Jilid IV lthnin No. 14 13hb November, 1967

PERBAHATHAN PARLIMEN DEWAN RA'AYAT YANG .KEDUA

PENGGAL KEEMPAT

PENYATA RASMI

KANDONGAN-NYA

PEMASHHORAN2 OLER TUAN YANG DI-PERTUA: Perutusan daripada Dewan Negara [Ruangan 2565] Memperkenankan Rang Undang2 [Ruangan 2569] Kematian Allah Yarham Yang Berhormat Tuan Haji Ahmad bin Abdullah [Ruangan 2570] Kebenaran Chuti Bagi Tuan Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib [Ruangan 2570]

.JAWAPAN2 MULU'I' ~AGI PERTANYAAN2 [Ruangan 2571] LEAVE FOR ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE UNDER STANDING ORDER 18 (Appointment of Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib as Ambassador) [Ruangan 2613] BILLS PRESENTED [Ruangan 2614]' MOTIONS: The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) (Amendment) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2616] The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2617] The Customs Duties (Amendment) (No. 13) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2618] The Customs Duties (Sabah) (Amendment) (No. 13) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2619] The Sarawak Customs Ordinance (Cap. 26): The Customs (Import and Export) Duties (Amendment) (No. 13) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2620]

Dl-CHETAJC Dl-JABATAN CHETAJC ICERAJAAN OLEH THOR BENO CHONG, A.M.N., PENCHETAJC KERAJAAN KUALA LUMPUR 1968 KANDONGAN-NY A-(sambongan)

MOTIONs-(cont.) The Excise Duties (Amendment) (No. 3) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2620) The Excise Ordinance, Sabab No. 18 of 1959: The Excise Duties (Amendment) (No. 2) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2621) The Excise Ordinance, Sarawak (Cap. 27): The Excise Duties (Amendment) (No. 2) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2622) The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) (Amendment) (No. 3) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2623) The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) (Extension to Penang) (Amendment) Order, 1967 [Ruangan,,2624) The Customs Duties (Amendment) (No. 714) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2629) The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) (Amendment) (No. 4) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2631) The Customs (M81aysian Common Tariffs) (Extension to Penang) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2635) The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) (Amendment) (No. 5) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2637) The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) (Extension to Penang) (Amendment) (No. 3) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2638) The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) (Extension to Penang) (Amendment) (No. 4) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2639) The Customs Dudes (Penang) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2640) The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) (Amendment) (No. 6) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2641) The Customs (Malaysian Common Tarifts) (Extension to Penang) (Amendment) (No. 5) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2642) The Customs (Malaysian Common Taritfs) (Amendment) (No. 7) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2643) The Customs (Malaysian Common Tarifts) (Amendment) (No. 8) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2644) The Customs (Malaysian Common Tarifts) (Extension to Penang) (Amendment) (No. 6) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2645) The Customs Ordinance, 1952: The (Imports) (Amendment) (No. 3) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2646) The Sabah Customs Ordinance (Cap. 33): The Surtax (Imports) (Amendment) (No. 3) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2647) The Sarawak Customs Ordinance (Cap. 26): The Surtax (Imports) (Amendment) (No. 3) Order, 1967 [Ruangan 2647)

ACT KUMPULAN WANG PEMBANGUNAN, 1966-PENYATA SEMENTARA KEPALA2 PERBELANJAAN YANG DI­ CHADANGKAN BAGI TAHUN 1968 MENGIKUT SEKSHEN­ KECHIL (5) SEKSHEN 4 [Ruangan 2648)

MENAREK BALEK USUL (SPORTS POOL (M) SENDIRIAN BERHAD) [Ruangan 2649)

USUL: The Government Rubber Trading Trust Account [Ruangan 2650) PENANGGOHAN (USUL) [Ruangan 2676]

UCHAPAN2 PENANGGOHAN: (I) Increasing the Number of Taxis in Kuala Lumpur [Ruangan 2677) (II) Low-Cost Flats in Jalan Loke Yew [Ruangan 2679) JAWAPAN2 BERTULIS KAPADA PERTANYAAN2 {Ruangan 26871 /'·.

MALAYSIA DEWAN RA'AYAT YANG KEDUA PENGGAL YANG KEEMPAT Penyata Rasmi

Hari Ithnin, 13hb November, 1967

Persidangan bermula pada pukul 10.00 pagi

YANG HADHIR: Yang Berhormat Tuan Yang di-Pertua. DATO' CHIK MOHAMED YUSUF BIN SHEIKH ABDUL RAHMAN, S.P.M.P .• J.P., Dato' Bendahara, Perak. Perdana Menteri dan Menteri Hal Ehwal Luar Negeri, Y.T.M. TUNKU ABDUL RAHMAN PlrrRA AL·HAJ, K.O.M. (Kuala Kedah). Timbalan Perdana Menteri, Menteri Pertahanan. Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri dan Menteri Pembangunan Negara dan Luar Bandar, TUN HAJI ABDUL RAZAK. BIN DATO' HUSSAIN, S.M.N. (Pekan). Menteri Kewangan. TUN TAN SIEW SIN, s.s.M., J.P. (Melaka Tengah). Menteri Kerja Raya, Pos dan Talikom, TUN v. T. SAMBANTHAN, S.S.M., P.M.N. (Sungai Siput). Menteri Pengangkutan, TAN SRI HAJI SARDON BIN HAJI JuBIR, P.M.N. (Pontian Utara). Menteri Pelajaran, TuAN MOHAMED KHIR JOHAR! (Kedah Tengah). Menteri Kesihatan, TuAN BAHAMAN BIN SAMSUDIN (Kuala Pilah). Menteri Perdagangan dan Perusahaan. DR LIM SWEE AUN, J.P. (Larut Selatan). Menteri Kebajikan 'Am, TUAN HAJI ABDUL HAMID KHAN BIN HAJI SAKHAWAT Au KHAN. J.M.N., J.P. (Batang Padang). Menteri Kerajaan Tempatan dan Perumahan, TUAN KHAW KAI·BOH, P.J.K. (Ulu Selangor). Menteri Hal Ehwal Sarawak. TAN SRI TEMENGGONG JUGAH ANAK BARIENG, P.M.N., P.D.K. (Sarawak). Menteri Buroh, TUAN v. MANICKAVASAGAM, J.M.N., P.J.K. (Kelang). Menteri Penerangan dan Penyiaran dan Menteri Kebudayaan. Belia dan Sokan, TUAN SENU BIN ABDUL RAHMAN (Kubang Pasu Barat). Menteri Hal Ehwal Tanah dan Galian dan Menteri Ke'adilan. DATO' HAJI ABDUL· RAHMAN BIN y A'KUB (Sarawak). Menteri Muda Kebudayaan, Belia dan Sokan, ENGKU MUHSEIN BIN ABDUL KADIR, J.M.N., S.M.T., P.J.K. (Trengganu Tengah). ,....,_ 2559 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2560

Yang Berhormat Menteri Muda Kewangan, DR NG KAM PoH, J.P. (Teluk Anson). Menteri Muda Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri, TUAN HAMZAH BIN DATO' ABU 'SAMAH (Raub). Setia-usaha Parlimen kapada Menteri Kesihatan, TUAN IBRAHIM BIN ABDUL RAHMAN, J.M.N. (Seberang Tengah). Setia-usaha Parlimen kapada Menteri Buroh, TUAN LEE SAN CHOON, K.M.N. (Segamat Selatan). Setia-usaha Parlimen kapada Menteri Kewangan, TUAN ALI BIN HAJI AHMAD (Pontian Selatan). Setia-usaha Parlimen kapada Timbalan Perdana Menteri, /' TUAN CHEN WING SUM (Damansara). TUAN HAJI ABDUL GHANI BIN ISHAK, A.M.N. (Melaka Utara). TUAN ABDUL KARIM BIN ABU, A.M.N. (Melaka Selatan). WAN ABDUL KADIR BIN ISMAIL, P.P.T. (Kuala Trengganu Utara). TUAN HAJI ABDUL RASHID BIN HAJI JAIS (Sabah). TUAN ABDUL RAZAK BIN HAJI HussIN (Lipis). Y.A.M. TUNKU ABDULLAH IBNI AL-MARHUM TUANKU ABDUL RAHMAN, P.P.T. (Rawang). TUAN HAJI ABDULLAH BIN HAJI MOHD. SALLEH, A.M.N., S.M.J., P.I.S. (Segamat Utara). TUAN AHMAD BIN ARSHAD, A.M.N. (Muar Utara). TUAN HAJI AHMAD BIN SA'AID, J.P. (Seberang Utara). PUAN AJIBAH BINTI ABOL (Sarawak). O.K.K. DATU ALIUDDIN BIN DATU HARUN, P.D.K. (Sabah). DR AWANG BIN HASSAN, S.M.J. (Muar Selatan). TUAN AZIZ BIN ISHAK (Muar Dalam). PENGARAH BANYANG ANAK JANTING, P.B.S. (Sarawak). TUAN CHAN CHONG WEN, A.M.N. (Kluang Selatan). TUAN CHAN SEONG y OON (Setapak). TUAN CHAN SIANG SUN, P.J.K. (Bentong). TUAN CHEW BIOW CHuON, J.P. (Broas). TUAN CHIA CHIN SHIN, A.B.S. (Sarawak). TUAN FRANCIS CHIA NYUK TONG (Sabah). TuAN CHIN FOON (Ulu Kinta). TUAN D. A. DAGO ANAK RANDAN alias DAGOK ANAK RANDEN, A.M.N. (Sarawak). TuAN c. v. DEVAN NAIR (Bungsar). TUAN EDWIN ANAK TANGKUN (Sarawak). TUAN SYED ESA BIN ALWEE, J.M.N., S.M.J., P.I.S. (Batu Pahat Dalam). DATIN HAJJAH FATIMAH BINTI HAJI ABDUL MAJID (Johor Bahru Timor). TAN SRI FATIMAH BINTI HAJI HASHIM, P.M.N. (Jitra-Padang Terap). TuAN s. FAZUL RAHMAN, A.D.K. (Sabah). DATU GANIE GILONG, P.D.K., J.P. (Sabah). 2561 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2562

Yang Berhormat TUAN GANING BIN JANGKAT (Sabah). TuAN GEH CHONG KEAT, K.M.N. (Pulau Pinang Utara). TUAN HAJI HAMZAH BIN ALANG, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Kapar). TUAN HANAFI BIN MOHD. YUNUS, A.M.N., J.P. (Kulim Utara). TUAN HANAFIAH BIN HUSSAIN, A.M.N. (Jerai). TUAN HARUN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N., J.P. (Baling). wAN HASSAN BIN WAN DAUD (Tumpat). TUAN STANLEY Ho NGUN Kmu, A.D.K. (Sabah). DATO' HAJI HUSSEIN BIN MOHD. NOORDIN, D.P.M.P., A.M.N., P.J.K. (Parit). TUAN HUSSEIN BIN SuLAIMAN (Ulu Kelantan). TUAN HAJI HUSSAIN RAHIMI BIN F{AJI SAMAN, S.M.K., J.P. (Kota Bharu Hulu). TUAN IKHWAN ZAINI, K.M.N. (Sarawak). TUN DR ISMAIL BIN DATO' HAJI ABDUL RAHMAN, s.s.M., P.M.N. (Johor Timor). TUAN ISMAIL BIN IDRIS (Pulau Pinang Selatan). TAN SRI SYED JA'AFAR BIN HASAN ALBAR, P.M.N. (Johor Tenggara). PENGHULU JINGGUT ANAK ATTAN, K.M.N., Q.M.c., A.B.S. (Sarawak). TUAN KADAM ANAK KIAi (Sarawak). TUAN KAM WOON WAH, J.P. (Sitiawan). TuAN KHOO PENG LOONG (Sarawak). TUAN LEE SECK FUN, K.M.N. (Tanjong Malim). DR LIM CHONG Eu (Tanjong). TUAN LIM KEAN SIEW (Dato Kramat). TUAN LIM PEE HUNG, P.J.K. (Alor Star). DR MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMAD (Kota Star Selatan). TUAN T. MAHIMA SINGH, J.M.N., J.P. (Port Dickson). DATO' DR HAJI MEGAT KHAS, D.P.M.P., J.P., P.J.K. (Kuala Kangsar). DATO' MOHAMED ASRI BIN HAJI MUDA, S.P.M.K. (Pasir Puteh ). TUAN MOHD. DAUD BIN ABDUL SAMAD (Besut). TUAN MOHAMED IDRIS BIN MATSIL, J.M.N., P.J.K., J.P. (Jelebu-J empol). TUAN MoHD. TAHm BIN ABDUL MAJID, s.M.s.• P.J.K. (Kuala Langat). TUAN HAJI MOHAMED YusoF BIN MAHMUD, A.M.N. (Temerloh). TUAN MOHD. ZAHIR BIN HAJI ISMAIL, J.M.N. (Sungai Patani). wAN MOKHTAR BIN AHMAD (Kemaman). TUAN HAJI MoKHTAR BIN HAJI ISMAIL (Perlis Selatan). TUAN MUHAMMAD F AKHRUDDIN BIN HAJI ABDULLAH (Pasir Mas Hilir). TUAN HAJI MUHAMMAD Su'AUT BIN HAJI MuHD. TAHIR, A.B.s. (Sarawak).

------·------2563 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2564 Yang Berhormat DATO' HAJI MUSTAPHA BIN HAJI ABDUL JABAR, D.P.M.s., A.M.N., J.P. (Sabak Bemam). TUAN MUSTAPHA BIN AHMAD (Tanah Merah). TUAN NG FAH YAM (Batu Gajah). TUAN ONG KEB HUI (Sarawak). .. TUAN HAJI OTHMAN BIN ABDULLAH (Hilir Perak)• TUAN OrHMAN BIN ABDULLAH, A.M.N. (Perlis Utara). TUAN QuEK KAI DoNG, J.P. (Seremban Timor). TUAN HAJI RAHMAT BIN HAJI DAUD, A.M.N. (Johor Bahru Barat). TUAN RAMLI BIN OMAR (Krian Darat). TUAN HAJI REDZA. BIN HAJI MOHD. SAID, P.J.K., J.P. (Rembau-Tampin). RAJA ROME BIN RAJA MA'AMOR, PJ.K., J.P. (Kuala Selangor). TUAN SANDOM AN"'1( NYUAK (Sarawak). TUAN SEAH TENG NGIAB, S.MJ., P.I.s. (Muar Pantai). .. DATO' s. P. SEENIVASAGAM, D.P.M.P., P.M.P., J.P. (Menglembu). TUAN SIM BOON LIANG, A.B.S. (Sarawak). TUAN Smw LOONG HIN, P.J.K. (Seremban Barat). TUAN SENAWI BIN ISMAIL, P.J.K. (Seberang Selatan). TUAN SNG CHIN Joo (Sarawak). .. TUAN SoH AH TECK (Batu Pahat) . TUAN SULEIMAN BIN ALI (Dungun). TUAN SULEIMAN BIN HAJI T AIB (Krian Laut). TUAN TAJUDIN BIN ALI, P.J.K. (Larut Utara). TUAN TAI KUAN YANG, A.M.N. (Kulim Bandar Bharu). DR TAN CHEE KHOON (Batu). TUAN TAN TOH HONG (Bukit Bintang). TUAN TAN TSAK Yu (Sarawak). TUAN TIAH ENG BEE (Kluang Utara). TUAN TOH THEAM HOCK (Kampar). TENGKU ZAID BIN TENGKU AHMAD (Pasir Mas Hulu). TUAN HAJI ZAKARIA BIN HAJI MOHD. TAIB, P.J.K. (Langat).

YANG TIADA HADHIR: Yang Berhormat Menteri Pertanian dan Sharikat Kerjasama, TUAN HAJI MOHAMED GHAZALI BIN HAJI JAWI (Ulu Perak). Menteri Muda Ta' Berjabatan, TUAN HAJI ABDUL KHALID BIN AwANG OsMAN (Kota Star Utara). Menteri Muda Pembangunan Negara dan Luar Bandar, TUAN SULAIMAN BIN BULON, P.J.K. (Bagan Datoh). Menteri Muda Pelajaran, TUAN LEE SIOK YEW, A.M.N., P.J.K. (Sepang). .. TUAN ABDUL RAHMAN BIN HAn TALm, P.J.K. (Kuantan)• WAN ABDUL RAHMAN BIN DATO' TUANKU BUJANG, A.B.S. " (Sarawak). 2565 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2566 Yang Berhormat DATO' ABDULLAH BIN ABDULRAHMAN, s.M.T., Dato' Bijaya di-Raja (Kuala Trengganu Selatan). .. TuAN HAJJ ABU BAKAR BIN HAMzAH. J.P. (Bachok)• TUAN JoNATHAN BANGAU ANAK RENANG, A.B.S. (Sarawak). TUAN THOMAS KANA, K.M.N. (Sarawak). 1TuAN EDMUND LANGGU ANAK SAGA (Sarawak). TUAN AMADEUS MATHEW LEONG, A.D.K., J.P. (Sabah). DATO' LING BENG Srnw. P.N.B.S. (Sarawak). TUAN PETER Lo Su YIN (Sabah). TuAN C. JOHN ONDu MAJAKIL (Sabah). TuAN MOHD. ARIF SALLEH. A.D.K. (Sabah). TuAN JOSEPH DAVID MANJAJI (Sabah). ORANG TUA MOHAMMAD DARA BIN LANGPAD (Sabah). TUN DATO' MUSTAPHA BIN DATU HARUN, S.M.N., P.D.K. (Sabah). TAN SRI NIK AHMAD KAMIL, D.K., S.P.M.K., S.J.M.K .• P.M.N., P.Y.G.P., Dato' Sri Setia Raja (Kota Bharu Hilir). TUAN D. R. SEENIVASAGAM (lpoh). PENGIRAN TAHIR PETRA (Sabah). TuAN TAMA WENG TINGGANG WAN (Sarawak). ,, TUAN TAN CHENG BEE, A.M.N., J.P. (Bagan). TuAN TAN KEE GAK (Bandar Melaka). TUAN YEH PAO TzE, A.M.N. (Sabah). TUAN STEPHEN YONG KUET TzE (Sarawak).

DO'A Setia-usaha Majlis membacha Per­ utusan. (Tuan Yang di-Pertua mempengerusikan "Mr Speaker, MeshUt:uat) The Senate has agreed to the follow­ ing Bills: PEMASHHORAN2 OLEH 1. to amend and re-enact the law TUAN YANG DI-PERTUA relating to the control of rent and security of tenure of padi PERUTUSAN DARIPADA DEWAN cultivators and matters incidental NEGARA thereto; Tuan Yang di-Pertea: Ahli2 Yang 2. to amend the Minor Offences Berhormat, saya hendak memaalum­ Ordinances of the States of Malaya, Sabah and Sarawak~ kan ia-itu saya telah menerima satu 3. to amend the Criminal Procedure perutusan yang bertarikh 30hb Ogos, Code; 1967. daripada Yang di-Pertua Dewan Negara berkenaan dengan perkara2 4. to amend the Penal Code; yang tertentu yang telah di-hantar oleh 5. to consolidate and amend the law Majlis ini minta di-persetujukan oleh relating to the organisations, dis­ cipline, powers and duties of the Dewan Negara. Sekarang, saya minta Royal Malaysia. Police and to Setia-usaha Majlis membachakan per­ provide for matters incidental utusan itu kapada Majlis ini. thereto;

------2567 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2568 6. to apply sums out of the Conso­ 24. to amend the Port Workers (Regu­ lidated Fund for additional lation of Employment) Act, 1965; expenditure for the service of the 25. to provide for the control of year 1967 and to appropriate such factories with respect to matters sums for certain purposes; relating to the safety, health and 7. to relieve the Majlis Amanah welfare of persons therein and to Ra'ayat of the liability of repay­ consolidate and amend the law ing certain principal sums and relating to the registration and charges thereon; inspection of machinery and for 8. to amend the Finance Act, 1965; matters connected therewith~ 9. to provide for the registration of 26. to amend the Trade Unions Act, accountants and matters con­ 1965~ nected therewith; 27. to make better provisions in the law relating to Commonwealth 10. to amend the laws relating to Fugitive Criminals and for other stamp duty; matters connected therewith; 11. to amend and consolidate the law 28. to consolidate and amend the law relating to Customs in the Fede­ of bankruptcy; ration;, 29. to provide for the establishment 12. to amend the Excise Ordinance of the Malaysian Combined Cadet of Sarawak; Force and for matters incidental 13. to provide for the registration of thereto; Architects and for purposes con­ 30. to make provision for the inter­ nected therewith; pretation of written laws of the 14. to provide for the registration of States of West Malaysia, for Engineers and for purposes con­ shortening the language used nected therewith; therein, for matters generally re­ 15. to provide for the registration of lating thereto and for other like Surveyors and for purposes con­ purposes; nected therewith~ 31. to make provision for imposing a 16. to amend the Malayan Railway uniform income tax throughout Provident Fund Ordinance, 1952; Malaysia in place of the taxes imposed by the Income Tax 17. to amend the Price Control Ordi­ Ordinance, 1956, of Sabah, the nance, 1946; Inland Revenue Ordinance, 1960 18. to make provisions as to the rights of Sarawak and the Income Tax of the Government in the legisla­ Ordinance, 1947, of West Malay­ tion relating to patents and for sia; for specifying rates and matters incidental thereto; allowances in connection with the 19. to amend the Municipal Ordi­ tax; for ascertaining chargeable income; for assessing, collecting nance (Extended Application) -, Ofdinance, 1948~ and recovering the- tax; for the administrative care and manage­ 20. to amend the Municipal Ordi­ ment of the tax; aild for incidental nance; and related purposes; 21. to amend the Municipal Act, 32. to make provision for the imposi­ 1963; tion, collection and recovery of 22. to amend the Town Boards Enact­ supplementary income tax and for ments of the Federated Malay incidental and related matters; States, J ohore and Trengganu 33. to impose a tax upon income from and the Municipal Enactment of the winning of petroleum in Kelantan; Malaysia, to provide for the 23. to amend the Town Boards Enact­ assessment and collection thereof ment of the Federated Malay and for purposes connected there­ States; with; <., 2569 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2570 34. to amend the Industrial Relations 19. Municipal Ordinance (Extended Act, 1967; Application) (Amendment) Act, 'without amendment. 1967. 20. Interpretation (States of West (Sgd.) DATO' HAJI ABDUL RAHMAN Mafaysia) Act, 1967. BIN MOHD. Y ASSIN, 21. Malayan Railway Provident Fund President" (Amendment) Act, 1967. MEMPERKENANKAN RANG 22. Finance (Amendment) Act, 1967. UNDANG2 23. Stamp (Amendment) Act, 1967, Tuan Yang di-Pertua: Ahli2 Yang 24. Municipal (Amendment) (No. 2) Berhormat, saya hendak memaalumkan Act, 1967. kapada Majlis ini bahawa Duli Yang 25. Customs Act, 1967. Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda 26. Accountants Act, 1967. Yang di-Pertuan Agong telah memper­ 2 27. Factories and Machinery Act, kenankan Rang Undang yang telah 1967. di-luluskan oleh Parlimen baharu2 ini saperti berikut: 28. Architects Act, 1967. 1. Criminal Procedure Code (Amend­ 29. Registration of Engineers Act, ment) (No. 2) Act, 1967. 1967. 2. Penal Codes (Amendment) Act, 30. Registration of Surveyors Act, 1967. 1967. 3. Minor Offences (Malaysia) 31. Malaysian Combined Cadet Force, (Amendment) Act, 1967. Act, 1967. 4. Police Act, 1967. 32. Town Boards (Amendment) Act, 1967. 5. Supplementary Supply (1967) Act, 1967. 33. Town Boards (Amendment) (No. 2) Act, 1967. 6. Padi Cultivators (Control of Rent and Security of Tenure) Act, 1967. 34. Municipal (Amendment) Act, 1967. 7. Excise (Amendment) Act, 1967. KEMATIAN ALLAH YARHAM 8. Petroleum (Income Tax) Act, YANG BERHORMAT TUAN 1967. HAJI AHMAD BIN ABDULLAH 9. Supplementary Income Tax Act, Tuan Yang di-Pertua: Ahli2 Yang 1967. Berhormat, dengan sedeh-nya saya 10. Income Tax Act, 1967. memaalumkan kapada Majlis ini ba­ 11. Loans Funds (Allocation to hawa Yang Berhormat Tuan Haji RIDA-1953 to 1956) Act, 1967. Ahmad bin Abdullah, Ahli bagi Kelantan Hilir, telah meninggal dunia. 12. Port Workers (Regulation of Bagi pehak Majlis ini, saya suka mela­ iEmployment) (Amendment) Act, fadzkan perasaan kehilangan kita dan 1967. belas kasehan terhadap keluarga Yang 13. Industrial Relations (Amendment) Berhormat Allah Yarham itu. Act, 1967. 14. Trade Unions (Amendment) KEBENARAN CHU'R BAGI TUAN (No. 2) Act, 1967. ABDUL RAHMAN BIN HAJI TALIB 15. Price Control (Amendment) Act, 1967. Tuan Yang di-Pertua: Abli2 Yang 16. Patents (Rights of Government) Berhormat, saya suka memberitahu Act, 1967. Majlis ini ia-itu pada menjalankan kuasa2 yang di-berikan kapada saya 17. Commonwealth Fugitive Crimi­ oleh ketetapan Majlis ini pada 25hb nals Act, 1967. April, 1961, saya telah membenarkan 18. Bankruptcy Act, 1967. Yang Berhormat Tuan Abdul Rahman 2571 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2572 bin Haji Talib, Ahli bagi Kuantan, since this was announced, I have had berchuti menurut Perkara 52 dalam no note of protest either from the Perlembagaan. Opposition side, or from the public, or even from members of my Party here. JAWAPAN2 MULUT BAGI The only indication of this opposition, or protest against such appointment, as PERTANYAAN2 you all are aware, is this question in this House at this sitting of the House. IBE HONOURABLE TUAN If the Honourable Members concerned ABDUL RAHMAN BIN HAJI feel that the appointment is wrong, and TALIB, P.J.K.-APPOINTMENT AS they have any reason to object to it, AMBASSADOR TO U.A.R. AND they know fully well that they have MOROCCO access to me, as they have always had, 1. Dr Lim Chong Eu asks the Prime and this is a matter which they could Minister to state : well have brought to my attention, but (a) if he is aware of the fact that they have not done so. The Opposition large sections of the public are Members have met me often enough shocked and concerned over the and have brought before me subjects Government's appointment of on limitless topics, and I do not see Enche' Abdul Rahman Talib as why they have not brought this to me. Malaysia's Ambassador to the If they had heard of any excitement, or Governments of the U.A.R. and any disturbance in the minds of the Morocco; people of this country about this appointment and brought it before me, (b) whether the implication of the I would be prepared to listen to it. results of the libel suit in which This matter of appointment of an Enche' Abdul Rahman Talib was ambassador, as I said, was made some plaintiff against Enche' D. R. time ago and there had been no protest. Seenivasagam was fully explained It is a designated post in the sense that to the Governments of the U.A.R. His Majesty the Yang di-Pertuan and Morocco; and Agong had given the power to the (c) will the Government rescind the Cabinet to make such appointments­ appointment. appointment of Ambassador, appoint­ ment of High Commissioner, or of any The Prime Minister: Mr Speaker, of our representatives abroad-and this Sir, with your permission, and with the is one appointment which the Cabinet agreement of the members concerned has the authority and the power to themselves, I would like to take ques­ make. tion No. 1 and question No. 6 together, because they relate to the same subject The Government of the U.A.R. and matter. There is no point in my the Government of Morocco are well answering it now and answering it aware of the libel action taken by Enche' again afterwards, as my answer will be Abdul Rahman Talib against the Mem­ exactly the same. ber for Ipoh, and they had not raised an objection to it. Enche' Abdul The question as to whether I am Rahman Talib has been a Member of aware that a large section of the public this House since that time, since he had are shocked and concerned over the unsuccessfully brought action against Government's appointment of Enche' the Member for lpoh for libel. If he Abdul Rahman Talib as our Ambas­ had won that case things would have sador to the United Arab Republic and been different, but he had been to Morocco, to be truthful, I am not punished enough by having to relin­ aware that the public are unduly quish his job in the Cabinet for the last worried, perturbed, or concerned, or two or three years. As far as I know, excited, over the appointment of Enche' people in his constituency had not lost Abdul Rahman Talib as our Ambas­ any confidence in him and neither had sador to the U .A.R. and Morocco. the people of Pahang, nor, as far as I Since the appointment was made, and know, the Members of this Parliament, 2573 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2574 because they all are aware that any Mr Speaker: I would like to know. person has the right to be in this House, if this is a supplementary question. even if he had been adjudged a crimi­ nal, or had been sentenced to less than Dr Tan 0.ee Khooo: Yes, Sir, it is one year imprisonment and if that a supplementary question. sentence had been passed upon him a Mr Speaker: It sounds to me as a year before, as it seems here; but, in long speech. this case Abdul Rahman Talib had never been sentenced to any imprison­ Dr Tan Chee Khoon: No, Sir. I ment. want to ask the Honourable the Prime It was he, who was the plaintiff in Minister, whether he is aware that this case against the Member for Ipoh; Boche' Abdul Rahman Talib, in losing he was not the defendant; nor was he that libel case, by implication, has been charged with any criminal act. He judged to be corrupt. The second is might have been indiscreet, but that is that the Judge, in no uncertain terms another matter which is not for us to in one part of his judgement, stated judge. As I said, he had paid enough that Boche' Abdul Rahman Talib was, for being indiscreet. The Government to use plain language, a liar. Is the sees no valid reason really to rescind Prime Minister aware that in view of the appointment already made, as he these two implications of the adverse has not done anything that is seriously judgement against Enche' Abdul criminal, or that is criminal at all. All Rahman Talib, the Government will he did was to bring the action to still persist with this appointment? redeem his good name and trying to The Prime Minister: Sir, I am quite clear himself in the eyes of the public aware of all these things and, as I said, and as I said, it is just a matter of I took a lot of trouble to go deeply luck that he had not succeeded. And into this particular case. As far as I now after years of suffering and devo­ am concerned, I am convinced that he tion-we know he had devoted quite a is not as bad as he is made to look. Jot of time to duty, in spite of the So, I think, in appointing him to this strain he had undergone and the pain post as our representative abroad, I he has suffered as a result of this have not taken much of a risk, I can case-I am prepared to give him a depend on him to do the right thing. chance and to consider bygones be The implication as suggested by the bygones. That is about all I need say Honourable Member, I think, is not here. correct-the legal implication is not Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr S~aker, there; it is only what exists in his own Sir, is the Honourable Prime Minister fertile imagination. aware that the Government is making Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker. such diplomatic appointments, while it Sir, is the Honourable Prime Minister may have no control over the pedigree aware that the Middle East is a very of the appointee, in the sense that sensitive area? As far as this country whether one is born high-brow or low­ is concerned, our image in the Muslim brow, the Government may not have world depends on what our appointee any control over the pedigree. but the says and does in Cairo. As such, is the Government has every control over the Prime Minister not aware that in credentials of the appointee and the making such an appointment he should Government should see to it that the see to it that the best person available credentials of the appointee are impec­ should be sent to represent us in cable. Is the Honourable Prime Minis­ Cairo? Is he telling us in this House ter aware that in referring to the libel that he cannot find any better person suit that Enche' Abdul Rahman Talib to represent us in the Middle East­ fought and lost, there are two implica­ other than Enche' Abdul Rahman tions in that Court case? The first is Talib? that in fighting against an allegation of ~OfI1:1Pti?n and losing that case, by The Prime Minister: We have got 1mphcat1on . . . ; . people who we think can represent us 2575 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2576 well abroad. ·On the other hand, in a Dr Tan Chee Khoon: On a point of troubled area or spot, like the Middle clarification, when the announcement East, we feel that the person best was made, I was far away in Seoul and suited to represent us is the person I had nothing to do with it (Laughter). who understands a lot about what is happening here, what is happening Tuan Lim Kean Siew (Dato there, and who has got political Kramat): Mr Speaker, Sir, I think this acumen, and it is from such persons question calls, perhaps, for a further that we can get a good report which question. Will the Honourable Prime we always like to see coming from that Minister let this House know what is part of the world. I am prepared to required of an ambassador and what give him a chance and I think he will are the qualifications for an ambas­ do well there. If I am convinced that sador? He did mention just now that he is not the right person to be sent political acumen is important in the there, he can always be recalled. Middle East. First of all, perhaps, he might not think that the present Dr Lim Chong Eu: Mr Speaker, Sir, appointee has very much political is the Honourable Prime Minister acumen in bringing up a libel suit aware of the fact that, when the which M lost; he knew he was going to announcement was first rumoured, lose it, and he should not have brought rather than substantively reported, on the libel suit; but having brought it and October the 11th, and following upon lost, he should accept the decision, that announcement which appeared in although it is a civil suit. However, the Press, the students in the University apart from this political acumen, will of Malaya did write to the Press to the Honourable Prime Minister inform protest against this then possible this House what are the qualifications appointment? and credentials required of an ambas­ sador? The Prime Minister: As Honourable Members are aware, some section of Mr Speaker: This is a separate the students-not all the students­ question. It is a different question. were much against the payment made by the Government in respect of the Tuan Lim Kean Siew: Mr Speaker, cost of legal proceedings in that case Sir, I thought that arose out of an and they were most vociferous against answer given by the Honourable Prime Minister, who said that the Middle it. So, I am not surprised that the East was a very troubled area and that students started this opposition then. I he was prepared to give the present am the Chancellor of the University, appointee a chance, because of his and they had not communicated their political acumen. So, I am asking him opposition to me at all. Therefore, I whether there are other qualifications do not think they take it seriously. and credentials required.

Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Is the Honour­ The Prime Minister: If he wants to able Prime Minister aware that it was know all the qualifications, I think I not a section of the University students can write and tell him, that is if he is protesting against this appointment, but really seriously anxious to know about that it was the University of Malaya them, but I do not think he is (Laughter). Students' Union, the Union that represents 4,500 students in the Univer­ Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Is the Honour­ sity of Malaya, that protested in no able Prime Minister aware that in the uncertain terms against this appoint­ case of one previous appointee, one of ment? the qualifications put forward in his favour was that he prayed seven times The Prime Minister: Yes, I am a day. Can the Honourable Prime aware of that and I am also aware that Minister tell us that, in the case of the the Honourable Member gets very close present appointee, he also is in the to this Union himself (Laughter). habit of praying seven times a day? 2577 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2578 The Prime Minister: As far as I and the Honourable Member knows know, no Muslim prays seven times a about that. The appointment of Enche' day. They only pray five times a day! Abdul Rahman Talib as Ambassador (Laughter). to the U.A.R., is not a matter which can be considered as anything having Dr Lim Chong Eu: Mr Speaker, Sir, been done to interfere with the course in view of the fact that the Honour­ of justice. able Prime Minister began his reply by saying that he was unaware of any Dr Lim Chong Eu: Mr Speaker, Sir, dissension towards this appointment this press conference, which was except from this Opposition, and in a reported on December 10th, was subsequent reply to a supplementary actually held on the 9th December. question he says that he is aware that 1964, and it was a press conference on the Students' Union is also dissatisfied the part of the Honourable Prime with this appointment, the Honourable Minister to rebut his use of the term Prime Minister probably misjudged the "innocence" with regard to the decision actual situation and, therefore, there are of the court on Enche' Abdul Rahman sections in this country probably larger Talib and also in consequence of his than he thinks who are dissatisfied with resignation as a Minister. Under the this appointment. circumstances, the Honourable Prime The Prime Minister: Mr Speaker, Minister in 1964 indicated that in Sir, I would not like to say any more, accepting the resignation of the plaintiff except that none of these protests or in that libel suit, who was then the so-called objections have been ever Minister of Education, he would not communicated to Die. Even this protest interfere with the course of justice. by the students, I was told so by the Honourable Member from the Opposi­ The Prime Minister: No answer is tion of this House just now-I did not required. hear about it before. As I said, I am the Chancellor of the University and Tuan Lim Kean Siew: Mr Speaker, they had not taken the trouble to Sir, I do not think that it is relevant, communicate their protest, objection or or warranted, to cast insinuations about whatever they have against the appoint­ motives of Members in asking questi9ns ment, to me at all. That is why I do not in this House. My question was what take it very seriously. the credentials and qualifications of an ambassador are supposed to be, and Dr Lim Chong Eu: Mr Speaker, Sir, I have been given the answer that the will the Honourable Prime Minister tell Honourable Prime Minister will give it this House whether or not the Cabinet, to me in writing. I do not know whether the Government, consider that the post I am supposed to take it for an answer, of an ambassador of this country is but I do not think that it is relevant equivalent to that of a post of Minister? to say that the matter was not raised before this House because this House The Prime Minister: Mr Speaker, is the place where such matters are to Sir, I think so. He is addressed as "His be raised. We represent sections of the Excellency" and this is more than what public and, I think, it is to this House a Minister here is entitled to (Laughter). that the Government is responsible Dr Lim Chong Eu: Mr Speaker, Sir, mainly. So, I repeat my question: Will will the Honourable Prime Minister the Honourable Prime Minister, leaving inform this House whether he can recall aside motives, inform this House that on December 10, 1964, he informed whether or not he is prepared to let the people of this country through a this House know what the credentials press conference that it was his opinion of an ambassador are supposed to be? that the Government would not inter­ fere with the course of justice. The Prime Minister: Mr Speaker, Sir, I do not have to make a long study lbe Prime Minister: We have never in order to tell the Honourable Member interfered with the course of justice, what the qualification of a man who is 2579 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2580 to be an ambassador abroad is. All I The Prime Minister: This is entirely can say is that he is somebody whom irrelevant. the Cabinet trusts, somebody whom the Cabinet thinks would be able to do his Dr Tan Chee Khoon: I do not see job well and, as I said just now, Enche' how this is entirely irrelevant. Abdul Rahman Talib is a qualified Mr Speaker: Because you are refer­ man to do the job and the Cabinet has ring to other High Commissioners­ appointed him to this post. There is that is why. You should refer to the no more that I would like to add to it. present subject of this question, which Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, is about Enche' Abdul Rahman Talib. Sir, part of my question, as opposed to that of the Honourable Member for Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, Tanjong, is that of "the appointment of Sir, the question that I pose, as opposed defeated, discredited and disgruntled from that of the Member for Tanjong. politicians to plums in the foreign is in two parts-one concerns Enche' service". Is the Honourable Prime Abdul Rahman Talib, the other con­ Minister aware that the appointment of cerns the appointment of defeated, discredited and disgruntled politicians discredited and disgruntled politicians. to plums in the foreign service is a It is on the Order Paper. thing that should be deprecated? Is the Mr Speaker: I can only see Enche' Honourable Prime Minister also aware Abdul Rahman Talib in both ques­ that it is no secret that the appointment tions-No. 1 and No. 6. of the former High Commissioner to Australia was not accepted in Seoul? Dr Tan Chee Khoon: No, Sir, the Is the Honourable Prime Minister also second part of it. The second part of aware that .... my question refers to . . . . Mr Speaker: We are going away Mr Speaker: Refers to Enche' D. R. from the question. We are getting to Seenivasagam (Laughter). nowhere now. You must ask supple­ mentary questions concerning the Dr Tan Chee Khoon: No. Sir. If I question in the Order Paper. may, Mr Speaker, Sir, read the whole Dr Tan Chee Khooo: My question question to clarify myself: is a little different from that of the "Dr Tan Chee Kboon: To ask the Minister of Foreign Affairs to state if he Member for Tanjong. is aware that the announcement of the appointment of Enche' Abdul Rahman Mr Speaker: You referred to some Talib as Ambassador to Morocco has other High Commissioner just now caused a great deal of indignation to which has nothing to do with this. honest people in this country'',-that is Part one. Dr Tan Chee Khoon: My question Part two reads: is "that the appointment of defeated, "and that the appointment of defeated, discredited and disgruntled politicians discredited and disgruntled politicians to plums in the foreign service is not in to plums in the foreign service is not in the interest of the service or the interest of the service or the the country; if so, whether be will country"-it is on the Order Paper. I consider revoking this appointment." refer to my question (No. 6) which the Honourable Prime Minister chose to Mr Speaker: Yes, but you cannot answer together. bring other names into it. The other question that I wish to Dato' S. P. Seenivasagam (Meng­ ask the Prime Minister is this : Is he lembu): Mr Speaker, Sir, in view of not aware that the previous appointee the appointment of Enche' Abdul to Tokyo was not exactly persona grata Rahman Talib to represent this country and that be has been shifted to another abroad, will the Honourable Prime appointment and in view of this will the Minister consider notifying the Anti­ Honourable Prime Minister assure this Corruption Departinent that it is the House .... policy of this Government to give evecy -. 2581 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2582 man one chance at corruption yang lain. (a) apa-kah dasar Kerajaan (Laughter). atas perkara ini; (b) ada-kah pakatan tentera yang sa-umpama ini dapat di­ Dr Lim Chong Eu: Sir, I have two jayakan, dan jika ya, ada-kah ini akan other supplementary questions-and I menjadi kebaikan J.Capada perhubongan have asked my question very directly Malaysia dengan Negeri2 Asia yang lain and very thoughtfully. Sir, in the reply di-luar Commonwealth. to my question, the Honourable Prime Minister stated that when Enche' Abdul 'Ihe Prime Minister: Tuan Yang di­ Rahman .Talib took out the libel suit Pertua, berkenaan dengan soal ini, cha­ against Enche' D.R. Seenivasagam, he dangan yang tersebut dalam soalan ini was only trying to clear his name-­ ia-itu ada-kah kita ini bersetuju dengan those were the words that were used by chadangan · Perdana Menteri Singapura the Honourable the Prime Minister. So. hendak mengadakan Tentera Common­ -· will the Prime Minister tell us whether wealth untok menjaga keselamatan or not the fact that the libel suit failed Singapura, Malaysia dan negara2 Asia was equivalent to the fact that Enche' yang lain, jadi chadangan ini tidak ada Abdul Rahman Talib did not manage perhubongan langsong dengan kita. Jadi to clear his name? (Pause) Sir, a bagi pehak kita ini sudah ada Perjanjian supplementary question in view of the Pertahanan dengan Kerajaan British dan fact that that bait has not been taken. kita telah pun puas hati dengan Per­ The Honourable Prime Minister has janjian itu, kerana Kerajaan British indicated to us that the role and telah pun memberi tahu. mereka akan position and the status of an ambas­ menghormati Perjanjian itu sa-lama2 sador of our country is equivalent to, masa dan sa-lama2 yang kita ke­ if not higher than, that of a Minister hendaki dan bagi pehak New Zealand of this House, and in view of the fact dan Australia juga ada mengikatkan that the Honourable the former Minister diri mereka dengan Perjanjian ini. of Education. Enche' Abdul Rahman Dengan ada-nya Perjanjian ini, saya Talib, felt it honour bound to resign as sendiri tidak tahu ada-kah mustahak­ a Minister of this House, when his case nya di-adakan apa2 lain perjanjian ber­ was lost, would it not be a reversion of kenaan dengan pertahanan negeri ini the course of justice, if the Government atau pertahanan Singapura, atau lain2 now appoints him to a post which is pertahanan Tenggara Asia ini. equivalent to and even higher than that of a Minister of this House? Jacli saya sendiri belum dengar dari­ pada Perdana Menteri Singapura. jadi Mr Speaker: I think all your atas chadangan ini chuma di-keluar­ questions have been covered by the kan perchakapan kapada akhbar2. Jadi answers given. You can draw whatever bagi pehak diri . kita, perjanjian yang conclusions you can from the ·answers telah kita adakan dengan Kerajaan already given. It is all covered. British ini tidak berbangkit criticism, atau pun bangkangan daripada mana2 PENUBOHAN PASOKAN pehak, melainkan bagaimana yang kita TENTERA COMMONWEALm tahu pehak yang bertentangan dengan UNTOK SINGAPURA, MALAYSIA kita ia-lah pehak Kominis. Jadi tidak DAN NEGERJ2 ASIA LAIN­ ada lain yang hendak kita buat. chuma­ KENYATAAN OLER P.M. nya ada satu perkara sahaja untok kita SINGAPURA hendak menentukan sikap Australia 2. Dato' Haji Mustapba bin Haji dan New Zealand berkenaan dengan Abdul Jabar bertanya kapada Perdana Perjanjian Pertahanan itu tadi, maka Menteri, memandang kapada kenyataan di-atas hal itu kita mengadakan perhu­ yang di-buat oleh Perdana Menteri bongan yang belum lagi dapat selesai. Singapura baharu2 ini mengesborkan penubohan satu Pasokan Tentera Com­ Tuan Ramli bin Omar (Kriaa monwealth untok menjaga keselamatan Darat): Soalan tambahan, Tuan Yang Singapura. Malaysia dan Negeri2 Asia di-Pertua. Ada-kah kita telah memberi 2583 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2584 mandat kapada Perdana Menteri Singa­ PAS ada menggunakan alat2 Kerajaan pura mengenai keselamatan negara kita kerana membantu pilehan raya Kelan. dan negara di-dalam Asia. tan Hilir dan Pasir Mas Hulu saperti menggunakan land rover2 Lembaga Ke­ The Prime Minister: Tuan Yang di­ majuan Tanah dan ada-kah Perdana Pertua...... (Ketawa). Menteri mengarahkan supaya Kerajaan Negeri Kelantan mengambil tindakan MENGGUNAKAN ALAT2 KERA­ atas perbuatan salah itu? JAAN DALAM PILEHANRAYA KECHIL PARLIMEN BAGI The Prime Minister: Ada juga KAWASAN KELANTAN temyata (Ketawa). Ini pun tidak di­ beri tahu kapada saya pada waktu itu, 3. Tuan Muhammad Fakhruddin bin lepas kejadian baharu bagi tahu. Jadi Haji Abdullah (Pasir Mas Hilir) tidak upaya-lah saya hendak buat apa2. [under S.O. 24 (2)] bertanya kapada J adi kalau kira2, dua pehak ini sama Perdana Menteri ada-kah beliau sedar salah-lah (Ketawa). bahawa alat2 Kerajaan telah di-guna­ kan untok mempengarohi pengundi2 Tuan M~ha bin Ahmad (Tanah dalam Pilehanraya kechil Parlimen bagi 2 Merah): Soalan tambahan, Tuan Yang kawasan Kelantan Hilir baharu ini, di-Pertua. Masaalah tudoh-menudoh dan jika sedar, apa-kah langkah yang menggunakan alat Kerajaan di-dalam telah di-ambil terhadap mereka yang pilehan raya Kelantan Hilir baharu2 terlibat. ini, ada-kah Yang Teramat Mulia The Prime Mb1ister: J adi yang mana Tunku Perdana Menteri sedar bahawa saya tahu berkenaan yang di-tudoh di­ sa-buah helicopter di-gunakan dan di­ sini ada-kah kita ini sedar bahawa alat2 turunkan di-dalam kawasan pilehan Kerajaan telah di-gunakan untok mem­ raya mengundi di-Banggol dan apa-kah pengarohi pengundi2 dalam Pilehan ada hubongan-nya dengan pertahanan raya. Bagaimana yang saya tahu, alat2 a tau pun dengan pilehan raya itu? Kerajaan itu tidak di-gunakan bagi mana2 pehak dalam pilehan raya, The Prime Minister: Saya fikir chuma-nya alat2 itu, penerangan itu, di­ Timbalan Perdana Menteri meng­ beri di-serata2 tempat sa-bagai peng­ gunakan helicopter kerana bekerja gunaan semua orang. Kita pun tahu di­ Rural Development, sebab itu dia meng­ atas keputusan pilehan raya pehak gunakan helicopter (Ketawa). Pembangkang sudah menang. J adi tentu-lah kalau ada di-gunakan alat Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, ini di-gunakan untok pehak Pembang­ Sir, is the Honourable Prime Minist~r kang sahaja-lah. aware that far from the Deputy Prime Minister making use of the RMAF Tuan Mohd. Daud bin Abdul Samad helicopter in connection with rural (Besot): Ada-kah Tunku Perdana Men­ development, it was a blatant attempt teri sedar bahawa ada Pegawai Tinggi of going there-as the newspapers put Penjara Malaysia ini yang datang ka­ it-he went there for four days-to --" rumah bekas2 orang yang keluar dari­ campaign on behalf of the Alliance pada penjara meminta supaya meng­ Party. Will the Honourable Prime undi Perikatan dan merayu kapada Minister see to it that whenever there pengundi2 di-kawasan Kelantan Hilir is either a by-election or an election, supaya mengundi Perikatan. there should be a very clear-cut distinc­ tion between party interest and Govern­ The Prime Minister: Kalau ada ment interest, in that, if there is an pehak Parti Islam tidak bagi tahu pada election, no Minister should use any saya pun. Government property to campaign? Wan Abdul Kadir bin Ismail The Prime Minister: From my infor­ (Kuala Trengganu Utara): Soalan mation, the Deputy Prime Minister was tambahan. Ada-kah Perdana Menteri only trying to kill two birds with one sedar bahawa pehak Kerajaan Negeri stone (Laughter). In actual fact, he was 2585 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2586 going on his round which had been fix­ on its conclusions with the two ed months ahead. While he was there Whitley Councils, and if so, the as Deputy Prime Minister he did his dates; work in the matter of rural develop­ (b) whether he will give an assurance ment, and while he was there he might that negotiations on the recom­ as well talk about the by-election, as mendation of the Suffian Com­ after all, he is the No. 2 head of the mission with the two Whitley Alliance. Councils would be speeded up. Tuan Mustapha bin Ahmad: Soalan The Prime Minister: Mr Speaker, tambahan. Berhubong dengan jawapan Sir, the Committee of Officials of the daripada Yang Teramat Mulia Perdana Government and the Staff Sides of the Menteri bahawasa Tun, Timbalan Per­ Whitley Councils and the Police dana Menteri yang juga menjadi Ketua Council are now examining in detail Perhubongan UMNO negeri Kelantan the recommendations of the Report of itu melawat dengan helicopter waktu the Suffian Commission on the salaries itu kerana ada maksud untok pem­ in the Public Service. Negotiations in bangunan, tetapi sa-panjang yang kita the two Whitley Councils and the dapati dan kita melihat tingkah laku Police Council on the recommenda­ daripada Yang Amat Berhormat Tun, 2 tions contained in this Report have not Tun tidak pernah melihat jalan atau yet been completed, and I can assure pun parit2 hanya sa-kadar berjumpa 2 the Honourable Member that th~ dengan orang pengundi sahaja, sa­ Government had been urging upon banyak itu sahaja yang kita tengok, them to speed up these negotiations sebab tidak jauh dia pergi kawasan itu between the Official and the Staff dia jalan pun sudah ada, apa pun sides. Also, I know that the Committee sudah ada, jadi di-situ tidak pemah ada of Officials has been working, some­ ranchangan yang tertentu-itu sebab thing like two-and-a-half hours a day saya bertanya. to try and get this work completed in good time, but they have not been Tuan Haji Abdul Ghani bin Ishak able to do it. I have been asked if (Melaka Utara): Jalan raya tidak ada, they could be allowed another month sebab itu dia naik kapal terbang to work on this Report because they (Ketawa). say that it is not possible to complete Tuan Mohd. Daud bin Abdul Samad: it in time. So far only the l.M.G. Ada-kah Tunku Perdana Mentri se­ workers have completed their Report dar bahawa di-masa kempen pilehan but the others have not yet done so. raya di-Kelantan Hilir baharu2 ini, bahawa orang2 yang di-tahan di-bawah Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Is the Honour­ Undang2 Penchegah Jenayah di-bebas­ able Prime Minister aware that far kan sementara untok datang ka-kawa­ from negotiations being carried out, san Kelantan Hilir untok merayu undi negotiations, I gather, have not even kapada parti Perikatan. started and that what has been done so far has been preliminary talks and The Prime Minister: Saya tidak preliminary discussions and examina­ tahu, Tuan Yang. di-Pertua. tion of the document? The other sup­ plementary question that I wish to ask IBE SUFFIAN COMMISSION is this: in view of the fact that the REPORT-RECOMMENDATIONS Suffian Report is no longer the top secret that the Government fondly hopes 4. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Prime it is, will the Honourable Prime Minis­ Minister: ter consider releasing that Report to the (a) to state if the Government has public, because the public are as much since considered the recommen­ interested in the Suffian Report as the dation of the Suffian Commission Government servants, and, as the and whether the Government has Prime Minister knows well, it is the now made arrangements for public which will foot the bill, what­ commencement of negotiations ever it may be? 2587 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2588 The Prime Minister: Mr Speaker, office of Prime Ministership was out Sir, I have told the Honourable Mem­ of the hands of the Honourable Minis­ ber before that until the Staff Side and ter of Finance. Sir, I just want a the Official Side have had a chance to clarification (Laughter). discuss the Report, it would not be right for the public to get possession IBE HONOURABLE TUAN of it and try to influence the Staff Side ABDUL RAHMAN BIN HAJI or the Official Side. Therefore. I would TALIB, P ..J.K.-APP()INTMENT ask the Honourable Member to be AS AMBASSADOR TO U.A.R. patient, because we are really working AND MOROCCO hard to try to get this done, and when they have made a full study of the 6. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Report, they will then negotiate with Minister of Foreign Affairs to state one another. Given time. I think they that if he is aware that the announce­ will do it in good time. ment of the appointment of Enche' Abdul Rahman Talib as Ambassador APPOlNTMENT OF TIIE PRIME to Morocco has caused a great deal of MINIS';rER OF MALAYSIA indignation to honest people in this country, and that the appointment of 5. Tuan Lim Kean Siew asks the defeated, discredited and disgruntled Prime Minister tO state why he has not politicians to plums in the foreign given an assurance to this House that service is not in the interest of the any Federal citizen is entitled to be a service or the country; if so, whether Prime Minister of this country irres­ he will consider revoking this appoint­ pective of race or religion. ment. The Prime Minister: I do not know (Please see answer to Question No. 1) what assurance the Honourable Mem­ ber wants from this House, because TANGGA GAJI TENTERA2 there is the Constitution which lays MALAYSIA down in clear terms that anybody can be a Prime Minister so long as he has 7. Tengko Zaid bin Tengku Ahmad the support of the House. That is as bertanya kapada Menteri Pertahanan it stands and there has been no ada-kah beliau sedar gaji tentera2 kita attempt to change that part of the yang berjalan sekarang, tcrutama sa­ Constitution. kali daripada pangkat Keptan ka­ bawah, tidak menchukupi, dan jika Tuan Lim Kean Siew: Mr Speaker. sedar, apa-kah tindakan yang sedang Sir, was the Honourable the Prime atau yang akan di-ambit bagi menga­ Minister asking me a question because tasi kegelisahan dan kesulitan hidup he did not know what assurance I mereka. wanted? The Prime Minister: I cannot say Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang anything else. What assurance can I di-Pertua, tangga gaji pegawai2 tentera give the Honourable Member? The daripada peringkat Keptan ka-bawah Constitution is there and it is quite ada-lah di-fikirkan berpatutan jika di­ clear. He is a lawyer and he can read bandingkan dengan tangga gaji pega­ it for himself. wai2 'awam Kerajaan. Sa-lain daripada gaji, mereka juga mendapat kemu­ Tuan Lim Kean Siew: Mr Speaker, dahan2 dan elaun2 yang lain saperti Sir, I was merely asking a question, in perumahan, elaun kahwin dan sa­ order that this statement may be made bagai-nya. Mereka juga dapat pergi public. In the recent controversy in the dengan keretapi, atau kapal terbang papers, the Honourable Deputy Prime atas perbelanjaan Kerajaan apabila Minister did say that it was only a mengambil chuti tahunan. private quarrel between the Alliance members and that a Chinese could be Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Is the Honour­ a Deputy Prime Minister. So, it did able Minister of Defence aware that give the impression that perhaps the the allowances, in particular the 2589 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2590 ~,, housing allowances, paid to military TANGGA GAJI TENTERA­ personnel in the lower ranks are far BERAPA LAMA PATUT DI- below that of the allowances paid, for ULANG KAJI example, to personnel 9f comparable 8. Wan Hassan bin Wan Daud [S. 0. rank in the police force? Is he aware 24 (2)] bertanya kapada Menteri Per­ of this and that the housing allowances tahanan sudah berapa lama-kah tangga given to a military personnel. if he gaji tentera2 kita berjalan hingga were to have to find accommodation sekarang, dan berapa lama-kah tempoh in Kuala Lumpur in particular would yang sa-patut-nya di-adakan untok be totally inadequate for that purpose? peninjauan sa-mula atas tangga gaji yang tersebut. Tun Haji Abdul Razak: It is not a supplementary question arising from Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang this, but I can answer that. We are di-Pertua, tangga gaji anggota tentera looking into the question of allowances kita yang ada sekarang ini telah ber­ to other ranks and we are doing as jalan semenjak tahun 1957. Semenjak much as we can to try and build tarikh itu satu tambahan gaji semen­ accommodation, either houses or fiats. tara telah di-buat pada lhb Januari. and the question of their salaries and 1965. Sementara itu sa-buah jawatan­ allowances is now under investigation. kuasa telah mengkaji sa-mula gaji dan In fact, the Report of the Committee elaun anggota2 lain pangkat dan juga is ready now for consideration by the elaun2 bagi pegawai2 tentera. Penyata Government. ini baharu sahaja siap dan akan di­ kemukakan kapada Kerajaan dalam Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, sadikit masa lagi. Tidak ada tempoh Sir, in view of the fact that the Minis­ yang tertentu bagi meninjau sa-mula ter of Defence is also Minister for tangga gaji tentera dan perkara ini Home Affairs, in any revision of boleh-lah di-semak bila2 sahaja di­ salaries, will he see to it that at least fikirkan mustahak. the other ranks in the Armed Forces will enjoy the same housing allowances PERUMAHAN UNTOK TENTERAZ as those of comparable ranks in the MALAYSIA Police force. 9. Wan Hassan bin Wan Daud [S. O. Tun Haji Abdul Razak: I shall try 24 (2)] bertanya kapada Menteri Per­ to be fair to all officers under my tabanan ada-kah beliau sedar bahawa jurisdiction but we cannot take one sa-bahagian besar daripada tentera2 item alone, i.e., the salary. We must kita yang berpangkat rendah yang take other privileges too because in telah berumah tangga, tidak di-beri rumah tem.pat tinggal yang sa-wajar­ some cases the Police do not get a 2 ration allowance while the Army do nya terutama mereka di-Kuala Lum­ get it, but all these are being con­ pur dan terpaksa mereka menyewa sidered, Sir, and the report is now rumah2 burok yang sa-padan dengan -;;.._ ready for consideration by the Govern­ elaun rumah yang terlalu kechil yang ment. di-berikan kapada mereka, dan jika sedar, apa-kah tindakan beliau ber­ Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, chadang hendak ambil untok memper­ Sir, will the Honourable Minister of elokkan keadaan ini. Defence give an assurance that if and Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang when the report is ready and presented di-Pertua. saya telah pun jawab tadi to the Government and, we hope, kapada Yang Berhormat wakil dari accepted by the Government. it will be Batu bahawa ada-lah di-perchayai ahli2 tabled in this House for debate. tentera yang di-sebutkan oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat ini ia~lah other ranks Tun Haji Abdul Razak: That is a atau pun ahli2 Iain pangkat ia-itu matter for the Government to decide bukan pegawai2 Keptan atau Lcftenan when the time comes. ka-bawah ia-itu lain2 pegawai yang 2592 2591 13 NOVEMBER 1907 tidak ada mempunyai pangkat ia-itu gunakan harta orang ramai ka pada ahli2 yang bukan pegawai. Kerajaan jalan yang salah saperti itu. 2 ada-lah menjalankan usaha dengan sa­ Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Menteri2 berapa boleh untok mengadakan 2 2 Kerajaan ada-lah di-benarkan meng­ rumah kelamin dan juga rumah guna kapal2terbang dan helikopter2 pangsa bagi ahli2 tentera dan pada 2 Tentera Udara di-Raja Malaysia untok mereka yang terpaksa juga menyewa menjalankan kerja2 rasmi mereka sa­ rumah di-luar ada-lah elaun yang di­ bagai Menteri. sediakan oleh Kerajaan. Saperti yang saya katakan tadi juga masaalah elaun Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Soalan tamba­ ini sedang di-semak oleh Kerajaan dan han. Ada-kah Menteri Pertahanan dengan sa-berapa boleh Kerajaan akan sedar pada masa Alliance Party Con­ memberi juga apa2 bantuan kapada vention di-Kuching yang lalu Menteri2 pehak other ranks atau pun pegawai2 Kerajaan Pusat telah pergi ka-Kuching lain yang di-fikirkan berkeadaan ke­ dengan kapalterbang R.M.A.F. susahan terutama sa-kali terhadap Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Saya tahu rumah. sebab saya sendiri beri kebenaran-nya Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker. kerana Menteri2 ini mustahak berada Sir, the Honourable Deputy Prime di-Kuching bukan sahaja sa-bagai Minister and Minister of Defence in menghadhiri Convention itu bahkan his reply has stated that low-cost menjalankan tugas2 mereka itu sa-bagai housing will be one of the things that Menteri2. will be provided for other ranks in Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Soalan tamba­ our Armed Forces. Can the Honour­ han. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, boleh-kah able Minister of Defence tell us what Menteri Pertahanan memberitahu ka­ plans the Ministry of Defence has for pada Dewan Yang Berhormat ini erecting low-cost housing for other sa-lain daripada Menteri Pertahanan, ranks in the Kuala Lumpur area? lain Menteri yang pergi ka-Kuching, 2 Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Mr Speaker, apa tugas -nya apabila mereka pergi "' Sir, we have plans subject to availabi­ ka-Kuching. lity of funds. We are doing that because Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang we have our troops not only in Kuala di-Pertua, tugas Menteri2 ada-lah ber­ Lumpur but in other parts, and I think macham2. Jadi Menteri2-tiap2 orang at the moment priority is given to those Menteri-ada jawatan2 khas, jadi who serve in outlying areas where dalam melawat ka-tempat2 mereka itu private accommodation is difficult to menjalankan tugas sa-bagai Menteri. find. Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Soalan tamba­ han, Tuan Yang di-Pertua. Boleh-kah MENGGUNAKAN KAPALTER- Menteri Pertahanan memberitahu BANG DAN HELIKOPTER 2 Dewan Yang Berhormat ini apa tugas P.T.U.D.M. OLEH MENTERI DAN Menteri Kewangan ada di-Kuching PEGAWAI PARTAI PERIKATAN pada masa itu. UNTOK RAPAT UMUM PILEHAN- RAYA Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tuan Yang 10. Dr Tan Chee Khoon bertanya di-Pertua, tugas Menteri Kewangan ada­ kapada Menteri Pertahanan ada-kah lah banyak dan sangat berat (Ketawa). kena pada tempat-nya sa-saorang Men­ 11. Tuan Khoo Peng Loong (Sarawak) teri dart pegawai dalam Partai Peri­ asks the Minister of Home Affairs katan menggunakan kapalterbang dan whether Government will return the helikopter2 P.T.U.D.M. untok mem­ guns which were surrendered by the bawa mereka ka-rapat2 umum pilehan• Chinese in Sarawak for safe custody raya dan ka-majlis2 jamuan partai. during confrontation; if not whether Ada-kah patut menggunakan keri­ the Government is prepared to buy up deraan2 Kementerian Pertahanan untok these guns from those owners who are maksud2 demikian, jika tidak, dapat­ willing to sell their guns to the Govern­ lah beliau merentikan perbuatan meng- ment. 2593 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2594 The Assistant Minister of Home (3) Melanggar sharat2 yang tertentu Affairs (Tuan Hamzah bin Dato' Abu di-dalam lesen2, umpama-nya sa­ Samah): Mr Speaker, Sir, in view of kira-nya senjata sa-saorang itu the security situation in Sarawak at the apabila telah di-beri senjata api moment, whereby the communist untok menggunakan-nya bagi tar­ organisation is still posing a militant get practice di-bawa-nya senjata threat to Sarawak, it is not yet possible api itu ka-mana2 ia pergi dengan generally to release private firearms tidak kebetulan tujuan-nya meng­ surrendered for safe-keeping. The ques­ gunakan senjata api itu untok sa­ tion of compensation, as asked by the bagaimana di-tentukan di-dalam Honourable Member, does not arise in sharat ia-itu menembak pada this case, Mr Speaker, Sir, because the masa target practice. arms kept in custody by the Police (4) Meminjamkan senjata api kapada were never confiscated-they were orang lain tanpa kebenaran. merely surrendered for safe-keeping, and they will be returned to the owners (5) Sebab yang boleh di-tarek balek as and when the security situation senjata orang yang mempunyai permits. However, there have been lesen itu ia-lah sa-kira-nya sebab2 some applications for the return of the asal di-keluarkan lesen itu di• firearms so kept in custody and some dapati tidak berbangkit lagi. of these applications have been favour­ Mithal-nya kalau sa-orang itu di­ ably considered. beri lesen kerana menjaga kebun getah yang baharu di-tanam, KESALAHAN2 YANG MEMBOLEH­ lepas beberapa tahun kalau sa­ KAN POLIS MENAREK HALEK kira-nya getah itu sudah besar LESEN2 SENJATA API di-dapati tidak mustahak ia-nya di-benarkan menyimpan lagi 12. Tuan Mohd. Daud bin Abdul pistol itu, pehak yang bertang­ Samad [bawah S. 0. 24 (2)] bertanya gongan ia-itu Pegawai Polis kapada Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri boleh menarek balek sen­ Negeri apa-kah kesalahan2 yang mem­ jata api itu. bolehkan pehak polis menarek balek lesen2 senjata api daripada pemegang2 (6) Lagi satu sebab boleh di-tarek lesen tersebut. ia-lah melakukan kesalahan jena­ yah atau sa-barang perbuatan Tuan Hamzah bin Dato' Abu Samah: yang menunjokkan perangai dan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, mengikut kelakuan bersifat tidak layak lagi Undang2 Senjata Api, tahun 1960, di-amanahkan menyimpan senjata Ketua Pegawai Polis di-tiap2 negeri ada api itu. di-beri kuasa membatal atau menggan­ tong tiap2 satu lesen senjata api atau DEPRIVATION OF CITIZENSHIP pistol dengan sebab keselamatan 'awam, OF ENCHE' HAMID TUAH atau pun sebab2 yang lain yang di­ chatitkan oleh pegawai yang berkenaan. 13. Tuan Lim Kean Siew asks the Daripada ini, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, Minister of Home Affairs to state tidak-lah dapat di-jelaskan sebab2 whether the Government is aware of the dalam mana senjata api boleh di-tarek statement by the Menteri Besar of balek, tetapi mengikut penarekan2 yang Selangor published in a certain news­ telah di-lakukan dahulu maka sa­ paper that he will request the Central bilangan sebab2 yang pernah di-jadikan Government to deprive Hamid Tuah of alasan ada-lah saperti berikut: his citizenship and will the Minister of Home Affairs inform this House (1) Jikalau menggunakan senjata api whether or not such a request has been untok melakukan kesalahan jena· transmitted to the Central Government; yah. if so, will the Government accede to the (2) Tidak chermat menjaga kesela· Menteri Besar's request. matan 'awam sa-masa mengguna· kan senjata api umpama-nya ter­ Tuan Hamzah bin Dato' Abu Samah: tembak kawan masa memburu. Mr Speaker, Sir, the Ministry has not 2595 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2596 received any request, and if and when RESERVE FUND OF STATE OF it is received, the matter would be SARAWAK HANDED OVER BY considered on its merits. BRITISH _GOVERNMENT TO THE MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT Dr Tan Chee Kboon: Mr Speaker, Sir, is the Honourable Assistant Minis­ 14. Tuan Khoo Peng Loong (Sarawak) ter of Home Affairs aware that this asks the Minister of Finance to state question of deprivation of the citizen­ whether there was any reserve fund ship of Hamid Tuah is a very serious from the State of Sarawak handed over matter and the Government, if and by the British Government to the when it should receive such a request, Malaysian Government when Sarawak should take into serious consideration joined Malaysia, and if so, how much. that there is a great pergadohan between the Dato' Menteri of Selangor The Minister of Finance (Tun Tan and Hamid Tuah and should not listen Siew Sin): Mr Speaker, Sir, no ~serves just to the version of the Dato' Menteri belonging to the State were handed of Selangor? over by the British Government. Tuan Hamzah bin Dato' Abo Samah: PENANG UNIVERSITY COLLEGE Mr Speaker, Sir, I can give the GRANTS BY FEDERAL Honourable Member the assurance that GOVERNMENT the question of the deprivation of citizenship is, in our view, a very 15. Dr Lim Chong Eu asks the serious matter which must always be Minister of Finance to state : looked into very carefully before the (a) what is the sum which the Central power of deprivation is exercised by Government will provide to the this Ministry. State of Penang by way of capital Dr Tan Chee Kboon: May we have grant for the establishment of the an assurance from the Assistant Minis­ University of Penang; ter of Home Affairs that political con­ (b) to what extent the Central siderations would not colour such a Government will subsidise the decision, if and when it is made on a annually recurrent expenditure of request for the deprivation of the this University; and citizenship of Enche' Hamid Tuah? (c) when the initial grants will be Tuan Ham7.8h bin Dato' Abo Semah: made. As the Honourable Member is fully Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, aware, there are laid down in our Cons­ matters connected with the proposed titution various grounds whereby a Penang University College project, citizen can be deprived of his citizen­ including its financial implications, are ship, and I can give the assurance to the being considered by a Working Com­ Honourable Member that the Minister mittee. The Government, therefore, is will exercise his discretion, having not in a position to give any informa­ regard to all these grounds that are tion until the report of the Working fully set out in the Constitution, and Committee has been received and will not take into consideration any studied. political ground. Dr Tan Chee Kboon: Is the Honour· Dr Tm. Chee Kboon: Mr Speaker, able Assistant Minister of Home Sir, is the Honourable Minister of Affairs aware-as I am aware-that Finance aware that from time to time many such decisions in the past to dep­ there has been certain Delphic pro­ rive citizens of their citizenships have nouncements from Penang regarding been taken purely on political grounds the starting of this University College and that is why my anxiety with regard in Penang? One statement made very to Enche' Hamid Tuah? recently was that classes would be started next year. All these have finan­ Mr Speaker. That is a different cial implications. Will he confirm that question. no such commitments have been made 2597 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2598 to the establishment of the University 16. Dr Lim Chong Eu asks the College or the University in Penang Minister of Finance to state: and that such Delphic pronouncements (a) on what occasions the Central have no basis where the Ministry of Government had intervened in Finance is concerned? the Rubber Market to stabilise the fall in the price of rubber; Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, I am not aware of those pronounce­ (b) on each of these occasions how ments. In any case, whatever pro­ much rubber was purchased by nouncements had been made will the Government's agents and at obviously have to be considered in the what price level; and light of our financial position. (c) how much of the rubber thus purchased have been resold. and Dr Lim Chong Eu: Mr Speaker, Sir, at what price. if the Honourable Minister of Finance is unable to make an announcement Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, just now, will the Honourable Minister it would not be in the public interest of Finance inform this House whether to divulge the information asked for or not discussions are on the way by the Honourable Member. To do so between the State Government of would utterly destroy the effectiveness Penang and the Central Government of the operation and defeat its very (with the Minister of Finance) with purpose. regard to the financing of this Univer­ Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Mr Speaker, sity? Otherwise, if the Minister of Sir, while I totally agree with the Finance is reluctant to give some kind Honourable Minister of Finance that of assurance or aid, then the planning it is not in the public interest to cannot go on. divulge the occasions when the Central Government intervened to stabilise the Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, price of rubber. will he give an assu­ we are committed to this project of rance that the Central Government starting a University College in Penang. will consider very seriously whether But as far as the Treasury is aware, the Malaysian Government can afford and certainly as far as I am aware, the to go it alone in this business of financial commitment has not yet been entering into. or getting out of, the accepted and certainly it has not yet rubber market without the co-opera­ been fixed. tion of other rubber producing coun­ tries? It does seem to us on this side GOVERNMENT MEASURES FOR of the House and the taxpayers that STABILISATION OF NATURAL it is a very dangerous practice for the RUBBER PRICE Government to go it alone. 16. Dr Lim Chong Eu: Sir, arising out Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker. Sir. of question 16, I have the Member for both as the Custodian of the nation's Bungsar's permission to ask that ques­ purse and the Chairman of the tions 19 and 20 be taken also at the Standing Committee on the Rubber same time. Industry, which has been set up for this purpose, I can give an assurance Mr Speaker: What questions? that the Government will act respon­ Dr Lim Chong Eu: 19 and 20-they sibly and with discretion. are related, I think. DISCU~IONS BETWEEN THE U.S. Mr Speaker: I think you better leave DY. ASST. SECRETARY OF STATE 19 and 20 for the Honourable Mem­ FOR ECONOMIC AFFAIRS IN ber for Bungsar to ask. EAST ASIA (Mr. ROBERT BAR· NE'IT) AND THE MINISTER OF Tun Tan Siew Sin: So what question FINANCE, MALAYSIA you want me to answer? 17. Tuan Sim Boon Liang (Sarawak) Dr Lim Chong Eu: 16. asks the Minister of Finance to state 2599 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2600 ,"~ what was the outcome of his discus­ GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION sions with Mr Robert Barnett, Deputy IN THE RUBBER MARKET Assistant Secretary of State for Econo­ 19. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the mic Affairs in East Asia during his Minister of Finance: recent visit to U.S. to stabilise the world price of natural rubber. (a) in view of the concern and hopes raised by the Government's inter­ Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, vention in the rubber market, I have nothing to add to the statement would the Minister- which was issued from the White (i) make a statement on the House as a result of my recent meeting effects of that intervention with President Johnson in Washington. on the country's financial In regard, however, to the general resources and economy, and question of rubber prices, I would ask on the people involved in the Honourable Member to await the rubber, namely the mer­ statement which I shall make when chants, the estate owners, moving a motion which has been put the smallholders and the down on the Order Paper asking this tappers; House to approve the setting up of a (ii) state, in particular, what "Government Rubber Trading Trust reliefs have been afforded to Account". the smallholder by way of increases in prices in rubber RAISING OF ADDIIlONAL TAXES of lower grades; AND ABOLITION OF DEVELOP­ (b) to state whether the Government MENT TAX IN SARAWAK would consider it desirable that a 18. Tuan Sim Boon Liang asks the cash aid scheme be implemented Minister of Finance: immediately for those described (a) whether it is the only intention of as having only one meal a day. ~·;;;: the Government to raise addi­ Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speak~r. Sir, tional taxes in view of the in regard to the general question of the deteriorating rubber and tin Government's decision to intervene in prices as stated by he liimself the rubber market, I would ask the recently; and Honourable Member to await the state­ (b) if not, whether he will consider to ment which I shall make when moving abolish the Development Tax in the motion to seek the approval of this Sarawak or postponement to House to set up a "Government Rubber another five years' time in order Trading Trust Account." The motion is to lighten the burden of the already on the Order Paper and will present hardship of the people be taken later on in this session. For there. the moment, I would say that if, as a result of the Government intervention Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speaker, Sir, in the rubber market, the price of the Honourable Member wishes to rubber were to rise by even a few cents know whether the Government will be a pound, there would clearly be benefi­ raising additional taxes or not in view cial effects not only for those directly of the declining prices of rubber and engaged in the industry, there would be tin. It is obvious that he will have to indirect benefits for others as well as a contain his impatience a little longer result of the higher level of economic since I clearly cannot divulge the 1968 activity engendered thereby. While the Budget proposals to him now. I can be prices of lower grade rubbers may not more explicit in replying to the second have benefited much by the Govern­ part of his question. The Government ment's intervention in the market, it is not considering the abolition of the should also be borne in mind that this Development Tax in Sarawak or in the intervention was never at any time other States of Malaysia. The question designed to be a magic cure for the ills of the industry arising from its of a postponement does not arise as the ~,:- tax is already in force. prevailing low price. 2601 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2602 · The second part of the question urges in price in the prices of rubber which the Government to consider a cash aid this Government should seek to have. scheme to be implemented immediately Consequently, in as much as this in­ for smallholders who have been badly tervention in the rubber market also hit by the present level of prices. It benefits the capitalist, those who have should be emphasised that a cash aid efficient rubber estates which can sur­ scheme will not remove the root causes vive even when the price is 46 cents of the said problem. It would only be per pound, is he aware that far from palliative and a dangerous palliative at the smallholder benefiting a little as he that, because the cost will be astrono­ said, I think it is true to say that the mical and would far outweigh its smallholder has not in any way bene­ advantages. In any case, the Govern­ fited from the Government's interven­ ment cannot afford the prohibitive cost tion. Will the Government consider of such a scheme, apart from the some form of aid whatever it may be dangerous precedent that such a scheme to the smallholder who, as the Member will create. for Bungsar has described has only one meal a day? A more helpful approach in the long term would be for the State Govern­ Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speakier, Sir, ments concerned to alienate land to the Honourable Member, I think, has such smallholders on easy terms to made a statement which rather con• enable them to switch to food crops and thus diversify their holdings to the tradicts what he himself has said. If advantage of themselves and the the sole purpose of the Government's country. In this way the present reces­ recent intervention in the rubber mar­ sion could be a blessing in disguise, if ket was to help the capitalist and he the challenge and opportunity thus himself contends, although there is presented are met squarely vigorously some truth in that contention that some and with imagination. of the large units are low-cost produ­ cers, and thus well able to survive the Tuan C. V. Devan Nair: Would it present level of prices, it is the small­ be true to say, Sir, that the Govern­ holders who are worst hit by the present ment's intervention in the rubber mar­ level of prices, and hence the purpose ke.t .. has not meant any purchase of of the Government's intervention, cer­ rubber produced by the smallholders, tainly the objective of the Govern­ generally the rubber produced by the ment's intervention, is not only to help smallholders is not of the Grade I one section of the industry but to help variety-it is of Grade II or III? every section of the industry, and the section of the industry which stands Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speak.er, Sir, most to gain would be that section of smallholders do produce Ribbed Smok­ the industry which is the highest cost ed Sheet No. 1, if that is what the Honourable Membet' is referring to, producer. although I do agree that the percent­ age of No. 1 rubber produced by the Tuan C. V. Devan Nair: Mr Speaker, smallholders is not as high as it should Sir, would the Minister, perhaps be able be, or as high as that produced by the to disclose the proportion of rubber estate sector of the industry. which the Government has purchased from the smallholders as distinct from Dr Tan Chee Khoon: Is the Honour­ the big estates. able Minister of Finance aware that his statement that giving cash aid, Tun Tan Siew Sin: Mr Speakier, Sir, would not solve the problem of poverty the Honourable Member, probably, is of the smallholders, in as much as that not aware that it is not possible when perhaps may or may not be true, it buying rubber to distinguish between certainly is true that Government's what has come from the estate sector of intervention in the rubber market will the industry and what has come from not solve long-term-wise any stability the smallholder sector of the industry. 2603 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2604 (Tempoh Pertanyaan Mulut telah pertimbangan ini-lah maka kita telah chukup, dan jawapan kapada Perta­ bersetuju untok mengendalikan shari­ nyaan No. 20 sampai No. 28 ada-lah kat penerbangan ini bersama dengan di-beri di-bawah inl). Kerajaan Singapura. Nama sharikat ini telah di-tukar kapada Sharikat Pener­ PRICE SUPPORT BY RUBBER bangan Malaysia-Singapura. Ini di­ PRODUCING COUNTRIES lakukan untok kepentingan kita sendiri terutama untok melaksanakan perkhid­ 20. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the matan2 dalam negeri. Kita tidak dapat Minister of Finance whether the failure menjalankan perkhidmatan kita sendiri of the Government to intervene in the dengan untong saperti yang dapat di­ rubber market when the price of rub­ lakukan oleh satu sharikat bersama. ber again fell below 50 cents a pound Kementerian saya sentiasa menim­ after the international conference in bangkan mengenai keperluan menu­ Kuala Lumpur, indicates that no agree­ bohkan sa-buah sharikat penerbangan ment on price support on the part of yang berasingan dan saya memberi other producing countries in the region jaminan kapada Ahli Yang Berhormat was reached at the conference. bahawa apabila masa-nya telah tiba lbe ·Minister of Commerce and untok berbuat demikian kita ak:an Industry (Dr Lim Swee Aun): What melaksanakan-nya juga. was agreed by the Conference of Rub­ ber Producing Countries was stated in MEASURES TAKEN TO STABILISE the Press communique which was issu­ THE PRICE OF RUBBER ed at the end of that Conference. I 22. Tuan Lim Kean Siew asks the wish however to point out the impres­ Minister of Commerce and Industry to sion the Honourable Member seems to State, apart from the Government's have that the Government did not attempt to maintain the price of rubber intervene in the market after the 4th by the purchase of rubber in the rubber ·C:: of October, 1967, is not correct. The market, what other steps have been Government continued to buy various taken to stabilise the rubber price with quantities of rubber after that date. special reference to the Conference which was supposed to be held on PENUBOHAN SA-BUAH SHARI­ October 2nd, 1967 and what concrete KAT PENERBANGAN YANG steps has he taken on his promise that BERASINGAN DARIPADA Thailand, Ceylon, Indonesia and Singa­ SINGAPURA pore would give unanimous support to 21. Tuan Abdul Ruak bin Haji Malaysia's "rescue operation". Russin bertanya kapada Menteri Pengangkutan oleh kerana Singapura Menteri Penlagangan dan Perusa­ dan Malaysia sekarang ada-lah negara2 haan (Dr Lim Swee Aun): A Confer­ yang berasingan dan sa-bahagian besar ence of Natural Rubber Producing daripada kawasan2 penerbangan Shari­ Countries was held in Kuala Lumpur from 2nd October to 4th October, 1967 kat Penerbangan Malaysia-Singapura -, (MSA) ada-lah dalam Malay.sia, ada­ to consider action that should be taken kah Kerajaan akan menimbang menu­ on the fall in ·the price of rubber. The bohkan sa-buah Sharikat Penerbangan Conference felt that there was an yang berasing daripada Singapura, jika urgent need for remedial action and in ya, bila dan jika tidak, mengapa. this connection, the Conference strong­ ly endorsed the measures recently taken Menteri Pengangkutan (Tan Sri Baji by the Malaysian Government to re­ Sardon bin Haji Jubir): Ketika Singa­ store the confidence to the rubber mar­ pura berpisah dari Malaysia pertim­ ket and to raise the price of NR to a bangan yang sunggoh mendalam telah more equitable level. di-berikan mengenai masa depan Shari­ kat Penerbangan Malaysia-Singapura The Conference agreed on the im­ (Sharikat Penerbangan Malaysia yang mediate formation of an Association of di-kenali dahulu) dan basil daripada NR Producing Countries with a Joint 2605 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2606 Permanent Secretariat. This Associa­ hendak di-pertinggikan. Jika tentangan tion will undertake to consider joint terhadap Pukat Tunda ini dapat di­ marketing measures to maintain NR hapuskan, maka ranchangan2 tegas prices at equitable and remunerative dapat di-jalankan juga di-negeri Perlis levels, examine the marketing mecha­ saperti yang sedang berjalan di-negeri2 nism, techniques and practices, investi­ Kedah, Pulau Pinang, Perak dan di­ gate shipping rates charged by Confe­ Pantai Timor Malaysia Barat ini. rence Lines, consider measures to se­ cure greater collaboration between NR Pehak Kerajaan Pusat juga telah producing countries, promote greater menyediakan peruntokan sa-banyak use of NR; and examine other immedi­ $50,000 untok sa-buah pengkalan ber­ ate and long-term solutions to the pro­ tempat di-Ranchangan Penempatan blems of NR. Semula Nelayan yang di-selenggarakan oleh Kerajaan Negeri Perlis. Pem­ With regard to the second part of the benaan pengkalan tersebut telah pun question, I am in no position to pro­ berjalan pada bulan Julai sudah dan di­ mise on behalf of other NR producing jangka akan siap pada pertengahan countries. At the Conference of NR tahun hadapan. producing countries, held recently in Kuala Lumpur, other NR producing JAMINAN FAMA TERUS MEN­ countries had expressed their prepared­ JALANKAN TUGAS2-NY A DI· ness to provide every possible positive KEDAH DAN PERLIS support to maintain the NR price at an 24. Tuan Haji Mokhtar bin Haji equitable level. 111118il bertanya kapada Menteri Per­ tanian dan Sharikat Kerjasama boleh­ BANTUAN UNTOK MENINGGI­ kah dia memberi jaminan bahawa KAN TARAF HIDUP NELAYANZ FAMA akan terus menjalankan tugas2- DI-KUALA PERUS nya di-negeri Kedah dan Perlis; hingga sekarang ini sa-jauh mana FAMA telah 23. Tuan Haji Mokhtar bin Haji menjalankan usaha2-nya di-kedua2 Ismail bertanya kapada Menteri Per­ negeri itu. tanian dan Sharikat Kerjasama ada­ kah dia sedar bahawa nelayan2 di· Tuan Haji Mohamed Ghazali bin Kuala Perlis yang berjumlah sa-ramai Haji Jawi: FAMA telah menjalankan 4,000 orang itu hingga sekarang ini ranchangan pemasaran padi di-negeri belum di-beri sa-barang projek atau Perlis mulai pada lhb Mach, 1967. bantuan untok meninggikan taraf Ranchangan ini berupa pengeluaran hidup mereka yang sa-makin hari sa­ lesen kapada pembeli2 padi dan me­ makin merosot. Jika sedar, apa-kah ngawal serta menyeliakan perusahaan projek yang akan di-lancharkan. pelesen2 ini. Setakat ini ranchangan FAMA di-Perlis ada-lah berjaya. Menteri Pertanian dan Sharikat Kerjasama (Tuan Haji Mohamed Berhubong dengan negeri Kedah, Ghamli bin Haji Jawi): Bilangan chadangan FAMA hendak melaksana­ nelayan di-Perlis yang sa-benar-nya ia­ kan satu ranchangan pemasaran padi lah 1,967 orang. Kerajaan Pusat ber­ dan beras di-negeri itu sudah pun di­ pendapat ia-itu untok meninggikan taraf umumkan dan menurut undang2 hidup nelayan2 tersebut, sikap mereka FAMA satu penyiasatan 'awam untok terhadap kemajuan perlu di-ubah. menimbang bangkangan2 yang di­ Chara tangkap untok menghasilkan kemukakan oleh pehak2 yang ber­ pengeluaran ikan yang lebeh banyak kenaan tentang ranchangan pemasaran dan pendapatan yang lebeh lumayan. itu di-kehendaki di-adakan. Penyia­ Tetapi hingga sekarang pehak Keraja­ satan 'awam ini telah pun di-adakan an Negeri Perlis maseh lagi tidak dapat pada 12hb dan 13hb September, 1967. menerima perusahaan Pukat Tunda Sekarang FAMA sedang menyusun sa-bagai satu chara perusahaan yang laporan2 yang tertentu untok di­ mesti di-jalankan oleh nelayan2 Perlis kemukakan kapada Y.B. Menteri Per­ jika sekira-nya taraf hidup mereka tanian dan Sharikat Kerjasama. 2607 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2608 SISTEM PEMBAHAGIAN BAJA satuan-Persatuan Peladang dan KAPADA PETANl2 DI-NEGERI Sharikat-Sharikat Kerjasama. PERAK, SEBERANG PRAI, KEDAH DAN PERLIS Pelaksanaan di-Kedah. 25. Tuan Haji Mokhtar bin Haji Bagi negeri Kedah peruntokan Ismail bertanya kapada Menteri Per­ bantuan tahunan-nya ia-lah sa-banyak tanian dan Sharikat Kerjasama bagai­ $600,000 tetapi jumlah ini hanya mana-kah sistem pembahagian baja chukup bagi bantuan baja untok satu­ kapada petani2 di-negeri Perak, pertiga jumlah luas kawasan per­ Seberang Perai, Kedah dan Perlis di­ sawahan dalam Negeri itu sahaja. jalankan. Pembahagian baja dalam Negeri itu ada-lah melalui tiga saloran: Tuan Haji Mohamed Ghazali bin (a) melalui Persatuan-Persatuan Pe­ Haji Jawi: Di-bawah Ranchangan ladang--di-mana ada Persatuan­ Malaysia Pertama 1966-1970, sa­ Persatuan Peladang, mereka di­ jumlah sa-banyak $10 juta telah di­ lantek menjadi wakil-wakil. peruntokkan bagi Ranchangan Bantuan Semua-nya ada 46 buah pusat Baja Padi di-Malaysia Barat. Jumlah pembahagian baja di-jalankan ini di-bahagikan di-antara 11 buah oleh P'ersatuan-Persatuan Pela­ Negeri mengikut luas kawasan per­ dang di-Daerah-Daerah per­ sawahan-nya. Tiap-tiap Negeri di­ sawahan dalam negeri Kedah; berikan peruntokan-nya dan masing­ masing akan mengator ranchangan (b) di-mana tiada Persatuan Pela­ pembahagian-nya sendiri. dang, wakil-wakil sendirian ada­ lah di-lantek; Prinsip-prinsip yang terlibat dalam (c) Sharikat-Sharikat Kerjasama gerakan Ranchangan Bantuan Baja hanya bertanggong-jawab mem­ Padi ini ada-lah sama pada garis besar­ bekalkan baja · bagi sa-buah ka­ nya di-semua Negeri-Negeri. Prinsip­ wasan persawahan kechil sa-luas prinsip ini ia-lah: lebeh kurang 3,000 ekar sahaja. (a) hanya penanam-penanam padi Baja-baja ini bukan-lah boleh di­ yang benar-benar jujur sahaja dapati sa-panjang tahun melainkan bagi yang akan di-beri baja dengan masa tiga bulan sahaja. Petani-petani harga yang di-perbantukan; ini di-beri penerangan lengkap berkenaan akan di-jalankan dengan menge­ dengan Ranchangan Bantuan Baja Padi luarkan kebenaran jualan (sales dan bagaimana chara-chara mendapat~ permit) kapada petani-petani itu kan-nya dengan harga yang di-per­ oleh Jabatan Pertanian; bantukan itu. Penerangan-penerangan (b) oleh kerana kekurangan kewa­ ini di-sampaikan kapada petani-petani ngan maka petani-petani itu melalui beberapa saloran saperti Jabat­ hanya di-benarkan membaja an Penerangan, Penghulu-penghulu atau seluas-luas-nya sa-banyak 5 ekar melalui Kenyataan-Kenyataan yang di­ sahaja; paparkan di-tempat-tempat yang senang (c) pelaksanaan bagi seluroh Ran­ di-lihat. changan ini ada-lah di-bawah pengelolaan sechara langsong Pelaksanaan di-negeri Perlis. Jabatan Pertanian di-Negeri Satu banchian di-jalankan pada tiap­ masing-masing; tiap tahun berkenaan dengan semua (~ stokis-stokis di-lantek di'-dalam petani-petani yang berkehendakkan kawasan-kawasan persawahan; bantuan baja padi. Banchian ini di­ lantekan-lantekan itu di-buat jalankan oleh Ketua-Ketua Kampong dengan kelulusan Jabatan Per­ di-bawah arahan Penghulu-penghulu. tanian; Bantuan ini di-hadk;an untok per­ (e) sa-bagai stokis-stokis, keutamaan sawahan sa-luas-luas-nya 5 ekar sahaja. ada-lah di-beri kapada badan­ Petaili-petani yang layak mendapatkan badan terutama sekali Per- bantuan baja padi .ini akan di-beri . 2609 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2610 karchis (coupon) oleh Pembantu Per­ kan bekalan baja kapada Sharikat­ tanian Muda. Karchis ini di-beri untok Sharikat Kerjasama dalam Negeri itu. membolehkan petani-petani itu mem­ beli baja padi dengan harga yang di­ Ahli-ahli Sharikat2 Kerjasama dan perbantukan dan juga untok mendapat Persatuan-Persatuan Peladang ada-lah kembali daripada Kerajaan ganti harga di-beri keutamaan mendapatkan ban·· baja yang di-perbantukan oleh badan­ tuan baja ini; petani-petani yang bukan badan perniagaan yang berjaya men­ ahli hanya akan mendapat bekalan dapat tawaran membekal baja. bantuan baja ini apabila bekalan untok Sharikat-Sharikat Kerjasama dan Per­ Persatuan-Persatuan Peladang telah satuan-Persatuan Peladang telah di­ di-lantek sa-bagai pembahagi-pem­ penohi. bahagi tunggal baja tahun 1967. Wakil­ wakil rendah atau pusat-pusat pem­ Sharikat-Sharikat Kerjasama, Per. bahagi ada-lah di-lantek dengan satuan-Persatuan Peladang dan petani­ kelulusan Jabatan P'ertanian. Semua­ petani yang bukan ahli sa-telah nya ada sa-banyak 22 buah wakil­ menerima karchis-karchis bantuan baja wakil pembahagi dalam negeri Perlis. daripada Jabatan Pertanian, akan pergi mendapatkan bekalan baja itu daripada Pelaksarraan di-Perak. stokis-stokis masing-masing. Mereka Penjualan baja ada-lah dengan hendak-lah memberikan karchis-karchis kebenaran jualan yang di-tandatangani masing-masing. Mereka hendak-lah oleh pembeli dan di-sahkan oleh memberikan karchis-karchis bantuan Penghulu dan sa-orai;ig pegawai dari baja kapada stokis-stokis itu dan Jabatan Pertanian. Peratoran ini d:­ membayarkan 70 peratus daripada buat untok menjamin bahawa pembeii harga biasa, ia-itu bahagian harga itu betul-betul penanam padi yang yang b!!-ki daripada harga di-perbantu­ jujur. Kebenaran-kebenaran jualan ini kan, atau memberi surat jaminan mengandongi penerangan-penerangan (Guarantee Chits) yang di-keluarkan saperti nama dan 'alamat pembeli. di-bawah Ranchangan Kredit Baja Nombor Lot dan luas sawah, jenis baja Padi Neg,eri-sa-bagai jaminan Qahawa dan banyak-nya di-kehendaki. jumlah wang yang terchatet dalam surat Stokis-stokis di-lantek di-pusat-pusat jaminan itu akan di-bayar oleh Kerajaan Negeri di-bawah Ranchangan y~ng senang di-datangi dalam semua kawasan-kawasan persawahan. Semua­ Kredit. nya ada 12 stokis di-Perak Tengah, 12 stokis di-Perak Utara dan 3 stokis di­ Ranchangan Kredit Baja Padi Negeri Perak Selatan. ini telah di-lancharkan dalam tahun 1961 dan Kerajaan Negeri telah Pelaksanaan di-Pulau Pinang dan menguntokkan sa-banyak $300,000 Seberang Perai. sa-bagai modal pusingan bagi menge­ luarkan pinjaman jangka pendek Pembahagian bantuan baja kapada kapada Sharikat-Sharikat Kerjasama petani-petani ada-lah di-jalankan me­ dan Persatuan-Persatuan Peladang lalui stokis-stokis yang terdapat di­ untok membeli baja padi. kawasan-kawasan penanaman padi. Semua-nya ada 20 stokis berselerak di­ Di-bawah Ranchangan ini Sharikat­ kawasan-kawasan persawahan-tiap­ Sharikat Kerjasama di-beri 100 pe­ tiap satu untok kawasan sa-luas lebeh ratus pinjaman dan Persatuan-Per­ kurang 2,000 ekar. Ada-lah menjadi satuan Peladang 50 peratus pinjaman amalan dalam negeri Pulau Pinang dengan faedah perchuma, di-bayar m~lantek stokis-stokis daripada pega­ balek dalam tempoh sa-bulan selepas wai-pegawai atau ahli2 Persatuan­ Persatuan Peladang. menuai. Persatuan Sharikat Kerjasama Seberang Perai telah di-lantek oleh Selain daripada 20 stokis itu, Bank Kerajaan Negeri menjadi Wakil untok Persatuan Kerjasama, Seberang Perai membayar balek hutang-hutang dan ada-lah juga di-lantek sa-bagai stokis bertanggong-jawab mengutip segala semata-mata dengan tujuan mengurus- baki-baki hutang itu. 2612 2611 13 NOVEMBER 1967 SARAW AIOAN FOR THE POST sedar bahawa Perusahaan Filem OF CONTROLLER OF BROAD· Wayang Gambar Malaysia pada masa CASTING IN SARAWAK ini hampir2 di-monopoli oleh badan2 perusahaan yang tertentu sahaja: jika 26. Tuan Edmund Langgu anak Sap sedar: asks the Minister of Information and Broadcasting when a Sarawakian will (a) ada-kah beliau bersedia menolong badan2 perusahaan yang kechil fill the post of Controller of Broad­ 2 casting in Sarawak. untok mengatasi tekanan luar, berupa modal, pasaran dan lain2, Menteri Peneranpn clan Penyiaran atau pun (Tuan Senn bin Abdul Rahman): The (b) ada-kah Kerajaan akan menim­ present Controller of Radio in Sarawak bang menghapuskan sistem mono­ is a State Officer and has been in the poli dalam Perusahaan Filem ~'--;;;:: Department long before the formation Wayang Gambar dengan menjadi­ of Malaysia. When Malaysia came into kan Filem Negara sa-bagai satu being and the expatriate head of the Perbadanan Filem Wayang Gam­ department left, the present incumbent bar dengan di-modali oleh Ke­ was promoted to the post, being the rajaan serta orang2 ramai, jika most senior local officer. tidak, mengapa. ~ It must be understood that the Depart­ ment of Radio in Sarawak is a Federal Tuan Senn bin Abdul Rahman: Department and as such appointment Saya memang sedar bahawa Perusahaan to the service is opened to all Malay­ Filem Wayang Gambar Malaysia sians and not restricted to residents of hampir2 di-monopoli oleh badan2 per­ a particular State. My Ministry however usahaan yang tertentu saperti yang di­ gives preference to local people with katakan oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat itu : the necessary qualifications. (a~ Saya memang bersedia menolong badan2 perusahaan yang kechil "" t REPRESENTATIVES FROM untok mengatasi apa yang di­ SABAH AND SARAWAK ON THE katakan "tekanan2 luar, berupa BOARD OF GOVERNORS OF modal, pasaran dan lain2" itu. BERNAMA Kementerian saya dan saya sendiri 27. Tuan Edmund Langgn anak Saga telah mengkaji perkara perusaha­ asks the Minister of Information and an filem ini. Hingga masa ini Broadcasting to state whether there are yang boleh saya terangkan ia-lah any newspaper representatives from bahawa saya telah berhubong Sabah, Sarawak sitting as members of dengan kedua2 sharikat pengeluar­ the Board of Governors of BERNAMA an Filem yang terbesar untok news agency, and if not, why. mendapatkan kerjasama mereka. Suka saya menegaskan bahawa Tuan Senn bin Abdul Rahman: mereka telah memberi jaminan The Constitution of BERNAMA pro­ untok menolong perusahaan2 vides for the appointment of six news­ kechil ini sa-berapa yang dapat. paper representatives to sit as members (b) Mengenai sama ada Kerajaan of the Board of Governors. At present akan menimbangkan untok men­ only 5 of those appointments have been jadikan Filem Negara sa-bagai made and it is my intention to invite a satu Perbadanan Filem dengan di­ newspaper representative from East modali oleh Kerajaan dan orang Malaysia to be also on the Board when ramai, perkara ini Kementerian BERNAMA becomes fully operational. saya sedang membuat kajian2 tentang bagaimana Filem Negara PERUSAHAAN FILEM WAYANG yang ada sekarang dapat memain­ GAMBAR MALAYSIA kan peranan yang lebeh besar 28. Toan Abdul Razak bin Haji dengan mengeluarkan bukan Hussin bertanya kapada Menteri Peoe­ sahaja filem2 "documentary" rangan dan Penyiaran ada-kah beliau tetapi juga filem2 "feature" yang 2613 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2614 pada masa ini sangat2 berkurang­ Mr Speaker: As Honourable Mem­ an. Dengan itu juga kita dapat bers are aware, this question has been membantu artist2 kita yang tidak the subject of two oral questions this mendapat peluang di-tempat lain morning. Be that as it may, the Honour­ meneruskan bakat dan kebolehan able Member has the right to raise this mereka. under Standing Order 18. However, the subject must be definite, of public Sitting suspended at 11.30 a.m. importance and urgent. I am of the opinion that these three criteria set out Sitting resumed Qt 11.50 a.m. under the Standing Order are not com­ plied with, being that it is not so urgent, (Mr Speaker in the Chair) leaving the other two. In view of the fact that notice has also been given by LEAVE FOR ADJOURN­ the Honourable Member to bring a motion on the same subject, I am not MENT OF THE HOUSE prepared to give him leave to proceed UNDER STANDING with this motion. He will nave the ORDER 18 opportunity to raise the matter again in the ordinary course by way of a motion (MOTION) under Standing Order 27. (Appointment of Enche' Abdul Rahman bin Haji Talib as Ambassador Dr Lim Chong Eu: Mr Speaker, Sir, may I crave your indulgence to ask that Dr Lim 0.ong Eu (Tanjoog): Mr the motion standing in my name on the Speaker, Sir, under Standing Order 18, Order Paper will indeed be discussed I rise to move that this House do now during this meeting of the House before, adjourn to discuss a definite matter of at least, the Honourable appointee, our urgent public importance. In view of Ambassador-designate, is sent abroad? the fact that the Honourable Prime Minister, in his reply to my oral ques­ Mr Speaker: Well, it is on the Order tion, has announced that the Govern­ Paper. I am not so entirely in control ment has no intention of rescinding the of the time of Parliament as to be able appointment of Enche' Abdul Rahman to assure you, but it is on the Order Talib as Malaysia's Ambassador to the Paper and in the normal course of United Arab Republic and the Republic event it will come up. of Morocco, I consider that a definite matter of urgent public importance has arisen, particularly also in view of the BILLS PRESENTED fact that the Honourable Prime Minister did not satisfactorily reply to other THE TERRITORIAL WATERS aspects of my question. BILL Rang Undang2 bagi membuat per­ Such an appointment, Sir, will be untokan berkenaan dengan Persem­ detrimental to our national interests padanan Perayeran Wilayah Malaysia; both at home and abroad. At home, di-kemukakan oleh Menteri Kewangan; in Malaysia, this appointment will be bachaan kali yang pertama; akan di­ equivalent to interfering with the course bachakan kali yang kedua pada masa of justice as well as making a mockery yang akan datang. of our Judiciary, 1,1.nd it will suborn our people's national effort to make a better THE NATIONAL SERVICE society, in particular in their fight (AMENDMENT) BILL against corruption. Abroad, this appointment Will be tantamount to Bill to amend the National Service insulting our friends, the United Arab Ordinance, 1952; presented by the Par­ Republic and the Republic of Morocco, liamentary Secretary to the Deputy and it will also make our diplomatic Prime Minister; read the first time; to service a subject of ridicule throughout _, be read a second time at a subsequent the world. sitting of this House. 2615 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2616 THE BANKING (AMENDMENT) mE REGISTRATION OF BILL BUSINESSES (AMENDMENT) BILL Bill to amend the Banking Ordinance. Bill to amend the Registration of 1958; presented by the Assistant Businesses Ordinance, 1956; presented Minister of Finance; read the first time; by the Assistant Minister of Finance; to be read a second time at a subsequent read the first time; to be read a second meeting of the House. time at a subsequent sitting of the House. THE ASIAN DEVELOPMENT BANK (AMENDMENT) BILL mE CENTRAL BANK OF MALAYSIA (AMENDMENT) BILL Bill to amend the Asian Development Bank Act, 1966; presented by the Bill to amend the Central Bank of Malaysia Ordinance, 1958; presented --·~ Assistant Minister of Finance; read the by the Assistant Minister of Finance; first time; to be read a second time at read the first time; to be read a second a subsequent sitting of the House. time at a subsequent meeting of the mE SUPPLEMENTARY SUPPLY House. (1966) (No. 2) BILL mE ROAD TRAFFIC Bill to apply sums out of the Consoli­ (AMENDMENT) (No. 2) BILL dated Fund for additional expenditure Rang Undang2 pindaan Lalu-Lintas. for the service of the year 1966 and to 1958; di-kemukakan oleh Menteri appropriate such sums for certain pur­ Pengangkutan; bachaan kali yang per­ poses; presented by the Assistant tama; akan di-bachakan kali yang Minister of Finance; read the first time; kedua pada masa yang akan datang. to be read a second time at a sub­ sequent sitting of the House. mE MEDICAL REGISTRATION (SARAWAK) (AMENDMENT) BILL mE CONSOLIDATED FUND (EXPENDITURE ON ACCOUNT) Bill to amend the Medical Registration Ordinance, Cap. 112, of Sarawak; BILL presented by the Minister of Health; Bill to apply a sum out of the Con­ read the first time; to be read a second solidated Fund to the Service of the time at a subsequent sitting of the year ending on the thirty-first day of House. December, 1968; presented by the Assistant Minister of Finance; read the MOTIONS first time; to be read a second time at a subsequent sitting of the House. THE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN COMMON TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 mE INCOME TAX The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) (Amendment) Order, 1967 (AMENDMENT) BILL ....., Bill to amend the Income Tax Act, The Parliamentary Secretary to the 1967; presented by the Assistant Minis­ Minister of Finance (Tuan Ali bin ter of Finance; read the first time; to Haji Ahmad): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, be read a second time at a subsequent saya mohon menchadangkan: sitting of the House. Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) mE PETROLEUM (INCOME sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama TAX) (AMENDMENT) BILL Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan), 1967, yang Bill to amend the Petroleum (Income telah di-bentangkan dalam Dewan ini sa­ Tax) Act, 1967; presented by the bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 108 tahun 1967, Assistant Minister of Finance; read the di-sahkan. first time; to be read a second time at Perentah Kastam ini meminda kadar2 a subsequent sitting of the House. chukai yang di-kenakan di-atas barang2 2617 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2618 yang di-perjeniskan di-bawah Tarif Tarif Kod 112 411 dan 112 418 patut Koci 655 500, 841 410 dan 899 399. di-keluarkan daripada Jadual Pertama Kadar2 chukai bagi barang2 ini telah kapada Perentah Chukai Kastam di-pinda apabila sahaja Perentah Kas­ (Kechualian) (Barang2 asal daripada tam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia), 1967 Malaysia), 1966. Mengikut penyata di-terbitkan dalam W arta Kerajaan dan yang di-terbitkan oleh Lembaga Pena­ oleh kerana kesuntokan masa, maka sihat Tarif, kemasokan "samsoo" dari­ tidak dapat-lah di-masokkan barang2 pada Malaysia Barat ka-Malaysia ini yang juga menjadi barang2 tarif Timor dengan tiada membayar chukai bersama · ka-dalam Perentah tersebut. tidak-lah boleh di-buat pada masa ini, Perentah yang sekarang di-bentangkan kerana kadar2 chukai eksais ada-lah di-dalam Dewan ini hanya membetul­ berbeza di-Malaysia Barat, Sabah dan kan kadar2 chukai bagi barang2 itu Sarawak. dan ini berkuatkuasa mulai daripada Penyiasatan itu juga menunjokkan tarikh Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama bahawa perlindongan tarif yang di-beri Malaysia), 1967 berjalan kuatkuasa sekarang sa-banyak perbezaan daripada ia-itu lOhb Ogos, 1967. kadar chukai impot, dan kadar chukai Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon eksais tidak-lah bagitu chukup ter• supaya usul ini di-luluskan. utama sa-kali di-Malaysia Barat dan Lembaga Penasihat Tarif mengeshor­ The Parliamentary Secretary to the kan bahawa kadar chukai impot di­ naikkan hingga $40 pada, tiap2 satu Deputy Prime Minister (Tuan Chen 2 W~ Sum): Tuan Yang di-Pertua, gelen bagi seluroh Malaysia. Barang saya sokong. yang di-impot di-bawah Tarif Koci 112 303 dan 112 412 juga di-kenakan kadar Question put, and agreed to. chukai ini. Perentah yang ada di­ hadapan Dewan ini ada-lah untok Resolved, melaksanakan shor2 Lembaga Penasihat Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan Tarif. bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama supaya usul ini di-luluskan. Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan), 1967, yang Tuan Chen Wing Sum: Tuan Yang telah di-bentangkan dalam Dewan ini sa­ bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 108 tahun 1967, di-Pertua, saya sokong. di-sahkan. Question put, and agreed to. IBE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN Resolved, COMMON TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order, 1967 sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad Tuan Yang Bersama Malaysia) {Pindaan) (No. 2), 1967, di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadangkan, yang telah di-bentangkan dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 124 tahun Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan 1967, di-sahkan. bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama IBE CUSTOMS ORDINANCE, 1952 Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 2), 1967, The CastonlS Duties (Amendment) (No. 13) yang telah di-bentangkan dalam Dewan ini Order, 1967 sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 124 tahun 1967, di-sahkan. Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadang­ Satu penyiasatan awam telah di­ kan: lakukan oleh Lembaga Penasihat Tarif Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan awal tahun ini untok menyiasat dan bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri melaporkan sama ada "samsoo" ter­ kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (2) sekshen 10, Undang2 Kastam, 1952, Perentah masok "medicated samsoo" dan lain2 Chukai2 Kastam (Pindaan) (No. 13) 1967, minuman yang di-perjeniskan di-bawah yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan 2619 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2620 ini sa-bagai Kertas Un:dang2 No. 125 tahun Resolved, 1967, di-sahkan. Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapap. Perentah ini ada-lah melaksanakan bahawa mengikut kuasa2· yang telah di-beti shor2 penyata Lembaga Penasihat Tarif kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (3) berkenaan dengan "samsoo" dan lain2 sekshen 8, Undang2 Kastam Sabah (Bab. 33), 2 Perentah Chukai2 Kastam (Sabah) (Pindaan) minuman, khas-nya pada barang yang (No.· 13) 1967, yang telah di-bentangkan di­ di-perjeniskan di-bawah Tarif Kod 112 dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 411 ia-itu "samsoo', satu minuman No. 126 tahun 1967, di-sahkan. yang telah pun di-jadikan barang tarif bersama. Kadar chukai bagi minuman THE SARAWAK CUSTOMS ini telah pun di-naikkan daripada ORDINANCE (CAP. 26) 2 $34.00 hingga $40.00 pada tiap satu The Customs (Import and Export) Duties gelen kerana kadar yang ada sekarang (Amendment) (No. 13) Order, 1967 ini di-fikirkan tidak memberi perlin­ Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang dongan yang chukup kapada per~ usahaan minuman keras. di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadangkan: Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon bahaw11 mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri supaya usul ini di-luluskan. kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (3) sekshen 8, Undang2 Kastam Sarawak (Bab 26), Perentah Chukai2 Kastam (lmpot dan Tuan Chen Wing Som: Sir, I beg to Eksepot) (Pindaan) (No. 13) 1967, yang telah second the motion. di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 127 tahun 1967, di­ Question put, and agreed to. sahkan. Resolved, Perentah ini ada-lah sama dengan Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan Perentah Chukai2 Kastam (Pindaan) bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri (No 13), 1967 bagi Malaysia Barat, kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (2) sekshen 10, Undang2 Kastam, 1952, Perentah melainkan ia di-kenakan kapada negeri Chukai2 Kastam (Pindaan) (No. 13) 1967) Sarawak sahaja. yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Ker!as Undang2 No. 125 tahun 1967, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohort di-sahkan. supaya usul ini di-luluskan. mE SABAH CUSTOMS Toan Chen Wing Som: Sir, I beg to ORDINANCE (CAP. 33) second. The Customs Duties (Sabah) (Amendment) Question put, and agreed to. (No. 13) Order, 1967 Resolved, Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadangkan: bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (3) bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri sekshen 8, Undang2 Kastam Sarawak (Bab kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (3) 26), Perentah Chukai2 Kastam (lmpot dan sekshen 8, Undang2 Kastam Sabah (Bab 33), Eksepot) (Pindaan) (No. 13) 1967, yang telab Perentah Chukai2 Kastam (Sabah) (Pindaan) di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai (No. 13) 1967, yang telah di-bentangkan Kertas Undang2 No. 127 tahun 1967, di­ di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 sahkan. No. 126 tahun 1967, di-sahkan. THE EXCISE ACT, 1961 Perentah ini ada-lah sama dengan Perentah Chukai2 Kastam (Pindaan) The Excise Duties (Amendment) (No. 3) (No. 13), 1967 bagi Malaysia Barat Order, 1967 melainkan ia di-kenakan pada negeri Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang Sabah sahaja. di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadangkan: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan supaya usul ini di-luluskan. bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-berj. kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (2) sekshen 7, Undang2 Eksais, 1961, Perentah Tuan Chen Wing Sum: Sir, I beg to Chukai2 Eksais (Pindaan) (No. 3) 1967, second the motion. yang. telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 128 tabun Question put, and agreed to. 1967, di-sahkan. 2621 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2622 Perentah ini ada-Iah melaksanakan Tuan l·brahim bin Abdul Rahman: shor2 penyata Lembaga Penasihat Ta­ Tuan Yang di-Pert_,a, saya mohon rif berkenaan dengan "samsoo" khas­ menyokong usul ini. nya shor2 berkaitan dengan chukai eksais. Kadar chukai eksais bagi "sam­ Question put, and agreed to. soo" telah pun di-turunkan daripada $31.00 kapada $30.00 pada tiap2 satu Resolved, gelen. lni ada-lah merupakan ganti rugi Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan sa-bahagian bagi penarekan kechualian bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (2) chukai di-atas gula yang di-buat tidak sekshen 3, Undang2 Eksais, Sabah No. 18 lama dahulu. tahun 1959, Perentah Cbnkail Eksais (Pindaan) (No. 2) 1967, yang telah di­ bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon Kertas Undang2 No. 129 tahun 1967, di­ supaya usul ini di-luluskan. sahkan. Toan Chen Wing Sum: Sir, I beg to mE EXCISE ORDINANCE, second the motion. SARAWAK (CAP. 27) The Excise Duties (Amendment) (No. 2) Question put, and agreed to. Order, 1967 Resolved, Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadangkan: bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (2) bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri sekshen 7, Undang2 Eksais, 1961, Perentah kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (2) Chukai2 Eksais (Pindaan) (No. 3) 1967, yang sekshen 3, Undang2 Eksais, Sarawak (Bab telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa­ 27), Perentah Chukai2 Eksais (Pindaan) bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 128 tahun 1967, (No. 2) 1967, yang telah di-bentangkan di·

