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mi.Ds "bill to the Committee on Interstate :mil .Foreign Com- Also, ·:peti_iion of Pennsj1v::rnin Stat~ R u_ rnti_o:n of Labo:, -~- meree. ' ~esting agru.nst jp~ge at the Cummms btll w1~ll the antistrike Also, petition of Alabama State ¥ederation of Lab?!', opposing clause; to t.h~ Committee on I~terstate aml For~1gn Comm~ce. the ·Cummins bill the Esch-Pomerene bill .and urgmg support Also, peb:hon of ·Pennsylvamn State Federation of Lal>or, pro­ of the Sims ·bill, No. 10367; to th-e Committee on .Interstate and · testing ag~inst the arr:st of Hindus a?min,r to tJ~is eotmtry; to Foreign Commeree. . the Comnnttee on Intel state and Fore.1gn GonDllel ce. A1so, petition ·of Metal Polisher ' Local Union No. G, of Chi- cago, IlL, m·ging Congress io grant a complete amnesty . to all political ami indu trial prisoners convicted under the espiOnage act and the repeal of all such laws a.s interfere with the moral SENATE. exercise of the American liberties guaranteed under the Con­ stitution; to til" Committee on the Judiciary . TUESD1\Y, December fJ, 1910. .Also, petition of Hebrew · eterans of the Wars of the Repub­ lic, condemning the atrocities inflicted on the Jewi-sh peoples jn The Cha:p}ain, lllev. •Forrest :J. Prettyma11, D. D., offered the Ukraine ; to the Committee ·on Foreign Affairs. following 1Jl'flYer : Also, l}etition of members of the Tara Club~ of Brooklyn, N. Y., Almighty God, Thy servants ba:ve been called t-ogether in the congratulming the on its action with the Senate to give dh·ection to the public policy of this great Nation. peace treo:ty, ,becal.J:Se it 'tends to guarantee-the territor~l integ­ The prob1ems that confront us chaTienge the wisest statesman­ rity to Great .Brit .in at the ~se of Americn's ove.re~gnty; to ship of all the ages. · The world is in the remaking. 'The forces the Committee on Foreign Affairs. of civilization lie :plastic in our hands. We pau e at the begin­ AI o, petition of citizens of the Commonwealth of Massachu­ ning of the great work committed to our hand · to in;-oke the set a sembled in Tremont Temple and Fanenil Hall, Boston, divine blessing. Lord God of Hosts, be witll us yet, lest we for­ on armistice day, No-vember ll, 19-19, urging relief to the :Suffer- get ; lest we forget. May wis<1om preside over our couu<=;iL~. . ing pe-qples of Uu Ria ; to 'the Committee on Foreign .Affairs. , l\lay brotherly love prentil. May tbe unity of purpose and sputt l\1, o,a>ctition of ,the real estate board af New Yor~ City, urg- of this lbady be to us the ·prophecy of the successful issue of .our ing -support of .House bill 8080; to the Committee on Ways and 1 great spiritual enterprise. ..For Christ's sake. Amen. Means. OsCAR W. UNDERWOOD, a Senator :fron1 the State of Alabama; ..Also. !petition of.Federal Retirement A ociation ?f. New York DATID .I. W ..USE, a Senator from rfhe State of Ma s.a.chusetts; City, urging the -pas. a,.,.e -of the Lehlbaeh bill, .Pronding :for -the JoSIAH 0. ·waLcoTT, a Senator :from the State of Delaware; LEE retirement of superannuated Federal emplqyees; to the Com­ S. Ov.lm:M.A~ a Sen~ tor ftom the State of North Carolina; Jas:N mittee on Reform in the Ci\il SerYice. W.:.AI:I:ER S:m.nr, a Senator from "tbe State of ; and .A1so petition of Adolph Lewi:sohn, of New York City., m:ging .A.T.m:J:IT R. F.n.r:r., a .senator :from the State of ~ew .Mexico, a.p­ penreport 11PIDl alle~ed numero~s acts of VJo~encE; by THE WmTE HousE, private rruard.s and -aunmen ar;run t coal mmers and the1r WIVes TV asllington, December 1, 1919. and chil>::>dr~n; also ' lli~ -denial cr.f .civil_ and industrial rjgh~ to the emu miners by coal OIJerators 1ll thl fteld ; to the Comnnttee GENTI..EXEN : The President has asked me to thank yon for on Mines and 1\Iin.ing. the court y of your lletter ().f Deeember 1, notifying him that is Also, -petition of Brotherhood of ll~lway Carmen of ~eri_ca, a quorum of eaeh House assembled and that Congress is at Portal, :N. Dak., il.'Otesting agamst propOl ed legu;lation ready to receive any eommnnication which he 1Illly be pleaseti to make. The President will have pleasm·e in ending a mes­ against strikes, declaring that "or~aniz~? Iaoor r_efuses to. go sage in writing to the Congress to-morrow, Decem})er 2. back to the dn:ys of involuntary serntude, and m·g:mg reten~on for at least two more years of Government control, asserting Sincerely, yonr , JOSEPH 'TRllULTY, that " ·prh·a:te corporations could not l'lm tl1e ·r?ads 1'01·. one cent P. cheaper ll.nd in fact we know that corporation officul.ls to a Hoa H. c. L

The credentials were read and ordered to be plaeed on file, :uJ 1921. The Congress might wcll consider whether the .hlgher follows: rates of income and profits taxes can in peace times be. effectively CoMMONWEALTH OF VmoiNIA._, producth·e of revenue, and whether they may not, on the con­ E(l)ecutive Department. trary,. be destructive of business acti\Tj_ty :nnd productive of waste !l'o the President of the Senate of tlt.e UnUea States: nnd inefficiency. There is a point at which in peace times high This is to certify that pursuant to the power vested in me by the Constitution of the United States and the laws of the State of Virginia rates of income and profits taxes discourage en&gy1 remove the I, 'WestmGrcland Davis, th~ governor ~f the State of Virglnia,, ~o incentive to new enterprise, encourage extravagant expenditures hereby appoint C.&RT!lR f the public interest MESSAGE OF ·THE PRESIDENT. in the light of utterly changed conditions. Bef-ore the war :Mr. Shark-ey, -one of the secretaries of the President of the Ameriea was heavily the debtor ·of the rest of the world and United States, appeared and said : the interest payments .she had to make to foreign countries -on Mr. President, the President -of the United States directs me to American securities held abroad, the expenditures -of .A..merica.n deliver to the Senate a message in writing. tra\eler.s abroad and the ocean .freight charges she had to pay The messag-e was received by tke Secretary of the Senate and to others, about balanced the value of her pre-war fav-orabl-e hand-ed to the Vice President. balance of trade. During the war America's exports haYe been The VICE PRESIDENT. The Chair lays befor-e the Senate greatly stimulated, and increased prices have increased their the following message from the President of th-e United Stntes. value. On the other hand, .she has plll'chased a large proportion The Assistant Secretary (Heru'Y M. Rose) read the message, of the American securities previously held abroad, has loaned as follows: some $9,000,000,000 to foreign governments, and has built her own ships. Our favorable balance of trnde has thus been greatly To the Senate and House -of Representatixes: increased nnd Europe has been d-eprived of the means of meet­ I sincerely regret that I .cannot be present at the opening of ing it heretofore existing. Eur-ope ca.n have only three ways of this session ()f the Congress. I am thus prevented from present­ meeting the favorable balance Qf trade in pea-ce times: by im­ ing in as direct a way as I could wish the many questions that ports into thls country 'Of gold -or --of goods, Qr by establishing are pressing for solution :at tllis time. Happily, I have had th-e n'ew credits. Europe is in no position at the present time to ship advantage tOf the advice of the heads of the several executive golcl to us nor could we contemplate large further imports of departments who have kept in close touch with affairs in their gold into this country wtthGut concern. The time has nearly detail and whose thoughtful recommendations I earnestly second. passed for international governmental loans nnd it will take In the matter of th-e railroads and t:h.e readjustment of their time to devel-op in this connb·y a. market for foreign securities. affairs growing (}Ut of federal controt, I shall take the liberty .Anything~ therefore, which would tend to prev-ent :foreign m the war which we should m-eet in the come and lll'Ofits taxes has become an immediate necessity. These most liberal spirit. It is n matter of recognition :and relief ~l taxes performed indispensable service -during the war. They our soldiers. I can do no better than to quote from my last must, however, be simplified, not only to save the taxpayer in­ message urging this "'ery action: convenience and expense, but in order that his liability may be "We must see to it that our returning oldiers are assisted in made certain nnd definite. every practicable way to find the places for which they n.re 'Vith referent'e to the details of the Revenue Law, the Secre­ fittro in the daily work of the countxy.. This can be done by de­ tary of the Treasury and the Commissioner of Internal Revenue vel{)ping and maintaining upon an adequate scale the admirable will lay before you for your consideration certain amendments (}rga.nizatission. The remedy for these things must 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECOBD-_SENATE. 31 not be negative in character. It must be constructive. It must after all propels the machinery of the world and is the great comprehend the general interest. The real antidote for the dynamic force that lies back of all indu,stry and -progress. unrest which manifests itself is not suppression, but a deep cou­ Return to the old standards of wage and industry "in employment siueration of the wrongs that beset our national life and the is unthinkable. The terrible tragedy of war which has just application of a remedy. ended and which has brought the world to the verge of chaos Congress has already shown its willingness to deal "With -these and disaster would be in vain if there should ensue a return industrial wrongs by establishing the eight-hour day as the to the conditions of the past. Europe itself, whence has come standard in every field of labor. It has sought to find a way to the unrest which now holds the world at bay, is an example of pre\ent child labor. It has served the whole country by lead­ standpatism in these yital human matters which .America ing the way in developing the means of preserving and safe­ might well accept as an example, not to be followed but studi­ guarding lives and health in dungerous industries. It must ously to be avoided. Europe made labor the differential and now help. in the difficult task of finding a method that will the price of it all is enmity und antagonism and prost~ated bring about a genuine democratization of industry, based upon industry. The Iight of labor to live in peace and comfort must the full recognition of the right of those who work, in whatever be recognized by governments and America should be the first rank, to participate-in some organic way in every decision which to lay the foundation stones upon which industrial peace shall directly affects their welfare. It is with this purpose in mind be built. that I called a conference to meet in Washington on December Labor not only is entitled to an adequate wage, but capital 1st, to consider these problems in all their broad aspects, with should receive a reasonable return upon its investment and is the idea of bringing about a better understanding between entitled to protection at the hands of the government in every these two interests. emergency. No government worthy of the name can "play" The great unrest throughout the world, out of which has these elements against each other, for there is a mutuality of emerged a demand for an immediate consideration of the diffi­ interest behveen t:]fem which the government must seek to ex­ culties between capital and labor, bids us put our own house in press und to safeguard at all cost. order. Frankly, there can be no permanent and lasting settle­ The .right of .individuals to strike is inviolate and ought not ments between capital and labor which do not recognize the to be interfered with by any process of government, but tll€re fundamental concepts for which labor has been struggling is a predominant right and that is the right of .the government through the years. The whole world gave its recognition arid to ~rotect all of its people and to assert its power and majesty endorsement to these fundamental purposes in the League of ag:unst tJ:ie challenge of any class. The government, when it Nations. The statesmen gathered at Versailles recognized the asserts that right, seeks not to antagonize a class but simply fact that world stability could not be had by reverting to indus­ to defend the right of the whole people.as against the irreparable trial standards und conditions against which the average work­ harm and injury that might be ~one by the attempt by uny class man of the world had revolted. It is, therefore, the task of the to usurp a power that only government itself has a right to statesmen of this new day of change and readjustment to recog­ exercise as a protection to all. · nize world conditions und to seek to bring about, through legis­ lation, conditions that will mean the ending of· age--long antago­ In the matter of international disputes which have led, to wa_r, nisms between capital and labor and that will hopefully lead to statesmen have sought to set up as a remedy arbitration for the building-up of a comradeship which will result not only in war. DQes this not point the way for the settlement of indus­ trial disputes: by _, the establishment of a tribunal, fair and just greater ~ontentment among the mass of workmen but also bring about a greater production and a greater prosperity to business alike to all, which will settle industrial disputes which in the itself. pa~t have led to war. and disaster? America, witnessing the evil consequences which have _followed out of such disputes To analyze the particulars in the demands of labor is to admit the justice of their complaint in many matters that lie between these. contending forces, must not admit itself impo­ at their basis. The workmun demands an adequate wage, suffi­ tent to deal wttll. these matters by means of peaceful processes. cient to permit him to live in comfort, unhampered by the fear Surely, there must be some method of bringing together ,in a of poverty a.nd want in his old age. He demands the right to council of peace ~d amity these two great interests out of li\e and the right to work amidst sanitary surroundings both which will come a happier day of peace and cooper~tion a in home and in workshop, sttrroundings that develop and do not day that will make men more hopeful and enthusiastic in their retard his own health and well-being; and the right to provide various , tasks, that will make for more comfort und happiness for his children's wants in the IIU'.tter of health and education. in living and a more tolerable condition among all classes of In other words, it is his desire to make the conditions of his life­ men. Certainly Immsn in~elligence can devise some acceptable and the lives of those dear to him tolerable and easy to bear. tribunal for adjusting the differences between capital and labor. The establishment of the principles regarding labor laid down This is the hour of test ·and trial for America. By her prow-ess' in the covenunt of the League of Nations offers us the way to and strength, and the indomitable courage of her soldiers sl1e industrial peace and conciliation. No other road lies open to demonstrated her power to vindicate on foreign battlefiel

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- I UEPORTS OF SECUET.ARY OF THE SENATE. _any, had _to be paid, and for the first llix months of 1910 coal-mine operators in Colorado showed a loss of 4 cents per ton. In justice to The VICE PRESIDENT laid before the Senate a communica­ the operators of this State we are wat-ranted in asking that this state­ tion from the Secretary of the Senate, transmitting, pursuant ment have the widest publicity you are in position to give it. to law, n 8tatement of all property belonging to the United States _ COLORADO AND NEW MEXICO COAL 0PE1U'l'ORS' .~SSOCIATION, in hi.· possession on December 1, 1919, which, with the accom­ By F. R. WooD, President. panyin-g pnper, was ordered to lie on the table and be printed. 1\fr. Sl\IITH of Georgia. I present resolutions adopted by the He also laid before the Senate a communication from the board of directors of the Atlanta Chamber of Commerce of Secretary of the Senate, transmitting, pursuant to law, a state­ Georgia; of the board of directors of the Brunswick Board of ment of the receipt.. and expenditures of the Senate for the Trade, of Georgia; and of the Commercial Club, of Savannah, month of June, 1919, which, with the accompanying paper, was Ga., relative to our merchant marine. I move that the resolu­ ordereu to lie on the table and be printed. tions be referred to the Committee on Commerce. The motion \\US ugreed to. MESSAGE FROM THE HOUSE. 1\lr. CHAl\lBERLAIN. I present resolutions adopted by the­ Mr. Hempstead, the enrolling clerk of the House of Repre­ chamber of commerce of Astoria, Oreg., favoring an appro­ sentative , appeared and delivereu the following message: priation for the erection of a su-itable po t office and Federal l\Ir. President, I am directed by the House of Representa­ building at that: city. I nsl( that the resolutions be printed in tiYes to inform the Senate that a quorum of the House of Repre­ the RECORD and referred to the Committee on Public Buildings sentatives has appeared and that the House is really to proceed nnd Grounds. to business. There being no objection, the resolutions were referred to the Also, that a committee of three members were appointed by Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds and ordered to be the Speaker on the part of the HouE'e to join the committee on printed in the llKCORD, as follows : ' the part of the Senate to notify the President of the United ASTORIA, OREG., Norember 18, 19l!J. States that a quorum of the two Houses has assembled, e.nd that To the lwnat·able Senate and House of Representati L'es of the U11iteiL Congress .is ready to receive any communication he may be States in Congt-css assembled: pleased to make. and that l\1r. MoNDELL, Mr. Goon, and Mr. Yo~r memorialist, the Astoria Chamber of Commerce, of the city of Astorw, most respectfully represents that within the past few years KITCHIN "·ere appointed as a committe2 on the part of the there bas been ercctcu in the city of Astoria, in CJutsop County, Oreg.. House. a mo:trict Also, that the Rou e had pas. ell the follow·ing bills: within the city a high-school building, at a cast of $126,000, nnu a large grammar school, at a cost of $100,000. nntl the city of Astoria bas S. 183. An act pro\iding additional time for the payment of Ncctecl a modern city hall, at a cost of $50,000, and has reclaimecl anti purchase money under homestead entries of lands \Yi thin rhe !JJ!l'tl tbe first, second, and thlrtl units of a reclamation project in the fQrmer Fort Peck Indian lleserYation, Mont.; and ctty at a cot of $G75,000, involving the raising of buildings to gratles, at a cost of $200,000, antl construction of bard-surfaced streets antl S. 2129. An act to amend an act appro\ed l\Iarch 26, 1008, paving co ting $1,000,000, with work on the fourth unit of the recla­ entitled "An act to pro\itle for the repayment of certain com­ mation project about to commence. which will involve an adtlitionnl missions, excess pa~·ments, and purchase moneys paid under expenditure of $7::1,000, and the port of Astoria has constructed public tlOd{3, g-rnin <'levators, flour mill. and belt line railway, at an expendi­ the public-land laws." ture of $3,000,000, and L· now proposing further similar expenditureJ Also, that the Hou e had passed the follo\-ring bill::;, in whirh for adtlitional docks, dry tloclc ~, ant1 marine railway; and it requested the concurrence of the Senate: Wherens the Astoria post oftice was rnted first class on July 1. l!H7 :m,000, and further is w;;r d as a distributing center for mrul to ant! H. R. 2946. An net to amend acts to permit the use of the from the entire comtt,v of Clat•·cp, Oreg., and the southwestern portton of Wahkiakum County antl th;• western portion of Pacific County riaht of way through the public lands for tramroad., caua1s, Wash. The present combined po,·t office ancl customhouse. which wa~~­ and reservoirs, and for other purpoEes; l•nilt a half century ago, when A toria had Jess than one-tenth of it ~ H. R. 4311. An act to authorize the addition of certain lauds p ~ e <'nt popnlation, ls so old, so insanitary, an!l so small as to be a disgrace to the community anll is inadeqnate and un.·u't<'ll for the pur­ to the Caribou National Forest; pose and not in harmony wtth other public buil1lings and civic im­ H. R. 8028. An act to add to the Oregon, Siusla\\·, ~nd Crr.ter prov e::::~ents of the city, the dimensions of the workroom, in which 22 National Forests in Oregon certain lands that \Yere revesteu employee of the Post Office Department are obligetl to worl' anti throu~h which this heavv volume of business must be handled, bein~ in the United States pursuant to the decision of the Supreme only 31 by 45 feet, an1l t'he dimension of the lobby usetl by the pnbli-c Court of the United States in the case of the Oregon & Cali­ approximately only 10 by 40 feet, or so small as to cause continual ron· fornia Railroad Uo. against the United States, and for other ~estion and to prevent proper ·ervice bein,t:; afforded the public. Fm·­ purpo es; ther, the accommodations afforded in the pre. r ut building for the e:ustomhouse are t-ntirel.v inadrquate, seriou!'ily restridP1l anrl cong~>stl>1l. H. n. 8992. An act for the construction of a bridge across and the present Fre approximately 50,000 peoplr by signed by the Vice President: the timr tl1e building is completed : an1l we furthermore urge that S. 2961. An act authorizing the Chincoteague 'l'oll Road & prompt action be takf'n that the emPrgency conditions set forth may hi' alleviated at the earliest possible ted the following resolution, pre enteu IJy excess profits of coal operators, first, because it leads the public to Mayor Peters. without a smgle dissentin.,. vote: uelieve the profits of operators through the whole country were as he Resolved, That the national welfare requires a speedy ratification or states thrm ; . econd, because we have believed data in the Internal­ the treaty of Versailles and the league of nations, and we call upon Revenue Departme11t was confidential and that no officer or employee the President and the Senate of the United States to adjust their differ­ or ex-officer or t:'mployce, under his oath, is permitted to make such ences by mutual concessions to the end that we may have peace ana an information public, either for public purposes or for his own private enduring peace. advantage. Are we correct in the latter assumption? And, if so, by GEN. CHARLES II. CoLE, Presidiuo. what means can McAdoo justify his action? We wish to say that so l\Ir. FL:mTCHER. I present communications and telegrams far as Colorado is concerned l\lc.\doo's statement wholly misrepresents that fact. Coal mining in Colorado statement showed a profit of 20 in the nature of petitions, which I ask to have printed in the cents a ton in 1918, out of which income taxes and excess profits, if RECORD. 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 33

