Friday, February 23, 1973 Fifth Series1R. 5 Phalguna 4, 1894 (Saka)

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Oral Answers to Questions t Columns ♦Starred Questions Nos. 61 to 65 and 74 . . . 1-33

Written Answers to Questions 1 Starred Questions Nos. 66 to 73,75 to 80. . . . 33-44 Unstarred Questions Nos. 601 to 621,623 to 631,633 to 664,666 to 755, 757 to 781 and 783 to 800. * ...... 44-202 Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance Impact on Indian Rupee of U. S. Government’s decision to devalue dollar...... 202-226 Matter under Rule—377 Alleged wrong statments by M inisters ...... 226-36 Re : Medical treatment of Shri Nagabhushan Patnaik detained in an Andhra Jail • 236-240 Papers Laid on the Table...... 240-46 Message from Rajya Sabha...... 246

Advocates (Amendment) Bill— As Passed by Rajya S a b h a ...... 247 Public Accounts Committee Sixty-fifth Report...... 247 Railway Convention Committee Third R e p o rt...... • • 247 Business of the H o u s e ...... 247-53! Correction o f Answer to S.Q. No. 174 re. trade agreement between India and Egypt...... 253-54

Election to Committees 1— (i) Cardamom B o a r d ...... 254 (ii) Committee on Welfare of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes...... 255 Re. Half-an-Hour Discussion...... 255-56 Motion of Thanks on the President’s Address . . 256-75 Shri Dinesh Chandra G o s w a m i...... 257-61 Shri AtalBihari V a jp a y e e ...... 261-75 Committee on Private Members’ Bills and Resolutions Twenty-second Report...... 276 •The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. 3401 L.S.—l * t ii

Columns Salaries and Allowances o f Members o f Parliament (Amendment) Bill (Insertion of new section n)by Dr. Karni Singh. . • 276-82 Motion to Introduce—negatived. Bills Introduced : •> (i) Constitution (Amendment) Bill (Amendment of Seventh Schedule) by Shri Bhogendra Jha. 282 (ii) Constitution (Amendment) Bill (Amendment o) articles 100 and 189) by Shri R. P. Ulaganmbi 282-83 Constitution (Amendment) Bill— Withdrawn (Amendment of Eighth Schedule) by Dr. Kami Singh . 283-99

Motion to Consider...... 283 Shri Onkar Lai B e r w a ...... • 283-84 Shri M. Ram Gopal R e d d y ...... 284-85 Shri Surendra M ohanty...... 285-86 Shri Dasaratha Deb .... 286-87 Shri Hukam Chand K achw ai...... 287-88 Shri Nitiraj Singh Chaudhary . . . . 288-93 Dr. Kami S in g h ...... 293-98

Constitution (Amendment) Bill— (Amendment of articles 19,22 etc.) b y Shri A. K. Gopalan...... 299-340 Motion to Coqsider.f 299 Shri A. K. G o p a la n ...... 299*309 Shri B. R. Shukla ...... 310-16 Shri S a r jo o P a n d e y ...... 316-20 Shri B. V. N a ik ...... 320-22 Shri J. Matha G o w d e r...... 322-28 Shri R. S. Pandey...... 328-32 Shri Hukam Chand K ach w ai...... 332-39 Shri M. Ram Gopal Reddy. .... 339-40 LOK SABHA DEBATES 2

LQK SABHA advised Indian Airlines that there are some production problems, and that the matter is being examined in Friday; February 23, 1973/Phalguna, consultation with their collaborators 4, 1894 (SAKA) M/s. Hawker Siddeley Ltd.

SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the HALDER: Sir, my first supplemen­ Clock. v tary is this. In view of the fact that the climb performance of HS 748 [Mr. Speaker in the Chair] Avro’s has been low, will the Gov­ ernment at least now realise the ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS justness of the demand made by tha Indian Airlines Pilots two yeans back and if so will the Government with­ flTT fair draw the punitive actions taken against the pilots and particularly j m ^TT against Shri Ranadive, Ex-Deputy Operational Manager of Indian Air­ lines, Bombay, who was given three *61. mt fWWFf : months imprisonment by a Bombay ^ iVo tfo »fhT : court for telling this truth?

+ DR. KARAN SINGH: The way the hon. Member brought up this ques­ 4EjT qt4srsT s4tr rt^t t 4«r*nRrcr tion, it does not bring out the correct *Tjjj «RTT% ^ f R T QTtff far : position. I do not want to go into the details of this unfortunate strike (V ) Wm ffoOTT Ctjtt sTf^rif if two years ago. There were many causes for that. Capt. Ranadive was f a t e s ? p i prosecuted by Government under the *RT 7 5TJT 7 48 ftWFff %% % Essential Services Maintenance Act, and he has been sentenced to im­ wrr f^qrr I ; srtr prisonment. I understand, he has appealed against his sentence. That (*ar) ?rr, m w t particular case is subjudice. I would | ? not like to comment on it. All care is 'being taken to see that safety THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND minima never go below under any circumstances, and that the aircraft CIVIL AVIATION (DR. KARAN SINGH): (a) and (b). Indian Air­ remains totaily safe. It is the res­ ponsibility of the Director General, lines have received three HS-748 air­ Civil Aviation to ensure that this is craft from Hindustan Aeronautics ensured. Ltd. against their latest order of ten. The remaining seven have not yet been offered to Indian Air lines. SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA Hindustan Aeronatutics limited have HALDER; What the Minister stated Oral Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Oral Answers [Shri Krishna Chandra Haider] taken. The fourth plane have not yet been offered at all by HAL. m ms reply, in my opinion, is not correct. So I am putting this second SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE: supplementary. I want to know whe­ Why? ther it is a fact that despite the power DR. KARAN SINGH: Because, as boostings of the engines the aircrafts climb performance could not im­ I said in my reply earlier, in the prove. If so, what steps are going fourth plane, they have run. into cer­ tain technical snags which they are- to be taken by Govt, to make these sorting out with their collaborators aircrafts useful and for the safety in England, namely the Hawker Sid- tiavel of the passengers? dleyts. One plane in fact went to- DR. KARAN SINGH: The ques­ England for this purpose. There­ tion of climb performance has been fore, I want to clarify that there is paving a certain amount of worry no question of Indian Airlines having from time to time. And it is in fact refused to take delivery. Secondly, in this climb performance that HAL. with regard to the operational cost, ran into some new factors in regard it is true that the operational cost, to which this consultation with Haw­ of small aircraft like the Avro com­ ker Siddeleys is going on. However, I pared with their earning capacity are may again state that all the Avros in high. But as I have said on previous the fleet of Indian Airlines today occasions, the profitability is not the fully meet the safety standards set only thing that we can keep in mind. down by D.G.C.A. There is no ques­ Profitability also depends upon the tion of supplying planes which are segment where the plane is flown, the below safety standards. That is our fuel costs, wage cos’ts and so on. responsibility and that responsibility Therefore, while it is true that the we are discharging. About second Avro certainly in that way is not a segment climb, we hope it will be very profitable aircraft, nevertheless, more impressive once HAL makes the Indian Airlines is performing a out these modifications after consul­ public utility service by flying to tation with Hawker Siddeleys. many places and on many routes which are not profitable. Therefore, SHRI D. B. CHANDRA GOWDA: this is a matter which is always kept One of the leading Dailies, The m view by Government and by the Hindi, on 16th February said that Indian Airlines. Indian Airlines have refused to take delivery of 7 Avro 748 aircrafts. It it a fact that the operational cost % tt tt®' fan- %, *r tanges from nearly to the tune ofRs. STTfT ’TFB pfr f. fa rrsft r%qr % 3600 per hour whereas comparative earnings are in the range of Rs. 3200. TWT f^FT % Ppi«r«l % farrr Anyway, before the Indian Airlines fa*rfar*fr % ihrr ^ i ^ come to the conclusion of refusing these Avro-748, would Government ^ t fa fanrTrr-’BTRv consider the report of the technical *r $r— sfte sr $*r srrer committee headed toy Shri Rama- ^ t —fa OT 3TT W&3T mrutham, which came to the conclu­ sion that the Avros were sound and f , %faJT %nr % *rr safe for the demands made on them?

DR. KARAN SINGH; As I have srffasr m m v * srftt said in my main reply, there is no % ’ sr? *TTf3r«ft sfft vt spw question of the Indian Airlines having | i *r ^>rr wt w refused to take delivery. Three planes have been offered and have been «TT fa rr^fT «pff 3T* Oral Answers PHALGUNA 4,1894 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6

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VTfr HT ^rrRr*rt «ifr ^t«tt *?r i 5* fr * «fr srr stir- fr marfciY fr frff f^Frsr »nfar fr f r SHRI JAGANNATH RAU The *raftf2T-3r%T5r ?rra> fafar »r«fr*R Avros are flying between Calcutta fr far* 5f?r srr^r fr fr *? and Hyderabad Recently, one Avro f r *frr m t s *T^rrr | *r service was introduced from Dum Dum to Hyderabad, and 1 am a fre­ v s *rarr fr *>$r fr f r srnr stt # ? quent traveller by this Is the %ir w ^ fr«rr irnr i r *T tff w r ^TJTq- ? iT*rr *rr?t safety of the plane’ In case of an 5 accident, they only pay Rs 40,000 to h wm ^#3nr tst *fr*r t*? #»ra the family of the deceased *t ^rnrr ^rr ?r%*nr tfhr 5* ?p^ srf o^t DR KARAN SINGH As I submit­ *rfa *ft *r?rsrrfo&rT ?rt*rr i *r«R ted, IAC is (satisfied with the safety fto *fto ?fto ITo T & t f f r *r?r and that is why the planes are flying I might clarify one other matter The ^ a p ^ jr fr, wnr ^t ?r increase m compensation from Rs Tt fr ^ rsr i *r^r 40,000 to Rs 1,00,000 is purely fortui­ *rV £?r % srf% frn *rg zrfk& fr fr * tous and has absolutely nothing to do with the Avro operations ^flfT^fnr’T’Jifr^ faRfrgTOTVTlPRT fr i a rm ? w wpt f r **r fr 4 ^ ? SHRI R V SWAMINATHAN In view of the fact that the Avro air­ ’mfrs vrntwrTTTwrfr tfo3fto*ft«rro craft has become a controversial fr f r ^Tf cfr?r ir«jT-?rff fr i subject with regard to safety, econo­ W frir ^r- %q vr cr^r ^fr fr i mic*? of operation running cost*? etc why should Government stick to sft wrofaft m fr ? this aircraft only’ Have they am propo al to go m for any other air­ f*r apt sj^ r w t ^brr ’t^it fr 7 craft which is preferable from thc safety profitabiht\ point of view’ «To ift ^>rr *%st ^rw> DR KARAN SINGH As you are ^ fr fr T fe rii m aware we ha\o recently purchased r fV fr i ^arfr ^*r fr ^ fr^rr *m fr 7 Boeings ^ frtT ft ?TCT f t W^TT T f r FT fr »t4TT ^^Jhsr t i w r ? f y ^ f r i As far as the performance is con­ cerned they aie excellent and have ^hb trfrprr % w fr fr^V vSt been in operation The point is that W rtrtl1 fr i wp- wr ?> f r these planes are in the fleet of IA Oral Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Oral Answers 8 [Dr. Karan Singh] Office* of Ttoa Btouft in &.&S&. and other Socialist Countries and they are manufactured in India. We have made a total order lor 24 *62. SHRI SARGJ MUKHERJEE: out of which 17 were delivered; with Will the Minister of COMMERCE one loss, 16 are with uis. They are be pleased to state the reasons for manufactured in India; they are an in­ not hawing any offices of the Indian digenous product. As long as they Tea Board in U.SJ3.R. and other are safe, we must use them. I agree Socialist countries which purchase that if I had the money I could throw a large quantity of Indian tea re­ all the Avros away immediately and gularly? buy 20 more jets. That would be marvellous. But we have got to THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE keep m view the fact that our re­ MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI sources are limited. This may be a A. C. GEORGE): The offices of Tea poor thing, but it is our own and as Board are set up abroad depending 3ong as it is safe, wo must use it upon the requirements of the market Accordingly, the Tea Board have set SHRI ATAL BIHAR1 VAJPAYEE: up offices at various places from time It is not safe. to time and at present they have SIIR1 JYOTIRMOY BOSU Is it oi offices in London, Brussels, New York, is it not a iacl that a task team was Cairo and Sydney. entrusted to go into the airworthiness So far, the Tea Board have not of this aircraft and they had found found it necessary to establish offices that this aircraft was quite fit? Is m U.S.S.R. or in the other Socialist it or is not a fact that a foreign countries. ‘plane lobby led particularly by Fok- ker Friendship is lobbying against SHRI SIAROJ .MUKHERJEE: The the Avro? Minister has just informed us that opening of offices in other countries DR. KARAN SINGH: As far as the depends on the market as decided by first question is concerned, there was the Tea Board. When our export the Ramamurtham Committee set up trade in tea is developing with the Then a task force was set up. I socialist countries, why is the have got the report, a copy of which Board not feeling necessary to open has been placed ii)! the Library oi offices m Moscow and other socialist Parliament. It consisted of O. P. capitals and only depending on capi­ Mehra. who was chief of HAL and is talist trade centres like London and still its chief but who is now Chief New York? of the Air Staff, Hussain and Arya. They have said that it is fit. SHRI A. C. GEORGE: These offices are opened with a view to As far as lobbying is concerned, as tackle various problems faced in the far as I know, there is no such lob­ export of tea. I do agree with the bying and we are not under any hon. member that our export to pressure. I must say, however, that USSR and other socialist countries there has been a very remarkable has gone up by more than 57 per and very impressive campaign against cent. From 32.79 million kg. in 1970, the aircraft. it has gone up to 52 mllion kg. in 1912. Also the value which was Rs. 27 crores in 1&70 has gone up to SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: The Rs. 42 crores in 1972. But I may hon. Minister did not tell us that this humbly submit that exports to east Fokker Friendship lobby had given a Europe have risen by more than 56 ]unch party gt which each and every per cent. In view of this and con­ invitee was given a clock. sistent with the need to tailor our JO 9 Oral Answers PHALGUNA 4,1894 (SAKA) Oral Answers tlea promotion activities with the Secondly, the hon Minister has different types of economic organisa­ not yet said clearly what are the ad­ tions, we have so far not felt the vantage, that obtain by having these need to establish Tea Board offices in lea c nitres in the various parts of the the USSR and other socialist coun­ world, though the hon. Minister said tries. As and when we are faced that he has not found it quite neces­ with problems which we feel could sary to open tea centres in the be tackeled by opening Tea Board socialist countries. offices, we will never hesitate to do it. SHRI A. C. GEORGE: I am very In the case of the other Tea Board happy that the hon. Member wh© is offices, it s more to retain our trade; also a member of the Tea Board has and there is stiff resistance and we put this specific question. It is true have to tackle it. that our export of tea to the USSR SHRI SAROJ MUKHERJEE: Will has gone up. From 1970, when it the Minister fight this reactionary was at that time at the level of 28.76 and corrupt practice of the Indian Tea million kg., it has gone up to 41.52 Board when the Government hais million kg in 1972. The value also declared that we are to develop our has gone up. But I will not agree export trade in tea and other com­ with the hon. Member that any of modities with the socialist countries? the socialist countries is purchasing SHRI A. C GEORGE: The Tea tea from us and switching it over to Board is not an autonomous body, hard currency countries. This is a and it is subject to the control of the false notion that is prevailing. I Government. Naturally, there can­ categorically refute that impjression not be any reactionary forces work­ if it is prevailing. Tea is freely ex­ ing in the Tea Board. (Interrup­ ported to whichever destination that tion). is prepared to purchase. We can only SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY: assure the House that additional It is quite clear from the hon. efforts will be made to see that our Mimsters’s statement that in the tea is consumed more in the inter­ recent years our tea exports to the national markets and more free* socialist countries, particularly foreign exchange is earned. USSR and other east European coun­ SHRI J. MATHA GOWDER: I tries, have gone, up, whatever the want to know from the Minister figuies in terms of the quantum whether the Government have en­ or the amount that has been men­ tered into an agreement to export tioned by the Minister. I would like tea to the USSR during the current to know further whether it is a fact year and, if so, how much of tea will that the USSR alone receives from be exported. our country as much as 95 per cent SHRI A. C. GEORGE: A sizeable of our total export of Darjeeling tea. quantity of tea is included in the This also should be found out. What 1975 (trade plan. (Interruption). are the reasons that in the past two We have a trade plan with the USSR or three years the exports have gone wherein tea is also included as a up to a larger extent May X know quota item. I will not be able to whether it is a fact that such tea tell the precise quantity now. exported to the USSR and other east European countries is being diverted to the hard currency areas in the western countries? In view of this, * 63. ftrar srwft : m I would urge upon the Minster to «rifrrJEr Tfsfr w n w fa : say whether hie wili immediately open tea centres in the socialist (Sp) m % foq-frr % countries to stop this gap and also snror wrm % sftt Jr tot srr to have more foreign exchange earn­ ings from tea. I I Oral Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1078 Oral Answers 12

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THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A. C. GEORGE): (a) and (b). A if jnft «rr ^hRff satement is laid on the Table of the % \fa ft *tf t , ftrar % q fw w ffw House. srarr ;3^ft*r fft yw f r «w*ff S t a t e m e n t rr to | 1 £® for (a) On account of large exports of *r ^ spft % m x % *m semi>

ifinished leather and footwear will not scheme is under consideration and we be sufficiently available internally. hope to implement it by 1-4-73. It is our endeavour to see that more and more finished items go out so that SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY: the value added is more. The pro­ Recently there was drought and portion between semi-finished leather famine in Maharashtra and some and finished leather is 2:3. If we ex­ parts of Telangana and there was port more of finished leather, we will death of cattle for want of animal be realising more. feed. Is there any increased supply of skins and hides from Maharashtra fiw : *arer and Telangana? 3 % aft «rr *rr SHRI A. C. GEORGE: I am not ‘■f^rr «rcrr— ’tfVr fa rfa sure whether we can connect drought conditions with availability of raw ♦vr if, % w i ^ — sm hides and skins. *r f t ? m x ^ r *r r ^ r qft amft | ?ft far *Tf vit ft w r fa SHRI M RAM GOPAL REDDY: When he says there is shortage of *r=5TT^ f t n f ? skins and hides, I am saying there is plenty of supply. I want to know SHRI A. C. GEORGE: It is not from him whether it is a fact or not exactly an imbalance. As the hon. member himself suggested there was a *ft v f vsjwrar : wsft nfraw Committee to go into this problem under the Chairmanship of Dr. Seetara- it T O if & fa *Tf 3TRT maiah. They submitted a report and I fa *rfr *ttctt if srsr-*rc?T jpnrr ■ they suggested that it will not be a w r f J f T ^ sft sfTlfm spt | ^ ^ vsn#*r r sft w fasrrc fa*rr ? stpfT ?rer *r % fa s jp t fasrt ^YsrTr WZ ■3s# TTfT % 3TT ®f fa^TT i $ srnwr ^r^rr g fa •JsrsYsrcT % fa ^ T T T T ^3f cHP f t mmt, SRT tsBftT^rTfa^Snrp- % ^ ?rr®fTFr w rk ?ft ^rr ^ f ^ vt ^frrtnrr ’ mr '3*rft w -^fT «wt % n f eR> SHRI A. C. GEORGE: The scheme ? for footwear industry is to charge a sort of levy or a cess on the export SHKI A. C GEORGE: I said at of semifinished leather and what is the outset that the export of semi- accrued from this cess is to be passed finishtd leather has gone up and the on so that an encouragement may be price also has gone up exorbitantly. given to the footwear industry. The When we found this situation on 15 Oral Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 O ral Answers 16

14-12-1972 we canalised the export of SHRI A. C. GEORGE: We have a semi-finished leather goods so that scheme to have semi-finished leather Government may have better control converted into finished leather, foot­ over the export of semi-fimshed wear and other leather manufactures. leather. About the latter part of the For this some imported machinery is question I answered already that we needed and we are trying to build the hoped by 1-4-1973 we would be able infrastructure for building up the to implement the scheme of giving industry for conversion of semi­ relief to the footwear manufacturers. finished leather into footwear and other leather goods. «ff J * * V f y gpfTU : 5ft 5TR '3ttt ’T^t srnn i % 4>#i f*P rm 44por «rti : m m % t ^ r , f«m\ci ^ T R T fft ip-IT— ^TT^T ?[t iren4c4lq srnm; ?4 vmfinr t o t ? srnr% & rm fiw fa wr* ^ ft srffts f i wrefor ^ forr* f, sffeff m sztttr ft mr, Ow r m $ *fhc ? r ^ 1 ZrfkK aft w - naflr t t ^rprr g sriwcT *4t?r % 4ir tnp w tt T4tnn *rt sr4t4t

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«ft «PSf*nr : *rsr srarra SHRI A. C. GEORGE: This con­ ? 20 ft 40 STfrTW cT«l? fusion about right and left happened as a stray incident in 1968. After­ *$t f—f^r marc wk * rm t wards, we have made enough pre­ f r O tm *£t %, ^ ’ cautions and there are no more com­ plaints. SHRI H. M. PATEL: Can he not indicate even the approximate rise in price? What was the quantum? He Trade with Bangladesh can give some indication at least. *64. SHRI li N. BARMAN: Will SHRI A. C. GEORGE: The general the Minister of COMMERCE be rise is more than 30 per cent. pleased to state: (a) what was the quantum ot ex­ *ft W * fa* : *WT *T5ft * t port of various Indian goods to *rjiTfr % fa srcTT Bangladesh during the last year; sftr m ir tt wr rgt % i (b) what percentage of such ex­ §sm: % f^r %m w t v x ^ f port was through private trade agen­ snfa Tftm ?pt i3^rRrr ^ w V irt cies: and

feraft f*r wrt *Rtarf ^ tft (c) what was the total import to t * India from that country? 17 Oral Answers PHALGUNA 4,1894 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18 *'

THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE (a) The following are the recorded (PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA): figures of exports commodity-wise for (a) to (c). A statement is laid on the period April—August, 1972: the Table of the House.

Statement

(Rs. lakhs.)

SI. Commodity. Unit Qty Value 'Jo.

1. Wheat ...... 000 Tons 226 1833 2. Gram split...... Tons. 663 9 3. Tobacco Unmanufactured .... L.Kg. 45 I96 4. Milk and cream .... oookg. 320 28 5- Phosphorous white and yellow. .... )) 9 X 6.Phosphorus red. ... 9 I 7- Potasium chlorate...... 220 5 8. Medicinal and Pharmaceutical products. Value* • • 35 9. Articles and materials of rubber »3 6 10. Paper and paper-borad...... 17 11. Articles made oi pulp .... » • • 10 12.Cement Portland grey . 000 Tons 59 127 13. Sodium bicarbonate...... oookg. 48 2 14. Castor oil...... L. Kg. 4 II 15- Raw cotton excl. linters sweepings etc. 000 Tons 3*2 301 16. Cotton yarn and thread ... 000 Kg. 548 70 »7- Galved and corrogated sheets of iron and steel 000 Tons 3 40 18. Wire tods iron or steel other than of high carbon alloy steel ... 000 Tons 0*9 12 19. Bars, rods except wire rods of iron or steel, except high carbon allow s t e e l ...... 0-5 6 20., Pig iron incl. c a s t ...... 3? 2*2 12

T otal Exports (incl. other items and re-exports') Value. 3317

Statistics beyond the month of August are not yet available. (b) Statistics are not maintained according to categories of exporters. (c) During April-July, 1972—for which figures are at present available, imports from Bangladesh were of the order of Rs. 26 lakhs. 19 Oral Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1978 Oral Answers 20

SHRI R. N. BARMAN: May I and more than 70 per cent of our .know whether Government have any trade with Bangladesh under the plan for a joint move ior jute export Limited Payments Agreement is being to other countries of the world? channelised through State agencies* so that this sort of irregular and un­ PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA: happy things do not take place, creat­ The question was pertaining to ing avoidable misunderstanding be­ Bangladesh. The hon. Member has tween the two counties. asked about our schemes to export to other countries. Of course, we have SHRI SAMAR GUHA; May I know schemes and the schemes are being whether it is a fact that by 31st implemented in regard to export of March this year the 150-crore Indo- jute to other countries as well. Bangladesh trade pact is going to end and if so, whether any balancing of the success and failure of import and SHRI R. N. BARMAN: May I export both by Bangladesh and India know whether the Government will has been made and if so, whether consider making an ambitious plan to that will be taken into consideration •export handloom weavers’ products before entering into a new pact with to Bangladesh and to import fish Bangladesh? from there?

PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA: PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA; In the agreement that we had with Yes, Sir. The bilateral agreement Bangladesh, there is a provision for entered into between these two coun­ import of raw fish and it is being im- tries envisaged a total quantum of . plemented. but not to the extent we trade worth Rs. 50 crores and not 1 expected. Handloom and other Rs. 150 crores. In terms of perform­ things, we are exporting through ance, we have found that the agree­ State agencies. ment did not work to the extent we expccted Various reasons are there SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: I would for that—the fluid situation, trans­ like to know whether the Minister’s port bottlenecks and other difficulties. attention has been drawn to nume­ And as I said, the implementation of rous reports which have appeared the agreement is not to the extent wc that some of these commodities which expected. So, while we enter into ( have been supplied from India to the next agreement, the shortfalls Bangladesh, particularly by private and the reasons thereof will be taken trade agency, have been of sub­ into consideration. standard quality and have often been found not to be as per specifications, SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SINHA* and this unfortunate occurence has May I know whether it is a fact that been exploited in Bangladesh by cer­ so far as the price of jute is concerned, tain anti-Indian elements also. I Bangla Desh has of late been under­ would like to know from him what cutting thereby imperilling export of is the extent, actually, of this prob­ jute from India? lem and what steps Government has taken to see that such things do not occur in future—&o that this may not PROF D. P CHATTOPADHYAYA: become a point of unnecessary fric­ I cannot confirm it at this stage be­ tion between the two countries. cause necessary information of a definite nature i«s not with us jt the PROF D P. CHATTOPADHYAYA: moment. It is a fact that initially there were some such reports, but in the light of those the pattern of trade with Bangla­ «rfarr f w : $ m m desh has been completely changed, ^ T T £ fa

4trc4atwt4oi *V$, the Central teams for expenditure during the current financial year on wt <$ffW %*mr m vwvr drought relief measures for purposes vitK ftRw; m snNhnflr ^ »rf of Central assistance. An amount of I ? Its. 49.00 crores has so far been re­ leased to the State Government- i ROF D ? CHATTOPADHYAYA: Further assistance will be released on I am not *»v aie of any report that tin basis of the progress of expendi­ Government agencies are involved in ture under the ceilings to be reported any sort of mai-practices Further, if by the State Government. any such specific instance is with the Financial Assistance to Gujarat for hoa. Membei, we will certainly look Drought Relief Works into it and do the needful if he passes on that information to us. + *74. SHRI ARVIND M. PATEL: wfarc : t fa-trcwCI SHRI D. P. JADEJA: % f a t f i Will the Minister of FINANCE be* pleased to state: PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA: As I said in answer to an hon. Mem­ (a) the total amount demanded by ber’s question earlier, there were Gujarat Government to face drought some such reports to start with in situation in the State; 1972. (b) the total amount sanctioned by* the Central Government; and MR. SPEAKER: Have you any idea about the names of those agencies? fc) the total amount paid?

PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA: THE MINISTER OF FINANCE Yes. Sir. They have been deprived of (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): the right to do the business any more. (a) to (c). In response to a request from the State Government, a Central Team visite

of relief works have been started aft tft , Tifrr % *«r if, «rrr % and more than three million men and women have been employed on these m ir4TR % 4 * % mfo w4crar «rrsr a i w relief works. The people are facing | W flt TTffT fhe calamity with courage and the £t ?T3J% flfSRT 3 TOt State Government is doing its best ZTrZ to give relief with the aid and assis­ ^frzrcTT i tance of the Central Government. SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: Out of Rs. 94.09 crores sanctioned Things in Gujarat are equally grim by the Centre, r s . 49 crores have and we have assured Gujarat Gov­ been released so far. May I know ernment that they certainly will ibe from the Finance Minister whether supported by the Central Government the remaining Rs. 45 crores will be in this matter. released before the 31st March as the expenditure under the ceiling has SHRI D. P. JADEJA: The Minister already been incurred by the State slated that Central team hd^ vi&i1 * I Government? Gujarat. It had visited, and it is SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: eoing to visit also. Nowt Sir, may 1 As I said, reimbursement and release know how many districts have been of money etc. depend upon the actual drought-affected, which were not expenditure that is incurred. So, if touched by this Central team which it is incurred during that period, had already gone there? certainly, the money would be released. SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN It is very difficult for me to say SHRI ANANTRAO PATIL In exactly how many districts they view of the fact that there are four visited, etc. But we have the State months more for the rains to come Government’s information that the and relief works have got to be total area of kharif villages which continued up till July and even upto were affected were 81 lakh acres and September and in view of the fact the total area under rnbi wliages that many more people "will have to were 88,000. The total number of be given employment and in this cattle population was more than 40 situation more expenditure has to be lakhs etc. So, the vastness and the incurred by State Government, can magnitude of this problem is indi­ the State Government ask for more cated by these figures. from the Centre? SHRI D P. JADEJA; Why I pur­ SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: posely asked regarding districts was It all depends upon the State Gov­ because Jamnagar district is one dis­ ernment's judgment and the State trict w*hich has never had such a Government’s assessment. drought situation as it is having nqwf. But unfortunately no central officer nor has any Minister from Centre nH'flra 'tsN : ^nr been able to go to that district. Will S3** % ^ fa * ^ ^ 4 they go to this district in future?

SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: fa ijsrtnr A to t sftr When any Central Team visits, its m ’arm, W urtst tft programme is arranged toy the State ft *flft t ftf faflt ^T*T *TT^ Government because, naturally, the State Government is expected t» f i W t *fcft % m know more about the nature and the •giftrr fa frercr Sr 3 type of famine, etc. It depends upon 2$ Oral Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26 the initiative of the State Govern­ MR. SPEAKER: He may send it to ment. Equally these people also me m writ. ig, and I shall see how it should go and see and 1 have no contradicts, and I shall get the clari­ doubt, Central team people also can fication from him. take the initiative a’nd take action in the matter. If the hon. Member SHRI PILOO MODY. If they do not gives any suggestion in this regard. I give the clarification, then you must will certainly forward them to the dismiss them. concerred persons in the Planning Commission. MR. SPEAKER: When he will be the Speaker, he "may 'have this PROF- MADHU DANDAVATE. authority. Maharashtra Government made two Specific demands from the Centre. SHRI SHANKERRAO SAVANT: Is Number one. They said. as famine it true that the assistance so far given relief work} West Coast Konkan to the Government of Maharashtra Railway should be started imme­ is lar below the demand made by diately In the Railway Budget the them, and if so, what is the differ­ House was informed that it is under ence between the demand made and active consideration of the Finance the assistance given? Tnirdly} how Ministry. Since fortunately the are the State Governments expected Finance Minister is here, we would to meet this shortfall? like to know how far the active con­ sideration has proceeded? Will it be SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN; over before the famine is over? Normally, whatever demand is m^de is ultimately assessed according to certain criteria that the Planning SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN; Commission has accepted, and it is on It is not only under consideration of that basis that this is done. this Ministry, it is under active con­ sideration of this Ministry, it is MR SPEAKER; The main, ques­ under active consideration of the tions are confined to Maharaslhtra v/nole Government and Gujarat onl> and I shall try to accommodate Members from these PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: States. This is what we have been told. We have been told by the Railway Min­ SHRI PILOO MODY: I belong to ister that it is under active conside­ both States. ration of the Finance Ministry. SHRI S R DAMANI In view of SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: the change in the policy of the Gov­ Yes, I am also speaking on behalf of ernment that the States can take up the Government. works which would afford perma­ nent relief in the famine-affected areas, may I know whether the SHRI JAGANNATH&AO JOSH I: schemes for irrigation and rural elec­ He asked, will the active considera- trification in the famine areas, which 1 ion be over before the famine is over. are under consideration would be He has not replied. cleared and if so, the extent to which money will be sanctioned for these PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: schemes? Two ministers from the same Min­ istry have given contradictory replies. SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN; The hon. Member is referring to I think you should protect. Mem­ certain normal schemes of plan etc., bers who are seeking clarification. about which I have no information. 27 Oral Answers FEBRUARY 23, 197$ Oral Answers 2&

SHRI S. R DAMANI; I 8m %ot have laid down certain sectors for referring to the Plan schemes, but allocation of money It depends upon the actual expenditure on those MR SPEAKER The hon Member sectors. has gone beyond the scope of the mam questions SHRI P G MAVALANKAR Be- foie I ask tny supplementary ques­ SHRI PILOO MODY From what I tion, may I seek one clarification understand what I study, the famines trom the hon Minister7 In his in Maharashtra and Gujarat are both ougmal leply, he has said that Rs 49 equally serious and of the same and odd crores had been released to magnitude, ana it is a litmendoush Maharashtra, but the press reports great problem which both Govern­ today say that it is Rs 74 and odd ments are facing, but from the figures crores What is the discrepancy due which I have seen so far, I find that to’ something like Rs 44 crores or Rs. 45 crores has been released to the Gov­ ernment of Maharashtra while only SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN something like Rs 3 5 crores to Rs 4 The discrepancy is between the crores lias been released to the Gov­ amount which is sanctioned and the ernment of Gujarat amount which is released These are two different thmgs Allocation is SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA one thing and the actual release is Only Rs 15 crores another thing

SHRI PILOO MODY I would like SHRI P G MAVALANKAR The to know why this sor* of discrepancy pi ess ieportt) say that it was Rs 74 has crept in into the release of funds7 and odd crores

AN HON MEMBER Not discre­ SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN pancy but disci immation Let him go by my reports Why should he go by press reports’ SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN. There is no discrepancy As a matter SHRI P G MAVALANKAR of fact normally the amounts are Having got this clanflcation, I would released on the basis of expenditure ask whether it is a fact that although actually incurred and the reports that the situation m Gujaiat is almost as are received That does not mean berious —undoubtedly, it is very that there is going to be seiiou^ in Ma'harashtra—as in Mal^a- rashtia Central assistance is not SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA forthcoming to Gujarat because of Whit is the authorisation’ Is there the lack of political pressure in Delhi any authorisation for a higher m the Congress circles, because of amount’ Less expenditure might have the fact that there are no persons been incuried, but what is the and pulls m the Centre to agitate for authorised amount? more assistance to the State? SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN Authorisation by the State Govern­ I have assured the Government of ment Gujarat and I can assure this hon SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: House fhat whatever be the necessary By the Central Government requirements of Gujarat in regard to tackling the drought situation there— SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: as a matter of fact, not only in By the Central Government? We (have Gujarat but anywhere in & e laid devn certain criteria and we country—so far an the suffering of the 29 Oral Answers PHALGUNA 4,1894 (SAKA) Oral Answers

people is concerned, whatever be the MR. SPEAKER: Order please. Please difficulties, we will certainly stand by sit down. Why are you disturbing the the people. House? D0 not make it a practice. Please sit down, all of you. Do not SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZAL- try to do like this. Pi/RKAR- In view of the fact that there U a serious drought situation SHRI ANNASAHEB GOTKHINDE: in Mysore affecting the districts of In view of the fact that whatever the Gulbarga, Bidar, Raichur, Bijapur, allot ation to the Maharashtra Govern­ Balgaum «nd Dharwar___ ment i( hys been ppent properly by thc Maharashtra Government, and in view 3VLR SPEAKER- rIne question is of the £>'.t that hundieds of people about Mahaiashtra and Gujarat. are migrating to the cities because Iheie is no water m most of the vil­ SHRI G VISWANATHAN: Mysore lages there, may I know Irora the mutt also be allowed. Government whether they are going to give more allocations for drinking MR SPEAKER. I have asked him water puipoj.es,, for the expenditure to to sit down. (Interruptions). Do not be met by the State Government on get excited at every stage. this behalf’ SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: VV'* • TOT if l Well, I cannot give any particular iff qr?r f m ft i ( wstft) pi o’ iiSe ah ut it I have generally gnon indication of the savings and SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: A full- the release of money according to the fledged discussion should be allowed basis ot expenditure. on this Here, may I request you to permit MR. SPEAKER: Theie are so many me to s\v one thing’ I do not want members getting up from other States any Member from any State to feel that their problems are not looked besides Maharashtxa and Gujarat. after, say, Madhya Pradesh or Ra'jas- than— (Interruption). SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRT It is everywhere. AN IION MEMBER. Mysore.

SHRI H. M. PATEL: The Chief SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: Minister of Gujarat stated in the Mysore also. State legislature that his request for famine relief has been

SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: MR SPEAKER: Order please. Exactly. That statement is there. In SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: the sccond team, we will go into this I will put a very relevant question. particular matter. Give me a chance.

SHRI R. S. PANDEY: Please allow MR SPEAKER: I know that you a discussion on this. Half the country always put a very relevant question. is suffering from drought. SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH: MR. SPHAKER: I am giving first The Minister was suggesting some­ chance to members fiom Maharashtra thing. We could not hear him pro­ and Gujarat Shri Gotkhinde. perly. 31 Oral Answers FEBRUARY 23* 1973 Oral Answers 32

MR. SPEAKER: I have not been that he has certain information for able to bear him myself. which I say I will allot some separate time for discussion, because I see, be­ SHRI P. VENKATASUBBATAH: Let sides Members from Maharashtra and him complete it. Gujarat, several others from other States are also affected by it. I see MR. SPEAKER: Let him tell us. many of the hon. Members standing.

SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: There was a feeling as if we are giv­ I have got a statement. (Interrup­ ing information about some States and tion). not giving the information about others. (Interruption). Please listen, MR. SPEAKER; For the present, Mr. Sathe. Let us not be technical let him make the statement. about it, because it is not right to have a feeling in the minds of some Mem­ bers that they do not get a reply. I SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: have got some information here, During 1972-73, up to 22nd February, because, the drought conditions that so far as the ceiling and the releases are prevailing— (Interruption). are concerned, I have got informa­ tion about some States. For example, SHRI P. M. MEHTA: Sir, I take it for natural calamity; drought and that you do not allow any Member to cyclone in Andhra, the State ask a question which does not arise Government’s estimate by way of from the subject mentioned in the grants and loans was Rs. 74 crores question. If you have allowed such and 7 for cyclone; the ceilings on ex­ questions, then I submit that it should tent of damage for the purpose of become a precedent in future also. Central Assistance by the Ministry (Interruption). of Finance was Rs. 28 crores, and 71 lakhs for cyclone. In the case of SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS rose- Assam it was Rs. 4 crores and 72 crores. In the case of Bihar it was MR, SPEAKER: Please sit down. I Rs. 30 crores and 30.4 crores. In the see so many Members rising. (Inter- case of Gujarat it was 6.9 crores; in ruption). Sit down, please, Mr. Mehta. the case of Kerala it was 1.27 crores. What I propose is this. There are so For Madhya Pradesh unfortunately it many Members interested in this; not is not indicated; but a Central team only those from Gujarat and Maha­ has been asked lo assess the situation rashtra but others from other States and its report is awaited.. .. (As Hon, also. In that case, when this question Member; what about Mysore?) For is very important, I will fix some time Mysore the ceiling which was accep­ to be given for this. ted was 7.75: in addition to that I have also agreed provisionally to re­ SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH; Let lease Rs. 10 crores, out of which him give the information. nearly Rs. 8 crores had been released already. * SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: About the drought situation, he may sfrvrt wtwt : ^ reply. (Interruption).

MR. SPEAKER: I have already said this is not something which is going SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: out of the way. I have said it. But Rajasthan? For this year it was R&. If he gives some information, I will 6,80 crores; Tamil Nadu—Ra. 1J allot time for discussion on this. It is crores; U. P. Rs. 8.10 croros; West Ben­ not in reply to those questions; he gal Rs. 10.8 crores and Orissa Bs. 14.8 lias independently got up; he said crores___ (Interruptions). 33 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 34 PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE. Statement Some of us have demanded a discus­ A survey of investments of sche­ sion on the statement of the Food Mi­ duled commercial banks is conducted nister ton the drought situation. by the Reserve Bank of India as on SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: 31st March every year. The latest survey for which information has been Sir, in Maharashtra___ published relates to the year ended MR. SPEAKER: The time is over. 31st March, 1971. The details of this survey are contained in the Reserve SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA: Bank of India's bulletin for Novem­ At least you kindly hear. The situa­ ber, 1972. tion has deteriorated so much that 2. The survey covers investments in lakhs of people who could not get food Central and State Government securi­ in the villages go to the cities and ties, other trustee securities, 3hares the traders and the black-marketeers and debentures of joint stock compa­ are taking advantage and they are nies, fixed deposits with banks etc. of being employed at half the wage in scheduled commercial banks in India the towns and cities. Not only that, and those of Indian secheduled com­ workers who are already working on mercial banks offices in foreign coun­ Rs. 8 a day are being froced to work tries. Some of the important findings on Rs. 3 a day in Bombay city; il is of this survey are under the Congress rule; here is ^lso the Congress Government and Mr. (a) The total investments of the Chavan is the Finance Minister. The scheduled commercial banks including situation has so much deteriorated. the Indian Banks' offices abroad am­ ounted to Rs.1871 crores as on 31sl MR. SPEAKER The Question Hour March, 1971 The increase in invest­ is over. ments during the year under review was higher at Rs. 284 crores compared to an increase of only Its. 176 crores in the preceding year. (b) Between end March, 1970 and WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS end March, 1971 there was a fall in the proportion of investments in cent­ Conducting of survey by R.B.T on the ral Government securities and a rise pattern of investment of scheduled in the proportion of investments in commercial banks State Government and “other trustee securities” ; and *66. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN: (c) The maturity pattern of invest­ THAM: Will the Minister of FINANCE ments m Government securities be pleased to state: showed a shift from short and medi­ um term securities to long term secu­ (a) whether the Reserve Bank of rities between end March, 1970 ind India had recently conducted a sur­ end Match, 1971. vey on the pattern of investment of scheduled commercial banks; and Rise in Prices (b) if so, the salient features of the findings of that survey? *67. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: SHRI M. M. JOSEPH: Will the Minister 0f FINANCE be THE MINISTER OF FINANCE pleased to state: (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): (a) whether his attention has been

17th January, 1973 under the caption (b) the difficulties which lie in the] “Sky rocketing prices—consumers may way of Government in not enforcing] erupt any time”; and these arrangements; •

(b) If so, the reaction of Govern­ (c) the steps taken by Government] ment thereto? to cut down the private imporers’ high] profits in this trade; and THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (d) the stage at which the Indo- (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): Iran trade agreement for the import^ (a) Yes, Sir. The Economic Times of dry fruits stands? dated the 17th January, 1973 published a report under the caption skyrocket­ THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE] ing prices—consumers may except any (PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA):! time. The report relates to the retail (a) to (c). The matter is under active | prices of some selected consumer goods consideration. in Bombay. (d) The Indo-Iran Trade Agreeme which expired on the 10th Decembe^ (b) Government is concerned over 1972 has been extended until the lOthj the rising trend of prices at retail of March. level. In order to check such a price rise, the remedy lies in strengthening the machinery for distribution of es­ qf5TI7T 7 2 H v? f m sential goods. The State Government are taking appropriate steps in that di­ rection. However, the problem of ^ JTf rising prices is essentially linked with shortages of essential goods particu­ larly foodgrains. On its part, the * 6 9 . Central Government has taken various steps to ease the pressure on prices, particularly those of essential consu­ ( ^ ) t r f w ‘72’ 5JTNK %% irj mer goods. These measures include a crash programme for increasing rabi ^ 5RT ^ SRfwl production, sizeable imports of food- grains and edible oils/oilseeds, streng­ w r TRR # Jit I; thening of price and distribution cont­ >0 C \ ^ N .. / rols in the case of sugar and control­ («a‘) led varieties of cloth, enlargement of the public distribution system and ffTKt sirNR stepping up releases of foodgrains from |?TT the Government stocks, curbing spe­ culative activities and mopping up (^ ) W ^ ^ oJITTTR excess demand through monetary and fiscal measures. w r I ?