,~ di-sahkan. dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 130 tahun 1967, di-sahkan. mE EXCISE ORDINANCE, SABAD No. 18 OF 1959 Perentah ini ada-lah melaksanakan shor2 penyata Lembaga Penasihat Ta­ The Excise Duties (Amendment) (No. 2) rif berkenaan dengan "samsoo" khas­ Order, 1967 nya shor2 berkenaan dengan chukai ek­ Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang sais di-negeri Sarawak. Sa-bagaimana di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadangkan: tuan ma'alum, chukai eksais telah pun Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan di-naikkan daripada $17.00 hingga bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri $20.00 pada tiap2 satu gelen. Chukai kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (2) sekshen 3, Undang2 Eksais, Sabah No. 18 ini akan di-samakan dengan chukai di­ tahun 1959, Perentah Chukai2 Eksais Malaysia Barat pada satu masa kelak. (Pindaan) (No. 2) 1967, yang telah di­ bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon Kertas Undang2 No. 129 tahun 1967, di­ sahkan. supaya usul ini di-luluskan. Perentah ini ada-lah melaksanakan Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: shor2 penyata Lembaga Penasihat Ta- Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon rif berkenaan dengan "samsoo" khas- menyokong usul ini. nya berkaitan dengan chukai eksais di­ negeri Sabah. Kadar chukai eksais telah Question put, and agreed to. pun di-naikkan daripada $18.00 ka­ pada $20.00 pada tiap2 satu gelen. Resolved, Chukai ini akan di-samakan dengan Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri chukai Malaysia Barat sa-banyak $30.00 kapada-nya di-bawah pecbahan-sekshen (2) tiap2 satu gelen pada satu masa kelak. sekshen 3, Undang2 Eksais, Sarawak (Bab 27), Perentah Chukai2 Eksais (Pindaan) Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon (No. 2) 1967, yang telah di-bentangkan di­ dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 ~upaya usul ini di-luluskan. No. 130 tahun 1967, di-sahkan. 2623 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2624 THE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN Tuan Geh Chong Keat: Boleh di­ COMMON TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 champor2kan sadikit. The Customs (Malaysian Common Tarilfs) Mr Speaker: Usul yang sudah di­ (Amendment) (No. 3) Order, 1967 sahkan tak usah lagi-lah berchakap; Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahinad: Tuan Yang usul yang akan datang-lah chakap. di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadangkan supaya Dewan ini mengambil kete­ Tuan Geh Chong Keat: U sul ini tapan: belum di-sahkan lagi. ., Bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di­ '" Mr Speaker:' ' Usul yang akan datang beri kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-~eltllhen (4) seks)len 2, Undafig2 Kastam (Tarif Ber­ belum di-bentangkan lagi oleh Menteri sahla Malaysia) ' 1966, Perentah Kastam Muda. Nanti dahulu, sabar-lah, dudok. (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 3) 1967, yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam THE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 131 tahun 1967, di-sahkan. COMMON TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 Perentah yang ada di-hadapan De­ The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) (Extension to Penang) (Amendment) wan ini di-buat untok mengumpul se­ Order, 1967 mua barang yang kadar2 chukai­ nya telah di-samakan di-Malaysia Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang baharu2 ini. Oleh kerana barang2 itu di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadang­ telah di-samakan kadar chukai-nya kan supaya Dewan ini mengambil maka sekarang barang2 ini di-senarai­ ketetapan: kan di-bawah satu Perentah Kastam Bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di­ Tarif Bersama Malaysia. beri kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Ber­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon sama Malaysia) 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) (Lanjutan kapada menchadangkan supaya usul ini di­ Pulau Pinang) (Pindaan) 1967, yang telah luluskan. di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 132 tahun 1967, di­ Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahinan: sahkan. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon menyokong. Perentah yang ada di-hadapan Dewan ini di-buat untok mengumpul Question put, and agreed to. semua barang2 yang mana kadar2 chukai2-nya telah di-lanjutkan kapada :Resolved, Pulau Pinang melalui pemberitahu 'tiahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di­ Undang2 No. 216 bertarikh 18hb Mei, beri kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen 1967. Barang2 ini telah di-masokkan (4) sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Ber­ 2 sama Malaysia) 1966, Perentah Kastam ka-dalam Perentah ini kerana barang (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 3) ini ada-lah barang2 yang di-kenakan 1967, yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam chukai bersama di-seluroh Malaysia. Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 131 tahun 1967. . Tuan Geh Cho . Tuan Yang di-Pertua Sir, I would 11"ke ngto Keat.speak. Mr Speaker• supaya usul ini di -lul us k' an.saya mohon Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya menyo­ Mr Speaker: Kalau chakap Melayu kong. boleh-lah. Tuan Geb Chong Keat: Mr Speaker, Tuan Geh Chong Keat: Tuan Yang Sir, I would like to seek a clarification di-Pertua, sa-bagai Bill ini, jika saya from the Honourable Parliamentary berchakap dalam bahasa kebangsaan Secretary to the Minister of Finance in saya minta-lah, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, respect of "Tariff Code No. 719 226-Fans, blowers, and the like, whether or not having an integral Mr Speaker: Hendak chakap atas electric motor, not designed for apa ini, atas usul yang mana? Usul domestic use". Could the Honourable yang telah di-sahkan tadi? Parliamentary Secretary please oblige 2625 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2626 me with a clarification on the exact especially the Minister of Commerce type of equipment or parts this refers and Industry and the Minister of to, before I speak on the other Finance, that when restriction was subjects? imposed on the importation of pencils there was a hue and cry by school Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan children, especially from parents who Yang di-Pertua, perkara yang di­ have got to dish out the money to hadapan kita inj ia-lah meletakkan pay for the pencils. Sir, "B" type semua barang2 yang telah sama chu­ pencils suddenly went under the coun­ kai-nya itu ka-dalam satu senarai dan ter and there was a shortage in the perkara yang di-timbulkan oleh Ahli market and the price went up due to Yang Berhormat sa-bentar tadi tidak black-marketing. I understand that at timbul di-dalam usul ini. that time the manufacturers could not even produce sufficient "B" type pen­ Mr Speaker: Macham mana, dia cils and the graphite had to be impor­ kata tidak timbul, Yang Berhormat ted by air freight in order to meet the kata timbul, baik chakap Melayu-lah local demand, because at that time the senang sadikit, chakap orang puteh itu school children were sitting for their susah, dia itu pun tidak faham nam­ examinations, and the L.C.E. Exami­ pak-nya. nation was such that they had to have "B" type pencils to shade the Tuan Gell Chong Keat: Mr Speaker, answers for the electronic computer. Sir, ..... Therefore, in view of what we have experienced in this country and Mr Speaker: Chakap Melayu-lah. because of the thousands of school­ going children whose parents have got Tuan Geh Chong Keat: Mr Speaker, to foot the bill, may I request the Sir, I think the Parliamentary Secre­ Minister, especially under the item of tary is an Economics graduate and I "Pencils", to reduce the import duty think he is quite proficient in in general from 3 cents to one cent, English. As a matter of precautionary because of their educational value? measure, I seek your permission to The pencils contribute to the progress speak in English in order to put the of the intelligence of the children, so record straight in respect of what I that they can make a better contribu­ enquired of him. I only seek clarifica­ tion towards the country when they tion as to whether fractional motors grow up, and these pencils form an come within this prescription. Frac­ essential part in their education. tional motors mean motors with smaller horse-power. Dr Ng Kam Poh: Tuan Yang di­ Pertua, boleh-kah saya beruchap Dr Lim Swee Aun: Mr Speaker, Sir, dalam bahasa lnggeris? item 719 421 is not included in the motion for debate at the moment. It is Mr Speaker: Ya. included in Statute Paper 131 which has already been approved. What we Dr Ng Kam Poh: Mr Speaker, Sir, are dealing with is Statute Paper 132. on the question of pencils, even and 719 421 is not included there. though brought up at this point, I would like to point out to the Honour­ Mr Speaker: Faham-kah? able Member from Penang Utara that there are sufficient pencils going Tuan Geh Chong Keat: Mr Speaker, around in this country. If the various Sir, then I wish to speak under the traders wish to stock them and not to item "pencils" on which an import release them for sale in the hope of duty of 3 cents has been imposed. I am getting prices up that is business to speaking on this subject in general, not them. I can assure the Honourable only protesting against the import duty Member from statistics tliat there are being imposed on these pencils on enough pencils both in Malaysia and their importation into the island of in Penang. However, once there is a Penang. Sir, you all must be aware, Tariff increase, somebody stocks the • !6!7 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2628 "~, pendtl!.,,'attd refuses to sell. hoping that and this question of tariff protection of the price will go up. But, this is not 3 cents per pencil has been the result of the situation. From our statistics, there such an investigation and has been are sufficient pencils in the whole of accepted by the Government. However, Malaysia and in Penang. The question we do know that sometimes, owing to is whether the traders are going to unforseen circumstances, as has hap­ stock or are going to sell them. I pened recently in the case of "B" pen­ understand the position in Penang, but cils, because of the sudden demand let us be fair to the traders as a whole there could be the possibility of a sud­ and let us be fair to the manufacturers den shortage, and hence this question as a whole. Let us have faith in them. of exploitation by certain distributors. I can assure the Honourable Member Tuan Geh Chong Keat: Mr Speaker, and this House that the Government is Sir, since the Honourable Assistant always on the look out for unjustified Minister has informed the House that manipulations in the retail prices of he has statistics to prove that there are products manufactured in this country. ample stocks of pencils and manufac­ and I can at>sure this House too that turers are producing sufficient pencils Government will take action to take to cover the need of the school chil­ away such protection, if it is abused, as dren in this country, may I have the has happened in the case of cement. pleasure of requesting for those statis­ tics? As we have learnt through Tuan Gelb Chong Keat: May I seek experience, when we have issued a clarification again from the statement pioneer status to a factory, a form of of the Minister of Commerce and In­ monopoly has been created and the dustry? The Minister of Commerce price of the commodity tends to go up and Industry gave an assurance that he in such a way that the parents are very would see that there is no exploitation adversely affected. Therefore, in this and that he would not hesitate to recall case, especially in pencils, I am asking the pioneer certificate granted to a '"~ whether the Assistant Minister of factory. Now, arising, out of the Minis­ Finance and the Minister of Com­ ter of Commerce and Industry's state­ merce and Industry can give us an ment in opening factories, he used to assurance that any educational appara­ give assurance that the price would be tus, articles, or stationery, which are stabilised. However, at the recent open­ used for education and used in ing of a factory in Prai, i.e. the Malaya­ enormous quantity by our school­ wata Steel Factory, the Minister re­ going children, the prices would be peated that assurance, but what has under constant review and control, in happened since then? The price of steel order to prevent monopolistic trade has gone up from $320 to $390 a ton exploitation of the school-going chil­ and it is expected to go up to beyond dren in particular. Thank you, Sir. $440 per ton. Thank you. Dr Lim Swee Aun: I would like to Dr Lim Swee Aun: In the case of assure this House that it is not the the price of steel, that depends on the intention and policy of the Govern­ cost of production in that if the cost of ment to encourage monopoly in manu­ production is high, then the retail price facturing or monopoly in business. We is high. But before any company is believe in free enterprise. However, given pioneer status the Ministry as well when a factory seeks protection it app­ as the Government, all the Ministries ears before the Tariff Advisory Board concerned, do go into what is the pro­ who examines the situation carefully jected cost of production, and if it is and on this Tariff Advisory Board are considered that that factory contributes members of the public, members of the to the national interest, then it gets the consuming agencies and even the Mem­ pioneer status, even though its retail ber for Batu is· one of the temporary price may be slightly higher than the members on this Board. So, this Tariff imported price. Otherwise, we will Advisory Board does look into all the never get any industries in this country. angles before they make any advice or recommendation to the Government, Question put, and agreed to. 2629 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2630 ·Res'11ved, Finance in particular. I notice that in Supii.ya Dewan ini mengambil . ketetapan introducing this Bill the Parliamentary bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di·beri Secretary gave a description of fish oil, kapada-nya di-bawa,)1 pechahan-sekshen (4) but according to this Paper here we see sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif only the code numbers. So, I am going Bersama Malaysia) (Lanjutan kapada Pulau to make a particular request whether Pinang) (Pindaan) 1967, yang telah di­ we could be issued with these Code bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Tariffs like other documents supplied Kertas Undang2 No. 132 tahun 1967, di- sahkan. · to Members of Parliament, so that we can follow. THE CUSTOMS ORDINANCE, 1952 Mr Speaker: What Bill you are The Customs Duties (Amendment) (No. 14) talking about? This is a Motion. Order, 1967 Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang Tuan Geh Chong Keat: Sir, I mean di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadangkan: this Motion. The items concerned are all in Tariff Code numbers. So, we do Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri not know what is going on, except at kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (2) the introduction when we know the sekshen 10, Undang2 Kastam 1952, perentah article that the Minister is referring to. Chtikai2 Kastam (Pindaan) (No. 14), 1967 yang telah di-bentangkan dalam Dewan ini Mr Speaker: I am afraid I cannot sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 145 tahun 1967, di-sahkan. follow you at all. Will you t?lease be explicit? What is your objection? Rayuan telah di-terima oleh Yang Berhormat Menteri Kewangan daripada Tuan Geh Chong Keat: I have no sa-buah sharikat memohon supaya objection, but I am commenting on the kechualian chukai di-beri di-atas Statute Papers that are presented to us. "bulk cod liver oil" yang di-gunakan Mr Speaker, Sir, if you read Statute untok membuat "cod liver oil capsules". Paper No.· 132, they are all in Tariff "Cod liver in bulk" yang di­ Code numbers. The numbers have been perjeniskan di-bawah Tarif Kod No. supplied, but not the definition of the 411 100 di-kenakan chukai sa-banyak items. So, I am requesting, for simpli­ 25 % ia-ini Chukai Penoh dan Chukai fication of the matter for debate in the Istimewa di-Malaysia Barat. Minyak House whether we could each be given ikan yang di-gunakan untok peru­ a Tariff Code Book, so that the Minis­ batan mithal-nya dalam "capsules" di­ ters could save time in introducing the perjeniskan dalam Tarif Kod No. 541 subject, as by seeing the Codes in there 700 dan di-kenakan chukai sa-banyak we could participate in the debate if we 25% ia-ini Chukai Penoh dan Chukai so wanted. Istimewa. Ada-lah di-fikirkan baharu "re-packing of cod liver oils in cap­ Tuan Ali bin Haji · Ahmad: The sules" patut di-galakkan di-negeri ini Honourable Member is talking about dan Perentah yang ada di-hadapan Statute Paper No. 132, but we are now Dewan ini yang menurunkan kadar discussing Statute Paper No. 145, Mr chukai di-atas barang2 di-bawah Tarif Speaker, Sir. Kod No. 411. 100 daripada 25% kapada Mr Speaker: I am putting the 10%, ada-lah di-buat untok melaksana­ question to the House. kan ketetapan itu. Question put, and agreed to. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon supaya usul ini di-luluskan. Resolved, Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: bahawa mengikut kuasa2 y1mg telah di-beri Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya menyokong. kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (2) sekshen 10, Undang2 Kastam 1952, perentah Tuan Geh Chong Keat: Mr Speaker, Chukai2 Kastam (Pindaan) (No. 14), 1967 Sir, arising out of this Bill I am going yang telah di-bentangkan dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 145 tahun to make a request to the Minister of 1967, di-sahkan. · 2631 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2632 TIIE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN the lower income group, and these items COMMON TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 once imported paid duty and imported into Penang or any part of the country The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) (Amendment) (No. 4) Order, 1967 also will cause inconvenience and hard­ ship to the lower income group. The Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang Minister, I am sure, will be able to di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadangkan, inform the House as to the number of "Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan bicycles being used in this country. The bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri number of people using this means of kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama transportation belong to the lower Malaysia), 1966, Pere11tah Kastam (Tarif income group and by the introducing Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 4) 1967, of this Motion imposing various Cus­ yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan toms duties, a lot of people will be ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 133 tahun 1967, di-sahkan." affected. Therefore, I am asking the Minister of Commerce and Industry Perentah yang ada di-hadapan De­ and the Minister of Finance to study wan ini ada-lah melaksanakan shor2 this matter and find out whether the Penyata Lembaga Penasihat Tarif ber­ import duty could be reduced, because kenaan dengan basikal dan barang2 a lot of people in this country using bahagian-nya yang telah pun di-lulus­ this mode of transportation are rural kan oleh Yang Berhormat Menteri Ke­ people. The country has .been compli­ wangan. Mengikut Penyata itu, bebe­ mented for its rural development rapa kemajuan telah pun di-chapai da­ programmes and the uplift of the lam lapangan membuat basikal tem­ standard of living in the rural areas patan. Ada-lah di-jangka dalam masa and the country in general. With the hadapan, dua buah kilang basikal akan construction of roads, the means of di-dirikan. transportation have improved, and for Kadar2 chukai yang ada sekarang di­ this we compliment the Government, Malaysia Barat ada-lah memberi per­ because some of the people in the rural lindongan yang chukup bagi peru­ areas are using motor cars, motor sahaan basikal. vehicles as a means of transportation. But the fact still remains that the Perentah yang ada di-hadapan De­ greater percentage of the lower income wan ini yang kuasa-nya meliputi selu­ group still use bicycles as their means roh Malaysia, melainkan Labuan dan of transportation, and if a reduction of Pulau Pinang, hanya menyamakan duty, in general, could be considered by kadar2 chukai bagi basikal dan barang2 the Minister of Commerce and Industry bahagian-nya dengan kadar2 chukai di­ and the Minister of Finance, I think Malaysia Barat. Penyamaan ini akan the people would welcome this news membolehkan perusahaan itu ber­ and would be grateful. However, the tanding dengan lebeh baik lagi di­ main point still remains as to what Malaysia Timor, terutama sa-kali ter­ proportion of these articles are being hadap basikal dan bahagian2 yang produced in Malaysia today. Do we di-impot dari negeri China dan Jepun. have the tubes and the other facilities, and are we making sufficient parts and Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon bicycles to warrant this protection, supaya usul ini di-luluskan. which are the means of transportation Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: of the lower income groups of this Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya menyokong. country? Thank you, Sir. Tuan Geh Chong Keat: Mr Speaker, Dr Lim Swee Aun: Mr Speaker, Sir, Sir, with your permission I would like hundreds of thousands of bicycles have to speak on this Motion and refer to been used in this country, and there is Statute Paper No. 133 of 1967. sufficient room in the home market to set up at least three factories manu­ Mr Speaker, Sir, the introducing of facturing bicycles for home consump­ duty on bicycle parts and bicycles, I tion. So far, one factory has already think, is causing a lot of hardship to been in existence for the last so many 2633 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2634 years but, unfortunately, because of for many years, would he also consider, lack of protection, this factory has not as I have brought up in this House been able to expand due to the import many times, the many types of factories of cheap bicycles and parts from abroad. in Penang Island-the biscuits factory Sir, two other factories are coming up the dietician factories-producing local and unless there is adequate protection products from local foods and local there would not be sufficient inducement flours with local raw materials, such as or ability to produce bicycles for home sugar for our local factory, the beans consumption. However, when the Tariff seed curd, which are not being consi­ Advisory Board examined this problem dered. They have been there for they were given an assurance that the generations, and some of them have prices of bicycles manufactured locally been producing local foods with mate­ would not be higher than the imported rials, but yet have not been considered. bicycles, which means to say that Therefore, in protecting this assembly­ although there is protection the prices. ing plant and the other two factories or the retail prices, would not be higher coming up, will we be assured of the than the present imported bicycles. price control and the quality of the product, and also will he consider the Tuan Geh Chong Keat: May I seek other factories that have been existing clarification again from the Honourable in the Island of Penang? Thank you, Minister of Commerce and Industry? Sir. Speaking of the only one factory that has been here for many years, if I am Dr Lim Swee Aun: Mr Speaker, Sir, not mistaken, they are only assembling, I hope you will rule in future, as you importing the parts and assembling have done just now, that the Honour­ them at Kuala Lumpur. What I am able Member will make all his points trying to inquire is this : with this in one speech and not drag it out as if protection, the point that we have got we were in the committee stage. This is to consider would be, will the quality not a committee but this is a House in of the finished product be improved, in full. order to warrant the price in respect of Mr Speaker: I am fully aware of the cheaper bicycles that we are paying that. That is my duty. for today. Now, will we know that because of this motion the cost of Dr Lim Swee Aun: Sir, I have told bicycles as usual has gone up? Bicycles the Honourable Member that this for children, school-going children and factory has been in function for several for tiny tots who are learning how to years. It is not purely assembling. It cycle .... has manufactured parts, and some of the items here are in fact manufactured Mr Speaker: I should like to know in the Island of Penang, and that is why on what point you wish to seek for we are seeking protection for this clarification. Do not make a second factory. Secondly, on the question of speech. quality, naturally unless these factories produce articles of sufficient quality J Mr Geh Cllong Keat: Sir, for the quality-the assurance that the price and standard, they will not be able to will be under control. sell it; and thirdly the Honourable Member is very concerned that protec­ Mr Speaker: Yes, then put that tion has not been given to some manu­ question and sit down. facturers in Penang Island. I hope he Mr Geh Chong Keat: Yes, but I am has done his home work, because going further than that, Sir. several Papers here will give protection to factories in Penang as we go along Mr Speaker: You cannot make a with today's agenda. There are several second speech. Papers here which deal with sugar Mr Geh Chong Keat: I am cutting products and preserved fruits which it short, Sir. While the Minister has will be given protection-those manu­ said that we are producing bicycles, factured in Penang. because a factory has been assemblying Question put, and agreed to. 2635 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2636 Resolved, follow. the matter on the introduction · Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapari of duties on the various commodities. bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri As I ·understand it, the Minister is kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) trying to save time. Sir, we would like sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (T;trif Bersama Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif to help him to. save time, but we would Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 4) 1967, like to know what are the items in yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini respect of which duties are introduced, sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 133 tahun as we go from time to time. As it is, !967, di-sahkan. we are in the dark, unless we are informed by the· Minister of Finance. ~ TIIE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN Thank you, Sir. COMMON TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 The Customs (Malaysian Common Taritfs) Dr Ng Kam Pob: Mr Speaker, Sir, .Extension to Penaq) (Amendment) (No. 2) since the Honourable Member for · Order, 1967 Penang Utara is so interested in Tariff Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang Codes, I suggest that he can buy one di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadangkan: from the Government Printer-it is Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan always available. Secondly, the numbers bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri given in the Tariff Codes are similar to kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) the ones given in Statute Paper No. 133, seksben 2, Undang2 Kastam (Taiif Bersama Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif with some other exceptions which were Bersama Malaysia) (Lanjutan kapl).da Pulau already mentioned previously. If the Pinang) (Pindaan) (No. 2) 1967, yang telah Honourable Member from Penang di~bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai wishes to debate on this Motion, he Kertas Undang2 No. 134 tahun 1967, di­ sahkan. should have taken the trouble to refer himself. I agree that he does not want Perentah ini ada-lah sama dengan to take the trouble to refer, he wants Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama everything done for him-spoon-fed. Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 4) 1967, yang We cannot spoon-feed everybody in this telah pun di-sahkan oleh Dewan ini House of Parliament. So, I would say tadi, melainkan ia di~kenakan kapada to the Honourable Member for Penang negeri Pulau Pinang sahaja. Utara that before he stands up on a j:>oint of clarification, he should do his Tuan Yang di·Pertua, saya mohon home work before coming to this House. supaya usul ini di-luluskan. Tuan Geh Chong Keat: I am obliged Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: to the reply of the Assistant Minister. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon menyokong. Mr Speaker: Is this seeking clarifi- , fication-? Tuan Geh Chong Keat: Mr Speaker, Sir, I seek your permission to· put in Tuan Geh Chong Keat: Yes, Sir. I the right perspective what I was speaking about just now under Statute would like to seek further clarification Paper No. 132. I am making the same from him. It is not a case of Members "" request, Sir, in respect of Statute Paper of Parliament having to be spoon-fed by No. 134. Now, Sir, Paper No. 134 in the Minister of Finance. It is our duty respect of which the Parliamentary to know what is going on in this House. Secretary has introduced all the items It is also our duty to know that the concerned are in Tariff Codes, and I matter .... think he is doing that to save time. However, in Statute Paper No. 133, we Mr Speaker: I am afraid that is not have the Tariff Code numbers and seeking clarification. That is answer­ description of goods. Therefore, to ing .... simplify matters I am putting a request to: the Honourable Minister of Finance Tuan · Geib. Chong Keat: That is a as to whether we could be. given a book preamble. I "am coming to it, Sir. of the Tariff Codes,. so that we could (Laughter). 2637 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2638 Mr Speaker:· You cannot. Please sit 15 % (Chukai Penoh dan Chukai down. Istimewa). Perlindongan Tarif ini ada­ lah mustahak kerana kadar2 chukai Tuan Geh · Chong Keat: Yes. I feel yang ada sekarang tidak memberi that it is as much . . . . chukup perlindongaQ. ·· kapada perusa­ haan2 ini yang sekarang · menghadapi Mr Speaker: Please sit down. Other pertandingan yang kuat daripada than clarification on any point which negara2 yang sangat maju terutama is made, you cannot make a second sa-kali negara Taiwan dan Jepun. speech. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon Question put, and agreed to. supaya usul ini di.:.Iuluskan. · Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: Resolved, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya menyo­ Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan kong. bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) Question put, and agreed to. sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Resolved. Bersama Malaysia) (Lanjutan kapada Pulau Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan Pinang) (Pindaan) (No. 2) 1967, yang telah bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) Kertas Undang2 No. 134 tahun 1967, di­ sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama sahkan. Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 5) 1967, Sitting suspended at 1.00 p.m. yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 135 tahun 1967, Sitting resumed at 4.00 p.m. di-sahkan. (Mr Deputy Speaker in the Chair) mE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN COMMON TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 mE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN 1be Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) COMMON TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 (Extension to Penang), (Amendment) (No. 3) 1be Customs (Malaysian Common Tarifts) Order, 1967 (Amendment) (No. 5) Order, 1967 Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadang­ di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadang­ kan: kan: Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama Bersama Malaysia) (Lanjutan kapada Pulau Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Pinang) (Pindaan) (No. 3) 1967, yang telah Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 5) 1967, di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-b!!jlai yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini Kertas Undang2 No. 136 tahun 1967, di­ sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 135 tahun 1967, sahkan. di-sahkan. Perentah yang ada di-hadapan Dewan Pindaan ini ada-lah sama juga 2 dengan Pindaan Kastam (Tarif Ber­ ini ada-lah melaksanakan shor Pe­ sama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 5) nyata Lembaga Penasehat Tarif tahun 1967 yang telah pun di-sahkan berkenaan dengan lampu dan keleng­ oleh Dewan ini tadi, melainkan ini kapan yang serupa di-dalam rumah. 2 di-kenakan kapada Negeri Pulau Barang ini di-perjeniskan di-bawah Pinang sahaja. Tarif Kod Nombor 812 425-2 dan Kod ini sekarang di-bahagi dua, ia-itu 812 Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon 425-2 dan 812 425-3. Barang2 di-bawah supaya usul ini di-luluskan. Tarif Kod 812 425-2 di-kenakan chukai sa-banyak 30% (Chukai Penoh Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: dan Chukai Istimewa) manakala Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya menyo­ barang2 di-bawah Tarif Kod 812 kong. 425-3 di-kenakan chukai sa-banyak Question put, and agreed to. 2639 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2640 Resolved, 053 610, dan 053 620 hendak-lah juga Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan tidak di-kenakan chukai apabila di­ bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri bawa masok balek ka-Kawasan Besar kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) Kastam. Apabila kadar chukai ini sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama di-lanjutkan kapada negeri Pulau Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif. 2 Bersama Malaysia) (Lanjutan kapada Pulau Pinang maka barang itu dapat-lah di­ Pinang) (Pindaan) (No. 3) 1967, yang telah bawa masok daripada Pulau Pinang di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai ka-Kawasan Besar Kastam dengan Kertas Undang2 No. 136 tahun 1967, di­ tiada membayar chukai. sahkan. Perentah yang ada di-hadapan mE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN Dewan ini hanya melanjutkan kadar COMMON TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 chukai bagi Tarif Kod No. 053 301 "jams, fruits jelly, seedless jams, The Customs (Malaysian Common Tarilfs) marmalades and lemon card" kerana Extension to Penang) (Amendment) (No. 4) Order, 1967 barang2 ini ada-lah barang2 Tarif Bersama. Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, .saya mohon menchadang­ Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon kan: supaya usul ini di-luluskan. Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rah.man: bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya sokong. kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama Question put, and agreed to. Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) (Lanjutan kapada Pulau Resolved, Pinang) (Pindaan) (No. 4) 1967, yang telah Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri Kertas Undang2 No. 137 tahun 1967, di­ kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) sahkan. sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia). 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Perentah yang ada di-hadapan Bersama Malaysia) (Lanjutan kapada Pulau Dewan ini melanjutkan ka-negeri Pinang) (Pindaan) (No. 4) 1967, yang telah Pulau Pinang kadar2 chukai di-Malay­ di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 137 tahun 1967, di­ sia Barat di-atas "durian pulp" dan sahkan. juga barang2 yang serupa yang di­ perjeniskan di-bawah Tarif Kod No. mE CUSTOMS ORDINANCE, 1952 053 301, 053 302, 053 610, dan 053 620. Kadar2 chukai yang di-kenakan The Customs Duties (Penang) (Amendment) di-atas barang2 ini ia-lah 25 sen tiap2 (No. 2) Order, 1967 satu pound. Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadang­ "Durian pulp" ada-lah di-buat di­ kan, dalam Pulau Pinang daripada durian Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan dan gula yang di-bawa masok dari­ bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri pada Kawasan Besar Kastam (Prin­ kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (2) sekshen 143, Undang2 Kastam, 1952, cipal Customs Area). Barang2 ini Perentah Chukai2 Kastam (Pulau Pinang) dalam tin di-perjeniskan di-bawah (Pindaan) (No. 2), 1967, yang telah di­ Tarif Kod No. 053 302 dan di-kena­ bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai kan chukai sa-banyak 25 sen satu Kertas Undang2 No. 138 tahun 1967, di­ pound apabila di-bawa balek masok sahkan. ka-Kawasan Besar Kastam. Oleh Perentah ini ada-lah sama dengan kerana sekarang barang2 ini di-buat Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama di-Pulau Pinang dan sa-harus-nya di­ Malaysia) (Lanjutan kapada Pulau galakkan, maka ada-lah di-fikirkan Pinang) (Pindaan) (No. 4) 1967 yang bahawa barang2 itu tidak-lah patut di­ telah pun di-sahkan, melainkan ia di­ kenakan chukai apabila di-bawa kenakan kapada negeri Pulau Pinang masok balek ka-Kawasan Besar Kas­ khas-nya barang2 yang di-perjeniskan tam. Barang2 yang sa-umpama itu di-bawah Tarif Kod No. 053 302, 053 saperti jem dan lain2 yang di-perjenis­ 610, dan 053 620. Barang2 ini ada-lah kan di-bawah Tarif Kod No. 053 301. barang2 Tarif Bersama. 2641 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2642 Tuan Yang di-Pertua. saya mohon di-kukus untok makanan binatang dan supaya usul ini di-luluskan. "rolled oats" yang di-masak atau di­ kilang lagi untok makanan manusia. Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: Tuan Yang di-Pertua. saya sokong. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon supaya usul ini di-luluskan. Question put, and agreed to. Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: Resolved, Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya sokong. Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri Question put, and agreed to. kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (2) sekshen 143, Undang2 Kastam, 1952, Resolved. Perentah Chukai2 Kastam (Pulau Pinang) Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan (Pindaan) (No. 2), 1967, yang telah di­ bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri ~ bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) Kertas Undang2 No. 138 tahun 1967, di· sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama sahkan. Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 6) 1967, THE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN yang telah di-bentangkan dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 139 tahun COMMON TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 1967, di-sahkan. The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) (Amendment) (No. 6) Order, 1967 THE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang COMMON TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadang­ The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) kan: (Extension to Penang) (Amendment) (No. 5) Order, 1967 Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadang­ sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif kan: Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 6) 1967, Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 139 tahun kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) 1967, di-sahkan. sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Perentah yang ada di-hadapan Bersama Malaysia) (Lanjutan kapada Pulau Dewan ini menaikkan kadar chukai Pinang) (Pindaan) (No. 5) 1967, yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai di-atas "rolled oats" yang tiada ber­ Kertas Undang2 No. 140 tahun 1967, di­ chukai hingga $30.00 pada tiap2 satu sahkan. ton (Chukai Pcnoh dan Chukai Istimewa). "Rolled oats" ini di-guna­ Pierentah ini ada-lah sama dengan kan untok makanan binatang ternakan Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama dan di-perjeniskan di-bawah Tarif Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 6), 1967 Kod 081 904. "Rolled oats" untok yang telah pun di-sahkan oleh Dewan makanan manusia di-perjeniskan di­ ini tadi, melainkan ini di-kenakan bawah Tarif Kod 048 111. Kenaikan hanya kapada negeri Pulau Pinang. chukai bagi "rolled oats" untok Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon makanan binatang ada-lah di-buat kerana hendak melindong perusahaan supaya usul ini di-luluskan. tempatan daripada turun-naik harga "oats" di-pasaran dunia dan juga Tuan Ibrahim ,bin Abdul Rahman: melindongkan daripada "dumping" Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon daripada negara2 yang mengekspot menyokong usul ini. saperti negeri China. Kenaikan chukai Question put, and agreed to. di-atas "rolled oats" untok makanan manusia pula ada-lah bertujuan Resolved, menghapuskan kesulitan yang se­ Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri karang di-dapati mengenai pengenalan kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) "oats" yang di-masak dengan tiada di­ sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama masak ia-itu "rolled oats" yang hanya Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif 2643 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2644 Bersama Malaysia) (Lanjutan kapada Pulau Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: Pinang) (Pindaan) (No. 5) 1967, yang telab di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon Kertas Undang2 No. 140 tahun 1967, di­ menyokong usul ini. sahkan. Question put, and agreed to. THE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN COMMON TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 Resolved, The Customs (Malaysian Common TarUfs) Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan (Amendment) (No. 7) Order, 1967 bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telab di-beri kapada-nya di-bawah pechaban-sekshen (4) Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadang­ Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 7) 1967, kan: yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 141 tahun bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri 1967, di-sahkan. ' kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama THE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 7) 1967, COMMON TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 141 tabun The Customs (Malaysian Common TarUfs) 1967, di-sabkan. (Amendment) (No. 8) Order, 1967 Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang Perentah yang ada di-hadapan di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadang­ Dewan ini melaksanakan ketetapan -kan: yang di-buat oleh Kerajaan untok Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan menurunkan kadar chukai di-atas bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri "nylon elastic yarn" (Tarif Kod No. kapada-nya di-bawah pechaban-sekshen (4) sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama 621 030) yang di-gunakan untok Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif membuat sarong kaki daripada 30% Bersama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 8) 1967, kapada 10%. Pada masa yang lampau, yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 146 tahun pembuat2 sarong kaki (socks) telah 1967, di-sabkan. mendapat kechualian chukai di-atas "nylon elastic yarn". Kadar chukai sa­ Perentah ini melaksanakan shor2 banyak 30% itu telah pun di-kenakan penyata Lembaga Penasihat Tarif di­ dahulu sa-lepas satu siasatan yang di­ atas "carpets and rugs". Barang2 ini buat oleh Lembaga Penasihat Tarif di­ di-perjeniskan di-bawah Tarif Kod No. atas "rubber fabricated materials and 657 500, 657 601, 657 602, 657 603 manufactures". Penyiasatan ini telah dan 657 609. Kadar2 chukai di-atas di-buat sa-belum perpisahan Singapura barang2 tarif bersama ini telah di­ daripada Malaysia dan pada masa itu naikkan daripada 25 % (Chukai Penoh kadar chukai itu di-fikirkan akan dan Chukai lstimewa) kapada 35% menggalakkan pembuatan barang2 (Chukai Penoh dan Chukai Istimewa). tempatan. Dengan perpisahan Singa­ Kenaikan chukai ini ada-lah mustahak pura, pasaran tempatan bagi barang kerana pada masa ini permaidani dan ini telah pun jatoh dan nampak-nya hamparan buatan tempatan, walau pun masa hadapan bagi barang ini tidak­ tidak di-keluarkan banyak, menghadapi pertandingan terok daripada permai­ lah bagitu baik. Pada masa yang lalu, dani dan hamparan buatan kapas dan kadar chukai di-atas "elastic fabric" "jute" yang datang daripada luar (Tarif Kod No. 655 500) telah di­ negeri. Masa hadapan perusahaan ini turunkan kapada 10%. Dengan ini nampak-nya agak baik, kerana pada maka tidak-lah munasabah jika kadar masa ini banyak permaidani dan chukai sa-banyak 30% di-atas "elastic hamparan di-kehendaki oleh orang yarn" di-kekalkan. ramai. Pemasaran bagi barang ini barangkali akan lebeh luas lagi apabila Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon perusahaan memasang kereta motor supaya usul ini di-luluskan. di-dirikan di-negeri ini. 2645 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2646 Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon Malaysia), 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif Bersama Malaysia) (Lanjutan kapada Pulau supaya usul ini di-luluskan. Pinang) (Pindaan) (No. 6) 1967, yang telah di-bentangkan_ di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: Kertas Undang2 No. 147 tahun 1967, di­ Tuan Yang di_-Pertua; saya menyokong sahkan. usul ini. mE CUSTOMS ORDINANCE, 1952 Question put, and agreed to. The Surtax (Imports) (Amendment) (No. 3) Order, 1967 Resolved, Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang - Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadang­ bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri kan: kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan Malaysia}, 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri Bersama Malaysia} (Pindaan) (No. 8) 1967, kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (2) yang telah di-bentangkan di~dalam Dewan ini sekshen 10, Undang2 Kastam, 1952, Perentah sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 146 tahun Chukai Tambahan (Impot) (Pindaan) (No. 3) 1967, di-sahkan. 1967, yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 148 mE CUSTOMS (MALAYSIAN fahun 1967, di-sahkan. COMMON_ TARIFFS) ACT, 1966 Rayuan telah pun di-terima daripada The Customs (Malaysian Common Tariffs) sa-buah Sharikat memohon supaya (Extension to Penang~ (Amendment) (No. 6) Order, 1967 filem dan "posters" yang di-bawa masok daripada mana2 3 Kawasan Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang Kastam di-kenakan chukai sa-kali di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadang­ sahaja. Chadangan ini mungkin akan kan: mengurangkan bebanan kewangan di­ Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan atas perusahaan itu. bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (4) sekshen 2, Undang2 Kastam (Tarif Bersama Permintaan Sharikat itu telah pun Malaysia}, 1966, Perentah Kastam (Tarif di-timbangkan dan sekarang ada-lah Bersama Malaysia) (Lanjutan kapada Pulau di-tetapkan bahawa semua barang2 Pinang) (Pindaan) (No. 6) 1967, yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai tidak akan di-kenakan Chukai Tamba­ Kertas Undang2 No. 147 tahun 1967, di­ han jika chukai itu telah di-bayar sa­ sahkan. kali di-mana2 Kawasan Kastam di­ Malaysia ini. Perentah yang ada di­ Perentah ini ada-lah sama ]uga hadapan Dewan ini ada-lah untok dengan Perentah Kastam (Tarif Ber­ sama Malaysia) (Pindaan) (No. 8), melaksanakan ketetapan ini. 1967 yang telah di-sahkan tadi, melainkan ia di-kenakan kapada negeri Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon Pulau Pinang sahaja. supaya usul ini di-luluskan. Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: supaya usul ini di-luluskan. Tuan. Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon menyokong. Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon Question put, and agreed to. menyokong usul ini. Resolved, Question- put, and agreed to. Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (2) Resolved, sekshen 10, Undang2 Kastam, 1952, Perentah Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan Chukai Tambahan (lmpot) (Pindaan) (No. 3) bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri 1967, yang telah di-bentangkan di-dalam kapada-nya di-bawah pecbahan-seksben (4) Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 148 sekshen 2, Undang2. Kastam (Tarif Bersama tahun 1967, di-sahkan. 2647 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2648 THE SABAH CUSTOMS bentangkan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Undang2 No. 150 tahun 1967, di­ ORDINANCE (CAP. 33) sahkan. The Surtax (Imports) (Amendment) (No. 3) Order, 1967 Perentah yang ada di-hadapan Tuan Ali bin Haji Ahmad: Tuan Yang Dewan ini ada-lah sama juga dengan di-Pertua, saya mohon menchadang­ Percntah Chukai Tambahan (Import) kan: (Pindaan) (No. 3), 1967, bagi Malaysia Barat yang telah pun di-sahkan tadi, Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri melainkan ia di-kenakan kapada kapada-nya di-bawah pechahan-sekshen (3) negeri Sarawak sahaja. Dengan lain2 sekshen 8, Undang2 Kastam Sabah (Bab 33), perkataan barang2 yang chukai tamba­ Perentah Chukai Tambahan (Import) (Pin­ han-nya telah di-bayar di-Malaysia daan) (No. 3) 1967, yang telah di-bentang­ kan di-dalam Dewan ini sa-bagai Kertas Barat, atau di-Sabah tidak akan di­ Undang2 No. 149 tahun 1967, di-sahkan. kenakan chukai tambahan lagi jika barang2 itu di-impot ka-negeri Sarawak. Perentah yang ada di-hadapan Dewan ini ada-lah sama dengan Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon Perentah Chukai Kastam (Import) supaya usul ini di-luluskan. (Pindaan) (No. 3), 1967 bagi Malaysia Barat yang telah pun di-sahkan tadi, Tuan Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman: · melainkan ia di-kenakan kapada Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya menyokong. negeri .Sabah sahaja. Dengan lain2 perkataan barang2 yang chukai tamba­ Question put, and agreed to. han-nya telah di-bayar di-Malaysia Resolved, Barat atau di-Sarawak tidak akan di­ Supaya Dewan ini mengambil ketetapan kenakan chukai tambahan lagi jika bahawa mengikut kuasa2 yang telah di-beri barang2 itu di-importkan ka-negeri kapaua K:ali date, according to breakdown of their 7. Tuan Edmund Langgu anak Saga classification, is as follows : asks the Minister of Agriculture and Societies Co-operatives to state whether a survey (a) Credit-Rural ...... 1,638 has been made on the possibility of establishing Paddy Double Cropping (b) Credit-Urban and places . of employment . . . 444 Scheme in other places besides Sebuti in Sarawak. (c) Processing and Marketing 571 (d) Land and Farming . . . 78 Tuan Haji Mohd. Ghazali: Three additional schemes are being surveyed (e) Consumers ...... 190 in Sarawak on the possibility of estab­ (f) Banks ...... 23 lishing Padi Double Cropping. These are Mid-Sadong and Tanjong Purun (g) Miscellaneous ...... 141 Lundu in the First Division, and (h) Unions ...... 30 Pandaruan in the Fifth Division. Two more schemes, namely, Sungei Total . .. 3,115 Saeh Niah in the Fourth Division and Paya Lumut Lawas in the Fifth Divi­ Of the above number, the following sion are still under investigation. are considered to be in the category of not economically viable : Sharikat Perumahan K:erjasama Pegawai2 (a) Credit-Rural ...... 30% K:erajaan ( b) Processing and Marketing 20 % 8. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Agriculture and Co-opera­ (c) Consumers ...... 30% tives to state if he is aware that a five­ (d) Unions ...... : . . 10% man delegation from the Government 2691 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2692 Officers Co-operatives Housing Society Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: I do not called on the Registrar of Co-operative know when Far Eastern Publishers Societies to discuss and seek clarifica­ Limited were formed. Dewan Bahasa tion on matters concerning the Society's dan Pustaka first did business with multi-million dollar housing project at them in 1960. The total transaction Sungei Way, and if so, what steps his done between Dewan Bahasa dan Ministry has taken to sweep clean the Pustaka and Far Eastern Publishers Augean Stables of this Society. Limited from 1960 to the end of September, 1967, amounted to Tuan Haji Mohd. Ghazali: I am $10, 781,266.00. aware that five members of the Malaysian Government Officers Co­ All books submitted to Dewan operatives Housing Society called on Bahasa dan Pustaka by publishers, the Registrar of Co-operative Societies both local and foreign, for publication on 6th October, 1967, to discuss certain in the National, English and other matters pertaining to the Society. languages are referred to the Publica­ tion Committee of the Board of Control The Registrar of Co-operative Socie­ of Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka for its ties had caused the accounts of the consideration and approval. The reason Society to be audited, even before the that much more business has been allegations against the Society were done with Far Eastern Publishers made in Parliament. These accounts Limited is that the said publishers have had been tabled at the Society's General submitted to Dewan Bahasa dan Meeting held on 5th November, 1967 Pustaka more books than the other and passed. However, certain clarifica­ publishers. Further, in the opinion of tions on the accounts are still being the Publication Committee, the terms sought by the Registrar. It is under­ offered by the Far Eastern Publishers stood that the Anti-Corruption Limited, were reasonable and that the Agency is now in the course of investi­ contents, illustrations, layout, format gating into the allegations made against and binding of their books were better the Society. than those of the other publishers.

