The National Museum of the Pacific War
Center for Pacific War Studies Fredericksburg, Texas
Interview with Dr. Thomas Earl DuPree United States Navy Air Group 16/ USS Lexington Date of Interview: 5 June 2007
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trained military pilots in the world and proud to pin those gold wings on hut
that he wasn’t half as proud as we were, of course, and I was riding up to
Norfblk with my orders to report to the USS Wasp, CV-7. I thought about
that commander, what he said about me being the smartest, well trained
pilot in the world and I thought, ‘Well, I haven’t learned anything since
Friday and I was a dumb damn cadet on a Friday. I think I got I’ve got a lot
to learn!’ These were my thoughts as I was driving north to Norfolk,
Virginia to join the Wasp.
Mr. Zambrano: Well, I’m curious but what drew you to the navy?
Dr. DuPree: Well, my brother had been in the navy prior to me and he was an instructor
in Jacksonville and he had sold me on the idea that the navy flight training
program was the best flight program there was and if I could get in the navy
like he had done that’s what I should do. And I kind of had a fantasy of
wanting to he an aircraft carrier pilot. [actually started flying in the CPT
training course that the government started in colleges all over America in
‘39 and ‘40 and I had about a hundred hours and a pilot’s license and
though I could do acrobatics, [was restricted from flying with passengers,
hut I learned in the CPT civilian training course betbre I went to Pensacola
and they gave us credit fbr that training course, but we started otYwith a
5 thirty-three hour check and that’s the reason I got through Pensacola so
rapidly. I didn’t spend much time in Squadron 1.
Mr. Zambrano: Now what were you flying down at Pensacola?
Dr. DuPree: Well, we trained in Yellow Perils we called it. They were naval ... some of
them were Stearman and some of them were built by the Naval Aircraft
Factory in Philadelphia, because they were all trainers, N3N trainers and
N2S trainers that the Stearman was. And then after we got into Squadron 2
we flew ... that’s when we learned formation flying in old aircraft that the
fleet had used up and turned over to the training command. I flew SBU’s
which is a Vought-Sikorsky dive bomber with no dive flaps and didn’t even
have the retractable landing gear. Then in Squadron 3 we flew the SNJ or
what the air forces called an AT-6 for instrument flying and when I got
down to Miami we flew lighters and torpedo planes that had been worn out
in the fleet and been sent back to the training command to train cadets in.
Mr. Zambrano: Did you have a preference for flying lighters or torpedo bombers or
anything?
Dr. DuPree: Well, it was a lot more fun flying fighters than anything else. They were
ever so much more maneuverable. They were single seat airplanes and the
ones we trained in were those old bi-planes like Roscoe Turner used to fly
around doing acrobatic shows. Ldon’t know whether you know who he was
or not, but I think he carried a lion in his airplane sometimes. That was part
of his show. That was the most maneuverable airplane I ever flew and one
of the most fun planes to fly. The bi-plane and I think the Stearman and
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and you wouldn’t land until your third approach and I think the landing
signal officer missed the count and I was the sixth one in the line and he
gave mc a cut Ofl my first approach so 1landed before I realized that I’d
make a landing. It was surprising how simple it was.
Mr. Zambrano: Really and why is that?
Dr. DuPrec: Pardon?
Mr. Zambrano: Oh, you said you were surprised at how simple it was.
Dr. DuPree: Well, he didn’t even correct me. I made a perfect approach and when he
gave me the cut I expected to wave mc off and so when I cut it the engines,
you know, you’re flying so slow, once you cut the engine it lands and the
plane caine straight down and I landed it on the deck, caught the hook and
I’d made a landing beibre I’d realized I made one.
Mr. Zambrano: Oh, gosh. Let’s see ... so you trained on the Wasp with landings and what
else did you do when you first got to the Wasp?
Dr. DuPree: Well, on our first trip we had no idea where we were going because the war
had started and we headed in a northeastern direction like we were going to
Europe and we knew that was the general direction of the fleet. There was
an interesting story about Admiral Wilcox who was the admiral and he was
on the Washington a new battleship that was in the task force and we didn’t
know it at the time but we were headed for Scapa Flow to pick up Spittires
for the RAF and ferry them down to Malta for the defense of’Malta and the
Wasp made two trips down there and, by the way, Malta was never, never
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question.
when
question.
named
was
still
might
the
I
on
went
was
airight.
airight.
never
that
something
and
the
same
time
there,
a
aboard
about
and
it
small
on
for
the
he
about
Wasp
Long
came
heard
I
Let’s
shakedown
when
some
talking
read
air
sure,
Hornet.
sir?
a
carrier
until,
that’?
group.
hundred
about
Island.
after
back
anything
a
see
anyway
we
new
little
12
about
uh
They
the
off
weren’t
that
an The
...
That’s cruise.
...
bit
ftet
Wasp cruise
accident
the
about
I
was
were
actually
money
guess
about
shorter
desiring
Wasp
when
designed
The
I
[had
the
three
was
some
the
with
was
Wasp
I
Wasp,
that
1
and
didn’t
just
on
Wasp
went
sisters
getting
a
appropriated
new
was
sort
was
Vought
about
finished
was
so
aboard.
go
and
tighter
of
of sunk.
an
[wasn’t
into
lost
aboard
ten
like
the
Essex its
Vindicator.
ACTG
the
in
feet The
shakedown
same
planes
the
for
1942.
until
war.
Class
aboard
narrower,
Wasp
Yorktown,
it
design
and
back
too.
We
‘42
carrier
Do
was
when
and
I
were
and
don’t
you
but it Mr. Dr. Mr. Dr. Mr. Dr. DuPrec: DuPrec: DuPree: Zambrano: Zambrano: Zambrano: tough ailerons and Now It That’s Dauntless to So any when and Yes Okay.
flying liked a SB2U’s speed So still flaps Pacific? tough was San what I you Japanese,
the we arguing didn’t and at the the airplane, towards straight a [have Diego right. battle this old did. very and could that was plane’? the Wasp was. see dive point
I about rudders we We your read stable fuselage to went came we and fly Midway any too. was refuel had bomber picked didn’t you’re it that
impression whether level. activity through airplane. off straight built. on and was and you a the and up see hut flying it It little 13 covered reload didn’t went
was we the Wasp in the we and Pearl it Once of the early.
wasn’t were Douglas Panama got the SO make through the wobble prior and Pacific Harbor. easy you Douglas about
with going Dauntless, We get anything a to got to Canal Dauntless small canvas didn’t the prior a on ready that. fly
We to thousand it Dauntless’? Panama
the set tight and correction. turned and 10 The see as I to instead dive in mean, Guadalcanal. had good
head World planes we Midway, a SB2U miles dive Canal around like good were of it out
as War to sounds some It you, didn’t metal, the from to to headed controls was replace we and get Guadalcanal.
Douglas II it planes didn’t a Midway
have or was but went like to very
at not the the fbr it like you flank dive did back was see old Mr. Zambrano: Iheardthatit wasprettyheavilyarmored?
Dr. DuPree: Well, it hadbullet-proofwindshieldsandbullet-prooftanksthatsealed.If youshotaholethroughthemitwouldsealitandithadabulkheadinfront
of us andbehindusthat wasbullet-proof.Itonlyhad two .50’sthat fired
throughthe propellerthat the pilot firedandthentwo .30 calibermachine
gunsthatthe gunnerfiredandit firedabouta thousandroundsof
ammunitionin onelongstringof bullets.Youcouldshoottwo thousand
withoutstopping.Ifyouhada six planesectionor threeplanesectionof
divebombersyouhadaboutsix .30calibersfiringin the rearand the six .50
calibersfiringfonvardand it was a prettywellableto defenditselfagainsta
7S0.
