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You came in thru the bathroom write it this month. I say unfor­ its policy of allowing new window. tunately becai members in the station after I hate to bitch, but you ripped off a t I would nee business hours. We may have starving artist with no insurance. I tethispiec e.andallthos to spend money that would work shitty jobs for low pay to buy is are gen erally unplea: have been spent on better the tools I need to create. I suppose equipment on a better security everything you stole can be replaced CiTR recently hosted Chap­ system instead. So ifyou have eventually, but that videocassette is l±ff ter II! of an annual event that any information, no matter the ONLY record we have of our tour ^ we like to call DJ Sound War. how insignificant it may seem, across Kanada last year. Please have Overall, things went very well about any of these thefts the heart to return it to us undamaged. and, as far as I know, all of please, please call me at CiTR DOGEATDOG those who attended the two-day (822-3017) or call the RCMP Box 4642 Main PO C/O 6138 SUB blvd. event had a great time. How­ at 224-1322. We don't need to Vancouver, BC ever, someone decided that they know who you are or how you V6B4A1 Vancouver B.C. needed the cartridges and know but we do need you help. V6T 1Z1 weights from our turntables And to the people who took MILD-MANNERED BY more than we did and stole these items, I hope that it was NIGHT...CURSING them. Someone also stole a num­ worth it. I realize you have no MOTHERFUCKER BY DAY ber ofthe items that we had for intention of giving them back. , (free) door-prizes including a But perhaps knowing that you Dear Airhead package of 10 CDs, a package have fucked the 330 people I have a bone to pick with the people of 10 cassettes, 3 t-shirts, and a who use those turntables and AIRHEAD at CiTR. Why the hell would your hat. Someone also stole our caused those same people to station manager protest the move­ lieves that all parties interested n's—Earl the Pearl—bag curse you each and every time not only directed to you, Julie, ment of Coast 1040 radio to the FM in receiving an FM frequency t contained 2 CDs, keys, a they enter the station will be but to all those other folks who band? I hke and listen to CiTR all the should have the opportunity to I pager, business cards, IDanda enough to cause you just a have called to yell at me about time but sometimes I just can' t handle apply whether they are a CFOX small amount of cash. We don 't slight twinge of remorse. If not, how terrible CiTR is for not a few of the blubbering idiots on air. clone, an "alternative" rock really care too much about the FUCK YOU. supporting Coast Radio in their I know Coast is just too commercial station or an ethnic community door prizes, heck we were go- FM endeavor. WHY DON'T for its own good but christ sometimes station. This does not mean that g to give them away anyhow, YOU READ THE FUCKING IN­ Linda Scholten, you need a break, and like it or not, CiTR believes Coast would not it Earl would really like to get TERVENTION!?! CiTR Station Manager AM or FM, some of us will fre­ be the best application, merely s stuff back as would CiTR. The first thing you would quently flip back and fourth between that CiTR believes everyone So if anyone knows anything discover upon reading is that stations whether we admit it or not. should have a chance to be con­ nit these thefts please call CiTR intervened against Coast After all, what does a non profit sta­ sidered for one of the last two atCiTR, 822-3017. c do n r tion like yourselves have to lose any I agrt available fre he second piece of bad news the procedure takt way? I think that the CiTR and Coast The I thin that I have to pass on is that together provide the diversity that CRTC in their handling of would discover upon reading CiTR was robbed on Sunday, this city needs right now, and God Coast's application. The nor­ the intervention is that CiTR April 25. Two Technics SL-1800 And when we catch you we're knows we have some musical wounds mal procedure followed in the makes no mention whatsoever MARK2 turntables (serial going to drag you through the to lick in this town. So as far as I'm allocation of an FM applica­ of any other objection. So, for #DA9$10B007 and#DA9810Bl 17) mud (and the courts) like the concerned this puts you in the trash tion calls for the consideration all those people who think that i were removed from the station fucking swine you are. can with the rest of those dumpy of all other qualified applican­ CiTR is scared of Coast, shame sometime in the evening . We stations that did the same. Shame on ts for the allocation. The CRTC on you! Maybe next time you have some leads and are cur­ then allocates that available will show a little more faith in rently looking for anyone who Loyal hstener despite your selfish channel to the applicant pro- us. And to all those Coast DJs complimentary service to the who are slagging CiTR on-air, tion. We really need your sup­ JOIN THE CLUB Julie Barkhard market, in this case the Van­ thanks for the publicity! port in tracking down these P.S. Now that Coast 1040 is up for couver lislenership. This was turntables as the replacement Attention All Thieves!! sale why doesn't Good Boy Produc­ NOT the case when Coast ap­ Linda Scholten, cost is high and CiTR operates If you, or anyone you know, has tions buy it up and start the Cruel plied for the 95.3 FM frequency. CiTR Station Manager. on a very tight budget...meaning any idea where our 120 minute-8 Elephant station. Why not, they've David Marsden and Western we cannot afford to replace this miiumeter video cassette labelled had shows everywhere else in town. World applied for lhat channel, "Note: All "Airhead" letters equipment. 1 must say that this "Tour 92" is, please contact us at applications were called for, are published as they are j theft disturbs me greatly. We 589-0714. NO QUESTIONS Ya know, I wish that one day and the CRTC granted Z95.3 here to provide a free ser- received. So, if the gram­ ASKED!! We just want it back. people will be intelligent enough FM the licence. Since there are B, both to the people who mar is bad and they read The video cassette was with a to check the facts before they only two FM allotments left in j listen and to the people who Sony Hi8 Video Camera inside a like a piece of shit it's the rant on about an issue that they the Vancouver market, CiTR be­ 'olunteer their on-air program­ metal case covered with sk8 & know nothing about. Now this is fault of the writer, not ours.