KEMENTERIAN PELAJARAN Peranikaan Pelajaran Perchetakan Eastern/Dewan Bahasa dan 11. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Pustaka Minister of Education if he is aware that educational statistics are fairly 9. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Education if it is true that easy to collect and collate, and if so, the firm of Far Eastern Publishers whether he will undertake to have owes the Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka them issued regularly, as they will be the sum of $200,000, if so, whether he of tremendous value to those interested would state how this debt was incurred in education in this country. and what steps the Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka has taken to recover this debt. Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: I do not agree that educational statistics are The Minister of Education (Tuan "fairly easy to collect and collate". Mohd. Khir Johari): No, it is not true. However, I wish to inform the Honour­ able Member that selected statistics 10. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the are published periodically and these Minister of Education the TOTAL are made available to the public on transaction between the Dewan Bahasa request. dan Pustaka and Far Eastern Pub­ lishers since the latter was formed, and Encbe' Foo Yeow Yoke the reasons why the Dewan Bahasa 12. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the dan Pustaka do so much business with Minister of Education if the former the Far Eastern Publishers. Registrar of the University of Malaya, 2693 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2694 Mr Foo Yeow Yoke is still the natural rubber. However, as early as Secretary of the Penang University in 1960 when I was in the Ministry Co11ege Working Committee, and if so, of Commerce and Industry I had called whether he should not be replaced upon private enterprise to look into since he is no longer the Registrar of the possibility of putting up such a the University of Malaya. project. In fact one company has already come forward to apply for Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: Mr Foo pioneer status and has been given such Y eow Yoke is still the Secretary of the a status for the manufacture of Penang University College Working condoms, prophylactics and nipples Committee. His appointment as the from natural rubber. The factory, Secretary is in his personal capacity which is sited in Klang, is expected to and not as the Registrar of the Univer­ be in production in April 1968 and I sity of Malaya. As such the question understand that in addition of catering of his replacement does not arise. for the local market it will also probe into the possibility of export markets. Pencheph Penghamilan 13. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Sistem Ejaan Bersama Yang Baharu Minister of Education if he is aware 14. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the that with the fall in price of rubber the Minister of Education if he is aware Alliance Government should encourage of the call by Ptof. Syed Hussein the use of natural rubber and therefore Alatas for a public debate by repre­ he should not encourage Malaysian sentatives from Malay-speaking coun­ females to use the PILL but instead tries to thrash out the pros and cons encourage Malaysian males to make of the new common spelling system use of condoms made of natural announced recently by the Malaysian rubber, and to state whether he will Government, that the Government or consider encouraging the setting up of for that matter the Dewan Bahasa dan a factory to manufacture condoms from Pustaka cannot ram any system of natural rubber not only for local spelling down the throats of the people consumption but for export as well. and that the development of any language depends on carrying along Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: The Natio­ the people with it and its usage by the nal Family Planning Board. encourages people, if so, to state whether the the use of all contraceptive methods Government welcomes the suggestion, including oral pills and condoms. Oral and if not, why. contraceptive pills seem to be the most popular in Malaysia today. Theoreti­ Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: cally it is 100 % safe against pregnancy {i) I am not aware of such call by and the failure rates, if any, have been Prof. Syed Hussein Alatas. I the result of the woman either not am however aware that Prof. taking enough doses or not following Syed Hussein did issue a chal­ instructions. The rate of failure of the lenge to the Malaysian Spelling condoms is about 15%. Moreover for Committee for a pubJic debate reasons peculiar to Muslims, I am told with him on the new spelling that the condoms have proved to be system. This challenge has been failures among a number of Muslim publicly rejected by the Com­ users. mittee for the reason that there Taking into account the amount of have been considerable debates condoms now being used and what and discussions since the nine­ can be expected in the future, the high teen fifties not only on the cost of production-needing a highly need to reform the present skilled labour, the amount of rubber Romanized spelling system of latex required and the stiff competition the National language but also with other producing countries, it on the form and structure of the would appear to be highly uneconomi­ new spelling. Both expert and cal for the Board to set up a factory public opinions have been for the manufacture of condoms from gathered and carefully studies

