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Vol. 146 , WEDNESDAY, MAY 17, 2000 No. 61 House of Representatives The House met at 9 a.m. RECESS bers of the House and Senate who are Commissioner John Busby, National The SPEAKER. Pursuant to the present today. Commander, Salvation Army, Alexan- order of the House of Thursday, May 11, The Clerk called the roll of the dria, Virginia, offered the following 2000, the House will stand in recess sub- former Members of Congress, and the prayer: ject to the call of the Chair to receive following former Members answered to Almighty God, Creator, Preserver the former Members of Congress. their names: and Governor of all things, we humbly Accordingly (at 9 o’clock and 5 min- ROLLCALL OF FORMER MEMBERS OF CONGRESS bow before You on behalf of those gath- utes a.m.) the House stood in recess ATTENDING 30TH ANNUAL SPRING MEETING ered here; individuals who find pleasure subject to the call of the Chair. THE UNITED STATES ASSOCIATION OF FORMER in serving the people of this great f MEMBERS OF CONGRESS country. William V. (Bill) Alexander (Arkan- With thankful hearts for Your good- RECEPTION OF FORMER MEMBERS sas) ness to each of them, we earnestly pray OF CONGRESS J. Glenn Beall, Jr. (Maryland) that You will take their minds and The SPEAKER of the House presided. Tom Bevill (Alabama) give them a new measure of wisdom, The SPEAKER. Good morning. On Daniel B. Brewster (Maryland) take their hearts and fill them with behalf of the House of Representatives, Donald G. Brotzman () Your love for others, and take their it gives me great pleasure to welcome Clarence J. Brown, Jr. (Ohio) wills and make them more obedient to to the Chamber today the former Mem- James T. Broyhill (North Carolina) Your will. bers of Congress. This is your annual John H. Buchanan (Alabama) May Your servants here proceed step meeting. And, of course, many of you Jack Buechner () by step, hour by hour to meet the chal- are personal friends from both sides of Albert G. Bustamante (Texas) lenges You have given them so that in the aisle, and it is important that you Beverly B. Byron (Maryland) the end, the purpose that You have set are here certainly to renew those Elford A. Cederberg () out for this House of Representatives friendships. Charles E. Chamberlain (Michigan) may be accomplished for the enrich- As a report from the President will Rod Chandler (Washington) ment of people across this land and to indicate, you honor this House and the William F. Clinger (Pennsylvania) Your honor and glory. Nation by your continuing efforts to R. Lawrence Coughlin (Pennsylvania) This we pray in Your holy name. export the concept of representative James K. Coyne (Pennsylvania) Amen. democracy to countries all over the E (Kika) de la Garza (Texas) f world and to college campuses around Ben L. Erdreich (Alabama) this country. I endorse those efforts John N. Erlenborn (Illinois) THE JOURNAL and hope you will pursue that and con- Don Fuqua (Florida) The SPEAKER. The Chair has exam- tinue it. Robert Garcia (New York) ined the Journal of the last day’s pro- I also endorse your wise choice of Robert N. Giaimo (Connecticut) ceedings and announces to the House Chaplain Emeritus James D. Ford as Gilbert Gude (Maryland) his approval thereof. the recipient of the Distinguished Serv- Robert P. Hanrahan (Illinois) Pursuant to clause 1, rule I, the Jour- ice Award. Chaplain Ford will finally William D. Hathaway (Maine) nal stands approved. have his opportunity, which he has Dennis M. Hertel (Michigan) f long sought, to speak from the floor of George J. Hochbrueckner (New York) the House, a privileged reserved only to William J. Hughes (New Jersey) PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Members. I would remind him, how- Hastings Keith (Massachusetts) The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman ever, that the proceedings are tech- David S. King (Utah) from Georgia (Mr. DEAL) come forward nically held within the House in recess, Ernest Konnyu (California) and lead the House in the Pledge of Al- just to place things in perspective. Lawrence P. (Larry) LaRocco (Idaho) legiance. At this time, I would request that my Claude (Buddy) Leach (Louisiana) Mr. DEAL of Georgia led the Pledge friend, the gentleman from Illinois, Mr. Marilyn Lloyd (Tennessee) of Allegiance as follows: Erlenborn, Vice President of the Cathy Long (Louisiana) I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the Former Members Association, take the Andrew Maguire (New Jersey) United States of America, and to the Repub- Chair. Romano L. Mazzoli (Kentucky) lic for which it stands, one nation under God, Mr. ERLENBORN (presiding). The Matthew F. McHugh (New York) indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Clerk will call the roll of former Mem- Jan Meyers (Kansas)

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VerDate 11-MAY-2000 02:56 May 18, 2000 Jkt 079060 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A17MY7.000 pfrm12 PsN: H17PT1 H3176 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE May 17, 2000 Robert H. Michel (Illinois) I also want to say that I look forward out the United States meeting for- Abner J. Mikva (Illinois) to, I do not know how many of you mally and informally with students, Clarence E. Miller (Ohio) going to go to the event on China but also with Members of the faculty John S. Monagan (Connecticut) today, but I am on the panel discus- and the local communities. G.V. (Sonny) Montgomery (Mis- sion. So I look forward to a vigorous It is a great experience for all Mem- sissippi) debate and discussion of that issue as bers, and those who have participated Shirley N. Pettis (California) well. have always enjoyed it. But our pri- William R. Ratchford (Connecticut) So welcome. I look forward to vis- mary goal is to generate a deeper ap- Marty Russo (Illinois) iting with you today, and I hope you preciation for our democratic form of George E. Sangmeister (Illinois) have a wonderful experience back in government and the need for young Ronald A. Sarasin (Connecticut) your House. Thank you. people in particular to participate ac- Patricia Schroeder (Colorado) The SPEAKER pro tempore. The tively in the political process. Richard T. Schulze (Pennsylvania) Since the program’s inception in 1976, Dennis A. Smith (Oregon) Chair announces that 49 former Mem- bers of Congress have responded to 119 former Members of Congress have Neal E. Smith (Iowa) reached more than 150,000 students Gerald B.H. Solomon (New York) their names. A quorum is present. through 267 visits to 183 campuses in 49 James V. Stanton (Ohio) The Chair will now recognize the gen- States and the District of Columbia. James W. Symington (Missouri) tleman from New York, the Honorable In recent years we have conducted Steve Symms (Idaho) Matthew McHugh, President of our as- Robert S. Walker (Pennsylvania) sociation, for such time as he may con- the program jointly with the Stennis Charles W. Whalen, Jr. (Ohio) sume, and to yield for appropriate re- Center for Public Service at Mississippi James C. Wright, Jr. (Texas) marks to other Members. State University. The former Members Roger H. Zion (Indiana) GENERAL LEAVE donate their time to the program, the Stennis Center pays transportation Mr. ERLENBORN (presiding). The Mr. MCHUGH. Mr. Speaker, I ask costs, and the host institution provides Chair now recognized the distinguished unanimous consent that all Members room and board. minority whip, the gentleman from may have 5 legislative days within At this point, Mr. Speaker, I would Michigan (Mr. BONIOR) for such re- which to revise and extend their re- marks as he may make. like to yield to Rod Chandler, the gen- marks. tleman from the State of Washington, Mr. BONIOR. Mr. Speaker, it is good The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there to discuss his participation in this Con- to be with you again. We welcome you objection to the request of the gen- back to the Capitol. I want to echo the gress to Campus program. tleman from New York? Mr. CHANDLER. Mr. Speaker, it has comments of the gentleman from Illi- There was no objection. been my privilege to visit five cam- nois (Mr. HASTERT), my dear friend and Mr. MCHUGH. Mr. Speaker, my puses under the Congress to Campus our Speaker, when I say to you this thanks to our Speaker pro tempore and program of the United States Former morning that it is good to see so many to all of my colleagues for being with Members of Congress Association. I am familiar faces and to comment how us this morning. We are, of course, es- an enthusiastic supporter of this pro- comfortable you look in your seats. pecially grateful to the Speaker, DEN- gram, and I believe that we are making I am sure, as some of you know, I NIS HASTERT, for taking time from his an important contribution toward the look forward some day of joining you very busy schedule to be with us, and understanding of and respect for our all in your present capacity, but not to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Nation’s policy-making institution too soon. The great American historian