the Telugu Ganga project as is being con- ment. ceived by the Andhra Pradesh Government now. I have replied about the farmers' orga- SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: It is Dol nisations. a project of Orissa, it is not a project of Tamil Nadu also. About forest clearance and environ ... ment~, there is som'! element of truth in this (Interruptions) tbat there are certain projects pending for consideration for want of clc3rance from the SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: Please Forest Deparment, and I C'l.D tell the House ~tudy it and come, It is und~r considera- that the Prime Minister has specially given tion and I cannot commit that it will be tl:Jer~ instructions to see thlt are DO delays cleared unless It is cleared technically and as far as clearance from tbe forest angle is otherwise. concerned. SHRI ARUN NEHRU: Actually there (InTerruptions) is a lot of improvement. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Enoug'l. EDough. I do not want any futher supple· SHRI V. SOBHAN-\DREESWARA RAO: mentaries. Let tbe Minister proceed. Recently the Cenlral Team bas vilitc:d tbe Telugu Ganga Project So. I would like to SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : I will know whether the bon MJllister will indicate that he wiH clear tbe Tblugu Ganga Pro- cODclude after I say a f\:!w words on Power. ject soon. SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN (Coocb- SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : I do Dot bebaC) : A)Jow supplementaries. want to say anythtng on Tclugu Ganga Pro- ·jec~ becuage the stand taken by Andhra MR. lJEPUTY·SPEAKER :]\;o supple- Pcadellh is bein& changed. ment.:1ries, Please sit down. SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA SHIH B. SHANKARANAND: I am RAO: Why? not yield ing now. SHRI B SHANKARANAND: You a,k' I must tbank my friend. Mr. D.P. Yadav your Chief Minister, you don~t ask me. for his demand (or a water policy. 245 Demands for Grail's CHAITRA 28. 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grimts 246 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 SHRI AMAR ROYPR \DHAN : Say SHRI A \1AR ROYPRADHAN: How something about Tees1a and Joiot River long wii! it continue 1 During loan months, Commission. water is very much essential ,or the Farakka barrage to save the Calcutta port and MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I do Jlot Calcutta city itself, You arc saying that meeting is going on, and next meeting will want any interruptions. Plea,e sit down. be beld. How long will it continue 1 SHRI B SHANKARANAND: We have already said that We will atlempt for a MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: As long as national water policy within a reasonable your supp1ementary continues, time. Regarding flood control~ as I have said, there are recommendation. of Rashtriya SHRI B. SHANKARANAND : As long Barh Ayog According to them. I understand. some attempt has been made to suggest 89 it is necessary. solutions to the States suffcriDg from floods to come forth with a certain law so that they The hOD. Member know3 tbat for clapp- need not have problems in their activities in ing, two hands are needed. I cannot uni .. preventing or in regulating floods I am laterillly take a decision. So, tbe di:scusiiions told that some Bills bave been circulated to are going on, (Interruptions) various States. Regarding water conservation, water Upper Krishna project is also there. storing, lift irrigation, sprinkler irrigation through a canal development. these are Hipperaji project was included even in matters which are very much under the con· the SIxth Five Year Pian, But unfortunately ~ 'SideratioD of the Government and we have the State Government of Karnataka has not made certain provisions for these th10gs in IQcluded tilpperajl barrage projeCt In the 7th our Plan Plan at all. Though a few crores of rupees have been already spent and the barrage was I have already said about tbe welfare of treated as an on·going project in the Sixth Soheduled Caste. and Scheduled Tribes. Five Year PJan. unfortunately rhis project Regarding Karnata'ka water dispute. does not find a place in the proposal of tbe Seventh Five Year Plan sent by the State Government. (J .. rerrUpf;o'!l!) SHRI S.M. GURADDI (Bljapur): What about Upper Krishna project? MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER : If you want anything. you can directly go to his chamber SHRI B. SHANKAR ANAND : Upper and discuss further. Krishna project has been included in the Plan.. The proposal is Sent by the State Oovernment in the Seveoth Five Year Plan SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: I can and they have a~ked for funds, We will re!1tatedly say that I will definitely look into support the proposal of the KBrnataka the requests mado by the hon. Members Governmeot. through the:r cut-motions and speeches OD the floor of the House. It wilJ reveive my SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: Please very sympathetic attention and consideratioD .ay something about the Teesta doDd the I will-look into the prohlem. . Joint River Commission and the sharing of water of Ganga. SHRI S.M. GURADDI : Only lip sym- SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: The pathy would not help. Finance is necessary ~ Joint COmmission is meeting and at tbe Minister J~veJ, we have' agreed to me:t. SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: May I Now, the officers level meeting is going on gay that sympathey can be expressed tbrough and the discussioD i. raking pJace. lips only; (lnterrul'fi.nsij 247 Demands for Grant.~ APRIL 18, Ig85 Demandsfor Grallts 24~ (General) 1985-86 (Get1eral) 1985-86 MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I would nol measure. The in<;lalled capacity in power allow anything further. Nothing will go on plants own..:d and operated oy the Central record. If anybody is asking, I will not Government organisdtions ulcreased from allow. Don't r~cord. 3,388 tv1\V in March, 1980 to 6,758 MW in March... 1985 accounting nearly for 16 per (Intcrrupfiolls)* cent" of the total installed capacity jn (he Utilities. MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER : If you want to make any perscnal requests, go to [be A ~;~n'ficant fealUIe of Ille Cer.trd MinIster in his Chambe-r and discuss regard- Seeter Power Prog:amrne h .. s bel:n [hat the thermal po'\o\er nr,ljecis ha\'e been commis- ing individual issues. But it is not like this. sioned in a p;::n01 of 4'S months and li-omc- I would Dot aJlow anything like tbis. times less from the date of placement of SHRI B· SHANKARANAND: With orders for plant and equipment. Central regard to cower. my hon. colleague Mr. sector Power Plants generate about 100 mimOD units of electricity per day which is Arun Nehru bas already dealt with [to He has givell very wide information regarding about 22 per cent of the daily energy genera- t.on in the country. power dcyelopmeDt~ generation. transmission, distribution a~d the l:ke issues. He has The magoilue of the power programme informed the House, when he intervened in the seventh Plan will depend on the yesterday about all that. r~SOu:-ces w! are able to rnobi]i'ie. Notwith- <"taod'ng the size of the programme, it would The only tiling that] want to say now be n.:ces~ary to ob!ain optimum results from is that the target for p')wer ge:1eration dur- our limIted resources. It bai become iog 1934·85 was fi'(ed at 154 billion units. neces .. af) to invest the po\.\cr programme Of this, 98.5 billion units we.:-e to be g~:1e· wlth neVi apDr0aches. rated by the! m3.1 stations, 3,5 bjJIion units by nuclear plants and 5 Z bill ion units by There have been sugge<::!ions gal.:.re in this House for dev!lopment of mini and hydro stations Upto the end or Febru3.ry~ 19b5. 89.13 oillion units were generated by micro hyde I proJ':c!s. It is true that there thermal stations, 3.63 biil:m units by nuclear 15 a large area which is to be: tapped and plants and 4977 billiun u"1its by hydro ex.ploited for hyde} power. Unrortunately~ wE' not have the resources needed for stations, This represenr~ an overall increa~e dJ [[leU t);:c.Juse t'le hydel projects need very of lZ 5 per ~~ot ovu the generation for tile corresponding penod of the previous year, huge sums of money. Giv~n the neCC'5sary Ihe 1l1Cre8-se in t~nn'i of tht.rmal g~neration, resources, perhaps. we wHl be able to have nu::-Iear generation and hydro generation wai more bydei proj:cts in the country, but there is a !:;l1g ges.tation period- We have press- 14,8 per cept, 13.7 p:r c~.,t and 8.6 per cent resp:ctive Iy . Ing d_malld~ from industry and agriculure for gOing in for power plants having a short gestation period. Tbe tbe:rmal gene:-atl,JD for 1984.85 envisaged a plant load factor of 50 p=r c.ot. That ba5 led u, to thernn.! projectc; Between April, 19ts4 a'ld February. 1985 the and glS based projec(s Forrun:1tely, ga~ is PLF of toermal powe-r stations was 49.2 per availilble and we have been gOIng in for gas cent whereas it was 47 2 Da cent during the blsed projecis to a certain extent. W: have corres.ponding period of 19io13·84. The PLF alreacy hkca a decis.ion to have three gas of therma1 power stations is expec'.;:_d 10 based p.,wer projectllJ; in th~ HBl f')ipe linc. reacb. 50 p~r cent by the end of thlS year. I The glS !)ased plams bave the lowest gesta- understand that it has already reached 55,5 tion per:oJ. I am given to un den! ilnd that per ceot in tbe month of March, within three years we will be able to do it. The 5hort·tcrm proposals bave The hoo. Members are aware that the forced U"i to go in for gas based plants to Central Government bave been participating meet the present demands. We have to in power development in an increasing exploit aiJ these tbings. ·Not recorded, 249 Demalldsfor Graufs CHAITRA 28,1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 250 (General) ) 985-86 (Gelleral) 1985-86 In the House, many demands have been May I rereat to the benefit of the hon Tnld: by hon. Memb:rs from Karna'ak-l. M:rnbcr tbat it is Dot the practice of (h~ Tamilnadu and other Stat.:s to have gas House fo force the MjDi~ter to answer any- based p,JW':C projects in their Slat!;S~ thing? You can only make ... K1.rlutaka m1.inly. I know, is a hydel power State but fortunately R3lchur tl:tcrma1 sta.tion SHRI JAGANNATH PATTNAIK whlCh is bJ.~ed on coal and the nuclear (Kalahandi) : We are only making a request. pJwl!r prJject whicrh has been san::tioned for SHRI B. SHANKAR ANAND : I have Kunluka in Kagai in Kuwar district and heard you. the p.JRer from Ramagundam and Neyveli to a certain cxtent will ea"e tbe situation in ( lfllerrUl'tiohl)*" Kamataka, which i~ chronically power starved. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Nothing wiH go on rec;)cd c:xc~pt what the Mjnis(er SHRI V. S. KRISHNA IYER: When says. ",ill tbe power supply be made from Rama_ gundam to Karnataka Stilte ? SHRI B. SHARKARANAND : I know the problem of Orissa. But may I teU the SHRI B. SHANKARANAND; Attempts hOD, Members. from Orissa tbat their State factor arc there because power just canDot be is the lowest as far as .,lant load is carried by transport vehicles. We have to concerned: it is only 33 per cent whcrea5 lay trano;missioll lines or kv lines Iud bj in.e the All India average is. more than 5J :J~r eeot. Odo;;sa is geoeraring only 33 per _~nt. end of the year, we hope to give power tJ Karnataka from Ramagl.ludam. I know the Tbe difference is more· than 20 per ce-:t. problem pO:ied by Andhra Pradesh. Andbra Th'!re. the plants are not w,Jrking efficiently. Otherwise, [hey will not have this p,oblem. pradesh is g"tting power froill Ra~3.gund3.rn Please ask your plants to work efriciently. at 4l p].isc and selling; it to Karaataka at 63 (lnlerrup';on'). I have told you about or 64 paise. We do not have the trans .. Ramagundlm also. Perhaps. you have not mi'ision line3 from Ramigundam to b~eD able to understand this. (l"terrup !,.m.J). Karnataka and we hope to do it anj g v.: power to KarDataka by the end or lhi:"> This country has got coal-fields in certain year. parts, we have got the idle capacity in certain other parts, we have gas in certain otber (Interruptiol1s)" parts. We have to synchronise all these MR. DEPUTY SPEAKBR: Are you factors which go to make a power plant, initiating any discussion or you wan~ to whether bud:::! or thermal or nuclear or coal .. -clarify? The hOI1. Mi<1 1Slcr b:n u:ldastoo:::l ba <;ed. These are to be so planned thaI He will reply. I do not W.lilt such a leng,.h; there Will b: equitable distribution of power dilicussion. If there is any puticular point, generation Unfortunately~ this aspect of you can raise. The hon. Minister h:1s not equirable and just distribution of power yet finished his reply. Please sit down. g~neratjon capacity ha5 not received the attention which it should have rec;:ived. My Nothing will go on record. I will not Ministry is now engaged as to how best we allow anything. C:l!l make StatC"s grievanceh:ss, at least witb regard. to generation of power. The power generated will not remain wit bin the The hon. Minister is Dot yieldil]·~. He limits of that particular State because we will carry OD. He is goiDg to reply. are attempting to have a national Rrid. We have established Regional Grids. but tbe SHRI B. SHANKARANAND: May I Regional Grids bave their- own problems. tell tbe hOD. Members Ibat it is not th.e We do not have long transmission Hnes practice in tbe House to force the M i Dister The problem of tracsminioD is still befor; to answer? (lnlerrupt;ons). It is not the us thouah we are generating power. As I practice or the Houle. laid jUlt DOW, we have not been able to -Not recorded. ...·Not recordcd~ Demalldsfor G,·ants APRIL 18, 1985 Demandsfor G,·ants 25~ (General,1985-86 (General) 1985-86 [ Shri B. Shankar.nand ] in tbe villaBes tbough tbey are deemed to bave been electrified. Altbougb tbe precise evacuate power feom Ramalundam to number of sucb village. in different State. ICarn.taka because we have DO transmission is not readily known, .t is estimated tbat IiDe ; we have be9: doing it and we hope to about S7,000 villages have been electrified complete it by the cnd of this year. only for asricultural purposes and LT line.. do not exist ill them tor effective electrifica- When we have tbe concept of national tiOD. The rural electrification scheme arid, the power generated In a particuJar financed by the Rural Electrification Cor. State will not remain for tbat particular State. por_tioD is a compact project which provides· whether hydel or thermal or any other power. for the extension of L T and HT Jines, Tbat is the ultimate aim of tbis Government installation of distribution transformers and so thaI tbe hon. Members will not have such release of agricu'turalJ industrial and • griell8nce in future. But I must warn the· domestic connections in all viJlages covered States that. baving created the complex. by [be sanctioned project. baving created the facilities to generate power, if they are DOt managed efficiently. Now a grievance has beeD expressed by tbey will creatc further problems as far as some States that tbe hamlets around certain feeding tbe natioD with power to their viHages arc not conSidered as Villages for reqUirement is conccrned. There, 1 request h&viag the benefits and facilities under the tbe bon. Members to see that tbe power plams benefit scheme of rural electrificatioD. There in their respective States fUDctlon efficiently has been a demand that these hamlets also and achieve the desired results. I know should bc takcn as villages hecause 1f these dlere are certain difficulties, as my colleague bamlets are Dot considered as villages. bas said, there are certain Stale Electflciry perh"ps tbe State Govf!rnm,=nts are not gett- Boards- which are doing well and there are ing the required assistance that tbey other.. certain other State Electricity Boards which Wl~e wou~d n:lve got if thes~ h'lmkts were are Dot at .J.J[ dOing well. There hal been treated as villages. It is a genuine demand aarcement that ti-.e State Electricity Boards and I think it deserve$ a sympathetic consi- arc sta"ived of funds. We have been deration from us. acriously considering a proposal of bavina a Power Finance Cocporation to go to tbe aid of the State Elcctricity Boards. We abo Here aho I 'IIaid that in regard to rural have certain rCDovation and modernisation electrification specially for the benefit of the schemes to belp (he State Electricity BOdl Js H ... r,jd.1l ;'ud tribal bastees, the S:Olt;; Govern- and otber power plants to improve their ment should have such. schemes so that thC"y functioning by taking tbe benefit of tbi. C3.D directly live benefit to these people. ocbeme where we bave got about Rs. 500 crore.. Already about 36 power stations Now I bave already dealt with many have been identified by the authorities and hyde I power stations and regarding other tbey can have, the benefit of tbis scheme. things in power generatioQ I do not think Tberc are other scbemes which tbe power aay other member bas any problem to alk stations caD take benefit of aod the Central as they have made with regard to irriaation. Government is very keen to help tbern in I thiok the bon. Members. by and large, thi!l. would hear me 00 tbe poiots they have raised. on tbese two Departments. I again repeat Now rural elecli ification is one tbing tbat I will surely and very sympathetically wbere boo. Members should know tbat out look into tbe roquest that they have made or a total number of 5.76 lakbs village. in through their cut motions and also on the Ibe country, 3.64 lakbs VIllages, i.e. 63.21% floor of the House and it will receive my «'ere reported to have been electrdied as 00 sympatbetic consideratioD. May 1 now 28.2.85 and the number of pump set. aod request tbe House tbat in view of this, they lube_Us enerailed bave exceeded 56 lakbs may not press their cut motions and they 0:') tbe same. date. A Dumber of villages niay unanimously support tbe Demands or electrified in the country, mainly in UP, Grant. of Ibe Ministry of Irrigation aDd Bibar and Ori ..a do not bave L T extentiGn Power. 253 Demandsfor Grants CHAITRA ~8, 1907 (SAKA) DemandsfCJr Grunts 254 (General) 1985-86 (Genera£) 1985-86 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I sball now .ho,", in the fourth column of put all the cut tnotiODS to vote uoless aoy tbe Order Paper b. granted to hOD. Member desires tbat any of bis cut the President oot of tbe COD- motioos be put scparatrly solidated Fund of ladia to complete the sums necessary to All the cut l1lotion$ we"l' put and. n~ga defray the charges tha t will come in coune of payment during tbe "iv". year ending 31st day of March, 1986 in respect of tbe beads of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I sball now Demands cntered in the second put the Demands for Grants reJatiDg to the column thereor againat Demand M-inistry of Irrigation and Power, to vote. Nos. 63 and 64 1 elatin. to Tbe qucltioQ is : Ministry or Irrigation aDd "That the respective sums not exceed- Power.'~ iug the amounts on Revenue Account and Capital Account The molion wa,. adop/~d. Demand, for Grants 1985.. 86 in. re,pect 0/ the Mi'li,'ry of Irrigation and Pow~r voted by Lok Sahha No. of Name of Demand Amount of Demand for Amount of Demand for Demand Grant on account Grant veoted by Ibe voted by tbe House on House 25tb March, 1985 2 4 Revenue Capiral Revenue Capital Rs. Rs. RI. Rs. MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND POWER 63 Department of 29,77,31,000 4,41,34,000 1,31,18,53,000 13,81,71,000 IrrIgation 64 Department of 38,49,31.000 ~,80, 76, II 000 1.91,46,60,000 14,58,02,56,000 Power (ii) Ministry of Industry and CompeJ'lY A list showing the serial numbers or cut Affairs Motions moved will be put up 00 the Notice Board shortly In case any member finds any MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Tbe House discrepancy in the list he may kindly brin. will now take up discussion and voting on it to the notice of the Officer at the Table Demand Nos. 57 to 59 relating to the without delay. Ministry of Industry and Company Affairs for which 6 hours have been allotted. Motion moved : flThat tbe respective sums not exceed- Han. members present in the House ing tbe amounts on Revenue "hOle cut motioDI to the Demands for Account and Capital Account Grants have been circulated may~ if they ShOWD in the Fourth Column or desire to move their cut motions, 5cnd slips tbe Order Paper be .ranled to to the Table within 15 minutes indicating tbe tbe President out of the COD- 'Serial numbers of tbe cu. motions tbey would solidated Fund of India to com- like to move, plate tbe lums necessary to 255 Demandsfor Grants APRIL 18, 1985 Demands fo.l Grants 256- (GmeJal) 1985.86 (General) 1985.86 defray tbe charges that wiJ1 come column Ibere?f against Demand in course of payment during tbe No. 57 to 59 relatiDg to tbe year ending 31st day of Marcb. Ministey of Industry and Com- 1986 in respect of tbe beads of Demands entered in the second pany Affairs." Demand, for Grants 1985-86 in relpect of Tne Ministry (1/ lndu~t'y QlJa Company affairs .~ub,.mill,d (0 the not" of Lok S(lhha No. of Name of Demand Amount cf Demand (or Amount of Demand for Dem""d Grant on account voted Grant submitted to tbe by Ibe House on 25th vote of the House March, 1985 2 4 Revenue Capital Revenue Capital Rs. Rs. Rs. R •. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COll'PANY AFFAIRS 57. Ministry of Industry 1,85,91.000 16,( 00 9,29,60,000 84,000 and Company Affain 58. Indult"es 17,92,08,000 51,14,00,000 89,60,39,000 2,55,70,00,000 5'.1. Village·and Small 3~,IO,25,000 25,50,67,OJO 1,70,71,2S,aOO 1,27,78.35.0CO Industries SHRl Y. SOBHANADREESWARA on paper. We have failed to achieve many RAO (Yljaya",adal : Mr. Depuly Speaker. of the goals which have kept before Us. Sir~ ] need not go elaborately iDlO 1he indus- trial policy that has been pursued all these First, let Ine say about the performance year~. Even b~fore the cou~try attained of '{fie pubi~c .sector enterprIses whIch were Independence our freedom fighters who had only five in number and having an invest .. sacrificed in tbeir entirity for the nation m.:::nt of Rs 29 Clores in J951. Tbey have decided that only through a process of now mcreased to 21-1 enterprises with luvest_ planning our country will make progress and ment to (he tune of Rs. 35.411 croces as on achieve the objecti,"cs for which they had 31.3.84· The total investment In cop 10 fought for the Independcn..:e of thi.i public enterpl"ises JS Rs 19,252 croces. 1 hat countly. is neacly 54% of the total investment. There is a spectaculiir rise. In 1974 .. 75 the jr,v~H. 13 44 brs. ment stood at Rs. 665-1- crores ~hile the Dumber of employees who were work'ing in [SHRl VAKKOM PURSHOTHAMAN (hem were 14,31,000 and the averge annual In the Chair.] per capita emolument was RI. 7402 per year. By the year 1980·81 tbe number of enler- Accordingly although the first industrial prises rose to 168 and' investme~t rose to policy resolution was adopted In 1948, yet Rs. 18)207 crores wbile the Dumber of with the laudable directive principles tbat employees rose to 18 39 lakhs; tbe avengo bav.: been enunciated in our Constitution it annual per capita emolument was Rs. 14239~ was given a further twi5t and a new Indus .. In just 3 more years the investment rose to trial Policy Resolution came iD I O heiDi; In Rs. 29,896 crores. The number of empJoyees. J956. J am sorry to state that unforruDately stood at 20 69 lakbs and average BDDual per many of the objectives have only remained capita emolument was Rs. 21,675. AClually Demmuls for Grall" CHAITRA 28, if07(SAKA) Demands for Grant J 258 (Gelleral) 1986-86 (General) 1985-86 the public sector ealerprises sbould carD per year. Should t,hey DOt feel, th"t is, ho'" profits aDd h. tura tbey should finance our much plivile..,d people are th.,. and tbat fulure plans, They Sbould contribute 'to tbe Ihere are rnillion. of very Dofortunate people. 1I&tiooal exchequer ...d our planaiai 10 tbat there arc Mevers] crores of peoplo who some more' industries can be sct up .Ilad arc uaemployed and under·employed who some more unfortunate uD [ Sbri VakJrom Pllrusotllmao ] The sman scale industry i. ntSlecled and in this pr acess, handier.ft. are dtstroyed and ill Delbt alooe are tile firstclass citizeos aod tbe problem of unemploymeol In the country tbe reat jn tbe country are second class i. accentuated and tbe number of artisan. citizens. -It is unimaginablo. ba'S come dO"D. In regard t~ inventories in tbe public AKordina to a sample survey. while iD sector enterprises., I w"!uld like to .submit 1955 Ibe numbor or worker. cnlla&ed In tbat tbe present day mdustrial operations housebold industries stood at tcn nul ion~ by •requieed a bigher degree of optimisation of 1971 Ibe number bas come down to 6.35 all its inputs. Material constitute a sub millions. Just nnaglDc [be sad. state of stantial portion of production cost and affairs Now 23 5 milljon people are on redlll'tion ID tbo amount of capital the live registers of the e.mployment ex- locked up in inventories not only helps in changes. Tbe Dlher day, the bon. Minjster. achieving higbee rate of return but also helps wblle definjnB tbe poor. told U' Ibat Rs 65 in improving liquidity or enterprises. Now, per month in rural areas and Rs. is per _wUh tbe total inventories at RI. 11.200 crores month in urban"arcas, would be considered at tbe ~d of 1983-84, much is to be done. as the' poVerty line_ He ,old Ibat nearly I ..ould thererore suggest to tbe Government 53.6 per cent of tbe people in lural atea. are that mucb improvement will have to be done below tbe poverty Jine in the year 1979-80_ in tbi • ..-ogard. They can acbieve betler As regards India·. economic pOSition in tbe _nits if tbe Government take. very stron, woeJd. in 1963-64 we were occupying the measures in this rcaard. 85tb position. but by 1977. ...e bad lIone down to J06tb position. Economic di .. Now I come to the MIlall scale industry parities in tbc country have increased, like ~ which i. conuibudDI Dearly 49 per ceot in aoythlDa. tbe tOlal production. Small scale industry Tbe amount allotted to the .mall .cale aloDe is producins: Rs: 30.415 crores worth indu'tr,. durinll tbe Firer Plan .... R. 48 of Boada. It i. Biving employl1ltDt . to 84 crores, tbat is, 2 1 per cent and ror industry lakh. of people and its share in exports. and miner.ll, tbe allo[ment wa. 28 per cent. which com •• to about Ils. 2350 crores, IS . But wbat is tbe positioil in reprd to tbe -al.o c.>DslderabID. While the .man seal.. subse-qucnt plans? In tbe Second Plm.. ector Is doioB so much bene6t to tbis country for industry it was.20 per ceDt. whereas for and its econDmy. tbe Govc:rnmet of India is vill.Be and Imall industries it ...as oaly 2 per creating it w,tll a .tep-mQtlled,. attitude It cent Like thi., tile allotment (or industry i. not able to provide tbe small scale sector increased gradually aod eVen in tbe Fifth witb tbe neceHBry 6nances. Tbouab it " Plan. it ..as 24 per ceDt. For villaae aad included in the priorit,. sector for bank lmall industries. tbe allotment was only credit. But waht" is tbe quaQtum of amount 1.4 per ceoC. In tbis way. areal injustice is that you are Bivinl to tbe .m~1I scale sector done to tbe small scale seclor. Contrary to tbe aad what is the amount tbat is ~veo to the objectives that are laid down to ensure tbat larp and m:dium iodu,tries ? I will give a tbe ope;ration or tbe ecoDomic system does .imi'le , e,,-am;Jle 9 as to how tbe bankin. Dot re-sult in CODCefttrafiGD or wealth and ,y.tem op.rates Wili\" for tbe conltruction means. of production. wbat IS tbe srate of of hou",. tbroughout tbe coonry. only affairs at present 1 A linllie family coatrols Rs. ISO Clore. is beiDa given, here in Delhi ••set. to IIu: lunc of Ils. 2880 clore. and for a •.. ingle botel RI. 30 10 40 erorcs is another family has auets worth Il•• 2600 Biven as loan. S" bow mucq i. the toral ecOleJ. ThiS i. tbe Itaggeriq ccoDomic amount for aU these biB botels? Hundreds disparity that is preYailiDI in tbis COUDUY of "'0_ of rllpees arc spent on the hotel DOW. U nrortunatcly, all this is due to the IAdu.tt7 .. wh«eas. (or Lbe entire country for fact that tbe patb sbown by Mahatma the eonslruction of bouse. for poor people Gandbi i. b"'DI IICIIlecteoi by tbe Govern- and economically weaket seetons, only ment. lb. ·150 crora is Bivcn. I reqUHt. may. I 14.00 bu. d_d that a 'U' turn .boDld take pi""" H )'ou do nol. remember what Ile told. nil Govem_, should reverse ita PfloriUCS. and lOballllC tbe priorjjie, iD the present • 261 D,marui./or (j):Jm1. CHAITRA 28; 1'07 (SAKA) D."",nd,/or Grants 262 (O""val! 1985-86 ,Ge~"'al) 1985·86 policy. I ·,Ihink Ihe oiluahon IS lo,og 10 Re.arding indBlrial man-days 105t, riibl d.leriorate In fact. Jawabarlalji. bef!,re hi. (rom Ihe school day., ..udenll aDd pupil. dealb. underslood tho Iault committed in Should be made aware of the future c•• pan- our planniog livin, more priOrity to be.vy sij>ili(y. Wben several olber count rica arc induSlry and I ....er importance to village and making pro... es., al a very fau r ,~, wby small industrie.. I think the 10yernmenl India i. not able 10 reacb tbeir slandard of should sive more priority to Ihe small and living? Every ODe sbould wod< bard in tbis handicraft sector., becaule it is tbe ODly counlry and Ihat spirit sbould be ineulcated sector which can pr.ovide more employment r;gbl from Ibe childhood. So, I requesl lbe 10 tbe under·employed people in Ihe r ..ral .avernmeDI to make all efforts for inculcat_ area. ing tbat spirit amoDg Ibe industrial workers and otberworkcrs working in tbe dlrfercDt Regardina guidelines for fixing industrial field. Thank you. backwardnoss, I request the 80vernment to r«:onsideF it afresh. The bOD. M inis.ler told I beg to moye : tbe other day that be will reconsider it very SOOD. Tbe basis sbould be "No Industry "That tbe Demand UDder tbe He,d Block". Block .bould be laken as Ihe 'IDdu,u1es· be reduced to RE. l.u cnterion. [Failure 1;0 take Itepe to r '-:OPCD Alumina Plant at Krishna Dev;peta in tbe closed sick mills.] (2) . Visakbapatnam Diitrict.. Geoto.' .... al Survey of ~mand India and Mineral ExploratioD CorporatfQD -, ,Tbat tbe under tbe Head bal established Ibal Andbra Pradesb il Villase and SmaIl Industries by having 30 per cent of the total bauxJCe ore reduced 10 RE. J." and tbe Russian team waS asked to submit a [Failure to give prtority 10 Village report. They submitttd a report. I"II:cquest and SmaU Industries over heavy tbe government to take up tbls Piant at industry to create more employment Krishna Devipeta in tbe national interest, oppnrtunities.] (4) The Mangalagi ri Tyr~s Project IS awailing clearance from tbe government. She Liceos- SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY ing Committee bad considered and approved ·(Hind.cpur): J beg to move: issue of Leiter of Inlenl on 22.5 1984, but Ille cleranee from Ibe Economic AFfairs "That tbe Demand under tbe Head Committee of the l:~jon C.:t:;::ct is a·"".::d!ed Industr; •• be reduced by Rs. leO." for tbe last one yC'ar. J requeDt the hOD. Minister to Jook into it and grant c)earancc [Need for allocating funds for Ilart· of the Committee. ing indllstrtcs in backward areas particularly iD Rayalaseema in There js scope for a diamond industry Andbra' Pradesb.] (3) in Andbra Pradash and in my constituency, Nandigama in Krishna District Tbere are SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY (Alipurdwar): ample opporluniliea for development of I bel. 10 move : diamond and precious ItODf'S industry. 6;'Tbat tbe Demand under the Head R~g.rding ligbt vebicles manufacluring Village and Small Industries be voits in Medak, it was promised by tbe reduced by Ra. 100." late Prime Mini'tcr, Shrimati Indira Gaadbl. We arc very happy that tbe foundation stone [Need to provide a ••!sUlnce 10 the was laid. Now it is learnt (and we, Ihere rqral artisan. of Tuf_ngRDj. West fore rear) tbal tbe Ellgine manufacluring Bengal tbroulh West German ex- unit is Dot aoinl to lte let up tbere. I ~t&.1 (5) requesl the goyernmenl DOl to 10 back on Ibe promise and include Ibe Enline manu- "ThaI Ibe Demand under tbe Head factUliDI units in tbat organised factory VllIaae ,and Small Industries be productioD_ . reduced by. Rs 100." 263 IHmtJNh I,., Gnn.t. APJlIL Ill, 1985 Dmumd. I'" GrQllr. 264 • (G_.I) 19B5~ _(Ge_al) 1985~ [Need 10 open, a Central Footwear Gnvernment hal' do~e .:ommelldabl. 'work· and. Traiains Centre in Cooch during the lut 4 years insof.,. a. Ib;,;r policy Behar, North Bensal.] (6) of iDdustrcalisatjon is concerned. "That Ihe Demaad undet the Head For the proaress of tbe country.. it is Village and Small Industries be c •••ntial to keep tbe economy at"blo. Tbere reduced by. Rs. 100." shoule be 60 per cent total national growth in Qui country and in order to achieve tbis [Need to open a (::cntral Footwear lotal growlb .,f 60 per cent, .bere sbould be and Traininll Centre at Jabalpur.] at Jea!1 eleven per cent growth in indu.strial (7) productioo Pceviously. tbis growth was aboul there or four per cenl, bul in 1983, when we adopted. bela} IicenciDg policy ~ UTbat the Demand under tbe Head Ii ioduttrial activities increased in the country Village and Small Industries be .and Ibe .growth rate reached 8 or 8! per cent. reduced by R<. )00." But this is not eoouab. We sball have to mate rurther progress. You bave adopted [Seed 10 set up a brancb of a liberal licencing policy in respect of small, institute for National Entre- medium and large! scale industries, After preneucsbip and Small Business~ llberaliaing tbe iDdustrial pcJ'licy, industrial at Balursbat in Nortb Bonsal.] (8) activities increased considerably betweeo tbe period (rom 19S0 to 1983. Many industria- "That the Demand under the Head list come forward. I would go to tbe extent V.illag~ and Small Industries be "of •• ying that if liccn,ios pol;cy i. aboli.bed reduced by Ro. 100." there would be industrial boDst in tbe country. You nl!ed not impose any rcstrietioDs. You [Need to set up brancbe. of Small might q,.ve got apprehension that in the case BUSiness Institute in tbc backward of ploce industriel, Ibere will be keen com- areas of Nortb Bengal 1 (9) petition and tbey will run at a Joss. I would like to say tbat you bave Rot control "That tbe Demand under.to Head on financial institutions. Besides, there is Village and Small Industries be the Reserve Banlt o( Ind.a also. 1 (you do reduced by RI. 100." not give loans, the entrepreneurs will not be abl.. to set up indu'tries. J feel Ihat at leasl [Need to provide liberaliled loaos at sec/etariat level, licencing system sbould 10 edncated unemployed in Nortb be abolisbed al>d the,,' sbould remain only Benpl un:!er Self·Employment 6nanciai coatro\. Any industriahst, ':'ho Scbeme II> let up small industrial waats to comrlorw;lrd to let up an jndustry unitt.] (I{)) _!tould be giveD a chance to do so. UThat tbe Demand under the HC:ld Secondly, I would like to pointout tbat Villa,., and Small Indu.,rie. be your planning Department is vcry inactive. reduced by Rs. 100 .. 001,. when there i. acute sbortaae of lome commodity and tbere i. bue and ery every [Need to open a small industrial where, planning is done in respect of that. IrainiDI iDstiruto at Hasimara in Tbi. i. wbat hal happened in case or Nortb Bengal.) (H) cement. Th,y could not Acute note tbat there was acute sbortale of. cement in th, MR. CHAIRMAN, Tbe out motions country. The S8Jl]C ia the poeitioD °in res.. are before Ibe HOUle. ilbri Ban_ri Lal pect of steel. You sbould make plannilla Plltobll. keepinl! ill vi~w tbe principII! of demand aod IUPl!ly. [TralfSfaUollj You bave been layins much streo. OD tbe SHIU 8ANW Am LAL PUROHIT public seCtor undertakinp. Our el f alroc wilb my friend. whn spoke just 1I0W, replaced by p,,,,er loom.. With pOwerloom tbal most of the public uodertaldnp are ooe family can.earn Ro. 25 to 30 pes day. 4'UDDiQJ; at a los·s. Whenever ,.eu want to If there arc six member.. ill a family, tbey m-eot their lQss~ you iDcn;a~e thl: co.t of their caD earn a 800« .mount~ You have to tJroducc by RI. SO per tOil"" beca.use of ,spend RI. 2.000/- 10 provide livelihood 10 your IDOnop"ly in tb~t field. You are olle penon and only one person gets employ- inmindful oC tbe Cact wbetber it bas re.