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LOKSABHA DEBATES r s ix t k S« ri« ) v o L x v m (A* § m * i s t# *i, i f7*/Sw*m« si t« BM ra * if** W ftk Si— I— , if7S/ifM (Site) XVIII contains Mas. « r - | i ) LOK 8 ABBA SBOBtAUAT NSW r a u n CONTENT* N 0. 27— VPednstday, Am**' 2), 1978/B M r« 1, I960 (M o) Q olvmni Gontfkuuon (Forty-Fifth Amendment' B iU .........................................1-117 Glauses 4 to 49 «nd 1 ......................................... x-74 Motion to r««» as a m e n d e d ............................................................. 75-II7 Shri Shanii B h u sb an ........................................................................ 75*103*07 Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu . 75 Shri Raj Narain . 75*84 Shri R. Venkataraman ...... 85*88 Shri J. Ramcshwara R a t i ............................................................. 88*90 Shri A. Baki P a j a n o r .............................................................. 90*9$ Shrimati Parvathi K r i s h n a n ................................................... 96-99 Shri Ratn Kishan ........................................................................ 99*102 Papers laid on the T a b l e ........................................................................ 118-127 Message trum Rajya S a b h a ........................................................................ tag Calling Attention u> Matter ofl Jrgeni Public Importance . 129-143 Reported throwing o f some rribals into the SubaranarckJh* river at Jamshedpur on i 6 - 8 - 7 b .............................................................. Shri Laxman Rao M a n k a r............................................................. 129*131 Shri S. D. P a t i l ........................................................................131*136 Shri Yagya D an Sharma ................................................... 136 Shri Morarji Desai ........................................................................ 137 Shri P. K. K o d iy a n ........................................................................ 137*141 Accounts Committee ....... 143 •fourth and Eighty fifth R e p o r ts ......................................... <sc on Absence of Members from sittings of the House > R e p o r t .................................................................................. 144 to Private Members* Bills and Resolutions hird R e p o r t ........................................................................ 145 ..(II) . ; GttHMMS Statement Re: Visit of Minister of External Affairs to Jgpan tod the Republic o f K o r e a .............................................................................. I45"X49 Shri Atal Bihari V a jp a y e e ............................................................ Statutory Resolution re: Disapproval o f Delhi Police Oxdinance, . 1978—Negatived AND . Delhi Police Bill . 150-264 Motion to c o n s i d e r ...................................................................... Shri Shambhu Nath C h a tu rv e d i ........................................ 150-153 Shri Kanwar Lai G u p ta ............................................................ 153*160 Shri Eduardo F a l e i r o ............................................................ 160*165 Shri Ramanand Tiwari .... 165-171 Shri Dinen Bhaliadtarya 171-17- Shri Kishore L a i .......................................................................175*181 Shri Vayajar R a v i ...................................................................... 181-186 Shri Vijav Kumar M a l h o t r a .................................................. 186*191 Sh ri S, G . M u r u g a i y a n ............................................................ 191 -i93 Dr. Ramji S i n g h ...................................................................... 193-196 Chowdhry Balbir S i n g h ............................................................ 196-200 Shri R. L .P. Verma .... ... 200-202 Dr. Baldcv Prakash .... 202-206 Shri S. D. Patil 206-207 Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan . , , 207-274 Clauses 2 to 152 and 1 ............................................................................... Mo lion to pass us iimendrd (House adjourned for want of quorum) Shri S. D. P a t i l .................................................. 2 * Shri Vayalar R a v i ............................................................ Shrimati Parvathi Krishnan .... SABHA DEBATBS LOK SABHA SHRI VAYALAR RAVI (Chiray- inkil): Sir, after your occupying the seat only the bell was rung. In the "Wednesday, Augtfat 23, 1078 /Bhadra 1, case of quorum, it ii only after the 1000 (S<£ka) bell is rung and there is quorum that the Speaker comes and occupies the seat. In this particular case, after The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the you came end occupied the seat the Clock bell was rung, which means that it was a division bell. Yet, immediately [Mr. Speajmr in the Chair] afterwards, the division bell was rung again, which is not the correct pro CONSTITUTION (FORTY-FIFTH cedure. AMENDMENT) BILL-contd. MK SPEAER: There is no point Clause 35 of order. MR. SPEAKER: The House will PROF. P. G. MAVALANKAR no# take up