Progress made in Canalising Dry (^', o Fruit Trade through S.T.C. : (^) 4. 18 ^0 1

*68. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA; ( ^ ) ^ 5 V p r d Will the Minister of COMMERCE be STRR ^ ^ wRuim I, pleased to state: cTSTT ^ J (a) the progress made so far in 5ZTPTR ^TRTSff ^ gSTHTIT | I canalising the dry fruit trade through the State Trading Corporation; (»r) ^33^ I 37 Written Answers PH ALCTNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 38

Pnder-invoicin* and Over-invoicing by (b) Green and Nickles Ltd., Lon­ Tatas, Birias and Group of Sahu-Jaiu don. Industries 2 Bu la A. G., Zug, Switzerland. *70. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI' 3 Thi» Tiading Engineeiing Agencies Will the Minister of COMMERCE bo Corporation, Geneva (now named pleased to state: as Jyoti S A , Switzerland). 4. Tt adei s International Inc, Wash* (a) the names and the location of xngton, U S.A. the Companies of TATAS, BIRLAS and SAHU-JAIN Group of Industries 5. Hongkong Commeicial Hous* which are in foreign countries; and Ltd., Hongkong. 6. India Malaysia Textiles, Bcihad. (b) the steps Government have taken to check them from doing over (b) The subsidiaries of Tatas, Birias invoicing and undeT-invoicing? and Sahu-Jain Group of Industries are non-resident for foreign exchange THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE control purposes and are not subject (PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA): to the provisions applicable to resi­ (a) and (b). A statement giving in­ dents Remedial action would, how­ formation regarding the location of the ever, be taken as and when instances companies of TATAS and BIRLAS in of malpractices come to the notice of foreign countries and the steps taken, the Government. in general, by Government to check 2. Government are, however, seized the problem of over-invoicing and of the general problems of under-in- under-invoicing is laid on the Table of voicing and over-invoicing and have the House. The information regarding taken specific steps from time to tnae SAHU-JAIN Group of Industries is to solve the problem. In pursuance of not readily available and will be laid the recommendation of the Public on the Table of the House as soon as Accounts Committee contained in para­ possible. graph 1 55 in the 56th Report of 1988- 69, a Study Team was formed to study Statement the problem of manipulation of foreign (a) The names and location of the exchange through over-invoicing and Companies incorporated abroad in under-invoicmg and for making re which TATAS and BIRLAS have a commondations for preventing such majority or complete share holding are malpractices. The Report of the Stud} as follows:— Team was laid before the Parliament in November, 1971. Tata Croup: 3. In pursuance of the acceptance of 1. Tata Incorporated, New York, the recommendations, action is in hand U.S.A. to amend suitably the various Acts, 2. Tata Limited, London. such as Customs Act. Foreign Ex­ 3. Tata International AG, Switzer­ change Regulations Act, Central Ex­ land. cise and Salt Act, Gold (Control) Act, Import and Export Trade Control Acts, 4. Tata Sundamerica SA. Argentina, Passport Act, etc. In fact, Foreigr set up to bid for soda ash plant. Exchange Regulations Bill, incorpo­ 5. Joint Venture—Unitata Sdn. Bhd., rating the desired amendments, was Malasia. introduced during the last Session of Pailiament. The Bill seeking amend­ Birla Group: ment of Customs Act, Central Excise 1. The East India Produce Co. Ltd., and Salt Act, Gold (Control) Act is London—Subsidiaries— also before Parliament. (a)The American East India Cor* 4. Government decisions have al* poration, New York, U.S.A ready been taken on the bulk of the W ritten Answers FEBRUARY 28, 1978 Written Answers 40 recommendations. A few of the re­ consortium of Indian manufacturers commendations are still Under consi­ to set up large sized 'joint ventures in deration of the Ministry of Finance in other countries; consultation with the Reserve Bank ol (b) if so, the reaction of the Fede­ India, Central Bureau of Investigation, ration of Indian Chamber of Com­ and the concerned Departments/Min­ merce and Industry and various indus­ istries. trialists in -this regard; and Stay of Officers in Central Excise and (c) whether any scheme has been Customs Department at one place worked out as regards the countries where such joint ventures are likely *71. SHRI MOHANRAJ KALINGA- to be set up? RAYAR: Will the Minister of FIN* THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE ANCE be pleased to state: (PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA): (a) whether any period of stay at (a) There is no proposal before the one place for Deputy Collector, Cen­ Government for the formation of a tral Excise and Customs has beep consortium of Indian manufacturers to prescribed; set up joint ventures abroad. (b) if so, the duration of the period; (b) and (c). Do not arise. and Beeline in India's Foreign Exchange (c) whether some of the officers, Reserves who had been transferred out of Delhi on promotion in 1970, have been •73. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHARIEF: brought back to Delhi, although they Will the Minister of FINANCE be had not stayed in their posts for even pleased to state; three years and appointed against posts (a) whether India’s Foreign Ex­ carrying Special Pay? change Reserves are likely to decline by th end of March-April, 1973; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. R (b) if so, the assessment regarding GANESH): (a) and (b). No period as the balances of payments position in such ha® been prescribed although the 1973 and the reaction of Government Deputy Collectors are usually trans­ thereto? ferred after a stay of three years at THE MINISTER OF FINANCE one place. (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): (c) There are several instances (a) Yes, Sir. where officers promoted to the rank (b) The position of the balance ot of Deputy Collector in 1970 had to be payments in 1973 is likely to be a transferred before completing a stay matter of concern. Its viability would of three years to special pay posts at greatly depend on our ability to Delhi. These include one officer who speedily expand the domestic produc­ having been posted out of Delhi on tion in critical sectors so as to reduce promotion as a Deputy Collector in the pressure on imports, expansion of April, 1970 was transferred to Delhi exports and implementation of import in December, 1972 to a special pa\> substitution programmes. post. Production and Requirements of Consortium of Indian Manufactured Natural Rubber for setting up Joint Venture Abroad *75. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN: *72. SHRI H. M. PATEL: Will the Will the Minister of COMMERCE be Minister of COMMERCE be pleased pleased to state: to state: (a) whether we are reaching near (a) whether Government have de- self-sufficiency in the matter of to encourage the formation of a natural rubber production; 4 i Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SA K A ) Written Answers 42

(b) the present requirement of (b) if so, the extent of decline; and rubber and its indigenous production; (c) the reasons for the decline? and (c) the quantity of rubber we are THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE importing now and the position during (PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA >• the last three years? (a> No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF COMMERCE (b) and (c). Do not arise. (PROF. D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA): (a) Yes, Sir. SrTr? (b) It is estimated that during the f TTT SPTJ*. W m year 1972-73 the rubber industry as a whole would consume 1,05,000 tonnes of natural rubber as against the esti­ mated production of 1,13,000 tonnes. (c) The quantity of natural rubber Wj (*P) ®RT 1973 % (Hevea) imported during the last 3 *r *tth sfaflrr years is as below:— ^rr srfrrfkfeWvT 1969-70 . . 13,562 tonnes f^RT *TT; 1970-71 . • 1,824 tonnes (?j) m v t l arm 1971-72 . • 405 tonnes forr «rr % Exemption of Gratuity from Income- Tax *76 SHRI B. K. DASCHOW- DHURY: (*t) nfk ^r, eft ijw SHRI M. S. SIVASWAMY: «n# w % Will the Minister of DEFENCE be pleased to state: wsrfgf^TT | ? (a) whether Government have few

(c) what steps have been taken to (b) whether Government have increase bank advances to agricultural rejected it; and sector? (c) if so, the reasons for the THE MINISTER OF FINANCE rejection? (&HHI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): (a) to (c). A Statement is laid on THE MINISTER OF FINANCE the Table of the Sabha. (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): (a) to (c). A few suggestions about Statement an enquiry into the working of the Even though it may not be correct Reserve Bank of India had been made to say that only 5 to 6 per cent of the in the discussions in certain meet­ total advances made by comemreial ings. The Government does not banks go to agriculture, the percent­ consider it necessary to appoint a age of agricultural lending in the Commission to enquire into the work­ total advances macle by banks is on ing of the Reserve Bank of India. the law side. As against 5.2 per cent in June 1969, the percentage has now Profit earned by Khadi Gramodyog risen to only 8 per cent as on 30t’n Bhavan, New Delhi June 1972. <301. SHRI VEKAR1A- Among the main reasons responsible DR. MAHIPATRAY MEHTA: for this is the lack of experienced and trained personnel in the commercial Will the Minister of COMMERCE banks to deal with agricultural lend­ be pleased to state; ing. The banks give credit facilities to farmers in relation to their needs (a) whether the profits earned by and their capacity to meet part of the the Khadi Gramodyog, New Delhi costs out of their own savings. It is, after the Indo-Chinese War of 1962 therefore, unavoidable that farmers were credited to the Workers Benefit with larger holding will get some­ Reserve Fund; what larger amounts. However, the (b) if so, the amounti credited to number of accounts in respect of small the Reserve Fund till now sincc 1962; borrowers owning up to 5 acres of land each is about the same as that (c) whether this amount instead of of bigger farmers covered by public being distributed amongst the sector banks. workers has now been credited to the The banks have been taking several Capital Account of the Bhavan; and steps to improve the situation by (d) if so, the reasons therefor and extending their organisational machi­ the manner in wnieh this fund is nery as also by simplifying proce­ proposed to be ultimately utilised? dures. The banks are now adopting area approach to agricultural lending THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE and in some cases they are adopting MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI primary cooperative societies for A C. GEORGE): (a) Yes, Sir. extending credit facilities to the far­ mers. (b) Rupees one lakh sixty thousand only. Demand made for inquiry Into the working of Reserve Bank of India (c) and (d). This amount was trans­ ferred to Head Office through Capital *80. SHRI P. A. SAMINATHAN: Account in order to pool net surpluses SHRI R. S. PANDEY: or deficits of all Trading Units of the Will the Minister of FINANCE Commission and to finance activities be pleased to state: for the welfare of the workers from (a) whether there is a demand for part of net surpluses, in the Central the setting up ol an inquiry into the Office. On the advice ot its Financial working of the Reserve Bank of India; Adviser the Commission decided thdt 45 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 46

Tiadmg Units of the Commission Chandivi4l*a Award in relations to needed only prov <5 ons and no Rhidi Gramodyog Bhavan, New Delhi reserves 604 SHRI DHAN SHAH PRAD­ Conversion of Dearness Allowance HAN * Will the Minister of into House Kent Allowance in Khadi COMMERCE be pleased to state the Gramodyog Bhavan, New Delhi progiess made so far m the matter of implementation of Chandiwalla b02 SHKI VEKARIA Will the Award in relation to the Khadi Minister of COMMERCE be pleased Bha\ an New Delhi’ to state THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ( 1 ) whether the Dearness Allow­ MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI ance paid to the workers of the Khadi A C GEORGE) Implementation of Gramodyog Bhavan New Delhi was the Chandiwalla Award has been converted into House Rent Allowance, completed except for the follow mg and which have yet to be settled

( ) Implementation of Second (b) if so, the leasons therefor’ I Pay Commission recommen­ dations, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OP COMMERCE (SHRI (II) Fmalisation of Seniority list, A C GEORGE) (a) No, Sir and

(b) Does not arise (in) Extension of Gratuity Benefit

Gratuity to the Employees of Khadi Application of Second Pay Commission Gramodyog Bhavan, New Delhi Recommendation in Khadi Gramodyog Bhavan, New Delhi 603 SHRI DHAN SHAH PRADHAN 605 SHKI DHAN SHAH PRA­ DHAN Will the Minister of Will the Minister of COMMERCE COMMERCE be pleased to state txj pleased to state (a) the progress made so far in tho (a) the latest position regarding matter of application of the Second the giant of Gratuity to the employees Pav Commissions lecommendations to of the Khadi Gramodyog Bhavan, the staff of the Khadi Gramodyog Nett Delhi run by* the Khadi and Bba\an, New Delhi, Village Industries Commission, and (b) whether the final decision would be taken before the announcement of (b) when the final decision is likely the Thud Pay Commission’s Repoit, to be taken on this long-standing and demand of the staff of the Khadi Bhavan? (c) if not, the reasons therefore’

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A C GEORGE) (a) and (b) It has A C GEORGE)* (a) to (c) The recently been decided to extend the information is being collected and Gratuity Scheme to the trading staff will be laid on the Table of the House. of the « Commission. 47 'Written Answer* FEBRUARY 28, 1873 Written Answers 4$

Theft la Khadi Gnm odyof Bhavan, (b) the total amount spent during New DeEU the period under the following heads:

606. DR MAHIPATRAY MEHTA: (I) Establishment of the Commis­ Will the Minister of COMMERCE be sion; pleased to refer to the reply*given (II) Establishment of the various to Unstarred Question No. 51&1 on the Khadi Bhavans; 20th December, 1972 regarding theft m Khadi Gramodyog Bhavan, New (III) Travelling Allowances of the Delhi and state: Commission's Chairman, Members, Officers and Staff; (a) the stage at which the investi­ and gation into the loss of money in the safe of the Khadi Bihavan, New Delhi, (iv) T A paid to Staff of the stands, Khadi Bhavans? (b) the action taken to recover the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE amount from the delinquent officials, MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI and A C GEORGE)- (a) and (b) The (c) the remedial measures taken to information is being collected and will prevent recurrence of such thefts of be laid on the Table of the House Bhavan’s cash’ Post of Manager in Khadi Gramodyog Bhavan, New Delhi THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI 608 DR MAHIPATRAY MEHTA: A C GEORGE)- (a) Reports on Will the Minister ot COMMERCE be police investigations and departmen­ pleased to state tal enquiry are still awaited by the Commission (a) whether the Khadi Gramodyog Bhavan, Now Delhi has recently (b) Does not arise at this stage m advertised tor the post of a Manager view of (a) above m the scale of Rs 700—1100, and (c) Arrangements have been (b) if so, the number of applications finalised to "open a collection account received and the manner m which the with the evening branch of the State selection was made? Bank of India at Connaught Circus for depositing these collections on the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE same day in the Bank Two largo MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI sized steel safes have been provided A C GEORGE)- (a) Yes, Sir. for keeping remaining cash collections, (b) IS applications have been if any, of the day from the safety received and a selection will be made point of view. through interviews toy the Services Board Allotment and Expenditure of Funds In KVJ.C. Washing Allowance to the Staff of Gramodyog Bhavan, New Delhi 607. DR. MAHIPATRAY MEHTA: 609 DR. MAHIPATRAY MEHTA* Will the Minister of COMMERCE be Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: pleased to state: (a) the total amount of funds (a) whether with the in allotted to the Khadi and Village the price of the Khadi cloth supplied Industries Commission during the last to the workers of the Khadi Bhavan, three years viz., 1970-71, 1971-72 and Government propose to increase the 1972-73; and existing ceiling limit of washing 49 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SA K A ) Written Answers 50 charge Rs. 3/- p.m. in view of the Relief to West Bengal Textile Industry mounting rise in the charges; and 611. SHRI BISHWANATH JHUN- (b) if not, the reasons therefor? JHUNWALA: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (a) whether the cotton mill owners of West Bengal have to pray annually A. C. GEORGE): (a) No, Sir. nearly one crore ot rupees for getting (b) Washing allowance rate in the cotton from other cotton growing Bhavans run by the Commission is areas; higher than the rate applicable to (b) whether this heavy cost of Class IV employees of the Commission transportation added to the cost of by one rupee per month per head. production makes the cloth produced in West Bengal less competitive even Discussions with Foreign Minister of in the internal market in the country; France on Bilateral tissues (c) whether the industry has re­ 610. SHRI RAGHUNANDAN I*AL peatedly pointed out to Government BHATIA: Will the Minister of this handicap and have urged for COMMERCE be pleased to state: rationalisation of price structure for the West Bengal cotton mills, and (a) whether the Foreign Minister of France had detailed talks with (d) whether Government have con­ India on bilateral trade in December, sidered this matter and if so, the steps 1972; proposed to give relief to West Bengal Textile industries? (b) if so, what were the subjects discussed and what conclusions were THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE arrived at; and MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A. C GEORGE)- (a) to (d). Represen­ (c) which members of the Euro­ tations have been received that the Cotton textile mills of West Bengal pean Economic Community have have to pay extra freight on trans­ agreed in principle to facilitate portation of cotton from the cotton arrangements for increased trade bet­ growing centres of the country which ween India and the E.E.C. on the comparatively adds to the cost of pro­ initiative of French Foreign Minister duction. The matter was considered and what is the nature thereof? in a meeting taken by the then Minis­ ter of Foreign Trade with the Chief THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Ministers of the concerned States on MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI 13th January, 1973. It has been de­ A. C. GEORGE): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. cided to set up a Committee under The Annual indo-French bilateral the Chairmanship of the Secretary talks took place in New Delhi on 5th (Commerce) to go into the matter in and 6th of December, 1972. The detail. French delegation was led by Mr. Andere Bettencourt, Minister delegate Joint Indo-BangladeSh Jute Price to the Minister of Foreign of France. Policy The Indian delegation was led by the 612. SHRI BISHWANATH JHUN- Minister of External Affairs. These JHUNWALA: Will the Minister of consultations covered a wide range of COMMERCE be pleased to state: subjects including Indo-French bila­ teral relations in the political, (a) whether Jute Brokers' Associa­ economic fields etc. Such bila­ tion has urged upon Government to teral consultations are confidential in evolve a joint-Bangladesh jute price nature and it is not customary to policy to face global competition and disclose the details of the discussions. also competition from synthetics; Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1073 Written Answers

(b) whether the association has period upto which the Commission also suggested for joint research in will confine its recommendations? jute between the two countries so that the competitiveness of Indian THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and Bangladesh jute could be aug­ MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. mented; and R. GANESH): Under the terms of re­ ference of the Third Pay Commission (c) whether Government have con­ it is open to the Commission to devise sidered these suggestions and if so, its own procedure for carrying out its the stops proposed to be taken m this work. The Commission has its own regard? arrangements for collection of infor­ mation regarding the trends in the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE consumer price index level from time MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI to time The question of Government A. C. GEORGE): (a) and (b) The giving advice to the Commission in President of the Jute Brokers Asso­ this regard does not arise. The index ciation had made suggestions for co­ level to which the Commission’s re­ operation between India and Bangla­ commendations may be related, will desh, in hrs speech at the Annual bo known when the final report of the General Meeting of the Association Commission becomes available. held on 16th December, 1972. (c) A joint Indo-Bangladesh Study srwrrar Group on Jute Co-operatjon has been set up with a view to promoting the b is . : w r efforts of both the countries to pro­ tect the interest of jute and jute manufactures in the world economy (^ ) farfta apf 1970-71 Depreciation of value of Rupee 1971-72 % ^TFT W ^ W>T *TT*TR STRTTcT 1%*TT *PCT; 613 SHRI BISHWANATII JHUN- JHUNWALA: Will the Minister of (m) swifdcr Sf t o t FINANCE be pleased to state to what extent the value of rupee has depre­ ciated in December, 1972 as compared to its value some five year ago7 (*) 1972-73 % ^ *T +1 W«i >srr £ ? THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): The purchasing power of the rupee (measured in terms of the All-India iTojfto-jrrcf) :( v ) 1 9 7 0 - 7 1 Industrial Workers’ Consumer Price *r*TT 1 9 7 1 -7 2 % ^TFT ^ Index, with base (1949=100), has fallen from 46 7 paise in December wn4yrrr *rRr 34>t 4ar*rr an?rr % : 1967 to 39 2 paise in December 1972 i.e . by 16 per cent.

Pay Commission's Recommendations 1970-71 * 106.13 on Price Rise 1971-72 * 81.66 614. SHRI BISHWANATH JHUN- JHUNWALA: Will the Minister of (*sr) qtfspw w* vmfvRr FINANCE be pleased to state whether «JOT ft# WT :sTcnPsFX, the Pay Commission has been asked to take into consideration the price rise till the end of 1972 and if not the ?wt ^iw > ?ffaT» tftwr 53 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 54

^■Wid ^ ^>FT3T, iT«r?: ffafiiT % qfT^T^?r ^ ^ 'dy?i T ? ^TRcT Sf 1970-71 ^'i'5?nn ^ 1971-72 sW rT ^ ^ Tft 'TfC- iftlFmff % ' T ^ ^ I 6 1 7. I^JT spejmjr : ( it) ylRijd % ?n-«r WT ?fk 5TT5n: Tf^i' ^ 5JTFTR: % STTOR, 1973 % ^TPT # fj'Tr % ; ^ ^ ?fwr 152 ^pdf ^0 :iT^ % w % ?n w 1%% 5TT^ # ?r«TTW I I (^ ) w ijqT wf^zrr % 1972-73 (5r^-?iw) % ?kFT 1970-71 ^ I f^ d ^ W " ^ ?TPTTcrf ^ f^ ^ > r 1971-72 Jr ?rfsr^ ffe . c \ 38. 94 I I f t I ;

(g-) q-f? it, ^ft^TT tr?T^ if ?ftT 616. >SfT[ : w r ^fw-ir 5q^ 8 fePRT, 1972 % ( it) srq'^r ildKiP+d sm ifrWT 3550 % % frft' TT ^STT sr«TT^ T ? ^Tf^sr t Iff f% ; ?flfT ?mR (5T° ( ^ ) w f? r “ 4|iNTd+i” % fn^) ; ( ^ ) (’a')- I; ^if 1970-71 ^ 5 ^ ^r ^ 1971­ (g-) JTfe ^ nRuim' 7 2 if tr^TT ^F^irr % R'fc^nrw^ s w ^f i 6 .i^"tffe|fi w^^rrq-^rnmli

( ’T) W f ® ?r?F ff 5f p n Ifsr^, ^ fiflT+Wd 5TRT f t I % tP r ^ sr^TT yfrrrf^RT ^ I sr?%^T % Tn#Rrf i:TTr wwrxt ^rFFir w r I ; ?fk (it) 1970-71 ^ 4. 58 ^ Jf 1971-72 (^ ) 2Tf? fi-, ?ft fw tR T Jf f%q- Jf ^nr 0 . 7 8 ^'Tit ?tt i Tifeff ^ fw ^mr I ? Seizure of Third Party goods by Col- lectorate of Central Excise Madurai 3rif»r5if ^csTTarir ^ («r1f qo ?rlo 3rr4) : ( ^ ) ^ i 618. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: Will the Minister of FINANCE be (? ? ) 5T??r ^ I pleased to refer to the reply given to USQ No. 5426 on the 22nd Decem­ (jt) 5ftr (^). I irmtq-^RFT ber, 1972 regarding seizure of Third «ft pTR- = ^ f ^ ’f^ 11^ sr^ Party goods by Collectorate of Cen­ tral Excise, Madurai and state; i9 72$rg;wrg^WTTW WFiV ^ ftr+wd f^iwT ^ «{t I (a) the difficulties which lay in not laying the requisite information on ^ ^ ^ ^ I, %T Jf the Table along with the reply; and ^ ftr+T'Md t (b) whether he would now lay it arfe^lf % TTR- g^TFIT ^ f k l I on the Table? 55 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1073 Written Answers $6 THE MINISTER OF STATEIN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI R. GANESH): (a) and (b). While A. C. GEORGE): (a) Yes Sir. giving reply to Unstarred Question (b) USSR, Czechoslovakia Poland, No. 5426 on the 22nd December, 1972, Sweden, Spain, Australia, USA, Iran it was expected that it would be pos­ Holland. West-Germany, Kuwait, sible for the Department of Parlia­ U.K. etc. mentary Affairs to lay the requisite information on the Table of the House (c) These are only export orders. -during the last Session of the Sabha itself. This unfortunately was not (d) Bicycles and parts, Refri­ possible at that Session but the need­ gerators, Vaccum flasks, ' Medical fu l has since been done on the 22nd Instruments, Garrage equipments, February, 1973. hand-tools, Alarm clocks, Brake-sole & cast iron, Fencing components, Industrial fastners, stainless steel X

(b) the amount of loan which ia (c) Fifty wagon sets sub-assem­ expected to be sanctioned to the em­ blies for assembly in Yugoslavia and ployees for the aforesaid purpose one Prototype assembled wagon have during 1972-73? so far been shipped. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (d) During 1973, it is expected that THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE approximately 1550 wagons will be (SHRI K. R. GANESH): (a) The in­ shipped in semi-knocked down con­ formation has to be collected from dition for delivery after assembly in all the Ministries | Departments of the Yugoslavia. Centra] Government and will be laid on the Table of the House as soon Wagons from Poland as possible. 625. SHRI RAMKANWAR: Will (b) The Budget Estimates for the Minister of COMMERCE be plea­ 1972-73 contained a provision of sed to state: Rs. 16.44 crores for loans to Central (a) whether Poland has offered to Government employees, which was buy a large number of Railway intended to cover, besides purchase Wagons from India; of all kinds of conveyances like motor-cars scooters, motor-cycles (b) if so, the number of wagons and bicycles, other items like pur­ proposed to be bought; and chase of fans, warm clothings etc. In­ formation regarding the estimated (c) how much foreign exchange expenditure on account of loans for consequently is likely to be earned the purchase of scooters and cars by the country? alone, m the light of the demands THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE during the year 1972-73 is not MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI readily available and ha«s to be col­ A. C. GEORGE): (a) Yes, Sir. lected from all the Ministries (De­ partments Th.s is being done and the (n) and (c.) The deal is still at information will be laid on the Table negotiation stage. of the House as soon as possible. World Bank Assistance for Irrigation Project in Bihar Supply of Wagons to Yugoslavia 626. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI: 624. SHRI P. A. SWAMINATHAN- Will the Minister of FINANCE be SHRI RAM SHEKHAR pleased to state: PRASAD SINGH: (a) whether Government have re­ Will the Minister of COMMERCE quested the World Bank to give finan­ be pleased to state: cial help to Bihar and Chhota-nagpur, specially for irrigation projects; and (a) whether first batch of wagons has left for Belgrade; (b) if so, the broad outlines of the request made? (b) whether Yugoslavia had placed a massive order for supply of THE MINISTER OF FINANCE 3,600 wagons; (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN> (a) A proposal for obtaining a de­ (c) if so, how many wagons have velopment credit from international so far been supplied; and Development Association (IDA), the (d) how many will be supplied soft-loan affiliate of the World Bank, during this year? for an agricultural credit project com­ prising certain districts of North Bihar THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE and Gandak Command Area is present­ MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI ly under consideration. The proposal A. C. GEORGE): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. has not yet been appraised by the IDA 59 Written Answer® FEBRUARY 28, 1073 W ritten Answer*

No proposal lor a credit for any irri­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE gation Project ia under Consideration. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A C. GEORGE): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) The proposed project is likely to cover on—farm development (pro­ (b) The export earnings on the visioning ot tubewellg pumps-set, agri­ basis of the obligation wculd depend cultural implements etc), and levelling upon the levels of production of cot­ and development of fisheries and ton textiles during 1973. In view of orchards. tlie prevailing power-cuts which may affect production, it is difficult to in­ Loan from World Bank for Rajasthan dicate any specific level of export Canal earnings Research in Man-made Fibres 027 SHRI LALJT BHA1 Will the Minister of FINAMCL be i lea od lo (529 SHRI P M MEHTA state. SHRI P GANGADEB (a) whether World Bank has been Will the Minis lot of COMMERCE ask>»d to grant loan lor completion be pleased to state of Rajasthan canal, and (a) whether about 80 pei cent of (b) if soj the amount asked foi’ the people aie using cotton instead of man-made fibres in the country, 1 HE MINISTER Ot< FINANCE (SHRI YLSHWANiRAO CHAVAN) (b) whether Govern-nonl aic consi­ (a) Government oi India have ap- dering a ptoposal to bt’ild Research ptoached the Int nna^ional dcvolop- Centit foi canymg out intensive re- ment As ociat on (which iq part oi seaich m man-made fibres., if so, the tha World Bank Oruap) foi a credit broad outlines, and foi command aici development related to Phase I oi the liaiasthan Canal (c) whethei mstiuctions have been Project As regards phase II of the issued to the manufactuiers to bung project namely completion of Rajas­ man-made fibres within the reach of than cana1, only broad discussions masses, and if so, the reaction of the ha\e taken place with the World manufacturers thereto0 Bank and no immediate assistance is expected THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (b) Does not arise A C. GEORGE)- (a) Yes, Sir. (b) and (c) No Sir Voluntary Export by India’s Cotton Textile Industry Assistance to drought affected states 628. SHRI K LAKKAPPA* 630 SHRI PRABODII CHANDRA: SHRI P M MEHTA SHRI RANABAHADUR SINGH*. Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state* Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state the cunount of loans (a) whethei India’s Cotton Textile and grants that have been given to industry has decided to undertake a the drought-affected States during the voluntary obligation to export 15 per current financial year so far? cent of its production in 1973; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether this wtnjld raise In­ MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. dia’s export earnings and if so, by R. GANESH): A Statement is laid! bow much? on the Table of the House. i 61 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 62

Statement CENTRAL ASSISTANCE RELEASED FOR DRCl'CHl BELIEF MFASLHtS DURING THE YEAR 1972-3 (Rs. in crores) Ceilings Central Assistance released States adopted —...... —■ — b> Mimstrv Loan Grant Total of Finance

(1) (2) (3; (4) (5)

X. Andhra Pradesh 28*00 15*50 11*00 26*50

2. Bihar...... 13*40 6*oo 4*00 10*00 3- Gujarat...... 6*90 0*50 1*00 1-50 4. Jammu & Kashmir* o*8o 0*50 o* 50 5* Maharashtra 94 09 32-00 17*00 49*00 6. Mjsoref 7*75 12*50 2*00 14*50 7* Nagaland .... 0*08 0*05 0*05 8.Orissa** .... 14*66 4*oo 2*00 6*oo 9*Rajasthan* 6-6o 2*00 2*00

xo. Tamil Nadu 1*50 ..

XI. Tripura .... 0* 88 0*25 0*25 0*50

12. Uttar Pradesh£ 9-19 0-90 o*6o 1*50

13. West Bengal £ io-08 2-00 3*04 5*04

T o t a l . 193*82 76*20 40*89 117*09

•Includes snow-fall etc. t A Central Team has recently returned after reviewing the States* requirements. Its Report is awaited. ♦•Includes Floods and Cyclones. ^Includes Floods. Leather Industry in West Bengal and leather until exports thereof are Tamil Nadu decanalised from the State Trading Corporation, 681. DR. H P. SHARMA: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased (b) what steps have been taken by to state Government to meet the threat; and (a) whether Government’s atten­ (c) the success so far achieved in tion has been drawn to the reports the canalisation of leather exports that the leather trade and industry and boosting export earnings? in West Bengal and Tamil Nadu, which together account for almost the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE entire export trade, has decided to MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI choice all exports of semi-processed A C GEORGE): (a) and (b). A 3401—L&— 3 Written Answers FEBRUARY 28, 1973 Written Answers 64

Section of the trade comprising ex­ Unemployed Handloom Weavers la porters of semiprocessed hides and Bijapur and Gulbarga skins had protested against the deci­ sion of the Government to canalise 634 SHRI DHARAMRAO their exports through the State AFZALPURKAR Trading Corporation of India The SHRI C K JAFFER canalising procedure adopted by the SHAR1EF Corporation has been simplified to ensure that there is no dislocation of Will the Minister of COMMERCE trade be pleased to state

(c) Implementation of canalisation (a) whether due to the drought is proceeding satisfactorily By now situation m Bnapur and Gulbatga, the State lradiv>£, Corpoiaticm of moi e than 2 lakh local handloom India has registered about 5100 con vna\crs have became jobless because tracts foi cxpoit of semi-processed Of the ‘•hortagc of law matenals, hide* and skins valued at about Rs 75 ciores and shipm-^nts v ducd at ap­ (b) whethet Mysore State is not m proximately R5 25 c j o ic s have been a position to help them m this regard made since 14th December 1972 the unless massive help is sought from date of canalisation the Centre and (c) if so the reaction of Central Government theieto' % Rules for Staff Working on Trade Operation ude in K V IC THF DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A C GEORGJ > (■*) to (c) ] he Gov 633 SHRI VEKARIA ernment oi Mvsore had represt nted SHRI DHAN SHAH PRA- 1hat certain p iris of the St ite especi­ DHAN ally the areas ot Gulbarga Bijapur Bidar Belgaum and Dharwar where Will the Mimstei of COMMERCE there is a heiv> concentration of bt pleasid to state handloom mdustrv had 1 een affected by severe drought ana lequested for the following assistance to help the (a) whether as his been done xn handloom weavers m the abo\e men­ the case of legulai staff of the Khadi tioned drought Elected areas — and Village Industries Commission any rule* or regulation*. 1 egarding the (1) an additional allotment of 2 appointment salary and allowances lakh 3 Kgs of cotton yarn per promotions and other conditions of month to the State and service have been framed for the staff working m the Trade Operations (ii) financial assistance to the side of the Commission and tune of Rs 30 lakhs for orga­ nising yarn depots to supply yarn to handloom weavers at fb) if so, whether a copy thereof regulated pmces will be laid on the Table and if not the reasons therefor’ Regarding (i) above, additional allot­ ments of 2 02,480 Kgs of cotton yam have been made to the State during THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE December, 1972, to February, 1978 MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI The State Government has also been A C GEORGE) (a) and (b) The advised to hold discussions with mills information is being collected and in the State for production of more Will be laid on the Table of the House yarn of specific counts and supply it to 65 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 66 handloom weavers in the Statte. With New Delhi were referred to the CBI regard to (ii) above, the State Gov­ for investigation® on the basis of the ernment has been reguested to sub­ Audit Report and

(b) if so, to what extent this will Rubber Factory at Fajfhat help the textile mills in India; and 640. SHRI M. K. KRISHNAN: Will (c) how many countries will parti­ the Minister of COMMERCE be cipate in the Seminar? pleased to state: (a) whether Government have is­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE sued any licence to “start a new Rub­ MINISTRY OP COMMERCE (SHRI ber factory at Palghat in Kerala; A. C. GEORGE): (a) Government is not specifically aware of any such (b) if so, the name of the Qompany; Seminar being organised by the All and India Textile Association in collabo­ (c) when will it start production? ration with the Indian Institute of Technology. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ib) and (c) Do not arise. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A C GEORGE)- (a) to (c) A letter Raids on Forward Trading Centres in of Intent to M/s. Ruby Rubber Works Delhi Limited, Ruby Nagar, Changana- cherry, Kerala, dated the 25th Nov­ 639. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR: Will ember, 1970, has been issued for the the Minister of COMMERCE be pleas­ establishment of a new Automobile ed to state: Tyre Factory at Walayar in Palghat District m Kerala for the manufacture (a) whether a raid was recently of 4 lakh Nos. each of Automobile conducted on the Forward Trading Tyres and Tubes. Their proposal for Centres in Delhi; foreign collaboration with M/s. Gen­ eral Tire International, Akron, Ohio, (b) the nature of documents seized U.S.A., has been approved by Govern­ and the number of persons arrested; ment. M/s Ruby Rubber Works Limi­ ted have formed a new company m (c) the action taken against the the name and style of M|s. Appollo persons arrested; and Tyres Limited for implementing the Letter of Intent. It had been indica­ (d) whether Government propose ted in the application for licence made tc requisition the buildings for its by this party submitted in February, own use where forward trading 1970, that the time required for the business is done* so that a check could implementation of the project would be put on this illegal business? be 2 to 3 years. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A C. GEORGE): (a) A number of raids were organised by Delhi Police 641. ¥To • against illegal forward traders in the w t srs ft s*rr ^ recent past. : (b) and (c). The documents seized allegedly contain incriminating entri­ (*r) 1 961-62 % ijpqr es relating to violation of the provi­ % srrcrp" qr 1971 ^ 5^ % 1972 sions of the Forward Contracts (Re­ ir *TPTT?jr i f flR P ft gulation) Act, 1952. The question Of appropriate action against the con­ tff; cerned persons/firms would be con­ sidered after scrutiny of the seized (*¥) 1970 ft J# documents 1 9 61—6 2 $ 5TCT 1972 t (d) No, Sir. qprhr w «rr ? <59 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 70

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14. "dWtiW VTTfmR 27. pHfflPTHgTTft T O T srro 'irTTOTTir fko 168.00 vrwrHt frr° . 125.00 28. 114.25 15. #8FPTIN’o . 150.00 29 16- W t f iJsanftfatPT Wo Ivg^fhTfWo . 111.00 fro 150.00 30 TTStjl qfllfrsr ?ftT 17. «ft 3RTT srcRTTfl' 1TZ- . 110.67 WlUl 9IWT ^TWFTT fecepjfY— %nr^m ijfas ^ f^o . . 150.00 ^TT I 18 »nrr s ? - WTpfr *RW< C^TRT Transfer of Control on KJuugi Gramo- rwfiw . 150.00 dyog Bhavan New DeUd to other Agency 19. T^narft v W pt- 644 SHRI DHAN SHAH PRA- l^ro „ 150.00 DHAN- Will the Munster of COM­ MERCE be pleased to state: 20. ^ W IcU^o tffTo %o (a ) whethei there is at present f^ro (vtvnitfew any proposal under the consideration of Khadj and Village Industries Com­ . 150.00 mission to transfer the Khadi Gramo- dyog Bhavan at New Delhi to some 21. srarj§T ?rnfr T f w other agency, qTPToIT?ro%o f^fo (b) if so, the reasons therefor and the broad outlines of the proposal; JT2t) . 150.00 and

22. ^PFT6 (c) whether the proposed agency would be a Governmental one or 7 fk o (* t- non-governmental one? srrqftiW ^ R n ^t) 150.00 THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 23. *?T 5fa r^ f*r° * 144.17 MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHBI A C G£ORGE> fa) No, Sir 24. iWM *rgf>Tfl # T (b^ and (c) Do not ame «m»ar *r f^r<» . 140.00 Irregularities in the Accounts of 25. VTP1V VtsmtfCTT Bihar Khadi Gromodyog Sangh Dar- bhanga (Bihar) f*F5T %<> . 130.00 645 SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA* 26. Will the Minister of COMMERCE be firs* fa® . 130.00 pleased to refer to the leply given to Unstarred Question No 338? on 6th 75 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1978 Written Answers

December, 1972 regarding the irregu­ and compile information in this larities in the Accounts of the Bihar regard and submit periodically to the Khadi Gramodyog Sangh, Darhhanga Central Government. (Bihar) and state: (b) 135 persons were prosecuted in (a) whether any action has since Delhi during the year 1972. been taken for the proved defalcation of Rs 0.35 lakh; World Bank Aid for Development Programmes in Chambal Valley (b) what is the total amount ad­ vanced in various forms by the Khadi 647. SHRI LALJI BHAI: Will the and Village Industries Association to Minister of FINANCE be pleased to the Bihar Khadi Gramodyog and state: public institutions and what are the (a) whether World Bank is being methods adopted and steps taken to approached for development program­ ensure proper accounting etc, me of Chambal Valley area; and (c) whether there is a strong (b) if so, a brief outline thereof11 demand for Government take-over of the Sangh by its employees who have THE MINISTER OF FINANCE been on strike; and (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): (a) and (b). A proposal for obtaining (d) the reaction of the Commission World Bank Group’s assistance for and Government to this and other development of Chambal Valley area demands of the employees? is at a preliminaj y stage of considera­ tion. The components of the Project THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE have not yet been drawn up MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Deposits of Indian Citizens in Swiss A. C. GEORGE): (a) to (d). The in­ Banks formation is being collected and will be laid on the Table of the House (J48. SHRI S. N MISRA Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to Arrest of Hoarders and state: Black-marketeers (a) whether any attempt was mide to enquire about the deposits of In­ 646. SHRI B. R. SHUKLA: Will dian citizens in Swiss Bank; the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, when and with what results; (a) whether there is an adequate independent system operating in the (c) whether when some officials country for furnishing correct and went to make enquiries about the de­ adequate information regarding eco­ posits, the officials were maltreated nomic offences like hoarding, profite­ and externed; and ering and blackmarketing; and (d) if so, when it happened and what steps have been taken to obtain (b) the number of persons prose­ the details about the accounts? cuted for such offences in Delhi dur­ ing the year 1972? THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN). THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (a) and (b). No direct approach has MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI so far been made to Swiss authorities A. C GEORGE: (a) Powers under to obtain details of deposits held by the Essential Commodities Act, 1.955 Indian citizens with Swiss banks. have been delegated and are exer­ cised by State Governments/Union (c) No, Sir. Territory Administration*?, who collect (d) Does not arise. Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 78

.Proposal to set up a Tourism Finance with improved planting mate­ Corporation rials with financial assistance from the Board under the 649. SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA Plantation Finance Scheme HALDER: Will the Minister of TOU­ and the Replantation Subsidy RISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be Scheme. pleased to state: (ii) Assisting the tea industry to (a) whether there is any propoba’ renovate and replace out­ to set up a Tourism Finance Corpora­ dated and out moded equip­ tion; and ment and machines with new machines and equipment (b) if so, the main features thereof? through financial assistance THE MINISTER OF TOURISM rendered under Tea Machi­ AND CIVIL AVIATION (DR. KARAN nery Hire Purchase Scheme; SINGH): (a) and (b). A proposal to (iii) Ensuring proper packing and set up a “Tourism Finance Corpora­ handling of tea to the point tion” for disbursing loans to hotels of ultimate supply. and other segments of the tourist in­ dustry is under the consideration of (iv) Helping the planters in im­ Government. proving their product through advisory services rendered by Improvement in the Quality of Tea the Tea Research Association of North East India and the 650. SHRI SAROJ MUKHERJEE: United Planters Association Wilt the Minister of COMMERCE be of Southern India, pleased to state: (v) Enforcing Quality Control of (a) what steps the Tea Board has the produce through pre­ taken to improve the quality of tea, shipment inspection both by as envisaged in section 10 of Indian the Tea Board and the Health Tea Act, 1953, and whether the tea Authorities. garden-owners abide by the advice given by th* Board in this re3pect; and The above measures are taken in the interest of the tea garden-owners (b) whether export trade in tea is and the question of their not abiding not increasing upto the experts’ ex­ by the advice given by the Board pectation due to the fact that the does not arise quality of tea is not increasingly im­ proving and, if so, what steps the (b) Exports of tea from India in­ Government of India propose to take creased during last three years as may to remedy the position? be seen from the table below:

THE DfcrUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Year Export figure^ A. C. GEORGE): (a) The major ob­ Quantity (Value) jective of an research and develop­ mental programmes sponsored and (In m. kgs). (In crores financed by the Tea Board is to give of Rupees) impetus to production of better qua­ lity teas. The measures that have 1970 . . • 202*0 148-75 been and are being taken by the Board to achieve this objective are 1071 • . 206•1 155*34 given below:— 1972 . , 207-6* 156*70* (i) Encouraging extension, re­ placement and replanting ♦Provisional. 79 Written Answers FEBRUARY 28, 1978 Written Answers 8o

There is no decline in the quality (sr) w yftpftW * f t p.v farm ol Indian tea and the question of adverse effect of exports because of f t f t % tfare ^ fiR W T poor quality does not arise %*rr ?