BONIOR) for his warm welcome as well. itself, particularly the Congress of the and diplomat, John Kenneth Galbraith, It is always a privilege for us to re- United States. once said that nothing is so admirable turn to this great institution which we In March, my former colleague from in politics as a short memory. But revere and where we shared so many Michigan, , and I were when I look out at those of you who are memorable experiences. Service in guests at Meridian Community College sitting here this morning, think that is Congress, as we know, is both a joy and in Meridian, Mississippi. Diann Sollie, really not true at all, because what we a heavy responsibility, and whatever Chair of the Social Science Division of really need more than anything in this our party affiliation, we have great ad- the school, was the faculty in charge of institution today is to depend upon miration for those who continue to our visit. In 2 days, we spoke to eight your institutional memory to recap- serve in this place for the country. separate classrooms, met with talented ture the great, not only concepts and We thank them all once again for and gifted high school students from principles, but traditions of this body, giving us this opportunity to report on the Meridian area, and visited infor- which I think we are slowly putting the activities of our Association of mally with Meridian Community Col- back together after a very difficult pe- Former Members of Congress. lege students. riod of time that we have gone through This is our 30th annual report to Con- Dennis Hertel and I are good friends in the last decade. gress. Our association is nonpartisan, and we present a compatible team. We So I want to welcome all of you back or bipartisan. It has been chartered but do differ on major subjects, however, on behalf of and our not funded by the Congress. We have a and the students appeared to enjoy and leadership. I wish you a good day wide variety of domestic and inter- appreciate our frank discussion of today. Thank you for honoring Jim national programs which I and others these policy questions. We also spoke Ford, who I know many of you have this morning will briefly summarize in with students of our personal political served with while you were in the our report. careers and provided advice to those House of Representatives. He is a very Our membership now is approxi- who expressed an interest in developing special and a very dear man. mately 600 men and women, the pur- political careers of their own. I remember one instance when I was pose of which is to continue in some Mr. Speaker, thousands of young men in the hospital with Jim, we were at, I small measure the service to the coun- and women in this country are fas- think it was Walter Reed, we both were try that we began during our terms of cinated by what takes place here in pretty ill and we were going down for service here in the House or in the Sen- this Chamber and in the Senate. They an operation together. They wheeled us ate. would like to contribute to their coun- just coincidentally out of our ward to- I think our most significant domestic try and play a role in the world’s great- gether. We got out of the elevator to- activities are our Congress to Campus est democracy. I believe the Former gether. We went down the elevator to- program. As most know, this is a bipar- Members of Congress Association pro- gether and we separated. And just be- tisan effort to share with college stu- vides a valuable contrast to the often fore we separated to go on our respec- dents throughout the country our in- misleading news coverage of Congress. tive surgical rooms he said to me, sights on the work of Congress and on I would like to thank the Stennis ‘‘BONIOR, I want you to remember, this the political process more generally. Center for its support of Congress to is what I call real chaplainship.’’ He A team of former Members, one Dem- Campus, and the fine staff of the was there for me in my hour of need ocrat and one Republican, spend up to former Members of Congress associa- right into the operating room. 21⁄2 days on college campuses through- tion, ably led by Linda Reed, for the

VerDate 11-MAY-2000 02:56 May 18, 2000 Jkt 079060 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A17MY7.001 pfrm12 PsN: H17PT1 May 17, 2000 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3177 coordinating role that they play. My In addition, congressional support over 160 Members of the sitting Con- hope is that we former Members will staff will outline the services available gress participate in the Study Group, continue to demonstrate for America’s to former Members of Congress. As in and the activities are certainly ones to young people the treasure we have in the past, the seminar will be followed be proud of and to certainly serve as a the form of a country where every cit- by a reception sponsored by the auxil- model for any other bicameral rela- izen, if they choose to, has a say in iary to the association which will af- tionship. public policy. ford more time for informal exchanges. Both parties are represented in the Mr. MCHUGH. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, beyond the events we Study Group, and they come from all Rod. One outgrowth of the Congress to organize here, the association is very regions of the country. Currently, the Campus program was an interest in active in sponsoring programs that are two Senate leaders are TIM JOHNSON producing a book that would take an international in scope. Over the years, and BILL ROTH, and on the House side, inside look at Congress from differing we have gained experience in fostering the current chairman of our group is viewpoints. There are many fine books interaction between the leaders of JOHN LAFALCE of New York, and he is written by individual Members of Con- other nations and the United States. joined by JOEL HEFLEY of Colorado as gress, but to our knowledge, there was We have arranged 410 special events at the vice chairman. no compendium that goes behind the the U.S. Capitol for international dele- The support, although it is under the scenes in a very personal way. gations from 85 countries and the Euro- aegis of the Congress, the financial So, our immediate past president, pean Parliament, programmed short- support actually comes from the Ger- Lou Frey, recruited more than 30 Mem- term visits for individual Members of man Marshal Fund and from generous bers of Congress, former Members, and parliaments, and long-term visits for donations from German-American busi- their spouses to write chapters for a parliamentary staff. ness groups. book on Congress. It is being coedited We have hosted 46 foreign policy sem- Since the last meeting of the former by Lou and by the head of the political inars in nine countries involving more Members, the Congressional Study science department at Colgate Univer- than 1,500 former and current parlia- Group on Germany has conducted 17 sity, Professor Michael Hayes. The mentarians, and we have conducted 18 events as part of the Distinguished book is scheduled to go to press later study tours abroad for Members of Con- Visitors Program, and that brings Ger- this year, and we hope that all of you gress. man dignitaries to the United States will find it interesting reading. The association also serves as a sec- Congress to meet with Members of the Mr. Speaker, as you know, although retariat for the Congressional Study Study Group. Just as an example, some many of our former Members live in Group on Germany. As many know, of the visiting dignitaries last year the Washington area, there are quite a this is the largest and most active ex- were Anke Fuchs, the vice president of few who reside in other parts of the change program between the U.S. Con- the ; Peter Struck, the ma- country. Therefore, in an effort to gress and the parliament of another jority floor leader in the Bundestag; broaden participation in the associa- country. Founded in 1987 in the House Hans-Ulrich Klose, the chairman of the tion’s work, we have had some meet- and 1988 in the Senate, it is a bipar- Bundestag’s Foreign Affairs Com- ings outside of Washington. In recent tisan group of 171 representatives and mittee; and recently , years, for example, we have held meet- senators. They are afforded the oppor- Germany’s vice chancellor and foreign ings in the western region, and Cali- tunity to meet with their counterparts minister. fornia in particular. in the German Bundestag to enhance When these dignitaries come in, the In November of last year, the meet- meetings are, of course, both formal ing was in San Diego. In addition to en- understanding and greater cooperation. and informal. They make themselves joying many of the attractions of that Ongoing Study Group activities include available for press briefings and for beautiful area, our Members met with conducting a distinguished visitors students and faculty at San Diego program at the U.S. Capitol for guests public dialogue. Following that, there State University as well as the Univer- from Germany, sponsoring annual