· ment. Tbe textile laws should be simpli- ueled in any suffer,inB to the people or nOI. fied so that others cannot take advantage 01 I feel t~at thi. i, .not the way of meetinll th. tbem. You should make immediate provi '4oss. Instead, you stlould make ~ef(orts to sion for tbe s-cttinl at of powerlooD!lS. Bank. improve their efficiency. You are aware or should be asked to provide subsidy. Lake. larg..scale pil'Ceralle oC coal in Bibar and also of people will be benefited 'thereby. Hence, that mafia Bangs arc active there. But no J request the bon. Minister to give serious efforts bave been made to cbeck "them. tb.ougbt to tbes .. tbings. He.llce, I feeJ that serious thougb' should be . liveD to it. Besides, I would like to make a mentioll about tbe industrial policy. DGTD has It is also DCceury to dev·,lop small·scale impoled restriction in rupeet of medium industries. You have entrusted tbis ';"ork scale iudustries. Cales have Dot bean cleared to tbe State), IDdustrial EstateI' are iet up, ror tbe lalt two to three years. Thes. cases reads are built, sbedS' are constructed aod sbould be cleared wilb.n a ""dod oC one Of water and electricity facilities are pr~ided one and a balt montbs under a time bound by tbe States and with tbis tboy Ceel tbat thoy programme I would lite to mention ab{)ul bave done Iheir. duly. But it is not enough at) important tbing. You have dec18Hd It is very necessary to provide social infra- Mahar.shtra a Do-distdct-indu.tI'Y arca~ s,uuclure abo. Big indu'tria'iols build bous· Is there not~ s.ogle district where a new ing coionies, ·but sm:dl m!lDufacturcn do not project can be sct up? Tbe Maharash'tra mIke arrangement for raciliUes to their work Government lent a proposal for the settiag providing bOllsillB. Besides bOD.iog Cacilily. up oC a petro.chemical complex in the schoo. Cacilily sbould also be provided tbere, Vidarbba region. You sbould counter it. I A dispensary shnuld .lto be 1>rovided tbere again request you to consider tbi. proposal for sick workers... Marketing facilities . seriously. should also be provided. No attention bas so·far been paid toward. all tbese Ihings. It With tbese .)Word •• I conclude. sbould be dODO DOW. Small·sealo industries bave not boeo able 10 prosper in tbe absence [Elllflish} of social infra atruetare, Hence. I request that attention should be paid towards pro- PROF. K. V. THOMAS (Ernakulam) : vidlnB tbese Cacilities. I rise to support the Demands for Grants Tbe problem unemployment is the bigest relating to the Ministry oC lodustry and onc. Figures have been given in tbe r~specl Company Affairs. just now. One bas 10 .pend a heavy "moullt to let employment today. There are certain India has taken giant step. in its marcb sectors in which a large number of penon~ towards ..e 'goal oC industrialisation. Wilen can be·provided witb employment and tbls India acbievad independence in IIM1 we bad problem can tber~ to solved in tbo counlry. to impol't all materials from paper pias to I would like to draw the at_lion DC Govern· tbe prinllq maebiocs, Now it is a matta meot toward. the bandloom weaverS in my of pride for all tbe Indiaus tbat we arc 0 .... state. There are latb. oC _vero ill tbe amOlll tbe ten tctp industrialised dIIlion.. of Vidarbha region.' If one family operates tbe world. Ilegarding tbe number of scieDfists onc handlonm It caonot earn its Iivelibood and technicians we arc next only to America even iC all it. member. work from m;)rning and the Soviet Union, till eveninB Government are making nped prol_ in t ..bnoloay. In these clrcu.mtall- The credit of Ihis deYel""",enl lOOS to "., you Ihoold''_emove the rcatric:tiq,es im_ the villon and imqinatioo of Pand,. II wIto PDSsd 00 _tile,. Haodlooan IhauJd be . bad laid the fouodatioa of the modem 1Itdia.. 267 Dt!mllndl for Gra'1t. APRIL 18, i985 D~ma"d. for a'IIft'. 268' (~'.... rll/). 1985-86 (GeII~ral) '1""5-86 I Prof. K. V. Thomas) Some cIa.. of people wbo bave to be- encourased in this lcetor are women, rural How imaginative be was can be noted /rdm artisans, technicians. Harijans and OirijaDl. a siagle decision taken by bim in setting up .tlldents, educated unemployed and pbysically- Boka -starvalion The reqsons are Don·avaiJabi-lity in th;s respect: I would like to say our .of nuts and secondly tbe industry itself i. about tbe development of the backward being taken away frorn tbe Kecala State. So. area5 because I belong to Eastern Uttar Ir tbls industry is to be saved more and Pradesh, whicb is the most back ward area more cashew-nut trees should be grown in in tbe cOuDtry, Our atate wa~Jt'! to make the State and secondly there ahould be a uni· progress in every field, best it is lagging from WJge p>licy throughout the Country. bcbiod for unknown reasons. We can keep our body be.lthy if all tbe parts of the Coming ,to the major indllSitric., I would body are healthy. We see tbat a part or bring out only two pOints. One is the the county is well advanced. All public sector mismanagement. This can be clearly seen In factories ate being set up there and Dot is. .cocltin Sbipyard, which was startc-d with an in Uttar Pradesh. Tbe population of -investment or Rs. IOU erores and which is Uttar Pradesb is ODe sixth of tbe population now bearing a loss of Rs 30 crores. Wbat ot th., COuDtry but it is a matter of regret is the reason? It is gross mi.iiimallalcmcDt. tbat only 5 perceot public seetor projects One of the ships wbich was recently launched. are these in U. p, 10 this way step- motherly Tile Maratha Miuion. bas made a loss of . treatment is being meled out to U. P. The Rs. 25 lakbs due to the mismanagement of peole of U. p. arc very hard working. the Company. These aspects sbould be In order to get tbe hest out of Ibeir hard tooked i.rto when we ate thinking about our work they 10 to Punjab for harvcsting tbe lOduitrialil8tioD. . Ibe crop and tbere by earn thier livelihood. Some of them are killed in train axidenr!ll aDd, the members of their family mels them [Trarrdalion] ror eveD. SHRI NIRMAL KHATTRI (Faizab;Wj: Wbat Iteps are beiol taken by Govern- Sir. firlt of aU I tbank for glViD8 me a menl for the development of Uttar Pradesh? banco to speak. Wbile Ipeakin. on the I would like to know tbis through this subject, J would Itke to live c.(tain House. I ..ould like to submit something Sll8lcltioDS. abQ,Ut Eastern U. P. from wt]crc I COIDC. Faizabad Division ia pr~ud of havin. ,be There arc no two opal'lltioos that tbe Country's Prime Miniter from Faizabad Congress Government UDder tbe leadersbip of Division. The Minister of State for Indus- Pt. Jaw..ttJar Lal Nehru. late Pnme Mmister tries is also from Faizabad Division. Smt. Indira Ol.odbi and our present Young FaizabaH Diltrec, il located between the Prime Minister. Shri Rajiv Gaodhi have two dIstricts. Whtre from tbey .have beeD played a Ve£Y areat role in tbe indu!itri" elected It i. the Divi.ional Headquarler. development of the country. Too teberat bllt there is no int;\ustry at all. I would policies of tbe Coogreis Government lik= to say that government should do indicate to .. , tbo country is on the way of sometblnll for the development of this progress. 10 thiS contack, our .o~crQmcnt district, recently IlnnouQccd Dew industrial p.3licy and gave fr~sb rec;ntly. Colc=ssio;)1 in ( bave co"'" to know tbat the period Jcspect of iodustriel, These cocessioos of the Subsidy·Scheme of the Central relate to deliccllsiq certaiu industriel. iocrc- Gov.rumeot meant for the dcvc'opmmt or asinl the investment Jim,itt small scale blckw,ard districts. is ,oina: to e.pire. It industries reducing tbe project import duty has perhaps been extended by one year. from 65 pore.nl. to 45 p:rcont. All tho.e I am of the view that it may be eXlended tbings have paved Ibe. way for Ibe indus' upto the period of the SeVeoth Five Year trial develoPtDont· of the country. I wauld Plan. Ooly tben theae backward districts 'Ca. like to conaratuatc tbe aovemmcnt on be developed iDdustrialy The Faizabad. BiviDI lop oriority to the development of diltrict comes under tbe Central Subsidy backward diltru'tl. Tbey hare taken ia Scheme. Its Tad. Tehsil bas 001 iJaoII decision to sanction Ro. 2 Cl"l>t~ ror inclnded ·ill this scbeme for UDI:IlOWD "rovidi.,. infra IIrUClun: in tbe backward r"'&IOnl. If Ibis back_rd resion is to be 4esprils. We an: determined to 110 ahead. developed, tbe entire district abould be 271 Df!mlllld.! 1m Gram. APllIL 18. 1985 _D~mrmdllor GrtiJil. 272- (General) 1985.86 (General).198S-86 [ Shri Nirmal Khatri 1 I may bere give an ""ample_ Despite- 11.6 pet cenl increase in Ibe ailricultura~ brouaht under this scheme. If an industry production in 1983-M4, tbe maoufacture out- bappettt to have boen up in a 'Tehail and put. have increased only by 5 per cent over OD tbat basi., tbe said ocbeme is witbdra WD tbe period of April to November, 1984- from tbat Tehsil, Then I feel it will not be compared to that of tbe previous year, In proper. You will have to n:consider ,this other words, even a massive increase ia tbe matter. I would like to draw your attention agricultural production, did Dot put' enougb t9wards ODe tbiDg more. I am a youngman. purchasing power in tbe bands of the poor Everybody knows that there is large uo_ people. employment aOlOog tbe youth in the country'- I n:member Ibe speech of our leader, • be Tbe cotton te"tile industry continues to- late Smt, Gandhi, which Ibe made on 15tb bc in recession even after 2 massive bumper August from tbo rampar •• of Red Fort. 10 barvelts~ How arc we gOj~B to race tbis lba. speech sbe had given the idea of self problem? Our inter.nal market has 001 ex· employment scheme to remove uoemploy- panded dUD to less purcb~si,Og power'" in tbe· meJ!t. Today. tbis scheme bas become bands or common people. Wbat is needed a victim of corrupt jon because the red DOW is tbat we must take the initiative to tuprum prevalent in the bank. and tbe low break the asset ownership and must also put target fixed ~for this scheme. Government more purchasing power in tbe hands or will bave to adopt measures to lame tbis common people. But we are not doing tbat. scheme from tbe red tapism is the banks We are still doling out more and more tax and the rampart corruption. In this context, concession"to monopoly hous~s. and cepita- I _u.Id like 10 suggest Ihat its target should- lists. On 12th April, the FinaDce Minister be raised in order to save it fCQm tbe annouDced the import liberalisation policy,. rumpaut corruptioll. I feel tbat some way in respect of commodities whicb aD with out should be found to cnsure coordinatIon IUxu"y con.umption nf the ri'"'h and the between lootes and the Industries Depart· upper sections of people, for example, auto_ menl I bope that tbll House and Ihe mobiJes and electronics. Minister of industries will definitely into account the views expressed by me and We see a clear shift from the previous find a .olutioD to this prob'em. Industrial policy of the Government which. was announced in J 956 by the then Prime Minisfer. Sbri Jawabarlal Nehru. This is. not a new thing. Actuaily. the shIft bad- SHRI AJOY BISWAS (fripura We.t): started jD~1980. 1n 1980, tbe Government Mr. CbairmaD, Sir, at the outset, I sball annouoced some mdustrial policy. At that apeak about the basic pr.blems of Industry. time. all the mega) expansion was legalised TIle basic problem i. the long-term stagna· and more facilities were aiven to the mono· lion in tbe real growth of industry. What poly bouses. So, tbe sbirt bad already star- arc tbe reasons? The baslC reason is the ted ,n 1980, inequality in the owoersbip of a!l5ets and properties. In tbe rural arcas 42% of the cultivable lands have been concentrated In In tb. Bud,et Speech of the Finance the ban!!. of 5% of Ibe people. Minister, It is a,ated tbat the ceiJing of MRTP companies has been in<:reased from Secondly, tbe growing inequality ID in- Rs. :io crore. °to RI. 100 crore!l. What was. come bas taken a worse Itlm by our budge. Ibe demand of tbose companies? Tbe tary policies, wbich impo"" beavy burdens demand was 10 increase tbe COIling fcom R •• upon tbe Pf;'OI people, while giving more fax 20 erores to Rs_ 50 crores. But our concessiohs to tbe rich. for financing the Goyernment is 80 gcocrous.to the capiralists. public el[penditure. The resnlt i. tbat tbe Ihat tbe ccilling b .. been increased from RI, demand for indu.. dal good. of tbe vast 20 crores to RI, 100 crores What does it _" of population remaiDs limited and mean? . It meaDS tbat tbis policy will defi- atagnant Secondly. Ibe lI'owtb-of investmenl nitely opon tbe IDdian marke' for .b" itself bas ""me to a halt. muilinational •. 273 CHAITkA .28. 1907 (SAKA) lHmtllllh fDr GrtJItt. 274 (Ge".. al) 198$086 The GoverntDeg.t has also aDOOuDced We bave been taking loans from IMF. tile policy on tecbnolcgy. We have nol There bas been a shirt in tbe industrial bIHld up ally . indigenou. technology. Tbe policy from 1980. Tbis policy will definitely aulomebile industry wal set up in 1950. be di.astrou. fnr the growth of tbe aational . WbeD any tecboology become. on solete then economy, achievement of self-reliance and we go to the,roreign market. Ibe objective of equality and social justice. We have taken to t~e typical t~chnolollY I would like to tell you about the "re- import. Initially, we almost brioa the entire sent industrial lituatioD in Weat Benpl. commodity. If nor. we bring the compo- There are 36 sick and CloSed industries ia nents and a ( Shri Ajoy Biswas ] aianl hyde! projects are in nortbern States. Similarly, bIg cell "a] public ••ctor under- HTbe per capita power consumption taking!rl are tbere In nortbern States, ·It is no in tho north-eastern resion is exaaaeratioD to say that in this regard 2S kilowatt bour comparod 10 Tamil Nadu has been Dealected. There are tbe national average or 120 DO big induatrlal undertakiD.. of CeDtral kilowatt bour. - Surface toads Government in Tamil Nadu T~mil Nadu IS tbe .region bas 4.1 kms of confronted with recurring drought and surface roads 'per 1-00 sq km industrial slagaation. rn tbc whole·uf as agamsl tbe national average India. Tamil Nadu bas the largest numher of IS km.. Only 22 per cent of educated unemployed. This is an Indica- of the area in tbe reeion bas tion or industrial backwar-doess of Tamil beell covered by geological and Nadu. . minc.nd surVC'y as agaiost the national average of 44 per cent." • I take tbis opportunity 10 demand that the Cement Corpa.ation of India and tbe Tlrerefore, you sbould do 10mel,biDg for Paper Corpotation of India must be directed the nortb-eastern region. to establish' Iheir unifs in Tamil Nadu. Tamil Nadu has tbe lar.e.t Dumber of Tile.. wal " proposal to set up a paper lanauage newspapers, English dailies, mill in Tripura. Tripura is rich in forest lanlUlge Weeklies, For'nigh.lies and abo produce. Actually Ibe State Government Moothlies as also magazines in English, AU i. roody to belp.o all aspects. Tbere was the Dewspnnt required for .thls consumption a proposal to .et up a pap:r mill witb a has to come from northern States, The capacity of 150 tonnes per ,,"y, but tbe Paper Corporation of India should but up Central Governmenl did not accept that. ~ newsprhU unit in Tamil Nadu. Than the State Government sent anotber proposal for a mill with a capacity of 30 tonnes per day. They are not accepting Similarly, TaQlil Nadu Government is thai also. I do nol bave much time. in tbe forefront of slum clearaace work. The Slum Clearan.ce Board of Tamil Nadu My only request is Ihal Ihe Cenlral bas earned encomiums from international Government should come forward and do organiSltlODS for tbe pionceriol work being somcthio& for the norch-eastern relion, done In tbis field But the work is impeded for want of comeut Hence the Cement [TranslatIon) Corporation of India must he asked to put up a cement unit in Tamilnadu_ For both. 'SHIt! R. JEEVARATHINAM these units. vast tracta of land in Bana- (Arakkonam): MC 4 Chairman, Sir* in varflM Watajah area of North AreDI are support uf the D.::m.).ods f~r Grant, oC the available. It is u1l:drrstood that the Defence Mioisuy of Indusuy aDd Company Aftairs, Ministry is making -efforts to have a unit J wish to say a few wOrds. here beoaule of tb" suitability of land. In tbis background, tbe Paper CorporalioD of In bis public speeches aod in his Iodia cao bave the plant hele because we addresses in Conference-s and Semi nan, have four bil sized cooperative sUlar mills our dyaamic Prime Mloistl!t ~ Stui Rajiv .in Nortb Areol ; in other words, the raw GaDdhi bas "been streSSing tbe necessity for matl'rial bagasse is available in abuDdance baluced !levelopmenl of induslries Ihrou- for the paper mill ThR wilL also help Ihe .bou, lhe country. He bas been clearly rehabilitation of a large number.of ex-service enuDciating poliCieS (or avoidlDJ induslrial men of No;lb Arcot DIstrict. I have to imbalance. In We.t Bongal, Bihar aDd in breing to .he notl"" of ~he hon. Minister Madbya Prad•• h we bave la(JIe It ••l mills. Ibal North Arcot District of Tamil Nadu .Th. peltoleum prodllcl. arc made in is contributiog tbe farlest contingent to OUt' Mallar.~btra: OUjarat aad Assam. The- Indian Army. We have 10 bear in miD" Ihe ...vices rendered by tbe people of Tamil ·The _eh was oriSinall), dIohvercd in Nadu to Ibe DOuDlr)' aad tho Central Tamil. GovcrDment should establisb the publ~ 277 Demandsfor Grants' CHAlTRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Demandsfor Grants 278 (G~neral) 1985-86 (General) 19&5-86 sector paper unit as also tbe cement lilli' in must be allotted to the local people Similarly Nortb Areat District. I sugllest tbat a public Kctor leother Ilar- menta factory sbouJd be set up in Ranipetla,_ In RaLliptUai we have tbe BHEL unit NDrtb Arcot Diltrict experts "'atb.. and employing 2000 wockers ..Lait year's p.rodw::· .ar~ts f"reign exchansca There j. growiDI tion was .... 80 crores and tbe profit was "elnand ror leatber garments In foffian eltimated to be Rs. 7 QrOlU, SOIDe EDgio'cer- countries. Hence I suggest tbat a sophistica- ing wOf'.kers and other labour a're carried on ted and modero 1e~tber garments factory N M R basis and are work'i", On ad boc sbould be sct liP by tbe Central GDvernment basis. Takina sbelter u.mor the plra that the in Ranipettai. We will be able to earD more Centre bas directed the stoppage of foreign exchange by sending leather rec:cu"meot. the BHSt... management garments. #I terminated the services of ad hoc workers. I understand tbat f[Om 1.4. 1985 tbe ;worbrs I demand that a scooter manufacturiDI are beinl: taken back. I om afraid tbat tbe uDit sbould also be set up in RaDipeltl1l in'erests of NMR iabour arc being brusbed because aU . the iorrastructuIc rectJiIY is aside~ Workers from outside the State are avilable there_ beiQg taken. Even sanitary wOlkers are beiDg brought from outside the State. This Our bon. Prime Minister, Sbri R"iV may iC3d to an "agltaticnal cIimlte in Rani~ Gandhi has welcomed geeater participatioD pettai. I want tbe bon Minister to enquire of foreign capital in the industrial growth into this and stoP. this wrong policy af of tbe country. When such foreign capital BHEL. Si'Dilarly, tbe lIHBL managemen' is flows in (or the establishment of... industria) buying auxiliary equipment from private units in Indja, sucb foreign collaboration sector units fram outside the State Simi .. units sbould be set up in Tamil in order to Luly, tbe shops constructed within the establish industrial baJance in the country. factory·bave been let out to outsiders No tenders are being called for auxiliary In conclusion, I suggcst that BHEL equipment as also for the Ibo.ps. Nalurally, should be directed to fully utilise tbe tbose who have given the land to tbe BHBL instalJed capacity, that a sophisticated factory and their dependents are nqt letting Jealher garments unit should be set up in their dues in the 101m of employment and Ranipetlai by lb. Centre, tbat a ne... papo:r hvc-ubood. I want the hon: Minister or llnit should be establisbed by the Paper Industry to enquire into this and tak.e Corporation of India and that a Cement appropriate action to do justice to the local Uoit sbould also be set up by Ibe Cnneat people here. Corporation of IDdia &jId tbat a leootor uDit should be also establisbed in Ranipetlai. Peelently, the BHEL is utilili.og only 35%of installed capacity If installed capacity With tbese few words I lupporl tbe is utilised 100%. tben 400G more workers will Demands of t~. Indu.try Minislry, get job opporlunities ; in other words, if BHEL util~es fully tbe installed capacity, [Engli.h] then 6000 workers win hav¢ their livelihood. Presently only 2000 wOlkerl are worting for tbe utilisation of 35% installed capacity. SHRI R. PRABHU (Nilgiris): Mr. I demand tbat BHEL must be directed to Chairman, Sir, I ris. to suppert lbe utilise ful y _the installed capacity so that Demand, fDr Graats of the Ministry Df justice is done to the people who have given Industries and Company Affairs as brouabl land to tbe faclory, as morc job opportuni- before tbis august HOUIC by tbe Han. ties will be available witboot aDY expansion Ministe,r. programme of ,he UDil. I have writlen a lelter to the Cbairman of BHBL about Sir, industrial production bas sbown • these tbin... I scct tbe lond offices. of tbe rate of growtb of 5:8 per cent iD tbe Sixtb Plan period. This is a IUtle less Iban our hOD. Minilter iD ensuring tba t lbf'se are done by BHEL. larleted planDed rate of ,rowtb. Now we are on lb. thrcashold of the Sevenlb Plan Similarly. auxiliary wo.... bop. sbould and the Government has announced some be cOBllrucled witbin tbe factory and tbey important and fa[ ·[e.cbins pDlicy cbange. De_tb for Gr""ls APlUL 18, I9IS lNmcmJ, lor Grants 280' (a_al) 1935·86 (Gmu!ra/) 1935-86 1 Shei R. Prabhu 1 power FDeration. chemical., fertilizers and tranSportahon facilities. in 1hl' industrial policy to augment the tate of atowth oC industrial production. These Our hOD. Prime Minister bas inade a include scv Now, Sir~ I have collected some figures Sirt Pubhc Sector has now come to occupy a very important pOsition in our for the public sector companies: which show that out 201 companies, 91 cornp:mies economy because of its 6lze~ capital or make pre-tax losses One the reasoDS employed and employment generated. 0\ ror tb,s is that probably finance bas not Investment in our Public Sector Under- aCted a1 a c...,nstraiot. Many public sector taking. which number about 217 in te-rms of institutions have not got the same financial loan and sbare capltal~ is aboutl Rs S3 ,000 d"cipJioe as private sector has bt-eD put 10. crores. These figures are as of Jast year. In itt diversity, tbe public sector covers a I wouJd request .be hon... Minister to wide spectrum of core industries and make a cb.se·by-case study or the working fif infft·structural facilities like cement. ste-e' public sector un(lertakings. especially. the al.,.-minium; minerals,. metals, pettolcum: one8 mak1Dll.loss~s. It sbould no! be 281 ~WHIiId8for.G"""'. CHAITRA 28, "07 (SAKA) ~_ds for Grant. (G"nerol) 198J-86 (General) 198$-&6 difl'icull bocau~ tbere are only ZI7 com- I tbink that because of tbe lIlIP between j)IIDies in an. demaDIf and production we will lose about R. 2S crore. bY way of foreign excll_e. There i. • Department called 'Tbe "Tbe bon. Finance Mini.ter baa allo referred Bureau of Public ElIlerprise' )I baa only to Ibe imparlance of tbe scanDinl technique become a statistical and intelhlcoce room; and medical equipment and in ,bi. budget il doe. not have any teetb. J reQuClI Ibe speech, he announced thl! withdrawins of bon. M inisler to lICe tbal tbe Bureau of cuatoms duty, OD cut scan ~qujpmeDt in tbe Public Enterprises deveJops moJ;'c teeth and scanning knowhow and other scannin& tbey monitor companies which are making medical equipment. losses and implement any [(medial measures whicb are necessary to iDcrease their. Sir. it is more than a year since the· productivity and offk:iency. Hindustan Photo Films bas entered ilJto a Memorandum of understanding with Depout.. Anotber reason is probably Ihat most of But really notbing bas bappened so far. So, our projects are not completed in time. It I would request tbe bon. Minister to please is more a rule rather than tbe exception. see that tbe amount of Rs. 160 crores. I request tbe hon. Minister to ensure tbat required for this project is included in tbe projects are not delayed thereby reducing Seventh Plan and this work is implemented cost escalations. at the earliest. J would like to make a mention about Sir. there bal been a lor of controversies one particular public sector undertak.iDg about the colour film project which js a'~o Vtbleb is in my constituency N ilgiris in Tamil supposed to be situated in my constJtuem.Y7 Nadu,.tbe Hindustao Photo·films CompaDY that is, Nilgiris. I have only one contention Ltd. PrcscnUy they are manufacturioB Cine to make here, This project costs about positive black and wblte. Crne sound Rs. 1SO crores and there il a collabor.tioD negative; Black anel white B[omide paper agreement With Arga Gavert of BeJgium for and Medical X·Ray film.. Tbis company tn's project. If this p'roject is 5iluated or bas had lot of difficulties in the inital stages put up anywhere else in tbis country. the but after 1976,. they have started making cost c.icalation will be ~O% or mon::~ So,. 'Profit. They wiped out aJl their losses and the cost of the project of Rs~ 150 cores in tbe last two yea_rI tbey bave star fed paying would become Rs. 250 crores. I would -dividend. In fact, after tbe new Govern- therefore request the hon, Minister to please ment turn over.. tbis year, HlDdustan Photo look into ,bis aspect also aod lake all Films paid tbe first divideDI cheque of Rs. 50 malIers inlo' cocsidel'ftioD before final lakbs. Tbey have now got a. turn·over of decision is establishing colour film project Rs, 100 erores. But un'fortunatelY their is taken. - tecbnology is or 1960 vitale. As we are ali aware, photo technology has made tremeD- Sir, I welcome the Qovernmeot's state- dous stride in the last two decades and, what ment that the conce!SiODS offered for 6no is available now in the market is of a com- industry district' will cootiDue upto-1986 But pletely Dew generation, There is a proposal I would like to point out that in Tamil Nadu for expaIl'Sion of the X .. ray film uDit of we bave no district which bas been declared Hindustan Photo Films at Duty_ In fact, as Cno industry districC. . it is probably Dupont of America has agreed to give or because Ibat in Tamil Nadu small .pianini transfer of its tecbnology and 19 auld like 10· mills have been set up all over the place and bring to the notice of the hOD Minister that thes.e spinning mills at present would cost Dupont has not Biven technology nr trans- more tban Rs. 25 lakbs. I would Ibererore ferred the technology to anybody else in the request the bOD. Minister 'kindly to consider world and tbey arc tbe leadina manufacturers changing tbe criterion for identifying -no of X·ray film and bave tbe best technology. industry district' from lh. 25 lakbs to Rs. 1 Sir. a8 you arc aware. X~ray is a life saver crore~ I think this would Oe most reaSOa- and Ibe recent development in CAT SCAN able. If be i. not able to do tbal, lbe techniques and scabning techniques in Government should see that at least one 'DO ncurolOBY and cardiololl' has increased tbe' industry district· in every State is declared. need for X-ray 6Im.. In anotber Iwo yea.. , Tlti. rooy be done in consullation witb tbe 283 Demands for Grants APRIL 18, InS De~dsfor Grants 284 . (General) 1985-86 (GeMrtlf) 1985-86 Sbri R. Prabbu] city, so that an equitable apportionment i .. necessary: Tbia concepl mUlt be true of State GovernlJ1.ent concerned. Probably the our' country three or four decades .&0, since districts whtch bave tbe least industries or DO tbe great paradox that fal'ed our ~Dl., al i~duatries could be indentified as ·no industry the advent of freedom is poverty in the district'. Thank you. midst or plenty. But our country bas siD~ marghed a long way towards the bandloom industry in which several lakhs of democracy~ lat;Jour is a partner in the wOlkers are I:ngapd. In my cODstitucncy commoo tuk of development and sbould in Triv8DdrulXt alone. there arc more than partiCipate- 10 it with enthusiasm. What a 20,000 workers whD arc cngaged in this noble concept ? BIl~t is Ihe picture at iodustry. R.ecently. a legislation bill been hom •. ' The otber day the boo. Minister passed to reserve certain items of textiles for Steel. Mines and coal while replyins 10 for exclusive production througb the band· the debate has preseoted a IbockJDI case or looms. I request that tbe necessary a public sector undertakiol ..here 1bere '5ubocdinatc: legislalion may be pas~ed were more than 400 strikes in an year aT without delay aod urgent steps taken to 365 days. What a shame and disgeace; ensure the following: Unles, a nation is self-diSCiplined how can it survive, not to ~peak of progress? This (i) unintonupted supply of yarn Oil a i. a great chall.nge facinl the wbole nalion. reasonable and competilive rate. I request that the Government sball come forward boldly to accept tbil challellge aod (ii) payment of subsidy without delay. make qcces!!oary leaislatiotls to root but tbia evil rrom the country. I have two concrete (iii) facility for marketing the entire suggestions ia this respect. (1) Govern.. band loom products throuBb the ment sbalJ pass a U!kislation' restraining all societies or some alb" aaency rorms of s.cs in a new industry iD tbe enabling the workers to get pay- first five years of its inceptioD, Worker. mont Ihen aod there. , and maoagemeot _liall be bound by a 10 this connection, I would alia plead mutural contract entered IOto at the time or that since all Ibe infraature fscHiu and raw recruitment of tbe wMkerl. (2) Tbe" materials are readily available in the Government shall very boldly come witb Tlivandrum disltlet, especially 81 VeUarada a leaislalion tbat there shall he only one and Chemboor ar~a for the manufacture of union in an industry. Though we may cement. G.overruncnt ..roilY take urgent sleps have to face the opposition trom the velted for conductmg proper survey aod for interests. I an sure tbat tbe whole natioD e.nabhsbiog a coment factory in thilt area. will 'Stand uDlted with tbe Go\·crnment to face tbis cballenge. It would also go a Sickness in industry il another major .loog way. if a few or our labour leaders threat facing the growlb of industry are sent to lome of the developed countries especIally in Ihe public sector. There can like- Japan, to have an" orientation course on be many reasons for the sickness ia tOdullcy labour leadersbip. including the acts or commilsioD and omissIon on tbe pa['.( of Government. The fllture of tbe country depends OD Howcvetl mismanagement is the main cause how best we utilise the rich resoutce of of licknels in many casc.. A number of man power at our command The hoD. steps are now beina taken to deal with tbis MiDlster of Healtb aod Family Welfare situation the hOD. MlDister for Finance wbiJe aaswerio8 to (be debate OD demands while presenting8. the Bud&et has siaied that in tbe'Department nf Heallh and Family IBad managers like bad currency will bave "'elfare bas lamented over, tbe over to be kept oul of circulation' This is too prDductloa of man power io this country. lenient a punishment. I wo~ld. sugcest that ~ We can very "ell understand tbe concern or drastic action IbaTI be tuken apinsl rather anauisb of a motber wbo is strivin. perSons who are responsible for mismanaae- hard for DUrJing ane,j, nutoriDg 36 crOfts of ment and in cases of proved misapproriatioD cbildren under her care. But tbe field of or mi"usc o( funds.. persqns rcaponslbJe industry i. tally different. We have to he Shall be prosecuted so aa to bave a delerrent proud or this rich resource of human effect 00 tbe repetition of sucb ertmea. power and as the bOil. Minister for Finance h.. _uuelled let us cbalk out Tbe 19S6 resolution bas rightly pointed schemes and policies for the .development "r out {be- need 'or maintenance of industrial aD effective ploaramme ror the best utllisa.. peace for Industrial proaress. The reso. tion of tbis resource IbrouBb reDeWod lution goes on to say tbat io a sociali,t emphasis on education, environment and tile 287 lHmalHl. for Grtl4t. APlUL II, 19S~ IJIl1f11r1d1/or (hal. (a-.n./) 1985~6 (Od"",l. Jfi85·86· [Shri A. Charle. 15.19 ...... application of sc.ience and technololY.' [SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESWARI There IS a Cbiuclc Proverb (I am lure my frie"'oo the otber side will alIa be Ilad to ;n lhe Cluli'j _r it) wbicb says, Tbe indultrial !ltmosphoro in West- '·If JOU want to plan for a year, Boneal is very much bleak and tbe ind~trial plant corn. If you waDt to units are in sbambJes.. There is no hope in plant for thirty years, plant a tbe days to come and tbe pride of West Beng,,1 will sink into obhvion for ever if Ibe tree. But if you want to plan lndustrie. in West Bengal cannnt be levi- for hundred years, plant man." laliscd. J have come ro.['ward with concrete IUliestions in tbis regard wbich are u We may not J:oe able to plan for buodred follows !- years- but we are definitely plaoniDS foc the next century. So let us plant bleD S:o (I) Immediate sleps sbould be taken 10 that the juatlcc ensbrioed in the Constitution Save the industries which arc nOt y.et not poverty in tbe Qlidst of plent), but closed but on the verse of closure. prosperity in tbe mid It of pleD.lr~may be eolured to the 76 crorcs of oUr brothers (2) Immediate steps .bould be taken to- and s.sters of this IC_ country. Witb tbe reopen tbe closed industries. II' honest hope of a . very prosperous future. nccc:ssary, govcrnment will have to I wholebe.. tedly support tbe demands for resort to take-over andtor nationaliza.. Crams of Ihe Ministcy of Industry and tion. Company Affaics. (3) New industries botb Imall and larce KUMAR I MAMATA BANERJEE (Jadavpur) ; In support of tbese demands, I sbould immedia\Fly be sot up witb sbort frnition lag and bigb fruition would like to make some of tbe important -c()ooerricient. points. The indultrial sceDe in West BeDs_I is ditfeceut fcom the (est of India for a Dumber of reasoos. 23 pet cent of India's (4) As tbis is tbe int"cnalional year for sick industries belong to West Benllal. • In Ibe youths 'lew self -employment my opioioOD this sickness bas resulted schemes should be introduced. primarily farom cODslancy or Welt BeDgars' agricultural production during tbe Jast The policy of tbe Central Government S year. Power sbortages, West Bengal regarding Sick industry catels for mod.ficetion. Gove[nmeDt~s lack of initiative ia the to effectively tackle tbe sick units of West . industrial field, C. P. I. (M)'s faulty trade Benlal. The Goveroment of Welt Bengal union activities aDd misuse. divcnioD aad is indirrercnt to. Don-intercsted-nay disin- _te of funds earmarked for tbe io Central °Government for bclp and redress of mill owner. are on tb" on~ band exploilUlI differcal economic maladies. ~ jule am_ro and 00 Ibe other deprivml Ibe jute worke.. of tbeir real _co: I bavc one mole lpecific suggestion NationaUlalion or procurement. and distri- re.. rdinl sick unil.. If a sick unit i. closed bution of raw jUl. ate tbe only remedies left down, all empio, ec. of Ihal sick unit should OpeD for Ihe long run survival of the io- be absorbed elsewhere. Most of tbe dustty, In fact, there i. no lack of demand Central Goverf!lDenl und.rlakings in Welt for juteand jute product. and no Ibotta... Bengal are lufr.I ing either rrom lack of of raw jute aDd bence tbe problem ia a crea- funds or (rom mismanaaement. tion of Ibe jute mill owners. So, .teps should be taken immediately at botb State Tbc IRCI has turned out to be "n in' and Central level.o In West Bengal on.. effective and worthies! institution in tbat After another jute min units are being closed it discbar.el almost no duties judlled by any down and Ibe Government Ibould take Criterion or efficiency.. I demand immediate immediate . steps 10 reopen the closed inquiries into tbe functioning of IRC), unitl. because it is very secl!,us matter. J wish to raise anotber important point. Sbri Indcajit Gupta a few days ago said Some companies like M. A. M. C. t JCSIOP' tbat it was tbe poUcy of the Central Govern- Burn, Braith Waile, Blidse and Roof, Vicco ment to mlke West BengaJ a State of dying Lawrie. Scott and Saxby, Bharat Process, industries. I re-gard Shri Ind.rajlt Gupta Bengal Ponerjes ale sufferiD8 from losses very much. But this is a political lie; it not becauoe of ineffic.ency but because of shou1d be proved by action in the field. non~su.pp]y of Jaw matenals. I request tbe West Bengal is ga'tping and reeling in load .. hon. MiDls'cr to Kindly look into tbis. shedding and suffering feom various shorrate! I would like to rai6e some otber points and as the Mal xist GQvernment of Welt also. In West Bengal Sleel & Allied Co, is Bengal bave utterly failed in every field tbe closed down for the last five year.. lbe Ceotlal Government will have to play the CITU is solely responsible for tbe .:Iolute of role· of a saviour in tbat tbe Central Govern- this unit where 5,000 employets are ment wiH have to solve (he problem of employed o ' Immediate steps sbould be taken !!icknes~ and unemployment with all sincerity~ 10 open k Many workers are already dead efficiency and Quickness. Any delay in or tbe rest are about to die", I lequest the action will shatter with Ihe C'conomy of West han. Minister to J()ok: into this as it is a Bengal. very senous matter. 