Loans to Small and Under-developed (»r) w r f t x m % ^ Tea Gardens mwzft % s 4tw zurft fFzWtft tim % 4rrq srr4t fwm n^T T r m ft* 651 SHRI SAROJ MUKHERJEE i w Will the Minister of COMMERCE be % , f t x pleased to state* (*r) w ^ (a) whether his Ministry is awaie w r % ? of the fact that small and underdeve­ loped tea gardens do not get loans that are distributed through the Tea f«TO * TTTO Board m the form of Plantation loan. Replanting subsidy loan and hue ( f t Ko tot® *r«far) : (wr) srt purchase on machinery loan, |T I ’TTW TPRT fb) how much loans were distribu­ w * ?r> ar1^=Rf> ted to Birias* plantation and Agency- srr snftrTrfrift s r t 30- 12- house plantations m the cunrnt finan­ 72 tt^ v ttw «j[c4rort snrV cial year and the last year nnd how much loan was granted to tmdij te i f%zn WfT «JT f5TR% <$P matter, the remedy suggested by his ?t#Y wt f?nrr wm , Ministry’ 1 «*Sjp THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE (^f) % d¥f><. SBTTTR % MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A C GEORGE) (a) to (c) The ^F

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6 53. sft fa * $*rrr srnrsft : Difficulty to check rise in prices as a •sfV *TTarT : result of failure of crops 654. SHRI AN ANTRA O PATIL: wrfvn* *rt?T f?rr Will the Minister of FINANCE be ftp : pleased to state whether due to failure of crops the prices have gone up very (^ ) f*£?r «tr?t 1938 % high and Government are finding it difficult to check the rise in prires? ’SRST^r T? ®R^ f^TTT | f^rar% ranter ^ w & q THE MINISTER OF FINANCE % ?rr% sttcct ^ fosrfa (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): The Government is aware that the % *fafsr srT^r *ft; set-back in agricultural production in 1971-72, and the damagfe to the (sr) «rfe $r, fft «tt a r m kharif crops in 1972-73, have result­ tfV *Frr srfrrfw | ?r*rT «rror % ed in pressure on prices, particularly fatrfa- *fX WT sr^TR TS% 3T?TT J ? of food articles and agriculture based industrial raw materials. This pres­ sure has manifested itself in the *rf* m «r4T^r«i> absence : <‘ ? w of f t the usual seasonal decline in prices which takes place between (sft x*o *fto anif) : (sf) srft September and December. The short­ (sr) firibr st*btt sttt ^ fall in kharif production is expected shfeRT fe% 3TT^ % qfcoTTTpR^T to be partly made good through the Emergency Agricultural Production *?TC?M*S5T ®mTT aPTR 1939, 1 Programme. Meanwhile the Govern­ 1973 % *r*rr?r ft WT f, I ment has undertaken to import food- grains and vegetable oil seeds/oils to ^ ttc 5Ft ^nrrffcer % ^r? u rcfar ease the pressure on prices. While the full impact of these measures is ■awrre4 % 4*T^ 4a£?r *r s>mrc srsrsr4 still to be felt, it may be pointed out % wrt ir *ft ^ far^r « t r r *t^r that the rise in the general index of wholesale prices (1961-62—100) dur­ Wf^RT STFTtr^r fa«T «TTT 3R Officers' Association had adopted a re­ TWHW ?WfT W HTTW w p m ?TRt solution to launch a non-cooperation Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1873 Written Answers 84 movement m the Indian Airlines to secured for these sectors or to give press their demands, an indication of the source (b) what were the demands put forward bv the Association, and Business Transactions in Asia, 1972 (c) the decision of Government Fair thereon’ 657 SHRI S A MURUGANAN- THE MINISTER OF TOURISM THAM AND CIVIL AVIATION (DR KARAN SHRI M C DAGA SNGH) (a) In December, 1972, the Officers’ Association orally informed Will the Minister of COMMERCE the Management of Indian An lines be pleased to state that they had decided to keep 7th January, 1972 as a dead ine lor a (a) the total amount spent by G v- decision on the demands listed in their crnment for Asia ’72 Fair, memorandum dated Ird Octobei 1972 (b) the total value of busine s (b) Revision of pay-scales to be at tiansactions that took place m that par with those of Engineers, housing Fair and its bieak-up countiy-vu „ subsidy of 30 per cent of the maxi­ and commodity-wise and mum of the locale, automatic pro­ motion to higher grade, additional (c) the total gate collection and increment from 1st April, 1972 and income fiom othei souices duimg the levision of chaige allowance etc Fan7

(c) The mattei is being discussed between the Management and the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Association MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRT A C GEORGE) (a) Rs 6 24 91 l r)0 to the end of Asia '72 Howe\ei Assistance from International Deve­ ceitam payments havt >et to be made lopment Association and the total cost to the Fan autl - rities is expected to be Rs 8C1 6:6 SHRI S A MURUGANAN- c i ores THAM Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state (b) Total value of business tiar- sacted at the Asia 72 Fair amou ts (a) whether Government aie tiy- to Rs 5720 90 lakhs out of which e\- mg to get credits from the Interna­ poit orders to the tune of Rs 3081 27 tional Development Association for lakhs were concluded and deals foi '■teel and oil sectors and import of goods worth Rs 2639 G3 lakhs also finalised Detailed state (b) if so, the amount thereof’ ments—I and II giving country-v. i c and commodity-wise break-up of the THE MINISTER OF FINANCE exports and imports are laid on the (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN) Table of the House [Placed tn (a) For the purpose of (mobilising Library See No 4246/73] These initial foreign exchange requirements figures do not however reflect the for Fifth Plan projects in sectors such totality of export prospects generated as steel, oil and fertiliser, discussions The results in terms of specific ordeis have taken place with fnendly coun­ booked business negotiated and trade tries as well as international institu­ enquiries leceived can be fully gaug­ tions like the World Bank ed over a period of time only

(b) It is premature to state the (p) Rs 2,07,60 701 to date Certain extent of credits which would be recoveries are still being effected. »5 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 86-

Proposal to keep a permanent Indus- (b) There is no proposal to keep trial Exhibition in the grounds of a permanent Industrial Exhibition or Asia* 7Z Fair in the ground.

658. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN- (c) Does not arise. THAM: Will the Minister of COM­ Exports from India during 1972-73 MERCE be pleased to state: 659. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: (a) which are the structures and SHRI P. M. MEHTA: pavilions proposed to be kept perma­ nently in the ground of Asia ’72 Fair; Will the Minister of COMMERCE, be pleased to state: (b) whether there is any proposal to keep a permanent industrial (a) whether according to a note prepared by his Ministry, exports exhibition or Fair in that ground; and during the current financial year had (c) if so, the broad outlines there­ totalled 1,070 crores as compared with of? 877 crores during April-October, 1971- 72, an increase of Rs. 193 crores or 22 per cent; THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (b) if so, the share of exports to A. C. GEORGE): (a) The structures Bangla Desh in this total rise in the and pavilions belonging to the Fair value of exports and detailed break­ Authority proposed to be kept per­ down of the value of goods sent to manently in the grounds of Asia ’72 Bangladesh during April-October, Fair are: — 1972-73; and (c) whether his attention has been (1) Hall of Nations drawn to an article published in this (2) Halls of Industries connection in the ‘Statesman*, Calcutta (An Economists Note Book) dated (3) Export Products Pavilion the 18th January, 1973 under the cap­ tion “the cloud over export statistics’* (4) Nehru and New India Pavi­ and if so, Government’s reaction lion thereto? (5) INDIA 72 Theme Pavilion THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE- (6) Administration Building MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (7) Warehouse & Railway Siding A. C. GEORGE): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) Rs. 44.4 crores (provisional). (8) Four Gate Complexes Commodity-wise data not available. (9) Shakuntalam Cinema Theatre (c) Yes, Sir. (10) Hamsadhwani Open Air Even after allowing for exports to Theatre and Lake. Bangla Desh there is a very substan­ (11) Four Restaurant-Cum-Shop- tial increase in exports in the current' ping Centres. financial year-. (12) Seven Toilet blocks Grant of Exemption from Payment of Income-Tax to Foreign Technicians (13) Eleven Electrical Sub- Stations. 660. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Will the Minister of FINANCE be (14) Fair Restaurant. pleased to state: These constitute the permanent (a) whether by a notification issued complex of the Fair Grounds. on 31st December, 1972, foreign tech- 87 r 'Written Answers FEBRUARY 28, 1973 Written Answers 88

mcians have been allowed exemption (d) in so far as the all-India long from income-tax and, term public financial institutions are concerned, none of them has so far (b) if so on what grounds? sanctioned any financial assistance, to M/s Maruti Limited, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI As per the audited balance sheet K R GANESH) (a) No Sir of the company as on 31st March, The exemption from income-tax to 1972 the company had availed secur­ foreign technicians is allowed undci ed loans to tht extent of Rs 1173 section 10(6) (vu)/(vua) of the In lakhs unsecuied loans without m- come-tax Act 1961 A Press Note teiest to the extent of Rs 4 lakhs copy laid on the Table of the House besides dues to a directoi of Rs 0 30 was released on 31st December 1972 lakhs explaining some of the feature®, of this tax exemption as modified by the Loss suffered by MMTC due to Taxation Laws (Amendment) Act Iron-Ore Export to Japan during the 1970 and the changes made in the last Three Years foim of application for obtaining Government’s appioval of the con­ tacts of sox vice of fouif,n technicians 662 SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU for this purpose [Placed *n Library Will the Mimstci of COMMERCE be See No LT-4247/73] pleased to state (b) Does not anse (a) the value and quantity of 11011 ore export to Japan duung the1 last Ihree yeais jeai-uise Loan Sanctioned b\ a Nationalised Bank to Marutt and Co Ltd, (b) the total loss sufleied the MMTC on this account dunnrt the 661 SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU last tincp years v^ai-wise and the Will the Minister of FINANCE be 1 actors it sponsible foi *->ucn lo ■>, pleased to state (c) whether Japan has refused to (a) whether Maiuti and Co Ltd, compensate the MMTC foi the loe*. Haiyana, has recently been sanction­ in its export earnings as a result of ed loans amounting to several mil­ dollai devaluation and lions of rupees b> a nationalised (d) if so* what action if any is bank, pioposed to be taken in this regald’ tb) if so when the tpphcation was received and when the loan uas THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE sanctioned MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI

corresponding increase in sales reali­

Arrears of Income-Tax due from the Textile Export Commitments by Big Film Distributors and Cinema Owners Industrialists of Delhi 666. KUMAR1 KAMLA KUMARJ: 664. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: pleased to refer to the reply given to Unstarred Question No. 938 on the i a) whether many textile industries 17th November, 1972 and state: of Tat as, Birlas and Mafatlal Group have failed to fulfil their export (a) the further measures taken to commitments; and recover the arrears outstanding against the cinema-owners and film (b) if so, the action taken by distributors in Delhi; Government agairot those Companies? 91 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 W ritten Answers

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI C. GEORGE) (a) and (b). Twelve tex­ A. C. GEORGE); () No fair price tile mills belonging to the Tates, Birias cloth shop has been opened under and Mafatlal Group of Industries had National Textile Corporation in Bihar. undertaken specific export obligations for being granted import licences for textile machinery items One textile (b) All composite mills have been asked to open ten retail shops each mill belonging to Mafatlal Group of in their surrounding urban and rural Industries had undertaken export obligation for being granted licence areas. The mills, the management of which has been taken over by under the Industries (Development and Regulation) Act to mstal auto­ Government under the Industrieo matic looms. In ten of these cases, (Development and Regulation) Act, export obligations were fulfilled. In 19-61 have been asked directly .to two of the remaining cases, the textile do so. The Indian Cotton Mills Federation also has, on Government’s mills concerned have paid the request, instructed all composite mills penalties. In the third case which under their control to take similar pci tains to the grant of licence under action. the Industries (Development and Regulation) Act, the textile mill concerned represented that the looms Export of Consumer Goods from India installed were found defective and the to Poland suppliers had agreed to replacc them It was for this reason that the mill 668. SHRI H. M. PATEL: Will the could not fulfil the export obligation Minister of COMMERCE be pleased within the prescribed time. In consi- to state: deiation of the circumstances of this case, extension of period for fulfilment (a), whether a Polish trade of the export obligation was granted delegation recently arrived m India; (b) whether the delegation decided to import a large quantity of consumei Eight textile mills belonging to the goods from India; and above mentioned Group of Industries defaulted upon their export obligations (c) if so, the nature and quantity imposed for being granted permission of goods being imported by Poland to use the Trade Mark ‘Sanforized* and the likely increase in foreign and have paid the penalties exchange earnings as a result thereof?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Fair Price Cloth Shops in Bihar MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A. C GEORGE): (a) to (c). During the visit of the Polish Prime Minister W57. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI: to India in January, 1973, a long-term Will the Minister of COMMERCE Trade Protocol between India and Po­ be pleased to state- land for the years 1973, 1974 and 1975 was signed The Protocol provides for increased export of non-traditional (a) the number of fair price cloth iteim from India including consumer shops opened under National Textile goods such as instant tea, instant Coipoialion in Bihar; and coffee, tinned fruits and juices, fpotwear, articles made of leather, (b) whether Government have cotton and silk readymade garments, given directions to Tatas and Birias woollen knitwear, rayon fabrics, silk to open fair price cloth shops in Bihar fabricr,, polyester cotton fabrics, State? cosmetics, toileterles, detergents, Written Answer* PHALGUNA 4, 1884 (SAKA) Written Answer* 9* >

«irigeratora and de<|> freezers, water Foreign Exdmage Karate* •coolers, electrical household articles, *acuum flasks, sport? goods, paints, 670. SHRI H. M. PATEL: Will th* aluminium kitchen utensils etc. Minister of COMMERCE be pleased tc state: India's trade with Poland, as in the «ase of other East European countries, (a) the total foreign exchange 4s regulated by Long Term Trade and earning during the last three years Payments Agreements which provides year-wise; for the settlement of all commercial and non-commercial transactions in (b) whether our foreign trade ha? non-convertible Indian rupees. This been on the decline or is picking up; is a balanced form of trading and and imports and exports are to balance (c) if it is on the decline the each other over a period of time. reasons therefor and the efforts, if It is not practicable at this stage any made or being made to increase to indicate the increase in foreign India’s exchange earning through exchange earnings? in respect of any export- of Indian goods? particular item. However, the Trade THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Plan for 1973, as a whole, envisages MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI exports from India of the order of Rs. 70 crores. A. C. GEORGE)- (a) Exports (includ­ ing re-exports) Export and Import of Shrimps, Lobsters and Deep-sea Fish Year Value in Rs. crores. 669. SHRI H. M. PATEL: Will the Minister of COMMERCE toe pleased to state: _ >69-70 1413*3 (a) the amount of foreign exchange 1970-71 1535. . 2< earned from exports of shrimps, lobsters and deep-sea fish in general 1971-72 1606* 6 during the last one year; 1971 (April-Nov.'i . 1006-5 (b) the countries to which these 1972 (April-Nov.) provisional 1239* 3 item; are being exported; and •Not comparable with other figure^ due (c) whether we are also importing to a change in the method of its compilation in shrimps, lobsters and other sea food November 19-ro. from Bangladesh and if so, the value (b) Picking up. thereof? (c) Does not arise. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Two-way Trade between India and A. C. GEORGE): (a) The lota; value Bangladesh of exports of marine products which 671. SHRI H. M. PATEL: includes shrimps, lobsters and de°p sea SHRI B. S. CHOWHAN: fish was estimated to he of the order of Rs. 58.13 rrores during 1972. Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: (b) U.S.A. and Japan are major (a) whether there are proposals to markets followed by West European countries like U.K., France, Belgium, increase the two-way trade between India and Bangladesh; and West Germany etc.

THE m f t T ^ MINISTER Iisr THE therefore be said to posea challenge fVIINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI to the deposits o* nationalised and C. GEORGE): (a) and (b). Trade other private banks. between India and Bangladesh is re­ gulated under the provisions of the (b) The share of foreign banks in Indo-Bangladesh Trade Agreement, Financing foreign trade has quoted which was signed on 28th March, 1972. during the last 10 years. The A copy of the Agreement has been outstanding amount of foreign bills placed in the Parliament Library. purchased and discounted by foreign banks in India as a propoticn of the 672. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHARIFF: amount handled by all scheduled SHRI D. B. CHANDRA commercial banks dropiped from 43 GOWDA: per cent in 1961-62 to 27 per cent in 1971-72. There is therefore no need Will the Minister of FINANCE be at present to impose restrictions on pleased to state: the activities of the foreign banks. However, the Reserve Bank already (a) whether Government are aware has poweir? under the Reserve Bank of that deposits in foreign banks are India Act and the Banking Regulation increasing and posing a challenge Act to control the operations of the to the Nationalised Banks and other foreign banks. private banks; and Separate Corporation for Dry Fruit (b) if so, whether Government Trade propose to put severe restrictions on the activities of foreign banks to t>7:>. SHRI ARV1ND M. PATEL: enable the nationalised and other SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR: Indian banks to handle larger amount of foreign trade of the country Will the Minister of COMMERCE be besides helping them in their deposits pleased to state: mobilisation efforts? (a) whether Government are THE MINISTER OF FINANCE considering a proposal to set up a (SIIRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN) separate Corporation to handle dry (a) Between February 5, 1971 and fruit trade; and February 4. 1972 the deposits of foreign banks operating in India (b) if so, the broad outlines increased from Rs. 557.2 crores to thereof? Rs. 628.4 crores which represented a rise of 12.8 per cent. Between THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE February 4, 1972 and February 2, MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI 1973 the deposits increased from 628.4 crores to Rs. 698.1 crores which A. C. GEORGE): (a) No, Sir. repre'ents an increase of per cent. 11.1 (b) Does not arise. As against these deposits of the Indian Scheduled Commercial banks increased by 20.8 per cent for the same period Survey Reports under lead Bank in 1971-72 and 20.9 per cent for the Scheme same period in 1972-73. Further the share of foreign banks 674. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN: in the aggregate deposits of all Will the Minister of FINANCE be scheduled commercial banks has pleased to> state: declined progressively from 9.7 per cent on February 5, 1971 to 9.1 per (a) whether under the Lead BanR cent on February 4, 1972 and to Scheme, survey reports of all the 8.4 per cent on February 5, 1973. The Districts have been prepared and if deposits of foreign banks cannot so, the vnain features of the Reports; «97 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 {SAKA) Written Answers 98

(a) whether Lead Bank Schemc (cj the steps being taken to im­ has been implemented in any District plement the decision? and if so, the names thereof; and (c) the time by which this scheme THE MINISTER OF FINANCE will be made applicable to other Dis­ (SHRI YESH W ANTRAO CHAVAN): tricts? (a) and (b). A meeting of Chairman and Managing Directors of public sec­ TIIE MINISTER OF FINANCE tor banks was held under the Chair­ (SHRI YES1IWANTRAO CHAVAN): manship of the Union Finance Minis­ (a) to (c). The lead bank scheme is ter on 17th and 18th January, 1973. being implemented in all the districts This meeting was one of the periodi­ of the country except in the metro­ cal meetings, Finance Minister usually politan cities and the Union Territories holds with the Chief Executives of the of Chandigarh^ Delhi, Goa, Daman and banks The subjects discussed and Diu. In all, it re vers 3?8 districts So tne decisions taken during the meet­ /ai, survey reports have been ing are g ven in the statement laid prepared *n lespect of 302 districts on the Table of the House. [Placed in Tht’Pj reports cunt jm 11 broad features Library See No LT-4249/73]. of the d*stnct ecoromv and also seek to 'dentify the xrrowth centres with (c) The decisions have been sent to potential for opening of hank offices the banks and the Reserve Bank of Some cf the reports also focus atten­ India for necessary follow-up action. tion on the credit gaps and the type of schemes that could be taken up for implementation in the districts India's Trade with Europe and U.K. after U.K.'s entry into E.E.C. As part of the scheme, district level consultative committees are set up by 676. SHRI C JANARDHANAN: the lead banks conccrned. In these SHRI R. S PANDEY: commntees, the bank representatives Will the Minister of COMMERCE in the district as well as the concern­ be pleased to state: ed district officials meet together to discuss the ways and means for in­ (a) how far India’s trade interests creasing the banking facilities xn th"1 uith West Europe and Trade with districts. Such consultative com­ U.K have been affected by Britain’s mittees have already been set up in entry into the E.E.C.; and over 180 districts. Banks are expedit­ ing the preparation of the reports as fb) what are the steps so far taken well as setting up of the district level to safeguard India’s trade interests consultative committees wherever this in this context? has not been done already.

Decision taken in the meeting of THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Chairman and Managing Directors of MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Public Sector Banks AC. GEORGE): (a) and (b). Our exports in many items are likely to 675 SHRI C JANARDHANAN: be afTecled adversely following the Will the Minister of FINANCE be British entry into the European Econo­ pleased to state: mic Community unless adequate safe­ guards measures are found in iheir (a) whether a meeting of the Chair­ man and Managing Directors of Public respect through negotiations. sector banks was held in Delhi in As there are many impoderables, it January, 1973; i«, not possible to assess precisely the (b) if so, the subjects discussed uid impact of U.K.’s entry into EEC cn the decisions taken therein; and our exports. 9 9 Written Answers FEBRUARY 28, 1978 Written Annoers IOO*

Th* question of providing adequate (c) The steps taken include. safeguard measures for our exports (1) efforts with the Community that are likely to be affected follow­ for the removal/reduction of tariff ing British accession to the EEC is and non-tariff barriers in respect of being pursued both with the U K as important items of our exports well as the other members of the European Economic Community Dur­ (ii) participation in the +iade ing the visit of Mr, Geoffrey Rippon fairs and exhibitions m the Com - Minister m the U K Cabinet to Delhi munity member countries to pro­ in September, 1972, Shri L N Mibhra mote more exports former Minister of Foreign Trade had (in) launching of Commeicial detailed discussions with him on the Development Programmes with in­ modalities of safeguard arrangements dividual member States for our exports in the context of the (iv) Exchange of trade delega­ enlargement of the Community Shri tions Mishra Visited London in January (v) Periodic consultations for 1973 at the invitation of the Buti«h promoting tiade and commercial Government to carry forward the discussions held m Delhi A copy of relations the Joint Communique issued follow­ (vi) measures for taking full ad­ ing Shri Mishra’s discussions is laid vantage of the Generalised Scheme on the Table of the House [Flared m of Preierences> of the Community Library See No LT-4250/73] Enquiry into the death of Air India Loader near a Hangar at Delhi Air­ Balance of Trade between India and port on 16-1-1973 the EEC 678 SHRI B K DASCHOWDHURY 677 SHRI C JANARDHANAN Will tht Minister of TOURISM AND Will the Minister of COMMERCE be CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to pleased to state state

(a) whether there is a chronic ard (a) whether any enquiry was held rising adverse balance of trade bet­ into the death of 30-year old Air ween India and the EEC India Loader who was found dead with head injuries near a Hangar at (b) what was the position of our Delhi Airport on the 16th January, trade balance with EEC m 1970-71 J973, and and 1971 72, and (b) if so, the outcome thereof?

(c) the steps taken to help n ir- THE MINISTER OF TOURISM selves out of this unfavourable trade AND CIVIL AVIATION (DR KARAN balance with E E C ’ SINGH) (a) and (b) The police are investigation the case and their ieport is awaited The unfortunate THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE accident is also being enquired into MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI lepartmentally by Air-India A C GEORGE) (a) and (b) We have a chronic adverse balance of Efforts to increase foreign exchange trade with the European Economic earnings through Tourist Trade Community (Benelux countries, 679 SHRI BAKSI NAYAK Witt Federal Republic of Germany, France the Minister of TOURISM AND and Italy) The adverse balance CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state amounted to (~ ) 89 79 crores and (— ) 124 69 crores dur ng 1970-71 and (a) the total earning through tou­ 1971-72 respectively rist trade during the last two years i o i Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answerg 102

.and the expected earning during the &. Intensive publicity programmes current year; and in India and abroad with improved quality of literature. (b) what efforts, if any, are being 4. Provision of more hotel beds in .made to increase foreign exchange public sector hotels and incentives to •earnings through the tourist trade? the private sector THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND 5. Liberalisation of policy regarding CIVIL AVIATION (DR. KARAN charter flights. SINGH): (a) The foreign exchange 6. Abolition of visa fees with a num­ earnings through the tourist trade ber of countries on a reciprocal basis. during years 1971 and 1972 and the -expected earnings during 1973 are es­ 7 Bilateral agieements have been timated as follows: made with West Germany Yugoslavia and the Nordic countries for the aboli­ tion of visas for stays, upto °0 days. Estimated foreign 8 Extension of the period of visa- Yeui e\ch'• has been launched in the potential 15 Creation of holiday, resorts at markets abroad. Under the "Opera­ Gulmarg. Kovalam said. Goa. foiv destjb- tion Europe”, “Operation UK” and national traffic. “ Operation America” programmes launched in collaboration With in 16. Major improvements ere being India, efforts are being xnade to attract made to dur ffttxr fttfetmationel air­ more tourists. ports. 103 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Written Answers

17. Developing wild-life and shikar engineering goods have been taken or tourism. being envisaged: 18. Assistance to voluntary organi­ I Arrangements for making avai­ sations, institutions and the private lable indigenous and imported raw sector through grants and loans for materials on priority basis for ex­ improving and augmenting tourist port fabrication have been made. facilities II. As a result of participation m 19. Improvement of existing facili­ Asia ’72 Trade Fair, the sizeable ties at tourist centres. export-orders are expected to materialise during 1973-74. 20. Better maintenance of places of tourist interest including archaeologi­ III A number of delegations and cal monuments. study teams are proposed to be sent in the near future 21. Developing a training programme for building up a cadre of trained J’nd IV The Regional Offices and the qualified personnel for manning Foreign Offices of the Engineering tourist services. Export Promotion Council have* been reorganised to make them 22 Special point to point fares have functionally more effective also been introduced on some inter­ national sectors of Air India Export duty on MICA goods Decline in Export of Engineering: «81 SHRI BAKSI NAY AG Will Goods the Minister of FINANCE be pleased' 680 SHRI BAKSI NAYAK Wjll to state the details of export duly the Minister of COMMERCE be leviable on mica blocks, mica conden­ pleased to state: ser films and mica splittings’ (a) whether attention of the Gov­ ernment of India has been invited to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN a report in the Statements of the 29th THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI December, 1972 under the caption K R ANESH): The details of e x ­ ‘•Unexpected stagnation in Engineer­ port duty are as under ing goods export” : (b) if so, the reasons for such stag­ SI. Description of Rate of duty nation m exports of engineering £oods No. the goods and the extent to which our foreign exchange earnings have consequently 1. Mica blocks and condenser films of been depressed; and grade number z and grades supe­ (c) the steps, if any, being taken by rior thereto. . 30 per cent cut valorem Government to ensure normal earnings 2. Mica blocks and through exports of engineering goods’ condenser films of all grades other THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE than those speci­ MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI fied against serial A. C. GEORGE): (a) to (c). Exports number 1 above, aopercent ad valortm- of engineering goods during April- 3. Mica splittings of December, 1972 amounted to Rs 96.36 all grades other thaaaradejutmbers crores as against Rs. 91.72 crores dur­ s| and 6. 20 per cent ad valorem ing the coorrespending period in 1971. 4 Mica loose split There is, therefore, no stagnation in • tin**of grade nusa- the exports of this ittm. -Following special efforts for increas­ tom loose grade mitaifem^aad 5 } ispetmntMwdarmr ing the growth rate in exports of J 05 Written Answers PHALGJJNA 4, 1894 (SA K A ) Written Answers i(H

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% o w it « *r$*r) : ( v ) 3ft fT I ^t w r Jr gt% qr «tt^ t w ~ ^?TR ^ ™ ^ i yrR?rhc t k n^ft snwnft *Ft *pfr^ T&m sf^t ^n% i %f%?r srfe ( » ) % ( * ) . TTiir ¥TT^R fNfor w\ fnpn^RF ?r*wr fTTT *3R?TT, v m m ifcc «£Wfar wf?ftwnf % W8R& V&f; a t aERFIT #nft ftfwat ^w t % 1 m 5r^r Of *FT ft WTT’ft I *nft 30 16 v d f w w w wt * tjw m § **T St 1973—74 % Demami /or wnge freesc to cwrb fifffty % fcTC[ 7 . 25 *T t? ^ hiHaWim ^ fim fr o «ft | i 684 SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO SHRI RAMSHEKHAR PRASAD f&Wf wvr $ atwr w fr vfr SINGH: y m r *r***r**n:vt«nr Will the Minister of FINANCE be w 3. 50vrt»iw rtr< tT w r^ CT ntft pleased to state: t i 4*fimfw 4 tm £r 4p*fa iftr (a) whethar there is • great demand •jyiwi ttw iw < mcr W ^ tor wage fraue to curb inflation is W the country; >7 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Written Answers 108

(b) if so, whether Government arc simplifying the procedures for lending >nsidering any such proposal; ar.d to these sectors is also under active consideration. (c) if not, the reasons therefor? (c) The aggregate deposits, exclud­ THE MINISTER OF FINANCE ing inter bank deposits, of the nation­ SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): alised banks as on the last Friday cf a) to (e). Wage increases unrelated March, 1970, 1971 and 1972 are as o productivity are not conducive tr under: \ feneral price stability. At the sam* ime it does not follow that a wage leeze is necessary in order to curb As on the last Friday Amount Outstanding nflation. The “Approach to the Fifth of March Rs. in crores. "Man” sets out the guidelines for the vage policy; no general freeze on vjges is contemplated therein. T970 . . ?> and (b) The lending policy pur- (b) whether the President of the «ued by the banks since nationalisation All India Bank Employees Association takes into account the special needs has alleged that while the poorer and of the weaker and hitherto neglected weaker sections of borrowers contin­ sections of the society. While scrutini­ ued to get their credit requirements sing the applications of borrowers at higher rates, the big business belonging to these categories, the houses got the benefit of the low rates banks lay greater stress on the pro­ offered; and ductive nature of the endeavour and its viability than on security consi­ (e) if so,"whether Govemmeht tiave derations. The committee on banks’ taken any steps to disewarage such credit; schemes with reference to em­ discriminatory lending by the banket ployment potential has evolved a set of simplified model application forms THE MINISTER OF, FRANCE far borrowers of these sectors and (SHRI YESHWAN^B^q CHAVAN*,: tl\ese have been recommended to the (a) to (c ). When it came to th$ notice banks for adoption. The question of of tHfe Reserve feank 1 of* IftcUfe tAlk 109 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers n o attempts -were being made by banks THE MINISTER OF FINANCE in some cases to take over, from one (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN;: another, account of large borrowers (a) Yes, Sir. by offering concessional rates of interest, the Reserve Bank* advised (b) and *c). Assisting the Inspect­ ing Officer by frmshing information as them in December, 1972 that they required under Section 47(2) of the should not take credit limits of any party aggregating Rs. 25 lakhs or over State Bank of India (Subsidiary by quoting rates of interest lower Banks) Act, 1959 is a statutory duty, infringement of which attracts the than those stipulated by its existing bankers. All the banks were again punishment laid down in Section 47 advised by the Reserve Bank on 13th (3) The question of victimisation for January, 1973 that they should not carrying out such a duty does not, take over from one another credit therefore, arise In any case normal limits or term loans aggregating procedure provided in the rules for Tts. 25 lakhs or over without prior seeking redress against grievances is consultation with the banks which available to all employees. have presently granted such facilities and without prior clearance from the Trade Agreement with U.S.SR. Reserve Bank. These instructions are for Export operative for the present till the end 688. S1IRI P. A. SAMINATIIAN: of April, 1973 SHRI P. M MEHTA: The Government arc not aware of Will the Minister of COMMERCE the specific allegation by the Presi­ be pledged to state dent of the All India Bank Emplovecs Association or the context in which it (a) whether any agreement bet­ was made Banks generally ensure ween India and U.S.S.Il. for exports easy accessibility to credit for small to Soviet Union has been signed in borrowers on reasonable terms Decemhei. 1973: and

Enjoying of Protection against Victi­ (b) if so, the salient ieatures of the misation by Employees of subsidiary agreement? banks of State Bank of India THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE 687. SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY- MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Will the Minister of FINANCE be A C. GEORGE): (a) and (b). No pleased to state: agreement was signed between India and USSR in December. 1972 How­ (a) whether in terms of Section 47 ever. the Indo-Soviet Trade Protocal o f the State Bank of India (Subsi­ for 1973 was signed on November 25. diary Banks') Act, 1959, the employees 1972. This c \ '•a total turnover and the officers of Subsidiary Banks of trade between the two countries of the State Bank of India are re­ duung 1973 of the order of Rs. 411 quire to furnish information to the crorec Inspector making inspection of a sub­ sidiary Bank relating to the -iffairs Indian exports to USSR during 1973 o f the Bank; will comprise of engineering goods, consumer goods and other non-tra- (b) whether such employees and ditional items like ready-made gar­ officers who have assisted the Inspector ments. linoleum, garage equipment, in the course of inspection enjoy any electric motors, storage battteries. protection under law against victi- power cables, wire-ropes, detergent, Y&isfetion and if so, the nature of pro­ cosmetics, dye-stuffs, hand tools, sur­ tection esAjoyed; and * gical instruments, vacuum flasks, (c) if not, the remedy available to cigarettes, etc. besides traditional such employees/officers? commodities like deoiled cakes, cashew i n Written Answer* FEBRUARY 23, 1073 Written 4rm oer*

kernels, tea, coffee, spices, tobacco, (c) the estimated total quantum oi cotton textiles, jute manufacturers, credit expected for the ye&r ending: handicrafts etc. Pjrincipal items ol 30th June, 1973 under the scheme? impoit into India from the USSR duung 1973 will be plant and machi­ nery, petroleum products, industrial raw materials such as asbestos, zinc, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THR nickel, copper, palladium, fertilizers, MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI- newsprint, refractories etc. besides MATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) Ye» Sir. component^,, spares and raw materials for Soviet assisted projects. (b) A copy of the guidelines iasuetS by the Reserve Bank of India to the Operational Profit Made bj Indian public sector banks m this connec­ Airlines during December, 1972 tion is laid on the Table of the House. \Placed m Library. See No LT- 689 SHRI LALJI BHAI; Will the 4251/73] Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state whe- I h e i Indian Airlines has made an (<•) The implementation of the operational piofit oi Rs 85 lakh m scheme has> gathered momentum only the month of Decembei. 1972 out of recently A$ such, a clear picture o! the total levenue oi Rs 6 8 ciore the likely pattern of investment upto during that month? the '10th June, 1973 will emerge onfy in due course.

THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (DR KARAN Decision regarding participation h> SINGII) Indian Airlines mode an International Fair at Djakarta from operating profit of Rs 83 28 laKhs 16-6-1973 to 88-7-1973 against a total revenue oi Rv 0 71 crores duung the month oi December, 1972 691 SHRI M M. JOSEPH: Will th f Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state Concessional Interest Rates on Advances made by Public (a) whethei Government have de­ Sector Banks cided to participate in the Interna­ tional Fair to be held at Djakarta 690. SHRI ANNASAHEB GOT- (Indonesia) from the 16th June to KHINDE Will the Minister of FIN­ 38th July. 1973; and ANCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, the approximate amount (a) whether the scheme of conces­ to be spent in this regard? sional interest rates on advances ma^g by the public sector banks to THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE lew income groups who deserve finan­ MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHOT cial assistance is being actually im­ A. C. GEORG®): (a) Yes, Sir. plemented;

Ob) the guidelines for the identifica­ (b) A sum of R*. Six lakhs t m tion of pemons eligibly for la*#* under been tentatively proposed iar ftfl* tfce scheme and *he condition? «n4cr event in the Budget estimate* fa r Whteh Jcpn« are to be givjpn; and 1973-74 I I 3 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, i m iSAKA) Written Answer* 11<£

Tnulc Agreement with Greece A. C. GEORGE): (a) and (b). No Sir, Art Exhibition in Asia ’72 was nei­ 692. SHRI M. M. JOSEPH: Will the ther contemplated nor organised. Minister of COMMERCE be pleased However, a National Competition in to state: Painting was organised by the Asia 72 authorities and 472 entries were (a) whether in January, 1973 any received for this competition. Trade Pact was signed between India and Greece; and (c) All the entries received for the (b) if so, the salient features there­ National Competition in Painting were of? returned to the artists at Government expense. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Floating of Loan by the State Bank of A. C. GEORGE): (a) Yes, Sir. India in Lebanese Market

(b) The objective of the Agreement 694. SHRI N. K. SANGHI; is promotion of trado m general be­ SHRIMATI BIBHA GHOSH tween India and Greece. It stipulates GOSWAMI: trade in freely convertible currencies and grant of Most Favoured Nation Will the Minister ol FINANCE be treatment to each other in matters pleased to state: riuch as payments, remittances, and transfer of funds or financial instru­ (a) whether Government of lnd:a ments, operation of commercial estab­ have permitted the State Bank of lishments, shipping etc. and grant of India to float a loan th*» Lebanese maximum possible facilities for ex­ market for 15 million Lebanese port/import of goods and holding of pounds, if so, the justification fnr fairs and exhibitions. It also envi­ floating the loan in a cu,v ncy which sages periodic consultations between is not an international cuiienc.v. the two Governments for setting diffi­ culties, if any. in implementing the (b) whether the loan is sought to agreement and to identify concrete be utilised for paying for goods in ways and means of expanding trade hard currency and if so whether between the two countries. Government hav* ensui^d that con­ version will not entail lu>.> either for Art Exhibition in Asia "72 payment of bills or the repayment of the loan; and 693. SHRI K. M. MADHUKAR: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleas­ (c) whether this transaction has ed to state: been critically commented upon by the international financial circles and (a) whether artists were requested if so, the reaction of Government in by Government to send their pain­ this regard? tings for an Art Exhibition in Asia *72; and if so, the reasons for not hav­ THE MINISTER OF FINANCE ing the Art Exhibition; (SHRI YBSHWANTRAO CHAVAN): (a) and (b). Yes Sir. The Govern­ (b) the number of artists who sent ment approved on 4th October, 1972, their paintings; and a proposal of .the Shipping Corpora­ tion of India, to raise a foreign ex­ (e) the reason why Government did change loan, for, ^meting a portion, of not return the paintings at their own the foreign pxch«>ge requirements in expense to the artists? respect of 2 OBO vessels under con­ struction in Yugoslavia. The loan is THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE to be .repaid in 5 years in 7 half-yearly m in is t r y m commbbce

payable on completion of 2 years from assistance to the State to deal with the date of drawal. The loan carries the famine and drought situation is a fixed rate of interest of 7.5 per cent inadequate; per annum and is free of Indian in­ come tax. The loan has been taken (b) whether even though the Cen­ by the State Bank of India against tral team that visited Rajasthan to promissory notes. The Stale Bank assess the financial requirements of has also to incur an additional expen­ the State for the above purpose has diture of 0.1 per cent per aimum as since submitted the report, neither the stamp duty. contents have been made public nor have the recommendations implement­ The Lebanese pound is a freely con­ ed so far; and if so, the reasons there­ vertible currency. A specific clause for; and was also incorporated in the Loan Agreement between the lending (c) whether the State Government Banks and the Slate Bank of India have sought Central assistance to the that, unless the proceeds of the loan tune of Rs. 79 crores and if so, how were convertible, the Agreement much of this has been sanctioned? would be null and void. The loan has already been utilized by converting THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the amount to U.S. dollars and mak­ MINISTRY OF FINANCE (S1IRI ing the payment to the Yugoslav K. R. GANES1I) (a) Yes, Sir. Shipyard. The conversion at the time oi' draw down did not entail any loss (b) and (o). For purposes of asses­ The repayment of the loan will sing the need for Central assistance stait from December, 1974. The ex­ on account of drought, three teams change conversion for buying Leba­ have visited the Slate during the nese currency in international market current year. As recommended by will be guided by the prevalent mo\e~ the first two teams, the Central Gov­ merit of exchange rates at the appro­ ernment adopted a ceiling of Rs. f» 60 priate time. This is a risk which is ci ores against the State Government’s inherent in any international financial demand of Rs. 33 09 crores for the transaction. current year. The requisite sanction along with the reports of the central fc) Government have seen the team were communicated to the State press reports which have appeared in Government. In its Memorandum regard to this loan transaction. There presented to the third Central Team have been certain critical commenls which visited the State recently, the but, by and large, this transaction has State Government hav^ sought Cen­ been commented upon favourably. tral assistance to the extent of Rs. 86,68 crores and not Us. 79 crores. The terms on which this loan was The report of this team is awaited. extended by the Lebanese Banks were considered to be acceptable by the Government The World Bank and Printing of Currency Notes on behalf other international financial agencies of Government of Bangladesh have also raised loans in the Lebanese and Middle-East markets, 696 SHRI N. K. SANGHIr Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to .financial Assistance to Rajasthan for state: Famine and drought relief work* (a) whether the Government of 695. SHRI N K. SANGHI: Will the India printed some •currency notes on Minister of FINANCE be pleased to behalf of the Government of Bangla­ state: desh; v (a) whether Rajasthan Government (b) whether (it has com©-Ip Govam- fcave stated .that the present .Central ment’s n p t ic a l le g a t i o n * appaar^d In some daily newspapers m Bangla­ (b) whether the bust belonged to desh that some duplicate notes were Air-India or it was borrowed from printed in India and they were seized the Archaelogical Department for ex­ in Bangladesh; hibition; and