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A second man went down with a cry was Danko. of pain as his knees were each blown apart and a third bullet ploughed through his chest. Popeye Danko was a huge man, almost monstrous. He stood silently against the wall holding a had Korsakov's gun. polished AK-47 and listened through one earphone to periodic updates from his security team. With two down, the third was easy: one quickly aimed shot to the head finished him. He wore a mask: a black nylon hood which concealed his face completely. The others had never Popeye now had only Sergei to deal with...and Sergei was out of bullets. seen the face underneath the mask, but none had to...Danko's presence was unmistakable. Sergei was frozen with terror, for he knew that the Sailor Man would not shoot an unarmed When the three who were seated looked up from their papers, Sergei spoke,"Gendemen, opponent if he did not have to; he would kill them with his bare hands. Sergei watched silendy the opportunity at present is golden. We have all the security we need, and our saboteurs have as Popeye approached, eyes squinted and pipe clenched tighdy in his seaman's teeth. "My God," been on American soil for over three years." He glanced at each one of them with penetrating thought Sergei, "those bloodshot eyes...he's on Spinach!" No sooner had realization hit Sergei eyes, "It is time to put our machine into motion.. .time for the downfall of the American empire!" when Popeye spoke again, "I've had all I can stand, and I can't stands no more." Two anchor He punctuated his statement by hammering a fist on the table. tattoes streaked upward — there was a sharp crack as Sergei's neck broke. But the threat to "What do you recommend as our first line of action?" Korsakov, the man to Sergei's left, Popeye's life was not ended; he ducked and rolled as a spray of bullets tore through the air where asked with controlled excitement. his chest had been. Danko had returned. "Ah," their leader popped open the latches of his black briefcase,"our first move will be a Still in motion from his evasive roll, Popeye's right arm shot out like a whip and sent a brilliant one," his voice was anxious, "and it will happen tonight." As he finished his statement handful of razor-sharp shuriken at his agressor. Only one made contact with Danko's arm, but his statement, his gaze lifted to Danko at the far side of the room. Danko had his right hand over the projectiles were unexpected enough to make him drop the rifle. Popeye was almost on top his ear, as if listening more intendy to his security team. There was a visible tension in his stance. of him. The lightning-fast seaman lashed out at Danko's head. Danko countered with equal speed "Danko?" Sergei was concerned. and Popeye's hand only caught the black hood concealing his opponent's identity. The hood "Sir," Danko's booming voice had a polite, professional tone, "we may have a security came off and Popeye confirmed what his instincts had told him already: he was fighting with alert." At that, Sergei and the other three reached under the table and produced firearms. Danko Bluto. strode rapidly to the large double wooden door and slipped out All eyes were on Sergei. Both combatants paused momentarily, glaring at each other. Hateful recongnition burned "What could have happenned?" in Popeye's eyes as he remembered what Bluto had done to Wimpy. Then Popeye was swept by Sergei gripped a 9mm Walther, "I trust Danko to handle it." memories he had pushed aside for years — memories of Olive. His anger consumed him. He Just then, from somewhere in the building—nine floors below, or perhaps j ust down the hall would make Bluto pay. Both men exploded at once, each driving fierce hand strikes at the other —came an echo, "Yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk..." The air in the room grew thick with tension; all four and in turn blocking the opponent. The flurry of movement ended with the two fighters jumping men cocked their guns, Sergei was in a state of grim disbelief, "It can't be. I thought I heard..." away from each other. They stared each other down once more, this time breathing quite heavily. The double doors exploded inward, shattering the lock and showering the carpet with wood Bluto spoke, "It would seem, Popeye, that you cannot beat me. You were foolish to stay with splinters. The intruder stood in the open doorway; everyone recognized him, but none wanted Sensei for so long. He could not teach you the things that I have learned!" to believe that he was really there, Sergei's suspicion from a moment ago was confirmed, He's partly right, thought Popeye, I can't beat him. But it's because of the damn Spinach! "Popeye!" It's slowing my reflexes. The Sailor Man was an imposing figure. Deadly tension rippled in his inhumanly large Just then the sound of running footsteps came from the hallway, more of Bluto's men were forearms: arms that some believed were the product of years of secret training while others coming. Popeye knew he must escape somehow. One of Popeye's tattoes became a blur as he believed they were the results of military biomechanics — government experiments. Origins threw down a combination flash and smoke bomb, bluto and the newly arrived men were blinded aside, everyone knew enough to stay away from Popeye's arms. for an instant and the Sea Devil disappeared in the smoke. He took in the four of them unblinkingly. It was a few seconds before he saw any of them Bluto shouted after him, "We'llmeetagain! Count on it!"On the streets below, Popeye knew start breathing again. He shifted the pipe in his mouth, took in a slow deliberate breath and spoke, he would not be followed: there was too much of amess for Bluto's men to clean up. But Popeye "I has had it wit da lot'o'yas." This was it, the Sailer Man would waste no more time with words. knew his enemy had spoken the truth; they would meet again. Sergei knew they had to kill him, or be killed. All guns opened fire. But the tatooed Sea Devil However, next time, thought Popeye, I'll kill you. I'll kill you for Olive Oil... SUCKS O +-i

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Happy reading. be a big thang; be has the chops as a Michael Turner, Reading writer and the integrity of a true soul. Railroad organizer, has just released He and his wife, Sharon are living his second book. Hard Core Logo in Iqaluit, NWT, where she is On Sunday, May 16 ABC will broadcast the (Arsenal Pulp Press, $13.95)—the teaching high school and be posted six hour mini-series Wild Palms, produced by saga of a punk-rock band hitting the me his new chapbook, That First, Oliver Stone. The show is based on the comic road one more time. The band, led Wound-Bearing Layer subtitled B- strip which has appeared for the past few by Joe Mulgrew (aka Joe Dick), has Sides and Unreleased Singles years in Details mag (which is a not-so-guilty been coaxed out of retrrement for a Volume 1. These very short pieces pleasure of mine and a bargain @ $2.50). Green World Coalition benefit. The (keep in mind Cliffs speciality is Although I read the mag every month I've one-night all-acoustic gig turns into tbe short, short story) read as long only glanced at fhe strip a few rimes cos I a full fledged tour with the bewil­ run-on sentences dripping wilh pain haven't a clue what it's about. Its wondrously dered band rediscovering the and horror. complex. Oh well, I can tell you that the road...and why they split in the first This ain't no sissy boy horror with writing is by Bruce Wagner, art by Julian place. monsters and the like, this is the Allen and its pages are filled with encugh As with Company Town, horror of realizing your mate is in­ oddball treachery and secrets to make Turner's first book (a fictional ac­ sane and, come to think of it, you Freemason's appear status quo. The TV show count of Michael's adventures in a haven't seen the dog for a few days. sounds like a good bet and, hey, Angie Dick­ secluded fishing area), the story is Good ol' everyday horror; the stuff inson plays a demon! Abo look for yummy lold in short prose pieces. This time found in a house on your block. commercial tie-ins, such as the soundtrack by pictures and song lyrics are includ­ Personally, knowing what a gentle Ryuichi Sakamoto and at least cue book. ed, giving the book a scrapbook teel. person Cliff is makes reading his The band members are rather loutish work that much more interesting. ITfl'J'JHilWi'iE-U] fellas who go on auto-pilot whilst Something happened to Ihis 28-year touring. Is the beer backstage? Tbe food? 0- ride while Anne lakes us on a sunny holiday old somewhere along the line; something 1 On the Usenet, which I access via computer, with two friendswhos e relationship is waning may not want to find out. Order your own there