(Nov – Dec 2017) Strongly Support the Scheme
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APPENDIX G A38 TRO Consultation Comments received during public consultation (Nov – Dec 2017) Strongly Support the scheme. Strongly Agree with the introduction of banned turns at Priory Road, Eastern Road, Pebble Mill Road, Pavenham Drive, Mill pool way etc Strongly support the priority being given to the cycleway at road junctions such as Eastern Road and the splitting of this junction. This is a dramatic improvement Strongly Support all three raised hump crossings. It is a shame that more of these are not proposed to access small residential roads or the Elmhurst Dance school. The Loading restrictions from Lee Bank Middleway to Wellington Road should be 07:00 to 10:00 and 16:00 to 19:00 given how busy this section of road is on the fringes of peak times. Loading vehicles at 1615 or 0730 on a week day blocking one lane would cause traffic chaos which would probably back up across the Lee Bank Junction and the Wellington Road Junction. Removal of the Right turn Ban leaving Elmhurst Dance school will need to be considered carefully as traffic will only be able to leave by waiting for the Northbound lights to turn red and then pushing across the A38 and blocking the Northbound carriageway. It is important that whilst cars are sitting for a long time waiting for a gap to turn right they do not block the cycle path. Clear Markings/ colouring of the cycle path will be needed for this, potentially with keep clear markings. This should have been built already. In favour of the proposal. Safe segregated cycle lanes are a must to encourage more people to leave their cars at home. Less air pollution and traffic congestion. Improvement in people’s heath and less stress on the NHS l. Broadly support the proposals, particularly the pedestrian improvements to the Bristol Road/Priory Road junction. The right turn from Bristol Road into Wellington Road is unnecessary and will lead to rat-running along Wellington Road. This is not cycling infrastructure, and will make Wellington Road less safe for cyclists. Unclear how cyclists are supposed to get between the cycleway and Edgbaston Park Road? I full support the proposal for a segregated cycle way along the A38. I feel this is the first real investment in a proper safe segregated cycle way. More of this is needed is needed in the council is committed to dealing with the horrendous congestion which will continue to worsen in the city I can't wait to see this full segregated cycle infrastructure built between the city centre and the university. It will be a brilliant step forward. There will Mondo into be negative criticism, this is Birmingham. I would however urge the council in the strongest possible sense to hold their nerve and deliver world class infrastructure. What we know from case studies across the globe is that real segregated infrastructure enables mass modal shift. Please don't have bikes stopping at every junction. Cyclists should have an assumed right of way . I look forward to riding the route in the very near future. The proposed route would make it much safer for cyclists in Birmingham. This has my full support. This is a great idea. I would certainly be interested in using the route. More segregated cycle paths please. Overall the plans seem excellent in general and this would make a fantastic edition to Birminghams transport network. Good , please get on and build this new transport infrastructure and help alleviate vehicle congestion along this vital corridor Bristol rd & Priory Rd junction How are you meant to turn onto Priory rd from Bristol rd if you get rid of the turns. This will have a knock on effect increasing the traffic on the adjoining roads whilst also increasing travelling time I think the plans are great and would like to see this actually implemented in a reasonable timescale. This will improve cycling and pedestrian options between the University and Selly Oak, the new dental hospital/school and the city centre. The improvements at Priory Road and Bristol road junction are especially appreciated. I still have concerns about the motor vehicle right turn from Bristol Road onto Wellington Road as this is not going to benefit cyclists and will worsen Wellington Road for cyclists. I am also slightly concerned about some of the shared-use stuff, as that creates conflict between cyclists and pedestrians and people do not know how to behave appropriately in either role. Ideally this should be minimised as much as possible even if that detriments things for motor traffic as pedestrians and cyclists should take priority! Generally I favour the whole project. It is good that segregated cycleways be made available especially on major roads and that they are coherent: e.g. they go from one place to another on a route that people would want to use, they are continuous, they do not take significant deviations and are on ground level where possible. These proposals appear to fulfil most of these requirements- the first time any cycleway in Birmingham will have true segregation (apart from the short shared use sections- a great pity but I imagine unavoidable). The proof will be in the use that's made of the cycleway. Where cycleways exist I will use them unless they're not coherent, speeds are too restricted by need to take account of the safety of shared-use users, or that they are not maintained. If you intend to maintain this route with a good tarmac surface then I guess it will be a success. I would say that the cycle routes on the A38 leading to the southern end of these proposals are woefully inadequate having poor demarcation or shared use with the dreaded (and should be illegal) 'Cyclist Dismount' signs and a plethora of street furniture in the middle of the lane. An object lesson on how not to do bike lanes and something that I view from the main carriageway as I go past on my bike. Very supportive of this proposal and hope to see many more such schemes I an incredibly supportive of the proposals. More high quality infrastructure is what this city needs to shift people out of their cars. What is not clear from consultation is how many times cyclists will have to stop when using the track for lights and crossings. This is key to the success of the scheme as if it gets watered down and cyclists are not given priority it will make it less appealing. Please be strong in the face of any opposition to these proposals and be brave with your decision making. And please start soon - would be incredible to have this open during the summer so people can start using it in the sunshine rather than it opening in the winter and perhaps not being quite so well used. This is not an anti-cyclist issue - I could not agree more that roads need to be safer for cyclists but It looks as though no-one has thought carefully about the impact it will have on traffic congestion. - there needs to be a U-turn near Pavenham Drive, for traffic travelling from Selly Oak to city centre, as traffic will need to travel down to Wellington road to turn left so they can travel down priory road in order to turn right at Bristol road to gain entry to Pavenham drive and Pebble mill road. The congestion at peak times is bad enough as it is, this will only make things worse, especially around Wellington road with the proposed right turn from Bristol Road towards city centre. - The new permit for the right turn into Bristol Road fro Elmhurst School - is this going to be managed by traffic lights?-The area around Priory road and Wellington Road will be very difficult to manage especially during periods of activities at the Cricket ground, Cannon Hill park and Tennis tournaments and also during road closures for marathons. That area will be much more busy and dangerous for the residents in Wellington Road and the schools nearby despite a 20 mile speed limit.- There will be an extra burden when the student accommodation, the new private hospital and health club open up at the Pebble Mill science Park - no parking provisions for the accommodation block?- What is going to be done about the increase in congestion on Pebble Mill Road and Pershore Road turning left towards city centre?- What happens when the Pebble Mill / Pershore Road junction is closed off due to flooding?There needs to be a balance between the safety of cyclists, cycle routes and traffic, it should not be detrimental to the other. I commute into Birmingham every day and would love to cycle from the station to work but currently can't as there is no safe way to do so. This scheme would greatly improve the capacity of Bristol Rd and give me confidence to cycle to work instead of spending loads of money on taxis. As a regular cyclist who often travels into the city centre on the current road network from the S and SW of the city, I both applaud and support these proposals in full. Main objections are with the proposal to add right turns into Wellington Road from Bristol Road and also to prohibit the left and right turns onto Priory Road.No real risk assessment has been put into how all of the side roads of Wellington Road will become a bypass for the Bristol Road which they are not designed for that type of flow of traffic 24 hours a day.The high risk to the residents and the chaos from vehicles which are being diverted to use roads such as Spring Road, Woodview Drive, Charlotte Road etc is a major issue to residents.There are too many properties and parked vehicles on these roads many which include cul de sacs and one way traffic.Spring Road in particular is already congested especially during the morning and afternoon peak where vehicles are