(c) whether the Government of (c) whether the bust has since India in co-operation with the Gov­ been recovered? ernment of Bangladesh conducted an THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND enquiry to get at the root ol the mat­ CIVIL AVIATION (DR. SARAH ter or whether any independent in­ SINGH): (a) The stolen piece was net quiry has been made by the Govern­ the bust of a Jain monk of 14th cen­ ment of India; and tury but an art object “Devotee Head (d) if so, the findings thereof? 15th Centicry, Rtfjasthan” It was stolen from the Civil Aviation pavi­ lion on 16th January, 1973. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. The bust was purchased by Air- R. GANESH): (a) Yes. Sir. India for Rs. 400/- m 1967; it was in­ sured for Rs. 800/- Its current price (b) The Government of India have is estimated at Rs. 3000. been informed of the press reports in (b) The bust was a part of Air- this regard through the High Commis­ sion of India in Dacca. India’s collection. (c) The theft was reported to the (c) and (d). The position was clari­ police who are still investigating. fied by the High Commission cf India in Dacca through a press note that any insinuation about printing of Unlifted Stocks of controlled cloth duplicate notes by India is entirely 698 SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD: baseless and is deliberately circulat­ VERMA: ed to create misunderstanding bet­ SHRI MOHAMMAD ISMAIL: ween Bangladesh and India. It was also made clear that the Government Will the Minister of COMMERCE of India are prepared, if so request­ be pleased to state: ed by the Bangladesh Government to (a) whether huge stocks of control­ co-operate to thp fullest extent m led cloth have accumulated with the enquiring the origin of such counter­ mills; and feit notes. It is for the Government of Bangladesh to decide whether (b) if so, the reasons for the delay they would like to institute an en­ in speeding up its disposal? quiry within Bangladesh. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Recovery of an antique Stone Bust of A C. GEORGE): (a) Powers under a JFain Monk displayed in Civil Avia­ was some accumulation of stocks tion Pavilion in Asia*72 Fair of controlled cloth with the mills in the mitia] stages of 697. SHRI N. K. SANGHI: Will the schcme lor distiibulion of con­ the Minister of TOURISM AND trolled doth introduced with effect CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to from 1st November, 1972. The situ­ state: ation us improving as a result of the quantum of controlled cloth earmark­ (a) whether an antique stone bust ed for being sold through the mills* of a Jain monk of the 14th century own retail shops being increased from displayed in the C^'il Aviation Pavi­ 10 per cent to 20 per cent of a mill’s lion in Asia r72 Frir had been e*'.ien production of controlled cloth; and if so, the estimated value of the bust; allotment of unlifted cloth to other Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1073 Written Answers 120

States which are willing to accept and important centres oh the lift the flame immediately* or ear­ East coast; marking the same to be sold through (ii) The coastal areas are guard­ the mills’ own retail shops. ed by mobile perventive par­ ties equipped with fast mov­ Fall in the Export of non-traditional ing vehicles: In the hinter­ Indian Products land patrols are conducted in the strategic and vulner­ «& /SHl*I SUKHDEO PRASAD able road junctions for inter­ VERM A: Will the Minister of COM cepting suspected vehicle. MERCE be pleased to state: (in) There is net work of intelli­ (a) whether export of non-tradi­ gence officers under the tional Indian products have gone dcwn charge of two Supcrinten- during 1972-73 as compared to the pre­ d-ants who are posted at vious year; and head-quarters for processing and co-ord*.nnt,n» the inte’li- (b) if so, the reasons therefor? genee reports received from THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE various sourccs MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI (iv) A confeicnce of Customs and A. C. GEORGE): (a) No. Sir The Polic-j Officeis of India and overall exports of non-traditional Sri Lanka was held recently items have increased during tho first in January, 1973 where it was five months of the current financial decided that intelligence year as compared to the corresponding should be exchanged freely period of the pievious year between the officers of both (b) Does not arise countries at appropriate level m the interest of effec­ Smuggling of goods to and from Sri tive co-ordination for the Lanka purpose of prevention of 700. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD smuggling. VERMA Will the Minister of FIN­ ANCE be pleased to slate Visit by Central Team to drought affected areas in Madhya Pradesh (a) whether Government are aware that smuggling on a large scale is 701. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD poms on between India and Sn Lanka, VERMA- Will theMinister of and FINANCE be pleased to state: (b) if so, the positive measures (a) whether a high-power central Government are taking to curb the smuggling? team vis.tcd the drought-affected areas of Madhya Pradesh recently; THT' MINISTER OF STATE IN THE and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. R. GANESHJ- (a) Government are (b) if so, the main contents of th« aware that th?re is some smuggling import of the team and the quantum of articles like chillies, Indian textiles, of aid granted in this regard? plastic goods and Bidi leaves to Sn Lanka, and articles like cloves, n\.t- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN megs. mace. Nylon Fishing nets f °m THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHHI Sn Lanka to lnaia. K R. GANESH): (a) A Central team is presently visiting the State for an (b) The following measures have on-the-spot assessment of the situa­ been taken to combat such smuggl­ tion and to fix ceilings of expenditure ing:— on relief measures for 'purposes of Central assistance. (i) Sea Patrols are conducted with launches by the sea (b) The report of this team has not base parties stationed in the yet been received. M l tfrimn Answers F H A L G W A 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 122

Obiervsttan of jmtteit day My income WrtthUr-ofl Arrears of Ineonie-tax Tax: OfBeerg 703. SHRI D K. PANDA: Will the 702. SHRI SUKHDEO PHASAD Minister of FINANCE be pleased to VERMA: state: > - SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH (a) whether any part of the out­ MALIK; standing Income-tax arrears has been written off in the past three years, if t o ll the Minister of FINANCE be so, the total amount written off; pleased to state: fb) the namos of individuals and (a) whether the Income-tax Officers •companies against whom these arrears observed protest day all over the were outstanding; and country on th-e 19th January, 1973; and (c) the reasons for writing off the arrears? (b) if so, what were their main de­ mands and the reaction of Govern­ ment thereto? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. R. GANESH)* (a) The total amount THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of income-tax written off (partly or MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. wholly) during the last three years ft. GAXESHr (a) Some Class II offi­ i.s as follows:— cers and Class I officers promoted from Class II, of the Income-tax Department, observed a ‘Protest Day’ l;inancial Year. Amount written rff. on the 19th January, 1973 at a num- > In rupees). t* r of places in the charges of Com­ missioners of Income-tax. 1 9 6 9 - 7 0 . . 2 ,3 8 ,2 7 ,7 7 4 (b) The main grievances/demands 1970-71 . . 5.00,17,298 were as under:— 1971-72 • • 4 -7 5 *37j9 i 8

(vii) Amount* written off as a re­ to purchase 5 lakh pairs of shoe* jg t sult of settlement with the the old rates, and tfce &,T.C. are nego* assessees. tiating for obtaining higher price* to cover increased costs. (viii) Demands found not due on the basis of subsequent infor­ Loan from International Develops*** mation, such as duplicate de­ Association for Development of Saadt mands, demands wrongly Scale JMaatrtaa made, demands being protec­ tive etc. 706. SHRI DEVINDER SINGH GARCHA: Will the Minister at Fall in India’s Annual Export Target FINANCE be pleased to state: 704. SHRI D. K. PANDA: Will the (a) whether some schemes have Minister of COMMERCE be pleased been drawn up to utilise effectively to state: the loan of Rs. 181.97 crores received from the International Development (a) whether Government’s attention Association for the development o i has been drawn to the news-item small scale industries; and which appeared in the ‘Hindustan Standard’ (Calcutta) dated the 4th (b) what is the period and mode of January, 1973 under the caption repayment of this loan? “Whooping fall in India’s annual ex­ port target” ; and THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (b) if so, the reaction of Govern­ (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): ment thereto7 (a) Government of India have signed an agreement with the International THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Development Association (I.D ), the MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI soft lending affiliate of the World A. C. GEORGE): (a) Yes, Sir Bank, on the 9th February, 1973 for a (b) The contents of the news item credit of U.S Dollars 25 million (ap­ have been noted. proximately Rs 18 2 crores) for Indus­ trial Development Bank of India Supply of Shoes by S T.C. to U.S.S.R, (IDBI) Project. The purpose of the credit is to assist IDBI in expanding 705. SHRI DEVINDER SINGH its activities in financing the develop­ GARCHA; Will the Minister of COM­ ment of the email and medium scale MERCE be pleased to state: industrial sector in India. (a) whether S T C could not comply (b) The credit to India from I.D„ with an order from U.S S.R. for sup­ carries no interest but only a service ply of five lakh pairs of shoes due to charge at the rate of three-fourths of the rise m the cost of raw material; one per cent (3/4 of 1 per cent). The amount its repayable in half-yearly (b) whether for further supply of instalments commencing February 1, shoes to S.T.C. the Footwear Expor­ 1983 and ending August 1, 2022. ters’ Federation of India has demand­ ed cash subsidy to the extent of rise Instructions to Public Sector Banks in the cost of per pair of shoes since to Prepare Scheme in regard to August, 1972, when a fresh order for requirements of Landless eight lakh pairs was received from People Soviet Union; and 707. SHRI DEVINDAR SINGH (c) what is the reaction of Govern­ GARCHA: ment in this regard? SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO:

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Will the Minister of FINANCE be MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI pleased to state: A. C. GEORGE): (a) to (c). The (a) whether the public sector Bank* U.S.S.R. had indicated their interest have been asked to prepare schemes 1*5 Written Answers PHawUNA 4, ltf&4 (SAKA) Written Answer* 126 ( 'i ( * tmder which recrem ent* of t i» land­ Ot wgjwTtffti fkrtrq n^wnr less people benefiting from the land reforms will be met; STr-? holding up to 1971-72 4063 78 22 10.27 -one acre of irrigated land and 2 5 acres ■of dry land m selected distucts is ^ nr ^>5 16 hS 5 7 5 0 .0 4 Sbeing operated by public sector banks A t prresent, th.s scheme is operated m se’ected branches of 176 districts In addition, some of the public sector qtw vt arte ff^rnrf *rt Ibanks have also introduced a scheme f r ; *E*r o f differential interest rates for differ­ ent land holding groups of small and medium farmers all over the country 709. f $ | f *

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20 wwTFcr crt tftenfw *i?t fe*T T T R T «TT I JPP 1T ITT^T % «rrr ir swrr ^rr?c? f i ?*r ot^t ^ ? t f^TT^r ^HTnft w\ «Raft?r *r s jf^ r - sttott q-r, rr?> ^cT *T*TO ^ ’TT I ?r^T^T SJTHTTT Tt srr ^?r £ «rm - q??r ^x «ft -T^o tj»fo raRC5n q^l I f^T 9ffRT*r 5ffq^r TT?T Vt 5TF?ft €t ^tt ?frr% T^fam w? f- i 5WT fa?r *r? *rcTT% ^ r n T^r 5R*TT?r ?n^fiT % smm r ?rufm *fa*r f * f?qt?r 31 »rr# id73 % srr?r f t (^ ) 2RTT ?RTR rt g?R 3TR srmr t i wfr^r fWt€ fjrsr *r£ t , Meeting of Representatives of the- Export Promotion Council and Cham- (*§r) «rfa ?t, 5T>” ^ e r ^ wm bers of Commerce RrfirfNr w r t , sftr 712 SHRI P M MEHTA. SHRI K LAKKAPPA* (*r) srf* ?rfr, ?r> f % spu Will the Minister of COMMERCE: f m I, N i *rt srtsr spfto amrt be pleased to state* % fat* m m i % w t ynU nft tfV | (a) whether a meeting of represen­ s fh t f r s ^ w gvsr^ggr =itx

concluded contracts with Techmashe* (c) whether Government have re­ export, Moscow, for the import of ceived further communications from printing nwhmery worth about Rs. 8 the ‘Shoshit Samaj Ekata Committee*, lakhs and Rs. 79 lakhs respectively. N«w Oethi dated 1st January, 1971; and Seminar on Textiles (d) if so, the points raised therein, and the decision taken in the matter? 715. SHRI P. M. MEHTA: SHRI K. LAKKAfPA: THE MINISTER OF FINANCE Will the Minister of COMMERCE (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN); (a) and (b). State Bank of India have be pleased to state: informed Government that the inves­ (a) whether a two-day Seminar on tigations carried out by them do not textiles was held in New Delhi m the reveal any discrimination against 2nd week of December, 1972; Harijans in the State Bank of India, Ajmal Khan Road Branch, N&w Delhi. (b) if so, whether the seminar was organised by the Indian Institute of (c) Yes, Sir. Foreign Trade; and (d) The representation from the (c) whether the Seminar has decid­ Shoshil Samaj Ekata Committee be­ ed to constitute a high level group sides reierrmg to the allegations under the Indian Institute of foreign about discrimination against Haujans trade, and if so, the functions there­ m the State Bank of India, Ajmal of? Khan Branch, New Delhi, also con­ tains suggestions about the procedure THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE tor getting names from Employment MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Exchanges, etc. for reserved vacan­ A. C. GEORGE): (a) and (b). Yes, cies. Sir. Government have a’ready issued (c) Yes, Sir The Seminar recom­ detailed instructions to the Bank, re­ mended a High Level Group under garding the filling up of reserved the convenorship of the Indian Insti­ posts for Scheduled Castes/Scheduled tute of Foreign Trade lie set up to Tribes candidates. recommend to the Government moda­ lities, norms and operational details Import of Cocoa Nut and Areca Not of financing modernisation of textile industry through a special financial 717. SHRI B V. NAIK: Will the corporation. Minister of COMMERCE be pleased to state: Alleged Discrimination against Hari- J&ns in the New Delhi (a) the quantity in tonnes and value in Rupees of Cocoa Nut and Areca 716. SHRI JHARKHANDE RAI: Nut imported into this country during Will the Minister of FINANCE be the years 1971 and 1972; and pleased to refer to the reply given to (b) what is the quantity in tonnes Unstarred Question No. 803 on 4th of these two commodities that is like­ August, 1972 and state; ly to be imported during the year 1973? (a) whether investigation 'by the State Bank of India into the allega­ tions about the discrimination against THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Harljans in the State Bank of India, MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI AJftxal Khan Branch, New Delhi has A. C. GEORGE): (a) Import figures been completed; for the calendar years 1971 a t* ar* not available as foreign trade 4t*» (b) if so, with, what result; tistics are compiled on financial year* 133 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 134

wise basis Quantity and value at (b) Information relating to the Cocoa-Nut and Betel-Nut (Areca Nut) quantity of coooanut and Arecanut imported during the financial years likely to be imported during the year 1970-71, 1971-72 and 1972-73 (upto 1973 is not available. July, 1972) are given below:— Value tn Rupees Qty. as per Umt

SI. 1970-71 1971-73 1972-73 No. Description Qty. (upto July, 72) Unit Qt>. Val. Qn. Val Qty. Value

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

I Co^otim* (a' Coconuts iresh Nos. .. 600 1111 .. (tv Coconuts, desiccated . Nos. ..• • • ..

Toiai—*1 . Nos. • • • • 600 m i ..

II Betdmtts {Areca Sun) • (s'* Betelnuts, ground . Tonne *• Neg1* 91b .. (b) Betelnuts, split. Tonne .. 60 42000 10 7000

(c) Betelnuts, whole. . Tonne f • •• 30 21860 1 784

'Iutal: II Tonne •• ’• 90 6477* 11 7784

Method of Computing Quantum ol THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Black Mosey by Wandtoo Committee MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. R. GANESH): (a) The Wanchoo Com­ mittee has mentioned in paragraph 718. SHRI B. V NAIK: Will the 2.17 of its Report that the method Minister of FINANCE be pleased to adopted by it was the Kaldor method state: with suitable modifications, bearing in mind the structural changes in the (a) the statistical method by which economy and certain other develop­ the Wanchoo Committee on Direct ments. Taxes came to the conclusion that the asnount of black money in this coun­ (b) No, Sir. The Wanchoo Com* try was Rs. 1,400 crores; mittec has itself observed that the figure given by it is only a ‘guessti­

Financial Assistance ?iven by to various Slates yr»7''>-'7T 1071-72

719. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH MALIK; SHRI BIRENDER SINGH Punjab . . . 8,86-93 8,73-00 RAO; Rajasthan . . 13,17-12 7,68-59

Will the Minister of FINANCE be Tamil Nadu . . 19,25-44 23,59-34 pleased to state; Uttar Pradesh ■ i 5>87-77 17,71-15 (a) the amount of financial assis­ **\Vest Bengal . I I ,11-91 13,80-15 tance given by the Life Insurance Cor­ poration to the various States during Goa . . • 1,07-45 the y-ears 1970-71 and 1971- 72;

(b) the purpose for w^hich the 178,49-85 195,79-66 money was given; and

(c) whether Government have a proper check over its utilisation and **lncludes assistance to Calcutta Metro­ if so, the type of check exercised? politan Development Authority.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE N.B. Market purchases by LIC of MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI- securities, shares and debentures are M ATI SUSHILA ROHATGI); (a) T he not in clu d ed in the above statement. an'iounts of financial assistance given by Lie to the various State-s during (b) The broad distribution of in­ the y e a rs 1970-71 and 1971-72 are as vestment;. and the purpose thereof u n d er;— are given belov.”

(Ruree;i in lakhs.) ____

Type of Investments Purpose State 1970-71 1971-72

I. State Government General developmen i\-L id h ra Pradesh . 12,24-04 10,09-38 Securities. of the State.

Assam . . . 3,07-94 5,91-76 2. Loans to State Housing and allied Government. schemes. Bihar . . . 8, i 5- 52 7,81-81 3. Loans to Munici­ Water supply and Delhi . . . 1,22-52 2,32-96 pal Committees drainage schemes and Zila Parishads in urban areas. Pi­ *Guiarat . , 21,32-73 22,45-60 ped water supply scheme in rural areas. Haryana . . 7,76-52 ^<,29-34 4. Loans to Co­ Housing. For sett­ Himachal Pradesh . 2-47 14-97 operatives. ing up Sugar fac­ tories. Jammu & Kashmir 39-04 7-98 5. Loans to Indus­ For setting up Indus­ Kerala . . . 10,13-94 11,72-22 trial Estates. trial Estates.

Madhya Pradesh . 8,29-94 10,29-04 6. Bonds of State Industrial develop­ Financial Corpo­ ment and generation Maharashtra . . 18,iS- 60 28,25-05 ration and State and transmission of Electricity Board. electricity. M ysore , . 11,44-32 10,06-22 7. Investments in Industrial develop- Orissa . , . 6,S3-75 6,81-10 pubic limited com­■ ment. panies. Pondi::herry . . , . .

*Inc!udes Rs. 25 ■ 00 lakhs for Restoration of damage to water works. ,137 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers Exg

(c) State Government and its agen­ (b) Some of the important coun­ cies to whom LIC makes available its tries which have made investment in resources are expected to use them the last three years are: Canada, for the purposes for which they are France, West Germany, Italy, Japan, intended Moreover the financial Switzerland, Sweden, UK., U.SA., -assistance is only m the form of loans, Belgium, Holland, Austria, Hungary, bonds and securities In the circums­ Denmark, Bulgaria, East Germany, tances, the LIC does not exercise any U S S R , Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia independent check on the utilisation and Bahamas Besides, international of assistance ptovided by it to State institutions like the International Government and their agencies The Bank for Reconstruction and Develop­ LIC, howevei, reviews from time to ment and International Finance Cor­ time the puformance of public limit­ poration have also invested during ed companies in which it has invest­ this period ments and take* appropriate action to safeguard its interests (c) The industry-wise details of in- Vfstment aTc available lor 1968-69 on'y and these arc as follows. — Foi eign Investment

720 SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH Rs ti ics MALIK SHRI BxHENDER SINGH . Amount u to total KAO Will th > Minister of FINANCE be Plantations . . 122 4 7*6 p'fuscrl to state Alining 11 5 O 7 (a) the amount of fom gn invest­ ment m the country durmg the last 3 Petroleum . *. 19S 7 12 X yeats Manufacturing 890 2 <5 2 matter is under consideration, in con­ “19*70-71 are not available. sultation with the State Government 139 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Written Answers

Recommendations of Wanchoo visit he had useful discussions with* CenuMtttoe the Barttiah Ministers cm the trading arrangements in U.K. for Indian two- 722. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Will ducts following the termination of the- the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Indo-U.K. Trade Agreement, 1939 antf to state: safeguard measures for India’s trade* (a) whether the recommendations m the context of the British member­ o f the Wanchoo Committee have seen ship of the enlarged European Econo­ fully implemented; mic Community. (b) if not, the reason therefor; and A copy of the Joint Communique issued after the discussions is laid on (c) what positive steps have been the Table of the House which give* taken to unearth the black money? details of the outcome of the discus­ sions. [Placed in Library. See THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE No. LT-4252/731. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. R. GANESH): (a) and (b). A compre­ Interim Relief to pensioners as a result hensive Bill to implement such of the of rise in prices recommendations of the Wanchoo Committee, as have been accepted by 724 SIIRI S M BANERJEE Will the Government, is being introduced the Minister of FINANCE be pleased in the current session of Parliament to state- (c) Apart from the above Bill . to (a) whether any interim relief is be introduced m Parliament, several hkelv to be given to the pensioners administrative measures have also in view of the abnormal rise in prices; been taken; and these include increase and in the tempo of searches and seizures, more prosecutions, selective use of (b) if not, the reason for the same? powers of survey under section 333A of the Income-tax Act, survey of those THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE who have constructed or acquired new MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. properties, and also creation of a R GANESH) (a) and (b). Govern­ special cell in the Directorate of Ins­ ment propose to consider the question pection (Investigation) for keeping of grant of relief to the Central Gov­ a watch over the tax matters relating ernment pensioners in the light of the recommendations of the Third Pay to certain big business houses. Commission on the question of pen­ sionary benefits to Central Govern­ Visit of tite Minister of Commerce te ment servants generally. European Countries Raj Committee Report «o afriewtturafr 723. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleas> ed to state: 725. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAFPAN: PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE:: (a) whether his visit to European countries in the month of January, Will the Mimrier of FINANCE be t§73 met with any fruitful result; and pleased to atate: (b) if «o, the ^outcome thereof? (a) whether Government bftve takd train­ of Rs. 5 lakhs and above. The study ing for better motivation and related to the year ending March 31, higher productivity, etc. 1971. The main findings were: Government ar* aware el Hate {*) Of me companies studied, 99 special problems the rmipfejr we*e companies eatevptaat, p a r t i ^ f t * Heyveli 143 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 W ritten Answers 144

Lignite Corporation, which is experi­ rence is presumably to the decision encing a number of technological taken by the Government that handicaps. Necessary remedial action State will be permitted to regard over­ has been initiated based on a special drafts on the Reserve Bank of India .study of these problems. as a budgetary resource. The Mysore Government has not raised any Objec­ Government are keen that these tion to this decision. enterprises improve their operating (b) Does not arise. T e s u lt s so as to make a larger contri­ bution to the economic development of the country and also geneiate Proposal to Establish Joint Indo- greater internal resources to finance British Economic Commissions their own growth. 729 SHRI D B CHANDRA GOWDA: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be Bill to curb black money pleased to state: 727 SHRI C K CIIANDRAPPAN (u) whjther India has exchanged Will 1he Minister of FINANCE be notes w ith U K on a pi oposal to estab­ pleased to state* lish joint Indo-Butish Economic Com­ (a) whether there is any pioposals missions toi finding avenues of gicater co-operation between the two coun- to bung a Bill to curb the black ti let and mone>; (b) if so, what are the salienj iea- it o the reaction oi British Go vu n mont thci eto'* tures thereof, and (c) when it it, likel> to he lntiouuc- THE DEPUTY MINISTER ]N THE ed? MINISH£Y OF COMMERCE

728. SHRI D. B. CHANDRA GOWDA: Clubbing of incomes of wife and Will the* Minister of FINANCE be husband for income-tax pleased to state: 730 PROF MADHU DANDAVATE: (a) whether Mysore Government Will the Minister ol FINANCE be have urged upon the Central Govern­ pleased to state: ment to adopt a lenient and sympathe­ tic view so far as the question of (a) whether non-clubbmg of in­ over-drafts is concerned; and comes of husband and wife has led to tax-avoidance on a lai;ge scale; and (b) if so, the reaction of the Central Government thereto and what are the (b) if so, whether there »s any pro­ latest guidelines laid down by Gov­ posal to club these incomes* ernment in this regard? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. R. GANESH): (a) Although Govern­ It. GANESH): (a) No Sir. The refe­ ment is aware that the taxation of an 145 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 146

individual as a separate unit of issess- Rules 1971 also deals with taking msnt und-°r the Tncowie-tax Act, 1961 photographs of prohibited placcs cr • and the Wealth-tax Act, 1957 (instead protected areas in an unauthorised -:of the adoption of the family consisting manner. -of husband, wife and minor children (c) The Traffic Officer of Indian ..as a unit of taxation) has facilitated Airlines on duty at Palam made all tax avoidance, the precise extent of possible efforts to find out the person :the tax avoidance is not known. concerned but apparently he had al­ ready gone and could not be located. (b) The matter is under considera­ Indian Airlines are being asked to tion. direct their cabin staff to be particu­ larly careful and to ensure that the Complaint against a Foreigner travel­ rules regarding prohibition of photo­ ling from Bombay to Delhi by I.A. graphy are not infringed. flight on 12th November 1972 for taking photographs from the aircraft Restoration of increments of Reserve Bank employees suspended as a result 731. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: of strike of June, 1972 Will the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state; 732. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: (a) whether a passenger travelling Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: from Bombay to Delhi on the Indian Airlines Flight on the 12th Novem ­ (a) whether the Reserve Bank of ber, 1972 had lodged a complaint that India Employees’ Association Bombay a foreigner travelling by that flight has written io the Bank pointing out had photographed from the aircraft that the suspension of increments of different spots including the Delhi the Reserve Bank employees partici­ Airport; pating in the strike of June, 1972 was in violation of the agreement arrived (b) whether this involves the viola­ at with the Association on 1st July, tion of the Defence of India Act and 1972; the Security Rules; a.nd (b) if so, the attitude of the Reserve (c) if so, the steps taken against the Bank in this connection; and passenger concerned in particular snd (c) whether the Reserve Bank of to avoid such incidents in general? India propose to restore the increments of the employees concerned? THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (DR. KARAN THE MINISTER OF FINANCE SINGH); (a) Yes, Sir. Detailed en­ (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAV AN); quiries were made in the matter. An (a) Yes, Sir. Air Hostees remembers seeing a pas­ senger fidgeting with his camera and (b) and (c). Reserve Bank of India telling him that photography in flight are satisfied tha*’ no action has been or at airports was prohibited. She taken by them in contravention of the also recalls that at the time of deplain- agreement of 1st July, 1972. ing, the passenger concerned denied having tajcen any photographs. Investment of L.I C. in public limi­ ted companies in the private sector (b) Rule 13 of the Aircraft Rules, 1937 prohibits photography from an 733. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: aircraft in flight except in accordance Will the Minister of FINANCE be with and -subject to the terms and pleased to state: , conditions of permission, granted by the Director General o f Civil .A.viation. (a) whether the financial institu­ Rule 52(b) of the Defence of India tions, like the Life Insurance Corpo- 147 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Written Answer* J48£

ration, still give priority to big houses public sector banks have to work 'fbr-. in tiie field of investment; social obj«ctiye» and Their, functioning if ' ' ■ (b) the latest figures of Life Insu­ under review by the ,R©sery* Bacnk « f rance Corporation’s investment in the India and the Government so as public limited companies in the pri­ take any qualitative corrective actioi* vate sector; that is considered necessary. (c) whether in view of the need to expand the public sector, the pat­ Directions to Banks re: Liberalising tern of investment is proposed to be Credits for small industries and for altered; and agricultural purposes (d) if so, the broad outlines thereof? 735. SHRI R. S. PANDEY: Will th e THE MINISTER OF FINANCE Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): state: (a) No, Sir, Investment decisions are taken by public financial institutions (a) whether the banks have been strictly on merits having regard to directed to liberalise credits for small the considerations of Return, appre­ industries and for agricultural pur­ ciation and safety of investments. poses in the rural areas; and

(b) According to the latest audited (b) if so. the gist of direction* figures available as on 31st March, issued? 1872, the investments of the Life In­ surance Corporation in Terms loans, THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Debentures, Preference shares and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI Equity shares of Public Limited Com­ SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) and

(b) whether any improvements in­ Crisis !o to their working are being made ai a result thereof and if so, the nature 736. SHRI R. S. FAND*Y: W B t the Minister of COMMERCE be ula*f . ■ THE MINISTER OF FINANCE *d to stater (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): (a) whether th* Jwte indwtiy I*.. <*) *nd (b ). After nationalisation the *4 9 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Wr tten Answers 150

- (W w hether the Indian M » Mill® (c> if so, the findings thereof and JUioeUlllon has pointed out the diffi- the steps taken to stabilise conditions ^ultleg faced by this industry, and the e m ordet to earn more foreign exchange by increasing trade7 (c> if so, the steps taken by Gov­ ernment to remove the difficulties to THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE ensure smooth development of this MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI industry’ A C GEORGE) (a) to (c). No, Sir But some entrepreneurs have reoen- ly brought to the notice of Govern­ ment certain practical difficulties THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE coming in the way of better perfor­ MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI mance Government are seized of the A . C GEORGE) (a) to (c) There same and the matter is receiving due ip no crisis m the Jute Industry The attention Industry is curiently faced with two mam problem-,, namely (i) shortage o f raw jute resulting from the short crop m the current season and (u) System of Recruitment to the various their competition in foreign market posts of Scheduled Batiks from synthetic products of Bangla­ desh 738 PROF NARAIN CHAND PA- RASHAR Will the Minister FINA­ 2 In ordei to meet the cuirent NCE be pleased to state shortage of fibre a contract has been concluded foi the import t>f 2 lakh (a) whether Government are con­ {bales of jute from Bangladesh Fur­ sidering any proposal for having a ther imports are aho contemplated Public Sen ice Commission for mak­ Government have already reduced the ing recruitment to the various posts export duty on jute primary carpet ol Scheduled banks in India in view lacking, by Rs 400 per tonne to make of many complaints regatdmg the pre­ it competitive with synthetics The sent system of recrujtment m these other remedial measures contemplated banks^ ■are (a) research and pioduct develop­ ment, (b) promotion and publicity (b) if m> the date by which a de­ *hd (c) provision of adequate funds cision m this regard would be taken, to meet th*» requirements under the and items (a) and (b) (c) if not, whether Government Crisis In Kandla Free Trade Zone ha\e any other alternative proposal to retain the confidence of the people in recruitment policy of the&e banks 737 SHRI K S PANDEY Will the which has become an object of severe Mlftfster of COMMERCE be pleased to JKtfcte* criticism0

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (a) whether the Kandla Trade (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): Zone facing crisis due to certain ^difficulties being experienced by the (a) to (c) The recommendation of traders there; the Banking Commission to set up statutorily a common recruitment agency for all the public sector banks (t>) it so, whether Government for recruitment of staff of thfcir banks * »v e made investigations into such both at clerical and junior officers ••port*; and level, is still under consideration. 151 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Written Answers 1 f t *

A m biance from World Bank for Pro­ THE MINISTER OF STATE INTHK jects in Jammu and Kashmir, Hima­ MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. chal Pradesh, Punjab and Haryana R. GANESH): (a) and (b). The n e w twenty rupee note has been issued 739. PROF. NARAIN CHAND only with effect from 1st June, 1972 ' PARASHAR: Will the Minister of and judging from the extent to which, FINANCE be pleased to state: this note has been printed and des­ patched to the Currency Chests and * (a) the number and names of pro­ agency banks all over the country so • jects in J&K, Himachal Pradesh, far, there are reasons to believe that Punjab and Haryana for which the the availability of this note is still World Bank has given financial assis­ not adequate. The existing Note print­ tance in the past; ing capacity being limited it will take approximately another six months (b) the amount given, project-wise; time before sufficient quantity of this and note can be printed and made freely (c) the number and names of pro- available. jetcs for which the assistance of World Bank has been sought by these State Governments for 1971-72 and Branches of Nationalised Banks thereafter? working in various districts of Himachal Pradesh THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI YL'SHWANTRAO CHAVAN): 741 PROF NARAIN CHAND (a) to (n). A credit of US Dollars PARASHAR: Will the Minister of 10 million was obtained in November FINANCE be pleased to state: 1961 from the International Develop­ ment Association CIDA), a soft-loan (a) the names of branches of the affiliate of the World Bank, for a nationalised banks working in Chamb, flood protection and drainage project Kulu, Mandi, Kangra, Hamirpur, Bi~ in the composite State of Punjab. laspur and Una Districts of Himachal Agreement*? werP also signed with Pradesh: IDA in June 1970 for a credit of US Dollars 27 5 million, and in June 1971 (b) whether loans are advanced by for -a Credit of US Dollars 25 million, these branches to the farmers, Trans­ for agricultural Credit Projects *n the port, operators. Small Scale Industria­ States of Punjab and Haryana respec­ list, petty shopkeepers and self- tively. No IDA credit has so lar been employed people; and given for Himachal Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir, but a proposal (c) if so, the bank-wise loans ad­ for obtaining, an IDA Credit for Hi­ vanced by the banks upto the end of machal Pradesh Apple Marketing Pro­ December, 1972? ject is under consideration. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Shortage of 20-Rupee Notes MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI- MATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) 740 PROF. NARAIN CHAND The requisite information is being col­ PARASHAR; Will the Minister of lected and will be laid on the Table FINANCE be pleased to state: of the House. (a) whether there is a shortage of 20-Rupee Notes in the country; and (b) and (c). The nationalised banks lay special emphasis on extending ad­ (b) if so, the reasons for this shor­ vances to the priority sectors which tage and the date by which it would cover farmers, transport operators* be overcome? i small scale industrialists, petty shop- IJ3 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 154’-

keepers, self-em ployed people etc. sectors in Himachal Pradesh which The latest information of the advanc­ relates to the last Friday of June, es of the nationalised blanks to these 1972 are set out below*

Amount : Rs. in lakhs..

Agriculture Road and Small Retail Profes- Name of the bank water Scale Trade sionalsand’ Direct Indirect transport Industries and Small self­ operators business employed. persons

(I) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7)

Central Bank of India. . 3-85 o-o6 1-69 7-49 1-25 0-04 Punjab National Bank . i '58 0-86 I-7I 0-46 0-02 Union Bank of India. . 0-86 0-29 0-83 0-04

United Commercial Bank. 2-88 1-57 0-68 3-00 ••

9-17 o-o6 4-12 10-17 5-54 0-10

♦Figures are provisional.

Debt Relief from Aid India consortium (b) The external debt servicing for the year 1972-73 is estimated to 742. SHRI R. R. SINGH DEO: amount to $ 670.4 million. The debt SHRI HUKAM CHAND relief of $ 148 million expected to be KACHWAI: received will reduce the burden of debt servicing to that extent. Will the Minister of FINANCE to pleased to state: (c) Debts are being repaid on due dates. In view of the heavy burden (a) the amount, if any, committed of servicing the debts (i.e. repayment by the Aid India Consortium for debt of principal and payment of intere.st)„ relief to India; Government has stressed the impor­ (b) the extent to which this amount tance of augmenting foreign exchange would help up repay debts incurred earning through exports and tio keep so far; and foreign exchange spending on im­ ports etc. to the minimum necessary. (c) the manner in which the out­ standing debts are proposed to be Economic Co-operation/ with Spain cleared by Government? 743. SHRI R. R. SINGH DEO: W ill THE MINISTER OF FINANCE the Minister of COMMERCE be pleas­ (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): ed to state: (a) At the Aid India Consortium (a) whether the Spanish Foreign meeting held in Jn”e. 1972, members Minister recently visited India and considered the question of providing had some talks with him regarding debt relief to India for t' - Indian greater economic co-operati'on between fiscal years 1972-73 and 19V" 74. In­ India and Spain; dia expects to receive debt relief of about $148 million for 1972-73. ' (b) if so, the outcome thereof; and'. 155 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Written Answers 156'

(c) the anticipated volume of trade including private atctcnr and foreign between the two countries consequent banks qr the other. To the extent upon the latest understanding* possible, this information will be col­ lected and laid on the Table of the THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE House when available. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A C. GEORGE): (*) Yes, Sir. The Seizure of Mini Mint in Baroda Spanish Foreign Minister visited In­ dia in December, 1972 745 SHRI R K. SINHA Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to (b) and (c). A Trade and Economic state> Cooperation Agreement and a Pro­ tocol between India and Spam was (a) whether a mini mint was seized sigjned on 14.12-1972 during the visit In Baroda manufacturing counterfeit o f the Spanish Foreign Minister A 50 paise coins, and copy of this Agreement has been plac_ ed m the Parliament Library The (b) the number of coins seized «nd agreement does not stipulate trade the number, names and other parti­ between India and Spam taking place culars of the persons arrester in this under any dealing system and its connection and the action taken volume will, thetelore, depend on against them’ trade contracts being concluded on normal commercial consideiations THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K R GANESH) (a) and (b) Baroda Persons arrested for cheating in City Police unearthed a racket for Banks manufacturing counterfeit 50 paise com on 14th November, 1972 3,155 744 SHRI R K SINHA counterfeit coins of 50 paise were SHRI M KATHAMUTHU iound leady for circulation and 48,200 cut pieces of the siz® of 50 paise coins Will the Minister of FINANCE be weie intercept’d while under process pleased to state ot manufacture Five persons viz Nat- (a) the total number of persons ai- \ailal Mohanlal Mistry, Samsuddm rested dunng 1972-73 so far on the Ismail Vora Tribhovan Narsibhai Soni, charge of cheating bank* in the coun­ Narsibhai Virjibhai Som and Moha­ try; mad Amm alias Mohamad Unis Issan- uddin have been arrested and a cri­ (b) the particulars of the incidents minal case under Sections 232, 233, 234, and the persons so arrested, and 235 and 239 I PC has been registered (c) the action taken against them against them. The case is still under and the extent to which the banks investigation had tt> suffer loss on this account7 Measures to check malpractices in­ THE MINISTER OF FINANCE dulged in by International Airlines (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): operating in India (a) to (c) Cases of arrests on ac­ 746 SHRI R K. SINHA* Will the count of cheating form oart of the Minister of TOURISM AND CIVIL normal law and order problems, in­ AVIATIOn be pleased to state: formation regarding which is main­ tained by the State Governments, The (a) whether it hat eome to the no­ required information in the present tice of Government that some Inter­ case will have to be collected from national Airlines operating in India various State Governments and Union indulge in malpractices resulting in 'Territories’ administrations, on the diversion of traffic and los8 of foreign •one hand and the commercial banks exchange; and 157 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 158

(b) if so, the remedial measures (c) if &o, an outline thereof? adopted by Government to check these malpractices by foreign airlines? THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): THE MINISTER OF TOURISM (a) The required information is given AND CIVIL AVIATION (DR. KARAN in the Statement laid on the Table of SINGH): (a). Government are aware the House. [Placed m library. See that some international airlines in­ No. LT-4253/73]. dulge in malpractices which result in the diversion of traffic and loss of (b) and (c). Industrial concerns foreign exchange. located in any district whether noti­ fied as backward or not are eligible (b) The following measures have for financial assistance from the In­ been taken to deal with the situation: dustrial Finance Corporation of India. (i) Reduced return excursion The Corporation continues to extend fares have ibeen introduced sympathetic considerations to appli­ between the USA and India, cations emanating from the notified (ii) Reduced return youth taxes backward districts and offers assistan­ have been introduced between ce subject to their being found eco­ India and France. nomically viable and technically fea­ sible. The Corporation has not rejec­ (iii) A charter company has been ted any applications for financial as­ established by Air India for sistance m respect of such projects operation of charters at cheap located in notified backward districts fares. during the last three years. (iv) A new rule has been incor­ porated in the Aircraft Rules, Inter-departmental Committee to whereby it is compulsory for check goods before customs clearance airlines to file their tariffs 748. SHRI C. CHITTIBABU: Will with the Director General of the Minister of FINANCE be pleased Civil Aviation for approval. to state: Apart from the above measures, a close watch is being maintained by (a) whether a proposal for the the International Air Transport Asso­ constitution of an inter-Departmental ciation enforcement organisation as Committee to check goods before well as by our own governmental au- clearance by the Customs Department thorties concerned with the infringe­ was made by the State Trading Cor­ ment of the foreign exchange regu­ poration; lations. (b) if so, the action taken by Gov­ ernment thereon; and Financial assistance given by 1 F.C. (c) what are the methods through to less developed Districts which the Customs Department is 747. SHRI C. CHITTIBABU; Will trying to prevent mal-practices in the Minister of FINANCE be pleased this regard? to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (a) the break-up o f 68 less deve­ THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI loped Districts and S Union Territories K. R. GANESH): (a) and (b). In a which have been given financial as** letter written to the Collector of sistance of Rs. 107.11 crores by the Customs, Bombay, in May 1971 the Industrial Finance Corporation of State Trading Corporation suggested India; that a Committee consisting of repre­ (b) whether there is any plan to sentatives from Customs, State Trad­ extend financial assistance by the ing Corporation and Textile Commis­ Corporation to the remaining 148 less sioner’s Office way be constituted to developed Districts and 5 less develop­ inspect the imported consignments of ed Union Territories; and ‘ragp’ in order to advise the Customs 3401 L.S.— 6 Written Answers FJRBHUARY 23, 1079 Written Answers j 6o whether the goods were rags. The curities as at the end of December, suggestion, given by the S.T.C. for 1970, 1971 and 1972 constituted 23.7 inspection of consignment of woollen per cent, 23.7 per cent and 25.4 per rags was not found to be acceptable cent respectively of their total depo­ by the Custom House since no exper­ sits. tise was necessary in distinguishing rags from wearable garments and as (c) No bank is prevented from con­ this would have led to delay in clear­ sidering bankable proposals. ing the consignments Further the Views expressed by Chairman of Customs have at their disposal the I.FC. in regard to capital for­ services of technical experts in Cus­ mation with individuals toms Laboratories in case of need e-g > whether the imported goods are wool­ 750 SHRI C CHITTIBABU- Will len or synthetic. the Minister of FINANCE be pleased (c) In order to prevent the mal­ to state practices of the type preferred to by the State Trading Corporation the (a) whether Government are aware Customs authorities have tightened of the view expressed by the Chair­ the procedure for examination of man of the Industrial Finance Corpo- consignments of woollen ‘rag/*’. The lation of India expressed by him in method for selection of ‘bales’ for the Annual Genera] Meeting on the examination has been revised to eli­ 28th September, 1972 that today capi­ minate mal-practices on the part of tal formation with individuals is ne­ importers Also* the bales are examin­ gligible and whatever capital forma­ ed under the supervision of an Assis­ tion exists today is with the establish­ tant Collector of Customs es and successful companies, and Credit deposit ratio in Commercial (b) if so, the steps proposed tt> be Banks taken by Government m finding a 749 SHRI C CHITTIBABU Will solution to this problem7 the Minister of FINANCE be pleased THE MINISTER OF FINANCE to state (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): (a) the credit-deposit ratio in the (a) and (b) The reference by the Commercial Banks during the last Chairman ot Industrial Finance Cor­ three years; poration of India lfc, to the problems (b) the percentage of purchase faced by the new enti epreneurs and Government securities during the last technologists intending to piomote in­ three years by the commercial banks; dustrial projects m raising resources and to be contributed by them as promo­ (c ) whether the commercial banks ters’ equity. The endeo\ our of the have been prevented from lending lending institutions is to meet these funds to many development agencies gaps to the extent possible. like the State Elect lcity Boards un- Loss suffered due to operation of till the ‘approach* to Fifth Plan is Avros by Indian Airline* over? 751 SHRI RANABAHADUR THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE SINGH* MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI- SHRI BIJOY MODAK- MATI SUSHILA ROHATGI): (a) The credit-deposit ratio of scheduled Will the Minister of TOURISM commercial banks as at the end of AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to December 1970, 1971 and 1972 was state: 783 per cent, 72 per cent and 08,3 8 (a) whether there has been * loss per cent respectively. of over rupees three crore annually (b) The investment of scheduled to the Indian Airlines due to the use commercial banks in Government se­ of 14 Avros; and l 6l Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SA K A ) Written Answers 162