sem- is memoranda that are circulated from sity of California at San Diego. Also inars involving Members of Congress both the Bundestag and the Congress. former Members Lynn Schenk and and the Bundestag, providing informa- They are made available to various Paul Rogers, who serve on the board of tion about participants in the Con- committees and certainly to the 160 directors of Scripps Research Institute, gress-Bundestag Youth Exchange Pro- Members of the Study Group who cur- arranged a briefing and a reception for gram to appropriate Members of Con- rently serve. These issues, I believe, us at the institute. gress, and arranging for Members of are of international trade, defense, and This year the regional meeting will the Bundestag to visit congressional the types of issues that, of course, our be held in Austin, Texas, from October districts with Members of Congress. Members need very much to hear 21 to 25. Our former colleagues, Jake New activities are being explored to about. Pickle and Jack Hightower, are plan- enhance these opportunities. Last month, right prior to the Easter ning an interesting schedule that will The Congressional Study Group on vacation, the 17th meeting of the Joint include visits to the LBJ Library and Germany is funded primarily by the Study Group was conducted and held in ranch, tours of the State Capitol build- German Marshall Fund of the United Niagara Falls, New York. Our House ing and other local attractions, as well States. Additional funding, with the Chairman, JOHN LAFALCE, was the as meetings with students at the Uni- help of Tom Coleman, our former col- host. versity of Texas. Joel Wyatt last night league, has also been obtained from We had Members of the Bundestag, I also volunteered to help with our pro- eight corporations and they are rep- think we had seven Members of the gram in Austin as well. resented now on the Business Advisory Bundestag and nine sitting Members of We certainly hope that many of you Council to the Study Group. the were there. will be able to join us for what prom- I would like at this point to yield to Along with it we had four former Mem- ises to be a very worthwhile and enjoy- our friend and colleague from Missouri, bers of Congress, John Erlenborn, Lou able time. Jack Buechner, to report on the 17th Frey, Tom Coleman of Missouri, and After the November elections, the as- annual Congress-Bundestag Seminar, myself. And we were joined by business sociation will again sponsor what we which was held recently in Niagara leaders of the German-American busi- have called the Life After Congress Falls, and other activities. ness community. Seminar, a program we have tradition- Mr. BUECHNER. Mr. Speaker, I We conducted discussions about ev- ally organized for the benefit of Mem- thank the gentleman for yielding. I erything ranging from WTO to the role bers who are leaving the Congress. Dur- think everyone who has served in the of NATO, whether there was going to ing the seminar, former Members now Congress since 1987 will be aware of the be a European Army come up, the rela- working in the public and private sec- fact that the Congressional Study tionship of the EU, and such things as tors will share insights with retiring Group between the United States Con- relationships with China. And it was Members about career opportunities gress and the Bundestag is the largest really a great event, because there was and the personal adjustments involved of any of the cooperative relationships an opportunity for everybody to take in this transition. with other parliaments. Currently, off their legislator’s hat and put on the

VerDate 11-MAY-2000 01:06 May 18, 2000 Jkt 079060 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K17MY7.006 pfrm12 PsN: H17PT1 H3178 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE May 17, 2000 one of really an ambassador of good- that we have been coordinating for logue, as our new chaplain will be in- will. Germany and Japan. terested to know, was an extremely in- But the discussions became very hot I would like now, Mr. Speaker, to teresting one. and heavy, especially on topics such as yield to the gentlewoman from Mary- The delegation also had an interest PNTR. We were able to go to Niagara land, Beverly Byron, to discuss the Oc- in seeing something outside of Wash- Falls. I do have to say that the weather tober visit and future plans for the ex- ington, and so I grabbed on the oppor- was a little rainy, a little windy, a lit- change program with China. tunity and we took them to Annapolis. tle bleak, and there were only a few Ms. BYRON. Mr. Speaker, I would They were given an opportunity to flowers and trees budding, but it had like to say, first of all, that I think it visit Annapolis for about an hour and a no effect upon the camaraderie that is interesting to note that the Senate half on their own, at which time they was established amongst the group. Finance Committee and the House came back with numerous pictures, Barber Conable, our former Member Committee on Ways and Means are and we had an extensive visit and din- from New York, and also the former taking up today the Most Favored Na- ner at the Naval Academy, but they all head of the World Bank, joined us and tion Status for China. And so it is wanted their picture taken with their we had a very lengthy discussion. This timely and appropriate that we discuss postcard in front of the statue that was was at the old Fort Niagara, and we the Chinese exchange program that at the Naval Academy. really did have a great time there, and this body has begun. They had dinner in the dining hall I think that it really augurs well for In August of 1996, 10 former Members with the midshipmen. It was quite a the continuation of the program. had an opportunity, at the invitation revelation for many of them to realize Next year, the meeting for the first of the Chinese government, to spend, I that there were 4,000 midshipmen that time will be held in what was formerly guess, about 8, 9 days in China, an ex- ate in one room, and we had a very in- East Germany up around the Baltic, tremely exciting and interesting trip. teresting discussion because there are and I would hope that we will have a And as a return, a delegation of nine four professors at the academy that are good attendance from our current members of the National People’s Con- of Chinese origin and speak the dif- Members as well as the former Mem- gress, the Standing Committee and the ferent dialects. So we did not have to bers. So thank you very much. The Foreign Affairs group, visited Wash- work through interpreters that growth is one to be admired and the ington this year from October 11 to 16. evening. participation of the former Members is The Chinese government paid the They also had an opportunity to visit certainly a good relationship for us to international transportation costs for the Maryland State House. I was inter- continue with the sitting Members, and the delegation and we picked up the ested to note that the Maryland Sec- the board looks forward to continu- costs while they were here. retary of State, John Willis, we have ation of the program. It marked the inauguration of a U.S.- an active ongoing program with the Mr. MCHUGH. Thank you very much, China Interparliamentary Exchange Chinese exchange so he was delighted. Jack. The association also serves as group whose members were appointed As an outgrowth of this, the congres- the secretariat for the Congressional by Speaker Hastert in the late sum- sional delegation that they met with Study Group on Japan. This was found- mer. The chair of that group is Rep- have been working and will be looking ed in 1993 in cooperation with the East- resentative DONALD MANZULLO of Illi- forward to a return exchange visit, West Center in Hawaii. It is a bipar- nois, and DOUG BEREUTER of Nebraska probably a year from now, with some of tisan group of 80 Members in the House is vice chair, and TOM LANTOS of Cali- the same Members that they met with and Senate with an additional 55 Mem- fornia is ranking Democrat. before. bers who have asked to be kept in- They had a visit to the Hill with four Let me take 2 seconds, because no formed of the Study Group activities. rounds of meetings between Members one can control a Member and no one In addition to providing substantive of Congress and their Chinese counter- can control a former Member unless opportunities for Members of Congress parts. In addition to the meetings with they bang the gavel, but, Rod, you to meet with their counterparts in the the Members, the Chinese delegation talked about the campus program. I Japanese Diet, the Study Group ar- held extensive talks with Kurt Camp- had an opportunity to go visit the Uni- ranges monthly briefings when Con- bell of the Department of Defense, Tom versity of Utah in Salt Lake City with gress is in session for Members to hear Pickering, Department of State, Susan Barbara Vucanovich, and it was an ex- from American and Japanese experts Shirk, Deputy Assistant Secretary for tremely wonderful 3 days interacting about various aspects of the U.S.