further dause-by-clftuse (Gandhinagar): You came to the consideration of the Bill further to House, and the House w«s duly consti amend the Constitution of India. tuted. Then, you called for the divi Before I put clause 35 to the vote of sion bell. the House, this being a Constitution MR. SPEAKER: The lobbies have Amendment Bill, voting has to be by been cleared. I have already read out division. Let the lobbies be cleared. the relevant clause earlier. I will The lobbies have been cleared. I read the substance of it again so that shall read clause 35. It says? hon. Members may know wh*t it is about. This clause seeks to omit Part X3V-A of the Constitution relating to •‘Part XIVA of the Constitution administrative tribunals and tribunals shall be omitted.” for other matters in place of High Courts. The said Part XTV-A was SHRI RAM DHAN (Lvlganf): On a point of order, Sir. When this inserted by the Constitution (Forty- House assembled today, the quorum second Amendment) Act. bell and division bell rang together. The question is: There should be A separate bell for the division. Many members are out “That Clause 35 Stand part of the side. This confusion has to be Bill." avoided. Th6 Lok Sailha divided: MR. SPEAKER: No, no. SHRI C. M. STEPHEN (IdukM): Sir, I bring to your notice sub-clause THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUSTICE (3) of rule 967A. Anybody who has AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI not voted must stand up in his seat SHANTI BHUSHAN): VxOm th tte and tell you because, otherwise, it can is # separate b$li for division, mem ber* fhay not know. be corrected by anybody. Rule 307A (3) says: H i. SPEAX&: An right. U t the “A member who is not able to db^^opened and let the lobbies east his 'V&e by pressing the button provided for the pttrpoee due t» any 2371 i,.S.—l. 3 Con stitution AUGUST 28, 1078 (45tH Amdt.) Bill [Shri C Ji. Stephen] wrong button, he may be allowed reason considered sufficient by the to correct his mistake, provided he Speaker, may, with tbe permission brings it to the notice of the Spea of the Speaker, have his vote re ker before the result of the Division corded verbally by stating whether is announced.” he is in favour of or against the motion, before the result of the There are two different things. Sub Division is announced." rule (4) relates to where a member has voted by mistake; sub-rule ( ) (Interruptions) 3 relates to where he has not been able SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola): to cast his vote. In the case of a I want you to announce the result member who has not been able to now. We do not want any mischief cast his vote, he must stand up and to be done __ (Interruptions) tell the Speaker so that the Speaker may know. So far as a member who MR. SPEAKER: No, no; there is has voted by mistake is concerned, nothing of the sort. he can give a correcting slip. That is SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: As soon «s all the difference. the result appears on the indicator board, the result of the division is Now, the members who say that announced by the Speaker and it can they have not been able to cast their be further corrected subject to sub vote may please stand up. I am counting on both sides. I shall call clause (3) of rule 367A. the Members who have not been able THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN to cast their votes one by one. Mr. TARY AFFAIRS AND LABOUR Patil, you have not been able to cast (SHRI RAVINDRA VARMA): Sir, I your vote. What is your Number? would also like to draw your atten tion to sub-clause (4) of rule 887A. SHRI S. D. PATIL: My number is It says: 27. "If a member finds that he has MR. SPEAKER: Please check up. voted by mistake by pressing the Let us go orderly. Mr. Chand Ram wrong button, he may be allowed what is your number? to correct his mistake, provided he brings it to the notice of the Speaker SHRI CHAND RAM; My Number before the result of the division is is 19 . announced.’* (Interruptions) MR SPEAKER: please check up. Shri Hukamdeo Narain Yadav, w h a t MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the is your number? Opposition has read out sub-rule (3) of Rule 367A. It says: SHRI HUKAMDEO NARAIN “A member who is not able to YADAV; My number is 48. cast his vote by pressing the button MR. SPEAKER: Please check up. provided for the purpose due to any What is your Number? reason considered sufficient by the “Speaker, may, with the permission SHRI SHRIKRISHNA SINGH: My of the Speaker, have his vote re number is 081. corded verbally by stating whether he is in favour of or against the MR. SPEAKER: Now you will motion, before the result of the give your numbers on* by one. The Division is announced.** division numbers given by the M«m- Then, sub-rule (4) says: b en are: 87, 59, 70, 88, 74, 127, l » , 148, 170, 178, M l, 805, 850, 861, W, "If a mexriber finds that he has 889, 41, 418, 488, 580, 4M, 512. I Will voted by mistake by pressing the mow ask you to stand up one by s Con stitution BHADRA 1, 1900 (SAKA) (48th Amdt.) Bill 6 and say whether you are for "Ayes? SHRI BL P. KADAM; “Noes”. or "Noes**. SHRI S. D. PATIL; MAyes’\ SHRI BALASAHIB VIKHE PATIL rose.