Mr. Zambrano: It soundsthatway. Who wasyourcaptainat thistime whenyouheadcd
backto San Diego?
Dr. DuPree: Youmeanthe captainof the ship or my squadroncommander?
Mr. Zambrano: Well, I guess both. Who was your squadroncommander?
Dr. DuPree: Well, Ernest Snowdenwas the squadroncommanderafter FrankTurner
went to the Washington.He was General ‘Hap’ Arnold’sson-in-law,the
five-stargeneralin the air force,he married LoisArnold.
Mr. Zambrano: LoisArnold?
Dr. DuPree: LoisArnold was his wife and she was the daughterot’the five-stargeneral
of the air force.
Mr. 7amhrano: Oh,okay.Whatkindof manwashe like?Whatkind of officer?
14
Dr. Mr. Mr.
Mr. Dr. Dr.
Dr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano: Zambrano:
Academy. was
to
out
thirty-four
carrier
beaver
very Oh, his
Really. The What competent Academy
ever confident
retired. Well,
1 Captain Forest
So
have
Georgia
he
confidence
as
he
proud
captain
meet
well.
about he
was
commander
read
Sherman
landing
was
kind
Sherman
was
man
in
him
He
He
of a
zeros.
Tech
pilot
that
the
the
of
of
pretty
‘32
his
a
was
left
or
the
and
a
in
practice
very
fellow
...?
David
and
who
and
and
fellow.
having
He
know
me
made
Georgia
highly
ship
of
confident
a
fearless
he
he
became
went
good
was
and
the
that
McCampbell
was
was
him’?
and
kind
four-star
been
He
air
complimentary
his
15
the
immediately
leader.
Tech
taught
made
he
a
‘Black
group
kind
of
officer
the confidence
captain
courageous
to
was
liked
Georgia
and
leading
and
me
of
me
on
Jack’
a
too.
served
fellow.
went
lieutenant
having how became
when
a
the
lot
into
in
ace
Tech
Reeves,
of
guy
Essex
to
to
better
himself.
the
on
my
He
flying
the
a make
of
the
and
Georgia
before
the
ship
the
at
graduated
flying
and
Naval
pilot
CO
but
the
he
Wasp
and
landings.
navy
was
He
there
was
of
he
he
time
than
and
Academy he
boy
was
the
sunk
was
went
and as
a
was
he
from
David
and
I
well.
to
real
navy
a
was
He
replaced
shot
1
and
totally
to teach
knew
a
later
the
eager
very
gave
the
Did
because
and
before
had
down
then
Naval
and
came
Naval
David
self
you
us
been
by
he
he
all of
Dr.
Mr.
Mr.
Mr. Dr.
Dr. Dr.
Mr.
Dr.
Dr. Mr.
Mr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree: DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zainbrano:
Zambrano:
That
law
tell Okay.
Snowden?
7
And Air
We Scouting
Well, Now
Okay. had
So number picture Wow,
started
He
finally graduated
a
and
high
that
was
me
had
that Group
a
my
was
would
the big
before
You
I
very
regard
realized
they
if
would
of
just
an
of
scouting
was
squadron
72.
Ernie you
fighter
advantage
him
in
7 your
LSO
know
interesting.
began
wanted
pilots
on
my
the
1934,
knew
for
be
serving
Snowden,
that
the
air
on
squadron
war
squadron
squadrons:
him. before
..
was
generally
to
group’? 1
the
Wasp.
these
to you
in
believe
started
train
throw
as
Scouting
the
Wasp.
When
didn’t
1
an
men
16
my
go
commander.
people
was
fact
most
take
LSO
it
71
a
on
commander
I
or
was,
couple
have
that
VF-7.
was
and
I
72.
not:
a
on
who
of
forgot
turn
they
but
reading
72.
to
the
the
Lieutenant
of
were
be
yes,
at
And
were
[SO’s
to
flight
names
a
being
who
ask
pilot
I
not
about
the
knew
pilots.
deck.
was you,
were
out
pilots
LSO’?
torpedo
to
Commander
the
be
at
David
‘Hap’
but
pilots,
you
Wasp
to
an
what
squadron
be
LSO,
Arnold’s
and
very
but
LSO’s.
I
was
came
E.M.
you
hut
well
after
the
was
can
I
They
son-in-
across
and
think
the
just
VT-
war
had
it a
Dr.
Mr.
Mr. Dr.
Dr. Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
DuPree:
DuPree: DuPree:
DuPrec:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
and and
plane
storage
August We
Okay. squadron, remember
hit
combat You
Okay. squadron,
about
I Yeah, about were
torpedoed
Eldridge Oh,
FTc
remember
Guadalcanal.
was
it
flew
from
okay,
know,
in
in
exploded
that,
Lieutenant
After
I
on the
on
remember
the
the
the
out
got
San
in
I
airight.
the
a
his
the
but
7 th,
the
don’t air
commanding
group
a
Howard
San
of
John
killed
Diego
Lieutenant
squadron
island
Wasp
I so
the
war
1942.
and
never
Diego
Most
Robert
think.
his
Eldridge’s
that
Lieutenant
seeing
flames
at
is
flames
to
of
that because
Our
squadron
Guadalcanal,
a
of
saw
attacked
Guadalcanal.
can
Tulagi
long
had
Howard?
Howard
my
was
17 officer
target
a
in
enveloped him
site
you
the
just
time
experience
squadron.
we
Commander
in,
just
landed
that
and
after
tell
anti-submarine
was
of
got
I
the
ago
that
think,
north
Scouting
I’m
me
I
mentioned
the
We
matter torpedoed
the
got
my
memory
was
at
where
pretty
gasoline
Wasp
was
of
covered
he
Guadalcanal
a
airplane
Eldridge?
in
hit
Guadalcanal.
of
was
7
on
Scouting
on you
sure
a
was
to
that
duty
about
and
the
split
in
storage
whatever
the
me.
and
went
the
he
sunk.
he
Lexington,
when
and
Marine
second
five
I
did,
and
was
other
I
7
didn’t
just
then?
1.
scout
tanks
I
weeks
I
the
I’m
1-Ic
was
deceased.
it
think
held
scouting
and
landings
was
do
Wasp
wasn’t
not duty
and
the
but
a
after
much
my
John
that
sure
zero
tburth
bomb
I
and
was
breath
How
in
on
it
we
was
was
my they
them
it such,
bottom
first
until sands classmates
explosion
and the
waved
ibund lot
made
Sea. was
float on
swimming
water.
He
to
our
of
just
Wasp
knocked
launch
otThnsive
the
The
then
type
right
but
searching
of
a
it
My
to
tail
of
strafing
stopped
limit
and
Guadalcanal
submarine
the
him
we’d
and
zero,
that
the
there
rear
at
that
to
their
we
Japanese
the
the
of
the
Wasp
one
and
battle
knocked
seat
been
later
after
run
for
my
and
never
at
attack
ship
time
side
he
of
Guadalcanal
the
on
gunner
combat
suspended
1-19
landed
and,
became
I
fighting
them
waved
completely
and
and
and
dropped
got
were
his
Japanese
on
us
put
of
18
it
involved
as
all
out
Australia
airplane
cracked
said,
in
building
experience
course,
was
back
a
three
I
a
of
the
of
colonel flew
that
defensive
in
and
a
our
‘I
fleet
the
out
midair; water.’ sudden
and
torpedoes,
don’t
the
a
bomb
over
with
nobody
that’s
and
first
war.
couple
an
of
that
I
was
aviation
went
in
the
airfield
his
America
the
know
ofThnsive
battle,
And
he
And
Ithink and
Guadalcanal.
why was
the
water.
cared
plane
Japanese
of
quit
on
two
hit
so
one
first
coming
three
why
it
storage
and
but
back
it
firing
was
the
I
felt of
about
strafing
I’ve
saw
of
was
battle,
Marine
he
Guadalcanal
they
them
times
fuel
to
my
like
such
fleet
down
quit
seen
and
his
fuel
an
After
the
Guadalcanal
were
first
storage
you
we
simultaneously
it
aviation
and
plane,
and
a
to
he
shooting
Wasp
and
a
the
bloody
but
that
had
picture
step
grade
know,
landed
going
I
the
last
it
saw
we
was
dump.
it
to
we
blew
and
on
Coral
gasoline
was
time
battle.
never
stop
at
to
him
up
as
of
did
our
the
in
that
us.
use
up
a
the
I the
I
a in Mr. Zambrano: Yousaythatthatwastheonlyactionthatyousawwhileyouwereon
Guadalcanal?