10 the case of small scale industry, West Sri Lokenatb Cotton Mill i. lying closed Bengal is 11150 lagging br-hiod. 'Small is down for tbe past about eilbt month•• beautiful' is the spirit of India, it is the Krishna Glass Company is to be nationalised essence of Gandhism al distinct from immediately and tbe Government of Wesl Marxism. For tbe developmenl of sma1J o Bengal sbould be accommodaled as far as scale and cottage industries the Government possible for nationahoing tbe same. This I. of West Bengal has DO yeal''"wise and definite my' bonesJ request to tbe Hon. Minister. plans. The small scale industries will- make every man of We.t Bengal more well off, To save West Benp! industries must be morc independent, more confident and more revilaJiI.d aDd DOW industriel should be lei dynamic because it involves all tbe lowesl up. Any delay in its planned developmenl level and luaranlcc9 a more equitable distri- will .hat'~r the industrial economy of tbe bution of income. Aa the Marxiao theory State. PICHe do .sometbing in favour of doel nOI lend any support to amall scale Welt Iknllal. otherwise you know always the industries Ihe same i. neslected in West Stai. Government and its Cbicf Minister Benaal. blame tbe Central Government sayiDS tbat tbc Cenlral Government i. doing notbins for The jute industry hal YarioUl prohlems the State. Only the Marxist Government ia wbicb ar. more artIficial than real. Tba jute inlereated, 2111 Demalfds for Grwnt. APRIL 18. 1985 D~mt>ndl for Gra" tl 292 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 [ Kumari Mamta Bamrjee ] financial and lechnical assi$tance for tbis purpose. But suddenly Ihe KVIC dropped • Once Calthale laid wbal Bengal tbinks Ibis ,ural indu.rry like a bot coke io Ihe today, India "'inks tomorrow. Bul now tbe mid_ltream. The Annual R,cpoct of the pOlition Is tbat West B~gal thinks day after Ministry claim. Ibal KVIC bas formulaled tomorrow. The only tbing the Maxist·· 26 rural IDdu.trie. and 36 Iakb. of rural bal done is that was buHt up his son as people bave been g.ven Iheir livellbood. Marxist Papa"s capitalist SOD. Even though But tbi1 Rep,)ft 10; silent about the industrIes the workers remain unemployed, tbc-*. son tbat have been dropped by tbe KVIC. When will be a capitaUst Tbi'S is the present il bas booeD acknowledged by Ibe Govern· "ituation in West Bengal. Worker. there ment ttui.t 'he average daily percapita are dying. Please do somethinl. otberwise income of 36 crorcs of people is Rs. 2.10. tbe workers there wiU suffer a 101. . I wonder in wbat century tbe KVIC will be - upliftiog these people above Ibe poverty MR. CHAIRMAN: The hon. Member hoo. bas mentioned some names. These 5hould nol go into tbe proceedings. I will aho cite ao-.)ther example for the sickness in cottage indu,try on aCCouDt of ·SHRI R ANNA NAMBI (Pollachi): defective Government policy. On the Ma:hm Cbaitm.all~ J thank you very much advice of MiDlstr, of Industry tbat tbe for liviag me (bis opportunity to parnci .. Government should give inducomenU in pate on bebalf of my p1rty tbe All India excise dUlY fot Ih: people 10 lake over to Anna D.M K. in tbe debate on the Demand. cardboard f\1!.tcb boxes, the Fmance for Grants for 19d5 86 of tbe MlDlStry of Minister io bi. 1985-86 Cent,al Budget has Industry and Compan,. Affairs and say a r!'strucrured the exise duty on match indul- few words. try But. unfortuDalely, this rcstruc.turing of exise duty is goiog to erca,tc sickness Acc(.. dina 10 Ibe as.elsmerll made hy in rural match industry. In my Pollachi the GDvernment in 1978, 5 20 crore, of Pa.r1iam~ntsry con~ituenc:v we have many people in scmi-urb..,n areas and 25.28 tiny match units in tbe rural areas. AU crotes of people tn rural area~ ar~ below of them may turn sick because of Ihis poverty hae. It will not be for from trntb changa in exise duty structure. I want the to any tbat in 1985 60% of tbe lolal pop ..• bon. Minister of Industry to look ioto lbi, latioo of the couDtry 15 below pov~rly hac. and take appropriate step. for ensuring Vie will not be abJe to eradicate pov-crty that such tiny unit.! arc not exterminated. by enhancing the investment in agriculture. In eacb Block Ibere sbould be a KYIC lub- Only by giving fillip to Ibe e"ablisbm.nt offIce, whicb sbQuld b. manned by tb. or cottage industries in rliral areas and to local artisan. Tb;m only tbe cottage indust- tbe e~Ublishm,ot of sm llt industric! io ries will grow. semi-u,blO ce'1tres. tbe impJ.ct of p'lverty can b= minimised. We bave lb. National Small Industri •• Corporation, besides tbe Development Commissioner for Small IadIVlries, for Kbadi and Village Industrie. The looking aCler Ibe needs of small unils. Commission wl:J.lch ba-s: been entru~led with The NSIC hlS ils' regional offIce in the onerous task of fttting up rural indu.s- Madras, Bombay, Calcutta and Delbi. tries hal Dot mel with Success in tllii Hundreds industnes have aEso been reserved endeavour. I would give one example ror for slll.l~ so .. !e sector. Inopit. of financial my contention The KYIC took upon and techD'cal assist80cc beiDg rendered by "itself tbe ,a.ponsibility of $elling up matcb tbe NSIC, Ibe Reseva Bank. of India baa units in rural area'S. tho Commission gave declared tnat aboul 60.<"00 small units are sick. The workc.rs are also out of emp- ··Not recorded. loyment l>imilary %0 large industrial • Tbe speech "as originally delivered ia undertakings are reported sick, On the Talllil: one hl.nd we allocale funds for industrial 293 DelTlQnds for Grants CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Demandsfor Grants 294 (Genel'al) 1985·86 (General) 1985-86 srowtb and on tbe other ind.ush ial lickness bappy to stale that a Defence unit bas been i! arowing f ••I. 1 demand thaI effective givrn to Andbra Pradesh, wbich is bei ... s.tep&. should be laken for cOlaining indus.. ruled by Sbri N. T. Rama Rao wbo bas trial sjckness in tbe country. I sl.lig.est initiated the TeJugu· Ganga project which that a Raw Malerials Bank should be let would give ~rinkiDg waler to tbe People of up for smll.1l industries. Similarly. an All Madras. India Marketing Or,anilation should be 5et up for the products of conaae industries. In a place called Karamadai het_ There should ·,be a ware bouse in each Block Tbondamulhur 'Constituency and Motlupa- for storing the raw msterials ror cottage layarp CoDstjtu~ncy in Coimbatore District, uDirs and also for storing tbe finisbed pro- tbe Integral Coacb Factory project was to ducts. The country will ao back to primi- be set up by the Central Government. I tive stages if industrIal sickno$8 is not aver.. do Dot know how this" proposition has been " ted at tb. earliest J am sure tbat tbe bon. liven up DOW. I demand that tbe Intesral Minister of Industry will do every thing in Coach ractory unit should be let up in this regard. Karamadai. The closed textile oliUa in Coimbatore should be opened so tbat tbe The Central Governmeilt bal initiated starving workers arc given back their Western Ghats Development scheme and Iiveli~od. I .""k tbe good offIce. of Ihe allocation is abo m~db in tbe F.vc Year Industry Minister in this regard. The Plans. Tbe Tamil Nadu Government has Alexander Tbread Company in Dwrnapuri also lought tbe approval of Ibe Centre for district is IYiJlg closed for tbe past six a project to develop lhe We.tern Ghat. I months. The workers are on tbe verle of -suggest that permission should be given to starvatIon deaths. I demand tbal tbe Centre the Stare Government at tbe earliest. I sbould ensure "ita reo~DiDg so tbat the have referred to tbis eveD 00 an earlier workers get back. their jobs. I am sure occasion j also demand tbat more funds that tbe hon. Minister of Industry will do should be allocated lor W.stern Ghats his best for tbe industrial Irowth of Tamil Development Scheme. Nadu. In my constituency, Pollachi, the town Witb tltese words I conclude my sp [ Sllr; Um •. Kant Mishra I which are Dol backward but wbere certaim leblils and blocks are back_rd should be Sir, I w&tlt to submit only. 'One thinl. doclrared backward a. recommended by the Bundelkbaod in Eastem Uttar Pradesh i. a Sivaraman Committee so tbat induuriet hilly re,iOD wbicb bas nol been developed could be estabUshed III lIlose places allo. so far .. For removal of poverty, ·it ia very My requesl is parliculary for the hilly region, necessary Ihat alooa wilb aaricullure Ihe Bundclkhwnd alld Eastero U P. industries are also developed tbere, Uttar Pradesh is a very backward State which Th.ere. is- a common complaiot that 'be has been Cleated aflcr marsina five Stales. Pu.blic sector indusstrics do not produce It bas a laTge PoplllataloD. IQ Easterm accordiog to th ir capacity with tb result Uttar Pradesh., (bere is much pressure on tbat they ba\!'e to run at a losses. The bad and agriculture and 1be people are reaSOD for this is that the managers 0 f neOinl 10 Bombay, Calcutta and Delbi in thesc industriel are mainly civil servants. searcb or employment. Many people are We had requested earlier also and today 10ing 10 Ihe Arab counlriel sn IIlat Ibey again I am requesting that a special cadre may be able to earn a livelibood. Theffore, sbould be formed 10 run Ihe Public Seclor kccpina: in vicw tbe backwardness of ll\e areas, iodustries In tbis cadre, thOle persons it has become necessary to induslriAliae should be included wbo bave full experieoce them. But tbe industrialisatioll sbould be of runnin. these types of industries. In tbis done in .su.ch a way that wherever bi, cadre, lAS and other p ..... onnel to can be industries arc establiabed. aVailiD& indus- taten on tbeir merit and in tbis way tbe full tries are allO sct up aloDJI ";Itb them Big capacity of these industries may be utilised. industries do nol solve Ibe problem uftle ..- small iodu9t!"ies alc also set up along witb Now I shall come 10 Ibe poiot I ",an.ed them. Sir, in Uttar Pradesb ccrtalD districts to toucb specifically. Mirzapur i. • Jarac have been declared as 'No industry disricll'.· diltrict baving an are.a of 300 sQ. kms. 10 Ihe disutricls of Mirzaput. Gllazipur, Kerala i. a lillIe bigger than Ibis. III ils Jaunpur. Balia etc tbere is DO industry .. southern part there are coal mJDes and These have been declared as "No i",duslry· power generation pla!'tl and people -wanl diatrictsn and it h.ts alJo been declared tbat to set up new industries in tbal part on]1. in each of tb... districts al least one bia The result is Northern Mirzapur has become industry will be sel up But io Ibe Sixth lotally backward alld people ire migralinl Five Year PlaD, it was Dot possible to do 10. to otber Statc~ I therefore, request tbat jo No b;,lnduatry has !lfen •• t up in Jauopur, Northern Mirzapur al lealt one bia indllStry Bal.a or Ghazipur. should be set UP. Sir, we bad requested that aloog witb Birla. have been liven a licence, per- Ihe district. beine declared backward,lebsill haps in the joinl Sector 10 sct up a 'cachoo' and Block. should alia be declared back- black' faclory. They ...ant to scI up Ih ...... d. You wiU recall Ihat a few years ago factory in Renukut, where their Almunium the- Sivlraman Committee was apPOinted plant has been established. I appeal, who had Submitled there' reporl and had tbrougb you, to tbe bOD Minister aDd stated chal tbe big districl. which dcel not .hrough, him .10 the officials of the Minislery come in the Ii.. t or bJC'kward districts but thai Bid.. should be asked to set up Ibeir where certain tebon. and Block. were ba:k- 'Carbon black' faclory ncar Mirzapur lown ward should also be declared as industrially wberc land, railway facility, water and po"er backward onel so Ihat industrialisation. are Ilvailahle. Coal cao al80 I>e available Couled take pl.co ea.ily there a15o. Today Ihe from a short distance. iDduslfialists want to set up their indu.tiet at places whrre concession. and facilities With Ibese words I support the demands are liven. Therefore, ,hey want to ~.tablish of tbe Mmistry of IIIJa'tries and Company indWllrics at Ihose places ...bieb come uader Affairs. the list of backward districts and not in the diltriClI which are out of Ihis list I, SHRI GIROHARI LAL VVAS therefore. req.... t Ihat thole bi, dislriC:h (Bhilwara): Mr. Chairman Sir, I support the 297 DeltUllrdl f'" CiralOlll CHAlTKA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Dulltlluh /« Grant. 29•. (Ci_rlll) 1985-86 (a."ertt' 1985-86 demand. of tbe MiDist.. or JDdultries and mooqpoJists, but you do not ke~p control Company Affairs. I want to draw tbe aUen- on tbem. Unle.. you keep conlrbl aD tio" of tbe bon. Mini,ter tbat Rajastban i. tbem, 'you will not be able to acbieve indus- a backward state wbere you bave 10 far triar development to tbe extent you WIlDt, investe 1.9 per cent. You bave created. bi. J, tberefore. request Ihat the two biS regional imbo!lancc. The programme for cement factories in Bundi and Sbambbupur rcmov.. 1 of poverty in Rajastban bas lalled for wbieb tbe Central GovernmeDt have bebiued and bal tbus retarded tbe pace of tbe commitment sbouJd be set up. early. development tbere tbougb tbere is larae You have Itarted laying a broadgau&e line ,cope ot developmont 10 tbat State .. you be from Kota to chittor at an expcDdirure never paid proper attention towards Us of crores rupees a"d Ibis line will be development. We bave cOnstantly been completed next year I r you do not set up '88yiog that. Rajas.tban is _. back ward State these industries" tbe whole infrastructure and al1 its district are Do~iDdu8try is district which you are prepariog and the money aod tbere is bi. scope for sellina up of spent On it wiJ) the go waite. Tbis rail todustries. There Sandstonc is available . line WIll pass tbrougb f,ve district. of Kota. tbere witb whicb big cemeot factoties can be Bundi, Bbilwara. Cbittor and Neemucb and establisbed. In addition, maoy minerals if these two cement· factories are set up, .re available in larlc quao. ;ties. In .spite YOD CIID meet tbe cement requirementl or .of all tbis. Government have paid DO the wbole couQ.lJ'y . .attention (awards this. My next submission is tbat Shri Blda You are aware that recently tbe Central bad set up a waaon factory at Bbratpur Government have extcoded the railway line lona back and five tbousand people work from Kota Uil to Necmueb and Cbittor. in tbat factory. I am Dot boldi", any brief Wby bas tbis line been provided ? This line for Shri Birla. but the factory i:'l Dot bas beeD provided because big cement letting orders fcom tbe R.ailway and the factories can be establlsbed on botb sideo re_ult is tbat ' tbe factory i. on tbe verge of af tbi4 line. In tbat area I.arg~ quantities closure tbe factory West IleDgal on tbe .or stODC required for manufactuCJDg cement otber band bas been ,iveD orders. If tbe are available. Today tbere is acute abot[agc factory is closed due to lack of orders• .of cement in our country. and Hundreds tbousands of workers will be rendered of crores of rupees worth of cement being jobless. I. therefore dr... your attentioD imported by uo but wbere tbere i_ IIreat toward. tbis and request thaI the Rail ..~ys ICOpe Cor settina up of cemeDt factorics, .bould give pWcbale order. 80 tbal the there we are not sctting up the factories, factory may not be closed and tbe five On beinl approcbed by tbe Rajaslhan Govern- tbousand workers tbese may not be rendered ment, tbe Plaoning CommislioD and tbe jobless tbere by. Indu.tries Department bad approved tbat tbe. Ceme:t Corporation or Indi. would let up a very big cement factory at Bundl Next submission is tbat today you with 2 5 million tonne. capacity.. Similarly. have made certaio provilions in respect 01 it was' said that a factory with. capacity of of Companies. One of the provisions is 5 million tonnes would be set up at tbat big companies can traaafer 30!ler cent Sbambhupura. In addition to tbe aboYe, of cben assets for opening a new company many peoplc bave been liveD Jicen~ for You bave made tlis provision in tbe COm'" -setting up of cement faciorie.s in the pClvate panics Act. I want to ....bmit tbat i. 30 eclor but no sisnificent pro.rell bas been per cent .'SSets are taken out from the made 10 for. In my district Bbilwara. tbe old induatry for investing in the Dew Bjrw werc given a licence for a cemeDt industry. the old industry will become factor, but work bas not yet been started sick. They set up some more Dew industria on it. Similarl,., licence was i ••ued for a by transferriog that money. They ear. cement faclbry in S ....i Madbopur, but more money aod their intention is 10 cara tb.t too bas DOt becD completed. You have still more malIC)" by.ettiDl up ne.. compa- made your liccnciDl poliC1li1!cral and bave Dies. A I'rovilion ma)' be added it the' IISIIOd lieeucca to theM bi. capitalists .nd Compaoiu Act under which if aD iDcIUSIQ' 299 Demands for Granb APRIL 1$,1985 Demands for Grants 300 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 [ Sbri Girdbari Lal Vya. 1 ment opportunities . He furtber added Ibat tbere ~bould be moro and more coordlnalion "is declared sick, without your permISSion helwccn tbo two. Tbe .....0 policy WH. ••• ••• (/.trrrupltOlf8) Now. I would like (0 presentod before tbe country by OUI Iat.. mak.e a submission about the &elf-entpJoy· Prime Mini.t..... Smt. IDdira GaDdbi iD 1982 _nt scbeme. II is a very good scbeme. and she bad liveD a call for enlurinl How mu-c;h co .. operation are you getting in more production It bad areat impact aD tbis scheme from tbe banks. You bave industries in the country. You migbt bave- Italed in your report Ibal about four Jakh re.d the ADoual Survey of IDdustries for applications have been- received OUI of tbe year 1981·82. The industrial policy wbicb bardly two lub people bave been followed by us and the consequentia.l able to get loan. Banks ar... not eXlending induslria! prolre.s bas been commended in much Co-operation. Every wbere corruption it very mucb. It bas beeD mentioDed in the i. rampant. Subsidy to tbe tune of Rs. lurvey tbat tbere ba. heeD 20 per ceDt 6,000 is given. OUI of Ibis Rs. 3,000 are increase in the field or iDvestment in indus- usurped by book officers and other perSODS tries, in respect of production as also in tho' Either you stop giviog tbem subsidy 01 field of profiit. Not only tbis, while livioJr your increase tbe amouDt of JOBn The banks tbi. slogao of increasinll tbe productivity erade the applicants sent to tbem by the 10 tbe nation in 1982, Sml. Indira Gandhi ofifcers after interviewing them. If they bad said: pay somthing. they get loaDS·. Otherwi&e Dot. Unless improvements are made in this respect in the nation.Used banks. the [English] programmes (or removal of povetty and unemployment will not bear fruit. Some "We must set more out of every arraD8cmenti will have to be made to sel acre under poulb, out of every things righl. spindle and machine, out of cvelY teChnologist and worker, our of SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV (Alwar): every rupee spent. Decision- Me. Cbairman. Sir. I fully SUppall Ibe maldng iuust be expedited, and demands for Grarus pr... nted by Ibe bon. there should be a greater delegation Minister ..Besides, 1 congE:.atulatc the of finaDcial and administrative Mini!ltcr of IDdusttjes~ who bas announced powers. simplification of proce_ in the House the new Industrial PoJicy for dures, improvement in work lbe year 1985 wbicb bas boo.ted Ibe environment. better maintenance- economy, increased production and created of plant and equipmeot fer employment opportunities- in tbe country. increased capacIty utilisation." Tbe Industrial Policy Resolution. of ,I q48 and 1956 aDd Ibe Stalement on Ibe Indus. [Tramlarion] tnal policy of 1980 are the indicators of the • ueecss or tbe counlfY~S jndustrial policy. Extendinl furlber tbe industru.1 policy • Besides,.._ the important step [aken by our aDunci.led by Pt. lawaher La] Nabru and preseot Prime Minister io respect of indus- Smt. ludla Gandbi our pre.enl Prime trial policy js meant for increasing produc- Minisler. Sbri Rajiv Gandbi bas said nol tion and achieving the social objective I one industrial policy .bould aim al preparilll recall wbal baa been slalei by the laIc PI. Ibe country to enler tbe 21st century and Jawabar Lal Nehru .... bile speaic.lDg on the Ibat we bad to raise Ibe livin. .taDdlrd of Industria.l Policy resolution in this Hou~e every citizen and his pe' capita income also,. in 1954. He said tbat we had 10 follow Ibe tbat is wby be bas prelenled Ibe induSlrial policy of nationahsa[ion to achieve success policy befor~ Ibe country in Ibe form of in our coal of usbcaring in tbe· socialistic a naliDal cbarter and ba~ givell tbe following pattern of society. He had furlber laid Ihat call : the object of nationali5atioo should be hlc~sed production and nOD employment [Edgll,h] opportunities and that was only the maiD objec[ of :he industr.ial poJicy was be "I reafrirm our adherence 10 socialism increase production and aOlment 'employ· phlOnio... • •.• Our aim is cODII· 301 D,ma"d. for Grant3 CHAITIl A 28 ,1907 (SAKA) Demand. fo, (i,ant, 302 (Genela/) 198$·86 (Ge"eral) 1985-86 DUOUS modernisation, higher At tbe same ti me, I want to coogratlJIate produclivity and rapid advance of the han. Minister of l~du.try for Iibl!rlizinlJ. social justice." the·industrial policy. He bas DOr considered it necessary for an industry to obtain ao [TraslationJ indu!trial Jicence provided the coae of its plant, machinery and land taken together il These words give u, an important bint. less tban Rs 5 crores and at tbe same time. Tbe a im of our indu!Jtril policy is to in be has dclicensed 2S other industries. " will ",rea"" produc!tivily aDd employment opportu· celta,lDly otfer opportunities to tbe industria- nities in the country. Beside. our aim is lists and entr4Preneurs for sctting up more to create an industrial atmosphere in which industries leading to more production in the the country can make rapid progress4 country. The criticism made earlier of our public 16.00 bro. sector undertakil18s js now DO longer there I I would like to submil to Ihe hOD. congratulate tile bOD. Minister of Iodustries Minister, who is a wise. kn.owledgeable and for this. The public sector is DOW steadily devoted -person that tb~ . domestic eCODomic: carninl a name in the counfty~ They not only liberaHzation be has effected is very imp:Jr'" bave increase their production but also bave tant in itself. At the same time, tbere is a starCed elroiD. more profit. The report need to take a cautious view of your foreign • relating 10 this department clearly shows investment and foreign trade. It has many that tbe Rublic sector is likel, 10 earn about aspects. I "hope that you w;U view' them in R. 27 crore profit durinll 1984-85. Our the perspective of what adverse effect I hey public sector undertaking much as BHEL, bring to our economy. BHPV, H.M.T. bagan Jute Machinery Lid. Maruti Udyog~ etc. are firms or repute and they hive not only increased their production In the end, would like to ·give a sugges_ tion tbat you erf !:ct redllctio:) in tbe prices but they are earning profit also. People while maintainic.g Quality control over the have gol employm~nt through Ihese indigenous production, You sbould erred industries and this policy will definitely reduction in the prices npee-ially 01 the items belp the couDtry march shead. wbicb are used in the rural sector and by the commOD man, such as. diesel pump sets Mr, Chairman. whenevrr the: political in the rural areas, tlaasportation machinery- leadership bas given a call to tbe nation, tbe ordlDary cloth being used in the country people have fully responded 10 that call and side and processed foodstuff. H you effect· have accepted the challenge. When the reduction in their price. is will cODsiderably farmers ware asked to grow more food they boost the country·s economy. did so and the result i. that today our oountry is self.·sufficient in the matter of I aloo want to lay tbat you should free roodgrains. the small and medium sector consumer good. from all constraints and restrictions. Similar!y, we have achieved cODsiderable The raw material aDd other facihties yon progress in tbe field of telecommunications. provide to the cottage iDdustry in the rural I am quite hopeful tbat we shall be able t" areas will lead to increase in production achieve the fixed targetl by 2030 .... and D. there aDd create an environment for the even in the industrial field, our countr)! will cottage industrY. You have given facilities be among the front rankin. countries of the' to the industriest but )0 ou should give more world. facilities to the cottage and Yin... industries I request and hope that you will re·conrider The country will cerlainly march it and !live a package deal to the rural seetor loward, industrial. development as a result similar to the one tbat you have given ia of tbe; liberalized industrial policy. recently respecl of the indu$trial policy. announced by Government, especially, for Iliving enmptioD for inductin!l and import· This is my submission th.lt UDder the in. new teehnol [ Shri Ram SiDgh Yadav 1 tbe nilbt of 15tb April. 1985 in tbe arrected areas. Subsequently, iI was eXlended to otber bio<;k a. a: unit and the block which has DO parts of the walled city whlcb ..ltnesled industry should be lakon .s a norm So communal incide8ts, tbus brioainl molt 01 fU i you hcvc been treating the district as a tbe parll or tbe walled city under. indefinite Dotm, but bflreafter, tbe block ..bicb bos curf_. no industry .bould be your suidi~g factor. A tolal of eleven persons died during I also request YClU 10 develop tbe Grant Ihese riols including' eilbl in poli"" firlDg Panchayat are into an in4ustrial alCa. and tbr"" in slabbings. Twenty-three P"lIple Wilb tbese words, I tbank you. were injured including nine from police firing So far, 213 penon. have been arrested for various otfences. AbDUl thirteen 16.04 hrs. propertie. are reporled to bave been affected by anon. Damase to the ",opery' i. being [EliliUsh] assessed by a team of officers from the STATEMENT RE: COMMUNAL Revenue and Sales Tax Oepartmenls and RIOTS IN AHMEDABAD Municipal COrpoQltion ImmedIate rebef of R •• 20.000/-cach bas been given 10 tbe family THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS members of the five decealed. Furlher relief (SHRI S. B. CHAVAI'o): Sir, tbe House i. for Ibe olher person. killed and Ibose injured a1ready aware tbat Slnce the middle of is also beiDg given as per tbe pre~cribed February, 1985, students in Gujarat started standard. an agitatmn against tbe inClea6C in reSf:[va~ tion (or other backward classes in roadieal Adequate police 'baDdobasl' bas bccn and technical courses. On J.8th Match, (he made in the affecttd areas J;lDd other parts ..tualion in Ihe walled City of Ahmedabad of the walled clfy. The situallOO was took a communal turp: whicb nece5lit~tc:d reviewed on Itlth April and in view of tbe the imposition of curfew as well as deploy· prevailing tension in tbe affected aparts of ment of the Army In lhls regard. J have the city. [he Army was caUed in to assis[ fhe already made a statement bcfoc!C tbis House civir autbority ". e. f. 2400 bours dUJini- OD 21st March. 1985. The situation &ubse- the nighl of 16/171h April. Four c~mpanies queetly had returned to normalcy, However, of Army have been deployed in tbe city for reports bave been received indicating that maintenance of law and order ia addition to once again communal riots have broken out tbe existing State force5 and other _para- in some pans of Abmedabad city from tbe militarx forces. Additional four companies night of IS/16th April following a call for of CRPF were air·lifted on 16tb April 10 'Jail Bharo' given by 'Akbil Gujarat tWali augment the available forces with tbe State Maba ~taDdaJ" and some otber org8nisai~ns Governmment. ]I appears that during tbe night of April 15/16. mobs from NAVAVAS area of the From subsequent reports, it appears that city abruptly litarted heavy Slone pelting the situation has improved to lome extent tOl""ard. a locality inbabitated prcdcminantly since tbe afternoon of 16th April. Till tbis by, a pa,ticuJar community in Gacikwar mOlDing, no major incidents .. ere It'f olted HaveJj Police StaHoD area. 1 he olher c<' mrnu ... thouah sporadic & minor incidents continue oily appears to have retaliated. During the to take place necessitating UIC of force- by proces~, burning rais and acid bulbs are the potice. Indefinite curfew cODtinutl to be also repolted to have be~n used. Similar imposed in 3/4th of Ibe walled city. The incident! continued 10 taken place during 1be siruation continue. J,o remain tense thoullt> course of tbe DiSbt at different places in tbe under coolro1. ' .aBed clIY iavalvil'l use of burning rags and acid bulbs aBainsl the houln Union Home Secreta. y also visited. and 5bops belen.iDa to a particular Ahmedabad 00 16 April. 1985 t<>- .communj,y. . PoJice took immediate make a persona) ...elimmt of the action 8IId bad also to rcoOrl to fir in. 10 situatioD.. We ale in close touch ",itb- conlrol the ,s,iluatioD.. Currew was imposed the Slate autborili... I bope and trust that for ao iodt!finitc period (rom 12.30 a.m,. 00 lakinl inlo account the prescnt liluaJioD~ 305 Demondsfor Grants CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 306 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 ail sections of people will contribute to the there were man-eaten. I do not know restoration of normalcy in Abmedabad aDd wbether such human beings who ate men also ensure that there is no breach of peace were there or not. It may be frue or it may else where in lhe State. be a filmeDt of imagination on the part of the poet who wrote tbe poem. But in tbe SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN (Coach 20th century. I know for certain tbat Behar) : Madam, it is a very a serious thing. monsters are rcared. They are Done but the big industries in the public sector and private MR, CHAIRMAN: No clarific.tion, 1 sector. They are eating into the very vital. don't allow.: please resume your seat. This is of the common men in our country They • statement made by the hOD. Minister. No devour mHlans and millions of common men clarification on th:s. in our society. It is really deplorable that (Interrupt ions) most of these unfortunate people either bail from the rural parts or )lve in slums iD the MR CHAIRMAN: Now 1 call upon CltlCS I would like to recall tbe memory Mr. Sbankaragowda. of my esteemed fr end to one important observation rr.ade by Mahatma Gandhi. Tbat observation runs tbus : "The industrial 16,09 bar policy of fhl!; State sball be in accordance [Eng/i,h] with the needs of the society and not to satisfy the whim or greed of any individual". DEMANDS FOr> GRANT (GENERAL) If my dear friead understands the real spirit 1985-86-CONl D. and sigmflcance of thIS great observation, then be wil1 really think over or re-think .l/inistry of Intiu.'1iry and CompmlJ' about the costly proposats that he bas placed Affairs- Contd before this august House. In my opinion. manv of the hill indu"tries are nn' ftf all S!! !". I v v ~~:"a~:::_:... r... /.-'::::::~:·"::::", necesary for the survival of our society. (Mandya): Madam Chairman, I wish to Many of them are meant for producing express my sense of gratilUde (or giving me luxury goods. which the common man this opportunity of speaking a few words on cannot eat. There is DO use or need in a very imp~lrtaDt subject which involves investing ~uch huge amounts of money in crores and crores of rupees from our Excbe· producing luxury goods in a country like quer. It is a matter of immense pleasure ourl, where mi lions and millions of people to state that I had the eoort fnrtune to work are b.Lruggiing even for a monel of food. with a C)OiiC friend of mine \\bo is now There are mi.llions and millions of our incbarge of a big Departmcnt. brelhern whom we see in rags in I had tbe good fortune of working with the s.treets. We sec people slowly him as the Education Mini'S.ter. Now, I have dying of starvation. When such il lhe misfortune of oppmiiDg him in this the condition, are we in a position [0 invest House for various reasons. Anyhow, being such huge amounts in luxury goods? Arc a vcry close friend. I do not think, he wiH cosmetics necessary for us? Are colour mistake me. On the other hand, I do hope televisions necessary for us, or arc other tbat whatever reasonable argument tbat I costly things necessary ror us? What is the put forth iD·thi~ House will nGt vanish in question before us? What is the problem wilderness bur wiB brillg out something before us? What is the impact through concrete. With tbe~e preliminary remarks, which our society is passing today 7 It is I would now wish to take up the subject, tbe question of acute and absolute poverty, namely, the demands for industry. squalor~ misery, illiteracy, ignorance and what not. According to the estimate of the Madam, it is not my intention to deal in planning Commission themselves Bet up by detail about the various items adumbral('d the Government of India, S4 per cent of our in this particular demand. I wish 10 concen- population is below the poverty line. What trate upon only one lmportant ittm~ viz. are the concrete proposals given by the Khadi and Village Industries. We: have read Government of India to lift tbese people in epic poems about monsters. It i. laid tbat above tbe poverty line 1 What is tbe aleney? 367 Demands for G,.a,,!