-,_,_ ------2695 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2696 in formulating the new spelling pupils in Sarawak has increased steadily system. Therefore a further during the past few years, as shown public debate would serve no below- useful purpose. Perhaps I may Year No. of Sixth add that the professor had Form pupils made it clear in his public 1963 199 statements that he "agreed with many of the agreements reached 1966 306 by the Committee". 1967 428 (ii) Neither the Government nor the I am pleased to inform the Honourable Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka has Member that there will be one more any intention of ramming the additional Sixth Form class in Sarawak new spelling system down the in 1968. "~---- throats of the people. Penuntut2 Kurang Chekap Buku2 Teks Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka 17. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the 15. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Education if he is aware Minister of Education if he will clarify that the automatic promotion system up whether the Dewan Bahasa dan Pus­ to Form III is the cause of students taka's future textbooks will be sent to reaching Form I not being able even to the Textbook Bureau for approval write their names properly, and if so, to along with those of other publishers, state what steps he has taken to help or whether they will (and thus any such backward students and whether he publisher working through them) get will allow retention of the really back­ special treatment. ward students before being promoted. Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: It is not Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: The Dewan fair to state that the automatic promo­ Bahasa dan Pustaka's future textbooks tion system is the cause of pupils will be evaluated by the Textbooks reaching Form I not being able to Bureau. It is wrong to suggest that write their names properly. It is an these books are submitted to the established fact that in any large school Bureau "for approval". The second group, there will always be a number part of the question does not arise. of backward pupils. Since Government policy is to offer a school place to Sekolah2 Persediaan masok ka-Universiti every child up to the age of 15, it di-Sarawak follows that there must necessarily be 16. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the some backward pupils in our total Minister of Education if he is aware of school admissions. the call made by Penghulu Tawi, Chief Minister of Sarawak, at Kananil in A two-year pilot scheme commencing Third Division on 5-10-1967 for the in January 1967 on remedial teaching establishment of a pre-university school for backward pupils in primary schools in Sarawak and also of the great need is now being carried out in a few for such a school. If so, whether he schools in Selangor. Based on the will state when he will establish one results, it is hoped to be able to devise in Sarawak. a suitable programme for this category of pupils on a wider scale in the future. Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: Yes. As This programme however may not the Honourable Member is aware the necessarily involve retention of such primary purpose of a Pre-University pupils. School is to prepare students for admission to Universities or other Sekolab2 dan Kelas2 Khas institutions of Higher Education. In 18. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the this respect there are already at Minister of Education to state the present 5 secondary schools in Sarawak number of special schools and classes having Pre-University or Sixth Form that have been established for the classes. The number of Sixth Form educationally sub-normal children. 2697 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2698 Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: No special Certificate of Education Examination school has been established in the in 1967. country for educationally sub-normal children. However, classes for back­ 22. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the ward pupils have been formed in a few Minister of Education to state : schools in Selangor under a 2-year (a) the present Form N enrolment; pilot project (1967-1968). (b) explain the Education Ministry's 19. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the plans, if any, to increase the Minister of Education to state whether number of Form N places in he is aware that very little progress 1968, and Form V places the has been made with the establishment year after; of special schools and classes for the (c) give a breakdown of the esti­ teaching of backward students, in mated 40,204 places in Form N order that they may benefit something next year in terms of properly from their years at school instead of staffed and equipped classrooms, merely occupying valuable school and also in terms of academic, places and learning nothing at all after technical and vocational places; their years at school, and the action he and proposes to take in this matter. (d) to state the estimated increase in Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: The teach­ teacher output to meet the target ing of backward children in special increase in Form N places. schools is not at present considered an urgent priority due to more pressing Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: demands in other educational fields. (a) Bilangan murid2 dalam Ting­ This aspect of education is however katan IV di-Malaysia Barat being pursued on an experimental pada 3 lhb J anuari, 1967 ia-lah basis in some ordinary schools. 33,465. (h) Ada-lah di-chadangkan dengan Tempat2 dalam Tingkatan IV bergantong kapada keputusan 20. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the murid2 dalam Pepereksaan Sijil Minister of Education of the estimated Rendah Pelajaran, 1967 bilangan 40,204 places in Form N next year tempat2 dalam Tingkatan N how many will be allocated to: akan di-tambah kapada 40,204 (1) academic; pada tahun 1968. Peruntokan bagi tempat dan kakitangan (2) technical; and telah pun di-sediakan untok (3) vocational streams. menampong tambahan tahun 1968 dan tahun2 yang berikut­ Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: This will nya. depend on the performance of pupils in the Lower Certificate of Education (c) Dukachita saya menyatakan Examination, 1967. bahawa ada-lah terlalu awal untok memberikan satu persatu 21. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the butir2 bilangan tempat di-Ting­ Minister of Education to state how katan N itu dengan tepat, many of the 40,204 places for Form hingga keputusan pepereksaan N next year are in West Malaysia, S.R.P. di-ketahui. Sabah and Sarawak; how many of these (d) Anggaran tambahan bilangan are for academic, technical and pengeluaran guru2 ada-Iah lebeh vocational streams. kurang ~00. · Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: The 40,204 places for Form IV next year refer to (a) The present Form N enrolment West Malaysia alone. As to how many in West Malaysia as at 31st will be in the academic, technical and January, 1967 is 33,465. vocational streams, this will depend on (b) It is intended, dependent on the performance of pupils in the Lower pupils' performance in the 2699 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2700 Lower Certificate of Education Nasihat PegawaP 1ktisas Examination, 1967, to increase 24. Toan C. V. Devan Nair asks the Form IV places to 40,204 in Minister of Education to state: 1968. Provision for accommoda­ tion and staffing has already (a) whether he had sounded expert been made to cope with the professional educational opinion increase both in 1968 and on the subject of the permissible thereafter. work-load of teachers, if so, to state who the educational experts (c) I am afraid that it is too early or bodies are; and if not, to yet to provide this breakdown explain why this was not done; with any degree of accuracy, and until the results of the L.C.E. examination, 1967 are known. (b) would consider favourably the need to engage in prior discus­ --: (d) The estimated effective increase sions with the teachers' unions in teacher output is about 200. on all proposed changes relating to staffing ratio, teaching Guru2 Sementara periods and extra-curricular acti­ 23. Toan C. V. Devan Nair asks the vities, before any such proposals Minister of Education to confirm or are implemented. deny the claim by the National Union of Teachers that about 6,000 to 7,000 Toan Mohd. Khir Johari: untrained teachers employed in (a) Ya. saya sentiasa menimbang­ secondary and primary schools in West kan nasihat yang di-beri oleh Malaysia will be out of work next pegawai2 iktisas yang berpenga­ year as a result of the reported decision laman dalam Kementerian saya of the Ministry of Education to increase yang sentiasa berhubong rapat the work-load of teachers as from dengan perkembangan2 ter­ next year. baharu dalam bidang pelajaran; Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: Kemen­ (b) Saya akan menimbangkan-nya jika saya berpendapat bahawa terian Pelajaran maseh mengkaji 2 kedudokan guru2 sementara yang tidak sharat2 perkhidmatan guru terlateh kerana memandangkan kapada mungkin terlibat. bilangan guru2 baru yang terlateh yang semakin ramai keluar dari (a) Yes, I always take into account maktab2 latehan perguruan rendah dan advice given by experienced pro­ menengah termasok Pusat2 Latehan fessional officers in my Ministry Daerah. Peroses memberhentikan guru2 who are always in touch with sementara apabila terdapat guru2 yang the latest development in educa­ . terlatt::h yang chukup bilangan-nya, tion; ada-lah perkara biasa. Ini-lah sebab­ (b) I will so consider if, in my nya mengapa guru2 saperti itu di­ opinion, the terms and condi­ namakan guru2 "sementara". tions of service of teachers are likely to be affected. The Ministry of Education is still examining the position of untrained 25. Dr Tan Chee .Khoon asks the temporary teachers in the light of the Minister of Education to state if the increasing number of newly-trained tea­ proposed changes regarding staffing chers coming out from the primary and ratio, teaching period and extra­ secondary teacher training colleges curricular activities will be discussed including Regional Training Centres. ~t the NJCT before they are imple­ The process of doing away with tem­ mented; and if not, why not. porary teachers when trained teachers are available in sufficient numbers is a Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: I am well normal exercise. It is for this reason aware of the functions of the NJCT that such teachers are called "tempo­ as prescribed under the Education rary" teachers. (National Joint Council for Teachers) 2701 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2702 (Functions and Arbitration) Regula­ under twenty-one years of age will tions, 1963. I need only discuss with be attending or assisting in the arrangements of the political meeting them, if, in my opinion, the terms and it is proposed to hold in the school.". conditions of service of teachers are likely to be affected. Saya sedar bahawa di-beberapa kawasan2 perdalaman di-mana tidak 2 Menggunakan Bangunan2 Sekolah oleh ada dewan yang sesuai untok meng­ Parti2 Politik adakan meshuarat, beberapa buah parti politik telah menggunakan bangunan 26. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the sekolah untok mengadakan meshuarat Minister of Education to state the mereka. Ini di-lakukan sa-lepas men­ Government's policy on the use of dapat kebenaran dari Pendaftar school buildings by political parties, menurut kehendak2 undang2 yang ter­ and whether he is aware that Alliance sebut di-atas itu. and its member parties have used school buildings for solely party poli­ The Government's policy on the use tical purposes, if so, what action his of school buildings for political purposes Ministry has taken concerning them. is stated clearly in Section 54 of the Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: Dasar Schools (General) Regulations, 1951. Kerajaan mengenai penggunaan ba­ The relevant Section is quoted below ngunan2 sekolah untok maksud2 politik for the information of the Honourable ada-lah di-nyatakan dengan jelas dalam Member: Sekshen 54 Peratoran2 Sekolah2 ('Am), "54. (1) No school (to which the Ordi­ 1951. Sekshen yang berkenaan itu di­ nance applies} or part of the premises of perturunkan di-bawah ini untok any such school shall be used: ma'aluman Ahli Yang Berhormat itu: (a) for the purpose of political propa­ "54. (1) No school (to which the Ordi­ ganda aimed at, or likely to affect, nance applies) or part of the premises of the pupils of such school, any such school shall be used: (b) unless the consent in writing of the (a) for the purpose of political propa­ Registrar has been previously ob­ ganda aimed at, or likely to affect, tained- the pupils of such school, (i) for any meeting concerned with (b) unless the consent in writing of the politics on political propaganda.". Registrar has been previously ob­ tained- As a further restriction on the use (i) for any meeting concerned with of school premises by political parties, politics or political propaganda.". the Registrar will only grant such permission on condition that : Sa-bagai sekatan selanjut-nya ka-atas penggunaan sekolah oleh parti2 politik, (1) there is no other suitable hall Pendaftar akan hanya memberikan available in the vicinity; kebenaran dengan sharat : .(2) the political party concerned is (1) tiada lagi dewan yang sesuai prepared to certify in writing dalam kawasan itu; that- (2) parti politik yang berkenaan "In order to conform with the sanggup mengesahkan dengan requirements of Section 54 of the Schools (General) Regulations, 1951, bertulis bahawa~ which does not permit the use of "In order to conform with the any part of the premises of a school requirements of Section 54 of the for the purpose of political propa­ Schools (General) Regulations, 1951, ganda likely to affect the pupils of which does not permit the use of such school, and the Education any part of the premises of a school (Schools Discipline) Regulations, for the purpose of political propa­ 1959, which forbids pupils under the ganda likely to affect the pupils of age of twenty-one years from taking such school, and the Education an active part in political propa­ (Schools Discipline) Regulations, ganda, full responsibility is accepted 1959, which forbids pupils under the for ensuring that no school children age of twenty-one years from taking under twenty-one years of age will an active part in political propa­ be attending or assisting in the ganda, full responsibility is accepted arrangements of the political meeting for ensuring that no school chHdren it is proposed to hold in the school.". 2703 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2704 - ~. I am aware that in certain outlying kopi untok menubohkan sa-buah districts where halls are not available Tingkatan Enam Rendah. Akan tetapi, for meetings some political parties have tempat2 dalam Tingkatan Enam akan used school buildings for political di-adakan bagi semua murid2 yang meetings. This is done after permission berkelayakan di-pusat2 Tingkatan has been obtained from the Registrar Enam yang besar dan yang telah sedia in accordance with the requirements of adai di-Sekolah2 Kebangsaan yang lain. the law as stated above. Although there are two classes of pupils from the Sekolah Menengah Kumpulan Wang Pelajaran di-Sarawak Kebangsaan, Parit Buntar, entering for 27. Tuan Edmund Langgu anak Saga the Malaysian School Certificate Exami­ asks the Minister of Education to nation this year, it is not yet known how state whether his Ministry will increase many of them will eventually qualify funds for Secondary School Education for Sixth Form education. Based on in Sarawak for 1968 programmes. previous experience dealing with schools of similar size, however, it is Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: Satu tam­ not likely that sufficient pupils will be bahan keselurohan sa-banyak lebeh available to form a Lower Sixth Form. kurang 5 % dari peruntokan tahun ini Places in the Sixth Form, however, will bagi perbelanjaan pelajaran berulang be found for all qualified pupils in the tiap2 tahun di-Sarawak, termasok pela­ large and well established Sixth Form jaran di-Sekolah Menengah telah di­ centres in other Sekolah2 Kebangsaan. masokkan untok ranchangan2 bagi tahun 1968. Guru2 Sains Pertanian An overall increase of about 5 % over 29. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the and above this year's provision in res­ Minister of Education if he is aware pect of annually recurrent expenditure that qualified agricultural science on education in Sarawak, including teachers have been sent to teach in Secondary School Education, has been schools which have no facilities for entered for the 1968 programmes. teaching agricultural science and whether this is not a wanton waste of Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan, scientific manpower. Parit Buntar 28. Tuan Sulaiman bin Baji Taib ber­ Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: I know tanya kapada Menteri Pelajaran me­ that a number of Agricultural Science mandang kapada ramai-nya bilangan teachers are not at the moment tea­ pelajar2 yang sedang belajar di-dalam ching agricultural science in the schools Tingkatan V di-Sekolah Menengah of their assignment. It must be noted Kebangsaan, Parit Buntar, sekarang that these teachers on qualifying are ini, maka ada-kah pehak Kementerian equipped to teach five subjects ini berchadang hendak mengadakan including the subject they have Kelas Tingkatan VI di-Sekolah tersebut majored in. As the number of agri­ pada tahun 1968. cultural science classes increases they · Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: Waiau pun will be required to do more teaching murid2 dari dua buah kelas di-Sekolah of agricultural science in addition to Menengah Kebangsaan, Parit Buntar, cognate subjects such as General mengambil Pepereksaan Sijil Pelajaran Science, etc. Malaysia pada tahun ini, tidak-lah di-ketahui berapa ramai-kah dari me­ Bahasa Kebangsaan reka yang akan berjaya masok ka­ 30. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Tingkatan Enam. Walau bagaimana Minister of Education to clarify the pun, dengan berdasarkan kapada statement made by the Prime Minister pengalaman yang telah lepas dari that the National Language will sekolah2 yang sama besar-nya, mung­ become the medium of instruction for kin bilangan itu tidak akan menchu- selected subjects in fully-assisted 2705 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2706 national-typed English school next year The students' union of the College and whether he is aware that he should has also denied the report published on hasten slowly i.e. festina lente, on such page 4 of the Eastern Sun dated 10th matter so as not to dislocate the educa­ October, 1967. tion of the school children. Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: In the Jabatan Pelajaran, Perak first pl~ce I J:?ll;ISt ~ake it clear. th~t • 32. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the the _Pnme Mm1st~r s statement .1s m Minister of Education to state: relation to National-Type Pnmary . English medium schools only. There (a) why the Education Department, will be no change whatsoever in the Perak refused to accept certificates existing English medium secondary issued by private practitioners to schools. As far as the National-Type teachers and other members of Primary English medium schools are schools whereas in other States concerned instruction through the such certificates are accepted; and medium of Malay wil~ be confined t_o (b) what is the reason for such 3 or 4 ~elect~d sub1ects only. This discrimination. measure is designed to strengthen the foundation of the National Language Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: All officers at the primary level so that our and staff in the Education Office and in children will be able to get through schools must, on first appointment, be their National Language in the L.C.E. examined by a Government Medical Examination in which it is a com­ Officer for fitness to enter the service. pulsory subject. This is therefore in This is in accordance with the existing the interest of the children themselves. Government regulations and all Government departments are required I can assure the Hon'ble Member to follow these regulations. Sick certi­ that I shall not carry out any policy ficates from private medical practi­ that will, in my opinion, prejudice the tioners may at the discretion of the high standard of education that our Head of Department be accepted. The children are enjoying nor dislocate Perak Education Department has their education. merely been following the regulations and has not discriminated against Maktab Perguruan Larkin private medical practitioners. 31. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Education to state if he is Penuntut2 Tingkatan Empat aware of the complaint by female teachers of the Malayan Teachers' 33. Dr Tan Chee Khoon · asks the College at Larkin that the windows at Minister of Education to state how the female hostel are made of PLAIN many students there are in Form IV WHITE GLASS and as such their in West Malaysia, Sabah and Sarawak, "modesty is at stake", and if so, giving the figures separately for each whether he will change the transparent State and showing the numbers in aca­ glass without delay. demic, technical and vocational streams. Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: Neither Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: The the Principal of the Malayan Teachers' following are figures of students in College Johore Bahru nor the Ministry Form IV in 1967: of Education has ever received any complaint officially from the female West Malaysia- students in particular or the students' Enrolment in Academic union of the College regarding the Schools ... 32,531 window panes of the college hostel. Enrolment in Technical However, the College is making Institutes 637 arrangements to provide curtains for the windows and in the meanwhile the Total 33,168 panes have been pasted with paper. 2707 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2708 Sabah- Honourable Member by assuring Academic Stream 780 him that there will be sufficient number of teachers in secondary Sarawak­ schools by 8-1-1968. In case Academic Stream 1,394 there are still some vacancies in certain subject areas, per­ Pupils will be streamed specifically mission will be granted to fill into academic. technical and vocational• these vacancies in good time. streams only at the beginning of 1968 when the products of comprehensive Visas Penuntut2 education will have reached Form IV. The system of comprehensive education 35. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the has not yet been adopted by Sabah Minister of Education for a clarifica­ and Sarawak. tion on his statement regarding student visas and to state whether he is aware _,, that many parents are greatly perturbed Kekosongan2 dalam Sekolah2 Menengah over this statement and that a clarifica­ 34. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the tion by him in this House will help Minister of Education to state : to clear the air. (a) the reasons why ALL vacancies Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: The system in secondary schools are frozen; to be adopted will be the same as the (b) whether he is aware that in some one now adopted for those students secondary schools there are going to the United Kingdom for their as many as 10 vacancies due to studies. This system has been working resignations and movement of well for a number of years now and staff, and as some of these I am not aware that it has caused any vacancies involve key staff, problem to all concerned. I feel that whether he unfreeze some posts parents should not be unduly worried at least to enable these key with the proposed procedure as it is posts to be filled in time for the done in the best interests of the stu­ new term starting 8-1-1968. dents, parents and the country.

Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: Buku2 Karangan Pensharah2 Universiti (a) In view of the large number of trained secondary school tea­ 36. Tuan Abdul Razak bin Haji Husain chers who will become available bertanya kapada Menteri Pelajaran at the end of this year, it is berapa bilangan buku2 yang di-karang necessary to hold in abeyance oleh pensharah2 Universiti kita yang (especially at this time of the memajukan penggunaan Bahasa Ke­ year) the filling of vacancies till bangsaan dalam bidang Sejarah, these newly trained teachers Ekonomi, Sains dan Teknologi dan have been assigned to schools; apa-kah nama buku2 tersebut serta siapa pengarang-nya masing2. (b) I am aware of the vacancies that exist in secondary schools, but Tuan Mohd. Khir Johari: Buku2 itu I can allay the fears of the ada-lah saperti berikut: 1. Tawarikh- Pengarang Tajok Professor Wang Gangwu Latar Belakang Kebudayaan Pendudok2 di-Tanah Melayu Bahagian Kebudayaan China, Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka, Kuala Lumpur, 1962, 65 pp. Memperkembangkan Bahasa Kebangsaan: Peranan Perseorangan dan Badan2 Kesusasteraan, Bahasa, Kuala Lumpur. 1960. Kehidupan Intelek di-Malaysia, Dewan Mosharakat, Kuala Lumpur, Jd. V, Bil. 8, 15 Ogos 1967, pp. 23-27. 2709 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2710 Pengarang Tajok Enche' Zainal Abiclin bin Manusia dan Kemajuan (Man and Progress) Abdullah Wahid Language and Literature Agency, Kuala Lumpur. 1961. Telah menulis enam renchana berkenaan dengan Sejarah dan Politik di-Malaya. dalam Journal Dewan Bahasa dan Majallah Dewan Masharakat. W.R. Roff Sejarah Surat2 Khabar Melayu (Monograf Perseku­ tuan Bahasa Melayu, Universiti Malaya. No. l, Saudara Sinaran Berhad, Pulau Pinang, 1967). 41 pp. bergambar. "Perayaan Kenang2an Seruan Azhar pada tahun 1927", Bahasa. Enche' Mohd. Amin bin Sejarah Eropa oleh H. A. L. Fisher (akan di­ Hassan (terjemahan) terbitkan oleh Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka). Selain daripada buku2 yang tersebut Siri Baharu buku2 Sains yang di­ di-atas, Jabatan Sejarah telah mener­ terbitkan oleh Pan Asian Publications bitkan sa-buah majallah dalam dua akan mengeluarkan buku2 teks yang bahasa bertajok "Peninjau Sejarah" dan berikut untok di-jual pada penghujong dalam tiap2 keluaran. renchana ber­ tahun ini: kenaan dengan perkara2 Sejarah ada­ 1. Sains 'Am I untok Tingkatan I lah di-tulis dalam Bahasa Kebangsaan. 2. Sains 'Am II untok Tingkatan II Beberapa renchana telah di-terbitkan oleh ahli2 Jabatan itu dalam Bahasa 3. Sains 'Am III untok Tingkatan III Kebangsaan, terutama sa-kali dalam Sains 'Am, Buku I sedang di-ter- Majallah Dewan Bahasa dan majallah jemahkan ka-dalam Bahasa Kebangsaan Dewan Masharakat. dan akan di-ikuti oleh buku2 yang lain. 2 2. Sains dan Teknoloji- Buku teks yang lain dalam siri ini akan di-terbitkan dalam tahun 1968 Sa-kumpolan Professor2 dan Pen­ dan ada-lah cli-jangka menchukopi sharah2 telah menulis satu siri baharu untok keperluan2 semua tiuku2 teks bagi buku2 berkenaan dengan Sains dan pengajaran sains dari Tingkatan I Ilmu Hisab untok di-gunakan dalam hingga Sijil Persekolahan. Sekolah2 Menengah. Buku2 teks ini sedang cli-terjemahkan ka-dalam Bahasa Siri Baharu buku2 Ilmu Hisab akan Kebangsaan untok cli-gunakan di­ mula di-terbitkan dalam tahun 1968 dan sekolah2 oleh Dr H. T. Chio. akan memperkenalkan ilmu hisab yang 2 Pengarang2-nya ia-lah: baharu kapada sekolah . Siri ini akan juga di-terjemahkan ka-dalam Bahasa Sains- Kebangsaan. Professor A. I. Berry Professor Kiang Ai Kim Fakulti Pertanian telah menulis sa­ Dr Francis Morsingh buah buku kechil dalam Bahasa Mr S. Na Negara Kebangsaan berkenaan dengan Injin Professor Thong Saw Pak Pembakaran Dalam (Internal Combus­ tion Engine) untok Pemandu Tractor llmuHisab- Kerajaan dan di-gunakan dalam kursus2 Professor C. J. Eliezer pendek (tetapi belum di-terbitkan) oleh Professor Teh Hoon Heng Mr I. M. Beeny dan Enche' Anuwar Penyunting- bin Mahmud. Beberapa buah buku2 2 Professor Thong Saw Pak teks dan chatitan sedang cli-secliakan dalam Bahasa Inggeris dan di-susun Penterjemah- dengan chara yang mudah di-terjemah. Dr H. T. Chio. kan ka-dalam Bahasa Kebangsaan. 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2712 2711 .~ 3. Ekonomi- Pengarang Tajok Professor Ungku Abdul Renchana2 Ekonomi dan Kemiskinan. Aziz Istilah Ekonomi. Dr Lim Chong Yah Bahasa Kebangsaan dalam Fakulti Ekonomi dan Pentadbiran, Universiti Malaya (Renchana). The books are as follows: 1. History- Author Title Professor Wang Gangwu Latar Belakang Kebudayaan Pendudok2 di-Tanah Melayu Bahagian Kebudayaan China, Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka, Kuala Lumpur, 1962, 65 pp. Memperkembangkan Bahasa Kebangsaan: Peranan Perseorangan dan Badan2 Kesusasteraan, Bahasa, Kuala Lumpur, 1960. Kehidupan Intelek di-Malaysia, Dewan Masharakat, Kuala Lumpur, Jd. V, Bil. 8, 15 Ogos 1967, pp. 23-27. Enche' Zainal Abidin bin Manusia dan Kemajuan (Man and Progress) Abdullah Wahid Language and Literature Agency, Kuala Lumpur, 1961. Wrote six articles on History and Politics in Malaya, in the Journal Dewan Bahasa and the magazine Dewan Masharakat. W.R. Roff Sejarah Surat2 Khabar Melayu (Monograf Perseku­ tuan Bahasa Melayu, Universiti Malaya, No. 1, Saudara Sinaran Berhad, Pulau Pinang, 1967), 41 pp. illustrated. "Perayaan Kenang2an Seruan Azhar pada tahun 1927", Bahasa. Enche' Mohd. Amin bin Sejarah Eropa oleh H. A. L. Fisher (to be published Hassan (translation) by Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka. In addition to the above the History The authors are: Department publishes a bilingual journal, Peninjau Sejarah, in every issue Science- of ·which articles on Historical subjects Professor A. J. Berry appear in the National Language. Professor Kiang Ai Kim Dr Francis Morsingh Numerous articles have been Mr S. Na Nagara published by members of the Depart­ Professor Thong Saw Pak ment in the National Language, princi­ pally in the Journal Dewan Bahasa and Mathematics- the magazine Dewan· Masharakat. Professor C. J. Eliezer 2. Science and Technology- Professor Teh Hoon Heng A group of Professors and Lecturers Editor- have written a new series of books on Professor Thong Saw Pak Science and Mathematics for use in Translator- Secondary Schools. These textbooks are being translated into the National Dr H. T. Chio .. Language for use in Schools by The New Series of Science published Dr H. T. Chio. by Pan Asian Publications will have the 2713 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2714 :/-. following textbooks on sale by the end The New Series of Mathematics will of this year : begin publications in 1968 and will introduce the new· mathematics to 1. General Science I for Form I. schools. This series will also be trans­ 2. General Science II for Form II. lated into the National Language. 3. General Science III for Form III. The Faculty of Agriculture has writ­ ten a booklet in the National Language on Internal Combustion Engines for General Science, Book I is being Government Tractor-drivers used in translated into the National Language; short courses (but not published) by the rest will follow. The remaining texts Mr J.M. Beeny and Enche' Anuwar bin in this series will be published in 1968 Mahmud. Several textbooks and notes and are expected to cover all textbook are being prepared in English and are requirements in science teaching from designed for easy translation into the Form I to School Certificate. National Language. 3. Economics- Author Title Professor Ungku Abdul Renchana2 Ekonomi dan Kemiskinan. Aziz Istilah Ekonomi. Dr Lim Chong Yah Bahasa Kebangsaan dalam Fakulti Ekonomi dan Pentadbiran, Universiti Malaya (Article). KEMENTERIAN KESffiATAN The number of sub-centres set up under the Rural Development Project Pusat Kesihatan Kechil in each State of West Malaysia in 1967 37. Tuan Haji Abu Bakar bin Hamzah is as follows- bertanya kapada Menteri Kesihatan States Sub-centres set up berapa buah pusat kesihatan kechil in 1967 (kelinik kampong) yang telah di-dirikan Perlis Kedah di-bawah Ranchangan Pembangunan Penang 1 Luar Bandar dalam tiap2 Negeri di­ Perak 2 Malaysia Barat dalam tahun 1967. Se Jang or 1 Negri Sembilan 1 Menteri Kesihatan (Tuan Bahaman Malacca 1 bin Samsudin): Bilangan pusat ke­ Joh ore 3 KeIan tan 1 sihatan kechil (kelinik kampong) yang Trengganu 3 telah di-dirikan di-bawah Ranchangan Pahang 1 Pembangunan Luar Bandar dalam tiap2 Negeri di-Malaysia Barat dalam tahun 14 1967 ia-lah saperti berikut- Pusat kesihatan Malaria Negeri 2 kechil yang telah di-dirikan dalam 38. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the tahun 1967 Minister of Health to state : Perlis Kedah (a) the number of cases of malaria Pulau Pinang 1 that has been reported for the Perak 2 years 1960 to 1966, giving the Selangor 1 figures separately for each year; Negeri Sembilan 1 (b) whether he is aware that despite Melaka 1 the millions spent on the eradi­ Johor 3 cation of malaria, the disease, Kelantan 1 far from being eradicated, is Trengganu 3 actually on the increase particu­ Pahang 1 larly in the rural areas and in 14 F.L.D.A. Schemes, and if so, whether he will press more 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2716 2715 ~ vigorously for the suppression Explmudion: These figures are those of malaria if its eradication is notified as microscopically not possible. positive from Government and State Hospitals. Tuan Bahaman bin Samsudin: (a) Bilangan yang mendapat pe­ (b) Considerable sums of money nyakit malaria yang telah di­ had been spent on the control of laporkan bagi tahun2 di-antara malaria in various parts of the 1960 dan 1966 ia-lah- country in the past particularly 1960 ...... 7,052 in the town areas and their 1961 ...... 7,874 environs. It is true that the inci­ 1962 ...... 8,053 dence of malaria in the rural 1963 ...... 9,226 areas has been high and being 1964 ...... 7,149 aware of this a pilot project was carried out in 1961. This pilot 1965 ...... 8,328 project was necessary in order to 1966 ...... 6,696 examine the administrative and Penjelasan: Angka2 itu ia-lah kejadian2 technical problems involved in yang telah di-pereksa di­ a country wide eradication pro­ Rumah2 Sakit dan di-dapati gramme. As a result it was sah (positive). found that certain measures were (b) Wang yang banyak telah di­ feasible and therefore a systema­ belanjakan untok mengawal tic programme for a country penyakit malaria di-beberapa wide eradication of malaria was tempat di-dalam negeri ini pada begun early this year starting masa yang lepas terutama sa-kali from the northern part of West di-kawasan2 bandar dan se­ Malaysia. keliling-nya. Benar bilangan mereka2 yang mendapat penyakit 39. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the malaria di-kawasan Luar Bandar Minister of Health to state : ada-lah besar dan dengan ke­ (a) if he aware of the concern shown sedaran ini-lah maka satu Projek by the Deputy Prime Minister Perchubaan telah di-jalankan di­ that rural development projects dalam tahun 1961. Projek Per­ would be jeopardised if no steps chubaan ini ada-lah mustahak were taken to curb malaria in guna untok memereksa masaalah West Malaysia, and pertadbiran dan teknikal yang akan terlibat di-dalam rancha­ (b) if so, what steps his Ministry ngan untok membasmikan pe­ has taken not only to curb but nyakit itu di-seluroh negara. eradicate malaria in West Hasil daripada itu beberapa2 Malaysia. langkah di-dapati munasabah dan oleh itu satu ranchangan Tuan Bahaman bin Samsudin: yang terator untok membasmi (a) Ya. penyakit malaria di-seluroh (b) Satu ranchangan untok mem­ negeri ini telah di-mulakan awal basmi penyakit malaria sa-benar­ tahun ini mulai daripada baha­ nya telah di-mulakan di-dalam gian utara Malaysia Barat. Malaysia Barat sejak awal tahun (a) The number of malaria cases ini mulai daripada bahagian reported for the years 1960 to utara negeri ini. Ranchangan ini 1966 is as follows- berkehendakkan kira $85 juta 1960 7,052 bagi masa sa-puloh tahun untok 1961 7,874 menjayakan-nya. 1962 8,053 1963 9,226 (a) Yes. 1964 7,149 (b) A malaria eradication pro­ 1965 8,328 gramme has actually started in 1966 6,696 West Malaysia since early this 2717 .,,__ 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2718 year, starting from the northern It was in the news often because the part of the country. It will local leaders wanted to draw Govern­ require about $85 million over ment's attention to it. The HOODOO, ten years to successfuliy carry if any, was of the doctors' making. out this programme. Pusat Penyelidekan Perubatan 42. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the Buang Anak Minister of Health what progress has 40. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the been made to grant autonomous status Minister of Health to give the figures to the Institute of Medical Research. of abortions that have been treated in the hospitals in West Malaysia for the Tuan Bahaman bin Samsudin: Satu years 1960 to 1966, giving the figures Jawatan-kuasa yang di-pengerusikan separately for each year. oleh Pengarah Perjawatan telah di­ bentok untok menimbangkan soal memberi taraf otonomi kapada Pusat Tuan Bahaman bin Samsudin: Di­ Penyelidekan Perubatan itu. Pusat itu bawah ini ada-lah angka2 kejadian 2 sekarang sedang menyediakan satu gugor yang telah di-rawati di-Rumah kertas kerja yang lengkap untok di­ Sakit- bentangkan kapada Jawatan-kuasa itu 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 kelak. 8, 722 9,267 9,984 10,349 9,689 9,827 8,824 A Committee has been formed under The following table shows the number the Chairmanship of the Director of of abortion cases treated in Government Establishments, to go into the question Hospitals- of granting an autonomous status to 1960 1961 1962 1963 1964 1965 1966 the Institute for Medical Research. The 8, 722 9,267 9,984 10,349 9,689 9,827 8,824 Institute is now preparing detailed W'Orking papers for presentation to the Committee. Rumah Sakit Daerah, Parit Bontar Bank Mata 41. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Health to state the reason 43. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the why the District Hospital in Parit Minister of Health whether the Govern­ Buntar is always in the news as being ment proposes to establish an eye bank, perenially without a doctor and whether and if so, to give details. there is a HOODOO connected with Tuan Bahaman bin Samsudin: Ya, this hospital_ that doctors who are Kerajaan berchadang hendak menuboh­ posted there go into private practice kan satu bank mata dan berkenaan soon after. perkara ini satu Rang Undang2 Pemindahan Mata sedang di-sediakan. Tuan Bahaman bin Samsudin: Yes, the Government proposes the Rumah Sakit Parit Buntar telah tidak establishment of an eye bank and for mempunyai doktor yang tinggal tetap this purpose a Corneal Grafting Bill is di-situ daripada llhb Julai, 1967 being prepared. hingga 31hb Ogos, 1967. Rumah Sakit Baham untok Telok Anson Perkara ini telah selalu tersiar di­ surat2 khabar ia-lah di-sebabkan ketua2 44. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the tempat hendak menarek perhatian Minister of Health to give a categorical Kerajaan di-atas perkara itu. Jikalau­ statement as to whether there are any lah ada perkara2 tidak bagitu baik plans to build a new hospital for Telok berlaku ada-lah di-sebabkan oleh per­ Anson. buatan doktor2 itu sendiri. Tuan Baba.man bin Samsudin: Tidak ada ranchangan hendak mendirikan The Parit Buntar Hospital was with­ Rumah Sakit Baharu di-Telok Anson out a resident doctor only from 11th dalam Ranchangan Malaysia Yang July, 1967 to 31st August, 1967. Pertama. 2719 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2720 Rumah Sakit Telok Anson telah di­ The Government has a programme perbaiki dan di-perbesarkan semenjak of providing piped water supplies to tahun 1961 dengan memakan belanja the rural areas. The Ministry of Health kira2 sa-tengah juta ringgit. has a rural health programme designed tQ eliminate these diseases in the rural There is no proposal for a new areas by providing curative and pre­ hospital at Telok Anson under the ventive services in the various health First Malaysia Development Plan. centres and clinics established through­ Many improvements and extensions out the country. have been made to the Teluk Anson A special pilot project has also been Hospital since 1961 at a cost of about established in each State in West half a million dollars. Malaysia to provide well water supplies, and latrines, to carry out the Penyakit2 Kepialu, Berak Darah, Kura dan cleanliness of kampongs and also a Chaching campaign to deworm all school 45. Toan C. V. Devan Nair asks the children in the area. Minister of Health what programme the Government has adopted to elimi­ There is now a programme to eradi­ nate the incidence of typhoid, dysentry, cate malaria throughout the country malaria and worm infestation in the including rural areas which will take rural areas. about 10 years at a cost of about $85 million. Tuan Bahaman bin Samsodin: Penya­ kit2 kepialu, berak darah, demam kura Tangga Gaji Pegawai2 Perubatan 2 dan chaching ada-lah penyakit yang 46. Toan Edmond Langgo anak Saga di-bawa oleh ayer dan oleh itu ada-lah asks the Minister of Health to state berkaitan dengan bekalan ayer dan whether the Central Government will keadaan kesihatan di-sekeliling di­ accept a proposal from the Sarawak kawasan Luar Bandar. State Government in respect of salary Kerajaan ada ranchangan untok scale for all her Medical Officers in membekalkan ayer\ paip bagi kawasan order to bring this to the level that has Luar Bandar. Kementerian Kesihatan been enjoyed by the similar Officers in ada ranchangan kesihatan yang ber­ West Malaysia. tujuan untok membasmikan penyakit2 ini di-Luar Bandar dengan mengadakan Toan Bahaman bin Samsodin: kemudahan2 untok menchegah penyakit Tugas2 Surohanjaya Khas Gaji ada-lah itu dan mengubati-nya di-Pusat2 Ke­ meliputi Sabah dan Sarawak. Oleh sihatan dan Kelinik2 di-seluroh negeri yang demikian, sebarang chadangan ini. yang sa-demikian akan di-kaji terlebeh dahulu berdasarkan kapada shor2 Satu Projek perchubaan khas telah Surohanjaya Khas Gaji itu. di-tubohkan di-tiap2 negeri di-Malaysia Barat untok membekalkan ayer perigi The terms of reference of the Special dan menyediakan jamban2, member­ Commission on Salaries covered Sabah sehkan kampong2 dan juga kampen and Sarawak. Any such proposal, untok membasmikan kanak2 daripada therefore, will have to be studied in chaching di-sekolah2 di-kawasan itu. the light of the recommendati-ons of the Commission. Sekarang ada ranchangan untok membasmikan panyakit malaria di­ Doktor2 Prebet di-Perak seluroh negeri ini, termasok-lah kawa­ san Luar Bandar, yang akan memakan 47. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the masa 10 tahun dan menelan belanja Minister of Health to state: kira2 $85 juta. (a) the reasons why he has divided Typhoid, dysentery and worm infes­ private practitioners in Perak tation are waterborne diseases and into good doctors and bad therefore related to wholesome water doctors; supply and adequate environmental (b) whether he is aware that if he sanitation in the rural areas. has reasons to believe that there 2721 ---- 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2722 are bad doctors he should report nya di-dapati menghidap penya­ such doctors to the Malayan kit itu (positive). Medical Council which can deal (c) Daripada 12 kejadian itu 5 dari­ with such cases; and pada-nya ia-lah daripada ke­ (c) whether he is also aware that luarga yang tinggal berjiran. such an arbitrary generalization (d) Mereka menggunakan perigi is unethical and is totally yang sama yang mengandongi unacceptable to the medical kekotoran yang banyak sekali profession. (contaminated). Tuan Bahaman bin Samsudin: (e) Puncha merebakan-nya penyakit itu tidak dapat di-tentukan (a) Ini ada-lah penyataan yang 2 benar; ini ada-lah meliputi betul2 tetapi sa-orang kanak sechara umum di-dalam semua perempuan yang berumor 3 perkara. tahun telah mati 2 minggu sa-belum merebak-nya penyakit (b) Apabila saya mendapat ketera­ itu ada-lah di-shaki menghidap ngan bahawa doktor2 telah penyakit itu. Dia mati di-sebab­ melanggar undang2 dan per­ kan "demam panas". atoran Undang Pendaftaran Perubatan (The Medical Regis­ (f) Langkah2 yang telah di-ambil- tration Ordinance) saya akan Pendudok kampong itu ber­ melaporkan-nya kapada Majlis jumlah 341 orang. 60% dari­ Perubatan (Medical Council). pada-nya telah di-beri ubat (c) Jawapan-nya saperti di-dalam T .A.B. untok menahan daripada (a). mendapat penyakit itu. Semua perigi2 telah di-bersehkan de­ (a) This is a statement of fact; this ngan ubat "chlorine". Pendudok2 applies generally in all matters telah di-nasihatkan supaya mem­ and subjects. bena jamban2 siram. (b) When I have the evidence that Semua budak2 sekolah di­ doctors infringe the rules and Rantau telah di-suntek untok regulations of The Medical menahankan daripada serangan Registration Ordinance, I will penyakit itu. report such cases to the Medical Council. (a) In mid-September 1967, an outbreak of enteric fever occur­ (c) The answer is at (a). red at Kampong Linsum, Mukim Rantau, Negeri Sembilan. I>e1na1n 1'epialu (b) 16 cases were admitted into 48. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the General Hospital, Seremban, 12 Minister of Health to give details of the cases were reported positive. outbreak of typhoid fever in the (c) The 12 cases came from 5 ·Tampin and Ran tau areas in Septem­ families living next door to one ber, and the measures his Ministry has another. taken to contain and stamp out that outbreak. (d) They use the same well which was highly contaminated. Tuan Bahaman bin Samsudin: (e) The source of the outbreak has (a) Di-dalam pertengahan bulan not been pin-pointed but a 3 September, 1967, demam kepialu year old child who died about telah berlaku di-Kampong Lin­ 2 weeks prior to the .outbreak sum, Mukim Rantau, Negeri is suspect. She died of "demam Sembilan. panas". (b) 16 kejadian (cases) telah di­ (f) Measures taken-- masokkan ka-Rumah Sakit The kampong inhabitants total Umum, Seremban, 12 daripada- 341 persons. 60 % of them had 2723 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2724 been immunized with T.A.B. (a) A secondary school student from vaccines. All the wells have Alor Gajah English School was been sterilised with chlorine. admitted into Malacca General The people have been advised Hospital on 20th September, to construct proper pour-flush 1967 for epilepsy. She was read­ latrines. mitted on 8th October, 1967, for All school children in the further treatment and is still in Mukim of Rantau have been hospital. When she was first immunized. admitted there was suspicion that she was taking "pep pills" Pil Penyegar but after investigation there was no evidence to support this 49. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the suspicion; Minister of Health to state : (a) if he is aware that a secondary (b) The general allegations that pep school student in Malacca was pills are taken by students are admitted to the General Hospital being investigated by the there after she had stopped Ministry of Education. When taking 'pep pills; and this allegation is proved true. action will be taken by the (b) if so. what steps his Ministry Ministry of Health under the has taken to stop the sale of Foods and Drugs Ordinance. In such drugs to the students of point of fact a committee has this country. been formed to carry out investi­ Tuan Bahaman bin Samsudin: gations regarding the alleged illegal sale of dangerous drugs. (a) Sa-orang penuntut daripada Sekolah lnggeris Alor Gajah KEMENTERIAN HAL EHWAL telah di-masokkan ka-Rumah DALAM NEGERI Sakit Umum Melaka pada 20hb September, 1967 kerana meng­ Orang2 Tabanan hidap penyakit gila babi. Dia SO. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the telah di-masokkan pada 8hb Minister of Home Affairs to state the Oktober, 1967, untok berubat names of all detainees who have been lagi dan sekarang maseh lagi di­ released from Taiping, Batu Gajah. Rumah Sakit itu. Apabila dia Muar and Kuching between the period mula2 di-masokkan ka-Rumah 1st August, 1967 and 15th October, Sakit, telah di-shaki bahawa dia 1967. telah memakan pil penyegar {pep pill) tetapi apabila sudah Menteri Hal Ehwal Dalam Negeri di-siasat tidak di-dapati bokti2 (Tun Haji Abdul Razak bin Dato' yang menunjokkan perkara itu Hussain): Bilangan orang2 tahanan benar; yang telah di-bebaskan dari Penjara Taiping, Tempat Tahanan Khas, Batu (b) Tudohan sechara umum bahawa Gajah, Tempat Tahanan Muar dan pil penyegar (pep pill) ada-lah 2 Tempat Tahanan Perlindongan. Ku­ di-makan oleh penuntut sedang ching dari 1hb Ogos, 1967 hingga 15hb di-siasat oleh Kementerian Pela­ Oktober, 1967, ada-lah saperti berikut; jaran. Apabila tudohan ini di­ dapati benar kelak tindakan Tempat2 Tahanan- akan di-ambil oleh Kementerian (a) Penjara Taiping, Perak . . . 4 2 Kesihatan di-bawah Undang (b) Tempat Tlhanan Khas. Makanan dan Ubat Berachun Batu Gajah ...... 28 (Food and Drugs Ordinance). Yang sa-benar-nya, satu jawa­ (c) Tempat Tahanan Muar . . . 43 tan-kuasa telah di-bentok untok (d) Pusat Tahanan Perlindo- menjalankan penyiasatan ber­ ngan, Kuching ...... 49 kenaan dengan tudohan akan penjualan sechara haram ubat 124 yang berachun yang merbahaya. 2725 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2726 Nama orang2 tahanan itu ada-lah 15. Kastor bin Hj. Taib saperti berikut: 16. Bakin bin Samati Penjara Taiping- 17. Hamid bin Kumpol 1. Lee Siew Yap (j.) 18. Ahmad bin Hj. Abdul Rahim 2. Chan Tai Mooi alias Chan Chat 19. Tan Kim Kan Yau {f.) 20. Hi. Ahmad bin Hi. Abdullah 3. Lee Ying alias Lee Muk Ying (/.) 21. Go Poon alias Wu Um 4. Wong Chin Wha alias Wong It 22. Teh Ah Kau alias Teh Ah Tek Siew {f.) 23. Lee Nam Seng Tempat Tahanan Khas, Batu Gajah- 24. Mohd. Ali bin Salleh 25. 1. Chan Chin Loy Selamat bin Bakri 26. alias 2. Bong Nget Lan Mohamed bin Said Ahmad Lori 3. Hasnol bin Abdul Hadi 27. Lau Kok Seng alias Lau Kok Kuan 28. alias 4. Ang Teng Te..: Tan Chin Seng Tee Chin Sen 5. Goh Boon San 29. Abdul Mohetd Yussof/ Aswan 6. Manacadu Kumar Raiakumar 30. Hashim bin Amin alias Lisot 31. 7. Lim Chee Hock Tuan Mat bin Tuan Kechik 8. Lau Kam Hong 32. Abdul Rahman bin Awang 33. 9. Sia Kwee Song Mahasini bin Hi. Noor 34. 10. Lee Kim Soon Abdul Kahar bin Abdul Hamid 11. Chia Poh Soon 35. Osman bin Zainal Abidin 36. 12. Nai Tee Kia (Adas Lai Beng Hong Yap Ser Jin 37. 13. Salwi bin Hamid Fong Swee Suan 38. 14. Loh Ah Meng alias Loh Ah Kim Tan Teck Wah 15. Lim Cheng Kooi 39. Hang Cheng alias Lee Teow Ming 16. Lim Chin Chai 40. Lim Oon Chai 17. Lee Ban alias Lee Kong Lin 41. Shiry bin Mamin 18. Chong Long Chee 42. Awang bin Said 19. Loh Ah Peng alias Loh Goh Sin 43. Ong Kee Heng alias Ong Kim Seng 20. Kong Yook Khen Pusat Tahanan Perlindongan Kuching-- 21. Lam Kam Hon alias Lam Kam Onn 1. 22. Chan Kwai Fong Hui Sung Sang 2. Yap Chung Fong 23. Yeoh Kim Hai alias Yeoh Ah Poh 3. Liew Tan 24. Ng Lam Beng 4. Chan Fah 25. Tan Ah You 5. Lee Cho Whatt 26. Yusof bin Abu Bakar 6. Ngu Choo Yitk 27. Chong Yew Thiam 28. Lee Tee Tong alias Lee See Chung 7. Cheung Sui Tak 8. Lee Seng Nam Tempat Tahanan Mual'- 9. Lee Thian Choi 1. Tay Guan Soon 10. Kung Sai Hing 2. Lim Baba alias Lim Teik Boon 11. Hu Teh Hsing 3. Yee Kim Swee alias Ip Boon Kia 12. Khong Yew Ming 4. Tan Keng Goh alias Tan Min Hoe 13. Chin Muk Lim 5. Ong Kian Seng 14. Tsoi Kah Yung 6. Kang Cheok Nguang 15. Fan Yun 7. Mizan bin Puteh 16. Thien Chian 8. Eon Beng Koon 17. Chong Kin Thun 9. Lye Tin Patt alias Lai Cheng Fah 18. Yoon Yang Ching 10. Abdul Hadi biu Mohd. Yunus 19. Bong Shian Phin 11. Wahab bin Hi. Bachik 20. Bong Boon Kee 12. Teo Hock Cheng 21. Jong Kim Patt 13. Koh Nai Sim 22. Then Sian 14. Abdul Rahman bin Rais 23. Tsoi Ka Pan 2727 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2728

24. Bong Kim Lee Batu Gajah Special Detention Camp- 25. Lee Fang 1. Chan Chin Loy 26. Chong Wai Sang 2. Bong Nget Lan 27. Chong Vui Siong 3. Hasnol bin Abdul Hadi 28. Shum Shu Moi 4. Ang Teng Tee 29. Yeong Tat Sau 5. Goh Boon San 30. Yeung Naau Fa (f.) 6. Manacadu Kumar Rajakumar 31. Chong Hin Hup 7. Lim Chee Hock 32. Lau Pit Shing 8. Lau Kam Hong 33. Loh Suk Khim (/.) 9. Sia Kwee Song 34. Tsoi Mei Mei (f.) 10. Lee Kim Soon 35. Yeung Chin Sau 11. Chia Poh Soon 36. Tsoi Nyuk Hiong (f.) 12. Nai Tee Kia aiias Lai Beng Hong 37. Lo Shuk Ming (f.) 13. Salwi bin Hamid 38. Yu Pui To (f.) 14. Loh Ah Meng alias Loh Ah Kim 39. Yu Pui Yuk (f.) 15. Lim Cheng Kooi 40. Wong Kam Yip (/.) 16. Lim Chin Chai 41. Loh Suk Wan (f.) 17. Lee Ban alias Lee Kong Lin 42. Yong Chou Chuen 18. Chong Long Chee 43. Li Yuk Sang· 19. Loh Ah Peng alias Loh Goh Sin 44. Lai Tse Man 20. Kong Y ook Khen 45. Yong Ching Siew 21. Lam Kam Hon alias Lam Kam Onn 46. Lee Jew Kien alias Li Yau Kuen (f.) 22. Chan Kwai Fong 47. Jong Cho Kong (f.) 23. Yeoh Kim Hai alias Yeoh Ah Poh 48. Lee Ah Cheok alias Lee Chi Yin 24. Ng Lam Beng alias Lee Tze Shyan alias Lee Ceh 25. Tan Ah You Cheok alias Lee Ah Shek 26. Yusof bin Abu Bakar 49. Lee Kui Him alias Li Kwai Hing 27. Chong Yew Thiam The number of detainees released 28. Lee Tee Tong alias Lee See Chung from the Taiping Prison, Batu Gajah Special Detention Camp, Muar Deten­ Muar Detention Camp­ tion Camp and the Centre of Protective i. Tay Guan Soon Custody Kuching during the period 1st 2. Lim Baba alias Lim Teik Boon August, 1967-15th October, 1967, are 3. Yee Kim Swee alias Ip Boon Kia as follows: 4. Tan Keng Goh alias Tan Min Hoc Place of detention- 5. Ong Kian Seng (a) Taiping Prison ...... 4 6. Kang Cheok Nguang 7. Mizan bin Puteh (b) Batu Gajah Special De- tention Camp ...... 28 8. Eon Beng Koon 9. Lye Tin Patt alias Lai Cheng Fah (c) Muar Detention Camp . . . 43 10. Abdul Hadi bin Mohd. Yunus (d) Centre of Protective Cus- 11. Wahab bin Hi. Bachik tody, Kuching ...... 49 12. Teo Hock Cheng 13. Koh Nai Sim 124 14. Abdul Rahman bin Rais 15. Kastor bin Hj. Taib The names of the detainees who were released are as follows : 16. Bakin bin Samati 17. Hamid bin Kumpol Taiping Prison- 18. Ahmad bin Hj. Abdul Rahim 1. (J.) Lee Siew Yap 19. Tan Kim Kan 2. Chan Tai Mooi alias Chan Chat Yau (f.) 20. Hj. Ahmad bin Hj. Abdullah 3. Lee Ying alias Lee Muk Ying (/.) 21. Go Poon alias Wu Um 4. Wong Chin Wha alias Wong It 22. Teh Ah Kau alias Teh Ah Tek Siew (/.) 23. Lee Nam Seng ~- 2729 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2730