Dr. DuPree: The only action I saw on the Wasp was at Guadalcanal, that’s correct.
Mr. Zambrano: Well, I assume that after your run you flew back to the Wasp. How long
after that was it that the three torpedoes had hit the Wasp and where were
you and what were you doing when the ship was hit?
Dr. DuPree: I had flown a search and destroy mission that morning and landed back
aboard about ten o’clock and I had lunch and went to the squadron office
which was on the hanger deck. It was along the port side, forward in the
corner of the hanger deck. All the squadron offices were kind of together
and I was in there with about seven yeomen working on some paperwork
when the torpedoes hit and, of course, it had a solid steel floor and a solid
steel walls and solid steel everywhere. On the entrance the hatches at the
fbrward and aft end and flame was coming in both those hatches. So we
slammed the hatches and I could tell that the captain had put the ship into a
turn and I assumed that if he got to 180 degrees, if he could hold it on the
course, he would because it would blow the flame away from the ship
instead of across the ship so [was cracking the hatch and this voice said,
‘Close that hatch or I’ll crack your head!’ So I didn’t know who it was until
1closed the hatch and then I said, ‘I’m Ensign DuPree, sound oiI1 And
everybody gave there rank and, you know, their rating and serial numbers
like I told them to. Well, it seems like I’m the only officer in this group so I
don’t know whether that’s good luck or bad, but this is my plan. I said,
19
Mr.
Zambrano:
Yeah,
the
wreck. were
upper
to
knocked death, that
two
busting
and on deck
we but
can’ blowing
me
I’m and
I
‘We’re
said,
him,
it
torpedoes
see
what
if
went
going
fellow as
until
and
even
hat
when
anybody’s
I fbrcc
but
‘I’m
soon
From
that
but
had
in
my
away
from
on so
your
it
to
a
I’m
with
to
had
it
they
cooled
deck
head
on going
read
turn
I
their
the
as
the
my
looks
cracked
hit.
the
thoughts
wondering
from
the
that
shoes
sounded
deck.
thought
and
very
that.
battle
starting
open got
battle
Every
bomb
to
ship
some
cool
red-hot
the
crack
abetter
when
on
the
instant
You
It
said,
station
that
stations
are.’
was
ship,
one
but
explosions.
off
that
more
and
to
20
hatch
if
this
couldn’t
we
deck
cool
he or
...
‘Well,
it
of
pretty
And
he idea
we
that
if
wasn’t
and and
get
not
hatch
there
didn’t
them
the
a
and
couldn’t
went
we’re
cooled
few
torpedoes
than
the
around
and
then
I
amazing
Ensign
captain
fly
nobody
invite
The
were
their
in
guy
cool.
hit
times
back
nobody
I
going
any
about
all
have, I
concussion his
swim
plan
that
180
landing
forty-three
DuPree,
each
but
It can
plane in
and
hit.
that
could
head
was
to
thirty
a
it’s
was
degrees
to
one
had
and
hold
of
waited
get
finally
the
get
off
so
on
time
gear
ever you
threatening
man
he
any
I
out
seconds
blast
it
was hot
out
like
the something
planes
was
on
so
to
another
to
crashed
we
remember
idea
of
evacuated
we
of
ship
your
so
the
do
that
had
speak
here
just
walked
here
great
couldn’t
what
on and
the
flame
at
done
course
plan!’
me
scared
while
minute
and
deck
up
all,
and
while
same
as
in
happened
whether
with
with
out
and
that.
is
SOOfl
they
it
the was
he
when And
walk
we
was
to thing,
and
on
or
tell
me
will
as
the
so a
Dr.
DuPree:
torpedoes.
was
watch off
up
began
leave I two
any result we’d
were
a twenty-three
injured
first. dropped
fleet. about also
Well
Ship!’
can’t
big
in
and
room
red
hundred
had
I
the
saved
put as
it
the The
we
two
it,
just
to
remember
and
got
was
that
hot,
group
into
uh a
air, get
them
deck
were
to
rescue
hundred
C02
I
blew
I
under
from
think
quite could
...
but
go
went
people
so
people
hundred
the
as
so
in
the
it
below
the
bottle
it
up
water
boats
the
was possible
the
I
a
the
a
they
down
return
wasn’t
last
stood
men,
blast
shower
pilots
the
to
in
Wasp
boats
destroyer
red
complement
that
(leek
come
put
group
one
that
and
lifejacket
a
just
to
and
there
21
sinking hot,
that
line
so
about
would
and
group
that
and
duty
were I
50
together
had
they
about
a
to
were
flames
about
on
1
little
number
sent
put
were
he
stood
but
twenty
coming
a
and
so inflate
and
the
didn’t
picked
lifejacket
of
forty
on
flying
them
bit
actually
whoever
halfway
picked
were
deck floated
and
men
we
out
survivor
under
but
torpedoes
have
minutes
so
around
were
on
if
on
around
up
and
going
and
I
I
there
up
to
on.
twenty-one
think
didn’t
around
deck
down
and
was two
any
the
eight
watched
the
by
clothes
You
kept
about
later
were
when
it
hundred
trouble
in
and
in largest
the
it
ship,
to
use
said
hundred
was tbr
charge
the
could
telling
the
the
destroyers
took
any
but
eight
my
I
the
a
and,
but
hundred
Wasp
got
487,
water
while.
group
seeing
captain,
men,
I
injured
C02
all blow
Wasp
ordered
still
I
people
to
thousand
of
or
guess
there
my
before
the
and
course,
so
left
on
bottle
We
couldn’t
you
in
it
people
burn
clothes ‘Abandon
people were
Lardner,
up
a
wasn’t
the
to
we
then
so
some lost
SO
it
get
and
feet
at
as
and
had
it
I
I
a
in it
Mr.
Mr.
Dr.
Mr. Mr. Dr. Mr.
Dr.
Dr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano: Zambrano:
Say
men
Lexington Well,
they
you
Right. twenty-three
got hundred There You
I Well, Gosh
the went
standing explosion
But
second
finally
can
hot
well
that
so
compare
ot’f
were
said
completely
imagine, I
...
we
were
I
many
sank.
dropped
time
ship,
had
of
again,
and
were
yeah,
on
there
had
not
shows
and
the
around
the
read
before
returned
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blew
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Mr.
Dr.
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DuPree:
Zambrano:
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Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
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Mr.
Dr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
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records;
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Dr.
Mr.
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DuPrec:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
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just
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fellow!’
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both
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replica.
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for
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display
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sea.
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more
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to
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only
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original
records
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metal
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navy
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Mr.
Dr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
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lieutenant
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ships
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ship
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sunk
and
feet
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landing
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day
landing
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stuff.
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than
commanders,
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three
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in
been
get
it
said,
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that
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World
was
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there
the
aboard!’