(b) whether the Indian Airlines has THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE approached Government for a subsidy MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI to compensate it for the losses it has A. C. GEORGE); (a> and (b). There been suffering as a result of the con­ is only one factory, namely, Wig In­ tinue^ operation of the avro (HS-748) dia, Madras, run by State Trading aircraft in its fleet and if so, the Corporation of India, which is manu­ reaction of Government thereto? facturing wigs for exports. Govern­ ment is not aware oi any other unit THE MINISTER OF TOURISM manufacturing wigs for export. Ex­ AND CIVIL AVIATION (DR. KARAN port of wigs started falling from 1968- SINGH): (a) The profitability of an 69 onwards due to general decline in aircarft depends on a variety of fac­ demand for human hair wigs as a tors such as the sectors on which it result of the advent of and growing, is used, the load factors achieved, popularity of cheap synthetic wigs, direct and indirect operating costs which account today for bulk of and the fare structure. The Avro HS- international demand. Wigs India has 748 is being used mainly on regional now diversified its production acti­ routes which have short stpge lengths vities to other fields. and where load factors are not very high. It would, therefore, not be Proposal to Gamliw Lad Trad* . appropriate to make a generalised through STC type-wise assessment of profitability; Experience shows that the majority 753. SHRI S. P. BHATTACHARY- Of regional routes operate at a loss. YA: Will the Minister of COMMERCE Indian Airlines is Performing a pub­ be pleased to state: lic service and it is not possible for it to operate only on the profitable (a) the average price of raw lac sectors. Since the regional routes are received by the producers from the lac normally the losing sectors, and the traders; HS-748 are mainly operating on them, it is correct that in the overall pic­ (b) the average price of finished ture these aircraft are operating at lac sent for export; and a loss. (c) whether Government have any (b) While no such request has proposal to canalise this trade through yet been received, Government has State Trading Corporation to safe­ been, subsidising certain uneconomic guard the interests of the lac produ­ routes including some of the opera­ cers and also the industry? ted with Avro aircraft. Government is also giving Indian Airlines some sub­ THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE sidy towards the purchase of these MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI planes. A. C. GEORGE): (a) and (b). Ave­ rage export price of hand-made and machine-made shellac exported dur­ Wig Industry In. India ing April-August, 1972, was Rs. 608 and Rs. 665 per quintal respectively. 752. SHRI S. P. BHATTACHARY- The average price received by the YA; Will the Minister o f COMMERCE producers is difficult to state; it is, be pleased to state: however, understood, that in recent months due to over-all spurt in prices (a) whether wig industry in our the prices paid to producers too. have country is in a critical state; and shown a marked increase;

(b) if so, what steps Government (c) There is no proposal to cana­ are taking to save this industry and lise lac trade through State Trading the persons involved in this industry? Corporation. 163 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Written Answers X64

Rise In Prices, of Agricultural Com­ been replaced from January 1973, in. modities, industrial Raw Materials and many States by the Food Corpora­ industrial manufactures tion of India for bringing sugar from the factories to the fair price shops. 754. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will Distribution of controlled varieties the Minister of FINANCE be pleased of cloth was channelled through pub­ to state: lic agencies from November 1, 1972 (a) the price rise registered at and the margin between the ex­ the end of 1972 over 1971 prices of factory price and the retail price agricultural commodities, industrial brought down from 20 per cent to 12.5 raw materials and industrial manu­ per ccnt. It has also been decided factures; to take over the wholesale trade in wheat and rice, which would (b) its effect on the declining further strengthen the puiblic dis­ value of the rupee and also the living tribution system. It may be pointed conditions of the vast majority of the out that the rise in the General people; Index of wholesale Prices, 19C1-62— 100) during the last two (c) the reasons for which Gov­ months, i.e between November 1972 ernment are finding themselves un­ and January 1973, is estimated at 1.1 able to contain their prices; and per con* a* against 1.8 per cent bet­ (d) whether Government have ween November 1971 and January considered any radical measures to 1972 and 1.3 per cent between Novem­ stop further rise in their prices and, ber 1970 and January 1971. Similar­ if so, the broad outlines thereof? ly the All India Industrial Workers* Consumer Prices Index (1960— 100) THE MINISTER OF FINANCE for December 1972 (the latest avail­ (SHRI YESWANTRAO CHAVAN): able) has remained steady at its level (a) Wholesale price indices (1961- of 210 for November 1972. 62 — 100) of the various groups which form part of the official index including those for food articles in­ S t a t e m e n t dustrial raw materials and manu­ Index Nmbers of Wholesale Prices factures for December 1971 and December 1972, and the order of (1961-62^=100) variations are given m the statement, Index Nos. Percent- ^b) to (d). In a situation characte­ rised by a decline in the output of Group Decem­ Decem­ ation in ber ber basic agricultural commodities such 1972 « 1971 1972 over|l as foodgrains, oilseeds, and sugarcane 1971 some price rise was perhaps unavoi­ dable. The effect the shortfall in Food Articles . 2043 244’ 1 + 19-5 agricultural production has , been Liquor & Toba­ sought to be moderated through an cco. . 198-6 239 4 + 20-5 emergency production programme, Fuel, Power, as also through imports. The public Light & Lubri­ distribution system has been expand­ cants. . 174*5 181-4 +4-0 ed and the releases of foodgrains Industrial Raw from Government stocks have been Materials. 184-7 2l8-l + I8-X stepped up. Partial statutory control on prices and distribution of sugar Chemicals. 201*5 202-0 -f-o* 2 was introduced from July 1, 1972; the Machinery and Transport share of levy sugar has been raised Equipment. . 161 7 169*7 +4*9 from 63 5 to 70 per cent (including export commitment) from, October Manufactures. 168-I 178*0 +5*9 1, 1972 and a uniform issue price All Commodities 211*4 introduced. The wholesalers have 185*9 + 13*7 i6$ Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 166

Volume of India's Imports and cakes, fich, chemicals and Exports during 1972-73 allied products, raw cotton, cotton apparel, cotton yarn, 75S. SHRI S. R. DAMANI: Will wood lumber and cork ma­ the Mnister of COMMERCE be plea­ nufactures paper, rubber sed to state: manufactures incl. crude (a) the value of exports and im­ rubber, mineral fuels, lubri­ ports in the first ten months of the cants and related materials -current year and how they compare (incl. coal and coke), ferro­ with that of the previous year; manganese and ferro-alloys, raw wool, groundnuts, raw (b) the items in which there was jute and mica. a spurt or decline under both the (ii) Export items which have heads; and shown decline during April-August, 1972 over April-August, 1971: (c) the volume of trade expected Iron ore, iron and steel (prime), during the remaining two months sugar manganese ore, fabrics and the major items thereof? of artsilk fibre and spunglass castor oil, onions, rice and THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE iron and stell scrap. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A. C. GEORGE): (a) India’s trade (iii) Import items which have year coincides with financial year ie., shown increase during April—July, April-March. As such the value of 1972 (latest, available commodity- wse) over April—July, 1971: India’s imports and exports for the period April—November, 1972 (latest Machinery, pulp and waste paper, available) compared with April- dairy products and eggs, and November, 1971 is given below: fruits and vegetables (cashew nuta). India's foreign Trade during April— (iv) Import items which have November, 1972 shown decline during April—July 1972 over April—July, 1971: (Value in Rs. crores.) Cereals and cereal prcpaiottuns, raw cotton, raw wool, April- April- tage Nov., Nov. in chemical elements and com­ pounds, medicinal and phar­ 1971 1972 April- Nov., maceutical products, fertili­ 1972 zers manufactured, paper, paper board and manufactu­ Imports . 1190-39 1097*49 —7' 8 res, thereof, non-ferrous metals, transport equipment, Exports incl. i-23* I crude fertilizers and crude re-exports. . 1006-45 1239-28 minerals (excl. coal, petro­ leum and precious stones), (b) (i) Export items which have textile yarn and thread and shown increase during April-August, iron and steel. 1972 (latest available commodity (c) India's export performance wise) over April-August, 1971; during the first eight months (April Jute manufactures, leather and November) of current financial year manufactures excl. footwear, 1972-73 has been quite encouraging tea, engineering gjoodis, Exports during this period reached pearls precious and semi­ a total of Rs. 1239.28 crores, record­ precious stones, tobacco un­ ing an increase of Rs. 232.83 crores manufactured, cashew ker­ or 23 per cent as compared to ex­ nels, cotton piecegoods, oil­ ports of Rs. 1006.43 crores during 167 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1979 Written Answers x68

April—N ovember, 1971. If this sisting of representatives of period is any indication, India’s ex­ the producing countries. ports during 1972-73 are expected to achieve the target o f Rs. 1760 (iv) Subject to the International crores, larger contribution coming agencies contributing 50 per from leather and leather manu­ cent of the anttual budget of factures, cotton piecegoods, cashew expenditure for a period of kernels, pearls precious and semi­ five years, the other S0» precious stones etc. per cent would he contribut­ ed by ihe producing countries On the other hand, imports at Rs. in proportion to the value 1097.49 crores were lower by 7.8 per of their exports of jute and cent, as result of which the balance jute manufacture during the of trade turned into a surplus of Rs. three years ending 1969*70. 141.79 cSrores during April—Novem­ These conclusions are subject to ber, 1972 as against a deficit of Rs. ratification by the producing coun­ 183.94 crores during: April-November, tries. 1971. Although, India’s imports are showing a declining trend at present qrhr wlm & iff* ft this trend is likely to be reversed as larger imports of crude oils steel, wTf i m m * * km fertilizers and foodgrains are visuali- ted; and 7 58. ft* : Conference of Jute Growing Coun­ tries ffiw Tfcft q? «rcn% # f^TT fa : 757. DR. RANEN SEN: Will the Minister of COMMERCE be pleased ( * ) *jtt rpsfta f?r ^ m (far to state: t t h ! aftai srfirer farsrrlr (a) whether a Conference of Jute # qTer sffar % ^t% growing countries has taken place in Dacca in which India also participa­ fapftFrt f ^ r ; *rVr ted; and (b) if so, the broad outlines of the (*?) sr, wr % ? decisions taken at the Conference? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE faff MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI qpffcTT : (*) «T> (^ ) : A. C. GEORGE)- (a) Yes, Sir, under the auspices of the U.N.D.P. (b) The following conclusions qr were reached at the Conference: w k QTrvrft % t5kt sftr (i) An International Centre ^TBTT *TT % f^FTR § known as “Jute International \ _ .. ... ^ _ r* v will be set up in India to VmeT •Ttjfr maintain a strong and ex­ w w i m T $ t t I panding demand for jute and kenaf and their manufactures to maximise their con­ sumption. farofasr ww % *rra IfT vV WWT Tift? (li) An International Technical Centre for Research and 759. WTOH : Development in Jute would be located in Dacca. 5fcT^ nftit f a : (iii) An International Jute (*>) w t *nrr # i flraw, Board will be constituted as the controlling Board, con­ 1972 % W R tf^ m W T 2746 $T 169 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1994 (SAKA) Written Answers 170

survey reports. The Reserve Bank impresses upon the banks from tithe fa?r % ?mr t c w ft cps to time the need for opeiiing bank ? sftr offices m hitherto unbanked centres. Recently, the Reserve Bank has ed- (< i) *rfc ?ft t o f*FT growf ^ vised the banks to draw up a per­ spective plan; far hraiMfti expansion srtot t *flr wnj ^ for the three year period 1973-1975 ?n^tT * * tt ^ | ? indicating therein the nurttbeir of offices proposed to be opened in rural, selhi urban, urban and metropolitan/ faff *f t;** t rtf# iftfr («f. port towns so as to enable them to formula*their man power plans also % « WTTO JTirff) : (*r) « fk ( ^ ) : in advance. 1 if so. the salient features of weeh Delhi and Nagpur had com­ the plan; and plained that the air traffic control at Palam had given them wrong infor­ (c) the directives of the Reserve mation regarding the weather at that Bank of India in thirs regard and whe­ particular time and that it could re­ ther it should be ensured that the sult into an accident; and directive of the Reserve Bank in res­ pect of opening new Branches is (b) if so, the reaction of Govern­ implemented? ment thereto and the action taken against the persons concerned? THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE THE MINISTER OF TOURISM MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI* AND CIVIL AVIATON (DR. KARAN MATI SUSHlLA ROHATGI): (a) to SINGH) (a) and (b). The news item (c). Public sector banks prepare seem’ to refer to the incident in­ plans for opening of new branches volving Indian Airlines mght Air Mail taking into accdunt their site man­ service from Nagpur to Delhi on power ahd other resources. In these 12-1-1973. The matter has been in­ plans due weightage is given to open­ vestigated and the officials respon­ ing of branches ih rural and semi sible for the supply of inaccurate in­ urban areas and also at the growth formation have been suitably centres identified in the lead bank warned. 171 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Written Answers

Sflttftnc up of a Committee for Price is nothing to indicate that there is Equalisation System of Raw Cotton increase in the smuggling of goods and Jute Bass from India to Bangladesh and vice versa, However, the following steps 762. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR: Will have been taken to prevent smuggl­ the Minister of COMMERCE be ing— pleased to state: (i) Frequent meetings between

Statement (iii) cut pieces of length 45 centi­ metres or more but not exceeding 90 The revised specifications of RAGS centimetres where the width of the and FENTS lor the purpose of mark­ fabric is one metre or more, and of ings on bales or other packages of length 65 centimetres or more but not controlled and non-controlled cloth exceeding 135 centimetres where the under the Cotton Textiles (Control) width of the fabric is less than one Order, 1947, are now as follows:— metre, cut from damaged dhoties or sarees. I. HAGS’ Upper Division Clerks in the Office of (1) bona fide cut pieces of cotton Commissioner of Income Tax, Delhi fabrics of length more than 23 centi­ metres but less than 45 centimetres 765. SHRI HUKAM CHAND KACH- where the width of the fabric is one WAI: Will the Minister of FINANCE metre or more, and of length, more be pleased to state: than 23- centimetres but less than 65 centimetres where the width of the (a) the sanctioned strength of fabric is less than one metre, arising Upper Division Clerks; the staff in during the no-rmal course of manu­ position and the number of posts lying facturing (including processing) or vacant in the said category in. the packing or drawing samples; and Office ot Commissioner of Income-tax Delhi with Headquarters at Delhi (ii) cut pieces of damaged or sub­ during the period from 1st July, 1972 standard cotton fabrics of length more to 31st October. 1972; than 23 centimetres but less than 45 centimetres where the width ot the (b) the number of vacancies fabric is one •metre or more, and of reserved for persons belonging to length more than 23 centimetres but Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes less than 65 centimetres where the during this period, and whether the width of the fabric is less than one vacant posts were notified to the metre. Central (Surplus staff) Cell of Depart­ ment of Personnel, if so, the date of the notification; II. TENTS'

(i) bona fide cut pieces of cotton (c) whether the vacant posts were fabrics (excluding cut pieces of filled up by the staff provided by the towels) of length 45 centimetres or Central (Surplus staff) Cell; and more but not exceeding 90 centimetres (d) if not, whether “No Objection where the width of the fabric is one Certificate” was obtained from the metre or more, and of length 65 centi­ Cell if so, when? metres or more but not exceeding 135 centimetres where the width of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE fabric is less than one metre, arising MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI during the normal course of manu­ K. It. GANESH>: (a) During the facturing (including processing) or period in question, the sanctioned packing or drawing samples; strength in the grade of Upper Divi­ (ii) damages cotton fabric (exclud­ sion Clerks was 731, of which 42 posts ing damaged towels) of length 45 v.ere vacant: centimetres or more but not exceed­ (b) 23 vacancies were reserved -for ing 90 centimetres where the width of Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes the fabric is one metre or more, and and notified to the Central (Surplus the length 65 centimetres or more but staff) Cell on 3rd June, 1972; not exceeding 135 centimetres where the width of the fabric is less than (c) The Central (Surplus staff) one metre; and Cell nominated 4 persons for the 175 Wnttfcn Anstbtrs FEBRUARY 2d, 1873 Written Atutoetg iJS

reserved vacancies who were duly u ) the reasons for la c k of its pro­ appointed against the vacant posts per implementation9 (d) A 'No Objection Certificate’ lor the unfilled reserved vacancies was THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE obtained fiom the Central (Surplus MiNISTkY OF COMMERCE (&HRI staff) Cell on 30th December, 1972 A C GEORGE) (a) to (c) It is. difficult to forecast what might be the actual imports ahd expoits under the ^ # ft ^ ffM H*! Limited Payments Arrangement by the end of the current trade year 706 ««ra|7it3r w r farT *T5ft 3cTl% aft f*TT f*F According to information received frtrm the State BaKk of India, con­ (w ) w tfhr tracts registered, undet the Limite 1 *nr sfawT *rt fe ft t hW Payments Arrangement, upto 31st % 37,000 9TT# «TftcT January, 1973, were of the value of Rs 16 59 crores for exports to Bangla­ ^ r f t 1973 mn ^ fe ft * p R ^ I T desh and of the value of Rs 14 21 t o * f t # ? crores for imports from Bangladesh

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f* * («ft *ms?r tt* Jute Trade with Bangladesh ( v ) (

Collection of arrears of mcwwe-tax the net arrears were reduced as the following figures will show:— 769. SHRI K. BALADHANDAYU- THAM: (In crores o' Rupees) SHRI NAWAL KISHORE SHARMA: Financial Year Demand Budget Net Will the Minister of FINANCE be raised collection arrear <4uring at the pleased to state; the year end of the year (a) the steps taken to speed up the collection of outstanding Income-tax arrears; 1970-71 . . 781 '839* 64 499-6# 1971-72 . .1217 *002-57 438 60

(in) Acceptance of crossed cheques (d) whether any reservation was by the Department and open­ made to accommodate the dependents ing of special receipt countei s o- war casualties? for this purpose in the Income-tax Offices. THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (DB. KARAN ( i v ) Publication of names of SINGH): (a) Indian Airlines had assessees who are defaulters invited applications for the posts of in the payment of taxes over Pilot up to 11-2-1972. certain prescribed limits. (b) 590 applications were received. (v) Arrear Clearance Fortnights 426 candidates,, who were eligible, are being observed al] over were called for interview and 5® have the country. During the been selected. period, special emphasis is laid on carrying emphasis is (c) The candidates were put through adjustments/rectifications, giv­ a test by a senior psychologist and ing effect to appellate orders then interview by a board of aviation and collecting the net demand and technical experts. due from the assessees. (d) No, Sir

coming years to open new branches economic viability in the same way in the rural areas; as in the case of other industrial projects (b) whether training of staff has been taken in hand for the proper Upto ‘.he 31st December, 1972, the projection of such expansion pro­ Cnrpor it 10 ) har1 already sanctioned gramme; and financial assistance aggregating to Rs. 407 49 lakhs to 7 concerns for (c) whether any three year plan is setting up mini-steel plants under preparation in this regard? Complaint lodged by Cashier of 6 3 1 ., THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Gorakhpur regarding circulation, of MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRIMATI Fake Currency Notes of 10 Rupees SUSHILA ROHTAGI): (a) to (c). The Denomination nationalised banks have been advised by the Reserve Bank recently to draw 774. SHRI PILOO MODY: up a perspective plan for branch SHRI SUBENDRA MOHANTY: expansion for the 3 year period 1973— 1975 indicating therein the number of Will the Minister of FINANCE be office proposed to be opened m rural, pleased to state: semi-urban^ urban and metropolitan/ (a) whether the Cashier of the port towns so as to enable them to State Bank of India, Gorakhpur, formulate their man power plans also lodged a complaint w th the Police m advance. A continuous attempt is recently that fake currency notes of being made by the bank to augument Rs. 10 denomination were in circula­ the training facilities to suit the pro­ tion; and jected man power requirements. (b) if so, the reaction of Govern­ Lending of Funds by I.FC. to Min! ment in this regard? Steel Plants THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 773. SHRI PILOO MODY: Will the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Minister of FINANCE be pleased to K. R. GANESH): (a) and (b). No state: fomial complaint was lodged by the Cashier of the State Bank of Indiat (a) whether the Industrial Finance Gorakhpur, with the Police authori­ Corporation has decided to lend funds ties; however, during the normal to mini steel plants; course cf Bank’s business, four forged (b) if so, th^ gist thereof; and notes of Rs. 10 denomination were detected while examining the amounts (c) how would it help in develop­ tendered by four different parties at ment of mini steel plants in the Gorakhpur Branch, which were sent country? to the Police authorities in the usual manner as laid down in the Treasury THE MINISTER OF FINANCE Rules. (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): (a) to (c). The Industrial Finance Decline in Private Foreign Investment Corporation of India has already been in India extending financial assistance to the industrial concerns for setting up 775 SHRI PILOO MODY: Will the scrap based steel plants (mini-steel Minister of FINANCE be pleased to plants) for the manufacture of steel state: billets/ingots and for expansion of (a) whether the net foreign private such plants. Each such project is investment in India has considerably appraised by the Corporation on declined during the last one year; merits subject to its satisfying the tests of technical feasibility and (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and ■1%3 Written, Answers FEBRUARY 23, 197$ Written Answers 184

(c) whether any step® have been ( s r ) taken or are being taken by Govern­ ment to encouiage foreign private ( vt 5nw*r 2 4 wrsi 1m qstment for industrial development and, if so, the broad outlines thereof?

TLHE MINISTER OF FINANCE ( w t ) r * (a) and (b) Compilation of figures <1 aaim oi foxeign private investment are avjjuajlc uptj the year 1970-73 onJ> According to quick estimates pre- 7 7 7 . «ff ffef : srtt paied by the Reserve Bank of India wh *tptc fawnr* «ptt% which provide provisional figures of ^ f^TT % . fore gn investments, the net inflow of foreign private investment (including (*T») SRTT W R R 5P1T- loans* and supplier’s credit) for the yean. 1969-70 and 1970-71 were res­ vfa (w t t ) %?s pectively Rs 29 2 crores and Rs 28 7 % *r teftpr tt ^ ti sF?rr?r crores which do not show any marked decline The net inflows on account h w k % fa^rrcrafar | , of equity investment during the above two yeais came to Rs 90 crores and (m ) Jffa 5ft «ptt generally preferred as a vehicle for transfer of sophisticated ?r«rr w z mfTPPcrmt % T m 1w - technology which is necessary for the i* t o country gfSramt arawr ^ ^>r sr^trt ^ | I 3 # lr % TTSTT Firm? JTnfrsRTsft *Pt | 1

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(*) w ^ ^ 778 SHRI M V KRISHNAPPA SHRI K MALLANNA. % fair TOW t rrap t t t r Will the Minister of TOURISM, AND oqr^-^qrT Wt CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: (sr) zrfe eft w r fcr7 ffaft (a) the stepj> proposed to be taken mwRTcfT v it to develop cultural and religious places of tourist interest in the Mysore State ? ffh: m the near future; (»r) focRT ’ (b) the tentative list of these places selected for the purpose, and

«rx^r sftr fawpw (» r * (c) the assistance proposed to, be given by the Centre to that State for fwf) : (*) aft gr 1 this purpose? I $5 Written An»v>er* PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAK A) Written Answers 186

THE MINISTER OF TOURISM Offer for Economic Ce-aperatton from AND CIVIL AVIATION (PH. KARAN Japan SINGH): (a) to (c). The tourism infra-structure is being developed and 779. SHRI M. V. KRISHNAPPA: strengthened at a number of places in SHRI K. MALLANNA: Mysore State including places of Will the Minister of FINANCE be cultural and other interest. A state­ pleased to state: ment showing the schemes being im­ plemented by the Department of Tourism and the facilities provided by (a) whether Japan has expressed the India Tourism Development Cor­ its intention to offer appropriate co­ poration is attached. operation fo-r economic independence ol nations m the Indian sub-contment; Statemettt and

SI. Schemes under implements- Estimated (b) if so, the reaction of Govern­ No. tion by the Department of cost ment thereto? Tourism. (Rs. m lakhs THE MINISTER OF FINANCE t. Youth Hostel at Kamlapur (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): village near Hampi . . z- 73 (a) and (b). Government have seen 2. Privion of water supply at with considerable interest the foreign Alhole .... 0-16 policy speech of the Foreign Minister 3. Rest House at Bandipur Wild of Japan on January 27, 1973. The Life Sanctuary. . . 7 22 Japanese Foreign Minister has obser­ ved inter alia that Japan intends to 4. Rest House at Dandeli Wild offer appropriate cooperation for the Life Sanctuary. • 6 63 economic independence of the countries 5. Provision of th ree mini-buses, in the Indian sub-constinent. The oneeachatNagarale, Dandeli speech also refers to the Japanese and Bandipur Wild Life Government’s resolve to expand its Sanctuary. . . . 1-23 assistance to the developing nations, 6. Under the Hotel Development to increase the ratio of official deve­ Loan Scheme, two loans lopment assistance to GNP upto the amounting to Rs. 92 lakhs have been approved for two target of 0 7 per cent as soon as hotel project s at Bangalore in possible, to endeavour for the untying m the private sector. . . 92 00 of aid and to improve the terms of aid We welcome these policy objec­ tives of the Government of Japan and The India Tourism Development look forward to closer friendly and Corporation, a Public Sector Under­ economic corporation with that taking is also providing following country. facilities for tourists in Mysore State:

1 . It is proposed to add 100 rooms Voluntary Scheme for Supply of to Hotel Ashoka, Bangalore at an Cotton Yam estimated cost of Rs. 80,000 lakhs. 2. Accommodation at the Travellers' 780 SHRI M. V. KRISHNAPPA: Lodge, Hassan, has been expand­ Will the Minister of COMMERCE be ed by adding an additional wing pleased to state whether Government of 20 double rooms at a cost of of India have reviewed the voluntary Rs. 8.57 lakhs. scheme for supply of cotton yarn of counts 40s and above and if so, how 13. A Travellers Lodge at Bijapur. many cases of yarn were delivered upto 31st August, 1972 and the pricos 4. Transport Units have been set up of different counts of yarn? at Bangalore and Hassan. 187 Written Answers FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Written Answers 188

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE intercepted by Customs Officials of MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Kozhikode in Arbian Sea on the 5th A. C. GEOKGE). Ihe voiuntry sche­ January, 1973; and me for supply of cotton yarn of counts 60s (and not 40s) and above was (b) what steps Government propose brought into force trom the 1st August, to take to check such illegal move­ 1972. This scheme is constantly under ment of persons? review by a Watch Dog Committee THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE set up under the Chairmanship of the MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Textile Commissioner. The allotment K R. GANESH): (a) A lunch *MSV of yam made under the Scheme upto Nurani’ on way to Dubai with 149 the 31st August, 1972, amounted to illegal emigrants and 8 crew members 13,72 lakh Kgs. The regulated prices was intercepted by customs officials of different counts of yarn under the off Kozhikode in Arbian Sea on the Scheme differ from mill to mill, as 5th January, 1973. they are worked out by taking the difference between the highest con­ (b) The customs officials keep close tract price as on 1st June, 1972 (or watch during sea patrols in connec­ the nearest dale) and the highest con­ tion wUh anti-smuggling work and if tract price for the ltnevant count and any case of illegal emigration ta form of packing dunng J muary, 1972, noticed the persons are handed over and deducting 50 per cent of the diff­ to the police for necessary action, erence from the former price. under the provisions of the Passport Act. 1967. Commission on Taxation

7&i. s h r i m . r a m g o f a l #*sff j m faWV REDDY Will the Minister of JTfT nftw tffrRT FINANCE be pleased to state: (a) whether the Tamil Nadu Chief 784. STflT* : WT Minister has demanded the setting up jtttpt farm r vn% of a Taxation Commission to go into the entire field of taxation; and Ot f mr *3% fa : (b) if so, the reaction of Govern­ ment thereto? (ap) mx % Mrcrtfta Oti t ftrar % tw w tw sjtor THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVANV. srfawr fatsft jttt srfacr (a) The Chief Minister Tamil Nadu j suggested in the National Develop­ ment Council meeting held in January ( « ) ?rt, tit anf last that a Taxation Inquiry Commis­ w r | ; sion should be set up to go into tho entire field of taxation. (*t) *r IW W R TOUT (b) No decision has been taken in this regard. («r) JiWnr Ot fvrrfarfa Sr Interception of a launch by Customs Officials near Kozhikode P M | ? 783. SHRI A. K. GOPALAN: Will the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: m z * («?o (a) whether a Launch on way to Dubai with illegal immigrants was 189 Wnttrn Ansi,his PHALGUNA 4, 1891 (S4KA) Written Answers 190

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THE MINISTER OK TOURISM AND to be delivered shoitly after these CIVIL AVIATION (DR KARAN production problems have been re­ SINGH): (a). Yes, Sir. solved (b) and (e) According to thp re­ vised delivery schedule the first oi Tenure of Office held by General the latest batch ol 10 aircraft was to Manager of Subsidiary Bank under he delivered to Indian Airlines in State Raiik of India (Subsidiary April, 1972 and the 10th aircraft in Ranks) Act. Apnl, 1973. So iai three aiieiaft have bt-en received by the Corpoia- 739. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE: tion. Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd, Will the Minister of FINANCE be Kanpur have advised Indian Airlines pleased to state whether under State that there are some production pro­ Hank of India (Subsidiary Banks) blems which aie being examined in Art, the General Manager of a Sub­ consultation with their collaborators sidiary Bank cannot hold office for a M s. Hawker Seddely Ltd. The re­ period exceeding 4 years? maining aircraft are expected to be delivered shortly after these pjoblems THE MINISTER OF FINANCE have been lesolved f SHRI YKSWANTRAO CHAV AN): In terms of section 29(3) (b) of the Delivery of aircraft booked with State Bank of India (Subsidiary If.A.L. by Indian Airlines Banks) Act, 1959, the geneial mana­ ger of a jsubsidiai.v bank shall hold 788. SHRI SAMAK MUKHERJEE’ nfttee foi such term not exceeding Will the Minister of TOURISM AND four ye^rs and subject to such con­ CIVIL AVIATION be plea.sed to state. ditions a> the State Bank may, with (n) what wa«, the original program­ the approval oi the keseive Bank, me of delivery of the last of the ten specify at the time of hi-, appoint­ ujrciafts tor which orders weie placed ment. H(»\*e\0!, under sub-section with H A I by Indian Airlines; '4) of section 29 of the said Act, the geneial manager vacating his office

sector. Pursuant to the recommenda­ Mahabalipuram and for the develop­ tions of the Bhagwan Singh Commit­ ment of beaches in Goa, a field sur­ tee on the working of the Export vey was carried out in November/ Promotion Councils, a number of December 1972 by a Beach Resort steps havft ibeen taken to give to the Development Survey Team appointed small scale sector adequate represen­ under the Technical Assistance Pro­ tation in the Councils and the foreign gramme of the UNDP. Its report is delegations and study teams spon­ expected in July this year. sored by them. A separate Export Promotion Directorate has been set up in the Small Scale Industries Payment of Foreign Travel Tax Development Organisations to look after the development and promotion 792. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: of exports from the small scale sec­ SHRI P. M. MEHTA: tor. A Standing Committee on Ex­ Will the Minister of FINANCE be port Promotion has been appointed to pleased to state; deal with problems relating to exports from the Small Scale Sector and to (a) whether passengers who pay support measures for boosting exports air fares in rupees have to pay Fore­ from this sector. There is also a ign travel tax; Working Group for export production planning of small industries products. (b) whether the tax is payable by Eligible export houses got the benefit those passengers also whose payment of indirect exports only if they ex­ is supported by Encashment Certifi­ cates; and port manufactures of Small Scale Sector. (c) whether any category of pas­ sengers has been exempted from pay­ Scheme to Develop Beach Resorts in ing such tax; if so, the description of the Country the exempted passengers? 791. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN SHRI P. M. MEHTA: THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI Will the MINISTER OF TOURISM K. R. GANESH): (a) Yes, Sir. Under AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased Section 45(1) of the Finance (No. 2) to state: Act, 1971, foreign travel tax has to be paid in respect of every inter­ (a) whether Government are con­ national journey, the fare for which sidering a scheme to develop beach is paid or is payable in Indian cur­ resorts in the country; and rency. (b) if so, the main features there­ (b) Yes, Sir. However, on the of? basis of a representation received THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND from the airlines, a procedure has CIVIL AVIATION (DR. KARAN been prescribed. If this procedure is SINGH): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The followed by a passenger in possession development of a beach resorts at of foreign exchange in the form of Kovalam has already been taken up. foreign currency, travellers cheque, The first phase consisting of 40 cot­ ets., he would not be required to pay tages, a 100-room hotel, a yoga-cum- the tax. massage centre, a theatre for cultural (c) Under Section 46(a) of the programmes, and the introduction above act, the Central Government of aquatic sports is expected to be may, toy notification in the official completed in the Fourth Plan period. Gazette, exempt any class or category A cottage complex at Mahabalipuram of passengers from the payment of is ready & functioning. For the fur­ foreign travel tax. Such notifications ther development of Kovalam and are required to be laid before each 197 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 198

House of Parliament. A gist of such even at reduced prices as the inter­ exemption notifications is given in the national pace is comparatively lower statement laid on the Table of the than the internal market price; House, fPlaced in Library. See No. LT-4254/73]. (b) whether Mysore State has requested the Central Government to Trade Agreement with Spain compensate the State Government as various manufacturing units m the 793. SHRI K LAKKAPPA: State are in the public sector and SHRI P. M. MEHTA: their viability has to be maintained; and Will the Minister of FOREIGN TRADE be pleased to state: (c) if so, the reaction of Central Government thereto? (a) whether any trade agreement, other than that signed in December. 1972, has been signed between India THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE and Spain; and MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A. C GEORGE) • (a) and (b). No (b) if so, the broad features there­ Sir. of? (c) Does not arise THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI Development of Chilka Lake in Orissa A. C. GEORGE): (a) No, Sir. (b) Does not arise. 796. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PAS- WAN- Will the Minister of TOURISM Large-scale Under-Invoicing AND CIVIL AVIATION be pleased to state: 794. SHRI BIJOY MODAK- Will the Minister oi COMMERCE be (a) whether Oiissa Government pleased to state: have approached the Centre for the development of Chilka Lake; and (a) whether Government have received any report from the Calcutta (b) if so, the decision of Central Port Authorities ic.'cntly ubout the Government thereon? large-scale under-invoicing, if m>, the broad outlines thereof; THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND CIVIL AVIATION (DR. KARAN (b) The reaction ol Government SINGII)- (a) No such proposal has thereto; and been received by the Department of (c) whether any action has been Tourism recently. taken to check it, if so, the broad outlines thereof? (b) Does not a use. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (iii) The Neyveli Lignite Corpo­ (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): ration’s losses increased from ■ (a) and (b). Interest rates on Pro­ Rs. 11.06 crores in 1970-71 to vident Fund balances of Central Gov­ Rs. 13.31 crores in 1971-72 ernment employees were recently due to lower production of revised upwards as under: — lignite. On first Rs. 10,000 6 per cent On balances in ex­ Steps taken to improve the work­ cess of Rs. 10,000. 5.3 per cent ing results of public enterprises in­ clude:— These rates are effective from 1st April, 1972. (i) better maintenance organisa­ tion and practices to reduce equipment downtime; Losses Suffered by Public Sector Undertakings (ii) improvement in production ! planning and control, person­ 798. SHRI RAM BHAGAT PAS- nel management, materials WAN: management, industrial engi­ SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA: neering, etc.; Will the Minister of FINANCE be (iii) introduction of incentive pleased to state: schemes for improving moti­ vation; (a) whether the losses incurred by the public sector undertaking has (iv) training at all levels for bet- ■ gone Up during the last year; and ter managerial performance and increased productivity; (b) if so, the reasons therefor and the measures proposed to be taken (v) wherever demand has been to minimise the losses? inadequate, diversification ' and greater export efforts; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN and THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. R. GANESH): (a) The 93 running (v.i) import of raw materials and and promotional enterprises incurred components, wherever neces­ an overall loss of Rs. 18.96 crores in sary. 1971-72 as compared to Rs. 2.86 crores in 1970-71. Taking over of Foodgrains Trade by Government (b) The higher losses incurred dur­ ing 1971-72 as compared to the pre­ vious year were mainly contributed 799. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will by the following companies: the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: (i) The Hindustan Steel’s losses increased from Rs. 4.51 crores (a) whether Government’s atten­ in 1970-71 to Rs. 45.63 crores tion has been draw n to the report in 1971-72, largely due to appering in the Free Press Journal, roof collapse at Rourkela; Borribay, dated the 12th January, 1973 under the caption “World Bank block­ (ii) Air India which earned a ing grains trade take-over”; and profit of Rs. 3.87 crores in 1970-71 incurred a loss of Rs. (b) if so, the reaction of Govern­ 1.96 crores in 1971-72 due to ment thereto? the effects of hostilities with Pakistan in the winter of THE MINISTER OF FINANCE 1971 as also the recession in (SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN): international air traffic; and (a) Yes, Sir. 201 Written Answers PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answers 202

(b) The reports, have already been to various items of investment such denied by the Spokesman of Reserve as minor irrigation, tractors and other Bank of India and Ministry of Fin­ agricultural machinery, land levelling, ance. The Woild Bank or its officials land development etc. These terms have not asked us formally or infor­ vary according to the type of the pro­ mally any questions concerning our ject. policy. They only wanted to know if the change in policy would lead The technical conditions mainly to changes m the structure of Bihar peri am to issue of loans for minor Agricultural Maikcts Projects, for irrigation after venfiying the suit­ which an IDA Credit was obtained ability of the area for ground water m March 1972, or m the structure of development and. m case of lift irri­ Mysore Agricultural Markets Projects gation programme, after obtaining for which the proposal foi an IDA clearance fiom the concerned Depart­ Credit is at an advance stage of con­ ment of the State Government. sideration The World Bank was in­ formed that no changcs in the Pro­ fc> The Government have not re­ ject components were necessary. ceived any complaint regarding the impracticability of conditions from the Managing Dnector of the Agri­ Financial Assistance to Agriculture cultural Refinance Corporation. Refinance Corporation from Interna­ tional Agencies

800 SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will 12 03 hrs. the Minister of FINANCE be pleased to state: CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER (a) the total amount of assistance OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE received by the Agricultural Refinance iMi’ vn on Im>j\N Rvpee ok US. Gov- Corporation from the World Bank HJVMFNI’S DECISION TO DEVALUE DOLLAR and International Development Asso­ ciation during the last three years; MR. SPEAKER: Calling attention Shu Indrajit Gupta. e namo of import entitlement, al- >o1*me'nt ol a huge amount of this free On +f>P of this, in this situation, this foreign exchange is being made to dollai devaluation which has taken these bunnpsvmcn for imports We place is a very serious matter and al­ do n«t know wc do know but wo did though the Government has decided not hear from the Government to that we should maintain our exchange what extent these fiee foreign ex­ late with the pound sterling as he change imports have been misused by has vnentioned in this statement, at some of these big monopoly houses the rate of 18 9677 rupees per one as a result of which actually our pound sterling. . foreign exchange reserves ate being depleted. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia­ Coming to devaluation, the hon mond Harbour): After devaluing it Minuter say?—just now he has said last year by 4J per cent. ui the statement—that on the whole our trade is not lively to suffer much, SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: But, there may be some marginal effect because the pound itself has been he it* and theie, but it will not have a allowed to float and the pound itself detrimental effect on our trade—he has appreciated in terms of the dol- says But even 'his own Economic lai, whether it is 3 per cent or 4 per Survey belies this. The Survey ap­ ' ont or whatever it is to that extent prehends some disruption of India s a de jaclo devaluation of the rupee exports as a result of the loss of has already taken place. Commonwealth preferences iU the UK market and also expresses the Now, therefore, the question I fear that “in the ab-ence of suitable would like to ask is: that in view of action the enlargement of the EEC this loss of the Commonwealth pre­ and the establishment of a free trade ference markets in the UK and in area in manufactures covering nearly view of the fact that oup trade with the w^ole of Western Europe may ('lie sterling area no longer occupies 209 Impact on PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Rupee of Dollar 210 devaluation (C.A.) that very important or major share for all the time on this com­ which it used to at one time and is mittee of twenty to safeguard our in fact dwindling and in view of the interests. In view of the explanation fact that the European Economic given in the Ek;onomic Survey itself Community’s new re-organisation regarding t'he main reasons why the will also have an unfavourable im­ position is turned against us and why pact on our trade, unless some very the foreign exchange reserves are special steps and measures can be being frittered away, will the Minis­ taken for which also we are not in ter consider same solution on those a position to do anything unless many issues themselves which are high­ other countries also co-operate and lighted in the Economic Survey it­ agree with us, whic'h is a doubtful self? Whenever we raised the ques­ thing, I would like to know what is tion 'here in the past for moratorium the thinking of the Government of on debts, he always said, I kjiow, India, why the rupee should continue that is your pet thing, you always to be kept as a sort of an appendage say that, we cannot do it, it is not of the pound? The pound is not a playing cricket, it is very bad for particularly strong or stable interna­ India’s prestige and so on and so tional currency now any more be­ forth. In view of the serious situa­ cause the poimd’s own equation with tion and his continued harping on the ofner internaiionai currencies, with question of national interest I would the dollar^ Mark and the yen is fluc­ like him to tell us, when these foreign tuating all the time, and, therefore, I exchange reserves are being depleted see no reason why this line must be drastically due to heavy drain on ac­ followed for all time that the rupee’s count of debt service dharges, why parity with the pound must be main­ the Government of India should not tained, when the pound itself is fluc­ consider moratorium on debts for a tuating all the time against other certain time to come. currencies. Then on the question of diversify­ SHRl YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN; ing exports, I would like to ask him What is the solution? this question. He has said in page 2 of the statement as follows; SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA; My solution is that for the purpose of in­ “Because of the appreciation of ternational dealings we should utilise the Deutsche Mark and the Yen rupee’s gold parity, not the parity vis-a-vis the Indian rupee our with the pound, which is in fact in­ exporters s'hould gain an edge ternationally accepted as the ex­ over the products of these coun­ change rate. tries in the third markets,” SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: As far as our traditional exports are It means devaluation. concerned like ,iute manufacturers, tea and skins and hides and so on, SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA; That is the Germans or the Japanese are not a difterent matter. It ma.y be devalu­ particularly our competitors in the ed or revalued. I do not see why we third market for these items. I would should continue to make the rupee as like to ask whether it is not a fact an appendage of fhe pou'nd sterling. that if we can have an edge over He has mentioned the question of tfne products of these countries in Special Drawing Rights and that we third markets, whether the margin are trying through this committee of of advantage in respect of price will twenty to see that the needs of the be enough to counterbalance their developing countries including India superior quality and so on. As far as are met more satisfactorily. Well, these traditional items are concerned, all power to his elbow, but I would the optimism which he is trying to like to say that we cannot depend show will not apply certainly. So, I 2i i Impact on FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Rupee of Dollar 212 devaluation (CA .) (Shri Indrajit Gupta] nomic situation in 1972-73 in our eco­ want to know: what really is their nomic survey, and, there we have cer­ thinking about that? The imorts from tainly admitted and We have certainly Germany and Japan are increasing indicated also that there was pressure into our country. They are becoming on the foreign exchange balance posi­ more costly. What are the ranplS of tion in 1072-73 and we have also indi­ products in regard to which we hope cated that this pressure is going to con­ to compete in foreign markets at mure tinue even in the next year. favourable terms because of devalua­ tion’ Th,o situation is quite bad and SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Despite it should not be painted in such rosv a favourable trade balance. terms He xR free to say, we are watching the situation c-arefully, wo SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: are taking further steps and so on At the same tims, the hon. Member The general picture painted is one of himself quoted from the Economic general 'optimism. This does not ex­ Survey itself th*? reasons for ihosf* actly correspond with the analysis and things. He wanted some explanation the forecast given in his own Economic about one item or one article, and Survey and therefore it rs that he that was primarily in regard to delays should t,«ll us that if necessary tlir* m the arrivals of the receipts That rup^e will not continue to be kept as wa* one point to which he made a an appendage of the pound or of any reference I would like to tell him other foreign currency, but in terms that th|« delay was primarily in the o{ self-reliance, some new way should debt relief scheme, which amounted to be found out by winch we can diver nearly 148 million dollars. Only a sify exports on the one hand and by small portion of thig was received dur­ declaring moratorium on deb's on th» ing April—November other hand and by dealing with r made a was delaying because of its own panicky statement. It is not my in­ tactics . . . tention to create any panic or compla­ cency, whether it is about our econo­ SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Trying mic system or with regard to out- own to pressurise us. foreign exchange position. It is actu­ ally far from that. I do not want lo SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: create panic and say that uncertainties But we did not allow us to be pres­ of world monetary system has come surised by anybody. What others do down on us and completely dislocated is a different matter. But really our situation. This is my only point speaking, it i§ our determination not This is the purpose for which the to get pressurised by anybody, which statement is made. is the only thing that I can guarantee But the situation after November had The hon. Member has said two changed, and most of the debt relief things, and these are two different has materialised. That has certainly things. Certainly, we have given the helped us to improve our foreign e x ­ picture as it emerges out of the eco­ change situation. 213 impact on PHALGUNA 4, 11M)4 (SAKA) Rupee of Dollar 214 devaluation (C.A. > The question ol devaluation is a 1971 before America took steps completely different thing. The pre­ some hup m August, 1971, when w^ sent devaluation has arisen out of saw tli »t th' dollar was getting under eer am economic situation in the world more and more pressure, we tnought as such. Really speaking, in order that H was much better that w*. by the hon. SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN Mjmbei onl\ shows that he has not I am talking about the objretnes gone into tht depth of it, because he is But unfortunately the point is thai auite intelligent enough to see the along with the exapnding trade, the reasoning of it He asked why we did necessary liquidity for the expanding not link ourselves with gold. The trade is not equally expanding. The mam difficulty 01 the whole trouble whole problem has arisen because of has st *rted because gold itself i-? m this The deficit trade balance of ti oubie America is, really speaking mainly jus- ponsible for it. Then foi e, w e have to see what is 111 our interest In this tioubled, con­ In another way, it I may use the flicting, intriguing and cruel woild. phraseology of my hon. friend, the eco­ we have to save oui selves ana our nomic interests of the three bi-mdus- interests and act accordingly M.v tnalised countries’ group, namely idea is not to give a rosy piciuie Western Europe, the USA and Japan because vve ourselves ere m a basic are coming into conflict, and this is diflicult> heie Wc must not add :o bringing about this sort of war of our difficulty by taking -,01110 Liu\c exchange rates. So, it is not ot oui positions creation. If oui country has to func­ tion m the international market or the SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA What trade market, we have to accept cer­ about the mmatonum pninP tain intervention or reserve currencies, which are those intervention currencies SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN which are accepted not only by us but It is vet.\ »* - to talk about the mora­ even by the so-called big countries in Western Europe? There are only two torium pou.1 currencies which allow themselves to be used as intervention currencies; one SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA Tlic Sux- is the dollar and the other is the \ey lefers to it a* one of the most sterling. These are the facts. When critical things, we saw that the dollar was under >uch a, pressure, and we were aware of that SIIRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: for a long time, when we saw and »ve That is true. As he very rightly said. got the indications sometimes in Api il, 1 he answer is in the diversification of 215 Impact on FE BRU ARY 23, 1973 Rupee of Dollar 2I6 devaluation (C.A.) LShri Yeshwantrao Chavan] our exports, it is in import substitu­ ests, when in the last four or five years tion, it is in self-reliance. If at all we the pound sterling has been under want to have to have more imports constant pressure either on its own because we have to have more impotta or by the adverse .gfiect it had as a if we want to keep our industry result of the devaluation of the dollar, going—natural.y we require raw mate­ why should he not switch on to a rials, swme spares and other things for relationship v/ith other currencies, for which we are spending, if at all we instance, the Deutschemark, the Swiss want to cut down on other imports, we Franc or the Japanese Yen? Why w ill have to resort to import substi­ should he not ponder over that matter tution . . . so that We may gain since we do not have any sort of inhibitions in regal’d SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: This is to linking with any other monetary because of your suicidal policy. system?

SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: The hon. member does not realise one Unfortunately, we had to spend a thing. It is not a question of our large part of our foreign exchange on choice in this matter. The Deutsche­ import of foodgrains which we never mark, Yen or even the French Franc— expected. This is also a fact of life they do not allow themselv&s to be that we have to contend with. used as intervention currencies. That is one thing. It is not something you SHRI JYO TIRM O Y BOSU; Because can sit down and make a choice. Thoss you neglected that vital centre. countries have got their own economic policies, national policies. (Interrup­ SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: tions). He said we must diversify our exports It is a very important thing. We have The point is that it is not one cur­ to do it. These are the things which, rency which is in trouble. You will really speaking, w ill see us out of our find that the entire currency and mone­ present difficulty. But if you merely tary system is in trouble. There is talk of the slogan of moratorium, it some sort of uncertainty and instability w ill unnecessarily create unfa,vourable Therefore, the solution is not Just to conditions of us. This is my own jump from one currency to the other. assessment. If at all we have to make an effort, we w ill have to see that we create a SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Capita­ monetary system whereby there is list path of development. some sort of stability. We have cer­ tainly been approaching this problem SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH independently trying to see that we (Nandyal); I am glad the hon. Minis­ evolve a sort of consenus among deve­ ter has said that we do not want to loping countries which sometimes are be an appendage of any other mone­ apt to differ. This is our ma.ior difli- tary system. He knew that the dollar culty. As always happens, th,e ex­ was under constant pressure and was ploited are more divided sometimes. floating. That was why we switched So our major effort in this matter on to the pound sterling. Even the w ill be to see that evolve a certain pound sterling has been under con­ consensus among these countries and stant pressure for the last four or five try to create a monetary system which years. When he says that we do not w ill be somewha,t based on the fixed want to be an appendage of any other parties, because that is going to be monetary system. I would ask him, if in the interest of the developing count­ that is So and if there are no inhibi­ ries. tions or motions about having any sort of link with the pound sterling or If there is no certainty on that mat­ dollar which is ad\'erse to our -Inter- ter, we have no opportunity of taking 217 Impact on PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Rupee of Dollar 218 devaluation (C.A.) oui' proper share in the expanding, At the very outset, I would like to world trade. If we do not do that, point out that we must try to under- there is no possibility for Us of 'nak- Gtand why this development has taken ing resources available for develop­ place and why there has been a deva- ment of the daveloping countries. luatio -i of the do lar by 10 per cent. So it is not just a simple question It was the imperative need for the of jumping from this to the other, United States of America, for they from dollar to gold or gold to rupea. went building a certain economy It is not so simple as that. We have taking up a certain political orienta- to see the world as it is, functioning ation. They had involved themselves as it is and then try to carve out a in Viet Nam by a huge defence bud­ situation and work out a policy which get, and their entire balance of pay­ will be in our interest. ment position was completely distur­ bed. But it was described as a con­ MR. SPEAKER; Shri Bhagwat Jha tinuing process and as was said,, ac­ Azad—absent. Prof. Dandavate. tually a de facto devaluation had al­ ready taken place. There was no PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE way out, and therefore they had to (Rajapur); Mr. Speaker, Sir, the P re­ devalue Ihe dollar by 10 per cent. sent currency crisis is not an isolated event. I feel that it is a continuing process. That is thg reason why I As soon as that was done, a new did not table an adjournment motion problem came before us. So, if it is but simply a calling attention notice. true that wa are now directly involv­ ed, because our rupee is linked up— Sir, after the Smithsonian agree­ whether you may like it or not—with ment of December, 1971, three distur­ the pound-sterling, and though a 10 bing events have taken place, and they per cent devaluation of the dollar has are not again just a malady but they been affected a three and a half per are really the symptoms of a disease. cent appreciation in terms of the new At the first stage there was the float­ dollar has .already been introduced. ing of the pound; at the second stage, In your statement, you have correctly there came the 10 per cent devalua­ stated that this is the only change tion of the dollar and, a.s a conse­ that has been introduced and because quence of it, certain steps have taken of this appreciation up to an extent place for the floating of the Yen, the of three and a half per cent, a corres­ Japanese currency. These have cer­ ponding apreciation has taken place tain impacts on the economy of our in our currency also. You have said country, and on our trade relation that this is very marginal, but we with other countries also indirectly. would like to know from you, even w'ith this marginal change of three I am not in agreement with our and a half per cent, what is the im­ friend Shri Indrajit Gupta when he pact on our tarde and what are the painted the statement of the Finance impacts on our export and on our im­ Minister as a rosy picture. I think he hims.elf has not painted a rosy pic­ port. We would like to analyse thnt problem. ture, but I would say he has put in an overcautious picture, and that is why the Reserve Bank has already issued Another problem that I would like instructions that the forward dealing to pose and seek clarification frorr.> in sterling and dollars should be sus­ the Finance Minister is this. Is it pended. The attitude is that we want not the time, has not the time come to watch the situation; only watch in a v/hen we have to given up our rigid manner by which you would lose the attitude to link up our rupee with the initiative from your hands and you sterling? There is another aspect here. are not able to control the situation. There is a school of thought that has That is our contention, been propounding the point of view 219 impac.i on FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Rupee of Dollar 2 2 0 devaluation (C A.) LProf, Madhu Dandavatej blem that we should consider. that one third ol our trade is involved with the socialist countries or, to put To improve our balance of payments it correctly, the communist countries. position and to secure more foreign If the United KinRdom, United States exchange, especially after the pressm of America and Soviet Russia, v/hy currency crisis does our Government should we take a rigid posture of propose to give more export conces­ linKing our currency only with them? sions and levy more import surchar­ ges. When alternatives are being Here, 1 would like to pose a new suggested. I should like to point out . problem. Probably the suggestion to the Finance Minister that even has not come over here, but I would small countries like Malaysia and like to place a new, constructive pro­ Singapore can ignore dollar de­ posal. Now, the USA and the United valuation and keep the gold parity of Kingdom account for a considerable their currencies unchanged. Should share of India’s export to which he India with more diversified trade re­ has made a refernce. They do not lations take a more firm attitude in offer an expanding market for Indian facing the challenges from Washing­ goods particularly the new traditio­ ton and London'? nal products. Should we not work In the end, you have already stated out a new trade relationship and a at the end of your statement that you new agreement with countries like will be sitting in the Twenty Membei those in the South East, the Middle Committee on monetary reforms and East and the African countries, so that contributing your own share in the w'e can insulate our economy from discussions. Is it possib'e for you to the turmoil of currency that iG tak­ spall out some outlines of the policy ing place? We are now getting com­ that you would like to put forward pletely mixed up with the mess that there to secure arrangements which ■ is taking place. We are only thinking would reflect our needs of stability of in terms of what happens in the Uni­ trade and exchange rates and ted States of America and what hap­ orderly growth of the world trade. If pens in the United Kingdom. In or­ you arc able to indicate what steps der that we should be able to insulate you are likely to take, probably the ourselves from the currency turmoil, country will feel that you are not will it not be possible for us—I would merely taking an attitude of ‘watch like to know from the Finance Minis­ and wait’ but you are taking certain ter—to enter into a new type of trade concrete measures to see that the relationship and agreement with the situation improves. African countries and with the South SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: East Asian countries? The first part is merely on exposition There is another factor to which I as he understood the problem. He put would refer, namely, the European me an important question at the end Community. We are pinning our of his speech, which I shall try to faith in the United Kingdom, and answer. He asked: why is it that we linking our currency with Pound- do not develop our trade relations Sterling. Britain Ig part and pracel of w'ith the South East Asian countries or the European community and they the Middle Eastern countries? I have are now more susceptible to pres­ no objection to that; that is in fact sures from the European community what we shall have to do and we are and they will be more con­ making efforts in that direction. But cerned with their own interests. he forgets that those parts also are So they will not give much part of the entire uncertainty; attention to the interest of our econo­ they are even more closely linked my. Is it not necessary now that the with the trouble than we are; hon. linking of the rupee to Sterling Members are intelligent enough to should be given up; that is the pro­ see the whole thing and say how the Impact on PHALGUNA 4, 1884 (SAKA) Rupee of Dollar 222 devaluation (C .A ./ present trouble has affected every­ cent quota in the voting rights there. body; I should say that it has affect­ Possibly, we will have to see that we ed marginally even the East European get a better voice there. We will have countries and they have to take note to see that the Special Drawing of it; they have to keep their world Rights will also have something to trade relations. do with the development of finance of those countries. He asked: what line we were going to take in C-20. It will take So, these are the four major planka much time if I explain all the details on which we are going to make an and so I shall indicate the major effort. But those efforts will depend lines. We aim at thds. We see that the so-called intervention currencies are upon the unity and the consensu* among the developing countries. As getting into trouble. He wanted to know the reason for the dollar getting it is, the developing countries are in the minority in the Committee of into trouble. Dollar has come into trouble because of the deficit trade Twenty. It depends upon the efforts, the patience and the wisdom with balance with Japan on the one side; they think that discriminatory prac­ which we go ahead with this matter. tices are resorted by the West Euro­ pean countries. This is the case of the PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: As United States. The case of the other far as Japan is concerned, for inst­ two parties is that there is lack of ance, after the floating of Yen, since action to control their own inflationary we want for our fertiliser projects conditions in America. Therefore certain equipment from Japan—you they are not responding. This is the have given an indication that there basic cause of the trouble. Our objec­ will be no impact at all---will there tive must be to find out some third not be an impact on it? neutralised unit which could be used as intervention currency; that is SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: likely to be the special drawing I a’m talking about the present foreign rights, SDR as they are called. Our exchange reserves, the present trend effort will be to see that there is of debts, etc. Certainly, there will be increase in the international liquidity a marginal effect. Ifl we want to and that international liquidity is increase more trade with Japan, controlled internationally. This will be possibly which we will have to do, our fire effort. At the present moment certainly, there will be some effect. there is no increase In international liquidity and there is no international control because there is a sort of vm rw m (wfsrrr*-) : competitive devaluation. We want a marar ngtor f a % situation where there will be increas** ■w ijh . it aft * n f fc *n? ed international liquidity to be controlled internationally of which t 1 tit ^ft *tt#- we should be also a part. We want the S.D.Rs. to play more and more wft w ft sw «nr ot $ t effective role. gnnr fikHjysi At the came time, wte would like ***? $ iw t m to «ee that the developing countries arrr sfr*nw 3ftr ffcrr frrqrer will have an increasing and effective voice ih the Structure of the monetary wmifirw | 1 irtfV q rerffrp ozfftftl&tton, monetary forums, like, farftr i9663r$R% th« International Monetary Fund, At vTwappR tor «m the present moment, a large number of feota&ttfai have got about tft bet- Mifocr f fa t o w 3401 L.S.— 8 223 Impact on FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Rupee of Dollar 224 devaluation (C^L.) 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Sir, please allow me to make a mention about burning SHRI YESHWANTRAO CHAVAN: of the Harijan bastis at Raniganj. Most of the points that the hon. Member has raised on this, I have MR. SPEAKER: I will come to that tried to deal with them in my reply. later on. The only new point that he has raised, SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU; My if I have understood him correctly, complete obedience to the Chair. is how we are going to achieve the indication that we have given about MR. SPEAKER; What a change •expansion of export trade. That overnight! naturally will have to be in the non- conventional items. That also wc will have to see to which countries we go.< 12.55 hrs. Naturally, competition is not merely MATTER UNDER RULE 377 in terms of rates, but it is also in terms of quality—the point to which A l l e g e d W r o n g S t a t e m e n t s b y hon. Member, Shri Indrajit Gupta M i n is t e r s made a reference. Ultimately it will MR. SPEAKER: Shri Shyamnandan depend not merely on the rate but also Mishra. on the quality of the product and the commodities that we supply. Certainly SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA we have got an edge over the cur­ (Begusarai): It is with a great sense rency in some of the third countries. of responsibility a n d in no lightheart­ That only shows the abjective situa­ ed spirit that I have to raise a ques­ tion. In what way we will be able tion of privilege under Rule 222 of to dg. that, it is certainly a question the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of going into the details of it. I do of Business, which has got very rot think that strategy can be explain­ serious implications and dimensions, ed openly in detail, if it is going to against the hon. Minister of industrial be competitive like th’g. But we wish Development, Shri C. Subramaniam tthat we will certainly do that. and the hon. Minister of State in the Ministry of Defence, Shri Vidya His main point was that the cur­ Charan Shukla, for having deliberately rencies, Deutsch Mark and Yen, are made wrong and (misleading state­ strong1 today. Really speaking, Dollar ments before this House on the 22nd has made thfs attack to make them December 1872, while intervening in 227 Matter Under Rule 377 FEBfttJAfeY 23, 1973 Matter Under Rul* 377 jfcfcfc

[Shri Shyamnandan Mishra] Please mark fete asserting with confi­ the debate on the policy of manufac­ dence. ture of a small car which has come to Now, Mr. Speaker, the conclusive be...... evidence in this matter i would like, MR. SPEAKER: You give only a to adduce in support of tftiy argument briei summary. is this letter from the Defence Head­ quarters... (Interruptions) This com­ SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MlSHRA: munication is dated the 11th March, That is what I am trying to do. 1971. The notification for the acquisi­ tion of the land was made on the 24th While intervening in that debate February, So, the Defence Head­ which has come to- be known popularly quarters was quite alert and we hdve* as the ‘Maruti debate’, pointed alle­ a!l praise for them. In this notifica­ gations were ’made that there have tion it is stated: been infringements of certain rules and regulations framed by the Minis­ “Reference is made to the Air try of Defence in connection with the Headquarters letter No— , addres­ construction of buildings and other sed among others to the Headquar­ structures in the vicinity of the air­ ter. Maintenance Comiriand. It Has force installations. come to the notice of this Station that the Haryana State has acquired In support of my arguments and certain land around this depot vide contentions, I would like to refer this their notification No...... , dated hon. House to the proceedings of the 24th February, 1971. On'an exami­ House on the 22nd December 1972: nation of the area involved, it has been revealed that a major portion “Shri Shyamnandan Mishra: What of the land so acquired falls within about the defence installations? the restrictions imposed by the Gov­ How are they going to take them ernment of India, Ministry of away from there now? Defence, letter No...... Stores dated 13th August, 1965, that: Shri Vidya Charan Shukla: Noth­ ing has to be taken away. There (a) It is within 3500 yards of is no objection from them. the perimeter of the run-way at Gurgaon; Please underline the words 'There is no objection from them’. fb) It is within 3500 yards of the perimeter of the explosives 4d thfit the land m&y He under ttcttui- Shri Vidya Charan Shukla: There sition fbr construction ol a- is no basis for that. fMctoiy. Shri C. Subramaniam: I am say­ It is clear that if this land shotdd ing it on his behalf. My saying it be acquired for some use by is much move responsible than even agencies other than those o f fjis saying it.---- ” the Government^ it will caa~ :239 Matter Under PF 4.LGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Matter Vnder 230 Rule 377 Rule 377 stitute a risk to the security Therefore, it is quite clear that of the explosives depot as these two Ministers to whom we put well as the airfield...” our questions with a certain amount of tenacity, and also answered our Please 'bear this in mind, ‘It will questions with an equal tenacity. This •constitute a risk... ” they have prescribed in making deli­ berately wrong statements and, (d) This acquisition will also be therefore, it is a fit case for reference in contravention of the res­ to the Privileges Committee for exa­ trictions imposed on utilisa­ mination. tion of land by agencies other than the airforce around the MR. SPEAKER- I will examine it explosives depot—the res­ and then I will also invite their com­ trictions which are indicated ments and let you know later on the in the Indian Works of De­ position. fence Act 1903. THE MINISTER OF STATE (DE­ 13 hrs. FENCE PRODUCTION) IN THE MIN­ ISTRY OF DEFENCE (SHRI VID- I have got a copy of that Act in my YA CHARAN SHUKLA): May I say possession here and I would also like something on it with your permis­ to refer to a declaration which is sion? very important for the House. The Defence Headquarters communication SOME HON MEMBERS- Wny says that this acquisition policy will also be in contravention of the 1903 now? Act and a due declaration has been made under Sec. 3 of the 1903 Act. X have got in my possession that ffcpesr * 3ft f® 1 f t r M a r ^rr important document which is very relevant. Lastly, the communication *nwr saro arrant t 1 says: MR. SPEAKER- I have to see the “Your Headquarters is reques­ other side’s version. ted to take up the matter with the Air Headquarters and the w kt firjrrct snf

SHRI JYOTIRMO,Y BOSU: My SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAEE: suibmission is that both the Ministers It is a prima facie case. Let it be are here. You can hear them. referred to the Privileges Committee­ straightway The rule says: MR. SPEAKER; We have been do­ ing it in the past. We have been “Provided further that the asking the other party. Speaker may, if he is satisfied about the urgency of the matter, SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Both of allow a question of privilege to them are present here. Let them be raised at any time during the give their comments. Then you can course of a sitting”. consider both the views. MR. SPEAKER: I have just now MR. SPEAKER: I have to examine said I have not allowed it. I have it before I decide on the notice. just heard him. I have to examine it. firjrift : *rrr SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE (Calcutta- BERprr spft §; i North-East): Are we to waste the time of the House like this? I take it that you allowed the matter to be* raised here. ferr | s*r«jwr

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: When a SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE: What Member writes to you bringing it to happens in your chamber is not my your attention, at that stage, before concern. What happens in the House you allow him to raise the matter in is my concern. We do think that you the House, you generally ascertain have permitted him to raise it here* • the views of the Government. Only after that, you generally permit him MR. SPEAKER: No, I did not per­ to do that, to raise it here. In this mit him. case, you allowed him to raise it SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE: Are we- here. to liquidate ourselves? How could MR. SPEAKER: So far as privilege you do so? The time of Parliament is concerned, I will have to examine has been wasted, paid tor by the peo­ it , v. ple. 233 Matter Under PHALGUNA 4, 1804 (SAKA) Matter Under 234 Rule 377 Rule $77 SHRI SAMAR GUHA (Contai): I If hon. Members are going to take rise on a point of order. You had these matters like this, it would be assured Mishraji that he may make a very natural for me that I should also statement according to Rule 377. behave like that. The hon. Member came to me and said that he had a MR. SPEAKER: I made it clear. certain matter to bring to my notice, and I told him that if he wanted to SHRI SAMAR GUHA: I want to raise it as a matter of privilege, then know from you whether he already I would have to examine it, but if intimated you, that he wanted to he wanted to raise it otherwise, he rai.se the issue of privilege. This would Ibe welcome to do it, but before comes under Rule 222. I could treat it as a privilege matter, I shall have to examine it. It was MR. SPEAKER: I told him this. on this basis that I had allowed him. Even in that case I have to examine it before I decide. I have to examine it. If you want to raise any other SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN (Kan- point, you are welcome. gra) : Rule 225, has two parts. One is that you have to give your con­ SHRI SAMAR GUHA: You have sent to the Member to raise it, and allowed him to raise the issue. You the other is to decide whether it is said about that particular rule in our in order. So, they are wrong in say­ Rules of Procedure. But he has al­ ing that rule 222 gives them the rig ready intimated to you that this issue to raise it straightway. involves the issue of privilege against a Member. If it is so, you have al­ SHRI K. S. CHAVDA (Patan): On ready allowed it .... a point of order-----

MR. SPEAKER: I have not held it MR. SPEAKER: I have made it in order yet. He just met me, but very clear already. There can be no before I hold it in order, I have to question of point of order now. examine it. SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: SHRI SAiyiAR GUHA: Even then, I would be satisfied if you would be it is the property of the House. nleased to consider this matter. But my submission is under rule 222, MR. SPEAKER: His merely men­ raising a question of privilege. Kind­ tioning it here does not mean that it ly give me another half a second. has been held in order---- The additional information which I wanted to bring to your notice is the SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Members letter that I wrote to the hon. Minis­ should be allowed to express their ter of State on 22nd November. It has remained unanswered till to­ opinion. day---- MR. SPEAKER: I am sorry there MR. SPEAKER: He can give it to can be no debate on it now. I have to examine it. me. SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA: AN HON. MEMBER: Without exa­ Now. the House will realise the reason mining it, how could you allow the behind it. Why has he not answered Member to raise it? my letter dated 22nd November?

MR. SPEAKER: I had made it very SHRI FRANK ANTHONY (Nomi­ clear to him that r shall have to exa­ nated—Anglo-Indian: May I rise to mine it, and I shall have to ask the a point of order? I am not interest­ hon. Minister. ed in the personal aspect of it. I am 235 Matter Under FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Matter Under 236 Rule 377 Rule svr [Shri Frank Anthony] SHRI R S. PANDEY Nowhere is only interested m the plain meaning it mentioned in the rules that mem­ of the rule bers could see you in your Chamber and then make a statement m the MR SPEAKER I had already told House the hon Member that before I hold it in order, I -would have to consider MR SPEAKER, That is a separate it and allow it only later 1 had one made that very clear

SHRI FRANK ANTHONY You 1315 hrs cannot do that With great respect, I would submit that the matter is outside your consideration now You RE MEDICAL TREATMENT OF have just read rule 222 I have iust SHRI NAGABHUSHAN PATNAIK read rule 225 The whole scheme DETAINED IN AN ANDHRA JAIL and intention is clear beyond a per- adventure When he submits his SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI notice, you have to apply your mind (Bhubaneshwar) I would like to Then, if you read rule 2ZI, if you bring to your kind notice and the consider it out of order, and you notice of the hon Minister that one refuse your consent at that stage, he of the finest and most devoted social cannot even begin to raise itf it is workers of our country, Shu Naga- only when you give your consent that bhushan Patnaik who is now m jail the hon Member raises it m Andhra Pradesh, is fast deteriora­ ting Perhaps it has become very SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN There serious and he is m a dying condition are two parts in it One is that you have to give your consent and the More than 100 MPs belonging to second is that you have to consider all sections of this House had made whether it should be permitted to be a petition to the hon President and raised m the House or not to the Prime Minister and had plead­ ed for mercy and for commuting his SHRI FRANK ANTHONY The rule death sentence is very clear The immediate question (before us MR SPEAKER- The rule J* very is this There is a strike in Andhra clear If hon Members are going to and the doctors are not attending to be so strict about interpretation, then their duties He is not getting pro­ 1 shall have to be very cautious in per medical treatment in jail His future condition is very serious

SHRI R S PANDEY (Rajnand- Therefore, I would beg of the hon gaon) • Please do not allow any Mem­ Minister to see that he is shifted to ber to come and meet you in your some other medical Institute so that Chamber All this trouble is due to he gets immediate medical care and that attention and best of treatment

MR SPEAKER May I request hon MR SPEAKER. Shri D K Panda Members that when they send any notices under rule 377, they should SHRI G VISWANATHAN (Wandi- send only one each? Some o f them wash). Let him ask Govemnusat to have sent so many notices. I shall release all the doctors. take up only one or two notices under rule 977. It is very difficult to tftke MR SPEAKER: Dq not do it at up aft of them. every stage. 337 Re. Medical PHALGUNA 4 , 1894 (SAKA) Treatment of Sh. 338 Nagabhushan Patnaik SHRI G. VISWANATHAN: This is My friends, Shri Panigrahi and connected. Shri Panda, have spoken about the treatment of Com. Nagabhushan Pat­ SHRI D. K. PANDA (Bhaiyanagar): naik. I have received a letter which Due to the ill-treatment, inhuman is addressed to a Supreme Court law­ treatment given inside the Rajahmun- yer by Shri D. Bhushan Mohan Pat­ dry jail to Shri Nagabhushan Patnaik, naik. It says he has not been given who is the finest democrat and social any treatment in jail. worker, his health is fast deteriorat­ ing and he is suffering from ulcera­ tion in the abdomen. Even though You are aware that he belongs to his father had sent so many letters, the Naxalite group. We may differ nothing has been done. Here 10—15 with his politics. He along with members have received telegrams 32,000 youngmen are in jail through­ about the alarming condition of his out the country without an>' legal health. Still there is no response defence. from the government side. There is a petition with the Presi­ Therefore, I demand that he should dent and the Prime Minister signed be immediately brought to the Medi­ by more than 80 Members belonging cal Institute here in Delhi. This is lo all parties including the ruling in view of the alarming condition of party. his health.

Not only that. 120 MPs on both I want first of all that he should sides have appealed to the Minister be immediately brought from and the President, barring the Swa- the Rajahm undry jail to Delhi tantra members, that the death sen­ for treatment. Then the death sen­ tence on him should be commuted tence on him should be commuted. and he should be immediately releas­ I would plead with you. I must con­ ed. Immediately he should be gratulate the progressive forces which brought to the Medical Institute in are at the core of this. I request Delhi for treatment. that all the 32,000 men should be released immediately. (Interruptions) W3WTU (^T T ) : MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Samar Guha. wrrtfr fa ff % 1 1 s w * SHRI SAMAR GUHA (Contai): I % fs nmm * srt ^ want to draw your attention to cer­ tain reports that have appeared in w iw r 1 the press in regard to certain unfor­ tunate incidents in Orissa and West Bengal. As a consequence— (Inter­ m ir «ri ruptions) . * r a r w T ^ » MR. SPEAKER: Just & minute. I MR. SPEAKER: Shri Khadilkar am sorry. Mr. Khadilkar wants to wanted to make a statement about make a statement. the matter raised by Shri Panigrahi ■and Shri Panda. Shri S. M. Banerjee THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND had also raised i t FAMILY PLANNING (SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR): Sir, about Comrade SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur): Nagabhushan Patnaik’s health, the I had also sen* a notice in regard to Health Secretary got into touch with * 239 Rej Medical treatment of FEBRUARY 23, 1978 Papers Laid Shri Nagabhushan Patnaik Mr H C Sarin, Adviser to the Gov­ SHRI D K PANDA: Are we not ernor of Andhra Pradesh, and he has concerned with Nagabhushan’s life’ sent us certain information just an I earnestly request you to see that hour back I may give it to the human considerations would be shown House It says that Comrade Naga- to him by the hon Minister to bring bhushan Patnaik, as is stated, is a that patient here, because the condi­ condemned-to-death prisoner m jail tions are so alarming Neither in m Visakhapatnam A few days back Cuttack nor in Vizag nor even m he complained of serious pain and Rajahmundry is it possible, nowhere said that he was suffering from acute m these parts is it possible appendicitis and wanted to be shifted SEVERAL HON MEMBERS to Cuttack which is his native place Hoie— As the Civil Suigeons at Visakhapat­ nam had rejoined duty—mention was MR SPEAKER You cannot force made regarding the stuke but that yourselves on me like this (Inter­ is not correct—he was attending on ruptions) him He was examined by the Civil SHRI SAMAR GUHA You have Surgeon and other officers who have foi gotten the ordei You called me, reported that there is no need for an have you changed the older’ operation and that his condition is satisfactory and there is no danger SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Dia­ They have therefoie, not recommen­ mond Harbour) On the 20th of this ded his transfer The Government month three days ago in Ramganj have taken all possible care to look paper mill basti, a Hanjan colony after his health and, if need be he was burnt by the hooligans of a parti­ might be transferred to Hydeiabad cular political party and one murder was committed This attack was done SHRI D K PANDA What is the m a pre-planned manner and the date’ thatched houses were set on fire by the miscreants without any provoca­ tion and with the collaboration of the SHRI R K KHADILKAR Just police Repiession on the Harnan now I got the message (Intei rup- in the countiy is on the increase and Uons) the Government must institute a tho­ rough enquiry immediately and »nake SHRI D K PANDA No doctor is a statement on the floor of the House functioning m Rajahmundry now Incidentally, the name of the political they are all on stnke party is the Ruling Congress Party MR SPEAKER Kindly sit down 13 26 hrs. SHRI S M BANERJEE What harm is there if he is sent to the PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE Medical Institute here’ N otifications u n d e r G e n e r a l I n s u r ­ SHRI D K PANDA Send him to a n c e B u s i n e s s ( N a t i o n a l i Ji a t i o n ) the All India Institute of Medical A c t 1972, G o l d ( C o n t k o l ) A c t , 1968, Sciences here E m e r g e n c y R i s k s ( G o o d s / u n d e r i a k - i n g s ) I n s u r a n c e A c t s , 1971, C e n t r a i MR SPEAKER Order, please It E x c i s e s a n d S a l t A c t , 1944 e t c , e t c is now over THE MINISTER OF STATE IN SHRI D K PANDA There must THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI be human feelings m this matter. K R GANESH) I beg to lay on the (Interruptions) Table— MR SPEAKER: I am very sorry (1) A copy each of the follow­ I am not allowing it. ing Notifications (Hindi and English* 3*1 Papers Laid PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Paper* Laid 242

versions) under sub-section (3) of of section 5 of the Emergency Risks section 39 of the General Insurance (Goods) Insurance Act, 1971. Business (Nationalisation) Act, [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 1972: — 4234/73]. (i) S.O. 770(E) published in (4) A copy of the Emergency Risks Gazette of India dated the 29th (Undertakings) Insurance (Fourth December, 1972. Amendment) Scheme, 1972 (Hindi and English versions) published m (ii) S.O. 771(E) published in Notification No. S.O. 750(E) in Gazette of India dated the 29th Gazette of India dated the 16th December, 1972. December, 1972, under sub-section (iii) The General Insurance (7) of section 3 of the Emergency Business (Functions of Certain Risks (Undertakings) Insurance Acquisition Companies) Rules, Act, 1971. 1973 published in Notification [Placed in Library. See No. LT- No. G.S.R. 2(E) in Gazette of 4234/73]. India dated the 1st January, 1973. (5) A copy of the following Noti­ [Placed in Library. See No. LT- fications (Hindi and English ver­ 4232/73]. sions) under section 38 of the Cen­ tral Excises and Salt Act, 1944: — (2) A copy of the following Noti­ fications (Hindi and English ver­ (i) G.S.R. 1497 published in sions) under sub-section (3) of Gazette of India dated the 2nd section 114 of the Gold (Control) December, 1972. Act, 1968: — (ii) The Central Excises (Six­ (i) The Gold Control (Licens­ teenth Amendment) Rules. 1972, ing of Dealers) Amendment Rules, published in Notification No. 1972, published in Notification G.S.R. 1589 m Gazette of India No. S.O. 764(E) in Gazette of dated the 23rd December, 1972. India dated the 27th December, [Placed in Library. See No. LT- 1972. 4235/73], (ii) The Gold Control (Forms, Fees and Miscellaneous Matters) (6) A copy of the Customs and Amendment Rules, 1972, publish­ Central Excise Duties Drawback ed in Notification No. S.O. 765(E) (Third Amendment) Rules, 1972 in Gazette of India dated the (Hindi and English versions) pub­ 27th 'December, 1972. lished in Notification No, G.S.R. 1493 in Gazette of India dated the (iii) S.O. 75(E) published in 2nd December, 1972, under section Gazette of India dated the 5th 159 of the Customs Act, 1962 and February, 1973 containing corri­ section 38 of the Central Excises gendum to Notification No. S.O. and Salt Act, 1944. 764(E) dated the 27th December, 1972. [Placed mi Library. See No. LT- 4236/73]. I Placed in Library. See No. LT- 4233/73]. (7) A copy each of the following Notifications (Hindi and English (3) A copy of the Emergency versions) under section 159 of the Risks (Goods) Insurance (Fourth Customs Act. 1962:— Amendment) Scheme, 1972 (Hindi and English versions) published in (i) G.S.R. 1590 published in Notification No. S.O. 749(B) in Gaz­ Gazette of India dated the 23rd ette of India dated the 16th Dec- December, 1972 together with an < ember, 1972, under sub-section (6) explanatory memorandum. * 4^ Paper? Laid UPPBUA^V 4», % m Pa*K * Lfii*

(ii) G.S.R. 1(E) published in dated the Is* February, 1873 to­ Gazette of India dated the 1st gether with an explanatory memo­ January, 1973 together with an randum. explanatory memorandum. [Placed in Library. See No. LT- (iii) G.S.R. 50(E) published in 4239/73]. Gazette of India dated the 1st February, 1973 together with an I nternational A ir p o r t s A u t h o r i t y explanatory memorandum. R u l e s , 1972

(iv) G.S.R. 92 and 93 published THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in Gazette of India dated the 3rd MINISTRY OF TOURISM AND February, 1973 together with an CIVIL AVIATION (DR. SAROJINI explanatory memorandum. MAHISHI): I beg to lay on the Table [Placed in Library: See No. LT- a copy of the International Airports 4237/73]. Authority Rules, 1972 (Hindi and English versions) published in Noti­ (8) A copy of Notification No. fication No. S.O. 766(E) in Gazette S.O. 8(E) (Hindi and English ver­ of India, dated the 28th December, sions) published in Gazette of India 1972, under sub-section (3) of section dated the 2nd January, 1973, ap­ 36 of the International Airports Au­ proving the General Insurance Cor­ thority Act. 1971. poration of India formed under [Placed in Library. See No. LT- section 9 of the General Insurance 4240/73]. Business (Nationalisation) Act, 1972 as an Indian reinsurer, under sub-section (6) of section 101 A of N otifications u n d e r M a r i n e P r o d u c t s the Insurance Act, 1938. E x p o r t D e v e l o p m e n t A u t h o r i t y A c t , 1972, A n n u a l R e p o r t or C a r d a m o m [Placed in Library. See No. LT- B o a r d , 1971-72, a n d N otifications 4238/73]. u n d e r E x p o r t ( Q u a l i t y C o n t r o l a n d I n s p e c t i o n ) A c t , 1963. (9) A copy of the following Notifications (Hindi and English versions) issued under the Central THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE Excist Rules, 1944: — MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI A. C. GEORGE): I beg to lay on the (i) G.S.R. 490(E) pubUshed in Table— Gazette of India dated the 15th (1) A copy of the Marine Pro­ pecexniber, 1972 together with an ducts Export Development Autho­ explanatory memorandum. rity (Amendment) Rules, 1972 (ii) G.S.R. 5 published in Gaz­ (Hindi and English versions) pub­ ette of India dated the 6th Janu­ lished in Notification No. S.O. 14(E) ary, 1073 together with an expla­ in Gazette of India dated the 10th natory memorandum. January, 1973, under sub-section (3) of section 33 of the Marine Products (iii) G.S.R. 8 published in Gaz­ Export Development Authority Act, ette of India dated the 6th Janu­ 1072. ary, 1973 together with an expla­ [Placed in Library. See No. LT- natory memorandum. 4241/73]. (iv) GJ&JBL 51 published in Gaz­ ette of India dated the 20£b Janu­ (2) A copy of Notification No. ary, 1£73 together with an expla­ S.O. 9(E) (Hindi and English ver­ natory ipnemorandujn. sions) published in Gazette of India dated the 10th January, 1973 fixing (V) G.SJR. 40(22), 47(E) and ttrte of cess on certain marine pro­ 48(E) publithftd in Gaxett* of Inttto duct*. under sub-section <&) of 245 Papers Laid PHALGtJNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Message from R.S. 246

section 14 of the Marine Products Export Development Authority Act, (vii) The Export of Rubber Hot 1972. Water Bottles (Inspection) Am­ endment Rules, 1973, published in [Placed in Library. Set No- LT- Notification No. S.O. 269 in Gaz­ 4242/73]. ette of India dated the 3rd Feb­ ruary, 1973. (3) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and English versions) on (viii) The Export of Rubber the working of the Cardamom Board Belts (Inspection) Amendment for the year 1971-72, under sub-rule Rules, 1973, published in Notifica­ (2 >

ADVOCATES (AMENDMENT) BILL (3) General discussion on the Railway Budget for 1973-74. A s P a s s e d b y R a j y a Sabha As Members are already aware, the SECRETARY Sir, I lay on the General Budget for 1973-74 will be Table of the House the Advocates picsented toy the Finance Minister at (Amendment) Bill, 1973, as passed by 5 PM on Wednesday, the 28th Feb­ Rajya Sabha ruary, 1973.