-Japa- East Asian and Pacific Affairs, and with the students. So for anybody that nese relationship. then they went to the General Ac- has not participated in those programs, The Congressional Study Group on counting Office and then Matt took I cannot urge you enough to try. Japan is funded primarily by the care of them when they went down and Thank you. Japan-U.S. Friendship Commission. visited with the World Bank. Mr. MCHUGH. Thank you, Bev. Be- Last year, Mr. Speaker, the associa- They met with the Office of U.S. fore we leave the subject of China, let tion began a parliamentary exchange Trade Representative, the National Se- me just remind everybody that imme- program with the People’s Republic of curity Council, U.S.-Chinese Business diately after our proceedings here on China. In October, with funding from Council and U.S.-Chinese scholars. So the floor, we are going to have a panel, the U.S. Information Agency, the asso- we can see they had an extremely very distinguished panel, including ciation hosted a delegate of nine Mem- broad opportunity to be exposed. DAVE BONIOR who mentioned it when bers of the National People’s Congress During the meetings with Congress, he was here, on the subject of China- here in Washington. as well as during the talks with rep- U.S. relations and, of course, particu- This visit marked the inauguration resentatives in the administration, larly on this pending issue of trade re- of the U.S.-China Interparliamentary many contentious issues came up. lations with China. So we encourage all Exchange Group, whose members have Human rights, Taiwan, trade deficit, of you to come to that panel presen- been appointed by the Speaker. The as- the U.S. bombing of the embassy, and tation immediately after this at about sociation has been asked by the De- joining the World Trade Organization. 10:30. partment of State to submit a proposal These conversations were sometimes The U.S. Congress and the Congress to fund a visit to China by members of difficult and sometimes there was a of Mexico have been conducting annual this exchange group next year. We are meeting of the mind. seminars for about 39 years under the also seeking funding to initiate a Con- It was interesting, one of the mem- auspices of the Interparliamentary gressional Study Group on China, bers of the delegation was the Chinese Group; however, there is still little which would hold monthly meetings at Bishop of Beijing who wished to meet interaction between the legislators the Capitol for current Members to dis- with Catholic officials while he was from our two countries during the rest cuss with American and Chinese ex- here, or some priests. We were able to of the year. The association hopes to perts topics of particular concern. Ob- set up a meeting at Georgetown Uni- initiate a Congressional Study Group viously, this would follow the same versity with Father Bill Byron, who on Mexico with funding from the Tin- pattern as these other study groups was formerly head of CU, and the dia- ker Foundation, so that Members of

VerDate 11-MAY-2000 02:56 May 18, 2000 Jkt 079060 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K17MY7.008 pfrm12 PsN: H17PT1 May 17, 2000 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3179 Congress can meet on a regular basis ence in 1991, remained in place and government. Changes at the top have with visiting Mexican dignitaries and served as a retarding influence on any not been followed by changes through- other experts on our mutual relation- internal effort to modernize the par- out the organizational structure in the ship. liament or to pass reform legislation. country, whether in the executive, the In the aftermath of the political During the past 5 years, the intern legislative, or judicial branches. The changes in Europe, the association program supported by this association idea of intern programs designed to began a series of programs in 1989 to has included more than 250 young bring new and energetic staffs to the assist the emerging democracies of Ukrainian university graduates, drawn region is an idea that should be fol- Central and Eastern Europe. With especially from law schools or those lowed in other countries. It is a great funding from the U.S. Information departments specializing in economics strength of our democracy and our gov- Agency, the association sent bipartisan politics and social issues. Interns have ernment really that we have such a teams of former Members, accom- served not so much as interns as we wide breadth of experience, and people panied by either a congressional or know them in our Congress, but really that are involved in what they call country expert, to the Czech Republic as the staff of the parliament. They civil society over there, and civic soci- to, Slovakia, Hungary and Poland for have drafted laws, they have provided ety. up to 2 weeks. They conducted work- research, they supported member of The people have other interests. shops and provided instruction on leg- parliament needs and provided a bridge They bring other people into it. They islative issues for new members of par- to western parliament processes and teach others. And that is what this as- liament in those countries as well as western analysis. sociation has accomplished for the their staffs and other persons involved Few members of parliament speak or Ukraine. I believe that is what this as- in the legislative process. read western languages. It has been a sociation can accomplish continually They also made public appearances requirement that each candidate be throughout Eastern and Central Eu- to discuss the American political proc- conversant in a key western language, rope, where the assistance is needed so ess. In addition, the association particularly English. The activity of much and the involvement of the mem- brought delegations of members of par- the interns has helped bring a greater bers of this association is needed so liament from all of these countries to sense of relevance to committee work much. The Ukrainian program, this as- the U.S. for 2-week visits. Also with and by assisting in raising the quality sociation believes, will be a lasting leg- funds from this USIA, the association of work in the parliament, the par- acy and an example for what can be sent a technical advisor to the Hun- liament is in better position to play its done in Eastern and Central Europe. garian parliament from 1991 to 1993. role in the emerging Ukrainian democ- Mr. MCHUGH. Thank you, Dennis. With financial support from the Pew racy. Because of the success of our intern- Charitable Trust in 1994, the associa- There is evidence of success. The ship program in Ukraine, as has been tion assigned technical advisors to the number of young Ukrainians interested mentioned, the National Democratic Slovak and Ukrainian parliaments. in applying for intern positions con- Institute for International Affairs, This initial support was supplemented tinues to soar as does the demand by with funding from the Agency for by other grants to enable Congres- Ukrainian members of parliament for International Development, asked the sional Fellows to extend their stays. interns to be assigned to their commit- association to replicate this program Since 1995, with funding from the tees or their offices. in Macedonia. In September of last U.S. Agency for International Develop- In the parliamentary year ending year, we sent John Hart, who was given ment and the Eurasia Foundation, the this summer, 65 interns have been in- leave from his responsibility as press association has managed a very highly volved in the program. Earlier interns Secretary to Representative TOM successful program to place out- who completed the program have found COBURN, to Macedonia for 6 months to standing Ukrainian students in intern- many excellent job opportunities. establish a program for 65 interns to the Macedonian parliament, to initiate ships with committees in the Ukrain- Some remain as parliamentary staff- a research and analysis program, and ian parliament. This program meets ers, others have entered the executive branch, while some return to academia to conduct public outreach. not only the parliament’s short-term Funds were also included to permit and a significant number seek to enter need for having a well-educated moti- several former Members of Congress to the growing private sector and business vated and professionally trained staff, travel to Macedonia to assist with this there in the Ukraine, the media, or but also the longer term need to de- effort. One of those, as Dennis men- velop a cadre of trained professionals. think tanks. The group represents a tioned, was John Erlenborn. At this At this point, Mr. Speaker, I would veritable young leaders cadre, which is point, I would like to yield to the gen- like to yield to the gentleman from essential for the democratic develop- tleman from Illinois to tell us about Michigan, Dennis Hertel, to report on ment of Ukraine. his participation in that program. our program in Ukraine. Later this year, our association in- Mr. ERLENBORN. I