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and
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made
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big
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anybody
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were
Ticonderoga,
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Wasp.
said,
when
aircraft
planes and
were
Commander
had
War
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sister
at
your
took
those
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how
big
second
the
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ever
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fly
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ship
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loaded
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along
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tell
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them
the
hell
intrepid,
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of
you
on
that
number
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with
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take the
in
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it.
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the
stuck
it
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go
last
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and
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and
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up six
Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
Dr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
the
the
he half
well only
was Nile
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afternoon
gets
only
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by
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assume
shipping.
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after
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to
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and
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there,
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burn
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have
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of
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hot,
ship
winner
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next
of
him
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tell
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ships
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in need
it
it’s
caused
to
fighter
was
on
in
a
got
do
sink
just
minute,
the
part
of
next
in
shakedown
to
cruise
in
one
about
tailback
killed
him
the
sink
Nile
Yorktown
can’t
because
typhoons,
pilot
of
of
room
armed
Gulf
the
or
in
Iowa.
but
as
it
Kinnick
down
put
by
the
not,
so
strong
war.
and
catches
they
of
once
cruise
the
push
it
it
Atlantic
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but
but
and
Paria.
there
won’t
I
out.
We
name
think
named
was
and
the
ups
not
Nile
the
to
on
on
be of
just
happened
to or
when
here’s body his be
wanting plane they
because that
the
think his was
flew
everything and
left Stadium.
mc
put
launched
life
wingman
wing
1
dazed
I
in
an
use
straight
kept
and
followed
he
the
and
and
it
my
Life
jacket,
old
he
in
to
bumped
at
and
plane
And
when
after
of
gave
checking
report.
and
the
send
every
was
airplane,
was
Magazine
and
course
ahead
tracked
gave
I’m
trash the
confused.
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his
sank
me
fine
I
about
a
Nile
his
came ball
I’m
report
C02
told
me
copilot
a
and
and
he
out
or
and
it
he
head
thumbs
him
came
game.
not
out and
a
was
do
drowned.
back
that
bottle,
sank
landed
until
he,
thumbs
Nile
that
Anyway,
31
going
of
whatever for
on
left. I
skipping
the
by
believe
Nile.
I’ve
and
fuel
with
said he
up
the
a
sank
or
to
I-Ic
about
little
Big
to
landed
and
up
wrote
We
never
instrument
and
make
got
to
he
it.’
got
change
with
when
and
it’s
10
you
get
and
while
I
was
were
out
three
they
had
out,
has
my
seen
in
a
true.
a
waved
it.
want
kicking
the
of
landing
still
life
the
no
it. launched
He
never and
a
walked
report
miles
the
big
the
panel
plane
I
You
raft
idea
to water
in
didn’t
was
to
he
airplane
coin,
with that
coin
black
able
out
and
me
out
they
left
can
he
and
out on
sank,
and
me
make
cockpit.’
in
had
and
with
of
it,
his
to
but
the
and
send
on
said,
he
smoke
front
right
his
hut
after
and
rescue
Niles
old
a
I
catapult
the
I’ve
was,
came
Nile’s
any
thought
problem,
it
parachute
this
‘Well,
walked
of
F4F
behind
if
his
wing,
out
I
read
sank
you effort
even
you
said,
the
back
is
wingman
picture
fighter
and
ready
what
we
about
know,
ship
waved
with
want
out
him
his
but
‘Well,
to
seat.
he
were
pull
on
and
to
that
the
to I
Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
Dr. Mr.
Mr.
Dr.
DuPrec:
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
That’s
No.
lifijacket
going
finished
Kappa
So he
He
Oh with
been
lifeboat
out Well,
The
Right. go
His
circling
Not I’m
just
you
out
didn’t
my
of
I’m
wingman.
sorry,
a
guy
it
confused
on’?
he
copilot
the
a
So
of
at
and
stood
think
goodness.
him
in
sure
tragedy.
one
that
opened
the
was
the
even Nile
...
but
the
that
year
when
he
University
he
on
turned
see
cockpit,
no,
a
side
was
or
never
realize
was
simple
was
might
the
his
they
What
he
of he
he
it
of
wing
the
law
around
confused.
canopy was
could
the
even
the
did
walked
had
have
what
sort
next’?
end
of
school.
copilot
in
32
airplane
waiting
that.
a
opened
have
Iowa
of
a
hit
and
of
was lifeboat
but
Where
tighter
out
thing
Nile.
He
his
pulled
he
left
that
happening
and
on
and
that
had
his
head
didn’t
and
before
in
to
the came
...
an
canopy
when
he
to
the
the
from
honor
his
and
he
wing
be,
could
make
parachute
out
C02
Nile
didn’t
wingman.
to
the
just
there?
you
or
and
him.
graduate
on
plane
have
any
bottle
got
didn’t
know,
the
even
waved
He
out
attempt
seat
gotten
wing
went
on
was
think
realize
in
of
pulling
and
his
at
law
the
or
down
a
out
me,
to
to
lifejacket
Phi
was
another
cockpit.
school.
what
get
do
that
if
I
Beta
he
was
he
it
a
that.
was
lifeboat
sank
hadn’t
1-Ic
He but Dr. DuPree: Well,we cameback aftershakedowncruiseto San Diegoagainandfrom
there we headed out to Tarawa. The Lexington’s first combat mission was
the landings at Tarawa.
Mr. Zambrano: Okay.
Dr. DuPree: And that was one of the bloodiest two or three day battles I’ve ever heard
of We killed, I think, ten thousand Japanese and lost about six thousand
Marines in seventy-two hours at Tarawa.
Mr. Zambrano: What was your assignment during that battle?
Dr. DuPree: The fighters had gone in and destroyed all the airplanes on the runway and
we were assigned gun positions to try to knock out the guns. I had an
interesting experience. My first flight at Tarawa when I started down the
flight deck I realized that instead of getting fifty-five inches of mercury in
manifold pressure, I was only getting thirty, but I didn’t realize that until I
was over halfway down the flight deck so I knew as 1approached the end of
the flight deck I didn’t have flying speed and I filt that I was going to crash
in the ocean that I closed my flaps and counter tiaps and I knew [was just
going to fall off the end of the flight deck and I hoped I would pick up
enough speed before I got to the water because 1was hitting the flaps again
and it would fly and I had a thousand pound bomb on it. [couldn’t drop the
bomb because I was afraid that the ship might hit the bomb and blow it up
although normally the bomb would have to fall for several seconds to arm.
You can’t take that chance when you’re talking about dropping a bomb in
front of your own ship.
33
Dr.
Mr.
Mr.
Dr.
DuPree:
Zambrano:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
accident
Well, Oh
wadding.
pound
only
somebody oil
draft
and and and
keep
so’
drop
thirty
couldn’t about
inches
hit speed
So
Right.
from
boy.
about
I
and
they
we
when
pilot kept
the
carburetor
it
it
inches
fifteen
bomb and
of
in
went
was
I
that
leaking
bomb
keep
had
flew
forty
the
mercury,
until
I
they
forgot
I
know
just
just
didn’t
off
of
down
changed
minutes
bomb
up
around
percent
the
landed
and
mercury
and
dived
the
out
a,
to
with
of
flight
you
to
happen.
no
circle
and
pull
Lexington
they
that
on
the
to
for
the
I power
towards
the
of
know,
the
was
as
the
climb
successfully
and
got
34
stuck
three
hanger
if
flaps
oil
squadron
I
decks
I
cotton
rolled
the
back
they
in
could
at
an
up
with
hours
the
cotton
and
there
all,
last
accident
deck
SO
just
and
to
off
ocean
wadding to
...
so
because
the
plane
they
a
until
the
took
wadding
my
told
the
I
to
thousand
I
they
said,
carburetor
called
try
night
wouldn’t
and
that
great
flight
to
they
an
me
asked
out
to
I
land
‘Well,
just
SBU
couldn’t
could
to
the
before
find
in
got
surprise
deck
feet.
of
fly
and
before
the me
ship
stufThd
the
have
loaded
back
out
so
away
have
I
I
carburetor
if
and
I
didn’t
carburetor
didn’t
far
catch and
what stayed
I
it
to
from
I
thought
been
it
flew
with so
got
from
with
mop
told
had
the
them
good. have
have
the to
in
a
but
cotton
a
the
them
it
a
to
trouble
the
serious
the
thousand
so
I
mission
up
dime
just
with
flying
could
keep
it
I
fleet
i’m
ocean
plane
think
took
and
I
thirty
this
was
the
the
and
he I
Mr. Mr.