~ APRIL 18,1"85 Demands for Gra'"s 308 (General) /985-86 (General) 1985.86 [ Sbri K. V. Sbaokaragowda J Minister. "ho seems to be progress1\'e minded, who seems to have a broad \'ision, You have got "geocies for oth.:r sections of to think. ahead of tbat time: and provide a society. They have: got .such a feeble voice huge sum of money to tbis Board, service tbat nobody can heae {hem. They are motivated Board and ask tbem to work. in uncared people. If there is aoy section of the rural areas for Ihe sme)torauon of the the socielY which is most forgotten, which conditions of the dowD-trodden and the is mlst subject to explOltation. it is the rural poor. population, which consists of 8U per cent of the total population. Tbese people wbo are Khadl and G.ctndhiji alwa)'c go together; below tbe poverty line, a majority of them, they are synonymous lerms~ One thmg Ihat are liVing in the rural parts and alums of tbe was very dear to the heart of Gaodhiji was city What is that ytlU bave done for thOle Khadi aod Chart.ha. He wOIk.ed and loiled people? \Vhere are the proposals for those for a p.:riod Qf 25 yea.rs for the resllscilatioD people? There is a Kbadi aDd ViHage of CIz.Jr""a and propagation of khadi. Industry Board. This is the only agency which we can t link of to life these people It was not for faDr fancy that Ganohiji above the poverty line. But the amount advocated Kbadi aDd Charkea He wanted proviJed for this Important agency is very tbat a Charkba should be installed in every very to tbe meagre compared huge amount h::llll'ltC or f'ver} .:.:ottage so that it can lift the set apart for big industries which are people from b"!low tbe poverty line. Now uoeecessay. Tn:re is a paltry sum of what is the f.ate of Kh:ldi and what is the Rs. 82 crores or so. or ~ourse. it is shown fate of Chalkba 1 Charkba sball not and 8S Rs. 42 crares by wa.y of subsidy in lieu should not die, Maqam. we shouJd take a of interest, I thiak it must be a book adjust pledile Ihat at any cast we should not allow ment Then again Rs. 45 crores, 8 lakbs Charkha to ~ufferl and through Charkha, and two thousand by way of grant. I think Kbadl. Khadi as it is produced today is not il will go fot salary. Wbat is lefl over is at aU remunerative. I have made a tboraugb. only R. 82 crores and odd by way of loan. study of it, J have visited several Khadi What IS tbe number of people which tbis producing centres. I found a girl toiling for meagre sum can Ii/, above lbe poverty line '1 the wbole day, earnrog Rs 4/ - a day, And Should tiley go on livine like this in absolute we a liked that lady whether she was able to poverty? make both ends meet with that amount of Rs. [20/-per month" when we are not The programmes undertaken by tbe khadi 8atisfJcd even thougb we get Rs 2.000/- and Villa.ge Industries Board today are Dory per month What can she do with Rs 120/- limping programmes, This am0unt Will not pes month? Is it equal standard of living? do anything for them. If we melon bUliness. We are proud of our scientists and we are If you have got tbe obligatIoa over tbe5e proud of hav;ng conquered space. But caD pe,ople. dowa·trodden people. we must do we nQt improve the Jot of Our people, aod something dyoamlc through the agency like eradicate poverty? the K ... adi and Village. Industries Board. I would like to p~iat out one discrepancy MR. CHAIRMAN: Plea,e conclude here For self· employment scheme for educated unem"loye::l, Rs 65 croces is set now. You have tf-ken eleven minuteS, apart. What is their nllmb.er compared to those who are above the povertyJine? I do SHRI K.V SHANKARAGOWDA: We have not unde4"""staDd how tbis mao il d~scCJmiDated now to r dtiunally think of these problem'S. against? If be studies upto SSLC. he goes Tbe modern generation doe. not like Kbadj~ to one cadre; if he bas Dot studied at all, tbey want some auractive cloth, The clarb he letel below. He is superior and ~e is can he made atlractive and It should be inferior. Tb.ese people generally constitute dura hie also, Gandhlji. was never dogmatic. not one per cent who are under 1he poverty H:: was flexible. Whatever wa!o applicablo line. They are 65 cro:eS whereali tbose are to tbe time in whicb be was Jiving, be bad 40 croce., For them Rs, 82 crares are done, He never hesitated to make any providod. 1 rquest With folded hands .not modificalloDI or cbanges in his 'lblDkiD& only - the Minister but also tbe Pnmo according to the need, or the time. H we 309 D1mands for Gra11ts CHAITRA 28 . 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 310 (Gene1a') 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 mix so.me polyester with cotlon, blend it, say redemption, according to Mahatma Gandhi, io the proportion of SO: SO it would be more except the born delinquents. It is possible 4urable and attr 2ctivc also. If that girl who to convert these iliiterates, but it will be very was working o:o cotton could get six srindles difficult to convert the oeoole with half of yarn, she would be able to make Rs, 10(· education and half knowledge. They will a day, or Rs . about 300 a month . That will be "aughty and will have no discipline in ~something re.1sonabie. I also demand . them. Therefore; with that in view I would tbat.the looms should be improved in their request the bon. Minister, Shri Veerendra functioning so that one could spin about 20 Patil, w.ho is in charge of this portfolio to to 25 spindles a day It depends upon the think over this matter and recast his pro-' produce they manufacture every day. They posals in view of the sincere expressions I · are not wage earners. AccordiHg to the have placed before him. With deep agony quantity they produce they ;houid be given in my heart 1 am placr ng these rhmgs beiore wages. The girl about whom 1 mentio·ned you. If you do not eradicate the poverty should be able to get Rs. I 2( per day if as early as possible, we will be inviting she can Sflin 20 to 25 spindles of yarn The revolution either of French type or Russian · NMC Charkhas should be made more profit type or Chine>e type, Let us not hope it earning ones. ft ·is nor difficuli · fo r the will happen . Let wisdom dawn upon us scientists. The d1ffculty is with the· mill owners before ir is too late. Poverty is the greatest aod indmtri11lists. They do not a!l'lW tt* because .it affects the profit3 going into their this poverty. If there is prostitution in this pockeis . It will cut into their profits. There country, we are responsible ; if; there is theft are always v c~ tecl interests .,.h'ch a lways in this country we are responsible ; if there raise their voice to plead against the kl;;;ci aJc tv~L ~ t ;:) a11\J i ~Ji'-- ·.; ~,.5 i,1 i!ii; COUL1tly \\'.:.are and village industries. Tb'cy wdl try t kill ·responsible. Therefore. we have to pay the in at any cost and people V.·ork ing ~n i<.hadi ptnalty for it . We should now . retrace our will find that it is not remunerative. Th~'y steps. I \Vas o nce in the Governmen t as wil! ·give it away. Therefore. we should Chief Minister. So, I know I am a sinner, make Khadl and villa ge mdustries stronger, because I ara not strrcrly rollow uandhr · Ji . and we ~hou l d also undertake more research and followed somebody else. Therefore, into the modern methods of manufactacture let us retrace our steps and let us listen to so that the productiqn of Khadi becomes what Gandhi Ji a>serted in so many aspects more remunerative. if we do this with of human life : GANDHI PARNIT dedication we will not only remove poverty SAMAJWADA. When we say so let us be willri~ the span of the next Five Year Plan true to it. b~t 1'/C can also remove illiter:~y. l : "~ ~'" ~ this opportunity to those who are . li ving One more ob~er v ation I would like to below the poverty line, we. can easily caj.o!e ·make. I am getting a new experience in this them to learn reading and writing. House. I often see people re.tding· written When we give them an oppcrtunity (o speeches. I do not think we are having make a Jiving, then they will be happy to this prar.tice anywhere. Till ·so far, I have learn. We can appoint some gentleman and not seen any such practice in any Assembly pay him honorarium to teach the unlettered or in Parliament. 1 do not know whether it ladies and gmtleman. Of course, it should is allowed. In. fact, ! wanted to raise a not be mere writing and readiug and having point of order about this, but wme friends an ability to write one's signatures, but such advised me not to do so. Therefore, I kept knowledge as to know bow to deal and live quiet. 1 would like to know ·whether in in the modern world. Merely reading (lnd future these things are going to be allowed wliting will not do. It will be ruinous. ·in this august House ? .here is always People. with half knowledge are .more some danger in allowing written speeches to dangerou, than those.. absolutely illiterate. be made on the floor of this august House, The absolutely illiterate is often redeemable, be.cause thoughts may be of aomebody else but ·the people with half knowledge are not and the person who reads may be somebody redeemable sometimes. No man is beyond else. 311 Demandsfor Grants APRIL 18, 1985 Demondsfor Grants 3J2 (GeMral) 1985-86 (Genera/) 1985-86 [ Sbri K_ V. Sh~nakaragowda ] [Trandation] With these remarks I conclude. Thank Now. wbat is tbe role of D.LC. In it 7 you for allowing me to addrC'ts a few words On the one hand, the peopJe are asked to in this august House. take loan, tbe bank will provide loan. but on the otber, loan is not liveD to more than [Tran,/atia,,] 50 per cent people despite the recommenda- tions of D I C. They say Ihat they are not SHRI MOOL CHAND DAG\ (Pal;): in a positinl1 to provide loan and. hence, Madan Cbairman our industrial policy in will not give loan This Ie-port con rains full ladia basically continues to he the same. detail ThIS reporr pertains to the year but Some changes are brought about m tbe 19848"i, I want (0 Quote from this report: policy from time to time and as a result of [English) these changes. some results have come before us. "'There is regrettably no s),stematic arrangements to monitor the functioning I am afraid of your ringing the bell, of the unrts assisted by tbe DIes. Dur- therefore, first of aU, J want to say about ing the tOUIS of the Sludy Groups of tbe D.I.Cs. and bow tbey functioned. The latest report about 0.1 Cs in this. Committee th" representatives of tbe Slate Governments bad informed tbe [English] Committee that wbi1e fbe figures or small ~cale industries and unit. let up This Public Accounts Committee Report under the DIe programme wer "Ooe of the main fUDcti.:)os of the [English_? DICs is to assist the anisans aDd small scale units in getting financial assistance This is [he answer of tbe officers. It from banks and other finallcial institu- lays: tIons. For this purpose applications for uJt was also admitted that the institutional finance are to be asse<;sed possihd,:y of a high percentage of such and recommended by tbe Dies througb mdl1stries having bec!'o closed down or the Manager (Credit), an officer deputed becoming sick could not be ruled out. by tbe 'lead bank' of the District. The Committee arc surprised 10 find that out x x of 79.445 cases recommended by DICs in 11 States/Union Terriror;cs dUTmg 1978·79 ~ The DICs programme calculated to some ('xtcnt to de::entrahse industrra) to 1981· 82. only 30t 035 cales were accorded sanction by the banks/financial IDstliU- plannmg to suit the endowments and tiOD!. In another SCate, viz, Maharashtra n:-eds of !!ouch district and to briog about out of 38,883 cases recommct:!ded by ao IOter-discipllnary approacb···... DICs as many as J2,412 cas.es were Nothing has been done. rejected by tbe banks whereas in Andhra Pradesh. out of 10.902 recommended [TrQ'uiatiorr] cales. 4,139 cases were pcodlDg······]n Nalaland, out of 18S cases, only 33 If you go through tbis report, you wil[ kDO. Will cases were sanctioned by the banks U everything and you come to k.now 313 Demands for Grants CHAITRA 2a. 1907 (SAKA) Demandsfor Grants 114 (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985'86 what is the POSitiOD or the D.I.C. is. I would Public Account. aDd Public UndertakiDSs ,like to quote an example, I a1so waDt to as well. tell you bow the Ministry people incur ex- penditure and also the extent of tbis expen- (English) ·di,ure. Now what are the lessons? This i. the [English} Report of the Committe. on Public Under- laking,: In para 3.13 of Ninety-fourth Report of "The committee were informed tbat tbe Committee on Public Undertakings during tbe firlt five years, as many as (1983_84) on the Ministry of Industry.Depart· 47 officers of N.S.l.e. went abroad. The ment of Heavy lndustry, it is stated: total expenditure incurred by the com- UThe Committee find that the expen- pany on this account was of the order diture in advertisements and publicity of Ro. 1,14,15,423 including Rs. 6,l1,349 bad gone up from Rs. 1.49 crores in spent in [982-83 above. The Committee 1980·81 to Rs 2.16 crores in 1982·83. The wish to stress that the Ministry sbould Committee are not averse to publicity carefully monitor the expenditure OD tbat may be warranted on commercial foreign tours." considerations. should, however. be It [Tra'lsle tion] ensured that the expenditure incurred on publicity really serves the purpos~ in These people are spen~io~ lakhs of view. For instance, big advertisements rupees on foreign tours and they have pro- about tractors iu Englisb Press are of no vided these officers with opportunjtje~ to use to the farmers who are the main make foreign tours. users of tbe tractors." [English] [Translation] This is t he 39th report of the Committee Tbus, an expenditur.: amounting fcom Rs. 00 Public Undertaking on Bharat Heavy 2 crcres to 2.5 croces is incurred on adver- EI('ctricals Limited. tisements alone and that too in the English language as if all the farmers in our country MR. CHAIRMAN; Hon. Member's will purchase tractors after reading tbe adver_ time is UP. tisements in English. Such is the situation. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA; All In addition to tbis where do your big officers right. You are doing your own duty. of the Industry Ministry go to? Tbey go OD foreign tours, Tbey are enjoying them .. **The report says: selves welJ. Ii is said that no other depart· ment has so much scope for extravagunce on "It is a pity that morc than 30 such a scale. Nobody is there to cbeck it. years the IT] could oat perfect even the telephone instrument. The latest design The officers of your Industry Ministry (677) with the Japane•• dial though an indulge in tall talk, and no one IS there to improvement oV'el tbe preseot desigD, il check how money is being misused. We feel not reportedly free from major defects asbamed when we read tne report of tbe associated with the receiver aDd tbc Ministry of Government have invested transmitter ... ,. Rs 35,000 crores io these public undertakings in tbe country but we do not get even two per cent return from tbem. whereas it should bave been 11 per cent. Now, even after the lapse of 30 years there is Btill mention of development of new Such is the position of your 0,1 Cs. technology. They were repeatedly asked to that io the easel wbicb they recommend for develop new technology but they could not loans, the persons are told that they the develop it. loans are Dot available. This bal t'leen re- flected in the report of tbe Committees on ·*Expunged as ordered by tbe Chair. 315 D~ma"ds for Grallls APRIL 18, 1985 Dt:monds for Orllnt, 316 (Gen ..al) 1985·86 (General) 1985-86 [ Shei Mool Chand Daga I had tbe hon. Minister done? Tbere were several industries in Kanpur and some other [EnCIi1h] areas. He has excluded them and declared the industries io the remaining areas as sic:::k. UA decision taken in December. This was a lood way out indeed! 1977 to import know. how for the manu· fadure of telephone is yet to be carried out." I have suagested many times tbat industries in the Public Sector should be set Now it i. 19~5. This decision was taken up in tbe backward areal. You should in 19~7. provide infrastructures. There and new industries should be set up only tbereafter, [TIGn1latiOll_J But thii is not bdllg done allJ the bi:n.kwlud areas continuous to rem aID backward. These When wJJI this be implemented? Only areas are of course, declared "No Indusfry'~ you can tell u! about it. districts but no provision of Toads and tranlport'5 facilities and con~equently these Madem. J would like! to ask through yeu areas continue to remains hal been made what the production cost of tbe Cement p~r there backward. This is what you are- bag at present is I think it is Dot more doing in respect of these district~. tban Rs 27. You can counot the funning exprns. labour expens and transpon.tlon Industries and becoming ~ick. I have charges. But the same cement is being also falJan sick but I am the least bothered sold at Rs. 66 or R!I'. 67 per bag in the ahout bother my own sickness. The subject market ~nd nobody is thele to check it. On under di~cussion at preseot is that of (h~ one hand you have increased the prices industry. of coal, steel and 5everal other items. The prices of all the lDplements manufactured bv [En",lishj G"'ve~omt;'r't 2.fI''' iDCrf'<~'T"g C"n~C'n!!5: u<.:.=' by the comrnonman and iu price is also MR. CHAIRMAN: Please conclude now. increasing: Will the bon. Minister s~ate tbe reasons fer increasing the prices of SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: Cement? He should state in his reply what Members are ~iven 5 mmutes each They is tbe production cost per bag of cement is cannot even talk about ABC of industry. ineludin~ labour charges traD~portatioD This is not enough tIme. Either you do cbarges and other char,es and bow the price justice to them so that they can speak is fixed at Rs. 67 per bag in the market. something about industries or you do not What a bouse tbese people have played wltb permit them. cemept'J # In the cement indu5;rry Rs. 4000 well crotes have been Swindled. This has led 10 Jt is upto you ; it is and good. tbe: Sickness of the indultry. MR. CHAIRMAN : I have already gi'fen you morc than ten minutes. At present as many as 28,000 industries are sick in the country. The hon. Minister [Tl'an~la'ior-J .bould do something to make thlE:m vaible Tbe facrolS i cspODses for tbe sickness of the SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : The- mJils are examined many times and tbere jndustry can make proeress only whC'o (hey after a :statement embodyipg the new policy are run with a missionary zeal and dedicatioD'. il made. It is claimC'd by them that they have brought about improvement in the field SHRI KAMMODILAL JATAV or industry. But I would like to lay that (Morena): Mr. Speakerl Sir, I support tbe DO improvement has ~een made, rather the Dcmar.ds for Grants of the Ministry of situation bas deterioraled. Industry and Company Affairs presented here. SUI prise c-hfCks should be made of tbe working of hiEth officers and sC'cretarie!ll. I ",ouJd like only to give some SUIKC!.- What are the 0 J .C. Centres doing? What tions. 317 Demandsfor Grants CHAITRA 28,1907 (SAKA) Demands for Grants 318 (General) 198;-86 (General) 1985-86 A number of industries have been set "hen the population of U.P. is one Sixth cup in the country but there are areas where of the population of the country and the there are only a few of tbem. In Madhya Dumber of consumers in UP is tbe largest. Pradesh tbere is one industry in Bhilai. But DO consumer based industry has been There is a daIry unit in Betul and an set up there. other one in Bhopal. I .would Idee to requst the hon. Minister There are 11 industries spread only In that the jnjustice done to U.P. shouJd be three districts out of 45 districts in Madhya undone. It is not only the que.tion of U.P. Pradesh. On the one band a large Dumber There are several other areas which have of industries have come up in several States suffered aD account of the poliicy or our .and districts and on the other several distri..;t"i Indusuy Department. The Industry Depart· have remained backward. The area of ment should work as a promoter and under· Morena is 300 sq. kms. but there the in- take the work of dev;!lopment. It should dustry·covers only one sq km. area and as Kc-ep in mind how to promote the interest this industriali 8t happens to be an outsider ~ of industry at large. only tbe outsiders ~re provided with employ- ment there. You earmark one third of the amount for tbe development of industrial structure There are stone quarries and iron-ore but you haVe" put a ceiling of RI. 2 crores mines in Morena and it is an ideal place for on tbis. This amount is Dot of much help settmg up of industriea. There waS a Similarly the ··No IndustryU Districts have proposal for setting up of oil refinery in been prOVided. With the leasl-indl.Jstry Morena but it is not known why tbel old Subsidy under Ibis bead. Tberefore. 1 would refinery hal nol been set up there till to liko to plead tbat "No IndustryU District should be provided witb more assistance so day. that they may also make progress. In case no outsider wants to set up an We have declared 250 districta as indus. industry in Morena. then licence may be trially backward and we have made a com- giveD to any industrialist of tbe Chambal mitment to establish baaic industries two. and G"aliof Divisions of Madbya Pradesh But even after providing several Kinds of to set up industries in Mor~Da. industrial subsidy we fond that the basic industries in tbe states have not shown any J would ]ike to make only one sub· profit. So, I would like to request thar the mission. I request the hOD. Minister tbat public under akiogs. specially those whicb an oil refinery may be set up in Morena. are under the control of the Industry Department, should take up the task of In tbe end. I express my tbanks for establishing big industries in backward givinH me tbe lime to speak. area~. SHRJ HAR1SH RAWAT (Almora): I have been making a demand for the last Madam Chairman. we had passed the Indus· five years that a UQ'( of Hindustan Pboto trial Policy Resolution in 1956. It was Film sbould b. eotab]i,bed in Ibe billy areas envisaged in it that tbe work or development of Uttar Pradesh because there tbe climate of backward areal would be undertaken and is suitable for such an industry. But, DO regional imbalance would be removed. But action has been taken on it OD ~ne pretext even afler 30 years, when we see the pi ogress or the other. No big industry can be set made we lind Ibal allbou,b a lODg period up tbere. Ir we do not estabJi;lb such an bas elapsed, our Industry Department cou1d indnstry there for whicb tbe climate is not succeed in implementiog This basic luitablc and the land is availablJ, tben there coocept. The example of U. P. can be cited would be injustice nuto the people of that in this repect. In U. P. ; only S per cent area. We will also not be achieving our of tbe total allocation for industry bas been avowed a;m. invested and the sbroc of investment in tbis state out of tbe Public Sector investment As many as 30,000 indultrles have be"CD made in tbi. country in only 4 per cent declared sick duriDI tbe lasl five )'CUI or 319 Demandsfor Grants APRIL 18,1985 - Demandsfor Grants 32() (General) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 [ Sbri Harisb Rawat I The tecboololY is undergoing greae change. We should also acquire tbe latest more when a sum of Rs. 500 crores belong- know-how from other countries but it ing to tbe fin"Dcial in"lititulions bas sunk ID should be decided earlier wbo CDuld be tbe uDits. Most of tbe industries which be~ benefited by it. The big enterepreneurs can, came sick be-Jong to tbe priority sector. So acquire the know~how from other countries • policy should be formulated to revive then but it should be used to increase the and that policy should be an effecting one production in the country as well as. to ra~,e and should show result... You should a'so the standard of timing of those who are undertake a nursing programme in respect living in the viIJages. of industries and along with jt~ it is necessary that the FlDancial IOs1itutrons, There arc 19 PubJic Udertakings under wherever associated with tbese programmes you. Out of it 8 or 9 are such that II. lot of should cooperate with them, Of course, improvement haa been made in there. The- running progammes are undertaken but due management deserve's congratulations for it. to the non-cooperation of some agency or Sometimes sucb an atmosphere is created tbe other they have not been successful, which tbe reputation of the undertaking Regarding D. I. Cs, I would like to say suffers. tbat DIes. make available raw materials but tb~y do not get loan from the financial So. ao effort should be made to enhance jnstitian in time. Nor do th~y get power their reputation. It somewhere the Under- connection. It small entrepreneurs survjve takings arc lacking input or need encou- and reach the marketing stage, someho\'t or ragement then the same should be provided tbe other. they cannot stand competition and to them. A time bound Schedule should they fail. This is the reason why the small be formulaten for their ~o that the Public industries could not succ{ed even after so Undertakings start earni£lg profit and become many announcements and the grant of all a model for others to follow. The Public types of llJCenll"es 1 be greate~t sutfen:Ti tn Sector bas to go a long way and for that Ihey tbis are tbose who are settang up industries for have a large scope, There can be Jarge scale the first 1ime. cDcouaged by your announce- consumption of our engineering goods in ments, They come forward but ultimately Africa, Asia and other developing countries they suffer tremendously. of the world. With the dfOits of the officials of the Ministry, the percentage of OUf Government have announced to exports has no doubt increased but it nquires gran! of Rs. 25.000 to an educated un· to be incrc:a:ed further In O\}I"Q.l 0:1.1> ~}.'.H')lt employed perSOD to set up an industry bur earnings are concerned, we expot just Rs. tbis is a very small alnouut So, in coo~ulta 200 crOfes worth of goods. Considering our tion with the Finance Mmistry. this amount set.. up, I request tbat Ihere should be a long :lbollld be rall!led. to atJeast Rs. 1 lakb. term export policy. Tbe Kbadi and Village Industries can With these words. J support the demands playa significant role in the backward areas of tbe Ministry of Industry. in regard to dev~lopml!'nt and providirg employment. The blocks is tbe back~ard [English] areas also should be brough, under the lol.egratcd Rural D~\oIelopmcc t ProBramme SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN (Bada- which b¥ been started 10 provide employ- gara) : Wben India began its tryst witb des- ment to forfy lakb people. It agriculture tiOY7 it also began wjth an epocb ... making. is tbe backbone indusiry is the brain. After approach to the problems of development. agriculfurc9 it is the indusuy which helps The message aDd tbe content of tbe natjonal in the economic development. ",'e talk or struggle was v~ry clear, that we had Dot just inquir,ng about socio-economic change. envisap.ed political freedom alone but a basic Our Industry Ministry is giving new incen- and fundamental transformation of our in- tive.. But the main point is that ""hatcvcr stitutions and society. There was a very iannouncements are made. they should be clear vision of society before us. That was JDpl~mCnlcd 10 .hat itl benefits reach tbe reflected in tbe constitution, in tbC' institu- people. tions that were roraed and in tb. pOlicic. 311 Demand.for Grant. CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Demandsfor Grant. 322 (General) 1985-86 (Gene·af) 1985-86 and pronouncements of stalwa~ Is of our framework whether of control of monopolies fr.~dom struggle and tbose wbo took tbe to prevent concentration of income or build ... reins of powc:r in 1947 like lawabarlal ing up of a public sector Dot only as 8n Nehru.~ The vision of society was &pelt out instrument of jndustrial expansion and diver.. by Jawabarlal Nebru in tbis very House and slificatioQ into oationa1Jy and socially relevant I would like to begin whb a quote from bim. areas oft he productiOD. In pursuance of this I quote: goal public sector then was to acquire commanding heights of tbe economy. These &'The picture I have in mind is were OW goals Iben. These goals were not definitely and ausolutdy a socialistic the eccentric view of a man called Jawahar picture society ) am not using tbe or Lal Nebru or tb. t of (h~ dogmatiC iDcorrigi- word in a dogmatic Se!!Ee at all J mean bles ot [DC Lett. Tbese ellclated by objective large1y tbat means of production should cond irions of our SOCiety and levels of be socially owned and controlled for the development we found ourselves in and the benefit of the society as a whole:' need also to involve masSt:s in economic The Constitution tbat we adopted - If development ;1) a positive manDer. We bad you look at the DiJective Principles or even to make tbe masses abo conscioul of their as late as 1975 we adopted In this Houo;e a role and nol merely provide thenl with cbange to the p!'eamble :l~::! ::.':!c!~d t~.; \vGrd ave~~~"~ ~f d~~.,'.:r~~"ic ~~!! ex::,r~ss-ion !:out '!'ociaHc;rn'. That has been made very clear. means of economic fulfilment. There has been a conscious economic model Now, barring a few who swore in "50s tbat we tried to build up and also a very and '60s by Swatantra ideology which clear route to rapid InJI.J~ll idiJ~.uioD. That Jawahar Lal Nehru said was cODdemned to is development of indusfry and technology be thrown into tbe dustbin of biltory ; and Ihe process was initiated as reflected in the entire nation accepted these goals. But the Industrial PoJicy ResohJtion of 1956 and ironically I regret to say it is lhi. very the subsequent actions that we took· S"...'_t.:.G.::·";' :.::_ .... 1..... &:.. \\!J.:,:,u i.s ~oiJ&~l ".I t,,, Tbere were certain basic assumptions revived today wbether it be in the Budget behind jt [bat India was a ricb country tout or in tbe vadous pronouncements of the a poor people There had to be then a Prime Minister and his colleagues who were massive assu]t, a frontal assault on tbe pro ... promiSing us an entIy into the 211t century blem of poverty and other inequitiel of the and to a technological Disneyland and a Iyslem aod to redress regional imbalances managerial paradise. How far are these if thie; n:ation i8 to r~fTl~in ,mit,..(f ~"n a'~o assumntionc; valid todav ? What is the role Ibe primary task and need of acquiring cer- of tbe public sector today? lain defence capability to !!Iafeguard our The other day~ addressing tbe tycoons to(,_ "itorial iuh;lt, ;,)'. Il ';0,. iu 4UI;; L.... k.J'-up of tbe world who had landed bere tbe a d vision of emergence of a modern indus- Geneva.. my trial power. though with an ancient civilisa- Europaen Management Forum of dear friend and tbe Minister of' Steel. Sbri tIon and a great cuhural heritage. There· Vasant Sathe, made many astounding fon, if the standard of living of the masses pronouncements on public S(Clor. It was bad to be ralsed stIPP by step and tben con- significant that be ~as not just addressing a sumption standards st~ppC'd up to tolerable few chief executives of the pubHc sector levels, this was possible only by acceptance or (he goal of a sell-reliant industrial system tbat be bad chosen a f"rum deliberately and consciouJy to teB the world we are ready to and a policy frame-work implying rational, economic and technological choices. There. bury the public sector. A sector wbicb bad begun with an investment or ks, 29 crores fore, we bad to bund 8 capital soods base in 1951 and 5 enterprises to Rs. 24.761 and also a base for resear( hand dfeveiop- crores in 203 enterprises in 1982. h fhe ment and have a policy framework for public sector responsible tbat it has been import of ttcbnology and forcian invest- .addled ..itb multitude of objectives like ment. ' providina necessary infrastructure of 17.00 b15. eCDnomic and industrial development to ID additjon, baving decided on a soda- tenerafe resources for development and to Jistic societyI we bad to build 8 rCluJatory create employment ~OPpo[tuD.itic:s to promote 323 Demandsfor Grtlllt.J APRIL Ig, 1985 DemandS Jor uranu; 324 (G"""ra/) I985-86 (Gen~ra/) 1985·86 [ Shri K. P. Unnikrilhaan 1 per.istc[jt problem remaiDs ODe of distortions in tbe demand paUerD or demand (or redistributioD of income and weallb. to indusfri.1 loods wbere 10% of the urbao balance regional development and to assist and J 0% ot the rural houleboJds fuDsume the developmeot of small.. scaJe and ancillary most of (be Boods aDd lervices. Given tbe indus.riea and to promote imports substitu- existing distributioD of income aod if tber. tion and exports and save and earn foreiga is DO ooslaught 00 this distribution pauora, exchaose ? caD it abaoac ooJy by technological inputs 1 These are S 'me of the questions that one I do Dot want to talk oC MaDY a lacunae bas to address onself "'hile promlfliog a in the public sector, managerial iacffjcieacy fairy hnd. of certain units and accidents ]Ike Kudrc.. muk.b but what is your attitude to theae Addressiol tbe Indian EnainceriD& goals and objectives when you go about Exporters on March 22, the Prime Minister decrying public sector. Rasn·l it uodergonc bas said categorically that certain industries a fuudemental chanae after tbis government must die. I quott:; his words: aot iota power '1 Uodoubtedly there must be qualitative changes in tbe public sfOetor but UWe carmot pretend that all jndustries it has become fasbionable to condem public must be carried Into 22:nd cenlury (be sector outrilbt with a s:bopkecper's mentality meaDS 21st century); W~ must accept (btl of profit and Joss. Can aDY ODe deny in the fact that some illdustries have to be aHowed overall, tbe dramatic cbanges brougbt about to dje." . by public sector in the Indian economic landscape? Is the publi" sector responsible And b. adds if coal and power sectors have Dot per .. formed as they OUlbt to bave or ir tbe HThere are m.1Oy areas where we just Railways could Dot modernise? And have caDDot continue wltb labour mtensive they failed to perform because they are in IDduIlcies .•• the State sector? Is It bccause of.u ... Would the Minister for Industry c),arify 17.05 brs. tbe thought behind this gem fcom tbe Prime Mimstcr ? Whal are- the compooenU of this strategy '1 Please outline what the labour IsHRI ZAINUL B-'l.SHER in rh. Chair] intensive Industnes are or otherwise please seriou! failures in certain specific sectors or teU us what he wants to allow to die aDd what failure of the overall sector becausc it will happen 10 the people employed io tbese happens to b::: State owned 1. And it bas to sectolS. I am particuSarJy inteJested to know meet larger socral and national obligations. what his altitude is towards textiles. Therefore. 1 want to know from the Mini .. band looms, jute aDd coir aud cashew ster of Jndu'itry whlt is bls Government's industries of Kerala. I would waDt him to approach to the roJe of Dubllc :leClO! ? I spell out clea[(y tbe poJicy framework. Whll deau.nd a well·considered Wbite Paper OD is the magic wander by which he will cbange tbe social, economic and financial objectives tbe strUClUI c of these indultrics '1 There atC of tbe public undertakings as was done in nearly 50 million unemployed in the country tbe UK a few yean ago. today aod 50% of (hem are in the Live Resiten of Employment Excbanges and It is rediculDus to compare the perfor .. tbousands eoter the labour mar kct every manc:e of public and private: sectors. A day. What i!l your stratelY to prOVide them Private lector Unit wbich. operates at a for meaDS of livelihood '? micro level pflmariiy fulriles the goals of a aivea corp.,rale m1.nagement. but largely The entire regutatory framework or supporred "Y financial institutions, it industry in terms of [icen,ioa or controls futlction!l in areas of muket profitability over monopolies and 'l'estrictive trade and in a sbcltercd markc:t This will be-como practices or foreian coilaborauoo 'tire beiDa etcar if you liD tbrougb tbe product pailern systematjcalJy as.!Iaulted UpOD. The Sachar of the maDufacturiog iodn.try io India. Tbe Committee went ioto tbe Question al laiC 325 D,mal.'1i4 for Gnj;'14 CHAITXA 28. }1107 (SAK.'o) Lnmmllilfor G'O'U4 326 (O,,,,,,ai) 198J-86 (General) 198J·86 a. I ns and they turned dow" Ibe demand follows the Brilish model. It bas not even ror raising tbe a:jsets Jevel or monopolistl followed Ibe German or tbe Japao.se mode. beyond 20 Crores of rupee5~ There have But t!l'!!e ban!cs are in a. !trar~:ic po~;;;('n been a Dumber of studics made by the in our economy to closely monitor and Reserve Bank of India as also tbe informa- ir&form the Government in association wilh tion liven in tbi' very Houle aDd alia in the olher financial instiutioDS. academic circles tbat lbele bouses. monopoly houses ac.e DOt so. It '9 DOt because th~re are 1 can concede the right of this Govern- ] 500 monopol,Y units tha.t they bad not been ment with a massive maDale to have their able to grow. Accordinll" 10 the statement laid own policy. But tbese policies have to be 00 Ihe Table of Ibe House Ihe olber day, tbe spelt out clearly and empbatically and tbey assell of BIelat have gone up from Rs. 1432 must be in tUDe witb the larger social goah.. erVleI jn 1S'80 to Rs 2840 Clorel in 1983 But tbe. way they are gOing about h is to aDd Tatas from Rs. 153'oJ craces to Rs. 2850 build a eQunlly for the benefit of twenty [,(ores in 1983, that is, for the ~ame period. million people with cle-ar·cut and demonl· 1 am not suagesting that there is no Deed trable indicators or arnuence, so that the for aoy change. The tcoubJe was Ihat majority continue to wallow in filth, misery controls were not properly spell out and and squalor, whh no hope y.,hatsoc.ver of operd.ted through explicit regulations but e~Cdo~ . .iJ,g the lJ;'.y.