November 2014 $5.00 US $6.00 Canada Bus Conversion Magazine
Staying There’s Nothing Left A Warming Flxible to Go Wrong Alternative
November 2014 1 Publisher’s Note Gary Hatt
The Eagle Has Landed…in the Publisher’s Hands Tom talked about his 1967 Eagle with a 500 HP Series 60 mated to an PUBLISHED BY Allison HT-740 automatic transmission. He said he could clear most hills at 70 Bus Conversion Magazine MPH. That’s when I almost fell off the barstool. My MC-9 with a 6V92 crawls over 9852 Katella Ave STE 361 hills at about 35 MPH with a good tail wind. Anaheim, CA 92804 (657) 221-0432 Tom said it was built in Belgium for Expo67 in St. Louis and was the only Eagle Model 08 ever built. At that time 102” wide buses were not legal in the PUBLISHER U.S. so the bus sat in a warehouse until they became legal to drive in the U.S. Gary Hatt [email protected] We receive calls on a regular basis from folks wanting to sell their bus so they can down-size or upgrade to a new bus. This sounded like a routine ACCOUNTING/SUBSCRIPTIONS classified ad call until I heard that the bus was rebuilt from the ground up with Linda Sohn an 8” raised roof and was completely re-skinned. Also, new 1998 front and [email protected] rear caps and double-pane Peninsula windows were installed. Tom relocated the entrance door to mid-ship and raised the cockpit floor so his wife could EDITORIAL TEAM sit up front and be even with him while having a solid floor under her feet. He also installed two power-swivel driver and passenger seats to be used when Chad Laines and Mike Sullivan company is visiting. He installed a $10,000 Dux bed, a Sun Frost refrigerator, a [email protected] dishwasher and an ice maker. Tom spent over $500,000 rebuilding the bus from the ground up. CONTRIBUTORS I was planning on building or upgrading to a new bus within the next Gary Bunzer five years. I had already decided I wanted a wide body with a Series 60, Cruise Bryan and Rhonda Larrabee Control, Jake Brake, large holding tanks, an Aqua-Hot system, Balance Master John and Paulette Lingafelter automatic wheel balancers, a 12.5 KW Wrico genset, three roof A/C units and the coach to be all electric. This bus had all of that and more. I thought to myself WEBSITE “This bus is really unique” and would make a nice addition to BCM. So Tom and I worked out a deal and now it is my Eagle. www.BusConversions.com Questions/Feedback: I encouraged a friend of mine to take the Thanksgiving holiday off and [email protected] help me drive my MC-9 down to Phoenix and back. We took turns driving the Eagle back home. Now I have a new project to work on. I want to fix a few minor ONLINE BBS/DISCUSSION FORUM issues, which one would expect from a bus that sat in the hot sun for a few www.BusConversions.com/bbs/ years without being driven. The plan is to knock out most of these minor issues before the Quartzite Eagle rally in January so I can drive down and learn more Phil Lyons - Forum Admin about Eagle buses. [email protected] MODERATORS Be on the lookout for an article about my new Eagle in which I will provide Nick Badame more information about this awesome bus. If you know anything about the Jack Conrad history of this bus, I would be interested in hearing about it, so I can include it K. J. “Frank” Franklin in my article. This unique bus can be seen between Jan 15 through Jan 18 at the Paul Lawry Rice Ranch in Quartzite, AZ. Mike Sullivan From now on, I too will be soaring with the Eagles.
Opinions and techniques expressed herein are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent those endorsed by the Publisher. Bus Conversion Magazine and the authors On The Cover: respectively accept no responsibility or liability for any errors, omissions or alterations, or for 1958 Flxible Starliner any consequences ensuing upon the use of, or reliance upon, any information contained herein. Tasks performed in maintaining, altering and using vehicles may require specialized Owned by: skills and involve inherent risks to the person doing the work or to the safe operation of the vehicle. It is the reader’s responsibility to assess their own skills to determine if they can perform John & Paulette Lingafelter any such task and to seek professionally trained assistance if needed. 2 Bus Conversion Magazine Bus Conversion Magazine November 2014
In This Issue 4 Publisher’s Note ...... 2 Index of Advertisers ...... 3 Staying Flxible by John & Paulette Lingafelter...... 4 There’s Nothing Left to Go Wrong by Bryan and Rhonda Larrabee 10 10 Rally News ...... 20 A Warming Alternative by Gary Bunzer ...... 21 Sterling Classifieds ...... 26 Classifieds ...... 30 Service Directory ...... 30 Digital Edition Bonus Content Section ...... 33 Staying Flxible Bonus Photos ...... 34 Bus Chat - Eagle Air Pressure Is Low ...... 38 21 Digital Classifieds ...... 44 List of Available Back Issues of BCM ...... 46
Index of Advertisers Exclusively in the Ardemco ...... 31 October Digital Editions of BCM Atlantic Custom Coach ...... 8 Autex ...... 19 Additional photos from Balance Masters ...... 26 the Cover Story - Staying B & B Coachworks ...... 9 Flexible are included in the Byler Rivet Supply ...... 15 Digital Edition. Custom Instrument Panels ...... 12 Engine Heat Protection ...... 9 Plus, our Bus Chat feature Engine Power Source ...... 7 that brings you high interest Fastening Systems International ...... 11 discussions from the BCM Online Discussion Forum. Hitching Post ...... 6 Mobile RV Glass ...... 24 Also additional bus related classifieds and potentially RV LED Bulbs ...... 23 & 32 other late breaking info. Throughout the Digital Sun Frost ...... 18 Edition, photos with the Click icon can be clicked to open Sure Marine Service ...... 13 a much larger view of them. Tommy Kaylor’s Bus and Truck Service ...... 18 Wrico International ...... 19 Do you receive only a Print Edition subscription and would like to add access to the Online Digital Edition? It is easy to upgrade your subscription for absolutely FREE until January 31, 2015. Just go online to: Thanks to our advertisers for www.BusConversions.com/UpgradeMe supporting Bus Conversion Magazine. Then click the Online Add-On from the bottom of the list to order it.
November 2014 3 Staying Flxible by John & Paulette Lingafelter
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Working on vehicles was nothing new for us. At about After having restored several antique cars, I told age 12, I started motorizing anything I could. I built mini Paulette that I thought it would be fun to have an antique bikes, go carts, motorcycles, and a few race cars. I gave bus to use if we wanted to tow one of the cars to an out that all up to raise a family. After returning from the of town show. Surprisingly, when we tow a car to a show, Army I met Paulette and got married. Then for our 17th people are as much or more fascinated with the bus as wedding anniversary Paulette gave me a 1965 Olds 442. they are with the car. In 2006 we purchased a 1964 MCI, It was like the car we both had when we met. I restored gutted and completely refinished the inside, as well as it and I will never part with it. Little did she know that adding fresh paint to the outside. She ran great, but would snowball into several more cars and now buses. it wasn’t long after completion that I saw what I really wanted. I called Paulette to the computer and showed We own an alarm company and work out of the her a picture of a 1958 Flxible Starliner with a raised roof house. So whenever things are slow I head to the garage. that was for sale on e-bay. I said “I know we just finished As well as being my secretary, Paulette is also a school the ‘64, but this is THE ONE I’ve always wanted. “ She said bus driver. Both of our daughters worked on anything to buy it--but we are only a one bus family! So, the story and everything with me. Whether it was putting an begins. addition on the house, restoring cars, or just fixing things. Our youngest daughter, Melissa, has been helping us We flew out to North Dakota to buy it. The first restore classic vehicles for about 25 years now.”Melissa test run I did, I thought I’d crash! The wind gusts were still has a 1967 Mustang that we purchased and restored so hard we almost blew off the road. The winds that when she was 14 and Carli was 16. The deal was if the weekend were 40-50 mph. We drove the Starliner home girls restored it, they could drive it. to Cleveland with the wind storms following us all the way. We stopped to sleep for several hours the first night, and wouldn’t you know it, the bus wouldn’t start. After
4 Bus Conversion Magazine Paulette, “Don’t they know I have a bus to finish!” She an hour or so of trying options, I ended up whacking reminded me they are the ones funding this bus. the starter with a hammer and pushing the head of the hammer across the solenoid terminals to make it start. I had a little help from friends on the Starliner. Al is The rest of the trip, I often started it this way. All was well, a retired bus mechanic at a local school and has built or so we thought. While heading through the Chicago toll several street rods. He said he’d help me figure out how booths, there was a loud clunk when I tried to shift into to get the new engine and transmission into the Flx, but second gear. A key had sheared off in the transmission from there I was on my own. The school bus was front causing us to lose second and third gears. Did you know engine so we made some modifications to fit it in the rear that almost every toll booth exit is uphill? It was tough of the Flx. My brother, Roger, put in time with me working having to go from creeper first gear to fourth. The old on connecting the engine, figuring out the radiator Detroit 471 was working hard. Finally we made it home, and intercooler, etc. Amazingly in one week we had the took one look at the nicely completed ‘64 and asked engine in and in two more weeks it was running. Don ourselves “are you crazy?” I guess the answer was “YES!” does body work on the side, and I wanted the rounded back to be perfect. I’ve done a lot of body work on cars A little history: Our Starliner originally was purchased over the years, but thought I’d ask him for assistance by Peter Pan Bus Lines in Springfield, MA. The Starliner was the first Flxible clipper body style to have emergency exit windows instead of a door. But because it was used on a route in New Jersey they were required to have the emergency exit door. This is one of two Starliners built with an emergency exit door. As such, it has the window layout of a Flxible Visicoach. We sold the ‘64 and started work on the Starliner in November 2009. Our goal: to have it completed by July 2010 for the Flxible Rally in Loudonville, Ohio. The first thing to figure out was how to get it into my workshop. Double and single overhead doors were only 8 feet high and only a foot from the soffit. Guess I’ll cut a hole in the end of the building. I framed out a 10’ Click X 10’ area. I Added some heavy duty hinges. I then used a sawzall to cut out the opening. “Ta-da”, a new garage door. The 471 Detroit engine and 5-speed spicer transmission needed updating. We bought a school bus from where Paulette works for a great price. It had a DT466 International engine with a 3060
Allison transmission as well as electric wipers, brake Click components, wheels and tires, wiring harnesses, etc. I didn’t know anything about diesel engines, but now was as good a time as any to learn. I also started working on the exterior, cutting and welding patches where there was rust. Meanwhile Paulette started cleaning the inside. We decided we’d keep the cabinets, the kitchen area, and the shower the same for now. (We kept thinking of our July goal.) We took out all of the side windows, flooring, electrical and plumbing and started over. When I’d get tired of working on one aspect, I went to another. If I got frustrated with something, I’d walk away Click and find something else to do. I worked on the Starliner as often as I could. When a customer would call I’d tell November 2014 5 Staying Flxible