Dr. Mr.
Dr.
Mr. Dr.
Dr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree: DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano: Zambrano:
Zambrano:
possibility
shoreline of head
of
had Well,
expected across
No,
wiped them not was combat
was
Do Well,
I seventy-two
Did
How
It
think
was
being
course
you
because
some
your
I
over
a
out
many
out
never
it
it
gun
a
out
the
I
mission
recall
was,
sounds
very
had
killed
of
and or
plane
with.
and
they
bad
Pacific
all
emplacements.
of
runs
the
got
not
they
hours.
three
from
close
swimming.
only
of
they
anything
weather
had
in
water.
sustain
like
any
I
the
at
against
quit
never
combat
caused
flights
the
Tarawa.
all a
a
call,
damage
zeros
it
dive-bombers
sixty
firing
ran
was
A
short
information
any
knew,
else
but
the
lot
The
it
35
because against
out
before
pound
You
a
damage?
or
I
of
when
all
Marines island
about
on
close
was
within
LST’s
not
but
them
never
it
that
pack
we
did
the
scheduled
but
you
the
they
call.
that
did
point
and
mission
lost
even
the
and
under
was
island,
know
tide
Marines
on
you
fire
battle’?
weren’t
I’m
time
their
of
LCI’s
them,
keep
got
was
at
have?
5’ó”
view,
whether
not
but
for
at
them
that
there
lives
took
much
all.
me
brought
tall
sure
so
the
by
probably
the
the
there
from
and
due
the
enough
and
next
the
you
whether
higher
fighters
tide
end
whether
to
the islands
them
flying
wasn’t
flight
knock
was
drowned
that
of
to
Marines
then
a
had
up
keep
the
a
high
and
in
tsunami
in
them
any
we
lot
close
we
the
third
about
already
my
knocked
there
higher
instead tide
...
first
out
to
target
day
we
and
or
the it
Dr.
Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
Mr.
Dr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
rear Now
back
I that And
DowdeH hoping
that than
Kwajalein, Air them, then
sinking, Officer Makin
it. above
I into After
I
had
later
can
We
Medal
flew
seat
was
a
that
they
we
to
I
tell
a
Tarawa
he
scrap
read
the
hit
know
Island,
regular
that
in
Tokyo
went
but
at after
to
was shot
with
you
expected
Wake
water.
the
for
Kwajalein.
that
yes.
let
I
with
I
that
sank
the
at
did
to
do
down
we
squadron
you?
that
we
him
gunner.
and
this
Kwajalein?
Kwajalein Island
So
you
a
Dauntless
islands
knock
came
hit
it
and
zero
repaired
fly
and
cruiser
a
that
but
New
recall
zero
in
That
then
His
a
back
the
that
and
a
I
was
couple
we
his
36
didn’t.
hole
Guinea,
a
name
little
patched
around
where
takes
night
the
it
my
had
hit,
Kwajalein
place
on
a
and
tragedy
in
cruiser
the
gunner
of
but
asked
short
They
was
two the
we
somebody
you
and
the
days,
Hollandia,
second
up
I
bow.
were
can’t
Dan
men,
Marines
to
first
ran
he, went
the
ran
for
who
and
we
fly,
Chief
hole
Dowdell, the
it
retreating
ashore
mission
remember
of
did
I
hit
next?
happened
aground
else got
he
December
and
Marine
were
you
in
Palau
had
Stafford,
a
had
to
the
we
hit
have
on
hut
not
wanted
keep
from
to
and
bow
to
hit
on
the
Corps.
to
the
keep
he
tall
sink
and
a
a
be
Truk,
exact
was
Peleliu,
from
Kwajalein,
Lexington,
regular and
cruiser.
Chief
enough
a
to
that
it it.
Chief
flying
they
get
but
from
sinking
sequence
I
had
was
night
we
crewman
a
I
I
went
to
Petty
got
shot
think
in
asked
hit
it
and
stay
I
and
my
was
an
got
at of
Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
Dr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
jammed
than food
engine
Lexington a
to
the don’t Lexington
That’s term, had six
Okay. screws, neutral
from
and
He’d
Heights, Dowdell,
D-O-W-E-D-E-L-L?
cloudless
Pearl
foot
rudder
a
came
twenty
in
the
get
that
know
total
Let
right,
Betty
position
the
something
wrench
Harbor
in
New
after
into
D-O-W-D-E-L-L.
back
was
me
back had
and
of
a
freezer
sky
if
knots
turn
D-E-L-L.
came
about
a
just
it
York. screws
Dan
knocked
to
with
fight
and
and
he
in was
and
and
come
and
go
the
and
like
was right
what?
one
a
drydock
he
the
the
He
with
back bright
on
there
neutral
because
Dan
wrecked
forty-five
stayed
back
able
hundred
two a
never
one
up
both
37
hole
Marines
a
was
the
was
moon
to
forward
on
second.
home
and
position
sides
went
down
in
turn
you
wake
the
a
the
about
and
they
the
thousand
little
that
or
with
right
couldn’t so
...
to
screw
there
The
screws. ship
eighty
and
army
got
the
college
a
by
and
chief was
two
nineteen
or
name
stuck
hand
and
him
boat
under
on
the
or,
horsepower
like
the
thousand
run
petty
forward
On
the
destroyed
and
out
if Captain
wouldn’t
left,
put
of
a
broad
the
the
he
the
torpedo
one
year
your
officer
of
he
the
couldn’t
but
screw
water
Lexington,
there
screws
side
was
horsepower.
daylight
old
rudder
cut
gunner,
in
the
all
be
in
that
a
kid
or
each
until
on
off
and
rudder
of
wild going
the
find
at
the
the
had
from back
the
the
but
and
about
screw
if
we
fantail
it
other
Indian.
a
one
that’s
power
in
had frozen
about
was
he
got
a
Jackson
in
a
twin
less
side,
put
so
a
turn so
four
of
back
the
a
it
the
the I
Mr.
Dr.