~;, t) t .. :..... I !:.;..;,;. ~O .. by executive fiab giviD& a large Brea of doubt thaI this rc,urrected ghost of arbitrariness which stifled initiatives and Swatancra ;deoJogy inberent in tbe new brought a number of bureaucratic controls approach would meet the same fate as the which were not necessarily an adjunct of Swatantra Pany and be thrown ;oto the policy. Therefole, it;8 important tbat tbe dustbin of Hlliory. bon. Minister ~hould spell out these thiDI'S. [Translarior] Similarly, autonomy of public enterprises is Important and lileir tOOH. OJ Vh..h.'U'_u~ity SHRI JAG DISH AWASTHI (Bilbaur) , must le improved. But Their accounta.bility Mr, Chairman, Sir, ~bile supporting. tbe must also be made clear. There is a demands for grants of the Ministry of fashionabk thousht among some public Iodusrry, I want to submit certain tbings. H'ctor executives, that tbere need be only ][ is a matter of happiness tbat the Central overall accountability to Parliament. This Government in consulation with the State question has been gone into, by sevcal Governments have declared certain di!tricts committees. frem the daX8 nf Dr Krip;:h~n in Ct:f(dfO .:)UilCIlo d.~ ·.l"'-\.J-j,,";'Ul'lU,' ~~3i.1;"";:;. Menon. I do not want to go into details. In U. P. aho certain di~tricts have becD But I want to S.ilY that tbe scru1iny of tbe declared as ',No·industry' districts. One CommjUee OD Public UndertaL..ings is very of tbese districts is Kanpur district wbich importent. It may be that some of the I represent ber~. Since the time of its Question that are asked in this House may bifurcation, the Central Government bave Dot be properly put. or need Dot be asked declared thai Ibey wiIJ provide many faci .. 81 all. But is for ParJiamen[ to decide about lities to Kanpur. In spite of Ihis it has the procedural matters and Parliament alone not made much progress. The commitment can decide it. If Ihey tbink tbal just becaul. has been fulfilled in respect of only one autonomy is iml'ortant. there need be DO unit in the sugar industry at a cost RI. accountability Co Parliament, they are or 10 crores .. I would request the hon. Minilter lerribly mistaken. to ensure that this is not close down due J must also, before I conclude, rercr to to any financial difficulties. Also there is some inter .. related problems of our banking need to set up more industries in Kanpur .. :system. Tbe nationalised banking sector I would submit to the hon. Minister tbat which is not performing too well, bas to be the Kanpur city bas developed industriaUy mploved and it sbould also be used and wen. Kanpur rural district has been declared alsocitad to watch aDd monitor pro.ress as a 'No industry' district. Unless the and reporl delay. aDd belp to fulfil lor,ols, r rivate sector or tbe public sector estab1ishes as i. done by GOS Bank in tbe Soviet industries tbere, it will remain a No-ind.s- UnioD. Unfortunately, our bankiDa syste-m try~ district on paper only and will not 327 D~mantb lor Gra~t. APRIL 18, 1985 D~mQnds for G'''.'I 328 (Ge_af) 1985·86 (Grn.ral) 1985·86 [ Sbri ]aadisb A ..asti 1 Our banks do not give lOaD. 00 the recommendation of tbe industrial centres. lIchcicve any benefit of bavio8 been declared I wouU like to give a suggestion. Commit- as a "No-indu6try' District. A rule should tees m ly be Set up every where in tbe be framed for the· Kanpur city aDd otber country taking parliarncntry CODstituency big cities no licence will be issued for tbose as tbe base and not a district as tbe base. industries whether in the pubHc sector or Tbe local M P. should be appointed al tbe private sector 9 which ba ve already been the Chairman and all M.L A's should be developed. It ii a matter of regret that members or ~u;::h a committee. B-eside, last year in Kan pur Mis Lohia Machines bank offIcers and other OfflC(;CS can also were issued aD industrial licence for which be included in it. This committee should tbe company owners collected R. 95 croces consider all tbe applicallons and make its from tbe people. Had tbe some industrial recommendations and then loan may be hceDce been given for the Kanpur Iural given [0 those in whose favour the recom- district it would deftnctcly have provided mendation bas been made. If ., such a jobs to tbousanda of people and the Kanpur policy is followed, J bope there will be rural district would have marched forward much improvement in tbe behaviour of .in industri.alisation. bank orficcrs and otbers and you will also succeed in your mission. The hon. Minister. has good relations with Kanpur and rortunately be il sitting Just now, I was going through tbe bere at present I would request bim that Annual Report. Tbcre arc 17 industries be should pay attention to Kanpur and take in tbe public sector in our region. suitable measures to Sce that we are beno- Eleven of them are running In loss. I have fited. got some information about TEFCO at Kanpur. I t has been runomg in Joss since No industry can be set up in India un- it has been taken over. I read its Annual leIS power and land are arranged for it. Report. It has clearly been written in it As you know, usally there i. power shortage that it should surfer a loss of about Rs. 7 in our country. It is arfecting our industties crorcs in the ensuring year. Public money very much. I request tbat the Goven- worth Rs. 3500 crore has beeD invested in roont should arrange for unintrrupted supply tbe public sector undertakings whereas io of tbis power to the jndustries~ Along with .. the private sector much loss investmeot land shoud this, also be provided aE leaSOD- has been made. What are the reasons why able rates. A few months back tbe Uttar tbe private sector does not eoeur aoy IOIiI Pradesh Government bad issued an order whereas the public sector always runS in that if any industrialist watfted to buy any loss? The time has come when our govern- barren land of any Gram Slbha for setting ment should consider this matter seriously. up any industry be would have to pay We ate committed to where in socialism and double the market rates Now, because we have followed the industrial policy of exorbitant rates no industry smaJl or adopted by Pt. lawahar Lal Nehru, but tbe big is beiDg set up, I would request the public sector bas not been functioning tbe hon. Minister tbat he should write to the every it should have been, But we are very State Government at his OWQ level to with- much disappointed to see their conditioD. draw that oder immediately because it is The bon'ble Member Sbri Dasa has against )tour policy. described their condition as very grave. I would aha like to say that the manage- The self·employment scbeme waS also ment and other officers of the public sector beinl discussed here. I do not want to undertakings do not have full knowledge dwell mucb on it except to say tbat tbe of runn'ng tbem and this is the reason for people who want to start tbelr owo small loss being incurred by them. I would like to basiness have to make several rounds to BUlgest that a separate An IndIa Business the offices. dhtrict industry centres etc. Maoaeement Service should be introduced You are aU aware of bow 'bey have to and all officers should be imparled suitable race corrupt practices; they become victims traininl in it so that after getting trainiog of favouritism. tbey may be able to run them effieieotly, .329 DemDnrJ. fo, Grant • CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) D~/1lQnd6Ior Grallt. 33IJ (Ge".,a/) 1985-86 (General 1985.86 In addition, I would like to say some· l..i tbe annual report is stated tbat iD tbing about Kbadi and Goram UdYOIL all tbe sectors there is improvement. In an Commission. The Commission was made the seeton infrastructure is beina: buIlt up aD. announcement about cottage and small iodU8t1ies both major and minor are improv· scale industries in our area, but lome state IDI. and tbere is all round improvement. In governmeut. iQcludidg Uttar Pradesh bave Ibe first and tbe Second Five Year Plans tbe nol recognised some as cottage industries. policy was to substitute imports and now Tbus. tbese industries are deprived of maoy the stress is tbat tbere should be more export facilities. I submit that Government should industries. Various suggtJ'itioDs have been issue instructioDs for giving Buit.bIe con- ma<1e that indusuial developmeDt should cessioD in taxes to tbe.e small scale and be export oriented, employment oriented, cottage industries. agricnltl.tre oriented and village oriented, and rural oriented and valid apprQacbes have In tbe end I would like to submit tbat been made from different angles. Tbe the bon. Minister may keep all tbe sUlges- socio·economic life and activities of tbe tiool given by me in mind and talce suitable people of tbis vast country and its appro- decisions on tbem. With there words I acbes have to be taken into consideratm support tbe Demands for Grants in respect while formulating the policieS! and pro· of tbe Ministry of Industry and Company grammes. Affairs. Referring to our industrial performance [EngU,h) and achievement, we should not be com- placent or ocntent with our acbievcmt" fits. SHRI N. DENNIS (NagercoIl): The Our country hal been the tbird in the number bate of our industrial policy is the JDdul~ of trained SCientists and technologists aod it trial Po}icy Resolution of 1956 and it was laid has tbe capacity of tbe tbird largest tecbnolo- down in econsonancc with tbe socio·conomic gical workrorce and we are ranking only policies of our country. But tbe pattcrn of tenth in industrial producllon. Our intention developing tbe role of public sec lor and is to bring down tbe number of persons wbo private sector and also the small scalc and are engaged in agriculture and to bring tbem so on are clearly explained in tbe Industrial to indm!ltry. But we are not yet in a position Policy Resolution of 1955. About one balf to bring down tbat number. Our scientists of tbe people of tbe counlry live below tbe and technologilts arc knocking at the doo{s poverty line. They have no purcbasing of (OreiaD countries for jobs and rhry are power and industrial growth would alone dOiDg wen in foreign countries and are generate employment opportunities to acquittina themselves with highcredit. improve their purchasing power and thereby tbe market will improve and they can Labour is comparatively cheaper in our promote the industry also. So. for tackliol cOIlDtry thaD in the developed cuntries of the the poverty industrial development is very world. We have raw materials and we bave essential. also other re~ourcel. Only tbing is, we have to harness this manpower aod tbe There is a record agricultural production r~sources and utilise them to the proper in, our country and that should enable us to extent. provide an incentive for investment and that would accelerate tbe industrial production4 One of the main restraints on our Several progressives measure are taken on the industrial growtb is that or high cost basis of tbe Industrial Policy Resolution of economy. Most of the materials we produce 1956 and as a result of these progressive are Dot within the reacb of the common measures our country in a sen'IJe bas become mao. We are also Dot in a po'S'ition to industrial: tbe produetion has increased compete with the outside market. In the five times since iodepeadence and our country iodu.trial sector interest ratc is very high. bas becOme-it bas emorged as-Ibe tenth Be"bausc in foreign countries like Japan country to rank ill the sphere of industrial Taiwan the interest rate is very low ~ ther; production, i. a possibility for indu.trial promotion. fumllnd. for GrGltr~ APRIL '.,HIS Ihmond. for G,antl 332' (G __II/) 1985·86 (G,,,e,al} 1985-86 [ Shri N. Dennis I changes and tbere wero. or coursc, welcome- changes, Our Government's policy was to Another reason for bigh cost economy rake over tholc industries in which the is that IbEre is procedural delay in startina production "'as less or where the workers an indu5try or a project. It takes a lon, time were beins exploit. At that time, 126 This deJa) resullS in cost- cost escalation. te"tile mill. Were nationalised. ThClc Since tbe project costs more, itl products included some mills or Kanpur a180. I find alao ,cost more. The· result is that tbe demand that tbele mills have become almost lick acts sUPPlessed and tbis leads to idle ..ain. J.K. Rayon and J.K. Manuracturers c:ap&cilJ'. bave been lying c10led Cor tbe lalt three years and 8 years respectively. NotbjD3 Regardio, backward .r~s, the tntention has been done to reopen'them. Tbe N. T C. or the Gover oment js to remove regional Mills have been rUDDing a Joss for the last imbalances. But it is not so far trul,. 1fans- several yean. Every mill is incurring 105s Jated into actioD. Even within tbe Stl:l.te to tbe time of crores of rupees jn tbis way tbcre are imbalances. Of course mathematical the aIDount paid by the poor people of th" peccisioD cannot be achieved, but the country in tbe fOlm of taxes is going waste. Government has to come forward for Those who arc entrusted with the job of removal of the regional imbalances. managiog the NTC Mills, have DO experience The policy of the Government is for whatsoever to run them. The Administrative d;spenal of industries away from the metr0- Services personnel are considered expects poJitan towns and cities 10 spite of that in every field I would like to make it dear that. This is the biggest mistake. Today tb.rre is concentration In metropo itan towns and cities. Mere classlficat:on of districts tbe Administrative Services personnel .re as iodusnjal1y backward districts wiIJ Dot entrusted with tbe job of running the textile help. There will have to be efforts to miHs. What to say of any ttcbnical provide mtrastructural facllitres 10 the kllu""lccttie dLuui. U.l(;:~c lOiiis, mebe personnel industrially backward dlstric(s. In tbe bave even Ihe basic knowledge of the job Report it is stated that one third of as~;j!_ assigned to tbem. In tbe circumstance.,. these mills arc sure to run at a loss. tllB" JoJf providing iofrastructural facilities is aiven by tbe Centre, but this bas to be ex- tended to all the A, B, C and D categorics I would hke to draw your attention IIf ball:ward Slates. towards one thing more in respect of textile mills: Each textile mill purcblllo;:,,.~ 1('0 teo 200 Regarding lbe criteria for dislrictl a! bales of cotton. J bave Dot seen 10 much backward, Taluks and blocks Should be made corruption as is prevailing in tbe NTC mills. as the basis. Tb-e crl:(cClu. had been f,x,-d This is my own experience and I would as early as'1969. So, tbe crit:ria bas to be lik.e to Itate that these industrie!j cannot changed. There is a long-standiog demand be saved if corruption is not checked. The for tbis from severa1 places. leather industry has definitely prospered in Kanpur. but for unknown reasons the [Tron~/atlon ] export office located there has been shifted to Madras ..berea .. even today 60 to SHRI NARESH CHANDRA CHATUR· 70 per cent of the leather work is executot'd VEDI (Kanpur) ; Mr Chairman, Sir, ¥ hlle in Kanpur and lear her goods are exported supporting the Demand. for Grant. in ia huge quantity from there. Only the respect or rbe Ministry of Industry. I would Mini!nry knows the reasons for shifting tbat lite to say som~thinl. KaDpur was con.i- office to Madras. dered t be biggeu industrial tOV/D of North India. Once Kanpur used to come next to So far as suaar mills ace concerned. Ahmedabad in s.o far a' tbe textile industry all the IUllar milia in Ullar Pradesh are is cODcerned. I) cD, sick. Similarly, Iteel rolling mills arc al50 lick. If Ihe Ministry of Indullry Arter independence, the Central do not look into their affain scriou,Jy.. the•• Go ... ernmcnCs pol.cy hal undtraone some • iell: "'ill' C8DIlOI bee let lilht. My first .333 Demands for Grants CHAlTRA 28, Ito 1 (SAKA) Demandsfor Grlmfs 3J4 (Gellerol) 1986-86 (General) 1985-86 .l'equest to you is that the manaacme:ot of for Grantl of Ibe Minislry of Industry and fbese mills Ibould al lealt not be .banded tbrouab you. I would like 10 draw Ibe atten- .over to such people as do DO..! bave any tiOD of tbe hon. Minister toward. certaio .knowledge about it. issues. We had expected that a Minister like. Patilj i would rcrer to tbe Industrial Policy My able friend Jagdish Awastbiji bad and would implement the recommendatioDs made a speech bere just now in which be or the Sivaraman Committee in respect or fhad referred to two parts of District Kaopur categorisation and the formulation of tbe urban and rural, and hed laid that tbe new policy 110 that equality and unifolmity urban area should Dot be developed any could be brought about in the country. more DOW and no new Jiccoces should be But perhaps be was more busy in the issued ror tbe city arca and licences should Ministry of Chemicals and Fertilisen and be issued only for tbe rural area. This is could Dol devote time to tbis issue and tbat Dot proper. I have no objection if tbe IS why DO cbarge has been made in the industrial development of Kanpur rucal policy and the same policy is b~iDg followed. [Sbri Visbnu Modi I Indian capitaliit cla.. bad immensely bene- fited wban tbe Public Sector was born and' disfricts !bould also be taken into consi- developed .•The entire ration from the deatioa-.particulatly in view of tbe finaDcial poorest to the ricbest section contr,. ulcd for limit you have fixed,. while Ibalawar, Tonk tbe development of Public Sector by payiDIl A;mcr ... nd Sitar districts wbicb sbould he various taxe. aDd duties. None was in category 'B" have been kept in category exempted. But tbe mOlt gajner from tbe "C'. The hoD. Minister sbould took ioto birth of Public Sector was tbe Private St:ctor.,. tb is mat1 er . tbat is, tbe Indian capitalist class, The c~meDt corporation -of India had planned to set up a huge cemeDt plant in To mop up finances for Ihe public sector Bondi; but it is Dot known why this (;:.ctory direct and indirect taxes wcre progressively bas not been established so far. Mining increased. And finally the financial institu· lease ha, been given to them and despite tions where tbe nation's mODey is deposited .. that no significant progress bas been made that is~ tbe Banks and the ]nsurance Now if you consider tbe entice Ajmer district Companies~ were nationaised and CDS alone single unit, the concentration of introduced Simultanously, the policy of industries would be at one place only. It imporl substitution was pursued. This policy would be better if you consider Block or sub.. Dot only saved foreign excbanae but also division as one unit. 1 would hke to request helped deveJopment technoJolY was a Part you once again tbat district !hould Dot be and Parcel of it. considered as unit It "",ould be better if The Budget under consid.:ratioD veIY you accept the recommendation of the clearly bids good-bye to Ihose policies .. Sivaramao Committee so that uniformity Dire.,;! taxes have been reduced in Ihe Dime could be brought about in tbe country. or preventing generation of black money and simultaneously Indirect taxes bave beep With t"tfSe Vl.Ordy , q'pp,=,rt the d'!manu:.; enbanced. The fint gives relief to tbe for gran1s of tbe MiDlstry of Industry. industrial and business magnates wbHc tb~ second exploits the whole Dation for the benefit of the expJojt;l}g classes. (£"8/;S;') At tbe first sight of tbe Budg.t pro- pcsals, it may seem that. the economy has SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL arrived nt !!:J.e st.:.g.: of self'iustaining grow,b. (Joyoilgar) : Mr. Loanman, J am thankful This nation is faJsified if we examine the to you for living me an opportunity to Import· Export policy recenlJy announced. speak: on the Demands lor Grants UDder the The new import policy bal placed not Jess control of the Ministry of Jndustry aDd tban 20] items of industrial machinery ~o Company AffaIrs Mr. Chairman, tbe tbe OpeD General Licence_ Tbis firstly most distinguishing feature of the present indicates tbat we are as yet far bebind Budget is that it is a radical departure from ..self-sustaining economy. Secondly, this is tbe fiscal aDd budgetary poliCies pursued a wholesale attack on the public sector itself. from -the Five Five· Year Plan period. \\·e Nobody can deny that under tbe pres.Dt inherited Dot only an undeveloped economic fiscal and credit regime in the country, tbe and industrial structure bUI also a lop-sided unrestricted import of capital goods will do one. The ,ask of our planners was., thercw immense damage not only to the heavy alld lore, DOt only to develop {be economy, bOlh medium engineering enterprises in the Public illClustrial and agricuhural. but a)$o to Sector but also to some entrepIC"OI!Uts in the- rectify Ibe Jop-sidedness. Tbey~ tbuefore, Private SerJor it.elf. underlook Ihe lask of buildiDIl Ibe basic structure of the economy. That is how. the MR. CHAIRMAN -: Tbe boo. Member'.. pubJic sector came to be born. The ind~J; time is up. trial bouses then bad neitber tbe resourcel, Dor Ibe competence nor tbe will to build up SHRl SANAT KOMAR MANDAL , tbe basic struc'ure. Undoubtedly, tbe A few minutes mOlt. 33~ D~mana.s fur Grants CHAITRA 23, 1907 (SAKA) Demands for Gra'l(3 338 (Genual) 1985-86 (General) 1985-86 MR. CH"IRMAN: You have already even indulged in ebetoric but I W.:lnt to sub- taken up your time, Please lry to mit that as our Prime Minister has declared conclude, that we shall remove poverty from this country fOiever. we have to ponder over SHRI SA.NAT KUMAR MANDAL: how this poverty will be removed. Tilirdly, it will allow Penetration of foreign capital io Vital seeton of the economy. Our lire and livelihood depends on two Thi! last point I~ substianiated by the things-agriculture and industry. Tbe p[eS5Ure cordial invitalion to foreign capital by the on land bas increased to such an extent tbat Prime Mmister recently. it is Dot able to withstand furtber prea- sure and there 15 no scope. Therefore, MR. CHAIRMAN: PJea..,e cuo::lude we are lefl witb industry only and we have DOW. to cosider how W~ can devate tbe poor with the help of industry and how we can provide SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: them with employment. 50 per cent popu- The new Import-Export Policy along with lation of our country i! living below the open-arm invitation to foreign capitill will poverty line. We have to prOVide them with only strengthen the ~tranglehold ('If the employment and Government ha,,'e to thmk Indian monopolilt;; aDd their foreign how tbat employrrent can be provided. We counterparts. This is unalharn~d reversal talk bere of graduates and prOViding loans of policies up till now pursued. to them How can a poor man having DO money set up an indu~try? He can set up an industry only With loans, The Question MR. CHAIRMA" : I am going to call of ·One~Wigdow~Service. wa! discussed berea the next Member. This bas been Louoduced in lhe dlstric1S. I want to ask the hOD. Minister~ through you. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MA:"iUAL: Sir~ whether ·Onc~\\,indu'W-Service~ ioS rUDe .. Only a few words about lick IDdustrial (loning in thiS country or not 7 Other wise units and closed units. One of the Primary how can you provide employment to the tasks of the Government is to feed its poor? You will hav to make arrangement people For thai purpose, every able·bodied for that and have a suggestion in this regard man must have gainful employment. Any that you will have to take work from all national economic policy must ensure that District Industries Orflcers or other Dlstrjct nobody remains unemployed ••.• ~. Officials with stIlctness. If tbey do not help the poor. They should be suspended MR. CHAIRMAN: Please take your or dismissed. Ie at. I am calling the next Member. Shri I aJso want to tell you tbat the poor Ram Prak.ash. What )'OU are reading il people working in tbe industries today are not gomg on record. Dot paid their full wages and they do Dot have other employment. No poor maD lets SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL : justice today and be is v~ry mucb oppressed. According to the Reserve Bank of Ind1a To provide them with jobs is yOUf responsi- BuIletin ...... * bility. MR. CHAIRMAN: You have taken You just have in view the programmes enough time. ,",,"hatever you had 10 say started Mahatma Gandhi Mahatma Gandhi you have said. Sbel Ram Prakash. was a world~renowDed saint. He introduced tbe scheme of 'KbadJ Grammodyog' .0 that [Tranl'ation~~ the poor people in the country could get SHRI RAM PRAKASH (Ambala): employment and tbey might not Jive in Mr. Chairman, Sir, many boo. Members deslitution. That is wby he started this programme and il includ~d weaving of have spoken here and some of tbem have Khadi. Jearber wack etc. But, today. the enfire Kh adi~grammodyog work has been ·Not recorded, 339 Demands for Gro~/s APRIL 18, 1985 Demands fOT Granls 340 (Gene'ol) 1985.86 (Genna/) 1985·86 [ Shri Ram Prakash 1 We can really be proud of OUf progress in indu5triahsillg the country. As agriculture usurped by others. For example. shoe- aDd ils allied avocations cannot absorb the making is with the Tatas and simiJarly. otber ,rowing unemployed people In the country. items such as wood and steet goods are it is imperative that we give constant atten- beiDg maoufactured by the big industrialists tion to tbe growrh of cottage mdustries In in their fa=tories. Earlier, cloth w~a\'ing rural areas and smaJi scale industrit's used 10 be done by tbe weaver, but now the in urban areas We have the Khadi and rom. have taken QV!:C this work ThllS. Village Indu ... trle~ Co,urnission and tbe notbing ha~ been l~ft for a poor man to do, National SmaJi Industries Corporation I want to submit to you that unle's,;; you commltted 10 the achievement of rural and take work from there officers wilh strict- urban mdu"triaJisation Here I would say ness. you cannot maoage it The offIcers that the KVle Jacks in modern marketing have bold themselves to the mill owners and te"cbniq ues. Ir h also to be borne in mind factorY owners and they do lIorbing for the that the KVle is to formulate rural indu,· poor. ~you wiB have to be strict. trial schemes and to ensure its implementa- lion. Presently the KVle has burnt its I come from Ambala district and Ambala fingers in the establishment or tiny match bas a border with Himachal Pradesh. umts and in marketing tbl! match boxes Himachal Pra.desh has been declared a p.roduced by them I know tbat tbe K VIC backward State, although my area. my is burdened Wiib blocks of match boxes constituency is also very poor and backward. worth Rs 6 OJ" 7 crores Tb:s is due to the There is a p'ace there 1hrough which the absenc-e of marketing potential in the river Markanda passes. KVle. I take this OpportUDlty to suggest tbat there :!Ihould he a separate marketing There is a place named 'Kala Aam' or.anro;ation ror [he products of cOllalc there aDd there are 12 to 13 ractories half industries. a ki'ometre away from that place. poisonou! ernuents from these factories flow into tbis I am afraid the National Small Indus. river. If cattle drink. this water. tbey will tries Corporation is no better in 1his regard. be dead and if a person drinks it he will The NSIC is to receive Rs. 19,17 crorcl .110 meet the same fate. Therefore you from the sman Industries financed by them. should issue instructions to the pollution There is no coordination within the board to ensure that these effluents do Dot organisalion. The iDdustries which owe now ioto the river, "0 that tbe lives of the money to the NSIC have become lick. cattle and the men could be saved. MR. CHAIRMAN: You conclude now. It will be wis. to split th. NSIC iot() You tell the poinU left with you to the hon. two wings: one, to service tbe smaJI scale Ministcr. Dr. P. Vallal Peruman. units; and tbe other. to extend finaacial a.sistance. SHRI RAM PRAKASH: Mr. Chair· man, Sir ...... I am IUIC that the boo. Minister of Induslry will look. into thiS and. do the MR. CHAIRMAN: Nothing will go needful to enSure tbe survival of small on record. industnes. SHRI RAM PRAKASH : •• [&I'lilh] [MR. SPEAKER ill tho Chair] DR. p. VALLAL PERU MAN (Chid am· More than the attention to be given to baeant): Sir~ I ri.e to lay a rew words on indultrial development, tbe Centre should tile Dc:mand, for G('ants of tbe Ministry of exert it5elr in tack.lina tbe aro.iag industrial Judu ....,. ami Comp"DY Affairs for 1985_86. ··Not recorded. D~malld$ for Grants CHAITRA 21,1907 (SAKAl D~mand., for Gro"t;, 342 (Gene,al) 1985·86 (C.neral) 1985-86 sickness. There drc 4()l large induitrial under- of tbejr own folJy. Our hon. Prime Minister ldkingi and about 60,000 small scale units is guided by tbe age old saying. ~Trust whlc)) are reponed to I:te sick. I am sorry beaefs trust.' I want that our IQdu~trialists to say tbat th~ pnv4te sector ba'i not played 'rust him 10 do good to tbe nation. They fair with tbe Govern'meat's commitment to ~hou]d ensure that indusfrial sicknen is protect the labour force ha'J probably averlcd at any cost. contributed to industnal sickness. The Government should mak.e it categorically Wben we expect tbe private sector clear that natlon<:l.Ji!!.a:[ion of sick industrial industry to wOfk on tbe right track and units is not going to lhe panacea for all the: deliver the goods, we should eosure that indu!rrial ailment. The Government ~hould our public se'ctor unils also work cfflcienUy initiate punitive step! against the errj[lg and profitably. In fact the pub)ic sector management. The management executives units should be the beas on 1igbt for ethers. should be squarely held responsible and There are 17 public sector enterprises under they sbould be ~ubjectcd to c:onfi5c31ion of the control of the D~partment of Indusrrial personal property and aSsets for their Development. of whicb 14 are manufacturing nealigence and m.smanagement of the uoics and the three are con!ultancy or industry. The representatives of the public promotional units. Unfortunately, tbe tbree sector fin3nchl institution" which have units of Hindustan Paper Corporation ha.ve given financial a1Si~tance to the industries incurred a tota1 loss of Rs. 30 crores in sbould also be taken to task for not exerting 1983·,4, In 1984-85 also tbey are likely to their authority in the Board of Managemenr incur losses. J have jUlt given the example of such industries; you know Sir. tht=y are of Hinduuan Paper Corporation to show nominee~Directors on tbe Board of Manage w that all is no! well with our public sector ment to protect the interests of the public unitl. sector f1nancial institutions. J waDt that th,:; Ministry Ihould exert lbe 1985~Ml Ceotr.l Budget and the greater effort to manage the public sector recently announced Export~lmport policy l1uits profitably. The defaulting management ~bould prove a manna rrom heaven for the responsiblf" for the inept handling of tbe industries. They bave to vindicate the faith affain must be brougbt to book without any aDd bonour reposed in tbem by our dyna- extraneous considerations. mic Prime Minister and our pragmatic Commerce Minister. If they misuse the With these few ",ords, I support the opportunities given to them for sustained Demands for Grants of the Ministry of industrial gro"th, then they should Dot be Industry aod Company Affairs, spared rrom any unpalatable action. SHRI PRlY A RANJAN DAS MUNSl Similarly, the Gove[oment have made (Howrah) : I rise to support tbe Demands the MODiopolies and Restrictive Trade for Grants of the Ministry o( Jndustry and Practices Act innocuous. The monopoly Company Affairs. concerDs wltll .sse1s UpTO Rs. 100 crores are out of the purview of the MRTP Act. Sir, 1 bope that the policy whicb bal There are oniy 60 industria1 houses beiDI DOW been rormulated will rurther reveal tbe goveroed by tbe MRTP Act. Tbis again actual wi.dom of Nehru's .ilioD and abow the Centre-", lenuine concern for Indirajj's mission as far as iDdustrial develop- industrial sickness and exbibits its uDshaka. ment is concerned .. ,. blc faith in tbe inDate patriotism of the captains of our industry. I bave every hope MR. SPEARER : You can continue tbat our i ndustriaJists will place tbe nation tomorrow. above all their own mclinations and ensure an indullrial explosion at tbe earliest. If Ibey pia, foul, tbea tbey "ill be Ibe victims 3H Discussion re Intet.1erenct! APRIL 18, 1985 hy U.S. Congress's Human 344 ill Tndis's Intt>rnaJ Affairs R(rrhts Caucus 18.00 hro. provent sucb people from engaging in anti- India activitH':S but also actively coopeIate wilh DISCUSSION RE INTERFERENCE IN them. Tbey think tbat they are the mentors IN DIS'S INTERNAL AFFAIRS BY and protectors of human rights aU over the U, S CONGRESS'S HUMAN RIGHTS world. This is tbe clear exprc!ision of an CAUC:US WHICH HELD BRIEFING Imperjalist mind which wants to dIctate to IN U. S, CONGRESS ANNEXE ON tbe countries of the world on their internal THE SO CALLED HUMAN RIGHl S affairs and polleit's ISSUE IN PUNJAB It is Sickening and hean rending that [English] these people and tbe leaders of that country dart' to talk of hunan Clgbts when tbel[ MR. SPEAKER: No... we have a hands arc SHewn wirb blood of men and discussion under Rule 193. Mr. Saifuddin women "ho fight for Ibeir inalienable human Chowdhury ...••. rights Wbat is their record about human rights: The ruling clique of USA stand SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHURY today as the biggest molester of human fIghts (Katwa): As we have always done in the both lD their own country and in other p.st~ today too we stand as one on the countries of the world. Even in Punjab singular issue of safeguarding tbe honour and among many culprits, externally US agencies dignity of our country. The whole House are one who a!'c responsible for the grim and tbe people or our country unequivocally detericratjon of [he situation there. Where condemn today the flagrant interference in had those advocates of 'human rights been our countrY~1 internal affairs by tbe 50- when l!xtremists were kllilng people abun- caned human rights Internet under tbe dantly '.' V,'hy did not they persuade them behest of US CODgre5s~s human rights to stop it '.' \\'hat is happening in South caucuS. Africa'? \Vbat is bappening in Central America? \Vbat is happening in Sri I congratufate our people in the Indian Lanka? Embassy in USA who refused to appear in the briefing and sent a strong note condemn- In country after country worst kind of ina the eveot. Tbe briefiog organised by suppreslioD of human rigbls IS going on the said agencies held in the US Congress and US rulers are actively aiding and abetting anDexe. was conducted as they said, on the these suppressions In South Africa violent human rights and Sikh situatioo in India. denials of human rights are being perpetrated This aetually became a platform to spread through aparthied policies by the racist anti-India feelings with the vociferous regime aDd US is actively coHaborating with participation of extremist Khalistani leaders them. Oll March 21 this year when people Jite G1.nga Singb Dbil10n and Jagjit Smgh were mobl!!