rubber trim, and replaced it all with new. She also made cushions and covers for the new table area I was building. She re-covered the sofa bed, then made curtains and quilt for the bed, as well as painted and wallpapered. Melissa would come over weeknights and weekends after her job as an architect to help me with body work, sanding, and machining the rivets to the correct size. Her Father’s Day present to me was to spend her entire weekend helping me paint the bus. The original work we did included these tasks: I replaced all high and low voltage motor home wiring, all bus wiring, and all the plumbing. We remodeled the Click bathroom, replaced the interior wall on the driver’s side New “Garage Door.” that was water damaged, built a new dinette booth, re-upholstered the sofa and made dinette cushions. We because of the time crunch. July 2010 was approaching rebuilt the co-pilot area and installed new captain’s chairs, fast. restored the dash, installed new glass and seals in the side windows, added new tile and carpet. We performed Other than that, it was just Paulette, Melissa and me all body work and did a complete repaint, upgraded doing it all. Paulette worked on all the windows, cleaning the brake system to maxi brakes, installed the new the frames, and removing the old glass and deteriorated
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I guess the Starliner will always be a work in progress. I knew we’d enjoy the Starliner, as we have camped for years. Never in our wildest dreams did I imagine others would have such an interest in our vehicle. We’ve been photographed and videotaped while driving along the highway, while stopped at rest stops and gas stations, and also followed off exits by people asking questions about our bus. We have been invited to bring the bus to several events: a few local classic car shows, as well as Blytheville
Click AK’s “Ghosts of the Highway” for the Greyhound Bus Terminal grand-reopening, and the FMCA 50th If we push hard enough, we might get it in there. NOTE: gen set Anniversary celebration in Gillette Wyoming. (See wrapped up in compartment on left) you tube video: http://www.fmca.com/component/ contushdvideoshare/player/16/194). Of course, we always engine and transmission and installed new rooftop air attend the Flxible Rally in Loudonville, OH every even conditioners. year in July. We have even done “The Woodward Dream Cruise” several years. We can cruise from 8 Mi. to Pontiac In 2013 the o-ring seals on the engine cylinders easily in the bus. started leaking water into the oil, so I rebuilt the engine. I installed a new turbo, new oil cooler, and new custom In the four years we’ve had the Starliner, we have aluminum radiator. In 2014 the windshields were logged close to 30,000 miles and been through 23 states. replaced. Once we retire we hope to log many more.
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November 2014 9 There's Nothing Left to Go Wrong
by Bryan and Rhonda Larrabee Our experience with a catastrophic breakdown
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I should start this article by saying I’m not an expert California and Arizona, maybe even a short trip into Texas. on buses or Detroit Diesel engines. My career was in We had three months’ worth of health insurance and Emergency Management which means I spent a lot of nowhere special to be. time as a “desk jockey”. Like most bus nuts, I try to learn as much as I can from people who don’t mind giving Leaving Vancouver in late January, we only drove 90 me advice. Technical details in this article are simply miles on the first day to a casino RV park in Arlington, WA, my interpretation of what I thought happened, not filling up on diesel. The next day we continued through necessarily correct. Seattle in a driving rain storm, stopping in Centralia, WA for two nights. Afterwards we were off to the Seven We own a GM PD-4108 “Buffalo” coach. We’ve had it Feathers Casino RV Park in Canyonville, Oregon for two for six years and we’re the third owners. We seem to have nights. Seven Feathers is a strategic “weather watch” stop the most unusual things happen to us and I’ve written before the 4000 foot climb over the Mt. Shasta summit articles before about the misadventures with my wife into Northern California. The summit was no problem Rhonda and our dog Zeke travelling in our bus. and after 230 miles we stopped at a casino RV park in Redding, CA. The weather was still rainy and cold and We made it eight days before the catastrophic after a night’s stay we drove another 165 miles south breakdown; leading into a long seven weeks before to Sacramento, where the weather finally broke and we repairs were completed. It was to be the second “snow- decided to stay for two days. We topped the tank up with bird” trip from rainy, dreary Vancouver to Southern
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10 Bus Conversion Magazine was clean, but in hindsight we shouldn’t have ignored that critical indicator. I decided instead to watch the temperature gauge carefully and continue on to Bakersfield, but when we got about an hour down the road, we pulled off in Modesto because the temperature was starting to rise. We dumped another two gallons of water into the overflow, and started looking for a radiator shop. The first problem was that it was Saturday; the second was that although I have a fairly comprehensive list of repair shops in California, I had nothing for the Modesto area. The guys at the radiator shop were obviously out of their element looking at the 8V71, but they were nice Click enough to have a look for leaks. Nothing. As we stood in front of the open engine compartment, it occurred to me The mechanics working on the engine that I might check the oil again. I discovered the worst $300 worth of diesel, a point to remember for later in our news possible; the oil level was way over full and the story. The eighth day was upon us. color of chocolate milk. I had my answer; the coolant was going into the oil and it was bad, really bad news. Every day that I drive our coach, I do a full pre-trip inspection. This turned out to be a habit that helped us I met RJ Long a few years earlier at the Bus’n USA on the long run, and if there’s a lesson for other bus nuts Rally in Oregon, and I’ve seen many informative posts here, you can’t go wrong with a good pre-trip checklist. from him on the BCM bulletin board, so I called him. As we were getting ready to leave Sacramento, all fluid He doesn’t really live in the area and he didn’t know levels were fine except the coolant which was very low. I Modesto well enough to recommend a repair shop, added two gallons of anti-freeze, and checked for leaks but he suggested that I call Storer Coachways, the local under the coach and around the radiator. Everything charter bus company. Thinking back to problem number
November 2014 11 There’s Nothing Left to Go Wrong one, nobody was open on Saturday but the guys at the reassembling the engine wasn’t an option anymore, so I radiator shop suggested a small diesel truck shop nearby. told him to hold off while I researched other options. So Rhonda hopped in the car and sure enough they were not only open, but said they could work on a Detroit Other options included having the bus towed 1000 Diesel. miles home, having the bus towed back to Sacramento or Williams, CA where there are reputable Detroit Diesel The owner was very personable and it was a good shops, storing the bus in Modesto and driving home sign to see a converted GM PD-4106 in the back lot. in our car, finding a used engine locally, taking up an When asked about it he said it belonged to his Dad who offer from a friend willing to bring us an engine from had passed away two years ago. He said that he and Vancouver, or scrapping the bus and walking away. his dad did all the mechanical work on their bus and he was very familiar with the Detroit Diesels. Trusting this Over the past six years, not including routine person proved to be an expensive mistake and severely maintenance, we’ve put $22,000 into the bus. We spent limited our short term options. Knowing what I know $4,000 on towing equipment for our car, $3,000 for new now, I should have parked the bus somewhere for the tires, $2,800 for a rear brake job and the rest on regular weekend and taken RJ Long’s advice. A few days to do repairs and updating the conversion. It was difficult some research in the area wouldn’t have changed the to consider scrapping the bus when we looked at the ultimate outcome, but would have saved money, stress investment we already made, knowing full well that it and time. was never going to be a recoverable investment. It’s also important to note, this was the fourth time the bus has On Monday, we dropped by the repair shop and stranded us a long way from home. We kept thinking, found the bus up on ramps with the heads removed. The “There’s nothing left to go wrong”. Apparently this is not owner was nowhere to be found and we couldn’t contact a good way to look at bus ownership. him either Monday or Tuesday, even after dropping by the shop every few hours. On Wednesday he finally called We called every RV storage place in the Modesto area and said the bus needed an in-frame rebuild and gave us and none of them would allow storage of a non-working an estimate that seemed out of this world. I knew that RV. They would not allow us to tow the bus onto their property. The repair shop’s decision to remove the heads took one of the most desirable options off our list. We called local tow companies and all said a tow to Sacramento or Williams was too far, no one would come from Sacramento and the shop in Williams wouldn’t return our calls. Our next move was to call Mundies Towing in Vancouver and they recommended a truck towing company in Bellingham, WA. The company rep spent quite a bit of time discussing the options for us, but without looking at our coach, and knowing there are roof mounted air conditioners, he warned that the bus may be over height and that the wheels may have to be removed making the loading and unloading difficult. The estimate was at least $4,000 and possibly more. On Wednesday I called a couple of my Detroit Diesel mentors back home. Our friend Mike Muncaster found another PD-4108 for sale reasonably cheap and he was willing to drive it to Modesto for us, and help switch engines but we would still have to buy the bus, pay his expenses and get a shop in Modesto to do most of the work. Costs were going to be the same as getting a rebuild, and we wouldn’t know what we were getting. I also decided to eliminate the option of buying a used engine locally for many of the same reasons listed above. I had a long conversation with Bunk McKay, a fellow BC Bus Nut and Detroit Diesel guru. Bunk owns a nice 12 Bus Conversion Magazine by Bryan and Rhonda Larrabee