Dr. Mr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
that
parachute.
legs we
me
doing
cockpit
sleeve
from
At
Was
Oh,
Was gunner on
not from the
Pardon? Japanese,
Dowdell seat
skipper
that
leave
were
but
skipper
leave
the
yeah,
hit
gunner,
he
he
Pearl
the
I
while
just
I point
and
the
plane
and
a decided
a
up
guess
anymore.
rear
came
the
pretty
pretty
he
he’d
Well,
Harbor
tail
one
he
pulled
at
he
his
I
we
was
ship
had
seat
was
about
flew
he
flew
up
of
fight
day
good
good name
to
were
I
a
the
was
gotten
he
didn’t
for
and
up
making and
kick
I’ll
good
with
up
and
four
every
took
airplane
the
gunner?
gunner?
and
firing
was
fixing said,
stay
Dowdell
straight
him
when
jump
away
me
gunner.
thousand
38 next
flew
my
time
McElheney,
my
on
‘If
at
out
for
to
gunner
and
six
he
the
out
a
firing
from
you
straight
through
do
he
the
of
and
towed
We
found
months
ship
tore
immediately
another
was
feet
the
let
rest
all
I
run
had
and
both
me
squadron.
until
out
ahead. sleeve
and
on
falling
to
my
out
of
and
a
and
so
be
land
shore
the
a
loop
got
mid-air
wing
Dowdell
that
we
couple
I
your
Ralph
and I
didn’t
I
debris war.
hit
an
because
agreed
hoped
go
and
Mac
leave,
But
and
by airplane
gunner,
he
back
collision
of
saw
his
jumped
have
could
and the
did
he
I
panels
he
had
to
and
head
I
home.’
what
knocked
tail
a
take
would
wanted
I
a
I
and
ioop
was
trained
land
finally
gunner
won’t
about
of
out
was
of
the
him
he
having
the
And
around
jar
his
that
and
to
it
out
fool
flew
even
the
my
ten
as
airplane.
off,
and
up
he
plane
he
his
of
my
was
miles
rear
on
sure
with
the
but
did
go the trouble pushing out because when the plane was spinning like it was with
no wing and it cut the throttle controls so the engine was running wide open
too and it was just spinning like atop. And I get almost to the top of the
cockpit trying to get out of there and when I relaxed my hold on the side of
the plane, the wind would knock me back in my seat. That happened a
couple of times so I decided I needed to figure out how to take advantage of
that centrifugal force spin and just slide over the side and it would throw me
out and that’s what happened. My leg hit the tail of the airplane. I had a big
scar under my knee and that’s the only accident, the only damage I ever had
in combat and that wasn’t in combat that was ten miles out from Pearl
Harbor. But when I finally got out of the plane and pulled the rip cord I was
down to about twenty-five hundred feet and Dowdell passed me on the way
to the water and he waved to me and I waved back and I asked him if he
was hurt and he said his legs were beat up a little bit, but he was fine. And
then I looked at the water and the Fletcher had already launched a boat to
pick us up. They saw the action on the radar and stopped the boat and put
the life rafis over and came over to me and I told them I wasn’t injured but
Dowdell was. ‘Pick him up and take him back to sickbay’ and they did.
They came hack and picked me up and both of us were on the Fletcher
within twenty-three minutes so that wasn’t a long journey.
Mr. Zambrano: So you weren’t in the water very long, then?
Dr. DuPree: No, not at all. And of course I had a life jacket and all I had to do was
and I knew they were going to come back and pick me up as soon as they
39
Dr. Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
wear but
got
have
Oh water
Anyway, green height terrifying
He the runway he Well, Dowdell
skipper and coming him, assigned
Right!
Dowdell
pulled
never
gosh!
tower
once
Dowdell
said,
he
to
for
a
card
I
to
And
guess
second
get
said,
up
landed
and
the
we
him didn’t
and
take
‘That
flew
Dan
his
to
and
that
and
you
Dowdell
he
be
eastern
got
into
ripcord
‘Well,
I
to
lucky
his
see
became
any
ran
picked
he with
time
said
guy
in
know
a
a
free
the
non-flying
ID
if
young
an
tried
out
more.
is
for
he
half Dan
I
his
and
of
card
airplane
stayed
sickbay
and
could
how
no
of
it
the
was
him
to
the
wheels
up
it
of
ensign
if
gas
DuPree!
the
40
jump
and
vice-president
was
to
you’re
airplane
the
an
and
get
that
in
job.’
parachute in
so
swim.
with
go
expert
the
United
after
a
up
the
out
walked
and
that
he
job.’
take
He
not
I
squadron
and
no
had
Philippine
ain’t
of
it
He
on
that
was
swimmer,
said,
was wings,
going the
the
So
States
Dowdell
one
flared
a
got
into
experience
flying
of
a
Mae
he
swimming
airplane
no
quick
‘That’s
his
of
Sears
on
his
to
worked
and
spinning
problem.
out
the
West,
Sea
fly
friend
another
with
commanding
but
saw
experience.
he
and
Roebucks
first
with
battle
fine.
until
he
that
didn’t
him
these
right?
in
test
Bentley
went
with
flights
couldn’t
Well,
him
the
cruise
I’m
it
I
and
for
anymore!’
rode
learned
hot
even
tower
all
a
I
going
lady’s
him
we
It
full
guess
you
officers
he
who
and
sparks
over
to
was
swim
have
were
made
so
after
throttle,
know
a
that
they
over
was
ready-to
we’ll stop
the
he
And
a
office
a
in
that.
with
had
his
to
lick!
and
the
the a
Dr. Mr.
Dr. Mr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
painting
name
‘I’m can
‘Don’t call that
in-law
gunner Right.
He Wow! president
from And until
they
for and speak
So college
from
they
got
lady’s
talk
Dan’
was
said,
familiar
brought
that
I
up
Montgomery
on
Dan’s
don’t
had
do
into
that
education.
took
him
that
in
his
it
was
he
‘Well,
of
anything
ready-to-wear,
painted
and
Boston,
kidney
used
name!
Montgomery
even
says,
out
she
language
with
it
in
Mr.
I and
some
you’ve
of
wanted
did,
to
know
Dowdell?
that
‘He’s
And
a
Van
Wards
failure
it
he
I
about
play
picture
can’t
but
you
Harvard
started
and
picture.
after
called
made
what
fixing
to
a
I
41
and
your
can
Wards
sax
to
and
remember
won’t
he
send
of
take
he’d
they’re
that’s
home
so didn’t
a
in
me
had
MBA
dialysis
My
to
a
decision
him
I
dive-bomber
one
do
for
come
the
been
called
and
to
wife
what
and
anything
speak
a
the
graduates
of
the
talking
take
same
said,
copy
until
successful
off
the
drew
when
eastern
him
to
boys
he
dialysis
theirs
job.
that
big
turn
‘Dr.
of
you
did
about.
and
until
that
with
he
name
the
bands
and
dialysis
So
this
until
half
DuPree,
get
so
got
I
same
picture’.
for
and
I
told
he
my
of
he
Here’s
get
now. over
this
of
home
he
before
was
several
course
one
walked
number
him
the
picture. and
your
retired.
picture.’
sir,
to
He
executive
of
my
United
he
And
that
die.
these
the
picture.’
you
they
was
his
years
had
in
resignation!’
on
I
my
I war,
If
friends
one
need
have
He
said,
fellows
a
didn’t
it
a
anybody
States
in
rear
mother-
call
and
vice-
said,
Van
day
And
sales
to
a
seat
his to so then his grandchildren came to see him and spent the month with him so
he lived another year and then he called me and said, ‘1have lived for a
miserable year. This dialysis is absolutely the pits. I have one decent day a
week and I can’t live like this anymore. I’m going to check in the hospital
and I’m not taking any more dialysis. I’m going to stay there until I die!’
And he walked in there, didn’t take his clothes off and stood by the side of
the bed. When he was unconscious he fell over on the bed and he died right
there in that position. I wrote a letter to the fire department that used to take
him to emergency sometimes to the hospital on the weekends when his
dialysis needed to be done on an emergency basis and I sent a little
contribution with the letter. I got a letter from the chief that said, ‘I’m so
sorry we didn’t get to know Mr. Dowdell when he was well because he sure
was a hell of a man when he was sick!’
Mr. Zambrano: Oh boy. How long ago was this that he died?
Dr. DuPree: About three years ago.
Mrs. DuPree: Longer then that!
Dr. DuPree: Jeannie said longer then that. How much longer Jeannie?
Mrs. DuPree: Probably about five years.