~ed in Langa in Eastern Cape to Cbauhan, And this W3'5 a prelude to a full- commemorate the death of 69 people in fledeed hearing by the US Congress Com- Shal"pville police firing 25 years ago they mittee on burna rights. were bruta!ly fired upon and .21 blacks were killed. The great champion of human rights Me. Rcag.;.n did not find any fault with The whole country has been outraged fat these kjlling~. He attempted to ju ... tify rhe tbis briefing on a subjecr which iii exclusively police action, Indja~s internal matter that has been sougbt to be internatiooalised hy wested interests wirh ~a pernicious motive. What business does The UN Special CpmrniUee against apar- the caucus of the US Congress on human theid condemned thr- USA for this. ]ts rig"'t' have to take part in organising a hear- Chairman, Mr. Joseph Garb. said on ing on tbe situation in India? This reflects a Reagan'! Comments .tl must express my particu'ar state of mind of the organisers distress and pain to the highest level in the which rUDS in conformity with the mind or USA. 1 he Police in South Africa are the: ruling clique of USA who not only do nol descflbed as being on the side of law and 345 Discussion re Interference CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKAl by U.S. Congress's Human 346 in lndis's Internal Affairs Righl.5 Caucus -order as if there is any law and order in What about removing the lsraelies from the Soutb Africa. They speak of Ibe rioting of occupied areas; and giving tbe Ealestinlans the indigenous majority and forget tbe their human rjgh.t to homeland? It is quue -original and continuing violence aDd racism strange tbat these master defenders of of lhe State and Police". buman rights do not talk about human rights in Sri Lanka where Tamils are bu(- Sir, tomorrow NAM Ministerial Con- chered. What about Pakistan? They arc: ference is being held io New Delhi on the nOI talking anything about Pakistan. I have -question of independence of Namibia. Who said about this spme tllne ago. What IS the is bebind the destruction of hUman rights condition of blacks in their own country? and nol allowing them to have tbeir indepen- Basically apal tbeid policy i., being pursued dence? Who are behind this'? J t is the there. A kind of apartheid is being pursued United States of America and tbeir coJJa- 10 Amenca What is happening in Puerto borators. Soutb Africa. What is happening RIca? It has b::en virtually colonised. in Nicaragua '! There. a lawful government Wha[ about tbe rights of those peopJe? bal been formed after last November elections. What is happening to the American Indians? This: .election was observed by 400 observers Their leader Dennis Banks il facing severe from 40 countries. They certified about the persecution for having led a demonstration fairness of the election. Still the USA IS against the racist behaviour of the PoHce. trying to subvert the independence of Nicar, Now, if they claim tbat they are the mentors agua through its mercenaries being sent from and protectors of demecracy first tbey have Honduras and Costa Rica. They are killing ro practise it at home and the-y must exa- the people mercilessly. Now~ what has the mine their own .eco::-ds first. US President to say about tbe counter revolationery conlras. who arc leading the Now, Sir, we do not take it as an isolated massacre in Nicaragua President Reagan Incident. It is a reflection of a bigger con· said "they are [ore·fathers"e J do not know spiracy that has been going on again'St our bow it is so. countrv over the years. That is why we are very much alarmed about tbJs. It is also Tbe US health organisation has prepared quite strange that when we are baving this a report on tbe activities of the Contra's in meeting about the independence of a country Nicaragua. Dr. David SiegaJ, Co-author of which has been subjugated by tbe USA and tbe report said ~it is rather incredible that its associates that they have to do tbat kind President Reagan would refer to tbe Contras' of a thing. You will remember Sir when as fighters or as the moral equiva.lent of our the Nellie massacre took p}ace~ we were fore-fatberl~. This is what he had to say having tbe Delhi Non-aligned Meet. It is about the couoter revolutionaries aod who all correlated. Now, we have 10 think. about are kiUing tbe people and subverting the it. They arc very much out to disint~grate independence of that country? and destroy our country and this is just a refiectioD and nOlhing new. The US rulers President Regan was asked if be was call- are cC\otinuously a.dvocating the idea of disintegrating India. This is what Nixon ing for the overthrow of Sandinist8 regirn':. had visurlised in his book. "The Leaders' Reagan answered Uno!, at tbe present, if they that the direction of tbe ·events in India is would turn and sayaaU right or they would say Dot one of remaining unified, but otherwile. "nucle". This is where we become circum- spective when we hear in our country about personal equation with the 'uncle'. I am not This is what Mrs. Krikpatric bas to say Citing here instances cf suppression of human when she was In Unired Nations and I riahts of the past. in Vietnam or Kampuchea quote-4lThere is a noticeabl~ growth of or in Iran during Shah', rute. separatist movement to the eXlent that there is a real possibility of the Balkanisation of Even now what is happeDing in Chile, in India, which would destroy its influence in Grenada and elsewhere where the US has its the Tbird World and elsewhere." This is pres.ence 1 What about the Palestinians '1 what sbe bas to say about Balka(iisation of 347 Dis,-Yssion,.e Intu/.!r;!:tc? APRIL 18~ 19:85 by U,S. Congress's Human 348· ill India's Internal Affairs Rights Caucus [ Sbri S.ifuddin Cbowdhury 1 able to soJve the situation in Punjab. It is DOl for tht'"m to say all these thlDgs. It is. India. This is th~jr att:tude and tbat is whv we condemn ;t, and we have been telling thi~ our owo internal affair. About this threat against tbe security OUf country. have over the years. They arc very much cODspir· of we iog a&ainst tbe independence, against tile been tcUing over tbe years and 1 believe that unity and integrity of our country. everybody in this House as aJso tbe AkaJis Ihould admit it. They have to do Ibis. Now, we Now, I waftt to remind the House about want tbat everyone should join to strengthen what our lare Prime Mioi"tc:r had to say the opinions of this House: I requesr y.oU when she aave an inlerview to ~SuDday I do not know wbether it is possible or Dot 10 Times' London. which came in the 'Indian move a resolution condemning this ; and our Expc[es,' of 11th June 1981 also, She said strong sentiments sbouJd be conveyed to uPorces of destabilisation and possibly a thos.e authorities who are uninterrupted foreign band were at work in Punjab. There carrying OD their anti-Indian activities. is some method in the whole thing. Jt has just not been a series of isolated event •. " This uDnamed and unidentified power is PROF. K. K. TEWARY (Buxar); Mr. trying to destabilise our country. Their Speaker, Sir. the previous speaker bas attempts arc manifold. Not only are they referred in detail to the record of American inltip.ting tbe lecessionists. giving tbem Government in regard to buman rights and sanctuary in their country and bel ping them. I join him in condemcing this regim~, the IlDd armina Pakistan, but otherwise abo they American reaime and American caucus or are having spying activhics in our country. whatever it is~ tbis group or tbat group, \Ve aU know about tbis. I want to Quote which crcogated to itself (be power to pass anotber passage from the • Memoirs ~ of judgment on wbat is happe-nina in our NixoD. It was during ,be '971 War wben country. they ordered their Fleet to move to Bay of Bengal from Vietnam. He says .. uThrough Since Arnel ice was discovered by intc1liacncc serYice, we learnt tbat at a CD~umbus. you know, it is a long history, meetiag or the Indian Cabinet, Mrs. Gandhi buccanecrs, parvenues, pirates and the had led a discussion of plans to expand the rejects from all over Europe, have been ..ar on tbe Western Froat and to invade flock.ing to America; and it is DOC of the monu- West Pakistan." I do Dot know whether mental ironies of history tbat this American S.ate~ which bas evolved out of the genocidal ,t IS true or not, But abe point to be DOted is tbat they could spy over a Cabinet butcbery of Red Indians, Negroes and mee1idg too. They could go to such an other indigcnous tribes. AU tbese races ext(,Dt. Thi. is really 'Yery alarming and were decimated and dcstroyed.. AmerIca,. diU iDS the Foreign Affairs Debale .Iso~ I "fW'hich is ,uilty of exposing bumanity t.,. referred to it. In this subcontinent. in atomic extermination in tbe Second World our country .. in Pakistan and in Bangladesh, War, defencelell humanity in Hiroshima tlle U. S. Ambassadors are known C I. A and Nagasaki, tbe country which is guilty of acents. It is for the Government to monstrous brutality in Nicaralua, in El ascertain the facts. What does tbis 'isnify ? Salvador, in ChiJe and a host of other We have in understand the problem posed countries, tbat country and people beloDling to our country's .n::nrity and integrily and it to that couDlry, sbould bold conference. an.d j, in this respect that wc:$unequivocaUy conde .. pas. judgmeoto 00 what is bappeniDIL in mn the iDcideat. No doubl" we: bave differenc our country. precept ions about how thinl' developed in Punjab and bow il could bave been solved You know Ibat afler we became much before. ]I i. said in tbe briefb.g tbat independent, we have been cbampionina tb. there are tbree or four CODareu leaden wbo cause of buman freedom. It ..as only after Hould be 'aken out and sbot. But it is non India became independent Ibat all colooi.. of their business. We have been demandiol all over lbe world, started tbeir rreedom (M aa Inquiry and tbal bas been ,ClOnted. movemenll under tbe inlpirio, le.dersbip We ..., movina in tbe riabl patb and ... of Pandit Jawabarlal Nebru· earlier it wa .. llelievo -of the freedom of humanity from tbe brutal Ibar bas not been condemned by tbem. colonial regimes all OVer the world. It is Besides this, tbe Voice of America has not for nothing that America bas been expanded its activities and very few people against us ; its. 'aDcicnt grud.ge against India know tbat the VOA is essentially a has been for the simple reaSOD that we were defence-oriented organisation for low signals the first country to be Hbc:rated from tbe to their defence forces in the Indian Ocean. yoke of colonialism and after that under our That bas been ~stablisbed. leadership most of the coun.ries in Africa .and Asia lot their freed em and a struggle Therefore, all these things ale be;og starled in rigbt earnest all over the world? done around us and [ben side by side aU those who remained deprived of their in'ernal sabotage through the hated CIA, rjghts, all the countries wbere their civiliza_ I would not refrain fcom ceferring to [be tion their culture., tbeir natural resources activities of the CIA. The DIA bas been were plulldered by colonialism and impcria· try iog, over tbe years, (0 infiltrate our list forces, tbey got tOlether aDd a new oC(I!anisatioDS, especially frontal oraanisa- world order evolved. tions. our educatIOnal institutions and our political bodies. Therefore. this is a 1\1"0- Since wben, the leader of imperialism pronged attack from America. De-stabilisa- and colonial (orccs, America become tion of India has become the focus of agalolt us and slQce then the conspiracy their attention and J must refer to what has been going OD. In this connection, we my friend has referred to, Mr. NixoDs'1 -cao refer to what America has been going book 1 will read out feom bis book. I all fhese yean. The intention of America will quote and this will explain th..: -and hs foreign policy has bocn ta encircle American ps}che. the American mind Jodi a from all sides. DestabHisation is l·i~-a·vis our a.ecurity. our independence aDd not a simple pbenomenon ; dcstabilisation our sovereignty. Nixon in his baok, it is of a coulltry of our size, of our potential c&.lIed, "u~d#"rsu bas referred to his talk. and our background takcl a lot of time. So, with Pandit Nehru. he says. I quate his thil process or destabiJisatioD bas been in words: operation ror quite some time; and is first started with external pressure which was "Tho ugh his words concerned PakistanY. being exerted on our country. supposed threat to Iadia, his demeanor foreshadowed the tjme And in pursuit of Pax American, eighteen years later when India·s American imperialism came to our doors Soviet·supplied army, under bi. in search of proxiel and surroaate; a string dauabter's leadersbip dismembered ~f bas •• was establisbed. So rirst our def~oce aDd threatened to extinauisb our security. entire security environment Paki.tan, a goal I may han belped was made vulnerable to the machination 10 deny them by $tiltin.' U. S. of tbis oUlSido power ..bich bas subjugated, policy in tbe conflict towards aod bas collaborated witb tbe subjuaators Pak.jstan:~ of bumaoity for yearo. Aod after tbat talkiol of Iodi.·s unity Pakiltan and the uaaes in Dielo Garcia and integrated Indian State, be says. it is not tbe e.tabliullnCllt of rapid deploymeot possible to maintain India9 s unity because it force, wbicb i. no.. callad tbe Central is too diverse a country to be onc-Dation Command. are dangerous for tbis regIon, State. 10 tbi~ cODnectioD 9 Me. Nixon goo.. Collaboration of America witb Pakistan, On and I quote. •. 1 will oot.o into tbe details of tbi" I Will ooly make lome referance to wbat i. "Ooly an immensely powerful man bappcoio, tbere'" i. koowo, Finn, bases could bave betd lodia tOlleber ....re established all arouod UJ in tbe eDtir. durin. lbose critical early year., ro,ioo, Now tbe lateat is Sri Lank., tbe maintainiDI it as a liD&le natiOD .ooocide wbicb i. tau... place ill Sri Lanka, alainlt all th~ fon:el pulliq .parl, 351 Disclission re lnt~r_rerellce APRIL 18, 1985 by U.S. Congress's Human 35Z' in lndis's Inten 01 Affairs Ri,hts Caucus [ Prof. K.K. Tewary 1 Then he says furtber about tbe prospect of dismembering India at tbe behest of For, as tbe Shah's comments America: indicated, it was no more in the natural order of things for a)l Jndia to be one country than it wa~ for "Time is in our favour because tbe· all Europe to be one country; problems with which India is beset linguistically. ~thDically aDd cultli- in tbe 80s are becoming increasiD8Jy rally India is more diverse than difficult to solve, and instead of Europe. But whetht:r this accom~ going from strength to strcflgrh pli!obment benefited the: Indiao India is going from weakness 10' people is anoth('!( question. Unity weakness, " is sometimes more important to the unifiers than to the uDifi~d If Ius Tb,s is tbe bread scenario tbat you find. energy had been dissipa'e.d io com_ In this context I would request tbe House bating the country's natural centrc- and through the House the country at larae fugal forces, perhaps more could to react to tbis challenge for it is a chaIJcDge, bave been done to improve the it is an unpre~dented onslauabt On the people's living condition ••.. Whether freedom, sovereignty aDd int~g[ity of our Of not India wau ld have been better motherland. We have made heroic sacrific~s in off as several narion, Nehru made the past against the mighty imperialist forces. it into one and be made it and kepI Now at this staF, after 37 years of indepena a democracy." dence, when we have evolved as a powerful nation state with strong industrial base, and Tbis explains tbe Amedcan approach to respect all over the wor1d. when there is a India. A shameless advocacy of dismember- cballenge thrown to us by imperialist forces; ing India bas been done 1"1,. no less a person we must unite as one IDd resist this challenge than Mr. Nixon. In this connectIOn J would to our sovereigoty. also refer 10 how these extremists are exploil- ing tbe siluatioD and bow tbey are being MR. SPEAKER: We ore united aDd belped in their nefarious designs to dis- member our country by the proxies of solid against any non-sense. America, the friends of America. They are being suppJied the most uhra modern PROF. K. K. TEWARY ; In tbis COD· weapons aDd are being egged on to create necrion I would also mention about tbe trouble in India_ This statement of Mr. activities of extremists in Canada~ America Nixon is corroborated by what a top aDd Great Britain. Recently Mrs. Thatcher Pakistani General has said recently. This maD was here in Delhi. She made some very belongs Co the select .roup of President Zia. ·p]easant Doises about her concern about Thil group is called the 'think tank of India's unity and the activities of secessionist Pakistan". This General, Mr. Akram Khan, and extremist Sikhs operating from Brjtain. says: I will DOl 80 into details. But you know whil[ they are doing in Britain. 1 will refer UIndia is not ODe country: it has Clever to only one ioc;deof, the horror of horrors. enjoyed 'be: unity which is the Before Madam's assassinatioD Jagjit Singh- ballmark of a nation state ...... The Chauhan, that extremist, fiendish, seces.ionist peopJe who can be regarded as Jeader who has heeD operating in connivance being potentially sepaJatists are tbe with the Britisb and American authoritjes, Sik.hs, tbe Dravidians and the Dortb· went on BRC and anaounced prizes for the eastern people who include the assassination of Madam Gandhi. Then after Naps, tbe Mizos. Tcipura and that when Madam Gandhi was assassinated, A .... m. If the people of the sub· when that terrible tragedy overtook tbe continent can comprise two nations, nation, again Ihe same person 'Was alJO\\Ied why Dol tbree? Why not {our or to go on BBC and sloat over the SucCess or five or six 1': his murder squad. I want to put ODe questioD" 353 Di,""$si~n re inler["ellCe CHAITRA 2~, 1907 (SAKAl by U.S. Corrgress's Human 354 in India's Internal Affairs Rights Caucus to thi. HDuse and to tbe Government of As America wal plannloi to destabiH,e our India. Tbey .ay that their laws do Dot Government~ destabilise this country, simul- permit prosecution of tbc~e eXlrcmhls. If taneoulI,. tbis came as a God send tbis tbe lawless laws or Britain are in opt:ration opportunity of destabiliaing through extre .. tbere protecting the activities of eXllemists, mist aCUVi[lfS of these group. JD PUD}II.b. will tbe BBC and the Government of Greal In this context I am sorry to say ...••• Britain. allow a similar broadcast by the (/.,'nruplJolI.\ ) Irisb Republican Army people against the Brillsb Prime Minisler or any Prime Minister MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Tewary. we can of a country friendly 10 the we~tern bloc. offer them very aligible bacbfJors is they like. As many as (hey like. It is possible "I It is not possible. Therefore, we have to be careful in our PROF. K. K. TEWARY; Even Ih. dealings with Britain also. married people wHi offer their servicc§. In Canada, you know,. Sir, what is happening. The GoyernllLt'nt in Canada IS MR. SPEAKER: I am talkio& about directly helping They have gran led funds bacbilorl oaly. to Ibe lUoe of mlilioDi to dltferent Sikh organisations and tht'y are cbaraclenscd as PROF. K. K TEWARY: In thi. COO- mloority groups. ThiS rooney is being given (ext, bow satanic, bow fiendisb. bow des- on the pretext that thi..; Will stregthen their pu::able the role of Impenalist Ameclca bas culture and tbi, will belp tbr-m expand their beeD in deslabliising this country aud finish .. cultura) activities. Tb:::~e IhlDg~ are happen- ing Mrs. GandhI; I speak wi,h full responsj .. ing there So. we have to be "'cry careful in bllJly tbat Madam's assasinalion was planned this respect and we have to tcsiH this III tb~ Unltcd Statcs and execuled here with pressure, com!! what may, be~au,f" wr: h<,vr: the help of merccnaric:s. made [he biggest loacntice that we could have made, in the death of ] ndira Gandhi, for our Again I refer to a document which was iDdependeDce~ and we must salute our late prepared in America. J am very sorry (0 lamented leader, ber memory. who (ought remark that our media. print media have against this insinuation. who fought against kept the people at large in dark about thiS this mt:cbinatioD. Constantly, in aU ber horrendous crime committed by the .peaches, wbether she ",as here in India or American authorities. In 1983. while Madam abroad, she kept us reminding of tbe hand was referring 10 thiS foreign hand, Amencan that was operatin~. Whether it was Punjab Stale. Department commissioned a study. or Assam or Norfh·Eastern States, sht' was One Professor called Robert Hardgrave, one person W~IO detected this destructive and prepared a 10[:8 reporr ...... (1"te1rup;iurn). handful influence of tbe imperialist forces who wele out to dismember tbis: country. MR. SPEAKER: Professor Hardgrave! Therefore, I am very happy that all my Inen,js are one ID coudernomg thiS. ao: they PROF. K. K. TEWARY : Yes, Sir, have always dODe. \Vhcncvcr the unity of Profes'lor Hardgrave. India has been m danger, the people of India. irrespective of their parlyallgnments, MR. SPEAKER: I am emphasiaing tbe have stood together ard with resolve and word 'grave'. resolution they have faced tbe cha!lcDgel. About tbe recent incident in America, PROF. K. K. TEWARY ,This Report about tbis hearing on the socalled Human of Hardgrave has d.ppeared io a book form. Rights situaTion in Punjab, exaggerated Now It is &vallable all over tbe world except untruths have been paraded, One of the perhaps in India Now, what the Repo.rt starements says tba, no eligible bachelor of says, can you visualise '.Iuch a situation, 20 or 22 or 23 bas been lefr alive; cvuy- can you contempJate s· ch a situ..ition whero body bas been murdered by the lndian army. a county profess.ing ali the while fnendly 355 Dicscussjon re Interference APRIL 18, 1985 bJ' U.S. Congress's Human 356 in Iniis's Internal Affairs Riahts Caucus [ Pror. K. K. Tewary 1 coalition. Thy say: "Tbis is a situation tbat India could probably sustain for some relations ",ith India. Conducts a study on time as Italy bas since the World War JJ. the likely effects of lhe sudden death of But if Ministerial instability so undermines its leaders. The claptrap of international order as to ferment .. oeial uorest and diplomacy should not blind us to tbe stark threatens tbe stability of tbe regime, the realities of the situation: military will intervene and send the politi- cians pad,lOg." ""bat does thiS book say? Why should tbe G :JvernmcDt of America commission a This is the fmal judgment on the des- study on the sudden disappearano:e of Mrs. tinY and future of tbis country which has Gandhi? Her iuddeo death. not a natural sustained its cuhure and ils unity for thou- death~ not a heart auack~ Dot a di'$~ase. sands of years. For millennia we have been Tbey say sudden death. And if this sudden ooe country. India has been an idea, India death takes place, what will happen to India has blen a philosophy. India has been a and to Soutb Asia 1 That is tbe reason of geographkal uniiy. This cannot be disputed. their con.cern for their geo·etrategic interest Parvenues of AmeCica whose culture aod and tbelr tendency to dominate and sub· bistory is only a few hundred years old, jugate this region to their global strategy with that legacy. with tbat ancestry of parve- of a super-power. Firstly, I will read out nues, of buccaoeers and with the Jegacy or two or tbree seotences from this paper. It murder and loot and plunder of the third says: world countries. sbe visualises this stark COIf Mn. Gandhi were to die suddenly scenario for India. which is eterDaJ and wjll ••• (1 emphasise this word suddenly) ... before remain externa)~ come what may. Wh~ther it the Dext Parliamentary elections _.( their is America or Britain or extremists. we ar c concern with Rajiv Gandhi) ... Rajiv9 s determined to face the challenge. prospects would be considerably more difficul!. l' To this I would hke to add one marc thing. The question i. they had predicted What prompted the American Govern- Madam', sudden disappearance. J am very ment to commiSSion a study and tben to soery that from this House 1 and other think of th~ sudden death 1 friends. were shoutina and WCfC requestina you also; and you sir, realisinl: the gravity SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: of the situation bad liven your vie-ws. We (Bbagalpur): Because they were planning said the tbreat was real, not jmaginary. already. Tbis House ttood as ooe person in warniDI the authorities here, bur unfortunate],. PROF. K. It. TEWARY: Thi. proves nothing could be done. Informalion musl tbat if Indira Gandhi is rt'moved from tbe have flowed Dol only througb Parliament, ICCDC, India will be tbrown into chaos and but througb different cbanDeJs about tbe as plaoned ... as my friend has pOtoted out danger to her life. 1 am told one particular to Mrs. Ka.rpatrick, Plan or Mr. Nixon's preCISe information was tbat the danger vision of disintegrating India their dream was from the security guards. Still notbiDI will CDme truc wi!! go And with Pakistan bapp::ned. We lost tbe greatest (hat we armed with atomic weapons, the wbole bad amid3t us. The burden is how on our regioo of South Alia will be uDder tbe heels of American imperialism. That was tbe shoulders to defend tbe unity or tbis country. Now in tbis perspective J would plan. like to know (rom the Goveroment of lodia. Further they also talkod about the India .. why can', an office be opened here in Delhi Army which has been tbe stroDaest unify- to figbt ae:ainit the racist and repressive ing force and which bas always shunned regime of tbe RcagaD Government aDd political ioflueDces or any kind. They 80 support the human righ1. of the Negroes ahead and talk about the Indian army, which and the Red Indiaos 1 Why cao't we have is 10 sini!ter in its intent. Tbey visualised a an office of the Irish Repuhlican Army ir 357 Discussion re Interference CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) by U.S. Congress·, Human 358 ill lndis's lutern«/ Affairs Rights Caucll':'" British laws permit operation of extremists bonum, the be.. all and-end·aIl. the sum and without Jet and hmdrance against our substance of what we do in our public life, country where the leader of the country whether we belong to this group or that was murder~d and the Briti5b authorities group. this party or that party. Now the allowed these peopl~ to preach violence and time has come when we have to defend to gloat over their success in murder ... it freedom. We fought for acbieving fre-edam, is a murder of the most despicable kind. a DOW tbe time has come wben we have to murder so foul that stink to tbe biah fight for priscrva&ion of our freidom. for heavens. Why caD't we do it ? protection of our freedom. Thcr~furG, I am sure the: country will, and I also urge you. J am very happy that the Fnrei.2n Minis- Sir. you please see to it that this Report of ters or the N AM countrins are meeting in Hardgrave goes to every Member of Parlia.. Delhi. It;5 a wonderful backdrop to high- ment. This Report must be procured by light tbe daoger to tbe stability of tbe Third the Government or India because: this will World counttlcs. What Namibia is facing 'educate' our people and this must reach today? Persecution of her people, loot of her every village in tbe country. Let the people resources. We also faced it. We have been try- know what America has done, what tho iog for the freedom of Namibia and you know imperialist powers have done. Now the the people behing it. Wby can't this House time has come. Therefore, we must take a resolve that from tomorrow we wiU fight for stand, and tben I must also refer to tbe (he flcedam or Puerto Rico, which is also alarmiolC' reports in tbe press about the a colonised territory? It is the American security of our Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi. Governm::nt which bas colonised Puerto Reports have come tbat extremists under the Rit:o and Wf: must figbt for the freedom of patronage of these forces in Britain, 1hat territory also as we arc: appreciated America, Canada and Welt Germany are tbe freedom of Namibia. This we must regrouping themselves and a vcr), reJiable decide, we Ir..US! do it be-cau'!,:" a si!t1 a· report st!gge~t5- th"'t ['nw ~ikh e,.11'<':"O"'sts (ioo bas come where we must call a spade a will not be involved, hired assassiDs belons- spade. Tne niceties of diplomatic language, ing to tbe international terrorist groupi have diplomatic dealings have come to an cnd. already been hired and during the forthcom- The abtitudc as demonstrated by AmericaD ing visit of the Prime Minister to France and tbe British regime following Madam's and to USA and a couple of other countries,. assassination and preceding, I at least, or I an attempt may be made on the life of tbe am sure the entire House, entir~ India, will Prime Minister. neither forget nor fOlgive espeCially those the pc:ople who are responsible for ber cold Therefore. Sir ~ the security of the Prime blooded and heinous murder. Minister is paramount and we cannot take chance. We have already p.id a very heavy In this background I would also like to price. Now~ we cannot afford to pay put certam questions to the hon. Minister another price to appease and to satisfy the who~ I am sure. will take cognizance of the designs of America, Britain aDd Germany developments. Many dangerous develop- and the forces of destablJisation working at ments are taking place. Dcstabilisation is borne. So~ in this background~ in this pers- DOW staring us in the face aDd on the basis pective, I think, this debate has succeeded of my under·standjD&~ my analysis of the in highlightiDg the problems or India's international situation, the situation in our security. immediate neigbbourhood and then tbe situa. tlon at borne, I am convinced tbat the dangcr Sir, DOW the focus should shift to the which faced us during Madam's life time security problem and tbese sm..t.ll irritants Wall not as great as the danger Ibat faces us which are being seen like aDti·reservation-! today. Therefore, the solidarity of th. can also tell you-tbat such agitatioos are Indian people, tbe determination on tbe part whipped up by ioternatioDal agencie.s. These of 'he Government and tbe resolve of this arc economIc ISSUCI. SO, the people in the House to remain united aDd free the country at large sbould be aware of tbe gzmes chall"Dgc - this Ihould be the S~mmu"u being played to divide us, to dismember Di·ousiO" '4 ],"~~f~"'''Cd APRIL 18, 1985 by U.S,Co"8'es~'8 HUmII" 360 in l"diQ~6 In,~,.nul Affa;,.. Righl3 CD.IICUS [ Prof. K. K. Tewary 1 Customs Inspector but suddenly be tmerged in America and declared himself as a Guru our country and dcstabilise our country. aDd Yogi and started converting the J was re-fcrring to a few q ueation. which Americans 10 Sikbism. This Yogi is calJed I would 1ike 10 put to the bon. Minister. Bhajan SiOBb Jogi, Botb Deedar bingh I bave a paper This again is disquie(inl. Bains and Bhajan Yogi were staying in Rashtrapati BhavdD complex They are There is an organisation called Sikh COUDcil of North America· They have fdmeDting trouble in Amenca. Their links are very v~ry dubIOUS They are 3o,sociated )."'lut up Ihis apJ'eal in 1he N~w York with Jagjit Slngh Chauhan and Ganea Siogh TII1~.,. I wiH read only two sentences of what tbis appeal says: Dhillon and Ralph Singh who appeared before- the so called Human Rights Com_ "In the aftermath of tbe barbaric. mittee to depo"ie against the Government immoral unprecedented, unforgiveable of India and attacked tbe very concept of and unforgettable Golden Temple Indian ucity and oneness, Massacre of June 5. )084 iovolving dese... eration of their Holiest Shrine, and I would like 10 know from the hOD. murder of innocent men, women and Minister as to how their stay could be pos· children by the fascist Indian G,_wern· sible. I praise the offices and the institu~ ment Jed by Mrs, Indira Gandhi. the tions that were developed in this country. Sikbs appt"al to the conscience of fair They mu~l not comf"" under any doubtful minded people all ov:r lhe world for shadow for it is the InstitutioDs whicb keep sympatby and support in calling upon the country united. Individuals, come aDd Mrs. Gandhi to stop State terrorism go. But the institlHions must remain against tbe Sikbs, restore fundamental powerful and vibrant and throbbing bumaD rights and let them determine With life. their own destiny with dignity and respect. n It il reported that a peiSon wbo is ThiS is important. I am emphassing tbe described as tbe PR man at Ralhtrapati words ·"tbeir owo destiny with dignity and Bhavan4bis report bas also come and I u would like to know about it·bas gone respect • J think, such appeals are coming overy day in tbe Foreign Press. Tbis appeal somewhere in AmriUar and disclosed the has attracted lbe attention or the Human classified document relating to tbe Army Rights Commillee or Human Rights Cauous opera(ions in the Golden Temple, Who i. or Human Rigbt' Group. They have been thill maD? Who authorised bim to do so ? The highest office in this land is being playing wirb these tbings. They have b~en jostigatins and inspiring people to organise dragged into this controversy. Tberefore, and parpeteate luch lhings. Sir, what i. I would like 10 know from the Government intriguing is the presence o( a person whose of India as to how tbese things are beiog Dame il well· known to India. A person permitted. It is the underlings who do Dot called Deedar Singh Bains is tbe Chairman have Jove lor tbe country who are doiug 11. of the so·called Board of Director. of this organisation which bas put up this appeal I cooclude with aD appeal to you tbat fOI" the ·'determination of tbe destiny of lbe Report prepared by an American Agency. Sikhs by themselves" and noo.interfertnce the Hardgrave Report, be circulated by tbe ufasd'it regime led by Mrs. Indira amoDgst Members or Parliament. The Gandhi··' May I know from tbe hOD. Report should also be traoslated into Hindi Minister whethtr tbis mao c.lled Deedar aDd oth4r reaionat languages. This Report Sinab BaiD. caqle aod stayed here in sbou'd 10 to every village in tbe couDtry a.,btrapati Bbavao .bich has a guelt bouse so that the p~oplc: come to realise and where foreign dignitaries come and stay 7 know what is looming in front of tbe Who allowed him here? He "&me here in nation and prepare themselves 10 fiaht 1983 aDd he .tayed the.e. Along ..ith him a ..inot tbe forces of de-stabilisation aDd .... anotber persOD eaUed JOBi "ho ..as deatruction of tbe country • 361 DiscUSlioll re lnterf"'ence CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) by U.S. C.ngress's Human 362 in India's Internal Affairs Ri6hls Caucus Sic. I would also requclt you in parti- the Supreme Court and to protect tbe cular because you are (he cu.todian of the fundamenlal richts. The Supreme Court HOUle to ask the Government (0 clarify of India in various jud.menls bas eome t:ertaio thiDl1 which are happening. The forward as one of the b,r;st champioD. of ceports ft.re aalorc that certain UDlcrUpuloUI burna n neblS. This factor should never be elementl arc takina ad vanta.e of tbe situa- forgotten by any civilised person or by any tlOD undermioina; tbe sandit1 of our impor- person who lS intersted in huamo rights. tant offices and important persons in the country ~ .