he had already done. He wasn’t getting any argument from us; there wasn’t much we could say. It took a full day to move the bus off his ramps and out of his yard because the wrecker couldn’t get in. There was a two hour time frame when the bus was left so the owner could position it for the tow truck. It finally made it to the second shop 30 minutes before closing time on Friday afternoon. The first week had passed and we were still living day to day in a hotel room with our dog. The work was going to take two to three weeks. The shop manager said that we were welcome to stay in our coach while the repairs were done, but in spite of a very secure yard, the shop was located in a less desirable part Click of town. I was all for saving money but Rhonda said she didn’t feel safe, so the discussion ended there. We Parts from damaged engine. Note the scorching on the pistons. Past moved out of the dingy room we had at the Clarion and overheating problems were probably the root of the problem. found a nicer hotel at the LaQuinta in Salida, just north of GM PD-4107, very similar to our coach and I’ve been lucky Modesto. The room rates included breakfast and they’re to pick his brain often for advice. He asked me a hundred pet friendly. questions about the situation and what the repair shop On Monday we got an apologetic call from the shop was doing and saying. He said they should have never manager saying that they were a man short for the next started by removing the heads. The usual procedure is week and although they would try to get a diagnosis on to look at other possibilities such as the oil cooler or the our engine, it might take a week to get to it. Well, what water pump. A pressure test with the heads intact would tell a lot. Bunk’s advice was very simple: “Get your bus out of that shop. The guy doesn’t know what he’s doing”. It was time to have that “heart to heart” conversation with Rhonda. Should we scrap the bus or take a major financial hit to get it fixed? To be honest, I was leaning towards scrapping it and walking away. I was surprised when Rhonda disagreed and said, “Let’s do what we can financially, and get it fixed.” It didn’t take much for this humble bus nut to say, “Okay, that’s what we’ll do.” It certainly didn’t help the stress level but I do love that bus. It was now Thursday. The bus was still sitting in limbo at the shop and we had to take some action. I took RJ Long’s advice and called the Maintenance Manager at Storer Coachways. He was very helpful even though they don’t take any outside work, and they don’t have any more coaches with the old 2-stroke engines. He explained that the Detroit Diesels are almost illegal in California because they don’t meet emission standards, but since our bus is designated as a private motorhome, there was a local shop that he highly recommended. We immediately drove over to that shop and had a conversation with the manager. He had all the right answers so we made arrangements to have our coach towed over the next morning. On Friday morning we turned up at the first shop and informed the owner that we were towing the bus to another shop. To say the least he was very unhappy and charged us $800 for the work November 2014 13 There’s Nothing Left to Go Wrong the heck, we were already bleeding money, what could California Coast to Ventura. I want to stay on topic for this we say? article so I wrote a travelogue for the online version of the magazine if you want to follow. Ten days later they were finally working on the coach. The manager called me in and showed me the water test We were constantly in communication with the and water was pouring out of the gearbox. The in-frame shop in Modesto. We finally got the cost estimate when diagnosis was confirmed but they had the check to make we were in Palm Desert in the middle of week five. We sure the block wasn’t cracked. The third week passed and told them to proceed and they promised to fast track as all we had was a bus with parts strewn all over the shop. much as possible. On the Friday of week six, we were in In a casual conversation with one of the shop office staff, Ventura, CA and we got the call that the bus should be she mentioned that another major rebuild was on the ready on Monday. way in. It was a rear engine bus from the school district. I could easily see that this was a very busy shop, but I We called the truck shop on Monday morning and wondered if the school bus might take priority because of we found out it would be another day delay. Tuesday, no a contract arrangement. change, check back on Wednesday. On Wednesday both Rhonda and I were cranky and the call to the truck shop At the beginning of week four, we got the good let us know that it would take at least another two more news that the block wasn’t cracked. It was going to take days. Hopefully Friday it would be ready. another week to cost out the job because some work had to be outsourced to other machine shops. Then suddenly Rhonda said “Let’s go to the shop.” I knew that was nothing was happening. At the end of week four, work code for “I want to march in there and kick butt!” So, in was being done on the school bus and we were still order to make my life easier, I drove us over and Rhonda waiting for our cost estimate. I was literally begging marched into the shop and created some havoc. She felt the manager to get us back on the road and he was a little better afterwards and the next day we drove by sympathetic, but was still waiting for the outside quotes. after hours and although the shop was closed, someone was working overtime on the bus. I’m not great at math, but the two to three week time estimate still hadn’t started. Rhonda and I decided that It was finally the Friday of week seven. The shop since we were going to be staying at the LaQuinta for at crew worked overtime to get the bus ready for us and least two more weeks, we might as well salvage part of at around 7 p.m., we were all on hand to ceremoniously our vacation and hit the road. Modesto is nice but we start the engine and have the mechanic do a test drive. had already been here a month. It felt like we’d moved Start the engine! Nothing. Try again. Nothing. Re-prime there permanently. and try again. Nothing. The mechanic turns to me and says “Is there any fuel in this?” We loaded the dog, cooler and luggage into the Malibu and spent two weeks travelling south through We filled the tank in Sacramento, just an hour up Bakersfield on to Palm Desert, San Diego and up the the road. There HAD to be fuel in it. I pulled out my fuel dip stick, dropped it into the tank and it bounced off the bottom. The tank was empty, bone dry. Somewhere, somehow somebody stole over $500 worth of diesel. I really didn’t suspect the current shop, because their yard was secure and if there was a fuel theft, more than one vehicle would have been affected. Didn’t the first shop have the bus for a few hours unsupervised while they positioned the bus for the tow truck? How could we go back six weeks later and show proof as to when the fuel went missing? On Monday the shop put 45 gallons of fuel in the coach and we finally had our celebration. After a few test drives and close inspection, the bus was ready to go. 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Click recheck after 1000 miles. The plan was to go to Las Vegas for a week, so the return distance to Modesto would be perfect. Is this story over? Not by a long shot. Rhonda in Bakersfield, California
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an eye on it especially for a raise in the oil level. He said “You don’t want to be making oil, which means there is diesel in the oil”. We spent the next night in Barstow and rolled into Vegas around mid-day. The oil level was slightly higher, but I couldn’t smell diesel. Was it my imagination? Am I being over cautious? We spent ten days in Las Vegas enjoying the hot weather and started the return trip to Modesto, stopping in Tehachapi for the night. My pre-trip inspection confirmed my fears. We were making oil. The level wasn’t extreme, so we decided to continue on to Modesto the next day. Arriving in the late evening we parked the bus across the street from the shop and spent the night. Click We were more than anxious to see the end of Fuelling up in Modesto after having diesel stolen out of the bus Modesto and the manager put a priority on the work. Some screws were replaced and the oil was changed. He We fuelled up in Modesto and headed south on said when they originally painted the engine they got Highway 99 stopping in Fresno for the night, through paint on the contact for the tachometer. Bakersfield the next day towards Las Vegas. The tachometer wasn’t working which was a minor irritation We were back in Sacramento that night and decided because I probably use the tachometer more than the to spend two nights to decompress after the long drive speedometer, especially when we’re climbing a summit. from Vegas and the stress of being back in Modesto. The As we pulled in for fuel the oil light was faintly flashing pre-trip as we left Sacramento looked fine and we were and the buzzer came on although it was not very audible. off to spend the next night in Redding, the last stop in I checked the oil and everything looked fine but I called California on our way home. the shop manager anyway and described the situation. When we arrived in Redding, I immediately checked He said the buzzer sounded like a loose wire but to keep the oil and guess what? We were still making oil. I called
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November 2014 17 There’s Nothing Left to Go Wrong another of my Detroit Diesel mentors in Vancouver, James Pearson and he said the very first thing he would have checked were the fuel stands under the valve covers. He said “It’s easy enough to do this yourself, just take off the valve covers and tighten up anything that appears to be loose. Look for cracks and other leaks while you’re at it.” We were parked at a casino in Redding and I had nowhere to do the exploration. The V-drive engine is on its side and slightly tilted requiring a climb deep into the engine compartment to get to the back valve cover. I gave it some consideration and decided that I’d probably get it half done and someone would make me move on. Having nowhere to work on the bus was a problem. Click I called the shop in Modesto and the manager suggested that we get an oil change in Redding and Engine is mounted on a tilt making one cylinder bank bring the bus back to Modesto. I told him I’d get back to very difficult to access from the outside him and considered the 250 mile one way trip back to Modesto for about two seconds. My list of repair shops Using our GPS, we found the shop down a long didn’t include any in Redding, so I dropped into the local secondary road on the far outskirts of town. Sure enough Freightliner repair shop and talked to the guys. No, they the mechanic was willing to look at the bus and agreed don’t work on Detroit Diesels, but they recommended with the probable diagnosis I got from James. Next another shop in town that still had an old timer mechanic morning the bus was in their shop and after tightening that knew the 2-strokes. multiple fuel stands and doing an oil change, we were ready to pick the bus up at noon. The mechanic shook his
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18 Bus Conversion Magazine by Bryan and Rhonda Larrabee head and said “It’s lucky you discovered this.” Doing the pre-trip inspection helped us again in the long run. By the Bryan and Rhonda way, the bill was $617. Larrabee live in Vancouver, We disappeared over the summit from California Canada. They have into Oregon telling ourselves “There’s nothing left to go been converted wrong”. bus owners since 2008, the same After we got home we submitted the $617 bill to year that their dog the second shop and they reimbursed us without any Zeke joined the problem. family. Bryan is If you would like the names of any of the companies the primary driver; I’ve referenced in the article, look up my profile on the however Rhonda BCM bulletin board under “Qayqayt” and e-mail us has her air brake endorsement as well and drives when privately. Bryan needs a break. Bryan retired from his career in Emergency Management in 2011 and still teaches Although this chapter of our story ends as we drive one or two days a month for the Justice Institute of over the summit into Oregon, the tachometer is not BC. Rhonda is the Chief of the Qayqayt Indian Band working again, foreshadowing more problems that we in New Westminster, BC and is very involved in that encountered before we got home. community advocating for educational opportunities and services for aboriginal children and families.