Dr. DuPree: Jean estimates five years.
Mr. Zambrano: Oh, okay.
Dr. DuPree: I know he died in August, but I’m not sure what year it was. His wife
remarried about a year ago and she’s still living up in that area in Illinois.
42 When he moved to Montgomery Wards he moved to a little town right near
the Iowa border along the Mississippi River across the river from Iowa.
Mrs. DuPree: Lanark!
Dr. DuPree: Lanark, Illinois, Jean says.
Mr. Zambrano: Lanark?
Dr. DuPree: Lanark, yeah.
Mr. Zambrano: Okay. I wanted to ask you about the Philippine Sea. You mentioned a little
earlier that’s where you won your Navy Cross ... I’m sorry, you received
your Navy Cross when you dive bombed a carrier.
Dr. DuPree: That’s right.
Mr. Zambrano: Can you tell me a little more about that’?
Dr. DuPree: WelL that was the first Battle of the Philippine Sea. Now we hadn’t had a
fleet battle since Midway which was in June of 1942 and this was June of
1944. two years later. You know, I need to stop a minute. I’m going to hand
the phone to Jean and I’ll be back with you in just a minute.
Mr. Zambrano: Okay, well, i’ll tell you what; I’ll stop the recording for now and just let me
know when you’re back on.
Dr. DuPree: Okay.
Mr. Zambrano: Okay.
[Interruptioni
Mr. Zambrano: Okay, we’re hack on!
Dr. DuPree: You know I want to tell you a story about some things that happened while
we were at Maui waiting fir the Lexington to be fixed.
43 Mr. Zambrano: Oh, okay.
Dr. DuPree: One day we had some old thousand pound bombs that had been in storage
there at Maui for years and they decided that they didn’t want to put them
on ships because they were afraid they wouldn’t explode so they decided
we’d have a dive bombing practice hitting them just south of Maui and I got
in the airplane and cranked it up and all of a sudden I could smell gasoline
and it started skipping and the engine cutout and then it bust into flames
with that thousand pound bomb on it. Of course I put on the brakes and cut
off the gas but it was too late. The airplane burned and finally the heat
cranked that bomb casing and the TNT went off, blew it up in the air two or
three hundred feet and I had run over to a steel hanger and got behind it
with Dowdell. I was the gunnery officer at the time and I had just lectured
on the difference in a low order detonation and a high order detonation.
High detonation means that the fuse sets off the bomb and it blows with
total force, but low order detonation is when the bomb fuse doesn’t work
and the TNT goes off from fire like that one did. I said, ‘This is going to be
a low order detonation. It probably won’t even blow a hole in the ground,
which it did not. It didn’t blow a hole in the ground, but it blew that airplane
way up in the air and the old chief looked at me and said, ‘Well, I’m damn
glad that was a low order detonation!’ Because it shook the hanger and it
shook the island, everybody on the island heard the explosion. They thought
the Japanese had started bombing Maui.
Mr. Zambrano: My goodness.
44
Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
Dr. Mr.
Dr.
DuPree
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Lexington
Right. determine burning
When
and
Right. engine engine
hooked
Yeah,
course came
Had ground
ground
field
Well, bomber
Oh, what
So
I
it
gosh.
no
had
to
happened
loose
caught
I’m
that
Gosh.
I
it
catches.
is
because
you
get
to
idea,
can!
up
explosion.
had
to
turn
what
the
very
got
happened,
and
out
or
go
can
Did
You
fire but
an
on
engine
out
what,
around
of
blowing
fortunate
really
to
imagine
electric
all
the
it
you
and
said
the
to their
...
the
but
the
electric
and
that
it
ever
way,
happened.
I
town
you
other
exploded
island,
don’t
fuel
Pacific?
up
it
what
45 that
one
gasoline
was
determine
had
but
and
talking
pump
pump
planes
it
know
of
a
that
something
if
a
caught
falling
tragedy
the
couple
that
and
started
to
as
the
to
just
whether
first
why
thing
burned.
build
well
the
into
fire
Japanese
of
scrambled
that
thing
sailors
wrong
flowing it
as
stories
while
had
pieces
up
did
the
would
a
But
the you
manual
happened
that?
gas
had
with
club
it
about
by
there
gas
out
do to
was
have
line
nothing
the
the
explaining
the
when
pressure
around
and
still
was
the
ruptured
been.
time
peripheral
fifty
gas
the
time
sitting
no
you
to
line
it the
feet
fuel
before
way
do
got
crank
before
to
hot
or
and
with
on
of
pump
through
them
just
of
to
engine
the
the
the
of
the the
that the Dr. DuPree: Well, I was going to tell you another story about how I met Admiral Nimitz.
Bucky Waterhouse was the chief civilian defense officer for the island of
Maui. He and Pappy Cook were both Cornell graduates and raised horses
over on the plantations down there, that’s sugar cane plantations and
pineapple plantations. Now Pappy was a descendent of Admiral Cook who
found the islands and his father owned the island of Molokai, where the
leper colony was. Bucky’s father and mother lived on Pearl Harbor and they
owned land all over (he islands. Anyway, Bucky came over to the hanger
one day and said, ‘Dup, today is mother’s birthday and I’ve never missed
her birthday and I can’t get a flight until tonight, but she wants me to come
and have lunch with her. Do you suppose you could get a dive bomber and
let’s fly over to Pearl Harbor and have lunch with mother?’ and I said,
‘Well, I’ve got to ask Ralph’ and he said, ‘Sure.’ So we got in the dive
bomber and we flew Pearl Harbor. He said, ‘Just fly to the house and she’ll
come pick us up.’ I said, ‘You don’t want me to ask for transportation?’ He
said, ‘No, mother will pick us up at the runway.’ So we flew over the house
and I realized when we flew over her house that she lived right next door to
Admiral Nimitz, right out there at the naval air station at Pearl Harbor and
by the time we landed and taxied over to the where they park the planes,
here comes this black Cadillac across the end of the airfield along the taxi
strip right up to our airplane and I notice a Marine officer with his crew and
in a carryall coming toward the Cadillac at the same time and I’m
wondering what he was going to say about Mrs. Waterhouse driving down
46 the taxi strip. But he pulled right by the back door of the Cadillac, jumped
out and opened the door for her, saluted and said, ‘Good morning, Mrs.
Waterhouse. How may I help you today? How may be of service to you?
And she said, ‘No, I just came over to pick up my son Bucky’s and his
friend Lieutenant DuPree. Today is my birthday and they’re going to have
lunch with me.’ And then the Marine captain saluted and that was the end of
the problem. But I wondered about all that, you know, you’re saluting a
Cadillac riding down the runway and the Marine captain knew who she was
before she even got out of the car.
Mr. Zambrano: Really.
Dr. DuPree: And we were having a conversation about Admiral Nimitz and she asked
me if I’d like to meet him and I said, ‘Sure I would!’ So she picks up the
phone and she dials one number. Somebody answered the phone and she
said, ‘Chet, this is ...‘ and she told him her first name, they were on a first
name basis, obviously, she said, ‘Today is my birthday and my son Bucky
and his friend flew out from Maui to a birthday lunch with me. Are you
busy for lunch? Would you join us for lunch’?’And Admiral Nimitz
apparently said, ‘Well, sure.’ He’d be happy to have lunch with us. So he
came over in his full dress whites with ribbons all the way down to his belly
button and I was just dressed in a khaki uniform with no tie which was the
uniform of the day for the summer time in Maui, and Admiral Nimitz said.
‘Have a seat, son. This is a social call.’ And he was about as friendly and
nice a gentleman as [ever met. In fact, he offered to let me use his
47
Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
Mr.
Dr. Mr.
