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Friday, February 23, 1973 Fifth Series1R. 5 Phalguna 4, 1894 (Saka) /2.6$%+$ '(%$7(6 Seventh Session Fifth/RN6DEKD /2.6$%+$6(&5(7$5,$7 New Delhi Rs:2.00 CONTENTS N o. 5— Friday February 23, 1973 [Phatguna 4, 1894 (Saka) Oral Answers to Questions t Columns ♦Starred Questions Nos. 61 to 65 and 74 . 1-33 Written Answers to Questions 1 Starred Questions Nos. 66 to 73,75 to 80. 33-44 Unstarred Questions Nos. 601 to 621,623 to 631,633 to 664,666 to 755, 757 to 781 and 783 to 800. * ...........................................44-202 Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance Impact on Indian Rupee of U. S. Government’s decision to devalue dollar................................................................................................ 202-226 Matter under Rule—377 Alleged wrong statments by M inisters ......................................226-36 Re : Medical treatment of Shri Nagabhushan Patnaik detained in an Andhra Jail • 236-240 Papers Laid on the Table.................................................................. 240-46 Message from Rajya Sabha................................................................246 Advocates (Amendment) Bill— As Passed by Rajya S a b h a ......................................................... 247 Public Accounts Committee Sixty-fifth Report...................................................... ......... 247 Railway Convention Committee Third R e p o rt......................................................... • • 247 Business of the H o u s e . ...........................................................247-53! Correction o f Answer to S.Q. No. 174 re. trade agreement between India and Egypt............................................................................ 253-54 Election to Committees 1— (i) Cardamom B o a r d .........................................................254 (ii) Committee on Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes....................................................................................255 Re. Half-an-Hour Discussion..........................................................255-56 Motion of Thanks on the President’s Address . 256-75 Shri Dinesh Chandra G o s w a m i......................................257-61 Shri AtalBihari V a jp a y e e ...............................................261-75 Committee on Private Members’ Bills and Resolutions Twenty-second Report............................................................ 276 •The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. 3401 L.S.—l * t ii Columns Salaries and Allowances o f Members o f Parliament (Amendment) Bill (Insertion of new section n)by Dr. Karni Singh. • 276-82 Motion to Introduce—negatived. Bills Introduced : •> (i) Constitution (Amendment) Bill (Amendment of Seventh Schedule) by Shri Bhogendra Jha. 282 (ii) Constitution (Amendment) Bill (Amendment o) articles 100 and 189) by Shri R. P. Ulaganmbi 282-83 Constitution (Amendment) Bill— Withdrawn (Amendment of Eighth Schedule) by Dr. Kami Singh . 283-99 Motion to Consider.......................................................283 Shri Onkar Lai B e r w a ......................................• 283-84 Shri M. Ram Gopal R e d d y ................................................ 284-85 Shri Surendra M ohanty.........................................................285-86 Shri Dasaratha Deb .... 286-87 Shri Hukam Chand K achw ai..................................... .......... 287-88 Shri Nitiraj Singh Chaudhary . 288-93 Dr. Kami S in g h ..................................................293-98 Constitution (Amendment) Bill— (Amendment of articles 19,22 etc.) b y Shri A. K. Gopalan................................................. 299-340 Motion to Coqsider.f 299 Shri A. K. G o p a la n .........................................................299*309 Shri B. R. Shukla .................................................................. 310-16 Shri S a r jo o P a n d e y .........................................................316-20 Shri B. V. N a ik ....................................................................320-22 Shri J. Matha G o w d e r......................................................... 322-28 Shri R. S. Pandey...................................................................328-32 Shri Hukam Chand K ach w ai................................................332-39 Shri M. Ram Gopal Reddy. .... 