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November 2014 19 Rally News WESTERN GM COACH Arcadia 2015 Bus Rally INVITATIONAL BUS RALLY 15th Anniversary The Premier Bus Rally of the Year! January 15th thru 18th, 2015 Quartzite, Arizona Over 100 buses! Rally Fees Per Coach: $20.00 before Dec 31st. $25.00 after January 1st December 29-31, 2014 $5.00 per day Dry camping Early Arrivals on December 26 • Coffee & Donuts Friday, Saturday, and Sunday • Thursday evening meet and greet finger Turner Center food potluck 2250 NE Roan St. • Friday evening catered dinner addl. $15 per person. Must reserve by Jan 1st 2015 Arcadia, FL 34266 • Saturday evening potluck dinner Saturday opens the RV show in the big tent. For more info & registration visit: OPEN TO ALL MAKES / MODELS OF COACH www.ArcadiaRally.com CONVERSIONS AND CLASS-A MOTORHOMES Website will change constantly from now until rally. Mail Mike O’rourke 4865 N. Horseshoe Dr. “Like” us on Facebook! Payment Enoch, Utah 84721 To: Phone: 702·355·2601
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1958 GMC PD-4104 Bus Conversion Purchased in 1984 with a rebuilt engine and driven less than 18,000 Miles. • Detroit Diesel 671, w/New Head Gasket • Replaced Wiring • Air Brakes & Power Steering • Good Tires Two One Acre Lots • No Dents In Body • Good Paint & Chrome In Hereford, AZ • Onan 7.5 KW Generator (runs both A/C) Both lots at 5000 ft. elevation and • Two Roof Air Conditioners temperature never exceeds 90 degrees. • Furnace Ducted Throughout Coach Noted in a magazine, Sierra Vista, AZ, • 77-Gallon Fresh Water Tank (under bed) located 12 miles north of Herford, • Separate Black/Gray Waste Tanks, 75-Gal. Each was rated as most desirable weather • New Shurflo Water Pump year round. (Lot 1) One lot has RV pad • 2” High Density Blown-In Insulation • Converted RV Tinted Windows with 50A hookups including water, • Custom Window Treatments Including electric, phone, septic and a 10’ x 16’ Shadow Boxes With Indirect Lighting storage building with electric and deep • Bathroom With Sink & Medicine Chest freeze. (Lot 2) Other lot has septic only. • Large Rear Bedroom Allowed to have one house or mobile • Side-Closet with Mirrored Sliding Doors home on each lot. Horses and other • Full Neo-Angle Glass Shower animals are allowed. 315 feet adobe • Lead Glass Frosted Pocket Door To Bedroom wall with three 16’ wide gates, one walk • Lead Glass Bi-Fold Door To Bathroom thru 3’ x 8’ gate along roadside. Both • Kitchen Cabinets - Euro Design, Mahogany w/ lots have 9,600’ high Mountain view. Black Glass & Mirrored Black Glass Back Splash • Curved Counter Top w/ Storage Stream runs through both lots. Plenty • All Built In Cabinetry is Mahogany of room to build other structures on • Full Size Cast Iron Kitchen Sink both lots. Located in very nice neigh- • Magic Chef Oven/4-Burner Cooktop (New) borhood, average house $300,000 and • New Microwave up. • New Norcold 6.3 cu. ft. Refrigerator $149,00 for Both Lots $25,000 Call Cliff Call Lloyd or Doreen 520-559-3178 (775) 882-6225 [email protected] November 2014 27 Sterling Classifieds 1997 MCI 102D SL 1970 GMC PD-4108 1971 MCI MC-7 Conversion Coach
Impeccably Maintained, Series 60 Detroit Diesel. One of the finest conversions done by Custom Coach in Columbus, OH. 124,000 Miles. 20KW 40 Ft 8V71T Detroit Diesel w/Turbo, Powertech generator. Two 4,000 Watt 8V71 Engine rebuilt in March 2014. Manual 4‐speed tranny. Onan gas Inverters. 4 Central A/C & Heat Pumps Power steering, Allison V730 auto, Jake Generator (not hooked up), Microwave and over-the-road A/C. 200 gal Fresh Brake, good tires. 4-burner stove w/ Oven, Gas Stove/Oven, Beautiful Water, 200 gal Gray/black Tank and 198 gal Diesel Tank. Aqua Hot System. oven, microwave, fridge, bathroom w/ Cabinets, Shower/Tub, Stereos, Queen Jacuzzi Bath Tub/Shower. 3 Banks of shower, LCD TV/DVD, Double bed, A/C, Master bed, Bunk Beds, 10-Gallon Water Batteries. Residential side-by-side 100 gal. fresh water. Lots of extras & all Heater, Black/Grey/Fresh Water Tanks. refrigerator/freezer. GlenDening Power maintenance records. Aluminum chassis. All exterior light Cord Storage. Dual Feed HD Satellite More info at: lens covers are new but not installed System. Wired for Air Force One Braking www.TaylorNoonan.com/bus and are stored inside the bus. System. Canadian $7,900 $219,900 $38,000 ( Dollars ) Call or Email Karen Call Bryan at Contact Bruce 334-301-9921 [email protected] Located in 604-219-8430 [email protected] 330-666-5535 Arkon, OH Located in Vancouver BC Located in Montgomery, AL Parting Out 1966 GM 4107 Sr# 456
• Walk in door • Baggage bay doors • Compartment doors Click • Windshields • Fiberglass & aluminum panels Detroit Diesel 8V71 under windshields Engine with Allison HT740 • Radiator Transmission • Tailgate Removed from MCI-9 bus on September 5, • One bumper 2014. Both in excellent condition. Video of it • Steering box & related running in the bus is available on YouTube at http://youtu.be/Wo7HnJNRhdM. Approx. • 4106 flywheel & clutch 29,000 miles on engine rebuild. Rebuild • All side windows included 1 cylinder head, all pistons, sleeves, • Muffler w/dual outlets and rings, main bearings, oil cooler, timing gears, 1983 MC-9 Seated Coach tailpipes fuel pump, blower drive coupling, oil pump, TMC Crusader 2 • Windshield wiper arms thermostats and all applicable small parts. 47-passenger with DD 6V92, 20,000 Blower was overhauled. All rebuild invoices miles on out-of-frame engine rebuild, • No interior available for review. Motor and tranny has had 5-spd manual trans, over the road • Rear end housing with metallic routine maintenance and very well cared for. A/C, new tires. Very nice condition brakes We are located in northern Minnesota. Buyer inside and out for a coach of this • Front axle will be responsible for cost of shipping and year, VHS w/4 Monitors and CD. • Please call for other misc. parts. the arrangements to pick it up. References More photos available upon request. available. PRICE REDUCED! $8,000 OBO $6,500 O.B.O. Call Richard sold!Contact Carl at 218-759-9713 541-421-5262 another item listed [email protected] in520-604-2158 bcm has sold. [email protected] Located in Long Creek, OR 28 Bus Conversion Magazine Sterling Classifieds
1993 Eagle Model 15 1980 Prevost This Coach, originally built Foretravel 35’ by Pyramid Coach for 1976 MCI This rare 35’ Prevost was converted Country Music Star John 40 Foot Converted by Foretravel in 1980. The interior Michael Montgomery, is was completely redone and exterior just that…an Entertainers Motorhome repainted in 1996. Engine rebuilt in Coach. The 6V92 DDEC II with turbo was Never a Passenger Bus, Rust Free 2001 and now has 40,000 miles. Tires remanufactured in 2008 but it only has Stainless Steel Exterior, White, Black, are 90%. Diesel 10KW generator. Rear 22,000 miles on it. This beautiful Eagle Blue, Gold. Trailer Hitch, Back-up queen size bed with TV and sound Coach has a 23 KW Kubota Generator Camera, New Tires, Auxiliary Fuel Tank, system in bedroom. Walk thru bath. and a 3-Ton Central Heat & Air Unit. This Pull-out Tool Box in Bay, Bus A/C plus Kitchen has a microwave and 10 CF is your typical Entertainers Coach, which three additional A/C units, Heater and propane refrigerator w/ice maker. Table has the front lounge, galley, restroom, Central Vacuum, 50 Foot Shore Line, and chairs, front living area with leather bunk area, and rear lounge. It is currently Generator, Marine Toilet, Shower and sofa and leather swivel chair. White set up to sleep 9 with a 6 x 6 wardrobe Heater. All Electric, No Propane. Stove, oak cabinetry with Corian counters and closet. However, the closet can come Refrigerator and Microwave. Queen table top. Up front has Samsung 27” out and 3 more bunks can be put in to sleep 12. This is a Silver Eagle Coach so Size Bed, Couch Converts to Bed, flat screen TV w/remote speakers over Formica Interior, Indirect Lighting, sofa, Sony multi disc CD and MOTO-SAT you have “the ride” of the road. There are 4 bays or storage compartments under Cupboard Lights. Superb Condition, Satellite Dish. Non-smoker, No pets. Well Maintained. Always Stored Inside. Always garaged. the coach with almost 3 being open for your storage needs. Overall, this is a nice Owner is Highly Experienced Driver with coach with basically a new remanufac- 41 years as a Greyhound Bus Driver and $59,450 tured engine at 22,000 miles. Safety Superintendent. Call Lee $43,500 405-736-0193 $59,500 Call James 405-834-0680 Call Willis at 661-917-9058 [email protected] [email protected] Located in Blythe, CA Located in Chickasha, OK Lancaster, CA Fabulous 1990 Liberty Prevost Bus Conversion!