24. Mohd. Ali bin Salleh 33. Loh Suk Khim (f.) 25. Selamat bin Bakri 34. Tsoi Mei Mei (/.) 26. Mohamed bin Said alias Ahmad Lori 35. Yeung Chin Sau 27. Lau Kok Seng alias Lau Kok Kuan 36. Tsoi Nyuk Hiong (/.) 28. Tan Chin Seng alias Tee Chin Sen 37. Lo Shuk Ming (f.) 29. Abdul Mohctd Yussof/ Aswan 38. Yu Pui To (f.) 30. Hashim bin Amin alias Lisot 39. Yu Pui Yuk (f.) 31. Tuan Mat bin Tuan Kechik 40. Wong Kam Yip (/.) 32. Abdul Rahman bin Awang 41. Loh Suk Wan (f.) 33. Mahasini bin Hi. Noor 42. Yong Chou Choen 34. Abdul Kahar bin Abdul Hamid 43. Li Yuk Sang 35. Osman bin Zai11al Abidin 44. Lai Tse Man 36. Yap Ser Jin 45. Yong Ching Siew 37. Fong Swee Suan 46. Lee Jew Kien alias Li Yau Kuen (f.) 38. Tan Teck Wah 47. Jong Cho Kong (f.) 39. Hang Cheng alias Lee Teow Ming 48. Lee Ah Cheok alias Lee Chi Yin alias Lee Tze Shvan alias Lee Ceh 40. Lim Oon Chai Cheok alias Lee Ah Shek 41. Shiry bin Mamin 49. Lee Kui Him alias Li Kwai Hing 42. Awang bin Said 43. Ong Kee Heng alias Ong Kim Seng 51. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Home Affairs to state : Centre of Protective Custody, Kuching- (a) the age, names, address and occu­ 1. Hui Sung Sang pation of detainees who have 2. Yap Chung Fong been detained between 1st August, 3. Liew Tan 1967, and 15th October, 1967, at 4. Chan Fah Taiping, Batu Gajah, Muar and 5. Lee Cho Whatt Kuching, giving the names sepa­ 6. Ngu Choo Yiik rately for each detention camp; 7. Cheung Sui Tak (b) whether he is aware that the last 8. Lee Seng Nam time I asked a similar question 9. Lee Thian Ch0i vide question 126 of 21-8-1967 10. Kung Sai Hing written answers to questions, only 11. Hu Teh Hsing the names were given and the 12. Khong Yew Ming other details that I enquired were left out. 13. Chin Muk Lim 14. Tsoi Kah Yung Tun Haji Abdul Razak: 30 orang 15. Fan Yun telah di-tahan dari lhb Ogos, 1967 16. Thien Chian hingga 15hb Oktober, 1967, saperti ber­ 17. Chong Kin Thun ikut: 18. Yoon Yang Ching (a) Penjara Taiping ...... 1 19. Bong Shian Phin (b) Tempat Tahanan Khas '2-0. Bong Boon Kee Batu Gajah ...... 13 21. Jong Kim Patt (c) Tempat Tahanan Muar... 8 22. Then Sian (d) Tempat Tahanan Perlin- 23. Tsoi Ka Pan dongan Kuching ... 8 24. Bong Kim Lee 2 25. Lee Fang Nama orang2 tahanan itu ada-lah 26. Chong Wai Sang saperti berikut-- 27. Chong Vui Siong Penjara Taiping- 28. Shum Shu Moi 1. Ang Ah Nya '29. Yeong Tat Sau Tempat Tahanan Khas, Batu Gajah- 30. Yeung Naau Fa (f.) 1. Tan Hock Hin 31. Chong Hin Hup 2. Tse Sze Leung 32. Lau Pit Shing 3. Ang Sim Hup 2731 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2732 4. Chin Kek Kum 30 persons were detained during the 5. Theh Theng Oi period 1st August, 1967 to 15th 6. Soong Choo Heng October, 1967, as follows: 7. Cheu Eng Ket (a) Taiping Prison ...... 1 8. Wong Choong Kwong (b) Batu Gajah Special De- 9. Oon Tuck Kok tention Camp ...... 13 10. Lew Soon Kiak (c) Muar Detention Camp . . . 8 11.. Tan Kim Tek (d) Centre of Protective Cus- 12. Lee Kim alias Looi Thim tody Kuching ...... 8 13. Lau Poon Sek The names of the detainees are as Tempat Tahanan Muar- follows: 1. Chan Wai Ying Taiping Prison- 2. Yip Sau Ming 1. Ang Ah Nya 3. Chan Yong Sin Batu Gajah Special Detention Camp- 4. Lua Ah Seng 1. Tan Hock Hin 5. Chu Choon Yong 2. Tse Sze Leung 6. Chua Pong Thia 3. Ang Sim Hup 7. Ng Wei Siong 4. Chin Kek Kum 8. Tan Chee Kong 5. Theh Theng Oi 6. Soong Choo Heng Tempatan Tahanan Perlindongan Kuching- 7. Cheu Eng Ket 1. Chan Fob Kheng alias Yeung Kong 8. Wong Choong Kwong 2. Yap Chee Fah alias Yap Syn Yiu 9. Oon Tuck Kok 3. Fung Yew Cheung alias Sarlik 10. Lew Soon Kiak 4. Chai Ko Cho alias Ah Choo 11. Tan Kim Tek 5. Tangkin anak Banin 12. Lee Kim alias Looi Thim 6. Tsoi Ko Sing alias Ngai Han 13. Lau Poon Sek 7. Tsoi Lin Fa alias Kim Ping (/.) Muar Detension Camp- 8. Lai Ah Cheung alias Sim Na Mui alias Sam Ying. 1. Chan Wai Yin!( 2. Yip Sau Ming 2 (b) 'Alamat ·dan keterangan lain 3. Chan Yong Sin telah tidak di-beri dalam jawapan 4. Lua Ah Seng saya kapada soalan oleh Ahli Yang Berhormat itu pada me­ 5. Chu Choon Yong 6. Chua Pong Thia shuarat Parlimen y~ng lalu itu untok menjaga keselamatan. Saya 7. Ng Wei Siong ada-lah berpendapat penyiaran 8. Tan Chee Kons keterangan2 itu tidak akan meng­ untongkan ra'ayat dan Negara. Centre of Protective Custody Kuching- Bagi menjawab soalan ini saya 1. Chan Fob Kheng alias Yeung Ko111 tidak juga memberi keterangan2 2. Yap Chee Fah alias Yap Syn Yiu itu. Waiau bagaimana pun sekira­ 3. Fung Yew Cheung alias Sarlik nya Ahli Yang Berhormat itu 4. Chai Ko Cho alias Ah Choo ada sebab2 yang munasabah 5. Tangkin anak Banin untok kepentingan ra'ayat negeri ini supaya keterangan2 berkenaan 6. Tsoi Ko Sing alias Ngai Han dengan mana 2 orang tahanan itu 7. Tsoi Lin Fa alias Kim Ping (/.) di-ketahui oleh-nya, boleh-lah 8. Lai Ah Cheung alias Sim Na Mui Ahli Yang Berhormat itu menulis alias Sam Ying kapada Kementerian saya dan (b) The addresses and other parti­ saya akan menimbangkan per­ culars were omitted in my reply mintaan-nya mengikut merit tiap2 to the question by the Honoura­ permintaan itu. ble Member in the previous ;:;,_. 2733 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2734 meeting of Parliament for reasons surat2 saperti itu tidak di­ of security. I did not consider it sampaikan kapada orang2 in the public interest to disclose tahanan. Kirim-mengirim surat2 these details. Similarly, I am not kapada orang2 tahanan dan providing these particulars in my daripada orang2 tahanan ada-lah reply to the present question. terta'alok kapada timbangan However, if the Honourable keselamatan. Member has good reasons in the (a) I am not aware of any letters public interest to know these addressed to the Honourable details regarding any individual Member by detainees from detainee he may write to my Muar and Kuching which had Ministry and I shall consider his not been forwarded to him; request on the merit of each case. (b) While I agree that Members of 52. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Parliament are entitled to com­ Minister of Home Affairs to state : municate with citizens of this (a) if he is aware that most of the country, I must also point out letters from detainees in Kuching that in the interest of security and Muar to me have not and in order to ensure proper reached me at all; discipline in places of detention, ~ (b) the reason for not forwarding the Superintendents of the places these letters to me and whether of detention have been given • a Member of Parliament is not the power under the Detained entitled to unimpeded communi­ Persons Rules to stop any 4 cation with the citizens of this letters from detainees which are , country. considered objectionable i.e. if the contents of the letters are Tun Haji Abdul Razak: malicious and intended to pro­ (a) Sa-tahu saya semua surat2 dari voke or further illegal activities orang2 tahanan di-Muar dan outside the places of detention. Kuching yang telah di-alamat­ Similarly any letters from out­ kan kapada Ahli Yang Berhor­ side which are of subversive mat itu telah di-sampaikan nature and which are intended kapada-nya: to incite violence and dis­ obedience of the rules of the (b) Sunggoh pun saya bersetuju places of detention, are not bahawa Ahli2 Parlimen berhak delivered to the detainees. berhubong dengan warga negara Therefore, the transmission of negeri ini, tetapi mustahak di­ letters to and from the detainees tegaskan ia-itu untok kepen­ is subject to this security con­ tingan keselamatan dan untok sideration. menjaga tata-tertib dalam tempat2 tahanan tiap2 penguasa 53. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the tempat2 tahanan telah di-beri Minister of ·Home Affairs to state the kuasa di-bawah "Detained Per­ reasons for the hunger strike of the son Rules" untok menyekat detainees at the Centre of Protective kiriman surat2 yang di-tegah, Custody, Kuching in September, 1967, ia-itu surat2 yang bertujuan and what steps he has taken to prevent menchachi semata2 dan yang the recurrence of such strikes. menggalakkan perbuatan2 haram di-luar tempat tahanan. Bagitu Tun Haji Abdul Razak: The imme­ juga surat2 dari luar yang diate cause of the strike at the Centre di-alamatkan kapada orang2 of Protective Custody, Kuching, in tahanan yang mengandongi September, 1967, was the death of the bahan2 subversib dan yang ber­ detainee Chung Yung Hua, who tujuan untok menggalakkan collapsed and died while playing orang2 tahanan melakukan ke­ basketball. In fact the mood for the kerasan dan melanggar atoran2 strike was already evident even before dalam tempat2 tahanan itu, the death of this detainee. Some of the 2735 1.3 NOVEMBER 1967 2736 leaders among the detainees have been building equipment and materials, such known to be in an aggressive mood as as cement-mixers, water-taps, washing the 10th anniversary of Malaysia sinks and electric wires. approached. A letter dated 30th August, 1967, was sent to me by these detainees, Therefore, in order to protect their in which they set out their opposition properties the house-owners in Diana to the establishment of Malaysia and Estate have to resort to Securicor, stated their intention to boycott some which provides 2 men as guards in the of the food issued to them on Malaysia locality between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. Day as a mark of protest. The death The area falls within the jurisdiction of Chung Yung Hua provided them of the Sungei Way Police Station which with an opportunity to exploit public is manned by an N.C.O. and 8 con­ sympathy with their cause by magni­ stables. Every night, constables on fying their grievances in connection bicycles patrol the area from the Police with living conditions in the Centre Station starting at 10 p.m. until 6 a.m. and, at the same time, to discredit the In addition, Police patrol cars from authorities by attaching the blame for Petaling Jaya also cover the area from the death of Chung Yung Hua to the time to time. The patrol vehicles will Government. be increased to enable regular patrolling It has been the policy of the Govern­ so as to ensure improved coverage of ment to consider favourably any the area. reasonable requests for improvement The house-owners of Diana Estate in the places of detention. However. are only helping themselves by resorting since hunger strikes by detainees are to employment of a private agency for basically politically motivated and their protection of their properties. It is the activities are being co-ordinated with responsibility of private individuals to those of their counterparts outside the look after their properties. The main places of detention, I am not in the task of the Police is to maintain law position to prevent the recurrence of and order. such strikes. I might as well add here that no improvement to food rations or It is not possible for the Police from living conditions at the Centre, however Sungei Way Police Station to mount a generous it may be, will satisfy all the 24-hour watch at the Diana Housing detainees as a good number of them Estate. If this is done, similar requests are so determined to embarrass and will be forthcoming from other housing discredit the Government at the slightest estates throughout the country. excuse. Penjarah Malam Kad Pengenalan 54. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the 55. Tuan Sim Boon Liang asks the Minister of Home Affairs to state if he Minister of Home Affairs to state : is aware that ·the residents of Diana (a) the number of Blue and Red Estate near Sungei Way, Selangor, had Coloured New Identity Cards to resort to Securicor for protection which has been issued to Malay­ against night prowlers, and if so, why sian and non-Malaysian Citizens the police from Sungei Way Police in Sarawak whose ages are 12 Station have been unable to provide and above; such protection to these people. (b) the number of Blue Coloured Tun Haji Abdul Razak: There are New Identity Cards issued to 200 new houses in Diana Estate of Malaysian Citizens in Sarawak which 80 houses are being occupied. whose ages are 21 and above; Since early this year, only 12 cases of and theft have been reported; other cases (c) the number of Red Coloured of criminal offences have not occurred New Identity Cards issued to in the area. According to the Police, non-Malaysian Citizens whose cases of thefts reported concern mainly ages are 21 and above. 2737 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2738 Tun Haji Abdul Razak: The "Anti-Corruption Agency" is a (a) Hingga 15-10-1967 bilangan Government department and not a Kad Pengenalan Baharu Ber­ Commission. Therefore, membership of warna Biru yang telah di­ its staff is confined only public ser­ keluarkan kapada warganegara2 vants. Malaysia di-Sarawak ia-lah Pengakap Sarawak 467,022 dan bilangan Kad 57. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Pengenalan Baharu Berwama Minister of Home Affairs to state if Merah yang di-keluarkan ka­ he is aware of the appeal made by the pada orang2 yang bukan warga­ Minister for Sarawak Affairs Tan Sri negara Malaysia di-Sarawak ia­ Temenggong Jugah to the Prime Minis­ lah 12,486. ter not to disband the Sarawak Scouts; (b) Pada 15-10-1967 sa-banyak and if so, what action has he taken on 326,915 Kad Pengenalan Baharu that appeal and what are the reasons telah di-keluarkan kapada for the decision to disband the Sarawak warganegara2 Malaysia di­ Scouts. Sarawak yang berumor 21 tahun Tun Haji Abdul Razak: The Border dan ka-atas. Scouts have not been disbanded. (c) Pada 15-10-1967 sa-banyak 8,740 Kad Pengenalart Baharu Pasokan Simpanan Persekutuan Berwama Merah telah di-keluar­ 2 58. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the kan kapada orang yang bukan Minister of Home Affairs to state : warganegara Malaysia di­ Sarawak yang berumor 21 tahun (a) if he is aware that a report has dan ka-atas. been made by Mr Koh Eng Huah to the O.C.P.D. George­ (a) As on 15-10-1967 a total of town of the F.R.U. damaging 467,022 Blue Coloured New property; Identity Cards were issued to (b) if he is also aware that very often Malaysian Citizens in Sarawak innocent people have been as­ and a total of J 2,486 Red saulted by the F.R.U.; and Coloured New Identity Cards (c) if so, what steps he has taken were issued to non-Malaysian to curb this animal propensity Citizens in Sarawak. for violence. (b) As on 15-10-1967 the total number of Blue Coloured New Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Identity Cards issued to Malay­ (a) I am aware of a report by Mr sian Citizens whose ages are 21 Koh Eng Huah alleging that at and above was 326,915. 1.45 a.m. on 2nd September, (c) As on 15-10-1967 the total 1967, his scooter which was number of Red Coloured New parked in front of his house was Identity Cards issued to non­ pushed into the drain by two Malaysian Citizens whose ages members of the F.R.U. An are 21 and above was 8,740. investigation into the report was carried out but no action could Badan Penchegah Rasuah Malaysia be instituted against the alleged offenders because the com­ 56. Tuan Edmund Langgo anak Saga plainant and another witness asks the Minister of Home Affairs to were unable to identify the state who are the members of the F.R.U. personnel concerned. Malaysian Anti-Corru,ption Commis­ sion. (b) No. I am not aware. There were, however, two other complain_ts Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Badan this year against members of Penchegah Rasuah ia-lah suatu pejabat the F.R.U. in respect of minor Kerajaan dan bukan suatu Surohanjaya. assaults. Both cases were fully Oleh itu, kakitangan2-nya hanya terdiri investigated hut the Deputy daripada kakitangan2 Kerajaan. Public Prosecutor considered 2739 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2740 that there was insufficient evi­ Departments of Information and dence to justify prosecution or Broadcasting over their terms departmental action. and conditions of service; (c) There is no truth in the Honour­ (b) whether it is true that some able Member's imputation that officers in these two departments the F.R.U. have "animal propen­ do not have proper salary scales; sity for violence", judging from and the above explanation. However, all Officers and Subordinate (c) what steps has his Ministry taken Police Officers of the F.R.U. to rectify such deficiences. have been given orders to exer­ Tuan Senu bin Abdul Rahman: cise strict disciplinary control over their men. (a) As far as I am aware there is no such dissatisfaction as men­ KEMENTERIAN PENERANGAN tioned by the Honourable DAN PENYIARAN Member existing within the Information and Broadcasting Perkhidmatan2 Talivishen di-Sarawak Departments. If there has been dan Sabah any dissatisfaction or problem 59. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the at all, my Ministry would cer­ Minister of Information and Broad­ tainly have given such problem casting to give a firm date as to when immediate attention and further­ television services will be extended to more, the Unions concerned Sarawak and Sabah. would have taken this matter up. On the contrary, I can assure Menteri Penerangan dan Penyiaran the Honourabla Member, that (Tuan Senu bin Abdul Rahman): the staff of these two depart­ Saperti yang saya telah berkali2 sebut­ ments have been carrying out kan di-dalam Dewan ini bahawa saya their duties with great enthusi­ tidak-lah dapat memberi satu tarikh asm of which I am proud. yang tepat bila-kah perkhidmatan2 tali­ vishen akan dapat di-perluaskan ka­ (b) All appointments made for posts Sarawak dan Sabah. Saya sunggoh2 within this Ministry have got berharap bahawa Kerajaan akan dapat proper salary scales which are memperluaskan perkhidmatan itu sa­ made known in every letter berapa chepat yang boleh. Masaalah offering appointment. yang besar sakali ia-lah tentang (c) I am sure, the Honourable kewangan. Kira-nya masaalah ini dapat Member is aware, that the ques­ di-atasi, saya perchaya talivishen dapat tion of salary generally is a di-perluaskan ka-Sarawak dan Sabah problem which is being handled bila2 masa sahaja. Waiau bagaimana by a special independent Salaries pun untok pengetahuan Dewan ini, Commission. Representatives sukachita saya ma'alumkan bahawa from all sections of the staff, pegawai2 di-dalam Kementerian saya have each been given opportuni­ sedang bergiat untok menchari jalan ties to present their cases to the mendapatkan kelulusan untok memper­ said Commission. luaskan perkhidmatan2 talivishen ka­ Sarawak dan Sabah. Semua ranchangan2 telah pun siap. Kami hanya menunggu­ KEMENTERIAN KERAJAAN kan kewangan sahaja. TEMPATAN DAN PERUMAHAN Ranchangan Rumah Murah, Jalan Pekelil.iDg, Sharat2 Perkhidmatan Kuala Lumpur 60. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the 61. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Information and Broad­ Minister for Local Government and casting to state : Housing to state the average cost of (a) whether he is aware that there is erecting one unit of the Industrialised a great deal of dissatisfaction Low-Cost Housing Scheme at Jalan amongst the workers of the Pekeliling, Kuala Lumpur. 2741 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2742 The Minister for Local Government All factors being equal the speed of and Housing (Tuan Khaw Kai-Bob): construction by industrialised system The average cost of erecting one unit is faster than that by conventional of Industrialised Low-Cost Housing method. Scheme at Jalan Pekeliling is $4,400. The reasons being : This excludes the land and site develop­ ment costs which vary from scheme to (1) Mechanical plants and equip­ scheme. ments are employed for the prefabrication of components of 62. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the a dwelling unit in factory and Minister for Local Government and assembling such components at Housing to state whether he is aware the site to form a complete that the cost of erecting the same unit, structure. Thus erection time is by the traditional method employing shortened. local skill and labour would be 30% less. If the answer is negative would (2) A larger proportion of work can the Minister give comparative figures. be carried out beforehand in Tuan Khaw Kai-Bob: The super­ the factory irrespective of structure cost per square foot by weather condition and also if industrialised method of eonstruction necessary by shifts round the at Jalan Pekeliling is $9.27 as compared clock. to $8.70 per square foot by the conven­ The answer to the second part of the tional type of construction at Jalan question is again dependant on many Loke Yew-Phase III which was the factors. But it is anticipated that on latest completed project by conven­ any given project, all factors being tional method. It will be seen that the equal, the saving in time can be between industrialised method of construction 30-40%. is about 6.2% more than the conven­ tional type of construction but having 64. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the regard to the better quality fiats includ- Minis.ter for Local Government and ing the provision of glazed tiling to Housmg to state .the reasons why such the kitchens and bathrooms of all flats Low-Cost Housmg Schemes cannot and the faster speed of construction be given to contractors employing the resulting in lesser interest and less traditional method of building. contribu.tions to the sinking fund as t~e Tuan Khaw Kai-Bob: The employ­ scheme is partly finance 1tahs~d dunng in other countries reveals that construc­ the penod of cons~ction WI~ regard tion time can be reduced by as much to. the Jalan Pekehlmg fl~ts it ~n. be as 50% and secondly that building said that the cost . by . mdustriahsed costs can be reduced in the long run. m~thod of C?nstructi?n. is comparable Moreover the supply of skilled workers with conventional bu1ldmg cost. in the building industry like masons, 63. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the bricklayers, plasterers, etc., was getting Mini~ter for Local Gove~ent and short and expensive and therefore by Housmg to state whether he is aware, industrializing building methods it was that more units can be built by the possible to overcome this problem. It traditional method in th~ s.ame time as is for these reasons that the Ministry that done by the Industnahsed method. of Local Government and Housing If the answer is negative would the wished to introduce industrialized Minister give comparative figures. building methods · and launched two Tuan Khaw Kai-Bob: The speed of pilot projects one at Jalan Pekeliling construction of any given project is and one at Rifle Range, Penang. It is dependant on many factors, such as : not intended that industrialized build­ The size or magnitude of the project. ing methods should supplant traditional The number of contractors. methods of construction-in fact the Weather condition. intention is that both should be com- A vailability of labour and materials. plementary to each other. The infro­ etc. duction of industrialised housing in 2744 2743 13 NOVEMBER 1967 Malaysia, which we believe to be the make provision for adequate ventila­ first country to have successfully done tion and that it would be impossible to so in Asia, has been favourably com· live in such houses. The flats are mented upon recently by _the visiting designed by the Municipal Architect to delegates of the Afro-Asia Housing suit local conditions and the flats are Conference as a major step forward built according to the design. Instead in housing. of raising question based on hear-say I would suggest the Honourable Mem­ ber for Batu, when he has the time, to 65. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the visit the scheme and see for himself the Minister for Local Government and design of the flats. Housing to state whether he is aware that by employing the Industrialised Housing Scheme he is depriving local Undang2 Mengawal Barga Tanah labour of earning a living and utilising 67. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the its skill while encouraging the expendi­ Minister for Local Government and ture of vast sums on imported machi­ Housing whether the Government is nery and technical know-how and aware of the need and urgency to expertise. prevent speculators from manipulating land prices in towns, which benefits Tuan Khaw Kai-Bob: The Minister individuals as against social interests, for Local Government and Housing is and whether the Government would not aware that by employing industria­ introduce legislation to control prices lized building methods, "local labour" of land in towns to eliminate is being deprived of "earning a living speculation. and utilizing its skill". The Jalan Peke­ liling pilot project employs 459 Malay­ Tuan Kbaw Kai-Bob: Article 13 of sian workers in a variety of jobs. Only our Constitution which comes under 3 foreign workers are employed for Part II entitled fundamental liberties their specialized knowledge and skills. provides that no person shall be Three Malaysians are understudying deprived of property save in accor­ them and these specialized workers it is dance with law. Sub-section (2) of the expected will eventually be replaced. same Article further stipulates that no law shall provide for the compulsory It is not true to say that vast sums acquisition or use of property without of money have been spent on imported adequate compensation. Because of machinery and technical know-how and these provisions, before any legislation expertise. For the Jalan Pekeliling to control prices of land in towns, project the contractors spent $1,500,000 (and for that matter, anywhere in on the purchase of tower cranes, Malaysia) can be introduced, the moulds and other imported items which Constitution would first have to be represents about 10% of the total cost amended. I do not consider that of the project. The expenditure should manipulations of land prices in towns be regarded as an investment in new are of such serious proportion as to skills and building technology which warrant the taking .of such a drastic will benefit the building industry as a step to alter one of the most important whole in the country. fundamental rights of the people. 66. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the As far as acquisition of land by the Minister for Local Government and Government for certain public pur­ Housing to state whether he is aware poses are concerned there already that the units being erected do not exists a procedure by which the make provision for adequate ventila­ Government may freeze the price of tion in a tropical country like ours and the . land intended to be acquired. This whether he is aware that it would be is by recourse to a notice under impossible to live in such houses. Section 4 of the Land Acquisition Act 1960, the effect of which will be that Tuan Khaw Kai-Bob: It is not true the owner of the property acquired to say that the flats now under becomes entitled only to compensation construction at J alan Pekeliling do not at the market value of the land as at the 2745 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2746 date of that notice and that dealings acting on behalf of Mr Goh Lai Huat which might take place after that date protesting against the proposed erection would be disregarded for the purpose of one 16-storey block of flats with of determining the compensation to be 60 flats on Lot 2,285 Section 86, Jalan paid. Pahang, Kuala Lumpur; if so, whether he will investigate the objection and see Housing Development (Control and that justice is done. Licensing) Act 68. Dr · Tan Chee Khoon asks the Tuan Khaw Kai-Bob: I am fully Minister for Local Government and aware that a letter of objection dated Housing to state: 19th October, 1967, has been received by the Pesurohjaya lbu Kota. (a) the reasons for the delay in implementing the Housing Deve­ The letter from Messrs Mahendra r- lopment (Control and Licensing) and Hee, acting on behalf of Mr Goh Act; Lai Huat was received in response to a (b) whether the snags have been Notice issued to Mr Goh by the Admi­ ironed out or is the Government nistration on 4th October, 1967, asking giving in to pressure for deve­ if he had any objections to the proposed lopers; and development on Lot No. 2,285, Section 86, Jalan Pahang. The latter procedure (c) when the Act will come into is legally prescribed, and under it, the force. Minister responsible for the Federal Capital is bound to consider the submis­ Tuan Khaw Kai-Bob: sions of the Pesurohjaya Ibu Kota (a) The main reasons for the delay together with any objections and all in implementing the Housing other evidence before any final decision Developers (Control and Licen­ is made. sing) Act is the fram:ng of the Rules and Regulations necessary for bringing the Act into force. KEMENTERIAN PEMBANGUNAN The Rules and Regulations have NEGARA DAN LUAR BANDAR to be consistent with the Consti­ Bantuan Serta-merta ka-Kawasan2 tution and the National Land Pilehanraya Code particularly where they 70. Tuan Haji Abu Bakar bin Hamzah affect State Governments. The bertanya kapada Menteri Pemba­ Ministry did not have its full ngunan Negara dan Luar Bandar complement of senior staff until berapa jumlah bantuan serta-merta August this year and this toge­ yang di-beri kapada kawasan2 pilehan­ ther with an officer on study raya, yang berikut dalam masa pilehan­ leave slowed down action on the raya kechil yang di-adakan dalam drafting of the Rules and Regu­ kawasan2 tersebut masing2-nya dalam lations. tahun 1967: (b) The snags are being ironed out. (a) Pasir Mas Hulu, Kelantan; There is no question of the Government giving in to any (b) Tampoi, Johor; dan pressure whatsoever. (c) Kelantan Hilir, Kelantan. (c) Every effort will be made to Menteri Pembangunan Negara dan bring the Act into force at the Loar Bandar (Tun Haji Abdul Razak earliest possible time. bin Dato' Hussain): Saya telah berkali2 Messrs Mahendra and Hee menyatakan di-dalam Dewan ini ba­ hawa bantuan serta-merta itu di-beri 69. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the mengikut mustahak-nya satu2 ran­ Minister for Local Government and changan itu bagi satu2 kampong yang Housing to state if he is aware that berkenaan. Jika ada bantuan telah di­ the Town Planner, Kuala Lumpur, has beri kapada kawasan2 yang di-sebutkan received a letter dated 19th October, oleh Yang Berhormat itu, maka ban­ 1967, from Messrs Mahendra and Hee tuan itu ada-lah di-berikan dari masa 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2748 2747 "- ka-semasa semata2 bagi kepentingan tahun dan sa-lama ini menjalan­ dan keperluan bagi pendudok2 kawasan kan perniagaan mereka di-Negeri itu. Perlis. Memandangkan kapada tempoh mereka berada di­ Gerai Pekan Sari Malaysia, mereka ini juga pada 71. Tuan Haji Abu Bakar bin Hamzah hakikat-nya mempunyai kela­ bertanya kapada Menteri Pembangunan yakan bagi mendapat Kera­ Negara dan Luar Bandar: 'ayatan di-negeri ini; (a) Kenapa beberapa buah gerai (c) Mengikut rekod yang ada, keja­ Pekan Sari yang di-dirikan oleh dian tersebut tidak pernah MARA di-Negeri Perlis telah berlaku di-lain2 tempat. di-beri kapada orang2 bukan warganegara Malaysia; Guru/Penyelia Pelajaran Dewasa (b) Siapa-kah orang2 dagang ini; 72. Tuan Haji Abu Bakar bin Hamzah dan bertanya kapada Menteri Pembangunan (c) Pernah-kah ada kejadian mem­ Negara dan Luar Bandar : beri gerai2 Pekan Sari atau (a) berapa bilangan guru2 dan pe­ rumah2 kedai kapada orang2 nyelia kelas dewasa di-Kelantan bukan warganegara sa-umpama hingga masa ini, dan berapa itu; dan jika ada, sebutkan be­ ramai di-antara mereka yang rapa bilangan-nya, kapada siapa berkhidmat dalam kawasan gerai2 itu di-untokkan dan di­ Bachok; mana. (b) ada-kah benar bahawa Kerajaan T• Haji Abdul Razak: telah mengarahkan guru2 kelas dewasa dan guru2 kelas dewasa (a) Gerai2 Pekan Sari ada-lah di­ ugama supaya mengajar orang2 dirikan dengan tujuan memberi kampong memperchayai bahawa kemudahan pemiagaan yang 2 2 mendirikan berhala dan to'­ sempurna kapada peniaga yang kong2 mushrik itu "HARUS" scdang menjalankan perniagaan dan tidak menyalahi Hukum tetapi tidak mendapat tempat Shara', jika benar, sebutkan pemiagaan yang sempurna. 2 dalil2 shara' yang membenarkan Gerai Pekan Sari di-Padang perbuatan itu, dan jika tidak, Besar telah di-sewakan kapada ada-bh Kerajaan akan melarang 22 orang peniaga Melayu, 7 guru2 dan penyelia2 kelas dewasa orang peniaga China dan 3 orang daripada memberi ajaran2 yang peniaga India; salah saperti itu. (b) Di-antara penyewa2 tersebut, ada 3 orang penyewa yang Tun Haji Abdul Razak: belum mendapat Kera'ayatan (a) Hingga hari ini ada sa-ramai Malaysia-sa-orang bangsa Me­ 1,107 orang guru2 dewasa dan layu dan dua orang bangsa 50 orang Penyelia Kelas Dewasa India. Peniaga Melayu yang di-Kelantan. Di-antara-nya, sa­ belum mendapat Kera'ayatan ramai 105 orang Guru dan Malaysia ini ia-lah sa-orang 4 orang Penyelia berkhidmat perempuan. Pada hakikat-nya di-kawasan Bachok; beliau berkelayakan untok men­ (b) Tidak benar. Kerajaan tidak ada dapat Kera'ayatan sa-kadarkan memerentahkan guru2 kelas kelulusan rasmi belum di­ dewasa mengajar perkara2 yang perolehi. Beliau sa-orang perem­ terkeluar dari mata-pelajaran puan Melayu berasal dari Selatan yang telah di-tetapkan, ia-itu Siam dan berkahwin dengan Bahasa Kebangsaan., Ilmu Kira2, sa-orang Melayu warganegara Urusan Rumah Tangga dan Malaysia, sejak beberapa tahun Ugama Islam. Sukatan pelajaran yang lalu. Sementara 2 orang yang di-tetapkan untok pelajaran penyewa India pula telah tinggal ugama di-kelas2 dewasa ia-lah di-Malaysia sejak beberapa mengikut apa yang terkandong 2749 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2750 di-dalam buku panduan guru her financial resources carefully, yang bertajok "ISLAM". that she deserved some sort of financial assistance in this case "Physical Raging" di-Maktab MARA a study grant of US$ l.285 per 73. Tuan Haji Abu Dakar bin Ham7.8h annum; bertanya kapada Menteri Pembangun­ (b) The Scholarship Committee was an Negara dan Luar Bandar, ada-kah impressed with her educational dia sedar bahawa perbuatan "ragging" attainments; yang di-lakukan terhadap penuntut2 (c) The Committee was of the view baharu Maktab MARA dalam tahun that she would be able to make 1967 ini sudah bagitu keterlaluan sa­ the grade; and hingga ada di-antara mereka yang di­ paksa menchelupkan muka ka-dalam (d) of the high costs of maintaining tandas dan turun dari tangga batu oneself in the United States. dengan berjalan kaki empat-lutut dan siku; dan sama ada dia sedar bahawa, Wana Yana Tidak Berbelanja akibat dari perbuatan yang terlalu itu, 75. Tuan Edmund Langgu anak Saga satu perkelahian telah berlaku di-antara asks the Minister of National and penuntut2 baharu dengan penuntut2 Rural Development to state whether lama Maktab tersebut dalam tahun Sarawak can get the amount of un­ 1966, dan jika sedar, apa-kah lang­ spent money that has been allocated kah2 Kerajaan berchadang hendak to the State for the year of 1966 and ambil bagi menghapuskan "physical 1967 in 1968 as to enable the State to ragging" yang sa-umpama itu pada implement all the outstanding projects masa hadapan. there. Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Tidak ada Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Yes, pro­ kejadian yang saperti di-katakan oleh vided that the projects are included in Yang Berhormat itu berlaku. Dengan and approved for implementation under yang demikian, perkara hendak meng­ the First Malaysia Plan. hapuskan "physical ragging" itu tidak berbangkit sama-sekali. Sukachita saya menyatakan di-sini ia-itu saya mem­ KEMENTERIANPENGANGKUTAN punyai penob- keperchayaan bahawa Perjalanan Bas Babaru penuntut2 yang masok ka-Maktab MARA itu memang mempunyai pe­ 76. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the rasaan tanggong-jawab-nya sendiri Minister of Transport to state if he untok menjaga nama baik mereka dan has received a copy of the letter sent juga nama baik MARA. to the Prime Minister dated 6th Sep· tember, 1967, regarding the Proposed New Bus Route through Paya Teru­ Che' Zainab binti Tan Sri Abdul Rahman bong Road, Ayer Itam, and if so, what 74. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the action he has taken on this letter. Minister of National and Rural Development to state the reasons why The Minister of Transport (Tan Sri Che' Zainab binti Tan Sri Abdul Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir): I did Rahman was awarded a MARA receive a copy of the letter dated Scholarship to study sociology for 4 6-9-67 sent to the Prime Minister by years in the United States and whether Enche' Tan Khee Hon of 1001 Mukim he is not aware that Che' Zainab comes 13, Paya Terubong, Penang, regarding from a wealthy family whereas the proposed new bus route through MARA's avowed objective is to help Paya Terubong, Ayer Itam. the poor and deserving cases amongst The application from the Penang the Bumiputra's of this country. Yellow Bus Co. Ltd was heard by the Road Transport Licensing Board held Tun Haji Abdul Razak: The award at the office of the Pendaftar dan was made because: Pemereksa Kanan Kereta2 Motw, (a) The Scholarship Committee of Penang, on 8-9-67 and the application MARA felt, after scrutinising was granted. 2751 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2752 Enche' Tan Khee Hon was informed measures the results of which can only of the position by the Commissioner be assessed after the worst conditions for Road Transport vide his letter have occurred. The roof is under a ten RSL/ AP. 492 dated 11-10-67. The year guarantee period and no expendi­ letter was returned by the Postal Autho­ ture has so far been incurred on repair­ rities undelivered with the remark ing the leaks, but a total of $795 has "Tidak ada nama". been spent on the replacement of some of the plastic skylight sheeting some of Lapangan Terbang Subang which were blown off and others 77. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the damaged by exceptionally strong winds Minister of Transport to state if he is during a heavy storm. aware that the Subang Airport has no G.C.A. i.e. ground control approach, Nombor Pendaftaran and if so, when this navigational aid 79. Tuan Lee Seek Fun asks the Minis­ will be introduced to make the airport ter of Transport whether he will take safer for planes taking off and landing steps to give different registration there. numbers for motor-car of doctors in Tan Sri Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: Malaysia as is done in the United As the term G.C.A. (Ground Control States of America. Approach) indicates, the facility is used only for aircraft approaching for Tan Sri Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: landing. No attempt is made to use it Setahu saya, tidak ada nombor2 pen­ for taking off aircraft as stated in _the daftaran sedemikian yang di-beri untok enquiry by the Honourable Member. motokar doktor2 di-Amerika Sharikat, Kuala Lumpur International Airport tetapi motokar2 ini ada menggunakan Instrument Landing System has re­ tanda2 khas (emblems) bagi kemudahan cently been flight tested to fine doktor2 melayani panggilan2 chemas standards and this enables it to be dari orang ramai yang memperlukan used to a standard comparable with rawatan segera. Sekira-nya ada per­ G.C.A. Surveillance Radar is included mintaan untok di-adakan peratoran in the First Five-Year Malaysia Plan sedemikian dari Kementerian Kesihatan and in setting up fhis aid, advisory atau Malaysian Medical Association, talk down has been considered. With satu jawatan-kuasa boleh di-tubohkan the number of aids that will be avail­ bagi mengkaji perkara ini. able G.C.A. is not considered neces­ sary at this state. As far as I am aware, there are no such registration numbers being assig­ 78. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the ned to motor-cars of doctors in the Minister of Transport to state if he is United States of America, but special aware that the roof of the terminal emblems are displayed on motor-cars building at the Subang Airport leaks, of doctors for the convenience of and if so, what are the causes of the answering urgent call~ from public leak and why a new building should seeking immediate medical attention. leak, and how much has been spent on Should there be a request for such an repairing the leaks so far. arrangement from the Ministry of Health or the Malaysian Medical Tan Sri Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: Association, a committee can be set I am indeed aware of the leaks in the up to look into this matter. roof of the Terminal Building at Kuala Lumpur International Airport. The leaks occur generally when excep­ Tali-pinggang Keledar tionally heavy rain accompanied by 80. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the strong winds occur resulting in the rain Minister of Transport to make a pro­ being driven in under the plastic gress report of his campaign announced skylights. early this year to get all Cabinet The leaks have no structural signi­ Ministers to wear safety belts while ficance and the J.K.R. in consultation driving to set an example to other with the Architects are taking remedial motorists. 2753 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2754 Tan Sri Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: Malaysia-Singapore Airways Saya telah merayu kapada semua 81. Tengku Zaid bin Tengku Ahmad Kementerian2, Jabatan2 Kerajaan serta bertanya kapada Menteri Pengang­ orang ramai supaya melengkapkan kutan: kenderaan2 motor mereka dengan tali­ pinggang keledar dan memakai-nya. (a) boleh-kah beliau mengambil Saya juga telah merayu kapada shari­ tindakan untok memasokkan sa­ kat2 kenderaan supaya menggalakkan kurang2-nya satu atau dua orang orang ramai melengkapkan kenderaan2 Melayu Malaysia dalam Juma'ah motor mereka dengan tali-pinggang Pemileh M.S.A. supaya orang keledar apabila mereka membeli ken­ Melayu tidak di-ketepikan lang­ deraan dari sharikat2 itu. song dalam pemilehan itu; (b) boleh-kah beliau berikan senarai Setahu saya motokar2 yang telah di­ nama dan Sijil2 kewarganegaraan lengkapkan dengan tali-pinggang kele­ ahli2 Juma'ah di-Singapura. dar, telah bertambah bilangan-nya, dan sharikat2 kenderaan telah melaporkan Tan Sri Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: ia-itu penjualan tali-pinggang keledar (a) tidak ada ahli2 tetap di-dalam mereka telah juga bertambah. Lembaga Pemileh M.S.A. me­ Pusat Piaiwaian Malaysia (Standards lainkan Pengarah Kakitangan. Institution of Malaysia) sedang me­ Ahli2 Lembaga tersebut terdiri rangkakan taraf kebangsaan (national daripada pegawai2 di-suatu ba­ standards) bagi tali-pinggang keledar hagian yang sama kapada yang dan apabila kerja2 ini selesai dan apa­ hendak di-ambil. Dengan ini bila alat2 untok menguji tali2-pinggang maka ada-lah tidak dapat di­ itu telah di-sediakan, tindakan boleh terima chadangan Ahli Yang di-ambil untok mengadakan undang2 Berhormat itu, tetapi saya dapat supaya kenderaan2 motor yang ter­ menjamin Ahli Yang Berhormat tentu dan yang baru di-daftarkan bahawa setiap kesempatan akan mesti di-lengkapkan dengan tali­ di-ambil supaya warganegara pinggang keledar. Dengan demikian Malaysia (walau Melayu atau pada akhir-nya semua kenderaan2 bukan Melayu) mendapat kesem­ motor yang sederhana akan di-lengkap­ patan yang sama untok bekerja kan dengan tali-pinggang keledar. dengan M.S.A. dari sa-siapa pun; I have been appealing to all Minis­ tries, Government Departments and (b) sa-bahagian dari soalan ini telah members of the public to fit safety belts di-jawab dalam (a), tetapi saya in their motor vehicles and to use them. ingin menambah bahawa kela­ Appeals had also been made to motor ziman-nya Lembaga Pemileh firms to encourage members of the terdiri saperti berikut : public to fit safety belts in their motor (1) Pengarah Kakitangan atau wakil­ vehicles when purchasing their vehicles. nya. As far as I am aware more and more (2) Ketua Jabatan atau wakil-nya. motor cars had been fitted with safety (3) Sa-orang wakil dari Kesatuan belts and motor firms have reported yang tertentu sebagai pemerhati. increase in sales of safety belts. Temuduga di-adakan di-merata tem­ When the Standard Institution of pat2 di-Malaysia dan Singapura di­ Malaysia has finalised its national mana kekosongan itu berlaku. standards for safety belts and could (a) there is no permanent members carry out the testing of this safety in the interviewing Board of device, legislation could be introduced M.S.A. except the Director of to make safety belts a compulsory Personnel. The members of the fitting in certain types of newly regis­ Board vary from one category tered motor vehicles. By this we would of staff to be recruited to another. ultimately have all medium sized motor It is therefore not possible to vehicles fitted with safety belts. do as the Honourable Member 2755 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2756 suggests but I can assure him Di-perengkat Pengurusan Pertad­ that every precaution is being biran, 2 Warga Negara Malaysia baru2 taken to ensure that Malaysians ini telah di-lantek sebagai Pengarah (whether Malays or non-Malays) Kewangan dan Pengurus Steshen Lalu­ get equal opportunity to be lintas dan dari 9 Pegawai2 Kerja yang appointed into M.S.A. as anyone tertinggi di-Sharikat ini, 3 telah di­ else; penohi oleh Warga Negara Malaysia, 2 Warga Negara Singapura dan 3 (b) part of this question has already Pegawai2 Dagang. been answered in (a) but I would like to add that in normal Di-steshen dan di-perengkat Pengu- · practice the following constitute rusan Kawasan. 9 jawatan2 yang ada an interview board : di-Malaysia Timor di-mana hanya 1 jawatan sahaja di-penohi oleh Warga (1) Director of Personnel or his Negara Singapura. 10 jawatan2 yang representative. ada di-Malaysia Barat. di-mana 7 telah (2) Head of Department or his di-penohi oleh Warga Negara Malay­ representative. sia yang mana 3 di-pegang oleh (3) A representative of the particular bangsa Melayu termasok jawatan Union as an observer. Pengurus Kawasan dan Jurukira Ka­ wasan, Malaysia Barat. 5 Pengurus Interviews are held at various places Steshen telah di-lantek di-luar negeri in Malaysia and Singapore where the di-mana 1 ada-lah pegawai dagang dan vacancies arise. yang 4 lagi Warga Negara Singapura. 82. Tengku Zaid bin Tengku Ahmad Since February 1st, 1967, M.S.A. has bertanya kapada Menteri Pengang­ employed a total of 601 staff i~ Malay­ kutan dapat-kah beliau memberi sia, Singapore and Brunei. Of the total kenyataan Perangkaan yan2 lengkap of 601, 215 are Malaysian citizens and menunjokkan bilangan Pengurus2, Pe­ of these, 120 are persons of Malay gawai2 dan Pelateh2 yang telah di­ race. During this period, no Singapore ambil dalam tempoh dua atau tiga citizens were employed in Malaysia tahun yang lepas di-atas asas kewarga­ and 75 Malaysian citizens were negaraan dan juga bilangan orang2 employed in Singapore. Since the 1st Melayu bagi satu2 bahagian dan benar­ January, 1965, M.S.A. has appointed kah banyak ra'ayat Singapura ter­ 207 trainees of whom 88 are Malaysian utama sa-kali yang berasal dari citizens and of whom 31 are Malays. keturunan China telah di-naikkan At executive management level, 2 Pangkat dan di-tukar menjawat jawa­ Malaysian citizens have been recently tan2 tinggi di-dalam Pejabat M.S.A. appointed being the Director of Finance di-Malaysia Barat dan di-Seberang and the Manager Lines Station so that Laut. of the 9 top executive positions in the Company, 3 are filled by Malaysian Tan Sri Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: citizens, 3 are filled by Singapore Semenjak lhb Februari, 1967, M.S.A. citizens and 3 are filled by expatriates. telah mengambil 601 orang pekerja di-Malaysia, Singapura dan Brunei. At station and area management Dari jumlah 601 orang, 215 ada-lah level, there are 9 appointments in warganegara Malaysia dan dari ini East Malaysia of which only 1 position 120 ada-lah bangsa Melayu. Dalam is filled by a Singapore citizen. There tempoh itu, tidak ada Warga Negara are 10 appointments in West Malaysia Singapura yang di-ambil bekerja di­ of which 7 are filled by Malaysian Malaysia dan 75 orang Warga Negara citizens and 3 are occupied by Malays Malaysia telah di-ambil bekerja di­ including the position of Area Mana­ Singapura. Semenjak lhb Januari, 1965 ger and Area Accountant, West Mala­ M.S.A. telah melantek 207 pelateh2 sia. Overseas there are 5 Station di-mana 88 ada-lah warganegara Managers appointed of whom 1 is Malaysia dan 31 dari-nya ada-lah an expatriate and 4 are Singapore bangsa Melayu. citizens. 2757 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2758 83. Tengku Zaid bin Tengku Ahmad Jabatan Kebajikan Masharakat di­ bertanya kapada Menteri Pengang­ Daerah Krian pada hari ini, ada-kah kutan: pehak Kementerian ini akan mendiri­ 2 (a) ada-kah beliau sedar atau kan sa-buah Rumah Untok Orang tidak bahawa kebanyakan-nya Tua, bagi Daerah tersebut, jika sa­ mereka itu tidak berkelayakan suatu permohonan di-buat. menjawat jawatan2 mereka Menteri Kebajikan 'Am (Tuan Haji sekarang, perkara pileh kaseh Abdul Hamid Khan bin Haji Sakha­ dan masaalah perkauman men­ wat Ali Khan): Satu badan sukarela jadi peranan terpenting bagi dengan kerjasama Jabatan Kebajikan menolong mereka2 naik ka-atas; Masharakat Perak telah menimbang­ (b) ada-kah betul bahawa M.S.A. kan untok mendirikan sa-buah Rumah itu di-penohi sesak · dengan Orang2 Tua di-Krian, oleh itu soal jawatan2 yang berlebehan dan Kementerian ini untok mengadakan tidak mustahak. sa-buah Rumah Orang2 Tua di-situ tidak timbul. Tan Sri Haji Sardon bin Haji Jubir: (a) Saya tidak menyedari akan per­ kara ini dan sukachita saya jika KEMENTERIAN TANAH DAN Ahli Yang Berhorniat dapat GALIAN memboktikan perkara pileh Pemberimilekan Tanah Lombong kaseh dan masaalah perkauman 85. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the ini agar saya dapat mengambil Minister of Lands and Mines to state tindakan sewajar-nya; Government's policy on alienation of (b) perkara ini sedang di-halusi mining land and give details of acreages oleh Ahli2 Lembaga Pengarah alienated during 1966 and the first nine Sharikat ini dan saya yakin jika months of 1967 giving the name of the di-dapati bahawa jawatan2 di­ Company or interest to whom land has M.S.A. ini penoh sesak, saya been alienated in each case. perchaya tindakan akan di-ambil oleh Lembaga untok memper­ Menteri Tanah dan Galian (Tuan baikki-nya. Haji Abdul-Rahman bin Ya'kub): Pengeluaran tanah untok perlombongan (a) I am not aware of this and I ada-lah di-bawah kuasa Kerajaan should be very grateful if the Negeri. Oleh yang demikian dasar2 Honourable Member has any pengeluaran tanah perlombongan ada­ proof of intrigues, nepotism and lah berlainan daripada satu negeri ka­ racialism in order that I might satu negeri yang lain. Rengkas-nya take action accordingly; dasar2 ini ada-lah saperti berikut: (b) This matter is being reviewed (1) Luas tanah yang boleh di-keluar­ by members of the Board of kan di-dalam tiap2 satu Surat Directors of the airline and I Kebenaran Charigali- am certain that if there was any Johor tidak lebeh daripada 750 foundation in the belief that the ekar, Pahang 1,000 ekar, Treng­ Management of M.S.A. is top ganu dan Kelantan 2,000 ekar. heavy, I am sure action would Lain2 Negeri tidak menghadkan be taken by the Board to rectify keluasan tanah. this. (2) Luas tanah yan~ di-keluarkan ka­ pada pemohon1 Pajak Galian ada­ KEMENTERIAN KEBAJIKAN 'AM lah bergantong kapada perkara1 Rumah Orang2 Tua berikut- 84. Tuan Sulaiman bin Haji Taib ber­ (a) Berapa banyak tanah Pajak tanya kapada Menteri Kebajikan 'Am Galian yang maseh di-pegang memandang kapada ramai-nya bilangan oleh pemohon. Orang2 Tua yang miskin, yang sedang (b) Berapa luas tanah Pajak menerima bantuan bulanan, daripada Galian yang telah di-kerjakan. 2759 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2760 (c) Berapa luas simpanan tanah construct a wider Railway-Line over­ Pajak Galian yang maseh di­ head bridge to replace the existing pegang-nya. narrow one in front of the Hindu (d) Ada-kah pemohon itu sa­ Temple which is approximately one orang Pelombong atau Shari­ mile before arriving at Tanjong Malim kat Lombong yang giat. from Kuala Lumpur to avoid the numerous motor-vehicle accidents which (e) Chadangan pemohon ber­ usually occur in this locality. kenaan dengan melombong tanah yang di-pohon. Misal­ Tun V. T. Sambantban: This item is nya jika pemohon itu sa­ included in the First Malaysia Plan, orang Pelombong yang sudah but due to restrictions of funds, it has di-beri 2,000 ekar tanah tetapi had to be deferred. However, this telah mengerjakan chuma 500 matter is now subject to the transporta­ ekar sahaja, dan memohon tion study currently being undertaken. lagi 1,000 ekar tanah Pajak Galian maka selalu-nya Kera­ Perkhidmatan Talikom jaan Negeri meluluskan per­ 88. Tuan Toh Theam Hock asks the mohonan-nya itu. Minister of Works, Posts and Telecom­ (3) Bayaran2 dan chukai2 tanah galian munications if he is aware of the very ada-lah berlainan daripada satu poor telecommunication service between negeri ka-satu negeri. Kampar and lpob, and if so, what (4) Sharat2 yang di-kenakan di-atas steps he intends to take to improve the tanah Pajak Galian ada-lah ber­ service. lainan juga sedikit daripada satu Tun V. T. Sambanthan: I am aware negeri ka-satu negeri. Sharat2 tetap 2 of reports of congestions on the Ipoh­ yang terkandong dalam Undang Kampar route some time early this year. Galian Negeri, boleh di-katakan This was due to shortage of circuits. sama daripada satu negeri ka-satu Since May this year 6 additional circuits negeri. have been provided thereby increasing Oleh kerana perkara ini ada-lah per­ the total to 26. The situation has con­ kara Kerajaan Negeri, Kementerian sequently improved. Moreover, a Hal Ehwal Tanah dan Galian tiada micro-wave radio scheme has been menyimpan rekod angka2 keluasan planned and the equipment is expected tanah perlombongan yang di-beri milek to arrive in 1968. Additional circuits dan nama2 sharikat bagi tahun 1966 will then be installed to take care of dan 1967 saperti yang di-kehendaki. increases in the number of calls.