• Unfortunately, the Congressmen under the gUise of investigating Into violation of MR. SPEAKER: There are good human ci~hts bave SQU8feJy led themselves people also every where. I thiok, we must ;0[0 iuterfering witb the internal affair. also take note of the people who are of a sovc:reign nation, namely. our country. figbting in America also for the good Every nation bas got a right to protect its cau:es. It is tbe only these devils who ale integrity and to prevent disunity and quoting scriptures to safeguard themselves. dillDtcgration. Th.e hiltory of Ame[ica I think, tb.at also you must take note of. ltsclf shows that there was a civil war Everywbere, there arc good people also. fought for retaining the unifY of America. If, according to these gentlemen, trying to PROF. K.K. TEWARY: I conclude prevent seces~io[)isl tendencies amounts to my speech by making a few appeaJs. suppression of human rigbts, then probably Firstly, the Hardgrave Report be circulated. Abraham LineoD will be guilty of suppreso;- Secondly. let us start a movement here. as 109 buman flgbts also because he led th~ our national movement in the one for the W-H agajns' the disunity and disintcgration liberation of Namibia and against the of America. policies of racist and apartheid regime in South Africa. We must start a movtment for MR. SPEAKER: That is wby I said the liberation of Puecto Rico and foe the that there are always good people also. preservation of human rigbts of Red Indians, Negroes and other ethnic groups SHRI A YY APU REDDY: Let me not who are minority in America. S3Y anything that will sever tbe relationship betwecn Americans and Indians and tbat With these words, I thank you for will !Irain the relations between the Ameri- giving me ao opportunity fo speak on this can and Indian Governments. SUbject. I mUIt say that these perSODS want to SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY (Kurnool): make use of this occasion for tbe purpose Mr. Speaker, Sir, tbe foundine fathers of of iav:esl[lgatiog into the so called violation our Constitution were not merely freedom of basic rigbts for tbe SIkh community. figbters for the freedom of India but they 1 hey must have forgotten the fact that a were basically and esscntially the cbampion~ great Sikh is the President or India. They of buman rights. India's struggle ror freedom must also have forgonen the fact that tbe under tbc insplfiog leadership of Mahatma Americans themselves have got so many Gandhi i. really a chapter foe the Haman shortcomings. Let me Dot enumerate all or Rights. It was a figbls for evolution of them but it is enougb to say tbat till now human rights. The Fundamental Rights not a Negro has become even tbe Vicc_ which bave been enshrined in tbe Consitu- Pre!oident of America and even been adop- tiOD of India are the best principles wblcb ted as a candidate ror occupy ina any are ensbrined in tbe Conslitution of any position there. Tbey have got their OWD nation in tbe world. drawbacks but it i. not for me to enumerate an of them. But w. know that tbe Congress We have got "hat are called the which is concerned with the prOlcction or Fundamenlal Ri,btl. What i. more impor_ human rilbts all over tbe world is Dot uni- taDt. under article 32 or the CODltltutioo. is f-orm in ill approacb. It is ycry welt tbat every citizen baa lot. ri.bt to move knoMl tbat when tbe military ~ 363 Discussion re Interference APRIL 18, 1985 by U.S. Congress's Human 364' in India's Internal Affair~ Ri!!hls Caucus [ Sbri Ayyapu Reddy 1 human rights is a big-time politics in the United States and it is a convenient mask and tbe military dictatorship of Pakl!;t8n to cover the strategic interests of the U.S. began 10 suppress human righ1s in military-industrial complex. Human rigbts wbat js DOW i"DOW aa Bangladesh, in India. _. yes, in Punjab or elsewhere: but when hundreds and thousands of students not in EI Salvador, not in Nicaragua, Dot in the Dacca University were mercilessly in Kampuchea where they are trying to lunDed down and butchered, when one resurrect tbe Pol Pot remnants. There~ tbe mill ian people ran for shelter into India euited States has primllCY of intereo;:ts. and when our Prime Minister went on a strategic interests and global interests. So~ mission of peace to America. nODe of these I should not be misunderstood if I say; Congress people thought IhMt it il aD why are you so much stirred and concerned, eminent case of human rigbts Our friends why have we suddonly revived ~ did we not bave rdated the suppression of human know that this would happen. this would rights in other parts of the world. h is not continue to happen ? necessary for me to enumerate aU those things but certainJy what the Congress Now wbat I am concerned with in tbe people have dODe is not at all for the context of the bearing is our own foreign purpose of shielding the flghr for human policy. Ever sIDce this Government too~ rights. On the other band, it has degraded over in January. we have been bt:ariDI for itself into iOleeftring with the sovereignty too maoy cuckoo calls. It began with a of a democrac, ",bieb is accepted to be a visit or a 4transit, call· by Dr_ Henry tru:: democracy in every senle of tbe word. Kissinger on January 19 00 his way to Islamabad to receive an award from Gen. J~ therefore, join with the sentiments Zia. And you know. what for. He was given expressed by our ([lend's in saying tbat this a red-carpet Ireatment here and showered amounts fo an interference in }our inter.a} with attention by the busybodies of tbe attallls aDd y..c condemn it. lbank )OU. Ministry on External Affairs. Here was a man who had insulted us, who had insulted SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN (Bada- the late Prime Mini.ter Shrimati Indira pra): I must frankly confess th.._, t I am Gandhi ••• by insulting Sbrimati Indica Dot at an surprised at tbis US Congressional Gandbi, he had insulted tbis great country- bean ogs on the queltion of Punjab and and she had consistt"ntly and rightly refused tbeir policy of interference In tbe domestic to meet him ever since tben. He was an affairs whether of India or of otber Count .. unwelccme visitor: he was told so. Here ries or valious regions of the world because he came a few years ago on a transit call the United States military industrial corr plex and he had been told, wben he paslcd regards itself as the gendaeme of the world, through on a Chase Manhattam Bank Mission, that he would be unwelcome. She: II is not for tbe fust time that sucb a did not meet him But now witb Shrimati bizarre odyssey bas bren undertaken by the Indira Gandbi safely buried, we forget tbe U. S. Congress~ even JD relatIOn to India. Insult and injury that be had iDfllcted DOl During the Emergency days Ilecall. it only on her but on our self-respect. He was bad heard Dr. Subramaniam Swamy. Mr. happy that he was received with red carpel. R.am letbmalani and many otbers on the He announced the defioite promise of very .ame question of humaDClghts. And I improvement in lhe changed cODfigura- happened to be there JD the United States tion. at that time ... in the United Nations ... and I bad occasion to talk IDformally to 50me Tben came an editorial by tbe Wall of Ib~m tbose in the CongrelSlODal Sub .. Street Journal calliDI' our Prime Minister Commit;ee: Ihey were inslstiDI on Iheir 6Rajive Reagan'... I do not know whether rieht to conduct ~uch roving enqUIries be takes it as a compliment •.. and a speech affectiDI tbe sovereignty of any country. by tbe New York Mayor hailinl Ibe Prime That n because their perception. are basi- Minister and Ihe promise of Indo-U. S. cally dIfferent from oun. The que51ion of rel8lioas. Then we had a major IDdo·U.S_ .365 Discussion re Interference CHAITR,o, ZB, 1907 (SAK"') by US. Congr"ss·s Hun " 366 in India's Internal Affairs Rights Caucus I Slui K. P. Unoikrishoan 1 would continue to exercise <;imall indigDa· tiO<1S like this and tben go back agaln~ :technology deal a few weeks ago. and tbere to opeD dialogues as various kinds. -Senator Lugar, Cllairman of the U. S. On this Punjab I wanf to say something. Foreign Relations Committee7 also annouo· .ced that our relations were going to improv~· It is not for the first time that the US The Prime Minister has said that arm~ adm'nisrrd.tion ha.s been taking interest in aid to Pakistan is a hitch. Will. the busy· PU'ljlb. Ever ~m.:e Indepcndence they have bodies continue to be active. Mr. L K. bad a, ObSCHIV": IDl~re:it in Punjab~ on both Jba saw an upturn in tbe Indo-U. S. rela· siJes:, [he Pakistan Punjab as well as the tions and Pundits like Girilal Ja;n are Indian P:ift of Punjab, because it was a eupboric over the promised 'Dawn'_ A 110 the:uy of that apo\oglst for imperialism, ·mdJEon dollar fund bas been set up for Sir Olaf Caroe who was the Governor of exchanges. Nortb- Wc:st Frontier Province, tbat the entire South Asia and tbe Persian Gulf COUD- tries can be controlled by those who COD- Now I want to pose a question. At least tro} Punjab. He has written a book It is .after this incident, have you learnt a considered a very important landmark ia lesson? The U. S. Commerce Secretary,. geo·political Iblnkinlit called Well,} of Power . . Mr. Malcolm Baldridge, is expected here 1t is this rheory of Wells 0/ Power wbich bas sbortly. I would like to know for what influenced the UOlted States Department Will you at least [ell him that, in the changed more than anything else in dealing with -confJguratioD, be is nOl welcome at least Pakistan and Jndia and (bey say Slra[~g'c now. ? interests Now tbe argument after Ihe recent unfortunate developments in Punjab Mr. G. Parthasarathy···1 do not know has been tbat we should not shut our eyes what he is in tbe foreign policy set-up···js if tbe Indian part of Punjab emerges as an aoing to visit the United States. Here is independent entity. Therefore~ tbe very yet another bit to improve the relations.··· question of our sovereignty is it stake in (Interruptionl) That is what I read in the this thinking, in this dangerous thinking newspapers. I have nol seen him for a long which not only bas to be condemned but time. Then tbe Prime Minister himself is which is a part of the neo·colonialist cons- goins: to visit in June. Then. Sir, people piraco agaiQst the sovereignty of the newly will be right in asking why tbis moral liberated countries or against couDtries like indignation 1 Are we concerned only with India which bas achieved its freedom more this little thiDI when tbey laid something: than tbree decade. ago. My point il thai in tbe US Coosre•• about Punjab ? Or this will continue and there is no ute io jUyt are we opposed to the attitude behind it ? gelting exercised over this particular inci- That is the molt crucial question. Did dellt. Unless we understand the US percep- you not know or are we pretending to tions we will continue to be foolc!'d. There- be ignorant and we do not know what is fore, it is very important for us to use this going OD? opportunity in undersltmding the basic interests of tbe United States in tbe sub- BasicaIJy It IS ~ question of different contiDent and as it relates to us. There- 'Perceptions and undentanding of tbe inte- fore~ while it i. very important that tbe rests. United States thinks that it hal certain Parliament should take note of this kind or interests and certain 'tights which at least breach and eyen breach of convention as to my mind are totally contradictory to between two sovereign Houses. it is also -our OWD and there canDot be any dialogue equally important for us to be wiser after on that. We can have diplomatic relations. the eventS. good relatioDI but Dotbinl more because Tbanlt you. their petCe,tioDI are different and it bas not chan,ed witb individuals or it is oat SHRJ G.G. SWELL (Shillong) : Righte- jnst a matter of supply of arms '0 Pakistan. ously this House is seized of and iDdigneDt Unles. we undentand thi' basic fact. we over tbi. abomination. a Iross interference 367 Discussion re Interference AllllL 18,198 by U.S. Congress's Human in India's Illternal Aflairs Ri,hts Caucus [ Shri G. G. Sewell 1 or J a. I say. it hal tbat cachet of the COD- gress. More unseuliog it is reported here ill the irtteroal affaiu of our sovereign is tbat tbis kind of hearing is not once aod counny and the attempt to distort tbe pic- for all. A series of these beariDls are in ture with a VIew to achieve ceftaio geo- tbe offin. with. vitw to prepare the situa- strate&ic political objectives. tiOD wben the American Conatess itself will hold a beariog oYer the internal matters. This is bow J look at it. But beforc I within India. corne to tbis question again and express wbat I feel a bout it all I would like to say Sir. I say this if ever that situation that tbese are difficult tImes fOf us. difficult reaches, I think, we would have reached a times (or our country. And I am grateful bro" kIng point with the USA. to my frieDd. Prof. Tewary for having brou- ght to the attention of the House a \\cahh We shalJ never lolerate anybody iDter- of documents and I must say it is news to fering with the internal affairs of our me a vcrv unsettling news wben he said tbat country. Just as I believe, no Americans. some these fire· eating protagonists of of wilJ tolerate their Senators and Congrcssm.:o Kbaliltan abroad were our guests he're in a a day lonser if tbe Parliament of India bolds place that we consider is the symbol of Ihe a hearing 00 tbe internal affairs of the: softrdgnty. tbe authority and the unity of American Congress and tbe American tbis country. If wbat Prof. Tewary has sajd Government. For example, we can bold is true, it meaD~ there is danger and it iA the beariDI of wbat they are doing about the o~cessary that we sit up and think about it human rights of the peop!e of Pakistan. In aU coollv and not just react to certain India, our people have tbe right to things p.~otionally. In a fight a penon who vofe for their reprclcntatives freely becom~ emotional and tbrows his arms They have the right to instal around - is a gon~r. You have 10 be col- their Government and to remove tbeir lected. you have to b~ sllong, and that is Government. The Americans have been ",by I would like first, before 1 come to unfair and unjust to themselves, They express myself on and I leJXat tbis word swear by tbe name of democracy. Here abomination - I caJl tbis an abomination- India is one countrY9 in 3/4th of the worJd 9 before [ come and say something more in Asia. in Africa, in tbe Americas or in about thal f I would like to put tbis news Europe .. you look at tbe map" bow many that bas come to u!; through a pri:!m and countries in the world are tbere where free look at it objectively aDd Ice what actua1!y and rair elections are held, ",here the people IbouJd be our job. have tbe right to det~rmlDe the Government, where a peaceful transition and a peaC'eful Fjrstly~ I would like to say that this s~ transfer of r ower IS assured. calJed hearing was organised uDder en aeg!s of the congressional Caucus for i'um'Ul MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Swell, there il a rights. Ir is not just a group of a number saying. There is a lot of drfference between of do· gooders, tilos.e sorts of pt opJe you saying and doing and that is always the can have anywhere ",ho try to prob~ and diffe.r~nce They preach one thiog and give a platform to some of these people they do sometbing elsc. They always prop whethn in America. Un lied Kingdom or up tbe dictetor!)bip. anywherlt'. This ",hoJe thlOg was done UDder the aegis of a congressional caucus wbr(.h mean!> fhe American Congless or a group SHRJ G.G. SWELL: But the Americans are doing this to themselves. They give to of (he mrmbc:rs of tbe American Congress their people tbe right 10 determine who their were involved in it. President Ibould be. But they don·t see wbai Sir this is tbe vilJain of Ibe piece In my Jodia bas done, bal achieved'. In the view. 'Secondly. the venue of the meeting whole of history. before the bar of history. i" m tbe annexe of the American Congle~s J ~ouJd say tbis is the greatnt IUCCe&s of buHdrog a'ld. 1t:~lefort. It bas loat sramp Jr,dl8 to keep this country tOlelher. 369 Disclission reInterference CHAITRA ::'8, 1907 (SAKA) by U.S. Congrtlss·s Human ..~s in India's Inttrnal Affairs Right!> Cal/cm ·'S MR SPEAKER: And we help otbers to asked to come and place its point of 'l"ieltj: do that. before tbis caucus. Tbey said tbat tbey.m" not want to do that because tbey felt ttwic this was not gOlOg to help the process of al SHRI G. G. SWELL: And to do tbis amicable settlements of the problem, as,ft in a democratic set-up9 I say this to the it were going Co help the process, they h~ Americans, if tbey would bave bad IJ4th or no objection. Tbis is entirely wrong O~, even l/lOth of the legacy cf history that we embassies abroad represent the sovereignty had, of tbe diversity, the problems of or this country. We are Dot subject to an~, pove:ty, tbe corHradicrioDs wit bin the lo:::icty, other sovereignty, exce pt the sovert:iguty 0(, AmericaD democracy would have collapsed our countrv And we can nnt ~o and long time ago. They swear by demo:;;racy. appear before any committee CODltituted by But they dOD', see what is being dODe io a foreign government, or forei&n coneress India. or foreign parliament. This should be the bao;ic thing of the objection and not because Now, I say it again if ev~r this i[ is nOI going to belp an amicable 50JutioD. mistake i~ committed that the American I WOUld like to draw the attention of the Congress will hold the hearing on what is Mioilter of State to tbis tbat he should take happcning in India - what has ilaPPC'Ded is it up witb Our Embassy and get a (ull copy bad enough - if ever we reach that slage 9 we of their letter which they bad wrincn t~ would bave reached the breaking point with this so-called caucus, America. Sir~ I would likc to draw the attention of the House to another aspect of tbe news tbat bas corne. This IS the new I will make some concrete suggestions modlts opera'ldl of a cenain rerrograde group at the end of my speech, but before I come of people of our country - the Khalistan [0 that~ 1 would say that these do-goode.. s· protaganisls. They started with rowyism, the so-ca.lIed champions of the human rights. aftacking our dIplomats. desecrating our in America * therefore they are the do- Embassies and our flag outside. But they gooders, and there there are so many of them found later they had made a nuisance anywhere in the world - bave not done any of themselves those couotries; in Canada good to anybody including to themselves. and other countries they l'ecome a nuisance This is wbat I am &oing to say. They have- and a law and order questjon. This then been dishonest. They have been untrue. is tbeir a new mndus r pt!Tondl to try to sell They have been untrue to India, UDuue to KbaJistan to tbe world and to denigrate the cause of democracy and untrue to Jndia, by creatin, public opjnioD~ mobilising whatever J ndia has done in tbe cause or public opinion and governmental opinion in democracy. They have been untrue to the other countries of the world against Ui. Sikh~ themse]ycs. They have been unlrue I would like to 5ubmit [hat we should to the people. to the sikh community which under stand this challenge. J would like is a treasure and which is a respected to ask this question of the Mmisler of State community in our country. for Ex.ternal Affairs who is ber..:. What has our Embalsy 10 AmErica been doing? MR. SPEAKER : Tbey are wilfully You may lay that you have protesled h is lIood tbal, you bave protested But what doing it, did you do to see that this sort of thiDg did not happen? If Bhullar and Dbillon SHRI G. G. SWELL: Tbey bave beeo Bod people or tbat ilk could succeed. what uDtrue to them. The lies tbat tb~y said. were we doing ? as )OU remarked SI(. with tbat the killicg of the male population of the Srkhl by .be Sir, I find another tbinl. which to me almy bas been such thal there win Dot be as a former ambassador. ill: incorrect and is anothu eligible Sikh bac-belor foe anotbc-r • wrODK thins to do. The protest letter twenty years. It is l5u(h a blal8Dt lie aDd tbe say. tbat tbey were Dot attendinl! Tbe coo,C'mptiblenels of tbe wbale tbiDg j!'J sucb Emb... y of lodia ba. alan obviouly been that one does not know whetber to lauab 371 Discussion re Interference APRIL 18, ]985 by U.S. Conuress's Human 372 in Indis's Inter\ at Affairs Ri,hts Carl<'us [ Shri G. G. Sewell I What did our lamented Prime Minister do 1 She had no pleasure in sending the or to cry4 I would like to take this oppor" army to thc temple, Was it out of pleasure? tunjty .and convey Ibis. If America i. short I tbinl(. sbe literally shed tears when she of bacbelors, an,. number of our bearded bad to do it, just like Abraham Lincoln and turbaned young men can stand in with shed tl!ars when he had to send the army pleasure. to tbe South. Sbe did tbat in order to maintain the unity of the country. What MR. SPEAKER: From Punjab you had Amricans gO[ to say co Ihal? You mean '7 could have any group or made people in the w:1rld; and more: mad people are iD SHRI G. G. SWELL: Yes. they can Amenca than in the relt of the world. be sent with pleasure. I am sorry. you Ibould also have WOCD a beard. It is 10 I do not remember the name today. A untrue tb'll anybody who com!:s to India. couple of years ago, a leader of America can see for himself about it. Even here in took about 1000 people ~omewhere and the Capital. how freely Sikhs arc: moving, made them drink poison and commit in tbe ofrices. in the Army, every where tbey suicide. Wbat bad Americans got to say arc. to that '1 A group of mad peop1e. should I say. driven by hallucti!latron and Imagi· MR. SPEAKER: Well, it is their nary deprivation djd atrocious things and counlrY and they are rUDning tbe show. resorted to indiscriminate killing of innocent people: in order to create a situation and a SHRI G. G. SWELL: With this kind climate in thc country by which a part of of blindness, tbis kind of ignorao.::c:. are this country would be dismembered. That these Americans doiolll any good to America? is what they were doing. What Indiraji Are tbey not telliDg tbe 'World that America did was to stop tha.t. is a nation of the blind and dishonest ? Are they doing any good to themselves I think instead of lhis kind of thiog the Tb.er are untrue to their owo history. Americans should come forward today and pay their tribute to Shrimati Indira Gandbi 120 years ago, America went into a war for what sbe had done, what she had paid against it,clf, fought a civil war; and the for with ber lir~ and if they are sincere. man who led that war is tbe man who IS tbey should put her in the same panthoD as cODsidered by the Americans to day aDd Abrabam Lincoln as ODe of tbe topmost riahlly by the rest of the word as the greatest leaders in tile world. President thar America bas ever produced- Abraham Lincoln, a man of Godl a man They speak about human rigbts of the of prayer, a man who felt for (be people. citizens. We have been in tbe rorefront to Their is so mucb or mysery in the world. speak on behalf oi the human right. of Wheo tbat man used to walk. he presented peopl.: everywhere in the worJd. But I a,k a picture of melancholy. He did oot fjnd [he Americaos. what about the human rights pleasure whcn the civil Wilf in Amedca of tbe DOll-Sikh population who were at the conCluded Witt. the victory ror the unity of receiving end before the wbole thiDg took America. Tben wby did he do it? He did place? Many Hindus, bave they not lost it becau'Ie be tbought tbat the uoity of their lives? When this group of gangslcrs, America was or paramouot importance to buccancers hallucinated, or drove and tbe fature of America; and if America to- motivated by certain forces, when they laun- day is a super power, it is because America ched a spree of killing did tbey utter a word bas remained united. it is because Abraham about human rights? This is hypocrisy. Lincoln had kept this COIJDt/Y united. If This is hypocri.sy, I agree with my friend America bad not been unitod, if Abraham and other fCiends~ Lincoln did Dot make this sacrifice. America would have beeD ODe of this banana Repub- Should we expect more or these things? li!:S. That tbes. thinss do not happen 7 The ;'73 Discussion re Interjerence ellA lTRA 28,1907 (SAKA) by U.S. Con[ress's lIum.n 374 in Indis's Internal Affairs Rights Caucus American Coogres!' is not a body of Igno- SHRI G G. SWELL: But Mr. Ro.e ramuses! Tbey hav~ a g~o-political. geo- went off from here. \Vhether, we should strataglc objective's to acbieve. What they have a judicial inquiry - institute a judicial are doing in Pak;stan despite everything is inquiry - it is for us to find out. Who in terms of meeting their geo-Itrategic ends. are tbe people there to tell us? Who is And in their calenlation tbis India, a Mr. Rose to say tbat three or four Congress- uD,ted countrYt democratic country. - do men should be taken out and sbot? And Dot mind anytbing - does not fit into their bow can be say it '] (Interruptions) I tbink geo-strat~gic conceptions. And Ihtrefore it is pre-emptive: M.llU P!II>~uwl.l'i.iou~. India must be dismembered, India must be wOllld placed in a situation in which it he nut] wou:d ~i~, to ~ ... y. to :he Pl ime helple.s. Minister al he is go to the United States. he must go. MR. SPEAKER: But tbeir dr.am will naver come true. AN HON. MEMBER: Stop him. SHRI G.G. SWELL: I tbink tbis debate SHRI G.G SWELL: I do not tbink. has served its purpoee. We should not That will be over~rrac.ing. We do not act over-react but we should make it known to in a hurry. we act in a mature manner. them tbat this ilioct of tbing .il understood by After all, we have to talk, we will talk, even us and we all in this country sfand united with the wont of our enemies we talk. to figbt tbis kind of thing. MR. SPEAKER: We would make tbem But having said a11 that. I would like to see sense. say that we must act as a mature nation and not (wer .. rt"~ct; ~'e !'h('lulc' nol try to SHRI G.G. SWELL: I b.Ech tc .... iIl kill a fly with a cannoD, After all. it is ooly BO With all our blessjng, with all our good... a group of people. I would not say even will and may he succeed so that all these kind at tbis stage tbat the American Government of things WOUld disappear from lbe mind of is involved. I will not say that. I would- tbe people of America as dew in the morn- ItiJl give them tbe benefit of tho doubt. ine when the sun shines i (Interruptions) SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD t We do MR. SPEAKER: I do not think people not believe in it. He is diplomatic. of America will think about it. MR. SPEAKER: We are gnod people. SHRI G.G. SWELL: AI tbe lame time, let us go ahead with tbe Festival of India \Ve are sane thinking people. and present what India bas got. After all, there are many pf'ople in America too who SHRI G.G. SWELL: If you would would Ijke to bear &lDd l:oow abou1 us better.. not ice, one of the inter-locutors tbe kind AI tbe Ministtr for Culture said, Ibe otber who attended the briefing ",,·as a representa- day_ Ihe bulk of Ibe expenditure for tbe tive of the State Department~ one Mr .. ROle .. Festival of India would be met by the people He said a number of things. sensible things. of America, This means a lot. This means He said thaI [be Sikhs outsJde should not that there is a desire to uDcentand us. Let do anything. which would create difficulties us lake this opportunity. But I wculd like for the Sikhs in India. (Interruptions) to say Ihis to tbe Minister. You bav~ to make your embassies a Hnle more active~ He alia laid that tbere is no question You have to bave: at tbe top of yOUJ embassy for dilcriminafjoD aeainst Sikhl in India. peopJe of imaaiDatioD. people of dyaimism. He .aid tbat. Dot tbe people who just live a lood life over tbere end rtlease this kind of a letter, I do MR. SPEAKER: He could bave said. not know who bas written this letter. Might 375 Dtscussion re lntetference APRIL 18, 1985 b;• U.S. Congress's Hu111a11 376 in Indis's Internal Affairs Rights Caucus [ Shri G . G. Swell ] agents. In th~ book Who is Who published in' U. S. A. in 196S it bas been stated that be Third Secretary of your Embassy. Jf I all :he three Ambassadors of America in were the Ambaqsador I would have drafted India, Pakistan and Bangladesh have been the whole lett'!r myself and not left it to CIA agents for quite a large number of others. Of course, it will not go• over my years. It is not fortuitous that all these name because there is a certain status. But three American CIA agents wert! placed in I will ma ke sure th'i t the letters do not make the sub continent at a time when Indira this kind of a faux pa, that we do not parti- Gandhi was killed and wl"!en the so-called cipate because it is not going to help the problems of Assam and Punjab were shot situation. up. The whole campaign is really to divide India , to balkanize Ind ia . Actually, the We are reaching the stage when these headquarter of Khalistan Movement is Khalistanis have launched into a sophisti- neither in Punjab n or in any part of India. cated campaign We must meet them on It is either in Canada or in Britain or their ground. We must be able to explain in USA. As quite correctly said by my the situation to the people in the whole friend Shri Tewary, how is it tha t these so world. And we must make it cleare that called Western Countries having democracy we will not tolerate any snooping or in their own countries, allow a few Si kh interference in the affairs of our country. extremistes to do whatever they like ? In Canada, very recently an advertisement has MR. SPE<\KER: I agree with you. All been given in th~ Press that any Sikh who that glitters in thts world is not gold, but will be desiring to undergo combat training still there is sJme gold left in this WJrld. and then to go to Punjab, will get $ 1,250 a month, free lodging and boarding and will SHRI N L\RA YAN CHOU BEY (Midna- also get bonus. He will also be given a pore) : I join the entire Hou~e in condemn- very respectable burial if he dies. This is ing what the so-called American caucus has the advertisement which has been given in done. the Press. So, Sir, it is the Khalistanis who a re beating o!.lr Ambassadors and are break· My predecessor has just now given a ing the confidence of officers. They bad very good speech. I beg to submit that this the temerity to disturb even our sports team tirade against India by America is nothing when it went to Los Angeles for games. It new. Wnosoever has gone through the could be clearly seen that when these Sikh history of India knows how the Americans demonstrators demonstrate in these coun- have behaved wit h India since its indepen- tries, they are joined by the so-called Afgh an dence, h ow the Americans have behaved with freedom fighters, the Kashmir Liberation us in the matter of Kashmir and Goa. Front people and even the obeservers from Kashmir would not have been with us today Paki5tan Embassy. So what we are to had we followed the American strust. In d i thlllg and they are prepared to have a full A medea is on tbe defensive. Americans dio:;cussion on all our internal Clatters in the holV'C failed in Vietnam; American game is forum of their Sonate, but as all the friends f~iling in Kampucbea; American gam~ is have said, they never discuss what is the faihu« in Afghanistan and the eotire black condition or the American Negroes, they never Africa is rising against the US imperialism. discuss with the students. In democralic And this country, India. which had attamed USA. military had to be called to take some its IDdependence by fighting imperiilism- Nagro studenty to a particular school, and although trat "as tbe British imperialism. now jn many areas. the Negroes and the shall definitely be able to stand against the white Americans do not live side by side. st.J.Dce of Amencan imperialism. You see wbat these American people are What should we do now? I fully agree" doing in Namibia, what they arc doiDe in that the people of our country should be Nicaragua, "hat tbey are doing in Soulh educated regarndlDg tbe role of imperialism. Africa, what tbey arc doing in many otber That is a must. And our Government parts of the world, bow they supported tbe should not believe any more in nice statements Pol Pot Government in Kampuchea-the from Mrs. Thatcher or from Mr. RealaD. government which is rcspom:ibJe for killing Many a time we have refused to Dame. 30 lakhs of people. These tbings they never American imperialtsJD. It is a good tbing reply. Tbis alalQ is tbe policy of American tbat today in tbis debate speakers are com- Imperialism. As very correclly stated by IDg forward and speaking agaionst American Shri Tewary, how is it tbal tbree months imperialism. But I will request tbe Govern- before Sbrimati Indira Gandhi's assasina· ment also to be a little bold. There J'\ no I ion, tbe report was published as to what reaso'n for tbe Government to be afraid or would happen in India when Shrimali Indira American rmperiaism. There is no rE:ason in (]andhi has a sudden death? How could the name of diplomatic niceties to refrain tbey come to tbe conclusion? Therefore. from naming American imperialism, So" if we conclude that Amenca had a hand In thiS is a Icuon [hat we must draw from the assasination of Shrimati Indira Gandhi. [he nefarious games of tbe American Seoate it wiJI not be far from truth because America or Members of the Senate. The Govern.... never tolerated Indira Gandhi or her neutral ment must come forward to educate our policies. Not onJy today, but ever since people througb all the medi.. through the our country attained independence, we bave Press. through Doordarshan. tbrou8b all been supporting the freedom strug&lels of lndia Radio and even by publisbio, books many countries. It is our country. it was t") make tbem understand wbat American Pandit Ja"aharla) Nehru who had I,"ot tbe imperialism is. So, it is a good tbt£'g: that medical mission to China in 1938. Even has been done. But I want to mention one when we were not independent. \'Ie bad been thing. There loud prortettatjons of the entire supporting the struggles against imperialism nation against ,be nefarious activities of the So. tbis is our tradition. So, naturally tbe&e American imperialism mU'!it also be supported tbings we should not forget. Now. wbat by economic poliCies. If we continue to &houJd we do at tbis time? From what is depend upon American imperialism" then our happening. we must understand tbat there protestatiool only in political matters would is a plan. tbere is a concerted effor to divide Dot make any impact because rolitics and .our country. economics go side by side. ] would like that our DeW Government will take sUcb But tben India shall remain united. India economic pOlicies which will not make us is 8 country, it is a unity in diversity. Our dependc-nt upon Americans or imperialist Jcaderssbip bas always underslood [bat economies. If we do not do tbis, tben we thing. Yes, we have got many language~, shall be failing In our dury. I hope the I1CW we have got many religions we have got economiL policy which will be followed by n):lny regional problems, but even then rhe thiS Governme-nt Will be so as to pave tbe country remained united. the country shall way for our national independence also in remain united and nobody can break this tbe economic field. Otherwise our protest ... unity. Let tbe Americans understand tbat lions only in political matters would DOt be their game i. gOinl to fail. Everywbere Bble to b [ Shri Narayan Choubey 1 it i~ business, or industries or Agriculture or SerVices, but find that Sikhs are in the With Ihese words I once again joint the four front and arc mOlt prosperous in entire House and the entire nation in companson with other sections of Ihe condemmng this American Bame to bifurcate people in the country. There are no two my country and to balkanise my country. opinions about it. We are proud of the It will Dever be successful in tbis game. Sikhs. The Sikhs have worked for this counlry, they bave worked for the develop· [Tram/arion] ment of tbIS counlry. In times of need Ihey came forward to defend tbis counlry and SHRI ZAINUL BASHER (Ghazipur): worked for it. We have no enemity WItD Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, whatever bas the Sikhs bUI whatever power wants to happened in U. S. A. and about which we endengcr the unity and ialegreity of tbe are expressing our concern il very unforlu· country ",:ould be rou~ht in the: same way nale, e&peclalJy, at a time wben our hOD. as the forces bent up or harming the unity Prime Minister was due to visit that country and infelreity of America were fought by Recently, our Government have resolvtd Abraham Lmcoln. To day, America is Dot to cover a Jot of ground in improving our 'he lame country as it used to be in a& rel.lIons With U. S. A. The interview:. of the time of Abraham Uncoln. Even up to tile Prime Minister which appeared In the time we were fighling for the freeoolD the Indian and foreign newspapers acd of our county, American supported us. magazmes indicate thaI we are eager to America i. a democratjc counly. The take steps 10 fuubre improve our relations s)mpatby of America was always wilb witb Ihe U.S,A. There are no two opimoDs those people of different counlries who about it that tbe recent bearing in Amer lea founue.ht for the auainment of democracy on tbe pretext of human rights has given and for freeing. Themselves from slavery. But a set back