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GMC MCI Guaranteed Classified Ads! 1988 MCI 102 - 8V92T Allison Do you have a bus conversion, bus shell, tour bus, almost automatic transmission, finished bus, or any other kind of bus to sell? We can help you turbo engine, rebuilt sell your bus, bus supplies, and parts or services. Advertise for recently 313,700 miles, three months – at the end of that time, if your item(s) have not two-stroke, 49 seats, runs great sold, we will run your ad again for up to three months for free. located in: Sidney, Montana Call Willie @ 701-460-0930 STANDARD CLASSIFIED ADS [email protected] $12,000 $10 for each 50 words per month. Photo is an additional $5. Or run your ad for three months for $25 for 50 words a month 1973 GM PD-4905 40’ - 318- plus $10 for a photo. 8V71 Detroit engine automatic You can sell it in STERLING CLASSIFIED ADS: Regular (1/6 page) Up to 100 transmission, Shepard power words and two photos steering, old conversion, asking BCM Classifieds! $18,000, located in Oklahoma For as little $25 per month or $60 for three months City, Call Al at 405-514-8419 As $5/month! STERLING CLASSIFIED ADS: Large (1/3 page) Call 657-221-0432. Up to 200 words and three photos. $50 for one month, $120 WANTED for three months Information Wanted STERLING CLASSIFIED ADS: Extra Large (1/2 page) Up to ’53 - ’60 PD 4104s - PARTS 300 words and four photos. $75 per month or $180 for three I am searching for all the surviving months. PD 4104s in the world. From 1953- Sterling Classified Ads are for Bus or RV sales only and must 1960 5,065 coaches were made. be prepaid. No refunds for early withdrawal. All ads and Where are they now? Yes, some cancellations must be received by the 15th, two months prior were scrapped. Does anyone to publication. have those serial numbers? I am tracking the coaches by serial GM Differential For Sale $1,500 - As an ADDED bonus, when you place a Sterling Classified Ad number and location; city and Differential fits GM Bus Models in our magazine, we will also place your ad on our website that state. I am looking for any and all 4106, 4107, 4108, and 4905. The gets close to 1 Million page views per month. information on these coaches: ratio is 4-3/8 and the gears are 940. MOVE THAT BUS! whether a scrapped RV or other Low mileage on new gears and Email your ad and photos to [email protected]. Or mail conversion or still a bus. I can bearings. 4106 Clutch Assy with your completed ad and photos to Bus Conversion Magazine, account for 300 so far. List will be flywheel like new condition $500. posted online. Contact Jon Usle Located in Herford, AZ Attn: Classified Ads. 9852 Katella Ave Ste 361, Anaheim, CA 92804. You can also call us at 657-221-0432. [email protected] or 760-272-4081 Call Cliff at 520-559-3178 AZ 30 Bus Conversion Magazine November 2014 31 32 Bus Conversion Magazine November 2014 Digital Edition Bonus Content Exclusively Available in the BCM Digital Edition
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Doing a little body work. Engine in, rear primed. (generator covered in yellow on left) November 2014 37 Bus Chat: Eagle Air Pressure Is Low
This month’s Bus Chat is a topic on the Bus Conversion Magazine Online Discussion Forum regarding a 1980 Eagle Model 10 that us having trouble airing up past 75-80 PSI. To read the rest of the story, you can visit the discussion at: www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=28182
Post by: ttrstudios Post by: eagle19952 Hello all, I am a new bus owner. Just purchased a 1980 It seems lately most of these problems are air dryer Silver Eagle Model 10 bus from a church in OK. I have related. Do you have one, and is it in the vicinity of the searched and searched online as well as here as to what AC compressor bay on the curb side? to look for when buying a bus to convert. I thought I did my homework. The bus looked and drove great! However I knew there were a few things I was looking at that Post by: ttrstudios needed to be fixed before actually getting the bus home which involved a 7 hour trip to southwest Arkansas. There is one on the curb side. So I took it to a shop to have the obviously leaking Nope! Sorry. It’s on the driver’s side. wheel seal replaced, and had them change the brakes and a spring kit as well. I told them I would pick it back up the next day. Now, let me back up 2 hours. I drove this bus Post by: eagle19952 and was watching everything like a hawk! Oil pressure was GREAT! Air pressure up and down a little from 120 Service it or temporarily bypass it in the quest for PSI. Not bad. Long story short it made the 2 hour trip just diagnostic expedience. fine. I go to pick it up the next day and now.... When you manually drain the air tanks, what comes They told me that it wouldn’t air up past 80 psi after out? BTW, there are 5 tanks. only changing the seal and brakes. So I got in it and bled the air off with the brake pedal. Watched it build back up to 75 to 80 psi and stop. So we thought must be the Post by: ttrstudios governor. Changed it and no change. We shut it down to listen for air leaks and there are not many at all. Now Water was the only thing to come out of the tanks the funny part is this: the air dryer would pop off at 80 that I found. We did bypass the dryer and ended with the psi before we changed the governor and I thought the same result. As far as there being 5 air tanks, I know of 3. gauge must be wrong. That was changed and the same One above the steering axle, one under the driver seat thing happens. Sometimes the brakes will release but (outside) and one above the rear drive axle. Where are the most of the time they won’t because as soon as you other two? release the brakes and push the pedal, the buzzer goes off indicating low air. I am lost! I thought the governor is what “told” the Post by: mung dryer when to pop off? I have searched this forum over and found a few things that were a close relation but Have you verified the pressure using a separate not identical. Anyway, I have a few questions please if gauge? Are you 100% sure they didn’t mess with you don’t mind helping me out as the bus is stuck in Fort anything else? Seems very odd that you had good Smith, Arkansas and I live 5 hours south. pressure until they changed parts out. 1. What am I missing? 2. How many air tanks are on the bus as I have only Post by: John316 found 3? Sounds familiar. I speak from my experience with 3. If the compressor is bad would it build up to 80psi? our MCI coach. The air gauge is read from the main brake application tank. However, the low air buzzer (on 4. Does anyone want to buy a bus? Just kidding. ours) is located on the accessory system tank. When Please help! ours wouldn’t air up, like you describe, it was a pressure protection valve. It would open at 80, and close below 38 Bus Conversion Magazine 80. Basically it made sure that if the pressure fell below that set up. A relief valve does not go bad that often but 80, that the brakes would get all of the air. And when the that is where I would start. pressure was working back up to 80, that the brake tanks would get air first. So I would start looking elsewhere. Eagle guys will Post by: Rick 74 MC-8 help out, I am sure. However, I would look for a pressure Will it air with shop air? protection valve somewhere. Another thing. You are totally confident that the air compressor is working, correct? We had a situation where Post by: ttrstudios the unloaders were getting stuck. It would air up some, but not all the way, and sometimes the dryer would Thank you so much for all of the input. I’m sorry that continually purge. Something else to poke at, but it I am replying late. Been working on the bus. We have not doesn’t sound like your problem. fixed the problem. It’s working now. All we did was air it up with shop air and it’s been working like it should. We’ve bled it down about 10-15 times and it’s aired up ever since. Post by: luvrbus My guess is there was a piece of trash somewhere. That is a dual air system with 2 tanks at the rear and Problem is it’s still in there somewhere. So I’m sure this most have a wet tank mounted on the rear axle housing will happen again at some point. We are going to try and with one up front for the front brakes and one auxiliary make the 6 hour trip home. We will see what happens. tank above the spare tire compartment for wipers and air There is more to come on this adventure. The