are many cool groups (and loads of dull puts in new, improved captions. No return strength and stamina (no genitals, tho). The best passages in the book don't and to a dreadful cafe meeting with the copy of this book for a mere three bucks from ones) to which one can send/read messages. address was included and inquiries on-line They managed to escape but John got involve the band but, rather, an old rawk pal ultimate—though sadly readily available— Greensleeve Editions, 7935 - 27th Avenue, Such as use_lt_ines which is like Factsheet met with no real success (a bunch of us were separated from his friend and then the of theirs, Bucky Haight, who tells a few sto­ Euro-nerd. Lisa's tale of running off to Vegas , , T6K 3C9 and look sent the 'zine). A small square bound aliens left. ries. The members of Hard Core Logo are, to get married is a laff-riot! 77K Skinner Leg for Cliff's appearance in the booklet, the back cover offers other Now I can just see ya going "hoo, is when it comes right down to it, kind of cheesy. of The Journey is a bargain at ten bucks and forthcoming Splatterpunks Volume 2 similar books with titles such as See, I Ihis hokey!" but, trust me, it's a very cool There are amusing passages throughout but, available around town (R2B2, Granville (ed. Paul Samnion), as well as the toldyou cats could smell dead people and comic. Ron manages to make it back to geez, I found it pretty hard to sympathize with Books, POP! and more). Lisa is also the vox/ anthology In Dreams (UK import, Eat Snow Hobo. It's obvious that the civilization and works out a deal with the these bozos. However, unlike the beauuful bass player with the local trio cub, so look for Gollancz, $6.00) which "celebrates" publishers of this groovy smut arekeeping U.S. Government where they take care of Company Town, which I gave my dad for the book and their brand new single, Hot Dog the 7-inch single with SF and Honor a low profile. If I find out how to order him (monitor his new bod and hire two Father's Day last year (he was charmed), this Day, at gigs. fiction (although, all-in-all, a fairly dull these gems I'll endeavor to let you know. assistants). Along the way Concrete book will sit in the "rock" section of my collection). becomes somewhat of a celebrity and is in bookshelf. demand on the party circuit. He is bemused by his sudden fame and, as always, retains On May 16 at the Arts Club Granville Island I highly recommend Flight Paths of the Have you ever read Concrete'! Written his integrity. join Arsenal Pulp Press for their Spring Launch -mperorbySteven Hekjhton.abook which I've been aware of Crad Kilodney for by Paul Chadwick and published by The various stories capture differ­ of new books by M.A.C. Farrant, Jill Robin­ was sent to me by its publisher, The the past eight years or so. He's the guy Dark Horse Comics, this wonderful comic ent events in Ron's/Concrete's life. He has son and Michael Turner. Porcupine's Quill (great name!). These 14 who self-publishes his own books and cameout between 1986 and 89. Originally hobbies (including collecting erotic art!) The next night, the Reading Railroad short tales all deal with Japanese culture seen, sells Ihem on the streets of Toronto seen in Dark Horse Presents, a monthly and interests (wildlife, camping) and often lineup for Monday, May 17: M.A.C. Farrant, mostly, from tbe eyes of the English who Uve (since 1978). It is with great pleasure anthology of cartoon art that continues answers 'Tan mail" requests for his help (in Howard White and Jill Robinson. Mae Moore, and work in the country. 1 must confess I've that I announce a joint subtext/Gnint today (up to issue #70), Concrete eventu­ one tale he helps save a families farm). the musical guest, will perform an acoustic set only read two stories so far, "Five Paintings of Gallery venture bringing the joy of ally got his own comic. Chadwick's character is drawn so backed by bass and guitar. the New Japan" and "An Apparition Play." Crad to Vancouver. He will read at the So what's it all about? Well, political well and hassuch a heart of gold lhatyou've Hey...this writing is so wonderful I'm going Grunt Gallery (209 R 6th @ Main) on speech writer John Lithgow and a pal got to read it to believe it. In fact, you'll get to take my time and savor each story. Sunday, May 23, 8 PM. He will also sign Five on-line. I've been encouraging readers were camping when they were kidnapped by a chance Ihis month when two brand new You may have seen them read at last years copies of his latest work, Suburban Chicken- of the group to send me their 'zines which I'll aliens and had their brains transplanted into Concrete comics come out. Check any Small Press Feslival or heard 'em on CBC's Strangling Stories. Crad will also be reading review here. The first I've received is a boot: big, clunky, heavy concrete bodies. The two comic shop for more details, and ifyou like Nihilities, now you can pick up The Skinnier at the Denman Island coffee house on Friday, Dysfunctional Family Circus takes original were subjected lo rigorous testing of their new it search out back issues or get Ihe collection Leg of The Journey, the first release by the I last wrote of Cliff Burns when reviewing May 21 ...an adventure that won't be forgotten cartoons fromth e Family Circus comic and bods and found they had amazing eyesight, which is available. Concrete rules! RLE ARE READING Ever wonder what "People Are Reading"? I do. Chris Brayshaw, whose The precision and grace of Landecker's writing make her worth Mao 11, by Don DeLillo, gets my vote for best novel of 1992; it's now writing has appeared in Horizons, SF, Arc, the Vancouver Sun and these very watching; to my mind, she is the best young writer currently working in available in paperback DeLillo is a major influence on writers like William pages, took the time to write and tell subtext. Vancouver. Gibson and Thomas Pynchon, yet his work is constantly passed off as While I've followed Landecker's writing for several years, I only "difficult" by people who are too lazy to actually finish his books. Mao II is DeLillo in top form: the story of a reclusive, failed novelist who makes an Poetry by Hannah Landecker and Eric Morten, two of Vancouver's most know Eric Morten from "Suicide Note," an excerpt from a long poem-in- abortive attempt to save the life of a Swiss poet held captive in Beruit. The promising young writers, can be found in recent issues of 77it Cupilano Review progress he recently published in 77ie Capilano Review. Morten's style owes novel begins with a Unification Church mass wedding at Yankee Stadium and Whetstone. a lot to the tish poeLs who haunted Vancouver in the 60's—in particular Frank and concludes with a photographer's flashbulb bursting in Beruit, "the dead Landecker has been previously published in Books In Canada and Davey, who once wrote an apparendy endless series of poems about the city photographed one more time." Most critics read the book as a study of various small press magazines. Her writing is distinguished by its lyrical Lion's Gate Bridge. What I like best about Morten's writing is the way it individuality versus the mob; DeLillo's sympathies don't lie where literal evocation of the physical world and the scientific metaphors she uses to describe moves effortlessly between descriptions of internal and external landscape: readers might be tempted to think they do. inner psychological states. Her style reminds me of early Margaret Atwood, or the Janet Frame of Intensive Care and 77ie Carpathians. space becomes substance, Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash has also appeared in paperback. Landecker's best piece to date, "descent," is apoem about migration and green Stephenson is the author ofthe very odd The Big U, a wholly indescribable personal history. "I was bora on the other side of the world," she writes, "and acted upon by causes novel—Animal House meets Repo Man. Rudy Rucker's blurb on the back am third generation mishmash." words become spherical, cover makes laudatory comparisons between Stephenson and Pynchon, which are pretty apt: Stephenson matches and occasionally exceeds the silver things. hyperactive pace of the Gravity's Rainbow chase sequences and most of you of pure doukhobor Vineland; you keep expecting the plot to lag or come flying apart in midair, descent can say - my mother's feet "Suicide Note" will undoubtedly be collected on completion; watch for iL but somehow it never does. What separates Stephenson from the Terry walked the soil that her mother's did The Capilano Review also has a finephotographi c essay by Don Gill, and a Prachett/M__ magazine school of SF satire LS his deep and abiding interest in and her father before that, under the same number of poems that unashamedly plagiarize bill bissett's idiosyncratic things other than satire. 