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Report of Proceedings of Tynwald Court REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS OF TYNWALD COURT Douglas, Wednesday, July 9, 1980 at 10 a.m. Present: The Governor (Sir John Paul, the Supplementary Agenda, and if hon. G.C.M.G., O.B.E., M.C.). In the Council: members agree we will continue with our The Lord Bishop (the Rt. Rev. Vernon business while these Bills are being signed. Nicholls), the Attorney-General (Mr. T. W. Is that agreed? Cain), Messrs. G. T. Crellin, R. E. S. Ker- ruish, G. V. H. Kneale, R. MacDonald, W. A. It was agreed. Moore, J. C. Nivison, C.B.E., P. Radcliffe, A. H. Simcocks, M.B.E., with Mr. T. A. Bawden, Clerk of the Council. In the Keys: The Speaker (the Hon. Sir Charles Ker- PAPERS LAID BEFORE THE COURT. ruish, O.B.E.), Messrs. R. J. G. Anderson, W. K. Quirk, J. J. Radclitfe, J. N. Radcliffe, The Governor: I call on the Clerk to lay Mrs. C. M. Christian, Dr. E. J. Mann, papers. Messrs. A. A. Callin, R. L. Watterson, J. R. Creer, E. G. Lowey, M. R. Walker, N. Q. The Clerk: I lay before the Court:— Cringle, Mrs. E. C. Quayle, Messrs. G. A. Quinney, M.B.E., E. M. Ward, B.E.M., P. A. Customs and Excise Acts (Application) Craine, D. F. K. Delaney, E. C. Irving, Mrs. Act 1975—Export of Goods (Control) B. Q. Hanson, Mr. T. E. Kermeen, I.S.O., (Iran Sanctions) Order 1980 (Application) Dr. D. L. Moore, M.A., Ph.D., Messrs. J. J. Order 1980. Christian, G. C. Swales, with Mr. R. B. M. Quayle, Clerk of Tynwald. Advocates' Fees — First Interim Report of the Committee appointed to revise Ad­ ANNOUNCEMENT OF ROYAL ASSENT. vocates’ Fees. The Governor: Hon. members, I have to British Nationality (Fees) Acts 1949— announce in accordance with the terms of British Nationality (Fees) Regulations section 2 of the Acts of Tynwald (Emer­ 1980. gency Promulgation) Act 1916 that the Royal Assent was given to the following Licensing Act 1961— Licensing (No. 8) Act on 21st May 1980: Coinage Offences Order 1980. Licensing (No. 9) Order 1980. Act 1980. Licensing (No. 10) Order 1980. Licensing (No. 11) Order 1980. Licensing (No. 12) Order 1980. BILLS FOR SIGNATURE. The Governor: We have two Bills for Music and Dancing Act 1961—Music signature on the main Agenda and two on and Dancing Order 1980. Announcement of Royal Assent. — Bills for Signature. — Papers Laid Before the Court. T1290 TYNWALD COURT, JULY 9, 1980 Fees, Charges, Etc. Enabling Act 1972— young people to re-establish themselves in Isle of Man Highway and Transport Board society on their release? (Variation of Fees, Charges, Etc.) Order 1980. The Governor: Educational facilities are available in the prison for all prisoners who Whitley Council Agreement— Isle of Man wish to further their education. A teacher Civil Service — Amendment of Civil Ser­ from the College of Further Education vice Salary Scales (Public Notice No. attends the prison one full day in each 73/80.) week to give instruction in general sub­ Jects, including English. The College can Annual Report—Annual Report of the also provide instruction if requested in any Government Analyst’s Laboratory for the specific subJects, and prisoners are able year ended 31st December 1979. to take correspondence courses in G.C.E. ‘O' and ’A’ level examinations. Limited Local Government Board’s Approval to training is provided by prison officers for Petitions— Approval dated 20th June 1980 prisoners wishing to learn a trade and in to the following Petitions— (1) Petition of physical education. Additionally, it is the the Port Erin Village Commissioners for duty of prison officers to assist prisoners authority to borrow a sum not exceeding with their problems and for this purpose £9,500, repayable within 10 years, to defray they liaise with the probation service and the cost of improvements to the toilet other relevant organisations. They also facilties and the kitchen area at the Peti­ endeavour to help prisoners whilst still in tioners’ Bradda Glen Cafe premises. (2) custody in finding employment and accom­ Petition of the Ramsey Town Commission­ modation on their release, either in the ers for authority to borrow a sum not ex­ Isle of Man or in the United Kingdom, and ceeding £1,500, repayable within 20 years, it is hoped to offer further increased facili­ to defray additional costs in connection ties for prisoners to learn a trade when with the making up and surfacing of the the new wing of the prison is built. College Street Car Park, Ramsey — Sub­ Ject -to the amount of the borrowing being Mrs. Quayle: Your Excellency, since I reduced to a sum not exceeding £756, asked this question I have had various representing the limit acceptable within the