conversion horn. will start as soon as it’s home. Thanks everyone for the You can see the pressure protection valve at the input. rear in the tank on the driver’s side. Sure sounds as if the pressure protection valve is the problem. There should be a dual read gauge or two gauges so you can read both Post by: akroyaleagle systems. I’m always amazed how much stuff gets fixed with Then again you are working on an Eagle. No two are the “stare at it” method! Hope you make it home OK. alike especially on the 80 model 10. A lot of stuff was Everyone I know advises steer away from church buses. carried over from the 05 model. The bus seems like a good idea but no one ever ensures the maintenance is performed. When you get it home, service everything. There is help here on this board and Post by: eagle19952 the Silver Eagle Owner’s facebook page. I doubt there is anything someone has not seen. Typically there are between 4-5 check valves, it would appear, on the dual system air gauge. If both gauges are not passing 80 PSI, it would seem that the main check Post by: ttrstudios valve is the culprit. It is located between the compressor and the wet tank a 3/4 inch pipe thread size. What exactly do you mean by “service everything”? We did an oil change and filters, fuel filters, air filter Additionally there are ½ inch ones located at the looked ok, checked rear end and transmission. Added service reservoir, the park brake reservoir, and one they hub oil where needed and adjusted all brakes. call the outside service line, which I assume is the service brake line. There is also a 1/4 inch check valve at the park Is there something on a bus that needs attention brake tank. Things are not always as they appear. more than, let’s say an 18 wheeler? I run an oil field trucking company so I’ve done my share of working on them but this bus is TOTALLY different. Post by: rusty So if I am missing something other than greasing it I would check the pressure relief valve. That bus please let me know. might have one that is not part of the dryer. My 05 had
November 2014 39 Bus Chat: Eagle Air Pressure Is Low
Post by: akroyaleagle Steering column upper bearing (lube) Sounds like you are on the right track. 50,000 Miles: Valve clearances and injector timing (set) Don’t forget to lube all the zerks. There’s around 100 of them. Here’s a guide, I made it for my use, It is more 60,000 Miles: Engine and transmission mounting stringent than Eagle recommends in some areas. Feel free bolts (check) to adapt it to your records if you want. 75,000 Miles:Fan bearing hub (clean,inspect,repack) You might also get oil analysis for the engine. Transmission also if it’s automatic. 100,000 Miles: Replace belts MILEAGE______DATE______Blower bypass valve (clean) 2000 Miles: Slack adjusters (manual) Airbox check valves (clean) 6,000 Miles: Chassis lube Replace Power Steering Filter Fan drive bearings and idlers 240,000 Miles: Replace thermostats Propshafts ANNUALLY Clean crankcase breather Fan belts (check and adjust) GENERATOR Batteries (clean and tighten) 100HRS: Change Oil Throttle controls lube] 200HRS: Change Oil Filter 10,000 Miles: Engine oil and filter (change) (DD 400HRS: Change Fuel Filter recommends 15,000 mi) 600HRS: Change Air Filter (Or Annually) <45PSI Fuel filters (replace)
Alternator belt tension (check) Post by: ttrstudios 15,000 Miles: Air cleaner (clean element) I appreciate that guide. I will surely use that. I know Coolant filter (change) it’s a bit off topic but I have a speed question. The speedometer shows a “red line” of 55 mph. So what is 20,000 Miles: Exhaust manifold bolts (check an acceptable speed for this bus with a 5 speed manual tightness) transmission? There is no tachometer on this bus so I’m not sure what the rpm’s are. Air compressor mounting bolts (check tightness) Engine air emergency shutdown (check) Post by: eagle19952 24,000 Miles: Engine oil cooler (check) In March 1974, all states adopted the 55 mph national Radiator hoses (check) maximum speed limit. Concerns about fuel availability and costs faded, however, and Congress in 1987 allowed 30,000 Miles: Differential (change oil) states to increase speed limits on rural interstates to 65 Wheel bearings (change oil) mph. The National Highway System Designation Act of 1995 repealed the maximum speed limit, allowing states Engine airbox drain (check) to set their own limits for the first time since 1974. Many states quickly moved to raise speed limits on both rural 36,000 Miles: Transmission (change filter) and urban interstates and limited access roads. Miter box (change oil) 40 Bus Conversion Magazine Post by: luvrbus Post by: ttrstudios It will be a 3:36 or 3:73 rear gear and the 5 speed if Well the bus made it home just fine. No problems at the original was a direct 1:1, 65 mph should be a good all. I stopped for fuel and bled the brakes down just to cruising speed. see if it would air back up and it did like it should. I guess I’ll fix it when it happens again. Anyway, the conversion starts! Post by: akroyaleagle Virtually all the 3.73 rear ends will do 78 mph top speed with auto and 24.5 tires. I would counsel 1950- 2000 rpm and take what that gives you, about what Clifford said.
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November 2014 45 List of Available BCM Print Edition Back Issues With Titles of Primary Articles
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November 1997 January 2000 Get Balanced, Designing The Balance energy System Air Filters: The Key To Engine Longevity, The Part 25, 1951 GMC PGA3301, Get Tanked, Get Centered Magic 1978 Eagle 05 Bus, Eagle 15, The Joys Of Fire Extinguishers, A Tried And True Model MCI-5, Choosing January 1999 The Right Tire, Dual Alternators, Tires, Building Up A Drivers - Up Eagle, Air Bag Leveling Weight And Your Safety System, Birthing Moon Metal Muther, Wer Hom - 1977 AM General, The Making of a Dinette, Electrical Shorts: A February 2000 Coaching Christmas Safety Labels, Material Waters When Selecting POU/ POE Filters, 12/24 Volt Distribution System February 1999 Shell Review, The Rebirth Of A Scenic Cruiser, At April 2000 Home In A GMC 4905, Electrical Shorts: Picking A Power A 1975 MCI-8 Canadian Beauty, Installing A Headliner, Plant Survivalist Finds Unique Use For Old School Bus, MCI 102C3, Designing The Gray Water System, 34 Fire Facts March 1999 That Can Save Your Life, Hot Water Heater Disconnect Get Out Of Clovis By Sundown, Trials And Tribulations Of Owning A 1961 Marmon – Herrington, Albert The May 2000 Cooks Family 4905, Repowering a 4106 The Basics Of Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning, Decorating Your Coach Interior, Water June 1999 Softening, The Basics for Towing Safely, Security Systems Plumbing, Insulation, Idling Diesel Engines Cost Offer Peace Of Mind Money, 2000 H3 - 45 Prevost, Shell Review: Eagle Model 10 Suburban, Electrical Shorts (120 VAC Revisited) June 2000 1967 Eagle 01, Building A Wire Chase And Dealing August 1999 With Pre-Owned Conversion Wiring, 28 Driving Tips You The Joys Of Busing, Rving To Alaska On Top Of The Shouldn’t Drive Off Without World Highway, Building A Multi - Position Co - Pilot Seat Assembly, Angola Coach & The Snow Castle 2000 45’ July 2000 Prevost H345, My Grandparents Eagle 5, For The Love Of Air Basics 101, Building Drains And Vents, 1963 Gillig Buses 501, Eagles: Some Pros And Cons, Weathering The Storms On The Road September 1999 The Joys Of Taking Time Out For Sight Seeing, A Safer August 2000 Attitude, The Ultimate GMC 4905 Party Bus, MCI-6 Super Foam Insulation For Bus Conversions, Water Service Cruiser, Buses And Sound Systems Connection, Converting A Bus? Start Here and There, Stripping the Coach Interior October 1999 A Taste Of Cajun, The First 48 Hours as A Bus Owner, September 2000 Driving Is A Full Time Job, The Bus Nut Craze Or Should I A Colorful Experience, Demand System, The Conversion Say Crazy For A GMC 4905A, MCI-7 Of Our MCI-5C, How To Cool A Hot Bus On A Hot Day, Plastic Laminates (A Good Product For The Money), Road November 1999 Rage (The Newest Danger On Roadways) Dealing with Insurance after a Fire, Fresh Water Tubing, There’s nothing like a GMC 4107 When You Want October 2000 a Motor home, The Prevost Prestige: Where It All Started, Our 1975 GMC 4905A, Our 1976 Eagle 05, Pressurized Four Decades of Conversion Water Systems, The MCI 102 Series Are Your Lifestyle & Investment Properly Protected?