thank the gen- Mr. HERTEL. Mr. Speaker, I thank tends to turn the direction of the pro- tleman for yielding and request the the gentleman from New York. Last gram over to the local Ukrainian man- gentleman assume the Chair during the year I had the pleasure of advising the agement to ensure its long-term viabil- course of my remarks. Congress about the continued progress ity. Two independent Ukrainian Mr. Speaker, the scope of the activi- of our program in Ukraine. I am now groups, one academic and the other, ties of our association are not very able to report that our goals have been the Association of Ukrainian Deputies, well-known by the public. One of the achieved. We will be completing 6 years have committed themselves to main- important programs we have under- of assistance to the Ukrainian par- taining the high professional standards taken is providing help to emerging de- liament. and the nonpartisan selection process. mocracies, especially their par- I want to give a special ‘‘thank you’’ The Ukrainian program has proved to liaments. on behalf of our association to Walt be an excellent pilot and worth replica- In January of this year, I traveled to Raymond, Bill Brown, our former par- tion in other emerging democracies, Skopje, Macedonia, to confer with liamentarian, and our colleague, particularly in the Central/East Euro- members of the Macedonian par- . Our most lasting accom- pean and NIS areas. As my colleague, liament concerning the intern program plishment has been to create and sus- John Erlenborn, has described or will that we have established for them. This tain for 5 years a robust internship in describe today, the Ukrainian model program was patterned after the one the parliament. has been successfully replicated in that we had established and operated Five years ago, few, if any new staff- Macedonia by this association. for several years in the Ukraine. ers, were hired by the Ukrainian par- This program initiative which sup- Under a subgrant from the National liament. There was no new blood, no ports emerging democratic parliaments Democratic Institute, we chose a staff- fresh thinking at the staff level. Staff focuses on personnel, one of the key er from the Hill, and Matt has already holdovers, appointed by the former weaknesses throughout the former identified him as John Hart, who communist leaders of the Soviet Union communist region, but the key to hav- worked in Macedonia selecting univer- before Ukraine received its independ- ing a successful developed democratic sity students and recent graduates in

VerDate 11-MAY-2000 02:56 May 18, 2000 Jkt 079060 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K17MY7.010 pfrm12 PsN: H17PT1 H3180 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE May 17, 2000 that country, training them to provide legislature operates, I always prefaced The trip, as I understand it, was very research and drafting services for the it by saying we have been working at successful, and at this point I would members of parliament who lack such this for more than 200 years, and we do like to yield to the gentleman from resources. not expect, number one, that you are New York, Gerry Solomon, to tell us A young Macedonian lawyer also was going to be able to achieve the same about that study tour and the plans for engaged to work with John in launch- kind of a legislative process too rap- next year. ing the project, with a view toward idly; and, secondly, it does not have to (Mr. SOLOMON asked and was given grooming her to manage the project be exactly like ours. You choose your permission to revise and extend his re- when John returned to the United own, but it has to have some of the marks.) States, which he did about a month basic elements that any free demo- Mr. SOLOMON. Thank you, Mr. ago. cratic legislature must have. President and former Members, Chap- National elections delayed the full I believe that each and every one of lain Ford, Speaker Jim Wright sitting implementation of the intern project us having served our country in the over there, and certainly our leader, late last year. The interns were as- past still have an urge to serve in some Bob Michel sitting over here. Let me be signed to various party caucuses, but capacity. With our experience, we can brief because we are running out of were not able to be fully utilized until help other countries move toward re- time reporting on the study tour this after the elections. sponsive, democratic governments. It past March. And, Mr. Speaker, I hope By the time I arrived, interns and would be a shame to waste the resource you would not recognize Bob Walker to members have begun to work together, that we represent. I hope that we can object to my request to revise and ex- and I interviewed some members to ob- have more programs such as those in tend. tain their impressions. As one would Ukraine and Macedonia. The study tour to Italy was a huge expect, members’ use of the interns Mr. MCHUGH. Mr. Speaker, in De- success, thanks to the outstanding ad- varied. Generally, however, they as- cember of 1996, the association sent a vance planning and organization by our signed information-gathering tasks to delegation of current and former Mem- executive director, Linda Reed, sitting them so that members would have a bers to Cuba on a study mission to as- over here. The well-attended meetings better knowledge of the current issues sess the situation there and analyze with the Vatican, the Vatican think and also be prepared to offer legislative the effectiveness of U.S. policies to- tank of Justice and Peace, and Ambas- solutions to perceived needs. ward Cuba. Upon its return, the delega- sador Lindy Boggs, our former col- Every Member of parliament I spoke tion wrote a report of its findings, league, as Matt has mentioned, were with was pleased with the work being which were widely disseminated extremely informative and extremely done by their interns. Most of them ex- through the media and were made interesting, as was the meeting with pressed the belief that only with such available to Members of Congress as Ambassador George McGovern at the resources would they be able to become well as to personnel in the executive Food and Agriculture Organization, independent of the executive branch branch. and the meeting in Florence with the which now drafts legislation and pre- A follow-up to this initial study mis- U.S. Consul General’s office. sion was conducted in January of 1999. pares the budget. The parliament typi- The entire Italy tour, made up of 64 cally has little time in which to con- Again, the delegation wrote a detailed members, spouses, friends, including 26 sider these drafts, and thus has little report of its findings and shared it former Members, the largest ever, or no input into the finally approved through media and briefings with con- made visits to the Vatican Museum, legislation. gressional leaders and representatives St. Peter’s Basilica, the Coliseum and The relationship of the executive and of the executive branch. legislative branches reflects the reality A final study mission to Cuba is the Forum in Rome, and equally inter- of their respective roles under the gov- scheduled to take place from May 29 esting stops in Assisi and the romantic ernment structure of the past. Little this year to June 3. A delegation led by and beautiful city of Florence. Every- has changed since Macedonia was suc- John Brademas of Indiana, and includ- one enjoyed the entire program. cessful in a peaceful secession from ing Jack Buechner of Missouri, Larry The discussions held with Ambas- Yugoslavia in 1992. At the present LaRocco of Idaho and Fred Grandy of sador McGovern, who incidentally time, membership in the parliament is Iowa will meet with representatives of sends his regards to all of you, as well expected soon to become a full-time oc- the Cuban government, dissidents and as with other officials, including Cath- cupation. It is believed that then there others to assess the current State of erine Bertini, which many of you will be a greater demand from within U.S.