KEMENTERIAN KERJA RAYA, JABATAN PERDANA MENTERI POS DAN TALIKOM Melawat Sambil Belajar Jambatan2 89. Tuan Haji Abu Dakar bin Hamzah 86. Tuan Toh Theam Hock asks the bertanya kapada Perdana Menteri: Minister of Works, Posts and Telecom­ (a) berapa ramai pendudok2 dalam munications to state if he intends to kawasan Pilehanraya Kelantan replace the two wooden bridges along Hilir yang telah di-bawa mela­ Kuala Dipang Road, Kampar with per­ wat sambil belajar ka-Pantai manent bridges, and if so, when. Barat dalam masa kempen Pile­ The Minister of Works, Posts and hanraya dalam kawasan tersebut Telecommunications (Tun V. T. Sam­ dalam bulan Oktober, 1967, dan banthan): The two wooden bridges in berapa banyak peruntokan wang question are not yet due for replace­ yang di-sediakan bagi maksud ment. This will be reviewed in 1969. itu: . (b) berapa bilangan pendudok2 87, Tuan Lee Seek Fun asks the Minis­ dalam kawasan Pilehanraya ter of Works, Posts and Telecommuni­ Pasir Mas Hulu yang telah di­ cations whether he is taking steps to bawa melawat sambil belajar 2761 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2762 dalam masa kempen Pilehan­ yang baik ini akan di-bawa raya kawasan itu dalam bulan kapada suatu Jawatan-kuasa Ogos, 1967. untok di-kaji dan kemudian di­ bentangkan dalam Dewan Ra'ayat Perdana Menteri: untok pengetahuan umum. (a) Dalam bulan Oktober, 1967 sa­ ramai 40 orang dari J ajahan Perdana Menteri: Konsep "Islam Kota Bharu dan Tumpat telah Liberal" saperti yang pemah di-katakan oleh Yang Berhormat Enche' Senu itu di-bawa dalam satu rombongan bukan bermaksud amalan Islam yang lawatan "Civic Course" ka-Ibu 2 Kota. Rombongan ini di-biayai longgar atau pun terlepas dari rukun - oleh Jabatan Penerangan dengan nya. perbelanjaan berjumlah $5,000 Apa yang di-maksudkan oleh beliau di-bawah peruntokan civic ia-lah sikap kita yang toleran terhadap tahunan J abatan tersebut. ugama2 lain yang di-anuti oleh warga­ Note: Sa-bahagian daripada negara Malaysia yang bukan Islam. Jajahan Tumpat dan Kota Mereka bebas mengamalkan keper­ Bharu kebetulan ada-lah chayaan mereka yang berbeza2 sama dalam kawasan Pilehanraya ada mereka itu Keristian atau Hindu Kelantan Hilir. atau Buddha maupun apa jua yang di­ katakan ugama. (b) Dalam bulan Ogos, 1967 satu rombongan yang mengandongi Rumah2 lbadat 40 orang peserta dari Negeri Kelantan, termasok beberapa 91. Tuan Haji Abo Bakar bin Hamzah peserta dari kawasan Jajahan bertanya kapada Perdana Menteri ada­ Pasir Mas. telah membuat lawa­ kah Kerajaan Perikatan yakin bahawa tan sambil belajar ka-Kuala mendirikan rumah2 ibadat saperti ber­ Lumpur. Rombongan ini ia-lah hala dan lain2, selain daripada mendiri­ satu daripada lima rombongan kan masjid2 dan gereja. saperti yang lawatan sambil belajar dari di-lakukan oleh Kerajaan sekarang ini negeri2 Perlis, Trengganu. Sabah. lulus di-sisi hukum Shara'; jika ya, Sarawak dan Kelantan yang terangkan dalil Shari'e yang meluluskan telah di-bawa melawat ka-Kuala perbuatan demikian, dan jika tidak, Lumpur untok menyaksikan terangkan sama ada Kerajaan akan Perayaan 10 Tahun Merdeka. merentikan perbuatan saperti itu.

"Islam Liberal" Perdana Menteri: Kerajaan Per­ ikatan merasa yakin memberi bantuan 90. Tuan Haji Abu Bakar bin Hamzah kapada semua rumah ibadat yang me­ minta kapada Perdana Menteri: mohon bantuan untok memperbaiki (a) terangkan dengan rengkas dasar atau menyempumakan tempat itu "Islam Liberal" Kerajaan Perika­ tidak bersalahan dengan hukum Shara', tan sa-bagaimana yang di-ulang2- yakni, Kerajaan di-beri keluasan me­ kan oleh Y.B. Menteri Penerangan lakukan muslihat dan Ke'adilan kapada dan Penyiaran, Enche' Senu bin semua ra'ayat-nya. Abdul Rahman. yang mengikut Dalam Kitab "Samahat Al-Islam,'' kata-nya sedang di-jalankan seka­ karangan Doktor Ahmad Mohammad rang; Al-Haufi yang di-terbitkan oleh (b) ada-kah dasar "Islam Liberal" Jawatan-kuasa "Lajnatut Al-Ta'arif bil itu bermazhab Shafie atau ber­ Islam" Majlis tertinggi Hal Ehwal mazhab "Ahlil Sunnah" saperti Islam Republik Arab Bersatu dalam yang berjalan di-Perlis sekarang muka (65) ada menerangkan sa-orang ini. yang memakai terns Quran panglima, Al-Khalifah Al-Mu'tasim dan Hadith dengan tidak terikat (218-223) (833-842) (M) telah menjatoh­ kapada mana2 Mazhab (atau kan hukum sebat kapada sa-orang School of Thought); jika ya. Imam dan Bilal kerana mereka meno­ terangkan sama ada perdirian long meruntohkan berhala Majusi. 2763 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2764 Rumah2 Berhala dalam kurun yang kerana Kerajaan yakin yang Ugama itu ka-sepuloh, sa-telah tiga kurun peme­ ada-lah satu2 senjata utama yang boleh rintahan Islam di-dapati banyak ber­ menentang dan mengalahkan fahaman selerak di-Iraq, di-Persia, di-Karman Komunis dan Parti Komunis hendak Sajastan, Khurasan dan Azzabijan dan membasmikan keperchayaan manusia di-mana2 sahaja bandar2 kechil di­ kapada Allah dan yang sudah berpuloh negeri Persia ada sahaja rumah2 berhala. tahun chuba dan sedang menchuba hendak memerintah Negara Malaysia Dalam muka (74) pula ada menyata­ ini. kan : dalam Empire Islam banyak gereja2 di-bangunkan dan di-bina Orang2 Islam di-dalam Perikatan dengan persetujuan Kerajaan dan ada sentiasa sedar bahawa usaha menyam­ kala-nya dengan bantuan Kerajaan. paikan seruan Islam kapada semua gulongan itu ada-lah suatu kewajipan Oleh yang demikian Kerajaan Per­ tetapi tidak-lah pula kerana kewajipan ikatan yang mempunyai dan meme­ itu kita menchuaikan kewajipan Kera­ rentah ra'ayat yang berbilang Ugama, jaan berlaku adil kapada semua gu­ dan mereka ta'at setia kapada Kerajaan longan. pula, menunaikan tanggongan2 yang di-kenakan di-atas-nya-ia-itu ada-lah "Allah-Mohamed" !;angat patut Kerajaan bersikap 'adil 92. Tuan Haji Abu Bakar bin Hamzah dan menjalankan muslihat memberi bertanya kapada Perdana Menteri me­ bantuan kapada mereka yang memo­ mandang kapada apa yang di-tegas­ honkan bantuan untok memperbaiki kan-nya dalam jawapan bertulis pada dan menyempurnakan bangunan2 atau bulan Ogos, 1966 bahawa "Ugama tempat2 ibadat masing2. Kerajaan bukan tidak boleh di-pisahkan dari Politik", mendirikan rumah2 ibadat ini tetapi ia terangkan mengapa Kerajaan melarang sekadar membantu-nya sahaja. Parti Islam sa-Tanah Melayu meng­ gunakan simbol bendera "Allah­ Wang yang di-gunakan untok mem­ Mohamed" pada hal "Allah-Moha­ beri bantuan kapada Masjid2, Gereja2 2 med" itu ada-Iah chogan perjuangan dan Berhala itu ia-lab wang Kerajaan Islam yang menjadi Ugama Rasmi yang di-pungut daripada seluroh pen­ negara Malaysia kita. dudok Negeri ini yang menganut ber­ bagai-bagai ugama. Dengan kerana: itu Perdana Menteri: Penggunaan per­ ada-lah adil bagi Kerajaan menim­ kataan "Allah" dan "Mohamed" di­ bangkan juga permintaan2 daripada bendera parti P.A.S. mungkin akan orang2 yang berugama lain daripada mengelirukan ra'ayat yang tidak bagitu Islam. terpelajar dan menganggap parti P.A.S. itu se-bagai. parti Allah. Pendudok2 yang berbilang keturunan ini menganut berbagai2 Ugama. Kema­ Kerajaan perchaya juga bahawa amuran dan keselamatan negeri ini mungkin chogan ini di-salah gunakan di-pikul bersama oleh semua ra'ayat untok kepentingan politik. dari berbagai2 penganut Ugama itu. Dan sebagai sebuah Kerajaan yang Peranchangan Keluarga berdasarkan Demokrasi dan sentiasa 93. Tuan Haji Abu Bakar bin Hamzah . bertindak adil sudah selayak-nya-lah bertanya kapada Perdana Menteri oleh pula semua gulongan mendapat perha­ kerana Peranchangan Keluarga ia-lah tian yang sama dari Kerajaan. Allah satu perkara kebangsaan yang ada tidak melarang daripada berbuat baik kaitan-nya dengan hukum Shara' dan berlaku adil kapada orang2 yang Islam, ada-kah Kerajaan akan menu­ bukan Islam yang tidak memerangi bohkan sa-buah Jawatan-kuasa yang kita dan Ugama Islam, sa-nya Allah ahli2-nya terdiri, antara lain2, daripada kasehi orang2 yang berlaku adil. Ahli2 Ugama Islam dalam negeri ini; Ada-lah menjadi dasar Kerajaan yang jika ya, bila, dan jika tidak, mengapa. ada pada hari ini untok mempertahan­ Perdana Menteri: Ada-lah di-fikirkan kan kebebasan berugama dan mem­ tidak perlu menubohkan Jawatan­ bantu dan meluaskan kebebasan itu kuasa untok maksud tersebut oleh 2765 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2766 kerana peranchang keluarga ada-lah Council and they are still examining di-jalankan di-dalam negara2 Islam this report. The Cabinet · will only be lain saperti Pakistan, Republik Arab able to make its decision after it ha8 Bersatu, Turkey dan lain2. received the report from the Com, mittee. Simpanan Getah Pentadbiran Perkhidmatan Buro Bantuan Guaman Awam 96. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the 94. Dr Tan Chee Kh.oon asks the Prime Minister whether the Govern­ Prime Minister to state whether he is aware of the suggestion from the ment would establish a legal aid bureau United States that we buy over the to give free assistance to the poor and G.S.A. Stockpile of rubber and whether needy· in legal proceedings and repre· he does not consider this is rubbing sentations. salt into our wounds at a time when The Prime Minister: As the Honour• the price of rubber is falling to a able Member is aware, Cabinet had dangerous level. already appointed a Committee to The Prime Minister: I am not aware enquire into the need for the establish· ment of a free legal aid service to give that thei United States Government ha~ made the suggestion that we buy over free assistance to the poor and needy the G.S.A. rubber stockpile. I am not in legal proceedings and representa­ sure, however, that I can accept the tions. However, in view of the financial Honourable Member's contention that implications involved and having regard such a suggestion is tantamount to to the current financial situation of rubbing salt into a wound at a the country, it has been found necessary time when the price of rubber is for the Committee to re-examine its falling to uneconomic levels. One recommendations. It is hoped that after would think that much would depend study of the revised report. it would on the terms of such a transaction. If be possible to introduce a legal aid the rubber is sold to us very cheaply, service some time next year. or let us say, given to us free, then we would be in a position not to release Penchen any rubber at all from the stockpile if '7. Dato' Dr Baji Megat Kh.as her· prices are too low, or to regulate the tanya kapada Perdana Menteri hitong rate of release according to the panjang berapa-kah penchen yang di· prevailing price level. Under such terima oleh tiap2 orang penchen. circumstances, ownership and control Perdana Menteri: Oleh kerana gaji of the stockpile would clearly bring 2 distinct advantages to us. yang di-dapati oleh pegawai dalam perkhidmatan awam berlain-lainan ba­ Penyata Surohanjaya Gaji2 Su8ian nyak-nya, dan oleh kerana lain2 hal lagi, tiada-lah dapat hendak di-sebut­ 95. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the kan angka yang tepat bagi menunjok· Prime Minister why the Suffian Salaries kan penchen hitoog panjang yang Commission Report has not yet been di-terima "oleh tiap2 sa-orang pegawai made public, and ·to state when the yang telah bersara daripada perkhid­ Cabinet can take a decision on the matan awam. Walau bagaimana pun. recommendations of the Report. oleh kerana pegawai2 dalam perkhid· The Prime Minister: As was already matan awam pada 'am-nya bersara stated at the last meeting of the sa-telah berkhidmat hingga chukup Dewan Ra'ayat, the Report of the masa-nya, banyak penchen yang di­ Suffian Salaries Commission will be dapati mereka lebeh kurang t dari­ released to . the public as soon as pada gaji yang di-terima mereka pada agreement has been reached between masa mereka bersara. the Official and Staff Side. Limited copies of the report have been released Melanjutkan Perkhiclmatan Kakitangan to the Committee of Officials. of the Kerajaan Government and the Staff Side of the 98. Dato' Dr Haji Megat Khas ber· Whitley Councils ancL the Police tanya kapada Perdana Menteri ada-kah 2767 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2768 Kerajaan berpuas hati ia-itu melanjut­ telah melambong tinggi. pada hal kan perkhidmatan kakitangan Kerajaan penchen mereka tinggal di-tingkat yang daripada 55 tahun kapada 60 tahun sangat rendah. dengan sa-benar-nya menguntongkan Perdana Menteri: Rayuan2 telah di­ Kerajaan atau sa-balek-nya. buat oleh sa-kurang2-nya dua Persatuan Perdana Menteri: Sebab yang utama Pegawai Yang Bersara dalam negeri kenapa pegawai2 Kerajaan di-benarkan ini bagi mendapat tambahan penchen meneruskan perkhidmatan-nya sa-lepas dan elaun untok pegawai2 yang ber­ berumor 55 tahun itu ia-lah supaya penchen. Rayuan2 itu telah di-timbang­ Kerajaan dapat menggunakan penga­ kan dengan halus. Sa-telah menim­ laman pegawai2 yang berkenaan itu bangkan antara lain2 perkara, per­ terutama dalam chawangan2 perkhid­ ubahan2 yang telah di-buat kapada matan Kerajaan yang kekurangan gaji pegawai2 yang berkhidmat. Kera­ pegawai2 yang mempunyai kelayakan2 jaan pada masa yang lalu telah dan pengalaman yang mustahak bagi menchari jalan untok menambah pen­ menjalankan kewajipan2 itu dengan chen2 yang di-bayar kapada pegawai2 sempurna dan chekap oleh sebab per­ Kerajaan yang Bersara dengan mem­ saraan pegawai2 dagang. mengikut bayar elaun mengikut kadar penchen kehendak dasar Perwarganegaraan. yang di-bayar kapada mereka. Elaun2 Kerajaan maseh berkuasa menyuroh sa­ ini berdasarkan berapa banyak penchen saorang pegawai itu bersara apabila yang mereka dapati dan di-kira mulai sampai umor-nya 55 tahun atau dahulu daripada tarikh berjalan-nya kuat­ daripada itu bagi sa-tengah2 peringkat kuasa mereka bersara daripada per­ pegawai2 yang tertentu mengikut khidmatan Kerajaan. Kerajaan berpen­ Undang2 Penchen. 1951. Oleh sebab2 dapat itu-lah sahaja yang dapat yang di-sebutkan di-atas tadi, perkara di-buat-nya untok mengurangkan kesu­ mengekalkan perkhidmatan pegawai2 litan pegawai2 Kerajaan yang berpen­ Kerajaan sa-lepas mereka berumor 55 chen yang di-tanggong oleh mereka. tahun ada-lah, pada keselurohan-nya, jika ada, dengan tidak mengubah mendatangkan faedah kapada Kera­ bentok susunan penchen dan elaun jaan. penchen yang di-bayar kapada mereka serta tidak menambah lagi beban ke­ Orang2 yang Bersara daripada Perkhidmatan wangan Kerajaan yang sudah berat Kerajaan kerana membayar penchen serta lain2 99. Dato' Dr Haji Megat Khas ber­ faedah. tanya kapada Perdana Menteri berapa­ kah bilangan orang2 mengikut bangsa Ahli Parlimen yang telah bersara daripada perkhid­ 101. Tuan Edmund Langgu anak Saga matan Kerajaan yang menerima pen­ asks the Prime Minister to state chen daripada Kerajaan sa-takat ini. whether a Member of Parliament is allowed to be a member of two Perdana Menteri: Dalam masa yang political parties. sangat terhad ini tidak-lah dapat hendak memberi keterangan yang tepat Perdana Menteri: Sa-saorang ahli mengenai berapa banyak pegawai2 Parlimen yang mewakili sa-sabuah Kerajaan yang telah bersara, yang Parti Politik ada-lah orang yang di­ sedang menerima penchen sekarang ini pileh oleh parti-nya. Ahli Parlimen mengikut bangsa. Rekod2 yang di­ yang mewakili Parti Perikatan di­ simpan mengenai pegawai2 Kerajaan Malaysia Barat ada-lah menjadi ahli yang bersara tiada membahagi2kan Parti Perikatan itu sama ada ia-nya mereka mengikut bangsa. menjadi ahli UMNO. M.C.A. atau M.l.C.; ahli Parlimen dari Sarawak 100. Dato' Dr Haji Megat Khas ber­ yang mewakili Perikatan ada-lah tanya kapada Perdana Menteri ada-kah menjadi ahli sama ada dalam Parti Kerajaan sedar bahawa orang2 yang Pesaka, Parti Bumiputra atau pun bersara pada keselµrohan-nya. mende­ S.C.A.; dan ahli Parlimen dari Sabah rita dalam kehidupan-nya, oleh kerana yang mewakili Perikatan ada-lah harga barang2 keperluan semua-nya menjadi ahli sama ada dalam Parti 2769 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2770 I'· USNO atau pun S.C.A. Sa-kira-nya who is a member of the SNAP, led by ahli Parlimen Perikatan itu datang ka­ Dato' Stephen Kalong Ningkan cannot Malaysia Barat dan masok champur be accepted as a member of the UMNO dalam Parti Perikatan di-sini, maka because the SNAP had disassociated ia-nya tidak-lah terkeluar dari maksud itself from the Alliance Party. The itu kerana Parti Perikatan di-Malaysia Member must choose whether to be a Barat dan Parti Perikatan Malaysia member of Parliament representing Timor itu ada-lah satu Parti sahaja. either the SNAP or the Alliance. Sa-balik-nya kalau sa-saorang ahli Parlimen itu masok dua parti politik By law, there is no objection to a yang berlainan ideology-nya, maka Member of Parliament becoming a kena-lah dia memileh antara satu dari member of any number of political dua parti politik itu. Mithal-nya sa­ parties. It all depends on the basic saorang ahli Parlimen Sarawak yang Constitution of the party itself whether menjadi ahli Parti SNAP' yang di­ or not to accept one from another party ketuai oleh Dato' Kalong Ningkan to be its member. tidak-lah boleh masok menjadi ahli UMNO kerana SNAP sudah keluar Menteri Hal Ehwal Sarawak dari Parti Perikatan. Ahli itu mesti-lah 102. Tuan Edmund Langgu anak Saga pileh antara satu sama ada hendak asks the Prime Minister to state what jadi ahli Parlimen mewakili SNAP atau action has been taken by the Central pun Perikatan. Government in respect of the charge made by the Honourable the Federal Dalam undang2 tidak ada ketegahan Minister for Sarawak Affairs against bagi sa-saorang ahli Parlimen itu the two Sarawak State Ministers and menjadi ahli beberapa buah parti the Honourable Federal Minister of politik sekali pun. Chuma-nya bergan­ Lands and Mines in the presence of tong-lah kapada Undang2 Tuboh parti the Honourable the Deputy Prime itu sendiri sama ada membenarkan sa­ Minister during his last visit to Kapit saorang ahli parti lain menjadi ahli­ of the Sarawak Third Division. nya atau pun tidak. A Member of Parliament represen­ The Prime Minister: The Central ting any Political Party is the person Government has not received any selected by his party. A member of report on the incident, therefore it is Parliament, representing the Alliance not deemed necessary to take action in West Malasia is a member of the on it. Alliance Party regardless of whether he is a member of the UMNO, M.C.A. KEMENTERIAN KEWANGAN or M.I.C.; a Member of Parliament from Sarawak representing the Alliance Bank Ne1ara Malaysia, Kehilangan $2,000 is a member of either the Pesaka Party, 103. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Bumiputra Party or of the S.C.A.; and Minister of Finance to state if it is a member of Parliament from Sabah true that recently $2,000 was lost at representing the Alliance is a member the Currency Sub-Centre of Bank of either the USNO or the S.C.A. Negara Malaysia at lpoh, and if so, If the Alliance Member of Parliament whether the loss was due to in­ goes over to West Malaysia and inter­ efficiency on the part of the staff, and venes in the Alliance Party here, he what steps Bank Negara Malaysia has is not to be taken as ah exception taken to prevent such a loss. because the Alliance Party in West Malaysia. and the Alliance Party in The Minister of Finance (Tun Tan East Malaysia are one and the same Siew Sin): In the course of exchanging Party. On the other hand, if a Member Board currency held by commercial of Parliament belongs to two political banks in Perak for Malaysian currency, parties of different ideologies, he must two Board currency notes of $1,000 choose to be a member of either one each were found to be missing at the of the political parties. For example, Currency Sub-Centre in Ipoh. This a Member of Parliament from Sarawak shortage was reported to the Police 2771 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2772 who conducted an investigation which organisations on the one hand and did not reveal conclusive evidence as commerce and industry on the other. to how the loss could have occurred. Whilst some of these resignations are a cause for regret, I have no doubt The Honourable Member may rest that Bank Negara will be able, at the assured that the handling of cash in same time, to maintain its high degree Bank Negara Malaysia is done with of efficiency as other officers are found great care. The currency changeover to replace those who have left. was a vast operation involving the dis­ tribution of new Malaysian currency to all parts of Malaysia and the return JABATAN BASIL DALAM NEGERI of old currency to the Currency Board Chartered Akauntan for redemption. As an indication of the size of the operation, up to 25th 105. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the October, 1967, Bank Negara had Minister of. Finance to state how many handled over $1,100 million of both Chartered Accountants were recruited the old and new currency in the by the Department of Inland Revenue currency changeover which is still for the period from 1-1-1966 to continuing. 30-6-1967, and of these how many are citizens and how many are non-citizens. Perletakan Jawatan Pegawai2 Tinggi Tun Tan Siew Sin: Seven Chartered 104. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Accountants were recruited by the Minister of Finance the reasons for the Department of Inland Revenue for the resignation of the following senior period from 1st January, 1966 to 30th officers of Bank Negara Malaysia: June, 1967, and of these, four are 1. Raja Khalid, Manager, Establish­ citizens and three are non-citizens. ment Department; 2. Siew Nim Chee, Chief Economist; 106. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Finance to state : 3. Chang Sow Khong, Chief Accoun­ tant/ Adviser; (a) how many chartered accountants who are citizens and who applied 4. Azam Hashimi, Assistant Chief for jobs with the Department Accountant; of Inland Revenue were rejected 5. Mohd. Yasin, Manager, Joh.ore because they were under-age, Bahru Branch of Bank Negara i.e., below the age of 30; Malaysia; (b) how many chartered accountants giving the reasons separately for each who are non-citizens and are officer and whether he is aware that the under-age have been recruited resignation of such senior staff may by the department; and well affect the efficiency of the bank, (c) why non-citizens who are under­ and if so, to state what steps Bank age are recruited. Negara has taken to prevent such resignations in future. Tun Tan Siew Sin: (a) Four applications from Malay­ Tun Tan Siew Sin: I am informed sian chartered accountants for by the Governor of Bank Negara that the persons named in the question jobs in the Department of Inland resigned from the Bank because they Revenue were rejected because they were under-age, i.e., below considered that they had better pros­ the age of 30 years. pects either in business on their own or by joining other organisations. In (b) On Australian chartered accoun­ the fast developing economy of Malay­ tant, who is now nearly 30 years sia where there is a great demand for old, has been recruited by the trained personnel and numerous oppor­ Department. tunities in commerce and industry, (c) The Australian chartered ac­ there are bound to be movements of countant was about 29 years old staff between Government and statutory at the time of his recruitment. 2773 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2774 He was accepted because he had the total amount of revenue collected previous income tax experience by the Inland Revenue Department which the other under-aged during the year 1966. candidates did not possess. Tun Tan Siew Sin: The details of Basil revenue collected by the Inland 107. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Revenue Department for the year 1966 Minister of Finance to give details of are as follows : West Malaysia Sarawak Sa bah Total Income Tax (including Tin Profit Tax) $320,248,016 $17,245,433 $26,065,456 $363,558,905 Payroll Tax ...... 20,835,600 1,140,830 1,830,931 23,807,361 Turnover Tax ...... 42,787,849 2,684,139 3,134,344 48,606,332 Cinematograph Film Hire Duty ... 2,778,012 213,585 245,320 3,236,917 Estate Duty ...... 6,086,152 - 288,504 6,374,656 Business Registration ...... 418,910 - - 418,910 Stamp Duties ...... 7,230,227 - 885,959 8,116,186 Betting and Sweepstakes ...... - - 72,165 72,165 The amount of Tin Profits Tax Tun Tan Siew Sin: The staff assessed in West Malaysia is employed in the Inland Revenue De­ $14,389,860. partment as on 30th September, 1967, is made up as follows : Perbelanjaan (a) Senior Officers- 108. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the (i) Malaysians . . . 111 Minister of Finance to give the total (ii) Expatriates . . . 17 expenditure for the Inland Revenue 128 Department for the year 1966 under (b) Locally-recruited Clerical the following heads : and Junior Staff ...... 1,069 (a) Personal Emoluments; (b) Other Charges-Annually Re­ Total ... 1,197 current; (c) Special Expenditure. Kaki2-tangan Dagang Tun Tan Siew Sin: 110. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Finance to state the num­ (a) Personal Emoluments $5,466,786 ber of expatriate personnel employed (b) Other Charges-An- as advisers and their qualifications in nually Recurrent . . . 973,942 the Inland Revenue Department as on (c) Other Charges-Spe- 31st October, 1967. cial Expenditure ... 277.716 Tun Tan Siew Sin: No expatriate Total ... $6,718,444 personnel were employed as advisers in the Department of Inland Revenue as on 31st October, 1967. Kaki-tangan 109. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Penyeludupan oleh Anggota Tentera British Minister of Finance to give details of 111. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the staff employed in the Inland Revenue Minister of Finance if he is aware of Department as on 30th September, the increasing incidence of smuggling 1967, under the following heads: by British Servicemen at the Johore (a) Senior Officers­ Bahru Customs Check-Point, if so, to (i) Expatriates, state what steps he has taken to put an end to such smuggling. (ii) Malaysians. (b) Locally-recruited Clerical and Tun Tan Siew Sin: I am well aware Junior Staff Personnel. that some British servicemen have been 2775 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2776 engaged in smuggling activities over employee is a contributing member of the Causeway at Johore Bahru, but I the Fund, he will continue to remain have no evidence that such activities as such for the period of his working are on the increase. Such British life until such time as he may be able servicemen as are arrested when to withdraw his credit with the Fund. attempting to smuggle, are subject to In order that such credit may be the same legal processes as anyoue else accumulated and safely invested by the who may be arrested in similar circum­ Fund with the interests of the contri­ stances, and are prosecuted in court in butor in mind, it is necessary that the normal way. The attention of the savings be set aside for this purpose relevant British military authorities has regularly for as long as an employee been drawn to this state of affairs and is a member of the Fund. This objec­ I am assured that they in turn take all tive will be defeated if the period of possible measures to try and curb these saving is shortened merely because a illegal activities on the part of their member's wages have increased to servicemen. beyond $500 per month. It should be remembered that the right to contribute Kumpulan Wan& Simpanan Pekerja2 to the Fund is one which also confers on the contributor the advantage of at 112. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the least an equivalent contribution from Minister of Finance to state when he his employer as well. will amend the E.P.F. Ordinance to enable contributors to borrow money to buy or build houses for themselves 114. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the and the reasons for such a long delay Minister of Finance to state whether over this amendment. teachers who were under the Methodist Teachers Provident Fund Scheme, and Tun Tan Siew Sin: The proposal to who retired from teaching but whose grant financial assistance from the funds were transferred to the E.P.F. Employees Provident Fund to its con­ would be allowed to withdraw the tributors for the purchase of houses credits standing in their names as they involves complicated matters of detail. could have withdrawn such amounts I am advised that, in order that a under the rules to which they originally viable scheme may be formulated, the subscribed. Employees Provident Fund Board requires to study similar schemes in Tun Tan Siew Sin: All provident other countries so that one suitable to funds declared as "approved funds" Malaysia's needs may then be worked under the Employees Provident Fund out. As soon as a scheme is recom­ Ordinance are required by sub-section mended to Government it will be given (7A) of section 16 to permit their contri­ every consideration. The apparent buting members to withdraw their delay is not due to a lack of interest credits on attaining the age of 55 years in this subject, but because of the need or at any time thereafter. The Metho­ for extensive research on the part of dist Teachers and Clerks Provident the Board. Fund, to give it its proper name, being such an approved fund is statutorily 113. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the bound to allow withdrawals when Minister of Finance to state the neces­ teachers who contribute to it attain sity for requiring persons who have their 55th birthday, whether or not they changed their occupation or profession retire at that age. The age rather than and who draw a salary of more than the time of retirement is the criterion $500 per month to continue to contri­ for withdrawal. bute to the E.P.F. The contributions of such of those Tun Tan Siew Sin: The objective of teachers who have ceased to be the Employees Provident Fund is to eligible to contribute to the Methodist provide for retiring benefits to be avail­ Teachers and Clerks Provident Fund, able to certain categories of employed and before they have reached the age persons. It is consistent with this of 55 years, are transferred to the objective to ensure that, once such an Employees Provident Fund as required 2777 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2778 by section (4) of section 16 of the in paper-rubber. The Government is Employees Provident Fund Ordinance. aware that, with the resources avail­ These contributions are then held on able to it, it would not be possible to their account until withdrawn on their reverse long term price trends. In any attaining the age of 55 years or there­ case, such an objective would be after, or at any time on medical unrealistic and would militate against grounds, or because they are leaving the long-term interests of the natural the country permanently. This transfer rubber industry itself, even if the of funds is required so that the contri­ required financial resources were avail­ butor can be a member of the able. Employees Provident Fund, should he be further employed, in order that this Chukai Pembangunan retirement benefits can continue to be 116. Tuan Toh Theam Hock asks the accumulated. Minister of Finance whether in view of No teacher, even under the rules of the many representations made to the Methodist Teachers and Clerks Government particularly from the Provident Fund, can withdraw from hawkers in respect of Development this particular Fund before he reaches Tax, will the Minister raise the the age of 55 years, unless he is leaving minimum development income for the country with no intention of individuals above the present $500, returning, or has become medically, and if so, what new minimum level he totally and permanently incapacitated intends to fix. for any employment. Tun Tan Siew Sin: The Government Bantuan Kewanaan kapada Pekerja:Z has been examining representations that the exemption limit for indivi­ 115. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the duals of $500 per annum for develop­ Minister of Finance to state whether ment tax purposes, should be increa­ he would consider giving direct finan­ sed. No decision has yet been taken on cial assistance to those workers this question, though I should say that concerned in the production of rubber I am sympathetic to the plea that the in estates and small-holdings, instead exemption limit should be revised of buying rubber on the market,. which upwards. action assists not only the local estates huge and small but also the share­ Pengambilan Chukai Setem daripada holders, the dealers in "paper-rubber" Perjanjian2 dan Surat Sumpah and the speculators as well as rubber producers in other countries including 117. Tuan Lee Seek Fun asks the the share-holders and dealers in the Minister of Finance to consider reviving United Kingdom and America. the services of Stamping of Agreements and Statutory Declarations by the Tun Tan Siew Sin: It is difficult to Chief Clerk, Town Council Office, justify direct financial assistance to Tanjong Malim or by the Court workers in any one industry merely Interpreter who is also the Commis­ because of adverse market conditions sioner of Oath, Court House, Tanjong as this would inevitably lead to other Malim to save the poor people having workers in other industries asking for to travel 22 miles to Slim River similar assistance when they are simi­ Treasury Office to stamp an agreement. larly affected. In any case, such assistance, which would be prohibi­ Tun Tan Siew Sin: With the transfer tively expensive, will not help to of the seat of administration of the remove the root causes of the trouble. Sub-District of Tanjong Malim from Tanjong Malim to Slim River in, 1962, I should make it clear that the it has been administratively convenient Government had only a limited objec­ for the stamping of documents, etc. tive when it decided on 13th Septem­ to be performed at Slim River. ber last to intervene in the rubber However, the request for a similar market, and that was to check what it service to be provided at Tanjong believed to be excessive speculation Malim as well will be considered after 2779 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2780 due consultation with the relevant Basil authorities and departments. 119. Tuan Sim Boon Liang asks the Minister of Finance to state : Pegawai2 Kastam di-Sarawak (a) the Federal Revenue collected 118. Tuan Sim Boon Liang asks the from Salaries Tax, Business Pro­ Minister of Finance to state : fits Tax. Payroll Tax, Develop­ (a) the number of Customs Officers ment Tax. and Surtax in in Sarawak promoted to Superin­ Sarawak for the year 1966; and tendents and Assistant Superin­ (b) the Federal Revenue collected tendents in 1966 and 1967; from the Customs in Sarawak (b) how many of them are Malays. for the year 1966. Dayaks, Chinese. and others; and Tun Tan Siew Sin: (c) whether promotion was based (a) Federal Revenue collected in on qualification and efficiency. Sarawak in 1966 from sources specified in .the question above is as follows- Tun Tan Siew Sin: $million (a) Two promotions each were Salaries Tax . .. 2.1 made in 1966 to the rank of ·Business Profits Superintendent and Assistant Tax• ...... 2.1 Payroll Tax . .. 1.1 Superintendent. In 1967 there Development Tax Nil} introduced were two further promotions to Surtax ...... Nil in 1967 Assistant Superintendent and (b) Federal Revenue collected by one to Superintendent. Customs from Sarawak for the (b) It is not our policy to give a year 1966 totalled $42.3 million racial breakdown of this nature comprising the following major unless such a breakdown is categories- relevant to the question. In this (i) Export duties ... $ 5.1 million case, it is felt that it is not. (ii) Import duties ... 35.5 (c) The promotions were made by (iii) Excise ...... 1.1 the Public Services Commission Total . .. $42.3 million which would no doubt have taken into account the qualifica­ • Excludes Corporation Profits Tax. tions and efficiency of the officers 120. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the concerned when the promotion Minister of Finance to give details of exercise was conducted. I am revenue collected separately from informed that these officers were income tax and payroll tax during the also required to act in the posts first 9 months of 1967. to which they were promoted for a trial period to prove them­ Tun Tan Siew Sin: The details of selves qualified for and worthy income tax and payroll tax collections of such promotion. during the first 9 months of 1967 are: West Malaysia Sarawak Sabah Total Income Tax (Including Tin Profits Tax and Develop· ment Tax which are supple· mentary to Income Tax) $280,868,466 $10,579,338 $32,614.944 $324,062,748 Payroll Tax ...... 17,222,954 J,084,695 1,624,243 19,931,892 It is not practicable to separate The Honourable Member may. how­ collections for income tax, tin profits ever, wish to note that. over this period, tax and development tax because parti­ cular payments sent in by taxpayers the assessments for tin profits tax are often made in part settlement of totalled $14.8 million and that for · their combined liabilities to these taxes. development tax $37.1 million. 2781 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2782