THE JOHN G. SALLEY POST, No 43, There being no objection, the communications and telegrams THE AMElliCAN LEGION, were ordered to be printed in the REconn, as follows : Homestead, Fla., November 26, 19.0. Resolutions adopted by Claude L. Sauls Post, No. 13, American Legion, WhC'rcas WI:' considet• the murder of our brothers in arms of the Graut Tallahassee, Fla., November 25, 1919. Hodge Post, No. 17, Centralh, Wash., by the I. W. Vi.'.'s an act of Whereas on November 11, at Centralia, Wash., four members of the downright, premediated murder, treachery, and anarchy against our American Legion were assassinated by persons belonging to an or­ Government ; and ganization known as the Industrial Workers of the World; and Whereas the society of the I. W. W. is a serious menace to our country Whereas there are at large in the United States large numbers of per­ and are admitted to be enemies of law and order; and sons, including members of the Industrial Workers of the World, cer­ Whereas there appears to be an organized and prepared campaign by the tain reds or radicals, and believers in Bolshevik doctrines, who are society of the I. W. W. and others to create a state of lawlessness and sprrading propaganda and political theories tending to undermine and crime throughout our. entire country: Therefore be it destroy our system of free government, and the ideals for which the Resolved, That the John G. Salley Post, No. 43, of the American American Legion stands : Therefore be it Legion, State of Florida, condemns the actions of tha I. W. W.'s not Resolved by the members ot Olaude L. Sauls Post No. 13, That we, the only in Centralia, Wash., but throughout the country at large. members of this post, do most severely condemn the activities of those That congreasional action on individuals and organizations un-Ameri­ organizations and individuals hereinabove mentioned, and that-we de­ co.n be demanded and that all undesirable citizens be deport€d at once. plore the murdering of members of the American Legion by the said or­ That Americanism must be the big issue now and be required from ganizations; and be it further every citizen. Resolved, That we urge upon our representatives in the Congress of That the John G. Salley Post, No. 43, assist in any campaign carried the Untted States that most effective and stringent measures be taken· on against the persons or societies on-American and that they will be to suppress and stamp out this evil, and to send elsewhere those who responsible for conditions in their district. are dissatisfied with our form of government; and be it further That a copy of these resolutions be mailed to our Congressman and Resolved, That a copy of these resolutions be forwarded to our Repre­ Senators, and to urge upon them the necessity of their attention to the sentatives and Senators in Congress, to the national and State head­ formation of such laws as will forever stamp out these traitors to law quarters of this organization, and copies be furnished the newspapers and order from our country. for publication. Adopted by Claude L. Sauls Post No. 13, American Legion, at Talla­ The officers of the Church Peace Union issue the following statement hassee, Fla., this 25th day of November, 1919. with regard to the failure of the United States Senate to ratify the W. E. GRISSETT, treaty of Versailles with its covenant of the league of nations: Oommander above-named post. We view with concern and indignation the lamentable lack of states­ Attest: manship that has led to the failure of the treaty in the Senate. On so R. S. ArPLEYARD, weighty a matter, fraught with incalculable consequences to humanity, Adjtttant, above-named post. it ou~t to be possible for patriotic and fair-minded men, regardless of partisan or personal prejudice, to get together in working out a safe and full cooperation of this country in a real international order. Political ST. AUGUSTINE, FLA., December 1, 1919. partisanship on such an issue is shameful and inexcusable. non. DUNCAN U. FLETCHER, Especially do we deprecate certain motives which have conspicuously United States Senate, Washington, D. 0.: played a large part in the defeat of the covenant--distrust of other nations, unwillingness to join with them in a common effort to minimize Destructive radicalism, which seems uncontrollable under present war by organizing the moral forces of mankind and by furthering laws, should no longer be permitted to flourish in this country. Ade­ international cooperation, a disposition to demand special exemption quate restrictive measures should be passed without delay. and consideration for our own country, and a reluctance to let America J. D. RAHNER. bear her due share of the burden of common human need. We covet for this country the true greatness of unlimited service. We long to PLANT CITY, FLA., December 1, 1919. see America first in helpfulness, in courage, in eagerness for a new non. DUNCAN U. FLETCHER, and better order, in largeness of soul. More than any other danger we Washington, D. 0.: fear the danger of losing, through reactions of selfishness and timidity, The Norman McLeod Post, No. 26, American Legion, Plant City, the unequaled opportunities the present hour offers our country. Fla., demands that you and each of your associates in Congress and We urge the Members of the United States Senate, regardless of party the Senate do all within their power to wipe out the murder of four or of past position, to unite in speedy ratification of the treaty, with ­ of our comrades at Centralia on Liberty Day and other un-American such reservations only as may leave unimpaired the covenant of the depredations by introducing and supporting legislation to rid our coun­ league of nations and provide for America's entrance on just and equal try of I. W. W.'s, Bolsheviks, anarchists, anJ all other on-American terms, without special privileges or exemptions. organizations and all allen slackers. And we urge all in this country who have faith in God and love for J. W. ALSOBROOK, their fellow men to exert at once all the influence they possess in word, Post Commander. in prayer, and in act, to avert from our beloved country the deep dis­ grace of abandoning the .ideals for which we fought and the shame of putting safety first in this hour of the world's deep and dreadful need. Resolution. Rev. HENRY A. ATKINSON. Rev. ARTHUR JUDSON BROWN. The Harrison-Hunter Post, No. 32, American Legion, Winter Park, Rev. FREDERICK LYNCH. Fla., takes action in favor of exporting all I. W. W. people in the Rev, WILLIAM PIERSON MERRILL. United States. The murdering of four American soldiers at Centralia, Rev. CHARLES S. MACFARLAND. Wash., we consider an outrage, and believe Congress ·should act on this Mr. GEORGE A. PLIMPTON. matte.r at once. It is time for a real house cleaning in America, and a thorough one, cost what it may. If it will take the Army and the Navy to wipe them out, we stand ready; if the Department of Justice MILTON, MASS., December 1, 1919. can do it, let us have vigorous action; if vigilance committees are DUKCAN U. FLETCHER, needed, let us have them appointed at once. There is no room on Washington, D. 0.: American soil for such specimens of humanity. Their presence is an I earnestly urge you to use your great influence in ratifying the peace insult. The American Legion stands for 100 per cent Americanism and treuty immediately. Both Republicans and Democrats must be willin~.; believes that the United States is no place for anyone who has less to compromise on reservations for the sake of the world's safety and than 100 per cent Americanism. _ peace as well as of national honor. . Should congressional action be sought on individuals and organiza­ l\Irs. J. MALCOM FORBES. tions on-American, we, the members of the Harrison-Hunter Post, No. 32 most respectfully and earnestly request your absolute support on 1\Ir. EDGE. I present a memorial referring to outrages in the passing of such a measure. Ukrainia, which I ask may be printed in the RECORD and referred RAYMOND W. GnEENE, to the Committee on Foreign Relations. Post Commander. R. H. GALT, There being no objection, the memorial was referred to the Post Adjutant. Committee on Foreign Relations and ordered to be printed iu the REcoRD, as follows : DAYTONA, FLA., November 25, 1919. At a meeting held this 24th day of November, 1919, in the borough Ron. DUNCAN U. FLETCHER, of Woodbine, County of Cape May, and State of New Jersey, the fol­ Washington, D. a. lowing resolutions were unanimously adopted : DEAR Sm: The following resolution was unanimously adopted at a "Whereas authentic information has been obtained to the eliect that meeting of the Russell C. Warner Post of the American Legion held 100,000 Jews of all ages, sexes, and conditions have alrea-ly been last night: killed outright in the cities, towns, and villages of Ukrainia by mili­ " Whereas very serious industrial and social outbreaks have occurred tary forces and civilian bands who were let loose upon the defense­ in various parts of our country, causing the loss of life and the less Jewish people, destroying their homes and reducing hundreds threatened extinction of our cherished American institutions : of thousands to utter starvation and despair: Be it therefore " Whereas the continuation and spread of these outbreaks and seditious u Resolved, That we solemnly protest against the perpetration of these influences threaten the very foundations of our national life: inhuman and barbaric practices and most earnestly appeal to the Amer­ Therefore be it ican people and our Government, as well as to the whole civilized world, "Resolved, That we oppose any act on the part of any individual or in the name of humanity, to intercede in behalf of the unfortunate organization that is unpatriotic and un-American; that we hold our­ Jews of Ukrainia to the end that the hand of the assassin may be selves in readiness to defend with our lives the safety of Americans, stayed and that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for the our homes, and ot:r democratic institutions against any individual or Jewish people of those regions may be secure; and be it further organized force that seeks their destruction or threatens the complete !'Resolved, That a committee to be duly selected shall, with all due enjoyment of the liberties and privileges bought by the blood of our dispatch, proceed to Washington and respectfully submit this resolution, forefathers: Therefore be it together with all available data appertaining to these matters, to the "Resolved, That we petition the National Congress, through our Senators of our State and the Congressman of our District." elected Representatives, to take positive and definite steps to immedi­ Dr. J. JOFFE, ately purge our c?untry of all individual.3 aLd organizations on-Amer­ M. GLAZER, ican and to carry on an extensive educational and publicity campaign A. ZUCHORITZ, on Americanism.'' Resolution Committee. RUSSELL C. WARNER POST, AMERICAN LEGION, L. LIFSHUS, J. L. PEPPER, Acljutant. Mass Meeti11g Ohairman.

LIX-3 ·34 OO.r GRESSION.t\..L RECORD-SENATE. DECEl\iBER 2,

1\Ir. LODGE pre entetl petitions from citizens of Boston, Cam­ He also presented a memorial of Local Lodge No. 788, Broth­ },ridge, l\·ayland, and \ orcester, all in the State of 1\Iassachu­ erhood of Railway Clerks, of St. Ignace, Mich., remonstrating , etts, prnying for the ratification of the treaty of peace with against the passage of the so-called Cummins bill, relating to Germany by the adoption of compromi e reservations, which Federal control of railroads, which -was ordered to lie on tlle · ·were ordered to lie on the table. table. Mr. JO~""ES of Washington presented a petition of Capitol He also presenteu a memoTial of Local Ledge ~o. 8, Brother­ Lodge, No. 1 G, B. P. 0. E., of Olympia, \Vash., praying .for hood of Railway and terunship Clerks, of Grand Rapids, l\Iich., the enactment of legi lation providing for the suppression of the remonstrating against the enactment of le"'islation providing I. \V. \V. and similar organizations, and the deportation of aliens for a termination of Federal control of railroads which vms who are member. of such organization, which was referred to referred to the Committee on Interstate Commerce: the Committee on the .Judiciary. He also presented a memorial of Local Lodge No. 1159, 1\Ir. MOSES pre. ented a resolution adopted by the congt·ega­ Brotherhooil of Railway Carmen of America, of Bay City, l\Iich., tion of the village church of Franklin, N. H., favoring action protesting against the passage of the so-called Cum.mins"Esch by Congre s in order to relie\""e the danger now threatening the railway bills, which was referred "to the Committee on Inter­ Armenian people, which was referred to the Committee on state Commerce. Foreign Relation . He nlso submitted a petition of Local Lodge No. 677, Boiler­ He also presented a resolution adopted by sundry citizens Of makers .and Helpers of the Detroit & Mechanic Railway, of Wolfeboro, N.H., favoring prompt action by Congress in main­ Michigan, praying for a two years' extension of Government taining peace in Armenia, which was referred to the Committee control of railroads, which was referred to the Committee on on Foreign Relations. Interstate Commerce. He also presented a memorial of Manchester Council, No. 92, He also pre ented a memorial ofl.\IineraPKing Lodge, No. 129, Knights of Columbus, of l\!anchester, N. H., relative to the pro­ Brotherhood of Locomotive Firemen and Enginemen, of Es­ posed change of the War Department in the matter of welfare canaba, l\fich., remonstrating against the passage of the so-called work for the enlisted men of the Army, which was referred to Cummins railway bill, which was ordered to lie on the table. tile Committee on 1\lilltary ~airs. He also presented a petition of Local 'Lodge No. 279, Inter­ !He also _presented a memorial from the Society of Friends national Longshoremen Association, of Escanaba, 1\Iich., pro­ of Gonic, N. H., remonstrating against compulsory military testing against the enactment of the so-called Cummins bill, training, which was referred to the Committee on 1\lllitary which was ordered to lie on the table. Affairs. He also presented a petition of the Rotary Club of Detroit, He also presented a memorial of the Hebrew ··veterans of the l\lich., praying for the enactment of legislation providing for .Wars of the Republics, of New York, remon. trating against the the punishment of individuals and the suppres ion of organi­ massacre of Jews in Uh--rainia. which wus referred to the Com­ zations inimical to the Constitution of the United State , which mittee on Foreign Relations. was referred to the Committee on Education and Labor. Mr. STERLING presented memorials from sund-ry citizens of He also presented a petition of the Women's University ClulJ, South 'Dakota, remonstrating against compulJ ory uni\"ersal mili­ of Grand Rapids, 1\fich., praying for the enactment of le"'il"la­ tary training, whiCh were refen·ed to the Committee on l\lilitary tion providing for the appointment of a minister of education Affairs. in the President's Cabinet and for the adoption of an enlarged ··He also presented a petition 'from sundry citizens of Sioux •educational program, which '-rns referred to the Committee on Falls, S. Dak., praying .for the enactment of legislation pro­ Education and Labor. viding for a t\-vo--year extension of Government control of He also presented a memorial of sundry railr ..<1 worke1· of railroads, which was referrell to the Committee on Interstate Sault Ste. :Marie, Mich., remon tratin"' against the o-called Commerce. · Cummins-Esch-Pomerene bills and praying for the enactment of Mr. KEYES presented resolutions adopted by the New .Hamp­ legislation providing for a two-year exten ion of Go\"ernrnent shire Conference of Social Work, favoring action toward the control of railroads, which was referred to the Committee on relief of suffering Armenians, which were referred to the Com­ Interstate Commerce. mittee on Foreign .Relations. l\lr. HALE presented a memorial of the Brotherhood of Rail­ He also presented a resolution adopted by the Philadelphia way Carmen of the Maine Central Railroad, of Portland, :Me., (Pa.) Chrunber of Commerce, fa,oring the enactment of legis­ remonstrating against the .passage of the o-called Cummins lation pronclin~ for the ·prote<:tion of watersheds of navigable bill relating to Federal control of railroads, which wn:s ordered streams, etc., which was referred to the Committee on Com­ to lie on the table. meTce. He also presented a memorial of Casco "Bay Lodge, ~ o. 397, Mr. NELSON presented petitions of the District of Columbia' Brotherhood of Railway Carmen of America, of Portland, ::ue., Sons of the American Revolution, and of the Red Wing ~linnesota remonstrating against the.pa.ssa..ge of the o-call d Cummins bill, Lodge, No. 845, .Benevolent and Protective Order of Elh.,;, pray­ relating to Federal control of railroads, which was ordereti to ing for the enactment oflegislation providin~rfor the suppre ion lie on the table. of seditious and disloyal acts, which were referred to the ·Mr. CAPPER presented memorials from Caney Lo~o-e, 1~0. Committee on the Judiciary. 1215, "Benevolent and Protective Order o! Ellks. oi Caney, Kuru., Mr. CURTIS presented. resolutions adopted by Early W. and of Independence "Lodge, No. "780, Benevolent and Protecti\e Taylor Post, No. 1, American 'Legion, of Seneca, 'Kans., and of Order of Elks, of Independence, Kans., remonstrating a"'ain t Washington Post, No. 12, Grand ~-ll'my of the ""Republic, of seditious activities on the part of certain organization and Lawrence, Kans., favoring more stringent laws to suppre s praying for the enactment of legislation pro·dding for the de­ radicalism, which were referred to the Committee on Immi­ portation of disloyal aliens from the United States, which \\as gration. referred to the Committee on .Education and Labor. He also presented a petition of the Woman's Literary Club, He also presented a memorial of undry eitizen of llJu­ of Syracuse, Kans., praying for the enactment of legislation querque, N. 1\Ie:x:., remonsh·ating a~inst compulsory military pro-Tiding for higher rank for Army nurse , which was referred training, which was referred to the Committee on l\Iilitary ·to the Committee on Military Affairs. Affairs. He also presented a petition of sundry telegraphers of the l\1r. Sil\ThiONS _presented petitions of the Chamber of Com­ 'Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe Raili·oad, of Topeka, Kans., merce of Charlotte, N. C., and of the Cllmllber of Commerce of praying for the enactment of legislation providing •for a two­ Wilmington, N. C.~ ~ praying .for the enactment .of legislation -year extension of Government control of railroads, which was providing for the retention and operation of the United State referred to the Committee on Interstate Commerce. fleet 'Of merchant ships by the United States Shippin"' Board, He also _presented resolutions adopted by -sundry lodges of which were referred to the Committee o-n Commeree. the nenevolent and Protecth·e Order of Elks in the State of lle also presented a ..r hluti.on, in the nahu·e of a petition, Kansas, favoring the deportation of certain aliens, which were adopted at a mass meeting held in Symphony HaU, Boston, referred to the Committee on Immirrration. l\lass.., on November 30, 1919, praying that the Pre-·ident and the Mr. TOWNSEND pres-ented a memorial Of Local Lodge ~o. Senate of the United States adjust their all d differen es "191, International Association of 1\Iachinists, of Grand llapids, and that the treaty of peace with Germany be ratified, -which Mich., remonstrating against the so-called Cummins railroad was ordered to lie on the tnble. :bill and praying for the adoption of the so-called Plumb plan, l\:11". MYERS ,presented a memorial of sn:ndry citizens of Park .which was ordered to lie on the table. County, Mont., remonstrating against the enactment of leg_i la­ ; He also presented a petition of the Rotary Club, of l\farquette, tion to establish _game sanctuaries in the national forests, and ~icll., praying for universal military training, which was re­ other pm-poses, which. was referred--to tlle Committee on Forest lferred tQ the Committee on Military Affairs. Reservations and the Protection of Game. 1919. CONGRESSIOK AL RECORD-SEN~1\_TE. 35

REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. Mr. PAGE. It has had such consideration, and has also hml the consideration of the Naval Affairs Committee of the House 1\Ir. CAPPER, from the Committee on the District. of Colum­ of Representatives. It is for the purpose of correcting au bia to which was referred the bill (S. 3066) to provide for the error which is purely clerical. It was the intention to have the inc~rporation of cooperative associations in the Dist~ict of legislation effective from October 1, but by mistake of the Columbia, reported it without amendments and submitted a printer it only reaches back to October 14. report (No. 310) thereon. . Mr. WALSH of Montana. I was simply inquiring as to t.he 1\Ir. NEWBERRY from the Committee on Naval Affmrs, to consideration of the joint resolution by the Naval Affa.us which was referred the bill ( S. 1661) for the relief of Maj. Ellis Committee. B. Miller, reported it without amendment and submitted a re­ Mr. PAGE. It has been considered by that committee. port (No. 311) thereon. Mr. 'VALSH of Montana.. When was it considered in com 4 DETROIT TillER BRIDGE. mittee? 1\Ir. LODGE. I will my to the Senator that it has been con 4 1\Ir. CALDER. I am instructed by the Committee on Com­ sidered very elaborately by both the Naval Affairs Committee merce to which was referred the bill (S. 3452) granting the con­ of the House and the Naval Affairs Committee of the Senate, sent df Congress to the city of Detroit, Mich., a municipal cor­ and has been passed by bath Houses of Congress: poration, to construct, maintain, and operate a bridge across Mr. SWANSON. Mr. President, I desire to say that a similar­ the American Channel of the Detroit River at Belle Isle, to re­ resolution passed the Senate early in the last session, and it port it favorably with an amendment, and I submit a report was also passed by the House. All the joint resolution does is (No. 312) thereon. I ask unanimous consent for the present to continue the allowance for commutation of quarters to naval con ideration of the bill. officers who are in active service at sea. Under the old law There being no objection, the Senate, as in Committee of the if an officer was on land he received commutation of quarters, Whole, proceeded to consider the bill. but if he were at sea fighting he received no allowance for com­ The amendment was, in line 3, after the word "That," to mutation of quarters. 'Ve changed that a year a.go during the strike out "the consent of Congress" and insert "authority," pendency of the war. At the last session of Cong~e~s, on the so as to make the bill read : naval appropriation bill, the s~nate enacted a pronswn allow­ Be it e?tacted, etc., That authority is hereby gr;tnted to the .city of ing commutation of quarters to naval officers at sea. Such a Dett·oit a municipal corporation of the State of l\11chigan, and Its suc­ ces ors' to construct, maintain, and operate a bridge and approaches provision was not contained in the House bill, but in confer­ thereto' across the American Channel of the Detroit River, to B~lle ence we continued it until the 1st of October. The 1st of Isle, in said city, at or near ~ran? Bo.ulevard East, UJ?d at a pom.t October has now passed, so that commutation of quarters will suitable to the interests of naVIgation, m accordance Wl.th the P.rovi­ sions of the act <'ntitled "An act to regulate the constructiOn of bndges not be allowed to naval officers who are a.t sea in Asiatie, ov£-r navigable waters," approved March 23, 1906. . . European, or Pacific coast waters. I understand this measure SEC. 2. That the right to alter, amend, or repeal this act 1s hereby simply continues the allowance for commutation of quarter:; expressly reserved. for the next year as it was allowed up until the 1st of last The amendment was agreed to. October. 1'he bill was reported to the Senate as amended and the Mr. LODGE. That is all. amendment was concurred in. 1\Ir. WALSH of Montana. Mr. President, I recall some dis­ The bill was ordered to be engrossed for a third reading, read cussion of this general subject before the Nav-al Affairs Com­ the third time, and passed. mittee a year ago. All I wa.s inquiring about, however, was The title was amended so as to read: "A bill authorizing the when this particular measure had been given the consideration city of Detroit, lUich., a municipal corporation, to construct, of the Naval Affairs Committee. maintain, and operate a bridge across the American Channel of Mr. SW A.....li{SON. I was present when it was considered. the Detroit River to Belle Isle." Mr. LODGE. So was I. ALLOWANCES TO NAVAL OFFICERS. Mr. SWANSON. It was not a very full meeting of the com­ mittee, perhaps, although a quorum was present. :Mr. PAGE. I report back, with an amendment, from the 1\Ir. LODGE. A quorum was present; I was present, and the Committee on Naval Affairs, the joint resolution (H. J. Res. measure was fully discussed. I repeat, it als'O passed the 213) continuing temporarily certain allowances to officers of Senate. the Navy, and I submit a report (No. 313) thereon. . Mr. S'V.ANSON. It was considered by the Naval Affairs This is a joint resolution similar to a resolution which hereto­ Committee at the last session of Congress. fore passed the Senate, but with a slight clerical error. It ha.s Mr. LODGE. Yes; it was considered at the last session. gone to the other House, and that body has passed it and re­ 1\fr. 'VALSH of Montana. That is not at all unlikely; but I turned it to the Senate. The vote has been practically unani­ take this occasion to advise the chairman of the committee that mous in both Houses in favor of the joint resolution, but in the clerk of the committee seems to have forgotten I am a mem­ order to correct a clerical error the House committee requests ber of the committee, for I no longer receive any notices of the that we amend the joint resolution and return it, a.s that will meetinrrs. I do not know how it is as to others, but some very relieve it from certain parliamentary conditions which are import~nt business has been transacted by the committee in re­ unfavorable. I ask that the report of the committee may be cent times of which I have bad no notice whatever. read, and I also ask unanimous consent for the present con­ Mr. SWANSON. This measure was under consideration at sideration of the joint resolution. the last session, but, as I understand, Congress adjourned with­ The VICE PRESIDENT. The Secretary will read the report out having acted finally on it. The cloture rule precluded any of the Committee on Naval Affairs. possibility of its passage. The Secretary rend the report, as follows : 1\Ir. WALSH of Montana. I am merely asserting that it was The Committee on Naval Affairs, to whom was referred the joint considered at some meeting of the committee a.t which I was not resolution (H. J. Res. 213) continuing temporarily certain allowances to officers o:C the Navy, having considered the same, r-eport favorably oresent and of which, apparently, I had no notice. thereon with the recommendation that the res.)lution do pass witll - Mr. LODGE. It passed the Senate on October 14. amendments. After the word " repealed," line 5 of page 2, add : Mr. PAGE. I am quite certain, Mr. President, that the Sen­ "Provided That officers of the Navy and Marine Corps shall be ator had notice of the meeting at which the measure was con­ entitled to ail the rights and benefits under said act of April 16, 1918 sidered as he ha.s bad notice of every meeting since the session (Public, No. 129), from and afte,r October 1, 1919, and during the pref'ent emergency." comme~ced last May. I take a great deal of pains to send notices Change the title of the resolution by striking out the period after to the homes of Senators, as well as to their offices, and I am the wot·d "Navy" and adfling the worus "and Marine C-orps." verv certain that the Senator had the usual notice. .Amend the preamble, first line, by striking out the word "will " and in:o;erting in lieu thereof the word "has," anu strike out the word The VICE PRESIDENT. Is there objection to the present "have"; fifth line, strike out the period after the parenthesis, insert consideration of the joint resolution? in lieu thereof a comma, and add the word "and." There being no objection, the Senate, as in Committee of the Allowances for officers of the Navy are the same according to statute law act of March 3, 1899, as for officers of corresponding rank in the Whole, proceeded to consider the joint resolution, which had been Ar~y. The repeal of the section referred to is sinlply to continue for reported from the Committee on Naval Affairs with an amend­ officers of the Navy and Marine Corps the same commutation as is ment. beinrr paid to officers of the Army, and inasmuch as the provision limits this "'commutation to October 1, 1919, the committee earnestly req1,1ests The amendment was, on page 2, liQ.e 5, after the word " re­ that early action be taken. pealed," to insert: 1\Ir. W A.LSH of Montana. Mr. President, I desire to inquire Provided, That offi<-ers of the Nnvy and Marine Corps shall be entitled to all the rights and l>encfits unll~r said act of April 16, 1918 (Public. of the chairman of the committee as to whether the joint resolu­ No. 129), from and after Octol>et' 1, 1919, and during the present tion hns had the consiueration of the Naval Affairs Committee? emergency. 36 CONGRESSIONAL :RECORD-SEN~L\:TE. DECEl\IBER 2,

So n t@ mrike the fioint resolution ;read: the President under tbe law directed the information to be R68olved, etc., Thrr:t the 'J)a.ragrrrpb in 'tlm act (public, J. o. 8), 'W.hieh -reads as follows-: request, and if the President declines to -accede to it of course ... The act of A..Pl'il '16, ntHB (:public, No. J.20), granting under ce.r­ the information can not be given. tnin conditiOllil to every commissioned office-r of !the .Army the tight to quaTters in kind 'for their dependents or the authorized cummut:rtion .1\lr. SMOOT. I will say to the Senator that I llave .not A therefor, including the allowances for bent ana light, shan hereafter copy of the law before me, and therefore I can not ay just what IJ Cffilstrue.d "to rrpply to officers of the Nm:y ana Murine Corps only it does provide. ouring the period .of the war and in .no event beyond October .l., 1919.," be, and i:he same 'is hereby, Tepealed: Providea, That officers ·of 'the l\Ir. NORRIS. I do no.t thl.n'k there .is any .doubt about the law Navy and Marine Corps shall be entitled to all the rights :mll "benefits 'being as I haYe .statecl under said act of A.Pril 16, 191£ (public, No. "129), from and after l'ilr. SMOOT. If tl1e Senator from South Dakota will allow 0 tober 1, 19~9, and during the .Present ..emexgencyA the resolution to go oYer for a few moments-- The amendment was agreed to. :Mr. NORRIS. I hope the Senator will not object to it. The .Joint ..resolution -was Teport£rd to fhe Sena:.te ·as .amenued, 1\lr. SMOOT. If the Senator will allow it to go o~er .for a 1md -:the amendment was 'concmred :in. few moments I will look up the law, and if the ,resolution is Tile amendment was ordered to ·be .engro~ ed 'mid ibe jdint not in conflict with the law then I Shall have no objection to resolution to be :read a i!hird time . itc:; pa. sage. Temporarily, 'however, I ask .fhe Senator to unow .The johrt .resolution was re.ad illie i:hird time and :passed. fhe resolution to go over.. :The preamble as :rune:nded so :us rto ·en.u : Mr. JOHN ON of South Dakota. I would ,prefer, if fhat W.herens since it ·now appears tlurt peaee bas not been declared by conr e is satisfactory to the Senator, to aU.opt the resolut;ion, @ctobar 1, .11JJ.9, l>n ~Which llate t0:1ficers ot tbe .:Navy, by Dpel'lrtion of and then ff the Senator fin(ls that it has not been passed accord­ Jaw, .will cea e i:o ·receive tlle benefits prescribed in the act of A-p.dl ing to the law I will withdraw it. ~6, 19'18 tpub1ic. 'No. 129) ; una. Mr. S1\IOOT. 1\lr. President, I would very .much prefer to The 'title ;was amended so as to Tend: "A joint J.>esolution con­ have it go over than to make any arrangement of that ldnd, -tinuing tempo-rarily -certum .allowanc-es to oificel'S of ·tire Nav,y .because I coulu not carry it out if l wanted to. .und ·the Marine Corps." The VICE PRESIDENT. The Chair understands there is objection. TNCOYE~ REPOliT OF COAL OPER'ATORB. n:Ir. J0ffi{£(i)N of South ·Dn."kota. .Do I understand the .. ena­ The V:IOE PRESIDE! ... T. 9::he :lnbruuuction of •bills -and joint :tor fr.om Uta11 objects to the lmmedjate consiileration of the 1;e olutions is in order. .resolution? 1\I.r. .JOHNSON of S uth .Dakota. Mr. .P.resident, I desire :to · 'Mr. OOT. Yes; I object to its .immediate consia.erntlon; submit a Senate tresoJ:ution, and, on uccount of the importance 'but.I will say to tne .::ena or that if "it •

By Ur. KING: Be it enacted, etc., That gold certificates of tlle Bnited States, payable to bearer on demand, shall be, and are hereby, made legal tender in pay­ A bill ( S. 3469) to transfer to the Attorney General of the ment of all debts and dues, public and private. United States the power and duty to deport certain aliens, and SEC. 2. That all acts or parts of acts which are- inconsistent with for other purposes; to the Committee on Immigration. this act are hereby repealed. By Mr. TOWNSE:\'D: Mr. SMOOT. lUr. President, on account of the urgency of A bill (S. 3470) granting an increase of pension to Wesley H. this legislation, I ask unanimous consent to make u statement Dick (with accompanying papers); and in regard to it at this time. The chairman of the Committee A bill (S. 3471) granting an increase of pension to Ann Le­ on Banking and Currency is not present, but I ~hould like and nora Sayre (with accomp._tnying papers); to the Committee on I will state also that the depa.rtment would like immediate Pen....ctions. T1·e-asury on presentation is at a pxemium; or, in other words, The joint resolution (S. J. Res. 129) to provide for an in­ they can take the silver dollar to-day and sell it as bullion for quiry into the laws governing e1edions in the seveml States of more than the t'om­ of 1\Iontana. And he goes to the Treasury and mend to Congress uch legislatio-n as will reduce the representation in actually get!:; the silYer on them? said State or States, as p.rovided by the- fourteenth amendment. Said l\Ir. S"MOOT. He can go to the Treasury and get flver joint committee shall also ta.ke into conside:mti.on all conditions under which the suffmge is exercised, denied, or abridged, no less than the uollar . taw~ themselves under which it is done, and it shall report its conch~· 1\rr~ WALSH of 1\Iontana. Can the Senator ten us how mucb sions to the Congress not later than July 1, 1!!20. actual coin I:Jas been thus withdrawn from the Treasury? The VICE PRESIDENT. The joint resolution will be re­ 1\lr. Sl\100'£. I will state to the Senator before I get through ferre, tn1 1\lr. KIXG submitted two amendments intended to be proposed Total ______496,327, G31 by him to tlle bill ( S. 3288") further to regulate commerce among The act of April 23. 1918, commonly knoiVll as tile "Pittman tbe States anu with .foreign nations and to amend an act en­ Act," autho1·izes tlte Secretary of the Treasury to melt or break titletl "An act to regulate commerce/' approved Februc.ny 4, up sih·er uoUarsr nn

.I ,ne-ver ,before hear-d of a refusal to accept a .gold certificate in The resolution ( S. Res. 241) was .read, considered by unani­ parment of -a debt or the cancellation .of an obligation. mous consent, and agreed to, as follows: 1\Ir. SMOO';C. I will say to the Senator that the Tr.easury .Resolved, That the Secretary of State .is hereby directed to u·ansmit De_pM"tment assures m~. and I have always understQod it to .be -to the Senate -at his earliest oorrvenienee a statement sbowiilg the ~ates which have ratified the eighteenth amendment to the Federal eonstita­ the case, -that iWherev.e.r there is a contract, and one of the .parties .titm and rthe dates of such ratificati&ns., :Recording to fficial documents to the contract desires rto get out of U, unless legal tender is ~n .file in the nepartment of State. ffered in iuLl payment for the contract the party desiring to get out of :it has the right under the law to do so. .nocuMENT oN BOLSHEVISM. Mr. President, the gold certificates, I wish to say here in l\1r. JONES of Washlrrgton. I offe-r ·a eoneun-ent •reso1uti{7n i)U~ ir\g, amo-unt to $1,463,912,069 to-day. There are .$800,- which I ask to have read. ' . 2&! ;05~ .of .them held in the ·Treasury, and ther.e 11re $239,248,280 The concurrent resolution {S. Con. nes. ·19) was read, as held by Fe~al .reserve agents. As I stated before, there follows : are $654,670,000 that are payable to order. The balance of .them Resolved by the Senate (the House :()j Representatives concur ring) are payable to bearer on demand. That that part of Senate Document No. 61, first session, Sixty-sixth The net amount .of gold certificates in circulation is $424;. Congress, nnder the heading "Bolsh~vimn" and found from page 27 439,732, the denominations ef which range from ct . to $ , • to. the close of th.e first paragraph on page 43 of said document , be 't'10 5 000 pnnted as '8. _pnblle docnment, and that 12~000,000 copi€S thereof be As these certificates are recei_pts of the Government for gold printed, 4,'000,000 copies for the use of the Senate and s:<>oo ooo ,d€posited ""ith it, and as ·each certificate must be redeemed 1n c~ies for the use o~ the House of Representatives, to be paid tor .One­ -gold on 'rlemand, there seems to be no good reason why a gold ~n:{tJ~= ~dc~~e.wo~::.d of the Senate and one-half from the certificate pa;yable to bear-er on demand and which -can -command , the actual gold nt nny time ·should not be made n legal tender Mr. .'TDNES of Washington. Just -a word, :Mr. President. for all public and _private dues. I beliere that one Qf the most effective methods of meeting Should the MU become a law, the banks would no 'longer 'Boishevism is to let the people drngw clearly what Bolshevism haYe any oaject in ·holding the United States legal-tender nares, is. .In the last Congress a committee of the Senate made a ·and would, withont doubt, immediate1y 1:elease them to the fulll11.nd -thorougb !investigation of the sulJ:teet, rund.er the chalr­ Treasury in ex0hange for $1 and $2 notes. The supp-ly of gold manship of the :Senator fr.o-m North Carolina [1\ir. OVER:~.LAN]. certificates would be more than ample f.o-r the needs of those 'This committee .stated fully, clearly., .and .concisely the .funda­ desiring Ito make legal tenders on -contrac-ts o-r debts, 'RD.d the .mental ,prtnciples -o:f Bolshevism, and wbat it is. I believ.e tb.at gold 'Certificates wou1d be i'ound much more convenient for if the pe<>ple of the country Crd w gol-d, in the semmation ~ lnfonnation as to ~hat -constitutes Bolshevism proposed b-tll and mserted the wo-r.d ".silver," because we can not seems to me JUst to help the ~o~sheVIsts ~ad thell' uwn Jl-ro.pa­ .a.Fford, M:r. PJ.•.esident, under .any circumstances, to .ey.en .seem ganda. .I ho'pe that the Prmtmg Committee will bring m an !o authorize. the payment of .eitber _p.riblic or p.riv..a'te debts in a unfavorable report. I agree pr-ecisely with QOO >Gf the great depreciated currency. - 'S'tatesm-en .MENT. hally, at any rate., and that 1vas not his falrlt. It was not in -a higher sense, my fault, -either. It wrrs -physically umrv