46 Bus Conversion Magazine List of Available BCM Back Issues With Titles of Primary Articles November 2000 November 2001 This Old Bus : Our 1975 GMC 4905A, Water Be Flexible, A Cooling Shower, More Than a Five-Year Treatments, Detroit Diesel : 71, Series 92 , Series 60, Mission (1972 Eagle Model 05 “Enterprise”), Eagle Owners Hammering It Home, Water ,Water , Kool Aid Please, Down Under, Waste System Accessories, Re-Selling your Installing A Dash Fresh Air System, A Half - Century Conversion, An Ounce of Maintenance, Mobile Internet Passion For Buses, Sharing The Road With Truckers Access
December 2000 December 2001 History of the Eagle Motor Coach, Water Filters, an Patriotic Offerings, Now is the Time to Winterize, Oldie But Goodie Some Notes On the GMC PD 4106 Alternative Plumbing Systems, Every Saga Has a (1952-1960), Handy Tips for Windshield Chips Beginning, Coming Ashore to Tour the Countryside (Former Boat Builders Use Their Expertise to Convert a January 2001 1965 Bluebird School Bus) Building a Bus Barn, Water Treatments Systems, Fighting Small Fires February 2002 Our Flying Bus Part One, Transmission Joys, Selecting February 2001 Your Stove, Designing a Wind Deflector, All it Takes Are This Old Bus - GMC 4905A, The Wounded Eagle, Some Helping Hands (Working Together to Transform a Fresh Water Systems, Building is In our Blood, Searching 1959 GM PD 4104), Driving Safely After Dark, Recessed for a Weekend Warrior, Part II: The Road to Health, Slide Taillight Assembly Replacement (A Project Instigated by Prevention and Recovery, A Weighty Subject Body Shell Rust)
March 2001 March 2002 Freeze Protection, Part 3: The Road to Health, Winter Our Flying Bus Part 2, Musically, We Roll Along, LP of No Contents, What You Need to Know to Tow Stove Operation, Traveling with Propane, Art, Music & “A House that Has Everything” (Making a ‘55 Flxible VL 100 April 2001 Roadworthy or Seaworthy) How to Get Wired, The Man Who Could Have Any Bus (The ABC’s of This ‘79 Eagle 05), Security on the Open April 2002 Road Our Flying Bus, Part 3, LP Stove Installation, and Camping Safety: It’s Up to You June 2001 Showers, Water System Updates, The Road to Health, June 2002 Part V: The Repower Our Flying Bus - Part 4, Safety by Design - Part 1, Holly weird, LP Stove Maintenance, An Emergency Fire July 2001 Plan that Can Save Your Life, A Little Interior Goes a Long Baja 101, Toilets, Building your Bus on a Budget Way (Custom Converting a 1958 GM PD 4104), Buses and Friendships August 2001 Designer of World Class Motor coaches, Out of Fuel, August 2002 Sewage, The VanHool T800 Series, Dream catcher (The Our Flying Bus(Part 5: Painting), Appliances for Bus Story of the Allred’s 1960 GMC 4104), Is This the World’s Conversions, Fun in the Sun: Heading for the Dunes in a Cheapest Motorized Transportation, Food Preparation 1979 MCI-5C, LP Furnaces, Security Systems and Storage September 2002 October 2001 Preparing to Convert, Installing a Ready Brake, Re-Tiring in Oregon, Tale From the Awesome Outback, Building the Eagle’s Nest (Converting a 1979 Bluebird), Black Water Disposal, This Prevost XL Lacks for Naught, 60 Securing Children in Your Bus MPH at 60 Feet in 60 Minutes Project, Give It a Brake! October 2002 Chassis and Floor Rebuild, Floor Plan Layout, Converting our 1970MCI-7, The Toad Connection November 2014 47 List of Available BCM Back Issues With Titles of Primary Articles October 2004 - Living & Dining Areas, Plumbing Your Bus, Tales from a Satellite TV Systems: Part III (Antennas), Hydrogen- Novice Bus Owner Fueled Buses (The Future of Busing), The “Jake” Brake (Ever Wish You Had Some Extra Braking Power?) September 2005
November 2004 Cabinetmaking for Bus Converters: Part III, Now is the Flooring Materials, A Unique Entertainers Coach, Time to Winterize, Busing on My Mind, Floor Plans - The Planning a Coach with CAD Software, Flxibles Rambling Kitchen, The VanHool T800 Series, Electrical Wiring, A On, Bus Conversions from the Inside & Out, 1976 GMC Labor of Love - 1968 MCI MC-7 City Bus Gets a Makeover, Living La Vida Buena October 2005 January 2005 Floor Plans: The Bath, The Odyssey, 1982 Prevost 1984 Eagle Model 10 (“Alotta”), A Graphic Experience, Marathon, Heating and Air Conditioning, What You Need Mt. Poodle, RTV Distribution Hardware, MCI 102 C3, The to Know to Tow Under bay Sleeping Compartment November 2005 February 2005 Floor Plans: The Bedroom, The Odyssey, 1982 Eagle 1991 Blue Bird (Cabin Fever), Marvelous Minnesota, Model 10, Installing a Headliner, a Bus Designer’s Riff Stripping the Bus December 2005 March 2005 Floor Plans: Shell Modifications, 1982 MCI MC-9. The Finger Lakes are Gorgeous, TV Distribution Systems, Alarm Systems for Buses/Motorhomes, “Our February 2006 Hilton”, A Bus for All Seasons, Window Removal & 1970 GMC 4905, Key Weird, A Summer Of Moosn Fun Skinning March 2006 April 2005 1984 NeoPlan Spaceliner Floor Plans – Heating, The Bus Free or Die!, Ceilings - A Different Approach, Our Eagle: Pro’s and Con’s Dreams Come True, Busin’ 2005, A Bus Newbie: Part II, Roof Caps, The Twelve Year Journey April 2006 Slide Prevention and Recovery, 1978 Eagle 03, May 2005 Building a BusBarn, Floor Plans: Air Conditioning, The Man Tanks for Your Bus, Moose less in Maine, Safer 120-Volt in Black’s Tour Bus Restoration Wiring, Load Centers, Insulation, The Twelve Year Journey Continues, Our “Odyssey” 1985 NeoPlan May 2006 sKOOLies: They’re Not Just for Hippies, Installing a June 2005 Headliner, Floor plans: Electrical Layouts, 1990 Prevost Le Propane for Bus Nuts, Floor Plans - The Basics, Heavy Mirage XL, Stripping the Coach Interior Towing - Safely, The Bluegrass Special, Do-it-Yourself Bus Polishing, No Place Like Home: 1963 GM 4106, Bus Fever July 2006 From Nova Scotia Building a 3-Dimensional Floor Plan, The Dentist Comes To You, Busing in the Buff, 1971 MCI MC-7 July 2005 Challenger Cabinetmaking for Bus Converters: Part I, Nothin’ Could Be Finer Than to Bus in Carolina: Part I, Floor Plans October 2006 - Driving & Riding Area, A Bus Converter’s Work is Never The Crown Super Coach, The Floor Plan Layout, Scania Done, Interior Skinning, Electric Self Driver Minibuses, At the End of the Stick … The “Green Carrot”, Busing in the Biggest Little City, Floor August 2005 Plans: Equipment Review Cabinetmaking for Bus Converters: Part II, Nothin’ Could Be Finer Than to Bus in Carolina: Part II, Floor Plans
48 Bus Conversion Magazine List of Available BCM Back Issues With Titles of Primary Articles November 2006 Stop (for Now), Seminars: Toilets, Rid the Rust With Less Systems Analysis: Window and Window Treatments, Fuss, Electrical Reliability California Dreamin’ and Busin’, This Prevost XLs Not So Extreme Makeover, What Do the Springs Do On An Air November 2008 Brake System, Coming Ashore to Tour the Countryside The Red Rover, Bus Nut for Life, Air Suspension Leveling, Mixing Water and Gas, Reliability, Traveling on a February 2007 Budget, He Lives in a Garbage Truck Tow-Car Fun Times, The History of Van Hool: Part I, America’s Last (Bus) Frontier: Part II, Systems Analysis: January 2009 Lighting Options, The Dream of my Own Coach! I Get Stupid Part 2 (How I clipped a sign and cracked my curb side mirror), An Aquarium on Wheels, It’s 5 March 2007 O’clock Somewhere, A Dream Fulfilled, Fire Truck: Road No Fuelin’ Around, Designing the Balanced Energy Ready, The Power of Windows System, The History of Van Hool: Part I, America’s Last ‘Bus’ Frontier: It’s Raining’ Buses, Our 1977 GM 4905A February 2009 ‘Dream Catcher’, Systems Analysis: Ventilation, Generator The Evolution of a Bus Driver, Bus Conversions on Fuel Change a Shoe String Budget, Steppin’ Out: A Stairs How To, I Get Stupid Part 3 (My Wife Has To Play Traffic Control), April 2007 Tragedy, Help and Hope, Wintering in Quartzsite Time to Re-Tire, Designing the Balanced Energy System, The Seal You Never Want to See, The Eagle Soars March 2009 Again in Europe, Systems Analysis: Ventilation Options, I Get Stupid Part 4 (I finally learn to think a bit Generator Fuel Change straighter), Toad Protection (Low Cost Rock Guard), Bus to Trailer Toad Wiring, May 2007 Fascinating Fastener Facts, Introduction: Part I, May 2009 Designing the Balanced Energy System: Part III, 102 VAC- Now What? The First Trip Home, Bonding With Dave System Safety (Adhesives), Filling the Shell (Cabinetry), The Orange Blossom Special ll, Life of a Love Bus July 2007 Fascinating Fastener Facts: Part III, Designing June 2009 the Balanced Energy System: Part IV, 120 VAC Source Bart and Judy’s Personal Adventure Vehicle, LCD Connections or Plasma, Bonding with Dave (Elastics, Sika, more), Troublesome Tow bar August 2007 Fascinating Fastener Facts (Part IV), Designing the July 2009 Balanced Energy System, 120-VAC Distribution, Wayne’s Keeping It In The Family, Embark With Your Dog This ‘Woody’ Bus A Blast From the Past Returns Summer, Watch Out For UFO’s, Traveling Along The North West Coast November 2007 Cabinetry for the Bus Converter: Part I, Designing the August 2009 Balanced Energy System: Part VIII, Safety Considerations, Bus Bling! Stainless Steel Polishing, Converting a Installing an Air Throttle Bus Radiator Fill System to Automotive Components, Recreational Vehicle Fire Safety December 2007 Cabinetry for the Bus Converter: Woods, Designing September 2009 the Balanced Energy System: Part IX, Antenna-Up Alarm Lessons Learned: A Heart-Braking Tale, Electric Wiper Motors and Wet Arm Washers, Antifreeze Requirements September 2008 for Detroit Diesel and Other Heavy Duty Diesel Engines, Ebus: Is Electric the Future, ATM’s Thieves Cash Cow, This Should Have Been Easy Flooring A Bus with 3 Lives And Counting, Fueling a Debate, Last