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MAY © Jf#t£/f4&i^GVC In 1993 no one talks about Skull; Chris Brokawplayed resonate with a sort of an­ sense to stickaround. What bands lack songs that have band: four people that re- drums for the vastly un­ ger and hopelessness that, followed was perhaps one that indefinable quality of ally love music and love wrapped up in a strange der-rated Codeine; and the along with Thalia* s potent ofthe best performances I soul. Come would, in their to play together. Six-string circular argument of eth­ rhythm section of Sean vocals, are the soundtrack had ever seen. It seems own modest way, consider soul music for anyone who ics. Is such and such a band Slade and Arthur Johnson for a stormy evening. This that Come had never played themselves as just another cares. indie or not indie? Have come from the Athens, is not an "up" record by in a store before and were they sold out? "Oh, they Georgia scene where they s but because of quite overwhelmed with used to be cool until...", were playing in the Kil­ songwriting I the fact that people were and terrible bands fall all kenny Cats and Bar-b-q think it • 11 souiid as good Actually there who knew over themselves to lay Killers. They all came to­ in ten years as it does to- their songs and had heard cl aim to the irrelevant mar­ gether in Boston and were their record. Requests for keting term "alternative." given their first exposure As much as I love songs were made and were Jaded writers almost seem when they were asked to Eleven: Eleven,1 was ex­ played. Although they to have forgotten how pow­ do aSub-Pop single ofthe tremely excited to see pi ay edf or only half an hour erful a good song can be. monthinlate 1991. After Come. I was granted that they were able to create This really has very little this initial exposure things wish when they chose to to do with a Boston band. really started happening visit Vancouver as a stop phere and ambience that, Come, except that up until and within a few short on their current tour. to use a bad cliche, time a couple of weeks ago I months Come were in the Choosing Zulu Records for seemed to stand still. found myself in the same studio recording their de­ a 4 PM in-store perform­ This is really what the sort of trap: hating almost but album for Matador, en­ ance, border problems, un­ power of music is. For every record I heard, criti - titled Eleven; Eleven. fortunately, made both while some critics might cizing almost every band Eleven; Eleven could Come and their label-mates dispute a band like Come tha dow the possibly be one of the best Bettie Serveert quite late— for being too traditional, pipe. ..it's sort of funny what of the year. Truth by the time Come arrived too slow, or too sorrow­ a good rock show can do. be told, it is a at 6:00 alot ofthe people ful, for me at least they Come are four peo­ record,but in the 90' s sense. that had shown up at 4:00 allow me to reinvest in the ple, each of whom have For every debt that this had felt the pangs of hun­ concept of , played music for a number album owes to blues-based ger and gone home for din­ something that jokers like of years: Thalia Zedek 70's bands like the Roll­ ner after Bettie Serveert. or Jesus Jones, with seminal Boston un­ ing Stones, the rhythmic Regardless, Come set up even though they might be derground groups Danger­ sensibility is more akin to their gear and by 6:30 were able to write some pretty ous Birds and Uzi, later bands like the Jesus Liz­ ready to roll for the 30 or catchy songs, will never with NYC noise gods Live ard or . The songs so people that had the good be able to pull off. Those And lyrically, you just signing with Chrysa­ when I put this theory think, of 86 Street? can't help but get the lis were at opposite to him. "When you BY MARK KLEINER Moe Berg asks my feeling that Moe Berq endsoftheemployed see the Scorpions, or cohort and I as he and is straining a little hard spectrum. somethina like that, T.P.O.H. skin-basher, under his reputation While Dave recalls they probably behave Dave Gilby, chat with for making irreverent paying duesasabell- much like when they us over java and observations about man, working in were seventeen years breakfast at a down­ getting laid. But while Yonge Street record old...I don't know if town Vancouver ho­ some diversity in the stores and delivering that's such a good tel. The two were in lyrical department pizzas, Moe recounts thing." town for three whirl­ would have been very stories of moulding ' it'sgood if you're wind days of "strok­ welcome at this point plastic ice cream forty," Dave sug­ ing the trade" in pro­ in their thirtysome- buckets, cutting car­ gests. motion of their newly thing careers, the pet ("I cut the shit out What separates released LP, The guys don't sound like of my hands—I the best of Moe's writ­ Downward Road, they want to shake lookedlike MattZim- ing from label-mates theirthirdtodate.The things up too much. ble.">, and a 6.00 AM like the Scorpions is group has since re­ "We re not against gig shovelling vomit his patent awareness turned to town for a having a hit," Dave off a racetrack. So has that he is getting old­ Commodore Ball­ explains, "but I'd rath­ the re I ief of becom i ng er, even as his rock room engagement er have this career a self-supporting mu­ gig keeps him feeling with 54-40, thankful­ than that career. Like sician changed his ur­ young. However, to ly passing over the 54-40, who keep gency as a songwrit­ keep this full-time former* Expo site, to putting out records, er? "Notreally, Moe rock 'n* roll gig almost perform a show that as opposed to Tiffany assures, "life became inevitably demands featured a set closing who probably easier and it gave me appealing to an audi­ rendition of Prince's couldn't get arrested more time to do it." ence that becomes in­ "When Doves Cry," anymore. ' Hence, Moe's creasingly younger along with all of your Immediately, it be­ "descent into adult­ than himself. "I think fave T.P.O.H. tracks. comes obvious why hood," in everyway, kids are a lot smarter The Downward Moe, despite his po­ has not been the and have a lot more Road is, in actuality, sition as the Pursuit's "downward road"tbat understanding than not a bad record, how­ visionary, is not do­ hesingsofonthenew people give them ever, it 13 onlythe th ird ing these interviews record. If coming of creditfor, Moe says, best album The Pur­ alone: Dave Gilby age really is tfie exer­ downplaying the pos- suit of Happiness adds a real smooth cise in disappoint­ sibility of his lyrical have recorded thus and personable vibe ment that he de­ themes alienating the far. There are a hand - to the conversation scribes, perhaps rock " gone wild." "I ful of excellent songs while Moe spends 'n' roll has offered think teenagers like C'Heavy MetalTears" much ofthe interview some temporal salva­ to thinkof themselves being by far the high in polite detachment, tion—kind of like itdid as being older than point) along wtth contemplating his for the character in they really &re, be­ many numbers that slice of hotel restau­ Lou Reed' s "Rock 'N' sides," be adds suffer under a piod- rant-prepared ham. Roll." "[Playing rock] knowingly, "it's some­ dy, steri le production Predictably, the day keeps you in a con­ thing that's going to sound from the newly jobs each held down stant state of adoles­ happen to them right recruited EdStasium. prior to their 1988 cence," agrees Moe away." MAY ® is no stranger to Vancouver. Both as a solo artist and reciprocal member of groups which led the way for their respective generations, Mr. Mould has frequented our green, West Coast knoll almost so much to warrant him citizenship status. Memories serve up Bob and his co-horts consigning their first single, "Statues," toloca l record stores, gigs at clubs which are now mere rubble or reserved for marathons, and a solo showcase with a sore throat, a bag of acoustic tricks and a sidekick who would begin to make quite a name for himself— Vic Chesnutt. Now Bob returns with the fine granulated sounds of pop-hooksters, Sugar. In a short 8 months since the release of their debut album, , and tour which took them to England, Australia, Japan and through North America, Sugar have followed up their virtual overnight success with a seasonal-type EP, Beaster. Co-produced with Copper Blue- helmsman, Lou Giordano, Beaster is a vehicle for Sugar in the raw. Whereas Copper Blue wreaked of slick production, almost on the verge of over-production, Beasterhints at the sonic aggression more akin to Sugar's Uve show. A veteran to the producing gambit—having produced band- mate Malcolm Travis' ex-band, The Zulus', Down On The Floor debut—Bob Mould has finally compounded the sounds which he has heard in his head for oh-so long.