-Cuba relations. When they return, know, were extremely helpful in ex- an independent legislature exercising they will write a report of their find- plaining the work of the Food and Ag- its collective will in the enactment of ings and again share their conclusions riculture Organization that many of legislation. with Members of the Congress, the you on both sides of the aisle have par- This transition from the old ways to media, the executive branch and oth- ticipated in and have helped in a badly democratic governments is a basic test ers. Needless to say, it is a very timely needed area. of the success of the newly-emerging mission with all that is going on these Finally, several Members stated their democracies. Similar problems are days in that relationship. desire at the organization to consider a being faced by all of them with varying The association also organizes study Study Group tour to two of our NATO successes. I believe that the intern tours for its Members and their spouses allies early next year, perhaps, Turkey projects that we have initiated are nec- who, at their own expense, have par- and Greece. We have that request essary to help the legislatures transi- ticipated in educational and cultural under consideration. And there have tion to independent and meaningful experiences in a wide variety of places, been other requests now coming in, fill- roles if the voice of the people is to be including Canada, China, Vietnam, ing in on the reports given by our heard, as it must in a democracy. Australia, New Zealand, the former So- President Matt McHugh, Ben Erdreich, The U.S. Association of Former viet Union, Western and Eastern Eu- John Erlenborn and others, concerning Members of Congress is uniquely quali- rope, the Middle East and South Amer- the very, very serious need to help fied to provide these resources for the ica. The most recent study tour took these former Soviet bloc countries in education of the legislators in the place in March of this year when asso- the Baltics, in the Caucasus, in Central emerging democracies. Former Mem- ciation and auxiliary members, Asia, in the Balkans. Their very future bers have experience in State legisla- spouses, and friends visited Italy. depends on the success of their par- tures and the Congress. We cannot ex- As most of my colleagues know, we liaments. These countries have never pect other countries just to adopt our have three former Members of Congress known democracy in their whole his- ways, but we can help them identify who now serve as ambassadors in Italy: tory, and in the last 10 years they have the basic elements of a free representa- Tom Foglietta, our Ambassador to struggled. tive government, sensitive to the tradi- Italy, Lindy Boggs, our Ambassador to Much of the help that we have al- tions of their country. the Holy See, and George McGovern, ready given is really paying off, as Ben In talking to some of these parlia- our Ambassador to the Food and Agri- Erdreich has mentioned, and we hope mentarians and telling them how our culture Organization. that we may be able to arrange some

VerDate 11-MAY-2000 01:06 May 18, 2000 Jkt 079060 PO 00000 Frm 00006 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K17MY7.011 pfrm12 PsN: H17PT1 May 17, 2000 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3181 study tours there in this part of the friends, and raise money for a good Larry LaRocco, Jack Buechner, Lou world in order to perhaps undertake a purpose. The auction has two compo- Frey and others, the members of our ‘‘Peace Corps of Former Members’’ who nents, a silent and live auction of polit- board of directors and our counselors, could give their old sage, badly needed ical memorabilia of significant histor- for providing the excellent guidance advice to many of these parliamentar- ical value, and Jimmy Hayes has and support necessary to make all of ians, many of whom are very young played a major role in collecting this these activities we have described pos- and have had no experience whatsoever memorabilia for us. sible. and really need our help. The spirit of this dinner is most im- In addition, we are assisted by the So these are things we have under portant, because it is noted for its bla- auxiliary of the association which is consideration. We would certainly ap- tant display of bipartisanship, comity now led by Nancy Beuchner, Jack’s preciate any feedback that you might and commitment to public service by wife. It goes without saying, I am sure, have, and I thank the President and each former Member of Congress. It is that none of these programs could be the Speaker. an evening filled with mutual respect effectively run without the staff of our Mr. MCHUGH. Thank you, Gerry. and gratitude for the opportunity to association: Linda Reed, our executive Those of us who put this program to- serve our Nation and its legislative director; Peter Weichlein, our program gether sometimes worry that the an- bodies. director, who has special responsibility nual report will be overly long and dry, One of our colleagues is honored at for the Congressional Study Group on and we apologize if it is. But I think it this dinner for his or her outstanding Germany; Katrinka Stringfield, our ad- is important that get a sense of the work in Congress and after leaving ministrative assistant; Victor Kytasty, wide variety of programs that we run public service. And as our President who runs our Congressional Fellow pro- as an association so that you can par- has just described and reported, our gram in Ukraine; and Walt Raymond, a ticipate in those and so that others good friend and colleague, Lynn Mar- senior advisor for our international will be aware of what we are trying to tin, was honored this year. programs. We are really very grateful do to help. The association made note of Lynn to each and every one of them for the All of this, of course, requires finan- Martin’s achievements and contribu- help that they give us on a day-to-day cial support. And at the present time, tions through her commitment to fair basis. we get our financial support primarily workplace standards capped by her The association also maintains close from three sources. Our membership service as Secretary of Labor. Our first relations with counterpart associations dues, and we thank all of you for pay- Statesmanship Award Dinner in 1998 of former Members of parliament in ing those this year; also from our pro- honored Secretary of Agriculture Dan other countries. And we are very gram grants from foundations and oth- Glickman and the 1999 dinner paid trib- pleased that we have two representa- ers that support the individual pro- ute to the work of our distinguished tives of those other parliament’s grams that we have described; and colleague, Lee Hamilton, who now former Members associations with us from an annual fund-raising dinner heads the Woodrow Wilson Inter- here today. I am pleased to recognize that has become a very important part national Center for Scholars. and welcome Barry Turner, the Presi- of our financial base. Our former President and board dent of the Canadian Association of As many of you know, on February 22 member, Lou Frey, shared his vision Former Members of Parliament, and of this year, we held our Third Annual and possessed the skills to organize the George Ehrnrooth from the Association Statesmanship Award Dinner, at which first dinner, and has acted as the chair- of Former Members of Parliament in our friend and colleague, Lynn Martin, man for each subsequent dinner. He Finland, who are with us today and was honored. We presented Lynn with brings an incredible amount of energy who have been with us on many occa- the Statesmanship Award in recogni- and organizational talent into building sions in the past as well. tion of her service as a Member of Con- a successful event for the association. I also want to mention an invitation gress, as Secretary of Labor, and as a I encourage each member to support we have received from the Association leader in many other community ac- this dinner as you have in the past. As of Former Members of Parliament of tivities. Matt has mentioned, we only have a Australia for our members and their I want to acknowledge and thank at couple of sources of funding for our partners to be guests at a reception this point Lou Frey, our friend and col- programs and this is a major source. being held in Sydney on Tuesday, Sep- league from Florida, who, once again, And besides the dues that we all pay, tember 26, 2000, which is during the 21st chaired the dinner. He had a great deal this provides the funds for our unre- Olympiad, which is being held in Aus- of help, but he led the effort and we are stricted activities, and last year we tralia this year. Unfortunately, we can- grateful to him and we thank him netted about $70,000 for this dinner and not pay your way to go to that, but if again for agreeing to do that next year we hope to be on a good glide path to by chance you are going to the Olym- as well. raise even more. I encourage to you pics in Australia, I know that you I would also like to recognize at this come. We have invited each sitting would enjoy the camaraderie of that point Larry LaRocco from Idaho who, Member of the House and the Senate to reception, which is hosted by the among other things, was one of our en- join us and we enjoy their participa- Former Members of Parliament in Aus- tertaining and talented auctioneers at tion and their presence at the dinner. tralia. If you need more details on the auction which we hold in conjunc- I have never invited anybody to this that, please talk with Linda about tion this annual dinner. dinner that has not come back and told that. Mr. LAROCCO. Thank you, Mr. Presi- me that it is one of the most out- Mr. Speaker, it is now my sad obliga- dent, I appreciate you yielding to me. I standing evenings that they have ever tion to inform the House of those per- will give you a short report on the din- spent in Washington, D.C., to see sons who have served in Congress and ner. As treasurer, one has to assume former Members come together in