Dr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Gosh! Yes.
Oh!
The
government.
built.
Pardon?
So
the
So
But
she’s
the until
Harbor
the kind
Bucky after in
lunch.
stay. apartment
the
their
their
possession
Japs
attack
So
Waterhouse
I
he
the
invitation,
I
thought
going
So
Pacific
never
He
said,
that
to
left
family
family
hit
war
was
the
and
asked
over
explains
and
to
I
‘Well,
got
was
asked
US
that
and
that
had
be
of
gave
gave
the
but
she
me
family
back
Pearl
living
government
over.
was
I
the
never
mother
believe
BOQ,
he
Mrs.
said,
a
them
how
them
one
lot
to
an
did
Harbor.
I
owned
next
Pearl
left.’
said,
48
Waterhouse
‘Oh of
she
interesting
if
the
and
the
make
never
I
specific
I
answered
door
was
came
yes’
land?
land?
and
‘Well,
She
only
Harbor
Pearl
They
that
likes
there.
to
reserved
she
said,
into
time
questions
Admiral
story,
Harbor
offer
I’m
lived
if
and
to
was
most
she
‘Oh, town
you
talk
amazed
had
to
there
how
and
a
was
of
before
saw
me.
I
lot
about
Nirnitz
and
don’t
about
an
them
she
the
living
before
to
And
that
Admiral
opportunity
didn’t
stay
planned
they
this,
government
plan
to
how
as
you
we
in
his
the
in
long
but
gave
have
to
Pearl
things
had
their
were
Nimitz?
satisfaction,
naval
to
leave.’
they
as
it
a
to
a
stay
Harbor
home
place
she
to here
very
came
were
use
base gave
the
here
And
lives.’
that
during
nice
to
and
US going
into
was
Pearl
when but
Dr.
Mr.
Dr.
Dr. Mr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
thirteen
know because
flight
superstitious
twelve
never
squadron, Philippine much Tinian, Now
Right. take That
when him,
Philippine never
flight, covered Wow,
...
requested
off
was
you
we’ll
deck
how
a
flown
opposition. spoke
Joe
what
flights
big
and
airplane
from.
it
the
know,
the
was
in
Bryan
much
Sea
Sea
that
get
boat
Guam.
a
landings
with
to
our
about
that
only
story
down
The
back
going
battle
him
day.
in
came
and
air
courage
who
he
any
We
time
different
last
the
Now
to
other
group,
to
in
He
ride
it
to
we
there,
of
just
tell.
wrote
in
the
was
the
number
combat
that
be
looked
us
hit
Saipan
to
in
49
then
it
landed
Philippine That
New
his
and
and
his
took
we
drydock
my
I Truk,
...
the
met
thirteenth
that
thirteenth
mission
covered
thirteen.
Admiral
here
at
rear
I
was
Guinea
book
was
mc
did
and
him
the
we
time.
seat.
quite
to he
at
a
not
number Sea
hit
Mission
built
and
tough
Pearl
get
was
I
the
and
The
Nimitz
flight
know
flew
Hollandia
flight He
battle,
a
talked
in
an
landings
meeting.
just
Guadalcanal
Harbor
reason had
battle,
that
and
was
airstrip
Beyond
and
that
and
was
staring
in
never
to
airplane!’
we
at
we
the
the
he
at
but
he
him
very
and
at
Guam.
were
there
New
walked
said,
Darkness,
hadn’t
meantime,
gentleman
[unclear],
flown
Tinian
at
personally.
you
area.
much
them.
the
Guinea,
for
He ‘You
On
saw
with
flown
out
Well,
number
didn’t
the
said,
in
this
He
at
about
him
don’t
before
on
was
view
B-29’s
our
Saipan,
had
we
I
last
is
he’d
‘I
the
have
saw
but
was
the
the to determined to fly with you, but I’m superstitious about the number thirteen
and I sure didn’t want to go.’ Anyway, we bombed and strafed gun
emplacements on the Orote Peninsula in Guam and I turned around and
firing at us and Joe got a good feel of what anti-aircraft fire was They
were firing behind us, they didn’t hit us, but they fired very close behind
that rear seat where he was sitting and he didn’t tell anybody his
superstition until we got safely back.
Mr. Zambrano: What was his last name again?
Dr. DuPree: Pardon?
Mr. Zambrano: What was Joe’s last name?
Dr. DuPree: Joe Bryan, Joe Bryan III. He was an editor for the Saturday Evening Post
and he wrote movies a good bit too, he came out to the Lexington to write
the life history of Admiral Mitscher and Admiral Mitscher wouldn’t even
talk to him. 1-lesaid, ‘I’m not fighting this war, I’m running the fleet! You
need to talk to these boys that have got some stories to tell you!” And he
ended up writing the book Mission Beyond Darkness. He never wrote the
life history of Admiral Mitschcr, he also wrote a book about Admiral
Halsey, and he wrote a book called Sword Over the A’Iantle.That one of his
ancestors got from, uh ... it was said that the sword is the sword that
General Lee gave at the end of the Civil War and he had a descendent and
that he gave it back to a descendant of Lee, one of Joe’s ancestors and that
sword is hanging over the mantle of his ancestral home at Fredericksburg,
Virginia.
50
Dr. Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
Dr. Mr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
Well,
Sure,
knows!
By
Oh
the
didn’t biggest
Duchess?’
the
that apologized
and
Jean’s
a cards book.
realizing
from this
wrote
I
Really!
have
letter
the
boy!
people
Duchess?’
he
book
long
I Joe
our
and
He
continue
a
way,
could
aunt a
said,
to
wimp
So
story
Well,
copy
that
that story
box
lived
at
the
all
of
he
He
for
gave
Jean
home.
‘Well,
have
of
England
publisher
he’s
called
thought
I
is
I
of
said,
that’s I
the
losing
knew
ever
with
as
a
said,
745,
the
me
asked
sudden
there
that
been
Duke
And
which
‘That’s
knew
book
The
the
an a
Swainsboro, the
‘Tell
contact
he
should
copy
done.
me
and
king.’
interesting
in
I
Duke
and
author
was Windsor
51
I
asked
one
Sword
and
France
me
lost
absolutely
if
they
of
the
you
the
be
with
do
and
I
about
the
that
track
him
said,
and
delighted
Duchess
forwarded
biggest
Over
you
would
Story
for
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Japanese had were mostly gone by the time we got to the ships. Now the next day we were tracking the ships by PBY and submarine and
Commander Snowden had the idea that he could lead a search mission with fighter planes and head towards Tokyo because he thought the ships would go back to Tokyo after they lost all their airplanes on June the 19th, but they didn’t. They went towards the Philippine Islands which put them under the protection of the Japanese Air Force flight cover. When we finally found them, we launched 225 planes off of about a half dozen carriers and we got in the plane and started to take off a little fellow came up to each plane and said, ‘New position of Jap fleet!’ And it was about 60 miles further then they had said when we were still arguing about whether they were in range.
Then we took off and rendezvous and headed out to the Jap fleet and then we got our second collection of positions and, by the way, that first position was incorrect. ‘Those were tankers, the carriers arc 75 miles further then we
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Zambrano:
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Paul
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Dr.
Mr.
Mr.
Dr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
Zambrano:
people.
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plane
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Mr.
Mr.
Dr.
Dr. Mr.
DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
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from
left
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Dr.
Dr.
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Mr.
Dr.
Mr.
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DuPree:
DuPree:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
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Okay.
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get
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Mr.
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Dr.
Dr.
Mr.
Dr.
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DuPree:
Zambrano:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
DuPree:
Zambrano:
the
gotten
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Transcribed by
Mike Zambrano, Jr. Round Rock, Texas 9 October 2007
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