14 zst^^smm^ Discorder: It seems that the Sugar project were a lot of problems with Virgin, there A lot of people are drawing comparisons. acquired with hme and everything has its yond music..and they're very aware of crept up on everybody, basically kept were problems with management, there were Beyond the fact that it's my voice, I wrote place in time. And this record wasn't meant that; it's working hands-on with all these under wraps until live dates and Copper problems with the three of us just not com­ this batch of songs, I play guitar a certain to be 7 minute opuses, it was meant to be 3- companies [Ryko, Creadon, Denon] that Blue were just around the corner. Is that municating at all. I had enough of it. Noth­ way—things that are hard to change—there's 4 minute pop songs. understand what the band is about and can the case? Were you holding back on the ing seemed to work, nobody seemed to be no resemblance at all. I don't thinkdiis band keep the objectives in focus. publicity of forming this new band so you happy and I was like, "Well, why ci sounds hke Hiisker Dii, nor would we want Do you feel you've matured quite a lot as could erupt from the ashes of you solo this?" to. It's hke it in the fact that I was in both a ? So, this is very much like going back to Um, I'mawareof my being on an independent label...or DIY? Bob Mould: Well, to put it all back into strong points now. It took that whole year of doing those acous­ perspective, when I did the solo acoustic Things that I did un­ tic gigs and travelling around by myself to dates in '91 it was just something that I consciously I know figure out that you really don't need to have wanted to do for myself: to clear house, what they are now. a lot of excess baggage. After years of all over, and spend some hme just playing I' m al way s stumbling getting punched around by the stupid busi­ music and not worrying about anything on to new ways of ness I finally made the right decisions. else. Through tlie course of the year there writing, new ways of We've got alot of years to go and hopefully, were record companies calling going, "Well, getting a sound out all these things combined—Sugar, Ryko, we heard you got out of your deal with self-management—can keep this kind of Virgin, we'reinterested blah-blah-blah-blah- ways of incorporat­ momentum going forward for along period blah. What are you doing?" And I said, "I ing found audiopieces of hme. don't know. I'm just spending this year into music..you get inaki ng music, we' 11 worry about that later." good at one thing and One thing surprised me about Copper I guess around October of last year I got a you start dabbling in Blue and Beaster coming out on Ryko is hold of Malcolm and David and said, "What other things with the that I was more familiar with Ryko putting would you guys think about gettin' together hope that you can get out classic re-issues: the Soft Boys, Big and playing some time in the future?" And diem up to speed as Star, Zappa, Yoko Ono and stuff like Ihey were both, "Yeah, tliat'd be real cool." quickly as possible. that I wasn't really familiar with Ryko So I sent them tapes of a bunch of songs I in their promotion of new artists...? liad written and said, "Well, let's start with When I listen toy our Well, this has got them excited because die these. If you like any of diese we can try lyrics it really, re­ artist they're working with is still alive. wntin' some stuff, you know. Let's just see ally paints a picture Maybe this is their signal to the industry: what happens." And we got together in in my mind of what "We're not a fuckin' oldies label anyone, you're saying. Al- we're gonna get in your face with this one I had already been talking iii ost every time I lis­ until you can't stand it." Hopefully it wdl labels at that point, seriously, and it was ten to them I have a set diem up to be one of the real altemati ves starting to narrow down as to who was !> gO to alternative dunking bands running to the going to be involved. When we got together with what's happen­ majors for money. in February Malcolm and David had ing in the song. I met and I didn't know what the chemistry guess this is in com­ And you, yourself, have your own la- was going to be like so I was still being parison to folk sing­ bel...The Singles Only Label. Did you pretty open about the whole tiling. After tlie ers. Have you ever start that up as an angry gesture against first day of rehearsal we knew it was gonna So, it just sort of fell apart. There was bands and that's where it stops. been compared to the sty lings of a folk all that's bad about the major label? be a band. It wasn't gonna be a recording too much negative energy getting built up No, for two reasons. To give new bands a project, it wasn't gonna be this or that, it and it just started to feed on itself and it was Do you ever get tired of being tagged as Yes, that's the root of popular music: songs voice and to try and do our part to preserve really was gonna be the beginning of a long all getting real familiar. There were a lot of the "ex-Hiisker Dii band member," and diat are derived from personal experience the history of 7" singles as a vehicle for new term diing. We spent March and April mak­ parallels and I was like, "Wait, I've seen is it a stigma for you? and portrayed in a very simplistic way. It dungs to be heard. I don't know what you ing the record, doing a lot of recordings, a diis before so let's just stop before it gets Well, if people do it in advertising they have makes sense, I think we all have a little bit pay in Canada, I'm guessing between $15- couple dozen tilings we were working on, real bad." to forfeit the entire guarantee and we don't of that in us but some of us are more aware $20,foraCDbutwhenIgotreallyreacquainted did the tour in July, and went over to Eng­ play, so it doesn't happen in advertising of it than others. There are some amazingly widi music in the mid and late '70s I was in land in August. We went over and did 2 So what did your new members David much anymore...it works for Chuck Berry. high watermarks on diis record, like "A college, I didn't have shit for money. I shows in London and they went pretty nuts Barbe (bass) and Malcolm Travis (drums, People are hesitant to leave the past alone, Good Idea," "Hoover Dam," or "Slick," couldn't afford to buy albums at $8 a pop but about it there. percussion) bring to you that you en­ I've washed my hands of it. I've found, over where the music definitely portrays what's I could afford to buy a single at $1.50. And That's pretty much how it evolved. I joyed and made you say, "Hey, I wanna the last few years, that the less I talk about going on lyrically. There are alot of obvious if you liked tlie band then you could buy all mean, there wasn't really a conscious plan make an album with these guys. This is it the more people write about it. So I just try reference points hke die mosquito-sound­ of dieir stuff. I still diink it's a really good to keep it under wraps. I tliink we just finally going to be Copper Blue"? to make a few sweeping generalizations ing guitar on "A Good Idea," diat buzzed way to get acquainted with new bands, and wanted to go out in July and make sure it Everybody got along as people right off die around the swamp as the story goes on, or if you only give somebody seven and a half was all going to work on a touring level bat. There was no ego bullshit, everybody When we played in London some­ the grandeur of "Hoover Dam," it's such a minutes to say it it's usually going to be before we started running our mouths off left that stuff at home. My idea of tryi ng to body from Creation was there with a friend pompous arrangement diat it really works. pretty good. put some people together to start a new of their's who was sort of a civilian and Those are really fun things when you stum­ group, this time, was that I wanted to work didn't really know a whole lot about the ble on to them. When you can really make You're either going to like it or you're I guess it is safer to not give people all with my friends. And if they're good musi­ past. And about 4-5 songs into the set she music match-up hke it's a soundtrack for a going to hate it, but even if you do hate it these visions of grandeur rather than not cians that's good too. Instead of "I wanna turned to him and goes, "Wow, they sound book or somediing it's really rewarding at you don't feel that bad because you only being able to fulfill them. get some really good and then a lot hke Leatherface." Pretty soon people the end of the day. spent $3.50 on it... So are you a big 7" Yeah, it's just good to test drive die car we'll become friends," that's the difference are going to say we sound hke Buffalo consumer, yourself? before you drive it. [laughs] But, it's defi­ between a session group and a band. Tom.. .there would be an irony there. There' s It is an incredible album because every Yeah, I really went dirough diat phase in the nitely up and running now. We got a good nothing I can do to change the way people song has it's own identity and I think it's mid/late-70's when I bought hundreds and head of steam going right now. Everybody You've been residing in New York now look at things, so the more absurd it gets the very hard for artists nowadays to put out hundreds and hundreds of singles. Now diey're is real excited, diings are really taking off for a little over three years, what kind of an album which can't be lumped all to- very hard to find, with die obvious exception with diis record and we just gotta get out influence does living in New York have of die labels who specialize in them: Sub- Ihere and