CHILDREN OF FOREIG PARENTAGE. some comments at the conclusion of the reading. Your name l\1r . .JONES of 'Vasbington submitted the following concur­ or your activities are mentioned or referred to in the document. rent resolution (S. Con. Res. 18), which was referred to the The ,,·hole of the matter refers to the Lever Act for food 1 Committee on the Judiciary: control, when that act was in the making. I think it will ' Resolved by tile Senate (the House of Representatives concurring), interest you, and I shall be pleased if you can not only read it That the following article is hereby proposed to the several States as carefully but gi\e me your comments thereon. . an amenument to the Constitution, which shall become valid to all intents and purposes as a part of the Constitution when ratified by The statements contained in the document are called forth , the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States: by the action of the Department of Justice in the case brought l "ARTICLE 19. against the miners. "SECTIOX 1. ~ r o child hereafter born in the United States of foreign You read into the RECORD corresponuence with the Attorney: parentage shall be eligible to citizenship in the United States unless General, l\Ir. Palmer. I ask if you will pursue the course o,, I.Joth parents are eligible to become citizens of the United States." justice in having the inclosed statement also made part of t1ie"1 AMENDMENT OF THE RULES. RECORD. Mr. CURTIS. I end to the desk a notice which I ask may Very truly, yours, be read. SAML. GOMPERS, The VICE PRESIDENT. The notice will be read. Preside·nt American Federation ot Labor. The Secretary read as follows: I hereby give notice that on Thursday, December 4, 1919, I shall PAPER PREPARED AND READ BY SAMUEL GOMPERS AS PART OF Hls An- ' propose the following- amendment to the Standing Rules of the Senate: DRESS AT A PUBLIC l\IASS MEETING HELD UNDER THE AUSPICES OF "Resol-r;ed, That Rule XIX of the Standing Rules for Conducting THE CENTRAL LABOR UNION AT TYPOGRAPHICAL TEMPLE SATURDAY Business in the Senate of the United States be amended by adding the EVEXING, NOVEMBER 22, 1919, WASHINGTON, D. C. . following provi. o at the end of the first paragraph of said rule, to wit: (Released November 22, at 8 p. m.) ''Provided, That after any question has been considered upon 5 separate calendar day:;. or when any question bas been debated for 10 "November 9, 1919, the executive council of the American Fed­ consecutive hours, it shall be in order for any Senator to rise to a eration of Labor issued a statement concerning the injunction question of privilege and move to clo~e all debate and vote at a fixed time upon the pending question before the Senate after 3 hours' granted by Judge .Anderson ordering the officers of the United additional consideration. Said motion shall be submitted to the l\fine Workers to call off a strike of miners. In that statement Senate and shall be determined by a yea-and-nay vote. If a majority appears the following : of the Senators present vote in favor of the motion, it shall be declared carried, debate shall close, and a vote taken upon the question as " ' B.oth the restraining order and the injunction, in so far as provided in the motion. If less than a majority vote for the IIDotion, its prohibitory features are concerned, are predicated upon the the same shall be declared lost." LeYer Act, a law enacted by Congress for the purpose of prevent­ Mr. KELLOGG. I giye the notice in writing which I send to ing speculation and profiteering of the foQd and fuel supplies the desk and ask to have read." of the country. There never was in the minds of Congress in The VICE PRESIDENT. The notice will be read. enacting that law, or in the mind of the President when be The Secretary read as follows : signed it, that the Lever Act would be applied to workers in I hereby give notice that on Thursday, the 4th day of December, 1919, case of strikes or lockouts. I shall· propose the following amendment to the Standing Rules of the "• The food controller, l\Ir. Hoover, specifically so states. Senate: "Resol-r;ed, That Rule XIX of the Standing Rules for Conducting "'l\Iembers of the committee having the bill in charge have Business in the Senate of the United States be amended by adding the in writing declared that it was not in the minds of the com­ following proviso at the end of the first paragraph of said rule, to wit: mittee, and the t.hen Attorney General, Mr. Gregory, gave assur­ • Provided, That after any measure bas been considered upon three sepa­ rate calendar days, or has been debated for six consecutive hours, no ance that the Government would not apply that law to the Senator shall speak more than one hour in the aggregate upon any such workers' efforts to obtain improved working conditions. E\ery measure and u.ny amendment thereto and any motion affecting the assurance from the highest authoiity of our Government was same.'" TREATY OF PEACE WITH GERMANY. given that the law would not be so applied.' "November. 12, former Attorney General Gregory was quoted Mr. CUl\11\HNS. I offer a Senate resolution, which I ask to in the press as having made denial that he had given Secretary have read and lie over under the rule. Morrison and me the assurances referred to. The press report The VICE PRESIDENT. The resolution will be read. is as follows : The resolution (S. Res. 242) was read, as follows: " ' Former Attorney General Gregory denied in a statement Resolved, That the President be requested to furnish to the Senate, here to-day that he had gi\en assurances to labor leaders that if compatible with the public interest, copies of all written communi­ cations, if any, and the substance of all verbal communications, if any, the Lever Act would not be enforced against their organizations between the United States and either Great Britain, France, Italy, or in attempts to better working conditions, as asserted by officers Japan respecting the conditions and reservations adopted by the Senate of the American Federation of Labor. and contained in the resolution of ratification of the treaty of peace with Germany concluded at Versailles on the 28th day of June, 1919, "• While Attorney General I did not at any time give assur­ and voted upon in the Senate on the 19th day of November, 1919. ances to anyone that any law would not be enforced against any Mr. WILLIAl\1S. 1.~he resolution goes to the Committee on class of citizens,' he said. • I gave no assurances that the Gov­ ·Foreign Relations, does it not? ernment would not seek to enforce the Lever Act.' l\Ir. CUMMINS. I asked that it lie over until to-morrow. "WHAT OCCuRRED DURING THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL. 1\lr. 'VILLIA.l\IS. Very well. "When the food bill was introduced in the House.it was thus The VICE PRESIDENT. The resolution will lie over under explained· by Representative Lever, its author, in an interview - the rule and be printed. in the New York Times of 1\lay 20, 1917: THE LABOR SITUATlON. "• Never was such a drastic bill drawn. Tbe President has Mr. THO:llAS. 1\lr. President, on the 22d day of November given his word that it is only a war measure and that it ceases I receiYed a communication from Mr. Samuel Gompers, presi­ to be in effect when the war is over. It is framed simply to dent of the American Federation of Labor, inclosing a type­ safeguard the Nation's food supply for its own use and for what­ written document which he requested me to make some com­ ever we can do for our allies while w:e are fighting the war ments upon, and also to make it a part of the CoNGRESSIONAL out.' RECORD, in view of the fact that I had previously read into the "When the bill came up for action, Representative Keating, RECORD certain correspondence with the Attorney General of on behalf of labor, urged an amendment prov;iding that nothing the United States relating to comments upon an alleged con­ in section 4 should be construed as repealing sections 6 and 20 struction of the law known as the Lever Act. I have compliecl of the Clayton Act. in part with Mr. GomperS's request by making some comments "June 22, 1917, this debate was held in the House between upon this document, and I now ask unanimous consent to have Represenatives Lever and Keating, as reported by the CoNGRES­ inserted in the REconn some communications, together with my siONAL RECORD, page 4396: comments thereupon, and also that they be printed in the "• Mr. LEVER. * * * We do not believe-and the matter larger type. was thoroughly discussed in the Committee on Agriculture­ The VICE PRESIDENT. Is there objection? The Chair that this section in any wise serves to repeal or amend in the hears none, and it is so ordered. . least particular either the Clayton Antitrust Act or any other The matter referred to is as follows: act which deals with the right of men to strike for purposes of increasing their wages or bettering their living conditions. 'VASHINGTON, D. C., November 22, 1919. We do not believe that this affects that in the least. Bon. CHARLES S. THOMAS, " • l\Ir. KEATING. Let us get the issue cleared up. Let us get Senate Office Build·ing; Washington, D. 0. a concrete case. Suppose that men engaged in work on the Sm: Inclosed you '~ill find a typewritten document which railroads of the country-we will say the telegraph operators I have prepared and expect to read this evening at a·n open on a particular line in this country-decided to strike. Is it meeting in this city, with some brief introductorY. remarks ~nd the object of the gentlemen, and is it the object of this bill, that 1919. -CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. the power shall be vested in some one to compel those men to "' 1\fr. SHEPPARD. Does not the Senator think that, if neces· go back to work? Let us face the issue squarely, and if this is sary, such an amendment can be enacted subsequently as sub· not your purpose why not adopt this amendment? stantive and independent legislations? · "' 1\Ir. LEVER. I am glad to face the issue squarely. If there "'Mr. HoLLIS. I think it might, but I should dislike to under­ were such a combination to strike for the purpose of bettering take the contract·of getting it through both Houses at this time. living conditions or increasing wages, there is no purpose in I think the situation may be so serious that the administration this bill, and there is no authority in this bill, to prevent it.' will have to take hold and insist on having it passed. If so, it "The following day this statement was made by Representa­ will go through; otherwise I doubt if it could be put through.' tive Keating and a letter read from Food Administrator Hoover: " On l\fonday, August 6, 1917, thi~ statement regarding the (CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, June 23, 1917, p. 4515.) rigbt of labor to strike was made in the Senate (CoNGRESSIONAL " ' .Mr. KEATING. Mr. Chairman, this amendment is the one I RECORD, Monday, Aug. 6, 1917, p. 6403) : offered the other day to section 4 of this bill. At that time I " ' 1\Ir. CHAMBERLAIN (Senator in charge of the bill). * * * made it apply exclusively to section 4. In its present form it l\fr. President, there is not anything in tile act, it seems to me, applies to the entire bill. When my amendment was before the that would prevent labor organizations . from peaceful picket­ House the other day, the contention was made that I was seek­ ing or the peaceful strike if they see fit to indulge in it; and, ing to ha\e farmers' organizations and labor organizations while, as I said, I did not vote against the Senator's amend­ exempted from the operation of this bill. I want to impress ment, and I do not recall having been with the conferees when on the Members of the House that I am not seeking any exemp­ it was receded from, I would not have hesitated to do so in tion for any class. Neither the farmers nor the members of conference, because I think it unnecessary. It was insisted labor organizations, so far as this amendment is concerned, are upon by the Senate conferees for quite a while, and finally went granted exemption from the provisions of the bill. The sole out. I really do not know how many days it had been in con­ object of this amendment is to clarify the bill. The chairman ference before the Senate conferees finally receded. But, Mr. of the Committee on Agriculture has assured us that it was President, I have not any fear tilat in the administration of not the purpose of the framers of the bill to interfere in any the food law anything would be attempted by the President or way with section 6 and section 20 of the Clayton antitrust law. by the agencies which he has power to create under the act to :Mr. Hoover, who will be called upon to administer this act, in prevent any labor or other organization from doing in a peace­ a conference held a week or two ago with representatives of ful way all that they can now do under the Clayton law to pro­ all the great labor organizations of the country, confirmed this tect themselves and their rights without any saving clause view and suggested the amendment which I have offered.· On in the bill under consideration. It is not necessary in .this that point the chairman of the Committee on Agriculture, Mr. bill in order to protect rights.' Lever, has requE:>sted rue to read the following memorandum "The defeat of the amendment caused me to call the matter which he has received from .Mr. Hoover: to the attention of the joint meeting of the advisory commission " ' MR. HOOVER'S MEMORANDUM FOR MR. LEVER. and the Council of National Defense held August 6, 1917. Those "'WASHINGTON, D. C., June 22, 1911. present at the meeting were Secretary of Navy Daniels, Secre­ tary of Commerce Redfield, Secretary of Labor Wilson, 1\fr. "'The labor representatives are very much exercised over Willard, Dr. 1\Iartin, 1\Ir. Godfrey, Mr. Rosenwald, 1\Ir. Coffin, the possible reading of the food-control bill to stretch to control and l\1r. Gompers. The minutes of the meeting show: of wages, and they suggest that an amendment may be made " ' Commissioner Gompers expressed concern over statements providing that the -labor provisions of the Clayton Act should that had come to his attention in connection with the pending not be affected by the proposed bilL I understand that l\Ir. food bill, indicating that it was the intention of certain elements Keating proposed this amendment and it was defeated. influential in its franiing to prevent all strikes, arid that it was "'It app·ears to me that there is no intention in the bill to intended that the enactment of the law should have that effect. interfere, and I believe it might silence a great deal of criticism Mr. Gompers stated that he brought the matter to the council and opposition which might be raised in the Senate if this for its very serious consideration. On motion of Secretary Red­ amendment could be undertaken. I do not wish to impose my field it was agreed that the matter should be brought· by the it views upon you, but simply to suggest that as is not the acting chairman to the attention of the President.~ intention of the bill to regulate wages it might do no harm to "After returning to my office, August 6, 1917, I dictated to satisf-y this element in the community that they are immune my secretary, among other things, this memoranda of the from attack. meeting: ,i 'Yours, faithfully, "'I stated that I had within a few tninutes of the meeting " ' HEBBEBT HooVER.' been informed that the amendment, offered by Senator Hollis " During the meeting of the executive council of the American to the food-administration bill, providing that nothing in the "F'ederation of Labor, June 25-27. I called the attention of the bill should be construed to be a repeal or modification .of sec­ members to the efforts made to have the Lever bill passed. A tions 6 and 20 (labor provisions of the Clayton Act), was drcul.u had been sent to all affiliated organizations urging thera defeated. to appeal to Members of Congress. I herewith submit a copy "'The Council of National Defense and advisory commission of that portion of the minutes of the executive council pertain­ adopted a motion that the acting chairman, Mr. Daniels, be ing to the subject : empowered and requested to present the matter-that is, the "'President Gompers informed the executive council relative Hollis amendment and the Lever statement-to the President to the action taken by the officers of the American Federation of at the Cabinet meeting to-morrow, Tuesday. Each member Labor to secure the enactment of the Lever bill before the 1st of the council expressed the hope and confidence that I need of July, 1917. He said in going over the bill there is a clause have no apprehension on that score. Mr. Willard arose and which might be construed to be conspiracy if a strike occurred. stated he was in hearty accord with me on my position upon the "'President Gompers informed the members of the executive subject of the unwisdom of trying to make strikes unlawful. council that an amendment offered by Representative Keating, "'I should add that when I made my protest I also said: providing that no part of the Lever bill should annul sections "Gentlemen, I am not going to embellish what I am going to 6 and 20 of the Clnyton law, was defeated. President Gompers present to you or say an unnecessary word, nor am I going to stated he believes that the amendment could be adopted in the argue it. I am merely presenting to you my protest, my appre­ Senate. It was decided that President Gompers draft a state­ hension, in as concise and plain a manner as I possibly can.'' ' ment upon the amendment to be used to secure its adoption by "The sam·e day-August 6, 1917-I had a telephone conversa­ the Senate.' tion with Secretary of Agriculture Houston. My stenographer "A letter was sent to all Senators and Representatives urging took down my part of the talk with the Secretary, as follows: that this amendment be adopted: " ' Mr. GoMPEBS. This morning while I was in attendance at " ' Provided, That nothing in this act shall be construed to the meeting of the advisory commission Assistant Secretary of repeal, modify, or affect either section 6 or 20 of an act enqtled Labor, Mr. Post, called m€' up and he &tated that a Senato1·, "An act to supplement existing laws against unlawful restraints whose name he did not mention, had made a similar statement and monopolies, and for other purposes," approved October 15, to him in regard to the amendment of Senator Hollis-that is, 1914.' that the labor provisions of the Clayton antitrust law should "Senator Hollis presented this amendment in the Senate, and in no wise be repealed by reason of the enactment of the food it was adopted. When the bill went to conference it was stricken bill, and the Senator wanted to know my understanding and out. August 6, 1917, Senator Hollis called the attention of the judgment upon the question. Senate to the