Pengampurum terhadap Orane2 yanr MINISTRY OF FINANCS- Mengelakkan Chukai Pendapatan 1964 ... 9 $ 20,761.54 1.21. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the 1965 ... s 23,408.00 Minister of Finance to state the 1966 ... 11 27,254.88 number of persons who have to-date 1967 ... 12 25,061.00 availed themselves of the amnesty for income tax evasion, and the total MINISTRY OF WORKS, POSTS amount payable by them. AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS- Tun Tan Siew Sin: Three persons 1964 ... 16 $ 60,769.86 have so far come forward to avail 1965 ... 7 36,112.00 themselves of the amnesty for income 1966 ... 12 46,752.00 tax evasion and the total yield is 1967 ... 8 28,498.00 estimated to be $30,000. MINISTRY OF COMMERCE Penyata Bulanan kapada Bank Negara AND INoUSTRY- 1964 ... 33 122. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the $210,888.00 Minister of Finance to state when the 1965 ... 12 41,188.00 Government proposes to introduce 1966 ... 26 78,792.00 amendments to present legislation to 1967 ... 34 121,432.50 compel all banks to report monthly to MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE Bank Negara particulars of all advances AND Co·OPERATIYES- granted to the4" directors. 1964 ... 11 $ 34,522.00 Tun Tan Siew Sin: Under the pro­ 1965 ... 15 73,116.00 visions of the Banking Ordinance, 1966 ... 15 51,580.00 1958, banks are prohibited from 1967 ... 12 48,650.00 making unsecured loans or advances of more than $5,000 to their own directors. MINISTRY OF EDUCATION- In addition to this provision, a new 1964 ... 10 $ 67,379.00 provision will be included in the Bill 1965 ... 2 1,327.00 to amend the Banking Ordinance to be 1966 ... 8 24,008.77 introduced at the meeting of the Dewan 1967 Ra'ayat from 13th to 18th November, 1967, requiring all banks to report MINISTRY OF HOME AF· monthly to Bank Negara Malaysia all FAIRS-- loans and advances, including un­ 1964 ... 1 ... $ 3,100.00 secured loans and advances, extended 1965 ... 2 ... 12,612.50 to their own directors. 1966 ... 2 . .. 11,258.00 Pegawai2 Meqhadhiri Peniclanpn2 1967 ... 1 ... 2,037.00 123. Tuu C. V. Devan Nair asks the MINISTRY OF JUSTICE- Minister of Finance to give the 1964 following figures for the first 10 months 1965 ... 4 $ 20,893.06 for 1964, 1965, 1966 and 1967, the 1966 ... 7 14,502.00 number of officials who were sent abroad to attend conference, giving a 1967 breakdown on a Ministry-by-Ministry MINISTRY OF HEALm- basis, and the total expenses incurred 1964 ... 11 $ 33,277.35 thereof. 1965 ..• 13 53,328.00 Tun Tan Siew Sin: The ·figures are 1966 ... 10 31,546.00 as follows: 1967 ... 7 25,201.00 MINISTRY OF LABOUR- No.of Total MINISTRY OF INFoRMAnoN Year officials expenditure AND BROADCASTING- 1964 ... 9 ... $ 49,192.00 1964 ... 4 $ 16,241.00 1965 ... 7 ... 38,896.00 1965 ... 4 16,174.00 1966 ... 12 ... SS,956.00 1966 ..• 3 5,369.00 1967 ... 9 ... 34,630.00 1967 567.00 - 2783 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2784

MINISTRY OF LANDS AND Malaysia and presented to the MINES- Currency Board for redemption, 1964 ... 3 $ 11,723.00 and the balance of the old notes 1965 ... 2 7,000.00 still in circulation; and 1966 ... 5 17,971.00 (b) the total value of new currency 1967 ... 4 17,488.40 now in circulation . MINISTRY OF TRANSPORT- 1964 Tun Tan Siew Sin: 1965 ... 14 $ 45,489.95 (a) The total amount of currency 1966 ... 10 12,686.00 issued by the Boord of Com­ 1967 ... 5 26,972.00 missioners of Currency, Malaya and British Borneo, which has MINISTRY OF LOCAL GOVERN­ been withdrawn from circula­ MENT AND HOUSING- tion in Malaysia by Bank 1964 Negara Malaysia as at 31st 1965 ... 1 ... $ 1,200.00 October, 1967, was $597.9 1966 ... 2 ... 4,261.00 million and the amount surren­ 1967 dered to the Currency Board MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AF- for redemption as at the same FAIRS- date was $597.3 million, the 1964 ... 1 ... $ 5,516.00 difference being held by the 1965 branches of Bank Negara pend­ 1966 ... 4 ... 13,701.00 ing redemption. According to 1967 the information available to the Board of Commissioners of MINISTRY OF CULTURE, Currency, Malaya and British YOUTH AND SPORTS- Borneo, the amount of its 1964 currency in circulation in Malay­ 1965 sia, Singapore and Brunei, as at 1966 ... 6 $ 8,443.00 31st October, 1967, totalled 1967 $621 million. As the currency MINISTRY OF WELFARE SER­ of the Boord circulates in three VICES- countries, it is not possible to 1964 say how much of this outstand­ 1965 ... 2 $ 8,855.90 ing amount of Board currency 1966 in circulation is in Malaysia. 1967 (b) Information on the amount of MINISTRY OF RURAL DEVE­ Malaysian currency issued by LOPMENT- Bank Negara Malaysia in circu­ 1964 ... 2 $ 1,811.00 lation is given in the State­ 1965 ... 3 8,236.00 ment of Assets and Liabilities 1966 published twice monthly by 1967 Bank Negara Malaysia. Accord­ ing to the latest statement PRIME MINISTER'S DEPART­ relating to the position as at MENT- 31st October, 1967, the total 1964 ... 14 $ 50,427.00 value of Malaysian currency in 1965 ... 11 21,518.97 circulation there was $568.8 1966 ... 19 42,137.78 million. 1967 ... 14 32,142.50 Ranchangan2 Prestige Matawang Lama/Babaru 125. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the 124. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the Minister of Finance to define his - Minister of Finance to state : Ministry's use of the phrase "prestige (a) the total amount of the old projects" in its present campaign to currency which had been with­ cut down development expenditure, drawn from circulation in and to give three examples of the most

------2785 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2786 extravagant "prestige projects" which consideration to shock-absorb the the Government had completed since economy of Malaysia and if he would independence, under the Ministry's own announce the details. definition. Tun Tan Siew Sin: The Honourable Tun Tan Siew Sin: I am not aware Member seems to have suddenly that any prestige project has been pro­ awakened to the need for diversifying ceeded with, if such expression is the Malaysian economy as a result of defined to mean a project which does the fall in the price of rubber. He not promote the national interest in should, however, take note that one of any way. the stated objectives of the First Malaysia Plan is "to stimulate new Penchen kinds of economic activity, both agri· 126. Dato' Dr Haji Megat Khas ber­ cultural and industrial, so as to reduce tanya kapada Menteri Kewangan the nation's dependence on rubber and sa-takat ini berapa banyak wang yang tin." It was generally expected that the telah di-bayar sa-bagai penchen pada price of rubber would decline over the tiap2 tahun semenjak Hari Merdeka. years, although the extent of the fall in 1967 has been more severe than was Tun Tan Siew Sin: J umlah penchen generally anticipated. It is not helpful awam yang telah di-bayar pada tiap2 to speak in terms of a crash plan to tahun semenjak Harl Merdeka ada-lah reduce our dependence on rubber, but saperti berikut: the various measures that have been (i) 1958 $53,634,579.08 adopted by the Government to promote (ii) 1959 53,954,821.40 industrial development and other agri­ cultural activities should bear fruit in (iii) 1960 57,769,386.27 the fullness of time. (iv) 1961 58,110,833.66 (v) 1962 44,542,883.49 Pembayar2 Chukai Berdaftar (vi) 1963 44,562,580. 71 128. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the (vii) 1964 44,082,944.75 Minister of Finance to give details of (viii) 1965 45,947,550.15 the number of registered taxpayers under the following two heads for (ix) 1966 55,494,195.95 1967: Jumlah penchen dalam tahun 1967 tidak dapat di-nyatakan sekarang oleh (a) Commercial; kerana tahun itu maseh belum tamat ( b) Salary earners. dan kira2 maseh belum di-tutup, tetapi ada-lah di-jangka sa-hingga 31hb Tun Tan Siew Sin: Required details Disember, 1967, jumlah penchen itu of individual taxpayers for 1967 are as ia-lah lebeh kurang $53,548,000. follows: Angka yang tersebut di-atas ia-lah (a) Business-- mengenai penchen pegawai2 awam West Malaysia 60,000 Kerajaan yang bersara di-Malaysia Barat sahaja. Oleh sebab masa yang Sa bah 12,000 sengkat, tidak-lah dapat di-beri jumlah Sarawak 10,000 penchen pada tiap2 tahun semenjak Hari Merdeka mengenai pegawai2 yang 82,000 bersara di-Malaysia Timor.

Membahagi2kan Ekonomi Malaysia (b) Salaried Employees­ West Malaysia 115,000 127. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Finance to state in view of Sa bah 16,500 the alarming decline in the price of Sarawak 9,000 rubber on the world's markets, what crash plans for diversification of 140,500 Malaysia's economy he has under 2787 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2788 Perbinchangan2 Menteri order to resolve their frustrations over their demands for a pay revision and 129. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the payment of retirement benefits and if Minister of Finance to make a factual so, to state what the Rubber Industry statement on the results of his recent Replanting Boatd has done regarding discussions with U.S.A. Government authorities on stockpile releases of this request. rubber and tin which seriously affect Dr Lim Swee Aun: I am aware the economy of Malaysia. of the request made by the Senior Tun Tan Siew Sin: As a special Replanting Officers' Union in 1960 to emissary of the Prime Minister, I the Rubber Industry Replanting Board discussed the problems arising from the to form a joint council. The Board had sharp fall in the price of rubber with already considered this request and President Johnson and senior officials had informed the Union that since not of his Administration. It was recognised all the Senior Officers were members of that the basic problems relating to the Union then and also facilities were rubber; prices are complex and involve available for any negotiations, the many factors. I outlined some possibi­ formation of a joint council was lities for meeting these problems. Under considered not necessary. Since then such circumstances, there should be a the Board has received no further continuing dialogue in order to follow officials request for the formation of a up the original discussions. I did not joint council, from the Senior Replan­ discuss the G.S.A. stockpile releaseSI of ting Officers' Union. tin on this occasion. Pan-Malaysia Cement Works PerwakiJan2 Rumi 132. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the 130. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the Minister of Commerce and Industry if Minister of Finance to state the total he is aware that the Pan-Malaysia number of officials who were sent Cement Works on 23rd September, abroad on official missions in the 1967, approved of the payment of first IO months of this year and last $800,000 to two directors for services year, the expenses incurred for air rendered to the company, and that if fares for the two periods, and to state the company had been less prodigal in how many of them travelled by tourist its award to its award to its directors, class and the amounts involved. the consumers would stand to benefit from a reduction in the price of Tun Tan Siew Sin: The figures are cement from that company; if so, to as follows: state what steps he proposes to take Total Total No. of Total Cost to prevent such fabulous payments to No. of Expendi- Officers by Tourist Officers ture on Travel- or Economy directors. Air Fares ling by Class Tourist or Dr Lim Swee Aun: I would like Economy Class to state that my Ministry is not aware 1966 . . 181 $230,644.9). 111 $100,897.93 of this payment, except from press 1967 . . 133 190,966.50 109 126,449.SO reports. This Company, along with Total for 1966 other cement manufacturers, is not a and 1967 . . 314 $421,611.43 220 $227,347.43 pioneer company and in matters of this nature, they are not under statutory obligation to obtain my approval or KEMENTERIAN PERDAGANGAN otherwise for payments of this nature. DAN PERUSAHAAN Under the new Companies Act of 1965, Kesatuan Pegawai2 Tinggi Penanaman companies need not obtain approval or Sa-mula otherwise on matters of this nature. 131. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Commerce and Industry Pasaran Getah whether he is aware of the request for 133. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the a joint council machinery by the Minister of Commerce and Industry Senior Replanting Officers' Union in how much money the Malaysian 2789 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2790 Government has made or lost by going earned by the country's tourist trade for into the rubber market for the months the past five years. of September and October, 1967, giving the figures separately for each month. Dr Lim Swee Aun: Bank records of overseas travellers' cheques, drafts and Dr Lim Swee Aun: It is not in the travellers' letters of credit cashed national interests to reveal, at this in local banks and collated by the stage, information relating to the Department of Statistics show that Government Rubber Trading Trust during the past five years (1961-1966), Account. tourist receipts totalled $70.35 million.

Hire-purchase Act, 1967 The breakdown by years is as follows: 134. Tuan Lee Seek Fun asks the 1962 ...... $ 9.4 million Minister of Commerce and Industry to 1963 ...... 10.4 state: 1964 ...... 14.1 (a) whether his Ministry has made 1965 15.9 " a survey of finance Companies, 1966 20.5 Limited Companies and private firms dealing with Motor $70.3 million Vehicles, Radios, Televisions, Refrigerators and Sewing Ma­ chines on Hire-purchase; Perusahaan Besl dan Bijeh Timah (b) if the answer is in the affirmative 136. Tuan C~ V. Devan Nair asks the whether his Ministry has taken Minister of Commerce and Industry action to see that these Com­ whether he has received recommenda­ panies comply with the Hire­ tions from the ECAFE on the pooling purchase Act, 1967; and of resources of six South East Asian (c) if the answer is in the negative countries to develop the iron and steel when his Ministry will take industry in the region, and to state such actions. the Government's attitude towards the report. Dr Lim Swee Aun: (a) No, my Ministry has not made Dr Lim Swee Aun: I have not yet such a survey. received the report and recommenda­ tions from ECAFE regarding the (b) & (c) The coming into force of pooling of resources of the six South the Hire-purchase Act, 1967, East Asian countries to develop the does not require that my Minis­ iron and steel industry in this region. try should make a survey of Finance and other companies Chukai Barang2 yang di-lmpot ka-Amerika dealing in the hire-purchase of Sharikat Goods as listed in the First Schedule to the Act. The Act 137. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the itself contains built-in and self­ Minister of Commerce and Industry regulatory provisions which pro­ to state: vide sufficient safeguards for the (a) if the Malaysian Government has consumers against unscrupulous made representations to the owners. Nevertheless, when it is United States Government regard- _ found necessary, my Ministry ing the imposition of tariffs on will carry out such a survey to a wide range of imports into the ensure that the dealers comply United States of America now with the provisions of the Act. being debated in the Congress; and Wang Tukaran Luar Negeri (b) if so, what is the reply. 135. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the Minister of Commerce and Industry to Dr Lim Swee Aun: The Ministry of state the amount of foreign exchange Commerce and Industry is aware of 2791 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2792 the debate now in progress in the U.S. Dr Lim Swee Aun: The primary Congress regarding certain proposals to purpose of Government intervention impose protective tariffs on a wide in the rubber market is to counteract range of products imported into the the depresssive action of certain mani­ U.S.A. It is understood that the pro­ pulators and in so doing bring about ducts which will be affected will be more equitable and remunerative levels those which are mainly imported from of rubber price. The Government's other developed countries. We have action in entering the market is not to not mad,e any representations in view of raise the price of rubber but to counter­ the fact that most of our export items act manipulation. The decline in the to the U.S.A. do not attract any duty. price of rubber was due largely to the Tin and Natural Rubber are the two economic conditions prevailing in other important Malaysian exports to the parts of the world and this decline U.S. constituting approximately 85% affected not only RSS 1 but all other of total Malaysian exports to that lower grades as well. As regards the country in 1966. However, the Ministry subsidising of rubber for smallholders, is seeking more information as to it is generally not the policy of the whether the proposals may affect any Government to provide any form of product of interest to Malaysia. If so, subsidy to the smallholders. As far appropriate representations will be as helping the rubber smallholders made. directly is concerned, this is done through providing them with assistance Peladang2 Kechil Getah in the form of replanting grants, facili­ 138. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the ties for improving product preparation Minister of Commerce and Industry in and presentation in order to upgrade view of the present depressed price of the quality of the smallholders rubber rubber what action he has taken to and other advisory services. give some form of direct relief to rubber smallholders to alleviate their Kenaikan Barga Barang2 Mustahak hardships. 140. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Commerce and Industry Dr Lim Swee Aun: Generally, it is to state the action which he has taken not the policy of Government to to combat price increases of essential render direct assistance to any industry commodities which in June 1967 which has found itself in difficulties topped 108.5 total weighted index over because this will make it difficult for the 1959 base of 100. Government to refuse similar assis­ tance to other industries which might Dr Lim Swee Aun: This Ministry find themselves in the same plight. has taken the following steps to com­ However, in view of the importance bat profiteering and unnecessary in­ of the rubber industry to the national crease in the prices of essential economy of Malaysia, the Government commodities : regards the present low price for NR 1. In January 1967, an Advisory as one of importance and therefore has Committee on Prices of Essential taken a series of measure aimed at Commodities was set up to ad­ solving this problem. vise the Government of ways and means to combat price increases 139. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the of essential commodities. Minister of Commerce and Industry to state if he is aware that although the 2. In June 1967, an Order was intro­ Government entered the rubber market duced under the Price Control as a purchaser to raise the price of Ordinance, 1946, requiring every rubber such intervention did not really retailer to affix a tag on the bag benefit the smallholders whose main or container to show the grades crops are RSS Nos. 3, 4 and 5, and if and retail prices of the following so, whether he would consider sub­ articles: sidising the price of rubber for small­ (i) Rice of all types. holders. (ii) Sugar. 2793 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2794 (iii) Wheat Flour. tions of service of Government and (iv) Cooking Oil. quasi-Government employees. 3. Supplies Inspectors are making Jabatan Perdagangan Luar surprise checks on all retail shops 143. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the in the country to see that all Minister of Commerce and Industry if essential commodities are sold at he is aware of the recommendation by a reasonable price. Haji Sujak bin Abdul Rahman, Chair­ 4. The public are invited to lodge man Tariff Advisory Board to set up complaints with this Ministry a department of foreign trade in his through P.O. Box 8000. Ministry to assist manufacturers to export local goods and whether he Mengkokohkan Barga Getah consider setting it up as soon as 141. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the possible. Minister of Commerce and Industry to Dr Lim Swee Aun: Yes, I am aware make a factual statement on Govern­ of the suggestion made by the Chair­ ment's efforts to reach an understanding man of the Tariff Advisory Board that with the U.S.A. Government for stabili­ my Ministry should set up a depart­ sation of the price of rubber. ment of foreign trade to assist local manufacturers to export local goods. Dr Lim Swee Aun: The Minister of This suggestion came to my know­ Finance had talks with the President ledge through newspaper reports and of the U.S.A. In view of the com­ I have not officially received any plexity of the problem, no agreement specific recommendations from him. was reached on the method of stabi­ It should be realised that, at the lising the price of NR. The Malaysian moment, most of our industries are Government and the U.S. Government primarily import substitution industries have agreed to study this problem more while only a limited number are pro­ closely from time to time. ducing for exports. For the present, I consider that the newly established Kesatuan Pekerja2 Lambaga Letrik Negara Trade Commissioners' Service will be 142. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the sufficient for export promotion pur­ Minister of Commerce and Industry poses and manufacturers are advised to state if he is aware that the 4,500- to make full use of these Trade Com­ strong National Electricity Board missioners Service to help them export Employees Union has threatened to their products to foreign markets. In go on strike if the N.E.B. does not addition, the Government has parti­ start negotiations on their wage claims cipated in International Trade Fairs and the reason for the N.E.B. dragging and encouraged selling missions to go its feet over this wage claim. abroad for the purpose of promoting exports of local products. Dr Lim Swee Aun: I am fully aware of the position with regard to the If and when circumstances warrant wage claim submitted by the N.E.B. it, consideration will be given to the Employees Union. As the Honourable establishment of a more formal and Member is aware, the Government has specialised export promotion depart­ set up the Suffian Commission to ment in my Ministry. examine the salary and structure and Secretariat Melayu conditions of service of Government employees. The Government has 144. Tengku Zaid bin Tengku Ahmad received the Report of the Commis­ bertanya kapada Menteri Perdagangan sion and is now actively examining it. dan Perusahaan: I do not consider it opportune for (a) ada-kah Jabatan Setia-usaha N.E.B. to start negotiations with the bagi Orang2 Melayu dalam Union whilst the Government is still lapangan Perdagangan itu maseh considering the report of the Commis­ ada lagi atau tidak; sion, the result of which would (b) jika ada lagi boleh-kah beliau inevitably affect the salaries and condi- beritahu Dewan bahawa dengan 2795 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2796 ketiadaan Menteri Muda untok (2) Shell Refining Co. Ltd- Me\ayu China India menguruskan kerja2 Jabatan itu 1. Pengurusan dan Penyelidekan 2 3 2 maka banyak kerja2 Jabatan itu 2. Penyeliaan .. .. 5 9 2 3. Teknik dan Jualan .. .. 8 18 hanya terlaksana di-kertas 4. Kakitangan Pejabat Runchit 39 2 4 sahaja dan tidak terurus

Meshuarat' Perkarl!' yang di-binchangkan MAJLIS PENOH: 15hb Mei, 1967 ... Rang Undang2 Perhubongan Perusabaan Perluasan Bidang Kuat·kuasa Undang2 Pe­ kerjaan, 1955 i Pindaan2 Undang2 Pekerjaan, 1955 Pindaan 0.:dinance Chuti2 Mingguan, 1950 2803 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2804 '-. Meshu11rat' Perkara' yang di-binchangkan JAWATAN-KUASA TETAP: 4hb Januari, 1967 Rang Undang2 Kilang dan Jentera Perluasan Bidang Kuat-kuasa Undang2 Pe­ kerjaan, 1955 Pindaan Undang2 Pekerjaan, 1955 15hb / 16hb Mei, 1967 Rang Undang2 Perhubongan Perusahaan 18hb Ogos, 1967 ... Rang Undang2 (Pindaan) Perhubongan Per­ usahaan JAWATAN-KUASA KER1A BERKENAAN KE­ SELAMATAN, KESIHATAN DAN KEBAJIKAN: 18hb Januari, 1967 ...... • } 14hb Jun, 1967 ...... 20hb Jun, 1967 ...... Rang Undang2 Kilang2 dan Jentera 27hb Jun, 1967 ...... • lOhb Julai, 1967 ...... The N.J.L.A.C. is functioning. Meetings Matters discussed FULL COUNCIL: 15th May, 1967 ... Industrial Relations Bill Extension in Scope of Employment Ordinance, 1955 Amendments .to Employment Ordinance, 1955, and Regulations Amendment to Weekly Holidays Ordinance; 1950 STANDING COMMITTEE: 4th January, 1967 Factories and Machinery Bill Extension in Scope of Employment Ordinance, 1955 Amendment to Employment Ordinance, 1955 15th/ 16th May, 1967 Industrial Relations Bill 18th August, 1967 Industrial Relations (Amendment) Bill WORKING COMMITTEE ON SAFETY, HEALTH AND WELFARE: 18th January, 1967 ... I 14th June, 1967 20th June, 1967 27th June, 1967 ... ::: JFactori<• •nd M•cllln"Y Bill 10th July, 1967 Kesatuan Kebangsaan Pekerja2 Lombong 1967. Perkara ini sedang di-pertim­ Tanah Melayu bangkan di-Kementerian. 156. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the The recommendation of the 4th Minister of Labour whether he had Biennial Delegates Conference of the received any representations from the National Mining Workers' Union of National Mining Workers' Union of Malaya to this effect was received in Malaya calling for the substitution of this Ministry on 13th October, 1967. the term "labourer" occurring in all The matter is now being considered in labour legislation by the more appro­ the Ministry. priate term "worker" or "workman" ·and the action which he intends to take. 157. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the Minister of Labour to state the redress which the National Mining Workers' Tuan V. Manickavasagam: Perakuan Union had in Industrial Court Case Persidangan Ke-4 Wakil2 Kesatuan No. 1 of 1967 concerning recognition t Kebangsaan Pekerja2 Lombong, Malaya referred by him to the Industrial Court di-atas perkara ini telah di-terima oleh on 15th August, 1967 in which the Kementerian ini pada 13hb Oktober, award has been delayed for over thirty

--- ?. 2805 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2806 days under section 27 (3) of the Indus­ any plan to meet any serious economici trial Relations Act, 1967 which reads: recession especially in the field of "the Court shall make its award employment, and if so, whether he without delay and where practicable would make such a plan public. within thirty days from the date of reference to it of the trade dispute." Tuan V. Manickavasagam: Ran­ changan2 Kemajuan Kerajaan bertu­ Tuan V. Manickavasagam: Per- juan untok mempelbagaikan ekonomi kataan yang mustahak dalam sekshen dan menempatkan di-perengkat yang 27 (3) Act Perhubongan Perusahaan, lebeh stabil, bukan sahaja untok meng­ 1967 ia-lah: "where practicable within galakkan kemajuan ekonomi dan sosial 30 days ....". Dalam hal ini Mah­ tetapi juga untok mengelakkan apa2 kamah Perusahaan tidak boleh mem­ perpechahan yang tenat apabila ber­ buat apa2 pengurniaan-nya di-atas ner­ laku kesempitan ekonomi. Ekonomi tikaian tersebut kerana sebab2 yang pertanian yang terutama-nya sedang di­ tidak dapat di-kawal-nya. ubah beransor-ansor supaya mengan­ The operative words in section 27 (3) dongi bahagian perusahaan yang lebeh of the Industrial Relations Act, 1967 luas, dan bahagian pertanian itu sedang are "where practicable within 30 di-pelbagaikan supaya tidak lagi ber­ days ....". In this case, the Industrial gautong kapada penghasilan getab Court could not proceed to make its sahaja tetapi meliputi juga penghasilan award on the dispute for reasons kelapa bali, nanas dan lain2 tanam­ beyond its control. tanaman. 158. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the The Development Plans of the Minister of Labour to state if he has Government are aimed at diversifying received any representations from the the economy and putting it on a more National Mining Workers' Union stable footing, not to promote economic calling for the setting up of a Suffian and social advancement but also to Commission to enquire into the system avoid any serious disruption in the of contract employment of workers in event of an economic recession. The the mining industry as well as in other primarily agricultural economy is industries and make recommendations being gradually transformed to have a for safeguarding the basic rights of greater industrial sector component, such workers, and if so, what action and the agricultural sector itself is he has taken or proposes to take. being diversified to depart from the Tuan V. Manickavasagam: Satu high dependence on rubber to include permintaan dari Kesatuan Kebangsaan oil palm, pineapple and other crops. Pekerja2 Lombong, Malaya, bagi menu­ bohkan satu Surohanjaya bagi menyia­ Gammon-Larsen clan Neilson sat sistem kerja borong telah di-tenma 160. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the di-Kementerian ini pada 13hb Oktober, Minister of Labour to state: 1967. Kementerian ini telah pun menu­ lis kapada Kesatuan tersebut meminta (a) if it is true that truck drivers keterangan lanjut berkenaan permin­ employed by the firm of taan itu. Gammon-Larsen and Neilson at A request from the National Mining the Low Cost Housing Scheme Workers' Union of Malaya to establish at Jalan Pekeliling are paid by a royal commission to inquire into the the hour and that if there is no contract system of employment was work for them for the day they received in this Ministry on 13th are paid only ! day's wage; and October, 1967. The Ministry has since (b) if so, why these drivers are not written to the Union seeking further being given a daily or even a clarification on its request. monthly wage. · Kemerosotan Ekonomi Tuan V. Manickavasagam: My 1 159. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the investigations reveal that they are Minister of Labour if he has drawn up paid by the day and not by the hour. 2807 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2808 161. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the perlu bagi juru2 terbang helikopter Minister of Labour to state whether dan bagi latehan lanjutan bagi juru2 the workers employed by Gammon­ terbang yang telah terlateh. Ada-lah Larsen and Neilson are given free menjadi tanggong-jawab Tentera Udara medical facilities by the said firm, and di-Raja Malaysia supaya sentiasa ber­ if not, why. sedia pada waktu siang atau malam bagi bertindak atas panggilan dzarurat Tuan V. Manickavasagam: Yes. baik mengenai gerakan atau pun penerbanganl untok menyelamatkan 162. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the jiwa. Ranchangan untok menggantikan Minister of Labour to state if he is pegawai2 dagang dengan pegawai aware that when the workers employed Malaysia ada-lah sekarang berjalan by Gammon-Larson and Neilson fall dengan lanchar-nya dan ini meng­ sick and their illness is supported by hendaki juru2 terbang Malaysia men­ medical certificates they still do not dapat latehan2 terbang yang lebeh get paid for the days that they are on banyak daripada yang biasa-nya di­ sick leave, and if so, what steps he has kehendaki. Dalam pada itu tindakan taken to put an end to such an telah di-ambil untok mengurangkan exploitation of workers by the said kesusahan kapada orang ramai terbit firm. daripada latehan terbang ini. Heli­ kopter2 telah di-arahkan supaya ter­ Tuan V. Manickavasagam: I am bang mengikut satu ruang penerbangan aware that the workers employed by yang di-sediakan yang mengurangkan this Company are not provided paid sa-berapa boleh helikopter itu terbang sick leave facilities. This is a matter di-atas kawasan2 yang ramai pen­ which normally could be discussed dudok-nya. between the parties concerned. Oleh kerana perkara penerbangan KEMENTERIAN PERTAHANAN ada-lah untok faedah negara dan untok faedah keselamatan penerbangan Helikopter Tentera Udara di-Raja Malaysia 'am-nya di-harapkan orang ramai tidak membangkang sangat akan 163. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the latehan terbang malam oleh kapal2 Minister of Defence if he is aware of terbang Tentera Udara di-Raja Malay­ the complaints by residents of Petaling sia. Hill, Kuala Lumpur about the RMAF helicopters flying over their roof tops Kilang Peluru at night, so, to state what steps he has 164. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the taken over these complaints. Minister of Defence to give details of the ownership and production of the Menteri Pertahanan (Tun Haji Abdul proposed small arms ammunition plant, Razak bin Dato' Hussain): Kerajaan and to name the members of the ada-lah sedar tentang aduan pen­ board of directors of the two local dudok2 Bukit Petaling, Kuala Lumpur partners of the enterprise, viz. Sharikat mengenai helikopter Tentera Udara Permodalan Kebangsaan and Sharikat di-Raja Malaysia terbang di-atas Jaya Raya. kawasan mereka pada waktu malam. Latehan terbang malam biasa-nya di­ Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Kilang adakan sa-kali sa-minggu selama di­ Peluru itu akan di-bena oleh satu antara satu sa-tengah hingga dua jam Sharikat Awam yang akan di-tubohkan dan biasa-nya latehan itu berakhir oleh Sharikat Permodalan Kebangsaan dalam pukul 9.00 malam. Oleh kerana dan Sharikat Jaya Raya. Kerajaan sebab2 yang tidak dapat di-elakkan akan mengambil 40% daripada saham latehan itu ada sa-kali berjalan hingga Sharikat itu. Banyak-nya pengeluaran lewat malam. Harns aduan itu ber­ peluru akan bergantong kapada ke­ bangkit oleh sebab kejadian yang sa­ perluan Tentera dan Polis dan juga kali itu. Perlu di-tegaskan bahawa kehendak pasaran jikalau peluru itu latehatt terbang malam ada-lah sa­ dapat di-pasarkan. Tidak-lah dapat di­ bahagian daripada latehan asas yang nyatakan sekarang ini berapa banyak 2809 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2810 keperluan Tentera dan Polis itu, dan khidmat di-Malaysia Timor sekarang juga berapa banyak kehendak pasaran. bagi yang berpangkat Kapten (Captain) Berkenaan dengan ahli2 Lembaga Pe· ka-bawah. ngarah kedua2 Sharikat itu, Ahli Yang Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Kadar elaun Berhormat di-minta memereksa-nya di· khas yang di-bayar kapada anggota2 Pejabat Pendaftaran Sharikat. Angkatan Tentera untok perkhidmatan di-Sabah atau Sarawak bagi sa-hari Angkatan Tentera Malaysia ada-lah saperti berikut: 165. Tuan C. V. Devan Nair asks the (a) Kapten dan atas $10.00 Minister of Defence to provide a full list of the officers of the Malaysian (b) Leftenan Muda dan armed services, according to the ranks, Leftenan 8.00 viz. General, Lieutenant General, (c) Pegawai Waran Kelas I Major-General, Brigadiers, Colonels, dan II ... 7.00 etc., and also according to the scale of (d) Setaf Sarjan dan Sarjan 6.00 seniority in each rank. (e) Kopera} 5.00 Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Kementerian (j) Las Kopera} dan Perebet 4.00 Pertahanan memang ada mengeluar­ kan tiap2 tahun, satu senarai Angkatan Warga2 Negara Asing Dalam Angkatan Tentera Malaysia dalam mana ada Tentera butir2 yang penoh mengenai Pe.gawai2 168. Tengko Zaid bin Tengku Ahmad Angkatan Tentera, tetapi senarai ini bertanya kapada Menteri Pertahanan: di-anggap sulit dan tidak di-fikirkan (a) berapa bilangan warga2 negara patut di-siarkan untok pengtahuan asing yang sedang berkhidmat 'am. dalam Angkatan Tentera seka­ rang, dan berapa orang-kah Perkhidmatan Pembatan yang Berasingan daripada mereka yang sedang bagi Pasokan2 BersenJata bertugas di-Kementerian Per­ 166. Dr Tan Chee Khoon asks the tahanan dengan memberikan Minister of Defence to state if he is senarai nama2 mereka, pangkat2, aware that in view of the expansion negeri2 asal mereka dan tarikh2 of our defence forces it is necessary to tamat kontrek2 mereka masing2; establish a separate medical service dan for the armed forces with its own (b) ada-kah Kerajaan berchadang personnel, hospital etc., and if so, hendak menyambong sa-mula when he proposes to start such a kontrek mereka, dan jika ya, medical service so that the young mengapa. doctors can make a career for them­ selves in the armed forces. Ton Haji Abdul Razak: (a) Bilangan warga2 negara asing Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Sa-benar­ yang sedang berkhidmat dalam nya satu Pasokan Perubatan dan Angkatan Tentera sekarang· ia­ Pergigian Angkatan Tentera yang lah sa-ramai 665 orang. Daripada mempunyai pegawai2 dan anggota2 bilangan ini sa-ramai 94 orang perubatan dan pergigian-nya sendiri bertugas di-Kementerian Per­ sudah pun di-tubohkan. Sa-lain dari tahanan. Butir2 lanjut mengenai itu sa-buah hospital Angkatan Tentera mereka tidak di-fikirkan perlu sudah juga di-tubohkan di-Kinrara di-beri tetapi jika sekira-nya dan ini akan di-perbesarkan sa-chara Ahli Yang Berhormat berkehen· beransor2. dakkan keterangan2 itu bagi tujuan munasabah beliau boleh­ Elaun Harian lah datang ka-Kementerian Per­ 167. Tengko Zaid bin Tengko Ahmad tahanan berunding mengenai­ bertanya kapada Menteri Pertahanan nya. berapa-kah elaun sa-harian yang di-beri (b) Kerajaan hanya akan menyam• kapada Tentera2 kita yang sedang ber- bong sa-mula perkhidmatan 2811 13 NOVEMBER 1967 2812 mereka jika pegawai2 clan ang• tradisi yang maseh berjalan dalam gota2 tempatan tidak di-perolehi Angkatan Tentera Bersenjata kita, ter­ untok memegang jawatan yang utama-nya di-Mes2 Ashkar Melayu berkenaan. di-Raja, saperti mengadakan parti2 di­ mana minuman keras menjadi sharat Askar Melayu di-Raja wajib dan yang nyata menjadi suatu 2 169. Tengku Zaid bin Tengku Ahmad bebanan dalam kehidupan •pegawai bertanya kapada Menteri Pertahanan tentera kita, lebeh2 lagi kerana ia ber­ ada-kah beliau sedar clan dapat-kah lawanan dengan ajaran Islam yang beliau mengesahkan kenyataan yang menjadi Ugama Rasmi negeri kita, dan di-buat oleh Perdana Menteri bahawa jika sedar, apa-kah tindakan yang akan Pasokan Askar Melayu Di-Raja ter­ di-ambil untok menghapuskan-nya. buka bukan sahaja kapada orang2 Melayu tetapi juga kapada semua Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Mengadakan jamuan clan minuman keras di-dalam Bumiputera, dan jika sedar ada-kah Mes tentera tidak dan belum pernah Kerajaan berchadang memberikan 2 suatu nama yang lain kapada Pasokan di-anggap sa-bagai adat oleh mana Askar Melayu Di-Raja; jik:a ya, apa­ Pasokan Rejimen atau Kor atau kah nama yang di-chadangkan. Chawangan2 Angkatan Tentera. Walau bagaimana pun Mes2 Angkatan Tentera Tun Haji Abdul Razak: Di-sahkan ada menyediakan berbagai jenis minu­ bahawa Pasokan Askar Melayu Di­ man keras kapada sa-siapa yang Raja terbuka kapada semua bumi­ berkehendakkan-nya. Tetapi dengan putera saperti yang di-nyatakan oleh berkurangan anggota tentera pinjaman, Perdana Menteri. Nama pasokan itu Mes2 telah bertambah banyak meng­ akan tetap tinggal Askar Melayu Di­ gunakan minuman rengan daripada Raja. minuman keras. Di-dalam majlis jamuan rasmi pula pada masa sekarang Mes menggunakan ayer sejok sahaja Traclisi Dalam Angkatan Tentera Bersenjata bila membuat toast kapada D.Y.M.M. 170. Tengku Zaid bin Tengku Ahmad Raja2 Negeri. Ada-lab di-tegaskan ba­ bertanya kapada Menteri Pertahanan hawa minuman keras tidak-lah sa-kali2 ada-kah Kerajaan sedar bahawa banyak di-paksa di-dalam Mes.