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DAILY YOUR VOICE IN PARLIAMENT THETHE SECOND THIRD MEETING MEETING OF THE OF FIRST THE SESSIONFIFTH SESSION OF THE OF THE ELEVENTWELFTH PARLIAMENTTH PARLIAMENT TUESDAY 25 AUGUST 2020 ENGLISHMIXED VERSION VERSION HANSARDHANSARD NO. NO: 193 198 DISCLAIMER Unocial Hansard This transcript of Parliamentary proceedings is an unocial version of the Hansard and may contain inaccuracies. It is hereby published for general purposes only. The nal edited version of the Hansard will be published when available and can be obtained from the Assistant Clerk (Editorial). THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East) Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. Mmadinare Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of the Opposition) Maun West Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. (Opposition Whip) Tonota Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. Ghanzi South Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South (Independent Member of Parliament) Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West TABLE OF CONTENTS THE THIRD MEETING OF THE FIRST SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT TUESDAY 25 AUGUST, 2020 CONTENTS PAGE (S) SPEAKER’S REMARKS......................................................................................................................................1 Approval of The Mid-Term Review of National Development Plan 11: 2017/2018 - 2022/2023 Motion (Resumed Debate)................................................................................................................1-19, 28-52 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER..........................................................................................................20-27 Tuesday 25th August, 2020 APPROVAL OF THE MID-TERM REVIEW OF NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN 11: 2017/2018 - 2022/2023 Motion (Resumed Debate) Tuesday 25th August, 2020 Mr Speaker, when we went for elections, the Umbrella for Democratic Change (UDC) was very clear that it is THE ASSEMBLY met at 11:00 a.m. going to create 100 000 jobs in a year and Botswana Democratic Party (BDP) was not to be left behind, they (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) stated that they are going to invent an electric car which P R A Y E R S will create maybe more than 100 000. * * * * HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Applause!)... SPEAKER’S REMARKS HONOURABLE MEMBER: We have not seen that car. MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Order! Order! Honourable Members, good morning. Let us start our MR RAMOGAPI: Mr Speaker, we wonder how far business this morning with Motions. we are with it. APPROVAL OF THE MID- HONOURABLE MEMBER: Where is it? TERM REVIEW OF NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN 11: 2017/2018 - MR RAMOGAPI: We could be clear on our progress 2022/2023 in so far as the electric car project is concerned for creation of employment and a stable economy that can Motion offer our youth jobs. This is painful because children are (Resumed Debate) crying all over Botswana. MR SPEAKER: Order! Order! Honourable Members, MR BOKO: Clarification. Honourable Member, I hear the debate on this Motion is resuming. When we that you are on point. Actually you have touched my adjourned yesterday, Honourable Segokgo had just heart. Is it okay for us as a country to think that we can finished his contribution and therefore, the floor is open. move people forward when we fail to set a target, do you think we can go somewhere? Can the people take MR RAMOGAPI (PALAPYE): Thank you Mr us seriously when we fail to set a target? Speaker. Let me quickly focus on economy and employment. Mr Speaker, our biggest challenge is that MR RAMOGAPI: Thank you Honourable Member. our economoy is unable to employ a sufficient number You remind me of the time when I was still a young of people. An expert H. Flasher says the unemployment man, when we proposed to a girl, we used to tell her that rate is at 18.19 per cent, and the question is, what we would buy her a train. should we do since we have unemployed youth who are HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… just sitting at home yet they have a Degree, Diploma and Certificate? Where is our policy and what does it MR RAMOGAPI: One would be saying that they will say? Mr Speaker, it is very painful for the youth all buy a train without even a railroad. This is what we also over the country to be decrying about unemployment see from the BDP Government. when we do not have a policy that clearly states how they are going to be employed. We should be serious HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Applause!)… as a country because according to the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs), by 2030 there should be ASSISTANT MINISTER OF AGRICULTURAL no hunger and unemployment. The main question is, DEVELOPMENT AND FOOD SECURITY (MS what are we going to do to get there? It is embarrassing MANAKE): Point of order Mr Speaker. Thank you that the Government of the day does not have a policy Mr Speaker. Honourable Ramogapi wants to mislead of what they are going to do. the nation saying we promised the electric car only. We have a very rich manifesto, which you are running after Mr Speaker, it is very painfull not to have targets every day wanting us to implement, be innovative. Do because we could be knowing the number of people not just talk about that, talk about the many things that we employed in 2020 and the number that we are going we are doing and those that we are going to continue employ in 2021 until we employ a sufficient number. doing. Thank you Mr Speaker. Hansard No198 1 Tuesday 25th August, 2020 APPROVAL OF THE MID-TERM REVIEW OF NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN 11: 2017/2018 - 2022/2023 Motion (Resumed Debate) MR SPEAKER: Honourable Ramogapi, continue, MR MOATLHODI: Elucidation. Thank you Mr there is no point of order. Speaker. I thank the Honourable Member of Palapye. I will be very brief sir. Does the point you are raising MR RAMOGAPI: Thank you Mr Speaker. We are include Kasane where all the land belongs to the whites talking about serious things. as well as game park vehicles,whereas a black person of LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION (MR this country does not have anything? SALESHANDO): On a point of procedure Mr Speaker.