of the rights of the working people, and that there will be some the United States was quoted correctly wllen the claim was eon iderable feeling on account of it. However, that since the made that be had indorsed the statement of Attorney General Supreme Court of. the United States, in a recent decision, had Gregory by saying: declared that no private individual or corporation could bring "'That after all prosecution under the bill when it becomes suit under the Sherman .antitru t law, that it would devolve law will depend upon the district attorneys, and that instruc­ upon the GoYernment if the Senator would make some such tions could go forward and would from the Attorney General's utterance in the Senate and base it upon the decision of the office to the ·various district attorneys. in tructing them not to Supreme Court. I think it would be all right. In my judgment, bring cases against workmen in contra-venti-on to the pro-vi ions of course, the needs of t.he -country at the time require that the of the Clayton l.a.w.' food bill be passed and I shall not say a word about it.' " During the debate in the Senate August 8 the following "The next day, August 7, 1917, I had t\YO telephone talks with dialogue took pla£e (CoNG.RESSION.A.L RECORD, p. <3481) : Secretary of Labor Wilson, who called me up, one of them giving " '1\Ir. Bu TING. * * "' I voted for the Hollis amendment in detail a conference with President 'Vilson. Afterwards, on to the blll, which provided that the prir hands as to what construction wouJd :be pluced upon dent early this morning, and he bad made arrangements for that it hy them in the event that it became a law in its pre~ent form. purpose; that he would call me up after the -conference with the " ' I am authorized by the Secretary of Labor, Mr. Wilson, to President. At 1.15 this afternoon Secretary Wilson called me say that the administration dO('S not construe this bill as pro­ up and s:tated that he had had the interview with the President hibitin"' strikes and peaceful picketing and will not so construe .and brought the matter to his attention. The President said the bill and that the Department of Justice docs not so con­ that perhaps the language <>f the bill might be so construed as I strue the bill and will not o construe the bill! stated to the Secretary of Labor, 1\fr. Wilson, and belieYed by him, but that yet it was with those who were handling products * * * • • rather than those who were engaged in their production or dis­ " 'Mr. REED. WiH the Senator then say to us why the amend­ tribution in the form of labor; that the situation with food ment, which would 1laYe removed any nece ·ity for con truction products of the country was such that millions wet~ being taken or any doubt, was stricken out'? .from the people every day unnecessarily and improperly, al­ "'Mr. BUSTING. I can not an wer that question with au­ though there is not now a law to prevent it or to regulate it i thority, but I understand it wn.s stricken out because it was not that the need for the food administration law is imperative, thought necessary or essential ; that it had no e.ffect whatever. anut. I understand, upon the argument that it conld not be known as the Hollis amendment would delay the enactment legally be construed in that way and that it was surplusage or of this, play into the hands of the speculators and exploiters, redundancy. that after all the prosecution under the bill when it becomes "• Mr. REED. Ha the Senator talked wltll the Attorney law will depend upon the district attorneys, and that instruc­ General? tions could go forward and would from the Attorney Gene:r:al's "• Ir. BuSTING. I will sar that I have not. I ha>e not talked office to the various district attorneys, instructing them not to with the Attorney General. However, I can say that the Secre­ bring cases against workmen in contravention to the provisions tary of Labor a-dvised me that this was the opinion of the of the Clayton law; that he believed it would be a wise thing administration and the Department of Justice. He did not to have the Hollis amendment presented and passed by the Con­ give it merely as a matter of belief on his part, but said that he gress as a separate measure after the food administration bill was authorized to so state. has been passed and become law. "' 1\fr. REED. Now, may I ask one further question~ Suppose ~· ' I asked the Secretary whether we can count upon the as­ that a complaint should be filed in a court of the United States sistance of the President in furtherance of such .a bill. He said charging a violation of this act and that the case was lodged in that the Presidellt would assist. Secretary Wilson then asked court and the judge of the court slwul the country that the Attorney Gener:il has tration bill, and I said that I would. stated that under such circumstances as that be \\-'Duld nullify " At 1.45 the Secretary called me up over tbe phone and the law and undertake to control the rotut? stated that be was called up by Senator Busting in regard to "' 1\Ir. BusTING. 1\Ir. President, I can not say anything fur­ the provisions of the food bill and the provisions in the bill ther than what I have already said. I do not presume any whjcb would make strikes unlawful. The Secretary stated he United States district attorney will prosecute any person under had. talked with me and he had nn interview with tbe President. this law contrary to the interpretation placed upon the law itself and the Senator -expressed the view th~t he did not believe that by a superior ()fficer. the bill, when enacted, could be interpreted to apply to strikes " '1\fr, LEWis. * * * I am advised * * * that the pro­ of workmen, but that in any event the situation was such that visions we placed in the Federal Tt'ftde Coillluis ion act in the the speculators had gotten ahead of the Government; that he closing days of its consideration ~' * * to the effect that believed it would be best for the bill to be .enacted a it now there shall not be pro ecution of farmers' rorganizations ror stands and immediately pushed for passage, consisting of Sen­ members thereof or of labor organizations or members thereof ator Hollis's amendment. The Secretary told Senator Busting for a.ny of the a.ets to which we particularly addrMsed our elves of the result of the talk with the President and with me, and as criminal concerning commercial bodies, would exclude tlte that he believed that all objections would be removed to the prosecutions of which the Senator from New Hampshil'e had pa age of the bill, and he said he had already told him I would such a sincere fear. place no obstacle in the way of the passage of the bill with " '.Mr. BusTING. 1\Ir. Presiden~ that is my belief, I will say that assurance. He asked me whether that statement was cor­ to the distinguished Senator from Illinoi ; that is my new of rect, as be had made tQ Senator Busting, and I informed him · it; and not only is it my Yiew .but, as I snid before, it is the that it was.' vi~ ()f the adminisb.·ation, an{l I am advised is also the view "A. conference held with Attorney General Gregory by Secre­ Qf~e Department of Justice and of every eminent and able tary Morrison and me brought f-orth the same 1nformation. The attorn-ey on the fl-oor! · Attor~y General said that he would write the district attorneys "That a promise had been made that a separate bill embody­ not to construe section 4 as interfering in any way with the ing the amendment that the law huuld not 'Jll()dify or amend normal acthities of labor. or repeal the Clayton Act ' is established in the folluwi.ng tate­ " The telephone talks between Secretary of Labor Wilson and ment made in the Senate August 8 (I>. G-182, CoNGRESSIONAL me were corroborated effectively August 8 when Senator Bust­ RECORD): ing, with whom the Secretary had conversed, told of the state­ "' l\Ir. BusTING. * * * But it appears here from the de­ ment made by the latter. Senator Busting's statement later in bate that many Senators have tak{'n the-view thnt thi mea. ure the Senate August 8 also clinches the fact that the President of does not modify or amend or repeal the Clayton Act. So the 1919. CONGR.ESSIONAL R.ECORD-.SENATE. 43

action of many Senators and their votes will be based upon the strikes illegal. In the United States we have defeated every assumption that it does not so modify, amend, or repeal that proposition to make strikes illegal, and yet we are getting re­ act, and the fact that others do think so will have no other sults for our people, and we are giving voluntary service.' effect than to put their opinion against the opinion of those who "A .few weeks after the enactment of the Lever bill, in the believe othenrise. f.< * * If there is any division of opinion convention of the American Federation of Labor held at Buffnlo, here upon the question of -n·hat effect this proposed legislation N. Y., in November, 1917, the convention which the President of will have on the antitrust laws, let a bill be introduced embody­ the United States addressed, the executive council of our feder­ ing the Hollis amendment, and let it go through both Houses, ation, in submitting its report upon the question of the high as I think it will without much opposition. Then all uncer­ cost of living and the Lever Act, among other things, said: tainty will be swept away. But notwithstanding that this bill " 'Aethe convention. of the American Federation of is not exactly as I would have it if I had the writing of it, it is Labor, 1016, there were several resolutions introduced and necessary to pass this bill at once.' adopted by the convention, directing that efforts be made by the "While the discussion over the Hollis amendment was at its officers of the federation to secure t11e passage of legislation height the Supreme Court gaYe an opinion in the case of the which would insure relief from the high cost of living. These . " Paine Lumber Co. against Neal. It was held by the court that resolutions specifically demanded the creation of a Federal com­ private individuals could not institute legal proceedings under mission empowered to investigate all phases of the subject and antitrust legislation. This encouraged the officials of labor in recommen·d to Congress measures designed to remedy the ab­ the belief that the striking out of the Hollis amendment would normal conditions brought about since the inauguration of the not work to the injury of labor, as only the Government could ·world War, and also to prevent a recurrence of similar condi- . institute prosecutions, and the Government had given assurance tions in the future. it would not. And, a~ the President and the Attorney General " ' Other resolutions were passed the intent of which was to of the United States had saiu there woulU be no prosecutions secure legislation authorizing an embargo upon the exportation by the Department of Justice, labor felt safe. This feeling was of foodstuffs with a view to lessening prices in this country. expressed by me in a telegram to Ernest Bohm, secretary of the The executive council at its January meeting had these resolu­ Central Federated Union of New York, who had asked for i,n­ tions under consideration and directed President Gompers to formatiou regarding the antistrike clause. The telegram said: carry into effect, so far as possible, the purport of the com·en- " 'W.A.SHINGTON, D. C., August 9, 1911. tion action. · " 'American li'ederation of Labor did not delay passage of "'In accordance with the adoption of the resolution directing Food Administration measure for following reasons: Under the the executive committee of the American Federation of Labor interpretation of United States Supreme Court in the case of to secure a Federal commission to investigate all phases of the the Paine Lumber Co. against United Brotherhood of Car­ subject, our efforts were directed in assisting to secure the pas­ penters it was held that private individuals could not institute sage of H. R. 4188, known as the food-survey bill, which passed legal pr0ceedings under antitrust legislation. Only the Gov­ Congress and became a law August 10, 1917. ernment could take action. Sundry civil appropriation laws "'Upon the designation by the President of Herbert C. Hoover contain provisions that no appropriation for judiciary can be as Food Administrator, a conference was called at the American used to prosecute labor organizations under antitrust legisla­ Federation of Labor Building of representatives of the labor tion. High authority has given assurance that section 4 of organizations having their headquarters in Washington, to­ Food Administration act would not be interpreted to apply to gether with the representatives of the railroad brotherhoods normal and necessary activities of trade-unions. The proviso and members of the labor group in Congress, as well as a num- , suggested by American Federation of Labor that section 4 ber of sympathetic Congressmen. Mr. Hoover was invited to at­ should not be interpreted to repeal labor sections of the Clay­ tend. At this meeting l\1r. Hoover outlined his plans to meet the ton .Ailtitrust Act will be introduced in Senate as a separate situation and urged that the American Federation of Labor give measure. This course has the approval of President Wilson, its support to the Lever bill, H. R. 4961, known as the food­ who '"ill assist toward the enactment of proposed measure.' control bill. "It thus will be seen that every avenue of information gave "'The federation gave its full support to the principles in­ most emphatic assurances that trade-union normal activities volved in this legislation, but suggested that the provision which would not be a violation of section 4. The promise to present said " That any person who conspires, combines, agrees, or ar­ a separate measure in the Senate providing that section 4 did ranges with any other person to limit the facilities for transport­ not repeal the labor sections of the Clayton Act also had great ing, producing, manufacturing, supplying, storing, or dealing influence in the decision of the labor officials to cease efforts in any necessaries ; to restrict the supply of any necessaries ; to for the amendment and give their whole attention to urging the restrict the distribution of any necessaries; to prevent, limit, or passage of the Lever food-control bill. lessen the manufacture or production of any necessaries in order to enhance the price thereof, shall upon conviction thereof be "Besides, letters from Congressmen were being received daily. fined not exceeding $10,000, or be imprisoned not more than two These were all favorable to the contention of labor. One of the years, or both," be added to by the incorporation of an amend­ many that were significant was from Representative SYDNEY ment declaring that the intent of this section was not to repeal A~·mERsoN, member of the Committee on Agriculture, which any of the labor provisions of the Clayton law. It was feared prepared the bill. He said : that the language of this section might be construed to make it "'It was, of course, never intended that any provision in the unlawful for workmen engaged in food transportation and pro­ Lever bill should so operate as to repeal any part of the Clayton duction to strike. Act, and it was the opinion of those who drew the bill that it "'.An amendment was introduced for the purpose of safeguard­ would not so operate.' ing labor's interests in accordance with the above suggestion, "RepresentatiYe .JosHuA W. ALEXANDER. chairman of the and while Mr. Hoover stated that the section was not intended Committee on the Merchant l\larine and Fisheries, in answer to prevent workmen from ceasing work, yet acquiesced in the said: amendment proposed and rendered valuable assistance in an "'As I reau the bill there is nothing in it which is in conflict effort to secure its adoption. Upon our failure to secure the with the provision mentioned in your letter. That was the opin­ adoption of this amendment, the matter was taken up through ion of the House at the time the bill was under consideration, the advisory commission of the Council of National Defense. and for that reason the Keating amendment was defeated.' The Attorney General concurred in the view that the section " The assurances of the President of the United States through was not intended to restrict the right of workmen to strike. Secretary of Labor Wilson, Attorney General Gregory, the As a further precaution, an arrangement was made whereby Council of National Defense, Food Administrator Hoover, Rep­ the Attorney General was to communicate with all of the attor­ resentative LeYer, and others were accepted as conclusive. neys representing the Government, informing them of his opin­ They had all been corroborated in Senate speeches by Senators ion and directing that no action be instituted r..gainst workmen Husting, CHA)IRERLAIN, Hollis, and others. Labor ceased to engaged in the industries referred to for ceasing to perform tnsist that the bill should be amended and worked whole labor. heartedly for the passage of the measure. Not a doubt existed "'During the period that the food-control bill was being con­ that the assurances of the Government officials would be car­ sidered by the administration the United States Supreme Court ried out. rendered its decision in the case of the Paine Lumber Co. "On Sunday afternoon, September 22, 1018, I delivered an against United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners, in which address before the Trades Council of London, England. During the court decided that the conspiracy clauses of the Sherman the course of that address, referring to the strike of the London law could not be made operative by a private party suing for policemen which was then on, I said : an injunction against another private party or by one corpora­ " ' I am not criticizing the strikes. I am merely calling at­ tion against another corporation. The remedy for such a per~ tention to the fact that here you have a law making such son or corporation is to apply to the Attorney General of the

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• United States un.d have him l:pstitute a suit for injunction or the need for tbei.r service was rkingmen, who with their families now fa.ce a long, hard ~improve working conditions under the general chal'ge ot con­ winter with no reserves of co 1, largely becau e you have in­ 'm>iracy or restraint of trade under tb.e Sherman Act, we felt do.I:Sed a stri~e which youl" Go-r~rnm nt had cou.cle neu as :that our position was sufficiently safe not to press further tor 'unlawful.' ~imilar legislation in the food-control bill.' · " I may be pre:iudiced. If so, it is unconscious; yet I have "At that same convention the President of tbe United States never been able to con true sections 6 ll.lld 20 ot the Clayton delivered an address in wJllch be said : Antitrust A.ct as much more than declaratory of existing law. " ' W.b.ile we are figbting for freedom we must see, among Each confines Immunity to. legitimate acts and cQoduct, while other things, that labor is free, and that means a number of sectio:n. 20 merely recites the- equity la.w of injunctions as it has interesting things. It mea:os not only that we must do wb.at exi ted for centurie But in practice they have operated in we have declared our purpose te> do, see that the conditions of barmony with your contentions until now. It i not surprising, labor are not rendered more onerous by the war, ].}u,t also· that therefore, that the experiences of fiv eventlul years have con­ .we shall see to it that tne instrumentalities by whieb the vinced you of the e:x:emption of org, o.ize

and memoTanda which yo.u made of tbetn1 telegrams, speeche.s.. itself and its dedared purpose is not such a con::lpiracy, then etc., are correctly set fot·th thereiu. rol' do l for a moment word have cea ed to. mean anything and human conduct mu t questiou that the coutli.cting announcements of your elf and be measured by otber- standards than human exprutence. It pro· !Ql'mer Attorney General Gregory are tbe sincere statemeuts pose to force a "'e-noral wage scale, accompanied by diminution of two perfectly earnest and candid men, ea.cll of w~om is a · quatntixlg tlle publie with his recollection of an important fact. umel', or GoverBment. Becau of it men, women, and children .It is also equally evident to me that you acquiesced in the rejec.- may freeze, the lines of communicatron su pended, production 1tion of your p.rovo.sed amen

1nent, and will . upport bi efforts at pl'Otecti-o with an their their best tQo get into their baoos the whollence, assa.nlt, and mm·der. Without for all by the contest &f 1861. th-e pt·oteetion or their Government, the industry ii.s sb.spende.d. " The one sei'ious chanenge to this a sertion i that it denies rt is a bn.sie oo-e, .a.rHl tllat spells the 11lt:i.lrul.te suspension of all ("iependent industries.. Idlenes , nonprodncti , fo"O<.\ and fuel by desh"QSing the right to stl'ike, thu depriving the wa~e seareity, suffering3 t.:'U''rntion, riot, .Lawiessness+ and demoraliza­ earner of his most effici(lllt weapon f9C the ~forcement <>f' his just c..lemands. This contention has been made so -eonstantly tion Nation wide in extent are the ine¥itab1e consequence. It and accepted so "Widely that it has become an axiom with organ­ These affect us nil, ererywhere. has become too Nation's ized labor a.nU naturnlly confuses the existence of n right with busin . Lt is its most in istent business. It will be effectu­ its improper exercise. But in common with the right of free ally attended to whate er tbe .cost and however we may differ speech, freedom a-f conseience, liberty, and even o-f' life it elf, regarding congressional discussions and departmental assur­ am~es. it essential limitati-ons exist ana must be respected. Only S6 can the right surn\e. "l\leantime all, I trust, "\Till perceive in the pending strike "What is the right of strike? If it means the rigbt of men the futility of industrial ~·arfare. It is expensive, destructive. to f}11.it p-rivate employment i.niiividually or rollectivelyJ every estranging. Only by Tee<>gniz1ng our reciprocal rights, duties, one will concede it. No mR.D can be llln{le to W.(Jl"k against his and obligations, and tbe essential of every -element of society will in free America, except h.e becomes a Tagrant or a convict. and economics to the whole, by the aeknowledgment of our But the right to quit work essentially i!rr{)lves .the correspond­ mutual def)eooence and its resulting sympatby2 by the humane ing rio-bt to continue nt work, and one i just as sacred as the and ccrdial-eoo_peration -of empl-oyei"', employee, manager, farmer, other."' Government should not deny or diminish either. It capitalist, and ruler fo-r the eo-mmon good ean we solT"e the sh~uld, if need be, sustain men in the ae.roise of both. Upon unhappy and ueep-seated prol>lems now surrounding us and this proposition I think we agree. maintain O'l:lf' high position in the civilized world. When pa - " But beyond this point the di-.;ergence begins.. The mere l'igh.t sion, elaes .antagonism • nnd selfishness gi'Ve way to the convic­ to quit working does not define the {).rganized wage earner's tion that industrial '\\ar, whatever the immediate resnlt, me:.:ms conception of a strlli.e. That is purely negative and accom­ mutnal disaster, tbe sober eommon sense and enlightened jndg­ plishes nothing. "Wlln.t he understands and what he has been ment -of the co-mmon people will J)€'8cerfuily but effectually taught to understand by his leaders, by political parties, and solve onr .Qi.tfietl'lties and tide us over all domestie crises candidates anxious for his vote, is that tne strike is .a weapon Civilization is not a creation but an evolutio11. It is the fruit which he lias the right to w1eld offensively or defensively in of spanta1':loous cooperation C()lltinuing through centuries. Tio­ order to effectuate the purpo e for which he in-.;o.kes it. He may, Ienee eR"'l d€stroy b-t1t ean not promote it. Thrift and protlue­ in pursuance o.f it, disregard contracts compel others to strike, titm are its corneo:r stones. I trust tbe minds and eonsctenc" s of prevent .othel's from t aking his place and continuing operations; all me-n may swiftly pereei-.;e these frmdamerrtnl trt1ths3 compose be may destroy property and ten-oriz:e communities if by Going 'their dift'eJ"enees, snd begin the old life anew. these tbings or any of them he may 11eeomplish his object, eveu "Very respectfully, etc., though it may rise to the dignity of a conspiracy against trade. " C. S. THOMAS. "'He does not, it is 1.rue, openly avow his right to go so far " Eou. SAMUEL GoMrEr.s~ as this, but in IJractice they featnre every prolonged str-ike of any "Pre8"ule'lll..t Amert(l(m Federation of Labor, magnitude. "1Vashington, D.{)." " The "\¥"01'<1 it elf implies force ; violence lurk within it. Aggression is its synonym. Henry George himself a trade­ LETTER FROM HON. WILLIAM A. CLA..RK. unionist than \Yhom labor had no better friend nor abler ellam­ Mr. :liYERS.. !llr. Pre. ident, I have a. letter from Bon. Wil­ pion, thus .characterized the strike in a letter to Pope Leo XIII : · liam A. CL'U·k, of l\lontaua, a fo1·mer l\Iemhe-r of this body, writ­ '.Aiming at tbe restriction of competition-the limitation of the ten in reply to some &ru·ges made against some copper com­ right to labor-its methods are lik-e those of the army, which panies mth which he is connected and other copper compmties, even in a righteous cause are subversive of liberty and linhle growing o.ut o.f certain txansactions during the war with Ger­ to abuse while its -weapon, the trike, is destructive in its many. These cha1·ges were maue by a ·®committee of a nature both to ('Ombatants and noncombatants.' * ·~ * committee of the House of Rep-rese.ntatiT'eS, nnd I ub.licity has • Labor associa-tions can do nothing to raise wages but by force. been given them by a report of the subcommittee. I am !';at.is­ It may be force applied pa ~ slvely o.r focce applied actively or fied there is nothing to the charges and that they are unfounded. force held in reseFe, but it must be force. They must cnerce Senator Clark's letter completely refutes them, and, a.s he is a or hold the power to coerce employer ; they must coerce those forme1· l\Iember of this ·body, I ask a a courtesy to him that his among their own members disposed to straggle; tbey must oo letter, herewith IJresented, be printed in the RECORD. 46 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. DECEl\IBER 2'

