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David Keil Update EP 20 I David Keil Transcribed with love, by Arlene Patnubay OPENING: Hey everyone, its Peg Muqueen with your latest episode of the Ashtanga Dispatch podcast. But before we begin, I’m excited to share a little experiment we are trying. Many of you have asked, “How you can support the show beyond our iTunes ratings and review?”…which have been amazing and WE LOVE THEM! But right about now, most podcasts seek advertisers as a way to keep the show going BUT we really don’t want to run ads. AND so in the efforts to keep this podcast ad FREE AND do some fun new stuff, we are inviting everyone who would like to chip in and help to support the show over at patrion.com/ashtangadispatch. So for the price of a cup of tea a month, you can help us make more shows, cover some of our overhead, and invest in new equipment PLUS there will be some fun new surprises in it for you. There are varying levels of sponsorship and each will come as something unique as a special thank you. You know from free issues of the magazine including the upcoming 3rd one to a special pratrion only podcast with some behind the scenes stuff and opportunities to hang out with me and our guests. WE ARE REALLY COMMITTED INTO KEEPING THIS PODCAST AD FREE but ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE IT REMAINS SUSTAINABLE AND gets better with time. So, if you are inclined. PLEASE check out http://www.patrion.com/ashtangadispatch and support the show. Now, let’s get on with today’s episode.NUMBER 20, Can you believe that? Needless to say, this one is pretty special. But not just because of the number, but more so because of who I am welcoming back to the podcast, DAVID KEIL. David was here in Montana, where we led a 5-day retreat together, which was a huge honor and treat for me! I mean, David has been my teacher, my mentor, and my friend for A VERY long time. And maybe it’s because we have these levels of relationship, that this episode turned into less of an interview and more like a real conversation between the two of us. Exactly the way we talk when no one is recording. So get ready to be a fly on the wall, as David and I cover the gamut of topics including how we both have changed in the ways we practice and how we look at practice. David teases and calls himself, lazy and me, Hippie Dippy. But that laziness is actually efficiency of him and my nutty crunchy granola approach these days is inviting more ease. In other words, we are both growing and we are both changing. Anyway, neither of us hold back, so grab a cup of tea and hang out with us for the next hour. And while most if it is pretty light and even kind of hilarious at times, we did get pretty serious towards the end. We ended up on the subject of yoga and injuries and the significant inquires David is posing for his new project. I’m not going to say much more because I want you to listen. In fact, Let’s start now. Here’s David Keil. David Keil: ALRIGHTYYYYYY!! (laughter) It was a good week Peg Mulqueen: It was a REALLY good week!!! D: Ok, Listen IT WAS A RRRRREEEEEAAAALLLLLY GOOOD WEEK P: See that's the drama I'm kinda looking for. (both laugh). What was your favorite part? D: Um.... Does Yellowstone count? P: Totally! D: Yeah, Yellowstone. I know you want to talk the yoga stuff. P: No, I know, I actually, no I kinda of .... The Yellowstone thing was cool right?! D: It was fun. It was AMAZING! P: And it was beautiful. D: It was my first time and it was like... i mean obviously you dragged me through it all but pretty quickly but I’m that kind of tortoise anyway. P: Well, you got out of the car pretty adventurous. D: Why wouldn’t I get out? People just drive through and don’t get out of the car? P: Yeah, I mean when we say we did a drive through, I think we need to clarify that we only had a day, we didn’t even have a full day and we did drive my scenic drive thru. But we got out plenty and we saw a lot. We saw a lot. D: Absolutely... and it was awesome! P: I feel like moving out here changed my perspective on a lot of things. That drive through to Yellowstone, being outside like that and experience nature in that way, it’s – that’s yoga to me. D: Yeah ... I’m with you. I mean extensive views like that certainly give a sense of sort of...well extensiveness. P: Yeah, of how small other things can be. How you get out there and all of the sudden all that matters is...this amazing beautiful view in front of us. If there is nothing else that matters … time stands still. D: Yeah, its super attractive, meaning it, you know, it’s hard not to get absorbed in it - just because it is so beautiful. P: And you’re such a small part of it. D: And dramatic P: And dramatic AND you’re not separate D: No. You are not separate P: You are not separate. You’re out there and...I really do feel that oneness when I’m outside like that. I didn’t get that same kind of feeling before I moved into a place that made it almost easy, right? D: Right. I mean you could even like image even the Tibetans up in the Himalayas and just having this never ending expansive kind of view - must just open your mind up just as well. It’s kind of like one deflecting the other or something. So...yeah. P: Part of it makes me curious that because I think I should have been looking for – I know I said should and shouldn’t say should but – I should have been looking for that before it become so easy to find it. Do you know what I mean? Like, I’m lazy. There’s no enlightenment here. I can walk outside my door and now it’s there and I don’t have to look for it, I don’t have to find it and its right at my finger tips D: Take advantage of it. (laughing) P: And that’s why I am and that’s why of course I invite you out here to do this with me and to bring people out so that they can experience it, so that they don’t have to move OR maybe they do but that you get that experience so that maybe you could go home and find it wherever you are. D: I mean certainly environment effects us. I do not know how long the impact lasts for but, I mean, if you get a little taste of it you can bring it home. That’s a good thing. It’ll It surprises you, It’s in a way surprising to me how just, phew - HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS OUT HERE. P: Yesterday’s hike, I was exhausted. To clarify, we had 5 FULL DAYS MYSORE, some workshops, hiking, talks … D: Yellowstone … P: Yellowstone. Morning, night, we were going going going … Of coures, by Friday, I was tired. David: I was tired too. P: Yeah, I was a lot tire and we got out there to Spanish Creek and I haven’t told you, but I was like “I think we need to make this short, like you know….” D: I was expecting it to be short, it’s true P: But then we started to walk with everyone and when we started to go down the path and I don’t know, we ….I mean there was no, there was no destina, I hate to say like that, there was no destination. D: Right we were just going for a walk. P: I’d never been down that path. D: Well…. P: Isn’t that funny (giggles) I had no idea what was down there ... we were kind of just walking and as we started to walk, I just got more energy. It started to become energizing instead of exhausting. D: Yeah, I was feeling tired for a while and then I think when we like hit these little goals, “Oh, there’s a fork up here. Ok, so let’s walk up to the fork and then see what happens. And then from the fork, we can either go to the falls or not go to the falls, and then it’s like … OK, well let’s just go to the falls. We are already this far out. And it’s interesting because you know the expectation was that it was going to be short then you find yourself fighting that. Or I did! P: I did too! D: And then just letting go and how these, these little things that rope us in and ties in and it’s not that difference in practice … P: I was just going to say that!!! (laughing) D: When your practicing you’re like “Well, I don’t know if I can do anything, well ok let me just do sun salutations and see what happens” You do sun salutations, You can certainly do the first 6 fundamental postures you know, then you do those, and the next thing you know, you’re to waterfall.
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