the have passed away since our last report many roles and being auctioneer hap- spirit of bipartisanship, enjoying each last year. The deceased Members of pened to be one of them. other’s company, regaling each other Congress are the following: Since 1998, the U.S. Association of with stories and smiling and feeling Carl B. Albert of Oklahoma; Former Members of Congress has insti- very proud of their service in this legis- Laurie C. Battle of Alabama; tuted an Annual Statesmanship Award lative body. Gary Brown of Michigan; Dinner and Auction to honor a former Mr. MCHUGH. Thank you very much, George E. Brown, Jr. of California; Member of Congress and raise funds to Larry. Mr. Speaker, in addition to the John H. Chafee of Rhode Island; defray the costs of implementing the financial support which we have re- Carl Thomas Curtis of Nebraska; Congress to Campus program. Each ferred to, the association benefits tre- David W. Dennis of Indiana; year approximately 400 people, includ- mendously from the effort and leader- Bernard J. Dwyer of New Jersey; ing sitting Members of the House and ship of many people. I want to just ex- Floyd K. Haskell of Colorado; Senate, attend this outstanding event. pressly thank the officers of the asso- Henry Helstoski of New Jersey; This dinner is a wonderful oppor- ciation with whom I have had the Byron L. Johnson of Colorado; tunity to honor a colleague, visit with privilege to serve: John Erlenborn, Ed Jones of Tennessee;

VerDate 11-MAY-2000 01:06 May 18, 2000 Jkt 079060 PO 00000 Frm 00007 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K17MY7.012 pfrm12 PsN: H17PT1 H3182 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE May 17, 2000 Robert H. Mollohan of West Virginia; New York. This Bicentennial adventure jump backwards, Henry Morgan raised James C. Murray of Illinois; lasted 52 days at sea and covered 5,920 his hand and said, ‘‘Chaplain, I want to Richard B. Ray of Georgia; miles. ask you a question. Is this when you Hardie Scott of Pennsylvania; Jim has appeared on the NBC first began to believe in God?’’ Abner W. Sibal of Connecticut; ‘‘Today’’ Show, giving exhibitions of And, Chaplain Coughlin, I want you Fred Wampler of Indiana; trick skiing and ski jumping. He also to know something. When you hear Charles Wiggens of California; appeared on the CBS show ‘‘I’ve Got a that story about the chaplain praying, Bob Wilson of California. Secret,’’ and some of us old-timers can it is a Senate joke. The Senate Chap- I would respectfully ask all of you at remember that show. His secret was: lain went out to pray for the Members, this point to stand for just a moment ‘‘Can perform a backwards ski jump.’’ took one look at them and decided to of silence in memory of our colleagues. Not many of us can do that. Maybe pray for America. That is a Senate Thank you very much. some of you have seen the picture of story, Chaplain, not our side. Mr. Speaker, as you know, we now him actually doing it. Jim also pilots You know, I started out in Lake reach what I think is one of the real an ultralight airplane in the Virginia Wobegon country, Minnesota. Garrison highlights of our festivities during the foothills and is currently planning to Keillor country. A town of 700. I was a annual meeting, and that is the presen- sail across the Atlantic alone. So his country pastor, started out where my tation of our Distinguished Service talents are numerous. father and grandfather had started as Award. Jim, why don’t you come up, if you pastors, within 50 miles. And I never We present this each year to a distin- would, please. He asked, does he get to thought I would inherit the title of guished and outstanding public serv- talk. He cannot wait. chaplain. I went to West Point in 1961, ant. The award normally rotates be- Jim, there are two gifts that we in my 20s, and met General Eisenhower tween the two parties, as do the offi- present to you as a symbolic gesture of who came to church one Sunday. Omar cers of the association. Last year, the our great affection and one of them is Bradley, I discussed D-Day with him. award was presented to a Democrat, a plaque. I do not know how many I knew MacArthur. In fact, I was our distinguished former Speaker, Jim plaques you have, but this is a very there when MacArthur gave a famous Wright, who as others have mentioned, nice attractive one. I hope you like it. speech. He gave one here, but he gave a is here with us again today and we are Let me read to you what the plaque more famous one called ‘‘Duty, Honor, deeply grateful that he is able to be says, and I quote: Country’’ at West Point in the early with us, along with his wife, Betty. His parishioners were politicians all. His 1960s. All he had on the podium was a This year, we are being totally non- parish was the gilded hall where the soul of crumpled piece of paper. He said he partisan and we are extremely pleased freedom dwells. To the Reverend James worked on that speech for 40 years, and to be honoring a man who has been a David Ford, Chaplain of the U.S. House of his little piece of paper only said the very special friend and counselor to Representatives, 1979 to 2000. The U.S. Asso- word, ‘‘doorman.’’ He began his speech many of us, former House Chaplain, ciation of Former Members of Congress this way. He said, ‘‘As I left the Wal- thanks you for your dedicated pastoral serv- James David Ford. dorf this morning, the doorman said to Before serving as House chaplain, ices to the People’s House and its men and women. You have provided counsel and com- me, ‘General, where are you going Jim had a very distinguished career fort to our cadets at West Point, our soldiers today?’ And MacArthur replied, ‘I’m with which many of you are quite fa- in Vietnam, and our Representatives in the going to West Point.’ And the doorman miliar. After graduating from Gustavus United States Congress. You will be missed. said, ‘Nice place. Have you been there Adolphus College in Minnesota, receiv- Sail on. Washington, D.C., May 17, 2000. before?’ ’’ ing a Master of Divinity from We also have a scrapbook, Jim, of But over the years, I got to know Augustana Seminary in Illinois, and letters from your many friends here, these men, Schwarzkopf, whom you attending graduate school at Heidel- and colleagues, extending congratula- know as a general, I remember as a berg University in Germany, Jim tions and affection to you for this captain and the meanest player in the served 1958 from 1961 as pastor of the award and, of course, for your great noontime basketball league. Wes Lutheran Church in Ivanhoe, Min- service. And so we want to present this Clark, who just retired as NATO Com- nesota. From 1961 to 1965, he was the to you now as well. mander, was one of my cadets. Barry assistant chaplain at the U.S. Military And now it is my great privilege to McCaffrey, that you are going to hear Academy in West Point, New York. present to you Reverend Jim Ford. at lunch, was one of my cadets. I am And at the tender age of 33, he was ap- Dr. FORD. Thank you very much for particularly proud that Senator JACK pointed by President Johnson as the this award. I am honored and delighted REED, used to serve in the House, now senior chaplain at the Military Acad- to be here. My family are here too. in the Senate, was one of my cadets at emy, where he was appointed three There are some who say that I get West Point, Class of 1971. And pres- times more and served in that position this award as an attempt to keep me ently JOHN SHIMKUS from Illinois who from 1965 until 1979, during which he quiet and not write my book, which I serves in this body was also one of my counseled the corps of cadets not only of course will never do. I follow Martin cadets. at West Point, but also our active duty Luther’s remarks in the 16th century I must tell you, even though it is personnel in Vietnam. when he said, ‘‘There are just too many late, of an important dream that I had On January 17, 1979, Jim was elected books being written.’’ last night. Of course, a chaplain is ecu- chaplain of the House of Representa- I would like to introduce my suc- menical and bipartisan. But I had a tives and was reelected to that post cessor over here Chaplain Coughlin. dream last night that Army was play- every 2 years until his retirement this Stand up, Chaplain. The new chaplain. ing Navy in Philadelphia in football. year. Matt mentioned the things that I And the two teams were going back As you know, he has received count- have done. One of the things you prob- and forth and neither team could score. less awards and honorary degrees in ably will not believe is he said I went And just before the end of the first recognition of his outstanding service off a ski jump backwards. In Min- half, a jet airplane flew over the sta- to this institution. nesota, that is what we did. In Min- dium and let out a sonic boom, which Jim Ford’s devotion, exceptional nesota, we had nine months of winter the Army team took to be the gun end- counseling skills, and marvelous sense and three months of poor sledding, and ing the first half, so the Army team of humor have sustained many of us many of us were ski jumpers. I did go ran off the field. Three plays later, throughout the years. However, in ad- out one day and they bet me I could Navy scored. On a field goal. dition to these qualities, Jim has many not go off. We did single jumps, double I came here after that 18 years going other talents, some rather unusual and jumps, triple jumps. They bet me that through the war as chaplain in 1979. As extraordinary. In the spring of 1976, for I could not go off backwards and I did. you know, I always wore the clerical example, he was captain of a 31-foot I was on the show, ‘‘I’ve Got a Se- collar. Tip O’Neill called me ‘‘Mon- sailboat called the Yankee Doodle, cret,’’ and that was my secret and they signor.’’ He thought I was an Irish which, with two crewmen, sailed from could not guess it. And when it was an- priest from South Boston. He had a Plymouth, England, to West Point, nounced that I had gone off the ski committee. I mentioned their names,