November 2014 49 List of Available BCM Back Issues With Titles of Primary Articles
October 2009 August 2010 Eagle Suspension and Alignment Procedure, A On a Mission, Do It Yourself Alternative Fuel - WVO, Quieter Generator for the Orange Blossom Special II, Part 1 - Introduction & WVO Collection, Choosing a Toilet, Thoughts About Engine Conversions or Re-Power Options Adventures in Bus Ownership, HD TV and You, Let’s Do An for Buses Air Brake Test
November 2009 September 2010 Part 2: Eagle Suspension and Alignment Procedure, Urge Part 3: The End of the Engine, Do It Yourself Easy Low Cost Magazine Rack, Let There Be Light, Part 2: Alternative Fuel 2: Building a Processor, Motor Coach Pre- Thoughts about Engine Conversions or Re-Power Options trip Inspection Step 2: The Engine Compartment, Fresh for Buses, Lobsters and Lighthouses Water Schematic
December 2009 October 2010 Part 3: Thoughts About Engine Conversions or Re- “The Emerald Dream”, Detector Systems That Can Power Options for Buses, Crack! Windshield Repair, The Save Your Life, Wood Joining Techniques for Classy Odyssey, Rural and Rustic Cabinets, How to Fix an Eagle With a Weak Wing, Inspection of the Interior, Do It Yourself Alternative, January 2010 Building a Slide out You’ve Got To Be a Part of It, Bus Designer Q & A, CMI Lights the Road November 2010 Eleven Feet Tall and Bullet Proof, More Simple February 2010 Solutions, Replacing Air Wipers With Electric, Microsoft Step by Step, Hosting Your Own Bus Rally, The Streets and Trips, Inspection of the Interior 2, Installing Misadventures of Bryan, Rhonda, and Zeke, Building Your Classy Cabinets Own Custom Holding Tank, Bus Designer Q & A December 2010 March 2010 More Misadventures With Bryan , Rhonda , And The Foothills Flyer, Towing Safety connection Zeke (Rodeos And Bus’n USA), Heating a Bus, Fire Safety, Hardware, Replacing OEM Air Bags with Rolling Lobe, Photo Journal (A New Floor For An 05XLII-DS), Building Building a Bus Barn, Detecting Sneaky Leaks, House Calls a Bed Slide Out, Shore Power Outlets, General Exterior Inspection April 2010 The Best in the Bus, What a Tough Decision! Buying January 2011 Your First Bus, House Battery Systems: 12 volts or 24, Why Paradise by the Dashboard LED, Converters, Inverters, Not an RTS, Geocaching and Chargers, Wheels and Tires
May 2010 February 2011 Dedicated to Twenty-Five Years of Busing, Building Making It Easier To Service The Air Dryer, Double a One Piece Door, Defensive Thinking, Snapshots from Stack, First Timers Perspective, Buses - They Leak Thailand March 2011 June 2010 Engine Reconditioning, A Bus Barn With Benefits, Full Steam Ahead…The Steamin’ Eagle, Steam Keeping Inverters Cool, Fundamentals Of Bus Safety, Bending, Computers On The Road, you Do A Hoodoo? Biodiesel Fuel (Bryce Canyon National Park) May 2011 July 2010 From Transit To Community Emergency Response The Making of a Dream, Being the King of your Motor Vehicle, Electrical Relays 101, Throwing Nothing Away coach, A Valve For Any Occasion, The making of a Door Hinge
50 Bus Conversion Magazine List of Available BCM Back Issues With Titles of Primary Articles
June 2011 August 2013 Tools For Classy Cabinets, Solar Battery Charging Install a Composting Toilet in Your Bus, Why Convert a System, The Importance Of PM, Slide Out Support Dina? Part Two, Build a Step Cover/Footrest
October 2012 September 2013 Installing A Generator In An MCI, The Cruiser, The $50 Welding, Gardening at 60 MPH, Build a Generator Bus Makeover, How it All Started, From Boat to Bus and Slide Out, North to Alaska, The Angel Bus Back October 2013 November 2012 King of Your Motor Coach, Driver/Passenger Air A Bus Barn with Benefits, Road Wars [California vs. Deflectors, Back to the Bricks Rally, Bus History (School Arizona], Work Camping, Euro Disco Neoplan Spaceliner, Buses) How to Convert a Bus in to a Motorhome November 2013 December 2012 1979 MCI 5C Conversion, MCI-8 History, Life on the The Search for the Technomadia Zephyr, Prevost Road, It’s 5 O’clock Somewhere, Working with Wood Le Mirage Review, No A/C on a Hot Summer Day, Homemade Fuel Gauge, Land Of Fire (Yellowstone), How December 2013 to Convert a Bus in to a Motor Home The Auxiliary Air System, World War II Buses, Walk Around Inspection January 2013 Preventing an Overheat Engine Shutdown, Integral January 2014 Power Steering, Fire Safety, My First Bus, cozy Wood Heat The Best of Both Worlds - GLAMARAMA13 Rally, for bus Conversions, The Price of My Dream Converting a Model 10 Eagle, Planning Your Cabinets, Building a Rolling Scaffold, Balance Masters Wins 5-Year February 2013 Contract for Government Vehicles Prevost H3-40 Conversion, Unforgettable Breakdown, Engine Cooking, Installing an Air Throttle February 2014 The Arcadia Rally 2014, Wi-Fi Ranger Go & Booster March 2013 Install, Inspection of the Interior Part 2, Rust and Old When You Have An All Electric Coach All of Your Buses, Upgrade MC-8 Tail Lights, LED Lighting for Bus Electric Needs to Work, To Convert or Just Dream, Where I Conversions Take My Bus, An Off Grind Paradise on Wheels March 2014 April 2013 Upgrading Bus Headlights, Simple Fix For Leaking “Belly Bomb” with “Wazoo Mobile”, Travel: Pike’s Peak, MCI Air Suspension, Easy Access Wiring & Plumbing Arcadia Rally, Foam Insulation Channels, Call of the Eagle, 2nd Annual Dam Rally, Rebuilding a Bus From The Tires UP, Drawer Guides May 2013 Pouring Rent in the Tank, Soundproofing the House, April 2014 My Log Cabin Bachelor Bus Decision Time! Planning Your Conversion, Overhead Drilling Made Easier, Converting the GMC/TMC RTS, June 2013 Iron Horse - Wild West Elegance - Model 10 Eagle, Big Blue Bear Lake, Bus History Project, The $300 Paint Bay Floor Shoreline/Water Access Port, Fuel Efficiency Job Considerations
July 2013 May 2014 Cooling Systems, Installing Ducted Roof Air, Building Your Own Custom Holding Tanks, Floor Plan Swapping Out a Rear End, Genset Air Bag Plumbing Design, Cool Engineering in an MC-8, A Labor of Flxible Love
November 2014 51 List of Available BCM Back Issues With Titles of Primary Articles June 2014 Repairing the Generator Exhaust Pipe, The LED doctor – Replace fixtures, Cool Cruiser, A Flxible Hobby FACT #1: Collectively bus conversion owners spend several million July 2014 dollars per year on their buses. Why Do I Need A Pyrometer?, The LED Doctor - How Many Lumens Do I Need? Murphy’s First Law of Busin’, FACT #2: BCM is the only Prevost XL Gone Country, You Bought a What?, Easy Way to Connect Generator To Fuel Tank periodical publication specifically for bus conversion enthusiasts. August 2014 Let’s Do An Air Brake Test, The LED Doctor - What If you have something bus related to About My 24V Lighting? My Pursuit Of the Elusive PD- 4104, Window Repair - I Can See Clearly Now sell, you should advertise it in BCM!
September 2014 Classifieds ads start for as Loudonville 2014 Flxible Rally, The LED Doctor - Make little as $5 per month! Your Own LED Fixtures, Fuel System Care During Long Term Parking, A Bus From The Land Down Under, How I Raised the Roof On My MC-5, Building Cabinets, Sun Frost Call 657-221-0432 to Refrigerators - Electric vs. Propane, A Converted Double- get your ad listed. Decker Bus with a Car Garage
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