convince people diat diis is a band on you in comparison to your time spent Is there more of a burden on your shoul­ Yeah, I like to keep people guessing. And I Pop, T/K. There are odier labels hke Blue- and it's not a new Bob Mould solo project. in Minneapolis? I believe you had a farm ders to put out a good album as a pro­ think diat with die influences for Copper Green Gods out of North Carolina...man, at one time as well? ducer/songwriter more so than just be­ Blue coming from so many different places diey just crank diat stuff out. It's good but I Speaking of, I don't know whether this is [lauglis] Yeah, diat was the Workbookfaim. ing a) a producer, or b) a songwriter? it was bound to be tins diverse, but sUll wish we could all get together and figure out a touchy issue or not, what happened That's long gone. I had to get out of Well, it's a tricky position to be in because sounding like the same group. a way to really distribute these things prop­ wilh Toni [Maimone] and Anton [Fier] Minneapolis, I had spent so much hme diere you' re always learning to try to be more and erly because widi so many stores [to distrib­ and working with them on the last two it was really getting stale; there was nothing more critical of your own work. With Cop­ With Sugar you've made the move from ute to] it's so hard. Maybe die concept to diat was influencing me any more. New per Blue the differences, from a production Virgin/A&M records to Ryko, what dif­ work on for the rest ofthe year is trying to get I, die Workbook thing started out great; York is a good place to move to when you standpoint, are real obvious. A song hke "If ference does this make to your career? everybody togedier and start some kind of LS my vision and it was really clear as to just want to start over and sort of reinvent I Can't Change Your Mind," in the past, Since Sugar is sell-managed I'm able to disliibiitioii|K)i)l wiih everyone handles dis­ I was going on. We did alot of touring yourself. You know, you got alot of space, might have been buried with really heavy have a hands-on go of it widi the record tribution in dieir home area. It's got to be 19 and Tom and Anton were diere to a lot of anonymity and there are a lot of guitars, down-played vocals and all that. company on a day to day basis, and 1 diink amalgamated somehow, like a singles dis­ e the second record [Black Sheets of options here. Musically, how it influences This time I realized, "No, this is a great pop we're all happy for that. There is no middle tribution network. |. In hindsight, I'm not really thrilled what I'm doing, I'm not sure. Maybe the song, why dose it widi all this stuff it doesn' t person with die obvious motives to make as it diat record because it's pretty one fact that in New York you gotta have an need? It was written on a 12-string, let's much money for themselves as possible So are the Travel­ •nsional at die end of die day. Sonically, answer for everything really quick shows play it on a 12-string." Overall, with the diat we have to contend widi. There are a ling Wilburys of college-rock? ;t got so murky and dark. Those songs up in the work. [Copper Blue is] More idea of production and songwriting in tan­ bunch of really creative people at Ryko diat You'd have to ask Anton, I've never been a • supposed to be a lol more uplifting immediate and to die point, and not quite as dem, you have to learn to get more to the have solid and innovative ideas about ap- Travelling Palomino nor will I be. they sound on that record—I found long and involved as Workbook was. point widi your writing because no one else proaclungmusicandhowtopromote records. loingt: is there writing parts out or saying. "This is Tlieir quality control standards are really Sugar plays the Commodore Ball­ With Copper Blue have you been accused a great story but it doesn't need to be 7 high and that's important to the impact diat room with Grant Lee Buffalo and Pond of drawing on your old band's stuff? minutes long." Those are diings dial are a record can have. You know, it goes be­ on Wed., May 19th. 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3819 BEECHER ST. NW, WASH., D.C. 20007 i Quicksand is£ •• Sergio Vej>a-I>a: Tom Schrei Alan Cage-drujrf_! a ,>a Discorder ran into guitarist lax attitude. I realise that this record experience that I' ve had in the past, cause they are on a corporate la­ people because they get off on the garage— The Rodents—and we'd Walter Schreifels before their all- is an investment and there is money only this time around I' m in a nicer bel." Well, what do you do? Do reaction from a crowd, or they get play these little punk songs. Our ages show at The Dugout and had put into it from the label's stand­ van. That's another blessing from you live with your parents? What off on praise of their work, or they big goal was to play a party. Then a few words with him.... point, that is one cloud in the sky, Polygram. The little things mean a do you think your parents do? Are just get off on the process of doing we played a party and it was great. but so f ar it hasn' t been a problem. lot. they the Ghandi's? Your parents music. People write poetry, people The next thing was Gorilla Bis­ Discorder:Y oumew record, slip, are out there working for some write in their journals...no one reads cuits, our big goal was to play is out on Polydor, you were on How has slip been selling? Have you received any flak from shitty corporation, paying your bills your journal but it makes you feel CBGB's. The day we played Revelation before, how did this Really well! We're not a huge the major label nay-sayers? and feeding you. When you get better. That's how music is with CBGB's was the biggest thing. I all come together? band but it's doing very well. With I don't think so. As far as people your job you'll also have to pay this group. couldn't believe it! I couldn't sleep Walter Schreifels: People from the Revelation release we sold giving us flak, I don't think any­ your taxes to our scumbag govern­ You'll see bands that will the whole night before. different labels starting coming 17,000 copies over a period of one really identified with us in that ment. You really have to pick your make a package and send it off to Each time you set yourself jrshowi i New York at three years. Now we're selling a way. People haven't placed those causes. Pick what you really be- a major label to get signed. If they up. As you achieve your goals, that s peak there wer lot of records every week that I kinds of expectations on us. The few that were really, sincerely in­ never thought we would sell. In fact that we were on an independ­ terested. Polygram seemed Uke the that sense it's amazing, but we're ent label doesn't mean that I'm best bet at the time. still reaching a lot of the same kids running for Independent Label at this point. I'm playing to the President, because I'm not. If we You've all come up through the same people that I've been play­ could have been on a major label hardcore scene, have also been ing to for the last eight years. It's for our first EP we would have in New York straight-edge bands not like we've now got groupies done it. We want to put out music. and have done the independent coming backstage, or anything like If we couldn't have put out our label thing, how different is it that, but the record is doing very first EP on Revelation I would have working with a major label? well and my outlook on it is that saved up my money and put it out Well, the difference is knowing that when you make a record it's My main fear with the record The idea behind the band is going to come out on the day it is is that it won't sell to the same to put out the best music that we people who bought our last record. can make and reach as many peo­ really significant thing. The record I want the same people to but it. ple as possible. This is the best is in stores and people can see it Like, "Cool, I bought their last opportunity we' ve gotten to do that and pick it up, that's a good differ­ thing and I like this too," not "I so far and that's why we went for ence to me. A store doesn't have can't relate to this because I saw it. If you think that being on a to order the record and never have Walter in Guitar Player maga­ major label is not cool, and you it show up, or have it show up a zine—what a poseur." If we can can't enjoy a band because they 're year later. For the band it's better reach and please the same people on a major label, because you are in that sense. People who know then, in my eyes, we did every­ against the corporate...whatever, Quicksand, and are thinking about thing right and everything is cool. the solution is simple: you don't picking the record up, can just go go to the shows and you don't buy down to the record store and do so. This is Quicksand's second time the record. Because if you do you Things are done so much more to Vancouver, the first time you are contributing to that cause. orderly. were touring through with Hel­ There are some people that The other thing is that they met. How does this tour com­ hate CDs and therefore hate your have a press department, so we'll pare to the last one? band because you put out a CD and find ourselves in magazines and The tour with Helmet was bigger, not vinyl—when we were on Rev­ stuff like that. A lot of the time it it was a different audience from elation Records people would give is sort of artificial...I mean, I'min what we were used to. However, us shit because we put out CDs. GuitarPlayerm&g&rine this month we always had our little contin­ Some people feel strongly about and I'm a shitty guitarist! But, gent of people; there were 10orl5 