VerDate 11-MAY-2000 02:56 May 18, 2000 Jkt 079060 PO 00000 Frm 00008 Fmt 4634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K17MY7.014 pfrm12 PsN: H17PT1 May 17, 2000 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H3183 George Mahon, the Chairman; John to you stand tall and be proud, because House for 1 minute and to revise and Rhodes, the Republican Leader, and your politics has been a noble vocation. extend his remarks.) Jim Wright, who is with us today on Thank you. Mr. WATTS of Oklahoma. Mr. Speak- the Democratic side. The committee, Mr. MCHUGH. On behalf of all of us, er, America is the most prosperous na- we met in that office right over there. Jim, we thank you again for your tion on earth, yet some seniors here Now I know how important it is to friendship and your warmth and your are forced to choose between putting have an office right off the floor. great service to this institution and to food on their table and the prescription They asked me this question: What us. drugs they need to lead healthy and do you think about religion and poli- We also welcome and wish our best to productive lives. That is just not right. tics? And leaping into my mind was a the new chaplain, who I am sure will Republicans are working to make quote that the Governor of Minnesota serve with equal distinction. sure that is a choice seniors no longer had used in a chapel talk many years Mr. Speaker, the Members of the as- have to make. While I share the goal of before, quoting Martin Luther, and I sociation were honored and proud to President Clinton and Democrats in gave in answer to them, I said, ‘‘As serve in the U.S. Congress and in a way Congress, their proposal may endanger Martin Luther said in 1530, quote: Send we are continuing our service to the existing drug coverage that some sen- your good men into the ministry, but Nation in other ways now, but hope- iors already have. It could give the send your best into politics. Because in fully ones that are equally as effective. Federal Government too heavy a hand the ministry it all depends on the spir- Again, we thank you for letting us in controlling drug benefits and deny it, but in politics you have shades of make this annual report, and this con- seniors the right to select the coverage gray, ambiguities, and you need the cludes our session for today, and we that best fits their respective needs. finest people.’’ Of course, after that again invite all of the Members to the Republicans have a voluntary plan to self-serving comment, they hired me next panel at 10:30 on the China-U.S. make prescription drug coverage af- on the spot. But I also believe it. I grew relations. Thank you very much. fordable and available to America’s up that way, and I believe it. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The seniors. Republicans are working to When I left this place, I wrote a let- Chair again wishes to thank the former protect seniors from runaway drug ter to the Members and I said that my Members of the House for their pres- costs so that their retirement remains feelings about Congress were strong ence here today. Before terminating secure and they have greater peace of when I came, and they are strength- these proceedings, the Chair would like mind. That is a brighter future for ened now that I leave. Religion points to invite those former Members who every single American. to the goals of life, politics tells us how did not respond when the roll was f to get there. We can agree on justice called to give their names to the read- VOTE AGAINST PNTR FOR CHINA and peace, or faith, hope, and love. Call ing clerks for inclusion in the roll. it what you will. But in politics, we The Chair wishes to thank the former (Mr. KUCINICH asked and was given have the give and take of argument Members of Congress for their response permission to address the House for 1 and debate as to the how of achieving here today. Good luck to all of you. minute and to revise and extend his re- our goals. The Chair announces that the House marks.) I remember as a young man in the will reconvene at 10:45 a.m. Mr. KUCINICH. Mr. Speaker, if you 1950s, I went to the Soviet Union and I Accordingly (at 10 o’clock and 26 were told that the Yankees scored six visited the legislature and it was quiet. minutes a.m.) the House continued in runs in a ball game, would you con- And in the 1960s, I went to the East recess. clude the Yankees won? Of course not. German legislature and it was quiet. f You need to know how many runs the Democracy is noisy. I like the noise. I Yankees’ opponent scored in the game b 1045 have been with the noise here for 21 to know if they won, especially if they years. It is a part of the gift of democ- AFTER RECESS played against our Cleveland team. racy. The recess having expired, the House Whether it is baseball or trade, peo- Concluding, in my 21 years here, I was called to order by the Speaker pro ple need to know the score. In this counted up I have been here for about tempore (Mr. BOEHNER) at 10 o’clock case, between the U.S. and China, the 35 joint meetings. And as you know, it and 45 minutes a.m. U.S. has a trade deficit with China of is a joint session when the President f about $70 billion. So we are losing the comes; it is a joint meeting when the game with China. The rising trade def- Heads of State come. And during this ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER icit is unlucky for the United States time, in these 35 speeches that I heard, PRO TEMPORE and our workers. But the bill number I do not think one of them has lived Mr. BOEHNER. The Chair will enter- for PNTR for China is H.R. 4444, and under one constitution for 200 years. tain 15 one-minute requests on each four is a very unlucky number. Ask the We are a young Nation with a very old side this morning. Chinese. And the Chinese workers are and mature Constitution. f unlucky already because some get only I heard Vaclav Havel speak here from three cents an hour pay for their work. Czechoslovakia. Remember, he got up PRINTING OF PROCEEDINGS HAD This bill is bad luck for the United and said ‘‘I am just a playwright. What DURING RECESS States, and it is bad luck for China. do I know? There is no school to be Mr. WATTS of Oklahoma. Mr. Speak- Vote against PNTR. President.’’ And we celebrated democ- er, I ask unanimous consent that the f racy with him. proceedings had during the recess be PRESCRIPTION DRUG COVERAGE Lech Walesa of Poland got up, and he printed in the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD FOR SENIORS said, ‘‘I am an electrician. If the lights and that all Members and former Mem- go out tonight, I can fix them. But now bers who spoke during the recess have (Mr. PITTS asked and was given per- I am leading a country.’’ Or Nelson the privilege of revising and extending mission to address the House for 1 Mandela, 27 years in prison who stood their remarks. minute and to revise and extend his re- up here and spoke about reconciliation. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there marks.) It has been a pride to serve as your objection to the request of the gen- Mr. PITTS. Mr. Speaker, not long chaplain for these many years, for poli- tleman from Oklahoma? ago, news anchor Tom Brokaw wrote a tics is a noble vocation, a noble oppor- There was no objection. book in which he called today’s seniors tunity and calling. I have observed f the greatest generation. After all, it your debates. I have listened to your was today’s seniors who saw this coun- private concerns. I have encouraged GOP WORKING TO MAKE NEEDED try through the Depression and fought you in your service. I have celebrated PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AVAIL- to save the world from Nazi aggression. with you the joys of democracy. ABLE AND AFFORDABLE TO ALL Mr. Speaker, no American and no When you think of your service as (Mr. WATTS of Oklahoma asked and senior, those who have served this former Members in this Congress, I say was given permission to address the country so well for so many years,

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