There being no objection, the letter was oruereu to be printed having been returned by him to the House of Congress in which in the RECORD, as follows : it originated within the time prescribed by the Constitution of NEW YORK, November 20, 1!J19. the United States, has become a law without his approval: llon. ilEXRY L. MYERS, United States Senate, Washington, D. C. On November 6, 1919 : · l\lY DEAR SE~UTOR: '£here was recently filed a report by the House S. 2883. An act authorizing the Meridian Highway Bridge Co., Committee on Expenditures in the War Department, of which the fol­ a corporation, to construct and maintain a bridge or bridges and lowing statem~nt was published with reference to the matter: approaches thereto across the Missouri River between Yankton " Evidence indicating fraud involving millions of dollars in settle­ ment of eight big war contracts of the War Department have been County, S. Dak., and Cedar County, Nebr. found by the House Committee on Expenditures in the War Depart­ HOUSE BILLS REFERRED. ment," etc. Also, in the same dispatch, reference was made to the United Metals The following bills were severally read twice by their titles ~elling Co., in which it was charged that salvage values were fixed by and referreu to the Committee on Public Lands: ~ vvernment agents and Army officers on special facilities furnished by H. R. 348. An act to add certain lands to the Ocboco National : ~1 e Government, sometimes buildings and sometimes machinery and equipment, which were, in the opinion of the committee, insufficient Forest, Oreg. ; and unjust to the Government. H. R. 2946. An act to amend acts to permit the use of the It states also tnat in the case of the United Metals Selling Co. im­ mense profits were made by the producers of copper by virtue of a right of way through the public lands for tramroads, canals, combination of the low-price copper producers, which combination was and reservoirs, and for other purposes ; aided and encouraged by the Government, although in violation of law. H. R. 4311. An act to authorize the adilition of certain lands The report states that in some of the cases cited the committee was of the opirion that constructive, if not actual, fraud occurred, and to the Caribou National Forest; and that millions of C:ollars were involved in the settlements made which H. R. 8028. An act to add to the Oregon, Siuslaw, and Crater the Government should recover if a proper investigation should be National Forests, in Oregon, certain lands that were revested made. It was not the United Metals Selling Co. alone that was interested, in the United States pursuant to the decision of the Supreme but all of the large copper producers, including the companies which I Court of the United Stutes in the case of the Oregon & Califor­ control, which were parties to the discussion with the Government nia Railroad Co. against the United States, and for other pur­ agents as to the best manner to pursue in getting rid of the Govern­ poses. mr.mt excess of copper, which was estima~~ to be about 200,000,000 pounds. H. R. 8992. An act for the construction of a bridge across the If the Government had contracted to sell this copper on the market, Susquehanna River at Lacey,ille, Wyoming County, Pa., was it would have resulted in a great depression in prices. Therefore an arrangement by all of the copper producers with the ·Government read tvi'ice by its title and referred to the Committee on Com­ agents was consummated, to the effect that the copper producers would merce. absorb the Government surplus at the rate of 5,000,000 pounds per H. R. 9183. An act authorizing the Secretary of the Treasury month f~r a period of 10 montco and 10,000,000 pounds per month for to adjust the terms of the contract for the sale of the old post­ the subsequent 5 months. The price to be paid the Government was to be the average price at office property in New Haven, Conn., was read twice by its title which copper was sold during each month, when a settlement should and referred to the Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds. be made. In this way the Government received the average price of copper and thereby avoided a great loss, which would have certainly SEDITIOUS AC'fS AND UTTERaNCES. resulted if they had attempted to sell the copper in any other manner. There was•no profit whatever to the producers of copper, but they were 1\Ir. STERLING. I ask unanimous consent that the Senate willing to render assistance to the Govemment in helping it dispose of proceed to the consideration of Senate bill 3317. its stock without injury to the parties engaged in this great industry. The VICE PRESIDENT. Is there any objection? At the solicitation of both the Government and the copper producers, the United Metals Selling Co. undertook to represent both parties to 1\Ir. NORRIS. 1\Ir. President, I desire to reserve the right to the contract in attending to all of the details connected with the sales object. I would like to know what the bill is. and payment to the Government, and this was done without any com­ 1\Ir. STERLING. The bill is entitled "An act to prohibit and pensation or profit to the United Metals Selling Co. You will thus observe that an injustice has been done to this com­ punish certain seditious acts against the Government of the pany, and i.n case the matter should be further discussed in Congress United States anu to prohibit the use of the mails for the pur­ I would be very glad if you would endeavor to set the matter right. pose of promoting such acts." Yours, sincerely, w. A. CLARK. 1\Ir. JONES of Washington. Will the Senator withhold that just a moment that I may submit a report from the Committee PRESIDE~TIAL .APPRO\'ALS. on Commerce on H. R. 6857, to authorize the change of name of A message from the President of the United States, by l\lr. a steamer? Sharkey, one of his secretaries, announced that the President Mr. STERLING. If it will lead to no discussion, I will yield. had approved and signed the following acts: 1\Ir. JONES of \Vushington. I want to ask unanimous consent On November 19, 1919 : to pass the bill, but I think it will lead to no discussion. It is S. 681. An act to amend an act approYed l\larch 4, 1913, en­ recommended by the department. titled "An act to increase the limit of cost of certain public l\Ir. STERLING. I yield for that purpose. builuings, to authorize the enlargement, extension, remodeling, or improvement of certain public buildings, to authorize the CHANGE OF NAME OF STEAMER. erection and completion of public buildings, to authorize the 1\Ir. JONES of Washington. I report buck favorably with­ purchase of sites for public buildings, and for other purposes"; out amendment from the Committee on Commerce the bill (H. R. S. 1373. An act to amend the Articles of War; 6857) to authorize the change of the name of the steamer s. 2494. An act to transfer the tract of lund known as the Charlotte Graveraet Breitunu to "T. K. 1\Iuher; " and I submit a lighthouse reservation, at North Point, 1\Id., from the jurisdic­ report thereon {Rept. 314). I ask unanimous consent fot· its tion of the Department of Commerce to the jurisdiction of the present consideration. 'Var Department; The PRESIDING OFFICER {1\Ir. SwANSON in the chair). Is S. 2495. An act transferring the tract of land known as there objection to the present consideration of the bill? Craney Island from the jurisdiction of the War Department There being Ilo objection, the bill was considereu as in Com­ to the jurisdiction of the •rreasury Department, and transferring mittee of the \Vhole, and it was rend, as follows: the tract of land known as Fishermans Island from the jurisdic­ Be it enacted, etc., That the Commissioner of Navigation is hereby au­ tion of the Treasury Department to the jurisdiction of the thorized and directed, upon the application of the owner, the Morrow Steamship Co., of Mentor, Lake County, Ohio, to change the name of War Department; the steamer Charlotte Grat:eract B1·eitung, official number 27,GG5, to the S. 3159. An act to authorize the State road department of the "T. K. Maher." State of Florirce or vlolence, or by physical injury to rng pM"soll Ol' pr~rty -of the Govet"llntent of the United States or of nU hanng his nmteti..al, his prtnted nm.tter., ~ssM UP<>n without government, or to advise or advocate a cll · e in fhe ffG"rn1 of 'g"<>•.Crn'• any opportunity of being heard at all, .and it pla·ces ttle POSt­ memrt, hil:l.d.e1·, or delay the e.:xercotion of .auy .law of the my exp·e:r-lenoe goes, in a position of ·deciding what shall be mail­ Unitc:d States. able or nonmailable and how the party ated or a.-dviS{>d the use o! arriYed, the Chair lays before the Senate the unfinished business, rorce -or l"iolence -or pbygi.cal 'injury t-o or the eizm:e or d-estruction ~f which willt;e &ated. persons or property as a means tow:ard the accomplishment of economic, industrial, or political changes, is hereby de-clared to ·be nonmailable The SECRETA.ltY. A bill '('S. 3288) to reguiate commerc-e among and the same shall llOt be conveyed in the maUs ar delivered fr~ any the States ami with i'Qreign uati'ons nncl to amerrd an act enti­ post office or by any letter carrier : Pt·owle.d, That nothing in this act tled "An act to regulate oommeree," ap'Pro'Ved Febrnai'S' 4, ball be so construed as to anth'Orize any person other than an employee 1887, as am-endetl. o! the De d Lett-er Office -duly n.nlhorizt'd 'thereto or other pe-r.son upon a search warra.nt n.nthorized by la.w to 0pen any letter not addressed Mr. S'TERLING. ?!Ir. Pr~itrent-- - to trlmsell. The PllESID!NG 'Oll'Fro~R Does the Senato't fi•oru Iua'ho .EC. 4. That it s1l!lll be 1.mlawful to impm.-t or caus-e te be im19erted yield the floor? into the United -state -or any !Place subject to its jurisdiction 13Jl.Y -matter declared by section 3 of this act to be nonmaUable or to transport 'Or 1\Ir. 'BOR.AR. i do not -d-esire to tnke fm·ther time if t'be· Sena­ cause to be transported any such matter from one State to .anothe:r or tor fi'om Iowtt tMr. Ou~rMINS] wishes to p'l"oceed wit'h t'he cnn­ inlto any place subject to the jyrlsdictwn of 'the United Stat-es. sidera'tioo. 'Of um 'in SEc. 5. That whoever shall use or attempt to use the mails ror the th·e railToad bill. I not position, ho'\\e,yer, Postal Service -of the United States for the tl~Rnsmi'SSion of amy matter to consent to the pa sage of the particuJ:ar mea-sure whi-ch bas tleclnred by section 3 ot this act to be nollll'laUable or wbo snail violate been under con-sideration tritbout same 1\rrlhet- ill cuss'ion. 11.ny other of the pr<>visions 'e1'mit me--- The PRESIDlNG OFFICEll~ Forty-nine Senators ha-ring an-I 1\lr. cmnfl.t.,S. I yield trgaln. swered to their names, .a qoorum is present Mr. ·ST.ERLli"fG. l should like to a~k what will be the status Mr. BORAH. 1\Ir. President, as I undet· tnnd, the subject of the bill which has been under 'discussion? WiU it be in the m-atter before the Senate is Calenda1· No. 236, Senate bill3317~ Senate? The PRESIDING OFFICER. Th3.t bill has been considered The PRESIDING OFFICER. The bill has reached the Sen­ in Oom.mittee of the Whole, amended, and reported to the ate and the amendment has been concurred in. It goes to tb-e Senate. l\Ir. BOR..iH. l.Iay I ask the Secretary to state the amend­ calendar and when ca:lled up -again will be in t'he Senate exactly ~s it \VUS when the unfinished busmess was laid before the ment? Senate. The SECRETARY. On pa O'e 1, line 8, after the word ",property," Mr. BORAH. I unda·stand it is amendable ln the S~nate! in. ert a comma. The PRESIDING OFFICER. Amendments may be made in l\lr. .BORAH. That is a. .-ery .-ital amendment. Section 3 of the bill reads as follows : the Senate. That every document, boo!;:, circular, paper, journni, or -otber written RAILROAD CO~'!R'OL. or printed communication in or by which there is adv<>ca.ted or .advised 1:he overthrow by force or violence or by pbysical illjury to J>el'son 4r j The Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, proceeded to 'Con­ property -ol the ~ver.nment of the United States or of all g6vern.ment, , sider the bill (S. 3288) to r~"1llate -comm-erce among ilie States or in or by which there is advocated or advised the 11se of force ar 1 and with forejgn nations and to amend an act entitled "An net Tiolence or _physical illjm·y to or the seiriure or destruction of persons ror to ~lat~ property 11:s a means toward 'the accomJ>lishment of economic, industrial, commerce;" approved Februaty '4, 1887, as amended. or political chang~ is hereby declared t'O be nonmailable and the r for a few minutes, by any letter carder: P-rot;i.ded, That nothing in this act shall be so construed as to authorize any person other than a.n employee of the 1\Ir. KELI,OGG. Ml\ President-- Dead Letter Office duly authorized thereto or other per~on upon a seareh Tne PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. McKELLAR in the chair). warrant authorize(] by law to open any letter not addressed to himself. Does the Sen~t<>l" 'from Iowa yield to tbe Senator from Minne­ l\1r. President, we ba-re been authorizing the P-ostmaster Gerr sota? eral to exclude from the mails certain printed material from Mr. CUl\fi\IINS. I yield to the S-enatQr. time to time until we have established a complete -consorship in :Mr. KELLOGG. It seems to me a bill -of the importance of the Post Office Department. Of <.'Qurse, what I hav-e to say in this one snould be 'Considered when mor:e than 8 or 10 Senat1}rs objection to such a program has no reference to the person who are present. I ·doabt if ~nators 'knew that the 'Chairman of the holds the position of Postmaster General Qr who may hold that committee was going t'O discuss the biB.. I the-refo-1-e suggest the of&e in the future. It is based upon a princlple that has noth· absence of n. quorum. 48 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. DECEJ\IBER 2'

The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Secretary will call the rolL trol-which carries with it no civil-service requirement, and The Secretary called the roll, and the following Senators an­ there are other objections to it, so that the committee thought it swered to tlH!ir names : would be better to look it over. Bankhead Frelinghuysen Moses Stanley 1\Ir. GARRETT. Was the original bill unanimously reported? Borah Hale Newberry Sterling Calder Harris Norris Swanson l\fr. JOHNSON of Washington. I think it was. Capper Johnson, Calif. Nugent Thomas l\1r. RAKER. I will say to the gentleman that it was. Chamberlain Jones, Wash. Page Townsend 1\Ir. SAB.A.TH. There was no minority report on the bill. Colt Kellogg Phipps Wadsworth Cummins Keyes Reed Walsh, Mont. l\fr. RAKER. When the vote was taken on reporting the bill Curtis King Sheppard Watson there was no vote against reporting it. It was a unanimous Dial La Follette Simmons Williams vote. Edge Lodge Smith, Md. Wolcott France McKellar Smoot Mr. JOHNSON of Washington. The request for recommitting The PRESIDING OFFICER. Forty-three Senators are pres­ the bill is unanimous except for 1 vote. We hope the bill ent-not a quorum. The Secretary will call the roll of the may be back on the calendar within a very few days. absentees. Mr. GARRETT. Who is objecting to it? The Secretary called the names of the absent Senators, and l\1r. JOHNSON of Washington. The only objection comes from the gentleman from Texas [l\!r. Box], and I am sure he 1\Ir. BALL, M.r. FALL, Mr. FLETCHEU, Mr. GAY, Mr. PITTMAN, bas no objectio.n to my so stating. l\1r. SUTHERLAND, Mr. UNDERWOOD, and l\Ir. WALSH of Massachu­ l\1r. GARRETT. For the present, I object. setts answered to their names when called. l\1r. POMERENE, Mr. HITCHCOCK, l\lr. JoHNSON of South Da­ FEDERAL IlESERVE ACT. kota, 1\lr. OvERMAN, 1\lr. FRANCE, l\Ir. ELKINS, Mr. WARREN, and Mr. PLATT. l\1r. Speaker, I desire to call up the conference Mr. CULBERSON entered the Chamber and responded to their report on the bill (S. 2472) to amend the Federal reserve act. names. The SPEAKER. The gentleman from New York calls up a 1\lr. CURTIS. I desire to announce the absence, on account conference report. Does the gentleman desire to have the con­ of illness, of the Senator from Iowa [Mr. KENYON]; the Senator ference report read? from Illinois [Mr. SHERMAN]; and the Senator from Pennsyl­ l\fr. PLATT. I ask to have the statement read in lieu of the vania [Mr. PENROSE]. report. I also desire to announce the absence of the Senator from The SPEAKER. The gentleman asks unanimous consent North Dakota [l\Ir. McCuMBER] on account of illness in his that the statement be read in lieu of the report. Is there family. I ask that these announcements may stand for the day. objection?

