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Vol. 811 Tuesday No. 209 23 March 2021 PARLIAMENTARYDEBATES (HANSARD) HOUSE OF LORDS OFFICIAL REPORT ORDEROFBUSINESS Questions Folic Acid.......................................................................................................................717 Youth Justice System......................................................................................................721 Social Media: Offensive Material ...................................................................................724 Audit and Corporate Governance ..................................................................................727 Human Rights Update Statement........................................................................................................................731 Trade Bill Commons Reason............................................................................................................744 Registration of Marriages Regulations 2021 Motion to Approve ..........................................................................................................767 Extradition Act 2003 (Codes of Practice and Transit Code of Practice) Order 2021 Motion to Approve ..........................................................................................................776 Renewables Obligation (Amendment) Order 2021 Motion to Approve ..........................................................................................................785 Integrated Review: Defence Command Paper Statement .......................................................................................................................797 Lords wishing to be supplied with these Daily Reports should give notice to this effect to the Printed Paper Office. 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The following abbreviations are used to show a Member’s party affiliation: Abbreviation Party/Group CB Cross Bench Con Conservative DUP Democratic Unionist Party GP Green Party Ind Lab Independent Labour Ind LD Independent Liberal Democrat Ind SD Independent Social Democrat Ind UU Independent Ulster Unionist Lab Labour Lab Co-op Labour and Co-operative Party LD Liberal Democrat LD Ind Liberal Democrat Independent Non-afl Non-affiliated PC Plaid Cymru UKIP UK Independence Party UUP Ulster Unionist Party No party affiliation is given for Members serving the House in a formal capacity, the Lords spiritual, Members on leave of absence or Members who are otherwise disqualified from sitting in the House. © Parliamentary Copyright House of Lords 2021, this publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 717 Arrangement of Business [23 MARCH 2021] Folic Acid 718 House of Lords Lord Bethell (Con): My Lords, I pay tribute to both the stamina and the passion with which the noble Tuesday 23 March 2021 Lord puts his case. He puts it extremely persuasively. We have worked hard to engage with policymakers on The House met in a hybrid proceeding. this, meeting mill owners, including artisanal mill owners, and those who are engaged in the supply of food. The Noon supply of food has been a difficult area in the last year. It is difficult to lay this extra burden on the trade. It is A minute’s silence was observed in memory of those who extremely open to the option and we remain optimistic have died and those who have been bereaved as a result that this is a route we can walk down. There has simply of coronavirus. not been an opportunity to make that commitment as yet, but I will update the House as soon as I possibly can. Prayers—read by the Lord Bishop of Newcastle. Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Lab) [V]: My Lords, Arrangement of Business yesterday, the Minister said that the health of the Announcement nation had to change emphatically. The recent NHS White Paper, to which my noble friend Lord Rooker 12.08 pm referred, actually promised a more direct government role in improving people’s health. For instance, as The Lord Speaker (Lord Fowler): My Lords,the Hybrid president of the British Fluoridation Society, I was Sitting of the House will now begin. Some Members are delighted that the Government are now committed to here in the Chamber, others are participating remotely, fluoridating water supplies. Given that, would it not but all Members will be treated equally. be a very important indicator if the Government were Oral Questions will now commence. I ask that those to announce very shortly that they are going to go asking supplementary questions keep them short and ahead with this? confined to two points, and that Ministers’ replies are also brief. Lord Bethell (Con): My Lords, the noble Lord blows my own words in my face very effectively indeed. He is Folic Acid entirely right—we are committed to preventive medicine Question in the round. Fluoridation is one graphic example of that and the use of folic acid to address neural tube 12.09 pm defects is another good example. That is why we did Asked by Lord Rooker the consultation in 2019 and are considering the responses, and it is why I have made the commitment to return to To ask Her Majesty’s Government, further to the House once we are able to give an update. the reply from Lord Bethell on 3 September 2020 (HL Deb, cols 444–5), whether they have reached a Lord Northbrook (Con) [V]: My Lords, while I wholly conclusion on the findings of their consultation on support measures for larger commercial millers to the proposal to add folic acid to flour which closed minimise the risks associated with folic acid deficiency on 9 September 2019. in vulnerable groups in society,I ask that the Government exempt smaller, traditional artisan mills from having TheParliamentaryUnder-Secretaryof State,Department to have to mix folate into flour. These mills represent only of Health and Social Care (Lord Bethell) (Con): My 0.1% of flour production and it would be prohibitively Lords, I pay tribute to the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, expensive for them to purchase the necessary machinery for his stamina on this important issue. Since the and to adapt what are often listed buildings for this change. consultation on folic acid in flour closed, there has Also, some customers deliberately seek out traditional been considerable progress on this policy work, although flour, free from additives. this has been hampered by Covid. I commit to bringing an update to the House as soon as I reasonably can. Lord Bethell (Con): My noble friend makes the case Lord Rooker (Lab) [V]: I thank the Minister for his extremely well. I reassure him that, in February 2020, Answer but, as he will expect, it is not good enough. officials from the DHSC and Defra met representatives Notwithstanding the Covid pressure on the health from the Society for the Protection of Ancient Buildings’ department, it found time and resources to produce an Mills Section and the Traditional Cornmillers Guild NHS reform White Paper,so the priority was organisation, and visited windmills and watermills to understand at not preventive health. Since the Minister answered the first hand the practicalities around fortification for previous Question on this in September, on average those premises. The commitments made on those visits there will have been 500 pregnancies affected by neural will, I think, build a policy that takes into account the tube defects, resulting in more than 400 terminations, very special needs of those important artisanal trades. and around 80 live births of babies with a lifelong disability. Fortification can cut these figures by up Baroness Jolly (LD) [V]: My Lords, I commend the to 50%. My last question is: how will Ministers face noble Lord, Lord Rooker, for his tenacity on this the Daily Mail, which for 15 years has supported the issue, and fail to understand why successive Governments scientists advising that this policy be adopted? I shall have not recommended the addition of folic acid to be back next month, I give notice. flour,as well as fluoride to water,following many western 719 Folic Acid [LORDS] Folic Acid 720 [BARONESS JOLLY] and women under 20. Can the Minister tell the House Governments. For those who live on junk food, folate what actions have been taken? What measurable impact deficiency can turn into a serious disorder and, if left has awareness raising had among these at-risk groups unchecked,canbefatal.Inaddition,thepossibledamaging and on ensuring that women whose pregnancies are effects to the foetus during pregnancy make this a unplanned—as we have heard—are not missing out no-brainer. The consultation closed 18 months ago, so on these vital nutrients in the early stages of their when will the Minister bring the update to the House? pregnancy? Lord Bethell (Con): The noble Baroness puts the Lord Bethell (Con): I am grateful to the noble Baroness case well. It is an issue that I feel personally committed for reminding me of my words on that matter. I will to; a cousin of mine was born with a neural tube defect endeavour to find