to our relatioD~ It is not a new th~ attitude of Arr.erica changed after the tbing that in tbe U. S. A. tbe ISsue of set:ond world war. PreViously all the buman rigbts bas used for pOlitical been democratic forces of Ihe world and all Rhe and diplomatic purposes, The hOD. Member slave countries, cngaaed in fightinG for who spoke earhet have referred to this in freedom and establisbings democracy in detail tbat tbe U. S. A. raiSeS tbe issue of their lands, uled 10 look towards America human rights their t=olitical and whenever and those counlCles got Ibe sympathy of diplomatic situalioD warrants and keeps the American people, but after the Second Silent when it does not References have been. World War Amellca had become a power· JDade to Bangia Desh and otber countrieflo hungcry country. ADd wben America The happenmgs In South Aftlca and Palc!tine have been narrafed Violation of emerged as a super power, there was cbangc human rjghts bas been taking place thelc III tbelt attitude. There are DO two opiDions and tbe people are being killed and tor- about it thai America is a democratic luned. The people ('If America are not country but in tbe recent past tbe C.l.A of America had helped in establishing concerned Wilh what IS happening iD Sr i Lanka where people are bemg butchered military dictatorship by over tbrowing and burnt to death dally. They are only democratic goverDments in various parts of interested in Punjab wbich is an mtegla) the world. Today, a cbanged America is part of IDdla. The inCIdents in Punj",b are before us. It considers united India and an economically and scientifically strong takID& place wirh an aim namely to dlsinrc 6 &rate the country. The activllies which have India out of its camp. Today, our country been started bere and about wbich propa· i. heiDI aberaoed. Wby il this happening? pAda is being carried aD in other countries After a1l, wbat danger do we pose to is clearly and intcrfltrcnce in the intecnal America '1 Wby is Pakistan bciDg givc:n .rfairs of out country. ar ms aDd for what? Wbat harm can .... do to Pakistan? India baR repeatedly said tbat 1be Sikbs arc the most prosperouJ race whenever America Gave Arms to Pakistan, or our -counlry. Wt'cncver but see whether that country lauDched an ... ack 00 us. jSl Discussion re Interference CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKAl by U,S. Congress's Human 382 in India's Internal Affairs Rights Caucus Now Pakistan is being given arms in on I would like 10 say in regard to tbe: the pret~xt of Afghanistan armed it IS sai d happenings In Punjab lbtt ir the ForeIgn that Afmr;hanistln pOles a danger to Pakistan. powers do not interfo;;'!re bere, then peace But most of the Pakistan forces are dcp- Can be restored in Punjab very soon and Joyed on our borders. They are Dot deployed tbe Akali Dal can also be leenient. But all on Ibe borders of Afgbanistan. these things are caklog place 10 other cities like London, Ottawa, New York and We an know that Paki'litan farces DO Washington. The self slyled leaders of danger from Afghanistan because tbe KhaiJstan Ilke Jag)l! Singh Cauban. Ganga Russian Army is stationed at Arghanistan SI118h Dhillon, Bnajan Jogi are moving and Pakistan is no match to the Russian freely from LODdon to WaShington and from Army. Pakistan as well as America is WublDgroD to Canada. The Government well aware of this fact. Today. tbe arms or Britain and Canada are aiving thcm being provided by America to Pakistan are protection. Wby are tbey being given meant. to barm us. protection '1 Today, tbe .elf-styled leaders of tbe 20-00 br•. Kbalistan movement are permitted to enter Pakistan. Who does not know bow maoy I have read in the newspapers that a times Ganga Sinah Dhillon and Jagdish meeting was held in a Gurudwa-ora of Singh Chauhan have visited Pakistan? London. In tbis meeting all the extremists The extremists in Punjab are beicg given whether belonging to Punjab, Jammu and arm. training in Pakistan. Camps are being Kashmir or tbe North-Eastern Sta[es tonk: organilcd for them. The ex:treml-stl of part All these people arc engineering a Punjab are imparted training in guerilla conspiracy to under mme the unity and warfare in tbose camps. All these tbigs integrity of India The.e tbing. are taking are bsppening at the instance of America. place at the instance of the British and tbe In Pakl,tan, wbo was at tbe back of American Goveromentl. We are in the strangulating democracy? It-is tbe America knowled~e of all tbese things. Wbat is tbe themselves. Arter all. who helped in bring- way out. We should tell America In clear ing General Zia to powcr who belped in tenDS that we cannot tolcrate this thiDg tbe estabhsmcnt of Army rule in Pakistan? any more. We bave had a very sad expe... All of us know that America was involved eience with America. Whenever our in all these activities. Which was the force country took sleps to improve relations at tbe back of sending Bbulto to tbe with America or other of fhi. soul used gallows? In Pakistan a struggle foc revi- to bappen. After all, wby sbould tbis ving democracy is gOing on. \Vhicb. is happen? Wby should Ibe people of America the force helping in frustating the efforts of do this? What barm has IndIa caused tbe.e people and lending them to jail? It tbem_ can be Done else than Amer ica.. We want to stand on our own fect Presently. we have been !urrounded by We are non· aligned . We pose no danger America whether it be in tbe Indian Ocean, to their independence and unity. We want or in BaDII.desh or in Sri Lanka. 00 tbe to provide livelihood to the poor people one hand the Tamilians Brc being killed of this country. We want to raise their and tortured in Sri Lanka. and on the standard of hYing and remove their back- other band tbe America Army want! to ser wardncs9. We want to be self-reliant We foot in Sri Lanka. America is providing have not harmed anyone We do Dot substantial assistance to Sri Lanka. Recent- want to annexe any country. We do not ly tb. GoverDmeDt of Sri Lanka asked for want to stablish an empire in the world .. forces from Britain to be pJaced at their We jost want to time and let otbers dispolal. Wbat type of polilics is going also live wilh honour and want the on? Who i. playiDg sucb diplomacy ? Our otbers also to live with bonour. couDlry will bave 10 tbink over il and for- But ODe cannot under stand give wby mulale ils strategy accordiDgly. America is oycrawinc us diplomatically. 383 D;<;Cl ..5.5;On re buufl;l"(1l(e APRIL 1~.198 by U.S. Congress's Humart 384 in India's Interllal Affairs Rights Caucus [ Shri Zainul Bashor J filed against tbem and they should be brought here and put on trail. What is Why are they after us? We have to be the reason tbat they are moving (reely a.nd vigilcnt about the intention of tbe U,S A. ? with impurity? Not only Ihis. the British We s.hould tell America once for all that Government is making travel documents we are not going to bow befOle .hem, available to them 10 that tbey can go Our country can Dever be as toogs of the anywhere at will. They are going to U, S. impenliast forces Pakistan or Sri Pakistan to meet their counterparts and Lanka or Burma or Bangladesh can become tbere the extremists are given arm rrajnir.g. their stooges but Dot India. \Vhy have our Government not taken any step to curb this. No action ha5 bee') taken till today. Shri Tewary bas said The Foreign Ministers of DOD~aljgned somethio& which has cau5cd great anxiety, countries are meet in, here to disculs tbe He bas uncovered a conspin.cy being issue of Namibia We should ma.ke this hatched there. It 11 but natural thal the Conference a success, By making It a country sbould feels concerned over it. sucess the self respect of all the DOD aligned Will tbe bon, Minister state whether it is. countries can be maiDlained. If tbis a fact that Bn.jan Jogi and other Khalistam organisation remains stlong tbtn it c~n supporters enjoyed our hospitality and march ahead. Otherwise a Committee of tbey lived as guests in the RashtrapalJ tbe Congr~st; in America will raise the Bhawan wbich is a symbol of our UOlfY ? issue of human rights regarding lndia dOd. After alI~ how did tbey entent India and some other countries, at will. Does tbe stay at a place of supreme importance. responsibility for human rights rebH of ]t is very painful for us. Ganga SlDgb only on the people of America? Are the Dhillon also vi.sited Punjab, human rights in existence only bc.-cause of them '! Theyare silent in regard to STI don't want to dweB 00 it in detaii and Lanka, Pakistan and South Africa where I don', want to· refer anybody's name, ]t is violation of human rigbts is taking place not my intention to convert this discu~!.ioD.~ But they are takin~ inlcnst only in Punjab. into political debate. I dOD't want tbat Their way of thinking is wrong. "Vr a differences with our oppositioo parties should condemn it. The supporters of KhaJistan in England. America aod Canada should arisoe on tbe issue of Punjab, 1 bere arc openly conspiring against India. \\'bat may be dlffereDces of oplOion between us and the opposition on certain matters and are our Government doing regarding them? Recently the Brilish Prime Minister bad I do not want [0 aggramate tbe situation furtber. Tbe Central Government should paid a visit to tbis country. Wbat i" the coosider flDally out ways and mean to sort nature of talks held wiU.l her ? Wbd.t out this problem. The people of America action are our Prime Mini~ter arid [be and Britain not to speak of tbe Govern- Foreign Minister taking to pur a ban 00 tbJlr movement? They are moving freely ments to those countries have DO business to thin"- over it, I want the bon, Mini~ter in America and Caoadaa Persons not only from Punjab but also from North Eastern to clarify tbe position otherwise a Ie-nse States as also Amanulla Khan of Kashmir of misunderatanding may develop in the one active in England are englDeering country. conspiracy tbere~ \\I·e want that 'he unity of our country should remain intact What J waol the hon, Minister to st"te in action are Governmet taking in this respect? his repl,. under what circumstances the- I would like to know why these persons traitors stayed at Rashtrapati Bbawan as bave not been declared traitors~ why 'guests and were liven hospitality and bow prosecution has DOr been Jauncbed again! t they went back safe. Today. dUrin, this tbem and why no action bas been tdken discussion such things have come out a~ can (0 secure their extradition to thiS country? create an atmosphere of misunderstanding J want 1hat the Gove-rnment sbould declare in .. be whole country. May I, tberefore, tbem traitors fortb'Nitb. Cases Ihould be know what you afe aoing to in this respect? 385 Discussion re Interference CHAITRA 28, 1907 (SAKA) by U.S. Congress's Human 386 in [trdis' s Internal Affairs Rights Caucus Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am lure that rigbt to talk about human riahtl, it is India tbe unity and integrity of tbe country can and Iodia alone. India is tbe birtb·place of D~ver be undermined. This country will human rights - lDdia, the land of Gaurama always remalD one and united and will Budha and Mahama Gandbi. II is India emerge as a powerful country and as an which, under tbe leadership of Mabatma exemplar on the world stage in tbe Gandhi. fougbt for human rigbt. in South ncar future. Wherever human rights are Africa in the Twentieth Century. Therefore, violated, wherever democracy is strangu- we need not be told anytbin. about human lated, wherever atrociti~5 are perpetrated rigbfs. The U S. cannC't toler•• e J~,t;a against the people, tbe people of our being the Jarscst democracy in tbe world and country will raise their voice against it 00 all the prosperity of India; the United Statu earnestness. Our country will always protest have Dot been abJe to reconcile themselvel to against tbe violation of buman rights. tbis; tbey are jealous about our prosperity in We will not play politic~ and diplomacy on all fields. lucb issues. We win intervene wherever atrocities acc perpetrated America has no Not only tbe wbole House, but the wbole business to interfere in tbe affain of country is with you, and we want you to our country. The Government of India condemn it in strong terrn'iO_ It is very un- .hould lei! AllJerica ;uwiy tbat we always fO[(Unale tbat it should have bappened oa want good relation with America, we waDt tbe eye of the visit of our Prime Minister to to improve relatioo with them. we want to the United States to establisb goodwill and ,tablish cordial reJalioDs with all tbe friendship. I would only say this. Every couDtries and our Government are making one knows Ihat this country bas rouaht effort to focse good relations with America. British imperialilm. We ale not afraid of Our Prime Mioister is: goin. to Amenca any imperialism. Let it be made known to in the month of Junc. He must go but the whole world and particularly to the be should firmly tell America that our Unired States that we cannot tn1"l"atl" a~(I relations witb them Will be based 00 self we will not tolerale impeliaHsm to have its respect and unity and our relations witb sway in our cOllorry. them will Dot be such as to brook any interference on their part in our affairs. Finally, I would like to say tbat we mUI' With tbese words I conclude. Mr. Deputy be very frank. The whole country is with Speaker't Sir, 1 am tbankful to you for the Government ot India in safeauardio, the alvinl me time to speake. unity and integrity of India. Let it be told in unmiltakllblc terms lO all th= powerl in [Engli.h] tbe world that we cannot, and we win not. tolerate any interferenc in our internal SHRI V S. KRISHNA IYER (Bangalore affairs. We ate Dot interfering in tbe .. ffa.irs Soutb) : Mr. Deputy·Speaker. Sir.) would of any couDIry. We are a peace-Iovine like to join my otber esteemed colleaauel in nation, we are a Don·aligned nahon, we strongly condemning tbe attitude of the U.S. want fricndship with all countries. In raet. authorit,es in organizing a briefing on the we are fightin& for the human rigbls of issue of human rigbu, on the position of people in otber couGtriC's alto When lucb Sikhs in our country. The intention of the is tbe posicion, it is vcry unfortunate that United States is clear; hitherto it was bidden, the United States should bave oraanized but now It ha. become open. I do DOt want sucb a hriefing and tbal too in tbe U.S. to take tbe time of tbis House and repeat CODlress Annexe. Tbis sbows tbat it bad what my otber colle.,ues bave said just surficient blessings. We stronaly condemn now. There is nothing more for me to lay it. The wbole House, tbe whole counlry. e-xcept that this is a direct interference in tbe is whh the Government of India. Let them internal affairs or our country _ The U.S. condemn h io the strongelt possible terms. has no business to interfere in tbe .rrairs or The U,S. mUlt mend ils ways. Othen.ise. 011r couDtry. It is not for the U S. to talk the )"do-U.S. frien.bip .. ill be in danaer, about human right.. If at all rbere is any and it may not he in tbe interest of the U S counlry in Ihe world wbich bas the morol to lose our friendship. . - 387 Di$CIU6iOfl re I"ter/erencil APRIL 18, 1985 by V.S.Congre.\,'. Human 388 in IndiD:'3 Inte,.nal A/fair# R ights Caucu<~ [ Sbri V.S. Krisbna lyer 1 The Americans should know that when the lime comes we stand as one nalion aDd With thes~ words, I once again strongly fight for our unily. dignity aDd integrity. condemn lhe American interference in our Tbis American lobby sbould be told tbat internal affairs. tbe dirty hand of CIA sbould be witbdrawn from this continent and USA, as a super SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY (Alipurduar): power is not only aa eDemy of our cOuDtry Sir, at the outset I "ould like to join my but it is an enemy of the 1hlrd world whicb otber colleagues in the condemnation of tbls we are speaking for and wluch they American lobbY9 this American mterference think IS a thIrd military bloc. It IS not a in Ibe internal affairs of our country. milHary bloc but a non-aligned bloc. Tbe third world does nor like to fight with anybody or any country and it is a force Much has been said. but I should like which is working for peace and world to draw tbe attentIon of the House to ODe peace and world peace for the humanity. f.ct~ namely. when Mrs. Kilc Patrie vi.ired America should know tbat the people of India in 19!U, she bad a document contaming America and tbe people of the world do Dot a list of countries which had to be desta- want war. especially nuclear war and tbe biliscd; these countries were mentioned as nuclear power lJSA bas now become an prime targets and in tbat list. our country enemy of tbe eotire bumanity. They believe was on the top; the countries were Jodia, in nuclear war. They believe In destructjoD. Cuba, NJcaragua, Vietnam, Iran. Libya. Tbey belIeve tbat people should let fright .. South Yemen. Ethiopia, Angola, ened aod tbey want to lubjugate olbers. Mozambique, Algeria and Madagaskar. This Our guvernrnent should teU them boldly. i. tbe Jist. They may be a frieDd of Jodi.. They may bel p U 3 10 our economic progreJS. But we Now, wby are the Americans very much can not barter our dignjty aDd integrity aod aDboycd ? What is the reason "] democracy to be questioned over bere and thiS dirty band working in our couafry sbould be stopped and our govcrnment One rcason perhaps we can say il that sbould be bold enough to tell tbem tbat India is tbe leader of tbe non·ali,ned such dirty tbiog. India wiJl never tolerate movement wbicb day by day is progre.sing aad they will stand as one man and figbt and we are speaking for buman rigbts and against it until we get rid of such elements tbe liberty of hurnan beings everywhere in from India. the world. So this is very much anDoying to tbe imperialist nations like the USA, and tbrougb tbe CI A activities they want to Our Sikb friends sbould not be lubjupte aU tbe nations and bring them misunderstood because one or two Sikbs under their own rule and according to make mistakes. Sikhs are Indians and tbe their o.a likiD, tbe government snould be entire India IS for tbe Sikhs wherever tbey formed and destroyed as tbey like. In want to go and whatever tbey want to do India tbey know we differ in many tbing•. aad in whatever job tbey want to cngage We have maDy languages, different habit. themselves in, tbey are alwaY5 welcome and and different way. of life. We bave poverty we have faith in them as before and it will allO here. There arc many problems or remain and every Indian Sikh - I do Dot poverty and also some elements bere wbo say about tbose wbo have laken citizenship want scpar.tism and allo tbose who want or USA or Canada but-Indian Sikhs enjoy re&iooaUsm. These are tbe: things where equal eigbts witb other Indians. tbi. black band, tbi. black foreign band caD eater and because of proverty tbey bave t.kea .oale more roots here and are workiog So. witbout fear tbe Sikb "ommunity to disiotecrate our beloyed country. India should condemn theae agotl wbo are ....ic:b i•• o mucb uniled aad wbicb will tryiDI to divide our counlry from outlidea l'emaUl 1IDited. Tbank You. 389 Discussion re Interference CHA lTRA 28,1907 (SAKA) by U.S. Congres,s Human 390 in Indis's Internal Affairs Rirhts Caucus SHRI KOLANDAIVELU (Gobichetti- have got no fricndship wHh US; we have palayam): Sir, this is a matter which has lOt DO alignment with the US and one voice 10 be condemned with one voice We got we have to condemn the attitude taken by Independence through our great leaders like tbe US in tbis affairs. Mahatma Gandhi and we are safeguarding the interests of tbe peopJe ; safeguarding SHRI AMAR ROY PRADHAN (Cooch tbe unity and integration or this big: country. Behar) : Mr. Deputy·Speaker, Sir, I would The great poet Bharathi said: like to join the entire House in condemning the: V. S. A.':. Jiuct l.hleduc;"cc in e;ar AAYI~AM INGUNDU JATHI internal matters ITHIL .<\N""'!Y.'\R V .... !'!!:'~'_r Y"_lH"-L YENNANEEDHI" Mr. Deputy.Speakcr, Sir. news appeared yesterday in the India" Exprt!sI which says: This means fhat we have got thousands of ~eJigions and castes but we wlll never aJlow a foreigner to interfere info our Prof. Rose of tbe University of mattera. Just lIke this we have to condemn California said that 'ia my view tbe atrocious a<'t done by the US gcv'!!n· there are Ibree or four Congrels ment againlt tbe lDterests of lndia. The leaden lD Delhi who should be purpose of the meetina wbich was convened taken out and sbot: ,. by the Slkh people actually was to pave the way for full-fledged bearing by the US Ma, I ask. tbrougb you, tbe U. S. A. Congress on Punjab and to create diplo~ who had given the right to shoot tbe malic and political embarra~sm~nt for India Congress peopJe? Here Ihere are Congresil prior lO tbe June vlsi t by our hoo. Prime people, the Communist people, Forward Minister. Shri. Rajiv Gandhi. to USA. So Block people and the cpr (M) oeoole. There wIth an ulterior motive they nave GOile It; may be political differences between them,. with a prepianned idea tbey ha.ve done it. bUI when the question of national integrity.. So, It has to be condemned and the: entire comes. we, the peop1e of India, whoever it country and tbe entire people condemn this may be. be may be a Congress man. he may atrocious act of the US government. One be a CPJ (M) man. Anna DMK man or of tbe speakers Mr Ralpb Singh has accused DMK mao or be may be a Janata Party the Indian government of violating the man, but-we are aU one and united. human rights of Sikh, in Punjab State I do understand that. Actually the govern· Sir, we are accepting. the challange that ment is taking ever) Itep 10 have peace in has been thrcwn by the U.S.A_ governmeDt_ eaen and every par' of the country Ralph This it the proper time. )I is [he imperialists Singh bas stated in the lJS as if the we should not forget, that are giving tbat govecnment IS vlolattng human flgnts. If challeDge to our country's integrity. at all Ihe US government is safeguarding the human righb in each and every part of the world actually they havc 10 condemn the We: know that there are so mDOY people genocide whicb is goiog 00 ia Sri Lanka. in lb. hit list of U. S A.. but tbey sbould Thousand. and tbousands of tamilians are not forget that we, tbe Indians, whoever we being killed and assassinated aod the tbing may be. have got long traditions. This i~ i. Io-iog on eacb and every day _ They have the country of Mahatma Gandhi, tbis is tbe Dot condemned it but at tbe same time tbey Country of Netaji Subhash Cbandra Bose~ want to condemn in Puojab-Supposing. I this 1S the country of Rabindra Nalb Tagore,. would say, the super-powers, the Jmperialist Ihis the country of Bhagat Singh. this i. couDtries, want actually to create a world the country of Cbandrasekbar Azad. tbis i. war in this part of tbe world. By creating tbe country of Khudiram·Satyam KBDai. We a world war they want 10 sbow that actually are ready to sacrifice. the,. a.re over.whelmed whh military Cocces, I think, Sir. it is right time to lay tbat we (Interrupt ions) 391 Discussion re Interference APRIL 18, 1985 by U.S. Congress's Human 392 ;n India's Internal Affairs Rt,hls Caucus [ Shri Amat Roy Prad.an 1 national integrity and we the peopJe of India are all uailcd and one in this respect. So. We Iik. to be in the hit list of USA, I must request the hOD. Minister of State but we do Dot like to be in tbe humiliation aDd aho thrauah you sir to the Prime of USA. Tbe USA should I Canada and America. over· indulgence has otber country waSt in a position to hold this been sbown to th.,se terrorists. It is really meetiog and we made the offer at short very rcarcUable and we bave made it very bot ice tbat we were going 10 hold this meet- clear '0 tbeac countrie& that India's friend&hip ing because we considered tbis as a sacred wilJ depend upon tbe treatment tbat these mission for us to do it It is most regret- people get. Unlels these people are restrined, table that the USA or aoy otber country India's friendship will not be forthcoming to which may wish to or our fricwdsbip or which any such country wbich is going to hel p may say that tbey want to expand relation- 1-hese people. ship witb this country, they waDt to improve tbe bilateral relations WI tb this country and at tbe same time tbey allow sucb tbines to Now. Sir, I would like to make this bappen in their countries. no country will clear. Ie has bccn said from (he American tole-rate this. ; any otber country may eolerate .. ide that it was not an official organisation it. btlt I can assure them and I can assure which organised the briefing SessioD. It this House that India wiIJ never tolerate may be official or il may be uDofficial. Bm tbis. one thing I would like to ask them Wbat type of people have tbe, been keeping com- Extradition and oeber tbiDg!~ these are pany with? Dr. Ganga Singb Dhillon, ie,al melters about whicb it is difficult Major General (Retd) Bhullar, Ralph Singh. for me to express my opinion al this stage. ,tbe .elf-styled spokesman of the Sikhs Aas But one tbing J would certainly like to Prof. Tewary said, Mr. Deedar Sinah and assure my friend~ Sbri Tewuy tbat all such Mr. Bhajan SiDlh Yogi-if these are the institutions which are ceotres of OUf autho- 'people Ibat tbey waDI to keep in Iheir com.. rity, tbey bave the sanetily. they have pany, let them have it. You know tbat the respectability and surely that sanctitys these are undesirable people and we do not tbat respectability bas to be cnsured and bas want to have them in this country and we to be maintained; and thcrerore, there: do Dot want to do anything witll tbem. should be no apprebensin on this account to any penon or to anybody or to any I would like once again to say that individual. -whatever may be the question, whatever may be the relatioDshi p, whatever may be any Mr. Tcwary allO mentioned about Hard.. other tbinl, Ibe first thing is that we have to grave', book' Well, it may be hard grave or see that India's security is ensured, India's it may be loft grave. we have given it a territorial integrity is cnsured, lndia·s di~nity decene burial. Whatever they predicted in js ensured, JDdja~. self.rcspespeC't is ensured. that book, it bas really disiUuioned tbe~ Those countries whicb tbink that they will disappointed tbem because what happend be able to destabilise India, shall al ...ys he after tbe ane:uination of our great leader, disarppointed tbey are wrong. Tbose the country has ShOWD it by givinl a massive people who talk about tbe human rights- majority to tbe luccc,sor. It bad never well, as vcr,. ri.hdy said by so many happened that we had such a massive members-if they talk about human rights, majority; and tbls bas proved that JDdlao ,they must ao to America. tbey muat 10 to people are rnalure peop1e ; ebey understand Kampuchea, tbey mnst So to many other what tbey have to do and ..bat time they places, and they wilJ find Ibat II js only this have to do and what tbey bavc to do. -country and only this country's leadership whicb havo always railed their voice for the As J mentioned, tbere are no two protection of human riahts; and we "ill opinions al regards the security and safety continue to do it and we will always of this country. \Ve also bear very often 40 it. about foreign bands. Yes, we will be able 10 deal with the foreign hands certainly. My AI a matter of factt only tomorrow we sCDior colleague sitting here is responsible .are baldinl lb. Non-alilned Coordinating fBr the internal lecurity and safety and be Bureau~s meeting and that Bureau'. meeting will ensure it and we have implicit faith in. i. only for Namibia. This is a fact that DO him. 395 Discussion re Interference APRIL 18~ 1~85 by U.S. Congress's Human in India's Internal Affairs Rights Caucus [ Shri Kbursecd Alam Khan 1 ] would also like to assure the hon. Members fbat if there be any such thiogl But I would request m~' hoo. Members where Government has to take action, tbe here, that let us be mOlt! cautiou5~ about one Govelnment will Dever fail. The Govern- thiog, let us be alert rbout onc tbiog : That ment will never tail and this government wit} there is no local hand involved in it. nor be afraid. whichever may be tbe country~ or whatever may be its strength. PROF. K.K. TEWARY : Plea.e be more specific about what you said. What Some of tbe hOD. Members have arc his activities in tbe States ? About mentioned about economic independence in Bhh,n Yogi, tbat should be clarified. such matters. SHRI KHURSEED ALAM KHAN: I quite agree with them that political would certainly Jike to cJarify that~ that independence bas (0 be sustained by econo- yogi-I mcan tbat man Bbajan Yogi- mic independence and therefore, the Jatc certainly. their activities are moS( undesirable. Prime MiDister afrer the Seventh Summit We do Dot like to gct in1'olved with tbem. bad initiated this action and had appointed a Committee af five experts to ga into tbis PROF, K K. TEWARY : How did they problem of economic development and the stay here? financial problems of the Non~Aljgned countries and those experts have submitted SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN: a very comprehensive report. This report It is really vcry dfflcult for me to answer has now been referred to all tbe Non-Aligned this question off band; and therefore J have countries and thcir reactions are awailed made a request and rererence to my and on the balis of their reactions, and on honourable friend sitting here who is the basis of their advice, further action will responsible for such ma!ters. b~ LaK\.-u. ( Inlerruption5) Well, I must say that Mr. Sewell. had He wlll bave to look into this matters put it well and I admit tha t be bas said out and then only we will be able to answer. of his experience and he has always utilised it well-he was our Ambassador 10 Burma SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY (Alipurdware): and Canada-be utilised this cxpccence very You can exprns your displeasure about it. gainfuUy. But at [he same time, I would also like to say that wbat he said, that SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN: Indians arc very mature. that they do Dot Not only displeasure, but anger~ 1 would take very hasty action. tbat they do not like to express. take emotional action that is of course, My fricnd and coBeague. he would correct. certainly look into this and tben we will naturally ta~e the Decc.sary action. I wiIJ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : He was alia like to mention here tbat we bave, in our Ambassador in Norway and Burmaj very stroDg terms told tbe U.S A that cpt Canada. India will Dot tolerate such thing and su:h sort of briefings in their count;y. Because. we feel any country I if tb,=y arc really our SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN: friends. tbey should not allow these tbings I mentioned Burma, first. but J was misled to happeD Because, we do not allow these by these people. Tbey misled me. thiDls to happen in this country. If any relationships bas to be developed, it has to be developed by mutual trust, mutual MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You musl understanding and mutual relationship which be careful not 10 be misled by other are beneficial to both, Mini.tees. 397 Discussion re Inter/erence CHAITRA 28,1907 (SAKA) by U.S. Congresss Hllman 398 in India's Intt!rnal Affairs Rights Caucus SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN: in the principle of nOQ·intclference and Don .. 'I was surprised tbat tbe very experience inlervcotion in rhe affairs of other countries• .people of the External Affairs Ministry who We earnestly hope tbat other countries will are sitting to my lefl ... (lnrerrupllons). also respect our policy and reciprocate the same. I would also like to mention here that some hOD. Members bad alked as fa what As I mentioned, India is really a bl8 our Embassy ID Wasbington bad wrilEen to country and It cannot be ignored by any these people who bad convened thele brie- country At the same (fme, as I mentioned" fing meetings. lhey bad written a very It IS a very mdependent country and it will strong lcttec, It was made very clear by not, perhaps, be liked by those countries. our Ambassador that Indian representatives But wbarever they may think, we have to could Dot associate themselvel with any fQllow our policies and prinCIples whatever sucb move. which, io tbeir opinion, should they may be. We will not make any com- Dot be organised. They bad protested to tbe promise or give aoy concession on this count. United States Government. This bas been AH tbose countncs whicb have bpeD deahng dODe even here to tbe American Embassy. with Ihls country. know perfectly well tbat I am sure tbat they will realise tbM: wbat bas India is a country of prinCiples and it bas been done is not in tbe best interest of the certain guidelines for ils policies and. tbere- ,two countries aDd it should not be repeated fore, Jt will not be po!si ble for India to under any circumstances. deviate from them It will foJlow tbe patb which bas bt'en shown by our great leaders like Mahatma Gandhi, Paodit Jawaharlal J would like to mention one thing about Nebru and Sbrimati Indira Gandhi. We our Sikh brethern here. I would Hke to shall continue to follow the same policy. -.advise them tbat they canDot fiud the solution of their so-called problems in With these few words, I would once Canada or U S.A. or UK. Tbey can find again express my deep gratitude to all tbe ;tbe solution of their problems only in this bon. Members who have made useful con· country !lnd with tbe leaders of tbis country. tributioD to this debate. They have to come Clad talk to them. It has been shown by the leadersbip of this country bow considerate tbey are and how SHRI PIYUS T1RAKY : What about willing tbeyare to accommodate. But, at condemnation of thil American lobby? the same time. certain principles canDot be sacrificed and those should not be sacrificed. SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN: That every~ody should know. Well. you bave done it. SHR[ GIRDHAR[ LAL VY AS: We Wben I said that tbere is 00 difference should decide our own way. of opinion 00 this subject, whatever bas been said from both SIde.. of the House ••• SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN: ( lnlerruplion~). That is wbat I bave said. Tbey cannot flUd tbe solution in U. K., America, Canada or SHRI SURESH KURUP (Koltayam) : Germany. The solution will have to be would like to know whetber Governmenl I found in tbis country and through the lood proposes to take any concrete steps regar.. "",ffices of Ibe leadership of tbis counlry, dlog Ibis. becau,e nobody can solvc anythina of this country rrom outside. SHRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN, I have beeD teUiug aU tbis. I do not know ([nlerruptlofl'). ODe Ibinl I would like 10 meotion. If .betheL .. anybody .rici or attemps to interfere in the affairs of this CouDtry, tbat ..ill Dot be SHR[ SURESH KURUP : You were tolerated, becaule we bave always believed apeakinc iD a ligbter way, JUlt _I Members 399 Discussion re Interference APRIL 18, 1985 by u.s. C01lJ{ress sHuman 40()· in Indis's Internal Affairs Ri.hts Caucus { Sbri Suresb Kurup 1 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER No. nOlbioB. Pl."". sir down. I am very happy were taking part in the discussion, yOll are that aU 'he hon. Members actively too&. also making a statement. part in tbe debate. In conclusion, I want to say that the whole Bouse is unanimous saRI KHURSHEED ALAM KHAN: in condemning tbe interference in the inttrnal affairs of Jndia by any organisatioD or any I am DOt making a statement, I am tellin& other country. Thank you very much. the fact~ that I know ... (lIlUrrupfion8). The House now Btands adjourned (0 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I request reassemb1e at 11 a. m. tomorrow. the hon. Members to take their seats. 20.52 brs. PROF. K. K. TEWARY : Sir, lb. Home The Lok SQhha ,hen adjourned till Ele•• ,. Minister may also like to say something ... of tM Clnck on F"day, April, 19, 1985/ (I" tf?rruplions). Chaj'ra 29, 1907 (Saka) Printed a' lbe Indian Pr_