that, and that's their right, but I nonetheless, I'm in the magazine. kids who knew who we were and feel that there are more important Things like that are different. the rest of the audience saw Hel- things to get emotional about than The good thing about being metonMTV.orw nto Helmet, CDs. There are people al 1 over this on an independent label is that a or for whatever n n they were world who are starving and living lot of the time the independent at that gig. We'r in the worst conditions. I like vi­ Iieve in and work on that. don't get signed they've wasted is your satisfaction. You can't sit label doesn' t give a shit about what Helmet is, we ha' nyl, I like bands on independent At this point we are on a their time. We were a band who in your room and think, "Well, I'm you do. Like, "We're going to put point yet. We're m m MTV. Like labels, but those aren't the things maj or label and I' ve got some money did this thing and eventually gained going to write this song and this this big cock on the front of the I said, we're playing to the same that really drive my life. from that. I'm not rich, but I don't song is going to got me to number record and we're going to sing in kids. We'll play to 200 kids all have to work. Before, we were one in the charts, or I'll be pissed pig Latin." The independent doesn't through the South, the same peo­ Those things are nothing com­ driving in a van with no windows, off." You don't really have any care! They're like, "OK, cool." ple I've been playing to with pared to the problems of the I didn't have any money and this is control over what happens. You With our they've ac­ hardcore. what we did. We didn't care. I When you first picked up a gui­ don'thaveanycontrolover whether tually been very cool about those I' m interested with this tour, Exactly! Or even the real prob­ didn't think "Oh, well...I'm not tar and started playing did you people like your record or not. Peo­ kind of things; they haven't been I was expecting that maybe we'd lems of your own life. OK... "I don't making enough money. I'm not ever imagine that you would be ple could very well say that your too overbearing with it. That is a have found this new audience but want to support CDs because they big enough of a rock star. This doing this Quicksand thing: tour­ records suck and no would buy difference between the two. Inde­ so far that hasn't happened. At ruined vinyl and that sucks," and does not suit my ego." People make ing around, on a major label? them, but you'll continue to do it pendents seem to have more of a this point it's very much the same "I don't want to support them be­ At first I was in a band in my anyway MAY © BY NARDWUAR llllfillll BY BEPI __i______. nriNHViNHi THE POOrHi STICK»IJ\A»arS aree a quirkconey littl[jttieywe groupp rrofromm a_ town called Swansea, nestled on the shores oft a country that until recentlrecently was a rock anomaly, WalesWales. ThaI t was until the Pooh Sticks aappeare| d on the scene and started to put out records on their own Fierce Recordings label and proceeded to take the world1 'b y ststormc , independently' r

Discorder: If you don't mind I'm going to get right into this and ask a bit We've played widi and Vaselines and there's a certain snobbery of a controversial question towards you? There has been a lot of that comes from those K [Beat Happening and Pastels* label] type bands. speculation and rumours to the effect that the Pooh Sticks don't really They feel that they've been betrayed by the Pooh Sticks because we've exist, and that you play everything on the recordings and simply have learned to write better songs and play our instruments beyond a beginner's cute girls pose with you for the record covers. Is this fact or fiction? level, therefore rising above them to be on a major label and stuff. We weren't Hue Pooh: No! That's not true at all! Right now we practically have a new just content to be in Uiat scene, we actually had a bit of ambition. But, I mean, line-up, but there's been a real core to the group, like myself and the guitarist let's face it, The Pastels are awful. I saw Uiem about ayear agoand it was one Paul, and then there's Amelia from Heavenly, and Trudi. That's the line-up of die worst shows I' ve ever seen—they were play i ng with Jad Fair. But it was that played the CMJ in New York. It's pretty much just me and a bunch of really funny because as soon as I walked in I had about a dozen kids around revolving members but now we have a steady line-up, I think. You know, we me asking for autographs! Now diis is embarrassing! So I started signing the hardly do any shows, we've done like 20 shows our whole career! autograplis widi stuff like "I hate The Pastels," anrl what does this girl do? She goes running up to the lead singer, Stephen Pastel, and shows him!!! And he used to love us, we'd play with them anrl murder them every time, but he Uien spent die entire night degrading rne between their songs! It was pathetic.

For your first Sympathy LP is it true that you used a...drum machine?! ? I've always mentioned you to Calvin from Beat Happening because I Uh...yeah, there's a drum macliine on Formula One Generation. Sorry, but thought that you would be right up his alley but he never seemed there's a drum macliine on a lot of the earlier stuff. I diought it was pretty interested. obvious. Well diat's strange because he was at our show in New York, and we hung out, and he seemed to like it. I think we should still be accepted by these people! What had you done before Formula One Generation? I mean, we're the link between them ,mil somediing much, much bigger. Well, that was our first American release, our first record was a single called "On Tape" and then we released a box set of one-sided singles. Then we did What about your song subjects, they 're definitely rooted in the bubbleg- a live album on.5 3rd & 3rd Records, which is an old label Uiat did The Pastels, um-pop scene of AM radio? Is this a mockery or are these sunny tunes Vaselines, and such. Then we did a hve album on a take-off of the your heart felt thoughts? "Trademark Of Quality" bootlegs, you know, a bootleg of a bootleg. Yeah, Uiis is another diing...I'in not completely stupid. The songs are as- sincere as diey can possibly gel. Hmmm...interesting idea. I think a few bands have done that. And then you went on to do the list of amazing records : Formula I love that song "Young People." We always play it at parties and dance One Generation, the three stellar singles, and then Great White Wonder. to it and stuff, but I know some people who find the lyrics and the whole Bringing us to another abounding and vicious rock rumour...I heard premise embarrassing. that BMG has told Sympathy they are not allowed to sell anymore copies When we play "Young People" live there's nothing ironic or embarrassing ot Great White Wonder and that they have to pull the album from stores, about it. And when I scream "now's die time tohave faith in whal we can do!" therefore leaving Sympathy, a lowly indie label, up shi t creek. Politically at die end of die song, I Uiink it's a.s powerful as Bikini Kill! incorrect, wouldn't you say? Oh, I thought Uiat Sympadiy had basically sold them all...I don't know, I Actually, there's a band over here called Bum who cover"Young People" don't get involved with dungs like that. and I tell ya, it'd make you proud! Speaking of covering songs didn't you cover a GG Allin song on Formula One Generation? Yeah, we sort of did. We combined it into a medley in "Tonite." I believe his song was called "In Tonight" and we changed it to "in die city tonight."

Long Gone John [the guy who runs Sympathy) must be a friend of yours, I thought that was really cool because few people kno w that GG Allin was has he ever mentioned, ov sereairu'd, how he may be getting screwed? really into power-pop punk before he went completely insane...! Mminm, not really. John came to our shows in New York and I Uiink it's all But another Uiing about people finding "Young People" embarrassing, if Uiey okay. We're his favourite band! come and see us live, expecting tins light poppy stuff, they're gonna get tlieir I heads blown off! It's really rock, it's not embarrassing. They'll really like it, Don't you find it ironic that Great White Wonder came out only on CD it's in Uieirface! I mean it's really, REALLY rocky!!! They've got to give it and is on a label called Sympathy For The Record Industry? Yeah, that's weird. We'd like it on vinyl, and John really loves vinyl, but I tliink he was just being told by bis people diat it wasn't worth doing. Our new Hue! Um...that's great but, uh, don't get me wrong, that was just one record is on vinyl over here but the format is pretty much dead. guy's opinion. We love you, really. Okay, now for some pulp, who's the most famous person you've ever met? Well, I 'm a huge vinyl fan and I 'm constantly frustrated at being force- I once met Julian Lennon in a club in L.A. anrldien met Lenny Kravitz at the to shell out $20 for a tinny sounding import CD. Anyways, are you i recording studio in L.A.. Oh, and I saw Yoko and Shaun walking down the planning to tour at all? I know you played in New York and Hoboken but ' street in New York wiUiout bodyguards or anything! what about the rest of North America? Yeah, we are! We've never done it before but we're planning to come over ; Wow, the entire Lennon family! So, do you know of any Canadian bands? really soon for a long time, like two montlis or somedung. We'll do all of die ' Yeah, die Barenaked Ladies and, um, the Shadowy Men On A Shadowy States and something like 30 dates in Canada. Planet. Don't they do TV diemes?