339-40 LOK SABHA DEBATES 2 LQK SABHA advised Indian Airlines that there are some production problems, and that the matter is being examined in Friday; February 23, 1973/Phalguna, consultation with their collaborators 4, 1894 (SAKA) M/s. Hawker Siddeley Ltd. SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the HALDER: Sir, my first supplemen Clock. v tary is this. In view of the fact that the climb performance of HS 748 [Mr. Speaker in the Chair] Avro’s has been low, will the Gov ernment at least now realise the ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS justness of the demand made by tha Indian Airlines Pilots two yeans back and if so will the Government with flTT fair draw the punitive actions taken against the pilots and particularly j m ^TT against Shri Ranadive, Ex-Deputy Operational Manager of Indian Air lines, Bombay, who was given three *61. mt fWWFf : months imprisonment by a Bombay ^ iVo tfo »fhT : court for telling this truth? + DR. KARAN SINGH: The way the hon. Member brought up this ques 4EjT qt4srsT s4tr rt^t t 4«r*nRrcr tion, it does not bring out the correct *Tjjj «RTT% ^ f R T QTtff far : position. I do not want to go into the details of this unfortunate strike (V ) Wm ffoOTT Ctjtt sTf^rif if two years ago. There were many causes for that. Capt. Ranadive was f a t e s ? p i prosecuted by Government under the *RT 7 5TJT 7 48 ftWFff %% % Essential Services Maintenance Act, and he has been sentenced to im wrr f^qrr I ; srtr prisonment. I understand, he has appealed against his sentence. That (*ar) ?rr, m w t particular case is subjudice. I would | ? not like to comment on it. All care is 'being taken to see that safety THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND minima never go below under any circumstances, and that the aircraft CIVIL AVIATION (DR. KARAN SINGH): (a) and (b). Indian Air remains totaily safe. It is the res ponsibility of the Director General, lines have received three HS-748 air Civil Aviation to ensure that this is craft from Hindustan Aeronautics ensured. Ltd. against their latest order of ten. The remaining seven have not yet been offered to Indian Air lines. SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA Hindustan Aeronatutics limited have HALDER; What the Minister stated Oral Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Oral Answers [Shri Krishna Chandra Haider] taken. The fourth plane have not yet been offered at all by HAL. m ms reply, in my opinion, is not correct. So I am putting this second SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: supplementary. I want to know whe Why? ther it is a fact that despite the power DR. KARAN SINGH: Because, as boostings of the engines the aircrafts climb performance could not im I said in my reply earlier, in the prove. If so, what steps are going fourth plane, they have run. into cer tain technical snags which they are- to be taken by Govt, to make these sorting out with their collaborators aircrafts useful and for the safety in England, namely the Hawker Sid- tiavel of the passengers? dleyts. One plane in fact went to- DR. KARAN SINGH: The ques England for this purpose. There tion of climb performance has been fore, I want to clarify that there is paving a certain amount of worry no question of Indian Airlines having from time to time. And it is in fact refused to take delivery. Secondly, in this climb performance that HAL. with regard to the operational cost, ran into some new factors in regard it is true that the operational cost, to which this consultation with Haw of small aircraft like the Avro com ker Siddeleys is going on. However, I pared with their earning capacity are may again state that all the Avros in high. But as I have said on previous the fleet of Indian Airlines today occasions, the profitability is not the fully meet the safety standards set only thing that we can keep in mind. down by D.G.C.A. There is no ques Profitability also depends upon the tion of supplying planes which are segment where the plane is flown, the below safety standards. That is our fuel costs, wage cos’ts and so on. responsibility and that responsibility Therefore, while it is true that the we are discharging. About second Avro certainly in that way is not a segment climb, we hope it will be very profitable aircraft, nevertheless, more impressive once HAL makes the Indian Airlines is performing a out these modifications after consul public utility service by flying to tation with Hawker Siddeleys. many places and on many routes which are not profitable. Therefore, SHRI D. B. CHANDRA GOWDA: this is a matter which is always kept One of the leading Dailies, The m view by Government and by the Hindi, on 16th February said that Indian Airlines. Indian Airlines have refused to take delivery of 7 Avro 748 aircrafts. It it a fact that the operational cost % tt tt®' fan- %, *r tanges from nearly to the tune ofRs. STTfT ’TFB pfr f. fa rrsft r%qr % 3600 per hour whereas comparative earnings are in the range of Rs. 3200. TWT f^FT % Ppi«r«l % farrr Anyway, before the Indian Airlines fa*rfar*fr % ihrr ^ i ^ come to the conclusion of refusing these Avro-748, would Government ^ t fa fanrTrr-’BTRv consider the report of the technical *r $r— sfte sr $*r srrer committee