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S i x t y - f i f t h R e p o r t % srt if ^ tr^r t o c ( w r ^ 1 SHRI SEZHIYAN (Kumbakonam) I beg to present the Sixty-fifth Re­ MR SPEAKER You must send it port of the Public Accounts Com­ in writing mittee regarding action taken by Government on the recommendations SHRI S M BANERJEE (Kanpur) contained in their Thirty-seventh Re­ With your permission I should like port 1 elating to Ministry of Irriga­ to raise two issues I should request tion and Power the hon Minister of Parliamentary Affaus to convey this to the vanous Ministers for making statement next RAILWAY CONVENTION COM­ week You are awaie that the indus­ MITTEE trial units in U P are seriouslv aftect- cd by power cut and production is T h ir d R e p o r t steadily decreasing in dll factories, including the four defrnce factories SHRI R K SINHA (Faizabad) I which aie producing arms and ammu­ beg to present the Thud Report of nitions The U P Go\ ei nment has the Railway Convention Committee, unfortunately exempted the Indalco, 1971 on ‘Commercial and Allied Mat­ one of the aluminium units of the ters (Part I)’. Birlas, but not the ordinance factoues which are so vital to the country’s defence Through the Mimstei of 13.28 brs Parliamentary Affairs I request the hon Minister concerned to make a statement and also take up this mat­ BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE ter with the Chief Minister of UP. and see that defence production is THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN­ not at all affected I al*o request the TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI K RAGHU- hon Minister of Irrigation and Power RAMAIAH) With your permission, to make a statement regarding power Sir, I rise to announce that Govern­ shortage in UP. and other States ment Business in this House during the week commencing 20th February, Secondly, I want your permission; 1973, will consist of —■ the discussion on price-nse should be ( 1 ) Further discussion on the admitted next week. He has not said President’s Address. anything (2) Discussion on the Resolution The third point is regarding Har­ seeking approval of the Pro­ yana teachers You did not allow clamation issued by the Presi­ call attention notice. I wish to utilise dent in respect of the State this opportunity to bring to your kind of Andhra Pradesh. notice that the strike was primarily 349 B. O. H. PHALGUNA 4, 1804 (SAKA) B O. H. 250 held because ol the non-implementa- sion between them. But certain in­ tion of the Kothari Commission re­ cidents have been created by some commendations. There have been anti-social elements or by some over- police atrocities committed on the excitable youngmen. I would request teachers, including lady teachers, in the hon. Minister to make a state­ Delhi. I would request you to ask ment on this next week, as early as the Education Minister and the Home possible, say, the next Monday so Minister to make a statement----- that the people know the exact posi­ tion as these rumours are going on MR. SPEAKER: So many ingenious here and there. They are creating ways of bringing it every day! trouble. That should be stopped. A statement should be made early to SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: What hap­ allay the apprehensions in the minds pened in Delhi cannot be raised in of the people on this side or on that the Haryana Assembly. It can be side. I repeat that the people of raised only here. I would request Bengal and Orissa have the best of you to kindly ask the Education Minis­ their relations. There is no reason ter and the Home Minister to make a whatsoever that that should be dis­ statement on that. turbed.

Secondly, the former Minister of Health, Mr. Dikshit had made a cate­ Hj-flsq, f w v fW ) if *ppi ^ gorical statement about the students fttin ^ % vji'n'l tni>3T t 1 f of the Faridabad Medical College. t srf % f^TTT #znr % 1 These Medical College students are now on a fast in Delhi. Practically, weft % afar | 1 nothing has been done. The Govern­ TO % fatr m fa ir ^ | 1 ment is honour-bound to let the House know what concrete steps v te rd 1 vifhFTT tit ffctf «ft ?ft^T they have taken to allay their appre­ %*sr % t 1 ttbt srsot wrrft tit &rrc hensions and also to meet their de­ ^ 1 rfr ^ -syri? ? mands. *rrr % fr*r srnNr | % m Lastly, I had also given a Call fair w r t sftr ^ w q r Attention on this issue and I have t 1 also drawn your attention to it and that is about the teachers of Haryana. About 5000 teachers have been arrest­ SHRI SAMAR GUHA (Contai): I ed. If the incident had happened in would like to draw your attention to Haryana, I would not have said about a number of unfortunate incidents it. There are two important points. that have taken place in Orissa and The first is about the arrest of teachers West Bengal over an editorial that in Delhi and the other is about the was written by a Calcutta daily. It grievance of teachers in regard to the was a very undesirable editorial may­ treatment meted out to them in jail. be written inadvertantly. Although This is a matter which involves the they have published a prompt apo­ Homo Ministry The Home Minister logy on the front page yet that has should make a statement on that. led to a number of incidents in Orissa Their whole demand is based on the and Bengal. The rumours are going Kothari Commission’s Report---- tm that hundreds of people of either .side have been killed which are ab­ MR SPEAKER: Once in a while, solutely baseless. The relations bet­ please listen to the Chair also. Kindly ween the people of Bengal and Orissa sit down. are the best. They have very good relations. There is no reason what­ SHRI SAMAR GUHA: As the mat­ soever that there should be any ten­ ter relates to the recommendations 251 * . o. n. FEBRUARY 23, 1973 B. O. H.

[Shri Samar Guhajj made by the Kothari Commission i tpmc 4 w v 4 F tvtw 4arr $ . . . which comes within the purview of (aq^STR). . . . the Central Government to make a statement thereon. MR. SPEAKER: I am not going to- MR SPEAKER: This is an after­ allow a general debate on this. thought. jfwwr W* l iw w : f W SHRI DINEN BHATTACHARYYA cT^ BiTWt ?FT WWW $ flRVR ^ WWW4 (Serampor): Sir, I have received a telegram from Shri Robin Sen from ferr ^ d i ff . . . . Asansol that on the 20th of this month (sqr^H1) .... at Narainpuri village under Ramgai P. S.. 20 houses belonging to Bhons 1 am not who belong to Hanjan class have been gutted Their properties, paddies and allowing it. snfeTC ^ ^ | cash money have been looted, and the terror is still going on One Mr sft w?* vwsm Kailash Hazam has been murdered I want a statement from the Govern­ ment. We have also written to the ^ T^T ff I *n?T Prime Minister but she has not yet f ftr $*tt vfrr replied. For the last three days we have been getting dozens of telegrams: *TPFfhT ^ *Ft *ft tT^TT ^Wr, panicky people are sending telegrams 5frrr % wm % w t that, in spite of the Polire brtins "re­ fr? si'ttnsg % 3TT^ ^ sent—and even sometimes with the help of the Police—this repression by i *rre % art tftfr * the goondas and the attacks on Hari- a iw w w 4 t w «rr 44c ^sr 4ir?r Jans are going on Mr Robin Sen. the i * armr ^ r r | fa m ftm M P of this area, has sent a telegram to me and he wants that Government Must make a statement on this and STTT VfTTT^ I this sort of thing must be stopped. I plead with vou. Sir, to convev our W«W : if% Wtftpft STRT f t feelings to the Government STFT % rTTWJsF TWifr ) The imbalance is calculated SHRI K. RAGHU RAMAIAH: On annually. that matter I have not said anyxhmg because I have a'ready told the hon. (ii) The outstanding figure in res­ leader^ silting on the Opposition ben­ pect of confirmed L/Cs included in ches that will bo meeting them within the new Trad" Plan is Rs 69.50 mil­ the next few minutes and then we lion The outstanding 1 alance at shall sort it out. the beginning of the cuirent Trade A rr in foment with Egypt was R*. 10 70 million in favour o’ Egypt.

13.40 hrs It r regretted that fh^ could not be brought to th<. notice of tlie House CORRECTION OF ANSWER TO S.Q. earlier , * :>sco»U mint* the precise NO 17*5. D ^ te d 24-11-7*! RE. TRADE positin’ t has taken »ome time. AGREEMENT BETWEEN INDIA AND EGYPT F* FCTJONS T'> COMMITTEES MR SPEAKER: Shri A. C. George. Item No 10 of the Agenda. (1) Cardamom Board MR SPEAKER Agnir, Mr. A C. George Item No 11. THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE A. C GEORGE): Mr Speaker. Sir, MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI in answer to the supplementary ques­ A C. GEORGE)* I beg to move the tions___ following: —

MR. SPEAKER: You may lay it “That in pursuance of sub-sec- on the Table of the House. tion (3) (c) of Section 4 of the Cardamom Act, 1965, the members of this House do proceed to elect, in SHRI A. C. GEORGE: I beg lo lay such manner as the Speaker may it on the Table of the House. direct, one member from among themselves to serve as a member of Statement the Cardamom Board, vice Shr» M Rajangam died.*' In answer to the supplementary questions asked by Shri M. Ram MR SPEAKER: The question is: Gopal Reddy regarding the trade im­ “lhat m pursuance of sub-section balance between India and Egypt and (3) (c) of Section 4 of the Car­ in pursuance of the ruling given by d a m o m Act, 1965, the members of the Hon’ble Speaker. Shn A. C. tnjs House do proceed to elect, in George, Deputy Minister, Foreign siuh manner as the Speaker may Trade had stated:— direct, one member from among themselves to servo as a member of (i) “The imbalance is calculated lhe Cardamom Ro’rd rice Shu M. quarterly” . Rajangam died ” (ii) “The outstanding figure is 69 million rupees” . The motion twos adopted. In the above statement there are 8401 LS—8 255 ^ 6. H.A.H. Dis. FEBRUARY 23, 1973 President’s Address (M) 256

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SHKI BUTA SINGH (Rupar): 1 5ft TTif I, g to- move the following:

“ That this House do recommend to Rajya Sabha that Rajya Sabha do elect one member of Rajya Sabha in accordance with the system of 13.44 hrs. proportional representation by means of the single transferable MOTION OF THANKS ON THE PRE­ vote to the Committee on the Wel­ SIDENT’S ADDRESS— contd. fare of Scheduled Castes and Sche­ duled Tribes in the vacancy caused MR. SPEAKER: The House will by the appointment of Shri Sukhdev now resume discussion on the Motion Prasad as Deputy Minister and do of Thanks on the President’s Address. communicate to this House the narr'e Shri Goswami was on his legs. He of the member so elected by P.ajya has already taken enough time. He Sabha to the Committee.” . has taken 12 minutes already. He can have a few minutes more. Shri MR. SPEAKER; The question is: Vajpayee wanted to go, he can I'peak after Shri Goswami. “That this House do recomme'i.d to Rajya Sabha that Rajya Sabha The Private Members’ Business will cit elect one member of Rajya Sal';ha start at 3-30 p .m . Till then we will ir accordance with the system of have discussion on the President’s p'c-portional repr.jsentation by Address. means of the single transferable vote to the Committee on the Wel­ We now adjourn for lunch to re­ fare of Schduled Castes and Sche­ assemble at 2-45 P.M. duled Tribes in the vacancy caused by the appointment of Shri Sukhdev 13.45 hrs. Prasad as Deputy Minister and do comm.unicate to this House the name The Lok Sabha Adjourned for Lunch of the member so elected by Rajya Till Forty-Five Minutes Past Faur- Sabha to the Committee.” teen of the Clock

The motion was adopted.

The Lok Sabha re-assembled after RE: HALF-AN-HOUR DISCUSSION lunch at forty-eight minutes past Fourteen of the Clock. MR. SPEAKER; I wish to inform the Members that the Half-an-hour (M r . D e p u t y -S p e a k e r in the Chair) Discussio'^ today is postponed. The Member has requested for its post- MOTION OF THANKS ON THE ponment. PRESIDENT’ S ADDRESS—coiitd.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (.Kam'ur): MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Shri Seme of us give names and the names Dinesh Chandra Goswami. are ballotted and we do net know whether again for the same day we SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: (Dia­ will have to send our names again or mond Harbour); I have nothing to the f£,me thing will co”.iinuc raise today. 57' President’s PHALGUNA 4. 1894 (SAKA) President's 258 Address (M) Address (M) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: He did I will cite an example to show how everything in the forenoon. our educational system has become obsolete today. My brother in class SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU: We have VIII was reading a poem ‘CosabiaTtv-.- got a very good Speaker, Sir. a story well known to most of us. Tr- poem describes a father who was an SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GO- officer in the navy. He carried his SWAMI (Gauhati): I was submitting child to a ship which was engaged in yesterday about the restlessness in a battle. He asked the boy to stand this country because of the angry In a particular position i^i the ship young generation, and I was submit­ saying ‘Do not move until 1 come ting that unless something could be back’. Then he went to battle apd done about this angry young genera­ unfortunately died. Meanwhile the ship tion in this country, the country shall caught fire. But the body did not m.ove have to face indefinite trouble. After because his father did not c'^rr.c and all, every unemployed young man ask him to do so. So h'-2 died in that today ip this country is a volcano and position. Can you expect a boy of is creating new social and political today who has learnt to think by him­ problems, and unless we can solve self because of the effect of democracy their problems, however pious our will be inspired by such a story? ’ihis wishes may be, this country may go tvpe of thinking might have been in in misguided directions. good oas some years back. Further, I was submitting that r. become obsolete today and I do not complete and overall change in the think our younger generation can be approach of the educational systero i"’:pired by such a way of thinking has also become necessary. The edu­ that parents’ advice should be follow­ cational system in this country hrs ed to the latter even though it may primarily been a legacy of the British be extremely harmful. raj. I do not say that we have not gained anything from this educational Take the entire literature. Or take system. But we must also bear it the Hindi films. In every Hindi film in mind that things have undergone today, there is the word dil. There rapid changes in the entire v/orld is not a single film without dil during the last few years. The world K;.-',otions have been at+ributed to the has become smallar. Things which we hee-'t. But after heart transplanta­ could not comprehend a few j^eprs tion, it has been proved that the heart back have now become realities is iust a pumping machine and his Man has landed on the moon, and nothing to do with the emotions. In attempt is continuing to conquer other literary pieces and in the school syj- planets. Various other things of im­ labii we compare the beauty of our mense dimensions have taken place. sweetheart with the moon. But after But unfortunately, the educational Armstrong has landed on the moo:i system in the country has not under­ wc know that the moun is not so gone any basic change to keep pace beautiful to be described as such. with these changes. What I am submitting is that thir;gs We talk about socialism. May I ask have changed. The sy.9tr-rn must change myself and my friends whether our to impart a new basic idea into the educational system gives any impres­ younger generation. Therefore, a sion about socialism to the students. complete change in the entire educa­ Does the educational system teach our tional system in the appToach is students the basic values for which necessary. we stand? Unless ideas about these basic ideologies are introduced into In paragraph 16 erf his Address, the the educational system, we cannot President makes a reference to it. impart it to the students. ’ But no concrete proposals have been 2S9 ]*re*ident*$ FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Salaries and Allowances 26a Address (M) of M.P.? (A’mdi.) Bill [Shri Dinesh Chandra Goswami] man was depicted to have come to put forward. I fell that a psychologi­ office after a lew clays. His friends cal change in society has also become iu'.ed lum, “ What hats happened to necessary. I have found that the vou? Why did you not attend office tendency in the you»-v generation for the last few days?” He replied* today is to become either a politician “For once I took unadulterated ghee or a cinema star. We have associa­ and I had stomach trouble.” There­ ted the profession of pjl:tici and that fore, the situation is that our body is of the cinema attar with a certain arti­ so accustomed to the adulterated ficial grandeur which is attracting the things that we cannot consume un­ yinth. We have not p’ aced the tca- adulterated things. Therefore, I a^k ehexs, the peasants and artisans m this House to ponder over the point the pedestal in which they should that the time has come when adultera­ have been placed. No bright ycung tion at source should be made a man wants to be a tether because m capital offence. I will plead for it shirty we have not beer able to put before this Hout>e. the teacher m his rightful place How can you expect this country to pm- Befjre I conclude, I only want to grcss at the proper p'v* unless you makp a reference to a particular por­ put the teachers, works*’-; the men in tion of th° speech made by Mr. Fivnk the profession in their rightful place’ Anthorv Mr Frank Anthony, in Therefore, a psychological chancy in tV course of his speech yesterday, the entire society is necessnxy I made rcrtnm uncharitable remarks think the present educational sysrom pbout the Congress, organisation He cannot bring about such a psychologi­ said that the Congress is a movement; cal change. From that aspect also I and not a pnrtv. that in the larger feel a change in the basic approach umbrella of the Congress, people of in the educational system is necessary al1 colours and character have been brought in, and he asked how this Because my time is short, I will Congress can deliver the goods Sir, pass on to another point which has this type of prophecy is not new to not been touched in the Presidential the Congress people. This type of pro­ Address. phecy has been made even during the * Independence movement or was made MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The last even before we were born. In the In­ point. dependence movement, it was asked how the Congress organisation led by SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GO. a naked fakir would be able to bring SWAMI: I will take just two minu­ Independence. But Independence did tes. come. After that, it was said that ow­ ing to fortuitous circumstance Inde­ Mention has been made about rising pendence has come but that the Con­ prices, but I will refer to one menace, gress Government would not be able the menace of adulteration of food­ to deliver the goods. But the Congress stuffs, which is one of the most im­ Government has bean in power for portant things to which we should so many years. I therefore submit give serious attention. W e know how that a person like Mr. Frank Anthony a few mo&ths back the people of nn who has no association with the com­ entire village of Bengal were paralys­ mon people of this country will not ed by consuming adulterated mustard be able to understand the pulse of the Oil. There was also a report that such Congress. % thing happened by consuming adul* tierated dal also. 4 The strength of the Congress tfcs f In the big umbrella unde* which A ttmriM Ago, I saw to one of have been* able to bring tam m m tfc* newspapers a cartoon in which a men. the population, tmci z 6 i President’s PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) President’s 262 A ddress (M) A ddress (M) therefore, the common people under­ fcTirrsFr ^ ^ sfr ^ stand the pulse of the Congress, and I ^ 1 1 the Congresss understands the piuse of the common people, and tne ^r

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COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE MEM­ ^ ^TRT ^FT |?rr BERS’ BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS

T w e n t y -S e c o n d R e p o r t w'O r ^c\ 11^ % ^ 'TT ^ ^ wn?r ^ |TT 11 ^ % SHRI K. LAKKAPPA; (Tum kur): I ■fewre % ^TTTHf ^ ^•■'tiR beg to move: f w ^ Tfr 11 5nft t % 'f^TR ^ “That this House do agree with felT I >T^ % T^ot^oi:^ the Twenty-second Report of the ^ ?TR>T ^f'TFrr ? fk ^rN' % f^q; ^ tttr h Committee on Private Members’ Bills and Resolutions preiented to ^ f e n t p t t I ^ «ft ^ ^ the House on the 21st February w ^ ^ ^r ^ 1973.” I 5ftT ? 5fr ?rra- ^ ferr ^ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques­ 1^ f% ^ ^PTirt f tion is: «ft Tzrmn^^i? f^rsr tiTVir) : “That this House do agree with the Twenty-second Report of the snr q|f, ^ ^ I Committee on Private Members’ Bills and Reiolutions presented to ssft ?T??T f^ ^ iT t STTsi-qtrlf : the House on the 21st February ^rorf ^ ^ W9X f?qT ^ Tf t 11 1973.” 5FR0T I Pp qrof^ % ? rm m Jr sRft The motion was adopted (?rr^ ^ JTf 5fT> ^ f^riTT I I % fer ^ ^ 15.30-1/2 hrs. ^ I I sr^lf ^ fe^ ^ ■»T3r SALARIES AND ALLOWANCES OF ^ ^ CTf^cTFT ^ fenT ^ ■ff+3'T MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT I 5ftr ^

^r?3T^ ^ =frM ^ TfT 11 ^ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Dr. Kami Singh. ^ ^ 11 tTt^ 5 ^ DR. KARNI SINGH (Bikaner): Sir. II fro ^ ^ srsTFT ^ ?mr [ beg to move for leave to introduce % cT^ T f^rqr ?rnT a Bill further to amend the Salaries T^a: 13ft Hrfr % and Allowances of Members of Parliament Act, ISS-i. ^ q f ^ I ^ SRsfr TT ^ MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The 5rr | , ^ ^ question is: ^ fflT I “That leave be granted to introduce a B 11 further to amend MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We take the Salaries and Allowancen of up Private Members’ Business now. Members of Parliament Act, 1954.”

Shri K. Lakkappa- SHRI S. A. SHAMIM (Srinagar): I am opposing the motion at the introduction stage.

* Published in Gazette of India Extraordinary P art II, Section 2 dated 23rd February, 1973. 277 Salaries and PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Allowances of MPs 27 i (Arndt.) Bill MR. DEPQTY-SPEAKER: You ought You are entitled to these views, but, to have given notice. at the stage when the Bill i,3 taken up for consideration. Now, we are SHRI S. A. SHAi'-IIIVI: I have sent. concerned only whether this Bill can I have written to the Speaker this be introduced or noT. morning, SHRI S. A. SHAMIM: Whether this if’ 5T Bill shou-d be introduced or not? In any case, this is going to be put to fTfoT’TT^'fr ^ fRTIT t T vote. I am opposing this Bill on aT § FTT3THf^ ^ principle. spT ^-TT - MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please sit '5Tf -,Tf # a^TTr down. Kindly understand me Slso. The question of whether the Bill Trfiifr K should be introduced or not is the 5T3n^ responsibility of the Committee on Private Members’ Bills and Resolu­ ffTtVp ^T^TTr^r JTP?^r?T JTT? ^ tions. Here, we are concerned only TT ^ fVT :i'5 ftrT Iff with whether the hon. Member has any legal or constitutional objection ?r?'=T ^TiiT f I ^ m |T to the Bill being introduced. What the hon. Member is saying is that thi.= MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Mr. Bil: is not right, is proper and. Shamim. sit down for a minute. You therefore, it should not bs accepted. are entering into the merits of the That is the burden of his argument.. Bill. I am not shutting you out, but, SHRi S. A. SHAMIM: You have not pleane listen to me. All these argu­ unfortunately seen what the r\ile says. ments are against the Bill itself. Now, The rule-book only says that if any we are concerned only with its hon. Member wants to oppose the introduction. Have you any objection introduction, he may do so, and leaves to its introduction on any ground, it at that. The heavens will not fall constitutional or legal, which would if you bear with me for a few minutes. prevent this Bill to come before the I shall try to explain that this Bill Houije? What you are saying, from has a motive, namely that the what I understand, is that you are Members of thii Parliament should opposing the contents of the Bill be brought into contempt before the which you can do when the Bill is people. His case is that the Members taken up. are drawing allowances, and if you care to read the Statement of Objects SHRI S. A. SHAMIM: I must speak and Reasons, you will find that it says: in English. Obviously, you do not understand the language, which I am “The Members of Parliament speaking. The Rule Book does not enjoy a .spectrum of privileges and isay legal or constitutional, at least the allowances.” one which I possess. My objection to the Bill is that this is obviously to This is not charity. These privileges malign the MPs and the mptives are are there because we are supposed to playing to the gallery and cheap perform certain functions. Why not gimmickry. All these privileges, introduce a Bill providing that when calculated in termis of money, Members should have no salary and are absolutely nothing. I get a salary they chould not have any allowance? of Rs...... All these days, we have been trying MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; This does to raise the issue of prices. The two not change what I have said that you Maharajas who intend to move this are entering into the merits of the Bi’l. Bill V . . 2 -.$ Salaries and FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Allowances of M.P.s 280 (Arndt,) Bill DE. KARNI SINGH: There are no Parliament, it does not exclude us— Maharajas now. should aL practise what we preach. It is because of this that I had SHRI S. A. SHAMIM. I am sorry. expected that the House would have I am referring to the two ex- applauded this Bill. I am not opposed Maharajas who want to move this to gums of money spent .. . Bill The rise m prices applies to SHRI S A. SHAMIM. Thi<> it, a Bill MPs as well as rfon-MPs. I want to submit before this House that an with a vengeance. MP is as adversely affected as the SHRI HEMENDRA SINGII BANERA common man. After all, all of us do (Bhilwara): He has received crores not have a private income an these of rupees by way of privy purses all hon. Members have. Actually, they these years w.thout any income-tax do not need any allowance, and they (Interruptions). should come forward and &av that they do not want any allowance. SIIRI S A SHAMIM Mv telephone Dr. Karni Singh was telling me that bill ib Rs. 1,000. 1 am a poor Member; he was not drawing any allowance. I have no pnvate income. The nation is grateful to him (Inter­ ruptions.) It should be credited to the National Defence Fund. Only to MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER Shu & A wm cheap popularity that these Shamim ha made his point clear ex-Maharajas have turned socialist, already Nov/, let us hear Dr Karni they want to decrease the allowances Singh and put income-tax barriers My humble submission is that this is not DR KARNI SINGII I do not know just and this is putting hon Members why lht< hon. Member is io appre­ who have been talking about socialirm hensive, becau^c f his slab of taxation etc. to a very difficult test. is more (Interruptions) MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER Order. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER think the Now, let us hem Dr Karm Singh I hon, Member has made his v.ews shall put the question bei'oie the hon. quite clear----- Members and it is for them to decide.

SHRI S. A SHAMIM I have iust SHRI S A SHAMIM* Thp great started. This going to affect your marksman has missed his mark. salary also. Once this m accepted, it is going to affect all of us, and once DR KARNI SINGH The appoal that this affects our allowances, it will I would like to make to the House affect our functioning, and once it is this. Merely making anything affects our functioning, the whole personal of it and ridiculing it is of parliamentary democracy would be in no uu e. That does not take away danger, and, therefore, my plea is the seriousness of the mattei. that this Bill should not be allowed It is quite possible that hon. to be introduced. members can say ‘former Maharajas' when the whole world knows they DR. KARNI SINGH. I would very are finished. It ii ancient history. humbly like to place before the House Last year and the year before that it is not my intention at any I introduced two Bills, one for free stage to bring the House into contempt compulsory education for children -with the people. However, I do feel upto the age of 14, another for that since the country stands to oppose unemployment relief and another for all kinds of privilege®, it is necepsar# old age insurance. All these were we in parliament—and that opposed in this House on the plea thcludes me too* because when It that ! brought it as the von of a -comes to ex-Prince* and Member* of former ruler. jzSt Salaries and Allowances PHALUGAN 4, 1894 (SAKA) Constitution 282 of M.P.s {Arndt.) BUI What 1 want the hon. Hou&e to MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques­ realioe is this; if you want to oppose, tion is: oppose on principle. In this case, the opposition should h e that MPs are “That leave be granted to intro­ entitled to a privilege and they should duce a Bill further to amend the continue to have it. Okay. That is Salaries and Allowances of Mem­ a point of view. Or you can say that bers of Parliament Act, 1954*’. MPs should not have the privilege The motion was negatived. and they should be nubjected to the same taxation as the rest of the people MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Leave is That is the other point of view—that refused. is my point of view. SHRI MURASOLI MARAN (Madras South): On a point of order. There The hon. member may have a very has been a convention in this House small income and he will not be that no Private Member’s Bill has paying tax. I am not a fraud or ever been opposed at the introduc­ humbug to say that I do not pay tax. tion stage. I am paying 97 per cent tax. I am MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: 11 is not a proud of it. Probably in five years, convention: it is the pleasure of the I will have nothing to pay. That is the taxation structure in the country. House to give leave or not to give leave.

I have worked it out. As against approximately Rs. 6,000 1 draw as 15.44 hrs: allowance from Parliament, I would have to earn almost Rs 2£ lakhs to CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) clear Rs. 6,000 which should be the BTLL* normal case if the allowance-ineome attracted income-tax. That is the (Amendment of Seventh Schedule) taxation. srr (arifm ): sfftar, $ snRTTf £ f r «TTTcr % Therefore, I feel that the man in the street and the Members of Par­ sfasriJT sfK *h?fcR «rr% M w liament should be subject to- the same taxation and we do not want double yardsticks. I am quite sure MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER- The ques that Parliament is not at any stage fion is: adverse to the fact that they should “That leave be granted to intro­ be subject to the same tax burdens. duce a Bill frrther to amend the Constitution oi Incha '* Take the privileges. I would like to be clear in my mind that it is not The motion was adopted. my desire that at any stage the func­ tioning of an MP, to discharge his *T*if3r at • *r fa&snr 'T w t- duties, should be hampered. That fq^r V75TT f 1 is not *my intention. But I do feel that taxation is something that ap­ plies to all Indians. Therefore, there CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) should be some uniformity. BILL* CAmendment of arts. 100 and 189) With this, I conclude my remarks. If Hie bon. House in its wisdom SHRI R. P. ULAGANAMBI (Vellore): •'Continue, throw the Bill out. I beg to move for leave to introduce

•Published in Gazette of India Extraordinary, Part II, section 8, dated 2S-2-72. 283 Constitution FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Constitution 284. (Amdt.) Bill (Arndt.) Bill [Shri R. P. Ulaganambi] a Bill further to amend the Consti­ | \ TnrFrR $ itrranit, Jrsrrft,. tution of India. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques­ ^tST, ffy ^ TOR I I sW* tion is: A *fr wiwft ^ tstt 1 1 t jp ffrr “That leave be granted to intro­ i TOT t ^ET^t ^fWt tffaTR- duce a Bill further to amend the Constitution of India”. $ ^ ftr^TT ^rrf^tT \ f a w T *n f\ -, <£pt * r k The motion was adopted. SHRI R. P. ULAGANAMBI: in­ f a 5R>R % ^ R T troduce the Bill. I *TTT sfr^TT I fo T O R f f w f a ^ f^ rr i 15.45 hrs. CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) TT^«nTr ^"T s r t h r v P T BILL—contd. T R JT T ir 5T2T g?TT ®TT eft T t focT^T (Amendment of Eighth Schedule) by Dr. Kami Singh ^ t% 3 t 3% ? f a r R T wk MB. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We now f^rr *Ttrr 1 qr^r % take up further cor.-' Irr'ition oi th? % fs rn jt?; t o t following motion moved by Dr. Kami »rar f * T 3eT'!>T f 5fth December, 1072: “That the Bill further to amend T T ^ q T ^ r O f TOr f^ V ft ^rfv ^T% 0; I the Constitution of India, be taken VTTCfr fR- into consideration”, % ? ttt *r n r ? r i t as also further consideration of amend­ ment for circulation of the Bill for the ?rr?fT jf; it 7^% ^rr ?Ftt snf^R ' purpose of eliciting opinion thereon, *r$r | ft^rr fr ^rf^rr 1 pr moved by Shri M. C. Daga on the 15th December 1972. Shri S. N. Singh was on his feet on the last occasion.—He is not here. 1^* O Trflf*ft«TW (l> yWT- Shri Onkarlal Berwa. 3 F? ) : ^T T flra r 3 % " T" f TTJft ‘ W4aTT m w 3TT3TT ( * ) & ) t 5Br>f?:?fr ? m sm -sO T t o w 1 1 • * *

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i m r % w n- v f t j t w t ?ft TOrq-' v m ?f?nr 11 ?t*tt Ttf^raT^ *r r m 1 1 ^ l | m p f T * F T I ?ST fa ^ rr^srpfr Jj- wrm, w % ^ V? SPT ^ I V%T ^ ^Tcfr 1 3f5T ¥r vr$ few *rfr ^TT ftr «PT HTWT Si: T m r T^T TOT ?flT tjjt q r f?r?T% T O ^ W s r ? r o t o t T m r l ^ | > tt i w w W frr m * t o t *r .., («nv*r*).. .A ^ ^ fW T SPPS fat* 1 f*T% 3ft jtn ???{• ?rrwr i ^ f^ fr IRTFTT afraFt ^ f, ?pT "r^r # 1 ?rr«r ^ar s*rw *R?3pT sfTT^ f fa JTST % O T f ^ r if gfr 5f?tf5n?r ^rrir. f i fefCr TOPFFT % W fW WT | I fir sffv *.tcjto* ft-tr ’nTffror, flpfr t o t 13^ | $ft(% ^fV ^ rrT^r *r?srir }^r «rc tfT^^ST % f^tr I \ f ^ V .?T| f t | i:lrfipr 285 Constitution PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Constitution 286 (Arndt.) Bill (Amdt.) Bill literany development. Speaking vraw4t *mr sm< sr | 4o about Rajasthani, I am sure Rajastha­ iTTrslr | *rr w ? f t t 1 . . . ni remains as a spoken dialect, much (W W W m ) . . .*TT SPPTT % *f\X less as a language with written litera­ ture. In the absence of sustained HiTW ^FT ^ i 5T^TT % TF3T- literatery development and in view of tnp *m r % i ?r> foq the fact that it derives its origin from eft merged its identity with Hindi, to 3 m % faster ^Tctt g me there seems to be no justification for including Rajasthani as an Indian im w language in the 8th Schedule. Rajas­ | «Rft ^ cRf vrm *Pt tft PTH- ^rr than is already a State and 1 think ^ art *r ?rwcrr g smstoFT ^ the basic desire of having a linguistic State has been satisfied. Therefore, $>TT ^rf^tr I the 8th Schedule should not be bur­ SHRI SURENDRA MOHANTY dened again with a language which (Kendrapara): Mr. Deputy-Speaker, has no distinct literary development. Sir, I rise not so much as to support SHRI DASARATHA DEB (Tripura or oppose the Bill, but I wish to em­ phasise and underline certain aspects East): I fully support this Bill mov­ ed by Dr. Karni Singh. If any langu­ of the Eighth Schedule to our Cons­ age is asked to be placed in the 8th titution and bring them to the notice Schedule, it should not be considered of the House which, I feel, should as if it is aimed against any other have a barring on the dispassionate language because we live in India consideration of the Bill. with so many nationalities. Every Sir, you will find that in the language spoken by any Indian must Eighth Schedule as many as 15 langu­ find a place in it; every language ages have been enumerated. Barring must be given equal treatment and the Tamil languages, so far to my placed on a proper footing and knowledge, none of these languages equally respected. I do not know have a history which goes beyond what is the difference between Rajas­ perhaps the 13th centurv It is only thani and Hindi. But if there is any Tamil whose genesis goes back much difference, if there is a possibility earlier according to eome philologists. that can deve­ The rest of the language are derived lop independently, it must be includ­ from apabhramsha, whether it is ed. Hmdi or Bengali or any other lang­ At the same time, I say there are uage. Coming to Rajasthani, it is other languages such as Nepali, not a distinct language; it is derived Manipuri. As I said that if any lan­ from Sauraseniapa-bhramsha. The guage is spoken by any Indian it ancient texts in Rajasthani should be included and should were written in a dialect known as jft !«rr^ 1 m : w

W « r, VT«f *nrrwr frarw f i t ^rfr crt xrsfwrr^ *nrt («ft ?ftf?mir.ffrf wt^Tt) . «rm % 'Tfrfar ^ *rm 5f?r ft ^TTiSRT ^Tft««r, *rf[ Or?r ^ff^rerT^ % srfr srmwMt ^rr ft «mrf«r T O f ?ri£?r ^f wifter* % f ^ *rm vm «rr^ t i f*rerrcr sresqr ft ftor | I TO vt ^ ^ ’TTSR ft*TT ftp *nff'7, Vf< *TcT ft ^ | O T FT ^Trw^sr ? P T ^ 3 4 4 ( 1 ) ?ftT 3 5 1 sr*rc tft srYc «ft irrcrr^ **r % | , m x Z T f r t qr? art *tpt^t qf^TT %!?r if f i *rm t, %&narir, wffc *t*ft f, f% ^«rr 3f|?r #ftrfr | 1 ?W f %% m vrrof «pr tern ftTr ^t%% SSTTB^T W T t : f f f t ^TRTPT STTT *J7?t 5fT^ ftit % f a * o ' %*rr. 3Tffc*T % W f w 3TT?rr I 344. “The President shall, at the ex­ piration of five years from the com­ ^ ^ i « ft m x *n*?rft rft? «tt trTT %rm mencement of this Constitution and ft »rct sft *t# er ¥fr qforrfa ^ thereafter at the expiration of ten years from such commencement, by ftn r , *r& % f*ra ff?ft *rt srf?r * m order constitute a Commission which f fit srtr *rf *rf fr «rfrt % * r $ shall consist of a Chairman and such ^ *rr*Frr «n: *tt vsrmr TrsrwR *r other members representing the diffe­ rent languages specified in the Eighth %ftx ^rf f«f?t % fadsr *r srwr-c * * * i Schedule as the President may app­ ?*r *r eft faro $ 'm oint, and the order shall define the * n f $ t %^FT ^rft rTfT TOfft itfTOTrr ^ precedure to be followed by the Com­ mission.” ^TFT ^ ^ ^TcT ^ # ^*rar ^ I 351. “It shall be the duty of the f ^ f t f t %w ^ TTsjta *rm ?fk Union to promote the spread of the ¥ t f *rnrr *r%t, s?rert s m ? m ^rr Hindi language, to develop it so that srrff* ^Jfr m *riT * r r m % it may serve as a medium of expres­ sion for all the elements of the com­ erfWR fW rr wrfFr, ? b t faw r f fit posite culture of India and to secure ^rrff^, $*rt *t Jrer ?rft f1 s w * its enrichment by assimilating with­ *rr% vfa'ar $ spptt a t farenft stfth out interfering with its genius, the forms, style and expressions used in | w r r fTO^r ft, ?T5r *r«3r f i ary, primarily on Sankrit and secon­ I’pRjRT; darily on other languages/’ inar TnsnFW wft wt m m f 5 * T r n q r ftn?TT frtrr f W wnn ^?ft f gft r{ap ^ ^ arrt Tt ft arrcrr | ffc to ? ,#fjw ■ ^lt ftfr #.wiff-ip?rc S »«rrer % t M t wrm *?t v tft m *r xm% i :? t ; 4 8 9 Constitution PHALGUNA 4. 1894 (SAKA) Constitution 2 9 ° (Am it.) Bill (Arndt.) Bill ’RT'TT TOW % 4o44t «FT SrTWl4ac* condly, he said that Sankrit has been given a place in the Eighth Schedule ^ ftTT I t o % *J5* % 1968 ^ although the number of speakers of ^rr i t favr ^ ff^T 5tt i s*rzr ^t^tt this language is only 2212. He also quoted Dr. Suniti Kumar Chatterjee sar? f t 16 q»T^r, i 968 wt *tft- extensively to indicate the conflict #PT ^T*T *TT^ k ?F|T «TC, ^ $ S€?r which exists between Hindi and other regional languages. About the second f> : point, I have just read article 351. Sanskrit is the basis on which the “What is the purpose of the vocabulary has to be developed. .Eighth Schedule? If we look to Therefore, Sanskrit has been inclu­ the Eighth Schedule, it has some­ ded in the Eighth Schedule About the thing t odo with Articles 344 and allegation that figures of Hindi-speak­ 351. They have got a specific pur­ ing people during the 1971 consus have pose for which they are mentioned been inflated, this is something which there. We have very carefully av­ is absolutely preposterous and against oided including any other langua- facts. During the census, the opera­ agc. In that Schedule except Sin- tions were conducted by the staff of dhi which we did with complete various State Government. The Cen­ ^unanimity of this House and the tre only issued directions. Mother- other House. It was because of the tongue has been defined as the lan­ fact that in Sind it was their langu­ guages spoken in childhood by the age and Sind was part of undivided person’s mother to the person. If the India. It was a language accepted mother died in infancy, the language .as a regional language of that re­ mainly spoken in the person’s home gion and m the process of indepen­ in childhood will be the mother- dence, as a result of partition, Sind tongue. In the case of infants and was lost to India and, therefore. deaf mutes the language usually Sindhis lost their home. So, it spoken by the mother shall be re­ was a recognition of a patriatic peo­ corded. All this recording has been ple and of their language when done by the State Governments* offi­ they had to leave their homeland cers going from village to village, «nd come here.” house to house, individual to indivi-* dual. All that information was com­ piled by the States and sent to the “If a language has become the Centre. The Centre has just repro­ official language of a State also, it duced those figures. is not n ecessary that it should be mentioned in the Eighth Schedule. SHRI G. VISWANTHAN (Wandi- The development of a language is •something very independent.” wash): How is it that Rajasthani­ speaking population which was 1.47 crores in 1961 consus came down to The position of the Government is the 17 lakhs in the 1971 consus? same and it has not changed. The stand that was taken in 1968 continu­ SHRI NITIRAJ SINGH CHAU- es to be the stand of the Government. DHARY: It might be that under some misaprehension people might 16 hrs. have given Rajasthani or any other language as their mothcr-tongue first. Then with a wider outlook they might During his speech, Mr. Viswanathan have realised that it is only a dialect said that in the census of 1971 the and the base is Hindi and the script figures of Rajasthani and Hindi-spe­ is also Hindi. So, they might have aking people have been manipulated given Hindi. Every individual was ■so as to show that the Hmdi-epeaking free to express his opinion which Persons is larger than in reality. Se­ has been recorded. 291 Constitution FEBRUARY 28, 1*73 Cowfctatoon 3*2.