Wow! Will you be touring with another band? Yeah, they do the surly theme for a Canadian comedy show. So what is I don't know, diere's just so many Uiings happening for us right now. We your favourite band at the moment? don't really care, we'd be more Uian happy to play the smaller places. Well Uus week it's this Huggy Bear dung. I just think that what diey're rloing is absolutely amazing! They've done a few singles anrl they've got a split Yeah, well, you played Maxwell's in Hoboken and that's a pretty small album widi Bikini Kill, whom they're touring with a.s well. This whole riot place, yet your show there is already infamous. I heard that you covered grrl Uiing is so amazing! I love it! your naked body in lipstick and threw yourself into the audience!?! Yeah, Amelia was drawing all over me in lipstick. She wrole "Heart Throb" Well, lhat's great! Anyhow, we'd better wrap this up, thanks a lot for on my chest! It was in homage to all die little riot grrls Uiat were Uiere. talking to us, Hue! Okay, Uianks a lot, Grant. We'll see you when we get to Canada! Speaking of the pop underground/riot grrl revolution thing, people seem to have disassociated you with that. Wherein I would lump you So, there you have it, kids, the full scoop on the latest with other greats like Beat Happening, The Pastels, Vaselines, or sensation that is the Pooh Sticks. Get out there and do Heavenly, other people have said "No, the Pooh Sticks are a novelty and not worth that classification." your part in making Million Seller just that Or, better Well, the difference between us and somebody like die Pastels is diat we yet, snatch up the remaining independent singles and actually write decent songs. albums on Sympathy. See you at the gig! BY GRANT LAWRENCE You don't like The Pastels? MAY © Is there anyone you fantasize of making beautiful music with? Is About the three most important record- there any deceased composer that ever I only answer for me: Sgt. Pep­ you would like to have had the op­ per's, one by Varese and one you can portunity to perform with? About a fantasy of "making beautiful music," I may give you a list of peo­ What's thebest thing about Canada? ple we could not reach or meet on The best thing about Canada is empty time for our two Urgent Meeting al­ bums: Shelley Hirsch, Lol Coxhill, , Tom Cora, Robert Wyatt, What's the best album to come from Omette Coleman, Michel Portal, Canada? Catherine Ringer, Lester Bowie, The best album from Canada is any RichardTeitelbaum, HeinerGoebbels, record by Glenn Gould. And Le Tresor Dieter Dittmann, and so many others. de la Langue by Rene Lussier (to But w speak of a guy well alive). About a deceased composer, let's say theones I loved, all inventors: Charles Un Drame Mi Instantane was Ives, Hector Berlioz, Edgar Varese, once reviewrevieweed in File Magazine. John Cage and Jimi Hendrix (whom I Does Claudia Schiffer like UDMI? both had the pleasure to meet), and Doyou think Cindy Crawford would maybe Charlie Mingus. like UDMI? I don't know who is Claudia Schiffer. If I am not mistaken, your press Is Cindy Crawford Joan's daughter? I release indicates that youhavebeen just love Joan Crawford in Nicholas involved in theatrical exhibitions Ray's Johnny Guitare. .^ and soundtrack material. What is the extent of your work with visual Does Bernard require a license to ___r JH"_____- look like the guy from The Box? We don't know The Box. About We've played huge things such as Bernard's license to look like one of J'accuse by Emile Zola, with actor them, be careful of whom did it first, Richard Bohringer, a 70 piece har­ Bernard is 58! Ixt them send royal­ mony orchestra, etc., in a big, natural, ties to our address. urban theatre, entirely repainted in blue, witha lotof scenery. InZappeurs- On their Conspiracy International Pompiers we were playing live TV on Project, Chris & Cosey "highly rec­ Way back in the early days of Placebo's Dry Lungs InternatioriM series, a wide screen, direct with the LA ommend headphones" to listen to Olympic Gaines transmitted through Un Drame Musical Instantane was corralled alongside what are today some very familiar the album, or "alternately listen satellite. Sous les Mers was a tremen­ names in the realm of difficult music: Asmus Tiechens, Controlled Bleeding, , Zeni through speakers at loud dous show on two boats in Jules Veme's Geva, Tom Ellard and Rowena's pal, Jeff Greinke, from right up here in the Pac 10. UDMI volume...give priority to aural have been included on the most recent editions of the Dry Lungs program, yet six years after senses." Is there such a thing as an their original contribution, series compiler Paul Lemos' write-up still rings true: UDMI There appears to be a thriving in­ inaudible sound or subconscious dependently-promoted French sounds? remain foreign to the ears of most North Americans. Yeah. Minus readers of Discorder. music scene...Xray Pop, Bene You may listen loud or low unless Discorder: What is the objec­ chestra (A Travail Egal Salaire Egal, I like independent composers. Who Gesserit, Norma Loy, Trisomie 21, you don't do anything else but listen­ tive, written or unwritten, of Un Les Bons Contes Font les Bons Amis comes to mind today: Georges Nox, Geins't Nait, Costes, Ludwig ing. We call our work "blind movies." Drame Musical Instantane? and L'homme a la Camera LPs). In Aperghis, John Zom (I like his cut- Von 88 are among those groups Jean-Jacques Birge of Un Drame 1986, we decided to play live what we ups pieces, hate his thrash-masochist known in North America. Would Musical Instantane: "Un" because userl to play cutting parts in the studio. things), Kronos Quartet (not their jazz you care to comment on the scene? Un Drame Musical Instantane D no recording nor live show will And many changes happened with die pieces!), Rene Lussier, Michael I don't know any ofthe French groups GRRR Records **^—• look like another one. We try to rise of the CD. Our records are con­ Mander—I could have said Conlon you write about. Maybe they are too ; something ni ceived as final works, they do not reflect Nancarrow, Frank Zappa or Robert rock (in die American style) for us. Cocteai ning don Wyatt, as John Cage and Miles Davis We need to be surprised at each piece. France -Drait .• Mu different things. So followed the CDs died recently. I admire all the people Many musicians exploit just one idea L 'Hallali(something classical with the who've accepted to work with us! in all their work. Rock was not like opera-bouffe La Fosse), Sous les Mers that 20 years ago, it was very inven­ 1 1 GRRR Records is your distribu­ tive. Maybe I shall be surprised by graphic) and Qui Vive? (quite crazy tion channel/record company, these groups someday. Their economic back lo "Un." At the beginning of for an album), we worked then with correct? Keeping in mind the un- status is much worse than ours. die group in 1976 we userl to ini- literature (Le K and Jeune Fille Qui pop-rock nature of your music, isit Tombe...Tombe, novels by Dino possible for you to recoup yonr in­ Is there a strong musical under­ term, preferring the irlea of some­ Buzzati) as we userl to do it widi silent vestments? ground in Paris? How is it different diing diat was completely different movies (we were the initiators of this GRRR Records is our production la­ than in the smaller communities of die second before and die second movement in Europe with 19 films on bel, we're not a distributor. Wecannot France? later. Tliree directions draw our our repertoire). say we earn money with the record Living very independently, for so many work: fiction, collective and mix­ Finally, we've decided to record production, it is part of a bigger thing, years, I don't know die underground ing. Fiction: we don't compose Urgent Meeting and Operation Blow and we do earn our living very well scene, which often follows a fashion nor play pure music, we work on Up with 33 guests from all musical with our music, only with our music. year after year. We don't. We just sense. Collective: we compose col­ origias—that was a way to open our We do not have any problem being follow the story of humanity and my lectively, auto-criticizing, arguing. independent status (we have our own what you call "un-pop-rock" because way of thinking has not changed even It's not die subject but die object studio, we often prorluce records and we don't feel that way and because if my ideas have moved a lot. It's that counts for us. We do work in shows ourselves) and meet other peo­ we've made things that pop-rock mu­ often harder outside of Paris as our j such a manner widi all the people, ple we liked. Since Kind Lieder we've sicians have difficulties doing, such stateisverycentralizedonParis.Many musicians, actors, painters, etc., decide- to compose songs to reach as music for films, theatre, dance, things happen in cities like Rennes or trusting tlieinifwe'vechosen them. more people. As we have had every­ etc., or being played at the Opera de Toulouse, because there aremany stu­ Mixing: real and virtual instru­ thing we've dreamed of, only apopular Pans.... Maybe Zappa has done s dents, but Paris remains the place. ments, mixing all kind of roots sslul I'm a Parisian and I love diis city. (contemporary, rock, jazz, diea- (we love to take risks and do things we mours! don't know!). 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