The PRESIDING OFFICER. Fifty-nine Senators have an­ l\1r. :rviANN of Illinois. Let the report be read. 1 swered to their names. A quorum is present. The Senator from The SPEAKER. Objection is made. The Clerk will read the Iowa [Mr. CuMMI s] will proceed. report. [l\lt·. CUMMINS resumed his speech. After having spoken, The Clerk read the conference report and statement, as with interruptions, for nearly three ho11rs be ended for the clay.] follows: Mr. CUMMINS. l\fr. President, I move that the Senate CO~FEBENCE llEPOllT. adjourn. The committee of conference on the disagreeing votes of the The motion was agreed to; and (at 5 o'clock and 5 minutes two Houses on the amendments of the House to the bill S. p. m.) the Senate adjourned until to-morrow, Wednesday, De­ 2472, having met, after full and free conference have agreed cember 3, 1919, at 12 o'clock meridian. to recommend and do recommend to their respective Houses as follows: - That the House recede from its amendment; numbered 1, 4, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. and 17. That the Senate recede from its disagreement to the amend­ TUESDAY, December 93, 1919. ments of the House numbered 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 18, 20, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, and 35, and The House met at 12 o'clock noon. agree to the same. . The Cbap_lain, Rev. Henry N. Couden, D. D., offered the fol­ Amendment numbered 14: That the Senate recede from its lowing prayer : disagreement to the amendment of the House numbered 14, Father in heaven, ever the same, increase our faith in Thee and agree to the same with amendments as follows: After the and strengthen our confidence in huma.n nature, that amid the word "such" in said amendment insert the words "general wild chaos which exists in the business, social and political life conditions as to security and such " ; and the House agree to of our Nation, patience, perseverance, fortitude shall at last the same. · establish the normal, when we learn the difference between free­ Amendment numbered 15: That the Senate recede from its dom and license, liberty and justice, truth and error. disagreement to the amendment of the House numbered 15, Comfort the sorrowing, strengthen the weak, forgive the err­ and agree to the same with an amendment as follows: After ing and hold us close to Thee in righteousness, truth, justice, the word "herein" insert a new sentence as follows: "Noth­ mercy. In His name. Amen. ing contained in this section shall be construed to prohibit the The Journal of the proceedings of yesterday was read and ap· Federal Reserve Board, under its power to prescribe rules and proYed. regulations, from limiting the aggregate amount of liabilities IMMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION. of any or all classes incurred by the corporation and outstand­ l\lr. JOHNSON of 'Vashington. l\Ir. Speaker, at the request of ing at any one time " ; and the House agree to the same. the Committee on Immigration and Naturalization I ask unani­ Amendment numbered 16: That the Senate recede from its mous consent that H. R. 10404 and the report thereon be recom­ disagreement to the amendment of the Hou e numbered 16, and mitted to the Committee on Immigration and Naturalization. agree to the same with an amendment as follows : After the The SPEAh~R. The gentleman from Washington asks unani­ words "United States" insert the words "authorized by this mous consent that th~ bill H. R. 10404 be recommitted to the section " ; also strike out the figure " G" and insert " 10 " ; and Committee on Immigration and Naturalization. Is there objec­ the House agree to the same. tion? Amendment numbered 19: That the Senate recede from its l\lr. GARD. Reserving the right to object, will the gentle­ disagreement to the amendment of the House numbered 19, and man state what it is? agree to the same with an amendment as follows: Strike out Mt·. JOHNSON of Washington. The bill is to amend sections all of the amendment except the word " but " and insert the 4, 8, and 10 of the act of June 29, 1906, as amended, relating following: " not engaged in the general business of buying or to naturalization, to provide for a division of pah·ol guard in selling goods, wares, merchandise or commodities in the United the Bureau of Immigration, and for other purposes. States, and not " ; also after the word " transacting" insert 1\Ir. GARRETT. Reserving the right to object, for what pur­ the word " any " and strike out the comma. after the words po e does the committee desire to ·have it. recommitted? "United States" and before the word "except "; and the IIou e Mr. JOHNSON of ·washington. The number of this bill is agree to the same. J0404. It is 148 on the Union Calendar, and the report on it is Amendment numbered 21: That the Senate recede from its No. 457. It deals largely with matters of naturalization. As a disagreement to the amendment of the House numbered 21, and result of inquiries made by the committee during the recess it is agree to the same with an amendment as follows: The words possible that the committee may want to change ·one or two of "except in a corporation engaged in the business of banking, the naturalization paragraphs in the bill. when 15 per cent of its capital and surplus may be invested," The pill has also one section attached to it relating to immi­ stricken out by the House, to be retained in the bill ; and the gration matters-that is, a section providing for ·a border pa- House agree to the same. 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· HOUSE. 49

Amendment numbereu 22: That the Senate recede from its Ur. PLATT. 1\lr. Speaker, I do not desire to take any great disagreement to the amendment of the House numbered 22, and amount of time in presenting this conference report. The bill a!!ree to the same with an amendment as follows: Strike out the has already been thoroughly discussed. I will, however, point w~ru " they " and insert in lieu thereof the words " it either out that the Senate conferees had pretty complete confidence directly or indirectly " ; and the House agree to the same. in the House committee and in the action of the House. Of Amendment numbered 36: That the Senate recede from its course the House committee gave the bill 'lery fu]l and com­ disagreement to the amendment of the House numbered.36, and plete study and consideration, adding many amendments, aml agree to the same with amendments as follows: Strike out the it was fuUy ai~cussed in the House. The Senate has receded on pro,iso at the end of the first paragraph, and insert a period 26 amendments, while the House h::.rs receded on only 3. On after the word " corporations "; in the first line of the third seven amendments the Senate receded with further amend­ paragraph insert after the word " institution " the words "prin­ ments. cipally engaged in foreign business " ; and the House agree to The House receded on amendment No. 1. The word" princi­ the same. pally " in line 9, page 1, comes out. It is not a matter of any EDMUND PLATT, consequence whether· it is in or not, as far as I can make out, L. T. McFADDEN, and we yielded on that, inasmuch as the Senate conferef:s PORTER H. DALE, wished us to do so. l\1ICHAEL F. PHELAN, Amendment No. 4 is with regard to the use of the word OTIS WINGO, " federal," and the prohibition of the use of the word in the Managers on the part of the Ho~cse. title of any other financial corporation of any kind, under . GEORGE P. 1\ICLEAN, penalty. \Ve receded on that amendment, because of certain CARROLL S. PAGE, objections in the Senate, and also because of some objections ROBERT L. OWEN, that were made to it in the House during the debate. I am Managers on the part of the Senate. rather sorry that amendment went out, because it seems to me that the word " federal" was a good word to put into the titles STATEME_"T. of the corporations authorized by this act, and that it ought not to be used in the title of any financial corporation unless The- managers on the part of the House at the conference on such corporation is organized under an act passed by Congress. the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on the amendments of Our attention was called to the fact that an insurance company the House to the bill (S. 2472) to amend the act approved had the words " Federal Reserve " in its title, and that they December 23, 1913, known as the Federal rt-serve act, submit were apparently used for the purpose of creating the impression the following statement in explanation of the effect of the action that it had some connection with the Federal Government or agreed upon by the conference committee and submitted in the was organized under a Federal act. I do not know that that accompanying conference report: would deceive many people. The word " federal " is used by To nearly all of the restrictions and limitations placed in the corporations now more or less. At any rate that amendment bill by the House the Senate conferees readily agreed, but in prohibiting the use of the word by outside corporations has ·been agreeing with some of them further amendments were sub­ stricken from the bill. mitted and agreed to by the House conferees, as follows: We also struck out amendment 17. It has reference to On No. 14: The right to issue debentures, undoubtedly in­ establishing agencies but not branches in the United States. cluded in the power to borrow, was clearly set forth and limited There was a good deal of discussion as to whether an agency in this amendment, which is further safeguarded by the inser­ and a branch were the same thing, and we finally struck it tion of the words " general conditions as to security and such," out, although personally I think institutions of this kind should so that the amendment as agreed to will read: "to issue deben.:. be allowed not only agencies but branches, because they are tures, bonds, and promissory notes under such general condi­ to deal with people all over the country, and there is no reason tions as to security and under such limitations as the Federal why all of them should be located in New York City or some Reserve Board may prescribe, but in no case having liabilities other seaport without branches or some means of doing business outstanding thereon exceeding 10 times its capital stock and easily with people in other parts of the country. They are not surplus." national banks in the sense of banks of deposit. They do not On No. 15: To this amendment was added a sentence further compete with other national banks. Other national banks will referring to the limiting of liabilities " of any and all classes " take stock in them and cooperate with them. Consequently I by the Federal Reserve Board. can see no objection to having such agencies wherever they are On No. 16: The addition of the words "authorized by this needed. I think they would accommodate many people. But section " in this amendment was made to conform with the the matter seemed not of great enough importance to insist restrictions upon deposits made above in the same paragraph, upon, and we yielded. and the reserve required is raised from 5 to 10 per cent. Mr. HICKS. Will the gentleman permit an inquiry? On No. 19: l\fost of the amendment inserted by the House is 1\Ir. PLATT. Yes; I yield to my colleague from Long Islmd. stricken out as unnecessary and possibly hampering to the suc­ l\fr. HICKS. By striking out this amendment will these cor- cessful operation of the financial corporations in competition porations be permitted to have correspondents outside of their with similar foreign institutions and with the great private home cities? banking firms. In certain South American countries control of 1\fr. PLATT. It will put them on the same basis with na­ trading companies through ownership of stocks is declared to be tional banks. National banks do have correspondents, and I necessary, and there are certain other countries where Ameri­ suppose the law would be construed in the same way, probably. can goods, raw materials, or machinery can not be safely solu 1\lr. HICKS. That will give them practically agencies to do on long-time credit unless a voice in the management of the prop­ whatever business they want to do outside of their own cities, erties during the period ·of the credit can be obtained. In will it not? receding from most of ihis amendment a further amendment 1\Ir. PLATT. Very likely. We have simply stricken out all was agreed to making certain that none of these subsidiary cor­ reference to it, on account of the disagreement as to the terms porations should engage in the general business of buying and that were used. I will refer to only one further amendment, selling goods in the United States. the amendment numbered 22, which is to be considered in con­ On No. 22: This amendment further strengthens the safe­ nection with No. 19. guards against attempting to control prices of commodities. Amendment numbered 19 has reference to the holding of stock On No. 36: The proviso in the taxation paragraph is stricken of other corporations, anu has been so amended in conference as out. This has reference to the taxation of shares owned by non­ to permit a finance corporation organized under this section to residents. own stock in other corporations which may be engaged in buying In the third paragraph, first line, after the word "institu­ and selling commodities outside of the United States, as well as tion," the words " principally engaged in foreign business " are stock in banking or finance corporations outside of the United inserted to prevent a national or State bank of discount and States. In \iew of this extended. power the committee decided deposit from bt-ing converted into an international banking or to strengthen the paragraph prohibiting attempted monopoly financial institution under the terms of this section. or the control or fixing of prices by inserting the word.s " directly Enuu Tn PI.ATT, or indirectly," so that no corporation organized under this act L. T. McFADDEN, could control or fix prices through stock ownership in any other PORTER H. DALE, corporation, or exercise any monopolistic control. This, of OTIS WINGO, course, has reference to the United States. MICHAEL 1!,. PHELAN, Probably the words" United States" ought to be in the amend­ Managers on the part of the House. ment, as we are not particularly concerned as to what these cor- 1 LIX--4 i50 CO GRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. DECEl\IBER 2, '------.------porations may hnvs of' tho e countries. It seemed necessar-y to give them ext nt that there ougllt to l:le- some- legjslation to exclude them th ricrht to hold stock in corporations <.Toing a bm

Lee1 Higginson & Co., ho. are not hampered'. Everything we much affecteti as the- exportatien of t-oba-cco. The tobacco man have penmitted is under the regulution of tile Federal Reserve who buys tobacco on the markets of the Carolinas to-tlay for Board. We have put in restrictions against monopol'y and ::my export, independent at the Tobacco Trust, purchases in competi­ practice that <;!Oold. be c.leemeti against good.' banking and good tion with everybodY'~ Vinien. he sells, he ships usually to Loudon finance. or Liverp ool'~ '1\Jlo~e axe the common markets. He ships, and The danger i , as I sa.ia when tb: bill Wu s u.mler debate, that it is sohl th re by. a. co~iou merchant for pounds, shillings, -we may :rtal'e p t fn b;,o many restrictions rather tl'lau too few. and pence. The n.ccount. is. rendered, and the report is made to A question has IJeen raised, I understand, by na.fionaf bank the man. whose property is beina- soid that there are £10,000, interested in export-tr ~B- financing, wbetlier in prollibiting we will say.. ty shipping documents, on York market immediately for that exchange around $4.84. TIies to wlleat, and it appli s in tremendou ~ years,. in which: nation:ll anks: are subscribers under the extent to the price that could be paitl for the wlieat of the amendment o.f' the Fedel"al r :J£t pa.._c:sed im 1916",. and some western farmer i:t it can be beugbt and' old on exchange, which of hem.J:aave become LilStitutions of consiif.erable size.. Bnt th.ey will' again bring its normui •alue iR this country. For that ru;e not ~""aged prineipally in financin"' exports on. long-tenn rea:son -we of the Banking and Ctrrrency Committee have· been pn.per~ The are not o-rganize to d!I unythlng but !L banking v ry persi tent and diligent in endea-voring to- get this measure busines on short-term va-per~ rn y on ccepta.nce~ whereas into opern.tiou at the very carliest·practical moment, and' I think th xpor finance corporation hich w h()pe wili be organr that the. bill i in a good. shape as it i possible with th ordi­ :l:zed m considerable number under fue ill when it becomes. a nary process of legislatiQrr to prepare a bill of this Itind. law "Will take mortgageff,. bonds, or se ·m:ities of that llind tha.t.. Mr: ANDERSON. 1\Ir. penk&J "ill the gentleman yield? will not matnre fo · :;t; number of years. It is onlY by tftking such The SPEAKER. The time of the gentleman from South Caro­ long-tenm papelT th t we can hope. or expect to keep our export lina has expired. trade. Since. the la.st session. ot Con!Yr uemand! sterling ex:­ 1\fr. PHELA.i"V. Ur. Speaker, F yield five minut s to th gen­ .ch:mge ha. fallen beio; , sa t.h:a.:1l the Engii._~ ponrul sterling, tleman from [1\lr. WINGO). which we used to e...~te roughly. a worth $J, is worfu anly Mr. MADDEN. 1\1 . Speaker~, before th g utleman from , 4. Exactly wh::rt holds it theTe I do not know. England is Arka:ru:m.s begin , will ne yielu for ju.::t Oil que tion? beginning to manufacture for export, howev ,. and her c1:eilit is Mr. WING . Y . good. With some. other Eurupean countries. the rates of ex­ 1\Ir. l\lADDEX~ :r wouJti Iill.e to kno~ hy the word "prin- ch.ange have gone very mU! h loweli, and al"' getting worse all ci]JaliY,.,. wn.s used in th ninth line on the first page. Is it in­ the time. Apparently they hazve. not r ched n. point where- they tended to imply by that that this 1s not to be exclusively a fOI"­ can produce eno . ,..b for tlJei1· own· people, to ay nothing ot a eign corporn.tion, but that it i a domestie corporation as well'! surplus for export. We do not claim that this bill, when it Mr. Wffi"GO. No ; the truth of IDe- matter, is-anti the gentle'­ become a law, will immedi tely stabilize rates of cxchunge or man asks a question that natmally occurs to anyone--lliat by that it will ·work any otll.er rnirae . I1i simply furnllihes what the use of ille word "princtpally " corporati.on worrM be given belie e to b us ftti maehinery :for financing fo:reibn tr::u:L , more latitude tl'l:m if we do not use that word. The EI tre trade· mOl"e e ti::rl to our own pr pert y than e~er before, recedes on that ame.ndment, and I think w w r wise- fn doing un:d mare e tial also to tbe ar-worn countri s of Europe.. that Receding OR that am ru:Iment makes til act read tba1: 1\Ir. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time, and I yi'€ld 15 these corpora1:ion are to be organiz.ed fon th purpose n­ n'linntes to tlle gentleman from :Ma a· u Us [1\l'r: PHELAN]. ga(!fug in international or for: ign ban.king or other international Mr. PHELAl...,.. Mr: Sp kelt". l i-ehl five minutes to the gen~ or for ign fin:mei peration ." W'ereeeded on th word" prirr­ tleman from South Cai'olina.. [Mr. Sl'E.VEN o_-J. ctpally," becau e with th..'Tt ord stricken out we restriet til Mr. STEVEr OX Mr. Speaker, this measure has gone corporations to that class of business. til rough all of the stages of legislation up to tile la:rt. I thiflk that 1\lr. :51ADDEX. Oh, the gentlem n ili excuse me, l>ut I th conferee on the part of the Hou. e have demonstratetl their thought ft was· 3. word that was left in. capacity to take car of the Yiews of tile House i..'l> the report l\fr. 1V1NGO. No ; 111 Hou reeelled. Tbat brings me te a tha.t is fo • n . Out of 36 amendments I belie e th.e House di cussion of th~ philosophy of the Hou e amendment . As tile has yi bled a: luteiy on 3} and ilie runend:ment upon which it bill originally pa sed the Senate and came to the Hou e there :vie! ed "'-ere ::unendm ts of no great material importance. with wns a great deal of objectian te it whieh I think was well tire exce-ption o-f the one fixing the names of the eorpo:rations ftmndeu. Tbe prineipaJl f r ru; that thesE! corporati(}ns might oren.nized rmder thls act~ be en:!ll.cred not entire:ly in purely forefgn fin:mcia trnn ction , ~Tow, we have a re..,.ulation as to nam as ti"ations he.Wnging to th ederru ReserYe Srstem, and it seems to me that ''ould constitute 3. ID6D()poly, whiefi wonid affect fnjul'i­ d ,sirc.lbJe tllat there should }')e some regulation as to all of the ously the pri e of ru:w materials, such as the surplus farm prod­ banks organize uruler tlris Federal system, to ,,it,. the national ucts of the country or tlle surplus manufactured articles of the foreign excha:D.t,rre. banks~ Howe>er; the conferee have yielded. on country, becam tile financial corporations controlling forcigu that, and I have no doubt but that the F deiral Resene Board, credits might to ~ eert::lin extent have some monopoly of the under the power onferred, will fix. the- names a.s. thes are uuthQr­ credits,.. and if we permitted them to become trading corpora­ ized to fix: them by regulation. But it should be unifonn, anti tions) then, furnishing the- credits to the European purcha ·ers, (the term "Federal" is being used so much by corporations that they migllt restrict the financial aid they extend, the credits, by 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOU-SE. 51 saying, "We will give you this credit provided you will pur­ But I. repeat, l\Ir. Speaker, I "Want to be fair to these Govern­ chase your copper, your corn, your cotton, your wheat, your ments, and for that reason I reaffirm my belief that they will not, manufactured articles through us." and certainly Great Britnin \\' ill not, ask us to extend the time The philosophy of the House committee was that we would of payment. The debt they owe us is a debt of honor, made in restrict those corporations to purely financial transactions, and good faith, with a solemn promise to repay it according to the the House took up what vms called the Gronna amendment, terms of the loan, and any failure upon the part of the allied ~vhicll is found on page 8 of the bill, and instead of the Gronna Governments to scrupulou:ly meet these obligations would be amendment the House wrote in a provision, and the Senate unfortunate, to say the least of it. receded from its disagreement with an amendment, and I shall Congress, by the enactment of this foreign finance bill, serves rea

1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE.