¥To fs|r (sftor*?:) . ^rrsw SHRI M. C. DAGA (Pali): In order ^FTT'TT ’srrscrr ff v r to earn some money.

ir Jf?T STR^fto- ff^ft * aft W t i DR. KARNI SINGH: I d0 not i t % w f r farr $ ^tt know why any hon. member should ^ Ifc T T % I impute motives. This hon. House should rise to a higher standard. The *§r I fo «T # f§*ft ?Tft moment an institution is started in Madras or Bombay or Calcutta, an ?rrfr t 1 * ^errr &rr g % hon. member gets up and says that 4 ^ sft^r f 1 it is done with ulterior motives. I %TT irf f*TW»T *TW | fa THT- do not think that it is lair; it is de­ grading our House. The hon. Mem- w rfr wvr *r eft *rf ?tt berhas no knowledge of what these % »rr^r v r TrsrFTr^r % ?rr«r people are doing. 5«srn; 9rr?T ?>ift 1 * i r ^ p r The Rajasthan Education Board, «FraT g fa f**r qr f * ?sppr *r fawrr Ajmer, has sanctioned Rajasthani as one of the optional subjects for "the | t «rr* fasrr 1 9th and 10th Classes. The Jodhpur SfThe hon. Member spoke a few words University has increased the Rajas­ in Rajasthan also.) thani Question Papers to three as against one in M.A. (Hindi), and there is every hope that, in other Mr. Deputy-Speaker, since the in­ universities also, the Rajasthani troduction of my Bill, I have received Question Paper will be increased. rmany many letters from people in Rajasthan, from various institutions, I now come to what my hon. and as I had said so when I introduc­ friend, Mr. G. Viswanathan, has very ed the Bill in the House, it fell to my correctly pointed out. The Minister’s lot that I won the ballot and my Bill statement was not very convincing got the opportunity of coming before when he said that the census in 1961 the House. I do not claim to be an had revealed 1.47 erodes as Rajas­ authority on any language, although thani-speaking and that ten years I can say that, from my childhood, later, it has been found that only' 20 I had spoken Rajasthani, as my lakh people speak Rajasthani, I am Mother tongue and the fact that Raj­ not prepared to belive this. I do not asthani is a language lias been borne know where the mistake has occur­ out by great leaders like Pandit red, I was told when I was in Rajas­ Jawaharlal Nehru, Rabindranath than that very often the census peo­ Tagore, Malaviyaji TessttorJ, etc.—all ple just ask the people in the villages o f them considered to be experts. and everywhere* Do you know Constitution - ,295 Constitution FEBRUARY 23, 1973 296 (Amdt.) Bill (Amdt.) Bill [Dr. Kami Singh] I am not stressing for Rajasthani to become State Language. I have ask­ Hindi?, and when they say, ‘Yea; of ed for an experts committee to go into course’, they are immediately prut the matter. I f the hon. Members down as Hindi-speaking. I. think if would only take the trouble of read­ the hon. Minister—1 have great con­ ing any speech in 1968 and the speech; fidence in him; he is a senior mem­ I made in the last session, they would ber— goes more deeply into it, he will find that I never made sucmh a de­ find that somewhere there has been mand. What all I wanted was that a mistake and these figures are not the Experts must advise the Govern­ accurate. ment as to what should be done about it. !sft f ^

%? q- mrmfr m- DR KARNI SINGH: The hon. Mem­ wrqr?rlf % ber, Shri Berwa has just now men­ tioned that there should be Hadoti, % ftnr “ir$ ? Bikaniri, Jodhpuri, Udaipuri, etc. which only are dialectic changes with, DR. KARNI SINGH: He is welcome.. in the State. I would respectfully It is a free country. The hon. Minis­ submit to the House that there are ter said something about Sindhi. He dialectic changes in any part of the said it was the unanimous demand in world. Even English as spoken in this House. I am quite sure if he did America is different from English not issue a whip today there would spoken in England. The English I be unanimity in support of my Bill speak is Rajasthani English. It is In­ also. For the last two months I have dian English. Even in England dia­ been in correspondence with the hon. lectic changes are there if you go from Prime Minister. I have received her North to the South or East to the letter today. I seek your permission est. As a nationalist, I wanted to see to quote extracts from this corres­ that Rajasthan States, 22 of them, pondence. She wrote to me this morn­ were integrated into one Rajasthan ing to say: Sta‘ e so that the emotional integration of Rajasthan oould becreated

r Therefore, I think you will kindly ^ ? permit me to read out some important extracts which would clarify my stand and Government’s stand also. DR. KARNI SINGH: There was a demand just like what happens in An­ I wrote to the Prime Minister on dhra today fo a Maru Pradesh bor­ January 24, 1973 as follows-quote: der State. I was one of those who opposed it from the very beginning. ‘The object of this letter is on the I come from Bikaner; I can easily call subject of the Rajasthani Language my language Bikaneri as the hon. Bill that stands in my name and Member from Jodhpur can call it was partly discussed in the last ses­ Jodhpuri. But if we call it Rajasthani sion of Parliament. This is the se­ it brings about emotional integration. cond time that this Bill has come That is my whole object. That is Up before Parliament and has re­ why I !sftq brtDUght this Bill forward. ceived considerable surr'ort * 9 7 ConttUution PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Coutitution ao8 (Arndt.) BUI (Amdt.) Bit! At the present moment as things satisfy sentimental aspirations, but are in the country, I feel that these cannot confer any benefit or advant­ matters could perhaps be taken up at age to such a language.’* a more opportune moment. However, as you no doubt know, Private Mem­ as said by the hon. Minister bers have very little say when their Bills win a ballot. I do not know what your views are about Languages “We should, therefore, think of like Rajasthani, Maithili, Bhojpuri, other alternatives to preserve and Nepali, etc. being included in the develop the rich cultural and lite- Eighth Schedule of the Constitution, iary heritage of languages like Ra­ but would like to have your views on jasthani, Maithili, Bhojpuri or Ne­ the matter. As a staunch nationalist pali. We would welcome any spe­ and a strong believer in the integrity cific measures which you may sug­ of our country I would like to be guid­ gest in this behalf. Such construc­ ed by your advice. If I withdrew my tive efforts would Be more valuable Rajasthani Language Bill by permis­ than mere inclusion of these langua­ sion of the House at the appropriate ges in the Eighth Schedule.” moment it might be a very good idea if you could generally consider an I feel that the hon. Prime Minister assurance being given to Parliament has been very gracious. She has been tint these major languages of India very practical and you will also admit would be considered at a suitable time that I have also been practical, in as for inclusion in th0 Eighth Schedule much as that in view of the recent of the Constitution. After all even troubles in this country and the fis- Sindhi finds its place there and Rajas­ siparous tendencies that are coming thani has been recognised as a lan­ to head, I had written to the hon. guage by no less persons than your Prime Minister and I felt that this was great father. Pandit Jawaharlalji not the opportune moment to bring Nehru, Shri Malaviaji, Shri Rabindra­ anything before the House that may nath Tagore. Dr. Tessitori, Dr. Becom- create divisiveness and help fissiparous field, etc. It is not my desire at any tendencies. This could come later on. stage that these regional languages So, 1 would like to seek the leave of should reverse the process of Hindi the hon. House to withdraw this Bill in any State but their richness of lite­ on the understanding that an Experts rature should not die out.” Committee will be called by the hon. Prime Minister consisting of linguists The hon. Prime Minister sent me a from all parts of the country, far more reply as follows. This is dated the capable than me, who will be in a 10th of February, I quote: position to place before the Govern­ ment the needs and aspirations of the “I have your letter of the 24th people whose languages are not recog­ January regarding the Rajasthani nised and then find ways and means Language Bill. I appreciate the whereby languages like Rajasthani, sentiments which have prompted Bhojpuri, Maithili, Nepali, Pehadi etc. you to seek the leave of the House may be given their due share and that at the appropriate time for the these great languages do not die but withdrawal of the Bill. in this country. With this, I request leave for the withdrawal of my Bill. There has been considerable misun­ derstanding about the Eighth Schedule. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Before I As you know, this Schedule itself call upon the House to express its de­ now, in a strictly constitutional sire on his request to withdraw the sense, otiose.) The inclusion of any Bill there is an amendment to new language in the Schedule may motion which should be disposed of. 2tto Constitution FEBRUARY 28, Constitution 300 (Arndt) B ill (Anutt) Bill [Mr Deputy-Speaker] (v) to have equal pay for equal There is an amendment by Shri M.C work, Daga to circulate the Bill for eliciting public opinion (vi) to exercise franchise on attain­ ing 18 years of age, and The amendment was put and negativ­ (vn) to bear small arms”. ed Then, in clause 4 I have provided Now, the question is that “That Dr Kami Singh be given “In article 22 of the Constitution,— leave to withdraw his Bill” (a) in clause (3),— The motion was adopted (l) m sub-clause (a), the word ‘or’ shall be omitted, and DR KARNI SINGH I withdraw mv Bill (n) sub-clause (b) shall be omitted, and (b) clauses (4) to (7) shall be 16 24 hrs. omitted ”

CONSTITUTION AMENDMENT BILL These are my amendments to article BILL (Amendment of Articles 19,22 22 regarding preventive detention etc ) B y S h r i A K G o p a l a n Then in clause 5 I have provided MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER We take that up the next Bill The next Bill is by Shri A K Gopalan, further to amend “In article 31 of the Constitution— the Constitution of India (a) for clause ( 1), the follow­ ing clause shall be substituted, SHRI A K GOPALAN (Palghat) namely — I move that the Bill further to amend the Constitution of India be taken into “(1) The right of citizens to consideration their landholdings, handicrafts and small scale industries, hous­ Sir, there are three amendments in es, trade, profession or vocation, my Bill which I am proposing. In implements and other accesso­ Article 19 of the Constitution, in sub­ ries necessary to carry on their clause (f) of Clause (1), after the trade, profession or vocations words “property”, the following words within the limits prescribed by shall be inserted namely, “within such law, and the right of citizens m limits as may be prescribed by law ” their incomes and savings from Secondly, after Article 19 of the Con­ their work, and the income de­ stitution, the following new~'Article rived from the above-mention­ shall be inserted, namely, 19 A ed properties, articles of domes­ tic economy and use and articles “All citizens shall have the right— of personal use and convenience ^jCi) to work and to a living wage as well as the right of citizens after attaining the age of 16 years; to inherit personal property shall be protected by law” , (ii) to have free education upto the Higher Secondary Standard; (b) after clause ( 1), the follow­ ing clause shall be inserted, to have State assistance in namely*—. i of unemployment, old age, sick- and disablement; **(1A) All other property be­ sides that specified ia clause (1 ) (iv) to free medical treatment; o* this article may fee acquired 301 Constitution PHALGUNA 4, 1804 (SAKA) Constitution 302 (Arndt.) mil (Arndt.) Bill by authority of law for public and the right to hear small arms purposes or lor securing jus­ have been included in the list of tice, liberty and equality to all fundamental rights. Provisions of citizens, without paying any article 22 which guarantee protec­ compensation or paying such tion against arrest and detention m amounts as may be fixed by certain cases have been misused so such law or as may be deter­ far. Hence, certain safeguards for mined according to the princi­ the liberty of citizens have been ples laid down in such law for provided for.” . paying such compensation. No such law shall be called in These are the objects of this Consti­ question by any Court includ­ tution (Amendment) Bill. ing the Supreme Court,” ; and

(c) clause (3) shall be omitted.” . I shall first deal with clauses 2 and 5 of the Bill. Amendment to article Then, in clause 6 of my Bill I have 19 is being proposed in clause 2 for provided that m article 31A of the the purpose of conferring upon the •Constitution, the first proviso to clause State the power to amend and pres­ ( 1 ) shall be omitted. cribe the ceiling on the ownership of all classes of property and also for As far as the Statement of Objects the purpose of protecting the right of and Reasons is concerned, it reads the citizens to acquire and dispose of thus: property within the prescribed ceil­ ing. So, the object of this proposal would be clearly understood when “It is necessary to put reasonable it is read along with the amendment restrictions on the right to hold which has been proposed to article property to prevent concentration 31. Articles 31 and 19 must be read of wealth and means of production together, because they are interrelat­ to the common detriment. ed. That has been stated in clause 5 \ Right to work is one of the Direc­ of this amending Bill. Both these are interrelated. We do not favour tive Principles, but does not serve Ihe desired purpose. This Bill pro­ concentration of wealth in the hands of a few individuals. We want all vides that every citizen who is more than sixteen years of age shall have means of production to be owned by the State gradually. We want mono­ the right to work and it shall be polies to be taken over by the State the duty of the State to provide without delay, immediate nationalisa­ subsistence allowance to all citizens tion of key industries and giant en­ who cannot work due to old age, terprises. At the same time, we sickness, disablement or failure on want to protect the rights of owners the part of the State to provide of small and medium size personal yrork. All citizens over the age of properties and also private enterpris­ 18 years shall have the right to es against the encroachment by the Exercise franchise. high-handed andjpower-crazy bureau­ cracy. Article 45 of the Constitution pro­ vides for tree and compulsory edu­ cation for children up to the age We say this because under the exist* of fourteen years. This is one of ing system, more particularly under the Directive Principles of State the present system, whatever power Policy, Just a pious wish. Provi­ is assumed iby the Government is sion has been made in the Bill for bound to be used against the smaller fine education up to Higher Secon­ people and in the Interest of the big* dary Standard. Certain rights like ger ones. The existing cl, I of art Ihe tftfht to free medical treatment 31 says that no person shall be depriv- 303 Constitution FEBRUARY 28, 1978 CxmHitutkm »

Coming to clause 3 of the Bill, I Then, “to exercise franchise on at­ say that socialism and social justice taining 18 years of age.” Then, “to are not one-way traffic. There must bear small arms.” Why I have said be reciprocity. The State ownership that “to bear small arms” is because, of the means o* production is good while the hooligans possess arms the if the right of employment and un­ peaceful, law-abiding citizens are at employment benefits are given. But the mercy of the hooligans. The then if these basic necessities are not peaceful citizens have no arms. Kir- provided by the State, there will be pans are given to the Sikhs, and I State capitalism; that is, bureaucra­ think there is no harm, and there tic capitalism and a new privileged has been no harm till now because class and a more ruthless exploitation every Sikh has a kirpan. No harm and capitalism will come into existen­ has been caused by that. It is not ce. This is why the amendments pro­ difficult for an intending law-breaker posed in sub-clauses (i) to (vi) of to collect arms. If every citizen is clause 3 of my Bill are necessary. armed he could be protected against It can be done by adding a new arti­ the hooligans who possess arms. Only cle, number 19A, as proposed by a Government which distress the peo­ me in clause 3 of my Bill. In clause ple will object to this amendment. So, 3 of my Bill I have said that the I say everyone must be allowed to right is given; (but it is only the right have arms so that those who have no that is given. But as far as the bene­ arms will not suffer. They are people fits are concerned, there is nothing in who collect the arms and fight with the Constitution. Here, it is said: "to them. But others who obey the C on ­ work and to a living wage after at­ stitution do not have the am s be­ taining the age of 16 years ” The cause it is against the Constitution to question is, as far as living wage is possess arms. It is a crime. What 307 Constitution FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Congtitwtkm 308 (Amdt) Bill (Amdt) Btll fShri A K Gopalan] real Bhachan Sangh, the man who had been detained is not the wanted happens, therefore, is that they are person nor is he the person againnt attaccked by others, because they are whom the detention order was passed law-abiding citizens and they obey and so please release that Bhachan the Constitution and the law So, it Singh and take this Bhachan Singh is better that everybody is allowed instead He replied we have al­ to bear small arms ready taken a man and you can re­ lease that man, but we cannot take Clause 4 m my Bill deals with arti­ him instead of that man It is not a cle 24 Preventive detention and de­ question whether a person committed mocracy cannot go togethei Some any crime or he is about to commit a provisions m article 22 were describ­ crime If the officer feels that there ed as black acts by several freedom ib a design to commit crime he can fighters during the British Raj In do that Who decides the design’ my amendment I have said that arti­ It is the Police officer When I loik cle 22 should be so amended that the at the moustache of the Police officer, P D Act may be made applicable only he can very well jay that I have a to enemy aliens and not to Indian design to commit an oftence and so citizens There are other provisions he may say that I should be detained m the Criminal Procedure Code and This i£> against the spirit of nemo other laws foi taking prevention ac­ cracy The Constitution must be tion when the need arises when the changed m -uch a way that the P D Government officers think that a Act may not be m sused It should crime is to be committed for instance not be used to cui tail the privilege there are sections 151 and 155 of the of a man even for one hour Curtail­ Criminal Procedure Code ing the privilege of e\en a single person is ceitamly bad and that In a judgement by the Supreme should not be done So, this n the Court Justice Mahajan said that in obiect It is very simple One no civilised country m the world was thing is m summary the property of there an Act called Preventive Deten­ the small owners and middle people tion Act which look away the right should not be taken away unless of the individual like this without they are given ample compensation giving him an oportiumty It was in and as far as others are concerned my case, Gopalan versus the State of it may be taken and a small compen­ Madras, and it was a dissenting judge­ sation in some cases may be given ment m which he had made this spe­ cific observation The next thing is very important when we are talking of socialism and If we take the history of the P D when we say about the fundamental Act we can see that it was always right But what is to-day in the used against political opponents, it country? Unemployed people are was often misused Innocent peo­ agitated. They say, give us work If ple were arrested We were discus­ you cannot give work (we want to sing the P.D Act last time and we live), some subsistence allowance heard an incident that happened in should be given In other countries, Punjab which clearly showed how it there is unemployment dole. So, if wan misused The Police were you are not able to provide 30b, till given a list of people who were to you are able to provide some job, un­ be taken into custody under P.D Act employment dole must be given. How and there was one Bhachan Singh in to make money, how to get money, is that list The Police rounded, up one another question. A man after 16 Bhachan Singh and he was detained. years of ag*~-educated, uneducated After three months the Police again those people who are able physically came to the jail and said to the JaU to work, they must be given work. Superintended*? we have found the If they cannot be given work, then 300 Constitution PHALGUNA 4* 1894 (SAKA) Constitution 31c (Amdt.) Bill (Arndt.) Bill they must be given some subsistence MR. DEPTY-SPEAKER: Motion allowance. Or, what will they do? moved: You do not allow them to die because “That the Bill further to amend comm.tting suicide is a crime. So, the Constitution of India, be taken you cannot die. And you cannot into consideration.” live too. The law says you cannot die and also you cannot live because MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shti there is nothing to live, there is no B. R. Shukla. work. Fundamental Right under Article 19 is there but 19A also comes. SHRI B. R SHUKLA (Bahraich): It is guaranteed that the man who is Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, while unemployed, till he gets employment, agreeing substantially with the he gets something and he also gets objects and principles which have free medical treatment also. An un- motivated the hon’ble mover to bring emuloyed man, how can he get some this Bill before this Houre, I am medical treatment? He will also afraid to oppose it on other grounds have disease. If fte has no free medi­ cal treatment, what will he do. Un- 16.50 hrs. emoloved man has got sons. For the education of his children, what [S h r i K. N. T e w a r i ; in the Chair]. will he do’ So in this country where unemployment is increasing, So far the Bill deals—firstly with the at least till we are able to change right to property within certain the present form of society, at least limits, secondly, its protection from these things should be done. the arbitrary action of the Executive and thirdly its opposition by the Equal pay for equal work was State under certain c^rcumstancec. there. That is the slogan. But as Our Indian Constitution is already a far a>3 the slogan is concerned, it is very complicated document and the not implemented. So, it must be imple­ interpretation of the various pro­ mented. That is why I have said visions dealing with the fundamen­ ISA—all citizens have got the right tal rights relating to holding of pro­ to work and till they get work, they perty has been differently made by must have the right to get unemploy­ several benches of the Supreme ment dole so that they may live, not Court. Only recently this august that they may become happy, they House adopted the 24th, 25th and 26th may not starve, so this change—19A. Amendments to the Constitution. Amendments have also been made in articles 13, 31 and 368. These Exercise of franchise on attaining amendments are under a process of 18 yean’, of age—agitation has begun judicial determination before the in many States of India and also the Supreme Court. These simple Government has said that they will amendments which were practically consider 18 years of age. They say noncontroversial before this House that is a time when they can decide, have taken more than 2 months for when they can think so this franchise the judges to decide. mu~t be there for those who have attained 18 years of age. My submission is that the proposed amendments to articles 19, 31 and These are the three amendments 38 are already covered by the exist­ that I want to bring. These are ing provisions of the Constitution. very simple amendments and I think For example, it is provided in the I will have the support of all Mem­ Constitution itself that every citiasen bers including the Members of the has a right to hold, acquire and dis­ Ruling Party. I request all Members pose of property. There is another to support these amendments. With provision in the Constitution itself* itoete words. I move* that no person shall be deprived of 311 Constitution FEBRUARY 23, 1973 Constitution (Amdt) Bill < m d tj Bill fShri B R Shukla] bably it will meet the same fate as the settled law was upset in the his pioperty except by authority of Golak Nath's case where the Bench law which provides for payment ol decided m the Golak Nath’s case compensation or for the determina­ that no property can be acquired. tion of compensation and also for Therefore, tjhe Government was a public purpose Three cond tions forced to bring a legislation by which must exist for acauisition of property the uncomfortable position which Firstly, no man can be deprived of developed m the country could be his property merely by an executive set at lest action So, the fear expressed by the hon mover that the small pro­ The fact of the matter is that perty holders should be protected various zamindans and jagirdans from the aibitrary action of the were abolished and they were taken executive is already covered Then, over by the State by passing the it should be for a public puipose Abolition of Zammdari Acts in It means the representatives of the various States, in Uttar Pradesh m country sitting m the legislature Bihar, etc In that judgment Justice are convinced that such legislation £>ubba Rao held that Sh'mkan should be passed for the acquisition Prasad s case had held the field long of property Thirdly, there should be enough and that all the acquisitions compensation The mover wants of all the /am ndar«: previously that there should be a provision for under \arious legislations passed by payment of compensation only with the State Legislatures1 were not m respect to holders of property which accordance with the constitutional is petty and small So far as big provisions and theiefore they ruled monopolists are concerned there that on the riound of rrospective should not be any provision for over rulin? no acquisition of pro­ payment of compensation I submit perty shall be valid So this uas the law is quite elastic and compre­ a judgment which was at variance hensive on this point also, because it with the previous -judgment In is laid down in article 31 itself that order lo set the controversy at rest, the quantum of compensation shall the legislat on was passed that the not be justiciable The courts are Parliament was fully competent to precluded from examining the quan­ enact a legislation for the acquisition tum of compensation This has been of property making a provision for interpreted to mean that where the compensation and that such a pro­ compensation ib wholly illusory and vision of law shall not he inconsis­ only a colourable exercise of the tent with the fundamental r ghts legislative power it shall be struck and that it shall not be a law within down as wholly unconstitutional the meaning of article 13 •On the other hand, if any party who is sought to be deprived of his pro­ So, my submission is that all these perty insists that there should be a points aie fully covered by the exis­ full compensation, meaning money ting provisions of the Constitution as equivalent at the market rate that modified by the Twenty-Fourth, is also ruled out by this article Twenty-Fifth and Twenty-Sixth Con­ stitution amendments which the So, we have got two things, that Parliament has passed the compensation must be provided and that the adequacy of compen­ 17 hrs. sation according to the market rate can also not be insisted upon There­ Now, so far as the amendment to fore, there is ample provision for meet­ article 19A is concerned, that all ing both the objectives which are citizens shall have the right to work sought to be achieved through the and to a hvingr wage after attaining provisions of this Bill If this BUI the age of 16 y^ars, as I have already is accepted toy the House, thin pro­ said, the objectives are very good- 3 1* Constitution PHALGUNA 4, 1894 (SAKA) Constitution 314 (Amdt.) Bill {Amdt.) BUI But the question is: Should we your domestic servant does not get pass a law which would be merely a the same pay which my domestic dead-latter on the statute book and servant gets So, putting a provision which would malv? the position in such a general and wide form ridiculous one? In the Directive would be simply ridiculous. Principles contained in the Consti­ tution, it has been provided that AN HON. MEMBER: Socialist there should be free and compulsory society. primary education. It is a matter SHRI B R. SHUKLA: Socialist beyond controversy that the object- society does not mean that it is some­ tives laid down in the Directive thing airy or vague or it is something Principles have not been achieved nebulous. It must have a correlation even after a lapse of 25 years. with the existing realities prevailing If we have failed in providing edu­ in a particular country. My hon. cation even at the primary stage, do friend may talk about it, but per­ you want that there should be a pro­ chance—it will not, of course, come vision for education upto High School in the near future—if he is saddled and that it should be contained not with the responsibility of governing in the Directive Principles of the the country, probably he will be the Constitution but in the Chapter on first person to scrap many of the pro­ Fundamental Rights? What are Fundamental Rights? If any provi­ visions relating to the Welfare State which are contained now in the Con­ sion is contained as part of Funda­ mental Rights, it means that an ap­ stitution. propriate writ can be issue and can As regards doing away with the be claimed in High Court and Sup­ Preventive Detention provision of the reme Court. Now what would be Constitution, my submission is that consequence if, supposing, a person any law of the land relating to the has not been able to get education punishment of an offender is not upto High School because the State equal to the occasion if it does not has not made a provision for that? provide for detention of persons who Should the parent of that child go believe in subversive activities and to the High Court and Supreme Court disturbance of public tranquility aad and say that his Fundamental Right law and order and against whom to free education upto High School witnesses are not coming forward— has not been complied with and, there­ if, for instance, railway wagons are fore, the State should be directed to burnt in a mass frenzy and peopTe give him scholarship, hostel facilities are not coming forward as witnesses and so on? How ridiculous it would Government is naturally concerned be if this were to happen. Of course that such persons should be kept the objective is very good. under detention, behind the prison Then I come to “equal pay for bars. There are various safeguards equal work.” . See the absurdity and laid down in the Preventive Deten­ hollowness of this, ‘equal pay for tion law itself. For example, we have equal work*. Work and pay are regu­ passed the Maintenance of Internal lated on the basis of contract or on Security Act. There are ample safe­ the basis of legislation. So far a a guards against misuse of power, factory workers are concerned, so fsi against the erratic action of the exe­ as mill workers are concerned, so far cutive You know that the cult of as employees of the Government are bomb and violence practised under concerned, they are regulated by the coalition Government in which rules made under certain legislation, the Marxists had a very large share.. and if any law snakes any distinction In pay for equal work, it shall be SHRI MANORANJAN HAZRA struck down as unconstitutional. So (Arambagh): Sir, 1 rise on a point tar as contract labour is concerned, of order. My submission is this, (Amdt.) Bill [Shri Manoranjan Hazra]

Ganesh Ghosh, a former Member oi not be misused. So, I want to quote this House took part in Chittagong the judgment itself. armoury raid case in 1930. But he was arrested under the P. D. Act in MR. CHAIRMAN: You have got 1953, in which the ground of deten­ right of reply. At that time you can tion was that he had taken part in quote that. Chittagong armoury case. They thought they were ample reasons to SHRI A. K. GOPALAN: Before believe that he sholild be arrested and that so many of our hon. Members detained—this was the order of the would speak, would offer their points authorities.. of view. This is what the Supreme Court Judge has said. I quote his SHRI B. R. SHUKLA: This is no very w ord.... point of order; only unwarranted interruption. MR. CHAIRMAN: Not now ....

SHRI M. C. DAGA (Pali): It is no SHRI A. K. GOPALAN: Sir, this is point of order. just 10 sentences only...... >

MR. CHAIRMAN: It is not a point MR. CHAIRMAN: Not now. Please of order. quote it at the time of your reply.

Mr. Shukla, please conclude. Now, Shri Sarjoo Pandey.

SHRI B. R. SHUKLA: Sir, those who still have pinned their faith fasr ifhTFR' aft TOT ^ thinking that revolution would come apTcTT sr*fr f t % a»f?r out of the barrel of the gun can be f, 1 dealt with effectively only by retain­ afto STTTO 9pR-3ft*ffcrT|$ f ing in the statute-book a provision for ^ fa UT$ sflgf preventive detention' Security was $ w tit anrentf brought about in that State only be­ cause of the judicious use of the pro­ tarr siWt 1 % mwr f fa *rr visions of the Maintenance of Internal mm %t fafrg t o t $ 1 tftsfr Security Act. My submission is that all these provisions are uncalled for, tftarTw « F t ^ ^ f a ^ ^ r r ^ ^ W T ^ T * r they are unnecessary, because some I I W F T ^t ^ fftcTT | r of them are already contained in the apt ^sfNr wxi % wrftwt % t o Constitution and their addition to the Constitution will make our Constitu­ % fatr t i t * tit «rr i tion cumbersome and would only lead to legal and constitutional diffi­ $*rr* ton ir w t fr r culties. Thank you. w $ w q «nrr |r fa i9*ff SHRI A, K. GOPALAN: I just ftmr jari^ sftr 19^ w $ want to quote a few sentences from tgtct ’sn# f mfa anw ^ t the Judgment, because this is im­ portant. $t sir i MR. CHAIRMAN: You have got a right ol reply. At that time you may w rr wi^st f 1 kindly say that. # t t m * t SHRI A. K GOPALAN: '' i wint to $ ftc;- jiiti|pi^_' put it coiTeotly, because words may 3 17 Constitution PHALGUNA 4 1894 (SAKA) Constitution 318 (Amdt) Bill (Amdt.) Bill fa TZTR^fr STCRTTO t I # *r*rSTcTT f. % SWR” WT SW M y % *r*% fWT tit mm % fspT ^r*rFT t it *rra apt w r s u o t t f t i srre*rft ?rfwR- n ^ th ^ ^ fq- «pt| l^rcr^r *rt ^ct arwqr *FT ^Tft PKT ^rf?rr | ‘rnr f ?rt ^ rn ip ft ^t?stt ?ra> ^ fwerr rrsp ^ p - % ^ % -y^T it *reft tit ^tpt «pt ®rnr ^ t ir?kri ^ «rr % %fzjrg g-r?r ?nrr «m?r*T T&ft t 1 w *t wwr f n- 1 1 % «ftJ ’SRT nfkf^TT f t stpt *ppt ^ *r% t i s?t * sta r*T r-p- fPTP- f^ n r 2f7T I I If srrr I \ * Tartar % f^swr%ft spt httft f*pr % t ?rgt f^nn- t o t f> 1 *ft % *:f£ nTTm ?Tgt fRJ ^rf^TT I frnr *>?rr t fa mrnm-iY w r e het^ztt fr?^TTOr sft ?ra«rf % ^ f r m t ^rt + fFT W W W t it STFT ^f?TT I — f% ^ me?; tit ^ r f^rrsY f 1 *rtr ^ f t rf^i firr^ *t *t5t ^ ^ |, ?rnr sft^T ^r?ft % f^rrr st^p t $? ttVt »rfort fHT? ^ s: ^ ^ ? ?*rr i %$ ^ farrr w w \ ^IcfT SfTf frt *P»# % ?T^t 3RTT T^t % a.^t jii ^ i^ unff ^t errato Pwict ^ %f^Fr ^ R t t t ’e g^rrfr gtTr ^rff^ 1 % W5% t 3ft 3% % W R - % TROT farcnr srrrrr ?nft sflT tt% | i ss srft ?f4*TTd ^ qr -J^r# ^ f«T -IT farfer | 1 3 *nrsf?rr f? far sft g fc ^ gftpTF ft^rt 5rrf%5PT3T f%«TT WT t for IfFR ^»3nfV t wt ^?T?rFff t> *'V* w r « T ^ ?S3f rHF STSftTf % f%rr jjq?T fjRSTT ^ Tr-gt ir q.^^Rr t ^rr ’RTffRW Sfrt JT R %TT ^Tf^> I ^ ??«Fcft | THT ^ft VTTIT eft 1'T5FT 'ti'& *ft •Ti^t ^ ^Tlf 11 ^r% fwn; ffw n ^tsq^rr TO 2TT *T ITT# I SIT^'ff’Y J^"'5T ?TP ^ t I i *n«T% % *ii rfT ^ »Ft nit Wf ? w r ^t 5Rt «prt n?pjMf H?fr ^ rr i tmx *tpt 3rm ?ft fw f^ fsfsR ?rrwt f w oTTtnrr 1 ?tr % w* ^ sf*t 3ftfw ?r^RT =^Tf^ I ^TT^ flf^SnRT ^ttt ^rspt ’rt^t * r ^ ^ 1 ’^n r %fe?TR5 t ^ ft WTCPTT eft ^ F t Sf*TT I ?jt ?rf^siFr *r ?rrr mP ^ - t »ft

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#*r sr^TT *tt swart t 1 t i r ^ ^renra ®r t ^ fir vrir ^ s jr w r ^ I fcnrrc ^ ^ f t % ?rrT rfr v r ^ i ^ srfirr I ftr *rr«r art I ’Frft r r f w p vf frit Tr T«r fsrfK Tfn ’fl i T n f t ^ r ^ r t T t i m ^rrar £ i ^ frtcnrr t t *tr?»r 1 *rf?ram *t ff? *f?t *tm f f»p $r wr^ft SHRI B V NAIK CKaanara) A spt stcrV ftr**r sft 'pr *ffar ftflrr ^ u v thoughtful Bill has been brought ■srrt^rr i ^rr snrrrm Jorward by Snu A K Gopalan What I feel 111 regard to his veiy thought fl r f t jtt 551% t ^ t t *t ? w r ful discourse on propert> is that we i?m ferr | srfa^r hd\t to make a distinction between fTTTftrat Tt w ^ T ftsRT f fa tlu n^M to propett\ which has been is nincd in aiticle 31 and 31A of «l WTT§ ? 3T I falfjf fzfrn* ui Constitution and tht right to *T r t f ^7T t I ntlihood It is too late in the da> > question -tht vu&dom of the Con- S H F- ft n *r ?PTf^H ?T jffiTT t ?n stituti j harm is Bu+ m the Con- •3WT f ^ r w r f»r?TT ^n^rr $ *fP itution whilt j^ioviding fot ccitan i w t sfcr 3 irnr f^zrr 3rt?rr ? i ptotectums w<» ha\e tued to givt urottction to tlu right to property ?rfairrc ft *rr*R T w fcf t f^h vihich as m hon friend Shri B R ■airft ^ I Shuk'a his s«id )ust now has now been ubstantidlly cuiumi»cnbed but snref *r *t$s *rr *rfM I would make a distinction here by 3*?Tt fn ^T »rrf £ I *ftr 5T luo mg a specific mbtdnce In arti- k ilA it has been ver> clearly laid H fft ?*r *r *rrr arrrrir i m « r f $ *?t«? lown that 110 piopertj shall be com *tfw *V %■ jtpt *t I ulsonl\ uquired 01 1 equisitioned ifTTT f %ttT SpTRn 3imT f f * 3RTT b ivc foi a publu purpose Public 3 ui pom is a \pi y substantial clause w «t<5*fi sit ft fr *n*rfar nr strt in this diticlc But sometimev we > y?r t ? t *r ^nrr f t t &m m *> stf instances when then is <• tr » ■5rr «t w rr *rrr *t *j?trt stf'st \estv of this phxast public jmipose ? t »*r «ft »=it wnr *rrc% f i < x m Foi tht purpose of diversion I shall quote a single instance here ■sft * ^ which cannot be compared with other •t fec^r «rnr»Tlrfa nstcmct * In the StaU of M\ sore for » private fiim belonging to one of the ^ f 55TI ^VR monopo’v *houses private property of ^ frgrr vRwarfff^ small peasants to the extent of 2500 ursftft i acre* that i‘ pm tte property of small peasants most of whom are Hari}ans ^*n strr f^rr *rfp or other backward classes is being ac­ n «n% t?*rr ftrrr ^ ^rwrf?? st^ quired not directly by the monopoly in»T*FfT I wH ««rffl T«»! ^Rr house but by u diabolical—if I may uie that ha s>h word—organisation set ^ fnuT frftnm n f « H^frspr up by the tx-Goveroment of Mysore ^ frt- ^r * wlf called the Mysore Industrial Amis 34£ Constitution PHALGUNA 4 1694 (SAKA) Constitution 322 (Amdt) Bill (Amdt.) Bill Development Corporation. This cor­ SHRI B. V NAIK- Thank you, Sir, poration is supposed to provide land for this. lor the purpose of industrial develop­ ment. This land for the purpose of In legard to the other provision* industrial development is not for the I hat have been made, I would like to purpose of setting up of a factory or ask the Mover, a simple question. As factory primises or quarters ol' the already stated by Shri B. R. Shukla, staff working there, but this corpora­ the cos* of free compulsory primary tion is today trying to acquire padd.\ education, as was mentioned by th» land belonging to cultivators number­ ex-Mmister of Education, is of the ing about 12,500 people and this paddy order of Rs,. 800—900 crores. I also land on which thc livelihood of the*e made a proposal to tfne Ministry of small peasants and these pooi people Social Welfare at the Centre regarding used to depend is to be converted into the provision of old age pension. Such salt land for the production of law a pension provided at a minimal cost materials for caustic soda or soda ash at the rate of Rs. 30 per month to ali plant. Here, legally speaking, nobody beyond the age of 60, numbering 31 is wrong I do not blame the present milhon people. hke in most of tht Government of Mysore for this, be­ democratic socialist countries where cause- this has been a legacy of the they spend in terms of hundreds of past and the formei Government of c-rores of dollars or equivalent sums, Mysore is not existing The Govern­ will cost us to the tune of Rs. 900 ment of Mysore has been a party to <-rores, if not Rs. 1,000 crores. As long acquiring the land. and they are as the costg involved in the provision doing what is called legally as a per­ ot such disability pension or ottier fect crime, and it i? a crime against allowance arc of this magnitude in tht the common people These people are system we are living in, I think it i* not in a position to go to the judiciary impracticable, but still so long as there which is having its own costs involved is a level of benevolence in a socialist in trying to dispense justice In the socicty -it is not that a country will circumstances I feel tfhat while we nave to reach a particular level of may not do the hair-splitting on the affluence to be able to provide certain question of property, which as nn T>«nevoent measures, for a poor coun- hon. friend Shri B. R. Shukla ha- iry like ours we have got poor social just now said, has been adequately tpformp and a poor social security entailed, there is need for us to see system in a rmmtry like ours where that property mean? the livelihood we arc going to provide about a person---- Rs 51,650 crores for the next Five ' Yea: Pi on, an outlay of about Rs. 1,000 MR. CHAIRMAN. Now, tfne hoi' i-i ores pei annum for the poor, old and Member should try to conclude. disabled, which comes to Rs. 5,000 SHRI B. V. NAIK; I have hardly ci ores in fhe course of five year?, is a started my speech... welcome measure and desei ves sup­ MR. CHAIRMAN: Only 2 hours port have been allotted for this Bill, if the Leaving niv options open regarding hon, Member is going to take more the rest of the suggestion* made bv time, I do not think that we shall bo Shri Gopalan. I conclude. ablg to finish this Bill. ♦SHRI J- MATH A GOWDER (Nil- SHRI B. V. NAIK: It is my sub­ mns) Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would like mission tfoat some of the facts are to express my views on The Constitut­ unpleasant— ion (Amendment) Bill which has MR. CHAIRMAN: He may take one been moved by mv hon. friend. Shri or two more minute* and then finish. A. K. Gopalan. •The original speech was delivered m Tamil. 323 Constitution FEBRUAif/ 23, 1973 Constitution (Amdt.) Bill (Amdt) Bill LShri J. Math a Gowderj assessees has gone up by four times, At the very outset, I would like to how could it happen tnat the tax point out that tms Bill is not only to collected irom them has gone up by be welcomed by the entire House but only two times? This shows that there also to be adopted by the House as is something basically wrong either it is an important progressive measure. with the law or with its implementa­ Shri Gopalan through this Bill has tion. The Government should exa­ sought to amend the Article 19 of the mine what is wrong and how it has Constitution by stating that the people happened that the collection of wealth of the country^jsJhouid own property tax has not kept up with the increase within such limits a-s may be prescrib­ in the number of assessees. ed -by law. Within the legal limits From what I have slated above, it prescribed by the State a citizen of is clear that l‘he affluent sections oi the country is allowed to own pro­ our society are able to exploit the perty. In this connection, I would like to refer to a document circulated loopholes in the law and enrich them­ selves at the cost of the common by the Planning Commission last people. I make bold to say that this year. It was mentioned in that docu­ ment that from families owning more has prompted Shri Gopalan to propose than "20 acres of land 440 lakh acres the insertion of a new article to Article 19 which would give to all the . of surplus land could be acquired and citizens of our country the fundamen­ distributed to 270 lakhs of landless tal right to work and to a living wage families. It had also been pointed out after attaining the age of 16 years, to in the same document that it was have free education upto the Highei doubtful whether 44 lakh acres of Ssecondary standard, to have State surplus land would have been ac­ assistance in cases of unemployment, quired from these people after implementing the Land Ceiling Acts old age, sickness and disablement, to free 'medical treatment, and to have by the State Governments throughout equal pay for equal work. I want to the country. I would like to know where remaining-’ 400 lakh acres know what is wrong in asking that the basic requirements of the people of surplus land have gone. Though should become tlhe fundamental rights zamindari has been abolished through­ out the country, I am sure that the enshrined in the Constitution. rich landlords, who are patronised by It may be that the Congress Party the ruling party because it seeks their continues to rule the country for some support in more ways than one, have more decades. If the Congress Gov­ successfully circumvented the provi­ ernment cannot create sufficient job sions of the ceiling laws and appro­ opportunities for the growing number priated to themselves and their fami­ of young men attaining the age of 16, lies all the available surplus land I feel it will be better if the Govern­ Without the connivance of the ruling ment through legislation and other party it would not be so easy for them m u. is prevent child-birtlh in the to evade the law. I would like to country. I doubt very much Whether know how many such people are in the Government will ever be ahle to the ruling party itself. ensure work to all the young men attaining the age of 16. In these cir­ I would refer to another important cumstances, it is imperative that the point. During the past eight years right to work becomes a fundamental the number of wealth-tax assessees right in the Constitution. has gone up from 30,800 to 1,20„000 B*utv during the same period, th«t Though it is specifically stipulated wealth tax collected from them has in the Directive Principles of State gone up from Rs. 8.26 crores to 15.62 policy that education will be free and crores only- When the number of compulsory upto the age ot-14, even 325 Constitution PHALGUNA 4, 1894 {SAKA) Constitution iAmdt.) Bill (Amdt.) ^ill aiier two decades of independence it rtiling party in tne States for maicing remains a long crierished d^eam. I e^.aja.ion free upto higher secondary wonder what is going' to be the future stage. of our country when young people without education take to roads. How The ruling paity in the Centre can they think of becoming useful citi­ sweais by the navne ot Socialism. If zens of the nation, w^hen tihey are it couia not esiaoiisn an egalitarian denied the basic right of education? society in the country, I tliiiik it What is the use of such a Govern­ snoula aerive inspiration from its new ment? I do not know how many more found auy, tne C.P.I. io r 'Za years years the Goverrmient will take to the rujing party is talliing about so­ declare that within a set period th& cialism and X do not know for how basic requirements of the common many years more it will continue to people will be met. The Governmeni profes^ their loVg for socialism without frequently talk about tte completior taking any concrete steps to acitieving of four Five Year Plans and they are the oijj active. l was a Congress Party also ;^'orking on the details of the memoci' for 30 long years. I was for Fifth Five Year Flan. In the Fourth ten years a Congress M.L..A. in the Five Year Plan period, a new slogan ■tamil Nadu Assembly. I had the of GARIBI HATAO has become tha opportunity of working as the District main plank of the ruling party. By Congress Committee President and I merely proclaiming GARIBI HATAO, was also a Member of the Working the Government are not going eradi­ Committee of the Pradesh Congress. I cate poverty. While ‘HATAO’ remains know lully weil how the Congress an empty word, poverty in the country Party used to work. During the Elec­ is merrily perpetuated. It seems to be tions, the Congress Party would not difficult for the Government even to bat its eye-lids in making tall promises frame a time-bound programme for to be ilouted after winning the Elec­ eradicating poverty in the country. tions. The Congress Party had no compunction in practising deception on If I refer to t'he achievement Oi the gullible people of our country. I Tamil Nadu Government in the field was also unfortunately a party to such of education, the Members opposite frauds on the people when I was a may fret and fuine in jeolousy. But Member of the Congress Party. the fact of achievement remains, that there is free education upto P.U.C. level in Tamil Nadu w’hich is ruled by 25 years after our independence and my party, the Dravida Munnetra after celebrating tlie Silver Jubilee of Kazhagam. In the other States w^here our Independence, it is strange that a the Congress Party is in power^ edu­ National Programme for Minimum cation ig 'not free upto tine higher Needs with an outlay of Rs. 3300 crores secondary stage. I think the Congress. has been incorporated in the Approach Governments in other States cannot to the Fifth Five Year Plan. What and will not emulate the example of the ruling party could not achieve in the only Opposition Party that is in two and half decades they want to power in Tamil Nadu i do not under­ achieve in five years! This itself is a stand w h y there should be a'n Educa­ clear indication t*hat the ruling party tion Ministry in the Centre which had been deceiving the people of our does not hesitate to squander crores of country for more than 25 years. When rupees on education when it cannot one looks at the multitude of problems ensure free education upto higher being faced by the peopel of coimtry, secondary stage in all the States where this National Programme for Minimum the Congress Party is in power. It is Needs will also be a drop in the ocean. inexplicable to me why the Education When the Governme'nt talk about im­ Minister in the Centre is not advising plementing this programme in five his oWn counterparts belonging to the years, it is just like a lame man 3*7 Constitution FEBRUARY 33, 1978 Constitution (Amdt) Bill (Amdt) Mill [Shri J Math* Gowder] second-line defence of our country m desiring the honey from the top of a emergencies and they must be trained tree i would like to warn tlnat it is tn the handling of arms That would not wise to deceive the people too be possible only when they have the long The Government should do right to possess arms I reauest that something constructive to mitigate the the Government should not hesitate to miseries of the people make thl* also a fundamental nght

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