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DAILY HANSARD 17 November 2020 DAILY YOUR VOICE IN PARLIAMENT THETHE SECOND FIRST MEETING MEETING OF THE O FSECOND THE FIFTH SESSION SESSION OF OF THETHE ELEVEN TWELFTHT HPARLIAMENT PARLIAMENT TUESDAY 17 NOVEMBER 2020 ENGLISHMIXED VERSION VERSION HANSARDHANSARD NO: NO. 200 193 DISCLAIMER Unocial Hansard This transcript of Parliamentary proceedings is an unocial version of the Hansard and may contain inaccuracies. It is hereby published for general purposes only. The nal edited version of the Hansard will be published when available and can be obtained from the Assistant Clerk (Editorial). THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East) Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of the Opposition) Maun West Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. (Acting Opposition Whip) Shoshong Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. Ghanzi South Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE FIRST MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT TUESDAY 17 NOVEMBER, 2020 CONTENTS PAGE (S) QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER..........................................................................................................19-25 SPEAKER’S REMARKS ...................................................................................................................................1 Response To The President’s Speech Motion (Resumed Debate)................................................................................................................1-18, 26-52 TABLING OF PAPER Botswana Savings Bank Audited Financial Statements for Financial Year Ended 31st March, 2019..........................................................................................................26 Tuesday 17th November, 2020 RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT’S SPEECH Motion (Resumed Debate) Tuesday 17th November, 2020. than for you to tell me that, it cannot be right, when I want to say something. We cannot work like that, you THE ASSEMBLY met at 11:00 a.m. are the person who is in charge of… (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) MR SPEAKER: Honourable Boko! If you do not want P R A Y E R S to say what your procedure is, sit down. * * * * MR BOKO: Procedure. Thank you, now let me go to the procedure. Mr Speaker, you are the one who SPEAKER’S REMARKS leads the proceedings of this House, The President stated in his address that Parliament proceedings will MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Order! Order! be broadcasted on Botswana television and radio Honourable Members, good morning. Let us start the Botswana. We are surprised Mr Speaker, it cannot be business of today with a Motion. a coincidence that sometimes when it is discovered MR MOSWAANE: Procedure. Mr Speaker, I wanted to that we are attacking Members of Domkrag (Botswana know whether it is procedural for the live broadcasting Democratic Party) or raising issues, those proceedings of Parliament proceedings to be selective? We did not are not broadcasted on television for Batswana to see, see the debates of our Members of Parliament namely yet they were promised that they will see the Parliament Honourable Reatile and Honourable Yandani Boko. I proceedings , it cannot be right. That is the untidiness do not know whether the television was having some that is done by the leaders. You Mr Speaker, are the technical problems or what? So I wanted to know one who leads the proceedings of this House, so you whether it is according to procedure for the proceedings should put things in order. I am not supposed to go to of some Honourable to be broadcasted on television your office to tell you in private that there is untidiness while others are not? Thank you. that happened on Botswana Television (BTV). I should tell you in the presence of other Members of Parliament MR SPEAKER: I have absolutely no knowledge of and then you decide what to do. That is the procedure I what you are talking about. wanted to talk about. Thank you. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Point of procedure Mr MR SPEAKER: Honourable Boko, I said I do not Speaker. know what you are talking about. What you should do is, if you think that what was agreed has not been done, MR SPEAKER: No. ask what has happened and not state as if you know for RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT’S a fact that somebody did something deliberately by not SPEECH doing what we had agreed. If you get information and you ask those responsible, then you are entitled to say Motion that cannot be a reasonable answer to what you saw. That is how it should be, procedurally. That is why I (Resumed Debate) said, I do not know what you are talking about, because HONOURABLE MEMBER: On a point of order Mr I have no facts. Speaker. LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION (MR MR SPEAKER: I said now you can come Honourable SALESHANDO): Procedure. Mr Speaker, yesterday Boko. in the evening I watched the broadcast of the Parliament proceeding on BTV after the 9’Oclock news, which is MR BOKO: Point of order. Mr Speaker, let me explain supposed to cover the proceedings from 4.30pm until this to you. I think maybe you should understand what we adjourn. It is true that the proceedings of those your responsibilities are as the Speaker in this House, not who took the floor at that time were not aired on TV that I undermine what you are doing. When a Member because I was here in Parliament. So, I request that you of Parliament stands to talk about something that you inquire from the relevant authorities so that when we do not know, like I stood on a point of procedure, you come back here at 2pm you give an answer. It cannot should allow me to say two or three words so that you be correct that they can do as they please, because there hear what I am saying, then you can overrule me rather is an agreement. Maybe for this issue to be resolved, Hansard No 200 1 Tuesday 17th November, 2020 RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT’S SPEECH Motion (Resumed Debate) I humbly request that when Parliament resumes after HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification, I did not lunch, we are given an explanation.
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