MESSAGE FROU THE PRESID~~ T OF THE UNITED ST.&TES. These taxes performed indispensable service dm·ing the war. Sundry messages· in writing from the President of the United They must, howeven, be simplliied, not only to save the tax~ States were communicated to the House of Representatives by payer inconvenience and expense, but in order that his liability Mr. Latta., one of his secretaries~ may be made certain and definite. 'Vith reference to the details of the Revenue Law, the Secre· PRESIDENT'S MESSAGE-RECEIPTS .AND EXPENDITURES. tary of the Treasury and the Commissioner of Internal Revenue The SPEAKER laid before the House the following message will lay before you. for you.r consideration certain amendments from the President, which was read and, with the accompany­ necessary or desirable in connection with the administration of ing docu.ments, referred to the Committee on Appropriations and tile law-recommendations which have my approval and ~:;up­ ordered to be printed : port. It is of the utmost importance tliat in dealing with this To the Senate and House of Revresentative~: matter the present law should not be disturbed so far as r~ gards taxes. for the calendar year 1920, payable in the calendar As. required by the act of Congress approved February 25, year 192L The Congress. mighl well consider whether the 1919, I transmit herewith a preliminary report on• the receipts higher rates of income and profits taxes can in peace times be and expenditul'es made under appropriation of that act. ~ effectively productive of revenue, and whether they may not, WoODROW WIL'iON. on the contrary, be destructive of business- activity and pro­ THE WHITE HousE, ductive of. waste and inefficiency. There is a point at which in 2. December, 1919. peace times high rates of ineome and profits taxes discourage PRESIDENT'S MESSAGE-REPORT OF THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION. energy, remove the incentive to new enterprise, encourage ex­ The SPEAKER also laid before the Huuse the following mes­ travagant expenditures and produce industrial stagnation with sage from the President, which was read and, with the accom~ consequent unemployment and other attendant evils~ panying documents, referred to the Committee an. Refo:rm. in the. The problem is not an easy one. A fundamental change lias Civil Service and ordered to· be printed: taken place witfi reference to tbe. position of America in the world's affairs. The prejudice and passions engendered by To the Senate and House of Representatives: decades of controversy between two schools. of political and .As required by the act of Congress to regulate and improve economic tliought,-the one believers in. protection. of American the civil service of the United States, appt'OYed January 16, 1883, industries, the other believers in tari.fi. for revenue only,-must. r transmit herewith tl1e- thirty-sixth annual report of the United be subordinated to the- single consideration of the public States Civil Service Commission for the. :fiscal year ended June interest in the Iigbt of utterly changed conditions. Before the 30, 1919. war America. was heavily the debtor of the res.t of the world WOODROW WILSON. and the interest payments she had to make to foreign countries THE WmTE HousE, on American securities held abroad, the expenditures of Amei:i­ 2 DecemlJer, 1919. can travelers abroad and the ocean. freight charges she had to ANNUAL MESSAGE Oil' THE PRESIDENT. pay to others, about balanced the varu:e of.het! pre-war favo~able of The SPEAKIJJR also laid' before the lilouse the annuaL message balance trade. Dilling the war America's exports have been. :flrom the Presio,ent oJl the United States·, which was read by· greatly stimulated,, and increased. prices have i'ncreased theiu value. On. the other hand, she has purchased a. large propor the Clerk of th.e House, William Tyler Page, as· follows : tion of the American securities previoualy held abroad', has loaned some $9,000,000,000 to-foreign governments, and has built To the Senate aruJ, Hottse of Representative~: her own ships. Our favorable balance- of trade lias thus been I sincerely regret that I cannot be present at the O:Qening- of greatly increased and EUrope has lleen depri-ved of- the means this session of the Congress. I am thus prevented from present- ot: meeting it Iieretofore existing. Europe can have only three ing in as direct a way as I could wish the many questions that ways of meeting the favorable balance of trade iiL peace times: are pressfng for solution at this tim·e. Ha1)pily, I have had th-e by i.inports into tliis country of gold. or of goods, or fiy estab-· advantage of the adVice of the heads of the several executive> Ush.ing new credits. E"urope is in no position at the present time ~ departments who have kept in: close touch with affairs in their to sfiip. gofd to us nor could.: we contemplate ln.rge further im­ detail and whose thougJitful recommendations· r ea:rn.estly- · porta of gold into this. country without concern. The time has second. nearly passed for international governmental loans and it will In the matter of the railroads- and the readjustments: of theil' take ti:Ine- to de~elop in t:1lis cormtry a market for foJ;eign securr­ affairs growing-aut of Federal control~ I shall talte the. liberty at ties. Anything. therefore,. wilich would tend to. prevent forefgn a later date of addressing you. countries from settnng for Oll.l! exports by silipments of goods I hope that Congress will bring to a conclusion at this sessiou into thm country could only na.ve the effect o! preventing them legislation looking to the establisfunent of a budget system. from paying for our exports and therefore of preventing the That ther'e should be one single authority responsible for the. exports from being made. The productivity of the country making of all. appropriations and that appropriations should be greatly stimulated' by the war must find an outlet by exports to mnde not independently of each other; but with reference to one foreign countries and any measures taken to prevent imports. single coml)rehensive plan ef expenditure properly related to the will' inevitably curtail exports, force curtailment of production nation's income, there can be no· doubt. I believe the burden of· load the banking machinery of the country with credits to carry preparing the budget must, in the nature of the case, if the. unsol'd products and produce indnsb:ia.l stagnation and unem· work ls to be properly done and responsibility concentrated ill- ployment. If we want to sell, we must be prepaned to buy~ stead of divided, rest upon the executrve. The budget so pre· W'b.atever, therefore, may have beez: eur yiews during the. pared should be submitted to aru.t approved or amendeii by a period of gro"'th of American Business concerning tariff legis· single committee of each House of Congress. and no single appro- lation, we mu t now adjust our own economic Ufe to a changed priation should be made by the COngx.ess, except such as may- condition growing out of the fact t11a.t. Amer1can business. is full have been included in the budget prepared by the executive or grown and that America fs the greatest capitalist in the world. added by the particular committee of Congress charged willi the No policy of isoiation will satisfy the gr owing needs unci budget legislation. opportunities of America. The provincial standards and poll,. . Another and not less important aspect of the problem is the cies o! tlle past, which have Ileld American busine s u.s i:f in a ascertainment of the economy and efficiency with which the strait-jacket, must yield and give way to tl"te nee

chase, the par amount paid therefor, and the amount of accru~d CHANGE OF REFERENCE. jnterest paid (H. Doc. No. 393) ; to the Committee on 'Vays amt l\Jeans and or

Al o, a bill (H. n. 10819) granting a penslon to 1\Iyra Scran­ Freight Handlers, Express and Station Employees, of "Balti­ ton ; to the Committee on In~alid Pensions. more, l\ld., opposing the 'Cummins hill; to the Committee on Al o, a bill (H. n.. ~0820) to correct the militUJ'Y record of Interstate and Foreign Commerce. LcYi Mott; to the Comm1ttee on -.Military Affairs. 18. !By 1\IIr. 1\iOORE of Pennsylyania: Petition of Keystone Also, .a bill (H. R. ~0821) to cor.rect the military :record of Lodge, No. 221, of the Un'ited Brotherhood of 1tlaintenance of Samuel D. Jarman; to the Committee on Military Affairs. 'Way 'Employees and Railway Shop Laborers, favoring a two­ By Mr. 1CK1NLEY: A bill (II. It. 10822) granting a pen ion year nationa1 ·control of railroaCls; to -the -Committee on Inter­ to RobertZink; to th.e Committee on ln\aiid Pensions. stu te and Foreign Commerce. By Mr. 1\lA.GEE : A bill (H. n. 10823) grunting nn .increase 19. Also, petition of Po t 890, American Legion, of Philadel­ of pension to Nicola Depompa ; to the Committee on P ,eMions. phin, fa'Voring amendment to wn1~-ri£k insurance act e tabli bin~ By ..1\Ir. PURNELL: .A bill (H. R. 10824) .granting a pension branch offices; also urging 'f>3Ssage of bill to 1end o1llier money to Laura Ke1lison; to tlle Committee on P.ensions. for the purcha e of homes; to the Committee on Inter tate and By Mr. SANDERS of :: ..A bill (H. R. 10£25.) grunting Foreign Commer-oe. an increase of .pension to Sarah Cain; io the Comnlittee on In­ 20. By i\lr. tO'CO \ELL : Petition ·of "Bronx Board of Trade, valid Pen ·ions. of New 'York, pledging aid to the Go~ernment in suppressing Also, n bill (H. R.. 10826) to co.r1·ect the military record of radical -elements in thi country; to the Committee on the Judi­ J'ohn C. CBmmins; to the Committee on 1\filita.ry Affairs. ciary. By 'Mr. TREA.DWAY: ..A bill (l'IL R. 10827) granting an in­ 21. Also, petition of Bring Home the Soldier Dead L_eague, of crease of pension to Simon Hoafmyre; to the Com.rnittee on In­ Pittsburgll, Pa., fa\oring bringing home the soldier dead from valid Pensions. France; to the Committee on l\filitary Affairs. By l\Ir. WATSON of Pennsyhrania: A bill (H. R. 10828) . '22. By 'Mr. RA'h.''""ER: ~etition of Rosenthal's, of San ·Fran­ granting an increa e ef peru.ion te Helena ·Garges; to· the Com­ cisco, Calif., protesting aga:in t the setting of price on s;hoe by mittee on Invalid Pensions. the mannfaeturers; -to the .Committee on Interstate and Foreign B-.y Mr. WOOD of Indiana: A bill {EI. R. 108.29) granting an Commerce. increase of pension to John Horn·; to tlle Committee oo 1InvuUd 23 . .Also, petition df 'Rh-ersi<.le · Chnmber of Commerce, of 1P nsions. Riverside, Calif., m:ging the stimulation of travel betwe-en the Also, ;a bill (H. Jl. 1.0830) .grarrting an inc:rea e of rpenshm to national 'Parks of the 'United -states; to the Committee on Irtter­ Nancy H. J'anes; :to the Committee on [n:va-lid Pensions. state and Foreign Commerce. 24.. Also, -petition of 'California Woot Grower ' .Association, PETITIONS, ET-C. Red Bluff, Calif., opposing Kenyon .and Kendrick 'bill ; to the Commi±tee on Agriculture. der clause 1 of Rule :K:.:"UI_, petitions and papers were laid 25. Also, petition df North British Mercantile & In&n·aucc on the 'Clerk's desk ·and refer.ved as follows: ·Co., af Sun Francisc:o, Oulif., regarding Benate bill 290G; to the L B-y .Mr. CULLEN: Petition of Bring Home the Soldier Committee on Interstate and Fol'eign Commerce. DE:"llu League~ -of :Pittsbm:gh., Pa., .favoring ·bringing home the 26. By 1\lr. ll-OUSE: Petition of 'Boone 'Post, r·o. 4, A.mexican soldiers who were killed ·Or ·died :in :France; to the Committee Legion, of 'Kentu_Cky, indorsing Sweet bill amending waT-ri 'k :on Military Affairs. insurance act~ also intlorsing bi:ll for deportation of a1iens and 2. Also, petition of Bronx Board of Trade, of New X'ork, naturalized citizens con\icted under espionage act; to 'fue Com­ pledging ·support to the Government in suppressing radical ele- rriittee on Interstate and For_eign Commerce. ..meuts.; to the ~omm:i:ttee on th.e .Judiciary. 27. By l\lr. 'ROWAN: Petition of International As oclation .3. By .1\f:r. FULLER of :Illinols: Petition of the Big B-end 'Vet- of 'Railroad Supenisors of Mechanics, of St. Louis, Mo., con- eran ..Reunlb·n ~ ~o~ati~rlD..g i!eali~er !.lension bill, cerning :railroad 1egi lation; to the Committee on interstate a.ntl H use . '.1 9 69• ,; l..6 e 0 o . e on . v enswn~. Foreign Commerce. - 4 . .Also, petttlon of ~e Assocra~ed ~ifl.e Club.s of .Ne~ Yorlr '28. Also, petition of 1\letal Poli.sher , 'Buffer , anto·­ Workers of Ameri-ca_, of Streato:t:, Jll., _opposing Oummins ~railroad posed leaoue 0~ . atlons • to the Coinflllttee on For:~lg~ Affal! _·, biJI; to tthe Committee on futerstaie and Foreign Commerce. .,. 30. Also, ._petition of Fede~al lleti.re.J?ent As ocration .of l'eW 7. Also, petition of Bring Home the Soldier Dead Le_f4,-ne, Iork, ia:ormg J::e~lbach !etirement lull; to the Comn11t ee on 1 1 favoring bTinging home fue soldier dead from .France; to the Reform lll the .~ v l Servi~e. . . . -committee on MUitary .Affairs. . 31. Al o, .petition of Umted . tntes .£?melting, Refimng & Mm- 8. Also, petition of Civil War veterans of Rushsylvania, Ohlo, mg ~·· of New York, ~p,rote t:ing aga.lilllt chru:ge"' made by ;tlle petitioning Congress for the early enactment of the Fuller pen- Co~ttee on Expen~:llture~ m the War Department; to the sion bill, House bill.9369; to tbe Comm.ittee on Invalid Pensions. Oo~ttee on ~~ilitures ~ the Wn.r Department. . D. By 1\lr. K1NKAID: Petition of Lieut. Sullivan and 20 other n2. ~so, ,petition of the C1-ty Club of New York, nppronng :veterans of rthe Jate war from Elyria, :rebr., asking for a bonus exten~on of wa~er~vay across the State of rew Jer ·ey; to tlle of f'500 to be pn.id to each solaier.; to the Comniittee on Military Comnuttee on ~l·:ers and Harbors. rAifairs 33. ...A.lso, petition of the Turlock Board of Tra<.le, Turlock, 10. By Ir. LINTHICUM: Petition of the Women's tClub of I Cnli:f.';, opposing Japane ~ · iii?Digration; to the Oommiti;ee on Fore t Park and the Child Welfare Circle of Baltimore, 'Md., Imrrugration al?c'!- Natm:uliZ:~tlOn. . , :fn: oring Smith-Towner bill; to the Oommittee on Education. I 34. Also, pe.t:t~lOJ? of Eng~ee.rs, Arclutec~, and Constructor~ 11. .Also, petition of Denton Journal, of Denton, M.d., fuvoring C.on:erence on Na~wnal Pu~l:i~ Works, ~vonng . tbe . Jone ~eans retention of the present zone ;postage rate 1aw on the statute blll.z t? the · Co~ttee o~ ~tary Affau . . . ·book; to the ·Committee on the Post Office and Post Road . Sa. Als?, pettti~ of -c.t.tlzens of .Mas u.cbu et~.s, Ul~ relief 12. Also, petition of .T. Lee Adams, of Washington, D. ·C., urg- 1 for starvmg R~lS~IU; to th~ CollliDlttee - ~>n Forrugu A~ru.r •. "' .ing increasing the power of the Public Health Service; to the 36. _AlsQ, P.etlti?n o.E :qruon of T~chnt~al Men, of New l'ork, Committee on Agriculture. oppo~mg J.egislabon wluch. would 1mpmr the freedom oi U1e !13 . .Also, :petition of s. . Kitesge Oo., of Baltimore, Id., op- labormg men; to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign orn­ po ing Senate bill 2904 11.nd Honse 'btll .8315 ; to the .Committee merce. ,on lnterstate and Foreign Commerce. 37. Also, petition 10f .Adolph Lewisohn, of New York, giving 14. Also, petition of Hagersto~vn Lodge, No. 281, IRrotherhood views.fl:S to the m~e-up of the tanding £1\..:rmy; to tb. orrnnitlee of Ra:ilway Oletks, opposing Oummiru; :bill; to the Committee on on M1htary Affa1rs. Interstate .and FD:reign Commerce. i 38. Also, petition of Bronx Board ·of Trade, of "'ew £ork, 15. Also, _petition 10f Oar.roll Post, No. 31, of the Maryland !Pledging aid to the ~over.nment fO:r the . npp1· ion of ·adicnl :Branch ·of the American Legion, favor:ing deportation of 'flliens elements; to ·the ·ColDJilittee an the .Tudi_cian·. found plotting against our institutions; to the Committee on :39. Also~ rr:tetition of Bring Home tlle ...'oldier nd J..e.ague. of the Judiciary. Pittsburgh, P.a., 'fa.-oring bri.Rging hOID the soldier .{lead :from 16. Also, petition of International Brotherhood of Electrical , iFrance; to :the Committee on d:ilitury A:ffai1· ·. Worker.s, Local :865, €lffi)OSing nny antistrike :legiSlation; to the ! 40. Alse, petition of Brooklyn . oat L_-chnn~ . of J~Tooktyn, ,Committee on [nterstate an:.d F.oreign Commer~e. IN. ~ .. protesting against pt'e8ent m.etlmtl of ~ettlement of Jo s 17. Also, petition of sundry members of the 1\IDn:umentul l for damages inem:red :in .tlhe txallliPaJ'tatiou 6.f ani; tto :the Gum­ Lodge, No. 567, Brotherhood of Railway and Steamship Clerks, I mittee on Interstate and I•~oreign Commerce. 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SEN.A.TE. 59

41. Also, petition of Hebrew Veterans of the Wars of theRe­ The Secretary read as follows : public, protesting ngainst the treatment of the Jewish popula­ THE WHITE HousE, tion in Ukraine; to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. Washington, 22 No~:embet·, 1919. 42. By Mr. SIEGEL: Petition of Hebrew Veterans of the Wars Hon. THOMAS fl. 1\lARSHALL, of the Republic, protesting against pogroms in Ukraine; to the The Vice President. Committee on Foreign Affairs. 1\fy DEAR 1\lR, VICE PRESIDENT: I am transmitting herewith a 43. By 1\Ir. SINCLAIR: Petition of James A. McCulloch and letter from the Secretary of the Interior, un