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THE FIRST MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 26 NOVEMBER 2020 ENGLISH VERSION HANSARD NO: 200 THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East) Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. (Mmadinare) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. Specially Elected Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of the Opposition) Maun West Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. (Acting Opposition Whip) Shoshong Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. Tonota Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. Ghanzi South Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE FIRST MEETING OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 26 NOVEMBER, 2020 CONTENTS PAGE (S) SPEAKER’S REMARKS.....................................................................................................................................1 Response To The President’s Speech Motion (Resumed Debate)................................................................................................................1-18, 26-51 Leader of The House’s Question Time............................................................................................................19-25 Thursday 26th November, 2020 RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT’S SPEECH Motion (Resumed Debate) Thursday 26th November, 2020 That was a distortion and deliberately misleading the nation, hence I request that she withdraws that statement THE ASSEMBLY met at 11:00 a.m. because when we talk about the rule of law, we imply (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) where you interfere with certain procedures. We did not interfere with any procedure and it is within our P R A Y E R S rights. There is what is called conscience of freedom and association. So if we have refused to get into the * * * * DIS Committee, it was not a disrespect... SPEAKER’S REMARKS MR SPEAKER: Honourable Hikuama, can you put a MR SPEAKER (MR PULE): Pray be seated. finger on the point of order that you are standing on. Order! Order! Honourable Members, good morning What order has she violated? Honourable Members! Let us start the business of today MR HIKUAMA: Yes, that is the one. It is misleading with response to the President’s speech. I understand we to say being part of a rogue and deceptive structure like are not yet quorated Honourable Members. Can we ring DIS was a disrespect for the rule of law. It is out of order the bell? because we… …Silence… MR SPEAKER: I have heard you Honourable Member; MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, I am worried I think I have heard you. about our observation of time. MR HIKUAMA: Allow me to finish Honourable RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT’S Speaker. We, as the Opposition, it was just a protest, we SPEECH were protesting against a rogue and deceptive structure, we were protesting against a bad law. Therefore, it is not Motion a disrespect for the rule of law. (Resumed Debate) HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker! MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members, when the MR SPEAKER: Honourable Hikuama! House adjourned yesterday, Honourable Dr Dow, was on the floor. She was left with 23 minutes 9 seconds. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker! DR DOW (SPECIALLY ELECTED): Thank you Mr MR SPEAKER: Honourable Balopi, please wait Speaker… a moment and let me react to this one first and try to attend to it. I was here during the debate and I do not HONOURABLE MEMBER: You were gossiping remember Dr Dow specifically accusing somebody. I about the Leader of the Opposition (LOO). thought she just spoke to the rule of law and how it is applied. She said if there is a law that has been put in MR HIKUAMA: On a point of order. Honourable place, we need to observe it and she gave your protest as Speaker, thank you. I am rising on a point of order, an example. For me I do not think she was out of order, which I could have done yesterday in line with what because she was making her own observation. So there was said by Honourable Dr Unity Dow. There are some is no way in which the Honourable Dr Dow has been out statements which she uttered which were misleading, so of order as far as I am concerned, there is no argument if they could be left like that, they could mislead the about it. Therefore, Dr Dow, can you go ahead with nation forever. I am not a lawyer, but I am a teacher, a your presentation. social activist and a politician in that order. It is on the point of rule of law, where she said the way we were HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker! speaking or the Leader of the Opposition was violating HONOURABLE MEMBERS: Point of order Mr the rule of law, or he does not have respect for the rule Speaker! of law, if the Umbrella for Democratic Change (UDC) or the Opposition refuses to be part of the Directorate of MR SPEAKER: Are you discussing my ruling Intelligence and Security Services (DISS) Committee. Honourable Member or are you coming up with a She said that shows lack of respect for the rule of law. different point of order? Hansard No 200 1 Thursday 26th November, 2020 RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT’S SPEECH Motion (Resumed Debate) HONOURABLE MEMBER: It is just a procedure Mr The point I was making Mr Speaker, was that before Speaker. you can start a review process, which is a process not an event, there has to be debates, there has to be arguments HONOURABLE MEMBER: No, it is not a ruling. both within families, communities, and of course in the HONOURABLE MEMBER: Procedure Mr Speaker! nation at large. We do not review the Constitution for just the sake of reviewing, you look at what is the harm MR SPEAKER: I said we cut this thing here. that you want to prevent, what is the good that you want Honourable Dow, has not been out of order as far as I to promote and what are some of the issues that have am concerned. So let her continue her debate. been bubbling within the nation, that we believe deserve special discussion and address.