comments on the re-establishment of terms of the original fixed-price contract. youngsters from the Tromode Home. The point has been made to me that the pro­ INMATES OF PRISON — EDUCATION, bation service is very over-worked so that TRAINING AND HELP — QUESTION when you are thinking in this area, could BY MRS. QUAYLE. Tromode Home be taken into considera­ tion? The Governor: That brings us to the Question Paper, hon. members. Question The Governor: Yes, I think I am right in number 1. I call upon the hon. member for saying that the organisation and methods Castletown, Mrs. Quayle. section of the Civil Service Commission is looking into the establishment of the pro­ Mrs. Quayle: Your Excellency, I beg to bation service. ask:—As on average more than half the Mrs. Quayle: Thank you. inmates of the prison last year were under 22 years of age, and as more than 100 persons admitted to the prison during the QUESTION NO. 2 — DEFERRED. year were under 26 years of age, is education, training and help with their The Governor: On question number 2, problems being provided to enable these the Chairman does not appear to be here Inmates of Prison — Education, Training and Help — Question by Mrs. Quayle. — Question No. 2 — Deferred. TYNWALD COURT, JULY 9, 1980 T1291 to answer it. Is the Vice-Chairman in a pcsi- authorise, subJect to police control, traffic tion to answer? Would you be happy to to cross the course at specific points defer it, Mr. Speaker? during intervals between races and also, of course, in the event of postponement. The Speaker: Yes, Your Excellency. Finally, and to be wholly realistic over the whole question of this access road, and although it is not for me to add my voice to those in the press, but some say that a T.T. COURSE — ACCESS ROAD TO life of 10 years for the T.T. is what one can INSIDE OF COURSE — QUESTION expect — (interruptions)— and if this BY MR. ANDERSON. should be the case the whole question of the construction of an access road into The Governor: Question number 3. I the inside of the T.T. course is at least call upon the hon. member for Glenfaba, quarter of a century too late. Mr. Anderson. Mr. Anderson: Your Excellency, I thank Mr. Anderson: Your Excellency, I beg to the hon. Chairman for his reply, but ask ask the Chairman of the Isle of Man High­ him if they have ever investigated the way and Transport Board:— In view of the question of a fly-over, as it were, which inconvenience caused to persons residing could be constructed at a great deal less or working inside the T.T. course when amount of money and possibly could be road closures are effected, particularly even dismantled afterwards? I think this is when races are postponed, will your Board a possibility, it can be done, and I am sure consider the construction of an access there are areas where it could be done. I road into the inside of the course for use would ask him if his Board are aware, during road closures? especially this year when there were so many postponements, of the very great Mr. J. N. Radcliffe: Your Excellency, my inconvenience there has been? One ap­ Board are very much aware that there is a preciates the tolerance of a lot of people certain amount of inconvenience caused to in this respect but a great lot of incon­ the public by the closure, not only of the venience has been caused, and real diffi­ T.T. course but the numerous other roads culty. which are closed for the purposes of staging other attractive events. This sug­ Mr. J. N. Radcliffe: Your Excellency, of gestion regarding the construction of an course my Board is aware of the incon- access road is one that has been made on ven:ence which is caused to certain sectors many occasions and, undoubtedly, an of the public and, indeed, we thank the access road between Douglas and the general public for their forbearance over parish of Braddan would remove a certain the whole question of road closings. We amount of public inconvenience when the have investigated the possibility of fly­ T.T. course is closed for motor-cycle overs, or whatever. I think we must be racing. However, to be totally realistic, the talking about a type of proJect which is cost of constructing such a roadway would capable of carrying traffic and, again, as be in the region of to £J million, and soon as you talk about capabilities of this for a maximum possible useage of 12 i carrying traffic over a main road—we were days a year would, I feel, be highly looking, for example, at the bottom of irresponsible and could not be Justified Bray Hill — the cost is, without doubt, far when there are so many more proJects of too exorbitant to consider.
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